Celtics Head Coach Joe Mazzulla, Kyle Long In Studio, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + Guys On Chicks

15 Apr 2026 · 2 h 45 min · 84 chapters

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In short

The show opens with sports talk and jokes, then centers on NBA playoffs/play-in preview and predictions (“choose-your-own-adventure” for play-in matchups). They also run segments Hot Seat/Cool Throne and Guys on Chicks, plus additional debates about AI videos, sports scheduling/TV coverage, and various sports/entertainment news.

Guests (in-studio)

Joe Mazzulla, Boston Celtics head coach. Background: NBA head coach; discussed in relation to the NBA playoffs and how the season went, plus a personal household story. Kyle Long, former NFL offensive lineman (Chicago Bears). Background: in studio to talk about the draft and his own draft process.

Key claims and notable examples

  • Play-in format is criticized as “stupid,” with the idea that 9th/10th teams rarely win deep; exceptions are discussed (e.g., Heat making a run when they were in the play-in).
  • National TV coverage change: first-round NBA playoff games moved off local networks (they call it “bullshit”), implying broadcasters like Mike Breen may lose local playoff assignments.
  • AI controversy: Jay Williams condemns AI mocking Tiger Woods/Rory McIlroy as exploitation/theft, specifically calling out stolen PGA/CBS footage.
  • Diego Pavia praise: described as an “underdog” who went from minimal recruitment to dominating at multiple stops; compared to “Johnny Manziel 2.0” initially, but the hosts say they’ve changed their minds after Gruden’s QB camp video.
  • WNBA relationship debate: Paige Bueckers and Ozzy Fudd living/working together on the Dallas Wings is framed as potentially good for the relationship but “nightmare” for team dynamics.
  • “Guys on Chicks” feud: Alex Cooper vs. Alex Earl is discussed as passive-aggressive social media beef after Earl left the Unwell Network and reposted a TikTok calling Cooper an “ambulance chaser.”

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Tax Day Banter

0:09 to 2:19

Hosts discuss the stress of Tax Day and their experiences with taxes.

“Stella Blue Coffee is more than just great coffee.”

Tax Day Banter

2:24 to 3:08

Hosts discuss the stress of Tax Day and their experiences with taxes.

“Stella Blue Coffee's new can lattes are here.”

Tax Day Banter

3:49 to 4:40

Hosts discuss the stress of Tax Day and their experiences with taxes.

Philadelphia Flyers and NHL Playoffs

4:41 to 7:48

Discussion about the Philadelphia Flyers' playoff chances and ongoing NHL season dynamics.

“I will pay taxes today or try to do like a late extension situation.”

Difficult Sports Years

7:49 to 10:38

Exploration of challenging years for various sports teams and cities, focusing on DC sports.

“When you're like, when the playoffs started and you're like, I'm excited for the Bruins.”

Play-In Game Debate

10:39 to 14:00

Hosts debate the merits and issues surrounding the NBA play-in tournament format.

“That means Luke McCaffrey Pro Bowl next year.”

Play-In Tournament Opinions

14:00 to 15:06

Discussion about the NBA play-in tournament and its impact on teams.

“It's exciting for, like, a team like the Hornets.”

Anticipation for Playoff Weekend

15:06 to 17:08

Excitement builds for the upcoming NBA and NHL playoff weekends.

“This is your number one weekend of the year?”

Changes in Broadcast for First Round

17:08 to 17:45

Discussion on the shift of playoff game broadcasts from local to national networks.

“Hired Peter DeBoer to get an early start for next season.”

NHL Coaching Changes

17:45 to 18:05

Conversation about the Islanders' coaching changes and their recent performance.

“He probably couldn't hear that with all the rings in his ears.”
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Hot Seat Cool Throne Introduction

18:05 to 19:05

Introduction to the 'Hot Seat Cool Throne' segment with a mention of upcoming interviews.

“Stella Blue is more than just great coffee.”

Hot Seat Cool Throne Introduction

19:08 to 19:47

Introduction to the 'Hot Seat Cool Throne' segment with a mention of upcoming interviews.

“Twisted Tea is the perfect drink to keep the good times going all day and all season long.”

Usain Bolt and Gout Gout

19:47 to 22:26

Discussion about the new sprinting phenomenon Gout Gout breaking records.

“You kept saying, but it's only on a track.”

Diego Pavia's Rise

22:26 to 25:55

Conversation about Diego Pavia's journey and potential in football.

“That's crazy What can he do in the 100 though?”

Hot Seat Cool Throne Analysis

25:55 to 28:00

In-depth discussion around the concept of height in sports and how it affects players.

“Like, Taysom Hill and Drew Brees worked great together.”

Backup Quarterback Energy

28:00 to 28:30

Discussing the mindset and qualities of a backup quarterback.

“This is going to sound like a diss, but I'm using it as a compliment.”

Harambe vs. Fatou the Gorilla

28:30 to 29:46

A light-hearted discussion about gorillas and their cultural impact.

“Because there's another new gorilla on the block.”

Orca Diets and Their Unique Behavior

29:46 to 30:57

Exploring the dietary habits and social behaviors of orcas.

“Did you know that orcas, all the orcas, like, they're in different pods, and they all eat one thing, and they don't overlap?”

Orca Behavior in Captivity

30:57 to 31:46

Discussion on orcas in captivity and their impact on human interactions.

“What happens when one pod starts eating humans?”

Tilikum and Orcas' Reputation

31:46 to 32:53

Debating the legacy of Tilikum and its influence on orca populations.

“if you are starting a new sports franchise, have the uniforms look like Orca whales.”

Generational Behavior Among Orcas

32:53 to 34:05

Analyzing how orca behavior is affected by their lineage.

“And now you're like, oh, orcas are evil.”

WNBA Relationships and Dynamics

34:05 to 36:05

Discussing the implications of romantic relationships in the WNBA.

“I could drop you in the ocean right now in front of an entire pack of orcas.”

WNBA Commissioner's Controversy

36:05 to 37:42

Examining a controversy involving the WNBA commissioner and media questioning.

“was a player at yukon she was page becker's girlfriend she is page becker's girlfriend Yep.”

AI and its Impact on Sports Commentary

37:42 to 41:22

Discussion about AI-generated videos in sports and their ethical implications.

“Yeah, I think it's a nice story for them.”

Billboard Humor and Sports Commentary

41:22 to 42:00

Talking about a humorous billboard regarding sports predictions.

“For me, it's more about stealing the intellectual property of CBS Sports.”

Wit and the Billboard

42:00 to 42:48

Discussion about the Sabres, a billboard featuring Whitney, and humor in sports.

“He said 0.0 % chance that Buffalo makes the playoffs.”

NASA's Study on Astronauts

42:48 to 44:08

Exploring NASA's findings about the importance of humor among astronauts.

“Perhaps the most important insight NASA has gleaned from studying team dynamics in space and on Earth is the preciousness of one trait in particular, a sense of humor.”

Alex Earl vs. Alex Cooper

44:08 to 45:28

Analysis of the ongoing feud between Alex Earl and Alex Cooper in the podcasting world.

“unless you don't think we're funny which yeah fair enough who think that i bet i bet the tennis podcast could go to Jupiter.”

The Dynamics of the Feud

45:28 to 47:44

Deep dive into the context and nature of the feud between Alexes in social media.

“You should tweet at Alex Earl and be like, you have 24 hours.”

The Role of Producers

47:44 to 48:34

Discussion on the impact of producers in shaping podcast narratives, particularly Alex Cooper's.

“And Alex Earl reposted that, which then basically forced Alex Cooper's hand to be like, if you want to talk shit, say it to my face via your own social media.”

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

48:34 to 49:30

Discussing this week's cool throne, the Artemis 2 recovery team and its significance.

“Him and Mooj wrote like most of their episodes, word for word, bar for bar, just got completely washed out of the history that Alex has written about herself.”

Flat Earth Theories

49:30 to 51:43

Contemplating the persistent beliefs of flat earthers in light of new evidence.

“My cool throne this week is going to be the Artemis 2 recovery team.”

Flat Earth Theories

52:36 to 53:19

Contemplating the persistent beliefs of flat earthers in light of new evidence.

“That means that suddenly everyone thinks that they're a GM, which is when you realize that some picks just make sense.”

Interview with Joe Mazzulla

53:19 to 56:00

Introduction and interview with Boston Celtics head coach Joe Mazzulla.

“I mean, you're calling it the most prestigious Coach of the Award in history.”

The Mental Game of Jujitsu

56:00 to 58:00

Explore the mindset of handling failure and competition through jujitsu.

“Like, there's a lot of stuff still that you can win.”

Celtics' Game Philosophy

58:00 to 59:58

Discuss the importance of playing to win regardless of circumstances.

“then I don't, I don't think you're really on the journey, you know?”

Season Challenges and Resilience

59:58 to 1:02:11

Understand the pivotal moments that shaped the Celtics' season.

“I want to go back to the beginning of the season and ask you if there was a moment that maybe you had a light bulb moment with the team or kind of kicked their ass and been like, hey, we're better than this.”

Tatum's Recovery Journey

1:02:11 to 1:04:27

Learn about Tatum's quick recovery and the team's response to injuries.

“One, like for the team coming in, it does not, you know, I can't say that like the expectation is to go 56 and 26 or whatever every year.”

Humor in Coaching Pressures

1:04:27 to 1:05:56

Delve into the lighter side of coaching amidst pressures and public scrutiny.

“Was the quote that you dropped when you said, I might not be alive.”

Wrestling and Team Bonding

1:05:56 to 1:08:09

Discover the connection between wrestling antics and team camaraderie.

“The last time we had him on was like four or five years ago.”

Lessons from Pep Guardiola

1:08:09 to 1:10:01

Learn how soccer strategies influence basketball coaching methods.

“If we could do that to each other more, I think we'd all be nicer.”

Basketball and Soccer Insights

1:10:01 to 1:12:05

Explore the similarities between basketball and soccer through coaching perspectives.

“So I think you're learning from Pep as well.”

Family Dynamics and Coaching Style

1:12:06 to 1:14:30

Joe Mazzulla shares humorous anecdotes about his family and coaching style.

“My middle child, my daughter, she's got a little bit of my troll energy.”

Anonymous Player Quotes and Coaching Philosophy

1:14:31 to 1:16:42

Discussion on player criticisms and the philosophy behind coaching and team dynamics.

“And I think in this world today, it's easy.”

Challenges and Player Reactions

1:16:43 to 1:19:44

Joe talks about the dynamics of player challenges and team communication during games.

“enough, it was a Charlotte game and fortunate enough, they called both timeouts in the third quarter.”

Pre-Game Mentality and Spite

1:19:45 to 1:23:40

Insights into how coaches use mental strategies and emotions to prepare for games.

“How important do you think it was for him in that he traveled with the team the entire year, and how much easier did that make the transition when he came back?”

Brad Stevens' Unique No

1:23:41 to 1:24:00

A humorous take on how Brad Stevens effectively communicates without saying 'no'.

Preparing for Playoffs: Coach's Mindset

1:24:00 to 1:25:14

Learn about the mental preparation and strategies for the playoffs.

“That's one of the things that I learned from him the best.”

The Impact of JB: A Player as a 'Weapon'

1:25:14 to 1:26:35

Discover how player JB transforms the team's mentality and performance.

“But, like, are you actively doing, like, an either-or situation where it's like, okay, if this happens and I have one guy working on this team, one guy working on that team.”

Weapon Mode: Preparing Mentally and Emotionally

1:26:35 to 1:27:54

Explore the concept of 'weapon mode' and its importance in coaching.

“a guy that just changes the entire building with his mindset.”

Family Life and the 'Weapon Mode' Approach

1:27:54 to 1:29:40

Hear how the coach's family adapts to his intense playoff mindset.

“What's the status of your house right now?”

Kids in Weapon Mode: Parenting Challenges

1:29:40 to 1:31:42

Discuss the humorous parenting challenges of raising competitive children.

“So we have a rule in the house that you can put anybody in a guillotine at any time.”

Martial Arts Influence on Learning

1:31:42 to 1:33:37

Learn how martial arts training influences behavior and classroom attention.

“First of all, wasn't Hank supposed to be training jiu-jitsu?”

Transitioning Into the Next Guest

1:33:48 to 1:35:30

Listen to Coach Mazzulla's thoughts on playoff matchups.

“Do you care at all, or is it just whoever is going to show up?”

Kyle Long's Off-Season Look and Style

1:36:51 to 1:37:59

Discuss Kyle Long's new look and personal style choices.

“and a very good friend, recurring guest.”

Hair Talk and Draft Anticipation

1:38:01 to 1:38:57

The hosts humorously discuss hair growth and transition into draft memories.

“I wonder if SVP ever tried to grow a beard.”

Kyle Long's Draft Experience

1:38:58 to 1:40:15

Kyle Long shares his personal experience leading up to the NFL draft and his family's reaction.

“like a week and a half out, what is going through your head as someone who's been told, hey, you're going to probably be a first rounder, but we don't know.”

Redraft Conversations and Career Reflections

1:40:16 to 1:42:40

The hosts discuss potential redrafts and Kyle's position in the NFL draft rankings.

Analyzing Draft Weaknesses

1:42:41 to 1:45:45

Kyle Long reflects on his draft weaknesses and how he has addressed them over his career.

“I think I might put you around like four or five and that would send you to...”

Twitter and the Pre-Draft Process

1:45:46 to 1:47:30

The hosts discuss the impact of social media during the draft process and share personal anecdotes.

“Seems to second-guess himself in space, don't we all?”

Locker Room Dynamics and Fan Connections

1:47:31 to 1:50:10

The conversation shifts to the relationship between players and fans, addressing social media's role.

“And I think there's always, especially guys that are younger, having a connection to the fans.”

Workout Stories with Coaches

1:50:11 to 1:52:00

Kyle shares experiences from workouts with coaches, revealing the challenges faced during the process.

“And it was, it was, it was part like the story of you getting a picture taken by the media with your dick out.”

Draft Day Memories

1:52:00 to 1:53:38

Kyle Long shares a humorous and insightful story about his draft day experience.

Left-Handed Golfing Techniques

1:53:38 to 1:57:49

Discussion about left-handed golfing experiences and techniques.

“the seahawks did that like i if you had a severe drinking problem if you were like an alcoholic Which I don't.”

Gamer Insights

1:57:49 to 2:01:45

A light-hearted conversation about their gaming preferences and experiences.

“There needs to be more lefty representation in the world.”

Military Simulation Gaming

2:01:45 to 2:05:19

Engaging conversation about military simulation games and experiences.

“You've been hitting Stellamontis at all?”

Media Challenges After NFL

2:05:19 to 2:06:00

Kyle Long discusses the challenges of transitioning to media after the NFL.

“You know, my biggest job is just come with the energy to be ready to react off of Pete's energy because he's going to be bringing his fireball and his fastball.”

Football Season Predictions

2:06:00 to 2:07:06

The hosts discuss potential playoff teams and player performances for the upcoming football season.

“Because he does watch the tape, so he will have – it'll be an informed opinion.”

Team Dynamics and Player Development

2:07:06 to 2:09:46

Exploring how team dynamics and player development can impact overall performance in the NFL.

“Is there a team that you think might regress?”

Expectations for the Bills and Joe Brady

2:09:46 to 2:12:14

Discussing the impact of Joe Brady's offensive strategies on the Buffalo Bills' performance next season.

“Have you paid any attention at all to Jennings Dunker?”

Fun Baseball Challenge

2:12:21 to 2:14:20

A lighthearted discussion about whether any of the hosts could hit off a guest's fastball.

“Do you think that any of us here could get a hit off of you?”

Kyle Long's Charity Work

2:14:20 to 2:15:04

Kyle Long discusses his involvement with a charity initiative and upcoming challenges.

“I think we should plug Waterboys Okay yes.”

Transition to Guys on Chicks

2:15:04 to 2:15:28

The hosts introduce the next segment, Guys on Chicks, after wrapping up with Kyle Long.

“Before we do that, though, Hank, are we going to rip some packs?”

Breaking News on Diana Rossini

2:15:28 to 2:20:00

The hosts discuss breaking news regarding Diana Rossini's resignation from The Athletic.

“We're ripping a 2024 Tops Rookie Box this week.”

Resignation Speculation and Double Standards in Sports

2:20:00 to 2:23:46

Discussing the implications of a public resignation in the sports world and the perceived double standards for male and female figures in similar situations.

Humorous Takes on Modern Relationships

2:23:51 to 2:25:22

Exploring quirky relationship dynamics and funny anecdotes from the listeners, including a discussion on a trend in the gay community.

“We know PFT can shoot a 110 at the Masters.”

Bertha's Chaotic Bar Drama

2:25:22 to 2:29:59

Delving into a wild story about a chaotic encounter in a bar, highlighting issues of friendship and drama.

“We're talking about the one that calls his butthole his pussy.”

Canadian Provinces Trivia

2:30:00 to 2:30:25

Engaging in a trivia session about Canadian provinces, showcasing light-hearted competition among hosts.

“It's Alberta, British Columbia, Manitoba.”

Historical References and Modern Context

2:30:25 to 2:34:00

Discussing various historical wars and their implications, including humorous takes on Ronald Reagan and the war on drugs.

“That's honestly the best that Americans can do.”

War on Christmas and Drugs

2:34:00 to 2:35:45

The hosts humorously discuss past 'wars' and their outcomes.

“I think every war that I've taken part in, I think I've won.”

Studio Overhaul Discussions

2:35:45 to 2:37:14

The hosts brainstorm ideas for remodeling their studio environment.

“How long was knocking his arms and head on that show?”

Debating Shelf Stability and Decor

2:37:14 to 2:40:16

A lively debate ensues regarding the stability of the studio's shelves and decor.

“Replacing the shelves and remodeling are two different things.”

Birthday Mentions and Greetings

2:40:16 to 2:44:08

The hosts celebrate and mention various birthdays, adding personal touches.

“Are we just not going to talk about Grayson Allen?”

Birthday Mentions and Greetings

2:46:43 to 2:47:09

The hosts celebrate and mention various birthdays, adding personal touches.

“When I found out I was going to be a parent, I immediately felt a lot of anxiety and worry.”
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1:33PFT Commenter:We've got a twofer for the people, and it's actually an incredible back-to-back. We have Boston Celtics head coach Joe Mazzula. Haven't caught up with him in a while, but we're going to get him on to talk some NBA playoffs, how the season went. Also an incredible story he told about his household. And then we have good friend, best friend Kyle Long in studio talking a little draft, talking a little what his draft process was like. Just catching up with him. Great back-to-back interviews. We're going to talk some playoffs set, the play-in. We're going to do a little choose-your-own-adventure for Tuesday's play-ins.

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3:38PFT Commenter:Welcome to Part of My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, April 15th, and we've got some more playoffs set. Happy Tax Day, Hank. Happy Tax Day. let's go get your shit done you guys paying your taxes this year always always i paid a little extra i uh government gave him a little tip this year nice 15 percent gratuity you guys have done a great job i'm on the i'm on the extension october 15th so it's like yeah april 15th always kind of fucks me up because i'm like oh shit did i oh wait yeah yeah i just get one tax form to get you on extension you just stay on the extension for life no i'm 100 on the extension it sucks yes It's like, I'd rather just be done.

4:16PFT Commenter:October 15th is my new tax day now. Whatever a K-1 is, don't even know. Hank, you pay your taxes this year? Yeah. Got a guy. You did them? Yeah. When did you do them? I didn't do them. When did you tell him to do them? Recently. Nice. I don't think Hank's done his taxes. I think this is all. You want an extension? There's still time, Hank. We'll extend, dude. We'll extend for you. There's still time. I'm good. I'm chilling. I don't think you're good. I don't think you're good. I don't think you're chilling. I'm good and chilling. I got a question. Zach, do you pay taxes? Have you paid taxes? Do you pay taxes?

