BENNY BLANCO, DAVE BURD & KRISTIN BATALUCCO: Friends Keep Secrets… Or Do They? (Friendship, Weddings, Love)

6:41Kristin Batalucco:Yeah.

6:42Dave Burd:And that was his first intro?

6:43Benny Blanco:Like it was, yeah. I mean, he sat down next to me and said, what are those? And I liked that he was like, I'm just making small talk. I feel like it was like the intro into his personality.

6:52Kristin Batalucco:And you were trying. That was, oh yeah. Were you trying? Oh yeah. Instantly I saw her and I was like, oh my God, Vanessa, good call.

6:57Benny Blanco:Well, no, you said you didn't like it because I was wearing glasses.

6:59Kristin Batalucco:I said it wasn't love at first sight. I was going to ask, was it an instant connection for both of you? Because she was wearing these big glasses. So I couldn't see her face. I've never seen you in blue. Yeah, she doesn't often wear glasses.

7:08Benny Blanco:I was going through a lot. And I was wearing the same clothes for like two weeks straight. And this was my first venture out.

7:14Jay Shetty:Yeah. Not shades.

7:16Benny Blanco:No, they were like, because it was, I think I drove there. Yeah, you drove me home. Yeah.

7:20Kristin Batalucco:Because she was, she never lives in Venice or lived in Venice. And I was living in Venice. And she happened to be staying in an Airbnb for that week in Venice. So it only made sense for him to be like, can I get a ride home? So then I had like an extra 40 minute ride where we just talked.

7:33Benny Blanco:No, he told me a story that lasted 40 minutes.

7:36Kristin Batalucco:Really? What was the story?

7:38Benny Blanco:I thought he's so sweet and he's so himself. And I was like, I was really happy to, I felt like you had such an ease to you. That was rare. Like you were really willing to be like vulnerable. But I also was like, the story's very long.

7:51Kristin Batalucco:The story was about me pooping my pants. And you chose that. It's my funniest, best story.

7:56Benny Blanco:But it was like him talking the entire time. He practiced it before.

7:59Kristin Batalucco:It's like a 15-minute story. Rehears. And I was like, yeah, I've said it so many times. And then ironically, I believe that you guys probably met for the first time at a bowling alley. Because remember right before, remember for my TV show premiere season one, I had all my friends come in from out of town and we all met at the bowling alley the one time and Kristen was there and I was like, don't make it that, like, don't say anything that I don't want you to say. Remember that?

8:24Dave Burd:Maybe. I remember too. I remember two times specifically. I remember once, like in the very beginning of their relationship, I remember once after your actual premiere and we like all walked up to my house. I remember that time. And I remember like in that time being like, this girl's really cool. I was like, like nothing, not thinking like -

8:46Jay Shetty:That was your first impression when he's like,

8:48Dave Burd:meet my girlfriend. No, no, no, no. It was not his girlfriend. It was a girl he was like - I wasn't? No, not Ben.

8:53Benny Blanco:In my mind, I was his girlfriend. In your mind, it was official. And then. Now you're fine.

8:57Dave Burd:This is the first time you're fighting out about it. And then the turning point really in their relationship, I think, was that night at like our birthday party. That was like, that was, I remember it so clearly. I do.

9:12Jay Shetty:Is that what it was for you, Kristen? You remember it differently.

9:15Kristin Batalucco:It's a bad memory.

9:16Benny Blanco:It wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't the best. You weren't the, you weren't like exhibiting the best behavior.

9:23Kristin Batalucco:No, I was lashing out. Do you want to hear what happened, Jay? Please. I do want to hear what happened. Thank you. We met in like January 31st. We had our birthday party like six weeks later. We have joint birthday parties every year. And look, what I'm about to say is pathetic, but they really were like the Super Bowl of like being a single man. Like I never would even have a birthday. I never would even throw myself a birthday party if it weren't for Benny. So now all of a sudden every year I'm having like the most upscale birthday parties planned by him completely where all these people and women come and they know it's like my party and like so there's just this built an icebreaker where like people want to come up to me and talk to me and i just had this feeling that we were gonna start dating and i you know if you know me you know that i have trouble like wrapping my head around uh not necessarily commitment but just like i'm a turnover every stone kind of guy and everything i do.

10:22Benny Blanco:And it really - The stone was here. There was nothing else to turn over.

10:24Kristin Batalucco:Now, as I continue to tell the story, I want you to know that I'm ashamed of my behavior. This is not something that I'm proud of. But I think I just knew that we were going to end up dating. But it was too early to be, like, I didn't have to commit yet, to be quite honest, which is a really misogynistic thing to say. And I knew that I didn't have to commit. And I also knew my days were numbered of having romantic freedom because I felt like I was about to be totally in a committed relationship. And I think, I don't know, I just kind of like overreacted. And for whatever reason, I went into the night being like, I'm not committed to Kristen tonight.

10:58Kristin Batalucco:We're not, I'm not necessarily going home with Kristen tonight. I'm going to do my own thing.

11:01Benny Blanco:But can I, because I didn't do, you're making it seem like I went in there being like, we have to be, we're married. No, she didn't do anything.

11:07Dave Burd:I'd like to hear Kristen.

11:08Benny Blanco:I went in there with like, I think there was like seven of girlfriends of mine and I played it so, like, I don't like to play it cool. It's very hard for me to play it cool. I'm glad that Benny thought I was cool when he first met me, but that's not me. And so I was like, OK, well, this is fun. I like a party. I'm just going to be like free and not expect anything from him. So I didn't all night. And then as the night came to an end, it was kind of like, well, we all know the expectation that we're going to like hang out if we haven't hung out yet. And he just had such a like, you had such a, I knew exactly what he was doing.

11:41Benny Blanco:Like I could sense what he was doing. And then I think I was like, well, this is lame. And then it got into a little bit of a like, I would say at the end.

11:50Dave Burd:A flirt battle. I'd like to interject here. A flirt. I'd like to interject.

11:55Kristin Batalucco:She started talking to other guys in front of her. Because he was talking to other girls. I'd like to interject at this moment.

11:59Dave Burd:There was a flirt battle going on back and forth, and it was like so strange. It was like, yeah, it was like so strange and childish in the moment.

12:11Jay Shetty:It's like a scene out of a movie. Yeah.

12:12Dave Burd:And we were in such a small area, because now it was like the after party. It was like 50 people total. And I remember going to the bathroom. There was like a communal bathroom you go into. And I was like with Dave and we were drunk. And he was just like.

12:32Benny Blanco:What did he say?

12:33Dave Burd:He was talking about how this was like one of the best nights of his life. And he was like. Is this the first time you're hearing this story? Well, sometimes I forget the details.

12:41Benny Blanco:And then. It was a sad time.

12:43Dave Burd:Basically. But not really. He was. It wasn't that sad.

12:45Kristin Batalucco:It wasn't.

12:47Dave Burd:In the moment, she was talking about like leaving and like before we went into the bathroom and she was like visibly upset. She was about to leave.

12:55Kristin Batalucco:She might have even have just just walked out. Yeah, she did.

12:58Dave Burd:And I was like, OK, there was like maybe you didn't run after. I don't remember if there was tears or anything. There were tears.

13:05Benny Blanco:No one saw them. So that's the tidbit that I'm providing.

13:08Dave Burd:So she walks out and I remember talking to Dave and I was like, Dave, I was like, what are you doing? I was like, she's so cool. she's beautiful and i was and and yeah it was like his sentiment was kind of like the what he was saying where he's like what if there's more like i'm so like he was like i'm about this

13:27Kristin Batalucco:is all what if there's more no no that was everything he just said was the subtext but really all you said i remember specifically you were like i don't know you were like i kind of like battle luca yeah that's it well and then that's all he had and then and then at the end

13:42Dave Burd:And I was like, I don't know, Chuck. I really, I like Badaluka. And then I called her. And then he called her. She was one foot in the car.

13:53Kristin Batalucco:Yeah. It was like out of a movie. And then we never split up for...

13:57Jay Shetty:What was it for you that went, this is it, no more stones to be turned over?

14:04Kristin Batalucco:Like, I'm not the kind of guy that did what I said I just did at the thing. So I just felt a little bit bad about, I'm just not that guy. And it's like, what am I looking for someone else when I have such a great person who wants to hang out with me? Now, at that point, I don't think either one of us necessarily knew we were going to get married. I don't think you knew we were going to get married six weeks in.

14:22Benny Blanco:Remember, I think the first thing I said, like, on our second date, I was like, is this a dead end?

14:26Kristin Batalucco:Well, yeah.

14:27Benny Blanco:So I was angling for marriage.

14:30Kristin Batalucco:So our second date, she said, is this a dead end? This is a second date. If us not getting married is a dead end, it's totally possible that this is a dead end. But if you're saying it's a dead end, if we aren't actually married, I can't answer that question. Because it's a second date.

14:44Jay Shetty:But Kristen, from your side, like you're angling for marriage on the second date. Like you're really clear about what you want. A, what's making it clear that this is the guy you want to be with? And B, what's making you confident to be so clear about what you want? Because I think so many people who listen to the show, I know they actually feel quite scared on their second date to actually be honest about what they're looking for.

15:05Benny Blanco:Well, I went into it being like I was 30 and I'd come out of a long relationship. And I felt like I had this whole narrative in my head, which I think the narrative is true, that it's like, why should women have to kind of play like this game of let them chase you? Or like, I feel like so often, even with my friends, like even with Dave, they'd be like, don't be too aggressive. Like, don't, because I very much always just said what I wanted, which was like, I like taking out with you. Let's hang out again. And I felt like I didn't want to waste time like letting him drive the relationship so i just thought it's better off that i figure out if we're a bad fit than like let it go too long also i'm only getting older and

15:46Kristin Batalucco:it is remarkable how infrequent i went on a lot of dates i dated a lot of people over a 10 year not really any seriously but i went on a lot of dates and it's very rare that i was held accountable and like you know where i feel like oftentimes there are games that are played that that are totally predisposed to advantage the man and i was very much down to lean into that because

16:12Benny Blanco:it advantaged me i was ready to debate like i was i was like waiting for him to be up for the challenge yeah like here are all the reasons why it like why i'm not ready or whatever and then i kind of always came into the situation like we were always able to talk about it like you would be overwhelmed with like your work and you thought that because if you're dating somebody that means

16:31Dave Burd:that you can't work and have like a career yeah so i was always up for the debate do you want to chime in benny i just think i think no i was thinking about it because it's like i think we're actually in a time where like i think it's sexy when a woman does that like when like when selena was doing that to me like she was just like her like very much we would talk about it yeah i'd

16:54Benny Blanco:I'd be like, you have to go for these. You have to go after them.

