Dricus Du Plessis, Dana White, And a Special Guest + The Mt Rushmore Of Unsexy Things That Are Sexy Plus Listener Submitted Football Takes

11:34PFT Commenter:he's hurt yeah okay yeah even though he's he's a flawed candidate yep uh okay so yeah we had that I'm trying to think of what else. Oh, you know what? Let's do – I want to do two things. One, I want to get you guys excited about a weekend. This is always fun. We did this a couple weeks ago. Oh, yeah.

11:50Big Cat:I was looking at some of the college football weekends coming up.

11:52PFT Commenter:November 1st. I want to just throw this out there for you guys. November 1st. November 1st, we have Arizona State at Iowa State. Florida at Georgia. Great. That's a neutral site. Miami at SMU. Both teams are going to be good. Oklahoma Tennessee Ohio State Penn State South Carolina Ole Miss Texas Tech Kansas State that's going to be a great weekend don't ask me to do nothing that weekend nothing we got any other

12:21Big Cat:weekends you like I was just looking at all of them they're all I just like looking at weekends

12:25PFT Commenter:right now it's fun to look at them it's fun to be like hey I'm out do not do do not expect me to do a goddamn thing on November 11th it's also November 1st it's also important yeah November 11th I

12:36Big Cat:won't do anything out of respect for the truth that's true but it's always fun to look at those weekends and then remind yourself that the weekends that look bad those are actually going to end up

12:44PFT Commenter:being the best weekends oh yeah oh yeah and the other thing i wanted to do just to get us excited why don't we do why don't we everyone throw out a future hank threw out uh his bold proclamation that the patriots are going to be better than every other team on this podcast let's do a future let's get those are available in the uh drafting sportsbook as well oh you put them up yeah all All right, let's all pick a future. Stell Blue Coffee's new can lattes are here. Crafted with 100 % Colombian coffee, each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors, espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream.

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13:53PFT Commenter:You want me to start? I'll start. Go for it. I think the Tampa Bay Bucs minus 110 to win the NFC South is a good bet. I don't hate that. I like their offense a lot. I know Tristan Wirfs is out for probably four weeks, but he'll be back. I just think I might actually also say we're not doing these futures yet, but Baker MVP, maybe.

14:19Big Cat:Maybe. Maybe their 400-pound defensive tackle be playing.

14:22PFT Commenter:Yeah. Actually, I do want to say something real quick about the MVP. I think we all have to bet Joe Burrow MVP because I've already noticed that the narrative has begun.

14:30Big Cat:Of Joe Burrow for MVP? Yes. Who should the MVP should have already been?

14:34PFT Commenter:Because last year he was very good. They didn't make the playoffs. I think that we should do that because I think the narrative has already started that this is the year he's going to win MVP.

14:45Big Cat:Who will the MVP will have been? Will have been. Dukes. Shout out Dukes.

14:48PFT Commenter:All right, so that's my pick.

14:50Big Cat:I would like to take the 10-8 Buccaneers to win the conference at plus 1 ,300.

14:55PFT Commenter:Whoa. You one-upped me. We're feeling the same. You big dog me. No, they just go a little further. You big dog me. No, not at all. Not at all. I love that. I'm confident in the boys. Hey, don't be afraid to big dog me. I'm just confident in the boys.

15:07Big Cat:Okay. PFT? This is going to go against what you guys said a little bit. Maybe. Atlanta Falcons to make the playoffs. Okay. No, they can do that. Plus 155.

15:18PFT Commenter:Yeah, they can still do that.

15:18Big Cat:I like that better than even money. I don't know. Call me crazy. I like the Falcons. I like their offense. I think I'm higher on Pinnocks than most people. Okay.

15:27PFT Commenter:Hank? I'm going to go with the New England Patriots. Mike Vrabel, Josh McDaniels, Drake May, Stefan Diggs, Lucy off the 2C to make the playoffs, plus 120.

15:40Dana White:Okay. Okay. Max? I'm also taking the Patriots. I'm going to put my money where my mouth is. They put it in the DraftKings Sportsbook just the part of my take. Which team on part of my take will have the most wins? Now, is this a case of you saying something and then having to defend it more?

15:56Big Cat:No. And that's where you're digging it further? I believe it even more.

15:58PFT Commenter:So what are the odds for them to have the most wins on the podcast? I believe, let me just double check, the Patriots are plus 600. Okay. Eagles plus 225. Commanders plus 475. Bucs plus 475. Chargers plus 500. Bears plus 800. Jets plus 3 ,000. Oh, you didn't have to laugh before that. It's funny. It's funny. It's all triple digits, and then it's just like. That was not. That was not nice. Look at Meems is laughing. That was not. No, he's laughing. He's kind of crying.

16:24Big Cat:He's totally crying. He's laughing because he's thinking about ways he's going to kill you. Yeah. No, he's laughing.

16:30PFT Commenter:Max. Such a mean graphic. Max memes. Finish us off. What do you got? I'm going to do, you know, Eagles is too easy. You don't want to be chalky. I'm going to do Jags 3-1 to win the AFC South. Whoa. Go back to the well. Whoa. One more year of believing in the Jags. We'll see what Liam Cohn's done. Trevor Lawrence was on the show. He got me fired up. Jags 3-1.

16:56Big Cat:Hank didn't like that Liam Cohen. Didn't like the Liam Cohen line at all. Hank hates everyone that we talk to. He was a good guest. Another guest we had on the show who played for him made a comment that stuck with me more.

17:10PFT Commenter:Which was? Baker. Saying? He was like we'll see how he is as a coordinator. As a head coach. Do you think he's a little upset that he left the Buccaneers and the way that he left them? Or do you think maybe they were friends and he was busting his balls. I don't know. It was just the way he said it. It made me do a double take. Okay. Thank you for listening to the show. You're welcome. I love the show. AWL. I'll finish this off.

17:34Big Cat:Baltimore Ravens plus 600 to win the Super Bowl. Whoa. I think this is finally the year Lamar gets over the hump. Ravens get back.

17:41PFT Commenter:Okay. It's spicy. He's got two humps to get over.

17:45Big Cat:That's true.

17:47PFT Commenter:He's got to win the AFC and then he's got to win the Super Bowl. I'm not talking about both his butt cheeks.

17:51Big Cat:No. Their defense It's got a lot better. I just think this is the year. It's a Ravens free train to the Super Bowl.

17:57PFT Commenter:Okay. Ravens free train. I like the sound of that. I got breaking moves. I got breaking moves.

18:08PFT Commenter:Shohei Otani hit into a triple play. Can't win an MVP like that. Can you?

18:14Big Cat:That's an insane thing. That's a highlight that's going to stick with him, too. Can't win. That might be the start of his Hall of Fame induction. Did he just get doubled up? What? It wasn't like a 6-5-4-3.

18:27PFT Commenter:No, he just hit a line drive. The shortstop was basically standing over the baggie. The line drive to the shortstop. Shortstop doubled up the guy on second, then through to first.

18:37Big Cat:We're going to talk about his lawsuit in a little bit. I did read an article on the plane right over here after we recorded the first part of the show. So I know a little bit more about what he's being sued for.

18:48PFT Commenter:Okay.

18:48Big Cat:So there was a real estate deal in Hawaii. There was a guy that was involved in it. They wanted to get Shohei involved because if Shohei invests in property on this island, then boom, all of a sudden it opens up for Japanese tourists to invest in. We've done that before. Buy houses, things like that. With Shohei, apparently his representative made some demands, including they didn't like one of the guys that was involved in the deal, allegedly edged that guy out of the deal. Now that guy's mad, and he's suing Shohei.

19:17PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah, you can't sue for that.

19:19Big Cat:Yeah, so. That's how deals are done. Show he's a double threat guy. He does gambling and real estate fraud. Triple threat.

19:26PFT Commenter:And it's in a triple place. Can't win an MVP that way. Max, is Leonard Dickerson okay? Yes, he is. Okay. He is hopeful to be back by week one.

19:38Big Cat:Meniscus, right? Yeah. You guys have got a great staff in Philly. Different programs.

19:45PFT Commenter:I would prefer if you had socks on. I just looked down and saw a lot of a lot of toes. Yeah, no, Landon Dickerson. He's going to he's a he's a he's an absolute. I can't see his feet, which I'm happy. He's just toes. He's just toes out for the boys. I mean, we were waiting here for five fucking hours. So we went in the pool. All right. I didn't want to put wet. I didn't want to put wet socks on. Multiple people in that pool. I mean, some labs. Me and me, we're chilling.

20:22Big Cat:Max, is this the injury? Does he have to wear a knee brace to the club? I would be happy if he did. Keep that thing safe.

20:31PFT Commenter:Keep that as safe as it could be? You went through a roller coaster yesterday with your not understanding meniscus. I didn't know that J.J. McCarthy sat out the entire year for a meniscus. I thought meniscus was something that you could easily just play through.

20:45Big Cat:Don't you remember the Joel Embiid? Do you want to shave it down? Yeah, Dwayne Wade. Yeah, do you want to do the short repair or the long repair?

20:52PFT Commenter:Dwayne Wade has no – Dwayne Wade is like bone on bone on his knee because he just always did the – he never did the full surgery. He always just did like the shave it down. Yeah, I mean, yeah, and he never missed a full year for his meniscus. I guess last year he missed most of the – I don't know. I hear – when there's words like ACL and Achilles and meniscus going out, Meniscus is by far the best of the three Yeah, yeah, yeah I'd agree with that You're right on that So he's good Yeah, no, he's fine He's fine Minor, minor procedure Okay Week to week The last thing I had before We're back in studio We got Taylor Swift Did we mention we have Taylor Swift on this podcast today?

21:39PFT Commenter:Fucking

21:39Big Cat:And Taylor told us some crazy stuff about NFL players that Taylor enjoys his podcast that Taylor listens to a lot, gave us a sneak peek on what Taylor's got coming up in the near future. So I'm very excited.

21:54PFT Commenter:So the last thing I had was, did you guys see Michael Porter Jr. do a podcast and he basically was like, I'm addicted to sex? He did the Meek Mill. He did the Meek Mill. And he also kind of like threw his brother under the bus there. He said, everybody has different vices. Everybody has different things they struggle with that can go with people who struggle from alcohol, all people that struggle with drugs you know for example my brother struggled with gambling my vice has always come in the form of women and when i'm far from god and i'm not my word i'm not praying i'm not prior prioritizing him like that seems to be the place the devil gets me is in the space of women and uh basically saying his his his brother couldn't get checks and also he gets a shitload

22:36Big Cat:of checks he gets so much checks i mean that's checks to to come out as a my vice's women is just a big time brag who said it michael poor jr or meek mill when i gotta go around me i'm fucking her twice a day lol ask some of your favorites pussy don't control me but it's like

22:52PFT Commenter:a high one love to the gay people but that juice but that juicy pussy do it for me i done ran red

23:00Big Cat:lights to get that feeling y 'all weird on here like devils lol it reminds me of tiger woods

23:06PFT Commenter:having to do a press conference saying he's a sex addict in front of his mom yeah that was a crazy

23:10Big Cat:one you remember when mike piazza gave a press conference to say that he was straight he was

23:14PFT Commenter:not gay yeah yeah he had to come out and say hey that rocks i'm straight straight as could be yeah just so you know stop asking just so you know don't print it in the papers i've never been gay my dick my dick loves that sweet pussy lol uh okay uh we got a lot of show back in studio so let's kick it to ourselves hey illinois still blue coffees new canned lattes are here and in a store near you. Crafted with 100 % Colombian coffee, each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors, espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream. Whether you're braving your morning commute or chasing your pup, Stelblue cans are for those always on the go and for those who care.

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25:11PFT Commenter:And get yourself hydrated with Body Armor Flash IV. They're absolutely delicious. They will change your day for the better. Okay, hot seat, cool throne. Henry. Yeah. No more Wally Pip. People were mad that we made Zach say the Wally Pip line. I thought it was funny because it's not. He so didn't want to say it. Yeah. You're back. You didn't think it was funny. No, it wasn't unfunny. I didn't think it was like the funniest thing.

25:40Big Cat:No one said it was the funniest. Did he mess up your ass groove on a couch? No, no, it's good. You've been working on that groove for a while.

25:47PFT Commenter:He did bury a bunch of farts in there. It's fine. I mean, again, guest here too. It's not just my, it's not my couch. Oh, it's your couch.

25:54Big Cat:It's your couch. It's Hank's couch. It's the studio couch. Okay. What do you think about the countdown to your 40th birthday? Well, it's blank. That was actually going to be one of my hot seats. It's me. Oh, okay. Because we put up these new clocks in the studio and the countdown to my 40th birthday It has nothing on it, which means I'm just going to die before I'm 40, I think. No. Is that what that means, Zach? No. Molly Pip? So he's got so much more life to live until 40. We've got to get two more additional clocks. Yeah. Because he's got thousands and thousands of days before 40.

26:21PFT Commenter:So that clock doesn't hold all the days. So we're going to get three clocks. So it's like one clock will be all three clocks will have like$9.99. One will count down. And then when that one's done, it will go to the next one. Can I give a critique? Yeah. As a football, you know, we're a football podcast. We love football. The countdown to the Super Bowl is kind of a depressing clock.

26:40Big Cat:Why? Because it means football's over. But then there's going to be another clock that is the start. We've got to get a different clock that has the countdown to the start of the next season. You guys are not going to like that clock as it gets down below 100 days. But if we have another clock that counts down to the kickoff for next year before we get to the Super Bowl, then that's fine. Then we've got a clock.

26:56PFT Commenter:That will be the one. So right now it's countdown to this season. As soon as this season starts, it will be countdown to next season, and we have the countdown to the next game. So right now we have four clocks. for people who aren't watching. We have countdown to the next NFL game, which will change, which will be updated every single week. We have countdown to next season, so those two clocks are synced up right now. Great job syncing them up. We have countdown to Super Bowl, then we have countdown to Hank's 40th. I also want to add a clock behind PFT and I, maybe in the middle of us, and it's just going to say days since Max last got triggered, and so we'll be able to hit that live as he gets mad.

27:34PFT Commenter:And I don't, what do we think over under? how many days you think that ever will get to.

27:38Big Cat:I think at the maximum, what's the distance between Thursday night and Sunday night?

27:44PFT Commenter:It's like three days.

27:45Big Cat:Three days. I think we're going to have a three-day maximum on that. You don't have to have double digits on that one.

27:49PFT Commenter:No, we don't. That one could just... It'll get to double digits for sure. I guarantee you never. I'm going to be a better guy. No, you're a great guy. You're a great guy. And the best max is when you get upset.

28:02Big Cat:I also think we should do countdown to March Madness. Okay. That'll be good to have just when the Super Bowl clock runs out.

28:09PFT Commenter:Can I throw another one out there?

28:10Big Cat:Yeah.

28:10PFT Commenter:Countdown to the Masters?

28:11Big Cat:Yeah, I like that.

28:13PFT Commenter:What's that, Hank? You're a golf guy. Yeah, but we're a football podcast. This is football. Yeah, but this whole clock wall is just a countdown to everything. I just want the whole wall to be clocks. I think we should keep it to football. Okay. Okay. And your birthday. Your hot seat is your 40th. My hot seat was just me. No, I didn't like that as blank. That was a little bit ominous. Looking at the clocks running and then looking to count down to 40, it was just blank. Blank. You're never going to get there. Yeah. Didn't love that. Yeah, Max. Hank brings up a good point. Once we do get the countdown to Hank's 40th set, what happens if you do die up until 40?

28:56What would we do with that clock? What would you want us to do with that clock? Just throw it in my casket. I'll get buried with it. Should we just keep it stagnant of where it is or just blank? No, keep it going and then have a big party or something. On your 40th? Yeah.

29:12Big Cat:Oh, okay. Who would have wanted this? That sounds fun. All right. Two C for everybody. Yeah. And golfing. Yeah. I like that.

29:20PFT Commenter:And golfing. Listen, Hank, we would do a countdown to our 50th, but your 40th is going to come before our 50th, so it would be wrong.

29:27Big Cat:Yeah, we'll switch it up to our 50th after you turn 40. That's fine. So really, that clock is also a countdown to when that clock becomes a countdown to our 50th birthday. That's fun for you. Yeah.

29:38PFT Commenter:Okay. I like that. Okay. My other hot seat was college players Venmo transactions. Yeah, I had that. Yeah, me too. I don't think John Mateer did anything wrong. John Mateer. Great quarterback. Who decided to dig it up, but they went. And Venmo is an interesting, I don't know, it's not really a social media app, But like for whatever reason, the Venmo algorithm, it's really when you're really bored. Like it's only happened to me a few times when I've been like maybe taking a shit and I'm like, I have nothing else to do. And you go on Venmo and the feed will just show you people that you're not friends with.