4:51PFT Commenter:Have you paid your taxes? I have paid taxes previously in life. I have not yet paid taxes this year. I will pay taxes today or try to do like a late extension situation. It's also like a state thing. I don't know if I'm filing here, if I'm supposed to file back at the house. You know, taxes aren't an easy thing to do. Because you moved up here. You lived in Florida for part of the year, right? Yeah, I think I live in Florida the majority. No, not the majority. I think I might have lived in Florida too many days. Let's be careful what we say on the record. I have no idea. I'm going to get a professional to do my taxes.

5:25Zach, anytime somebody asks you a question about your taxes, just refer them to your attorney.

5:30PFT Commenter:Hold on a sec. You're reaching out now to start? I've got no further comment at this time. Yeah, talk to his attorney, Max. What are you, wearing a wire? Well, I feel like it's pretty late to go search for an accountant now. No, there's plenty of fly-by-night guys out there that will take it. Max, bad job by us to start the show. Max, congratulations on the Philadelphia Flyers. Fly it up. Fly it up. Fly it up. You're in the offs. I'm sorry that I had to do you like that. No, it's fine. You guys got a lot of loser points this year, and that catapulted you above us, and we had more wins, but that's fine.

6:03You had more loser points, and that's the way that the cookie crumbles. So I want you to beat the Penguins, Max.

6:09PFT Commenter:Yeah, let's go. Everyone's fired. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. It was a crazy game. It was overtime. If they don't win the shootout, then you're still alive. Yeah. They win the shootout. The 45 % gone. Gone. That's the thing about 45 % is there was a 55 % chance that I wasn't going to make the fight. Actually, you should just spin zone it and just be like, that was one of the greatest magic tricks of all time. You made 45 % disappear so fast. 45 % is people forget that is actually more likely that they wouldn't make the playoffs. Don't explain that to Chef Donnie. What were you saying, Max?

6:44The Flyers and the Capitals actually have the same amount of wins. If anyone were to make that argument, it would be memes because the Islanders have more wins than both of those.

6:52PFT Commenter:All right, my mistake. Regulation wins? What about regulation wins? That's where you lose me. I don't know that. You can't find regulation wins? I also don't really understand. Well, it's in regulation. Not overtime. If you lose in overtime, it's actually not that bad. Yeah. Regulation wins. But what if you win in overtime? Is there a difference? No, it's good to win. The Capitals had eight more regulation wins than... What about overtime? I can't get too into the nitty-gritty with hockey. I'm fired up. That's my personal statement. Some really, really nitty-gritty stuff. Yeah, this is some big time.

7:30How the point system works. Congratulations, Max. I do actually want you to beat the Penguins. I am rooting for you. This is not me being a troll. I hope that the Philadelphia Flyers beat the Penguins in the playoffs. So congratulations. I'm happy for you. Congratulations.

7:44PFT Commenter:I'm excited. It's going to be fun. And we are set. Everyone. Hank also hockeyed up. Clinched it. Bees up. Remember last year? That was so funny. When you're like, when the playoffs started and you're like, I'm excited for the Bruins. It's like, they're not in it. Oh, shit. But you're back. I'm Bruins. I've said this for... Yeah, no, I'm not saying... It was just a funny moment. The playoffs start and I lock in. Yeah. And if the Bruins aren't in, I don't. You lock out. That's fine. Yeah, you're Henry Lockout. You can't pay attention to every sport all the time. No. I agree with that. No. It's very hard to do.

8:21I was going through it a little bit last night. I got very upset when the Flyers won in a shootout because the Hurricanes did not put their best players on the shootout lineup. For some reason, memes, maybe you can explain that one to me. Positioning.

8:33PFT Commenter:positioning they just didn't play in the game yeah well they already had positioned the best record yeah so um i was a little bit upset because i did want to see ov and the boys take on the penguins for old time's sake one last time in the playoffs i thought that would have been an awesome series at least at least for me to watch and maybe i was going through a little bit too hard but i i started to think about the calendar year that uh dc sports has had and i think i got stat hole digging into some like deep saber metrics on this but based on the research that i've done i think that the last 12 months in dc sports has been a top five all-time bad sports year for a city for a sport for sports town okay and um also including that i would say that like 2023 chicago might be in there too yeah if you take the white socks instead of the cubs as the baseball representative yeah i would put maybe 2015 philadelphia 2014-15 when you guys were doing the process that might be in the list too and then i mentioned to dom your assistant earlier that cleveland right after lebron left yes that was a tough year for them too now they're uh not for sport but he said that yeah but you know what that was like the year before we had peyton hillis oh and then i thought to myself that actually makes the case that it might even be worse yeah because you're saying it's always darkest before the dawn but your dawn is peyton hillis playing so good that he got on the madden cover but the browns still didn't make the playoff correct uh but yeah i i think that 2025-2026 washington dc is a top five all-time bad sports year with all four major sports all four major sports the wizards historically bad the nationals were terrible last year the mystics didn't make the playoffs but we got it hey we got a great center from ucla i'm just Oh, yeah.

10:24Oh, you got her? Yeah. She's awesome. She's a beast. Yeah. And then the commanders backsliding and just disappointing everybody. This has been a tough year, but maybe that just means it's darkest before the dawn. Peyton Hillis is coming. Peyton Hillis. That means Luke McCaffrey Pro Bowl next year. That's what that means. Jeremiah Love. Maybe. Maybe.

10:47PFT Commenter:Did you see that tweet that was like last time every team is drafted a running back in the first round and the commanders was 1967 yeah i can't remember who is that i don't know i'll try to find the tweet it's crazy yeah it was uh it's been a tough year in dc but that's okay because i do have to remind myself that i had that nice little two-year run where everything worked out my way but these are the things that you think about when you get frustrated with sports and uh yeah it's been a tough year but we move on but also max gets to get flyered up max is flyer I'd be happy about Max. So it's all worth it, yeah.

11:23PFT Commenter:Max so flyered up. So flyered up. Are you going to go pigtails? Sure. I'll go pigtails for the fly guys. Soggy sorrows? Sure. Okay. I'll get soggy as hell. You might not have to. Don't do that. That's loser talk. Yeah, you could just win the cup. It's for the cup. Are you actually going to get flyered up? It's for the cup. I want you to be actually upset if they lose. I can't promise you that, but I will be excited if they win. Okay. that's promise and i will get soggy if they lose also a promise also a promise love that so yeah we got play i mean playoffs we're playing uh choose your own adventure i'm rooting for the hornets i hope the hornets win yeah this isn't to get in the playoffs it's to get to the friday playing game for the eastern conference for the western conference uh i'm rooting for the blazers because the bulls have their pick if the blazers go to the playoffs so blazers hornets yeah actually If you're listening to this right now, that's what happened.

12:22PFT Commenter:Hornets, Suns. Hornets, Suns? Why would you say that? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Colton. Colton. I want Hornets and, you know what? I'm going to say Clippers. That's not a game choosing your own adventure. Yeah. This is truly choosing your own adventure. Yeah. The Clippers play on Wednesday. Right. But I think that I want the Clippers to advance out of the play-in. Got it. I want the Hornets. Well, there's two teams. Right. Yeah. What's the other one? The Hornets and the Clippers are the two teams that I want to advance. There's two teams each conference. I'm saying I want the Clippers to advance. I want the Hornets to advance.

13:02I want the Blazers to win tonight. Okay.

13:09And I'm going to go Sixers. I want to see the Sixers. I want to see Max. Yeah. I want to see Max because he's playing with house money with the Flyers.

13:17PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. By the way, is Steph Curry kind of just a play-in guy? I feel like the Warriors have been in the play-in every year. Yeah, well, they're even limiting his minutes in the play-in. Is he a play-in merchant? He might be. I don't know. I don't know what the Warriors are going to even look like if Steph Curry's going to play like 19 minutes. Not good. I hate the play-in. I hate the play-in. Max, I know I was busting your balls the other day. The play-in's stupid. It's stupid. And I honestly, like, until a team in the 9th or 10th spot can go deep in the playoffs, I'm not going to take it seriously.

13:54PFT Commenter:The 9th and 10th team are never going to win. Like, they're never going to go deep. This isn't serious. I know that the Heat, that one year that they went to the finals, they were in the play-in. But they were a playoff team anyway. So it's like, what are we doing? I just, it's so stupid. I hate it. I hate the play-in. It's exciting for, like, a team like the Hornets. I think it's fun for like one to two. Like the Blazers are probably pumped. But it would have been cool too. But the Blazers would have been in the playoffs. Yeah. So that one doesn't. Like the Hornets are the only case that I'll hear because they wouldn't be in the playoffs normally.

14:29PFT Commenter:And so now they get like a pseudo playoff game. But even then, like what about just next year making the playoffs for real and having that be the excitement? Like we're back in the playoffs. Yeah, the playoffs. I don't love the play-in in general. I'm going to watch. You know what? It feels like the Heat are just in the play-in every single season, too. Yeah. That's like their spot. We actually left them high and dry because it was always the Bulls, the Hawks, and the Heat. Yeah. Those three teams would just always be in the play-in together. But, yeah. Play-in. Who cares? Let's get to the weekend.

15:06PFT Commenter:Let's get to the weekend. We got double playoffs this weekend. It's my favorite weekend of the year. It is? This is your number one weekend of the year? No, no, no. Next week. Next week is your number one weekend? Next two weeks. Are your number one two weeks of the year? I think it's the best sports time of the year. Is the first round of the NBA playoffs? And NHL. NHL, I'll go with. The NBA playoffs first round is not. I mean, I'm excited for the Timberwolves and Nuggets. I would be excited for the Hornets if they played the Pistons. The Hawks, Knicks could be good. I don't know what else I'm excited about.

15:45PFT Commenter:Celtic Sixers. Celtic Sixers could be good, but it will be fast. The Sixers are one-point favorites against the Magic. So they're favorites. Like 55%. That's pretty good, Max. We're not doing percents again. They're favorites. I like the NBA playoffs. The first round of the NBA playoffs can be tough. But combined with the NHL playoffs. Yes, the NHL playoffs first round is awesome. That's what I'm saying. You get double playoffs. Double playoffs. And a lot of games. If you're nimble on the remote, you'll be able to tune in to at least one hockey game and one NBA game per night. That will be exciting.

16:20Yeah. You just have to be on your game.

16:25PFT Commenter:Okay. Anything else on play-ins, playoffs, anything? You see the bullshit they're doing? What? They're all nationally televised games. Oh, yes. So they're taking them off. I did see this. This is bullshit. Off what? Local networks. It used to be local networks got the first round. So like Mike Breen could still do the Knicks games. That is bullshit. That's complete bullshit memes. Those guys go through the whole season. They don't get one playoff game? No, it's a... I forget the stat, but it's the first time ever. First round has been on SMY or MSG since like the 60s. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy.

17:08PFT Commenter:poor Mike Breen Mike Breen should get to call I guess he will end up probably calling a Knicks game I think so but he should get to call a Knicks game with Clyde Frazier and that would have been cool fuck it memes what happened to the Islanders by the way well Frazier I don't know why I said Clyde they just had a bad march they were playing really really really really really really bad okay They were just getting destroyed by every team. They ended up firing their coach. Hired Peter DeBoer to get an early start for next season. To get an early start. Your coach was Patrick Waugh, right? No longer.

17:51How'd he take it? I think fine. He probably couldn't hear that with all the rings in his ears.

17:57PFT Commenter:Yeah, it's true. That would have been funny if you said, I'm not fired. I couldn't hear you. That would have been great. Okay. let's get to you want to do Hot Seat Cool Throne and then we got two awesome interviews coming up sure Hot Seat Cool Throne is brought Hey Illinois, Stell Blue Coffee's new canned lattes are here and in a store near you, crafted with 100 % Colombian coffee, each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream, whether you're braving your morning commute or chasing your pup Stella Blue cans are for those always on the go and for those who care.

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19:51PFT Commenter:Okay. You guys hear about Gout Gout? I did hear about Gout Gout. Gout Gout. Gout Gout's a beast. Gout Gout is next. 18 year old Australian sprint phenom ran a 19.67 in the 200 meter breaking Usain Bolt's record only 18 years old great name he's next he's absolutely now Usain Bolt shaking in his boots I think uh what you say remember what exactly you said you don't respect speed right what that's not what I said that's absolutely not what I said we were talking about sprinting like I don't think sprinting would be that no no we what was the debate it was donald trump or i show speak you know the debate was what was it was it you could run fast but you could only do it on the track and then what was the other side of it swim no was it swim no it wasn't swim does anyone remember this this is gonna drive us nuts i just remember that you no no no because no running fast and i think that running fast would be no pft help me out i don't remember come on i actually don't remember what the debate was.

20:55It was, would you rather run fast? You kept saying, but it's only on a track. Which is why I didn't like it. Because you could only do it on a track. What was the other side, guys? It was some sort of Olympic sport. Come on.

21:06PFT Commenter:Figure skating. Figure skating. That's what it was. Be able to skate really well. Yeah. Now. Sometimes you get caught up in the mood. Yeah. All right. Now that I got the 40 ,000 view of this debate that I got in, yeah, I'll go with speed. Well, this was, it took a guy like Gout to show us how cool it is to be able to run fast on a track. We should do that. 19.67 is so fucking fast. We should do an old debate series in the summer. Just bring up old debates and don't tell us which side we're on and see how. Because, like, you just get caught up. It's like Hank says one thing. I think both of us were like, figure skating, bro.

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21:45PFT Commenter:Zach's staying strong with figure skating back here. Yeah, 100%. I think I was saying, like, I would like to be able to skate for hockey. yeah but then we were I can't remember we kept on putting qualifiers on Hank's side but not on ours we're like you can't just run down the street you have to do it on a track but if you're a great figure skater you could use that skill in a hockey game that's what I was saying I think we just said that figure skating is more fun than running okay yeah we can move on from that debate we can agree to disagree I take it back speed is fun elite balance beats speed 19.67 seconds And Usain Bolt didn't do that until he was 21 years old That's crazy What can he do in the 100 though?

22:30That's where we really start to respect speed Is a 100 yard dash Yeah, that's blinding speed So if he can beat Usain in the 100 Then I'm on board

22:40PFT Commenter:Yeah, it didn't look The race didn't look as Usain Bolt-y Maybe just because the guy that came in second Also was flying and he was a white guy But i'm excited i'm now excited to see i'm excited to follow gout gout in his career just a great name yeah we'll throw i was gonna put gout on my cool throne but i did read that his dad is thinking about changing the pronunciation of their their name back to what it used to be which is guat guat yeah that's the original it's guat guat guat guat guat guat but i don't know i I feel like gout gout now, everybody knows gout gout. You can't take it away, but he's like, I'd prefer that my son not have a name that is also the name of a disease.

23:22But that's fine.

23:24PFT Commenter:Now you know how Corona feels. Yeah. Right. A lot of cool people have gout. Paul Bissonette. Yeah. Large. Large. Yeah. Deutsch. Yep. Deutsch has gout. Yeah. How do you get gout again? Do you just eat too much steak? It's like steak, red wine, alcohol. The disease of kings. Yeah. that's what they used to call it uh and then my cool throne is diego pavia getting ready for the draft i uh and and you know obviously followed him last year i did have the outside view that he was basically just johnny manzel 2.0 the stuff he did the heisman ceremony some very flashy he's fucking hanging out with glennie balls all the time it's like this guy is not not a serious person was my take on him uh and then i watched the full gruden qb camp like youtube hour-long sit down he did with him i'm in love with diego pavia he's got his head on the shoulders to say the least like he's he's a true underdog story like yeah i like that he's he's a great like he's very smart it's crazy his story where it's like he wasn't recruited went to some random you know new mexico tech like military school or whatever yeah dominated there dominated new mexico dominated at vanderbilt like it's a it's a great story and he he's a dog gruden was talking about he's like you know i'm gonna i'm gonna say a name take some hill like what do you think about that he's like i would love that like just get him on a team and he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna do some shit yeah he's gonna do some shit i'm all in on diego pavia i would love him i would love to see him in new england and i just i've never done a 180 more I don't think ever like I was just going into being like it was going to hate this guy that was what I was thinking and then it's like no Gruden like he fucking loved it it was for good reason it was the post Heisman that hurt him yeah the Heisman losing the Heisman then being like fuck the Heisman voters like come on dude and I love bloody balls like one of my favorite people but when it's like he's you know no Diego probably is an absolute dog and he is like the definition of a winner because he didn't go to any He didn't go to any crazy, awesome football factories, but he won everywhere he went.

25:32PFT Commenter:He was a negative four-star recruit. Yeah. Negative four? What do you mean? Bruno's like, were you one-star, two-star? And I don't know if he was joking or if that's a thing. He goes, negative four. Yeah, I think that's probably a joke. But he had zero stars. He had negative four. Zero offers, like nothing. Jeez. All right. Hank, you're a draft pick. I love this Hank. If Hank's on board. I'm diving in. What position would you want to play in New England? Anything. So, hot seat Drake May? No. Oh. Taysom Hill. Like, Taysom Hill and Drew Brees worked great together. Okay. It's like you get him in for packages and then it's like when he comes on the field you get excited.

26:10PFT Commenter:Would his package be like get the ball in his hands? To run? Sometimes. Maybe direct snaps, maybe run. It's like you sometimes throw, sometimes run. You never know what he's going to do. Yeah. It's kind of like a new version of Wildcat. Get him in the slot. Whatever. Flea flicker. He's a little short, but that doesn't matter. Did they bring up his size? Yeah. What did he say? He was just like, I've been short my whole life, and I've played against guys that were taller. I love that. That's a good answer. That's a good answer. It is what it is. Yeah. Okay. You know. Good hot seat, cool throne. Should you get unfairly judged because you're short?

26:49I know, but I think I should be fairly judged because I'm short. Does that make sense? You get, say that again? Yeah, Hank asked me if I should be unfairly judged because I'm short. Like, should you get written off as a podcaster because you're just a little guy? No. No, because I can see over my laptop just fine. So that's good. But, like, if I was playing basketball, I would probably not draft myself early. What about football? If I'm playing football, depends on the position. Now, if you're talking about doing, like, some sort of wild Diego package.

27:20PFT Commenter:Yeah. Then, yeah, maybe you're, like, Darren Sproles. Great running back. behind his offensive line scat back scat back yeah so i'm not gonna unfairly judge him hey we're all the same we're all the same height laying down you know i'm saying yeah i'm gonna judge him a little but i think he's a really good player but i do i do think that height matters for quarterbacks but i again i think he's a good player height does matter right but i i don't care anymore okay okay that's fair i don't think he's i don't think he's gonna i don't think he's gonna be he's like not a top traffic but it's like right he's a guy you want he's a utility you want him in You could do everything.

27:56PFT Commenter:Him being a backup, you could do a lot worse than that because he does have that. This is going to sound like a diss, but I'm using it as a compliment. He has that backup, I can go win a game type of energy. Does he have too much of that to be backup? Does he have too much dog as a backup quarterback? Possibly. You probably got to put a little bit of his dog down. Put a leash on. Yeah. Muzzle. Yeah, just keep him inside. Give him a Kong toy. Yeah, yeah. Give his dog a Kong toy and let him just go. Just like when you go into that quarterback meeting room, cover the ball in peanut butter and just let him sit in the corner licking it for a while.

28:28Yeah. Okay. PFT, your hot seat. Good job, Hank. Very good job. Come prepared.

