PARIS HILTON: The REAL Story Beyond the Headlines, Fame, Misconceptions, and The Journey to FINALLY Reclaim Her Narrative

28:26What was that 12-month period after the tape release like for you? What did life look like? You said you put off the press tour for a simple life. I, just for several months, did not leave my house. I just didn't want to see anyone. I didn't want to talk to anyone. I canceled everything. I didn't want to speak about it. I just wanted to ignore it and just pretend like it never happened. So I would just not even have to think about it. people just kept saying, Paris, we need you here. Your show just came out. And then SNL called, and they asked me to come on. And Jimmy Fallon had this really funny script that they wanted me to do.

29:07And I was really nervous to do it. But I love Jimmy. He's always been so kind and so lovely and just a really amazing person. so I went and did it and I feel like that made me feel a little bit better like I was almost taking my power back in a way and and I don't know it just like was like a turning point for me where after that then I felt more comfortable and then you know it was always difficult and hard but I knew that I needed to be strong and I knew that I needed to just go on with my life. But it's something that will always be in the back of my mind. Yeah. That moment in the documentary, that clip of you on SNL, it feels like that was the moment where you leaned into the narrative, owning it, claiming it in your own way, redefining it.

30:02And that sounds like such a, that's so counterintuitive, but for you, it was marketing genius, but also healing. It's such a hard moment because it's like, there's so much pain internally, but then you have work and a life and you're trying to get it back. And so talk to me about what reclaiming your narrative meant to you in that moment and what you went on to do that felt empowering internally and externally, because I think we see externally how it made sense as a brand, but you're a human. And as I'm sitting in front of you now and I'm hearing you speak, I'm like, oh no, this is not over for Paris.

30:40It never was, even though the ads and everything took off and everything changed. What was that internal journey after that that was happening while the external brand was being reclaimed? I think in my mind, I just felt like, I don't know, the whole world had this kind of what they thought of this persona. And I was already creating a character in a way because of all the other trauma I'd been through as a teenager. Yeah, which we discussed last time. Yeah, so that was almost like my armor, like this caricature where it was like, this will keep me strong. And they're not actually laughing at me.

31:21They're laughing at this character that I purposely am doing. So I don't know, it was kind of just like leaning into it. Like, oh, you think this is about me? All right, well, I'm going to take it to the next level and I'm going to build an entire brand around an empire. and I don't know, I just felt like always that character, you know, kind of like that dumb blonde persona just kind of just was like shielding me from everything else. And also because I had so much, you know, internalized pain and trauma I'd been through that I was not ready to discuss back then because I just didn't even have the time to reflect on it because I was young.

31:58I was like a million things were happening, and, you know, people were not even talking about mental health or any of that, you know, I think up until like five years ago, it feels like. Literally. Like literally. Yeah. So there was no room to even do that because nobody, if you even said the word mental health back then, people wouldn't even know what they would be like, what? Like a mental hospital? Like they wouldn't even understand what that meant. So it was just like timing was not even right to be able to be serious or talk about it or reflect in that way. And I was so young that I wouldn't even have known how to put anything into words.

32:35So I kind of just, I don't know. I think everything else in my career has just always happened so authentically. I just kind of like lean into things and just have fun with it. And with the ADHD, I have like this kind of almost like silly fun side. And then with the Simple Life show as well, it just like kind of all turned into this thing. And then I just was like, okay, and started getting offered all these deals and my new perfume and just, you know, getting paid a million dollars to show up at a party. I was like, okay, like, let's do this. So I kind of was just like going with the flow and with life.

33:13And also it was more, I think, easier for me just to like laugh through the pain than actually feel the pain as well. Yeah, it can't have been easy that people were saying you put the tape out on purpose either. That was the thing that was the most painful for me as well, for people to believe that. Because, you know, something that's the most personal thing that you would never want anyone to see. And then people thinking you did it on purpose, that was something that really upset me. And then seeing other people come out after and purposely do it, which then people are like, oh, well, everyone purposely does.

33:51And I was like, no, like, that is not how I wanted the world to know me. Like, people don't know I'm actually like a very, like extremely, like painfully shy person. And I've always been very like shy. So, yeah, that was something that always upset me. And then seeing other people do it purposely, that was another thing where I was like, this is, I don't know. I just think it's sad if people would purposely do something like that. Thank you so much for being so open and vulnerable about it because yeah, it's just when you talk about it in the documentary too, and it's so interesting how your recovery from this moment is, it's brave.

