CFB With Brandon Walker, CFP Rankings, Patriots Crush The Giants, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + Listener FAQ's

3 Dec 2025 · 2 h 24 min

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Podcast Summary: Pardon My Take - CFB With Brandon Walker, CFP Rankings, Patriots Crush The Giants, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + Listener FAQ's

Episode Overview

In this episode of *Pardon My Take*, hosts Big Cat and PFT Commenter welcome college football expert Brandon Walker to discuss the latest College Football Playoff (CFP) rankings, the recent performance of the New England Patriots, and the ongoing coaching carousel in college football. They also engage in a segment of "Hot Seat/Cool Throne" and answer listener FAQs.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. College Football Playoff Rankings
  2. James Madison's Historic Ranking: For the first time, James Madison is ranked in the Top 25.
  3. Committee Criticism: The hosts critique the CFP committee for its decisions, particularly regarding group of five teams.
  4. Arguments Against Committee Decisions: Discussions on the absurdity of potentially having two group of five teams in the playoff while leaving out traditional powerhouses like Notre Dame.
  5. Brandon Walker's Predictions: Brandon shares insights into rivalry week, potential national championship contenders, and his obsession with Oklahoma.
  1. NFL Discussion: Patriots vs. Giants
  2. Patriots Dominate the Giants: Review of the Monday Night Football game where the Patriots crushed the Giants.
  3. Coaching Carousel: Commentary on coaching changes and how teams are faring in the current NFL landscape, including the struggles of the Steelers.
  1. Hot Seat/Cool Throne Segment
  2. Hot Seat: The Steelers and their current struggles under Mike Tomlin.
  3. Cool Throne: The fans and their passion for the teams, including their reactions to coaching decisions and team performances.
  4. Discussion on Penalties: The curious case of a referee’s decision in the Patriots-Giants game and the impact of such calls on the game's outcome.
  1. Listener FAQ's
  2. Fan Bases and Allegiances: The hosts discuss various fan bases in college football, including their strengths and weaknesses.
  3. Coaching Decisions: The impact of coaching decisions on team performance and future prospects.

Key Takeaways

  • The CFP has become a controversial topic with varying opinions on which teams deserve to be in the playoff.
  • The conversation around Lane Kiffin highlights the instability in college football coaching positions.
  • The Patriots' performance raises questions about their trajectory moving forward under Tomlin.
  • The emotional investment of fans and how it shapes the narrative of college football and NFL seasons.

Discussion Highlights

  • Lane Kiffin's Departure: The absurdity of Kiffin's situation regarding his dog and the implications of his departure on Ole Miss.
  • Fan Reactions: Strong opinions from fans illustrating the highs and lows of college football allegiance.
  • Brandon Walker's Insights: His perspective on the coaching landscape and what teams need to do going forward.

Conclusion This episode of *Pardon My Take* provides a deep dive into the current state of college football and the NFL, featuring engaging commentary and expert insights from Brandon Walker. The discussion reflects the passion, drama, and complexities of the sports world, making it a must-listen for fans.

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0:00Hey, Pardon My Take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcast and Spotify. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music On today's part of my take presented by DraftKings We have college football expert Brandon Walker on the show in studio We're going to break down what happened last week Lane Kiffin saga What's coming up this week with Championship Sunday We're going to react to the college football rankings at the start of the show on Zoom And then we'll kick it back to ourselves in the studio talking monday night football hot seat cool throne faqs and it's all brought to you by our friends at game time the nfl's in full swing tailgates pack stands that buzz before kickoff but getting in nightmare cues price jumps getting logged out mid-click all you want is to be there beer in hand losing your voice with the crowd the game time app gives the advantage back to fans the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps it's incredibly easy to use the game Game time guarantee means you can trust you get 100 % authentic tickets on time and at the best price.

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1:58Pardon my take.

2:28raced by any of the at-large teams. I just want to make it clear that I'm not going to address that. I'm only focused on the opportunity in front of me, which is getting into the playoff. It is absurd that we found ourselves in a situation, because of the design of the playoff at large, that you could have two group of five teams that get in to college football's championship crowning tournament, and you have teams like Notre Dame that could be left out. Does that mean that JMU is better than Notre Dame? I have no choice but to say yes, it does mean that because we would be in, Notre Dame would be out.

3:05But yeah, it's an absurd situation that we found ourselves in given what happened with the ACC. I think if they had to do it all over again, they would probably make it the four top-ranked conference champions that would get the automatic bid. I feel like that would probably be a more fair way if you're really trying to get the best 12 teams into the mix. But what the committee did today, having UNT ranked 24, as I suspected, if UNT beat Tulane, I think that they would obviously be ahead of JMU to make it in. I even thought that if UNT was not ranked, I thought that if they beat Tulane, that would be enough.

3:42They'd jump JMU. That's not really surprising to me. Whoever wins the American is going to get in. JMU, the brotherhood with Duke. If Duke wins, I don't see a world where they put Duke in. I think they put JMU at 25 to signal that if JMU beats Troy, handles business in Harrisonburg, that JMU will be ranked above Duke if they win the ACC championship. But UVA obviously gets in if they beat Duke. So we got a long ways to go, but it's a lot of chaos. It's just kind of cool to think about a world when JMU could be in the 12-team tournament. I actually so you know has been texting me recently Joey Harrington getting the trash talk started looking ahead to that that JMU Oregon potential matchup.

4:28I think Oregon would be favored by like 18 points. But if we covered that's my national championship right there. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, the so I've seen the take thrown around because obviously people are mad about the two the potential of James Madison and a North Texas search lane being in that we shouldn't let two automatic qualifiers. yeah, okay, well then either make it 16, which I think is probably too many because we're going to talk about this with Brandon, but this is last year. We didn't have enough good teams. This year, we have too many good teams. So either make it 16, or if you want to just make a different playoff for everyone who's not in the power four, which would suck, but that's the only solution because you can't have a sport where it is just impossible for half of the teams to not be in the tournament.

5:16You're just saying that it's going to be Big Ten and SEC, and that's going to ruin the sport even further. So it's chaos right now. We knew it was going to be chaotic and weird for the first couple of years of this. I think it eventually will get to 16, and then people will stop pitching as much because you're getting closer and closer to where the natural rankings are of a JMU and a Tulane. But the big thing that came out tonight was that we thought maybe there was a chance that Notre Dame and Miami because they did play in August. There would be the committee trying to creep Miami up a little bit more.

5:52That did not happen. Notre Dame did drop a spot for Alabama beating Auburn, but it's essentially set in that the only thing that could keep Notre Dame out is if BYU beats Texas Tech. If BYU beats Texas Tech, then they'll have to let BYU be in, and I would assume that Texas Tech wouldn't fall past Notre Dame. other than that there can't be a lot of movement left I guess they could maybe bounce Alabama with three losses if they lose to Georgia but that would also be very chaotic because Alabama beat Georgia earlier in the year so you could say well they they're one and one against each other but other than that like I didn't see a whole lot of stuff the Ole Miss thing they didn't they didn't penalize Ole Miss for losing Lane Kiffin in fact they actually went up a spot and Texas A &M fell all the way to seven.

6:42So, yeah, I think it's pretty straightforward what we have coming up on Championship Saturday. The thing that the committee does not want to happen is for Texas Tech to lose to BYU and Alabama to lose to Georgia because then they have some hard decisions to make. Yeah, I think if BYU beats Texas Tech, what's going to happen is they're going to put Miami in. Because they put Miami and Notre Dame so close. wait so who would go out so wait so if if BYU loses then it would they're out they're already out right now right right but if BYU loses then I think they would have Miami and Notre Dame ranked consecutively right that's still Miami out but no that's what I'm saying I'm saying that if they're ranked like right next to each other I think the committee looks at that and they ultimately say well Miami and Notre Dame did play and then Miami's in I don't know so you're saying Miami would jump Notre Dame with both of them not playing if their name it's as it's as simple as this it's as simple as their names being written directly next to each other one number apart and then one team beat the other team I think that's what the committee would would do but they also So they also necessarily, they wouldn't have to do that if Bama loses, because then they just have Notre Dame at the nine, Bama at the 10, Miami at the 11.

8:09I guess they could do that. And what this has really taught us, it's made dudes do math. We don't know that we're doing math, but we're learning about the transit of property. If you grew up learning about the transit of property, but you had a strong identification with one number, and you grew up wearing that one number on all your hats and jackets as a kid, and you love that number and then now you have a reason to fight for that number and explain why that number is actually superior to the others yeah Hank said three good call Hank the other thing that happened I think we all knew it was gonna happen but Texas and Vanderbilt are they're just out like we can stop we can stop with that it stinks because you know they are both two lost teams that and I do understand the one thing that I will agree with and and I I think you have to include the the the automatic qualifiers because again you can't just eliminate half of the sport you can't just be like half the sport has no chance of getting in but if you said to me right now does James Madison Tulane or North Texas have a chance of winning it all I'd say no does Texas or Vanderbilt I'd say maybe I don't know like they played some of these teams they beat some of these teams and so yet like texas beat oklahoma who's very much in you know vandy went in and who did vandy beat they they didn't beat anyone who's in right now but they obviously beat some top 25 teams throughout the course of the season so yeah like they have played those type of games um yeah it's all a mess it's all stupid it's all not perfect we're deciding the champion of a sport not based on who the best 12 teams are in that sport.

9:52Yeah. Which is kind of a fucked up way to do it. But if that's the pool that I'm going to be swimming in, you better believe I'm going to be going for the world record. Yeah. To me, I'm just – I'm playing the hand that I was dealt here. And if you're saying there's a chance for JMU to get in, I am going to absolutely do everything that I can to root for JMU. All that. But you have to be realistic about it. And there's no chance that a team that plays in the Sun Belt would ever be considered to be one of the top 12 teams in the entire country. Yeah. And listen, the other thing that you have to, that this committee will continue to do that makes no sense, that is like, you know, antithetical to sport and what we watch is that they still do the bias of what your preseason rank was.

10:42Because if you just look at Oregon and Ole Miss, Oregon has not beaten the team that's in the playoffs right now. Ole Miss has. They both have one loss. one you know Ole Miss lost to Georgia Oregon lost to Indiana those are two top four teams but Oregon but Ole Miss has a better win so it's like but why is Ole Miss behind Oregon because Oregon was ranked higher to start the season that's just how it works it's crazy in fact I would like to speak on on behalf of the Sunbelt Conference and just to the American Conference I think I think the winner of those two conferences should play a play-in game to get that'd be cool i'd be okay with a playing game more football that'd be fun that'd be fun um okay so last thing i had before we get to uh ourselves talking monday night football i did want to give a shout out to one of the one of the best tweets this might actually have to be in the takeies one of the best tweets of the year was from seth roerbaugh on um november 30th so What was November 30th?

11:46Was that Sunday? That was Sunday. Sunday night. He said, Mike Tomlin will say something like, we can't eat soup with forks. We need spoons. Then the Steelers will sign a 2018 Pro Bowler to the practice squad. The Steelers did sign Adam Thielen today, who was a 2018 Pro Bowler. That might be the tweet of the year. He predicted he Mike Tomlin has gotten him. We're going to talk more Steelers in a minute, but Mike Tomlin has gotten to the point where you can just perfectly troll him and predict everything he does. And this came on the day that Aaron Rogers turned 42. Happy birthday, Aaron Rogers.

12:20I did send him a happy birthday message. He did not respond, did not expect a response from him. But this is where the Steelers are at. He got a new phone, right? He got a new phone. Yeah, right, right. The Steelers are in a spot where they're like, yeah, Adam Thielen, let's get him. Yeah, he's beyond parody. You're never really satirizing Mike Tomlin. You're just early. Right, right. Right. And the Steelers are just become a retirement home for players. It's crazy. It's absolutely insane. Respect to the good people of Pittsburgh for booing Renegade. I'd be upset too. Yeah, they have every right to.

12:56Okay. Oh, yeah. One more thing. Max, I had this idea right when we left the office. Because after we left the office earlier, we taped this a little bit out of order. Kalani Satake had not signed the extension, not agreed with BYU. It looked like it was trending in that direction. but since it's official he's going back Penn State still looking for a head coach Max what do you think about this what do you think about Penn State taking one for the team for the city of Philadelphia and hiring Kevin Petulo I saw that tweet oh that was someone else's idea to just get Petulo no that was PFC I saw him tweet it and I saw him tweet it.

13:41I was thinking for Max. I was like, this could solve a problem for you, Max, because you get rid of the guy that's ruining your season right now, and then, yeah, maybe you just punt on one season for Penn State. Fun fact, Max actually turned down a better deal last week that ended up being true, but he didn't shake on the deal, so he fucked up because I tried to make him a deal. Bears get a statement, win. Eagles fire Kevin Petullo. He wouldn't take that. I don't think the Bears did get a statement win and they didn't fire Kevin Petulo. So if he had shook on that deal, he would have had that. I don't think you can hire a brand new offensive coordinator with like four weeks to go in the season.

14:22Why not? When has that ever worked out? I don't know. Chip Kelly's out there. Yeah, why not? No, I don't. Max, think outside the box. We're solutions guys, not problems guys. Sirian has already said there will be drastic changes this week to the offense. So you're saying that Chip Kelly coming in the door, you would rather have Kevin Petulo than that? Yes. How the fuck are you supposed to implement an entire new offense in three days? Just tell him to fucking run and get open. You just have to tweak what you're already doing. You can't have a brand new guy in three days unless it's someone already inside the building.

15:03Technically, it's like Kevin Petulo guy. Also, technically, it's like five days as you play Monday Night Football. Good point. Yeah. So that's two extra minutes. What? You guys could set the trend. Just get it going. Yeah. You're the first to do it. Yeah. Are you saying Jalen Hurts is dumb? What? They can't learn a new offense? I still think Zach is in a great screen. Jalen Hurts has learned a new offense every single year of his career. There you go. Then just – But that's a year. Sorry. Okay, Max. You know what? I was trying to do a good thing for the city of Philadelphia for you. What's wrong, Memes?

15:36Memes has his hand up. What's wrong, Memes? All right, so in 2012, the Ravens fired their offensive coordinator after starting 9-4, and then they went on. Oh, damn. When has that ever worked? How about a soupy? 13, yeah. It happened one time in the past 25 years. I mean, one-for-one soupy. You keep having fun with Petulo then. It's not one-for-one soupy because offensive coordinators do get fired a lot in the middle of the season. They do. Oh, so I mean, the Bears fired Shane Waldron last year and everyone. Yeah, that's what. But you weren't trying to win it like you weren't going to win it. But look.

16:19Yeah, but look where we are now. But you could just fire him in the offseason. I thought you were trying to get a football this year. I'm done with getting head starts. I'm done with getting head starts. All right. Head starts are nothing. Let's kick it to ourselves in the studio. We talk some Monday Night Football, then we have Hot Seat, Cool Throne, and some extended college football talk. Very fun time with Brandon Walker. Okay, before we talk Monday Night Football and Hot Seat, Cool Throne, DraftKings. DraftKings' newest game, Pick 6, is the easiest way to play for your shot at big wins. Here's how it works.

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18:03promos okay hank you're going in the bye week at 11 and 2 that's pretty crazy insane insane i thought we were going to be the best team on this podcast i didn't think we're going to be this good yeah but then you thought that maybe you wouldn't be the best team on this podcast yeah yeah you said you actually nailed on that after week one you were like nah it's not going to happen we're 11 and 2 and it feels great yeah that's all that matters i mean they looked i mean the giants stink but it doesn't matter. They made them look like they stink, which is what a good team should do. Yeah. Look good.