16:57Dave Burd:Yeah. And it made me like, it made me be like, whoa. Like, it was like, cool. It's like, cool. I was like, oh my God. Yeah, I want like, because, you know, Dave is saying like, you know, sometimes when you're dating someone, they might not want to say something to rock the boat. And like, I love when Selena would turn over. It'd be three in the morning and we were dating for like three weeks. And she'd be like, well, what are we? And I was like, what? And then she was like, well, when I go to New York this weekend, what am I going to tell people we are? And I was like, it like, she like caught me so off guard.

17:26Dave Burd:It's cool to have that dynamic where like both person, both people are like on that same level. And I think I do see it like, I feel like I do because a lot of my friends are like that where I see women starting to do that a lot more now. And I think it's, I think it's cool. Like, I think it shows like such a confidence. Like, you know, some people look at it like some of my friends look at it like, oh, like, that's so neat. that's so I'm like that's a person telling you exactly what they want like I don't want to play

17:56Benny Blanco:these games like and when you're when it's okay to be needy like I think it's okay to just exist

18:00Dave Burd:exactly how you are and Selena will say that in the morning she'll say like she'll be like today's a needy day yeah and she'll be and and it what when you are with someone who can because it's so hard when you're trying to play a guessing game like when you're trying to talk with your partner who doesn't express themselves it's so difficult to meet them in the right place and And then they're like harboring all this resentment. But yeah, like Selena will wake up in the morning and she'll say, okay, today's like a needy day. I need you to be like extra nice to me, extra gentle. And then you are set up for success because you know what to do.

18:33Benny Blanco:I should say on behalf of Dave, like I did trust my instincts, which was that I could tell that Dave, like I knew who he was as a person. I knew it was just his anxieties that were kind of like overriding this entire situation. It wasn't like I was like totally shooting in the dark.

18:49Kristin Batalucco:Totally. when I look back on it, like, it is crazy to me that now that I know her and everything that I wasn't after the first day, week, whatever, being like, oh my God, that's the person I'm gonna, like, to me, it's so obvious, like, that she is my soulmate. But it was good that you were that way. And the only reason I wasn't, but truly, the only reason I didn't see it was because of my own anxieties wouldn't even allow me to see it because as soon as we started spending more time together, I was like, she's the funniest, most beautiful, perfect, I couldn't even believe that I was, it was a debate.

19:15Benny Blanco:And what I said to myself, I said, I always I feel like I was in a lot of relationships where I didn't always feel like I was the one that like chased or I had like all of the agency. And I would after my last relationship before Dave, I was like, I want to chase the person I marry and I want to be the one that's like choosing. Because so often you kind of I don't know, I felt like so so many of my past relationships were more like, you know, like you're being pursued. Yeah, or like it's just easier to stay, whatever, than go. So with Dave, well, before Dave, I was like, I want to like chase my husband.

19:50Benny Blanco:Like I want to be like, I really know that I want this, not like this is easy.

19:54Dave Burd:But I feel like it set them up for such success because when I look at them, there couldn't be more even in a relationship. And like I feel like that's when a relationship wins. Like no person has the upper hand in their relationship. There's no like, there's like funny like banter back and forth. and I love that, but it's like they truly like watching both of them, they truly want each other to win. And then that's when I feel like that's when the relationship works. I've been in relationships where the person is secretly like competitive. Yeah, they're like competitive. Or I've been in relationships where something good happens to me and I'm keeping it from the person because I'm scared.

20:33Dave Burd:Or like I had a time where like I like won some big award and I went into a closet to answer the call and be excited because I was too scared. And like, that's like the worst type of relationship to be in. Like, I want to be in a relationship where like my partner is like, cares more about like, they, they like feel like they care more about you than their own thing. And you feel that way too. And you guys are just like the ultimate cheerleader for each other.

20:58Jay Shetty:Well, you guys, I mean, what's amazing though, is that you guys are living the dream because you guys are best friends and then your wife and your best friend are really great friends. and that's so special and the fact that you guys used to do your birthdays together the fact that you also got married in the same year same month and she's so close with Selena too

21:18Dave Burd:it's perfect I'm so happy you know when one of your friends dates someone that you're like ugh and you never it's crazy what would you have done oh my god I've been that guy I've dated someone where my friend I've dated multiple people where I mean one time I broke up with the person I was with and my friends wanted to throw me a party. And I said, well, why didn't anyone tell me when I was in it? And they said, well, what are we supposed to tell you? They said, we made gestures. Dave, have you ever made gestures to Benny in that way?

21:56Kristin Batalucco:No, I wouldn't.

21:57Dave Burd:He has, slightly, in his own way, not as blunt as someone. I keep it real.

22:01Kristin Batalucco:I don't care who you are. If anyone's behaved, I just like to speak about the facts at hand. So I always -

22:06Dave Burd:He's a fact, basically.

22:06Kristin Batalucco:I'm a helping hand with anyone who wants to analyze the facts at hand. But, you know, love is a particular thing that sometimes transcends fact. So pretty good, right, Jay? That's beautiful. Yeah, that's beautiful.

22:18Jay Shetty:You've, like, found something there. I was like, wow. That is beautiful. I get what you're saying. It's like when you know someone, you have a friend, and they're, like, really into this person. Yeah. You're kind of like, well, maybe there's a part of that I don't want to mess up because they see something I don't see.

22:31Kristin Batalucco:Yeah, it's just not your place necessarily to be like, you know, I know you love this person, but just so you know, yeah you shouldn't yeah i don't know what what was it like though going from those parties to

22:42Jay Shetty:actually get married a month apart like to be at each other's wedding level partying high level

22:47Benny Blanco:parties no stressful we were so tired i feel like we were all really tired i was really tired i liked

22:52Kristin Batalucco:it i mean i really enjoyed it to me i was like our wedding was the best night of our lives and it was so great and i just remember being so happy that i had his wedding yeah i was like and the fun isn't done. And I remember telling, I said to her, I said, we should really try to have as much fun as possible because nights don't always have this upside potential of how fun a night can be the way and like we just had the most, like very rarely do you go into a night where it has the potential to be the most fun night of your life. And our wedding, of course, had that potential. It felt so good, but it actually was like, you know, I would have called a fact a fact if it was in any way shorter than I would have, especially because you're paying all this goddamn money, but it It really was.

23:32Kristin Batalucco:Yeah, it was the best night.

23:32Benny Blanco:It was so perfect.

23:34Kristin Batalucco:And then I just remember being so excited for his, and his was perfect.

23:36Benny Blanco:And we had the bachelorette in between.

23:38Jay Shetty:Oh, go ahead.

23:39Benny Blanco:No, we had, like, we had, it was like, we kept saying that we're, like, kicking off. Like, it was our wedding, and then we had, in between our wedding and their wedding, we each separately went on, like, you know, I went to, like, Selena's, and Dave went to Benny's. And then we had the wedding. So it was, like, a fun two months.

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24:40Jay Shetty:Kristen, what was your favorite thing about Benny and Selena's wedding?

24:44Benny Blanco:Probably the vows. It's so, like, watching your close friends get married and, like, hearing, what?

24:50Kristin Batalucco:No, no, I was thinking. Remembering how his his face moved when he would cry.

24:54Benny Blanco:I mean, I couldn't see anything because I was behind a pole, but I heard the vows.

24:57Jay Shetty:You didn't get like preferred seating or anything?

25:00Benny Blanco:I did get the front row seat, but I didn't know if people were going to sit between me and Benny's family. So I like sat all the way to the side.

25:07Kristin Batalucco:She just had, she had, she had an architectural issue blocking her.

25:11Benny Blanco:But that was the best part.

25:12Kristin Batalucco:Tell us about the vows.

25:13Benny Blanco:Their vows were so good. And I think, well, and Dave officiated, which I also obviously enjoyed. I just loved hearing, it's like, it was nice to kind of hear them be serious like you're not it's so rare that you're gonna like hear your friends you know say their love is like what they're doing in your vows you know

25:33Kristin Batalucco:especially okay so my perspective by the way i couldn't have a better view like they're like i'm like right there and they're right here yeah and so because you're a fish yeah yeah so have you done one before no well i've actually never even given a best man speech so like the whole thing And then it's also such a tricky, because I'm almost giving a best man speech, but it's also right there at the altar. So you can't even do certain. It's a lot of pressure, those things. It was a lot of pressure, but I really felt born for that moment. And it was really, look, Selena, when the curtain went away and it was her, and she started, she literally, I'm loathe to say that she looked like a princess, but she just looked like a fairy tale-like.

26:14Benny Blanco:the sun it was like the most amazing the sun like was setting setting behind her and they had like these beautiful tents so when she this is what i did see a little bit of when she was like walking

26:25Kristin Batalucco:it was like it was like majestic yeah and like you know she pulls out this like i don't even this handwritten this hand this book of scriptures or that is like her vows that were like written by hand that she like lost five days earlier that benny had she like wrote her vows for like a year and then she lost them like right before the wedding and then benny found there's like pulled it double point yeah you found it on the day and she told me a few days before but like her vows are just like you know and and then benny like you know uh obviously benny has a high level of emotional capacity and sensitivity but he's definitely a joker and to see him just break like and become just a shell of a man like his face like no puddle like like when selena when the curtain got revealed and his face was like

27:17Dave Burd:because i was trying not to okay so when we did the first look i was like oh oh that this is easy i'm not even crying but when she came out to the music my face i was like i'm not ready to cry this early. So I was like, I was like, I can't even do it. I was like, I'd recently watched the video back and it's insane.

27:41Kristin Batalucco:It's weird to see someone's face so often and then realize you've never seen their face do a certain thing as a weird feeling to feel. That's amazing. Yeah.

27:48Jay Shetty:That's amazing.

27:49Dave Burd:I'm never nervous. And I was before it happened, I all of a sudden got so nervous and like 10 times I was like, should I have him print mine out bigger? Should I do it small? And like, I asked him all these questions and then he made me walk out to like everyone's seated thinking the thing's about to start and he made me walk out

28:08Kristin Batalucco:alone like down the aisle essentially and like double check and he had multiple printouts of the thing already sitting up there i remember being so nervous and then for some reason the

28:20Dave Burd:second i turned into the room everything melted away and it was like i wasn't nervous at all anymore. And it was, it was so cool to see theirs was like training. Yeah. Theirs was like training and theirs was, I really can't stress this. It was the best wedding I'd ever been to in my life. I think also it's because it's like the people like I care about. I've never, like I cried so much at their wedding during their vows. I was bawling. And you think about your friends, but then like to see them do this thing that's so like final, it was so beautiful. And they're both so well-spoken and funny, but also serious.

