Why Your Self Worth is Keeping You Stuck & How to Stop Sabotaging Your Personal Growth With Jamie Kern Lima

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30:10Yeah, she's adorable as well. So I was like, I'll take it. I'll take it. She's so cute. And she's so, she's really shy. And she just walks right up to you and calls you dad. I'm like, what's happening right now? So funny. I love it. I remember my husband, Paula, comes on. I'm like, Paula, I promise you don't worry. She's so cute. And it's like to think, I love that question because I think it's really practical for everyone listening and watching right now to ask yourself, what does it already cost you? And what is it going to cost you? That memory with your child, that potential job that fulfills your dream, that great memory with friends, that whatever it may be, like we're all missing out on something because of that.

30:47And that is such a great, just that one question. Just that question. Is a great way to rethink it. And I know we're going to dive into some of the lies. This whole book, when, oh my gosh, Jay, this is the thing when you ask yourself, what does self-doubt already cost you in your life? Right? And then you look at it from that perspective. And a lot of us, we spend so much time building skill sets and this, and those are important. You know, you and I always talk about, it's important to put in the reps and get the experience and all the things. but also learning how to unlearn the lies that lead to self-doubt.

31:21Oh my gosh. Because again, our self-worth is our ceiling. And so just, it's so powerful. Yeah. And we've had that doubting voice, whether it's come through teachers, family members, whether it's come through your friend at school, whatever it was, we've all adopted doubting voices over time. And now we replay them to ourselves in our own voice. and we think they're us when in fact they've just been conditioned and trained. Yes. And self-doubt will kill more dreams than almost anything else. Like literally. And it is a lie, right? And self-doubt lives in our head. It's our thoughts, but it is not you.

32:01It is not you. And it's like our knowing, our truth, our worthiness. I feel like it's in our soul. It's innate. I remember a moment, Jay, where my whole life, I, as a little girl, I would sit there home alone and I'd watch Oprah and she was like my hero, right? And I dreamed of meeting her one day. So for everyone listening, maybe you had a, like a, maybe your hero was Superman or like, we all have different, I dreamed of meeting her. I'd watch her and I'm like, one day I'm going to host a show and share other people's stories with the world. And she was just my hero my whole life. And I remember this moment as a little girl where I'm like, I'm going to meet her.

32:36I just had this knowing I'm going to meet her, which made no sense. I'm in the middle of a suburb of Washington state. I'm like, I'm going to meet her. I just knew it. And I dared to believe it was going to happen. I dared. I prayed it would happen. Fast forward 39 years and I had a chance to meet her at an event, which is the long story I went going to. It was amazing. And then after it went by so fast, I wrote her a letter after and sent it to her chief of staff, which is one in a billion that she would read, that the chief of staff would read it. Amy was her name. Then one in a billion, she would share it.

33:08Then one in a billion, Oprah would read it. All those things happened. And Oprah invited me to her house for lunch. And I'm sharing this because everyone listening, I think is going to have an aha in their own life with how we handle and how we sabotage things we don't believe we're worthy of. And now this was my dream my whole life. and I went to her house for lunch, which is like, what in the world, right? And we had a three-hour lunch, just me and her. At the very end, this is my lifelong dream. At the very end of it, she gave me her cell phone number and she said, call me anytime. You can call me anytime.

33:46And Jay, in this moment in my life, and I just want everyone to put themselves in these shoes because we all do this. I was really confident. I did not know there was a big difference between self-confidence and self-worth. And everything was going right in my life, right? Like I just sold a cosmetics for all the money, like the Forbes list, all these things. And I was really confident. And the day she gave me her number, I did not call her for four years. Literally didn't call her for four years. And in that four year stretch, I told myself stories that I thought were true. Like, oh, I just need to have the perfect thing to say.

34:23Then I'm going to call her. Or I bet everyone wants something from her. I'm going to prove I don't need anything. I'm not, you know, I tell myself. And literally four years later, it hit me like this light bulb that burst where I was like, the real reason I have not called her was because deep down inside, I didn't believe I was worthy of being her friend. And this is what self-worth, low self-worth will do to you. You can have a lot of confidence. You could be crushing it everywhere, but you sabotage an opportunity. You sabotage your marriage. You sabotage a friendship. It shows up in different areas.

