Jay’s Must-Listens: 7 Transformative Lessons to Build Confidence And Real Self Worth (Ft. Kobe Bryant & Kendall Jenner)

9 Apr 2025 · 45 min

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Podcast Episode Summary: Jay's Must-Listens: 7 Transformative Lessons to Build Confidence And Real Self Worth

Podcast Information

  • Title: On Purpose with Jay Shetty
  • Host: Jay Shetty
  • Episode Title: Jay’s Must-Listens: 7 Transformative Lessons to Build Confidence And Real Self Worth
  • Featured Guests: Kobe Bryant, Kendall Jenner, Lisa Bilyeu, Vanessa Hudgens, Meghan Trainor, Alicia Keys
  • Release Frequency: New episodes every Monday and Friday

Episode Overview In this episode, Jay Shetty delves into the theme of inner confidence, distinguishing it from superficial confidence rooted in external validation. He shares insights from past guests and emphasizes the importance of building confidence through self-trust and purposeful living.

Key Themes

  • Inner Confidence vs. External Validation:
  • Real confidence is built quietly in private moments rather than through public displays or achievements.
  • Personal Journeys:
  • Guests like Kendall Jenner and others discuss their struggles with anxiety and self-worth, highlighting that public personas can mask internal battles.
  • Building Confidence:
  • The episode provides a practical guide on how to foster genuine self-worth through various practices, fostering a long-term mindset of self-improvement.

Key Takeaways

  1. Understanding Confidence
  2. Not Born, But Built: Confidence is not an innate trait but something that is cultivated over time through experiences and self-acceptance.
  3. Self-Worth: True self-worth stems from one’s core beliefs about themselves rather than achievements.
  1. Action Before Confidence
  2. Act First: One of the main suggestions is to take action to build confidence rather than waiting to feel confident before acting.
  3. Competence Leads to Confidence: Engaging in practices and facing challenges repeatedly builds competence, which in turn fosters confidence.
  1. Daily Practices to Boost Confidence
  2. Establish Routines: Create daily confidence-boosting practices that involve self-affirmation and self-care.
  3. Repetition and Consistency: Confidence grows through repeated actions that prove to oneself that they can handle challenges.
  1. Self-Awareness and Self-Reflection
  2. Anchor to Purpose: Align self-worth with personal values and purpose rather than seeking validation from others.
  3. Mindful Living: Engage in practices that bring awareness and mindfulness into daily life, such as meditation or journaling.
  1. Overcoming Self-Doubt
  2. Transforming Self-Doubt: Convert self-doubt into self-discipline by committing to consistent practice and self-improvement.
  3. Understanding the Nature of Comparison: Recognize that true self-worth does not come from comparison but from understanding one’s unique journey.

Notable Insights from Guests

  • Kendall Jenner: Opened up about managing anxiety and the importance of setting boundaries in a public life.
  • Lisa Bilyeu: Discussed how confidence is a muscle that must be exercised through action and practice.
  • Alicia Keys: Shared her journey of dealing with stress and anxiety, emphasizing the need for soul care and self-awareness.

Conclusion The episode serves as a motivational reset for those struggling with self-doubt, encouraging listeners to find confidence rooted in their truth rather than external validation. Jay Shetty emphasizes that confidence is about trusting oneself to navigate life’s challenges effectively.

Final Thoughts Jay Shetty closes the episode by reminding listeners that confidence is built in the quiet moments and is about how you show up for yourself. He encourages sharing the insights from this episode with anyone who might benefit from the message.

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2:05Confidence is something we all struggle with at some point. But where does confidence come from? How do we build it in a way that feels genuine and lasting? The number one health and wellness podcast. Jay Shetty. Jay Shetty. The one, the only Jay Shetty. Welcome back to On Purpose. Today we're talking about something that impacts every decision we make, our confidence and self-worth. We all struggle with it at some point, questioning if we're good enough, smart enough, or capable enough. Maybe it started in childhood, or maybe over time life's challenges have made us second guess ourselves. But here's the truth.

2:48Confidence isn't something you're just born with. It's something you build. And self-worth isn't just about your accomplishments or success It's about how you see yourself at your core In this episode, I've gathered insights from some of the best minds To help you quiet self-doubt, recognize your true value And step into the confidence that's already in you Because when you truly believe in yourself, everything changes So often when we're searching for confidence and self-worth it's easy to feel pressured, to try every new trend or practice, as if there's a perfect formula for feeling secure in ourselves.

3:30But real confidence isn't about following the crowd. It's about tuning out the noise and figuring out what truly works for you. Kendall Jenner knows that pressure all too well. Having spent most of her life in the public eye, she's had to learn how to protect her peace, set boundaries, and find joy in the simple things. In this conversation, she opens up about her journey to staying grounded and true to herself. Let's get into it. Had had a lot of people coming to me telling me about meditation and how it changed their life and therapy and so many different things. And I was a bit overwhelmed because I was like, oh my God, what of this is going to suit me?

