Baker Mayfield & Alex Caruso, MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred, Scottie Scheffler Dominates The Open + Mt Rushmore Of Best Bad Movies

21 Jul 2025 · 2 h 34 min · 61 chapters

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In short

The hosts cover multiple sports and pop-culture segments: Scotty Scheffler’s dominance at the Open Championship (minus 17), debate whether Scheffler is “Tiger Woods” level, WNBA All-Star Game labor/compensation drama (“pay us what you owe us” shirts), MLB trade-deadline/roster-building talk, UFC fight recap (Max Holloway vs Dustin Poirier), and a “Mount Rushmore of best bad movies” discussion. They also do “Who’s Back of the Week” and “Heard or Injured” (Justin Herbert red contact lenses; Najee Harris injury update).

Guests (interviews mentioned)

Alex Caruso (NBA player) and Baker Mayfield (NFL quarterback) are interviewed together. MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred is also interviewed. (The episode also includes recurring host segments; no other named guests appear in the transcript.)

Guest backgrounds

Caruso is an NBA player; Mayfield is an NFL quarterback. Rob Manfred is the MLB Commissioner.

Key claims

Scheffler’s Open win was a rout; he was number one in putting this week after changing putters (previously ~170th in strokes gained putting). The hosts compare Scheffler’s major trajectory to Tiger Woods using specific “days between major wins” stats and argue Tiger’s dominance was different (more “lopsided” drama). WNBA players/teams are portrayed as losing money but also growing due to TV/merch and the Caitlin Clark effect; the “pay us what you owe us” message sparks quote-tweet/meeting drama.

Notable examples

Rory McIlroy finding a buried “second ball” on the course; Bryson DeChambeau improving after a poor start; Kelsey Plum taking a shot at Caitlin Clark; Cubs beating Red Sox 2 of 3; Dustin Poirier’s legacy as a frequent title challenger and BMF belt holder.

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Chapters

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Chill Week Tradition

0:39 to 1:16

Discussion of the podcast's chill week tradition of featuring an NBA player and an NFL quarterback.

“We have our good friends Alex Caruso and Baker Mayfield together.”

Upcoming Interviews and Topics

1:16 to 2:47

Preview of guests and topics including Rob Manfred and Mount Rushmore of bad movies.

“We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of bad movies, which will surely be contentious.”

DraftKings Sponsorship

2:57 to 3:22

Introduction to the DraftKings sponsorship and NFL best ball contest.

“Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings.”

Scotty Scheffler's Dominance

3:22 to 3:54

Discussion on Scotty Scheffler's impressive performance in the Open Championship.

“Download the DraftKings app and use code TAKE.”

Rory's Shot and Course Conditions

3:54 to 4:50

Discussion about Rory's shot and the conditions at Portrush during the Open Championship.

“No, I'm saying it's the last Monday show that's not in a football week.”

Old Ball Discovery

4:50 to 5:07

Conversation about the discovery of an old ball during the Open Championship.

Scotty's Putting Improvement

5:07 to 7:28

Analysis of Scotty Scheffler's putting improvement and Rory's influence.

“And also, holy shit, Rory just hit a shot that I hit a million times when I golf.”

Scotty vs. Tiger Comparisons

7:28 to 9:23

Exploration of comparisons between Scotty Scheffler and Tiger Woods.

“But yeah, his first win on tour was three and a half years ago.”

Tiger's Legacy vs. Scotty's Potential

9:23 to 11:55

Discussion on Tiger's remarkable achievements compared to Scotty's potential.

“Another crazy Tiger stat because there's so many of them.”

Scotty's Perspective on Golf and Life

11:55 to 13:39

Scotty Scheffler's perspective on golf and maintaining balance in life.

“And obviously, Scottie doesn't care about this because he seems like maybe the most grounded, well-adjusted athlete ever.”
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Hypothetical Matchup: Tiger vs. Scotty

13:39 to 14:00

Speculating on a match play scenario between a prime Tiger Woods and Scotty Scheffler.

“Dude, Tiger used to, and Scotty's getting close to this, but I remember.”

Tiger Woods vs. Scottie Scheffler

14:00 to 16:00

Discussion about the differences and similarities between Tiger Woods and Scottie Scheffler's dominance in golf.

“There were many tournaments where Tiger, it was even money.”

Scottie Scheffler's Performance and Impact

16:00 to 19:20

Analysis of Scottie Scheffler's tournament performances and the impact of his style on viewers.

“27 starts stretch where he won 16 tournaments, including four majors.”

Bennett Scheffler: The Baby Star

19:20 to 21:40

Discussion about Bennett Scheffler's frequent appearances at tournaments and his growing popularity.

“Is Bennett Scheffler the most well-known baby currently?”

WNBA's Financial Struggles and Growth

21:40 to 28:00

Examination of the WNBA's financial situation, salaries, and the impact of rising stars like Caitlin Clark.

“Because when the Tiger stuff happened, I don't think anybody, it was a massive story, but I don't think anyone was like, oh my gosh, this doesn't seem like Tiger Woods that I know.”

Team Drama and T-Shirt Controversy

28:00 to 31:04

Discussion about the drama surrounding Kelsey Plum and Caitlin Clark's teams related to a T-shirt incident.

“pay us what you owe us with more facts that I might believe in the moment, and then I'll be like, well, let me look into this a little bit more.”

Baseball Trade Deadline Talk

31:04 to 35:18

Conversations on MLB trade deadline implications and team performances.

“They are the best record in the NL tied with the Brewers.”

Eagles Super Bowl Rings Discussion

35:18 to 37:48

Debate about the aesthetics and significance of the Eagles' Super Bowl rings.

“Well, actually, no, Max, we have one other thing, the Eagles Super Bowl rings.”

Eagles Super Bowl Rings Discussion

37:53 to 38:16

Debate about the aesthetics and significance of the Eagles' Super Bowl rings.

“Be the guy in the living room who sees it all.”

Justin Herbert's Red Contact Lenses

38:16 to 42:00

Discussion on Justin Herbert's new red contact lenses and other NFL player updates.

“Justin Herbert, because he's wearing red contact lenses.”

UFC Minute: Max Holloway vs. Dustin Poirier

42:24 to 45:31

Discussion on the recent UFC fight between Max Holloway and Dustin Poirier, including insights and personal anecdotes.

“Max Holloway, who I was pulling for, I predicted in our preview last week.”

UFC Strategy and Commentary

45:31 to 47:25

Hosts share their thoughts on UFC strategies, including the need for more aggressive fighting and personal viewing experiences.

“I texted JackMacCFB, give me your plays, and three out of four lost, and that's basically what I got.”

Chef Donnie's Knife Game

47:25 to 51:05

A humorous conversation about a dangerous game involving throwing knives, including past experiences and safety considerations.

“They should be standing up and just throwing Yeah, yeah It'd be a much better sport Like boxing?”

NFL Labor Strife and Controversies

51:05 to 56:00

In-depth discussion on recent controversies in the NFLPA, including Lloyd Howell's resignation and collusion allegations in player contracts.

“Oh, Stephen Chay just sent us a Dingers Only update.”

Strip Club Discussion and Investigations

56:00 to 58:30

Hosts discuss the implications of a player's strip club outing and joke about it.

“And he did start talking like he was talking to a four-year-old.”

Coldplay Discussion and Controversy

58:30 to 1:01:25

The hosts talk about Coldplay's tour and a viral kiss cam incident involving a CEO.

“We will not ask you at all about hiding the collusion of Lamar Jackson.”

Separate Finances in Relationships

1:01:25 to 1:03:26

Discussion about Jerry O'Connell's revelation on finances with his wife.

“So Jerry, he could be paying for the whole league.”

Pittsburgh Pirates Honor Mac Miller

1:03:26 to 1:05:11

Hosts share the Pittsburgh Pirates' tribute to Mac Miller and community impact.

“I actually kind of hope Jerry walked out of that interview and looked at his wife and was like, why'd you fucking say that?”

Mount Rushmore of Best Bad Movies

1:06:16 to 1:10:01

Hosts debate the criteria for selecting movies for their best bad movie list.

“I was sitting up in my office and I heard you're ready to go.”

Discussing the Best Bad Movies

1:10:01 to 1:11:11

The hosts engage in a lively discussion about their selections for the best bad movies.

“Well, yeah, there's better Nick Cage movies, but.”

Kangaroo Jack and Its Misleading Premise

1:11:12 to 1:12:18

The group shares thoughts on 'Kangaroo Jack' and its unexpected plot twists.

“We were just talking about him, Kangaroo Jack.”

Choosing More Bad Movies

1:12:19 to 1:13:26

The hosts continue selecting from their lists of bad movies, debating their merits.

“I like 4 Scary Movie 2 is a 13 % compared to 60 % of Con Air, by the way Who, like who?”

Action Movies and Jean-Claude Van Damme

1:13:27 to 1:14:45

The conversation shifts to action films, particularly focusing on Jean-Claude Van Damme's movies.

“I'd be like yeah that makes sense it's a fucking awesome movie great cast alright rip it Zach you love this movie I love this movie I love that you love this movie we would like to take Paul Blart Mall Cop.”

Exploring Spoof Films

1:14:46 to 1:15:51

The hosts dive into their favorite spoof films, citing humor and notable quotes.

“The problem is I have a list of bad movies that probably no one has seen because it's like all action.”

Animated Movies and Their Ratings

1:15:52 to 1:18:08

Discussion turns to animated movies and their surprisingly low ratings.

“And then the last one for bad, good movie.”

Contemplating the Worst Good Movies

1:18:09 to 1:19:46

The group speculates on movies that are considered great yet don't resonate with them.

“I'm actually going to watch it with my kids.”

Reflections on Bad Movies

1:19:47 to 1:24:01

In the final stretch, the hosts reflect on their love for bad movies and share more examples.

“Yeah, I'll just rip my Jean-Claude Van Damme, Steven Seagal action movies.”

Mount Rushmore of Bad Movies

1:24:01 to 1:28:04

The hosts discuss and debate their favorite bad movies, sharing opinions and insights.

“I honestly think the right answer for this would be Rocky Balboa.”

Interview with Baker Mayfield and Alex Caruso

1:29:29 to 1:38:02

An engaging interview with Baker Mayfield and Alex Caruso discussing their sports careers and experiences.

“Okay, we now welcome on two very special guests.”

Celebrating Championships and Parades

1:38:02 to 1:40:40

Learn about the excitement and festivities surrounding championship celebrations.

“My fiance, she was taking – she's in the back.”

Baker Mayfield's Fan Interactions

1:40:41 to 1:42:59

Explore Baker's thoughts on fan interactions and jersey choices.

“Situation where you take a knee, go to the playoffs, but we decided to throw it on first and 10.”

The NBA vs NFL Crossover Debate

1:43:00 to 1:44:26

Discuss which athletes could transition between the NBA and NFL.

“Or have you played with guys who you've, like, seen hoop and you're like, holy shit?”

The State of College Football

1:44:27 to 1:46:48

Baker shares insights about the challenges facing Oklahoma football in the SEC.

“Baker, maybe you give us a cut for your new contract when you sign another one.”

Rivalries and Team Hatred

1:46:49 to 1:48:38

Baker and Alex discuss sports rivalries and teams they dislike.

“We haven't been very – not to that level since.”

Video Game Strategies in Sports

1:48:39 to 1:50:48

Learn about video game tactics and experiences in sports scenarios.

“Yeah, playing some college ball for sure.”

Understanding Athlete Confidence

1:50:49 to 1:52:00

Discuss the mental aspects of confidence in sports performance.

“I mean, he's full of energy all the time.”

Discussing the Feeling of Confidence in Sports

1:52:00 to 1:53:34

Learn about the emotional highs athletes experience during peak performances.

“So all of a sudden your confidence and your imagination gets a little.”

Post-Game Comforts and Diets

1:53:55 to 1:56:49

Explore athletes' pre-game routines and post-game comfort meals.

“Oh, Bigger, how are we doing today, my man?”

Favorite Aspects of Lake Tahoe

1:56:49 to 1:58:15

Hear about the beauty and recreational activities in Lake Tahoe.

“Double cheeseburger, get two patties, a lot of protein.”

Closing Remarks with Guests

1:58:15 to 1:58:35

Wrap-up of the conversation with Baker Mayfield and Alex Caruso.

Discussion on MLB All-Star Game and Future Plans

1:59:25 to 2:06:00

Insights from Rob Manfred about the All-Star Game and MLB's future adaptations.

“Let's start with, though, congratulations for an incredible All-Star game.”

Evaluating Robot Umpires in Baseball

2:06:00 to 2:07:51

Discussing the effectiveness and future of robot umpires in MLB.

“Right now, we're after the All-Star Game.”

Challenges in Baseball Ownership

2:07:51 to 2:09:52

Exploring the issues around ownership and competitiveness in MLB.

“A lot of people have talked about the salary cap floor in exchange for the salary cap.”

Franchise Values and Fan Expectations

2:09:52 to 2:12:29

Understanding the relationship between franchise values and fan satisfaction.

“Yeah, I think that you do have conflicting interests sometimes because you've got the reality is that in baseball, you don't have to spend money to make money if you own a team.”

Commissioner's Perspective on Ownership Dynamics

2:12:29 to 2:13:59

The commissioner's view on ownership and competitive efforts in MLB.

“You know, I can't tell you that it doesn't look like that sometimes.”

Debating Changes to Baseball Rules

2:13:59 to 2:16:41

Discussing potential rule changes and their implications for the game.

“I have to say I think I'm like a lot of prudent first pitch throwers.”

The Science of Baseballs

2:16:41 to 2:18:11

Analyzing the production and consistency of baseballs used in games.

“they're super juice this year, but it does feel like there is a difference year to year.”

A Day in the Life of a Commissioner

2:18:11 to 2:20:01

Insights into the daily responsibilities and challenges of an MLB commissioner.

“you are the second commissioner on part of my take, I always want to know, what does a commissioner do on a day-to-day basis?”

Rob Manfred's Love for Baseball

2:20:01 to 2:25:20

Rob Manfred discusses his long career in baseball and emotional moments from the All-Star game.

“You know, I actually, honestly, I'm getting old.”

Football's Back!

2:25:31 to 2:26:52

The hosts exuberantly discuss their excitement for the return of football and college teams.

“My last question is, do you think the 50-50 raffles at each stadium are rigged, and how the hell can I win it?”

Game Numbers and Chain Reactions

2:26:52 to 2:29:19

A playful conversation among the hosts about game numbers and unexpected outcomes.

“Who's your college team going to be this year?”
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1:16PFT Commenter:We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of bad movies, which will surely be contentious. We also are going to talk about good bad movies. Good bad movies? Good bad movies. You said bad movies. Bad movies that are... It's already contention. It's the best worst movies. It's the Mount Rushmore bad movies. What did I say? The best worst movies? Yeah, but Mount Rushmore bad movies implies that they're good because they're on the Mount Rushmore bad movies. Bad movies that are also good. Bad movies that are good. Okay. Bad movies was the text that was sent. I'm ready for it either way. I'm ready for it.

1:47This is going to be the most contentious Mount Rushmore. It will be. I'm ready for it.

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4:02When is the Hall of Fame? There is football next Thursday night.

4:04PFT Commenter:Got it, got it, got it. This is the last full week of no football on the show. Until February. Got it, got it. Pretty fucking cool. Oh, Hank. Hank. Jumping the gun a little bit. I thought it was the last Monday. Next Monday you're still not going to be talking about football. Hank's right on that. I thought you meant the last Monday show we don't talk football. Jump in the gun. But Hank hates it when we say that football is back. It's not. You hate it. It won't be back next Monday either. Shut the fuck up, Hank. He's right on that. But we will next week have football, which we will not talk about for more than maybe three minutes because they don't even play the second stringers in the ball.

4:39PFT Commenter:Yes, third stringers. Yeah, third stringers. Scotty Scheffler's the man. He is the man. Big time. He absolutely dominated the Open Championship. Won minus 17. Portrush did not show up. uh that was also the wind yeah that those courses from the little i know about lynx golf uh in the uk or northern ireland or ireland you pretty much need the wind otherwise uh it's not as tough of a course maybe some some harder rain some big fat riding uh but there was not that much to see from port rush the only cool thing that the course did this week was it it unearthed a second ball when rory hit that one shot pretty crazy i so i was watching that live dead ball I thought he had fucked up and picked up his ball.

5:23PFT Commenter:I was like, why did he just do that? And also, holy shit, Rory just hit a shot that I hit a million times when I golf. And then that just shows how good Rory is that he knew right away that wasn't his ball. Of course, he flushed it. But that was cool. It was awesome. That ball had been there forever. Yeah, I want to know what the marking on that ball was. I want to know what the procedures. Do they have people before these tournaments that go through all the weeds, all the fescue, and they just pull out old balls? That thing was buried. It was buried. It was, I'd say, maybe four, three, four inches underground.

5:53Yeah. Like, the earth has evolved since that ball plugged in there.

5:57PFT Commenter:But when he picked it up, I was just like, holy shit, what is he doing right now? Do you have that same feeling, Hank? I thought that was his shot for sure. Me too. I was like, oh, he just mishit it, and now he's going to be penalized. Nope. Second ball. It's kind of like when it happens, you know, Wrigley, when a second ball pops out of the ivy. Yeah. When you hit one into the ivy, and there's two balls that come out. A little time capsule in there. Yeah, it's fun. Now, Rory should also feel bad because Rory has unleashed Scotty Scheffler on the world by encouraging him to change his putter like two years ago.

