Wiz Khalifa: How to Build Your Schedule to Make You Happy & Strategize Your Life 5 Years in Advance

32:39Yeah. Do you remember any of those trips, certain places you went to where something crazy happened that you caught on camera? Man, it's all on camera. It's all there, yeah, yeah. So you can see it. Anyone that stands out to you? Yeah. I mean, I think like there's really classic episodes. There's like an Australian tour with me and A$AP Rocky. You see me and J. Cole in his early days. You see me and Currency in our early days. You see a lot of artists. You see me and Kendrick in his early days. You see me with Nipsey Hussle. Yeah, you see the whole community of people who we really came up with who are like OGs in the game now, but there's really classic footage of us when we all just started out.

33:24Mac Miller A lot of people Everybody man Everybody who you listen to now Was in those day to days Like originally How did you guys all meet each other back then? Like how did you connect? Yeah Because I guess there was no Instagram DM Maybe there was Maybe there was No we would connect through Twitter Right Yeah Twitter was the vibe back then There was no IG We weren't like DMing each other on there But we would connect through Twitter And clothing If anybody needed clothes or weed Like we would all hit up the same peoples for clothes, weed, and, you know, just vibes and stuff like that. And we just all clicked.

34:01And as we started to like take off on different levels, we would just bring each other with us based off of who we, you know, not really liked the most, but who we were closest knit with at the time or who it made the most sense with. Yeah. What's it like watching Kendrick then and Kendrick now? It's really dope watching Kendrick then and then now because we all came up together. So we were all doing the same things. We were all speaking to the same crowd and we were at different levels in our career. And I just remember performance wise, Kendrick would kind of like scream on stage. Like he didn't sound like he did on the record, but now he's like one of the best performers.

34:43And he's like one of the, you know what I'm saying? And the guy's really carrying it for our generation. So to see him, like, just jump up levels and levels and levels through, like, hard work and branding and, you know, just being around the right people at the right times, bringing people along with him like Baby King and all of them, like, you know what I'm saying? He's just really doing every move to the T of how you're supposed to do it. And has J. Cole evolved as well? Cole is the same thing. It's like, you know, we all started out just the homies, like, trying to get a verse on each other's tapes.

35:19And now dudes are, like, elite rappers up there. You know what I'm saying? And it's, like, it's cool to see him have his own festival. It's cool to see, like, he doesn't have to do as much work throughout the year. But when he does drop, people pay attention how they're supposed to. He does great tours. and like as a performance artist and as a substance artist, I feel like he has a type of career like that's all you can ask for. Yeah. That's powerful. Where does it feel like? You were saying there like in some ways things have changed. Like what's changed for up and coming artists today? Like what are they doing right?

35:59What are they doing wrong? How would you advise someone? If you were starting out from scratch today again, how would you approach your career differently or in the same way? I think that there's levels to it. I think that a lot of people aim for like the surface level where it's like you get one or two things and you're good and that's what takes you to the top. But usually that works against you because you'll have that spike, but then you'll go back down and you'll have to go back up again. It's really difficult to have that spike and to have that feeling of validation and like, oh, yeah, everybody's with me, blah, blah, blah.

36:37and then boom, they're not with you. And then you got to try to do something to get them back on your team. So, you know, a lot of people are going to want to go that route, but it has a lot of negatives that come with it on the back end. And it's a really good time for artists to, you know, cultivate a real fan base, whether it be in front of people's eyes or whether it be behind the scenes. It's a really great time to cultivate a fan base of people that understand you, understand your slang and how you dress and what your lifestyle is about and really push that to the forefront let that slowly build and eventually whether it's a year two years three years or five years you know you're always making a little bit of progress here here there and wherever you land at you're going to permanently be there yeah yeah there's a lot of people today who get told you've only got 12 months you had your hit you've got 12 months to make as much money off of you as possible like a lot of people hear that like hey look your career is not going to be that long let's make the most we can what would you say to someone who feels that fear themselves or gets told that like hey look you had one hit let's just you know crush this peak if somebody tells you that you better get some drugs and start selling them use that money flip it nah get some real estate because if I mean like somebody who only has a year plan in you and they're like yo you're only going to be here for this amount of time they're going to move on they're going to find other artists or you know different people to represent and you're going to be asked out like so any artist or any personality who somebody is already talking about like the the limit of the the lifespan of their career they should definitely be worried and not try to race to you know do the most in that amount of time but to try to figure out how to extend that lifespan so let's take what that person just told you and let's try to figure out you know what what the next five years looks like instead of the you know next 12 months yeah that's good advice yeah definitely how far into the future do you look when you're planning music work life i always try to look at least five or ten years in advance yeah how different is where you are today from where you looked at where you'd be five to ten years ago i'm doing way better business wise than i've ever done not just making money but managing money and i feel like i'm getting better and better at that and you know that's what's going to take me you know into the into the future as well is uh not only just you know the making of the money but the money management what have been your best moves in money management or business that you think people could learn from my best moves in business is just um being accountable for everything um i think in rap music, we get so caught up on the lifestyle.

