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Podcast Summary: On Purpose with Jay Shetty - Episode with Dave Asprey
Podcast Overview Host: Jay Shetty Description: On Purpose is the world's #1 Mental Health podcast, aiming to foster conversations and workshops to help listeners achieve happiness, health, and healing through various topics including relationships, work challenges, and self-development.
Episode Title Dave Asprey ON: Simple Steps to Reduce Your Biological Age by 12% & Ways to Manage Your Emotional Stress to Change Your Life
Episode Description In this episode, Jay Shetty welcomes back Dave Asprey, known as the 'Father of Biohacking.' Asprey shares insights on biological age, managing emotional stress, and everyday habits to improve health and longevity. He discusses the impacts of laziness, optimizing metabolism, and the importance of nutrition for overall well-being.
Key Themes Biological Age vs. Calendar Age
- Measuring Biological Age:
- Biological age can be measured through DNA methylation, using blood samples to determine health compared to typical age markers. Asprey claims to be 11 years younger than his calendar age.
The Power of Laziness
- Rethinking Laziness:
- Laziness can be advantageous; rather than forcing hard work, finding efficient ways to achieve goals can lead to better outcomes. Emphasizing effectiveness over effort can enhance motivation and results.
Nutrition and Health
- Vitamins and Minerals:
- Asprey highlights the importance of adequate mineral intake for health. He asserts that many health issues stem from mineral deficiencies.
- Protein Needs:
- Recommended protein intake is approximately 0.8-1 gram per pound of body weight. Asprey emphasizes the superiority of animal proteins over plant-based options for muscle building and overall health.
Emotional and Spiritual Well-Being
- Emotional Stress Management:
- Understanding that emotional stress can primarily be attributed to physical health and nutritional deficiencies.
- The Reset Process:
- A technique to let go of trauma by finding gratitude first, recognizing the hurt, and then forgiving to unburden oneself emotionally.
Dietary Recommendations
- Dairy and Alternative Milk:
- Advocates for raw, grass-fed dairy and critiques plant-based milks that often lack nutrients.
- Fats and Oils:
- Explains the difference between healthy (saturated) and unhealthy (polyunsaturated) fats, advocating for the latter to avoid inflammation and health issues.
Key Takeaways
- You can potentially measure 20 years younger than your actual age through biological health strategies.
- Laziness can be leveraged to work smarter, not harder.
- Consuming adequate essential minerals is critical for overall health and emotional well-being.
- Emotional stress is frequently linked to physical nutritional status; addressing one often improves the other.
- Proper dietary choices, particularly regarding protein and healthy fats, significantly influence health outcomes.
Episode Structure
- Introduction
- Overview of guest and topics.
- Discussion Points
- Biological age, laziness as a tool for productivity.
- Importance of minerals, protein sources, and the impact on emotional health.
- Techniques such as the Reset Process for emotional healing.
- Nutritional advice including dairy and oil choices.
- Conclusion
- Recap of key insights and encouragement to explore personal health journeys.
Resources Mentioned
- Dave Asprey's Website: [Dave Asprey](https://daveasprey.com/)
- Upgrade Labs: [Upgrade Labs](https://upgradelabs.com/)
- Book: *Smarter, Not Harder: The Biohacker's Guide to Getting the Body and Mind You Want*
Closing Thoughts The episode is a wealth of information for anyone interested in optimizing their health, understanding the connections between physical and emotional well-being, and challenging conventional health narratives. Asprey's insights into biohacking and wellness provide actionable steps for listeners to enhance their quality of life.
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4:04We've all been shamed for being lazy. Talking about laziness, the only thing worse is talking about death. We are living in a world today where you can measure as 20 years younger than your calendar age. You don't have to get old. Before we jump into this episode, I'd like to invite you to join this community to hear more interviews that will help you become happier, healthier, and more healed. All I want you to do is click on the subscribe button. I love your support. It's incredible to see all your comments and we're just getting started. I can't wait to go on this journey with you. Thank you so much for subscribing.
4:38It means the world to me. The best-selling author and host. The number one health and wellness podcast. On Purpose with Jay Shetty. Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose, the number one health podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to listen, learn and grow. Now you know that I'm curious about biohacking, about becoming better, about improving my energy, my focus, my strength. And there's a guest that we've had on twice before who I'm so excited to have back on because he is the father of biohacking. someone who has brought this movement to the fore, helped create so many products, insights, books that have guided us through this.
5:16I'm talking about the one and only Dave Asprey, entrepreneur, four-time New York Times bestselling author and host of the top 100 podcast, The Human Upgrade, formerly Bulletproof Radio, which is more than 200 million downloads. Dave is the co-founder of Bulletproof Coffee and a leading voice in the movement to take control of our own biology. News outlets like The Today Show, CNN, Wired, Good Morning America, Fast Company, and many more call him the father of biohacking. And over the last two decades, Dave has worked with world-renowned doctors, researchers, scientists, and global mavericks to uncover the latest, most innovative methods.
5:57And what I love about what Dave does is he makes what could cost a lot of money extremely accessible, relevant, and practical. And he's doing that in this new book called Smarter, Not Harder. the biohacker's guide to getting the body and mind you want. Go and grab a copy of this right now. We're going to put a link in the captions. You can order it while you're listening to us. Welcome back to the show, Dave Asprey. Dave, third time. Jay, it's always such a pleasure to get time in person with you. I know, me too. I really love seeing you. And I said it to you today. I see you like, you know, whenever we're connecting, maybe it's at a conference or obviously on the podcast, you look better and younger and fitter and healthier every time over the last few years.
6:36And I think that's testament to everything you say working and everything you're saying, you're practicing it. And honestly, I saw you today and I was just like, who's this big, bright light in my house? Like, you know, it's really special to obviously practice what you preach, but to actually see the benefits. You must feel great too. I mean, I feel amazing. I wrote a big book on longevity that I published a few years ago and I went really deep. For 20 years, I've been running a nonprofit and just working in that field, but I went really deep and I started doing the stuff more aggressively. And I am now, let's see, 11 years younger than my calendar age.
7:13And last week, I just got some gene therapy that'll take another nine years off my measured age. So I should test to be about 30 years old, even though the calendar believes something different. What is that measuring? So I've heard people talk about measuring their age before. How is that calculating? Obviously, we know how your calendar age marks, but how are they calculating a biological age? Like, what does that look like? What are the processes? You draw a little bit of blood and then they look at something called DNA methylation, about 800 ,000 different data points. And you can say, well, normal people have this much methylation in this pattern, but people who are younger look this way.
7:49So if you take two people's blood, you should be able to tell their age. But if they take my blood, they get a much younger age. So this is now the gold standard for measuring how old you are. there's other more affordable tests like viome has an age that's based on a lot of things that are happening in your gut bacteria and in your body and then there's old-fashioned blood telomere tests that don't work very well so yeah don't trust those ones you may feel like you're 10 years older but but that's that's not accurate well i want to dive into this new book there are so many chapters that really stood out to me as we were going and i picked out some lines here that really kind of hit me this one i thought was huge and i love how you start the book on laziness and you talk about tapping into the power of laziness.
