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25:07They're sleeping through the night. You know, they have more energy, they have less pain, but their health condition really hasn't changed from an objective standpoint. Their values, their blood values, their scans are still the same. Okay. Now I got to get really good at doing it with my eyes open. How am I going to be in my day? One hour of a good meditation or 40 minutes of a good meditation. And the rest of my day, I'm unconscious and I'm in a program and I'm reacting. Okay, how am I going to be with my coworker? How am I going to be with my ex? How am I going to be with my partner, with my children?

25:37What would greatness look like? What would love do? And if you could close your eyes and mentally rehearse what you're going to do, there's such great research on mental rehearsal. Keep doing it enough times and rehearsing it. The brain cannot distinguish between what you're imagining in the real life event. In other words, if you do it enough times, your brain will look like you already did it. Your brain will look like the experience has already happened. You've primed your brain for the act. I got to remember to act this way. And then could I teach my body emotionally what my future will feel like before it happens?

26:12Now that goes so against how we've been programmed, right? Because we need a reason for gratitude. We need a reason for joy, right? And what we're saying is, is that if you can teach your body emotionally what that future will feel like and remember to feel that way, Remember to feel that way. And it's usually very heart centered emotion, right? If a person can get out of all those survival emotions and all those stress emotions, and there's always a thousand reasons why they shouldn't justify it or not. The only person that's hurting is themselves, right? Yeah. Okay. So I, now I know that those, those, the long-term effects of those hormones are going to push the genetic buttons and create disease.

26:48I got to maintain this emotional state. I got to stay relaxed in my heart, my entire day to day. And we remember to feel this way. And the word meditation literally means to become familiar with, become really familiar with an old self. So you don't go unconscious and become really familiar with a new self. So a practice would be, okay, if I do this really well and I do it and maybe it doesn't, nothing changes for the first day or the second, let me just go for two weeks. I'm just going to work on change. I mean, how many times do we have to forget until we stop forgetting and start remembering, right?

27:21That's the moment of change. We default, we go unconscious so many times, but the brain learns by mistakes. If you get serious enough, you're going to make a lot less of those choices again, right? If I truly do this well, then there should be some effects in my life. And then when the synchronicities and the opportunities and the coincidences and the serendipities and the simultaneity of events start occurring, you start realizing, oh my God, I'm not the victim of my life any longer. I'm in fact the creator of my life because that novel experience, the opportunity is telling you, oh my God, like, did I create that?

27:57And that's what causes people to become inspired to do it again. So the experiment is, if I change, can my life change?

28:06Jay Shetty:As I'm listening to you, I want people to think about it like learning a new language. So if I'm learning a new language, I may practice it for one hour. But if I really want to make it my new reality, I have to talk in that language all day long. And now I'm hearing words in that language, I'm translating in that language, I'm connecting with people in that language. And all of a sudden, I'm now speaking this new language, because I think when people hear about changing their beliefs and changing their thoughts, they think it's some wishy-washy, fluffy, ethereal idea. But the truth is anything you're learning, it's like learning a new script.

28:37Jay Shetty:You're learning a new script for your mind. You're learning a new script for who you want to be, the script of the actor or the role that you want to play in the world. A lot of people today are worried about grieving their past self. So there's a sense that you want to move or you need to change, but actually you liked a lot about your last self. It just doesn't serve you anymore. So how do you, how do you breathe? Look, I mean, I'm, I never want to say leave everything behind. Everybody has great habits and great skills. Everybody's done something great in their life once, you know, what we do know is that when you go from the old self to the new self, there's a gap and you have to kind of cross this river and that space is the unknown because the moment you decide to make a different choice and you feel uncomfortable, you've stepped out of the familiar known and you're in the unknown.