29:04Dave Burd:And like, yeah, I don't usually see Dave serious. I never see Kristen's here. Like we're all those people who kind of like make, like, I'll probably be laughing at like my friend's funeral. Like, cause I like can't like, it's, it's, it's, it's like a coping mechanism. And to watch them do that was so fun and everything was perfect. And their wedding was one of the best weekends of my life. And then I was like, oh my God, I have my own to look forward to. And I had that feeling where I was so scared that mine wasn't gonna live up to what it was in my head. And it was so far beyond what, like the only thing I didn't like is cocktail hour.

29:44Dave Burd:Cause I kept having to say hi to everyone. I said, am I gonna be doing this the whole night?

29:48Kristin Batalucco:I tried to get you to do the thing. You didn't want to do it. No, we did do it. We did do it. And she didn't like it. We did this. What was the thing?

29:55Benny Blanco:We took, we should have, we basically went, Dave and I like had to go to the bathroom. So we, before Benny and Selena had seen her.

30:01Kristin Batalucco:Well, first it was our wedding. It was why we even knew about this.

30:03Benny Blanco:Did you do this? Like where they, they take you into the reception before the guests come.

30:08Kristin Batalucco:They pluck you from cocktail hour, five minutes early, take you to where the band doesn't, where dinner is. And they like let you see it all. Yeah. the band's playing just for you and it was like our favorite part of our wedding and then we had

30:21Benny Blanco:to go to the bathroom so we went into benny and selena's before they had seen it and we were like oh my god this is incredible they have to see it so we were like should we pull them away

30:30Kristin Batalucco:and pulling them away was like it was so hard so hard like i thought you know what i felt like they were being bombarded they were and i was just like they're missed they're only gonna the tenting that their thing was the most beautiful tent oh and you never go to see it not empty but I made them do it I was just like I just had this instinct that I knew better and that they didn't know

30:51Dave Burd:what was your wedding like? do I remember this correctly? was yours like some sort of thing like outside near like a Brit? no no no that was just our first shoot that was just our first shoot afterwards

31:02Jay Shetty:this year's our 10 year wedding anniversary I was just gonna say when did you get married? 10 years yeah 10 years

31:06Dave Burd:oh actually I don't care about your wedding I wanna know this this is my real question this is not your podcast I have a question for you. I have a question.

31:16Jay Shetty:I have many more. Go on.

31:17Dave Burd:I got one question. I'll let you ask one question. I have one question.

31:20Jay Shetty:You have one question.

31:22Benny Blanco:He's got to think of the question first. No, no, no, no. No, no.

31:24Dave Burd:It's such a good question. I just want to word it the right way. Okay. You're 10 years in.

31:32Kristin Batalucco:Junie. Bye, Jay. I'm my wife.

31:35Dave Burd:You're 10 years in. What have you learned in this time that you thought you knew when it was 10 years before? And what do you want like the next 10 years to be like? Yeah.

31:48Jay Shetty:Two questions. Good question. Good question.

31:50Dave Burd:Only answer one.

31:50Jay Shetty:It's similar to the way you're even talking about each other. I feel like you think you love your partner the most you could love them on your wedding day. And then you realize you had no idea how much you could love them. Like 10 years on, it's just like, I thought I loved my wife, like the most I could ever love her. And then you actually go through life. You go through challenges. You go through ups and downs. We got married, changed jobs, moved country and moved home all in the same year. And so like we went through so much and I feel like that could either break you or make you closer. And for us, it just brought us closer than the pandemic.

32:25Jay Shetty:We were stuck together every day and it brought us closer. And I think that could have been a, so I feel like when you've been through so much life together, you just have so much proof that you love each other through so many different versions of each other. And I think that's the other thing that I feel like I've been loved with a different person. in 10 years because my wife has been so many different versions of herself. She'll probably say I've been pretty much the same, but I feel like she has changed so many times in beautiful ways. And so you're learning to fall in love again. So this idea of, oh, I know your every move and I know everything about you.

32:59Jay Shetty:It's like, I actually don't. And I feel like I'm constantly on my toes. And because we end up spending a bit of time away from each other every year because of work, I feel like we're still dating, which is really fun, actually. I love the fact that we don't see each other all the time.

33:13Benny Blanco:That's important.

33:14Jay Shetty:Because then there's a sense of, like, I can't wait to get back to you. We see each other all day. Not too much for me, Jay. Never too much for me. I was trying to convince my wife to do a reality show with me because I was like, I just want to be with you all day long. That would be my dream. She's like, we're never doing a reality TV show. I'd watch it. Yeah, thank you. I don't know who else would because there wouldn't be much drama. A lot of people. We'd have to create some drama. You'd have to find ways. I'd have to invite drama. We can give you some ideas. But did you guys ever think, we're here to talk about Friends Keep Secrets, the show, not a podcast, not a live stream.

33:52Jay Shetty:Did you ever believe that you guys would be doing a show together?

33:56Benny Blanco:I think it makes sense.

33:57Kristin Batalucco:Ever, yes. Because we, I don't think we saw, I didn't necessarily see it coming, but it really kind of was this perfect storm of things happening at the right time. And like Kristen was very, she was always, even as I was making Dave, in my, always on TikTok and always being like, there's something that's so rewarding about real human behavior. And she was always kind of on the forefront of knowing that consumption patterns are really changing. And that was something that I really respect her opinion about a lot of things. And that was something that was in my head. And separately, me and Benny had kind of just flirted with the idea of a podcast for years, but I never really saw it as a thing that I wanted to do.

34:40Kristin Batalucco:And - What changed?

34:41Benny Blanco:I think one day I was like, but what if like we like rigged our house? And what if you take the same like creativity that the two of you have and you try to change what this is versus trying to like fit the mold of what everything else is? And I feel like that's when you were, and I think Benny like separately had the same idea because we all got on the phone and he was like, yeah, we can literally, like he was like, I was, So I just think it was a perfect storm for you to be like, oh, this is exciting.

35:08Kristin Batalucco:Once I started thinking about the potential to reinvent things and make things different, then I got really excited about it. And then only when we started doing it did I really fall in love with everything because I say this to them all the time. my me even going for it as a comedic presence only happened because i was trying to entertain my friends and be like the funny guy to my friends and that is my when i am the happiest when i'm around my best friends and i'm like seeking the joke and trying to make them laugh and then i went for it i try you know i became a comedian made my show dave and like a show like dave requires so much like hard work i believe it it's a great show and like everything that It seems like it's all so fun and light.

35:52Kristin Batalucco:The amount of brainpower that goes into executing it is so next level that actually making the show Dave can be torturous. Whereas as soon as we started doing this, I've never had more. It's just like I was the inner child, and it was like now having fun with my best friends again. And then even seeing the footage of it and understanding how it all was working, to me, I think, back to Kristen's original thesis, there's nothing more compelling, I think COVID actually caused this because the shows stopped being made and people were just at home and then TikTok was blowing up and we were just seeing over and over again human beings being themselves and being really entertaining and fun to watch.

36:31Kristin Batalucco:And so I think at the end of the day, things are only as good as the characters that are there. And we're just being ourselves. And there really is nothing pure than like having a great time with your best friends. And it's all everything that's happening is so real and organic. And like the amount of hard laughs that are happening with all three of us as we're filming it is I've been talking for a long time. i'm realizing it was making a lot it was resonant i realize how long i've been talking no i like i

37:00Jay Shetty:allow for that space on the show yeah he allows okay i still remember the first call when you called me up i was like i do too i think me and you know me and dave and kristen want to start this show and in my head i was like oh great you know we'll put some microphones down we're going to sit down it'll be another interview show you guys will have great guests and then as this thing's evolved i was just like your guys create a vision the way you're shifting up the industry the way this show is going to change the way people think about what a podcast is, what an interview is, it's amazing. And honestly, it's been such a joy seeing you guys put in the work, put in the hustle.

37:34Jay Shetty:But also, the most important thing is I feel like whenever I've seen you, I got to walk into one of your episodes when I was coming to do a photo shoot. I love that. But then I just got to walk into an episode, which is insane. Yeah. And I'm like, I couldn't believe just how crazy, real, authentic. And people throw those words around. So I don't even like using those words because nowadays everyone's like, oh, it's so authentic. It's so this. It's not even that. It just is what it is. Like it is just three friends. We don't even know what's coming.

38:02Kristin Batalucco:We get in these random conversations and arguments that become so passionate that I feel like anyone watching a group or anyone in their own group of friends is able to relate to, like, it's really just us kind of living and existing. And it's a fly on the wall observation of that.

38:17Jay Shetty:I think what's fascinating about it on a more thoughtful level is one of the things I'm trying to do with the work that we're putting out in the world is trying to make people feel less alone. And I feel like this show makes people feel less alone. She always says there's a loneliness epidemic.

38:32Benny Blanco:Well, because there is. But I felt like I realized, I do think after COVID, like all of our social lives have slowed down or if they haven't, there was like, there was definitely like a period where socializing beyond the anxiety of like COVID kind of create there was like a learning curve to kind of get back into it and putting yourself out there and I really resonate with like TikTok and it's not like I love watching people in like Michigan or like random state you know like home videos essentially of like people hanging out and I feel like one cool thing about us is I mean especially Benny not Dave is cool but like I feel like when we met Benny you were such a good host you always like have us over and like we have so much fun and we meet new people.

39:14Benny Blanco:And I think we now have the opportunity to like bring people into that experience, which is what I like on TikTok.

39:21Dave Burd:I'll tell you something. I was, I was with my friend the other day and we were hanging out and he was, he like just went through a breakup. You know, I don't ever watch myself back. I'm not like a guy that does that. I don't like once it's there, it's there. I like, I'll ask my manager, I'll say, Hey, did I say something stupid? And he'll be like, yeah, this was stupid. And I'll say, okay, take it out. Like, I'm not like a, I don't want to, I can't do that in any, like, I don't want to look at a magazine. I don't want to do any of that. But my friend wasn't feeling great. And I said, let me put on an episode of, of, of our new show.

39:58Dave Burd:And I put it on. And at first he's like staring at it and he's laughing uncontrollably. And he's like, just like following along to everything. and it got to the point where we started having our normal conversation and it's just playing in the background and it's just like it just we were like in it but then we'd go do our own thing and then we'd come back to it and we were like it was so cool to have it's like a constant friend in the corner and it was like whenever there was like a lull in the conversation we would just start watching that's the thing again and it was and it and we were laughing and we would like pause it then talk about like our own stories we were like oh my god that reminds me of and to me i feel like we live in a world where there's constantly so much static and noise of like not great things and i feel like there's a way to put something good into the earth without like pushing like pushing it down people's throats like trying to do like some educational like it's it's like when we did earth like we made earth and it had a really good sentiment behind it but it was talking about like your penis and a baboon's butt like it's like like i think there's a way to do something good for the world and not take yourself so seriously and we talk about real life shit on this podcast.

41:25Dave Burd:It's not a podcast. I was waiting for that, Dave. He's thinking it.

41:30Kristin Batalucco:It's not only.