30:10You don't even know. It's like maybe someone you're friends with from high school or like someone that's in your Facebook friends. And it's just showing you their transactions. And it's kind of weird being like, I don't, why do I know that this person that I, you know, was like in my college floor 12 years ago is like paying for utilities to this other person. like this is a bizarre thing to be looking at but someone went and found john matiers and arch mannings and there's you know then it just kind of started a tidal wave of people looking up their favorite players memo transactions uh john matiers just had a couple that were just sports gambling with parentheses like the game that he was game UCLA versus USC that could mean anything that

30:49PFT Commenter:could literally mean anything I don't know why people are jumping to conclude and then were the

30:53Big Cat:arch manning one's real i don't know if they're real or not all i know they kind of might have

30:57PFT Commenter:been photoshopped because it was like arch manning like zaza it said butt stuff poosh iisty nice hair cheated but now i think that's all one that said zaza also john material turning gay gay boy slapping some balls big fat cock again this could mean anything literally anything c-o-k-c

31:18Big Cat:Yeah, it's spelled. Now, the sports gambling ones. I feel like that is just a joke. Correct. Right. Like if you've used Venmo, you send your boys fake things all the time. For example, I looked up Max Delente's Venmo transactions. Oh, no. Back in 2019.

31:37PFT Commenter:How many of Jack McCarthy?

31:38Big Cat:No, this was this is pre Barstool. Max pre Barstool had had an open Venmo transaction page.

31:45PFT Commenter:By the way, that's the biggest story of this is like there's literally a button that you click that says private. You just go private. It's so easy. I'm nervous about what you're going to do. As you were having this conversation, I was like, fuck, I should probably leave it.

32:01Big Cat:You probably should. Okay, so what we've got here, I've got on December 3rd, 2019, it's just a tree. You got paid for a tree, Max. Oh, okay. That's fine. And then you charge somebody else on that same day for another tree. Sounds like you sold multiple trees. Wow. On that day. You're a big tree guy. And then on December 15th, you paid someone else for a tree. For a trick emoji. I used to do tree work in high school. So that could have been like my boss. Any question? Any ski trips? I don't see any ski trips on here. I see one that's just a beast. Yeah. That guy was probably being a beast. You paid somebody for a beast.

32:43Big Cat:you paid somebody for a bully you just go on bully okay uh jerry calls people bullies all the time that is true and then let's see there's another one you you got paid a lot of money for darts oh yeah me and my friends used to play used to play darts in our uh first apartment and charge each other money okay but the big takeaway is that you were you were buying selling a lot of trees back then on venmo yeah good for you i was a christmas tree salesman too you know how the game is sometimes you got to take it to vinbo it's a business you got a tree game is a business it is it's a business so uh i think that people like if you're sending somebody something that says sports gambling and the person is uh you know very clearly involved in college athletics you're

33:27PFT Commenter:fucking with that person or they're fucking with you right right this is it's it's crazy again it could mean quite literally anything the fact that people are taking this literal is nuts also john materials on my Heisman watch list.

33:41Big Cat:Completely irrelevant to us. Completely irrelevant.

33:44PFT Commenter:I just looked because I didn't realize that people have just been requesting money from me. Ben Huford said saw a really cool painting of some clowns for sale. I should have hit him up for that. Someone also said... People are just going to start Venmo requesting you. Yeah, but I don't even look at it, so I don't care. For me, Jordan Tufano said, for making me listen to Mincy Daily. That one I should have probably hit up. Yeah. Joe Orr said, mystery. That's a mystery.

34:18Big Cat:Yeah, I've got a bunch of outstanding Venmo requests on here. I think Hank still owes me$1 ,000 from one of them, but that's okay. Yeah, I owe you like$9 ,000, but we're getting that back next week.

34:30PFT Commenter:Okay. All right, good. Yeah, that was a funny story that was going on. I don't think anything's going to happen because how can you prove it?

34:38Big Cat:Yeah, I don't think that you can. I mean, the fact that he said sports gambling parentheses UCLA versus USC on the day that that game happened, that's going to be a tough one to defend for. Yeah. I don't know if the NCAA has a good sense of irony. My guess is that they don't, that their investigators don't get jokes. Yeah. But we'll see.

34:57PFT Commenter:Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. All right. What's your cool throne? My cool throne is Miles Garrett driving fast. Yeah. Yeah, Georgia Bulldog. Georgia Bulldog. He obviously got in a car accident in 2022, flipped his Porsche. Bad accident. And then he was sighted Saturday morning, I think coming back from their game after the plane landed, going 160 mile an hour. And the team is aware of the situation. Okay, I think this was his seventh time. That's the problem with having sick cars. You just want to go fast. You know what? I never thought of it that way, but it's the car's fault. It's really easy to go really fast.

35:37PFT Commenter:Right. Yeah. Like, too easy. He probably didn't know he was speeding. What's the update on your sick car? Are you getting another car? Are you getting a sick one? I want to. Okay.

35:47Big Cat:Can we blame Shador Sanders for this? Bad leadership? Yeah. Bad leadership. This is QB1 right now. Shador's fault. If Flacco was starting, he'd be going five miles an hour under the speed limit. Yeah. SEC speed. That's what he's got. But yeah, he's got to get like an old truck or something. Like a car that, you know, if it goes over like 60, it starts to like shake.

36:08PFT Commenter:Yeah. He should probably have these like new sick, you know, you just tap it and it goes 100 miles an hour. Right. You can also just get rides. Do you think that he maybe just says that? Well, so yes and no, because obviously you should, if you're like going out for a night, you should have a driver and security, whatever. I do love driving. Like I've always thought about that. like why aren't these guys just getting driven places if you're like dry if you're getting driven to work every day that kind of sucks i would like to drive yeah driving can be fun it can be good

36:39Big Cat:like release especially when you're driving home from work yeah it's nice to have that little separation i don't driving to work it's like good to like you know get in your own zone and and and

36:48PFT Commenter:focus yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't want to have a chauffeur around if i were a professional athlete no like again going out yes but like there's a there's a fly in here that's just been bothering me and it we don't it's that episode of breaking bad yeah this is a fly episode yeah okay yeah but

37:07Big Cat:you're you're right the car's fault you shouldn't speed 100 miles an hour 100 miles an hour is pretty dangerous especially if you do it all the time if you're doing it constantly you should not do that but i'd i'd rather be a defensive player doing it than if it was a quarterback if a quarterback is driving 100 miles an hour i'm like bad leadership bad teammate wait this is not qb

37:28PFT Commenter:it's like wearing your hat backwards didn't shidor get pulled over for the same thing no i don't think so i think shidor is uh clean as a whistle okay what was how fast was he going he was going like 120 he was going one oh yeah yeah you ever watch those videos the audubon okay so it just It scares the fuck out of me when they're going like 200 miles an hour. It's crazy. What if you hit a pothole? I don't think the Autobahn has potholes. You never know. Yeah. You never know. What if you hit a rock? Going 100 miles an hour is a problem, but also Georgia football has won a lot of games.

38:02Big Cat:So if Cleveland is taking on that mentality, then this could end up having them have a chance at the division. That's all I'm saying.

38:09PFT Commenter:Yeah.

38:10Big Cat:All right. Good hot seat.

38:11PFT Commenter:Cool throne, Hank.

38:11Big Cat:Thank you. Great job, Hank.

38:13PFT Commenter:Great job.

38:14Big Cat:Great job. So my hot seat was going to be John Matera, but I think we covered that. My cool throne is John Gruden, our colleague John Gruden. He has won a part of a lawsuit against the NFL. Nice. So this could go all the way to the Supreme Court if the NFL appeals it. That would be awesome. At the heart of it is Coach Gruden is saying that the NFL unfairly leaked his emails to various media sources. As part of, it was part of the Washington football team, Dan Snyder, toxic culture investigation. And then magically these emails from John Gruden, one of like 13 ,000 emails that they had, appeared in the Wall Street Journal.

38:56Big Cat:Then some more got leaked. I think Adam Schefter was involved. remember when Shafter got on TV he's like he made a clean sweep of insulting remarks against minorities and NFL commissioners because he made fun of John he made fun of Roger Goodell in one of the emails right that was released right so this could go all the way to the Supreme Court which would be awesome and if the Supreme Court loses that my guess is they're going to try to settle with John Gruden be like hey we don't want to go to discovery because then John Gruden and his legal team could get their hands on all these emails that the NFL had.

39:31Big Cat:Everything. Which the NFL desperately does not want. They'll probably try to settle it but if they don't then it goes to arbitration and if John Gruden wants to burn the whole thing down he can burn the whole thing down. If he wants to. So, looks like the rabbit's got the gun, Commissioner Godot. Let's go. Or you could just let John Gruden coach again.

39:49PFT Commenter:That would be awesome.

39:50Big Cat:That would be awesome.

39:50PFT Commenter:He said that he recently said he would love to coach in the SEC.

39:53Big Cat:I think we're all rooting for that but But we should have Florio on at some point because we don't really know what we're talking about when it comes to these legal cases. Hell no. And Florio is all over this one. This is like his wet dream. My other cool throne is my golf swing because I think I'm back. Let's go. I think I'm back. You know how when I talked to you, Hank, I said I was once I fixed something, another part of my swing broke. Well, I just decided that yesterday I was just going to step up and I was going to hit the fucking ball. HFB. That's what I'm saying. Just hit the fucking ball.

40:25Big Cat:Don't think about anything. I was thinking about too much stuff. And I'm confident in my ability. Clear your mind. I'm confident in my ability. I'm locked in. I'm going to bring back$250 ,000. Woo! And we're going to have a big Toosie party. Woo! Right, Hank? Yep. Big Toosie party. Hell yes. The biggest. Yeah. Hell yes. And then I'm going to owe somebody$25 ,000. Who's that? Somebody who bought a t-shirt. Oh, yeah. I owe them$25 ,000. Yeah, that's right. I'm excited about the Internet Invitational this week, though. The way I see it, if I play my best, I should be the best of the worst golfers there.

40:59Big Cat:That's a big place to be. The best of the worst is a great spot to be in.

41:02PFT Commenter:That's a great spot to be in. All right. My hot seat is the Indianapolis Colts. Did you guys see the pretzel they debuted? We're in new menu items in the NFL for the preseason games, but they did a pretzel that just looks like a giant poop. It's supposed to be -

41:19Big Cat:The shoe.

41:20PFT Commenter:It's the shoe, but it's just a turd.

41:23Big Cat:For the shoe, for the poo.

41:27PFT Commenter:Our cults. This is our cults. This is our team.

41:30Big Cat:I would eat that pretzel.

41:31PFT Commenter:Oh, dude. I would eat it in a second.

41:34Big Cat:The soft pretzel is really an underrated elite appetizer move for the table.

41:38PFT Commenter:What are you guys' 1-1 dip with the soft pretzel? 1-1? Because I know a lot of people like cheese. I like the honey mustard. I think honey mustard is so good. The salty and sweet. I would argue that's not even the best mustard. I agree. Okay, what's the best mustard? Spicy brown. Spicy brown. Listen, I like the spicy brown. I love the honey mustard. That's my one-one.

41:59Big Cat:Spicy brown. The beer cheese is the best.

42:02PFT Commenter:That's the answer.

42:03Big Cat:If I were to rank mustards, I'd go spicy brown one. I think Dijon two. I like yellow. Yeah, straight yellow mustard. And then I think honey mustard is my fourth. I like yellow on a dog. Yeah, yellow on a dog. There are certain things that yellow is important, and I feel like a dog is one of those things.

42:20PFT Commenter:There are certain things that yellow is important. That's well said. Profound. There are certain things that yellow mustard is important for.

42:27Big Cat:Yeah.

42:28PFT Commenter:And dogs is one of them.

42:29Big Cat:I would say a - Is there anything else that it's important for? A ham sandwich? Yeah. Yeah. Great on a ham sandwich. That's good.

42:36PFT Commenter:That's good. Turkey, ham. Oh, good yellow mustard. Okay. And then my cool throne was actually going to be John Mateer because I don't think he did anything wrong. I think we're all just reading way too into this whole entire thing. Let me go. Cool throne. Shohei Otani because he's getting sued, I think, but for$240 million. It's a real estate transaction of some sort. Yeah, I think this is actually a cool throne for Shohei Otani because if he gets sued for$240 million, it kind of just shoves down the whole gambling thing even further. No, it's a cool throne for. Schwarber MVP? Yep. I didn't say it.

43:14PFT Commenter:You did. Yep. Yeah. I mean, if you're the MLB, you can't have Shohei Otani with all these controversies being the face of your league. that's such a good point like the gambling one yeah maybe blame it on the interpreter fool me once shame on you fool me twice like who you know we're about to give this guy his fourth mvp in five years mlb writers really need to do like justice here because they are they are the keepers of the game there's a reason why barry bonds and mark mcguire and sammy sosa aren't in the hall of fame uh they need to be stewards of the game and shoi otani is a bad actor very bad Kyle Schwarber is a great dude.

43:52Big Cat:What are his odds right now? He's minus 1 ,000. Not for long. Not for long. So, wait, he sabotaged a real estate deal. Was this in Japan or was this in the United States? Hawaii. In Hawaii. Okay, so we can still blame a translator.

44:05PFT Commenter:Yeah, and I also, whenever I see a lawsuit like this for$240 million, I feel like it's just someone just suing because they can sue. It's a huge amount of money. That's a huge amount of money. And I want to know how he sabotaged it. All right. Let's look into it. Maybe we need to. You know what? Shohei was gambling. Sure. Let's reopen that case for Kyle Schwartz. We should have Ipe on the program. Yeah. Okay. Get the side of the story. Zach. So my hot seat for today is Instagram. I may be a little bit behind here. Unbeknownst to me, Instagram dropped a map feature recently. Have you guys seen the map feature on Instagram?

44:48I have not. So there's a map feature now. You can go in. It's over by your messages. You click on a little world icon, and it just got your UAV, just a live location of where you're at. And some people are like automatically opted into it. Like mine was just like I was just live, and my location was on last night, and I had no clue. I wasn't sure when this started. I asked my brother about it. He said his was automatically off. So I'm not sure. Do you guys want to maybe check your Instagram messages out there because you could be just live pinging your locations at all times? Maybe we should...

45:21PFT Commenter:How do I get there? I haven't updated my Instagram in a long time. So you could be good. You might be okay. All right, so I should just not update. If you update, we just check it and make sure that it's checked off because nobody just wants their location being out there without knowing that they opted into such a thing.

45:37Big Cat:So Zach, yeah, how do I get there? So if you go to the Instagram app... I am not sharing my location. I see the map.

45:42PFT Commenter:Okay. I think we should all share our locations. Should we start sharing locations with each other? No. I am not sharing... I think I share my location with Hank. Hank, know when you're going on a ski trip? You share your location with Hank? I think so. I tell you when I'm going on a ski trip.

45:56Big Cat:Hank, look up Find Your Friends. I think that we were on a trip a long time ago. I think I enabled location sharing with Hank and nobody else. Yep. You know who else? I don't... You know, it's the most random person of all time. We had him on once. I don't know how we ended up sharing location. Craig Engels. Really? The runner. Where's he right now?

46:17PFT Commenter:That guy rocks. He's in Peru right now. Damn. Most interesting man in the world. Did you guys see the other day that we have a high school runner that is like the next great American runner?

46:28Big Cat:Yeah, I saw that. Yeah. He came in.

46:30PFT Commenter:142, 800 meter?

46:32Big Cat:Yeah. He came in second place, I think, in the 800. 16? But he crushed the high school record by like 10 seconds. Craig Engels.

46:40PFT Commenter:Where is he? He's in Peru. He's in Peru. That's so weird that you have his location. So weird. We need an update right now. I have like five people's locations. Just tell us when Craig Angles is on the move. Ben Council, Snowboard Ben. What a name. Okay. I have somebody that I don't know who it is. Where do you look for this? Do you have mine? I just did find my. How do you do that? I don't know how to look on it. Just search find my in the search bar.

47:02Big Cat:Hank, you can see my location, but I can't see yours. Wow. Power move. Yep. I have nothing. That's like when you used to stalk me on. You're probably cheating on me right now. When you used to stalk me on 18 birdies, I had to block you.

47:13PFT Commenter:Oh, I did have a very embarrassing moment where every day I would leave my garage and it would update on my phone being like, you've left your iPods behind. Yeah. Or EarPods behind. And I was like, that's weird. What? You're so close. EarPods. I was very close. That was like old football coach of me. God damn it. That really sucked now that I'm playing back in my head. You just said my iPod. That was like a snap face. That was bad. That was bad. Hand up. That was bad, guys. Maybe we do a clock like when Big Cat loses his mind because it's coming up soon. But for the longest time, I was like, that's weird.