34:38But what you just said now is actually it's me laughing through something that I wasn't ready to confront. And it's interesting because when you look at it, it's a brilliant case study in marketing from a business standpoint of someone leaning into a narrative. But then there's a human healing component that we just forget about, that we forget that someone's still having to go through this, someone's still having to heal through this. What was the most important part of your healing journey? Like when did you confront it and what helped, like what really worked to recover from something this traumatic?

35:13And I appreciate that you said you haven't fully, you maybe never fully healed, which is completely fair, but what has helped you even be confident to sit here right now and speak about it with so much composure, which I can't believe is easy. It's definitely been a journey. You know, the beginning, I didn't want to even speak about it at all because it was just too difficult to talk about. And just the most humiliating thing to go through. But now seeing so many other people who've went through it as well, it gives me the strength to be able to talk about it for them as well. And now being a mother with a daughter, it makes me feel extremely protective of her and of other women and girls, but I don't want anyone to ever feel that pain.

36:10So I feel like by me talking about it, maybe it will help others not make that same mistake to not trust someone in that way. Because unfortunately, you know, it's very rare to find someone you can trust. Like, I'm so lucky now I have such an amazing husband who I trust with my life and who would never hurt me and loves me to the moon and back and is obsessed with me. But, you know, I don't even think I would have been, like, ready for this type of love at this point in my life if I had not healed the way I have. Yeah, I've been through a lot in my life, and I'm proud of how strong I am and resilient.

36:54And, you know, no matter what happens to me in life, it just makes me stronger every single time and it's um yeah i'm really really proud of who i am today it's been a lot you definitely should be i mean after reading your memoir and speaking to you last time about everything that happened in your teenage years and now talking about this i'm like you should definitely be so proud and i'm and i'm so happy as well that you've been able to find a partner that respects you and has an amazing you know as i said earlier i love carter i think He's awesome. He's just such great energy. And he definitely adores you in the most beautiful, special way.

37:30And for you both to have that now and to have a beautiful family together, I think it also is inspiring to other people to go, wow, you can go through that. And by the healing, still be with someone who does that. Do you feel Carter was the first person to truly see and understand you, like to see you truly? It was the first time that I've shown myself truly. Wow. We started dating in 2019. That was right before the documentary came out. So I had just finished filming it. And I wasn't even looking for a relationship or anything. I was like, after what I've been through in life, I'm just going to be single forever.

38:08I don't need anyone. I can have children on my own. I can support myself. and I just had such a wall around my heart that I didn't think I'd ever let anyone in. And when I met him that day on Thanksgiving in the Hamptons, I just saw something in his smile, just the way I could see in his eyes. He was a kind person, and I'm so happy that I gave him the chance and let down the walls a little bit for my heart. and it's just been life-changing to have such an amazing, close relationship with someone. And I think before, I was not ready for that because of what I'd been through in my life, especially with men, that it made me not trust anyone.

39:00But I feel like everything happens for a reason and timing is everything. And I'm so grateful that I did the documentary because it really made it possible for me to now I'll have this amazing family and my beautiful babies and just this incredible life that I just feel so grateful for every single day. We get to see the babies in the documentary. It's so beautiful seeing you with them. And as a mother, what's been your favorite part about becoming a mother? Just everything. I did not know a love like this could exist. And they just bring me so much happiness. and every morning just seeing their big smiles and just how excited they are and just seeing all these just like special moments and the holidays and the excitement and going to Disneyland.

39:54It feels like being a kid again with them and just, I'm just like so obsessed, so in love. They're like my two best friends and we do everything together and travel the world together And they're just so smart, so sweet, so kind, loving. They're so cute together. They're best friends. And he's obsessed with her. She looks up to him so much. And it's just so cute just to see their relationship. And they look exactly like me as well. So I just look at them like I'm looking at myself almost. And I just want to give them the most amazing, beautiful, fun life and make them incredible human beings. And just, I don't know, just like, I feel like all of my dreams have come true.

40:46Like everything I thought about as a little girl has come true. Wow. I really believe like I manifested Carter, the babies, my home, my pets, all of my things. So you'd say you're happy. Yeah. I'm so happy. I used to always make 11-11 wishes. And now every time it's 11-11, I look at Carter. I'm like, I don't even know what to wish for anymore. Like all my wishes have come true. And I just feel like the luckiest girl in the world. I love that. What's been with the kids? What's one lesson from the Paris playbook that you want the kids to learn from you? I want them to know that kindness is the most important thing.

