Coach O In Studio, Mt Rushmore Of Worst Sounds, UFC 319, England Wants A Super Bowl And Preseason Week 2

11:21PFT Commenter:I do too, but I'm starting to get to the point where when you're trying to figure out who the playoff teams are, and we're going to do some more NFL previews when we get closer in the next week or two. When you're trying to figure out who the playoff teams are, it's not that I don't think Matt Stafford's going to start the season. I don't know, can he finish the season?

11:41Big Cat:I think he can start and finish the season, but I think he'll probably miss a couple games inside the season. But that's significant.

11:47PFT Commenter:There's a big drop-off between Matthew Stafford and Setson Bennett. I don't know. Yes, I know. Yes, there is. Yes, huge one. All right, any other? Oh, you had the DTR experience, right, Max? Yeah, he's terrible. I can't believe he's on a roster.

12:04Big Cat:I mean, he's probably going to get cut.

12:07PFT Commenter:I'll miss betting against him. It's fun.

12:09Big Cat:I watched the first two drives, and he just doesn't know how to take a sack. He just doesn't know how to take a sack.

12:18PFT Commenter:Memes, you had the Terod Taylor experience. Do we have a Justin Fields update? Mims said – go ahead, Mims. He went one for five. That's fine. Four yards. It's preseason. You trailed off there. I think he had three yards. Okay, yeah, it's preseason. Mims said to me that he thinks the New York Jets this year are going to break the record for rushing attempts.

12:40Big Cat:That could be. They did drive yesterday where they only ran it.

12:45PFT Commenter:That's awesome.

12:46Big Cat:I think we're just going to watch Army-Navy every single week.

12:49PFT Commenter:That's kind of fun, though. You can't throw interceptions when you run it.

12:53Big Cat:Yeah, the defense just has to play good. But the big thing from the Jets game this weekend was Abdul Carter completely crashed out online.

12:59PFT Commenter:Oh, what happened? I missed that.

13:01Big Cat:So, Abdul Carter got pancaked by StoneSmart, our third string tight end. Okay. So, Abdul Carter took to Twitter. Go to Abdul's tweet.

13:13PFT Commenter:It's called X? X. X, everything out. What did he say? Oh, did you quote tweet him? I did. Yeah. All right. He said, might be the only highlight of the Jets all season, and we put... BTA. Belt to ass. Belt to ass. Weak-ass chip ate that motherfucker like BBQ. He ate it. Okay.

13:34Big Cat:I mean, he did get knocked on his ass twice on the same play. Yeah, he did. I don't think you could say weak-ass chip. It was a good chip. Yeah. It was a strong-ass chip.

13:42PFT Commenter:Yeah. And, yeah, because also, wouldn't you, if you're Abdul Carter, you don't want to get knocked down by a weak-ass chip. No, he got knocked down. I want to get knocked down by the biggest chip you can find.

13:52Big Cat:Yeah, he did eat it. He ate the chip. He got chipped to death. Yeah. Good block, though. Two good blocks on that play.

13:59PFT Commenter:It's preseason, guys. What are we doing? Let's get to the regular.

14:02Big Cat:I saw the reporter before the game. He was interviewing Dable, and he was like, so the two New York teams, does that add a little extra in a bad blood to this game, even though it's a preseason? And Dable was just like, no, no. He's like, it's a preseason game.

14:16PFT Commenter:Yeah, do you guys agree with me that preseason week one feels special in the fact that you get to see it on TV? And then you're like, all right, when preseason week two, I knew the Bears were playing Sunday night because it was on Fox and everything. But all the other games, I would look at ESPN and it would be like Saturday at 2 o 'clock and be like, oh shit, those two teams are playing right now?

14:41Big Cat:Yeah, preseason week two, week three is a good reminder of which backup quarterbacks are still in the NFL. Yeah, let's get it on. That's what I like to say. Let's get it on. Yeah. I had preseason football on my list of Mount Rushmore last week of things we get over that we get hyped about that don't live up to it. That things you don't understand the hype about?

14:57PFT Commenter:Like you. I think we, I think most people don't hype it as much as we hype it. And I'm here to say that someone set a reminder for myself that you're going to get hyped about week one preseason next year. Just wait till week two and you're going to lose all your hype. And you're just going to lose it all. I'm just going to be ready to go. Now I'm ready to go. I've seen it. I'm ready to go.

15:19Big Cat:Max, I got a question for you. Yep. Did Howie do it again? Everyone, every trade that the Eagles make now is just Howie did it again. I don't know. I have two Howie did it agains of the weekend. John, I don't know. So you traded for Mechie from Houston. I love Mechie. He had a tough rookie season. I think he had leukemia, and he was out for a while. But he's a good, good wide receiver, and he played with Devontae at Alabama, right? He did. He did. So that's my one, did Howie do it again? And then the other is your safety. Makuba? Yeah. He looks like a ball player. He looks like Howie. Ball player?

15:57Big Cat:He might have done it again. Oh, yeah. Ball hawk. Good for you. That's what we're seeing. He had a pick six. He had a fumble recovery. Ball hawk is what people are saying.

16:06PFT Commenter:Okay. Howie did it again.

16:08Big Cat:Yeah, Howie did it again.

16:09PFT Commenter:Fucking Howie.

16:10Big Cat:Fucking Howie.

16:12PFT Commenter:And then we also had Arthur Smith getting very horny Oh I didn't see that Oh the horniest play call of all time I missed that I think it was happening during UFC 319 No big deal we went Can we pull that up? I would like to see it I'm treating it like going to a UFC fight Is like running a marathon Like we actually went

16:30Big Cat:We went for the whole thing Most of the thing No the whole main card

16:35PFT Commenter:Joe Mazzullo went for the whole thing He was there for the whole thing He was there. I think he would have been the first person in the building.

16:41Big Cat:Ryan Russillo was there for the whole thing? Multiple. Everybody at UFC fights is a different iteration of Ryan Russillo.

16:47PFT Commenter:That was one of my biggest takeaways from the UFC is that Russillo needs to get tats. Yeah. Because we were just seeing, and I love Russillo, very good friend. We were seeing just like better models of Russillo. They were everywhere. We were surrounded by it. It was T-1000 Russillo. Yeah. With just like sick arm tats. you're like, oh, fuck, I wouldn't fuck with that guy.

17:09Big Cat:I even saw a couple of Ryan Russillas. Yeah. A couple of female versions.

17:12PFT Commenter:All he's got to do is get the tats because he's got everything else. Yeah. He's got the build. What a female version of... Do you think UFC... Actually, I think UFC might be pound for pound the number one bald sport. Yes. There were so many bald guys. Yeah, without question. The entire security staff was bald.

17:28Big Cat:Everybody there that's bald could kick your ass.

17:30PFT Commenter:Yeah, they're all bald. I also think that the stadium...

17:32Big Cat:From age like 30 to 70. Yeah. Yeah.

17:34PFT Commenter:Every type of bald you could ever imagine, it is at a UFC fight. They could all beat our ass.

17:39Big Cat:I think that the stadium security, when there's a UFC fight, they also amp it up to the next level, too. They get, like, a fresh shave going. They want to look their best in front of the UFC guys, like the UFC fans, because they might have to kick some ass, too. I had a UFC security guard want to kick my ass. Yeah. I would have been able to kick my ass. Big Cat went the wrong way. Twice. Everybody else went the right way. and Big Cat rejoined us and the security guard said to me, he goes, you guys did the right thing. That guy did the wrong thing. It was a bad guy.

18:07PFT Commenter:It was a sliding metal gate and everyone walked five feet one way. I walked five feet the other way. There was two entrances and he was so mad at me. I was like, dude, I'm sorry. And then I went and I did the right thing and I was looking for approval, which probably is something I need to talk to my therapist about. I was like, did you see I did it? He's like, good job.

18:25Big Cat:No, that's not what happened. Big Cat went the right way And then he's like, where's the guy that told me I went the wrong way? Yeah, I was looking for him. I got to find him. And then we all went to our seats, and Big Cat went on a mission to find the guy. And I did. And he goes, hey, did you see me? I just went around the correct way this time.

18:39PFT Commenter:And then the guy said, I don't know what you're talking about. And then my guy came up and goes, it was me. And I did. So the UFC fight. There we go. UFC fight was a great time. Wait, look at Arthur Smith before we break down UFC. Look at this. I think we just did break down UFC. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's the G spot. That's the finger. He found the G spot. He's got the finger. Yeah. Yeah. UFC 319, United Center. First of all, electric crowd.

19:03Big Cat:Great crowd.

19:04PFT Commenter:Had been six years since the UFC had come to Chicago. The place was packed. It was loud as fuck. We saw some awesome, awesome knockouts. We had back-to-back. I think Ariel Hawane tweeted it. Back-to-back spinning. Back fists. It was elbow. Elbow. Elbow knockouts. Those were the ninth and tenth ever in the UFC history. And we got two on the same night. And we got them back to back.

19:28Big Cat:That's incredible. That's like in the Super Bowl where the kicker broke the longest distance record and then five seconds later got it rebroke.

19:34PFT Commenter:Yes. And one of them, I think it was the, I want to say, was it the Prady's one or was it the second one? Max was having a good time and he just kept on saying, is it over? Is it over? As the guy was basically dead on the ground and the lights had come on. And I was like, Max, it's over. He has not moved an inch. And Max was like, is it over? Is it over?

19:56Big Cat:It was also the end of the round, so I thought maybe the end of the round could have given him a little bit of time. I like this guy, Prades, if that's how you pronounce his name. I don't know. The Brazilian guy. He smokes cigarettes. Yes. Chain smokes. Yeah. Awesome guy. That was cool. Max was having a great time. Spilled his beer all over the poor lady in front of us. I don't think I did that, by the way. Thread him the riot act, and Max turtled up. Yes, ma 'am. Yes, ma 'am.

20:20PFT Commenter:What do you guys think Kamari Uzman, who's a UFC legend, was thinking? Because he was sitting next to me. and I think he was by himself, so I kind of had to talk to him a couple times. He probably hated us.

20:30Big Cat:Well, you were asking for picks.

20:31PFT Commenter:Yeah. Well, I was like, give me a pick, and then we went deep into the DraftKings sportsbook. We did not find a pick. Yeah. He was not. I read that one wrong. He seemed like a good guy.

20:41Big Cat:I'm sure he enjoyed the company.

20:43PFT Commenter:Yeah. I just kept on turning to him whenever someone was, like, mounted. I was like, is he in trouble? He's like, oh, yeah.

20:48Big Cat:I think he was probably like, this guy knows fist, but his buddy next to him that keeps just screaming, is that guy okay?

20:54PFT Commenter:Is that guy okay? Is it over? Is it over? The lights were on. The guy had the belt on his waist, and the EMT were stretching him off. And Max was like, he could get up. I really enjoyed sitting.

21:07Big Cat:It was the end of the round. It was in between rounds. I enjoyed sitting near Max for the fights because we all know Hank is a UFC guy. He's a UFC expert. The biggest. But Max might be even more of a UFC guy. The stuff that he was screaming at the fighters was so good. He was just like, fight, fight him. Punch him. Knock him out. Punch that guy. I'm a big get him. Go. Get him. I like being next to Usman just because all the fighters would walk up and then they would show him respect. And it kind of felt like they were showing us respect, even though they had no idea who it was. It was like a stolen valor.

21:34PFT Commenter:Yeah, we were getting so much.

21:36Big Cat:We're one of these guys.

21:37PFT Commenter:Yeah, we got on the jumbotron. Yep. That was great. The shot, which was very awkward for us because the cameraman sat in front of us for about five minutes establishing the shot. And we were just all sitting there just like stiff as a board, just being like, all right, we're ready to go. And we just fought each other. He kept on pointing to his camera like, hey, idiots, I know you want to look at the Jumbotron because you can't conceptualize the fact that you're going to be up there and right here. And I was like, yeah, you're right.

22:00Big Cat:Hank, watching it back on repeat, it did look like I choked you a little excessively hard.

22:06PFT Commenter:Yeah, it's UFC.

22:07Big Cat:That's the fight game. Yeah, I really wrung your neck out a little bit.

22:11PFT Commenter:Should we talk about the championship match, the main event? I guess. Our guy, Drikus versus Hamzat. It sucked. It sucked. It sucked to watch. I know that there will be a lot of UFC fans, and we are definitely in the casual category, so we're not going to pretend we're something else. A lot of UFC fans are like, hey, that was a clinical domination, and he was dominant. Hamzat was dominant. Like, Drikus had no chance. I just think that if you take someone down for 25 minutes and wrestle him, you should have to submit them. That was my dumb rule. Or at least try to. Yeah, he only had zero submission attempts.

22:51Big Cat:Didn't really try. I think he ended up landing like 95 % of his punches, which is crazy. But they were all just like one-inch taps. Just like annoying little punches.

23:00PFT Commenter:That was the moment. So this is actually, you can come at us for being USC casuals. Usman, who was sitting next to us, what he kept on telling me was, I was like, do these little punches hurt at all? And he's like, no. He's just trying to wear him down. If he was trying to hurt him, he would be going elbows. And he's like, elbows would end this fight. He should be going elbows.

23:23Big Cat:Yeah. I mean, the only thing that looked like it hurt was when he kept kneeing Drikus right in the ass. Right in the ass.

23:29PFT Commenter:Repeating. For like 20 minutes straight.

23:30Big Cat:It was like, that fight must have sucked for Drikus. That was no fun. He got taken down the entire time and just having a dude knee your asshole for 25 minutes.

23:39PFT Commenter:And Drikus didn't have a very good game plan, it felt like, because, like, how do you – you know he's going to try to take you down. How do you not have a plan for that? It was – the round would start. Drikus would throw one or two punches. Hamzat would take him down and then he would lay on him for the next four and a half minutes and while we all were like well this is boring is he going to get choked out? Nope he's never even close to getting choked out there wasn't a moment where I was like oh here comes the tap out from Drickus no it was just let's just lay on him and he is dominant about it like this is what he does yeah it's the style Khabib, Jim they just fucking lay on people and just beat them to death in terms of strength in wrestling he is a beast out of them throw punches until they're

24:21Big Cat:15 yeah he's a beast and he's awesome at what he does and it's not fun to watch well i was reading

24:27PFT Commenter:about it more because i am am interested in it and like i know that i am uh coming at from uh uh someone who doesn't fully understand the sport so i wanted to try to like research more and people were saying that the in america when you wrestle in college wrestling you're wrestling for points so you're wrestling to try to make moves to gain points right in russia they don't have that they're wrestling simply to just dominate the person yeah and just just control their body for as long as possible until they're out and it's a style that doesn't really have a great counter

24:58Big Cat:yeah like if you're dominant at that style of fighting there's not a lot that the other guy can do about and i don't really also fights in that style the only the only way he could have possibly combated that if if he bit him if biting was allowed yeah then that would have been that

25:12PFT Commenter:would have been a good way to stop and i don't blame hamzad at all because he like he won the fight he was his title fight he won the fight fair and square it's more like do does the UFC and maybe you know when we talk to a UFC expert next like do they need to make a rule where you can't be on the ground for four and a half minutes every single round is there you know or like you have to I threw out the dumb rule that uh people didn't like that if you if you wrestle someone for 25 minutes you have to submit them like that's or you because Drick is in a weird way was impressive that he never got submitted.

25:47Big Cat:So Drikus actually almost won the fight at the very end when he got behind him for the first time in the entire fight. For a second. Tried to choke him out, and it wasn't far away from happening. That would have been the craziest finish of that fight, but there was nothing fun, nothing entertaining. There are competitors, and there's entertainers, Big Cat. I always say that. I'd like a little bit of showmanship in my UFC fights.

26:08PFT Commenter:Shador.

26:08Big Cat:Yeah, Shador should fight UFC.

26:10PFT Commenter:Yeah. The rest of the card was incredible, though. So that wasn't, it was just more that I was very hyped up for this main event. Shane and Memes you guys were sitting up top give us your thoughts

26:22Big Cat:United Center was absolutely awesome those guys I just want to say win or lose the fight just going in there being like I'm going to battle with this other dude in this arena tonight and just the best man win I did think it was awesome back to back two different fighters when they got their speech with Joe Rogan they instantly were just trying to put their boys on I'm like, Dana, you got to get my man into the UFC. I love seeing that. It was an unbelievable day.

26:48PFT Commenter:For the boys. What about you, memes? You guys went early.