18:36Jersey's unreal. You love the redcoats. You're a big England guy. I love the redcoats. And now you have a bye and then Bills and Ravens are your two biggest games on the rest of the schedule. And there's a chance the Bills could be a T-shirt and hat game. Oh, interesting. At home. So if the Bills lose this week, it could be a T-shirt and hat game. Wow. Wow. I thought the Patriots looked unbeatable last night. Like a legitimately great team. That punt return was so sick. The punt return was incredible. All three phases. Did you see Vrabel's vest that he was wearing earlier this week? I think he was wearing it maybe the one that said no naps on it.

19:15How do you feel about that? If Vrabel says no naps, I'm no naps. Oh, that's just not true. And that's kind of a guy. You have to nap. You're a nap guy. I'm a team guy, though. If Vrabel's saying no naps, no naps. You're done napping? yeah i mean i gotta i gotta make sure that is the correct no nap december maybe it was like it could have mean something else i don't know means stay woke but if it's no naps it's no naps okay yeah i have no choice i mean vrabel's obviously a great coach we love vrabel he was maybe it's like him and ben johnson you guys made great hires when it comes to coaches this offseason that's very funny shirt i hadn't seen it the no naps yeah and uh it seemed like one team was excited ready to play football the other team not so much yeah it was okay i mean he lost to the giants it was definitely i kind of realized that when they were showing all of the eli manning stuff was like this is a revenge game for rabel like he hates hates the giants yeah and the giants i mean the giants i think the giants hate the giants they the the game started i feel like for the first quarter the giants offensive line was fighting more after the whistle than during the game and because jackson dart got blown up but it was even before that yeah we had young young way coup with still i don't understand that looked like me in the t-box i'm gonna i'm gonna professional i'm gonna defend young way coup how all right well first of all of course he dug his foot of the ground his name is not young housewife that's what hoes do second of all his explanation after the game actually made sense when i watched it like everybody else i was like that's the worst kick I've ever seen.

20:50It was the yips. Yeah, like the yips. I thought he had the yips where it's like, you can't come back from that. He's just broken mentally. Like Giants kickers have had the weirdest history of physical ailments. Now it's moved its way upstairs into the brainstem. But when I heard his explanation after the game, I watched it again. It looked terrible. What was his explanation? His terrible was after the ball was snapped, the holder, Gilliam, he caught it and then the ball started to fall a little bit. And so at the last second, Youngway pulled up, and that's him pulling up on the kick because he thought it was going to fall down.

21:23If he was actually trying to kick the football, even if you hit the ground like that, your foot's going all the way through. You're going to follow through at the end. It's not getting stopped when you hit the ground. Like, for example, Hank, if you're hitting a lob wedge, right, and you're 20 yards off the green, and you hit it really fat, you're not swinging that hard, so it's going to get caught up in the ground, and your club's not going to go anywhere, right? but if you're actually making an attempt, even if you hit the ground, it's going to bounce off the ground. It's going to go forward.

21:50He was trying to pull up on the check swing. It was a check swing. And it ended up looking like the biggest disaster of a field goal. They asked him about after the game. And he said, yeah, that's actually happened one other time to me. So this is like the second time that he's had this disaster of a kick, but it was, yeah, it was, it was a terrible looking attempt. I'll give him that. Yeah. I'm going to say, I don't care about his explanation. That was, that was just the dumbest play ever. Like, there's no way that's not carrying over. Yeah, it was hilarious. There's no way that's not going to, like, there's no way that's going to get in his head going forward.

22:20Yeah. Even if he was like, yeah, I was trying to do that, there's no way that he's not going to maybe probably have the yips for, like, at least a week. Well, yeah, he wasn't trying to do that. And, again, it's a disaster of an attempt. He just thought the ball, it's more of an insult to his holder, being like, I thought he was going to drop it. Yeah. And then just letting him get blown up on that. But yeah, the Giants, when Jackson Dart ran out of bounds and then his team came to his defense, Jackson Dart was in bounds running, trying to get a first down. The guy has to learn how to not die because he just, like, that's actually all the Giants should be focused on in the last five weeks of the season because they're not good.

22:58Their fans are very upset that Joe Shane has not been fired, rightfully so. just don't get Jackson Dart hurt because he doesn't know how to keep himself healthy. Yeah, he doesn't. And his explanation was like, yeah, that's how you ever watch me play football. That's how I play. You don't have to be a fucking idiot. On a two-win team. On a two-win team. Yeah, and he was going for the first down. He was in bounds, and he got lit up. If I was a defensive player in the NFL and I see the Giants on my schedule, I'm like, I'm going to get to crush a quarterback this week. And he's not Mahomes. Mahomes probably gets that call.

23:33And he also gets out of bounds. It's not a penalty. It's the thing where he gets out of bounds. Yeah. Right at the last second. That was not a penalty at all. No, I know, but I'm saying it was so violent that like. Yeah, no, you're right. Moe's right. I guess it's just pure what just happened. But it's Jackson Dart. That's where it's like he's not playing high school football. He just can't. You can't get injured. You have to have a full offseason. I think Jackson Dart is a good quarterback. I think that's the one saving grace for this Giants team in another terrible season. is like you think you have a guy, you have to keep him healthy.

24:05Also, you had Abdul Carter. He now has more soft benchings than he does sacks on the season. So he didn't play the first two series. That's the second time this year that he has been benched to start a game. He has one and a half sacks. Mike Kafka afterwards just said he just didn't give an explanation. He just kept on saying, I talked to him. I talked to him. They're like, did he miss a meeting? I know there was a fake report going around that was very funny that he unplugged his headphones in a meeting and porn was playing. That was not real, but also very well done. Apparently has something to do with tardiness.

24:40Yeah, he's just late. He's got a late problem. I don't know if he was in the training room again and that was another miscommunication, if that was just a bullshit thing that they said the first time. But I also feel like it's a bad sign if your interim head coach is becoming a disciplinary. Yeah. That's not great vibes for the team. Hank, I have a stat, not an insult stat, a real stat that you'll enjoy about the New England Patriots. I have some bookmarks. I mean. Drake May have 300 yards? Drake May did not have 300 yards. It's funny that it's becoming a story that people are asking Drake May about it now.

25:14Listen, I'm just trying to find something to nitpick about Drake May and his amazing season. Who gives a fuck if he throws for 300 yards? He's throwing for like 280 every week. No, you can't. Don't give up. Don't give up. No, no, no, no, no. Max, Max, let me finish. Stay strong. Let me finish. You got to keep saying he sucks. But I'll be goddamned if I'm going to stop talking about that. There we go. There's an elite club, and all the players know about it, the 300 Club. The 300-yard club. Yeah. It's very important. There's a giant mural that they have in Park Avenue in the NFL headquarters, and it's the movie poster from 300 with all the players that have gotten 300 with their shirts off with six-pack abs, and Drake May is not on it.

25:55And it's kind of interesting that he's not on it. It's because you're leading the game so much. What happens when you're going into the fourth quarter and you're up 20? They were still passing in the fourth quarter. Yeah, but it's a different... They were trying to get him 300. Yeah, they were. They were trying to get him 300. Honestly, it's in Josh McDaniel's head. Yeah. He's like, I got to get this guy 300. It's 100 % not. What's your stat? Let's hear the stat. He's definitely thought about it at least once. No. I mean, once. Why would you think about it? Your team's 11-2. Your quarterback's a front runner for MVP.

26:22calling, but he's definitely thought about it. He's getting asked about it after the game. Someone has said something. 100%. He might listen to this podcast. Big Cat, Lisa Salter is asking about it after the game. She said, you haven't thrown for 300 yards yet. What's up with that? Like, he knows. They talked about it on SportsCenter last night. Poured out of a PFT Hank troll. Yeah. He's not in the 300 club. Mookie Betts is in the 300 club. That's true. That's true. That guy on 9-11. Yeah. Osama. The other guy. Yeah. The guy in the bowling alley. Yeah. But no, a real good stat for the Patriots.

26:56They're the first team in NFL history with 10 straight games where they scored 23 points and allowing 23 or fewer points in a single season. They're dominating. It's pretty impressive. Now, could Drake be this good if his defense wasn't so great? We don't know the answer to that question. Yeah, it's a team game. But it's a question that you have to ask. Sure, I guess. Yeah. He had to ask it. I think he would be better. Statistically, he'd be better if his defense was worse and he had the ball more and was playing from behind. He would have better stats. That's not necessarily true. That's not necessarily true.

27:27Because they're still throwing the ball in the fourth quarter. And he also might feel more pressure like, oh, shit, I got to score on every possession. Also, what team was he on last year? Great question, Max. True. Checkmate. Got him. So really, I mean, yeah, I guess. He's just asking the question. Pretty good game. It's a fair question. From Drake. What are your bookmarks? I don't listen. I wasn't. I didn't. You said we sat down before we started recording. How do you get to your bookmarks? I said, uh-oh, Hank's been bookmarking. No, I was just. I don't bookmark. I bookmarked a couple things.

28:01But I was not planning on bringing him up unless it got ugly. And it has not got ugly. That was a good stat. That was a good stat. You want to get ugly? Yeah. Get ugly. Get ugly with me. No, I respond. I'm not. Yeah, get ugly with him. I fight back. Go with your bookmarks. I'm all love, all positive vibes. No naps. No naps. good vibes all love hey guys i mean they're calling him well there's two things about his nickname he's got two nicknames one the schedule i prefer that one the second drake drake may may they stole that from me okay i that was my day that was my nickname for john beck when he was the quarterback of the washington redskins who the fuck is john john beck he's john in 1942 he's John, John Beck, Beck.

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28:48Were you writing this in your school notebook? No, this was John Beck, baby. Who is John Beck? John Beck was a quarterback. When? He was like, I think Kyle Shanahan might have stood on the table. Early 2000s? I think the worst part about John Beck is I searched his name and another guy popped up. A different guy. Yeah, no, that's great. I mean, that is John Beck. You're right to forget John Beck. I only remember him because... You have to search John Beck football to get to John Beck. Yeah. Yeah, but you get to him. Because I would call him John, John Beck, Beck. So they call him Drake. Drake May.

29:22They call him Drake, Drake May, May. Shout out Drake May Lover. He played nine career games. Yep. Love that. Yep. He was great. I don't understand the Drake, Drake. I mean, guy's a legend. Because he doesn't have any other nickname. Well, he's an Instagram account, Drake May Lover, and he's everywhere. He comments everywhere on all types of pop culture, whatever, posts, and he just writes Drake May. That's it. Sounds like a bot. It's not a bot. It's a good guy. Is it you? No. What are your bookmarks? I wish. Guy's dedicated. Reveal your bookmarks. I only had one bookmark. It was just a Drake May stat.

29:58Again, it was only if things got ugly. I was not planning on bringing this up. Each of his last 10 starts, Drake May has passed for 200-plus yards, rushed for positive yardage, thrown no more than one interception, averaged eight yards per pass attempt to win the game, No quarterback in NFL history has done that in more than five consecutive starts. He's done it in ten. That's pretty damn good. That's pretty damn good. Rushed for positive yardage. That deep ball was nasty. Every game. Yeah. Yeah. No, listen. Drake May, he's having an awesome season. He's so accurate on his deep balls, too. It's kind of crazy.

30:30Great pocket presence, too. Yep. Steps up. Rushes when he needs to. Hits his targets. It's just beautiful to see. Did you know that when he has a child, he's going to name it Fox after Foxboro, Massachusetts? He said that? He did, according to my preferred breaking news source, which is New England Gridiron Pulse US. Fox May? It's a Facebook account that's run by somebody in Vietnam that just makes up stories. Got it. Yeah. How many dudes do you think in the last month since they started revealing that you can look at locations for Twitter? How many dudes realize that they've just been jerking off to pictures of accounts run by Indian dudes?

31:14A lot. Probably, yeah. I'm going to check those bookmarks out. Oh, shit. This is actually my second favorite post by them recently. They just claimed that Justin Jefferson has expressed a desire to be traded to the Patriots. I need a playing environment that truly demands and respects those who crave victory. Therefore, I only want to play for the Patriots. Justin Jefferson said that, according to this Vietnamese New England Patriots Facebook page. I love that. It's a great Facebook page. Okay, should we do hot seat, cool throne? I have a question for you, Max. Who the hell is Penn State going to hire as their head coach?

31:51I don't know. I hate our co-worker, Blutman. Why? He's told me 99.9 % chance of one thing like three times. Oh, no. He can't do that. He's getting in the breaking news day. I saw last night that Kalani Satake had a handshake agreement with Penn State, and then the crumble cookie guy came in. He is. He said that he had to insert himself into this. He's like, we can't lose great people. This is why I love this sport. I love America. We have competing. On one hand, you had Ole Miss lose their coach because our guy Todd Graves, chicken finger mogul, probably wrote a big check. And now you have at BYU the crumble cookie guy.

32:35So it's like, here's my, that's my music. I got to get in here. This is what he said. Some people are not replaceable. Sounds like it is time for me to get off the sidelines and get to work. It's great. Like this is exactly what college football should be. Yeah. So when it comes to the Penn state coaching search, I do have, I've got an update on their jet. Their jet had a flight that was scheduled to Columbus, Ohio from college, from a state college. Brian Hartline. Brian Hartline. That flight got changed. It got diverted because too many people were talking about it. Now they've got a flight to Lexington, Kentucky.

33:09Oh. Mark Stoops. Oh, my God. To Penn State. First hire of all time. Mark Stoops to Penn State. That's not going to happen. That is not going to happen. However, I did some more digging. You know who else lives in Lexington is Brian Hartline's brother, who's on that coaching staff. So they're going to get. So Brian Hartline's brother to Penn State. Brian Hartline's brother might be getting picked up as a stop by that jet. So both of them to Penn State? Both of them to Penn State. The Hartline. I'm saying Hartline, maybe not out of it. Sataki's a great coach. Yeah. I don't know anything about nothing, but I would like them to have some coach.

33:47Also, has anyone ever extended the interim? I would like them to have some coach. Have they ever extended the interim? It happens all the time. So we just do one more year of interim? I mean, that's how Coach O became the coach at LSU. Sherron Moore. That's how Pete Golding is the coach at Ole Miss. I mean, I guess he was kind of made permanent right away. But, yeah, that can absolutely happen. You can play your way into it. No, I'm saying, like, but keep – I want him to keep the interim. Oh, you want to keep him interim for an entire year. Oh, I don't think that's ever happened, but I like that.

34:17Yeah. I do like that. Are you expecting the next – like, next year's coaching availability is going to be better than this season's? It can't be worse. Every school had an opening this year. Yeah. Yeah, it is true. A lot of very good openings. James Madison. Yeah, Bob Chesney going to UCLA. Good for him. Yeah. Good for him. He got paid like$8 million, and now the sales pitch is pretty clear for JMU. It's like, do you want to work for two years and then 10x your salary? Future earnings. And get one of the highest paying jobs in the entire country. That's a pretty good sales pitch. I mean, I would like our offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator if they don't go to UCLA.

35:00But the guy from Navy, Kronik. I want Kronik in Harrisonburg. I know that he played receiver there a while ago. I don't know if he's interested in leaving Navy. But I'm just sure that there's – it's an attractive opening. It sucks being a stepping stone, but I live in reality, and I want to be the best stepping stone there is. Okay, let's do Hot Seat Cool Throne. It is brought to you by our friends at Twisted Tea. It's officially holiday season. Whether you're stocking up for holiday parties, hitting the hometown bars, or need a last-minute gift for that one ant you haven't seen since last Christmas, Twisted Tea is the way to go.

