Final Four Weekend As Michigan And UConn Advance, John Fanta Talks CBB + Possibly Taking The UNC Job, Geno Crash Out + National Sports Podcast Topics And Who's Back

13:20PFT Commenter:it up right now the last three times they've scored less than 65 has all been yukon there

13:24Big Cat:you go because i knew it was um yeah i think it was 62 or 61 points against yukon this year

13:29PFT Commenter:and it happened in the tournament two years ago in the elite eight yeah so that defense

13:32Big Cat:from UConn has Illinois' number. It just does. And yeah, it was bad shot selection. It was also panicking, and it was shots being affected, and it was just UConn swarming defense.

13:43PFT Commenter:The saddest place to be in a Final Four is at the team hotel after a loss. I was staying at the Illinois hotel. I drove back last night, but I went back to get my bags, and it's just so tough because the Final Four is, you guys have all been to it, it's like a festive, fun atmosphere. everyone's having the best time you're with your college friends there's just a vibe to it and then to have it ripped out of you on saturday night and you just kind of look up and you say what what

14:13Big Cat:the fuck i just want to go home yeah it's the worst feeling i i imagine i i saw brad underwood being interviewed and he just kept saying that he was sad yeah he's just like i'm just my emotions are sad right now it was an incredible season for for annoying yeah it was it was it was a great season and it stinks that it's ripped away from you but UConn was just a much better team yeah there was just much better and I the thing is I don't know if UConn is a I don't know what what Danny Hurley would say if you talk to him about like ranking the three teams that he's coached to the to the championship game um my guess is that he would not say that this no is the most talented team that he's had that's reached the championship game I think that would probably be his second one that you put up there, but he might say that this is the best team.

14:55Big Cat:Like the way that they operate as a team to be able to get here that since they might not have the talent that they had a couple years ago to be able to reach the championship, it might be the best overall all-around team that he's had.

15:07PFT Commenter:Yeah. I mean, think about who they've now beaten on this run here. They beat – the Furman game was weird. The UCLA was a little bit closer. Terrace Reed was unbelievable. UCLA was close, but they were, you know, Mick Cronin, UCLA, they were playing good basketball down the stretch. Michigan State was a dark horse Final Four team. Duke was the number one seed overall. And Illinois had just gone to Houston and bullied Houston in their house. They've had a hell of a path, and just every time you're like, hey, UConn, no way could they keep this up. They just keep answering it.

15:44Big Cat:They keep doing it. So they shot 36 % from three, which I think they were happy with. what do you think they're going to need to shoot from three to win on Monday night? What would that percentage be?

15:56PFT Commenter:Probably 39-40. Yeah.

15:59Big Cat:Above 40, they could take it down.

16:00PFT Commenter:Carabin's going to have to start hitting some threes. He's been in a funk, and he's going to – because you're going to need – I think that's the difference. I think when, you know, solo ball, who's actually in a walking boot, but solo ball going three for seven, I think Braylon Mullins was four for seven. Carabin was one for seven. You need Carabin to also be four for seven. Yeah. Then it feels like you have a chance.

16:21Big Cat:And then my other question was, have we reached the Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard with Braylon Mullins is from Indiana.

16:28PFT Commenter:Yeah, we're pretty close. I think we're pretty close. Did you know that, Hank?

16:31Big Cat:Braylon Mullins from Indiana.

16:33PFT Commenter:Well, this is everyone's doing the thing right now. Dusty May is it's Ohio State fans and Indiana fans are like we could have had Dusty May. Yeah, because there is a tweet going around that Ohio State announced like they did final interviews with Dusty May and Jake Diebler. Yeah, that hurts. so Indiana fans are are saying oh we could add Braylon Mullins and Dusty May the whole fan fiction

16:55Big Cat:thing yeah hurts it does it does but they look Indiana fans love doing that to themselves oh

17:00PFT Commenter:yeah big time and also uh Demery I thought was unbelievable he I think he was he the one who had the big rebound because that was it the the rebound when it was um I think before the Braylon Mullins shot when he got an offensive rebound but he ended up having uh seven seven nine and seven which is in a final four game he was all over the place that was that was the possession i think it was like a minute left yukon misses shot it's a four-point game gets an offensive rebound hits a three and that's it that's lights out game over yeah all right the next game was supposed to be the best game we've ever seen and uh it might just be the best team we've ever seen because it was an absolute demolition by Michigan to the point where I questioned it on Twitter.

