Brian Windhorst, The Knicks Are 2 Wins Away From A Title, The Stanley Cup Final Has Been Insane + Who's Back Of The Week

22:31And then I was like, you know what? Let's not make this about Embiid. And then I deleted the tweet and then saw the replies that it was like, this is AI, this is AI. I was like, all right, good win, good win. Hank, how are you handling this, knowing that the Knicks will soon be in play for the team of the 20s? Yeah, I mean, they're going to sweep this series and probably have a case to be one of the greatest teams of all time. It's tough. I put an absolute nuke on the Knicks because I just knew that, you know, the spurs were gassed and and they they didn't have what it takes and i was so i was kind of rooting for the knicks in that game because i i bet a big bet on it and it was like the game was so rigged for the net so right and somehow the knicks still won it's over i mean the the the scene in msg on on monday is going to be insane and even if they they can lose the next three games i still think they win what they're not gonna they're not gonna lose any of them wait

23:30PFT Commenter:they could lose the next three games and still win yeah what yeah i think if the i'll say right now if the knicks lose the next three games they could be in a little bit of trouble i'm gonna say that i'm just gonna be blatantly on like that would be a i'd be i'd be nervous if i were a knicks fans being like hey we just lost three in a row including two at home that feels like that would be a pretty bad momentum swing but yeah i mean knicks knicks fans are are insufferable and they're all coming out of the woodwork and it's it's it's tough but you have to just accept it is what it is there's nothing there's no as much as i want to hate hate hate it's like they this team cannot be stopped what do you mean they're all coming out of the woodwork i feel like nicks fans and now you could you could not like the nicks fan base uh i'm just happy we're not in new york but in that much but in terms of like diehard fan bases that have been through shit i think the nicks are high up there like the nicks are the nicks have some crazy you don't think that Knicks fans keep their fandom close to the vest?

24:30I don't think so. Yeah, I mean, I guess this is what happens when teams make a championship run. It's like, you know, not saying like anyone here, but there's just people I see on social media and stuff like when we were in New York where it's like all of a sudden they're like going to the bars. That's what you're saying. The New York transplant. It also hangs right. It's like, how come, oh, you're such big Knicks fans. I don't remember you guys tweeting so much about the NBA finals when the Knicks weren't playing in them. Like, of course, they're going to be more locked in when their team is in the fucking finals.

25:03PFT Commenter:Also, New York's got to be electric right now. Oh, it looks disgusting. Oh, my God. You can't come. Summer hot trash on the streets. It has to be electric. Ooh, the mystery water hitting you when you walk down the sidewalk. Yeah. There's got to be like a sense of just joy around New York City right now that is electric. Ticker tape parade if they win. Canyon of Heroes. Yeah. I looked it up the other day, but I didn't even realize that their parade route is Broadway. Yeah, it's right by our office. Yeah. Yeah. You should go. No. Did you see the - You and Meem should go together to the parade. Oh, you videotape Meem?

25:43PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. I'm busy. Did you see the get-in price now is what,$10 ,000? Crazy. Sheesh. I thought about buying a ticket. Did you? Yeah. That's just a throw up if they lost. Yeah, I know. That's the thing. I get it for game four or six, but game three, that is an extra$10 ,000. A lot of fucking money. It's crazy. It's so much. It's crazy. What do you think is the most hyped event at MSG? Game three or the Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey wedding? Yeah. I was going to talk about this. Yeah. I mean, it's. How tacky is that? Well, I think you believe it. It's real. Yeah. Oh, I don't. They're going to invite a thousand people to MSG.

26:31PFT Commenter:I feel like this is I feel like they're pulling a fast one. Well, I think there's two scenarios going on. I could be very, very wrong. You know what? I am hoping that I am right because I don't. I agree. Tacky as hell. If they actually do this. I think either one, they sent out a bunch of dummy invites being like, we know we have a rat somewhere in our group and let's wait to see it get reported to they actually have so much money they did rent out msg and all the people that are not really like the closest to them will be there and then there'll be a video screen being like we're actually in a private like we're in an island somewhere far away having our real wedding sorry you couldn't make it but we really didn't want the paparazzi to blow it up so we told everyone that we're doing it in madison square garden or they're doing theirs in the hulu theater yeah just downstairs yeah and everyone else can watch upstairs that was my initial i don't know if it's gonna happen it could be smoking out of rap because like it sounds like there was one source to talk to the press about this if they do it and it's going to be tacky you should just go full-on tack you should sell tickets like you should sell that place out have it be like 30 000 people there to watch you get married how much i mean to get in for that might be more than right three how much you think ticket prices would be if they like sold the entire stadium for their wedding like 10 grand probably more yeah swifties you think there are more taylor swift fans or new york nick fans out there i was gonna make a joke but i don't want to get the swifties upset at me i mean it's probably swifties someone someone could make the joke like what i knew you were gonna make the joke i'm not gonna make the joke but like what is it someone could say like well it's well they gotta save up for their cat's college education.

28:22PFT Commenter:You could say that. I could, but I didn't. I did not say that. And I wouldn't say that. That would be wrong of me to make that joke. Good thing you didn't make the joke. You'd also just be like, they don't have jobs. Is posting online a fandom account, is that a job? We're not making any of these jokes. I think this is a dummy wedding they're putting out. I think they're getting everyone off the scent. It could be. You're looking right now Oh the get in prices come down a little Five grand Fuck it Make a billion dollars off this wedding If you're them Sell tickets Also put it on pay per view Yeah Live on pay per view Yeah why not Go for it Do the whole nine yards You'll never have to work a day in your life You could retire off of your wedding That's a pretty sweet gig I'm pretty sure they're good right now I know but you could like You could probably make a billion dollars Double retire You could make a billion dollars on your wedding They should just make it like a, like just televise it and pay-per-view.

29:16That's really what it is. Pay-per-view it. Well, they're also smart because they're only having one wedding, unlike Max. So if Max tried to do this, it would be like, oh, just catch night three. Yeah. If you want to get back with the Swifties, you could buy the courtside seat and then like do toys here.

29:31PFT Commenter:That was going to be my who's back because I was going to throw out to the group. Is that creepy if I bought the seat that Taylor Swift sat in? It is being auctioned off. I mean, it's a little creepy. But it also would be cool if we just had it in the office. It would be cool. That would be cool. That would be the least cool. We've gotten a lot of cool things. You're telling me if there was a seat just sitting in the middle of the court and I was like, hey, that's the seat that Taylor Swift sat in to watch James Harden blow another playoff game. You wouldn't feel a little bit of goosebumps? No, sir.

30:06PFT Commenter:Okay. I guess you're not a Swifty like me. Cats. I did no one made that joke no one made that joke uh okay so if there's one person out here that knows about putting catches through college yeah it'd be me my good friend me think about it uh memes what are you saying memes wants to sniff the chair no I said I bet you somebody would sniff the chair I'm not yeah would you sniff the chair I would not I would not crazy fam I'd buy the chair I also wouldn't judge if anyone sniffed it but I would buy it that would actually memes is gonna sniff this chair That would probably be... We would have to hire extra security if that chair was here.

30:44PFT Commenter:Yeah. Like, that chair would need a full-time guard. Or we'd just have, like, Dana sit in it first. If you smell the chair, you get shot. I think you'd just have Dana Beer sit in it first. Like, go ahead and sniff it, dude. I would just fart in that chair. I think... I'm guessing that this auction is going to get out of my price range. I think there's seven days left. I saw it at two grand. I think I'm going to be tapped out at... I don't know. You can't. I think two grand might be my limit for this chair. Because it's going to attract a lot of freaks. That's the thing. Yeah. But it is a very funny thing that they're auctioning off this chair.

31:21PFT Commenter:I don't really know who benefits from this auction. Where do you find this auction? Click on the ESPN article that was there. You just had it. Oh. Okay. Now click on the other thing. Another thing. It says right there. There's hyperlinks. You know what a hyperlink is, dude? A hyperlink, dude. Come on. Dude, have you ever hyperlinked? current bid six grand i'm out i'm out i'm out yeah i'm out that's gonna get up to like 50 i think i'm out that is officially i've recused myself and all taylor swift chair all right so memes and zach are you guys gonna watch the game together on monday night i'm i'm currently doing the same thing every single game day which is uh being mad at everyone yeah come in get into a fight with hang being too nervous to talk being too nervous to talk yeah anyone who says like anything to you you just immediately talk about the knicks and nothing else yes that too possibly punch someone you have the same pregame meal yeah same pregame meal which is uh i fucked up i i got cheese curds and some chicken only at the cheese curds so now i have to eat cheese curds every single time okay i wear my knicks sweatshirt i sit on the same spot on the couch it was like 100 degrees in my apartment i refused to put on the ac so i was just soaking why i just i just couldn't i couldn't turn it on that's part of the that's part of the vibe you can't have your you also you got to make sure that i alert security and be like hey just keep an eye on them this week yeah that too zach what's your pre-game meal been like wait do you forgive Zach yet?

32:55PFT Commenter:You have to. Yeah. That was the most no-get ever. All is forgiven. Actually, we're golfing tomorrow. You guys have to ride together. Sure. Good? Yeah, sure. Knicks lose the next four games. Do you forgive them? Nope. Zach, what does the pregame meal look like for you? I've just been ripping chicken thighs and mashed potatoes. Chicken thighs? Yeah. How are you cooking those? They're a little fat. I've just been getting them down the street. So I'm not cooking. I'm just getting them sent to the house. Okay. A little fatty, but still good. Okay. That's a pretty healthy meal. Watch it from bed. Hank, what's your pregame meal?

33:34PFT Commenter:This has been the worst NBA playoff. Yeah, I've not been doing like a superstitious. I've been eating different meals on different days. Ever since you said this is your favorite two weeks? Well, no. That was the first round of the playoffs. I know, but it's like everything's gone bad since then. Yeah. Yeah, it's been tough. It's been tough. At least the hockey's been entertaining to watch. Yeah. So, Hank, back to your team of the 20s nightmare scenario that you have. I would say that if the Knicks win this finals, I think that they're already ahead of the Celtics because they beat you in the playoffs last year.

34:11PFT Commenter:And also if they don't lose again. Yeah, if they don't lose again, then they probably have an argument. The Celtics, I think, have more conference finals and more finals appearances. so yeah they lost one head-to-head to the next but i still think the southics have it but that's that's that's there's a lot of a lot of years left this decade so not a lot yeah it's 2026 yeah there's enough years where it's like the there's three years whatever the standings are after the season don't mean a lot yeah okay but they've at least tied it up you can't claim your 20s were better than the next if they win this no but the 20s aren't over right we'll be we'll be neck and neck right but this is like also just like juju for like all in new york city this is the longest you know this is the last yeah no i said i'll show you a long time how it was crazy how he lived there for so long and they never won shit and it's like now they're actually who is like you know obviously it was you know red socks and cubs and then i think the knicks i think it's other than the Knicks, the Bills, maybe Lions, Browns, but even all of Minnesota.

35:23PFT Commenter:All of Minnesota. Okay. But in terms of great stories, there's only a handful left of long-suffering fan bases. Indians. Yeah. Guardians. Guardians. Guardians. The Jets. Yeah. So that's my fear. It's like, what if this just knocks the lid off for New York and then they can't stop winning? Would you take this if it knocks the lid off, but for the wrong teams, memes?

35:51All except one.

35:53PFT Commenter:The Rangers. Yeah. What if the Yankees, Rangers, and Giants all go on? Yankees go nuclear. Who cares? Yeah, Rangers, they suck. Yeah. Okay. Anything else for the game? I'm excited for game three. There should have been a game on Sunday. I don't know why there wasn't a game on Sunday. There should have been a game on Sunday. Figure it out. There should be. The fact that there was no Stanley Cup and no NBA Finals game today is just a disaster of the highest order. We need sports on weekends. I'd agree. Figure it out. I'd agree. Okay. We're going to talk more NBA Finals with Wendy, who's actually on site in New York now.

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39:04PFT Commenter:slash promos okay boys the stanley cup final unbelievable so game three we had the mitch marner hat trick in the second period alone the the knights scored six goals in the second period two of them were were disallowed correct calls yep including one where i i i had the theory that Anderson, the goalie for the Hurricanes, got concussed because he got his head whipped around, and then he gave up four goals like that. So his 4-0 looked like it was like, hey, Vegas is just, this is going to be the easiest win ever. They're probably going to win the Stanley Cup final. And then in a matter of 39 seconds in the third period with 12, 13 minutes left, the Hurricanes scored three goals.

