Selena Gomez & Benny Blanco EXCLUSIVE: Their Love Story Like You’ve Never Heard Before

24 Mar 2025 · 1 h 35 min

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Episode Title

Selena Gomez & Benny Blanco EXCLUSIVE: Their Love Story Like You’ve Never Heard Before

Podcast Description In this episode of *On Purpose*, Jay Shetty invites global superstar Selena Gomez and acclaimed music producer Benny Blanco to share their unique love story, exploring their journey from friendship to romance. Their candid conversation delves into themes of trust, communication, and the power of love, emphasizing how relationships can flourish when the timing is right.

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Key Takeaways

Introduction

  • Jay Shetty emphasizes the goal of the podcast: to promote happiness, health, and healing through insightful conversations.
  • Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco open up about their relationship, highlighting its evolution from friendship to romantic partnership.

Themes Discussed

  • First Impressions & Awkward Beginnings:
  • Selena and Benny's initial encounters were marked by misunderstandings and mixed signals, with both feeling guarded.
  • Building a Strong Foundation:
  • They discuss the importance of establishing a solid friendship as a basis for their romantic relationship.
  • Themes of trust, respect, and open communication are emphasized as vital components of a healthy relationship.
  • Overcoming Past Fears:
  • The couple reflects on their individual fears and how they learned to embrace love despite those fears.
  • Benny shares the significance of allowing Selena to feel safe while opening up about their feelings.

Communication in Relationships

  • Open Dialogue:
  • The importance of transparent communication is highlighted, particularly in long-distance relationships.
  • Selena mentions that knowing Benny trusts her helps her cope with their busy schedules.

Relationship Dynamics

  • Emotional Support:
  • Both express the importance of supporting each other’s emotional needs and personal growth.
  • Benny describes how they address disagreements and frustrations, focusing on understanding rather than confrontation.
  • Maturity Over Perfection:
  • They discuss how maturity in relationships includes acknowledging imperfections and working through challenges together.

Love and Growth

  • Finding Genuine Love:
  • The couple reflects on their growth and how they met at the right time in their lives.
  • They discuss the beauty of falling in love when least expected, reinforcing the idea that love unfolds naturally.

Fun and Games

  • Jay leads a couples game that tests their knowledge of each other, revealing their compatibility and shared humor.

Future Plans

  • They briefly touch on their aspirations for family life, with Selena expressing her desire to become a mother and Benny's supportive stance on that future.

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Conclusion The episode concludes with Jay Shetty's gratitude for Selena and Benny's openness, framing their love story as a reminder that true love is about mutual growth, understanding, and support. The conversation offers insights into how love can thrive when nurtured with patience and care.

Resources Mentioned

  • Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco social media handles and websites for fans to follow their work.

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This episode serves as a reminder of the beauty of relationships and the importance of emotional intelligence in navigating love and partnership.

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2:10Subject to change. Hey everyone, it's Jay Shetty and I'm thrilled to announce my podcast tour. For the first time ever, you can experience On Purpose in person. Join me in a city near you for meaningful, insightful conversations with surprise guests. It could be a celebrity, top wellness expert, or a CEO or business leader. We'll dive into experiences designed to experience growth, spark learning, and build real connections. I can't wait to meet you. There are a limited number of VIP experiences for a private Q &A, intimate meditation, and a meet and greet with photos. Tickets are on sale now.

2:51Head to jsheddy.me forward slash tour and get yours today. I want to go back to the first time you ever met. Selena! Thank you so much for this. One of the greats. Thank you. I'm Selena, but we're watching Disney Kids. When you're a pop star like she is and you're a huge entity and people set up all these walls before and then the first second you like disarmed everybody. By the way, congratulations on your engagement. When you first were meeting and recording together, there was a sense of you were protecting yourself. What gave you confidence to open up?

3:31What I felt for Benny, it was everything about him was honest. He'll tell me anything that he's feeling, and it made me feel like I could do the same. If we would have met each other when we were younger, it would have never worked. We've both grown as individuals and met at the perfect time, and I believe life is like that. When Vinny looks at me, I don't think he sees anything but who I am and that's very rare to find. But when you do know, it feels right. You talk about being best friends so much. Was it scary thinking, what are we going to lose if this gets romantic?

4:14The number one health and wellness podcast. Jay Shetty. Jay Shetty. The one, the only Jay Shetty. Oh my gosh, I'm so happy to be here. You know, I love you both. I know, we love you. It's such a fun, like, coming together. When you guys called me and said you wanted to do this, I was just like, how special is it that we first met now seven years ago? And then because of you, I got to meet this amazing man. And I feel like we've kicked off a bromance. That makes me happy. Yeah. And because of you, I just feel like we've been spending so much time together. And so I'm so grateful to you both for trusting me and over the years and the fact that you've been on, you've been on and now we get both of you.

4:57It's like, it's so special. It's a very safe, cozy place. Benny and Selena. Hi. Welcome back to On Purpose for the first time together. I am so grateful to you both. It's been a joy getting to know you both over the last few years. And I am so happy for you both. Thank you. This is just so beautiful and special. And because of you, Selena, I got to know Benny so much more. And Benny and I have been hanging out. We've been meditating. We've been eating. I love that. That makes me really happy. But it's thanks to you. It's thanks to you for bringing us together. And I was just saying, as a man, it's so hard to make male friendships as you get older.

5:37I really, is that so? Yeah, I think so. Well, it's just like when you're an adult, it's like, I have my people. And that's like, what? I have to let a new person in? Like you barely have time for your people that you have. So you're like, wait, in order to get a new person, I have to like move another person down the list to slot a new person in. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Because there's not, you know, you start to get to an age. It's like, Larry David always says this. He says, I have friends that I'm not even friends with. I've just been friends with them for so long. I can't let them go because they're already built in.

6:06It's like a therapist. They already know everything. You can't teach a new person. That's hilarious. Celine disagrees. It's not necessarily that I disagree. I guess I just always thought that guys have this immediate, like, what's up? And then they're just like in a flow. So I just, I don't know. I found that interesting. Yeah. I feel like you get guarded as you get older a little bit. Sometimes I wish I weren't as wise because when I'm not wise at all, but I'm saying like, it's like when you listen to something like for me, for music, I listened to things when I was like 18 and I was like, oh my God, I didn't know any of the rules.

6:39I wasn't thinking of anything. it all comes so easily because you're not confined to like this box that you've put yourself in over the years. And then by the end, you're like, Oh, you know, I'm 36, almost 37. I'm like, Oh, I can't do that. And it's, it's like, there's, there is some sort of freedom to being really young too. There definitely is. There definitely is. But I was, I was saying that watching both your love story. And I know you were saying Selena, two seconds ago, you're like, this is such a safe and cozy space to come to. I'm hoping that today we get to know your love story on a deeper level and we get to access really what's in your hearts and minds, because I think there's so many interviews and so many things that kind of will touch on the surface level of stuff, but I hope we can go deeper.

7:22So what I want to start with is I want to actually rewind and I want to rewind to a place where we don't retell the story, but we get to relive your story with you. And I think there's a difference because when we tell a story, it's like, this is what happened. But when we've relive it, it's almost like going back to who we were when that happened. So I want to go back to the first time you ever met. And I want to hear about it. Well, the funny thing is, is we actually, it was so long ago that we don't remember. We know that her mother put us in a meeting together when, how old were you? 16. So she was 16.

7:58Wow, I didn't realize it was that long ago. And I'm like four or five years older than you. So I was probably 20, 21. And her mom was trying to get her into music. And her mom is amazing. The way she goes from room to room, gets things to happen. We've had her on the show, yeah. She's a powerhouse. Gets things to happen. And somehow she got us a meeting together. And we don't remember that. And after we had done the song together, there was one time where... It was probably 2016 or 17 or something. I remember when you were in a studio, like Interscope Studios, and I remember I came, she doesn't remember it, but I remember I came in and I had this talk with you and I remember being like, whoa, wow, like, Sinia's really like a complex person, like in a good way.

8:53And I was like, wow, she's so deep. And we had this conversation where I really, I was just really left by being like, oh, she's deep. And then we went and thought nothing more of it. And then when we did our song together, I remember leaving, not feeling romantic at all. I just remember leaving and I was talking, you know, cause when you're a pop star like she is and you're a huge entity and you've done so many things in your life, before, like people set up all these walls before. So it's like, you get like, like before I came in, they were like, well, you know, this thing's like this. And this is like this.

9:34And like, she might not want to do that. And like stop. And they, they speak for people so much. And then I remember we were so, me and the director were so nervous. And then the first second you like disarmed everybody. And I remember walking back and Jake was like, he's like the guy who directing with me is like, it's going to be so easy. What they, they made it seem like she was, this was going to be this crazy thing. And the warmth I felt from her in that moment. I remember leaving being like, wow, Selena's such a cool girl. And Selena, you don't remember this at all? No, no, she remembers that.

10:05I remember the video part, but it was interesting because, um, yes, I don't have a very good memory, but, uh, I just remember the video shoot. I didn't see anything romantic nor really felt that, but I had a really good time. And that was probably the first time after years of doing music together and not together. That was the first time I really got to hang out with him. And it was fun. I had a good time. And that was that. And then how it kind of continued was I was always cautious because I always wanted to make sure that I did protect myself. So to be honest, I didn't talk to him very often.

10:48I thought she hated him. Really? I really did. I knew that was coming. I really did. I thought she didn't, like, I would see her and I would be like, does she not like me? Like, we weren't thinking about anything. I was like, wow, she really, like, didn't talk to me a lot. And I was like, I thought I was being nice. And, like, my friends would be like, no, no. And then, like, there was another time I remember and my friends were like, oh, yeah, it's kind of weird. And I was like. I'm so sorry. And there was, like, a few times and I didn't know. And I was just like, you know, I was like, that's okay.