17:46PFT Commenter:Max, I'm sure you saw this, but I was like, given the hype of this game and the one versus two and they have five losses total between them and everything everyone was saying, is this the most thorough beat down in a Final Four game? And people were mentioning the Oklahoma-Villanova game from 2016. Yeah. But Oklahoma wasn't Arizona. Oklahoma was good. It was a two and a half point spread in that game. Didn't UNC get their ass kicked by Kansas? But I think UNC got back in that game a little bit. I just remember that was a dog walk. I guess there was a moment. It was that moment where it was like maybe a six or seven point game and Arizona had two free throws, missed both of them, got the offensive rebound, then missed the front end of another foul, and then it was basically from that point on, it was like, yeah, you guys have no chance.

18:39Big Cat:What was crazy is right off the bat, Lindeborg gets in foul trouble. Yeah. He got two fouls instantly in the game, and I thought that that's Arizona's chance. Arizona could win this game now. Boy, was I wrong because Michigan seemed like they played better, and then he came back into the game, then got injured. Yeah, their best player only played 14 minutes. Yeah, he played 14 minutes, and when he did play, he was affected by it. I thought he actually didn't play bad when he got back, but he looked slow.

19:06PFT Commenter:No, he had two threes. He came in and just was a spot-up jumper.

19:09Big Cat:He did look slow, and he looked affected by it, but Michigan did not need him at all because they had the giant Spaniard who just put his nuts on everybody's faces.

19:19PFT Commenter:Morrow was unbelievable. He definitely made himself a lot of money last night, and it was just everything Michigan wanted to do. It felt like the vibes from the two teams. Michigan just wanted to take it to them. The speed they were playing it with. Elliot Cadeau was incredible. He was, at one point, and this is a credit to Dusty May, who's having an all-time run right now, because I don't know if you guys saw it. Dusty May, before the game, scouting UConn, Illinois, courtside.

19:54PFT Commenter:Retrospect, I should have just put everything I had on Michigan, because that is such a memeable moment if you lose against Arizona. To be sitting out there not with your team, watching the first game and taking notes and keeping score. Dusty May knew that they had the game plan to beat Arizona. He knew it was going to be fine because you don't set yourself up for that situation unless you have ultimate confidence in your team.

20:19Big Cat:When I saw that, I thought that other coaches, they definitely have guys that do that for them. So I thought Dustin May wanted to be seen when he did that.

20:28PFT Commenter:Right, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. That's a meme. If you lose, you get dragged.

20:34Big Cat:He did not. Yes, he did that on purpose because he wanted the cameras to see him out there. And he was confident. And I think 99 % of the time, a coach will take one of their assistants and be like, this is your job to scout this game. I'm going to be behind the scenes.

20:47PFT Commenter:So Elliot Cadeau, to start the game, he was phenomenal. like one of the best five for 17 shooting performances I've ever seen. And I say five for 17 because at the beginning of the game, yeah, he ended up with 10 assists, five rebounds. He controlled the entire game. He brought like he had them all screwed up. He got Bradley into foul trouble, which that changed the game as well. But Elliot Codot at the beginning of the game to start, I was like, I turned to Dave. I was like, what's going on? Like he's just, is he like getting paid by the shot or something? Because he just kept on chucking it up.

21:20PFT Commenter:Turns out in reports after the game, that was all part of the game plan, that Elliot Cadeau was essentially missing shots on purpose, missing high on the backboard because Mara was able to clean it up. And that was part of their game plan against Arizona, knowing Arizona has all these big guys, has all this rim protection, that the second shot was there a lot. And you watch it back and you're like, oh, yeah, he did do that a few times where it was almost a direct pass to Mara off the top of the backboard. It's a genius game plan, and Dusty May is on an absolute heater right now. Okay, so at halftime, Charles Barkley kept talking about how

