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29:37So I try desperately not to overwhelm them with giving them too much off the bat. I mean, I am a supplement junkie. I've been dabbling with supplements since I had cancer. Now it's a billion-dollar business, and there's too many out there, and there's a lot of crappy supplements out there. So I do feel really lucky that I've dabbled in it a long time, so I know what's good and what isn't. And I had to also deal with it myself. so I take a lot of supplements and I figure out what works for me and what doesn't and I muscle test them on myself and all of that and I try to teach my clients to muscle test the supplements on them.

30:13What's a muscle test? Okay, so this is fascinating. You have never heard of this? I don't know, I'm not sure. Maybe it's called something else. I feel like I thought at Nexcel they do that, maybe not but you actually stick a supplement like on your gut or you can hold it and actually it's kind of like Eastern medicine. You know, either you hold your hand out and somebody pushes your hand down if you're with somebody. Okay, that's muscle testing. How you do it on yourself is you put it on your gut and you stand like kind of like try to balance yourself and stand upright. And then you say, hey, is this B complex right for me?

30:47And then your body moves forward if yes and back if no. And then you say, should I take one? Should I take two? And your body tells you everything. It's so in tune. You know, we were born with these incredible instincts and we lose touch with them, right? Like we lose touch like along the way with all the things that have gone on in our life. And it's the same thing with food, with supplements, with what we need to do to heal ourselves and where we want to be in our lives is all instinctual. So the instincts are huge. So I try to teach them that as well. It's so interesting, isn't it? because I feel like we've become so distrusting of our bodies because we've been told to trust someone or something else.

31:32And of course, we do need guides. We need experts. We need doctors. And I'm not discouraging anyone from any of those things. I'm just saying that I think claiming back some of that. In the same way as when you eat something, you know whether your body is accepting or rejecting it based on how it's feeling. And of course, if your digestion is strong, then it gives you the best sense. Sometimes if your digestion is weak, it may not give you the best marker. But when you're talking about vitamins and supplements, walk us through in a practical sense, how does someone make a choice? What do they need to read on the back of a box or a bottle with vitamins and supplements?

32:08Like what should they be looking for? And what should they be looking at to make sense of it from a technical standpoint, not just the intuition standpoint? Yeah, that's a great question. Because you want to have as least fillers and additives in that supplement as possible. And what's a filler? So filler is like something that just fills up the supplement. You know, it's like a, you know, crystalline cellulose is a, is a filler. Not all the supplement is going to be the B complex, but they need other things, you know, to bind the Bs, you know, for the for you to be able to digest them. So a lot of times, you know, or like, it's expensive to have the supplement be all, you know, liposomal C or B or whatever, vitamin D.

32:53So a lot of times they add that the additives so that it isn't as costly. So it really is a struggle because a lot of people don't do well with these additives and they don't know that. So microcrystalline cellulose is one that's in a lot of supplements, and it gives you digestive issues if you're taking too many. So you could see a lot of people's supplements and they can all have micro crystalline cellulose i mean it's wild so it or soy lecithin you know or just these additives just like in foods you know it kind of maintains the shelf life of the supplement as well so it's hard to find supplements without that because they're costly and a lot of people can't afford that right so that's why you know i try to go more like with the food and that you know lead with the food and then supplements come second But there are some supplements out there that we absolutely do need.

33:45You know, vitamin D is one of them. I mean, since COVID, the studies that have been done on vitamin D, and especially liposomal D, because liposomal is a phospholipid outside of a supplement and basically is better to absorb, easier to absorb, like liposomal C and liposomal glutathione and all those things. And so basically, you know, when you raise your D levels, you can lower your cholesterol. Actually, you raise your D levels. It's better for your immune system. It's better for cognitive function. People don't realize that there's a vitamin D cell receptor in every cell in your body. So, you know, there's that.

34:21It's omega-3s. It's, you know, it's magnesium. Like, there's certain things out there. Be complex for stress. This fall, Pandora Talisman opens a bold new chapter, a tribute to ancient coins and the power of modern self-expression. Each Pandora talisman transforms timeless symbols into deeply personal, meaningful statements. On the front, you'll discover powerful motifs like hearts, snakes, moons and stars, each carrying its own rich symbolism. On the back, engraved Latin words of wisdom invite moments of reflection, intention and strength, making every Pandora talisman a tactile reminder of what matters most.

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36:36It's vegan and parabens and sulfates-free. Plus, it's totally designed for men's skin. But the main thing is that it works and it's easy. Your skin will look and feel better. And in case you missed it before, you don't have to work hard to make it happen. Yep, just hack your grooming routine and add the Dove Men Plus Care Scrub into your shower. I've been seeing a lot more EVs lately. Parked in driveways, passing on the road, friends making the switch. And they all say the same thing. These cars are simpler, fewer parts, fewer repairs, fewer headaches. That's what makes EVs worth considering. Less to break, less to fix.

