Orlando Bloom: 3 Reasons Why You Need to Allow Yourself to Make Mistakes & Shift Your Perspective on Fear

49:42Have you, what have you, what scared you about relationships? And what, like you said, you had no problem with women. That wasn't a thing, but what was revealed to you in your relationship? Yeah. What's been revealed to you in your relationship is a better question. I think I'm constantly learning to let go. Because anything that I try to hold on to, whether it's good or bad, doesn't serve me. Not in a relationship. And it doesn't really serve either of us. And that's really hard to keep letting go. and to keep letting her go. You know, the idea of, because I think when you're in a deeply loving, committed relationship, you want to control or own or have or, and, you know, even just letting go of ideas of how things should be or the idea of what intimacy or intimate moments are to you versus them or how, you know, whatever it may be, because everybody because you've chosen that person you're on a journey with that person you know you're gonna learn this lesson and if you've chosen that person then that's the person you're gonna learn that lesson with you know i mean that's the opportunity right that's real yeah that's that that really resonates i i feel like that's why we'd rather let go of the person and have a new six month period with someone new because you don't have to let go in that six months like that six months is almost full of holding on and every idea and every hope and possibility remains intact like you don't have to dismantle it or question it or break it down but you are so right that the amount of misconceptions i've had to let go of as we spend more time together and i think it's going to change every day right absolutely it's like every day you choose i choose you yeah you know because also you know your wife is changing right seven years from now she's going to be a completely different human yeah you have no idea right you know you can i mean you you you clearly have been around each other and you do probably know have a sense but we don't know you don't know it's the same thing as like i may never see that person again yeah every day it may you may never see that version of that person again or you know whatever it may be but like yeah we're just you know we have we i'm forced i i i seize the opportunity every day to grow and as you see from the show i'll never choose the uh the past the easy path you know like it's just not who i am yeah and you know in some ways my relationship is the greatest opportunity for my continual growth and you know and i know we both see it that way so that's how we grow and we do and she will not you know she'll hold me accountable and i'll do the same and sometimes you know you'll be confronted by your own self you know and i think you know yeah trust right trusting your path your journey your faith your that this is what's meant for you and then you know the universe will take care of the rest and and making mistakes and going okay i did that was yeah did that sorry i i i sort of i'm like there's no yeah i think i think i've you know seen how learning more like the mistake i think like i think very early on in life actually weirdly i didn't enjoy making mistakes does anybody i don't know maybe some people really do but i i didn't wasn't comfortable with with it'd be hard to find someone who enjoyed making mistakes yeah and yet anyone any sage you're worthy will tell you it's not it's only through mistakes that you grow right so it's like going okay you know like that's where the where the that's where the rich stuff is that's where you're gonna so i just try to keep growing um and you know accepting and you know yeah how does it feel to introduce your buddhist practices and teachings to the kids like how does that work i'm fascinated by well yeah yeah i really i just i say to daisy and she'll say she'll sometimes on the other side of the world on a movie she'll be like i say um i think and flynn chanted you know from i did the same with him and i don't like so flynn's mother has a beautiful faith in life i think and i really respect it and i don't challenge any of the things his views that he's obviously imbued through his mother and um you know i i i we we love to go on walks i love to go on walks with my son and and we talk a lot i try to you know and at different stages look he's 13 now so it's almost like dad is getting pushed aside and i kind of know what that feels like i was the same you know so i'm not i try not to take it personally yeah i miss him and i'm like i just text him i love him and i miss him but but we have these wonderful walks and talks and i kind of just throughout whatever we're saying i try to keep reinforcing just the the the undercurrent philosophy and thinking of my practice and and and which is just you know are you are you respecting are you are you you know if there is that kid in class who's not you know are you are you supporting that kid that's not getting the support because that's where you'll find the richness right because i I kind of like, I know that's in his heart as well.

55:46I see it. And funny, he said to me, dad, you know, I'm really good at just bluffing. And I think like, but this is him at 13, you know, flexing a bit in this way of trying to like, trying to kick. And he's like, yeah, but dad, I just knew that would, that would be the thing that people would appreciate. I'm like, good. Well, just keep working that then. Yeah. Because even if you're thinking, we'll try and make you say you're going to do, just keep working that. Even if it's, even if you think it's like you're putting on a show, fake it till you make it. You know what I mean? Just keep trying to do the right thing.