47:54PFT Commenter:It must be like my wife's AirPods or something. Because I didn't know where my AirPods were. And then I was cleaning out my garage and they were just in a pocket of pants that I had had in my garage in a pile for like eight months. I love that. Oh, that's where they are. I love that. It just updated me every time.

48:12Big Cat:So I lost my AirPods in an Uber in New York like seven years ago, eight years ago. Didn't know where they were because the Uber driver never got back to me when I reported them lost. That's a finder's keeper situation if you leave them in like an Uber or Lyft or whatever. I never expected to get them back. But then when we flew to Providence, Rhode Island for the Rough and Rowdy a couple years ago, it pinged on my phone. It was like, your AirPods are nearby. somebody in providence is just rolling around every time i've been up in the new england area it reminds hey heads up your airpods are moving close to you i thought about rolling up to the dude but providence seems like a town you don't want to do that in no that would be funny though yeah it's like hey you just walk up to him so it hey if you're listening to part of my take maybe it's a listener right now that would be awesome in providence enjoy that's my gift to you it's fucking fly.

49:06Big Cat:Alright, Cool Throne.

49:08PFT Commenter:Look at him. He's just, he's taunting us. The way he's flying, he's taunting us. You think it's got a camera on it? He's taunting us into like he just flew, we buzzed your head. He's taunting us. It's bothering me. Okay, go ahead. You're Cool Throne. My Cool Throne today is EA because the Battlefield 6 beta has brought realism back into first person shooter games. They peaked with 520 ,000 concurrent players only on Steam. being out Call of Duty for that Warzone 2 at$490 ,000. There's actually thousands of people waiting in the queue for the 14th to come along. You can't play it right now. You've got to wait until the 14th.

49:46They're just waiting in queue for a spot to grab. Fantastic game. You guys should all go check it out.

49:52PFT Commenter:I have a video game question for you, Zach. Yes, sir. I don't know how this ended up in my algorithm, but why are people upset about Mafia the Old Country game that you can't swim? I've never played Mafia the Old Country game. I would assume if it's old country themed, though, swimming would be a big survival tactic. Yeah, you can't swim. And I was just like, what does it matter? Like, that's classic video game. You jump in the water and then you respawn. But now they're doing swimming. They're doing swimming? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, definitely.

50:19Big Cat:Yeah, there's a few tropes that you can set your watch to in video games. One, you fall in the water, you're dead instantly, just respawn. Two, if you shoot a barrel, that barrel is containing like 20 grenades. Yeah. And it's going to blow up. It's going to explode everywhere. So you said that it's bringing realism back to first-person shooter. When did we lose realism? So just here recently, Carl, you could grab a Beavis and Butthead skin. So you could hop into Search and Destroy, or you could be Nicki Minaj. You could be 21 Savage. They got some weapon skins. There's some leaks from Black Ops 7 where there's a train car or a roller coaster ride going throughout the weapon as you traverse the map.

50:55Battlefield 6, none of that. We're riding tanks. We're blowing up buildings.

50:59Big Cat:They should have a John Morant skin. i i would probably think about getting that one that'd be good skin yeah i do feel like this always happens then cod comes out on top fact or fiction i agree fact yeah definitely fact uh okay

51:13PFT Commenter:good hot seat cool thrones boys uh let's do our mount rushmore okay before mount rushmore truly truly hard seltzer is all about fun light refreshing variety in a bubbly effervescent style to get you and your people in a lively party mood. Truly Unruly is 8 % hard seltzer full of flavor, but still light and refreshing. Get it in four flavors, Tropical Twist, Berry Blast, Citrus Crush, and Strawberry Smash. You can even grab a big 24-ounce Tropical Twist single at convenience stores. Truly is the perfect day drink, tailgating on the weekend, bouncing around for game day. You can't beat something as light and easy, but big on flavor as Truly.

51:54PFT Commenter:Truly unruly drinks light parties hard get unruly with truly unruly eight percent hard seltzer you can find it anywhere like your favorite uh grocery store liquor or convenience store or visit truly hard seltzer.com and use the truly finder to grab it near you let's get unruly this summer guys eight percent abv it's a great tasting drink and it hits hard it's the best truly unruly the official hard seltzer a pardon my take we're gonna do the Mount Rushmore of unsexy things that are sexy. I like this one. It's kind of like normal things that are sexy. Our team went for we're talking about what girls do.

52:39PFT Commenter:Yep. I don't know if you guys did the same. Very open-ended. I'm excited for this one. We're neck and neck. What's the updated score? I think we're all one point apart. One point apart. So, Memes, you got the scores? I've got it.

52:53Big Cat:It's Big Cat and Zach in first place at 35 points. Max and Memes in second, 34 points. Me and Hank, third place, 33 points. Wow.

53:01PFT Commenter:Okay. Okay.

53:02Big Cat:Anyone's game.

53:03PFT Commenter:Anyone's game. Here we go. The Mount Rushmore of unsexy things that are sexy. And we go first. You guys go first. We are going to do when a girl can finish a big meal.

53:20Big Cat:Ooh. A big eater. You like a big eater. Just can hold their own at a dinner. Okay. Because you like to get a lot of apps, and if you're trying to order lots of things and you go with a girl who doesn't like to eat a lot, then you don't really get to eat a lot. One time a girl beat me in an eating contest in college, it was on. Yeah. It was so on. Yeah.

53:39PFT Commenter:Okay. All right. Good pick. We're going to go. You want to go with number two here? I'd like to. Okay. We've talked about this before, PFT. I think it came up on a Mount Rushmore before. I can't remember which one it was. Don't take it. Yeah. The cracked iPhone. It is so sexy. But it's unsexy. But it is sexy.

54:00Big Cat:No, you see a cracked iPhone. It's so hot. I forgot about that. It's so hot. By the way, we should - Just absolutely destroyed, obliterated screen.

54:07PFT Commenter:Can we all just do this Mount Rushmore in the trust tree? Because when Zach and I were preparing for it, we were getting way too horny. Yeah. With some of the shit we were throwing at each other. Memes was getting horny. He was saying the most mundane things. Yes. Like the most mundane. We have some very mundane things. Our fourth round pick, I'm going to let Memes say, is one of his mundane things that was insane. The honorable mentions will rock in this because Zach and I were talking about the most regular things, and basically both of us were just rock hard in my office.

54:41Big Cat:Yeah. When her iPhone screen is so shattered that she's got like tiny little cuts and abrasions on her thumb from using it. Like utterly unusable. It's so hot. It's so hot.

54:51PFT Commenter:Okay. You guys are up. All right. We'll stay on theme there. We're going to go with smoking cigarettes.

54:58Big Cat:Okay. Good one. Yep. Had it. Had it. Instantly rockets up. That's worth two points. Yep. And then we're going to go sweatpants, hair tied, chilling with no makeup on.

55:09PFT Commenter:Okay. Okay. Good pick, Hank. Okay. Zach, where are we going to go with this? I just keep thinking about the video we watched for number eight how odd it was number eight it was good we basically were watching like it wasn't porn but the way we were treating it was porn it felt like it should have one of those sensitive content warnings yeah okay we'll go with it throwing a perfect spiral oh okay is so sexy the Kelsey Plum video is that not just sexy no I don't think it's just throwing a ball is not a sexy act that's the highest Perfect spiral. Yeah. We talk about wanting to fuck perfect spirals all the time.

55:51PFT Commenter:Okay, so you want to just throw it, throwing with perfect form? That works. Like a girl throwing a, it could be a baseball too. Kelsey Plum has never been hotter than when she threw that. It was the hottest video ever. It was awesome. So throwing with perfect form. That's fine. We can do that. Throwing with perfect form. Because that was not, she was throwing a t-shirt and it was so hot. She just had perfect form. A girl throwing with perfect form is so hot. do you think perfect form is i just don't i don't understand how it's unsexy because i think it's just throwing throwing's not like a throwing sexy guys or girls throwing with perfect form all right with any all right no no i'm just i'm not trying to i'm not trying to stand on business let's go stay am i wrong stand on business like throwing it could be guy or girl anyone that throws anyone that does anything with perfect form is sexy okay right like a perfect golf swing like If a girl's a perfect golf swing, that's sexy.

56:42PFT Commenter:Okay, we'll go with something else. I feel like that's completely fine.

56:46Big Cat:That should play. Yeah, that's fine. We'll let the listeners and the viewers decide.

56:51PFT Commenter:You guys obviously have seen the Kelsey Plum video. I just don't see how that's unsexy or how someone would be like, that's unattractive. Well, it's just like throwing is not – there's nothing sexy about it. Yeah. It's a regular thing. It's a regular task. When a girl does it, it's so hot. Okay. I feel like we should take it off. No, if Max overruled, that's fine. No, I didn't overrule. If Max was the deciding judge. You're the only one who's overruled. That's what I'm saying. I'm fine if Max was the third vote and he says that's fine.

57:23Big Cat:But it's like the movies one where it's bad movies that are actually good. People will see that. If they disagree, they'll be like, that's not a non-sexy thing, so I'm not going to vote for that one. Yeah. Yeah, that's fine.

57:33PFT Commenter:So us? I feel like we just should talk about that Kelsey Plum video a little bit more Let's watch it It ruined it for me I guess it wasn't Yeah, Zach and I had to like We were barking at my computer screen

57:49PFT Commenter:She launches it No, it's a t-shirt So just say throwing Kelsey Plum throwing

57:55Big Cat:Like at a tailgate They just launch this one I just saw a picture of her smoking a cigar I think she looked better in that than throwing a t-shirt

58:03PFT Commenter:Look at that Perfect form.

58:07Big Cat:Okay.

58:09PFT Commenter:We got to get unhorny here for a second. Just keep going. Are we good? Yeah. We're going to go with when a girl's really mean to you. Okay. Okay.

58:18Big Cat:Okay. Like really mean. Yeah, like really mean.

58:21PFT Commenter:We had something different, but yeah, we had like being angry at someone else. The girl's just angry. Because I don't like when they're angry at me. Not angry. Well, angry and mean are two completely different things. You like a little bullying. Yeah, a little bullying. Yeah. Okay. And nextly, not lastly, but nextly, when a girl can go drink for drink. Okay. So you like an eater who's - Yeah. You like a dude. Yeah. You like a dude, Max. That's not true. You have a girl who can eat, drink, drink with you and bully you. Yeah. Okay. Let's see if Hank has a problem with this one. I think we go with, did we not put it on there?

59:09PFT Commenter:The thing you're wearing right now, Zach?

59:14PFT Commenter:Glasses? We did not put it on the list. We can take it, though. Yeah, I think we can take. Do you have a problem with that? I don't know what the pick is. A girl wearing glasses. A woman wearing glasses. Yeah. Can that be a pick or not? Sure. Are glasses, like, too sexy? Are they too hot?

59:28Big Cat:I think glasses can be hot, definitely. Yeah. But you can pick it. Is the pick a visually impaired woman?

59:38PFT Commenter:Bad eyesight? Okay, well, we got no reaction, so let's go with something else, Zach. Wait. That means you can pick it. Yeah, no, no, no. That means you can pick it. Okay. We're not here to question her prescription. She's just wearing the frames.

59:49Big Cat:Yeah, just wearing frames. Even if she's got great eyesight. Yeah, just wearing glasses. That's a little stolen valor. Wearing glasses is very sexy.

59:58PFT Commenter:It's very sexy. But glasses on themselves are not sexy. Like, nerds wear glasses, but when a girl wears them, it's hot. Would you agree? Yeah, I think girls wearing glasses is hot. Okay. That's our pick. We have two more?

1:00:16Big Cat:Yeah. We're going to go cute little tiny fart. Ooh. Yeah, when she toots just a little bit. You guys don't like that one? I don't find it sexy, but yeah. If it's a cute fart.

1:00:29PFT Commenter:Well, it's unsexy. No, no, no. I'm not saying that it's a I'm not saying you got to take it off. I personally don't find that sexy.

1:00:34Big Cat:Well, women fart, too.

1:00:35PFT Commenter:Yeah. Well, not really when they go.

1:00:38Big Cat:OK, it's adorable. Uh huh.

1:00:47What do you think PFT?

1:00:53I like...

1:00:56Big Cat:I'm going to highlight that part of one of them if you look at the notes app. What about the one above it? I don't even know what that means, but I love it. That's a little bit... That's a narrow definition. All right. We'll go with getting into a fight at a sporting event. Okay. Or can we just do getting into a fight? Yeah. Yeah, getting into a fight. Getting into a fight. Physical violence. When they display physical violence against another woman, kind of hot.

1:01:22PFT Commenter:Yeah. That's a good pick. That's a good pick. Zach, what do we want to finish with? How do you feel about 25? I don't know if it's a good pick. I don't know if it's. It's pretty hot. I think we should go. I think that's honorable mention because I think we worked ourselves into a tizzy with 25. I think that was. I'm really excited for 25. There was a moment where we just whooped ourselves up. Memes has one that's insane as well that I really can't wait for. I don't think it's that. I can't wait for people to see it. I think four or seven are both strong, and I don't know if 15 works. I kind of already was picked.

1:02:00PFT Commenter:I think four might be hot, hot. You think it's hot, hot? I think that, yeah, maybe. Okay. You want to rip seven? Yeah, why don't we go seven?

1:02:09Big Cat:We're going to pick pumping gas.

1:02:11PFT Commenter:Pumping gas, yeah.

1:02:12Big Cat:Okay.

1:02:13PFT Commenter:Pumping gas.

1:02:13Big Cat:It's hot. We already took farting.

1:02:16PFT Commenter:Yeah. Pumping gas. A woman pumping her own gas. We already took farting. It's funny. Yeah, we like it. No, that's good. Yeah. A woman pumping gas. Fuck, we do. Okay. Like in an oversized SUV. It's hot. Filling up like the 30-gallon tank on the Denali. This might be a situation when like Jack or Zach and I are just like. That's one on its own. Well, yeah, we actually had that. We had a small woman getting out of a large SUV. Yeah, no, that's honestly a good one. But we're pumping gas in a large SUV. That's a good, yeah. A giant lifted truck. Yeah. Yeah, ours aren't as, we're not as creative. I was just going to say.

1:03:00PFT Commenter:We got open-ended with it. I know, I know. We want to just go off the wall. We're going to go with a girl who likes non-stereotypical music.

1:03:09Big Cat:Oh. Okay. Okay. Like, a girl that doesn't just want to listen to Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo, and Sabrina Carpenter. Okay. Okay. I like that.

1:03:19PFT Commenter:Okay.

1:03:19Big Cat:She likes a little ska.

1:03:20PFT Commenter:I dig that. All right. Good Mount Rushmore. I think honorable mentions are going to be even funnier. Yes. We got some good honors. I want to know 25. I want to know 25. All right. 25 is hot. I think 25 is hot. I think it's hot. Zach and I, we just started, we basically did a fanfic talking about it. we think it's very sexy for a woman to type really fast when the nails are clicking yeah just fucking hammering at it on a phone on a no on a computer or a phone i see phone more than i see computer just going so fucking fast it's so hot because that kind of goes into like oh she's yelling at someone yeah maybe that's what it is the anger of it you guys like that i like when

1:04:03Big Cat:you're on the phone with a customer service rep and she's tight and you can hear the yeah fast so that's pretty much phone sex yeah can i really want you guys memes this is so insane

1:04:13PFT Commenter:i just had a yawn morning yawn all right well that's not bad all right morning yawns are hot yeah yawning is hot yawning is hot max doesn't get it on in the morning the one that's morning sex the one that we yawning also happens at night you don't like it the one that we thought was Maybe it's like too sexy, but it is just because on its own, it's unsexy. But in my head, it's sexy. Just nurse scrubs. Yeah, that's just sexy. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably just sexy. We did the same. We had tattoos, but I think that's too much. Tramp stamps. I think tramp stamps get a bad. People are like, oh, that's unsexy.

1:04:47PFT Commenter:No, it's sexy.

1:04:48Big Cat:I say bring back the belly button ring, too. I'll go one further.

1:04:52PFT Commenter:I like that. What about like calling 10 times in a row if you don't answer? Yeah. Or like over 20 times in a row. That's like the anger thing.

1:04:59Big Cat:Yeah. The power calls are good. Yeah. I had getting kicked off a plane. I think a lot of people would say that's not sexy. I think that's pretty hot. Yeah. That's really hot. I think a lot of people would agree with that.

1:05:09PFT Commenter:We had some ones that like things they say, like when a girl asks how something works. Yeah. Answer confidently.

