Dan Patrick, Mt Rushmore Of Chillest Bros, Chill Week From Tahoe Plus Reading Some Headlines

27:54PFT Commenter:We're working out games. Jesus. We're good. Okay. I mean, Michelangelo's not that much better. He's better. He's a party dude. He's literally the party dude. He's being mad disrespectful to JC. He's the party dude. We are going to go with Wiz Khalifa. Okay. This is the one where I told Hank I'm just going to let Hank do his thing. No, Wiz Khalifa's chill. Yeah, that's chill. Pretty chill, yeah. That's chill as fuck. So while we smoke weed, that's chill as fuck. and keanu reeves okay okay chill what are you laughing about guys i mean we i i i the hand up hand up hank went completely rogue you told me that's what you said do whatever you want and then i just like i don't know i say go rogue wait so this is us again yeah we will take snoop dog okay that's a good pick it's a really good pick uh great this this was a great draft from from team memes and max over here i'm just gonna say it this is where we fuck things up usually fuck man uh this is where we can fuck things up bad because i want to take the pick that makes me laugh so hard but i don't think it but it's so funny because he really chill because he like dude yeah that's what i'm saying the pick that zach sent me say it.

29:14PFT Commenter:He's got it. He's chill because of he's got issues. Do we want to say it? I don't think he's got issues. I think he's... World of t-shirts? He's slow, dude. He just has a different worldview. You know what I'm saying? We're going to lose this draft, but you know what? We don't pander on our team. No, we take him. We don't pander. We're going to go for it. Go for it. We take Forrest Gump. Oh, no. I like Forrest Gump. Forrest Gump is chill as hell. He's so chill. Life is like a box of chocolate Forrest Gump's from my favorite movie since I was a little kid So I love that pick He literally can't be sad And his life is so sad when you watch it He was very sad when Jenny died Yeah but he still just kind of picks up And keeps chugging Bad things happen and then he Chugs along And then something great happens next Yeah right he's chill as fuck I guess sometimes there aren't enough rocks Forrest Gump's chill as hell Great pick Zach I was just laughing so hard about it all right who'd we miss i had uh tj lavin yep chills fuck marty fit marty fish how do you know him he's the chillest guy in the world how do you know him i played golf with him today okay nice we had bob ross yeah i think that was a good one tony hawk tony hawk super chill gandhi okay guy who rolls a perfect joint yep was khalifa yeah that's good jack johnson um jack johnson chill the chill little guy from the chill guy meme is timothy chow shallamay chill now he's too much of a too much of all nowhere yeah yeah billy strings billy strings is is really fucking chill we had tito from rocket power bart simpson is he chill i think i've never seen rocket power bart simpson's cool tito is super chill that's a good pick bart simpson's cool i don't know if he's chill okay i the other one that the auto is chill the other i wish i i was in my own head if i hadn't taken jesus jim nance see that would have been another terrible pick yeah all right i saw i saw that on the list and hank i was just i was praying to hello friends that's like that's like the chillest thing you can sal maskela yeah spicoli spicoli yep always a good one uh rob low guy fieri oh danny mcbride danny mcbride it's a great pick guy fieri's a good guy fieri's great he's chill as fuck all the real bros of semi valley yeah i was trying to figure out like because bryce is technically known as the chillest but he also fights babies right so i think you could have taken all the real bros because it's chillest bro oh yeah true so hank what were our picks again we have i mean it's gonna be neck and neck is jimmy buffett jesus great pick we should have taken wizz khalifa keanu reeves honestly all those names pop off yeah willie nelson would have been a good one yeah bob like that that's a that's a that's a casting a wide net of like you know fan bases bill murray yeah we got the christians we got the stoners we got the acting aficionados and we got you know the olds you don't have any party dudes no we don't wiscaleeville kind of you didn't watch ninja turtles not really that's why you hated on the yeah yeah okay we'll just say you didn't watch it like he just said teed over from rock power I didn't hate on the pick I said I've never watched it Well he didn't pick it as one of his official picks No but I said I didn't watch it Yeah Do you guys think Brad Pitt is chill?

32:38Nah

32:40PFT Commenter:Too many divorces I feel like And kids Oh yeah The beard phase He's not so chill He's in the beard phase I feel like How many times Have you been married? Two or three? Few If you've been divorced Like multiple times That kind of takes Your chill factor down It's true If you break up With Jennifer Aniston Yeah PFT had Andy Reid Chill guy Mike McDaniel, chill. Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse. He keeps it cool the whole time. Hank, are you throwing me under the bus for some of the picks that I did in my brain dump that I didn't put under a top 11? I like Andy Reid. Andy Reid's not a bad pick. Mike McDaniel, I think, is a little too forced.

33:17PFT Commenter:Yeah, well, I did Andy Reid. Then I thought, what other coach? Maybe Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel, yeah, yeah. Who's the chillest sports star? Jim Nance. The portals. Blake Griffin would have been a good pick. Blake Griffin. I think Shohei might be chill. Cody Bellinger we had on the list. Really? Yeah. He's a chill ass dude. He's pretty chill. I think Jane Danvers has to be probably pretty chill as well. Oh, yeah. Chill guy. No girls. Smiling all the time. Always. He is pretty fucking chill. Lamar Jackson? Chill. Chill. When was Jesus ever not chill? That was his whole thing. You just can't stop thinking about the Jesus thing.

33:54Well, no, I don't get it. He was literally like, they wrote an entire book about how chill he was. he he was like a leader of like so chilling chilling but that's a lot it's it's a lot of

34:05PFT Commenter:work like he just did he was spreading chill i don't think you really understand what chill is like chill is like chill is golfing like all your co-workers chilling is being like damn i got a bunch of water and it's being like you want some wine no but he was doing miracles like he was shit like Hank that's a great point the man made wine he walked on water too he water skied that's so chill like Dan we got no no food like here's some bread and fish the Rizzler he's chills Hank just keeps trying to make big arguments and Vicette isn't disputing them he just goes on to another honorable mention I think we ended the Mount Rushmore he's just stuck on fighting about I think shout out JC the problem is Hank's starting to make a little too much sense and you guys are getting uncomfortable no I just that's not what I think of as chillest bros how come millions of dudes you can wear shoes millions of dudes every week go to say what's up to them fucking chill Winnie the Pooh Yoda Yoda's a great pick Yoda's a great pick although kind of like Jesus I couldn't take Yoda because I have not watched Star Wars, but I just know that he's chill.

35:23PFT Commenter:Baby Yoda. Yeah, baby Yoda's chill as fuck. Baby Jesus, too. Yeah. We had Jack Sparrow. I don't know if it necessarily plays, but he's kind of a chill guy. Yeah, he's pretty fun. The leader. No, Jack Sparrow was a bad leader. The captain. Someone could say that about him. No. Well, no, no. Come on. Come on now. Oh, man. Zach we could have just picked you you're chill oh yeah you're as chill as chill gets I'm just trying to keep up with the chill you guys y 'all are chill veterans no the bucket hat you're reaching new levels Zach yeah the bucket hat does tie it all together the bucket hat boys did pop out today in full effect yeah all right Jake Owen Jake how do you know him just love his music you should have done your Mount Rushmore should have just been all four guys you golfed with Marty Christian going at him feeling all right let's do hot seat cool throne hey illinois stella blue coffees new canned lattes are here and in a store near you crafted with 100 colombian coffee each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream whether you're braving your morning commute or chasing your pup stella blue cans are for those always on the go and for those who care stella blue is more than just great coffee it's about giving back i named the brand after my rescue dog, Stella, who inspired our mission to help more dogs find their forever homes.

36:53PFT Commenter:Every purchase supports animal rescue organizations. So when you drink Stella Blue, you're not just fueling your day. You're saving a dog's life. Try the new cans today. Head to our store locator on StellaBlueCoffee.com and sign up to redeem a buy one, get one free offer. All right. Hot seat, cool throne. Hank. My hot seat is the USA. Why? we were we were so distraught about this on uh sunday we couldn't even talk about i can't i can't talk about it now but uh we lost the concaf cup yeah yeah to mexico at home we just we just forgot to talk about it because we lost like we that wasn't a bit we came in just to watch it we came in to watch the game we lost and then just didn't mention it in the show yeah but now that it's been a couple days what the fuck is a handball yeah that was a goddamn his hand was literally on the ball yep in the penalty area i know the the cry babies out there will be like well you didn't play the ball the man fell down with his hand stopped the ball with his hand stabilized the ball at his feet stood up and played it that's a fucking handball so i i joined the chorus of those who were saying conca calf rigged they don't want to see the united states win the gold cup they'd much rather have it be mexico and that was our b team anyways yeah who cares it's the four nations we we're not even top 10 in the world we're cooked for the world we suck dude we fucking 17 17 in the world i'm sorry we're not top 10 that's like that's a joke we're seven where you were the united states of america we also didn't have like five of our best players on that roster the i thought this this i thought the concave meant something supposed to be fix it all pochettino he had this whole talk yeah we did his golden generation well he has no excuse okay so if he loses it's the we might suck at soccer yeah we might suck at soccer okay yeah i've been saying that well no no no but the golden generation was not those guys are the ones that weren't playing okay so like the five best players that we have got it like literally the best they were well no not there they're not the best that would be Argentina no the five best the five best that we have yes would they get playing time on other World Cup teams they play on elite World Cup teams they play on elite club teams would they get play on World Cup some of them yes yes some of them some of them yeah probably not top 10 we might suck at some some of them yeah alright what's your cool throw you because you golfed uh oh yeah that also So people without TSA pre-check.

39:30PFT Commenter:Oh. The TSA has finally gotten rid of the, you have to take your shoes off to go through security. Oh, wow. We made it. We made it. How many years was that? 20 years. What was his name? Richard Reed. Reed, yeah. Richard Reed, the shoe bomber, tried to take his shoes off on a flight. By the way, shout out to the passengers on that flight. You remember what he looked like when he got off that? The man's face looked like he just went eight rounds at Holyfield. Yeah. Just all swollen up. But yeah, ever since that one motherfucker tried to do it, then got to take your shoes off. Yeah. Not anymore. Not anymore.

40:02I was going through. I was coming back from Boston last weekend, and the security, the guy at TSA was acting as if it had been a rule for years. He's like, don't take your shoes off. And I was confused, honestly. And then I found out like the next day that they changed the rule. But the guy had acted like they changed the rule like years ago. Hot seat perverts who go to airports to look at feet. Yeah.