39:54And we're like, I have to have this. Or if it's a new truck, I'm buying that. But me, I'm more like, I'm only going to spend this much on clothes this month. If I want a new car, I'm going to wait a year and a half until I get it. You know what I mean? Or I'm going to move money from this account to spend on this. So this is here and that's there and, you know, we can still pay for tour and, you know, how much are we spending on tour? How much are we making off a tour? How much comes in off of merch on top of the other businesses and things like that. But really the money management, like the everyday type of spending where it's like, you know, you could get carried away buying too many clothes or, you know, getting too many nice rooms or you know what I mean and and I I have a lot of luxuries that come with my life but I could also do without a lot of that stuff too so the unnecessary stuff and knowing what the stuff that it's not really needed paying attention to that not letting just those things just slip through the cracks because they all add up and shit so I think just being way more conscious of that type of stuff.

41:09Yeah. Did you learn that the hard way because you were overspending or did you learn that because you saw other people before you were overspending? Luckily, I didn't get to a point where I overspent or overspent. I just received large ass amounts of money. And with that comes advice. And, you know, so it's like yearly or quarterly, you know, we need to have these conversations where it's like, this is what the money looks like. We had to spend for this because of that. Or, you know, you had a little bit of fun spending this. So let's just bring it back on this, this, that, and the other thing.

41:48And just throughout time of having those conversations, you start to figure out where the unnecessary spending and the problems come from. Or even if you start to create little different issues, you'd be like, okay, this isn't really working in our favor. So we need to wiggle out of this. And, you know, even if it's spending this big chunk over here, that's going to take away from the continuous spending that's kind of like bleeding and taking away. So just to learn that and have that visual in my head, you know, while I'm making decisions. A lot of people, they feel like they're being controlled if somebody's telling them that.

42:27But for me, it's a choice. It's like, do you want to be broke 20 years from now? or do you want to be having more money 20 years from now? All right, well, this is how you do it. Yeah, it's good advice, man. It makes sense. And it's hard to do in the moment because you want to get that thing or you want to buy that thing, and it applies across the board. What's the dumbest thing you ever bought and now you look back and go, oh, God, that was dumb?

42:53Man, I don't think it was ever like one dumb thing. I just used to be dumb how I bought stuff. Like I would see anything and just like it and buy it. It didn't matter how much it cost. If it was a car, I wanted it. I would buy it like right then and there. Sometimes it'd be a watch or something like that. And like a lot of these watches I don't even have no more. So it's like - You gave them away or sold them? Sold, gave away, lost.

43:22Yeah. And what was the best investment you've ever made? It'd probably be like some stocks or it's like some, you know, like a percentage of a business that I've invested in. Yeah. Yeah, I've had multiple, but there's some really good ones that, you know, I put some money into that is going to come back in some really good ways. Yeah. I hope people get inspired by hearing you talk about how sometimes you've got to put off those big purchases, wait a year for that car, Because I think when we're young, especially, and you come into even a little bit of money, which feels like a lot of money, it's so easy to spend and just get carried away.

44:03And especially now, I feel like with all of us just ordering things off of Amazon and everything else all day, it's like you have no idea how much money you spend. Oh, for sure. It's so easy. It's super easy to look up and, you know, however much, just be gone. And when it's gone, it's gone. Yeah. And to me, I feel like you have to go through that. You have to really feel that and understand it. And whatever you believe in, I believe in God. So it's like, that's God telling me like, okay, you spent this much, it's gone. You're going to get more, but you need to deal with the feeling of you having it and it being gone.

44:41and then now we'll see what getting more feels like but some people when they have it and it's over with they don't even know what that bounce back feels like or looks like so you know unfortunately the the best way to learn is to go through it yeah but um yeah yeah but afterwards like you know it's on you after that like you're gonna keep doing the same thing over and over or you're gonna learn from you know what happened what is what does your relationship with god look like my relationship with god is the i pray all the time i thank god all the time yeah a lot of people there's certain people who don't feel like god is like a higher power or anything like that but i like to just imagine that my god is just like chilling up in the sky like with a big deep voice the sun could be going down and i could be driving and the hotel california could be on i'd be like, thank you, God.

45:37You know what I mean? Because the situation just feels right. Yeah. Yeah. And what does God say to you in God's deep voice? You're welcome. You're supposed to have this. That's awesome. Has that always been there since you were young? Or has that come with time as well? Yeah, definitely since I was a teenager. Definitely since I was like, I can remember, you know, being in like ninth, tenth. No, probably even like eighth, eighth grade. Just praying every night, thanking God for a wonderful day, asking him to bless everybody that I care for. Yeah, just like really cool stuff, like just normal, normal ass shit that I want the world to feel.

46:15What would you pray for? What else apart from other people? To be safe. I was in a crazy ass place when I lived in Pittsburgh, so I definitely asked for like that safety. The older I get, you know, I ask for, like, patience and understanding and things like that, you know what I'm saying? So just regular shit. Wow, that's not regular. That's pretty deep. Yeah. Yeah. How unsafe was it where you were in Pittsburgh? It's super unsafe in Pittsburgh, man. Like, the streets is crazy out there. Friends of mine started getting murdered when I was in, like, seventh grade. Like, I remember, like, one of my first friends getting shot and killed in seventh grade.