11:17I thought I was being, like, polite by not. she didn't really engage basically we i was working on some music and we we went through some of the demos that we had in single soon came up which is ironic because it was actually nowhere near where i was in my personal life but benny happened to do the song no i didn't even do this it was like one of my guys oh and you came to fix yeah and i like came to help out because I was like, oh, I want their song to, I was like, I don't like the way this product. Let me just at least help them. I said, I was like, well, I'm not sure if it'll be okay because I don't know if Selena likes me or something.

12:01And then John Janik, the president of Interscope, he was like, well, why don't you just go into the session? She usually doesn't have people in, but just go in and like, if there is something that you feel is weird, try to just smooth it over and talk to her and get in. And I said, okay, I'm going to go smooth it over. So I went in. It was so funny. Right before I came, her engineer told me like later that she was like, oh, Benny's coming. And she was like. And here's their reasoning. I'm going to defend myself. I get very nervous around the producers watching me sing. Of course. It's just a very intimate thing for me.

12:37I feel like I need to sound a certain way or do whatever to make them happy. And when I get to record with just me and my engineer and maybe someone I trust, I get more out of the experience. So I just was thinking, okay, well, maybe he'll stay for 10 minutes and we'll just talk for a second. And 10 minutes turned into like 30. Then he went to the other room and I finished recording and he stayed there. And then, yeah, this is too long. No, no, no, no. Okay. So from my perspective, here's what happened. I get in there and I'm like, I got to smooth this. I love this back and forth. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

13:17I was like, I don't have this with anyone. Like I was like, I want us to be chill. And obviously 99 % of it was in my head. And, uh, and I come in, we just started talking about life and her, uh, A &R is there. One of my friends is there and we're just, we're talking about life and we start talking about dating. And I was like, yeah, you know, I went out on this date, blah, blah, blah. And then I was talking to her and I said, oh my God, I have so many good single guy friends. I was like, we have dinners at the house all the time. You should come over sometime. And I wasn't even thinking about anything.

13:47And we're like talking about like our ideal date and like this and that. And I wanted to make sure she did the line. Right. So I was like, oh, I'll stay there to like, make sure it's good after. And then, um, so I did, we left and then I didn't have her cell phone number. Cause I, she changed her number a bunch. So like, I like asked someone, And I said, hey, give me your cell phone number. I want to say like, you know, thank. And I wrote, I was like, oh my God, you were. And during that, I, when I was with her, I was like, oh my God. I was like, not only, she's like really cool. I was like, I want, I was like, I want to be like, I was like, I want her to be like in our friend group.

14:27And I couldn't even be thinking. I was like, I want her to be in our friend group. And I want to make sure this thing smoothed out. So the song figures out, goes well and everything. So I said, let me just text her. Thank you or whatever. And I was like, you know, you were so sweet or something, something like that. And then she writes back. I guess we just were texting throughout the day. And she told me, she looked back at our message. She said, somehow you started sending like selfies where you looked really bad on purpose, like the worst ones in your phone. Yes, we were talking about. You started to do this.

14:58Yes. Which, by the way, no girls should really, or anyone in their right mind to someone they would have a crush on do that. but we were talking about ugly photos, like, cause I always say I take the worst photos sometimes. And he's like, Oh, you said something. And I sent him the worst pictures of me, like since like in bed sick. And then, you know, me at weird photo shoots and now looking back on it, I'm, I'm just thinking that's, these are so weird. I don't know why I sent it. Did you like me in that moment yet or not yet? Yeah. Oh, you did? Okay. That's what I was trying to figure out. I had no idea.

15:37So I had no idea. And somehow we decide. So wait, why did you do that if you liked Benny? Why were you sending? Well, because I didn't know that it was going to be, like maybe I thought it was just going to be flirting and not really anything else. Got it. But I really started to just, I don't know, fall for it. So I didn't know any of this. No. And then we decide, we're like, I forget how it happened. but we're like, yeah, let's hang out. And I was like, oh, my friend's having a birthday party tomorrow. I was like, just come along. And I was like, just thinking friend stuff. And then, so she comes to mine and I guess she thought the party was going to be at my house, but I was like, oh, in my head, I was like, oh, she'll just come over and we can just like grab a drink first and then go there.

16:24Like, not thinking anything of it. I was like, we'll just like grab a drink at my friend's wine bar. It's on the way. And then we'll go there. You were there and we were sitting together and she said something like, well, you know, because it's a date, I wore blah, blah. And I was like, I was like. No, I said, if this was a date, I definitely would have dressed like a nicer. And he just kind of looked at me and I thought we were on a date. And I was like, we're on a date. And then we went and then we didn't really talk about it. You thought, who thought it was a date? She thought it was. She thought it was a date.

16:58I'm sorry, a nice man takes me out for a drink. I'm assuming it's a date. I didn't know. But no one had asked each other out yet. No, it was like, let's just hang out. And then we go to my friends. We go to this Thai restaurant. We go to Jitlada. And we're like hanging out. And there's a bunch of people there. And then she all of a sudden leaves. And she was like, I have a video shoot really early in the morning. And I was like, okay. And I was like, but I wasn't like, because it wasn't a date to me or anything. So I was like, okay, cool. And I stayed with my friends and stuff. And then she texts me after.

17:27And I remember you being like, that was like one of the most fun times I've had in a really long time. Selena, so you technically asked Penny out on the first official day. She did. She did like every - Walk us through that confidence, that energy, because I think a lot of ladies listening - There wasn't any confidence. That's the scary part. I think that's when I recognized that I had some sort of feelings for him. Walking to his house or into his home to go to his friend's thing, I was very nervous. and I'm not normally like that unless it's like an event or something where it could be overwhelming but with anyone I talk to I'm able to talk to people and I feel like I'm good at it but I just felt like all these feelings and then when we went out I was laughing and I didn't feel like you wanted anything or there was weird motives it's it's sad that you know people have to think that way but i don't know i felt this immediate safety and i was very pleased that i don't know we were friends and memory i can you know the next time we hung out it was it was we just hung out at home and we just like we're chilling and we were playing that game uh we're not we're not Not really strangers.

18:52Oh, yeah, yeah. That's a great game. And my friend made that game. Oh, wow. And we were just playing it. And we had both played it. And I was like, okay, sure, we can play it. And we played it. And there was like a card that said, like, take a selfie together. And we like took a selfie. She like screwed up. We took a selfie. And then right after the selfie, we just kissed. And then. Oh, great. No, that's it. And then she's very private. And then basically the rest was history. And we started hanging out so much. and it just like very quickly, I was like, oh my God, my whole life, I was like, oh, this is my person.

19:31Like I'm going to marry this person. Oh, this is the thing. This is what it feels like. It was so different than any of those feelings. And I was like, holy shit. I just, I met my best friend. This is my best friend. Nothing gets any better than this. It can't get better. There's no, I, this is my, this is like better than any friend I have. That's a guy and I get to kiss them. Like it was like, it was, it was insane to me. So I was like, I can't let this go. I got, and it, it was so funny because before I met her, I, with my therapist, I'd made a list saying like, these are all the things I want.

20:06I'm tired. You want to know it? Okay. Okay. Okay. So So before I met her, you know, I was a guy in LA trying to find the one for me and I was having some trouble. And I think I was like maybe not looking in all the right places. And I was like, okay, it's time to be a grownup. Like I want to like start a life. I want to have a family. I want to find a person that like is my other half that makes me feel better. and I make them feel better. And it's a give and take. It's the perfect yin and yang. So I wrote down a list and the first thing on my list was age appropriate. Okay. So that was - I love that.

20:50That's great. And it was 30 plus. Okay. So I was number one on my list. Yes. Not number one, but it was the first thing I wrote. Yeah. And then the second thing I wrote was I said, I know these are so simple, but it's so hard to come by. Somebody who's kind, compassionate, and caring. I was like, that's really three in one. But that was my, but I was like, I need someone who's like nice and is like a genuine nice person. You said something really important. The reason I'm bringing it up is because I feel a lot of women, but a lot of people feel this way. And you said when you first were meeting and recording together, there was a sense of you were protecting yourself.

21:27Yes. And I think that's a very human thing. And I think it's a very normal thing, especially in this day and age, especially in your position to add to it. what was it that, you know, at one point you said, I'm going to adopt at 35 if I don't find someone. Like you had your whole life mapped out when you met Benny, but then, and you said you were protecting yourself, but then you started to open up. Could you walk us through what gave you confidence to open up, but what that feels like when you're trying to protect yourself? Because I think that's the push and pull that everyone's going through.

21:57Well, I think first of all, making plans and trying to stick to them is silly because you don't know what's going to happen and I can't believe that I get to marry my best friend. So it, but yes, I, I think for me, I was genuinely set, but it was once I let go of me just saying, I want someone and I wish I had this and I wish I had that. Instead, I changed my mind to, I'm so lucky that I get to wake up and my family is healthy and I love spending time with my friends. And you know what, if it doesn't happen, I know that I've always wanted to be a mom. And you know, so of course I kind of planned that out.

22:43I think it was because when Benny looks at me, I don't think he, he sees anything but who I am. And that's very rare to find. He knows when I'm feeling a certain way and kind of before I can even let it get to a place where it's unbearable, he has already talked to me through the spiral and protecting myself on multiple reasons, you know, doing, you know, doing music, working with someone that's kind of, you know, like, oh, I don't know if I should do that. But I genuinely just watched, it just happened. I think when you know, and oh, that's so cheesy to say, but when you do know, it feels right.