40:23PFT Commenter:Can I say something? I didn't even know the rules still existed because I have TSA PreCheck. Well, that's why the cool throne is people that don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So why do you still have to take out their laptops? Probably. TSA PreCheck, you don't. But the cool throne is for people that don't have it. Oh, okay. Like me. Yeah. Never got it. Got it. You neither. Got it. But you still have to take out your laptop. That's fine. Sometimes. The shoes is always the worst. Yeah, laptop's easy. Okay. All right, PFT, your hot seat, cool throne. my hot seat is going to be our list of quarterbacks that we put out on Monday we got a little bit roasted for it we tried to make it as fair as possible but then after that this guy right here you're doing your hot seat Hank's just playing with a golf ball it's no PFT he was like this he was like this while you were talking he can't I want to I want to I want to go back I want to go back throughout the history of the show and see how many times when it when hank's done with his hot seat or with his who's back of the week and it goes to me immediately he checks out and starts doing something i'm not checked that i'm on hank's defense that that he knows is going to distract big cat listening yeah i was trying to listen i'm being active while listening like a cat with a i'm being active while listening okay i'm on your side is that what active listening is that's the exact opposite but I have our list of quarterbacks on the hot seat because a better list of quarterbacks on the hot seat or a better list of quarterbacks in the NFL came out today and that was from Johnny Barks who ranked every NFL quarterback based on how cool they'd be to smoke weed with so I think it's a great list but I disagree vehemently with some of his He had Geno Smith in the top tier in dream rotation.

42:16Okay. His dream rotation was Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield, Gardner Minshew,

42:20PFT Commenter:good pick, and Geno Smith. Okay. I don't know what Geno's doing up there. The nightmare rotation at the very bottom, Russell Wilson. Yes. Agreed. I think he should be on his own. 100%. Aaron Rodgers. I disagree with that. Hard disagree. I disagree with that. Deshaun Watson. Yes. Yeah, fair. And Will Levis was down at the bottom. Disagree. Disagree. I disagree with that as well. I would put Russell Wilson beneath Deshaun Watson. Yeah. For guys to smoke weed. Smoke weed with? Yeah. Yeah. Russell Wilson would pretend he was hallucinating. Oh, yeah. I think I'm having a heart attack. Yeah. Okay, dude.

42:59It'd be bad, but it's a good concept for a list. Yeah, I'm trying to think of who would be the worst besides Russell Wilson,

43:08PFT Commenter:that is, because Russell Wilson is. i gotta say i think i think bo nicks would kind of be annoying yeah he'd be very annoying yeah yeah it's nothing to do with his football skill but i think he'd be annoying he would have the worst playlist yeah he would be he would be annoying um trying to think who else would be not great on that list kirk cousins kirk cousins i feel like kirk cousins as he gets older heart attack he's also in the heart attack category no i think i think might actually be like to get you a water and be like it's cool dude yeah i think like if kirk cousins smoked weed like he wouldn't he would not smoke weed right if you he were to be dosed and he's just going along for the ride he'd just be like let's put on some let's put on a creed album yeah it's so funny right dac would would not be fun dac was way too high up dac was in the chill but we'll hog the ox category uh so was drake may spencer rattler was in that i think he's way down on the list too um the big my big argument with this list you got to put lamar in the top tier right yeah for sure lamar is absolutely the top tier of that 100 was jalen hurts in the top tier uh jalen hurts was he was in the dac prescott category okay hog the ox yeah yeah okay uh we should do one with cocaine quarterbacks you'd like to bang rails with it wouldn't look too dissimilar probably not um no i think yeah just minchu number one yeah yeah yeah uh okay was that your cool throne no that was my hot seat was our list and he started playing with the golf yeah yeah and then my my cool throne is mizrowski again from the brewers yeah so we we talked about him on national sports podcast last week uh mizrowski he struck out 12 gave up four hits one earned run beat out clayton kershaw he's fucking awesome problem if you haven't watched him pitch yet But this dude, he's so fun to watch because he throws the ball like 103 miles per hour every single time.

45:05And he just started in MLB. Yeah. He's a problem. He's the best. He's a problem.

45:11PFT Commenter:All right. My hot seat is Kentucky punter Aiden Leros because he is the only player in the college football 26 game to have a zero toughness ranking. What happened? That's brutal. How do you get that? How do they not even give him like five? I have no idea. That means you're dead. Yeah Zero toughness. I also I really want to play the game but we're on show week but I can't wait to start playing the game because I heard it's really really good. Yeah. Are you a memes? You must be fiending right now Fiending. I'm fired up Well we're not going to see you after like when you get back you're going back to Friday Going back Friday Just see a memes.

45:51PFT Commenter:See ya Yeah. Two straight teams. Locked in the room Ultimate team. Gotta get that going How many titles are you going to win that quick? uh it's a slow build okay slow build okay you gotta find the worst team and then build up uh my other hot seat is hank because uh there was an article in fast company uh about gen zers they are there's a new fad for gen zers uh it is called micro retirements they involve taking a one to two week break from work every 12 to 18 months they're basically just stealing vacations also not enough no it's not enough it's not enough but that's but you can't let them steal the word vacation they're trying to change it to micro retirements yeah that makes no sense yeah it's crazy trying to rebrand it there was one guy in that article that said that he he liked to take a two-week vacation twice a year which is that's more of hank speed yeah yeah what did they did they email you to get comment they did not but micro retirements is just not Yeah, Mike Wartart, that's what Aaron Rodgers does every offseason.

46:57Yeah. He invented that.

46:59PFT Commenter:All right, my cool throne. One is it's Amazon Prime Day for the next three days, as you're listening to this, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. Go to Stella Blue's store if you're a Prime member. Buy, buy, buy. Amazon Prime Day rocks. And then also my cool throne is our guy Zach, because as we're sitting here, this is the first time that Zach has been west of the Mississippi and the first time you have been, what was the other thing we were talking about? We hit top of the United States on the way down. Yep. Seattle, for example. Seattle. So we went all the way left. All the way left. Directionally on the map.

47:37PFT Commenter:Yep. Yep. So you've never been west of the Mississippi. No. And this is like the highest you've been as well. Oh, that's right. That's right. The elevation. Yeah. The mountains are here crazy. So congratulations to you. That's pretty awesome. I appreciate you guys letting me come check out Tile. How do you feel out here? It's wild. Do you feel different on the West Coast? It doesn't like – so driving from Reno to where we're at now, right, it felt like almost as if we were driving through unreal territory just because the mountains are so insanely big on both sides. And I've never seen anything like it.

48:13Like it's something you'd see on like a Microsoft wallpaper of sorts It's sort of like a default iPhone screensaver. Yeah. It's beautiful. But it's real. Yeah. Insanely beautiful.

48:25PFT Commenter:Yeah. And so first time west of Mississippi. How old are you? 27. 27. Yeah. That's huge. So you did it. Yeah, we're checking off states. It's kind of wild. Yeah. Insane. You did Washington, Nevada, and California. And Massachusetts. Oh, yeah. That was two weeks ago. Yeah. So we're at like five different states now. Holy shit. I think I was capped at five before really recently. Yeah. look at you you have one that's next on the list one-fifth uh whatever states open having me okay all right out there any states that want to have zach let him know hank what'd you say well i'll say one once i mean we're gonna have to go to south dakota you want to get down one-fifth i don't know a fifth of what he states he's been he said five or four five oh ten overall okay all right i thought you were saying got it uh all right math zach your hot seat cool My hot seat with you mentioning the Dakotas, so it's 7-7 to 4 in the Mountain Rushmore standings right now.

49:23My hot seat is me and you, big cat. Yeah, we've got to find it. You guys are, it's so early. No, but we... You guys are begging for votes right now.

49:32PFT Commenter:No, we're not. We have a bad... We are making each other laugh, but we're not thinking big picture. Our strategy might be too whimsical in the prep. Correct. I think we are too whimsical. We're kind of giggling too much. We're like 12-year-old girls at a sleepover party when we're doing our prep. Might not be good for success, as we've seen coming out. It'd be hard lines. Yeah. We just have to. I say be true to yourself, Zach. Well, we have been. And also maybe rework. Yeah. All right. And your cool throne? Cool throne is, I hate to do this again, but anybody who's at the house right now on the couch or in the bed or at the desk just ripping college football 26 with a nice beverage beside them just getting into the game.

50:12I hope for all of you that Ultimate Team is not paid to win this year, and I just hope you can have a beautiful experience with not only you, maybe have some of the boys in the party. So you're going to rip it when you get home? Of course. Oh. Wait, what's your college team? College team? I'd like to see the state win. Yeah, the state of Florida. I'd like to see the state win, yeah. Never graduated from a full university, so I don't have the most insane ties. So I'd just like to see the state win.

50:35PFT Commenter:Yeah, love that. So are you going to just hop around the state when you play? Uh... for college football, I try to base on uniforms early. So any uniforms that are enticing, I'll try to go with them. So season one, what school are you playing? I'm not sure yet. That's an in-the-moment thing. That's an at-the-desk decision. You got to update people. I can do that for you. Yeah, yeah. Let them know. Let them know. That's what you picked. Okay. Good hot seat, cool throne. Great fruit of the loom underwear. Let's get to our interview with Dan Patrick. Awesome interview. Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest, recurring guest.

51:16PFT Commenter:It is the legend, Dan Patrick, who still has two and a half years left in his career. Dan, thank you always for coming on. We love having you on. Should we talk about the retirement tour? Because it's... Okay. It wasn't set up to be that. I said this is the last contract I was going to sign. Is this the technicality that you're doing? Yes. Are you doing the immunize that Rogers did? I said this would be the last contract. Then it became a retirement. I didn't mean for it to be a four-year retirement tour. So you're working for free after your contract's up, is what you're saying. You're not going to sign a contract.

51:52PFT Commenter:I won't be working. Yeah, you won't be working. I'll be strictly Sandler movies. Okay, wait. Are you actually going to retire in two and a half years? Yes. And do you not feel like you're going to miss this and doing all this? because you're still at the top of your game, and you're still put on a great show. I just feel like, I guess it's more I'm projecting here, where someday I'd like to retire, but I don't know if I could give it up. Well, I still have a broadcasting school. I'll still do things. It's just, I don't know, there's things I want to do. Like, I want to move to Italy. Oh, that's a big thing.

52:29I want to learn Italian. My wife's Italian. I got grandkids. I mean, there's things to do. I got a place in Maine. I started fishing again. So I don't know. I've been working five, six, seven days a week for almost 35 years. And so it's time. Plus, you don't want to get to that point where people are laughing at you, not with you. And I went through a period where I really struggled. I was going through health issues. And I said to Pauly, I leaned on Pauly more than I ever have my producer because I couldn't remember Albert Pujols' name. I couldn't remember Tom Izzo's name during the show. And I panicked.