6:25So I looked up some of the stats. Scotty Scheffler, before he changed the putter, he was like 170th on the PGA Tour in strokes gain putting. He's awesome at putting. This week, he was number one.

6:38PFT Commenter:Yeah. He was the best. And since changing to the new putter, he's hovered like top 20. Yeah. So Rory, you fucked everything up, buddy. He also, I mean, we said this after the Masters when Rory was like, hey, this might unleash Scotty. And it has unleashed Scotty. It's the year of Scotty. Wins his second major of the year. It's also crazy to put in perspective that February 13, 2022, I bring up that date. Why? That was Scotty Scheffler's first PGA Tour win. That's three and a half years ago. That's not like, I think we've had this conversation before. Scotty Scheffler, how good he is, and also how much older and dignified he looks to his age.

7:18PFT Commenter:Is he like 29 still? I think he's 29. He turns 30 on the Sunday of the U.S. Open next year, which is the only major that he hasn't won yet. It feels like he's been around forever because he's been so dominant in these three and a half years. But yeah, his first win on tour was three and a half years ago. And yeah, he has 17 wins. He's been awesome. He's been awesome. It was the exact same number of days between his first major win and his fourth major win as it took Tiger Woods between his first major win and his fourth major win. So I'm happy you brought that up because I wanted to talk about this because Scotty was so good at the Open that we had nothing to talk about, so naturally it became Scotty versus Tiger.

7:58PFT Commenter:Is he Tiger? And then that stat came out that it was the exact same amount of days. It was 1 ,719 days, I believe, was in between the first and the fourth. Yep. It also was the exact same, I think, number of starts for him and Rory in terms of their fourth major win, and then Rory had like 30 more starts to get his fifth. But the only reason I wanted to bring this up is because it did become Scotty versus Tiger. And, yes, that is a crazy stat that it took them, yeah, 1 ,197 days between their first major and their fourth major. Tiger Woods then won the next two majors that he played in. And Tiger Woods at that point got the Tiger Slam.

8:42PFT Commenter:Those were the next two to get the Tiger Slam. So that was his fifth major was to get the PGA Championship, and then his sixth major was to get the Masters, and they were literally the next two starts. So I'm not saying that Scottie can't be Tiger, but we got to pump the brakes on Scottie as Tiger because I saw also there was a bunch of stats going around where they picked like a three-year window. it's basically Scotty's last three and a half years in Tiger 2020 or 2002 to 2005 which is just that's erasing his slam right and I went and looked and again this is I love Scotty Schauffler I hope he is Tiger because that would be awesome for golf but it also is a good reminder of like I think people need to remember how awesome Tiger Woods was so Tiger Woods so Scotty has 134 PGA starts he's won 17 times he has four majors tiger in his first 134 pga starts had 32 wins and eight majors so almost double on both uh just showing how crazy is tiger also in his first 250 pga starts won 71 times and he finished top three 115 times almost half the time he was top three and he had more major wins 14 than he had missed cuts 13 that's his first 250 starts uh also tiger woods we mentioned the slam tiger had uh a 27 start stretch in 99 and 20 in 2000 27 starts how many tournaments did he win hank 27 these are pga tour events 27 starts how many did he win 11 16 that's insane including four majors think about that for a second he literally would just win 65 of the time that they that they would have a pga tour event for that like year you can do all these advanced stats i i go off one and that's the chipotle quotient and that's how what percentages of chipotles could tiger woods walk into and be able to eat a meal without being recognized it was probably like zero percent zero scotty scheffler is batting 50 in his own city that's true right That's true.

10:51PFT Commenter:Another crazy Tiger stat because there's so many of them. And, again, love Scotty. Scotty won. So this is his 10th consecutive tournament win when holding the outright 54-hole lead. Basically, if he's winning the first three days, he's going to win the tournament. How many times do you think Tiger Woods did it? 30. Consecutive. 20. 37. Jesus. 37 consecutive times Tiger Woods had the 54-hole lead and won the tournament. And then another crazy one, Tiger Woods won five PGA Tour events in a row, three separate times. That's crazy. Five in a row, three separate times. Yeah, you're right. The only thing that you can talk about when it becomes a lopside victory is like, is this man Tiger Woods?

11:39It's not fair to Scottie. Whenever we have a young NBA player that's coming up, the only thing we can think to say like, is this guy Michael Jordan's son? Right. Because he was really good. When you watch a guy dominate golf, you're like, is this the same as we felt with Tiger Woods? It's not going to be the same. Tiger Woods was just unreal. And I think Scottie has to stay ranked number one in the world for the next 10 years to equal Tiger's reign, right?

12:00PFT Commenter:And obviously, Scottie doesn't care about this because he seems like maybe the most grounded, well-adjusted athlete ever. The quote he gave before the tournament, he obviously – people took it different ways where he's like, you know, I win a major and I'm happy for a couple minutes. he kind of cleaned it up or explained it better today where he's just like look it's this is I love golf like reaching this pinnacle is incredible but if it if everything in my life was defined by golf well then maybe he would be Tiger Woods yeah but like that's that's the he's very like it's actually incredible for an athlete to be able to say that like I'm really really good and I love winning and I love competing but I have more in life that gives me fulfillment and fills my heart and that also really has to suck for everyone who scotty's going against because he's basically like yeah he's like yeah the winning the another major is awesome but you know what's even better having a family being a well-rounded human being yeah yeah uh tiger was never really a well-rounded human being i don't think that anybody said like when he was dominant that this guy he's really got it all yeah scotty though i didn't take it when he was saying like yeah my family all that stuff i didn't take it to mean that he he doesn't love golf i think either did i i think he's a fucking psycho correct who loves golf correct but he's even more of a psycho who loves his family and also understands that if golf is the only thing that defines you there's yeah he's on an incredible streak right now but there will be a streak where he's not on an incredible streak and if golf is the only thing that defines you then you just become a depressed person and you have no meaning in your life and it's pretty good that he's got the wherewithal to be like i have meaning i find meaning in a lot of different places All right, so Tiger Woods against Scotty Scheffler, match play, 18 at Augusta, both in their primes.

13:46Tiger. Tiger minus 180.

13:50PFT Commenter:Dude, Tiger used to, and Scotty's getting close to this, but I remember. Tiger did it all with crabs, too. Pretty impressive. Yeah. I remember this because, Scotty, I think, what was he before this tournament? Was he like plus 350? Plus 400. Plus 400? He was plus 450. There were many tournaments where Tiger, it was even money. Yeah. It was Tiger versus the field. It was the bet you were making. And, yeah, I think it's also what we do in all sports because we want the thing that we thought we'd never see again to be something we're seeing again, where we say, oh, watching Tiger in his prime was an insane, almost religious experience.

14:29PFT Commenter:We want that to happen again. And Scotty might get there because he's starting off in a way that, like, If he stacks up another – if he duplicates these next three and a half years the same as these last three and a half years, he still wouldn't be as dominant as Tiger. But it would be pretty damn close. You know what the difference is? With Scottie, when he's winning these tournaments, we want there to be drama at the end. Well, that's kind of what Tiger did too. We don't know, but I think it was totally different. I think with Scottie, it's like you want there to be drama in the final round.

14:59After it's kind of a boring final round, Scottie just keeps making par putts when you think he might slip up. and he ends up winning the whole thing. We're like, it would have been nice if it was closer at the end. With Tiger Woods, when you were watching Tiger, you were tuning in specifically to watch Tiger beat the fuck out of everybody. You got more excited the more lopsided that the fight got. Scotty hasn't gotten to that place yet.

15:20PFT Commenter:No. I don't know that he will. I don't know if he will either, but he's awesome. And it's very cool to see him be as dominant as he's been. I think it could turn into a Jordan-LeBron thing too where Scotty could just play more and get better stats. Yeah. But people will always be like, it's just not Tiger. We should also say that, I mean, Scotty probably is playing against tougher opponents. Yeah, definitely. Because the Tiger effect. All people inspired by Tiger. Correct, are here. And so that absolutely should be stated. And again, this is 0 % slight on Scotty because I love him. It's just that Tiger, we just need to remember every now and then how incredible Tiger was.

16:01PFT Commenter:Yeah. And just how insane that stretch. I mean, again, what did I say? Was it 27 starts and he won 16 of them? Yeah, it's pretty incredible. That's insane. 27 starts stretch where he won 16 tournaments, including four majors. That's so stupid. I do think all the perspective stuff helps Scotty when it comes to his bounce back stats. Yeah. Did you see the stat that they put out where it's like If he hits a bogey, 36 % of the time, the next hole, he's going to make a birdie. Yeah. Just wipe it out. Yeah. It was like - And the tour average is, I think, 13%. Yeah. And he does it over a third of the time.

16:39PFT Commenter:Because there was that stretch today when I was watching where it was, I think he was up eight early and eight strokes. And then it was, I was like, I walked back to the TV and it was like four. Yeah. He said, oh shit, this could be something. And then he just corrected it right. And then he had like two long par putts, like 10, 15 footers that he made. And it was just over. Also, shout out to Godderup. Yes. He's like a European genius. He's great in Scotland, great in Northern Ireland. Probably might be listening to part of my take right now. Confirmed AWL. Shout out Oklahoma. Big year for Oklahoma.

17:13PFT Commenter:Yeah. So Chris Godderup, who we'll definitely have to have on at some point, But before, so what, nine days ago, ten days ago, his career earnings was$2 ,700 ,000. And then this past ten days, he won$2 ,700 ,000. That rocks. So he just doubled his career earnings in ten days. What are taxes like when you went over in the UK? I feel like you just don't have to pay them. Yeah, you just leave town. That's just not real. Just don't go back. Yeah, that's just not real. Also, I would say that Scottie is starting to get a little bit of the Tiger. Like, you can't beat Tiger on Sunday when he's up. Obviously, I talked about the 10th consecutive.

17:52PFT Commenter:That was his 10th consecutive. The Haotong Lee, who he played with. I like that guy. Yeah. He said, admitted he could be playing for a second. He said, I'm actually quite looking forward to it. Four shots behind. Kind of like play for second. Especially play with the world number one. I just try to play my best out there and hopefully make something happen. Yeah. That was before the round. Yeah. He was like, yeah, I'm just out there just going to try to. And I think he asked Scotty for, like, tips. And he was like, can we, like, play together when I come to the PGA Tour? And he looked like he was having a great time out there.

18:24Yeah, he did. He was, like, smiling and laughing. He knew that he wasn't going to beat Scotty. No one was going to beat Scotty.

18:28PFT Commenter:Do we think the other two things I had was I feel like the broadcast was trying to will Rory a little bit. Oh, yeah. The fans. Oh, yeah. Just a little bit. Yeah. A little bit. Scotty was demolished. There was a scene on 18 on Saturday that was acting like he was Sunday and he was winning. Yeah. One of the greatest scenes I've ever seen in sports. It was a little much. Yeah. Also, Bryson might have figured out Lynx golf. He did. He actually figured it out before the opening round, and then he forgot it during the opening round, but then he figured it out again. For the last three rounds. Yeah. The stinger that he hit in the practice round that topped out at, I think it was like 30 feet in the air, hit it like 190 miles an hour.

19:04That was a sick shot, but has he figured out Lynx golf? He might have. Thursday would have begged to differ.

19:09PFT Commenter:Because, yeah, what was his – he shot a 78, and then he followed it up with a 65, 68, 64. Pretty good. Yeah. So he could have been in the mix if he hadn't shot that 78. Mm-hmm. I have a question for you guys. Is Bennett Scheffler the most well-known baby currently? Yeah. Every Sunday. I would say it's like – Riley Curry status. Yeah, he had his moment when he fell, which was very cute. Riley was like Tiger, and now Bennett is like Scotty. Yeah. But, yeah, he's everywhere. The fall was very funny, holding the trophy. It seems like he's gotten used to holding championship trophies. It's literally every Sunday.

19:44He's really good at it. He's better than Colin Morikawa at holding championship trophies.

19:49PFT Commenter:I mean, that's got to be like 20 years from now, you just have a collage of all the trophies he held. Yeah. Pretty fucking cool as a baby. I also like how right after these rounds are done, right after he wins the championships, his wife just hands him the baby like, baby, you're on baby duty right now. Yeah. I wonder if we should try to get Bennett. I wonder if Bennett is getting bored of it. We can ask Scotty next time he comes on. Is Bennett, is he bored of all these trophies? Well, does Bennett have the perspective? Does he love his family more than he loves championship trophies? What if Bennett was like secretly boss baby and he was coaching Scotty and we just didn't know?

20:27PFT Commenter:Whispering? Yeah. What if he's the mastermind behind all of this? Yeah. I don't know. I'm not ruling it out. It has nothing to do with the fact that I watched Boss Baby four times this weekend with my kids. Is Bennett further ahead right now than Charlie Woods was? At the same age? How old is Charlie Woods? Was he 18, 17? Charlie Woods is 16. He was born in 2009. Yeah, no, Bennett's way ahead. Because Tiger, 2009 is when Tiger started to, I think that was Navy SEALs Tiger. When did he come back? Also, the craziest thing about Tiger Woods that people forget is he was by far the best golfer in the world.

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21:02and he just decided, I'm going to change my entire swing. And be a Navy SEAL. And be a Navy SEAL. And then he was great with his new swing.

21:09PFT Commenter:Yeah. Oh, shit. Charlie Woods has only seen one major victory from his dad. So Bennett's... Bennett's way... Bennett's him. Bennett's got two, right? Or does he have three? I think he has two. I think he's like one years old. So he doubled it up today. That's right, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because 2009 was, I think, when it all started to... I think that was the Thanksgiving. Yeah. Yeah, all kind of went bad. It would be funny if history just repeated itself and Scotty was just Tiger that way too. He was just really, really good at hiding it. Because when the Tiger stuff happened, I don't think anybody, it was a massive story, but I don't think anyone was like, oh my gosh, this doesn't seem like Tiger Woods that I know.

21:50Oh, I can see Tiger being a psycho and going down that road. Oh, I disagree. I remember being shocked. Yeah?

21:57PFT Commenter:Yeah. Because he was like the perfect advertiser on every single commercial, had the family, had the supermodel wife. That was shocking. That was shocking. It was definitely. I think because we learned everything after, we kind of misremembered. But I remember being like, what the fuck? But I think Scotty would be more. I remember thinking that it was like, oh, he just got in a fender bender. Like, no big deal. That's how they put it out. Yeah. Yeah. And then when you slowly figure it out, you're like, oh, shit. It's way worse than that. Also, we did a bad job. I'll take my hand up here. Phil Mickelson should have won take of the year because his tweet from March, here's a hot take.

22:43PFT Commenter:Does Scottie win in 2025 before the Ryder Cup? I don't think so. Also, that's Phil saying that Phil just is saying Ryder Cup because he can't say Europe's going to win. Yeah. So he really wanted to say, does Scottie win at all in 2025? No. Yeah. But he had to have a little pride. He was like, hopefully Keegan will give me a call and I'll play well enough that I'll somehow make a team. I'm so excited for the Ryder Cup. It's going to be awesome. So excited. You're not Hank? I'm excited. I'm excited. We might be in trouble. I'm excited. It's going to be a war. We might be in trouble. But it's going to be back against the wall.

23:14So if it was Captain Hank, if you were the consigliere to Keegan Bradley, what do you tell him? I trust Keegan. That's what I'm excited for. No, but what do you tell him? Trust yourself. Trust yourself. Use the crowd. Get hot. But in terms of the selections? Oh, I don't know about that. Max Homo? Yeah. Yep. Yes, absolutely. For sure. Why did you think about that? I didn't. You thought about that for a half second. I was thinking as Keegan, but I trust Keegan. Keegan's going to do the right thing. Got her up? This website says we have a 54.8 % chance of winning.

23:47PFT Commenter:Got her up? Well, we do have to always remember that it's being played. When you play it in the home country almost always wins, and there's going to be 20 ,000 stew finders in Frank Flemings going nuts. What were those brothers at the Yankees game? The Copo Bianco? Yeah. We've got to get the Copo Bianco brothers out there. With golf gloves? With golf gloves. Trying to grab balls? Yeah. Here's a crazy stat. If you bet Scotty Scheffler to win every single week starting this year$100, how much would you be up? 10 grand. No, 185. Wow. Because he lost a bunch and he's always a short favorite. Yeah.

24:28Well, nothing will make you feel like a bigger genius than betting on Scotty Scheffler to win a major champion. Yeah, I know. And then hitting it. Like, I feel like the biggest, I've figured out Las Vegas. Yeah. Las Vegas is mine. I saw Scotty Scheffler plus 450 on Wednesday. And I was like, yeah, that seems pretty good. Yeah, why not? Why not? Take a taste. Turns out I really know gambling. Yeah, you do. It's a great bet.

24:50PFT Commenter:It's that simple. Okay, where do we want to go next? Because I have two stories that I don't fully understand that maybe we can figure out as a team. I think one of them might be my who's back of the week. Is that WNBA? No. Oh, the NFL guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, that one, don't fully understand, so we'll do that. WNBA, don't fully understand, and they had their all-star game. Yep. They wore shirts that said, pay us what you owe us. and then it's just a war online of they're losing 40 million dollars a year but also they're not and i never understand any of the math behind because this is like classic ownership where they'll you know if you talk to mlb owner they'll be like yeah i'm losing money every single fucking year i don't know i think they probably should get paid more but i also don't know anything about how any of the financials work the economics behind it correct i do know that they're expanding as a league yeah i know that the cba was ratified like a year ago okay but that didn't take into account the caitlin clark factor so the league's going to be growing tv rights are going to be growing uh but merchandise merchandise it feels like they're making a lot more money you know what they should do there should be like a week one week a year and this can go across all sports where all the jersey sales 100 of that money goes to the player whose jersey it is yeah Be like, okay, if you move the needle, we're going to give you a week, see what your fans do.