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36:10No, I did. No, it's a prey rhymes with. A prey ski rhymes with T. Yeah. A prey ski rhymes with T. Yeah. Yeah. Ski rhymes with T. I got it. Trying to stay warm at a late season tailgate. As you can sell, I'm not a big skier. It's also... I've never appraised skis. It's the morning, and we live on a no-naps policy. That is true. I did wake up Barstow this morning. Keep the teas cold so you aren't. So make sure to look for those yellow cans wherever you buy beer and give yourself the gift of Twisted Tea. This season, I love the original and the peach. If he likes a half and a half, Twisted Tea is the best.

36:47Hank, your hot seat, Cool Throne. my hot seat is lando norris okay wow do you remember f1 f1 yeah do you guys remember yeah do you remember f1 i stopped watching probably two years ago i was you know i was i was locked in the first three seasons of the drive to survive and then at one point i was following the season kind of week by week i just watching the races never really did it for me but you know i still got i still i still follow some accounts and this this season it's it's been down to the wire once danny ricardo got out yeah i lost interest this is this is an all-time all-time season i lost interest after i finished the first yeah the first iteration of whatever was drive to survive first two or three seasons were good it's just watching the races racing car racing is just never never kind of like soccer it's just never clicked for me i i suspect that the same people that pushed f1 on america are the same it's huge that it is it is massive like every every instagram posts is like millions and millions.

37:47It's like soccer where it's like globally massive. It's international, but I feel like it was pushed on us by people that ran a bunch of media companies that saw F1 being like the next big thing. We were complicit. It's like, well, I bowed out after about a week. Yeah, but I actually enjoyed doing the interviews. The interviews are fun. Interviewing race car drivers is kind of fun. When we do an entire year of podcasts, doing a couple is fun. But I couldn't watch. This is just a good sports story. Yeah, okay. Give it to us. Lando Norris. Oh, by the way, can I interrupt you for a sec? Yes. What's the Denny Hamlin thing?

38:25Why are they in court? Couldn't tell you. Zach, search it right now. I saw Michael Jordan and Denny Hamlin are in court. Against each other? No. I thought they were friends. Yeah. But I don't know why they're in court. I need someone to explain that to me. Go ahead, Hank. Lando Norris had a massive, massive lead. He was up 100 points at one point in the season. Verstappen was basically, he was like the Chiefs. He was more or less eliminated. He's had an all-time comeback. Finished first this week. Landon Orr has had a chance to, like, if he finished ahead of Verstappen, he would have clinched the title with one race to go.

39:00Finished third. Verstappen finished first. Has made a crazy comeback. He's 12 points back with one race to go, which basically is a one race. Oh, I might watch. Yeah. When is this? Probably Sunday morning, I think. Where? I don't know. Push, push. Abu Dhabi? I think it was just in Abu Dhabi. So it's got to be somewhere also out there. I'm in. It's literally like the one person you don't want behind you. Yeah, Abu Dhabi. Oh, it is Abu Dhabi. I'm a fucking race head. Yeah, part of the reason why I stopped watching this is that every single race was just Verstappen won. And he dominated seasons where it's like he won wire to wire.

39:43Yeah, right. This season, he had a worse car, which that part I never understand. It's like McLaren has the best car. He does not have a good car. He had a really, really bad start to the year, and he basically was in a spot where he has to win out, and he somehow has and has a chance to finish it off this Sunday. Why did he start driving a worse car? Because they do. It's regulations. From what I understand is every three years, they let you basically reconfigure your car, and whoever nails it, they have that car for a while. so like you get like one shot is that right memes you get like one chance to to perfect your car and if it's perfect you can't make like in-season drastic changes to your car i think so and then they also make like certain things illegal you can't do on certain cars i think that affected was a mclaren and they do like all the they do all the testing but then you could get into the season to be like fuck we're we have like a quarterback and wide receiver that just hate each other and like we can't complete a pass yeah it was explained to us by the coach yeah he got fired yeah yeah he was just fighting the regulations there was all they're always trying to get an edge so so wait what has to happen in in abu dhabi for the crazy result probably verstappen has to finish first yeah and lando norris has to finish outside the points I believe I don't know the points We're working our way through this Can't Max Verstappen's teammates just like Fuck up Lando Norris Can't he just be like You shall not pass Lando He could That's what I would do He could Oh so no he could finish first And Lando has to finish third or higher Yeah Wow So if Lando finishes second though He's fine Then he's fine.

41:36If he finishes third, he's fine. Oh. I thought you said third or higher. No. Yeah, he could finish third or higher. I thought you meant like. No, no, no. Third or higher. He's down 12 points and he can't. Yeah. So if he finishes third, he's fine. It'd be very funny if. That's all time sports pressure. That's great sports pressure, Hank. I like this. I'm going to not tune in, but I'm going to. You're going to follow the result. I'm going to. You're going to check on Sunday. Someone tweet me on Sunday morning and remind me that it's happening. and then I might turn on the TV for a second. If there was like a red zone for racing where it's just like the last lap, let me know when the last lap is happening.

42:13I'll tune in at the end. But yeah, it seems like, can you imagine if F1 had a college football playoff style committee that after the season was over, they just arbitrarily said what cars were the fastest and who got to advance in race? I mean, you talk about, they got Russian oligarchs. They got boosters on steroids. It'd be awesome. People would be dying. Yeah. Zach, what are you going to say, Max? Memes has such a clip brain. He found the clip of the coach talking about this. Oh, let's see, Memes. So this is Pardon My Take playing Pardon My Take. This is an exclusive report from Pardon My Take on an interview we've done that none of us could remember.

42:55Except for Memes because he has an absolute clip brain. I love this. When we break news to ourselves that we already broke news. Which coach was this? This was the Red Bull guy. Christian Horner. Oh, yeah. Christian Horner. Yeah. Married to Spice Girl. Jerry Hallwell. Yes. He got fired. Oh, I look fat. Oh, that was the tits interview. Those shirts are not good for me. I found that out after a couple interviews. Cannons. I was just fucking stuffed into that shirt. Probably not great chairs either. No. Okay. During the building of the car, you're like, this is, we have something that no one else is going to have going forward?

43:34Well, that's the thing. You just don't know. Really? And, you know, last year was a big reset, new regulations. We turn up at the first test. Everybody's car looks a bit different. And the Mercedes looked very different. And you think, have we missed something dramatic here? And then, of course, 22 was an incredible year for us. And then we've just taken all those learnings and applied it into this car. And, you know, the car was a little bit heavy last year. We got the car on the weight limit and that kind of stuff. and just evolved the theme. And we've been surprised that the others haven't been closer to us so far, but feel that that will come later in the year.

44:11Okay, so yeah. By the way, I remember that interview because it's similar to the Harbaugh. That was right before my daughter was born, so sympathy, wait. I get a pass. That was in a— The Harbaugh interview when my son was born, my first, all-time bad. Remember when we were at the golf club? Yeah, no, I'm just the weight part. Yeah, when you get sympathy weight. You weren't pregnant. No, I know, but you get sympathy weight because everyone kind of just gets weight. That's how it works, sympathy weight. How much weight per pregnancy? It's 20 to 30. You ever heard the term dad bod? Yeah. You get sympathy weight.

44:47You just start eating. That's what it means. Everyone in the house is eating. You're eating for two. Yeah, I was eating for three. The whole family had to make sure I was strong. but yeah no there's i mean there's there's heavy fluctuation okay so where where are we at i don't denny ham i gotta be honest don't don't really care who wins the f1 race unless something crazy happens in which case i'll think about it for like 30 seconds i'll be like damn that was crazy yeah that was wow do you want you know do you want the the guy that's dominated and already won like five times to win again i want land or do you want lando to you know i didn't like for staff hey could you ever see yourself rooting for a franchise that just dominated and won all the time and then when there was an upstart plucky team that was going against them you you would find yourself rooting against the underdog it it's case by case because i don't like it when they go wire to wire but i do like a story where it's like you know everyone counted him out and he's come all the way back like that's it's great sport that's big dog shit great sports uh zach why is denny hamlin in court uh denny hamlin and michael jordan have a a stock car racing team together 23xi they're in court over antitrust laws i've been trying to figure out what an antitrust law is uh it's not going the best but i what i can tell you is i think what i have come the small conclusion i've come to is like it's about like nascar's making too much of the money yeah i think it's like not the way they got it set up is like they're paying way too much up top yeah they own the tracks they own they won't let you do other races they're limiting the cars to like one size fits all they just want more money oh yeah it's like you guys are getting way too paid we're paying out way too much spider explained this to me a couple months ago and it has a lot to do with nascar owning the tracks that all the nascar events are at so they're saying it's a it's monopoly there's no room for competition if you're a track out there you can't get into the you can't break that glass ceiling to be a big boy you say they're doing it for like the smaller race teams to hopefully turn a profit.

46:45Yeah, you know what? I'm on Denny Hamlin's side. I'm all in for it. I am too. It's MJ and Denny Hamlin. Yeah, I don't know any of the facts. I'm just going to blindly say he should win in court. Apparently he was tearing up in court. Yeah. You know, getting real emotional, talking about the family and everything. Yeah, talking about his dad. That's what I saw this morning. Very powerful. Yeah. Okay, your cool throne? My cool throne, us, I guess the viewers, to listeners, maybe. Probably be a disaster, but it'll be funny. Dickie V and Charles Barkley are calling a first four NCAA tournament. Oh, hell yes.

47:21I love it. And a regular season game for ESPN. Wait, who's the play-by-play? I don't know. That's the hardest job. It's gotta be, what's his name? Pash, who used to do Bill Walton. Yeah, he's used to getting weird with it. Like, you can't. That's just an insane... I'm so excited. You need the straightest man to be the play-by-play guy. Yeah. Jake Marsh. Mm-hmm. Let's see. Dave O 'Brien. Okay. I think he's good. He's like a, no offense, Dave. I think he's just. Sounds like a. Yeah, Syracuse. Play-by-play guy. Play-by-play guy. This is great. This is a perfect way to get everybody to watch the first four.

47:58Yeah, there's Dave O 'Brien. Did you go to Syracuse? Tell me he went to Syracuse. Show us Syracuse. Syracuse. They're also doing Kentucky, Indiana, December 13th. Oh, so they're going to get a little warm-up. Yeah, warm-up. Hank, you don't know who this guy is? He does the Red Sox. Oh, yeah, sure. He is the lead play-by-play announcer for the New England Sports Network. Nesson. Okay. Hank's locked in. Not a regular season Red Sox guy. That's fine. Hank's staring at this. When did he start with Nesson? Good question. When did he start? He's probably pretty new. He probably just started. Scroll down.

48:48Let's see when he started. I know him now. Come on. Don't worry. It's just 2007. No, Hank. No, 2015 was when he started doing the... I'm looking right now. 2015. Okay. But you know what? For a guy like that... No, 2016. That was when he moved to New York. Yeah. For a guy like that, he's almost like an umpire. It's almost better when you don't know their names sometimes. Yeah. He is like, I said Syracuse. They're all the same. Yeah. It's just a perfect replacement. Okay. Oh, see, yeah. It's the shirt and the sympathy weight. What is that? Memes found the horrible one for the listeners. I look like a late stage Razor Ramon with that hair, too.

49:37What is going on? This looks like when we had to pick each other's outfits for Grit Week. No, I picked that myself. I got to be honest with you. Well, that was at a golf tournament. This is a BFT outfit. I got to be honest with you, Big Cat. I've worn that exact same outfit probably like 50 times in my life. I remember those shirts. I thought they looked good. And in hindsight, they were just like sausage cases. That is straight out of my closet. Okay. It looks good. BFT. This is like the same shirt. I know. It's the same brand. Listen, there's a reason why I wear black t-shirts now all the time.

50:12P.L.T., your hot seat, Cool Throne. My hot seat is Juice Kiffin. Yeah. Lane Kiffin's dog. Apparently, and this is according to the internet, Lane did not bring Juice Kiffin, his dog, with him to LSU. And the reason for that is Juice Kiffin might not have ever been Lane Kiffin's dog to begin with. Dang. It might have been a fake dog situation that they had. That he was an unofficial mascot of the university, and he belonged to a local kennel. But they put Kiffin's last name on the dog, and he acted like it was his dog. And it was never his dog to begin with. It's kind of crazy. That is kind of crazy.

50:52But they get Juice Kiffin in the breakup. They do get Juice Kiffin, but is Juice Kiffin going to change his last name? Is he going to be Juice Golden now? Yeah, he'll get yelled at. yeah and he shows up kiffin shows up he's got to pick sides i mean the way herb street defended lane kiffin has me wondering about peter and if his dogs actually belong to him or yeah their property of espn uh-oh how deep does this go how deep does this go this mess but yeah i i love i love all the messiness behind the breakups the jilted fans being like that wasn't even your fucking dog dude uh so yeah i it would have been funny if lane kiffin had just taking juice with him yeah he's been like yeah that's my dog this is i'm taking him yeah does the dog like does the dog come with the job is that one of the perks i think it has to yeah the next the next coach of old miss p golding should get it should be juice golden juice golding i i actually do believe that mike the tiger belonged to coach o though when he was there yeah no that's i think that's a louisiana law also coach o might be back which is gonna be awesome he looks good and well well it just lane's gonna hire him yeah which i don't know if i was wondering this coach oh has one more payment from lsu i think december 15th if lane hires him let's say tomorrow is there offset language that lsu has to pay him half a month no doesn't have to pay the the rest of the buyout because he got a job at lsu Possibly.

52:24I could see Coach O going back to LSU. No, I'm saying. 100%. No, he is. I'm saying he almost, like, he definitely is going to. Is that, like, actually confirmed? No, but the way that Lane Kiffin was talking, I mean, Lane Kiffin was smart in his press conference. Instead of doing the Brian Kelly and trying to put on a Southern accent, he just invoked Coach O. He's like, I called O. And then he did the Southern accent copying O. But yeah, I think there's a high chance that he puts Coach O on his staff. They can make anything work in Louisiana. They don't give a fuck. The governor of Louisiana. Also, Scott Woodward, the guy who fired Coach O, is gone.

53:02Yeah, he's gone. So why not? And gone unceremoniously. And why wouldn't you want Coach O on the LSU staff? You want him back. It's also like a great, if you're an LSU fan, you want it. Because if Lane Kiffin decides to leave you, you have your interim. I don't think Lane Kiffin would ever leave Nah This is the one destination for him I think that There's been a lot of reporting over the last couple weeks That was dismissed as fake news That now I'm going back at and looking at And believing all of it There was a report that the governor of Louisiana Like two weeks ago Had a two hour long meeting with Lane Kiffin And then that report was denied I believe I think the governor actually sealed the deal for Lane I think that that's how deep the LSU ties go in Louisiana where the governor was actually leading the entire coaching search.

53:51Yeah, and also, as you see, there was a report that part of the reason why he picked LSU was he had a meeting with the AD of Florida, and apparently the Florida AD gave Lane Kiffin weird vibes, which is very funny because Lane Kiffin, like, again, I like him. I think he's great for the sport. He's been on the show a couple times. Lane Kiffin also does do weird vibes, so they just did weird vibes off. You know what? They just didn't vibe. Yeah. They just didn't vibe. And then there's another report that Lane Kiffin now is going to get postseason bonuses. Yes. For how Ole Miss does in the playoffs.