23:33I think that that's what happened to me. And I just felt very comfortable with it. Yeah. Benny, how do you feel that you almost sabotaged your relationship by nearly introducing Selena to your friends? How does that feel? Like when you're like, hey, wait a minute, come and meet my friends. There might be some nice guys for you to meet. I feel like it all happens for a reason. I feel like maybe me doing that is what disarmed her enough to like, you know, it's, we talked about this before. Like if we would have met each other when we were younger, it would have never worked. It's like, we've both grown as individuals and met at the perfect time.

24:07And I believe life is like that. And sometimes it doesn't make sense. And sometimes it's not the right reasons. And we're like, why is this happening? But I always believe that I, you know, I don't know. I believe in fate. I believe in all that. And I believe, you know, if you're good to people karmically, it's going to come back to you 10 times over. Maybe you might get in that moment and someone's going to do you really dirty, but over a long period of time, I think things are going to go your way. Yeah. Was it scary because you, you talk about being best friends so much. Was it scary thinking, what are we going to lose if this gets romantic as friends no no it happened right away this was all one day that was one day like like everything really happened within and then look there was at once we knew that we liked each other there's that part where like you know we're both extremely busy people so it's like it takes a second to where you fully prioritize you know because it's like, at first you date someone, you say, okay, I'll see you this time once a week.

25:12And then it's like, oh, okay, this person's getting cool. We'll go twice a week. And it's like, wait, don't leave my house. I miss you. Like it all happens so quickly. One thing that you both did was you had a long distance relationship for a while. Like you were in different states and managing that. You both have crazy work schedules. And I was thinking in your positions, it can get very easy to be like, oh, that person's never available. They canceled again. Like, well, they've got a million things. they're running away. I mean, you were just about to say you both are starting to travel together right now for work as well.

25:42But how did you manage that? Because I think a lot of our viewers are like, do long distance relationships work and do too busy people relationships work? How would you both say you've managed both of those parts? Biggest thing in the world is trust. I can say with all my heart that I trust this person. So for me, knowing that I have a 12 to 14 hour day on set, I won't get to talk to him every second, which I don't need. But I know just hearing from him one time, check in with me and say, I love you. And I hope the day is going well. I just feel safe. And I've never felt that before. And if you feel like you're in a situation that doesn't feel like you're a unit, that makes it scarier.

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26:31And then that causes friction. Then it causes trust issues. So for me, I would have to say communication and trust helps, but it, it doesn't always work. It's hard. I feel like at the beginning, there were a few, uh, almost, almost sabotages. She didn't like, she was like, that's fair at the very beginning and like her first few trips away, she was still gaining that trust. So there was, there were moments of sincere doubt. No, yeah, yeah. We all have moments in our life because we're only made up. I tell everyone this. It's like when you start dating someone, you're not only dating them. You're dating every single person they've ever dated, every single relationship they've ever had in their past.

27:21because you're getting every piece of baggage that that person's carried and that what they've learned through their own personal life, through the life with partners, with their parents, with this, that. And I had to find a way to build that trust with her, not make it feel overbearing and make it feel real and make her actually believe it and vice versa. Like I know that she fully, if I say, hey, I'm just going to do this today, there's nowhere in her mind that's thinking that. And if for any chance that she, I always told her, I said, it's okay. If you have moments of doubt in something, in a feeling, always talk to me and I'll talk you through anything that you may have.

28:04You know, if you say, hey, I know this is a crazy thing. I just had a dream and I woke up from this dream and I was upset. Sometimes she'll just say like, please tell me I can trust you or please tell me you're not doing anything stupid. And I say, you can call me anytime you want. And I'm aware of her strengths and I'm aware of her weaknesses. And what I try to do is surround her with a lot of things to help her. So if she's away and I have to go to a dinner, then a party, then this thing, then that thing, it's a simple text in between each thing that says, hey, babe, I'm going to this next thing I'm thinking about you.

28:45Hey, you know, where couples, where it starts to hit is when they miss that text. They don't call the person. They wait until the next day. Like, it's just like, I know what she needs to succeed. So I'm going to help her succeed. I'm not going to be a dick. I'm not going to hit her up. And she doesn't need a lot. She's like the easiest person in the world. But I know, yeah, she wants to talk to me before she goes to bed. She wants me to say, I love you. She wants me to text her if I wind up having to stay somewhere two hours late. Just a simple take out your phone and done. And I know that, no, I know that stuff really helps, especially when you're long distance.

29:29Because it's natural. You're far away from someone. You say, I'm not with this person. I'm not as connected to them. We're not meant to be far. You're not supposed to be long distance with your partner. You're supposed to be right next to your partner. Like, it's like, it's, we do things in life that, that we have to do. And we both are very focused on our careers and we're very driven and you have to find a way to make it work. That's comfortable. You have to talk to your partner. You have to understand them. I think people's biggest problems, especially men are that we don't listen all the time.

30:04You got to listen, just shut the up and listen, listen to what they're saying. A woman is going to tell you exactly what she needs. Like when guys are like, I don't know what she wants. I don't know. She told you already. You're just an idiot. You're not listening. Just listen. A girl is, if a girl is getting frustrated with you on something, she's definitely told you multiple times and you're just not paying attention. So it's like, just listen and don't be reactionary. Proactively do these things. I don't know if you do the same thing, but when, when you're away from your partner, you just try to think of little things that's going to make them feel more comfortable, better.

30:37You know, I'm, I'm on the other hand, I'm like living on the moon. So it's like, she doesn't have to really do anything for me. Cause I'm like, I'm all in on, on everything with her and I fully trust her in every capacity. And my whole life, I've always been like this. I trust everyone until they give me a reason not to. Okay. And I trust people to be who they are. Okay. And so far I know who she is. So until further notice, that's how I'm going to treat her. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I totally get that. Yeah. That's my thoughts on it. I love that. I couldn't be more excited to share something truly special with all you tea lovers out there.

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33:06And we were about to go to New York and we just made a conscious effort that we were like, we don't want to do this anymore. We want to be able to go out and have fun and like, and, you know, just live our lives. And at that point I knew that it was serious enough to dive in, like, that I was like, okay, I don't care what comes with this because I love this person so much already that like we literally said, I love you on that trip. She had already said, I love you to me a few times. Okay, wait. So the album, I said, I love you first. Yes. So Selena, you said, I love you first. Yes, she said it a few.

33:45What made you want to say that? Because that's a big step. I definitely have never been the first. So this is the first time in your life you were the first? Yes. Wow. I wanted him to also know how committed I was And deep down, I just felt that. And I was tired of protecting myself. We had spent enough time together where, you know, I felt like this was my person. And I had the courage enough to say it, but I was very nervous. And luckily, he said it back. Did you say it back the first time? Well, there was a few. Okay. Well, there's been some slip-offs. Okay. Okay. Okay, well, she was, she has a plate in her hand because she had like an accident.

34:35And she was like coming up from, I think that was. Oh, he's talking about a metal plate. Yeah, she had surgery or something. She was coming out of anesthesia. And she was like sitting there and she was like, I love you. And then I was like, what? And she was like, and she was like, I love you. And I. I don't remember. I didn't say anything back yet because I was like, I can't have this be the first time. And then one time she was with her friends and they were at dinner and she was like, oh, we really wish you were here. We love you. I mean, and then just hung up. Like it literally was like, and then she started wanting to really say it.

35:13And she was like, it was right when I was going to do it. It was the same night. And I was like, hey, let me get my stuff out. And he literally, he said that. And then I just said, I love you. And I was like, please just let me out. Because I had felt it. And I was about to do it. And I was like, I want to wait till New York. So it's special. Be in my house. It'll be a good thing. And then the day I was doing it, she couldn't take it anymore. And she said it. And then we said it. And the thing that's crazy is, before you say I love you, it's like this thing. It's like taboo you're scared to say.

35:55And then after you're like, oh my God, I can't, like, you want to say it a thousand times in a row. You never want, I can't even understand how I went so long without saying it to her. I say it 3000 times a day to her. And I like, I make sure every day I say, I love you so much. Like, I love you a million times. And then I always tell her how beautiful she is and how lucky I am to have her every day. You know what I mean? That's so annoyingly cute. And I always want to do that because I want her to know that every day I don't take anything for granted. And I still look at her and my breath gets taken away in so many different ways.

36:32And I said to her last night, we were in the pool or something together last night. And we were just hanging out. And I was just like, you're so beautiful. And I don't mean that just physically. I'm saying you can feel it. there's like a ring, like an aura around her that exudes just like warmth. And it just - You're like making me want to cry. How do you react in the moment when that happens, Selena? Because Benny, we're basically the same person. I do the same thing to my wife. I do that to Radhi all the time. Like we're so lucky. And Radhi will just pull the funniest face in the world. She does the same thing.

37:06I was like, how do you react when Benny's telling you all these amazing things, Selena? What do you say? Because I say, no, let's be honest. I also am equally grateful. And I tell him that all the time. I just, it makes me feel like it's not real. And I'll like, sometimes I'll be like, this seems too good to be true. Like, he's so sweet to me. But now I've accepted it. I think I actually love it so much that it just makes me want to give him that support and that love back. So it's safe to say I feel much safer doing that now. And I like it. I think so many people feel that when someone's that nice, and that's coming from someone who's like that myself with friends, family, and obviously with my wife too.

