Doug Pederson In Studio, Week 5 Picks And Preview, Playoff Baseball, Big Cat Won The 50/50 And An All Time Fyre Fest

11:45Doug Pederson:Jackson, dude, you're not a rookie quarterback. Got it. Find it. No, I don't have anything. Oh, shit. You aren't a dart historian? Historian? I was just trying to think of art. Yeah. Listen, I've been up for 19 hours right now.

12:01PFT Commenter:That's a full Glennie Ball day. Yeah. In the AFC, though, you have the Raiders, the Tennessee Titans, the Texans maybe, the Browns, the Bengals, the Jets, the Dolphins. It does feel like the AFC has more bad teams. They do.

12:17Doug Pederson:They do. We're still early. But I do think that the Niners and the Rams right now are good teams. Even though the Niners don't have anybody, they're still somehow good. Yeah, yeah. The defense was, I mean, they made some huge plays. Yeah, yeah.

12:33PFT Commenter:The defense is, yeah, they'll figure it out.

12:35Doug Pederson:Yeah.

12:36PFT Commenter:Okay, should we talk baseball? Yeah, 50-50. Well, we got to talk about all the series first. But that chronological. Yeah, I know. We're going backwards. we're going to start at the most recent one. Oh, got it. Cam Schlittler, unbelievable performance in Yankee Stadium tonight. Earned his pinstripes. Oh, yeah. Would you say so?

12:57Doug Pederson:Definitely. It was crazy. It was all time. Massachusetts' kid, too, makes it that much worse. That's the thing. He's from, what, Walpole? Walpole.

13:04PFT Commenter:What did he have? 12 strikeouts?

13:06Doug Pederson:12 strikeouts. No walks. Innings, no walks. I think it was like a stat. He didn't have batters with two balls in them.

13:13PFT Commenter:Wait, every batter had two balls in them.

13:16Doug Pederson:with John Clark playing? Because of balls and strikes.

13:18PFT Commenter:Oh, okay. Okay.

13:20Doug Pederson:Yeah, so he's from Walpole. His dad was the chief of police from Needham. So, like, can he go home? He said his whole family converted to Yankees fans, which is even crazier. That's insane. Also, Ben Rice, who's on my Dinger's only team, from class to the town next to me, saying he grew up a Yankees fan is, like, preposterous.

13:40PFT Commenter:He hit a home run yesterday. Yesterday. Preposterous. So, how do you say it? Schlitler. Schlittler. Schlittler. So the Yankees, so Schlittler has, and he's a rookie. Yeah. Eight innings, 12 Ks, zero walks. It was a good series, like high-level playoff baseball. Although it felt like the Red Sox made a lot of errors.

14:02Doug Pederson:Yeah, no, the Red Sox, the Yankees were trying to give us the game, game two. Red Sox, bases loaded, pop-up bunt, couldn't get a runner home. Bad base running errors, bad fielding errors tonight. Like the Connelly early, another rookie, I think it was the first time he pitched on the road. Like he pitched in Sacramento and wherever the Devil Rays play. So it was like his first real major league start on the road. It was in the playoffs. He pitched really well. He was just there. The Yankees hit a pop fly, should have been caught. And then they were just hitting like dinky singles through the infield plus errors.

14:38Doug Pederson:So the Red Sox, the Red Sox lost that series. He didn't win it. How about Ryan McMahon? Man, great catch.

14:43PFT Commenter:Unbelievable catch. Better sportsmanship.

14:46Doug Pederson:No, I disagree. I think the catch was better than the catch. Oh, I think the sportsmanship was better than the catch. I think the sportsmanship was outstanding.

14:54PFT Commenter:It used to be that if you went into the opposing team's dugout, they wouldn't even try to help you.

14:58Doug Pederson:The catch was a once-in-a-lifetime. Are you saying that's once-in-a-lifetime sportsmanship? It might be, given the stakes. So if anybody in an opposing team's dugout ever tries to help a guy falling in, again then that's not once in a lifetime

15:12PFT Commenter:yeah we are having the debate that our darling Jake had he said incredible catch even better sports not better sports sorry I would say it was probably a better catch also Billy was at the game yeah that was in a in a like Wall Street guys vest he looked good he looked very good but yeah so wait overall Red Sox lost a series Yankees did not win it but great of the season oh Red Sox lost, Yankees didn't win it. Yeah. So the Yankees shouldn't even go play the Blue Jays.

15:42Doug Pederson:No, they're going to get smoked. Okay.

15:44PFT Commenter:Really? Yeah.

15:45Doug Pederson:Because the vibes seem pretty high in New York right now. They got lucky. They got away with one. I mean, obviously, when you win a playoff series, the vibes are going to be high. Yeah. Then you realize, yeah, I guess, I don't know. Are you just being a hater now? Yeah, that's okay. Fucking Adolph. Fucking hate. Adolph Schlitler.

16:02PFT Commenter:Be a hater. Did Aaron judge earn his pinstripes? No. Yeah, I don't think he, did he get it, like, any big moments? He didn't tonight.

16:12Doug Pederson:Aaron Judge has to win a win. He had a, he hit one. Yeah, so Aaron Judge will not, he will not ever be a true Yankee. He reached on an error. It was honestly similar to A-Rod. It was like A-Rod when he slapped the ball out of Bronson Royal's hand and then got to second and was like holding his arms up. Aaron Judge like flew out to left field. Duran dropped it. He got to second base. It was like celebrating like it was, you know. Disgusting. He had a double.

16:36PFT Commenter:He did, he was two for four. on Wednesday and Tuesday. So that's not bad. But yeah, you need... Schlitler has more pinstripes.

16:45Doug Pederson:Yes. If you do this in your Yankee debut, I would say pinstripes. But for Aaron Judge, a guy that's won every award, that's had an outstanding career, but no world... He has to win a World Series or else not a true Yankee. Probably not even... I'll take him out of the Hall of Fame.

17:00PFT Commenter:Yeah.

17:00Doug Pederson:I won't vote for him.

17:01PFT Commenter:Okay. Other series we can talk about. Do we think the Guardians losing to the Tigers, did the tigers just erase that entire 15 and a half game comeback yes i unfortunately think yes

17:13Doug Pederson:yeah they they don't give a fuck anymore the tigers ended up exactly where they expected to end up

17:18PFT Commenter:which is in the ds and the guardians are not it's incredible incredible september guardians fans will have maybe some fond memories when they look back and be like that was an awesome run and what a comeback but when you lose then to the tigers in three games that's brutal

17:36Doug Pederson:That's the downside to playing the team that you just caught. It's like you didn't really catch them yet. Yeah, you caught them to then get the right to lose to them at home. You kept them alive to allow them to embarrass you, yes. Yeah, they came back. But the Guardians got chased a lotter, who's going to be a force in center field for him. So I might be all in on the Guardians next year. Okay. You're going to get your guard up? I think so. Okay. You know where we went to school? Where? James Madison.

18:01PFT Commenter:Oh, there you go. Jamie. Nice. and then also the Dodgers just dominated. That was... I feel like the Reds actually had a couple chances in that. Max, you were locked in. Bases loaded, no outs. They had chances and they just didn't... They'd base loaded no outs twice. Yeah, we had it on Tuesday night when we were watching.

18:19Doug Pederson:Yeah, well, that was another time. The Reds are a joke.

18:22PFT Commenter:So now, how are you feeling about the Dodgers?

18:24Doug Pederson:The Dodgers are insane.

18:27PFT Commenter:They're not fair.

18:29Doug Pederson:I don't know. Their bullpen stinks. Their bullpen stinks. That's the only thing that you can hang your hat on. But then they got Sasaki going like 101 in the ninth inning now. So it's like. You know what they don't got, Max? They don't have Red October. The bank. That's what I'm saying. The bank. SEC environment, Max. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. What was that, Memes? Nothing. I'm a noob. What does one-on-one mean? 101. Oh.

18:56PFT Commenter:101 miles an hour.

18:57Doug Pederson:I was like, isn't every appearance one-on-one?

19:01PFT Commenter:Hank, have you ever driven in a car? Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever gone 101 miles an hour? It's pretty fast.

19:08Doug Pederson:Yeah.

19:09PFT Commenter:Wow. Okay. Just hit a man's play. That's really fast.

19:11Doug Pederson:Now that I can picture that, that's insanely fast. Also, I talked to Ben McDonald today, the announcer. Yeah. He did confirm that the radar guns are juiced now. Oh, of course. Yeah. So when you see 104 miles per hour, it's not like they're throwing that much. They are throwing harder than people used to throw, but it's not like every pitcher is pitching 100 if you had the same standard where the ball is judged right out of your hand a lot of the guys from the 90s 2000s and the teens they're also like neck and neck with some of the guys yeah they also round up they do and they round up now too yeah big thing so yeah the guns are juiced uh how is this sold out scrimmage uh rocked yeah also did you guys see each row playing

19:52PFT Commenter:in right that was all that also bears that he just loves bay i love how much he loves baseball He just wants to keep playing.

19:59Doug Pederson:I think the vibes are all-time high for the Mariners right now. Yeah, that's a big time. They have not believed this much in the team in a very long time. Yeah.

20:08PFT Commenter:And then the Cubs beat the Padres, I'll say, on a very controversial – well, I mean, we won 3-1, but – yeah, we won 3-1, but a very controversial ball. Don't apologize for winning. No, I'm not. I'm just saying it was controversial. I mean, it was a ball. It was a ball. The ball was a ball. I went to all three games. It was awesome. The bats actually finally woke up in game three. PCA came up big. Michael Bush is a stud. Kyle Tucker maybe found something. He probably doesn't have a ton of power with his injury, but he can still hit. He's still like a professional hitter. But, yeah, the ball was a ball.

20:49PFT Commenter:You don't know. They probably would have taken Keller out. Craig Council would have taken Keller out if that walk had happened. but people will argue that it was going to be bases loaded with no outs. But yeah, I'm not going to apologize.

21:03Doug Pederson:I got a question for you about counsel. Yeah. So you guys went out there, got counsel. Yeah. Paid him a lot of money. Paid him a lot of money as a manager. Yeah. Made a big time manager move, which you don't really see that much. Do you think he was playing rope-a-dope this season?

21:17PFT Commenter:What do you mean?

21:18Doug Pederson:Because he seemed to be very efficient and knowledgeable and decisive when it came to the bullpen.

21:24PFT Commenter:Yeah.

21:25Doug Pederson:Well. Do you think that during the regular season he understands it's a long year? He doesn't have to always make these micromanaging decisions that might be slightly better in the moment?

21:37PFT Commenter:Well, he's had to tinker with it. We've added arms. We've had guys get injured. So there's been a lot of tinkering. You could make the argument in Game 2 he should not have let Shota pitch to Manny Machado. So that was a mistake. But I would say in his defense, you can't win. Last I checked, you can't win a baseball game by scoring zero runs. Yeah. So it really didn't matter. Either way, it was so electric. Wrigley was awesome. Game one and three were electric. Game two was very difficult because it couldn't get a hit. But it was so much fun.

22:11Doug Pederson:Game two was the most noteworthy game of all three.

22:13PFT Commenter:Yeah, we'll get to it in a sec. The memes is going to kill me if I talk about it. We've got to talk about it. But the memes is going to kill me. He's going to kill me. He's got a fucking gun. Do you have the taser on you still, Max? Or memes? Or Zach?

22:25Doug Pederson:It's hundreds of thousands that want to hear about it versus one guy. He's got the taser. I honestly think it's good that we're recording this late. Enough time has passed. I think he feels better about it now than he felt this morning. Memes, you can't censor Big Cat. I'm not censoring. All right, last thing with the Cubs. That was the most evil-sounding thing ever. I'm not censoring. He has a taser.

22:47PFT Commenter:Dan, he does have a taser. he has orders if I say the magic word to Taze you and the magic word is Zach Taze memes don't do it there okay Dansby Swanson is so good his defense was incredible him Nico Michael Bush that reach he made on the like just big time moments every guy coming up and you know Palencia pitching well again Tyone doing the best you could ask for with like a limited the Cubs rotation is in not a great spot so we're just trying to piece things together yeah because kate horton's out obviously you know if you go all the way back justin steel has been out for the majority like 99 of the year you're just trying to piece it together i'm excited to play the brewers we beat the brewers 7-6 in the season series this year so we played them well and anything can

23:36Doug Pederson:happen october i have a take about the cubs games yeah i think in the playoffs whenever possible the Cubs should play afternoon games. Yes. And the Phillies should play night games.

23:47PFT Commenter:Yes. The 4 o 'clock so it was 2 o 'clock, 2 o 'clock, 4 o 'clock. 2 o 'clock's awesome.

23:54Doug Pederson:I don't know. Are you asking me why? Yeah. Because Wrigley Field looks awesome especially like in the twilight.

24:00PFT Commenter:The sunset night going like the end of the game being at night. I love the 4 o 'clock. Do you disagree?

24:05Doug Pederson:Because that stadium is perfect for twilight. No I agree. I just was wondering if there was a specific group. You're a producer, right? The Golden Hour. Yeah. It's nice. And then Philly, the SEC environment like Death Valley, it works at the bank.

24:18PFT Commenter:Yeah. Fun fact, that was actually the third. Do we count the wild card as winning a series? Okay. Yeah. Now. Not before when it was one game. That was the third time in Cubs history that they closed out a series at Wrigley. That's crazy. Yeah. I've been to all three. So it's all happened recently too. 2015 Cardinals, 2016 Dodgers, and then today. It's awesome. It was an awesome time. Great night. I was – playoff baseball is just the most – like I was scared the whole time. Even after Michael Bush hit the home run, I was like three runs feels – three runs does feel massive compared to two runs, but – You were very close to bases loaded.

25:01PFT Commenter:Oh, I was shitting myself. The minute that he gave up the lead off home run, I was just like this, we're fucked. because then you're back to two and it's like one guy on and you're screwed. And even the final pitch was like a sinker that if he hits just a little bit different, it could have been gone and we could just be sitting here having a totally different cover.

25:20Doug Pederson:Cubs also almost had back-to-back jacks again. Yeah. It was pretty close. My favorite picture that came out of today was after the game. Did you see the picture of Tom Ricketts?

25:29PFT Commenter:Yeah.

25:30Doug Pederson:Pouring beer on Eddie Vedder? Yeah. Can you pull that up? Eddie Vedder was... I think John Greenberg tweeted it out. Eddie Vedder was... Also, there's a couple bad sports sounds for actors. More bad sports sounds. Who? Cusack.

25:43PFT Commenter:Oh, well, Cusack we knew about forever. Have you not heard White Sox Dave?

25:46Doug Pederson:Jimmy Fallon was at the... Well, no, but I thought Cusack was a White Sox guy.

25:50PFT Commenter:Well, he does both. He's been in both.

25:52Doug Pederson:That's why White Sox Dave hates him.

25:53PFT Commenter:Yes. Yeah, yeah. He swings both ways. If you've heard... If you just ask about Cusack, remember the famous face-to-face? Yeah. All-time video.

26:01Doug Pederson:White Sox Dave stood on business. We're going to have to bleep out one of these White Sox Dave's. We've said his name way too many times. And then Jimmy Fallon at the Yankees game cheering for the Yankees. Yeah. And then Rob Lowe. Yeah. Rob Lowe, the Reds guy. But, yeah, look at this picture of Tom Ricketts, like, calmly, very serious look on his face. Come here, young man. I'm having fun now. Yeah. I'm pouring beer on you, Eddie Vedder.

26:24PFT Commenter:Eddie Vedder was at every game. He was, I think, so drunk game one that he had an English accent when he did the seventh inning stretch. And he's just the best. Yeah. Good man. All right. Yeah. So on Tuesday, Wednesday, I finally did it. Memes, are you okay?

26:43Doug Pederson:I'm fine. Talk about whatever you're talking about.

26:47PFT Commenter:I've completed a lifelong goal. I hit the 50-50 raffle at the Cubs game. I'm still kind of in shock. This is for people who have been listening, following for a very long time, 12 years that I've been, about 12, 13 years I've been doing the 50-50 raffles like on camera. It's crazy. I won it. I finally won it. I won it at a playoff game at Wrigley. 108 ,000 was the pot, so I won 54. All right, emergency press conference. Cubs lose. That sucked. Mason Miller is incredible. Couldn't get a hit.

27:25PFT Commenter:See that number right there? See that number right there? See that number right there? Does that look familiar?

27:38PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah, that's that number. I fucking won it. I did it. For all the haters and losers out there who said I'd never win it, I fucking did it. I never gave up. Yeah, I might be even lifetime after winning 50 grand here on the 50-50, but that doesn't matter. I did it. They said I couldn't do it, and I did it. When it happened, I was just looking at the tickets over and over, and then looking at the screen, and just being like, how did this happen?

28:04Doug Pederson:What was your strategy? Did you go up to the different ticket ladies several times so you get it in like the second inning?

28:10PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah. I have a whole method. So there's an early bird special where if you buy$200 worth, you get 4 ,000 tickets. I would do that. I hit that right when I walk in. Then I hit my booth that I hit every single time. Actually, the woman, I have to find her. She was sick today. Renee, who sold me the winning ticket. She was like, hey, are you Big Cat? And I was like, yeah. And she's like, oh, I love your videos. My kids always ask when you're going to sell Big Cat a ticket. and I was like well today might be the day turns out it was her it was the day I again I'm still in shock it was so much fun I never thought I would actually do it and then when I did it I could not believe it and I appreciate everyone like I feel like there was a lot of people who were rooting for me for a very long time so it was very cool to see everyone be like this is a storyline that we never thought would actually happen happen yeah how many numbers

29:00Doug Pederson:are there in each 50-50 raffle I have no idea Yeah. But all you have to do is pick. Yeah. Oh, you mean like the actual ticket? Yeah. How many numbers are there?

29:11PFT Commenter:I got a winning ticket right here. I'm going to send it in.

29:14Doug Pederson:Oh, wait. So you haven't claimed it yet.

29:16PFT Commenter:No, I emailed them. You email them, and then they send you like a docusign. So I have that. 2-0-3-4-4-4-0-7-0-0-1. So what's that? 10 numbers? 11 numbers? I don't know why I did it that way.

29:28Doug Pederson:So you have to pick 11 numbers. Three. One through 10. And you have to pick all 11 correct. Yes. But all you have to do is just pick the right number. Yeah.

29:40PFT Commenter:And you did it. I did it. For 13 years, I was just buying losing tickets. And then on Wednesday, I was like, you know what? I'm going to buy the winning ticket. And then I did. Yeah. You picked the right number. And I did. And I appreciate everyone who's reached out. It was very cool. I'm going to keep going. I also would like to say, and we'll put the link to this in the episode bio. Maybe memes might not do that for me. I am going to donate all the money and then some. So weirdly, it's maybe called serendipity. I was already planning on doing something. There's a great group called the Lost Boys.

30:17PFT Commenter:Levante, who's an awesome dude, came into the office last week. So they do a youth sports league to help kids in like vulnerable situations, maybe not great neighborhoods. So they have a great baseball league. Then they have like a mentor program after that. So it's like youth baseball from four to 10, then a mentor program from 11 to 17. Awesome, awesome stuff. He has like 250 kids in his group. They've been doing it for 19 years. I actually ended up, I read a Chicago Sun-Times article like maybe three weeks ago, four weeks ago, saying they were out of money. And it's this really great program.

30:59PFT Commenter:And so I had Levante come in, talk to him at length. We're going to try to do some stuff with him at Barstool where we maybe host the kids for a day, all that stuff. So not just donating and saying, hey, go have fun. We're just trying to actually help out the community. So I'm donating all the money and then more. I wrote Levante a check for$75 ,000, which will hopefully get them back on their feet. And I'm just doing it. The 50-50 is the love of the game. It's the love of the game. It was never about the money. It was always about the love of the game.

31:29Doug Pederson:I think that's a great cause. Shout out Levante. It sounds like they run a great organization. If you win it again, are you going to keep it? No, I'm going to donate it again. I'm doing it for the love of the game.

31:39PFT Commenter:It's the most ethical win you can have.

31:41Doug Pederson:You're Robin Hood.

31:42PFT Commenter:Yeah. So it's$150 ,000. because it's 100 % going to charity. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. 150 raffles. Yeah. But yeah, so it's called The Lost Boys with a Z. We'll put the link. They have a GoFundMe. You don't have to donate. It would be awesome if you do donate. We're going to do more stuff with them. We're going to maybe do a raffle to try to raise some money for them. But people were saying, what are you going to do with the money? What are you going to do with the money? All the money and then more because I think they tax me. Yeah, they do. Yeah, so they're going to tax me. They're going to tax me good.

32:14Doug Pederson:Because I think they have, at least the brewers do, They have like a tax office in the stadium. So you go to collect and they're like, okay, go see the tax guy down.

32:21PFT Commenter:Yeah. But please do support Lost Boys. And like I said, it's not just giving money to give money and be like, look at that. We're also going to be doing stuff with them and hopefully helping them maybe coach some baseball. Max, you want to coach some baseball? Do you have any? That's great.

32:37Doug Pederson:Do you have a message for the haters that say that you couldn't do it?

32:40PFT Commenter:Yeah, they could suck my dick from the back and then go kill themselves. That's nice. I don't know who would be in this room.

32:48Doug Pederson:I always knew you could do it. Thank you, PFT. The only way you ever lose is if you stop playing. Yeah. I never questioned you on whether or not you would ever get it. Or if you've ever gotten it.

33:01PFT Commenter:Hank, you said literal chills, I think. I said goosebumps. Yeah, you didn't think the day was going to come.

33:06Doug Pederson:No, it wasn't that. It's just like when you see it's a curse being broken. It's something that you've watched for a long time that you just never thought was going to happen. Not that you didn't want it to happen. It's like, this is crazy. I felt, you know, I've known you for a long time, and you've never come close. And it was like, wow. It was a monumental. It was weird how monumental it felt. I know. It was a shift in the world.

33:35PFT Commenter:I know. I went to sleep with a smile on my face because I was just seeing everyone tweet about it and being like, how the fuck did this happen? I can't believe this happened. I knew you.

33:43Doug Pederson:You tweeted like emergency press conference was a selfie video. And I was like, no, I couldn't. I couldn't even watch the video. There's no way. You know what I also didn't see? And this was this is really nice of the Internet, because anytime something good happens, you typically get someone that's like, actually, here's why it's not that good. I didn't see anybody being like, did you really get that number or did somebody else get the number and give it to you? True. It was like, big cat. You got the number. Great job.

34:08PFT Commenter:Yeah, it was. It was very cool. I really appreciate the fans, AWLs, the stoolies. It was definitely one of the, like, it sounds sappy because it's literally just basically me saying I can't stop gambling on this thing, the 50-50 raffle.

34:26Doug Pederson:The one who loves you is the 50-50 raffle.

34:28PFT Commenter:Oh, all right. So I have a story about that. But I can't. I just love gambling and I love the 50-50 raffle. but the amount of people who were happy for me like had i had more texts than when my kids were born it was crazy and i think i might have said in a moment that i probably regret to my wife later that night that i was like i got nothing left to live for and she was like you have three kids and i was like good point but in that moment i was like i've accomplished everything listen yeah i

34:57Doug Pederson:mean the kids are they're awesome everybody can have kids not everyone can win the 50 50 raffle

35:03PFT Commenter:I think it goes, so it's my daughter, my second child, her birth, one, winning the 50-50 raffle, two.

35:13Doug Pederson:Yep.

35:14PFT Commenter:My firstborn, my son, three, and then my youngest, my other son, four.

35:21Doug Pederson:What about Cubs winning the World Series?

35:24PFT Commenter:That's up there, but I'm just talking about my personal life. Yeah, your accomplishments. My personal life. How much better? accomplishments and then if I win it again I think it will slot in firmly at three still ahead of

35:36Doug Pederson:myself the second one might be better though have you thought about that if I went back today I would have been the greatest thing ever if that would have gone above my daughter if you win again this postseason then at that point it's like I'm a god yeah yeah I'm gonna try I'm never gonna give up I'm gonna keep going do you have an estimate of how much money you've spent in the past don't do that okay okay well I think people want to know the answer should I not ask that no no you can ask that? We gotta have hard conversations on this show. No, no, they do want to know. I talked about this before, but I was like, okay, we don't have to do it.

36:05Doug Pederson:I'd like to have the hard conversation. I started to think about it and then I was like, I don't want to know. It's bad.

