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28:02You can't be hesitant to shuck. That's how people get hurt. The only way you get into the playoffs is if they get shucked up. Yes, but they could get shucked up without full backing of shucking, but I'm here to shuck. If we have to shuck, we'll shuck. No, no, but I think you're getting confused here, okay? That could be also very well true. So the confusion I think we're seeing here is that you think that this – so let's say the Bucs win, and then on Sunday you're rooting for Tyler Shuck to not play well but the Saints to win because you're living in denial that Tyler Shuck is somehow not the next greatest quarterback in the NFL history, and he is.

28:40I don't want to put myself in a denial situation. You are, though. You're in denial right now. I would like there to be a world where things go positive. Have you seen how catchable his ball is? Yeah. It's so catchable. I'm going to have to pull up some highlights. Zach, he's an athlete. He is. He's an athlete. In what world, Zach, do the Saints win that game and Tyler Shuck doesn't play good? But even if he doesn't play good in that game and they win that game, he still is going to be the best quarterback in the NFC South. I would like for them to win in him. Look at that. Look how catchable that is.

29:11Oh, my God. This is also a highlight tape. This is too fair. This is all 22. It fucking floats into their hands. It's like a little raindrop. Oh, my God. There's velocity on it that you don't even know because it looks so soft. It's like catching a snowflake on your tongue. Oh. Look at him evade pressure like this. Dot. Quick release. Look at this. The thing just floats up there. Hey, oh, you want to just put your hands out and have it just fall into your hands? Sure. Look, tight window throws. Could you imagine this guy not winning rookie of the year? No, he's a rookie of the year hands down.

29:46Easily. Hands down. All right, so get on the Shucks train because you're going to need him if you win on Saturday. I need the Saints to win, but are we drinking too much of the Shuck? No. No. No. No, not enough. I had to ask. I actually would like to waterboard you with Tyler Shuck highlights. I'm currently doing it. Yeah. He's got it up right now. All right, Hank, my question for you. Everything good? Everything's great. Yeah, I miss you guys. Yeah, but everything good. Yeah, everything's great. Okay. What's going on? I don't know what's going on. It's a weird week. Why don't you give some context to the people?

30:23There was some reports that came out about accusations made against some Patriots players. Stephon Diggs, Barrymore. The statements from the Patriots are interesting because they're like, we trust Stephon Diggs. And with the other one, they were kind of like, we're just going to let this play out legal due process. It was from August. Yeah, the Barrymore one was from a while ago, but it came out this last week. Robert Kraft and the Patriots are a solid organization. I think that if they have a player that's in legal trouble, they would immediately do the right thing if there was any merit to it.

31:04Right? Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to speak on an ongoing legal situation. I think you've got to just let it play out. That's what we do every day. It's true, yeah. You've got to take the appropriate action. Are you worried at all that this might be a distraction? I'm not worried at all. I think in these situations, especially with a guy like Vrabel, it can almost help kind of galvanize of like there's outside distractions. We need to just focus on what's inside the building and what's in front of us. We should say, too, on the positive side, congratulations. It feels like Drake May is going to win the MVP.

31:36It does. It definitely feels that way. Matthew Stafford's Monday Night Performance kind of submitted it. Yeah, and third place in the division. I don't think there's been MVPs that finish that well in the division. Yeah, I think it's Drake's. are you and it's well deserved do you care at all about sunday's game because the the chargers are not playing anyone so the broncos should win yeah but the chargers the thing about the chargers is they're a ball club like top to bottom that's starters and backups when you have a coach like jim harbaugh as i've kind of learned from you guys like if you're a ball club it's not just the starters it's the whole team that goes all the way down to like the equipment managers so play all your guys keepers you don't need to play i think they can still win i'm holding out hope so yes i i am focused on you know winning against the dolphins and and i believe in in the chargers well i think you got to win anyway because the jags if they win could jump you yeah so you don't want that are you concerned at all with uh with quinn yours no the i mean the dolphins always like the the the end of season games against the dolphins are always weird with the Patriots.

32:46They always have been going back to the Brady era. So I am not overlooking the Dolphins in the way I would like the Jets. So yeah, I'm a little concerned. I think, especially with all the ongoing stuff outside of the locker room, they've got to extra focus and get it done this week. But I believe in the Chargers. They're a ball club. They're an absolute ball club. Dig should get engaged. He should actually get engaged right now as like a PR thing. New Leaf. Maybe after the game. Maybe after the game, taking it. It was fun listening to the podcast and hearing you say that before Max interrupted.

33:25I was like, what is he talking about? I was getting so mad. I kind of had the feeling of listeners when we just say stuff that's not true before it gets corrected. When have we ever done that? If it doesn't get corrected because I was like, no, we didn't. I was like, what is he talking about? Did you see the picture? I did see the picture, but I didn't. It was one picture in one tweet. I got you. I looked it up. Multiple tweets. Multiple tweets. Hank, did you know that Diggs, if he gets 30 yards on Sunday, he gets 1 ,000 for the season, and he would make 500 grand in contract incentives. Pretty cool.

33:59That's cool. Do you think we should bet on that? Yeah. I think it's a good bet. I think Derek Mays, he likes to spread it out. He takes care of his guys. Okay. If he won 500 grand, do you think, what kind of meals would you get with that? probably get a lot of meals. I have a question. I think you would get two. Two chefs. Do you think it's disrespectful that teams are trying to get the seventh seed? Is that officially something that's happening? I don't know. I just looked. I just. This one person said this. It's a good question. Well, Bills and Chargers, both resting starters. Josh Allen and Justin Herbert are both injured.

34:38They could be trying to get the seventh seed. Do you think so? I don't. Bring it on. Bring it on The Guilty as Charged podcast said they're aiming for the 7th seed I feel like it's more that Josh Allen and Justin Herbert are both injured So you don't trust the Guilty as Charged? Listen, I like the Guilty as Charged guys I just don't I don't know I guess I don't know Maybe they brought up a good point I have no idea It also happens to be that both of the quarterbacks are dealing with injuries If you've watched Justin Herbert over the last month or so and just seeing the abuse that he's taken. I think it's probably a good move to rest him up for a little bit.

35:17But far be it for me to disagree with guilty as charged. So how would it work out if... We'd play the Chargers. You would play the Chargers? Ball club. If the Bills win and the Broncos lose. Or if the Broncos win, you'd play the Chargers? It's pretty... I feel like we're going to play the Chargers. You don't think the Bills with Mitch Trubisky can't beat the Jets? If the Bills beat the Jets and the Chargers lose, will we play the Bills? Yeah. Wait, hold on. I'm looking right now. Hold on. I'm looking it up. I got the Jaguars winning. Right now the Bills are the seventh seed. Yeah, if the Chargers lose and the Bills win, then it would be the Bills would go to, yeah, the sixth seed.

36:13If both lose, the Bills would be the seventh seed. What are you rooting for? You're rooting to play the Chargers. Yeah, duh. So they want you and you want them. I want the one seed. That sounds like, yeah, mutually agreed upon. Yeah. I'd rather play the ball club than the Bills. Okay. Do you think the Bills are ball club? No, I do. Bills are good. It would really be sick if they did the seedings by, you know, you get the conference winners get a home playoff game, and then we just do a draft. Like the Patriots literally come out and say, we want to play the Chargers. Is there any way for the draft?

36:57That would be so sick. I think every team would just be like Steelers. Yeah. No, no. The Steelers, no, no, because they would have a home playoff. As a division champion. Yeah, yeah. So the division champs get to call out someone. Yeah. Yeah, from either conference. The Jags can also get the QC, right? I think people have had this idea before, but it would be very fun. So you have to win. Instant Bolton board. Yeah. Got it. Okay, so you're going to get the Chargers. I don't know, man. Unless the Jets somehow win. Or the Patriots lose and the Jags win. Or the Chargers win. That's why they play the games, boys.

37:30There's so much going on. And then if the Broncos and Patriots lose, Jaguars won seed. Yeah. Yeah. That would be crazy. That would be crazy. That would be nuts. Okay, we got anything else before we get to our weekend preview? You guys got any resolutions? Yep. Zip line. Oh, you're going to try a zip line? I just want to zip line more. I've never zip lined. So just got to do it once. So more than zero time. Yeah, I'm not. Whoa, what are you looking at me like that for, Max? I'm not talking about like the Amazon zip lines. I'm talking about like Wisconsin Dells just go from like one end of a warehouse to another.

38:03Oh, you're talking about like an indoor like trampoline park that has a zip line into a phone. Dude, easy. Okay. I haven't done it. I would like to do it. Is that not a good New Year's resolution? That's good. It's attainable. Why is it zipline? I think my resolution is I want to be a happy birthday guy. Like a guy that remembers people's birthdays and sends the text. It's like, hey, happy birthday. I'm one for one so far. Okay. I had him Stanford Steve. Oh, yeah. Is his birthday today? I think it was the 31st of December. So that doesn't even. That's last year. But I think I texted him a day late.

38:37So you're 0 for 1 You missed it on both accounts No I think it counts The text was sent in the new year But you missed his birthday You forgot his birthday You forgot his birthday I texted him yesterday It was last year You haven't done it yet Have you ziplined yet? No I said it's my new year's resolution I didn't say I'm 1 for 1 Mine is to become a happy birthday guy You just said you're 1 for 1 I was practicing I was okay. I was one for 365 last. Well, we've been dieting this week. But I'm hot right now. You're ready to go. I'm hot right now. Yeah. You're going to get your, yeah. You're just putting in some red.

39:14It's preseason. Wait, wait, wait. Let me see whose birthday, who has a birthday on January 1st. LeBron's birthday was yesterday. Yeah. I already did my one for yesterday. Ice Spice. Shout out Ice Spice. Happy birthday, baby. January 1st. Well, she's going to be listening to this on the second. You need to text her. Yeah. You need to get someone on the second. You're going to text her. But I'm doing it on the first. Right. But she's not going to hear it until the second. That's fine. I'll do too. No. Do someone's. Shouting out on a podcast is a little pretentious too. No. I think that counts. But you got to find someone on the second.

39:48No. All right. Who we got? These are people. The famous birthday. Fernando Tatis Jr. Okay. Fernando Tatis. Let's go. Taye Diggs. Happy birthday, Fernando. Keep it gooding. Fernando Dax Shepard is a podcast guy It's his birthday on January 2nd Competition, I don't want to drive What's your guys do to your resolutions? I want to do jujitsu What? Missoula, yeah, I mean I've told Missoula You're just becoming Chef Donnie For a couple years You and Chef Donnie are just slowly, slowly becoming one in the same I don't think I'm going to like doing it And I don't think I'm going to like do it We'll see I've just told him that I'm going to try it Chef Donnie does do it That is part of it more just because it's like It would be easy for me He's got a place to go to So it's not like I have to find a place and go alone But yeah I told him I'd do it And I want to do it Do you think the jujitsu is going to interfere with your golf schedule?

40:52It's winter What if you get injured? That is a concern That's a major concern What about the guys in the booth? We got any New Year's resolutions? We are on a diet. Cycling. Oh. Cycling classes. You need to get in a skin-tight Lance Armstrong suit. Yep. Nope. You look good. But yeah, I took one cycling class this week, and I was dreading it. And then by the end of it, I was like, this isn't so bad. This is like good. Were you going fast enough? Yeah. No, I was. Me and Ibo did it. I think he burned a little bit more calories than me, but we were in the same ballpark. So you guys can cycle together, but me and Chef Tony can't go to jiu-jitsu together?

41:29I didn't say that you can't. I just said that you are. You're turning into Ebo, Max. Yeah. Yeah. Good. He's got a great body. Yeah, Ebo's a skinny guy. Yeah. I would have to get shorter. I was about to say it. I was about to say it. I was about to say it. Max, we'll get you going on a Peloton. We'll do Buns of Anarchy. No, I'm an in-person guy. Okay. Ebo doesn't do Peloton. Sorry for trying to help. Yeah. What about you, Zach? I'm thinking about trying to become a little bilingual this year. I would like to try to learn Spanish. Damn, you guys are really showing me up. I'm just going to get on a fucking zipline at a kid's park.

42:09That takes balls. We've got jiu-jitsu and bilingual. Well, yours is actually going to happen. Right. I like to do New Year's resolutions. I remember a few years ago, I did a New Year's resolution to drink more apple juice. I had apple juice like three times. Crushed it. That was it. You've got to do things that are attainable. Last year, I did bake bread. But I think I baked two things of bread and they didn't work. You were going to make us sandwiches all the time. You never did. The deli slicer is so hard to clean that it's just not worth it. All right. So bilingual what language? I would like to be dangerous enough to communicate in Spanish.

42:44Dangerous. Just because I'm thinking about eventually in life I should get a passport and maybe go somewhere. And Spanish, the utility on learning Spanish is so much utility. Yeah, it is. So are you going to take courses or are you going to listen to podcasts? YouTube is saying download a lot of apps. Duolingo. He's just going to fucking play Call of Duty with Spanish dudes. Yeah, reset your server. That would be funny. Just talk shit in Spanish. Also, January 3rd, happy birthday to two of my favorites, Mel Gibson and Greta Thunberg. What a dynamic duo on January 3rd. If they listen to this January 2nd...

43:21Happy birthday in advance. Take this day for yourselves, guys. Memes, what do you got? I'm going to become a winner. Oh, yeah? Georgia. You are a Georgia fan. I'm 0 for 1 right now. Yeah, so I should have come to you for this game. That was tough. It's okay. Do you have any thoughts on it? Did you see that Kirby press conference I referenced? I did not. Oh, where he was talking about success. No, everything was right in front of him. I thought the script was leaning towards Georgia. Win this game. Go play Carson Beck. then go play dan lanning old dc unfortunately chambliss turned into joe burrow yeah yeah stuff last year all right we do show more hold on i want to hear him but show more i want to read the quote yeah so he said um some coaches get the most out of their teams and don't win the national championship and that's a hell of a year we used to be able to credit a lot of people for a hell year unfortunately it's gotten to win it all or nothing i don't evaluate our success that way that's a quote from a guy who's like hey just so everyone knows we might not be winning it all this year yeah if you're if you're dropping that yeah i know what you're saying but he did have the defense playing incredible like towards the end of the season and then they just had a month off yeah no i i i'm not saying that georgia couldn't have i mean they they could have won it all this year they were they were a very good team i i think kirby smart when he won back-to-back national championships might not have had the same quote because he had the war machine yeah they don't they don't got the guys on defense but he was having them play at a very high level towards the end of the season yeah he said it in that um what is it before the fourth quarter he's like we got to play with more violence we don't play with it we're not playing with enough violence yeah and that was the first game they lost out of 76 when they had a fourth quarter lead wow yeah That's pretty crazy.

45:19Got chamblissed. Yeah, they have a formula. Unfortunately, they got chamblissed. Yeah. What were our new resolutions last year? Big Cat, become a regular at a dive bar. Didn't do that. I got to do that. Read one Michael Lewis book. Didn't do that. Got to do that. Hank, get a physical. I did do that. Nice. Okay. Go to the dentist. Yeah. I did do that at the very end of the year. Because I had a cavity, and I now have to get a major oral surgery, but I have to get like a significant oral surgery, probably because I waited so long to go to the dentist. But I did go to the dentist. You got a root canal coming?

45:54I have to. Also, my wisdom teeth are coming in, apparently. Shout out to AJ Brown, by the way, for just getting his wisdom teeth out week 18. Yeah. I have a problem with a tooth that has a root canal. So they have to like, you have to go to a specialist. Specialists can only do Thursdays and Saturdays. No, it's on a tooth that already has a root canal. He got the root canal done, and then that root canal now is no good. Ah. Yeah. So I have to go to the specialist. They're trying to schedule it, and it's like, oh, Thursday or Saturday. And I literally had to say, I have to wait until Sunday to see, like, when the Patriots are playing.

46:30And that was a weird text to send to basically, like, I've never even talked to this person in real life. I was just texting the front desk or whatever, and I was like, I'll let you know on Monday, but I have to see some work scheduling, which is just the Patriots. That's a reasonable accommodation. PFT, drink more water. Yeah. Six-pack by the summer. You had a six-pack this summer? The back. The back through that. But you definitely drank a six-pack. I drank many six-packs this summer. Yeah. Get new planes on the flight simulator. Did that? Yeah. Definitely did that. Picked up the F-15E Strike Eagle.

47:05That thing's a fucking missile truck. Max, lose weight. Gained weight. learn how to bake bread I you tried you Donnie you Donnie baked bread and you just if you watched any of those videos Donnie didn't even show up half the time I didn't so would you did you learn how to bake bread no okay by the way I'm counting my New Year's resolutions even though those ones listed did not hit I'm counting his check mark on all my New Year's resolutions I got an ice cream machine that was like a life goal of resolution yeah Memes. Go to a doctor. I went to a dentist. Not the same. No, that's a doctor. It is, yeah.

47:50And get at least two more TVs. Oh, yeah. You. I only got one. Oh, no. Memes. Shane's was to try an apple and learn Italian. Okay. And Pugs was play NFL Blitz more and cook for himself more. Okay, nice. I don't think he. That Blitz machine doesn't get used. Pug uses it sometimes, though. Pug definitely uses it. In addition to the zipline, I'm going to try to become an ice bath guy. Okay? Love that. Notice I said try to become. Yeah. I'm not going to commit myself to becoming one because I might be a pussy. Yeah, the ice bath sounds really good until you actually do the ice bath. But if I can do it and I become one, I'm basically a Navy SEAL.