41:32Dave Burd:Yeah, it's multimedia.

41:34Benny Blanco:He wants to change the name to multimedia.

41:36Kristin Batalucco:Multimedia. No one liked it but me. Scenes of it like 90s. It's cool. It's classic. Vintage. Vintage. No one wants it though, so it's still Friends Keep Secrets.

41:46Jay Shetty:Oh, you wanted to change the name to multimedia.

41:49Benny Blanco:He sent a serious text the other day. That's amazing.

41:52Jay Shetty:I never got that text.

41:52Benny Blanco:I just hadn't made it to you. Yeah. It got shot down.

41:57Kristin Batalucco:It's not the right idea.

41:58Benny Blanco:I don't think Benny replied.

42:00Jay Shetty:No, but that's what I love about what you guys can do. Like you guys are doing something that not a lot of people can do. You guys can have fun, be ridiculous, talk about crazy stuff and have a moral message to wrap it up with, which is insane or not. Yeah. And I think that's the beautiful thing that you're making people feel close. But for you, Dave, like you're working with your wife and your best friend. Yeah. In the same space. Yeah. I feel like you have the hardest job. because that sounds I've been hearing you say that Jay I just wanted to empathize I was like take a moment to acknowledge that you're in the middle like how does working with friends loved ones is hard anyway yeah Chuck how are you yeah Chuck how are you managing it

42:37Kristin Batalucco:look I really had no fear going into it because I just know both of them so well and I've I just feel like I wouldn't become this close with anyone if they if the person couldn't analyze whatever facts at hand that are and talk about them fairly logically whatever so i'm we get in

42:57Jay Shetty:little spats and arguments all the time what's the roles usually who starts the fight who continues

43:03Kristin Batalucco:all three of us are equally annoying to all three like yeah it really varies and all of us do

43:08Dave Burd:different things i love but i love all of them they're so fun but i just i just sorry no go on

43:14Kristin Batalucco:I just know that there's really no argument or moment that could ever be the type of thing that we couldn't logically talk about it and arrive at the facts at hand. So ultimately, I have no fear. I also have a pretty high tolerance for understanding him, understanding her, understanding when to leave things be. And I think all of us kind of do. And we're all so close that, I don't know, for me, it's literally like I work so hard that nothing makes me happier than getting to work so hard and hang out with my best friend and wife while doing it.

43:43Benny Blanco:And I think we all communicate the same way. Like we can kind of get like revved up and get like not aggressive, but passionate.

43:52Kristin Batalucco:We're all aggressive.

43:53Benny Blanco:But we don't take it like I feel like we'll do it. And then like two seconds later, we'll be like we'll be fine. And I think that's like it's unique to kind of find people that communicate the same way that you do in these moments. I mean, we can definitely get on each other's nerves, but it's never like like it's never like taken personal.

44:08Dave Burd:Really? I'm never mad at any of you guys.

44:10Benny Blanco:That's what I'm saying.

44:10Dave Burd:Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you are annoyed. You get annoyed. No, but I'm never, it's like what she's saying. It's like, it's like the second, the conversation. No one's ever mad at anyone. We get revved up together. Like, I don't think I could ever like be like actually really angry at you guys. I don't think that could ever be a thing. We're also, none of us are that type of person. Yeah, I agree. He's only been angry at me one time in his entire life. And the reason was we were coming home from Coachella and he was really tired and he hadn't slept in the type of like situation. but he hadn't had a full night's sleep in a few days and he needs a full night's sleep.

44:47Dave Burd:And he's getting his stuff out of the car and I'm getting my stuff out of the car. And I kind of like, like kicked his knee or something. Intentionally. Yeah, I can't even remember. I think you like, I like was like, like you like pushed me from behind playfully. Yeah, I was like pushing him like as a joke. And he was like,

45:04Kristin Batalucco:no, no, no, no. He pushed me playfully. Oh yeah, you hit your shin. And my shin hit like the car and hurt so much. My shin.

45:15Dave Burd:And he goes, get off of me. And then I laughed at him. He was angry for about 15 seconds.

45:21Jay Shetty:So how do you guys make decisions then?

45:24Kristin Batalucco:Group conversations?

45:26Benny Blanco:There's a vote? No, it gets revved up. It got revved up the other day.

45:30Dave Burd:I like to bring the vote in, but she'll never insert her opinion.

45:33Benny Blanco:I don't want the vote. I want us to talk it out, talk it through. I like the vote.

45:35Dave Burd:He likes the vote. So it's a two out of three like the vote.

45:39Benny Blanco:I definitely think what I've noticed that I do sometimes feel this isn't like a bad thing. I can tell that I'm like a little bit more sensitive than the two of them. I think it's like a guy-girl thing. Maybe not. I don't want to make such an assumption. But I would say that like, I would say that I am the more sensitive one of the three of us. Would you guys not?

45:59Dave Burd:Well, I'm not sensitive. I'm not sensitive about that type of stuff. Like I'm that sensitive. Like I'm crying in a movie, a song. Like, yeah, I'm not sensitive. And I don't think Dave is either. Like if someone is just like, Like, I want someone to tell me also in the studio, like, I don't like the sugarcoat. Like, just if someone's just like, oh, like that, that didn't work. Let's do this. I'm like, oh, great. Like, let's try it again.

46:20Benny Blanco:No, I like that, too. I'm chill.

46:23Dave Burd:No, you're sensitive. Well, you're sensitive. I'm really chill. She's sensitive in a different way that I get. Yeah. Like, me and Dave have been doing this. We've been in the foreground putting ourselves out there for many, many years. This is Kristen's, like, first thing. like everyone's first impression on her is like it's not like she's like back in the day where like it would be like Michael Jackson would perform once and you'd be like man I wonder what he's like as a guy there was like no other media we're seeing like every like nook and cranny like she like she'll like she'll burp or be like sweat yeah and she's so honest and it's so rare that you see it's funny I like her and Selena I see why they're such good friends because it's Like there's so many similarities where like, I feel like sometimes like you and Selena have this thing where you're both like so brutally honest about how you're feeling.

47:18Dave Burd:And it's like, it's so comedic too. It's like funny. It's like hard. I like can't explain it. Yeah. Like you just saying like you're sweating. Like I feel like most like, especially because you guys are like so well put together.

47:31Benny Blanco:I'm nothing like that. No, no. But like Selena will say the same thing.

47:34Dave Burd:She'll be like, I'm sweating and I'm having like an anxiety attack right now. Like, and I love that about you guys. And I do feel like there's also a lot of yous out there. And I think like you're going to inspire people so much because you wear your insecurities on your sleeve in a cool way. And I like it. I love it. I love it.

47:57Benny Blanco:I like that it's cool.

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49:15Jay Shetty:How does it feel for you, Kristen? Like, obviously, this is a big deal. It is the first time you're going to be... This is the first interview you're doing, right? This is the first interview.

49:22Benny Blanco:I almost didn't come. I was going to say that I had the stomach flu. No! I was like thinking of all... I would have been so upset.

49:28Jay Shetty:I would have taken that so personally. And you would have known.

49:30Benny Blanco:Well, I wouldn't have. Well, you shouldn't have.

49:31Dave Burd:We wouldn't have had more room.

49:34Benny Blanco:No, but I knew that. No, I actually like this interview. I'm doing fine. Yeah. There is like a spit bubble that keeps coming through my teeth. Let me see you smile. That's a little bit hard. No one else has seen it.

49:43Dave Burd:Can't see anything. Oh, yeah. Right before we did this, she had a full thing of lip sick across her whole mouth. And I told her right before.

49:51Benny Blanco:Yeah. I got it off.

49:52Jay Shetty:Has an argument ever lasted longer than the recording of one of the episodes?

49:56Benny Blanco:No. No.

49:56Jay Shetty:Is anyone's butt asleep?

49:58Dave Burd:No.

49:58Benny Blanco:No, you've got to reposition yourself.

50:00Dave Burd:Do you want to have a little walk around? No, no. You can if you want. No, I don't want to be. I can chat to these two. No, I can't be the first man to ever.

50:05Benny Blanco:Just reposition your butt.

50:07Dave Burd:Jay said that nobody has ever used the bathroom during an interview ever, except him once. With Kevin Hart, I felt so embarrassed. I was like, Kevin, do you mind if I use the bathroom?

50:20Benny Blanco:And then did you use this one? Yeah, the one back there.

50:22Dave Burd:You know, I always ask people, like, I always wonder, like.

50:25Benny Blanco:Do they use the bathroom?

50:26Dave Burd:No, like when like Adele is performing, like is she ever just like, oh my gosh, I ate something crazy. Like does like, like does anyone have to poop ever?

50:37Jay Shetty:Well, don't the best like find a routine for moments in their life, right? Like that's how athletes play. My stuff is always right before.

50:43Benny Blanco:I have to go to the bathroom. Like I pee when I'm nervous, which is so nice for our podcast because I get up and go to the bathroom like I would say like four times an episode.

50:52Jay Shetty:You also hydrate well though.

50:53Benny Blanco:Not really. Do you have to pee? It's honestly, yeah, I had to as soon as I sat down, but I've already gone. It's just nerves. Like, it's like, to me, it's a nerve-based thing. It's not actually, I don't know.

51:02Kristin Batalucco:Chuck, do you think your pee is nerve-based? It's not pee, but I'm surprised at how often I'll have to poop, like, 30 minutes before a concert. Oh, yeah. Nerves.

51:09Dave Burd:Yeah, I can relate to that. I can relate to that. What is that, nerves?

51:12Benny Blanco:That's all your nerves?

51:13Dave Burd:I have to, like, evacuate before. When I used to, like— I do it before, five minutes before going on stage. Really? When I was younger, when I like first like really in New York, like first got on the dating scene, I used to anytime I was going to have a date with a girl and she was about to come over and we were going to leave, I would like I'd have to poop like two minutes before. It would happen every time until like I got really comfortable with it. And I would be honest. Like I used to use that as one of my like icebreakers or like my other. You had to poop? No, I would just like be like my other icebreaker, I would say, is I would say, I don't usually do this, these, but what's the worst thing you've ever done in your entire life?

52:01Dave Burd:And then we both say the worst thing we ever did in our whole life. And I'd be like, okay, now I feel like I know you. And I also have blackmail on you in case like this doesn't go well. How did you come up with that? Did it work?

52:12Jay Shetty:No. Did it break the ice? I didn't do it with Selena. There you go.

52:16Dave Burd:I feel like you always think like through dating, I was like, oh, like I met my soulmate or like, oh, I met the person I could spend the rest of my life with. But it's so different when you actually meet the person that you are going to spend the rest of your life with. It was such a different feeling. And I like went back and I was like, whoa, those feelings when I was younger. Like it was so different because it just clicks. You know what I'm saying? It clicks in a different way.