56:16And eventually you'll start to realize what the right thing is, right? But I love to walk and talk with him. And I just don't overwhelm him with it. Because in my faith, I believe by saying nam, myoho, rengue, kyo. Say it to me, nam, myoho, rengue, kyo. Nam, myoho, rengue, kyo. Nam, myoho, rengue, kyo. so by saying this once you never have to say it again you protected seven generations in your past seven generations in your future thank you for that gift that's beautiful so i believe that deeply believe that and i believe sometimes i will just set walk up to somebody and say just say just once yeah and i'll tell them that and then i'll walk away whatever and it'd be like i believe that it's like finding a a needle in the eye of a haste there and if you so you never have to do it again you've done it seven generations i'll see every time i see you now and if you ever good yeah and if you ever and if it was something that resonated with you at the time or at the moment then great i you know i encourage people to do that it's not you know i'm like well this is how you do it just it's not a it's not a meditational process right like a meditation i do as well i have a meditation tm practice but for me it's like yoga for the mind you know it's like when i'm really stressed out i feel like you know that too much coffee do you ever get really stressed You seem so late.

57:39Yeah. I'm, no. I'm sitting here opposite Jay Shetty. Do you want me to show you the other side of me? No, bro. I mean, like, you can see, you'll see the climbing episode. You'll see the party. Yeah, yeah, I haven't got there. You'll see the party mouth and the, I'm like, no, I'm like, I redline. I'm like, I really, like, mostly I'm like, I can really, you know, I can be in the red, like, and that's something that I just try to navigate. But I like that. I embrace it. I accept it. Absolutely. Do you know what I mean? And it's like, I can be on in that space. It's like, it's like the difference between driving at 30 or 60.

58:11It's like, obviously I would, you know, God forbid, you want to observe the speed limit because there are children and things, but like, I know what, you know, so sometimes I can be really intense. How have you, emotionally, how have you accepted the parts of yourself that most of us judge, criticize or feel uncomfortable? Granted that they're not affecting other people. Aside from chanting Nami or Inge Kyo. I think because of that practice, I'm constantly looking at that. But I think it's time, honestly. And I think it's experience because the experiences have taught me like that, you know, shame is not my friend.