26:55Big Cat:I showed up two fights before the main card. Okay. That's still early. Yeah, it's still early. I thought it was really good. I liked all the fights, even the last one. I know people didn't like it. You liked it.

27:06PFT Commenter:You enjoyed that. Yeah. You liked seeing guys just kind of.

27:09Big Cat:Just one man just completely imposing his will. I can see that. He's just an absolute killer.

27:14PFT Commenter:That part, I kind of weirdly agree with it. As boring as it was, there is something like it was something stunning about how much he ragdolled Drikus.

27:23Big Cat:Yeah, because you knew he was going to dive at him immediately just to try to get him down to the ground. And like the guy sitting next to me was like, all right, let's see how long it takes before he goes on him. And it was 20 seconds every single time.

27:34PFT Commenter:Yeah, it was almost like watching a team like just run the ball down someone's throat over and over and over. and you're like, this is boring, but holy shit, this is also impressive because they cannot stop it.

27:44Big Cat:Yeah, I respect the hell out of him. He's great at what he does. I don't necessarily like watching it.

27:49PFT Commenter:Yeah.

27:50Big Cat:And then the post fight wasn't fun.

27:53PFT Commenter:What happened? We got out. Me and me. Oh, we bolted. We actually made an incredible exit, except for the fact that we completely forgot where I parked. So we were just wandering the parking lot for a while. We left before they made the final announcement.

28:09Big Cat:if he won the fight. Yeah. So we didn't know.

28:12PFT Commenter:Yeah, we still don't know.

28:13Big Cat:There was no way to know who won that fight. We probably, yeah, Drickus could have won. The one thing that I did hear from a lot of the UFC fighters that were around us in the crowd, they got very mad when Drickus started to use his toes on the links of the octagon. You can't toe grab. You can't gain leverage using your fingers or your toes, and they got pissed about that. They were screaming cage at him. Yeah.

28:34PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah, wait, so what happened after?

28:37Big Cat:so we got uh we after the fights we got out we're like all right it's like uh not that far of a walk to the office so we're like we'll just we'll either two man or four man this walk um me and me start heading to the office it's a little bit a little bit cloudy like overcast but we should be good there's some heat lightning but nothing crazy we're getting out with the crowd and then in the like blink of an eye the most rain you've ever seen started to come down so much rain and like we didn't even have an option to like maybe hit like an underpass or like call for a car as soon as it started we were just soaked enough to where it didn't matter anymore we were

29:10PFT Commenter:just a hundred percent so you guys just walked in a normal pace we just embraced it uh shared some laughs and got back i love that i thought i was gonna die at the office i was at the office waiting for my uber like zach said it was raining so hard that you could barely see outside so i was inside the first door looking out trying to see if my uber is coming on the street and a black shadowy figure just walked up was walking up to the office like slow

29:37Big Cat:and i was like this is someone it was 11 o 'clock on saturday night i was not expecting them to be coming back and i was like oh my god this person is coming to rob the office i'm about to die and then memes got up to the door and i saw his face but the the walk they both do like it wasn't

29:53PFT Commenter:menacing and it wasn't running it was like walking through the rain like who is this shadowy figure walking through the rain to our office at 11 o 'clock on saturday night this is bad and then

30:02Big Cat:it was just it was me how does that happen with heat lightning because there was lightning every two seconds but no thunder how is that possible i don't know it's like pooping without peeing

30:13PFT Commenter:yeah it was so much rain yeah it was hard to drive how much rain it was uh yeah thanks Thanks to Danny for the seats. We were literally standing right next to the fighters as they got ready. Almost dapped up Hamzat. So, so sad. Yeah, pretty close. He went to dapp up Usman. I put my hand out there being like, me too. Oh, Drickus winked at Hank, too. Yeah, Drickus did wink at Hank. That was so sad.

30:39Big Cat:Did you wink back? No, I kind of did the turnaround. It was a surreal moment where I was like, was he looking at me?

30:44PFT Commenter:Yeah, he was. He was. He gave you a little wink.

30:46Big Cat:That's just UFC respect.

30:48PFT Commenter:Yeah. Great time, though. if you've never been to UFC live event, it is like top notch because just the crowd gets so fucking amped up crowd booze. Whenever there's like not enough action, those knockouts were awesome.

31:03Big Cat:That's the one thing we could have done differently during this fight. We could have booed harder. Yeah. If the, I feel like when the fans boo really, really loud, that's when the ref's like, okay, stand up.

31:11PFT Commenter:Yeah. Also, I went to Savannah bananas. I did the double header bananas were, were cool. I like, I don't, I don't, I know there are people who don't like the bananas. I took my son. He had a great time. The bananas were cool. The guys are awesome. We got to go in the locker room, meet all the guys. They're just regular dudes. A lot of stoolies. Great guys. Great guys. Made me think. I was seeing it because they've all played in college and stuff. Yeah. Max is never going to do the Dingers Only. Never. It's fucking crazy. It's crazy. No comment. You're just never going to do it. I don't know. No comment?

31:49PFT Commenter:Okay.

31:49Big Cat:I don't know what you want me to say here.

31:51PFT Commenter:I don't know what you're going to... I mean, it's crazy you've not done it. It's disgusting, Max. The AWL should be pissed.

31:57Big Cat:The Dinger's only challenge has been completed.

32:00PFT Commenter:What?

32:01Big Cat:You were there. Oh, shit. That's right. We actually did it earlier today. We did it this morning. It has been done. It's going to be fun. And guess what? You guys are still going to wait. It's not edited. It's not going to be edited this week. I don't know if it'll be edited next week. It was very fun. So keep getting angry about it. Max has it. He's never going to. I'm just going to hold it against you.

32:25PFT Commenter:But it has been complete. It was very, very fun. Very, very fun. Shout out to Savannah Bananas. Those guys are the best.

32:31Big Cat:We did it against the Savannah Bananas. Yes.

32:34PFT Commenter:No, really? We found a different college team in town. All right. Should we talk national sports podcast? I have two things for national sports podcast. One, Scotty Scheffler is incredible. That was an incredible comeback. Chip, his stats are he has 148 starts in the PGA Tour. He has 74 top tens. That's exactly half. Half the time he finishes top ten, he has won, what is his, 14th win in 33 starts. So including three, that's three majors, six signature events, two playoff events, one gold medal, two regular events. 14 wins and 33 starts it's crazy pretty incredible feel bad for robert mcintyre

33:21Big Cat:but it was scotty it was we all after like the second or third hole today i think everyone had a pretty good idea of what was going to happen and then sky did benny gets another trophy for his trophy case yep which is cool and then what happens next week where do we go from here top 30 oh this was the start of the playoff last week was started playoffs this was round two now it's down to the top 30 but there's no in years past years past is when they would do the like scotty would start minus 10 and it would be you know then second place minus eight and so on so forth

33:52PFT Commenter:this year no strokes so what is it now just straight up straight up one tournament so next weekend yeah is the finals yeah so scotty's gonna win that yeah otherwise he's got nothing Still had a pretty solid year. No, it's nothing. I care about the playoffs. I'm a playoffs-only guy in the PGA Tour. I'm a road-to-Dubai guy.

34:13Big Cat:You know that. That's coming. Is it? The most important golf event of the year? What if Tommy Fleetwood won the whole thing this year? I got an email from a guy today saying, bet Tommy Fleetwood to win the FedEx Cup.

34:29PFT Commenter:That would be wild, wouldn't it? You'd have to do it. I've never. It was a bizarre email. emailed you and said yeah what i how old is this guy all right this is uh rob with two b's i'm not gonna say his last name tommy will win this week and win the fedex cup take it this is not ai hank i think we have to bet it i think we got rob with two b's yeah i think i shit i've never got an email

34:58Big Cat:pick before but but we got i got this pick today because i was thinking what would be the most hilarious outcome to this it would definitely be tommy fleetwood winning this yeah and then also phil mickelson's take continues to age like fine wine oh my god oh yeah i won this year

35:12PFT Commenter:he's won everything what is it what are tommy fleetwood's odds all right we're looking up right i'm gonna bet it right now because i i think we have yeah i'm on it i'm on with two bs we gotta do it all right tommy fleetwood where the hell is the golf draft sportsbook when he When he chokes, we'll have no one to blame but ourselves. We can all agree with that. We're not even going to blame Rob.

35:38Big Cat:Yeah, we can't blame Rob. Oh, no, I'm going to blame Rob. No, we can't blame Rob with two Bs.

35:45PFT Commenter:16 to 1, Tommy Fleetwood.

35:48Big Cat:His name literally means steal. This is not going to be a good bet.

35:52PFT Commenter:Nope. And it's in 16 to 1, Tommy Fleetwood to win the FedEx Cup. Go be great, Tommy Fleetwood. This would be an all-timer.

36:03Big Cat:I was about to say I believe in you, Tommy. I do not. I believe in Rob more than Tommy. I do not believe in Tommy. Yeah.

36:09PFT Commenter:If Rob was out there playing, I would be like, we're going to win this.

36:12Big Cat:This is going to be something that it's going to be a good bet because he's going to get down to like plus 300 at some point, plus 200. We'll be a great bet. And then he's going to lose.

36:20PFT Commenter:Yeah. And then my other national sports podcast topic was Rob Manfred saying today that the expansion of MLB is on the horizon and they might realign the leagues. Why? I think that he was saying that it's for putting like the teams closer together for wear and tear. I don't know. Shut the fuck up. Get the fuck out of my clubhouse. Rob. I actually think they should do the opposite. They should get rid of interleague play or just interleague play was like was awesome when it started, but now it's everyone plays everyone one series.

36:56Big Cat:Dial it back, but don't get rid of it. I liked it when they did like two or three weekends. Yeah, it was like a three-week stretch.

37:02PFT Commenter:Now it's just random, and it doesn't make, you know, it doesn't feel as special. It doesn't feel special at all. Yeah, yeah.

37:07Big Cat:So would he get rid of the National League and the American League?

37:10PFT Commenter:I don't know if he would get rid of the National League and the American League, but I think he would just try to group teams closer together. Okay. They should make, they should. Like the, you know, the A's being in the AL and the Giants being in the NL. flip it so that they play more, I would assume. So we might add, some teams might switch. I guess they play the City Series, so that doesn't make sense. But like the Angels and the Dodgers, or the Angels and the Padres. So one of those two teams would switch. Right. And maybe the Mets and Yankees would be in the same division, which that would, I feel like that would be a mistake.

37:45PFT Commenter:Yeah. I think that would be a mistake. But they're trying to do everything to.

37:50Big Cat:He was saying this for like TV deals because they want to get more like, west coast tv games that make sense so it's not like a's red socks playing at 10 o 'clock at night

38:03PFT Commenter:east coast time it would be like a's dot right so it's all yeah the uh the nba is actually doing the reverse you see that they're doing a uh like coast to coast where they're going to push back the west coast games to 11 p.m eastern time i i don't hate it for fans of the team that like

38:22Big Cat:A lot of times if you're a Lakers fan or if you're a fan of any team on the West Coast, you have to start watching the games while you're at work. When they're playing on the East Coast, yeah. Yeah, I don't necessarily love that. Yeah. But yeah, he's just trying to get more ratings. I get it.

38:37PFT Commenter:Yeah. Okay. We have anything else before we do who's back of the week?

38:41Big Cat:Yeah. Oh, yeah, go ahead. There's realignment talk. Not realignment, but expanded playoff talk in college football. Yes.

38:49PFT Commenter:Yes.

38:49Big Cat:So the Big Ten is having conversations. Per Pete Thamel, the idea is in very early stages. The Big Ten wants to keep the conference races meaningful and make November regular season football meaningful across the leagues. So they're thinking about expanding to 24 or 28 teams for the college football playoff. Don't want it. That's a lot of teams to make the playoffs. Don't want it. Don't want it. That's a lot. They kind of already have a regular season. The problem. Which is a great big triple elimination playoff.

39:19PFT Commenter:Right. I think the problem they're having is they don't want to give up the conference championship games, but they probably kind of have to.

39:25Big Cat:I think we're going to get rid of conference championship games.

39:28PFT Commenter:But I don't want this. I was fine with 12. I do think there's seasons when you can have those teams from that 6-8 range where they're peaking at the right time and this could be interesting. 24, no thank you.

39:44Big Cat:I think what we learned from last year's college football playoff is that the worst-seeded teams, it's very unlikely that they're going to beat the best teams.

39:53PFT Commenter:No, no. Yeah, I mean, and they did change the seating, so it makes sense this year. But yeah, there's always been an argument to be had that, like, you know, Ohio State last year, they wouldn't have been in the college football playoff. You're letting them get another crack at it, which I'm okay with, but I just don't. 24 is too many.

40:12Big Cat:Yeah, I think 12 is fine. Yeah, they wouldn't have been in the 14 playoff. No. But there's 12 good teams in this country.

40:18PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah, there are. Let them go for it. Find those 12 good teams. Yeah, this would suck. I disavow. As a Big Ten guy, I disavow Big Ten. Don't do this. It also felt like a trial balloon.

40:29Big Cat:Yeah, of course. Like they told Pete, hey, run with this. Yeah. And just say that we're having conversations about it. See what the general, see which way the wind's blowing.

40:36PFT Commenter:Just keep pushing and pushing.

40:37Big Cat:Yeah.

40:38PFT Commenter:They're going to keep pushing and pushing. Is Zach Wheeler done for the year?

40:43Big Cat:I don't know.

40:45PFT Commenter:Twitter doctor.

40:46Big Cat:I saw a Twitter doctor that says yes, but I don't know. Blood clot sounds bad. It is bad, yeah. Yeah, it's definitely bad. That sounds like something that is really bad. In his shoulder. Yeah.

41:00PFT Commenter:Oh, you need your shoulder. For pitching?

41:05Big Cat:Yeah. No, I think he's probably done for the year, which means that the Phillies are probably done. Hank hates that I do Brewers did finally lose

41:16PFT Commenter:They did It's good Barely I was kinda I'm happy the Brewers lost Because the Cubs also won And for the first time in like What feels like a month The Cubs actually gained a game I did kinda want them to win Like finally I wanted There was a game I was rooting for the Brewers to win Because I wanted the Cubs to beat them on Monday And have the Cubs bookend the winning streak Because the last time they had lost before today was the Cubs, and then we played them five games. But yeah, the Brewers finally lost. I mean, it was incredible. They just won every game. They were down 8-1 on Friday, and then you blinked and it was 9-8.

41:51Big Cat:And then on Saturday, taking it to extras, the Brewers, they're fun to watch, man. I like the Brewers. Fuck the Brewers. They never lose. But they did lose today.

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43:53Big Cat:The Premier League is back. The Premier League. So for the blokes, football is back as well. Good for them. A little earlier than us.

44:00PFT Commenter:Premier League prediction.

44:03Big Cat:Tottenham.

44:03PFT Commenter:No. No. Really? Yeah, it's their year. Okay, okay. Is that just the first team that came to your mind? Yes. Okay. Is there a second team that comes to your mind?

44:17Big Cat:Man City.

44:18PFT Commenter:Okay. That feels like maybe a safer bet. Is Man City going to get penalized?

44:23Big Cat:For what? Saudis? They had some big-time salary infringements. almost to the point where they might get pushed down to the championship. Probably not. Like relegated.

44:36PFT Commenter:Probably not. Liverpool is the favorite. Tottenham. Do we see Tottenham? Where's Tottenham? Oh yeah. Alright. Yeah, six favorites. Okay.

44:48Big Cat:What part of London is Liverpool in? Liverpool... I don't know.

44:55PFT Commenter:What part of London? South. Yeah. Yeah. You got it. Actual? South. Yeah. What about Man City? Center. Center. What about? You're right.

45:07Big Cat:Nottingham Forest. That's not London. Okay. Yeah.

45:12PFT Commenter:But Manchester City and Liverpool are in London.

45:15Big Cat:Yep. Are these trick questions? No. You got the one right. We gave you one that was a trick that you got right. The other are big time. Yeah. Big time Londoners. Also, the... It's not an international sports podcast. The British ambassador... What do you think Manchester stands for?

45:37PFT Commenter:It's a city.

45:39Big Cat:Okay. No, Man City is the name of the team.

45:41PFT Commenter:Yeah, Manchester City.

45:42Big Cat:Right.

45:44PFT Commenter:Manchester, England. In London. Whatever. You know what I meant. I'm not sure that I do. I don't think I do. Does London have any teams? Yeah. London has a lot of teams. like Man United.