53:15And it made me start to realize, okay, you just don't want to be that guy. And I think it kind of put the wheels in motion of, I rely on the Danettes, my guys a lot more than I used to on the air and off the air because I want them ready, whatever they do after this. So it's a long-winded way of saying two and a half years and then I'll be done.

53:40PFT Commenter:Can I give you a tip for the Dan Patrick School of Journalism? And we're happy to teach a course. We've done it before. Yeah, we have. We've taught courses before. So you mentioned you don't want to be that guy who makes the mistakes on air. The tip is be that guy who makes mistakes on air your entire career like we do. Yes. And then no one's ever going to notice when we get old. Like they're disappointed when you don't make mistakes. Correct. We fuck up things every day. And how did you say that? How did you not know that? It's like, that's kind of the beauty of it. We never pretended to be professional.

54:13Yeah. That was your fault. Yeah. That was your mistake. We're taking that bullet away from you. You can't be like, oh, very, very unprofessional. No, but I think that that was brilliant from your guys' perspective. First of all, young, you're going against everybody. You're going against the world. How do you stand out? But to be almost counterintuitive to what people were doing, that everybody's trying to get the right guest and ask the right questions, where you might get the wrong guest and ask the wrong questions, or even the right guest and ask the wrong questions, then things go viral. And I never really looked at, like McAfee with YouTube, like those numbers, that's really all that matters.

54:52PFT Commenter:It's insane. And I've been with terrestrial radio all my life, and you keep thinking of those ratings, those ratings. Now, nobody cares about that. They care about social media, what went viral, the number of people watching clips. And that's what you guys have been able to do. McAfee's been able to do that as well. So when it comes to terrestrial radio, how do those ratings get actually sorted out? I've always wondered. I still don't even know. They just tell me. Like one day they're going to say, hey, come here, bring your playbook. You're done. and they could be something random like that. We'll be in a market and they'll go, you're killing it, but they want to go local.

55:33And I'll go, what does that mean? So then you're not an affiliate in Portland, Maine. Meanwhile, you thought you were doing great in Portland, Maine. So I don't like being beholden to that because face it, you have a lot of people who are in radio who your boss is who probably haven't done radio. Right. And I think it's unfair sometimes with they project to what you should be doing or why aren't you doing or why didn't you ask. When you're in the chair and there lie bullets, I mean, it's just different. Are you just saying that you're going to move to Maine to get your numbers up in Portland, Maine?

56:10Is this a trick? In Italy? I'm going to have one affiliate. Yeah. It's Portland, Maine. Yeah. So wait, go back to Italy for a second. Describe to me your perfect day, ideally, 10 years from now. How do you spend your day in Italy? Up early. uh probably i'm already out retirement yeah how early no uh probably six okay that's not bad so up early and then uh probably out the door uh probably living somewhere along the water uh probably a nice lunch they don't do brunch over there they don't really do breakfast i don't think either they smoke cigarettes yeah they do and drink wine yeah but they all look pretty healthy they do yeah i mean but they're you know you can't go wrong over there with the food um i think whatever the day would bring over there would be great fishing uh hiking biking uh but trying to learn the language yeah i want to take dance lessons too oh wow yeah all right i have two

57:09PFT Commenter:questions about italy though that i'd be concerned about moving now is this product placement with the shoes yeah oh yeah okay you do we'll get you a pair we're bill what size are you 11 and a half just just miss being a real man with 12s that's tough pfts not a real man yeah i'm a boy i'm a boy it's weird that 12 was the number i picked i happen to be 12 all right so michael jordan 13 yeah yeah italy are you worried about getting all the games being able to watch the games and two are you worried about all the perverts a lot of perverts in italy there's perverts all over yeah Italy's got a lot.

57:45They elect him president.

57:47PFT Commenter:Listen, my kids are a quarter Italian. I can say this. There's perverts in Italy. I don't know if being quarter you can't. No, they're quarter. No, no. It's like size 12. I know you've got to be at least half. Okay. Well, I'm a father. I'm an Italian father. I have children that are Italian, so I'm an Italian father. Okay. All right. All right. I guess a loophole. So are you worried about that? No, I'm not. And I'm not worried about the games either. Okay. Are you going to watch the games? I don't know. That's crazy to me. because I, I, you gotta, you gotta escape it occasionally. Yeah. Cause you know, if I'm at home and my wife would say, are you going to watch blah, blah, blah.

58:23And I'll go, I'm watching diners, drive-ins and dives right now. Like I'll get to, cause if not, you never get away from it ever. And Fritzie, my booker is constantly sending me emails and texts of guests or stories. And then Paulie gets in on the chain, you know, then all of a sudden it's 10 o 'clock at nine 30 at night and you're going, got to go to bed and then turn around and then get ready to go the next morning. You got to get away from it. I think to come back to it and love it.

58:49PFT Commenter:Yeah. But I mean, like an NFL Sunday. I don't, I I'm, I'm okay. Okay. I love it. I love it. But I, I, I, I, you know, I choke it. Yeah. I need to get back. I mean, this is good. This is good because I do think that there are a lot of people in our profession that don't love it and they pretend to kind of keep loving it and you it shows you know what i mean where they're they're almost mad at having to watch the games and it's like if you if you don't like watching the sports that you're covering why are you covering it i think it's the one thing that people don't understand because i say to them the other i go you're lucky you get to watch games i said but it's my job yeah like i don't get away from it i have to know everything it's live and when you fuck up and then somebody said how can you not you know blah blah blah you know i have to know every trivial pursuit i don't like playing it but i'm always in another room and they'll go roger maris you know 1961 and i go 61 omers you know and then they're like okay oh okay for a pie like that's not any fun you don't get away from it yeah yeah yeah is there a sport that that you've retained your love four more than the others?

1:00:02I think it's storylines. Like if there's a storyline, it doesn't matter what it is. It could be golf. It could be, you know, even tennis. If Djokovic goes and plays, you know, in the finals at Wimbledon, that's a great story. Football's always got storylines. Baseball is a little harder to find those storylines that stay true. Basketball, you know, storylines is i don't root for anybody like you know you're a commanders fan or everything washington dc but i gave that up when i when i started at espn i gave up my fandom i'm from ohio i didn't root for anybody in cincinnati bengals the reds gave it up but i do miss that yeah like i miss that pain yeah like when you get crushed or when you win like i do miss that yeah and the Bengals go to the Super Bowl and people like oh man are you crushed they lost I go no yeah they they played well but it was a good storyline for the Rams as well and that's what people don't understand is I got to look at it not as a fan but this is a job and you got to do it correctly you got to put in the time when you have interviews you can't you can't cheat the audience you just you know they tune in and I tell them hey I got this guy coming up or this person then I want you to listen because you trust me that I'll do a good interview.

1:01:27PFT Commenter:Yeah. But if you try to mail it in, man, it always gets you. Always. What is your, what's your go-to like interview move or something that you're like, this has worked throughout my career because you're a fantastic interviewer and you, you, you do such a great job of, I feel like almost disarming the guests where you ask a straight question that's very simple, but gets a great answer. So what, what is it about? Like, did you, was that something you had to work on or did you just have that? You mean you taking a long-winded way of asking me how bad? Yeah, I did a bad job. No, I did a bad job. I knew halfway through that question.

1:01:59PFT Commenter:I was like, I'm fucking up the question, complimenting you about how good you are at asking questions. Dan, if you were to rephrase that and ask yourself that same question, how would that go? What makes you a good interviewer? Okay. That's good. I think you just answered the question and asked. Yeah, yeah. That's my pet peeve. Yeah. Ask, answer, ask. Yeah. Because I love to - God damn it, I fucking said. I like to ask you a question so you don't get time to think. Because even today when we talked and you said, oh, that's a great question. Well, you're stalling to come up with an answer. But when you can get somebody, like I want LeBron to ask Kevin Durant, do you think you're better than me on his podcast?

1:02:41Or Steve Nash, ask Durant if he thinks he's better than LeBron. Like I think that that would be awesome. I'd love to do that. And then LeBron, to go back at Kevin Durant. I mean, they're greats of all time. Why do you think you're better than me? Then you could kind of go back at that. But to get a short question to people and not let them load up, because if you do ask, answer, ask, then they got something for you.

1:03:08PFT Commenter:All right, I'm going to do a round of it. Okay, here's one. I'll go first. No, we're going to get you. Go ahead. Because I was going to say, favorite color? Blue. Blue. That's why we love each other. Me too. Why did you turn down Price is Right? Because I was still in a sports mode. I wasn't ready for a game show. Yeah. And it's 1999, and I get a call out of the blue and said, Hey, are you interested in Price is Right? I thought they were selling me something. I didn't know what it was. and they said we're interested in having you host Price is Right and we checked with Bob Barker and he signed off on you hosting Price is Right.

1:03:55We want to build a set in San Antonio where the NBA finals were and we want to just see you on stage and we're going to build the set. And I just remember hanging up the phone and going I don't know what that was and then I said well for shits and giggles, I go, well, what's it pay? And they said, if you take the job, we'll tell you. So, I go home and I say to my wife, hey, I got offered the job at Price is Right. She goes, well, you turned it down. I go, not exactly. I just wanted to know what it paid. She goes, what's it paying? They said, if I take the job. And she goes, you're turning it down, right?

1:04:37And I said, well, I will, but it's not because of that. I just didn't think I could do it well enough. and then I was up for who wants to be a millionaire so I meet with the guy who started the show

1:04:50PFT Commenter:Michael Davies yep yeah Century City he worked on Barstool Vantock yeah another long running show he's yes the long running show yeah so I'm it flies me out so I want to talk to you about hosting a game show I said all right we go in we watch Japanese game shows for probably 90 minutes he hadn't offered me anything. And then all of a sudden he goes, man, these are fucking great, aren't they? And I said, yeah, sure. And he goes, all right, we're going to do the show. He goes, God damn it. Regis won't leave me alone. What are we doing here? And then he goes, okay, hold on. I got to get a game show for Regis Philbin, okay?

1:05:33But I want you to, it's called Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? You're going to, do you want to host Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? I said, I'm open. I don't know. I'm open to it. He goes, I got to get fucking Regis a game show. And so I go home, and my wife goes, what was it? And I said, who wants to be a millionaire, the whole concept? And she goes, are you going to take it? I go, I don't know. I think it hinges on Regis Philbin getting a game show. So she goes, okay. And I do explain it. As God is my witness, I did not hear back from Michael Davies. until I saw on TV Guide Regis Philbin was going to host Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.