46:55Wow. And then when did you leave Pittsburgh? I came to Pittsburgh permanently when I was in middle school. And I stayed throughout high school. And I probably didn't dip until I was like 23 years old. Right. Because you moved around a lot growing up, right? At least as far as I saw. Yeah, probably like every... Two years in Japan. Yeah, every two years I would bounce around. And my mom was always in Pittsburgh. So I would go live with my dad for two years and then I would come back to Pittsburgh. Then I would go live with my dad and then I would come back to Pittsburgh. So I was in Pittsburgh in third grade and I was also there for middle school and then I came back for high school.

47:34And then other than that, I lived like in Oklahoma, South Carolina, Japan. Yeah, those were a couple of other places. What was your favorite place? I think Japan was my favorite place. How old were you when you were in Japan? I was in like fifth or sixth grade. Okay. Yeah. What was that like? I mean, Japan at that time, but now I feel like everyone's like Japan's the place to go. Yeah, it's cool when you're, like, exploring Japanese culture, but I just realized, like, as an adult that that shit was kind of fucked up. Because it was like, I'm living on an American base in Japan. Right. And, like, just the concept of, like, Americans occupying Japan.

48:09It was like, you never find a Japanese base in America. But, like, we have the audacity to, like, go over there and just be like, here, here's our base. We're going to operate as Americans. We're going to send our kids to school here. don't teach them your language nothing it's just going to act like america in japan so that's that's you never learned japanese i learned a little bit of japanese but it was like basic it wasn't like really any like diving into the culture or anything like that like it's just you live on post and you travel from one base to another base and that's pretty much what it was how do you think that experience impacted you now like how is that childhood experience of moving around dotting around every two years defined who you are today?

48:54It was cool because I was able to just be a regular kid and I was able to like meet friends and different groups of friends and run around and play and knock on doors and ride bikes and climb hills and stuff like that. So it was super chill, man. It was fun just being normal and not really worrying about too much. I think the older that I got and the more settled that I got in in Pittsburgh that's when I started to like figure out you know who I wanted to be later in life but in those early years it was just all about like being a kid and just playing with my friends when you saw all of that around you how did you have what gave you that feeling to dream and to want something more when you're seeing like the violence around you you're saying it's a rough neighborhood what what's given you the ability to go there's there's more to life than this i think it was just like knowing that i had talent with music um i always did music since i was younger my uh my uncles and my cousins were older than me they were like you know 15 16 all the way up to almost like 20 years old and i was like the baby i'm 13 years old so i'm really kind of trying to do what they're doing but i'm picking the parts that make the most sense for me.

50:08So it's like the gang banging and the drug selling and the guns and all that shit. I'm like, that's not really for me. But the looking cool, the having girls, the getting money, the making music. I'm like, I like that part of it. So that's what I always really stuck to. Like just even as a kid, like I was just like, I'm gonna just do what I know is cool for me, which is just making music. and you know that's kind of like what led me on my path yeah how could you how did you stay away from all of the other things because sometimes those can look cool when you're young they can they can be attractive when you're young and powerful I didn't really stay away from it I had definitely like you know the older that I got and the you know the more fun I started to have I kind of was in and out of that stuff but it wasn't for me you know like just there's it's a lifestyle for some people and for a lot of those people like they're still doing it now and for me it was just kind of like you know being a kid or like a rite of rite of passage type thing or it's like product of my environment type stuff you know like the little stuff that I would get into is like I'm here so you know I'm I'm getting down like I'm not gonna be the only one who's not down you know you grow out of that stuff too and you learn from that stuff as well so I learned from the things that I did do and I learned from the things I didn't do as well.

51:33Yeah. I mean, now you're a father yourself. Yeah. How do you feel looking now from the perspective of being a dad? You've been a father to Sebastian for a while now. Right. And then you just had a daughter, Cadence, I believe. Congratulations. Thank you. And like, what's it been like to be a father to Sebastian? And then how is your views of fatherhood changing now that you've had a daughter? Yeah. It's been really good having Sebastian and having a boy, especially at his age. He's 11 now. And there's just certain instincts that are starting to kick him, you know, where it's like he was a young boy.

52:11Now he's like, you know, a young man and he's growing into more of a young man every day, really. and just that programming of, you know, life and discipline and being polite and, you know, on top of, you know, just everyday stuff of, like, handling his emotions with his friends and things like that. It's a really, like, fun experience going through all of that with him because I'm able to remember what it was like for me as a kid. So instead of just, like, telling him the rules and what you should and shouldn't do, It's more like guiding him of, you know, how to, you know, navigate through these situations, which is really, really fun.

52:55And I had that with my dad as well. He was always, you know, there for me and talked to me about a lot. And he was way more disciplinary than lenient. And I'm a super lenient parent with my son, but I'm also like really real with him. And he's able to be real with me and he's able to talk to me about, you know, real life things. And when I think about the stuff that I did when I was coming up, by the time I was his age, I was doing a lot more stuff because like I said, my uncles and my cousins were older. And I'm just thankful that I was able to have those experiences and know what's appropriate and what's right and what's not.