29:28And if the body has been conditioned to be the mind, that's when you hear the assault of all the voices. Start tomorrow. It's too hard. You're never going to do it. It didn't work last time. Get a sit on the couch, watch it, you know, scroll, whatever, you know, feel this way. The body is telling you to go back to the familiar known. But if you're persistent, that discomfort is a dissonance that's taking place you're no longer firing and wiring the same circuits in the brain you're no longer making the same chemicals that are feeding your body or signaling the same genes there's this kind of this chaos that's taking place because the body is no mind are no longer working the same way right and this is where most people listen to the voice in their head and says that says start tomorrow and then they make the same choice and they do the same thing and they create the same experience and they feel the same emotion.

30:18They say, this feels right to me. No, that feels familiar. In a sense, the grief that we're feeling when we go from the old self to the new self is a neurological. It is a biological. It is a chemical. It is a genetic death of the old self. There's a withering away, right? And we're not asking people to white knuckle it. But then you'd have to agree with me that if you were in that place, the unknown, that is the perfect place to create from. If you can turn it around then and you can start deciding on how you do want to believe and how you do want to act and how you do want to feel, there's a period where the body is craving those chemicals just like an addiction.

30:58And if you just go past that point, you look back at your past and you see it in terms of everything you learned from it. It served you, right? And so I think it's always worth the effort. I think that people who finally cross the river and get to the other side, there's no grieving any longer. There's kind of like a triumph, right? There's a victory that takes place because they've broken through.

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34:39I mean, it's like drinking poison and asking, you know, for the other person to die, right? I mean, our response and our reaction is actually weakening the organism, right? Right. So so the second step, then once you realize that you could be victimized by that person or thing, the third step after that is to change it. Right. And what we discovered is if you take some deep breaths, you slow your breathing down, you move out of that aroused state. If you place your attention on your heart and you say, oh, I'm going to trade those emotions for a different emotion, we call it self-regulating. and I think when it's the hardest, it matters the most, right?

35:18Because anything past that's going to be easy, right? So there are tools that help us to move out of that sympathetic or fight or flight system into a different system. The other thing is that you get to this point when you're ruminating, right? You're thinking certain thoughts that are making certain chemicals that make you feel a certain way. The moment you're feeling a certain emotion, the brain checks in with the body and says you're really miserable and you start thinking more thoughts equal to how you're feeling, making more chemicals for you to feel the same way. And this cycle of thinking and feeling and feeling and thinking creates what we call a state of being, right?

35:53So anything that interrupts that process and there's meditations that we use for that, but it requires then a person being able to self-regulate, to catch themselves, to not blame anybody, to not make an excuse and say, okay, I'm going to move from one state of mind and body to another state of mind and body. Now, in the beginning, it may take you time to excuse yourself and to get into that state and come back out and you may lose it again. You might have to do that a series of times. But just like anything else, like you said, the more you practice it, the better you get at it. And I don't think it's bad to do that.

36:30I think the challenge is how long? How long are you going to do that for, right? Being able to break those patterns and interrupt those patterns. Breath is a big one. heart-centered focus, open focuses, or broadening our awareness. These are all things that create more order and coherence in the brain and body.

36:46Jay Shetty:What you're saying is that there's such a need for that pattern interruption because we get lost in these loops and patterns. For example, a lot of us wake up in the morning and the first thing we think is, I'm so tired. And then you have your morning coffee and it's 9am and you're thinking, I am still so tired. And then you get to midday and you think our lunch is going to be late. And then you have lunch at 2pm and you think, I am so tired. So you've had that thought multiple times already. And now you make it through to 6pm. You're thinking, oh, I've got to work a bit more. I'm so tired. And then somehow at 10.37pm, you click next episode and watch another show.

37:21Jay Shetty:And then you repeat the cycle again and again and again, because you didn't interrupt that pattern. And I think when you're saying becoming conscious of the thought, whether you're talking about being able to breathe through it, whether you're actually saying like, write it down. What's that thought that keeps coming back up for you? Let me become really conscious and cognizant of that. And now what I do is almost like, it's almost like this and, so it's like, I am tired and I'm going to cancel my weekend plans. Because now I'm able to actually make a shift and a change based on that thought. That thought is now data and useful rather than the thought of I'm tired loops to I'm exhausted loops to I'm overwhelmed loops to I'm burnt out over weeks, months, and years.