54:24So because he left before the end of the season, he had bonuses in his contract. I think it was like$250 ,000 if they made the playoff. Yep. Up to, I forget, was it$2 million if they won? He's basically getting a bonus bet on LSU Moneyline. Or Ole Miss Moneyline. Ole Miss Moneyline. Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin might even hit up some of the coaches at Ole Miss and just give them some ideas for how to win the game. He's like, listen, man, I'm tied into this, too. Please win for me. Yeah. He also looks tanner. He looks way tanner. I feel like there was maybe a tanning bed on that jet that he took down to Baton Rouge.

54:55He looks skinny. He does. He did. The other thing that's happening is the story about how Lane Kiffin got his starting coaching has gone re-viral. Do you remember that story? The David Carr. So Lane Kiffin was a backup at Fresno, and David Carr was a starter, and Lane Kiffin came out for practice one day and he didn't have uh anything like on like he had he had like shorts on and he wasn't ready to practice and the coach was like what are you doing he's like well you're not gonna give me any snaps so i'm not gonna be like dressed to practice and he kicked him off the field and then when he went back into the locker room the coach called monty kiffin and monty kiffin lane's dad was like you're not quitting and lane was like fine i guess i'll just coach and just put on a polo and came back out on the practice and that was it that was the start of his coaching career that's awesome yeah he's like money given us like you're not quitting the team he's like well i guess i'll just coach yeah that's awesome boom good way to start yeah uh my cool throne is philly fans max accountability on the cool throne philly fans obviously not happy with the performance of kevin patulo disavow disavow they egged his house they egg kevin matulo's house to show their displeasure they wait i mean at least it's not batteries right nah that's fucked up that's fucked up i don't like when it when you can talk as much shit as you want you know at the field and the tail in the tailgate online but i you shouldn't get to the family home can't get to the family home not to the family home do you have any any suspects probably the guys i was sitting at in my section yeah i mean getting names i got no names listen diana rossini said this morning on wake up bar so that philly has very smart football fans named me personally personally named me personally and that's why you boo because we know you know yeah we know you know it should stop at the booze though no eggs it It can stay on the Sports Talk Radio.

56:59It can stay at the stadium. It can stay on Twitter. You can't go to the home. What about booing if you see him on the street? Depends. Like walking in the neighborhood? Walking in the neighborhood? No, but like walking to the stadium, yes. Okay. Walking to the stadium. On Eagles property? Yeah, on Eagles property. Okay. If he's wearing Eagles gear?

57:26I'm still going to say no What about appropriate distance Family time What if he's walking into the stadium And he's got his kids with him Don't bring your kids Oh that's so he asked It's on him What's the proper distance to boo him in person You gotta be at the stadium No no but like say you see him walking In South Philly Are we keeping 10 feet? I think you gotta keep like 10-15 feet to boo Cause you don't wanna be No you don't wanna get in his face No longer than I'm trying to Unless it's like in passing You know like you're passing one way And you just boo Keep it going Or you just hit him out of the side of your mouth Like boo Hey coach Boo's gotta stay at the stadium But if he's walking into the stadium If he's walking into the stadium it's okay What if you see him at the supermarket?

58:23No, no booze at the supermarket. No booze, but can you walk past him and just do a thumbs down?

58:31Thumbs down. One thumbs down. The thumbs down is really good. What if you're driving through Philadelphia and you pull up to a red light and you look to your right and you just see that he happens to be stopped right to your right? Is there dice in your mirror? And is windows down? No, you got to have the ball. If you have the ball sack coming off the back of the pickup truck. Okay, if you have truck nuts. Then that's just expected. Do you have any questions regarding the security around Kevin Petulo, Hank? No, I think he's fine. Private life's gotta be private life Private life's gotta be private life Do you think that there's any way that they could Protect him?

59:08I mean the people that threw those eggs are probably gonna End up at the bottom of a river They should know that This problem can be solved With a lawn chair and Big Dom Just sitting in the front yard Yes it will be It will be taken care of It will be taken care of Don't throw eggs Don't go to people's houses. Don't go to people's houses. That's really. It's kind of weird. Yeah, because when we say don't throw eggs, that means that we're kind of implying like, oh, yeah, it's great to drive. Don't go to his house. You shouldn't know where your coaches live. You shouldn't. That means you actively looked for it.

59:46How did that get out? Yeah. And also you were looking for it. And that means it's probably somebody in the neighborhood. I would imagine they live in a nice house in Philly. Yeah. So it's a neighbor that probably also owns a nice house. like a millionaire in Philadelphia went to the store, bought eggs and then went to Kevin Petulo's house to egg it. Are you, you're looking up the Don LaGreca rant. One of my favorites. Boo him at the mall. He said, what was it? Evan Neal said that the flip play, play just a little bit of it. It's so good. Boo him everywhere. Do we know where AJ Brown was at this time?

1:00:22All right. Here's, here's the Don LaGreca from a couple of years ago, talking about Evan Neal after he made fun of the fans. Flip hot dogs and hamburgers somewhere? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? I'd cut his ass. I would. How dare you? How dare you? These people pay your salary? They pay an obnoxious amount of money to park, an obnoxious amount of money for PSLs to sit there and watch this pap, and you call them hamburger flippers? What, you're so much better? I'd rather have a guy that's flipping hamburgers block than your piece of garbage ass who the hell are you to talk to fans like that you piece of garbage I hate when players do that you're not above us what because you happen to play a sport you make them you're better than me you're better than the people that pay your salary these giant fans were here before you and they'll be here after your sorry ass is cut what a piece of human trash.

1:01:24And I don't want to hear some apology. I don't want to hear oh, I was taken out of contact. I don't want to hear done. Done. I would cut his fat ass. Oh, if I'm John Mara, I'd call him into the office and say you were a first round pick, but you're not worth anything. You don't talk to our fans that way. You don't talk to me that way. You are out of a job. You should boo him. You should see him in the mall in Willowbrook. Boo his ass. If you see him on the DMV, boo him. Don't stop booing him. If he goes to the Pro Bowl, boo him. If he wins a Super Bowl, boo his sorry ass. If he goes to the Mall of Willowbrook, boo him.

1:02:09Yeah, Petulo hasn't said anything like that about the fans. No, we've got to keep it professional. We've got to keep it professional. About job performance. It's got to be a final statement. It's only at the link. Only at the link. Maybe the NovaCare, the practice complex. But that's it. It's got to be on Eagles grounds for booing. You can't. No personal booze. No personal booze. Family stuff. All right. Cool, Tron. I think that was my accountability. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. My hot seat is Mike Tomlin and the Steelers because I actually think that he might. This might be it. I don't know who's going to break up with who, though.

1:02:45I don't know. The Roonies don't feel like breaking up with coaches ever. They've had three coaches since like Vietnam. Yeah. And Mike Tomlin, he can't be happy. Like, the last, what, 10 years, no playoff wins? Yeah. Tomlin's probably not happy with the situation either. He doesn't seem to be trying to do anything different to change it. And it's the same thing every single year. So I saw this stat from Ben Solick. He said, the Steelers haven't completed a downfield pass in 36 days. They're 0 for 13, three interceptions last five games combined on 20-plus air yard passes. They just can't. Their whole offense stinks.

1:03:29Their defense is the most expensive, and it stinks. I think you just have to get rid of them. I don't think they completed a pass over 20 air yards in the entire month of November. Yeah, 36 days. And Jameis at one point had, I think, four of those passes in a single game. Yeah. And it just the offense is completely broken. Tomlin is not having fun. The fans aren't having fun. That's what I'm saying. I do think that I think the Maris could be convinced to like they crave the silent authoritative leadership and stability of nine and eight seasons in New York. I could see I could see the Giants trying to get I Rex Ryan was saying on on get up that he would get a job in two seconds.

1:04:14I don't know if he would anymore. I think he would get another job. I think he might have to take a year off. If it was – Like, it's been that bad where it's just the same football over and over and over and over, and they don't change anything. And it's – I mean, TJ Watts said it. I think the Bills ran the same play 27 times on Sunday. That's insane. Yeah. It's bad. It's bad. But it feels like this is finally – because we've been in this spot before where people will have murmurs about Mike Tomlin. And I guess, yeah, you should probably just bet the Steelers this weekend because this is when he wins.

1:04:46And if he beats the Ravens, then everybody, like, the ownership's going to be happy. Yeah. If they make the playoffs, the ownership's going to be happy. Yeah. But yeah, it should be, I don't even know who should break up with who at this point. No, I don't either. I think he should just stop coming to work after the season's over. Yeah. We both know that it's time. And then my cool throw is LeBron, because congratulations to LeBron. He kept his streak alive of scoring 10 games, which is a totally made-up streak that he cares a lot about because he scored his 10th point when they were down like 22 to the Suns in the fourth quarter.

1:05:20And then subbed himself out immediately. He had four points in the first half, I think. Also, the streak does not count postseason games because if it did, Jordan would have the streak, but whatever. It counts only regular season because LeBron did score eight points. Can we just admit that LeBron's in his stat padding time? It's fine. I'm not trying to be a hater. I am a hater, but I'm not trying to be a hater in this moment. It's okay to just be like when everyone says longevity and all this stuff, he's just stat padding the rest of the season. Yeah. Probably next season. Yeah. Luke's trying to golf.

1:05:51He's moved on from basketball. Golf? Yeah, he's going to golf. He is. Like that's the first sign. But being like I have to score 10 points every game is, I don't know. It's weird. So if you get really into golf while you're still working at your current job, that's the first sign that you're checked out. Yeah. Big time. No naps. No naps. No naps. No naps. No, I would say that if you get really into watching golf on YouTube, he's probably checking his phone during games. Yeah. Let's see what the Bob Dubs guys are up to this week. Oh, Bob Dubs is playing Max Homa again? This is fucking sick. I actually am excited for that.

1:06:31No, Bob did tweet out that they're doing a Jon Rahm and a Max Homa this week. LeBron probably excited. I'm speaking from actual facts. I am excited for those. I bet you LeBron is too. So LeBron's going to watch Max Homo play golf. Yeah. That's a lot of pressure on Max Homo. Max, we miss you. I do miss having Max on the show. We should get him back. We should have him on. I hit him up. He actually was – he texted me on Sunday. Yeah. About the Bears. Or no, Friday about the Bears. I heard from him last week as well. We're going to – we should try to do a video with him. Let's do it. When we're going to be in Scottsdale.

1:07:07I don't have to twist your arm. Zach. Hot seat, Kulteron. My hot seat this week. I'm going to try to, moving forward, not bring this up anymore, but I would just like to say a lot of the blob doubters need to understand that we're in trouble. Have you guys seen what's going on? I'm not doubting anymore. You were right. The blob is going to fuck us up. It's going to fuck up the whole country. Yeah, Big Hat. We are, Earth could be finished. We could be done. I saw it, but I actually, does anyone else do this where, if it's going to be a bad winter i'm just i saw like these models and people saying that i think the northeast and the south is getting some snow and like having as long as everyone's in it together texas you're getting snow i'm good i'm good with it tallahassee panhandle snow get ready if you can't pick a spot on the map that outside of southern california that's good it's like all right fine it all sucks for everyone is the blob here the blob are we currently in the blob blob's here to stay, I think the blob is going to continue to be a fixture of our lives.

1:08:06500 flights canceled recently. We're at 10 inches of snow for the year. We're at like 17 inches of snow for the entire last year. Yeah. Last year was easy. We're already at 10. Last year was easy. But guess what? Here's how you got to think about it. It's the winter. This one's going to suck. But then comparatively, next year is going to be a breeze. There's a world the blob never goes away. Oh my God. So permanent. Now I'm out. Now you're being a little dramatic. I feel bad for Zach obviously because It is his first winter, but I also think it's like if it was last winter, Zach would have been like, winter sucks.

1:08:34Yeah, but winter was easy last winter. It's still winter. Yeah, it was. There was that like two-week stretch. December was easy, and there was no snow. And it was money by St. Patrick's Day last year. So, Zach, what I'm saying is this actually is a good – you've got to think about the optimistic view of this. This is actually a great thing for you because this is your first winter of your entire life. it's going to be bad but then every winter after that's going to be easy unless the blob never goes away unless the blob never goes away the warm blob right now is over the Pacific yeah and then it pushes so Pacific is having like a permanent summer right now I don't I think it's pushing the cold air down we don't I don't know let's not make assumptions we're doing weather patterns there's a warm blob that's like just posted up over Hawaii It took us 20 minutes to get to the bottom of an F1 race.

1:09:31Now we're going to do... We can't do meteorology on this show. This is not a meteorology show. If I had to take an educated guess that's not educated, I think there's probably warm air sitting over the Pacific that then pushes the cold air from Canada further down. That was a greatly educated guess. Is that right? I think that's pretty close to what Blob's got going on. I do want to say, you're right, I was being dramatic there. Blob will go away, but it's sinking its toes right now. Listen, you got video games? We got the game, but I'm just thinking like outages. The amount of snow. But the other thing is you didn't.

1:10:06I actually am not going to hear any complaints from you because I'm remembering now that in the summer on Sundays when we come in and I'd ask what you did this weekend. And I would ask if you had gone outside, you'd say no. Oh, I'm talking safety. Your life is not changing at all. You're kind of built for the block. Yeah. I remember specifically a beautiful 80-degree weekend in August, and I was like, holy shit, what perfect weather. And you were like, yeah, I didn't go outside. Those are 100 % facts, and I'm not going to dispute that. I'm speaking for more of a safety POV. We'll be safe. You're going to be safe.

1:10:44You're going to be safe. You're going to be outside for a total of 20 minutes in December and January combined. Which, again, is no different than July. Is this going to be an extended? What was that? Is this going to be like an extended blob situation? Like, is the winter going to be longer or just worse? I think it's just going to be colder and more snow. I don't mind the snow. It feels as if the seasons keep getting pushed back a little bit. You know how we crept into winter later? No, because we got snow in November. We had a great fall, though. Incredible fall. What if Hank's never able to play golf again, and he's just really good left-handed, and he can never play on a course?

1:11:22Damn. We'll be back. How's the left symbol going? Day two. It's going okay. How was day one? It was all right. It was a grind. Just trying to build on the fundamentals. Find something consistent. You didn't take a single swing ready? Nope. Are you a cool throw on? My cool throw this week is going to be Playboy Cardi. He's the latest person to receive a Fortnite icon skin because we got Chapter 7 Season 1 dropping. You guys see any clips from Chapter 7 Season 1? No battle bus. I have not. Battle Bus, you can drive the reboot vans. I don't know what we're talking about now. Battle Bus blew up. Tomato Town back.

1:11:58Don't know any of those words. Surfing in. You just surf in. No more Battle Bus. Tilted. Good question. Not back. Out. Don't understand anything that's happening right now. Nope. And I'm kind of scared. I never played Fortnite, but if Tilted's not in, I'm definitely not playing. College Fortnite was elite. Get an icon skin. You get to represent your IRL self in game self. Oh, okay. I think you guys would make great icon skins. You guys had icon skins in college football. Right. Didn't they? You did. Yeah. Right. So this is Fortnite. Fortnite is the game where you compete and one person wins. Battle Royale.

1:12:42It depends if you're doing duos or squads, then your team wins. You got to think about duos. Who's the best here? Is the gold scar back? I would assume, Zach. Oh, we can't make any assumptions. When was the last time you played football? I never claimed to be good at any games. I just play a lot of games. What's your KD? Oh, I don't check KD right now because we're camo grinding. Right, gotcha. Got it. Yep. Makes sense. Okay, let's get to our interview with Brandon Walker. We're going to talk all things college football, playoff, coaching carousel, everything. Before we do that, a couple ads. Before we get to Brandon Walker, he's brought to you by Chevy.