4:12I think it's a very personal experience. I think everybody has a very different version of all of that stuff. And so it was a little overwhelming. So I think I really just took the time to be off for a second. It was even the little things. It was like being able to go to my friend's birthday party, which I wouldn't have been able to go to before because I was working a lot. I love hearing that because I think it is those simple things like, you know, giving yourself that space, whatever it is that you needed to do when you needed it. And like you said, sometimes it's like, that's when all the subscribe buttons come up in front of you.

4:44And it's like, try this and try this. And it's like, well, no, no, no. Let me just take my time. It was also now that I think about it. Yeah. 23. I'm 26. I've had my horse for. So around that time is when I bought the horse that I have now, who is my like I jump her and I like how I have two other horses, but they're like retired. So I don't really ride them the same way I ride her. So yeah, I guess it was around that time, too, that I was like, I'm going to do this because I love this. And like, I want to get back into it. And this is what I've loved my whole life. So, so it was around that time that I feel like all of that started happening and I bought my horse and I like started taking more time for things that made me really happy.

5:24Yeah. What I, what I'm noticing in you and observing, or at least from just these, no, in a good way, in a good way. I was just saying, it's like, it feels like no matter what's happening in your orbit, there's this pillar of belief that it's important to be happy. Yeah. Like, you know, that's like this core center belief in your life where it's like, it's important to be happy. It's important to be happy. That has to be the goal. For sure. And, you know, it's not always easy. We live in such an interesting industry and in such an interesting time with social media that it can be very hard sometimes.

6:03You can fall victim to so many things that don't serve you and that don't make you happy. if your happiness depends on the actions of others you know you're at mercy of things that you can't control and that's never where i want to be so i always want to live in like me and my therapist talk about like my higher goddess my higher self like i always want to live there knowing that you know when i'm there you can't take that away from me that that's mine and no matter what you can disagree with me you can agree with me that's not going my i'm not changing i'm not shifting i'm here i'm in my higher goddess so i kind of i always live by like keep holding my happiness and not letting anyone else affect it and though i fall victim to it at times of course we as we all probably do absolutely i um i strive every day to live in that place so what what are some of the qualities of your higher goddess so that that kind of uh avatar like She's awesome.

7:07Like I said, I don't love a pity party. I also like, you know, sometimes it feels weird to like say good things about yourself, but I've also learned a lot about talking to myself and a lot about looking in the mirror and being like, you're great. You're gorgeous. You're amazing. You're loyal. You're positive. You're so many, like, I love words of affirmation. I love just sitting there and reassuring myself of who I am because that's another thing for me. You know, There's so many false narratives about me, about all of us, I'm sure. So many people think they have you figured out when they don't even know the half of it.

7:46So sitting there and being like, you get frustrated sometimes. It could feel really unfair. You could be reading something that someone is saying about you or hearing something that someone's saying about you and being like, that is so unfair because that's not who I am. And that really gets to me sometimes and that really sucks. But then looking at myself in the mirror and being like, but I know who I am and that's all why does anything else matter and my friends know who I am and my family knows who I am my dog knows who I am my horse knows who I am like why does any of everything else is just noise I I do this exercise I don't think I've shared this before but I do this exercise with some of my clients where we'll go on a walk and we'll be on a hike wherever we are and I'll ask them what they think a piece of you know maybe there's a little leaf or maybe there's some a flower or something that looks a little unique on the path and i'll say what do you think that feels like and what do you think it would feel like if you picked it up in your hand and they'll be like oh it looks really rough and like it might scratch me and like it looks like a bit you know like uneven or whatever and it looks kind of hard and strong and then i'll ask them to pick it up and nine times out of ten it's completely different like they'll pick it up and it'll just dissolve in their hands or they'll turn it over and the color's really soft and sorry the shape the shape's really soft and the color's totally different on the other side and i do that exercise to help us realize just how multifaceted humans are yeah today i've got to meet you and and obviously we're spending a lot of deep intimate vulnerable time together so you learn faster about someone but if someone only follows someone on social media or only sees someone at an event or only sees one interview it's so easy to create such a singular view of someone right and i think and i want to say this because i really think we all feel it i don't think anyone wants to be seen in a singular way if you had to choose one word that had to be you for the rest of your life i don't think anyone wants that i think we all know that we're messy and complex and different of course but we like to put someone else in a box whoever that may be because it's easier then to live life and say okay well that's persons a b right you know so there's this beautiful piece of wisdom that i always share from charles horton cooley and he wrote this in 1890 i think it was which just shows how true this has been for such a long time and obviously long before that as well and he said the challenge today is i'm not what i think i am i'm not what you think i am i am what i think you think i am and we'll let that blow everyone's mind it gives me chills every time i say it yeah charles hilton cooley said the challenge today is i'm not what i think i am i'm not what you think i am i am what i think you think i am and what he's trying to say is that we live in a perception of a perception of ourselves so if i think you think I'm smart then I allow myself to feel smart right it's like we need that validation or if I think you think I'm not smart then I feel hurt yeah and and the challenge is I don't know what you're thinking at all especially outside in the world and so I find that what you're saying around like well what do I think about myself like how do I feel about myself how do the people that actually know me feel about me I think that's really empowering there are times in life when we feel disconnected from ourselves, as if we've lost our sense of who we are.

