AJ Brown, NFL Preview With Kevin Clark, Hard Knocks Episode 1 + Mt Rushmore Of Skills We Wish We Learned When We Were Younger

6 Aug 2025 · 3 h · 62 chapters

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In short

Part of My Take covers a “twofer”: (1) an interview with Super Bowl champion A.J. Brown from Eagles camp plus an NFL preview with ESPN’s Kevin Clark, and (2) the crew’s reaction to HBO’s Hard Knocks Episode 1 (Bills training camp), followed by segments like Hot Seat/Cool Throne, Must-Listen, and “Guys on Chicks,” plus other sports/business takes.

Guests (and backgrounds)

  • A.J. Brown: NFL wide receiver; Super Bowl champion; interviewed from Eagles camp.
  • Kevin Clark: ESPN writer/analyst; formerly at The Ringer; joins in-studio for an NFL preview and discussion.

Key claims / notable takes

  • Hard Knocks: The show is mostly a “commercial” for the featured team, but the Bills being good makes it better. They praise the stadium engineering to reduce wind impact and highlight Josh Allen praise, ice cream scenes, and a relatable suitcase-packing moment involving Dawson Knox.
  • NFL preview: The hosts discuss teams “on the rise” and teams expected to struggle.
  • Policy debate: The NFL banning smelling salts is criticized; they argue it’s a safety/health issue tied to concussion-like symptoms and speculate about future rule bargaining.
  • Media business: ESPN acquiring NFL Network is framed as the NFL gaining a 10% equity stake in ESPN, potentially reducing independent access to players.
  • Other sports: College basketball tournament expansion is discussed (NCAA voted not to expand). NBA rumors about Giannis’ future are mocked (“gyro-tweeting” vs Shams). A Denmark zoo food shortage “death drop-off” story is condemned.

Notable examples

  • Hard Knocks: ice cream sundae-making; Josh Allen/Josh-Pagula moments; Tre’Davious White cone management; Dawson Knox packing with his wife.
  • Smelling salts: George Kittle support; “blue tent” workaround jokes.
  • Denmark zoo: accepts donated rabbits/guinea pigs/chickens for predators after euthanasia.
  • Dildo-thrower: “Delbert” arrested after throwing a dildo at a Valkyries/Atlanta Dream game.

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Chapters

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Hard Knocks Review

2:12 to 2:44

Hosts discuss their excitement and disappointment with Hard Knocks.

“on Rumble Premium, and everywhere else at 8 p.m.”

Buffalo Bills Insights

2:44 to 6:34

Hosts share observations and critiques about the Bills based on Hard Knocks.

“Baseball season's second half is kicking off.”

AJ Epinezza and Bills Fans

6:34 to 10:00

Discussion about AJ Epinezza's antics and the emotions of Bills fans.

“That was last year's hard knocks for how the Bears season went was basically triumph of the will.”

Smelling Salts and NFL Regulations

10:00 to 14:00

Hosts debate the NFL's ban on smelling salts and its implications.

“And it will be the last episode I watch.”

NFL Smelling Salts Controversy

14:00 to 17:32

Discussion on the NFL's regulation of smelling salts and its implications.

“Do you remember when Josh got hit and then he did the swelling salts and he was very concussed and he came back in?”

ESPN and NFL Network Merger

17:32 to 19:49

Exploring the implications of ESPN acquiring NFL Network and the NFL's stake.

“Obviously, we talked about the red zone a little bit already.”

Cubs and Brewers Season Update

19:49 to 20:25

Frustrations about the Cubs season and a dominant Brewers performance.

“We cannot do anything except complain on Twitter.”

Hank's Hot Seat and Cool Throne

23:04 to 25:36

Discussion of various sports topics including the Speedway Classic and Giannis.

“Hank's recap of the last part of my takeout.”

Mike Francesa's Giants Insight

25:36 to 28:02

A humorous look into a classic Mike Francesa call regarding the Giants.

“The more things come out the more you think what a terrible event it was You're a funny guy Hank They should have had an actual NASCAR race going on during the baseball game.”

The Giants and Their Namesakes

28:02 to 31:19

A humorous discussion about the San Francisco Giants and the New York Giants, exploring the connection between the two.

“He's like, hey, you ever think the since the San Francisco Giants used to be the New York Giants, when they're ever in town, they do a lunch or something?”
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Memorable Radio Moments

31:20 to 40:36

The hosts share and react to funny radio call-in clips, highlighting bizarre moments and exceptional callers.

“That was like, this guy dropped a hard R on gorilla.”

The Zoo's Disturbing Proposal

40:37 to 42:05

Discussion about a Danish zoo's request for pet owners to donate healthy animals for euthanization to feed their predators.

“Well, and they survive Agent Orange chemical warfare once a month when they nuke the alleys for the rats.”

Mike McDaniel's Death Commentary

42:05 to 44:10

Discussion on Mike McDaniel's peculiar remarks about life and death.

“It's a tree falling in the forest situation.”

Hot Seats and Coaching Choices

44:11 to 46:42

Exploration of current hot seats in the NFL, focusing on coaching styles.

“They're a two-win team now in Cowards Analytics.”

ESPN's New Hire and Content Evolution

46:43 to 49:27

Debate on ESPN's hiring practices and the shift towards lifestyle content.

“She's been – it's not that crazy of a hire.”

Hide-and-Seek Shenanigans

49:28 to 53:12

Lighthearted discussion about hide-and-seek and a recent incident at a mall.

“cool thrones i do yes sir my hot seat today is the uh river city mall in san antonio texas yep There was an injustice served.”

Baker Mayfield's Rise

53:13 to 56:01

Conversation about Baker Mayfield's ranking on the NFL top 100 list.

“If you got a fake beard, you'd be unrecognizable.”

Discussing the Quest Ahead

56:01 to 56:53

The hosts talk about the upcoming journey and preparations.

“We're going to do our Mount Rushmore before we do that.”

Mount Rushmore of Skills

57:55 to 59:26

Hosts share and debate skills they wish they had learned earlier.

“Mount Rushmore of skills we wish we learned when we were younger.”

Skills Discussions Continue

59:27 to 1:08:25

Further exploration of skills and their implications.

“And I believe Big Cat and Zach took the lead in Rushmore.”

Final Skills Picks

1:08:26 to 1:10:03

Concluding thoughts on skills, including cooking and social skills.

“I still think cooking like dishes and all that stuff.”

Exploring Skills We Wish We Learned

1:10:03 to 1:12:01

The hosts discuss various skills they wish they had learned in their youth, starting with music instruments and moving to social skills.

“my elementary school band and then i really i quickly realized when i got home it's like You can't play any – there's no songs that you can play on a drum.”

The Importance of Coding and Bitcoin

1:12:01 to 1:14:17

The conversation shifts to the relevance of coding in today's job market and the challenge of learning how to buy Bitcoin.

“I also know that's something you learn, social skills.”

Debating Financial Literacy and Investing

1:14:17 to 1:17:04

The hosts engage in a humorous debate over financial concepts like investing, money management, and the nuances of learning how to navigate them.

“alright we have two funny ones that we that are probably not going to do well in the graphic if you want us to retract.”

Karate and Knuckleball Dreams

1:17:04 to 1:19:54

The hosts share their nostalgia and fantasies surrounding learning karate and the idea of mastering the knuckleball in baseball.

“Nope, we're not going to do that Oh, come on, we did karate No, this is more of a karate one Hank wants me to take a Oh, okay A boring one What?”

Honorable Mentions of Life Skills

1:19:54 to 1:23:54

The discussion concludes with a list of other skills they wish they had learned, including carpentry, cooking, and magic.

“Alright Let's do honorable mentions I got some ones that we're throwing out Is counting cards boring?”

Skills We Wish We Learned When Younger

1:24:01 to 1:28:33

Discussing various life skills and abilities they wish they learned as kids.

“I'd much rather be able to fucking do karate than know Spanish.”

The Dentist Dilemma

1:28:33 to 1:30:05

Conversations about dental health and experiences with dentists.

“Although I feel like I did learn chess when I was young.”

Introducing Kevin Clark

1:30:05 to 1:31:03

Welcoming Kevin Clark to the podcast and discussing his background.

“Truly Hard Seltzer is all about fun, light, refreshing variety and a bubbly, effervescent style to get you and your people in a lively party mood.”

Kevin Clark on NFL Insights

1:31:03 to 1:35:48

Kevin shares insights on NFL teams and Micah Parsons' situation.

“Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, friend of ours, never been on.”

NFL Trade Talks: Micah Parsons

1:38:01 to 1:40:16

Discussion on the value of Micah Parsons and trade dynamics in the NFL.

“it to me it's such a no-brainer that every team should be calling the Cowboys all 31 yeah like Like, it's not even people like, oh, two first-round picks.”

Brian Schottenheimer and Micah's Future

1:40:17 to 1:42:08

Exploring Brian Schottenheimer's role as the Cowboys' coach and Micah Parsons' situation.

“It would have to be massive, and the team they were trading with would have to stink.”

Hold-ins and Contract Strategies

1:42:09 to 1:45:06

Analyzing hold-ins in the league and contract strategies for teams.

“Oh that's the one you're asking about I was dancing around Terry.”

Cincinnati Bengals and Financial Decisions

1:45:07 to 1:47:39

Discussing the Bengals' financial decisions and their implications on players.

“You don't have to be process guy just because the ownership is from the 76ers, which, by the way, the process didn't even work.”

Coaching Hot Seats and Team Prospects

1:47:40 to 1:50:13

Speculation on coaching hot seats and team performances for the upcoming season.

“And then all of a sudden, there's probably some salary cap relief and PayCorp gets its word out there.”

Surprising NFL Teams for 2023

1:50:14 to 1:52:00

Identifying under-the-radar teams that may outperform expectations this season.

“He had, first two years he was in Miami, he led the NFL in deep receptions.”

NFL Team Performances and Predictions

1:52:00 to 1:54:48

Discussion on various NFL teams' performances and predictions for the upcoming season.

“and you look at Abdul Carter, the practice clips are unbelievable, and I think there's going to be a step forward there.”

Caleb Williams and Young Quarterbacks

1:54:48 to 1:57:38

Insights into Caleb Williams' potential and the challenges faced by young quarterbacks in the NFL.

“making it into the playoffs that weren't in the playoffs last year I don't want to give you hope I think the Bears might be okay.”

Analysis of the Detroit Lions

1:57:38 to 2:03:22

Deep dive into the Detroit Lions' team dynamics, coaching, and prospects for the coming season.

“I think young quarterbacks hold onto the ball too long because they were never punished when they were in high school.”

Other Potential Surprise Teams

2:03:22 to 2:05:51

Exploration of other NFL teams that may perform better than expected this season.

“Like in week 15, we'd be like, oh, Eden Hutchinson's still number four.”

NFL Team Predictions and Personal Stories

2:06:00 to 2:08:10

Discussion on NFL teams' prospects and personal anecdotes related to college football experiences.

“Other teams that you're high on that we're not looking at.”

Cam Ward's Impact on Miami and NFL Transition

2:08:10 to 2:10:30

Analysis of quarterback Cam Ward's performance and potential impact in the NFL.

“Where it's like, hey, you actually have to watch this kid the entire game.”

Carolina Panthers' Super Bowl Chances

2:10:30 to 2:12:49

Exploration of the Carolina Panthers' potential for success based on various factors.

“And also every year that Jennifer Lopez gets a divorce, they go to the Super Bowl.”

Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers' Future

2:12:49 to 2:17:13

Discussion on Aaron Rodgers' performance expectations and the Steelers' prospects.

“There's owners that don't know how to win and want to win.”

Kirk Cousins and the Falcons' Strategy

2:17:13 to 2:19:21

Insight into the Atlanta Falcons' quarterback situation and their draft decisions.

“I think it was one of the shortest depth of targets he's ever had.”

Kevin Clark's Insights and Predictions

2:20:03 to 2:20:40

Kevin discusses his upcoming shows and offers his predictions for the NFL season.

“We'll definitely have you back on during the season.”

Chevy and Proper 12 Promotions

2:23:45 to 2:24:13

Discussion around Chevy trucks and Proper 12 Irish whiskey as sponsors.

“I'm making my Irish entrance with proper number 12 Irish whiskey.”

AJ Brown's Journey and NFL Experience

2:24:47 to 2:28:26

AJ shares insights on his trade to the Eagles, challenges in the NFL, and personal experiences.

“Just pushing past a point where you, your brain, or anyone else thinks you can go.”

Literacy and Personal Growth

2:28:27 to 2:31:46

AJ discusses his literacy foundation and the importance of reading.

“People taking pictures of my car, posting it online.”

Reading and Applying Lessons

2:31:47 to 2:34:00

AJ shares what he reads and how he applies lessons from books to his life.

“But you're helping, you know, kids learn how to read.”

Reflecting on Early Influences

2:34:00 to 2:36:06

Discussion on the impact of reading and personal development.

“So I just read 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, and I'm in Galatians right now.”

The Transition from Baseball to Football

2:36:06 to 2:37:14

AJ Brown shares his journey from being drafted in MLB to pursuing football.

“And so I did that, and I went to Arizona for, like, rookie ball, and I'm out there practicing with the team and everything.”

The Moment of Realization in Football

2:37:14 to 2:38:11

AJ recounts the moment he fell in love with football during a standout game.

“because he would say, if Nick Saban ever comes, like, you're going to Alabama, right?”

Discussing Pressure and Expectations

2:38:11 to 2:40:50

AJ talks about the pressures of performance and expectations in the NFL.

“Trust me, I wish he was made up sometimes.”

Advice to Younger Self

2:40:50 to 2:43:10

AJ reflects on the importance of being present and enjoying the journey.

“you know i think time is relative honestly uh Einstein said that.”

Discussing Pressure and Expectations

2:43:22 to 2:45:54

AJ talks about the pressures of performance and expectations in the NFL.

“Zach, we've been telling him he's going to get a question all day.”

Discussing Pressure and Expectations

2:46:01 to 2:46:20

AJ talks about the pressures of performance and expectations in the NFL.

Lighthearted Conversation on Bathroom Habits

2:46:20 to 2:48:00

A humorous discussion about unconventional bathroom habits.

“on the boat with you you might catch a bunch of fish like me and big cat you might catch a fish like Max.”

Bathroom Sink Discussions

2:48:00 to 2:50:09

The hosts discuss unconventional bathroom practices humorously.

“There's got to be a bathroom downstairs.”

Fantasy Draft vs Birthday Parties

2:50:10 to 2:55:30

Debate over the importance of fantasy drafts versus children's birthday parties.

“Later this month, my husband will travel to an Airbnb in the mountains for three nights of our fourth fantasy draft.”

Sports Rivalries in Relationships

2:55:31 to 2:57:42

Discussion about how sports allegiances can affect relationships and parenting.

“In our talks about the future and children, this is something that I brought up.”

Quickfire Numbers Game

2:57:43 to 3:00:14

A fast-paced numbers guessing game among the hosts.

“Yeah, sorry for anyone who thought it was 84.”
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3:15Big Cat:Yeah, hard knocks happen. You can set your watch to this exact week every single year. Our excitement for Hard Knocks and then our disappointment once we remember that, oh, yeah, Hard Knocks is just going to be like a 45-minute commercial for whatever team they happen to be profiling because otherwise no teams would ever do it and the NFL wouldn't allow it. So we saw football. We saw some nice slow-motion throws. We saw Deion Dawkins driving like a maniac, putting his kid in a drift seat. I didn't know that they made drift seats and child seat versions. That was awesome. And they like ice cream.

3:52Big Cat:Yeah, that's my hard knocks.

3:53PFT Commenter:It was every time we get to this point in the calendar, I do get excited because hard knocks does hold a special place in my heart because it usually is. We always do the football is back football is back. I know the Hall of Fame game, but this is really like, oh, hard knocks. Like you're watching them in camp. They're talking about the season. It feels like it's all coming around. but yeah it's really just and especially because the bills are good that's that's the difference like usually they would not let playoff teams in uh i did like the it was probably about 15 of the 45 minutes was just like josh allen is the greatest human ever that was cool uh and then yeah the ice the ice cream was probably the big takeaway tredevious white uh very bad cone management but otherwise that ice cream looked incredible and then the only other note i had was dawson knocks uh salute to you very relatable moment where in front of his wife he packed his bag and just jammed everything in and then his wife's like well you can't do that let me do it and then she perfectly packed the bag for him like that was just genius move by him because everyone does throw everything in there and it's all wrinkle it like it almost i the way i pack as i'm putting my clothes in there they get wrinkled like they get wrinkled on touch of the suitcase and then and then the wife comes just like here dawson let me just do this for you and make it so it's perfect so great job i know what you're doing dude it's a yeah it's a classic trick oh i don't i don't have

5:17Big Cat:any idea how to pack this suitcase what do you mean my t-shirts are going to get rakely i don't understand what you oh you want to do it oh that's awesome you're so sweet i bet they've been married for less than two years that seems like that seems like a relatively newlywed thing i i will always love hard knocks i usually like it when the coach gets up and you get to see a little bit of personality from the coach giving the welcome to training camp speech and they just like rip into something because they've had all summer to prepare we saw that with rex ryan we saw that with with everybody for the most part every team i mean even last year iberflus i was like maybe iberflus has the pulse of this team leader of men question mark but this it's bullshit that they didn't show the sean mcdermott training camp pop-up speech especially if he had like the redacted 28 pages that he was going to talk about but like you know what i'm talking about like when he's talking to the team and he's like screaming at them and getting them fired up that's what i love to see out of out of hard knocks and training camp and we didn't get that so i'm a little upset

6:13PFT Commenter:yeah yeah i wish you hadn't just said eber flus's name because i actually was thinking about that while watching this i was texting uh my friend john greenberg who does great work on the athletic and saying like remember when basically hard hbo tried to pitch to everyone that eber flus was a cool guy who totally was competent. That was last year's hard knocks for how the Bears season went was basically triumph of the will. That was just straight propaganda. It was as propaganda as it gets. But at least the bills are good. I will say also the new stadium looks awesome. The wind shit, Hank, that had to fuck you up a little.

6:52PFT Commenter:Although maybe would you say that confirms wind isn't real or they had to do the science. Weather isn't real. Weather isn't real but wind is. wind is real but weather isn't real for over-unders weather isn't okay okay so i mean they designed

7:08Big Cat:the stadium when it came when they showed the stadium i was like i hope they talk about how it gets the wind out and then they spent the next six minutes talking about the science behind it and how it's engineered to like absolutely make it still to play playoff games in which i think is probably good for the sport but also the wind didn't really seem to affect josh at home

7:29PFT Commenter:no no but you also have to think this is a stadium that they're building for the next 100 years josh allen's probably not gonna play for another 100 years yeah but uh classy move by josh call mr pagula the whole time too i love that yeah when a grown man calls a grown man mister you have to when it's the owner especially when he signed that big check yeah yeah all right what

7:51Big Cat:are the other two things you had all right two other things aj epinezza absolute psychopath crazy caught a snake with his bare hands wait aj happen as a psychopath that dog is the craziest

8:06PFT Commenter:dog of all time he has a dog that barks when he sees a snake like the whole time i was watching yeah get that dog away from the snake no but the dog is trained to hunt snakes well not even to

8:19Big Cat:hunt snakes the dog is trained to locate snakes and be like hey hey hey dad there's a snake over

8:25PFT Commenter:here come get it i know what you're saying but i'm saying like i watched that clip i was like please get that dog away from the snake that snake's gonna kill the dog i think i think the

8:36Big Cat:dog knew what it was doing and i think it has trust implicit trust in its owner like if i was that dog's owner and it saw a snake that dog would get the fuck out of there and be like hey let's bounce yeah but i'm not i'm not like a six foot three linebacker that's jacked up and then he goes over there just grabs the snake an 11 foot long snake how is how is that even possible

8:59PFT Commenter:uh ask hank the ai videos hey hank did you see that river with the anacondas breeding scary there's there's about never going there 60 000 anacondas that this drone shot got looks so real and the giant anaconda oh yeah and the big one at the end that one was real that one was so real okay what was your other note

9:22Big Cat:My other note, Bills fans, turn off the podcast. Or just fast forward like 30 seconds right now if you're a Buffalo Bills fan. I'm pre-sad for Bills fans. I'm pre-sad. Because it is just – it's great to watch Bills fans. I love Bills fans. They're great people. They love their football team. Like this is – you don't have to go out of your way to make propaganda showing that Bills fans are awesome people. Yes. but the belief and the hope that they have like this is our year we're finally going to get done we're doing it for all the old guys that made four super bowls in a row didn't win a single one i'm i'm pre-sad for them and i hope that i'm wrong i i hope that i'm wrong but i am pre-sad

10:06PFT Commenter:bills fans are the best uh the uh it was it was also actually cool being because we were there two two years ago three years ago um i like that the bills do do it old school at a like small college dormitory there's what they say five five uh teams in the entire nfl do that so i i like that and we we got to see that we were there we're in the dorm room so i know this is dumb brain shit but i was like oh shit i know i know what that looks like i was also there yeah i know it's nice

10:42Big Cat:that place exists that's a real spot i know it because i pooped there yeah i know that's really

10:48PFT Commenter:stupid but it really like if you've been somewhere that that's that is then on tv you're the whole time you're like oh shit i know that place i also yeah i saw that once uh hank your review okay good job hey and yeah i i love hard knocks and football's back okay every year i love i love this first episode It reminds me so much that football is back. Zach, your review. And it will be the last episode I watch. You're muted, Zach. But it looks like you're making a great point. I think that Hard Knocks is about to get so hard knocked. Okay. And that I hope the best for the Bales as well. So what was your favorite scene?

11:42I have been hearing a lot about this. ice cream sundae that was being made. Possibly that could be constructed at a later date. Okay. Did you have a favorite spot, Big Cat, where it popped off the page a little bit?