21:58Big Cat:Cadeau was taking these shots and missing them, and there were great misses on his part. And they're like, he needs to shoot the ball more. These are great misses that he's putting up. They were talking about the Kobe miss, a shot that's more easily rebounded by your own team. So when I heard Charles Barkley talking about that, you'll have to forgive me if I didn't think that Charles Barkley had his finger on the pulse of like a new wave of basketball analytics but god damn if he wasn't right he was right that he was able to pick up on that I guess a guy like Charles, that's what he does he rebounds, he can see it from that angle but yeah, he was breaking the defense down and drawing a lot of guys so then if he missed his shot then yes, it's almost like a pass

22:39PFT Commenter:yeah, and it was a genius plan and it felt like Michigan had a genius plan they also had Arizona Arizona like the size of Michigan bothered Arizona where Arizona was having to take threes they don't want to take and get into shots they don't because Arizona everyone knew what Arizona was they wanted to just be as close to the rim as possible bully you down low get to the free throw line and it just felt like they never got into a rhythm and they never got into a situation where they felt good and it is again it's Arizona is the is was the number one team in the country like they were there They're number one on Ken Palm, and Michigan just obliterated them.

23:20PFT Commenter:This is the second time this year. This is where Michigan is right now, and it's going to be interesting to see what happens Monday night because you have the best team in the country, Michigan, versus the best coach slash running dynasty in the country, UConn. It is, as much as people think, oh, what are we going to watch? Michigan's going to kill them. There is some really great storylines. We're going to have Johnny Fant to break it down as well. but Michigan has played the number one team twice this year and on neutral courts, and it was Gonzaga and it was Arizona. Gonzaga was the beginning of the season.

23:56PFT Commenter:They beat both of those teams' brains in, like obliterated them. So both times that they have been against those number one teams, they have just absolutely destroyed them. What about Duke? Was Duke ranked second? I think it was number one on Ken Palm. Duke was maybe one AP, but like three on Kempom. Yeah, because Duke beat them in neutral court, too. Yeah, Duke beat them.

24:16Big Cat:But if you look at, yeah, Michigan's losses this year, you have to say that they're two juggernauts. Duke, who's the best team in college basketball, still shocked that they lost. And then their other loss was to the Badgers. Well, in Purdue. They lost three. By three points. Well, regular season. Yeah. And then, yeah, they lost to Purdue, where they got beat by eight points. But you can almost throw out that Purdue loss, because at some point, I feel like in the Big Ten tournament, if you're Michigan, it's not the biggest thing in the world if you get bounced out. You just want to win at least one game in there.

24:47Big Cat:And Purdue's playing good basketball down that stretch. But they dominated Arizona, like absolutely dominated. And maybe it's because Arizona's young. They didn't have the experience. 100 % I think that plays into it. And Michigan was much, much, much more experienced than they were. Like Arizona's got great players. I love Colpete. I love Burry's. but it was it felt like it was mid against boys yeah no being there I mean this is what what has

25:14PFT Commenter:happened the last two years with Duke where it's like you have uh Duke teams that are really really good but they are very reliant on freshmen and the freshmen get in a moment yeah and can they can they raise there's the muscle memory there for these big time moments in the tournament and yeah I think that that definitely played a part where they just weren't comfortable and they got in that foul trouble where when Bradley goes out, a lot of it goes on to Burry's, and he's a freshman. He was chucking. Yeah, it was so impressive by Michigan. What we saw on Saturday night, that Michigan team is not losing to anyone.

25:52PFT Commenter:Yeah, how are they underdogs? What? They're not. Against UConn? They're favored by Cincinnati. Oh, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah. My bad, my bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're not losing to anyone. They're not losing to a single team. Now, UConn does have the coach and the experience to match it. Also, Terrace Reed revenge game because he started his career at Michigan. So that's the interesting part to me. They're going to have to muck it up because you mentioned the two Michigan losses. The Wisconsin one, we just hit a million threes. The Duke one, they slowed it down and they made Michigan uncomfortable.

26:30PFT Commenter:UConn's going to have to probably go into a combo both where slow it down and they're going to have to hit all their threes.

26:35Big Cat:Right. I guess the final score that you'd be looking at would be somewhere in the like 72 to 68 range. Yeah. If you were to think that UConn could do it.