11:14It can happen after a big life change, the grind of a demanding job, or even just getting stuck in the routine of everyday life. For Vanessa Hudgens, that moment came after filming a series of emotionally intense movies. She found herself questioning her identity and searching for a way to reconnect. Instead of staying in that uncertainty, she took a leap, one that felt scary but ultimately led her back to herself. Let's dive into how stepping outside her comfort zone helped her rediscover her confidence and self-worth. I feel like my first solo trip was when I was like, it was right after I did a stint of like really heavy, emotionally demanding movies.

12:03um I think give me shelter was the last one of that um and I came home and I like genuinely did not know who Vanessa was I had like gotten so off on becoming this other person and like genuinely changed my mindset the way that I looked I put on like 20 pounds cut off all my hair Like all the things that made me me were not there anymore. And I was like, I need to do something because I'm like scared because I don't know who I am. And I was like, OK, we're going to go on a yoga retreat. My my publicist at the time was like, there's this retreat they're doing at the Four Seasons. It was like a practice.

12:52And I was like, OK, I'm just going to like go on my own because that scares me. and I was very much in that place of like do the things that scare you because you will evolve like you're forced to um and I was like you know like a yoga retreat in Hawaii like that gives me an excuse to be in Hawaii um but also like have something to do and like know that I'll be around people because like filming as well as an adult like when I hit 18 I would go off to film things all the time and I would be on my own. And so like, if I wanted to go to dinner, like a lot of times I would just go by myself and like bring a book.

13:30And I, I definitely would have those moments where I'm like looking around, like kind of trying to like lock eyes and engage with anyone. Preferably would sit at the bar. So I could like talk to the bartender. Cause like, I love, I love people. Like I love, I love just like talking to people. Yeah. But you start using a different part of your brain when you do that like you start using a different part of your energy where it's like oh i'm gonna see if i can make something out of nothing yeah that's a mindset that you lose as we get older that's because most of your life is surrounded by the same people same work people same life people and so like when you're like oh i'm trying to talk to the bartender i'm trying to lock even the idea of locking eyes with someone random oh my gosh yeah but it's my favorite thing i literally will like be driving and like will like turn and just like look at people if I'm stopping a red light and like try to like dance with people the other day this guy was like listening to a song we had our windows down he had his windows down and me and my girlfriend were just like body rolling like just like locking eyes trying to make this person laugh like it's I love that but the trip the yoga retreat in Hawaii ended up just being like so freeing because I was just like okay like I'm here on my own like I'm just gonna like talk to people that I connect with and like go from there and like genuinely forced me to stay as present as possible because I was engaging with people I know nothing about I feel like that's the thing I love about talking to people that you don't know like you're forced to be present because it's like if you're actually trying to engage which not everybody does but then those are the people you don't need to engage with um but when you find people who you can like it's you sit you're so present because you're actually listening yeah i couldn't be more excited to share something truly special with all you tea lovers out there and even if you don't love tea if you love refreshing rejuvenating refueling sodas that are good for you listen to this radhi and i poured our hearts into creating juni sparkling tea with adaptogens for you because we believe in nurturing your body and with every sip you'll experience calmness of mind, a refreshing vitality and a burst of brightness to your day.

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16:37That's drinkjuni.com and make sure you use the code ONPURPOSE. Confidence is something we all struggle with at some point, but where does confidence come from? How do we build it in a way that feels genuine and lasting? Claudia Oshry, comedian, podcast host, and social media personality gets candid about her journey with self-image and how love played a role in shaping her confidence. I really want you to hear her story. Like, what would you say to someone who maybe doesn't have, doesn't want to go on a Zen pic because they're scared or whatever it may be, but like, what would you say with them?

17:18So I feel like people don't like my answer because when I was like struggling with my self-image, I feel like I'm going to cry now, Sorry. So much of my confidence, I would say, like, all of it came from the fact that I had a husband or a boyfriend at the time, fiancé, who loved me so much. And he thought I was, like, the greatest thing. And so if he thought it, and look at him, like, I just, I love him so much. And so he thinks I'm so great. Like, that's not that you should get your confidence from a man, whatever. But, like, I did. Just to be loved so unequivocally by somebody who I think is so great, that gave me a lot of confidence.

17:53Like he thought I was the best. He thought I was the smartest. He thought I was the prettiest. So like I was because his opinion is the only one that matters. But also like I look at him and I think of him as like so charming, attractive. Like who wouldn't want to marry him? And he likes me? Like, oh my God, I must be like the greatest thing ever. And I really feel like so much of my confidence. And it's so funny because he says that he gets confidence from me, which I feel like really happy that it's a two-way street. But having a relationship that I felt really solid about, but also somebody who just loved me so much, really, um, it just made me believe, like, what he was saying.