39:51PFT Commenter:Three goals in 39 seconds. Score fourth to tie it up to take it to overtime. go to double overtime, and then the Knights win the game in double overtime off a ricochet shot at the Chipotle sign. I think it was kind of an own goal, but they credited it to a guy from the Knights for being the last to touch it. But it was a soft goal. It was a weird goal, weird way to end it. The Knights needed that. In this game, like you said, Mitch Mara, I think that's the fastest hat trick in terms of time elapsed on the clock from goal number one to goal number three in Stanley Cup Finals history. Then it was a four-goal comeback, which I believe is the first four-goal comeback in Stanley Cup final history.

40:32And then, like you said, the 39 seconds to score those three goals was the fastest scoring burst, I believe, in Stanley Cup final history as well. Crazy game. And then it goes to overtime and nobody scores. Yep. And then everyone's butthole is super tight watching it. Just like crazy, crazy tense hockey. Again, a weird way to end it, but if the Knights don't get that luck, They're fucked, I think. I don't think that they can give up that comeback and then go on to win the cup final afterwards. It would have been very hard. That would have made them crumble. And I think that if the team that wins that game, I believe it's about 80 % of the time goes on to win the Stanley Cup.

41:10PFT Commenter:This series has just been on crack. I mean, every single game has been just a big lead, blown, comebacks, two overtime games it's just been such fun fun hockey and Mitch Marner is the story right now he is obviously the the guy who's probably on pace to win the con smite if the uh finals ended today he is he's just changed the entire narrative he needed to get change of scenery he was this this is all to blame for uh for the good people of Toronto but Mitch Marner in 70 games playoff games before this year he had 13 goals in 19 playoff games uh this year he's got 10 goals so a little bit of a difference he's been on fire he's been incredible i asked the guys i asked biz and wit and yans and i was like not to troll but like is this literally just a like blame toronto and they said it's a little more nuanced specifically that the knights are just a way better team overall so he's benefiting from playing on a better team but yes part of it is that there was a lot of pressure in toronto and he's from toronto and being away from that probably has loosened his game up yeah he's played he's the best player on the ice it was um it was close to being a disaster for the golden knights now everything is sunshine and rainbows because they were able to luck their way into a win and it's crazy how quickly that can happen like they would be so down on themselves if they didn't happen to to squeak that one out now i think they're probably gonna i'm gonna bet on them next game and i'm gonna bet on them game afterwards love the nights love these nights yeah and uh we also had with mendoza did mendoza get in on the crank off was he a cranker i believe he was yeah he was cranking that shit he was cranking the fuck out of it so i don't know number one pick heisman winner national champion i feel like i feel like This is just, we said it before the series started.

43:15PFT Commenter:Whoever wins the crank off is probably going to win the series. And they got to break out Mark Davis. They have to. Let Mark crank. Yeah, Mark Davis, it's over. If Mark Davis, you want to win right now, have him crank it. What are you going to counter with, David Tepper? Can't do it. Can't do it. Can't do it. Oh, David Tepper would be funny because I just, I don't know, just something about him cranking. You can't overcome Mark Davis crank. No. We should get a crank. We should. Yeah. You're right. We should get a crank. The pause in your sentence there. Listen, any minor league team, any team that is trying to upgrade their crank, let me know.

43:54PFT Commenter:I would love to buy the crank. Vegas, if you win at all, I'd buy that crank in a second. You should upgrade to a newer crank. I don't think you can sell the Stanley Cup crank. It's just basically fishing. That's just what they're doing. They're just reeling in a big shark. Oh, these are... Listen, Big Cat, these are cheap. Really? Yeah, cranks are cheap. Okay. We can get probably the best crank. Can you buy one on Amazon? Yeah. We need a game-used crank. You can get probably the best crank ever made for less than$300. Okay. But we do need a game-used crank. I think that would be... And it would be fun to do it before NFL Sundays.

44:32PFT Commenter:Yeah, we'd have to get Soldier Boy in here to do the first one. Yeah, that would be fun. We should bring in gas to crank before Sunday. Yeah, we should. It pretty much will just be our Uber Eats delivery driver. Just be like, hey, man, you want to hit the crank? Yeah. Who's going to be the celeb crank at the gambling cave this week? Okay. Do you guys want to play the fun game I was talking about? Yeah. Sweeping the nation? Yeah. So I didn't realize this. We often talk about it with the NFL Combine. But the NHL Combine, they might have weirder questions than the NFL Combine. Did you guys see any of these go?

45:10PFT Commenter:They weren't viral, but there were some questions that were being thrown around. So apparently the Canadians are like the king of these questions. And they also do weird thought experiments where they'll like hand you a puck and they'll say, shoot this puck, like throw this puck into the trash can. And they'll basically base it on like, how deep are you going to go? What's your confidence level at? But the question that was asked, this prospect, Caleb Malhotra, who's going to be a top pick, said that the Canadians or someone asked one of his buddies, if you are on a deserted island with no water for a day's walk and you had someone beside you with a water bottle, would you kill them to take the water?

45:56PFT Commenter:So a day to get more water or would you kill that person? This to me sounds like when Dwight Schrute tried to establish a pee corner in the elevator after like 10 seconds of being in there. You just walk. You can just walk and not murder somebody. Okay. The other one to the Canadians, I think this is an iterate. So they've done this a couple times. The other one they asked a couple years ago. If you were stranded in a deserted island with someone and only a bottle of water and a baseball bat and you can't share the water and the other person takes the water first, what do you do with the bat?

46:29So you're essentially saying you're going to die Yeah If it's Desert Island

46:37Okay here's what you do You have to play the hand game on the bat And then whoever wins gets the water You go hand over hand

46:44PFT Commenter:Or you say hey let's play a game of baseball Throw me that water bottle I'll try to hit it and then you grab it Why can't you share the water I don't know You can't. The thing is, if it's a desert island, one bottle of water, you're both going to die. Just one person is going to survive like two days longer. Why can't you share the water? I don't like... You can't share the water, Max. You can't share the water. You going to kill someone? In what world would you not be able to share the water? When you're getting interviewed by the Montreal Canadiens for the NFL Combine, then you can't. You want another one?

47:20PFT Commenter:How do you describe the color blue? blue that's a good one these are so stupid sky sky ocean that's good apparently they also hand hand someone a brick and they say list all the things you can do with it in the next 30 seconds a brick brick okay um go hank bicep curls okay throw it through a car window yep throw it through a house window. Why would you do these things? You asked what he could do. He can do that. Yeah, I know. It's a follow-up question. Why? Stand on and dunk. Yep. Kick it. You can throw it at a person. Build a house. Nope. Not with one brick. You can start to build a house. You can start to build a lot of stuff.

48:10PFT Commenter:Start the process of building a house. What else could you do with a brick? A brick of what? Doorstop. My question would be doorstop. Good one. Yep. A brick of wood. Yeah. Paperweight. Put that brick in your face. Yeah, true. Put it in the streets. Yeah. Cut it. Step on it with baby powder. Yep. Yep. Zach, what would you do with the brick? Well, yeah, you could make two bricks, and then you could also take that brick, and then you ask the guy next to you how he would sell this brick. Okay. Oh, I got another one. You can take it to the NHL Combine and ask prospects what they would do with it. Yeah.

48:46That would fuck them up mentally.

48:47PFT Commenter:they'd be like damn or got us i you know what if i were sitting in that meeting i'd be like i could smash it over your face so you stop asking me all these dumb questions knock you out through a fucking practice my slap shot with a brick yeah okay a little weight a little weight yeah or your golf swing yeah yeah all right here's another one hockey these are mostly from the canadians i think uh it's world war ii and you're the captain of a boat yeah and you have to bomb an enemy boat but your teammates are swimming in the ocean in between you and the enemy boat. Yeah. What's the question? What do you do?

49:24Memes keep saying kill Max for all of these hypotheticals. Put the bomb in the air. The past three, he's just said kill Max. Or whatever one of those. Wait, we're talking about a torpedo? I don't know. Are we talking about a bomb? I don't know. I'm just reading off of what they said. Are we talking about an aircraft carrier? I shouldn't have asked this question because I should have known you guys were going to get bomb. A lot of questions. Details on the bombs. A lot of questions I would need to know first. All right, how about this one? Just avoid the teammates. Be accurate. Accuracy is one of my favorite things.

49:50PFT Commenter:Hit your spot. Yeah. Would you rather have a four-year career in the NHL and win a cup? Yes. Or a 10-year career in the NHL with no cup? Okay. 10-year. The honest answer is 10-year easily. Yeah. But the answer I would give in this interview is four years. No. I think the answer is 10-year if you want to give. Apparently, the answer was 10-years because they wanted to see how much you loved the game. Yeah. I would never want to stop playing The thing about me is I love winning But you can't control your teammates, you can't control where you end up If you play for the Canadians, you're never going to win That sounds like loser talk to me You'd rather play for 10 years Oh, by the way, the brick was actually from the Islanders That's right You like that now I love it Alright, last one of this very fun game I had no idea that this was We'll have to ask the boys when they come back on But I thought that the NFL was the king of weird combine questions.

50:45PFT Commenter:Everyone's always trying to get a stupid edge. Right. But here's the last one. The last one is if you were at a restaurant and you ordered a BLT with cheese and the sandwich came without any cheese on it, what would you do? Absolutely nothing. I'm eating the BLT.

51:05Same. I look at it like. Absolutely nothing. accidental diet okay they did me a favor by leaving the cheese off i had it i had this

51:15PFT Commenter:moment just a bltc yeah i had this moment this morning i took my kids to the diner and they like their bacon crispy and i said i asked the waitress to make it very crispy and they came back and it was borderline burnt and i just was like kids you're eating this bacon you're not going to complain but i said the word very so that was on me i think yeah i think saying very changes everything yeah we were just talking about uh we're not gonna say who but one member of part of my take is very very picky about some of their orders that they put in shane i would say like 75 percent of the time his order arrives and there's something off about it compared to what he ordered and he i don't think he ever eats it he just sits there and like looks at it sadly it's like if you have if you're going to be a picky eater you have to learn to accept defeat because most of the time they're going to fuck something up and you know what a real man does when their order is a little bit fucked up, they sit there and they take it in silence and they eat.

52:07Yeah. My order could be all the way fucked up and I sit down, take it and eat. It is what it is. Yeah. When you order something... It's in God's hands. Yeah. You're not in control of what you're actually getting. Yeah. You've thrown yourself into a very dangerous game. If you want something exactly particular of how you want it, make it yourself.

52:28PFT Commenter:Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I can't remember the last time I've ever sent something back. Never. I can tell you never. Yeah. I don't like there's not there's not a world. I maybe I've like if you get it's medium rare now medium rare plus. Yeah. If you get a steak, but it has to be like so off. You know what I mean? And it can't be off. Yeah. Overcooked. It has to be so undercooked that you can just say, hey, can you just put this back on there for like a minute? So we went to the Outback. I believe it was in Baton Rouge when Pup Punk was playing a show there. I had the rarest steak ever, sir, to the point where it was like kind of gray on the outside and then just read the entire way through.

53:09And I just sat. I took one bite. I was just like, I'm just going to take it. I'm just not going to eat my steak.

53:14PFT Commenter:I had one in West Virginia for Rough and Rowdy that was like, I cut into it. I was like, this is actually disgusting. Eat the whole fucking thing. And it was disgusting. But listen, men don't complain. They don't complain about that. That's what a man does. We don't complain about that. Never. You complain about it to the people at your table, and then the waiter comes over, and he's like, hey, how was everything? Oh, delicious. Oh, incredible. What about - Oh, yeah, when your plate's like half eaten, and they're like, oh, you didn't like that? I'm like, no, no, I loved it. I'm just saving for later.

53:45PFT Commenter:Or you'll move stuff around. That's what I do. If I hate something, if it comes out and it's not what I wanted, I'll move shit around strategically to look like I ate it. Yeah. What about returning clothes? No. Never. No. Never. No, that was just a mistake. Well, I assume you're talking about buying online. Yeah. Yeah. That's just part of the game. There's just a part of the game where you're like, hey, you know what? Maybe I shouldn't buy these things that are, I don't know the fit of them because the Instagram swipe up ad was targeted towards me. I bought a pair of pants a couple of weeks ago that just like same size I always get.

54:21Wasn't even close. I could barely even like get it around my waist.