58:59Guilt, shame. if you spend any if you if you overly if you spend too much time in that negative thought pattern you know we're light energy we're like little planets right but if you broke our bodies down i was having this conversation with somebody who's giving me a massage the other night she's amazing woman and she was like but we're like little we're like little galaxy if you actually dissolved us the the trillions and billions of you know you know cells and everything it's like a little it's like a little galaxy so we're all little galaxies going around the planet right in a way so all of that energy which as you know and talked about many times but it's like it's whatever you're saying you become right as we all know these all these old adages are so true so it's not like but so yeah it's i think for me it's like i the shame game doesn't work i don't want to i don't want to receive it from anyone i mean i did this i had this amazing experience and i went six years ago maybe seven years ago now seven years ago more than seven years ago nearly eight years ago I went to the Hoffman Institute which is wonderful yes yeah and it was um I'd had a really I'd been seeing Katie for a year and I'd broken up and then we'd sort of no we hadn't actually we'd broken up yet I'd been seeing her for for a little while and then we had broken up and we got back together you know the young love weirdness of trying to find things and but I'd I'd been triggered into this really unique pattern of behavior that I felt I'd inherited from my mom right this thing of like see me i'm here you know with my mom i'm over here you know i think like you know what i mean and trying to get the attention right and i was like oh one of the worst years internally i can ever remember because i felt like i was playing a part instead of being a part and i was just because i had so many feelings and i was so and i was in water that it was uncharted so um a dear friend of mine buddhist had um an actor friend from new york had suggested that i do this two years ago and i hadn't picked up on it james lestine this amazing actor human just wonderful person and i was like i sort of remembered when i we'd had this breakup and i'd remembered i'd taken my passport left everything else and walked into new york because we'd been in New York and then I was like got on a plane home but before I got on a plane home I went to his house because it was like five in the morning when we had this rip-roaring article and I was like took my passport and walked out of the door and I was like and he talked about it and so I I did this course and I left with these three thinking and it was it was a wonderful week where you don't have your phone you don't have the email you have so you have no connection to the outside world really and you don't and people you know obviously I was me but I had this nobody's there for that so it's really people are on their own they're all in their own form of net need so i was wearing like a name tag that was my childhood name or whatever and then i did seven days of like i guess kind of like a group therapy and it felt like three years of therapy in seven days in a way and they take you on this beautiful journey through these seven days where you have like a thanksgiving dinner a christmas dinner a birthday and a whole thing from it's like it's beautiful the way it's constructed and i came out with this thinking and i talked to james at that time about this as well of feeling safe seen and celebrated i want to feel safe so in in terms of my relationship so with self first right so if i look in the mirror i feel safe do i feel safe with you today do i feel seen by you am i kind of observing myself and do i feel celebrated right but really it's for my the people in my life like do i feel safe with this person do i feel seen by this person and am i feeling celebrated and can i do that for them obviously right it's a it's a it's a mirror so if i'm feeling that way then you're good it's a green light and if i'm not then i'm going to just step back take pause until i can feel that way and if i can't feel that way then maybe life and the universe will take us on different trajectories but whilst i feel that way so aene it was interesting it was interesting and i was like okay this is what's meant you know this is some years ago now yeah but this this stickiness that we had this connection and she was never really not a part of my thoughts um and she would reach out in weird ways like instagram or whatever and i'd be like processing and i was like so and then i made a sort of decision because i had this safe scene celebrated thing not to to see her unless she would and then she's she actually did this this hoffman as well and had an amazing experience herself wow and so we just kind of i think it was like it created a foundation so we're constantly sort of bouncing off this thing and sometimes the foundation's really rocky of course um and sometimes i don't know yeah is this are we is the universe are we still going i get i gave her this picture of a tree you know and i was like and it was it was this beautiful i bought it in india i think but it was this this these two trees growing as one i was like this is this is what it should be right so long as we can the branches can go all over the place but the roots and the and the and the base of the tree is the trunk is growing together you know it's the it's the pillars of the temple right yes you need them to stand strong together so that you can hold the scent that you know hold that but i yeah it's it's it's been a yeah parking shouldn't slow you down park whiz gives every driver a shortcut book ahead save up to 50 and skip the hassle of circling the block park smarter park faster park whiz download the park whiz app today and save every time you park This is Mario Lopez with one with Mario Lopez daily podcast.

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1:06:38Discover more at brightviewseniorliving.com. equal housing opportunity that's great criteria that i like that safe seen and celebrated yeah it's like a beautiful way of checking and connecting wavelength yes the visual you just painted right now of the two trees feels perfect like that visual just resonated so strongly sometimes people are not up for that as well though no sometimes they're not ready for that she like i it can be really overwhelming it can be really overwhelming all of your good intention right all of your desire for the greatest outcome can be super intimidating and overwhelming depending on whether your wife is ready yes in that day in that moment and as we as we know from you know the remarkable you know i think i had this i thought i was like when i had daisy my daughter i was like i mean i feel like every man should have a daughter before they get married in a way because it's like you see every emotion under the sun yeah in a split second and it's It's like, and you have nothing but love because you're there.

1:07:42There's no judgment. There's just like, I'm just like marvelling at her explosion of emotion. And she'd be like, no, daddy, no, daddy, mommy, I want that. And I'd be like, if I'd been in, you know, a partner, a reflection of a partner doing that could have really messed me up at different times in my life. Wait, what? See me, look at me, look at me, look at me, look at me. I'm over here, mommy, I'm over here. You know, whatever it may be. You know, our patterns from childhood, whatever that may be. and i like and i'm like oh and it's it's in a way it's like you know so i can have those you know with a powerful human you know that that that i've chosen in some ways every day yeah it's like gotta keep leveling up and trying and making mistakes and going okay no that didn't work or i'm to do this and that's no no don't do that you might you know but you know sometimes it's very interesting isn't it i think the masculine in in in in relation to the feminine you know like my mind map again you know like i'd set an intention around it and it was like oh no it's not women it's like the feminine within you it's like but in this world that we live in it's like trying to find the right level because it's not like obvious, you know.