18:27Do you know what I mean? What's interesting to me is just so much of how, whether it's body shaming we do to ourselves or that society does to us, how so much of it is built up around aesthetics and visuals and how health and vitality are actually not based on simply visuals. No, but I will say visually at the time, like, if you were to just compare me visually now and me visually then, like, I was very unhealthy. Like, I had a lot of random medical issues that, like, a 25-year-old girl shouldn't be having. So I agree with you that, like, a lot of times we judge people's health based on their weight, and that's not the case for everyone.

19:05But to be clear, like, it was the case for me. Like, I was not healthy. I did not walk to work. Like, I was really, like, living a very inactive, unhealthy lifestyle. That's not the case for everyone you see who's overweight, but that was 1 ,000 % the case for me. Yeah, and now what's the new schedule? Oh, bitch. Well, now I'm pregnant. So like, it's kind of reverted back. But so not pregnancy wise. I just really like lead my day with little pockets of activity. I think that like, going to meetings, going to work, like I'm always being like, okay, I'll walk. I worked out like before I got pregnant, I worked out like, you know, three to five times a week.

19:40I would spend my weekends like doing things that I enjoy whilst being active like going for walks in the park with Ben just like making sure that I wasn't rotting in bed as much as I can I'm capable of because I'm capable of a great deal of rotting and then with meals that's really where I probably struggled the most but just just trying to be a little bit more well-rounded I feel like I eat like a six-year-old and so I do like I eat rice and chicken fingers and so just changing sometimes to like brown rice and grilled chicken, you know? Thinking a little bit more, but it's hard because I'm such a picky eater that, you know, I'm not going to be making bronzino on the weekends with like a tapenade, you know?

20:19That's never going to happen. I don't even know what tapenade is. And then, I mean, as I'm hearing you speak, I'm just like, is there a, a lot of people talk about this right now, like this idea of when you become pregnant, is there like a loss of the life you had like is there a feeling of like wait a minute just a few moments ago a few months ago I was I would say I don't feel I really I mean I've been married for a hundred years and we decided to wait to have kids and I think that because we made that choice I am now not spending my pregnancy and you know hopefully the next year or two mourning a life I feel like I lived life to the fullest.

21:01And I really, really waited till I was ready. So the only thing I feel like I'm mourning is my body. Like that, nobody talks enough about like what it's like to lose significant weight and then get pregnant. I don't know how I feel about it. I don't have like fully fleshed that out. I'm like struggling every single day. But no, I don't, I don't feel sad about like a life left behind. I feel like I lived every minute of my twenties, like on the edge of cliffs, going on trips, partying, like doing everything I wanted to do. And when I turned 30 over the summer, I was like, you know what? I'm done.

21:33Like I really feel, and that's what I'm so happy about because yeah, I like see my friends with kids and I'm like, oh, I do wish I had like, you know, joined them. But I feel so fulfilled in that one chapter of my life that I'm really ready to start the next chapter. We often think about self-care as something external, our skincare routine, our diet or exercise. But what about caring for our soul? How do we create rituals that nurture not just our body, but our peace of mind and self-worth. To share her journey, Alicia Keys, Grammy-winning artist, entrepreneur, and advocate for soul care, Alicia opens up about her struggles with anxiety, how stress affected her skin, and how she turned her personal healing process into a philosophy that helps others.

22:19Listen to this. I think often those of us who live spiritual lives, we can be quite negligent of our casing out of this body. And you can, you can kind of disconnect from it. Yeah. Disconnect from it. And so I wanted to ask you, how has your relationship changed with your skin? That was something that brought you anxiety to feeling more confident in your skin? I mean, it was forever. It was literally forever that I really struggled with my skin. And, you know, you're a teenager and you have hormones and you get it and it's cool. And then all of a sudden I was like 18 and then I was 23 and then I was 28 and then I was 30 and then I was like 35.

23:05And I'm like, whoa, when does this thing stop? Like when? I thought like 16, 18, 21 maybe. Why is it continuing? And it was really hard to, especially to be in spaces where you would present yourself and you would feel just so self-conscious. I just felt so self-conscious. And I'm like, but there's a big bump right here. And then most people are like, I don't even see the damn bump, but I see the bump right here and it's huge. And it feels really uncomfortable. You know, you just feel uncomfortable. You want to know why, too. You want to know what's the matter. Is something wrong? Why am I thought?

23:47What can I do to help this? And so that definitely caused me a lot of anxiety. I started in the music world when I was 18. And so that was right kind of at the precipice. And then the stress of the whole universe of music was just so much. And I was trying my best to play it cool. I'm like, I can handle it. I can do it. But it was stressful. It was a whole new world. I had to carry a new weight on my shoulders and try to, you know, kind of like be calm or cool while doing it. And it was tricky in my skin. I learned that my body reacts to stress. Our bodies react to stress. My personal body physically reacts to stress.