38:00A lot of the time that's seen as a weakness. like people kind of look down on it when someone's that open about their feelings especially I get asked that a lot when I'm giving relationship or dating advice people be like oh no but if if I come on too strong people get turned off what this time was different for you where it's like he's he's being really affectionate he's being really open but there's a part of you that realizes that's what you want and that's what you deserve because the world has become so hard to please, if you will. I'm called fake. I'm called, it's insincere. It's fake. All of this, it just doesn't feel safe.

38:43And I don't like being myself sometimes. And that's a bigger problem than just talking about it in a relationship because it makes you feel like you have to question the way you're acting. And I genuinely, yeah, I have really bad days and sometimes I don't have the energy to do what I'm doing, but I try 99 % of the time to be kind and to just be happy and grateful for what I have. And that just almost isn't cool anymore. And I hope that that conversation can kind of start eventually because it's not, it's not good. I want to always be that person that I was, but it gets harder and harder. What I felt for Benny, it was, it was everything about him was honest.

39:36It wasn't just that he was honest with me. He was honest about where he was at in life and he'll tell me anything that he's feeling. And it made me feel like I could do the same, but he's the one person, you know, and you're saying those nice things to me, babe. It's like so sweet, but I believe in to where I'm not going to believe someone who is blowing smoke up my butt to just make me feel good. He's saying it because he means it. And I believe it. Yeah. That's beautiful. That honesty that someone has in every area of their life, including their bad days, their tough days, their challenging days, then when they're saying that whether their day is good or bad and they feel that way, it resonates with us.

40:22I think we all sense that. And I love what you said. I think it's so important that we make it cool again to care for people and be cared for. And we make it cool again to love people and feel loved. And we make it cool again for people to be kind and to receive kindness. I feel like it's like a macho thing. Like guys, guys are always trying. It's like, stop trying to be cool. Like it's like guys try to be so cool. And like, they don't want, I think it's cool to show your emotions. I think it's cool to tell you the person, like I call my mom and up and I tell her how beautiful she is too. Like, and I, I think it's cool to make people feel good.

40:56I think it's cool to like, you know, I just feel like people like are trying to push people down a lot sometimes like to make themselves feel better, but you look so much cooler and so much better if you're making other people feel better. Yeah, but it's not even that you would look more. No, I know. You'd feel like a better person. That's what I'm saying, though. But it's like, I don't understand why people choose not to do that. And it's like. Yeah, it's something I'm very passionate about, something that I do want to start talking about more. I want to be a good example. I'm not the perfect person.

41:29Lord knows I've made tons of mistakes and continue and will continue to. but I think it's important that we talk about that. Yeah. I'm really glad you both raised it because I think so many of us are actually accepting less than we deserve because we want what's cool, not what we deserve. Yeah. Like me explaining to you right now, I want to change my whole approach to anything because of like one thing that I did. Like that's sad. I don't want have to change who I am. Like that was hurtful for sure. I don't ever want to do, I don't do any of that. Like when some people, I don't care what's going on.

42:07No, he's great at that, which helps me not care as much. I don't care about what anyone says. I don't care about comments. I don't care about press. I don't care about interview. I don't care about what anyone says. I just try to, yeah, I just try to, have you always been that way? Yeah. What, what made you that confident? Cause I think a lot of people need to hear that. Cause it's like this. Okay. Why are you reading the comments, okay? There's two reasons. You're either reading the comment because you want people to be like, oh my God, I love you. Or you want someone to say, you piece of shit, you're ugly, you look like shit.

42:42You know what I'm saying? And you don't need either one of those answers. I'd rather just free fall through life and I don't need to know any of that stuff. And I've never even read an interview back ever that I've ever done. I don't look at the pictures. Like I asked my manager, I say, hey, did I say something stupid in the interview? And if he says yes, I said, what did I say that was stupid? Or I say, okay, great. If it's something like, I don't want to know. There's always going to be someone trying to bring you down. Hating is free. Okay. So people are going to be hating all over the world.

43:14They're going to be hating from their bedroom. They're going to be there. And I just don't even understand it. I've never even thought in my mind to like, to like go on someone's page, be like, Jay, that shirt's ugly. Why'd you wear that? Those stripes look like shit, Jay. No, I never even thought about that. Like, if anything, I write like, oh my God, I love this show, Jay. Like, and I just don't think, we live in this weird world where people seek validation in so many different ways. And I don't think, and I know it's hard. I know it's hard and people want it and you want to read the comments.

43:48You want to look at it. But I just don't think I'm going to gain anything from it. In that time, I could be looking at those comments. I could be hanging out with my friends or like going on a walk or eating something delicious. It's much healthier. Yeah, I think you have that too. And it's why you've been so successful in music, Benny, yourself, because I think you can create original sound because it's not trying to be like someone else or impress someone else. It's partly why you're so good at your craft. Yeah. Because to make great music, to invent new sounds, to create new genres, to create spaces for artists to play in, it requires that confidence in, I'm not trying to sound like this.

44:25I'm not trying to be like this. I'm not trying to impress. So it's really interesting too, because I feel like when you're growing up, your whole life you're told to fit in. And then when you grow up, you have to stand out. But then when you stand out, then everyone has a chance to point fingers because when you're doing something differently, that's the only time people point fingers. If you kind of follow what everyone else is doing, not all ever point fingers. Do you read the comments? No, I'm the same as you, but I got really good advice early on as well. I remember someone saying to me, they said, Jay you get If you get a hundred comments You're going to look through all of them To find the one that's negative Of course That's the way the brain's wired Of course And then you make it out Like that one negative comment Is the entire comment section And so if someone said Jay those stripes are ugly I'm not walking around my whole life Thinking the stripes are ugly And let's get honest That goes even deeper If someone says something about you When you were saying Like someone called you fake Or someone called you this Well I was basically also going to point out that women have it much worse please tell yeah from my perspective it's it's pretty um wild and i think this isn't news to anybody that obviously women have a lot more intense feelings from their appearance to you know what they are wearing to everything and i'm saying this is to me when I get prepared for an event, 90 % of the time, I'm just like, I just hope I can take the picture and sit down.

45:58It's the character that gets judged. It's the way I'm not white enough. I'm not Mexican enough. I'm, I don't know. There's just these so many different things that come up in my face that I can't help but see. But I fall victim to looking at things. And it really, it doesn't add to your life, but it's just so difficult from the choices of the people you date. It's like, nobody cares about those kinds of things with men. They're just like, yeah, they did that. They said that. They did this. And so I think we just carry a lot But, oh yeah, my weight's a big one too. Everyone just has something to say and it's really making me sad.

46:46And not even sad because you know what? No, I'm not a victim of everyone. I just think it's made me a tad bitter. And I feel really guilty for saying that, but it's true. I don't know. It's a really interesting time, isn't it? Because, and I'm so happy that you both are talking about this because I feel like on one end, we're all like body positivity. Let's talk about mental health. let's protect each other like there's this whole conversation and then on the other side we're like pointing fingers at people about their weight and their appearance and whatever else it is like you said judgments of character especially you're saying with women and I find that so interesting because I'm like wait a minute don't we realize that the same people who are saying mental health matters are the same people that are pointing fingers at people that can affect people's mental health I'm just happier that I don't have that you know I had to stop after a while and I still take breaks completely because I'm human.

47:42So of course, sometimes I read things and, but I do most of the time, ignore most of everything. I don't have anything on my phone at the moment. So there are ways to combat it. I'm doing it. I'm not in like, um, I'm not in like, I hate it. I understand the power of what social media is. It's just, um, tricky. Yeah. Yeah. It is very tricky. But thank you guys. Yeah. Thank you for opening up about it because I can imagine it just gets exhausting after a while. It's just, just tired of it, you know, because it's all the same and you're processing all the same stuff. But what about you, Selena? What's been the way that you've been able to manage your crazy work schedule, staying committed to the relationship, finding time to make memories and make space?

48:27I think, you know, I will say it's very hard for me. And like Benny said in the beginning, it was very difficult for me to take trips away. It just makes me feel, once I understood and got to know him, and I wasn't afraid to tell him, like, hey, I just want to make sure, like, it's not that I don't trust you. Can you just text me before you, you know, go to your next thing? and I was able to do that with him and he wasn't combative. He wasn't like, why? I don't, what, you don't trust me. It was just more like, yeah, I could totally do that. And with that day by day, I feel more and more open and, you know, we're going to be separated again while I go shoot in New York and, um, yeah, I'm ready for it.

49:19I think it's, it's doable, but it's not fun. Exactly. It's not fun, but, but it found, it sounds like you've found a system that works for you. And the, the system is so simple is literally just listening to the other person. If the other person says, Hey, I need this. It's not now like a debate around whether they don't trust you. Cause I think a lot of us, if someone said that to you, Benny, like it would be easy for your reaction to be like, well, how can you not trust me? Like you always know where I am. Like how, why do I have to do this every day? Like you could have that reaction, but that reaction doesn't make the relationship better.

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51:34I'm like, no, because I'm like, shit, I have to approach this in a different way because she came at it with such class and effort. So like, I'm not going to come back at her like that. I'm going to come back at her and say, well, I agree with what you're saying. Or, you know, I disagree and here's why, you know? And that's how we talk through everything. And then another thing was I really wanted a person that when I wake up, I think to myself, I'm like, how can I make Selena's day better? Like how, what can I do in my day to make her day better? Because then that makes my day better. And I wanted to find a person like that.

52:10And I know when Selena wakes up, like the first thing she's thinking is like, how can I make his day better? And we have such a give and take. Like I could never even see a world where I would ever yell at her. She would ever yell at me. Like we don't argue like that. Like I feel like we just have conversations. Like there's never an argument. Sometimes she'll say, this is so funny. Oh boy. No, no, no. She'll do this and it's really cool. She'll go, I'm feeling a little irritated and I think I need like 25 minutes. And I'll say, okay. And then I give her her space. And then after like five minutes, she texts me.