45:59Big Cat:They've got Fulham. Wrexham is in London. No, Arsenal and Tottenham.

46:06PFT Commenter:Exactly. Yeah, there we go. You got it. Also, the British ambassador to the U.S. is pushing for a Super Bowl in London. Yeah, I am down for.

46:14Big Cat:Fuck you. Fuck you. You're a piece of shit. You're a piece of shit. We fought a war back in 1776 to keep our football American.

46:24PFT Commenter:Suck our dicks from the back, bro. What's the difference between London and Vegas? Vacation. This is Hank. No, no, no. All right. This is Hank golf vacation? One. Oh, my God. Two, this is Hank being a fucking anti-pussy liberal fuck because he wants the Super Bowl to happen like six hours earlier so it's a little less football. Is that true?

46:47Big Cat:No, I just think London would be a cool city for a big story about that. Oh, shut up.

46:50PFT Commenter:Dude, if they put this in London. Better than San Francisco. What?

46:55Big Cat:He's saying about us going, which would be fun. It would be fun if we went to London. Not really. I'd like to stay in America for... No, I'm on your... It's America, dude. Great content.

47:04PFT Commenter:It's our fucking Super Bowl. The game... They play the game at fucking... You want to watch Super Bowl at noon? I'm just saying... At noon? I understand what Hank is saying in a travel aspect. He's being selfish. That would be a fun trip personally for... Well, guess what? We got a... For the good of America, it's bad. We got millions of AWLs who listen to this that aren't going to go to London. So we can't be like, oh, we want it because of the... No, we got to speak for the people. No, I will say right now... I do not want to go to London. Millions of listeners don't go to the Super Bowl every year either.

47:33Big Cat:Yeah, but I don't want to... A small group of fans of the team that are in it go. I don't even want to go to London.

47:38PFT Commenter:No.

47:38Big Cat:I don't want to go to London. Listen, late January, early February, it's a very important time for America. Dude, what are you doing right now?

47:48PFT Commenter:I'm disgusted. How about the Pro Bowl? I'm disgusted. I just think it'd be cool. Sorry. I think it'd be cool. fun week you can't give up our super bowl it's our crowning achievement as a society we're gonna have a team there like we don't have much left in this in this world in this country everyone's doom and gloom it's the super bowl that's ours don't you want football that overtakes soccer is the biggest sport in the world no no i don't give a fuck it's more i honestly don't care if if other countries watch football or not like this whole like global expansion of football do not care. I watch football with my friends in America.

48:26PFT Commenter:I don't give a fuck what they watch over there.

48:28Big Cat:The bigger football gets, the bigger this podcast gets, and that's what I want. No, you want a golf vacation in England? No. I will say

48:37PFT Commenter:shout out our AWLs across the country. That was a good point for Hank. I do like the

48:43Big Cat:English AWLs. Don't give up our fucking Super Bowl. I feel like English AWL is like, do you really want the Super Bowl? Is that something that you want over there?

48:50PFT Commenter:My answer is actually, now I'm going to correct my answer. I like everyone who watches football right now. I don't need any new fans. So if you watch it now in London and you're in AWL, you're cool. I fuck with you. No new fans.

49:05Big Cat:I wouldn't hate a couple new ones. Why would?

49:09PFT Commenter:Are they cool?

49:10Big Cat:Yeah, they're for sure. Yeah, it's needed some exposure to the sport. Like imagine London who's watching the Jags. No, no, no. They get the Jaguars and Panthers. That's what they get. Yeah, Jaguars, Panthers. That's what they get.

49:23PFT Commenter:And they get to see. Here's the deal. Put a team in London. That's fine. They're going to do it eventually. Just fucking get over with. When they win a Super Bowl, then maybe. You're going to win one to get one. I don't like it. I don't like the idea of a Super Bowl going over there. Dude, think about the turf's going to be fucked up.

49:40Big Cat:We've already done that. It's going to be raining. You know it's going to be raining. It's going to be raining. They have domes, don't they? Yeah, but you're going to be out in the rain the entire time. I went to a game in London. Eagles-Jags. It was great. What stadium?

49:53PFT Commenter:Manchester City?

49:55Big Cat:Wembley. Oh. That's cool. It was fun. The Brits loved their football. They got super excited. There was a million different jerseys. A million different jerseys. Yeah. The Super Bowl is going to be filled with Jaguars fans. No. It was not just Jaguars fans. It was like the most random teams. And then you would ask them, why are you fans of that? And they're like, I don't know.

50:16PFT Commenter:Think about it's the Super Bowl That's ours

50:21Big Cat:It's a neutral site event It's not neutral

50:26PFT Commenter:It's gotta be here It has to be It's the Super Bowl

50:32Big Cat:Yeah let's bring it to the world Then you're gonna get all the travel And weird shit And time zones It's gonna be a big pain in the ass

50:41PFT Commenter:And again if they try to start the Super Bowl at noon I'm gonna fucking riot That's crazy. That's crazy. What if the Bears were in it? You could go. Now you're just speaking crazier. If we were to do... Caleb looked good. What time would we have to put this show up? Six out of ten. He was six out of ten. Yeah, Max, think about that. I think we would have to do it. Don't be selfish. You guys are thinking about yourselves. I'm thinking about the sport. All right, what courses would you play? I don't even know. Yeah, come on. Come on. What courses would you play? Give them to us. I don't know what courses are near London.

51:21PFT Commenter:I clearly don't know anything about London, the geography, and what's near or not. The old course? Let's go to the old course.

51:27Big Cat:You just threw that out there, huh? Would you even be able to bet on the Super Bowl over there?

51:32PFT Commenter:Yeah, they have betting shops.

51:33Big Cat:Yeah, but what about DraftKings?

51:36PFT Commenter:Max has an interactive time zone map, and it's going to break his brain. I think it's six hours ahead. I'm trying to think of what.

51:43Big Cat:But if we wanted to get the show out by like 5 a.m. Eastern. It would have to come out at 11 p.m., I think. You'd have plenty of time. So we would just have to record the show super early. It'd be the same. No.

51:58PFT Commenter:No, they'd probably. That's been my point, Max. They'd probably play the Super Bowl at like 6 p.m. London time, which would be like noon, which would be crazy. About 9 p.m. You think they play it that late? I don't know. I don't know how London rolls. 8 p.m. Compromise? We're not a time zone podcast. We're not a time zone. We never have been a time zone podcast.

52:20Big Cat:I don't like it. I don't like the idea one bit. I don't either. We have plenty of... Wait, wait, wait. I want to... Wait, put your mic on. I got to hear the memes.

52:28PFT Commenter:Memes of Max. We recorded at one o 'clock in the afternoon. You'd have more time to do the podcast. Keep the mics on and do your conversation. I want to see... What you were just about to say, you're talking to him like he's four, but we're all four here.

52:40Big Cat:So the time of the Super Bowl that it normally is, it'll just be on London time. So the time here. No, it wouldn't.

52:47PFT Commenter:You think that's right. No, the time here will be the same. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Max.

52:52Big Cat:So you'll have the same amount of time that you normally have at the Super Bowl. You'd have more time.

52:56PFT Commenter:No, we'd have more time. Yes, the Super Bowl is played at 6 p.m. here, right? They would play it at 6 p.m. in London, which would mean it's noon here.

53:05Big Cat:So it'd be over early here. so we would have so much time to get to the bottom. Yeah, Max is on my side. Max is on my side.

53:11PFT Commenter:Let's go to London.

53:13Big Cat:But what about the rest of the week? Does that mean that we would have to record at noon? Yeah. Like noon London time? This is just a complete personal problem. No, they're ahead of us, dude.

53:27PFT Commenter:They're ahead of us. Do you realize they're ahead of us? No. If we recorded at 10 p.m. There's 24 hours in every day. If we recorded 10 p.m. London time. No matter where you are. It'd be 4 o 'clock back here. What don't you understand about this? The podcast would still come out the next day.

53:46Big Cat:I don't know. We're telling you. You would have more time to put the podcast. Yes. You have the same amount of time. And it would come out at the same time. Yes.

53:57PFT Commenter:They're five hours ahead. You're pretending like we're going to Hawaii. If we were in Hawaii and we tried to record at midnight, it would already be too late for it to come out on time. Got it. Got it. Got it. The Super Bowl is on Sunday. The podcast comes out on Monday. But we're going the other way. So if we record at night, it's actually still middle of the afternoon here.

54:18Big Cat:So we're good. What if a team that made the Super Bowl didn't have their passports and they couldn't go? They have a Philly bar in London. It's sick. Hard Rock? It's called like Passy. I think it's called Passyunk. Oh, my God.

54:32PFT Commenter:That was one of the dumbest. if we almost lost Max there he almost went into like a black hole

54:41Big Cat:no it was going to be all I was thinking about the entire time

54:45PFT Commenter:now I kind of want to go just to see Max deal with the time zone terrible idea

54:50Big Cat:we have lots of good stadiums right here in America yeah I'm staying strong with you I agree PFC

54:56PFT Commenter:we should just send Max there to just just be a fan ambassador Max just have him sit in a hotel room and have to upload the podcast. We'll record it from here, and then we'll send it to him and be like, get it out on time. I would never be able to figure it out.

55:12Big Cat:The three weeks leading up to the Super Bowl, we'd have to do this podcast on London time here so that Max could prepare for it.

55:19PFT Commenter:Yeah, when would we go? We'd have to decide as a team. Do we go right before? Do we go a week early to get acclimated? Yeah, definitely. Fuck you, Nick. I want a list of your top three courses you want to play.

55:31Big Cat:All right, I'll look some up. Just be transparent. You know none of them are in London. Yeah. Just be transparent. They're all in Scotland. They're all alone. I know. Listen, you guys have this idea that all I think about is golf, and this one was not one of those situations. It's just mostly what I think about. Okay, good who's back. Be driving on the wrong side of the road. Georgia football would have a blast. Matthew Broderick.

55:52PFT Commenter:Yeah. People forget. Killed Kai. Woman. Mm-hmm. All right. Your who's back, PFT.

55:59Big Cat:My who's back of the week is the NCAA. Because they took their sweet time and they finally released the list of punishments that they're going to do for the University of Michigan because of the alleged cheating scandal with Connor Stallions. So they're going to be fined$50 ,000. They're going to be fined a 10 % fine on the entire football program's budget, a 10 % fine on Michigan's 2025 and 2026 scholarships, and a fine matching the projected loss of the postseason revenue for 2025-2026, which is going to be a significant amount of money, I think. And then they hit Connor Stallions with an eight-year show-cause penalty.

56:39Big Cat:They hit Jim Harbaugh with a 10-year show-cause penalty, meaning he's not going to be eligible to coach in college football pretty much for the rest of his life. They're just saying, okay, you're not going to be a college coach anymore. They said that Harbaugh never turned over any emails or text messages. then he refused to be interviewed by the ncaa enforcement staff he ain't a rat so they didn't have a full record of all the interactions or all the transgressions that they had and then connor stallions destroyed his iphone and threw it into a pond which is great operational security on connor stallions part and then he also was not cooperating fully with the board so they just said okay we're going to throw as much as we can at him uh harbaugh or one of his staff members called the University of Michigan's own compliance office, Scum and the Enemy, which I love.

57:27Big Cat:It's Toby from The Office. The way Michael Scott thought about Toby was how Harbaugh thought about his own compliance office. This whole thing, and having watched the Conor Stallions documentary recently, just reinforced me where I'm so glad that this man became a football fan and did not get into politics, did not get into any social movement. Manifesto. His brain, I'm so thankful every single day that he just thought nothing but football.

57:54PFT Commenter:And the only real punishment was Sean Moore got suspended for a game.

57:57Big Cat:Yeah, so one additional game. Michigan self-imposed a two-game ban on their head coach.

58:02PFT Commenter:Which doesn't start until week three against Central Michigan.

58:07Big Cat:Right, so weeks one and two, they have New Mexico and Oklahoma.

58:11PFT Commenter:Yeah.

58:11Big Cat:And they did not want their head coach to be absent for the Oklahoma game. Correct. So they said, we'll take week three and four instead. that's Central Michigan and Nebraska, which is very disrespectful to Nebraska that they were like, okay, we'll rather have that one. But, I mean, it's Oklahoma. You've got to have your coach for Oklahoma. So, really, all the Ohio State fans are upset that the NCAA didn't really do anything. I think what Ohio State wanted was to have their championship vacated. I think in their wildest dreams.

58:41PFT Commenter:Or at least get gold pants for those years.

58:44Big Cat:That's what Buckeyes fans wanted. They wanted the championship expunged like Louisville, but instead they just kind of slapped him with financial penalties and suspended a bunch of coaches that won't be coaching there anymore.

58:57PFT Commenter:Yeah.

58:58Big Cat:But Conor Stallions, I'd say it worked.

59:01PFT Commenter:Yeah. He got him back to the promised land. I'd say mission accomplished by Conor Stallions. I'd agree. I'd agree. Yeah, the whole thing was like, okay, so the New Mexico game now? Yeah. Ohio State's fans are mad. in the history of college football, I would say Michigan probably wasn't the first team that cheated in any way. They won a title. You can't. This is why I hated the Louisville ruling. You can't just pretend something didn't happen. If you're an Ohio State fan, you could basically take this whole ruling and put an asterisk next to them forever, which that's totally fair to do in fandom.

59:36PFT Commenter:But you can't be like, oh, yeah, there was no national champion that year. We're vacating it. It's like we watched it. It happened.

59:41Big Cat:It happened. And then after they got caught and Connor Stallions was kicked off the team and Harbaugh was, they kept winning.

59:47PFT Commenter:Yeah.

59:48Big Cat:So if you're going to cheat, you got to be the best at cheating. And Michigan, I think, was probably the best. Connor Stallions was there. And everybody, Connor Stallions referred to his own guys as the KGB, which is awesome. That rocks. I was dialed in. He was dialed in. He was really, really good at what he did. And I think a lot of other teams were trying to do similar things. They just had a fucking operation around it.

1:00:08PFT Commenter:Yeah. I did like the one story that came out that Sharon Moore, like, part of the reason he was spending it is because he deleted all his text messages with Connor Stallions, and at first he tried to say he was doing that for storage. Yeah, clear out the iPhone. It's like, come on, dude.

1:00:23Big Cat:It's like uploading all your good pics to Instagram. You got a photo dump so I can delete these later.

1:00:27PFT Commenter:Yeah, this one guy. Okay, my Who's Back of the Week. We should have mentioned this when we're talking golf, but creatine, because Ben Griffin was six over after three holes on Sunday at the BMW, and he said that it was because he overdosed on creatine.

1:00:42Big Cat:All right, so that can happen. Yeah. You know what happens when you overdose on creatine.

1:00:46PFT Commenter:He drank the whole rock, he said. He never swallowed one of the big rocks before. You just shit your brains out.

1:00:51Big Cat:Yeah. It's just like full-on liquid just getting blasted out of your B-hole.

1:00:56PFT Commenter:So, yeah, he six over after three holes, and then I think he finished strong, right? He came back. He finished strong. He's got like first time taking creatine or anything in his life because he talks about creatine all the time. Ah. Like he added. True believer. Added five to ten yards of distance this year and it's all creatine. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, don't overdose on creatine. Also, who's back of the week is ESPN just embarrassing themselves because that Chador Sanders, Deion Sanders, or Barry Sanders clip was something. Mm-hmm. Drew's Keeps wearing a number 20 blue jersey. Brutal. Brutal. Mistakes happen, though.

1:01:40PFT Commenter:Yeah, it happens. It's live TV. We make mistakes all the time. We just did 10 minutes trying to figure out time zones. Yeah. It happens.

1:01:49Big Cat:I called him Bernie Sanders one time instead of Barry Sanders.

1:01:51PFT Commenter:Yeah. It happens. All right, Zach, who's back of the week?

1:01:55Big Cat:In the most respectful way possible, my who's back of the week is Jamie Lee Curtis.

1:01:59PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. Cannon. Oh, man. She brought out the heavies. Oh, my God. I did not know she still had that. Where? On TikTok. Freakier Friday promo.

1:02:12Big Cat:And Disney, they just let her go with it.

1:02:14PFT Commenter:She dumped them.

1:02:16Big Cat:Good for her. Love that for her.

1:02:18PFT Commenter:How old is she? Good for her.

1:02:21Big Cat:Jamie Lee Curtis, I believe, is 66. I made a mistake. Oh, my God. Incredible. Let me double check.