24:31Many of our personal bodies do this, which is obviously why even many dis-eases come to us from stress because physically it's a physical manifestation of this feeling, which is why it is so important for us to figure out like what gives you peace, what calms you down, what makes you feel safe and like you're in your skin and you're yourself and these type of things. And so, of course, I didn't know what that was for a long time, but I realized that it was these relationships I was attracting and it was the, you know, the level of commitment I was agreeing to that left no space for me to reflect or to sleep or to be with my friends and, you know, do those, have those outlets that do give you a sense of, of calm.

25:25And so my skin was so reactive that I said one day to myself, if I one day I'm going to make something that fixes this, this, I'm going to do something about this because I know I'm not the only one. And I realized as I began to live and experience so many different parts of my life, motherhood and raising young kids and finding time for yourself and getting rid of those toxic energies that were attacking me in real life, I realized that you really have to take care of your soul. Like you have to take care of your soul. So this philosophy of soul care really came from all of these understandings and all of these realisings that no one's going to do it for me.

26:17Like, no, as much as I really, really wish someone would stand up and be like, you, you're not good for her. Get out of here. That thing, you, you need to stop. No, I have to be the judge of that. And therefore, I have to find my way to the understanding of how do I hear myself to know what is good and what is not or what is real or what is true. And so there were many things that brought me to that place. Some of them were meditations that brought me there and really brought me to a more intuitive space. Some of them were just practicing the art of like, no, what do you think? No, I know six friends said this.

26:53or I know that very strong energy that always tells everybody what they think said this, but what do you think? And that became the practice of soul care and also these ideas of ancient rituals and what are some special ways that we can have peace and calm? And I was attracted to crystals and their powers and their meanings. I was attracted to journaling and I have a very difficult time. As a kid, I had a difficult time expressing my truth. And I realized that when I would journal or do this stream of consciousness, I could actually just release it. I could let it go. And if I'm not good at doing that to someone else because I didn't trust as fully, I can do it with myself.

27:34And so these practices of how do you kind of like depend on yourself to find your own grounding became my idea of what soul care is, which eventually became how I said, I'm going to make that thing to fix that thing, became this key soul care. And the idea was, to me, it's a philosophy. It's a way of life. It's a lifestyle. To me, the beauty industry or skincare industry, just like the music industry, all of it is kind of creating how to live within the chaos. And so how do we do it? Nobody teaches us normally. It's a blessing if someone does, but normally it's not. So finding these ways through affirmations, through the idea of really connecting to yourself and using the affirmations on every bottle because the idea is you wash your face, you do that every day with the golden cleanser.

28:29You can also think about how I'm devoted to this moment because so many times we're over here, over there, back there, over there. How can you just be right here with yourself right now? And so the idea is like creating this mixture of ancient rituals and where skin meets soul and soul care because we have air care, hair care, nail care, body care, home care, but we never had soul care. Why? So I wanted to start it. Parking shouldn't slow you down. ParkWiz gives every driver a shortcut. Book ahead, save up to 50 % and skip the hassle of circling the block. Park smarter, park faster. ParkWiz. Download the ParkWiz app today and save every time you park.

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30:46Yeah, that's so beautiful. I mean, I couldn't agree more. As someone who was very negligent of a lot of this stuff, like growing up and not really thinking about it, I've seen the value of, I'm a big fan of affirmations. I think even when it comes to cleansing my face, what that means, what that feels like, how different I feel internally because of it, how it can be a reminder to continue to cleanse and detox the soul as well as that which is around me. There's so much of that connection from body, mind, spirit, and soul that I think we lose and we don't realize how interconnected they all are.

31:26Confidence is something we all strive for, but often misunderstand. We think we need it before taking action. But what if the key is to act first, even when we don't feel ready? What if confidence is something we build as we go, not something we wait for? To help us break through the myths of confidence, we have Lisa Bilyeu, entrepreneur, best-selling author, and co-founder of Impact Theory. Lisa's journey from stay-at-home wife to powerhouse businesswoman has given her a unique perspective on what it really takes to build confidence from within. Let's hear what she has to say. So I think confidence is such a important and powerful topic.

32:10I wanted to ask you, because I think there's so much material and you do so many interviews around confidence and what it means and what it feels like. How do you define confidence for you? And what does it mean to you? And what is something that people can think of? Because I think everyone has a different view of the word confidence. Yeah, I think most people actually have the misinterpretation of what confidence actually is. Because they usually, and I was culprit of this when I was a stay-at-home wife for eight years, I thought I needed it to get started. And I thought I needed the confidence to live out my dreams, to actually go towards my goals, and I was waiting to have the confidence.

32:47And that, I think, is a complete misconception is what actually is holding so many of us back from trying anything. And what I realized was in my own journey, I actually just need to take action. I needed to go into something very insecure, not knowing what I was doing, practicing, practicing, practicing, you know, wax on, wax off my favorite movie, Karate Kid, and get so damn good that I build the competence to then lead to confidence. So the truth is the confidence is the byproduct of taking action. And a lot of us don't think of it like that. We think it's going to be the magic bullet that's going to get us to actually take that action at the beginning.