34:59And that was the day you reminded me of the story because we were talking about our thoughts and our self-doubt. That was the day when this happened and I realized it. I literally, I imagined myself turning down the dial, like almost like a volume dial and of a radio of my thoughts and my self-doubt that says you are not worthy of being her friend. and I imagine like turning up the volume on my soul, like my knowing, because I am a kick-ass friend. I know I am worthy of being her or anyone. I am such a good friend and I know that. And I remember turning the volume up on that knowing and that was the moment I called her.

35:38When I learned to turn down the volume on the lies that tell us we are not enough and unworthy and like tune into our soul and to our knowing and that was the day I called her. At first I called her, she did not answer. I was like, oh my gosh, four years. And she didn't answer. But then I called again and she did. And that was the day I became obsessed with studying self-worth because I realized, oh my gosh, while self-confidence is so important, while I've worked so hard and I'm so proud and I believe we always need to be building self-confidence and growing and contributing to something bigger than ourselves to feel fulfillment, all of those things are multiplied by our level of self-worth.

36:17and anything times zero is zero. So if we do not feel we are enough deep down, it is why we will be perpetually unfulfilled no matter how much we achieve. And what is the point of all of it if we are unfulfilled and don't enjoy it? And so became obsessed with studying self-worth. And I just think about how, you know, I taught a course with her this last year and now it's, and it almost didn't happen. And when I think about what does self-doubt already cost you? Like for everyone listening and watching us right now, what hasn't happened? What, like I almost so many times, Jay, doubted myself out of my own destiny.

36:55Right. And like, this is why building self-worth is so important. I'm a little passionate about, about Worthy, the book. Yeah, a little passionate. I love it. No, but you, you have a chapter in here called change your relationship with rejection. Yes. And I think what's really interesting about that is that rejection is a reminder that we don't have self-worth, right? That's the root of why it hurts so much is because when someone rejects us, it reminds us of how we've been rejecting ourself time and time and time and time again. We haven't showed up for ourself. We haven't lived our authentic self.

37:34We have rejected ourself. And so when someone rejects that part of us, it causes so much pain. So when you're telling us to change your relationship with rejection, how does one even start? Because I think whether someone's trying to become an actor, whether someone's trying to get a job, whether someone's trying to find a partner, rejection is almost the path. Yes. But we don't always see it that way. Yes. And I love what you just said, which is so insightful. every single time we show up inauthentically too, every time we're not who we are, every time we show up as our representative in a room or the people pleaser and we say yes when we mean no, or any time we show up as someone who we think other people want us to be, but not as who we are, we are telling ourselves we are unworthy of being who we are.

38:26And we slowly but surely chip away at our self-worth. There's a whole chapter in here called, you're not crazy, you're dispersed. and it's all about the power and the data behind it of, oh my gosh, about how so often the things that we think are wrong or odd or quirky or off or different or strange or wrong about us are actually the things that are most right about us. And literally I built a billion dollar business figuring this out. This tastes like freedom. When you embrace this, this tastes like freedom. I'm so excited for everyone to read that chapter. And also the one you're talking about, when you change your relationship with rejection, you change your life.

39:02And exactly what you said. So again, so a lot of us associate so much pain with getting rejected or failing, right? That will stay stuck. And to your point, it can hit deeper. So here's the thing, whether we've been rejecting ourselves by not showing up authentically, or a lot of us are unaware of past rejections or failures. And when we build self-worth, what's beautiful is rejections and failures, they just shake our confidence for a bit, but they cannot touch our self-worth. But for a lot of us, we've had past rejections or failures that yes, have hurt our confidence, but we've let them take root at an identity level.

39:43And we've started to believe we're a failure or we're a reject. And that is when they crush your self-worth. And so I go into a four-part framework called the four R's in this chapter. And it is, oh my gosh, this might be my favorite chapter because this was almost its own book. When you change your relationship with rejection, you change your life. I did not want to wait two and a half more years to put it out, which as you know, as an author, you have to wait. I'm like, no, people leave this now. So it's now chapter two in the book. But here's the thing. when I was building at Cosmetics, what a lot of people don't know, they just kind of read the press headline.

40:20Oh, Denny's Waitress builds billion dollar company. But it was hundreds and hundreds of rejections along the way. It was so many people that I just love. And I used to save my Denny's tip money to buy a lipstick at Sephora and in the departments, like I love shopping there. And all of a sudden they're telling me, no, that my idea is not going to work. the brand's not going to, and this was no after no, after no, after no. And from the point I launched this business in my living room, it was three years before I could even afford to pay myself a penny, but then hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of no's.