52:47She's like, hey, will you come back? But it's knowing that, and we have the proper boundaries set with each other. Like I don't have to be on top of her every second. She doesn't have to be on top of me every second we're together. I just want to know she's in the house so I can say like, hey, I love you. And then go back to what I'm doing. You know what I mean? Because look, we're both highly independent people. Okay. But we're both little mushes who just need to be attached. Yeah, we are so cheesy. It's so fun. Yeah. But it's like, but I feel like, I think it helps us too that we're both, you know, on my list.

53:26thing was I wanted someone to be driven and inspired by something. I didn't care if they made any money or anything. I just wanted someone to be so into something that they did every day. And when she comes back from her day and she tells me what she did, I'm like, I'm not sitting there like, yeah, like when you're talking to your mom, you know, when you're talking to your mom and you just say, your mom just keeps talking to you. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. Like she comes back and like my eyes light up because I see the enthusiasm. I see what she did. And I'm like, it inspires me. And I'm like, I got to do more in this.

53:59And it's like, we're in this place where we're inspiring each other. And we're so inspired by what the other person's doing. And she'll help me out. She'll be like, well, what if you did it like this, this, and this? And I'm like, and then she'll say something. And I'll be like, well, why don't you handle the situation? Because we have such different personalities that are also the same, but we're the thing that one of us is really good at. The other one maybe lacks a little bit and vice versa. And it's so cool to be able to like workshop, like little conversations or how to handle a situation.

54:35And I just feel so comfortable with her, like that I can say anything and she won't ever say, I don't know. I love the maturity. I mean, hearing you both talk about it. Yes, but let's be clear. We are not the perfect. No, no, no. It's not perfect. No, but you're disagreeing. No, no, no. But I think the maturity of, and I agree with you. I think that's actually the difference. And I'm glad you brought that up. I think there's a big difference between maturity and perfection. Perfection is saying we never have a disagreement. We never have to take space from each other. Which you're not saying. You're saying, hey, I just asked for 25 minutes space.

55:10And then I was like, wait a minute, I need you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think there's a maturity in that because it requires maturity from both parts. For you to first say, hey, I need space. For you to say, I get it, I respect you. And then for you to have the maturity to say, actually, I want you back. And for you to be like, not like, oh, I told you so. For you to be like, I'm here for you. Like that's not perfection. To me, that's maturity. And I think that's, I really want people to get that from it, that you are going to have disagreements. You are going to want space. Like me and Riley went through that.

55:40She, at the beginning of our relationship, if we had a disagreement and we were the same, We made a rule that we would never raise our voices at each other because I came from a home where it was not great. She comes from a home where her parents don't raise their voices. But I was just like, I never wanted that in my home. I wanted the energy of my home to be so sacred. And I wanted the energy of the home to always have a space where everyone just walked in and felt like a warm hug. And I was like, we can't argue and then expect that to happen. but it took a long time for us to realize that when she at the start of our disagreements, she wanted space.

56:15And I used to say to her, well, if you don't want to talk about it right now, that means you don't care about me. And that wasn't true. She just needed space to process. So it took time for us to mature for me to realize, wait a minute, you wanting space, is you caring for the relationship? Some people, I get it. They want to talk about it right then. They want to, the one thing that also works for us so much is like, we're not chill people, but we're like, we're not, we're never going to get, I like, I'm not going to yell at anyone in my life. Yeah. And you know, I, I came from a home where a lot of that was happening and I saw like at a young age and I was just like, well, like my parents weren't speaking the same language.

56:55Obviously they were speaking the actual same language. They weren't speaking the same language to each other to communicate. And if someone comes at you like hostile right away, the first thing I'm going to do and I know she's going to do is shut down. So you're not getting anything. You know, and I always say this, guys are so quick to like, they got to win. They got to win the argument. And it's like, what are you doing? What are you winning? Like, you're going to argue with your wife and like make her cry. And then you're like, I won that argument. And then she hates you and resents you. Like, wait, like, don't be an idiot.

57:28And it's like, I only - I've been guilty though, to start. Yeah, I don't know. Not if you, sorry. I think for me, I necessarily felt like in other situations of mine, I was very reactive. I think that's why I was alone for five years, because I really needed to collect myself. I think in the past, that's why I say to him all the time, And 10 years ago, it's not that I wouldn't have wanted to be with you. I just wouldn't have been in the right headspace. And I don't think that you deserve what I had gone through before. So I've learned a lot of lessons and I've made mistakes. And I just want this to be right.

58:17So for me, that was a lesson that I had to learn because I think girls can equally want to be right. That for me, it was really difficult in the past. And he's made it unbelievably easy to the point where if I even get to the point where I'm so frustrated, he's like very quick to understand. I hear you like you're allowed to feel that. And that helped me shift where my mind used to go, which was a little bit of anger. So it was the validation of how you felt in those reactive moments that allowed you to not be reactive. What was it that allowed you? Because I feel like, as Benny was saying earlier, you carry this baggage from all of our relationships into this one.

59:00I respect Benny. Because he's done nothing but respect me. I, again, trust him. I can tell him anything, even if it's about something that's uncomfortable. And maybe you should just talk to your girlfriends like he is that. And that helps calm me down to say, okay, so I'm going through these things because of maybe what I had before or whatever it is. It's not, nothing is ever bad. Like nothing in my life I regret. And I'm so, so happy for my journey and I'll continue to be. It is a lesson that you have to be patient and learn. And I just, I can never picture myself disrespecting him. I think.

59:47which it's also just a different thing because it's like, look, none of us are perfect. Like she gets spicy sometimes. And when I see something happening, it's about guiding the missile, not adding a jet pack on top of it with like machine gun artillery. Like I want to make, if I see her getting to a place where I'm like, man. And five minutes from now, this room could explode. I'm never going to let it get to that five minutes from now. I'm going to say, what are all the tools that I know that work for her, that I've learned over? Like, I'm not going to exacerbate a situation. I'm going to try to calm it down.

1:00:26Because why do I want to be in that position where we're both just like upset about something? I don't want to just calm it down and tell her what she wants to hear. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying like to your partner, be like, yes, you're right. You're totally right. Like everything you know. No, I think you listen and you say like, okay. Like sometimes I even, I'll say like, let's not let it get there. Let's like just talk about this. And I do think physical touch is always like a very big way. Like if you're in a conversation with your partner, like it's like sometimes just like a hand helps or just holding their hand while you're telling them or giving them a hug while you're telling them.

1:01:02And if someone's upset, let them talk it out first. And then after they talk it out, be like, okay, well here's what I think you know and you can work through these things together such an easy way very constructive it's not always easy I can tell you that and sometimes we just someone wants to be frustrated and it's like sometimes she'll tell me that she'll just be like I know it's gonna be okay but like I just want to be frustrated in this moment and I'll have to redirect because I'll be like you know what you have every right to be in this moment and she'll say this is why she said this is why I want to be frustrated in this moment She said it the other day about something.

1:01:37I can't even remember. And I was just like, oh my God. I was like, yeah. I was like, that makes so much sense. I was like, I don't agree with the frustration. We'll get there afterwards. And I was like, but I get it. I get it. And it's so cool. And I've never quite had a relationship like with her. And we're the furthest thing from perfect in the world. We're perfect for each other. We're not perfect for everyone else. But I think the thing that's cool is that we've had all these experiences. I've had all my experiences where it wasn't right. And I'm like, oh, okay, I'm going to change that the next time, you know, with this person or with that person.

1:02:11And I think that's when you really grow is when you take all your experiences, good or bad. Like I, I'm like her, I take every experience in my life, my past partners, my family, my everything. It's like everything happened for a reason. And I'm not going to sit here and mope about like things that could be better or different. What I'm going to do is I'm going to say, okay, I learned this. And now I'm going to put it into practice. Yeah. Yeah. For me, I always, I always said to Radhi, I always say to my wife, do you want me to listen? Do you want me to fix this? Or do you just want me to go through it with you?

1:02:45Yeah. Cause a lot of times. Make it clear for me because. They don't want you to fix it right away. And I'm not saying, I'm saying men or women. Sometimes it's not about fixing, you know, everyone is, you know, I'm such a problem solver and you are too. So it's like your first thing. I know the first thing in your head is like, how can I fix this situation? But sometimes it's not about fixing it right there. Sometimes it's about just like, you know, especially for women who are like strong, like both our partners, they don't have a lot of time to be vulnerable in all the areas of their life. They have the world on their backs.

1:03:17Your wife has, there's so many people that rely on her. There's so many people that rely on her. So sometimes they just want to complain about something and that's okay. That's okay. Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's okay. Who else are they going to do it to? They might as well do it. And you just listen. Parking shouldn't slow you down. ParkWiz gives every driver a shortcut. Book ahead, save up to 50 % and skip the hassle of circling the block. Park smarter, park faster. ParkWiz. Download the ParkWiz app today and save every time you park. This week on a very special episode of Health Discovered, we're taking a closer look at a condition that affects hundreds of thousands of men each year, prostate cancer.

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1:04:39Did you? If you could. Would you? When we come through, it's true magic. Because we came to play. Bring the magic at Walt Disney World Resort. I have to ask you both about this because I was so excited when the news came out. and it just, you know, it was, it was so beautiful to see it go from where it started to this, but your proposal and now you're engaged. And like that just, I can tell, I mean, it just, it feels just beautiful being in the same space with you both loving on each other, which is great. Selena, what was the proposal like? We have a video of it, but I want to save that for us and just keep that private.