26:15I like that. And then the fans can wear their, I sponsored this player.

26:19PFT Commenter:I also just go off gut. Like, does this number make sense? Do you guys have off the top of your head what each team's salary cap is in the WNBA? Do you have a guess? Like per year? Per year. Six figures. No, it's not six figures. I'm going to go with 5 million. 1.5 million. That's close to six figures. It is. That's$500 ,000 off. It's six figures away from being six figures. Yeah. I feel like that should be like$3 million. I don't know. That sounds like a good deal. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just going off gut. I happen to agree with the shirt because I went gut check,$1.5 million feels too low.

27:02It does feel like we've been talking about them more in the past 18 months. Caitlin Clark effect. Caitlin Clark effect to the point where they, if you were to ask me what the average salary was, I would not obviously guess that it was as low as it is. Yeah. So maybe they'll figure that out. I know that teams are, you're paying what, 250 mil for an expansion franchise now? Yep. So they're not paying$250 million for something that's going to lose the money. You'd think. Generally, that's what rich people do is they buy stuff that's expensive because they're going to make even more money off of it.

27:36Yeah. It was also. NFL teams or sports teams, NFL, NBA, Major League Baseball, they'll never tell you exactly what the cost of their operations are. Yeah. You're never going to get that. They will lie. They'll cry poor, and they'll use that to try to suppress salaries. So I don't know. Yeah, sure. Give them a raise. $3 million sounds good.

27:54PFT Commenter:It just has gone boiled down to a quote tweet war. Yeah. Who can quote tweet the picture of them saying, pay us what you owe us with more facts that I might believe in the moment, and then I'll be like, well, let me look into this a little bit more. feels like the league's on the up and up, and they could probably adjust it. I did see Kelsey Plum take a little shot at Caitlin Clark. Yeah, that was mean girl shit. It seemed that Team Caitlin Clark. What do you mean? Oh, Mean Girl with the pods. Yeah, yeah. She said Team Caitlin Clark, they did not seem to pay much attention during the meeting when they were talking about the shirts that they were wearing.

28:30PFT Commenter:No, she said they didn't attend. Oh, she said not to be a tattletale butt. But they weren't very present, which I think meant. they were distracted during the meeting that they were at. No, so the story, I read into it more. I think they invited Team Clark 10 minutes before, and they didn't come because they got invited 10 minutes before. But they also wore the shirts, so who cares? Yeah, they end up wearing the shirt. Why are you telling on the matter? Play the clip. It was a very tattletale. She didn't want to be a tattletale. It was Mean Girl. And then who's that? Ionescu? Ionescu? Sabrina.

28:59PFT Commenter:She came correct. She was like, why would you fucking say that? You idiot. Kelsey Plum, dude. That was a very powerful moment. we didn't, at least as players, we didn't know that that was going to happen. So I think it was kind of like a genuine surprise. But the T-shirt, just United front, was determined this morning that we had a meeting for. And, you know, not to tattletale, but zero members of Team Clark were very present for that. They didn't go. But, no, we were just – we had a very – That really needed to be mentioned. I'm trying to make a situation light No Good job taking the air out of it That's also such a knowing Now that it was they invited him 10 minutes before That's a setup You set him up I kind of respect them being Just outwardly being like I fucking hate Caitlin Clark There's no pettiness about it No but she's not She should say that That's the only way that you would say something But then she tried to be like I'm trying to make a light situation Just own it And it's very funny because you're saying, pay us what you owe us, and then also take a shot at Caitlin Clark.

30:12PFT Commenter:We wouldn't even be having this discussion if it wasn't for Caitlin Clark. So it was team Clark. So it was like her, there were two different all-star teams. Correct. And Caitlin Clark had one team. She's saying zero members of team Caitlin Clark. Were there. Not like Caitlin Clark and her managerial team or like her marketing representatives. Correct. And they were also invited 10 minutes before. Yeah. So they didn't come to a meeting that they They got the pity invite This is a lot of drama about a t-shirt It's just so funny because it's like a unified moment And then you gotta be the mean girl I definitely took that as Caitlin Clark's like management team No I did not Team Clark is the other That makes a lot more sense and a lot less petty Like the Shack OG's It would be like none of Because they were obviously on the other Yeah yeah yeah Shout out to Shack OG's okay what else happened we can talk a little baseball baseball we're getting close to the trade deadline Hank the Cubs beat the Red Sox 2 out of 3 yep I went to the 2 games they lost oh you're bad luck Brewers caught the Cubs in the central I have a bad Max you can tell me if this is stupid you're a baseball guy I have a bad feeling I have a bad premonition.

31:32PFT Commenter:The Cubs are very good. They are the best record in the NL tied with the Brewers. Also, the Dodgers kind of low-key stink maybe. Nah. They are right now. Yeah, but they don't stink. They weren't going to lose a game this year. They're losing games right now. Would you feel good about a team knowing you need pitching at the trade deadline and then the GM saying we have a good enough team to be an electric team that's playing deep in October. To do that, we have to stay healthy. We have to do the little things. We know we have the talent. We don't have to get lucky. We just have to play really, really well.

32:06PFT Commenter:Would that make you a little concerned? Yeah, because RGM is saying the exact same thing, and we just signed a 40-year-old reliever who was basically retired. Setting the table for being like, we're going to do one thing, but we're not going to do the thing that you think we're going to do. Isn't this guy like a three-time Philly? Yes. Like he's been on and off the team? This is the third time that he'll be on the Phillies. Who is it? David Robertson He's 40 He's a free agent He did like a showcase in Rhode Island And the Phillies signed him But I think he was pretty good last year He's 40 and he hasn't pitched all year I'm 40 It's so funny that you said that I'm 40 and I was really fucking good When I did the pitching challenge that you're going to do Eventually Did I say that on here or did I say that privately?

32:54No No one knows what you're talking about No one knows what you're talking about. You're never doing this. I've reached out to a couple teams. Dates aren't working out. Dates aren't working out. I'm still working on it.

33:07PFT Commenter:Okay. But, yeah, no, that's funny you have that quote because I'm pretty sure our GM has the exact same quote about our lineup. It's like, this is a lineup that can win in October. Yeah, and you know what they're doing. They're just setting you up. So they're just like, hey, I know everyone's talking about this. We're not going to do as much as you think. But isn't it kind of true, though? Yeah. It could be true that if your team's good, why try to mess anything up? Because we have four starters right now? Yeah, that's a pretty good reason. Yeah. You need five. Yeah. I mean, we'll get one back, but still, you probably need another one.

33:41PFT Commenter:Yeah. I don't know. Bullpen games. Bullpen games. Bullpen games. Just throw all the bullpen. Everything you got. Did you have fun? Yeah. Wrigley Bleacher's Friday afternoon. The best. Did you take your top off? did not take the top why i don't know i should have you should have did you have a beer bat did have a beer bat nice beer snake did not win the 50 50. max did you ever check the 50 50 of the one that you tried to parade my face i knew you wouldn't didn't look at it had no idea i probably tried to max went to a cubs game was like three weeks ago and tweeted was like i'm probably gonna win this and then i texted him and i was like hey check the ticket i'm pretty sure that's like a three-week 50-50.

34:23PFT Commenter:That's bullshit. He was so mad. It is bullshit. I've been banging the drum about this. It's bullshit what they've done. I would love to know the amount of winners that don't accept the prize. That has to be why they do it. I think they have your information, so they might reach out to you. How do they have my information? Because your credit card. Is that true? Is that how that works? I think so. Then you get an email, too. Is it just loaded into your account? I have no idea. I literally have no idea. Oh. I remember I took – I was, like, waiting for the seventh inning. I was like, when are they going to announce this?

35:02When are they going to announce this? And then I got the text. So you were like, you're not getting that until Sunday. And I was like, I don't give a fuck by Sunday.

35:08PFT Commenter:You should show up just randomly and be like, I'm here for my 50-50. I lost my ticket. You think I could check? Yeah. You can see past winnings. All right. I'll get back to you. All right. Well, actually, no, Max, we have one other thing, the Eagles Super Bowl rings. Should we talk about them? Sick. I wanted, I really, really wanted to come in here and make a case for the wings flapping out to be fucking, like, lame and stupid and, like, what happened to the good old days with the Super Bowl ring. But every time they pop out, I'm like, damn, that's cool. It's pretty sick. I can't do anything about it.

35:46It looks a little bit like a mustache. It's just. But it's cool. Mustaches are also cool. Listen, I would say -

35:52PFT Commenter:Isn't that growth, though, Max? I literally wanted to come in here and try to fight you over this, and I was like, but then I kept on watching it, and I was like, I can't say anything, because I think that's really cool that they did that. I think making fun of a team for having a lame Super Bowl ring is, that's even too big of a loser move for me to do. Yeah, but I wanted to. It's so stupid. I wanted to. Your Super Bowl ring sucks. I wanted to. I have a take. I have a negative take about it. Okay. I feel like this should be an in-season thing. In a game? Isn't there like a pregame thing? That's the banner night.

36:25I feel like you should get them that day. But then they have the guys that are on different teams. NBA does that. Yeah, NBA does do that. I think that's what I was thinking.

36:34PFT Commenter:Actually, MLB, I believe, does it as well. I think they do too. I think there's something about like, it's just another game to get excited. Banner night. I know, banner night. Cowboys. Are we under? How many days away are we? Can we get a countdown? The ball's back. Can we get a – can we get a – we should get a – We got seven weeks. Zach, we need a clock in this studio, and we'll name it the Ryan Russillo clock, and we're going to count down till kickoff of week one. Okay, we can do that. And then as soon as week one kicks off, I want a new countdown for week one of 2026. Yes, sir. I'm so excited.

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38:16PFT Commenter:I've heard or injured. Justin Herbert, because he's wearing red contact lenses. Pretty crazy looking. His eyes are red? Yeah. Not a drug guy. Didn't they have those in, like, 08? I want to say Nike did the Max line or whatever it was. It's been a big thing. I've seen it pop off and pop off. Like, it's for some sort of, like, sports initiative back in the 2000s, but then it became a thing that goth kids were wearing in, like, the 20-teens. I have a memory of just Kyle Vandenbosch. That's the red eyes that pop in my head right now. So these were instead of the visor, right? He said he didn't like to wear the visor anymore because he has to wipe it off.

38:55Right. So now he's just wearing prescription red contact.

38:58PFT Commenter:That's supposed to make the light look better. I don't know. Perner injured, though. It sounds bad. It sounds soft. If you're wearing red contact lenses to try to be more intimidating. Yeah. Like he could just wear normal contact. It's going to be great for memes. Yeah. Shane, hurt or injured, Justin Herbert, your quarterback, wearing red contact lenses. Hurt? I feel like that's less bad than injured. Are you worried at all about this? Not at all. Okay. Jared Verst was like the first guy to do it, and he had a pretty good year last year. Don't you think maybe it would be nice if Najee Harris had taken eye protection a little bit more seriously?

39:38I do, yeah.

39:39PFT Commenter:What is the latest with Najee Harris? He's on the pup list, I think. Or non-football injury. And the Chargers didn't see his injury before he reported to camp, which was like two weeks after the injury happened. So he just called them and said, like, my is not that bad. Yeah, and then the doctors would send information. What do you think? Wait, when did training camp start? Last Monday. But they had a report of football. Football's back. So back. So back. So back. What do you think Harbaugh's reaction to the red contact lenses was? He might have. He probably wants them. He probably puts them on just to be like, I need to be in the same wavelength.

40:20PFT Commenter:Can I get a pair? Yeah. I would love to hear him get explained what it does. I would love to hear him get explained what happened to Najee Harris. Yeah. He's like, what do you mean? The firework? You put your eye on a firework? Firework problem? You addicted to firework? Why did he put it in his eye? What do you mean he doesn't have an eye? Why were you at a firework party? And what about that guy in Fresno? What was his deal? There's another Najee Harris? Which one of you did we sign? He's got to be very disappointed in Najee Harris. He does. Shane, any more comments about Justin Herbert's eyes?

40:56Is this the year that the contact lenses unlock something for him and he takes a bigger step? I hope so. Okay. I do.

41:05PFT Commenter:What's the successful year? Playoff win? We need a playoff win. You need a playoff win. We need one bad. But last year we had, like, the easiest schedule in the league, and this year it's pretty difficult. Shit. Shit. But year two. Jalen Rieger is, like, a wide receiver three right now. He's good. He was drafted super high. He was super high. Some were saying. Before Justin Jefferson. Didn't you guys get a tight end, though? Tyler Conklin. Yeah. He'll be pretty good. Okay. You still got Puna Ford? No. I wish. Puna would be awesome right now. All right. Thank you, Shane. That was our Chargers Minute, as well as our McDonald's snack wrap.

41:46PFT Commenter:Heard or injured. Brought back an old segment. Okay, should we do Who's Back of the Week? Yeah. And then get to our contentious Mount Rushmore. At Boar's Head, we've been going back to school for over 115 years. And this year, every school lunch is reason to celebrate. with the flavors your kids love and the exceptional quality you expect. Helping you make school lunch fresh, easy, and delicious. Ring the bell. The deli is open. Boar's Head, committed to craft since 1905. Hank, who's back of the week? Who's back of the week is Max Holloway. Oh yeah, our UFC minute. Yeah, much anticipated UFC fight.

42:30Max Holloway, Dustin Poirier. Three-peat, third-time fighting. Max Holloway, who I was pulling for, I predicted in our preview last week.

42:39PFT Commenter:You went out. You went. Dustin Poirier was. That was his last fight. You were going against him? I like Max Holloway. He became good friends with Max Holloway at Beer Olympics. Yeah, that's right. No, me and Max Holloway. When Dustin Poirier was in the bathroom. Became good friends in Verdansk. Wait, what? You played Call of Duty with him? Yeah. When? Back in the day. A couple times. How? Hooligans, dude. Oh, okay. The hooligans. Sold over four shirts. I was second highest jersey seller. How many? Four. I think one was seven. Who was one? I forget. Milf Hunter. But no, it was a good fight. I thought he was going to knock him out in the first round, and then he just kind of dominated from there.

43:23PFT Commenter:But Dustin Poirier, is he the – you're a UFC expert. You can answer this. is he the most beloved one of the most beloved UFC fighters of all time because I feel like it was out like tons of praise and I don't know if did he ever win a title people are going to be pissed about this quite possibly I know that he was one of those guys that fought literally he was never scared of a fight he fought everyone like yeah he was a lightweight champion he did win the BMF belt too, right? I believe so. But he fought everyone. Let's see. Doesn't break. People are going to be very upset. He beat in the lightweight division.

44:08PFT Commenter:Former interim UFC lightweight champion. There we go. Also challenged three times for the UFC lightweight championship and twice for the BMF title. Okay. What's his legacy, Hank? Fought everyone. Fought everyone. Badass. never back down, never scared of a fight. I also, with fighters in retirement, I never believe it. Why? No, he's... I mean... Because then they get rested, they get healthy, and they're like, I could do one more fight. I could make a nice payday doing another fight. Yeah, they take eight months off, and they're like, I feel amazing because I haven't gotten hit in the face in a while.

44:47PFT Commenter:He fought for the UFC Lightweight Championship a lot and lost a few of them, But he did fight everyone. I think he fought Conor like three times. And Max Holloway three times. I think even Khabib lost to Khabib. He would never turn down a fight. What's the best undercard, Hank? I'm more of a main card guy. Okay. Same. Yeah. You stay just the main card. Yeah. Like true UFC fans would understand. Shout out to Dustin Poirier. I watched the whole card as well. Oh, Max. What the fuck? UFC guy. What the fuck? You need a UFC guy. I got one segment. I watched the fight. I was just saying. I was just saying.

45:30I watched it. What did you think? All my bets lost. That's basically the only thing. That's a terrible recap. That's a terrible recap. That was great. I liked it. I texted JackMacCFB, give me your plays, and three out of four lost, and that's basically what I got.

45:44PFT Commenter:Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. There's Kelsey Plum over here. Why are you taking a shot at JackMac? I was just telling you. I mean, that was unnecessary. That's what you say. Why don't you text me? He's Kelsey Plum. Why don't you text me? I should have texted you. I should have texted you. Kelsey Plum. Did your play set? It's K-E-L-C-E. Yeah. Kelsey Plum. I also feel like I was watching. I don't watch a lot of UFC fight. I feel like they should attack more. You're the shoot the puck guy of the UFC. I was just watching all the fights, watching my bets, and my guys were losing, so I needed them to get a KO for the fight.

46:24And I just kept being like, all right, now attack, attack. And then they just keep playing defense and never attack. I'm like, it's the only way you can win this fight is if you attack, go attack. You should be a corner guy. Punch more. You got to punch him. You got to punch him. Yes, I don't get it. That's my UFC take.

46:41PFT Commenter:Zach, are you a sneaky UFC guy? I'm not a sneaky UFC guy. I watch the fights, I just don't have the knowledge. Wait, but did you watch the whole card? I did not. I just see the clips on Twitter. Oh, okay. All right, so not a UFC guy. No. Not at all. Because there is a big, I feel like, Venn diagram of gamers. Yeah. UFC. Memes, are you a UFC guy? Memes is an everything guy. Sometimes. It's like once every three weeks. What did you think about this fight? It was okay. Pretty good recap. Yeah, it was just okay. Did your best hit? No. I'm taking a break. Oh, okay. Also, there should be more KOs Yeah, definitely Too much defense, there's too much defense I want more They should be standing up and just throwing Yeah, yeah It'd be a much better sport Like boxing?