41:27Like that's something that is so important to me. and just to feel comfortable to be able to tell me anything and always feel safe just to know that I'll always be there for them and I'll always support them and I'll always give them the best advice. And just, I just, I don't know, I want them to always just feel comfortable that they can tell me anything. Because I feel like if your kid is too scared to say something to you, then I don't know, then bad things might happen because they don't feel comfortable to say something to you. I totally agree with that. I think all the trouble I got into as a kid was because I didn't feel comfortable telling my parents stuff.

42:12Like I wouldn't, I would have avoided so much trouble I got into as a kid. I was a, I was a troublesome kid and, uh, I was a good person, but I was, I was always just getting involved in the wrong things. And it was all because I couldn't talk to them about anything. And if I tried, it would be shut down or I'd be told not to do that, whatever it was. And there was just no openness and dialogue. And I love my parents. They're amazing. They felt they were doing it from a good place from what they knew. We have a great relationship. But at the time now, I look back and I think, I wish I could have just told my mom about that.

42:41I wish I could have told my dad about that. And maybe I wouldn't have, because I was scared and I felt fearful. And that way you end up relying on yourself, but then you end up making mistakes because you're just a kid. And so I really liked that lesson because it, to me, that's a really standout lesson of just how do you truly make them feel comfortable to tell you everything and they don't feel judged and they don't feel unloved. You know, you've had the media treat you in so many different ways. I wanted to ask you, what was harder, being misunderstood or underestimated?

43:19I feel like so much my life and career I've been underestimated and something I love doing is proving people wrong so I guess I don't mind that as much now because I've really proven them wrong but yeah being misunderstood I think people just having you know a certain way to think about you which there's always been so much more to me than what people ever thought. And I'm showing that side of me now, which has been so freeing to be able to show that there's so much more than, you know, the girl that they thought they knew. And that there's so much heart and compassion and just showing who I truly am and how strong I truly am.

44:12I think that's been amazing to show people what I've been through. And now to be able to turn that pain into such a huge purpose and make a difference in so many others' lives through that has been so empowering. Yeah, someone shared a quote with me the other day that said something like, the person who can see beauty in everything is undefeated. and when I'm sitting with you, I think of you as that, someone who's been able to find a way of turning their pain into purpose in so many different areas of their life, like you can't beat someone who does that. That's the strongest person you'll ever meet, is someone who just can find the meaning, the purpose, the beauty, the lesson in everything.

45:01And then that person can rise from anything that they go through and everything that they go through. And for me, I wanted to ask you, what boundary have you put into your life that you think changed your life? Have you set boundaries that you think changed the trajectory of your life? I think for a lot of my life, I just cared so much about what other people thought of me. And I think an important message to other people as well, as it doesn't matter what others think what matters most is what you think of yourself. And that has been a powerful message for me to remind myself of. And now I just feel like I'm more myself than ever, and I want others to be able to feel that they can do that too.

45:50And the power of being vulnerable. Because before, I just always grew up thinking, like, oh, like being strong and being perfect. And like that is, you know, it matters, but being real and being authentic and being vulnerable and talking about even the things that hurt or things that are scary to talk about, like that really just opens the door for others to feel safe, to do the same thing. And I think that's been an important thing, an important message of my life. Yeah. Yeah, as I'm sitting here listening to you, I'm almost thinking that, you know, when we're young, you all feel you have to be one version of yourself because you want to be the cool person or the person who fits in or the person who sets trends.

46:34And you almost become this persona of who you think people like. And then as we get older, it's almost like we give ourselves permission every decade to be more of ourselves. Like I feel so much more of who I am 360 today than I ever did when I was 18 years old. And it would be ridiculous to expect your 18-year-old self to be your most complete self because you haven't even had all the experiences of life yet. And now I look back and I think, oh yeah, every decade is just about me becoming more of me and giving myself permission to even be the parts of myself that other people would have laughed at before or poked fun at or not been interested in.

47:12It's almost like, no, I like this part of me and I'm happy to live with it because it's not going anywhere. Like it's always going to be here.

47:35What's something you used to think was love, but now you realize it wasn't? I was just watching on TikTok the other day. There's this girl who's an ADHD kind of influencer, and she was just saying like how a lot of us like confuse love but it's actually the adhd with the hyper focus so i feel like so many times that i thought i was in love was just actually my adhd or it's like you want to focus on something yeah you're just like you want that like we love like dopamine dopamine rush or something yeah so it was kind of just like you think it's love but it's just actually you're i don't know but then you get bored right after so I think there was just so many times like I thought it was really love, but it was literally just because of the ADHD.