54:24PFT Commenter:Yeah. sizes just aren't the same ever I bought a sweatshirt that was just a tummy shirt it was XL and it was a tummy shirt Zach and I always say fake 2X it's a fake 2X we're doing a lot of crop tops now way too many crop tops I don't know what's happened but we gotta stop that my mom for my birthday like 3 years ago got me a shirt from LL Bean it arrived it was I believe a triple XL I don't know how she clicked on that to order that for me and I did send it back And I sent it back to get a large size. Then I got a bill from LLB and saying I owed him, I believe it was like$1.40. Just decide not, I'm not going to pay that.

55:04And so like a year later, they were still hounding me down and being like, sir, we need the$1.40 for return postage. I finally called him up and I fought City Hall. I won. Hell yeah. They finally waived it. They said, all right, we can see we're not getting the$1.40 from you. Good job. Tip of the cap, sir. Well played. Hell yeah.

55:19PFT Commenter:Shane has entered the chat. Uh-oh, what'd he say? He said they got me the completely wrong order. Oh, okay. It was a burger. It was a soft pretzel and a burger. I'd eat that. I'd eat that so fast. That's actually, you've been blessed, dude. Yeah. You've been blessed with a burger and a pretzel. I got sent a box of flour the other day. What? And you ate it like a man. And you boofed it. It was insane. What do you mean? I ordered, they were here. I won't say the place because I posted and they reached out and they were like, I will give you credit. I still wasn't like, I'm not even going to. I'm not going to.

55:57I don't even need a reorder. It was like comically. I ordered just like a lunch and they fucked up the orders and they sent me. I guess this place sells flour in bulk. They just sent me like a pound of flour.

56:11PFT Commenter:That's crazy. Yeah. Didn't complain. Should have made bread, yeah. Yeah. Should have done something about that. Okay, any other stories before we do Who's Back? Is Brandon Ayuk wearing commander's gear? Yeah. I keep going back and forth between, like, it's good to have one kind of crazy wide receiver on your team. And also, like, I think he just might be actually crazy. Yeah. So we'll see. There is a conspiracy theory out there that the Niners canceled their OTAs so that he wouldn't show up so they could continue to recoup money and not have to pay him. Got it. It's kind of like the episode of Seinfeld where Costanza keeps having to break into the office because they're trying to get him to quit.

56:52Yeah. I think that there's some people that are saying that that's what he's doing. But, yeah, he's taking pictures with Commander's hats on. He's very good friends with Jaden Daniels still. So I don't know. I don't know. So there's like every red flag possible going up right now. Yeah. But he might still be really good. And what did he say? It's like, I'm going to put my belt to their ass. Or they're running from the belt. They're running from the belt. He said the 49ers are running from the belt right now.

57:15PFT Commenter:Okay. Yeah, I saw that. I was very confused. Any more developments with the Bears Stadium? Yeah. We're doing Indiana as of right now. But still, maybe not. It's such a fucking mess. Yeah. It was so perfect. on Friday it came out that the Bears board of directors voted to go forward with the Indiana site and then almost instantly after that there was people commenting being like but there's still a chance Arlington Heights because they could call a special meeting it's just so fucking stupid man and it's gonna be it will suck that they like I think in 20 years if they're in Indiana will anyone be like oh man this is crazy no but it will suck in the moment Like, it's going to suck that they're doing this.

58:03And then, yeah, Indiana will have two NFL teams. Yep. New York will have one NFL team. Texas will have two NFL teams. California will have two NFL stadiums. Kind of crazy that Indiana would be in that short list that has two. And then when the commanders did this and they moved to Maryland, they renamed the city for them. Yeah. Are they going to rename the city for the Bears? I don't think so. They should. That should be part of the demand. It's like, you're now entering the Bear Den.

58:30PFT Commenter:I will say that there's been some slander towards Northwest Indiana residents, which I think is unfair because, first of all, they didn't ask for this. But, I mean, they live like 30 minutes from Chicago. They were rooting for the Bears. And I would like to say there's been some very nice people. For instance, Zach, you should actually go maybe do a research project. There's a nice strip club called The Landing Strip that has already welcomed Bears fans. Oh, that's nice. That's big of them. Yeah. That's unity. You should check out Dream Girls nearby, too. I could put those in the shortlist. I think knockouts.

59:02The thing is just a little aggressive.

59:03PFT Commenter:The thing is, it also was crazy because we had the World Cup friendly at Soldier Field on Saturday, and Soldier Field looked incredible. And again, I think the blame pie for this is so vast because it all starts. I've seen a lot of people have been like, why do the Bears even need to move a stadium? Well, one, they don't own it. They want to own a stadium. And two, it's the NFL that's pressuring them. The NFL wants the Bears to have their own stadium so that all the prices go up. for everyone's franchise. That's where the pressure is starting from. Kevin Warren was brought in to do this job. Correct.

59:37Like this is what Kevin Warren wants to maximize the value of the Bears for the Bears ownership group. That is his only job. And in terms of like. His job is not to make sure you have fun at games. Correct. His job is not to make sure that free agents will want to sign with the Bears. His job is to do one thing. That's to get the most money in the pockets of his bosses. And if he does, if he gets a sweetheart package from Indiana, that he's going to take that because at the end of the day, it's about the plus minus that he can bring to the ownership group based on the new stadium and the retail around it compared to whatever Arlington Heights is offering.

1:00:13And if it's not close, they're going to go to Indiana. Right.

1:00:15PFT Commenter:I still think they're going to end up with Arlington Heights. It still doesn't make sense. They bought a fucking parcel of land that is enormous for$200 million. That's what I was saying also on Friday. If the Bears go to Indiana, they should make them rebuild the horse racing track, Arlington Park, which was great. Because that's bullshit that we lost that and then nothing is being used in that land. What would happen to Soldier Field when the Bears leave? I don't know. I think, I don't know. The Fire are getting a new stadium. I think the White Sox are getting a new stadium. I don't know. Probably nothing.

1:00:54PFT Commenter:Yeah. Like, it would probably just sit there for concerts and stuff. it is weird that's going to indiana i know it's fucking stupid the whole thing is stupid just stay uh part of me thinks that they might just they might just this is just going to be like they're going to put their hands up and be like you know what we'll try again and when our lease is up at soldier field in like i think it's six years seven years and like we'll just run this out i do i i love the idea though of indiana just going all in on sports we're going to be the sports state yeah any any team that wants to build we will have you should go after the bangles go after the bangles yeah go after the bangles and they'll be like the eastern indiana bangles um you could go after let's see the chiefs i don't know is the ink dried on chiefs are moving states yeah why not come at the last minute indiana yeah the titans maybe get the grizzlies to to build their new stadium they should you're right they should just southern indiana you're right they should rename that they should wait until the bears start building and then we should just illinois should just annex indiana do they have i you know what i was actually thinking about this the other day in terms of the upper peninsula of michigan does wisconsin and michigan like does does the state of michigan have active duty national guard members on that border stop because what's to stop wisconsin from just taking it like just sending troops in overnight like they they should think about doing that yeah if if detroit if if uh michigan's not going to defend the upper peninsula yeah go take it go take it go take it right hank yeah yeah listen i'm i i'm always in favor of good little land grab yeah back and forth just take hammond yeah real quick um okay oh did anything happen in golf megacorp back who jt pauston he's a megacorp yeah who's back buddy I love that Megacor And Nelly Korda US Open champ Shout out Nelly I should also mention There's tragic passing of Stacey King today There's So people don't know He's the color commentary Guy for the Bulls He's been doing it for 20-ish years I think 20 years He's one of those guys Every city has this Where you have someone on the hometown broadcast where they are uh they make you want to watch the game even if the product is bad and that was stacy king he was the guy who was he knew ball but he also made it entertaining you know the the too big too strong too fast too good derrick rose the heart hustle and muscle joe kim noah even recently the little boozy vert for uh modest like he had the nicknames he had uh And it's like the Dickie V's and the Chris Berman, how we talk about these guys.

1:03:48PFT Commenter:They make sports more fun, and they welcome people in. And that was Stacey King. He also was just a great guy. He would stay at the games and stand there for like 45 minutes to an hour to take pictures with fans after every single game. Like literally every game. He'd be like, if you want to take a picture with me, come down courtside after the game. I'll be here, and I'll make sure I take care of the fans. I yeah it's weird whenever like a celebrity Passes away you You don't really feel anything but this one was Like a sucker punch was like he was Tweeting yesterday about the NBA finals I don't know What happened but I feel awful for his family I feel awful for everyone who worked with him And it will be very weird to have bulls Broadcast without Stacey King involved Because he was that type of guy and So yeah really really sad Okay should we do Who's back of the week okay who's Back of the week is brought to you by twisted tea summers here and twisted tea is coming in clutch to turn our day drinking up a notch their new summer party pack has a brand new twisted lemonade made with real lemons and five percent alcohol it's got that refrigerant refreshing taste with a little kick no carbonation goes down smooth whether it's hitting the course for a round pre-gaming a ball game or inviting the guys over some backyard grilling the new twisted tea summer party pack is perfect to keep the good times rolling grab a refreshing twisted tea today twisted tea we love twisty it's a summer twisted tea go get it today twisted lemonade made with real lemons five percent alcohol grab a refreshing twisted tea today all right who's back of the week henry uh i had megacorp nelly corda love at msg which we already talked about did you see the fan who's saying jalen brunson's name 100 ,000 times on stream?

1:05:28Yeah.

1:05:28PFT Commenter:That's crazy. That's insane. Mm-hmm. That's all I have. How long has he been going? I don't know, but that's... He's still doing it right now? Yeah, I think so. Is he just going to... Like, after he gets to 100 ,000, he's going to be like, all right, thanks for tuning in. Yeah, pretty much. That rocks. Good. Monaco. Monaco. Monaco's going viral. Monaco's back. Monaco's going viral. F1 was in Monaco. Yep. The worst race they have. By far. But the city itself is going viral. People are talking about how rich it is. It's basically like a Florida-Nashville on steroids for rich people. Wait. Monaco is like Florida.

1:06:11Athletes want to go to Florida or Nashville because of high state income taxes. It's like an entire country. Monaco just has no taxes. I might be a company. I probably need to work a little bit longer. I'll have an NFL game there soon enough. I would... Monaco sounds awesome. Monaco's so small. How small? It's pretty small.

1:06:32PFT Commenter:It's like the size of a small city. Tiny. The whole Monaco is just one tiny little city. And they... So it's basically just like... It's the rich people just figure out a place to just... To hunt poor people, yeah. They show up and it's like the most dangerous game. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's one of those places that you go and the size of the yachts that are parked in the harbor, you think that they're huge. and then you see that actually some of those yachts are just like the small yacht that then goes out and travels to the bigger yacht it's like the emotional support yacht that a billionaire has and then that's the one that you bring ashore so you can then drive your car off that yacht yeah everyone was in monaco a lot of parties a lot of a lot of events i don't think anyone

1:07:17i mean we we got an f1 a little bit on this on this podcast but monaco is a bad race

1:07:23PFT Commenter:all the races are not interesting to watch like no one that's in Monaco watched the race no it's a party yeah Monaco's definitely a bad sports town great party town but Hank what about growing the game F1 I mean F1 that's their mecca I like growing the game when they do more US events like F1 doing US events is F1 fans versions of NFL going to Europe. They're like, this is bullshit. Right, but you like it because it's growing the game in the States. I got you. And it grew the game so hard that it worked on you that you're a lifelong fan. No. So you're proving that what we've been complaining about we're actually right.

1:08:10Can you name two drivers? Lewis Hamilton. George.

1:08:17PFT Commenter:You're about to say St. Pierre, but it's not. Nope, nope, nope. The twin Thomases. Oh, Max Rousseff. Yeah, there we go. There you go. Charles Leclerc. Yeah. Yeah. That was the last one minute. Yeah. Alex Albin. What the fuck is George? George Russell. Georgie boy. That's what we call him. Yeah. The Monaco race makes no sense. There's no overtaking. They just, whoever gets the fastest qualifying time, you've won the race. As long as you don't crash. I did like the Indy 500, though. The Indy 500 rocked. Yeah. Okay. Good who's back. Nice who's back, Andy. My who's back of the week is soccer. Yeah.