1:09:08It's not, there's no, it's, you know, I think people are always, you know, how do you have the right balance? It's like, it's like sometimes you're just really, you know, overly, overly, you know, edgy. And sometimes you just like, you can be that. you can hold that big space because you because in your mind you're capable but you know i think it's just choosing right you just keep choosing you choose life and you choose to you choose to go on a journey and you choose to keep it real and you choose to for me at least yeah i feel what you said about like for me i my sister's like four and a half years younger than me or something and i feel like i i remember holding her when she was born i last year i got to walk her down the aisle at her wedding like and it was i've always my nickname for my sister is kid because i've treated her like my daughter since she was born and she's always felt that way to me and you're so right like my wife will always say to me gosh when you're around your sister you just you know completely different in this and and it's it's that fatherly brotherly does she like that but my sister no your your wife does she she finds it adorable oh yeah she finds it adorable She's like, lean into that more.

1:10:21Is that not really? Not so much? It's just like, no. It's just like. No, she finds that adorable, but she sees what capacity I have for tolerance and for what you're saying, that being that bigger holding space. When you have your own daughter. Yeah, when you have it for that love. And you're so right that when you've been able to experience that, it's so much easier to understand. I always feel like I was raised by my mom and tried to raise my sister the best as I could. And it was almost like, that's made me a better husband than I would have been. Right. because I had a different experience with women that I wouldn't have had if I didn't have a younger sister and had a younger brother or whatever it may be.

1:10:56Right, right, right. And so that resonates very strongly. But also this idea of I've seen myself act with my wife, with the people I love in a way that I don't like at all. And I've seen myself act in the best way possible. And I'll oscillate between the two depending on where I'm at on any given day. and it's what you said earlier that it takes two people to be able to let go takes two people to be able to forgive it takes two people to be able to not over amplify or underreact or overreact and you're constantly playing in that space if you want a loyal committed long-term relationship which has very different positives than a short easy quick moment and quick fix yeah yeah and and it's almost like it's what you said it's choosing what you want once you decide your we have that idea in my practice once it's like and sensei discusses you know once you decide your whole world will move in that direction once you decide you know what i mean everything is set up for the universe to support that decision but you must decide whatever it may be and then if the wheels fall off along the way you know you realize that you've decided and there are mistakes but then you set about fixing and i you know i i wrote this um like a mission statement when i when i first met her because i wanted to uh i wanted to try to articulate all these crazy feelings i was having at the time um which was like a reveal that i hadn't had in a long time and somehow and one of the things that i said in this like this this this this this letter i wrote her was you know i want us to we're going to bring our little kids out you know our inner child we're going to bring out and i'll duke it out with you as much as you like so long as you just promise to keep getting up you know because it's like if we don't get up i need to know that like you'll duke it out i'll duke it out but that we'll get up you know and keep you know because that's because it doesn't matter about you've got you're going to go down people are going to make mistakes things are going to happen life is is set for that you know there it's not you know it's not meant to be the opportunities as we said at the beginning for growth don't come through an easy path they come they're not when everything's going great it's when the shit's hit the fan right and that's when you know so i kind of feel like i'm constantly like when's the next one yeah yeah next next lesson when's the next one coming up but you know how much how much you know how much humility do I need to learn today?

1:13:37You know, what do I need to do? And what choices have I made that have led to this? And, and how am I going to own that? You know what I mean? What's the difference between that? Because I resonate with that. I always say to people that when things are going bad, work hard. And when things are going good, work harder, right? You're always pushing yourself to learn, grow, evolve more when actually things are good. Because a lot of us, we do the opposite. When things are good, we get complacent, we get lost. What is the difference for you between that mindset getting exhausting versus energizing?

1:14:11Because I think a lot of people would say, gosh, if I'm always having to figure out what to learn and what message and from the universe and my partner, that's exhausting. But it seems like you're energized by that, which is what you see in the show. Like you're energized by the idea that there's more to learn. what's what's the difference what have you found um how are you able to sustain that level of wanting to evolve and grow i think i think that i just came in that way bro that's that's just how you're built i think i came in that way i think we all come in different right when i reflect on all of the opportunities for growth in my life, they all reinforce this idea that this is what I need to learn at this time, right?