48:25Wow. It was a really funny video. I'll send you it. Yeah, send you it. We'll put it up right now for when people are watching. I was just like, oh, my God, I love this. I sent it to so many of my friends who have ADHD. I was like, this makes so much sense. Like so many times I thought I was in love and it was not at all. This was literally just the ADHD. All those poor guys, Paris, that thought you loved them. Sorry, guys. That's so funny. Wow. So because you get hyper-focused, but then you get bored quickly. Yeah. It's almost like you could get fixated on someone. You totally head over heels for them.

48:58And then tomorrow it's like... You forget they exist. Wow. Forget they exist. Yeah. Because another thing with ADHD is like, if it's out of sight, it's out of mind. Like you'll just... People, even objects, anything. Like if it's not there, you just... It's called object permanence. Like you just don't even realize they exist anymore. so sorry guys does that affect any other area of your life like do you have to be mindful of it now that you're married and a mom and does it affect life still today or not really not like with carter because i love him i just remember him but yeah with other parts of my life that's why i did this show actually with youtube and um i partner with google on this and it's called Inclusive by Design.

49:42And it's literally a show that teaches you how to make inclusive spaces in your home, in your office, or just in your life for people with ADHD. So that's something that I've been learning a lot about, which has been so interesting and so much fun. That is interesting. I mean, it's brilliant though, because I feel like you found all these tools and principles or concepts that you understand about how your brain works. and therefore you can actually create a space in a way that fulfills you and makes a difference in the morning rather than waking up feeling reactive to whatever you go through. What are some of the rhythms and routines you've had to put into place that help you thrive with your ADHD?

50:26I mean, we see in the documentary, I mean, you're performing in front of thousands of people, you're rehearsing, you're writing, you know, it's stressful. We see moments of you breaking down as well like what are the routines you've had to set up that have allowed you to thrive at this level for this long a lot of putting systems in place a lot of like having to organize explaining to people on my team what do you have to say to them what do you say to someone your team's wonderful by the way thank you they're amazing like everyone's got such great energy but like what do you have to say to them to explain what what they're going to be in for because they may not have had that experience before yeah just how just how just like certain systems need to be like i just need like things like that's hard to describe because there's so many things that i do in different areas like from like the music the business all of it the advocacy work um but it's really just like i don't even know how to describe it right now my brain is but i'm also lucky that a lot of the people on my team have ADHD as well.

51:29So they get it. They get it as well. And, um, you know, we're, we're very creative, but we do need like systems and we need people to understand that. And, um, yeah, I don't even know why I can't describe it right now. No, I get it. It's different. No, it's, it's like, no, it's, I I'm intrigued because I think, again, there'll be lots of listeners who might be helped by that because I think a lot of people are trying to figure it out and are trying to thrive with ADHD. We're seeing people being diagnosed. And I think, as you said, you've become, you're successful, you're reinventing yourself, you do a lot of different things and you're doing that with ADHD.

52:06And so the, yeah, my reason for asking was more just so that people could learn some of those tips and tricks, but the documentary shows a lot of what you're working through. So people can definitely watch that. Yes. Figure it out there. All right. I've got a few last questions I want to ask you. what did you used to apologize for that you no longer apologize for trying to think what i would apologize for

52:31i feel like i've been unapologetic like i feel like that's always i've lived my life yeah that's a good answer but maybe apologizing like like always having to like be perfect and now I'm like don't always have to be perfect because no one is perfect and that's what life is about and you can make a mistake but you learn from it and you grow from it so I feel like everything in life happens for a reason and even if you don't know the reason today one day you'll find out so you just have to like think about like in life that everything is a journey and it's all just gonna bring you up to the next level of like who you are in life.

53:18So yeah, it can be hard sometimes, but it makes you stronger. I really believe that. Paris, we were talking about this before, before we started recording, you posted a really, you know, heartbreaking video of losing your home earlier this year. And I had so many friends lose home. I'm sure you had so many friends lose home. It was, it was, you know, It was terrible. And LA is so large that when you're driving through it, you could even not see all of it. And I think a lot of people who are visiting LA would be like, where were the fires? And it's like, LA is just huge. There's so many areas that are sadly completely torn down and torn apart.