48:38So that's what's at stake here. Pussy or Navy SEAL? We will find out. I'm excited. Cast your bets now. Yeah. Okay. Let's crush 2026, huh? We're all going to get jacked up. We're going to get skinny. I'm just going to get less fat. I just got to be less fat. I have my doctor's appointment to see if I can get on TRT. So that's coming up. I'll let you guys know how it goes. I wouldn't mind if we all just did it together. I don't think I'm going to do TRT. Wait till you see how fucking ripped I become I would I might just leave this podcast for the Navy Seals I will say though that spending the entire day at the office January 1st on a new diet And we did like a Super Bowl Because it's a football day It's hard It's very difficult You talk about temptations around every corner While you're at the office I walk one way There's seven pizzas I turn around and there's an ice cream machine And there's wings There's wings And there's candy And there's Chinese food.

49:40We just got to get ourselves. And there's canes. I did. I held out. I did, too. I had four wings. Six. But that wasn't that many. And one slice of pizza. And 20 Chinese foods. Ten wings. And one ice cream cone. But I also walked on the treadmill. It was a small cone, though, right? Yeah, it was a small cone. Okay. Before we get to our week 18 picks and preview, DraftKings, the stage is set. The college football playoffs are here. Every snap, every drive, every touchdown. DraftKings Sportsbook, the number one sportsbook for live betting, puts you right at the center of the action. From real-time wagers to season-ending thrillers, DraftKings keeps you in the game from kickoff to the final whistle.

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50:56Void in Ontario. Restrictions apply. Bet must win to receive bonus bets which expire in seven days. Minimum odds required. For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, is cdkng.co slash audio. Limited time offer. Are we going to do a quick touchdown parlay? We got to do one, right? Yep. Yep. All right. Afternoon games. I think we got to throw. I'll throw one out there. I think they play in the afternoon. Trey McBride scores every week. I feel like he's still trying. You like that? I like it. Trey McBride. What do you got, Hank? Anything? We got to do Ravens Steelers too. Someone on the Bills?

51:32What about Hunter Henry? Oh. James Cook. Remember talking about him getting the rushing title? I feel like maybe we throw him in there. I like that. And then what about you? What should we do with Steelers-Ravens? We could do one in the night game. You like Hunter Henry? We could throw Hunter Henry in there. Steelers-Ravens. I'm going to go. I'm going to say Flowers. Okay. Hank, do you want to do Hunter Henry instead of Trey McBride? No, I can do Trey McBride. Okay. So Trey McBride, James Cook, Zay Flowers. Or should we just go chalk and go Derek Henry? Oh, he's got a sneeze. Is that a sneeze or a toothache?

52:13He's got a sneeze. I'm good. Does sneezing hurt your tooth? No. That's good. What should we do? Should we do Derek Henry? Booth, you make the call. We need help from the booth. Derek Henry. Let's win the last. Let's go. Zay Flowers. Which one? Derek Henry. All right. So Derek Henry, Trey McBride, James Cook. Love it. Okay. And then, so we'll have that up there for the people. Max is going to put it out there right now. Let's see what it ends up being. McBride's not out. Okay, so then do Hunter Henry. There we go. Decisions made. We got two Henrys. Two Henrys. Oh, wow. There's one a righty and one a lefty.

52:56Is there a third one we could get? This isn't out yet. I feel like... Is there another Henry? Search for another Henry. This is important. Oh, the Henry parlay would be incredible. Yeah, that would be the Henry dog. We do Hunter Henry and Derek Henry to score two? The Henry dog? That would be insane. Actually, not that insane. Not Derek Henry. Yeah. Hunter Henry. All right, well, we'll have it up there. Before we do week 18, it is brought to you by Uber Eats. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats, reminding fans that if football coincidentally makes you hungry, you can get game day deals on wings, burgers, beers, chips, and more all season long on Uber Eats.

53:36You'll love being able to get all your personal favorite game day foods delivered on Uber Eats so you never miss a play. Boys, are we doing Super Bowl Sunday? Let's do clean Saturday, Super Bowl Sunday. Flip it. What? Well, I'm probably not going to be there on Saturday, so clean Sunday. Oh. Or clean Sunday. Okay. Well, let's do clean Saturday, Super Bowl Sunday. You agree? PFT? I'm trying to be good. Why don't we do double clean? Okay, double clean. We'll double clean it up. We could do maybe some bowls. Let's get steaks. Let's get Donnie to make us steaks. Let's eat some steak dinners. That would be awesome.

54:14Okay. All right. We'll get Uber Eats steaks here. He'll cook for us. So you love being able to get all your personal favorite game day foods delivered on Uber Eats so you never miss a play. When football makes you hungry, get game day deals all season long. only on Uber Eats. Okay, here's our week 18 picks and preview, and then Jerry O 'Connell. Okay, week 18, PFT, we are here. It is here. We have very few games that mean anything. Saturday, we have two of them. The ones that do mean stuff. Mean a lot. Mean a lot of stuff. Mean a lot. Saturday, we have two games that mean a lot. We have the potentially the Saints-Falcons game meaning a lot.

54:52There's some seating in the NFC that still can happen. There's obviously Sunday Night Football, which will mean a lot um but yeah it's it's we we have all of our playoff teams that you know outside of obviously the afc north and nfc south the other six spots are already set i'm excited though there's still some good games and we got to figure out incentives we got to get some because this is the last slate you got to enjoy the last sunday slate i know that there's a lot of games they're like oh fuck this game who's gonna try i'm gonna try i'm gonna try and and win some bets yeah there's there's going to be a lot of stuff that comes out as the week goes on and on and on where we find out who's playing who's not yes and there's some teams that don't have anything to play for it that it sounds like they're gonna play everybody right because it's football right and that's what you do and we love it you try to win games yeah okay so let's get into it saturday panthers at bucks bucks are minus two and a half over under is 43 and a half the panthers if they win it's a it's a t-shirt and hat game they're in if the bucks win there There will not be T-shirts and hats in the locker room because they then need Tyler Shuck to beat the Falcons.

56:00It's a ridiculous way for this NFC South season to end, but it's also great. I think the Panthers are better than the Bucs. I just can't quit Baker Mayfield. Yeah, so the Panthers have won every other week since week seven. Yes. Which would mean that this would be a winning week for them, but they're also not very good away from home. They also are undefeated as, or sorry, all eight of the Panthers' wins this season have come as underdogs. Yep. So they're not undefeated as underdogs because they've lost games as underdogs, but all eight of their wins have come as underdogs. So they've checked that box.

56:36At least they're not favored in this game. I want to know what happens if the Bucs win this game. Where do they watch the game? Where do they watch the Falcons-Saints game? Do they get together as a team? Is it like college football? I think it's college basketball, March Madness. They all get together in their jumpsuits and they sit around. In the gym. yeah they go in the gym they watch on the big screen i would like to see that happen any bucks players you want to come watch it in the gambling cave and watch tyler shuck listen we've been we've we've had some good things happen with tyler shuck in the gambling game yeah the shuck in here so you're ready to go we're ready we'll invite anyone who wants to come i i am weird i like both these teams have flaws obviously the bucks winning would obviously like would give us another meaningful game so i think i'm rooting for the bucks in that in just that reason yeah it's no there's no panthers slander it's just i want another meaningful game on sunday and i want it to be the shuck versus the falcons i'm fine with whatever the result is there so like i'm fine with the panthers getting in i just want one more meaningful game i think i'm gonna bet on the bucks to win because it it feels like with the home field advantage uh i think that they're a better team than the Panthers on the road but the Bucs suck man they do suck for fucking two months now they do suck like how long can we go where we're just like this team just sucks so I I think I'm gonna bet on the Buccaneers and then I'm also going to bet on Chuck okay so like a correlated Bucs to make the playoffs I think so yeah although I mean all the signs do point to the Panthers winning the Super Bowl with Ohio State Jennifer Lopez filing for divorce I far be it for me to turn my nose up at the universe but um i think sometimes you just got to go with your gut and i i think overall the bucks should be a better team yeah i don't know do you think that if the bucks make the playoffs even if they limp in let's say they no i'm gonna answer your question before you even finish it no well do you know what i was gonna ask i don't know but i'm gonna say but the answer is no because the question was not gonna be about if they're gonna be dangerous in the i don't think that they would yeah that's a no and the reality is you'd rather be the five seed than the four seed in the playoffs if you look at the history of how those seeds do.

58:47I think... I think Todd Bowles would save his job if he made the playoffs that's what I was going to ask if if they bring him back no matter what if they make the playoffs let's say they lose by 10 points in the first round i don't know i think they should get rid of him he sucks i agree but i think he's he's this could be his third straight division title and he's still and he's what he'll be one game over 500 yeah it's insane you know what's a fun fact is the uh both these teams are two of the teams that have made the playoffs with losing records yeah i think there's like four or five Ron Rivera's year.

59:20Yeah, I remember he did the press conference after. So we will hit on some incentives and milestones that are going on in Week 18. I don't think that applies for this game necessarily because it's obviously a very important game. So they're not like, hey, let's just get this guy the ball. But one that I did see, Sterling Shepard needs one reception for$125 ,000. Okay, he'll get that. I feel like Baker's a teammate that would do that. They could figure out a way to make that happen. 29 yards for another$125 ,000. So if you – I don't know how many catches what his line is going to be, but I'm going to try to figure out a way for him to get one catch.

59:56Yeah, you know how a lot of teams are trying to figure out the best way to handle the new Sam Schwartzstein dynamic kickoff? Yeah. Todd Bullis has just given up on it. Oh, yeah, he said that. Yeah, he said, Chase McLaughlin, no matter what, just kick it out of the back of the end zone. That's one less thing I have to worry about. He's got a lot on his plate, all right, Chase? It's insane. Insane that he – like a coach would come up and just say, like, I can't figure this out. Yeah. Tell you what, I know they're not going to score a touchdown if you kick it out of the back of the end zone. Todd Bowles is just like us because I still don't know it.

1:00:22I still get surprised every now and then. I think there's some teams that have figured it out, though. Yeah, no, definitely. I saw there was a whole article about it where there's teams that are, I think it's the Rams kicker maybe, who's like perfected the knuckleball. Remember the game against the Eagles, the Rams-Eagles, and it was the Eagles just got bad starting position all afternoon. That was insane. Yeah, the Rams guy has figured out how to do, who's the Rams kicker? or Meeves? Meeves, yeah. Meeves, yeah. He's figured out the knuckleball. I think the commander's figured it out, too. There's a strategy behind it, but Todd Bowles is like, you know what, the probability of them scoring a touchdown is 0 % when it goes out of the back of the end zone, so I don't care where the touchback is.

1:01:00Let's do that. In Todd Bowles' defense, he is at a point where it's like, hey, control what you can control. We can't control this. That's true. Just got to keep things simple. Also, he's not a young guy, Todd Bowles. He's been around the league for a while. If he learns something new, that pushes one thing that he's already learned out of his brain. Yeah. And we can't handle that. Yeah. Okay. Saturday night, two really good teams. Seahawks at Niners. Niners are one and a half point underdogs. Over-unders, 47 and a half. I'm very, very excited for this game. The Seattle Seahawks, by the way, have lost three games this year by a combined eight points.

1:01:35And they've won 13 games by a combined 189 points. They have been very, very dominant. I told you the stat about the fact that they can even win when Sam Darnold turns the ball over. The Niners are playing incredible offensive football. Their defense obviously has a lot of injuries and has holes. They also are going to play with their for the faithful uniforms, which I hate. Niners are in the camp of teams that have classic, beautiful uniforms. You close your eyes. You can hear Summerall Madden calling a Niners game. and said we're going to get weird black helmets and black jerseys. I don't like this.

1:02:16I don't like it in a game that means this much. Correct. You should be able to decide. You should be able to switch it up the week of if it doesn't feel right because the all-black jerseys Saturday night for the division, for the one seed, you should be able to change that. So this is such a massive game because it does feel like the winner of this game is going to have – they will be the favorite to go to the Super Bowl from the NFC. That's a fair statement, right? I think so. They only have to play two games. They get to play at home. They're going to get to play the lower seed in this divisional round.

1:02:48They don't have to play the Bears or the Eagles right away. This feels like a super big swing game in terms of how everything's going to go. I think I agree. I think if the Niners get the one seed, I don't know that they would be the odds-on favorite to host, or to, I guess, yeah, host the Super Bowl. Yeah, they don't. Because they wouldn't have to leave Santa Clara for the rest of the year. They had, going into the Sunday Night Football game against the Bears, if the Niners just won all their games, they'd have five home games in a row. Yeah, that never used to happen. We never used to even really be in the conversation of the Super Bowl host team will even get to the Super Bowl.

1:03:25And now it's happened twice. Yeah, the last five years it seemed like it's been way more likely. Was it Tampa Bay and then the Rams, right? Yeah. The Rams were in there. They were in so far, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So that is pretty crazy because it always was like something that you throw out there. Remember when the Eagles and Vikings played before the Super Bowl in Minnesota, everyone's like, whoa, this would be nuts. Yeah. This would be nuts. It would be nuts if it happened again. I need to see if Trent Williams is going to play. Yeah. Now, they did pretty good. Their offense looked good against the Bears without Trent.

1:03:55That is fool's gold because the Bears don't have a pass rush. That is, yeah. Can't really expect. And the Seahawks have a great defense. Yeah. They have one of the best defensive lines in football. So I feel like missing Trent Williams is going to be a big thing for them. And their defense is not going to be able to really do anything against Sam Darnold. In that offense. They're not going to be able to heat him up. They would have to win a game similar to the game that they played against the Bears. And I don't think that's possible to do against that Seattle defense. Although Brock Purdy, since returning from injury, is 6-0.

1:04:25He's the number one in the PFF grades, which I don't really believe in the PFF grades because we were joking about it. They have Christian McCaffrey at like 18th running back, which makes no sense. 16 touchdown passes. That's tied for first. 80.8 % adjusted completion rate. That's first. So he's been in the zone, lights out, since he returned from injury. Yeah. I've gone back and forth in this game. I think I'm going to probably bet the Seahawks. Do you think the schedule makers got it right? Do you think that putting this game on Saturday night was the right move? Because it was either going to be the Ravens-Steelers or Niners-Seahawks.

1:05:01I would have preferred it reversed. I agree. I would have rather had the Ravens-Steelers on Saturday night and the Seahawks-Niners to finish the season. I agree, because with the Ravens-Steelers, there's a very high likelihood that we're looking at like a 14-10 game. Yeah, I think the reason why, because I saw some people complaining about it and I understand it. I think the reasoning behind it is the winner of the Ravens-Steelers game is hosting a home playoff game. The loser of the Niners-Seahawks game has to go on the road, so they probably wanted to give him an extra day. Okay, yeah, that makes sense.

1:05:35I'm speaking for America, for the television viewer. I think it would have been better if this was Sunday, but that's okay. Agreed. I think that was more just Lamar. I like that Ravens-Steelers is Sunday night. But in terms of, like, that's not going to be an exciting game. But it's win or go home. Like, I think that is exciting. Like, I think that there's way more at stake to that game. And it's, like, such a historic rivalry. Ready for a hot take? I think there's more at stake for this game. For the Niners, there is. No, no. For the Seahawks, there isn't. I think there's more at stake for this game in the fact that the Ravens and Steelers are not going to win the Super Bowl.

1:06:12the winner of this game could very likely win the Super Bowl and it will increase their chances by a lot. But for the Niners, yes. For the Seahawks, if you lose, you're the 5 seed and you go to NFC South. Yeah, but then you've got just having to play three games. But the 5 seed is still a very good path to the Super Bowl. It's a good spot to be. But that's my hot take. My hot take is this is more important. To win the Super Bowl, this is more important because neither the Ravens or Steelers are going to win the Super Bowl. But think about those fan bases. If you're a fan of one of those teams, there's way more pressure on that game.

1:06:47Yeah, and the Niners, obviously, if they lose, they go down to the 6th, right? Or the Rams have to win. No. Yeah. Yes. If the Rams win, the Niners would go down to the 6th. So they would have to go to Philadelphia. Yes. The Bears can only play the Rams, Packers, or Niners. I think the Seahawks have to be a 5th. The worst they could be is 5th. Correct. Correct. So it is a swing for the Niners. I do think that the Niners uniforms, those are better for Saturday. Yeah, that's true. Those don't feel like Sunday night uniforms. That's true. So at least it is that. Okay, Sunday. We have the Saints-Falcons game, which hopefully will mean something.

1:07:25Yep. And we have Tyler Shuck, who's been incredible. Most offensive TDs in the fourth quarter of one score games this season. Tyler Shuck is fifth. He's only played six games. Rookie of the year. No big deal. Tyler Shuck has also turned around that Saints defense, too. Yep. They're averaging 4.3 yards per play against on defense since Tyler Shuck. That's the second best in the entire NFL. That's what a guy like Shuck does to an entire city. Culture guy. Culture guy. Yeah. If I told a Falcons fan in late August, the Falcons defense is going to have 50-plus sacks. B. John's going to go for 2 ,200 yards all-purpose yards Kyle Pitts is going to have a really nice season Drake London is going to be dominant and they're going to have a really impactful rookie class and the division sucks you'd be like, well yeah the Falcons are in the playoffs but then if you had said they also have to play musical chairs with their kicker then you'd be like, yep, that's the Falcons I also said they are going to lose to the New York Jets and get blown out by the Miami Dolphins yeah that's a they're they're a big time what if holy shit how this happened kind of team but also beat the bills and the rams and the rams they're a very strange team it's crazy it really does the season kind of comes down to week one yeah young way ku missed that it was a 44 yard field goal yep as time expired he missed it that was against the bucks if they win that game then we're talking the Falcons in the playoffs.