1:15:02In retrospect, when you're younger and in that moment of crisis, whatever that may be, and listen, I didn't have a mobile phone until I was 20, right? but there is a window of time in my life which is almost like a void because of the immense pressure and experience that life was throwing at me at such a rapid pace that i i literally can like there are blacks almost feel like blanks right like i can't even like my friend breast friends would go remember when we went to japan on that press and i was like we we went to japan together i'm like yeah i'm like okay so you know um but yeah i think that's it i think that makes sense i think something at a young age with chant with a practice like mine helped me as well to recognize because we're constantly reinforcing this idea of opportunities through obstacles or opportunities and even when you're in it and it's nightmares oh these exams this thing this you know or this boyfriend or this girlfriend or this situation this like i think it's always simplify as well right steady yeah like life you know is you know at least my experience is like i i i love the high octane right and i've been at the at that depth i love the depth as well but when i'm steady when i'm just when i just like come back to the simple right simplify because sometimes you just need a walk you know what i mean you just need to go outdoors sometimes you just need to look at the sky take a deep breath sometimes it's just and it's a few little touchstones that you can create for yourself, you know, so that you have tools, right?

1:16:45Yeah. Create your own toolbox. And I think that's what I got from just so many different things, whether it's Hoffman or a plant journey. Yeah, so many. Or an encounter with somebody important or my relationship to Dysacavacator, my mentor. And I think it's also we're wired. We're all wired differently. So like, you know, if you, but if you keep leaning into that area of, um, and not being afraid to lean into the discomfort of life, then that's what the show is giving you. You know, you're leaning into the discomfort, you get the benefit, right? And, you know, again, that might just be getting up from your couch, turning off the TV or not scrolling on your phone or putting, you know, just deleting that app for like 24 hours so that you're just not being ruled by something outside of yourself.

1:17:34I think in this new age, right, we've been in the age of the internet. I think in this new age of AI, which we're all, there's so much anxiety and sort of, you know, nervousness around. And I saw, you know, Sam Altman speak about some of this stuff. And I thought it was so interesting. But I think my takeaway from what he had said and what I think is true for my life and what I can sense is discipline. self-discipline because it's a choice to pick up your phone it's a choice to get lost in your phone it's a choice to keep scrolling or you can choose to put it down and step outside and simplify do that meditation do that yoga class you could it's all choices right but i think the the people that i think that if as and when you know we see this new chapter of life it's going to be totally different my son your your children when you come into the world they're not going to know a world without super intelligence they're just not going to know that like my son doesn't know a world without the internet how's that impacted his life i do yeah so do i yeah but they're not going to have a no they're not going to know a world without super intelligence and it's going to bring remarkable benefit to our lives no doubt i'm sure health healing you know access life but it's like those old adages like devil's hands you know idle idle hands of the devil's playground so i keep thinking like what's going to be my what's the discipline i'm going to create the routines and disciplines to create and keep working at so that i don't slip off into that because i do it i can find myself just going and i and i kind of love my algorithm by the way like like it'll send me all of your things and other people's you know and like messaging around it's definitely listening to me messaging around oh this relationship person is talking about fantastic things you know and i'm like oh that would be great for the world to see or whatever you know or whatever it may be so like don't there's not it's not all bad but it is i think the discipline the self-mastery of discipline right self-discipline and self-mastery to know one skill needed the one is the one that will protect because if you're like what do they call them in games where it's like non-player yeah mpc is it right yeah we can all become those we can all just switch off and turn on our autopilot and just be like because you don't want to because it's overwhelming yeah it's overwhelming you're overwhelmed by the consistent i mean you know if you keep looking at the news you're just going to be overwhelmed it's wild yeah it's wild yeah i have so many friends who are like on both sides of, you know, conflicts, you know, and just, it's just, you just go, you can just be overwhelmed.