52:41Jay Shetty:What's Selena's reaction when she sees you cry at the altar, like on the wedding day? Like what's her reaction to that? Trying to compare it to Radhi's reaction of me crying. I think she cried. And then while it was all going on,

52:56Dave Burd:we were laughing and just like talking to each other. Like, while everything was happening. I've cried in front of her plenty of times. I cry I cry I'm a Pisces I'm a little fish are you a Pisces? yeah

53:11Jay Shetty:dude that makes sense why are you a Pisces? no all my closest male friends are Pisces

53:17Dave Burd:really what are you?

53:18Jay Shetty:I'm a Virgo

53:19Dave Burd:oh that's my mom is Virgo

53:20Benny Blanco:I'm a Virgo but I don't really identify I'm on the cusp

53:23Jay Shetty:I'm pretty cool I'm pretty cool you do have similar yeah I'm very Virgo when's your birthday? 6th September

53:30Kristin Batalucco:have you ever had like a person on here that's an expert at all that type of stuff? astrology yes

53:34Jay Shetty:I had an astrology expert, Chani Nichols, a couple of weeks ago.

53:36Kristin Batalucco:And did that person make you feel like it's actual kind of scientific fact? Because I'm, you know, whenever anyone brings up sign or anything, I want to be like, what the f*** are we talking? Like that stuff's so inconsequential. But then there are so many times where it seems spot on. Did that expert say that it's real? You should have them on. Yeah, we should. Yeah, that would be really cool.

53:58Jay Shetty:I think you'd ask for questions right now. Give us the cliff notes. You know what?

54:02Benny Blanco:Well, you go. The cliff notes is,

54:03Jay Shetty:I'm kind of like you. So I have an understanding of like Eastern astrology, which is very deeply scientific. The number of astrologers that are available are non-existent now. Like it's hard, but it does exist. And I've heard people tell me crazy things. Like they predicted like how many kids they would have and the first name of their partner and all that kind of stuff. And then you have what we have today where you have horoscopes, which of course the daily horoscope you read is like kind of made up yeah and so it's kind of finding that balance her take was there's lots of truth to it it's all based on the planets and how they align there's lots of ways of checking the system and making sure that it's valuable insight but the amount of people that are actually doing that today are very little so it's almost like there's a lot of uh mics not enough real

54:48Kristin Batalucco:mcs maybe i feel like when i moved to la the amount of people that seem to operate off of that having so much consequence. I feel like I'm on an island as the only guy who's like, this isn't real.

55:01Jay Shetty:Yeah. I've just played a weird pattern that all my best male friends are born in March. Yeah. It's just a strange. I was also born in March, Jay. We haven't had enough time yet, but I'm looking forward to it. But seriously, my best friend growing up was 14th of March. My best friend, who's my best man at the wedding, 16th of March. I'm 15th. My closest friend in LA is 18th of March.

55:19Benny Blanco:Wow.

55:19Jay Shetty:Like, it's just, it's crazy. And I'm 8th of March. Same as my sister, who I'm really good friends in. 8th of March? Yeah.

55:25Benny Blanco:Do Pisces and Virgos click?

55:27Dave Burd:Well, I assume so. So many. I know Pisces and Cancers really are. That's Selina's Cancer. Thanks.

55:33Jay Shetty:We got to talk to that person. Well, yeah, maybe you should have them on the show. We should. All right. What I wanted to do is I wanted to play a game that we created for you. So your show is called Friends Keep Secrets. Yeah. We came up with Friends Don't Keep Secrets. Really creative. So it was like, you know, but we played a couples game with Benny. So we thought we'd play a throuples game with you guys. Fun. I love games. I'm going to give you one of these. I love this. We did this. For Benny and Selena. There we go. This is all about Kristen first.

56:01Benny Blanco:Cool.

56:02Jay Shetty:So the way this works is the players will write down their partner's potential answers to questions before comparing answers. So this is all about Kristen. We're both going to guess. We're all going to guess what hopefully Kristen writes down. Okay. And then we're going to see. And then we're going to do each of you. And you write down your answer. We're writing down what we think Kristen is writing down. Correct. Correct. If Kristen could change one thing about Dave, what would it be?

56:23Kristin Batalucco:I always had a fear of playing this type of game. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

56:26Dave Burd:Why? Hold on, hold on.

56:26Kristin Batalucco:Because then I just would feel bad about, like, do I not know anything about the people that I'm so close with? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I am confident.

56:33Benny Blanco:In your answer? I feel like you know this answer. It's also fun.

56:36Jay Shetty:Like, it's not like a therapy test.

56:38Benny Blanco:I literally say it out loud all the time.

56:40Jay Shetty:Mine's two. So the question is, if Kristen could change one thing about Dave, what would it be? Kristen, please reveal your answer. Read it to me.

56:45Benny Blanco:That he likes wine.

56:47Jay Shetty:What? I don't like wine. No.

56:50Benny Blanco:The one thing I would change would be that you like to drink wine. You don't like wine.

56:54Kristin Batalucco:You would change it. I don't think you understand. Hold on.

56:57Jay Shetty:Shouldn't she be? No, if Kristen could change one thing about Dave, what would it be? She would change that you would like wine.

57:01Benny Blanco:That you would enjoy drinking wine.

57:03Jay Shetty:So she would change that I don't like wine.

57:04Kristin Batalucco:Yeah. Correct.

57:05Benny Blanco:Correct.

57:05Kristin Batalucco:So what did you write? I thought this was definitely the answer.

57:08Dave Burd:How I chew and smack my lips when I eat. Oh. Mine was going on dates or being more fun.

57:16Jay Shetty:What? I was amazed.

57:18Benny Blanco:Well, I think that they're all...

57:19Dave Burd:I was certain she was going to put that. I was 100 % sure you were going to say that. I mean, I literally say this all the time.

57:25Benny Blanco:I say, I wish you drank wine.

57:26Kristin Batalucco:I mean, wine is kind of in the same world as that. It was being fine.

57:30Dave Burd:Yeah, yeah, yeah.

57:31Benny Blanco:The reason I don't write this is because... Did you think about that? No, but you're also really good about not getting annoyed when I get annoyed with you about that.

57:37Dave Burd:But were you thinking about mine a little too? Well, I guess you were.

57:40Benny Blanco:I figured yours would be that.

57:42Kristin Batalucco:Yeah.

57:43Benny Blanco:I knew what he was going to write.

57:44Kristin Batalucco:Right. My mom has been complaining about the way that I smack my lips my whole life.

57:48Benny Blanco:Well, you have a little bit of a problem.

57:50Kristin Batalucco:Yeah.

57:50Dave Burd:Okay, what's our next? All right, okay.

57:52Jay Shetty:So the next one is, what's something Benny and Kristen always side with each other on that drives Dave crazy?

57:59Benny Blanco:Actually, I'll just keep mine. There's two. There's two that I actually know.

58:02Dave Burd:Okay, she's going crazy.

58:03Jay Shetty:All right, so the question was, what's something Benny and Kristen always side with each other on that drives Dave crazy? Kristen, please reveal your answer.

58:10Benny Blanco:Okay, I have two. The second one that I'm about to say I know he'll get mad about.

58:14Jay Shetty:So you don't have to say it then. Okay.

58:16Benny Blanco:Well, I like to stir the pot. You can say both of them. Okay, one, working less.

58:20Jay Shetty:Oh, that was wrong.

58:21Benny Blanco:Two, I would say putting music on.

58:25Dave Burd:No.

58:26Kristin Batalucco:Oh. No, Benny's on my side.

58:28Dave Burd:Yeah, I'm on Dave's side. Well, I'm something more. No, you're on my side. Coming off nicer while texting. Oh, yeah.

58:34Benny Blanco:That's what I thought was going to be. I forgot about that.

58:37Kristin Batalucco:I wrote that I can be too hands-on. Right. No, I love that you're not.

58:41Dave Burd:We don't care about that. Wait, look, this is nice. This is good feedback.

58:44Benny Blanco:We love your hands-on.

58:46Dave Burd:I thought one of you guys was going to say mine

58:49Benny Blanco:are we bad at this game? no

58:50Dave Burd:this is good

58:51Jay Shetty:it's a hard game it's meant to be hard it's meant to be challenging

58:54Benny Blanco:we're learning new things about each other that we did now

58:57Kristin Batalucco:the texting was a good guess

58:58Jay Shetty:and the things that you think that people don't like you actually they love about you yeah that is nice Jay we love you Mochi I love you guys alright when was the last time Kristen admitted that she was wrong?

59:13Benny Blanco:what makes you think I'm ever wrong?

59:15Dave Burd:And then she, there's too much wavering to know because she'll go up and down about the right and wrong thing.

59:22Benny Blanco:Depends on what mood I'm in. I would say, I would say, I think.

59:27Dave Burd:I can't remember.

59:29Benny Blanco:I'm just going to have a little.

59:30Jay Shetty:Do you know something? The last. You can give a time frame. Yeah, I'm doing that. Yeah, good. Yeah, yeah. Like last month, 10 years ago.

59:37Benny Blanco:They're going to.

59:38Jay Shetty:12 years ago, 12 months ago.

59:40Benny Blanco:I mean, I don't even know if I'm actually wrong.

59:43Jay Shetty:You could write that down if you want, Griffith.

59:45Benny Blanco:I'm trying to think. I mean, I'm so infrequently wrong.

59:52Jay Shetty:I love it. I love it.

59:54Benny Blanco:It's hard to catch me.

59:56Jay Shetty:I like the thinking going on. This is good. I think she's wrong. When was the last time she goes, Benny, you know what? I'm wrong. I admit it.

1:00:02Benny Blanco:Well, there was a time that we filmed something. I just don't remember when it was.

1:00:07Dave Burd:Only if she's caught in the act on the, like.

1:00:11Kristin Batalucco:Only if I see the footage. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. that is I know yeah it's just a specific argument what's the argument? there's a drunk

1:00:19Dave Burd:yeah what was I

1:00:22Benny Blanco:oh I don't know if I'm wrong I have to see the footage

1:00:24Dave Burd:we saw the footage basically no you don't even need to it doesn't matter

1:00:28Benny Blanco:I'm free it doesn't

1:00:30Dave Burd:I won't get into the details it's too much nuance

1:00:32Kristin Batalucco:basically they got in an argument that Kristen was claiming that Benny kind of

1:00:38Dave Burd:said something

1:00:39Kristin Batalucco:brought something up to get under her skin right And Benny was like, you're the one who brought this thing up in the first place. And she was like, no, I wasn't. And then we went into the control room and we said, play us back how we even got here. And then we watched the footage as we're filming the thing. And Kristen did actually bring it up. She brought it up. You'll see what we're talking about. Yeah, he was so happy.