8:28And I was just thinking this is so true because whenever anyone's trying to shift their health, whether it's biohacking, whether it's mental health, whatever it may be, laziness seems to be like this big elephant in the room, right? It's like that thing that slows you down. It makes you lax. It feels like it's negative, but you say you're not lazy, your body is. And you talk about tapping into the power of laziness. Tell me how you do that and what does that mean? because I think a lot of you're going to make a lot of people happy today. I will. But even talking about laziness, the only thing worse is talking about death.
9:02I mean, people, they don't want to do it. So when I would do an Instagram post about laziness, people would just not watch it because like, I don't want to face that. And we've all been shamed for being lazy. There's that coach who's like, don't be so lazy. Run around the field again. And the teacher, you know, you're not performing or your parents. So we have all this shame about it. the reality though is that your body has an operating system i call it the meat operating system and a lot of spiritual work is actually accessing that and it has a very strong desire to not waste energy and that is a sacred thing right imagine if we had two people and one of them says working hard gets results and i said all right guys go dig a ditch and one of them says i got my shovel and the other one says i got a tractor okay the guy with the tractor was done in 20 minutes and the other guy works for three days and we somehow believe without thinking the virtuous guy is the guy with a shovel because he worked hard and we're unconsciously believing that working hard gets results so we shame ourselves when we don't work hard and sadly when we work hard and we don't get results we start feeling like victims which is really toxic we all know people work really hard and don't get results maybe it's because we have a belief system in there that doesn't work.
10:19And when we say, well, couldn't I do this in an easier way? We start feeling shame. Now it's not okay to do it the easy way because the virtue comes from the struggle. But in the world that we live in, the virtue comes from getting it done and understanding that you will always have a desire to be lazy and think about it. You wake up and you say, all right, I could go to the gym or there's a couch and there's donuts and netflix the couch is always going to look sexier and there's we start well I should want the gym no you shouldn't your body really does want the extra energy from the donuts and not using any energy in case there's a famine so embracing that your motivation from your body is to save energy and there's nothing wrong with that so then how do you use that to motivate yourself that's how to hack laziness well if If you go to the gym, let's say you're going to do cardio, go to a span class.
11:13If you did an hour a day, five days a week, that's aggressive. You're going to improve after two months, 2 % improvement in your fitness. If you do the lazy way, the thing I write about in Smarter, Not Harder, you're going to spend 15 minutes a week. You will not sweat. That's the amount of time you spend brushing your teeth, by the way. You'll improve by 12%, six times more. So you wake up and you say, today, I'm going to save 50 minutes of not working at the gym because I'm going to do it better. And all of a sudden it's really motivating because the body says, I get to save energy at the gym.
11:45And then the body aligns its motivation with what your mind wants. And then the resistance fades. And it's a really important thing. It's something that I've never seen written about anywhere. So use the savings of time, the savings of energy to motivate yourself. But you know who does know about this? Big food companies. They will send you a 25 cent coupon oh look i saved 25 cents because to our body saving money feels like a lot more than it really is right so it's about an unconscious view of reality so since we know our body does that without our knowledge or permission let's just use it to our advantage instead of against us yeah absolutely so you're using a 15 minute workout per day no no no no no using a 15 minute workout five minutes three times a week five minutes three times a week how is that having a 12 % change.
12:36Well, maybe working hard doesn't get results when it comes to exercise. And I want to be really clear. The ability to work hard is necessary for you to get things done in the world. But working hard without the right tools is a fool's errand. And one of my companies, it's a franchise. We're about to be over about 30 locations signed. So we're opening across the country. It's called Upgrade Labs. You can go to ownandupgradelabs.com and open one in your neighborhood and we have the technology to do this it uses artificial intelligence and it causes you to move slower than you want and then way harder than you really really want to but only for 20 seconds and then here's the trick as soon as you're done you take some really deep breaths and it guides you with the ai to say breathe deeper and it brings your heart rate down so what your body really responds to is really strong stimulation like a tiger was going to catch you and then a feeling of safety and calm when you have enough minerals, you have enough nutrients.
13:34It says, oh, I guess I should improve my performance. But if you go to the spin class, okay, the tiger chased you on the first sprint and then you keep running and then you sprint again and you keep running and the body believes I'm being hunted and it doesn't get away. And if you're combining that with a low calorie diet, oh, there's a famine and I'm continuously hunted for an hour a day. No wonder it's not going to improve. It doesn't have any energy to improve it's just stressed so the precise dose of exercise it matters so much and the liberating thing you're gonna hate me for saying this so you notice i'm in better shape than before 20 minutes a week is my entire workout regimen and i'm like i'm doing all right you're stacked yeah that's epic man and you you said it beautifully on page 21 you said your body does not care how much time you do something hard it cares about how quickly you do something hard how hard it is and how quickly it returns to baseline there you go page 21 that is that is and that resonated with me a lot because and we'll talk about this later on i don't want to get into it now but you talk about this in the book as well why the infrared sauna and why cold plunges kind of ex that that explains exactly that process yes especially if you're doing both back and forth and you think they're getting in the cold for you're like oh i'd have to sit in there for a long time but it's actually how long is it uncomfortable for right that where it's actually working because you're saying once it becomes normalized once anything becomes normalized whether it's spin class whether it's sitting in the cold or whatever it may be it's now not having that effect it doesn't work in fact if you got in a in a normal warm bathtub and slowly cooled the water you would have no benefits from doing that and instead it's that you got in and it was a rapid drop in temperature and then you got out and the body warmed itself up again and it's teaching the body that it is safe to warm itself up and then it becomes better at creating heat if your body's better at creating heat it means your metabolism works better and so we've unpacked all of this using machine learning and artificial intelligence and today most people they buy gym memberships and they don't go there's 400 million dollars a year of ghost memberships where people pay and never show up because well if i have the membership i might show up but the lazy impulse of the body wins because the gym doesn't have a good return on investment of your time and i'm not saying you shouldn't work out no i know yeah and if you go to the gym awesome i enjoy that as well but i'd frankly rather go to a yoga class in my spare time and then you can get the muscles in about three to five times less time than going into the gym, you get the cardio in, I don't know, 15 minutes versus five hours a week.