1:02:26PFT Commenter:Way to go, Jamie Lee.

1:02:29Big Cat:Senior division. 66.

1:02:31PFT Commenter:They are heavy. Heavies. They could suffocate us. Damn. You could go 55 into some cement if those are in front of you. You're surviving.

1:02:48Big Cat:Yeah, that's going to be good. Max, are you attracted at all to that?

1:02:52PFT Commenter:Yeah, no, those are good. Put that on a quote card. Yeah, they are good. Max's reviews is Jamie Lee Curtis's breasts. Yeah, yeah. No, those are good. Babies are going to watch that and be like, do not change the channel. Good for her. You like to see an older woman in Hollywood still doing it. Yeah. Great promo. Yeah, great promo. We're talking Freaky Friday? Freaky Friday. Freaky Friday. We're talking about it right now. Incredible promo. Yeah. It's like, I know what we'll do. Jamie Lee, do you want to go on Pardon My Take? No, I don't like those guys. What if you just showed a little cleavage?

1:03:31PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah, they'll talk about it. We've done some research on social media, and it turns out showing cleavage returns more views and likes interactions. She was really trying to show it, too. Tits are back, dude. Tits are back. Like the Sydney Sweeney ads, they're back. So misogynistic of you, Max. It feels good to have tits back. It's like you can just let them fly, and we're not going to judge. We're going to say congrats. What do you say, Zach?

1:03:59Big Cat:Tits couldn't be more back.

1:04:01PFT Commenter:Hell yeah. Hell yeah, Zach.

1:04:05Big Cat:Respectfully, of course.

1:04:09PFT Commenter:Any dates?

1:04:12Big Cat:I have not gone on a second date.

1:04:15PFT Commenter:We'll move on from that. That's fine. Jamie Lee Curtis, though. Yeah. Oh, what was that? You just pointed up to God? I was being respectful. Just kissed your fingers and went to, you got a little Sammy Sosa on us. All right. All right, let's do our Mount Rushmore. Okay, before we get to Mount Rushmore PFT, you got a quick word from Chevy.

1:04:39Big Cat:Brought to you by Chevy and the Chevy Silverado. For over a century, Chevy's been building trucks that don't flinch, they never quit. Whether you're hauling lumber on the job or trying to get the smoker, the cooler, the cornhole boards, and the whole crew to the tailgate on time. Chevy gets you there. When Chevy says most dependable truck, they're not just speculating. Chevy trucks have earned more dependability awards for trucks than any other brand, according to J.D. Power 2025. Sounds like they've got the stats to prove it. We're always driving a Chevy Silverado when we're out on trips. If we're in Tahoe, if we're on Grit Week, we're getting the Chevy Silverado.

1:05:12Big Cat:Beautiful truck, inside and out, huge bed, mega bed, I would say. Mega bed. Chevy Silverado has a mega bed, and it is also awesome on the inside. Feels like you're riding in a luxurious car, and on the outside, it is the strongest truck. It's the fullback of trucks. Shout out to Chevy sponsoring the Lomann Award yet again this year. Shout out fullbacks. In every Chevy truck, dependability comes standard. For more on Chevy trucks, visit Chevy.com and visit JDPower.com slash awards. Get more award details.

1:05:41PFT Commenter:Okay, Mount Rushmore time. By the way, I forgot to bring this up. do we have any concerns so this week we're going to Barstool Camp Jerry O 'Connell is coming with us we will have our NFL fantasy football preview on Friday with Jerry O 'Connell in person Jerry O 'Connell sent me a text today and it made me a little nervous I want you guys to just tell me what you're thinking it was an Instagram and it just said her reaction when I tell her I went RB, RB, RB in the first three rounds of my draft. And it's just... It's just a little clip of a movie and being like, you're wild, you're wild.

1:06:27Big Cat:Is he gonna go RB, RB, RB? No, I think he thinks that's really funny because it's like an inside fancy football. I think he's deep in the memes. I feel like that's a trial

1:06:36PFT Commenter:balloon. He's gonna go... He might go three RBs.

1:06:40Big Cat:I don't think that we should give him the power to do that. I think he has to clear that with Adam Shafter and Taylor Swift.

1:06:45PFT Commenter:I know that Jerry is, listen, we're going to get to his fantasy preview on Friday, but I've got my eyes wide open, Jerry. I think there's a chance he might sabotage his team this year because we've kind of messed with him. I know.

1:07:03Big Cat:I think he takes it too seriously to sabotage. I think he might go all RB. I doubt it. I think Jerry - Which actually would be kind of a genius strategy because then everyone has to trade with you. No, but Jerry, he cares about it way too much. This is a put up or shut up here. Okay. We've got Jerry on the hot seat. All right.

1:07:18PFT Commenter:All right.

1:07:19Big Cat:All right. Because it'd also be funny if he's sabotaged. All right.

1:07:24PFT Commenter:Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore of worst smells. No. What?

1:07:33Big Cat:Sounds. You said smells.

1:07:34PFT Commenter:Sounds. I said smells. Sounds. Worst sounds. I was like, holy shit. Did I fuck that up? Bad sounds. I didn't fuck it up. I mean, worst sounds, bad sounds. Bad sounds? Worse sounds. Worse sounds. Worse sounds, yeah. Same thing. Yeah, worse sounds, bad sounds. Bad sounds. Worse slash bad sounds. Not good sounds.

1:07:50Big Cat:The Mount Rushmore of bad sounds would be the worst sounds. So either way. Bad sounds is fine. Worse sounds works as well. Worse sounds. Time zones. Let's do worse sounds. We're firing, boys. Unpleasant sounds.

1:08:03PFT Commenter:What are the standings?

1:08:06Big Cat:The standings are Big Cat and Zach, 41. Me and Max, 37. PFT and Hank, 36. Okay. And I believe there are eight left.

1:08:15PFT Commenter:Okay. Wait, eight?

1:08:18Big Cat:Maybe not a math guy, but I think eight.

1:08:20PFT Commenter:Six? We don't usually do it week. Do we do it week of Labor Day?

1:08:25Big Cat:I believe the duel was that week.

1:08:27PFT Commenter:Yeah, but that was overtime. There's a duel.

1:08:29Big Cat:What if there's a duel?

1:08:30PFT Commenter:We usually end at Labor Day. I thought we always did Wednesday. If there's a duel between four people, is that still called a duel? Yeah, no. It would be the showdown at what was the Tiger vs. Phil? The match? No, that was like the original one, the showdown at something. Valhalla? I don't know. We should decide this right now. We usually just finish it. I think it's usually the end of – like Labor Day is the end of Mount Rushmore season. Yeah. Because we're talking – we're going to have a Tuesday, Wednesday show that's college football. I agree to that. I think the last – Unless there's a duel.

1:09:04Big Cat:The last full week without football, last full week before Labor Day. Correct. That is the end of Mount Rushmore. That Friday's episode will be the last Mount Rushmore. If there's a quadruel, or whatever we're calling it, then we're going to do one extra one on that Tuesday coming back from Labor Day. Correct. Correct. The duel was so fun.

1:09:24PFT Commenter:The duel was so fun. So fun.

1:09:26Big Cat:What did we do? Green? Green. Mount Rushmore moments was one of them. Mm-hmm. Because I didn't pick the pizza toppings. God, the duel. I would love another duel. And it was rapid fire. It was crazy. Yeah, off the dome. Yeah. All right. And then Hank lost. Mount Rushmore worst sounds. Who's up? We go first. Okay. We go first on Mondays. Yes, Hank.

1:09:52PFT Commenter:You got that. That's important. I got the ball. Oh.

1:09:54Big Cat:I got the ball. All right. You're a team. We are a team. Yeah. But we pass the ball. Okay. That's what good teams do. Mm-hmm. We're going to go 1-1. Nails on chalkboard. That might be a chalky pick. Okay. It's a good pick. Everyone hates that sound.

1:10:12PFT Commenter:Big Cat doesn't think so at all.

1:10:14Big Cat:I didn't have it on my list. It's a jockey pick. It's a jockey pick. Okay. It is a bad sound. It's a bad sound. It's the expression. No, it's a bad sound. Maybe the worst sound.

1:10:22PFT Commenter:Yeah, it's a bad sound. How many times have you listened to Nails on a chalkboard? Not really. I don't think they make chalkboards anymore. Yeah, they don't. Well. Whiteboards. Because of the nail. Big Cat and PFT were in school. Okay. That was your own guy. That was some shrapnel that you caught there. That's all right. He had to take a shot at me, and he had to. This is how our team operates. Okay. Max, memes.

1:10:48Big Cat:Memes got the ball today. Okay. We are going to do 60 minutes after the 4 o 'clock games. Okay. We had that, too. We had it.

1:10:55PFT Commenter:Yep. Sunday scaries. All right. I think we're good. We're going to just go with ours, right? Yes, sir. Okay. Wait. We're going to go 2-3? 2-3. Okay.

1:11:11PFT Commenter:alarm to wake up sonar especially the fucking worst hate that sound so much or if you're in

1:11:19Big Cat:zach's case it's just a siren we had to get the mega alarm yeah because of previous alarm

1:11:24PFT Commenter:alarm to wake up is just it is the worst feeling in the world every morning uh and then uh baby crying on an airplane is just a horrific sound and i it's bad but i also know that the parents trying their best. Yeah. Fuck. It sucks.

1:11:39Big Cat:If I'm in the spot with a crying baby I've gotten to the point where now I just feel worse for the parents of the baby because I know how bad they feel. And guess what? Baby's gonna cry.

1:11:47PFT Commenter:Yeah. We almost did baby crying in the middle of the night but that is very specific. It's your baby so it's a little different. Baby crying on an airplane like that sucks for everyone else. But it is a very bad sound to have a baby cry in the middle of the night because you're like shit. Okay. You guys are up? Yep. This is one of those sounds you don't realize how bad it is until it's happening.

1:12:10Big Cat:Driving on the highway, one window down. Oh, the ear. Terrible. I hate that. Terrible.

1:12:17PFT Commenter:Great pick. Yep, great pick. Great pick. Great pick. All right, so we get two picks. My kids love to put the windows down. It fucks me up every time. All right. Okay, I'm good.

1:12:32Big Cat:Oh, Hank, you okay? Mm-hmm. Why are you wincing? You're not like nails on a shock book? You're pre-wincing.

1:12:38PFT Commenter:I'm listening. I'm excited. I can't look.

1:12:42Big Cat:Okay. We're going to go knives and forks on a plate, scratching it up, and then Tony Romo. Just Tony Romo.

1:12:52PFT Commenter:Okay.

1:12:54Big Cat:Anything specific that Tony Romo? I don't know.

1:12:58PFT Commenter:Okay. How are you feeling about this draft? Jim. I feel great. I think it's great. There's still a lot of value on the board.

1:13:06Big Cat:Big Cat is trying to instill a hatred towards it. Yep. Off what have all been great picks. I'm asking you.

1:13:11PFT Commenter:No, I like the Tony Romo pick. I agree. I agree completely. I like the Tony Romo pick.

1:13:15Big Cat:Big Cat right now is in the mode of, I'm going to pretend that these are bad picks. He wants me to say. Well, Nails on Chalkboard was a bad pick. He wants me to say Tony Romo was a bad pick. Nails on Chalkboard is. I like Tony Romo pick. The very definition of a bad sound is Nails on Chalkboard. But again, you never hear it anymore.

1:13:29PFT Commenter:Yeah. Nails on Chalkboard.

1:13:31Big Cat:I can't believe you guys are trying to gaslight us and the audience. It's like, what is the most relatable bad sound? It's a Reddit ass pic.

1:13:38PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah. Good point. Reddit ass pic. Reddit ass pic. Reddit ass. It's an expression.

1:13:44Big Cat:It is literally the expression. Maxi Mountain, crack you dump out. I've seen some ass pics of you recently. Tony Romo, that was a good one. That was a good one. Tony Romo's a good one.

1:13:53PFT Commenter:We all on this podcast do not like hearing Tony Romo's voice. What about knives on a plate? That's three great picks. Knives and forks on a plate. Doesn't really bother me. Really bad. Me neither. But it's really bad. Really bad. Hank, there it is. It doesn't bother you. Not that much, no.

1:14:15Big Cat:There was one that we... Hank said that knives and forks don't bother him as much as nails on a chocolate.

1:14:19PFT Commenter:I appreciate your honesty because Zach, and I don't know if it will get picked, but you can talk about it in honorable mentions. There was a pick that Zach wanted to pick, and I said it does not bother me at all. I cannot pick it.

1:14:26Big Cat:I think everyone else I have a personal one that is like Same Just for me I do too I feel like everyone has those Yeah That'll be good Honorable mention talk

1:14:36PFT Commenter:Okay you guys are up Uh Violent throw up That's the pick that I couldn't pick I always find throw up very funny Same I can't I cannot I could not pick it We had the conversation Zach was like I want to pick this I was like dude I can't good conscious Because if someone's throwing up I laugh my fucking ass off Every time You're weird about You're so weird about you. It's brain molded by jackass.

1:15:00Big Cat:I do think watching a video of someone throwing up is way... If someone is in the same room as you throwing up, it's like I can't be there. It's one of those things where the smell is so much worse than the sound. It's like somebody taking a nasty shit.

1:15:15PFT Commenter:I don't know. If there's a... That was our next pick. I think you're up. Okay, yeah. Yeah. Our next pick is someone taking a massive shit next to you in a stall. I think that's funny. How is that funny? That's the same thing where I think the smell is going to get you. The sound, not that bad. Oh, I hate the sound. When you know they're about to just go to work and you're like, God damn it, I'm stuck. You got to hurry up. So someone taking a massive shit next to you when you're in a stall is our next pick. Zach, we got one last pick.

1:15:48Big Cat:How do you feel about six or nine?

1:15:52PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah, yeah. Let's go six. I like six. We're going to go with loud chewing. Yeah, loud chewing. Okay. Drives you nuts. Mouth open? Yep. Ugh. Gross. Someone just didn't learn how to chew. Mm-hmm. Ugh. Very annoying.

1:16:10Big Cat:Do it.

1:16:11PFT Commenter:Rip it.

1:16:12Big Cat:Do it. No, I don't know. Which one we got to talk about? No, yeah. It's the one that we just talked about. We said that we were going to get in the fourth. I think that's a great pick. You think that's a great pick? Yeah. All right. Bad injury. Knee pop. Broken bone. Just bad injury. Yeah, if you're on a sporting event and you hear the sound of a knee going or a bone breaking, it's a horrible, horrible, horrible sound to hear. Yeah. The pop, then the scream. Yes. Yeah. Scream, yeah. The whole thing is a bad sound. If you can hear the injury, it's a horrible, horrible sound. Yeah, it's so weird when it happens to you.

1:16:52Big Cat:like that feeling where it's like i'm fucked up right now yeah when you feel your own yeah big time all right you guys have your last pick yeah uh hank yeah we're gonna go with it we're gonna do it what whoa six

1:17:08Big Cat:no it's not even on it's not even on that oh it's four number four on that list

1:17:13PFT Commenter:your ball i think six i don't know whatever four is a crazy pick someone being burned alive Yeah, that's a bad sound, I guess

1:17:21Big Cat:Yeah, very bad sound This is Hank's pick What was the other one?

1:17:27PFT Commenter:A car not starting Oh, that's a much better pick That's a much better pick I like Hank's pick better

1:17:33Big Cat:I like Hank's pick better That's a terrible, that's a great pick That's a great pick Yeah Sometimes you just hear that noise and you're just like Well, I'm going to deal with it We're going to get through this together What, you're talking about someone being burned alive? or how many times you've asked Hank this question. Game of Thrones. We were brainstorming. I was like, is it dark? Is this someone being burned alive? That's hard to hear. It's tough. Status Baratheon. Just anyone dying. You're screaming. It's pain. The Red Witch. Everybody around is panicking too. Like, put him out. Put him out.

1:18:10Big Cat:Does anyone have water? Put a blanket on. Stop, drop, roll.

1:18:14PFT Commenter:The car pick was really good. I think Barn Alive would have been a funny honorable mention. Car pick was, but hey.

1:18:20Big Cat:I think I've heard the car not starting so many times that it's old hat for me. It doesn't canopy like it used to. Okay. Let's do some honorable mentions. I had Drake. Okay. We had Taylor Swift. Okay. We thought about doing Taylor Swift too. We're like, we can't do that. Just because it pissed people off. Yeah. We had, when your parents call you by your full name. Mm-hmm. Pro football talk commenter. Get in here. Mm-hmm. Cats fighting.