1:08:58Yeah, it's the teams that are on the top of the list of, wow, this could have, like, we were right there, and if a couple things go different, it's the Falcons, it's the Vikings, it's the Lions. Yeah. Those are the teams where I'm like, if you're a fan of one of those teams, you have to be sitting there like that. We're right there. Yeah, and we could have Kirk Cousins in the playoffs right now. Kirk Cousins. Should Kirk Cousins be the starter next year? Well, I don't think they're going to pay him next year. I think he's done after this season. Okay. At least in Atlanta. By the way, the Falcons, too.

1:09:29This is a crazy stat. So in the last decade, the Falcons are 53-78 in games when they are still playing for a playoff spot. They are 12-4 when mathematically eliminated. That's interesting. That makes me scared for Shuck. They're really good when they're eliminated. Yeah. They also, I saw a stat. I think they're like 13-3 or something in the red helmets. Why wouldn't you just do that all the time? The red helmets are great. I like those. I still like Shuck. I got to believe that Shuck has just changed everything about that locker room. Yes. Everything about the facility. Something about Shuck.

1:10:06Okay, Browns at Bengals. Bengals are minus 7.5. Overrunners 44.5. If this is it. There's two storylines in this game. It's Joe Flacco. This might be it. If it's it, we love you forever. And then Miles Garrett, can he get a half a sack? And it sounds like Joe Burrow is not designing the entire premise of him playing quarterback around preventing Myles Garrett from getting that sack. Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco's playing. Joe Flacco's playing. Yeah, I believe so. I actually don't know. Because I saw someone. Because I saw an interview with Joe Burrow where he said there's going to be some times in the game where taking a sack is the best option.

1:10:41Oh, okay. So I'm not saying that Joe's going to. Maybe it's Joe Burrow. He's not going to lay down. Actually, seven and a half means it's Joe Burrow. Yeah. He's not going to lay down for Myles Garrett, but it also sounds like there were a couple plays with the Steelers last week where Rodgers took a completed pass for a loss of three yards over getting sacked. Yeah. And it was in the back of his head. And it doesn't sound like Joe's got that same mindset. So I feel like Myles Garrett gets it this week. Put in Joe Flacco, though, for a little bit. We got to send him off. Yeah, let him throw a deep ball.

1:11:12Yeah. Just one last deep ball for the people. Packers at Vikings. Vikings minus 7.5 over under 35.5. I don't... The Packers are wrestling everyone. They should. They're getting the 7 seed, yeah. The Vikings might start J.J. McCarthy. Yeah. Okay. I think they got to see what they got. Yeah. They got to see what they got. Justin Jefferson needs 53 receiving yards to get to 1 ,000 on the season. So not a money incentive, but I think that's actually something they're going to try to do. Teammate of the year. Yeah, teammate of the year. we're getting Malik Willis. He might be a little bit banged up.

1:11:48He also might be better. So it might be the Clayton Toon situation. He might be better than... I mean again, I don't think he's a better quarterback, but he's more fun. And he might be better. And he might be better. Cowboys and Giants. Giants plus three and a half over. By the way, that would also hit the Vikings win total over for the season. As much as it seems like a disappointment because they were so good last year, it was eight and a half. Yeah, 9-8. They are definitely a what-if team. Yeah. Cowboys and Giants. Giants need to win memes. That's what you're hoping for? Yes. It feels like they're going to try to win because they tried really hard to win against the Raiders.

1:12:28Yeah. And the Cowboys, I do think the thing I would be nervous about if you are rooting for the Giants to win this game, this does feel like a Dak Prescott, George Pickens gets their numbers game. It might even feel like a Joe Milton. Joe Milton. Joe Milton's going to get in? He might. Schottenheimer says that he's mesmerized by his arm. They need to really. Week 18. Everyone complains about week 18. I understand the complaints. We just need to have. There needs to be a deadline on Saturday morning, and every coach has to be like, this is our exact plan. Yeah. Because then we could have fun with it.

1:13:03If we're like, hey, we know it's going to be Joe Milton in the second half. Great. Well, there are some guys, too, that get the start. Like, I'm sure Josh Allen will get the start. Yeah, because of his streak. Because of the streak. Right. And I don't know if that's like a point of pride for Dak Prescott being like, yeah, I started this many games. I could see them putting Bazooka Joe in in the second half. Yeah. By the way, there was a report that the Giants would be interested in Kevin Stefanski if he gets fired. Okay. There was also a report that the Browns would be interested in Mike McDaniel if he gets fired.

1:13:37I think the Giants are going to interview everybody. Yeah. I think it's just going to be like open. No bad ideas. I have a question. This is not about the game. It's about somewhat related. But do you think Eli Manning has fun when they release the Pro Football Hall of Fame nominees? I feel like that can't be fun for him. Because every time they do it, it's just a bunch of people saying Eli Manning was actually a totally average quarterback but won two Super Bowls. Yeah, but also the further he gets away from his career when he's doing all the media right now. I do think that he's going to get in.

1:14:09I do too, but it basically opens up every single time for people to bash him and be like, actually, he was never a top five quarterback. He was not that good. He just had two incredibly clutch runs. But those were great runs. I agree. I think he should be in as well. But you see what I'm saying? Yeah. That people just start picking him apart. Whereas Drew Brees, he's going to be in. Larry Fitzgerald, he's going to be in. Yeah. There's probably some of that where he's like, I wish people didn't bring up all my interceptions. Yeah, right. Now, he's a guy that he kept that streak going for a long time, but he probably shouldn't have.

1:14:39Yeah. His shoulder was just falling out of the socket. He's like, I can go, coach. Well, that was what did Ben McAdoo do in, right? Putting in Geno. Yep. Okay, Titans at Jaguars. Jaguars are minus 12.5 over under 47.5. This game does matter. The Jaguars are playing for the AFC South. They're playing for a home playoff game. They also are alive in seeding. So the Jaguars, it would be a long stretch for the Dolphins to beat the Patriots and for the Broncos to lose to the backups of the Chargers. But if that happened and the Jaguars won, the Jaguars would be the one seed. So if either one of those two teams lose, the Broncos or the Patriots, and the Jags win, they get the number two seed.

1:15:20Yep. So yeah, they've got a lot to play for. I think they're going to—the Jaguars aren't at a spot where they can be like, yeah, we like what we've got right now, let's just coast to the playoffs. I feel like it's been such a work in progress this year. They finally got to the point where they're, they're a very good football team that they're probably, they're probably afraid of taking a week off. Right. And I do like, I appreciate teams like the Titans where it doesn't matter who's playing. They're just bad. Yep. Yep. We just know. Yep. Cam Ward. So he's thrown for over 3000 yards. Now he cracked that last week.

1:15:50That's the first time that the Titans have had a quarterback throw for over 3000 yards since when? Brian Tannehill. That's special. 2021. season where they got the one seed just a great team mike variable coach leader of men uh no one saw the titans coming that year they locked up that one seed great great season uh all on the arm of ryan tanhill yeah colts the texans another one that matters because the texans if they win and the jaguars lose the texans would win the afc south texans are minus 10 and a half over under is 38 and a half we should figure out a way to do i it would be kind of impossible but actually no What if there was flex scheduling in the NFL in terms of opponents, too, where the last two weeks are two divisional games, but we don't know until week 16?

1:16:39Because it would be awesome if the Texans and the Jaguars were playing each other this week. I think that's a good idea. I don't know how it would work. I think you might get it wrong every now and again because the teams are so close to each other in the division. Right, and obviously week 17 would then impact week 18. Yeah. But it would be cool if you just like the last two games, we know we're playing two division opponents. We don't know what order it is. Yeah. And here's what it is. Now, I don't want this to come out sounding like I'm upset that Shane Steichen brought in Phillip Rivers because I'm not.

1:17:13I'm not at all. It brought a lot of joy. Please don't sound like you're upset. It brought a lot of joy to America. I loved watching him play. He's not going to be playing. He's not going to be starting this week. Yeah. Why did they do that? Why didn't they just have? they want riley leonard play they want to take a look well remember riley leonard was a little banged up when they brought in phil rivers a little bit yeah he was i think he couldn't have played that seahawks game yeah so that was why they did it and then now they just want to take a look at riley leonard okay but i feel like he probably could have played at some point over the stretch i again did he drew the hill mary reception it was a great hill mary again not upset at all yeah they brought in philip rivers but i'm thinking from like a big picture perspective on the team you'd probably want to see what your young quarterback has rather than do the Phillip Rivers carnival which was fun I love the carnival I did love Phillip Rivers saying afterwards talking about meaningless games this is just a good quote for life he said to say a game is meaningless is not in my DNA he said those games we played in the backyard and we were 10 years old they weren't meaningless right nobody gave a riff about those I like riff instead of shit but you went home crying or you went home happy you know so there's no such thing everything we do matters i would put a little asterisk next to it and just say everything we do matters except the exhibition four nations tournament that's true yeah good everything else though we do matters good point yeah sometimes you just go out there and you just kind of you just fly around don't really think about anything right i don't even remember that tournament i don't either it's a good message because there's a lot of cynicism in the world there's a lot of people who are like Like, oh, that's lame.

1:18:53No, everything we do matters. Yeah. Try your hardest at everything you do. It does mean a lot to the Texans to try to get home field advantage because they're good at home, at least in that first round. Yep. They're not very good on the road. I think they're 2-0 home playoff games. They're 0-2 on the road. Okay. That's with D 'Amico Ryans as a coach. D 'Amico Ryans, good-looking guy. Great-looking guy. Bills, Jets. This will be Mitch after Josh Allen starts. Bills minus 7 over under 38 and a half. I don't really know what to make of the Bills, by the way. I think we're going to see just how valuable Josh Allen is to that team.

1:19:29Yeah, I mean, this game, the Bills probably can win with Mitch, right? Memes, you can't win this game. Yeah, and it's the last game ever being played in that stadium. That's right. Well, yeah, that's right, because they don't have a – unless the Texans – who's going to be the seventh seed? Is it going to be the Bills? It's going to be the Chargers. Yeah. Chargers, so I guess there would be one chance if the Bills went to the AFC Championship game and hosted the Chargers, right? Yeah, 6-7 matchup. 6-7. I think there's like an outside chance that the Bills could get a home playoff game. Yeah, they would have to, yeah, if they win and the Chargers lose.

1:20:07Okay. Probably not going to happen. Memes, I think this is the week. Interception. I think the Jets are going to get an interception this week. I don't think so. Do you want to go the full season without a pick? Yeah. Why? And then you get one week one. That's new. Yeah. New beginning. Is Aaron Glenn going to still have a job? I believe so. Yes. The noise right now is crazy. I've noticed it. It's starting to ramp up. It ramped up big time, especially on like New York radio. But then there was finally an adult in the room that spoke up. Who, Brick? No. No. Oh. Baldy. Oh. Baldy. Baldy was just like, this is not an NFL roster right now.

1:20:47So that should give you the perspective that this team sucks. They showed that they were competitive with a bad roster, beating the Falcons, who just beat the Rams. Yep. You see what you have. You have some pieces in place. All the guys who have quit right now, those guys aren't going to be on the roster. It's going to be a total overhaul of the entire roster. You have 11 draft picks. You got two first-round picks. You got two second-round picks. Yep. Go build a roster. Forget about this season. Move on. Now, do you trust the guy that's going to be there to build the roster? I do like the GM they have, Daramuji.

1:21:22Okay. All right, memes. I didn't bring this up on Monday's show because I thought it was a mean insult stat, and I didn't want to twist the knife too much on the Jets. But then I told you after the show, and you said, no, you should bring this up. You should talk about it. It's a good stat. So I'm going to bring it up and talk about it. The quarterbacks that play against the Jets this season, they've quietly, as a whole, as their own separate unit put up an MVP season. They've got 32 touchdowns, zero interceptions, 7.4 yards per attempt, and they've gone 13-3. That's every quarterback in the NFL that's played against the Jets this year.

1:22:02That's pretty damn good. It's a pretty good year for those quarterbacks. That's incredible. Yeah, no, they played a lot of good quarterbacks. It was going through their schedule. like we max would make fun of you last year because jay danielson play any quarterbacks i was trying to find if the jets lost to any bad quarterbacks they didn't they played all good quarterbacks this year so going into next year they just need a defensive coordinator and a quarterback and i think i think we're fine who's the worst quarterback that you guys have lost to when you say fine what is that competitive competitive football yeah i just want to watch competitive football yep uh the worst quarterback we lost to hmm did you lose bryce young maybe you lose to spencer rattler no we lost tyler shuck oh great i mean that's that's probably the best quarterback you lost to right pull up jet schedule the jets they played tua Tua?

1:23:01Maybe Tua? Tua's undefeated against Jets. Tua might be the answer, though, to that. You beat Joe Flacco. You beat the Browns. Yeah, I think it's probably Tua. I think people need to start talking about how unfair the schedule was to the Jets. You guys played an MVP quarterback every single week. Yeah, no, you're right. Facts. By the way, something to look out for in this game when we're talking about incentives and everything that's going on. Sean McDermott did say when asked about James Cook in position to win the rushing title, that's definitely on my mind. Hmm. Hmm. So right now, James Cook is 50-ish yards, 40 yards, 47 yards to be exact, ahead of Jonathan Taylor.

1:23:55and he is 200 yards ahead of Derrick Henry's in third. So it's essentially a two-man race, James Cook versus Jonathan Taylor. And it's on Sean McDermott's mind. I like that. And they're also wearing the sick red helmets too. Yeah. Okay. Afternoon. Lions at Bears. Bears minus two and a half, over under 50 and a half. I believe the Bears are going to be playing everyone who's healthy. this is a a double revenge game so it's revenge for ben johnson after the loss to the lions in week two when the lions kind of ran it up and then it feels like a revenge for dan campbell because the story all year has been dan campbell's ben johnson merchant and he is potentially going to raid the entire bears coaching staff in the off season yeah is he allowed to do that i well Well, I think it's the old, like, you can give guys, like, Al Harris is probably going to get a defensive coordinator job somewhere.

1:24:55Yeah. So he might do that. Some guys are going to get, like, associate head coach titles. Yeah, Jacqueline Doyle could become the offensive coordinator for the line. Like, I don't know what exactly that entails. Al Harris is the name that a lot of people are talking about. I always love it when coaches get, like, a quarterback coach, but they also make him associate head coach. Yes. Even though he's not a coordinator yet. I think that Dan Campbell's going to be playing everybody. Yeah. I don't think he's taking his foot off the gas. He said, I think if guys can't go because of injury, next guy up will go.

1:25:22Younger old, younger veteran, next best guy available. So it sounds like they're going to be treating this like it's a real game. Now, so the Bears should treat it like a real game because getting the two seed is important, I believe. Having the chance for an extra home game, having a chance to play the seven seed, these are important things. the i do think ben johnson gonna try to get caleb williams to 4 000 yards i i just think that's something that's important that's it's like a fuck you to everyone i did it in my first year we did it uh and i do think i'm a little nervous for this game because the lions big issue has been blocking for jared goff and the bears cannot get a pass rush yeah whatsoever so that makes me nervous now also if the lines lose this game they could get fourth place which is not yeah which is three games different which is three games different but it's still i mean if you look at the the stats the teams that play the fourth place schedule they they tend to do better actually i think if they win this game they can also get fourth place if the vikings win so if it's double win because they lost the vikings twice so the vikings would definitely have the tiebreaker over okay both eight and eight right now so the lions are gonna try they're gonna try really hard i i i don't i don't think dan campbell has it in his dna to do anything different i don't think so either i think that this is he's not a guy that's going to arrest anybody you're going to get the full lines experience yeah okay so uh but i do think i if you if you're looking to bet something i do i do think that they're going to make it an effort to try to get to the 4 000 yard mark he said uh ben johnson on getting to 4 000 yards if it were to happen that'd be great but you'd agree with me our number one objective is to win this ball game i think he then winked after He didn't actually win.

1:27:09And you're okay. You're not a little bit scared of having Green Bay come to Chicago. Oh, I'm definitely scared in the fact – I think the Bears are better than the Packers. I'm scared in the fact that if the Bears lose to the Packers this entire season, you look back and you're like, that wasn't fun. That loss would hurt. It wipes out fun. That loss would hurt a lot more. Big picture means absolutely nothing because it's like big picture. Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams, I think are going to be incredible going forward. but in terms of the 2025 Chicago Bears that has been such a fun ride, that would no longer be the case.

1:27:44It would kind of make the offseason painful instead of happy. Oh, yeah. And it would just be like, yeah, that was awesome until the Packers and the Packers fans would get to say same old Bears, Bears suck and all that stuff. Yeah, so it would be the Rams, right? You could end up playing the Rams. We could play the Rams or the 49ers. Or the 49ers. And if either one of those two teams beat you in Chicago, it'd be like great season. We're a year away. Bad outcome. Right. We made the playoffs. It feels like we're even like a year ahead of schedule from where we thought we'd be. But if the Packers do it, then it's like this fucking sucks again.

1:28:15Yeah. Yeah. And the Bears have not had a lead on the Packers this year. That's interesting. So. I mean, it's scary proposition. And the Packers are arresting everyone. Who would you rather play? Malik Willis or Love? Probably Jordan Love. Yeah. Malik Willis is so good. He's really good. He's so good. He's so good. I would tell. Something about Malik Willis. I do think that yeah I mean Caleb's been lights out he's been everything has gotten better throughout the course of the year if you look at all the advanced numbers and you know his arm that throw I think I've watched that throw to Colson Loveland a million times where it's just an absolute 50 yard frozen rope that just got there in two seconds there have been a couple of those throws yeah the Luther Burden one as well okay and one last thing about the Bears I love Ben Johnson so much.

1:29:08His accountability is so refreshing where, you know, like a guy like Eberflus would always just fumble his way through a press conference, blame the players, blame execution. Ben Johnson essentially said the last play of the game against the 49ers, he screwed up not getting it in fast enough. And he said that the field goal drive when they had first and 10, first and goal on the 10, he was asked directly, like, do you think you should have run the ball more? He's like, yeah, I hated what I did there. I got to look at what I did, and I have to do better. I have to call a better game in those spots.