1:20:28Yeah. And that is where we're at, I think. I think so, yeah. We're overwhelmed, we're over-consuming, we're. We're overexposed. Overexposed. We see and hear and understand. We get access to so much more information than we need. And then we continue to get more. And then what's true, what's not true. Yeah. It's a lot. and that's why it's a lot and that's why if anyone's not feeling disciplined or is struggling there's a lot of compassion and empathy because it's so hard i i you show me a human i'll show you anyone right yeah you know even and that's true of relationships right i think one of the things like led and gabby hamilton were a big part of my life at a period in my life a few years ago that were that that where i was separated from my my partner um flynn's mom and um i was living kind of on my own in malibu and and they were such a really beautiful couple the way they i learned learned so much from seeing how they interacted um and i and i always appreciate that i took that away with me but i think it's like i kind of respect couples more than anything else almost now today somehow as well when we talk about relationship because it's the people that have kind of gone the continuing to choose and not to upgrade or think they're upgrading or that the grass is greener you know because we can all do that of course and maybe we will and there's no judgment there either too by the way no judgment on any of it but personally i kind of go oh wow you know i i admire that because it doesn't it's not easy man you know because as people as we age and change it's like we're all being told that like you can get this new handbag that will go with this new car or you can get this new watch and this new thing and you're just going to keep and i love a shiny object so do i i love a shiny object you know how have you managed to maintain your Buddhist practice and philosophy in Hollywood?

1:22:18Because I imagine that - Dude, that Buddhist philosophy and products has maintained, has been my anchor. It's not, I haven't maintained it. It's been my, it's maintained me. It's held me. I really feel like it's my super cape. You can tell that. It's my cape. It's obvious. It's my superpower, you know, and it's available to anyone, but I got it at a young age and I'm like, it's my wings. It's my shield. it's my it's my wisdom it's my courage it's my compassion if i just use it and sometimes i won't there are days i won't chant and i'm like i mean look i'm years and years into this so it's just i feel that it's never gone far from me but but i know when i'm not i'm like wait what's going on often it's been when i've been in a relationship by the way often i've been in a relationship and i don't and i was like wait what why why is that why am i not when i'm because what's being so yeah but it's been it was that was it was my yeah it was literally my i can feel it it's it's very obvious it's very evident from the show and today it's very real in in your in your veins what's something you feel you're being called right now what's the fear you're being called to overcome right now or the lesson that you're being questioned i i sat with this question last year and it was really really interesting for me in my own meditation it was revealed to me that if i really want to serve and have the impact that i want to have that i'll have to be okay with dealing with more stress pain external kind of um energy coming at you energy coming out of calm so that you can paint a bigger canvas.

1:24:09But it will require that. And that was a very interesting almost request or question that I was hearing from the universe or from God or from my own spiritual practice of this is what's required of you. Are you ready for you? Are you okay? What have you heard or felt that you are being, what fear are you being asked to overcome or what lesson are you being asked to learn right now? If anything comes to mind. Because you've conquered so many fears in the show and gone to the edge, what's an edge that is being requested of you? I think that our deepest fears are often, they often lie in areas unknown to us, subconscious, even in our subconscious.

1:24:56Some of the deepest fears I have are like related to a historical pattern of behavior or thinking, which I don't know that I was even conscious of, you know, like I've inherited and possibly from in my mind, because of my practice and faith generationally lifetimes, previous lifetimes of thinking. Because that's how I kind of live my life. Like for the next life, I'm like, that's how I'm looking at it now. like i'm living for the next one you know it's like like the egyptians with the temples it's like they were doing that because it was like and i kind of like if i can live like that but i think that when i allow myself it feels connected to i think self-worth which i think is something that like we all kind of like you know like is jay ready for that bigger canvas is he ready to put that message out into the world does he deserve that has he done enough for that am i worthy of that right have i have i done the work am i doing am i in the flow enough am i and also like because it's not it's cyclical right it's sometimes you're just not in the flow i had seven years of just being what felt like some of that like swimming up river just and i because i was just i'm gonna swim up this river now for some reason you know and that was partly that time when i was separated and living in mountain like training with lead and stuff and i really kind of put my body and my mind through a lot of different before i did the shot even before i did to the edge so i think i think it really for me it's like that we're enough right i think somebody said it on your wall there that you're enough but it's like i think we all struggle sometimes to really deeply believe that we are enough that we're valued that we're valuable you know we're imprinted by our parents from the age of zero to seven right but that's not even taking into account the the time that you know you're in your mother's so there's a whole heap of information that is just like, is it yours or is it somebody else's?