28:33PFT Commenter:Thanks. My hot seat is Harambe. Oh. Because there's another new gorilla on the block. Happy birthday to the world's oldest gorilla today. Fatou. Fatou? She just turned 69. Whoa. And she's in captivity right now in Berlin. She's like the nicest gorilla ever, apparently. People love her. Yeah, she's in captivity in Berlin. I got a question. What do you mean, captivity, Hank? What do you mean, captivity? Well, she lives in a zoo. I got a question. Yep. What's going on with this war? The apes are warring? Oh, civil war amongst the apes. Yeah. Who's getting the video of that? It's been going on for like 15 years.

29:12PFT Commenter:Who's getting the video? I don't know. How am I seeing these apes running at each other and fighting their two rival Russian gang? You know how the Russian gangs, when it's like 100 dudes versus 100 dudes? Yeah. That's what we're seeing. It's like gangs in New York. It's nuts. Yeah. I don't know. Apparently, that war's been going on for 15 years. Colba. They forgot what they're fighting about. They're just pissed? Yeah. They're just pissed. It's like, we've always been at war with East Asia, and then they just run at each other and kill each other. Respect to them. Do you guys want to know a fun animal fact I learned?

29:45Yeah.

29:46PFT Commenter:Did you know that orcas, all the orcas, like, they're in different pods, and they all eat one thing, and they don't overlap? Isn't that crazy? The Jack Spratt situation. So there's, like, one pod of orcas that only eat salmon and one pod of orcas that only eat, you know, seals. And none of them eat humans. No, there's no recorded footage of a orca trying to eat a human because they just don't. And they just train themselves. Why not? Yeah, because they only eat the one thing and they don't go out of it like they won't go a salmon eating orca. Again, this is also something I read on Twitter, so it might not be true.

30:27PFT Commenter:A salmon eating orca will not go and eat a seal, even if they're dying of hunger. Really? They won't go across. No, it's crazy. The screen, can you change it? I think he's searching stuff, but we can't see it. We just have a beautiful setting, AI's beautiful setting. Yes, it is true that orca pods have unique specialized diets passed down through generations. Different pods often focus on specific prey, such as salmon, seal, or sharks, and may completely ignore other potential food sources. That's kind of cool because it's like the ocean provides enough food for all of us. And they respect each other's turf.

31:02They stick to sports. Right. Yeah.

31:04PFT Commenter:What happens when one pod starts eating humans? that would be a problem that's going to be an issue and we'll have to take that pod out expeditious but they said they saw they documented a pod that was dying of hunger because like the salmon population was low and they would they wouldn't eat the seals it's a very cool thing that the whales do that they're like we can all survive this is the other thing I learned as soon as you take them out and you put them in sea world they will eat humans Hank because now they're taken away from their family they don't live by the rules of the road It gets them angry.

31:37PFT Commenter:They don't eat the humans. They kill them. They just kill them. Yeah, they bit the foot, brought them all the way down, and they drown you. They send a message. They kill for fun. Dude, orcas. I didn't know orcas had it like that. I respect the fuck out of them. Orcas are great. Orcas are bad news. No. What? They don't kill humans. What are you talking about? Orcas are awesome. They're apex predators. They fuck up sharks. Evil as fuck. They should be. All right. We need to get. You know what we need to do? There needs to be. Again, I ask again. if you are starting a new sports franchise, have the uniforms look like Orca whales.

32:09Yeah. Like the Orcas is a fucking badass name. I'm going to say right now.

32:13PFT Commenter:The soccer team sent us that shit. Yeah, but I mean like a real sports team. I agree. Yeah. We need what we need to do. I'll text Malisek right now. We need to get Gruden to do a QB camp with an Orca. And then Hank will all of a sudden be like, these things are awesome. No, it could be a change of pace. Orcas are evil as fuck. They're not. I just told you they don't eat humans, bro. Why do you say they're evil? They are evil. Tilikum. That is one that we put in a jail. But then that fucked up the entire orca ecosystem. No, it didn't. No, he stayed in the jail. No, dude. He died. Hank, in captivity.

32:47PFT Commenter:Hank, what are you talking about? We took an orca prisoner, and we tortured it for decades, and it killed a couple guys. And now you're like, oh, orcas are evil. It's kind of similar to Planet of the Year. Wait, what are you talking about Tilikum? Didn't Tilikum die in captivity? But it had children. Okay, and they're in captivity. Children became evil. No, no, no, no, no, no. They put them out there? Yeah. There is like a - Are you sure? I believe so. Like the pyramid or whatever. Yeah. The coaching tree. Tilikum does have a coaching tree. And it's bad news. Really? Yes. It's coaching tree or a lot of violent orcas.

33:20PFT Commenter:If you want to get depressed, watch Black. It's a documentary worth watching. I don't want to get depressed. But it's fucking depressing. But again, like Tilikum's - Yeah, it spawned a bunch of pissed off orcas, but like with good reason, right? But, again, it's human's fault, but it's basically just - Hank, you watch a lot of Game of Thrones. Is it unusual? Yeah, you watch a lot of Game of Thrones. Is it unusual for the children and grandchildren of a certain family, like the Baratheons, to hate the Lannisters and shit like that? Yeah, they're just trying to get justice. Yeah. If we made you do handstands and push-ups for your dinner for two decades, you'd be pissed, too.

33:55PFT Commenter:Oh, great point, Zach! It's human's fault, but, like, orcas are bad news. No, they aren't. No, they're great news. I'm telling you, they live by a code that is so strict. They would never... I could drop you in the ocean right now in front of an entire pack of orcas. They wouldn't touch you, dude. I disagree. They'd probably form a raft and bring you back to land. No, they wouldn't because you're not salmon or seals. They would bump you up. I think it's just the Tilikum. No, it had some offspring that were bad news. As of 2026, four humans have died due to interactions with orcas. because Tilikum was involved in three of those deaths.

34:31PFT Commenter:Yeah, so it's Tilikum. Yeah, but it's spawn, Tilikum's children. But where are they? Tilikum's children are out in the wild? Who do you spawn with? It might be a little unfair, too, to look sideways at the children of Tilikum and be like, you're probably like your old man. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's got a lot. How many kids does he have? Is Tilikum the one that Jim Irsay tried to save? No, that's a different one that he tried to Fly across the country He would have done it too If it wasn't for all the orca haters like Hank It is fucked up These guys are smart They put them in a fucking jail cell It's messed up We could learn a lot from orcas Oh shit, Hank has a Tilikum family tree Wait, what is this?

35:18PFT Commenter:But is it all deaths? No, neither is still alive But they didn't kill anyone you just hate you just hate the kids because tilcom was arrested tilcom's offspring have shown that the aggressive instincts of transient orcas have passed down through generations you know what this is you know this is big cat this is kim jong hank this is what they do in north korea you you screw up and then they take three generations of your family lock them in a work camp this is fucked up hank this is fucked up dude i said i'm on get here what are we on i'm on team orca uh i was just saying uh uh happy birthday to fatu oh yeah that's right the 69 year old gorilla the gorilla okay she seems like a real sweetheart so uh shout out to to her for two uh then my cool throne is true love because the dallas wings uh drafted yes ozzy fudd and she was a player at yukon she was page becker's girlfriend she is page becker's girlfriend Yep.

36:19So now two number one picks living together, working together in Dallas. It's so funny whenever this happens in the WNBA.

36:29PFT Commenter:So we had this debate on Wake Up Barstool with Che. I think it's bad. I do too. Yeah, I think it's bad. I don't know why you'd want to work every day with your partner, and especially in a locker room setting too. That's the part that makes it a little weird. Sometimes you want to go home after a long day at work, and you get to talk to your spouse about, here's something that happened at work today that you don't know about already. I think it's good in the fact that, like, good for their relationship, that they get to live together and don't have to, you know, travel to see each other all the time, but bad in the fact that there's...

37:02PFT Commenter:Being a rookie in the WNBA and then also having to navigate, oh, you're the franchise player, you're dating the franchise player in the locker room and all that stuff. Did you also see the backfire that the WNBA commissioner had? Yeah, when she... Well, it was a backfire to her backfire. She tried to backfire it on the reporter. Right. Because the reporter asked her about her job security. Yep. And then she said, I'd like to know if you would ask that same question of a man. And everyone was like, yeah, all the time. Because you stink at your job. Yeah. Every time a man sucks at their job, coach, commissioner, whatever, they get asked that.

37:36Yeah. They weren't asking you to smile more while you sucked at your job. They were just saying, hey, you were terrible at running this league. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's a nice story for them. They're probably happy right now that they get to live in the same city and work for the same team. I think it's going to be a nightmare on the team. Agreed. I think it's going to be bad news on the team. Agreed. Also, if you're Paige, you probably don't mind looking at some of the ladies on the team every now and again. Now you can't do that anymore. Nope. I think it's bad news. I mean, Hank, how are things going to work out with you and your boyfriend, and Diego Pavia, both rooting for the Patriots.

38:13What? You're going to be upset at each other all the time? What? Okay, I was just making fun of you for liking Diego Pavia.

38:19PFT Commenter:Yeah, I also just don't like Ozzie Fudd because I bet on her in the final four and she was so bad. She played really bad, and that's all it takes. That'll stick with you. It's that easy. Yeah, but I think it's a good story. I think it'll be bad. And I like Pagie Buckets. She's awesome. Okay, my hot seat is, I have two. The first is Todd Haley. Okay. Have you guys seen a picture of Todd Haley? I can't say that I have in the last six months. So Todd Haley is a coach on the Aviators? Is that a team name? Yeah. Columbus, maybe? Coach. Go to my Twitter, Max. He's a coach in one of the leagues. That's Todd Haley right now.

39:05PFT Commenter:Look at this guy. Dude, his hair is banging. He's got little Rob Ryan in him. Yeah. I was shocked when I saw that was Todd Haley. So, yeah, Todd Haley. Todd Haley used to be kind of like a sex figure, you know? It still is. What do you mean he used to be? Yeah. Look at that dude. But he is different. Todd Haley, he's out there. I don't really know what else to say. Looks good. He looks great. He's a real football guy. Did you see there was like a walk-off penalty in the UFL? over the weekend. I think it's like if you get two penalties on a conversion in overtime or something, it counts as a score.

39:45Yeah. And so, yeah, the refs just called conversion good. It was a walk-off. That's awesome.

39:50PFT Commenter:Yeah. Okay, then my other hot seat is AI videos. Did you guys happen to see the AI video of Rory McIlroy getting his green jacket, then Tiger Woods driving a Range Rover up the 18th fairway and then crashing it? is that real was that a real video it was actually ai okay and for a second there it looked real i saw a lot of those on the first tee it was like now driving yeah jack nicholas and then tiger woods driving a buick so yeah yeah i bring it up because um jay williams has decided to take a stand finally with ai thank god we were waiting for jay williams what not not rj williams jay williams duke We were all waiting for him to finally pick a side.

40:35PFT Commenter:He has. He said, mocking Tiger Woods with AI isn't entertainment. It's exploitation. Add stolen PGA and CBS footage and it becomes theft. That's a real man with real kids and a real family. Platforms need to take it down now. Okay. Thank you, Jay Williams. Okay. That was the most narky tweet of all time being like, oh, and also CBS and PGA. Why is this the one that was too far for him? I don't know. It's crazy. But now Jay Williams, he's just going to get AI'd all the time. Well, to Jay Williams credit, this might not have been Jay Williams that tweeted. This might be the guy that hacks into his account once every like four years.

41:13And tweets about Adoka. And tweets something really embarrassing. Yeah. And then he has to like get back into his account afterwards. Wow. I can't believe that's AI.

41:24PFT Commenter:Tiger runs away. He's wearing his Sunday red. For me, it's more about stealing the intellectual property of CBS Sports. Yeah. that's the real crime listen i'm not a big fan of ai but when it's so blatantly ai who the fuck cares you know what i mean yeah it is kind of classless of tiger to upstage rory like that while drinking whiskey yeah that's how we know it's a ai well he wasn't drinking blue blue triple zero yep um all right and then my uh cool throne i also had love so shout out to page uh beckers and Ozzy Fudd. Also, Cool Throne. Us. Sabres? See what they did to Whitney? What'd they do? Put him on a billboard.

42:07PFT Commenter:Was that AI? Let me see. Let me see. He said 0.0 % chance that Buffalo makes the playoffs. Oh, no. He put that on a billboard with his face on it. Oh, no. Whit. You can't have that happen. You know what he's got to do? He's got to just put it on a billboard and be like, remember when Biz said he was going to get a circumcision and didn't? Mm-hmm. Buffalo is not making the playoffs 0.00000. That's very funny. Hey, they're talking about wit, right? Wit lives rent free. Rent free. Is this a real billboard? Yeah, I think it's one of those ones that can digitally change constantly. Oh, man. That's awesome.

42:47PFT Commenter:No, this podcast and space, we are on the cool throne. so nasa ran a study on what it takes to be a good astronaut do you guys have um an idea of what the one trait that they said was actually like extremely important being able to sit for long periods of time nope okay hank any idea no podcasting a sense of humor okay how crazy is So this was a study. Perhaps the most important insight NASA has gleaned from studying team dynamics in space and on Earth is the preciousness of one trait in particular, a sense of humor. Studies of cruise overwhelming at the South Pole showed that a overwintering at the South Pole showed that a confined group needs people to fulfill various roles, including leader, storyteller and social secretary.

43:44PFT Commenter:but the most important task by far is that of the clown a person who's funny and also wise enough to understand each member of the group and diffuse tensions laughter as much as courage will sustain astronauts under a long quest to mars you just need a fucking locker room you need a good hang yeah that's all this is this is just you need that going back to like talking about a backup you need a backup quarterback's personality sick we could be astronauts unless you don't think we're funny which yeah fair enough who think that i bet i bet the tennis podcast could go to Jupiter. Absolutely. Zach, Hatsi Kultron.

44:18PFT Commenter:We're back with beefing these female podcast streets on my hot seat. Yeah. Alex Earl. Alex's. Double Alex. The girls are fighting. Going head to head. One with an I, one with an E. Different spelling, but they're definitely beefing. Alright, so whose side are we on? We have to be very careful about this. And is there a chance they make out? Oh, I've got no clue about that, but I don't even know. It might be too early to pick a side because they're just getting passive aggressive right now. I'm going to go with Alex. My understanding is the fight is about the fact that they are going to have a fight, but no one's talking about what they're fighting about.

44:52It's like ramping up for the fight. So the Hot Met, Alice Earls probably got dropped off the Unworn Network last year, and then she got picked up by Brady. And then now... By the Brady Network? Yeah. Let's go with Jim Gray. Picked back up. Brady Inc. And they're just beefing over passive-aggressive tweets and likes, but then Alice Cooper's coming back over top like, Like, hey, listen, girl, you better get to the point. What's going on here? Tell the truth or nothing. And I'm just kind of excited to see where this goes. Yeah. I kind of want to be a fist fight.

45:21PFT Commenter:Hank, who do you like? We need Alex Earl to drop. And then we can make a decision? Which, if you're listening to this podcast on Wednesday and Alex Earl has not dropped, then Cooper won. Oh, you should tweet that right now. You should tweet at Alex Earl and be like, you have 24 hours. Well, no, I do not drop in 24 hours. Alex Cooper made a video being like. Spill, right? Like spill the team forward and Alex Earl come commented and said, OK, on it. This was on Monday. So if you basically called out, if I'm like PFT fucking come at me, bro. And you say I'm on it and it takes you two full days. like the year I've already won.

46:11That's short-sighted, though, because we remember we had that exact same conversation like a year and a half ago, and we're like, Kendrick Lamar is probably never going to come out with another song again. And then he had like three in a row that he dropped.

46:22PFT Commenter:You guys mind if I ask a question? Yeah, please. We have done a bad... I have no idea what's going on in this fight. I have no idea what they're fighting about. Is it IP? All right, so here's... You want to go? You want me to go? I watched her video and Dave's video. Alex Cooper I'm an expert Left Barstool Started Unwell Network A podcasting brand Whatever Media She's a megastar Alex Earl Was already a huge The biggest Number one TikToker Going last year She had her own podcast She signed to The Unwell Network So Alex and Alex Alex Earl's podcast Got signed to The Unwell Network There was apparently Infighting that happened No one knows What happened But it was a short lived stint on the unwell network she left never really discussed and then recently like she would repost vague things kind of talking shit very uh passive aggressive about alex cooper yeah then over the weekend she reposted a video from a tiktoker calling alex cooper a ambulance chaser and basically telling her followers why alex cooper was bad news that was the that's a that That was a shot across the bow.

47:37She's an ambulance chaser, but for trauma.

47:40PFT Commenter:Yeah. Like if you go through a bad breakup, Alex Cooper will be calling you in the next couple of days to talk about it. And Alex Earl reposted that, which then basically forced Alex Cooper's hand to be like, if you want to talk shit, say it to my face via your own social media. Could Alex Earl just drop a video and just be like, I'm hotter than you? I don't think so. I should get my vote. But then Alex Cooper would just do a podcast about how she got bullied. And Alex Cooper could then be like, I'm richer than you. Yeah. Yeah, but hotness is a pretty big trump card. I think. Rich, I guess, but she could also make a lot of money.

48:17PFT Commenter:She's younger, right? Alex Earl's younger considerably. Yeah. National Sports Podcast. Fake though, Alex Cooper. We could use this moment to remind everybody that Alex Cooper might not exist in the same way that she does now were it not for Tom Lay. True. Super producer here at Bar School Sports. He was her producer on Call Her Daddy. Him and Mooj wrote like most of their episodes, word for word, bar for bar, just got completely washed out of the history that Alex has written about herself. And Chef Donnie. And Chef Donnie. Alex Cooper also once told me I had a tiny dick, and she wasn't wrong.

48:54PFT Commenter:She had tiny dick energy. She didn't see my dick. She once told me I had a huge dick, and she was wrong. She was probably more wrong about me. So, yeah, that's our Alex Cooper talk. I've never met Alex Earl. Me neither. They all seem nice. Yeah. They all seem like good hangs. Can't the Alex just get together and have fun? Who are you picking? If they're going to combat or just in the hotness, whatever you want. I would say Alex Cooper probably clears. Okay. In all facets? Yeah, all facets. Wow. Girl boss. Yeah, girl boss. Yeah. Okay. Well, that was a good national sports podcast. What's your cool throne?

49:30PFT Commenter:My cool throne this week is going to be the Artemis 2 recovery team. Did you guys see the video from the Pacific Ocean? Yes. That was awesome. Just dudes getting in there, opening hatch, dapping up. Like, yeah, boys, we made it back from space. You see this? I didn't think they really went, but after I saw that video, I think they went. I was poo-pooing space because I do want to go to Mars. I do want to go to moon. Watching this video and being like, holy shit, these people are sitting on a boat. And like two days ago, they were so far away. it's pretty awesome i also think that that getting a hatch opened on you would be one of the all-time most relieving feelings apparently the hatch on apollo 11 they smelled so bad in there that like the crew threw up everywhere and couldn't couldn't it was like the most disgusting i love it i know it smelled crazy in there yeah i guess they figured that out they got like one of those trees yeah no i mean it does seem like a a really nice way to come back home also don't you grow when you're up in space i feel like you you get a little bit taller oh i think your vertebrae's do because you're really compressed here on earth the gravity's got to like kind of just like open you up a little bit your spine decompresses so maybe pre-draft diego pavia go up to space for a little bit was the helicopter necessary it feels like they could have just gone boat to boat helicopter might have been artistry so i go grab the boys right yeah that was a boat to boat was it not like they had a boat go meet them at the pod and then helicopter them to the other boat If you have all these cool toys, you want to use them.