40:54And here's the thing, a lot of people, maybe they know it cosmetics today and they see it at Sephora or at Ulta Beauty or at, you know, in the department stores on QVC. Uh, and they don't realize it was actually years of all of them saying no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And Jade, sometimes it wasn't just no. And it was like, no, come back later. It was like, no, like some of the no's were so painful. I would cry myself to sleep under the covers. And most of us have so much pain attached to rejection that we give up after one no or five no's, or we start to think that someone else's rejection or no, or disbelief in us or whatever it might be is some indication of our potential or some indication of our idea or our dream or our talent.

41:43And it is not, it is not. And so what I, what I, um, my intention behind this chapter was, I was like, okay, let me break down at a granular level. What are the tools on how to reframe rejection so that you actually to embrace it in a way where you become fearless over it. And I break down the four R's, which is how I went from, you know, going through hundreds of rejections and literally not letting them take root, literally deciding like, oh, you know, this is no indication if my business is going to make it, if my idea is right. And there was one moment after this really painful rejection from QVC.

42:22and I knew in my knowing, right? We talk about our knowing. In my knowing, Jay, I knew like I'm supposed to be doing this. And every time I'd pray or get still, I just felt this knowing like I'm supposed to be doing it. But everyone around me was telling me no. Potential investors were telling me no. All these retailers were telling me no. And two things for anyone who needs this today, what I realized is, okay, I'm getting all these no's, but when I get still, and for some people that's meditation, for some people that's prayer, When I get still and I pray, I will hear a knowing. And every one of us has a knowing.

42:57And your knowing is more powerful than anyone else's advice. And in this case, I had this journey of all these no's. And I had my knowing. And I believe which one you listen to, do you listen to the no's? And sometimes our thoughts, we're the ones telling ourselves the most painful no's. Or do you listen to your knowing, right? And whether you listen to the no's or the knowing, I think your life, your business, your relationships can come down to which one you listen to. But when we're in the journey of understanding that, the no's can be really painful. So there was one particular moment I was crying under my covers from another rejection from QVC.

43:34And I started Googling every thought leader, every person who has helped move humanity forward, every person in business who's ever built incredible things. Every single one of them has faced countless rejections, countless failures, There's countless setbacks. They're just the brave ones willing to keep going anyways. And what I realized in that moment was every time I had been getting a no up till then, the first thought I'd have is, yet there's proof I'm not enough, right? And so, and why that's important is for everyone listening, if you imagine yourself getting rejected or imagine yourself putting yourself out there, telling the person you want to be more than just friends or putting an idea on social media or going for the business or applying for the job and you imagine yourself getting rejected or failure or failing at it, think about the first thought you think.

44:25Like for me, most of my whole life, it was, yep, I'm not enough proof. I'm not. For a lot of us, that first thought is so painful. And by the way, that first thought is actually your current definition of rejection or failure. That is the meaning, whether you know it or not, that you're assigning to rejection or failure. and that meaning for so many of us is so painful that it will keep us stuck. We will quit. We will give up, right? And so for me, my whole life, it was, oh yeah, there's proof I'm not enough. And in this single moment, crying under the covers, then Googling all these people and realizing, wow, they've all had a million rejections.

45:02They're just the brave ones willing to keep going anyways. And that day I wrote down, rejection does not mean I'm not enough. Rejection means I'm one of the brave ones. Like it's a victory. I'm one of the brave ones willing to keep going for it anyway. I am not one of the ones sitting on the sidelines in regret, right? No, I'm one of the brave ones. And so I reframed it. And then every time I got another no, I committed, right? Because right away I would think, oh yeah, proof I'm not enough. Like, no, no, no, no. I'd intercept that thought, replace it with this new definition. Like this is a victory.

45:36It means I'm one of the brave ones willing to go for it. And I believe that to be true. And so this four part R framework is to reveal your current definition of rejection, which we all did, right? The first thought you have when you get rejected or failure, that's actually your current definition. And for a lot of us, it's real painful. When I ask groups of people this, it's like, I shouldn't have even tried. I'm a loser. I'm stupid. Why'd I go for it? That's your current definition. I knew it wasn't meant to happen. Exactly. And so then when you redefine it, which is what I started to do in that moment where I wrote out, oh, rejection doesn't mean I'm not enough.