11:56PFT Commenter:No, I think my favorite spot is PFT and I are going to gift you an HBO subscription. So we're going to get that for you, because we know we're going to get two of them. Yeah. I appreciate that, guys. I can try to lock in with... I know my brother might have one, so maybe I'll hop in there. I should have done that earlier, but that's on me. Okay. Can we get a quick visual of your apartment? It looks nice. This is me at the desk. We've got TV or bed.

12:33Big Cat:Wait, sorry. That's a sick TV setup.

12:37PFT Commenter:That's a nice place. Desk? Yeah. Oh, the double monitors. Look at that. Whoa. Oh, my God. I like that. Look, I know, but so functional. OK, where would you eat the McDonald's? Right here. OK, nice. This is where all meals are consumed. Yeah, this is it. This is the chair. How many hours a night are you sitting at that desk? Most of the hours until I go to bed. Like a Saturday, like a full Saturday. Nice Saturday this past weekend. It was beautiful out. majority of my hours which which should it's gonna i'm gonna do less hours but a lot of hours right now no there's not that fuck it it's so many hours it is it is be yourself all right what are you gonna say pfd well the one thing that we learned when we were at bill's camp was

13:27Big Cat:they spend most of their time when they're not practicing just straight up playing video games against each other that's like the only thing it's basically like college i think that hard knocks after week one should just be them streaming playing each other in video games i would love it

13:41PFT Commenter:I would love it that would be that would be more interesting that would be a better show yeah I'd agree okay what else so we taped the rest of the show in studio do we have anything else besides the fact that the NFL is banning smelling salts and we got to stand on on the soapbox for our guy George Kittle because it's bullshit and let me just say this first they come for the NFL then they're going to come for podcasters and some of the best episodes of this show have been after we've done smelling salts yeah they're trying to outlaw dudes rocking it's crazy it's crazy is the is the nhl gonna have to now too like are they forcing other other leagues i don't know i read a little bit about it yeah

14:24Big Cat:smelling salts give you concussions what i gathered some of the symptoms or after effects of taking smelling salts inhaling ammonia salts are similar to the after effects of concussions yeah like if you just rip a smelling salt you're not going to do great on an iq test because you're just feeling like how jacked you are so i don't know if they did the test like 30 seconds after 10 seconds after five minutes after but i don't know all i can say for sure is i've ripped probably 400 smelling salts in my life and i turned out fine yeah it might be

15:03PFT Commenter:the Bill's game against the Texans last year. Do you remember when Josh got hit and then he did the swelling salts and he was very concussed and he came back in? Could have been that.

15:16Big Cat:But I do stand with George Kittle. I think you got to listen to the players on the – you can't – you know what Goodell is probably doing? This is probably one of those things where he's getting ready for the next CBA already. He knows they don't have a union, like a union head. they've got an interim guy he's taking away smelling salts and then he's going to say i'll give you back smelling salts if you play an 18th game yeah yeah something's going to cut

15:39PFT Commenter:something's coming out of the the player's paychecks or livelihoods and then you're gonna get smelling salts back and they're like this rocks i i will say shout out uh red bird rizzy he had a good idea he said let's hypothetically say i get a sideline pass for every game and keep keep a pocket full of salts pocket smelling technically isn't illegal so if george kiddo just goes and smells this guy's pocket every single before every single drive that's

16:04Big Cat:not illegal or fingers do this have a guy soaking his hands in the ammonia and then going up be like smell my finger face masks made out of smelling salts yeah we can get around this we gotta figure

16:18PFT Commenter:out a way around it yeah yeah i think we're just i mean you're just going to the blue tent i guess that see nfl you've now made it even more confusing because now guys have to go in the blue tent do the smelling salts and then you don't know if they're concussed or not that's your fault roger and would you rather have them doing it in a safe location not behind closed doors yeah i would agree yeah let's let's just be honest give every team give every team like an x uh allotted amount of salts and they can they can divvy them up how they want i like that yeah i agree starters only well I like that because then you could basically be like at the end of the season you're like oh shit the Ravens got a big game in Kansas City but they're they've used all their smelling salts how do we handicap that you have to think about it yeah and you have like some no salts games

17:12Big Cat:against cupcake opponents and then you then you that's when you bet on the underdog yeah that's how you imagine taking it seriously yeah the trash talk in college football being

17:22PFT Commenter:like we're not even gonna use our smelling salts on you we know that we'll beat you no matter what yep this is we'll open some doors all right do we have anything else yeah there's a couple things

17:33Big Cat:okay it's death chart season yeah the first death charts have come out there's really nothing to to take from any of them except for the saints and browns depth chart they listed all three of their quarterbacks as first teamers they've got three starters i know if you have two quarterbacks

17:51PFT Commenter:you don't have one but what if you have three that's tough that's tough i don't really know

18:00Big Cat:memes isn't on this call is he no he's not okay i was gonna ask for a custom meme where it's the dragon the dragon meme where two are great and then one is like goofy but all three are goofy i like that good one for them and then uh the other news that i had was that uh espn acquired NFL Network. Obviously, we talked about the red zone a little bit already. So they have NFL Network. They have that entire thing under their wing. Now they're going to let the NFL Network keep producing some of their shows. But also now the NFL, as part of this deal, has a 10 % equity stake in ESPN. So the NFL now officially owns ESPN, as opposed to in the past where all they could do was let's just go ahead and give them all their shittiest games for Monday Night Football and make them do whatever we want them to do, then we'll start trickling out good games to them.

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18:51Big Cat:Now they officially have a 10 % ownership stake in ESPN.

18:56PFT Commenter:Yeah. Florio's all over this.

18:58Big Cat:All over this.

18:59PFT Commenter:So just remember it. Remember it. Just think about it.

19:05Big Cat:I'm glad that Florio's all over this. But I don't know what differences we're going to see, but I do think that the NFL is going to make it way less likely for other media companies to conduct interviews with NFL players. That's what I think.

19:24PFT Commenter:Yeah. I mean, it's like what we said on Monday. I think that ESPN will not rock the boat to start, and then when they have to make more money, they'll start shoving ads, and then we'll just be screwed. And we'll be like, well, we have – The problem is they have us. That's really what the issue is with all these big conglomerates and big companies joining forces, they got us. They got us. We're going to watch no matter what. They got us. We cannot do anything except complain on Twitter. And we will, but they got us.

19:58Big Cat:The smelling salts might be a bridge too far for some people. There's definitely one guy out there that saw the smelling salts news and was like, fuck it, I'm out. They can only push a man so far.

20:07PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. The NFL's gone woke. No smelling salts. But then maybe there's one person who comes back because they're like smelling salts killed my father. And now I can watch the NFL again. The only other thing I had was that I'm turning into Frank Fleming because the Cubs season is spiraling right now and the Brewers never lose. And I literally have been saying, I've been repeating to myself over and over, the Brewers never lose. And I wish I had something to chew on because I'm getting that frustrated. They're on a 119-game win streak clip. like the like from May 25th on I think they won they're like 44 and 16 so it'd be a 119 winning season they just never fucking lose they never lose all they do is win they never lose Buster only's head smiling yeah yeah it's all happening okay oh yeah and Schwarber should be MVP because he hit but we talk about that a little bit later he did hit two home runs on Monday night they were fucking mammoths uh all right we got hot seat cool throne a must listen hot seat cool throne because Hank's back uh Mount Rushmore skills we wish to learn when we were younger Kevin Clark in studio NFL preview great interview with AJ Brown and guys on chicks loaded show let's go still blue coffees new can lattes are here crafted with 100 % Colombian coffee each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors espresso cafe mocha and espresso so sweet cream.

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23:09Big Cat:Yeah? Okay. We got more news about this? This might be a... No, we talked about... Wait, wait, wait. You know what this is? I think this could be a new segment. Hank's recap of the last part of my takeout. Yeah, yeah. It's the Speedway Classic. Whatever. We talked about it Sunday. My hot seat is... Yeah, we did. I know we didn't. No, we did. We did.

23:30PFT Commenter:No, no. I want to hear what the Speedway Classic won. It was a disaster. Yeah.

23:36PFT Commenter:Listen, you were here in body. I know. Yeah. Your body was... Mind, spirit. Body was physically in the room. I was reading more about it yesterday, and I really wanted to emphasize how bad of an event it was. Yeah. I do like this. This Wednesday show, Hank recaps the weekend. My other hot seat. I don't know if it's Shams or Giannis They're in like a back and forth Shams keeps saying that It's not set in stone that Giannis is coming back Even though Giannis has made it very clear That he's coming back Time and time again that they would have to kick him out He's not going to leave He's subtweeting Shams Being like anyone miss Woj I like that a lot But Shams reported again That it's not set in stone And he could be leaving At this point, if Giannis just stays in Milwaukee for his entire career, he retires a buck.

24:27PFT Commenter:He is a one-Jersey guy. Will he be the most hypothetically traded player of all time? Absolutely. Already he might be. It's crazy. I can't think of anybody that would even rival him. I feel bad for Bucs fans just having to deal with this all the time. It doesn't feel like it's gotten ever really close. This would be the closest we've ever been, but Giannis is out there saying, I'm not leaving.

24:48Big Cat:Yeah, it was Dame Lillard. I think he was the number one hypothetically traded guy until he did go to Milwaukee. But yes, it's definitely Giannis. Let Milwaukee enjoy Giannis.

24:58PFT Commenter:Yeah.

24:59Big Cat:It's crazy.

25:00PFT Commenter:So he's subtweeting Shams? I like that. Subtweeting Shams. I feel like Shams is not someone who would appreciate that. He's probably silently kind of - That's why he's tripling down. Yeah. He refuses to give it up. Yeah. Giannis. Okay. It's not subtweeting. It's gyro-tweeting when it's Giannis. A cool throne is Dildo throwing in the WNBA Oh yeah I mean man

25:26Big Cat:I actually had that on my hot seat Because there's an update about Dildo games There's an update about the Speedway Classic What was the update? It was a disaster Even more of a disaster The more things come out the more you think what a terrible event it was You're a funny guy Hank They should have had an actual NASCAR race going on during the baseball game. That would be awesome. I was talking to Quiggs about this. He said that NASCAR is trying to implement an electric race so it wouldn't be so loud so that they could do that while they were doing the baseball. I don't know how I feel about the electric race.

26:04Big Cat:Next thing you know, we've got electric lawnmowers, electric power washers. It would be impossible to do the normal race. It's so fucking loud.

26:11PFT Commenter:This is one of my ideas for Arlington Heights and the Bears because it used to be a horse track. They should build the stadium and then a horse track around the stadium and all the seats. It's glass and all the seats are swivel. So you can just watch the game commercial, turn around, watch the race.

26:27Big Cat:Yeah, I like that. I like the idea of a dual-use stadium being used for two sports at the same time.

26:32PFT Commenter:Like a football game's not enough for you? Well, we got a horse race going on every time there's a break in the action. It's literally just the ADD stadium.

26:39Big Cat:Whatever the next generation is. What is it, generation beta?

26:42PFT Commenter:Yeah, the betas are here.

26:43Big Cat:Yeah, the betas are here. My kids just missed beta. Their attention span is going to be so low that they're going to need probably three sports going on at once. Yeah.

26:50PFT Commenter:So let's get some dual sports going on. That'd be sick. It'd be so sick if they were just, yeah, they're like, hey, here's a commercial break, and here's a race, and you just turn around. Boom. You can bet on it. It's everything. Just figure it out. Yeah, awesome. Good hot seat, Hank. Thanks. Yeah. A couple hot seats. Extra work. by cool throne is i have a couple of these two marsh madness okay yeah ncaa voted not to expand the tournament thank you safe for now yep it's coming don't expand it yeah this is the trouble

27:25Big Cat:it is i agree with hang they put this out there being like hey we're not going to do it knowing that now it's they moved the overton window yeah now we're talking about the expansion and next

27:34PFT Commenter:year they're probably going to let it in it's not a ridiculous idea anymore because they've gone all way to a vote yeah like the tush push they'll probably ban that next right exactly that's how they work these things or like the the commercials they're gonna put on red zone on espn yeah that's gonna happen okay uh then my other cool throne is my francessa slash the giants giants and giants although kind of i don't know the original clip it's a mike francessa old radio clip it was on WFAN. Can we play it? Yeah. Find it. It's so funny. It's so funny. The guy calls in. He's like, hey, you ever think the since the San Francisco Giants used to be the New York Giants, when they're ever in town, they do a lunch or something?

28:15And Francesca hated the call. Was disgusted by the call. Dan and Warwick. What's up, Dan? Hey, Mike. I just got a question about the Giants. In your years or experience, have you ever seen how the San Francisco Giants were once the New York Giants. Has there ever been either a franchise to franchise or maybe even player to player get together when San Francisco comes to New York? Like, do they ever say hi? Maybe, I don't know, go out to dinner or something? What are you talking about? Is there ever any interaction when the San Francisco Giants come to New York or vice versa? The San Francisco Giants come to New York and do what?

28:55Have a game. They play against the Mets and what do you want to happen now? Did the New York Giants ever reach out to them, either the players or the franchises? The football Giants? Yeah, the football Giants. Well, what is the connection between the San Francisco Giants and the football Giants? Well, they used to be in New York, and they got the same name. But they have nothing to do with each other, though. There's no connection. They have different ownership. There's no connection between the two teams. I mean, there's no connection in any way between the two teams. they have no relationship.

29:31Do you think because their giants are like brothers or something? That might be the weirdest question I got in a long time. I mean, that might... And I think that's an honest question. That might be the strangest question I got in a really long time. Yeah, as a matter of fact, they have the giant picnic. They hold it over in Totowa, I think it is. And then they have the giant relay race and the giant raffle. and then they all get together for the giant breakfast the next morning, and then they go their separate ways. It is true. It's a July weekend every year when it happens. Yeah, and then the Rangers in Texas and the New York Rangers have the same thing.

30:13They meet usually in Abilene and have that in August every year. Lundquist is particularly close to Udavish. As a matter of fact, there's a kinship there between the two of them. And they did an actual giant San Francisco Eli Manning. some players from the San Francisco Giants meet up.

30:30PFT Commenter:What was the caller's name? Do you remember? Someone in Warwick. Because I saw he came back on. WFAN had him on yesterday, and I guess he was not funny and not, like, with it, which is crazy. So, all right, this is one of those videos. It's one of those things that's funnier when Francesco was not. Now that he's in on the joke, it's a lot less funny.

30:50Big Cat:I agree. And I like Mike Francesco. I think he's obviously a titan of sports talk, and he seems like a good dude. never met him but i know he's been in the barstool new york office a bunch seems like great guy but it is funnier when he's like oblivious to the callers trolling yeah that was the beauty of his

31:06PFT Commenter:show i liked it i thought it was hilarious uh the only critique i had is it's it it was a promo for eli's show i wish it was just like they're just like hey let's make long are the days that they just make funny videos just to make funny videos yeah so but i thought it was hilarious and it's also a very funny like full circle 10 years uh princess it was the best they got to do something with spider-man i was listening back to yeah i was listening back to the uh call of the guy who just kept on calling him michael that's so upset i like the one michael michael stop saying michael the harambe one is the funniest one of all a gorilla oh let's play that one yeah a gorilla was in the cave with a gorilla.

31:53Big Cat:Or the guy who says... It was Deezus' tweet, right? That was like, this guy dropped a hard R on gorilla. Yeah, I think this was on the radio.

32:01PFT Commenter:Mickey Mantle. He was talking about Mickey Mantle winning the triple crown, and the caller's just like, how can you win the triple crown? He's not a horse. And he's like, you waited four hours to say that? Can you find the Harambe? Is that not it? There was a gorilla.

32:15Big Cat:A Jason Giambi, Mike Francesco made up would go crazy.

32:18PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah.

32:19Big Cat:That'd be good. Do you have the gorilla? I don't think this is it. I also like the one where he just lists Jacob DeGrom's run support. Yeah. And he just says numbers for five minutes. Zero, one, two.

32:32PFT Commenter:There it is. You're a child in there? You're going to have people who are going to say, wait a second, I'm worried about the gorilla? When your kid's in there basically maybe seconds from having his head crushed? we live in a world now where you are going to be more concerned with the gorilla than you are the little boy what's wrong with you people they're thinking about me he fell into a an area where he's in there with a gorilla who is dragging him around the habitat and you're telling me you're worried about the gorilla's welfare that's great radio shout out fun house what's wrong with you people he would find the funniest fucking things oh man good job great riffing great awesome cool thrones great to have your back great work from sunday that's what we do here bits and sticks and jokes do you know when you're putting up like a tony snell yes I didn't know I don't know if you walked away on sunday's episode being like nailed it I'm awake The moment I had it was when I said someone needs to throw a pocket pussy on NBA.

33:48PFT Commenter:And I go, hey, I'll secure. You go, no, that was a pocket pussy. I was like, we don't got him. There's nothing going on here. Physically. Mentally, where were you? Rufus to soul still. Yeah. You essentially were like in a coma and we went to see you last rites. That wasn't my worst. That was like a – but it was definitely Snell. It was Snell Stabbs. It was Snell Stabbs.

34:10Big Cat:There's really no difference between Hank and Mincy on Monday after a big show. No, it's Sunday, and this is a problem. It's summer. Summer's coming to an end because I don't really do it in the regular season. I'm old now, and Saturday is like Saturday. The regular season. You did a double dose of Rufus DeSole on Saturday. I like that. Saturday, going out on a Saturday, I can no longer do it. I'll be hungover Monday. I've been having two-day hangovers this summer. But it is summer and it was the perfect

34:41PFT Commenter:Last weekend was the perfect Chicago Events going on Weather, just everything You went to a Rufus DeSol concert And then you went to another Rufus DeSol concert You chased it with a Rufus DeSol concert I was soling it up That's a tough Saturday For any of you Was that at Lala? It was at Lala and then at a club You just followed Rufus DeSol around? Yeah, I met him I'm at Dew of Rufus DeSoul.

35:11Big Cat:I might do that during Riot Fest this year. Riot Fest looks awesome. Shout out to John. They want to come on. Great guys.

35:16PFT Commenter:All right. Love it. Okay, PFT, your hot seat. I can't follow that. Tough to follow. I can't follow that one up. Tough to follow.

35:22Big Cat:Speaking of zoos and deaths in zoos, my first hot seat is a zoo in Denmark. There's a zoo in Denmark that's running low on food for some of their animals. So they're asking people at home, if you have any pets that you're looking to get rid of, bring them in. and we can euthanize them and feed them to our animals. What the fuck? It says you have a healthy animal that has to leave here for various reasons. Healthy? Yeah. Because you can't feed a diseased animal. Oh, let me sacrifice my healthy animal? Yeah. Feel free to donate it to us. The animals are gently euthanized by training staff and are afterwards used as fodder.

35:58Big Cat:That way, nothing goes to waste, and we ensure natural behavior, nutrition, and well-being for predators. The zoo says it accepts donated rabbits, guinea pigs, and chickens.

36:07PFT Commenter:That's what I was going to say.

36:08Big Cat:Yeah, on weekdays between 10 a.m. and 1. There's a death drop-off zone that you have to hit between 10 a.m. and 1 p.m., but no more than four at a time.

36:16PFT Commenter:Our brains immediately went to dogs and cats. Dogs and cats, yeah. And that's not what the case is. That's not the case. Obviously, but yeah, that's still fucked up.

36:24Big Cat:But if you have a rabbit, do they accept turtles memes? How is Mr. Parrot doing?

36:28PFT Commenter:Yeah, give us an update on Mr.

36:29Big Cat:Parrot. Haven't heard from Mr. Parrot in a while.

36:30PFT Commenter:I got a turtle that hibernates. So he doesn't pick games? He's going to. We're going to make him pick games. Should we? I don't want to put more work on your schedule, but should we get a rabbit? Also pick games? If we don't like it, we can take it to the zoo. If we just do a tortoise and a hare on every game would be interesting. If you can handle a rabbit? I think rabbits are much more difficult to keep alive. Maybe another turtle so that Mr. Pear can chill. That turtle can pick games. Yeah. And a rabbit. We need something out of our animals. So I don't know if it's getting a rabbit, waking Mr.

37:13PFT Commenter:Pear up, maybe getting Mr. Pear on some TRT. I don't know. We got to do it.

37:19Big Cat:Mr. Pear is going to pick every single football game this fall.

37:21PFT Commenter:Mr. Pear is a chick, too. I just remembered that fact.

37:25Big Cat:So does Mr. Pear have a better record on certain games, like Thursday night, Sunday night, Monday night? I think Thursday night. He went 500 for March Madness. Can we sort the data, though? That's not good. That's flipping a coin. Can you do that? Can we sort the data on what night of the week he was best on? Yeah. Because he's telling us. He's telling us where his sweet spot is. We need some picks. Okay.

37:49PFT Commenter:And you might have to get a rabbit. The rabbit. We can't get a rabbit. Why? Keeping a rabbit alive and healthy requires significant time, effort, commitment, similar to owning a dog or a cat. Rabbits are not easy. Okay. We can't do that to this rabbit. Why don't we just... What if we get a turtle and call it rabbit? Another turtle and call it rabbit. Okay. Get a lobster. Or does Mr. Pear need a friend? Mr. Pear could use probably... I feel like another tortoise.

38:23Big Cat:What if we just got a rabbit and let the rabbit live inside Vanny Woodhead? That's the rabbit house. That rabbit would die so quickly.

38:31PFT Commenter:probably get out oh my god memes you can't send that memes just sent a face swap nope

38:37Big Cat:nope you can't do that memes nope across the line memes that's like day that's day one meme

38:47PFT Commenter:stuff right there all right sweet but denmark's fucked up we need a rabbit yep okay that's what we got a turtle named rabbit a turtle named rabbit any any animal named rabbit does anybody

38:59Big Cat:that works here have a rabbit already? Somebody's got to have a rabbit. Like for the kids. Sidney Wells probably has a couple rabbits. Sidney Wells probably does have a rabbit.