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1:15:14But I won the award, and the next time I was on the show, he was still here. So that didn't seem like an award at all. Well, I thought that you would want to gloat and to show him dominance face-to-face. Probably your last time because you are going to lose this year. I'm going to lose this year, which shows you what a messed up year it was in college football. Well, not really. None of you picked – you went 12 deep? Yeah, none of us picked Indiana. Indiana, who's the current two seed. You also are going to lose it because you gave a guarantee over this past week, and it turned to be wrong. So you guaranteed that Lane Kiffin was going to stay at Ole Miss.

1:15:52How did Brandon Walker get this so wrong?

1:15:59This is tough. You didn't tell me you were going to do this. Yeah, I did not tell you I was going to do this. I did not tell you.

1:16:08Well, my credibility means a lot to me in the college football space. And I believe from the sources that I was hearing was Lane Kiffin loved Oxford and he thought it was the best place on earth and he would never leave anywhere. Because Lane Kiffin himself said, I'm not going anywhere just for the money. It turns out he went somewhere that gave him the biggest offer of money. And I felt in my heart that he was going to stay in Oxford. I think college football would have been better if he stayed at Ole Miss because that's just such a great place. And I am heartbroken that he decided to leave those douchebags.

1:16:35Yeah. Brandon, a quick follow-up here. You said, yeah, PFT Commenter, part of my Tick Podcast. Sure. You said that he didn't leave for the money, but then he actually did leave for the money. I heard Lane Kiffin say in his press conference yesterday at LSU that he actually didn't know how much the schools were offering him. He told his agent, Jimmy Sexton, this is not about the money. Yeah. It was like a blind mystery box. It was like deal or no deal. Yeah. And he had no idea if they were even going to pay him. So at this point, why are we holding Lane Kiffin press conferences? Who's believing a word he says?

1:17:07Who's believing a word this guy says? He said, I'm not leaving for the money. I'm immediately left for the money. He says, my heart's here. He said, this is my dog. It's not his dog. Everything he said ended up being wrong. We already talked about the dog earlier in the show, so we're not going to talk about the dog anymore. The dog thing is the most important thing in college football right now. It wasn't his dog. It's not his dog. All right, so here's my question for you. We're actually looking at the updated standings, and Brandon only has Texas. Texas, Notre Dame, who both might not get in, and Oregon left.

1:17:35Oregon's going to be in. Oregon will be in. And I think you're mathematically eliminated. Yeah, I think I'm done. Okay, so. How did you get this so wrong? Can I have the leftover teams? I think if I took all the leftover teams that aren't listed at all. I'll give you Indiana. I think I still would lose. To make it competitive. No, Max. And Tom, here's the thing. Tom is blowing me out. Tom didn't do good either. No, he did very well. He did way much better than me. Ohio State. He got four. He got Tulane. Texas. I think Alabama could. Texas Tech with the last pick. Bama could be green, right? Bama could be green.

1:18:05Miami could be green. Yeah, he might do okay. Okay, so. And Tulane. Actually, is that Tulane? Yeah. Okay. So, Brandon, I want to talk about the college football playoff, but before we do that, I want to talk about Lane for a couple more seconds here. Sure. Do you like Lane Kiffin? Because I love Lane Kiffin, and here's why I love Lane Kiffin. He's Lane Kiffin. Yeah. Nothing that he does, like when people are shocked by Lane Kiffin, It's like, well, dude, he's Lane Kiffin. He's been the same guy his entire career. How anyone – like even this morning I was on Wake Up Barstool and I asked T-Bob the simple question, do you think that Lane Kiffin found his forever home?

1:18:47And he does. And I'm like, you're a moron. He's an idiot. Lane Kiffin will be at LSU. Lane Kiffin's a really good coach. He might win a national title. He'll leave. Right. He's going to leave for the Dolphins job or the Bills job. He's going to leave for an NFL job in four years. It's going to be hilarious when he does. Four years. Of the top ten exits, most incredible exits in college football history, Lane Kiffin's got three of them. Yeah. He's got the Tarmac. He's got – well, I know this is NFL. He's got the PowerPoint presentation with Al Davis. He's got – Knoxville riots. He's got the Knoxville riots.

1:19:18And now he has stringing Ole Miss along for weeks and weeks and weeks saying all these things. and then they're immediately going to LSU and trying to hold his team hostage. And LSU and Ole Miss are rivals. They're rivals, yeah. They're secondary rivals. They hate each other. Yeah, they hate each other. They're secondary rivals for Ole Miss, but they are rivals. I've heard that some Ole Miss fans hate LSU more than the Mississippi State. Well, they're lying. That's what I heard. You can't believe an Ole Miss fan at all. They're lying pieces of shit. They lie all the time. They're a fake university.

1:19:46They fake the dog. That's what I heard. I heard some Ole Miss fans hate LSU. They're lying to try to make themselves look superior. No, after all this happens, you better believe that's the rivalry. Now it's a big-time rivalry, yeah. Now it's even bigger than it was. It is gigantic. So who is your rival because you don't have one? Ours is Ole Miss. Don't do this shit. Don't do this dumb shit. I haven't seen it, but Lane Kiffin, you kind of like him. If he wasn't coaching Ole Miss, I think you'd kind of like him because my whole thesis with Lane Kiffin is guys like this make sports, especially college football, more entertaining.

1:20:21So there it is. This is the most college football thing of all time. We love it too much. We're too passionate about it. We believe when a coach comes to our school and wins, he not only is winning for our school, he loves our school. He is now home. We're his family. And now we're going to embrace his family like our own, and we're going to do all these things. He's just a guy doing a job. That's what he is. And he just took – all he did was take another job. And he took what he considered a better job. But it is absolute knife-in-the-heart betrayal to Ole Miss fans that this family member, this man that we have worshipped for six years would turn his back on us.

1:20:54The man just took a better job. And to your question, do I like Lane Kiffin? I like what he just did to Ole Miss, and I think college football is a better place when you have wild cards like Lane Kiffin. And I think he is a top probably five coach in this country. I think he's an elite coach. I don't know if he's an elite human being, but that's what makes him even more appealing. Yeah, I mean, that's so subjective too. None of these guys are. You've got to be an asshole to win to the highest level. Who's an elite human being? It's like when you have a quarter. Who cares if they are? Like a professional athlete or a high-level coach, they should not have any perspective whatsoever.

1:21:29They're psychopaths. Yeah. They think about like two things. One is football, and sometimes the other is where the hoes at. So I never had – I've had to hide my – I've never had a texting relationship with Lane. I don't have his phone number or anything. But I've had to hide my DMs with him over the last few years where I would say – I would send him a little jab. He sent me a little jab. He sent me a scoreboard. He sent me the SEC standings. But I do like that he exists. And I love that he absolutely made Ole Miss fans feel terrible. But I'll also say, as much as I'm defending Lane Kiffin here, I have no problem with Ole Miss fans being as upset as they are because they feel like it's the fact that it's a playoff game.

1:22:09Here's the thing. It's the playoff game. And this guy, listen, shout out Ben Garrett for on three. He had the exact right line. You cannot turn a hoe into a housewife. And when Ole Miss hired Lane Kiffin, Lane Kiffin was Lane Kiffin then. And they knew Lane Kiffin was Lane Kiffin. For six years, they amassed it and they covered it. And they had ESPN do these documentaries about how he's a changed man, how he loves Oxford. Then he's changed, he's matured. And boom, they turn on him. Or he turns on them, they turn on him, and it's all out there. But it's the playoff game. If they weren't in the playoffs, I think this would not have anywhere near the bad blood that it has.

1:22:43I think it was always going to end poorly. poorly but like you if you're a fan of old miss like you have every right to be like are you fucking serious you have a chance to win a national title this year i think lane knows he doesn't have a chance to win a national title and that's why he's leaving i think he knows he doesn't have a national title if he thought he had a national title team he would try to win it do you think they should have let him coach the egg bowl because that was where like that's the only thing old miss screwed up in my mind is if lane had said he was going to old lsu a couple weeks ago she's like all right go i am see ya i am of the belief they knew 10 days ago right 10 days ago they announced the day after the Egg Bowl, we're going to announce something on his future.

1:23:16They knew then. They chose to let him coach the Egg Bowl to make sure they get that win, to make sure whatever. Maybe they thought in that 10-day interim they could convince him to stay, but in that 10 days Alex Golish went off the market. John Summerall went off the market. All the other coaches they could have gotten. I know John Summerall and Alex Golish would have taken that job. Mincy was trying to get John Summerall. He was. He emptied the clip. All those guys and ended up having to hire their defensive coordinator, Pete Golden. So what about the clause in the contract where Lane Kiffin is now getting paid his bonuses that Ole Miss would have paid them?

1:23:49I think this is the weirdest thing I've ever seen in COVID. I love it. It's gambling. It's free bets. The LSU Tigers are going to pay Lane Kiffin$1 million if Ole Miss wins the national title. What a stupid fucking sport. Yeah. What a stupid sport. Can you imagine the Yankees hiring the Dodgers manager and saying if the Dodgers won the World Series, we're going to give you$1 million? Yeah. No, you can't. It's crazy. It's absolutely nuts. Do you think that Lane is going to be actively rooting for Ole Miss? Yes. At least for a win. I guess for the million dollars, maybe. No, I'm saying the totality of the situation.

1:24:23I think he's rooting for them to lose as soon as possible so he can go get his players. I think he's rooting for that season to end as quick as possible, and he's going to end the postgame. Text messages are going to start lighting up in that locker room. That's what I think. Is he allowed to post the Trinidad flag emoji, or is that tampering? Trinidad's a country, is it not? It is, yeah. He can support any country he wants. Why can't he support Trinidad and Tobago? Thank you for remembering the Tobago. I think he's just supporting the Trinidad part of it. I'm not sure. I mean, he put the Trinidad flag out.

1:24:54That seems like he's a man of the world, a worldly man. You love Lane Kiffin. I love what Lane Kiffin has become. Lane Kiffin has become a means to an end for me, and it has been delicious. Last Lane Kiffin question for me. what is the bare minimum for the bar for success at LSU? Let's say the next four years. I think it's a national title. It has to be. So they get to a national championship, don't win it, bust. With Brian Kelly, he never got past 9-3, 8-4. I think if he threw a 10-2 in there, he would probably still be safe. Maybe an 11-1. But Lane Kiffin at Ole Miss, a tougher job to win at, has won 10 games in a regular season four times.

1:25:36He's proven he can do it in the SEC. Brian Kelly had never proven he could do it in the SEC. When he got here, there was such a clash of cultures and he was just fighting from behind all the time. Frankly, the difference in him winning 9 and 10 games a couple of those years was he had to play Lane Kiffin's Ole Miss and Lane got him. Now Lane's going to be playing Pete Golding's Ole Miss. I think Lane's going to get them. I think he's going to raise the bar a little bit at LSU, but if in four years you haven't won a national title for a program that has won three national titles in the last two decades with three different coaches, Frankly, only one of them probably as good as Lane.

1:26:08I think that's reasonable expectation. Can I just real quick? Yep. I love Lane Kiffin. Yeah, you do. I know you do. Lane Kiffin is the fucking best. He's a great story. He faked that dog, though. He did fake. Well, the dog exists. The dog's real. It just never belonged to him. Yeah. But we already talked about it, so we can't talk about it anymore. Taking the best story. Okay. How big of a disaster? Just handcuff me right now. How big of a disaster is the Penn State coaching search right now? It is a disaster. They were the first ones to the buffet line. They cut bait early on James Franklin. He went 11-1, 10-2, 11-1, 10-2 every single year.

1:26:42And the second he lost a couple of games he wasn't supposed to lose, they said, nope, we're Penn State. We're better than this. And now they watch LSU go hire Lane Kiffin. They watch all these SEC jobs open and fill in front of them. And Kurt Signetti, he's not trying to coach. Mike Yelko's not coming. So now they're down 15, 16, 20 coaches deep in this search. and they've got nothing. Signing day's tomorrow. I don't think you just do the interim. Max had the best idea. Was it Terry Smith? Terry Smith, yep. Terry Smith, hire him as the interim. But that's a band-aid on a waterfall. No, no, no.

1:27:19Hire him. Don't take the interim off. Just go a full year interim. Year and a half interim. Go to the first buffet next year. Yeah, right. They didn't do anything with their buffet line this year. So what you're telling me is... You're staying at the buffet because you have an interim. If I had sat there in September and said, yeah, Penn State, you're firing James Franklin this weekend so that you may hire a new coach in 16 months? I would have said, yeah, interim Terry. You're at the buffet line. Max, that's such a coach. You never leave the buffet line. Brandon, you've definitely done this move.

1:27:53You've gone to Bob Evans or to Golden Corral, and you've gone up to the buffet and you've had your plate, and you just eat off your plate while you're standing next to the buffet? So I have not at a Bob Evans. I've only eaten at a Bob Evans once. It was in Lexington, Kentucky in 2014, and I thought Bob Evans was a nice restaurant. And I tried to call and make a reservation for it. I was like, I'm going to Lexington for the first time. Let me Google restaurants. I saw Bob Evans. I'm going to check it out. And then I got in there. I was like, okay, well, this is just a Shoney's with a different name.

1:28:19But yeah, I've pulled some tricks at buffet lines. I always do that. With a calendar the way it is. I just go to the Pizza Hut buffet every day after school for lunch. Pizza Hut buffet. The best. And I knew what time they would put pizzas out, usually about 1101 or something like that. If they didn't have it by 1101, I'm standing at the buffet waiting for them. My hometown growing up had a McDonald's breakfast buffet. That's crazy. You could go to it. They had the hotcakes, the sausages, the eggs. They had the Egg McMuffins that you could just get unlimited of. My town had a KFC buffet. That's pretty good.

1:28:46That's pretty awesome. The buffet move that PFT described is I've done that every single time I've ever been in a buffet. Why wouldn't you? You put the food on your plate, and then you just eat off the plate as you go Because you say to yourself, oh, I want a slice of pizza, but I really want the Chinese. So I'm going to eat the slice of pizza while I walk to the Chinese. Well, let me ask you this, because this is, I think, the fattest move I've ever pulled to a buffet. You go through the line. You make your plate. Casino buffets, especially, because you almost never know what's coming. You just keep going around.

1:29:10Whoa, whoa, whoa. Rookie. No, I'm not a rookie. Yeah. Okay. That was a rookie move. Anyway, fine, fine, fine. You know what's coming because you do an entire pass-through where you have a little bit, but not a full plate. This is my fat move. I go in. I see that. Good. Good. Fill it up. Fill it up. Fill it up. Fill it up. Plate's full. I walk to the table. I put my plate down. I go back. Second plate. Double plate, yeah. Yeah, double plate. Well, you're describing, you did your reconnaissance move as you were eating. I go literally plate in hand, reconnaissance, where I'm not filling up. See, I can't do that.

1:29:41I'm just taking pieces to eat, and then I go back to it. I can't do that. The second I get into that buffet restaurant, I have to get to the buffet and start getting things on the plate. But I'm getting to the buffet. No, but you're looking. No, no, no. I'm looking and eating. You're reconnaissance, though. I'm reconnaissance, but I'm also eating. Okay. I'm just not. I go. My reconnaissance. So you're taking eating soup. I start at the front of the buffet, and I have a plate that's empty, and I will go through the entire buffet, and I'll start back at the front, and my plate will still be empty, but I've already eaten.