47:31PFT Commenter:Bigger gloves

47:35There should be corners, actual corners Not this octagon circle shit For a second I was like, yeah, Hicks all the time

47:45PFT Commenter:You might have found something I was like, that could be it. I actually like when a guy gets choked out. Something about it. No, I want more things on the game. It's primal. There wasn't a lot of groundwork going on this weekend. My favorite is when somebody refuses to tap out and then gets choked out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They get their arm broken. Yeah, yeah. They're like, I'm just not going to tap. Jesus didn't tap. Neither will I. I love UFC more than anyone, but it's very violent. Put it on a quote, Carl. That's our UFC expert. You can't be our UFC guy and say that. It's very funny. Hank wants less punching.

48:22Me and Hank could be on opposite sides of the spectrum of this.

48:26PFT Commenter:I think you might have to be our UFC guy, Max. No, no, no, no, no. I like Hank doing it because, I mean, last week his preview was – or his recap was just the commercial. That was also probably the one time I will ever – like I was just with the boys and then – That is a great thing. And when I say with the boys I'm saying by myself But like three or four times a year I'll just like Saturday night Just be like yeah I'm gonna fucking buy this It'd be awesome If you're drunk with your boys watching UFC It's the time of the year Where this is Throwing knives at each other Yeah my mom's not gonna like that Did she see it?

49:06She will now Was that real?

49:10PFT Commenter:One video Mama Delente, your son was throwing a large butcher's knife to his friends. I've actually played that game before. It's so fun. It's the most fun game. It's so fun. I don't care. Yeah, everyone. People were mad. The only thing I was worried about is if your button-pushing finger got hurt, you'd be in a problem. The best would be if it just landed on his foot. Yeah. And hurt his foot again. No, can't do dingers only. Yeah. No, but that is a fun game. Great game. Really, really fun game. Because the worst that's really going to happen is you actually not. There's definitely some really bad things.

49:44What's the worst thing that could happen playing catch the knife? What should you do with a gun? No, that's what I'm saying. It could be like guns are way worse. Yeah, true. For that game, maybe not. No, wrong. Bad take, bad take. If it was unloaded, we should play a couple rounds. Put one bullet in it. One bullet? Yeah, a single bullet. We should play a couple rounds. That's the other thing. I don't think you can post it anywhere. I think. What? That game? The knife toss? Yeah, for people who don't know. I think Twitter. He literally was just throwing a knife.

50:14PFT Commenter:It's Chef Donnie. Chef Donnie. He's an adrenaline. Chef Donnie is the one who originated the game, of course. I think he pretty much landed. I actually have to ask him where. Is it a cooking thing? Because I did play it in college, so I don't know if it's a. And he went to Wisconsin, too. But I think it's probably a cooking thing. I think that's like a chef thing. Tom Lai said he had also played it in college. I had never played it before. Chef Donnie recommended that I play it. But for people who don't know Chef Donnie, I'm pretty sure he jumped out of an airplane, landed in his apartment, then started playing the night.

50:43Yeah, we've talked about him recently because he's the one who bought a parachute off of Facebook Marketplace. Yeah. Is that the one he used? Yes. I saw the video of him parachuting the other day. That's the parachute that he uses. Still alive. Still alive. Biggest junk science guy maybe in this world. He has like astronaut underwear.

51:04PFT Commenter:I love it. Oh, Stephen Chay just sent us a Dingers Only update. We got Brandon in first with 34. Jersey Jerry with 31. I'm at 28 with Hank tied for third. Zach, 24. People were saying your team wasn't good. PFT, 19. Max with 18. Stephen Chay with 13. Who cares? I mean. Doesn't mean anything. No, that's true. That's right. Well, Stephen Chay will do the punishment quickly. Expeditiously. PFT. My Who's Back of the Week is labor strife in professional sports. So not only the WNBA, but I don't really understand everything that happened in the last two weeks with the NFL and the NFLPA. But Lloyd Howell was the head of the NFLPA.

51:51Then he resigned last week. And then all these stories are coming out about finding how he was expensing trips to strip clubs on the NFLPA's dime. Rocks. That's fine. And what better place to conduct business than a strip club? That's the guys can't have any fun anymore? Exactly. And there was also a report that the NFLPA executive committee took a vote when they were electing Lloyd Howell. And I think he only got one vote from the executive committee. But then they go to all the player reps and get their real votes that count. And they didn't tell them that, hey, nobody on the executive committee likes this guy.

52:27and apparently the well the criticism of him i think is that he was too close to the ownership group because he did some part-time work for one of the uh i forget what firm it was he's a consulting firm that was then given rights to purchase nfl teams so then he could potentially be not only the head of the nflpa but also an owner yes of an nfl team and he didn't tell anybody

52:52PFT Commenter:He also, who's the guy before him? DeMorris Smith. DeMorris Smith. Or the hats. Yeah, the hat. So, first of all, shout out our friends Pablo Torre and Mike Florio, because I'm pretty sure them as a tag team forced this. Yep. So I'm giving them all credit. But essentially, it was one of Mike Florio's favorite topics. It was the Lamar Jackson collusion. and they found that the teams did basically after uh deshaun watson all the teams were like hey let's not do that anymore let's not do the five-year guaranteed contracts yeah and the nflpa what's this guy named lloyd howell lloyd howell yeah terrible name by the way you shouldn't have been elected just on that uh he so the nflpa found out that they colluded and like had the basically collusion and Lloyd Howell buried it and didn't rub it in their face and use it as a bargaining chip.

53:48PFT Commenter:And I think that's where he started to get into this trouble because anyone who's doing their job in his job would be like, hey, you guys colluded against my players. I'm ahead of the players. Yeah. Instead, he was basically being like, I'll scratch your back. You scratch mine. I'm going to pretend this didn't happen. When we go to the negotiating table, you guys got to do me a solid. Yeah. He made that settlement confidential. Correct. So nobody was allowed to read until Pablo Torre and Florio got their hands on it. Then everything blew up from there. Pablo Torre and Mike Florio as a duo for the NFL.

54:21PFT Commenter:I mean, Roger Goodell's got to be a little worried. They're like the truffle dogs, but for legal documents. I was going to say Woodward and Bernstein, but that's a better comparison. Yeah, they're just two dogs going into the woods, and they come back with thousands of pages of legal documents that no one in the world wants to read other than Pablo Torre and Mike Florio, and then they distill it into a podcast that dumb people like us can understand. I bet you Torrey doesn't even... I think Florio might be the only person when it comes to legal documents. There's definitely... Torrey's probably like, hey, Mike, let's do this together.

54:54Here's 1 ,000 pages of legal documents. Let me know.

54:58PFT Commenter:There's definitely been at least one time where Florio has texted Pablo Torrey and been like, holy shit, I found a bombshell. Pablo Torrey's like, okay, cool, cool, cool. Yeah. emphasizes this Florio we gotta do a podcast about their relationship if you get a phone call from Florio or Pablo Torre just hang up throw your phone in the lake it's already too late if they called you so scary maybe someone can make an AI of them as truffle dogs just finding tons of legal documents it's an interesting story I guess the parts that I can understand correct and then and then uh jc treader he was like the next up to be the head of the nflpa yeah he just resigned today yeah so he said he made like a statement about it like affecting his family or something my guess is that jc treader might have been caught up in some of the same same stuff that hal was doing that's another pelt on the wall for tory and florio yeah so i don't know who wants to be head of the nflpa i did call florio on the way in tonight because i was Like, hey, can you explain this to me?

56:03PFT Commenter:Like, I'm like four. Yeah. And he did start talking like he was talking to a four-year-old. It hurt my feelings a little bit, but it also started to make sense. He was like, all right, so a guy's got a job.

56:17And he was getting paid dollars for his job that they then spend to buy candy.

56:22PFT Commenter:And then we kept on finding, when I was talking to Mike on the phone, we kept on getting to the same point. And then he went to the strip club and charged it to the NFLPA. I'm like, but why is that bad? Yeah. That seems good. My takeaway from that is fuck you to the strip club for not making the billing ambiguous. Yeah. The payments on a strip club, if you go to the ATM, if you use a credit, it should always say things like payment corp. Correct. It should be the most ambivalent thing ever. Correct. Correct. But yeah. It's also kind of crazy. It just shows You can have all the money in the world And still just want to Be like I'm an expensive strip club I'm pretty sure this guy Lloyd Howell gets paid Like three and a half million dollars a year You can fucking go to the strip club You can afford it dude I did read one report that made it seem like he Got taken to the strip club on his own Spent like eight hours at the strip club And then left at like Six a.m.

57:20on his own So might not have been with the boys Might have just been a solo venture That's a bridge too far

57:27PFT Commenter:Do you think he came? Yeah Eight hours But that's a long time He's a freak if he came halfway through and stayed And he's also a freak if it took him eight hours to come So where did Lloyd these are the questions we have I think he's just doing boots on the ground Like putting himself into Sean Watson's shoes As he's doing the investigation That'd be great if Pablo Torre and Florio got Lloyd Howell on Pablo Finds Out and stuck it to him about all this, you didn't stick up for the players. And then they tagged us in and were like, we got some pervert questions for you, sir. We just got a couple of questions.

58:06So you were on the main floor. Then you went to the champagne room. Then did you go to the VIP room or did you say in the champagne room?

58:12PFT Commenter:Yeah. Then was there another room that they took you in, the super secret VIP? Was there any, at any point, did any of the strippers say, I never do this stuff? Yeah. Is that why you came? Yeah. How much glitter was on your penis when you got home? How long was the shower when you got home? Oh, Lloyd Howell, you're welcome to come on this show. We will not ask you at all about hiding the collusion of Lamar Jackson. We will only keep it to the strip club, and we want to find out how much of a pervert you are. Not judging. Judgment-free pervert talk. Because I think a little bit of pervert is good.

58:44PFT Commenter:Oh, absolutely. But eight hours is a long time at a strip club. Yeah, that's what got Florio's hackles up. That's a long time. Italian like that can smell a pervert. That's not... I mean, was it in Atlanta? There was one in Atlanta, Magic City, and there was one in Florida. So I'm not familiar... Tootsie's Cabaret in Florida. Okay, so I'm not familiar with Magic City. If it is an 11-type club... It is. Magic City is poppin'. Oh, then eight hours is okay. And they've got great food. That's the Lou Williams. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Okay. Good who's back. My who's back is Coldplay. Oh, why?

59:15They're doing a tour. That's awesome. Yeah. I bet their tour is really good. Really good. I bet it's getting a lot of pub on social media.

59:24PFT Commenter:A lot of pub. A lot of people talking about Coldplay. Yeah, that's so cool. Good for them. Kind of predatory tour. La Vida. Vida La Vida? Vida La Vida. Uh-huh. I was going to say. Viva La Vida. Viva La Vida? Yeah. I kind of like Coldplay. Coldplay fucking rocks. I know. People were kind of shitting up Coldplay. This guy, the Kiss Cam, quite something. Mm-hmm. Quite something. And now I think it's been reported to a point where we can actually talk about it and not get in trouble. I think he resigned. He released a statement. Yeah, he released a statement. Well, there were some fake statements, too, being released.

59:57Was the one when he was blaming Coldplay?

59:59PFT Commenter:I think that was fake. That was fake. Yeah. When he came out as a Coldplay fan? No, he said like. Oh, they got a private moment? Yeah, like it was unfair of Coldplay to put that up. I think that was fake. Even though when you sign, I'm pretty sure when you buy a ticket to any sporting event, like the terms and conditions are yeah press release also just uh i mean i guess this is a learning experience that if you're on the kiss cam in a situation that you don't want to go viral maybe don't uh drop to the ground and try to crawl out of the room yeah maybe try to play it off but his thought was that people at the show would recognize him because he's a ceo and then i thought like was i supposed to know who this guy was what's the name of the company astronomer yeah that sounds like a fake company yeah so um also every i wanted the cubs to do it this weekend every sporting stadium should be just do a cold play cam for the next few weeks yeah who's they were running it up yeah they were running it up uh yeah i i mean i i also stay woke i feel like cold play might have set this whole thing up because we're talking about cold play on online cold play is getting talked about more than they've ever been talked about so much wouldn't you agree well i mean it was a stadium tour cold play cold play cold play rocks i also argue it's good for astronomer the company well it was also their head of hr have you ever heard of astronomer though now for this now now everyone knows how we do now ever i still don't know what they do yeah what do they do also the phillies did it yeah the fanatic the fanatic yeah dude the miss fanatic's got a dumper look at that thing i'm more of a wagon mrs met guy myself uh also i should have i i shouldn't have done coldplay first i should have done my second who's back first because if we're talking about misappropriation of funds uh boys we might have our own we might actually have to have pablo torri and mike florio uh investigate something for us because i was alerted to something i think you guys were tagged in this as well at least you were pft um our good friend and fantasy manager jerry o 'connell went on andy cohen's show this past week with his lovely wife rebecca romaine uh all due respect and there was a bombshell dropped after 18 years of marriage a long time couple made a surprise admission about how they manage their finances we keep our money completely separate romaine 52 i didn't have to put in her age confessed during an interview with Andy Cohen on SiriusXM.

1:02:24PFT Commenter:She's only 52? Yeah. Wow. So Jerry, he could be paying for the whole league.

1:02:36Oh, driveway.

1:02:37PFT Commenter:He's making easy. He's throwing us a song and dance about how he only could pay for a third of the league. Yeah. And he's saying a lot of things about he has to explain things to his. Yeah. He's misappropriation of funds. No, it's more. I'm disappointed. Like, yeah, he's taking us for a ride. Yeah. How many times do you think he's going to the strip club with the two thirds of the payments were paid? This is bad, Jerry. This means we might need someone as oversight. This is bad. Oh, yeah. Florio being the oversight would be good. Florio would not let Jerry do anything. Drop a contract. Have him locked in.

1:03:14Non-compete clauses.

1:03:16PFT Commenter:I guess we'll find out how much he wants to manage our team when he decides how much he wants to pay for our team. Price just went up. Price just went up. Talked your way into that. I hope you got the headline you wanted, Jerry. I do. I actually kind of hope Jerry walked out of that interview and looked at his wife and was like, why'd you fucking say that? The boys are part of my take. You're going to know that I could pay for more than just a third of the fantasy team. It was a great excuse that he had. I bought it. I could also see a world where Jerry told her to say that on the air. Yeah, yeah.

1:03:44Just to, you know, drum him up a little bit, get his name buzzed on page six.

1:03:47PFT Commenter:I also could see a world where Rebecca Romijn, all due respect, maybe has access to Jerry's finances, but he doesn't have access to hers. Yes. I think that could very well be the truth of the matter. I want to know what the event was that made her say, Jerry, we need to have separate finances. Probably fantasy football. Yeah, probably fantasy football. Yeah, actually, I'm going to come all the way around. Jerry, you're vindicated because you just love the game so much. That's why he had to separate the finances. Okay, Zach, who's back of the week? My who's back of the week this week is the Pittsburgh Pirates because on Saturday the Pittsburgh Pirates had a – they celebrated Mac Miller in the stadium.

1:04:25So they had some nice chalk drawings out front. They did a message wall where fans could write some positive messages. They also did a collaborative bobblehead with the family, in design with the family, and sold some merchandise to help go towards the Mac Miller Fund, which does help lower privileged children in the area. I thought it was an all-time move. Pittsburgh guy, the Pirates celebrated him. It looked like a great day.

1:04:49PFT Commenter:Yeah. Very cool. There was like a line down the, like across the bridge, I think. Yeah, it was like the whole city showed up. Yeah. It's fantastic. Very cool. And the Pirates' ownership still needs to be taken to task for being bad owners. But this is a cool move. Wow, it was packed. Good who's back. Should we do our Mount Rushmore? Max is ready to fight already. Max is pretty mad about this. All right. Let's do a couple ads, and we'll get to Mount Rushmore. Work hard and hydrate hard with Body Armor Flash IV. Whether you're working in extreme heat or powering through a long shift, Body Armor Flash IV delivers faster, longer-lasting hydration.

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1:06:16PFT Commenter:Okay, Mount Rushmore time. We're doing best bad movies. And there's been some pre-fights. Max is just pre-mad. He's ready to go. I was sitting up in my office and I heard you're ready to go. That's not true. That is true. I didn't even talk to him. Are you not pre-mad? Well, that's just my normal volume. It felt... There was nobody else in the... PFT and Hank were even in the kitchen. It was me and me just talking about... Are you talking with your hands? I'm always talking with my hands. Are you Italian? Yeah. Well, there were some picks that I told memes, even memes. I was like, no, that's a good movie.

1:06:56We can't.

1:06:56PFT Commenter:Are we doing any guidelines? Are we just going, are we going to go say a movie and then we're going to debate? Best bad movie. I think that what is a bad movie is going to be up for debate, but it can probably stay on there if you think it's a bad movie. I think the tone's going to be set with the first. Yeah, but bad movies. We have the first pick. I love a lot of bad movies. Are we going off critic score on Rotten Tomato? That's what I'm saying. That's one data point that we can use. I will be pulling up the Rotten Tomato of every single movie. I love that. I'm having integrity with this because it's movies that I know are bad, but I enjoy watching.

1:07:31We're going integrity? I'm down to go integrity. Yeah, I'm down to go integrity, too. Because we had some picks that, for some reason, are... And they have to be bad on both. They have to be bad on the tomato meter. Oh, I don't know about that. Yes. Well, that's the best bad movie. It's a bad movie judged by critics. Listen, I think the ultimate judge is going to be the fans that vote on the Mount Rushmore. But there are awesome movies, especially comedy movies, that are loved by everyone. But they're still bad. People won't vote for it. That's not a bad movie. Like a bad critic. They have to be bad on both.