37:18Even if you haven't made the move yet, it's hard to ignore the shift. They're more affordable, more available, and honestly, just makes sense for everyday life. The way forward is electric. Learn more at electricforall.org. Yeah, one thing I definitely didn't realize until I really got on a good regime of supplements and vitamins was just how much harder I was working to feel good. Right. Like it was, I just thought it was a mental battle. And so I was fighting the mental battle every day with meditation and mindfulness and everything else. And then I realized, I was like, actually I would have been a much better meditator if I just took supplements and vitamins early on, because then your body's actually helping you with that focus and with the physical activity or movement and exercise, right?

38:06Whether it's hiking or sport or whatever it may be. And it's so funny, now that you're naming all these things, I'm like, I've seen all these things on the backs and never known what that means. And it's so easy to just feel so uneducated. And I've definitely felt that way in this space, you know, without having good people around you. it's so hard to really know whether what you're doing is good for you or not walk us through like if we took a random stack of snacks right now and i don't want to pick on any brands or anything like that in any way but if you were to teach someone how to read the back of a snack pack what should they be looking out for because this is something that i believe has changed the way i snack and i generally i'd say my diet is like maybe i don't know at this point like five percent processed or packaged foods in any if if that probably when i'm traveling i'll have like a protein bar that i travel with or something like that but generally it's it's not i'm i'm on the whole foods diet and everything else but it wasn't that way before i used to think that if i ate healthy snacks, then that was okay.

39:15So I would eat packaged goods. And then 50 % of my diet was packaged goods, or maybe 30%. Walk us through what we should be looking out for. Because I think so much is hidden on these. Well, it's the same thing as the supplements, you know, there's a laundry list of things on the back of the snack, you know, box or bag or whatever that you don't even recognize. Right? Like, it's just, I mean, they're like, you know, certain dyes that are bad for us. And I get going back to the soy lecithin, like soy lecithin is really bad for us. I see that everywhere. It's so funny. I've pronounced that wrong for them my whole life now that you've told me.

39:50I mean, I love soy, whole soy products. But, you know, when it's processed down to that, it's bad. It's like the bad seed oils. That's omega-6s and nines and like really causing inflammation. So, again, if it's a laundry list of things that you don't recognize, like that kind of is a no-go. I mean, you know, let's talk about some of the things we know, like plant milks, you know, they're, they've been huge for years, right? Now there's, thank God, there's better, healthier plant milks out there. They're just almonds and sea salt and water. Like those are the things to look for. Something that's just simple.

40:26Even the cheeses, you know, I, I do love some of the plant based foods and cheeses and some of the fake meats. But again, they could have a lot of bad stuff in them. So it's like, you know, I sometimes you just got to go for the less is more, even the protein bars too. You know, every so often, it's not bad to have some of these things that do have these, you know, all these things in them, because you're not going to be perfect. But I would say 75 % of the time, 80 % of the time to try to look for, you know, those things on the back and just try to do things with less additives, because your system doesn't know how to process it doesn't know how to digest it.

41:07And the more you add these additives into your body, I think more toxic you become. And also the digestive system, like the digestive issues are crazy out of control. Like I created a digestive cleanse because it's been like, everybody has digestive issues. Everybody calls me like my diet. Every time I eat, I get bloated. I, you know, I can't eat anything now, or I can't go to the bathroom, like the constipation for days on end. Like it's really crazy. Or the other side of it where they're go in the bathroom too much um that's an epidemic like the hydration yeah so you're saying when you're looking at if you're outside you're looking for snacks and products it's like less ingredients simple ingredients and real ingredients basically things that you actually know what they are if you don't know what they are right that's probably a sign that and the problem is it doesn't taste as good though no it doesn't like yeah sometimes i had a protein bar the other day because i was at expo and i had a protein bar and i was like oh great like this literally had three ingredients on it i was so excited to eat it and i tried it it was so bad compared to the one that i've been programmed to love which has all the other 30 things that you'd say i shouldn't eat and are not good for me and it's so frustrating because i'm like i wish i was trained to believe that whole natural foods were tasty and healthy whereas because i've been so spoiled by my taste buds have been ruined by all of this other stuff that now feels captivating and exciting and tasty.

42:38Yeah. Most of America has, you know, right. I mean, the sugar in these things, like, you know, there's a lot of sugar in these bars and in these milks and cheeses or whatever it is, because things don't taste so great when they are on that simple side. You know, there's a lot of salt, there's a lot of sodium. So to make them taste better. Walk us through. So walk us through the core needs that people come to you with. So you said they do it. There's a gut cleanse. Walk us through the different cleanses that people need in their life. So the regular cleanse is really, I'll tell you a little bit about what's on it.

43:11There's a detox tonic on it with coconut kefir, which is a probiotic drink. I love coconut kefir. I am a big fan of probiotics and I love coconut kefirs, Cocoyo, and there's a lot of great products out there on the market. Then it has chlorophyll, apple cider vinegar, lemon, ginger in there. And then there's my homemade super seed bar. Then you basically get a bone broth or a vegan broth. Our bone broth is really gelatinous, and so there's a lot of collagen, which I love. And then you get different salads for the week, different salad dressings, fermented vegetables. You get different soups for the nighttime, and then you get lattes for the evening.