1:01:03Benny Blanco:I brought it up. But, you know, tension's her hive. I get her side as well.

1:01:08Jay Shetty:I get her side as well. Okay, next one. We did good. All right, all right. We're going to switch to Dave now. So it's all about Dave. Bread and butter. Who does Dave trust most for honest feedback? Not just in the group, in the world. Oh.

1:01:20Kristin Batalucco:I know exactly what you're doing. What? I think I know what is going through your brain. Don't let Kristen see.

1:01:27Benny Blanco:Oh, yeah.

1:01:28Kristin Batalucco:But to me, the answer is actually pretty simple. The answer is answers.

1:01:33Jay Shetty:All right. So the question was, who does Dave trust most for honest feedback? Dave, please reveal.

1:01:38Kristin Batalucco:Benny and Kristen is the answer to that question. Now, I know they both probably think Jack and Henry.

1:01:43Benny Blanco:No. What?

1:01:44Kristin Batalucco:Oh.

1:01:45Dave Burd:What did you write? I said me and Kristen, and then I said friends from home, but I was thinking of the joiner situation, but it was just that he was right. Yeah.

1:01:56Kristin Batalucco:Both of them, like, look, Benny from music, no song would ever come out without having him hear it and analyze it, critique it, say it's worthy, point out whatever flaws could exist. christened the exact same thing for like tv and film like any script or thing like i i really trust both of their instincts what did you write i wrote his mom or me or jeff schaefer or benny my mom told me not to be a rapper she said okay so but i think yeah okay you're on the list you

1:02:29Jay Shetty:just those two no question i love that for sure all right so we got some of it right both of you are not narcissists you didn't write yourselves right no i wrote myself oh you did oh yeah Yes, that is she. Okay, there you go. Yes, that is she. Okay, that's great.

1:02:40Dave Burd:It's not being an artist. I just knew the answer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, what's our next?

1:02:44Jay Shetty:All right, so if you called Dave because you ran someone over, would he help you bury the body? Would he call the cops? Or would he tell you to call the cops? Those are only three options. Bury the body? Call the cops.

1:02:58Dave Burd:Whose fault is it?

1:02:59Jay Shetty:It's Dave's fault.

1:03:00Kristin Batalucco:Wait, no, you're saying - Oh, I killed, I ran someone over.

1:03:03Jay Shetty:Yeah, yeah, you ran someone over. Wait, yeah. Yeah. And then you call these guys and I'm saying, would you tell them to, wait, wait, wait. I confused myself. No, no, no. They're right. I confused myself. It's if one of them did it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, sorry, sorry. If you called it, sorry. If yes, my bad. Thank you so much for correcting me. I was wrong. Let this be in my statement. I admit it was wrong. If you ran someone over and you called Dave to tell them what happened, would he help you bury the body? Would he call the cops himself? or would he tell you to disappear? Disappear is a new one.

1:03:38Jay Shetty:Yeah, I'm adding a third. I'm changing. What if I had the opportunity to change it? Yeah.

1:03:41Dave Burd:But is it our fault though? Or was it an accident?

1:03:44Jay Shetty:It's an accident. Obviously you didn't do it on purpose. What would Dave tell you to do? This is a test of Dave's character.

1:03:51Benny Blanco:Yeah. I don't know. I like framing it that way.

1:03:53Jay Shetty:Yeah.

1:03:56Benny Blanco:I feel like I know. I feel like I have the black marker all over because I've been doodling.

1:04:04Jay Shetty:All right, Dave, what would you do?

1:04:05Benny Blanco:I can see yours, Dave, but I don't look.

1:04:07Jay Shetty:Dave would disappear. You tell them to disappear. I never want to see you again.

1:04:12Kristin Batalucco:Wow.

1:04:12Jay Shetty:Wow.

1:04:13Kristin Batalucco:I was kidding about the second sentence, but disappear. Disappear. Get out of here. Go good.

1:04:17Dave Burd:I said he would analyze all the facts at hand. That's what I would do.

1:04:21Jay Shetty:That's a great answer based on our conversation.

1:04:24Dave Burd:Kristen, what did you write?

1:04:24Benny Blanco:I said he would tell us to call the cops. I think at the end of the day.

1:04:27Dave Burd:I think he would have to analyze all the facts at hand. Let's talk about this.

1:04:31Jay Shetty:This is the first question we've really had. Don't you agree?

1:04:34Kristin Batalucco:I definitely wouldn't bury the bot. Like, I think I would talk. I can't get wrapped up in criminal activity like that. But nor would I call the cops, like, behind their back ever. I think I would try to convince that person why the thing to do is just call the cops.

1:04:50Dave Burd:I think you'd have to analyze all the facts.

1:04:52Kristin Batalucco:Or disappear. Yeah, disappear.

1:04:53Benny Blanco:You would do the right thing ultimately.

1:04:55Kristin Batalucco:Yes, but here's what, I'm not willing to bury a body for you or anyone. I am willing to perhaps hear of something and just pretend that I never heard of it. Yeah, let's change the subject. Yeah, we'll change the subject.

1:05:12Benny Blanco:He does, you do have a lot of OCD around that subject.

1:05:15Jay Shetty:All right, all right, okay. We'll do Benny, we'll do Benny. A couple of questions on Benny, good stuff for Dave. what's something Benny pretends doesn't bother him but actually does?

1:05:24Benny Blanco:He doesn't really ever pretend.

1:05:26Jay Shetty:Yes, he does. Okay. I do? Okay.

1:05:29Dave Burd:Let me try to think.

1:05:30Kristin Batalucco:I'm going to try two. Can I do two options? You can have two.

1:05:33Dave Burd:Kristen could get this right. What is it? Or do I do mine first?

1:05:37Jay Shetty:Yes. Benny, reveal.

1:05:39Dave Burd:Putting things in my fridge incorrectly. I was going to say that.

1:05:42Kristin Batalucco:Oh, that's a good answer. I was going to say that. I don't think you pretend that that doesn't bother.

1:05:45Dave Burd:I do for anyone else except Kristen. I was going to say it,

1:05:48Benny Blanco:And I'm like, you're so overtly...

1:05:50Jay Shetty:That's why you didn't let me put your stuff in the fridge today.

1:05:52Dave Burd:No, no, no. I didn't put it in the fridge. I just wanted it to be taken out a little bit.

1:05:57Kristin Batalucco:If he puts out something musically that has the potential to go number one, and it doesn't go number one, he'll say to everyone else, I'm not bothered by not going number one, but I think it bothers him to not go number one, go number two.

1:06:17Jay Shetty:Yeah.

1:06:17Kristin Batalucco:if number one is achieved you know certain songs they have no chance certain albums have a chance um so not going number one they're saying if it's achievable you're saying if it's achieved

1:06:27Dave Burd:if like if i'm gonna go like if i'm gonna go 60 doesn't matter but if i'm gonna go number two

1:06:32Kristin Batalucco:one if you have the expectation that a number one is within reach and you go three or two or ten i can relate you're annoyed which i will tell you i'm gonna tell you my answer after yeah um And then my other thing is, Benny's favorite line as of this year is, I don't care about anything. I've never heard Benny say anything more than, I don't care about anything. And I think oftentimes he'll say that when we're talking about something that we both care about. And if it seems like I want something that he doesn't want, he will say, I don't care about anything. But I know he cares. He just wants to stop talking about it.

1:07:13Kristin Batalucco:Yeah. Yeah.

1:07:13Dave Burd:Okay.

1:07:14Jay Shetty:And then I'll answer them all after. Yeah. Go on, Kristen.

1:07:16Benny Blanco:Mine is not sticking with the plan, like with a plan or the plan, which is kind of in relation to like, I think I don't care about anything. If you, I think if you, if you start to feel the loss of control instead, Benny will just be like, I don't care about anything. Doesn't matter.

1:07:31Jay Shetty:Go on, Benny. You have to defend yourself.

1:07:34Dave Burd:This thing. I don't feel, I don't even understand it really, but I don't. What do you What do you mean?

1:07:42Benny Blanco:It's not sticking with the plant. What more do you need to understand?

1:07:45Dave Burd:I don't understand the context. Which part? The I don't care about anything is like this to me. When I'm having a conversation with someone, I'll just use Dave as the example. When I'm talking to someone and like usually pretty quickly into a conversation, I can figure out whether this person is going to be like even receptive to like the information that I'm saying or whether I think that they're they have like something made up in their mind and like there's such a minute chance of me changing it and then I say in my head I say well is this ever gonna change is it that important if it doesn't and then just to nip it in the butt I'll be like I don't really care about anything and then that's my thing with the number one thing it used to be very true to me that used to be so true to me I was fixated on getting the number one at any cost like even if it was number 40 like I was like I like had to I used to be when I was younger I used to really really care so much that I felt like I wasn't even enjoying the things in front of me because I was like so like I'd get the number one, like in something, I'd be the best at it.

1:09:07Dave Burd:Like I'd have like a number one billboard record. And then I'd be not even like celebrating. I'd be like, yeah, that's cool. And then like move on to the next thing. And I wouldn't even think about it. And I feel like, I feel like that was so true to me for so many years of my life. And honestly, until pretty recently, until probably like four years ago. And then it was really solidified, honestly, with Selena, because I I felt like I won. I won it. And I already did. I already know that like I solidified what I wanted to do. And it was like the first time in my life where I didn't care. That doesn't mean that if it is in sight, I'm going to do everything in my physical power to try to do the best thing I can because that's just the type of person I am.

1:09:51Dave Burd:I love the competition. I love striving for the greatness, but it doesn't have the same importance that it did have on me for so long. It used to have me in like a chokehold. and then like I felt like I was finally freed of that like in the last like four or five years and it was like so freeing but I understand both sides I completely do I can relate to it yeah I understand like I used to be the guy looking every week at the chart seeing if we were getting close and I was so I put so much importance on it and I don't even know why I did because I didn't even care when I got it like but I think I did care but I was so fixated on getting the net

1:10:28Kristin Batalucco:you probably just relieved when you got it

1:10:29Dave Burd:Yeah, I think I was probably just relieved. And it was like such a rat race. And I'm so happy to be free of it. But I do also understand that side of me when I was so into it. Because I'm like, yeah, that's cool to do that. But it is also cool to be like totally free of it. And I think the healthy medium is probably somewhere in the middle.

1:10:48Jay Shetty:Somewhere in the middle, yeah. Well, thank you guys. Thank you for playing. That started off some really intense conversations. We can do a few more or I can take you to our ending three questions. I'd like to do a few more. I'm having fun.

1:11:00Benny Blanco:You guys should cancel all your plans after. I'm staying. All right.

1:11:04Jay Shetty:Okay. These are more fun ones.