50:57PFT Commenter:There's a boat right there. Could have just walked on the boat. Yeah. I think it was cool seeing the stuff that they filmed from outer space too. Yeah, it was. And for all the people, I know I said this maybe last week on the pod that I feel bad for flat earthers because there was just so much content that came out of the earth not being flat. I've kind of done a 180 on that. I think that there's so much content that came out there. There's a whole bunch of new lore. Yeah. Like the flat earthers have so much material to work with right now and stuff to pick through with the fine tooth comb that I think they're probably having the time of their lives.

51:30Oh, definitely.

51:31PFT Commenter:Flat earthers stay undeterred. Yeah. I think that's the number one sign of being a flat earther is no new evidence will get you off of what you believe. They got to explain Antarctica first. Yeah. Good point. True. It's kind of like Skip Bayless and LeBron. Yeah. It's like you're never going to stop fucking that chicken. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Okay. Good hot seat. Cool throne, boys. let's get to our interviews we got joe mazula and kyle long in studio before we get to coach joe mazula he's brought to you by reese's some fans believe in teams of destiny i believe everything happens for reese's just think about it what is the one thing every team or athlete wants a championship why because half of them are called cups stanley world rider just like reese's luckily scoring a reese's cup is way easier than winning a championship it's almost like you were destined to get one right now because everything happens for a Reese's.

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53:18PFT Commenter:missoula okay we now welcome on a very very very very very special guest and very good friend recurring guest of the program it is boston celtics head coach joe missoula coach good to see you great to see you sorry it's been too long yeah i know it has been too long we wanted to start with something special we've never done this before but we did a straw poll we did a voting before you joined us today and you have won hold on let me read this the results of the poll oh yeah there it is okay you are officially the first ever pardon my take coach of the year congratulations it's a real award it's a 100 % real award first ever do you accept it's the first ever PMT Coach of the Year Award?

54:09Yep, correct. Sure is. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, I accept it. Okay, great.

54:13PFT Commenter:Great. That's awesome. Hell yeah. I mean, you're calling it the most prestigious Coach of the Award in history. Yeah. I mean, this morning I was going through the season and I was looking at what we talked about on media day and our goals, and this was at the top of the list, and so I can only thank the people at PMT, and I don't know what I'm going to do from here because now that I got this, my life goals have been achieved. And now I just have a sense of emptiness. That's an awesome speech. Wait, but are you not going to thank your players at all? They're probably going to be upset when they find out that you didn't thank them when you won PMT Coach of the Year.

54:51I mean, this one's going up. As soon as you walk into the Outback Center, it's going up right in the front. We're moving all our Reds awards, and we're putting this one right there.

55:02PFT Commenter:I like the idea of Coach Mizzoula, like his press conference before round one, and he's getting he's a little like sad and a reporter's like what's up and he's like i just got nothing left to achieve like i don't know if you heard but i won pmt coach of the year i don't even know where i go from here the rest of the day i would love to see one person win an award and just say that like they win an oscar for best actor and they're like yeah that's it i mean i don't know what yeah i'm done here thank you guys you know what i'll give you something to look forward to every year in july we do the takey awards you could still win italian coach of the year.

55:33Oh, yeah. So that one's still hanging out there. You got some competition. That one's going to come with, like, to me, you have to, like, that one's going to come with probably a suit. Yeah. An Armani suit. You know, I got to take it to another level if I'm up for that one. Yeah. I mean, Patino's nominated this year, and he's going to be tough to beat.

55:52PFT Commenter:Patino's nominated. Calipari's nominated. Also, we have the takey for most likely to be choked out of the year. It's you versus Zuckerberg. That's going to be tight. Like, there's a lot of stuff still that you can win. Where is – first of all, Italian coach of the year, that's tough. I don't know if I could pull off the white suit. Slick Rick is – he takes it to another level. Yeah, he does. He's nice. Yeah. I think he's – I mean, he's the Don. He's the grandfather of it all. So I'll wait my turn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where is Zuckerberg in his training, you think? I don't know. I think he's one of those guys.

56:25He has to register his arms as lethal weapons. Yeah. He can't touch anybody in public or else he can get arrested. Yeah.

56:30PFT Commenter:Did you see that? Do you remember the story that came out where he had to like, I think it was like the New York Times is like, just so everyone's clear, he did not get choked out. Yeah. Like he had to clarify. It's like, well, clearly you got choked out, dude. If you had to actually put this out there saying, hey, stop saying I got choked out. I didn't get choked out. I got choked out twice yesterday morning before the game. So, I mean, that's par for the course. Did you really? Wait. So, I know we've talked to you in the past about, you know, like some of the jujitsu that you do and like how it teaches you to like unlock a different level.

57:03How do you go back after you get choked out once? How do you say, you know what, that's not enough. I want to get choked out again before the game. I mean, I think it's just like it's just it's a it simulates the playoffs. It simulates the regular season. It simulates competition. Like, you know, if you're going to go, you know, and train and fight like you have to when you're going after something, you know greatness and success and winning you have to be able to accept the other side of that which is losing getting choked out and it's like to me it's more about who you are when you get choked out like you know do you like just curl up into a ball and you know start bitching and crying about it and like quit that round or are you like no like I actually want more of that and I'm going to try to get to another level and and you have to take on you know those risks so to me it's the best simulation of the playoffs is uh everybody always focuses on like the goal the the journey and going after success.

57:53But when you want to go after something, if you're not aware and can't surrender to the fact that you could fail at it, then I don't, I don't think you're really on the journey, you know? Yeah. No. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's yesterday's game. I needed to be at a different mind frame. Like, you know, I credit our guys, those guys that play yesterday, it was, it was one of the most fun games I've ever coached. And I love how the guys brought the mindset that they brought, but like I needed to enter the garden, you know, in a different mindset. So that I had to, that had to happen yesterday.

58:22PFT Commenter:I was going to ask about that game because you're playing in a game, game 82, nothing to play for. You're locked in your seed. It's a lot of the backup guys, and they played their asses off, and they beat a team that actually had something to lose. The Magic did lose out on having a home play-in game and all that stuff. Was it going into it, it just never even crossed your mind that we're like, we don't do this tanking stuff. we're just going as hard as we can. We're trying to win this game. I think it never crossed my mind. I thought it was, I thought like that type of mindset could be disrespectful to the players and disrespectful to the staff.

58:59I think, you know, what we try to create and I really think yesterday was a culmination of like the identity of this team and who these guys are as players is like whoever's playing, we have to go out there with a chance to win. And for some of the guys on the roster, they're looking for opportunities to prove that they can impact winning and that all the work they do when no one's watching is getting better. And I think it's the same for like our assistants and our player development staff. Like these guys put in more time when no one's watching on getting players better. If you don't treat yesterday as the absolute most important game, I think you're doing a disservice to the, to the players.

59:31You're doing a disservice to the process of like main, our development team, the process of the two way you know, our two ways, the process of our player development guys, you're just doing a disservice to it. So we approach that game as like we have a chance to win, because we're wearing Celtic jerseys and everybody's put a ton of time into this. So it was a credit to those guys. It's a credit to our staff. And we got to take that momentum of like our togetherness and get ready for the playoffs.

59:57PFT Commenter:It kind of was a perfect like microcosm for your season. I want to go back to the beginning of the season and ask you if there was a moment that maybe you had a light bulb moment with the team or kind of kicked their ass and been like, hey, we're better than this. Because starting the season, I think a lot of people were like, Like, hey, the Celtics might just be bad this year because Tatum's not playing. And you start 0-3. And you start kind of like puttering around, you know, 500 for the first month or so. And then you guys kicked it into Overtrive and start ripping off wins. You're like, oh, no, this team is still really good.

1:00:30PFT Commenter:Was there that moment of practice, a game where you're like, hey, what are we doing? Just because Tatum's out doesn't mean you guys still aren't a really good team. You know, I think, one, we got off – I never – you know, the first 20 games are really your testament And I think, you know, one, your record, it may not be a reflection of the team that you're about to become, you know. And so I loved how we approached training camp. I think, you know, our guys came back hungry. I think Jalen came back with a chip on his shoulder. I think we all came back with an understanding of like, we're going after this.

1:01:03We're going to go try to be the best that we could be. So I was very confident in training camp. But I think a little, you know, I think the season gives you like small gut check moments. We were 0-3 and sitting in that locker room in New Orleans of like, this is a must-win game. And that was a small gut-check moment for us. You know, it was like, hey, like, we're 0-3. We've shown signs of what we can become. But at the end of the day, this isn't good enough. And we got to make a decision on like what we want to be. And so we were sitting in the locker room together in New Orleans and like, this is a must-win game.

1:01:31And, you know, we have to learn how to take it to a different level. And I thought the guys did that. And even when we were, you know, 500, we were still showing signs of like, this is who we're going to become. And, you know, it's a credit to the guys. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's it really is because I think a lot of people saw, you know, the injury and they thought this year might be might be a year that you would punt. I never thought that the Celtics and you in particular would ever would ever punt on the season. But has it surprised you in terms of Tatum's health, how quickly that turned around?

1:02:01Like we think of an Achilles as being, you know, a year long, maybe two year long injury to come back from. At what point did you think it was realistic that he would make it back? Well, it's two things. One, like for the team coming in, it does not, you know, I can't say that like the expectation is to go 56 and 26 or whatever every year. But the process of how we played and who we became as a team did not surprise me one bit because of the people that we have, like the character, the competitive character that we have in our players. You know, with Jalen, with Derek, with Peyton, with Sam, with Nimi, like we've had guys that have impacted winning and like care about winning.

1:02:39And I thought, you know, JB helped us get off to a great start just by taking this opportunity as a chip on the shoulder. And like he's at his best when he's doing that. Right. And for me, I knew we were going to, you know, go after this thing the day JT decided to get surgery. I was like, oh, he's serious. Like, I don't think you can, you know, talk about his mental toughness enough of like some guys waited two weeks. Some guys waited 10 days like he waited 18 hours. And so I knew at that point, you know, I knew that we were going to just continue to chip away at that and kind of the journey that he went on.

1:03:14And then as we started to get closer, you know, we were really growing as a team. And it's like, hey, you know, here's where we're at as a team. We can go after this thing. and then we get whole and we develop our identity. And, you know, I think we have a chance. So, again, everybody had to take it to a different level mentally. Yeah. I'm just curious if that was like a closely guarded secret that he was going to come back. Because I remember there would be videos of him like in the gym that would come out every week and people would start to speculate on how good he looked, how healthy he looked.

1:03:44Was that something that you guys tried to keep as close to the vest as possible? No, we just didn't know. You can say you know in your heart or in your mind you have an idea, but you still don't know because obviously you're dealing with something that is very complex and it's an injury that can have not only physical but mental, emotional and things that you have to get through. In the bottom, bottom of our heart, we knew, but at the end of the day, you never want to take a day for granted or you never want to take rehab for granted in the process of coming back because it's complex and there's a lot that goes into it.

1:04:16PFT Commenter:Yeah. Did you the quote when they you know, I'm sure it wasn't fun going to the press conferences every day and having people ask you over and over, like, what's going on with Jason Tatum? What's going on with Jason Tatum? Was the quote that you dropped when you said, I might not be alive. I go to bed questionable and I wake up probable. Was that off the cuff or were you do you say that all the time? You say it's your kids. I say I say I mean, there's a lot of I mean, there's a lot of spiritual context to that. And I kind of we talk about that every day with our family and our kids. And I think, you know, there's more to that than that.

1:04:49And so I kind of use that as a reference. I think at the end of the day, like you just can't assume that you can't take life for granted. You can't take stuff for granted. You just can't assume that, like, you're going to be able to go after things. You're going to be able to achieve things like you've got to have the mentality and the presence of like this is the present moment. Have gratitude and a perspective for it because you never know. So quite honestly, at that time, I was really thinking about that. And it was on my heart because one of my close friends who helped me get into coaching, he was on a golf trip with his with his son.

1:05:20And he went to bed at 7 p.m. to get up for a golf trip and he never got back up. And so I was kind of like one, I was talking to myself. I was I was kind of processing that. And you just can't take stuff for granted like that. So there was a lot more that went into it. But I thought it also applied to that.

1:05:37PFT Commenter:You just Cena'd us. Good job. You John Cena'd us. What is that? Your quote was objectively very funny that you go to bed doubtful and you wake up probable. And then it turns out that there's a very deep, somber, sad story behind it. So now we can't make a joke about it anymore. So John Cena, we famously had him on. We've had him on a couple of times. The last time we had him on was like four or five years ago. And we asked him a question about he had. There was an internet rumor that he died. and everyone eulogized him for like a day and it was it was and i asked him essentially like how awesome is that that you got to basically watch everyone talk about how great of a guy you are and he was like i don't find it funny because i had a friend die last week like that's not funny and we're just like okay well that's well i mean i will say like i mean i guess we could kind of turn this we could go full circle in a humorous thing if people spend one second worried about the day that I'm not around anymore.

1:06:31Shame on them. Yeah. I mean, you know, like that's just...

1:06:34PFT Commenter:I'm sitting in a second. I mean, you're a great guy. Yeah. After, all right, one second. After that, it's like... Okay. Time to move on. I got a good segue here. What's for lunch? Yeah. I got a good segue with the Cena thing. I don't think I've ever seen you happier than when you were at the WWE match and you were fake hitting Derek White in the face. I mean, that's... Is that fair to say that that's... was that better than winning an NBA title? I mean, to me, you know, everyone has a different love language. My love language is, like, violence. And I never felt more connected to Derek. The only thing I regret was, like, I almost flipped him over the wall, like, into Michael Cole on the table.

1:07:16I thought we could have just sold it and took it further. If it was the offseason, I think we'd take that further.

1:07:22PFT Commenter:That was exactly my take when I saw it. I was like, I know the coach wishes he could be going harder at Derek White here. You also – so wait, were you a big wrestling fan growing up? I was. And so, like, you know, that was a cool moment because my dad took me to the Providence Civic Center for Monday Night Nitro. I was, like, eight, nine years old. And I cried the entire time because I was so scared sitting that close. And it was, like, different back then because I felt like it was, like, more violent back then. Oh, yeah. Like, it was like – like, Les Luger was, like, four feet from me. and I was like, this guy is massive.

1:07:55Yeah. And so, like, it was a cool moment to take my kids there because, you know, my dad did that for me. And so I was, you know, a fan growing up. But that, what I was doing to Derek is the ultimate sign of love. I mean, I love that. If we could do that to each other more, I think we'd all be nicer.

1:08:12PFT Commenter:I'd agree. Were you a Stone Cold or a rock guy? I was a rock. Bad answer. That's okay. You don't remember, like, going to school and people asking stuff and you just cut them off. Oh, yeah. I gave out so many stunners. I love Stone Cold. Stone Cold was the best. Yeah, doing the people's elbow on a kid in the hallway. It was very fun. Absolutely. Yes. In between classes, you're at gym and a guy is like, you catch him sleeping, you hit him with a rock bottom. Yeah. What did your teachers think about you? Were you a good student? There's no way they liked me. too intense there's no way they liked me no they couldn't have liked me i can name i think i can name every teacher in elementary school and middle school and i think everyone i can name also why they would be like this guy is just like i can't why why am i putting up with this kid yeah i would never think of you as being a bad student i feel like you're eager to learn like you like to learn new things you like to you like to expand your horizons a little bit i was ornery i was just i I was just like constantly – I just couldn't sit still.

1:09:22So I was always just doing something ridiculous. Yeah, that's actually Hank. Hank is the exact same way. You guys peas in a pod. One guy that you've been learning from – this is a great transition – Pep Guardiola. We talked a little bit about him last year. But I think your friendship has kind of grown over the years to the point where you're like adopting some of his soccer strategies for basketball. Can you just like talk a little bit about that and like how you've used some of the things that he's implemented? I mean, first of all, you guys are great at transitions. I think we've had some great transitions.

1:09:53Great transitions. Thank you. That's what they say about this. Transition offense. We are pro-transition. Transition offense, the margins. Like, we're winning on that right now, transitioning from topic to topic, and we haven't missed a beat. So I think you're learning from Pep as well. Yeah. There we go. But, you know, I think the sports are very similar. You know, they're both free-flowing games. I mean, they're both games where, like, everybody on the field has to have an impact offensively and defensively. I think, you know, the more basketball is changing to reads and and the players are so smart and so skilled, like everything is a read and everything is a transition.

1:10:25Right. And, you know, he's taught me how, you know, offense can impact your defense, how defense can impact your offense, how to disguise your best players and and get them to do different things, whether it's cutting and screening and have them hide and find ways to get better. Like, I think he's just – his brain is tremendous at that, and I think you're kind of seeing that. They got a chance to win this year. So just his mind and how he thinks the game has allowed me to open up my mind and how I think basketball. And when I watch soccer, I kind of look at basketball and vice versa.

1:10:55PFT Commenter:Yeah. Have you thought about having any of your players start flopping? I mean, there was – we had a couple good ones last night on illegal screens, I'd say. Oh, yeah. Speaking of, how many times did you say illegal screen in that one press conference. And also, are your kids of an age yet? Because I would imagine there's a little bit of spillover. Like if I were your son or daughter, I would just hit you with that when it's like, hey, time to go to bed and just hit dad with a legal screen. My wife is at her wits end in our household because she has three kids, me and our two boys, and we are exactly the same.

1:11:31Like if she's arguing with me, our oldest or our youngest, We have the same mannerisms, the same look, the same like, you know, passive aggressive, like sarcastic. No, you're right. No, absolutely. I was wrong. Yeah. So she's she's at her wit's end with the house. They take on my personality and it's not going well.

1:11:50PFT Commenter:Three little Joe Mazzullo. So, all right. Can you imagine that? Like, can you imagine? I can't. No, I can't. That's God bless her. Do you think you could be married to yourself? Absolutely not. No. No. I'm not hot enough. No. My middle child, my daughter, she's got a little bit of my troll energy. And just one having that, I'm like, this is a lot. She'll troll me back. I'll be like, what the fuck? How did you? This is not right. You're four. How are you trolling me? So, yeah, three Joe Mazzullis in one house. The illegal screen, though, that was a great press conference. what happens afterwards when like your PR staff or you know your head of communication do they say anything like hey uh can we stop doing that or they're just like you crushed it man you said 500 times I'm a lost cause at this point they just they go they go into every conference like I just hope this guy makes it that's great I'm a lost cause no one can help me you can't save me now at this point yeah it was a great guy they also have no idea like because I'll play it off Like they don't know what I'm thinking or what I'm going to do.

1:12:59And so they're like, they're on eggshells.

1:13:02PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. You should, you should, you should kind of reverse it on them. Keep them on their toes in some, in like some press conference, just randomly just be the most, like the nicest guy, most gregarious, give like the longest answers. Do like an hour press conference, thanking everyone. Just keep them on their toes. I know you have to, I do, I do a lot of that behind closed doors. Keep people on their toes. Like, like how you talk about, like you have a little troll on you. I have a little like, I'm just testing you mentally. See where you're at. Just see if you can handle it. I like that.

1:13:32Do you do that with your players? Just behind the scenes, a little test here and there? They do it to me more, I would imagine. Yeah. I think they like doing it to me. After the illegal screen press conference, I think that's all Hank said during part of my take. Anytime we'd ask him a question. It could have been about football. He'd just be like, illegal screen. Just getting in line. Well, I mean, the goal is to be like as creative as you can without getting fined. Yeah, that's true. Have you thought about how can you get your point across? How can you push the line and the button as far as possible without getting fine?

1:14:09That's the goal. Yeah, I would think like talking in pig Latin or doing just the copying game where you just repeat the questions back to the reporters. I'm not the one staring at me. Yeah, that might be next on the list. I've got a game that we play with every coach. this is an anonymous NBA player said this and I'd like to hear your reaction we call it anonymous sources look at Joe Mazzulla he had so many opportunities this season to make excuses but never did he realized what he had in his players and everything about my next decision is based on winning that's an anonymous player who might be looking for a new team next year what would you think about an anonymous player that said something like that to me it's like My biggest goal is every player on our team.