43:51Then you also get digestive enzymes, and you get magnesium. So to make sure that everything's working properly. because people going from an animal protein diet into a plant-based legumes and beans can disrupt their stomach and also a lot of vegetables can as well so there's that one there's a three-day so with that one yes walk us so are you encouraging people to not have dinners in that is that the soup is dinner yes or they could have soup for lunch and do the salad for dinner so it's not super strict um a lot of people who exercise a ton will add a little bit of animal protein you know, to the meal potentially, and it doesn't take you away from the cleanse.

44:31So again, you're just getting tons of vegetables, you're getting anti inflammatory, you know, nourishing, nurturing foods. So that, you know, that one is like my regular one that has been going on for nine years. Sometimes it blows my mind because the tonics been on there for nine years, the bar has been on there. Like it's crazy that things are still popular. People buy the tonics and the bars separately. and then the gut cleanse has activated charcoal on there. Walk us through that. What activated charcoal? So I love activated charcoal because it lowers bacterial loads in your gut. Wait, how do you eat activated charcoal?

45:08You take a pill. Right, okay. You can put it in a drink and, you know, you can put it in the detoxonic or in water or whatever, but you take, it's a pill. It's a very strong pill. And I have found when I had insulin-resistant clients who couldn't lose weight, you know, weight resistant clients, their insulin was high, their gut bacteria was too high. So I would put them on five days of activated charcoal and lower their insulin levels, which was like fantastic. So that's how the gut cleanse came about. So they get activated charcoal, they still get the enzymes, they get the magnesium, but they get chia pudding, they get sauerkraut, they still get the detox tonic, they don't get the bar because a little too much sugar.

45:48I don't want sugar for them because of the bacteria. and then they get everything else that's pretty similar. And the nighttime is a Tulsi tea. You know that. Holy basil is one of my favorites. It's anti-inflammatory and great for the gut, great for sleep. So that's the other cleanse that I love. And so what I'm trying to do for people is really clean them out. Those clients are the ones that have a little bit of constipation issues, like aren't going to the bathroom regularly. And by the end of the week, they're going two and three times a day. Wow. Like that's another crazy thing because people go once a day.

46:25That's considered constipated these days. It's crazy. Walk us through that because that's always like an uncomfortable topic for people. It's something that people don't talk about. But I mean, I don't think we've even, we're getting to the point of understanding how important the digestive system is. Yeah. And how often should be people going to the restroom? what should be the healthy way of going about that area of their life? Well, you know, once a day is good. Twice is great. Three is perfect. So we really, because we don't get enough fiber, because we don't get enough hydration, because we're stressed, because when we're stressed, our digestive system completely shuts down.

47:09We are not being able to digest our food. So, and also we're eating a lot of animal protein. so it takes you know 14 hours to get through the small intestine cow and and animal protein and 90 minutes for plant-based food which is crazy so we're just say that difference again so for plant-based food it takes 90 minutes to get through the small intestine for cow and animal protein it takes 14 hours so we're you know we're eating eggs for breakfast and chicken for lunch and salmon for dinner like so we're just like not that it's bad for you but we're just we're not getting hydration We're not getting fiber.

47:44You know, we're stressed. Because you're not doing all the other things. We're not doing the other things. We're not sleeping. Sleeping is very detoxifying and helping us with our digestive system. So, yeah, so we're supposed to be kind of like an animal and going after every meal. And people are a little bit like, oh, please don't tell me that. Yeah, wow. I know. It's interesting how interconnected it all is, though. Like you talked about hydration earlier. We're talking about the gut now. Like it's fascinating because it's almost like, And even for me, I was talking to a friend about it this morning, and we were just talking about how like, we're like, okay, we want to get proteins.

48:19But then if I'm eating this, because as a plant based person to get proteins harder, it's also that way around, right? So you're trying to get enough protein in your diet. But then it's like, well, maybe that particular item doesn't sit well with my gut and doesn't make me feel good. And so you're also finding that as well, right? Like, it's, it's not as simple as like, well, this is really great for everyone. Right. It's so individual. It's not a one size fits all. Right. And I do believe in, you know, if you're vegan, I can help someone get enough protein or vegetarian or, you know, animal protein.

48:49For me, I grew up eating animal protein. So I, you know, I feel like I need that. And I feel like as I've aged, I feel like I need more amino acids. But sometimes certain animal proteins don't agree with me. So I do take digestive enzymes before I eat animal protein. So I can digest it. So I mean... What form do you take your digestive enzymes? I love this Enzymedica Digest Gold. AT Pro is one of my favorites. It's on the cleanse. But you can also get it from apple cider vinegar. You can also get it from bitter greens like dandelion greens, arugula, endive, radicchio. So sometimes I'll just take a handful of arugula before I eat a meal.

49:27It's really crazy. And it'll wake up your enzymes. Really? Yeah. That's incredible. I didn't know that. Or after a meal, if you kind of have a digestive issue, you could take some arugula and eat it. I know it sounds very strange, but or have some apple cider vinegar or take an enzyme after the meal. It doesn't have to be before the meal. So there are a lot of tricks that people sometimes don't know, because digestion can be an issue. And I also don't overdo the animal protein. Like I'm not having like 8 to 10 to 12 ounces of something. You know, I'm having like three to four ounces. So that's like, you know, 30, 40 grams of protein.