38:03Yeah. Yeah. No, it's exactly how it is. And, and again, like you, you can only talk around this. I mean, you have to be in the river. You have to be in the river because you're more conscious and you're more awake, even though it's uncomfortable when you're in the river of change. And it's kind of funny because you're looking around to see if anybody else is doing it. And, you know, you don't even know, but that kind of moment where you realize, oh God, no one, no one has the answers, but me, no one's going to come for me. I got to do this myself. I think when people like heal from a health condition, it's almost like their life depends on it, right?

38:37So they're really managing their attention and they're really managing their energy by staying conscious all the time, right? And I think you get better at it.

38:47Jay Shetty:Talking about 10.37 PM and clicking next episode, what's the one thing humans should stop doing before bed? Oh God, there's no doubt about it. Images and stimulation. Stop scrolling. I mean - What's it doing? Tell me what's happening. If we were to scan someone's brain or scan someone's heart rate, if they were doing that before they go to bed, what are we going to see? What's going to shock us? Yeah. So, so there's a problem with attention, right? You're, as you shorten your attention span and you consume information that's stimulating, you're going to, you're going to create a shorter attention span without a doubt.

39:19But the real problem is the release of dopamine. it's the rush of dopamine that's created from the stimulation and the images and the rush of dopamine is creates kind of this reward pleasure center in the brain we don't know that but it's kind of sublimating another disturbing emotion like emptiness or lack or fatigue or whatever we're conditioning ourselves to become dependent on something to regulate our emotional states but the pendulum swings the other way if you get 70 dumps of dopamine the body's not used to that kind of reward right and so the receptor sites on the cells can't tolerate that immense amount of dopamine so they they close down they become desensitized and now it requires more to turn it on the next time.

40:11So in a sense, we're starting to reset our pleasure centers, recalibrate them to a higher and higher level. So it's always going to take more to turn them on. Now, the problem is in the absence of that stimulation and you're not gaming or you're not scrolling or whatever, you can't find pleasure from anything because your reward centers have just been hijacked to such a high level and we experience this kind of adhedonia and i can see it normally in in young people you can just look at a person when they've been on their device a long time they're just glazed over they're overdosed you know and they've overdosed so when the pendulum swings the other way and you don't have that amount of dopamine it becomes a problem because anytime you start feeling an uncomfortable emotion you're not going to consciously know you're doing this but you're going to scroll now and you're going to become more dependent on the images and stimulation and so when it comes time to learn and learning should be a reward in and of itself a kid goes to school and and they can't learn this because they can't pay attention because their their their reward centers are out of balance and and i think in the long term when you face challenging problems in your life that you can't escape from.

41:32This could be a big issue in the future for a lot of people because you can't escape from something in your life and you need something outside of you to change your internal state. It's going to be difficult to change for people. What's the biggest transformation you've seen? Gosh, Jay, you know, my belief in what's possible in the last five years, maybe in the last two years, I would say, has changed so dramatically. I mean, I just, my belief in witnessing both the research that we've been doing in the last five or six years, we partnered with the University of California, San Diego, and Stanford and Harvard and some other schools, Johns Hopkins, and we're really interested in demystifying this process of change.

42:14So what we know from the research, this is insane, that at the end of seven days, people do not have the same face, The harmonicity of their voice is completely different. The language. Seven days. Seven days. Their language is completely different. Their brain. I could talk for hours about it. Their brain is completely different. It's more organized. It's more coherent. It's more orderly. Their heart works better. Thousands of metabolites are upregulated in their blood. Their gene expression is different. Their microbiome is different without changing their diet, without taking a probiotic, without restricting in any way, without any external substance.

42:57Their breath is different. Their breast milk is different. Everything changes. Their gait, their posture, everything changes when we change, right? So I think the research has been super fascinating, but the reason that we've been doing all this research really is because of the stories of transformation. The human in you may say, wow, that's really amazing, But the scientist usually says, if that happened, how did that happen? How did a stage four terminal cancer, metastatic that spread to organs and to bones in 10 weeks completely vanish? And the PET scan shows no evidence of cancer, right? So our envelope of what I believe is possible has been stretched to such a great degree.