46:11It means I'm one of the brave ones willing to go for it. And then I started building a toolbox in my life of new definitions. So another one I love is rejection is God's protection, right? Rejection is the universe's protection. Rejection means I'm one step closer to that. Yes. Rejection is I'm putting in the reps. I'm getting strong enough to carry the weight of my success when it does happen. Rejection means like, okay, I'm excited for what's coming because this is not happening to me. It's happening for me. And I cannot wait to, right. So when, so I go through in the book, how you do this and build this new set of definitions that you're committed to.

46:52And then the third R is my favorite and it is called revisit. And this is the one that will change everything. It's going to be really emotional for everyone likely who does it. But Jay, a lot of us have past rejections or failures. The person that broke our heart, the person that we wanted it to work out so bad and it didn't, or the job we wanted so bad and they didn't see our value and we don't know why, or the partner who betrayed us or the friend that pulled the rug out from underneath you, or the new friend that did not invite you to the party and you don't know why. And the third R is revisit.

47:29And this is where you go to rejections that have happened that you've let take root into your identity and convinced you you're somehow a rejecter, you're somehow a failure. And then you apply these first two steps to them. You reveal what your meaning is you're giving to them. And then you redefine them. And this is like, oh, my gosh, so many of us are letting past rejections and failures stick to us. like labels that we think are permanent, that are like lead balloons on our wings when we're trying to fly and we're trying to soar, but we're holding ourselves down. And I have done this with so many things in my life.

48:09And it has been huge because two quick things. I'm so excited. But I was adopted and I was raised by parents who, oh my gosh, I feel so blessed, but they worked a lot. And I was always home alone watching Oprah in my living room. But all growing up and later in life, I found out I was adopted. And I always had this, told myself this story that, or I always felt abandoned or unwanted. And the way that that came out in my life, oh my gosh, like I would stay in toxic relationships because I didn't want to abandon the person. Later on when I'm crushing it in business and have over a thousand employees in my company, I would not fire employees soon enough when like they really, really deserved it because I didn't want to abandon them.

48:54And I went through this process in the book and I realized the meaning I was giving to being adopted, the meaning I was giving to growing up alone a lot. And I realized, okay, I can tell myself that story or I can actually redefine it in a way I know is true. And I just decided, okay, you know what? My birth mom and dad were together one time ever. Like God chose me to be conceived. And then my birth mom's life would have been so much easier if she did not have me. But she chose to bring me in the world. And my parents chose to raise me. I'm like, I'm not unwanted. I'm chosen. And like, I believe that to be true.

49:33And it has shifted how I show up in friendships. It has shifted how I believe I'm worthy of friendships. And my all-time favorite, just in case someone needs this today, because I think so many of us have been hurt by other people, have been hurt, people have not loved us the way we need, or we're just hurt because we feel like we're not included or a friend doesn't see our value or we're trying so hard to put ourselves out there and it's not working. I will tell myself this definition, and this is for someone who needs this today. I feel it in my soul. I will literally imagine God saying to me, oh, you weren't rejected.

50:11I hid your value from them because they're not assigned to your destiny. And I will believe it. And even to this day, it helps me like let rejections roll right off me. Like if I'm not invited to a party, Jay, the old me wants to think I'm not enough. And right away, I'm like, oh, okay, God's blocking my value from that person because I don't know why, but they're not assigned to my destiny. And I'm going to trust it. I'm going to believe it. And it helps me not let these things take root in my identity. and it helps me just like break free from them. And so I go through the whole four part framework of how to do this.

50:47But I can tell you, it's almost never an accident when someone has been able to create or build or succeed in something. And while I have made so many mistakes and I have a lot of issues in my life right now, fear of rejection and failure is not one of them. It is literally one of the tools on how I endured hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of rejections. And then, Jay, like what's so kind of cool, this is cool, is just because I know someone needs to hear this today, that someone else's doubt about you is no indication. It's no indication of your potential, of if your dream is going to work, of if your idea is going to work, if you're going to make it, if your business is going to succeed.