36:11PFT Commenter:The answer to PFT is I am 100 % without a doubt still very much in the red on the 50-50 raffle after winning$54 ,000. Yeah. I'd started doing a little bit of the quick math. I've had season tickets to the Cubs for 11 years now uh back in the day i was going to like 60 games a year and i was probably only spending like 50 to 100 dollars then but i've since upped my game the last couple of years and i'm usually in the 600 to a thousand dollar range of game and i went to 20 25 games this year yeah so it's yeah i wasn't asking that and then that's not even counting every other sporting event that i've attended like the time when i went to the toledo match and game against bowling green and i had 12 % of the entire 50-50 pot and did not even come close.

36:57Doug Pederson:Yeah, I wasn't asking to belittle the accomplishment because I actually think that makes the accomplishment even better. Oh, yeah, it's got a storyline. The fact that you had to grind.

37:07PFT Commenter:The funniest one was someone sent me the, there was a day in 2015 when the Cubs played in the afternoon and the Blackhawks had a playoff game at night and I got the same 50-50 vendor. like he sold the vendor sold it to me at wrigley and then he sold it to me at the united center i was like oh shit he's like yeah it's me again most people would have quit then i didn't i kept on going i kept on going yes hank though but the uh the lady today told me that uh she had an insane amount of people buying 50 50 today because of my video because now people realize they can actually win you know i literally was like the it was a story like no this guy has never won no one can ever win and then when i win it's like holy shit big cat humanized winning the 50

37:56Doug Pederson:50 wrap yes yeah like put a face to it yeah like representation matters like tebow watching film

38:01PFT Commenter:with his kid that's yeah it's impressive yeah so awesome time uh again lost boys will put the go fund me uh all my winnings and then summer's gonna go to the lost boys great great people and we're gonna do more stuff with them and we're gonna do a fundraiser and it's gonna be awesome

38:16Doug Pederson:yes what would you say to someone out there who's maybe like in a similar spot to you that's been you know trying for a long time to to get the numbers of the 50 50 and maybe feels like there's no hope that sounds specific i'd say just pick the winner just win he did it 11 times in a row just win right like yeah i've never won so i'm trying to learn from from you yeah yeah i'll

38:41PFT Commenter:teach you i could teach anyone i could get anyone to pick right numbers if they follow me what's it yeah what's the secret win okay fucking win just do it yeah just do it win and thank you uh personally to all the boys here for uh congratulating me on text uh right away yeah minus one person who is still not congratulating me who did it so back to those hypotheticals uh hank let's say

39:11Doug Pederson:Big Cat had somebody else's ticket that they picked the right number with. I already asked Big Cat about this scenario. Nobody accused him of that. What? Would Big Cat be the winner? It's somebody else's ticket with their number. Is Big Cat claiming it? What do you mean? No, no, no. You're arguing the opposite of what happened to you. If someone bought Big Cat a ticket and handed it to him. No, no, no. Wait, wait, wait. First of all, it's the lottery. First of all, Nick, it's the... I bought all my own tickets. No, no, this is not hypothetical. No, what he's talking about here is if two people bought tickets and then they gave each other the other tickets.

39:46Doug Pederson:Yeah. And they're like, okay, that's your ticket. Now this is my ticket. That's what you're talking about. But I bought the ticket.

39:51PFT Commenter:Right, but he bought a ticket. PFT bought a ticket too and you swapped. No, no, no. We agreed to swap.

39:55Doug Pederson:Big Cat claimed the winner in this hypothetical. What? That's not a hypothetical.

39:58PFT Commenter:And we agreed to swap. Yeah, you agreed to swap. We didn't.

40:01Doug Pederson:Nobody agreed to swap.

40:02PFT Commenter:No, you had to swap. That's part of the price of playing the game. You also forget. Your goal was to not pick.

40:08Doug Pederson:Yeah.

40:09PFT Commenter:Your goal was to not pick. Your goal is to always pick the right number. Also, memes, me winning the 50-50 never should have been confused with the lottery ball. You started that. No, you started it. No, you started it. No, you started it. You started it. You started it. You started it. How did I start it? You were like, I'm going to get it before you. No, that's not true. That's not true. I remember the day I walked in because someone tweeted you. He was like, memes, you should ask Big Cat if he's ever gotten the 50-50. And you started saying at the end of the show, have you ever gotten the 50-50?

40:42PFT Commenter:Yeah, but then you were like, I got the 50-50 before you got the lottery ball.

40:46Doug Pederson:No, and then you were like, I'm going to get it before you. And then I did. And unfortunately, that happened.

40:49PFT Commenter:And then I did. So why are you mad? I don't know. He's mad at me. He won't congratulate me. I still don't understand why you're mad about this. Memes.

41:00Doug Pederson:Think about the Lost Boys memes. Yes.

41:03PFT Commenter:How much were you doing? I wrote a check for$75 ,000 to loss me. So you're doing$50 ,000 and then$25 ,000? It's actually more like$25 ,000 and then$50 ,000 because I'm only going to get$25 ,000 from the$50 ,000 -$50 ,000 after taxes. But yeah. I'll match the$25 ,000. I didn't do that in my head. I'll match the$25 ,000. I love that. I love that. Memes, will you match? I don't got the facility for that. We're going to do a bunch of stuff with them, so I appreciate that, PFT. You know what we'll do? We'll do a fundraiser where we can match the fundraiser and get people going like that. I like that.

41:37PFT Commenter:We're all matching. Yeah, we'll all match everything. But memes, I am, you should, instead of being mad at me and refusing to congratulate me and refusing to look me in the eye and being like to the point where I had to have Zach carry a taser all day because I was worried, you should look at me and say, that guy never gave up. That guy did something that seemed impossible, and that's what you need to do.

42:09PFT Commenter:Do you have a comment, Memes? I'm an inspiration to you. No, you're not.

42:18Doug Pederson:Do you think Memes' hate watch rankings have switched after the 50s? I was so upset that Memes had left the office. I wanted to pull the security footage so bad.

42:30PFT Commenter:Oh, man, it was so good. Of the live reaction. The funniest thing is Meme's just outright admitting he's like, I did not post a single thing about Big Cat hitting the 50-50 on the, pardon my take, Instagram or Twitter.

42:42Doug Pederson:I was like, sure. I was like, at least it's good for your job. Must have crushed social media. I didn't post anything.

42:47PFT Commenter:I like that fettiness. I love it.

42:50Doug Pederson:Yeah, I haven't followed anybody on my feed that reposted that.

42:53PFT Commenter:Wait, did you unfollow me?

42:55Doug Pederson:Yeah.

42:55PFT Commenter:Oh, me.

42:57Doug Pederson:Memes, did you unfollow me? No, you didn't post a video. Okay. I didn't post a video. Yeah. You unfollowed me? Apparently, I've unfollowed Max for a long time.

43:07PFT Commenter:That's fucked up.

43:12PFT Commenter:Oh, man. All right. Well, let's do the weekend picks and preview. Memes, you're going to get it today.

43:21Dan Katz:No, this is one of the worst weeks in American history. He said that.

43:25PFT Commenter:he said to me i was like i went and sat next to him i was like memes like let's just talk guy to guy here like are you really mad at me and he's like why did you have to win that this week and pile on yeah i was just like i don't know what that means you know what memes there's a quote

43:41Doug Pederson:from a great orator of all our time me khalifa she said you feel jealous when you see a bad bitch i feel inspired you gotta switch the paradigm up start feeling inspired not jealous yeah it was a bad week and then to top it off after that fucking happened i was playing madden i was i'm re i'm currently rebuilding the jets after one season i got fired i didn't even know that was possible neither did i know that was possible which was your record i won three games it just said you're fired and then i had to retire

44:21PFT Commenter:I love that. When did this happen? Probably like two hours after. Oh, no. So you were just sitting in your apartment with your seven TVs playing Madden, and you got fired from your hypothetical Jets job. Yeah, I made a bunch of good trades.

44:37Doug Pederson:We were rebuilding.

44:39PFT Commenter:That is the darkest thing I've ever heard.

44:41Doug Pederson:Especially when you consider that the fans that wanted you fired, that's you. Yeah. And I said I had one rebuild left in me. I couldn't even do it. Oh, no, memes.

44:53PFT Commenter:That's a bad day. I didn't know you got fired, dude. I wish you had told me you got fired. Why didn't you tell me you got fired, memes?

45:01Doug Pederson:I got fired. I tweeted out. People won't stop liking it. Memes, can I just read you a stat real quick? Because I know that you're feeling down about the Jets, and that's fine. Oh, fuck. You know Joe Gibbs went 0-5 at the start of his first season? You know Chuck Knoll went 1-13? Wow. You know Jimmy Johnson went 1-15? Yeah. You know Bill Walsh went 2-14? in his first season? Peyton Manning won three games his first year. Yeah. It's a process, man. This tweet has 26 ,000 likes. You got fired. I got fired. Holy shit, man. Good numbers. Good numbers. Numbers are numbers, man. Numbers are numbers. We're on a 2K.

45:41PFT Commenter:Wait. Yeah, so it says September 23rd, rebuilding the Jets on Madden, October 1st, got fired after one season.

45:53PFT Commenter:Oh memes

45:56Doug Pederson:We did a lot of bad articles about your team Why'd you get fired?

45:59PFT Commenter:I don't know I really don't Did you go to bed after?

46:05Doug Pederson:Do the trades get graded on the game Or are you just deciding they were good trades? I was deciding they were good trades

46:11PFT Commenter:I traded for Jordan Davis So you on Wednesday night You saw me win the 50-50 You obviously were very upset And mad at me and then you're like, I'm going to just, you know what? I'm going to turn off the internet for a minute and I'm just going to get back into my Jets rebuild and then boom, Woody Johnson fired your ass. Fired.

46:33Doug Pederson:Did you take any comfort at all watching Hank loose tonight?

46:37PFT Commenter:No, because it's the Yankees.

46:39Doug Pederson:Yeah, that didn't even make you happy? That's so sad. Yeah, no.

46:42PFT Commenter:He needs the Yankees to loose. Damn. The Blue Jays now. Yeah. Okay, let's do our picks and preview and then we'll have Coach Doug Peterson in studio, and then we'll finish up with Firefest. Look, some snacks just show up. Blue Diamond Almonds and more shows out.

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47:38PFT Commenter:The flavorful nut mix. All right, boys. Week five. We got another. We're going to start with another game overseas. shout out hank uh it is vikings at browns browns are four and a half point favorites over under is 36 and a half right now it is dylan gabriel time and it's a weird one because shador sanders did a uh media moment with uh where he mimed everything well this is what i'm saying the

48:08Doug Pederson:man can't exist yeah so you get mad at dylan gabriel or you get mad at dylan when he seems like he's taking a shot at Chador. Chador, as a smart backup, saw that you can get in trouble if you talk to the media as a backup. So he didn't say anything. And now everyone's like, look how immature this guy is. Yeah, he can't exist.

48:24PFT Commenter:It's sad. It was a little ridiculous. I thought it was fake. Yeah. I thought something was wrong with like he wasn't mic'd up or something. It was so bizarre to watch.

48:34Doug Pederson:Yeah, they're calling him mime time. His dad was prime time. He's mime time. Listen, I think that he could have handled it a little bit better, like saying at least a couple words. If you don't want to say anything as a quarterback, there's great ways to not say anything as an athlete. There are countless examples of it. You can just be like, I just want to support my team. And just keep repeating that. He probably could have handled it better. And then actually the worst part for me was when I found out why he did that. Allegedly it was a response to something Rex Ryan said. If Rex Ryan is in your head, Rex Ryan talks on TV.

49:07Doug Pederson:He's a man that exists in an electric box that you opt into looking at. Yep. he has nothing to do with the NFL right now. He was almost the coach of the Jets, but he's not in the league. If Rex Ryan is taking up any space at all in your head to the point where you're going to react to that in a press conference, I feel like you're already a little bit behind the eight ball.

49:27PFT Commenter:I would agree. I would agree. You can't let Rex trigger you. So, fun stat. Ready for this? Dylan Gabriel starting every single Oklahoma starting QB from 2015 to 2023 is now starting in the NFL. Oklahoma. oklahoma okay isn't that crazy that is crazy so baker jalen hurts kyler murray spencer rattler caleb caleb williams dylan gabriel that's crazy that's nuts absolute shout out quarterback factory i mean like to think about that it must have won so many championships six six quarterbacks yeah all started for oklahoma at one point or another uh is nuts it's also very interesting looking at the NFC North right now this is why when we do we always have to do the preseason look at your schedule do the wins and losses but we do also have to remind ourselves that you never know how it's going to shake out because now in the AFC North the only starting quarterback who started week one who's still alive as of right now is Aaron Rodgers who's 41 years old so it's Aaron Rodgers for the Steelers Cooper Rush is going to be starting for the Ravens because Lamar's out for a couple weeks.

50:37PFT Commenter:Dylan Gabriel starting for the Browns and Jake Browning starting for the Bengals. We don't know shit.

50:42Doug Pederson:We don't know anything. You can always, I think both these teams probably circled this game as a potential win. Yep. Because if you're the Browns, you see the Vikings, but it's overseas. Anything can happen. You're going to write that in as one of your like five or six projected wins for the season. If you're a Vikings fan, you see the Browns on the schedule, you write that in as a W. Yep. But I don't think anybody predicted that it was going to be Dylan Gabriel against Carson Wentz. Yes. At this point. Yes. It also is. It's a very British matchup because Carson Wentz looks like Prince Harry. Yep.

51:09Doug Pederson:Exactly, like Prince Harry. Joe Flacco, some are saying maybe Prince Charles. I like that. A little bit older. And then obviously we talked about this, but Deshaun Watson, Prince Andrew. Prince Andrew. And now with Shadour, he's like the Buckingham Palace guard.

51:21PFT Commenter:Yeah, that's true.

51:23Doug Pederson:He's silent. Yeah, won't say anything.

51:26PFT Commenter:Anyone want to guess how many quarterbacks have started for the Browns since 1999?

51:30Doug Pederson:I know this, so I'll abstain. Okay.

51:33PFT Commenter:1999. So that is 26 years. I'm going to go with 42. Very close. Wow. 41.

51:41Doug Pederson:Wow. Yeah, that was an ask the office question this week.

51:44PFT Commenter:Okay, not only that, but so 41, that's like, all right, 1999, that's a long time. Can't really comprehend it. It's kind of like my earth stat that... Blink of an eye. Yeah, that kind of fucked everyone up on Wednesday's show. This is the 10th starting quarterback just since Baker Mayfield last started for the Browns in 2021. Dylan Gabriel, Joe Flacco, Bailey Zappi, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, Jameis Winston, Deshaun Watson, Jeff Driscoll, PJ Walker, Jacoby Brissett, Case Keenum. Yikes.

52:16Doug Pederson:It's sad. That Cleveland Browns jersey, shout out to the guy for updating it constantly, for keeping it going. That is the Vietnam wall of quarterbacks.

52:24PFT Commenter:It's pretty brutal. I also have probably the most insulting quote a coach has ever given before a game. but if you don't know the context you're like oh that was nice of him this comes from brian flores did you see what brian flores said about this game and dylan gabriel i'm gonna blitz the fuck out of him no he said i'm very excited i see a lot of tua tagliavoa in this young man he's a lefty with some degree of mobility his film shows his thought process is similar to his as well this whole week i've just been preparing as if we're facing tua it's been great i'm eager to watch this young man go against what we have in store for him brian flores hated tua to the point where tua said that he had to go to therapy for two years to like fix his confidence that is so mean of brian flores to say i see tua the guy i fucking almost ended his career by just hating him and bullying him as i was his head coach in dylan gabriel yeah this is bad that's so mean so do

53:25Doug Pederson:you think dylan gabriel sees that quote and knows that or do you think he sees that and he's like Like, okay, I look up to Tua.

53:30PFT Commenter:I hope that no one tells him the context of Brian Flores and Tua's relationship. Yeah. You just got to leave it. You just got to be like, whatever.

53:38Doug Pederson:It's a very, very mean thing for him to say.

53:40PFT Commenter:Yeah, very mean. But, yeah, this game, it is going to be interesting to see Brian Flores versus a rookie court. I actually like the Browns in this game.

53:49Doug Pederson:Well, I do too. Ew. No, no, hear me out. Yeah, let's hear us out. Yeah, hear us out. Hear us out. It's because the Browns' defense obviously is elite, top three defense in the NFL. The Vikings are going to blitz the fuck out of Dylan Gabriel. They're going to confuse him. It's going to be a low-scoring game. What's the line on this game?

54:06PFT Commenter:It's 36 and a half.

54:07Doug Pederson:Oh, it's 36 and a half now? 36 and a half, which is the lowest total in the 51 international games that have ever been played. Lunder. I'm taking the Lunder on it. But what's the line? The line's four and a half. The spread. Four and a half. I like the Browns to keep it within a field goal. So here's my reasoning.

54:25PFT Commenter:Yes, Brian Flores is probably going to put Dylan Gabriel in a little bit of a torture chamber. I do think that Dylan Gabriel might, with some quick passing game, might be a little bit of mobility that Joe Flacco didn't have. Yeah. Have a little bit of spark, kind of like Jackson Dart. Not as good as Jackson Dart, but you saw Jackson Dart go into that Giants offense that was lifeless the week before against the Chiefs. A little bit of pop, but more than anything, the Vikings offensive line is really banged up, and they just got bullied by the Steelers. Do you know who has a better defensive line than the Steelers?

54:58PFT Commenter:The Cleveland Browns. Yeah. So as much as it's like Dylan Gabriel against Brian Flores, I think it's just as much the Browns' defense going up against Carson Wentz. This feels like a game that's going to just be gross, messy, and if you give me four and a half, I'm going to take it.

55:13Doug Pederson:Yeah, so Minnesota almost got to the point where they had to play a tight end as an offensive lineman last week. Right. They're down three starters. I love the Browns' defensive line. The Browns' offensive line, yeah, they've been banged up. They've been hurt too. But guess what? Having somebody who can move back there is going to make that line look a little bit better. Yeah. Just a little bit. Now, I'm not saying the Browns are going to win, but I could 14-10. I could see 14-10 in this game.

55:36PFT Commenter:14-10 feels exactly right.

55:37Doug Pederson:Carson Wentz doing a weird, sad slapstick fumble where he throws the ball accidentally backwards seven yards and Myles Garrett picks it up, goes in the end zone, then hits him on the head with it.

55:46PFT Commenter:Like, just close your eyes and just think about Myles Garrett coming off the edge and Carson Wentz not feeling the pressure at all in a strip sack. Yeah, I can see that. That absolutely plays. Okay, next game. The Las Vegas Raiders plus 6.5 at the Indianapolis Colts over under 47.5. The Raiders are a mess. The Colts just beat themselves. This is a get-right spot for the Colts. I agree. That was more of a question. I actually don't know because I kind of want to take the Raiders, but I also want people to talk me off.

56:21Doug Pederson:No, I agree. I think it's good for the Colts. I think this matchup's good for the Colts. Right now, Geno Smith has not looked like Geno Smith. Well, maybe he has. Depends on which Geno Smith you're inquiring about. The one that hasn't shown up yet, I don't think is going to show up this week.

56:35PFT Commenter:Yeah.

56:36Doug Pederson:And Pete Carroll is defending him in the media saying, everything looks great in practice. Oh. That is on the stage. We talk about how a coach might be starting to think about maybe he's going to be fired, and then he passes the play calling stuff around. He starts getting angry at everybody that tries to talk to him. He says, we're going to take a long look in the mirror. It starts and it ends with me. These are all the things on that list. In terms of benching a quarterback, I think really hyping up how good he is at practice is probably right there on that list.

57:07PFT Commenter:It's never good to say we had great practice.

57:09Doug Pederson:He said he hits everything in practice. He's ridiculously accurate. He has been the whole time we've been together. He's really confident. He thought he could get it. But game speed was a little different. That's where he grows. The game speed is a little different than the practice that we can create. So Geno Smith just needs to see more games. He hasn't been in the league long enough to really feel the difference between game speed and practice speed.

57:31PFT Commenter:Yeah. I don't like that quote. No. I don't like that at all. Ashton Jadney brought his stance back. I know that was a little bit of a story. Michael Myers, he calls it. Which, he's not the first guy to do it. I think Gibbs does it. I think Nick Chubb used to do it. it's cool it looks awesome standing vertically yeah yeah just standing just as relaxed as possible he said that i think i saw the quote he's like i like to just be as relaxed as possible read the defense why do i need to be bent over do you see what michael irvin said the other week

58:01Doug Pederson:about receivers no he's like i wish that they would get back in a three-point stance oh that'd be awesome wouldn't it that would be i guess the problem is you can get jammed real easy off the

58:09PFT Commenter:line if you're in a three-point stance yeah you could just basically stand over them and shove them down but sprinters they get down in a three-point stance when they take off it would probably work just as a if you don't show it on film and you just do it during a game. Yeah. Cornerbacks would probably be a little fucked up.

58:24Doug Pederson:It would psych them out a little bit.

58:26PFT Commenter:Yeah. We also have this is a low sample size but I'll just throw it out there. Alex Kemp is the ref in this game. He is the Raiders are 0-3 when he officiates a game. Very small sample size but just throw it in there. You know. But it is the Raiders too. It is the Raiders. Yeah. He's 0-3 when the Raiders are 0-3 when he calls a game. So maybe, maybe. I feel like Daniel Jones, this is a big week of he's got to get back. He's got to get back. We've got to get back on the Daniel Jones maybe Dark Horse MVP talk.

59:01Doug Pederson:When we talked about last game, going into that Rams-Colts game, we laid out some scenarios and how we're going to talk about the Colts after that game. I don't think that we had AD Mitchell costing them two touchdowns when we went into that.

59:13PFT Commenter:I would agree.

59:13Doug Pederson:But in terms of like Daniel Jones the narrative around him. I don't think that it didn't suffer that much this weekend. No. The narrative was just like, oh, the Colts gave that game away. They could have won it very easily.

59:23PFT Commenter:Multiple times they gave it away.

59:24Doug Pederson:Yeah, but this one against the Raiders defense, I feel like at home with Mr. Ursae watching from above, Mrs. Ursae, Ms. Ursae? Is there a Mr. Ursae? I don't know. Zach, possibly. She does have a husband also named Zach. Oh, so she has a type. That's what the street's saying. Okay. So, yeah, she'll be there. I like the Colts. I think the Colts get back. Yeah. Put up a bunch of points. This is going to be a high-scoring game, I think.

59:53PFT Commenter:I saw – did Anthony Richardson comment about possibly going to the Rams? But there's obviously there's there's there's always smoke where it's like, hey, quarterback who has all the traits. How does he get fixed? Send him to Sean McVay camp. Yeah. Or Kevin O 'Connell camp or, you know, Kyle Shanahan camp.

1:00:12Doug Pederson:It's a little early to be doing that.

1:00:14PFT Commenter:It is. But oh, yeah, here we go. According to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, Richardson would like to play for a premier play caller such as Sean McVay. That's weird. He's on the team as a tight end. unclear but that is that's kind of weird that there's a report that he wants to play for the Rams when he's on the Colts

1:00:33Doug Pederson:I feel like Steichen is also a really good play caller yeah so I don't I don't understand why he thinks a different good play caller would be better he just needs to change the scenery yeah but that implies that Steichen is a bad play caller well or not a premier play caller maybe Shane Steichen never told him hey don't take yourself out of the game because you're tired yeah and I think that's something that Sean McVay has always emphasized and preached. That's true. You're the quarterback. You're going to stay in every play.

1:01:00PFT Commenter:Yeah. By the way, Daniel Jones, fourth in completion percentage this season. You want to know who's won?

1:01:07Doug Pederson:Drake May.

1:01:08PFT Commenter:Drake May.

1:01:08Doug Pederson:Bang. Drake Graff. One of those Graffs. The Graffs.

1:01:12PFT Commenter:It's been a great week of Graffs. You've been all up in the Graffs? It's been a great week of Graffs.

1:01:15Doug Pederson:I think, and we'll get to this game later, I think this is the week for Drake May, Hank. I think this is the week. I do, too. I think this is the week. Money line. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's the week. Passing the torch.

1:01:25PFT Commenter:Yeah, Drake May 74%, Jared Goff 73.8%, Dak 72.9%, and then Daniel Jones in fourth 71.9%. What are you looking at me like that for, Hank? I'm happy.

1:01:35Doug Pederson:I'm happy you're on my side. No, you've got to look on you. I know what you're doing, but I like it. I like it. I don't know what I'm doing. I know what you're doing.

1:01:42PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:01:43Doug Pederson:Max knows what you're doing. What am I doing, Max? I don't want to be lumped into this.