39:11PFT Commenter:Oh, Brandon brought a rabbit under the back like a month and a half ago. He has a rabbit.

39:15Big Cat:Brandon does? Yeah. We should just use his rabbit. But he lives in Wisconsin. Yeah, but he could film it at his house. He could, but I want to see the rabbit next to each other. Films the videos. Yes. And then, alright. Or what if? Yeah, Memes could do that. What if that was our college football animal for Brandon?

39:34PFT Commenter:But Brandon does have a sneaky zoo going on. Yeah. He's got a rabbit. He's got two birds. He's got some gerbils. Just basically anything that is in a video for like a second here just goes to Brandon's house.

39:46Big Cat:He's got that one fish in his lake. Yep. That he catches.

39:51PFT Commenter:Yep. Well, actually, he doesn't even catch it. It's just on a leash. Yeah. I feel like when you're a country, you won't even consider that having animals. Yeah, I only have a rabbit, two gerbils, and a dog. I don't really have animals.

40:02Big Cat:I do have a ton of rabbits that live right outside my house.

40:05PFT Commenter:Yeah, no, the street rabbits are real. I'm always scared that a street rabbit's going to run into my garage late at night because when you get into the alley, they see the lights, and they'll just run in front of your car zigzagging, and I'll open my garage door. What do I do then? I don't know. Get the rabbit out of there? No, that's your rabbit now. I've come close a couple times. You have to keep that rabbit. I think those rabbits are not. Rabies? Well, no, they just live in the alley. They can't be super clean.

40:35Big Cat:They're badass rabbits. The rabbits that I have outside my house will stare down Blake and not move. Just be like, come get some, bro.

40:41PFT Commenter:Well, and they survive Agent Orange chemical warfare once a month when they nuke the alleys for the rats. So those rabbits are legit. it. Okay.

40:55Big Cat:My other hot seat is the dildo thrower, the first dildo thrower who has been apprehended. His name is Delbert, which is an A plus name for a dildo thrower.

41:05PFT Commenter:Awesome name.

41:06Big Cat:So he got arrested on Saturday. He was the one that threw the dildo during the Valkyries Atlanta Dream Game. And he's 23 years old. This guy, he faces charges of disorderly conduct, public indecency slash slash indecent exposure and criminal trespass. So they're throwing the book at him. They're trying to make an example out of Delbert. So actually, Arian brought up a pretty good point yesterday. We were saying that it might be the WNBA that's engineered this. He's like, this is actually a sign. It's a bellwether that the WNBA is doing well, that you have fans that are throwing dildos. The more toxic your fan bases get, the healthier your sport as a whole becomes.

41:46Big Cat:All this stuff.

41:47PFT Commenter:All the discourse, everything. Yeah. The hate. That was my whole point with the Angel Rees, Caitlin Clark, when people get upset about it and make it this crazy thing. It's like, this is good. This is rivalry.

41:58Big Cat:You wouldn't go out there and spend$39 or$40 on a neon green dildo and throw it onto a court if nobody was going to see it. Correct. It's a tree falling in the forest situation. My cool throne is death. Cool throne death. because Mike McDaniels in a press conference yesterday said that today's a great day because we're one day closer to death. I saw that. Do you think things are going well with the Miami Dolphins right now?

42:23PFT Commenter:Bad vibes.

42:24Big Cat:Yeah. I don't. What was his message behind it? What was his reason? Can we play the clip?

42:30PFT Commenter:Yeah. Bad vibes. Bad, bad vibes. We're going to do a preview with Kevin Clark in a minute and I think we talked about that bad vibe. I guess if you're a if you're a Christian man

42:40Big Cat:being one day closer to heaven is not a bad thing right yeah he's accepted it that's a bizarre way

42:46PFT Commenter:to phrase that though yeah that doesn't say like confidence in your quarterback no like you're looking forward to you'd rather be dead it's basically like i'm looking forward to death right like i have to go through practice today but you know on the flip side i might die sooner zach taylor like sean mcdermott uh andy reed they wake up and they're like thank god i'm alive so i get to coach this guy again. Yeah. Okay, we'll play the clip. You should stand corrected. Good morning. False. Great morning. Let's go. Oh. Hmm? What makes us wonder? Because we're another day closer to death. Oh. So he actually is taking the approach of he's ready to die.

43:31PFT Commenter:Ready to die. Not afraid to die. Yeah. That sounds like something. Death would be better than having to coach the Miami Dolphins. He didn't think about what he was going to say until one second before he said it. Yeah. And then he probably finished it and was like,

43:42Big Cat:I think maybe the last conversation he had was with Tyreek before he went out there. And then that was the first question got from the reporters. Yeah. Yeah.

43:50PFT Commenter:Yeah. Okay. My hot seat. And we are going to talk a little bit about this in a different way with Kevin Clark. But my hot seat is Brian Schottenheimer for the Dallas Cowboys because he has shown up to a press conference with a backwards visor. Colin Coward is not happy. He said he didn't get the memo on how head coaches are supposed to dress. He bumped them down four wins. They're a two-win team now in Cowards Analytics.

44:14Big Cat:They're going to win more than two games. But the backwards visor is concerning.

44:18PFT Commenter:It's a bad look. Yeah. That's like I just got off the golf course and I'm hammered. Yeah, that's also like he doesn't fully understand that he's the head coach yet. He thinks it's maybe just like he's getting pranked.

44:30Big Cat:Maybe he's trying to do like a distraction thing. maybe he's doing a little phil jackson make the conversation about the coach instead of about the player smart i know what i'm gonna do i'm gonna wear a visor backwards i know that people are

44:41PFT Commenter:gonna talk about it yeah the visor backwards doesn't like the backwards hat does play in certain circumstances i don't know if the backward visor has ever played it's a coordinator move yeah yeah he's still stuck in coordinator uh my other hot seat is um myself and everyone in this room and maybe maybe maybe someone can explain it to me but uh did you guys see the the woman who was hired by espn katie feeney who is that so she used to work for the football team oh for a while okay she was in charge of like doing their do you know her stuff she's a lifestyle creator yep but i saw this hire and i was like i'm sure you know hopefully she has all the success in the world but didn't know who she was at all i still i've seen her videos when she did stuff for the commanders people are mad online i don't penn state i mean getting mad about this is weird yeah yeah it's like she's gonna probably do content that you if you're mad about this you probably will never see your content i think there's a work for football teams right like she's been doing sports i was more like shit should i know who this is i don't know no she's

45:44Big Cat:been like kind of behind the scenes but she uh yeah i guess she gets results listen if you can do social media and get numbers for uh sam howells washington commanders well that's actually

45:55PFT Commenter:Yeah, that's true.

45:56Big Cat:Then you're probably doing something right. I saw a lot of people getting mad because they're upset that ESPN is going towards this type of content instead of their traditional intelligent content, such as having Shannon Sharp and Stephen A. Smith scream at each other for four hours. I don't think it's going to take away from that. You're still going to get that at ESPN. I do like the people who bring back traditional SportsCenter.

46:20PFT Commenter:Obviously, I love traditional SportsCenter. How would it work when you can get every single highlight instantly? Bring back the world that that was in. You can take a shit and watch the top ten by scrolling Instagram. Right. Like when someone hits a home run, you see it within four seconds. Kyle Schwarber, NL MVP maybe.

46:37Big Cat:Good point. So many. That's a good point, and it's directly related to this conversation. Yes. Exactly. It is crazy. I wasn't surprised by it. She's been – it's not that crazy of a hire. It's more crazy to me that, you know, talking 10 years ago, 15 years ago, that ESPN has shifted towards us.

46:59PFT Commenter:Yeah. Oh, yeah. And not the opposite. Oh, yeah. Like, that is just crazy when you think about, you know, 10 years ago. Where we are, yeah. Look at Barstool. Look at ESPN. In 10 years, ESPN is going to be doing moves that, like, Barstool would do in hiring people in that world and not, like, traditional sports. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's a good point. because I, like I said, I was like, I don't care. I'm happy for anyone to get a job in a very tough business, but I just didn't know who it was. I was like, should I? Did I miss this?

47:27Big Cat:I did not. I was not like super familiar, but I knew that she, I'd seen some of her stuff before. Got it. But I don't know what she's going to be doing. Like when ESPN puts out a press release saying, we're hiring somebody to do lifestyle content. Yeah, they had to have known that press release was going to, like having Shetzer tweet that out was crazy. Lifestyle content. But that's also why people are waiting for like trade deadline and like NFL news. and it's like, what?

47:47PFT Commenter:That's also the funny part of it to me because my reaction was, I don't know who this is. I'm not going to get upset about someone I don't know who it is. Whereas a lot of people are like, I don't know who this is and now I'm upset. Like, what? You have no idea. You could have great content. You have no fucking idea. See? And the internet's free. And the internet's free. Don't follow. Yeah. Don't like it. Don't watch it. Don't go on TikTok. My cool throne is college football fans because we have our first coaches poll out now. Yep. And that's great because people can talk about how they've been left out, where they might be.

48:20PFT Commenter:We have Texas 1, Ohio State 2. That will be week one in Columbus. Penn State 3, Georgia 4, Notre Dame 5. Stack top 25. Illinois 12, by the way. And Arizona State 11. Those are some notable ones.

48:36Big Cat:A lot of great logos on that top 25 right there.

48:38PFT Commenter:Yeah, SMU, Kansas State, Indiana 19.

48:42Big Cat:LSU make or break year for Kelly.

48:44PFT Commenter:I'm excited.

48:45Big Cat:very excited for college football people are saying jmu might be in the college football

48:49PFT Commenter:playoff this year you go um all right and then also my cool throne is uh our former colleague uh mantis because he finally completed his 100 free throws in a row which was an insane so mantis did this stream he's done before a couple years he didn't finish it he didn't complete it this was the first time he actually did it that he actually completed so the the the rule was he has to hit the 100th free throw blindfolded i the 100 free throws aside he shot uh 6 000 free

49:18Big Cat:throws he was shooting 95 from the line yeah it's crazy it's insane that event one of the best moments was when we brought him in as a ringer for our free throw stream and pat bev was there and just like what's going on right yeah and he's just wet up 20 uh zach you got some hot seat cool thrones i do yes sir my hot seat today is the uh river city mall in san antonio texas yep There was an injustice served. Duke Dennis was arrested unrightfully. Who's that? A gentleman on the internet. AMP. AMP. Any means possible? You guys familiar? No. Yeah. Internet collective. I am, but Hank's not, so you should explain who he is to Hank.

49:54Big Cat:I can do that. Duke Dennis would be, I would say, one of professional cool guy, if we're going to go in layman's terms. Also fantastic streamer. Okay, there it is. There was an injustice served. He was just trying to play hide-and-seek with the boys out at the mall, and he was arrested for playing hide-and-seek with the boys.

50:11PFT Commenter:For playing hide-and-seek? Yes. He may have... There were conflicting reports that maybe he tried to flee arrest, but I chopped it up to him being in hide-and-seek mode still.

50:21Big Cat:I don't think he was trying to evade police. He thought it might be some stream snipers dressed up as the cops. He was just in that mode, yeah.

50:28PFT Commenter:And I just think it was an injustice. Can we... I'm going to throw out an idea. I would love to do it maybe next year, Grit Week. I would love to do the... You ever see those trainings where you have to hide from SWAT team or the police and they use real humans for trainings? No. Imagine us doing that. It'd be so sick.

50:48Big Cat:Like practicing hiding from a SWAT team? Yeah. You have a certain amount of time to hide. What were we going to do for the office?

50:54PFT Commenter:What were we going to do? We had one of our security guards was a cop or a higher cop. We were going to get SWAT to come in for... And they were going to do a training. No, they were going to do a training. and we were like, they were asking us if we were cool with it. Me and Macarney were like, yeah. And they were like, can we just not tell people in our office? I was like, no. And they're like, yeah, you can't do that. But we were like, it would be so funny to actually. We said, can you not tell people? Yeah, we wanted to get the footage. Yeah. People freaking out just to see what the simulation happens.

51:24But yeah, they were like, absolutely not. But it would have been very funny.

51:29PFT Commenter:Very funny. All right, so yeah, I want to play hide and seek professionally as a show. Was he just going to hide?

51:34Big Cat:Was he being really good at hide-and-seek? Is he an excellent hide-and-seek player? A big guy got some height on him. I don't know if he's picking the best spots, but you've got to be at least putting it all on the line to get arrested playing hide-and-seek. So he was just going all out there. I'd like to play hide-and-seek. Was he hiding too good, and they thought it was a missing person, and then they found him? I would have loved that. I don't think that is the case. I think they tried to spin it into a disturbance situation, but you can't get too rowdy playing hide-and-seek. You're trying to be quiet.

52:01You're trying to be coy. how do you guys think you would fare in a bounty hunter hide and seek situation

52:06PFT Commenter:I think I'd be pretty good at it I want to say I'd be good I feel like I would go in with a great plan being like holy shit they'll never get me I think I would get caught yeah I think it depends on the setting it's like tennis like if it's in a mall or if it's like outside in the woods it would depend on the setting like tennis well yeah like clay, grass you can play good on clay some people can't play good on grass

52:30Big Cat:Zach, are you saying like in a actual like bounty hunter is trying to find you somewhere in the country situation or just in hide and seek in general? No. Yeah. Just a bounty hunter leading the hide and seek. Not in like a you're a wanted man situation. But I kind of like that, too. If you want. Yeah. Should we just like. So you're saying commit crimes and then see who can go on the run the longest? Well, just see. You don't have to commit the crime. You can do like simulate committing a crime and then simulate the bounty hunt. We're recognizable. Yeah. But the beauty of having long hair is you can other countries can transform.

52:59How are you going to get to the other country? I don't know. I just watched Batman Begins last night, and he just... Honestly, when he just decides to leave, he just starts running. It's very funny. Yeah. What if I just, you know...

53:09PFT Commenter:Start running and never turn back. Yeah. What are you going to say, Max? How do you transform?

53:14Big Cat:Cut the hair. Maybe cut it real short. I think people still know it's you. If you got a fake beard, you'd be unrecognizable. Unrecognizable. Jacked up. I get strong. I would wear shoes with, like, six-inch lifts. And I could shave my beard. If you shaved your face, no one would know who you are. If I shaved my face and grew out my hair.

53:34PFT Commenter:These are things that take a long time. That's actually true, though. If I were to shave my face and cut my hair, you guys would have no idea.

53:40Big Cat:Yeah, but you'd be arrested just based on your look. Correct. People would be like, I don't know what that guy's up to.

53:44PFT Commenter:Why is he talking with his hands? He must be Italian. Put him in prison. Yeah, we should try to figure out a way to do it. I'd like to do it. It'd be a fun video. Yes, sir. I'll try to find some bounty hunters. All right. And then your cool throne? My cool throne today, voted on by roughly 1 ,100 of his peers. Baker Mayfield has made it to the number 50 spot on the NFL top 100 list. Let's go.

54:04Big Cat:After not being on the list, so math tells me next year he's number one.

54:08PFT Commenter:Yeah.

54:09Big Cat:That's true. Yeah. If he keeps improving. I believe so.

54:14PFT Commenter:Are we worried about his hand?

54:15Big Cat:Hand contusion, but he's back at practice today.

54:17PFT Commenter:He's a dog. Who did you sign? I know that we took Teddy Bridgewater out for a workout. I'll tell you, Bridgewater. And then also honorable mention there, top 10 quarterback in Madden as well for Baker.

54:30Big Cat:So a little bit of a great list week for him.

54:32PFT Commenter:Okay. That is good.

54:33Big Cat:Who are the top 10 quarterbacks in Madden? So the top 10 quarterbacks in Madden are number one spot, Josh Allen. Number two, Lamar Jackson. Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Matthew Stafford, Jared Goff, Jalen Hurts, Justin Herbert, Baker Mayfield, and then Jaden Daniels rounds it off at 10.

54:51PFT Commenter:Okay. Okay. A little different than Max's. Noted. Noted. Do I owe him a car? No, this one is according to coaches, executives, and scouts. He's going to get traded.

55:02Big Cat:Did that what? Oh, you're talking about Jaden? Yeah. I think you just gave it to him, didn't you? Did I actually give him my car?

55:09PFT Commenter:Yeah.

55:09Big Cat:How did that clip turn out? Because I thought when I walked away from it, I thought maybe I don't owe him my car.

55:13PFT Commenter:No, I think you do. Well, but you also could owe Max your car. You may need to buy another El Camino. Should we talk about it or do we not want to jinx it? What? PFT said something very scary to me this morning. What did he say?

55:25Big Cat:It's his preemptive hot seat, yes. We should talk about it. All right, so Hank is doing a great job being CEO of Golf Operations for PFT Enterprises. He's been all on me, begging me to stop working and to start playing more golf, which is his primary job. It's a week away. A week away. So we're going to go out. We're grinding today. I'm going to grind all week on the course. We're going to make a trip to Harborside Golf Course this afternoon. Yep, shout out to Harborside. It's about 30 minutes away, would you say? Maybe an hour in traffic? 30 minutes, no traffic. Highway driving. I forgot that I was going to have to go on the highway when I left to come into work this morning so I brought the El Camino in it's going to be a test it's going to be I put it 65 % chance I get there 65 % chance why don't you go with Hank I kind of want to embrace the Shane's going to have to go it's a quest I'll drive behind you it's a quest I might have to stop for gas twice on the way to get there yeah if you listen if it breaks down on the way i will call a tow truck and i will have them just pick it up and drive it to ashburn virginia and leave it with a note on it being like here's your car jaden have fun oh man that's that's nerve-wracking yeah we'll see that's that's it that's exciting i know i'm actually pumped about it uh that was your cool throne right Yes, sir.

56:46PFT Commenter:Okay. All right. Good hot seat, cool throne, boys. That was great. Great hot seat. Hank's so back. We're firing. So back. All right. We're going to do our Mount Rushmore before we do that. Hey, dude, what better way to kick off football season than with the official shoe of tailgating? Hey, dude, is your go-to for every game day look. Easy to slip on, effortlessly cool, and built for all-day comfort. We wore our Hey, dudes all week long during Grit Week from the bus to the field. To every interview in between, our Hey, dudes didn't miss a step. If they can survive grit week, they're more than ready for tailgate season.

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57:53PFT Commenter:Okay. Mount Rushmore time. Mount Rushmore of skills we wish we learned when we were younger. Skills we wish we learned when we were younger. Do we need to talk at all about Queen Latifah? Queen Latif is a great pick. I don't know if that was a great pick.

58:13Big Cat:Racism is alive and well.

58:15PFT Commenter:Okay, you're going to go that card. Wow. Okay.

58:18Big Cat:No, Queen Latif is a great pick. It's a funny pick. A great pick? I thought it was a good pick. Because you loved her work in... Barbershop.

58:29PFT Commenter:Okay, nailed it.

58:33Big Cat:Okay. It was a very... The closest Mount Rushmore of the season. Yeah, it was crazy. Is what, like 0.3 % separated first from second? Yes. Quad box was the right pick. Quest was the fun pick. And Big Cat got in my head. He was like, just be fun. And quests are fun. But if I was thinking in a bubble vacuum, quad box was the smarter pick. All right. That's on me.

58:55PFT Commenter:If we switch Quavo with quad box, we would have won easily. Yeah. Yeah. But you also didn't have quad box on your list.

59:02Big Cat:We absolutely had.

59:03PFT Commenter:Oh, you did? I thought you had it. I wanted to pick it first, potentially.

59:06Big Cat:That is between quad box and quest at the end. Yeah. That's what PFT was like. Yeah, I like the two choices. But you got to go with what you like. Yeah. No, I know. I know. You can't pan. Quests are fun. Quests are fun. But yeah, whatever. Ten years from now, people are going to look back at that pick, underappreciate it at the moment. It's going to be like Tom Brady. Yep. Sixth round pick. Hell yeah. Greatest of all time.

59:27PFT Commenter:All right. So who's up first?

59:30Big Cat:We are up first.

59:31PFT Commenter:Okay.

59:32Big Cat:And I believe Big Cat and Zach took the lead in Rushmore. Okay, but it's all within like one point. One, one, one.

59:39PFT Commenter:Okay. We're down two, down one. Down two from first, one from second. Go. Skills you wish you learned when you were younger. Correct. Yes. Okay. We have the one, one. Yes. We are going to go with money management. Okay. Good pick. Still don't know how to do it. Put in your mattress. I assume this is, okay, yeah. High yield EBTAs. It's hard. you don't know what that means wouldn't it be nice if you knew that at a young age

1:00:11Big Cat:if you start a Ponzi scheme that's great money management not if you join one but if you start one yeah and this is definitely me just bad learner but like I don't think learning money management when I was young and had no money I don't know how much that would have helped me

1:00:32PFT Commenter:if that makes sense Yeah, it would have probably helped.

1:00:35Big Cat:Just get a bunch of mayonnaise jars. Because it's everything. It's like budgeting your money. It's not just financing your money. But then I kind of take the Mike McDaniels method of thinking. We're one day closer to death, so just let it rip. Yeah, let it rip. But you also still don't know. Bitcoin. Max, can you break down what you said by it's not budgeting, it's financing? I said it is budgeting. like money man i looked up what money man i had to look up what money management means and it's and it's oh we're that far away we're that far away it's all of the encompassing which is really like unclear on what it means which part is it the was it the money or the man i think it's probably the management part i think you know what money i know what money means it's a management part you know what a baseball manager does what what's confusing about it is the process of planning direct wait oh yeah planning directing and controlling financial activities such as budgeting saving investing and spending i wish i oh yeah that i now do you know i wish i knew it better i know what it is i wish i was had a better skill of it when you break down your budget what do you spend too much money on food yeah food and drink

1:01:51PFT Commenter:budging off vibes is always a bad you get in a bad spot yeah it's what there are like things out there where you can go back and see your budget and that's bad. Yeah. That's bad when you see that. Yeah.