26:42PFT Commenter:Michigan scored 90 plus in every single tournament game. I think they're going for the record for points in a tournament. And it's just, yeah, it's insane.

26:51Big Cat:It's insane what they're doing. Yes. You got to slow them down. You also have to hit your three. Everything has to go perfectly. You have to hope that they have a terrible night shooting as well. And then the actual Lindenburg, he says that he's going to play. He's like, yeah, no matter what i'm going to be out there you can't you can't keep me off the court for the championship game but his knees fucked up and his ankles fucked up and i would imagine he's going to get shot up with the best drugs oh yeah it's going to be vitamin t yeah and solo balls in a boot and solo balls in a boot so balls in a boot so again like the fact that yaxa lindenburg who's one of the top five players in the country the fact that when he was out they didn't miss a beat yeah just makes me think is Michigan yeah and you can pick your number they have so many I mean McKinney was

27:36PFT Commenter:so hot from three like uh Morris Johnson like they just have so many answers and when Mara's playing like that Mara's not an offensive it's not that he's bad at offense he's not that was the best offensive game he's played all year and it was just he was just made everything he looks

27:52Big Cat:smooth yeah he looked like he was in control he was just dominant yeah I don't know the only thing that I keep thinking about with UConn is they are it's the mystique they're the consistently luckiest team which means that it's not luck yeah no it's not luck I do not think it's luck I think but you know what I'm saying like yeah they find themselves in the right place at the right time all the time more so than any other college team and it's great it's really good

28:20PFT Commenter:coaching it's really good players I think it's it's it's partial mystique it's coaching it's players knowing their roles and it's the fact that they run an offense that you have to they may they run an offense that makes you think at all times like you can't you can't just take possessions off whether it's like you're switching everything you're not switching anything you're going under screens over screens like they're running action constantly to get guys open and get good looks that you can't guys get lost your communication falls apart that's what they can do and it's going to be a hard mountain for them to climb on Monday night but there's something also about Danny Hurley being an underdog that you know he's just licking his chops about you know he loves being an underdog

29:06Big Cat:and he was talking about the difference between his team and other teams and he's like well our guys know that this is a life or death struggle it's not a game our guys know that they're willing to die when they step on the court

29:18PFT Commenter:he called them the Monstars, the Michigan-Arizona he's like whoever we're going to play is the Monstars

29:22Big Cat:Yeah. And so, yes, I think Dan Hurley loves this. I think his team actually does believe that they might die if they lose. Yeah. Or like the universe will get destroyed like the Monstars. But that's the only reason. Everything says Michigan is a better team. Yeah. And I think that they are a better team.

29:38PFT Commenter:Yeah. I think they play the game. If there's a seven-game series, Michigan would probably win 4-2, 4-1. But that doesn't matter. Michigan's got nine starters.

29:45Big Cat:Did you know that? Yeah. They always say that. Nine starters.

29:49PFT Commenter:Well, you know, we were joking about it during the football. season, the college football season. You know when a team is really, really good when the complaints start piling up. For Indiana, it was they're too old. And oh yeah, if you can get a team that's 25, everyone's 25, of course you're going to win the national title.

30:07Big Cat:And also Mark Cuban is helping them cheat via artificial intelligence.

30:10PFT Commenter:This one is just everyone saying Michigan bought their whole team and it's not fair. It's like, alright, listen. Do I love that yes, every team changes overnight in college basketball? No, but that's just what it is everyone has the same yeah opportunities yeah so that's that's what that's what the game

30:27Big Cat:is but yeah we've got nine starters that's what they keep saying nine stars I have uh I have two

30:31PFT Commenter:other or a few other things I wanted to touch on real quick um one shout out Arizona for a great season probably probably the worst way to go out on a team that had lost twice this season and look like the best team in the country for big time stretches uh but the good news is Tommy Lloyd turned down unc and in his negotiations he made it so he doesn't have a boss so he's good that's pretty cool that's pretty awesome that's the lord does not answer to the ad anymore that's the dream

30:59Big Cat:so who does he answer to no one god to himself yeah how awesome is that the governor he probably

31:05PFT Commenter:what are you looking at lsu he he part of the reason why there was a lot of smoke tommy lloyd to unc was not only because unc but that tommy lloyd and the ad maybe didn't have the best relationship. So they renegotiated. Tommy Lloyd got a big pay increase and part of the new deal is he does not have to answer to the AD anymore.