1:29:40Yeah, again, I think with Ben Johnson, at least you have a coach that thinks everything through. And he's accountable. He's saying, like, yeah, I didn't do a good – like, I got to put our team – not, oh, our team, you know, execution was bad or this or that. He's like, no, I have to do a better job. Yeah. And I love that. Yep. Okay, Chargers at Broncos. Broncos minus 12.5, over-unders 37.5. Chargers are not playing anyone, which is the smart move. Broncos obviously need to win to get the one seed Is there a chance Trey Lance is going to start Yeah We might see DJ We might see DJ We might see DJ Do you know the last time Trey Lance threw a touchdown pass?

1:30:19North Dakota State No, no, it's his rookie year Oh, okay His rookie year, 2021 And he's started a couple times He's attempted 85 passes since then but he could be benched for DJ Uangalele. Yep. I need Jake to remind me how to pronounce that. Who was my 1-1 pick after that Notre Dame-Clemson game in COVID. Yeah, he was so good. He just looked like a bulldozer. I was like, that guy. It is pretty crazy to think about the 49ers and how good they are. Obviously, last year they had a bad year, but how good they are year in and year out, and they burned. Was it the third overall pick on Trey Lance? They traded up for him.

1:30:58Yeah. Right? Like, think about that. They basically made it as hard as possible. Like, hey, we have the top three pick, and we're going to draft a guy who never was good. If any of the other 31 teams besides the Niners had taken Brock Purdy in that draft, I don't know that John Lynch still has a job. Yeah, and I don't know. I mean, let's see. I believe he was the third overall pick. Yeah, I mean, Brock Purdy, I guess, makes up for that. but it's nuts to like taking a third overall pick that is a that is not good that quickly is a like ruins a franchise and and we don't really talk about trey lance being a bust because of that because they've been the niners were fine yeah i think it's because we just didn't see enough of him in college like if he had been in a power four school and won a big bowl game well he did beat jmu in the national championship ah yeah that is a big that's big what did you guys think about the chargers posting a picture of drew breeze saying close to canton uh in a in a chargers uniform i guess you got to get those clicks in little stolen valor i i think they might have known what they were doing trying to get the engagement they're like people are people are gonna be so pissed about this yeah the the the last thing i had on this game if you are someone who still thinks justin herbert is bad i saw this stat um the final chargers offensive line rankings ahead of week 18 where they're going to probably rest some guys espn pass block win rate 32nd espn run block win rate 31st pff pass blocking efficiency 30th pff run blocking grade 32nd pff pass blocking grade 31st he is playing behind the worst offensive line possible and he's still the man i just think he's the best that ever was he he is the best god bless you justin Yeah.

1:32:42Wherever you are. Do you want to retract stupid pick guy? I never said he was a bad quarterback. No. I just said he was a stupid pick guy. That reinforces it. If you're a good quarterback and you're liable to throw a stupid pick, then you're a big stupid pick guy. Correct. There's a lot of guys that throw stupid picks that aren't big stupid picks guys because they're just bad quarterbacks. Exactly. Right? Yeah. Okay, Chiefs at Raiders. Raiders are plus 5.5 over under 36.5. Looks like Pete Carroll's going to be done. he doesn't know that's all the reports he's had positive conversations big cat he's had a lot of positive conversations with guys in that building and how'd they go they went positively he said anything that can happen i feel like i've got their support what does that mean i don't know but our conversation has been really good there were some conversations he's been having good conversations with people around the office so it would be it'd be shocking to him if he was fired i i would not be shocked i would not be shocked either i think it's probably i think it's going to be tom brady like learning how to be an owner in real time yeah like any any guy that comes from a successful background doesn't matter if that background is in software sales doesn't matter if it's in private equity or just being a good quarterback they all go through the same process just like we would go through if we owned a team which is we try to get a bunch of players that used to be good and coaches that used to be good build a fantasy team and then we think it's going to work out and it doesn't and then you realize the mistakes and then you say you're going to take you're uh you're gonna be more of like a holistic hands-off type owner let the football guys make the football choices yep and then they do that and then you start to meddle again and then you realize okay now i've really learned my lesson now i'm just gonna go play golf and let everybody else do their job and that's when you get good at football that's when that's when it's david temper yeah so right now he is in uh he's tom brady's starting phase two of that he's he's about to enter phase about to enter phase two so i i give the the raiders like three more seasons the raiders have to lose to keep the one pick yeah i'm gonna try to not watch a second of this game i think we can make that happen although i might close my eyes anytime my head goes towards that tv there is a milestone oh travis kelsey 57 yards away from jason whitten to move into second place all time okay he also is two receptions away from passing to for eighth all time in terms of balls caught which is pretty incredible for a tight end i feel like getting to second place if your retirement is is up in the air like his is i think the chiefs will try to make that happen yeah definitely definitely both things to be like hey top 10 receptions second place receiving yards yep yeah i i don't care about this game you think max crosby's going to watch this game while he's at CrossFit?

1:35:28Yeah, dude. Max Crosby. We could talk about it now. Good basketball player. Yeah, very good. Yeah. Max Crosby is the number one every single team. Every single decent team is going to want in the offseason. I know I want him. I don't know if this entered Max's calculations, but you've been a great teammate. Nobody would hold it against you if you were like, I'd like to be traded now. Yeah. You've said all the right things. we've checked that box you're not a diva max no you wanted to stick around all he does is play you wanted to be there i think at this point you're well within your rights to be like fuck you guys trade me yes and do it please yeah please do it please please do it the i i think we should maybe do maybe we should do a round robin where we have to bet every single game just for fun okay like you should no one should bet the raiders chief skin but we we got it yeah i'm i mean i'm i'm definitely going but no one should do it no one should do it rams cardinals rams are seven point favorites over under is 46 and a half this one is kind of an up in air up in the air game because if the seahawks win no sorry if the niners win the rams have a complete lock on six right yes i believe that's true if the niners win this rams cannot go anywhere but the six seat so if the niners win on saturday night i would expect the rams to not play anyone see niners win on saturday night rams i believe that's true because we said that earlier seahawks can't move off the fifth spot yeah so that will be the that that will be and then if if the alternative happens if the Seahawks win I would assume the Rams are going to try to win this game because then they would be the fifth seed and get to go to the NFC South yes which is a big difference in going to Philadelphia it's a you're going to try very much has got yep got it got it got it got it got it I wish we had the camera on Max's face yeah you're gonna you're gonna try very hard to win this game yeah if you're able to move up that's a big difference I also will throw this out there there's another one coming up there's actually a couple coming up I think the Rams probably could win this game with Jimmy G I think that what the Rams are doing right now is actually right along those lines it's it's smart what mcveigh is saying he's saying that he's going to play all the starters says we need to play better and they asked him about it they said are you doing that because you've lost two in a row his answer was no they were going to play anyways we need to play we need to play better football so i don't know what the consequences are on those different types of things but we have to play better so he essentially said no but also yes you're 100 percent correct that i'm playing my starters because we have to play better i think that if there's a chance that uh if the saturday night game does not go the rams way they might just not play their starters yeah they might just but he's keeping that door open for it yeah so we'll see if this game is good or not the the dolphins at patriots patriots minus 10 and a half drake may is gonna win the mvp it looks that way i mean i say it all the time it's it's I think both are good choices if Drake May wins the MVP that's a good choice if Matthew Stafford wins the MVP good choice I don't really have a strong take or a bet on it the thing with the MVP and I've said every single year if Matthew Stafford had played the Falcons at noon on Sunday would he still win the MVP probably he played him on Monday Night Football and he had pick sixes and the Rams lost that's what people go for what if the Dolphins beat the Patriots because Because Miami, I think they've won two in a row in Foxborough.

1:39:09Okay. But it's a cold weather game. It is a cold weather game. But it's not Tua. It's Quinn Ewers. Wow. Wow. Can Quinn play in the cold? I don't know. Yeah. I mean, he went to Ohio State for a year. Yeah. Right? Yeah. So, yeah, Quinn can maybe. I mean, he's from Texas, but he did go to Ohio State for a year, so he's at least aware of cold weather. I don't think that the cold affects him as much as it does Tua. I think that's a safe bet. Yeah, I'd agree with that. And I still think that the Patriots are going to win. Yeah, they are. And I think that even if they lose, I think Drake May should probably be the MVP.

1:39:45The bigger question with the Patriots this week is, is everything okay? Because Stefan Diggs and Christian Barmore? Well, yeah. I mean, you're talking about Stefan Diggs incentives, right? Yeah, Stefan Diggs incentives. He's got 30 yards on Sunday to get$1 ,000 for the season, and that would give him$500 ,000, enough to pay 10 chefs. Wow. Yeah. Think about all the meals. It'd be a lot of meals. He could even have two chefs. I wish Hank was here. We'll ask him about it. But yeah, the Patriots are primed to, I mean, they're going to win this game. I think so. I think they're going to win this game and Drake May is going to win the MVP.

1:40:21And the Dolphins are going to possibly keep Mike McDaniel. I don't know. I don't know what the Dolphins are going to do. I think he might have done enough. He might have done enough. He might have done enough. commanders and eagles eagles are minus three and a half now over under 38 and a half the big question is can the eagles beat the commanders with their backups because nick sirianni is going to play the backups max how do you feel about that love it any place anywhere anytime shows confidence in your team get the boys healthy for the playoffs will you be upset slightly upset if the bears lose and the eagles like barely lose the commanders any place anywhere anytime but you'll be slightly upset sure yeah yeah because i do think that we were talking about it before i think the eagles are in a different spot than the bears where if the roles were reversed and it's if you win this game you get the two seed you have to you have to play everyone they're in a spot where they could win the game and still not get the two seeds so why risk injury yeah which makes sense also that the five number three seeds in 50 years have reached the super bowl and only three have won the Super Bowl.

1:41:31So it's actually better to be the four seed than it is to be the three seed historically. But they can't be the four seed. But they can't be. But they could be the three seed. They could be the three seed. Now, Max, I think that... I actually like the commanders in this game.

1:41:46Okay. I do. I'm happy for you. Okay. It doesn't mean anything to you? You said that you're going to be slightly upset. I mean, we're playing our backups. Yeah. Is it Tanner McKee? Tanner McKee? I like Tanner McKee. I mean, I think they're four-and-a-half-point favorites. Yeah. Which is disrespectful. That's big-time disrespect. Disrespect. It is. Yeah. Disrespect. No, it's disrespectful. It's definitely disrespectful. It is. I do like Debo Samuel to get maybe another touchdown. If he gets one more, he gets$250 ,000. And if he gets 97 receiving yards, he gets$200 ,000. Okay. So I like a big game out of Debo.

1:42:28and i josh johnson sure let's yeah let's try josh johnson out there this is that's a good point it's not like you guys have your first team your first team either it's it's a great game for me if we lose awesome maybe better draft pick if we win i get to beat max and i get it doesn't feel it doesn't feel as good beating the backups yeah well it would it would ensure nfc east divisional tournament championship in season we'd have yeah we'd have no no no outright it doesn't it doesn't matter that's right no prior results matter no this game no we'd have two wins in the tournament right right and i think you'd have one win you would have one win right yeah right so yeah it's cumulative wins we'd have two the cowboys i think would have one if the cowboys beat the giants they have two is that true well they beat the commanders last week so we could talk yeah oh shit Oh, shit.

1:43:23Oh, no. Who's a bigger Giants fan? No, man. You got to remember the Giants. You don't know. The tiebreaker, I think, is strength of victory. Okay. And the Cowboys would have beaten the commanders. The Eagles definitely would have been the strength of victory. Yeah. Yeah. And they would have beaten the Giants, who stink. Yep. We would have a win against the Eagles, who are good. All right. So it doesn't matter. Strength of victory. Yeah. Actually, it doesn't matter. We're back. I think it's margin of victory. So you got to root for a specific. You lost by seven to the Cowboys. you gotta hope that the Cowboys don't beat the Giants by more yeah head to head is not so head to head is not it's a hat and t-shirt game for us this has been a sad season I'm glad to see that it's over if we're getting to week 18 and I'm talking about a made up tournament that Dan Quinn invented to try to get his team to show more than 5 % effort and I'm putting all my weight behind that that's a sure fire sign that I need this regular season to be over Shit's gotten sad.

1:44:19You can't. The good news is the commanders cannot fall past the seventh spot. We locked that in with the same lottery. Yeah. So you can, if teams ahead of you win on Sunday, you could potentially get a better pick. You'd go all the way up. I mean, the chances of the Giants, Jets, Titans, and Cardinals all winning is very small. Yeah. But if that did happen and you lost, you could potentially have the two pick. Yeah. I think we're going to find ourselves right around somewhere between 5 and 7. Yeah, that seems right. Okay, last game. This one means something. Ravens and Steelers to end the 2025 regular season in the NFL.

1:45:02The Steelers are 3.5 point underdogs. The over-under is 40.5. I think the Ravens are going to win. I think so, too. Lamar is going to play. Yep, and I think they're going to run Derrick Henry. Yeah. And if you close your eyes, I can just see a sad Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin walking off the field. Yeah, unfortunately, I did want the Steelers to make the playoffs. But no, but now you can say, I guess we'll never know. We'll never know. If they do make the playoffs, I think they'll win a game. But I don't think they're going to make the playoffs now. Do you still think they're going to win a game?

1:45:38They'd have to play. Who'd they play? I think they, I mean, it's all up in the air. It is all up in the air. So we don't know. It would maybe be the Texans. It could be the Texans. That doesn't seem like a game they would win. Texans are 0-2 on the road in the playoffs under D 'Amico Ryans. Yeah, but think about Aaron Rodgers in that pass going up against that pass rush. I do think about that. And Rodgers is already looking forward to next year. It sounds like he's coming back. Yeah, I'm actually – I got to root for the Ravens here because I think the Ravens could beat the Texans. They could. The Steelers, I don't think, can, but I think the Ravens could.

1:46:14Yeah, the Ravens are going to give a healthy dose of Derrick Henry for sure. Last week, they did something that hadn't been done in a long time with Derrick Henry. They ran the ball out of eye form, which is awesome. Yes. It's old school football. He had 18 runs from eye formation. That's the most by any ball carrier since 2015. It does feel like maybe an end of an era for the losing team in this game. It does. And we said it should be a loser leaves town for the coaches. Yeah. Like, whichever coach loses this game. And then Adam Schefter kind of alluded to that. He said, like, it might be. Yeah.

1:46:50The Steelers, by the way, at home against the Ravens have been good. They're 4-1 at home against the Ravens in their last five years. They also are 20-5 in their regular season finale since 2000, 11-1 at home. Those stats really probably don't mean anything, but it's cool to look at. Just say they always win their last game. I would like to see DK just come back Yeah just show up Just do a Jameis Just show up What are they going to do if you play? It is bullshit Is the ref Does the ref have the physical ability to keep DK Metcalf off the field? We should do a reappeal on this Because for the viewer and the people at home DK Metcalf playing in this game makes it so much better Yeah but what would happen if he went out there on the field for the first possession?

1:47:34What if he brought the guy, the Lions fan came out let the lions fans slap him in the face he's like we're good or dk kidnaps the lions fan and then forces him to do a video being like i'd like for you to reinstate dk metcalf for this game i'm sorry i was in the wrong what if the lions we we say dk metcalf can play but the steelers have to play their entire first offensive series series with the lions fan at wide receiver yeah that would be awesome i'd agree to that yeah i'd agree to that i would definitely punishment I think it should fit the crime. Okay, that is – yeah, I'm excited for that game.

1:48:10I just think the Ravens, I don't know. Lamar – the whole Lamar thing is weird, but the fact that he's going to be playing, because I had to take earlier this week that if he doesn't play, could this have been the last time we see him in a Ravens uniform? It seems like he's going to play, so I don't know what's going to end up happening. If they win a couple games, will they just keep going with the Harbaugh-Lamar thing? There's a lot of smoke, but they have one game to get in, and who knows? The Ravens would officially, if the Ravens win this game convincingly, there will be a lot of the Ravens or the team to watch out for.

1:48:41I think that if the Ravens get in, there's definitely a possibility that they could win at least one game. And then I don't think that you do anything about Lamar and Harbaugh. I think you just run it back. You just try not to get injured. And it does feel like he's going to play because this is what the Ravens do every single time they play the Steelers with Lamar. At the start of the week, it's like, oh, we don't know if Lamar is going to play. And then guess what? Lamar plays. Jerry wants to play Lamar. Yes. He said that he would rather have the Ravens play Lamar than Stu Puntley. Yep. Which is, I mean, the Steelers have.

1:49:11I just said the stat at home. Steelers have kind of owned the Ravens recently. Yep. So, okay. Let's do our picks. And then we have Jerry O 'Connell exit interview for the 2025 fantasy football season. So, who's got the first picks? I have Zach and Hank's picks. They sent me three options for each. So, we'll get one of their options. I'm up first? Yes, sir. Fuck. Okay. Actually, I have an easy pick that I love. Before we do that, let me just say DraftKings. DraftKings, the game of the week. Football season just got even better. Barstool is bringing you the game of the week. Every single week through the end of the regular season, here's the deal.

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1:51:00Bonus bets are non-withdrawable and expire in seven days. See official rules and free method of entry at DraftKings.com slash promos. Sponsored by Crown Gaming, Inc. Okay, I am going to go with my first selection. I'm going to take the Bears-Lions over 50 and a half. Who is up next? Is that Hank? That'd be Hank. All right, so Hank's selections I'm going to pick off of his order.