33:22And so that's where I actually reshaped and how I rethought of the word confidence. And then also for me, confidence is like a muscle. If you don't keep practicing it, you won't actually get strong at it. And if you stop practicing, you will get weaker. and just like when you go to the gym you may practice like your biceps or your legs it's a different mechanism to practice working your calves then practicing your bicep so that is what confidence is it's not you get confidence in one area and you're good to go yeah it's like you get confidence maybe in being in front of the camera but being in front of the camera as you know jay is very different than being on stage so when someone sees maybe you've got confidence in one area it doesn't mean that you've got confidence everywhere else and i think people if it's you and you're thinking about it, you may then think that you're incompetent or you're no good or like, it's just, well, I don't have the genes, so I may as well not get started.

34:17But the truth is, identify where you want the confidence, get started, build that competence, and then eventually it will breed confidence. Yeah, absolutely. I couldn't agree with you more. I remember once looking at the definition of confidence in the dictionary. And one of the definitions is an appreciation of one's own abilities, skills, and qualities. I was like, I really like that definition. Like it's actually self-validation. Like confidence is being able to look at yourself and say, I'm good at this. I'm actually a kind person. I'm a thoughtful person. I am a good public speaker. I am a bestselling author, whatever it may be.

35:00And you're almost validating a skill, quality or attribute you have by yourself. and I think it's so interesting and you're right I think we viewed confidence as how do other people feel about us so we look at it as like oh that person looks so confident because they're like walking out their car they got that swag they're like dripping in great clothes or whatever it may be and we see that as confidence but we know that that person could be sitting in there going oh I'm not the right size I'm overweight, underweight I'm whatever else it may be and criticizing themselves. I was wondering what is something that took you the longest in your life to build confidence around?

35:41Oh, I'm ever evolving, but I think it really was to believe in myself that I'm capable. And that all started from, because I was a stay-at-home wife for eight years, and I want to just make sure that I say this though, there's nothing wrong with being a stay-at-home wife at all. It's actually one of the hardest jobs that was for me, but I didn't want it. That actually wasn't my dream. I felt like it was sucking the life out of me. So as that staying home wife, I didn't make any change because I didn't feel like I was capable of anything because I was so insecure. That voice in my head was so negative, Jay, telling me all the reasons why I was no good to try anything.

36:15And so in order for me to build my confidence to move forward, I was like, well, what if I am bad? Who cares? You have to actually practice. Why do I think that I can be amazing at something, right? If someone looks at you and they're like, oh my God, he's such an amazing podcaster. How long have you been doing it? Years and years and years and years. So when someone looks at you and let's say they're comparing their beginning to your middle or your end, you will feel incompetent. And so for me, I had to stop looking outside of myself for all the amazing people because I believed I wasn't good enough to try.

36:46And so I had to build the internal confidence to take that action, to actually just try and understand that it's going to be a process. And without that, I never would have got out of what I call purgatory of the mundane, where my life is just mundane enough. And so I'm just stuck there day in and day out. And that idea that even if you don't feel good enough, you can still take action, I think was the biggest thing that was the hardest for me because I didn't want to get bullied. I was already bullied as a kid for my looks from other women. So you can imagine me trying anything, that fear of being bullied from other girls was so petrifying that I didn't even want to take a chance.

37:23And so realizing, A, I have to build that within myself. And you said the word validate actually earlier. That word really sticks with me because I think a lot of us wait for validation, external validation. We wait for someone to tell us that we're a good Greek wife or an amazing husband or a fantastic wife. And that can actually hold us where we are. Because I was so seeking validation from everybody else. And at the time I was getting validation for being that stay-at-home wife. And so you can imagine I have low self-esteem. I don't believe in myself. I don't think I'm good enough. And everyone's validating me for this one thing, even though I don't like that one thing, that validation, that feeling good about yourself is what kept me there.

38:07So I think the trick is, is how do you make sure that you validate yourself? And that became the path for me building my confidence every single day. What am I going to do today to validate myself, not get validation from my partner, from my boyfriend, from the extra, how many likes I got on Instagram. No, no. How can I validate myself? And that became my North Star versus everyone else making me feel good about myself. Absolutely. Parking shouldn't slow you down. ParkWiz gives every driver a shortcut. Book ahead, save up to 50 % and skip the hassle of circling the block. Park smarter, park faster.

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39:22Confidence isn't something that just appears overnight. It's built through experiences, setbacks, and self-acceptance. For Meghan Trainor, that journey started with a song she never thought anyone would hear. What began as a fun, personal expression turned into an anthem that resonated with millions. But even after hitting number one, she found herself still chasing validation instead of trusting her own instincts. Let's hear how she learned to let go of expectations and embrace her true confidence. Well, back then, I was a songwriter writing for other artists. So I was thinking like, what's not on the radio and what could be on the radio?