43:44Here's an example. We had a woman that had colorectal cancer. She went for surgery and they physically cut out that part of her body. They cut out the colon and the rectum. And when you lose that area of your body, you kind of lose your dignity because you're kind of chained to a bathroom. So she had a bag, but she said that she couldn't go more than 10 feet from the toilet. That was her life, right? She got depressed. She couldn't sleep. And the doctors told her that it would, you know, she'd have to learn to live with it. And she just thought, maybe I could grow my colon back. So she lost nine centimeters of her colon.

44:23When she first started doing the meditations, she couldn't get through the first minute or two without having to go to the toilet. And then she started doing them on the toilet, and then she started practicing. And then after a period of time, she was able to go through a whole meditation without using the toilet, which is a win for a person like that. Then she started noticing that she was changing more, and she decided that she wanted to have the belief that she could grow her colon back. Now, I know that sounds insane. It was insane when I heard it as well. Long story short, she went on a two-year journey and came to a week-long retreat, went through every meditation, sat through every lecture without having to use the restroom.

45:10she went for a scan and she had grown five centimeters back no way it's not done out of the nine centimeters she lost and then came to another event and then got a got her final measurement and she grew 10 centimeters of her colon and rectum back and she lost nine in other words she regenerated tissue right now no the crazy part about this is i saw the tissue it wasn't scar tissue it wasn't feeble tissue it was brand new juvenile opalescent vascular fresh regenerated tissue she she regrew her rectum and colon back so i mean what does that mean like what does that mean it means that the human body has the innate capacity to regenerate itself at any age if it's given the right information now that's insane that's not how we've been programmed

46:05Jay Shetty:Yeah, I mean, everyone listening is like, really? But if you look at our data, if you look at our data and you look at all of the information that we're capturing in the plasma of meditators, there's factors in the plasma that cause a resistance to viruses. And like we wrote a paper about it, like you take an advanced meditator and you put the COVID virus, the SARS virus, in the presence of an ACE2 receptor and the virus can't enter the cell. There's some type of broad immunity that the meditator is making. We've isolated the protein that inhibits the virus from entering cell. Okay, so antiviral.

46:45if you take the plasma of an advanced meditator and you put it in the presence of a cancer cell any type of cancer cell 84 percent of advanced meditators carry factors in their blood that take 70 percent of the energy out of cancer cells and what do cancer cells like to do they like to move and multiply if you're taking energy out of a cancer cell my goodness is this is an anti-carcinogenic chemical we looked at 63 different diseases and every one of those diseases at the end of seven days had a dramatic reduction in pain and fatigue people had more energy and they had less pain independent of their disease one intervention and much less pain so when we decided to actually analyze the plasma of these meditators a hundred percent of the people that we measured were making their own endogenous opioids in other words natural pain relievers right the body's fabricating a pharmacy of chemicals that were not there at the beginning of the event they're not taking morphine but at the end of seven days they're manufacturing their own morphine where is that information coming from it's coming from within us right in the study that i was talking about earlier with um the default mode network that fmri study we found an area of the brain that actually grows in volume at the end of seven days in advanced meditators.

48:14So when we look at the plasma of these people, they have neurogenic and neurotrophic factors in their blood that are actually causing neurons to sprout, to flourish, to bloom. All of these chemicals that the body's manufacturing are pro-life and pro-growth. If we look at advanced meditators that go through a week-long retreat and we look at novice meditators that go through a week-long retreat, when we do the very sophisticated analysis for longevity, many of them add a year to the life. When we look at the controls that are vacationing at the hotel, we can tell you vacationing may not be good for you.