1:02:05Big Cat:Do we think if you learn to budget too early, you're like boxing yourself out? Like if you're learning to save money too early, you're missing life experiences on the stupid things you would have done with your money. You are. Yeah. It can be the smart thing to do, but it's not always the funnest thing to do. Sometimes not having money makes you want money that much more.

1:02:24PFT Commenter:Oh, you're on your Gary V shit right now. Go off, King. I mean, it's... I don't know how much... Wait, start the TikTok clip right now. Go. Well said. Well, no, I don't want to... This is going to get cut. This is probably going to have to get cut. No, no. What? It's good. When you're gambling and you get down and you lose a lot of money, it makes you want to get money back that much more. Whereas if you save it and you're responsible, then maybe you're not as hungry.

1:02:55Big Cat:Yeah. Every morning I wake up, I light$1 ,000 on fire just to make myself go out and earn it. That's what you have to do to be successful. Yeah. Yeah. You got to feel the pain. Yeah. And then it just feels that much better when you rise up.

1:03:06PFT Commenter:Every morning I wake up and I suffocate a small animal. Watching their last dying breath, that makes me say, hey, you know what? You do have to post more on Instagram today. I walk my dog to the zoo and say goodbye. All right. Good pick. But it's very funny that you don't know money. You have to Google money management. That's exactly right. We're far off. That's exactly where I'm at.

1:03:28Big Cat:Yeah. Okay. Okay. Is that, that's us? Yeah. All right, Hank, I'm going to take - All you. I don't, you got it. All right. I got this. I got this big time. One, one for us. I'm going to go with fixing cars. We had it. Knowing what to do, how to fix a car. Not just for my personal, this could also be foreshadowing for my drive later on today, but it's something that like some people that grow up in families that fix cars. as your dad teaches you how to fix a car. It becomes second nature to you. You can figure out what's going wrong. The five things that you can try to manage on it. I never learned any of that stuff.

1:04:04Big Cat:I learned how to fix a flat tire, and that's pretty much it. And jumpstart a car.

1:04:09PFT Commenter:Yeah. Okay, that's a good pick. Ours is similar, but a little just not car specific. I think we should go with our first pick is going to be basic handyman work. Yeah, we have that on the list too. I really wish I was good with my hands. and just being able to do shit. Man's man. Man's man. Never learned it. Now what do we do?

1:04:34One? Yeah, one is a great pitch.

1:04:38PFT Commenter:I feel strongly about one. One or 13, I'm in for both. And I actually think Hank's going to agree with this. Fuck. I wish I learned how to golf when I was a kid. Yep, that was on the list. I see someone with a golf swing from when they were a kid, and it's like they have the basic tools that they never – they're just always consistent. I did not play golf as a child. I did not play golf until I was in my, like, 20s. god damn it do i wish i'd had a golf swing since i was like five years it would be nice i did a golf camp one summer when i was you know kid and i like played well and left the camp and was like mom golf is so boring i want to play baseball like i i never i'm good with golf and then now it's all i do and it's like i it's all you think about yeah yeah and imagine it because you know what i'm saying when you see someone who's like i've been playing since i was a kid they have they just have a flow to them where it's like they trust their swing because they learned it at such a young age.

1:05:33And people that if you were ever able to score, like let's say you were ever able to shoot in the 70s or ever able to shoot in the 80s, even if you don't play a lot. Like I'll play with the guys like, yeah, I've only played a couple times this year, but they play when they were younger. They can go out and shoot in the 80s. They can go out and shoot in the 70s. Like if you've ever been able to shoot a low score, even if you're not like in form, you can kind of get back there. Whereas like if you're trying to get down, it's just a war.

1:05:57PFT Commenter:And here's a message for everyone out there. Guess what? Riding a bike overrated when you become adult. Whoa. Golf is way more useful. Facts. Like, I would trade being able to ride a bike for being able to golf well. Instantly. Obviously, riding a bike as a kid is very fun. But from age, what, 16 for the rest of your life, being able to golf better than riding a bike would be awesome. Did you know there's a coworker that we have here that has never ridden a bike? oh man i do who is do you know do you know who it is i don't off the top of my head someone people would know oh yeah oh yeah i do i do i do quigs quigs oh never never ride a bike also he probably doesn't think bikes are real like he's got something he said he just like never learned as a kid and he was like he got to he got to an age where it's like you can't learn to ride a bike as as no he needs to just go he needs to like have someone close to him go teach him in a parking lot like we were we were going somewhere this this weekend and i was like oh yeah it's a quick bike ride and then like as i was saying it i was like you don't know how to ride a bike so we'll take an uber zach how do you feel on a bike i feel good on a regular bicycle okay all right because i was gonna say the motorcycle yeah okay you guys had that as one of your picks

1:07:11Big Cat:yeah yeah yep we did uh all right so it's us again yeah i'm gonna go the top of the list love it cooking cooking being able to cook really nice meals for yourself max just said it i mean it goes with this money management my my budget if i looked at it which i don't because i don't want to be depressed is is the amount of money i spend on food and when you buy groceries you buy like 60 worth of groceries that last your week yeah get one or two meals on on uber eats or postmates 60 bucks i've gotten cooking being able to cook well like i can cook sometimes if i have

1:07:44PFT Commenter:to like uh you think you would if you could cook well you would actually cook yes i don't the time

1:07:49Big Cat:thing is an issue yeah i have waves where there's no way i get really into cooking and then i run out of time meal prep you if you could cook well you wouldn't be sitting down being like i'm gonna cook tonight absolutely okay becomes passionate okay it does like after a long day it's nice it can be relaxing it can put you in like a better mood when you go home i agree i agree with everything you're saying but it's tough to find the time for it no you think hank would go down

1:08:11PFT Commenter:and be like hey hey guys like uh can we wrap up the show early i got a i got a souffle i'm working on tonight.

1:08:17Big Cat:I think if he had a lady over, I think he might. Maybe. If I was good at cooking, I would want to cook more. Obviously. It's like golf. It's like anything. If you're good at it, you're like, yeah, I want to do that.

1:08:27PFT Commenter:I still think cooking like dishes and all that stuff. There's a part of cooking that just kind of sucks. I like the cooking part. You save so much money.

1:08:36Big Cat:The cooking part of cooking is great.

1:08:38PFT Commenter:Sometimes it's not even... I feel like I look at it, sometimes you've got to buy so much shit.

1:08:42Big Cat:I like grilling. I love grilling. I love grilling. It's a different sport.

1:08:47PFT Commenter:Totally different. Good pick. That's Ben shit. Good pick. Thanks, man. Ben shit. All right. You guys got two. No, it is a good pick. I just was more pushing back on you saying you would cook all the time if you knew how to cook well. I don't think that's true. In the summer. That's grilling. The off-season. I do grill a lot. Grilling is different. Okay. We are going to go with playing an instrument. Good one. just you know i i see pft in here playing the guitar all the time yeah and i just think about like how cool it would be if i learned how to play play the guitar and it's one of those things that everyone like as an adult tries to do yeah they're like oh i'm gonna pick this up can't do it you gotta do it when you're a kid or else you're never gonna do it yeah pft gave me lessons for like

1:09:31Big Cat:three weeks and i think i learned like four notes yeah you you need that age when you're like 12 to 15 where you don't really have that much else going on at your house where you can just like chill in your room and play guitar that's where you really learn uh what what would you do guitar

1:09:46PFT Commenter:or would you go i feel like piano piano would be yeah it's those are the two things that you can it's it's very cool to be at a house or party or show up somewhere and it's there and if you can sit down and play it like it's cool like when i was very young i like i did like the snare drum in my elementary school band and then i really i quickly realized when i got home it's like You can't play any – there's no songs that you can play on a drum.

1:10:14Big Cat:Right, you just make noise. So I remember I would go up to my mom and be like, do you know this song? And it was just like nothing. It was just like sounds. But yeah, no, guitar, piano, any instrument would be good. Good pick, we had it.

1:10:30Big Cat:Third pick. We're going to go with social skills. Oh, nice. Just in general. I thought we agreed on something.

1:10:40What social skills? I thought we were going to go. You said that one. I know. That was the funny pick.

1:10:47PFT Commenter:Memes similar to Max having to Google money management. Have you at any time Googled social skills?

1:10:53Big Cat:I think it's just small talking shit. Yeah. Right? You're not much of a small talk guy. Yeah, you're not a small talk guy.

1:10:58PFT Commenter:No, I'm a quiet guy.

1:11:01Big Cat:You pointed that one to pick it. I pointed at the first one. Wait, what was the first one? We're not going to say that. You literally pointed that one to pick it We agree that we could get that one in the last round You could have gotten that one in the 20th round You're talking to guys on a podcast Yeah, I think that's a good pick

1:11:22PFT Commenter:Okay Hank, PFT Zach, get ready There's a couple C's Zach, before they go, think 14 Think Hank, I'm going to go with one of the C's, and then I'm going to go with... Well, we only have one, but I like whatever C you like. 10, 14, and 35. Go ahead. Okay. I'm going to go coding.

1:11:49Big Cat:Coding AI. Coding AI.

1:11:51PFT Commenter:Wait. Is it pick coding or coding AI? But how would you have learned that younger? I guess coding. Coding. Coding. Coding. iceberg ai thing is crazy yeah coding though in itself i think is going out like i think there was a story i read that like computer coding is like done well no people are using ai to help

1:12:13Big Cat:them write code but still if you know how to write code you're you're pretty much going to have a job for the rest of your life like i had a bunch of people that i was friends with that were in like the computer sciences departments at some schools and i was like this sounds like the most boring shit ever and they hated every minute of learning how to do it but they will never be unemployed yeah

1:12:33PFT Commenter:okay Zach what are we thinking

1:12:34Big Cat:how do you feel about 14

1:12:37PFT Commenter:14 I like I think we get freaky with it I think we have fun with it I think we go 10 and 35 social skills social skills it's a funny one I like 14 but hold on like the question is so it would be appropriate for you to pick kid, I don't know if I could claim that I could have learned it when I was younger. I also know that's something you learn, social skills. You do.

1:13:02Big Cat:You can learn. You think you just have them? I don't know. Everyone's just, like, Memes is talking shit in a muted mic back here to you, Hank. I said 100%. You definitely learn. I was a quiet kid. Memes, should we hire a social skills coach for you? Good. Like, Hitch?

1:13:20PFT Commenter:What if we go 10 and 14? 10 and 14. Do you think 10 is the most extreme form of that? Yeah, I think it's... Listen, I wish I knew it. I wish I learned it. Yeah. All right, go 14 first and then 10. Okay, so we would like to take with our third pick how to buy Bitcoin. It would have been really nice to learn that. Oh, but we can't pick coding AI? I mean, Bitcoin's been around for like 15 years. How to buy Bitcoin? You go to a website and you just buy it. this is mine

1:13:51Big Cat:yeah what this is investing

1:13:54PFT Commenter:alright fine no no no no

1:13:55Big Cat:how to buy Bitcoin no you picked money management not investing good point investing is just a small part of money management we could

1:14:02PFT Commenter:if it's not if it's not fair because of the AI thing that's fine we'll take it off no you know what

1:14:07Big Cat:no no no no Zach Zach you can retract you can yeah you can retract

1:14:12PFT Commenter:let's start from the top of this

1:14:13Big Cat:you're telling us to that's on me how to buy Bitcoin

1:14:17PFT Commenter:alright we have two funny ones that we that are probably not going to do well in the graphic if you want us to retract.

1:14:22Big Cat:We'll go crazy ones. No, I think you guys picked how to buy Bitcoin. I think that's a fine pick. I don't think that there's anything really terrible about that at all.

1:14:30PFT Commenter:I think you're not being honest. You guys think it's going to suck on the graphic?

1:14:33Big Cat:No, I thought Max objected unfairly to it by saying that it's not money management.

1:14:39PFT Commenter:I would have been nice if someone taught you how to buy Bitcoin 15 years ago.

1:14:43Big Cat:That is true.

1:14:45PFT Commenter:That's investing. That's investing. You didn't pick investing. You picked money management. That is part of money management. No, it's not. Investing is how to take your money and invest it. Money management is having money and how to manage it. It's the exact same thing of me just saying how to play an instrument and you saying how to play guitar. No, that's different. It's the same thing. No. How is that different? Also, buying Bitcoin is complicated. It would be like how to play an instrument, and then it would be like if you took learning how to play Freebird. That means you imply you already know how to play guitar.

1:15:16No. Good point. Good point. If you want to learn how to play Freebird, you know how to play guitar. That was a horrible example. You know how to play guitar, and you want to learn a specific song. Max, as the only member -

1:15:24Big Cat:You're saying you want to learn how to play guitar. As the only member of Part of My Take who has kind of played the Freebird solo, Hank is 100%. He's right. There's a huge difference between wanting to learn how to play guitar and then wanting to learn how to play a song on guitar because you already know how to play guitar. Also, Max, if I took coding, I'd be like, oh, well, that makes you money, so you're just taking money management, too. Good point. How to get a job. That is way different. How to get a job is the exact same.

1:15:45PFT Commenter:Also, buying Bitcoin is difficult. I'm talking about... No, it is not. Yes, it is. Go on Cash App and buy Bitcoin. You're going to go on Cash App right now. ... .eth's accounts just blowing you up, being like... All right, our last pick is karate. Okay, fighting. I wish I fucking knew karate. Dude, imagine if someone came at you and you're just like, bro, you don't want this. I'm a black belt since I was seven.

1:16:09Big Cat:Yeah. Karate. Jiu-jitsu would be cool, too.

1:16:12PFT Commenter:Just fucking people up with your hands. I wish I knew karate. I really do. You guys like that? Yeah, we can get a teacher. No, because I wish I... That's kind of like the golf, where it's like, if you knew karate when you were young, and like, you like... It's also like a guitar. Everyone did karate at some point. Yeah, it's like... No one stuck with it. No one did. No one. It's like, I wish someone had said, hey... Yellow belt. Stick with... Imagine if I was just walking around today, and I was like, a fucking plus two handicap and a black belt. My life would be way better. Yeah. Way better. Yeah, the idea of someone It's the idea of like, you know, when you're in your 20s And like, maybe someone's stepping to you And you're just being like, buddy I know karate You don't want to do this I will fucking kill you with three moves

1:16:58Big Cat:Don't step the big guy, he knows karate

1:17:00PFT Commenter:He knows karate, he's a black belt I like CC, PFT

1:17:04Big Cat:Nope, we're not going to do that Oh, come on, we did karate No, this is more of a karate one Hank wants me to take a Oh, okay A boring one What? Yeah, it's a boring one. What? Shut the fuck up, Hank. Our final pick is going to be... What? No. What? Say it. No, it's not boring, but I'm excited for what you're going to pick.

1:17:27PFT Commenter:Have fun. Go for it, partner.

1:17:29Big Cat:Throwing in knuckleball. Ooh, I like that. Throwing in knuckleball would be... If you worked really fucking hard on it, and you just got to the bigs, and you weren't able to pitch for like 25 years. I like that. And nobody could figure out how to hit it. Yeah, I like that. Anybody, because it's one of those things where I know this is probably 100 % wrong, but I think anybody that really dedicates themselves to throwing a knuckleball will make it to Major League Baseball. Yeah, agreed. That was one of my original, original, like, I don't even think. Get rich quick schemes? Yeah, I said this to Dave at one point.

1:18:00This was when I was like 20, and I was like, I feel like if you just send me to a cabin with a coach for a year.

1:18:07PFT Commenter:I could do it. To be a knuckleball, I could make it to the leagues. And then by the time I was like 27, it was probably, I think I've talked about it on the show. Yeah. It reached an age, but there was like three or four years where I was like, if you guys want a content idea, I think it was before this show. I was like, if you want a content idea, just send me to the woods with a knuckleball coach, and I'll come back. It was the idea before mini golf? Long before mini golf. That was, yeah, mini golf was after I got into golf.

1:18:31Big Cat:Even if you didn't make it to the pros, just being able to toss a sick knuckleball when you're hanging out with your friends would be awesome. Make them look idiot like idiots.

1:18:38PFT Commenter:All right, last pick. we are going to go with yeah we're going to go with carpentry for our last pick I watch a lot of DIY stuff on TikTok have you ever been to a basement where there's a wood shop I'm not going to argue yes I did carpentry is like that's a full blown profession that you have to learn not at all

1:19:04Big Cat:I picked minor home repairs this is the major of the repairs. We can fix anything. No, just wood. No, actually you can't fix anything. No, actually you couldn't

1:19:15PFT Commenter:fix anything because it's just wood. Carpentry is just wood. If the water heater blows out, I can fix it. You can't. No, that's major repair. You're minor. No, no. I said handyman work. That's exactly what you call a handyman for. No, I said handyman work. A water heater fix is the definition. I mean, my pick was handyman work. No, we said minor home repairs in our list Oh, fuck

1:19:43That's where you got mixed up

1:19:44PFT Commenter:Alright, cool guys, you guys can build us some stairs Awesome I'm not even saying that, I'm saying Building tables and shit They just took Jesus Alright Let's do honorable mentions I got some ones that we're throwing out Is counting cards boring? I love that one we had on our list how P.A.T. saying it was boring was crazy it's more boring than knuckleball Zach had that one no it's not it's illegal you're not going to get thrown in jail or thrown into the basement of a casino for throwing a knuckleball if you're really good at it maybe what about yeah it's like fixing a game how do you guys think magic would have played bad yeah don't really care no if you have like two or three magic tricks that you can always go to that's kind of cool I would rather be a mentalist.

1:20:34Big Cat:Learn mentalists like us. Yeah, that's cool.

1:20:37PFT Commenter:What about, how do you think the pick? And my guy at the Super Bowl. The rules to intentional grounding. I know those. I wish I'd learned it when I was younger, though. Yeah. Because there still are times where you're like, is it? Is it not? Yeah. Even the refs don't know. Also, infield fly.

1:20:52Big Cat:Yeah. I love it when a softball calls infield fly. He's like, I've trained my entire life for this moment. Yeah. What about just talking to chicks?

1:21:00PFT Commenter:Social skills.

1:21:01Big Cat:Yeah, it's one of the social skills, but being really good at picking up chicks. Yeah. Good skills. Negging.

1:21:08PFT Commenter:Yeah. We had public speaking, so I guess similar social skills. Cook the perfect steak. But Hank, you do - Cooking. No. You would never do it. What? We all established that we grill all the time.

1:21:23Big Cat:We do grill. You said cook. Yeah. Cook the perfect steak. Big Cat made a great steak when we had our steak off. on the grill on the pan make the perfect steak

1:21:37PFT Commenter:we're in honorable mentions dude

1:21:40Big Cat:Microsoft Excel that would be a good one to know I've said that I'm proficient on every resume that I've sent never once have I approached proficiency

1:21:50PFT Commenter:I'm so far from proficiency it's like the old when Brian Scalabrini would be like I'm closer to LeBron than you are to me Yeah. Like, I'm closer to, like, a rabbit than I am to a proficient at Excel. Yeah. That's how far away we are.

1:22:07Big Cat:One time I was working at a job and somebody sent me a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet. And all I could think about was, like, you were actually putting the entire business in jeopardy by even emailing you. Yeah, because I'm going to fuck up a cell. Yes. What about dressing nice? I kind of like that one. I mean, I'm like an adult. I pretty much got that already. Just knowing.

1:22:25PFT Commenter:You learned how to dress when you were seven and then you kept it.

1:22:28Big Cat:Yeah. It's a good listen. Once your parents stop dressing you, it was that was it. Zach had spearfish would be cool.

1:22:39PFT Commenter:Yeah. If we're ever on Survivor or on an island, we're just we're dialed hunting.

1:22:44Big Cat:I think hunting and fishing in general. I thought in practice, like being a boat guy in theory is would be great. But in practice, then you have to be the boat guy. Yeah. So that's that's why I kind of just a general.

1:22:57PFT Commenter:Yeah, also like guy who knows everything Kind of, like boat guys Boat guys, car guys Yeah, they kind of all are the Yeah, fishing, hunting, it's all Tie a bow tie Probably only has happened like three times in my life But we had to do the YouTube video every time Did you figure it out with the YouTube video? I think one of my friends figured it out And then tied all of our bow ties

1:23:17Big Cat:You gotta have one guy on the crew that knows that I remember I literally tried for like two hours At a recent At a recent Wedding And then somebody had to like Drive to the house that I was at To do it for me because I just couldn't figure it out What about being able to sing Learning how to sing I thought about that but like what does that really At this point of your life It's like tone deaf people will never learn that No but it's like Junior Soprano When he just starts singing out of nowhere And people start crying you're like I had no idea this guy could sing That guy's also a little bit of a try hard That's true

1:23:50PFT Commenter:It probably says something about us as a podcast That we didn't pick learning a new language which very incurious. Who cares? We had it on our list and we're like, what do we do? I'd much rather be able to fucking do karate than know Spanish. Building a table would be fun. It's fun. You guys are second guessing.

1:24:12Big Cat:I had to build a table as a Quaker guy. It's part of my rite of passage into adulthood. I bought a table at Ikea. I assembled it. There we go. Built that shit. Drive a stick shift. Is that real? Yeah. That's like you have to build a table. You have to build a sturdy table.

1:24:28PFT Commenter:And you did it with Ikea?

1:24:28Big Cat:I just bought a table. That's smart. I put it together. Who is judging? Ikea is tough. Who are you building the table? It's for yourself. It's about yourself. Do you guys see those DIY guys on TikTok who build overhangs over their patio and shit? It's the coolest thing ever that a man can do. Yeah. That's when you're actually a real adult man. Yeah. That shit is so sick. Yeah, like going into like a dad basement and you just see a wood shop in there is so sick. So sick. We had calories.