1:08:59World Cup this week. Yeah, I was going to do that, but then I wrote it down. I was like, I can't even pretend to care. Yeah, that's okay. You don't have to pretend to care. P.T.'s got it. But you might come down with a World Cup fever. The first half was awesome against Germany. It was one of those goals where it's like you watch that goal, and you're like, oh, fuck, yeah. It got me hard. I got an erection when he hit that volley. It was the coolest goal. Maybe the best goal since 2014 in the World Cup. Wait, but this isn't the World Cup. No, it's not. It was the best U.S. men's national team goal.

1:09:31Also, a lot of pitch talk. A lot of pitch talk.

1:09:35PFT Commenter:All right, well, that was going to be my respect, but this is related to... Harry Kane's complaining, yeah. Everyone in Europe is complaining. They don't like the heat. They don't like... Shut the fuck up. It's mandatory hydration. Be lucky you're here. Listen, I get England, Scotland. you guys got sent down to Florida I understand that that's probably not a good combination for your fair skin deal with it Florida's not that bad this time of year Florida's not great no definitely not but I also don't care they complain this happens in Europe every single year because they don't have air conditioning there's a day where it's like 80 degrees and they're like every old person died you can't handle it what's the opening ceremony Thursday is the first game and then U.S.

1:10:18plays on Friday night against Paraguay. And this, we got a secret little U.S. men's national team group chat at Barstool Sports. For the people, no. Why not? For the people who care about the team, they're only involved. I want the U.S. to do well. This would be awesome if the U.S. did well. And I want us to win. They let me know about some news that happened over the weekend in Paraguay. So in their friendly, their best player, I hate that this happened, but he got injured. Oh, no. So he's probably not going to play against the United States. And it sucks because you want to beat teams when they're the best.

1:10:51Listen. And this guy's hurt. And I'm just so mad about it. I wish he was playing. I want to win this thing bad. Yeah.

1:10:56PFT Commenter:Because if you let us win soccer, it's over. You can't tell us not. It's over for the world. Don't let us win this fucking tournament. Or any World Cup, for that matter. Can't tell us shit if we win the World Cup. We're not going to win the World Cup. We're the cockiest motherfuckers ever. We won't win, but we should. I'm excited now. I've seen enough in that first half against Germany. We look good. And Germany's like, you know, top five team in the world. Oh, I'm definitely excited. I mean, the World Cup rocks. We lost. Yeah, we lost. Yeah, we lost. But in the first half is when we. It's a friendly, Hank.

1:11:25It's a friendly. It's a send-off match. And the goal. It's really the goal. The goal was awesome. The goal is a Jedi round. The name Jedi is.

1:11:31PFT Commenter:But if you can't get excited for the World Cup, you got to dump in your pants. Yeah. Yeah. Call me Dumpy McD. Okay, I will. I will. You got to dump in your pants. Dumpy McD. I get upset about U.S. soccer not being told every year that this is the year. U.S. soccer aside, the World Cup is an awesome, awesome event. I'm going to watch as much World Cup as I possibly can. I'm not telling you that the U.S. is going to win the World Cup because we're not. But we should compete in our group to win. We should get out, and then we should win. If we win two games, here's all I want. I want there to be two mornings where I wake up feeling nervous and excited that it's all on the line for U.S.

1:12:07soccer. So two elimination games. That's all I want. If I wake up in those mornings and the only thing I'm worried about is what's going to happen in the U.S. soccer game that day, I will consider that a win for this World Cup. We should play in two elimination games.

1:12:21PFT Commenter:My other... Plus 140 to win Group D. We should win that for Group D. The Socceroos from Australia. My other part of the World Cup weekend, because you get all these teams coming stateside and all this. We're going to get ramped up. what do you guys think that Messi's going to do with the signed Marcel Reed jersey he got? He's probably pumped for that. Are you kidding me? It's got to be the largest discrepancy in terms of talent, notoriety, accomplishments, signed jersey to another guy. Yeah. No offense to Marcel Reed. He did have some electric games last year, but you're talking about the goat in one sport and Marcel Reed.

1:13:04Yeah, so getting to see the different teams staying in the United States and the places that they're at, and just imagining the scenarios that the Argentinian national team is finding themselves in in the Kansas City area is very funny to me. Or like, Brazil is just staying out in New Jersey somewhere.

1:13:21PFT Commenter:If you're Texas A &M, I think you have to give Messi the dog. You have to give him revelry. That would be a comparable thing. Like, here's a dog, not here's a jersey. That would be nice. Yeah, very weird. But yeah, the Europeans complaining. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. Harry Kane's upset because he says too hot in Florida. No, he said he said the pitch wasn't in great condition. Wasn't that not even a World Cup site? It was him and a friendly site. Yeah. And New Zealand. They got together afterwards and they were like, yeah, we want to stand as one and complain about the pitch together and just just wine.

1:13:54So shut up, dude. Yeah, shut up.

1:13:56PFT Commenter:It's not even a fucking it's not even a site where you're gonna have to play a real game. Yeah. Harry Kane. Listen friendly. How much of the pitch do you need to see, Harry? You only stay inside the six-yard line. The pitch talk is just cope. That's all they're doing. Oh, yeah, because they're going after your team. That's all it is. They're just scared. Yeah. We're just soft. They're grown men, and we're talking about heat. What are we doing? Yeah. All right, my other who's back was Caitlin Clark, because now people are saying she's washed. There's been so much Caitlin Clark discourse this year.

1:14:22So much. It's crazy. I can't even keep up with it anymore. Is she a problem? Is she a coach killer?

1:14:28PFT Commenter:They're saying that her new coach is not playing to her strengths. And I think she's been in a shooting slump, but that happens. But yeah, it's nuts. Also, people being like, oh, they're not talking about it the same way. I mean, the NBA finals are still going on. I would imagine. And we have the World Cup. WNBA does shine when other sports aren't happening. Where is the fever? Are they in the playoffs? The fever are... Oh, I didn't know. Wait. Are they the eighth seed right now? The playoffs started today. The Portland Fire? Is that a team? Name five WNBA teams. Portland Fire, Las Vegas Aces, Los Angeles Sparks, Los Angeles Mystics, the Lynx, the Sun, the Chicago Sky.

1:15:12PFT Commenter:I just did something so stupid. Just so everyone knows. So when Hank said, name five teams, Max covered up our computer screen back here. So that we couldn't see. Yeah. Oh no, Max. stupid, stupid. Portland Fire I didn't know existed, but good for them. Was that new? That's got to be new, right? Dallas Wings, Atlanta Dream, we could go on and on. New York Liberty, the Golden State Valkyries, Toronto Tempo, is that a new one? They sound new. They look new. So Dallas Wings, that's the discourse. I told you that Pagy Buckets would be better than Kaitlyn Clark when she got drafted. I think there's a lot of stuff that Kaitlyn Clark has had to deal with that I think some of it's outside of her control, But now, like, you're starting to see the edits of Caitlin Clark, like, yelling at coaches.

1:16:02Yeah, it's mean. Becoming a problem. Meantime.

1:16:04PFT Commenter:It's getting mean out there. Yep, she's getting the other side of the internet right now. It's not pretty. It's getting mean. Yeah, so good for... Well, actually, no. Not good for anyone. I don't even know. Yeah, no. I don't think it's healthy for anybody to think about this. No. Oh, also, who's back? Golden Tempo won the Belmont. Yep. Really sucks. Really sucks that we didn't get a chance at a Triple Crown. Good horse. Good horse. Mike Francesca approves. Should we - Haas. Yeah. Should we be blaming the horse, though, for not competing for the Triple Crown? Yeah, soft. Like load management? Yeah.

1:16:38PFT Commenter:He's come to horse racing now, and it's sad. Adam Silver needs to get involved. Yeah. You got to run at least 75 % of the three horse Triple Crown. Yeah, to be eligible for Horse of the Year? Yeah. Now, how did this horse do in terms of expected horse lengths versus actual horse lengths? Very, very nicely. Okay, so it did actually win, too. Yeah. Okay. Zach finishes off. Then we'll get to Brian Windhorse. My Who's Back of the Week this week, gentlemen, is going to be Xbox, because we had the 2026 Xbox Showcase today. Anybody seen Eclipse? No. Pretty exciting stuff. Look, we got new Spyro. We got new Gears of War.

1:17:16We got new, obviously, they called the Modern Warfare 4, and then also, maybe we get a new Halo. What a launch event today. A lot of games on the horizon. Super excited to play them. playing by yourself, playing with your friends. Call a friend. Get him in your party. It's that time, boys.

1:17:31PFT Commenter:Are they done making PS5s? No. No, there's a lot of shortages right now because all these data farms are taking all the RAM. Ah, okay. Now, what about the - Data centers are ruining fun. What about the new Call of Duty? Where is that located? Like, where are the maps? A lot of it's going to be in Korea. Oh, okay. Now, what are people saying about that? Are they excited? Oh, yeah. I see a lot of good talking points online. It's a lot more colorful, not as gray. People are pretty pumped. We're also getting, they're doing a 25th anniversary launch console. We're getting back to the translucent plastics.

1:18:01Do you guys remember any of that from the early consoles? With like the different colors you could see through, see all the hardware on the inside. Super exciting. And LC4s. Apple computers used to have that too. Yeah, so they're bringing it back. Okay. Which is just like, it's eye porn. They should think about doing Call of Duty, but you're on the border of the Michigan Upper Peninsula. And you're trying to take it over as Wisconsin. I love that. I would play that. I love that. Calling it a drone strike on Mackinac Island? that fucking rock i love that drone strikes terrifying but effective battle use i guess yeah okay good who's back boys uh let's get to brian windhorse we'll get to brian windhorse in a second he's brought to you by our great friends over at better help for some summer is their favorite season travel picks up kids are out of school adventure is the focus but for others juggling it all can be tough can lead to overwhelm and counting down the minutes until the kids are back in school.

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1:20:29PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very, very special guest. It is our guy, Brian Windhorst. You can see him on ESPN. You can listen to the Hoop Collective. He's got a live show coming up on Tuesday night. Gotham Comedy Club in New York City there's still a couple tickets left go buy it and see the Hoop Collective live Wendy you're the absolute best but I have one hard question for you ready for it wow god you were just buttering me up alright go ahead you're the one who found Victor Wembenyama yes he had literally

1:21:04Brian Windhorst:no one had heard of him

1:21:07PFT Commenter:I do love when your co-hosts on Hoop Collective bust your balls about that but you know Wembenyama very well. At least you covered him. Are the Spurs screwed? Is Wemby screwed? Because this has been a bad first two games in the NBA Finals for him.

1:21:24Brian Windhorst:His stats are okay. He had a pretty good second half in Game 2. Most of it was he started making jumpers. But he doesn't have the same energy level, I don't think, as he had in the conference Finals. Here's what I'm going to say. um i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm just gonna before you accuse me of of hedging i'm gonna announce that i'm hedging okay okay does that i don't know if that does anything for you but i'm gonna announce this as a hedge the knicks look very i was with the knicks at their practice today in their media session i watched some of their practice they look very focused there is no you definitely can tell i don't know if it's brunson who set the tone or if it's the all the villanova guys but you can tell who's ever in their face about, you know, jobs not done, et cetera, it's getting through because I don't pick up a hint of drop off at all.

1:22:21Brian Windhorst:I'm seeing the, I'm seeing a very, very focused team. Okay. Now here's the other side of the fence. I don't think this series is over and I'm seeing a lot of my colleagues and, and, and, you know, saying that this series isn't going back to San Antonio. We would never say something like that. And I just don't think it's over. Like, you know, if the Knicks play another great game on Monday night and they go 3-0, obviously no one's coming back from that. But I think the Spurs are still alive. It is a two games, both games, but the Spurs had the lead with less than two minutes to go and they lost them.

1:23:01Brian Windhorst:And, you know, I have seen playoff series in this situation where the team goes back home and the home team is like, we've broken you and we're going to win by 30 now. But I have seen the opposite. And so all I will say is I see no signs of the Knicks being overconfident, but I am not ready to declare that this is put to bed yet. So that's my viewpoint. Sorry if it's not more hot takey. How much of the blame would you assign to Mitch Johnson for the first two losses? yeah um he he's touching buttons that aren't really working and um he's he's also playing a key player who's playing through an injury de 'aron fox playing through an injury and um he's your franchise point guard he's making a max contract and you know because i know there's a lot of like well you know you got to play dylan harper more they used a three guard rotation throughout the year, they won 62 games and got to the finals.