16:19I don't know the ratio there, but it's crazy. And it's much better cardio anyway. And so all of a sudden, you're saying, wait, I got my strength, I got my cardio. And that was what led me to create Upgrade Labs because people want to come in and do this. And what do you do with the extra time? Well, how about we train your brain with neurofeedback? How about we train your stress response so you can be more resilient when things are weird at work or at home or things like that? or how about we just make it so your body recovers better than it ever did and what we're dealing with now is a world full of stress and never any recovery time so let's use technology to handle the easy stuff like muscles and cardio and then let's take the extra save time to make our brains better and to make our stress handling better absolutely has changed my life have you got one in la upgrade labs there's one at the beverly hilton although that hotel is about to get renovated and there's one in santa monica underneath arnold schwarzenegger's office oh absolutely i need to go yeah i need to come in i didn't yeah this is i didn't realize that's awesome yeah in fact the first one opened eight years ago in santa monica i've been working on this for a long time before we decided to let anyone open a business right at upgrade labs and part of this is it's a global movement now biohacking it's a thing you go to latin america you go to japan it doesn't matter there's biohacking all over the world and it's expensive to build a million dollar lab like I did at my house with all this advanced tech.
17:39So what if we just made it available for everyone? That's awesome. I can't wait to check it out. All right, let's dive back in. There's a couple of things that you talk about. So we talked about laziness. One of the things that you talk about in the book is removing friction. So you have these six steps to energy success. And I'll let people get the book to dive into all of them. I don't want to go through everything. But you talk about removing friction. And I think when you dive into that, I was like, that's the right word. Like it's friction that we experience. What are some of the steps or some of the highlights that you see of like removing friction?
18:09What does that look like? When you think about something that you want to do, oftentimes it's the little things that feel really big because your body's creating resistance. It's like, don't waste energy. There might be a famine. Don't waste energy. So if you can't find your gym shoes, right? Because you're not organized, right? And there's a lot of things that we do that make it so that there's many steps and each step is a decision. So you remove decisions to make it really easy. And a big source of friction is you wanted to do it. You went to the gym and you didn't get results. One of the things that's holding you back is that either you're exposing yourself to toxins that lower your testosterone, things like extra plastic, BPA, or you're just lacking minerals.
18:52And right now we have an epidemic of people who just don't have enough minerals. Our food used to be full of minerals because our soil was full of minerals. We've been kind of strip farming the land. So even if you're eating plants that are supposed to be high in iron, they're probably not because the soil doesn't have iron anymore. And when you get enough minerals in the body, then you send a signal through your exercise that says, hey, improve. The body says, well, I wanted to improve, but I have this big sticking point. I don't have enough zinc and copper. I can't improve. So then you just feel stress.
19:25So one of the things that's really helped me lean out is I focus very heavily on my mineral intake. They're the least sexy supplements on earth. And to make minerals go where they're supposed to go, we need something called vitamin Dake. And you can go to vitamindake.com and it's there. It's about 20 bucks a month for what it takes to do this. It's a combination of vitamin D, vitamin A, vitamin K, and a special form of vitamin E. And those things, when you take those in combination with a broad spectrum mineral supplement on the same site, your body suddenly has the power to build bones and to build muscle and make energy and your focus can improve and then i put the trace minerals that are just broadly lacking for all of us in my new coffee brand called danger coffee so the idea is it's easy you're doing coffee every day probably anyway and you end up going wow something different it feels different than this and it's called danger coffee by the way you're gonna like this because who knows what you might do you know you might finally ask that girl out you might start a company you might start a podcast the idea is i love that you can handle it now because you've got the energy and minerals are the key and why are the minerals you talked about this like we always talk about supplements yeah talk about vitamins we don't hear about minerals as much and you make that point in the book are those the four minerals that you're saying the d a k and special form of e like those are the those are vitamins yes they're the fat soluble vitamins and each of those directs minerals to go to the right place in the body.
20:54And in the minerals, there's macrominerals, things like magnesium and potassium. And there's trace minerals like zinc and copper and manganese. And then there's ultra trace minerals that are present in Earth's crust and you need a little bit of those. So there's, in the coffee, there's 54 different kinds of minerals at super tiny traces. And in the supplements you take, it's three pills to get enough minerals, just enough minerals in your day. That's why one pill thing that has vitamins and minerals, There's not enough of anything in that. And when you do that, those are the first two most important foundational and affordable supplements that you need to take before you do B vitamins.
21:31And I've formulated nootropics and advanced anti-aging longevity things. I love doing that. And I take those too. But the last thing I would ever stop taking would be vitamin Dake and minerals 101 because they're foundational to everything else your body does, whether it's meditating better, whether it's running faster, whether it's thinking better or just staying calm in a stressful situation without minerals your body cannot do what it's trying to do yeah no i couldn't agree with you more i've definitely we've talked about this before and i've definitely had periods in my life where i was so low on minerals or vitamins of course which are then impacting the minerals where i'm like wait a minute i'm sleeping right i'm working out i'm eating right like what is going on and so often i think we make it a mental challenge where we're like oh maybe i'm dealing with something and actually what you realize is your body's just not dealing with stress well and now it makes it feel like everything's mental when it's actually biological and chemical uh you said it so my body's not dealing with stress right now i believe that half and maybe 70 percent of the emotional stress that we feel on a daily basis it comes from our body being malnourished yes i agree yeah and then it feels like i've experienced that okay you have so me too and it feels like it's your mother-in-law or your boss or like like it's someone else's fault or maybe it's you and your mind is running in circles.
22:50Well, when the body feels like, okay, there's not a famine, I've got everything I need. All of a sudden things that felt like Everest, oh, that's just a foot. I could walk up that, no problem. And to create a feeling of peace in your tissues and then do the hard work on the mental and spiritual aspects of meditation, it's a lot easier to work on those when your body's working. But if you're constantly feeling that what your body's telling you, because it's hungry, is you and it's a flaw or it's something to work on, you can spend your entire life trying to deal with your emotions, not knowing that it's what's on your plate that's causing them.
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26:04like for everyone who's listening and watching the book goes into depth into exactly the minerals exactly the vitamins you need like i want you to know that the book's giving you a breakdown and so make sure you grab the book so that you actually get all the insights i just want to give you the breadth of the insight that dave has so that you're like oh wait a minute i need to work on that i need to work on that uh something you talk a lot about is picking a target area and tracking it and you talk about these core target areas you talk about strength cardiovascular fitness energy metabolism, brain function, and stress resistance.
26:35And I found that that's probably our biggest mistake when it comes to our health is we either are measuring nothing or we're trying to measure everything. You nailed it. Right? Where should one start? How does one, I guess, intuitively or data-wise know what they are missing right now? Because I feel like most of us don't know. Most of us live quite unconsciously and we may be feeling a bit tired. We may be feeling a bit of body pain, but we're not really that aware of what the challenges and what we need. I have a lot of data on this because we ask people this when they come into every labs. And that was one of the things that inspired me to structure the book this way.
27:14And it's kind of funny. The only people on earth who are going to say when they wake up in the morning, the first thing they want, I want to be healthy today. There are people who are like me. When I weighed 300 pounds, I had chronic fatigue syndrome and arthritis and massive brain fog. And I was a wreck. So being healthy was a top priority for me. And you might get there when you're 75 as well. I just wish I was healthy. But when we're reasonably healthy, health is number 17 on the honey-do list. I want it. And what's really motivating us, oftentimes from our body, is we want to be powerful. We want to be energetic.