1:25:07PFT Commenter:Oh, okay. Learned calories. Yeah. How credit cards work kind of like your pick, Max. Credit cards work would have been a good one. I went on Weight Watchers in the sixth grade. I didn't really. I didn't know if that was. I didn't have a credit card until after. Wait, what? I went on Weight Watchers in the sixth grade, lost 30 pounds, so I learned calories early. It didn't help. Then you ignored them. Correct. Yeah, I mean, exercise. Now I'm getting back. In general. Still, you know, that didn't help either. What about whistling with your fingers? Oh, yeah, yeah. I wish I knew how to do that. Put them in your mouth and then, yeah.

1:25:41PFT Commenter:That's just a real, like, man thing to be able to do.

1:25:44Big Cat:Give one of those. Yeah. Like the dog's running away. Along the same lines as throwing a knuckleball, I had long snapping. Just practicing long snapping. I feel like you'd have a job for life.

1:25:55PFT Commenter:Yep.

1:25:56Big Cat:Zach, what else did you have? I think being able to dunk would be, I would use that for the rest of my life. Yeah. You can learn that after. Yeah. After you're young. I got no shot. Yeah. No. You should try.

1:26:09PFT Commenter:We should do a video series. What about dancing? Dancing we had on our list would be cool if you were at least a decent dancer. Especially with TikTok nowadays. If you committed to dancing every day, you'd be a lot better off. I feel like an obscure Olympic sport would have been good. Luging? Something that if you dedicated your life to as a child, you could be an Olympian. Curling? Yeah, something like that. I got one that, oh, do we say jumper cables? I think I know how to do it. That's an easy YouTube look. I think even with no phone, I would be able to jump a car. Here's one that's going to maybe get some side looks, but just like floss, the importance of floss.

1:26:55PFT Commenter:Okay. Still don't really. Should probably floss more. I know how to do it. It doesn't mean I do it more. Speaking of which, I got to fucking call it. Yeah. It's like the calories thing where it's like, I kind of wish they had really hammered that into my head that you got to floss. Throw you in on me calling the dentist. Yeah just add my name Add my name to it Actually add me too Alright The dentist is bullshit I went last week I had no problems with my teeth They said I had a cavity They filled the cavity And now two weeks later My tooth hurts like shit Okay so The one that they filled I gotta call the cat Yeah my mom had me Have you been to the dentist

1:27:28Big Cat:Since you've been to Chicago I was like I'm going Monday I have scheduled two dentist appointments But I canceled both of them So that counts for something PMTV

1:27:38PFT Commenter:Let's go to the dentist No We need a Oh get the No we need a We need a stoolie dentist. I thought you were going to say the Dave Dentist guy come in. No, we need a stoolie dentist. Let's get a stoolie dentist. Hit us up. You got to be in the city of Chicago. I do need a dentist. And you guys are going to be like, you don't want a stoolie dentist. I had one in Brooklyn, and he was the man. Because they don't just – you still have to pass dental school. So it's not like they're, you know, idiots. I'm cool with a stoolie dentist if he tells me my other dentist was a piece of shit. All right, perfect.

1:28:10telling me I had a cavity. Let's get a dentist. Giving me a cavity.

1:28:13PFT Commenter:Someone hit us up. All the PMT boys will show up. We're all going to get our teeth cleaned. And like probably 10 cavities. And learn floss. Can I still get mine cleaned Monday? Nope. No, you gotta go with us, bro. Okay. Alright, Good Mount Rushmore. Any others? Anyone have any others? That was it for... Splitwood. We had there. Chess. Chess is a good one. Chess would be cool. Although I feel like I did learn chess when I was young. I just forgot it. But that's also something, too. If you're really good at chess, how much you're going to use it later in life because people won't want to play with you.

1:28:47PFT Commenter:Right.

1:28:48Big Cat:I learned how to do the four-move checkmate, and then I was like, that's all I need to know in chess. I'm just going to run this play, and then if they stop me, I'm fucked.

1:28:55PFT Commenter:Zach had driving through a roundabout, so that just tells me he does not know how to do that. Yeah. They're just not... They're regional. You run into them in different states, so you haven't encountered them before.

1:29:05Big Cat:But they're all the same rules. What do you mean they're regional? No, some places don't have... Yeah. They're big in Europe

1:29:12PFT Commenter:But they're the same rules So that would be like a left side roundabout So it would be opposite too

1:29:17Big Cat:It depends on what country Who drives like us in Europe? I think France I think the only countries that drive on the wrong side Are England and Ireland Germany And maybe Australia Weirdos Yeah Australia does You know that? We drive on the lift You've been there? How's it you? Oh, nice. Hank, ask me if you drive on the right side of the road in Australia. I'll do an accent. Drive on the right side of Australia. Nar. I love the nar.

1:29:51PFT Commenter:Nar. Nar. Okay. Let's get to our interviews. We have Kevin Clark in studio, and then we have a great interview with AJ Brown from Eagles Camp.

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1:31:06PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, friend of ours, never been on. Never. First time, it is Kevin Clark. You can watch This Is Football on ESPN2. He's everywhere. He's plugged into the league. He's been traveling around all summer, so we're going to get some intel, maybe a little preview. Football's almost back. He also moonlights as a Geek Squad member at best. So let's start there. Stephen A. Smith said that you're a member of Geek Squad from Best Buy. You gotta fight him, dude. So, the content he was being complimentary of me. He said you're doing a great job. He had to do a little dig.

1:31:47My dad, so an awful announcing aggregates it and says everything now. They said Stephen A. gives Kevin Clark his full endorsement dot dot dot even though he looks like a member of Geek Squad. Okay? So my dad forwards it to our entire family and just lops off the second half of the headline. Which was amazing. But no, I can lean into that. That's fine. I can do the geek stuff. I'm into the numbers stuff. So I'm good with it. I don't have to fight him. All right.

1:32:15PFT Commenter:He's tall. Yeah, you should have just challenged him because I don't know if he's about that. I don't know if he would have stood on that business. I don't think Stephen A. Smith fights anymore. I think he's got people that would do that. Imagine if you beat him up, though, because then his whole fight with LeBron looks really foolish. You kick the shit out of Stephen A. Smith, and next time he tries to be like, yeah, LeBron, if you come at me like a man, it's like, dude, Kevin Clark beat your ass. I'd probably get beat up.

1:32:39Big Cat:That'd be my guess.

1:32:40PFT Commenter:Come on.

1:32:40Big Cat:That'd be my guess. Who is a more demanding person to work with, Stephen A. Smith or Peyton Manning? Well, so I've only done two episodes of Stephen A. It's been amazing. We haven't even been in the same room yet. Peyton is a - Sounds like he's really close. No, no. They're both forces of nature. like they're both so like Peyton the reason I have Peyton Manning's phone number is because he was on my show talking about Kevin O 'Connell and this is just like exactly what you think Peyton would be and I I wrap up I go like make a lunch or whatever and I got this number that I've never seen before and just a wall of text he's like hey just one more thing on Kevin O 'Connell's offense and he just sends me like paragraphs so how much he loves the Vikings offense so it's like it's that kind of thing where like I don't hear from him all the time but I hear from him enough where it's like he just wants to talk ball.

1:33:28That's all he wants to do. That's all he wants to do. It's similar to Gruden. Yes. Gruden is the same way. All they want to do is just like, hey, I have so many thoughts on the Vikings that I'm just going to send a wall of text or a voice memo.

1:33:39PFT Commenter:Do his eyes, similar to Gruden, do his eyes kind of glaze over when you just do any topic besides football? Because Gruden, it's very funny. He's not rude about it, but he's just like, hey, can we get back to football? Jack travels with Peyton. What's your take on what happens when we're talking? Here, I'm talking to Mike. Talking to Mike. Mike to Mike? No, Kevin's Mike. Share Mike. Mike to Mike.

1:34:03Big Cat:What's the question exactly?

1:34:05PFT Commenter:When you're not talking football with Peyton Manning, does he get a little, not bored, but like, hey, can we get back to football? Yeah, I mean, I try to keep it very surface level questions about football because I know the second I start asking about like cover two or cover three, then he takes it to a next level. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to pretend to understand what he's saying. I can't do that. Yeah. Yeah. He's dialed on football all the time. I love that. Yeah. Football guy. Through and through.

1:34:27Big Cat:Big time. Truly, that's all he cares about. Yeah. I think one time we were trying to explain Chapel Rhone to John Gruden, and I think he wanted to murder everybody. Yeah. He's like, get me the fuck out of here. He's like, can we talk about quarterbacks again? Yeah. Let's get back to - Didn't he say on your show a couple months ago, though, he was getting dialed in on music? Yeah. A little bit. Yeah. He is listening to new music. I forget what new artist he's really into these days. There was somebody that he was all about for a couple weeks. Might have been. That's like a true football guy. You start to get a little antsy.

1:34:54Big Cat:You start to get new habits in like May, June, and then July hits, and you're like, oh, yeah, I'm back to football. Forget about music. I don't care about music. Football. Yeah, it's football season.

1:35:01PFT Commenter:So you are also dialed into football. Like I said at the start, you've been traveling around. We got some questions. We'll use this as a little bit of NFL preview, which I feel like you can't do enough NFL previews. You cannot. This time of year, it's just like, what do we want to talk about? Oh, let's talk about football, even though they're not playing yet. But let's start with the big news, Micah Parsons. So first question is Micah Parsons will play week one for probably Dallas Cowboys. So there's a couple of things about it. First of all, we're just now finding out after 40 years that Jerry Jones doesn't negotiate with agents.

1:35:33Yeah. Which is like one of those things that we probably should have found out a long time ago. I'm just glad. But so I think it's coming out now because Jerry is an element of professional wrestling, everything that Jerry Jones does. And there's one guy who in the last 40 years was like, I don't want to do the professional wrestling thing. And because of that, everything, the entire franchise has collapsed. They were like, he demanded a trade, which CeeDee Lamb didn't do. Zeke Elliott just went to Cabo instead of demanding a trade. Dak Prescott didn't demand a trade. And so I think it's going to get done, but it just shows you how fragile the whole thing was because Jerry thought he was doing a bit, and Micah was like, I don't want to do a bit.

1:36:07I want$45 million a year. That's a good bit. That's my bit. That's my bit. And so now we're – I don't know. I think this is one – this is the situation that Jerry can't win in, which is that this guy does not want to play Jerry's stupid game.

1:36:24Big Cat:Right. And then I saw Jerry. He said, like, this is all part of the negotiation process. It's mom and daddy stuff. I don't think that Micah knew that this was part of the process. Right. It should have been. It should have been like professional wrestling, and it should have taken him into a back room and been like, these are the moves I'm going to do with you. Like, you have to have buy-in if you're going to do a professional wrestling bit.

1:36:42PFT Commenter:And that also is where I feel like it's headed. If the answer is Dallas Cowboys, it's headed towards Micah Parsons' new contract getting announced right before Thursday Night Football. Yes. Maybe that's the morning of. That's what he likes to do. He wants to steal Banner Night from the Eagles being like Micah Parsons. That's it. He's just obsessed with himself. The guidepost for Jerry is like he wants to win, sure, like in some vague way, but he really wants to get credit for winning. And he wants the headlines. He wants the headlines, but he wants people to be talking about Jerry Jones being a smart football guy.

1:37:12Like we already have proof of concept. Like I said on TV a couple weeks ago where I was like, if you if you if the football gods were like hey you can win three super bowls but you can't give a press conference about it he'd be like no deal like he wants right he wants to talk about what's the point right and people were like oh well i don't know about that he fired jimmy johnson yeah because he was like i don't know if i'm getting enough credit for this one i'm not like i'm not in the inner circle of the coaching staff i want more power i want more um just shine in this like jimmy's getting so much shine from these super bowls like i don't like this he'd rather have Dave Campo and and you know Barry Switzer won a Super Bowl Barry Switzer he did Jason Garrett like all those guys he'd rather have that than win like there's and the reason we know this is because if he wanted to change he would he's done nothing to change the franchise and he's not going

1:37:56PFT Commenter:to at this point so all right so just let's let's do a hypothetical he's not on the Dallas Cowboys what is the cost and is there even one team that like shouldn't be in the running for this because it to me it's such a no-brainer that every team should be calling the Cowboys all 31 yeah like Like, it's not even people like, oh, two first-round picks. Who the fuck cares? If you have Micah Parsons, you're not going to get a guy in the next two drafts that's better than Micah Parsons. No. And what's funny is to see the trade proposals, fan bases, cook up. Oh, yeah. It's like one first-round pick and then, like, our bus defense.

1:38:28Yeah, our worst player. Yeah. Like, well, maybe. We'll part with that. It would probably be three first-round picks. Really? Yeah, yes. Because the Cowboys want to keep them. The franchise tag existing, when you think about it, is the craziest thing in sports. Yeah. Like, they're allowed to keep guys for three extra years because they're good at their job. Right. And it's cost-controlled. And that's what the Cowboys will just do. Like, they will control. Micah's playing on his fifth-year option right now. Which, by the way, there's some dishonest ways to look at this. But they're paying Micah and Dak as much as the Eagles are paying their top four guys, which is Hurts, Mylotta, Lane Johnson, and A.J.

1:39:02Brown. So, like, that's Howie versus how Jerry Jones operates. Right. And that's a huge quarterback contract and then a guy playing on his fifth-year option. But I think the Cowboys don't want to trade them, and the franchise tag is the most – it is the best leverage in sports that teams have. Like no one else has anything approaching that. So I don't – my feeling on it, and I've said this before, and I can't think of a counterfactual, I don't think a team – an NFL team has ever traded a guy they wanted to keep. Right. Because you think about Rodgers, and he was like, I want out. And they were like, thanks for the suggestion.

1:39:31We're going to keep you two more years until Jordan Love is ready. Right. Russell Wilson, same thing in Seattle. Like there's never really an element of teams being like, Like, oh, this guy. The NBA now, you demand a trade, and they're like, okay, yeah. Here's your plane ticket. And in the NFL, I do not think there's ever been a negotiation. John Gruden traded Kahlil Mack. His whole thing was, we stunk on defense with you. We'll just take the picks and figure it out later. That's the kind of stuff that happens in the NFL. It's not, oh, this guy really wants out, and we're just going to do it as a favor to the agent or whatever is going on in the NBA.

1:40:04No, Micah Parsons is going to go anywhere. Unless Jerry decides.

1:40:07Big Cat:I mean, I think what might get it done is if they just carbon copy the Herschel Walker deal. Because then Jerry would be like, that was a great trade for you. That was a great trade. We're back. We ended up winning Super Bowls based off that. We got Emmitt Smith. It would have to be massive, and the team they were trading with would have to stink. It would probably have to be the Vikings. It would have to be the exact same trade. Yeah. And then Jerry would be like, okay, I'll do it. Is there a possibility that Micah just sits out? I don't think so. What does that help with? You don't get any – you're closer to free agency.

1:40:36You don't get money. You don't get money. You get a year older. And I also think there's an element. The league just doesn't like that. Like the league is just going to be like, this sucks. And not. If you can't get two or three, whatever it would cost, first round picks now, you're not going to get it after waiting out a year. That's just not how it works.

1:40:51Big Cat:What do you think Brian Schottenheimer thinks about this whole thing? He probably was thinking he'll get like a couple weeks or a couple months of grace period before this.

1:40:59PFT Commenter:By the way, we should remind everyone that Brian Schottenheimer is the coach of the Cowboys. Jerry Jones just looked down the hallway and was like, you. You coach now. That's what I was going to say. He's probably like, oh my God, this is so cool. I got to be the head coach of the Cowboys. He's probably so good with it. Whatever happens next to me.

1:41:16Big Cat:We're doing Micah? Okay, yeah. Let's do the Micah storyline. Cool. Cool. He's just so into it. There's no way. Yeah. Did you guys ever see the movie King Ralph? No. It's with John Goodman. It's from like 40 years ago. And I don't want to get the plot wrong. Obviously, a lot of King Ralph guys out there. but yeah you're gonna basically like off here all the all the members of the royal family die and this guy in wisconsin yeah i remember okay yeah john goodman becomes the king of england and just because he just got he got elevated such a great plot line yeah and it's such an we can we reboot that yeah um who would play that now probably john goodman probably yeah probably still john goodman probably john goodman but like that's sometimes you get these head coaches who are in total king ralph mode and they're just like i didn't expect to be the king of england this is amazing so I don't know how much he's complaining but he's probably listen he's like a good guy I've interviewed him before players obviously like him I'm not being like flippant about it he probably you know not probably he obviously wants to win and I think he knows that this is going to get figured out like everything else does yeah what about the other hold-ins across the league James Cook was yesterday I was in Buffalo for that business business that'll probably get done like I don't I'm not all these so James Cook is the hold in who are the other hold in?

1:42:35There's Terry and Trey Hendrickson. Oh that's the one you're asking about I was dancing around Terry. Yeah yeah yeah

1:42:39PFT Commenter:we don't care about James Cook don't get it I don't know this thing about the commanders not wanting to sign a guy over 30 years old for that kind of money. Yeah people were embarrassed to be commanders fans until like two years ago and the entire except for you

1:42:59Big Cat:yeah but were you i mean i hated i hated dan snyder okay i still do yeah i hope he's listening right now and i hope he's crying i'd be surprised if he was listening i would be surprised if he's

1:43:09PFT Commenter:crying he's probably just happy being honest he's probably on a yacht he's cackling on an island somewhere i think he might be better chance he's listening than crying did he ever come back remember when he was avoiding like uh testifying oh he's never coming by being in monaco yeah no he's on his yacht he's still there foreign territory left international water no he's just been floating

1:43:27Big Cat:around on his own private yacht for the last like four years still downloading part of my take still downloading the podcast shout out to him i don't know why um i think they should i think both sides should cave because it's just too important and like jayden daniels the deep ball needs to get better i talked to him a couple days ago as you did um and he said to me i was like how can the deep ball get better because he was so good at lsu he was like better than joe burrow as far as like 40-yard chunk plays, and that means he's the best in history. And he said they got to a point at LSU when it was Malik Nabors and Brian Thomas where they repped it so much that they knew if they had man coverage they were going to win, like exactly how to get the ball down the field, exactly where to place it, all that stuff.

1:44:07The only way to get that at the NFL level is for him and Ty McClaren to just work on that every day for the next 40 days, and then you get there. That's the one place where they left me on the bone is the deep passing. And so I think that they need to give him the DK Metcalf contract I can call it a day. I don't understand this, like, oh, we can't pay a movie over 30. You have a chance legitimately to win a Super Bowl this year. You can't screw that up. The fan base has PTSD. And I know analytics, you can't do this. You can't use that as a guidepost. Yes, you can. The fan base attitude matters.

1:44:39They deserve good things. Right.

1:44:41Big Cat:I think Terry deserves good things, too. Yes. He's been the ideal football player that you want on just objectively shitty teams. Yes. He's the guy that always showed up, worked hard.

1:44:50PFT Commenter:It's also like the timeline. Jaden Daniels is on a rookie contract. This is when you can pay guys. Go out and get another guy. Screw it. Trade for Trey Hendricks. I don't know. Just go out and do it. Vaughn Miller was paying 17 snaps a game last year. He's going to be a fourth quarter guy. He could still use another passers. Go out and take a swing. You don't have to be process guy just because the ownership is from the 76ers, which, by the way, the process didn't even work. No, I disagree.

1:45:13Big Cat:The process of the process worked. They got the first picks, right? The results of the process didn't work. We're process guys. We still don't have the results. Yeah, we don't. As long as the – Joel Embiid is there.

1:45:25PFT Commenter:It's not even Joel Embiid. It's just like forever. As long as the process – as long as one link back to the process exists, they could win a championship in 20 years and be like, kind of worked. That's a good point. It's still open. Like if Joel Embiid gets traded, those guys then become part of the process. Yeah, it's an open door. It's like the Thunder – the Thunder made a trade with the Magic 2016 for Oladipo and Serge Ibaka. And like the after effects got them like all of their players.

1:45:50Big Cat:yeah now that's right you're you're a magic fan you are the magic fan i'm the magic fan is there what other magic fans are there you're the only one that i've met yeah steve saruti um tiger woods was one this is a little bit controversial so tiger woods was a magic fan he was sitting courtside for like a decade and then they played the lakers in the finals and he released a statement basically saying he hopes both teams have fun both teams win and i think that you've been kicked out of fraternity at that point. You just gotta pick a side there. In the finals? You just gotta pick a side. He was basically like, you know, I grew up there.

1:46:26And first of all, just also don't release a statement. No, yeah, just pick a side. Or just don't even go to the games. Yeah, just don't go to the games. Just keep it to yourself, dude. A couple golfers are Magic fans. That makes sense. Because of the whole golfer community there. But no, same thing. It's the same thing as the Terry McLaren thing. They went out and got Desmond Bain, and they're gonna win now because they're going out and taking the swing. And I've been horrified sometimes to be a magic fan over the past 14 years and they haven't had like a top half offense top half of the league offense since dwight howard left and like that's a little embarrassing but the terry mccarnick thing like you know he's the best go ball receiver in football or second or something like that uh best tight window receiver in football like go out and just

1:47:07Big Cat:just fix it i agree pay terry it's pretty scary so what about the bangles because i i feel like they've gotten off to that terrible slow start for the last what three seasons one was because of appendicitis i get that he had surgery yeah but they they just tend to start slow i do feel like zach taylor might be there's some hot seat talk about zach taylor if it doesn't i guess but the brown fan this is the whole thing with marvin lewis if they're if he has a year left on his contract he's not going to get fired they don't do they're not making moves when they don't need to that's true yeah they're a weird organization they're the cowboys weird or older cousin yeah so how would you describe the bengals to somebody that might not be familiar with how mr brown does business um they had to sell naming rights to the stadium to sign joe burrow that's a little different yeah my theory on that was that they should have just had whoever was gonna buy the rights to the stadium should have just bought the naming rights to joe burrow's contract or just to joe burrow to joe burrow so that way they're saying like it's the pay i think it's the pay core stadiums yeah to say the pay core joe burrow joe pay core yeah yeah joe pay core yeah yes yes and just do it that way.