1:30:11Does that make sense? I see. I see. Yeah. Okay. I've already had like half a plate. You've had like three strips of bacon. But as I walk. Okay. Yeah, exactly. You've had some tater tots. Correct. Correct. But there's nothing to show for it. Pinsate. It's great. Yeah. disaster. They've got National Signing Day. They don't have a coach. Jay Franklin's getting all their recruits. He's getting all their recruits. Everyone's going down to Virginia Tech right now. How bad of a sign is it for Texas A &M that Elko kicked the tires? I don't think it's a terrific sign that he didn't go. Penn State, to me, is pretty easily a top 10 to 12 job nationally.

1:30:47I think it's the number three job in the Big Ten. I disagree. Okay. Tell me who. Ohio State, Michigan, and what? USC. Argument could be made. And Oregon as well. Oregon as well. Okay. But it's in that conversation. You would agree it's in that conversation. It's in the second tier of the Big Ten firmly. If I'm Mike Elko and I really had no ties to Texas A &M before I – or really no – I know he'd been there before, but really no ties to A &M before he ever coached there, and I had Pennsylvania ties, which I believe that he does have, that's something you that's conversation you have if i'm a &m and my coach goes out talks to penn state comes back and signs with me i feel really good so he just he clearly just did it for the race he was playing the game listen i i think that in this in this crazy coaching carousel every single year you're gonna have a lot of conversations that are solely intended to get more money from the school you're at you did the same thing with browsers when your contract was up that's exactly what i did yes that's my that's the extent of my cock three that's the extent of my conversations with browsers you had a browser's background I did some ties to Brazzers.

1:31:49I was conceived on Brazzers. Power user. Yeah. All right. So Penn State's fucked. Everything else kind of settled a little bit. Let's talk about the playoff. Yeah. Let's talk about the playoff. Because we're taping this in the afternoon. At the beginning of the show, you would have heard us react to the live rankings. I don't think there's going to be a lot of crazy things. It's a chess board night. Right. Are they going to move? So, all right. Let's start in the back. Texas is out. Yeah. I actually have a take, and people probably say this is wrong, but it's my take. Texas is bitching and moaning about this whole, like, Ohio State if we didn't schedule Ohio State.

1:32:27Are we sure they would be in if they had scheduled no one? Because that Florida loss is – I know they have three very good wins. I think they would be because they have the win over Oklahoma. But that was also John Mateer coming back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. They have the win over Oklahoma. They have the win over Vanderbilt. They would be in conversation with teams they beat. They would be right on the edge, though. They wouldn't be like a slam dunk. They lost to Florida. Florida was garbage. I think Oklahoma is the team that probably has the best resume and is in the best spot right now of the at-large teams.

1:32:57And if Texas hadn't lost to Ohio State, they'd be ahead of Oklahoma. So they'd have the best spot. I just know they take injuries into account, and Matier could barely throw. The thing about that injury is we say Matier struggled because of injury. He struggled every game since then. Don't say anything bad about Sean Matier. He has not been good since then. I'm telling you you're on thin ice, buddy. I'm not on thin ice. And you're heavy. I'm the heaviest I've ever been. You can't get out on thin ice. I'm a smooth 282 right now. You're going to fall through. Are you really? I'm at least 280. I'm big right now.

1:33:28Yeah, plus or minus Darnell Washington. You're kind of about his size. I'm right at him, I think. No, he's 3 '11". Is he 3 '11"? That's what he says. That was before Thanksgiving. Yeah, I'm a little minus Darnell Washington, but he's – Listen, we're all heavy right now. It's December. It's a heavy time. So let's start at the back of it, though. Notre Dame and Miami. I did a troll tweet on Sunday where I made my whole rankings based on loss. Good losses should matter more than good wins. Obviously, I was joking. I understand the game was played in August. I still think the games have to matter.

1:34:02So I think it is the absolute perfect storm for this to be worst-case scenario for Notre Dame because they did spend the last three months just killing nobodies and killing USC. And being a really good team. Being a really good team, looking like a really good team. The quarterback's really good. The offense is really good. They look every bit like a really good team. And that's fine to, in the beginning of November, the end of October, to look at Miami, look at Notre Dame after Miami loses two games to unranked teams and say, oh, Notre Dame really looks better right now. I'm going to put them up.

1:34:31But now that we have a full picture, 12 games for every single team, the committee can look at 12 games for Miami, 12 games for Notre Dame. they're so even on the surface that when Miami has that one the head to head I don't know how the committee can reasonably look at the rest of college football and say we looked at these two teams one of them beat the other we're choosing this one I don't know how they can do it you can't do it I think that they've started to realize that you can see in their rankings how they come out week by week they're squeezing them a little bit more they realize the train crash that they put themselves on right yeah Miami kept on moving up without beating anyone yeah it's like wait this makes no sense because they have you can't come back from that argument.

1:35:10They played this game. We know that that team won. Let's be honest. On October 15th, if you're putting together a ranking system and everything, you're thinking, I just saw Miami lose to SMU or I saw them lose to Louisville, so I'm going to really dock them. But as you get further and further away and you get more of a clear picture of what these teams have been the entire time, they squeeze back closer to Notre Dame. Now, hypothetically speaking, though, if Notre Dame and Miami were to play a game, let's say, in Coral Gables on Saturday, you'd take Notre Dame. I wouldn't be shocked if Miami won, though.

1:35:42I would say it. I like to do the hypotheticals. We did it. But what the committee would be opening themselves up for, and they've got a couple of these situations, right? They've got two teams this week, Alabama and BYU, playing in conference championship games. Can you imagine a world where Alabama loses and stays in and BYU loses and does not? That, to me, is actually – That's what they're going to have to decide. That's the Armageddon scenario for the SEC is you have a championship game. Yeah. And you could potentially end up punishing one of the teams for playing in and losing the championship game against a team that they already played earlier this season.

1:36:19So if you're Jimmy Sexton, the commissioner of the SEC, what would happen? What would happen if Alabama loses, they get knocked out. Does this just end championship games? But I think BYU and Alabama are protecting each other. No, no, no, but I disagree because Alabama, you could just say, well, they beat Georgia at Georgia. They have the wins. Yeah, right. BYU didn't beat Texas Tech then lose the rematch. Yeah. If Alabama loses the rematch, you can be like, well, we can't – if Texas Tech kills BYU, I understand – like the committee I think has a right to be like, they played the best team on their schedule twice and they got killed twice.

1:36:56But BYU does have the fact they're 11-1, not 10-2 like Alabama. Yeah, yeah. It's tough. It's going to be an awkward conversation for the committee chair to come out of that meeting next week if both Alabama and BYU lose and say, yeah, Alabama, we think they're good enough to go. BYU, they're not. Unless they get killed by Texas Tech, which is very possible because Texas Tech is very good. Yeah, Texas Tech is very good. Do you think Texas Tech is good enough to win it all?

1:37:21I would like to list the teams I think are good enough to win it all. Because I'm asking this question maybe because I actually did make a bet on Texas Tech in September at 60-1. That's pretty crazy. How do you always end up with these bets? I never end up with these bets. That one was just after the Utah game. I was like, this team is fucking awesome. Now, I made that bet being like, I don't think they can win it all. Yeah, but it's worth a shot. But it's worth, especially because I have Ohio State futures, which are tied to other things. But either way, give us your teams that can win it all.

1:37:51So setting aside the idea that Ohio State is just way better than everybody, I think Ohio State can win it all, obviously. Indiana, I'm going to pass on right now. I think Georgia probably – I said pass on, I'll come back in a minute. Georgia has the talent to win it all. Weirdly, I don't know if they get in. I think Notre Dame's probably good enough to win it all. Yeah. I don't think Alabama is. Alabama just has a little bit of soft mentality when they get in these tough games. I don't think they can – When they got in that tough game against Oklahoma – Like Oklahoma's not – They can't run the ball.

1:38:18Oklahoma's not good enough to win it all. Ole Miss is not good enough to win it all. Vanderbilt, if they were to get in, not good enough to win it all. Miami, not good enough to win it all. Texas Tech, yeah, I think I would say they are. And Indiana, I probably would say yes. but Indiana's got this thing. They love to bully up on teams they're better than, and when the talent advantage isn't in their favor, they struggle mightily like they did against Penn State. Okay, so the one team that Indiana did beat that was shocking that I actually think could win it all, Dante Moore is impressive, man.

1:38:46He just makes big throws. He's just – And they've got that speed. He's impressive enough. Yeah. Like they win at Iowa 18-16. He's impressive enough. Well, that one doesn't count because when you play at Iowa, But, you know, afternoon, night, late in the year, that's not football. He also went 80 yards when he needed to and made some throws. I don't think Orkin can win at all. I don't see them putting together four great playoff games. The Indiana game was so damning to me. Like, Indiana just kind of pumped them in their own place. No, they did. They did. I'm very interested in this Big Ten championship game.

1:39:21I wish it mattered. Yeah. It just sucks that the championship – Championship Saturday used to be awesome. It used to be like, oh, my God, we have seven games that we can just sink our teeth into. You have it perfectly scheduled. I'm going to watch, but I don't care. What does it matter who wins Ohio State-Indiana? Well, let me ask this question. Okay, so I know that as far as playoff rankings go, the winner's going to be the one seed. The loser's probably going to be the three seed. Maybe the four. Yeah, or the three or the four. Yeah, depending on how Texas Tech does. The loser at worst will be the four seed, right?

1:39:55So it doesn't really matter there. But how much would it fucking matter? Ohio State hadn't won the Big Ten in several years now. No, I know. Ohio State didn't even get there last year. Ohio State has now won 16 straight games after losing to Michigan last year. They've beaten eight ranked teams in that span. They're putting together a historic run. A title would mean something to them. And how much would it fucking mean to Indiana to win the Big Ten? No, what you're saying is right. To the teams and the schools, it matters. Right. To the people who don't have – To us. whereas it used to matter.

1:40:25Well, maybe we're being dumb bitches about this. SEC championships used to matter. Are you pumped for this Alabama-Georgia game? I'm excited to watch it, but it doesn't feel like there's anything at stake. I'd be more pumped if it were teams that don't usually play it. Alabama and Georgia play it all the time. Ohio State and Indiana is something new and fresh and still exciting because Indiana is still new to this. Yes, for sure. Bama and Georgia is just Bama and Georgia. I'm interested to see how Indiana does it. No, I am interested to see how Kirby Smart coaches because even after Saban retired, He's still got this weird thing about Alabama.

1:40:55Yeah, he can't beat them. And if he doesn't beat them this time, I don't know when he's going to beat them. Yeah. What about A &M? Would you use the F word for them? I have used it several times this year. Not the slur that you usually use. Not the English cigarettes. Fraud. Fraud is the word. I know what you were saying. The F word. Phony. The one you say all the time. We're not saying that when we're saying, are they frauds? No, they are. The F. We don't care if they sleep with men or women. frauds. Texas A &M has the classic look of a fraudulent team. They beat Notre Dame earlier this season in a game that's going to go either way.

1:41:31There was a crazy holding call at the end that didn't get made. They win the game. That is a very impressive win. That is their best win. Their SEC schedule is the weirdest thing I've ever seen in my entire life. Their first seven SEC games where they started 7-0, they played teams ranked 9 through 16 in the SEC. They played the bottom 16 teams, or the bottom 7 teams in the SEC in their first seven SEC games. The second they played somebody in the top half of the league, Texas stumped them. So this looks like a team that feels like a fraud. Marcel Reed is not Joe Montana. Marcel Reed's a good, solid college quarterback.

1:42:04You can make him struggle a lot. South Carolina almost got him. And when they did it, and I said, hey, listen, that first half is a problem because South Carolina's a bad football team, and they made A &M look terrible for a half. A &M ended up coming back and winning, but that was a huge, huge red flag. I know you've got a lot of friends from Texas A &M. A lot of people that respond to your tweets on Twitter. Yeah. You get in some arguments with them. What are they saying when you call them frauds? They are saying the F slur that you're not. About you. Yes. About you. They are saying it, yes.

1:42:34So you are a fraud. Yeah. They're saying a lot of slurs back. Yeah. Yeah, they're an angry group. Yeah, I saw your list of the most annoying fan bases. Oklahoma's usually on that. Tennessee's on that. The one that surprised me, actually, was Oklahoma. Oh, really? You don't feel that with Oklahoma? I don't. You don't live in this space, buddy. Oklahoma's something. them. I lived in Austin, Texas for about 10 years. And you didn't feel it? And I did not. I didn't share that same hatred towards the Oklahoma Sooner fan base. I just... All the other ones on your list I thought were really good. I thought it was spot on.

1:43:04And then Oklahoma was like, that one stands out. They're one of those that only listen if you're talking about Oklahoma and get mad that you keep talking about Oklahoma because you're obsessed with Oklahoma. That's how... When you say Oklahoma lives rent-free in your brain. That's not what I say. You're talking about them right now, dude. You can't stop talking. He asked me about them. You put them on your list. They're on the list. I said, I don't really think about Oklahoma. Actually, you brought up Oklahoma. Yeah, you brought up Oklahoma. In what way? He asked you the fan bases that are most annoying.

1:43:30Yeah, that's bringing up Oklahoma. So it's rent-free. That's bringing up Oklahoma. He asked about Oklahoma. You brought up Oklahoma. I gave you an open-ended question. Tennessee. Indiana Jones? Indiana Jones. Wait. I always fuck up getting it. Oklahoma. I always fuck up getting it. Do it. You got it? No, no. Indiana Jones was fine. I don't know.

1:43:50That's the end of it. But what's the... It goes... Okay, I had the end. Hold on. No, that's Indiana Jones.

1:44:05Now I can't get it at all. I got a picture of Oklahoma walking out. It's such a great song. They just play it. They just hammer you with it. No, that's Indiana Jones, buddy. That was Indiana Jones. That was Indiana Jones. Okay, whatever. Let's move on. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Let's go. Rudy. Yep.

1:44:36There we go.

1:44:41It's a long intro. Do it again. it does sound like indiana jones when you dunton we do the whole thing though

1:44:57this is just we're gonna put that clip out rent free yeah you can't stop talking about it he's got the song in his head told me to do a boomer sooner going in his head you told me to do it oklahoma is the worst team we're talking about for the playoff and they have the best resume they have to be in but they're gonna their defense is awesome and i i still believe in Mateer, he was hurt for the middle of the season. I know he's not been great. I think Mateer is a dog. It's not just Mateer. They can't run it. They got no weapons. But Mateer can run it. Not really. He hasn't been. Just let him loose.

1:45:24He hadn't been doing it. They were lucky to be like five teams in the SEC. But they beat Alabama. And got out-gained by like 250 yards. I know, but their defense. They get out-gained in every game. That was less about their... It's not that Alabama's defense was that good. It was Oklahoma's defense was great. Their offense is limited. But the problem is they're half a playoff team. They're going to get in the playoff. They're going to lose 16-10. It's going to be the ugliest thing you've ever seen. And we're going to be talking about let's pull it back to an 18 playoff. Do you have any resentment in your heart for the University of Texas after what they did to you?

1:45:53Is that why you're saying they're not in your personal – First of all, I have resentment in my heart for everybody that succeeds in college football. Notre Dame, I have resentment for them. That's why we've gotten along so well this year. I have resentment for everybody. I ain't succeeded at all. Anybody who enjoys their Saturday afternoons watching their team, I resent that. Yeah, me, buddy. Yeah, me and you are in the same right now. We actually probably had our best friendship year in terms of college football discussion because we were just on Saturdays like, well, this sucks. We would just text each other like, this is it.

1:46:22We're in this together, buddy. Can you walk us through Brandon Walker Day at Mississippi State against Texas? It was amazing. We got up and we went and walked through the tailgates and had some jambalaya and did all the tailgate food. I got to hang out with Hardy, the country music guy. He asked about Brandon Walker Day and the first thing he talked about was eating. Yeah. That's Brandon Walker. And we're walking around. We did the dog walk. He's literally eating every day his entire life. We're doing the things. Every day is Brandon Walker Day. We're taking pictures. We're having fun. Hardy. And we go up 17.