1:05:18Big Cat:Like something that you really don't know that much about. But she's like, you're a man. You can explain how an internal combustion engine works. Also, when a girl asks you to open something for him. Yeah. That's good.

1:05:29PFT Commenter:Also, when a girl has to get on their tippy toes to reach something. It's hot. We had getting lost.

1:05:36Big Cat:If she gets lost a lot. Yeah. That's kind of hot. What about... If she has one leg and she runs an in-home nursing business. She's from Russia. Yeah, that's hot. She might not be that hot, but there's something about her. Something about her. I think one thing could lead to another here.

1:05:51PFT Commenter:Yeah. What about weapons? We wanted to go crossbow. Something about a crossbow. Okay. This sounds like a video game character. I don't know. I think it's just the stretching.

1:06:03Big Cat:I don't know. The crossbow. What about when a girl gets kidnapped all the time by like a giant monster with a tortoise shell with spikes on it? And she's like, you got to come save me.

1:06:12PFT Commenter:No, but that's not that hot because it's friend zone.

1:06:15Big Cat:But no, but you'll do anything for her. Yeah, but then she won't even kiss you.

1:06:20PFT Commenter:This one I think is just hot, but we were working around it. So yoga pants obviously are just hot. Yep. But hold on. Hear me out. The shorts where the phone pocket is like skin tight, when they put the phone in that pocket, that's hot.

1:06:35Big Cat:Yeah, I agree. But I think that's - That might be just - That's just, you're just seeing the tight pants. Okay, all right, all right. Yeah, I could say I like the tennis dress. Go ahead. Another one meme said is girls who run. Yeah, running. Yeah. Like the face during it, you know, heavy breathing.

1:06:51PFT Commenter:But - We love chicks on this podcast. We do. What about dad hats? I think they're hot Trucker hats Not as much trucker hats Dad hat I like the dad hat look Zach put in yard work Okay Mowing the lawn Definitely pass some hot moms in a pole saw Yep Sucking at cooking Sucking at cooking?

1:07:16Big Cat:But she tries These are things that are unsexy that might be I don't know I think we didn't understand this as well No, no, that's fine You guys are picking things that are just sexy.

1:07:29PFT Commenter:But they're just not like genuine. Action is not like a sexy. Like typing fast is not. There's nothing sexy about that. But it is when a girl does it.

1:07:39Big Cat:How about when she roots for the Edmonton Oilers? Yeah. That's good. I like how you just are picking. I'm waiting for you to do one with Casey Anthony. These are stereotypes. When she has a kid. Yeah, when she has a kid. Yeah, when she has a kid. And she worked at Universal Studios. Reading a book. Yeah. Sexy. Just being a giant nerd. Yeah. Being a big dork. I like that.

1:08:01PFT Commenter:Zach had waiting in line. That might just be, I might have just been horny. Yeah. That's my fault. Zach also tried to throw out side boob to me. Is that actually? That's just boob. That's just the sexiest thing ever. It's like, you know what's not sexy, but sexy cleavage. Yeah. A breast. The lines got blurred. We're just talking about stuff that's hot. Yeah. You just got horny and started thinking about things that made you horny.

1:08:23Big Cat:I was going to say wearing a purse with a strap that goes in between the boobs. Yeah. The seatbelt. But that's still just boob. Putting on a seatbelt. Seatbelt, seatbelt, boob. Yeah, middle strap. Putting on a seatbelt. Middle strap.

1:08:33PFT Commenter:That is an unsexy thing that becomes sexy. But it becomes sexy because of boob. Yeah, I know. I understand why I'm turned on by it. So the point is still clear that it's boob. Boob is what is making you sexy.

1:08:46Big Cat:Mm-hmm.

1:08:48PFT Commenter:Yeah, but the side boob was what led us to breastfeeding. we're like what if breastfeeding was just the pick i like how zach's waiting in line is just

1:08:56Big Cat:like when i see a woman in front of me yeah that's fair yeah no again we hand up we got horny

1:09:04PFT Commenter:we did uh i this one was kind of picked but like wearing wearing your sweatshirt we had that but i feel like hank kind of yeah i kind of took that um all right any others oh when a girl

1:09:18Big Cat:asks about your parlay earnestly sexy how how's your bet doing yeah that's sexy what are we

1:09:25PFT Commenter:rooting for yeah yeah oh well how many more points do we need yep that's sexy uh pink iphone cases

1:09:33Big Cat:okay yeah pink iphone sometimes there's like a little little razzle dazzle on there yeah maybe the little the the holder thing in the back the holder thing in the back or the suction cups yeah All over it.

1:09:43PFT Commenter:Yeah. Anything else? How do we feel about next day makeup? Like, you know that clearly that's from yesterday, but still kind of hot.

1:09:53Big Cat:Mm-hmm.

1:09:53PFT Commenter:Mm-hmm. Natural hair. Natural hair. I can't tell the difference. Which has got a great shower. Wet hair. Wet hair. Wet hair. I think we just love women. Yeah. God help me. Yeah. We were going to try it. We were talking about maybe doing it the other way where things girls find sexy, and that would have been a disaster. We've got it all wrong. Like when you take 30 minutes in the toilet. I mean, when a girl likes you. Yeah.

1:10:24Big Cat:Not necessarily sexy, but definitely sexy.

1:10:26PFT Commenter:Yeah. That is sexy. That is sexy. Okay. Good stuff, guys. Let's get to our interviews. Before we get to Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift is brought to you by Wayfair.

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1:11:45PFT Commenter:is taylor swift okay we now welcome on a very very very very very special guest uh new album out on what the 12th sure on the 12th uh so you've probably already listened to it but we have secured uh taylor swift on the show we're gonna fight fire with fire so taylor thank you for joining us my first question to you is how long have you been uh taylor swift yeah well thanks so much for having me um to all the listeners yes i promise my name is actually Taylor Swift. I get jokes all the time, but don't worry. I just shake it off. Oh, that's good. Wait, so answer the question. How long you been Taylor Swift?

1:12:35Big Cat:I've been Taylor Swift for 31 years now. Oh, wow. That's a long time.

1:12:39PFT Commenter:That's a really long time to be Taylor Swift. Yeah.

1:12:41Big Cat:So Taylor, when you have people that find your name out for the first time, what's their initial reaction? And then do you have something that you say back to them? Well, I mean, it depends. Sometimes if I'm making like dinner reservations, or, you know, reserving event spaces or stuff like that. People get really, really excited. And then I'm the one that walks into the room, this 6 '1 white male that looks nothing like the other Taylor Swift, and it's always disappointment. Yeah, I can see that. It's like the Michael Jordan commercial. Yeah. Taylor, what are your thoughts on the Chiefs' upcoming season?

1:13:18To be honest, I think it really depends on that offensive line and what happens with Mahomes. I mean, he had a rough outing, but Kelsey's still the man. They have some great defensive players, but that NFC West is going to be pretty tough. I mean, obviously the Raiders drafted well, and Denver has a formidable defense and an incredible sophomore quarterback, so it's going to be a tough division, but I think they're still going to make the playoffs and make a deep run.

1:13:45PFT Commenter:So in the Super Bowl, Taylor Swift got booed, and so I'm just curious, what was going through your mind, Taylor Swift, at the time? You know, sometimes I feel like I live vicariously through her. All my life, since I can remember, I've known her being this, like, not only just a planet, but her entire, like, she's an entire solar system. She is one of the greatest songwriters of our generation, and with that comes complication. Sometimes people like you, sometimes people hate you, but as a creative artist, I have nothing but respect for her as a person, but I know sometimes when fans don't like the product or something's going on in the world that makes it difficult, it can be really, really hard sometimes to be that person.

1:14:35So all is to say, I always empathize, but at the same time, she is a juggernaut. She is one of the most successful songwriters ever, and I have nothing but admiration for that.

1:14:47Big Cat:Taylor, do you have a favorite Jake Gyllenhaal movie? oh great question honestly this is gonna be weird but i really like prisoners with uh hugh jackman the uh the movie that came out i think like maybe 10 or so years ago that one is really good and then end of watch the uh the cop movie that came out i think in the mid 2010s as well those are two of my favorites okay those are both great picks do you have a favorite podcast that you listen to um probably the ryan rossillo podcast oh no i'm just kidding um i i actually don't know i i fluctuate uh between bill simmons uh you know ryan and and you all so it just it just depends on what i'm looking for right now i'm starting to do a lot of my fantasy football research and so i kind of try to get information from all the sources but it just depends on the vibe how are you as a

1:15:38PFT Commenter:fantasy football manager, Taylor Swift? You know, it's tough. I'm a league manager in one of my leagues. The other league, I think I won maybe four or five years ago, but I always start like five and one, six and two, and then all of my players end up getting injured mid-season. I've done the strategy, which most people have done over the past couple of years of drafting wide receivers early. And that has really come back to bite me at the running back position. So I really think I'm going to try to take a different strategy this year, this time around. Our team has kind of the opposite.

1:16:12Big Cat:We've started very slow in the past, and then we get better as the season goes on.

1:16:16PFT Commenter:Yeah, would you, Taylor, would you be open to the idea, we're trying to build kind of a dream team for our fantasy football team in terms of managers. We have Jerry O 'Connell, we have Adam Schefter. Would you be interested at all, cost you nothing, to be part of this dream team and potentially co-manage our fantasy football team for us, Taylor Swift? I am 100 % in. That sounds great. Wow. That's great.

1:16:45Big Cat:Yeah, we're building a strong front office right now. And I feel like – do you think you could work well with Jerry O 'Connell as a manager? I think so. I like to consider myself as like a team player. And, you know, I want to do the due diligence and make sure that you're getting the right pick at the right value. That's the most important thing. And so just making sure there's proper communication channels to make those right picks. But I love Schefter. You know, I'm a big fan. So definitely, definitely would be amenable to join.

1:17:19PFT Commenter:Okay. So, Taylor, I want to do just quick rapid fire. Favorite meal? Oh, a good seared steak. nothing beats the steak okay uh favorite NFL team oh I'm in free agency right now but I'm gonna have to say the um Houston Texans because of my boy CJ Stroud okay favorite college team um ohio baby go bucks okay okay favorite uh tv show oh all time probably Breaking Bad nothing beats Brian Franston Okay. Favorite band or music? Oh, Kendrick Lamar, bar none. Been a day one fan since before he was cool. Since the overly dedicated days.

1:18:13Big Cat:I love that. Do you think that Travis Kelsey is going to propose this year? You know what? I don't want to put that pressure on him. I feel like the weight of the world is on his shoulders, but I think he landed one of the best people ever, so I think he would he should do it but we'll see what happens he needs to do it the right way I think that's the most important thing he needs to do it his way the way that he feels and yeah just make sure that he can deliver yeah

1:18:43PFT Commenter:Hank do you have a question for Taylor Swift? favorite lens lens? are you a photographer? did I hear that wrong? no different guy? fuck if you were a photographer it's all good Favorite lens No bad blood here, don't worry Favorite movie Oh, I'm gonna have to go John Carpenter's The Thing From 1982 Old movie, Kurt Russell A bunch of guys in Antarctica It's a horror thriller, it's very good Everybody should check it out Would you, Taylor, like to say anything about Ukraine vs Russia? Probably not right now Okay, good answer No, I don't think it's my place.

1:19:29Big Cat:Yeah. No, that's a totally fair answer. Totally fair answer. I think you've done your media training.

1:19:34PFT Commenter:Yeah, you really got us down.

1:19:36Big Cat:Taylor, do you have anything that you want to plug?

1:19:42Not right now, other than I live in Washington, D.C. I just want to say that we're going through a lot in this country right now, but don't forget the value of our public service officials, our election security officials, our people that work in local government. All these people are trying to make everybody's lives better. And people wake up and choose public service and make less money than those in the private sector. And I think it's really, really important for a country that has good social services, good government services to have people that want to have those jobs. And so just want to make a make a plug for our public service officials.

1:20:22I love it.

1:20:22Big Cat:I like that. I love it. Bill said, I have one last question for you. If you were to make a Mount Rushmore of tight ends, NFL tight ends, all time, who would you put on that list? Well, I mean, Travis is probably number one. Probably Shannon Sharps up there. All new news notwithstanding. Let's see. Oh, my goodness. I'm kind of drawing a blank right now. Who was the guy that played for the Saints? Jimmy Graham. I'm trying to remember. Jimmy Graham is definitely up there. Oh, man, he was the chief tight end before Travis. Tony Gonzalez. Tony Gonzalez. There we go. Y 'all are asking me all these NFL questions.

1:21:07I'm good at the NFL, but the NBA is really my jam.

1:21:10PFT Commenter:Oh, okay. So let's go your Mount Rushmore of NBA players. Oh, well, it's LeBron, LeBron, LeBron, and LeBron. Oh, no. This has gone bad, Taylor. We've turned a bad corner here today.

1:21:23Big Cat:Do you want to take it? Let's do another crack at the tight ends one, though. So I'll just throw a couple more names out there for you. You've got Rob Gronkowski. You've got Antonio Gates. Oh, sure. I feel like maybe one of those might push Travis off the list because he's still playing. We don't know what he's going to accomplish by the end of his career. I still think that, you know, Travis has shown time and time again that he is a winner. I agree that I think Gronkowski should definitely be up there, especially with all of the rings and all of the touchdowns. um same same with uh yeah i i totally agree but travis has just shown that he has been either the 1a or 1b on multiple deep playoff runs and again he's still in his early 30s and still has that appetite to win and i mean oh my gosh just like i think that when when folks think of change makers in the nfl like people he transcends the nfl which i think is another reason why people belong on the Mount Rushmore like yes of course stats are important of course rings are important but people will remember Travis Kelsey for you know his stuff on and off the field and and sexiest NFL player oh good question I don't know I I haven't I haven't thought about this one let me think um oh yeah you're gonna have to come back to me on that one

1:22:44PFT Commenter:let me let me let me marinate on that for a minute what about NBA player you would like to date if If you, if that, if you were maybe a woman. Um, let's see. I mean, I feel like all of the female friends over the course of my life have said Kelly Oubre. I don't really know why, but honestly, honestly, I'm not a hundred percent sure on that either. I'm trying to think of someone that's like a great hang. Okay. I'm just going to have to be biased again. My three, three Oh two one six is going to come out. I'm going to have to say Donovan Mitchell. Okay. He seems like a super charming guy. he's not overly tall like i'm pretty tall i'm 6 '1 but he wouldn't like tower tower over me and uh yeah he just seems like a great hang and um obviously just got you know engaged as well so congratulations to him okay last question uh hottest guy in hollywood oh do you mean do you mean like attractive yeah like on a generational run like that right now hottest guy in hollywood like i'll start i'm gonna say go ahead go ahead well i was gonna to say Gosling just because I think he like not only can he play a character of a caricature of himself but he also is like I think just very striking very very guy next door but he's also a really good actor which I think is like a hard thing to do yeah that's a good answer Brian Gosling Taylor Swift all right so hottest NFL player

1:24:11Big Cat:um let me see let me see it could be anyone could be james no

1:24:21let's say um i guess i'm just gonna have to go back to cj i think cj stroud is just like he's he's he's definitely like on the on the more handsome side but he also seems like a great hang For me, personality really, really is a big thing, and he just seems like a great guy to hang out with.

1:24:39PFT Commenter:Okay. Great. Well, Taylor Swift, thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it, and congrats on all the success. Max, did you have something? Okay. Yeah, congrats on everything, and thanks so much for joining us.

1:24:55Big Cat:Awesome.

1:24:55PFT Commenter:Thanks so much for having me. Go Cavs!

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1:25:42PFT Commenter:here's drickis duplessis okay we now welcome on a very very very special guest uh ahead of UFC in Chicago. It is Drikus DePlessis. Did I say it right? No. Okay. Drikus. Let me go one more time. Drikus De Plessis. Still no. Pretty close. That was close. Your guy right now is saying I got it. It looks like me trying to throw that basketball in there. Yeah, that was tough. Oh, this is tough. Yeah, I mean, you're a very confident guy because we just sat down. We're going to probably air this the week of the fight, but you're about to throw the first pitch of the Cubs game and I was like 60 feet 6 inches like you gotta be ready you go 60 feet 4 inches and I've been watching baseball all my life and I had to go check and I was like is he right or am I right I was right but you made me think I was wrong and that's what it's all about

1:26:32Big Cat:I don't know how you did that 2 inches make a big difference though because you can't bounce it depending on who you ask I would kill for 2 inches

1:26:40PFT Commenter:so then correct me on the exact pronunciation DDP

1:26:48Big Cat:DDP. That works. Drikus Duplessis. Is that close? Can you just say the name? Drikus Duplessis. Can you say the name Brooks Koepka? Brooks Koepka. Oh, that's so good. He should be South African. That works. Yeah.