1:48:12And then all of a sudden, there's probably some salary cap relief and PayCorp gets its word out there.

1:48:18Big Cat:It's a funny situation. It might be a dumb question. Is an organization like PayCorp, would they be allowed to pay Joe Burrow? Like, here's$50 million. So I think there's some salary cap circumvention as far as that goes. Got to get creative with the cap. You got to get creative with the cap. There was some of that. Weren't there stories about some teams questioning whether or not uh the tb12 stuff was cap circumvention right yeah was in was helping out tb12 and then it's like is that that there was some there was some rumblings you know like 10 years ago from from team just complaining but back then there was a lot of like patriots derangement syndrome a decade ago where people were just complaining about everything that they did so that could have been part of it but i still like i assume there'd be an investigation first of all if joe burrow showed up with a different florio would be on that so fast oh Oh, my God.

1:49:04Big Cat:Yeah, they probably. What about Jaden Raytheon?

1:49:10Big Cat:Listen, it could. Let's do it. Yeah. Find out. The only way to find out is to do it. Yeah, that's true. We're in the arena. We're making things happen. Yeah, listen. Jaden Raytheon. Move fast, break stuff. Let them punish us after the fact. Who would be a coach that might be a surprise hot seat guy this year? Mike McDaniel's not a surprise, right? No. No, I don't think so. I mean, he's just. He feels sad. I think he's sad. Yeah. Well, it should have worked. It should have worked. They had a really good team two years ago, Tyreek and Waddle, and he made Tua a lot better. But the one thing that's funny about McDaniel is how much ex-players on TV hate Mike McDaniel.

1:49:46They really hate him. Every time I'm like, oh, I'm going to go hard on the Dolphins, some guy next to me is like, this is the worst team. This is the worst coach in the world. I'm like, oh, okay. I'm trying to think who else could be.

1:49:56Big Cat:With Mike McDaniel, though, what happened this offseason with Tyreek Hill? Because Tyreek seems like he's openly being antagonistic. to his head coach right now. I don't think he wants to be there. He said he didn't want to be there anymore. Yeah. And then Tua was like, he's got to fix that relationship. It doesn't sound like he's doing it. No. And he also, he got worse last year. He had, first two years he was in Miami, he led the NFL in deep receptions. It was 20 each season. Last year he had five. And so, and it's not like he was playing with Tyler Huntley the entire season. Like it was just the number, and he was hurt, and he had the thing week one that was obviously the craziest thing.

1:50:30So there's context there. He wasn't amazing to where a team's going to be like, hey, let's give you the Michael – let's give you the Herschel Walker trade. Right. So he's kind of there. So they kind of – it's kind of a make work there. Right. And so I don't – it has the possibility to be such a sad place this year. Yeah. Yeah. Because they could lose a lot. And then everybody's getting injured. Yeah. And then they start losing. Everybody knows they're getting fired. And it should have worked. And they have a lot of guys under big contracts. And just going to be really sad.

1:50:57PFT Commenter:He seems like someone that would be a really good second job candidate too. where it's like everything you described. He's a good coach. He's a really good coach. And then – He makes quarterbacks better. Yeah, and then this happens. All right, so I love this time of year trying to figure out – we know how the NFL works. When you look at who made the playoffs last year, you can just essentially say three of those teams are not going to make the playoffs. And so I try to figure out what's a team that maybe is – everyone's low on that you could buy low. I got two teams I want to throw out. Okay. And I think they might be a little crazy, but I want to hear what you have to say.

1:51:31PFT Commenter:the first is the New York Giants yeah I think that's a little crazy I think their defense will be really good their defense is going to be good what's the offense there Jameis

1:51:43Big Cat:it's got to be Jameis it's Russ for the first four weeks and then they go to Jameis sprinkle in a little Tommy DeVito but then Jameis

1:51:52PFT Commenter:their pass rush should be one of the best units in all of the NFL yeah I agree I think the way they've handled it and you look at Abdul Carter, the practice clips are unbelievable, and I think there's going to be a step forward there. I just think on offense, there's nothing doing. It's sad. Yeah, it can be a little sad, and I don't think Russell Wilson can give you much. I think they're going to go to Jackson Dart just because of job preservation. The only way they save their job is either they win a bunch of games with Russell Wilson or Jameis, which seems to be – I don't think – it's not – this is not – my thought is not predicated on Russell Wilson.

1:52:24PFT Commenter:Just want that clear. I do not think he's good anymore. But I think they have to start Jackson Dart to save their job. Yeah. Like, oh, look at that. We can't start over. We've got a guy. We've got a guy here, so we've got to save our job. Win some ugly games. Sure. I just don't. When have they won ugly games? I don't know. Again, I'd say this is crazy. And then the other one might be even crazier. I actually feel stronger about the Giants than the other one, the Raiders. That's not crazy, but the division is too hard. The Broncos are really good. I think the Chargers are pretty good. I know. And then you have the Kansas City Chiefs.

1:52:55But one of those teams is not going to make the playoffs.

1:52:57PFT Commenter:just by if you just go historically like like i said there's 17 someone gets injured yeah like something happens that we don't see i think geno smith's really good and i think pete carroll gives consistency to that they haven't had in a while brock bowers is good they probably need another receiver defense can be okay yeah pete carroll is really good he's a really good coach and he's and i think that the the vibes can be high there but i think it's like a nine win team okay so maybe i'm downgrading them from playoffs but i it's more they can be good they can be good The Raiders can both be teams.

1:53:27PFT Commenter:If you look at the schedule and you're like, that's a win, maybe not. I think the Raiders have been much better. Okay. I don't think that's that crazy. Okay. All right. I don't think that's that crazy. What about the Chargers in that division? I love the Chargers. I love the Chargers. I don't want to delve deep into this. The Najee Harris thing is weird. Yeah. It's weird. Wait, which one? Are you talking about the guy from Fresno that was on TV? That Najee Harris?

1:53:49Big Cat:There was a different Najee Harris that got injured in a fireworks accident. Yeah. But then the other one also had a firework. Yeah. It was crazy. It was a wild couple days. Yeah. So I just want to clarify which one you're talking about. There was a tweet yesterday that was from a beat writer that was like, hey, Najee Harris is working off to the side. And remember, a month ago he was deemed totally fine. Right. Everything was good. So yesterday it was like he's working off to the side, and then there was a follow-up tweet that was like, never mind, he's just standing there. And so that doesn't sound great.

1:54:18He's been – you know, it doesn't seem good. But Hampton, bigger back, they want to run the ball. again probably need another receiver I think Jim Harbaugh is amazing so they'll probably win a bunch I think they're probably going to make the playoffs yeah I think they are going to be third place in the division and beat teams they shouldn't or should whatever and then still the Broncos and the Chiefs are too good the Broncos are awesome Broncos are a wagon dude

1:54:46PFT Commenter:alright so then you give us a couple teams that you could see making it into the playoffs that weren't in the playoffs last year I don't want to give you hope I think the Bears might be okay. Okay is where I'm fine with. Okay, I think okay is okay. How are you processing Caleb Williams missing a net? AI. I'm just claiming it's AI. Yeah. No, I'm trying to get more mature where it's like, look, what I liken it to is our social team, I assume all across the internet, they're basically like police officers at the end of the month. They got to get their quota up. What do you do? you hit the Caleb Williams is bad button.

1:55:26PFT Commenter:Instant reach. What if he's bad? He could be bad. My take on the Bears this year is I am excited for the fact that we have eliminated everything around Caleb Williams and we will find out if Caleb Williams is good. Which is a good thing to do. You gotta find out. You gotta find out. The coaches should be great. The offensive line is fixed. He's got weapons. If Caleb Williams has a bad year, I'm not going to sit here and be like, he needs this, he needs that. No, no. He's got it. He's got to be. Joe Chuni, Drew Dahlman. There's got to be a progression like Colson Loveland. Colson Loveland, Cole Komet.

1:56:02Yeah. No Keenan Allen out there. Yeah.

1:56:05PFT Commenter:That Keenan Allen interception at the end of the year was so funny, though. When he's just like, fuck it, it's week 18. Speaking of aggregators, people are still like, Keenan Allen's still available. I think he's going to go to the Chargers. Okay. What's that going to do? Yeah. He's big. He's a big hero. So my friends and I have something we call the Carmelo zone. Remember when Carmelo was on his eighth team? Yeah. And every show was like, where's Carmelo going to sign? So the league doesn't care about Carmelo Anthony. So why were you talking about this all the time? All respect to Carmelo, had an amazing career.

1:56:34But obviously it's like Blazers, Carmelo, wasn't a huge bidding war for us. And so I think in the NFL we get that even quicker, like Titans, Julio Jones, right? Where it's like, oh my God, someone's getting a stud. And it's like, well, not really. Yeah, right. He moves on from these guys pretty quickly. And Keenan Allen is firmly in that zone right now. We're getting daily updates on him.

1:56:53Big Cat:Jadavion Clowney's played his entire career. Yeah, he has. He's really figured it out. That man loves to travel. Where is he right now? I thought he was on Carolina. I think he's a free agent right now, right? Yeah, I think he's just waiting. He's just skipping. He's in Carolina, then he went to Baltimore.

1:57:08PFT Commenter:Wait, so you don't think the Bears are a playoff team? No, I think they might be. Oh, okay. Dominic Foxworth thinks they're going to win the division. Okay. I'm not. I think the Packers are very good. I'm picking the Packers. Yeah. But I think the Bears can make the playoffs. I think Ben Johnson's really good. I think we already discussed all the upgrades. Like, Roma Dunze is really good. Yeah, it's just Caleb. It's just Caleb. Plus Caleb. Yeah. And I think that he was so bad last year when he held onto the ball. That's the big thing. He's got no one to quit playing. I have a theory. I don't want to go into generational warfare here.

1:57:41No, I like this. I like where we're going. I think young quarterbacks hold onto the ball too long because they were never punished when they were in high school. If you were born in 1985, you were playing on concrete and then a little turf over it. If you hold onto the ball too long, you were legally allowed to get a tombstone into the concrete. That was what happened when you held onto the ball too long in the 90s. and now the way the quarterbacks develop like they're playing seven and seven all the time and they're playing high school where you can't hit the quarterback and in college where it's all the spread stuff get rid of the ball quickly and so they get to the nfl and they just hold on the ball forever and because they've never been punished where it's like if you were 10 years ago you just had to get rid of the ball or else you would die yeah existential thing and now you've got this whole generation of quarterbacks who are like i'm just gonna pat the ball and just see what

1:58:29PFT Commenter:happens i also think you could throw in like you know madden playing madden where you can just drift backwards. You know what I mean? Yes. That's not how real world works in the NFL, but if you play Madden you can just be like, I'm not even going to care about a pocket. I'm just going to drift back. In NCAA, all I do is just roll to the right, wait for a crosser to open up, and it's a 25-yard chunk play. You want to get a quarterback that's had

1:58:50Big Cat:five broken ribs by the time he gets out of high school. And his dad didn't let him play video. Maybe there's a European thing. You know how Euroball, they say the fundamentals are better? Is there an Austrian league where they're just punishing people? Just killing the quarterback? I feel like that does still happen down south a little bit. A little bit, yeah, probably. So we should just maybe – Don't get a California quarterback. Don't get a California quarterback. Do not look up where Jaden Daniels is from. Or Caleb's from D.C. D.C., but then, yeah, California. He's like an honorary California.

1:59:20Big Cat:Where should they be from? Arkansas? I think Louisiana. I would say Western PA, too. Alabama and Ohio. Ohio. Ohio quarterbacks, yeah. I feel like Ohio quarterbacks took a lot of – Burrow looks like he's taking hits in high school.

1:59:33PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right, so what other teams? What other teams are going to surprise us not in the playoffs last year? Yeah. You're high on them. I mentioned the Broncos earlier. I think they're a Super Bowl contender. Yep. I think they're a division contender. Super Bowl contender. I think they're amazing. I love it. I think they're amazing. I'm a believer in Bo Nix. I'm a believer. Defensive player of the year candidates last year. The Bo Nix thing to me, it makes total sense. Last year in college football, there were six pretty good quarterbacks because the COVID year let everybody find their quarterback destiny.

2:00:01That's the Cam Ward story, too. He kept transferring until he was the number one overall pick. Same thing happened. There's a reason there were six really good quarterbacks in the draft last year is because these guys had five years to figure it out. So Bo Nix, to me, the fact that he found a home in Oregon and then he played a million snaps, he put like a thousand more snaps than J.J. McCarthy did. It's funny that the worst quarterback in the draft class two years ago was the guy who went three and out, which is your quarterback. So maybe playing a lot of football matters. Maybe that's a thing.

2:00:30But no, I think the Broncos are amazing. They have one of the five best rosters in football.

2:00:35Big Cat:Yeah. Okay. What about the Lions? We were just in that division. Yeah. Is there reason to panic based off the Hall of Fame game? We take a lot. No. I did see the aggregators be like, major regression years. Yeah. No. There's no – the roster is so good. It's just so stacked. That's the best way to – like there's an anecdote in Seth Wickersham's book about the Patriots where after the Patriots lost, romeo cornell and charlie weiss that somebody was on the field and they were talking to another coach and they were like man this is going to be a weird year and the guy was like it's all bill like it's all bill don't don't don't sweat it i think that some of these teams like dan campbell i have another theory that dan campbell is so jacked that people think he's not an offensive coach yeah like he doesn't look like mike mcdaniel yeah you assume he's like a defensive guru yeah yeah but he played tight end like he he's the one that nurtured ben johnson from an assistant tight ends coach in Miami to an offensive coordinator in Detroit so um the other thing about Dan he told me once like he's the perfect mix of gut feel and analytics and how they dovetail sometimes so he told me that the reason he goes front and forth down so much is that when he was with Sean Payton who's analytically minded that he would see how freaking scared the defense was yeah when he would go for it he was like I want to do that like that's what I want I want like to see defensive coordinators like pissing themselves basically yeah because we're going forward on fourth and four and taking a shot like not they're not running the tush push they're like trying to go 30 yards down the field no shots at the tush push but i just think that dan campbell is just so unique and we he's don't really become because of ben johnson really become underrated like he had the he authored the best culture change i've ever seen in football yeah ever like the lions were a joke for 40 years and he understood exactly what that franchise needed he wanted the job like He was tearing up in our interview his first year because he was talking about he was a player there during the financial crisis in 08 and how hard Detroit got hit.

2:02:31And he was like, I wanted all of Detroit to know I feel their pain. And I don't think there's ever been a better story than that in coaching. And yet, four years later, we're like, can Dan Campbell really do this? It's a joke. It's a joke. Dan Campbell's going to do it.

2:02:45PFT Commenter:The only thing I'll say about the Lions is doesn't it feel like last year was such a – everything was set up perfectly. And they got hurt. And then the kind of air comes out of the balloon a little bit. Like, they're still very good, but that's just kind of how the league works where it's, you know. Last year was the year. Like, that was the year. They had the home field advantage. They won 15 games, all these things. And then to get back up off the mat, you get the brain drain. I think a lot of it goes to Aiden Hutchinson's health. Yeah. If he comes back. Yeah, he was going to be the defensive player of the year.

2:03:19PFT Commenter:Bro, he was like top 10 pressures in like December. Oh, yeah. We always would just update it. Like in week 15, we'd be like, oh, Eden Hutchinson's still number four. He had an MVP case that he was making. He really did. He really did. And it's part of it. I always think that they should give retroactive coach of the year and defensive player of the year awards. I remember there was a year Earl Thomas went out and the Seahawks just forgot to play football. And it's like, we should just go ahead and start giving DPOYs to Earl Thomas because you see it right there. Or Mike Tomlin should get four Coach of the Years for the Antonio Brown-Le 'Veon Bell years.

2:03:54Just more. Just give him more. He should be awarded five years after the fact, or there should be two awards. Yeah. The Retroactive Coach of the Year. But Hutchinson, same deal. You should have given him DPOI because you saw what happened when he went out. Yeah, it's totally different.

2:04:07Big Cat:I think the Jets fans are very excited because they've got a new coach from that system. Bears fans are obviously excited because they got that. but we've always said about Dan Campbell that the smartest thing that he's done is make people think that he's stupid yes like throwing out all the meathead stuff that's and I do think he's like a significant part meathead I think he's probably like 50 percent meathead but he's also very smart and he loves to be underestimated by people so when he goes on podcasts he's like yeah I'm thinking about getting a lion on the sidelines then that's good because now people are like look at this clown and he's like behind the scenes actually if you look at the numbers of when he goes for it that dude absolutely knows the analytics through and through because he follows it to a tee

2:04:46PFT Commenter:yes i think he's a very smart guy and he's gonna get the reverse of what i just said you know the year last year was their year and all that he just gets to play chip on the shoulder like people are doubting him you know like it that is a big thing i'm going there in two days so it'd be great if by the time i'm there he's already clipped this and yeah and sitting the players chip on the shoulder yeah chip on the shoulder yeah last year was the year well we're massive dan campbell well do you want to clip it right now so last year let's just say last year last year was the year so 2025 yeah uh you think they have no chance yeah i mean you they missed their window it stinks

2:05:23Big Cat:he was such a good story and you know it all fell apart and he lost all he lost his boy geniuses yeah yeah aaron glenn boy gene yeah it's it's sad it's actually shocking that dan campbell can even

2:05:33PFT Commenter:like get find the find the facility every day to find his without his boy geniuses yeah yeah Yeah. They were putting the address and the GPS every single day. Yeah. Yeah. Ben Johnson was sitting shotgun. I mean, like, going to take a left here, Dan.

2:05:45Big Cat:You see the Hall of Fame game? It was terrible. Bad offensive line play. Right back. I will say this. He did a linebacker returning kicks, which I don't know about that one. That was just freaky with it. Yeah. That was like, what the fuck? That was the one thing. You can clip that down. Like, that was our line. I don't know about that one.

2:06:01PFT Commenter:All right. Other teams that you're high on that we're not looking at. Because, you know, I think the AFC obviously could say Chiefs. the Ravens, the Bills. You like the Broncos a lot. I love the Broncos. But like who's another? You know who I think is going to be pretty good is the Tennessee Titans. Oh. I think Cam Ward. Now that has no – you're completely unbiased. We want this on the record, completely unbiased. I think Evan Clark is not one of those psycho Miami fans that says they're back every single year. Oh, wait, that's right. They won 10 games last year. They won 10 games. Okay. In the ACC.

2:06:31Yeah.

2:06:31PFT Commenter:Okay. How many Wisconsin? Yeah, I know. We're playing a big boy league. and we also and we got your and we got your fucking quarterback who stunk wait wait that's not my fault

2:06:42Big Cat:you're suing Miami

2:06:43PFT Commenter:Miami was tampering Miami's never tampered before hey I have a question why when Tanner Mordecai wasn't in the portal was it reported he was going to Wisconsin a couple years ago I don't understand I don't know the portal dude you fucking figure it out you're a geek squad guy go back to the Titans so I will say this the Syracuse game was the worst thing that's ever happened to me like in life I've thought about it it was the worst thing that's ever happened to me okay that's a pretty good life yeah no i thought i thought about that too how lucky am i there's a thing i talk really good life i think about like every day in the shower is like we blew a 21 yeah you just delayed when you're gonna get your ass kicked yeah but it'd been nice it would have been no i agree it's about the ride in college football especially like taking it to the to the playoff is cool all that's i have a thing real quick about so i have my son there and like there were two things about number one is i knew we were gonna lose when my son who loves sports put his hands over his ears during a big third down i was like the kids fucking rattled yeah yeah we're done he's like so happy and he's like he's choking he's choking stadium pulse going off he was his head my son literally was choking because the stadium pulse at the carrier dome uh but the other thing is when the game ended my wife was like looking at me like if he expires right now like if he hits the eject button like you're he'd been for four hour game so as soon as miami loses i pick him up and i i i run out and we get him in the car and he falls asleep i'm feeling amazing and we start driving back and then it doesn't hit me how awful the loss was for like a week like literally because i'm just my win was me getting him in the in the car seat right so my new theory on this is that you should just be able to rent kids for high leverage games okay and then that's you just take care of them and that way you're not that focused on the on potential catastrophic like if the bills make the super bowl we need like a station of kids.

2:08:28Yeah, yeah. Where it's like, hey, you actually have to watch this kid the entire game. Yeah. And you feel fulfilled in some way. I like that. And then you don't, you know, if the Bills lose, we can go from there. It's not a bad idea. Yeah, no, it's good. But Cam Ward. Oh, yeah, Cam Ward.

2:08:40Big Cat:But he said the offense was mid. Yeah, but that's his thing. That's his thing. He's like a – Did he be mid? Well, no, so Brandon was just talking about – It's a pretty cool thing, I'll be honest. Being a mid quarterback is a great life. It is. So there's two types of we suck. There's like the Joe Burrow. Like Joe Burrow a couple years ago was like, this is terrible. And Jamar Chase is like, I can't catch the ball. And then they made the Super Bowl that year. And then there's like the we actually suck thing. And you have to be able to tell the difference between the two. Like there's some places where, you know, like if Kellen Moore was like, this Saints team sucks, you'd be like, okay.

2:09:16Oh, no. Yeah. But if like if Baker Mayfield says it, it's like, no. Yeah, yeah. They're just in the process, right? That Bucs team's really good. So with Cam Ward, I think it's an expectation thing. He knows how to run. The stories that came out of Miami last year were unbelievable, just from August. He's a culture changer. He makes everybody better. He is so calm. He's almost too calm in the pocket.