1:27:29I'm constantly trying to go like, how do I detach from my, from this idea of what, is that my, is that my baggage? It doesn't look like my baggage. I mean, I know, okay, that's mine. All right, I'll take that. Let's unpack that. But all that other stuff, you know, and I've I've I think Hoffman taught me a lot in that space but I think I've interestingly like it's a fear of like being alone are you good to be alone I think that was the biggest for me in a long time am I good to just be on my own and I and I'm I'm constantly working on that yeah Am I good enough on my own? Because am I good in my own company?

1:28:21Do I feel good with me just to be with just me today or for this next hour? Because I spent a lot of time in my youth with people who I, you know, really love and admire and adore and continue to, but in a way, it wasn't serving me. I was like, it was, you know, we talk about energy and drains and things. You know, there were, there were, there were relationships in my life that I didn't even really realize that the impact that they were having. And then when I did, I was like, oh, wait a second, this needs reframing. And until I'm ready to reframe, I'm going to just take pause to feel safe, seen and celebrated.

1:28:59But I think that, I think my, so in amongst all of that, I think it was probably being alone and being good with being alone and recognizing. because we're going to be born and we're going to die alone right so it's like how how good are you with being alone right that's beautiful i think and that you're enough right you don't need all the other things because i love a shiny object i you know whatever like although this isn't shiny but it's the one from new zealand i don't yeah but you know i do i'm like i've got a fast car couple do i need them i like the way it feels but you know do we need to keep consuming all this stuff when the planet is got a ticking clock it's interesting it's really interesting i find that we're all paradoxes and we're almost giving ourselves permission to be a paradox until all of it's purified and it's almost the permission is what allows you the ability to purify whereas is if you're living in the conflict of I'm only one thing, you don't get the opportunity to dissolve the part that you may not be comfortable with because you haven't accepted it.

1:30:17But no, that answer was beautiful. Being alone and being comfortable in your own skin and being enough. And that is the lifelong journey. I feel like that's, you know, that is it. And, well, I know, I feel like I could talk to you for hours. We have. And I hope we do. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we will, we should. I want to end with what we end every episode on, which is called the final five of On Purpose. These are pretty much the same five questions that everyone gets answered and every question has to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum. Okay. Gosh, I hate that kind of pressure. These are your final five.

1:30:52And you can take your time. They're thoughtful questions. Orlando, these are your final five. The first question is what is the best advice you've ever heard or received?

1:31:04My mother used to say, have respect from the doorman to the director. And I think respect all life, anyone you meet, because we're all on that journey. And the person that's opening the door for you could be running the country. You just don't know. That's a great answer. question number two what's the worst advice you've ever heard or received the worst

1:31:44um i mean the worst advice that's a really tricky one you can skip it if your mind's blocked it out that's pretty cool i yeah it's hard for me to yeah that's good hard for me to the worst advice

1:32:04yeah yeah sorry dude no that's good don't be sorry that's totally great i mean if you blocked all out that's awesome because i i like to make a log of bad advice everyone's received because i feel like there's so much bad advice that goes around i mean i like yeah i'm not no you blocked out that's cool yeah i'm like if it doesn't if it's not a half for me yeah yeah leave it leave that's what i'm saying i don't skip the question don't need to apologize uh question number three what's the first thought you have in the morning and the last one you have at night so we wake up in a family bed and katie usually says thank you god for today i'm grateful in every way especially for and daisy will go but we'll all go daddy mommy flinny you know we'll all do that yeah um that's beautiful and that's and i'll then say yeah i think gratitude yeah and at night yeah it's the same it's beautiful it's the same because it's like we woke up you know and i think yeah question number four um what's something that you used to value that you don't value anymore uh who um dude that's so annoying

1:33:27other people's opinions of me great answer uh fifth and final question we ask this to every guest who's ever been on the show if you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow what would it be i think it comes back to my first answer that my mother kind of instilled than me which is just respect yeah you know a law of respecting life all life by saki wikeda wrote this amazing um letter he came to the uk i think it was in the 80s to visit the young the youth members and he was there but he chose not to stand before them to have a communication i think because he could feel like the anticipation and the complete so he wrote this letter or he may have been busy but he but he was there but he didn't but it was a choice is from my answer and within it he said there's a piece about i'm gonna not maybe land this but you'll get the my point this this lifetime is about you know um from the material from the external to the internal and making all mothers happy because i i'd love to actually find the quote yeah do it do it yeah okay so here we go i'm a member of a buddhist organization since i'm 16 and my mentor is a Japanese man in Japan, a man named Daisaku Akeda.