1:06:16Found out through the press. Yeah. And I, for 10 years, I waited for Michael Davies to apologize to him. And he had some game show that he called me about. His assistant did. And I said, tell Michael to call me. And he forgot all about it. and like, hey, dude, I'm waiting for the call to be who wants to be a millionaire. And he goes, oh, are you still hung up on that? I go, hung up on that? I flew out here. You were going to give me the job. Regis had to get a game show, and I'm hung up on it. So there's been three or four game shows that I had the opportunity to do. Jeopardy? I... Well... That's a great question I just asked.

1:07:02It was one word. Yeah. Great question, PFT. Wait a minute, hold on. Ask it again, let me do the phone. What is Jeopardy? Great question. Jeopardy, were you in discussions for the Jeopardy? I was. I met with Steve Mosko, who was the head of Sony, and that day on my show, for some reason, the guys were asking about what game show would you host, and I said Jeopardy. show ends get a call Steve Mosco from Sony he's in France and he says hey I'm going to be in New York I'm going to talk to you about hosting Jeopardy now I just think he's fucking with me like maybe somehow he heard I was talking about Jeopardy and I had met him one other time and I meet him in New York and then he said look if Alex doesn't sign this contract I want you to be the host of Jeopardy.

1:07:58I said, okay. And he goes, in the meantime, we're going to do Sports Jeopardy. Have you host that? It'll be on the set. I want you to have dinner with Alex. And so all these things happened. Had dinner with Alex. He wasn't sure if he was going to resign. And I'm doing Sports Jeopardy. And then all of a sudden, Sports Jeopardy, Alex resigns. Steve Mosco gets fired at Sony and then all of a sudden nothing happened but it was quick it was and I would have taken that job I think you've been good at that I would I loved it it was quick it was fun the staff was unbelievable the knowledge research that you were around was spectacular but I that would have been one you could have done and they said look you're going to work 48 days a week and you would do five shows a day.

1:08:55Alex was a monster, man. He was a machine. He was unbelievable. And I remember when he had had surgery on his knee and he insisted on going out there and he's hobbling and he was a tough, tough SOB. But he knew that I was there and I'm kind of, and I hated that feeling. And I, I still have the voicemail when he called me to have me go to dinner and we went at five o 'clock. So, and we just sat there and he gave me his, his marker that he uses. So I could use that on sports jeopardy, made an appearance on sports jeopardy, but that would, that was one that looking back, if I had the opportunity, I probably would have left sports.

1:09:37PFT Commenter:I am mad at you about prices, right? Though that is, I have a dream job. That is my dream. But you could do that. I would leave everything for that right now. Yes, that's the best. It's the greatest game show. It is. I used to watch it all the time. What's your favorite game show, PFT? I mean, I've always been a fan of Jeopardy. I like that one. I do like the Japanese game shows, like the Wipeouts, like those. I would say Jeopardy is 1-1 for me. It's top of the list, yeah. Price is right. It's pretty good. The skinny microphone. Did you at least hold the skinny microphone? I would have if I let him.

1:10:13You have to take the job first. It's great. Yeah, they don't give you the microphone. You've got to take the job. But, you know, Drew Carey has done a wonderful job. He has. I'm not saying that. But that's, you know, there's part of you that I never wanted to be, you know, I had a chance to be an entourage. But I didn't want to fuck up a show that I really liked. Right. I didn't want to do a corny cameo. And then I've done 21 cameos with Sandler. Those are great. Yeah, you know. Happy Gilmore, too. Yeah. You know, so, but it's, I think I've aged out of the game show.

1:10:46PFT Commenter:What was your best cameo? The one that you say, I nailed that. I think when I did, what was it, Just Go With It? With Brooklyn Decker. Okay. Nicole Kidman, Jennifer Aniston. And I play a nightclub owner. I don't want to spoil if you guys haven't seen this. No, no, no. My favorite movie. Yeah. Okay. So I'm on stage, Dave Matthews, Sandler, Kidman, Aniston. This is the greatest name drop of all time. And there's a dance contest. So I'm hosting. And Aniston looked incredible. God damn. There was a moment when I'm shooting my scene. I don't even know if I think I said the words, but I'm just staring at her.

1:11:35And I'm going, God damn it. She is unbelievable. Kidman had just had a baby like six months earlier, whatever. She is ripped, like incredibly ripped. And I just remember being on stage and Aniston and Kidman are there. And I'm thinking, do they know that I can't act? Because they kept looking at me like I knew what I was doing. And then Dave Matthews was there as well. And he was a lot of fun. But that's where sandler just said ad lib yeah and i used a line with a woman i called her big country and uh and they kept it in you really got to make sure to hit the ry on there yeah yeah yes tree yeah but yeah she looked like brian reeves a little bit yeah have you have you well have you played basketball with adam sandler yeah many times and how good is he he carries the ball okay so there There we go.

1:12:31PFT Commenter:We've got to start calling that. Bad shot. Yeah. It goes in. That would be a good shot. You can have a bad shot that goes in. Yes. But it is still a good shot. I mean, it's not Ray Allen. Yeah. But I met with Sandler, I don't know, three or four weeks ago, having dinner. I said, you know, hey, it's kind of a nice place in New York. He goes, all right, Danny, I'm going to go play basketball before. So I'm thinking, all right, he's going to play at five. we're eating at six, chances are he's going to come in with floral shirt, basketball, you know, trunks and the whole thing. Sure enough, I'm sitting there.

1:13:10It's a really nice place. Sandman walks in, floral, you know, print shirt on, basketball. He's sweating and sits down. Nobody sits. Everybody, it's a dress code. Sandman had just played hoops. Just walked on, doesn't know anybody. Just walked over, started playing, and he said one guy just kept coming after him, going, Kyrie, motherfucker. Kyrie. Sandler goes, I don't know why he was saying that. But he loves pickup. Every time I've done a movie, there is something, well, he'll want to go play basketball. Always built in for his time. And he had Timothee Chalamet out there playing. Big Hooper.

1:13:57but Sandman will play anywhere. Yeah. With anybody. I just looked up Jennifer Aniston and just go with it. You're right. She's stunning. That's stunning. Accurate description of her. Stunning. Thank you. Goddamn. I am a journalist. Yes. But she and Brooklyn Decker. Yep. Andy Roddick's wife. Swimsuit model. Very nice lady. Yeah. Very pretty. Yeah. She liked that. So just to put to bed though, not to harp on Price is Right, I heard the rumor that you didn't take the job because you were anti-spay, anti-neuter. Yeah. I'm anti-spay. I'm not anti-neuter. Just so you know. But somebody did ask me that about the job and that Bob Barker wanted to know.

1:14:39PFT Commenter:What's your stance? What's your policy on dog testicles? And I said, you can fucking spay me if you want. Just tell me how much money I'm going to make. Maybe that was what it was. We'll tell you the money once you get spayed. It was$10 million. was it back then for and that's 1999 yeah a year yeah you're such an asshole for not i know i know i know but i i wasn't ready for it though yeah i i i wanted to do the olympics i still wanted to do super bowl like there there were things i wanted to do and you did them all yes is is there one thing that you do regret like a sliding doors moment of your career no because i was so lucky to even get to a point if there's a sliding door yeah i because i never i didn't take it for granted at all because i'm from a small town in ohio and you know i'm handing out the super bowl trophy yeah i mean that's pretty cool how cool is that what was that like preparing to hand out the trophy.

1:15:45I was thinking about that earlier today. That's a small moment, but probably a very big moment for the person that's doing it, right? You know, it's the kind of thing where you just don't screw up. Nobody's really going to remember you're handing out the trophy unless something happens. That's all. And the first time I did it, it was Cardinals-Steelers in Tampa. Dramatic finish, Roethlisberger, touchdown pass. I'm on the podium, and it happens so quick. Roger Goodell's up there, and he keeps asking me questions. I'm trying to find out who the MVP is. I'm assuming it's Roethlisberger, but it's not.

1:16:25But I'm yelling to people, anybody, who's the MVP. It's chaos. Roethlisberger comes up. Santonio Holmes comes up. Steeler ownership comes up. But Roger keeps saying, are you going to introduce, are you going to introduce, will you introduce me? Yes, yes. Like I'm telling the commissioner, like, you know, I'll get to you in a minute. Joe Namath starts walking up with the Super Bowl trophy. The C's part, football players are touching it. I still don't know who the MVP is. And so I'm talking to my producer, well, he's talking to me. He goes, Bob's going to throw it to you. You know, two questions, two questions, two questions.

1:17:02Don't give up the microphone. now there's a hundred million people watching but they're not watching for me unless something bad happens so thankfully i i just yell again who is the mbp and somebody goes homes well roethlisberger i truly believe ben thought he was going to be the mbp because i like he's looking at me like yep i know it yep you're gonna and it never happened obviously we do the whole ceremony and I didn't tell anybody in my family I was giving out the trophy. Then I get all these messages. You're handing out the trophy. Like, they don't know how to respond to it. It's a cool moment.

1:17:42But, yes, I wanted them to see it, and then I didn't want to tell them. Did you also hand it to Belichick? Was that your Super Bowl? Yeah. Against Seattle, right after Deflake. It was, like, right in the middle of that, right? Yes. Was Goodell, was he acting different up on the podium? No, not at all. This is my nightmare? Not at all. but here's the i had two moments that one was with one of the giants owners who once again you never give up the microphone because it's really quick two questions two questions two questions you got to get back to bob and get off the air because you have programming coming in they spent a lot of money to follow right one of the owners grabs so i have the microphone he grabs the microphone.

1:18:25Now you, you can't tell this if you're watching, but he, I'm pulling this way to the right. He's pulling this way to the left. He wants that microphone. I can't give that up. My producer in my ear, do not give up the microphone. So he now knows that I'm not going to give it up. And then he, they think they're live at the improv. Like these owners, like, hello, America, You know, the Eagles owner tried to do that as well, Lori. And then the other time was when Eli had a car dealership that I think was Toyota or Nissan. And he was the MVP. Yeah. So I'm reading the card. It'll be like such and such blank.

1:19:08It has won the, you know, this black on black Corvette, you know, L1 something. and so I'm reading this. Eli walks off the stage. So I have the keys. I can't hand out the car because Eli doesn't want to be associated with Chevrolet. Yeah. So we love. Bad guy. Bad guy. So I, yes, we love Chevrolet. We love Chevrolet. So I'm yelling. This is live. I'm yelling at Eli. I was like, Eli!

1:19:46PFT Commenter:Eli! He came back up, and I go, here are your keys. I mean, years later, he admitted that he did that to me, but he didn't. He had a Nissan, I don't know, some kind of Toyota. Just take the keys. Take the keys. And I almost did this to Brady on the podium. After the Malcolm Butler interception, it still haunts me because I came so close to almost doing this. and I almost said to Brady, you know, that truck belongs to Malcolm Butler. Oh, you should have. It would have been – but I couldn't do it in that moment. No. But damn, was I so close because it belonged to Malcolm Butler. Yeah. You're not wrong.