40:08But when I wrote all about that bass, it was like a joke. like it was like i was like no one's gonna cut this we've wasted a day of work and we'll just write a therapy song for us like because the co-writer was like a man and it was the first time meeting him so it's kind of like a blind date and you're like where'd you grow up how are and we both were like we were chubby kids and we had to learn how to love ourselves and i was like how funny would it be that's like i ain't no size too but i can't shake it shake it and i'm like i'm not a confident dancer that dances in front of everyone but imagine if I was and I remember being like I'll sing the demo who cares and it was like a raw demo with no autotune and nothing but the lyrics hit so many people that they're like this is going to be huge who's singing it we'll just let her do it so it was really from like a weird raw place like I wasn't chasing radio I wasn't and I fell into that before when you talk about competition I didn't know about charts and all that stuff when they're like you're number one i was like fantastic like what is that like number one everywhere they're like everywhere i was like well that was easy so then anytime i did another song i was like it's not number one everywhere what do you mean like and then i was like well maybe i'm not doing what's on the radio and then i caught myself chasing radio and just falling on my face so with this new album taking it back i was like i'm gonna go back to when i I did doo-wop and just didn't care about any charts and anything and just do me.

41:34Yeah. And you'll hear that come out. And the first song they put out was an emo, toxic relationship song. I was like, oh, okay. Coming out passionate. And so it sounds like it's always been a raw emotion that's gone out. And now you're taking it back and you're going back to that. And you're really earning that. Like with this new album, would you say that we're hearing you through the healing process? Are we hearing you healed? Are we hearing you on the other side? you're hearing you're hearing a healed mature mother who um is just ruthlessly honest you know like one song don't i make it look easy that i teased today on my instagram um is like talking about don't i make this look easy like everything's perfect because everyone who interviews me is like you are so fun and you have the best family and best life and i'm like i cry so much you just don't know it because i don't film myself and post it you know so i say in the first verse like i posted a picture i read all the comments i hearted the good ones and if i'm being honest i probably spent an hour on it yeah and then i'm like and it's just like a fun way of being ruthlessly honest ruthlessly that's not a word but brutally honest yeah true confidence doesn't just come from winning it comes from how you handle the losses it's about resilience picking yourself back up when things don't go your way and having the determination to keep pushing forward.

42:59Kobe Bryant understood this better than most. He wasn't always the strongest or the fastest, but he built confidence by prioritizing long-term growth over immediate results. He knew that self-worth isn't defined by where you are today. It's about your commitment to improvement. Let's hear how he developed that mindset. And you talk about that because you talk about, you know, when you talk about missing five throws and you talk about getting over yourself. Yeah. Right? Like getting over yourself. How did you get that mentality of just being like, I need to get over this. Like I need to get over myself.

43:33You know, trial and error. You know, you grow up and you make game winning shots and it's awesome. And you come back the next day and miss a game winning shot and it's misery. And then the next day comes and you're back playing again. And you understand that life has this cyclical nature where it's, you know, what you do on Monday is fantastic. But then Tuesday is a bad day. But guess what? There's Wednesday. So are we just supposed to live our lives like this the whole time? You know, versus just staying like this and understanding that it's really just a journey of evolution every day. It's just constant improvement, constant curiosity, constantly getting better.

44:04The results don't really matter. It's the figuring out that matters. Yeah. And we all get obsessed about the results. Yeah. Like we get obsessed about like the output. Yeah. Not the input of not figuring it out and not like changing things. What you said, trial and error, like the experimenting. Yeah. We forget to do that. It's unfortunate, man. Like I've seen a lot of players, especially now, you know, in youth basketball dealing with that. You have players that are like bigger and faster and stronger. And, you know, their coaches are just coaching them for results. You know, we're just going to use your size because you're bigger than every other 12-year-old out there to dominate today.

44:41But they're not growing. Right? So they're just based on that result. But they're not focused on growing this young child into becoming a veteran athlete. and through that, teaching them how to become a more well-rounded person. And we're missing that. Yeah. See what you've said there, just, I want to ask you this and I'm not saying, cause I, you know, like you know yourself best and you know how you've got there. So I'm asking it from a place of humility of learning. When I look at you, I'm like, you know, your superpower isn't just your work ethic. Your superpower isn't just like figuring things out.

45:12Your superpower is like, you think strategically, Like that's a very strategic thought of saying this person could be this in the future if they were developed as a whole individual. Right. Rather than just like, let's use them for the short term. Right. Where did you develop that from, that ability to see beyond, to think deeper, to reflect deeper? Where did that come from? Well, I had to do that because, you know, I grew up, growing up in Italy, when I first moved over there, it was, you know, I didn't speak Italian. I didn't have any friends. You know, I had the game of basketball and through sport and playing soccer, I was able to make friends and build connections.