1:24:06Brian Windhorst:So it's very hard to tell a young coach, sit your point guard down. Sit him down. And then he played great in game two. But he's doing some rotations and touching some buttons that aren't really working. Whereas Mike Brown, everybody he puts on the court, was like playing awesome. Like Landry Shamitz having the best two weeks of his career right now. This guy's a minimum player.

1:24:35PFT Commenter:Yeah. He's been incredible. Was there any – so after game two and the situation where Wemby throws it off Steph Castle's back, I said in the moment, and we just taped some of our show, but that was a moment to me that Mitch Johnson should have called the time out before that even happened. And I know, like, you want a transition bucket. You can maybe get one easy. but it's like hey the worst that happens you go to overtime you call timeout you get your best play you hunt your best matchup you're a young team get everyone settled like hey guys this is a moment we got to just you know find our best but instead you see what happens and it's you know there's a miscommunication and then a quick foul of Jalen Brunson that that was also the unfortunate part that Wemby just immediately fouled him um in a tie game it just kind of all fell apart there

1:25:24Brian Windhorst:I was in shock that when that play went down, I had a hard time processing it in real time that not only did they turn it over, but they turned it over with a, you know, just boneheaded play and then Victor immediately fouled. I mean, so problem is that I think Mitch kind of liked the lineup that he had on the court. Yeah. And, you know, Kat, you're right. Of course you're right. You know, there's a strong case to be made with a young team like that in a situation where they've been shaky. You call timeout, you get your personnel in, you set up your play. You're absolutely correct. But I don't think it's like a catastrophic decision.

1:26:07Brian Windhorst:Right, right. You know, it looks bad, obviously. But, you know, I will listen to philosophies of coaches who talk about being able to start on a break. And, you know, the Spurs might even have data. I know the Spurs really like it, the offense that they can run when Wembenyama's trailing. I mean, it's one of the things they want their guys to go out and run after Wembenyama rebound, and they go, and they have offensive triggers that they can go into, and then they can downshift and toss to Wembenyama when he's trailing. And there's a whole bunch of highlights that you've seen this year where Wembenyama will hit a trail three or drive, just go coast to coast, you know, give and go it and go coast to coast and go down and slam.

1:26:53Brian Windhorst:In fact, the shot in game one of the West finals when he hit that 30 footer. Yeah, that was a similar type play where they ran off of a miss. When Minyama is trailing the play and he hits, he walks into the three.

1:27:08PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. It's a good point. It's a good point that you're right. Like there's that, that is an offense and that's kind of how they got back in the game to, you know, running transition and, and not because the Knicks are really good defensively. I think that's the part of this series that is kind of getting underrated is that they're just, they're able to, to defend everything the Spurs kind of thrown at them. And Kat has been just phenomenal in that respect.

1:27:30Brian Windhorst:Well, so looking at the game, so Kat was, was dominating, right? It was dominating the game. There was actually a pretty interesting moment in the, in the press conference today. Kat was up there. And so the NBA every year they have, they bring in, you know, three or four rookies, guys who were at the end of their rookie season. Actually in, in San Antonio was draft picks. Let's see there. Caleb Wilson was there and Kingston Flemings, but Derek Queen was there. But they brought in Jeremiah Fears today from the Pelicans. And they do this thing where they have them ask questions in the press conference.

1:28:08Brian Windhorst:And sometimes it's, you know, kind of hokey and, you know, whatever. But over the years, sometimes there's the players who are on the podium will kind of give a good answer, you know. And that happened today. Fears asked Carl Towns kind of a basic question, which was like, you know, how did you become the best shooting big man, you know, in the NBA? And Carl Towns gave kind of like a beat your chest answer. he was like you know and i'm i'm uh summarizing it please don't take this exact word for word but he was something like um uh you know a lot of people when i was younger told me that i shouldn't play this way i shouldn't shoot threes and none of those people are around now and some of them are going to be around and and think that they're congratulating me but they weren't really a part of this it was kind of like you know wow like you know take that critics right you know only only he knows who he was talking about, you know, but I think he was thinking about a couple of people.

1:29:09Brian Windhorst:And I was just like, wow, like Carl, like, you know, he's, he's screaming, you know, whatever. I can't remember what he yelled when he was going off the court. They can't F and guard me or whatever he said. And I was like, wow, Carl Towns is like, you know, as, as LeBron used to say, when a player was on a hot streak on the court, LeBron White would yell from the bench um he feel himself and uh you know carl towns was feeling himself um but i'm going to tell you that that game got sideways that game too got sideways when towns got two fouls called on him in like 30 seconds yeah um both by the same official and and one of the calls was shaky maybe the knicks fans would argue both the calls were shaky towns goes out of the game in that spot and he was never quite the same when you know he ruined his rhythm and that's when when banyama started making shots now he was now you could argue he was making jumpers um and that like it wouldn't matter whether towns is out there or not he just started getting hot from the outside but like you can go back and look when towns goes out of the game with those two fouls in the in the like late third early fourth something like that The whole game changed.

1:30:20Brian Windhorst:And so Towns is playing amazing. But I'm going to tell you what really made a difference, I feel, was the fact – and this sounds like such, you know, bottom level baseline analysis to just say this. The Spurs couldn't get any freaking rebounds. Yeah. And I think three different times in the second half of game two, I think three different times the Knicks got an offensive rebound and hit a three. Yeah. I mean, that is just back-breaking. And in a one-point game, and that's why, like, today, like, the Spurs play. After game one, the Spurs players were saying, we're not worried. We're going to play our game.

1:31:03Brian Windhorst:We just have to play normal, and we're going to be fine. Today, they were saying, we're playing better, and we're not getting anything out of it. And I know it because they're getting stops, and they're giving up three-pointers. And I just think of like Pat Riley, you know, the older I get, the more I see, the more I appreciate what David Stern and Pat Riley and Phil Jackson would say. Pat Riley has this statement. It's a, it's a, again, it's a elementary evaluation of basketball, no rebounds, no rings. If the Spurs just get some rebounds, they win that game. Yeah. Yeah. And so all of those things are, are contributing here.

1:31:41Yeah. I heard a rumor, Wendy, maybe you can confirm or deny you are the Wimby Whisperer, that Victor Wimby-Diam is working on a sky hook, and he hasn't unveiled it yet. Is that true? I haven't seen that. Why would he need it?

1:31:58PFT Commenter:It'd be unblockable. Well, he's unblockable now. He does need some little post moves. It does feel like this is a part of the – and this is not a knock on him because, again, he's in the NBA Finals. He's 22 years old. you can see that there is part of as much as we want him to be a finished product there is parts of his game where it's like once this gets better then you're talking about a different level

1:32:20Brian Windhorst:PFT you could be right I haven't seen it wouldn't it be amazing though he's not letting anybody see it yet it's like the Manhattan Project you think like in the movie about Wembenyama's career like you know in 10 years that like he's with the monks and he's had a hard day with the monks and he goes out back of the monastery, I don't know what you call it in China, and he sees this monk or this old Chinese guy shooting skyhooks.

1:32:55PFT Commenter:Can't you just see the framing? I'm going to write it differently. I'm going to have it be that you went when you first met him he was, you know, you were just, let's just say you're standing you're doing an interview in his house and his mom makes you something and then you you roll up a paper towel and you go windy and do a sky hook and he says did you just say wendy or

1:33:18Brian Windhorst:windy and then he learns by the way the sky is becoming a major problem at espn like everybody and their brother is stumbling over it like i can give you a list in the last 10 days guys all the time yeah it's true i thought we were having the the guy from the spurs on part of my take today The first week that I met Victor, I ended up in a car with him. We were riding to an Italian restaurant. He loves, very French of him, he loves truffles. And there's this one Italian restaurant really close to where he was living at the time where you could get truffled pizza and truffled pasta. And I don't know if there was some truffle in season.

1:33:59Brian Windhorst:He's like, we got to go there. And his agent was driving and I was sitting in the back. Like, we're in a Range Rover, okay? And I felt so bad for Victor because you should have seen, even sitting in a Range Rover, like what he had to do to get his legs in that car. Yeah. You know? And, I mean, obviously, I'd been in cars with very tall people before, but this was an extreme situation.

1:34:24PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:34:25Brian Windhorst:And I remember saying, Victor, when you get to the U.S., you know, you've got to discover, you know, an Escalade. Yeah. a navigator like you know we can do i know i know the range over the beautiful car but i'm like we we have the power we have the ability to get you with your legs out a little bit more buddy i mean you know because he had barely been to the united states yeah we do cars big all right so i got a

1:34:50PFT Commenter:question about wendy because you know him a little bit um so when he says something like you know i'm not worried at all or I'm embracing this moment down 0-2. Is that sincere, Wemby, or is it he is so smart and studied the game for so long that he almost knows that's what you're supposed to say if you're going to be a Kobe, a LeBron, an MJ, one of these killers? Because I can't fully understand which one is which. I think it's both.

1:35:20Brian Windhorst:I think he knows what he's supposed to say, but I also think he's pretty honest. uh and this is one of the things about victor the more people are going to see he's pretty honest i mean he says pretty borderline arrogant to full-blown arrogant stuff in press conferences all the time i mean when he first came to the u.s he gives his first press conference and i'm talking about when he played that game um uh when he was you know in his sort of gap year when he was waiting to get drafted and he played against scute henderson with uh the g league at night he came over with his team and they played in Vegas.

1:35:54Brian Windhorst:Remember that? And they're like in the lead up to the first game. And he's like, yeah, Scoot Henderson would have been the number one pick but unfortunately he was born the same year as me. And like he does he says stuff like that where you don't necessarily it doesn't come off as smack talk and you think about it and you're like, damn, he just really said some trash. So he's not afraid to be like super honest. So I take what he says mostly for the truth. so I do think he feels that way and I do think he says I should be the MVP all these things he says how he feels so I'm going to take it at face value can we switch gears real quick and talk a little about Giannis because I saw that you had some comments about Giannis and the rumor out there that maybe the Celtics might be interested in him and you don't think that that's the case right now correct?

1:36:47Brian Windhorst:this is the same thing with LeBron I see a lot of people jumping to step four. Okay. And I get it. Like, that's what's fun about being a fan. Like, I'm not saying don't do it, but like people are jumping to like LeBron taking the minimum from somebody. And I'm like, okay, I guess it's under the realm of possibility LeBron could do it. But like steps one, two, and three have to happen. And when it comes to, you know, the idea that the Celtics would be interested in Giannis, before there's any Giannis Boston conversation you got to know that Giannis wants to re-sign with the Celtics he's got one year on his contract you are not paying like let's forget about the concept of whether the Celtics would be better if they traded Jalen Brown for Giannis let's let's put that debate aside Giannis has to say I want to be a Celtic because he's got one year on his contract jalen brown's under contract for like three more years you're not going to take a player who's won you a championship was under contract three more years and trade him plus potentially other stuff for a player who was not committed so first thing first does yannis want to be with your team okay if that's a yes then you proceed on to the idea of like well you know but by the way i'm not zooming past that a team is ready every team in the league is ready to sign the honest to a four-year 280 million dollar extension probably there are a lot of them if he gets traded probably the team that trades for him is prepared to do that but this guy's been really injured a lot in the last three years and he's in his 30s um i would probably do it but i'm just saying like I'm not 100 % certain that the Celtics feel that way.

1:38:42If we're, gun to your head, gun to your head, so you have to answer this question. Yeah. Where's he playing next year?

1:38:48Brian Windhorst:I think Miami is a strong contender to trade for him at this moment. I think there are some other teams that can and will make compelling offers leading up to the draft. But I think Giannis, that's a place where I think Giannis wants to play. And I think that's a place where they would sign him. So they satisfy, you know, and they want to trade for him. Like these are three check marks that I can put in the Miami ledger. Okay. I think there's some other teams that would like to get there to that point. I don't think Miami can make the best offer, you know, and, you know, the people in the folks, some of the folks in Miami think that they can make the best offer.

1:39:32Brian Windhorst:You know, that's a debate. And nobody will know all the offers except for the people in the Bucks front office but i'll say this look at the jimmy haslam owns the cleveland browns okay i don't know anything about the player i don't know i don't know anything about football i don't know anything about the player that he just traded for with miles garrett but i know that they traded for draft compensation and a player who can help them immediately who's under contract it would seem to me that he would have the same standard for a Giannis trade. And it's not clean because he's only a part owner. You have the general manager, you have what Giannis potentially would want.