1:01:48PFT Commenter:It's weak. Okay, next game. We got the, what is it? Oh, it's the Saints. Saints. Giants at Saints. Saints minus one and a half over under 42 and a half. Congratulations to Jackson Dart. We missed this. He was slimed. He won the MVP this week. Yeah, congrats, Jackson. So he got actually slimed after his win. What, you don't like?

1:02:12Doug Pederson:MVP should be playoffs. They're ruining the. They do it weekly. It's a weekly award. Yeah, but it's better when it's playoffs.

1:02:19PFT Commenter:I agree. Yeah. We also had Brian Dable. I think he's back. I think Brian Dable might be back. I actually like the Saints in this game, and it might be a really stupid thing to say, but I saw Spencer Rattler said he feels like he's not playing losing football, which is key. That's the first thing you got to do. I believe him, even though he's 0-10. Yeah. He doesn't feel like he's playing losing football. That's a horrible thing to say. No. That means he's never going to play winning football.

1:02:48Doug Pederson:No. Mike McDaniel told us. He thinks he's playing good football and losing. You got to not lose. Yeah. You can't do things that lose the game. And he's not doing things that lose the game. He is. He's just not doing. He's lost every game. No, he's not doing things that lose the game. And the next thing he has to work on is doing things to win the game.

1:03:05PFT Commenter:Yeah. So right now, he's not losing the game. They're just losing every time he plays.

1:03:10Doug Pederson:Ever. And it was a weird spread week. I'm not bad at golf. I just never score well. Yeah. Yeah. Hank, you are the king of saying great shot, bad result. Fact or fiction. Yeah, that's what losers, that's loser talk.

1:03:25PFT Commenter:That is literally cope. Shit, he kind of got us there. That's the definition of cope. Yeah. Thought I hit that well. Yeah.

1:03:32Doug Pederson:So this spread earlier in the week, the Giants were favored. Then it swung.

1:03:38PFT Commenter:Are the Saints still favored? Saints are favored by a half.

1:03:40Doug Pederson:One and a half. By one and a half. Yeah. I like the Saints this weekend. I don't think Spencer Rattler is not 0-10 bad. I think I said this last week. You believe him. You believe his losing football quote. I believe his losing football quote. I thought he competed well last week.

1:03:56PFT Commenter:Yeah, this is – all right. Hank might be right. Because I'm with you, PFT, but hearing you say it after I said it. No, I believe it.

1:04:05Doug Pederson:Saying someone competed well. Maybe it's a me problem because I did pick the Saints to beat the Seahawks. I picked the Saints to cover against the Bills, which they did. I think that, yeah, the Saints are riding high off a competitive game. Yeah. Riding off a competitive game, Hank. You got to stack those. Come on. I do think they can win this game just because it's the Giants and a rookie.

1:04:27PFT Commenter:And no Malik neighbors, which obviously sucks. Brian Dable was asked about the turf because that is – it is so ridiculous that for the World Cup they're turfing all these fields. Yeah. And then they're just going to go back – or they're grassing all these fields and they're going to go back to turf. but he was asked about the turf or the grass and he said we're getting ready to play the Saints. That's where my focus is. Yeah. What if he can't do anything? No. He can. He could ask. Iberflus got the grass fixed at Soldier Field. Is it fixed? Oh, they went to like a different cut. They like reseeded it?

1:05:00Doug Pederson:Yeah, they went to like a Bahama or split grass.

1:05:03PFT Commenter:I don't fucking know.

1:05:04Doug Pederson:Is that the best thing that Iberflus did? By far. Just field management? Yes. Yeah, he was really good at that? Yes, absolutely. It's not even close. Yeah, I mean, obviously we're a pro-grass podcast. Always. Player safety. When we say player safety, we mean it. Yeah. Unlike everyone else. If I had an NFL stadium, I would make sure it was grass. Absolutely. That's just a fact.

1:05:26PFT Commenter:I don't know why. I really do think it comes down to just a cost thing, which is so ridiculous in terms of how much money the NFL makes. And it's like, how would you not want your investments, your players, to be as safe as possible? that seems like business 101 maybe if you're uh the if you're you know the giants and you're like hey it will cost a couple hundred thousand dollars extra to maintain a grass field at met life but maybe we will have one or two less of our guys tear an acl i would take that trade

1:06:02Doug Pederson:every single day but counterpoint when taylor swift is on tour do you want her to play a at your stadium so that you can take your daughters to the game and then have her think that you're really cool because you've got a great seats in a suite. They still can.

1:06:15PFT Commenter:Soldier Field still does concerts. It's just your grass is going to. All right. So here's where the debate comes. Is really bad, poorly maintained grass safer than turf? I think yes. Probably. Depends. What about the Sodfather? Sodfather fucked things up. Yeah. He fucked things up bad.

1:06:32Doug Pederson:Yeah. I do like the Saints this weekend. I also really enjoy watching Dart and Scadaboo.

1:06:39PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:06:39Doug Pederson:So, like, somehow the Giants are fun. It does suck that they don't have neighbors, but I am looking forward to that. And I'm loving every second of Brian Dable just embracing the very notion that his job might be saved. Yes. He's like, this is all I need right now.

1:06:53PFT Commenter:He had to wake up on Monday morning and be like, holy shit, I don't know what this feeling is. Yeah. I might be okay. All right, next game. Cowboys at Jets. Cowboys are two-and-a-half point favorites over under 47-and-a-half. Memes, how are we feeling? They're wearing black uniforms. I like that. I like that. And I think the Cowboys are wearing the uniforms that I don't like. So I'm going to give a point right there to the Jets. The Cowboys are wearing their – you know the white with the blue on the shoulder? Yeah. They're gross. I don't like those uniforms.

1:07:29Doug Pederson:No. Memes. Yes. I have a blind resume for you.

1:07:34PFT Commenter:Oh, I like this. I think I know.

1:07:37Doug Pederson:Okay, well, I'll do the blind resume. Stop me if you've heard it before, but everybody else can answer. Max, why don't you answer? Here are two quarterbacks in the NFL. Okay. Quarterback one has 471 passing yards. I have. Okay. You're going to ask. I think there's a reason why you asked me to answer this question. Okay, well, Hank. Okay. Okay, I'm asking Hank. Hank, QB1 has 471 passing yards. Yep. QB2 has. This is this season. This season. So 471. Solid. QB2 has 383 passing yards. Not solid. Quarterback one has two pass touchdowns. Not great. Quarterback two also has two passing touchdowns.

1:08:16PFT Commenter:Okay.

1:08:17Doug Pederson:Quarterback one has 178 rushing yards. Quarterback two has 139 rushing yards. Okay. Quarterback one has three rushing touchdowns. Oh. quarterback two has four rushing touchdowns. Who are you taking? QB one or QB two?

1:08:36PFT Commenter:QB one.

1:08:37Doug Pederson:Yeah. The stats are better. Objectively. Any guesses as to who the two quarterbacks are? I'm going to guess Justin Fields because we're talking about the Jets. And then I will guess.

1:08:49PFT Commenter:Lamar.

1:08:50Doug Pederson:I was going to say Caleb, but he has more passing touchdowns than that. It's got to be Jalen Hurts. That's why you asked. That's why you were going to. No. It is Jalen Hurts. 391 yards? It is, Jalen. Wait, but that's one game? No, that's, yeah. Does anyone want to raise their hand? Every team has four wins on this podcast. Who has four wins? I'll put my hand up. I might have screwed up the stat. Oh, you fucking asshole.

1:09:18PFT Commenter:It's a blind resume done by a blind guy.

1:09:21Doug Pederson:Blind resume. These stats are from weeks one, two, and four of this season.

1:09:26PFT Commenter:Oh, my God. Well, no, but Justin Fields didn't play week three.

1:09:30Doug Pederson:Yeah, he didn't play week three. Okay. Yeah, for weeks one, two, and three. Yeah, this is a joke. But still, weeks one, two, and three. Who do you take? I've got to say 393 yards is crazy.

1:09:39PFT Commenter:Who do you take? Jussie.

1:09:41Doug Pederson:Yeah.

1:09:42PFT Commenter:I like this new blind resume thing we can do. It's blind resume by a blind guy. PFT or I do a blind resume, and we intentionally fuck up at least one stat. So you've got to decide on the blind resume and also figure out what stat we fucked up.

1:09:56Doug Pederson:Well, to be fair, I mean, who makes a blind resume where it's weeks one, two, and four? I did not see that one coming.

1:10:04PFT Commenter:Memes, I like the Jets this week. I do, too.

1:10:10Doug Pederson:Braylon Allen went on IR, so we're going to see more. Brees Hall. More Brees Hall. Like that. Michael Carter went on. Michael Carter has a concussion. We had Brownlee from the Titans who we traded for a couple weeks ago. The PFF stats of the bad players from last week have improved, so coaching is there. They just got to figure out the penalties and not fumble the fucking ball.

1:10:38PFT Commenter:I got something for you from Sports Info Solutions. So they sent me this. The Jets have been blitzed more often than most teams, but the Jets are actually a pretty good success. They have a pretty good success rate against a four-man rush. So blitzing has worked against the Jets. The Cowboys rush four over 70 % of the time, so they do not blitz. And I don't think they have solutions on defense. So I think the Jets are going to have a nice day offensively. I hope so. Just run the ball. Yeah.

1:11:12Doug Pederson:Count the rock. Win like 21 to 17, just get out of there. So the Cowboys stink at defending mobile quarterbacks too. so they uh they let russell wilson he averaged 7.7 yards on his runs against the cowboys uh jordan love had his longest run of the year they stink against mobile quarterbacks i think hurts yeah hurts had 60 yards two touchdowns in week one you have a pretty mobile quarterback very mobile just like run run the damn ball and then on your pass plays just have unless there's a guy wide open have jussie just tuck it run yeah what about what about what aaron glenn said about you guys about to pop are you guys about to pop i love that i don't love what justin field said but he kind of said the same thing that i said yeah that's a bad mindset to have okay so justin

1:12:01PFT Commenter:fields uh similar to my earth is a 24 hour day and we only show up in the last minute and that's how small life is human life is and we're all inconsequential justin field said uh we're blessed at the end of the day, you look at the bigger picture in life for getting paid well to play a child's sport. Good perspective. Great perspective. Great perspective. Maybe not a winning perspective. I kind of see, now that I've said it out loud, I kind of see where you're coming from. Not a winning perspective. But good perspective. It's very good perspective. Memes, we get paid to do idiot jazz on this show.

1:12:37Doug Pederson:Yeah, but sometimes you got to make shit up like Baker and just find extra motivation. Yeah. Yeah. There's a little bit too much perspective, I think, from Justin. When you start to think about yourself as being in the top 0.001 % of people that ever played quarterback that's ever existed, that's definitely some cope.

1:12:56PFT Commenter:But maybe he's not getting down on himself. You want his confidence there.

1:13:00Doug Pederson:I'm in the top 0.001 % of tall people in the history of the earth. That's true. Wait, is it? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean. Are you sure? Back in the 1700s. I think all the kids had died early. Yeah, that's a great point. That's true. Great point. Think about all those dead kids, Hank. And also, yeah, everybody until like 1900 was 5 '5". Everyone stop for a second and think about the dead kids. Pour one out like 200 years ago. I was trying to think of people that died shorter than PFT. Yeah, that's true. Basically just children. Short kings. King Tut.

1:13:30PFT Commenter:That was mean.

1:13:31Doug Pederson:He was literally a short king. No, what he said. Oh, all the people that died.

1:13:35PFT Commenter:No, he said, think about all the people that are smaller than PFT, It was basically just children.

1:13:40Doug Pederson:That's just not true. Hank slashing. He's pre-lashing because he thinks I'm going to do some weird Drake May thing with him. But it is. This is the week.

1:13:47PFT Commenter:The defenses are up today. The defenses are up. I'm happy that I have a bye week this week. We should have mentioned that. There are bye weeks this week. Steelers, Bears. I had it written down. Shit. Falcons, Packers. Yes. Early bye week. I kind of like it just in the fact that we don't have the overload 10 games in the noon slot. Yeah. It's bad, bad, bad podcasting. No, go for it. It's great. That's the name of it.

1:14:21Doug Pederson:It's great if the Cubs won. Okay. My week.

1:14:26PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah, yeah. Having the Cubs to focus. Yeah, we're taping this in the morning. We don't know the result. Obviously, you heard it at the beginning of the show. Yeah. Yeah. It would be nice because then I'd have Saturday and Sunday. Yeah, but we'll see. Yeah, you're right. You're right. That was bad broadcasting. Okay. Broncos at Eagles. Broncos plus three and a half. The over-under is 43 and a half. Max, how are we feeling? This feels like maybe the Broncos got their mojo back going into Philadelphia.

1:14:57Doug Pederson:Or it feels like a game that A.J. Brown is in the media, and then he goes off for like 250 yards against Patrick Sertain, and then everyone is like, oh, yeah, that's A.J. Brown. Are you concerned that that type of result would reward this behavior? No, I'm not concerned by that at all. I applaud this type of behavior if that's what comes from it.

1:15:18PFT Commenter:Do you think there's a chance we get a jersey swap between the white cornerbacks? Because this is a momentous game. We get the white cornerbacks, two in one game. It's been a long time.

1:15:29Doug Pederson:I like calling your shot on that. Yeah. That's a good call your shot.

1:15:33PFT Commenter:We need the jersey swap.

1:15:35Doug Pederson:I think so. Got you. I think we're going to get it. When are we going to get this again? We don't see color, but it would be nice if they did it. Just a collar swap. Yeah. A collar swap.

1:15:45PFT Commenter:Yeah. Lunch pail swap. Vic Fangio revenge game?

1:15:49Doug Pederson:For some reason, I thought you were talking about like priests. I think the collar with priests. I don't know. Okay.

1:15:57PFT Commenter:Vic Fangio revenge game?

1:15:59Doug Pederson:Yeah. They've been asking him about it this week. and Vic Fangio is a sort of, he doesn't give a fuck about it.

1:16:04PFT Commenter:Yeah, how long does a revenge game stay active? Because he was the coach of the Broncos, got fired by the Broncos, but the Broncos have since had multiple coaches and new ownership.

1:16:13Doug Pederson:Yeah.

1:16:13PFT Commenter:I think the new ownership eliminates that.

1:16:15Doug Pederson:Changes it? I don't think Vic Fangio really cares. I think Vic Fangio is happy to be coaching in Philly and watching the Phils.

1:16:23PFT Commenter:What they need to do is they need to, the big Dom needs to create like a dossier and put it on Vic Fangio's desk, and it's like a fake quote from the Walton family of them being like, hey, here's their introductory press conference when they bought the Broncos, and they just wanted to clear they never would have hired Vic Fangio. First statement, we're excited to be with the Denver Broncos just so we can clean up what happened in the past. Vic Fangio was the biggest mistake the Denver Broncos ever made. We'll never do that again. Sounds good. Just get him pumped up.

1:16:52Doug Pederson:I think he is thinking about it a little bit, though, because he was ready to go on the K-ball stuff. like he threw some red meat out there when he was talking to the press about like hey kickers are just making every field goal now because they got their own balls somebody's gonna make a 70 oh yeah yeah like that was a I can't imagine that he really cares that deeply about it no he seems like a guy that's like fuck the kickers I don't like the kickers getting this much shine sort of coach okay so he feels like he's playing good enough defense to get stops right and he's giving up points for things that it's It's a dead ball era.

1:17:26Doug Pederson:It's bullshit. He should be pumped about it. He was like, those points should not count. These balls are easier to block. Is that true? Well, for the Eagles, they are. Yeah, Eagles are blocking the shit out of them. But I don't think it has anything to do with the ball. That just has pure strength. I think it's scheme. We need to look at these are more blockable balls. Memes had a question. Yes, Memes. Vic Fangio already had his revenge game. He was the defensive coordinator for the Dolphins when they won 70 to 20.

1:17:52PFT Commenter:But he hasn't for the – but also Vic Fangio, when he was on the – when he was a Broncos head coach, he went into Philly, and the Eagles beat him 31-20. Double revenge. Or 31-13. 30-13. So he needs to get revenge for that with the Eagles. Against the Eagles? Yeah. No, I don't know.

1:18:10Doug Pederson:I don't know. You lost me there. That's revenge. I think memes might be right. If you stop a team like that, it's like the best revenge is living well. Yeah. Your dragon has been slayed. I did like what Sean Payton said, though, because he's doing reverse bulletin board material. Okay. Smart guy. Been around for a while. Just basically sucked the Eagles dick in the tush push and said, I saw that. He's like, I like the play. It's bullshit. They're trying to ban it. It's a quarterback sneak, and they run it better than anybody else does. And I voted to not ban it. So shout out to the tush push. I also think that this is probably Sean Payton just adamantly disagreeing with anything that Roger Goodell wants.

1:18:45PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:18:45Doug Pederson:He knows that Goodell wants to ban the tush push. And so Sean Payton's just like, fuck him. I'm the biggest Tush Bush fan there is just because you hate it.

1:18:53PFT Commenter:Yeah. Max, can we have a hard conversation?

1:18:56Doug Pederson:Sure.

1:18:56PFT Commenter:CJ Stroud, hard conversations? Yeah. Can we just have a hard conversation? Are we allowed to have a hard conversation? You can have whatever conversation you want. This is your show. Okay. Last year, you guys won the Super Bowl. Yep. Things went well. 2022, you went to the Super Bowl. Things were great. the middle year you guys won games but things didn't look great i can i have a counterpoint yeah how how did the first four weeks of last year go agreed it was two and two i'm just asking is there a part because the eagles are 30th in total offense 22nd in total defense one in win percentage is there any part of you that's like is this more 2023 than 2024 again i'm not saying I'm just asking that we're doing the hard conversation.

1:19:44Doug Pederson:We've also, the teams that we've played, the record of the teams that we've played are 9-5-1. Agreed. It's been a tough schedule. We have four wins that have come out of it. We had a gutsy comeback win against the Rams. We're beating good teams. We're playing football to win the game. I don't really.

1:20:02PFT Commenter:So the hard conversations, don't give a fuck, wins is all you care about.

1:20:06Doug Pederson:I will give a fuck when we start losing games. Right now we're winning games. I'm not going to be that guy. that gets pre-worried and calls in the 94 WIP and is like, this team fucking sucks. We can't move the football. Our defense isn't as good as everyone says, and you're 4-0. I'm not going to be that guy.

1:20:25PFT Commenter:In defense of that guy, what was your guys? Didn't in 2023 you guys started like 9-1 or something?

1:20:30Doug Pederson:We did.

1:20:31PFT Commenter:Right, and it was kind of similar where it didn't look great, but you were winning. So in defense of that guy. But that also happened last year.

1:20:36Doug Pederson:We were 2-2 and looked like shit to start the year last year. But then you started dominating. So what's to say that we're not going to start dominating again? Fact.

1:20:43PFT Commenter:This is a good hard conversation.

1:20:44Doug Pederson:Especially having a schedule. It's been a really tough schedule to start this year. I'm not going to be upset about winning four football games.

1:20:52PFT Commenter:Winning, would you rather win? Offense looks terrible. Defense looks bad. But you won the game. Or maybe mix in a loss. Offense looks electric. Maybe there was a weird special teams play. Defense looks electric.

1:21:08Doug Pederson:Refs fuck you. Win the football game. Okay, all right. That was a good hard conversation. In an ideal world, perfect world, Max's magic wand, would you like to outgain your opponent this weekend? Sure. Okay. Would you like to be 5 '10"? Yeah, I am. These are hard conversations. I can go out and buy shoes. I can do that tomorrow.

1:21:28PFT Commenter:Listen, I agree with you, Max. Winning is winning. I just was asking the hard conversation question because that is obviously like the Eagles are defending Super Bowl champions. They're 4-0, and the conversation is going to be how it's looked, not the record, which it probably should be more about the record. You are what your record says you are.

1:21:45Doug Pederson:Yeah, and we've been a little banged up. Lane Johnson, like, it is crazy. Like, Lane Johnson goes out, and all of a sudden the offense is just shit every time. He's fully practicing this week. Jalen Carter's fully practicing this week.

1:22:05Doug Pederson:So I'm not going to be upset about being four now. I'm not going to be upset about being four now. Is this Eagles team the worst 20-1 team in their last 21 games of all time? Hard conversation. Sure. I'm okay to say that. Okay. How many teams are 20-1? Not many. There's probably the Patriots. Ohio State?

1:22:24PFT Commenter:No, not even Ohio State. Probably the Dolphins from back in the day.

1:22:30Doug Pederson:Yeah. They probably went 20-1.

1:22:31PFT Commenter:Rodgers and the Packers, remember they had that when they won the Super Bowl? I think they went 15-1 after that. Yeah. I think the Eagles, yeah, they're the worst. Yeah.

1:22:39Doug Pederson:Okay. The Eagles also have that. I have one more thing to say. Let's go back to the hard conversation. The Patriots used to go through this too, is that when a team is really good, people love to find things that make them not good.

1:22:53PFT Commenter:The Chiefs go through it as well. The Chiefs go through it too. It's boring to just be like the Eagles are 4-0. No one can beat them. Naturally, as we watch sports, have to talk about something. So that's what happens.

1:23:06Doug Pederson:Correct. Okay. Now I'm done. Zach, how would you say that hard conversation went?

1:23:10PFT Commenter:I think it went.

1:23:12Doug Pederson:It was a pretty hard convo. Are the – what do we – I know we were saying that when teams are really good, you have to have something to say about them. Do we put the current Eagles in that slot with the Chiefs and the Patriots? Yeah, I think definitely. Literally every negative thing that I've said about the Eagles this year has come from a place of extreme jealousy and also trying to stir Max up. That's fair. Yeah. But, yes, we have to do that. We have to have the hard conversations on this show because if we don't have them, then I don't think anybody's having them out there. The 5 '10". I wish I could take that.

1:23:45Doug Pederson:No, you can't. That was in a hard conversation. I know. You can't take it back. It was a hard conversation to have.

1:23:49PFT Commenter:But the good news is once you exit a hard conversation, it's over.

1:23:53Dan Katz:Yeah, we're good. Between the lines. Yeah, between the lines. Yeah. Yeah.

1:23:57PFT Commenter:To answer your question, Zach, I don't believe that the Eagles are in trouble in any way. It's more that how do you talk about a 4-0 team if their offense hasn't looked electric? That's how you talk about it.

1:24:11Doug Pederson:I got another one that we can do. We can have the is Jalen Hurts elite conversation.

1:24:16PFT Commenter:That's a really hard conversation.

1:24:17Doug Pederson:Because I think that's the next one. Week one, two, and four. I think he's become the new Joe Flacco, where he won a Super Bowl, but everyone's trying to find him. I agree. Is Jalen Hurts elite? Sound off in the comments. Yeah, where do you rank him?

1:24:31PFT Commenter:Where does he rank?

1:24:31Doug Pederson:Good convo, Max. Sound off in the comments. Good hard combo. Jersey swap? Yes, jersey swap. After we're doing that? This is only a triple XL. I don't know if it would fit. I love that. Is that actually a triple XL? I think so.

1:24:44PFT Commenter:It's a great jersey. Thank you. I respect the hell out of it. Thank you. All right, Dolphins and Panthers. Panthers, let's see. Oh, no, they're now underdogs. They're plus one and a half. They started as favorites. Over under is 45 and a half. I had that written down because if they somehow get back to being favorites, the Panthers haven't won a game as a favorite since September of 2021. That's a long time. So who were the quarterbacks in that game? It was Panthers versus Texans. Can you give me the quarterback? Okay, what's the year? 2021. Week three. Week three. TJ Yates. Or week four, I believe.

1:25:21Nope.

1:25:23PFT Commenter:Is it Kyle Allen? Sean Watson. It shocked me. It was Sam Darnold beating Davis Mills. Oh, okay.

1:25:31Doug Pederson:What a matchup.

1:25:32PFT Commenter:What a matchup. So, yeah, the Panthers are now underdogs, so we'll throw that out. But I kind of like the Panthers. I like some shitty teams this week. I like some shitty teams.

1:25:45Doug Pederson:I kind of like the Dolphins, I think. I don't know. I don't know which Dolphins team is going to show up. But I know that the Panthers are capable of being just miserable.

1:25:55PFT Commenter:dog shit but so are the dolphins absolutely so the the one silver lining to the tyreek hill injury thing is uh i i spent some time yesterday just bringing up tyreek hill highlights yeah my

1:26:07Doug Pederson:phone and i've forgotten just how truly dominant he was and how fun he was to watch i saw the one

1:26:13PFT Commenter:did you see the one um i think it was the 13 seconds game against the bills yeah he took that to the house slant to the house and it looked like he was just playing it a totally like it It looked like something fucked up with the TV, and he was just at a different speed than everyone else.