31:26Big Cat:He will now instead report to Arizona President Suresh Garamela. How awesome.

31:31PFT Commenter:Okay, so he still reports to somebody. Yeah, but that doesn't... You think the President is going to be like, hey, Tommy, how are we doing with our... I'm saying what if they need... What if Arizona doesn't win the game? What if he runs out of Staples? What if Arizona doesn't have a President? out of post-it notes? I'm just saying he can

31:46Big Cat:get fired still.

31:48PFT Commenter:Yes. But he doesn't have to sit and talk to an AD and answer to him. He literally the AD comes by and he's just like, I don't have to talk to you, bro. I feel like most coaches should that should be the rule with most coaches.

31:58Big Cat:As part of the deal, he no longer reports to his athletic director, Desiree Reed Francois. That's not a report. I would not want to report to somebody named Desiree Reed Francois. No. I think this is a much stronger setup that they've got. So he's not going to UNC. Dusty May just said today he's also not going to UNC. Although

32:16PFT Commenter:Dusty May said that he's not. I think

32:18Big Cat:he informed the president of Michigan that he was no, I think, no longer accepting outside bids or outside job offers. I want to get the exact. Schefter retweeted it because he was trying to take a victory lap.

32:30PFT Commenter:I want to get the exact wording because I thought it was a little bit interesting. Max is looking up Desiree right now. Dusty May has informed Michigan officials that he's not pursuing any college basketball jobs. That's the part that made this a little interesting to me. Interesting. He will not be pursuing any college basketball jobs?

32:57Big Cat:Yeah. Just so you guys know, I'm not talking to anybody that works at a college.

33:03PFT Commenter:Are you looking for another job? No, not college basketball ones. Yeah. I will not be going anywhere, any other colleges. Michigan's my favorite college.

33:13Big Cat:If I'm coaching college basketball, it's at Michigan. Yep. There's nowhere else I'd rather be in college than at the University of Michigan. Now we'll see.

33:24PFT Commenter:And Dusty May, again, he's on an all-time heater because you just see that Paramount Plus. They did a behind-the-scenes of the Michigan season, and it's just unbelievable.

33:33Big Cat:It's some dusty porn.

33:34PFT Commenter:Yeah, it really is. It might actually just be a green screen because it was so perfectly fire me up type of video. We also had, did you guys, so they do the Hall of Fame and we had some new Hall of Famers. Joey Crawford in the Hall of Fame. Very cool. Yeah, very cool. But then we also had. That's a guy that loves rules. You guys see the pairing that they showed on TV that just always like we should call the Uber now pairing. No. It was Jim Boeheim and Mark Fuse next to each other. Get that Uber ready now. Give me the keys. But yeah, it was good. It was a good night of a lot of basketball. Not the best games.

34:19PFT Commenter:So I had one other thing. Good smoke, though.

34:21Big Cat:Smokes. The smokes. The chain smokers were... The halftime show was incredible. I do think that... Let's be honest. There were shitty games. Yeah, they were. The games were two shitty Final Four games. I thought the Yukon game was close.

34:33PFT Commenter:The Yukon game got close. I mean, Braylon Mullen's three with a minute left was like, if they don't get that rebound, it's a four-point game. That game, you had to keep watching. The Michigan game was over.

34:42Big Cat:It was just like the second half was just like, they'll just end the game. I'm just saying, I hope that we get a good national championship game because people will make this mean something if we don't. If it's a blowout that, like, if it's never close, Michigan wins by 20, get ready to hear takes for the next two weeks about how college basketball is broken.

35:05PFT Commenter:My last thought was, do you guys ever have a moment where you agree with the take, but you're just so sick of hearing it?

35:12Big Cat:Yes, yes. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yep. I get it. I get it, guys. Jay Phillips, you won.

