Happy Mother's Day, Mama Mooch!

0:04To all celebrating, I'm wishing you a happy Mother's Day. Today's bonus episode is dedicated to the real star of Open Book Book. My mother, Marie Scaramucci, you're all getting to know her as she joins us at the end of the show. She is quite the character and she is completely unfiltered. So at some point I'll probably get canceled as a result of my mother. I actually could care less. I think it's important to have her 87-year-old voice on the show. And if you're a frequent listener, you know she's always pushing me to run for office, which is against the wishes of my wife, Deirdre, who believes in her presidential platform would be a castration platform, which we certainly don't want to have that happen to me, God forbid.

0:45But let's get to it.

0:59Anthony. Yes, ma. And? Yes, ma. Holy shit. Man, you really are talking like you really hate his guts, baby. Well, I do hate his guts, ma. I know. What if he wins? You love the way I attack Trump or not really? No, it makes you worry, right? Yeah, I worry about maybe that you would get hurt. But I think you're telling the truth. I think that he has done a lot of terrible things. And he's ruthless. He doesn't care what he says to people. And I think that's part of an insecurity. Okay, but you didn't raise me to be a shrinking violet, though, right? I mean, come on. I grew up on Webster Avenue. I got taught to have no fear.

1:37We go right at the guy, right? Well, first of all, my brother was very big in motorcycles, and my two sons were raised up there. And there was all kinds of people from Forbes to people that were almost homeless. So you got the feeling of everybody. All right. Well, we're celebrating Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day to you, okay? Thank you. So this is a bonus episode. It's dedicated to you because apparently you are the real star of the show, okay? my mom, Marie Scaramucci, has stolen the show from me. Is that surprising? To a point, you know, I did do the best I could in raising you. Okay. Happy Mother's Day, Ma.

2:18Let's start out with the new boyfriend, though. You're 87. You have a boyfriend, Ma? Well, I have someone that I went with as a child, 15 to 17. Okay. And he came back in my life. Okay. And so you're dancing around him? of this there's pictures on my phone sent from my sister susan where you're you're dancing with them all over long island what's going on ma well it's a very um upbeat feeling to know that someone can love you after 68 years you know it's like an unbelievable thing i don't think without saying names i don't think he ever ever got over me okay well you're hard to get over right ma i guess so because you're still into me.

3:01I'm still into you? You're my mother. Of course I'm still into you. I mean, come on. I know, but there's mothers and there's mothers. There's mothers and there's mothers. I mean, I had a person within my family who left her children. There's mothers. All right, here we go. You're going to bring up all the dirty laundry. You're going to put all the family's dirty laundry on the podcast. All right, so you're 87. You're still dating. What was your first date like, Mom? Were you smoking cigarettes on your first date? My Nana wanted to smack you. What was your first date like? My mother was from Italy, and in that era, they thought if you smoked, that you were in the fast lane.

3:37But I was edgy as a kid because I was definitely very spoiled by my father and my two brothers. There was a 10 and 12 year difference. So you were breaking the rules by smoking, right? Yeah, for sure. Okay. I used to open the bathroom window, blow the smoke out and spray it. Right. And she pulled your hair? Yes, she did. All right. So let me ask something, Ma. Did you like being a mom? I mean, you're still raising me. I'm 60 years old and you're still raising me and telling me I'm not dressed right and my makeup's not right on television and I need to cut my hair. And what the hell are you doing with the hair?

4:15I love being a mother. I love being a mother and I love being a grandmother, but I love being a mother. I don't think there's anything more rewarding than being a mother. So Ma, let me ask you this though, even though I'm for sure your favorite of the three kids that you created, do you lie to the other kids and tell them that they're their favorite when you're with them? You can tell me. No, I, I, each trial that I have is different. I love you for being who you are. I love this. So you're a socialist, you're like Karl Marx, right? Well, you're a socialist, right? You love everybody equally, Ma?

4:50Yeah, I do. I really do. I love each one of my children for their own personality. My mother used to always say to me, and she did like cuckoo cuckoo, that everyone has to have a hair. And I think everyone has a hair. And every once in a while, it surfaces. And I see it. And I laugh to myself without saying anything to my three kids. Let me ask the question differently, Ma. Who's the child that is most like you? You. Okay, tell me why. So what are the characteristics that I have that are like yours? Go ahead. Well, first of all, you're a giver. And I give to my, there's two people in my immediate, not in my immediate family, in my outside family that are relatives to me.

5:34And I feel very sorry. And if I can, I try to help them in any way that I can. I have like an ache for them. And I think that you're a giver and that you're very kind and you don't hesitate and you don't give to get it back. You just give because you're a good human being. I think you're ahead of the class on that. All right, but I think it's important if you're giving something to somebody, you don't remind them about it or anything like that. That's stupid. You just give it and write it off and move on. And that's it. Okay. And I think that that's me. And I think you have a very bad temper where you keep a lot in.

6:12And when you explode, you're like I am. Right. That's true. It takes a lot to piss me off. But once I'm gone, I'm ready to go. You can't get yourself. Yeah. No, I'm ready to go. Yeah. No question about that. And my brother was working for somebody for years. And the guy, he got old, but he was very honest. And the guy said that he couldn't work anymore. And I called him up and I told him, I think you're awful. And I went at him and I said, maybe we should throw you in the water and have the fish eat you. But I didn't say it very nice. I was shaking and I was screaming. And I think that's how you are.