1:27:00PFT Commenter:That works. All right. So you're getting ready for your fight. Yeah. How are we feeling overall? Absolutely incredible. I mean, Cam, we are just over two weeks out. We're 10 days out today, actually, and 10, 11 days, yeah. The camp's been incredible. We've been preparing. we've known quite a while that this is going to be the next fight so I've had more than sufficient time to prepare for this fight and I can with 100 % honestly say this is the best camp the hardest camp I have to say you know when you're preparing for a guy that wrestles like like like Hamzat or or you know a guy with that wrestling and grappling pedigree you have to understand that in an area like that it's a physically demanding area this wrestling probably being the most physically demanding area in MMA.

1:27:45So it was a hard camp. It was a long camp. But I knew for a fight like this, fighting the best opponent I've ever faced, I need to be more ready than ever. And that's exactly what we did. But here I'm sitting right now and the past 12 weeks just flew past me. Yeah. And I'm so ready to go. This is the biggest fight of the year. I can't wait.

1:28:05PFT Commenter:So how does it look when you have a 12-week camp and then the two weeks before, what is the training like? You're tapering off? or like how is it just like maintaining the level? Because you obviously don't want to push yourself super hard right before the fight, right? Yeah, so that's a, it's, I guess it's different for most people, but everybody understands their body and, you know, the coaches I've been working for for the past 10 years, you know, and my conditioning coach, we've been working together for just over two years now, a new conditioning coach. And we understand my body, how it works, how long it takes to be, because we go flat speed.

1:28:41You build up in camp, and then three weeks out from the fight is my hardest session. That's my hardest session of my whole camp, three weeks out, and also your biggest risk of getting injured at that time. But it's what needs to be done. And then you start taping off, but three weeks out, like last week, I was here about three weeks from the fight. You still go hard. Not in terms of contact, but in terms of pushing yourself. Cardio. Cardio-wise, conditioning-wise, strength, even all of that, you're still pushing very hard. And then from this week, two weeks out, you start taping on that too. So your sessions are still intense, just shorter.

1:29:23It's a shorter duration. Then next week, of course, much shorter sessions, still with that intensity. This is the area where we peak. But the biggest problem here is making sure that you are 100 % on it when it comes to overtraining because getting in there overtrained is even worse than getting in there under-trained, to be honest.

1:29:43Big Cat:So how do you simulate a great wrestler like that? Do you have one guy whose job it is to just do everything that Hamza can do? Or do you have different guys that you bring in to simulate different things? Well, I always explain like this. You have to bring guys in at this level because, I mean, finding one guy that can do exactly what Hamza does, he would be in the UFC right now fighting for a world title. Right. You're not going to find one guy. Just the same as you're not going to find a guy to assimilate me. I don't think somebody in the world fights like me. But once you have a couple of guys, one guy just takes care of this one area.

1:30:17One guy takes care of this one area. Or even in that specific area, you can even break it down more, which is something that I did. Get a guy that's great at a double leg. Get a guy that's great at a single leg. Get a guy that's great on top, great on bottom. Find a guy to break down his game because there is somebody better than him on top. There's a lot of guys better than him on top. There's a lot of guys better than him in the bottom. A lot of guys better with double legs, a lot of guys better with single legs. But one guy can put it all together, that's him. Those guys would be fighting for a world title if they were able to do that.

1:30:47So you have to split that up, especially at this level and get guys from... I mean, even in boxing, when I prepared for Strickland, you get a guy with just a good jab. Then you get a... Because a normal boxer is not going to fight that Philly shell. So it doesn't help that I've trained with that boxer because it's not going to simulate. So the same with this fight. is getting guys that are good at individual things that collectively creates a humza.

1:31:09Big Cat:Yeah. So Mike Tyson famously said, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. Have you ever experienced that in a fight where you've gone into a fight with what you thought was a great plan? And then once it starts, you just revert back to like, I'm just going to beat the fuck out of this guy mode. Yeah. More times than I would like to admit. Because, and it's not about the one punch. You know, when I'm in there, I take one punch and I don't really feel it. I don't care. I would actually deny that I got hit really hard up until I watched the fight again. I'm like, okay, that was. Because you're so focused, you take the punch, you just keep on going.

1:31:42But I've definitely, a lot of times, went to the corner and said, coach, you know that game plan we've been training for the last 12 weeks?

1:31:50PFT Commenter:Yeah. Not working. Toss it out. Yeah. What are we doing now? We have one minute. We have to make a game plan right now. And that's a lot of times. is because one guy's game plan is not working in a fight, always. There's one guy winning, one guy losing. The guy that's losing his game plan is probably not working because you have this idea of what the guy's going to do and he has the idea of what you're going to do and it's about who implements at this level. Everybody's strong, fit. Everybody is good. On a physical level, everybody has this, it's marginal differences. But when it comes to the game plan, that's where the fight's won and lost.

1:32:26But a lot of times you get into that corner and you're like, coach, uh this sucks but whatever we planned was a terrible idea yeah on the flip side everyone

1:32:36PFT Commenter:planning for you because you have kind of an unorthodox like striking style that gets guys off their game do you know when you're in a fight you're like this guy can't figure me out he doesn't know where it's coming from i've got him in this way i don't think that that is uh that is what that's what people think right they're like guys can't figure this guy out it's not while i'm busy there the i'm feeling you out and it's about it looks awkward and it is it's the way we because that's the way when when i started the sport 12 years ago as a professional 13 years ago actually we realized what we think before we made it that this is the more superior style do it this way taking bits and pieces of everyone and uh you know once i figure things out it looks like I'm in there it is chaotic it looks like I'm just throwing falling over my feet which a lot of times does happen and but it's me figuring out what this guy's doing how he's reacting to what I'm doing and it's chaos in there but it's to me it's educated chaos I know exactly what I'm doing why I'm doing it and yeah I lose my balance sometimes yeah but it's it does kind of mess people up because it's not something they can you could like you talk about training on the ground like Hamzat's got to train for what you're doing and how do you replicate that yeah and I think you know that's a in all sports right I think you see that with with any sports if you take baseball if you take the NBA any sport you know I'm a big sport fan don't know too much about American sports but it's always one team or someone figures something out and the rest of the world needs to play catch up right now until they figure it out then it's you know it's almost a change of God so for four years they have just the best they just win championship after championship until people figure out what it is that makes them different and that's that's that's what I feel what my style happened it was only criticized it was only like this guy's ridiculous he won two in a row how's this guy even in the UFC how did he beat this guy he got so lucky this style is ridiculous once he gets to the top 15 he'll get exposed then top 10 then top five fighting Whitaker, becoming champion, defending it twice.

1:34:51And now people are going, okay, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's look into this. And I said this from the beginning. I think you guys are only criticizing Master Hall, where you should be taking notes. Instead, understand there is a lot of criticism, and deservingly so. I think I'm a 6 out of 10. There's a lot of work still to be done for me to get to the fight I want to be and get in there and be perfect. But there's some things I do that are great. That's why I'm the world champion. And people were too late. And now people are starting to say, okay, maybe we should look at this. Maybe we should – this is not just him going crazy.

1:35:29This is actually an educated scramble or an educated combination, even though it looks different to what we're used to. And now they're playing catch-up.

1:35:37Big Cat:Yeah. Have you seen any guys in particular that have adopted things that you do? i think when uh one of my teammates and i uh well actually our team manager we spoke about it and the sport started off with just brawlers right just guys getting in there it looked like one big bar bro and but it wasn't an educated bar bro it was just tank abid just hitting somebody for two minutes at a time and getting as tired as you can and seeing who lost then it became more technical up until a time where it was the technique was the only thing you know there were guys with great wrestling technique just killed everyone and well there was first the grapplers then the strikers then the wrestlers and the same thing like i said then the wrestlers take over then the strikers start taking over and then the grapplers take over for a while again where the sport right now is almost it's a sport on its own it's not the grappler or it's the most complete martial artist right because we saw that with a guy like bo nickel for example now great wrestler incredible he's i mean one of the best to ever do it but it's not the same as MMA wrestling.

1:36:43The distance is different. The punches is different. The stance is different. The levels are different once you bring in those variables and I think that's where the sport is right now. It's almost going right back to from the super technical to the guy that can take the most and give the most. Right. Now you find a guy, everybody can defend the takedown. Everybody can shoot a takedown and then it comes to the point where you are a technical striker or you are a striker, I can strike who can give the most and he can take the most if you look at a guy like Adesanya I mean on a technical level he's a much better striker than me but I did beat him on the feet I dropped him twice I dropped him at the end and got the choke because it's not about that technique anymore it's not a kick if that was a kickboxing fight he would have probably kicked my ass but it's not it's an MMA fight gloves are different distance is different there's a lot more things to worry about when it comes to takedowns setting it up and I think that's where the sport is.

1:37:41It's going all the way back to who's the guy that can stand, bang, and take the most and give the hardest shots.

1:37:48PFT Commenter:What's your favorite way to win a fight? So you've won a fight, knockout, guillotine, rear naked choke, two face cranks. What's your favorite? That's hard. I have to say the feeling to me is all the same with net ref because I've never had a walk-off KO and I don't plan on having one ever because it's just not the way I do it. once that guy hits the deck i go for the kill right right up until the ref pulls me off i i don't see anything other than killing this person in front of me and uh whenever the ref says stop that's that's the best feeling whether it be by choke whether it be by even at the end of a five round decision when the ref says stop you're pretty happy about that yeah it's a long time to be in there yeah so it's crazy yeah i mean for me well i can answer you this way i don't have a favorite method of winning just winning but to me losing i always see guys they're almost scared to get caught especially going into a final round and they hesitate and they even though they know they're two rounds or four rounds down they have to finish to win this fight and just because they're fighting a guy they're scared they're scared to get knocked out or choked out or so they don't take the risk to me if i think about losing losing on the decision losing by knockout or by submission.

1:39:05It makes absolutely no difference. A loss is a loss. Yeah. Whenever you're in doubt, just go for it. Yeah.

1:39:12Big Cat:My personal favorite style of knockout is the body shot. Just people getting body shot to death. That is a very good one. It's delayed. In my pro career, in my amateur career, I have a few, but as a professional, I've never had that. But a body kick is one thing because you can see the guy almost going, and then you can go for it. But getting a body shot, a clean body, like a Jose Aldo versus Jeremy Stevens, just a clean liver shot and seeing a guy go down.

1:39:39PFT Commenter:Yeah, like five seconds later. They take the step back and then they're like, they take the punch and you're like, I got it. I can handle it. And then you just can't. Do you talk to guys? Do you talk in their ear when you're about to submit them? Like when you're about to choke them out? No, I wish I could. I wish I could. I've seen a lot of guys do that. And even in a fight, I've never said a word during a fight in my whole life. Yeah. I don't have the attention span for that, I guess. I'm too focused on that fight. I've never been able to even get one word out. Yeah. Even if a guy was, a lot of guys have spoken to me while we fight, like giving you shit or something like that.

1:40:14I've said sorry. Like when I accidentally do a groin kick or something like that, I'll be like, sorry. And then we go. But in the middle of the fight, I don't have that wherewithal to be able to talk and focus on fighting.

1:40:27PFT Commenter:Yeah, but you are a great trash talker. Where would you rank yourself in trash talking at the UFC right now? well i mean right now yeah well i mean if we go on a cry record i'm probably the best uh-huh how many cries have you gotten have you solicited well two out of the last three okay that's not bad yeah that's pretty good that's good numbers yeah i can go with that what's the key to your trash talking people are sensitive man i think that's the key has anyone gotten you really good where you're like damn that hurt well you can't it's it's impossible where i'm from you know in south africa banter is the only way you and your friends spend time there's never a time where we do not banter you should work here that's all we do that is and i mean i think that's the thing like all these things that i've said is something i've said way worse things to my friends and they to me and i have two older brothers if if that if you have to be around you would think wow okay this is this is rough and these things that trigger these people i was like you know you find something personal in our friend group something that really is gonna it doesn't help you say the the everyday stuff that's not gonna hurt one of my friends or my brothers you have to find something personal yeah and and say it and yeah people are

1:41:46Big Cat:sensitive yeah do you like compile folders on people like here's what i here's how you can go after him in his personal life here's how you can go after him on his looks here's his last girlfriend well on the looks side it's pretty evident to to go after someone it's not that hard yeah they're sitting there and you can see so but in the rest of it for me i don't people always say how do you go prepare for it you can't prepare for something like this because you don't know what they're going to say and i always try to match my opponent's energy if you go look at any of my of the trash talk or banter a guy like me and whitaker for example there was no bad blood and I'm never ever going to make fake beef to sell a fight.

1:42:26I think it's cringy. I hate it. I don't like it. But even with me and Strickland in the first fight, it was a pretty chilled, it was a few, I'm going to beat you, I'm going to beat you, you're good at this, I'm good at that. But nothing serious up until, you know, with a guy like Strickland, he was like, okay, this is not the way I do things. He gets the crowd riled up because he says the craziest stuff. And I like Sean Strickland, by the way. he's a he's a cool guy he just says outrageous things and at that press conference he didn't get that reaction because he wasn't being outrageous enough and then he said something he leveled it up with i'm going to say your coach is going to finish you off in the back and i said okay i can match that you want to go there let's go and obviously i won that exchange and that's how i do it if you keep it respectful i will always keep it respectful if you kind of come at me and let's say here i'm gonna match you right there if you're gonna open up i'm gonna go for it yeah yeah and i there's nothing i will not say yeah there's nothing that have you ever crossed that line there is no line oh it's war it's war it's i mean isn't the line killing someone i'm willing to kill that person i have no problem doing that that's a good point there's no line

1:43:45Big Cat:you wouldn't feel bad if you there's nothing you choke somebody out in the ring and and the maybe the ref was too late getting over to you god forbid but if the ref doesn't stop it i'm not stopping yeah and if it did happen we signed the forms we know what we were risking yeah what uh

1:43:59PFT Commenter:what does it feel like walking into any room being like i could beat the fuck out of anyone because you were just shooting a basketball on our court and it was some of the worst basketball shooting athletic display i've ever seen and i had to sit there and not talk shit because i was like he can just beat us all up in one second you see that is that's that's that's a good side of it because i can suck yeah no because you really suck yeah it was bad yeah yeah but that's it that's the thing when you walk into a room and you can beat everybody there it's like people can i always say speak behind my back i don't care but if you're sitting in front of me i will beat the shit out of you so that's how it feels yeah that's yeah that's gotta feel good

1:44:38Big Cat:yeah if uh me big cat and we got max in the booth right there if the three of us attacked you right now how how quickly would you knock us out hey max is a big boy yeah i don't care about size okay um i would say probably like if all three of you yeah at once before before the fight's over yeah yeah like before so at once i would say probably give me two and a half minutes oh that's pretty good yeah way longer that's the longest i've ever lasted i thought you were We kind of just kicked your ass. Yeah, we actually kind of won that. Because if you think about it on a realistic term, if you come at me, I'm definitely knocking you out.

1:45:21I don't think so. You won't know. Don't worry. Okay. You'll know when you wake up in hospital, you'll know. Just go for your legs. Yeah. Takedown. Ever heard of it? Yeah. It's a street fight. I can stomp you. Yeah, so we can stomp you too. You can try. I bite your balls. I will bite your balls.

1:45:37PFT Commenter:No, you can't do that. I already said I bite your balls. You guys are both 69ing now. You've got your balls in each other's house. Okay, fine. Yeah. All right. We just hooked up, bro. I'm punching. And then, I mean, because two of you are going to grab me, and then I'm going to have to throw one, throw another one, beat this one, beat this one. Two and a half minutes to the end of it. Okay.

1:45:58Big Cat:I would be so pumped with two and a half minutes. Yeah. What about your nose? How's your nose doing? It's amazing. Yeah. Okay. So my theory was I would attack your nose. No, that's a terrible idea because I'm so used to not having a nose, so I'm going to be much better than other people. Okay. So explain that to people. You got a nose job for cosmetic reasons.