35:18PFT Commenter:Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. But I get it, guys. Okay? Everyone online, I get it. We shouldn't play the Final Four in a football stadium. Oh, yeah. We're never going to stop playing the Final Four in a football stadium. Yeah. I think I saw that a thousand times. And guess what? I also think that here's a crazy take. I think the iPhone camera, something about it makes it seem like you're way farther away. I watched the court the entire time. I was in a suite way up top. It's not the, like, everyone makes jokes. It really isn't that, that bad. Yeah. It's not ideal. And I would rather it be in a college, in a, in a regular arena.

35:51PFT Commenter:But it's just like, every time we go to a final four, everyone's like, they got to fix this. They're never fixing it. You get 60 ,000 more people in the stadium. Yeah. They are never going to fix that. It's never going back. So we just got to stop complaining about it and just be like, and actually Indy, Titus was telling me this, Lucas Oil, they built so that the shooting eye is better. They built it with the shooting eye in their thought process. So it's not like a Houston or some of these other places that the shooting is terrible. It's also done a new thing. Right. That's what I'm saying. But every year it's just, it's the complaints are just, how are we doing this again?

36:29PFT Commenter:When was the last year that it was?

36:31Big Cat:In a college basketball or in a basketball arena.

36:34PFT Commenter:The 80s? It can't be. Maybe.

36:37Big Cat:They probably had it at some point in the 2000s.

36:41PFT Commenter:No, not in the 2000s. Never?

36:43Big Cat:You don't think they ever did?

36:44PFT Commenter:I don't think so. But in the 90s, I would say yes. I don't think so. National title. No, because I remember like Michigan North, Chris Weber game. That was in a dome, right? Yeah, I think the Duke championships were in domes. All right. That was 91. I'm looking it up right now. Here we go. I'm going to get to it. I have it right here. All right. 91 was Hoosier Dome. Metrodome, 92. Superdome. What's the Charlotte Coliseum? I guess that would be.

37:14Big Cat:96 is the last time, according to.

37:17PFT Commenter:Continental Airlines Arena. Yeah, that's where the Devils and the Nets played. So, 96. That's the last time. So, that's the last time.

37:26Big Cat:It's never going back.

37:27PFT Commenter:It's never, ever going back. Absolutely not. It also should be, and they'll never do this as well, so I know this is a stupid thing to say, but I'll just say it. The Final Four should always be in Indianapolis. It should just be forever home. Because of the walking? No. Because in Indiana, like, I know we joke, like, everyone jokes about it in 49 other states, but they make it such a big event. They care about college basketball. They care about basketball to a level that it's the only thing that's going on. You could feel it. maybe new orleans maybe new orleans and indianapolis are the only two but it just takes over the city in a way that when it's when they give it to other cities it just doesn't feel the same you don't feel the same pop like i remember as i like minneapolis but when it was in minneapolis it didn't feel like it was taking over the whole city uh i'm sure vegas in a couple years won't feel the same because it's vegas you know what i mean phoenix great weather but it's spread out it doesn't feel like oh this is all that's happening when the final four is in indianapolis that is the thing and it's like everyone's there for it and the streets are alive and it's just the perfect place

38:36Big Cat:for it i think vegas will probably feel pretty cool uh houston does not feel good when it's there no it doesn't feel like yeah i know what you're saying like it was fun yeah even dallas when it was new orleans it did feel like it kind of took over you know new orleans is the other one so i'll

38:49PFT Commenter:give you new orleans as well dallas i've been to a final four in dallas does not because dallas and And then the stadium are far apart from each other. It's just Indianapolis. They do a great job with it, and it just feels special when it's happening there.

39:02Big Cat:So that was my last take. I was going to go along with that. There's got to be a word that we can use when J. Billis is factually correct about something, but he's so smug when he's saying it that it makes me not want to agree with him, even though I know that he's right. Yeah. Whatever – it's not disingenuous, but it's – we get – Jay, you won. We've been on the side of paying the players for a very long time. But when he sat down, he had that conversation with Cal and Seth Greenberg and a few other guys, Reese. And it does feel like he's your – he walks around like he's a professor all the time.

39:43Big Cat:Yeah, he's smart. And the world is his lecture hall. Yeah. And is there to take notes on everything that Jay Billis has to say. But he's right. Jay, I need you to be 20 % less of a douchebag when you're going on these diatribes. And then I'll be able to watch you and be at peace with the fact that you're correct about something.