1:20:30Yeah. And I thought, God damn, would that be good if all of a sudden Malcolm Butler came up there and got his truck. Tom had to give it to him. I think somebody said Tom may have given it to him.

1:20:41PFT Commenter:I bet you he did. but that would have been but that would have been unfair to tom to go you know tom without malcolm butler you're not up here that would have been great though to watch the wheels turn in his head as he's got the keys i'm like oh okay what am i supposed to say yeah yeah that's not scripted that cardinal stealer super bowl that was madden's last super bowl was not um believe so i'll have to look it up someone fact check for me did you work with john madden that was the question i only around him okay i never worked okay yeah never worked bad question That's okay. Yeah. I mean, if you did research, you probably wouldn't know.

1:21:15Well, I think I was right. I think that was. But I didn't work. Maybe Diva Dan didn't work with John Madden, but other people did. He didn't work with me.

1:21:22PFT Commenter:Okay, got it. Yeah. Wait, which one's Diva Dan? Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha. Diva Dan. Okay. We got to specify. Who's born a Diva? We got a Dan off. We got a Dan off. Who do you think? Well, I mean, I haven't asked. I have 21 Adam Sandler movies. Yeah. It's pretty evident. You've never asked? Big Cat's not on a four-year retirement tour. Yeah, I'm not yet. One time. Hey, everyone, I'm retiring in four years. Please talk about me. But that wouldn't every time. This is my last contract that I'm going to sign. Dan Patrick was brought to you by Truly Unruly, the high-alc hard seltzer that drinks light before he's hard.

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1:22:20PFT Commenter:By the way, I do want to offer when you do retire, if you ever have a day where you're like, man, I got a take. I want to get it off. You can always come here. We will always accept Dan Patrick from Italy hot takes. Because you will have that moment where you're like, I'd like to discuss something. I'm going to do it in Italian. Okay, that's fine. We would learn Italian to translate. I'll do it my hot take in Italian. I wonder if they have hot take TV over there. They have to in Italy. I think they do. Rick Riley moved over there, right? I believe so. I think he did. For a while. Oh, really? Yeah.

1:22:53PFT Commenter:Oh, now it doesn't sound like you want to go to Italy. Yeah. Come sail away. That place isn't big enough for two of you. Maybe the pervert thing was right. I think I had. I look like France now. South of France. Switzerland. I think I had a falling out with Rick Riley, and I don't know why we had a falling out. I know why you had a falling out. I think it had something to do with when you left ESPN Radio. He said it was the biggest career mistake. Oh, yeah, he called Shelly Long. Yeah, it's going to be like Shelly Long leaving, Katie Couric going to CBS Nightly News, and Dan Patrick leaving ESPN.

1:23:28Yeah. It would be the three biggest media mistakes. Oh, that's why I met Matt Hattie. Okay, thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you proved everyone wrong. I did. Son of a bitch. I said, I'll prove you wrong, dude.

1:23:39PFT Commenter:Yeah, well, you did, because you were the first big guy to leave. And that had to have been at least a little scary, I'd imagine. Oh, frightening. Because there was this smear campaign that started. Any radio affiliate that had my show, you'd be dropped as an ESPN affiliate if you decided you still wanted to carry me. It's mafia shit. It was heavy-handed. But I understood. It empowered me. Like, holy shit. I'm going to matter. they're gonna have to deal with me right and and look in my mind that that i loved you know david against goliath i'm sure they didn't care but in my mind i would tell the danettes i'm like these motherfuckers man we're coming after them i don't think anybody was shaking in their boots because we were doing our little show i think they were trying to send a message to the the talent that they still have like if you leave yeah there's no doubt yeah no i probably had four people um one big name and the other three were probably recognizable names.

1:24:39They wanted to know about leaving. And I said, don't leave. They're like, why? I go, it's a million. I mean, it's even larger odds than that. I was doing this show in my attic for two years. We didn't have it made. There was a six month period where I made sure the Danettes cashed their checks because I didn't know if we were going to make payroll. We changed ownership and that changed everything for us. But it was not, I was, it was not a success story, but I did it on, I had to do it. I had four kids. They were young. I had three daughters. I had to be at home and I was selfish for, I mean, I'm on sports center.

1:25:23Like I don't, come on. Yeah. Kids will raise them and think, come on. I'm on sports. Don't you know who I am? You can watch them on TV. I'll parent them on TV. Booyah. And I just, I remember I listened to my wife because I was going to sign a five-year deal. That morning I'm driving up, I'm going to sign a five-year deal. And she just said, the kids are all going to be out of the house. And you're going to be a mess. And she was right. And when I said no, I didn't even know what I said no to. But it was quick. They wanted me out. And then I'm trying to get Seton and Fritzie to join me. Paulie was already going to join me.

1:26:06And then I remember reaching out and Fritzie had a too good of a job. Like he was a big deal at ESPN. And I knew I just couldn't get him to go. And I realized that. Seton was just on the verge of doing things. And, but man, he was all in. He was all in. And so I was like, let's just try this. Let's see. I mean, I can always go back to TV somewhere. I knew I had NBC, knew NBC wanted me to do the Olympics and football night in America. So I at least had some TV exposure, but I missed sports center.

1:26:43PFT Commenter:I loved it. I loved it. I love that it's live 11 o 'clock at night loved it but i did the six o 'clock sports center and i'm throwing out to sal palantonio and i just remember i'm throwing out to him and i it gets to him and i said god damn it i'm mailing this in i felt like a fraud because i i didn't want to do the six o 'clock but i had to get home instead of working second shift and i said that i can't do this anymore Sal Pal sucked your life out of the business for you. If I was throwing it out to Susie Colbert, I might still be there. Different story. But it was Sal. But it hit me hard that I'm taking a job from somebody.

1:27:27PFT Commenter:Yeah. And somebody who should be in that chair, somebody younger. And it's the first time I really thought about an exit strategy. And I remember telling my wife, I said, I got to get out of there. But I couldn't. It's like Alcatraz. They never tell you when anybody gets to the other shore. Right. Never. And they did their damnedest to make sure that I didn't get to the shore. So all these years doing radio at ESPN and then outside of ESPN radio, I'm sure there are some topics that you just got sick of discussing. Do you have any off-limit topics? Like, you will not talk about these issues anymore.

1:28:01Well, I don't go out of my way to talk about the Cowboys or LeBron. And Paulie is really good. He's got a great news sense. Like, if there's a story, then we'll cover it. But, you know, you get late July or, you know, June, July, man, it's back to the Cowboys and LeBron. Now, sometimes they're warranted, but I just can't do that to the audience. I cannot. That I'm not, and I should play the hits. I think your audience probably respects you for it, for not doing it. Now, Dak Prescott just said that his hamstring is almost fully healed. He should be good to go next year. What are your thoughts on that?

1:28:39And what's his legacy? His legacy. Yeah. Yeah, like what is – how does Kevin Durant going to the Rockets affect his legacy, Dan? No, because it's usually where we connect the dots of KD going to the Rockets. How does that affect LeBron?

1:28:54PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's never – Yeah, what does that mean for LeBron? You know, Jackson Dart, great training camp. Uh-huh. How is Dak Prescott doing in Dallas? Yeah. You know, it's like let me use that to jump over here. This puts more pressure on Dak Prescott. This is the most pressure Dak Prescott has ever been under. But also you get, we had talking, not talking points, but we had topics we had to talk about on ESPN. And it was all, you're in an echo chamber. You would, everything you were talking about was talked about, will be talked about. Let's have a guest to talk about the ESPN hockey game.

1:29:31Bill Clement joins us now to talk about, let's bring in Peter Gammons to talk about the Sunday night. Yep. So you didn't, and I just said, let's just do, who you know what we want to do yeah and i i couldn't do formulaic and i'm fortunate that my affiliates you know with fox and premier and those kind of partners they let me do what i want to do i just said just trust me if you don't like it then you know drop me as an affiliate but i i especially portland maine but i i i there's so much fun every day the my favorite espn thing they do

1:30:07PFT Commenter:is someone says something outlandish in the morning and then the rest of the day they just Just keep repeating that. It's like, where did this come from? I remember Ron Jaworski said that Colin Kaepernick could go down as the best quarterback of all time in the NFL. And then for, I think it was like a week after that, he was on every show. It was on the bottom line of other shows being like, Ron Jaworski says that Colin Kaepernick. How did this happen? It didn't used to be that way. But, you know, I'm the get-off-the-lawn guy. But SportsCenter, when we first started doing highlights, you didn't know what – you could know the final score, but you didn't know the highlights.

1:30:44And so we got to build an audience, and that was what was great, is you were tuning in to watch the highlights. And it was such a built-in home court advantage. And we took advantage of that. I mean, that was where it was, you know, it was boy band crazy at times. You were also setting the discussion and setting the agenda for what you're going to talk about when it comes to that game, too, because a lot of people might not have seen the game, but they tune in, find the final score, find the highlights direct from you. Whereas now it's like they've probably seen all the highlights a thousand times before they watch SportsCenter on their phones, on the screen, whatever it is.

1:31:22And so the narratives have already kind of gotten started before ESPN has a chance to set what that narrative is. But, yeah, you're tuning in now to hear why that happened. Right.

1:31:32PFT Commenter:Yeah. Whereas we're going to show you how it happened. Now it's OK. I know that then you have to start a discussion. And we didn't have to do that. Now you could do it a day later when shows would say, let's talk about that. And it was legitimate. Now these shows, you know, just feels like and the pressure was there. We had to talk about Duke basketball. We had to talk about if it was Tyson, Terrell Owens, Red Sox, Yankees. always always always up to the middle on tol yeah that's what i appreciated constant because they were playing the hits and you know after a while you just i remember when when mickey mannell died and i was with keith overman and we said we want the first 15 minutes to be about Mickey Mantle.

1:32:23And they were like, what? We said, no, the first segment of SportsCenter should be on Mickey Mantle. What he meant, I mean, and, you know, Keith would always fight the, he had a great new sense. He was unbelievable as a partner, unbelievable. But we fought that. We had to call bosses at home and we said we're we're doing the first 15 minutes on mickey mantle and that's one of those where years later looking back that's that's as proud as i ever was about doing something and going against what was probably the norm yeah you know they would expect but there were times when you know they allowed you to we we weren't allowed to do anything catchphrases they they didn't want any of that stuff.