1:08:05But Max, then people will see that and be like, that's not a bad movie. I'm not going to vote for that list. I don't know. Sounds like you don't trust the AWLs. That's a decent point. I mean, there's some. Yeah. But people are going to see their favorite movies And pick their favorite movies No because then they're putting their favorite movie in a bad category

1:08:23PFT Commenter:But I don't see it as a bad movie Where I'm like saying Because it's the best bad movie It's a movie I like It's a bad movie that you're going to watch Even though you know it's bad If I was with someone who is Like a professor They'd be like this is a terrible movie But with me and the boys This is a fucking awesome movie I'm going to give an example that we talked about that we just couldn't put on the list because it's not true. Pineapple Express is technically a bad movie. No. That is not. Pineapple Express is a great movie. I think it's good. It's a good comedy. That's what I'm saying. Like, that is technically.

1:08:57But that's where it's on our system. There are some bad comedies that are so bad that they're kind of good. Correct. That's a different category from Pineapple Express.

1:09:06PFT Commenter:Okay. Which might not. Correct. It's not going to win an Oscar for best picture. I agree. But it's a good comedy. I agree. But that is, like, what I'm talking about. The reviews for Pineapple Express are hard. That's not where I thought you were going. But you have to admit, if you put Pineapple Express on this Mount Rushmore, people would see them be like, that's a terrible pick for this draft. I didn't think about it like that. Okay. All right, good. We're all pre-mad. No, actually, I think we might. I think we're going to get a good one. And there will be some ones that we'll have to debate.

1:09:33All right. So who's up first? You guys are. Also, Memes considers himself a connoisseur of bad movies. I'm passing the ball. I'm not even. Wow We're going all memes Kelsey Plum He said he only watches bad movies

1:09:47PFT Commenter:You are Kelsey Plum What? Passing the blame Memes sent a terrifying image of Kelsey Plum Face smashed with Max Hank, you got the ball Oh shit Is Hank's list? Is Hank's list? It's our list We generated the list together But we did, yeah, we talked about I mean, it is a tone setter Probably not a draft you really want, the 1-1 But our first pick is going to be Con Air I feel like that's a good movie Great, awesome movie But you think about the plot of the movie, it's bad Give me back that bonnet That's a 68 % I'm Cameron A 58 % Tomato meter That's a good movie But it's bad That's way higher Than anything I had I had everything way lower There's so many better Nick Cage movies too Yeah.

1:10:42PFT Commenter:I'm from Outlaw. Have some. Well, yeah, there's better Nick Cage movies, but. No, there's like bad. Like, that's a good Nick Cage movie. These. This movie rocks. This is a good movie. There shouldn't be a popcorn on like any of these. This is a good movie. What are we talking about? All of ours are in like the 20s. Yes. We looked up our critic score and nothing touches 50. No. Most of them are in the 30s. Yeah. 20s and 30s is where we're living as well. But it's okay. If you guys want to go that route, you can go that route. Yeah, yeah. All right. We'll go with our first pick. We were just talking about him, Kangaroo Jack.

1:11:16PFT Commenter:I told you memes. We had him on the list. I'm happy that memes and I were battling over this, and he was like, it'll be there in the fourth. It'll be there in the fourth. Yeah. No. I'm happy that you guys were before us, and we never – I would have been devastated if we – We thought about going to all Jerry O 'Connell movies. Kangaroo Jack is a bad movie, but it's fucking good. I like it. Nine percent. It's such a hilarious movie-like premise. When we have Jerry on at the end of the summer to do our fantasy, we got a DVD commentary. Yeah, not only DVD commentary, but be like, when you got pitched this, what went through your head right away?

1:11:54Well, the movie isn't even about a talking kangaroo. That's like one minute out of the movie that they decide to make the entire trailer. And then people went to go see it and they're like, what the fuck? This kangaroo's not talking the whole movie? He looks hot. He does look hot in that. We should do a movie review of Kangaroo Jack. Yeah, which year?

1:12:09PFT Commenter:Oh, at Barstow Camp. Yes. Oh if we got one of those inflatable TV Oh yes we should do it That would be great Okay You guys have two picks Alright first pick I think Hank's gonna take this Yep You don't mess with the Zohan It's on the list Phenomenal movie One of my favorite movies It's so bad It is so bad It is the dumbest, most ridiculous movie That's maybe ever been made But it's great And then we'll go Scary Movie 2 Jerry O 'Connell That's a good movie What do we do here, Zach? Do you like 4? I like 4 Scary Movie 2 is a 13 % compared to 60 % of Con Air, by the way Who, like who? 58 What do you mean?

1:13:07PFT Commenter:Con Air's a good movie it is it's a good movie it's a comedy this is Zach's pick because Zach loved this and I completely 100 % back him up because I think it's a great pick but he's like I love this movie 60 % is also D minus Conair's like actually if you told me Conair won an Oscar I'd be like yeah that makes sense it's a fucking awesome movie great cast alright rip it Zach you love this movie I love this movie I love that you love this movie we would like to take Paul Blart Mall Cop. Yes. I like that. I like that. I like that pick. Zach, when we were in our pre-show meeting, he was just like, what about Paul Blart?

1:13:48PFT Commenter:And I was like, fuck yes, dude. That's a bad movie, but it's so good. I say peanut Blart and jelly all the time. It's so good.

1:13:58PFT Commenter:Alright, what do you got next? Shawshank? We are going to go with The Rock's San Andreas. Good pick, Hank. Terrible, terrible movie. Blockbuster. A lot going on. Nothing good. And then we'll go Adam Sandler. There's two Adam Sandler movies, I think memes would agree, that fall in this category. They're bad, but they're good. He's going to take the other one that we should have taken in the first. That's my boy. Good pick, Hank. I thought we were going to take him in the first. Good pick, Hank. We should... Where do we go from here, Zach? There's a couple pivots. There's a couple pivots. Anything sticking out to you right now?

1:14:46PFT Commenter:I mean, so we went, where did we go? Kind of heavy comedy. The problem is I have a list of bad movies that probably no one has seen because it's like all action. And like I'm heavy in the Jean-Claude Van Damme world. Heavy. Should we do one of those? If you don't think it's too niche, we can rip it. I mean, I... All right, I'll do it. Bloodsport. Bloodsport's a bad movie. The acting is so fucking funny, but it's such a good movie. I really enjoyed it. Yeah, we did a watch of it. COVID. It is... And also, the best part about Bloodsport is the guy completely fabricated the entire story yeah he just made it all up but like some of the action shots are so funny the slow-mo jean-claude let's just say not the best actor uh really good at action really good at kicking but he's not exactly the best actor but yeah blood sport all right i feel good about that zach i mean it's one of my favorite movies and i know that like if you had if you put it in front of a critic they're just like what am i watching right now can i say true to ourselves okay You guys are up Number three This is probably one of my favorite movies of all time What do you Yeah You gotta pick your movie I'm going Not Another Teen Movie Ooh I love that movie It's so funny That movie sucks Yeah Memes Quotes this movie all the time It's so funny Like thinking I know all of the quotes of Not Another Teen Movie Like he It's his It's like legitimately his favorite movie He's a spoof movie guy which basically are like cinematic memes in a way.

1:16:27It's kind of. Like all that.

1:16:30PFT Commenter:Just watch it for memes. Okay. And then the last one for bad, good movie. Do you want to go with this one or that one? This one. Fourth and final, we'll go with Norbit. Oh, my God. Never saw Norbit. Oh, it's so bad. It's so bad. It's so, so bad. I had a friend in college that used to watch it once a month, and I would literally yell at him every single time it was on. But I would watch. I would watch Norbit. Zach, what are we thinking? Talk to me, buddy. Three or five? I was leaning towards those. Which one did you like more? Norbit's nine percent. Five could play, but also five could be a terrible pick.

1:17:22It goes one way or the other.

1:17:24PFT Commenter:Oh, man. What do you think? I don't know. I don't know what to do. We're stuck. You got to go with your gut. I want you to go with your gut, Zach. Okay, so bad that it's good? No, it's Best Bad Movies. Best Bad Movie. We're going to go with the B movie. There we go. Okay. Okay. Is it too good of a movie? No, it's a bad movie. No, it's a bad movie. It's a bad movie. It's about a B who falls in love with a woman. It also was like Jerry Seinfeld's big thing that was like Jerry Seinfeld's back. I honestly just assume any animated movie that I've ever heard of has like a 98%. No. Yeah, B-movie. I've never seen B-movie.

1:18:03PFT Commenter:No, it's bad. You like that? I've seen it. It's bad. 49 % and 53 % audience score is bad. Especially for every animated movie. And Jerry Seinfeld. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's bad. I like it. That's bad. But it's so bad. It's good. Yeah, right. I'd watch it again. I'm actually going to watch it with my kids. I'll do that. All right. We got the last pick. We're going to go romantic comedy. I still don't understand how this only has 10 % raw tomatoes. Couples retreat. Okay. That's a good one. That's a good one. This will be interesting. I don't know how people are going to vote. Con Air is definitely the best of those movies.

1:18:38PFT Commenter:It is. In terms of. I don't know. Zohan. Norbit's pretty good. No, no. I'm saying the best. I know. I know. I know. Like real. Well, that's why having the first pick was kind of hard. We didn't know exactly where to go. I was thinking what me and PFT were talking about were movies that are always on TV that aren't great, but you're still like, oh, I'll watch this whole movie. So there was a couple that I had that I thought would be too contentious, but when you looked up at the critics' score, they were really bad. Tommy Boy is really bad. We talked about that. But I was like, there's no way. I know it is, but it's like...

1:19:18Yeah. It's bad. But all Adam Sandler movies are bad, but some of them are good. Some of them are just bad. Yeah. The Zohan and That's My Boy are the perfect bad, good Adam Sandler movies. I told memes that we couldn't do Waterboy because it's too good. Because it's too good.

1:19:32PFT Commenter:We had... Yeah, like Waterboy was on our list. Tommy Boy also has 90 % popcorn meter. The answer you could have done is Black Sheep. Black Sheep. Look up Black Sheep. That was just Tommy Boy 2, and it wasn't as good. another one because we were like we got into a rabbit hole we're like all right let's just list some movies that might not be critically acclaimed mighty ducks got like a 27 i said mighty ducks but like that's just too good of a movie we had uh we also had kangaroo jack we had commando on our list okay schwarzenegger yep uh probably that's the pinnacle of of like bad arnold movies But it's awesome.

1:20:09PFT Commenter:Yeah, I'll just rip my Jean-Claude Van Damme, Steven Seagal action movies. Bloodsport, Hard Target, Cobra with Sly Stallone, Hard to Kill, Out for Justice, Best of the Best 1 and 2. Best of the Best 2 is incredible. But they're all Lionheart, Time Cop. Double Team, it's Van Damme and Dennis Rodman. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. Face Off. Face Off, we talked about that. But that's also kind of a good movie. Anaconda? Under Siege, I looked up, and it actually has a really good rating. Does it? On Rotten Tomatoes. Under Siege 2, probably. I would guess that's probably 20. Yeah. Under Siege. What was Under Siege?

1:20:52PFT Commenter:Yeah, 83 % in tomato meter. That's unreal. I know. I was shocked. With Joe Dirt. Yep. I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry. Joe Dirt is a mess. Yeah, Joe Dirt's a really bad movie. Chuck and Larry is a solid movie. Yeah. No, Chuck and Larry. Dirty Work? You guys ever seen Dirty Work? That movie's so fucking funny. So funny. What about Eurotrip? Eurotrip. What about Super Troopers? Super Troopers was a great movie, though. Super Troopers was a great movie. Beer Fest and Eurotrip were... I didn't want to go two good movies back-to-back. We did that with Semi-Pro. We said Semi-Pro. We had it on our list, and out of integrity, we were like, that's too good of a movie.

1:21:27PFT Commenter:No, all right. Blades of Glory probably would have been a good movie. No, Blades of Glory is a great movie. You didn't fumble, Zach. Stop. Zach just texted me on the side saying I fumbled. No, you're good. I shouldn't have gone with B-movie. We don't know how anyway. That was sidebar, but yeah, I did. We were thinking about going Sharknado. Yeah, Blades of Glory has great reviews. Sharknado, but Sharknado was almost made to be so bad that it was almost too meta. Yeah. So you did fine. B-movie was a movie that Jerry Seinfeld did legitimate press for and went on Larry King and was a big deal. Sharknado was meant to just be bad on...

1:22:00PFT Commenter:Because we could do a whole other thing like made-for-TV movies. The Drew Peterson You know why they call me Big Daddy Rob Lowe One of my favorite movies But it was made for TV Two for the money Two for the money I don't know if I've seen Two for the money The Stu Finder story Oh yeah yeah With Matthew McConaughey I have The Accountant The Accountant Oh The Accountant's a good movie Yeah that is a good movie There's a part of me that thinks If a movie gets a sequel Yeah that it doesn't deserve to be on the list. No B movie too. Piranha? I don't believe so. No. Another Jerry O 'Connell movie. Bench Warmers?

1:22:41Yep. Good movie. Good movie. Dude, Figaro? Yep. I said Undercover Brother. I looked it up. It has phenomenal reviews.

1:22:49PFT Commenter:Night at the Roxbury? Bad. No, that's a classic. It was kind of fun. Yeah, I mean, it was. Comedies are tough, yeah. I was saying to PFT as we were doing this, If we really want to get people fired up, we should do worst good movies. Oh, movies that are known as being great that we fucking can't stand. That's a great one. Yeah, we should do that. Yeah. I'll get very angry. The Nick Cage's I would have gone were Gone in 60 Seconds and Ghost Rider. Yeah, Gone in 60 Seconds is like a great movie. We thought about Fast and Furious, but we didn't know which one of the entire anthology would have been the best bad movie of those.

1:23:34Maybe Tokyo Drift. But National Treasure is a good movie. Yeah, I know. That again, though, if there's so many of something, then they can't be that bad. The Fast 6, that's the one you're looking for.

1:23:46PFT Commenter:It's also hard because there's good movies. I threw on, for honorable mentions, Rocky IV, which is an unbelievable movie. But like, obviously when you watch that movie, part of you is saying like Sly Stallone is not the best actor. I thought you were talking about Rocky V. Rocky V is bad. Rocky V is bad. Correct. Rocky IV is a good bad. I honestly think the right answer for this would be Rocky Balboa. The movie Rocky Balboa. It's a bad movie. No, Rocky V probably is the answer. Again, I love Rocky IV. It's one of my favorite movies. But it's like Sly Stallone is not a great actor. Rocky IV is an awesome.

1:24:22PFT Commenter:I know, but when you watch it sober, Sly Sloan has some funny parts where you're like, what is he doing? I think what this draft has showed us is that we love bad movies. Yeah. Yeah, I love all these movies. Cars 2. Cars 2 sucked. Would Snakes on a plane count? Paul Newman died. Paul Newman died, and they had to change. Snakes on a plane would have been a great thing. They changed everything. Snakes on a plane. Anaconda. Yeah, we said Anaconda. Oh, yeah. Snakes on a plane would have been a great thing. Snakes on a plane. Do you know what's a shocker? Because I was like, we made our list, and then I was like, let me just look up what the biggest difference is on.

1:25:01PFT Commenter:Boondock Saints got killed. Yeah. I didn't know that. I just liked it. A lot of those comedies are like Eurotrip. Yeah. Boondock Saints is 26 % on the critics' score. 91. Yeah. I mean, it's a good movie. Yeah, Eurotrip. Eurotrip is a good one. That's kind of what I'm thinking of. the popcorn next to the popcorn, then it's a good movie. I also don't understand Rotten Tomatoes. Is it Road Trip? Yeah. That's a good one too. Like a good bad movie. Without a paddle. They went to Austin. Austin, Massachusetts. Freddy Got Fingered? Freddy Got Fingered. Tom Green's the best. Freddy Got Fingered sucks.

1:25:44That movie is fucking horrible. I like because I like that guy in road trip I like tried to watch that one night and I was like this is legitimately the worst movie I've ever seen

1:25:57PFT Commenter:Max Kornacki this is impossible to judge I have no idea it really is I have no like who would you vote for PFT kind of fucked me up with the you fucked him up dude before this by speaking no before this when you were like will people be like why is that in the bad movie category that's a good movie that's where I feel like Con Air might screw you I have no idea Mean memes literally we picked I pivoted to Zohan because I love That's My Boy That's My Boy's Bad That's My Boy's Bad I was so excited for that movie and I still like to re-watch it I re-watched that movie all the time disappointed when I first...

1:26:45I had that movie when it was coming out. I was like, this is going to be the greatest movie of all time. It is. I just thought of a big miss that we had for being football guys. Oh, Draft Day. Draft Day. Draft Day. Great pick. Shit. 80 for Brady. 80 for Brady. 80 for Brady would have been a good one for you, Hank.

1:27:05PFT Commenter:Or what was the Kurt Warner one? Oh, that movie was good. I like that movie. American Underdog Story. I watched that on a plane. I was like, you know what? I'm inspired. Let's see what draft day was on Rotten Tomatoes. Any guesses? I'm looking up American Underdog first. American Underdog? Look at those ratings. Whoa. 75? 75 and 98. Damn. A draft day got 60%. Oh, yeah. It's too good. Yeah, it's too good. All right. Good, good. We stay true. We stay true. We stay true. Yeah. I don't really know what I was saying there. Okay. Good Mount Rushmore, boys. Also, anyone who has ideas for Mount Rushmore's tweet at memes.