1:26:27Doug Pederson:Yeah, when he hit the peace sign at the 20-yard line. Yeah. Yeah, Tyreek Hill. Do yourself a favor. If you love ball, start bringing up some old Tyreek Hill clips.

1:26:35PFT Commenter:This game's a bummer. It is. I don't really have anything except for this game's a bummer. Also, Tua's been talking about his concussions and how he's changed his diet, so he's in that level of it.

1:26:47Doug Pederson:Oh, he's doing the Russell Wilson thing, the nano bubbles?

1:26:49PFT Commenter:Yeah, he said he, talking about the water, how drinking water helps with concussions, your brain kind of sits in fluids. If I'm not eating carbs, when you drink water, it will kind of flush out of you and you can't stay hydrated. So he's got to eat carbs and drink water to keep the water in his brain in the fluid.

1:27:08Doug Pederson:So he's going to piss his way to a concussion. Correct.

1:27:13PFT Commenter:Okay, yeah. But he's also got to eat the carbs. That sounds awesome. Yeah, actually, every time I eat carbs now, I'm just going to be like, just trying to stay safe about concussions. Just chase it with the water and be like, I'm good. Yeah. Pretty bad slate overall. It's not the best. There's some good games. We're going to play a baseball in there too. But yeah, there's like two, three-ish games that I'm actually excited for. Yeah. The next one is kind of what makes it worse slate is the Texans at the Ravens because Lamar's not playing. So the Texans are one and a half point favorites. at the Ravens, over-unders 43-and-a-half.

1:27:49PFT Commenter:I didn't think that Lamar was going to miss time when he was taken out of that game against the Chiefs because we talked about it on Sunday. They were like, oh, maybe he's not actually hurt. He is hurt, and I think the Ravens are absolutely frontrunners for a year from hell team.

1:28:02Doug Pederson:So they're saying two to three weeks with a hamstring injury. Yes. Yeah, hand up. I might have been wrong about that one when I said they were just taking him out of the game because it was out of hand and they were embellishing the injury report. But that's not going to stop me from speculating on it. You know when announcers say, like, I hate to speculate on an injury, but, and then they always say the injury that they're speculating. I kind of love speculating on injuries. I do too. It's one of my favorite things to do. Absolutely. Unless it's my quarterback, in which case that's HIPAA. But if it's anybody else's, yeah, I'm going to speculate.

1:28:32PFT Commenter:Yeah. This is, so, after the Lamar Jackson news, the Ravens were nine and a half point favorites, I think, opened, and then it's all the way to their one and a half point dogs. This is the ass versus ass pool. Yeah. Well, no. Ready for this?

1:28:45Doug Pederson:The Titans. The Titans. No, no.

1:28:46PFT Commenter:Yes. No, no. All right. So I should say specific units, ass for sass. Okay. So the Texans' offense is 29th in the NFL in points per game. The Ravens are third. And the Texans' defense is first in points per game. And the Ravens' defense is 32nd. So ass for sass.

1:29:06Doug Pederson:Ass to ass. This is the Requiem for a Dream Bowl.

1:29:08PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. So the Texans have a great defense. Obviously, Cooper Rush now changes everything. And Texans have a great defense. Ravens have a great offense. But then you flip it around, the defense. Yeah, it's just ass versus ass.

1:29:22Doug Pederson:And now Cooper Rush makes it ass. But wait, wait. With Cooper Rush, maybe we should respect Cooper Rush a little bit more. You know what his starting record is? Yeah. For the Cowboys?

1:29:30PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:29:30Doug Pederson:He's 9-5 as a starter. Okay. So, yeah. We might have to slow down on the ass. I mean, Lamar Jackson, he's got badass. We know that. But Cooper Rush, maybe a top-tier backup. Maybe it's up to your back. But the offense is going to look like... Spin zone, actually, if you got Cooper Rush starting, you're going to hand the ball to Derrick Henry. Yeah. You're going to run the damn ball. Especially because he had eight carries last week. He had eight carries. I saw a very funny video. Did you see this of Dan Orlovsky? No. Talking about the Ravens offense.

1:30:03PFT Commenter:Okay.

1:30:04Doug Pederson:It looked like he was going to break down and cry because he realized how little the Ravens are using Derrick Henry on first and second down. Oh, no. He was like, I saw that. I could not believe this. I needed to tell somebody he was freaking out. The usage rate is very, very low for Derrick Henry. I think having Cooper Rush. Simplify this. Simplifies a little bit. Give Derrick Henry the football.

1:30:23PFT Commenter:The Ravens are 4-10 without Lamar since 2019. Is many hard conversation. Is John Harbaugh a little bit on the hot seat?

1:30:32Doug Pederson:Semi-limp conversation? No.

1:30:36PFT Commenter:I don't think he is, but Ravens fans feel like there's... I've seen a couple people be like, let John Harbaugh go in the front office, find someone new.

1:30:48Doug Pederson:I think you can season from hell your way out of that. Yeah. Out of a hot seat conversation. I think, is it Dean Pease that everyone's mad at?

1:30:55PFT Commenter:I think so.

1:30:56Doug Pederson:Yeah, Dean Pease hot seat. But I don't think, no, I don't think. I know that Ravens fans get upset because when you have a great team and you don't win a Super Bowl, then you just start taking it out on your coach. Like, there's something wrong with this guy. And yeah, he's had some brain farts in the past. but I don't I would not I think that he would be hired like the next day as a head coach yeah

1:31:16PFT Commenter:um CJ Stroud had some weird quotes he said uh he said on his explosiveness trying to improve his explosiveness being 23 I'm not fully in my grown man body all the way yet I'm still growing that's true and then he said I feel like I'm getting old I'm not as quick as I used to be I was watching my high school stuff a couple days ago and I was like 180 and I was rolling

1:31:38Doug Pederson:so wait those kind of contradictory those two things don't make a lot of sense at the same time he's not he's not done growing which means that he's going to get worse he's going to get fatter and worse yeah i think that it actually does make sense he's like i'm not done growing i'm going to continue to get worse that's the only way that quote yeah quotes make sense together

1:31:56PFT Commenter:yeah i don't know why it's kind of a bummer if he was if cj stride was watching his high school highlights he's probably not in a great mental space that was going to be my follow-up like

1:32:07Doug Pederson:Like, if you're going home and you're pulling up huddle. Yeah. It's like Gordon Bombay learning how to rollerblade again, being like, now I love hockey.

1:32:14PFT Commenter:Like, damn, I used to be fucking awesome.

1:32:17Doug Pederson:I used to be a beast at this. Look, maybe one day I can be good again, too. Have you been watching the clips of the Texans' offensive line? I have not. Some of the blocking that they did last week? Is it really bad? You know the one sack that they had where C.J. Stroud got sacked on, like, his half step back? Yep. Like, got sacked immediately? Go watch that again because the offensive line just opens up for the pass rusher. CJ gets sacked after a step, and then all five offensive linemen converge on one guy, and five linemen are blocking one guy to finish the play. It's maybe the worst clip that I've ever seen for an offensive line.

1:32:53PFT Commenter:Oof. Oof. Yeah, it's their offensive line. They're a bummer team, but they can win this game. And if they win this game, they're 2-3. This is actually I know we had this last week The Chiefs and the Ravens Loser leaves town This is a true loser leaves town Because one in four is tonso

1:33:10Doug Pederson:Yeah Woody Marks game maybe Maybe He's electric He is electric Yeah And Joe Mixon Is he okay? Has anybody seen Joe Mixon?

1:33:21PFT Commenter:No

1:33:21Doug Pederson:We put him on a milk crate

1:33:24PFT Commenter:Titans and Cardinals Another gross one I don't really I don't want to watch it I'm gonna watch it I'd prefer not to

1:33:35Doug Pederson:I think Cam Ward needs more weapons I think that the Titans should trade for A.J. Brown He's not happy in Philly Max? There's a 0 % chance the Eagles trade A.J. Brown The cap hit is like insane I know, but you know Everyone keeps saying that I just know cap guys that say that We should actually make you But everyone talks about it

1:34:00PFT Commenter:We should make you our cap expert

1:34:01Doug Pederson:I can't even say words. How could I do math?

1:34:05PFT Commenter:It would be awesome if we were just like, and we're going to go to our cap expert. Max, break down the contract for us. How long would it take you to become a cap expert?

1:34:14Doug Pederson:I would have to take like a full, actually, I'm not even going to tell you what I was going to say because you'd make me do it.

1:34:19PFT Commenter:No, let's, all right.

1:34:20Doug Pederson:I would have to take like a full college, like three credit college course to get like the base understanding of the cap.

1:34:26PFT Commenter:If there's an AWL who worked in an NFL front office or works or has worked in an NFL front office who understands the cap really well, I would love to hire your services to teach Max to become our cap expert.

1:34:41Doug Pederson:That would actually be a great PMTV. It would be a great PMTV. If a cap guy came in and just did a whiteboard lesson, we should try and find a cap guy. Let's do it.

1:34:49PFT Commenter:I bet Howie might have a guy that could hook you up. We just need Max the cap expert. Yeah. And we get you like a, we maybe get you like a tuxedo shirt. We go to your, you know, or like some kind of like clip on tie. I like that. You put on the clip on tie. A clip on tie would be good.

1:35:06Doug Pederson:And like a pen. The clip on tie and then the green translucent visor that accountant's wear. Yeah. Yeah. That's the cap expert load. I like that.

1:35:14PFT Commenter:That's the accountant slash Asian women on a golf course.

1:35:18Doug Pederson:Yeah. That one. But Max, I'm just saying, it'd be very funny if like how he got back every pick that he He traded for A.J. Brown from the Titans and just sent him back to Tennessee. Yeah. That would be Howie-esque. That would be very Howie-esque. But it's impossible.

1:35:33PFT Commenter:Brian Callahan was like, yeah, hey, Cam Ward's got to probably use his words differently. When he, the whole quote of keep it a buck, we're ass. I disagree. Yeah, I think he actually was perfect with that. Also, kind of a weird quote from Kyler Murray. He was asked about the new training facility. in 2028 and he said it's beautiful i hope i'm here to see it yeah like like uh in terms of being

1:36:03Doug Pederson:alive i don't know and that would be very dark yeah that'd be very dark if that's the way well he's been going dark recently he has the mike vick jersey yep that's yeah like if you do a gender reveal wearing a ray caruth shirt yep uh kyler murray's in a bad place i think i think it's is all bad vibes for the car even though yeah they they fought back on thursday night football they were probably really pumped to have a mini by not hang out with each other yeah big time

1:36:27PFT Commenter:big time uh this game is yeah it's gonna be uh it's gonna be interesting i i do have my touch can i reveal my touchdown pick from because who is out hank you're out i lost it's me max and pft i think i'm gonna go trey benson you guys like that at all did you guys both win no i i've been

1:36:44Doug Pederson:out max and pft one yeah i did not win actually but you had i had i devontae adams scored but we

1:36:52PFT Commenter:had the backup yeah yeah i have a question for you the backup didn't score you want back in you can go back in i was three for four all right so you're back in so it'll be me it'll be me i'm just saying hey the big three will keep our chemologists out of it i was yeah i was two for i was two for three on the three picks that i had what's a better percentage max and tucker craft also got

1:37:13Doug Pederson:fucked twice out of not scoring in that Sunday night game.

1:37:15PFT Commenter:What's a better percentage, two for three or three for four?

1:37:18Doug Pederson:Three for four is better.

1:37:19PFT Commenter:That was quick. Okay. He's got it.

1:37:23Doug Pederson:But what about Tucker Craft getting fucked twice out of a touchdown in Sunday night football?

1:37:27PFT Commenter:Yeah. What's better, scoring a touchdown or getting fucked twice out of a touchdown?

1:37:32Doug Pederson:It is fun to talk about getting fucked twice out of scoring a touchdown.

1:37:36PFT Commenter:Okay. Is that your final answer? No. Okay. Scoring is better. Okay. This guy is smart. He's sharp.

1:37:41Doug Pederson:But, again, I have a question for you. Yeah. Because I've been thinking more about the Cardinals and the body language. I think they –

1:37:46PFT Commenter:First of all, let me just stop you. I'm sorry.

1:37:48Doug Pederson:Yeah. No. It's bad. I've been thinking about the Cardinals? And their body language. They're the worst body language team in the NFL. By far. And they're, I think, leading the way, Kyler Murray, bad body language. Marvin Harrison Jr., bad body language, especially on Thursday night. After so many of those plays where either Kyler threw the wrong pass or Marvin Harrison Jr. ran the wrong route, after all those they go to the sidelines and they don't talk to each other they just kind of both stare ahead they do parallel play where they do the same activity yeah but they don't interact with you would think that at some point you would discuss who did something wrong right in that in that circumstance and try to fix it right oh right like if we did a podcast and we both did an ad read at the same time and you did an ad read for better help i did an ad read for roman swipes and we said them at the at some point we would be like hey here's where we messed up yeah we should we should

1:38:42PFT Commenter:talk about this let's look at the tape let's get on the same page you're analyzing the louisville

1:38:46Doug Pederson:cardinals game i'm analyzing the arizona cardinals game at the same time yes at some point hank should pull us aside as a producer and be like you guys need to talk this out yeah because there's something going wrong why aren't they these are all fair points you're making why aren't they doing why don't you talk about what happened i don't know why are you just going to the sidelines and being like this sucks because it does suck it sucks big time they know that it sucks the next step is figuring out why it sucks yeah and then after that it's not having it suck again it's

1:39:15PFT Commenter:major suck and they probably should be like hey this sucks how can we get it to suck less i think

1:39:21Doug Pederson:the answer to that question is maybe playing against the titans that would be a good one

1:39:25PFT Commenter:maybe that's all they said maybe that's why they they look like they're on the the wrong page because the entire time through the first four weeks of the season they're like just wait we'll play the titans eventually yeah it's like thinking about a vacation you got coming up yeah we're gonna do this uh little plus side for anyone who's worried about marvin harrison uh junior if you're a cardinals fan out there uh marvin harrison junior and marvin harrison through the exact same part of their career marvin harrison 1062 yards so this is one year in four games marvin harrison 1062 yards nine touchdowns marvin harrison jr 1093 yards 10 touchdowns now you could maybe say that one played in the 90s to start his career i would say that but we could also just pretend that they're exactly the same and he's actually better than his father

1:40:14Doug Pederson:how many drops did marvin harrison senior have i don't know through those games i don't know was peyton manning his starting quarterback not right away so that's the other thing okay well i was trying to help i was trying to do something nice for cardinals fans i was trying to do

1:40:27PFT Commenter:something nice for Cardinals fans I apologize I am on uh on tackle breaking watch this week

1:40:33Doug Pederson:I think this is the week that Marvin Harrison Jr. breaks his first tackle yeah yeah I I I'm gonna

1:40:39PFT Commenter:I wish we could bet on that oh wait Trey Benson's on IR so I'm out okay it's a good thought it's a great thought oh I forgot he's here yesterday uh I think that should just eliminate me and you guys should just run it back to three of you. I mean, you can't say someone No, no, no. You gotta be in it. I like the fucking touchdown guy and he went on IR yesterday. You can't do that. The cat's kind of hot right now.

1:41:07Doug Pederson:I am. You gotta be in it. You're the hottest you've ever been. I'm out. I'll find a new one. I'll find a new one. Did you know that the Titans have been outscored 120-51 this year? And that every week they get beat by more and more points?

1:41:20PFT Commenter:And it always goes the same way where it's like the game starts and they actually are in it a little bit and then they just completely fall apart. Yeah. Alright. Bucs at Seahawks. This is a good game. This is also an awesome awesome uniform matchup. So we got the Bucs, Seahawks. Seahawks minus 3.5 over under 44.5. The Seahawks are wearing their throwbacks. The Bucs are wearing their white cream skulls. This rocks.

1:41:47Doug Pederson:Yes, I'm very excited. But we're running into a conflict. Is the NFL truly king? Why? Because we got a conflict with potentially a baseball game oh the mariners yeah yeah it'd be game two okay and so they might delay the game it might not start at what that would be a 3 p.m central time

1:42:05PFT Commenter:uh yeah 3 p.m central time i believe it is 1 p.m local so we might yeah we might not get

1:42:13Doug Pederson:any break at all between the end of the afternoon games and sunday night football it might just go straight through okay oh they're gonna move the kickoff time they might move the kickoff time because of the traffic later because the traffic ah yeah I think they'd move it late I think they would delay it but they should just delay the baseball yeah that would make more sense yeah baseball should just play at night yeah agreed

1:42:38PFT Commenter:come on baseball I thought yeah I thought

1:42:40Doug Pederson:MLB yeah NFL should be like hey play your game at night buddy yeah uh This is a homecoming. Wait, the baseball is playing at night. Oh, they are. 8 o 'clock. 8 o 'clock Eastern. Oh, so they're good. What would that be?

1:42:53PFT Commenter:8 o 'clock Eastern, 7 o 'clock. Yeah, so that will be right when the Seahawks game is ending. Like an hour later, the Mariners game will start.

1:43:02Doug Pederson:But I think that's why they're thinking about delaying it. Got it. Because of the traffic. Or maybe moving it up. I don't think you can move it up, can you?

1:43:08PFT Commenter:I don't know. Figure it out, baseball. It's your job. You should still just delay the baseball. Yeah, it's your job, baseball, to figure it out. We don't move NFL games. That's true. I like the Seahawks. I don't know. Abuka homecoming. He's from the Seattle area. Okay, that's important. Mom rented out a large section for the game. Also, very funny exchange in media this week. A reporter asked Baker Mayfield if he reminisces at all with Sam Darnold about the good old days in Carolina. And he replied, reminisce about what days? and the reporter said the good old days in Carolina and he just said oh no we don't

1:43:51Doug Pederson:they're gonna be doing the Paul Rudd thing look at us what a thought yeah now hey this is actually

1:43:56PFT Commenter:the PMT Bowl yeah we have the clip from this five years ago where we both I think you were Baker I was Sam Darnold was like we're not done believing in these guys I was never done believing in Baker

1:44:06Doug Pederson:no I thought that I thought the Browns were insane yeah think about getting rid of Baker What are you going to say, Max? I'm still thinking about the baseball, football thing. I think I found a solution.

1:44:15PFT Commenter:You're our capologist, not our time.

1:44:16Doug Pederson:No, no, no, no. I think you're going to like this idea. This is Max in the sky, the traffic chopper. I think this is a great idea. I think this is a great idea.

1:44:26Doug Pederson:Seattle should sell dual tickets. Yes. So you buy a ticket and it gets you access to the Seahawks. Wait, is their stadiums close to each other? Yeah. That's the problem is the traffic. No, but then that takes away the traffic. because everyone is there, and they go to the Seahawks game, and then you just go to the baseball game, and you just have the greatest day ever as a Seattle sports fan. We're thinking about mega ticket. Mega ticket. The mega ticket. It's got to be big, too. They've got to make it oversized. Yeah, what about the capacity, though? Make it work. Standing room only.

1:44:56PFT Commenter:Yeah, make it work. Yeah, make it work, dude. Standing room only. Listen, we're the ideas guys, not the execution guys. Yep. Mega ticket. Make it work. Mega ticket. Mega ticket. Mega ticket.

1:45:06Doug Pederson:Are the Huskies playing at home on Saturday?

1:45:08PFT Commenter:No, they're actually playing in Maryland. Oh, okay. Yeah, Washington AD complained about scheduling and how it's unfair for Washington after two years ago, Washington begged to be in the Big Ten. Classic Big Ten matchup. Yeah. Yeah, Washington versus Maryland. Okay, Lions at Bengals. Bengals are 10.5 point underdogs, and the over-under is 44.5. Boys, this is actually, I was kind of shocked, want to feel old. this is jared goff's 70th start for the lions he had 69 starts for the rams now more a lion than a

1:45:46Doug Pederson:ram that's interesting yeah cool that is very cool yeah he's been great yeah also the lions have been

1:45:51PFT Commenter:great uh against the spread especially which is i saw this and it's shocking the lions in the last 20 games are 14 and 5 and 1 against the spread the lions in the last 29 games are 21 and 7 and one against the spread the lions in the last 52 games are 38 13 and one against the spread why are we not just betting the lions every week yeah we should do that that's an incredible return on investment bet the lions just bet them it doesn't matter the spread fade the titans yeah at the

1:46:21Doug Pederson:lions you'd be making a good amount of money it's crazy yeah i i've got a crazy stat about the lions okay so going into the season the big things that we talked about were uh they're losing their coordinators how's that going to work out for them and then the offensive line because they lost starters on the offensive line that have been dominant yep in years past so the detroit lions offensive line is the first offensive line since since sacks were first recorded yeah all the way back in 1982 to not give up a sack in three straight games yeah yeah pretty

1:46:55PFT Commenter:impressive yeah they're awesome they're very good they're very very good and the bangles are a bummer big time this is yeah we need it the league has to step in about the quarterback situation because i know that we we had the what is it like two years ago three years ago where we had a bunch of backup quarterbacks and they're like you know what we'll add an emergency quarterback teams can carry three yeah zach taylor refusing to look for another quarterback like just jamis i mean it's

1:47:22Doug Pederson:not zach taylor i know it's not that's why we need to go fund me and we like billionaires but

1:47:27PFT Commenter:he's got to play better listen billionaires need charity too did you see i i saw a screenshot uh screenshot season for bangles fans it was brutal it was a screenshot of a three-man rush from the broncos on monday night football where both tackles got beat so jake browning's holding the ball both edge rushers are about to sack him and then the nose tackle has four people blocking him yeah that's it right there yeah look at that that's brutal i know sackle's not going anywhere though because i got him fucking wrapped up look at that yeah four on one i do think to myself like

1:48:07Doug Pederson:it doesn't matter who you put back there quarterback right now yeah but joe burrow made it look serviceable he did he made it look okay this is an unbelievable screenshot i mean

1:48:17PFT Commenter:but hey if you want to look at positives they have that fucking uh defensive tackle in a fucking torture change. He's locked up. He is so locked up.

1:48:27Doug Pederson:Max, pull up that Titans Texans sack. We can have a screenshot off because I think that...

1:48:32PFT Commenter:Are you talking about the Jeffrey Simmons sack?

1:48:34Doug Pederson:Yeah. The sack of the year nominee? Yeah, they're both really, really bad.

1:48:38PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:48:40Doug Pederson:I think this is it. Watch the Texans offensive line on this. Okay.

1:48:47PFT Commenter:Watching. This is us breaking down film. Yeah. They just... Let it run. They...

1:48:53Doug Pederson:and oh yeah they got six guys no they got five yeah they got five guys on number 97 that guy i don't know i could i could see that guy wiggling his way out i think the bangles had better grouping with their four yeah like had that one dude surrounded i like these sacks because you

1:49:10PFT Commenter:know there's been a and i believe it because i don't know football at this high level uh there's been a lot of discourse about how a lot of sacks are the quarterback's fault yeah you know what i mean like it's it's them uh holding on to the ball or running in a direction that the protection isn't uh and there's been a lot of like talk about hey you can't just say every sack is an offensive line fault these ones are just classic yeah classic it's good to know that sometimes

1:49:37Doug Pederson:it's like yeah the o-line sucks yeah the o-line just doesn't know what they're doing uh okay we have uh would it be funny speaking of uh the a.j brown trade scenarios yep a.j brown trade to the bangles would be very funny it would be like the bangles going all in on on the meme of uh like burrow anyone jamar chase or burrow uh panay seoul anyone yeah that he's thrown to where it's just anyone as the quarterback anyone as the offensive line and then wide receivers jamar chase and aj brown yeah higgins yeah just like go all in if you have great enough wide receivers you can win everything nothing else matters yeah uh all right last afternoon game commanders at

1:50:16PFT Commenter:Chargers. Chargers are two and a half point favorites over under 47 and a half. Jay Daniels back? Back. Back.

1:50:24Doug Pederson:Back. How excited are you? Very excited. This is a must win decisively game. Whoa. I think we can win this game decisively. And you must do it. I mean we must do it to show that. Alt spread? Yeah. Yeah maybe. Two and a half point dogs if you think you're going to win decisively. Money line. But that's not

1:50:44Dan Katz:you said decisively.