1:40:14Brian Windhorst:You have the other owner, Wes Edens, who technically has the governorship right now. But that trade that he made with Miles Garrett, you think about this, they got nine years out of him okay the team is no longer a contender with him okay he is still in his prime they flip him for a guy who is younger under control and significant draft compensation right Giannis is in his 30s he's I think he and Myles Garrett there may be like almost the same age they may be off by a year off right um that is I think the kind of return that he would want the same type of package. So, and I think the fact that Jimmy Haslam made that trade with the Browns kind of gives you an idea of what he thinks about where a franchise could be.

1:41:07Brian Windhorst:Because I don't think the Browns are contenders next year. This I do know because I'm a Browns fan. And I don't think the Bucs are contenders next year. Yeah. And so. Trim to the Niners for Brock Purdy. I don't know enough about, I don't, that may be a great comparison. I don't know enough about. But you could be joking. It goes over my head.

1:41:26PFT Commenter:Who's Deshaun Watson in this? Would this be like the Bucs signing Terry Rozier?

1:41:33Brian Windhorst:Hey, I am being told that Deshaun Watson is ready for a comeback.

1:41:38PFT Commenter:You have two quarterbacks. Be careful with the phrase. You have two quarterbacks. Todd Munkin said, you've got to guess which two. But you have two. He said that. Wait, you said something there, though, that was interesting. So you don't think LeBron is going to sign a vet minimum with Cleveland?

1:41:55Brian Windhorst:I mean, it's not impossible, but the idea that that is where he's at right now, you know, it could happen. I still have not heard definitively LeBron's playing next year. Now, is he probably going to play? Like if you said to me you have to make a projection right now, I would say I think he's going to play. But like people have got him in a minimum with the Cavs and starting opening night. And I'm not even sure he's playing. Okay. Let's say he decides to play. Fine. Now, is he going to sign with the Lakers? All right. Can they work out a deal? Can the Lakers work out a deal where they retain LeBron, but they also get him into a salary that is, you know, because the thing about LeBron is the Lakers to some extent will be bidding against themselves.

1:42:42Brian Windhorst:Right. Because the teams that have salary cap space, you know, Chicago, Brooklyn, you know, Detroit, I guess Detroit, but it doesn't make sense for those teams. Right. So if the Lakers are like bidding like way up 25, 30 million, they are in fact bidding against themselves. I don't think anybody, they're not like trying to be a competing offer. At the same time, LeBron was an all-NBA player this year. And he's also an all-time legend. And Jerry Buss set the standard for the Lakers that you treat your legendary players well so that you can get more legendary players. This is a cornerstone of the Lakers' business operations.

1:43:30Brian Windhorst:And Jeannie Buss has picked that up. So do you really want LeBron to walk out the door disgruntled because you're trying to get the best deal and not bid against yourself. Because let's say you do let him walk. What's your plan in free agency? Like there isn't, you know, LeBron 2010 isn't there. You know, you're not trading out LeBron 2026 for LeBron 2010.

1:43:56PFT Commenter:Right.

1:43:57Brian Windhorst:Like, you know, so I believe that LeBron and the Lakers can probably come to terms on an agreement that will help them, that will get them both in a good place. but it could get a little bit rocky because the Lakers would essentially probably be bidding against themselves. Okay. Let's say you get past that. Let's say you get LeBron's going to play. Okay. Check that box. And you get to the point where LeBron and the Lakers can't come to terms. And I'm not ready. I'm not ready for that yet. I am not ready to say that that was going to happen. I still think that that is most likely 51 % or whatever, not guaranteed, but most likely.

1:44:33Brian Windhorst:Okay. Now let's say you've now checked that box and I see people setting land speed records running past that. Like it's no, like it's no big deal. Then you have to say, okay, if LeBron's going to leave in free agency and he's going to take a pay cut, how much pay cut is he willing to, is he willing to take? Cause he's making 55 million and made all NBA. Okay. And you know, the minimum is 3 million and people say, well, the guy's a billionaire. Like what's the difference to him, whether he takes 3 million or 55 million cool if you want to spend 50 million of his dollars you can do that and we may get to to june 10th or you know june 18th and i might be told lebron is in fact willing to play for the minimum and if that's the case then we're going to have a different conversation i have not been told that maybe he's made that decision maybe other reporters maybe Shams knows right now that LeBron's willing to play for the MIM.

1:45:31Brian Windhorst:I haven't heard that. I'm not going to tell you that I know everything. I haven't heard it. But that's a big gap to make. And by the way, in between that is, well, what if he would play for another amount of money, like$15 million, which is what the mid-level exception is, which a team like, you know, a team like Golden State could potentially get there if they do some things, if they make some decisions, they could potentially get there. there's just a ton of places to check mark but if you ask me on the stand can LeBron play for the Cavs for the minimum sure it's not against the law it could happen but there's a lot of things that have to fall into place first.

1:46:12I would play for free for the record what have you heard regarding Anthony Edwards after these playoffs is he still in a good space with Minnesota?

1:46:23Brian Windhorst:I think we have to see what Minnesota wants to do, what they do with their roster. You know, Minnesota was trying to trade for Giannis at the deadline. Okay. So they ended up having a pretty good playoff run. You know, they've won five playoff series the last three years. I don't think, you know, I think, I think Ant misses Cat because the double teams that now come his way, they really annoy him. You can tell it really gets under his skin, the double teams. And those double teams didn't come as frequently when he was playing with a guy who could kill you from the outside like Cat. And so if I were Ant Edwards, I'd be like – because one of the reasons they traded – not one of – the main reason they traded him was to get out of the second apron.

1:47:19Brian Windhorst:it wasn't even so much i mean they saved money absolutely but they had to get out of the second apron and if i was an edwards i'd be like well jalen brunson has carl towns and um they ain't in the second apron you know and you know brunson and towns are thriving together and i mean ants like you know what's going on here um but they want they were trying to get yas at the deadline and last year at the deadline they were trying to get kevin durant so we know that the timberwolves are trying to get superstar players you know they're trying that's what their actions are telling us so they haven't gotten them yet and they've done a good job with the talent they have considering their injuries um so i let's see what happens this summer i you know and has multiple years left on his contract he's not at the place and i have not heard you know i know maybe other people have heard something again i'm not i don't have the mark a corner on all intelligence.

1:48:15Brian Windhorst:I have not heard that Ann is anything but dedicated to the Timberwolves, but I do know the Timberwolves feel a level of pressure to improve their roster. I know this because they tried to trade for Durant and they tried to trade for Giannis and they may be trying to trade for Giannis again. So let's see where the wolves are at the end of the summer.

1:48:33PFT Commenter:Wendy, we didn't have you on before the playoffs. How did the hotel reservations go? What were the, what were the ones you made? Did you get them right? Yeah. So I canceled 10 hotel reservations I had in Boston.

1:48:47Brian Windhorst:I took a photo. I took a photo of my inbox when I canceled all the time. Because, you know, you don't know whether you have to have them for the different dates. Right. You know, like you don't just make one for two weeks. The finals can be all kinds of different dates. They could be the home team. They could be the road team. The finals could move a little bit. And I had to cancel 10 because I had it for the conference finals and finals. Okay. So I had egg all over my face on Boston. I made reservations in Oklahoma City and San Antonio. I made Oklahoma City reservations like in November. And guys, I had such a crazy rate in Oklahoma City.

1:49:27Brian Windhorst:I literally was going to pay like$107. I mean, ESPN pays. I was going to bring down our whole average as a company. I had this hotel for$107 a night. I mean, like if you went and booked it like during the Western Conference Finals, it was like 350. Yeah, look at that. I scored this incredible deal that was, you know, going to make a significant difference on ESPN's bottom line, which they were never going to say anything. But it broke my heart to cancel those great reservations. But I also made reservations in San Antonio. Okay. And I made them like in – there was some moment in January or February where I said, Victor's ready.

1:50:06Brian Windhorst:So those were the three that I had going into the playoffs. Oh, so you didn't have the Knicks. I did not have the Knicks. Wow. And I never made them in Cleveland. Even though I was in Cleveland, my hometown, for the conference finals, you know, I never made them in Cleveland. I'm sorry to say to the Cavs fans. Wait, what kind of rate did you get for the Knicks? Yeah, you got to be – It's bad. It's bad. It's really bad. And, you know, there's the World Cup.

1:50:35PFT Commenter:if there is a game six um you're sleeping on the streets yeah it's it's i mean it's going to be

1:50:44Brian Windhorst:bad we're going to be sleeping in jersey and i think i might have to walk through the tunnel you know what i'll say right now letting they're not letting cars in the barstool new york office

1:50:55PFT Commenter:is on is literally like a stone's throw from madison square garden you can sleep on a couch uh in the let's there's a shower in there too let's negotiate um that one's on the house amazing you know like all you have to do is just be on pick central before you go over to msg just do one live show and then go get over yeah get on over no i made reservations in new

1:51:18Brian Windhorst:york after um after i saw them demolish philly and i mean so i you know i admit i was not on the the knicks i did not see the knicks making this run that um that's the craziest part about this

1:51:30PFT Commenter:I think everyone thought the East was weaker than the West going into the playoffs just in terms of the talent at the top. But there weren't a lot of people who were like, this next team is going to just steamroll everyone. And they have steamrolled everyone. It is one of the greatest runs we've seen in NBA. If they finish this job, especially if they finish it in the next two games, it will be one of the greatest runs we've ever seen in terms of team basketball.

1:51:59Brian Windhorst:Is there a person on this planet who, if 45 days ago, when they were down 2-1 to the Hawks, and I'm talking about Carl Towns' father or Carl Towns himself or the biggest Carl Towns fan in the Northeast. least if i um told them 45 days ago that number one the knicks would not lose for 45 days they would be like oh did they lose the next you know did they that's a forfeit this year like you know do i they out is that why they haven't lost right um that the knicks would not lose for 45 days and the carl towns would dominate victor wimbanyama to such a degree that he was saying they can't do any effing thing with me or whatever he said coming off the court.

1:52:51Brian Windhorst:And he was a strong candidate to be the finals MVP two games into the finals. Was there anybody who would have genuinely believed that that was true? No, I don't think so. You know, like in their heart of hearts, if anybody would have said that. It's just completely unpredictable. Yeah. And what do you think – what's the biggest change that you've noticed with Cat's defense? Because he is playing defense now. Was there a moment where you said, oh, he's figured something out? So first off, this is the thing, and this, again, sounds like elementary analysis. Cat is very big. Yes. And when you have size, it makes a difference.

1:53:36Brian Windhorst:The Thunder and other teams have tried to use smaller players on Wimbanyama. When I watched him play in France when he was 18, that's what the teams by the second time around you know they played a you know round robin in the french league by the second time around the league that's what they had gone to they started playing their strongest big their strongest forward they gave up trying to play centers on them and they just put like the strong power forward on them and that's happened in the nba teams are just trying to put like their strongest you know forward on them whether that's julius Randall or Alex Caruso.

1:54:12Brian Windhorst:And so when the series started, we're like, okay, are they going to go with Ananobi out of the gate? Are they going to try Josh Hart? And here comes Carl Towns from the first possession. Not like, okay, Ananobi has two fouls, Josh Hart's exhausted, Mitchell Robinson, you know, it's hack a Mitch time, get him out of the court. nope he was on the game plan because the knicks coaching staff believed that he could do it because they watched him and they studied him and they said hey listen in the games he's played against cat or against town or against uh victor he's held his own and part of it is he's just got really good size and he can move his feet a little bit i mean he's not going to confuse you for like a defensive player of the year.

1:55:03Brian Windhorst:He's not out there like Gobert, but he can move his feet a little bit. And he's long. And Victor can't get past him. And he's avoided stupid fouls. He got the two fouls real quick, but I'm going to give him a pass on that in game two because I feel like one of them was really questionable. But he's avoided stupid fouls. He's been fine with physical play. And he's just, at times, he's just shoving Victor out of the way. Like there's a rebound coming. And he's like, no, you're not getting it. Yeah. And he won the tip the other night against, against Victor. The Nick, I know. I know. That's crazy.

1:55:40It's like, this is a level of effort that we haven't even thought about seeing from, from Kat over the entire course of his career.