1:27:44PFT Commenter:Yeah, tweet at memes. Pardon my memes. Best one gets Madden code. Yeah. Yeah. From memes. Best one gets a free DVD of Kangaroo Jack. Signed by Jerry. Signed by Jerry. I hope he has like a whole closet full. He probably bought them all. That would be awesome. Okay, let's get to our interviews. We got Baker Mayfield and Alex Crusoe together. Very, very fun. And then we have MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred. Iconic summer moments deserve an iconic drink. Reach for Mountain Dew, an American original. From its beginnings in the foothills of Tennessee to your biggest summer yet. The refreshing citrus kick of Mountain Dew is the perfect companion to your American summer adventures.

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1:29:23PFT Commenter:That's PMT20 at checkout for$20 off your first order. And now here's Alex Caruso and Baker Mayfield. Okay, we now welcome on two very special guests. it's a combo a little cross sport combo we did this last year chill week this year it is alex caruso baker mayfield two friends of ours thank you for joining us boys i have the first question is easy one baker would you say alex has one ring two rings or one and a half rings or zero or zero no you have one you have you officially one is the one is the lowest baseline one's the lowest yeah he's got two hell yeah bubble two is two hell yeah count the bubble i count the bubble Yeah.

1:30:08I don't know. I think it's one. I get to the LeBron question. Let's get it out of the way. Yeah.

1:30:11PFT Commenter:All right. All right. So Alex, you win the championship. You made it. These are the two mandatory questions. The mandatory questions. You win the championship. You make the comment after that you now have officially have a real ring. What was going through your head in that moment? Was it us? You were part of the conglomerate of people I was talking to. Don't give them that. Yeah. It was a little bit y 'all. Yeah. And were you surprised that people took that seriously? Yeah, dude. Dude, they got so pissed. I was like, all right, guys. Let me have a little fun. It's bullshit. You were addressing the internet.

1:30:41Yeah. Yeah. I tweeted, too. I was like, I already had three Michelobes. A couple of champagne shots. We were riding. We were getting to the top of the roller coaster. I was saying whatever I thought was good at the moment. Yeah. Congratulations. Yeah, congratulations. For real. A title. Yeah. Was it harder than you thought it would be in the finals? Yeah. I would say yes. But also, I knew what it was going to be. like indiana we knew how fast they're gonna play and like they were sneaky aggressive defensively through the playoffs and nobody was really talking about it but like they were they were really physical like they played exactly how we played yeah fast on offense physical on defense try and

1:31:18PFT Commenter:get a bunch of people in double digits yeah uh i'm happy you guys were together because we're interviewing guys together because baker i was thinking about this and a question i was going to ask you you thrive off of people doubting you but i feel like no one doubts you anymore like you you got the new contract you had a pro bowl year you were awesome this year you're tough as shit just running over people making awesome plays no one is like baker mayfield isn't a really good quarterback everyone knows you're a really good quarterback so are you some are you oh okay so always a couple yeah how do we always how do you stay motivated do you go and search and be like i gotta find who's hating so i can get a little chip on my shoulder no i don't i don't look for anymore okay i had enough 49ers fans yesterday talking shit to me so we are out west huh yeah we're in niner country at this point so i'm good but do you feel maybe it's maybe it's that they just keep switching offensive coordinators for you they keep getting head coaching jobs man yeah i don't know if i don't know if i smell or they just keep leaving me that's a compliment to you that says you're you're helping the promotion yeah was there a small part of you though um and we interviewed liam cohen at the uh at the combine a great dude was there a small part of you though the Duvall you're like all right now I crushed him yeah get him crushed him crushed him what are you doing stop trying to be the cool guy just do your job be a head coach be a figure culture I don't know if they want that culture

1:32:46PFT Commenter:yeah that was a good that probably felt good in the moment where you're like yeah you left me but now you have to deal with like the head coach spotlight yeah he's I mean he's a great coordinator I'm interested to see how it goes. We still talk all the time, but he's a great coach, so we'll see how it goes as a head coach. Dealing with me as a head coach is just, regardless of sport, seems like the job isn't worth it. I have to talk to the media every single day. No, thank you. Every word that you say, there's a magnifying glass on it. People find something wrong no matter what you put out there.

1:33:18It takes a guy that probably does not give a fuck to be a head coach and be successful at it without reading into it. The last season, though, very impressive season. unfortunate final game for you guys. Sorry about Jaden Daniels and the commanders. It was awesome for me. There we go. There's some doubt. Yeah. There's some doubt for you. Fuel my fire. Yeah. When the commanders got the ball back at the end of the game, we were like, fuck, they're not giving us this back. Yeah. I mean, at that point, you could kind of feel the momentum out of it. We just offensively didn't play good enough. And it was one of those days.

1:33:48We were averaging, I think, damn near 30 points a game, and we didn't even come close to that. Just too many mistakes. So, but we got a lot of the boys back, all 11 starters and then some on offense. And so, uh, made some additions. I'm excited though. Yeah. Do you look at last season? Is that, I know it sucks the way that it ended, but do you look at it like that was a successful year? Um, I mean, no, I mean, the goal is always Superbowl or nothing. Um, it was, I mean, you check off the boxes on your way to try and get to the Superbowl division playoffs. But then after that, if you don't, if you don't do anything, the playoffs really doesn't matter.

1:34:23PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right. so combo question because you guys both kind of play the game the same way uh scrappy undersized white guys white guys are there ever working like lunch fail first guy in color gym guys that you want to date your daughter yeah are there ever times though like baker when you run someone when you're like i'm going to just run someone over or alex when you i think there was the moment in the NBA finals when you were literally trying to swim on the floor to get a loose ball. Do you ever have a moment where you're like, maybe that was a little too try hard. Like maybe I should just dial it back a little.

1:35:01I think y 'all asked me this before the finals. Remember we had the conversation. You're like, do you know you're try hard? I was like, yeah, I know I do for sure. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Look at me. I'm not built to be in the NFL. Yeah. We can't be supposed to try hard. Yeah. We can't be cool, dude. If you're cool, it's not going to work. Cool for me is a

1:35:16PFT Commenter:losing yeah yeah so keep trying extra hard oh yeah does anyone ever say anything after like being like hey that was a little much they chill out yeah yeah maybe on chill week but yeah you know what's funny about that they did that when i was a young player in the league like whenever i was like on two way and like just getting into the league because like i have like eight minutes to prove myself and it's like some 10-year vet who's like you know it's the third quarter they're up 20 and they're like all right guy what are we doing i'm like hey i don't have any money right now I'm not in the league like this is this is what I'm gonna do yeah when TJ McConnell was out there and you you're watching him play ultimate try hard TJ you're like dude did that make you think about yourself like wow is this what I look like yeah yeah no I me and TJ I think I told you the origin we were on the same summer league team in Philly so we had like a nice kind of similar path coming in and we text each other every year when like you do something like you go into a game not supposed to play well and then you just kill all off of effort and you'd text him like dude that was that was sick can you imagine how fundamentally sound that summer league team was yeah honestly not yet great great handshake line after the game yeah eye contact but that but tj mcconnell like in the finals they're imagine a summer league team slapping the floor but the way he plays it does fuck guys up because he gives like i know it's you can't give 110 technically but he does like he would just like if he's just jumping every you know inbound pass 90 feet from the basket, it messes you up.

1:36:41Yeah, you got to make up for the, like we said, the white guy, lack of athleticism.

1:36:46PFT Commenter:But you guys do that, and Baker, you do that too, where it's like most quarterbacks will slide, and it's like, no, I'm going to fucking run this guy. I'm going to run through his face. Do you have to run through someone's face to kind of wake up in a game? Do you have to get hit first? Sometimes, yeah. Yeah, it's got to feel good. It feels real nice. And I mean, real nice, Clark, real nice. Yeah. The next day. Yeah, till the next day. He'll deal with that on a Monday, though. I think I told you this last time we interviewed you, but I think it was your first game, maybe second, in Tampa Bay, maybe against the Vikings.

1:37:14You ran through some guy's face, and then your entire sideline jumped up. And from that moment, I was like, I think these guys are in love with Baker Mayfield. And I was bricked up. Yeah. Do you ever get just like a little rush of blood? Like you hit somebody like, whoa. A little rush of blood below the belt line. Never hurt anybody. Yeah, and it moves a little uptick. yeah so uh in the finals this year game one you go out could you tell that the logo wasn't on the court no i didn't even remember that that was a thing i'm not gonna lie bothered us because i being on the court you don't like the tv when you look at it it's different than being out there um they do need to bring that back though they do it's so good the big the big one in the middle

1:37:53PFT Commenter:of the court yeah and congratulations by the way i think game seven like a good amount of people watch so you guys oh yeah because i know you guys care a lot about the ratings yeah that's how we get paid so yeah it's important baker you got to be like when you see ratings wars do you even do you just you got to laugh at it because they they always do the like top 100 watch sporting events and it's like 99 are football and then one is like the olympics and it's just like football's king it is around the world i mean they just keep expanding i know took christmas i mean it's Oh, they took Christmas.

1:38:25PFT Commenter:No, no. Christmas is Roger Goodell's now. Yeah. I don't know if you knew that. Christmas is – We're the Grinch. Yeah. We'll just wait until all-star break. Yeah. Christmas is theirs now. How sweet was the championship parade? Oh, bro. It was so sick. It was so sick. I drank way too much naturally. I think I was asleep by 3. PM? Yeah. That's awesome. Oh, that's fantastic. My fiance, she was taking – she's in the back. She was taking care of me. It was short-lived. I slept from like 3 to 11, woke up for like 30 minutes, and slept from like 11 to 8. Yeah, actually, one of my questions was, how are you alive right now?

1:39:03PFT Commenter:Because you went, won an NBA title, bachelor party this past weekend, and now Todd. Got in the sauna Monday night. Yeah. And then flew here Tuesday evening. How are you alive? A lot of water. A lot of water. Shout out Body Armor. Yeah, shout out Body Armor. A lot of water. A lot of water. That parade had to be nuts, though. Yeah, the parade's sick, dude. The parade was so sick. Yeah. What time do you wake up on the morning of the parade day? When do you crack the first drink? I think I took my first shot of tequila at 8. We had to be at the facility at 8.15 to get on buses. I took one of my buddies who stayed back.

1:39:41He's like, oh, that's what we're on. I said, that's what we're on. Yeah. That's got to be cool seeing fans out there just as drunk as you are. I don't even know if they were, to be honest. I remember everything that happened, like the details of what the people were feeling it was all play it was all player one main character that was all i had yeah yeah baker i've seen a lot of baker mayfield jerseys out here in tahoe on the course waiting to see you play a lot of like throwback ones too a lot of oklahoma baker mayfield jerseys when you see somebody that's wearing like an old jersey like a college mayfield jersey are you like hell yeah that's a real fan like i appreciate the effort sometimes yes you can tell based on the interaction sometimes it's somebody trying to be cool grab a retro jersey yeah it's the try hearts you know yeah because i can relate to them yeah at the same time you see yourself yeah i think as a fan when you're when you're figuring out which jersey to put on you're like well i might seem to i'm gonna wear like an obscure one from way back in the day so we stand out yeah i'm a real fan yeah yeah try to catch the eye i do love it though it's fun what if i told

1:40:40PFT Commenter:you guys you have one thing that is like very much in common what would you think i was about to say what's that white no i actually think you have very much in common we both played texas high school football okay that's that's true i was gonna say mike evans yeah i was i was gonna say that earlier when he's talking about the team yeah mike so let's just talk about how awesome mike evans is it's unbelievable he's i mean do you did you feel a little bad about getting the thousand yards with the saints and that whole situation i hate the saints absolutely not no But if, I mean, we had already, we were making the playoffs.

1:41:15Situation where you take a knee, go to the playoffs, but we decided to throw it on first and 10.

1:41:21PFT Commenter:Yeah. Just to get Mike the thousand yards. And like that reaction in the stadium. Yeah. Real try hard. Real try hard. But he is the best. We always like, we'll have moments in the NFL season where we're like, hey, we're just going to randomly on a Monday just be like, hey, everyone needs to just respect Mike Evans more. Because he's so good and he's been so good for so long. And he's not flashy. So like he goes under the radar a lot. but I think now the tide's starting to turn for him. People are realizing his Hall of Fame resume. First time I met Mike Evans, I played against him in AAU at Texas A &M in the rec center, and he was dunking on everybody.

1:41:55That was the origin of Mike Evans, and then we both ended up at A &M. I was like, oh, okay, that makes sense now. He still wears the old Nike Elite socks, his old basketball swag, long gym shorts, down. I mean, it's Mike. Galveston ball, that's what that is. Also hard. Players respect him. The opposing teams respect him so much. The Saints were like, yeah, you can go ahead and have this record on this catch. That was very cool of them. Yeah, I'm sure that was their mindset. Yeah. Nice people.

1:42:19PFT Commenter:Since we have you guys here, with the NBA-NFL debate always happens, do you guys think you could play each other's sport? I suck at basketball, so no. Okay. There's a select few from each that I think could cross over. Give me a couple names. Like from mine that could go? Yeah, and then you give me a couple NFL guys. LeBron could have. Anthony Edwards could. I'm trying to think of like. Draymond? Lou Dort could. Lou Dort. Yeah, fat ass. Draymond could probably play O-line. You just have to put on weight. Yeah. Great screen setter. Yeah. You know, smart. Athletes. I think one of the Thompson kids.

1:42:57Oh, they're freaks. Yeah. That kind of athlete, you find a spot on the team. Yeah. You find a spot on the team.

1:43:01PFT Commenter:Yeah. What about you, Baker? Or have you played with guys who you've, like, seen hoop and you're like, holy shit? I mean, Mike's one of them. Yeah. There's a couple receivers. Saquon, there's a couple receivers that are supposed to be really good. I can imagine, like, I don't know if A.J. Brown has a shot or not. Yeah. But that's a big man. Yeah. I know there's some, like, O-linemen that were really athletic and, like, they struggled to keep the weight on. Mm-hmm. Like, between the D-line and O, Miles Garrett. Jokic. Yeah. Yeah. Miles Garrett, I mean, I've seen him. Oh, I've played basketball with him.

1:43:32Yeah.

1:43:33PFT Commenter:Yeah. But this is actually – You can get minutes. You can get minutes. This is the perfect answer because this has always been the answer where they have the debate and it's like there's probably like five guys from each side. I don't know if they would have enough like finesse to be able to play basketball. Yeah, that's the thing. For football players to come to basketball, you have to play both ways. And like for the guys that are like – I could play in the NBA. There's the guys that are like dunking shooting threes. It's like, well, you got a guard and you got to be able to remember like what the hell is going on and doing this, it's like it gets a little tricky.

1:44:05And then you talk about the basketball guys going to football. It's like you're going to get hit in your mouth a lot. Yeah. Like you think that's like, oh, yeah, I could handle that until it happens. And you're like, mm. Yeah. I don't know if I like that so much. Yeah, that's true. There's an element of toughness that I think some guys could pick. Like DK Metcalf, I think he could probably also make the switch to NBA. That's what I'm saying. like there's certain athletes yeah that could just find minutes in the nba because like there's guys in the league that can't shoot or like can't do stuff but they can rebound the hell out of the ball and they're like dunk and put it like you can play 12 minutes in nba if you're a good enough athlete yeah right who's a uh who's a better golfer between you two that's a good question how good are your golf right alex yeah i'm like an 11 handicap i'm a little better than 11 yeah this guy's probably what how much six five yeah yeah i'm probably no no no that's probably it one summer I got down to like a 2.7 but that was just a crazy month we're not there right now I haven't played golf this summer

1:45:02PFT Commenter:I'm still pissed that the Bulls traded you and also got no picks because you don't get picks for anything but we have a golf simulator in our office and Alex did it a couple times we were literally working and he would just be hitting shots it's right there and we could have taken all the credit when you one day win this tournament we could have started a little sponsorship or something or like a YouTube vlog, like building up to it. Give us a cut. Maybe post-career. Yeah. Oh, you want a cut? Yeah, yeah. Well, just give us a little. 10 %? Yeah. It doesn't have to be 10. Baker, maybe you give us a cut for your new contract when you sign another one.

1:45:38You think so? Just a little cut. You think they helped you get there? Well, allegedly they have. So I mean, I got to believe them. I don't know if they've ever lied to me. Yeah, maybe whoever runs the main account at Barstow Sports should get a cut because of the doubting. Yeah. So I don't know if you guys ever see headlines, But when the main account puts it out, a lot of times me and Big Cat get shit for that. Yeah. Because it's like they think – Fuck you guys. Yeah.

1:46:00PFT Commenter:We'll take it. That's our job to be a shield. Yeah, get a text and be like, what is this? I'm like, dude, I don't know. They're just trying to get numbers. Yeah. What do you want me to do? Engagement, dude. Yeah. I didn't say it. I retweeted it. Whatever. I liked it. I laughed at it. I dared the guy to tweet it. You put the line in your header. It's like all retweets are not – Yeah, endorsements. Endorsements. Mine are. Yeah. Yeah. Mine are 100%. Baker, it's just whenever, if he loses a game, they just play you dancing from the Oklahoma video. That makes sense. Yeah. That sounds right. Yeah. By the way, is there anything as you went to a school that went from Big 12 to SEC.