1:50:45Doug Pederson:You said alt spread. Money line would be an alt spread. No, money line's money line. Money line. No, I'm saying you should take... You're saying going Commanders minus six and a half. Commanders minus six and a half. Yeah. You should take that. I'm in. I'm in on it. I might have to ride. I think we had a really, really bad week of defense last week. We had to do something different. I trust in Dan Quinn. Dan's going to get it figured out.

1:51:09PFT Commenter:Yeah, I think it's going to be interesting because you guys had a bad week of defense stopping the run and the Chargers had a bad week of offense having any type of balance in terms of running the football and they've got Joe out he's out yep so but it feels like the Chargers are going to try to establish a run more with a banged up offensive line against the commander's defense that has to figure out if they can stop the run yeah so interesting matchup there yeah it's like

1:51:33Doug Pederson:yeah weakness versus maybe weakness but what uh so how are you feeling so Terry McLaurin out out. I haven't heard anything to the contrary, so I'm assuming he's going to be out this week. Debo Samuel didn't practice? Debo, he's going to be fine. Okay, Noah Brown? I'm not worried about Debo. I don't know that Noah Brown still plays football anymore. He's just kind of always hurt. But Jalen Lane looks pretty good, and then obviously the thing everyone's talking about, the unlocking of Luke McCaffrey. That's going to continue. He's been fully unlocked. This is going to be another Luke game. That jersey's sick, by the way.

1:52:02Doug Pederson:Thank you. Thank you. It is nice. Zach was just saying the Arctic camo. fantastic digital camo in that jersey pft i appreciate that it is incredible incredible jersey i might be the only person on earth who will ever own this jersey yeah because he changed he changed his number so now he's 11 oh he was 12 you know what if i if luke goes off this weekend like i think he's about to go off i might just send this jersey to the hall of fame yeah like what three catches 40 42 yards that sounds like touchdown sounds like he's hating he's been yeah No, you're on the list. You're on the list. Fine. You're on the list.

1:52:37Doug Pederson:The Luke McCaffrey hate list. No, what does Luke McCaffrey going off look like realistically? Well, he had a touchdown last week. Yep. No, I'm saying give me a Luke McCaffrey went off stat sheet. Okay. Luke McCaffrey went off on kick returns. He broke one like 45 yards. How do you like that? Sneaky commanders have been like the best kickoff coverage and kickoff return team in the league. They've been awesome at it. Nick Ballore. Yeah, that's true. I'd say he breaks one for 45 yards. How about that? Another for 30. How about that? Flips the field position on the kickoff. You like this? And then he catches four passes, 73 yards.

1:53:17Oh, yeah.

1:53:18Doug Pederson:A touchdown. And has a key block on another touchdown. Yeah, that's a career day. Key block. Luke's about to go off.

1:53:28PFT Commenter:The last time these guys faced off, remember, It was Oregon and Justin Herbert going into the desert, and their national title aspirations blew up in their face. Jaden Daniels and the Arizona State Sun Devils beat the Oregon Ducks 31-28. Oregon was ranked 6.

1:53:46Doug Pederson:Jaden Daniels, I saw the highlights. Someone posted the highlights of that game, and it was just Jaden throwing bombs.

1:53:53PFT Commenter:Yes, he had 400 yards passing, and Arizona State was 5-5 going to that game. The Ducks were 9-1.

1:54:01Doug Pederson:um so yeah can i get into the trust tree with you guys yeah okay so no one's allowed to clip this no one's allowed to transcribe it whatsoever i i need to see some downfield passing from jayden because that's what's that's what's missing uh last year he was like amazing at hitting terry mclaurin in stride he you were able to take the top off the defense and have these big explosive plays we haven't seen any of that this year yeah which is unfortunate if the offense continues to struggle in that element, I was thinking about the S word. Slump? I'm not going to say which S word. Sophomore? It's a double S word.

1:54:42Doug Pederson:Sophomore slump? Super, super. Jaden, he's really good. Jaden's awesome. He's going to be fine. I would start to worry if we're not able to hit some big shots.

1:54:52PFT Commenter:I feel like sophomore slump, you've got to give, it's got to be like halfway through the season. Yeah, but I'm officially declared a sophomore slot.

1:55:00Doug Pederson:It's not Virginia. He's been hurt the last two weeks. He played the Packers defense, which was awesome on that Thursday night. He did good against the Giants in week one. So there's a very small sample size. I would just like to see something downfield happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because like dinking and dunking your way down the field, it can work, but then some drives stall out. I would like to see the offense look a little bit closer to what it was last year when every time it was third down or fourth down. We didn't punt. We didn't punt for like two games last year. I want to see that.

1:55:30PFT Commenter:Can I give you some potential copium that you could have for later put in your back pocket?

1:55:35Doug Pederson:I'm not worried for the record.

1:55:36PFT Commenter:I know. And this was trusty. I know. It's trusty, but I'm giving you some potential copium. Yeah. It could. You just blame Cliff Kingsbury. That's true. Because he is really good at the beginning and then fades. Yeah, but that didn't happen last year. Right, but all of last year was the beginning.

1:55:53Doug Pederson:Yeah. And now people have figured it out. This is year two is actually the new October. Correct. Okay.

1:55:59PFT Commenter:I'm just giving you again. You don't have to do this, but like this is a conversation for farther down the line. But if you need to, you could just hit the Cliff Kingsbury sucks button.

1:56:09Doug Pederson:Okay. I can do that. I can hit that button for sure. Yeah. I like the running game. We're running the ball really well. Let's continue to do that. But I would like to see some deep shots that connect. That would get me back to having a full boner.

1:56:21PFT Commenter:Yeah. Okay. Last game. Patriots at Bills. Hank. Bills minus 8.5 over under is 49.5 right now. The Bills are wearing their all whites. White out.

1:56:36Doug Pederson:We are.

1:56:37PFT Commenter:Okay. Josh Allen's 10-2 on Sunday Night Football. How are you feeling, Hank?

1:56:43Doug Pederson:I'm excited. I'm really excited. I think this game is going to be a shootout. I think it's going to, you know, Patriots are going to have to get a little bit lucky, but it's going to be a good test. I also think this is, you know, we're thinking playoffs. We're thinking about making a run, which we are. This is a team you're going to have to beat in the playoffs. So even if we don't win, if we can keep it close and get a taste of, like, we should have won and be able to use that for the rest of the season so that when we play them in the playoffs we can get revenge, like, that's okay too. Just got to keep it closed.

1:57:13Doug Pederson:A must cover. A must keep it closed. Ideally one score, yeah. But wait, I thought earlier in the week you were more optimistic. I am optimistic no matter what, but I'm already, like, pre a loss. It's not a must win. A loss is not going to derail the season. A blowout might. I'll say that. A blowout could derail the season. But we just need a taste.

1:57:33PFT Commenter:You need a taste of competing with the Bills.

1:57:36Doug Pederson:Yeah.

1:57:36PFT Commenter:Okay. Halftime? Halftime lead?

1:57:39Doug Pederson:Better, yeah. Yeah. Okay. We got to be within one score in the fourth quarter. Yeah. This is the week for Drake. I agree. I mean, every week so far has been the week. No, no. The sophomore, the double S word you just talked about, Jaden, has been nowhere even close with Drake May. He's had four weeks of it being the week. I think this is the week that Drake May finally beats a team that's above 500. I think this is the week that it happens. Hank, I'm pulling for you. I knew it was coming. That was good. That was good, P.S.T. That was good. That was good. There's a lot of questions. Drake May's look promising.

1:58:15Doug Pederson:We were just waiting for it. He delivered. He's building up, and he's done a great job getting to this place. I think he's ready. he's put in the prep. This is the week where Drake May beats a winning team.

1:58:26PFT Commenter:You knew it was coming. I didn't know that stat.

1:58:30Doug Pederson:Gotta check that off the list. And this is a big one to check off. What a payoff. Great delivery, too. Great delivery.

1:58:38PFT Commenter:Now he's scrambling. It also didn't hit Hank right away. It took a second.

1:58:44Dan Katz:He thought he was actually doing a compliment.

1:58:47Doug Pederson:He thought he actually believed that Drake May was going to win this game. I double-flipped him. At first, he was like, he's going to insult me. And then when I said, he's like, oh, he's complimenting me. And then afterwards, he's like, oh, fuck, I got insulted. That's all right. That was good. That was good. Are you looking it up? What have you found? What have you found? Doing some research. Share with the class. What teams has Drake May beaten? I'm doing some research. Okay.

1:59:08PFT Commenter:Yeah, share with us. Dolphins?

1:59:15PFT Commenter:This year? Panther? Titans? Titans last year?

1:59:20Doug Pederson:No, we lost the Titans last year. Oh, no. They have a winning record. Yeah. Who'd you beat last year? Memes is saying back here he also has an anti-Patriot stat. Oh. But he doesn't want to share with the class. Why memes? Nightshare. What about when we beat the Bills last year?

1:59:38PFT Commenter:What? You beat the Bills last year?

1:59:41Doug Pederson:Joe Milton beat the Bills. Oh, Joe Milton beat the Bills. That was Joe Milton.

1:59:45PFT Commenter:Oh, no. Oh, no, Hank. This is a Joe Bills. That's a double winner for PFT.

1:59:54Doug Pederson:And then they ran him out of town. Oh, no, Hank. Tough. That's a tough, tough double trap. Yeah, I agree. I agree with PFT. This is the week. It's got to be. Got to be.

2:00:06PFT Commenter:Yeah, Joe Milton threw for 241 yards against the Bills last year.

2:00:10Doug Pederson:Because, Hank, if he doesn't, then after this week, people are going to start to have that conversation and bring that stat up. They haven't done it yet. I haven't heard anybody mention that stat. But if he loses this weekend, then we're going to look at the graphs. Oh, that was the fucking game we were supposed to lose. Beat a good team. Yeah.

2:00:27PFT Commenter:And he's just staring at the schedule from last year.

2:00:29Doug Pederson:No, that's fine. Listen, you can only play the teams that are in front of you. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. But you can win those games. Yeah, that was a bad comeback. It's not like he hasn't played teams above 500. He's done a great job of playing the games that are in front of him. Yeah. When you line him up, he's playing. listen i agree with pft this week is the week uh are you concerned that people will start talking about that after this weekend not yet but after sunday or after the show comes out no i'm not concerned about it i mean the because i think this is the week what are the steelers three and one

2:01:03PFT Commenter:two and two uh the steelers are three and one okay so that would be the only team that we could have

2:01:08Doug Pederson:even well last year too yeah last year but he was a rookie uh but yeah listen i'm not worried about But this is a passing the torch game. I think the Patriots are going to win. I think they're going to keep it competitive. I think it's going to be a shootout. Bills have better players. They've been doing it longer, but I think it's going to be an exciting Sunday night. I love the Patriots team total over. I love the regular over. Same. Do you love the Bills jerseys? The whiteout? Yeah, I mean, the whiteouts, hopefully they can continue to lose while I watch them. Yeah. home team is 0-1 in whiteout games that Hank has watched in the last one yeah yeah okay fantasy

2:01:51PFT Commenter:minute time with Jerry O 'Connell so I as tradition every single week I make sure I do not watch it before we go live here so we can all experience Jerry at the same time I'm looking at the picture of him right now he looks incredible Jerry new look new look he's got a goatee slick back hair

2:02:12Doug Pederson:Yeah. He's got the shades. He's wearing a swimsuit in the pool. I wonder if Rebecca's going to be with him in the pool. Mm-hmm. That's interesting. It is interesting. That's interesting.

2:02:20PFT Commenter:All right. So Jerry said that we have to play the last 14 seconds, but it's a minute and 14. I said, Jerry, you know the rules. It's one minute long. We play one minute, and that's all you get. So we're going to have to cut out some point in the middle. I vote that we stop 46 to one minute. Well, here's what Jerry has countered with. He said that he would like to basically loan 14 seconds from next week's. I don't know. You need a minute. Then he's doing less work. He said he wants to do. He promises that next week he will only give us 46 seconds. Give him a cookie. Give him a cookie.

2:03:08Doug Pederson:14 seconds from this week. Okay. Zero chance that he comes in at 46 seconds next week. He's going to end up just leveraging everything to one second. All right. You guys are tougher parents than I am.

2:03:17PFT Commenter:All right. So let's play it. I say we play it and stop it when we think we can start cutting.

2:03:22Doug Pederson:Well, it's knowing we have to say it seems like the last 14 seconds are important.

2:03:26PFT Commenter:Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Right. So I'm saying like, let's watch. And then maybe when we feel like, all right, we know Jerry very well. You've got to assume he's wasting at least 10 seconds off the top.

2:03:38Doug Pederson:Yeah, I think to start at 14 seconds, that's what I was going to say. It's definitely some bullshit. Hey, guys, what's up? Mr. Bang Bang, I'm in a pool, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah. You've got to have the exposition at the start. You do. And also, we've wasted probably like seven minutes talking about what part of his minute we're going to cut.

2:03:55PFT Commenter:You know what? That doesn't matter. It's not wasted. It's our time. Yeah. Okay. So let's play it, and let's all just agree to stop it, and then we'll cut out 14 seconds? Yeah. Okay. who's going to be the one to click stop i'll say stop okay okay you're everyone ready yes

2:04:14PFT Commenter:Hey, what's up? Oh, sorry. Start the music memes. Start the music memes. Go. Hey, what's up? Hank was right. Fantasy Fuck Boys here. Hope everybody got Jackson Dart this week. Got to time myself. Yeah, also pick up Harry Fannin. I think we're stopping now. Yeah, yeah. Go, stop. Hanky. All right.

2:04:38Doug Pederson:Oh, wait. I want to hear what you say about Hank. That was a fake stop.

2:04:41PFT Commenter:He blew it. Actually, Harold Panna didn't blow it. I saw a picture of Tiffany Gomez. She went to the Cowboys game. Beautiful young lady. Stop. All right.

2:04:53Doug Pederson:This next 14 seconds is going to be, he's going to say two players' names, and then he's going to be, Mr.

2:04:59PFT Commenter:Bing Bong. All right, so go to 46 seconds. We're cutting out 32 to 46. Okay. All right. Here we go. All right. We're back. is everyone's dropping them because it's a bye week and they're the number one defense. But yeah, that's about it. That's all I got. Still got a couple seconds. Congratulations, Big Cat. I'm winning the 50-50. Go buy the rights to Electric Avenue. Do something good with that money. You can stop gambling now. I'll call 1-800-GAMBLER if you got a problem. You got a problem, 1-800-GAMBLER.

2:05:40Doug Pederson:All right. All right. So that was the last 14 seconds he wanted. So what did we learn this week? Jackson Dart is the quarterback of the Giants. Yep. There's a defense you should sit. Fannin did not blow it. Yep. But Hanky did.

2:05:53PFT Commenter:Tiffany Gomez at the Cowboys game. Look great. Look great. We need to buy electric avenue. There we go. All right. Thank you, Jerry. Great fantasy minute. And now let's do our TD parlay and our picks. So let's start with our TD parlay. I'm out. Trey Benson. No, you're in.

2:06:13Doug Pederson:You're in.

2:06:14PFT Commenter:I'm in.

2:06:14Doug Pederson:You're in.

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2:06:49PFT Commenter:Testimonials not representative of the experience of all customers and not guarantees a future performance or success. Investment advisory products and services offered by Acorns Advisors, LLC and SE registered investment advisor. Okay, let's do our TDs real quick. So is it me, Hank and PFT? Yep. Okay. All right, Hank. I'm going with Amon Ra St. Brown. Amon Ra St. Brown. Minus 105. Afternoon games, Amon Ra St. Brown. Okay. PFT.

2:07:16Doug Pederson:I'm going to go. I'm not seeing his name up here on the list, actually.

2:07:22PFT Commenter:Amon Ra is Hank's pick.

2:07:24Doug Pederson:I'm not seeing my guys. I'm not seeing any touchdowns listed for the Commander's Chargers game right now. They must have taken that off the board for a second. Because I was going to say Bill.

2:07:34PFT Commenter:What about Luke McCaffrey?

2:07:36Doug Pederson:I was going to say Bill. Bill Krosky-Meritt.

2:07:39PFT Commenter:Okay.

2:07:39Doug Pederson:Do you see that? By the way, Shane and I have a bet going for this game, a little PMT-Mairs bet. Yeah. It's for the football. Oh. It's for the football.

2:07:49PFT Commenter:I also, update on the football, update on the football, had a little toss with Shane. That's a really good football. It's a great football. Like the whole time I was playing toss with him, I was just like, I get it. I get why you're so defensive of this football and almost cried when PFT took it. Yeah, an eight.

2:08:06Doug Pederson:They actually did cry. Yeah, so Max, why were you shaking your head? No, I'm shaking my head that I'm not seeing this either.

2:08:12PFT Commenter:Yeah, I think it's probably because they don't know the official status of Jaden.

2:08:16Doug Pederson:No, I think they said Jaden was going to play. Oh, okay. Yeah, he's back. All right, so you want to throw Bill in there?

2:08:21PFT Commenter:I want to throw Bill in there, yeah. All right, I'll go homecoming Ibuka. Okay. So those are our TD Parlay. Bet it with us. Let's do our picks. Our picks. we are right now let's see standings we have i have five points zach or sorry memes and i are in in first with five points zach hank in second with four points max and pft with three points nice two and oh week pft love it we're stacking wins back uh all right who goes first pft pft your first okay i am going to go there's a lot of pressure going for yeah a lot of pressure go you want to pass no i'm going to go

2:09:06Doug Pederson:with the under and titans cardinals 42 and a half okay i'm going over patriots bills 49 and a half i'm going to take uh the lunder good one it is 36 and a half or 43 or no yeah 36 and a half Minnesota Vikings, Cleveland Browns.

2:09:24PFT Commenter:Okay, memes? Chargers minus two and a half. Oh, fuck. All right, I have a feeling that if the...

2:09:31Doug Pederson:I meant to... When we do these, I always bet my picks. Names. It's not a slight. I have a feeling it's... No, no, no, no. It's not a slight. I'm going to ask, did you see Jaden's press conference this week, and is that why... No, the Chargers are 3-1 against the spread, and I learned from last year when Harbaugh said, don't bet against us, just to bet them. Nothing to do with Jaden Daniels taunting the Mets? No.

2:09:55PFT Commenter:Memes. Maybe a little bit. Follow-up question. If the Bears weren't on a bye, would your pick be whoever the Bears are playing?

2:10:03Doug Pederson:No, stick with my plan, Georgia. Like 90 % because Jaden taunted the Mets? No, he was struggling to even talk about the Mets last night. We usually love each other, too. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. All right, Max. Cowboys-Jets over 47 and a half.

2:10:20PFT Commenter:Okay. Zach, double it up.

2:10:24Doug Pederson:Has the, in the Giants-Saints game, has the Giants plus one and a half been taken?

2:10:29PFT Commenter:No.

2:10:29Doug Pederson:I would like to take that, if that's okay. Yep. And then I would also like to take the, over in the Bills-Patriots game, if that's still available. I took it. That's gone? Yep. I thought that one was gone. I wasn't sure. That's why I had a second. Yep. And then, okay. I will then take the, have the just been taken plus two and a half. You just took. Right. Yep. What did you just take? No, no, no. He just took the Giants. Wait, yeah, yeah. He just took the Giants. You need a total. Yeah, I'm an idiot. You're good. You're good. You're good. I need a total here. Yeah, so I can't take tonight's game.

2:11:02Doug Pederson:Yep. Broncos Eagles over 43 and a half available. Yes. Yep. Stamp it. Stamp it. Stamp it. He loves that pick. He loves that pick. Everyone should take that pick. It's a good pick. I'm going to get gross. I'm going to take Panthers plus one and a half.

2:11:19PFT Commenter:Ooh, I like it. We stick with that game. Panthers, Dolphins over 45 and a half.

2:11:24Doug Pederson:I'm going to take the New England Patriots plus eight and a half.

2:11:28PFT Commenter:I am going to take the New York Jets plus two and a half. Love that.

2:11:38Doug Pederson:Love that. QB1. Can I take the Patriots money line? I guess.

2:11:47PFT Commenter:You don't get extra points, though, so no.

2:11:49Doug Pederson:That's different from Hank's pick. It is different. I'm willing to allow it if you want to.

2:11:55PFT Commenter:But it doesn't add. It counts as one. Yeah.

2:11:58Doug Pederson:Yes, it's one.

2:11:59PFT Commenter:It would be stupid to do, but yes.

2:12:01Doug Pederson:But this has got to be the week. I'm willing to allow it if you want to do it. At some point, Drake Mays got to do it. Okay. I'm willing to allow it. So you're going to allow it. I'm going to go Patriots money line. Okay. Fuck yeah. That rocks. That rocks. Let's go.

2:12:15PFT Commenter:Oh, man. I love this new dynamic. Drake May playing well. BFD now feels a little bit of what I felt for all of last year. If Drake May outplays Jaden Daniels, it's like, why didn't the Commanders take Drake May?

2:12:29Doug Pederson:The absence of Jaden has left a gaping hole in my life. Yeah. You've gotten deep into stats. I get bummed out. You dealt it with hate. No, I get bummed out on Sundays. And I like watching the Commanders play. I love the team. I hope the best for them. But there's something just about a weekend when Jaden started where it gets me out of bed. Breakfast tastes great. I wake up bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, ready to go. You don't get that with Marcus Mariota. Yeah. I'm just excited to feel that again.

2:12:59PFT Commenter:That's facts. Okay, let's get to our interview. We've got Super Bowl winning head coach in studio, Doug Peterson.

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2:14:02PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is Super Bowl winning head coach and Super Bowl champion as a player, Doug Peterson in studio. Coach, we're excited to have you here. I want to talk some football. Let's start with this. You're taking a year off. You're watching football on the couch. How has it been seeing it from afar after how many years was it in a row that you were either playing or part of a coaching staff in the NFL?

2:14:33Dan Katz:Yeah, it's been a while. I think I figured it out to be about 28 years total. I will say this. There was a break in 21 when I left the Eagles, but 28 years total. So it's been a while since I've had a significant break from the game of football, which I love. It's been good. It's a 30 ,000-foot perspective. It's seeing things with calmer eyes. It's been able to watch more games, to see it from a TV or maybe even a fan perspective. But it's hard for me to watch it as a fan. I still watch it as a coach, and my eyes are still glued onto the defense. My eyes go to the offensive formation. But it's been exciting for me to be able to just sit back and relax and watch these games.

2:15:19Dan Katz:You still love football?

2:15:21Doug Pederson:I do. When you're watching, you're like, I love this.

2:15:23Dan Katz:I do. I love football. I miss the competition. I miss game day. I miss being with the guys on the sideline, feeling the heat, feeling those tense moments, like just watching the Cowboys-Packers the other night coming down to overtime. Really, the end of the game, Dallas needed a score to tie and vice versa, and then you get into overtime. Just that kind of stuff, that adrenaline kind of pumping that you feel on the sideline. Those are the things I really miss.

2:15:50Doug Pederson:We've been talking a lot about the end-of-game situations and how a lot of coaches are hiring guys that are just specialized and telling them, okay, clock management, here's when you use your timeouts, that type of stuff. Like here's where you go for it. Having like that analytical voice or whatever you want to call it, that voice in your ear. Did you ever use somebody like that or was that just all in your brain?

2:16:07Dan Katz:No, no. I definitely had a John Ferrari in Philadelphia and Zach Beesline in Jacksonville. and these two guys really are lifesavers on game day. And it's a lot of different scenarios. Their job during the week is obviously to help the head coach make decisions on game day based on rules that come up, based on challenges, based on timeouts, based on all the things that get teams beat, which to me is the end of the half and end of the game, right, and not making good decisions. So when I was in Philadelphia, John was that voice of reason for me in the press box. And Zach was that guy for me in Jacksonville.

2:16:50Dan Katz:And again, as good as gold, they were on point. And it really took a lot of the guesswork out of it for me and just say, hey, throw the challenge flag. Call a timeout here. Don't call a timeout here. Let's let the clock run. Things like that. Those guys were good as gold. Yeah.

2:17:07PFT Commenter:Do you laugh? you have a long history with Andy Reid he was your coach as a player and then you were on his coaching staffs do you laugh when people are like oh the Chiefs are in trouble and you're like Andy's gonna be fine like do you talk to him at all and you're like this is people freak out and they think like oh man you know the sky is falling after a couple weeks but you know him so well like I would assume he's unflappable in these moments

2:17:34Dan Katz:he's the best in these moments and I do chuckle when I hear things, whether it's through the media or friends that talk about the Chiefs are done. The Chiefs, maybe their run is over. Pat Mahomes is not the same. Kelsey's not the same. Coach Reed, not the same. I just have to sit and chuckle because the history of Andy Reed, if you go back and just look at his teams, they always kind of start slow but finish extremely fast and very powerful. And they're just, I think, last week kind of caught their stride just a little bit. By no means are they there yet. We were only four weeks in. But, yeah, I just sit back and just kind of go, I just wish they knew who Andy Reid is, who Andy Reid was as a coach, and I think they'd have a better picture.