1:33:16Nothing. Fought us. Got called into conference rooms, yelled at. And I kept thinking, God damn, I thought we were popular. And I realized we were, but then a member of management said, we don't want another Berman. And I went, why wouldn't you want another, somebody that popular? But they couldn't control. and that's where so we had to kind of surreptitiously sneak in stuff yeah doing the highlights uh we had built-in jokes we made fun of management but that was the best tv of my life yeah yeah it was so much fun because they didn't want us to have fun now they go back and say oh you know we were we're responsible for one of my bosses i'm like shut the fuck up yeah right you weren't right you made us better by not maybe allowing us to do a little bit more so in in context full context it made us sharper because we had to be yeah sneak it now they got it on the

1:34:23PFT Commenter:wall yes you don't have a catchphrase you can't come in here yeah uh you have a sports gambling podcast i started it because i don't gamble anymore okay so dan patrick takes a gamble yes Go subscribe. DanPatrick.com. And I had a friend named Bad Larry and he lives in Jersey. I already like him. First time I meet him, he says, you get off exit 98, you ask anybody where Bad Larry lives, they'll tell you. This guy's awesome. And it's true. God's honest truth. Where's exit 98? They know. It's like Seagirt or Spring Lake. Bad Larry. Well, he'd always tell me these gambling stories. He'd won every gamble.

1:35:05He's like Floyd Mayweather. Of course. Like, God damn, he's winning every one of these. And I thought, you know what? Let me start a podcast with Bad Larry. And then Dylan, who used to answer phones and help build the place running cable. And then he was graphics. And now he's on the gambling podcast with us. and then we have Shea and Irving who is just this crazy random guy who's a crazy cowboy fan and he's comes in every week we do the gambling podcast and you just you get around to talking about the games but it's about crazy stuff I mean yeah Shea will talk about going to therapy with his wife um you know Dylan did nine hot dogs nine beers and nine innings we talked about that uh bad larry had to get new teeth for his daughter's wedding and we talked you know just normal silly stupid things but we have so much fun and it makes me realize why i i can never gamble again yeah because it was bad yeah yeah i i i was all in but i was i i made money but i lost a bet i think it was arkansas oklahoma bowl game and i lost three grand i was up six i lost three grand.

1:36:22So I lost 3 ,300 closed up shop, paid some school loans, bought my mom a dishwasher and never placed another bet again.

1:36:32PFT Commenter:That's for you. I mean, I go, yeah, that's, that's smart, but I love gambling. So I don't think that day, but I, I don't enjoy winning that money as much as I hate losing it. And I can never watch a game that I bet on. Oh, I, that's all I know, but I love it. Friends would say, you know, Hey, uh, I don't know if you want to watch the Browns and the Raiders and I go yeah sure and they go yeah I got to put something on it yeah see that's yeah I mean it's to each their own I I'm a losing gambler my whole life uh but my happy place is like a Tuesday night in the middle of January just being like all right there's 25 college basketball games I can sit on the couch and watch all these I'm in I love it my book there's like a pack not the pack 12 anymore but there's a late night you know Washington Oregon Mountain West game yeah yeah yeah Nevada yeah place to play I'm gonna tune in at 11 p.m.

1:37:24PFT Commenter:mid-summer baseball and you become an expert on Mountain West football all of a sudden it's the best I love it so we I mean we do have to talk about we try to talk about all the major sports on this show uh but sometimes like right before the all-star break in baseball the games aren't that interesting yeah not all the time but you bet on four of them per night and guess what now it's not forcing yourself I I look at it like I'm doing my homework when I do that. So I'm going to watch the games. Then I'll at least know what's going on in Major League Baseball. But that's why I got into fantasy.

1:37:53Yeah. Because it helped me stay up on everybody in stats. Stratomatic. I don't know if you ever heard of Stratomatic Baseball. But it helped me memorize stats. But my bookie died at his kitchen table on a Sunday morning. Did you have a balance?

1:38:11PFT Commenter:I was up. Okay. That's too bad. Because Dave, our boss, famously, his bookie died and he was down big and it was a big day for him. But one of my bookies used to take bets from Pete Rose. And I just got to ESPN when this happened. Just left CNN, went to ESPN. And I go in there and I'm working with Bob Lee. And Bob is, you know, journalism personified. And I said, look, I got a great source. and he's going to give us information in my book he said just don't mention my name that was it and i to this day i've never mentioned his name but he would get steve jim bad larry but he would get sometimes that his pete's main book he would lay off bets to my guy right and i remember he would joke about it because you know pete he would say uh you know your boy just put like pete would bet on vancouver canucks hockey yeah he had a big satellite dish and let's not shame and my i know but that's bad like i bet on the hall of fame game that's not sad pre-season football Yeah, oh yeah.

1:39:28He would tell me all of these things that were going on with Pete. So we knew it was true. And I remember in 1986, we're at Shea Stadium. It's Mets-Astros, and I'm with Bob Costas. And Pete's there, and he walks up the steps, and he goes, who do you guys like today?

1:39:49PFT Commenter:Yeah. Now, if you're a gambler, there's certain codes, there's certain phrases. and I said to Bob, I go, and Bob's dad was a bookie. And I go, Pete's betting on this game today. Of course he is. Now granted, it was Mets-Astros. And then he came on my show years later and said, hey, I bet on the Reds to win every game. And all of a sudden, this blew up because nobody had ever, he never said it before. And everybody's like, yeah, you bet on yourself. I mean, that's the way, that's the American way. And I'm going, no, there were certain pitchers that he wouldn't bet on. When he bet, he bet on his team to win.

1:40:26But there were two pitchers I was told that he wouldn't bet on the Reds when they were pitching.

1:40:31PFT Commenter:Well, also it affects the way they use the bullpen, too. Right, you're betting on that. You're playing every game like it's Game 7 of the World Series. All of a sudden, John Franco's coming in his fifth consecutive game. Yeah, right. But I got caught up in it because I thought I knew sports. And now I have so many outlets to actually have information. Yeah. and i you know i can't go back just it's smart yeah but i love it and you should subscribe to your podcast yeah dan patrick takes a gamble pot it's fun and if you wanted it you know and why do we use degenerate gambler why why can't you just be a gambler it's a hobby around a lot yeah i mean we don't use it for anything else do we no like a did you know i think that's unfair to the gambling community i agree well i also think that uh like speaking for myself who has gambled for a very long time.

1:41:18What's the most you've lost?

1:41:20PFT Commenter:A lot. A lot, a lot. In like one game. Oh. 10? 50, 60. Those are game of the years, though. Those go bad. Well, all right, so I had a streak. Wait, wait. You look worried. Here's the thing. All right, Dan, you look worried. Let me explain. Is this where the tout says this is my game of the year? You probably missed this, but it did make waves. I started March 1st this year. I did not lose a game in March until March 10th. I went 16-0 straight. the bets started going up and up and up. So the 17th game was a lot. I was making like QB one money for a week and a half. It was insane. It was insane.

1:41:58PFT Commenter:They were talking about on the broadcast. They were saying like the 15th and 16 game, the broadcasters were like, and there's the over and big cat and all, and everyone who's riding with him must be happy 16 and up. Okay. So you made this money to get to 50 or 60. Yeah. Oh, so you didn't just plump. No, but yeah. Punk down 50 grand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Correct. I was up, and I kept on going, pushing it, pushing it, pushing it. What's the most you've lost? It was the Eagles in the Super Bowl a couple years ago against the Chiefs. I think that was, I want to say$8 ,500,$9 ,000. And I did that because, actually, fun story, Big Cat had a future ticket on the Eagles.

1:42:40Yeah, he was being a good friend. Yeah, Big Cat would have won, I think,$200 ,000. It was 20-1 on the Eagles from the start of the season. Yeah. And I did not want to root for the Eagles as a Commanders fan. It's against my DNA. But I'm not going to root against him winning$200 ,000. That's a house. So I was like, I'm going to feel this one way or another. But I'm hopefully not going back up to that.

1:43:04PFT Commenter:Why didn't you ask for biggest wins? Why do you got to do it the negative one? Because that's the way I deal. I want pain. We had Travis Hunter to win the Heisman this year. Yeah, but that wasn't crazy. 40 to 1 isn't crazy? Yeah, we got them early. 40 to 1, 5K to win$200 ,000. Oh, I wouldn't see that as a big deal. Judging me for my losses, that's not fair. Okay, I mean, most people will tell you when they win, I'm really curious about when you lose. Now, you know, Van Pelt started the bad beats, but I like to hear when somebody says, you know, this is what happened. The losses stick with you.

1:43:44PFT Commenter:But that's what makes the wins fun. And it's when you get hot. And like I said, it's a hobby for me. I am a lifelong loser. But the bet sizes go up. Yeah, right. You've had to shed that label. No, but in terms of gambling, I am. I also want to retract that. It was closer to$16 ,000 or$17 ,000. Because in that game, I also bet on no doinks. The ball doesn't hit the upright. It's like a lock. It never happens. People think, oh, I hear doink all the time. It was like minus 500. I bet a lot of money on that because I'm like, this is an investment. It's an investment strategy. And so it was that combined.

1:44:20That was a bad day for me.

1:44:22PFT Commenter:I also should say that the 17th bet was$65 ,000. I know that for a fact. So that was bad. But I was up. But do you run it by your wife? She's aware. Okay. Generally? I think the Travis Hunter one was I won that, and then she was like, what are we going to do with the money? And it was like two weeks after I'd won it, and I was like, the money? Week 12 and 13 didn't go so hot Who's the two-way guy at LSU Who's now with the Texans The defensive back Stingley? I don't think he plays two ways But I remember I told people to bet him I thought his next year He would have been the Heisman Trophy winner He would have gone both ways And I thought he was Travis Hunter Before Travis Hunter In my mind I mean that has nothing to do with me this story other than I'm trying to show you that I can kind of have a Travis Hunter moment who wasn't Travis Hunter and he didn't win the Heisman and he didn't play offensive but you know his name and we had to help you with his name exactly how do you pronounce the guy with the card and he played with the Angels Pujols yeah there you go if you want next year we can tell you who's going to win the Heisman Yeah, we're two for two in the last two years.

1:45:42Yeah, we like to delicately use some of the influence that we have. So when we decide who's going to win the Heisman, usually in mid-September, we will just strictly highlight that one player in college football and bring him up all the time.

1:45:56PFT Commenter:The Heisman is the dumbest trophy that we give out because it's 2 ,000 voters and 1 ,500 of them don't watch all the games or any of the games. Their voters are not aligned. Correct. And so we've realized how stupid it is that they don't have experts voting on this. They have people who are watching and, oh, what's the biggest game? Who plays for Notre Dame? Who plays for the – it's stupid. Are you saying that dead people vote for the Heisman? It might be. We got ballot fraud? They haven't voted. But, yeah, they still have a vote. Yeah. But we've got to find out who those people are, and then we can write in from their name.