50:02So I feel like nowadays protein is the hot topic. like you know some people feel like you need to get a gram per body weight but i'm really someone who feels like you know 70 75 grams for women is great so that's kind of easy to do and of course it impacts based on your workouts exactly and everything else that are going on yeah and hoping that you do digest you know what you're eating yeah that's important i've i've found that adding in the beginning adding protein to my diet felt heavy on my digestion but actually it's now led to better digestion but it took it took this like transition point where i was like god that's really heavy like it's harder to digest in the beginning yeah even though it should be helping me right but then i feel like it's it's just staying committed to it my digestion's got used to it is that natural do you find that that's the same with legumes and beans because people will go on the cleanse and be like i can't eat legumes and beans then they're not used to that because they're animal protein eaters and most of us have been animal protein eaters i feel like most people i talk to they just don't they feel like big beans and legumes are gassy and are hard to digest but the more you eat them the easier they are in the system right yeah your digestive system gets you know used to it right it is kind of wild what what are some of the biggest mistakes you see people making when it comes to their health and well-being that you've kind of noticed as trends over the years that these seem to just be the things that trip people up this fall pandora talisman opens a bold new chapter, a tribute to ancient coins and the power of modern self-expression.

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53:37It's vegan and parabens and sulfates free. Plus, it's totally designed for men's skin. But the main thing is that it works and it's easy. Your skin will look and feel better. And in case you missed it before, you don't have to work hard to make it happen. Yep. Just hack your grooming routine and add the Dove Men Plus Care Scrub into your shower. I've been seeing a lot more EVs lately. Parked in driveways, passing on the road, friends making the switch. And they all say the same thing. These cars are simpler, fewer parts, fewer repairs, fewer headaches. That's what makes EVs worth considering. Less to break, less to fix.

54:20Even if you haven't made the move yet, it's hard to ignore the shift. They're more affordable, more available, and honestly just makes sense for everyday life. The way forward is electric. Learn more at electricforall.org. That's such a great question because there's so many. But I would say, you know, a lot of people are over supplementing. Oh, interesting. Yeah, they are like on social media, TikTok or Instagram. And they're seeing all these influencers who are great at what they do. But they're promoting all these different products. and they have no idea if that product is right for them. So they're buying it.

55:01So I'll like see cupboards and like suitcases of people who have all these supplements and they're taking them and they don't feel good. They're not really making them feel better. So but the person who's promoting is that this is going to change your life. So that's huge. Also, like what's also hard is basically like following the prototype, like gluten free, you know, or not everybody needs to be gluten free, or like dairy free or all of those things. So, you know, or they're not gluten free, the other side of it, you know, they're just not like eating, like they're not taking gluten out of their diet because it's inflammatory or dairy or sugar.

55:45Sugar is a huge one. So people really feel that sugar, you know, they can have a little sugar, some people can't. so I think food wise it's like there's so many misconceptions of what they should or shouldn't be doing and they should be gluten-free or not or dairy-free or maybe like you know should they be could they have some sugar or not just it depends on like what their blood sugar is what their gut is happening I'm seeing a lot of that the supplements I also see that people are over exercising too like they're like doing Barry's boot camp and spin classes and their cortisol and adrenaline is so high and they're so stressed and their adrenals are fatigued and it's just making them more tired that's why you have to be observing the 360 and that's what's so hard about it because you could look great right and then still feel terrible and be super stressed out because you did it's kind of like I mean we were having this conversation offline which you know last night I played pickleball for two hours it was super physical I think everyone's you know everyone's fitness trackers said that we burnt like 1 ,100 calories last night playing for two hours but I came back and my body temperature was really high and so when I got into bed and as I was telling you my AC unit wasn't working so I couldn't lower the temperature in the bedroom and my house gets quite hot so I had a high body temperature and the temperature So the room was probably like 78, which is super high.

57:17And so then now it was so hard for me to sleep. And I remember while I was struggling to sleep, I just started researching body temperature and why it was hard to sleep and all the rest of it. And that's what it was saying. And I was thinking, this is so interesting because I could be thinking, oh, it's because I'm stressed about something or I've got loads on. And it's like, well, no, it's just body temperature and the temperature in my room. And it's challenging because I think that, you know food is such a source of joy it's such a source of excitement for so many people and yet now when you start really getting into it it can become such a source of stress and such a source of pressure like oh my god i'm eating too much this i'm eating too little this like oh no i didn't meal prep this week and oh no now like i didn't get it oh i forgot to take my vitamins like i think we're so stressed about being healthy how have you made sense of that because I can find when I'm having this conversation, there's a part of me, I've been through the ups and downs of that where I've been like, God, I hate dealing with my health, right?

58:16Because it's so stressful and now I'm in a better place with it. But that's taken a long, long, long, long, long time to even recognize that healing journey of realizing I'm doing this because I love myself. I'm doing this because I believe in myself. I'm doing this because I love my body. I love my heart. I love myself, which is why I get to do this. But that has taken a long time even for me. So walk us through how people can balance that stress to be healthy when it should be making us less stressed. I know. That's another good one. It's just like this over-supplementing. And like, you know, you walk into Erewhon and you like talk about stress.