48:56They actually get older. right so there's something happening with these people by interacting and changing in the transformation process by combining a clear intention with an elevated emotion they're changing their state of being right and the body's so objective that the body's believing it's living in a new environment and it's it's it's nurturing itself it's growing right so we looked at a gene expression everybody has their own genotype your genotype is different than my genotype based on your race, based on your culture, based on your parents, based on your environment. Everybody has their own genotype and genes make proteins.

49:32At the end of seven days, 80 % of the population is expressing the same genes and making the same proteins. What does that mean? It means the flock, the herd, the tribe. There's an emergent consciousness that's being reflected in people's biology and everybody's evolving together. so something happens really magically when people come together right and they behave in the same way no different than the school of fish or the flock of birds that kind of murmuration that kind of emergence is reflected in human beings as well in fact it's so crazy that we could take 750 people we can measure their hrvs right and at the beginning of an event this was a 10-day event we did a couple of years ago in Cancun.

50:23We divided people into healthy and diseased, right? So we had about 265, I think, healthy people, no disease. And then the rest of the people had all different kinds of chronic health conditions. So we divided them to anxiety, PTSD, depression, cancer, Parkinson's. And so our first study, we looked at people with depression. Now, when you look at a person who has depression, their hrv is uh on the on the garmin readings are very jagged right and if you compare it to the control with their eyes open in the resting state there's very smooth right what we discovered that every single meditation when we went into a meditation somehow the depressed people had the exact same heart signatures as the healthies and at the end at every single meditation they were being entrained.

51:17At the end of 10 days, the depressed people looked exactly like the healthy people with their eyes open. So there's something that happens energetically that's happening in the audience, in the ballroom, that somehow people are somehow entraining to each other in this very non-local way.

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52:11Jay Shetty:Can you tell me a crazy story that's not a healing story? We just had one in Denver just a few weeks ago. So a woman comes on the stage, she tells a story that she's going to a training outside of Mexico City. And she's going to a kind of a dangerous area where there's a lot of crime. And she's wearing this very special pendant that she has that was handcrafted. It's in the shape of a heart, and it has a crescent that's cut out out of the heart. And it's very special for her because she has a birthmark on her left calf that's in that exact shape, right? So she makes the decision to take off the necklace, and long story short, she loses it.

52:55She looks for it. She can't find it anywhere. This is two years ago. So she practices maybe bring, you know, in meditation, bringing the pendant to her. She does it for a little while, nothing happens, so she just accepts that she lost it. We do a very extensive meditation towards the end of the week-long retreat. She's very deep in the meditation, and she sees the pendant kind of drop in the void. She said that she was okay with it. She just saw it, and she was totally okay with it. Now that day is a very long day at our week-long retreat, and the next day is the last day. So she finishes the day after 8 o 'clock, she goes to her room, and she starts to pack because she's leaving the next day.

53:41and she says I never put anything in the drawers in hotels because I'll always forget stuff so when I unpack I put things on the shelves and I hang things but never in the drawer so she said I was just packing and organizing and she said I don't know what possessed me to do this but I walked over to the nightstand and I opened the drawer in the nightstand and there was my necklace now think about that well she lost it in Mexico City she's in a hotel room with over 650 rooms a hotel with more than 650 rooms in the hotel it's in her room and it's two years later and it's in a completely different country how well if you see time is linear right then we're gonna have a problem with this but if you see time is not linear then it makes total sense right i mean i mean how many possible realities exist simultaneously.

54:37Jay Shetty:Oh my gosh, you're blowing my mind right now. I know, it's crazy, it's crazy. So she was wearing it, she was wearing it on the stage, it was her necklace, right? So that's crazy. So we have to upgrade our model of reality and time when we start thinking nonlinear like this. And when something like that happens, it should cause us to stop and think about things differently. Yeah, I mean, I've always been fascinated by the nature of time in the East and the West. And of course, in the West, it's linear. And in the East, it's always been cyclical. And it's been almost cyclical and spiraling upwards, like it's ascending as well.