1:46:14PFT Commenter:Yes. Not actually for cosmetic reasons. It was for, because you couldn't breathe. You did the actual thing that like when girls say, oh, I couldn't breathe, right? I have sleep. It's like, no, you just wanted a nose job, which is fine. But there was a stat I saw that you were getting 9 % of your oxygen before and now you're getting 100%. Yeah. The oxygen is not, that was a typo or miscommunication was the airflow intake in this whole nostril was done. like there was this one actually that completely it was just shut so you just couldn't breathe out of your nose no there's no way that's why i would always breathe and if you think about just breathing through your mouth the whole time that's hyperventilating yeah and that would happen to me in every single fight it would go great conditioning wise it was just we are next level as soon as the pace gets in you start hyperventilating and that's why it didn't only look like i was struggling and i was struggling because it's just the uh you know the build-up in your blood it's you're you're gassing because you are only breathing even between rounds you can't breathe through your nose yeah so after that i mean i really hoped when i got this up because you can't think that something like that would change that much but that's what the experts told me what was wrong and i thought okay well if this doesn't work i'm gonna look like such an idiot because i really banged on that and it worked yeah it worked i mean it was it was you tell right away Yeah, I mean, the first fight after that was Robert Whittaker fights.

1:47:39After the nose job. She was called that. Yeah. And then I went five rounds with strickland. And then I went the four rounds with Adesanya, five rounds again. And yeah, it was evident. Now, I was getting so much shit for my cardio. So much shit. And then all of a sudden, people are like, Drake, his cardio is amazing. They're like, Drake is gassing just from typing this message. and now it's like people are drinkers has the best cardio in the whole UFC yeah it's amazing

1:48:11PFT Commenter:but I mean that's the game so you were you were playing basically on hard mode like you were and you were a very accomplished fighter you know what it was your record the 19 and 2 or something somewhere around there like that's pretty insane that you were able to do that just not being able to breathe yeah i would say uh my nose got pretty busted up badly around 2018 i would say about two years before the ufc and all the fights after between that and my ufc up until where tavares which was my third fight in 21 i think 20 22 22 yeah was first and second round finishes so that was the first time i realized the problem yeah because up until then from 2018 was all first rounds first rounds and then um or early second and then with uh brad went the distance and i was like ah this is obviously you're fighting top 15 guys then fighting darren till it went to the third round fighting derrick brunson it went to the second which was a ridiculous space first round and second and uh that's after i was actually after darren till fight saying okay i'm doing this and then they phoned me and saying you're fighting again in 12 weeks and i was like three weeks after the total fight i said okay after that fight and i'm very happy i made that decision because that was before the fight with with whitaker yeah so when you got

1:49:37Big Cat:you got the nose fixed did you have them shape it back to the original shape of your nose or were you like hey i want i'd like to get a new nose too well i have to say my nose never been really been like it's big it's not like it's bigger than it's like it's a normal size nose yeah it's it's it used to be a lot thinner but i mean no they only did the inside not the outside so when you're doing cardio getting up to you know these last couple weeks of camp how much are you actually running like what is the maximum you will push yourself to what do you mean maximum of myself Heart rate wise. Distance, speed.

1:50:07No, I mean, for me, running, you know, especially with knees and stuff with the sport we do, I know a lot of guys believe in running, but, you know, I understand in boxing you use a lot of running because you don't have to shoot double legs on your knees. You don't get kicked in the knees. I'm not a big fan, especially with the bigger guys. I think the smaller guys, a lot of running, it's not good for your knees. So I do running. I would prefer doing the salt bike instead of running. I do run at least once or twice a week, but at this stage it's if i'm doing long distance it's at a very slow pace just as a i would do an hour of running that's that's more of it it's an hour of running which is not about the pace i'm putting on it's about getting your heart rate to let's say 140 and staying keeping it there that's the for that zone of training and then of course we would do conditioning sessions where you try to push your heart rate as hard as you possibly can for 30 minutes at a time yeah so

1:51:04Big Cat:So if you had to choose, if you had a magic wand and you could be a professional rugby player or UFC champion, which one would you take? Yeah, I mean, I made that decision because, you know, that was the two choices for me. That's the two passions. The two sports that I pursued was rugby and MMA. And I chose MMA to possibly become a UFC champion. And I have not regretted that decision in a moment in my life. if I've chosen rugby if you look at the Springboks South African rugby team I know rugby is not massive in America but the Springboks are the best rugby team in the world by a long shot and I honestly don't believe that I would have been a great I would have been able to be one of the great rugby players or be in I don't even think maybe but I highly doubt it if you look at the boys they are big and they are the best in the world for a reason I don't see a spot for myself in the Springbok squad but I do see myself as the world champion and the greatest to ever do it in mixed martial arts.

1:52:04Big Cat:We had the Beast on the show. He's an awesome guy. He's amazing. Love that guy. And so the World Cup, are you going to go to the one in Australia? The World Cup? Yeah. I will never miss a rugby World Cup in my life again. Yeah. I mean, this last one was pretty good for you to watch. Yeah, it was amazing. Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, if you're the Springboks, every rugby game is good to watch.

1:52:23PFT Commenter:Yeah. How awesome is it after you win a fight like the next couple of weeks? you could just eat whatever you want is it the best i always daydream about that not like the like daydreaming about winning in the octagon i dream about daydreaming about like being able to eat whatever you want after yeah it's uh they always say in between rounds go to the go to the happy place go to your happy place when you're sitting in between rounds yeah you you know almost getting back to your center and i can tell you my happy place is then and i always i felt this even way before the ufc i was maybe 21 years old 20 and uh my mental coach said okay think about the happy your happy place to go to in between rounds to calm yourself and that is the next morning and it is to this day i can't wait for that to me waking up sore like ah but you just smile and you feel i did it you didn't don't have a worry in the world doesn't matter what's going on yeah walking down from the hotel seeing that buffet breakfast grabbing a beer instead and you know grabbing maybe 10 beers then starting to that buffet you know for the next couple of weeks the world's your oyster oh that's awesome that is that is it yeah just going you know what i'm gonna drink a beer yeah you know what i'm i'm going to eat all those pancakes i don't care that is that is the happy place that's the goal and by

1:53:52Big Cat:the time those couple weeks are over are you ready to get out of your happy place yeah yeah absolutely i mean for me that's i get i get to that position but because with me like i don't my whole life since i was 15 16 years old i've been training martial arts since i was five but that has been my mindset is becoming ufc champion becoming ufc champion i do this every day this is my full-time job what else am i going to do even when i'm when i'm in that happy place i I'll do that and I'll go train the next day I do at least a session every single day when I'm in the middle of that that first what say four weeks I'm training every day it's not I just can't even when we go away on holiday I would go for a two hour run I would you know I would find a tree to climb onto something because that is that's what I do every day it's my that is why I believe I am where I am it's true doing this every day for the past 13 years.

1:54:52Big Cat:So you started training when you were a little kid. Have you ever been bad at fighting? Was there a part of your life where you're getting your ass kicked? Only at home. To all their brothers. All their brothers, because they were good at it too. My middle brother, I'm the youngest, and I have one brother four years older, one seven, both national champions, multiple national champions in judo. My middle brother is a lawyer now, and also my manager manages everything for me. you know he's the smartest one in the family my middle brother and he also has a professional record of four and two but for him i was already fighting for my first professional title he was a four years running judo champion and he was like oh i'll try this and just went like three and oh as a pro lost his first fight won again just uh but for him it was he was being a lawyer while he did this he was just having fun with it my oldest brother is a you know he played both my brothers played very competitive rugby too my oldest brother is the one that taught me my first punches and kicks you know in in the garage he was my first couple of amateur fights i didn't have a coach my older brother was the one who showed me everything uh but it was more you know he was a bar brawler yeah and to this day there's a lot of people especially from his age people they go do you think you can beat your older brother by now i'm like of course i can what i mean but they're like i got a belt yeah yeah i'm the best in the world but back in the

1:56:18PFT Commenter:day he could bang oh imagine if you were the best in the world and then you still went home and your brother could beat you up yeah that would be terrible like i don't want to be the best in

1:56:25Big Cat:the world i just want to be able to beat you up yeah he's like i don't want to do this it's too much trouble but i want to beat you up yeah would other parents not want their kids to fight you it wasn't up to then but uh when i was uh yeah i think when i've i started fighting kickboxing amateur at 14 the age of 14 i became uh wako wako world champion amateur world champion at 18 by that time in south africa the sport's not that big so i was the first junior champion from South Africa, a WACA world champion ever in K1 kickboxing. And, you know, so now you can think about it. I just did that, came back, still had some amateur fights.

1:57:11So now, and I was a junior. So, I mean, I'm fighting kids my age, 16 to 18 years old. And I'm a world champion. And, you know, a lot of fights, when there's no kids to fight me, I would just fight in the seniors and beat them too. So that was, I think for it was good for me and I think good for the people under 18 years old you know moving into that into that bracket of not fighting high school kids anymore because that was a you know I was actually a professional fighter MMA fighter I was 4-0 or something in that line maybe 5-1 ish and there was a grappling tournament a big one it was the national championships and they and I was 19 team.

1:57:57So they went, no, you're fighting with the juniors. It's 21 and under. It's 18 to 21 is the one group. And I went, are you crazy? I'm a professional fighter. Right. And I'm fighting high school kids. Somebody, and they were like, no, if you get hurt, it's on us. And that was the dumbest thing ever because I went there and it was. You just killed everyone. Just killed everyone with that. And they went, okay. I think the first guy the first guy I had to fight was like he just asked me for an autograph just just before the fight and then he was like I'm fighting this guy and I just went he's like no

1:58:31Big Cat:I mean the fight's over before it starts yeah he was just like I'm not gonna fight you he just it was you from the competition he's like I'm not gonna grapple this guy yeah and then they put me in the next category so you know for for me that's fighting has been the one thing that was the opposite of throwing that hoop I've just been throwing that hoop yeah i've just been uh good at it it's it's something and it's not that i was good you know especially when it comes to striking and and all of that when it comes to grappling and wrestling i have a natural feel always been good at it but the striking stuff it is i'm not the most crisp and and you know it's pretty evident but when i'm like a sponge when when it comes to it i love nothing in this world more and then it's been like that since the first time i wanted to do this since i was 15.

1:59:18Big Cat:sometimes you when with your striking your leg kicks are so unorthodox that sometimes people don't know where it's coming from. You can catch them by surprise. Your shin goes in a different angle. It looks like you don't know what you're doing. Then you think that it's going to come from. If I'm not really sure what I'm going to do next, you are definitely not going to know. Yeah, that's true. That's a great point.

1:59:37PFT Commenter:They can't read you. No one knows what's... Alright, so UFC 319, Saturday, August 16, 2025 in Chicago. We're going to be there. We'll be cheering for you. I actually looked it up. You did win I think it was the Whitaker fight I bet on you because I have a tweet just saying your name. So you've won me money before. I appreciate that. That is great. I'm very happy to hear that. Yeah. So UFC 319 at the United Center. Do you have a prediction for what you're going to do Hamzat? A win. That I can tell you. Get a round? Maybe a face crank? Maybe a face crank. You know, it's... In the fight game it's just so hard.

2:00:13You know, I don't always see people... Always the safest route's probably going to go with TKO because you have one of... yeah you know it's because i'm never going to stop if i drop you i'm not going to stop i'm going to go for it so that's going to immediately be a tko anyway yeah so but as the fight goes longer i'm definitely getting stronger and you know everybody goes trickers has to get through the first round maybe the first two rounds and then you can get through the rounds what do you mean you know i want to get that guy out of there in the first round he needs to get through the first and second round i don't need to get through anything i'm gonna go in there and try to finish that fight from the first second to the last and that's how i fight i always have and i always will

2:00:54PFT Commenter:yeah uh do we have a question from hank our mma expert i think we might there he's our ufc expert how you going uh how you doing oh that's good uh fights in chicago do you care at all where you fight like vegas chicago new york are you just anytime anyplace anywhere yeah i mean for for me it almost became you know people saying oh why are they making you fight there it's uh and i remember a lot of guys even like a sean strickland he was so angry that he had to go to australia to fight me or even when he had to go to canada to fight and i know joe fiverr fiverr that's how you say his name right yeah he said he's never traveling to mexico or traveling again to fight he's fighting i went oh it must be nice because every time i go africa's in the middle but it's far away from everything right every every time i go and fight there has to be some relevance i i fight in foreign country i almost fight in enemy territory right and i've grown quite fond of that you know in earlier my career i was always the favorite you know crowd favorite in the efc i was champion there in south africa international guys came in i fought them in my home country it was amazing and then uh every fight in my uc career the last what five years have been away from home it's enemy territory the whole time and fighting crowd favorites like yeah you're fighting down to robert wittaker even though they're not from america everybody loves it now robert wittaker who doesn't love robert wittaker he's one of the coolest guys in the world we're gonna be heavy ddp on saturday yeah and you're afraid of a plane ride that's yeah that could be a problem so for me right now i it was it's i almost feel like you know flying conquering the land and you know i feel like a viking oh we need a map yeah where i go there where you've gone Now I also get to see the world doing what I love.

2:02:40And now I've really grown fond of traveling to different places and being able to fight. It's like fighting Chicago. This is the first time I've been in Chicago and it's been amazing. So yeah, I mean, it's one of the perks of the job, I guess. Not going to the same place every time because I fought in Vegas, I think, five times. You kind of get like, eh.

2:03:02PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah, it's cool. You get to go travel. But now I get to see Chicago and I went to Sydney and I went to Perth and you see all these places. I went to Abu Dhabi to fight. So you get to see the whole world while doing what you do. That's very cool.

2:03:18Big Cat:I got one last dumb question for you. A lot of people were talking about what would happen in a hypothetical fight, 100 people versus one silverback gorilla. I don't know if you saw the discourse regarding that. How many of you would it take to beat one gorilla? Well, 100 of me will kill that gorilla. Right. Yeah. I agree. But we would need at least 10. Okay. 10 of you. We would need at least 10.

2:03:41PFT Commenter:Yeah. Go after each limb. Gorillas don't fuck around. They don't fuck around. Yeah. You need one to be. One guy is going to have to sacrifice it, man. Yeah. You need one guy to sacrifice, maybe two. Then you need one to be able to grab the back. Yeah. You would submit it. Oh.

2:03:57Big Cat:Would that be your plan? Yeah.

2:03:58PFT Commenter:Gorillas don't tap. They don't. But they die. Yeah, but they don't tap. I don't care if they tap. I don't guess. They're not pussies.

2:04:05Big Cat:I'll just keep on choking until it dies. Okay. That's fair. Because I said I think you could take somewhere between five and ten UFC fighters. Yeah. And they could handle it. Five or ten. And I mean, while you're on the back choking, you get two others jumping on the legs. Yeah. One maybe kicking right at the nuts. Yeah. That's not a bad idea. One just straight while you're choking it. Yeah. Just punching it.

2:04:28PFT Commenter:That's what we do to you and here. Yeah. The three of us. And you think that we can't take you. Yeah. That was crazy when we were 69ing for a second. That was. That was. And yes, mistakes were made. All right. I got one last question. I am never beating the allegations. Thank you, guys. Well, I got this. Good segue to my last question. Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com. Promo code TAKE. You did kiss your coaches on the lips. I do kiss my coaches. Oh, so that was my question. Was that like we didn't just plan the right side?

2:05:01PFT Commenter:or you that's just what you do you kiss your coach on the lips yeah not coaches but my coach yeah okay your coach always on i catch yeah well not like the whole time yeah but i mean well how about we're talking like once a week um yeah okay yeah probably like once a week after like a good training session or maybe like we if i when i'm saying once a week it's it's it's more of a when something like you win a fight yeah i would kiss my brother every single day when i see him that's how we say hello i would kiss my father every day on the lips yeah um so my brother my father um my fiance yeah that's good do you ever slip tongue which is a on her yes no but on your brother no no oh you had to pause but bullying is real and um so you know my coach had been the only coach i've ever had in in the sport and you know my coach my family yeah you love them yeah yeah i love my coach i mean we've we've been together this whole journey we started from my very first before i was a professional all the way so you know he's part of my family and that's awesome so that's how it is and you know i know i get a lot of shit i don't i couldn't care less i'm a world champion do you think i care yeah listen good opinion it goes back to the basketball thing like uh i would love to talk shit about you just kissing a bunch of men on your on the lips but then you would beat my ass and then it's like I got my ass kicked by the guy who kisses his brother on the face.

2:06:25You say it on social media. I couldn't care less. I enjoy it because it's funny. Banter. I love it. Yeah. I love it. It's funny. So for me, it's banter 100%. I couldn't care less because that's the thing. I can go, well, not me, but you can give any world champion shit. And it's, yeah, I'm still a world champion. Yeah.

2:06:46Big Cat:You have that forever.

2:06:47PFT Commenter:Yeah.

2:06:47Big Cat:But it's also kind of nice to be behind a keyboard and to be able to talk shit to a world champion. That's it. It's a lot of fun. That's the same guy that's probably going to see you and be like, oh my gosh, get another photo. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Me and Big Cat kiss on the lips every year on our birthday. We share a birthday. Okay, so that's once a year. So we podcast together, yeah.