1:05:22But basically what I will share is that I thought we had a shoot that day and I had hair and makeup and I was doing my regular day. I get in the car and I'm thinking to myself, where are we going? Because at this point I feel like I know a lot of the studios that I go to and I just started getting a little frustrated because I was like this seems far right and I'm just talking just me and my security and he's laughing because he's just like oh it's just you know I don't know it's a new space I was like okay we get out I just I walk in and all of a sudden I see no one's in the room and I just look at my assistant and she just shuts the door.

1:06:11And I was like, uh, and I like kind of walked on to, you know, the area that he had set up. And, um, you know, I think you envision all the things that you would do and say when someone asks you, but it is actually the craziest feeling. It was really special. He, he said the sweetest things, but I also was so shocked that it, It just felt unreal for a long time. And I don't know. I've always dreamt of that moment and he couldn't have made it more perfect. And yeah, it was one of the best days of my life for sure. I wasn't nervous until one second before. I was so not nervous. I was doing work until one second before.

1:06:58I was approving Masters for an album that was coming out that night. And then right when it happened, right when it was about to happen, I said, oh shit, what the fuck am I going to say? And I'm so good with words usually. God, I can't remember anything. If we didn't have a video of it, I wouldn't even remember what I said. I had known I was going to propose to her for so long. And I never cared about marriage. It wasn't a thing in my head. She cared about it so much. So I said, well, now I care about it because she cares about it. And I found myself not even thinking it was going to be a big deal until I was there.

1:07:37And then I said, holy shit, I'm getting married now. And in the moments leading up to it, it's not really real until it's real. I remember it was so special for me because it was special for her. And then it was, yeah, she said, the two times you said that were the best things in your life were that. and then I got you Whataburger. Yeah. What's this? I want to know about this. Whataburger is a restaurant chain that I'm not sure where they are, but they're not in California and they're not in New York. And I love this chain so much because there's a million in Texas where I'm from. And I love the biscuits, Texas toast and gravy.

1:08:22It's so good. And we don't have that. And for Valentine's Day, he surprised me. And this was it. This is all we really did. I was on the phone and he comes in with Whataburger. And I literally look at him like I'm freaking out. And he had someone, apparently they opened up in Vegas. And while we were talking, someone drove, kept it warm and then brought it. No, didn't keep it warm. Did you reheat it? What I did was I got all the parts to it and talked to the people there and figured out how I could reheat it the best way. And I was reheating it in all different ways, putting it together. And then, yeah, I brought it to her.

1:09:06Because to me, someone like Sel could have anything in the world. The best thing you could do, and she said it right after. She said, right when I gave it to her, she said, I can't believe you listened and remembered my order and remembered all these things in such an easy way. And then you just did it. She said, that's what makes this gift so special is that you actually like listened to the things. And it goes such a long way. I did say that my two favorite moments are the proposal and one burger. I was just thinking. So far, he's done wonderful things. That's brilliant. I was just thinking something so crazy.

1:09:43Did you know we were born within 10 minutes from each other? Yeah. Really? Yeah. On the same day? No, no, no. Place. Oh, right. I was born in Texas. Yeah, I was born right near her, like 10, 15 minutes away. And you never met in Texas ever? No. No, he can't claim. No, I don't claim Texas. No. No, I was born in Texas, but I grew up in Virginia. I claim Texas. She claims Texas. She claims Texas. Do you remember your proposal? Of course I remember my proposal. What did you do? It was very, I would say I was definitely impacted by lots of social media trends, for sure. Or in my first chapter of my second book, which is all about love, I talk about how I would redo my proposal.

1:10:27Because - Oh, you didn't like it? Not that I didn't like it. It was perfect for the time, but it so wasn't us. What was it? So I'll tell you. It's embarrassing, but I'll tell you. I'll tell you. So we were walking down one of our favorite walking paths on the Bank of the Thames in London. Yeah. And we're walking down. I told Radhi that we were going to a dinner with my family and it was in a nice place. So she's dressed up and everything. And we come out and then this random guy out of nowhere walks out with a bouquet of flowers, a massive one, he hands it to her. And then I had an acapella group sing Bruno Mars.

1:11:02And it was really sweet. They were great. They were very talented. And then I got down on one knee and then I asked her to marry me. And thankfully I was crying the whole time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thankfully, she said yes. But I tell that story to say it could have been anyone's proposal. Yeah, yeah. And I had food brought in from her favorite restaurant. But by the time I got there, it was cold. And I didn't do what you did, Benny. So I messed up. And then when we walked around the corner, there was a white horse-drawn carriage that took us around the city. I'm dying. But then when we got, so then we were going back to her parents on the train to tell her parents what had happened.

1:11:38And I told them I was proposing that night. But we were going to hers and we got to her house and her parents opened the door and they looked at her and they were like, what did he do to you? Because she had hives all over her face because I didn't know she was allergic to horses and she didn't know either. And so that was the night we figured out that she was allergic to horses. That's amazing. And so that story reminded me that I did know her, but I didn't. That's actually the thought is what counts. Yeah, I was trying. I was trying really hard. No, it's so cute. But it's one of the, we've been together for 12 years and married for nine.

1:12:12So we're doing all right. But I look back on it and I look at how much of my life was just impacted by the world of love. And now knowing my wife as deeply as I do, I would do it completely differently. So I'm trying to convince her to renew our vows and our 10 years of marriage. And also because our friends have changed. Like we got married nearly 10 years ago now. We've moved country. Look at how much of your life. Yeah, so much has changed. And so I'm like the people I want to celebrate my. Did you even have the podcast then? No, no, no, nothing. No, no, no. When did you have the podcast? Podcast is six years old.

1:12:45Yeah. And wasn't she on like your first ever episode? She was my first episode. Yeah. My wife's my first episode. Yeah. For sure. So sweet. But yeah, we'll do it again. And I think it's a great reminder of just how much we evolve and mature in relationships and how it's okay to look back and go, hey, like, you know. It's a great story. Yeah. It's a fun story. It's a fun story. But, but yeah, no, I'm so happy to hear about how beautiful this proposal was. You nailed it, Benny. You just, you know, you're the man. I mean, it's beautiful to hear. And I mean, last time we were together, Benny, you were talking about wedding planning.

1:13:15How's that going? We have not even begun because I think for right now, there's just so much going on. I have to go and shoot a series for a while. And I don't know, we'll just see. We're not in any rush. And I'm excited to see what happens. I'm just happy you should say yes. I don't even care about the next time. No, but like we're honestly, we're so, we've been doing so much stuff. We haven't even gotten to really just like bask in the glory. So it's like, I think we're looking forward to doing that in New York a little bit. What does that look like for both of you? Just you two spending time together?

1:13:52Yeah, he's very good at like organizing and planning. And I'm very visual. So I'm like, this is what I like and this and this. And then he figures out how to. It'll be whatever. she's already told me the types of things she likes and wants for a wedding it'll be fun i love it you both obviously got back into the studio together recorded an amazing album i got to listen to bits of it it was uh it was an interesting process but i'll tell you about that offline but i got to listen to it and what i loved was i was surprised i i thought it was going to be about your relationship but it sounded that it was about a history of your life celine it felt like a history of love.

1:14:35But the interesting part is it actually has multiple different stories. Some of the songs are actually about his past relationship. So I think that it was really special because we were able to talk about those kind of emotions and feelings and not a lot of people maybe feel that comfortable doing that with a partner. But I don't know. We told each other all kinds of things like I would if I was in a session with someone I trusted. And so, yeah, you'd be surprised. I mean, of course, it's not all about, you know, rainbows and sunshine, but it's it's real. and I think these are all feelings people have felt before and that's what we really wanted is people to connect to the music.

1:15:25Whether you like it or not, we're just stoked that we got to make an album that we're proud. That's beautiful. I feel like the thing that's so cool about it is I've been fortunate enough to make a lot of songs in my day. And people come up to me all the time and they say, this song changed my life because I was going through the same thing. And sometimes it is what I wrote about. And sometimes they think the meaning is nothing of what I wrote about. But that's the best part about music, that it hits you. It's like music is one of the senses. It's like food. It's like there's certain things, certain smells, certain songs.

1:16:02They bring you back to a time immediately. Okay, like you're immediately transported. And it's so cool that everybody can be listening to the same song and have a completely different relationship with it. I feel like that's so cool. What was it like going from working together that first time to this time? Like what was different? What was different is I never allowed him in the room. I can kiss her now. And I just, I like to record alone. What's really different is I feel like we got to talk about stuff that she would never talk about as an artist if it wasn't with her partner being next to her.

1:16:40and honestly, I would take out, I would just write everything she said. Sometimes she'd wake up from a dream and she's like, I have this terrible dream and this is what it was and blah, blah, blah. I write it down, then it becomes a song. Wow. It was so cool being able to, I don't know, it was like therapy. Well, you were saying to me, when we spoke on the phone, I think it was last week, you were saying that there was just, it was like a safe space to be so open. You could say whatever you want. There's certain things you wouldn't be able to say if you were if I was just hey babe like I just want to she'd be like what's talking about but if somehow like when I'm playing chords while we're saying it it's like oh okay what a great story yeah and you can just talk about things and you're more open it's like a therapy session it's like it's a safe place and like it was cool to learn things about her that I don't know if I would have learned ever or as soon as I did did it bring you closer when making the album like what was it like being together but then making an album together and being together absolutely we were able to share things with each other and he would listen to my doubts and he would give me great notes and it was never criticizing it was always coming from a really gentle place and i do i think it absolutely has brought us closer but that's also time and spending it with him it's yeah also we got to spend so much more time together yeah like cause like our work days got to blend a little yeah it's a great excuse to spend time together yeah I'm always trying to find ways to work more with my wife I know I'm just trying to come up with new excuses I know that's all I want to do yeah yeah that's what I would do too and you had some amazing collabs as well on the album I mean obviously you've launched a song with Gracie and Gracie's amazing oh my god oh I'm so happy that she's she was just such a doll and so talented and you've known her, so I shouldn't say that since she was like 13, but I love her.