53:32So I'm able to monitor what goes on with him and what will affect his behavior later. and then just having a baby girl i think it just adds to it now because i'm able to just give all types of love like i got the tough love with my boy and then i got like just the sweetness of having a daughter which you know helps uh helps out a lot yeah how do you think you're gonna shift your strategy as she grows up i think i'm gonna do it pretty much the same just like cater to her needs like whatever she needs if she's like super girly girl then we doing you know ballet and we doing dance and we doing drama and we doing all the girly stuff and if she's a tough girl then we doing kickboxing and we doing whatever else to rough her up we do horseback riding we do whatever we want to do like you know what i'm saying there's no the sky's the limit but you know keep her active keep her entertained and just cater to her needs yeah what's sebastian into right now like 11 year old what's what's like his obsession um he loves basketball okay yeah he loves to play basketball he's really just now learning like the fundamentals of it but he's good at it he's an athletic kid and he's like it's good to see him like roughing around with the boys like being one of the boys they talk shit to each other they get in each other's faces and like they really get after it so he's he's like gravitating towards basketball more than anything just that and just being with the friend being with his friends like just being a kid were you ever any good at basketball yeah hell yeah i never had like like official training like what he's going through but if i did bro i'll be so much better than i actually am and i'm really really good so i would be like i'll be deadly if i knew how to do it what he's learning right now so you could give him some pointers along the way just like naturally you know what i'm saying yeah yeah yeah i love that and you never did ballet or anything or anything no no i never did that i did like acting classes and shit like that i was in like speech and drama and all of that shit but never know dance though did that help speech and drama classes like how did that i think that helped yeah yeah i think it helped a lot because it was like you know you learn how to project your voice and all of that stuff and you learn how to like hit cues on stage and you know just kind of like get outside of yourself in front of people where you're still yourself but then you're like outside of yourself.

56:00I definitely think that helped for my performance. Yeah. If Sebastian came up to you and was like, I want to be a rapper too. Yeah. What would you say to him? I'd be like, let's go. Studios downstairs. What advice would you have for him to find his voice? Studios downstairs. Just get in there. Get in there and start rapping. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Would you want that or you're kind of open to whatever? Yeah, I wouldn't mind. especially the way that I'm implemented in the game. Like I do what I want to do. I'm not like nobody controls me. Nobody tells, nobody's like working me harder than I need to be worked or anything.

56:38So I see the same vision for him, especially in the age that we're in. So it's like if you're going to be an artist, you're going to be in complete control of everything. So it starts now. Yeah. Yeah. The team was saying that you plan a lot of your life around him. yeah like they were saying that like sports games and things like that like you've you've really taken that idea of an artist should be in control of their own life yeah like walk us through that mentality that mindset a lot of people focus so much on their work and they think like uh that the work is going to come to an end at some point or they have to sacrifice things that are important for work.

57:18And I believe the opposite. I think I should sacrifice work for my family. And it should just be the other way around because of how much that work and how fortunate I am to be in the situation where I put in a lot of work. I've done a lot of things. So I don't have to, you know, feel this sense of urgency that things aren't going to go my way if I miss out on something or if I, you know, speak up and just try to make sure that everything works out how I would rather it work. And, you know, I had the point in my life where I would be in a studio every day or I would be, you know, a different country every day or I would be, you know, a show, fitting, assigning, TV appearance, blah, blah, blah.

58:10I would do all of these things back to back to back to back to back to back. So I've done that already. But now it's more important for me to just wake up, work out, spend time with my family, make sure that he is at his best because he needs to go to practice. He needs to train every day for him to be successful later on in life. And if I'm not there to like motivate that, either he's going to get it from somebody else, I don't know who, or it's just not going to happen at all. And that's my job right now is to make sure that he's successful. So, you know, if I miss this or if that doesn't, you know, go the way that it's supposed to, I'm cool with that.

58:51Because in the end, he's going to get to be as successful as he needs to be. Yeah, that's beautiful, man. Because I feel like there's such a, it's wonderful to hear because I feel like we're living at a time where there's such a pressure to constantly be relevant, to constantly like keep up with, you know, what everyone's doing. And now you've got a million platforms to stay relevant on and everyone's doing this and that. And so it sounds like you've created like a healthy detachment between who you are at your work and who you are at home. Yeah. And that's quite a beautiful thing. Yeah, I see that better working out long term.

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1:02:08A lot of my time that I spent early in the studio was with my dad because he built a studio and was running it. He didn't know about music and he didn't know about any of that stuff, but I told him I was into it and he built a studio and was like, all right, learn how to use the equipment, start writing songs, put an album out, do this, do that, and I did it all. And he was like, damn, I didn't know you was really going to do it. I'm like, yeah, this is what I want to do. so like just through you know seeing how important him being involved with what i was passionate about took me to the level that i'm at it lets me know like whatever my son and my daughter are passionate about i have to experience those things with them i can't just give them money and provide it for them i have to actually do it with them and that's going to make a hell of a difference yeah how does your dad feel about seeing you now my dad loves it man he's like in awe like all the time and i think out of everything he understands like how hard i work too and he's really proud of it sometimes he gets a little bit worried like he's like is this too much like you know what i mean like i know you do a lot i'm like no it's cool i'm built for this like this is what i do so he sees how much i work and he sees how much effort i put in like constantly but he's really proud of me.