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1:11:53Jay Shetty:Who is most likely to survive a zombie apocalypse? Now you get to free for all. write down anyone

1:11:59Benny Blanco:it has to be out of the three of us yes okay

1:12:02Jay Shetty:three two one reveal what did you say oh why Benny everyone tells the same person why Benny

1:12:09Kristin Batalucco:I just have more skill

1:12:11Dave Burd:like

1:12:11Kristin Batalucco:I'm the last no question between those two and I just think men physically are stronger than women what

1:12:16Dave Burd:physically right but why would that have to come into it it's just me too I'm gone I thought it was like going by like resourcefulness well then I definitely

1:12:26Benny Blanco:would win because I feel like I can strategically.

1:12:30Kristin Batalucco:Kristen's pretty athletic too. Yeah. No, I just mean, well, yeah.

1:12:35Benny Blanco:I don't know. My instinct was to say that. All I know is it's not me.

1:12:38Jay Shetty:I'm the last. Well, everyone rated each other on different scorecards. Okay, what's the next? All right, the next question is, who takes the longest to reply to text? You're pretty responsive with me.

1:12:48Kristin Batalucco:She responds to every. Oh, Kristen. No, Kristen's so good. No, Kristen's terrible. I don't even.

1:12:54Benny Blanco:I thought you always made fun of me. I never respond.

1:12:56Kristin Batalucco:I actually think Kristen's worse than you. I just don't respond. Because both of them.

1:13:02Jay Shetty:Does she respond to you? Kristen has never texted me since we met. So that says a lot. Kristen will respond to only me.

1:13:07Kristin Batalucco:And she responds to me relatively timely. Benny will respond to, and she doesn't respond to anyone else ever.

1:13:12Benny Blanco:No, that's not true. Let me say this. I mean, I do have a little bit of anxiety with texting.

1:13:18Jay Shetty:Yeah.

1:13:19Benny Blanco:So I, and I don't like to ever feel like I have to do something. Like, I don't wake up in the morning and read my texts. Like, I think that's where I am going wrong. And now I have, like, I think 1 ,600 unread text messages.

1:13:31Jay Shetty:It's going to be a lot more DMs and...

1:13:34Benny Blanco:Well, I don't look at my DMs. I've never looked at DMs.

1:13:36Jay Shetty:She's not public. No, but now...

1:13:38Benny Blanco:But I don't even look at my friends.

1:13:39Dave Burd:She's still not going to be public.

1:13:40Jay Shetty:You're still not going to be public?

1:13:42Dave Burd:No. We'll see. Wow. I don't think you should. I like this school.

1:13:45Kristin Batalucco:Benny responds to every text, like, no matter what. Yes, agreed, yeah. It's just there's, like, a 72-hour backup.

1:13:52Benny Blanco:And he does it, you know he's doing it in the morning, and it will like, sometimes he'll respond to like a text that doesn't even make sense anymore and you'll just get like, ha ha ha ha ha.

1:14:00Kristin Batalucco:He'll respond to like a group chat like two days later and it's so not relevant anymore. But everyone's moved on.

1:14:08Dave Burd:But he's still, but I'm catching up. Yeah, he's catching up.

1:14:12Benny Blanco:I text in spurts. Like you'll, if I'm like paying attention to my phone, I'll have a, I'll be there.

1:14:17Kristin Batalucco:Kristen, like, you know, her parents will be like, hey, do you think you could tell Kristen to respond to?

1:14:22Jay Shetty:Yeah.

1:14:22Benny Blanco:I got a text on the way here from my mom that was saying, hey, could you read the family text and please respond? No way. And I thought, I am in the car.

1:14:31Jay Shetty:She's the worst at text. She really is. Roddy's the same. It's hard. Yeah, Roddy's the same.

1:14:36Benny Blanco:My phone's a beeper. It's just for emergencies.

1:14:38Jay Shetty:I'll respond instantly with way too much. I appreciate that, though, because then I feel like there's texture to the text and we can actually get somewhere. Jay, I'll text you just so you know that I'm capable.

1:14:48Benny Blanco:I'm waiting for that text.

1:14:50Jay Shetty:I've been texting with these guys for like a year and a half now.

1:14:52Benny Blanco:Yeah, well, okay.

1:14:53Jay Shetty:Okay, next one. Who would accidentally start a cult? Go for it. Reveal. Oh, me? You put me in it. I'm not one of the people. I'm not a cult reader.

1:15:07Dave Burd:No, I was trying to think. We wouldn't be, you have more of like the soothing thing. Like your message could like being like tranquil. Like no one wants to join our cult. The reason I said Kristen, I only said Kristen because.

1:15:22Benny Blanco:I could definitely be like a cult.

1:15:25Kristin Batalucco:Kristen, everyone likes Kristen, and Kristen loves everyone she meets and thinks she's going to be the best friend. That is true. So it's like so many people that she runs into, she could end up thinking that they're going to be close, and then all of a sudden there's like, you know, a cult somehow. I don't know.

1:15:39Dave Burd:Okay. Did you style your hair to be like us today? Yeah, I was like, it's very styled.

1:15:45Jay Shetty:My hair's always like this.

1:15:45Benny Blanco:Yeah, you guys all have like a similar look. It's different.

1:15:47Jay Shetty:This is the first time we've had three people with curly hair on the show at the same time. You got lots of stats. Did they give you all these? No. I'm making them up. I'm making them up. I was like, I'm going to sound like that. Three people.

1:15:59Benny Blanco:You guys do have the same hairstyle. We do.

1:16:01Jay Shetty:We have like variations of it. Yeah. Is it longer? Would it like throw out? Yeah. It's like my hair's like, my hair's like this naturally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like, I feel like it's like evolution of hair. It's like me to Dave to Benny. Yeah. It's like that. Evolution. It is. What do you guys say? Evolution.

1:16:19Benny Blanco:I like evolution. Aluminium.

1:16:22Jay Shetty:Aluminium, yeah. Aluminum is what you're going to say. Oh, you call it aluminum? Aluminium. Huh? Aluminium. There's another I in it. There are a few words.

1:16:29Kristin Batalucco:There's one word that I can't think of it now, and it's unfortunate. The food.

1:16:32Benny Blanco:The food.

1:16:32Kristin Batalucco:What do you call it? Courgette. Courgette. Aubergine. There's one word you always say. I can't remember it, but you say it different.

1:16:38Dave Burd:No, it's like. Also, people say, they say, so in America, you would say, like, his name is Dave. But, like, if we were British, we would say, he's called Dave. How do you say innovative?

1:16:49Jay Shetty:Innovative. that's what it is innovative that's what you said innovative I had to think about it now because I hear it

1:16:54Dave Burd:nonchalant you said funny too I don't think you said

1:16:57Jay Shetty:nonchalant no he said nonchalant normal

1:16:58Dave Burd:oh no you said it said something different

1:17:00Jay Shetty:I said you want me to be less chalant while I was joking around

1:17:03Benny Blanco:wow I like I like chalant yeah

1:17:06Jay Shetty:yeah chalant maybe I should change my alright these are the last three because these are you don't have to write for these anymore these were questions given by so before the show you can keep those whiteboards they're yours I'll sign them no no we won't keep them

1:17:17Dave Burd:we gotta up

1:17:18Jay Shetty:I asked you each for a question you'd like me to ask the other two people in the room.

1:17:25Benny Blanco:Oh yeah. So it's hard.

1:17:26Jay Shetty:So these are the questions you gave. We'll start with Benny. So Benny's question to both of you, and the answer has to be in one sentence. I'll maybe let you expand. The question from Benny is, how do you separate work from your relationship? If you're disagreeing in work, does it spill over interpersonal and vice versa.

1:17:48Benny Blanco:I would say that we, well, I think you've been a part of it. Dave and I are really, this is like the one thing that's great about our relationship. And now I feel similarly with Benny is that we can, we can like have arguments and we can get upset with each other. And then like instantly kind of, once we feel like we've turned over the stones in the argument or like gotten to a place, it's never carried over. Like we've never been, have we ever been mad more than a day if even if a day i don't think we've ever been mad for a full day i've

1:18:19Dave Burd:never been mad oh you guys yeah yeah are you asking about us two yeah yeah i was yeah then you said something about me yeah sorry yeah it's going to take it away uh i think he asked the

1:18:30Kristin Batalucco:question because we work so like beyond even just uh our multimedia uh creation um you know any script she writes, I'm a part of that with her. Any script I write, she's a part of that with me. So it's really, I mean, she's not a part of my musical process, though. That's my, I get separation there, because she likes more poppy stuff that I, and just like...

1:18:52Benny Blanco:No, that's not true. No, she doesn't like poppy stuff.

1:18:53Kristin Batalucco:No, she's the opposite. She likes less poppy.

1:18:56Benny Blanco:One time I gave you a bunch of thoughts. Separation. She doesn't, you know... He doesn't like to show me his music.

1:19:00Kristin Batalucco:I hate showing her my music. Oh. But let me just like... She doesn't listen to lyrics.

1:19:03Benny Blanco:Yeah.

1:19:03Kristin Batalucco:So I could show her a recording of me where the verses are... And she would like that just as much as me like doing really clever lyrics. Wow.

1:19:13Benny Blanco:No, but he also, we tried, he tried to show me his music once, but it was so, I had to, he literally like pulled up the chair directly in front of the computer. It was blasting, the speakers were blasting and I wasn't allowed to move. And I just, it had to be under his circumstances. I hate the way he sets up the experience.

1:19:31Dave Burd:Yeah. Because you have to sit there. I tell him I'm not sitting there and don't show me the music.

1:19:36Benny Blanco:Yeah, so then I feel like it was a bad experience.

1:19:37Dave Burd:Wait, this is becoming about what we don't like about David again.

1:19:39Jay Shetty:That was not the question.

1:19:41Kristin Batalucco:To answer Benny's original question, how do we separate? I mean, I selfishly don't always feel the need to because when we're talking about work or whatever we're working on, I find it so inspiring and fun. And to me, there's nothing more fun to talk about now. So I look at it as like, this is great. I get to have fun with my best friend and we're being productive at the same time. Now, you know, sometimes I feel like, you know, I remember when I originally started dating Kristen and I learned that she kind of has the same exact interests and passions professionally as I do. I did have the thought, oh man, like, would I be better off marrying someone who was like an English teacher?

1:20:26Kristin Batalucco:And there was like complete separation of church and state. but now seeing the opposite i'm so happy that we get to connect over the thing because like you know i think there's just such a joy to me when i get to talk about the things i care the most about in life which unfortunately is work now i'm not working like some corporate drudgery job i'm working on like the self-expression of my soul so yeah it's it's different to be like oh there's no separate i'm not like working at an accounting firm like i'm talking about you know how to tell all these stories that I feel born to tell. And she's it's fun.

1:20:59Kristin Batalucco:Like we're talking about funny creative shit.