27:49We want love in our life. And those things, they trump health. So health never gets enough priority. And what does health even mean? Most people can't tell you. So I broke it down into those five or six categories. And okay, what are you going to work on first? And every person is individual. So where are you today? And then what's your first goal? And everyone says, well, I want all of those, but pick one. And in fact, I encourage you in the book to pick two and really think about it. And when people come in, we actually use a conjoint analysis survey. And we go through data to help you figure out your goals.
28:26But in the book, I teach you how to do it. So if your first goal is you know what I noticed that i'm i'm weak I I can't hold on to things like my grip strength is gone. I don't have the muscles. I want okay So you're going to focus on muscle first Or like a lot of people i'm stressed all the time and my brain doesn't work I'm going to focus on my brain first So then you go to the section of the book on brain and I list all the technologies and techniques whether they're free or cost a couple hundred bucks or cost thousands of dollars That work really well to bring your brain back online And when you do that, your muscles will work a little bit better as a side effect, right?
29:00So maybe that was it. First, I want my brain. Then I want my muscles. But someone else could be totally different in their desires. I want to be able to run a marathon. I just need the endurance to walk up the stairs because I can't take care of my kids. Stuff like that happens all the time. So you go through the book and say, okay, this is my goal. And then there's a variety of technologies that will support that. And some of them, I say technologies, they're just techniques. And if it's muscles, picking up rocks is the entire history of building muscles for humans. We concentrate the rocks into kettlebells now, but they're still rocks.
29:30And then for endurance, it's run away from tigers. Like you could run away from a slow tiger or a fast tiger. And that's all of exercise. Well, with machine learning and AI, we are doubling the amount of knowledge of biology that we have every 73 days. there's so much magic happening right now that you can use this new knowledge that your doctor is probably never going to know and you can use that to say oh i can do this in a lot less time so then you get your muscles back and your brain works better you get your brain back and then you have the energy to do the muscle work or to do the endurance work and then say okay i'm going to work on these stress management techniques and you have so much wisdom that you've offered people on dealing with stress and the meditation side of things.
30:14And there's a couple chapters towards the end of the book where I talk about, you know, spiritual hacking, which on its face is a bit offensive. I admit it, but no, I knew it came from a good place. It did. And the idea here is, is what would have happened in Tibet or in India or Nepal or a place like that is okay. We have a cave and you can go to the cave and 20 years later, you're going to be enlightened. and you could call that fast path. But most of us have other things that we want to do. So how do we get the maximum amount of meditation benefit per minute? Like hurry, meditate faster. It's an oxymoron, except if you can say, well, I'm going to do breath work with my meditation, and studies show that your brain gets into these states more quickly, then maybe you should consider finding the kind of breath work that works for your body.
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31:09because for every 10 minutes of work you do, you might get into the state faster. And for some people say, well, that's not okay. The Dalai Lama years ago offered a$100 ,000 reward to neuroscientists who could help him get into a special esoteric state. He says, it takes me four hours of meditation to get there. And I don't have four hours. If you can get me there in an hour, I'll pay you$100 ,000. Okay. This is possible today. I run a neuroscience clinic called 40 Years of Zen. And in five days people have the brainwaves of someone who spent 20 years in the cave And i've spent six months of my life with the electrodes glued to my head Meditating every day with a computer teaching me how to not do it wrong And for me that was faster, but I also did five years of art of living Breath work every single morning because I found it worked better than just sitting and meditating Which I also did every morning and I want people to understand Any of those approaches is better than not doing it and you've got to find the one that works for you.
32:07And there's a list of exercises in here, including the reset process, which is one of the most important things I teach. Can you walk us through that? The reset process is something that I pioneered with the neuroscience practice because you can measure when it works and what you do and the whole recipes and the book for it. But what you're doing is you're finding something that is a trigger for you. And I want to be really straightforward. If you can be triggered, it means you're walking around with a loaded gun you need to unload the gun it's not everyone else's job to not make you shoot them it's your job to say i'm not carrying a weapon anymore and so you find something that triggers you and you sit and you think about that feeling and it's usually something will pop into your head you were bullied uh something a parent said someone cut you off in traffic it doesn't really matter something's gonna pop in your head say okay i'm gonna run the reset process on that so you sit the person who made you angry down across from you in your mind's eye yeah visually in your also in your mind's eye you imagine some sort of uh infallible deity some people use god or jesus or buddha or you know any of the deities that you like or it could just be you know a a light bulb that's always right it it doesn't matter but this is your your double checking thing and then you sit there and you actually say you did this and it made me feel this way.
33:29And then you tap into how bad you felt and you actually turn on the bad feeling. You're like, what? You want me to actually, yes, I want you to feel it. And then once you're sure that you've really felt the bad feeling, you might have tears in your eyes. I mean, it might've been a big thing then. And this is the key that's missing from a lot, even of older literature. Before you work on letting it go, you have to find gratitude. So you find one thing. It doesn't matter how big of gratitude is you just need a spark of gratitude and say oh here's one good thing that happened and all of a sudden that flips a switch in your brain and then you can step into the f word called forgiveness and forgiveness like hey depends on everyone's mind right yeah and the reason i call it the f word is a lot of people i'm not going to forgive that person they wronged me you don't have to tell them you forgive them this is just you unloading the weapon this is you no longer being triggered right and then you look at it from the other person's point of view and you realize maybe their mom was mean to them you know maybe they didn't know maybe the guy who cut you off in traffic was on the way to the hospital to see his daughter being born you just don't know right and you start looking at that all of a sudden because you did gratitude first you feel your heart open and you go oh my gosh and when you're done and sometimes it takes neuroscience or a facilitator or some coaching but when you're done you can look at someone who wronged you greatly and all you feel is peace and love and you can no longer be triggered.
35:02This is very important because what we normally learn to do is to say, well, I know that every time this situation comes up, I'm going to feel triggered. I'm going to notice that I'm triggered and then I'm going to take a deep breath and I'm going to choose to behave like an adult. Hallelujah for doing that. We all need to do more of that. It's just biologically expensive because it takes a lot of effort and time and focus. what if there was no trigger so the reset process lets you turn this off at a very deep and profound level and when you're done you can look at your greatest enemy and you can say i love you i forgive you we are one and you are done for the rest of your life with that trauma and i have done this on every single trauma that's ever happened i've had a very successful conscious uncoupling in the last two years i had an employee embezzle money i've had people try to ruin my reputation all of it around the reset process on it.