55:11Jay Shetty:So it's not just like, it's just going round and round and round. And so it is fascinating when you start looking at these, in the same way in the West, we have this before and after, right? Like I used to be like this, now I'm like this, which kind of points to, I was stuck and now I'm stuck with this new version of it. Whereas if you're cyclical and ascending, then you're always evolving and moving and regenerating and refreshing, which is so much closer to what nature's doing. And it's entirely possible. Just like when you're in a changing room in a clothes store and there's two mirrors and you look down and you see an infinite number of views one way and an infinite number of views.

55:49That's how reality is. There's an infinite number of these entropic universes that exist. And one may be where you have one shirt not in your closet. If you think about how many variations, right? So in a sense, she moved from a reality in a dimension, a universe where she didn't have her pendant into one of those changing rooms. Everything else is the same in her life, except she's in that universe now where she has her pendant.

56:20Jay Shetty:No, I need to upgrade. I'm not there yet. I need to upgrade. It's so crazy, no? What type of meditation does this? Because this isn't just any meditation. It's not all types of meditation. There's a very specific method. I don't study any traditional meditation. I think when you use tradition or religion or culture, I think you divide an audience, even the language that goes along with that. So we look at a lot of brain scans. We look at a lot of data, right? If change is to be greater than your environment, to be greater than your body, and to be greater than time, we use meditation not only to become familiar with the old self and to become familiar with the new self, but also to get beyond our body, our environment, and time.

57:02So it's not uncommon in the first couple days you find yourself thinking about your wife or your husband or your pet or your job or your co-worker or your whatever, your cell phone, right? Because you're in the habit of doing that, okay? So you catch yourself doing that enough times, you stop doing it over time. And if you're not thinking about different people or different places or objects, and if you're not thinking about your body and you're not thinking about your emotions or your habits, and you're thinking about the predictable future and the familiar past, there's this elegant moment really where you have no attention on your body, you become nobody.

57:36You have no attention on anybody in your life that you relate to. You become no one. if you're not thinking about any object or thing you kind of enter this place of nothing right and if you're not thinking about any place you're in this kind of place of nowhere and if you're settling into the present moment you're in no time i call that the eye of the needle that's the moment we get beyond ourselves and if where we place our attention is where we place our energy and we have no attention on anything in our three-dimensional reality anything physical or material we kind of enter this realm where all of a sudden energy changes in the broad body energy moves naturally into the heart it just because you're no longer thinking and feeling in the same way you're no longer mismanaging your attention and you can relax into the present moment energy moves right into the heart and once it moves into the heart the heart all of a sudden as the creative center of the union of polarity and duality the union of opposites where wholeness starts Once energy makes it in the heart, we've seen this over and over again, the heart tells the brain, the trauma's over.

58:41The past is over. The heart kind of resets the baseline for the trauma, and the person all of a sudden changes their state. In fact, you can see it happen. When you're in stress and you're in survival, the brain is very erratic. It's functioning at a very high frequency. Call it high beta brainwaves. When energy makes it to the heart, you could just see this beautiful wave of energy move right to the brain and the brain goes into these beautiful alpha states. The heart's telling the brain to get creative, to dream, to imagine, right? So we see that and we've kind of developed this way of getting people to focus on the in-material instead of the material.

59:22So instead of narrow their focus on everything physical and material and when we're stressed we over-focus, we obsess, right? We overthink, we over-analyze. The hormones of stress cause us to become materialists. It heightens our senses, right? And so if something's moving in the bushes, you freeze and you narrow your focus on the cause and you're looking for something physical and material. It turns out that's how people focus most of the time. They kind of narrow their focus on objects and things. It's called a convergent focus. So people who have brains that are in high beta, they're overanalyzing, they're overthinking, they're looping, right?

59:58So what if we do the opposite? it what if we go from a narrow focus to a broad focus instead of con you know putting our focus and converging it on something open it up and diverge right open up and sense space sense nothing now the act of sensing causes us to stop thinking and analyzing and if you're focusing on nothing and if you get really good at this you're no longer activating those different neurological networks in the brain that have to do with your wife or your co-worker your pet or your cell phone or your bed or your car or whatever. And those different networks that are siloed and compartmentalized, they're modulated at a certain age.