53:58Losing a home feels like one of the deepest grieving that you go through in life. to your memories, everything else. Talk to me about what it felt like to even go through that this year. And of course, it was such a shock for everyone. It was terrifying, you know, just to see just so much devastation. I've grown up in LA my whole life and just to see so many people lose everything was heartbreaking. And the night after the first night of the wildfires here, my husband and I are our kids and we were just eating breakfast, watching the news. And all of a sudden, we see this woman standing in front of this house and Carter looks and he's like, that is our house, the blue door in Malibu.

54:49And I looked, I was like, no, it's not. And then I saw the address and it was just like in the background, just like our house just in flames, burnt down to the ground, completely gone. And that's how we found out about it. And just, you know, right away, I was just thinking of all of, you know, the memories that I had with my babies there, all of the art that we made together, family heirlooms, just so many, you know, things that were irreplaceable and just so many memories, you know, all gone. And then I just started thinking about all of the other, you know, families and mothers and children who had lost everything and they had nowhere to go that night.

55:35And I was just completely heartbroken. And I reached out to my team, Rebecca, who's the head of my impact. It's called 1111 Impact, which is my impact arm of my company. And it's like, what can I do to help? And immediately went over to Baby2Baby and started helping them with just packing up supplies for families and And then went down to Pasadena Humane Society and fostered a dog and started filming all the pets there that had been lost in the fires and they didn't have collars. So just reuniting them with their families and posting them up so that people would know about them and making donations to them as well.

56:16And then called up Hilton and like, what else can we do? Like, we need rooms for these people. They have nowhere to live now. also put a bunch of families up in homes and then started a whole thing online. We raised like one and a half million dollars within two days and then partnered with GoFundMe and then raised even more money and then gave 50 small owned businesses, women businesses that lost their businesses in the fire, all big grants to rebuild. And then went out and been visiting in Alto Dina and just helped with the Alto Dina girls and built this living lounge where it's like this whole place where all these girls can go and hang out.

57:03And it's like really pink and beautiful and so fun. And they just had an opening with like two weeks ago and the girls were all there. So it was just so amazing just to see how much happiness it brought them. So even though, you know, losing our home, I immediately just started thinking about everyone else who'd been affected by it and seeing what I could do to make a difference. And, you know, people are still rebuilding, you know, even though the media is not talking about it anymore because the news cycles move so fast. People are still, you know, trying to rebuild their lives and we are still actively working with them to help that happen.

57:43And so it's been traumatizing, but also just seeing all the communities come together and so many people supporting each other. I thought it was such a beautiful thing to see. Yeah, I thought it was incredible to see the resilience of LA. I think LA gets such a bad rap sometimes for being weak or soft or being, you know, too whatever. And everyone was out on the streets helping each other. There was just so much community and there was so much camaraderie. and everyone showed up and it was all the examples that you were beautifully involved in. And just so much, just, I really felt alive here.

58:21Like it felt that everyone was trying so hard to help each other. And it was so beautiful to see the city come together, even though it was, you know, extremely tragic and traumatic for everyone who went through it. The fact that people showed up and served in everyone else's time of need, it was so needed. and I couldn't agree with you more. The work continues. It's not solved and it's not over and it keeps going. Paris, you've been amazing today as always. I love talking to you. I learned so much from you. I was getting to know you at the time and when I read your memoir, it transformed everything I understood about you.

58:58When I saw this documentary and even today after talking to you about it, I feel the same way that I don't know how you did it and I don't know how it felt, but I do know that it's extremely inspiring and it's going to give a lot of courage to a lot of people, and I really hope that it saves a lot of people from some pain, and I'm grateful that someone like you is able to put their story out there in a way to uplift and empower others and own their narrative and reclaim it. It's beyond needed, and I hope so many young men and women watch the documentary, read your memoir, and recognize that their lowest point doesn't have to be a continuation of their life and that they can transform it and turn it into something beautiful.

59:52And I want to end with asking you, we had to redo this because it's your second time. We're doing a quick fire round with you of some fun and some profound questions. So these are your fun questions, Paris Hilton. So what trend from the early 2000s do you wish the world would bring back and what trends should stay buried forever. I love seeing just so many people inspired by all of the trends that I created back in the 2000s. Just seeing just like all of the, you know, things that are blinked out, all the slogan tees, just the Motorola Razr flip phones, just all of the different styles of outfits like the fashion was just so much fun back then the one thing i don't like is ed hardy which i've noticed some people are wearing again i can't with it i was not into it i love that great answer we all wore ed hardy because of you so yeah i'm just gonna put that out there i'm glad i'm glad we didn't have that many pictures taken of us back then yeah i did Yeah, I know you did, but that's why we all did it.