40:01PFT Commenter:But he's not right anymore because we already did it. But in this one conversation. It's like it's already happening. Now he just keeps hammering the thing that we knew was wrong that became a right.

40:11Big Cat:Well, so he was having a debate. and Seth Greenberg, probably not the best guy to have this debate with, talking about, like, well, what about players that make a lot of money and they're in college, then they go overseas, and then they don't make a lot of money, then they come back, and they don't have any skills to fall back on, and they're not in the NBA. And then Jay Billis was like, are you saying that you'd rather that guy not have gotten paid in college? And then Seth just doesn't know what to say. Yeah. They put him up as a tomato kid. Yeah, it was like, yeah, the Sean Salisbury, John Clayton.

40:39PFT Commenter:Yeah, I see what you're saying.

40:40Big Cat:And they were both kind of Claytons. but just be 20 % less smug, Jay. That's all I need. Yeah.

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41:58Big Cat:You're right. But I think that Don Staley actually gave Geno a run for his money after today's game. Yeah. Because her quote after they lost today, this is an all-time quote from South Carolina. And Don Staley is a great coach. She says, I can swallow the loss because we lost to a really good human being And a good team that represents women's basketball well She's still thinking about UConn That is maybe the biggest loser quote that I've ever heard And she's a great coach Yeah, because she didn't have to do anything No, she didn't She won

42:29PFT Commenter:She won versus Gino Gino looked like a fucking baby Yeah

42:33Big Cat:Like the biggest baby of all time And then she got her ass kicked that was that was maybe the ugliest championship game i've seen in any sport yeah absolute ass

42:43PFT Commenter:kicks and uh by the way the the the real thing that killed gino is the fact that everything he tried to say in the press conference was just immediately refuted to be false when he was like don staley didn't shake my hand at the beginning of the game yes she did uh sarah strong got her

42:58Big Cat:jersey ripped uh no she ripped it herself don staley was saying things to the refs that they

43:03PFT Commenter:would get mad at me if I said it's like do the video from last time what oh yeah well he's like he's like waiting he's like come here come here come here when he knows he's got a better team he yeah Gino all-time baby um all-time just like loser move and uh it was yeah I mean he he deserved to get dragged for that because he looked like a fucking clown the way he handled that it's it's also like i don't know this would never happen but just once i want to see a coach have because i don't think anything could change gino is gonna react that way no matter what because he was crashing out right but you have have someone on your team your pr team whatever your media team before you go to the podium just be like dude just so you know like you kind of look like a bitch you should just say like hey i'm a bitch and i i really don't lose well you know i mean Just go up there and be like, yeah, I'm a really bad loser, and I crashed out.

44:00PFT Commenter:Yeah, I mean. Just say that instead of trying to make up this. When you get up there and you say all this stuff about handshakes and jersey rips, does he think that people are going to say, oh, yeah, actually, you know what? South Carolina was so wrong.

44:13Big Cat:No, it's great basketball coaches for the most part. I'd say more often than football coaches for some reason have that little bit of crybaby psychopath. They're psychopaths. They're all psychopaths. And if things don't go well, instead of accountability, it must be everybody else's fault. Correct. Because they have Coach K. Yeah, like Coach K. It's somebody else's fault. I need to redirect my anger because it can't be mine.

44:38PFT Commenter:It is a very Coach K move that he pulled last night because it's like the Dylan Brooks when he tries to tell us one thing and then we find out it's the exact opposite. That's what Gino was doing. I think that's why I reacted instantly. I was like, this is the fucking biggest bitch move. It reminded me of Coach K.

44:54Big Cat:Yeah, well-adjusted people don't coach college basketball. They just don't. Hank, Hank, what? Just smiling?

45:02PFT Commenter:Yeah, Coach K.

45:03Big Cat:Yeah. What do you think about Dawn Staley, though? After she loses the game afterwards, going back.

45:09PFT Commenter:I think you're reading too far into it. I don't think she was talking about him at all.

45:13Big Cat:Oh, you don't? No. Oh, really?

45:14PFT Commenter:Yeah.

45:14Big Cat:She was just saying in general, it's good to lose to a good human being.

45:18PFT Commenter:Wouldn't you rather lose to a good human being than a bad one?