1:51:28his first selection is going to be the Steelers plus three and a half

1:51:37memes I'm gonna go with the Jaguars minus 12 and a half okay I'm riding the hot hand give me the shuckster plus three I love that good pick I love that Zach his first selection is going to be the Buccaneers minus two and a half. Okay. PFT. I am going to go with the under and Raven Steelers. Oh, 40 and a half. Zach's number one pick that he, cause I had him send me his top four is the over. Okay. So he's going to take over 40 and a half. Okay. Do I get two now? Oh, sorry. Yeah. I could take the over and the under. Yeah. I am going to take down to two.

1:52:29I'm going to take the 49ers. Okay. Plus one and a half. Okay. I think Trent Williams might play. Okay. So Zach has the over in the Ravens-Steelers game. What is your pick? I'm going to take the over in Titans-Jags, over 47.5. Okay. I'm going to go over in Seahawks-49ers, over 47.5. Hank is going to take under. Should I give him? So he sent me Commander's Eagles under 41.5. It's now 38.5. Or should I give him his other option was Bears-Lions under 50.5, which is stage true? Do that. Okay. That's too confusing. Okay. All right. Bears, Lions. And then I have the last pick. I am going to take – did anyone take the Seahawks?

1:53:27Nope. Nope. I'm going to take the Seahawks, minus one and a half. All right. Okay. Do we have – do we do a touchdown parlay or should we just – there might not be enough things out there. We'll have one. We'll have one. It'll be at the beginning of the show. We'll put one together at the beginning of the show because it'll be closer. Okay. I think Shuck runs one in. Oh. Oh. I think he uses the legs. Oh. I think that's an early game, but we'll still bet it. We'll still bet it. I like that too, though. Yeah. He's done it all. Yeah. All right, let's get to Jerry O 'Connell. Before we do that, PFT, you got a quick word from one of our sponsors.

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1:54:35What else are you guys craving this NFL season? I'm sure there's a lot of cravings out there. Everybody wants something. I personally would like this season to end. I want to get to wildcard playoffs. I'm sick of watching my team play every week. Chunky is everything else that you crave No matter what you crave or when you crave it Chunky delivers 110 % And now here's Jerry O 'Connell Okay we now welcome on a guest It is our fantasy football manager Jerry O 'Connell This is our exit interview We thought the AWLs deserved to have the exit interview be public So we made it to the championship this year We lost in the championship we were starting Jacoby Brissett and we just want to have a recap see where we're at as a team I think most teams you know this we're getting close to Black Monday a lot of owners sit with their coaches be like hey where did things go wrong how do you think you did assess the season and you know what's going to happen going forward you asking me to speak now yeah yeah go ahead I mean if the floor is yours I mean how do you think the season went first of all just want to say what's up to the AWL Thank you for all your support this season in helping me manage this team.

1:55:49They were very helpful, except for the one guy during the draft who kept screaming, Ollie Gordon, Ollie Gordon, Ollie Gordon, over and over again. That was annoying. That said, when you texted me about this exit interview, I was a little nervous. I texted you, Big Cat, what's this about? What's going on? I mean, runner-up, how much better can we do? We did not have to pay that substantial entry fee. Substantial. I actually broke it down. You know, last time I told you it was one-tenth of my driveway. I actually broke it down here. I put in a new heating system in my home. It is one-third of a new heating system.

1:56:32One-third of a new heating system in a, I don't want to show off, but a three-bedroom home. Okay. it is a substantial amount of money. This exit interview should be nothing but grateful coming from both of you. Big Cat, I've read some things online that you've said, and I appreciate it. PFT, you've been a little rude and not very appreciative. I gave Jerry a vote of confidence after Sunday. Listen, you don't want the vote of confidence, Jerry. The vote of confidence is a kiss of death in the NFL. You know that. New York Giants head coaches have gotten like seven consecutive votes of confidence before they've been fired.

1:57:09What Big Cat's doing is, I mean, I think he's actually a little bit more appreciative than I am. That's true. I am giving you a real vote of confidence. I have no intention of firing you from this job unless this exit interview goes poorly. So it is true that Big Cat's a little more appreciative than I am. I think my pain comes from a place of expectations being set by you before the season. You're wearing the jersey right now, the Jaden Daniels jersey. I believe you said he was going to break every NFL quarterback record this year. I put – he did not, by the way. He did not do any of those things.

1:57:46If there's a blame pie that we're cutting up, I probably give you 33 % of the blame for Jaden Daniel's season going poorly because of the expectations that you put on him in the preseason. Oh, 33%. That's funny. That's the exact amount that it took to get his new water heater that he stole from us from the money that he got back. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It wasn't a water heater, dude. It was a heating system. If you want heat in your house, it was like 60 degrees the other night here in L.A. You need a heater. You know, let me ask you. I mean, hopefully I'm still your manager next season. I mean, I'd like to see Shefty get you this much content or whatever.

1:58:31shout out game time what are let's just say we were going to draft some commanders next season what assurances can you give us what are maybe some commanders going to do to work on like tendon strength, bone density what are they going to do in the off season I think for the commanders I think for the commanders you're banned from drafting any commanders next year I would like to see that. I would like to see that put in place. I don't want you to touch anybody on my team ever. Yep. Okay. All right. That's good. We can work with that. Yep. We were going to do that anyway, unless you can assure me someone was going to, I don't know, work, work on legs, do some squats.

1:59:13Some of those videos we see from, from, from some of the Eagles facility, team members clapping and backup, like team members doing like putting on like six or seven plates on each side. Are we going to see any of that? See, are people going to drink milk? Here's, here's where we did for Jerry. I think that you are the reason for it. I don't think that our strength and conditioning is making them bad, meaning you don't want to draft them next year. I think it's a chicken or the egg situation. I would like to move forward removing all commanders from the draft pool for you next year. I know that in the past you've taken entire teams off your draft list.

1:59:47So let's just add one more. I mean, newsflash, if I am your manager next season also, we're never drafting. Is Max here? Yeah. Or is he still on vacation? here i'm here no he's here we're never drafting an eagle ever again max it's over saquon hey max we're talking about the commanders hey max saquon fucked us hard this season he fucked us real hard he was our first pick yeah he has 1100 yards and eight touchdowns it's a good year dude not okay not okay not with the first pick a first pick has got to be lights out we're talking jsn We're talking Ashton Gentry. We're talking Bijan. Ashton Gentry?

2:00:32Dude. Ashton Gentry does not have better numbers than Saquon Barkley this year. Championship game. We're going off of one single game? No, dude. No. I was at that Chargers game when I was begging for Saquon at the end of the game. I was live texting with you. He had a 50-yard touchdown that game. he did have a 50-yard touchdown toward the end of the game. It was a fluke. Thank God it happened. He had about five points going into there. He fucked us so hard, Max, so hard. The two examples you gave were Ashton Gentry over Saquon Barkley. I was just trying to come up with – And the Chargers game.

2:01:14Okay, Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor. He kind of fell off at the end of the season in terms of numbers. I think, Jerry, what we're looking at is you need to do a better job of drafting clutch players. Saquon Barkley, not clutch in the fantasy championship. Yeah. You know, I was trying to keep it sort of friendly with the podcast and stuff, but you know what? You guys win. We're just going to draft all Patriots next year, and let's see how morale is in that room. Hank's on vacation right now. Of course he is. I got a question for you, Jerry. I got a question. And this is, again, this is an exit interview that I'm going into.

2:01:50We were texting last night. I'm going into this exit interview being like, Jerry's my fantasy manager. Nothing's going to change, but I do have some questions that I'd just like some answers to. Jaden Daniels obviously got hurt this year. The backup plan for Jacoby Brissett, did we ever have an option to maybe upgrade the backup plan? Did we ever have a different waiver wire? Did we have a guy we could trade for? Because it felt like going into the championship with Jacoby Brissett was not the best. We did. first of all that that league that you put me in i felt bad when i was shit talking those guys who were in the championship with that was a little i don't know if you read those texts that was a little rough yeah you went atomic on you also added me and pft to a text thread with just two random guys and then left it uh they actually um yeah i'm i'm i'm so sorry full story to the awl is why i gave your uh phone numbers out sorry about that i i shouldn't have done that um they wanted to double the money in the championship and also second place gets no money and i didn't feel comfortable um authorizing that to be honest the the amount of money that's being thrown around it really it it's um what else did i do you know i had some tree trimming done in my backyard it was it was literally like how much it costs to trim all the trees like in in my backyard i just don't have that kind of i don't have that money to throw around and of course big cat said let's go winner takes all thank god i talked you off that ledge because i saved us a substantial amount of money you have to call 1-800-GAMBLER big cat this isn't even a bit on the double it i wanted to double it do you think that maybe having the safety net there for second place that that made you more comfortable going into the finals.

2:03:41It made you less likely to go out and get a replacement for Jacoby Brissett. Pressure makes diamonds. No one in that league would trade with me. You saw the texts, PFT. You read them on the show. I did, yeah. I was begging anyone to make a trade with me. I was offering Max's beloved Saquon, who had such a sick season. A sick season. I was begging anyone to take him off our hands for anyone. We did have Jackson Dart. After week 16 and that one point game, I couldn't start him. He did perform better than Jacoby Percept in week 17, but I could not start him after that week 16 game. I couldn't do it.

2:04:24So Max has a question because I would like to hear Max's question. Max? Did we ever think about picking up Tyler Shuck for this team? Good question. Because I know there was a time where he was available, and we've been in on him early. Jackson Dart, by the way, had two touchdowns in the fantasy championship. I think Tyler Shuck could have helped us this week. Yeah, I didn't because PFT wanted to keep Jaden on our team. if we had the championship and stuff. So we had, I mean, he's on our roster right now. You can go and look. He wanted him to get a ring? I did want it. Yeah, I did request that Jerry not cut Jaden Daniels so that he could get a championship.

2:05:02Okay, so that is true. That is true. That is true. But, I mean, there's other guys that you could have cut.

2:05:11Yeah, guys, it was a tough season. I mean, we also had Cam Scadaboo. We just had, you know, TMAC. That's how we're supposed to say it, everyone. That one guy can stop texting me that we're saying his name wrong. If you say he wants to be called T-Mac, his mom wants us to call him T-Mac, not Tet. Max called him Tet the other day. There's just some guy who keeps texting me. You can stop texting me. I said it, dude. How do all these people get your phone numbers? No, he wasn't texting. He was DMing. Okay. Jerry, speaking of texting, I have a question because you talked about the trades. Do you think maybe next year we should maybe not be as aggressive texting the whole entire group chat of the league?

2:05:56Because that might negatively impact what people are thinking about you and not want to do a trade with you. Well, you can beat this out if you want. I didn't realize CJ McCollum, who was playing through some pretty big games this season, when I was texting him directly and saying, dude, got to give us a trade, got to give us a trade. I didn't realize he was right in the middle of his season. He was very polite, by the way. Very nice. Great guy. Oh, dude, how about when I fucking win Atomic on those guys? You did get Atomic. He told them maybe you should get some improv classes. What? He told them to get some improv classes.

2:06:32Do you have a funny friend that you can bounce ideas off? This isn't going to cut it. He said they don't play sports because they clearly didn't play sports because that's not how guys talk.

2:06:43It's just they sent that one like bing bong, you blew it meme, and it just set me off. I got to say the worst thing about coming in second place is knowing I'm going to be in a Chili's with my family or an Applebee's or a Hillstone. And like four, like young men are going to come up to me and the table and lean down. And my whole family is going to look up and they're going to look me right in the eye and go, Bing, Bong, you blew it. You blew it. Show us your tootsies, Jerry. And then they're going to walk off. And then my frightened children and wife are going to go, what the fuck was that? What the fuck was that?

2:07:22Now, Jerry, we don't care about Hank here and you don't either. But do you think maybe that's a little ironic because that is just Hank's life now? It's what he gets. Yeah. Fair point. Hey, guys, I realize this is an exit interview. I'm going to very quickly. I know it's the holidays and you guys have to go to all these parties and everything. I'm going to go through some stuff that I'm going to do next season if I am your manager I have one last question we have no parties by the way I got one question about your performance this year as it pertains to the championship then I want to hear all about next year what your plans are that's a big part of the evaluation process that we have for you in the championship game you made one really good call I want to give you a pat on the back it came down to Taysom Hill or Colston Loveland to start a tight end, and you selected Colston Loveland.

2:08:20Taysen Hill had zero points. Loveland, I believe he had something like 18 fancy points. No, it was an incredible game. Best game of the year. A great call on your part, clutch call. Can you walk us through the process that you used to decide, okay, are we going to go with the Bears or the Saints? You're being such a little bitch right now, PFT. You're being so – what you're doing. It was a great call. honestly i was gonna be nice here and say like congrats on netflix and not call you guys sell outs or anything but you're being such a fucking what you're saying right now is just touching you're like an acupuncturist you're like going and you're touching the nerve with like a little needle what nerve are we talking about we're driving right now follow us for those who don't follow us on the everything app i said hey guys we're down 20 i'm thinking about getting bold and starting Taysom Hill.

2:09:14A lot of our AWLs said, don't do that, don't do that. So I took it to a vote. I've never done one of those votes on X. It truly is the everything app. It was fun to do a poll. Did any experts help you out?

2:09:30Adam Schefter jumped in and said, absolutely, I would go Loveland over Hill. Oh, okay. You know, I don't want to get him in trouble with, you know, because obviously there was money at stake and everything. But Schefter was absolutely correct. He was absolutely correct. He actually, I reached out to Schefter. He's got a message for you. Do you want me to play it? Yeah, sure. Let's go. Okay. All right. So he sent me this because he was busy today. Otherwise, he would have joined the sex interview. Oh, it's a voice message. Yeah, yeah. No, it's a video. It's a video. You ready? Oh, it's a video.

2:10:10You ready? Yeah. Yeah. Jerry, I just want to congratulate you on a very strong season. Not strong enough, but very strong. Impressive all the way around. Know you were juggling a lot. And I also want you to know, if the guys want to get me involved in managing this team after their review of your performance, I'd be honored. And I'd most likely say yes. But I do want you to know that I still have full confidence in you getting it done and bringing home the championship that was so elusive this year. Congratulations on a job well done, just not really well done. That was nice, right? Very nice, yeah.

2:10:48Yeah, super good. Another vote of confidence. Somebody just record this. Memes, just record this and you can send a message back to Shefty for me, okay? Okay. Are you ready, Memes? Make sure you're recording this for the podcast. Make sure you record this real quick. Thanks. Thanks, Beams. Hey, Shefty, what's up? It's Jerry O 'Connell. Thanks for your help with that whole Loveland thing. PFT reminded me. Hey, man, yeah, come on in. The water's warm. I would love to have you co-manage this team. Hope you're cool with, like, 20-year-old men coming up to your table and whispering in your ear, Bing-bong, you blew it.

2:11:22Show us your tootsies, Tiffany. Show us your tootsies. You blew it. You're never going to get a driveway ever. respectfully. I fuck your wife respectfully. Hope you're okay with that stuff, Shefty. Yeah, thanks. And we'll talk in the offseason. We'll just have some dynasty combos. See ya. Okay. That was good. I think he's going to be intrigued by that offer. Let me go through some of these things that I might do for you next season. Just sort of like an exit interview. Some ideas that I had going out there. Let's start with the AFC East. Wait. Wait. It pains me to say this. Wait, wait. And he's not there.

2:12:01Time out. Are you doing the whole NFL? This will take 15 minutes, Tops. Let it rip, Jerry. Go for it, Jerry. Go for it. What else do you have to do? Isn't it vacation? I mean, Zach doesn't even take it down to Christmas shit. Yeah. Go for it. Oh, you thought this was just going to be like a fantasy minute thing? No, dude. Go to rip Jerry. Start with the AMC East. Unfortunately, it pains me to say this. He's not there so I can talk shit about him. I can't believe it, but we have to draft all those Pats next season. It's so upsetting that it's 2017, 2019 all over again. They are back. Oh, that said, he's not there so I can't talk to him.

2:12:52I do think this Stefan Diggs thing is going to be a distraction going into the postseason. not helping. I mean, Max, you just got engaged, right? Congratulations. Thank you, Jerry. I mean, let's just say you had a private chef. Like, you were in a good mood after you got engaged, right? Yeah, yeah, I was in a good mood. I mean, would you choke out your private chef if you had just gotten engaged? Like, would you, like, be, like, in that sort of, like, no. You wouldn't even think to do that. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Staying in the AFC East. got engaged? Yeah, didn't he? Wasn't that photo?

2:13:30You tell me that photo was real, dude. Don't tell me it was AI. He took a knee. He took a knee. That's all I need to see. That photo was real. I heard you guys arguing about that. That was real. Oh, I actually have a thing about the Bills. If Josh Allen doesn't, friend of the show, if Josh Allen doesn't do it this season, I don't know when he is with my homes and burrow out of there if he's not going to the super bowl this season i i don't know when he is yeah um oh i really hope george pickens goes to the bills though that would make josh allen a must draft for us next season that'd be great first round uh you think the dolphins stay with yours i do you think they're gonna roll the dice just let him go no i i think they're gonna i think he's gonna be their starter next season okay Would you draft him?

2:14:27If they draft Ty Simpson from Alabama, I would draft him. Okay. If they draft that a wide receiver, not Ty Simpson, Carnell Tate. If they draft Carnell Tate, I would draft him. Okay. Oh, God. Memes. What are we doing, memes? Dante Moore? Dante Moore, Garrett Wilson That's all I have to do Lamar I can't believe you were on the Lamar thing so early on I don't know what websites you're going to But you were on it early Hey, what about Matt Jones? Means I'm not even joking We're just going to run through the entire 2022 class Well, I mean, just like He's going to be out there Yeah, fuck it Okay What about Kyler?