1:46:55We're beating their ass. What did you eat at the game? Oh, my God. I stayed in the president's suite. Not the president's suite. I was in the press box. No, the athletic director's suite. Okay. And they had the best food up there. They had a pot of boiled peanuts. And I was just going back to boiled peanuts every touchdown. down and where it was a high scoring game i kept going getting a scoop of boiled peanuts and throwing the shells away it was great great day and then there was there was there was some barilla tacos barilla tacos and boiled peanuts oh that's great sippy tacos yeah they were delicious and then during the game that was during the game what happened uh at the end of the game we were up 17 with nine minutes and 37 seconds left i remember looking at the clock and saying that clock's going a little too slow and i i thought this game's going to be close at the end and I didn't know it was all good it was all well and good it was 17 then they cut it to 10 then they cut to seven with a field goal I think um and it's okay I'm over there taking pictures with uh I saw Dwayne Jefferson's dad Clyde and Clyde's like hey come over here how's your dad and I said he's dead and then I turn around as we're having that conversation I'm delivering to my dad's lifelong friend that my dad's been dead for two years I turn around I hear him go oh no and the punt returner for Texas is streaking past us and I just fell to my knees and I knew no matter what I got to get down to the end zone once they tied it well it was going to overtime and I said which end zone is overtime in I said that one I said well we got to be down there for whatever happens and you can break up a play and I picked the exact spot they threw that route and when it wasn't arch it was the backup quarterback the backup quarterback drops back and turns and I swear to God he looks at me and he turns that ball loose and I think he is throwing that directly to me and i at the time i the i don't think the receiver had even making his made his break yet and i was like there's no way that ball's going out of bounds and the guy just comes out of nowhere and as soon as it touches his hands i knew i knew he called it did you think about breaking the play up i you could have made a play 46 year old brandon walker getting arrested for for hitting uh also if i try to hit him he kills me yeah he just like goes through me like tinfoil you just high point the ball you go out there maybe so i go for the ball not hit so you're not saying separate the man from the ball you're saying go get the ball i'm saying go get that ball make a play i don't know that i had the leaping ability or the inclination or the i don't know did you still have boiled peanuts on your breath oh i had i had peanuts so at least you had that dan i had peanuts in my pocket oh i love that all right so brandon uh that by the way that's the other thing about texas i know that we talked about them and i don't think they should be in because they have three losses and i get the ohio state thing they went to overtime against kentucky and old mississippi state back-to-back weeks right like that they have four road games in the SEC.

1:49:34A loss to 4-8 Florida, a blowout loss in Athens, two overtime games in Lexington and Starkville. That's not a playoff team. And they also played when they're like, oh, we shouldn't schedule anyone. Their other three games that they played that weren't Ohio State were no one. They were no one, yeah. And they were average. They spent six weeks being an average team. They took them a while. Now, they're better now, and they're greatly positioned to go into next year with Arch as being way better than he was. He has developed like an actual quarterback usually does. So I think they're in a great position going forward.

1:50:03But we don't have enough room at the end right now. Who do they play week one? I don't think they return Ohio State. Oh, they don't? I don't know. I don't know if it's a true home-at-home back-to-back years. They might open with Ohio State at home. That would be very funny. Let's see. But I think it's one of those with a two-year gap in them. It's not. Yeah, it's not Ohio State. Who do they have? Oh, no, they do. They do have Ohio State. Week two. So they open with a nobody and then they play Ohio State? They open with Texas State and then they play Ohio State. But I think they'll be pretty positioned to do well in that game.

1:50:34Also, if you win that game, like if they won that game, guess what? The Florida loss means nothing. Yeah. Okay. Real quick. Are you a little upset that you spent, you know, because we do the college football show together. That was the other part of our year is that we were surrounded by Dave, Big Ev, and Casey, and it was Mississippi State and Wisconsin, and we were just like, all right, we'll talk about all the other games. But are you a little upset? You spent three, four years being Buckeye Brandon. Then you went to Penn State. And then Ohio State finally embarrassed Michigan. And they embarrassed Michigan.

1:51:09Michigan acted a fool. The fact that Michigan defended their logo is one of the lamest things I've ever seen. The most pathetic thing I've ever seen. They had to have talked about it while the game was still going on. Maybe even at halftime. Yeah. So do you have a little bit of remorse there? and also would you like to say, which we asked you, I think in September, we've been saying it for a long time, have we not, PFT? This Ohio State team's better than last year's. So that's the fallacy of Dave Portnoy being around Dave Portnoy. I was never a Buckeye, Brandon. I was simply anti-Michigan during the entire run.

1:51:41I was simply anti-when everybody was saying J.J. McCarthy's the best quarterback in the world. I was like, no, he's not. They're not even asking him to throw. He's just handing off all the time. I'm not going to participate in this fiction that J.J. McCarthy is Joe Montana, J.J. McCarthy was really good when they asked him to hand the ball off. Also, did you see Max Brosnan last weekend? He never threw 200 yards in that season. Did you see Max Brosnan last weekend? It was awful. Nine looked pretty good. Not really. What you saw was the absence of nine. Nine is pretty good. That picture of Michigan gathering lonely at the M.

1:52:13Just desperate for somebody to defend against. Listen, respect. While Ohio State goes and celebrates with their fans. Respect. This is what it's about, Brandon. What about the grown man that got on the ground? in front of 100 ,000 people to wipe up the snow where Brutus had put Ohio. Brutus dotted the I. This is what college football is about. The score is an afterthought. No, college football is about faking out a relationship with a dog. If you can protect your logo after the game, that's as good as a win. That's a grown man. Thank you for your service. Are you ready to admit that Ohio State's better this year?

1:52:43They are. Okay. Now, could you want to say anything to me and PFT for being the first to it? I would like to say this. You want to apologize? No, but can I just say the point, and then we'll see if I'm going to apologize or not? I'm not sure if the improvement of Ohio State happened all this year. I think it might have started last year. When they lost to Michigan, they took that two - or three-week break and came into the playoff, and something changed in them right then because they had four straight – they had the most impressive playoff run we will ever see. They had four straight dominations, four straight double-digit victories over some legit teams last year.

1:53:17So whatever happened at Michigan, they changed then, and now we have the full year manifestation of what they turned into at the end of last year. Are you saying steroids? No, I'm just saying Ryan Day locked the fuck in. Ohio State locked the fuck in. But Julian Sayan is way better than Will Howard. Julian Sayan is better. The defense is just as good. And that's the bigger shot because they lost so many good defensive players. But, you know, Arvel Reese turning into Superman, Caleb Downs being Caleb Downs, and then the defensive line just, you know, throwing four or five guys out last year to the NFL and then just bringing in four or five new guys that are going to go to the NFL.

1:53:50It's just incredible. They're the defensive coordinator. They lost Jim Knowles to Penn State, and we're like, oh, my goodness. Ohio State just lost both their coordinators, and they upgraded. Matt Patricia, that was actually the real winner of this entire offseason, Matt Patricia. I would agree with that. For saying no thank you to UNC. I'll go to Ohio State. Yeah. Would you take Ohio State or the field? Ohio State. Yeah. I think there's legitimately – I think they'll be tested. I think Georgia could test them. I think Notre Dame, if they were given the opportunity, could test them. Texas Tech is the big wild card here.

1:54:23Defensively, they definitely can slow down, stay in, and they can put some pressure on them. But I don't know if they're going to be able to – I don't know what Baron Morton's doing against that Ohio State defense. I think there's probably three to four teams that can beat them, but it would take perfect circumstances. I also think there is – I do subscribe to the theory that Ohio State has not gone into the ultimate gear that they have. No, but they also haven't been dragged into deep water at all. Of course. They haven't had to freeze. Although that first quarter was – that was like a spot where Ryan Day was probably clenching a little.

1:54:56But the second Michigan took out their gun in the first five minutes and shot it and barely pierced the skin of Ohio State, when they only scored six points in the first after having the ball down there twice, that game was over. What's up with the headbutting with the official? Did we get a clarification on that after the game? I'm guessing the official just decided in his heart of hearts I believe the Michigan player was trying to say, this is what they're doing to me, man. They're doing this. I think he knew there was no intent or malice, because usually that's getting you kicked out every time.

1:55:25Yeah, the official had a very funny reaction when it happened. He did the thing that refs do where they very angrily reach down for their flag, and then they blow their whistle super hard. And then it seemed like cooler heads prevailed a little bit. It just seemed like, I mean, if you headbutt a ref, you used to always get kicked out for that. Touch a ref. I feel like that ref's walk to the other refs calmed him down. I think the other refs might have gotten mad at him after the game. Like you said, a bad precedent. Yeah. Well, they're going to be headbutting us all day. Yeah. Stand up for yourself.

1:55:52Cole Knipple. What would be your, would you have a signature flag toss? Do you think the best flag toss is taking it out and throwing it down? You think as much air as you can get? I go through my legs. Go through your legs? I go Gronk Spike. Gronk. Just down at the ground. I think throwing it 75 feet in the air and just waiting for it to fall before you even blow your whistles. I also would, like we saw that ref we were talking about on Monday's show, the ref trying to grab his flag and couldn't get it, I would keep it cocked at all times. I wouldn't have it in my pocket. I'd have it in my hand.

1:56:20New rule, if you can't get your flag out on the first two times, it's not a penalty. Yeah, I agree. Can't pump fake on it. Did you ever look at refs' hands and how they have their whistle and the little bands around each of their fingers? You know what that's for? No. That's how they keep track of the down. Oh, they put it, oh yeah, first down, second down, third down? Yeah, yeah. Why can't they just look at the sign? I don't know. It's just a time-honored thing. Some things are just tradition, I guess. That Colorado game. I would lose my place all the time. You also have fat fingers. I don't have fat.

1:56:50I don't have. I have skinny fingers. Actually, you know what? You kind of do. I have skinny fingers. I have skinny appendages. You have a fat cock. I have a narrow cock. I have skinny appendages. I have narrow toes, narrow fingers, and a narrow cock. You got a small nose, too. Cock's a number two big fat cock, Brandon. Okay, Brandon, last question. Rowback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. That's Roback.com, promo code TAKE. what is let's play out the doomsday scenario for the committee and how you would see them or put them in So, Ohio State, Indiana, Texas A &M, Georgia, Texas Tech, Oregon, Ole Miss.

1:57:29That's the seven. That's the seven. What's the doomsday scenario this coming weekend, and then who gets in? The doomsday scenario has to start with Duke beating Virginia. Yeah. Duke beating Virginia is crazy. You know, is Alabama losing and BYU winning? Okay. Because BYU winning now puts Texas Tech on the chopping block. I think they would much rather have BYU on the chopping block with two losses because there's a lot more clarity there. BYU wins, but Satake takes the Penn State job. Oh, my goodness. You realize how many teams we might have in this playoff with new coaches? With interim coaches?

1:58:09Yeah. All right, so let's say this happens. Let's say Duke beats Virginia. But can I ask a question? Is Duke winning a doomsday scenario? They might sneak Duke in. Duke winning forces either two G5s or it forces Duke in. But if Duke doesn't win, it's just Virginia. It's just Virginia. Yeah. So we're getting – It's a doomsday scenario for the ACC. We're getting a G5 team and an undeserving ACC champ or two G5 teams. Yes. All right. So I don't – you can get to this in the doomsday. I don't think that they'd put Duke in. I think that would be asking a lot. You think they'd put both Tulane and JMU in?

1:58:45I think they would because Duke – I mean, come on. Tulane without a coach. Yes. All right, so here's the do. Or UNT. I think UNT actually jumps JMU if they beat Tulane. So BYU wins, Alabama wins. Yeah. That's the doomsday scenario. Yeah, because I think it puts Texas Tech on the chopping block, and I think they have a better look to them than BYU does. I feel like the committee, if BYU loses, can go into that room, and if they so choose, can lose BYU, no problem. Now, the scariest spot for this committee to be in, no matter who gets in, Oklahoma, if it comes down to spot number 12, Notre Dame or Miami, one's getting in, one's not getting in.

1:59:25I believe the committee thinks Notre Dame is a better team. Yeah, so actually that's not, BYU and Alabama winning is not the doomsday because then it would just be Oklahoma, Alabama, BYU, and they'd keep Notre Dame and Miami out. Yeah, so their doomsday comes when they have to choose between Notre Dame and Miami. Correct, so it's actually more. If they can get them both in, great. If they can get them both out, great. It's more Alabama winning, BYU losing, and then it would be between Notre Dame and Miami for that last play. So then it becomes between BYU, Miami, and Notre Dame. Yeah, but BYU would say they're out because they lost Texas.

1:59:55They'd say BYU's out, and then it becomes. And I truly think the committee, if you gave them truth to them, who's the better team, they would say Notre Dame. I think they would be beholden to put Miami in. They would have to. Yeah. You played the game. Yeah, because they would be setting themselves up for a future of agony. of every time something like this comes up. Well, you know it's going to 16. Yeah, but... Because that's what they do. But it's just... Then we're just going to have different discussions. I agree. Yeah, I agree. And at this point, if you don't make it, it's on you. It's on you.

2:00:24It's like Texas, it's on you. But listen, 8, 12, whatever. Last year, we had a 12-team playoff. We did not have enough good teams for 12. This year, we have... This year, we got 15. We got 16. There's not a perfect number. And you just got to deal with it however you're going to deal with it every year. That's why this committee is going to get a lot of money. You're going to have to make some hard decisions, dude. Just fucking do it. Is there a way that they kick out Oklahoma and then they keep Notre Dame and Miami? If Oklahoma hadn't beat Alabama, yes. But that Alabama win is doing a lot of work for Oklahoma.

2:00:53That Alabama road win is doing a lot of work. What if Alabama loses? Look at Brandon talking about Oklahoma again. That win gets worse. Max! I didn't do anything. Why are you looking at me? He asked me about Oklahoma there. I just can't stop thinking about Oklahoma. You were talking. You opened the entire door of Oklahoma. Every Oklahoma from here on out is because you brought them up. But there's not a world you can talk about the 12-team playoff. It's still the same Oklahoma that you brought up the first time. But there's not a world you can talk about the 12-team playoff without talking about Oklahoma.

2:01:21We've done it. Can I ask you one crazy hypothetical? And I want to take my bias out and just ask you guys. Oh, I know where you're going. Is there any world? Like I said, 15 teams for 12 spots. Do they have a discussion about Ole Miss? about not having their offensive coaching staff, about not having Lane Kiffin? I personally don't think they do, but is that a world? No, because I bet you there's one guy in this room who's going to be like, hey, should we talk about this? And then they'll be like, nah. Okay. That will probably be the extent of it. We blew it. They killed us on Friday. If we beat OMS, 10-2 OMS without a coach is not going to play up.

2:02:00They would be on the chopping block. But at 11-1, they've got enough leeway where they're going to be fine. You had your chance. Yeah. You blew it. We didn't blow it. They just killed it. Somebody might bring it up inside that room. They got to bring up everything. They understand that if they do that, then the entire premise of having a college football playoff. I also don't think – what you're about to say is disingenuous. What? Well, maybe you weren't about to say it. I don't know what – I was about to say that Ole Miss beat Oklahoma, so you couldn't have Oklahoma. Oh, fair enough. Fair enough.