1:01:05So I'm glad there's no pictures of me in Ed Hardy. That's what I'm saying. What's one headline from that decade that shocks you because it was so far from the truth? There was a story that said I was dating Michael Jackson, which I've grown up with him my whole life. My mom and him were best friends since they were 13. So he was like a family to me. So when I heard that rumor, I was like, you guys will literally make up anything. That is bizarre. Ridiculous. That is bizarre. Okay. All right. When you said that's hot for the first time, did you realize what you'd created? I was like seven years old.

1:01:43Really? My sister would always say it with me. Like it was something she actually said at first. And then I was like, I love that. So I started saying it a lot. And then when I got The Simple Life, then I had it trademarked. So I actually own That's Hot. But back then I would have never have known it would turn into such a pop culture. Absolutely. Infinitely iconic. Yes. Absolutely, infinite icon. Okay. If you and Nicole did The Simple Life today, what job would you want to try first? Well, we did for Peacock the anniversary special, which was so much fun. And we went back to Arkansas and went and visited the family we stayed with and all the people we worked for.

1:02:27It was so much fun. um but if we had to do something again I think it would be fun to be like nursery school teachers because we both love kids and we're so fun with them and they're I love how kids just say so many funny things so I think that would be a lot of fun I love that that's a great answer you've had an incredible multi-decade career what is the most full circle moment that you've had so far Being in D.C. and passing my first federal bill to protect children, that's something I've done a lot in my life that I'm proud of. But doing that work has been just the most healing and empowering work of my life.

1:03:13And I'm extremely proud that I'm able to protect so many children and to change 15 state laws as well. which as a little girl I never would have thought it would be possible that I could ever do something like that but how hard was that to get instated and how was it already not instated yeah like that's amazing like that's incredible thank you I mean that's huge thank you like that how hard was it to get something like that into action it's been a lot of work you know and I continue doing the work it's been four years of going back and forth to DC and speaking with all of the senators and legislators and telling my story and bringing other survivors with me to tell their stories.

1:03:55And it's something that my team and I are working on a daily basis because all children should be protected all around the world. And this is work that I'm not only doing in the States, I'm going to be doing on a global level because this is unfortunately something that is still happening today. And hundreds of children have died in the name of treatment and it needs to stop and you know no one was talking about it before I was and now it's turned into an entire movement where survivors are finally being believed and it's been so validating for so many of them and um it's made such a difference so that's just been um something that I can't as a little girl I never would have thought that was possible but proving anything is possible I mean that's beyond powerful.

1:04:46That's incredible. To be able to have that impact at that scale and protect so many people coming forward. And if we don't protect our kids, then what are we doing? To do that, that's really, really powerful. I can't wait to continue to see you do that internationally, especially because sadly, it's such a global issue. I know. That's the last question I'm going to ask you, Paris. So my last question is, what's a piece of advice that has kept you going through all the incredible highs and the incredible lows till this day, what's the advice? What's the insight? What's the wisdom that you carry?

1:05:18You can survive anything if you have heart and that you spread love and kindness throughout the world and that everything in life comes back to you, what you put out really comes back to you. And that people should just lead with kindness always. and the kindness is iconic. I love that. Kindness is iconic. I'm going to say that all the time now because you said that. And also, if anyone sees me wearing anything blingy, it's because Paris told me that because I shine a light, I'm allowed to do that. Exactly. You might start seeing me in bedazzled secret outfits. That's why I wore it today because you shine a light.

1:06:04So I was like, the light reflects in the light and we're both light. I love that. Paris Hilton, I'm so excited for people to watch infinite icon today again you've illuminated so much hidden meaning behind so many moments i learn so much whenever i'm with you i'm so excited for the world to get to see all of these incredible messages and i continue to be a fan and supporter and i feel so fortunate that i've got to know you and i cannot wait for uh to see what's next thank you for your time and energy thank you so much means so much coming from you and i'm so happy and i can't wait to do it again yeah me too Absolutely, we'll have you back in two years I love that If you love this episode You will also love my interview with Kendall Jenner On setting boundaries to increase happiness And healing your inner child You could be reading something that someone is saying about you And being like, that is so unfair Because that's not who I am And that really gets to me sometimes But then looking at myself in the mirror and being like But I know who I am Why does anything else matter?

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