1:14:56I hope they say something like that. And I think in this world today, it's easy. I think coaches get both too much credit and too much blame. And my number one goal is to always highlight our players. Because even like yesterday, somebody asked me a question of like, what does it say about you that your team was able to perform like this today? And it's like it says nothing about me. Like I didn't score one basket. I didn't I didn't dribble the ball up the floor. I didn't get one stop. I didn't do anything. And, you know, the reason why I got into the NBA was to develop relationships with guys, you know, with with guys, you know, at different levels and to work together to bring the best out of each other.

1:15:37So, you know, when I hear a comment like that, I think that's that's what you're going towards and building a culture and building an environment. and you know anytime someone hears or thinks something like that I want them to think of our guys because uh they're the ones that give me the opportunity to coach every day they don't have to listen to me they don't have to buy in they don't have we don't have to do this uh but they give me that gift and you know they go out there every day and compete so I'm grateful for the guys that we have and I hope every player that plays for the Celtics and plays for us uh says

1:16:07PFT Commenter:that yeah just so you know the the reason why coaches get so much of the blame is because we're really stupid and we have to find things that we think we know like oh he used the timeout at the wrong time or he shouldn't have challenged that those type of things that's where we can we can be like yeah coach so stupid for doing that you know what's crazy though and as people ask like when we win is when I feel like I make the most mistakes and it happened the other day um I forgot what game it was but I kind of challenged too fast and we ended up losing a challenge and a timeout. And so like we were down timeouts going into halftime and fortunate enough, it was a Charlotte game and fortunate enough, they called both timeouts in the third quarter.

1:16:47But I like I had put my team at a disadvantage because I had I had kind of jumped the gun too fast on something that I thought I was right on. But it gets washed away because we won the game and we were winning and stuff like that. But like, you know, I think as a coach, you have to go back and say, regardless of the result, like I messed this up and it just went it just got swept under the rug because we won. And so that's the perfect example of like, you could lose and coach a great game and you could win and coach a shitty game.

1:17:14PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. Is there a guy on your team that is like when they, because pretty much in the NBA, every single time there's a 50 50 call, the player will immediately go to the bench and be like, challenge it. Is there one guy who does that? And you're like, I'm never listening to you. I know you're not going to be right. Derek. Okay. Yeah, because it is true. If you challenged every single time a player asked for a challenge, there would be 75 challenges a game. Yeah, so I like what baseball has done. I think there could be coaches' challenge and then players' challenge. Yeah. You should actually find the player.

1:17:51PFT Commenter:You should do an internal find of the players. Like, if you tell me to challenge it and we get it wrong, I'm finding you. There's also, like, the spite challenge. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's just in football where it's like, I'm mad. I wish that didn't happen, so I'm going to challenge it. Yeah. And hope that, like – I would say one of my greatest strengths is spite and weakness, I guess, at the same time. But, like, I think the spite challenge comes out a lot. That was one that I was talking about. Like, that was just a spite challenge. But you got to have that in your back pocket. Yeah. And then who's the best?

1:18:21PFT Commenter:Who's got the best eyes on your team? Who's, like, when they say – I mean, they all do differently. One guy I think that is Nimi. Nimi's kind of, like – he plays it cool. Like, he doesn't really get emotional during the game. he kind of knows if it's the right call. And I like, there was one time where I challenged for him and like he came back and he was like, I don't know if you should have did that. That's awesome. I know. So he, he, he kind of stays right here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The baseball stuff is, we were talking about it a couple of days ago, but it's shocking how good everyone's, I know obviously they're professional athletes, but when a guy challenges and it's like a centimeter off in being a ball, you're like five seconds, right?

1:18:58Yeah.

1:18:59PFT Commenter:You're like, how is that? They're that good at that. Yeah. You know what Derek, Derek is the best at if it was out on the other player. Oh, yeah. He can see the deflection. You know, like the ball goes out of bounds and they call it there. So he's the best at like seeing that, even when he's not involved in it. Like he can see that. And so if it's a 50-50 call with that and he's all in on it, I usually go all in on it with him. That's good to know. Hank, do you have any questions for your best friend? Yeah, what's up, coach? Hank, I didn't know you were working today. We're not even there. It's Monday.

1:19:31Back to the grind. We also worked yesterday, Hank. Yeah, every day.

1:19:37PFT Commenter:Every day is a work day. Jason Tatum, obviously when players get long-term injuries, sometimes they don't travel with the team. They stay back in rehab. How important do you think it was for him in that he traveled with the team the entire year, and how much easier did that make the transition when he came back? Yeah, I thought that made the transition much easier because it just showed that we were all in. He was all in and that we were all in together. So being at film sessions, being at road games, being on the bench during the games, I think it just gave that environment of like, you know, one, he's all in, he's serious, but we're all in as a team.

1:20:10And I kind of said that to the team yesterday. I thought, you know, everybody who didn't play, I think it was our top seven or eight, they were all at the game, on the bench, in the locker room, locked in on the game. And I think that's just shows being all in. So, you know, he showed that our team shows that. And I think that that's kind of like who we are as a team, you know? Yeah.

1:20:28PFT Commenter:You said you live off of spite. And obviously when the game starts, you're locked in. But before the game, halftime, do you ever like – is there anything in the crowd, fans, maybe fashion choices that just like tick you off, like get you going? I mean, I'll make up stuff sometimes, like just lie to yourself and be like, oh, that person said this to me. And they may not even like, oh, that person looked at me the wrong way. Like you just make up something to just be mad. That's great. Yeah, I like that. And so you just get upset at them before the game starts, or do you do this during the game?

1:21:03It could be at any point in time. It could be four hours before the game. You just see something, and then you're just like, you know what? This is how I'm going. That just pissed me off. I'm doing this the rest of the day. Just making enemies. He's got a little Rico in him, doesn't he? A little bit. That's kind of a Bosco move. A little Italians, yeah. I like it a lot. It's definitely an Italian thing. You're just mad for no reason. You're just mad. Yeah. You were talking about how intense these last couple games have gotten for you. Where do you go from there? Do you try to ratchet up the intensity for the playoffs, or do you try to pull it back knowing that it's playoff basketball so it's going to be intense anyways?

1:21:38I think you have to find the balance because you don't want it to turn to where you're tense and you can't execute. So I think playoff basketball, in my opinion, is no different than preseason basketball, regular season basketball. I think the biggest difference is just the intensity and the physicality that you do it. So we got to be able to bring it from a physical, you know, intense standpoint. But at the same time, we just got we got to be loose and we got to be ready to execute. You know, so I think that's the difference in the playoffs is everything is just done faster, harder, stronger, more intense, more physicality.

1:22:08PFT Commenter:Yeah. Has Brad Stevens ever said no to you? Yeah. OK, so you're just like every single college in America. I mean, yeah, we have. He says no a lot. Yeah, you have to make. Yeah, we know you have to. How many times has he picked up the phone the last couple weeks and just been like, no? Not too often, though. Not too often. But he does a good job of like, I'll call him and be like, hey, this is where I'm at. And he'll be like, ah. He doesn't give you a no, but he doesn't give you like a yes. Oh, interesting. So he's on the fence sometimes. Yeah, so we're doing a bit right now because it's every single college that ever has an opening, we always joke, the first thing you got to do is make Brad Stevens say no.

1:22:50PFT Commenter:And he will say no. He 100 % will say no, but UNC opens up and everyone's like, got to make Brad Stevens say no. It's like, well, yeah, of course. He's been saying no for a decade now, so it's good to know. He has a great ability to say no without saying no. Oh, okay, so that's why they keep coming back. That's a good skill set to have. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. He has a great ability of that. I would like to do a deep dive on Brad Stevens' ability to say no. Yeah, so tell me more about that. What do you mean he's got an ability to say no without saying no? well like we'll be talking and i'll like run this by like he'll be like yeah you know he's like that's not how i would have done it like something like something like that like that yeah that's it that's interesting like yeah like i love your passion but let's try to redirect some of this that's a that's an interesting way to look at it not how i love where you're coming from yeah i love where you're coming from okay it all sounds really great yeah so that's probably what happened when unc called they're like they're like hey brad we want you to take the job he's like listen i really appreciate where you guys are coming from yeah you guys are not how i would have asked in theory i like what you're doing here i think i would be a great coach for you but unfortunately i'm kind of busy right now yeah that makes it that makes a ton of sense if i was looking at it from your perspective but is he uh has he been drawing up more blobs for you always i mean i think that's the cool thing like before games if we're in there as a staff and uh you know we got a big dry erase board in the office and any chance we bounce stuff off each other, it's always great.

1:24:19Always though. That's one of the things that I learned from him the best. In real time, being able to get the exact right X is an old call that's necessary.

1:24:29PFT Commenter:Do you think that he is holding back one blob forever? If you really got him, if we could hit him with true serum, he'd be like, yeah, I actually have this blob I never was going to show anyone out just in case I ever needed it. Absolutely. The perfect blob. It's probably in his back pocket. Yeah. It's probably in his back pocket. Like literally. He's just walking around with the perfect blob. He could use it at like a CYO game if he was at. Like he wouldn't even use it in an NBA game. He could give it to like, you know, some CYO coach. Yeah. Hey, I've had this for 20 years. The perfect blob doesn't exist.

1:25:05PFT Commenter:Yes, it does. It's in Brad Stevens' back pocket. How much game planning are you doing right now for the playoffs? Like I know that you don't know. Who are you going to be playing that first round? But, like, are you actively doing, like, an either-or situation where it's like, okay, if this happens and I have one guy working on this team, one guy working on that team. So the staff is doing that, and that's where they're great. Like, the staff is kind of divvying up our two potential teams. But for me, it's like between now and Wednesday night, even Thursday morning, it's like, okay, how can I get us, you know, myself and the team kind of ready mentally, really mentally, emotionally, and psychologically.

1:25:41Like the physical stuff will happen at practice. But like right now, just focused on like by, you know, Wednesday night, we have to be so locked in on like our identity, our tendencies, our situational basketball, our discipline. Like, can we take it to another level? But, you know, the guy that like the guy who does that is JB. Like he has an innate ability to like I bet you between now and tomorrow we have a couple of days off or like optional day. JB is going to just take it to another level mentally and psychologically where like he comes into the building and like he changes the entire building with his mindset.

1:26:18And like everybody kind of feeds off of that. And so I like to feed off of him and in those moments, you know, and he can take it to a dark place in a good way. But I'm looking forward to that. JB sounds like a weapon, a guy that just changes the entire building with his mindset. He is a weapon. He's 100 % a weapon, mentally, psychologically. He can change an entire building. And I think a lot of what we've done up until this point was his decision to turn himself into a weapon heading into the season. And I think we were able to all leverage that. That's why we talk a lot about why we are where we are and everybody in the organization deserves credit.

1:27:04But I think this season a lot of it started with him – you couldn't have said it better, just turning himself into a weapon.

1:27:12PFT Commenter:Did he say – did he tell you at any point in the beginning of the season or training camp where he's like, hey, coach, I'm thinking about turning myself into a weapon? He doesn't have to. You can just tell. Yeah. That makes sense. Like Megatron. Megatron does that too. Because that would be cool though if he sat you down. He's like, I've been thinking about this for a really long time. I think I'm going to be a weapon this year. And the thing that he could do, he's very similar. I'd learn this from him. He uses people to get what he needs to get. He'll come in and he'll be having a conversation with you.

1:27:43And meanwhile, he's just either extracting information from you or getting mad at you so that he could go out on the court and take it to another level. And I'm just sitting there and I'm loving every second of this. Yeah. Sounds like the Terminator. What's the status of your house right now? You were telling us about how when your house gets too nice, you have to, like, junk it up a little bit, break something. But I have to switch them all. Yeah, you've had a lot of success recently. The house might be looking a little too fancy. So, again, you know, getting ready for the playoffs is very similar.

1:28:12Like, you know, you're almost trying to – you've got to enter a dark space. So today's like a graceful day, you know, spending the day with my wife, have some meetings at the downtown office to spend time with the organization you know tomorrow we start transitioning into the darkness and like by wednesday you shouldn't even know what real like you shouldn't even know what world you're in like you should just be yeah so locked in and my wife was great because like i what jb does to people i do to her so like if i need to be a certain type of way i usually test it out on her first okay yeah you're going weapon mode yes and like we've gone like in the playoffs we've we've gone up to almost

1:28:53PFT Commenter:five to seven days without like speaking that is weapon mode yeah like we were like five hard days where it's like we're not even we're not even communicating right now but it was necessary because like we all have to feel playoff mode we all better be in so she's also in weapon mode she's she's in weapon mode more than i am partly because probably because she lives with me like you have to be in weapon mode. But yeah, 100%. When you guys are in weapon mode together at the same time, is that cool? Or do you recognize, like, all right, game, respect, game? Yeah. Dangerous. Yeah. Do your kids go to weapon mode?

1:29:31Is the whole house in weapon mode? We try to keep the kids out of it, but I'm trying to teach my oldest how to get into that. Yeah, they're mini weapons. It's about time. They're for sure mini weapons. They got to learn something. I can tell by your answer. My youngest is my youngest. So we have a rule in the house that you can put anybody in a guillotine at any time.

1:29:51We had to hold him back because some people were coming over and he was jumping behind the couch, just putting people in chokehold. And he'll always be like, don't let your guard down. We have a thing where you cannot get guillotined in the house. But he's taking it to another level.

1:30:10PFT Commenter:Does everyone respect the tap in your house? I would assume they have to, right? There was a point in time where he didn't. Oh, no. We'd get really pissed at him. I was like, kid, listen, you have no respect for the art. How old was he? Seven. A seven-year-old who's addicted to guillotining but doesn't respect the tap. That is a – I would move out. That's the house I'd move out from. But he's nine now. He respects the tap a lot more. He understands the compassion that you have to show for people who are choking. That's good. Good. And he's much better at it, but he has a mean guillotine. But you'd be sitting down on the couch and he'd just be like, don't let your guard down.

1:30:45He'd just put you in an immediate guillotine. I bet he's had some teachers that didn't really understand what you were trying to teach. That maybe didn't appreciate him bringing the martial arts into the classroom. Which, to me, that's the only way you learn. I mean, you want people to pay attention. There's nothing like paying attention more than knowing if a guillotine is coming around your shoulder. That's true. I agree. You don't fall asleep. I'll tell you what was a better one. And so we go to WWE and I download the playlist for like WWE intros of like the top, you know, guys. And what do you think is the one that he flocked to the most?

1:31:19I mean, Undertaker is always a great one.

1:31:24PFT Commenter:Yeah. Was it old school as well or no? It was old school. Yeah, it was old school. Motorhead, time to play the game. So it was Shawn Michaels, sexy boy. So this guy's singing it the whole night. he's memorized the song and i'm like i'm taking him to school the next day i was like kid you cannot sing this song at school i'll tell you what i'm i'm excited to uh i'm excited to hire this kid as a barstool intern in about 10 years maybe bring back wrestling yeah we'll be ready great we should actually have we should have somebody like that in our office because we get we should just adopt a guillotine yeah i think we should adopt a guillotine rule in the in the barstool weapon mode i almost feel like we're having one guy whose job it is to just like roam the hallways like secretly yeah if you get got by this guy like it's like it would keep us all on our toes a little bit more bring back some of that survival instinct that we've lost getting soft fat and complacent if we just have like some assassin that's that's hiding behind chairs ready to choke us out yeah and you start with guillotines but then it gets to like trips then it gets to kimuras and now now you're coming into the office every day locked in ready to go yeah you're walking dangerous but like in a good exciting way yeah very exciting i'd like to nominate Zach to be the guillotine guy.

1:32:36First of all, wasn't Hank supposed to be training jiu-jitsu? He should be the one that's doing it.

1:32:40PFT Commenter:Yeah, that's my resolution. I actually am going to try. I think I saw a jiu-jitsu gym right by my house, and I think I might try. You should. Can I just walk in as a 41-year-old man and be like, hey, I want a jiu-jitsu? That, to me, is the beauty of the art. When you go to class, everyone is a weapon. It's probably one of the few spaces where there's literally no judgment. You could get got by anybody. The guy who's 41 who can't do five push-ups but he's a purple belt is going to hem you up in some way. I could do five push-ups, coach. My wife's going to start training. Maybe Hank and I will do it.

1:33:22She was my sparring partner yesterday before the game.

1:33:26PFT Commenter:When you come to Chicago next, we'll just tumble around. That'd be fun. Absolutely. All right, Coach, this has been awesome. We love having you on. I got one last question, Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo code TAKE, 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, Roback.com, promo code TAKE. I assume you'll be watching the playing games. Do you care at all, or is it just whoever is going to show up? Honestly, it's very similar to, like, fighting. Like, whoever wins, they're going to be better than us at something. and we're going to have advantages and disadvantages and our opponent is going to have advantages, disadvantages.

1:34:06We've got to quickly get to what are our advantages and how do we keep those and how do we leverage our disadvantages. But whoever it is, I know it's going to be a tough matchup. But like I said, up until then, we've got to get in weapon mode and we've got to be ready to go.

1:34:21PFT Commenter:Yeah, I saw there was a quote. I think the players were asked what their favorite Missoula quote was and Sam Hauser said that your quote is, there's no fouls in a war. You either die or you don't. So you actually can't complain about fouls for the entire playoffs. I don't. Nor we shouldn't. Yeah. It's war. Illegal screen. Illegal screen. Illegal screen. Illegal screen. Oh, man. If you guys need resumes on the guy that's going to come in and keep you guys on your toes, let me know. I got a few guys in mind. I love that. Well, you know what we got to do? the first thing we got to do to find this new job, we got to make Brad say no.

1:35:03PFT Commenter:So we'll reach out. Okay. Yeah. We'll ask him officially if he'll come and be the designated guillotine guy at Barstool Chicago HQ. He'll say no in a nice way. Well, you know, guys, I think that's a really good idea for the people that are interested. Yeah. So we'll get the no, and then we'll find someone else. Yeah. Perfect. All right, Coach. You're the best. Thanks so much, man. Good luck, fellas. Thank you, man. See you guys. Joe Mazzullo is brought to you by Jose Cuervo. Jose Cuervo, meet the moment, Jose Cuervo. You know the Cuervo moments. When Cuervo enters a room, every moment just gets better.

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1:36:49PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest and a very good friend, recurring guest. It is Kyle Long in studio, looking great as ever. What do you weigh right now? I'm 305, according to my bathroom scale the other day. But you're like... 305 for me is skinny. Like, I look sick. Yeah, you look skinny. First thing I said when I saw you was, dude, you lost weight, and I don't think that you did. I got a bigger shirt, and I tucked in my shirt. That's it, yeah. For any of you who pull your shirts down, I'm a big pull your t-shirt guy. Oh, yeah. This move, all the time. Get the boobs more comfortable, get the belly less visible.

1:37:26Just get a bigger shirt. And the haircut's good, too. Yeah, it's good. Thank you very much. I've decided to go with the off-season look, because during the season, I like to bick the head. When you're bald, you don't have many options. You either look like Trevor from Grand Theft Auto, or you look like Mr. Clean. Right now, I'm going for the Statham look, which is let it grow a little bit, but keep it tight.

1:37:43PFT Commenter:Yeah, it looks good. And you also got lucky as a bald guy to have the facial hair to, like, because, like, a bald guy who can't grow facial hair, that's the real tragedy a bald guy who could have a sick beard like you do lined up and everything thank you you're good thank you very much you're good it is important because it's kind of like letting everyone know hey i can grow hair at certain points in my my body it's like i always think it's funny when they show like the brian dable inverted facial hair like where his beard is on his head or a'shaun robinson is one of my favorite pictures shout out to a'shaun love a'shaun And yeah, you need hair on one of the spots.