58:55There's all this, you know, healthy, beautiful food and you don't know what to choose, right? It's like, oh, my God. Like there's so much out there. It's just overwhelm. And I feel like, you know, you've just got to get back in tune with yourself and you've, you know, you can't overdo anything. I think you've got to go back to the basics. You know, you just got to go back to eating real food. Try to do that. You've got to, you know, if the supplements are disturbing you, just do less. Just do the basics of what you need. You know, multivitamin, vitamin D, magnesium, just simple things. You've got to hydrate.

59:32You know, you got to sleep like just like you can't like get all worked up over these things because you're right. You're not going to do them. You're just like not going to do them. Like I find people just being like, this is way too much. You want it to be simple. You want them to feel better. You want them to see results. So less is more. And I feel like, you know, we have become a society where we're doing way too much. And we just we got to pull back. We got to just, we got to believe in ourselves. I think, you know, with the meditation, like I'm a huge meditator and that's so helpful for me because I'm a type A personality and I'm always like, go, go, go.

1:00:13And I got to get shit done. But when I pull back and I meditate and I do yoga and I chill out, like then every, my, my mind tells me what I need, you know, cause I could do that too. I can over supplement. I can, you know, be really like uptight about, wow, I went to this restaurant and they didn't have gluten-free pizza or, you know, or wild salmon. I remember ordering that stuff and my whole family would be like, oh my God, we can't eat with you because you're such a pain in the ass. But now I'm just like, okay, who cares, you know? But you do have to kind of like get back in touch with and reconnect your mind with your body and be like, okay, what works for me?

1:00:54you know i can't like you can't you can't go crazy about this stuff how have you allowed yourself to fall in love with yourself and your body and your heart and your mind again and again and again when the body gets older it changes it transitions it shifts like what what have what has been like your "... two girls sittingauen around 19 andods and white women and whites Ishikawa..." what has been your inner practice to keep that? do you really it's i'm asking really deeply yeah yeah yeah i'm asking a deep question yeah yeah this is um this is fascinating um but uh you know when i did figure it out like at 58 years old um i did plant medicine so i did psilocybin and journey and i really did see what my subconscious was doing to me.

1:01:46My subconscious was, you know, still labeling me as a kid, always fearful. I was looking over my shoulder that another illness was going to come along the way. I was never going to be healthy. I didn't even know what calm or self-love felt like, you know, so that really, I saw what I was doing to myself. And I also felt a sense of peace and calm with that. So once I was able to release all of those, you know, subconscious feelings that weren't working for me anymore, I grabbed on to the ones that I was like, okay, I want that calm, I want that self love more. And that's what really got me in touch with it.

1:02:26And then that's when when I meditate, I can go back to that place where I was when I did some plant medicine to get me past that hump. I had done a lot of therapy, I'd done a lot of Reiki, a lot of meditation, a lot of energy healing, crystals all the stuff but that was really the the place that put me over the edge to really get me to a place where I could recapture you know and really find that calmness and happiness and like that's felt so incredible that feeling so I journal a ton you know I do have to journal and and talk about what frustrates me during the day to let go of it and then I talk about what I'm grateful for.

1:03:08That's huge. The meditation is huge. The yoga is huge. Just like, also getting out in nature is absolutely huge. I mean, we haven't talked about this at all. But you know, and you probably do this, you know, getting out in morning sun is a practice that is just incredible. Like it boosts your mood, it actually helps with depression, you know, it helps with the immune system, and helps lower blood sugar and blood pressure. And it's like a beautiful way to start your day. The sun is so incredible. So that those are, and then I just feel like so hopeful because the sun comes up every day, right? You know, it goes down, it comes up.

1:03:49It's like, okay, everything's going to be okay. I want to go back to the plant medicine point because I love hearing that and I want to dive into that with you. I didn't know if that was something I could talk about. 100%, 100%, of course it is. For someone who doesn't know what a plant medicine journey looks like, walk us through what that journey looks like. So it is psilocybin mushrooms, and I've done ayahuasca, psilocybin, a bunch of plant medicine, and I did it with a shaman, a one-on-one, which was beautiful because I recommend that because there's a lot of things you want to manifest and let go of.

1:04:27Where did you go to do this? I did it at home, actually. with the shaman came to me and um and so it was a friend of mine and there was just a lot of stuff I was dealing with and some insomnia at the time and so he came and we kind of manifested what I wanted to release and when I was on the journey with the with the mushrooms um he would talk to me and say hey how are you feeling you know what do you think of this you know when you were sick or when you had cancer or your husband died I mean and I was like you know wow that was a really difficult time that I haven't let go of. Those thought patterns and the fear, I haven't let go of that.