35:52And I'm absolutely at peace with it. And to be able to get there running, I mean, you run at a very big level. So do I. And the amount of stuff that comes at us, no one's ever going to know is an enormous thing when you're leading millions of people and making the world a better place. And to be able to do that without the constant stress and the constant tension and the constant questioning in your mind, that all comes from unresolved forgiveness. So the reset process in the book is how do you get there most quickly? And you may say, I don't want to do that. That sounds awful. Do some EMDR. That's another way to get to a similar state.
36:29But this process is so powerful and it leads you to amazing spiritual states where you no longer are carrying a grudge because I mean, smarter, not harder, the power of laziness, how expensive is it for you spiritually at a soul level to carry a grudge against someone who wronged you for the rest of your life. Life is too precious to waste it that way. And this is the fastest way I've found for people to learn how to let go of something. And I put it in a book. You say, well, I thought that was about exercise or biohacking. Look, the biggest thing you can do and the hardest thing you can do is to let go of something that your body is holding onto because it thinks it's keeping you safe.
37:08And I thought it was just worthy of including in the book. That's what I mean by spiritual hacking. Find the technique that lets you fully let go of something so that you can be present with your family, with your friends, with your loved one, and then you can be present for your mission or maybe you can find your mission and your purpose. Yeah, I think it's so well said. I'm so glad you included it because I think for the sake of simplicity, we talk about our body, our mind, our soul or spirit or whatever we call it. But the truth is that it's so interconnected in that, as you were saying, if you can't let go of an emotional disconnect or a misalignment, chances are that's going to lead to your eating habits and then that eating habit is going to link back to a lack of that spiritual cleansing or detoxing or whatever that may be so we're kind of just stuck in this vicious cycle and i i wanted to talk to you about that because using that spiritual hacking the other way and going what are some of the blocks that are created physically because of the lack of letting go what are some of the habits that you've seen develop physically in our diet, in our, you know, in our physical practices because of a lack of that.
38:16I believe that every cell in your body has its own small consciousness. And even inside the cells, the mitochondria, each of them is an ancient bacteria and ancient bacteria have a consciousness. It's a pretty slow, dumb consciousness. Actually, it's a very fast consciousness, but it's, it doesn't have much awareness. But when you have billions, actually for those things, almost trillions inside the body, they function as a distributed consciousness for your meat, for your hardware. And they're just trying to keep the petri dish alive. And they think you're a petri dish. And you realize that they're storing traumas.
38:51And when you do this really deep forgiveness work, you're causing the body to relax and you're causing the body to feel safe at a cellular level. And when a cell feels safe, it will expand and grow and thrive and it'll maintain itself. And when a cell feels like the environment around it is hostile, whether it's because of self-hate or whether it's because of a lack of nutrients or because you're over-exercising or under-exercising, then they don't feel safe and then they don't do their job right. So when your body is in that place, your energy field gets bigger and stronger. And we can even measure that at the neuroscience clinic.
39:30We measure brain voltage and people will increase their brain voltage. And when that happens, suddenly that injury that you've had that won't heal, it heals. The cancer that you have can shrink just from doing meditation, right? Because if there's conscious or unconscious loathing around a part of your body, like, oh, you don't like your love handles, right? They're probably not going to go away. In fact, they'll probably get bigger, right? Because they don't feel safe. So this deep loving of your body, of your tissues. And I was working with a teenager recently and she said, you know, some of my friends don't like their bodies.
40:12Very common occurrence. Yeah. And they think they're fat or they think they're thin or they don't like their nose or whatever. And she said, I thought about it a lot. And I realized I really like my body because it can do all these amazing things. And I was like, that is the most enlightened cool thing I've ever heard from a teenager. Right. Because if you have that self-love for your tissues, even if they're not working right. And I say this as a guy who was 300 pounds with like arthritis and a knee that I couldn't trust because it would just like, it would just fold in the middle of walking.
40:43I would fall over. Like I was such a wreck. And to be able to go through and forgive yourself, that's actually the hardest forgiveness. And you can run the reset process on a part of your body that you have an issue with. You can run the reset process on your entire body and the feelings of not being enough, not being good enough. All of those things you can just let go of. So you're just at peace and things are as they are. And you don't have to have an emotional reaction to everything. And that allows you to have so much more energy for your spirit. When that spiritual lacking is draining all your energy, you don't have the energy to pick the right foods and to do the workout and to put into your creative processes.
41:23or creative endeavors that you have going on. And I want to dive into a couple of things, which I thought really, I'm glad you talked about this in the book, because I think the challenges, as we know with health and wellness, there's always a new fad, a new trend, a new kind of thing that comes up and everyone gets behind it. And then afterwards, a few years later, we realized that there was more research to it. I think one of those big areas is around, there's two areas in the book that you'd cover really well that I want to dive into. One is around where we get our protein. We know protein's important.
41:55I mean, remind us how much protein we need to get every day, like good protein. You need between 0.8 and one gram of protein per pound of body weight. So I weigh 200 pounds and I'm about 7 % body fat. And that means I need about 200 grams of protein a day. 7 % body fat? Yeah, it's ridiculous. Yeah. As a guy who is the fat computer hacker from the first Jurassic Park, it's totally ridiculous. was. And in order to do that, if you're obese, like I was, you might say, well, if I weighed 300 pounds, I had a hundred pounds of fat. You really only need 200 grams of protein. You can subtract the extra fat from the number, but 200 grams of protein.
42:30It's a lot. And protein isn't all the same. And this is something that the big food companies are trying to tell us, oh, cricket protein or gluten is protein. There's a company making keto cookies that are all protein. they're just gluten and canola oil that is not food so a while ago the story was oh all calories are the same so you can drink this you know high fructose corn syrup it's just calories as long as you keep your calories low you can drink a diet coke and a snickers bar they cancel each other's out it doesn't work like that protein's the same way so different proteins send different signals to the body and there's something called amino acid availability score and it turns out that animal proteins score much higher than plant-based proteins.
43:12And I say this as a former vegan, a former raw vegan, and you just cannot get enough protein from plants unless you're doing heavy industrial processing of the plants. And that comes at a cost. But even then, the highest quality plant-based protein powders don't hold a candle to dairy protein, which is vegetarian, or egg protein, which is a vegetarian, or sort of the king of proteins is beef or buffalo or bison. As a vegan, I had a problem with this because I was a vegan. I was in Tibet at a monastery, and Tibetan monks love to argue. They're trained since they're about eight years old, or they have an eight-year-old sitting on the ground surrounded by older kids standing up, all arguing at the same time, doing these like aggressive things.
43:59And it's to teach you to be calm in the face of arguments so that you can still be at peace. And it's beautiful to watch. So I knew this. And so I'm kind of teasing the head llama. I said, well, you tell me no killing, but you have a yak skin on your prayer pole. So I think you're a hypocrite. And he starts laughing and he looks at me, he goes, one death feeds everyone. I'm like, mind blown. Cause I had been a vegan until I went to Tibet. And I realized I cannot be a vegan in Tibet because there's just very little food. And if there's, you know, some yak butter tea, or there's, you know, a little bit of meat, you just eat it because there's just not enough food.