1:46:36PFT Commenter:Baker, you just went Big 12 to SEC. Do you want to give him any tips? Because it's not going great for Oklahoma football right now. It's not great for the fellas. Yeah. I don't know how to, because we went in, we had Johnny right away. So that was kind of a nice crutch to fall on. We haven't been very – not to that level since. So better recruit, better get some good guys into the team. The difference from what I can see is O-line, D-line. The D-line, SEC, just a bunch of naps, like man-childs. Yeah. And then O-line, Oklahoma hadn't had a – They're all fast. As good of an O-line as we used to have.

1:47:13PFT Commenter:Yeah. You do have a dude this year, though. John Mateer. He's awesome. He's one of the boys. I tried to get him to go to Wisconsin. like I had phone conversations and it was just and I ran out he's so I was going up against you so I out recruited you did you bring in JJ Watt I brought in JJ Watt I didn't do that okay didn't help didn't he walk on well JJ yeah yeah oh okay so you've been playing NCAA football in real life yeah it's tough to be it was tough to be like oh uh what's happened to Oklahoma in like the past 15 years they have all these Heismans and also his OC went from Washington State so I'm rooting for him no matter what i told that after i was like dude i'm not gonna be like a loser here and be like oh fuck you didn't pick my school i want him to he's awesome yeah sick he's got some shit in his neck too yeah he's kind of like a little i like a little mini mini baker i like him yeah yeah i also appreciate the fact that you said that you hate the saints earlier i i like it when athletes admit that they hate other teams like rivalry do you have like a list of teams that you absolutely hate texas yeah you guys both hate texas i should have said that that was a great one Yeah.

1:48:17There we go. Yeah. Texas, horns down. Losers. A bunch of losers. That felt real. Yeah, you really hate that. That's from childhood. That's not adult hate. Texas fans and Cowboys fans are very similar. Yeah. A lot of them are the same fans. They're the same people. Yeah. They really are. Hey, what about Coach Dougs? We're going to get another. Yeah, we'll be back. Yeah, I can't wait. We'll be back.

1:48:41PFT Commenter:Yeah, playing some college ball for sure. We're going to start an online dynasty league? I got time. I should. Oh, maybe we should link up. We should do that. You'd probably kick my ass, but I'm bad at the, I mean, I'm already now. I suck at video. You're playing Heisman, right? Yeah, I play Heisman. Yeah, it's hard. It's not easy. But you've also got a staff. And I also spam plays. Yeah, you do. You do. Baker, do you ever spam plays in real life? I don't know what you mean. Like, you just find one play that works, and you just keep playing over and over and over, and then the AI doesn't pick up on it.

1:49:10PFT Commenter:And then everyone in the chat says, you're a loser. Cheap play. Cheap play. Fuck you, big cat. You piece of shit does that ever happen to you in like a two minute drill yeah yeah i didn't realize that's yeah i didn't realize i was going up against ai but yeah yeah we spam in the nba oh yeah if it works i'll yell at the bench run it again out loud yeah which would like what's your what's the play that you've spammed and you're like it just they can't stop it um like we run one play where it's just like a flat ball screen where you put the worst defender in it and shea has the ball and it's like if we're like if our off if we haven't got a good shot in a while it's like all right let's give the mvp the ball yeah get this like slip screen out of the way and you put the bad defender and if they if they fuck it up i'm just like hey let's run it again yeah and eventually they'll change it now we can get back to our real offense yeah that's kind of sucked to be hunted in the nba like some of those guys they just get picked on i was that guy when we first started and then i like transitioned into the guy that got taken out of the action right and so now it's like you better you better have some nuts if you're going to be called into it like you better just stand up and put your chest.

1:50:13You got to, what do we say, run through someone's face? Yeah. Equivalent of that in the NBA, if they call you into the ball screen, you better foul the shit out of them. You better do something good because if not, you're going to get put right back into it. Your defense stays up because you're like, I'm not going back to being the guy that got hung. For sure. We're not going back there. Nobody likes being embarrassed in front of 18 ,000 people. He can't be the weakest link. No. And everybody in the arena knows, well, majority of them know, oh, that guy's not good. That's why they're putting him into the – like put him into the let LeBron, let Shea, let whoever it is go with that guy.

1:50:46Yeah. Yeah. Nobody likes that feeling. Baker, how awesome is Bucky Irving? He's the man. His name is also very fun to say. It is. Like to y 'all – Great name. Great football name. Come on, Bucky. Chicago guy too. Yeah, he's fucking the beast. He is. I mean, he's full of energy all the time. He's all ball though. Doesn't do anything else. He's just – I mean, he's 22. Yeah. He's wild. When did you know he was a dog? this is a guy that we can lean on. I mean, talking to him, you could tell his mindset he was. But then in practice, when we're not going full to the ground until a game, you couldn't tell how many people are going to really make a miss.

1:51:22Some people would get in front of him, but in a game, they're not touching him. So, I mean, it was hard to tell until our first game. I wonder what that feels like as a running back to where it's just like me and you distance away. It's like, oh, you're not going to touch me. Yeah. Good luck. Yeah, that's probably an amazing feeling. That's probably a sick feeling. I mean, it's got to be similar in the NBA where you get one-on-one. I don't know that feeling. Yeah, you don't know that feeling. I don't know that feeling. But some guys. Some guys really like, oh, I'm about to cross this. Yeah. Have you ever called like ISO?

1:51:45Like everybody back up, I got this guy? Yeah. One very, very limited. Yeah. Very few times. Did it work out? Once or twice. Usually it happens like when the best players don't play. And so it's like, I know I'm going to get a bunch of shots this game. So all of a sudden your confidence and your imagination gets a little. And then you tell them to run it again. Yeah, yeah. And then I ISO like, hey. It's me. That's the best part. if I'm the guy on, if I'm playing point guard that game, like we played against the Suns late in the year. I had a great game. Had like 20 some points, bunch of assists.

1:52:15And we had a, we had a couple of plays where I was like, I, I vividly remember, I was like, come screen for me. I'm about to go do something. And then I scored. I was like, that's the best feeling ever. Yeah. What's it like to like be on a heat check? You know, like I, I can't shoot a basketball, so I can't, I don't know. Yeah, no, that's a, that's a fun feeling where you just like, every time you let it go, you feel like it's going to go in. You got to have that feeling

1:52:37PFT Commenter:though when you when you yeah when you're when you're ripping it and you know it's like you know exactly where the ball is going to go on time that's that's probably the same yeah it's more like for me it's more like visually like seeing the field extremely quick and clear um anticipated yeah and then at that point the arm takes over but like it's more the mental aspect of it for me are there weeks where the prep like when you get on the field on sunday you're like oh shit i i'm like really ready to go because i know exactly what they're doing and i have all the answers Yeah. That's got to feel incredible.

1:53:08That one feels incredible. Yeah. There's been a few times, like every time we played Cincinnati when I was in Cleveland, I felt like, all right, I'm about to have 300 yards at least. Yeah. It's a great feeling.

1:53:17PFT Commenter:The Bengals a lot. It was good. It was good. Yeah. All right. I know you guys got to run in a second. At Raising Cane's, we focus on making the most crevable chicken finger meals, getting them right every time. That's why we hand batter every chicken finger, mix every cane sauce, butter every texas toast stir every slaw salt every fry squeeze every lemon and brew every ounce we do this inside every raising canes every day because when you do it right you can taste it in every bite raising canes chicken fingers one love and i'm giving my last question to zach who's a massive i was wondering if you're gonna get a appearance he's a massive bucks fan not a big intercourse guy yeah uh he's didn't see that saw the clip saw the clip where he said he wasn't uh he we've we we speed run ran uh his interaction with you baker earlier and he ended up inviting himself on your boat okay he also that's sick that's didn't go great yeah you want to go do karate in the garage yeah in the garage yeah you karate guy i could be you got room for activities in there?

1:54:28PFT Commenter:That's so much room. We can run that. Okay. Alright, so Zach, the floor is yours. Oh, Bigger, how are we doing today, my man? Fantastic. Great to see you. I just want to say I appreciate everything you do for the city of Tampa. It's so awesome seeing you out there on the field. Just quick questions. Are there any outside of football, any passion products or hobbies you would look forward to spending more time on later in life? Deep question. Honestly, it's the golf game. It's the golf game? Yeah, I would love to see how low I can get my handicap, but right now, not exactly the time for it. Fair enough.

1:54:57I love that answer. Golf, great sport. Super frustrating. And then if you're cool with one more, is there like a comfort meal after game or pregame that you dive into that's like your 1-1 of like, you know this is going to hit just right? Post game? You just said no. No more questions. I'm out. Pre game, no. It always depends on the time of the game. After the game, a lot of carbs. A lot of carbs, yeah. Love that. Because it's just like, you don't i'll have breakfast so let's say we're playing at one o 'clock i'll have breakfast pretty standard and then i won't eat until 6 p.m so it's mac and cheese yeah mac and cheese

1:55:37PFT Commenter:chicken tenders wings whatever it is yeah zach uh hip or do you have a follow-up question i mean you were talking in fast forward right oh my bad i can still you're good no no no i can hear it is there a uh so uh concentrated so heisman trophy we keep that in man cave mantle at the house, different spot. Bachelor pad, where are we keeping that? Bachelor pad, he's married with a kid. Second apartment. Man cave. Yeah, man cave. Man cave? Yeah. Sweet. You got a secret apartment that people don't know about? Where's your bachelor pad? When are we going to kick it? Hit him. So Zach is a recent hire at Barstool.

1:56:15PFT Commenter:He's electric. So why are you a Tampa fan? So I'm from Lakeland, Florida, which is like Central Florida. and now the Bucs have just, my whole life, been a Bucs fan. Yeah. So he got to, he moved to Chicago, moved, this is actually the first time he's been west of the Mississippi. So Zach is experiencing the new mile. That's sick. Yeah. But when he moved to Chicago, his apartment was right across from McDonald's and he gained 18 pounds in the first three weeks. Tell them what you ate for dinner every night. This is what you should do after the game, both of you guys. I was with you, Baker. I'm carb loading, just like you.

1:56:47Comfort, carbs. It wasn't too bad. I love protein too. Double cheeseburger, get two patties, a lot of protein. I appreciate that, Alex. Just two double cheeseburgers, no pickle, little onion, two large fries, and like 10 to 20 nuggets. Nothing crazy. Nothing crazy. It just continued to go. He always has the nuggets last. That's the McDonald's order. Just a carb load. We're on the same. We're both two carb loading guys. And? And dessert? You and ice cream? Yeah. You have a top flavor? I don't think you're like cookies and cream. Great pull. S-T-O, this guy knows cream. Bluebell. I like Ben and Jerry's.

1:57:24Makes sense. Maybe a pint or two of that. Maybe a pint or two. Two pints. Did you get an apple pie? I'm not. No, not apple pie at McDonald's. Do they take open walk-ons for the Nathan's hot dog eating competition? He should for that. Well, no, we actually did that earlier this week. Yeah. Not a great hot dog eater. He's not exactly.

1:57:43PFT Commenter:He likes to enjoy his meal. That's a sport thing. I'm more of like a pleasure guy. Got you. No time frame. No, no, no. Yeah, I got you. well okay one question what's your favorite west of mississippi so what's your favorite aspect of lake tahoe being here for a couple days uh the mountains look unreal like it doesn't feel like we're it's like a foreign world that we're in like we're just dropped like elevation like this or any kind of not at all and like there hasn't been a cloud in the sky whatsoever we're just on a different map this isn't this isn't the earth this is something i've never seen this place this place is not like most out here it's a little paradise it's yeah cooped up it's wild what about yourself do you have a anything in tahoe that you enjoy uh golf free golf golf is well yeah free golf like that you go that's nice all right good job zach great job great job all right baker alex thank you boys we appreciate you coming on this is a lot of fun and uh good luck this week appreciate it guys yeah whether you're debating watching that award-winning tv drama or re-watching your comfort comedy movie for the 10th time choices are important when it comes to choosing coverage a state farm agent can help you find options that are right for you like a good neighbor state farm is there Just like choosing a show to stream, State Farm has options to choose from to help you find coverage that best fits your needs.

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1:59:15PFT Commenter:okay we now welcome on a very very very special guest it is major league baseball commissioner rob manfred uh thank you so much mr commissioner what do you what do you what would you prefer to be called mr commissioner rob bob bob rob would be just fine okay well appreciate you coming on we have uh we're trying to collect all the commissioners anytime a commissioner is offered to us we're like we have to do it because obviously we're big sports guys and it's very important. Let's start with, though, congratulations for an incredible All-Star game. I would say MLB is the last sport that has an All-Star game that matters, and the swing-off was great.

1:59:52PFT Commenter:Are you using the swing-off maybe in the future in maybe some regular season stuff, and how would you assess the whole All-Star game? Well, let me start with the All-Star game. The entire four days was fantastic for us. It really was. We had a great home run derby, really exciting, great attendance at Playball Park, which gives people that don't get into the stadium an opportunity to participate in the weekend. And the game, although they got out 6-0, turned out to be a great game. And I loved the swing off. I thought it was really exciting. It was crazy in the ballpark, really, really exciting.

2:00:30Having said that, I don't think people need to worry about home run derbies at the end of regular season games, at least not for right now. I mean, it's not something we're talking about. You know, we went to it. The All-Star game is, you know, different, obviously, than a regular season game. It gives us the ability to let the managers use all the players during the nine innings. You know, you hate to have guys come all the way to the All-Star game and then not play. And, you know, frankly, for the fans, it's a really exciting way to end the game. Yeah, it was. And the swing off was incredible.

2:01:05But when I was watching the swing off, I couldn't help but think, what if the Home Run Derby was built like the swing off where we go back to the format where you get a set amount of swings as opposed to the timing? Have you given any thought to changing the format of the Home Run Derby? Yeah, we will regroup with ESPN and talk about the format of the Home Run Derby. It's one of those things that, you know, because it's an exhibition, it's easier to change the rules. You know, there's a variety of considerations there. You know, it's so fast now. We wanted to make it faster, but it's so fast now.

2:01:40There's some complaints that people can't even see the home run, you know, because the next one's coming so quickly. You know, look, I don't think people appreciate how exhausting it is for the players to take that many swings that fast. So it's something we will talk about. I did think that the Home Run Derby was a lot of fun to watch. I think maybe the biggest reason, there were rumors going into the Home Run Derby that maybe older guys like Christian Yelich were going to play. And America does not want to see that. So that was a great decision by getting the young guys. And we don't need Christian Yelich in the Home Run Derby.

2:02:14PFT Commenter:I think we should just make it a rule, like under 30 years old, Home Run Derby only, because we want to really – it's young stars. It's a showcase. I can't tell you the exact number now. I had it in my head, and I kind of lost it. But a lot of the guys, young guys that were in that, they're so motivated. It's a million-dollar prize. It's significant. When you're making many millions in a year, it's not quite so important. But I do think you get from the young guys, they get excited to do it. It's an opportunity for them to get real exposure. You know, the prize is worth it, you know, significant to them.

2:02:50So I take your point about the young guys. And look, in general, our game is so young right now. You know, I mean, guys are coming into the big leagues. They're making an impact really a lot faster than it used to happen.

2:03:04PFT Commenter:Yeah. I don't know if you could fix this. I've heard you talk about it where you guys had a strategy with your media where you had a place where everyone went to go watch MLB, and then you realized, hey, we've got to go where the people are, and we're going to let the clips be out there more. Is there any way we can work on games getting blacked out in certain areas? Because I know there's a lot of fans that struggle with that, and it's like, I just want to watch the game. I feel like I pay to be able to watch every game. I want to be able to watch the Cubs when I'm not in Chicago, but I also want to be able to watch it on my phone when I'm in Chicago.

2:03:35PFT Commenter:So is there a fix for that? Yeah, look, I mean, remember, there's fans talk about blackouts. Number one are at the top of my list in terms of things we need to deal with. And there's really conceptually three kinds of blackouts, right? You know, there's a club has an exclusive territory. They have an exclusive deal with usually a regional sports network. And for some reason in an outlying territory, that regional sports network isn't on every cable provider. OK, that one's a tough one for us. Right. I mean, because there's a contract in place, there's exclusivity hard to deal with. The second kind that people talk about is that just that a lot of RSNs don't have full distribution, even in the core market anymore.

2:04:32And again, that's something we can work on. We're working hard on it to make sure we've taken over five clubs and four of those clubs tried to make sure that as many cable providers as possible have distribution. And then, of course, the last one is national exclusivity. And we have a lot of national partners right now, right? Obviously, the big one, Fox and TNT, TBS. But in addition, Apple that has some exclusivity. And we are going to make an effort when we redo our national deals to be a little more streamlined, fewer places that have games so that fans can find them more easily.

2:05:17PFT Commenter:I appreciate that because it really is as simple as like everyone just wants to be able to watch without jumping through a ton of hoops. The game is the most important part. Rick, Shane, listen, and look, the ideal and, you know, I got to be completely clear about this. We don't get there till 2028 because that's when our national deals are up. But ideally, where you would like to be is if you have a digital home for baseball, you can go there and buy what you want to buy in market, out of market, however many games you want to buy. And if it's not there, it's on one or two maybe national outlets that most people have.

2:05:55Right. You know, that that's where you'd like to get. Ideally, I think, yeah, that would be a great place to end up at. Right now, we're after the All-Star Game. We saw the use of the robot umps. I know that you grade out the umpires. Major League Baseball gives grades to the umpires depending on their performance. How would you grade the robot that called balls and strikes during the All-Star Game? Yeah. You know, I'm big on ABS. Yes, you know, I mean, I call it the automated strike zone system because, you know, we're still going to have a human umpire behind the plate doing his thing. But look, the technology is awesome.