1:03:27What's something you learned from your mom? The value of family. Yeah, my mom taught me the value of family. She always kept me around my family members. She kept me around my cousins, my aunts, my granddad. She even keeps me around my dad's side of the family. And they got divorced when I was two years old. But she still hangs out with my dad's sisters, my aunts, my cousins and all that on their side. So she keeps me in touch with them. She keeps my kids in touch with them she does the whole genealogy of the whole family like my mother is so family oriented and that like rubbed off on me as well that's beautiful what's a misconception you think people have about you if they have one at all i don't think at this point there is any misconceptions i think there's just like learning more about me i think that the more people learn about me the more they see like how chill how educated how well spoken and like thought out a lot of things that I do are and they start to really understand why the people who love me you know whether it's my music or I changed their life in whatever way they start to understand like where that comes from yeah what what's something about you that people may not know that you'd like them to understand along those lines i think right now i just want people to know like how you said like how detached i am from the whole success world like i'm cool with it but like that's not the goal and it's not and a lot of people say like oh well you have money so it's easy for you to say that but i think you just reach certain points in your life where different things are important no matter how much money you have.

1:05:12And, you know, some people, I'm 37 years old. Some people reach my age, and this is the time that they start their business. And they're like, I'm going to go hard, and I'm going to build my empire now. I was just lucky to have got a head start in my 20s, build my empire. And now I really understand, like, you know, how to sustain it and maintain it and keep it going for the next 10, 20 years. And those are the things that I'm really, really working on. uh along with the music you know which is super duper important but it's really just about like making this thing last yeah and i don't i think you're right i don't think it's about how much money you do or don't have i think anything can become a drug and you can get addicted to yeah and i remember you know kevin hart was sitting in that chair and he was talking about how success became a drug for him he was just addicted to more and more of it and so it's easy for you to get addicted and obsessed and just and you're actually saying well actually i'm i I don't want to get addicted to it.

1:06:10No, yeah, no, it's my work. It's my job. It's what I'm really, really good at. And I don't never want to give that up for, you know, a normal life or anything like that. But I do value my normal life as much as I value, you know, I value the 30 ,000 people on stage, but I also value being in my bed alone at night when the lights are off. I love it. Yeah, yeah. I appreciate that. And I think we need more of that healthy thinking because I think if you only like one or the other or if you start to detest one or the other, that's when it starts to get scary. Like a lot of people love being in the audience.

1:06:50They don't like being alone. Or a lot of people like, oh God, I hate being with the fans now. And I love being alone. And I think both of those can lead to a lot of pain internally. Yeah, you have to work on both. And when you know what you're here for, you know which time is to do which one. I spent a lot of time working on the other side of it to where I love my job and I love what I do. And I'm very grateful to be able to make the amounts of money doing what I do. But that's not everything to me. I work as hard on my personal life as I do on that side of it. I'm in the, you know, if I'm in the studio 12 hours or if I'm on a plane, you know, 16 hours and I barely get any sleep and I don't eat.

1:07:32and I do promo and I do a great show and I do a meet and greet and I smile and I take everybody's picture. That's all part of the game. That's me going hard to make sure that that part of it lasts. When I'm by myself, I'm waking up, you know, at a good, at a decent time. I'm going to sleep at a decent time. I'm working out. I'm spending these certain hours. I do yoga. You know, there's just certain things that go with the process. And then, like you said, planning things around my kids. so it's like i'm making sure that i'm spending this family time where it's not they're getting the short end of the stick off of anything so i'm working passionately and hard on my normal life the same way that i do in you know my professional life and sometimes it takes more energy in normal life than it does in a professional life i agree with you yeah yeah sometimes it's easy to be disciplined at work right but to actually show up for your family and be disciplined at home Right, right.

1:08:27It requires a whole nother thing. And a lot of people, they run from that because it's easier to, you know, just put all the guilt and responsibility. Oh, I got to work. It's my job. It's easy for you to do that. Take some time. You know what I'm saying? You know, be a little bit nervous. Be a little bit uncomfortable. Be a little bit bored. But you're not going to be bored if you're around people you love. Like, I'm never bored around my kids. But, you know, be passionate about your normal life as well. Yeah, it sounds like you have so much order and discipline in your life. When I'm hearing that, I'm like, it sounds like everything's very structured and organized and intentional.

1:09:02It's not like this random like... Yeah, it's not random at all. Every day is very regimented. Yeah, it's definitely regimented. I look at my schedule regularly. I'm updating the schedule regularly. And it just really built to make me happy. I'm cool with everything that I have to do as long as I'm happy. You know what I'm saying? And if we talk about it and we arrange it and we put it in all the times that it's supposed to be, I'll be really, really happy and I'll love to do it. But when things start coming out of left field and you have your idea of what an appropriate time is and we didn't run that by each other, like, that's not going to make me happy to do this.