1:35:08And in 1994, he wrote a message of encouragement to the youth of the UK. He wouldn't see them, but he sent this message. This is an excerpt from the message that he sent to these children for them to listen to. He reserved himself from being there. But I wanted to read it because I feel it's so important. And I had it written for you as well to read along, but it says, the times are changing from an age where justice, from an age where power is justice, to an age in which justice is power. In this new age, the supreme guiding principle will be the benefit of all humanity, rather than the interests of one particular nation or ethnic group.

1:35:52We will see the transformation of history from the revolution of the external environment to that of the inner self, the inner human revolution. It will be an age in which the actions of leaders will naturally be based on the guidelines of making all mothers happy.

1:36:14The actions of leaders will be naturally based on the guidelines of making all mothers happy. Respect, right? because we can't us mortal men really fathom you know the power of what it means to be a mother in the world but like if we can have a little bit of because you know so interesting isn't it so interesting to see the times how they've been changing and how this masculine that's been living in with us and we've been living with and under and around and for and is sort of transformed and how we're learning particularly as men to respect and understand the power of the mother mother earth mother mother the mothers and it's like and he goes on to say about respecting your father and mother and i really think he means all fathers all mothers you know i was talking about this with david who introduced me to my practice just earlier and we were saying he was saying it's i've really come to understand that it's all mothers respect all mothers respect all fathers particularly because they hopefully have some sense you know of the value of life and there is some people that don't of course there are some people that that's not but yeah so i think that's that's that that was beautiful idea I've never heard it been put that way.

1:37:44It's a wonderful, you know, and that idea as well, which actually, interestingly, I wrote a note of what Sam said about Altman, and he was like, the journey is now, because I think it's way more, it's not the external, it's the internal. If we are those little galaxies, right, if we really start to understand each of us and have, like, respect and take responsibility right imagine if you know i think what i what i kind of understood about my practice was if i'm good enough and capable enough to just take care of my side of the street right then if i get so good at it i can start to take care of other people's side of the street because there are some people that just don't have the skill set they may know about the education they may know about the upbringing whatever it may be the circumstances they were born into a life that just didn't provide anything like the tools necessary to be able to cope with what life is like those obstacles i was talking about that some for some people it's just it's just there the whole time right it's like if we're all becoming capable humans and able of taking care then we can start taking care of your neighbor right you know what i mean start taking care of the person next to you because they can't right because that's what it's going to take right in my mind for this next chapter with where you know jobs are not what they used to be and people need you know that boundary right they need that um that frame of reference they need that kind of the security through through uh through boundaries right um so yeah the discipline but the respect and the uh all mothers happy let's make all mothers happy it's funny sometimes i don't do that though by the way i try we try you've said it here now uh everyone who's been listening and watching thank you so much orlando thank you for being what i was saying to you a second ago thank you for being so vulnerable thanks for being so open thanks for being in a space of discovery to you know this conversation was us discovering what was in your heart what was in your mind it was us kind of unraveling and opening and those to me are my favorite conversations when you don't know where you're going but you know you're going there together and I think that's so true for so much of what we discussed and everyone's been listening and watching back at home or at work wherever you are in the world make sure you tune in to The Edge which is premiering on April 18th if you haven't already and also please please please let me and orlando know on instagram tiktok you guys cut up the best clips and everything let me know what resonated what connected tag us both so we can see what you're practicing what you're staying with you uh and what you're putting in and implementing and applying in your life but a big thank you to orlando for showing up thanks so deeply and wonderfully and i'm excited for more of these conversations me too me too absolutely Love it.

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