1:46:33Yeah. Got it. I think it's so formulaic. you can't win it in September. We give out the September VP, like the September Heisman, and that person never wins because you have to have your marquee game. You have to have a nationally televised game, preferably playing in a big conference, and you play a skilled position.

1:46:54PFT Commenter:Yeah, and you've got to win like eight. That was our thing with Travis Hunter. We're like, if Colorado can win eight or nine games, he should win the Heisman. That's a big piece. Jaden Daniels was the same way. I think they were three losses. So they had to win nine games. But if you can get there. And so who's winning it this year? We'll tell you in September. Yeah. Does he play for LSU? He might actually. Nussmeyer might. There's a chance. That could be one. I also think Clemson's going to have a really good year. I do too. Yeah. I do too. So that's going to be. I think Arch Manning is too obvious.

1:47:26Yeah. I can't take that.

1:47:27PFT Commenter:That would be. I actually, I don't hate the Notre Dame running back love. Because that does. That's another one where it's narrative. If Notre Dame goes to the playoffs and he rips off a ton of yards, you know Heisman voters are going to run. It's hard to do the running back. I know, but Notre Dame, the Notre Dame part. Notre Dame and with a name like Love. Wake up the echoes, Dan. Yeah. Just think about that. This is all we're going to say. All fall on part of my take. Yeah, but Gentry rushes for 2 ,000 yards. Yeah. Granted, it's Boise. But still. Oh, he was phenomenal. Those were great. We had to say some bad things about him to help Travis.

1:48:04PFT Commenter:Oh, you did? Oh, yeah. I like the defenses he played against. It got ugly. It got ugly. I didn't even see Fruta Leloun. Yeah. You can keep those. Yeah, those are yours. That's part of a gift. 36-38. We're like Derek Jeter. We give those. This is your old girl. That's when I was 12. But you wore, you didn't wear briefs back then. I don't know. Yeah. No, boxers, regular boxers. Oh, you did? Yeah, yeah. The old school. Yeah. Those are big. No, that's not old school. Old school is tidy ones. Yeah, that is old school. that's yeah yeah yeah and that's gonna be walking around you know and you don't wear you don't wear you don't wear any underwear right now right yeah no i love that um just for this interview yeah yeah that's all right and just strategically where i'm seated yeah just i want to say max max texted me like 30 minutes ago saying hey pft your your shirt button is on and it was just a gaping hole for i think half the interview i was mesmerized by it Sorry about that.

1:49:04Every time you were speaking, it was like a mouth moving.

1:49:07PFT Commenter:This is the future of journalism. We're in good hands. All right, last question. This has been unbelievable. We always love having you on. You're going to chop this up, and it's going to be about seven minutes. No, no, no, no. You are one of our favorite guests. Just keep it for the archives so when I die, and then you bring it back. And you go, this never aired. Oh, there you go. Yeah, the never aired Dan Patrick interview. Like I could say something now. You'll never believe what he said. That it would be from the grave. Time capsule. You know what he said? We talk about that every now and then when we will be traveling.

1:49:42PFT Commenter:So like we'll tape the show on a Thursday and then we have to get on a plane. Like what if we just died? And then we release the last podcast. You should have kind of a say something at the end in case you die. Yeah. Posthumous. Yeah. I mean for your family. Okay. All right. So roll back question. Okay. Promo code TATE, 20 % off your first purchase, Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, Roback.com, promo code TATE. Give it to us. What? Give us the Dan Patrick has died. What does he want to live on forever? I don't know if we have enough time. I mean, it's emotional. This has got wrenching. All right, I'll go first.

1:50:16PFT Commenter:Okay. I'll go first. Nussmeyer to win the Heisman. So if you die before Heisman season, there's going to be voters that are like, Nussmeyer for Big Cat. We've got to do it. Boom. So you'll get three in a row. Yeah. It'll be worth it. They'll have to vote for you. You'll die. We'll lose you, but you'll win that bet. Okay. All right. PFT.

1:50:43I never found out if Joe Flacker was elite. And that tears me out. I'm in purgatory right now in the afterlife. Trying to claw my way back. Who was going to tell you he was elite? I just thought somebody would let me know.

1:50:54PFT Commenter:It was just going to click, yeah. Yeah. When you know, you know. Yeah. I think he was. I don't think he was. He won a Super Bowl. Nick Foles was an elite. This is the perfect conversation. That's the exact conversation anyone has ever had. But usually they say, so did Trent Dilfer. I didn't go there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Foles was unbelievable in his Super Bowl. He was elite. But you can look back on these quarterbacks. Look at a Bob Greasy Super Bowl. The numbers, Bart Starr. Or Joe Namath. Yeah. I mean, they're not great numbers, but we somehow think, boy, these guys had an unbath. You know, Brady's first Super Bowl.

1:51:40PFT Commenter:Yeah. They're not great numbers, but nobody ever lumps them in with some of these other guys we consider pedestrian. Right. Who have won Super Bowls. I just hope that you guys carry the torch of what? Entertainment, journalism, no, entertainment, entertainment, and, yeah. I mean, there's a great chance you outlive us. People know you live to be like 120 years old. If I get to Italy, then I'll keep you informed. Yeah, unless Rick Riley gets you. Will I make, okay, here's real quick before, oh, Rick Riley. Yeah, he sees you. Walking off the plane. Shelly Long. All right. Will I make In Memoriam at the Academy Awards?

1:52:23Oh, yes. Are you sure? I think Sandler will make sure that happens. That's 22 movies. If I'm lucky enough. Some films. Yes. If I'm lucky enough to outlive you, I will make it my mission that year to get you In Memoriam. You promise? Yeah. Better question.

1:52:39PFT Commenter:Will ESPN put it on the front page of ESPN.com? No, no, no. I'm going bottom line. Bottom line. I think you'll get bottom line. Oh, yes. Will you get front page of ESPN.com? Yes. I don't know. I think you will. I haven't gone there since I left. I know, but I... So I don't... Maybe they won't? You think you're going to be like... You went on SVP, right? Yeah. But I didn't go on the ESPN page. Got it. I'm going to go to the website. So you think that it's going to be like the sky beat the fever, and then the line below it's going to be Dan Patrick guys. No, no, it's Caitlin Clark and the fever beat the mystic.

1:53:15PFT Commenter:Yeah. Dan Patrick passes away. Yeah. So that might be what I'm going to leave you with. When I die, that I'm talking about when I die. And these are things that I'm asking you to help me with. We got you. Bottom line is fine. In memoriam, that'd be kind of nice. Can I tell you what would have guaranteed you to get into the memoriam page for the Oscars? If you had taken that fucking job prices. God damn it. $10 million a year. Yeah, but that's TV. No, no. This is in memoriam. No, they still would have done it. You would have more cameos. You would have been in more movies. No. Bob Barker. I know.

1:53:51Do you know Barker insisted on beating up Sandler in Happy Gilmore? I did not know that. He said that he would do the scene, but he says, I'm kicking your ass. Oh, I love it. And so Sandman's like, yes, that's great TV. That he wanted, that Bob said, you know, I want to win. That's so good. And Sandman said, sure, I don't care.

1:54:14PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right. Well, Dan. This is it. We've done it. This is the best. This is the final one. You're the best. No, you're coming back on it. This will play. Listen, when you do your. Two and a half years when I'm done. Yeah, when you do your real retirement tour, when we get to the last few months, you're going to, you know. And I'm there with Portnoy, feeding him pizza. Yep. My new job. You're going to be doing everything. Yeah. You're going to be doing quick picks. You're going to be doing it all. I'm going to do barstool. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to do it all. You would think I'd spend enough time on a barstool, far more than you guys have.

1:54:47Yes, that's right. I didn't want to talk about a barstool. Okay, that's it. We've done it. Thanks for joining us. Oh, okay. Thank you. Dan Patrick was brought to you by Truly Unruly, the high-alcoholic hard seltzer that drinks light before he's hard. Truly Unruly is a hard seltzer that breaks all the rules. It's 8 % ABV. It hits hard, but it tastes amazing. 8 % ABV is a game changer, and it's delicious in four fresh flavors. Got Tropical Twist, Berry Blast, Citrus Crush, Strawberry Smash, the truly hard seltzer taste that you love, the high-alcohol unruliness that you're looking for. It's the official hard seltzer.

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1:55:31PFT Commenter:Okay. Let's finish up with FAQs. Hank, you got them. Oh, I actually – can I do an FAQ myself? Please. Hey, guys. long time listener was wondering if you feel a little intimidated about the new guy being a complete heartthrob and girls on TikTok lusting for him no it's an awesome trend yeah it's called you're zacking for people who missed it Zach you got some admirers no there was a kind woman on the other night that gave me a shout out shout to her shout to her but the comments too were like Zach's got it. Those people are very kind. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. She completed the Zach challenge. Yeah. Just listen to Zach and love Zach.

1:56:19Yeah, loving Zach.

1:56:22PFT Commenter:Dude, this podcast. It would make me so happy if this podcast got you lit. Not much of an intercourse guy.

1:56:35I just. that's gonna make him watch you so much more zach you know that dude girls are gonna get so

1:56:43PFT Commenter:fucking horny for that like i don't even i don't even like it whatever intercourse guy i should have kept it to myself i'll say this though that's a challenge that's a challenge to the girl aws out there probably the first thing that your mom will appreciate you saying on the show like oh my sweet little boy not much of an intercourse guy

1:57:09what does that even mean we got so many faqs you know we got we should probably get on the next one we got so many all right yeah let's go to the next one this one's uh relatable i may miss it but how did zach come about being on the show i love the addition but i was wondering about the backstory

1:57:23PFT Commenter:yeah zach do you want to start you want me to tell a little bit too uh however you like sir okay all right well all right so tell the leading up to the gruden then i'll take it from the gruden so what were you doing before and and kind of you know what was your life like and and you know relationship with barstool oh so we're uh so i was uh i was running like a clip accounts on like tiktok and instagram and then uh selling cars as well and then they had uh they had a listing for uh like production assistants and help with uh junk room because you guys hired him or got got a green late last year and they're like hey we're in tampa we're gonna have some uh uh some interviews here's like a little bit interview process uh a couple different like a google doc situation some some emails and then i was i was uh uh fortunate enough to be invited out to the in-person interviews and i i didn't get the job yeah what was grun like in that interview uh he's an electric guy uh really uh uh really uh to the point uh pretty fun it was a little overwhelming because uh i'm a bucks fan growing up so you know he brought us to super bowl so i would there was a little bit of pressure there but and what was the what was you say the shining moment from that uh that maybe caught dave's eye uh i know he i know he did have a good uh all right i'll take it from here all right so they they had it in that's okay you're doing a great job they were trying to hire a gruden's assistant they brought a bunch of guys in Zach was Zach Which pops off the camera But then there was a moment where they did a task Where they're watching a game And then everyone on burner accounts And they said tweet like you're tweeting from John Gruden's account Tweet clips Throughout the game And we're going to judge those Zach tweeted zero clips in the first half And said that When asked about it You basically were like Well I kind of got nervous and then I fell behind the eight ball and it was a little self-miscommunication was the exact line.