44:34So I really thought about it. And that led me to think about deaths per calorie. And as a guy has built a regenerative farm on Vancouver Island and raised all of my own animals for most of the last eight years, I will tell you that a cow will feed you for an entire year. And if it's grass fed and from a local farmer, no other animal died unless the cow stepped on a frog. I mean, it is literally one death. And if the cow was treated with respect and ethically, then you're killing fewer animals than an industrial plant protein. Because when they do those, the tractor comes through and it chops up every creature that's there, including the bunnies and the mice and the butterflies and all the ugly ones like worms that no one likes that are important for life.
45:17So I feel really clean about it. But the most important thing that I can say if you choose to eat animal protein, which I do, is that practice gratitude before you eat. I believe because of my shamanic training, because of all the spiritual work that I do, that humans, our energetic field as a species, made a sacred agreement with the animals that we've domesticated. And they come here to nourish us in exchange for our gratitude. So if you're going to eat meat, you practice gratitude because that's the deal we made. And if you disrespect the animal and you're eating industrial meat and you're eating it with mindlessly, I don't think that's a good practice, but I do think it's ethical to eat meat because I'm killing fewer lives when I eat beef than when I eat plant-based protein.
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48:25It's the little moment. These are our moments to laugh, learn, and exhale. So join me every Monday and let's find the bright side together. Listen to the bright side on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. But even in some animal protein you are recommending, and we'll talk about the plant proteins as well, but some of the animal proteins you were saying are not as strong and reliable. I believe you mentioned chicken, turkey. I think there were a couple of others in the book that I saw. Birds are not that, they're not dinosaurs. So they're less like us. And the fat that's present in birds is similar to soybean oil.
49:01It's a lot of omega-6 that causes inflammation. And you would know this. If you're in India and you're not feeling well, your grandmother's going to give you white rice and ghee, which is clarified butter. In the U.S., you get saltines and margarine or something, and it doesn't work very well. But the reason is that ghee, that saturated fat, is very nourishing for you and that you actually need that. You don't get it from a chicken. And also, one chicken, to get the amount of protein, I'd eat a chicken a day. I'm killing 365 chickens a year. That doesn't feel very good. In addition to that, real chickens, the kind that I grow on my farm, take nine months to mature.
49:37And their fat is rich and yellow and full of vitamins, even though it's not the best kind of fat. But the chickens they're eating at the store take six weeks to get that big because they've been modified in bread to have these incredibly large breasts. And they're terribly mistreated. So unless a chicken is pasture-raised and a heritage breed, at which point it's not affordable. They're terribly expensive to raise. Chickens exist to make eggs. eggs if you're not allergic are really a good source of fat and protein and when you eat eggs you want to cook the whites and leave the yolk runny and then you get the most nutrients that way we talked about the plant protein from a ethical standpoint but but even from a nutritional standpoint i mean i as so me and my wife are both plant-based but plant protein is like not a big part of our diets at all my wife's like not into eating any of the burgers or any of the meats so it's probably a good meat is not good yeah it's yeah explain why because i think that's slightly the challenge for a lot of people who try and make that switch and i feel everyone who turns to that then goes back because yeah it's not satisfying are you plant-based to the exclusion of of dairy yes i am yeah me my wife we have been for years yeah and it's working for you and by though if you're from india you probably have the genes that are going to support that much better and so if you look at what your great grandmother ate that's going to be an indication of what you can handle and if you look at you your skin is really good and that's unusual when most people go vegan because they eat a lot of industrial processed seed oils yeah so if you're eating a diet that agrees with your body and i totally support doing that then what you want to do is you want to make sure that you're getting complete amino acids and you can do it from rice and beans but here's the issue to get enough protein it's definitely hard i'm i'm fully like i'm thinking about it a lot it's like 300 grams of carbs to get 20 grams of protein so then your best bet for plant-based proteins have the highest amino acid score it's actually hemp protein with the fat removed because hemp oil isn't particularly good for you so then what you end up doing is saying okay i'm going to do that and i feel good i've also helped a lot of um a lot of vegans in fact this is a david wolf's vegan conference i explained the virtues of ghee where no animals die to make ghee and ghee helps to escort the nutrients from plants into the body.
52:00So you make better use of the plants. So sometimes adding, you know, a tablespoon of ghee a day gives you like a healthier skin glow and it feels more nourishing and people can choose to do that or not choose to do that. And people get mad because I tease vegans. Dude, I was a vegan. Like it's teasing guys. It's not, it's not a disrespectful thing. It's in my case, it actually harmed me. And some things like spinach, kale, even raspberries and almonds are very high in oxalic acid, which I write about in the book. And it causes crystals to form. 70 % of kidney stones are from plant-based compounds, not from eating meat and beer.
52:3830 % are from meat and beer. And so you can overdo either direction, right? So I want people to say, choose the right plants when you're plant-based. And I would consider if I was plant-based adding hemp-based protein powder even though it is a processed food it's going to be a processed food that has the best amino acid score that you can get absolutely thank you so much very useful for everyone who's listening and I wanted to dive into drinking the wrong kind of milk because I think milk's been this you know there's obviously there's been the almond milks and the oat milks and then there's been debate on either side walk us through milk because I think like that's again I'd love to hear your side of it because again it's one of the I find all of this so confusing because you hear something new come out everyone gets behind it it works for people maybe it doesn't work stopping dairy milk from my diet helped me with my gut but i also don't drink a lot of uh oat milk or almond milk that's not really that's not really part of my diet i don't i don't have cereal and stuff like that so i'm not drinking that but then there's a lot of debate on that side of it as well there is a lot of debate yeah dairy milk has been a part of human food for at least 5 ,000 years.
53:48And it's a convenient way to not kill an animal and to have it continuously produce fat and protein, which are the hard things for humans to get enough of, because carbs are relatively abundant in nature. So what do you do? Well, normally you would just drink milk, but the milk we would drink was from a breed of cows that makes A2 milk and they ate grass. And that works well with our biology. The kind of milk that you get now is from cows that are bred to eat grain and and corn and soy and that milk has the wrong kind of fat and it has a kind of protein called a1 protein that's very inflammatory so a lot of people who can't drink milk which include me because it messes up my gut royally it just makes me it makes me stupid actually my brain swells up from it i get a lot of mucus i used to get throat like i used to get more throat infections like me too it's very similar so sometimes you can handle a2 milk but raw A2 milk is how we used to drink it.
54:41And in many States, it's still illegal. And why the government thinks it has a right to tell you what you're allowed to eat. I don't know. They don't have that right. So it doesn't matter if they make it illegal. They didn't have the right to make it illegal. So therefore it's not illegal in the world that I live in. Then again, if you're selling it, they might still try to arrest you. Then you got to go to court, but here's the deal. Raw milk for many people is very, very healing. And for some people, whey protein, especially if you're vegetarian, but not vegan, it's a source. Just get grass-fed whey protein because the animals are treated better and because it's a higher quality nutritional product.