1:09:41And I'm doing this because I love it. I saw your men's health video with MMA, which has become your fascination and I guess workout routine for a couple of years now, I feel. Where did that start and how did that come about? A lot of my big homies were getting, and when I say big homies, I mean security. They were getting into MMA and doing jujitsu and just martial arts and just meeting all types of people. And this was like almost 10 years ago. And they were just telling me like, bro, this is the next wave. Like, everybody's about to be doing this, blah, blah, blah. It's that and the other thing.

1:10:16You got to get into it. You got to get into it. I'm like, yeah, it's cool. But, you know, I'd rather, like, you know, smoke weed and be in the studio. Like, you know what I'm saying? But as soon as I started working out, I just developed, like, a passion for it, like, out of nowhere. And it didn't make me slow down smoking any. Like, I was able to, like, still get stoned. But I love training and I love working out and I love, like, learning new things. so it just just kept building on top of each other and just building and building and then i just you know started to develop um some skills that you know we're still sharpening to this day do you go to watch as well or you just like training oh yeah i watch the shows as well yeah i got a company called pfl that i'm involved with uh i go to their shows all the i mean i go to their fights all the time i go to boxing matches just wrestling matches there's jujitsu matches there's all types of stuff combat sports is like as you've seen it's grown so much and so many influencers want to do it it's just a really good lifelong thing too like it's gotten popular for how much money it makes people and things like that but as a lifelong practice like i would suggest that for any and everybody yeah if there are men who are watching who want to get into health and fitness what would be your best advice to them to motivate them inspire them let them know how important it's been for you and it could be for them i would just try to paint the scenario of you being about late 30s out with your kid somebody like is just in your face and your kid is standing right there and you only got 30 seconds to prove to your child that you're the protector or somebody who's finna get whooped start working out now that's hilarious it's funny because my next question was going to be about like you know I feel like masculinity is such a big talking point right now and you know a lot of men feeling like they've inherited the mistakes made by men in the past and so men carrying around a lot of judgment men feeling left behind in the conversation the different things you've talked about today and the way you're organizing your life like masculinity is a very broad spectrum it's not just right one way right and so how have you ever thought about that raising a son for yourself the message you put out i feel like rap and hip-hop had a version of masculinity before and that's right what are your thoughts on that i think i've always like approached masculinity just off of my vision of it and the most masculine and people that I respect and just the the situations that I look at as what you know a man should model themselves as are usually the most like moderate and mild-tempered and just chill and kind of you know observant and just guiding the situation.

1:13:25And any way that you can position yourself to be that type of person, I've always felt like that was the more, you know, respectable thing. And we all have feelings and we all have emotions. And that's where like training and combat sports, it helps you like to put all of that stuff in the right place. Because when you get a chance to get that stuff out, you realize where it has a place at, where it doesn't. And a lot of people, they don't have a place to get that stuff out. So they think that they're being masculine by like shouting or yelling or being rude to somebody. But really that should be like the last case scenario.

1:14:04You know what I'm saying? Like that's why I say protecting your child because I would never use what I know to hurt anybody unless it was to protect my family or myself. It wouldn't be in any other situation because to me, that's not cool, that's not tough, that's not even what it's for. So I think the idea of masculinity, it just comes from whoever is putting it out at the moment and what they've learned from it. And, you know, the world judges the way that it does based off of their experiences. because they think, you know, the most mean or the most scary or this, that, and the other thing.

1:14:51But they haven't, they show that, but there's not a lot of real situations that people are in that prove that that's the right thing. And from my experience, what's proven the most is the most mild, chilled, moderate people are the ones that you should probably be like the most worried about. So the more that you can position yourself in life to have an understanding of your own emotions and be in control of your reactions to things, I think that just makes you more looked at as what people would consider masculine or a leader or a provider or something like that rather than like an emotional, you know, person.

1:15:33Yeah, that's a really powerful answer, man. I feel like you kind of feel the world going through two extremes where it's like masculinity used to be this bravado, chauvinistic, arrogant, you know, alpha male type. And then it swung to like being vulnerable and soft and this. And now I kind of feel like it's kind of swinging back the other way. Yeah. And it's almost like, I like how you described it because it's not really hard or soft. It's kind of like the person who can like calm it down, guide it, move it along, knows what to do with everything. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Because I've seen both, you know, and I've been around like growing up in Pittsburgh, you see a lot of dudes where it's like the street nigga type is like the hyper masculine.

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1:19:28going at each other's necks. Yeah, and we need to see that modeled more. It's hard because you don't see it that much. Yeah. So it's hard to know as a man how to do that. But you're right. If you look at the best athletes in the world, they're the ones who kept their calm when things were tough. Right, right. They weren't the ones spewing anger. And it's interesting because MMA, I think people who haven't been trained in martial arts or don't know people who often can think of it as like combat sports are like angry. But have you learned any practices from MMA that you feel apply really well to what we're talking about right now?