2:02:27But I think the people saying, well, they kept Florida State out. That was a four-team playoff back then. Yeah, no. These are not consistent. And that was a starting quarterback. I think if Ole Miss lost their starting quarterback, I think they'd probably have the discussion. They're going to lose the starting quarterback as soon as their game ends because Lane's going to call him. Oh, imagine if Lane got Chambliss out before the playoff committee. That'd be amazing. Like this week he got him out? He wouldn't do that because he wants that money. Yeah. What if LSU paid him$2 million to get Chambliss?

2:02:58$2 million for a starting quarterback. If I were Lane Kiffin in Lane Kiffin's shoes right now, I would take Chambliss right now, and then I would say I'm going to donate any extra bonuses I get from Ole Miss winning in the playoffs. Yes, and I'm going to donate it to the Children's Hospital in Baton Rouge so that it just circles back to my team anyway. I'll donate the winnings to some disadvantaged youth out there that happen to be five-star recruits. They've done that before. Everything about them is... Okay. I love LSU. Yeah. LSU's a fun place. I met somebody else. Oh, you're talking about Ole Miss again.

2:03:37Yeah. They once recruited a five-star by adopting him and then making a movie about it. It was all fake. It was all fake. The entire thing was fake. No, no. I'm not... I'm talking... I've never seen the movie, but it was all fake. Wait, so you've never seen the movie, but you know it's fake. You read the book? The actual... The guy involved texted me and said, this is all bullshit. He sent that? Yeah, to me. Nah. Yeah. Ben Mintz? All right. Michael Orr? Uh-huh. Yes. Well, Brandon, it's been a delight having you on the show. I don't believe you. Always. Always. We love having you here. Is this my last time?

2:04:10Big fat cock, Brandon. Well, I don't think you're going to be the college football expert anymore, Brandon. That didn't do anything for me. Everyone in the chat, fat cocks. Pull up that spreadsheet again. What can they do to? I don't know. Is that two seeds? Big eggplants in the chat for Brandon. Got a fat cock. Yeah. Let's see. Guys got a fat cock. Let's see the spreadsheet again. Okay, so you still have – No, I'm done. There's nothing I can do. You got Texas. He's Oregon. You got Notre Dame and Oregon. I got Oregon. Yeah, that was a bad effort. So what went wrong? The fact that there was no Indiana is crazy.

2:04:39There's like four or five teams. What lessons have you learned? Because you've been wrong a lot this year. Not really. Between this spreadsheet and – No more so than any other year. And Lane Kiffin. You had no Oklahoma. No Ole Miss. I was never going to pick Ole Miss. I'm keeping Texas as empty for you. That's generous. I'm being generous with that. No, they're not in. You can make that red. I don't care. You don't have to. They're in the conversation. It's in the conversation. We're having the conversation. Yeah. We're having the conversation. Also, Brandon, what if the committee just said, you know what?

2:05:06Lane Kiffin leaving Ole Miss, that's a problem. Lane is a great coach. You said it yourself, Brandon. One of the top five coaches in football. What if they put LSU in because now they have Lane Kiffin? What was I doing? I don't know. I picked LSU, Penn State. I believed in Penn State. That was wrong. Boise State, you know, whatever. It's actually funny, too, because Tom picked the team you believe in the most in Clemson. No, I believed in Penn State the most. I had Penn State picked as a – Your four finalists this year before the season were Penn State, Clemson, LSU, and Arizona State. I don't know if it was Arizona State, but, yeah, I was – I wasn't big on Arizona State because I knew we were going to beat them.

2:05:47So, I don't know about that one. One last question. How many last questions? This is the last, last one. All right. Michigan. Yeah, sure. They were number one on your list of fan bases you don't like. It felt like that was just mostly about Dave Portnoy. It is. What are they going to do with their coaching situation? So, you know, there's a lot of stuff out there. I personally choose not to believe it because if it were that big of a deal, it would have already happened. I think they're going to go into next season with a lame duck coach, a bad coach. They are a poorly coached football team for 2025.

2:06:19I think fundamentally, and, you know, they have a good approach, and if they have the talent advantage on a team, they're going to beat them. But when they're up against these Ohio states of the world, these high-scoring offenses in 2025, they're going to a gunfight with a knife. They just can't do it. And Sharon Moore is – they're wasting their time with Sharon Moore as a head coach, and they wasted their money on Bryce Underwood,$12 million, to never even try to develop the kid into a passer. They never even gave him a chance this year. If you're going to throw a young guy out there, let him chunk it down the field and make his mistakes.

2:06:49They didn't even let him do it. You know what I'd like to see? What would you like to see? I'd like to see John Harbaugh. John Harbaugh. John Harbaugh. John Harbaugh at Michigan. John Harbaugh at Michigan. Continuing the Harbaugh. Continuing the lineage. Oh, Charlie Weiss is returning to Ole Miss as offensive coordinator to coach the playoffs. So there goes that discussion. They didn't lose their offensive coordinator. Charlie Weiss? What do we know? Charlie Weiss Jr. Nobody knows who that is. I'm still mad at you, though, because you kept Bill Glasscock. I didn't know you wanted to know about Bill Glasscock.

2:07:22I mean, the guy's name is Glasscock. How do you not tell us that's his name? Billy Glasscock, he's the key to Lane Kiffin's success, Glasscock. Yeah. Yeah, he's his right-hand man. How weird is Scott Strickland? If you weird out Lane Kiffin, you're a weird dude. No, no, no. Why, again, are we believing everything Lane Kiffin says? I choose to believe Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin's a weird guy. Believe all lanes. Lane Kiffin faked a dog, Dan. Believe all lanes. I believe Scott Strickland has a dog, and it is his dog. Scott Strickland's a normal guy. Not a very good Atlanta director, but he's a normal guy.

2:07:50He weirded out Lane Kiffin. That's weird. I believe all lanes. All right, Brandon Walker, our college football expert for another month and a half. Farewell. Farewell. We'll have you on right before to hand over your trophy and your belt and everything. Punch for an alley right in the chin. Yeah. All right. You'll get it all. Brandon Walker is brought to you by the Farmer's Dog. You know what time it is. It's time for a fresh approach to dog food. That's where the Farmer's Dog comes in. It's developed by board-certified nutritionists. The farmer's dog is human-grade dog food that's made with real meat and veggies and gently cooked to preserve nutrients.

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2:09:44I don't know It feels like a Cincinnati, yeah He wants to be courted, I don't blame him But I was big on Dying on a hill in Schwarber because he was His defense was not great When he started, this was before the DH So I was big time It's fine, it doesn't matter The way he hits bombs, you can deal with The defense, so like had to do a lot of defending Of that I would say... Drake May. You die on a hill for Drake. But I think they were asking for someone who has a flaw in their game. Oh, because he... 300. Yeah, it's a big-time flaw. Hank, that's very brave of you. Thank you. You must get a lot of shit for that.

2:10:19Yeah. I would say... I mean, Tom Wilson. Tom Wilson, I die on several hills for him every year. I do think that he is targeted by the NHL. I think he's targeted by refs. I think that any other team in hockey would kill to have Tom Wilson play for them because he's not only just like a fucking bruiser and a mountain of a dude, but he's very skilled, can score goals, one of the best goal scorers in the league. I love Tom Wilson. Future face of this league? Future face of this league? Yeah. I loved it when he broke his cheek and he scored two goals looking like he had the mumps. And then that was the same day that Joel Embiid was out for like three months because he broke his face.

2:11:00That was a perfect day for me. What do you guys pick? Embiid? Embiid's the easy answer. My favorite answer, though, people don't remember. Hot in the streets, when I was 13, people hated Ryan Howard because they thought that he struck out too much. And I was a big die on my hill for Ryan Howard, and I thought he got way too much hate in Philly. I liked that with Javi Baez, too, because he struck out a lot and couldn't. And, yeah, he struck out a lot. Ryan Howard shook out a lot, too, but I fucking love Ryan Howard. If you look back at some of Ryan Howard's seasons, he just had video game stats.

2:11:38Yeah. Zach, memes? Chad Pennington. Oh, noodle arm. Elite. He was. I mean, he was a good quarterback. Noodle arm. Elite. But the noodle arm. No. He could sling it. Well, but he didn't his arm. He was good. Who could throw further? We're doing it right now. We're doing the argument. Chad Pittington or Tua? Tua. You think Tua could outgun him? I think he could outgun him. No way. We need to settle this. Didn't Chad Pittington get hurt, and that's why his arm was zapped? He never had the strongest arm, but then he had a bad shoulder, and that made it worse. Also, put this in the bookmarks, Hank, for Friday's show.

2:12:27Tua at the Jets on Sunday. In the cold. Two of fingers? It's going to be chilly in New York, and he's 0-7 in his career below 46 degrees. Love that. Let's just remember to talk about that. Also, I just... Also, it reminded me of Michael Irvin. Did you guys see his tweet about the big hit last night? Yeah, that was great. You hear what he said? All-time old Michael Irvin. Oh, the one who's cold? No. The big hit you just saw in the game between the Patriots and the Giants are the kind of hits, all caps, we had to take on every damn play. Just trying to enlighten the young NFL fans who never saw passes caught, C-O-U-G-H-T, where great pain lived.

2:13:06Every pass caught where great pain lived. Yeah, I love this. I love this. Because, yeah, the game was pretty violent back then. It's pretty violent now. Yeah, but it was more violent, for sure. Every damn play. There would be a hit like that every play. I still laugh every now. Probably once a month, I just think about the random Jets fan showing two of fingers to Jake. just being so beaten like shook up about it shattered his innocence okay what's up Big Cat and PFT would you all take it if the Bears and Commanders played every year winner always makes the NFC title game loser season always becomes a disaster yeah yeah I mean that would be kind of cool making the NFC championship game is awesome listen if you had asked me before that draft would you take one nfc championship game in the next five years i would be like fuck yeah the the the amount of misery that we've had rooting for shitty franchises it makes you compromise on a lot of stuff and your expectations are very low so yes i would 100 take that the only the only thing i would not take is we'd have to change when when the game is played every single like it can't just be like week three i would want there to be a little bit more leeway where we both have some belief yeah yeah yeah like if it goes year but year to year you don't play at the same time every single year so there's some years where it's like okay we would play week one and the season would be over for one of us some years we play week 16 and we just have belief the whole way thanksgiving yeah do it on thanksgiving every year i'd be okay with that yeah in a hypothetical world you have to pick one team in any sport to all root for together as a podcast which team would it be?

2:14:52We should do this. That'd be funny if we picked, like, if we just became a huge Columbus Blue Jacket. I don't know. What would be? Yeah. Like, we could just do that with the MLS and not even care about it. Oh, we could do that with the MLS. Should we pick it? Yeah, the Water Dogs. Oh, yeah. Good point. Good point. You guys want to do Premier League? Nah. Nah. Nah. That's too early. Too many games. I'm trying to think of what. I don't really understand the table. Yeah, we could do MLS teams real quick. Let's pick an MLS team that we're going to just ride for. Yeah. The whole squad. Do we just ride into Miami because they just get every guy at the end of their career?

2:15:31Yeah, let's just become the biggest fans of this team. All right. There are way more MLS teams. Oh, my God. That's so many teams. Holy shit. Let's see. Holy fuck. That's so many teams. Let's see. what's the most random city that they have in there? Charlotte? Yeah, we could do Charlotte. What are they? We're not going to do this. Let's not pretend we're going to care about the MLS. We're just going to say it. What about Colorado? It'd be nice to be able to go to Colorado. Or San Diego? San Diego, yes. There's a San Diego MLS team? San Diego, San Diego. Yeah, San Diego FC. I'm in on San Diego. We're the biggest San Diego FC guys in the world.

2:16:15That's all they got. We talked enough shit about the union. I don't care. That's all right. When they come play in Chicago next year, we got to go. I think we should go there, show our support. I agree with Hank. Be one with San Diego. One with the pitch. You want to feel that grass under your feet. Yeah. Love that. Love the FC. Least original game of all time. I cannot believe that there's this many. How many FCs are there? There's a lot of FCs. Grow up. Pick a fucking logo. I agree. Well, they have logos. They have SCs, too, which is crazy. So dumb. It's also just It's not American Why are we trying to be like England Why are we doing FC Just pick a name Real Salt Lake You're in Utah You're not in Madrid Some of them say FC and some of them say football club It's just got to be one or the other Oh I kind of like Orlando City Orlando City What are they called We go to the Chili's Orlando City A lot of golf in Orlando Orlando City might be I think we go Orlando City I'm golfing in Orlando in February I mean cheaper flights Orlando City Let's see the logo for Orlando City real quick Give me Orlando City I don't even know where that is Just click on them Florida I can't see We're gonna go logo It's a lion It looks like water dogs Okay now show us San Diego's I kind of like Orlando What's the logo?

2:17:44Oh, that's sick It's like, you hate San Diego San Diego looks kind of like a butthole Alright, let's just say If it's odd, we're doing San Diego If it's even, we're doing Orlando Okay These are two, like, blob impenetrable cities Safety from the blob Even Orlando FC, guys Why? Did you guys see it? The lottery ball machine kept lighting up right there. Uh-oh. Science. There was like an LED light that was going on. That's cool. Has Orlando won anything? I don't think Orlando's won anything. I feel like we would know, right? It's called a reflection. Do we have any others? Oh, it's the same owners as the Vikings.

2:18:31Did we have that on camera? Oh, the Wilfs? Yeah, the Wilfs. We can end on that. Okay. Wait, is there another one that you don't want to read, Hank? They're not great. Okay, let's just see. Let's see if we've ever won anything. Us Orlando FC guys. I guess this is a book plug. What's going on as an AWL that joined after the move to Chicago? I'd love to hear more about the backstory of the change to the new office and how that all went down. Book. Book. Book. It'll be all in the book. Book. Also, doc on YouTube. But book. But book, yeah. Oh, wait. We held back on the doc for the book. Kingston. is our mascot sean kingston he's got he's a he's an uh anthro how do you say that word anthropomorphic anthropologist anthropomorphized and bulked up lion complete with brown and purple dreadlocks hey that rocks i dude i'm in on the orlando fc combination fuck it disqualification i do not think we've ever won anything i don't think we've ever won anything which is good that's my PFT tip of the day.

2:19:35If you ever just want to have fun saying a word, say disqualification in a Jamaican accent. You won't regret it. Disqualification. Yeah, see? Disqualification. Okay.

2:19:50Hold on. Disqualification. Max, take it for a spin. Disqualification.

2:19:58PFT, we've actually had this conversation before, which is not shocking. No, it's like I have to say combination, and then PFT automatically follows up with disqualification. That's my version of ant. I do not think we've ever won the whole thing. This is too much MLS talk. I'm over it already. No, we have won the whole thing. National sports podcast. We've won the whole thing. 2022. MLS. Yeah, we're really hitting all the stops today. PLL, we've hit it. Orlando. NBA, NFL, MLB. We hit them all. All right, we're... NHL. Jackpocket. Today's Lottery Ball segment is brought to you by Jackpocket. The numbers...

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The CFP rankings are out and James Madison is finally ranked in the Top 25. We talk about the dumb committee rankings (00:00:00-00:16:32) and then talk MNF with the Patriots killing the Giants (00:16:32-00:34:52). More coaching carousel and Hot Seat/Cool Throne including the Steelers in a bad bad place and Lebron stat padding plus we try to figure out F1 for the thousandth time (00:34:52-01:13:51). Brandon Walker joins the show to talk rivalry week, Lane Kiffin out of his state, his predictions for this year, why he's obsessed with Oklahoma and who could win the National Championship (01:13:51-02:07:29). We finish the show with listener FAQ's (02:07:29-02:21:54).


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