2:18:19PFT Commenter:Was there ever a time when you were coaching with Andy Reid where you had to be like, hey, should we think about running the ball a little bit?

2:18:25Dan Katz:That's the thing that really is interesting because Andy does run the football a lot. Yeah, but there's been times when he's – He's been criticized for throwing it a little bit too much. Yeah. I would never say that. I would never suggest that when I was working for him. But I think every play caller gets to a point in their career where they kind of need that voice of reason in their head saying, hey, coach, dial up a few more runs. Let's take a little pressure off our quarterback right now. Let's try to help our football team maybe get into a rhythm, and sometimes running the ball can help that.

2:19:00Doug Pederson:When you were working with Andy Reid, did you ever say to him, hey, coach, maybe it's time to wear pants instead of shorts at practice so I get a little bit cold out here? 40 degrees might be a little bit. No.

2:19:09Dan Katz:No? Always shorts, right? Always shorts with him. Always shorts. And in the office, he always wore his rainbow sandals. Love that. Yeah. Love that about it. Yeah. Yeah.

2:19:18Doug Pederson:Now that you get to watch it as a fan, that's got to be a cool experience to be able to enjoy an NFL Sunday like everybody else enjoys it, sit on the couch, flip back and forth from the games. Is there one team that you're watching where you're like, okay, they're doing something different, and it's really intrigued you?

2:19:34Dan Katz:You know, I try to watch, not necessarily a specific team, but I do watch teams that have maybe a new defensive or offensive coordinator and sometimes even maybe a new head coach, like in Jacksonville, for instance. I mean, because I was just there last year and now seeing what Liam's done and watching his young coordinators kind of, you know, what are they doing differently offensively? Is it more zone scheme? Is it more gap scheme, you know, running the football? Because they are running the ball at a successful rate right now. What are they doing in the passing game? And listen, the passing game, everybody's running the same plays, right?

2:20:09Dan Katz:There's no magical play. There's no magical defense. Everybody's running the same schemes. It's just how am I putting my players in position to be successful? How am I using the talent that I have on offense or defense, you know, to go out and win a football game? So how are they using Trevor? How are they using Travis Etienne? You know, how are they using Josh Hines Allen and Trayvon Walker and these guys on defense? And so being able to watch that and then having the success that they're having right now, especially on defense, where they're creating takeaways. And that's something we had a hard time doing in Jacksonville was creating takeaways.

2:20:42Dan Katz:But now it seems like they're coming in droves, right? They're coming in abundance. And watching teams like that, watching the teams with new coordinators or new head coaches is fascinating to me.

2:20:51PFT Commenter:Yeah. Tough question. Dumb question. we have a knack for knowing when a coach might be about to be fired based on quotes and everything. You survived all of last year. Was that a little shocking? Because I feel like at one point last year we were like, is he going to get fired now? It was like, hey, I guess I'm not fired until the end of the year. You did the whole year.

2:21:15Dan Katz:I mean, I would lie to you if I said I didn't hear the noise.

2:21:20PFT Commenter:Right. How does that work in a building like that when things are going bad and I swear we're going to talk about you winning the Super Bowl so it's not going to be all good. But how does it work when things are going bad and you hear the noise and you're just like, what's going on here? Are we good or are we?

2:21:34Dan Katz:You know, I stayed in great communication with the owner. I think it starts there because he's ultimately the one that hires and fires everybody. The GM can have some of that say. But having constant communication and not trying to pull the wool over anybody's eyes. he knows just like I do we're struggling as a team you know we've we can't stay healthy this that and the other but it's my job to walk in that team meeting with as much energy as I can to be as upbeat as I can to still motivate the football team to win a game on Sunday yeah and that's our job it's week to week it's not season to season it's week to week that and you're playing you're really playing and coaching every week for your job and so for me I try to block it out as best i can but you always have that family friend yeah it's like hey uh you get a text and you're like hey doug um i read this report that says that uh you may get fired at the bye week i'm like

2:22:30Doug Pederson:thanks a lot dude i thought you were a friend yeah it's like two weeks from now and they're saying hey just just a heads up you might get fired in like 10 days yeah so be ready for that

2:22:39PFT Commenter:one what are you doing yeah why now you know that is i don't need this from you that is pretty crazy to have that that moment just being like i wasn't thinking about it but now i am thinking about it

2:22:49Dan Katz:because you texted me about it now you know or they text my wife and you know she's got to sit there for you know five or six days before like every time i get home did you get fired today did you yeah or where are we going we're going back to jupiter yeah you know i'm saying so you just have to you have to block it out the best you can um you know obviously this is that time of year as we head into october kind of the second quarter of the season where there's there's rumblings already of coaches that might be on the hot seat or maybe they were on the hot seat preseason. There's a lot of football left, so things can happen.

2:23:25Dan Katz:And it also has to feel a little bit better

2:23:26PFT Commenter:knowing that pretty much every coach ever got fired. You're hired and you're fired. Yeah. And they fired Andy Reid. They fired Tom Landry. You go down the list and it's like these guys, great coaches, they get fired. Sometimes you can be on the hot seat,

2:23:40Doug Pederson:then you win a Super Bowl right after you're on the hot seat, And then, like, after a couple games, maybe you lose the next season. Then you're on the hot seat right again. It's really a thankless job sometimes.

2:23:50Dan Katz:What have you done for me lately, business? And honestly, you know, I learned that as a player. And I think being a player and being on successful football teams, and I was also on not-so-successful football teams. My year in Cleveland, we weren't very good. My first year in Philly with Andy Reid as a player, we weren't very good. So I've seen it from both sides. And then experiencing that as a coach from both sides. So understanding what the NFL is, it is week to week, and it's hard to win games in the National Football League. And, you know, we're seeing that as we start this, you know, 2025 season.

2:24:23PFT Commenter:Yeah, I didn't realize it, but you mentioned it. You are on the list of 41 quarterbacks that have started for the Cleveland Browns since 1999. Who was before and after you?

2:24:33Dan Katz:So before me was Tim Couch. Okay. And actually we were teammates together. He actually started that season in 19, actually in 2000. he started that year, broke his thumb about six, seven games in. I started, and then we had Spurgeon win. Yeah. Kevin Thompson were the two quarterbacks. And actually, and Ty Detmer was actually there too the year prior. And then the year I was there, he was actually on injured reserve. So by the end of this season in Cleveland that year, the four quarterbacks that originally went to training camp for the Cleveland Browns were all on injured reserve. Wow. The three of us that ended the season came either during the year or, in my case, I came week one.

2:25:16Doug Pederson:Yeah. I mean, it's an honor to be listed on that jersey. That jersey will stand mortal that they have. Peterson. Peterson, yeah. It's kind of wild. So we can't talk about some of your successes, too, because you've obviously had a lot of wins, great head coach, won a Super Bowl. Did you ever think, man, the 2018 Jaguars would have kicked our ass in the Super Bowl if they'd beaten the Patriots?

2:25:38Dan Katz:i always i'm asked that question quite a bit and i i do really i i am i am we're big good guys yeah because yeah yeah and we're big blake i was looking at that right there yeah um i don't know if it was as much the offense as it was the defense that year for jacksonville quite honestly now they had leonard fournette he could turn around and hand the ball off to him he was great at that great running back obviously they had a tremendous defense they were creating takeaways you know it would have been an interesting it would have been an interesting matchup I still think we would have won the game you know the Super Bowl obviously because our team I think if there's ever a team of destiny if that's such a thing yeah I think that 2017-18 Philadelphia Eagle team was destined to kind of not only be in the Super Bowl but win win that game and we had a really good football team but playing Jacksonville would have been

2:26:31Doug Pederson:interesting yeah i just i we like to remind people that they were beating the new england patriots until they called miles jack down just so that people don't forget that the jaguars should have been in that super bowl but that was it was a great game i mean that was an electric super bowl you're going to be a legend in philadelphia for forever yeah first super bowl in philly yeah do

2:26:49Dan Katz:they still call you big balls doug you get a few shout outs every now and then when you're walking

2:26:53PFT Commenter:the streets of philly you sure do yeah the i know that i know you've been asked this probably 10 billion times but the philly philly play philly special uh what's going through your head when that happens are you like god damn it this better work because you do a trick play in the super bowl if you if it fails that is a career suicide everyone talks about yeah is that going through

2:27:17Dan Katz:your mind at all during that moment actually actually the that that phrase that thought never crossed my mind yeah at the time because you're in you obviously you're in the moment your coach in the moment um i had just we had just lined up for a fourth down play and i didn't didn't like it so i called a timeout and i you could kind of feel i do remember this you could kind of feel the stadium go okay he's gonna kick a field goal here he's gonna get the three points go into the locker room and and go that route um but i i never it never once crossed my mind to kick the field goal we were we were gonna go we're on the goal line we're we're a yard from scoring your big balls doug yeah i guess i mean that's just it so we such a big balls answer yeah yeah like i never thought about doing a field thought about that so when nick foals came over and he suggested he suggested philly philly which was the play was actually philly special he suggested philly philly my pause and my hesitation was i never thought of that play in that moment at that particular time it was yes it was a a low red zone play but maybe on like a first or second down possibly a third down where you had another chance of you know running another play but never on a fourth down at that moment yep and so that's why the the hesitation and then it just hit me like yeah let's let's do it you know and and uh what's funny about the whole thing it'd be like you and I having a conversation and you suggesting to me Philly Philly but these microphones are off so you can't hear us yeah so my offensive coaching staff could not hear Nick and i have this dialogue during the timeout it was just he and i my mic was off nobody was around when he suggested the play so when the mics went back on and i turned my mic back on frank reich john de filippo players are asking me like coach what would you call and i said philly special and it was like chirp chirp chirp chirp chirp like you could hear crickets on the on the on the line i'm like okay i guess it's just me and nick we're all in we're all in they wanted plausible deniability in case yeah we didn't call it yeah all it um but uh i remember le garrett blunt was standing right behind me and he he asked me tapped me on the shoulder what'd you call coach what'd you call and i go i said we called philly special and he went oh yeah he started hooping and hollering and stuff like that and obviously it was a successful play for the touchdown and and of course the sideline went crazy but yeah it was a it was a Pretty intense moment there for a few seconds.

2:29:49PFT Commenter:How many times do you practice that play, like, leading up to the Super Bowl

2:29:53Dan Katz:to feel like, hey, this is good enough that we can do this? So we introduced the play. We were the number one team in the NFC, so we had a bye. Home field throughout. So we had that one extra week at the beginning to get healthy and to practice, and we didn't know who we were playing. So we introduced it that bye week and put the play in. and it didn't look great the first couple times we repped it in practice. In fact, it was almost a point where I was going to just pull it completely from the game plan if we were going to use it. Wow. Yeah, so we just kept working it, working it. And then the Atlanta game came and we kept working it some more.

2:30:33Dan Katz:The Minnesota game came and we finally put it in for Minnesota. And I said, okay, it's ready to go. We've cooked it up enough. Of course, we practiced it probably well over a dozen times over a course of two weeks just to get it ready for a game. Put it in for the Vikings. The NFC Championship game obviously didn't need it. And then I went to Frank Reich the next week as we were getting ready for New England and said, let's keep it in the game plan. Let's keep working it, working it, working it. And then, of course, we never practiced it in Minnesota when we're there the whole week. We never practiced it except in the hotel.

2:31:09Dan Katz:in our fall. Because you didn't want anyone to see it. I didn't want anybody to see it because there's a lot of media at the Super Bowl practices, and I just didn't want this play to get caught on a cell phone, and then next thing you know, it's on Instagram or social media. I don't know if Belichick would have gotten his hands on that. Yeah, he probably had our cameras mic'd and bugged. So we just worked it in the hotel.

2:31:30Doug Pederson:That's great. That's awesome. Yeah, where did you get the concept of the play from? Yeah, so I had an assistant quality control coach on offense,

2:31:39Dan Katz:Press Taylor, who became my offensive coordinator in Jacksonville. And Frank and I kind of, when he was our QC, we kind of gave him a task to find a bunch of trick plays, look in college, look in the NFL, put a tape together, you know, 20, 25, 30 plays, whatever it was, of trick plays. And so he brought it to me. I think it was about 35, 40 plays on this reel. I just kept buzzing through. I said, ah, I don't like that, don't like that, don't like that. Then I got to the Chicago. It was 2015. It was the Chicago Bears versus the Minnesota Vikings. The Bears had just scored, and they went for a two-point conversion, and they ran the exact play.

2:32:19Dan Katz:Yeah, yeah. And Alshon Jeffrey was a member of the Bears. Yeah. And it was in Minneapolis, and I ran the play, and I kept running it back, running it back. I ran it down to Frank and I said, we're putting this play in right here. So the Bears won the Super Bowl is what you're saying. Bears helped us win the Super Bowl.

2:32:37PFT Commenter:Wait, was that Mark Trestman or that was John Fox?

2:32:40Dan Katz:2015. That was, I think that was Fox.

2:32:44PFT Commenter:Might have been John Fox.

2:32:45Doug Pederson:It might have been John Fox. You could do an entire podcast just about a play. Just about that one. Like going back, seeing where John Fox got that play from, how it evolved over the years. Yeah, just tracing it through the years.

2:32:55Dan Katz:You know, obviously in Philly we take credit for the Philly special. Well, then everybody comes out of the woodwork and says, well, no, we put this in high school back in 2012. Well, no, we put this in back in 2004. So the play's been around for a while. It's just never been executed on the biggest stage in the biggest moment in a Super Bowl to help a team win a football game. How much of – obviously they get all the attention.

2:33:22PFT Commenter:Everything is, you know, wins and losses, quarterbacks. And when you're dealing with a quarterback, whether it be a younger quarterback, Trevor Lawrence or Nick Foles, week-to-week confidence, how do they keep it and how are you coaching that? Because it feels like the mental part of the quarterback game is so massive and just having that, like, I'm seeing the field correctly, I know what I'm looking for. How much of your week is that?

2:33:47Dan Katz:Well, you know, there's a lot. I mean, you're obviously coaching him, that player, that quarterback, the game plan. You're teaching the game plan that week. And a lot of times, you know, you say it's week to week. Well, game plans are weekly too, right? So you might get a new game plan each week just because you're playing a different team, a different scheme, right? So sure, there's some carryover and things like that. But the communication starts really on Monday. You know, Sunday, you got your game, you win, lose, whatever, you fly back to town. But it's Monday when you're beginning to put your game plan together.

2:34:23Dan Katz:It's your dialogue with your quarterback, with Nick Foles, with Trevor Lawrence, Carson Wentz, whoever it is, Alex Smith in Kansas City. And you begin the dialogue like, what are you seeing? This is what we see. What are you seeing? And then brainstorm ideas. What do you like? Pick a play or two you like from our offense. Pick eight plays. I don't care. Maybe you have a new play you want to put in that week, but give it to us on a Monday or a Tuesday morning as we begin to plan. Let us as coaches see if we can integrate it into our offense. And so that constant dialogue is ongoing throughout the course of the week.

2:35:01Dan Katz:And I always wanted the quarterback's input. I always wanted to feel like he had ownership in the game plan. It couldn't just be from Doug Peterson or whoever my offensive coordinator, Frank Reich, Press Taylor, whoever it was. It has to be his as well. He's got to buy into what we're going to put in on Wednesday as we begin the prep for the upcoming game. But I think on top of that, too, is you have to control the outside influences, meaning you've got to control family. You've got to control the media. You've got to control public appearances during the week. And you've just got to tell the people in your organization, like, say, your public relations department, like, look, I've got a young quarterback.

2:35:44Dan Katz:He doesn't need to be doing every social media interview, every print media interview that's out there that comes our way. He's got to focus on this game. Let's get him through like year two. Let's get him to year three before we open kind of the floodgates and allow him more exposure. We're trying to build his confidence through this whole process. And then keeping game plans tight, keeping them small, keeping them to where if I got to call one play three times, that's great because the ball could go three different spots on the same play. So all of that is just a constant massage throughout the course of the week of building this game plan.

2:36:28Dan Katz:And then by the time we get to Friday, and even sometimes on Saturday when we sit down Saturday night at the hotel and we're sitting with the quarterbacks and we go, hey, Trevor, I know there's a handful of plays you're just not comfortable with this week. What are they? And we take them out. Just get some white out and just take your game plan and just strike through it, and that's fine. We got 1 ,000 plays on that call sheet, right? So the biggest thing is obviously confidence. and he's got to feel a thousand percent confident going into that football game and that's the mindset that your quarterback has to have and that's why I'm not a big when it comes to quarterbacks I don't yell and scream and you know get irate and you might be able to do that with a D lineman or a linebacker offensive line but with your quarterback you got to be calm cool collected level-headed hey let's have conversation what did you see on that play this is what we saw on that play this is what the coaches in the box saw on that play and let's let's continue to have that dialogue and that really goes a long way in the success that you're going to have not only on Sunday but the course of the year it's 2026 getting your protein fix should be easy with

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2:37:51PFT Commenter:butter protein my personal favorite and almond banana protein smoothie to name a few available for a limited time only? Tropical Smoothie Cafe. It's tropic time. Dumb question about play calling. The opening script usually, like it feels like there's guys who their opening script is phenomenal and it's like there's teams that you can be like hey, they're going to just come out and they're going to march right down the field and score. Have you ever thought about just running the opening script back? All the time.

2:38:19Dan Katz:Why didn't you? All the time. Would you? Because sometimes you give your opponent, again this goes back to a coach kind of sometimes getting a little paranoid yeah and it's it it's my philosophy was always like if it worked the first time it should work again the second yeah run it until they stop it right right right but you outthink yourself and and you got all these plays at your disposal and you think that oh if i ran that out of this formation um then we can't i can't come back to that again even though it ripped off 22 yards you know what i'm saying so that's what happens as a play call and sometimes I'm sitting there looking at my openers and going well that play was good yeah that play was great well this play scored you know type thing and I'm like why don't I and I'm I'm I'm having these like arguments with my head in my head like why am I not going back

2:39:09PFT Commenter:to these plays I'm happy though that you answered that at least you thought about it because I always watch it just like just or like go one through 15 then 15 through one just running it backwards yeah yeah like no one's gonna expect that and most of those plays probably have a

2:39:24Dan Katz:multiple formation with them yeah or maybe just put a wrinkle motion to it or a shift and you could run the exact same play those those openers those first 15 the openers um i got that from mike holmgren when i was a player in green bay because he had he had the first 15 and and really the way the way i set mine up and i think andy reed kind of does the same thing but all the odd numbers so your 1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 those were all like your first and 10 plays and then your even numbers were your second down plays you always had a separate third down menu so they were never on your openers because you never knew if you're gonna be third and 10 or third and two yep right so that was a different menu and then your red zone was a different menu so the opening kickoff could get ripped off right to the 10 yard line and now you're using your plus 10 menu you know type thing so you're not even on your first 15 so it's a it's a little bit of a Yeah, you got to be fluid.

2:40:16Dan Katz:Yeah, yeah, yeah. But those plays should be specific enough to what we've seen and studied throughout the course of the week and the plays we've probably repped the most that the players have the most confidence. Right.

2:40:27Doug Pederson:How long were your play calls? How verbose did it get?

2:40:30Dan Katz:Oh, gosh. Can you call us one in? Red left switch, tight, close. Sprint right, GU corner, halfback flat on one. Ready to break. Red left switch, tight, close. GU unit. Purple. Red left switch, tight close That's the formation Red left switch, tight close Sprint right G I can remember tight close Sprint right G G was the guard pull So sprint right, quarterback, sprint right G, pull the right guard Because he's going to trap the end man Sprint right G U was a letter we used for a second tight end In the West Coast system So sprint right G U corner, half back, flat I like Philly Philly better Why didn't you just name every play Jaguar Sprint Name this This is going to be PFT But you know what Working with Andy Reid He would draw and design all these plays On his whiteboard I'd go into his office as his coordinator I'd go in on a Monday afternoon After the players were out of the building And we'd start our thoughts from preparation I'd look at his whiteboard and I'm going It's like a mad scientist yeah he's got green markers and black markers yellow red or all these formations and plays and stuff and he goes i want to put that one in that one in that one and that one like great what's the personnel yeah well i want i want kelsey there i want duane back there's duane bow there you know i want uh you know i'm like okay what are we going to call it that's why i'm the coordinator i gotta organize all this stuff i gotta organize his thoughts and then he'll just sit there and go french fries yeah we're just gonna call it the personnel group the formation we're just gonna call it french fries it's great wait were you coaching on the staff when the

2:42:19PFT Commenter:chiefs had that stretch where they didn't have a wide receiver uh touchdown yes were you guys would you sit during the week and be like hey can we try to do this because it was a crazy street we went and you guys were still playing well but it was just like yeah they haven't had a wide

2:42:34Dan Katz:receiver touchdown in like i think the closest we got chase daniel was in because it was the end of the season i think we had clinched a playoff spot or we were winning a football game so chase daniel was in he threw one i think if i can remember this went to like dwayne bow but it got tipped and and it was um our running back was in the back and he he catches he catches the pass for a touch i'm like we still can't complete one to a receiver for a touchdown yeah that was a crazy

2:43:01Doug Pederson:stretch and it was the weirdest part was the team was really good you guys were winning football

2:43:05Dan Katz:games we were winning games i think it was the same year that we um uh we started the season one and five and then we we won 11 in a row uh after that yeah we lost to the patriots in the divisional

2:43:16Doug Pederson:round i always hear coaches say like you can't overlook an opponent they usually say that after a loss where they lose a game and they're like you know you can't look overlook an opponent um have you ever overlooked an opponent and then kicked the shit out of them just like dominated and be like, yeah, I was right to kind of overlook them.

2:43:31Dan Katz:You know what? I never have. I've always used that philosophy, I mean, even when you coach your football team, because you hear trap game all the time. This is a trap game. This is a trap. It's a game we should win. And part of my messaging, even during training camp and as we whittle our roster down to the 53 in the practice squad and we start having these team meetings, it's like, guys, our goals, obviously this is the Super Bowl, but we got to win the winnable games. Our schedule, there's, I don't know, you look at your schedule and maybe you got three games on there that are winnable. Then there's those games that are, you know, you're probably going to be favored, might be a close game, but, you know, you need to win your share of those games.

2:44:14Dan Katz:And then there's those ones where you're going to be the underdog, you're playing a really good football team. Say you got, you know, four of those and you got to at least split those. Yeah. You've got to go two and two. So those are conversations you have early on so that you don't get into that mindset of, oh, we're going to look to the Colts next week because we have whoever on Sunday. Yeah. That's interesting.

2:44:38Doug Pederson:So you make the winnable games are actually the must-win games.

2:44:41PFT Commenter:Yeah.

2:44:42Doug Pederson:Yeah.

2:44:44PFT Commenter:That's funny because you do what we do. We do the same thing. We break it down where it's like you have to win this game. 100%. Yeah. You've got to win this game. It's like you have to win this game.

2:44:52Doug Pederson:Right. Yeah. I got a question for you about how you handled the quarterback situation in Philly. Because that's not an easy position for a coach to be in, for a head coach to be in. You got a guy that wins the Super Bowl. You have a guy who is, what, second overall in Carson Wentz that the team drafted. How did you go about making that decision in that offseason? Like, which quarterback am I going to stick with here? Yeah, so that was obviously we came out of the Super Bowl.

2:45:17Dan Katz:You know, Carson was injured and still injured going into 18. So it was kind of a no-brainer. Nick Foles was going to start the 18th season. And then somewhere like week two, week three of that year, Carson was going to take over because he was our guy. So he goes and plays, but then he gets hurt again postseason, Nick Foles, you know, the whole thing. So kind of fast forward to 2020. We draft Jalen Hurts, right? Well, Carson Wentz goes into the season as our starter, you know, that year. And started the year. and we didn't have a very good year in 2020 just was not our year things weren't going our way Carson wasn't playing exceptionally well we weren't running the football we just we just couldn't do much offensively and finally you just get to a point where you feel like you've got to do something for your football team you hear coach speak like this is what's best for the team yeah well it's really what's best for the team because the team is looking at me going coach they're not saying this but they're looking at me going you need to make a change it's just this is not working and the change has to be at the quarterback position I mean you could change a linebacker out you could change a DB out you could change no lineman out it doesn't affect the football team as much but you change your quarterback now you're sending a message to everybody like whoa we need to we need to pick this thing up and it wasn't anything against Carson Wentz it was just the fact that we as a whole team we weren't coaching and playing very well yeah i needed to do something to spark the team and so had that conversation with carson earlier in the week and say listen i'm gonna sit you i'm gonna play jaylen you know we had four games left on our schedule we weren't really going anywhere um and it was time to let jaylen you know to jaylen let jaylen play yeah and then nate sudfeld and then sudfeld at the end and that was another one we get to that last game and we're playing washington and again we just kind of were We're not, you know, we're spinning our wheel.