1:00:36They start to communicate with each other. They start to synchronize. And what sinks in the brain links in the brain. So all of a sudden you see this diminishing of compartmentalization and this kind of more unified connection that takes place in the brain. And that kind of level of coherence that's created is exactly the proclivity for a mystical experience. In other words, when the brain gets that orderly, we can guarantee a person is going to have a transcendental moment. So we've done tons of research. In a seven-day event, we do so many different meditations. We're doing four walking meditations.

1:01:14I mean, you've got to be able to walk is it, right? You've got to practice with your eyes open. So imagine, you know, 2 ,500 people on the beach in Cancun. It's beautiful, right? The sun is rising, and, you know, everybody's starting together. And again, it's the flock has taken off. So we do walking meditations. We do healings on other people. And I will tell you this, the greatest biological changes and the greatest changes we see, period, in anything that we do in the week-long events is during the healings, both in the healers as well as the healies. There's some kind of dramatic change that takes place.

1:01:50There's a huge arousal that takes place in every single person.

1:01:54Jay Shetty:I know you've done research on the power of meditating together. And when everyone has a collective intention and this collective energy, and that really resonated with me because even from my spiritual traditions in past, collective meditation was seen as such a powerful, powerful way to really connect. We have these random event generators that we place all over the ballroom and they're very sophisticated coin tosses and what they do is they toss a coin about a thousand times in a second but instead of a heads and tails it's a machine that's programmed to throw a one or a zero you can't predict it that's why it's random it could be one one one zero zero zero one zero one zero one one zero zero but the more you toss the coin the more it's 50 50 right so we have these spread all over the room and when nobody's in the room when no one's in the room as you would expect and it follows the midline but it's zeros and ones when we do these collective coherence healings where people are no longer focusing on themselves but they're focusing on another person and if they have a coherent brain and a coherent heart they're going to jiggle the tagella that field already exists they're going to create waves in that field and if everybody's coherent when their waves come together and they interfere they're going to make bigger waves the higher the amplitude the higher the energy in the room so when we do the coherence healings the moment we we start the coherence healing all of a sudden you see a machine or the machines that are programmed to throw zeros or one all of a sudden start going like this and then all of a sudden start throwing ones and it goes way outside the parabola way outside of normal way outside of the range.

1:03:38So a machine that's programmed with those ones and zeros all of a sudden is behaving no longer randomly, but very orderly, right? If we take one of them and we wrap it in a Faraday cage, you know, copper, nickel, and insulate it from electromagnetism, while the other machines are all behaving abnormally, this machine looks like there's nobody in the room. So we know on some level that there's a field that's created that is electromagnetic it may not be the only thing but we know that there's an electromagnetic field that's influencing this machine now it gets crazier because we just published a paper in explore magazine on this we partnered with the heart math institute they have random event generators spread all around the globe and doing their own random things independent of the other they don't communicate in any way but when we look at the collective network of observers that are with brain and heart coherence that are creating the signature in the room, those random event generators that are spread around the globe have the same signature.

1:04:39The pulse is being reflected non-locally in the Earth's field. Like, what does that mean? It means we're all connected. And what is the number to get to where the collective change changes human behavior? Really, that's what we're interested in looking at. Is it the number of people? I doubt it. Is it the amount of energy? I doubt it. It's probably the most coherent signal, right? And so we see these dramatic changes taking place. Now it gets crazier because we have people wearing very sophisticated heart rate monitors on their chest that are the healies, right? The moment I say, turn your hands into the field of the person laying there, we have the data, I can show it to you.

1:05:22The moment I say that the person who's receiving the healing, there's a dramatic influx, an activation of energy into their heart. In other words, they're feeling an enormous amount of love, not a little love, like a lot of love. They can't make their heart do that. Like something is happening to them. So what does that mean? That that field that exists between you and I is real. And all you need to do is get coherent in your brain and heart. And you could actually send information into that field. And it's not matter that's creating this field. It's the field that's creating matter. If I can change the information in the field of the person who's laying there, I can change the destiny of matter.