1:18:45PFT Commenter:Yeah. Oh, we had along the same lines, when you wake up to your dog licking its butt. Yeah. That sound is so gross.

1:18:54Big Cat:Or the sound of your dog or cat starting to throw up. Oh, that's a bad one.

1:18:59PFT Commenter:The sound of a shart. Yeah. You think you're going to fart, and then you just hear it's wet. The sound of a clearly fake orgasm. That one's always tough. I said the sound of your own voice. Zach was like, no, we take those anyway. Yeah. He's like, I don't care. I think it's a kind thing to do.

1:19:17Big Cat:Listen, if the guy's having enough fun, who cares? That makes me... Do you fake orgasm? No, I just appreciate the... It's like someone being... They're being kind by faking it. Yeah, yeah. It's a nice thing to do.

1:19:31PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:19:32Big Cat:A little bit patronizing, but... Yeah. We'll take it. We'll move on. Next play. We had Vuvuzelas. Yeah, good one. Condom breaking. Condom breaking. The snap. when a band says we're going to play a couple of our new songs.

1:19:46PFT Commenter:Yeah. Max, what was yours?

1:19:50Big Cat:The sound of your own voice.

1:19:52PFT Commenter:I was thinking about that, but it's like we've done it for so long that it's like whatever. Yeah, for most people. It's a good pick.

1:19:59Big Cat:You should have done that one. That's a much better pick.

1:20:02PFT Commenter:What about Dental Drill?

1:20:04Big Cat:Memes had that on the list. It fucks me up. Cowbells.

1:20:08PFT Commenter:Cowbells, yeah. I had a niche parent one, the Cocomelon intro. It will make a kid come from like 70 yards away will just be like TV. It's a Cocomelon. It's like these bees buzzing. It drives me nuts. Air horns from PMT episode one. It's a pretty bad sound. Pardon my take. Broadcast test sound. Yeah. This is a national broadcast. That's an emergency or whatever the fuck. Hank had rattlesnake on here.

1:20:45Big Cat:I kind of like a rattlesnake. Okay. How about what?

1:20:50PFT Commenter:Rattlesnake's a horrible sound.

1:20:51Big Cat:Why do you like a rattlesnake? I don't know. It's cool. I respect nature. Have you heard one in person? Didn't we just talk about how...

1:20:58PFT Commenter:Scared we are of rattlesnakes?

1:20:59Big Cat:Yeah. Like, if you do like snakes, you're the weird one. You're a weird one. I'm not talking about liking the snake. I'm talking about respecting the rattle. You've never heard a rattlesnake in person? I have heard rattlesnake. In person? Yeah. A guy like you, you respect the rattle. I respect the rattle. It used to be thanking the rattlesnake that it's got a rattle on its tail for letting you know that it's there. It's there, yeah. The snakes you've got to watch out for are the ones that are rattle-less. Yeah. It's like a cat with a bell on its collar. It's a cool sound.

1:21:26PFT Commenter:Yeah. Give it a shot. My one in this would have been folding paper. Oh, my personal one is styrofoam. Styrofoam's bad. Styrofoam. I hate when styrofoam's rubbing up against itself.

1:21:39Big Cat:My personal one's weird, but it is ripping a napkin. Oh. Like, even me just saying that out loud is making my skin crawl.

1:21:47PFT Commenter:That bothers you.

1:21:48Big Cat:What about Velcro?

1:21:49PFT Commenter:You guys have posted Velcro? I like Velcro.

1:21:51Big Cat:Big fan.

1:21:51PFT Commenter:I like Velcro a lot. Do your personal one, Zach.

1:21:54Big Cat:I don't like hearing, like, if you bite on the silverware hard, like hearing the teeth on metal.

1:21:59PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:22:00Big Cat:Gets me a little, eh.

1:22:01PFT Commenter:But also your personal one, number 20. The Fortnite down sound is always a bad one Zach played it for me I wasn't familiar with it Oh when you're like going out of the bus? No

1:22:14Big Cat:No it's like when you go down it's like

1:22:16PFT Commenter:Oh yeah My bad my bad The Fox injury music It's a bad one Police siren behind you Always gives you a little like jump scare It's the worst when it's in a song

1:22:31Big Cat:Oh yeah Or when they have a phone alarm or a doorbell ring in a commercial. Yep. That's the worst. Yep. Yeah, I had like when you're driving, you're listening to music,

1:22:40PFT Commenter:and then a text comes in or something, and then that just ruins the vibe.

1:22:44Big Cat:I think it was Wendy's that had that. They had the doorbell sound during one of their commercials they were running during the NBA playoffs.

1:22:50PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:22:51Big Cat:It sucked every single time. Blake was like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah. It ruins your entire setup.

1:22:56PFT Commenter:What about the knock on the bathroom when you're taking a huge shit? Someone's in here. Yeah, that's always just a little bit of a panic, knowing that what you're doing, there's going to be someone standing right outside the door being like, now walking in. That pass off is just the worst. I had that in the invitational. Some guy, like I was taking a shit and the guy was like, is it good in there? And I was like, dude, you know the answer. I just said that to him. I was like, why would you ask me that? Why are you putting me on the spot like this? You know what just happened in here. Let's see.

1:23:30PFT Commenter:Olivia Soprano. Yep. Oh, microphone feedback. That one sucks. Yep. Hotel clock alarm. Different than obviously the wake-up alarm because you didn't set it.

1:23:44Big Cat:The old school one.

1:23:44PFT Commenter:Someone else set it, and it's like, what the fuck just happened? Yep. And then you just usually have to unplug the hotel clock and smash it. Mm-hmm. A specific one for me is something about like, it's really like a two - or three-year-old scream. It's this high-pitched scream that you can't. It just wrecks everything.

1:24:04Big Cat:My niece and nephews do this thing when they get together that they just battle each other of who can scream louder. And it's just back and forth forever. And it's the most annoying thing ever.

1:24:19PFT Commenter:It's not always necessarily like they're upset or anything. It's like sometimes they're just doing it for fun. No, it's fun.

1:24:25Big Cat:It's a game. And they're laughing as they're doing it. but it's this high-pitched, and it pierces your ears. Did anybody think about putting Hank's yawns on here? Ooh.

1:24:35PFT Commenter:P.C. said that. I said you would be the only person that would have put that on there.

1:24:38Big Cat:I thought for sure one other person would have said it. No. Just me?

1:24:41PFT Commenter:They bother you the most. Yeah, by far. They bother me a little. By far. Zach, you had a good one, the sound of the bottom out your car. Oh, yeah. When you go over something. Like front bumper? Yeah. Bad. You go over a speed bump too fast.

1:24:54Big Cat:I know all the roads were the smallest speed bumps in my neighborhood. Yeah. Yeah, exactly that reason.

1:24:59PFT Commenter:That's such a shitty sound to be like, God damn it, something bad just happened. We also had check engine light car accident, Zach, throughout there. That's just that is a bad sound. It is. Yeah. Unless you're walking because then you get to go watch. Like if you hear the wheels, if you hear the wheels screech and you hear like a smash, you're like, I'm going to get to go watch an episode of Cops. Yeah. Live. All right. Any others? Chris Collinsworth. Gunshot.

1:25:27Big Cat:Ooh. He's my Romo.

1:25:29PFT Commenter:Oh,

1:25:31Big Cat:interesting. Here's a guy. Hank, that's a good pick. Somebody shooting a gun at you is a good pick.

1:25:38PFT Commenter:Just a gunshot in general. It's usually not what you want to hear. Yeah, gunshot or fireworks. Since we're doing announcers, can we say the A's announcer?

1:25:47Big Cat:I brought that up to me. I think she's so bad that it's good. The clips are hilarious. like because i don't it's not like i'm regularly listening to an aze broadcast but every time she does just like a ridiculous clip i think it's funny yeah yeah uh another one that's not niche

1:26:10PFT Commenter:but well it's a little bit everyone's had it the sitting on a plane the engine is being turned off when you're like oh here we go what do you mean like a delay like when you're when you're sitting in when you're like about to you're really not gonna take off you're about to push back and And then it's just like you just hear everything power down. Power sound. God fucking damn it. Bad time. This is going to be the worst. Okay. That was a good Mount Rushmore. Bad sounds. Worse sounds. Any others, Zach?

1:26:39Big Cat:I don't like you drop your phone on the pavement. Yeah. Because there's the impending doom of I've got no more phone. You don't know what's going on.

1:26:47PFT Commenter:I dropped mine like a month ago, and I just have a cracked iPhone now. I'm just a hot girl. I'm just waiting for the new iPhone.

1:26:53Big Cat:Yeah. When's that coming out?

1:26:54PFT Commenter:I don't know, but I'm refusing to. It's starting to become a problem. It's starting to splinter and get really bad, but I'm so close. It feels good, though. Cracked iPhone. I kind of like it. I'm badass. What can I say? I live my life on the edge. Okay. Good Mount Rushmore. Let's get to Coach O in studio. Awesome, awesome interview with Coach O.

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1:28:24PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. Recurring guest. We haven't seen him in a few years, but he's a great friend of ours. And I think we're friends of his. I think that was one of the things you said at the end of one of our interviews with you, that we are your friend. It is Coach O in studio. Coach O, great to see you. We just had dinner together. It's great to see you back. and I hope that this maybe is the start of you maybe getting back on a sideline because that's what I'm hoping for. We need you in our lives. Well, I'll tell you what, man. You guys are wonderful.

1:29:01I want to congratulate y 'all. All the success y 'all have, but you know what? You're still the same guy. You're our friends. You're always going to be our friends. Derek and I, what a great show you guys have.

1:29:10Big Cat:Yeah, we appreciate it. I don't know if you saw this earlier, but on my laptop, since the day we met, I got Coach O helmet stickers. I love it. That I popped on here. I love it, Kerry. A lot of times people are like, who's that on your laptop? That's Coach O. You need to start watching more football. Yeah. So you do want to get back into coaching football. You know what? Time? Yeah, I think it's time. I'm feeling a little bit. I haven't made the decision totally, but, you know, I got my boys settled. Coaching football now, and it's been four years since I've been out,

1:29:39PFT Commenter:and I'm getting the itch again. So what does the last four years look like? Have you just been kind of laying low? Have you been watching football? Have you been talking to anyone about football? Because you are a football guy through and through. It had to have been weird to – I would imagine that was one of the first times in your life since you were a little kid that you took a break from football. Yeah. You know, it was – I didn't know what was going to happen. We went down – one of my sons, Cody, and I went down to Miami, and Mario Cristobal has been great to me, who I coached at the University of Miami.

1:30:08And we asked him if we could get Cody a job as a young analyst. And he said, yeah, come on up. And Cody said, Daddy, Miami's a big city. You mind moving down here? I said, I volunteer. That's a good dad. Yeah, you'll take one for the team. So I moved down to Miami Beach, and I've been living there ever since. My other son, Parker, is an analyst at Miami, so I got two boys there, and my older son coaching at Tulane.

1:30:32Big Cat:Okay. And I've seen a couple videos. Every now and again, somebody sees you out for a run, and they take a video that I got spotted, Coach O, on South Beach. I saw one guy a couple weeks ago. He was a real piece of shit. He said, roll tide to you. Yeah. And then you did a great thing. You were very nice, very polite to him, and then he turned around, And he said, wait a second. And he turned back to me and he go, you watch your mouth. Like basically said, I'm going to be nice to you, but just know I can still kick your ass. About respect, man. You know what I mean? And when you get out in the real world, you know, when you're with people in sports, we understand the code.

1:31:04This is the thing you do, these things you don't do. Out there, I think a lot of people don't understand the code. I'm out there to teach them.

1:31:11Big Cat:Yeah. So if you had to pick, and we're not going to hold you to anything, but would you, are you thinking more about the pros or more about college football? Yeah, I really like college football. I mean, I wouldn't not entertain the pros, but I think college football is where I've been, and I really like it.

1:31:27PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right, so not coaching football, how many Red Bulls are you drinking? It's like that has to change, right? Yeah, I don't know. I still get up at 5 o 'clock. I still have an itinerary. Okay. My wife goes, you're retired. I have an itinerary. I get up at 5. I go to some meetings in the morning, and then I work out. I end up about 3.30 in the day that I'm done. That's the days I have off. Three or four days a week I'm at football practice. Okay. So you're still around the guys. So are you still crushing Red Bulls before every day? Oh, no question. How many? I love Red Bulls. I've gotten down to maybe six.

1:32:10Big Cat:Yeah, last week, Chad, I think you said you had to curtail some of your Red Bull drinking. At your height, how high did it get? Yeah, oh, 12 to 15. Oh, Jesus Christ. We're dipping a cup, a little dip of coffee. A little dip of coffee will help you, too. It'll go straight to you. Wait, you mix it in with the Red Bull? No, no, put it in your lip. Oh, yeah. Oh, the coffee grounds. Yeah, the coffee grounds in your lip. Oh, yeah, go straight to your lip. Have you eaten any worms in the last couple years? You know what? I haven't eaten any worms. I didn't have to do it. I haven't had many speeches.

1:32:41PFT Commenter:Yeah, wait, we got to retell that story, because I'm sure there are some new AWLs. We've been doing this for a long time. It's an all-time hype-up story. So set the stage for us. You know, Joe Peace at Northwestern State University was a great coach, man. And he had told a story one time. It was a motivating story. And I heard it from him. And he did it in front of the team. And it was like my freshman year. Then my senior year, I was going to give a speech at a banquet. and so I went out in the grass field. We had a grass field. We had a bunch of big worms, man, and I was out looking for some worms.

1:33:21I got a worm, and Coach Goodwin says, Baby, what are you doing? I said, Coach, I'm looking for some worms. He didn't even ask me. He said, that's a big old worm. So I found a bunch of them. Then I went that night, and I said, you know, there's two guys fishing in Alaska. Cut the hole. One guy's catching a bunch of fish. The other guy's not catching anything. And he looks at the guy. He says, what are you doing? What is your bait? He goes, worms. He goes, I'm using worms too. He said, why am I not catching bait? He goes, you got to keep them warm before you put them on the hook. He says, well, how the hell do you do that?

1:34:01Keep them in my mouth. I'll do anything to feed my family. I pulled out a big old worm. Team got fired. I'll do anything to win. I'm going to tell you what. It was tough, though. That worm was crawling around my mouth. Did you win that game? It was like a spring game. It was a spring game?

1:34:21Big Cat:That's your pump up for a spring game. Did you ever think I should have waited to use this during an actual game that counted? Yeah. Later on, I didn't have to do that. I just made sure Joe Burrow was on the bus. Yeah. So what was that like after winning the Natty? So we got to experience it as fans and as fans of yours and of Joe Burrow's. So we were in Louisiana that night watching the game. Amazing game. What was that like for the next couple weeks? Were you just basically the kings of Louisiana? Well, I felt like we were the kings of the country, man. Everybody loved us. A lot of people were supporting us.

1:34:55You know, the next day, I saw you guys in the morning. I think that I was the only one that went to bed a little early. And we had a press conference. And, you know, we were going home. And, you know, I was raised down the bayou. You know, people catch shrimp for a living. They work hard. They're great people. And, man, we're going down Highway 30. We take the back road, and the cooks, the people that were working in the refinery were screaming, go Tigers. And that was one of my biggest moments to see all those people satisfied. You see, when you become the head coach at LSU, you got to understand this, man.

1:35:34On Saturday night, for three to four hours, everybody in that state is cheering for the Tigers. And if you win, they're happy. If you don't, they're mad as hell at you.

1:35:44Big Cat:Yeah, it is. It's a cultural thing. Was that the best college football team of all time? I'll say this. With Joe, I think we could beat anybody. But you hear comparisons here and there. And you know what my answer is? There's got to be one on the field. Now, they've had some other great teams. But I do believe with Joe and the team that we have, we could have beat anybody we played that year for sure.

1:36:08PFT Commenter:Yeah, and you specifically have been part of, I mean, some of the late 80s, early 90s Miami teams, the early 2000s USC teams. So you can speak to it. You were part of some really special football teams. Five national championships. Yeah. So would you say if you had to put them all out there, all those teams out there, that LSU team would win that game? I put an LSU team in front of everybody. Wow. When did you know that it was going to be a special team? You know, first of all, all the pieces came together. There's a lot of stories. Stuff came together here and there. Derek and I, man, we had planned this for five years.