2:47:18Dan Katz:And the thing about that one, Jalen and Nate and myself, we had conversations during the week that I wanted Nate to play in that last game. I didn't know when it was going to come, but I wanted Nate to play. And both guys, both quarterbacks were on board with that decision. And then we got into the second half and it was just, again, you're trying to find that spark. Not that I was going to stick with Nate the rest of the game, but at least Jalen's a rookie. Let him come over. Let him see some things. Play Nate. and then see if that could spark us.

2:47:47PFT Commenter:Do you ever catch yourself having maybe a little bias towards the backup quarterback, knowing that you were in the NFL as a backup quarterback? You're like, that's my guy. Because I was him. Yeah, I mean, I do feel I know what the backup goes through. Yeah, so explain that because I think people minimize how hard it probably is to be a backup because you were a really good football player and then you have to do a role where you don't get to play football but you have to contribute to the team. What is that like week to week where you're like, I know I'm not going to play, but I have to contribute somehow?

2:48:24Dan Katz:Yeah, it's probably the hardest position on the football team that still has to prepare like a starter but is not playing. I always address the team like we've got 11 starters on offense, we've got 11 on defense, and we've got 11 starters on special teams. Don't forget special teams. That's the third part of this deal. But then there's your backup quarterback. He's on your team. He gets a uniform, but he's not a starter and he doesn't play. Unless the starter gets hurt or he's not playing well. And so just understanding that right there, you know, I'm not going to say it makes it easier, but at least you go into it thinking, okay, I'm one play away.

2:49:14Dan Katz:I have to prepare like the starter because there's been times throughout the course of the NFL, the history of the NFL, where the backup quarterback goes in because of injury, but he's not prepared. Right. Right? And he looks foolish out there. So I'm always coaching the backup just like I'm coaching the starter during the week, even though the backup's not taking the reps with the first unit. And that's the hardest thing because, you know, again, you're sitting there watching, and I never did this in Green Bay. I backed up Brett Favre, Hall of Fame quarterback. I never sat there and go, well, I can do it better than him.

2:49:47Dan Katz:Right. Because if you start thinking like that, then there becomes this sort of animosity in the quarterback. Tension, yeah. Tension on the team. You don't want that. You want your backup to support the starter. You want him to help the starter, but at the same time, if that starter goes out with injury, I've got to put the helmet on and go play. I don't want you to play like the starter. I want you to play like Jalen Hurts or Nick Foles or Nate Sudfeld or whoever, Chase Daniel in Kansas City, whoever it might be, Tyler Bray, who we had in Kansas City. You go be you and go play, and we'll tailor the offense, whatever we have on this sheet, based on what you like.

2:50:24Doug Pederson:Yeah, as a backup, that must have been tough for Brett Favre. It's like, well, this guy's never coming out of the game. Yeah, where you're just like, hey, dude, you're hurt. Yeah. It was the best job in football. all i had to do is hold for all the extra points and field goals i just had to hold the ball is

2:50:37Dan Katz:it harder than we think it is to hold it is it is it it is hard because the the the snappers are extremely good um they fire the ball back extremely fast it's usually a tight little spiral but the thing is it's it's that one errant snap it could be a rainy day you could be here in chicago and the snow's flying or the the balls are are cold and they're freezing your hands aren't and you're trying to grab that football and put it down, or maybe it's a little bit slick. The most famous one for me was a 1993 Thanksgiving Day game, the Leon Lett game. Oh, yeah. I was the holder for the Dolphins. Oh, no way.

2:51:13PFT Commenter:You've been in some iconic, iconic football moments.

2:51:16Dan Katz:So when that kick got blocked by the Cowboys, it rolled towards our goal line. Well, they're yelling, Peter, Peter, whatever they do to get away from. Well, here comes Leon Lett. He thinks he's going to scoop it up. Well, he slips on the ice, kicks the ball down towards our goal line. There's this big pile, this big scrum. Well, we come up with the football. And so now you've got to kick the game winner again on ice, a ball that's frozen, put it down, and let Pete stay out of it. So it's harder than it looks.

2:51:52PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right, so I asked you a tough question about getting fired. I'll ask a tough question for myself because I'm a Bears fan. You knew Cody Parkey wasn't hitting that kick, right?

2:52:02Dan Katz:I knew he wasn't hitting that kick. You know what's interesting about that, and I can reveal it now, is during the week, my special teams coordinator, Dave Phipp, came to me. I'll always remember this. And Cody at the time was hitting 90 to 3 % of his field goals.

2:52:24PFT Commenter:Oh, I thought you were going to say post because he had a game like earlier in the year.

2:52:27Dan Katz:Well, he did, but he was in the low 90s, I think, in field goal makes, right, that season. But any time a coach burned a timeout, it literally cut in half.

2:52:38PFT Commenter:Oh, my God.

2:52:40Dan Katz:And he came to me with this interesting nugget of information. And I was like, we're getting to the end. And Mitch Trubisky brought him down the field. Yeah, he brought him down the field. He was looking brilliant. He's like throwing darts out there on a two-minute drive, gets him down into field goal range. I'm going, there's no way. I got one timeout left. This is going to come down to a kick. I'm going to test the theory. And literally, I'm replaying this whole thing in my head. And obviously, you know, it's history now. But yeah, bang the timeout. Because I burned the timeout just before the snap.

2:53:14Dan Katz:Yeah. What do they do? They snap it. They hold it. And he drilled it. But it was a timeout. Yeah. I was like, oh, boy. Oh, man.

2:53:22Doug Pederson:And I went, doink, doink. Oh. The double doink. The double doink.

2:53:27PFT Commenter:That was good sound effect, yeah. How awesome of a feeling is it when someone on your coaching staff comes to you with a nugget like that? Because that's got to be a thrill where they're like, hey, I found this, and I think I found something like whether it be a trick play or the quarterback does something or the timeout with Cody Parkey. Is that just a great feeling?

2:53:47Dan Katz:It is. It is. It just shows that the hard work that assistant coaches and coordinators put in during the week to find little nuggets like that that we can use, whether we're game planning during the week or even during the game, for a coach to say, hey, every time we're in this formation, they're playing this defense. And if they do it once, great. If they do it again, okay, we got something. But if it's a third time and they keep doing it, I mean, it's just things like that that can help you win football games. That just comes from the hard work and the study and the preparation that they do.

2:54:23Doug Pederson:This might be a dumb question, but all the prep and hard work that goes into it, if you find yourself in a big game like against the New England Patriots and Malcolm Butler is not on the field, do you have to change anything up about your game plan?

2:54:36Dan Katz:No. We're just curious as to why. Yeah. Why isn't he – because we just find out he's a healthy scratch or he's not starting and the whole thing. And it's like, well, that's kind of interesting because we were obviously planning on him to play for two weeks, and then he's not out there. But once you start playing, because there's a lot of substitutions that go on during the course of a ballgame, but you try not to play too much into something like that.

2:55:03Doug Pederson:I would start to think, like, is Belichick playing a mind trick on me? Like, what's he doing? I'm trying to figure out why he's not out there. Is that exactly where he wants me?

2:55:11Dan Katz:Yeah. No, I mean, I never went there with that. It's just sometimes it happens. Who knows? I'm not on their sideline in their organization to know why. Because, again, we're trying to get ourselves ready to go.

2:55:25Doug Pederson:Yeah. I know Max has some questions. He's a big Eagles fan. He's just been sitting over here just, like, smiling and nodding his head. The Philly special part, that was a wet dream for you, Max. Yeah, I actually have a question, a follow-up question about the Philly special. You were looking at the play sheet When Foles came over And hit you with Philly Philly In an alternate reality Nick Foles never comes over He never tells you that Where were you leaning to go with on that play?

2:55:52Dan Katz:I have no idea

2:55:54Doug Pederson:I have no idea

2:55:55Dan Katz:Because I was again Because I was looking at my Fourth down menu I was looking at my goal line menu I was looking at the plus five red zone menu There was about three spots that I was putting my eyes on my call sheet. Philly special was not in any one of those boxes. But again, that's just like a coach coming to you with a nugget of information. And this was kind of our season that year with the players. The players were always coming to me with thoughts and suggestions and ideas. And this goes back to the quarterback thing about preparation and all of that. That whole season, you know, we kind of changed, I think, the course of history in the National Football League by the amount of fourth down conversions we had and the two-point conversions and different things.

2:56:45Dan Katz:Big balls dug. And that's where it all started, right? So our players were very comfortable in those moments. And so Nick just never batted an eye, suggested the play, and, I mean, it was like – It was always an ace, but absolutely. That was it.

2:57:04PFT Commenter:Yeah. You got other questions? I do. Okay, go ahead.

2:57:09Doug Pederson:You talked about the backup quarterback and how the backup quarterback should support the starter and never question whether or not they believe that they should be the starter. You dealt with multiple quarterback controversies when you were in Philadelphia, where it seemed like both guys thought that they should have been the starter, whether it was Carson and Jalen or Carson and Nick, could you feel the tension in the room when there was that moment there?

2:57:38Dan Katz:I never felt it with Carson and Nick because Nick's as humble as they come. And you know Nick Foles. He's salt of the earth, right? He'll do whatever you ask him to do. When you have Carson and Jalen, now you have two alphas in the room and they both want to play and they both want to start. So you could definitely, when things were kind of going sideways for us as an offense a little bit, you could kind of feel that tension a little bit between those two because I think one felt like he could play better and the other one just wanted to continue to play and be the starter and lead the football team.

2:58:16Doug Pederson:Yeah. Good question, Max. Go ahead. Any others? And this is my last one. This is my last one. Sorry. Sorry.

2:58:21PFT Commenter:It's okay, Max.

2:58:22Doug Pederson:You probably have the most unique situation in Philadelphia where you're an absolute legend. You're loved in Philadelphia. You brought to the franchise its first Super Bowl. But you also had a pretty short leash. And many people would argue that they split that relationship earlier than a lot of people would have wanted. When you look back at Philadelphia, do you have any resentment with that? or do you still look at it like this is the franchise that I love that I brought a Super Bowl to?

2:58:58Dan Katz:You know, I look at it, too, as when Jeffrey Lurie hired me in 2016, obviously owners hire head coaches to win championships. That's the bottom line, right? You always hire the next head coach to come in to win you a championship. So when I look back on it, it's exactly what we did. He hired me in year two. We won a championship. His first, you know, he's had the team since the early 90s, and, you know, we won a championship. And the 2020 season was a hard season because that was the pandemic year. There were no fans in the stands. We were, you know, social distancing. It was just a hard year to run a team and then, you know, injuries and all that.

2:59:39Dan Katz:But I don't have any resentment. You know, I was hired for a reason, hired for a job. We got the job done. I do sometimes wish that you kind of get through 20 and maybe they give you one more year, maybe the 21 season, and if you fail in 21, then maybe you move on. But it is what it is, and I have no resentment. We did exactly the job that I was hired to do there, and we won a championship. Yeah, you won a Super Bowl.

3:00:08Doug Pederson:Did Howie ever surprise you with a move? Like you come off the practice field and Howie's traded a draft pick or he picked up another wide receiver forward, and you're like, fucking Howie.

3:00:17Dan Katz:No. You know, I tell you this. And working with GMs, working with Howie, working with Trent Baalke in Jacksonville, that was one of the things that both of those guys were very up front with. You know, never pulled a fast one like that. Maybe there was a time, but we would have prior conversations about players and say, okay, hey, if something were to happen, and maybe we move on from player X. And there might be one or two occasions where, yeah, you come off the field and, hey, we moved on from without us saying, hey, we're going to do this now. But we had those conversations. It never was a fast one.

3:00:56Dan Katz:The wool was never pulled over your eyes because, you know, you just don't want that in the building as well. Yeah.

3:01:01Doug Pederson:I also read that when you were a player in between teams, you spent like a summer working for FedEx?

3:01:07Dan Katz:You were delivering packages? Actually, it was called RPS, roadway packaging. It was a form of FedEx or UPS in Louisiana. Yeah, I'd just gotten let go by the Dolphins early in my career. Just got cut by the Dolphins in training camp and was looking for some stuff to do, and I wasn't picked up by anybody. And so I went back to Louisiana, Monroe, Louisiana, and started working for RPS.

3:01:28Doug Pederson:What was that conversation like when you got another gig in the NFL? You're like, hey, I got to go. Did you put in two weeks?

3:01:33Dan Katz:Well, here's a great story about that one. So I'm out on a job with the guy that's showing me the ropes, right? it so i'm like his little i'm the guy that's delivering he's driving and i'm the one sprinting and delivering packages and picking up so we were out on the afternoon route and uh we went to a couple spots well i didn't have my cell phone and i guess my wife would been trying to get in touch with me for a couple hours now and finally tracked me down and uh got in touch with her and um when i when i when i called her back she says where have you been i said well i'm working i'm delivering in these boxes and packages we're about done and she says well the packers called the jets called and the raiders just called and they all want you to go work out for them oh man i was like honey i had no idea my agent didn't say anything i don't have my phone so anyway um i went to green bay in 95 worked out for the packers first and then flew to new york worked out for the jets and by By the time I got on a plane heading back through Louisiana out to see the Raiders, the Packers called back and said, hey, we want to sign you.

3:02:42Dan Katz:We want to bring you in. So I canceled the Raider trip and went to Green Bay in 95.

3:02:45Doug Pederson:You should maybe think about getting back with FedEx, like spend a couple months working with FedEx, get a few job offers.

3:02:50Dan Katz:Get a job offer and see what happens.

3:02:53PFT Commenter:All right, I got a couple last questions. It's been awesome. So much fun having you here in the office. You're a big ice cream guy. Love it. So I'm a big ice cream guy, as you see. I bought the ice cream machine. First of all, how would you rate that ice cream that you ate today?

3:03:09Dan Katz:It's a 10 out of 10. Okay, love that. 10 out of 10. Soft serve, soft serve, vanilla. Love it. Love it. All right, so in your ice cream, you - You just need to improve the condiments.

3:03:20PFT Commenter:Yeah. Agreed. Yeah. We got a guy that's in charge of condiments. Some peanuts.

3:03:24Dan Katz:Yeah. You're right. Maybe some cherries. Cherries, blueberries, blueberries, something. You know what I like to do?

3:03:29Doug Pederson:I like to do the strawberry preserve at the bottom, then the ice cream, then the chocolate syrup. Then you got layers. Pineapples, bananas. Yeah.

3:03:38PFT Commenter:So during your playing days and coaching days, you would use ice cream as a reward, right? For yourself? Oh, yeah. Yeah. 100%. So how much ice cream would you eat in a week?

3:03:49Dan Katz:Oh. Now or then? Then. Then, I only reserved it or saved it for Saturday nights at the team hotel. That's awesome. At the team hotel. Must be the best ice cream ever. You wait all week? I wait all week. That was my reward. That was my gift of practicing all week and not playing on Sunday because Brett was playing and all I had to do was hold and I'd get me a big thing of ice cream and bananas and all that stuff. And then, what about now?

3:04:18PFT Commenter:Probably twice a week. Okay. I mean, that's light numbers. You got to get your numbers up.

3:04:23Dan Katz:No, I can't.

3:04:24PFT Commenter:We're like four times a day here.

3:04:25Dan Katz:I know. Well, you better watch it. Yeah, I know. I know. I better watch it. This new batch is like custom, too. You got to cut something else out then.

3:04:31PFT Commenter:Yeah. Oh, yeah. Here it is. Yeah. Would you tell the guys, go eat some ice cream?

3:04:36Dan Katz:Yeah. So I think this - Watch this video, and then I'll treat you to some ice cream. Check out this video, and then again, treat you to some ice cream, man. Play this video, and then I'll treat you to some ice cream. We got a little ice cream coming up. I know we got some ice cream that's melting So we gotta get out of here Wish you guys the best of luck Treat you to some ice cream We got a little video right here By the way that's a minute long video

3:05:00Doug Pederson:We only got through 20 seconds That was in 2017

3:05:03Dan Katz:And that was every Saturday night When I ended the team meeting At the team hotel Saturday nights I ended with that

3:05:10PFT Commenter:So what ice cream would you get them?

3:05:12Dan Katz:Haagen-Dazs Learn that from the best Yeah. Andy Reid.

3:05:16PFT Commenter:You know, Haagen-Dazs is just two people in New Jersey, right? Or Long Island. Yeah, it's not even a German Haagen-Dazs. Yeah, they made it sound like that. Yeah. Haagen-Dazs. Yeah, it's pretty awesome.

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3:06:11PFT Commenter:You probably are not aware of this. one of my favorite things every single year is when they trot all the coaches out and you have to stand in the sun and you have to take a picture together at the owner's meeting. I blog about it every year. I actually gave you one year. I don't know what year this was. I gave you the absolute unit award. I said, Doug Peterson needs his visor because when he doesn't have his visor, we're all reminded of how much of a unit the man is. You're just standing there directly in the sun. How awkward was that? Those pictures.

3:06:40Dan Katz:Nobody wanted to do it. Yep. Nobody wanted to do it, But you're sitting there and you're in those league meetings and you're sitting there and then finally they go, okay, we're going to take a lunch break. All the coaches and GMs head out to the front lawn. We're going to take the photo. And like everybody, all the coaches, like, we're waiting for like Bill Belichick, Sean Payton to walk out or back then John Groot waiting for all these guys because, you know, they didn't want to be there either. So, you know, my first, like my first year in 2016, I was like the rookie coach, right? So I'm sprinting over there to find my seat, and I'm looking for, all right, where's Andy?

3:07:15Dan Katz:Let me just stand next to Andy and all of that. But, yeah, nobody wants to do those, and I can't even tell you where mine are. I don't know. I love it.

3:07:24Doug Pederson:John Gruden says that that's when they change all the rules. Yeah. You go out, you take the picture, and then you walk back in the building. They're like, hey, we changed a few rules.

3:07:31Dan Katz:And owners are still meeting, and they change everything.

3:07:33PFT Commenter:They make you go play a little golf, and then they're like, hey, we just changed every rule. Yeah. Yeah. We just changed overtime.

3:07:39Dan Katz:Yeah. Yeah.

3:07:41PFT Commenter:Have you thought, last question, the visor, do you wear it? Do you ever put it on now that you're not coaching this year? Have you had like a moment where you see it in the closet and you're like, oh, there it is. I'm going to put this bad boy on.

3:07:54Dan Katz:You know what? I do. It's usually when I play golf. It's usually when I play golf. Yeah. And I see a couple of my visors and I'm like, yeah, I'm going to put this on. Yeah. I feel kind of good with the visor on, you know? Yeah. And yeah, you put it on and you go play and you play like crap. But no, I do. I do miss wearing the visor. I love it. Well, your hair is phenomenal. Except when it's raining or snowing. Yeah. Then I put a ball cap on.

3:08:17Doug Pederson:Full transparency, your hair is so good that through the years, me and Big Cat have insisted that you wear a visor that's got the fake hair on top. Fake hair? Yeah.

3:08:25Dan Katz:That's a compliment. One of the coaches did that one year, didn't they? They put a visor on with a – They might have. Lane Kiffin is going to do that. Yeah, we told him.

3:08:31PFT Commenter:He had Lane Kiffin on on Wednesday. We told him he has to do that. But you do – kind of like how we complimented Lane Kiffin, you do have incredible hair. You have the hair goals of any man who, you know, past 50. It's like, I would love to be a Silver Fox like that, you know. Not to make it weird. I made it a little weird there. Silver Fox was a regrettable thing. I shouldn't have said Silver Fox. Yeah, all right. It's okay. You said it. Own it. Own it. You said it. You're good. Coach, it's been awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you, guys. Yeah, I appreciate it.

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3:09:31PFT Commenter:Okay, Hank, FireFest.

3:09:34Doug Pederson:Yeah, my FireFest, not really relatable at all. extremely hyper specific to just me maybe a few other people in a very specific area of chicago um but it's it's been a it's been a fire fest week it's going to be a fire fest three years

3:09:49PFT Commenter:it's a bit ice no he's talking about the bridge the bridge there's there's two yeah i've i've

3:09:55Doug Pederson:i've been bitching play there there are like 10 people in this office who have to deal with the same shit but there's two bridges two roads that if you're going from like down by the lake towards our office that you take to get to the office one you can go straight and then take a left one you can take a left then go straight both of them 10 to 20 minutes took took me to get to the office for the last two years those both of those roads one's a bridge one's a road close for the next three years to build this casino and now there's a single lane bridge that has like quadrupled the amount of traffic so a once former 10 like leaving the office late like i'm going to tonight used to take me 10 minutes leaving the office tonight probably going to take me 25 30 and it's the same getting to the office and you're just sitting in standstill traffic and it's infuriated have you thought about a zip line no have you thought about that would be fun changing

3:10:54PFT Commenter:your... Address. Yes. Oh. I was going to say changing your commute time. Like leaving earlier. I have. That's what I've been doing. You've been getting here early? Yeah.

3:11:09Doug Pederson:But it's not... It's not... It's leaving... When you leave work, even when you have nowhere to be, you just want to get home.

3:11:17PFT Commenter:There's got to be a different way you can get here.

3:11:21Doug Pederson:No. We can talk about the specific streets, but I'm going through the city and then going up Grand. Chicago Ave Bridge. Can you take a train? No, there's buses, but the buses would have to take the same roads. And they close half the ramps for shortcuts. Yeah. There's a lot of people in this office, so I guess I'm sure there's people in Chicago that maybe deal with this.

3:11:44PFT Commenter:Yeah, if you're going east to west in the city.

3:11:46Doug Pederson:Yeah, it's a nightmare. It's a nightmare, and it's three years. It's like you look it up like, oh, temporary road close, whatever, two weeks construction shore three years that's what i've been thinking like do i just move yeah three years is definitely move territory yeah i would that's my if it shaves 20 minutes off off your commute that's supposed to be only 10 minutes long this is what i would think about moving i used to live in brooklyn and and the l train it used to take me 35 minutes to get to work and then the l train started doing construction and it took me 60 and i moved i couldn't do it yeah yeah more just because it like pisses you off you're like i used to do this yeah it's it's not less time it's not always was this yes you'd be okay with it but the fact that you know what

3:12:29PFT Commenter:it could be that does suck it's like that sucks beyond belief the highways in chicago they keep

3:12:35Doug Pederson:trying to rebuild them and doing construction work on them and then they just like a couple times a year they just take all the cones off and they're like okay it's the best use the whole highway winter yeah and then i feel great and it's so easy to drive everywhere and then in the spring They're like, okay, we're going to put the cones back up. I was like, why can't you just leave the cones down? I think the one to O 'Hare is back. Yeah, no, we're almost.

3:12:55PFT Commenter:That one's almost done. It's like done very, very soon.

3:12:58Doug Pederson:Like my, I have been super early to O 'Hare recently because. Yeah. Like a drive that once took me like 70 minutes now took me like 25.

3:13:08PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. But this sucks, Hank. We got to find you a new route.

3:13:11Doug Pederson:Yeah. Or a new house.

3:13:12PFT Commenter:Yeah. Or maybe like a jet pack. That'd be so. I think about the zip line, though.

3:13:18Doug Pederson:You live high up, right? Yeah, or like a wingsuit. Wingsuit would rock. Wingsuit, yeah. Jetpacker or wingsuit. Mm-hmm. Be so sick. The fan. You'd be the fan man. With a parachute?

3:13:29PFT Commenter:Yeah.

3:13:30Doug Pederson:Boba Fett, yeah.

3:13:31PFT Commenter:That'd be cool. That would be really cool. Love that. That'd be really cool. What about boating? There's no... No. You go on the lake and then down the Chicago River, and then you don't have to go through the bridges. You have to go under them. Yeah, I know. But you'll be good going under. Probably less traffic. Yeah. You go under the bridges, then you get in your car where you dock your boat. Bring my bike on the boat. Yeah.

3:13:57Doug Pederson:Yeah. Bike off.

3:13:58PFT Commenter:It might be faster.