51:26And I look back and every single person that told me no along the journey of building a cosmetics. And sometimes it was years, even after we built the number one brand in QVC, number one beauty brand in their history, after they said no for years, even after that, I think it was like, I don't know how many more years before Sephora finally said yes. It was no after no forever. And every single one of those no's turned into a yes. Every single one of them. And it's just like, I don't know who needs to hear this. But if you have a knowing, if you have a knowing that you are supposed to be doing what you're doing, whether it's putting your art or your talent out there in the world or going for that job or launching that business, like other people's no's cannot compete with your knowing.

52:14And you've got to trust your knowing. The second you start trusting all those other no's or the no's that get in your head, that will take you down all day long. Right? It will. But that rejection, those no's are no indication of your potential. And so it was just really important for me to go through. It's really like a masterclass in Worthy on how do you reframe rejection and learn to believe it so it does not have power over you and it doesn't take root in your self-worth and it doesn't hold you back. So I hope I can't wait for it to hear how this blesses people. And I want them to share this.

52:46First of all, anyone listening, share this episode with someone who's like, oh, my gosh, if they knew how to like reframe and know or reframe rejection. but then then post and tag Jay and tell him how this is impacting your life because this is um yeah it just tastes like freedom and it's all a lie you know that someone else's rejection impacts our potential that is a lie that is a lie and when we learn not to believe it it's just it's freedom you can see the freedom on your face and I want everyone to know just so that you know some of the other lies that I think you'll love to read when you get the book lie I don't have anything special to offer you're going to love that chapter another lie I need to please them to love me that's going to be another lie that chapter is going to blow your mind and there are so many other phenomenal insights tools Jamie has just shared a tip of the iceberg version of some of the amazing tools that are inside this book and Jamie I want to ask you one last question that I'm sitting with as I'm looking at your beautiful cover.

53:48I'm witnessing you like a rocket ship flying off of this seat. And which lie are you still trying to unlearn? Which lie am I still trying to unlearn? I think every single day I work to unlearn them. The one I will say that feels the best to be unlearning right now, I mentioned it a little bit earlier, but didn't go into it. And maybe this is exactly for someone right now. It's so funny. I'm not even thinking about you and me. I'm thinking about the person listening who is just going to break free with this. That's why I'm getting so excited. But my whole life, Jay, for anyone who has felt like they're a little odd or different, or maybe they don't quite fit in with their family, or they're like the one that likes to read books when no one else does, or they're the one that, you know, I used to podcast.

54:41Yes, listen to podcasts or has big dreams. I always felt like I had to kind of change who I was to fit in and that who I was, if I was fully me, I would not belong. And I always kind of felt like that. And it always felt a little bit different. And I remember growing up, I would have these big wild ideas about, you know, things that could impact the world. And, and, and again, I have loving, blessed, loving family. But I would often hear things like things like that don't happen to people like us or, you know, things like that. Right. And and and and I remember and I'd always hear like, you're crazy, you're crazy.

55:22And it was a term of endearment. But, you know, you're crazy. Who do you think you are? And I just got really good at dimming my own light to make everyone comfortable. I got really good at people pleasing. And in my 20s, I was the first person in my five families that I'm aware of to go to therapy. No one had ever gone to therapy that I am aware of. And I remember flat out asking my therapist, I said, you know, am I crazy? Like my family's always said these words as terms of endearment, but like, I feel like I'm very different and I don't fit in. And I asked her and she said, you're not crazy, but I'm really glad you're here.

56:00And she explained to me that when you are the first in your family or your peer group or the people you were raised around or your colleagues, when you're the first to actually be brave enough to be who you authentically are and be willing to think different or love different or vote different or create different, right? That you will, it often comes with feeling othered or feeling like you don't quite fit in or you don't quite belong because you are the first ever you. And I remember this moment that hit me like a light bulb, like so bright it burst when I realized I'm not crazy. I'm just first.

56:41I'm not crazy. I'm just first. I'm the first ever me. And every person listening to you and me right now, like you are the first ever you. And if you are one of the brave ones willing to show up in this life as who you truly authentically are, you are first. There has never been another you before. There will never be another you again. Like no one in this world has your unique fingerprints or tongue print or iris of your eyes, or we all have a unique heartbeat. But also if you think about this, right, for everyone listening, no one else has, you know, the experiences you've had and the emotions that you feel or sees art or beauty in the world the way you do.

57:22And so when you show up authentically as who you are, do not be surprised if not everyone gets it. Like they've never seen another you before, right? There's no social proof that your idea is going to work if you're doing it authentically, because it's never been done before. And when we talk about that lie about, oh, I have nothing special to offer. Okay. I walked into a beauty industry with tens of thousands of brands and I launched a concealer, then a foundation. That has been done a million times before, but guess what? I dared to do it authentic to me, right? And that has never been done before.