1:05:05So it was, so he was like, okay, what does it feel like if you were to let go of that? And I'm like, can I let go of that? Is that like possible? And he's like, absolutely. You can get to the other side of this because, you know, the first seven years of our life, our subconscious is fully downloaded. And then, you know, those thought patterns keep repeating themselves in our, in our subconscious. And we operate 95 % out of our subconscious, which always blows my mind, Jay, because 5 % conscious, that's crazy. So I mean, that's, that's what it did. He would write down, you know, things I said, and just how I was able to release them.

1:05:43And once I was able to release them, Jay, they didn't come back. Like, it was like, the things that came back was the feeling of the peace and the love and like not wanting to beat myself up and like be hard on myself and be I was a perfectionist too that was part of the protocol I think that got me sick and so that perfectionism you know somewhat left me probably not 100 % but a lot of it did you're taking the plant medicine someone's guiding you almost like in a therapy session a coaching session guiding you through questions and helping you become aware of where some of these blocks may be where some of these challenges may be I'm breaking it down for everyone who may may be unaware and then what does releasing in that session look like like what what is that is that a feeling is it a visualization is it is it you trying to let go like what does that what does that look like in the session and then we'll talk about yeah that's a good question too because um it it could be a like it could be it gets a purging it's you know you could hysterically cry because it's like it's an emotion that you've hung on to for many, many years and, you know, repeated these thought patterns.

1:07:01So it could be crying. It could be screaming. It could be, you know, just like this feeling of, wow, I can't believe I've done this to myself. And I would say that, you know, it's more like the just the feeling of sadness and and and the crying and the like some maybe yelling like, God damn, I can't believe like, how was I so hard on myself? Like, I don't need to be that hard on myself. You know, I didn't need to do that to myself. So it was like, you know, and then he was he's amazing. He was there to like, hold me and support me and just really like, you know, add just love and help me breathe through it.

1:07:46And once you kind of like are able to be like, okay, I don't want that anymore in my life. And then you breathe through it and you're able to, breath work is like, you know, I'm sure you've done breath work is incredible. You can actually, in breath work, you can feel like you're on plant medicine a lot of times. So, you know, breathing through it and releasing it through breath work is a beautiful thing. So that's kind of how it goes. Yeah. And are you feeling or seeing? Both. you could see yourself in a distance like what you do you know it's almost like an all you know another you're looking at yourself yeah you're feeling it and you're seeing yourself in a distance you know how you're reacting and interacting and even if you're interacting with other people you know even people in your family or things that have gone on you can actually see it it's kind of wild I know it's not for everybody no no no no for sure I I've I've known many clients who've worked with it and and found it to be useful as well I think it's important to share because I want to ask when you come out of it like when when the when the when the session is is over how much have you found that you're able to what are you holding on to what do you take with you and what still stays the same?

1:09:05Because as we know, it's, you know, no change is ever miraculous or immediate. So what do you take with you and what still exists and is a process? That's beautiful too, because what I took with me was that sense of calm and like self-love and what I wanted to have more in my life. But I did also take away, you know, the part of how much I was beating myself up and, you know, how hard I was on myself and what I had and why I think I had gotten all these illnesses and why I'd gotten the cancer and just why I was at the place I was in my life where I wasn't getting what I really wanted ultimately, whether it also was with relationships or, you know, intimately, like all those things were really important to me to find.

1:09:55And, you know, there was blockages. So I realized like it was really cool to be able to journal about those blockages later. Like, oh my God, I want to release that. And I kind of had to do that. And I still have to do that. It's not a miracle cure. I still in my life have to be like, okay, I need to release, you know, that thought pattern. I still kind of walk around a little bit with it, but not to the same extent. When I did the journey, I was unconscious about it. Now I'm conscious. That's a beautiful thing. Absolutely. It's that awareness. Yeah, you know where something came from. Yeah. What was it for you, if you don't mind sharing?

1:10:30What was it that you found when you asked, like, that's why I believe I'm going to get sick again? Or that's why I got sick in the first place? Where was that coming from? That was coming from like growing up because when I was, I was sick all the time and my mom, you know, labeled me a sick kid and she would always be like, oh, there she is again, sick, you know, like, well, we got to be really sensitive with her because, you know, she might get sick. And so I kind of just, you know, followed that, you know, what she said. And I based, that's where that's really where it came from. It was those years, those early years of always being, you know, not feeling well.

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1:14:48Because there's something blocking you from getting healthy or wanting to heal or a lot of the cancer ones, you know, we talk about those things. And also, they're also like, no one's asked me that, you know, no one's asked me what my blockages are, or, you know, what's going on with me? Like, did anything happen in those first seven early years of your life that maybe was traumatic? Jay, all of them had like death, divorce, you know, or someone was mean to them, you know, they didn't, and then they lost trust and faith in the universe, sort of, you know, I know it's a little woo woo, but they did, they lost faith in like, you know, that they didn't have what's in them to be able to overcome it.