2:15:22sure memes just wants a quarterback i think literally any quarterback number one lamar number two dante i'd probably say number one dante no number one lamar number two dante but i thought you said that you were gonna get lamar and then and then rest him for the entire season that's also true okay memes is memes is uh he hasn't done his own exit interview with himself yet so he's not clear on the plans for next year um all right let's go to the afc north um i wish i could get a beat on jaylen warren he's so hot he's so cold we just can't draft it i just two up and down um a hundred percent i am on dk side but by the way what is the common denominator between that stealers game the um what was that fight called with Meta World Peace?

2:16:20The Malice in the Palace. Yeah, Malice in the Palace. I was going to say the Scrum in the Forum. The Malice in the Palace. What is the common denominator? I don't know. Guys, come on. It's right there. It's fucking Detroit. Detroit. The Malice in the Palace happened in Detroit. I don't want to get sued by anyone who has hats on backwards, but a hundred percent, if you're not on DK side on that, I'm sorry, everybody. Then you're not a sports fan. That guy was, that guy was out of pocket, out of pocket, wanted it, wanted it. DK gave him what he wanted. Yep. Don't sue me. I'm all allegedly. Oh, you know, it was a real fucking letdown this year and we almost drafted him.

2:17:12We didn't, uh, was Johnny Smith. everybody forgets like what a big deal that was him him going to the Steelers um uh you know was I really missed was a I'm moving on to Baltimore um Zay Flowers was a real deal he went in the sixth round and I missed him yeah who'd we take instead of him um not say Flowers um I'll tell you, the big one we missed was in the third round, Jackson Smith, Najigba. We took Jaden, and that was an error. Yeah, yeah, error. It was. What are we doing this offseason? Are we going to work on – what are we doing in the offseason, PFT? Well, we're banning Jerry O 'Connor from drafting him next year, so I think that's going to – the arrow going straight up for Jaden.

2:18:03Straight up to the right. Yep. Right. but are we doing anything any like what like like sort of like what sort of like strength and conditioning are we doing i think we're gonna do more virtual reality stuff so uh process it process things faster yeah more computers yeah yeah yeah computers because because that's the problem um oh man bengals we got to do it again guys we love shitty defenses in fantasy chase brown i'm gonna say it right now ap offensive player of the year chase brown okay wow yeah Yeah Wow Think about it So you have a lot of confidence in Joe coming back then There was some smoke a couple weeks ago I think he's coming back But you're not scared by that I do And by the way This is fantasy guys Okay This isn't teams winning We love a shitty defense A shitty defense and a good offense Yeah That's like That's fantasy That's like a naked That's like Sidney Sweeney That's what you want Yeah Can't Fantasy um but by the way jerry jerry i'm gonna i'm gonna stand up for i'm not i'm not i'm still listening i still have my headphones on i'm just gonna put on the college football games because i just you know i don't want to it's gonna be like halftime by the time we're done with this i just want to say for the record this meeting was supposed to start a half hour ago i've been sitting in this parking lot here down the street from my house it's true pft was i guess i don't know at a plan of fitness i was looking at guys in the locker room i don't know what was like you were talking to guys in locker rooms like where were you I've been sitting here I was here for no joke 40 minutes in a parking lot this time of year we have a lot of conversations with a lot of people regarding our fantasy team our plans for next year I don't want to say who I was talking to or where I was but you know I'm doing my due diligence Jerry do you think that if you really and I think you really care about this it's like pretty much ruined your holidays you know the championship and just and going through it all, but do you think that if you really wanted to show us how much you care, you would have been here in person?

2:20:06Listen, guys, I couldn't. It was my daughter's 17th birthday. They were having a party at our house. On Sunday, right? On Sunday. Yes. Today's Wednesday. Oh, here for this. Yeah, I half expected you to just walk in the door with your briefcase. Yeah, guys, it is. I mean like you know the AOL should know like all the smoke and mirrors that happens. We are recording this on New Year's Eve and I have like a wife and children and stuff. You want to meet a fly to Chicago? No, I did not. You guys fire me and play me messages from Schefter. I just was asking a simple question. If you thought it was important to come here for the exit interview then we would have thought it was important.

2:20:48Hey guys, if it wasn't like the biggest holiday of the year, yeah, I would have been there. big new york guy oh okay if it was some random wednesday in august you know i would have been there yeah um oh uh you know what uh i'm still on the bengals does the name stephanie niles mean anything to you guys stephanie niles i don't know oh yeah um it's actually um it's jake browning's wife who dresses up at those games yeah lovely lady yeah lovely lady and don't put this on the punk list. This is all respectfully. She's happily married. But I like... She looks cute and all those things. It's cute. I like that.

2:21:26It's fun. Jerry, have you ever been to a Diddy New Year's Eve party? Oh. No, I have. I saw you going on to a different podcast and talk about how you've been to Diddy parties. You did your Diddy stories on a different show? Yeah, we talked to him about this. Oh, we did? Oh, yeah. That's on me. That's on me. What other podcast did I say I went to a Diddy party yet i don't know i saw a clip of it i did see a clip too yeah yeah um maybe it was bert bert kreischer um yeah i went to a ditty party um i i didn't get invited i mean i wasn't invited to any sort of like after party um i didn't see anything there was no baby oil involved um i uh was actually asked to leave i was because i was like drinking a lot and um i was asked to leave the party okay oh good good did you do anything i didn't did you do anything regrettable anything that that caused them to ask you to leave you know uh it was what they call a white party so everyone has to wear pure white and uh i immediately came in and got two the bar was so packed it was like six people deep and i got two vodka cranberries and on the dance floor spilled them on my white outfit so i looked like i had like i wasn't in i just looked like a mess i was drinking heavily uh in those days okay i just saw max just wipe the screen there yeah yeah he's quick max diet starts today let's go 2026 so uh so no more afc north hey guys why are you guys dieting why don't you just go on those fucking drugs that everybody's on like what's the deal like everyone just takes that shot we i mean we we're gonna give it an honest try and then we'll see now are you doing that thing where you're like we're on this journey we're partnering with planet fitness and then you're really like secretly taking a shot because that's a little like no no no the only thing i'm in the market for right now is trt which i have a doctor's appointment on monday and i will be very open with everyone if i do in fact start taking trt i too will be open if i get if i get on the big o but right now i'm not there i i'm i'm hoping i the my my biggest fear is going to my doctor and then being like actually you have like high t and i'll be like what the fuck why do i feel like you should you know i was uh i was somewhere recently and somebody in calabasas where i live this suburb this tony suburb that i live in uh an older dad leaned over to me and went hey man you ever think about trt and i was like what and he went no i saw that clip where they said you look like an aging lesbian and you know that there might be something to that and like you should go on trt man like that would that would change that whole narrative It wouldn't call you an aging lesbian.

2:24:11I'll let you know how it goes if I get it. Jerry, I have a question about the work life outside of fantasy right now. What are you working on in terms of your career, your TV movie career, your star? Yeah, I'm actually about to start a movie for a little streaming service called Tubi in the new year. Oh, okay. I will be I'll be traveling to Cape Town, South Africa for it yeah I'll be gone for a little bit I've never been I'm going to go visit Mandela's prison I'm going to do it all I hear it's beautiful so what's the role that you're playing? I play a it's like an aging lesbian no I'm playing a stepdad I'm probably going to have to cut my hair and stuff.

2:25:04It's like a teen movie. So it's all coming off. But I'm glad that we're doing this because I won't be available for the next couple months, guys. Sorry. I mean, people have shit to do, you know? Yeah. Can't you sit around here waiting for PFT to show up? Yeah. So I guess that's the price we pay for having an A-list. When will you be back, Jerry? Because I actually, we do have a plan. We're going to do a PFT. I'll be back in February. Oh. All right. so you're gone for like three weeks uh yeah okay um right you are invited by the way you're invited to max's bachelor party we're throwing a pmt yeah i don't care where i am i'm there you're kidding me it's a highlight of my life i'm out of there i don't care if my children if they're graduating i don't care if they're giving birth to whatever baby they're carrying i'm fucking out of there i'm coming to that okay great great team pregnancy shit um where are we what are they doing cleveland oh what are they gonna do in cleveland i mean they have to start they have to start to sean right i i think maybe i who knows i yeah who knows i mean anybody jump in like uh max means what are they have to start Tashaun.

2:26:25Who's going to take him? I'm worried about this year's real playoffs, Jerry. Yeah, we still got football to go. Max is focused on this year. I'm not worried about what the Browns are doing in 2027. That's why Jerry's different, though. Thank you, PFT. Listen, Jerry, I'm a fair evaluator of talent. We're going to get to the NFC East. Jacksonville, all of them, amazing what an offensive minded head coach does for a team, isn't it? I mean, you're You're feeling it in Chicago. Yep. Liam Cohen, we all made fun of him. You get an offensive-minded head coach, an offensive coordinator as a head coach.

2:27:01Lights out. So awesome. Even Bretton Strange, we're drafting them all. Yeah. Jerry, I have a question. It seems like right now you're just saying which teams had good years and bad years. Yeah. We're not projecting anything for next year. You're just... Well, no, that's not true. I said you weren't listening. Now I'm going to make fun of you like you made fun of me with the Ashton Jente schtick. I had to put the college football on. The Bengals didn't have a good year. That's true. But they had a good fantasy year. Max, you're on fucking thin ice with me with this whole Saquon thing. You just got invited to my bachelor party.

2:27:41And I know your boy is coming back on your offensive line, and everything's going to change in the postseason. We don't give a fuck about the postseason. We don't give a fuck about the postseason. All we care about is week one through week 17. That's it. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. We care about the fantasy postseason, not the real postseason. Right now, Max, every time I saw Saquon looked up and he had five points for us in a game, I was like, I'm going to fucking kill Max. I'm going to kill him. This is all Max's fault. I get it. I get it. Texans. All right, here we go. Here's a team that had a good season.

2:28:14We can't draft any Texans. They're too much of a defensive-minded team. They only have to score like 19 points a game. and we can't draft any of them. Okay, okay. Colts, I mean, Tyler Warren's going to be a fun draft. He'll go in the third or fourth round, and I love my tight ends. Tennessee, absolutely none of them. I have no idea how Pollard had a 30-point game a couple weeks ago. That was crazy. Denver, I got to tell you, Doddington is not that great of a quarterback to draft in fantasy. He just doesn't put up major numbers. fucking i really missed rj harvey though i missed him in this in this draft what do you think about the dog conversation with bo nicks the fact that you know you know you know i gotta tell you and i'm gonna say something kind of sacrilegious and this is part of my take so i'm allowed to have a take um this is kind of a fucked up thing i'm about to say okay um i think mr herb street bringing his beautiful dog it's a great dog everywhere i think it's what we call like it's a crutch okay it's like attention is not given toward you and solely you every all attention goes toward the dog so you bring the dog around with you as i'm honest obviously an emotional thing you know he travels a lot and he's in hotels and it's you need some sort of like emotional support there but no one looks at mr herb street everyone looks at the dog yeah so any anytime i see content about his dog i immediately flip past it and turn it off i don't i don't pay any attention to that this way i honestly to answer your question i don't even fucking care yeah it's like we've got a fantasy team to run i don't give a fuck about oh the dog there was a weird interaction with the dog and he's scared of dogs i loved your debate the other day by the way uh i um i mean it was too expensive but i was really interested in getting one of those mats one of those um yeah you showed up at my house my wife said what the hell is this it's three huge boxes sitting in my front door yeah was it kyler that got them who got them to a to a yeah um i um the other bench quarterback.

2:30:31I was really interested in that. To answer your question, when it comes to the dog, what's the dog's name again? Pete? I don't fucking care. Or is Pete the last one? Pete was the last one? I don't know what the dog's name is. Patrick? No. Might be Pete. This might actually also be instead of doing a diet, maybe we just start walking around with dogs all the time. People don't look at us. guys just fucking go on a glp1 it's what everyone does in hollywood everyone's on it are you on just fucking stop no i'm not um not because of uh because it makes you nauseous and actually my thing is um i uh if i don't go to the gym i lose weight and if you read the comments on youtube r.i.p the comments on youtube uh i look like an aging lesbian so my whole thing is like i need to like for some reason like continually lift weights and like not look like an aging lesbian and according to that older gentleman in Calabasas go on TRT yeah oh the Chargers all of them that offense is just fucking electric that said why do I feel like they're going to lose in the first round of the playoffs like it just feels that way right yeah it's the Chargers so that yeah it's a it's a safe bet um wow none of the Chiefs Taylor Swift isn't going to be there when there's no reason to watch just none of them they're going to have some problems it's gonna be like the old days I think we're all we realize Mendoza's gonna be a Raider we're still in the AFC West here yep that said you know he likes to throw that short ball Bowers is gonna have a good season Gentie Max is gonna have a good fucking season Eagles Max he was projecting for next year I know and Bowers both of those are good I'm just trying to keep you honest here your Eagles by the way I gotta say I went to that Eagles Chargers game the one that Shane went to seeing AJ Brown in person is really something special Max I do have to tell you he is grateful to see him in person is something really special he is a really special athlete he really is agreed from a fantasy standpoint though that team sucks fuck me Saquon really fucked us Dallas again.

2:32:53Okay, Max, here we go. Team that didn't have a good season. We love Dallas. Shitty defense. Super offense. Love them. We're drafting all of them. Did a good fantasy season. Yeah. Man. With the commanders, we're in the NFC East. Can't really draft Bill Merritt because when Rodriguez is back, that's a sort of like dual backfield. It's good for your team. such a bummer about Zach Ertz yeah I don't know PFT it's not looking good I thought for sure that you won the quarterback draft last season but I don't know it's one season so I'm still optimistic on Jaden in the long term do you have any regrets though because it seemed like you were dead set on Jaden and you gassed him up so hard I feel like you have to evaluate yourself right what went wrong with that yeah yeah um you know i gotta tell you too what with uh liam cohen and ben johnson doing so well i think having defensive coordinators as head coaches hurts offenses sorry um i i think um i think from and this is a fantasy i'm a fantasy manager from a fantasy standpoint um when you get an offensive coordinator as a head coach it really helps that offense Yeah.

2:34:14So Jaden, you're not drafting him next year, right? I'm not going to say a term that is highly offensive. Okay, good. I'm not sure he can give us 14 games a season, PFT. Okay. I'm not sure. What's the over-under on how many games he plays next season, PFT? Well, he missed – I want to say he missed one game his rookie year. What's the over-under next season on games just off the top of your head? Top of my head, I'd probably say 15. I could work with 15. Okay. But, again, you're not allowed to draft him, though. I thought we went through this. Yeah. Hey, let's talk about Giants. You have no real Giants in that room.

2:35:01You're still going to draft him. That's what I'm hearing from you. I got the jersey. I can't return it. I know. I need to put it on. I know. It feels like this might be one of those situations where you think that it's worth it to draft Jaden just so that you can be mad at me if Jaden doesn't play, despite the fact that you did all the expectations on Jaden. Guys, we're going to move on. We've talked enough about, once again, guys talking way too much about the Commanders. Really shouldn't be talking about them as far in the postseason. Let's talk about the Giants for a second. You know what? I may have to become a Giants fan.

2:35:37sorry means just because you have no other giants fans in that room and things could get interesting for that team soon um i think their head coach is going to be clink kubiak oh okay and if that's the case every single giant becomes a must draft in next year's fantasy uh fantasy world um i uh Now, if that dude from the Rams, oh, God, he's somebody's son. Who's the defensive coordinator on the Rams? No, that's that's Sean McVay. Yeah, Chris Shula. Now, Chris Shula becomes the head coach. We're not drafting any offensive players who have a defensive coordinator as a head coach. We're not doing that anymore.

2:36:26but I think if Clint Kubiak becomes the head coach of the Giants I think really good things could be coming their way Scadaboo is back gosh that was such a terrible week 16 with Jackson Dart but Malik Neighbors you gotta remember everyone was so high on that team before everything went to shit yeah what happens with Kafka you think he stays no no OC? No. Wow, man. I got to tell you, we're moving on to the North. Big Cat Loveland and Caleb, they're the new Laporta and Goff, man. I like that. He fucking did it. They're so fun to watch. Swift is difficult to draft. You have no idea what he's going to give you.

2:37:10Yeah. It's two backs and you don't know. I think the Bears will probably try to maybe get another running back. Yeah, and a Doonze is hot and cold, you know? He's been injured. Oh, God, Green Bay's such a bummer, isn't it? Just about their defense. They're just, like, limping in. It's just so weird to watch. And you said it the other day, I don't want to repeat, but when Tucker Craft went away, that whole – it's funny how a tight end for some quarterbacks, like, that's it. It's over, you know? Yeah.

2:37:45Vikings, none of them. none of them it's i'm i'm i guess they're gonna have to stick with jj next season but i mean i'm sorry to say this but nine ruined um a perfectly good offense uh and an elite offense um oh i have a question where does montgomery go on the lions he tweeted that what did he get to the bottom of that photo when he tweeted the photo remember he yeah he's not happy of his jersey yeah he's not happy clearly so he'd be someone to watch love montgomery uh carolina is just such a bummer say t-mac everybody um i know doubt all had like some numbers but he's gonna have to split carries with hubbard um okay in tampa is zach is zach there no he's not he's he's he's not if Clint Kubiak becomes Tampa Bay's head coach then all of them

2:38:49because Bowles is not going to be there right? Probably not I don't know I hope not again we're going to follow where Clint Kubiak goes and then draft everyone that he is coaching. I like that that's a good forward looking statement this is what I like to hear from you Jerry Atlanta Atlanta it's just incredible what he's done in Seattle I mean he's like like Liam Cohen like Ben Johnson these guys are other level they're doing things we don't even understand that defenses don't understand um and by the way doing what he's working with in Seattle the guy's a fucking genius yeah um uh Atlanta I'm just not a Penix guy oh god you know what's so funny about Atlanta I was thinking I was watching the game the other night and I was thinking wow their defensive court like jeff ulrich finally stepped it up of course against the rams yeah um guys i mean remember hey max do you remember when i when i crank called you and made believe i was big dom and said do you want to go to the white house no hamas yep i'm i'm familiar remember that max so yep familiar and then you texted me back that video where you went bing bong jerry and you at the White House.