3:13:59Doug Pederson:It'd be an adventure every day. Yeah. No, I don't know. It's purely just bitching. I won't continue to bitch, but it sucks. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, PFT. I guess a fire fest is that I forgot to give away tickets to the Colts game. I didn't realize it was a home game. So it's Raiders at Colts. I almost said that in the game time. Yeah, so it's Raiders at Colts. So real quick, what can we do with that? I was going to say, if you can't get tickets from PFT, you can buy them for$56. For free, Pete Carroll is the coach of the Raiders. He chews a lot of gum. Maybe the person that sends a picture to memes of them having the most gum in their mouth.

3:14:40Doug Pederson:What do you think, memes? I like that. Or just the biggest ball of gum that you can make. Biggest bubble. Aaron Boone Big bubble Aaron Boone's going to the Colts game Biggest bubble It's a bubble contest Biggest bubble So tweet at Pardon my meme And me And we'll figure out Who we're going to get the tickets to But it's free tickets To the Colts They're good Go to the Colts Just gum Just tweet your gum With a G With a G Make sure you Sounded like gum Specify Gum A gum bubble

3:15:08PFT Commenter:Do not send any pictures Of your mouth full of gum I had so much pictures of shit last time

3:15:12Doug Pederson:How much gum can you fit in your mouth Send it to me

3:15:15Dan Katz:When I was a very little kid, I used to call my penis my bubble.

3:15:21Doug Pederson:So that when you kept saying that, you just kept saying the biggest bubble. I just kept thinking that.

3:15:29Dan Katz:Oh, man.

3:15:31PFT Commenter:It's a bubble.

3:15:33Doug Pederson:My real fire fest of the week is I've been thinking about redoing my office room that I have, where I have my computer, my flight simulator, and my amps and guitars and all that shit. I've been thinking about doing that ever since I moved in pretty much. Actually, you know what? I was happy with it. And then Hank came to visit the first week I moved in. And he just started laughing at my office. That's not. That is so false. No, that is 100 % true. You're like, look at the size of that desk. The desk is hilarious. It's a stupid big desk. I did not say it's a stupid big desk. I put blood, sweat, and tears in that desk.

3:16:06Doug Pederson:I built that desk on the screen. From like the 1700s in his office. That's not true. It's cool. It's false. It's funny. It's objectively funny. It's very PFT. It's a brand new desk. It's a brand new desk. I built it on a live stream during COVID, so people know that it's new. Are you keeping the desk? It's big. Well, I guess I have to get rid of it because every time I look at it, I think about Hank. This was also three years ago, so don't put this on me. Well, I've been wanting to switch it up, and I'm doing other stuff in the room.

3:16:34PFT Commenter:Don't let them bully it out of you. This is like Yans has tried to bully because I joined a spit and chiclet stream once, and I have, you guys know the background of my downstairs. I have that futon. Yeah. And it was an expensive futon, and they started calling it Louis Futon. Yeah. And they were like, that's the lamest thing ever, and I almost got rid of it. Don't let him do that. I won't do it.

3:16:56Doug Pederson:I won't let him do it.

3:16:56PFT Commenter:Shout out Yans, by the way. We're going to put up a clock for his birthday.

3:16:59Doug Pederson:I do look at the desk, and I think to myself, yeah, the desk is bulky. It takes up most of the room. And that's a room that I also have a flight simulator chair set up in as my normal computer chair now, which you can walk into that room and be like, a three-year-old lives here. So I'm redoing some of the stuff, getting rid of - So you see the wall, then you're like a 75-year-old woman lives here. Yeah, the wine mom. The wine mom lives in the back. But part of this process is I want to get rid of all the guitars that are on the floor, on the stands, so I bought a wall-mounted guitar rack so I can hang up all the guitars on the wall.

3:17:32PFT Commenter:That's cool.

3:17:33Doug Pederson:It is cool. And then I tried to install it myself. And I'm not a mounting guy. i learned that i learned that very quickly i tried it's like find the studs i'm like i don't i don't know have any we're not mounting i was like i was like tapping on the wall is like i

3:17:48Dan Katz:think this is a stud and then i got the drill out and i was i do that yo that's because i looked up

3:17:55Doug Pederson:online how to find studs in your wall and stud finder yeah if you have a stud finder but no i saw a couple youtube videos that were like if you tap you listen for the hollow sound you can do it Yeah, you can do it. I've tapped a wall before in front of a stud. Yeah, you can do it. So I tried doing that. I drilled in two holes, learned quickly that this job was not for me.

3:18:13PFT Commenter:Yeah.

3:18:14Doug Pederson:And then I just had another man come to my house. Have to. And drill into my wall.

3:18:17PFT Commenter:Pass rabbit.

3:18:18Doug Pederson:But now I'm looking around the room, and I watched him do the mounting, and I thought to myself, okay, now I get it. So I've got some other frames I want to hang out, so I'm going to try to mount those myself. I'm sure that within the next two weeks, I'll just call a different guy to fix all the holes that I put in my wall. but yeah there's a pretty emasculating calling another man and being like hey can i pay you money to come into my house no you got to look past that and use my tools yeah i i i got over

3:18:44PFT Commenter:that uh because i yeah there's a moment where you have to get over that i got over that when uh i did a task rabbit for a guy to come and build uh my firstborn's crib yeah i was just like because I was like, it's going to take me like four hours. I'm going to be so frustrated. I'm going to lose a piece. Or I could watch the football games on a Saturday or whatever it was. And I think it was basketball. It was like, you could just build it and I'll pay you money.

3:19:12Doug Pederson:Yeah. No, it was way easier doing it that way.

3:19:14PFT Commenter:Yeah. But I'm going to try. Yeah. I got to try. All right. My Fire Fest. I really don't know what to do after winning the 50-50 raffle. Actually, that's actually a reverse Fire Fest for you. is like you should never get the lottery ball because then you won't know what to do. Okay, he's still mad at me.

3:19:33Doug Pederson:I could be the 50-50 guy now.

3:19:35PFT Commenter:You could. You should never get that either. Yeah, you could. But it really does like it was, I'll never get the high of what I had. Chasing the dragon. I had the moment of figuring it out and then putting out the video and then seeing the love and support. I wish I could bottle that up.

3:19:54Doug Pederson:is there a world where you think you've possibly won before and didn't take absolutely no i've

3:19:59PFT Commenter:checked every ticket a million times over and over not even not even close to i once was like

3:20:06Doug Pederson:a hundred numbers away there have definitely been sometimes i've played 50 50s and just never

3:20:12PFT Commenter:checked i'm like well i obviously didn't win yeah also shout out the guys who in 2015 bought the tickets right after me in the bleachers and then won in my face i finally got my laugh back because then they made me take a picture with them, and that sucked. There's like a picture out there of that. Also, I found out this week that I'm washed because I went to all three Cubs games, and I'm spent, and also I tried to drink beers, and after like two beers, I was just tired. Yeah. Two beers is a death sentence. Yeah, I'm washed. I wish I wasn't washed. I'm going to try to maybe get it up for one game and we don't have to record.

3:20:48PFT Commenter:We did have to record on two of the nights. Let's get Philly's Cubs and LCS. And get fucking blasted. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If Philly's Cubs. What was that? Fuck that. That would be great for the show. It would be great for the show, but no. Max, you will get to go with me for every non-elimination game. We'd probably have to stream an elimination game. Yeah. Let's get Philly's Cubs. Yeah. God, people would be so mad at me in my seats with Max just screaming. Yeah. I would be so pissed at me.

3:21:19Doug Pederson:I would be a good boy.

3:21:20PFT Commenter:No, I wouldn't. No, you wouldn't. No, you would not. Oh, and it's right next to the Phillies dugout. Yeah. You'd be a rascal. Yeah. Yeah. I did, by the way, PFD, remember we talked on Tuesday about how you become best friends with the guys around you? The guys in front of me tonight were cool guys, a little heavy on the high fives. I wasn't able to high five my own friends. Yeah. That was all out of high fives.

3:21:45Doug Pederson:It took all my high fives. When you hit that golden ratio where you high five at all the right parts, that's a bond that will never be broken.

3:21:52PFT Commenter:PSA to everyone out there, you got to let the people high five who they're with first before you try to high five cross rows. And are we doing like singles? What do you mean? Like high fives for like... There was one guy who was very pumped up. I mean, I loved how pumped up he was, but I just wanted to high five my friend Dave, and I was with Eddie and Danny Conrad, and I wanted to high five them, and there were some times where I was just all out of high fives. Because it's like, you know when you can high five a moment, but then the moment after about four seconds you're like all right we're done with high fives yeah it's like when you're and i would do and they you greet your neighbor i'd hit everyone

3:22:28Doug Pederson:basically just go the people next to you they all got me and then i would turn i'm just like

3:22:32PFT Commenter:yeah we are we already did our high fives yeah you have none left for you you got one guy from

3:22:36Doug Pederson:like three rows back be like hey peace be peace be with you but no it was they were good guys they

3:22:41PFT Commenter:were fucking they were heckling they were they were having a grand old time getting energy going I feel like we got to heal. We got to heal right now. Well, I mean, Zach, why don't you do your fire fest? And then memes, why don't you just get the ball? Get the lottery ball. This would be the greatest. You realize that you have an opportunity to do something very special in this show tonight. Let's do a couple tonight. We'll do a couple. No. Two. Two. Two is fit. How about three? Three for three. Three for three. Yeah. But memes, you do realize that if you get it tonight, you're all the way back.

3:23:18PFT Commenter:They might even rehire you on the Jets Madden stream.

3:23:24Doug Pederson:I disagree.

3:23:25PFT Commenter:What do you mean?

3:23:28Doug Pederson:I just disagree. I think it would be bad to get it. No, if you got tonight, it would kind of cuck Big Cat.

3:23:35PFT Commenter:It would absolutely cuck me, and I would love for you to cuck me. You're saying you don't want to get it? He won$100 ,000 and donated to charity.

3:23:41Doug Pederson:I'm getting a lottery ball You can donate that to charity We will give this machine to the Lost Boys

3:23:47PFT Commenter:I won 50 Can't we do that? What would they do with that? We'll sell it and donate the proceeds There you go Once Memes gets this We are done with this lottery ball machine Getting a new one Memes don't take it out on the Lost Boys It's a great charity Okay

3:24:12PFT Commenter:All right, Zach, Fyre Fest.

3:24:14Doug Pederson:My Fyre Fest of the week is just, this booth might not be a weight loss challenge booth.

3:24:23PFT Commenter:It's not looking good. What are we at? Have we gone the wrong direction? The conversation at the desk earlier. Was that today or yesterday?

3:24:31Doug Pederson:It was a few days. They were just doing a round robin. What did you guys start at? All right, so the first couple weeks, we were kind of on fire. What was the opening number? I don't know. Don't worry about it. You guys were trying to lose 60 pounds. You lost 20 in like 12 days, right? Yeah, we were cooking. All right, so you're down 20. We were down 21 a week ago. Yeah.

3:24:53PFT Commenter:Okay, and what are you doing right now?

3:24:55Doug Pederson:I didn't even get on the scale.

3:25:00Doug Pederson:The travel fucked me. Like I had a day on Saturday where I got two hours of sleep, drove for two hours, worked all day until three, and then had to go to work the next day. And it fucked my entire week. Yeah, of course. That's fair. It fucked my entire week. That's fair. Like I had no motivation to do anything. Yeah. You should have just slept in. Yeah.

3:25:19PFT Commenter:You should have missed your flight. So where are you guys at? So we're down 10 without Max's number. So you might be down even less? Yes.

3:25:30Dan Katz:Not might be. We are for sure down less. Where's the scale?

3:25:34PFT Commenter:Yeah, go get on the scale right now.

3:25:36Dan Katz:No, everyone has their own scale.

3:25:37PFT Commenter:All right, so you're down 21, and you're probably down five now?

3:25:41Doug Pederson:Yeah, probably.

3:25:43PFT Commenter:Gained back 16. That's fine. You're still down.

3:25:46Doug Pederson:Yeah. It's getting so bad we're reporting with decimals. We're trying to hold on to the last little sliver of, well, it's not another full six pounds. It's just 5.6. I got to stick a needle in my stomach.

3:25:57PFT Commenter:What exactly? So, Zach, did you put some weight back on?

3:26:01Doug Pederson:I'm up like a 5.5 for the week. I had a bad dinner last night. I didn't think about the weigh-in.

3:26:08PFT Commenter:What did you have for dinner?

3:26:10Doug Pederson:This is going to sound worse than it is. But to set the tone, I left my apartment to go return some jeans. Because they tried to hit me with a restock fee. Not important. I'm rambling. Sorry about that. No, no, no.

3:26:22PFT Commenter:What are the restock fee?

3:26:24Doug Pederson:Levi was saying$27 restock fee. Not cool. So I was like, I'll go to the store. I'll go in person. I go to return. I'm like, all right, I'm here. Let me try some jeans on. Didn't work out. I'm like, all right, I'll just be a sweatpants guy this winter. So I'm going to eat a little bit.

3:26:39PFT Commenter:Wait, so trying on jeans basically made you give up your diet? Yeah, 100%.

3:26:44Doug Pederson:Like after the fourth pair doesn't fit. I don't know about you guys. When you're trying on a bunch of clothes, you start sweating. And you're like, this is miserable. I want to get out of here. You know where this will never happen is Muggsy.

3:26:52PFT Commenter:Yeah. Muggsy. Muggsy's got the best jeans. We'll get you some Muggsy. Yeah.

3:26:56Doug Pederson:Tech, that's good to know. I appreciate the pro tip.

3:26:58PFT Commenter:We'll actually make a video of you trying on some Muggsy's and you'll look great.

3:27:02Doug Pederson:So I was in an area I've never frequented before, a new area in the city. I don't quite remember where I was at, but I've unseen territory before. I've seen a pizza place. I was like, this pizza looks pretty good. So I just did two single slices. I did like a meatlover situation and like a white sauce slice. It was good. But then across the street, there was an ice cream shop that had a line out the door. And you could see that from inside the pizza place. so i'm thinking if there's a lot if there's a physical line this late at night for ice cream this place is going to rip i have to get in here get in there they didn't have waffle cones kind of a bummer did like a little three scoop trio situation which is which was good and then got into the uber i was like i should order dinner

3:27:49Doug Pederson:it is dinner time that's that was my thought process like i should order dinner ice cream you gotta go get dinner yeah because those were like fun little missions because they were like quests i hadn't been before hey side quests yeah exactly i'm glad we're on the same page here yeah uh i ordered the order the candy act to the house that was good but then it was like it's going to take 50 minutes to get to my apartment so i i got a like a little concrete situation at the small shavall and by the time the you got more ice cream i did because i needed time filler and it was like a reese's pie situation it was very good i'm after the diet challenge is over i'm gonna get it again but not anytime soon okay and then the dinner showed up

3:28:28PFT Commenter:and i had wait so you got the ice cream and so you timed it perfectly so then when you finish the ice cream your dinner showed up yes and then it was a pizza ice cream ice cream dinner also also by the way yeah yes caniac did you say the one the one thing that is that that we

3:28:45Doug Pederson:actually sponsor that was the one thing that you were like raising just dinner raising canes caniac yes raising canes canic was very really good very good it's the best did you have dessert Not after dinner, no. That was it. Okay, good. That's good. See, when we map it out like that, it sounds way worse than in the fluid motion of my evening.

3:29:03PFT Commenter:But honestly, Zach, none of that's your fault. It's the Gene's fault.

3:29:05Doug Pederson:I agree.

3:29:05PFT Commenter:The Gene sent you on a path that you couldn't recover from in that moment. Yeah. We go sweatpants. This is really -

3:29:11Doug Pederson:$27 restock fee. Might as well just inject 10 pounds of lard into my gut. Yeah, what do we do?

3:29:16PFT Commenter:They don't want you to eat healthy. No. They want to penalize you. I think the moral of the story here is, Max, you had a very relatable story there, too, because I'm the same way. If I get one minor setback, it's over.

3:29:26Doug Pederson:Yes, 100%. That's what happens.

3:29:28PFT Commenter:One minor setback, and it's like, if I get a little bit less sleep one night, I'm like, well, I'm not dieting. Burn it down to the ground. Can't do it. It's over. We'll start again next Monday. And then you obviously can't start it in the middle of the week.

3:29:44Doug Pederson:Yeah, we got fucked. Next week, we're next week. Gun day. We aim too high. We aim too high.

3:29:51PFT Commenter:We should have done.

3:29:52Doug Pederson:There's still time. 45-50. Isn't there still time?

3:29:55PFT Commenter:What was your goal?

3:29:56Doug Pederson:60 by when? It was 65. I think we're bringing it down to 60. By what? By Christmas.

3:30:04PFT Commenter:Oh, you got it. Lots of time. There's so much time. Halloween is coming.

3:30:08Doug Pederson:Are we in the trust tree? Let's just do it by next summer.

3:30:11PFT Commenter:Yeah, hard conversation. One of us promised to lose

3:30:14Doug Pederson:30 pounds. Yeah, that was me. That was bad. I'm the least. I have the least amount of weight loss.

3:30:19PFT Commenter:You signed yourself up for 30?

3:30:20Doug Pederson:Yeah, I have the least amount of weight loss. I traveled every weekend since this started. Traveling is...

3:30:25PFT Commenter:Traveling is death.

3:30:26Doug Pederson:We should have went lower. We should have went lower. Should have went lower. Just got to do PDs now.

3:30:29PFT Commenter:You guys are good.

3:30:30Doug Pederson:We should have done lower and then redone it.

3:30:33PFT Commenter:I believe in the booth. I believe in you boys. Yeah. We just got to get you some jeans. We got to get Max off the road. We got to get memes a lottery ball. And then we're good. Travel again this weekend. Number three. I think it was... Yeah, we should let memes have three. No, 23. Memes has got it. All right, we're going to do three of them. Yep, 33.

3:30:54Doug Pederson:I'm going to go 15. Fun fact, most number one winner of the lottery ball. Fun fact, that wasn't fun at all. You can find that out if you watch PMTV. That comes out. Very fun fact. Yeah, I gave a presentation. I'm going to go 50. Memes refused to participate in that presentation.

3:31:11PFT Commenter:I'm going to go 50 for the 50-50 raffle that I won.

3:31:14Doug Pederson:I'll go 61. 99.

3:31:19PFT Commenter:19. 76

3:31:21Doug Pederson:I regret choosing 3 We'll have to

3:31:26PFT Commenter:Tase them You get 3

3:31:29Dan Katz:I'm calling the cops

3:31:31PFT Commenter:What number do you have memes?

3:31:33Dan Katz:23

3:31:39PFT Commenter:26 26 Should we go 2 more memes?

3:31:46Doug Pederson:2 more 2 more

3:31:48PFT Commenter:All right. I think everyone should stick with their number. Memes is allowed to switch. Yeah, everyone stick with their number. Memes, do you want to switch? Or do you want to? You have the only opportunity to switch. You can trade with anyone you want. All right. I have 50. I'll go with 29. You don't want to trade three? You don't want to trade to three? Staring at Big Dumper.

3:32:05Doug Pederson:You don't want to trade to three? No. You want to trade 15? Can Hank and I trade? Nope. Trades are allowed. Numbers changes aren't. Hank, what did you have? 15. Yeah, I'll trade. All right. I got three. I have 15. See, Hank is not scared of the wrath of memes. I can't believe you unfollowed me for so long.

3:32:25PFT Commenter:Yeah, he's not even going to see anything I tweet anyway.

3:32:27Doug Pederson:Yeah, I think it was about the Carl Anthony talent.

3:32:30PFT Commenter:It's good that our social media guy doesn't follow any of us. That was so long ago.

3:32:33Doug Pederson:That was last summer.

3:32:35PFT Commenter:62. 62. All right, last one.

3:32:38Doug Pederson:It was last October.

3:32:40PFT Commenter:Last October. You haven't followed Max for a year. Would anyone like to trade 50 with me? Who has three?

3:32:48Doug Pederson:Hank has three. Hank. Oh, you want three? You want 50? I'll do 50. I'll take three. All right, I'll take three.

3:32:55PFT Commenter:I just took three.

3:32:57Doug Pederson:No, I took it. Oh. You said I took three. You're officially taking three. I'm taking it.

3:33:01PFT Commenter:All right. So what did you have? I'll take 29. Yeah, 29.

3:33:04Doug Pederson:Yeah, 29 is now available. You want 29, PFC? I have 15. All right. I'll trade you 15 for 29.

3:33:10Dan Katz:23 is the one that I picked the first time.

3:33:13Doug Pederson:All right, I have 29. I'll trade you. Yeah. So you have 15 now. I have 29. Yeah. And I have 50. Yeah.

3:33:18PFT Commenter:You want to trade back?

3:33:20Doug Pederson:Yeah.

3:33:20Dan Katz:You just want to.

3:33:21PFT Commenter:All right. I'll take 50. Hank has 15. Nice. He has 29.

3:33:26Dan Katz:What about 23? Would you like it? Yeah. You could take it. It would be. Someone has picked it before. I would like to take 23.

3:33:32PFT Commenter:All right. You can take 23.

3:33:36Doug Pederson:Memes, what do you have?

3:33:38Dan Katz:Three.

3:33:39Doug Pederson:Come on, Memes. You got this.

3:33:41Dan Katz:Three would be awesome.

3:33:41Doug Pederson:Three would be awesome.

3:33:42PFT Commenter:Come on, Memes. You want to come press the button, Memes?

3:33:44Doug Pederson:The people would say that it's fake if it came out as three. The people would say it was fake. Fuck. Nope.

3:33:54PFT Commenter:46. Oh.

3:33:56Doug Pederson:I thought something was going to happen. I had a feeling something was going to happen. What was it? I think one more.

3:34:00PFT Commenter:46. You want to do one more? Yeah. Everyone has to stay. Everyone has to stay.

3:34:05Doug Pederson:I have 23.

3:34:06PFT Commenter:Last one.

3:34:07Doug Pederson:Can I give mine to memes? No. These all count. These all count. These all count. All right. I tried. I tried to give it to you. So I was gonna get it right here. I'll take a 29 part of my balls guy needs to account for all of these So we rack up memes is yeah

3:34:23PFT Commenter:Means what number do you have three? Give me three. No, come on me boobs Nope

3:34:32Doug Pederson:As soon as there's two digits

3:34:35PFT Commenter:19 it wasn't meant to be memes Love you guys 19. Love you me.

3:34:40Dan Katz:Oh, oh no jack I got it. No. No.

3:34:44PFT Commenter:That's his first time.

3:34:48PFT Commenter:Oh, no. Oh, no. He's the last person to get it except memes. Oh, no. Oh, my God, Jack. Jack. We were waiting for the thing to happen, and then the thing happened. Wiper. Jack on the back. Jack, you just got the number. 19? You picked 19? I did. I did, yeah. He had to speak up. He's like, wait, that's my number. I'm a little nervous. Oh, my God. Jack, how did you do it? I don't know. So, wait. Just so we're clear. Hank, you've gotten it, right?

3:35:22Doug Pederson:Max ran out of the booth. He's now hiding from memes in the studio.

3:35:26PFT Commenter:Hank, you've gotten it. PFT, you've gotten it, right?

3:35:28Doug Pederson:I've gotten it a couple times, yeah.

3:35:29PFT Commenter:I've gotten it. Shane, have you gotten it? Yes. Zach, have you gotten it?

3:35:37Doug Pederson:Yes, sir.

3:35:38PFT Commenter:Pug, you've gotten it. 99 Pug. Max Max is saying yes and I've gotten it And Jack you just got it

3:35:47Doug Pederson:Yes For the first time Yes

3:35:53Doug Pederson:Memes This show is better with Billy and Jake

3:35:59Doug Pederson:Oh Jack's only played 121 times

3:36:02PFT Commenter:Oh no We I did I gotta say Hat tipped to the lottery ball machine because we all were expecting something to happen. I did not expect that. No. I did not see that coming. I was about to leave. Oh, my God. That's incredible. Hey, congrats, Jack. Congrats, Jack. You want to take a picture with the ball? Jack, come take a picture with the ball. Jack, get in here. Jack from the back. Come take a picture. He's terrified of memes right now. Zach, he's so scared. You have the taser. Zach, I see him. take a picture yeah get it get with the machine get with the machine get with the machine this is your moment dude he's never done this before this is so huge jack congratulations yeah yeah well done well done jack how did you how did you do it yeah he just picked it he said bryce underwood he just picked it wow okay what a story uh see everyone on monday maybe yeah love you guys Thank you.

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