1:19:59I think just getting punched in the face. You learn how to be calm and not get emotional when somebody hits you in the face and you still got three rounds to do work or you still got three minutes in a round or five minutes in a round to do work. You can't let your emotion. You have to be calm. You have to think. You have to remember your footwork. You have to remember your breathing. You have to remember defense so you don't get hit again. There's way more... to the story than just I got punched in the face. And a lot of people will never really get that lesson or get that feeling of I got hit and I got to keep it moving.

1:20:39You know, most people want something to happen as soon as they get hit. But, you know, I think just through martial arts and it sounds extreme and it sounds crazy, but I think everybody should get punched in the face. I know what you're saying, though. I get what you're saying. It's like, it's only at that point do you know how tolerant and still you are. Because up until then, you can be like, I'm super chill. I'm calm. But it's responding to that. Yeah. And there's a lot of dudes who's like, if somebody punches me in the face, I'll kill them. But like, no, you won't. You got to fight back. You got three minutes or you're going to keep getting punched in the face.

1:21:17So it's like, it's fun when you just remove everything and hit somebody in the face. How often do you get points in the face when you're a practice? We do sparring off and on, especially because I got to do, like, appearances and shows and shit like that. Because anything could happen. Like, my nose rings could come out. I could get black eye. Like, my forehead could get split. You're going to protect the face. Yeah, for sure. So when I know I'm not having to do too much, that's when we usually do some sparring. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Or we'll do light sparring where it's not like, you know, nobody's in too much danger.

1:21:53Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That makes that makes sense. Yeah. I was trying to figure out how you're doing that. Yeah. No, I'm really glad we dove into the masculinity thing because I just feel like it's such a need right now. And I want, you know, men and women to both feel like, you know, that we're kind of having these conversations that I think sometimes on the on the biggest screens, you don't see them. Yeah. And I think it's like the word masculinity has gotten so abused to where people think it's a bad thing. And it's like, there are good examples of masculinity. Like I have a daughter, so she has to see what a masculine man is like.

1:22:33She has to see what a provider is like. She has to see what somebody who is going to make her feel protected as well as cared for. and you know all of the things that that describe what real masculinity is beyond you know what you can do physically to somebody or even uh financially you know what i'm saying emotionally being there for her there's a lot of things that me having the right types of masculinity are gonna be you know positive for her to see yeah 100 100 man and with this new album what was the energy that you put into it, like it's a sequel. So there's that. Was there something you were trying to revisit or bring back?

1:23:16Yeah, I think I'm just revisiting. When I did Cushion Orange Juice, the style of it was like, you know, stoner kid. Everybody just smoke weed, be cool, be chill. And this is the soundtrack to the lifestyle. And I've done a lot with my music to where I've, you know, had my take on what I think music should sound like at certain points. I've had, you know, my take on what I think are like really big, huge records and what those should sound like. And then I've also just experimented with, you know, what street culture is at the time and just what's popular to the kids. And I think with Cushion Orange Juice, it really resonated with people because of the lifestyle that it created and the things that I talked about in that lifestyle and the way that the music sounded and grooved with that lifestyle.

1:24:12So just being aware of that and knowing what type of chaotic state that we're in right now, I just felt like it was the perfect time to just reintroduce people to a more laid back, chill, just smoke some weed and vibe out, you know, and create a whole crowd of people who want to do the same thing. Yeah. Yeah. And it's interesting, right? Like you, it's like you're chilled out, but then you're super productive. Yeah. How do you hope that your audience kind of feels both of those as well? Because it's almost like, yeah. It's been good because I think just through experience, I've learned that the majority of people who listen to my music end up bossing up.

1:24:53Yeah. I love that. Yeah. Like there's a lot of artists now, you know, who were in like middle school, high school when Cushion Orange Juice came out or they watched my day to days and they're like, man, this is what really, you know, let me know this is what I needed to do to be an artist. Or I studied you every day, blah, blah, blah. Or I dropped out of college and I got my friends and, you know, we started our label and now we're Big Sean and you know what I'm saying? So like I've seen a lot of people who have taken my blueprint and turned it into, you know, exactly what I've done with it. so um i think the message gets across really really well that you know you you'd be a pothead but you'd be productive and you boss up and put all the homies on i think they get that that message really well i love that yeah thank you how does how does it feel that see you again is the second most viewed video yeah on youtube music video of all time i mean that's insane yeah it's pretty cool how does that feel it feels good i think it feels better that i'm able to like walk around because most people they they would think that if your video is that popular or if you have that much success that you're just like not even real but like to me I could still go to my son's games I could still you know go pick records out I could still go to the gym without a fleet of security with me so like I didn't sacrifice my uh sanity to be the second most viewed person in the world so I'm happy about that yeah and it's such a great song too to be known for I feel it's a really good song and shout out to Charlie too man like Charlie did his thing and yeah the whole process of like making that song was like a dream come true because it was for a soundtrack so you never know how that's gonna go there was like 10 other people who were supposed to be on the song so you know me writing a verse I was just like writing a verse I wasn't I'm like, this song is going to change my life.