1:36:46This is how we're going to do it. I had a blueprint from Jimmy Johnson. I had a blueprint from Pete Carroll. Now was my time to do it. I went to Ole Miss and I made a bunch of mistakes. I tell everybody, don't worry about my mistakes. I did them all to Ole Miss. So I'm ready to go here. But when it was third down, I think it was 17 in Texas. Yeah, we should have went four-minute offense to run the clock down because Texas was hot and they were scoring. It was third down at 17. There's zero blitzes. Clyde picks up the linebacker. Joe slides to the left, and he gives time for Justin Jefferson on the cross route to get open.

1:37:22Other quarterbacks would have got sacked. Justin gets open. He hits Justin. He gets hit. He throws Justin a great pass, touchdown. That's when I knew we had a great team because, you know, the bottom line, you can coach all you want. Playmakers got to make plays in the big game.

1:37:37PFT Commenter:Yeah. So you say you had a plan. Obviously, Joe Burrow was a big part of that plan. What was it like recruiting him and getting him? Because that's a – I mean, Joe Burrow's story, winning a Heisman, being the number one overall pick, being so good in the NFL, that was not the Joe Burrow that you recruited. That was – you know, the guy you recruited was the guy who couldn't get the starting job at Ohio State and was a good football player, but maybe wasn't the guy that ended up being everything, all-world, everything. He developed. Thank God we had him for two years. Yeah. We needed that. You know, going to Miami, having the great quarterbacks we had at Miami, then we go to USC, Carson Palmer, Matt Leiter, all those great – so I had a vision in my mind what we needed.

1:38:20So we had our spring ball. Back when spring ball was – spring game was on TV. Now they'll put them on TV because they post their players, right? And our quarterbacks didn't play well. And I got a son playing at McNeese. He called me and said, Dad, our quarterbacks suck today. I said, I know. I know. I get it. He said, Daddy, there's a guy named Joe Burrow transferred from Ohio State. You ought to look him up. So I went out and the coaching staff, Bill Bush, had been at Ohio State. I said, Bill, you know Joe Burrow? He says, Coach, if we get Joe Burrow, we're going to college football playoffs.

1:38:54I said, let's go get him. Now, Joe's coach who recruited him was at Cincinnati at the time. Joe's girlfriend was going to Cincinnati. When Joe came on the trip, guess where Joe was going?

1:39:06PFT Commenter:Cincinnati. Cincinnati. Ain't no doubt, right? So Joe gets – I never had a recruit tell me this. Joe gets here, and I say, Joe, come on. He's going, Coach, I don't want to talk to you. I said, what? He said, Coach, I know you're a great recruiter. I don't want to hear a bowl. He said, I want to eat crawfish. And I want to talk football. And, you know, if I didn't need a quarterback so bad, I wouldn't have responded this way. I said, okay. So I left them alone. The next day we had a football meeting. Jerry Sullivan was in there who developed Justin Justin, had been in the NFL, Steve Ensminger, Joe's daddy, Joe's brother.

1:39:44We had about 10, 15 people in there. Derek was in there. It took me five minutes to figure out that Joe Burrow was the smartest guy in the room. No doubt. So, all right, number one, he's a smart quarterback. Jimmy Johnson told me that. Get a smart quarterback. So we go to eat crawfish. Y 'all might have hit the story. And Derek comes to me. Sharon comes to me and says, hey, coach, there's no crawfish. You got to think on your feet, man. You got to adjust on the move, right? You got to be from Louisiana to do this. Hey, call Boudreaux. Boudreaux's balling crawfish down to the other restaurant. bring 40 pounds of crawfish ball and put it on the platter and give it to Joe.

1:40:25So he ate crawfish. So we go out. We have a meeting. I never told anybody about this. We had a private meeting. I said, Joe, if you tell anybody this, you're lying. You're going to be my starting quarterback, but you got to earn it. I said, by the way, I got two receivers, man. Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. You haven't heard about them yet. So the next day we have a big breakfast. Derek's there. Our coaches' wives are there. So when the parents leave, we all stay and we say, okay, is he coming or not? Cincinnati. He's going to Cincinnati. But Joe said something. He said, I'm not taking any phone calls, and I'll decide on Thursday.

1:41:09Do you think I was going to wait for Thursday not to get in touch with Joe Burrow with my butts on the line. Well, we made a connection with his brother Dan. And Dan talked a lot more than Joe. So I called Dan. Me and Derek called Dan the next day. I said, Dan, are you talking to Joe? Yeah, yeah. You answered your phone? Yeah. I said, you got to be my voice now, okay? I said, Dan, where do you think? Come on, Dan, LSU or Cincinnati? It ain't even close. Dan gives me the soul. Well, Coach, you know what I'm saying? I said, Dan, F that. You love your brother? I said, Dan, do you? Hey, grab down there, son.

1:41:48I said, grab down there in your pan. Oh, you got two of them, Dan? He goes, I'm grabbing them, coach. I got them. I got them. I said, Dan, squeeze them sort of guns.

1:41:58Big Cat:Yeah, coach, I'm squeezing them. Call your brother. Tell him to come down and shoot if you got two of them down there, boy. We tell that story. He was like, I got them, coach. I got them. I got them. I got them. He actually did it, man. And Dan was our voice to call Joe. Now, Joe said that wasn't his deciding, but I wasn't. You know, how's a recruit going to tell you you need him and he's not going to talk to nobody on Thursday? Somebody's going to talk to him. Right. You've got to compete.

1:42:26PFT Commenter:If you're not talking to him, the other guy's talking. Somebody's competing. You've got to find the back door, man. You've got to get on the ground. But, man, what a story. And then just out the blue on Thursday, I got a call. Joe Burrow said, Coach, I'm going to be an LSU title. Oh, unbelievable. How about that? Yeah, Dan Burrow is also the guy who got Joe in with us. Is that right? Yeah. He's a listener. Dan's got two. He's the man. He got two. He squeezed them.

1:42:49Big Cat:That's proven, yeah. You got to recruit the brother sometimes. That's a good word, right? You got to know the champion. Who's the decision maker? That's what I always thought. Who is the decision maker in the process? I recruited the champion harder than I recruited the recruiter. I think Joe is probably the decision maker in that, But also having a trusted guy, his brother, put in a good word. It's like every little bit helps. That's right. I love the fact that he just wouldn't talk to you when he got there. He gave you this stiff arm. He's like, I know you're going to convince me to come to LSU, so I can't talk to you.

1:43:19Big Cat:You're too good at it. Yeah. You know what? You got to respect that. Yeah. Yeah. You know, when Joe came in, he was the fourth-string quarterback, and I went and watched him. We were running 10s with Tommy Moplin, who, by the way, you all know Tommy Moplin did a great job for us, man. And I couldn't coach the players in the summer, but I couldn't watch. Joe ran every 110 and won every 110.

1:43:40PFT Commenter:Yeah. And after that, Joe and Foster Morrow, who was Joe's host, went out, throw a ball. And the rest of the team went with the quarterbacks that were there, obviously, right? But all of a sudden, Joe never lost a 110. Then all of a sudden, see a couple of guys go catch passes with Joe. Yeah. And Joe won the locker room himself. Yeah. What a tremendous job. Now, having two years with him helped. Yeah, because I was going to say, we were talking about it before, but the first year was, you know, he was good. He wasn't Heisman. And we went to the game. It was actually our first game that we went to LSU, and it lived up to the hype in terms of the crowd, the atmosphere.

1:44:19PFT Commenter:But you guys didn't score a point. You lost to Bama. You didn't score a point. But you said that that was probably the most important loss that you had because it changed everything. Yes. Through adversity, you learn the most. You should, right? And after that game, I went to Steve Esminger, who's a stud. I think we won like 80 % of our games with Steve. He's like John Wayne. He's a great guy. I said, Steve, we got to go to the spread. He goes, I agree. Well, we had a young guy named Joe Brady who came, talked to us about RPOs in the summer, and we had some guys in the Saints. I said, hey, let's start working, Joe.

1:44:54I said, Steve, are you receptive of me bringing in another guy, him teachers to spread, and y 'all work together? And he did, and it worked out perfectly.

1:45:02Big Cat:How would you get you guys up for a game against Nick Saban in Alabama? Because they seem to just crank them out in terms of recruiting. They were great at player development, too. And for a while, LSU, it was always the story of LSU was you can't beat Alabama. You can't reach that top pinnacle. How did you get you guys prepared, especially after an ass-kicking like that, that you could actually go out there and compete with them? Well, first of all, as a head coach, I knew the best sport was I had to beat Alabama. So everything that we did every day, I didn't say we had to beat Alabama, but I knew that they set the benchmark high, and we were right there.

1:45:38We had to get past them. First of all, I thought you had to match their physicality. I was wrong. We spread them out, and that day we went to Tuscaloosa, we really ripped them a good one right there. They came back, give it to Nick Saban, his team, who's tough, and a great coach, but we really had a great game plan. And I remember, you know, I'd go home Thursday night, and Joe Brady would stay in the office until four in the morning. And the next day on Friday, he just looked at me and said, Coach, we got him. And I remember getting on the plane. It was like I was going with my buddies. We were going to a fight, man.

1:46:13And we were going to win. Yeah. And there was no question we were going to win that game.

1:46:17PFT Commenter:But it's a testament to you as being in charge of the whole program to be like, hey, we lost this game. We got to change. We got to adapt. And finding a guy like Joe Brady, who's a young guy who a lot of teams probably wouldn't take a chance on to put into that elevated role for a huge team in a huge conference. Yeah. You know, recognizing talent, I mean, that's been one of my strengths as a recruiter. When Joe came and he spoke to our staff in the summer, I knew this guy was going to be a great coach. I mean, Ray Charles could see that shit. You know what I mean? Yeah.

1:46:51Big Cat:So I'm looking at a picture right now of your famous binder. Actually, Derek tweeted this out back in, I think, 2016. When you made your pitch to LSU saying, hire me as the head coach. I'm more than an interim guy. I can lead LSU back to greatness. You had a binder. Do you remember how many pages were in this binder that you made? I think we had two or three binders. So it was multiple editions, multiple volumes. What was in that binder? I got to know. Do you still have a copy of the binder? It was our plan. Derek got it. I probably got it in my mind. I don't keep all this. But I'll tell you, let me tell you what happened that day, okay?

1:47:27So we go to Texas A &M, right? And we tear them a new one. There is guys running the football up and down the field. And I get back on the plane, and Derek's sitting in front of me. And his head is down like that. And we just won a big game. I'm like, what's going on? Alumni come. Coach too bad. I said, what? We did a good run. they're going to hire who was it? Jimbo Fisher. They're going to hire Jimbo Fisher. Oh, okay. Well, the next day, I go to meet with the athletic director, me, Derek and Austin Thomas. We got the binders, we got everything ready. The AD comes in who was a great guy. He looks at us, he has his head down and he goes, he takes the binders and he pushes them.

1:48:16He don't even open them. I'm like, what's going on? I'm kicking Derek. I'm kicking Austin. What's happening? He says, guys, I hate to tell you, I'm going to meet with Tom Herman tonight. We had a good run. I said, Derek, Austin, you got to leave. Hey, you know Eminem one shot? You got one shot, right? It's like the time I hugged Sandra Bullock, I'll tell you. One shot to do that. I pulled a chair. I said, Joe, and I was hitting him right here. You know in your heart and your belly I'm the best man to be the head coach of the LSU Tigers. I shook his hand stiff. I said, I look forward to being the head coach of the LSU Tigers.

1:48:57And I walked out of there. I go, okay. I was living in a hotel. We moved out of the hotel. We go home. Anyway, things happen. You know, Tom Herman, Lane Kiffin texted me, 1.30, Tom Herman's going to Texas, all that stuff. And all of a sudden, I think it was like 5.36 in the morning, I missed a call from Joe Oliva at AD. What the? What's going on? He called me and said, hey, man, could you be in Baton Rouge an hour? I said, hell yeah, man, I'm coming. Look, I'm going down I-12 playing Bourne-Litton Bayou as hard as you. And I'm going about 120 miles an hour, man. Then all of a sudden, I make a call.

1:49:35I said, hey, they didn't offer me the job. Somebody told me, I don't think they want to meet with you now and tell you that off the job. So I get to LSU, and Joe's standing near the Tiger. Man, I pull in there. He said, well, you want the job or not? I grabbed him. I gave him a beer. He said, let me down you, big boy. So we went and talked. And we're talking there. We were talking about things that are going to happen to him. He said, man, I got to tell you something. I said, what, Joe? He said, you know when you were hitting me in my stomach like that? He said, you were right. He said, I went to bed at night.

1:50:09I had a knot in my stomach, man. I said, I put that KZ and Grigri on your ass, boy. What a story, man. Yeah, it was great.

1:50:16Big Cat:It worked out really, really well. And then you fast forward a couple years. The championship season was just, it was magical. It was incredible. So much fun to watch. And then the way things ended there, I actually thought you had a really good perspective about the whole thing, is when they said, okay, we're going to fire you. Here's your buyout. Would you say, like, which door you want me to walk out of? Yeah. Just write the check? Yeah, what time you want me to go? What door you want me to walk out of, brother? Yeah. But you know what? Hey, man, I'm a positive guy. I'm never going to let people know they got me.

1:50:42You know what I mean? Deep down inside, I may be hurt and I may be burning. We don't show it. We have a saying, big chest and big eyes. We look forward, we work through adversity, and we keep on going.

1:50:52PFT Commenter:Yeah, I like that. I mean, you're a football lifer. You know how it works. Everyone gets fired. That's just kind of how it works. And I understand the standards of LSU. Yeah. I get it. We weren't meeting the standards that we were supposed to meet. Okay, give me$17 million to walk out the door. good luck. I'm still getting paid at LSU. People actually say, Coach, you mad at LSU? I said, No, I love LSU. And I do. It was a great opportunity for us and a great time. You are an incredible recruiter. Obviously, the recruiting games changed. But do you think if you get back in it, you still got it in terms of getting in the living room and being able to win those recruiting battles?

1:51:32Got even better. I'm fresh ready. That's what I love to do. And you know, it's kind of because of our exposure. Like, I went speak at the Texas football clinic. All the recruits come up to me. You know, hey, Coach, what's up? The mamas don't want to take pictures with me. It's just because of our notoriety and because of Joe Burrow and Justin and Jamar, the success that they're having. People know us all over the country.

1:51:59PFT Commenter:Now, are you still able to get put on your hard hat and your work boots, like the time you had to eat, was it five bowls of bison chili at a chili con? So tell that story. Because these are my favorite. Like Coach O will do anything to get a recruit. He'll just eat the house out of chili if he has to. Oh, my Lord. So we may have had, I guess, you've been in New Orleans, you eat a lot of gumbo, right? So we may have had, I guess, five, six home visits that day. And everywhere I went, they had gumbo for me, right? And I ate. I mean, I must have ate. And look, they fixed me a big bowl. I'm a big eater.

1:52:40I'm going to eat. And it's the last, it's the last home visit. It's about 9 o 'clock at night, okay? And so we get there, and the mom says, man, I made some chili. And I was supposed to go, what's wrong, coach? You don't like chili? Oh, no, I love chili. I love chili. I love chili. So we get it, and we eat, and it was actually good. And I said, man, what's in there? They said, bison. Oh, okay. I never ate bison chili in my life. I ate about three or four bowls. Man, I went home. You know, my Uncle Pish used to say this. He said, you know, I wear a size 38 pants, but a 40 feels so good, I buy me a 42.

1:53:23PFT Commenter:Wait, did you say your – what's your uncle's name? Uncle Pish. Oh, okay. I thought you said Pish. Uncle Pish. That's a great saying, though. Yeah. We're 42. Me too. Yeah, so all right. So what other great – because I love hearing the recruiting stories, you getting in there like, you know, being like, hey, I got to eat all this or I got to go out in the – did you ever have to go out in the backyard and like draw plays and stuff? Oh, man. We went to Apu's house in Salt Lake City, and it was us in Alabama. And Apu was a big nose tackle man, and his father was very, very instrumental. His father wanted him to go to Alabama, and I knew that.

1:54:01and I had to get in the living room. Now, I'll put it about 3.30, right? And I had to get in the living room and show his father for about 45 minutes every technique and every blocking scheme that we had to do. Now, I got our thighs and I'll put it staring at me like that. But I'll tell you what, I was getting after it, man. And that won over the dad right there. Yeah. You're just blocking him up. Blocking him up, showing him what we're going to do. and the dad goes, you know, nobody's ever come in my house and do it. I said, I don't think anybody ever will, brother. Yeah.