1:38:19Yeah, somewhere. I wonder if SVP ever tried to grow a beard. Because he's always just been smooth. He got the big glasses, which I feel like it's functionally the same thing. It helps. It breaks up the smoothness a little bit. Yeah.

1:38:32PFT Commenter:You need something that gets the eyes going somewhere else. SVP should do that. He should grow like an evil goatee. Yeah. Just to see what it looks like. Yeah. That would be sick. Come up with another set of initials. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So you're here. I wanted to talk about a couple things, some ball. I also want to talk because we have the draft coming up next week. Draft memories and the whole process. Let's start with this. If you could go back in time to right now when you got drafted, like a week and a half out, what is going through your head as someone who's been told, hey, you're going to probably be a first rounder, but we don't know.

1:39:10The whole thing. I don't think I've ever talked about this, but I think my dad knew that I was going to be a first-round pick, but he always told me through, obviously, his contacts and stuff. And these guys talk. Yeah. Like Mike Mayock and him are like frat brothers. You know what I mean? They're homies. The indication, unbeknownst to me at the time, was I was probably going to be an end-of-the-first-round pick guy. I was under the understanding that I was a third-round, maybe a fourth-round guy. Oh, wow. I didn't have many starts in college. My technique was shit. I got tired quickly. I had an ankle injury.

1:39:41I thought you know obviously I'm going to get a shot to play somewhere when I was sitting in that living room in Virginia with my older brother my younger brother my parents and I got that phone call from an 847 area code and I didn't recognize the 847 area code at the time um it was amazing and I remember the look on my parents my brother and my dad looked at me like you lucky bastard like you're gonna play for the Chicago Bears and congrats on being a first round pick but more importantly yeah you're going to the best place yeah and that was the experience i had um yeah it was such a blur dude the stuff i remember was training prior to the draft right try to put yourself in as good a position physically as you can be in um and i remember training and seeing guys like andrew luck prepare and just thinking i was like sharing a field with a greek god and guys like julian edelman putting in three a days out there on the turf in the offseason it gives you an indication of the type of work that you need to do to have success and and and so going

1:40:43PFT Commenter:into like the pre-draft and everything because you didn't play a ton of college football the injury whatever was there extra pressure on the combine where you're like oh fuck i have to because that's the funny thing about the combine a lot of the guys they're going there and it's like all right you know what i am yeah but there are certain guys especially a physical like freak like yourself we're like hey if i show up to the combine like there is a world where they draft on measurables and they draft on your your ceiling even if you haven't shown it all on tape well i think that for a guy like myself who had a lot of red tape in my file not just for on the field stuff but for you know character stuff and every guy has some semblance of character issues unless you're kirk cousins yeah um every guy which that becomes its own character issue you're right yeah too many khakis yeah exactly put them on the list man what is it was the brian cox he's like never trust a man without a vice that's what he said i heard never trust a man named tracy and never trust a man that doesn't have a mustache okay i learned that from an og when i got in the league and i've been leery of tracy's ever since but when i got to the combine i knew that i was gonna run fast jump high be strong be a freak the thing that i was really afraid of not afraid of but i was concerned with was that i was gonna have 20 private meetings in person with these teams back to back to back to back going to 12 30 in the morning um throughout the night and they were going to rip apart my file yeah your red flags and it dawned on me early at the combine that uh these guys know everything right they've talked to everybody just be an open book they'll appreciate that and i remember getting more laughs than questions after i answered the initial questions and i said you know what i did a good job there now go run your nuts off tomorrow and somebody's going to pick you up and it ended up being the Chicago Bears.

1:42:35Yeah, I'm looking at the draft right now. I think if we did a redraft, I think you would probably be top five in that draft. Really? I think so, yeah. I would put... Where do I end up? I think I might put you around like four or five and that would send you to... You might be a bird. You might have been an eagle. Could you imagine if Lane Johnson and I played right guard and right tackle next to each other for a decade? Right, well, that's the thing. Lane Johnson, I think he would shoot up to number one in that draft. Who is number one in that draft? Eric Fisher went number one. Eric Fisher. Yeah, and then Luke Jokal went second.

1:43:07Then Deion Jordan went three. I think he'd go probably, no offense, probably Lane Johnson number one in that draft. Then I would say DeAndre Hopkins two. Yeah. And then I would probably put, I don't know. That's where we start to have the Kyle Long conversation. You know what? Travis Frederick would go up. That draft class often gets shit on. That draft class gets shit on for, you know, one through 32 might not have 32 pro bowlers. But I'll tell you what, there's a couple Hall of Famers in that first round. Travis Kelsey in the third round. There's a couple guys in that draft who had unbelievable careers and they're still playing now.

1:43:44So, I mean, say what you want. Yeah. So I was looking at your weaknesses on NFL.com because they still have your weaknesses, your draft profile. Can we talk about those and you can tell us if you address those? I love these. If they were valid weaknesses? Yeah. Okay. Still new to the game of football. 100%. Still new to the game. And still today. We all are. I'm 37. I'm still learning every day. We all are. Yeah. His play is still a bit unrefined. I kind of like that. I'm like crack. I'm not like refined. I'm not like that El Puro. I was that crack. I hit like crack in the 80s. Yeah. Doesn't always play with a natural bend that he possesses.

1:44:23Ooh. How is the bend? Sure. Okay. Okay. Overextends off the snap at times, trying to land his punch, losing his balance, and allowing his man to disengage. Yes. So when I got into the league, it became see what you hit, not just throw your face at the enemy. And when I was at Oregon, I remember I was on the ground way too much because I didn't know what the hell I was doing. But I agree with that. Similarly, we'll lunge at linebackers when he reaches the second level. Yeah, we call that getting horny. When you get real close to it and you want to hit it real hard, you end up missing it because they're better athletes.

1:44:53It's you're like, this guy weighs 70 pounds less than me. I'm going to take advantage of this. I heard Puka Nakua reference that one time about football. He was like, we call that getting a little bit horny. Like when you get a little bit quick in your route progression or as an offensive lineman, it is swinging the bat before the ball's in the zone. Yeah. He struggles to keep his hands inside of his defender. Who is this guy? I don't know. Now you're mad. Now you're mad. Do you struggle to keep your hands inside of another man? No, I don't actually. He will catch his assignment. I don't know what that means.

1:45:25Catch his assignment. So as an offensive tackle, you often see guys that play with great strike or length. Darnell Wright plays with his hands out in front of him, does a great job of that. I was a guy that invited contact, and then I'd bear hug you, and then I'd find a way to sit down and make you stop. I didn't have that length that a lot of those tackles had, so I agree with the catch. Whatever way you do it. Seems to second-guess himself in space, don't we all? That's because I didn't know the plays. Yeah. Yeah, or get partial glancing blows. Oh, sorry. Seems to second guess himself in space or get partial glancing blows when blocking on the move instead of driving his man to the ground.

1:46:02Wow, this guy. Do we have positives? This guy's going to have a really hard time. These are all the weaknesses. Do we have positives? I just want to know if he had. Positives. Howie Long is his dad. It said Rocky starts his career at Florida State. Chris Long is his brother. Strengths looks the part of an NFL lineman. Great. Yes, facts. Looks good in shorts. Yeah. So did Tony Mandridge. Oh, this is good. Has nice height and long, thick arms. Nice. Which he can extend to keep defenders at bay in pass protection. Sometimes using one hand to ward off his man while on the move. That's sick. True. That is pretty good.

1:46:33That's strength. Excellent mobility given his size. Has no issues moving behind the line or pulling in front of plays. Hitting multiple targets at times. Solid on combo blocks. Maintaining his bend. Also displays the footwork to get the outside angle on run blocks. Plays with attitude. backs up his teammates on the field cleans up piles love that thank you for going through that this reminded me of when I went to the senior bowl and it was my first time having to take my so I'm bald you know I don't I have a cul-de-sac on top of my head but I've had that since I was 20 years old I started going bald you know what I'm saying I went to the senior bowl and it was the first time where I had to take off my fitted hat like I was a fitted hat to sleep guy you know what I'm saying and I thought I could weigh in with my hat on and they were like nah and it was like a stage in front of all the scouts all the people and I had the worst hair like the worst bald guy hair horrible and I got off the stage and immediately checked my Twitter because I had just made a Twitter for that pre-draft process and the only tweet from the weigh-in was every year there is a player that is more bald than bald this year's player is Kyle Wong oh no this is the worst fucking day of my life oh get me out of here smart move by the way not having a twitter until the draft yeah i feel like you saved yourself very or your agent like well it's funny because halfway through my career my older brother went through a process where he like cleaned out his twitter he like hired somebody to go in there and just make sure that everything's all good and you know just stupid you know tweets at the end of the night end of the day and i did the same thing i'm probably due for another one um have you guys ever done that no uh yes we did

1:48:20PFT Commenter:uh we did before barcel van talk they did remember they cleaned they made us clean it out i don't think i don't think i delete anything though i think i think they cleaned it out and they're just like hey what's this and it's like it was a lot of like uh the manual retweets of other people and they're like i was like yeah but i didn't say that yeah but it's not yours yeah yeah yeah that makes sense yeah there wasn't a lot there uh and we also just completely missed the biggest thing remember when which was the pick-em episode yeah so we did a terrible job of cleaning it up remember when the the bad thing in sports was people with twitters like when i got in the league i was active on twitter and it's really what got me to be friends with so many people in the media space and have so many relationships but i remember i get looked at like a pariah yeah locker room Yeah, because there was only downside, which is wrong, because there was definitely upside.

1:49:13PFT Commenter:And I think there's always, especially guys that are younger, having a connection to the fans. Fans just want the athletes they root for to just feel like regular guys. You know what I mean? I grew up watching Ken Griffey Jr. I wish I could have read his tweets. Right. When I was 12 years old, I would have been able to look up, what is Roger Clemens tweeting before he goes out there and pitches against the Red Sox? That stuff's cool. And when I was a young player, I was like, I want people to know what's going on and who we are. Because we wear helmets. We're not in the NBA. You don't see us. You don't get to talk to us.

1:49:49So connect with people that way. We were actually talking on Monday's show about how the Masters has their cell phone policy, how more places could actually benefit from that. I think you might agree maybe a locker room would be a good place to not have a cell phone. I think you and I can all agree. To not have a cell phone. Well, I would say you can have a cell phone as long as I get 30 seconds to prepare for the show.

1:50:09PFT Commenter:by the way, I read your chapter that you wrote for us in the book. Thank you very much. And it was, it was, it was part like the story of you getting a picture taken by the media with your dick out. That would like my dick wasn't out. My dick was just there. Yeah. He was in the locker room acting normally as one does in a locker room. Somebody had their camera out, but that was why that's why part of my take exists is like to have, to have a place where it's like, Hey, you want to come on and let's make some jokes about it. Cause like, yeah, what else are you going to do? Like it happened. What are you going to do?

1:50:42Yeah. So it's a funny moment. We move on. We don't talk about it anymore. Ever, ever, ever. I will never bring you. I still don't understand why you were rock hard. Yeah. I don't know. It was exciting time. Monday night football, man. It's exciting. You guys won, right? In the nation's capital. Yeah. So yeah, every guy gets like a little bit of a battle.

1:51:00PFT Commenter:Lost the war. Um, you were saying before, uh, did you go to Gruden's facility before the draft? So when I retired from the Bears in 2019, I took a year off and started working for CBS, and I was like, man, I still want to hit people, and I'm still athletic, and I still can play. So I'm going to go do that. And the first person I called was Mike Mayock. As I alluded to earlier, him and my dad are tight. He was like, we'll get you in for a workout. Coach Gruden would love to have you in for a workout. Tom Cable was the coach. now tom cable is somebody who has some personal experience with substance abuse from his own house because he's dealt with it with his immediate family and when i was in the pre-draft process tom cable was with the seahawks one thing i'll never forget is going to the seahawks private meeting room with pete carroll at the end of the the board table um and all the staff on the side and when i sat down they brought out a case a keystone light slapped it in front of me and they kind of were like you want to have a beer and i remember being like you realize i could fucking rip every single one of you guys up in this room and this is like wrong on so many i've never told this story but it pisses me off thinking about it now um and tom cable was there and tom cable really grilled me that day and i feel like he was uh projecting onto me a lot of the things that you know i i just had i got caught having fun a couple times right um and i have fun still right sue me but when i got to the raiders tom cable was the o-line coach for that workout he tried to kill me didn't kill me tried to kill me and then at the end said you don't have it he said go talk to john gruden and i went up there and you did a whole workout and at the end of it he's just like he didn't say you don't have it he said go talk to the coach you know type thing and i was like all right and as a guy who played in one place for so long i never did any of these workouts i don't know how they go right you know who's bringing you where and i go up to gruden's office it was great to see gruden i just i just love that guy he's all the best and he sit down in the chair right next to him right across from him good to see you man i'm like good to see you coach and he goes you love football man i said yeah coach i do he goes i bet you don't like football as much as i do and i looked at i said you're probably right coach he said well i think we're gonna go with leatherwood oh thanks for coming out that's fucked up and i was like see apart yeah okay was he hoping that you would fight him be like i know i love football more bro it was like i was a kid looking at chucky you know what i mean yeah like i grew up watching chucky yeah and he was giving me chucky in that moment i just said coach you got this one i know you love football more than me yeah how'd that work out for them uh they've been uh on the come up ever since right yeah i think they're paying for head coaches it is it is really fucked up though that the seahawks did that like i if you had a severe drinking problem if you were like an alcoholic Which I don't.

1:53:47Which you don't. But if you did, let's say that you had a problem, and you bring a kid who's... How old were you at the time? You got the twisted teeth. You got the lefty back. I was 23. Okay, so you bring a 23-year-old in for a job interview, and you just slam a case of beer in front of me, like, I bet you want one of these, don't you? And they all laugh. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually a fucked up thing to do to a young man. They're testing you. Because what people don't realize, out of context, that seems funny. Oh, it's funny. you know yeah but the meeting before there could have been a substance abuse psychologist or a therapist in there trying to grill me like cross-examination style right i've been through the ringer that day and like i said earlier 17 18 of these private meetings in a row it's crazy you start to go crazy you start to feel like the guy from severance who's in the like yeah get me out of here how do i get out of this building do they have uh do they have a camera in your house on draft night no did they ask no they should have that's a big miss on their part like that is yeah if they had asked you to go to the draft would you have gone no i think that's a lose-lose situation it's a lose-lose right yeah it's a lose-lose unless you're chris long yeah or jake long do you remember his draft night i do i that i would say that chris's draft night was the best night of sports in our family i mean chris won two superbowls so he would have a different answer yeah chris got drafted number two you know which was everything chris is my hero yeah um and i pitched that night we slaughtered the team i think i was i think i had like 14 strikeouts and i went like four for four and i remember in the sixth inning um there was two outs and i'm getting ready to strike this guy out and the pa announcer uh robert morris shout out to robert morris who's like the og pa announcer atst an's belfield he's like in a brief pause in the action chris long ofst an's belfield high school goes number two overall oh shit and i I remember just being like, oh, I'm about to fucking K this guy.

1:55:40That's awesome. And I just remember my parent, and we had prom that night. Oh, this is the best night ever. So literally, the game ended. You shower up, get your eye black off, get your suit on. And I remember my dad and my mom showed up with Rams hats to take pictures with us. It was just like the best day ever. That's perfect. And Chris didn't make it back because he was in New York with all those hooligans doing God knows what. So you struck out 14 guys, went four for four at the plate, and then went to prom. That's a great night. And your brother got drafted. That's a pretty good night. That's a really good night.

1:56:11As far as high school seniors.

1:56:12PFT Commenter:Are you pissed at all? The rest is cloudy. Yeah. Are you pissed at all at Chris and your dad for having hair? You know what? Sometimes I am. Yeah, you should be. But there are some things I have that they don't. Yeah, but Howie's kind of got it all. He's got it all. He's got it all, but one thing. And his hair has never changed. He can't golf because he said it hurts too bad. So I can golf. He can't. Okay. How's the golf game? It's all right. I mean, me and Hank are ready to have a good one. No, you say all right. What's your handicap? I'm an 11.2. Okay, so it's better than all right. I'm trending up.

1:56:42I was a 14 last week. When did you start? Well, I started it again after the season. I started going to the range a lot. No, but I mean, when did you start? Aren't you relatively new to the game? COVID, probably. Yeah. Oh, you're one of those guys? Shrink. Yeah, shrink the game. Shrink. You probably have. What is weird? 2023. I wear a lot of Malbon. Yeah, you got the hats with the big letters on them. I wear metal spikes. I get the Bluetooth speaker We still haven't golfed I know we gotta do a video We need to do that We absolutely should A little lefty versus righty Yeah he could play twice

1:57:17PFT Commenter:Athletes versus the mathletes over here He could be on both teams though Were you okay with that? He's lefty with you and then righty with us I'm fully converted I posted a video of me swinging right handed the other day Unbeknownst to me Hank did that too And somebody was like you're fucking stealing Fuck Hank Fuck right handed people Well, let me ask you a question. No, lefty swing looks great, Kyle. Kyle, let me ask you a question. You're a sweetheart. Are you fully converted to lefty if you still putt righty? I'm a left-hander. No, I know. But if someone were to walk in and say, hey, Kyle, you're a lefty.

1:57:48PFT Commenter:I'm a lefty. Love you, bro. There needs to be more lefty representation in the world. Oh, yeah, by the way, I also putt righty. Well, it's funny you say that because as kids, if we're putting, oftentimes as left-handers, there's not left-handed putters around. So we learned to putt on our dad's putter or our, you know, whatever's putter. And it's always right-handed. I'll never forget that. This isn't going my way. I used to, there was a ping putter that sat in my dad's office and I would just fuck around with it. And then, you know, he's like, you're a lefty. You don't use that one. Yeah. What about, what if you still chip right-handed?

1:58:19We got to talk to a therapist.

1:58:20PFT Commenter:Okay. All right. So Hank, Hank, maybe talk to a therapist. Yeah, he's converted lefty, but he chips and putts right. I've seen one-handed chippers. A lot of guys have been going to that to rid themselves of the yips. I don't understand it. That's great. That's a sad move. Right-handed is the yip-yaps. Yeah. I will also be chipping lefties soon enough. Good. What does soon enough mean? I got to practice more. I got to practice outside. We have to set a deadline on this because you're just going to keep pushing it off. Okay. Memorial Day. Okay. Done. MDW. MDW. Left-handed chipper. Going to be huge.

1:58:50Yeah. Huge. Kyle, let's talk some football about this draft this year. Great. There's a lot of really, really good defensive players, I feel like, that are going to go high up. Is there one guy that you think is a little bit undervalued right now that could make his way up in that top six, seven area? Look, I don't know if this guy is going to be anywhere near that zip code, but some guys are just born football players, and this guy, the linebacker from Texas Tech, Rodriguez? Yeah. Malcolm Rodriguez. Awesome. Holy shit. Yeah. I mean, I like to watch the cut-ups of these guys in coverage because, in my opinion, you should be able to play the run.

1:59:36That should be just like 101 is playing gap integrity. Right. But where you see a lot of the disparity in the NFL is when these running backs go on these choice routes, when these tight ends are crossing the field, when these Mike Linebackers, middle-of-the-field players, are forced to be in trail technique. Rodriguez has a ton of ball skills. He's also a great tackler in space. and I feel like there's a premium with the athletes at the tight end position, the hybrid guys at running back. The other guy that I watched a lot on the defensive side is Reuben Bain. I like his buddy 61, Maui Noah, the right tackle.