2:07:03PFT Commenter:Well, I mean, that's a very healthy - Yeah, exactly. All right, well, Drickus, this was awesome. We really, really appreciate you coming by. We're going to be rooting for you on Saturday. We'll be there. Maybe we'll - I'll take off my shirt if you win, all right? All right. I mean, we'd write, Drickus, go, Drickus. There's going to be a lot of guys ahead of you on that one. Yeah, that's true. There's quite a few South Africans coming in, and they probably might rock up without shirts. I love that. Well, all right, maybe I'll be the grossest guy with this shirt. I can do that for you. All right, thanks so much.

2:07:33Thanks for having me. It was awesome.

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2:08:32PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest, very, very special guest. It is Dana White, head of everything UFC. We have UFC 319 coming to Chicago on Saturday night. We will be there. We're very excited. Dana, first of all, congratulations. The big new deal with Paramount Plus and CBS,$7.7 billion. My first question is a dumb question. How much of that do you get?

2:09:01Dana White:Well, you know, I own stock in TKO. So, you know, I get a salary and I got some stock. Let me just put it to you this way. It doesn't suck.

2:09:13Big Cat:Okay. Yeah. Okay. Does anything about your life change after this deal?

2:09:16Dana White:No, nothing.

2:09:18Big Cat:Okay. Are you going to treat yourself to anything?

2:09:21Dana White:No. I don't need anything. I will have fries with that.

2:09:23Big Cat:Yeah.

2:09:23Dana White:I literally don't need anything. I have everything I need. I'm good. What happens when you get a deal like this done is, you know, now it's time to go to work. It's just every day, no matter what you've done last year, whatever you did yesterday, day, you're still proving yourself and you still have to get out there and kick ass every day. So now we have to get together with the powers that be on their side and figure out the scheduling and what we're going to do and how it's going to be different, how we can do, you know, big events and just every day when you get up, it's a grind and you continue to prove yourself every year.

2:09:59Dana White:You know, every year when you end a year, you look at how do we beat last year? Right, right. When you do that for 25 years, you know. Yeah, it's pretty good.

2:10:10PFT Commenter:It's pretty good. All right, so when you announced the deal, everyone was like, oh, yeah, pay-per-view's dead. This is incredible. New model. At what point during the day on Monday when the announcements were going out, were you like, oh, fuck, I still have five more pay-per-views this calendar year that I got to sell?

2:10:24Dana White:Pay-per-view isn't dead. I mean, I'm going to do a pay-per-view this Saturday. Yeah. And when we're doing this deal, you know, even with the streaming services that we were talking to, all the different ones, you know, some of them still had pay-per-view options. So pay-per-view is not dead. That's not true. This isn't going to be a pay-per-view deal. So it's incredible for the fans.

2:10:45Big Cat:Yeah.

2:10:46Dana White:I mean, I saw this thing somebody posted yesterday, you know, during the era that we're in now, it's like$1 ,100 to be a UFC fan to watch everything. Now it's like$150 or$115 or something to be a UFC fan.

2:11:01Big Cat:Yeah, there's going to be no more pay-per-views on this deal until this deal expires. Right. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. I think that people should probably enjoy that as a fan. It's very fan-friendly. Are you going to miss having to go out there and sell fights, though?

2:11:16Dana White:No. So this is how this really works when you think about it. You know, for the last several years, people have been talking about, oh, your competitors, your competitors. My competitors are the NFL, the NBA, whatever movie comes out on Saturday. Anything that takes people's attention away on a Saturday night is my competitor. So I still have to go out and convince you to stay home on Saturday night and watch these fights.

2:11:42PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. What does it mean for the fighters? Are they going to get – because a lot of the fighters, obviously big fighters, they would get a cut of the pay-per-view. now if there's less pay-per-views is it like the the base goes up how does that work yeah um

2:11:57Dana White:listen when you do a deal like this it's obviously it's we're talking about how good it is for the fans it's obviously good for the company but it's incredible for the fighters and you know we always had a model where you eat what you kill type thing uh with the pay-per-views mathematically you just figure that out it's going to be incredible since 2001 the day we bought this company fighter pay has gone up every new deal that we've done fighter pay has gone up and obviously fighter pay will go up for this deal it's it's a really not just um financially for the fighters but the the amount of uh exposure now that they're going to get more people can tune in uh you know for 12.99 than they could for 80 plus dollars yeah yeah it's a great deal i i got a dumb question

2:12:47PFT Commenter:about when did you start negotiating this deal? How long does it take? Because it's a massive, massive deal between two massive companies. It's a lot of money. When does that start to take shape?

2:12:58Dana White:Yeah, so a few months ago, our negotiation window opened up. As soon as it opened, we started talking to all the major players. And that's why there was talk of we could end up on multiple networks or just one. And literally in the last three days of last week, David Ellison came in and said, this is an all or nothing deal. I want everything. And the thing was negotiated in like 48 hours.

2:13:28PFT Commenter:Oh, that's a, was it you negotiating with him or was it, you know, obviously lawyers were involved, but like, were you sitting there?

2:13:35Dana White:Listen, my partner is the greatest agent to ever walk the face of the earth, Ari Emanuel. That's what he does. and Mark Shapiro, I think Mark Shapiro has forgot more about the television business than most people know. So you couldn't have two better guys, you know, in there handling it.

2:13:55Big Cat:Okay. That sounds exciting. Yeah. Sounds like a good thing for UFC fans. I know being able to have a streaming service that, you know, is trustworthy, reliable, always there is going to be a great thing for them. And I know that you've got the Contender Series kicking off too, which you're very excited about. So tell, yeah.

2:14:12Dana White:My favorite show ever.

2:14:14Big Cat:Why are you so excited about the Contender Series? Why should I be excited as a self-admitted UFC casual?

2:14:19Dana White:If you like fights at all, if you like fighting, if you like to watch fights, on Tuesday nights, there is a jack shit on TV, and you can tune in to, you know, we take the best unsigned guys in the world that are not under contract with the UFC, and it's like an interview, job interview. You come in, and you have three rounds to show me who you are. And a win doesn't mean you're just going to get into the UFC. You've got to show me who you are. Show me what you've got. These kids come in and put on some of the greatest fights ever. It's already created world champions. It's already created top 10 fighters in their divisions in the UFC.

2:15:00Dana White:It is the greatest show on television. I love it. And I wish I could do it every Tuesday for 52 weeks a year.

2:15:07PFT Commenter:It is awesome because it is like that that climb that you're watching guys try to make and the hunger they have is completely different than a guy who's made it. You know, what's the old, you know, they don't do road work and silk pajamas or whatever it is. Like once you get there, it changes your your your perspective. So this is I love watching it as well because this guy's just going fucking balls to the wall trying to impress you.

2:15:32Dana White:So true. And what ends up happening for us is, you know, the show's done so well. that by the time before they even set foot in the UFC, you know, millions of people have already seen him fight. They already have some hype behind him. And, you know, we already have great highlights of him. So it is literally the perfect, the perfect TV show.

2:15:52Big Cat:So me and Big Cat are very excited about UFC 319. We had Drikus DuPlessis in the studio, and I think we have no choice but to bet on him and to root for the guy. Seems like a fun guy. Great shit talker. Give us an undercard that we should keep our eye on, because I think me and Big Cat are both going to go to the fights.

2:16:07PFT Commenter:Yeah, oh, yeah. Actually, I wanted to ask where you think we're going to be sitting.

2:16:11Dana White:Well, this whole card is a fun card. I don't know if you guys saw the fights last weekend. Again, whole card was incredible. That's what we do. But it is hard to not talk about this main event. Kamzat Samaev is back actually fighting in the United States. He's been fighting overseas for the last couple of years. in Chicago. We haven't been in Chicago since before the pandemic. Sold out like this. The energy, the buzz, everything in there and that fight is going to be badass. There's no way that the main event is not the fight of the night.

2:16:50PFT Commenter:I love it.

2:16:50Big Cat:Big Cat had a fair question.

2:16:51PFT Commenter:Where are we going to be sitting? Where are you sitting us? So it's going to be me, PFT, Max and Hank. So the four guys from PMT I've been talking to Hunter. Smaller hunter not bigger hunter you got too many hunters by the way that's fascinating yeah that's that's too many hunters where are you gonna where are you gonna put us we're gonna be in a are we gonna be

2:17:10Dana White:a good spot well let me ask you a question when has barstool ever shown up to a ufc event and

2:17:15PFT Commenter:has shitty seats that's true that's a good point good point a really good fact so i'm in miami

2:17:20Dana White:right now dropping my daughter off i'm flying home tonight to do the uh contender series then i turn right around and fly to detroit for a meeting i'll be in chicago thursday for the press conference and I will sit down with Amber and that's when I will go through and make sure that everybody's sitting where I want them to sit. I love it. You will be taken care of, I promise.

2:17:39PFT Commenter:I love it. If you want to have some free ice cream, you can come to our office. That's a pretty good trade. You guys have free ice cream? Yeah, I bought an ice cream machine. Soft serve ice cream machine. Never too rich for free ice cream. Yeah, come on.

2:17:52Dana White:No, I agree. I have a soft serve ice cream machine in my house.

2:17:57PFT Commenter:What's the model? Do you know what the model is? What? Do you know what the model of the machine is? No, I have no idea. Oh, man. What flavors?

2:18:06Dana White:I would be a sick, demented motherfucker if I knew what the model of the machine was.

2:18:11PFT Commenter:No, that would mean you cared about your ice cream.

2:18:16Big Cat:Come on. Yeah, what flavors do you have in your own house?

2:18:19Dana White:It could do the vanilla or chocolate, or you could do the swirl.

2:18:23PFT Commenter:Okay, so you probably have the same machine as I have. Do you have a topping bar?

2:18:27Dana White:Yes, got all the shit. that goes on it, of course.

2:18:29PFT Commenter:Are you eating ice cream these days? I am not. No, unfortunately.

2:18:34Dana White:Unfortunately, I am not.

2:18:35PFT Commenter:Do you do cheat days, or are you just straight like...

2:18:38Dana White:I cheated yesterday, and guess what? I'm going to fucking wreck Chicago. I'm going to Gibson's, I'm going to Lou Malnati's, and I was watching Diners, Dives and Drives, and whatever the fuck the name of that show is, and they had this place that they say is the best pasta in America, and they were showing all that stuff. I got to Google it and find it. I'm going to track that place down, and I'm going there, too. There will be no keto in Chicago. I love that.

2:19:04Big Cat:So you have an ice cream machine in your house that's strictly ornamental, just so you can be like, if you want ice cream, it's right there.

2:19:11Dana White:Yeah.

2:19:13Big Cat:How's the workout regimen these days? You look pretty jacked.

2:19:16Dana White:I'm going literally right across the street here in Miami is Gary Brecka's place. I'm going over there in a minute. I'm going to cold plunge and sauna and do some stuff with him.

2:19:25PFT Commenter:When did you become a black T-shirt guy? At what point was that like, hey, I'm just black t-shirts?

2:19:30Dana White:I don't think I'm a black t-shirt guy. I'm a black t-shirt, black suit. I mean, everything I do is black.

2:19:36PFT Commenter:But the black t-shirt, I made that shift probably two, three years ago where it's like, I'm just going to be a black t-shirt guy. That happens. That shift does happen. You definitely made it, whether you realize it or not.

2:19:48Dana White:I've always been a fan of black.

2:19:50PFT Commenter:Okay. Okay. So I feel like there's got to be what, like 15 years ago? Did you miss the Ed Hardy days?

2:19:56Big Cat:I feel like you had some more graphic t-shirts back in the day.

2:19:59Dana White:Did you know I never did the Ed Hardy shit? I did some other goofy shit. I was wearing something. Let me tell you what. I wish that whole goofy era could just disappear and go away. I don't know what the hell everybody was thinking then.

2:20:11PFT Commenter:Did you ever own a pair of bedazzled jeans?

2:20:14Dana White:No, that I never did. Thank God. I think you're lying on that one.

2:20:18Big Cat:What about the jeans?

2:20:19Dana White:I swear to God, I never wore bedazzled, but I was wearing those. What the hell was the name? True religion.

2:20:25Big Cat:Yeah. Oh, that's pretty close to the dazzled.

2:20:28Dana White:Yeah. I don't disagree.

2:20:30Big Cat:The acid wash with the tears in them, the giant tears. Do you have any pairs of jeans and holes in them?

2:20:34Dana White:It was huge, and then it just disappeared.

2:20:37PFT Commenter:Yeah. Oh, I got another question about your deal with Paramount Plus CBS. What does this mean for Joe Rogan?

2:20:42Dana White:Everything's good for Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan has no problems in life whatsoever. Joe Rogan was doing great before the deal. He's going to do just fine after the deal.

2:20:51PFT Commenter:Okay. So he's going to be on all the fights going forward. and it's not anything's changing about the announcing team.

2:20:57Dana White:Yeah, listen, Joe Rogan isn't here at the UFC because of the money. He did the first 12 events for free. Joe Rogan has a time problem. Right. That's the only thing Joe Rogan has. Joe has a time problem. If Joe didn't have a time problem, he'd be doing – he'd even be doing the fight nights. Shit, he'd be at the Contender Series tonight.

2:21:18Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah, and John Anik. We're still good with John Anik.

2:21:20Dana White:Yep.

2:21:21Big Cat:Okay.

2:21:21Dana White:Everything's staying the same as far as the team goes.

2:21:24Big Cat:Okay. Okay, I love that. So have you given any thoughts of who's going to fight at the White House?

2:21:29Dana White:No, I haven't thought about it. It's still a year away. So, you know, the landscape will change a lot over the next seven months. So, no, no idea yet.

2:21:38Big Cat:Do you have fighters that are coming up to you and asking you, hey, can I be the one to fight at the White House?

2:21:43Dana White:Everybody wants to fight on that card, as they should. I mean, it's going to be a one-of-one, once-in-a-lifetime, incredible experience. So at the end of this month, on the 28th, I'm flying to D.C. to sit down with him and Ivanka. I got all the renderings done, and me and my head of production, Craig Borsori, are flying out there at the end of the month to meet with those guys and get it all rolling.

2:22:07Big Cat:Because I got an idea for who you should have fight there. Who? Hunter Biden and Don Jr. I think that would be a very tough one. What do you mean? No drug testing. No drug testing. No drug testing.

2:22:22Dana White:No drug testing.

2:22:24Big Cat:Hunter Biden and Don Jr. I mean, you want to get numbers, Dana. That's going to get numbers.

2:22:29Dana White:All right. I'll consider it.

2:22:32Big Cat:That would be good. If you don't do it, I will. I'll set the fight up. I'll counter program. You should.

2:22:36Dana White:You should do that on your barstool thing you do. What's the name of that show? Rough and Rowdy. Rough and Rowdy. There you go. Rough and Rowdy. There you go. That's broken. Yeah. Hey, is Conor McGregor ever going to fight in the UFC again? I mean, if you see, he's been posting videos of himself training. He's back in the pool now. He wants the White House fight.

2:22:54PFT Commenter:Okay. Because, like, yeah, I've seen him train, but I've also seen him party a lot recently. I've seen a lot of photos of him recently. Yeah, there's been some photos. There's been a lot of things going around. So I didn't know if he was coming back.

2:23:06Dana White:Well, listen, if he starts getting in shape and training and stays the course, that's the fight he wants. He keeps telling me he wants that fight. So we'll see how it plays out over the next several months.

2:23:19Big Cat:Okay, so for this fight that we're going to be going to here in Chicago, can you give us something in the undercards to look for, like a cool storyline in one of the prelims?

2:23:28Dana White:There's some good prelim fights. Alexander Hernandez and Chase Hooper. Okay. That is a very fun fight. Loopy and Jessica Andrade, the whole card is bad. Listen to me. You're asking me which fight you're going to be. Show up to the first prelim of the night. don't be the guys that show up like the fight before the main event. Okay. If they're early, the card's going to be badass. The Hooper Hernandez fight should be absolute fireworks and fun. But with all the great undercard fights, I'd still say it's impossible for the main event not to be the fight of the night.

2:24:05PFT Commenter:Yeah. I'm excited. Yeah. What would you say to people who like Savannah Bananas are actually in town as well? So you're going head-to-head with the Savannah Bananas in Chicago Saturday night. Did we lose you?

2:24:18Dana White:Yeah, you lost me. Are you out of your fucking mind?

2:24:25PFT Commenter:Listen, people are wondering. There's definitely some people out there that are like, should I take my five-year-old to the Savannah Bananas or the UFC?

2:24:31Big Cat:You sound like a boxing promoter when UFC was coming out initially. Like, oh, these fucking guys, who cares?