1:54:34Big Cat:Coach Bielema told us that – I think he said that you've got to look at the mom's brothers to see how the boy's going to turn out, like in terms of like how much weight they're going to put on, how big of a person. Was there something that you would look at when you went to visit a house to see how the recruit was going to turn out? Well, you've got to bet on the Gs, right? I mean, I think – you know, Lofus Tatupou, okay, who was a great linebacker for us at USC, right? he comes with Mosey, right? Mosey was a great player, great fullback. Me and Peter sitting there, and Mosey's in the door, and we say, where's Lofa?

1:55:08He goes, here. Lofa was behind him. You couldn't even see Lofa. He looks small. Great player. We bet on the genes. Great player. First game against Auburn, that was 20 tackles. So Jason Taylor's son, Mason Taylor, who's in Florida, and I knew Jason because of great defensive linemen, studied his long arm, the best I'd ever been. So he's going to bring Mason over to campus. Now, Derek and I, we always do our homework on people, right? Now, Jason Taylor and Katrina, who is in excellent shape, who is a wonderful lady, when you look at those two guys, those two people, they're going to make some pretty good athletes, right?

1:55:56So we go, and Mason Taylor goes through three plays for me. I say, offer him a scholarship. Jason goes, really? Not a school in Florida? Miami? They're still pissed about that. Florida, Florida State, offer him. Mason Taylor ended up being maybe one of the best tight ends in LSU history. Because of that history that I learned from Jimmy and Pete, better than the genes, man.

1:56:18Big Cat:What about your recruiting stories when you were coming out of high school? What was that like? It was great, man. You know, my dad was like my coach. Back then, he drank a little whiskey. I had coaches come, and I'd be at the house. They had gone through one or two-fifths of VO. It was crazy at the table. But I remember I was going to LSU from the get-go. That was it. So the coach from Alabama called. And I was talking to him. Back then, you sign an SEC scholarship and then a national scholarship. He goes, no sign of that scholarship. He said, I want to bring Bear Bryant to your house. I told my dad, he said, Coach from Alabama wants to bring Bear Bryant to me.

1:57:02He said, tell that man not to come over here.

1:57:05Big Cat:We're going to LSU. Did he try? Did he try to do what you would have done, which is like reach out to a brother, reach out to your dad, try to get a word in? No, no. Just stayed away? No. Back then, we only had one phone in the house. My dad wouldn't answer the phone. That was it. Coach O is going to be brought to you by Mountain Dew. We'll get back to him in a second. Nothing says summer like camp. Nothing says summer like baseball. Nothing says summer like the beach. And nothing goes better with hanging outside and enjoying your company with your friends than the refreshing citrusy kick of Mountain Dew.

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1:58:11Yeah. You know, I was a really good player early. both ways. We made All-State a good player. I loved playing defense, but I was a better offensive player. So when I went, that was my strength. You take defensive linemen and move them to offense, and they put me at center. LSU did. And you know what? That was the best thing for me. But I hate to say it, man. I left LaRose, Louisiana to Baton Rouge's two hours, hour and 45 minutes. I got homesick. I'd never been away from home. I went home. The best thing my father ever did to me, I thought I was going to chill out, you know, go drink a couple beers with my buddy the next day.

1:58:55Hey, you're home, Scotland. Uh-uh. Lock on my door, 6 o 'clock. Let's go to work. What? Yeah. He put me digging ditches. So I'm digging ditches on the side of the road. Now, look, you signed with LSU, you're on top of the world, right? Yeah. Okay? You quit. You're in the outhouse crap. They're passing. They're rolling down their window. I'm digging ditches. You big pussy. You couldn't take it. What the hell are you doing? You know what my dad said? Dig. I'll never forget that day. Dig. And then about two months later, Bobby Aver called me. Y 'all had no show. Who's my teammate, Solid Foods? He said, hey, man, they want you to come up here to Northwestern.

1:59:39Give a scholarship. I said, I'm coming. I don't know where it's at, but I'm getting out of this ditch thing.

1:59:45PFT Commenter:Yeah, getting yelled at on the side of the highway. Pussy.

1:59:49Big Cat:I love how you came into the office and you saw Max, our producer, and the first thing you said, you played nose tackle? Nose tackle. Yeah, do you just size people up like that? Always do. You see them and you can tell what position they be? Yeah, we going down the boardwalk, me and my wife. Yeah. That guy's an athlete. That guy's stiff as a board. I said, that girl's an athlete. She goes, how do you tell that? You just learn the traits. We used to put the traits of alignment, how you ought to look, and all that stuff. Just the pictures that I have in my mind. Think about this. One of the best guys we ever recruited at any place was from Chicago.

2:00:27His name was Russell Maryland. He was at Miami. Russell came in at 350. I think some small schools up here recruited him. Russell got down to 285 and was the first player picked in the draft. So I saw that transition. Cortez-Kennedy. Warren Sapp came in as a tight end. We moved the defensive line. So all those stories and everything that happened, we got to put that together at LSU. What about The Rock?

2:00:53Big Cat:Could you tell The Rock was going to be a superstar? I never – I'm so happy that he's doing what he's doing. I love him. His nickname was Dewey. The great guy. But look, man, he's playing behind Warren Sapp. Okay, so he's not Warren Sapp's capability. But one day, Bob Cormelis, who's a good friend of mine in the past, recruited Dwayne. And Dwayne was at practice, and he had a bad day, man. It just wasn't good. And back then, you know, I was a little vocal. You know, I said, hey, Dwayne, you ought to be an effing wrestler like your uncle. He took good advice.

2:01:34PFT Commenter:I love it. I love it. So you mentioned Jimmy Johnson. You were there when Miami was coming. It was great days for him before he goes to the Cowboys. What was it about Jimmy Johnson that made him such a great coach and had everyone so dialed in there? Everybody believed in Jimmy. Yeah? Jimmy was the man. Is that just swagger? Is that just the results and then people followed the results? What is that? Psychologist. Yeah? He used it. He got into you. Everybody drank the tea. I loved them. I loved them today, but let me tell you something. Everybody feared them, too, now. Yeah. And you knew. You knew.

2:02:11Hey, you stay within the lines. You cross the line. You're going to get it.

2:02:15PFT Commenter:Yeah. And the players did, too. The players loved them, but they feared them. And practice was fierce, man. The university of mine, when I – I tell people this nowadays. You know when you go places, you smell the grass? Well, I left. It's been 30-something years I've been in Miami. When I went on – they call it Green Tree Practice Field. when I smelled the grass, it's the same damn smell I smelled in 1988. And I stepped on that field in 1988 with Jimmy Johnson, Dave Wanstead, Bush Davis, Tommy Tuberville, Gary Stevens, Dave Campo, and I saw the way they coached. That was it. Nobody had to tell me again.

2:02:50That was my style. That was it. And that was a great, great time for me.

2:02:54PFT Commenter:Yeah, that's some incredible names. What about Pete Carroll? Did players fear Pete? Because I feel like he's more of a player's coach. Yeah. Well, Pete had everybody drinking the tea, too, now. Everybody believed in Pete. But it was kumbaya with Pete, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Pete can walk in a room. Everybody feel like they've known Pete for a long time. But the things people don't know, Pete's a strict disciplinarian. And he'll give people a chance and let them think for themselves, but he ain't going to think no crap. And at night, Pete was the best coach. We would get there at 6.30.

2:03:31We started to film, and we watched every film, every piece of practice, and he would critique. I remember one day, man, I love this story. Pete and I were close now, but no favorites. Man, I remember my five technique got reached. It was Kenichi Udizi, and Reggie Bush just went down, busting for about 40 yards. And he looked at me. I sat in the corner right there. What's wrong, Eddie? You can't teach the reach block? Ugh. Ugh. What? Looked at him. Okay. Hey, right after we finished film, I called Kenichi. He was practicing the reach block till midnight. And then I had him in the office at 6 o 'clock practicing the damn reach block.

2:04:21Now, here's Pete Carroll. You talk about accountability. He's going to find out who you are now. He's going to test you. The next day, we have inside run. We have the same play. Kanesha gets reached. He beats the reach block. He hits the tailback about seven yards deep in the backfield. We go in there. He goes, hey, Eddie, I repeated that play. I wanted to see if he was going to fix it for me. Thank you. How about that? Yeah. That's accountability, man. Yeah. And, you know, we held it. Everybody to that standard at LSU.

2:04:57PFT Commenter:Yeah. You know, we had a saying, and Greg McMahon was on our staff. We attack people. We attack, excuse me, we attack problems, not people. And if you do that in a situation, everybody signs on, and you say, hey, we have this problem here. How are we going to fix it? People can take that. But when you go attack their personality, I think they start shying away from you. Yeah, that's really smart.

2:05:20Big Cat:I think sometimes we have a problem with that. What would you do if, like, the problem was one of you guys just played golf all the time and didn't come to work that much? How would you solve that problem?

2:05:30PFT Commenter:We're not attacking the person, which we do sometimes attack the person. But we've got to work on that. Well, the first time, first of all, we had a set standard. Everybody knew what they were going to do. Now, if he's doing this on his off time, good. I'm not going to tell a grown man what he can do. But if he's doing it on our time, The first time I'm going to bring him in, that's all. Say, man, you can't be playing golf here, okay? What if the off time and the on time, like, it gets blurred, where it's like he is doing it on his off time, but then he's maybe a little tired when he comes in for the work.

2:06:08Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, if his performance is being affected, I would talk to him. Yeah. But you know what? Here's where I learned at Ole Miss, okay? Look, when you're a defensive line coach at the University of Miami, and you walk in there, you better be a man now. Let me say this thing, and Warren's going to hear that, and I love him to death. Warren Sapp thought there was one person on campus that could whip his ass, and that was me. And I'm glad he thought that. Now, I probably couldn't have, but he thought that, right? Right. You have to walk in there, and you have to be a Marine sergeant and not give them no slack, man, because those guys are different.

2:06:51But, you know what I mean, you got to channel their energy in the right direction. But you can't coach everybody like that. And like at Ole Miss, I'd go and I would chew a coach's butt out in front of the players. Lost it. So now when we went to LSU, and they know. I get in early in the morning, my notepad, grade every play, walk down. They were waiting for me. They were waiting for me right down the hall. Right there. Hey, Coach, come here. I'm going to play 13 here. How are we going to fix that left tackle? Hey, Coach, here's the drill I'm going to do. Here's what we're going to do with him, and we're going to get it fixed.

2:07:28It worked out perfect. You know what I'm saying? Instead of blurring out stuff on the field and attacking people.

2:07:35Big Cat:Yeah. So with Pete Carroll, I know that you used some of his stuff that he used to implement at USC. Was it Mondays, Tell the Truth? Tell the Truth Mondays? It was done right. What were the other days of the week? Tell the Truth Monday, Competition Tuesday, Turnover Wednesday, No repeat Thursday. Focus Friday. And win on Saturday, baby. All right. What happens on, is it turnover Wednesday? Yeah. What happens on turnover Wednesday? Well, you know, we focus on, well, we have third down, which is good. But we have a turnover circuit. We focus on turnovers. You know, we compete. If the offense has less than three, they win.

2:08:08If the defense has more than three, they win. And I put it up on the board. Our guys love competition. And you know there's another thing I used to do? we used to grade the one-on-ones. You got to grade the one-on-ones, man. You got to watch the film. And I used to put the one-on-one grades up on the big screen. And everybody would see it. I'd have to say a word. They would get on each other's butt. You got Derek Stanley going against Jamar Chase. You got Patrick Queen going against Clyde Edwards-Alaire. You got some stuff going on there, and they competed for it.

2:08:43Big Cat:With Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson, How did you recruit those guys, first of all, when you didn't have a great quarterback? I feel like that's the easiest way to do it, right? Like, we got a great quarterback that's going to throw you the ball. Tell me about how you got them on campus, because they're obviously some of the best players in the NFL right now. Well, let's talk about Jamar first, okay? Jamar, I think, has committed to four different schools or something like that. But what happened is, and no offense to the other staff, someone on the other staff before me told Jamar in front of his mother that he has to play cornerback.

2:09:18No way, man. So Ms. T 'Lea was totally against LSU. So his daddy, Jimmy, who's a great guy, brings Jamar to camp. Ms. T 'Lea would come to campus, and she wouldn't say a word. And there you go. You got to recruit the mama. She was the champ. And Jamar, we kept the best players after. And Jamar was going one-on-one against an all-pro that's in the league today. And he tore him up. And I looked at his daddy. I said, Jimmy, Jamar Chase. He was committed to Florida at the time. Jamar Chase is coming to LSU. He ain't going anywhere over my dead effing body. And Jimmy looked at me. You got to get the mama.

2:10:05And one of the best things I did, and Derek recommended it, is hiring Mickey Joseph. Mickey Joseph was a great coach, a great recruiter. So Mickey did a great job of getting Mr. Leah and recruiting Jamar, and we got him. And one of the things, you know, it was gratifying. You know, you go to the green room and you got your guys sitting there, and Mr. Leah came up to me. She says, Coach, I got to tell you something. Everything that you told me, you did for my son. Thank you. but to answer your question to get those guys I told them we were going to the spread and I told them we were going to get a great quarterback we had to be a salesman there because we weren't doing that yeah

2:10:43Big Cat:have you ever thought like how good of a cornerback he might have been if he had played cornerback never pretty good you never know you're probably right as soon as his mama didn't want to play cornerback I didn't even say the word yeah that is crazy to think about it now that it was that close for him to be a college cornerback and then maybe a professional cornerback instead of being possibly the best wide receiver in the NFL right now. Yeah. They wanted to play cornerback. Yeah, yeah. Cornerback. Now, look, Justin Jefferson, right? So his brothers had come to LSU. Again, you bet on the genes, right?

2:11:19And Justin had a great camp, man. And the coaches liked him a lot. He was only 160 pounds. And I'm good friends with the coach at Destra and Coach Robichaud. And my nickname is Baby. So I go down there and I said, Coach, kind of like Justin. He said, Bebe, he only got a scholarship off Nickel State. He's not going to be eligible. I said, Coach, we got a scholarship for him if he's eligible. He said, let me get working on the eligibility. And he did it the right way. But Justin did not get eligible. Sam Nader did a great job of correspondence course. He got eligible in July, and we kept him a scholarship.

2:12:00And he came to campus, and one of the best things that happened to Justin is Jerry Sullivan was with us. And Jerry walked through every route, taught him how to run every route. Now, give it to Justin. He did the work. He's the smoothest route runner I've ever seen. Yeah, yeah.

2:12:17PFT Commenter:Incredible. It is insane to think about, like, these guys on your team and what they're doing in the NFL right now. And they're the best. I mean, it is. It's a conversation. It's like, who's the best receiver? and two of the guys are LSU guys right up there. And, you know, look at our background, and we knew what we had to do. We knew we had to go to spread, and we knew we could get great receivers in Louisiana, but Joe was the key. Yeah. For us to get a great quarterback and for us to – we developed Joe, and he did the work, and Joe Brady comes in. Joe was very smart. I'll give you an example.

2:12:56You know, we run into spread. And I'm on the head and said, look, man, I'm not going to call an offensive play. I never will. You know what I mean? I'll screw it up. But, hey, Joey, tell Joey he should have thrown the hot, should have thrown the hot because the nickel is coming from the field. The only time I ever coached up to Joe Burrow on football on the field. Hey, Joe, come here. Why you didn't throw the hot? He says, coach, I looked over there. I was a darn freshman. He can't catch the ball. So I went to Jamar. Think about that.

2:13:23PFT Commenter:Yeah. The guy snaps the ball. He sees the center. He sees the hot. Now, you know how fast you got to think and you got to think on your feet. The guy's the best. Look at him. He is so smart. And the tangibles that he has, the leadership, and he's like a general. Look here. All-state basketball player, right? Dad's a coach. Mom's a principal at the school, right? Graduated from Ohio State in three years. Think about all the signs that he had to be a great quarterback. Yeah. All right. So, going into this college football season, if you were coaching a team and I was like, hey, you get any player you want.

2:13:57PFT Commenter:What quarterback would you want to be coaching? Archiband. Yeah? He's the real deal? No doubt. What makes you say that? You know, I had an opportunity to go to Texas and speak to the clinic and speak at their clinic, and I watched practice. Now, we knew Archiband as a young kid from Louisiana. He liked Joe Brady. We watched him. But I watched his practice, and I'll say this conservatively, okay? And Garrett, we recruited Garrett. Garrett's a great player. You know, they've got some great quarterbacks. But Arch is as close to or maybe as good as Joe as I've seen.