1:59:31PFT Commenter:It was. Yeah. So you just sat there for an entire half of football just kind of frozen. Trying to get it back together. There was some frozen moments for sure. Yeah, it was you at the costume store. Yeah, no, no, we were moving worse. It was worse because for an entire half of football, I didn't finish the assignment. You didn't do anything. I did. I was trying to get there and like, I just, it got mixed up and you're right. It was a miscommunication. Well, I know I'm right because you said that, which is a great term. I don't know how to break it. So, so flash forward. So he, he was electric.

2:00:04PFT Commenter:He didn't get the job. March Madness comes around first weekend. Dave was like, Hey, I brought that Zach kid. I want to see if you like them and you can have them in Chicago. And our first conversation went exactly like a lot of these conversations go where I was like, we just started talking, and you had flown in on Thursday morning, and I said, yeah, I want you to. I was like, when do you fly back? You said Monday morning. I said, change that to night. And you said, oh, so I have to leave tonight. Should I go right to the airport? This is Thursday. I said, no, no, no, change it to Monday night uh because i want you to come on the yak and just be in the office and then i love i loved you from right away and i told dave let's do it let's get him hired and uh cream team a couple appearances on the yak and i was like you'd be perfect in pmt and now here you are i'm very grateful for the opportunity uh i look forward to uh helping team to the best of my ability as much as i can yeah very much so and that it was hard when i when i thought i heard you go no change it to tonight the flight it my heart sunk a little bit i was like oh there's no way i messed it up this bad yeah it was yeah it was a simple conversation we were having i just said i said when are you going home he said monday morning i said change it to the night it sounds like tonight yeah that does i i could see how that is cell phone but it also was at like 7 p.m that thursday night and he thought i was literally telling him to get out of here and go to the airport just like pretty much go yeah like you suck go and you're like and you just said so should i go to the airport right now he said no no monday night and then the rest is history did you ever want to move to chicago uh chicago is definitely far from where i was currently living at the time uh definitely a bit of an adjustment period uh but i but i enjoy i've enjoyed the the city of chicago for sure when was there a moment where you're like you know during that weekend that you're up here that you're like i think i'm doing it good i think i think they like me no i didn't think i was i was i was uh initially i came up here thinking or just like at some points where i was here here the first time i felt like i wasn't uh helping enough and i was like i'm just there needs to be something this guy i'm messing something up i don't know i was in my head a little bit i think dave was also judging you a lot based on if you were if he was winning bets by you being that was the florida bet was big the first one the second one went bad yeah went couldn't have gone worse yeah but i mean here you are i appreciate you guys having me yeah we're here west coast we're so far west right now look at you now we're so far west yeah do you ever when do you think you'll feel comfortable being like oh i'm i'm good i'm here i i think i'm i think i'm getting um i'm much more comfortable around you guys for sure like i feel like we're we're like uh i won't call it bonding a little bit oh definitely i feel bonded a little bit too we're gonna go eat ice cream later i'd like i'd like you to to stand up for yourself a little bit more okay that's okay i got stepped on zach's foot earlier and he said sorry about that yeah i said i just stepped on your foot it's a tight kitchen big feet i didn't want to listen if hank steps on your foot you have permission to be like hank what the fuck but i'm sorry i wouldn't hate it if you slapped him like just if he gets out of line just crack him one chill week dude i'm not into physical violence too much hank you're good yeah all right throw I'm in a lake.

2:03:26How did the lottery ball machine start? I went underway on a submarine for a couple months a few years ago and was confused when I came back to listen to the show.

2:03:34PFT Commenter:Okay. Good question. It was COVID, right? And, oh, it was the NHL lottery, whatever year that was, everyone was saying it was rigged, right? Remember that year? Blackhawks won. Was it? No, I don't know. It was the year before. It was NBA because I don't think NHL always does. No, I think it was after the NBA lottery. show the lottery ball nb nhl does i thought it was after nba i think it was like three or four whatever it was it was during covid it was one of the leagues did their lottery ball people thought it was rigged i was like you know what i need i need a lottery ball machine i bought it it was like two grand from china that was the original one and then we just were like well there's so many things we can do like guess the numbers and that's pretty much all we've done with it except we did the blake of the year that one year and that was really bad we also did one on macrodosing where you just pull up a number and then you race to be the first guy to say a jersey number that that was from that dude.

2:04:30That's good. It's a good game. But I do love the lottery ball machine.

2:04:32PFT Commenter:It's just another form of gambling, I guess. Memes, what? This is a 2020 lottery. 2020 NHL lottery, right? Yeah, they're saying the lottery balls were weighed. Yeah, yeah, during COVID. So, yeah, because they showed it on screen. Memes, you love the lottery ball machine, right? No. We were watching a game show last night at Margaritaville, and there was just a ping pong ball show and I was just disturbed by it because three wasn't coming up. It's great because this was Hank's burden for the longest time. And I think that what we'll have to do, so this is lottery ball machine number two. I think the day that Memes gets it, we have to buy another lottery ball machine and start all over again.

2:05:12PFT Commenter:Don't you guys agree? He's never going to get it. He isn't going to get it, but we should buy another one. Sure. Why? No, I'll buy it. I don't care. But that's the whole fun of it Is one person's just not gonna get it for the longest time And it's gonna kill them and eat them Can we get a giant one? Yeah I wanted a really giant A big ass one? Yeah we can get a big one Fuck yeah I want like chutes and ladders and shit I'm just rooting for memes to beat Hank And that day isn't It's pretty close The way that was phrased though is confusing You want him to have a longer streak of not getting it than Hank Correct To beat him in being bad Yes yes No, it's a long time.

2:05:53PFT Commenter:It's a year, but three episodes per week. So less than a year in podcast. Not getting a lottery ball for a year is very... That makes sense. What's the number you're away from him? I think it's like 370. It's like a year. 370 days? Yeah. Okay, got it. Wow. I don't know how many podcast days that is, though. I don't think that matters, though. It wasn't podcast. It's guess days. We haven't even done 500. We're just... I think next week's our 500th episode. Yeah. Do you miss being able to go to live sporting events you can't go to anymore? No NFL games except Monday nights has to be tough. Yeah, it's a small sacrifice, but there are some times, like when I found out that the Commanders were playing the Dolphins in Madrid, I thought that would be a sick-ass game to go to.

2:06:40Yeah. Go over to Spain. But, no, honestly, getting to watch games on your couch is way better than being at the games usually anyways.

2:06:46PFT Commenter:Yeah, I actually don't. i don't have that feeling during nfl sundays because i want to watch all the games i have that feeling like if there's other games going on and it's like oh i want to go to the blackhawks game or like but i can't because there's other games going on it's like you know we got to watch this so it's more that yeah like random weeknights where it's like we have something going on i can't go to this game yeah i i think going to like a couple nfl games a year would be a lot of fun and if we can do it on a Monday night, we sometimes try to make that happen. But yeah, overall, like sitting on your couch at home with your own snacks and your own food and not having to drive and park and then leave and drive and park, it's the best.

2:07:29PFT Commenter:The one thing that would hurt me if I couldn't go to baseball games. Baseball games are the best in the summer. I've been to like 13 Cubs games. So that I'll just keep doing. And that's kind of our offseason anyway. Yeah. Yeah. All right, last one. Two weeks ago, you talked about balls in or out for years. the argument at blue collar jobs has been over or through underwear thoughts seems as an age always picks the through wait through i'm confused with that question we talk about balls going over under the underwear or no over through over through so what's the question do you go balls over or through over yeah i feel like it's kind of the same question i like i like to keep the balls separate the balls usually stay indoors i think i go everything so you so you would go balls through the underwear but over the pants no i'm saying i i try to keep the balls indoors he keeps them under like like just just the dick comes out oh yeah yeah is that crazy i like to go everything over and flop my balls onto my underwear.

2:08:36PFT Commenter:You flop them all? Yeah, I flop them onto my underwear. So that way the front of your pants is always covered in ball sweat? Well, I mean, my balls aren't that sweaty. They're not big enough to be sweaty. So, no, I guess. I keep the balls indoors. General rule. This is also one of those questions that I just can never... I have to go do it to tell you what my answer is. You know what I mean? You don't even think about it. It's such a... It just happens. Don't you guys agree? Yeah. I just couldn't I'm running a simulation I'm running a thousand simulations I'll go check right now 95 % of the time I think the balls Don't go over the top Or through the front The balls stay where they are And then everything else We need to fill a bus Or the Phillies just lost On a walk-off Inside the park home run Oh my god A three-run walk-off Inside the park home run Is that why Joel Embiid Just tweeted Oh my god, no way Maybe I don't know It's like So fucking bad That's really bad Walk-off inside the park home run Is awesome Was that in Philly?

2:09:35Embiid just tweeted, OMG, no F way. Yeah, he's watching the game. Wait, it sounds like he's rooting against the Phillies. I would have the exact same reaction. That's true.

2:09:47PFT Commenter:Okay, weird revelation. I'm kind of like half in, half out. Did you go over top? I'm holding my balls in my dick. Okay. Does that make sense? So you just hold, you support everything. I support everything. But like my hand is kind of almost in my half of my hand is kind of in the underwear, but it's also kind of. Yeah. You know what? I think it really matters about the pants. True. The waistband. Really good point. Yeah. Because all elastics are not built the same. Yeah. Because jeans, I'll unzip and just go through that. Yeah. Through the zipper. Yeah. And he's kind of sweatpants, elastic. I'll go over.

2:10:24PFT Commenter:Yeah. Okay. High level talk. Yeah. Basically the same conversation. All right. Good show, boys. Good show. Chowik, let's kick it back to ourselves in studio for memes to get the lottery ball. Okay, we're back in studio for the numbers. Three. And Chowik will continue. I'm going to go 100. I'll go 21. I'll go 77. I was literally pointing at Shane. I was like, say 21 before. I was going to say before meme says it. Well, now you have to play offense. No, it's playing offense.

2:11:07Six. Fourteen. One. Ninety-nine. Puck. Eighty-five.

2:11:14PFT Commenter:Gates. What was yours, Memes? Seventy-seven. Really, all we care about is...

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