55:14But let's assume you're not going to drink cow's milk because for a lot of people, it just doesn't work, including me. I don't touch it. Butter and ghee usually are acceptable, especially ghee won't trigger allergies and mucus like that for almost anyone. Well, what about the fake milks, right? So these are all industrial products unless you make it yourself. And what they figured out with almond milk was, oh, we can take leftover parts of almonds and the ones that are broken and unsightly. And we can use those to make milk. And it's just a few almonds and some canola oil and some high fructose corn syrup, some flavorings.
55:49And we blend it up and we sell it for like$8 as a health food product. It's not a health food product. So almond milk is high in phytic acid that sucks minerals out of your bones. You have to take more minerals. And it's also high in oxalates, which are the things that are causing kidney stones and things that are causing gout and joint pain when you wake up even if you have really bad skin and you're eating a ton of these high oxalate foods like almond milk and kale smoothies and all this can be why because it's making tiny razor sharp calcium oxalate crystals in your skin that are coming out so i don't recommend almond milk also if you're a vegan for animals the number of bees about a third of all bees die pollinating almonds every year.
56:30Like it is not a particularly clean product. So then we say, well, oat milk. Okay. That is the biggest scam on the planet right now. It raises your blood sugar as much as drinking a Coke. It is not a health food and it usually has glyphosate and it's high in phytic acid that sucks minerals out of your body. And I know you might not like hearing this, but do the math. There's a tablespoon of oats blended into a bunch of water and you spent six bucks on that? Like, are you dumb? Right. It's not a good move. Right. So what should you drink? There's two kinds of milk that are okay. One of them is macadamia milk, which is really expensive and you have to make it yourself because macadamias have the right kinds of oil in them.
57:12But the other one that's abundant and healthy is coconut milk. So if you're going to do it, use coconut milk. That's the worst tasting one. I know, right? Yeah. It is the worst tasting one. But here's the problem though. If you say, okay, I don't like the taste of coconut milk and I'm with you on that. So I'm going to drink any monks, but yes. Yeah. That's, that's really the key. You don't need to drink a plant milk. It's a made up product that you don't have a need for. But if you say, I'm going to do one of these other things, you're spending a lot of money. You're getting anti-nutrients, you're getting mostly water and you're usually getting a toxic burden.
57:45So like, why, why am I doing this again? The thing that milk has that's most important is it has protein. And the second most important is it has good fats. When you have a replacement milk, even coconut milk, there is no protein. So the coconut yogurt you like, it doesn't work because it doesn't have protein. So you have to take out an ad whey protein or add scoops of maybe hemp protein if you're doing plant-based, but you've got to add a whole bunch of protein to it because normal yogurt has that. most people tolerate grass-fed yogurt pretty well i still don't i can't touch cow's milk unless it's ghee for the most part or i could do some butter but if i was to have you know uh two tablespoons of regular milk it messes me up my gut's wrong it's just not right so that's an immune response so i just want to tell you you're not getting protein in your plant milks and you're getting stuff you don't want in your plant milks so just don't do it you've mentioned canola oil a few terms as well and i feel like oils has been obviously in the biohacking world it's it's been known for a while but i think it's finally coming into like the forefront of checking the back of something and going oh my gosh wow this is canola oil palm oil you know the millions of different oils walk us through that because i think that's kind of still for the majority of people like an under understood area like it's it's we're just not aware unaware is probably the right word like yeah we're unaware we've been taught first calories are what matter and it turns out well calories do entirely different things so we've tossed that out for most people have understood that's different and then we say okay well it's how much fat are you eating but who would imagine that different fats do different things in the body right oh my gosh you mean the kind of fat matters oh and different proteins so even saying fat carbs and protein it doesn't mean anything unless you know what it is so we zoom in on fat well it turns out omega-6 fats which is canola, corn, soybeans, safflower, even grapeseed oil, those are fats that when they enter the body, they slow your metabolism and they cause inflammation because they're unstable fats.
59:46They're called polyunsaturated fats. And when you eat saturated fats, things like coconut oil or butter or ghee or most animal fats from like sheep or something or from cows, but not from chickens, then you end up saying, oh, the saturated fats, they can't oxidize because they're stable. So you eat those and they stimulate your metabolism and they allow your body to make testosterone and to make other hormones that your body needs and to make stable cell membranes. So we understand the biochemistry of this, but the food companies are saying, well, it's cheaper to do canola oil. So let's fry our French fries in those.
1:00:24Canola oil and its cousins there, they're a major cause of diabetes and cancer, which are skyrocketing because they're unstable especially and they're heated a lot and they're pretty much in every packaged good they are but change is coming so before about the 1970s all french fries were made with beef tallow because it's a very stable oil that's fat from cows at mcdonald's that's what they use and then they switch to these seed oils and then all the diseases went through the roof so we have a problem food needs to be affordable for everyone one of the companies that I've invested in and that I'm backing that I'm most excited about is called Zero Acre Farms.
1:01:00And I don't work for them. I did put a small amount of money in them, but it's because of the mission. They found a way to use fermentation to make an oil that is monounsaturated like olive oil that is stable for frying at 25 % the cost of canola oil for a restaurant. And they're scaling up to get to that price point. But what it's called Zero Acre because it'll remove millions of acres of corn and soy from being grown to squeeze oil out of them. And they can take sugar cane, just the entire sugar cane, not sugar, and they can ferment it and make a healthy edible oil for humans. And this is going to change the world's metabolism.
1:01:37It's a huge thing. So in the meantime, you can go to a place that has duck fat fries or tallow fries, which you wouldn't eat, or you don't eat fries. Don't eat fried food at restaurants is a great rule to live longer and don't eat the salad dressing either. Tell them I want real olive oil that's not cut with canola oil and i want vinegar or lemon juice and you do that just those two things nothing fried and do that and all of a sudden you find you lose weight your brain is focused your body makes more hormones it's that big of a deal i'm so glad you raised that because that's the it's it's it's such a tiny simple change but it could save you from so many different things like i switched probably might have been a year now but i traveled a lot this year on tour and that was hard because my diet on tour was not as easy to maintain because i was in different cities every day and and i didn't have a chef who was traveling with me or anything like that and when i'm back here i've been eating like a whole foods diet only eating plants not eating anything out of packages oh yeah you know not eating pretty much no packaged food whatsoever maybe now and again and like that in and of itself has transformed i used to love a bag of chips right even if they were like the healthiest chips that I could possibly find.