1:21:01Benny Blanco:But you've helped me become I would say that like you've you've given me more confidence professionally. The good thing about us working together is you've given like I feel like over the few years that we've kind of like really co meshed our professional lives. I kind of come from come from a place of like more self-doubt and like insecurity. And he's really helped me get like the kind of confidence to even be doing this and writing and stuff. I feel like it's been really, I'm so thankful that you're like a good mentor and a husband.

1:21:32Jay Shetty:Great answers,

1:21:33Kristin Batalucco:guys. Beautiful. Really nice. That felt good. But we should go on more dates without talking about the tasks at hand. That's the newest thing that I had to say.

1:21:41Benny Blanco:I think sometimes I'll be like, especially with the anxiety that I've had, which I'm on a new path forward and I'm a new person And I no longer create the self-inflicted torture of like anxiety about the podcast in particular. But there was a period where I was like, we have to stop talking about work all the time because I can't like mentally break away from it. And it was I just I wasn't. But now I'm now you can sign me up.

1:22:08Kristin Batalucco:What was the time where I was like, I don't want to talk about this right now? And you kept talking. Oh, you were home. Doesn't matter. because I was about to like do something with music where I just had to be in like the state of mind that and I was in such a good mood I had no anxiety about anything with like the podcast or whatever you want to call it and she I said I don't want to talk about it right now

1:22:30Benny Blanco:and she just wanted to talk about it well this is an interesting I did start going to therapy because I was like it's important that he can't always be the like I have such a tendency when I have anxiety to like for me to get over my anxiety, I have to say every thought that I have, which it used to be OK. I mean, I'm sure it's exhausting for him, but it used to not be so related to what he was doing. So therapy has been helpful because instead of like taking him on, which he's still very supportive, but like I don't have to like I felt like I was like bringing him down. So the therapy now is a lot easier for me to like just mentally spiral and then I'm not putting it on you so we've learned a little we've we've kind of like started to create some boundaries

1:23:11Kristin Batalucco:and i learned no now not to get her worked up when she's in bed and i know not to like if i sometimes i'm i come in and i come up with the idea of like we should do this that and then she and she's

1:23:21Jay Shetty:very easily yeah she needs to sleep yeah well no i just would get like revved up and excited yeah me and my wife feel like so like i'm the one who comes to bed and wants to chat and talk and like and she does not want to yeah and she's like first thing in the morning wants to chat and talk and I'm like, I need to like gear up slowly. So I get that. That's beautiful. Thank you.

1:23:39Benny Blanco:We need to thaw out. I have to thaw out in the morning though.

1:23:41Jay Shetty:So this was Kristen's question for Benny and Dave. Do you guys talk about me when I leave the room?

1:23:50Benny Blanco:You have to answer honestly.

1:23:53Jay Shetty:Not really, no.

1:23:54Dave Burd:Cool. Not really.

1:23:56Benny Blanco:This was a hard thing to, hard question. I couldn't really think of it. It's a good question.

1:23:59Dave Burd:The only time I remember that is at New Year's when I was like, what are you guys talking about? And then Dave said, I'm not at liberty to tell you. And then he said, and then I was like, all right. And then we just started talking about something else. And then when you came over, you were like, are you talking about me? And we weren't talking about you at that time.

1:24:22Benny Blanco:It's a question I ask a lot, this paranoia that as soon as I leave the room. But I know that it's mostly more of a joke. I know you guys aren't.

1:24:28Kristin Batalucco:No, we never really talk trash about her. No. We're positive.

1:24:32Benny Blanco:Oh, do you guys say positive things behind my back?

1:24:34Kristin Batalucco:She's pretty inconsequential to both of us.

1:24:36Benny Blanco:Do you say positive things behind my back? Like, wow.

1:24:38Jay Shetty:No, he just said no.

1:24:40Dave Burd:Yeah, I've said like, I've said like I was so blown away by how well Kristen's done. Like, I remember we talked about that before.

1:24:49Kristin Batalucco:So you guys see me in the room? We talk about you the way guys talk about their wives. We're not like talking about you professionally that often. Yeah, there's never, and there's never, do you guys not have this fear?

1:25:02Dave Burd:Dave's never come. No, I don't think.

1:25:03Benny Blanco:I live, I always am like, as soon as I leave, are they all talking about me?

1:25:07Dave Burd:You guys are talking about me? No, and if you guys are talking about me, I'm like, oh, either there's a reason or like they're upset with something or I don't care. Yeah. I think I care, I care too much what people think.

1:25:18Benny Blanco:So I'm always like, even though it's like kind of half joking, I will, I thought everybody felt this way. Be like.

1:25:24Jay Shetty:A lot of people do feel this way. As soon as I leave, I'll be like, I wonder, even if it's not bad, I just wonder if they're being like, yeah, she was talked a lot that time or she said that really bad question.

1:25:36Kristin Batalucco:She has so much self-doubt and like circular thoughts of negativity that our brains are like on hum positive.

1:25:44Jay Shetty:I think so much of that is women's conditioning in society, treatment of women in society. Like that's my take on it. I was going to say that.

1:25:51Kristin Batalucco:I was going to say that.

1:25:52Benny Blanco:And ADD. No, I'm being deadly serious.

1:25:55Jay Shetty:When I talk to all my male friends, they all feel the same way. I talk to my female friends, they all feel that way. So I'm like, wait, you can't then just ignore it.

1:26:05Benny Blanco:And I think it's been a little bit more, it's been more exaggerated just because of the uncertainty about all of this being public. I feel like I live.

1:26:16Jay Shetty:Your hair's in your mouth. I'm sorry. I can't see it from there at all. I didn't see it either.

1:26:21Benny Blanco:It's just why I said it was, guys. I told you to do it. I tell them to do this thing. Thank you.

1:26:25Jay Shetty:Yeah, it's beautiful.

1:26:26Kristin Batalucco:Yeah, it's been exacerbated because you're dealing... Me and Benny are also, even though, yes, we're men, we're like... You've been public for so long. Yeah. We're like the two... No one believes in themselves more than me and Benny. Like, we don't think we're just... Oh, I know that. It's like that compared to self-doubt, it makes it feel even more of a... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:26:44Benny Blanco:But I'm doing a lot better because I realized that... I realized that so much of my self-doubt is like my default narrator, like in my head. and I feel like this podcast will help me. I don't know. I could just crumble. You guys may never see me again. Not in a bad way.

1:27:01Jay Shetty:You're so aware. I think, you know, I think part of it is just as hard as you are in yourself, you don't give yourself enough credit as well, but like you're so aware of what's going on in your mind. I think if you're not aware, that's when it's really, really hard. I agree. She's very, you're right. I like to hear that. Yeah. You're very self-aware. I'm doing okay. Yeah. All right. Final question. This was Dave's question. I saved what I believed to be the best for last. Thank you, Jay. This is Dave's question. So Dave's question to Kristen and Benny is, if I died, how often would you guys hang out or see each other?

1:27:36Benny Blanco:Wow. I feel like if you die, that'd be so heartbreaking and we'd be sharing, we'd be like experiencing similar pain. Well, me more, but I can't speak on half of Benny. Maybe he would be, I don't know. Frequently? I don't know, like as much as we could.

1:27:54Dave Burd:Chuck, first, obviously, I would edit all the things to I know how you would like them, and I'd find a way to make... You'd get the right features? Yeah, I'd find... First I was talking about the show. Then I'd edit. Yeah, I'd make sure to get the right features. We've spoken enough about it. I'd be able to at least... There's like 15 songs I could cobble together to something great, and I would do that and I would make sure not cobble together 15 songs I could cobble together no no no no to make something like truly like

1:28:28Benny Blanco:but would you do it hanging out with me isn't that the question

1:28:30Dave Burd:no no no this was a side would she be involved

1:28:34Kristin Batalucco:would you involve her in the album

1:28:36Benny Blanco:no clearly he's not

1:28:37Dave Burd:no no no but I would involve her in like the roll out

1:28:42Benny Blanco:would I still be invited to like the dinner parties

1:28:44Dave Burd:yeah I think I would hang out with you I think you would well I'd like you to fill like my Dave role. Like, I feel like you'd, I feel like I'd be calling you like every day. It would be so,

1:28:58Benny Blanco:you can't, you have to, we have to protect you at all costs.

1:29:00Kristin Batalucco:Or would you guys be so reminded of me when you saw each other that you'd actually have to never see each other ever again? No, no, no. We'd see each other all the time.

1:29:08Benny Blanco:If I died, would you guys just replace me?

1:29:11Kristin Batalucco:No, what?

1:29:14Benny Blanco:In the show.

1:29:16Dave Burd:No, it would just be a two-person show.

1:29:18Benny Blanco:What?

1:29:18Dave Burd:No, it would be done. Yeah. Or would we keep... No, I wouldn't be that interested anymore.

1:29:23Benny Blanco:I'm glad you got all the footage, though.

1:29:25Jay Shetty:Yeah.

1:29:25Kristin Batalucco:No one's dying. I hate talking about this, even though I... You're the same question.

1:29:29Jay Shetty:No one's dying. We've got footage again. I know. Everyone needs facts. Yeah. You brought it up. Guys, I am so... I mean, just spending time with you makes me just love the show even more. But I want to say to all of you, like, truly, you guys, trusting me, giving me this opportunity to do this with you has been a highlight of my professional career, like, to work with all three of you because it's very rare that when you're like, you know, when I started my podcast seven years ago, I never thought I'd be helping create something amazing with the vision of all three of you. And I feel so lucky and fortunate.

1:30:00Jay Shetty:So thank you for the gift. Thank you for the blessing. And thank you for all your help.

1:30:04Dave Burd:We feel just the same way. We love you, Jay. You're our mentor. You're our guru.

1:30:09Jay Shetty:I'm definitely, no, don't stop making me this cult leader though. No, no, no, I wasn't.

1:30:13Dave Burd:No, you're like the, you're so good to bounce all this stuff. I feel like you've already laid, you know, laid the ground. We're just trying that.

1:30:26Jay Shetty:I don't think it's that. You guys had a vision. You know what you're building. I think it's been fun getting the opportunity to be a part of it. That's how I feel about it. So thank you for letting me be a part of your crazy creative vision.

1:30:37Kristin Batalucco:Thank you for hearing our desires and not scoffing at them and doing your best to make it all happen. Yeah, absolutely. Friends keep secrets. Excite. On three? What happens now? Friends on three?

1:30:48Benny Blanco:On purpose on three? Yeah, friends on purpose.

1:30:52Kristin Batalucco:Friends on purpose on three. One, two, three. Friends on purpose.

1:30:56Jay Shetty:If you love this episode, you'll really enjoy my episode with Selena Gomez on befriending your inner critic and how to speak to yourself with more compassion. There's blessing in the breaking. and every moment that you encounter in your life,

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