6:47You think that's how I am. See that? But I try to keep it together. I don't let people know that side of my personality. Right. My my daughter said that's the Zulu side of my personality. Right. Where I could really if you catch me wrong and you're doing something unfair, particularly if you're treating somebody that's been in your mind beneath you, which nobody is beneath anybody, by the way. But if someone's doing that to somebody, I get really pissed. You know that about me. And so do I. Yeah. And I don't think you differentiate a wealth to poverty. I think that never. Why would you do that?

7:19Everybody's the same. I mean, people that have money and act like assholes, like can't stand. I think my mother instilled it in me that everyone in Italian was God's children. White, black, Asian, whatever. Sexual orientation, whatever. It doesn't matter. Yeah, and I think you have a spill of that and you are like that. I think that helps you become successful. I think that's an asset in your personality. So let me switch subjects for a second. Are you vain? Yes. So tell me why are you so vain, Ma? Well, first of all, I used to be told that I looked like Natalie Wood, and that used to make me very conceited as a kid.

8:04Okay, but you're 87 years old. You're still getting some injections in your face, right, from the dermatologist or no? I need them right now, but I have gotten them in the past. And I worked with makeup for 12 years, and I did clear role models, and I love makeup. I have become a makeup junkie at 87 years old. I love it. And I love to do it on my face. I can have a nightgown on and have makeup on. You don't like wearing your bifocals in public, though, right, Ma? You don't like people seeing you with the glasses, right? No, but I love sunglasses. I have a few fetish. I like shoes. I like sunglasses.

8:39I like makeup. I have an American Express bill, Ma. I'm very aware of what you like. And I think that you took after me. You're very vain. You are vain. Oh, wow. Who's the other man? And you always look good, and you have very good looks, and you like to hear it. I was at an affair the other night, and somebody thought I was 72, and I told the person that he was pulling my leg, and he said to me, well, Topshur could be 75. I said, I'm maybe 70. He thinks that I was lying. You love that, right? I love it. How many times have you repeated that story, Ma? Because I've heard it four times now. Now it's on the podcast.

9:17How many times do you repeat the story? I love it. I love it. All right, good. I love it. All right. All right. Tell me one memory, Ma, of you and me together. Go ahead. One memory of how we enjoyed each – well, one memory is that you passed the bar. Okay. And in the beginning, you didn't take it serious. And then when you passed it, I was in a row. You drove me crazy. You drove me crazy. You drove me crazy. Yeah. I didn't even work as a lawyer, but you made me take the bar exam. It's unbelievable. And the guilt. The levels of guilt were just exponential from you. Unbelievable. Well, there's an Italian guilt.

9:50Right. There's no question. No question. The Jews think they have like a monopoly on the guilt, but the Italians are literally worse. You know, they just don't have. I think that the Italians and the Jewish people are a little similar because my partner was Jewish. But I do think there's one difference with a Jewish and Italian. The Jews send their children to camp and I would never send my children to camp. Never. Never. I always tease. 100%. I always tease my Jewish, what the hell are you doing sending that kid to camp? But they like to spend the summer without the kid. I would never do that.

10:23I like to stare at the kid. Oh, that's an offspring of me that you inherited. 100%. All right, Ma, what else, Ma? What else you want to say on Mother's Day, Ma? That I love my children and I love you for who you are and what you are. And I always think that you are the best speaker of all. And I can picture you as President of the United States of America. Here we go again. You're going to run the campaign again. And I think that you would save the country. The country's in an upheaval. Okay. And I think you would do it. All right. All right. Thanks, Mom. Nothing like a mother's love. Okay. Happy Mother's Day, Mom.

10:56I love you. Where are you? I love you. Where am I? I'm in my studio talking to you. Are you coming over? Yes, of course, Mom. I'm not going to miss a Saturday without seeing you. I'll be over there in a little while. All right? I love you, honey. All right. Bye. Bye.

11:16I'm Anthony Scaramucci, and this is Open Book. For more about me, my childhood, early career, Skybridge, Bitcoin, and yes, the White House, my new book, From Wall Street to the White House and Back, is available for pre-order on Amazon and wherever you buy your books.

11:40so there is the famous marie scaramucci at age 87 dating i mean it's sorry for me to believe but she's dating her former high school sweetheart they are a widower and a widow and they're out dancing together okay so god bless them and uh you know that's the interesting part about life OK, we we soften and we get more humbled as we get older. But it's nice to see my mother having some companionship at this age. And if you've got a mother out there, I hope you're wishing her a happy Mother's Day today. And you're getting a sense for where I get some of the craziness of my personality. But in the meantime, thank you for listening to Open Book and a happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there.

12:22I am Anthony Scaramucci, and that was Open Book. Thank you for listening. If you like what you hear, tell your friends and make sure you hit follow or subscribe wherever you listen to your podcasts. While you're there, please leave us a rating or review. If you want to connect with me or chat more about the discussions, it's at Scaramucci on Twitter or Instagram. I'd love to hear from you. I'll see you back here next week.

12:57Thank you.