2:39:59That was crazy. Guys, we should really, for April Fools, because we've been really thinking about April Fools, we should really call Jeff Ulrich somehow. Yeah, that's good. I like that. We should crank call him and let him know he's like... We should tape it, maybe, and let him know he's the head coach. We want him to be the head coach of

2:40:25the Giants or something. We should do it. Yeah, we should. We should really fucking get him good. And he can't even get mad at us, can he? Because his fucking son. He has to be like, oh, it's just kids being kids on part of my town. Jerry, I have a question for you. With the Falcons, Bajon Robinson, was he available when we drafted in the first round? I haven't. I glanced at it. I don't have my computer in front of me. What position did we have? Where did we pick? I think we had sixth. I think we had sixth, and we took Saquon. I got to tell you, too, I was also trying to draft with our show. I was trying to say we did it, Max.

2:41:04I thought maybe we would be celebrating and saying Saquon did it for us. But Saquon and the Eagles in that offensive line had a terrible year. And in hindsight, yes, we should have drafted Bajan. I mean, I think Derrick Henry went in the second round. I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed guys I'm not proud of what I've done I'm not even going to defend myself hey PFT I don't like this position I don't like the fact that fucking AWLs get to come up to me when I'm standing in a supermarket line and whisper whisper you should ask chef T for help I don't like that it doesn't make me feel good no i know we have to have just the honest honest conversations tough conversations um uh the saints god isn't it great yeah i mean you said it so i'm not gonna repeat it but alave is just reborn yeah um shuck is awesome the backfield is weird because who is it estimate is it is it camara um is it neil um so their backfield's weird juwan johnson we're gonna fucking draft him.

2:42:23It's going to be awesome. Do you have a vote for your own personal offensive rookie of the year? And if so, who would it be? Chase Brown. Offensive rookie of the year. For this year. It's got to be Tyler. Make a graphic. Jerry O 'Connell's rookie of the year. If you had a vote. We are taping this before week 18, but I don't even care. It doesn't matter. here. Um, Seattle, uh, listen, it's so funny with like Jackson Smith, the jig by having the year that he's having. I do think this is going to change my strategy going into fantasy football. I've been, I'm an older person. I know I'm an aging lesbian.

2:43:13I can't wait till there's no more comments on Netflix. No one is allowed to call me an aging lesbian on netflix yeah because there's no fucking comments awls so fuck you no there there probably will be eventually i think yeah yeah having a lesbian on our show i think will be good in terms of the netflix culture um but my strategy because i'm an older aging lesbian is running back maybe quarterback maybe another running back maybe a tight end but like i go running back first two rounds. With Jackson Smith Najigba's season, I think next year we're going to go round one running back, round two running, round one wide receiver, round two wide receiver, round three wide receiver.

2:43:59I think we're going to go three wide receivers. It's just if you land on a Jackson Smith Najigba, I'm not even having this exit interview. we're counting money. Yeah, that's true. It's just an hour of me counting money. Yeah. It's an hour of me getting a new air conditioning system because that's next in my house.

2:44:26I think we're going to go wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver, which is sort of a new school way of drafting. I like that. Let's go new school. I like it a lot. Jerry, I don't mean to cut you off in your recap. It's a preview. The pre-recap preview. I don't know exactly what it is, but it feels to me. Here's what I'm hearing. I have confidence in you. I'd like to give you a vote of confidence, Jerry. But I would like to be all in next year. Yeah. I'm talking championship or bust. Yep. No matter what. Yep. Is that something that you'd be comfortable with? That pressure? Yes. I love that.

2:45:04All in. We're all in for 20 seconds. Yeah. I want every day of your life For the next year To be focused around the premise of We're all in You're all in Jerry Yeah this year was fluid Next year's all in I do have to tell you guys Just based on like the text chain and everything Don't know how much more in I could have been this season You can go more all in You can be inner I really said I spent a good 80 % of my day is either actively looking on the waiver wires or like thinking about our league like 80 % of my day that's a lot of time I have teenage daughters at home I have a wife who's like this close to leave like this close she's like she's meeting one Brazilian man away she's meeting one like jujitsu instructor away from like leaving me I like and it has to do with like a lot of my focus is basically just on is saquon gonna do anything this weekend will anyone take saquon is there any way i can get a wide receiver for saquon like a lot of my time is spent on thinking about our league i gotta tell you yes i'm all in but i'm not sure how much more i have to give than i gave this season it sounds to me like you're saying that second place in that case like a second place the ceiling if you're as all in it sounds like you're saying that's the best you can do um i i think um well in the third round we drafted a quarterback whose uh elbow went uh like i know most elbows go like this but his elbow like this way went like this and he was just that uh that scrambling quarterback was gone uh we started him his next start but that was a mistake because he was in and out of there pretty pretty fast yeah um we lost that week um whose decision was it to draft that guy it was my decision okay all right so but what i'm hearing though is you sound like you you've hit the the peak like this is all you can do and i'm interested to see how that squares with bring me back i want to win a championship so we got to find a way to be more all-in than we were yeah um i'm all in uh the niners beneath c west uh fuck you guys said it I'm repeating.

2:47:28How good is Brock Purdy? Yeah, it's really good. Let me tell you, everybody's in trouble because that guy is healthy going into these next couple months. It's crazy. He is so good. You know what really fucked us? The Devontae Adams injury. We were starting him every week and winning a lot of games with him. He was just an end zone machine. Yeah. You know, when you have to play Tyrone Tracy in that flex where you were playing davante you're not going to really win a championship yeah um man it's isn't it amazing how this super bowl is definitely going to go through the nfc west it's just crazy how that that that division um arizona i mean i guess coach gannon is coming back even though he struck demarcato by the way uh here's here's a hot take this is part of my take i don't condone hitting in the workplace like you should never hit anyone you know agreed but what demarcato did to coach gannon in that game uh i i thought it justified what what coach gannon did to him like just tapping him on the chest like that i thought he actually could have struck him harder that really he really over coach gannon he really felt like they were going to get a win there yeah when they really needed it yeah and uh i thought he could have actually hit him like harder yeah yeah um Don't condone hitting in the workplace.

2:48:54Oh, you know what? I want to root for Marvin Harrison so bad, but it's just, it's never happening. All right, guys. Thanks for letting me go through that. You can make your decisions off camera. You could talk to other candidates, you know, talk to Stavi, talk to Shefty. I have my decision. Talk to the guy from Third Eye Blind. That was a great interview. Talk to him. I have my decision. Yeah, he was awesome. Yeah. Go ahead. see what he knows and if he's going to listen to Kelly Stafford's podcast for three days to see if Stafford's coming back to the Rams or not and how his back is doing see if the third eye blonde guy will do that go ahead look around see if you can find someone who will spend more time on your fucking high stakes fantasy league hey guys happy new year the AWL's hold on I got a real back question No, no, no, no, no Hold on a second I actually have a rollback It's a rollback poem that I have here R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com Promo code take 20 % off your first purchase Q-Zips, Polos, Hoodies, Joggers Rollback.com Promo code take Rollback.com Promo code take This is a poem For YouTube Oh, okay Okay this is gonna be fun YouTube YouTube YouTube as we say goodbye to YouTube PMT was fresh air and you were all the breath YouTube YouTube YouTube like who can forget the time Big Cat pissed his pants right in front of a horrified Mark Schloreth that why'd you put the mic up to the that stuff will still be on YouTube by the way but yes yes yes why'd you put the mic up to your to your urine.

2:50:48What were you playing? What sound were you hoping to get? Just, you know, interviewing my penis. Stream, yeah. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. Such great times on YouTube. Simply put, part of my take was the bomb. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube, from Billy Football stealing valor to Marlon's man trying to fuck PFT's mom.

2:51:10YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. We love how you report on all the important things that no other journalists will say YouTube, YouTube, YouTube from Kyler playing Call of Duty to some Houston Texan getting his dick sucked every single day. Every day. Yeah. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. Seeing Max find love was beautiful and romantic especially after hearing about all the titties he fucks. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. But no matter how romantic and sweet Max gets Jake Elliott still fucking sucks. Congrats on the engagement. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. Yes, great takes were always had and all the zones. All of you always did spin.

2:51:52YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. Like memes threatening to bomb the... Or Hank trying to pronounce O-G-B-Y-N. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. Speaking of Hank, so many great moments from Hank that all of you did bilk. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. Like the time he never paid his taxes or the time he sucked on his sister-in-law's titties and drank her very own breast milk. I think it was a bottle. I think it was a bottle. Fucking crazy. Yeah. Got it out of the fridge. It wasn't on the titty? I don't think it was straight from the source. No, not out of the tap. No. My version's better. Yeah. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube.

2:52:29We witnessed the birth of a heartthrob, Zach, who makes all the Pilates instructors gooey. YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. We witnessed Jake start a career in sportscasting, but we still have no idea what happened to Huey. No clue. Dibbity dibbity. YouTube YouTube YouTube but let us give Zach his flowers some would call him the glue of the show or even the conductor YouTube YouTube YouTube and while Zach is really good at making ice cream for Big Cat what we really want to know is did he fuck the Pilates instructor did you fuck her Zach did you fuck her YouTube YouTube YouTube so we love that everyone is getting paid now and we love that part of my take is finally getting its credit.

2:53:15YouTube, YouTube, YouTube. But if we want to read the comments now, I guess we'll all just have to go to Reddit. Rest in peace, YouTube. Love you guys. That's beautiful, Jerry. Thank you. Jerry, we are going to get comments on Netflix. Don't worry. You'll be able to see people calling you a lesbian there.

2:53:35Love you guys. Alright, Jerry. By the way, Roback.com promo code TAKE 20 % off your first purchase. I want to say right now, I have my vote. It is for you to continue being our manager pft oh i'm doing my vote right now um i'm still stuck on the all-in thing it doesn't sound like you're all in he can he can wait we can wait we have time i'm just letting you know you have one vote you have one of the two votes it sounds to me like you're afraid of being all in if we're being totally honest because you're saying hey i'm doing all this stuff already i'm listening to kelly stafford's podcast i'm i'm creeping in the bushes outside training camps i'm figuring out all the edges it sounds like you're afraid of being more in and i want you to get over that okay okay i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna sit on that i'm gonna i'm gonna sleep on that i'm gonna let that simmer for a little bit thank you big cat thank you you're you're so motivating you really know how to motivate the troops well i mean we're playing by the way next time we have one of these meetings big uh pft like within 40 minutes like try and be like within 40 minutes of when you call it.

2:54:41You're clearly a busy man. I have a TV movie to go do in South Africa. I have shit to do. But whatever. 40 minutes? Yeah, I'll wait around for you. I'm sure you were trying to get the old Camino started up. I don't know what you were doing. In a plan of fitness, looking for the five-pound plates.

2:55:04Alright, Jerry, we love you. Great season. Great season. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Okay, let's wrap up the show with Firefest of the Week. Back to regular programming next week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Hank, Firefest of the Week. What's up, guys? Missed you guys. Missed you too, Hank. Well, we already did the beginning of the show where we talked about how much we missed you. Yeah, I mean, my Firefest of the Week, we had the week off. It was so not a lot. It was a great week. Got some sun. It was down in Mexico. my fire fest though which I think you guys have experienced too I wasn't thinking I was going to play golf I was a little hungover and I was just excited about going to play golf I posted a picture on my story being like big day first time playing lefty and it was a bad picture I didn't think about it I didn't notice it till I got you know hours hours later and people obviously you know there's a lot of trolls and haters where it's some You can just write them off as trolls.

2:56:06You can call them truth tellers. There was a lot of people. No, but then this is where it hurts, where it's like there's a lot of people that were genuinely like, love you. Are you okay? Oh, because you were so hungover? Like, what is wrong with you? I looked really old. I think it was bad lighting. Yeah, it was bad lighting. Bad lighting. Where did you take it? Was it outdoors? It was indoors, but there was an overhead light right on my face. It was a bad picture. Objectively, bad picture. I looked very, very old, and I got cooked. not just cooked by the trolls but cooked by like people that i think like me that were just genuinely like concern what's wrong with you i'll send you guys a picture i got a question i saw it um wasn't your best picture that's okay i have a question for you hank yes um this year now we're in 2026 you are turning how old 33 3.

2:56:53so you could be old i am old but could be not like this was not us or like you look 45 you know i was so first round lefty like has has trying to be a lefty age you 30 years and it was like i you know again it wasn't i'm i'm i'm used to just writing off trolls as trolls this was like you could tell from the messages yeah you look very old it was you look you look like you're 60 yeah no it's it's it was it was too yeah i mean that's just that's just a vibe but uh it was just one of those. I was like, what is wrong with your torso? I don't know. I was just like, I was like, I know I was hung over.

2:57:36I had some, had some one night before. I was like excited to just go play some golf. And it was like, Ooh, let's, let's post a story for the people. Eight hours later, no one was, no one cared about what I was doing. They were just like, what is wrong with that? It's kind of like that boy bent vibe. Yeah. It's like, and also the, the socks, maybe the shoes your torso is massive yeah i might have to do it might be i might have to get into skincare okay i might have to do like a skincare routine or something and it is bad lighting the the bags under your eyes are yeah on the right side are pretty pronounced also you're hungover yeah right yeah it's a hungover picture yeah but yeah that was the frosted tips look in the sun they look good i mean they looked i they once i got a little tan it was like yeah i i'm kind of sick of them i'm probably going to cut most of them off this week i'm not i might go back this might just be me now but once i got a little tan i was like oh i kind of like him again so hank uh the people want to know though more importantly how did the left-handed round go it went pretty good uh making a decision today this afternoon on what what i'm gonna do for my future but friday on friday friday afternoon friday afternoon are you doing live a big announcement i'm gonna make yeah the decision on wow on live i don't know i might make a video i might do live I think it's got to be live.

2:58:50It's got to be live. It's got to be live. Instagram live. Yeah. How are you going to choose? Are you going to have like... 4 p.m. Central. We will be yakking, but... No, I'll do it. I'll do it. 4 p.m. Yeah. Okay. Are you going to have like two gloves? Probably two hats. You should do two gloves, but then the left one, you select if you want to play right-handed. Right. And then the right-handed one... You should have your hands underneath the table, and then you pull out both your hands. That would be really confusing, but I like that. Mm-hmm. whatever one that has the glove on for a lefty though yeah right so so it'd be a right it would be your right yeah right glove that means that you're going left that's what i'm saying he brings out the left the left glove yeah and they're like oh he picked the left hand plot twist that's actually a right-handed golf glove yeah which hank sometimes yeah so do that struggles with set it up and then yeah have your hands then you just reveal it i like that i'll do that perfect yeah it was it was it was you know great week great time in the sun missed you guys happy to be back i feel refreshed and recharged i don't know if you missed you missed us i don't by the third day i missed you guys okay i think i think you know after whatever did you have any of the dread that zach had no zach was the fact that we recorded which we were always planning on and we said it's like no problem you guys are gone like it's not a big deal we're gonna do a Monday show and then you guys will be back for the Friday show.

3:00:11But Zach had immense amount. I was half expecting him to just get on a flight. Well, yeah, we had the planned time off. I was expecting to do a Zoom show and then you guys will be here. That's just how it goes. Yeah, it doesn't matter. I didn't feel any type of way. And it was helpful. The Patriots just wiping the floor with the Jets helped. If it was the week before where it was like Patriots prime time versus the Ravens, I would have been like this. I feel like I should be there. but no it was it was not zach go ahead you're the dread i thought we were good but then i just saw the chat going and i was like this chat's going in a way of which they're going live and we're not in the seats yeah this can't be good yeah i gotta get to the seat and i was like well there's no way i'm getting to the seat we miss you guys i miss you guys too yeah exactly it's good to be back did you feel any type of of jealousy towards steven chay oh yeah and jerry I think they did a great job.

3:01:05Yeah, they did a great job. Were you rooting for them? You got to. Well, that was like one of those things I didn't want. You guys were, like you said, we decided this a while ago, so it wasn't like I expected you guys to be here. And it also would have been annoying to text and be like, hey, can you guys write a boomer and zoom in? It's like, fuck that. We got Che and Jerry. And on Sunday night, I think Che and Jerry are going to be here, too. Yeah. So we can use them again if you want us to. And Jerry might have another take that's too hot for the podcast. Do you have any? Hank, do you have any guesses as to what?

3:01:33I was thinking about that. It had to be about Mike Tomlin. Yeah. It was so hot. It was definitely too hot. Way too hot. But yeah, the other thing with this time of year in the past few years, I'm excited for January football. Oh, yeah. This time of year when you have a team that has a chance to make a run, there's no better feeling. Yeah. No better feeling. I'm excited. Winter, the Bears season has made it so I'm not even worried about winter. When obviously it, when, and if they get eliminated, it will be winter instantly, but it's not winter until that happens. Uh, all right. PFT. I was actually just thinking the other day about, well, my fire fest is that I was thinking about the Patriots getting to the Superbowl and, uh, and having to pay Hank$50 ,000.

3:02:22And so I, I wanted to do something special for it. And my thought was that I would pay Hank in$50 ,000 worth of quarters. So I actually called the bank earlier this week to see if we could set that up, how long that would take. Plus, I haven't even started. Yeah, but if you want to do$50 ,000 worth of quarters, which I believe is like tons. Silver. Yeah. So I tried to set that up and the bank was like, sorry, we can't accommodate that. Our vault isn't big enough to hold that many quarters in it at once. So now I got to go back to the drawing board. And I talked to like five different levels of manager.