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1:19:17Listen to Health Discovered on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app, search Health Discovered, and start listening. Have you ever brought your magic to Walt Disney World like, hey, we came to play? Did you tip your tiara to a Creole princess or get goofy officially? Step up like a boss and save the day? Or see what life's like under the tree of life? Did you? If you could. Would you? When we come through, it's true magic. Because we came to play. Bring the magic at Walt Disney World Resort. Did you interview her yet? No, no, I haven't yet. You've been a fan for a while?

1:20:00I've known her since she was 14. Wow. So to see where, I put her on an album like five years ago. Wow. So like to see where she's gone is so cool. And you know, I'm always one who like loves new talent, new artist. And she's great. She has such a great point of view. Her writing comes from such a good place. I love people where it feels like they're like, and Selena does it too, where it feels like they're just kind of talking to you. And then you're like, oh, wait, I'm listening to a song. But like, what? You know? Yeah, it's just, you know, making the album with her, I felt like it taught me, I was just like, we're really good at communicating with each other and saying like, and setting boundaries and saying when we like something, when we don't like something.

1:20:42Yeah, how do you do that when you're in a relationship? You're like, I don't like the sound of that. Like that's awesome. Or both, I think it comes down to ego. And we both don't really have that. So if we disagree on something, it's like okay I agree to disagree like that's fine but yeah of course if I say I don't know if I like that he he most the time doesn't even question it and just just really receptive to my yeah we just don't have an ego so it doesn't matter he could say no I don't like it and I'd be like okay that's amazing what are you hoping that is there a song in there that you're really excited for fans to hear or anything specific I think I want people to hear the whole body of work and like I don't really think about music like that I make it for myself and luckily people happen to like some of it and we started this thing in our room and we recorded the whole album in the house and with our friends that's so intimate that's have you ever done that before not like this no yeah no no and it was like it kind of blurred reality a little it was the most fun I ever had.

1:21:49And I just like wanted a piece of music to be able to, I don't know, one day, show our kids and be like, look at this. Like, look at this thing mommy and daddy made. That's pretty amazing. And I can't believe it. It's so cool to me. I don't care what happens with it. I was just so excited to do this with the person I love and freeze a moment in time in a way that not a lot of people have the ability to do. And like, we had, we were lucky enough to do that. Yeah. Selena, you mentioned earlier, always wanting to be a mom and Penny, you just mentioned kids. Is that, are you both like big family, big, lots of kids?

1:22:29Yeah. I mean, I don't know what will happen obviously, but I, I, I love children. I mean, I have an 11 year old sister that I absolutely adore and I'm still doing wizards this, this far along because I love children. I love making them laugh. They're just so sweet. So absolutely when that day comes, I'm so excited for it. It's funny. We'll be at, we'll be at like a gathering or a party and not many people know this, but like Selena's like the ultimate level of shy, like the ultimate, ultimate, ultimate level of shy. Like couldn't. I don't know a lot of people. Sometimes I get shy. Couldn't be more of like an introvert shy, which is crazy because she's the biggest star in the world.

1:23:15And it's like, when she walks into a room, her main goal is to like disappear into the crowd. That's like her, her goal is to just like everyone. It's my mom is very similar. Her and my mom are very similar in there. You know, they're never going to, if there's a crowd of people, they're never going to like be like how like me or probably you would do where we're like, like we're talking, they're not going to do that. They're like, wait and say like one thing throughout the night that winds up being like the most poignant or funny thing of the night. But like, I'm going to have diarrhea of the mouth talking to everyone.

1:23:48And whenever there's kids at a place, it's the only time I see her do that. She immediately goes to the kids and like has these conversations for like hours with the kids. It's taking care with the kids. And I think it's also, I think it probably also has to do with like, when you started doing this, you were a kid and that was your way to connect to people. And I feel like you still feel like you have that obligation to connect with like young kids. Cause you made some, you shaped so many young people's lives, whether it was Barney, whether it was Wizards. And I feel like you're still finding your way to do that.

1:24:22And it's so crazy just to see, you know, cause she's transcended into so many different categories. It's so hard to call her like, you know, a pop star, this, an actress, that, you know, you don't know what to call her. There's so much multi-hyphenate. Yeah. You notice it sometimes when we see people, because you'll see a little girl come up to her cry. Then you'll see her older sister that's like 20. Then you'll see the mother and then the grandmother. So it's like she's hitting all these boxes in people's lives and touching so many people. And she's such a hermit that she doesn't even realize it all the time.

1:25:02And, you know, I'm always reminding her of like what she's doing and how special it is and how she's always been so, you know, outspoken will always say what's on her mind. And as always, you know, just, I just, I just feel like she's, there's not a lot of people who are like, just absolutely authentically themselves. And like, that's what draws me towards her more than anything else. She's always going to tell you how she's feeling. She's always going to be herself. She's never going to try to be somebody else. Well said. You know, I love it. Oh, Benny and Selena, I'm so grateful to you both for just opening your hearts, being so - Only with you.

1:25:46Huh? Only with you. Yeah. I can't believe you got her to say some of this stuff. She'd never say - I'm very, very - She would never say any of this. Is there anything you didn't say that you wanted to say? No, no. I mean that in a genuine way. I'm just really grateful that people like you exist because you bring so much joy to people and also understanding, you know, so many different ways of life and navigating that. And I think you're a great example. So I just would like to say thank you. I trust you with that information. And it's always a pleasure to be with you. So thanks for having us. No, you're both just so special.

1:26:32You've always been, I've always said, Selena, for years that, you know, and those moments where I could tell you were shy or wanting to disappear, but always being so gracious and kind to me and my wife whenever we were together and making us feel comfortable, even if you felt uncomfortable. and Benny, you know, just the wonderful conversations we've had over the last couple of years. And I feel like we've done everything. We've talked about so many different things and we are both kind of like that, you know, back and forth, back and forth kind of people. But you've both done the final five before on the show.

1:27:03So we wanted to do something different with you both. Okay. We wanted to play a little couples game. Oh. So I'm going to hand you these boards. Oh, I know exactly what this is. So you can take one each. They're fun. Fun questions. Fun questions. Okay. I'm not going to take what you just told me and turn it around. So we're going to do where we're going to, I'm going to ask you questions. You both have to write something down and then we'll reveal. So don't look at each other's answers. Question number one, if Benny would cook you anything in the world, Selena, what would he choose to cook for you?

1:27:35So both of you can write down. So Benny, if you're going to cook anything for Selena, what would it be? Oh, like, what do I think she wants the most? Yeah. because there's a few it's like four or five things I think I know what she's going to say it's a hard question it's a hard question no I think I know it should I write down three? no for anyone who doesn't know Benny is an insane connoisseur of food very good I think I know okay I don't think it's going to be the same thing it's okay that means you just that's okay there's more three, two, one oh I did steak I thought you were going to say that that's actually that's what I wrote That's what you Oh you did?

1:28:15Yes But I loved He makes this corn dip That I can just eat For breakfast Lunch and dinner But that's a good thing That there's more than one thing There's a lot That's a good thing Yeah that's amazing I love it Alright Selena if you would cook Anything for Benny What would you choose to cook? Okay Alright Oh my gosh What would I do? What is it now? What do I think You're going to say? I think you're going to say this Uh Uh, because I like, I got one. Uh, you got it, Benny already? Yeah, I think so. Okay. Okay. Three, two, one. Oh, corn. Okay, there we go. Corn pudding. Corn soup, like corn foot.

1:29:00Very aligned. I said order a pizza. You're doing good. This is great. Okay. This one's, this one's a bit more, I'm intrigued to see what comes out of this. It's not, it's not about how well you know each other. It's an interesting one. If your partner could master any skill instantly, what would it be?

1:29:21Selena's very confident. Everyone who's listening and not watching, it's like every time I ask a question, her pen hits the board immediately. All right. What do we have? Three, two, one. Everything. It's annoying to be able to sleep through the night. Yeah. That's what you would want. Yeah. No. I thought it was saying. If you could master a skill. Master a skill. Yes. I'm sorry. He'll put on a video game. He will be well. He'll play basketball. He does well. He'll do like pro tools and then he'll do like all this stuff. I feel like this is the skill she'd want to master. To be able to sleep through the night.

1:30:03Yeah. That's a real one. That's a lot of people are struggling. I cannot sleep. We've done a lot of episodes on sleep because that's a real challenge for a lot of people. Yeah. It's hard. Especially as we get older, you wake up in the middle of the night and yeah, not fun. All right. Okay. Okay. What's your partner's hidden talent that no one knows about? Okay. If I'm going to, I'm going to take this to Benny's level. What's her hidden talent?

1:30:34I don't even know if I spelled that right. That's okay. There's no spell check. But what's her hidden talent?

1:30:43I don't really have one at all. They're all too public. Oh, I know it. I know.