1:15:31And I think like that has been like a beautiful thing for me working with clients and helping them heal. I can't, I'm not trained to get them past it. You know, someone like you can get them past it to some degree. But, you know, it's like that work of, you know, diving into the subconscious. and also I work with a hypnotist that's beautiful and some energy healers that are wonderful too and I'll send them to them as well if they need to like do the extra work and most of them do what do you find those modalities support and and by the way I agree I think I mean you know what we're really talking about today and I encourage people to follow their own intuition and guide as to what speaks to them because as it's almost like as you grow and learn more you realize how much there is still to explore and how everyone's so different and you know everyone needs a different way to become aware and a different way to become conscious like I found a lot of my personal awakening and consciousness in meditation and being with my teachers and listening for hours and study and practice and then I meet people who needed a you know moment of revelation through plant medicine or I meet people who found it another way and I just realized everyone is so different and everyone's trauma is so different and everyone's healing journey looks so different that we can't close the door on any of these modalities because and and I always say that like sometimes people ask me like would you be open to this and I'm like if I needed something if I was trying to unblock something I'd be open to anything because I should be like why should I close off from any opportunity for healing that I need uh just because it may not be as common or or as uh or as marketed or whatever whatever the right word is but but for you i guess the question i was asking is when you're we're talking about this like 360 degree approach when you talked about hypnotism and what was the other modality you just mentioned just energy healing energy healing so specifically with hypnotism like where does that modality play into everything we've talked about today like what is because again i think it sounds so mysterious and maybe like you said woo woo but like what is the point of that modality is I guess the question I'm asking so I feel like some hypnotists that are really good are able to tap into your subconscious as well so a little bit like therapy but you know it goes much deeper than talk therapy um the hypnotist that I work with she's able like I'll talk to her about something that is bothering me or I can't sleep about and she's like oh this is what's like at the root of your issue.

1:18:08And I'm like, how did you know that? She can like dive in and see like, this is what's bothering you. So that's what I find is really helpful. And then she'll do a meditation specifically for me. So I've had tremendous amount of clients go to her or to a hypnotist that's really good, who don't eat healthy, who don't exercise, who don't sleep well. So then And they'll go and she's able to get them to sleep well. She's able to find out what is causing them not to sleep well. And she's able to get them to eat healthy. Like it's kind of crazy. They'll wake up the next day and automatically start thinking about eating healthy.

1:18:50Now, I have to tell you that this doesn't last. So you have to listen to her meditations again or see her again. Or, you know, again, it's like a practice. Well, because basically what you're saying here is that every decision, thought, choice we make is simply a programming of our subconscious. And we've created a subconscious pattern since we were born that has led us to where we are now. and if we don't like where we are and we want to shift it we have to reprogram our subconscious mind and that requires understanding your thoughts self-awareness journaling meditating reflection and then if you need it plant medicine hypnotism what you know just just the plethora of of options there because i think what we get stuck with is we believe that our current set of habits are who we are, right?

1:19:44We think that the way we eat now is who we are and what we need and what it needs to be, not realizing that it is simply a programmed pattern that you adopted at one point in your life and you started to believe it was you, right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Like that's what's so fascinating, I think, about what I get to do. Because I do find that, you know, people do feel like, you know, this is where I'm going to be. This is what I know. This is, you know, I'm not going to ever get past here. I might get a little better, but I might not get great. And I'm like, what's with this little better?

1:20:22You need to be great. Like I feel that way with my life, like at 64, I feel great. I feel better than I did when I was in my twenties. so I want people to like know that you know when I say how are you I want them to say great not I'm just okay so yeah that you know all of those patterns that they learned some are luckier than others that have better patterning and you know better upbringings in terms of just like healthier lifestyles and maybe not so you know they were more secure and you know self-awareness earlier on in their life, which is lucky for them. But a lot of people that I work with weren't.

1:21:03And like, you, it's never too late to change. You know, I feel like, you know, we're, there's a lot of years to live, right? I mean, my mom is 94. I know. So like, she's going strong. And I'm like, I hope I'm 94 and going strong like that, you know, but it takes work to get there. And to do that. And I feel that's really just all of this. I want, you know, the modalities are endless out there, as you know, you know, like anti aging, and just all of the new stuff in the stem cells, and the, you know, NAD, and just everything cold blunge, and just all of it is a beautiful thing infrared, just getting us healthier and healthier.

1:21:47So I mean, it's a lot to like learn. But it's kind of cool that, you know, we're on the precipice of all these beautiful things that can really turn back the lock. Absolutely. Have you ever talked to your mother about the sick kid label? Yes. Yeah. And, you know, it was beautiful because she did apologize. She's like, you know, I didn't know any different. And what she didn't, you know, she didn't know. And I think that, you know, a lot of us like taking care of people too. And she loved being able to take care of me when I was sick too. And I felt, I felt nurtured in those times as well. So I got a little something out of it.

1:22:29It wasn't all bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Alyssa, it has been such a joy to talk to you today. And honestly, your personal journey that's led to so much professional service and love and support for so many people. And the amount of insight that you've given today, I think everyone's going to be able to take away. And this is what I would encourage everyone to do is Alyssa shared so much great advice today find just one thing that you want to practice for the next seven days it may be to eat more whole foods it may be to cut out sugar it may be to research a bit more about inflammation and learn about like I think just pick one thing that resonates with you that you want to try and up level your life with it could be getting your vitamin d right it could be sun exposure whatever else it may be and start there and just feel the confidence shift from doing one thing per week and then keep adding more and a lot can happen alissa we end every episode of the podcast with a final five these fast five have to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum oh god and so they cap that way uh so alissa goodman these are your final five the first question is what is the best advice you've ever heard or received?