2:14:31Big Cat:Really? And I've never said that about anybody. Yeah. He's fast. He's athletic. He seems to be really smart. Smart. Tough. I guess we haven't seen him compete against the highest. I actually like what Sark did. It might not have been the best idea for the team last year, but he definitely told Quinn Ewers, like, hey, we're bringing Archie in, but I'm going to stay loyal to you until the end. Like, I'm giving you my word, and then everybody else that's in that building saw that happen when the fans were all asking for Archie. I think that's going to end up being a good thing for Sark moving forward.

2:15:01You know, it's credibility.

2:15:02Big Cat:Yeah. Your players learn to trust you. If you tell them something, do it. Yeah. So what about defense? As a defensive guy yourself, is there a defense in college football right now that you see and you're like, they're doing it the right way? I like Ohio State last year. Yeah. I love their defense. I love what they were doing, bringing the safety down, mixing things up. He might be the best player in college football. Yeah, Caleb Downs. No question. And I love the way they attacked. Their defensive line was phenomenal. What's the big white guy that had a sack fumble? Jack Sawyer. Oh, my God. I love the way that boy played football.

2:15:37Yeah. I mean, they were very, very impressive. You know, on Saturdays now, I live in Miami Beach, and I'm on that boardwalk and on the beach every day checking out all the sites. You know, my head is always on a swivel. It's a beautiful sight down there, and I love it. But on Saturday, I get up, I get a good workout in the morning, and I'm on that sofa until 10 o 'clock in the morning until I fall asleep at 12, 1 o 'clock, and I watch football as I can,

2:16:05PFT Commenter:and I love it. What coach would you say right now is like this is the guy that's – and we obviously know the Kirby, and there's some certain guys that are very established, but is there a guy that you're like, this guy, what he's doing, how he's got the program going? Well, you know, two guys I work for. You know, I think Atlanta's a great coach. Yeah. You know, look, how's that Ole Miss? I didn't have any success. And for him to do what he's doing at that school is phenomenal. And I love the coach of Notre Dame. Yeah. I'm good friends with him. I've been there a couple of times. He's a great guy.

2:16:37The players love him. He runs a tough practice. And I'm going to tell you now, Mario Cristobal has done a tremendous job. The talent level at Miami, I've been there for three years, and I've been in a bunch of practice. The talent level that he's brought that program to right now is phenomenal. And then Sarkeesian. Sarkeesian is one of the best offensive minds. He's done a great job. I don't like his play call to go on against Ohio State. I'll say that. I'm a go-forward guy. Don't go sideways. I think those guys are doing a great job. And the guy at Indiana. I've got to give him a credit. Yeah, he was at JMU.

2:17:12Big Cat:So I went to school at JMU, and then I saw what he did at that smaller program, and he left for Indiana. He talks a lot, though. He's not afraid to speak his mind. I think he – if I were to imagine what's going on in his head, he knows that Indiana is a second-tier Big Ten school. To get people talking about Indiana, he has to be the one that puts his balls on the table and be willing to wear that, right? Smart selling. Yeah. But you know what? He backs it up. Yeah. He backs it up. And, you know, I think as a coach – and y 'all seen that podcast with Pete Carroll lately? It's a good one. I'll send it to you guys.

2:17:44PFT Commenter:Okay. And he talked about you got to figure out who you are, man. Write it down. Look at it. Put it on paper. And you got to make sure you're true to those values. And then go with the plan. He said when he first started, he said, I wasn't really worth the crap. I was doing this and doing that. Until I finally got fired enough to write down to figure out who in the hell am I. Just like me. I'm going to be me, and that's it. And I'm not getting out of my lane. You know what I mean? Now, I would just if I have to, especially with my wife every once in a while. But other than that, Ed Orgeron is Ed Orgeron.

2:18:21That's it.

2:18:21PFT Commenter:Yeah, because when you saw it, obviously you mentioned your time at Ole Miss didn't go so well. That was probably you not being you. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, I didn't know how to be the head coach. I knew how to be a defensive line coach. Look, at Ole Miss, my coaches went ice tubs and IVs. The doctor called me and said, hey, it looks like a mass unit in the hospital. He said, can you lay off of the guys? But I didn't know. As a head coach, you got to know how to lay off the pedal a little bit. You can't coach the kicker the same way you coach Warren said. The quarterback, you can't.

2:18:57You know what I mean? So you got to break everybody. So it was really easier for me to be a head coach and lay off the pedal a little bit and let everybody do their job than being the hammer and trying to do everything.

2:19:08Big Cat:I can't imagine that you talk to the kickers that much. Or just words of encouragement? Oh, yeah. Here's the job. Okay? Get your ass on the sideline and shut up. All right? And when you're called on, get out there and make the effing kick. Yeah. Come back and get on the sideline and shut up again. That's good advice. I mean, that would be the best kicker of all time, right? That's right. What about – we've seen a lot of coaches, especially some of the older guys, that in the last couple years the game's changed a little bit, recruitants changed, the portal, all that stuff. they've kind of said, all right, that's enough for me.

2:19:43Big Cat:It's changed so much. I don't feel like I want to stick around for this next era of college football. If you're coming back, I feel like you're a great hire because you're always going to be a good recruiter. And now it feels like there's more people than ever who are saying, yes, I'd like to be recruited, even players that are out of school right now. You think you could adapt to that environment? No question. No question. You have to. I told my kids, you have to do it. Now, is there some things that I disagree with maybe? I think players ought to be paid. I'm all for that. You know what I'm saying?

2:20:15But I think the transfer portal and you being here and you getting paid and you leaving, I think there needs to be a little bit more loyalty. But look, whoever adapts and adjusts and maneuvers through the system is going to win. So I want to win, so I'll adapt and adjust.

2:20:32Big Cat:Yeah, I believe it.

2:20:33PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right, well, Coach, this has been awesome. I got one last question for you. It's a rowback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com. Promo code TAKE. I know you're a Roback guy as well. Tell us your number one, I can't believe I got that guy recruiting story. Like the guy that you're like, I look back, I'm like, man, I did it all. I hit all the O buttons. I did the thing. You know, I got to say, you know, there's a lot of them. But Reggie Bush. Yeah. You know, Reggie was going to Notre Dame or Washington or something like that, but we didn't have a good connection with him for some reason.

2:21:18And I was the recruiting coordinator. I wasn't recruiting that area. I wasn't recruiting the running back. But I kind of felt that we were losing ground with Reggie. So I called his dad, and I said, hey, man, and we were practicing for the bowl, Orange Bowl against Iowa, And I called his dad. Hey, man, can I buy you a steak this weekend? Y 'all doing anything? Bring your wife. Bring Reggie. Come on, man. It's just going to be us, Coach Carroll, the staff. Y 'all come spend the weekend with her. He said, Coach, I'm coming. They came. It was just Reggie. We had a great weekend. Then all of a sudden, you know, we go to Iowa.

2:21:56I mean, we go to Orange Bowl. We play Iowa. It was a tough game at Orange Bowl. We win. Me and Coach Carroll are working. We call in recruits right after the game. and Coach gets the call. He said, hey, it's Reggie. He said, Coach, I watch y 'all play. I want to be a Trojan. Wow. Just like that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And one of the greatest players I've ever been.

2:22:16PFT Commenter:Yeah. Was that always weird, though, like going from winning a big game and then being like, well, I have to get right back to work? I have to use this big game to then go and call people? Yes. You know, when you win, that's when you want to do it. Right. Man, I remember our first year, we went to the Las Vegas Bowl, and we lost, okay, at USC. And we lost to Utah, I think, something like that. And I was coming home. We drove home. Everybody's down in the dirt. I said, Coach. Yeah, Eddie. I said, hey, let's meet in the office, man. Let's go call recruits. He was like, okay. And that's the best thing we ever did that night.

2:22:58Yeah. You know what I mean? We got the taste out of them out. We call the recruits, and then you use it as a tool. Say, man, you saw the game? We need you to come in and play for us right there. Yeah, you can be the fix. Yeah, yeah. And you got it right fresh, and then you get that stuff out of your mind, and you go out on the road of recruiting, and we end up signing a great class. So it works both ways.

2:23:15Big Cat:Yeah, I love it. Are you still spending time with Ray Baker? Me and Ray. Now, look, there's a time in my life. I thought about this with y 'all guys. There's a time in my life I'd whoop Ray Baker's ass. You hear me? And by the way, Ray Baker is the son. Yeah, he's the son. You named the son Ray Baker. He's the son. Yeah. But can I tell you the story about Ray Baker? Yeah. Okay. So we had Northwestern State University, right? And back then, you know, practices are not the same. But back then, you know, we go on, and Bobby will tell you, we go on like 30 days straight a camp, man, just grinding, you know.

2:23:49And it's a Saturday, and we're on the turf. It's hot. And back then, we huddled, right? Freeman Thomas was my buddy. about 5 '11", 330. That's a big pad zone. Big guy, man. And, baby, yeah, Ray Baker going to get us today. Man, I look in the huddle. On offense, we ain't got nobody named Ray Baker on the team. He goes, uh-uh, look up there. Them Rays going to bake our ass today, baby. And ever since then, with my friend Freeman Thomas, I've been calling his son, Ray Baker. Ray Baker. Hey, what do you bench? Do you still bench? You know what? I want to tell you all the truth. I haven't benched since LSU.

2:24:33I tore both rotator cuffs, and it still kills me. Do I work out every day? Yes. But I never wanted to get my rotator cuffs fixed because I couldn't see myself in a sling for six months. So the answer to that, the bench press is out. But if I could, hell yeah, 315, I'm not going to get up and buckle my pants if I can't bench 315. Okay.

2:24:55Big Cat:No way. I like that. I ain't doing it. I think you could, even with a torn rotator cuff. What about you're running? You're running every day? Every day. Every day. Do you do squats anymore? Every day, yeah. I still squat. What are we squatting these days? Yeah, you know, I don't go heavy now. I got to be honest. Okay.

2:25:08PFT Commenter:I don't go heavy. Yeah, but still squatting. I mean, at your age. 64 years old. Yeah. Ready to go. There's not a lot of people who are - I'm in good shape. I'm ready to go. Yeah. Ass to grass? What's that? You're going all the way? Ass to grass? All the way down? Oh, well, parallel. Okay, all right. That's fine. Parallel.

2:25:25Big Cat:I would recruit you right now. Yeah. Thank you. I would like you to coach at my school. I hope that there's somebody out there listening that says, if our defense needs a shot in the arm, let's bring in Coach O this year. Yeah. It'll be good. Yeah. We'll see after the season what happens, and the best thing's always going to work out. It always does.

2:25:43PFT Commenter:Yeah. Well, just know that we are massive fans of you, and you've always been great to us. And like I said at the start of it, you can't – You know, we're writing a book now, 10 years. So we've been doing like a little trip down memory lane and getting nostalgic. And like your friendship to us and being so welcoming for us to come into the LSU program to see one of the best college teams of all time up close and personal. Like that's big for us. You know what I mean? That's a big part of how we got to where we were going.

2:26:11Big Cat:And it was also just a hell of a time to live in that. A hell of a time. Yeah. It was great to be around that team.

2:26:15PFT Commenter:But it was, I mean, we can't thank you enough because those are the ones when you look back, It's kind of fun doing this experience of writing a book where we look back and we're like, oh, yeah, if that hadn't happened, if that hadn't happened, if that person wasn't cool with us, it might have gone different, and you're in that list. Well, I thank you all for saying that, but you know what? Immediately when I met you all, I tell my wife, I can tell the person in the first 30 seconds, and I knew you all were winners. I knew you all were good guys. Man, you speak from the heart. You're all who you are, and look at the success you have.

2:26:47So congratulations to y 'all. And if I can never help, I'm there. Yeah, no, you're going to have to write a chapter. I will be there. Okay, good, good, good. We're going to need a chapter. I need somebody to help me write a chapter.

2:26:56PFT Commenter:Yeah, that's fine. We'll put it together like the binders. We got a ghostwriter. He'll call you. You just say a couple stories. And then he'll write it, and that's all you got to do. That's the secret of writing a book,

2:27:07Big Cat:is you just ask all your friends to write part of the book for you. Yeah.

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2:28:34PFT Commenter:Commercial use excluded. No refunds. Okay. So get it. You got to get every game. I have it. It's awesome. okay let's wrap up the show uh pug is on his honeymoon which means we have colton filling in for him colton put on the headphones for people who don't know colton he is uh all-time vibes guy in our office very cool guy arizona yeah give us a little give it give us a little

2:28:58Big Cat:background colton give us give us a little something um yeah i am an arizona and as you said i'm very very stoked to be here uh i'm gonna try and live up to the the hype that pug has built I hope he's having fun on his honeymoon right now. But yeah, I come from a pranking background. What?

2:29:20PFT Commenter:New to podcasts. Wait, what? I come from the world of Danny Jack. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I was like, dude, were you raised on pranks? Kind of.

2:29:31Big Cat:I did a few pranks in my day. What was the best prank? Oh, man. My first one went super viral. I went around asking kids where the G spot was It's tough to explain I did a blind No that's not tough to explain I did a blind rollerblader prank one time That turned out pretty cool

2:29:49PFT Commenter:What was the name of your friend that Danny Conrad pranked you with?

2:29:52Big Cat:Oh Zane Galpin Zane Galpin he got so pissed

2:29:55PFT Commenter:Powerful man You don't want to fuck with Zane You are a vibes guy You got a lot of tattoos You're cooler than all of us thank you that's a fact that's what i'm going for what teams you root for all arizona unfortunately all right hey kevin durant yeah you blame do you blame kevin durant he is yes him and the spurs are

2:30:18Big Cat:the main reasons for the downfall of the sun oh yeah the spurs yeah spurs were that was bad in the

2:30:23PFT Commenter:day yeah yeah that's me stoked to be here clocks look great thanks just using the word stoked just

2:30:31Big Cat:upped the coolness of this podcast how many different extreme sports have you played oh man four okay like an extreme sports like action like i snowboarding yeah motocross motocross zach's we already got a motocross guy so jealous of that travis pastrana jump that was that was crazy um yeah probably four did you freak out when you saw the orange hat yes i asked him all about it i shook his hand travis shook um really jealous but very very deserving guy i don't know if i'd

2:31:07PFT Commenter:have the guts to do that i think the best way to explain colton to our audience is uh when we played we played pickup here at at barstool hq chicago hq and uh the first time we played pickup he was wearing a full that was his first day in the office first day in the office played pickup in a randy johnson diamondbacks jersey i did in a leg sleeve shout out randy johnson baseball jersey

2:31:35Big Cat:just shooting some hoops 3xl yeah wait are you an uh arizona guy or arizona state um northern arizona actually but asu was not my i i root for them harder than u of a okay and what size shirt are you wearing right now uh just 2x i had to start out with something light because you're not a 2x no i my mom says i'm a large she says that i have a lot of potential to be handsome if i would just wear large clothing but you wear large clothing yeah extra large yeah my my go-to is

2:32:06PFT Commenter:a 2x tall all right so are we gonna see maybe like a three or 4x uh in these next two weeks

2:32:12Big Cat:yeah i just got a new 4x alvin kamara shirt i'm really hyped on so i'll be breaking that out soon Keep your eyes peeled

2:32:20PFT Commenter:I cannot wait to see that I'm very excited Alright Let's do it Numbers 3 22 Oh my Michael

2:32:30Big Cat:Oh no No I hope Colton gets it first I do too Colton Choose wisely Colton go ahead I'm going with 10 Alright Good pick I'm going to go with I'm going to go 85 42 99 memes 26 James your piece of shit I said it 16 That's Jack Taking 9 17 That was Shane I said it like a full second Before you said it too That will look That's good Check the mics

2:33:09PFT Commenter:That looks like 96

2:33:13Big Cat:96 Sorry

2:33:17PFT Commenter:Are you sure that's not 99? That's 96. Go check. That's 96. You want to check? Yeah, you want to check? It's 96. I can zoom in. That's 96, memes. That's 96.

2:33:37Yeah.

2:33:38Big Cat:Yeah, it's 96. 96. Don't say wait. 96. Official ruling, 96. Couldn't be more 96. That's not so close. Love you guys.

2:34:19Thank you.

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