1:30:51This is crazy. This is funny. I'm just loving the honesty, guys. You guys are really going there. It's beautiful. We like to be honest. Yeah, no, but it's so refreshing. I'm dying to know it. It's great. Okay. Okay. three two one listen card on cue she knows every episode of friends by heart you and Radhi both wow she knows all of the lines every line and you could name what episode did this happen and I could tell you what season wow yeah wow it's crazy I never even watched the show one time before her yeah same as me and Radhi I didn't know my Radhi knows it really well and I'm like, I need to catch up.

1:31:38All right, that was good. I like that. What's both of you as perfect date night?

1:31:45How real am I allowed to be? Just to be like the worst at not wanting to do anything. Old married couple, I love it. Her idea of a perfect date night is like... Oh, I have so many, but this one's just pissed. Oh, Benny's planning. the date night in his head right now. Mine's really simple.

1:32:15I never write. It's so weird. Yeah, it's strange, isn't it? Yeah, we're always texting. You both got good handwriting for people who don't write, though. We're definitely not saying the same thing. Let's forget. His is going to be so nice and romantic, and mine is just... You guys literally You reminded me of me and Radhi with this. Okay. Yeah, it's so funny. All right. Three, two, one. Reveal. What's her say? Hot tub Benny's food on a couch. Romantic dinner with some small thoughtful gesture than something I can't write. I was trying to think of it. That's very sweet. I like both the answers.

1:32:55And you're right. They're both good date nights. All right. What is Benny like on a flight? Because Benny notoriously does not like - How would I know? She's never seen me on a flight. Have you never done? No. He does not fly. Oh, I thought you told me you must have done it once. I've done it, but not since we've been dating. Wow. Yeah, so that's a blank. Wow, I didn't know that. That's that one. Okay, give us a second. What do you think Benny will be like on a flight? I don't even know if I want to know because I would be so worried about him. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Was I supposed to write that? No, no, no.

1:33:30That's fine. Unless. No, for sure. It's a real, real photo. I just, I think it's a big fear of his. Yeah. And that's real. It's real. Makes sense. All right. Okay. A couple more. What's something your partner can do to make you laugh whenever you're in a mood? So even if you're in your worst mood, what can your partner do? Or what does your partner do that will always make you laugh?

1:33:53So far, Benny and Selena know each other very well. This is going really well. This is crazy. I like the commitment from both of you. Extremely competitive So Benny, as you're writing How did you used to get to New York To see Selena? Would you drive? What do you mean? I'm about to do it in a week You drive? Yeah From here to New York? Yeah I'd take the boat to Europe Okay So explain that journey to us Oh my god It's so long It's like First you have to drive to New York And then you get on a boat for eight days And you're on the Titanic That is amazing That is real commitment That's yours Alright Three, two, one Go for it Go on, read it, Selena It says, dance or rap or say a weird fact That has nothing to do with what we're talking about Wait, that's what you're going to That's what you do to make her laugh Oh, I did what I do to her to make her laugh Oh, no, no, I wanted what the other person does to you That's what you did, Selena, right?

1:34:49That's what Benny does Yes Yeah, Benny, because you rap as well You're a good rapper Oh, I did what I do to make her laugh Oh, go on, what did you do right there? I said I hug her and then get on top of her And then I do that little funny laugh That's true Okay wait What does Selena do That can make you laugh In any mood Whenever she wants She like Selena's proven to be The better listener right now So Okay wait So No no we'll skip it We've got a good answer I love it What do you do That makes me laugh In any mood Like whenever you're in any mood Like what can they do Like yeah like Radhi would burst out Into song and dance Like randomly It's like no Relevance to anything I think my existence Makes you laugh sometimes She'll make Like a Like she does like this Like little face and where she like puts her head down and like looks at me and she's like I can't even do it but she'll do that that'll make me laugh and you'll usually get on top of me and no but he actually this is really funny when I try to get somewhat like heated it's like he can't take me seriously so he'll smile and then I'll go from being like that's true whenever she starts to get like angry she's like no and I just laughed at her because it's so hard to take her seriously and then I laugh yeah that's true that's usually how I fight yeah Radhi hates it because whenever she gets angry I'm like you're so cute I know I'm like no so what are you doing I'm not cute she's like I'm not cute I love that that's awesome alright what's the one thing they can't live without apart from you so about your partner So Benny, you're writing about Selena Selena's writing about you What's one thing apart from you?

1:36:32This couldn't be easier

1:36:37Guaranteed What do you mean? Guaranteed Easiest answer I could have ever thought of That's the best question you could have ever asked me I'm 100 % right Something you can't Oh What? What? what is it? Three, two, one. Mom. Space heater. That's true. Explain the space here. Okay. So I, um, I have a very weird problem. It's not even a problem. It's just a me problem. I'm a very cold person. My temperature usually on my space heater is 90 and I let it go all over. and if I get hot, I just open the door and then close it again. It's so backwards. It's so weird. Temperatures are hard to... Everyone's got a different vibe.

1:37:32Trust me. Our office next door, the team's always arguing over what temperature the room's at. Some people want it really cold. Some people want it really hot. We have a system. She always wants it hot. I love it. Okay. What's something the other person is really competitive about? What are you competitive about? I'm really not a super competitive person. No, I don't know what she's... Tell me what you are. I don't think I'm... Selena's not competitive. Oh, I was going to say you are about games, but then you don't care anymore. Like you're competitive for like the first five minutes. No, that's true.

1:38:09And then I'm starting to think, oh, it's okay. Yeah, yeah. She's competitive for like five minutes. That's true. I love it. I love it. All right. So, okay. Last two questions. Okay. Actually, I'm going to go for the last one. because you both are big on this, I've heard from Benny, what's the other person's most memorable gift they got you? That he's given me, right? Yeah. So the most memorable one she gave me. Correct. Okay. Oh, there's so many, but... Yeah, the one, there's no right answer. I don't mind right after that. This is just the only one that I can think of, but there's so many. Yeah.

1:38:52oh sorry it's so bad you saw his no i didn't i just saw like a word i love the commitment i'm so impressed it's amazing you're the best that's like all right three two one who's gonna all right talk about it oh that was a good one okay explain go ahead this one is a picture from the set of will and grace i thought it was extremely thoughtful because that's one of my favorite shows and you can see it in the background of almost all the episodes no no i got her an actual piece of art that's in will and grace from the set yeah i got i knew the guy my my friend's brother wrote it and i got her for one of her birthday presents i got her an actual painting that's hung up in will and grace and when i gave it to her the day i gave it to her she was watching Will and Grace and it was on the TV.

1:39:45It was so cool. That's a great gift. And mine's a framed picture of our first text where we fell in love. Like the first one where we decided we were going to go out on that date. She framed it and like made this like cute. She like made like, like did all these designs. It's like macaroni and like glitter. It was so cute. That's a great gift. That was wonderful. Amazing. Selena and Benny You are Truly Two of the most special people I'm so glad you found each other Thank you And I am always rooting for you guys I'm forever in your corner In every possible way I love you both deeply And know that I'm always Rooting for your love Thank you so much Yeah genuinely so grateful for you Do you want me to get you Out of these boards Are you writing more?

1:40:30What are you writing? Come on I expected a heart Or like a hug Or some sort of emoji I would have bought now I know what I'm getting you for your birthday he's obsessed with these things thank you I love it you can take them home well we love you thank you for having us thank you so much I hope that allowed you to share everything you wanted to say I felt so good I love it easy we did it thanks guys you guys are so fun how was that if you love this episode you'll really enjoy my episode with Selena Gomez on befriending your inner critic and how to speak to yourself with more compassion. My fears are only going to continue to show me what I'm capable of.

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From the publisher

How did Selena and Benny first meet?

What makes their love story unique?

On today’s episode of On Purpose, Jay sits down with global superstar Selena Gomez and acclaimed music producer Benny Blanco where they share their love story like they never have before. They open up about their personal journey—one that didn’t start with an immediate spark.

Their story is full of humor, mixed signals, and that moment when it all clicked. Benny once thought Selena didn’t like him, while Selena, protecting her heart, kept her distance. But as their friendship grew, they built something real—a relationship rooted in trust, respect, open communication, and always supporting each other. Their story is a true testament that love unfolds when the timing is right.

Together, Jay, Selena, and Benny reflect on the power of embracing love, letting go of past fears, and choosing a partner who helps you grow. Their journey serves as a beautiful reminder that love often comes when you least expect it—but when it’s right, you’ll know.

In this interview, you'll learn:

How to Build a Strong Friendship Before Dating

How to Communicate Openly in a Relationship

How to Maintain Trust in a Long-Distance Relationship

How to Support Your Partner’s Emotional Needs

How to Balance a Busy Career with a Healthy Relationship

Selena and Benny’s story reminds us that true love isn’t defined by grand gestures or perfection—it’s about finding someone who sees you for who you are, supports you through life’s challenges, and makes even the simplest moments feel special.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

01:10 Male Friendships Can Be Challenging

03:01 First Meeting & Deep Conversations

08:48 How It All Started

16:32 Opening Up to Love Again

18:57 It All Happens for a Reason

21:08 Finding Genuine Love

27:13 Be Kind to Yourself

33:37 Don’t Let Negativity Dictate Your Life

37:55 Cultivating Relationships with Trust

48:22 This is How Emotionally Mature Relationships Work      

57:08 The Proposal 

01:05:29 Wedding Planning

01:06:26 Recording an Album Together

01:13:17 Future Family Plans

01:18:03 Selena and Benny on Fun Questions

Episode Resources:

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Selena Gomez | Twitter

Selena Gomez | Instagram

Selena Gomez | YouTube

Benny Blanco | TikTok

Benny Blanco | Instagram

Benny Blanco | YouTube

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Benny Blanco | Facebook

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