45:46But it was a lot of time spent alone. And when I came back to the States, I wasn't the most athletic kid. You know, I was really scrawny, like really, really skinny and had like major knee issues because I was growing. So I was the dorky kid with high socks and big old knee pads. It's fashionable now. It's fashionable now. It wasn't in. It wasn't in. And so I had to look long term because in the here and now, I couldn't compete with these kids. I mean, there's kids that were like 12 years old with beards. Like I can't. What am I supposed to do with that? Like they're doing windmills and dunking backwards and I'm happy to like tap the backboard, you know.

46:23So I had to look at it from a long term because I wasn't going to give up on the game. So I had to say, okay, this year I'm going to get better at that. Next year, this. And then so forth and so on. And then patiently I was able to catch them. Yeah. That's, I love hearing that because I think so many of us kind of, you believe like when you see people like yourself, it's like, it's so easy as an excuse to ourselves to just be, oh, you're destined for it, right? You were made for it. It's kind of like that kind of, you know, like, oh yeah. You know, but, but when you talk about saying, oh, actually when I started, I didn't have the physicality that meant that I was going to make it.

46:56Like you had to figure it out. And I love it. Figure it out, man. It's just piece by piece. And it's the consistency of the work, which I feel like a lot of parents are missing today because we're not teaching that to our kids. We tend to say like kids don't want to do the work, but in reality, it's when we're failing them because we're not leading them the right way and teaching them, you know, how to fish. You know what I mean? And so like the consistency of work, Monday, get better. Tuesday, get better. Wednesday, get better, right? And you do that over a period of time, you know, not like one month or two months.

47:28I mean, it's three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten years. And then, you know, you can get to where you want to go. Confidence isn't about walking into a room and thinking you're the best. It's about not feeling the need to compare yourself to anyone. True self-worth comes from knowing who you are, not just what you accomplish. It's built in the quiet moments, how you show up for yourself, and the way you speak to yourself when no one's around. I hope this episode helped you realize that confidence isn't about having all the answers. It's about trusting yourself to figure it out. If something resonated with you, share it with someone who needs to hear it.

48:07And I'll see you next time on On Purpose. If you love this episode, you'll really enjoy my episode with Selena Gomez on befriending your inner critic and how to speak to yourself with more compassion. My fears are only going to continue to show me what I'm capable of. The more that I face my fears, the more that I feel I'm gaining strength, I'm gaining wisdom, and I just want to keep doing that. Parking shouldn't slow you down. ParkWiz gives every driver a shortcut. Book ahead, save up to 50%, and skip the hassle of circling the block. Park smarter, park faster. ParkWiz. Download the ParkWiz app today and save every time you park.

48:49I'm Radhi Dvlukia and I'm the host of A Really Good Cry podcast. And I have the opportunity to talk to Logan Uri. If you're out there trying to date right now, being ghosted on Hinge or want to create a dating profile that gives you a solid chance of matching with someone you actually want to go on a date with, then this episode with Hinge's Director of Relationship Science, Logan Uri, is definitely for you. Relationships do require work. The best relationships are people who really work on them together. Listen to A Really Good Cry on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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From the publisher

Do you ever pretend to be confident when you’re not?

When do you feel most confident?

What if real confidence isn’t loud or visible—but built quietly in the moments no one else sees? In today's Jay's Must-Listens, Jay explores the powerful theme of inner confidence—not the kind rooted in outside validation or achievements, but the kind built slowly through learning to trust yourself, commitment to showing up, and living with purpose.

Throughout the episode, Jay draws from powerful moments with past guests and their helpful insights. He shares a moment from his conversation with Kendall Jenner, where she opened up about experiencing anxiety and how even people who appear confident outwardly are often battling internal struggles. Jay also references insights from Lisa Bilyeu, who spoke about repetition and how confidence is built by proving to yourself—again and again—that you can do hard things. 

In this episode, you'll learn:

How to Build Confidence Without External Validation

How to Create a Daily Confidence-Boosting Practice

How to Turn Self-Doubt into Self-Discipline

How to Build Confidence Through Repetition and Consistency

How to Anchor Yourself with Purpose, Not Praise

How to Redefine Confidence as Clarity and Alignment

This episode is both a motivational reset and a practical guide for anyone who’s ready to stop doubting themselves or seeking outside validation and start rooting their confidence in something far more lasting: their own truth.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty.

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Join Jay for his first ever, On Purpose Live Tour! Tickets are on sale now. Hope to see you there! 

What We Discuss: 

00:00 Intro 

01:43 Find What Makes You Happy and Do That

04:44 How To Start Believing in Yourself

09:34 Doing Things that Scare You is Worth the Risk

13:26 Genuine Love Should Boost Your Confidence

16:41 Staying Confident When Your Body Is Changing 

18:52 How Stress Can Manifest In Your Body 

26:32 Don’t Wait To Take Action 

29:59 This is How You Build Real Confidence From Within

33:33 The Song I Made Just For Me That Changed Everything

35:28 Healing and Maturing Through Motherhood 

36:55 Every Day Is A Chance For Progress

39:01 Stay Consistent In Improving Yourself

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