2:09:40PFT Commenter:Yeah, he's standing flat-footed half the time. Yeah, and just throwing those little things. I have a story. I have a friend who was on the sideline for the Gator game, and they the first drive of that game they were it was a touchdown to cam mccormick the 27 year old and uh he scored and it was seven nothing it was like 12 minutes to go in the game and one of the offensive coaches walked up my buddy and was like this game's over and he's like what do you mean he's like there's 90 000 people here the calmest guy in the stadium is the miami quarterback like he's the only one whose hands aren't shaking it's the only one who's not doing stadium bullshit right like he was just it was it was the swamp it was august 31st and he was it was like he was in his living room just pouring coffee right and i think that that translates the nfl level he's not gonna be rattled i think hopefully calvin ridley's healthy enough i don't know if his respect was gonna make the team we'll see how that goes but like i just think that like steve young said this one time about mahomes i think about all the time where everybody gives him the credit for the superman stuff but nobody gives mahomes the credit for the clark Kent stuff and Cam Moore can do both those things he can just fire it into a tight end or he can just run back and forth for five seconds until as the aforementioned video game thing someone comes open on a right so like I think he's going to be immediately good okay what do you think about the

2:10:55Big Cat:Panthers this year are we are we crazy to talk about the Panthers decent we think they might go to the Super Bowl that might be crazy if you look at the stats they play that's to say they're going Every time they've played Jacksonville in opening week, I think, they've gone to the Super Bowl. And also every year that Jennifer Lopez gets a divorce, they go to the Super Bowl. Numbers never lie. That's rock solid. I do think that Bryce Young, he's gotten better. He was great last year for the second half. Or better. Yeah, he was. He was. No, he wasn't. Is that Caleb Williams' cope? Is that he'll get better in his second year?

2:11:36Yeah, I mean, Bryce Young looks good. Yeah, Dave Canales is really good. They had easy answers, and I think that the defense can be okay. Like Dan Morgan, I think Dan Morgan's got a little Dan Campbell in him. And he gets up there, and he's like, we just want dogs, man. We just want dogs. But then you talk to him, and it's like, oh, he actually gets it. There's a public persona and a private persona. He understands it. And they have an analytics department that's really robust. So I'm long on them. It seems like David Tepper has kind of figured out how to trust his people now. So I don't think it's crazy that they're going to be good.

2:12:09I do think it's a little crazy. Understanding the Jennifer Lopez thing.

2:12:14Big Cat:I also left out a point. It's also the year after the Ohio State Buckeyes win the championship, and they play Jacksonville week one, and Jennifer Lopez gets a divorce. That's all happening this year. So the stars are truly aligned for Carolina. It's a good thought. And with David Tepper, he is in the phase of new owners. I love watching owners figure out how leagues work. This is the phase where he's like, I have to be able to trust my football guys and not meddle. And then once things start to go bad, then he's going to start meddling again. And then two years from then he'll be like, I've learned that I need to trust my guys and let them do their jobs.

2:12:46So I think there's three types of owners. There's owners that know how to win and want to win. There's owners that don't know how to win and want to win. And then there's owners that don't care either way. And I think that the don't care either way is, not don't care either way, but if they win, it's incidental. They're never like, I'm going to die if we don't win 10 games.

2:13:04PFT Commenter:It's a lot of the inheritance owners. A lot of it. Well, they're not cash. Right, exactly. They're like, hey, we got a good thing going. If we get lightning in a bottle and go to the playoffs, that's cool. Right, but they're not going to move heaven and earth to win 14 games, which I think some of the new owners are. But I also think they don't know how to win. I think there are some owners, like Tepper is one of them. If he didn't want to win, he wouldn't fire people all the time. He would just be like, ah, Matt Rule, that's fine. and we'll just let you do your contract and figure it out later.

2:13:32Like, he wants to win. Yeah. He doesn't know how to. So then it's like, all right, hire Dan Morgan and Brent Tillis and Dave Canales, and then just you guys do this, which is the best way to do it.

2:13:40Big Cat:Yeah. What about the New England Patriots? Are you high on them? I mean, I'm high on Vrabel as an entity. Yeah. I think they still have a ways to go. Like, I think the funny thing, like, I thought Drake May was really good, and I was really impressed with him coming in, and I thought that what he showed last year, like with his legs, with just like being under assault. Like he had the worst offensive line in football and he still showed something, which you can't say about Caleb Williams. And so I was hugely impressed. And I think that like – have you guys met him before? Drake May? Drake May?

2:14:14No. Okay. I don't think so. He's like – he's got the right – he's got like a franchise quarterback attitude. He also told me it's important. Phillip Rivers trains him and he said that Phillip Rivers beats him in throwing contests like all the time. So Phillip's still got it.

2:14:26Big Cat:So I think that I'm mad at Kyle Shanahan. I'm mad at Kyle Shanahan for leaking the story that if they had made the Super Bowl and they had no quarterback, that he would have called Phillip Rivers out of retirement to play in the Super Bowl. I'm mad at him for saying that out loud because that's all I think about is how awesome that would have been to just put Phillip Rivers in there last minute. How long do you think we have where that would be a viable option? For Phillip Rivers? For Phillip Rivers. Would you do it this year? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you make the Super Bowl and you're missing a quarterback, I still think you need to call up Brett Favre.

2:15:02Big Cat:Just get him out there. Just one more time. I think Favre might be tough.

2:15:06PFT Commenter:Might be. All right. Since we talked about some of the teams that will surprise us, who is going to have the number one pick next year? Who's the worst team in the NFL? It's the Saints. Saints? Probably. I just don't see a path to them winning. The only thing about the Saints is that they really like winning games. Right. They really like winning games. and so if they get the first overall pick it's going to be accidental okay it's going to be accidental they're not gonna they're they're gonna try to win games into december like there's the heartbeat of the of the franchise like the heartbeat of the city is through the franchise so i don't think they can be like hey let's be one in 16 this year yeah um i don't i think the giants are going to win enough games um i mean the saints are by far okay the worst what about uh i i think rogers is going to be better than uh people think and i think the steelers are going to be slightly better than people think exactly i think they're gonna win like nine to ten games well that's about that's that's exactly what people think that's exactly yeah winning record yeah so you think it's like 12 13 uh maybe 11 12 i just think rogers i think he has he's got the sufficient chip on his shoulder again where it's like everyone was was like this guy should retire he stinks the jets the jets saying to him like we do not want you will make aaron rogers good again But why wasn't he good?

2:16:23Green Bay said, we don't want you.

2:16:25PFT Commenter:Well, no, but he also didn't want Green Bay a little bit. He was, though. They drafted Jordan Love. He won an MVP. Right. So they basically were, hey, we got the next guy. They waited until they were done with him. Yeah, no, but he was bad. They drafted Jordan Love. He got good again. So he needs that little, hey, you stink. Enough of the doubters. And then obviously the Achilles. This is like a renewable resource. He can keep doing this forever. Correct. And obviously, I do think the Achilles, obviously, Obviously, it was such bullshit when he was like, I'm going to be back this year. I think Achilles at that, we saw it with Kirk Cousins.

2:16:55PFT Commenter:It's probably more of an 18-month, 24-month injury for a guy on the wrong side of 30. Right. So, I don't know. I feel like he's got one more year in him because he's just a boogeyman that never dies. And then the Steelers do have a good defense, and they just haven't had competent quarterback play in the last five years. He changed the way he played last year. I think it was one of the shortest depth of targets he's ever had. He had a quick release. Skittish. He's getting rid of the ball really quickly. And so I think he's a different guy than he was during his MVP years, obviously. But I don't think he's going to sit down back there and just wait for magic to happen.

2:17:28So I think that the ceiling is a little lower, but the floor is high. He knows where to put the ball. We've seen that before with older quarterbacks. They know where to put the ball. And his arm is still good. I do think his arm is still good. I think it's the mobility that's... Right, but without mobility... Yeah, of course. You go from MVP to just pretty good. So I think he's going to be like the 15th best quarterback in their win-10 games. Okay. 15th best would be good for the Steelers.

2:17:51Big Cat:Yeah. They haven't had the 15th best quarterback in a long time. Better question is, are they going to win a playoff game? No. Okay. No way. So make the playoffs, rinse and repeat, same shit. Same deal, but with Aaron Rodgers. Okay. All right. What about week one, is Kirk Cousins an Atlanta Falcon? Yeah, I think so. I don't know what they're doing. So like the Falcons to me seem to be their entire, the premise of their entire organization is that Michael Penix is the best quarterback of all time. Like he's the guy that's like, well, we got to draft a quarterback, even though we signed a guy with like$60 million guarantees.

2:18:25We got to trade up a first pick next year for my, for, for James Pierce. The whole thing is like, is the whole boat or the whole, the whole plane is made out of Michael Penix. Right. and so I don't understand a lot of what they've done over the past 18 months but the other they said my the Kirk Cousins gonna be a backup and I kind of believe them like they gave him the roster bonus like they're really committed to the bit they're really committed they gave him like a huge roster bonus paying him all this money that they keep saying nobody believed them that he was gonna be the backup but then they keep putting their money where their mouth is and he's the

2:19:00Big Cat:backup yeah no you're right it's the entire premise it's a house of cards and it's built on the only way you operate in that scenario where you you draft michael pinnix in the top 10 is if you truly believe he's the best quarterback that's in like the next three or four drafts yes and they did it they did it and i don't know if he is that's the thing i don't know i don't but he might be that's the thing i just don't know what would you like three games what would you want to see from michael pinnix this year to be like the falcons did the right thing i'm an idiot so a couple people have said he's like an elite deep passer i mean we saw that at washington right But I would like to see just huge chunk plays this year, just a proof of concept.

2:19:39I saw that their offensive coordinator studying 2023 Washington. I'd like to see the offense a little bit more because it was really, really fun and just throw it up to Roma Dunze and good things were happening and Jalen Polk and Jalen McMillan and all those guys. That was really fun. So I could do – spread it out, just throw the ball down the field. Bijan, Kyle Pitts. Unlock Kyle Pitts.

2:19:58Big Cat:Yeah, if Kyle Pitts gets unlocked 12 touchdowns this year, I'd say good choice with Michael Penix. That's when it finally took. I'm taking the under. I'd agree with that.

2:20:07PFT Commenter:All right, I got one last question. It's been awesome, Kevin. We'll definitely have you back on during the season. Everyone check. You're all over the place. Do you have any big, big things coming up? So you obviously have your show on ESPN2. The Omaha thing, that'll be on ESPN2 and ESPN News all season. We don't have any big things coming up. Not really. You're going to be on Get Up? Get Up, first take, NFL Live probably going forward. and that's basically it. I don't have much to plug. This is football rig with your pods and it's on TV and all that stuff. Omaha Productions. I love it. All right, so my last question, Roback question.

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2:21:20PFT Commenter:Right. So there's that. Championship game, go Rams-Eagles. Commanders are really good. I want to pick them. I just can't. Sorry, buddy. No, I hear you. And then Bears, I'm not. No, I didn't expect you to. AFC, I'm going to go Ravens-Bills. Okay. Just a classic. I was going to say Broncos. Just a classic. That's another. Ravens-Bills would be a rent-a-kid situation. Oh, man. Seriously. Seriously. Well, I'm excited because football is about to be back. Yeah. I love it. There's nothing better. Oh, give us a win total for the Miami Hurricanes. Two losses. So they open with Notre Dame. Then they have Florida on the third or fourth week of the season.

2:22:00Fourth week of the season. They'll split those. And then they got the ACC. They got the ACC. Two November games on the road at Pitt and at Virginia Tech. Pat Narduzzi would love nothing more than just an annoying four turnover, a couple fumbles, probably a night game in Pitt. I'll probably be there. My son's probably rattled as hell. I could see that being the second loss. Yeah, Stephen A. Smith is going to be shocked week one

2:22:25Big Cat:when you're like, I'm actually on the convicts.

2:22:30PFT Commenter:All right. Well, Kevin, awesome time having you here. Thanks for coming in. Good luck on the rest of the trip. And let Dan Campbell know. Give him the chip. I will. Here you go. I said you can't even drive a car without Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn.

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2:24:32PFT Commenter:uh two-time all pro it is aj brown from the three-time all pro my bad already bad i thought it was three pro bowls two-time all pro three-time all pro super bowl champion aj brown from the philadelphia eagles it is our grit week presented by hey dudes we start every interview the same What does the word grit mean to you? Just pushing past a point where you, your brain, or anyone else thinks you can go. I like that. I like that. Have you had that? How often does that come up in an NFL season where you're like, I'm at the limit right now, but I got to dig deep and go past that? A few times, late in the season, especially when your body doesn't want to respond the way you want it to.

2:25:20And you just keep going. You just find a way to get through it. Yeah. And believe it or not, those are some of my best days. Really? Yeah.

2:25:31Big Cat:Okay. What's an example of that? Playing hurt the back half of the season. Get my knee drained twice a week. Get my knee drained right before the game, the Washington game. Go out there and have a good performance. Then the following week, the following week, the following week. And shoot even the Super Bowl. right before the Super Bowl. How do you feel now? Ready to go. Pretty good. Is camp hard? Absolutely. Does it get any easier? I don't know, man. I don't know. You know, we had some tough, like the past two days were very tough. You know, Nick always said it takes what it takes. You know, us joking with him is like saying it's going to take all of us out.

2:26:15You keep on going at this rate. but it's uh it's been tough though it's cool though yeah yeah the um by the way the i don't

2:26:24PFT Commenter:know if it's a good thing or a bad thing but it's a good thing for you uh have you seen the completion of the trade from tennessee to philadelphia might be the best trade the eagles have ever made and because they got you and everything you've done does that feel at least good to be in like i they took a chance on me they got me and i basically overperformed to like an insane level in terms of the return. Yeah, you know, I'm grateful that happened. And I like to say, like, you know, I grew that situation in Tennessee. You know, I'm glad this happened because I feel like I was meant to shine and we needed a big team with a big market, you know, and I think this is the right place and the best fit for me, you know.

2:27:06I am a little sad, you know, for Traylon Burks, and I wish he could, you know, get healthy because he's a good kid and I talked to him numerous times. I got his number, and it just sucks to see it go down like that. Yeah. Yeah, but so, yeah.

2:27:20Big Cat:Was there an adjustment period just living in Philadelphia, living in the Northeast for the first time? The weather. Yeah. Honestly, the weather. You know, it gets really cold here, and I wish it was kind of cold now. It's so hot outside. It is hot. It's so hot outside. You're from Starkville, right? Yeah, from Starkville. But you went to Ole Miss. Yeah. What was that like? Were people in Starkville mad? Oh, absolutely. I was getting death threats. Really? Really. Yeah, it was serious. And I didn't really take it serious. My dad, you know, took it very seriously. But, you know, I was just a kid, just getting ready to play football and just kind of breathed it off.

2:27:55PFT Commenter:Was it between the two? It was between Alabama and Ole Miss. Oh, so Mississippi State was never even in the run. So they can't even be mad. Yeah, but they just expected me to go there. Right. So when I closed out the recruiting, I remember telling Dan Mullen, saying, I don't want to – you no longer can recruit me. I don't want to, I'm not coming here. And that's when it just kind of started to like, oh, shoot, like, look what we've done. We done messed up. And shoot, long story short, you know, I had this, I had this challenger, white challenger with a rare strike. Everybody knew it was me. Had the license plate 1K.

2:28:29And shoot, I was getting followed. People taking pictures of my car, posting it online. And I didn't even know it. I'm a kid. And my dad was like, oh, this is serious. Yeah.

2:28:39Big Cat:So you're 17 years old and you're having people follow you around. Yeah. Stargavell.

2:28:43PFT Commenter:Damn.

2:28:44Big Cat:That's messed up. Was it Brandon Walker? Yeah, Brandon Walker. We might know who did that.

2:28:48PFT Commenter:Yeah, we probably do. We could probably get him arrested. I'll beat the shit out of him. I'm like, what? We know exactly who did it. I got a dumb question for you, but I feel like this had to have something to do with it. How much was it the jersey colors to be like Ole Miss over Mississippi State? Or Alabama even? Mississippi State doesn't have the best jersey colors. And they are Adidas too. I'm not an Adidas fan. I'm not throwing a shot at Adidas, but I'm not an Adidas fan. The cleats. That's a shot at Adidas.

2:29:15Big Cat:Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. But the SPI was like, I decided not to go to the school because of their shoes. But the colors stink. I mean, I just I would just prefer, you know, Nikes, you know, and but I will tell you this, though. I didn't choose Georgia because I got recruited from Georgia. I didn't choose Georgia because I don't like wearing black socks. Oh. Yeah. That may be crazy, but I hate wearing black socks.

2:29:38PFT Commenter:No, I think people don't ever put in a 17-year-old. Obviously, whether you're being close to home or the coaching staff. But I feel like you played the game online. You played the video game. Jersey combinations do matter a little bit. It absolutely does. Because putting on black socks with black cleats is just so hideous. It's slow. It's so hideous to me. It's slow. Because when I put on white, I feel so fast and so smooth. It's just something about it. What are your fastest cleats? Because non-white cleats, your fastest cleats. Because I have an answer. I don't know if you have the same answer.

2:30:08The fastest cleats? I don't know. Something white. It doesn't matter.

2:30:12PFT Commenter:No, you had these neon green ones that looked so fast. I literally remember against Tampa. It might have been. I was just like, this is the fastest anyone's ever looked. And the NFL said, take those off. Yeah, because you were too fast. That's exactly why.

2:30:28Big Cat:They were like, those cleats can't be legal. Did you used to play NBA Jam when you go turbo mode, your shoes glow? That's what they were. You're like, that's not allowed. So are you faster in Eagles colors than you were in Titans colors? I mean, I'm faster now, so you can say that. The colors have anything to do with it? No, because I did like the part of blue uniforms.

2:30:49PFT Commenter:I loved it. Yeah. Those are nice. Those are nice. Big story. Obviously, you guys win the Super Bowl, but one of the big stories for you this year was reading a book on the sideline, Inter Excellence. When that happened, were you like, this is insane that it's blown up like this and everyone's going crazy? Yeah. Yeah, they came and talked to me in the locker room and said, hey, they got you on the sideline reading the book. And I'm like, OK, but I do it every week. It's like, nah, this is this is big time this time. And it just blew up. And obviously, you know, I had great intentions behind it.

2:31:23I wasn't seeking attention or anything. But, you know, I'm glad it changed his life, you know, because, you know, from from what we discussed, you know, from just the hearing just how the book, just the sales started to go crazy. You know, I'm happy that it changed someone's life. Yeah.

2:31:39PFT Commenter:And you also have a literacy foundation, which is doing great work. So tell me about that because I got a pitch for you after that. I have so many ideas. I don't want to really get onto it. We can talk about it after off cameras. But you're helping, you know, kids learn how to read. Absolutely. You know, my foundation is based on mentorship and giving back and doing stuff like that. And that's something I'm proud of too because when I grew up, I didn't used to like to read. I didn't like to read. And so as I got older, I started to learn more and to stop being on my phone so much because social media, I feel like my brain fries.

2:32:17You know, I've been looking at it for so long and it's like I'm looking at stupid stuff. You know, I just wanted to push myself and educate myself in different areas in different ways.

2:32:26PFT Commenter:Okay. All right. So here's my pitch. We're writing a book right now. Okay. 10-year anniversary of this podcast coming out next year. What if you write a chapter in the book so there's less work for us, and then everyone in your literacy foundation has to read our books. You've got to buy a lot of them too, but you get to write a chapter. Thoughts? It's a pretty good deal. Think about all the kids that are going to be reading. We might be a New York Times bestseller. You can then say you're a New York Times bestseller. or I could just wait until my book comes out. That's fair. We'll write a chapter in your book.

2:33:05Yeah, we'll put a chapter in your book. We'll do a home and home. All right.

2:33:11PFT Commenter:You're going to do our book in 2026 and we'll do your book in 2035. We'll go visit your place. My book is going to come out sooner. Where's your book coming out? I don't know yet, but it's way sooner than 2035. What's your book about? Myself. Okay. You can plagiarize half our book if you need material. Yeah. Once it's written, it's free. I like the idea, though. Okay. All right. We can work on that.

2:33:38Big Cat:Do the kids want a chapter about Coach K in your book? Coach K?

2:33:41PFT Commenter:Yeah. They can take that chapter from us. Yeah. He's a scumbag. That's what I'm going to write. All right. Yeah.

2:33:47Big Cat:I don't know what's going on. All right. Are you reading anything right now? Am I reading it? Nothing other than the Bible right now. Okay. Yeah. You're like you're actually going through the Bible. Are you going in order? No. So I read the Gospels already, and I got this study Bible that I use. So I just read 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, and I'm in Galatians right now. So sometimes I reread books of the Bible, but, you know, so. Are you a highlighter guy? Do you, like, see things? I do. And then you try to, like, practice whatever you've highlighted, whether it's the Bible or, you know, what you read on the sideline in your excellence, and then try to apply that in your day-to-day?

2:34:25Absolutely. That's something that like highlighting always helped me, especially with the Bible. But whenever I'm reading a book, it's just something that I always want to go back to. Like inner excellence, I had highlighted stuff that I just could flip to it and it just sparked my interest. But reading a Bible, it's kind of, it's a little different.

2:34:40Big Cat:So with inner excellence in particular, was there something that you took from that book that you just like straight up applied to how you go about your day to day?

2:34:48PFT Commenter:I applied it to my process during On the Field. Okay. So yeah. Yeah. I don't think people talk enough about the fact that you got drafted in MLB as well. So were you ever thinking about being a baseball player, and do you miss it? I miss it at times. I watched a couple of videos of me hitting the other day on my phone. Okay. And just the sound of the bat, it's a different type of feeling. Yeah. Yeah. And I do miss it. Did I consider it? when I was like 7 to 18, 17 or 18 years old, not so much because I started to fall in love with football. Yeah. Yeah. And football just took over. Yeah. Yeah. What position did you play?