1:06:00And so we've seen people heal from, I know this is crazy. We just had a blindness, deafness, ALS, Parkinson's disease. That just sounds like unbelievable. It's crazy. I know it's crazy. Muscular dystrophy. We've seen just rare genetic disorders, cancers.

1:06:20Jay Shetty:Doesn't it feel like unreal to even say that? It's totally crazy. That's why we're doing the research because it's not common. I have to catch myself because it's so common in in in the work that we do there's so many footprints that are in consciousness so there is something really powerful that happens if we take 41 people we did the study and we move them to another room they have no idea what's going on and they sit in that room for three hours and i run a meditation and they're wearing heart rate monitors and in the middle of the meditation, I ask the 2 ,400 people in the ballroom to send love to those people in the other room for the greatest good, their lives be enriched, their bodies be healed, their dreams be lucid, whatever.

1:07:08Only during the time that I ask those people to send that energy to the people in the other room, you see the highest heart rate and you see the most coherence just at those two moments. So why is this important? It's so important because we have to remember this. I say to the scientists all the time, is the data greater than we think? And they say, yes. And I say, that means we're greater than we think. Why? Because we're studying us. We're studying people that are not 40 years of devotion or meditation. These are common people, right and the data is outstanding right so all of the stories of transformation that have come from a person healing or from a person being healed are the four minute mile right there you're someone's standing on the stage and they're telling their story we just had it in denver you know a guy never meditated before in his life with macular degeneration he wasn't even going to stay for the whole event he had a profound mystical experience he came out of the meditation with he had three huge blind spots he couldn't read he had to turn his head to read right he came out of the medicine the next day he was able to see like like i don't know like how that happens but i i do know it is happening right and so when a person stands on the stage and tells their story how they heal themselves of terminal cancer stage four cancer pancreatic cancer someone in the audience is invariably looking at them and saying they don't look much different than me if they could do it i can do it and and i think just like an infection spreads amongst the community and creates disease you can see health or wellness become as infectious as disease it's not uncommon that we have you know five people stand up out of a wheelchair at one event or five people with reynard syndrome because one person stood on the stage four more people heal or one person with blindness then it's two people with blindness like it's it's it's crazy so something happens when people come together.

1:09:11That's why I'll never stop doing in-person events. And people, you know, one of the great things that happens at an in-person event is you meet a lot of really cool people and you make a lot of great friendships because everybody's, everybody's going through the same process of change and it's, it's pretty exciting.

1:09:28Jay Shetty:Yeah. Thank you for sharing that. And Dr. Joe just, I had friends who actually came to the retreat recently and they had a phenomenal experience in Denver. And I think everyone who's listening and watching, I hope they get an opportunity to come and actually experience it for themselves. And we end every episode of On Purpose with a final five. These questions have to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum. So Dr. Joe Dispenza, these are your final five. Question number one is, what is the best thought we can put into our mind? Oh, I'm greater than we think. I'm greater than I think, yes.

1:10:02Jay Shetty:Second question, what is the worst thought that we need to avoid? I'm nothing. Nobody believes in me. Question number three, what's the first thing we should do when we wake up in the morning? Remember who you wanna be. Question number four, what's the last thing you should do before bed? Give thanks for another day of life. And fifth and final question, if you could create one habit that everyone in the world should practice for the next 30 days, what would it be? treat others the way you want to be treated. Well said. Dr. Joe Dispenza, thank you so much. Thank you, Jay. Your time, your energy.

1:10:35Jay Shetty:It's always a pleasure. It's always such a pleasure getting to talk to you. And I'm excited for people to test some of these ideas. And for everyone who's listening and watching, whether you're commuting to and from work, whether you're watching at home with your family, whether you're sharing this with a friend, whether you're on a walk or a hike right now with your dog or cooking, whatever you're up to, I really, really hope that you'll clip the parts on social media that resonated with you, the parts that you're going to practice the parts you're going to try and implement and start transforming your life today.

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