2:24:37Dana White:We're already sold out on Saturday night. I understand, but you never know, Savannah Bananas. I'm not shitting on the bananas, But, you know, these guys are killing it What they've done with that business Is fucking incredible It's absolutely incredible Yeah It's crazy what they've done You're either a UFC guy or you're a Savannah Banana guy Why not both?

2:25:00Big Cat:Have the fighters do little fun dances

2:25:02Dana White:I don't know what time is to start You're saying which event should you go to

2:25:06PFT Commenter:I might do a double header Fuck it I might do three innings of the bananas And get to the UFC fights at like 8.30 Get them both in. I'm going to be watching on my phone ringside. Has anyone ever done that? Probably not. I might be the first person who did a doubleheader Bananas UFC.

2:25:21Dana White:Yeah, or you could go to the Bananas and watch the fights on your phone while you're there. Live on pay-per-view. There we go.

2:25:29PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah. I have one last question. It's a Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com. Promo code TAKE. All right. So the deal's incredible with Paramount Plus. There could be less pay-per-views. Do you feel like you're kind of stealing from the guys who are stealing from you, the guys who are pirating all the pay-per-views? They really have nothing left to do if you get rid of the pay-per-views. Like, what do they have to live for, Dana? That's funny. No, that's a good point. Good point. You ended the game.

2:26:04PFT Commenter:That's not fair. There was a cat and mouse game going on. You were going after them. I do love that clip where it's like you killing Osama Bin Laden. Like, we got him. We got the guy. We found the guy who's on Cracked or Stream East. We got him.

2:26:18Dana White:You know what's fun? During that era, we got a lot of guys. We really did get a lot of guys. So I was doing a – I was shooting that show that I was telling you about earlier, looking for a fight down in – I think it was in Memphis. and uh like some guy like walked out with a fucking gun uh into the street was looking for me because we had caught him stealing the pay-per-view and like he he almost lost his bar oh shit yeah it was a weird thing uh uh but yeah we we really got some people during that time and everybody thinks it's funny till uh till you get fucking caught yeah did you personally do any

2:27:00Big Cat:that did you like find a stream and like send it to your top people like hey look this guy's on his

2:27:05Dana White:couch right now streaming it we had a whole team put together we we literally have a whole if if you looked into our anti-piracy team and and how it's run and and what we do it's it's impressive

2:27:18Big Cat:yeah but think about what about them yeah what are they gonna do they don't have jobs anymore

2:27:22Dana White:piracy team yeah well everybody out there thinks oh there's millions of people how can they possibly catch me it is it is impressive the setup on the anti-piracy team and how they do catch these guys

2:27:34Big Cat:yeah uh my last last question i know it's been a while since this was brought up to you but if we get a knockout in the main event i know that drickus doesn't think he's going to knock anybody out but if we get a knockout will you oil up oh i don't even know what that means you know what oil up you oiled up loot we talked about that head yeah talk to me what's it mean means Rubbing oil on yourself You're gonna oil up Diddy party

2:28:03PFT Commenter:Do you still get the comments

2:28:04Dana White:Do you still get the oil up comments It's insane It's insane I'll be oiling up no matter what happens On Saturday night

2:28:13PFT Commenter:Yeah we're gonna bring oil I'll oil up You give us a hug and a dap And you'll be oiled up So we'll do that for the people Alright All right, Dana.

2:28:25Dana White:This fucking interview just went south quick.

2:28:27PFT Commenter:Oh, it's been going south since the beginning. That's why we love it. It's okay. Yeah, actually, no, here's the last, last question. Our UFC, so we have a UFC expert on this show on Pardon My Take. He's not here right. Oh, no, he is here. Hank, do you have a question? This is Hank Lockwood, who you know very well as well. He said last week, I love UFC more than anyone, but it's very violent. Do we think it's maybe too violent for guys like Hank?

2:28:53Dana White:Wait a minute. He's a big fan. Yeah. And he said, I love UFC more than anything, but it's too violent. Yeah. That's the weirdest fucking thing I've ever heard.

2:29:05PFT Commenter:It is. It is very weird. It's the duality of man. I just love the art of the sport. He just loves it so much. Got it. But there are times where he's like, ooh, that's too violent. Like striking.

2:29:17Big Cat:But maybe like a little less punching.

2:29:21PFT Commenter:all right Dana you probably were like what the fuck did I just do all right we'll see you this weekend uh we're excited UFC 319 in Chicago you'll be able to see us uh not you know what let's get at least one AWO buys a pay-per-view just so they can see us for those like two seconds they show us on camera uh but Drickus is gonna be awesome and uh it's gonna be a great event and Dana thanks so

2:29:42Dana White:much and congrats again thanks boys I appreciate it I'll see you Saturday

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2:30:37PFT Commenter:Okay, let's wrap up the show. We've got part of your takes, sports part of your takes, before football season. Who on the show would be the funniest Slash best start to the season Hot like 5-0 And then immediately lose every game The rest of the season

2:30:52Big Cat:Oh I've got one Okay give it to us Memes The Jets would be very Because we would get memes just absolutely melting down Like a crazy meltdown It's so mean but it's so true It is true you know I'm right

2:31:08PFT Commenter:I think that's yeah and I feel like that question is basically just mere memes because that would be the most likely outcome as our teams do something good for a small window and then just completely fall on their face.

2:31:21Big Cat:That kind of did happen to the Bears last year.

2:31:22PFT Commenter:Yeah. After the Jacksonville game in London, I was like, this team is fucking good. They were not.

2:31:30Big Cat:But they kind of were. You win that Washington game, 6-2. Yeah, it did kind of happen.

2:31:37PFT Commenter:And I did say some reckless shit. So, yeah. I guess that would be fun. I mean, Max would. But Max just won a Super Bowl. Yeah. Can't be upset. No.

2:31:47Big Cat:He will be. But actually, that'd be funny because Max would get upset. Then we'd have to go the other way and just remind Max how he's not allowed to be upset. Yeah. And that would make him more angry.

2:31:57PFT Commenter:Hank would be sneaky funny just because we'd get to see like Hank locking back in and then just locking back out. Yeah. That would be a very funny ride. Just be like you'd have a lot of bravado and swagger. And then to watch it go back to nothing would be funny. Yeah, fair. Okay. So, yeah, PFT and Max, I think, are excused from it because their teams are actually good. It would just suck. And they have, like... But if you're actually a good team and you start 5-0, it's like... Yeah, but if you win 5-0, you would be 10 out of 10 excited. Oh, it would be insane. Insane.

2:32:36Big Cat:I'd be saying reckless. If you go 5-0, if your team is sitting perfect after five weeks, you are thinking soupy big time.

2:32:44PFT Commenter:You're thinking undefeated.

2:32:45Big Cat:If the Jets are 5-0, it's a wrap.

2:32:48PFT Commenter:Just pray for everyone. The amount of hate I'd get online from the Jets being 5-0 would be insane. The Justin Fields. Sorry, I got a take. All right. Should we be concerned that Caleb is not playing meaningful minutes in August when he's clearly not even the 17th best quarterback in the league? Good question. I think the reasoning was they did extended practices with the Dolphins, and he got a shitload of reps in live tackling reps with the Dolphins. And what does eight reps on Sunday do that he can't do with 30 reps against the Dolphins? Now, preference? I would have liked to see him play. I would have.

2:33:33PFT Commenter:How's Bajan looking? Bajan's good. He just doesn't have an arm. Yeah. Like, that's really what – he's a good – he's a smart guy, tough guy,

2:33:42Big Cat:can make some of the throws, not all of the throws. If Bajan didn't have tattoos, would you be talking about him like he is a potential, like, 12-year backup quarterback?

2:33:50PFT Commenter:If you could just pump a little more arm into Bajan. Yeah. It would be sick. But, yeah, I would have liked to see him play. Would you have liked to see Jaden play?

2:33:58Big Cat:No. No, I was thinking about that because there will be a couple times a game when Jaden gets hit where I'm like, oh, my God, what happened? Yeah. And I just – I don't – put him in bubble wrap. Lock him in a room. Yeah.

2:34:08PFT Commenter:I would have preferred to see Caleb play, but I also understand the fact that he did do extended, extended practices that were live reps. Most violent practice they've ever seen. I like that. Yeah. Hey, fellas. If each of you were offered the chance to implement one wacky rule change within reason in the NFL prior to the start of the season, what would you pick? I've always liked the idea of maybe one point if you can kick it through the uprights on a kickoff.

2:34:35Big Cat:I was going to say four-point field goal. Anything above 60 yards. Or like one point if you hit the crossbar on a kickoff.

2:34:42PFT Commenter:Yeah. I wouldn't mind one fifth down a game. It's like we get one fifth down. When do you use it? Yeah. When do you use it? You should get one extra.

2:34:52Big Cat:Yeah.

2:34:53PFT Commenter:It's not bad. That would add a nice element of, because then we would have another thing we criticize coaches for too. No fourth quarter though. Everyone would just save it for the fourth quarter. I don't think that's true. No? No. No, there would definitely be times where teams would use it in the first if they're like goal line and they're like, hey, we got to get seven here. And then we could criticize them. I mean, think about it with challenges in the NBA. Coaches burn their challenges in the first quarter sometimes.

2:35:18Big Cat:I think one guy getting a knife would be a good addition too.

2:35:20PFT Commenter:One guy getting a knife would be awesome. Also, maybe one series where you could do multiple forward passes. I like that. That would be really – like this is our forward pass series. I like that a lot. You just have a different playbook where a guy could be like 10 yards down the field and he just throws it again.

2:35:37Big Cat:The XFL had you can do two forward passes on the same play if the first pass is completed behind the line of scrimmage. Okay. So if there was like a screen pass, that guy could then throw a pass. Yeah. What about lineman touchdowns count as more?

2:35:49PFT Commenter:Ooh. Yeah. But they have to kick the extra point for it to count more.

2:35:52Big Cat:Okay. I like that now. I like that. Yeah. I said this, I think, two years ago, but if anybody above 300 pounds kicks the extra point, it's worth two. But what about linemen scores

2:36:04PFT Commenter:And it's a regular touchdown And if they kick the extra point It's like another four points Yeah But it has to be the linemen scores first And it has to be You can't just put a tight end at tackle It has to be a real lineman

2:36:20Big Cat:It has to be over 280 pounds Yeah I think you're allowed to get 12 men on the field For one play per drive But the 12th man has to be your head coach I like that on defense what do you guys think about a blind play what do you mean

2:36:37PFT Commenter:just everyone puts on blindfolds on both sides of the ball

2:36:39Big Cat:that'd be fun and the ball beeps what happened who knows there just has to be one blind play per game

2:36:49PFT Commenter:Jameis threw 40 touchdowns when he was blind what about if it was one blind play but the quarterback can see and the middle linebacker can see they're just yelling to each other yeah I like that

2:36:59Big Cat:you direct everyone else on your team

2:37:01PFT Commenter:Yeah, one blind play. Okay. My preseason part of my take is that Aiden Hutchinson will lead the NFL in sacks and win defensive player of the year. He got robbed of a season last year and will come out balls hot this year. Okay. All right. I mean, he's a great player. Yeah, he was awesome last year until he got hurt.

2:37:22Big Cat:He did snap his leg.

2:37:24PFT Commenter:Yeah, I wonder how ready to go he is.

2:37:27Big Cat:I think he'll be ready.

2:37:28PFT Commenter:Yeah. hey big cat pft hank max memes and new addition zach my preseason take is that the chiefs will not win 10 games this season i think they'll still be a good football team but i think they'll lose a lot of close games and my homes will be in his real real retooling year this offseason also take mike variable coach of the year and christian gonzalez dpo i i like this okay so i like everything this guy's saying he kind of he he kind of pussyfooted that take though because if the Chiefs don't win 10 games they're not a good football team they're not gonna make the playoffs right so you're just just come out with your chest and say they're not gonna make the playoffs this

2:38:07Big Cat:is uh this is wish casting I think we all engage in some of this a lot of fan bases do before the season starts which is like maybe this is the year that the Chiefs just suck and we don't have to

2:38:15PFT Commenter:worry about them but that's not the case I would say that this is this does feel like the offseason that the rest of the AFC is as close to the Chiefs as they've been in a while yeah I mean

2:38:26Big Cat:And Kelsey, he'll probably step it up in the playoffs, but he didn't look as good as he has last year.

2:38:33PFT Commenter:They're caring about their podcast more?

2:38:35Big Cat:Yeah, sad.

2:38:36PFT Commenter:It's really sad.

2:38:37Big Cat:Very sad to see.

2:38:38PFT Commenter:Really sad. Okay.

2:38:40Big Cat:That's why I quit playing my attempts to play in the NFL because of the podcast because you can only focus on one of the two.

2:38:45PFT Commenter:Yeah, laser focus. Any more? That's it.

2:38:51Big Cat:Okay. All right.

2:38:53PFT Commenter:Good show, boys. Yeah. We'll be all together The internet invitation Which won't be live It's pre-taped So it'll come out When does it come out? December? October October So But we will all be together We'll have a PMTV next week A little behind the scenes of us There I think we have a pool Oh I love that How are you in a pool Zach? I can swim Okay Oh yeah you had a pool Yes sir How are you underwater? I can hold my breath as well Decent Should we try to maybe do some Navy SEALs training?

2:39:27Big Cat:I've done a Navy SEAL with you guys. Buds.

2:39:29PFT Commenter:Yeah. Can we put a GoPro underwater? Sure. Okay. Yeah. Maybe we do that one where you have to kick off the bottom and come up. We tie our hands and our feet.

2:39:41Big Cat:We just put Zach on POV, like when you put a GoPro on a dog and have him go around.

2:39:45PFT Commenter:Yeah.

2:39:45Big Cat:That'd be fun.

2:39:46PFT Commenter:I'm down to get dangerous. You're thinking tie hands and feet? Yeah, I'm down to get dangerous. All right. If you're down, I'm down. Okay. Let's do it. Could be good team building. PFT's got a tournament he's got to worry about, but we don't. No, I don't really care. We could just test ourselves. We could drown ourselves. I'm down there to have fun. Yeah. We could drown ourselves. All right, number three.

2:40:06Big Cat:I think that was me.

2:40:07PFT Commenter:I think PFT. 22. I don't know about you. Oh, I asked for Mount Rushmore's yesterday. There was a good idea. The Mount Rushmore of numbers meme should pick. That's a good one. Should we do that right now and see if one of our teams gets it? Yeah, I mean, I think you should take three. All right, let's do a regular one, and then we'll do that real quick. We'll rip it real quick. All right, so you have three? Yep. What do you have, Memes?

2:40:36PFT Commenter:Do 21. Okay. LT, Jet. I'm going to do 17. I'll do six. 31. 22. 99, Pug. Come on, three.

2:40:47Big Cat:18. 85. I see three.

2:41:03PFT Commenter:67. 67.

2:41:05Big Cat:67.

2:41:05PFT Commenter:All right, real quick. Same order as we just did our Mount Rushmore. Okay. The Mount Rushmore of numbers that memes should pick. And does this count officially? No, it doesn't. No, come on. What do you mean? All right, go ahead, Max. You guys are up first.

2:41:19Big Cat:We're on the same team. I think memes can't take part in this because it's the Mount Rushmore. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You should pick. Yeah, memes is out of this.

2:41:25PFT Commenter:Memes is out of this. All right, Max. 92. Okay. Team Zach and Big Cat will go three. That's a good number. We'll go six and 77. Okay. 77, good. Six, 77. Zach, give us one. We'll go 91. 91. Okay, Max, you have two picks. We'll go 76 and 85. 91, John Tamar. Piece of shit. All right. I want to go. Let's go. I don't even remember what my first pick was. Let's go. Zach, give us a 41. You guys have two.

2:41:57Big Cat:We had six and 77. Yep.

2:42:00PFT Commenter:Now you have two more. Two more picks. You got it. Oh, okay.

2:42:02Big Cat:So then I'm going to go with 19 and 95.

2:42:09PFT Commenter:95. All right. We will finish with 23. We'll do 56. Okay. All right. So Team Max has 92, 76, 85, 56. Zach and I have 391, 41, 23. PFT and Hank have 6, 77, 19, and 95. Outrush more of numbers that memes should pick. What if Max gets this? If one of us gets it, it counts for a Mount Rushmore point. Deal? For a Mount Rushmore point? Yeah, it counts for... Deal. If someone gets it, you get one point. Deal.

2:42:42Big Cat:44.

2:42:47PFT Commenter:Is it 20? 20. Oh, I should have taken that. We'll have to do that again. Yeah, that was good. Fun game. Fun game.

2:42:55Big Cat:Love you guys. You're never going to get it.

2:43:28We'll be right back.

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