2:00:11But if we're talking defensive players, what a rare body style Reuben Bain has. He's like a gummy bear. He is like a gummy bear but like pressed down a little bit. Yeah, like a violent explosive gummy bear. And I just think that folks at home look at the length conversation, particularly on the defensive side of the ball, well, tackles and defensive side of the ball, and they overvalue it. I think if a guy has natural leverage, if he can bend, the decision has to be made by an offensive lineman. I'm going to be in for a fist fight 70 plays in a row. And Reuben Bain reminds me of one of those kind of players, and I think he'll have success in the National Football League.

2:00:47I think he can reduce down in nickel. I think he can be first, second down guy on the edge, whatever he wants to do. So if you were a lineman and you were matched up against a guy that he has those small arms, but he's strong as fuck and explosive and he's got that bend, what would a guy like that give you problems with? Well, first and foremost, you want to make sure, like in that negative scouting report, you don't get your head out in front of your body. With a guy who has a leverage advantage against you, you want to make sure your feet are under you, you see what you're hitting, because oftentimes they get on you and they can shuck you.

2:01:19or a guy like Von Miller, and these are not the same player, but Von Miller could do that ghost rushery, go under you. You have to be aware of the things that they can win easily with and take those away and then just ride the bull. Fucking find a way to get on the bull and pray to God that your quarterback is in sequence and that he's stepping up at 10 yards. Yeah. Zach, do you have some questions for gamer to gamer?

2:01:45PFT Commenter:This is our segment, Gamer to Gamer. A little G to G? Yeah, a little G to G. Hop on comms. Yeah, do some comms. You've been hitting Stellamontis at all? You had damn battlegrounds? Stellamontis? I haven't been in Stellamontis for a while, but they stopped. The end game is what bothers me about Ark Raiders. It was like Christmas morning for two months playing that game. Everybody had so much fun. Everybody and their mama played. And then people, it's like a ghost town, I imagine. Now, I switched to Crimson Desert, though, Zach. It's a great game. It doesn't require me to have any of my buddies online.

2:02:16It's like Skyrim for the OGs. that used to be in there. You could play Skyrim still, probably. Crimson Desert, in my opinion, is one of those games. They kind of did destroy... They went too heavy on the player versus environment, so the player v player on the updates, the devs are destroying the game. Yeah, you know what? I want to schwack players. I agree. I want to schwack players that are fighting the environment. I'm going to take these guys out. So PvE PvP. So essentially, there's a giant map. You spawn on one side with you, and me and Zach spawn on the other side, and within that map there's a bunch of little missions that we can all do if we happen to run across each other we can have one of two options hey buddy you friendly can we work together and get this giant mech down and we can get all the loot or i can say hey we're friendly and then a discord i'm like zach we're gonna fucking kill you kill him and then we kill him and we run those

2:03:06PFT Commenter:pockets big cat we take everything we get the goop that's what they call it the goop yeah oh You been gooping, guys? You goop up, get gone. Goop up, get gone? Yes, sir. That's a shirt right there. That's a t-shirt. Is it G-U-G-G? King Goopa. Goop up and get gone. Goopa Troopa. Couple dudes gooping. Can't go wrong. Super goopers. Couple dudes gooping. Gotta bring some wet wipes. Goop up and get gone. All right. Do you have any other gamer to gamer questions? Yeah, I guess this was just selfish if you were ever trying to run it. Just let me know. I'm up late. You can tap in. I would love to. I would love to.

2:03:42I'm an 11.15 shut the computer off East Coast time guy. So maybe I'll get you started on your night. That's when he turns it on.

2:03:49PFT Commenter:No, we're shutting down like 12 Central. So we're similar on the shutdown. Really, Zach? That's such a lie. Unless you have an important meeting, in which case you stay up until 3. Yeah. If we're stringing some winds along, there's nothing I can do there. That would just be selfish of me to get off. When was the last time you shut it down at 12 Central? Probably last Thursday. Okay. Hank, PGA 2K, you done it? Oh, yeah. Not the new one as much, but I'm a winner gamer. Hey, it's great. And if you turn the difficulty up, it's not just pull straight back, pull straight forward. It's like if you hit a draw or a cut, you got to do it.

2:04:25I mean, the ranked is awesome.

2:04:27PFT Commenter:Yeah, I've had some struggles, some viral clips. I went re-viral last week of my struggles on PGA 2K. But it's a great game. Get back on the horse, Hank. I like, I'm once it gets nice out though, it's, it's, I miss video games. Kyle, we got to get, uh, we got to get up in the skies and DCS over the Persian Gulf. I've been running some operations over the straight of Hormuz. Let's get that blockade out. And I've, I've been fucking up some Iranian Navy ships and they're not happy. They're not happy about it, but I'm opening up the fucking straight. Like you see what gas prices are. If they come down, you can, yeah.

2:05:00The virtual gas price right now is so low. Yeah, but we can get you up in that map, and I'll fly in the A-10. I'll provide close air support. We'll get you up in the F-15E Strike Eagle, and you can take out some of these skippers. Love that. Put the nods on. Yeah.

2:05:17PFT Commenter:Yeah. Doing media, is it scarier than playing in the NFL? Sometimes. Okay, good. Depending on who you work with. That makes me feel good, yeah. Depending on who you work with. That's like the big thing. Yeah. If you work with Pete, is that scary? Pete is amazing. Shout out to Pete Prisco. You know, my biggest job is just come with the energy to be ready to react off of Pete's energy because he's going to be bringing his fireball and his fastball. Sometimes you work with people that don't do that and you have to be more of like the quarterback, I guess. But I really like my role as kind of the six man or, you know, glue guy, I guess.

2:05:54I'm not a leader. I'm not the big star. I'm just a guy that's in there trying to make conversation happen. I think you and Pete make for a very good duo. Thank you, bro. Because he does watch the tape, so he will have – it'll be an informed opinion. Sometimes it'll be incorrect, but at least he's got an informed opinion. And then you just get to react off that. You guys got the whole big guy, little guy thing going on too, so it's a good dynamic. He's been a great vet to be around. Yeah. I've learned a lot from – and he's a guy that's done it the right way for 40 years. I mean, he's been covering the National Football League for so long, and if you see him have interactions with coaches or scouts, they're like fuck you Pete but great to see you like I read what you wrote you're right

2:06:35PFT Commenter:but you shouldn't have wrote that no he writes whatever he feels I respect it yeah absolutely do you have any uh any hot takes going into the next football season like a team that we can do the team that will make the playoffs I love Jackson Dart I love the idea of Matt Nagy being the OC and not having to worry about head coach duties yeah just like having a guy like John Harbaugh be the OG, and you know that the programs could be run a certain way, if Matt Nagy and Jackson Dart can get on the same page, it's going to be a lot of fun for people in New York. Is there a team that you think might regress?

2:07:12Team that will regress? Well, I don't think that the Bears are going to regress. But I think similar to the it's not the same as the commanders. But when the expectations are at 35 ,000 feet and you end up at 32 ,000 feet People act like the sky's falling.

2:07:29PFT Commenter:I think there's a chance that we could be a better team with the worst record, given the fact that a lot of those wins were pretty crazy. Wait one second. Going into last season, that's exactly what I said about the Commanders, and you guys said that I was being half in, half out. Well, I think the difference is that the Commanders were an old roster. The Bears are a young roster. So I think we'll be in the playoffs. I'll be very disappointed if we're not in the playoffs. I'll say that right now. I think that's exactly verbatim what I said going into the last season. We're going to regress with the record, but not as far as a team goes.

2:08:04But I was wrong about everything with that take. It's not like I was correct about it. They learned, which is so, so hard to do in this league. I mean, obviously winning is hard to do, but winning close games, winning two-minute situational football, that breeds so much confidence. And when I watch that team in Kansas City, when Patrick's healthy and when things are rolling, they know if they are within striking distance with four minutes left and there's a chance on God's green earth that Patrick gets the ball. It's the same feeling we have in Chicago.

2:08:36PFT Commenter:I think Caleb's going to make another leap. Like, I really do. We have the same feeling here. Yeah, because it's just like he, everything that happened last year, he did a lot of the hard stuff and made it look easy. And a lot of the easy stuff look hard. and if he could just raise the – like his ceiling is so high, just raise the floor a little. Some of the easy plays, some of the checkdowns, like those are there. And now every guy on that roster, one through 53, understands that if they can ratchet it up one or two clicks, they may have an opportunity to be a guy. Because when you're on a team like this, it's like a kingmaker team.

2:09:08Yeah. Okay? These guys become higher paid, more marketable, pro bowlers. You win games, you get all that. and people smell that now and they want a taste of it.

2:09:18PFT Commenter:I also will say that a lot of this depends on how the draft goes. Yeah. You got to nail, like, we have a lot of holes on the defensive side right now, and if the draft, if you can't get, the Bears need probably two to three, like, impact starters in this draft, which is a tall task, but that's really - It can be done. To get where we want to go, that's probably going to have to happen. Like, it's going to have to be a couple dudes on the defensive line that are instant, oh, they're dudes and they can contribute. Yeah. That's just the spot they're in. Have you paid any attention at all to Jennings Dunker?

2:09:51Help me out. He's the guy from, I believe he's from Iowa. He's Iowa. He was in the office last year. Yeah, he's offensive lineman. He's got the mullet. I watched their center. I haven't watched the mullet guy. Yeah, the mullet guy. The center can go. The mullet guy, he is becoming extremely marketable. I think ESPN just wrote a giant article about him. That's like the guy from Denver a couple years ago, white guy with dreads, the all-pro, Quinn Miners. Quinn Miners, yeah. who has been incredible. But yeah, this Jennings Dunker guy, I don't know if he's more flat, which is weird to say, like an Iowa offensive lineman, is he too flashy?

2:10:24Is he like too Iowa? Has he gone so far in his Iowaness that he's actually become anti-Iowa? But I guess we'll find out more about that. I did have one more question about the Bills for next year. I don't know what to expect out of the Bills. And I like Joe Brady. I think he's a really smart guy. I think a lot of teams have thought about hiring him in the past, and he's been clearly a great offensive mind for a few years now. What can we expect out of Joe Brady's offense? How is it going to look different from maybe the way that the Bills have operated in the past while having Joe Brady on the staff?

2:11:00Well, the Kyle Long-Buffalo Bill Venn diagram is strongest at the point where Aaron Cromer intersects us. And Aaron Cromer was the offensive line coach slash run game coordinator, and in my opinion, outside of Josh Allen, was the MVP of that offense. and the things that they were able to do was cook and get that offensive line on the same page. It pays dividends for Josh. A lot of what we heard last year towards the end of the year, don't make it all Josh. I think Joe Brady's like, hey, Josh, you want to go make it all you? You want to go be a freak, baller? You want to go LeBron this shit? And I think Josh is like, yeah, I do.

2:11:36And I think what we see next year is the Josh Allen show. And with DJ Moore coming to town, with a few of those offensive linemen still around, this group is still going to be firepower on offense. Who's going to rush the passer in the playoffs? Who's going to be the guy that sends chills down the spine of a tackle on third down? Because they've brought guys in over the course of the last couple years that have been over the hill. Yeah, right. You need young guys with juice. I don't care if it's marquee guys. Rotate three guys that are pretty good or get a really good guy.

2:12:08PFT Commenter:Yeah, yeah. Yeah. All right, Kyle. Last question. Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. Promo code take 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback dot com. Promo code take. I just thought of this because we do have to do a golf video with you. Do you think that any of us here could get a hit off of you? In baseball? Right now, yeah. Probably. Max, for sure. Max, you could take him. I'd K max up. What speed do you throw at right now? It depends on how many A-Bs. we might have to do this. We might have to have him come out. Top half of the inning, he gets nine fastballs.

2:12:44PFT Commenter:Oh, all fastballs? 100%. Oh, shit. How fast do you think he's running? Dude, my shit hurts, bro. I might have to hank this. Imagine if you had to get the top of this. That would suck. Left on left is tough. I'll be honest. I'll be honest, bro. Be a quick one. Yeah, I would get it quick. Oh, man. If it's all fastballs, for sure. If you're that confident, I would just bean you and deal with the consequences. I would wear that shit, too. Shout out to Philly for being an absolute tough guy. He just gets killed over here for his quarterback, his team. Max does, yeah. I like his quarterback. I just think it's sad what they're doing to him in the media.

2:13:25Someone doesn't like him in the building. These fucking Eagles fans, man.

2:13:29PFT Commenter:What happens when a story comes out like that and you're in the locker room, you're like, who the fuck is talking in this locker room? You don't trust anybody. Yeah. He can't even look people in the eye anymore I mean that was the Aaron Cromer Bro I've been Aaron Cromer was the leak that was like Jay is bad I think he walked out of the locker room A reporter was like hey what happened there He's like you want to know exactly what happened there Jay stinks Shout out to Jay I haven't talked to Jay in forever I talked to him a couple months ago He is at peace With the countryside Every other month I'll just see a picture they'll pop up and Jay just like killed an animal.

2:14:10PFT Commenter:Just like wrestling a narwhal. The craziest animal I've ever seen. Yes. I didn't know they made those He's on Tatooine hunting like Having a great time Alright Kyle always great having you on Always great seeing you Appreciate you. You want to plug anything? You got anything to plug? I think we should plug Waterboys Okay yes. The Sweetwater Initiative Also. Still are going to do Kilimanjaro Yeah Killy. I'll be there eventually We're going to do it. Have you never done it? No, I'll take a jet. Oh, so you're with us. Okay. So yeah, we'll do it when you do it. Okay. I still remember before the draft, it was before the Super Bowl, maybe Blake Bortles was nominated for Walter Payton Man of the Year.

2:14:48And we talked to him about that award. And he was like, yeah, you know, I didn't know that the Long brothers were going to deliver water to the entire continent of Africa. It was just one of us. Yeah. So Chris Long ended up getting the Walter Payton Man of the Year award over him. He's a good man. Good charity. Very good charity.

2:15:03PFT Commenter:So that's where we'll leave it. We'll do Kilimanjaro when you do it. You'll do it when we do it. When I'm under 280. And we agreed to just never do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk to you then. All right. Thanks. Thanks, guys. Okay. Let's get to guys on chicks. Before we do that, though, Hank, are we going to rip some packs? It's time to rip, boys. Okay. Let's go. Let's rip. It's our final week of the Rookie Pursuit. We're ripping a 2024 Tops Rookie Box this week. Okay. This comes from Rip Hamilton Rips on Whatnot, the number one live shopping app in the U.S. Final week. I need some Drake May. Which QB should have been drafted first?

2:15:43PFT Commenter:Drake May. Who's primed for the biggest upcoming season? Who has the best autograph, et cetera? You guys ready? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let's do it. Let's rip. So we all have a pack. PFT, would you like to choose which pack you'd like to do first? I would love to. Okay. Shout out. That's a classic OJ Simpson. I'm going to get nine. This is the energy all day long, just way bigger during What Not Card Show. Live shopping, ripping, having fun. Download What Not today and get free shipping on your first order and join in on What Not Card Show 8. The biggest card show on earth from April 30th to May 3rd.

2:16:17PFT Commenter:That's W-H-A-T-N-O-T. Download now. Oh, boy. Hey, fellas. What'd you get? Hey, fellas. What'd you get? Show it. He's here and he's perfect. It's Jaden. It's my guy, Jaden. Look at that, he's wearing the suit Drafted second overall Jaden Daniels It's beautiful What number, is it numbered? It says QB On the front Number 4 out of 75 I got an 8 out of 50 Bo Nicks Bo Levin What did you get? I got a 1 out of 5 What? Caleb Williams Signed auto I want it. I'll trade you this. Bo Nix. Throw in a Jane Daniels. You love Bo Nix. You do love Bo Nix. Max, I'm going to need you. I got my favorite guy. Tanner McKee.

2:17:12PFT Commenter:Who'd you get? Who'd you get? That would be a 23 out of 99 Drake May. Whoa. Everyone knows I'm a Drake May guy. Everyone knows you. You trade with me, and then I can trade with Hank. or trade with Hank and then I'll trade with you. You love Bo Nix. You're Bo Lever. You're Bo Lever. This is hot. All right, good deal. No! Hank, let me see the camera. Hank, you didn't even trade. There you go. Oh, man, this is a... Is that auto? Auto, one out of five. Holy moly. Drake made it so much hotter in this picture, though. Woo! I love it. I love it. okay good job thank you to whatnot go to whatnot download it right now w-h-a-t-n-o-t download whatnot today and join in on whatnot card show eight the biggest card show on earth we're so back from april 30th to may 3rd so back okay before we get to uh guys on chicks Breaking news.

2:18:21PFT Commenter:Don't need the moo cow. This just happened. Diana Rossini has resigned from the athletic. And then she wrote a letter that is. Should I read it? It's long. I'll read it. Please accept this letter as my resignation from the athletic. I can't read effective immediately. I've come to this decision with deep sadness, with clarity about what is right for me, my family and work. I spent my career building. Wait, this is when the page six item first appeared. The Athletic supported me unequivocally, expressed confidence in my work and pride in my journalism. For that, I'm grateful. In the days that followed, unfortunately, commentators in various media have engaged in self-feeding speculation that is simply unmoored from the facts.

2:19:01PFT Commenter:Moreover, this media frenzy is hurtling forward without regard for the review process The Athletic is trying to complete. It continues to escalate, fueled by repeated leaks. And I have no interest in submitting a public inquiry that has already caused far more damage than I'm willing to accept. So she's resigning. her contract was up june 30th or she's resigning from the athletic this story has gone from like tuesday night pictures on page six to whoa we ended up here exactly a week later uh yeah i'm starting to think maybe the girls trip might not have happened i can see from her point of view why she would not want to continue with the the like inquiry yeah especially because like every like couple days there's been something else coming out from the new york times i yeah something trickling out so it's since her contract was coming up anyways i feel like her cutting bait might be the right move at this point it might it's probably right for her to go away with how hot everything is and uh you know she got ratioed to hell on thursday when she tweeted the thing about the refs i would say that it does feel like the original story that was thrown out there when the photos came out has probably not held up to scrutiny and that's part of why she's resigning right now i'm just speculating i have no clue what exactly happened but it does feel like there there might be like hey i i know how this i know the where the wind's blowing i'm out yeah or maybe positioning for a lawsuit i'm not sure yeah i'm not sure but it's the whole situation continues to suck what happens with rabel see that's the thing is like there will be conversations about like a double standard and it it is kind of shitty how and i am speaking from a biased point of view being a friend of hers i'll freely admit that there's been a lot of shit and i think since she lives in the online sports media ecosystem variable doesn't have to see as much shit directed at him yeah uh for essentially being the same part of the same story that people are getting mad at her for uh so i don't know i don't again it goes back to what we're talking about with Jerry um I don't think that either one of them was going to get fired because again based on the pictures that they had I don't think there was a smoking gun to fire somebody over yeah um but with Vrabel I don't think he'll get disciplined at all because he's a football coach and if a football coach can win a football game then they won't be disciplined yeah I think it's like I for for me it's it sucks when anyone loses their job I do think that there's part of it that is probably her own demise like in that that was a bad look I said it from the beginning that was a bad look when you see the pictures you're like I don't we maybe we don't have the full context but the context we're going off of it's not a great look so she was probably gonna have to deal with this for a long time she probably can find a job working in some space in football but maybe it's not insider so I don't know what what's next for her I don't wish her any ill will whatsoever but this also felt like it was coming from the beginning from the photos to the girls trip guys trip thing that didn't really make much sense to you know the zoomed out picture with the beautiful sedona mountains in the background if you just ask anyone on the street take a look at these it's you objectively just gonna say this does not look good and we don't know the context but it seems like we're not gonna get any more context because she resigned so uh the thing about being an insider though it's like if if she breaks stories people are going to pay attention to the stories like true if she gets a story that's the thing it's like yeah it i i think she might have a hard time finding a traditional media outlet like the new york times like espn that's like actively pursuing her right now but i think i saw uh ryan glaspiegel talk about this online i agree with him if she just broke a story online tomorrow yeah people be like oh shit she's back she's breaking stories it's not like that value is going to go away if you're still able to do it right yeah we're uh i'm looking right now at the twitter on the on the screen it looks like bar stool's trending i would assume it's trending because people are saying that she's coming to bar i don't think that's probably going to happen uh would be my guess we are the number one outlet that people speculate people will be hired by yeah we are we're uh like nick saban's uh alabama refugee for coaches.