1:02:45I love a bag of chips. I love, you know, I love a little bit of crackers, biscuits, whatever, any of this kind of stuff, knickknacks. And just taking out packaged foods has had a massive impact on how I feel. It's kind of life-changing to do that. And I realized I missed an oil that should get a shout out. It's palm oil. So palm oil is saturated and I would much rather eat something cooked in palm oil than canola oil the issue with palm oil is mostly environmental so there's deforestation and orangutans and things like that but if you are at the store and you want to buy some chips or crisps or whatever yeah crisps is what i would have called it i've adapted bag of chips we'd call it a bag of crisps back in london yes so you want to eat those look for something that's cooked in coconut oil or palm oil and when you do that you're going to be much healthier and they're going to taste better and they're going to be more satisfying because when you eat those bad oils the omega-6 oils they make you hungry really quickly because your body says i gotta deal with all this inflammation have some sugar so all of a sudden you ate a chip that felt good and i don't generally eat stuff like that maybe at a barbecue or something i'll bring a bag of those because of course yeah i'm not perfect yeah and dave i want to thank you for doing all this research because you know as as i've got older and i'm 36 now and as i get older every single year my health goes up and up and up on the priority list and i think for me it's been so challenging because i grew up i would say with no health education right i'm benefited by having a wife who's very disciplined and focused and understands more i'm grateful to have my podcast where i get to sit down with incredible people like you and i get introduced to books like yours that i have over the years on longevity and now smarter not harder and to me i'm just like i want to get this right to make getting older easier right like to get make getting older like your goals your goals suck oh sorry that's a bad goal i want to make i want to make getting older easier how about i want to stop getting old that i want to stay how i am now or better every single year i want to be better there you go let's do that it's isn't that a different vision it feels different definitely We have it so built in that we're going to get old.
1:05:00We are living in a world today where you can measure as 20 years younger than your calendar age. I want that. I want that. You don't have to get old. Right. You might age, but the getting old thing, that's what we did in the 70s. Yeah, it made me happy. I've been playing a lot of pickleball and that's been like my form of exercise that I love and I enjoy. And it's start and stop. It's fast. It's competitive. I love every part of it. and i just got beat by a 70 year old a couple of weeks ago and i loved it because i i just i was like i want to be like you and i was like it's so inspiring he destroyed me one person can do that yeah and and that brings up something that that's actually really important yeah please learning from our elders the reason i can do all this biohacking is i was so desperate for my health in my 20s i started running an anti-aging longevity non-profit group near stanford university so i was learning how to maintain my health from people in their 80s who could run circles around me like that's possible i saw it and i saw it in the 90s and if they could do it back then we can do so much better now thank you for calling me out on that that's good i like it you're welcome you're allowed to yeah i like that that's awesome i learned from my elders you learned from the guy on the pickleball court you can be that guy when you're 70 yeah and what's really going to happen when you're 70 is you can be that guy but look and feel like you do now yeah and we're building this world for all of us.
1:06:21And it's really important because the birth rate in all developed nations is so low right now. We're not replacing our population, which means it's our job to be strong and young forever. Well said. Well said. The book is called Smarter Not Harder by Dave Asprey, The Biohacker's Guide to Getting the Body and Mind You Want. I highly, highly recommend that you grab a copy of this book. We have just skimmed over some of the things that I found interesting, some of the things that I felt were front of mind for me. I know a lot of you have been asking questions about these things. I see tons of videos on TikTok sharing all sorts of advice.
1:06:52I felt it was great to dive into it with Dave. Please go and grab a copy. Go and read it with your friends. Figure out that one thing that you're going to focus on. Remember, you don't need to try and do all of this. Pick that one area that you want to solve, master it, move on to the next. I promise you that as much as it sounds hard and complicated and difficult, once you start seeing a win in one area it's going to have that domino effect so go and grab it dave thank you so much for always coming on and being such a you're such a you are you are an elder truly but you don't look like one you know you know you don't you don't feel like one which is amazing and i'm very grateful that i get to have these conversations with you because i always come away more inspired and uplifted and my goals get bigger and bolder and better so i'm glad that you're not letting me settle so thank you for not letting me settle i appreciate it you're so welcome i mean it i mean I appreciate your work so much.
1:07:43You are inspiring millions of people to be better. And I see it every day online. And you're doing such amazing work. So true appreciation. Well, thank you. Thank you, David. If you love this episode, you'll love my interview with Dr. Gabor Mate on understanding your trauma and how to heal emotional wounds to start moving on from the past. Everything in nature grows only where it's vulnerable. So a tree doesn't grow where it's hard and thick, does it? It grows where it's soft and green and vulnerable. There's a lot of talk about mindfulness these days, which is fantastic. I mean, we all want to be more present and self-aware, more patient, less judgmental.
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From the publisher
What if there is a way to help reduce aging?
What if it is something you can do on your own and make it a daily habit?
There is a way and today’s guest will offer insights about aging and managing emotional stress.
Today, we welcome back Dave Asprey, the founder of Upgrade Labs and known as the 'Father of Biohacking'. He Is a four-time New York Times bestselling science author, host of the Webby award-winning podcast The Human Upgrade.
Dave shares the science behind the concept of biological age and how to calculate it, shedding light on the surprising power of laziness and how working hard without the right tools might not yield the results you desire. Dave also exposes the secrets to optimizing your metabolism, upgrading your body with cutting-edge technology at places like Upgrade Labs, and boosting your mineral intake for better overall health.
We also get to learn the connection between a malnourished body and emotional stress and why staying healthy often takes a backseat in our busy lives. Learn the art of maximizing the benefits of meditation and how to reset your body, paving the way for holistic healing. Plus, get the lowdown on protein needs, the truth about chicken products, the merits of a plant-based diet, and various types of milk and their unique benefits.
In this interview, you’ll learn:
How to exercise effectively
How to eat right to avoid inflammation
How physical health affects emotional health
How to reset your body for better performance
The foods that are causing inflammation
How much protein the body needs
How to stay healthy
How to age without feeling old
This episode is packed with valuable insights on how to prioritize your health and well-being, so you can truly live your best, youthful life.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
What We Discuss:
01:03 Introduction
03:34 Figure Out How Old You REALLY Are
04:33 Laziness Can HELP You?!
07:21 How To Hack Your Body
08:47 Exercise Less & Be Healthier
11:24 How The Metabolism REALLY Works
14:10 Your Health Is Missing THIS
16:58 Vitamins & Minerals You Need
19:42 Figure Out What You’re Missing
23:06 Secrets To Becoming Fitter
26:01 The Reset Process
28:06 Why Forgiveness Is So Important
31:14 You NEED To Let Go- Or Else
34:40 How Much Protein Do You Need?
37:40 The Truth About Veganism
40:10 Which Protein Source Is Best?
42:16 The Role Of Genetics In Diet
44:30 What Kind Of Milk Should You Drink?
50:11 The Truth About Oils
53:50 Should You Eat Palm Oil?
55:36 How To STOP Aging
58:02 Conclusion
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