1:55:46Brian Windhorst:And the coaches knew it and believed in him and put him in that position. So, um, and he, he sounds like a different guy. Yeah. His, his entire demeanor is different. and like the confidence that he was talking about today when he was talking to jeremiah fears um he was basically like um all the people that bad mouth me or whatever like they don't get to celebrate this chapter with me he was like talking about like somebody who truly had arrived well i was like i'm like i'm like wow like carl because i mean i've followed carl's career for a long time i remember um you know the day he was drafted i i did an interview with him for espn like a sit-down interview in minneapolis and you know i've you know i've done feature stories on him and stuff and i've covered him at the world cup when he's played for the dominican and he talked about all that stuff like this is a completely different carl towns that i'm seeing on the court and i'm hearing talk about the game i'm very happy for him yeah because he is someone

1:56:50PFT Commenter:who gets maligned for stupid reasons a lot of times. He becomes an internet joke, and it's really cool that he's having these moments and the way he's talking about the game and his mom after the game. It's cool. These are why we watch sports, like these type of redemption arcs.

1:57:06Brian Windhorst:Can I just say, I don't mean to interrupt you, Kat. Yeah. In game one, he was doing this interview. The game had just ended, and he's talking about this real deep philosophical stuff about you know how his mother was looking down on him yeah and like literally he's still sweating he's not he didn't say this two days later like he's like he's like his like his mental space is very aligned too yeah i don't know it's like you know sometimes you hear the phrase put it all together maybe that's what we're seeing here it feels that way um wendy what what type of sunglasses did you wear um i had maui gyms for a couple years and i recently broke them okay in a stupid way i slammed my car door on them so i bought two or three very cheap pairs off of amazon i think

1:57:59PFT Commenter:they're 20 i don't even know the brand you're serving looks in the san antonio heat the hair was going the glasses were going you were you're like i think a lot of guys look at you like damn That guy's, he's got everything. Give my man some shady rays. Yeah. We'll get you some. Yeah.

1:58:17Brian Windhorst:So listen, we, I know you guys have done a lot of shows like out in the, you know, when you go on the road during football season and it's like still hot. It's like, I don't know what kind of stuff you got taken care of, but like the crew that we had in San Antonio was prepared. We had, you couldn't see it. We had air conditioning ducks underneath our seats. No, we don't get that. That were shooting. I mean, it wasn't like cold air, but it was like chilled air up at us. You couldn't even see. I wasn't even sweating. Oh, wow. I was like. Have you gone soft as women? This sounds like, you know, some A-list type stuff here.

1:58:58I know.

1:58:58Brian Windhorst:I got the McAfee treatment. I got the Stephen A treatment. Like, we had like what Chris Berman would have. Like, we got the Berman treatment. Yeah. I never had such effort been done to make sure I was comfortable. And so I was up. I mean, it was hot as hell. And we had great fans there. Out of all the outdoor shows we've ever done during the finals over the years, the fans in San Antonio were the best fans. And there were Knicks fans there too. And the sides were getting along, maybe because it was early in the series. But, man, I was fine. Like, you know, Perk was up there sweating. I don't know.

1:59:35Brian Windhorst:Maybe they didn't hook him up. Maybe he wasn't getting it blowing on his head. I had a cool drink. I could have sat there all day. Perk runs hot. Yeah. What do you think Stephen A has in store for us with the series going back to New York? Is he going to be humble? Is he keeping his head down? Is he just like one game at a time? Or do you think he's ready to start the parade? He's trying to maintain his composure. Because if you're on Stephen A at all, you will see that when the cameras turn off, he's still very much like the guy you see on tv and obviously he turns up a little bit and i'm not saying if you wake him up at three in the morning he's going to be like that but he after game one he he did scott van pelt i could see him holding it in on van pelt he did not want to go crazy he did van pelt and he got off the air and he so he's you know no one was seeing this and he just came to me and he grabbed my jacket and he goes three more he was almost like vibrating he was like three more like it is his nicks fandom is not an act like he may amplify it obviously to a certain extent for a television audience to be entertaining but his core fandom is there.

2:00:53Brian Windhorst:I've watched it. And so he is trying to maintain his composure. I don't know what's going to happen if they win two more games.

2:01:03PFT Commenter:It's going to be a scene. I'm excited for tonight watching at MSG. All right, Wendy, you're the best. I got one last question for you. Rowback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com. Promo code TAKE. Again, listen to the Hoop Collective. Watch Wendy on ESPN. They're going to have draft coverage coming up after the NBA Finals, free agency, everything. He's going to have us tuned in for all that. Zach, do you have a question for Wendy? We have two massive Knicks fans in our booth. Zach and Memes. Memes, if you've got a question too, you can throw one out there.

2:01:40PFT Commenter:You boys got a question for Wendy? How are we doing today, sir? I'm doing great. You don't have to call me sir. He calls us sir too every day. It's crazy. I was curious, a little bit earlier in the interview, you spoke to being around this Knicks team here recently. Just as a viewer from home watching the games, I've never really seen a team across any sports or any sport play with such unity that I'm seeing on the court with the Knicks. Like the togetherness that you can feel when they're out there playing, like when one guy's kind of down, not doing the best, they're right there picking them back up and vice versa.

2:02:13And I was just wondering if you could speak to kind of how that's been to see up close.

2:02:17Brian Windhorst:Yeah. So I spent a week with the Knicks in Abu Dhabi back in October. I went there. They had like a, you know, they played two games there. Philly was there too. And I spent that week with them and they were, they were very confident about this season. They like, I think they genuinely believe they could do this from, from day one. And so did their, like, so did Jim Dolan, like Jim Dolan, Like whatever level the Giannis trade was offered. I know there's all this playing with language and I know that the, the bucks have had like one foot in and one foot out and Giannis is the same, whatever, but the phone call was made.

2:02:56Brian Windhorst:The conversation was had and they were like, no, we're good. We're good. Okay. And, um, they didn't change their roster at all from last year. I mean, you know, I, you know, they added like some guys to the edge, like, like Shamit or whatever, but it's the same team because they, because like I think I see these teams lose in the in the in the playoffs and then you inevitably get like well they've got to make big changes and like the Knicks were like no we believe in this team and so number one how many playoff series is this core played together they've played like I don't know probably you know over the last two years it's been seven playoff series like the year before maybe it was two like they've had like nine or ten playoff series of this core together you that's that's your 10 000 hours you go through like three or four seasons and like nine playoff series highs and lows and the organization like spoke to them and was basically like we trust all of you we believe in all of you this team and like from day one like they didn't care what seed they were like obviously if they were this fighting for the sixth seed we'd have had a problem but like they didn't care they were the three seed all they cared about was like getting healthy and getting their games to where they wanted to go.

2:04:13Brian Windhorst:And the other thing is this crowd, this garden crowd, they love this team. Like the garden crowd is obviously typically boisterous, but typically very cynical. And this crowd loves this team. They love this team like they're the 94 Knicks. Regardless of what happens in this series, 20 years from now, you're going to be seeing Josh Hart, Mikael Bridges, Jalen Brunson, Mitchell Robinson sit in courtside because the fans love this team. And there's a real unity that comes along with that. Now you watch them play. There's a discipline when they drive the ball five times in the same possession and keep kicking it out.

2:04:53Brian Windhorst:I mean, that's coaching. That's, you know, togetherness, that's discipline. But like, it didn't just happen overnight. Like this is a thing that, you know, people try to steal things from other teams. They never, nobody ever wants to steal patience. They want to steal the player. They want to steal a coach. They want to steal an executive. Nobody ever wants to steal patience because patience is hard. It's, it's slow. Well, that's what this team's had. They've had patience. And you know what? you look under the hood a little bit you look at leon rose and i'm just telling you i'm not close to leon rose in case like anybody thinks i'm carping for him like he used to be lebron's agent i would see him all all year long he doesn't he kept the media at arms like maybe he talked to some media members i mean we have a cordial relationship you know he you know he he sort it works in silence leon rose put together the the big three in miami now i know pat rowley played a role and obviously lebron duane and bosh had to get together and do it but leon rose organized that he he was with caa he got all of them to agree to contracts that were the same length he got them all on the same page he like set all that up like that was like like he was he his hand was on the steering wheel of that move and now look at this he's on the steering wheel his hands on the steering wheel of potentially breaking this long i mean obviously the players have to do it and brunson has to be great i'm not saying but like look at this badass yeah it's pretty crazy and like this other guy that you know in west wesley leon and west are pretty much side by side there's this other guy who works in the knicks front office his name's brock aller nobody knows what he looks like he doesn't want anybody to know what he looks like okay Brock Aller was in the Cavs he was the Cavs head of strategy and cap management when they put the team together that built that championship now obviously I know LeBron James was the one who won that championship and LeBron called Kevin Love and said Kevin please come to come with me and that that was like I don't want to make it sound like it wasn't but they did like 10 different creative, weird ass revolutionary moves to put that team together.

2:07:05Brian Windhorst:And he helped break the 53 or 54 year drought in Cleveland without a championship. Now he's here. Okay. And Leon Rose hired him because he was LeBron's agent and he saw how he worked. He was like, this guy's a killer that nobody knows about. He hired him here and all these Knicks maneuvers, like the Knicks made like three or four underground, like stealth moves to get the cap space to sign Jalen Brunson the Mavericks didn't even think that he was going to New York because they didn't have the cap space right they're like they're like they can't get him and if they want to get him they got to call us to do a sign-in trade we're not doing it all of a sudden smoke and mirrors came out and the Knicks popped out on the other end with enough cap space and the Mavericks look whoa how'd they do that and the Carl Towns trade go look at it that was some wild ass wizardry to do the Carl Towns trade and keep them under the second apron anyway what I'm saying to you is all of these guys on the Knicks are deeply, deeply invested in like a five-year plan.

2:08:04Brian Windhorst:And all of them have like done a great job, whether it's Josh Hart, whether it's Bridges, whether it's Brunson, all of them have done a great job. So there's this really incredible franchise alignment that's coming together and they get two more wins and they all get rings. Sometimes your franchise comes together and you don't get rings and you all get fired. That happens more often than not. But you talk about togetherness, it's because all of these guys are masters at what they do, whether it's Josh Hart getting rebounds or Mitchell Robinson being the goon off the bench, whether it's Jalen Brunson as the clutch guy, whether it's the stretch five of Carl Towns, whether it's the coach, whether it's the GM, whether it's the strategy guy, they're all really good at what they do.

2:08:46Brian Windhorst:They've all got years combined into them. I know I'm filibustering here. and they all get it aligned and they all play their they all do their best at the exact same time in a way it's kind of beautiful and the city here in new york is absolutely in love with it and people are saying to me like don't you think it's going to be crazy inside the garden monday night it's going to be crazy in the city when i saw the videos when the game ended like people who were over in jersey and they could hear the city reacting to the knicks winning like you see videos like in, you know, Buenos Aires or Paris when like PSG scores or Argentina scores and you hear the city react.

2:09:30Brian Windhorst:That is how New York is being right now. The special thing happening in New York isn't just in the garden, it's in the city. And they all love these guys and they're all playing and they're doing their jobs in the best. It's kind of beautiful in a way. And it's not something that we normally see from the Knicks, and it's not something we normally see from a big city. Normally, this is a small town thing.

2:09:52PFT Commenter:Yeah.

2:09:53Brian Windhorst:So that's what's all happening right now.

2:09:54PFT Commenter:It is beautiful. It's not kind of beautiful. It's why we watch sports. The community and everyone coming together, it's awesome. Memes, did you have a question? You just fired me up by saying that. Can you hear how fired up Memes is right now? I'm so fired up. I have a question about your career. what is the Mount Rushmore finals that you've covered?

2:10:16Brian Windhorst:Oh, great question. Great question, memes. Man, why didn't I do this on my own podcast? Yeah. All right. Well, 2016. 2016 was the most amazing year of my career because you have to understand Kobe is retiring and he goes on that tour where like every stop, the players are washing his feet. And it's just amazing. and he has the 60-point game to end it, you know, Mamba out, iconic moment. The Warriors win 73, and we see them do that chase during the year. Conference finals, game six, Clay, Warriors are down 3-1, come back and win. Finals, Cavs are down 3-1, come back, win. Cleveland, this is for you.