3:02:58and each person was like, what do you need this for? I was like, I might lose a bet to a friend and I want to pay him, but I want to make it a big pain in the ass for him to take the money from me. 625 pounds. 625 pounds. It'd be a shame if you got that. I think I looked up Nichols. Nichols was the one that was tons. What's that, Hank? I said it'd be a shame if they don't make the Super Bowl and you're stuck with$50 ,000 worth of coins. Well, I wouldn't have it, but you have to line it up in advance to get a shipment of that many coins. Yeah, PFT's just in his planning ahead mode right now. He bet the Bucs game today.

3:03:28Oh, yeah. So that's my other fire fest. The days are. It's Thursday right now as we're taping. It's Thursday night. This is Sunday. And about like six hours ago, we were sitting on the couch. We were watching college football. I believe it was like 3.30. It was like 3.30. It was right at the start, I think, of the Indiana game. And I asked through the cave, I was like, what time does the Bucs game start? And then Big Cat turned around and was like, what, like Milwaukee Bucs? I was like, no, no football. And Big Cat's like, it's Thursday. I was like, we're two days away. I thought it was Saturday until about 3.30 p.m.

3:04:05today. You thought the Rose Bowl was just going up against NFL. I put in a parlay that I was super excited about earlier today with the Bucs. It was a double McMillan. It was McMillan for the Bucs, McMillan for the Panthers. I felt really good about it. And then I found out that it was not, in fact, Saturday today at 3.30. But, yeah, this week's weird. Yeah, it's so weird. Every day just blends together. By the way, you were right with the tons. I fucked up that search. Oh, okay. I did$50 ,000 quarters, not$50 ,000 in quarters. Gotcha. Gotcha. And accountability. It would have been very, very heavy.

3:04:38And then my other fire fest is that I'm now addicted to buying mascot costumes. I love the Twisted Tea videos. Yeah, it was great. I bought another one today. Love that. Yeah. Pat? I don't want to say who it is. Pat. I want to be surprised. It's got to be Pat. For everybody. I want it to be based off of the way where your brain is thinking 24 seven. Hank, I'm not thinking about you all the time. It's not. It's not. Max knows. Speaking of speaking of purchases that are not great. We do have an update on the on the go mats. Oh, I thought those were wonderful. We got them. They're crystals. They might be a scam.

3:05:16So they came. I'll say this about the go mats because people remember on Monday we were going through QB gifts and we found Tua got glow mats, go mats for his offensive linemen. I found them. It was like midnight and I bought three of them, $4 ,500 is the total. They got to my house in like two days. I think they work. I think they probably aren't shipping a lot of them out. So they're like, oh shit, we got an order. Yeah. But yeah, I think they kind of work too. Yeah. It's junk science. You just got to believe in it. I felt refreshed. I like when you lay down on it, there's almost like a crystal feel underneath you.

3:05:49So we're going to start doing that all the time. It's a heating pad. No. No, no, no, Max. I get a feeling in my brain. You don't know anything about brain waves, you dummy. Yep. Yep, my bad. Yep. Alpha, beta, and theta waves. Yep, exactly. Okay, my Fyre Fest, I got a couple. I was down in Florida with my family for Christmas, and one I tweeted about. Hank, did you see this one? I did. You liked this one. So I was sitting at the pool the last day. It was my father-in-law's condo, so we were at the pool every day, and I was sitting there with my kids, watching my kids swim, and two guys with their kids were walking by me going to the beach, and one of them comes up to me and is like, hey, you dropped this.

3:06:27And I was like, oh shit, my kids probably dropped something. It was a piece of paper. I opened it up, and it was just 2015 Duke celebrating winning the national title over Wisconsin. So they printed it out and handed it to me, and kept on walking, which I think is the real story here. The guys had the... If they had stopped and been like hey can we get a picture i think it would have gone differently they did not they gave it to me and walked away also they're with kids like oh this is yeah and i yelled at them on the way out i was like hey i i thought i had my coach k fact uh sheet on me but i didn't have my wallet so that one hurt but also credit to them incredible did they did they say anything to you before during the week perfect crime no perfect crime it was they played it so perfectly They did not say anything to me.

3:07:13They didn't like, you know, maybe at one point I was like, oh, those guys might recognize me. But it was never that. And then I texted it to Sam Decker and Frank Kaminsky. And they both were like, you got to go to the ocean and drown them. And I was like, I think you're right. But incredible crime. If anything, maybe this can just bring up the discussion of justice for Pete Gaudet. Yeah. Yeah. I wish I had the cards on me. I didn't. The other one is pool related as well. my two-year-old had a he he pooped in his swim diaper in the pool and it was a whole it actually didn't get anywhere because he was on one of those floaty things but the whole condo just hated us they have to do shutdown they so i joe pot it and by that i mean i went to the front desk and i was like hey you covered it up someone someone pooped in the pool just wanted to let you know and then i was like i did my job yeah i elevated to the right authorities and then walked away it didn't get anywhere like he had a swim the swim diapers are pretty pretty did you do with the turd no it was like you could just see he had a poop in his diapers didn't get out but everyone freaked out and they were just like so that one sucked also someone else noticed it uh no his cousin was like oh i think he just went to the you know he pooped and was like yep he did he was sitting on a floaty thing also i pooped my pants too so have you ever noticed at the pool it always says like if you've had diarrhea within the last two weeks yeah you're not allowed to swim here when was the last time anybody here has gone more than two weeks without having diarrhea never never yeah yeah bunch of perpetrators yeah yeah but yeah i poop myself too one of the nights uh zach um i farted while i was sleeping and i was like uh-oh and then i went to the bathroom and there was so you pooped the bed no it's just in my underwear there was probably a little no a little bit on the bed there might have been a tiny little bit.

3:09:05The next morning, I saw a little on the sheet, and I was like, oh, no. Are you a back sleeper? No, kind of my side. Okay, yeah, it's probably fine. Did you tell your wife that there was poop in the bed? So, the good news was, it was... Or is she finding out right now? No, no. That's what I'm thinking. She might be, because, so here's the good news, was we were staying at an Airbnb, and if you're traveling with little kids, sleeping is a fucking nightmare. They're in a different house, They're like, oh, where am I? So after the first night, which went horrible, we split it up where my son slept in the bed with me.

3:09:41And then my daughter slept with my wife. And the youngest was in his crib. So it was with my son. So I didn't have to tell him. Yeah. No way. No, that's just dude stuff. Yeah, that's right. That's just guys being dudes. Just two dudes in a bed together. One of them happened to shit themselves. It happens. I threw the underwear away. Fine. Perfect crime. Perfect crime. I did the thing where I threw the underwear away. And then I rolled up a bunch of toilet paper and threw it on top of it. So no one saw that there was just underwear in the trash. It's kind of what I do when I eat ice cream. Like a whole tub of ice cream.

3:10:12Yeah, you bury that trash. You got to bury that. Everyone buries trash. That's another thing. If you travel overseas, especially to certain parts of Europe, you never know if it's going to be in a country where you flush the toilet paper. Yeah. Or if you put the toilet paper in a trash can next to the toilet. I heard Greece does the... Some places in Greece you can flush, but most of them you can't. It's crazy. It's really strange. And then you go into a bathroom and you're not sure if it's going to be a flush bathroom or not. Yeah. And then you kind of have to read the context clues. Like you open up the tiny little litter of the trash can.

3:10:42You're like that. I think there might be some poop on the toilet paper that's in there. So I don't know if I can flush. That's one thing. Like say what you want about anything when it comes to comparing the United States and Europe. I think the food might be better in Europe. I think some of the alcohol might be better in Europe. we can at least flush our toilet paper after we wipe our asses with it. And we have air conditioning. And air conditioning. There's two huge things. So respectfully, Europe, suck my dick. Yeah, you guys suck. Yeah. All right, Zach, finish us off. Unless memes and Max, do you guys have one?

3:11:14You guys got one?

3:11:18No, not a good week. Okay. I didn't really think about it. Good week. Good week. All right, Zach. I got a quick one because I also did have a good week. It was a great break. ride share services back home. Ride share services. Yeah, a little ride share issue. I didn't really, last couple months here in Chicago, I used a lot of Uber, a lot of Lyft, no car. I did the same in back home, but it was the first time I ran into the same driver multiple days in a row. Ah. So I had this one lady, nice lady, we're taking a ride. And I've never thought about being in strangers' cars when you take these services until the other day that it is just a stranger's, their own car that they take home and take everywhere else.

3:11:56yep so where she's just driving and it's you know like the vanity mirrors that drop down yeah just spider drops down on a little web lands on her lap she like kind of freaks out goes like two lanes this way into the turning lane and then she cries a little bit and is like sorry there's a spider and i was okay that's fine no worries we're good and then instantly i could think about is like this stranger's car could just be filled with spiders oh the entire ride uh did you did you she hit anything no uh no because that would have been so funny if you got in another car crash so so because you've been in like eight yeah i get in her car two days later unbeknownst to me she makes a spider joke as i'm getting in i'm like oh this is the same lady spider car yeah this is the lady spider car and then we're pulling out of my uh like street to get on the main road there's like a two lane here and then a median like grass concrete you know what i mean yeah and then two more lanes and then she just takes the left straight up onto the median and is on the median for like eight to ten seconds which doesn't sound like a long time no that's very long but we were really on the median and then she she goes oh i hope my tire's okay and then she goes i never do this i promise i'm a good driver and i it's a good it was a good realization like as a guy who said i promise i'm a good driver several times i'm not a good driver that's that's what you say i think she had a crush on you no she put her life in danger two separate times i know but she was like she saw those eyes and she she was distracted there was no spider i i did get her number just in case i could get the dash cam footage oh shit just for dash cam footage though was she she has not yet sent it was she uh would you date her uh i would ride share again but with a helmet but you would date her no not i don't know about that that's what What age range was she in?

3:13:42Probably like early 30s. Oh, Zach! I'm not sure. Zach! But I say all that just to say... If the spider lady's listening to this right now... Careful going in a stranger's car. This is a Hallmark movie. Holy shit. There's a PSA that be very careful in ride chairs. But you also... Because of spiders. PSA... You might fall in love. But it could be anything now. Yeah, PSA, you might get in a ride chair, and then next thing you know, you're wifed up. That would be quite the story. You might get your heart stalled. You should see if she'll give you a ride, give your location in Chicago, see if she'll come to you.

3:14:13Oh, yeah. Then you know. Fly her out. But that would be quite the Uber. It would be, but that would be - Listen, you'd travel for love. Ride your - Yeah. How romantic would that be if she just pulled up to your apartment in a new car that she rented here? Yeah. So a spider-free car. You need a ride? No, I think she's a BYOS. She brings her own spider. That makes sense? Yeah. I'll give you a ride, big boy. Were you expecting this story to end this way? No, it's just now ending this way now. This was more about public safety. That is true. Dude, Zach, imagine getting roadhead from her, but she's still driving?

3:14:55That's like a porn. That's literally a porn. She's driving your shotgun? She was so kind, and there's a dash cam, so that would be bad. Okay. Or hot. It might be hot. That would be really hot. Yeah. I mean, she can't drive worse? I don't know. I mean, she leveled it up the next day. Yeah. But I'm saying - We were surfing on that medium, big guy. Did she blame the spider for the second turn? I would have blamed it. I would have been like, oh, there was another spider. Yeah. She blamed her window tent. She's like, oh, I knew this window tent was too dark. What? Is the windshield winded? No, she goes, look, the front's not too bad.

3:15:26She just had like the strip. And she's like, but when I'm looking out the side window, this is your vehicle. That's like Jerry. I mean, Jerry can't see out of any window of his car. because the seat's not high enough. Yeah. And also the window tint. You got to have your own car fine-tuned. We can't be just finding out our window tint's too dark. You're right. You're right. Okay. Good fire fest, boys. Let's wrap up. We got Jack Pocket. It's time for this week's Lottery Ball segment brought to you by Jack Pocket, the go-to app for ordering official lottery tickets right from your phone. Mega Millions, Powerball, State Lottery Games, even scratch-off tickets.

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3:17:16I think it was memes. We can check. Let's check. Memes. Okay. Memes? Max didn't even check. Yeah, checked memes. He didn't check. He didn't check. I checked. It's memes. He didn't check at all. 100. I'll go 26. I'll go 15. Is that Mendoza's number? Yeah. 15. I will go 60. I'll go 66. 62. 8. Good luck, memes. Thank you.

3:17:54Oh, that's it. Oh, man. Oh, my God. First of the year. Oh, my God. It happened. He did it. Let's go, memes. Memes. We may have to go back and check that. Max, did you actually check it? I didn't. Can we check it? Max. No, we did check it. Oh, no. No, I do think it was memes. We have to hear. I think it was memes. I do think it was memes. I think it was memes. We got to check it. Wow. We got to check it. Memes. Memes, step out of the booth. We got to check it. I don't think we can. We got to check to see you at it. We can't until we like to go. Step out of the book. Oh, my God, memes. Let Max look at it.

3:18:31You have to look at it, Max. No, we can't. What do you mean? Memes won't. No, no, no. You got to check it. We should check. He got it. You've got to check. How do we check? I think memes got it. Yeah, go check the stream. All right, go. No, the stream won't do anything because we need to check the tracks. You can just tell. You know what? You know what? I'll give it to you. Memes, you got it. Wait, so not officially checked? But I'm giving it to memes. Is it asterisk? I'm giving it to memes. No, no asterisk. But are we checking or not checking? I'm giving it to memes. What do we do with this thing now?

3:19:04We got to get a new machine. We have to get a new machine. This is the greatest omen that's ever happened in the history of the show. What a year this could be for you, memes. The first of the year? Damn. What a moment. You're not nearly as excited as you should be. I haven't shot. You haven't said anything. He was pumped. I never thought it happened. I never thought it happened. And the fact that you got it first year, because getting it... I also could barely see it because there's just a glare from the clocks. Oh, it's 13. It was memes? It was memes. No, it was three. It was three. Memes. Unbelievable.

3:19:42How many was he away from the record? 25. Oh, yeah. 25. Oh, Hank. So who's the longest now? Me. I'm still me. Still Hank. No, but right now, who has the longest current streak? What we got to do is we're going to get a brand new lottery ball machine. Yeah. It's also Hank. Oh, Hank. Oh, Hank. Hank, it's been forever since you got it. How long has it been since Hank got it? 988 days. Wow. What? That's not true. No, that's his longest drought. Oh, longest drought. My bad. 320 days since he last got it. Wow. Wow. Hank, better not let that drought go any further. Nah, we got to get a new machine. machine.

3:20:22You gotta get a new machine. Everyone's gotta get the new machine. It just restarts. Unbelievable. Congrats, memes. That is the best omen ever. Ever. To start the year. Ever. To start the fucking year. Jets gonna get a franchise quarterback, then they're gonna win the Super Bowl. Wow. Lamar. Let's not get too crazy. Maybe that'll be the number Lamar wears. Lamar! What if Lamar wears... Does anyone wear three that... We gotta bet on a three this weekend. Yeah. Something three's gonna come up. What are you thinking about oh georgia three seed oh yeah oh wow memes i'm happy for you love you guys what what what we're not that happy and then now the the lottery ball is dead no i'm happy for me no we're gonna get a new we're getting a new machine i'm a winner okay today today i won there you are today you're a winner i won yeah you did no no max we're gonna I'd say by the end of, by after Super Bowl, we'll probably have a new machine that we can christen.

3:21:26I'm very. That ball's gone. And that, I saw it. It just dropped there. And then the new machine will literally just be a race to see who can, who's the last to get it. And then it just repeats itself. I'm very happy for memes, but I'm very, I'm upset that we don't have anybody to bully. Well, again, Hank is the longest drought by far. Yeah, ever. Still. Days and guesses. Not even really close either. Not even close to close. No. 988 days. This also just means. 404 guesses. What? Everyone's open to get the treatment. Oh, no. Calendar year. It actually makes it more fun because it becomes a race.

3:22:04Only one person this calendar year. Good point, Hank. Oh, I'm excited. Congrats, memes. I am happy for you because it had to happen. Wait. Have you guys got it this year? Calendar year, memes. Have you got it this year? I have not. I have not got it. You're right. I have not. I have. You have the power. Yeah, you have. Yeah, you have. Yep. Unless PFT said it before you. This is fantastic for me. For me. Think about the guy who just tweets at you every single day. Could you imagine if... That guy's girlfriend? Oh, my God. Yeah, that guy's girlfriend? Oh, man. Could you imagine if PFT actually said it first?

3:22:39I didn't. That would have... No, no. It would have been... No, no, no. Yeah. You didn't, but I'm saying... Like, if you just said it a little bit earlier... Yeah, I know. And you actually beat him... Well, B-Cat said the word number, but he didn't say numbers, which is why I had to stop myself earlier. I would have had you on that one. But, yeah. Listen, honestly, when we said it, I thought like 75 % chance memes beat me. And then as I started to think of what that would look like if memes got it and then we went to the videotape and it was me, I gave it to memes strictly out of self-preservation.

3:23:14That's why when you asked me, I didn't even look. I just said memes. I thought I – There's no upside for being on the other side. I saw it on the... I thought I might have been murdered. So, congrats, memes. I didn't even think about it. No, you got it. You actually got it, yeah. That one sucked. I got a number three for you. What? Russi. Stop. Is Russi playing? No, I'm just saying he wears number three. He likes New York. He does. Russi on the Jets? Nope. Nope. Jets also probably going to have a third overall pick. Oh. okay it's big stuff memes congrats huge love you guys winner

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