1:26:53I need to sit down. I was just like, yo, here you go. It's dope verse. I love the verse and shit. But they were like, it really connected with the people who were doing the movie at the time. And shout out to Weave and Constance and Will and everybody. But we just kind of like just shaved it down. And it just ended up making sense with it just being me and Charlie on there. And that song has taken us like super duper far. Yeah, it's dope. It's amazing. What was your motivation to go sober from alcohol? My motivation to be sober from alcohol was just I had drank for so long. Since I was able to drink, I've been drinking and I never seen a reason to really stop because like I just love partying.

1:27:38I love being around people. I love, you know, just being a vibe. After one, I think it was one show, I just got like completely wasted, which was normal. I was like man I don't really have too many like Memories Of places I was like I mean I love doing these shows And shit was like I don't be remembering Like you know what I mean anything I was like I want to kind of like experience this stuff Remember where I'm at Remember the people who I'm dealing with Actually enjoy it and not just be like Turned up you know So yeah it was just a time of like just Gathering information And I'm real happy for that Yeah.

1:28:18Was it hard to break away? No, no, no. It wasn't difficult at all. I think when I want to do something, I'm good at it. Like, if it means something to me, I have my own reasons for doing it. Nobody's making me do it. Or I feel like even if somebody made me do it, if it was like a challenge or something like that, or if like I had to for legal reasons or something like that, I wouldn't have a problem doing a lot of things. But, you know, for me, it's just my lifestyle is so free and it's so fun. So half of the time, it's like, why would I stop? But if I make up a reason for myself, I usually end up sticking to it.

1:28:55Wiz, at the start of the interview, I asked you, what's the first thing you do when you wake up? Yeah. What's the last thing you do before you go to bed? Last thing I do before I go to bed, kiss my son and my daughter. Nice. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. Beautiful. Wiz, I end every episode. You've been amazing. So generous with your time. Great, just great energy. I really enjoyed spending this time with you, man. Yeah, I appreciate you. I feel like I've learned so much about you today that I didn't know for sure. Thank you. We end every episode with a final five. These have to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum.

1:29:27Okay. And so Wiz Khalifa, these are your fast five final five. The first question is, what's the best advice you've ever heard or received? Just be you. That's from Snoop Dogg. Nice. Question number two, what's the worst advice you've ever heard or received? Change your name from Wiz Khalifa. Two? I don't know. They just told me that that name wasn't going to work. Why didn't they like the name? Because it's just too different. You know what I'm saying? Like, it didn't sound like nothing. It didn't give off. You didn't get any visual from that back in the day when I told you that that was my name.

1:30:01So a lot of people, close people to me was like, I like you. You can rap. You're really cool, but you need to change your name. And it ended up working out for me because in the years that I was being discovered, it's a brand new name. So when you Google that name, I'm the only thing that comes up. So it was like one of the most Googled names, like, you know, for that year. So the thing that people told me wasn't going to work ended up working. I love that. Where did it come from? Wiz is short for wisdom and Khalifa is leader or successor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did you come across the word Khalifa?

1:30:31Because that's... Khalifa, my parents are, well, my grandparents, my granddad is Muslim. Right, right, right. Yeah, it was wonderful. Very cool, man. Exactly. That is a dope name. Thank you, man. Yeah, it's cool. It's cool. I love this hat too. Yeah, good look. I saw this on your merch yesterday. Yeah, new merch. New merch. I'm a walking billboard, baby. I like this hat. All I wear is me. Yeah, I love it. Question number three, what's something that you used to value that you no longer value? I used to really enjoy going to nightclubs. I don't enjoy it anymore. Because? I feel like the music isn't the same.

1:31:03I feel like people don't really dance anymore. Like, they're just in, like, sections, just kind of chilling. And it just kind of defeats the purpose of going out. Like I never went out just to look cool. I would go out to get girls and I really don't like chase women all like that no more. And I think it's just the polite thing to do. Like normally, like, like I said, anymore, because like normally even being in a relationship, I would just be like, yo, it's a part of my life. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to be around hella chicks. Get used to it. You know what I'm saying? That's what I would do before.

1:31:35Like, but now I don't really like, I don't really care for that shit no more. Question number four, how would you define your current purpose? I would define my current purpose as a leader and as a provider and as somebody who a lot of people look up to. So it doesn't matter what I get personally. It's more about what I do for others. And fifth and final question, we ask this to every guest who's ever been on the show. if you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow what would it be smoke weed every day i love it wizz khalifa christian oranges too yep thank you so much this is so much fun i had a great time i had a good time too yeah i hope you did man i like your jeans too man thank you man i appreciate you if this is the year that you're trying to get creative you're trying to build more, I need you to listen to this episode with Rick Rubin on how to break into your most creative self, how to use unconventional methods that lead to success, and the secret to genuinely loving what you do.

1:32:46If you're trying to find your passion and your lane, Rick Rubin's episode is the one for you. Just because I like it, that doesn't give it any value. Like as an artist, if you like it, that's all of the value. That's the success comes when you say, I like this enough for other people to see it.

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