57:59And so for every person listening who thinks someone's done my idea, someone's done it better than me, someone's done it smarter than me, that is a lie. Because when you are willing to be the brave one and show up as who you authentically are, you cannot prove me wrong. It has never been done before. Your idea has never been done before the way you're going to do it. And that is why it is your superpower to be fully authentically you, because we think, oh, those things are wrong. If they found out who I really am, if it, you know, oh, ah, the second you are not you, there's an automatic barrier of disconnection between you and customers, you and a potential partner, you and friends.

58:37When you are who you fully are, even the quirks and all, that is your superpower. You are not crazy. You are just first. And, and, and that has been, I think the, of all the lies, that is the one that is the most freeing. It is the most liberating. It has brought me so, so much closer in my friendships, right? And, and walking into this room with you, Jay Shetty, a friend who I love and adore. If I am thinking about, oh, I need to be a great guest and say the right things. And I do, there's now a barrier of disconnection between me and you, between me and every single person listening and watching right now.

59:17And there's probably a billion things I've said that I could do such a better job at, but guess what? I said I'm fully me. I was jumping out of my chair because that is full, but this is how people connect. And so every person listening who feels like they have to be something slightly other than who they are. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. You are not crazy or odd or different. You're first, right? And the last thing I'll say to that, Jay, when I finally got one shot on QVC after years of them telling me no, and we sold out in 10 minutes, which is a wild story. And then I eventually did over a thousand live shows, right?

59:55We were selling over$200 million in product a year. Just me to a camera on QVC. I mean, the whole thing was wild. But I sat in that green room for over eight years, over a thousand shows, and I met tens of thousands of entrepreneurs, of brand founders, of celebrities, of people that came in to sell their product on air. One out of every, I don't know, thousand ever come back because it is so hard to hit the sales numbers because you're live on air and they know by the second if you're hitting sales numbers. And I remember watching this, and this is for everyone listening right now. I remember watching over an eight-year window going, what is that commonality with the very few who make it?

1:00:34What is that? The very few who get, you know, who hit numbers, get invited back another time and eventually build something that lasts. What is that commonality? And I would just watch, watch tens of thousands of, from every, the biggest brands in the world, the most famous people in the world, the greatest founders. And literally it was not who had the best product. It was not who is the most famous. It was not who's giving the best discount or deal of the day. None of that. It was not who's the most seasoned salesperson or television professional. The only thing they had in common, the very few who made it, was that they are the same on air when they are talking to customers and selling their product as they are off air in the green room.

1:01:17And it did not matter if they're extroverted or introverted, if they're quirky and out there and big personality or like really quiet and very like meticulous. It didn't matter. It's the ones that were the exact same because you cannot fake authenticity and customers and people sense it and feel it, whether it's your online community or it's the people buying your product, it doesn't matter. And when I watch that, I'm like, this is the most freeing thing ever because it takes all the pressure off of feeling like you got to be something you're not or you got to show up as your representative. and I saw proof before my eyes in the form of literally success, of conversion to sales, of people trusting that person, like right before my eyes, year after year after year, that it does not matter how you show up.

1:02:07You just have to be authentic. Like that's it. And how few people are. And what I realized, the last thing I'll say is that, that I realized this lesson that I try to live by every single day, because I think this applies to every area of our lives, that while authenticity alone does not automatically guarantee success, inauthenticity guarantees failure. Every time, over time, in every area of our life. But when we embrace that, it's just all the pressure comes off and it just tastes like freedom. It feels like joy. it's when we live in alignment with our assignment Jamie I want to thank you for revealing and releasing so many of the lies I have within me during this conversation too I really felt that sitting here and consuming and deeply immersing myself in what you were saying there were so many wonderful releases that happened just in that process and I'm sure that I'm not the only one and so if you've been listening or watching i'd love for you to grab a copy of jamie's book worthy how to believe you are enough and transform your life simple steps life-changing results the book is available now the link is available in the caption below please go and grab a copy of this book you're gonna love it and i said earlier jamie is donating a hundred percent of her author proceeds for worthy as well and so you'll also be supporting a good cause jamie thank you for coming onto On Purpose today.

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