2:35:33PFT Commenter:Center field. Okay. Oh, you must have had insane range. Yeah. And then how were you hitting your senior year of high school? I did really well. I batted above like 300. Okay. But it's high school. But it's still impressive to be drafted in two sports. That's not, you know, to be that good to be drafted out of high school in MLB and obviously be a high draft pick in the NFL. Yeah. And then I went to Ole Miss and I signed the contract, obviously, just for money reasons. With the MLB team? With the MLB team. Who was it? The Padres. Okay. Yeah. And got the signing bonus because it's there for me. Right.

2:36:10Why win you? Right. And so I did that, and I went to Arizona for, like, rookie ball, and I'm out there practicing with the team and everything. And I felt like I was the left one out, you know, and everybody speaks Spanish. I didn't speak Spanish. I didn't know any Spanish. And the whole team, it was just, you know, more Dominicans and everything. So it was just – it was tough. Yeah. It was tough, and I was ready to go.

2:36:38PFT Commenter:And you're a young kid. Yeah, I was ready to go. And you've fallen in love with football. I've fallen in love with football. I just wanted to get back to Ole Miss as soon as I could. But it's cool that you actually tried it. Yeah. And you got paid. Yeah, and I got paid. Right. It's a good deal. If you never tried it, there'd be a small part of you being like, man, what if? What if I had tried that?

2:36:53Big Cat:Do you remember when you fell in love with football? Yes, absolutely. Was there a moment? Yep. What was that? I was playing against West Point my junior year. I had four catches for four touchdowns and 205 yards. every time I touched the ball, I scored. And that moment, joking about it with my father, because he would say, if Nick Saban ever comes, like, you're going to Alabama, right? And we would always joke about it. And I was like, no, I'm not going to Alabama. And he was like, well, I'm going to knock you out and you're going to wake up in Alabama. And long story short, Nick Saban came, like, after that game.

2:37:34And that's when it was real for me. I was like, oh, I really can play this game. And my dad was like, you're going to Alabama.

2:37:42Big Cat:Yeah. I said, I'm still not going to Alabama, but I'm going to pursue this football thing. Yeah. And it just took off.

2:37:48PFT Commenter:Yeah. What was the final score of that game? I don't remember. You beat him? Yeah, we beat him. Beat West Point? Pretty bad. Yeah.

2:37:55Big Cat:Yeah.

2:37:55PFT Commenter:That's pretty good.

2:37:56Big Cat:That's where Brandon Walker, that guy that tried to – Tried to follow you. That's also why – Who is this guy?

2:38:01PFT Commenter:Yeah.

2:38:01Big Cat:He probably followed you because he beat West Point. He was double mad at you for that.

2:38:05PFT Commenter:I'm actually a booster at West Point. I helped fund their state championship. Is this a made-up character? No, he's real. He's too real.

2:38:12Big Cat:Trust me, I wish he was made up sometimes. Yeah. Okay.

2:38:15PFT Commenter:But now it all makes sense. You said four touchdowns? Four touchdowns. Four touchdowns. West Point's eye? Woo. And they call themselves Point City? Yeah. You were Point City that night. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. I'm going to look up this Brandon Walker. Don't. Don't. Don't. You'll get put on a list. We did ask Lane and Cam, and I'll ask you the same question, What week this year do you think Nick Sirianni will be on the hot seat from the fan base?

2:38:44PFT Commenter:Obviously, I'm going to say we're going to win. Yeah. But you know, like one loss and guys like that right there are going to say. If we somehow, somehow lose the first game of the season, it is up for Nick Sirianni. You're not wrong. It is up. It is up. The Cowboys. There will be a fan who will be like, I don't care that he just won a Super Bowl. They're going to call in to Whip, and it's going to spark a wildfire.

2:39:12Big Cat:He's a bum. This guy's a fraud. We're Super Bowl champion head coach ever. This place is so unique, and it can be positive, and most important, it can be very negative so quickly. Someone can call in to a radio show and say the most bizarre thing, and now all the pages on each platform who have very big platforms, and they're just going to run with it. And now it's a whole other story. And then it gets to the national media and then it's up. Yeah. Do they react when you go on Twitter and you put out some theories about how many days are in a year? Do you remember that? Because when you said this, I think I believe you.

2:39:55Big Cat:Okay. I think I believe you. You said the full year consists of 365.25 days. these are then designated 12 calendar months however there are 13 lunar months of 28 day cycles which are not titled each year the 0.25 of a day is accumulated making one full day every four years this is designated as leap year and the extra day is tacked onto the end of February which normally has only 28 days remaining months is I mean this is all real all true the remaining months are allocated either 30 or 31 days I understand that if you were old enough to originate the question and are literate you already know this and just like wasting time um so how many days are in are in your year in my year yeah first of all i did not tweet that that was not you oh no who tweeted that's a that's i would never tweet that long all right but i do believe some of that stuff okay yeah yeah i do believe some of that stuff you know i think time is relative honestly uh Einstein said that.

2:40:58I don't know.

2:41:01Big Cat:I don't... It's a safe space. It's not.

2:41:08Big Cat:I would pay a billion dollars. 100 % it's not. Whatever you say next is going to get clipped.

2:41:14PFT Commenter:It's not.

2:41:18I'm the kid, honestly. Because I know it's about YouTube. I'm the kid.

2:41:26as I, as I grown up, I'm 28 years old now. I'll say like three or four years ago, maybe even before then, I started to question what's being taught to us. Right. And if you question what's being taught to us in today's world, you are crazy, something's wrong with you, whatever. Right. But my question is who put who in charge to teach us these things such as, that's a black table. Right? And to me, that could be a white table. You'd be wrong. Well, how would I be wrong?

2:42:03PFT Commenter:It's your definition of black and white. That's what you need to do with your cleats. Hold on. Dude, you got to tell Goodell these aren't neon green, they're white. Listen, though. We've been taught. We go to school. They teach us. They put us in place and they teach us all these things, right? They teach us about history. They teach us about everything, right? who put them in charge to say this is correct and we have to learn this? Right? Like, that may be read to me. I think you're colorblind. I'm not colorblind. Okay. I'm not colorblind, but I'm just using this as an example. Yeah, no, healthy skepticism is a good thing.

2:42:43PFT Commenter:You know? Yeah. And so, like, all right, the moon landing.

2:42:46Big Cat:Yeah, let's talk about it. Stuff like that, right? Yeah. I mean, we were in the middle of the Cold War. we had to beat russia right like ussr the evil empire we had to flex our muscles they put that sputnik up in the sky we're like fuck we got to do something to just get in their heads okay stanley kubrick i'm gonna fly you out to las vegas let's film this shit think about this

2:43:06PFT Commenter:think about this well we we we should have you back on because we could we could talk about all this stuff um i got one last question it's a rowback question rhoback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts roback.com promo code take uh This has been awesome, AJ. We really appreciate it. A lot of fun. Zach, we've been telling him he's going to get a question all day. Zach, you got a question for AJ. I got a quick question if that's cool to you, man. After six seasons in the NFL, working on yourself, growing as a player, not only as a player but as a man, kind of getting experience, if you could go back to draft night and give yourself one piece of advice, would you do that?

2:43:42And if so, what would it be? Good question. I would tell

2:43:50Myself To not be hard on myself You know Looking back Because I actually did this yesterday Looking back I was watching some videos of myself And watched some highlights And everything I wanted When I was young I have now And The 28 year old me Wants more right because I'm always searching for the next thing but I would tell my I would tell the younger me just to be present and enjoy each and every day each and every day because it's different seasons that I go through that you're going to go through in this league and you have to learn to navigate through them and I just wanted so much so much so much so soon and sometimes I I sped up that process by overthinking too much and putting more pressure on myself.

2:44:43But me now, I just want to have fun. I just want to enjoy the moment, enjoy my teammates, enjoy the process, and just have fun and make the most of every single opportunity. And I haven't got relaxed, but I'm just finding ways to be present in this moment, even like this interview. Just enjoying myself, being present.

2:45:09Big Cat:great question that's great advice i think that the whole concept of like making it or or finally getting there is it teaches us some of the wrong stuff sometimes yeah like you always think i'll be fine i'm gonna once once i make it once i get this yeah once once i get this then it's the finish line and then that's that's it and then once you accomplish those goals you have for yourself you realize well i still feel the same as i did before i got there and that's when i think a lot of people start to realize take joy in the process of getting there and just in everything that you

2:45:40PFT Commenter:do yeah right yeah well aj yeah this has been awesome man really appreciate it we'd love to have you back on anytime maybe get in some conspiracy theories yeah be fun let's talk about we get a restraining order on brandon walker we can do it all let's talk about it best of luck this year man thank you thank y 'all aj brown was brought to you by our great friends at mountain

2:46:00Big Cat:dew you can hear hank drinking one right now delicious it sounds great when you crack open that dew can nothing better it's summertime you're gonna be hanging with your friends it's gonna be warm outside we're gonna be at camp barstool in a little bit we're gonna be drinking some mountain dew there gonna be on the course this afternoon gonna have a dew so refreshing if you're going to the river to the lake to go fishing nothing like bringing an ice cold can of mountain dew on the boat with you you might catch a bunch of fish like me and big cat you might catch a fish like Max. You might catch a big fish like Hank.

2:46:30Big Cat:Just bring your Mountain Dew out there. Nothing goes better with summertime than refreshing citrusy kick of Mountain Dew and the new graphics on the can. The logo looks awesome. Retro look. Established 1948 right there on the can. Good stuff. We love Mountain Dew. Get a dew in the new packaging and enjoy the refreshing citrusy kick of Mountain Dew.

2:46:51PFT Commenter:Okay, let's finish up. Guys on Chicks. Henry.

2:46:55Big Cat:Yes. Hey. I have a question. PFT. In the graphic that memes tweeted out for this guy's on chicks, who is that guy? Should I know that guy? That guy? Yeah. He was in a video at DJ's. Yeah. Okay. He's in a do variant. Okay. Got it. I was not familiar with his game.

2:47:14PFT Commenter:Yeah. It's the Rizzler's uncle.

2:47:19Rizzler would have been so good. Washington.

2:47:23PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah. That was awesome. hey guys i've listened to a lot of your podcasts in the car against my will parentheses unnecessary parentheses uh my boyfriend's keep peeing my boyfriend keeps peeing in the sink not just after a few beers every single day his excuse it's elite clock management because the sink is closer than toilet he says all great qbs make quick reads and that you have to take the easy excuse me Mountain Dew Burp. Take the easy completion. Last night, he legit called it a two-minute drill and fist pumped when he finished putting ramen in the microwave, then ran upstairs to pee, then back.

2:48:01I mean, downstairs. There's got to be a bathroom downstairs.

2:48:05Big Cat:There's a sink downstairs. Wait, did he run upstairs to the bathroom and then pee in the bathroom sink? That's what it sounds like. That's okay. Then back down before the microwave hit zero. He even brags about his accuracy under pressure. I'm going to brush my teeth right next to him. Yeah. I feel like the sink is kitchen sink.

2:48:21PFT Commenter:Yeah. Like, why would you pee in a bathroom sink? I do pee in the bathroom sink every now and then. Hold on. Hear me out. It's when I'm on the road and I don't want to turn on the lights and I don't know where everything is. Like, I'm in a hotel room. And the sink's easier to find than the toilet? Yeah. Or sometimes I'll do in the shower.

2:48:39Big Cat:I'll do that sometimes. I'll just open up a shower curtain and just pee right down the drain. Because I don't want to wake up. Yeah. Peeing in the bathtub is way easier. You're a huge target. So you're saying you're in the bathroom. which is very small.

2:48:52PFT Commenter:Well, sometimes you're in a bigger bathroom. It's usually a sink and then a toilet. Sometimes there's another door for the toilet, you know, when it's the last door for the toilet. Yeah. And it gets even darker in there. And sometimes - I'm just telling you. Sometimes you have the sink.

2:49:06Big Cat:Don't judge. You have the sink in a completely separate room that's not even the bathroom. Right. It's kind of in the living room. Yeah. And it's not in that one. That one, the last one we had that. Yep.

2:49:15PFT Commenter:No, that's actually not. That's the opposite of Rich. When the sink is in another room. Yeah, that's a low-class hotel. Yeah. That's literally a low-class hotel. In the living room, pretty much. It's like there's a sink with a microwave, and then there's just a toilet with a shower. That one I can... Yeah. That's as low-class... The sink is right next to your bed. Yeah, that's as low-class as a hotel room can get. Yeah. I'd pee in that one. Yeah. I think peeing in a sink in a bathroom is crazy. I will say that. I usually do my peeing in the sink. I think a kitchen sink is fine. A kitchen sink after doing the dishes is a reward for myself.

2:49:45PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, after you do the dishes. Right. Yeah. I do the dishes, then I pee, then I just do a little more soap. Done.

2:49:52Big Cat:When I let Blake out at night into the backyard to go pee, I usually just go out with him. Oh, definitely. We pee outside. Anywhere outside. We pee at the same time, and it's the greatest bonding experience you can have with a guy. No, anywhere outside. That's, you know. Yeah, you got it. Perks of being a guy.

2:50:08PFT Commenter:Facts. Sup, boys, and our sweet Prince Zach. Later this month, my husband will travel to an Airbnb in the mountains for three nights of our fourth fantasy draft. they draft on saturday morning whoa but but go up to essentially play golf drink heavily and fuck around all weekend yeah this has been going on for 15 years since they were 16 don't tell the cops he's more excited for this weekend and it's helped plan way more of it than our daughter's first birthday which is upcoming this weekend should i be mad or no normal behavior uh fantasy

2:50:38Big Cat:drafts they kind of replace bachelor parties once you stop going on them a lot of guys are just like They need an excuse to just get out there with boys.

2:50:45PFT Commenter:Also, fuck off with first birthday parties. Yeah. That's for you. For my kids, my oldest, we did them all. And then as my second and third, we started being like, we're not doing a real birthday party until four, three or four. Like, yeah. They can pick what they want. Yeah, right. And when they have friends, they don't have friends when they're one. they don't so the one a one-year-old's birthday party is pizza and cupcakes that's it that's all you need to do you take a picture light a candle they're gonna probably burn themselves that's it in and out so no he's correct if it was your kid's 10th birthday party i'd be like yeah that's kind of fucked up like get in the mix and it's gonna be some planning it's gonna be this time of year

2:51:34Big Cat:in the future but the first birthday party first and second yeah first second they won't remember No one remembers their second birthday party. It was my nephew's first birthday party about a month ago. I go down there and I'm like, I'm going to be a cool uncle. I know he likes banging on the piano that he's got. So I got him a plastic ukulele. And I was like, this will be fine. He can drop it, throw it around. He'll just mess with the strings. I bring it into the house and I'm like, here's your first birthday present. And then I see he has three other ukuleles already. Now he has four ukuleles.

2:52:03Big Cat:Oh, dude, we double up on trucks. Four ukuleles. That's so many ukuleles to have. And Max couldn't even get me one from Hawaii. Yeah.

2:52:10PFT Commenter:That's fucked up. Yeah, no, that was fucked up. That was fucked up. I want. Just get a truck next time.

2:52:14Big Cat:Yeah.

2:52:15PFT Commenter:Any truck.

2:52:16Big Cat:Does he want an El Camino?

2:52:17PFT Commenter:Yeah. If not, give it to three people.

2:52:20Big Cat:Yeah. Well, no, I gave it to Jaden so that Max wouldn't get his paws on it. Yeah. No, you have to get, that means you just have to buy another El Camino. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't.

2:52:27PFT Commenter:No, it doesn't. Yes, it does. You're a liar. First birthday party, though, is whack. So you have no right to be upset. As long as he attends. Take the picture. You could even do it on the wrong day. I mean that's the kind of stuff like I forgot like I think when my son started like preschool we forgot to take a picture the first day we just did the second day yeah I'll never know who cares this one is in the same vein but I feel like there is a huge I feel like a fantasy draft is easier to sell uh every year my boyfriend takes a trip with his friends to a casino to watch the first four days of March Madness yep this March they want to go to Scottsdale and we live in Texas he wants to fly out on a one-day trip there to scope out the venue to make sure the setup is to their liking why does he think this gigantic waste of money is okay uh he has to scope it out that where your seating arrangement for march madness is very important very important oh did i tell you my idea so uh uh saturday night eddie had his black block party and he had we we hired the Billy Joel impersonator was great vibes.

2:53:31PFT Commenter:I think for March Madness, I'm going to hire him and put him in a room, and when you have a bad beat, you can just be like, piano man. He just sits in there for like four days. We just pay him a retainer. Zero content can be made. Yeah, we could have a video on it. We can't obviously do audio, but you could like know a silent video of you sitting there just like doing a one-man concert. Like, think about the vibes. Be like, oh man, I just got my heart ripped out. I need some scenes from Italian restaurant. Max would love that. It would be great. You're in, right? No. It's going to cost a lot of money, but I think it's a good, yeah, like just an on-demand Billy Joel for all of March Madness.

2:54:09PFT Commenter:Yeah, just think of the visuals of us just like we could probably do it in this studio and then it is cut to you just sitting there one-on-one concert with the dude.

2:54:16Big Cat:I think the audio would be a big part of that.

2:54:19PFT Commenter:I think it's even funnier with no audio. Yeah. Just like a security cam feed. Yeah, right. of you just sitting there. Basically, it's an interrogation room, except it's you sitting in front of Billy Joel. Yeah, and you're singing Piano Man with him. Yeah. Yeah, good vibes. Just an idea. Okay. I like it. Yeah, just like a white room. Yeah. Well, that'd be bad for him, I guess. Yeah, he's got to sign on to it. He's got to be comfortable. Hey, fellas, hope all is well. My boyfriend is a huge sports fan, especially college basketball. I'm not that big of a sports fan, but went to a large university, and he went to a smaller mid-major.

2:54:53He grew up hating the school that I went to and still claims to this day that he would rather die a gruesome death than cheer for my school. It's so bad he won't even wear the same color blue as my school in our talks about the future. Duke is not a big school, though. No, he didn't go to Duke.

2:55:10PFT Commenter:He went to a mid-major. She went to a major.

2:55:13Big Cat:She said she went to a big school, so probably UNC. I think she went to UNC. This kid is a fan of Duke, but went to a mid-major because he couldn't get into Duke.

2:55:22PFT Commenter:Got it. I mean, same color blue has got to be. Yeah, yeah. It's got to be. And it's college basketball. Yeah. Maybe Kansas. In our talks about the future and children, this is something that I brought up. He said that our future children cannot be fans of both because you can't stand the thought of producing fans of my school. Is he being ridiculous? Thanks. Not ridiculous, but UNC's colors are a lot better. So you're kind of fucked.

2:55:49Big Cat:If it is UNC, you got to let it happen.

2:55:50PFT Commenter:Yeah.

2:55:51Big Cat:If it's Kentucky Also all Duke fans that didn't go to Duke are

2:55:57PFT Commenter:Yeah well it depends if they're rivals Like if this is Duke UNC Yeah I'm including you If Duke UNC that's tricky If it's like a Kansas or Kentucky I could have went to Duke How? Going to visit You can like go visit I have one friend that is going to be listening That's very mad that I just said that

2:56:18Big Cat:Maybe this person went to Kentucky the major school and then the other person went to Creighton the mid major school I just love saying that

2:56:28PFT Commenter:here's a little tip is you just you're not that serious kids are just going to do whatever they might not even like sports I don't think it's that I think this kid's being a little bit of a hard

2:56:36Big Cat:though you do have to if you've got rivals that are baked in you have to establish which teams the kid roots for or you have to bargain that be like I'll give you football yeah Kate and Beave Kate got I think Kate got Phillies Yeah, he got Phillies The Bee've got the Commanders Yeah Yeah Tough

2:56:54PFT Commenter:It's a good trade Well, I guess the Eagles would have been Yeah Actually, yeah Listen Okay You never know Great show, boys Great show Let's finish with numbers Three I got it Oh, I think I got it I think Mims had it Go check it

2:57:09Big Cat:I think it was Mims by I think Mims got it 22

2:57:16I'm here

2:57:16PFT Commenter:I'm gonna go with 40 I'm going to go with 60 if I don't have three. 45.

2:57:22Big Cat:I got you, bye.

2:57:23PFT Commenter:Definitely me. All right, 60. Great. 60. That was what you guessed last time, right? Yep. All right, perfect. 44. Shout out, Bill. 85. 99, Pug. What? I like 85. Why me? I like 85. 13. Because you get so mad every time. 44. 44. What were you, PFT? I got 45. Can't take 99, Pug. What do you got, Hank?

2:57:48Big Cat:2-2.

2:57:49PFT Commenter:No, you took it. Ooh. 84. 34. 34. Oh, someone's going to be pissed.

2:57:57Big Cat:Oh.

2:57:58PFT Commenter:Oh, thank God. It wasn't 84. Yeah, sorry for anyone who thought it was 84. My bad. My dad wanted me to take 84.

2:58:03Big Cat:Oh, that would be great. So your dad got it? No, it was 34. Love you guys.

2:58:19Thank you.

2:58:49Thank you.

2:59:18Thank you.

2:59:46Thank you.

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Hard Knocks is here and it was just ok, except for the Ice Cream. The league is trying to ban smelling salts and ESPN has bought the NFL Network (00:00:00-00:22:20). Hot Seat/Cool Throne and Hank is back from Sunday and has some bangers for the guys, plus the first coach's poll in College Football (00:22:20-00:57:13), Mt Rushmore of skills we wish we learned when we were younger (00:57:13-01:30:11). Kevin Clark joins us in studio to preview the upcoming NFL Season (01:30:11-02:21:58). AJ Brown joins us to talk Super Bowl, not going to Mississippi State, reading and tons more (02:21:58-02:45:57). We finish with guys on chicks (02:45:57-02:57:48).


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