2:06:30Calling our umpires do a great job. But look, calling balls and strikes is tough for any human being. And I do think that the challenge system is, you know, kind of consistent with the idea of instant replay. Give us a chance to use technology to get it right in high leverage situations. I do think that in 15, 20 years, we're going to be looking back and saying, I can't believe that we had human beings with their eyeballs trying to determine like a span of inches on guys throwing 100 miles per hour. It is a hard job. I mean, it is a really hard job.

2:07:05PFT Commenter:Will you at least give us if you go all the way to robots where you have the ability for the robots to eject managers and pitchers? Oh, yeah. I mean, look, one of our principal considerations really, you know, I know you're being funny, but we really do want to maintain the role of the home plate umpire is the guy that manages the game. You know, you saw it. He's got an earpiece in his ear. It doesn't look very different than the regular game. And we think that's important. Yeah. I know that there's a CBA coming up. You guys are in discussions, the owners and the union, talking about what the next iteration of baseball from the financial aspect is going to look like.

2:07:51A lot of people have talked about the salary cap floor in exchange for the salary cap. Is that something that you feel is going to happen in the next CBA? Look, you know, I spent most of my career in collective bargaining. And one thing I've learned is making predictions in advance is a usually not accurate in terms of how it turns out and really not helpful to the process. I will tell you this. We have a ton of fans that feel in a lot of markets who feel like, you know, their team that they're passionate about doesn't have a fair opportunity to compete. And at the end of the day, we sell competition and we need to be listening to those fans.

2:08:39PFT Commenter:Yeah. So another another thing that bothers us from our point of view and when we do the show, we try to stick up for fans. is there anything that you can do when you have ownership and i'm not going to name specific ones but they're not specifically trying to put out a winner year in and year out like it's it's clear that they're not trying to compete for championships i think it's such a disservice to a city and a fan base when that is happening and i don't know what the fix is and it might be just an impossible question but it feels like there's got to be something there or maybe get them out and get someone in there who wants to spend the money to try to put out a winner yeah you know let me say it this way um i think it um is usually a mistake to focus on the owner um when it appears that um the owner isn't trying okay it is usually a product of the system in which you're working And I do believe that it's incumbent on us and the union for the sake of our fans to create a system where the incentives to always appear like you're doing the most possible for your fans to compete is a really important goal for both of us.

2:09:50Everybody involved in the game. Yeah, I think that you do have conflicting interests sometimes because you've got the reality is that in baseball, you don't have to spend money to make money if you own a team. right over the course of the years the value of your team it's going to go up uh if history has taught us anything you're going to it's a very sound investment that you're making uh you don't necessarily have to put the payroll out there to have a winning product to be successful as a businessman from the ownership perspective so big cat and i have actually tossed around a couple ideas of what could happen maybe you have uh three years in a row maybe let's go five years five years in a row you finish in last place in the division the owners then have to sit in the cheap seats with the fans for the entire season and get to deal with them face-to-face.

2:10:35Well, let me say this. Let me go backwards. It's important to really, particularly when you get into a bargaining year, that people understand what's really going on in the sport. With respect to franchise values, and this is a fact, and it's a surprising fact, the slowest growth in franchise values of the four major professional sports over the last decade has been baseball. Okay. And that is in large part due to the perception of a lot of fans that you're talking about, where they feel their team doesn't have a fair opportunity to compete. I think that when you see a situation where the fans feel, you know, gee, he's not spending, he's not spending.

2:11:22Usually this is the thinking that goes on. You know, I'm making money on my operations year in and year out. Pick a number. I'm making 20 million bucks. Right. So the owner goes to his analytics guy and says, you know, look, I can put another 20 million dollars into payroll. And the analytics guy tells him, look, the expectation is with 20 million dollars more in payroll, you're going to win two more games because you're. And that's it, because you're still going to be$150 million less than the big boys. That's the conundrum that those owners find themselves in. They don't have the capacity to spend, to get close enough, to make themselves more competitive.

2:12:07And we need to fix that for the benefit of the fans in those markets.

2:12:12PFT Commenter:But some of those owners just don't even try. They'll be like, oh, you could tell me I could get 10 more wins and I won't even, you know, I'm just going to go and put my product out there and make my money. That's where I get frustrated when it feels like those owners aren't really actually putting the full effort out there. Yeah. You know, I can't tell you that it doesn't look like that sometimes. I can tell you it is the very rare circumstance where an owner doesn't want to win. I mean, the fact of the matter is people don't buy these for business, you know, just because of the business or to make money.

2:12:52They buy it because they want to compete. They want to deliver their community a winner. And, you know, we need to get them within a structure where they have a better opportunity to do that in all of our markets. Maybe a test when you're thinking of becoming an owner, a ball knowers test. How many home runs does Barry Bonds have? You know, give him a standardized test. if they don't know the sport, they don't get the team.

2:13:15PFT Commenter:Just have them throw. Just say, hey, here, throw me this ball. I just want to see what it looks like. Watch the form. Look, I don't want to defend my guys endlessly. I will tell you this. The level of baseball knowledge among our ownership group is unbelievably high. Yeah, but can they throw? That's a different issue. Maybe that's what we've got to do. Look, I can't throw. What do you want me to tell you? We got some dumb... We love dumb ideas, so we're just going to throw a couple at you. You could just say no, but some of them might be interesting to you. Have you ever thought about the ceremonial first pitch counting?

2:13:54No. What do you think about that? Well, usually when I think about ceremonial first pitches, I have to say I think I'm like a lot of prudent first pitch throwers. You just don't want to embarrass yourself.

2:14:09PFT Commenter:Right, right. Right, but think about it like 50 Cent or the president or Beyonce. They are pitching to a live batter, and the first pitch counts. What do you think? I have to tell you, the only one on that list of three that you listed, President Trump has assured me on more than one occasion he can throw a hell of a first pitch. The other two, you're on your own. Okay. I mean, George Bush had maybe the most iconic first pitch of all time. That should have counted as a strike. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. President Bush is was actually a player in college and is a pretty darn good athlete. Yeah. So we're curious when we actually do have one more dumb idea for you.

2:14:43I have a couple more. OK. The bases. Have you thought about making them even bigger? Well, that's interesting. I have to tell you that the bigger base idea of all of those rule changes, like I got the clock. I understood why we were doing that from the very beginning. The shift thing. I got that, too. You know, get people where they're supposed to be and, you know, you're going to get a little more offense. I really like the bigger base thing. I'm like, what my guys came to me with that. I'm like, what the hell are you guys thinking about? You know, but, you know, in some ways it's been the most exciting change in terms of making the running game such a significant part of the sport again.

2:15:25Yeah, I was right there with you. And then somebody just explained to me, PFT, they're bigger. And then I was like, oh, OK, I get it. Yeah, that's a great idea. Yeah, they are. And, you know, you think about it. They're not, I mean, the difference in size is not so much, but, man, it has really made a difference in terms of way the game's played.

2:15:42PFT Commenter:Okay, another dumb idea. This might be where you start looking at the guys behind the camera and you're like, why did you set me up with this interview? Just hear me out, though. No bad ideas. Can we be in the trust tree? No bad ideas? 100%. Okay. You got, I will not be overly critical. How about that? Okay, perfect. Steroid month. Oh. just one month you really are pushing yeah yeah listen you said it though you said i understand you know look let me say this i understand um that people like to see home runs and you know because of my professional experience i understand that steroids work i'm a hard no how about yeah okay that's fair that's fair enough all right that's fair what if steroid month was October.

2:16:30Yeah, that's true. I mean, now we're talking about ratings. All right.

2:16:35PFT Commenter:Back to real questions. What's going on with the balls? I don't understand. So I don't buy into all the theories of like they're super juice this year, but it does feel like there is a difference year to year. Is that something you guys are actively trying to figure out? Yeah, so let's be clear about this year. The only complaint that's been made about the ball this year is that it has more drag, which actually makes it harder to hit home runs which kind of doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense when you look at who's leading in the American League, particularly those two, right? I mean, a lot of home runs being hit.

2:17:07But here's the problem. Our ball is handmade. You know, I've been, you go to Costa Rica, they're made in a factory, they are literally hand-sewn, right? It's leather, all natural materials, hand-sewn. Year to year, there will be variation with a handmade product. They're just saying it's like human, you know, the human condition, right? Can't be perfect. And, you know, we test them extensively. We have a range within which they fall every single year. And we've actually gone through a process where we've tightened those ranges and taken more control, actually, by investing in Rawlings and making sure there's no changes in the process to minimize the differences year to year.

2:17:54Will that issue ever go away? When you work in the game as long as I have, you know there are certain issues that are never going away. You are always going to hear about the baseballs no matter what we do.

2:18:06PFT Commenter:Yeah, no, that's true. That is absolutely true that the baseballs will always be a story. I'm curious, whenever we talk to a commissioner, you are the second commissioner on part of my take, I always want to know, what does a commissioner do on a day-to-day basis? How much of your time is spent putting out fires versus meeting with rights holders versus talking to ownership? A normal day at the office for a commissioner? I think about my job kind of two silos, right? On the silo that I think of as the governance side, that's regular communication with ownership. uh franchise transfers disciplinary matters collective bargaining that's it literally breaks down that's about half the time and then the other half of the time is what you would expect from somebody that runs you know central business is a six billion dollar business it's you know media rights licensing problems just the everyday running of a business that generates that kind of revenue do you have time to watch all the games do you watch baseball every day i watch a lot of baseball um you know uh i grew up a yankee fan i watch a lot of yankee games still um i try to balance that off by equal time with the mets because i live in new york but most nights i'm flipping between yankee or met and the extra innings package to follow what's going on in the rest of We have a co-worker who's not going to like the fact that you said that you watch more Yankees than Mets.

2:19:42PFT Commenter:He has dubbed you Rob Manfraud. Do you have any comments on that? Yeah, you know, that's a clever play on word. Frank the Tank, listen, you should do a walk with Frank the Tank. We can get that set up. It would be an electric, electric interview. Are you familiar with Frank the Tank? Yeah, you know, look, yes, I am. I am. You know, I actually, honestly, I'm getting old. I sat behind, right behind home plate at Citi Field, right in back of two of your colleagues. Okay. Who were big Mets fans, and I can't remember who it was. It might have been Frank and Stu, which is like, if you can sit behind them, then you're good.

2:20:23PFT Commenter:Like, you passed the test. Can I tell you something? So here's the thing. I'm a beer drinker. You know, I try to do it not necessarily sitting in a ballpark for obvious reasons. I'm telling you, these two guys put together a collection of empty cups. That was really, I mean, it was impressive. Yeah, Frank, maybe if it was like, yeah, Frank is on that good, clean living right now. We did, we chatted back and forth and, you know, the whole thing. And I can tell you who I was with. I just can't remember the two guys' names, but they were impressive. The biggest complaint that Frank has had is that he says that you don't love baseball.

2:21:02Do you love baseball? Can I tell you something? When you spend, you know, I started working on baseball first as an outside lawyer for 10 years and then working here. Since 1988, I have done one thing in my professional career, and that's worked in baseball. And, you know, some days are good. Some days are great. Other days are really, really hard. And if you don't love this game, you don't want to do this. Are you still romantic about baseball? Absolutely. Absolutely. I'll tell you, you know, there were a couple of things at the All-Star game that, you know, kind of you do get almost emotional about.

2:21:41You know, I was down on the field before the game and I was watching Joe Torrey, who's worked with me for years and years, back in uniform as a coach, went over and chatted with Joe. And he said a couple of things about what he was thinking that I have to tell you, just really stirring. I mean, it just makes you feel great about the game and how important the game is. And the Hank Aaron moment, that was another one. Yeah, that was great. Unbelievable. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely unbelievable. You know, and for me, you know, I've known, I knew Hank and his wife, Billy, for a long time. He and Commissioner Seeley were very close.

2:22:16And, you know, so I'd see him frequently at special events. To me, the most emotional part of that was watching Billy during that. She's a great woman, and it was a great tribute and just really emotional to see how she reacted to it.

2:22:30PFT Commenter:Yeah. I got a real question about the Frank, we're joking with the man fraud thing, although he does call you that all the time. But how do you kind of compartmentalize and deal with that where you're getting booed or people are blaming you for everything? Because I think it is one of those things with the commissioners of all four sports leagues where there's, yeah, some things you can disagree with. But at the end of the day, their job isn't really to be liked. And they get killed a lot. And that's kind of part of what you sign up for. Can you, like, does it affect you? Look, truthfully, anybody who tells you it doesn't bother them, they're probably not telling you the truth.

2:23:06Nobody likes to get booed. I'll tell you a funny story. So my 7-year-old grandson went to the draft. He sat right in the front row. And there was two funny things about that. You know, when you come out and you see this little kid that you love dearly, you know, he's clapping his hands off. the boos don't matter you quite as much right but you know he came in the next morning and I was sitting having a cup of coffee and he said to me you know papa there was no boos last night I said George you got to be boo deaf if you didn't hear that's a good grandson but look you know it's part of the job you know you understand that you know people want to express themselves and you try not to pay too much attention to it you have to be thick-skinned and accept it for what it is is that something that you guys are going to be talking about in the next CBA in regards to the draft the uh the idea that it's not always the best player or the the player that most teams have at the top of their draft board that will get drafted in the top positions you know because of how they how you get slotted in with how much money you're expected to sign for yeah it feels a little bit disjointed from every other draft that we've seen where you take the best player with the top pick?

2:24:17Yeah, I think that there are aspects of our draft that have gotten away from a really, really simple but important concept. The team that was the worst last year should get the best player in the draft, and there should be nothing that interferes with that correlation, right? So, you know, if hard slots are what it takes to make that happen, that's what we ought to do. The lottery thing, I'm not sure that it really affects behavior of teams in any meaningful way. And, you know, sometimes you get into these situations where the team that was the worst is picking further down in the draft than they ought to be.

2:25:02I'm a believer, you know, every 30 picks a team should have a pick and unless they've traded it somehow and that the worst team should get the first pick.

2:25:15PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right. This has been great. Thank you so much, Rob. I got one last question. It's the Roback question. RHOBACK.com promo code take 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, Roback.com promo code take. So, so awesome having you on. You know, you're always welcome to come back. My last question is, do you think the 50-50 raffles at each stadium are rigged, and how the hell can I win it? I don't think they're rigged, and I got nothing for you on that one. Oh, come on. All right, what about this? Can we get some gold cards? Listen, here's the thing. Oh, gold cards you got to earn.

2:25:51All right. Gold cards you got to earn.

2:25:54PFT Commenter:Yep. Fair. Listen, guys, it was fun to be with you. I'm glad I had a chance to do it. We'll do it again, I'm sure. All right. All right. Thanks so much. Sounds good. Thanks so much. Appreciate it. Bye-bye. Take care. All right, see ya. Okay. Good show, boys. We got anything else? Football's back. I'm just so happy. Football's back. Hank, football's back. Say it back. Football's back. Say it back. Football. It is. I don't want to say it. Just say it. It's not. You don't even like football. It is. It's disgusting. It is sad that we're like, this is the best it gets for you. Like, this is the best Hank we got.

2:26:29PFT Commenter:What? What? It's true. What does that mean? Because you're happy with your personal life right now. Yeah, you have golf, and it's summer. And then as soon as when we get our happiest, you are like, blah. That's good, though. It's like cycles. It can't all be on the same cycle. It'd be nice to have everyone be excited about football. I was super excited about football for like six years. Who's your college team going to be this year? I don't know. UNC. Yeah, UNC. Yeah, oh, UNC. You should do a tour of all of the big games. Dude, I need an update of every UNC game from you. Done. Not that you have to watch them.

2:27:06PFT Commenter:Done. Sorry, Washington, you're out. Yeah. It was fun while it lasted. Oh, is ACC media week this week? Might be. Does Jordan get her own booth? She has to. Yeah. Has she reached out about the takeies? Anyone? So a lot of people were reaching out. Appreciate everyone who won an award. Did RG3 ever say anything about it? I did not see anything from RG3. Mel Kiper was fired up. What? He posted on his story. He said, thanks for the award. No shit. Yeah. He has an Instagram? Mm-hmm. Wow, good for Mel. Jerry says football's back. Jerry just downloaded all his fantasy apps right now. Breaking news, football's back.

2:27:43Oh, football's so back then. Football's so back.

2:27:46PFT Commenter:Okay. Oh, hear that click. Let's talk about something else for a second. Pug, how was your weekend? Pug, how was your weekend? Did you tap in? I tapped in once Where did you tap in? What was the number you gave it? Three Fuck, 99 Damn it What are you doing, dude? He's the big cat snuck it in He snuck in numbers I said, what's the number you gave it? 91, pug That's fucked up memes He had headphones on too Yeah, he did have the headphones on I was getting ready to answer the question That's what he does He gets you off guard and then you don't know what to do. That was messed up. They take your number and then I take yours.

2:28:2960. It's a chain reaction. 91 put. I told him I was playing offense for him. Need more offense.

2:28:37PFT Commenter:What's your other number, memes? I got a bunch of them. Six. Six. All right, I'll do six. 26. What do you got, Shane? What happened? Shane? Oh, PFC took your number. I said 60. Oh, yeah. Wait, no one took two. Oh, did Max take 21? Yeah. Oh. What the fuck, Max? John B, dude. Chain reaction. It is chain reaction. This is bullshit. LT, Jeff. We just can't let memes ever win with three. That's the thing. It's like if three ever comes up, which it never will, it has to be someone else. Memes, if you win with 99, I think we all agree it's bullshit.

2:29:28PFT Commenter:looks like 89 to me oh my god that's back to back times should have picked 89 should have picked 89 bro love you guys sorry man

2:29:55Thank you.

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2:31:30Thank you.

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