2:11:03Brian Windhorst:Even though of those seven games, like five of them were not close, and like I have like no recollection of anything that actually happened in like game three 2016 definitely on Mount Rushmore yeah

2:11:21Brian Windhorst:heat spurs 2013 the Ray Allen shot and then really an under you know people all remember the game six comeback in Miami um Ray Allen because of that shot and everything was amazing but game seven was a tremendously highly contested well-played game where LeBron hit a couple of enormous shots down the stretch of that game to seal that championship is that the one that was

2:11:50PFT Commenter:that the game that Duncan missed the the hook shot bunny yeah Duncan misses the bunny and LeBron

2:11:55Brian Windhorst:comes down with one second on the shot clock hits the shot that puts them goes from two to four to basically ice it you know one of the biggest shots lebron's career that you know when people say what are the highest lebron's career they never mentioned i was like oh well he just made like a a gigantic clutch jumper to win a championship like why would that be on your list but um so that was and that was a little bit different that was a 2-3-2 series the situation was different um you know um san antonio came back to miami up 3-2 and miami won the last two games Um, it was, I think it was like the sort of convinced them to change it quite frankly.

2:12:30Brian Windhorst:So that's, um, that's there. Um, I guess I would put last year's up there. I mean, a seven game finals last year where Indiana like steals game one and, you know, you know, has a masterful performance in game six to force a game seven. Um, you know, any, any seven game, uh, finals, you know, is, uh, is up there. And then let me think the fourth one. um i i i enjoy you know the the finals with the celtics and the warriors um the warriors were down in that series 2-1 and the celtics were looking very strong and in td garden in game four steph puts up 40 um which is my second favorite steph moment after of the the uh the olympics which will you know is on my mount rushmore the the two great experiences i've ever had uh covering a game were 2016 game seven where nobody could score for 15 minutes um and the block in the in the shot and what have you um then the second one was watching curry throw in four threes or whatever in that fourth quarter in paris and literally break the French heart.

2:13:52Brian Windhorst:And, you know, seeing him run down the court and give the night night while Carmelo was jumping 15 feet in the air, you know, as he ran past the, you know, the American players, you know, that's up there too. I mean, I don't know if I can put sneak that on my Mount Rushmore, but that series where the, cause that Warriors team, you obviously had won the three titles and then they crashed their team all the way down, rebuilt it and came back up with sort of a differently structured team and beat a team in Boston that was a championship level team. They obviously came back later and won, you know, one, two years later, but to see Steph score 40 in the garden and then come back and close them out there, the, you know, the, you know, the, the, the cream of the crop moment.

2:14:34Brian Windhorst:I really think that was the, you know, the real jewel of the, of the Warriors run. They obviously, you know, had three other championships, but that one in 2022 just meant so much more to them. So I would think I would sneak that on there, but I reserve the right to say that I forgot a certain series and I could just say that you creatively edited it out and you screwed me. So I reserve that.

2:14:56PFT Commenter:No, that's a great answer. Wendy, you're the best. Also, next time you come to Chicago, please tell us. You were here for a couple days for the draft lottery? I would love to do it.

2:15:08Brian Windhorst:I was there for like 20 hours. Okay. I love Chicago, especially in the spring. I have great memories of covering Cavs, Bulls, and Pete Bulls playoff series. As you guys know, it is amazing in the spring and early summer. It's like Toronto. Like being in Chicago and Toronto in June is unbelievable. But the Bulls have to keep up their end of the bargain. I haven't been there for Bulls for a while. But, yeah, next time I'm in Chicago, I'll let you know I'm coming. Okay.

2:15:39PFT Commenter:Love it. Wendy, you're the best. Enjoy game three. enjoy your live show on Tuesday night I feel like Knicks fans are no longer going to be mad at you they're too happy so you're on the good side

2:15:51Brian Windhorst:they're mad at me because I said that I thought that the Celtics would beat them last year

2:15:57PFT Commenter:you shouldn't have how could you

2:16:00Brian Windhorst:I have a question for you before I go when I say the words Hammond Indiana what do you say

2:16:09PFT Commenter:we already talked about this I'm sorry No, no, no. It's fine. It's just ridiculous. Well, actually, my first reaction would be Horseshoe Casino. Great casino. Great casino in Hammond, Indiana. Had some actually incredible blackjack runs in Hammond, Indiana. It's just a joke. The whole thing's a joke. It's insane that we're here.

2:16:31Brian Windhorst:they've lost their way here okay yeah and um uh they're building the stadium and new stadium in cleveland at the airport right and let me just tell you when i was in my early 20s and i and i bought my first condo for 95 000 i bought it in brook park ohio where they're building the stadium and i think it's insane yeah literally nobody ever in their lives has ever said let's do something cool what are we going to do let's go to the cleveland airport yeah so i'm saying that as a former resident of this city yeah and a cleveland browns fan and they're going to move it off of the lakefront and they're taking it to the airport okay and i say take you to the airport i'm not saying like it's it's you know it's five miles from the airport the runway is here and like a Patrick Mahomes bomb the football stadium is there it's across the street nobody they said well that's what they're where the land was well no kidding yeah now as insane as it is to build a football stadium in Cleveland at the airport that the Bears are two options are next you know a suburb of Madison, Wisconsin, and Hammond, Indiana.

2:17:51PFT Commenter:It's crazy. What the hell is going on? It sucks. It sucks. I think all the new stadiums, I think we're going to get to a point. We've talked about this before. The Browns, perfect example. The Bears. We're going to get to a point in like 20, 25 years where we're going to look back and be like, why did we put all of our football stadiums indoors? Why did we do that? We took this element of it and we moved them all out of their cities and the Chiefs are moving and the Broncos are moving indoors. The Browns are going indoors, going to the airport. The Bears might be going to him. I think it's going to be a big regret.

2:18:26PFT Commenter:I think we're going to look back and be like, why did we do that? Let's put an indoor stadium at the airport. Why does Soldier Field need replaced? It doesn't need replaced. The Bears don't own Soldier Field. So they lease it from the city of Chicago. The city of Chicago, which is actually a great thing that they've done forever. is that no private company can own anything east of Lakeshore Drive. So basically the entire stretch of the lake is for the public, which is great because you don't want it to be the entire, all the lakefront is just private condos for the richest people. So the Bears can't own a stadium there.

2:19:00PFT Commenter:The city owns the stadium. They lease it from the city, and the pressure is coming from the NFL basically saying build a new stadium so that the Bears now can be worth $8 billion instead of$7 billion. It all sucks. Because like anything in these situations, the biggest loser, whether it be the Browns, the Chiefs, the Bears, the Bronx, the biggest loser is always going to be the fans and the taxpayers. So.

2:19:23Brian Windhorst:All right.

2:19:24PFT Commenter:Yeah. Sorry. No, it sucks. I'm still holding out hope that they just sort of like, this whole thing's stupid. We'll just stay at Soldier Field. I know it's probably not going to happen.

2:19:36Brian Windhorst:All right. All right. The Redskins are building a beautiful stadium in the middle of a town, right? PFT? Like, it's no problem. They're moving back. So that's where they were. Who knew the Redskins would be the leaders, the thought leaders? I'm sorry, the commanders. The commanders, yeah, yeah. Well, the football team, you can call them whatever you want. But yeah, they did what the Bears are doing right now is exactly what they did back in the early to mid-90s. Which was a terrible mistake. Terrible mistake. They moved to a soulless dump in the middle of nowhere. The one thing they had the foresight to do, they made the town change the name when the Redskins moved up there.

2:20:11Now they change it to something stupid called Ral John Maryland which was the first names Of Jack Kink Cook's sons Ralph and John so they called it Ral John Maryland I was telling Big Cat That Hammond they should change The name of the town or at least where the Stadium is and just call it like Bear Country yeah like you're in Bear Country Palace Indiana you're in Bear Country Indiana Like welcome to the cave You know like that would at least Be a nice film to take a throw

2:20:36PFT Commenter:This is why you're a marketing genius But this is what I'm looking forward to in 40 years we're still hopefully doing part of my take we'll be going back to City of Chicago Big Cat's going to be looking at the architecture renderings of what the stadium's going to look like on Lakeshore Drive you'll just be recording it at 4pm yeah

2:20:54Brian Windhorst:you'll be like Tony and Mike you guys will be like Tony and Mike and you'll do your show at 4pm like Tony and Mike yeah exactly

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2:22:39PFT Commenter:All right, boys. I'm pissed, by the way. Did you guys see this fake Lazy River? Yeah. Yeah. The Costco one? Yeah. I mean, well, Dante tweeted it being like, hey, we should buy this. I just said I'm in, and then I find out it's fake. That thing would have been awesome. Yeah. Why don't they have it? We should. We should have a Lazy River. That's one of those ones where it's too... Costco does have deals like that, where they're like, hey, here's a lazy river for$9.99. That might have radicalized me against AI fully. Like, I'm done with AI. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's so spot on that I'm pissed because that should exist, and it should be as cheap as$9.99.

2:23:18PFT Commenter:Yeah, Max just pulled one up that's$10 ,000. I want my... Because you know the one that you... If Costco ever did this for under$1 ,000, you'd buy it. It'd work for like a week, and then it would break, but it would be the greatest week of your life. The funniest part was that Dante saw Lazy Red for$999. He was like, do I know anyone that can afford this? Yeah. I would see if it was$999, I would buy it first, ask questions later. Dude, it's$999. That's not$1 ,000. Yeah. That's how they get you. $999. Yeah. That's how they get you. I may or may not be having a conversation about a flight simulator, full-size flight simulator.

2:24:00Don't we have one? No. I'm talking cockpit. I'm talking it moves. Didn't we buy a whole computer and set up for you to do a stream? I did. And then we never used it again. So I bought it. That's Zach's streaming corner. Yeah. Do we have the simulator still? I have it, yeah. Is it at your house? It's at my house. But we've got the VR headset right there and the joystick right there. But I'm talking an actual F-18 cockpit.

2:24:31PFT Commenter:You're talking Adda? You said it moves. It moves. It goes up and down. You're talking Muhammad Adda? F18? No, no, no. Just saying the flight simulator that moves. No, that's a different one. Okay. That was a different one. Because we don't want that. I only work on takeoff and landing. They announced updates to Microsoft Flight Sim today. Did they? At the showcase, yeah. Oh, the showcase. Did you watch this showcase live? Not live, but I did watch it. You would have actually had them interested if you mentioned that part, Zach. Yeah. Zach, you got to hit us with what we like. Okay, so Microsoft Flight Sim 2024, they announced updates.

2:25:05What are the updates? Do they have military aircraft out? Can you fire missiles? I didn't have the exact Spartan notes on what they're putting into it. I just know they're revamping a little bit, which is exciting. That is exciting. Maybe upgrade your weapons? Yeah. Hey, it's birthday week for Hank. How about that? Yeah. Oh, you said Wednesday on the Friday show. Your birthday is Saturday. I got my dates confused. Yeah. Your birthday is Saturday. I know your birthday. It's June 13th. Also, shout out to my grandfather's birthday today. Oh, yeah. Happy birthday, Hans. Thanks, grandfather.

2:25:32PFT Commenter:All right. Numbers two. No. That's what I was going to go with. I'll go with 11. Four. You guys just. You never guessed two? No, but two more wins. 25. Oh. I didn't even put that together. Yeah. I have one with two, but that was for. 21. What's your guess, memes? Shane, what's up, dude? What numbers have been guessed? You should guess four memes. What numbers have you picked? Two I guessed 11 I did 25 I did 98 I did 4 21 I'll do 3 Shane Josh Hart Shane, what's up, dude?

2:26:19Shane, what's up? What's up, guys? You mad at us? No Shane, what did you order? BLT. 91! 91. All right, one more. So you ordered the BLT and it came with cheese? No. What? No, they gave me a jalapeno burger with extra onions.

2:26:43Eat a dick. There was definitely just a normal amount of onions on there. Any onions, extra onions.

2:26:52PFT Commenter:Oh, oh, eight. What was that? Eight. Eight. Guess that the other day. You guessed that the other day? It's all good. You didn't get it? No, I didn't get it. Seven, remember? Have you ever gotten it on this machine? I have one time. You've never gotten it on this machine? No, you haven't. Yes, I did. Happy birthday to Mike Florio. We don't even know if that's true. Mike Florio and Kanye West. Happy birthday, buddies. Oh, nice. Very happy for you guys. The big two. The big two. Big two birthdays. And then Tuesday is Johnny Depp's birthday. Natalie Portman, shout out. Michael J. Fox, shout out. Josh Cribs, shout out.

2:27:31Udonis Haslam, shout out. I don't care about it. I hate people. What about Florio? Florio I care about. Kanye.

2:27:39Brian Windhorst:Portman. Yeah, Natalie Portman. Yes. Yeah. A little bit. Ashley Biden, happy birthday. Shout out. Shout out. Love you guys. Thank you.

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