2:23:19PFT Commenter:Yeah. That's a similar feeling. Also, yeah, so that's it, actually. That's all of it. I don't think anything's going to happen to Vrabel, or we'll find out. He didn't do his media thing, Hank. So he maybe is just staying low profile for a while, and then we'll see wherever Diana pops up again. Don't wish it will, but I also think this was an avoidable situation that kind of feels like what you did is going to have repercussions, especially when you're in this line of work. All right. Let's do guys on chicks. Guys on chicks. Yeah. It's been a fun show. We did everything. We did orcas. We did space.

2:23:54PFT Commenter:We know PFT can shoot a 110 at the Masters. Or no, sorry. Take that back. Wait, how are you going to start off? We know PFT can't shoot a 110 at the Masters. But he for sure can shoot as much as he wants on this pussy. Wait, what? That's not a question. That was a statement. Guys on chicks. That sounds like it was written by an actual female listener. during the show. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Meme sent me that. Meme sent you that one? He's laughing. Meme, you wrote that? No, no. Meme, that's perverted. I read it out loud this morning. Max was like, ah, just send him it. I thought it was a good submission.

2:24:31PFT Commenter:Yeah, listen, it's real. Do you know what I learned today? I don't really know if I want to say this. Oh, yeah. Now you have to. KB told me that there's a trend in the gay community that guys are calling their buttholes pussies. That's just funny to me. My man pussy Yeah just being like Fuck me and my pussy My boy pussy And it's your butthole Yeah I shit out my pussy all the time And then we found out Connor Griffin calls his His butthole his pussy All the time Really Yeah Kind of fucked up That's That's That's That last part was not true Why What The Connor Griffin part The Connor Griffin part Are you talking about the Pirates player No The phenom Yeah Yeah.

2:25:15He calls his butthole his pussy? Connor Griffin or Connor Griffin. The guy on the pirate? The guy that just signed the contract?

2:25:20PFT Commenter:Orange hair Connor Griffin. The guy that just got nutting? Wait, he's dating? Connor Griffin's dating Tate McRae? No. He just wore her on a t-shirt. Which one are we talking about now? K? We're talking about the one that calls his butthole his pussy. C. That's the C, Connor Griffin. Right. Yeah. The rich one. Rich in friendship. Got it. Mm-hmm. Also, we don't talk enough how the president of the Pirates is named Mr. Nutting. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, it's awesome. Should be the Pittsburgh Peanuts. Connor Griffin, the Pirates phenom, was in the office, and he stopped by the Yak, and I asked him if he's going to do anything with his contract, because he signed like$120 million or something.

2:26:03PFT Commenter:He's like, are you going to spend it? And he's like, I'm going to spend it on myself. I was like, that's an awesome answer. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. Very good answer. Yeah. And now's the time to do it. If you're a$140 million extension, he's 19 years old. You want to sign these guys before the next CBA. It's like you get a discount. Yep. Cap's going to go up. Cap goes up. Cap is up. The cap in MLB always goes up. I don't think that the cap can go down in MLB. It's infinity. Think about that. The cap is technically infinity. Yeah. The ceiling is the roof. Hey, did you say they should be called the Pittsburgh Penis?

2:26:36Is that what you said? Peanuts. Peanuts. Oh, why?

2:26:39PFT Commenter:Oh, okay. What's the owner's name? Mr. Nutting. The president. President. Yeah. Max, you hate those colors right now. Think about me. I hate the penguins. Fired up. Fired up. Fired up. You're going to fucking hate all those colors. That does it big. It's going to be an awesome series. Yeah. You should love orchids because they eat penguins. Yeah. Yeah. I hate the penguins. Only some of them. Yeah. Other ones eat salmon. Crosby. Oh. What about Malkin? He can't still be on the team. Gino? I don't think Gino's on the team, is he? Ryan Whitney. Really? So I nailed that? And Paul Bittonette. He's very much on the team.

2:27:18He's 100%. He's like 90.

2:27:20PFT Commenter:They had a whole video of Ovi and Malkin playing with their sons before the last game. They were just playing full-on hockey in his hallway, in his house. Is Le Fleury? Nope, he's gone. Are you talking about? Marc-Andre Fleury? Yeah, the guy that retired a few years ago. Yeah. My friend Jess is mad at her guy best friend Mike because he's hooking up again with Bertha, a girl Jess used to be friends with who previously caused a whole chaotic scene at the bar Mike works at on Thursdays. Back in January, Bertha showed up alone, blackout drunk, made a spectacle, knocking things over, calling Mike her soulmate, chasing him into the bathroom.

2:28:01PFT Commenter:He insulted me out of nowhere, and Mike did absolutely nothing to shut it down. Then still went home with her. afterward Bertha went through his phone read private messages including with Jess spiraled and everything blew up so they stopped talking she later DM me acting like she didn't remember anything calling herself a girl's girl which doesn't exactly match the performance Jess cut Bertha off because of her behavior but now Mike is back hooking up with her again which is why Jess is upset okay so is this real this sounds there's no fucking way someone said this This is a movie. It sounds to me like it might be the plot of a movie or some reality show.

2:28:37No one's named Bertha. I'm sorry.

2:28:39PFT Commenter:Mike should just say Bertha. Don't you come around here anymore? Can we just acknowledge that? Yeah. No one's named Bertha. What is Bertha short for? Bertholomew. Bertholomew. Elizabeth.

2:28:56It's actually Sarah. Yeah. Okay. So if this is true, it sounds like the person that wrote this is being a little bit of a hater on Bertha. yeah so just because bertha comes in like a hurricane they probably call her hurricane bertha she rolls in the bar she doesn't take any prisoners and she ends up sucking face with mike the bartender sounds like this person's just jealous oh roberta huh roberta and alberta

2:29:20PFT Commenter:alberta that's just that's just it's provinces that's canada yeah by the way i can't even someone asked me the other day i think it was chaps like name the provinces couldn't get like i got like four there's uh ontario ontario there's uh winnipeg quebec quebec vancouver uh newfoundland toronto there's alberta british columbia british columbia northwest territory sure there's 13 uh france uh none of it noon of it the one that's the one that's all the islands and icebergs and shit winnipeg i think it's a city and i think that's and Saskatchewan. Okay. Sunnyvale. Oh, wait. Newfoundland's not. No, Newfoundland and Labrador.

2:30:08PFT Commenter:It's Alberta, British Columbia, Manitoba. We didn't get that one. New Brunswick. We didn't get that one. Newfoundland and Labrador. We got that. Northwest Territories. You got that. Nova Scotia. None of it. Ontario. Prince Edward Island. Quebec. Saskatchewan. Yukon. We did pretty good. Yeah. We got like seven. That's honestly the best that Americans can do. Also, we don't need to. That's why we rock. If they want us to learn the different provinces, they should all get sports teams. Yeah. Then we'll figure it out. Yeah. Probably some sick-ass lighthouses up there, too. Oh, yeah. Okay, next one.

2:30:43This one's tough. Do you have anything else to add about Bertha? No.

2:30:47PFT Commenter:I said my piece. No. Do your thing, girl. Yeah. Get it.

2:30:54PFT Commenter:Hi, Big Daddy Cat. What's up? Eric, Hankalicious, Maximus and good boy Zach oh where's memes where's the fucking 11th hole bitch ass memes 18th hole 18th hole I know it said period and bitch ass memes 18th hole is the one that Tiger crashed his car on yeah there's a trend where a lot of gay guys are calling it their pussy yeah the 18th pussy my boyfriend listens to your show every time an episode comes out and ever since you started streaming on Netflix it's all he watches when he comes home from work love that Shout out that guy. This is my work. It's complicated. Uh-oh. I can't watch my mom talk girls, housewives, or anything because he's so adamant on watching you on TV rather than listening in the car.

2:31:41PFT Commenter:Got it. We have one TV in the living room, and with it being the biggest TV in the house, I think it's unfair to use it to watch a podcast rather than watch my shows. Whoa. What can I do to convince him that he should go back to listening to your pod in the car? Whoa. I think we need to just take on a... It's a valid point that she's making. And I think that if this person is having this issue, then there's probably a few thousand couples that are having similar disagreements at home about what to watch on their television. We just need to put in a segment where we do mom talk. Yeah. Housewife talk.

2:32:15PFT Commenter:Listen, we should get the same respect as a TV show. Come on. We put - We're on Netflix. Hours. Multiple hours into doing this idiot jazz. You think we prep? We don't prep. We're in the union. Are we in the union? What union? Podcasters. The army? Podcasters union. Which side would you have fought on? Oh, the north. Which side would you have fought on? In what war? That's a good question. Pick a war. Good question, Hank. Whatever one. I'd fight for... I was about to say. I was thinking about Game of Thrones and Jon Snow, but they were the South.

2:33:06PFT Commenter:Okay. So you ducked the question a little bit. What war? Let's say the... In Game of Thrones, I would have fought against the Lannisters. French-Indian war. I don't know. I don't know anything about that. What about the war on drugs? Was that France versus India? No. Oh. But it's good. It's good that you were saying, yeah, the war on drugs. Which side? I think. I'm on the drug side. Regan was actually, he fucked everything up. Ronald Reagan. What was that? Regan. Reagan. Regan. That was Jack Nicklaus. That was Hank's Jack Nicklaus. I mean, it's spelled, like, how does Regan? It's Ronald Reagan.

2:33:45I mean, everybody knows that it's Ronald. Ronald Reagan. How do you spell? It's also not spelled. It's spelled Reagan. Ronald Reagan. I have a friend named Regan. Shout out Regan. Hank, but no, you and I, we served together in the war on drugs.

2:33:59PFT Commenter:Yeah. And we won. I think we won. I think every war that I've taken part in, I think I've won. War on Christmas. I won that one. Defending Christmas. We're saying it again. Hell yeah. War on drugs. Massive dub. But yeah. Reagan. Bad guy. Anti-Reagan. All right. Cool. yeah in in what way didn't he just like pop you know he he faked the war on drugs but that was actually like sending drugs into the ecosystem fucked a lot of people up he had a uh a meth lab in the west wing that's great exactly yeah well him yeah nixon nixon also all right last one uh we know pft can't shoot a 110 at the masters but he for sure can shoot as much as he wants on this pussy.

2:34:55PFT Commenter:Oh, fucking callback king right there. That was good, Hank. More like PFT commenter. That was fucking good, dude. Whoa. My microphone. Uh-oh. We got to get news. Have you guys? Hank's shaking his head. He's rolling his eyes. It's not in the budget. I just wanted to say something. It's not in Hank's budget. And we could say no. what if maybe sometime this summer we just do a little overhaul something fresh something new you're just seeing other shows in this office do this and then you're like oh I want that's actually not at all what it is no it's not I can tell you exactly what it is I'll tell you what it is my mic stand breaks we can fix the mic stand every time I lean back in my chair 17 things fall on my head yeah these shelves are not stable the shelves are bad Kyle How long was knocking his arms and head on that show?

2:35:48PFT Commenter:We can get new shelves. It would be cool if we had colored microphone covers. Just pop, something different. I think the viewers could deal with new stuff behind us. We've been in this studio for, what, three years now? Like, what? Just something new? Every now and then you do a remodeling? Yeah, I agree. Why are you shaking your head? How about we get our little R. Kelly TV working? Why? I don't know. that thing is the funniest thing ever I don't think anyone's listening or watching even knows what I'm talking about but there is a size like 15 inch TV that's just above the studio that makes no sense and by R.

2:36:26PFT Commenter:Kelly the meme of R. Kelly watching on a small TV is what he's referring to so no? I'm in I'm down so why are you shaking your head? Don't shake your fucking head this has been a theme I mean we're 10 years in this has been you do this often what or like you just randomly just like let's just remodel i think the remodel by the way is not like a crazy remodel it's literally get things that don't fall on our heads and fix the microphones bring in real shelves real i don't know what that means a real shelf watch i'll show you see that when i go like that whoa things are gonna fall down see like stuff could have fallen Everything could have fallen.

2:37:13PFT Commenter:It could have been really bad. Replacing the shelves and remodeling are two different things. It's a guy remodel. So replacing the shelves is remodeling. What do you mean? It's actually not different things at all. But hypothetically, if you were at your house and you bumped into the shelf, would things not fall off there? I'd fucking throw that shelf in the trash. No, you know why? I'd shoot it with a gun. Because I got shelves in my house for men. Yeah. We have pussy shelves. I think we just need to maybe move you guys up. And maybe if you looked behind where your guys' seats are, where you guys have just thrown so much shit.

2:37:46PFT Commenter:Okay, all right. Why don't you shut the fuck up? I need all this stuff. We're talking about the shelves, Hank, and you're distracting. This bat? This putter cover? That's a sick putter cover. This trophy, Iowa, the Heartland Trophy? All this shit? This Cubs jacket? Sick Cubs jacket? It looks like that extra small. Hank, there's also... What about you, PFT? What about me? This does fit me. Fuck you. What about me, Hank? You have a mountain. I got a pile. Yeah, I got a pile. We're not talking about my pile. Let's remodel your pile. No, the pile is first. That's a nice jacket. Hey, bitch. Oh, look.

2:38:27PFT Commenter:What is... Oh, it's a towel from the playoffs. Fuck yeah. That's a nice jacket. I took this jacket off after the playoffs and never put it back on. It's not a jacket. It's a great jacket. It's a perfect, Hank. Yeah. Look, I got... Oh, look. Found another Hank doll. Oh, no. It was down there. Look, this boy in green. Pudge the cat. Need that. Got my hat with every NFL team on it. My dog was... Osos. Shout out to Osos. Our Mexican football team going to need this. My dog was big on the Hank toy yesterday And then she pissed on my face twice last night Yeah fuck yeah Oh this is when my ear wouldn't pop Yeah I got the fucking ear pop I've also got my shirt With all the NFL team logos on it Oh nice This is important shit That we need that you want us to just Throw away These are some bitch made shelves Whoever decided to buy these shelves I'd like to know their name I just can't That's the one I can't get over Zach, football guy, check mark, intercourse guy No check mark What shelves could we put up That, like they're fucking shelves It's a shelf It is solid It's holding all your shit Hank, see the Pope He's got no fucking head and he's weak on crime Because you keep running into the shelves Hank doesn't get it Hank wouldn't understand You don't get it Hank Hank's anti-Reagan, anti-Pope Fucking Pope is weak on crime There have been many people saying that He's weak on the border Oh what a quote What a quote Okay good show boys Numbers 56 Yeah we could just move everything up No dude the shelves Hank doesn't want us to exist that's the problem He doesn't want to see us happy No we can't move everything Hank doesn't want to see us happy I'm going to go with I'll go with 69 Happy birthday to that gorilla 58 I'll go with 23 24 17 Colton are you sunned up 82 Give us a little word on the sun 6 The future's bright The future's bright for the Phoenix Suns Samari Bouye is the fucking truth.

2:41:01What if you lose? Devin Booker, certified. You better say his name. Jalen Green. Nope. Dylan Brooks. No. Dylan Brooks is a game changer.

2:41:10PFT Commenter:Better say his name. We got a bully. Say his name. New guy, Malawak. Colton. You better say his name. Oh, Colin Gillespie. Thank you. Yeah, the GOAT. The GOAT. Colin Gillespie. Are we just not going to talk about Grayson Allen? I can't hear you. You just get the number? 22. Oh. Let's see one more. You get it? No, Big had it. 23. 23. So close. I should take 11. I take 11? Three? You can't change. Unless you want to. No. I can't change. 67. 67. 67. Happy birthday to Antonio Cromartie. and Sexy Red. Did you miss anyone on Monday? Nah. I saw Sexy Red at the Eagles Super Bowl celebration. Did you miss anyone on Monday?

2:42:07PFT Commenter:Of course not. Chief Mikey Betts. I did miss... Mikey Betts confronted me. He confronted me yesterday when I walked into the office and he said, you forgot my birthday. And I said, I'm sorry, Mikey. Happy birthday. He's like, no. That's too late. And I said, yeah, you're right. I do respect it. It was also Chief's birthday. It's also Chief's 40th birthday. It's tough because when you got a big boy like Brandon Walker. He takes up all the oxygen. He sucks up all the birthdays. Yeah, he does. He's like Kirby. He becomes 100 % birthday. And that's all he did yesterday. He's shaking that cake around everywhere.

2:42:41One giant birthday. So, yeah, happy belated birthday to Mikey Betts, even though it doesn't mean anything. I'll get you next year. And then Chief, I probably won't.

2:42:50PFT Commenter:I thought you'd have the directory of people that work here. Those should be the easiest ones. Yeah, he just doesn't like them. No, he doesn't like Chief or Mikey Betts. You say Chief's behind the scenes? Mikey Betts? I didn't say Chief. Mikey Betts is content, brother. He's half and half. Yeah, no, I combo. He could do some content. But he's in the system behind the scenes. He's allowed to do content, but he's in the system. If you're saying it's behind the scenes, he's in the system. He didn't opt into my behind the scenes birthday spreadsheet. I love Mikey Betts. Happy birthday, Mikey Betts.

2:43:21PFT Commenter:Happy birthday, Chief. Might be too late. Really happy birthday to all you guys. Anyone who's got a birthday. And anyone. Yeah, all the people out there. Future and past birthday. But seriously, right now what you guys are doing is very mean to Antonio Cromartie and Sexy Red, whose birthday it is today. Also, happy birthday to the Washington Commanders New Jerseys that are coming out today. Oh, nice. On the 15th. Nice. So we are turning things around in D.C. Nice. Love you guys. Justice for Tom Lai. Happy birthday, Baker Mayfield. How did you miss that? Come on, BFT. Who, who, who? Baker Mayfield.

2:44:03PFT Commenter:Happy birthday. Good thing we got Antonio Camardi in sexy red. Zach just slid it in. Not just a fucking guy that we love. It's not. There's no way it's Baker Mayfield. April 14th, great guy. Oh, so it's right now. It's not the 15th when the show comes out. Well, actually, this show could come out. We taped early. It could come out on the 14th. When we put the show out, if I had said a birthday that was not on the day, we all remember what happened to Frank Kaminsky. I get chewed out. This show will be on April 14th. Happy birthday to Baker Mayfield. Thank you, Seth. Happy birthday, Bake. Love you guys.

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NHL playoffs are set and PFT’s 45 percent chance has disappeared. We do a little nba play in choose your own adventure (00:00:00-00:18:22). Hot Seat/Cool Throne include a deep dive on orcas, space, Dallas Wings love, Todd Haley and more (00:18:22-00:50:27). Joe Mazzulla joins the show to talk about the Celtics season, winning PMT COTY, the guillotine rule in his house, keeping intensity and more (00:50:27-01:33:57). Kyle Long joins us in studio to catch up on football, what the draft and pre draft was like for him, this years draft and more (01:33:57-02:13:37). We finish with the breaking news of Dianna Russini’s resignation plus Guys on Chicks


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