1:23:43To love yourself, to learn to love yourself. Beautiful. Second question, what is the worst advice you've ever heard or received? That you're never going to get better. You're not going to heal. Question number three, what's something that you used to believe was true about good health, but you don't think so anymore? I used to believe that just sleeping was going to get me healthy. You know, good sleep was gonna get me healthy. Talk to me a bit. And it's not just that anything, right? It's not just one thing. It's a combination of things. Yeah. And we're always looking for that one thing. We all want that one miracle drug.

1:24:27Like, what's that one thing I need to do that's going to change my life? And yeah, it's 360. There is no one. Yeah, that makes sense. Question number four, what's the first thing you do every morning and the last thing you do every night the first thing I do every morning is probably journal and uh journal about how I want my day to look like and the same thing at night beautiful to release the stress wonderful and fifth and final question if you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow what would it be I would say just be kind to yourself and others you know um really understand try to understand that people are going through a lot in their life and to not judge right away you know to have some self-compassion for yourself and the others that you're with yeah i mean i couldn't agree with you I really believe that the reason we judge others so harshly is because we're so harsh on ourselves and we haven't found the ability to show ourselves that self-love, that compassion, that empathy.

1:25:39And so it's so difficult to show it externally to people we've never met or don't know. And yeah, I love that. Alyssa, is there anything that I haven't asked you that was on your heart and mind that you really want to share that you really feel like is your call to right now or feel intuitively is important? And you don't have to have anything. Yeah, I mean, I think we did touch on it, you know, just ending with the fact, you know, that you, you know, life can get better in every way, emotionally, physically, spiritually, you know, don't give up on yourself is probably my biggest, you know, Don't ever, ever give up on yourself.

1:26:24I love that. I mean, you're a great spokesperson for that for sure. And I love that. And I think it's so easy to be like, oh, my best days are behind me. It's all going in the wrong direction now or, you know, whatever it may be. And I mean, just sitting with you and hearing from you today, I can tell just how real the opposite of that is for you. And it's aspirational, inspiring for me, for sure. because yeah you you continue to live an exciting life and know that there's so much more life to live as opposed to accepting that this is the end or or this may not be and I think it's really interesting I was talking to a friend about this this idea of how we often think we manifest bad things kind of like your sick kid approach like we often think like oh my god I did this to myself and I was talking to a friend about this and this idea of like well if we can do that to ourself then we surely can do the opposite.

1:27:18I just want to get your sense on that. Absolutely. I know that that's a big, that's a big thing happening out there. I mean, you know, I'll just, I can, I'll need to plug my two girls who are my inspiration in my life. And, you know, I feel like I like manifested the relationship with them. Like I can't live without them. And I look up to them and I admire them. and you know I want to be here to be a spokesperson for them so that when they have bad days and they say maybe something like that hey I think I manifested this bad stuff to happen I'm like no you can change that you know you can manifest the good stuff in your life and that's really drives me every day is to be able to like hopefully be there for them to help them manifest the good stuff.

1:28:12Yes, I know that a lot of people feel like they manifest the bad things, but you're right, you can totally change it around. And, you know, I and they're young, and I definitely didn't have the awareness they have in their 20s. I wish I did. I'm really bummed about that. Because I am really in awe of how they function and operate and, you know, how quickly they can turn things around for themselves um and i think they've been through a lot probably that's why but um yeah the manifesting the good stuff i want them and you know when i'm not here later in my life you know i want them to be able to be able to do that easily i love that well i think you set them up for amazing success uh they set me up yeah and i and i didn't start talking about them because i I could have spent the whole episode talking about Jordan.

1:29:01I know, true. But yeah, but thank you so much, Alyssa, for coming on to On Purpose. Everyone who's been listening and watching, make sure you share your favorite insights, moments. I mean, today was a full 360 degree conversation. We went from gut health to detoxing, to cleansing, to plant medicine. I mean, it's beautiful when this happens. And I hope that you're introduced to new modalities. I hope that you allow yourself to be open to new approaches. again we're not recommending that there's one right approach or a wrong approach or however the point is to give you a menu of options and ideas and opportunities because the biggest loss in life is feeling like you only have one way to do something and when that way doesn't work or you've tried it a lot and it still doesn't benefit you that's when we mostly give up and I think recognizing that there's a whole variety of options ideas insights expertise out there actually fills you with more confidence that you'll find your way.

1:30:01Exactly. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. What an honor. That's a joy. Thank you. If you love this episode, you'll enjoy my interview with Dr. Daniel Amen on how to change your life by changing your brain. If we want a healthy mind, it actually starts with a healthy brain. You know, I've had the blessing or the curse to scan over a thousand convicted felons and over 100 murderers and their brains are very damaged. This episode of On Purpose is brought to you by Chase Sapphire Reserve. I believe that travel is one of the greatest gifts that we've ever been given and Chase Sapphire Reserve has been my gateway to the world's most captivating destinations.

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