45:20Big Cat:Yeah.

45:21PFT Commenter:I'd rather not lose. Well, yeah, but if you have to lose.

45:23Big Cat:So if you lose, yeah, your first thing that you should say is, like, you know, at least the guy that won. That guy is all class.

45:30PFT Commenter:It would rock, though. Don't you know what I'm saying? If Gino had just gotten to the podium, he's like, hey, guys, just, you know, I'm a really bad loser and I'm a baby about it. And that's why that. Yeah, but that ruins the whole image. But he ended up saying that, like, after with his he released a statement on Saturday. He was like, I was really unclassy of me. Just say it in the moment. Just be like, yeah, guys, I'm a baby.

45:52Big Cat:I wonder if he has a bet with Hurley, like which team's going to go further. Oh. That might be why he was so upset. Yeah, that could have been. He might have lost a shitload of money.

46:00PFT Commenter:But UCLA was awesome. Yeah. Gino and Don Staley made the whole Final Four about them, and then UCLA just silently just throttled everyone. Friday night, they throttled the Longhorns.

46:13Big Cat:It's kind of crazy that they've never won a national championship in women's college basketball for a team that's been as good as UCLA. And how many points?

46:20PFT Commenter:I mean, what did they give up? How many points did they give up in the final four? I think it was like 95 points or something. Their defense was just insane. They gave up. Yeah. They gave up 95 points in the entire final four. That's nuts. Yeah. They were awesome. Okay. Let's do some national sports podcast. Okay. National sports podcast topics. I had a couple. Okay. Does anyone have anything on the top of their mind? I have my big one is Giannis again. Giannis again.

46:50Big Cat:All right. Are we going to do it with Giannis again?

46:52PFT Commenter:All right.

46:53Big Cat:It seems like it's the same story for the last two years.

46:56PFT Commenter:Here's where I guess the only difference would be is that for the last five years, three to five years, it has been a lot of Shams reporting. Yeah. And everyone's saying, oh, something's imminent. And I get it. If you're a Bucs fan, it's probably been the most annoying thing to have to deal with. Totally get it. Shams has just been chasing that. And I do think Giannis is tight with Shams. I think there's a little bit of like, you know, they went and he wanted Dame and they got Dame. You know what I mean? Like trying to put guys around him, all this stuff. The difference this time is Giannis just outright said it in that he says he's healthy enough to play.

47:33PFT Commenter:The Bucs don't want to play him. That's where they're disagreeing. And he said, like, I'm available to play and it's a slap in my face. He said, this is exact quote. You know who you were dealing with. so for somebody to come and tell me to not play or not to compete it's like a slap in my face so I don't know where the relationship goes from here. That's his quote. So that's where it's a little different. He's basically saying I don't know what's going to happen with me and the organization. They just need to break up. Well also

48:06Big Cat:Doc Rivers and let's put some Hall of Famer

48:09PFT Commenter:he was there on Saturday night.

48:12Big Cat:Doc Rivers said it's a grown man's game it should be handled that way by everybody I don't like it when he said she said stuff it's not good the fact I have to sit up here and keep addressing it it bothers me and we need to do something about it I agree it seems like both sides want to move along can we just do it it seems like that's how you do

48:32PFT Commenter:something about it he's the best player you know the Bucs franchise he's made the best obviously you could say you know Kareem but he has made the Bucs relevant, awesome championship. It's been incredible for the organization. I think it's time. You got to do it. He clearly... It's the nice guy thing that he doesn't want to ruin his reputation. It's gone on so long that he kind of is. You know what I mean? He didn't ever want to ask for a trade. He wanted to be loyal to Milwaukee. I thought that was very admirable. There's just so much smoke. And then him outright saying it here, just do it. Get draft picks and move on.

49:14Big Cat:They tried. It didn't work out with Dame. They took a swing and it didn't work. And then they fired a couple coaches that may or may not have, probably a mistake, you would say, to fire at least one of those two. It's just not going to work out. I think it's past the point of repairing anything. I don't think either side wants it to be repaired. And there's a trend around the NBA of big men that are healthy enough to play and want to play. and then their team's just saying you're not allowed to play. Yeah. And then that ruins everything. Max, do you have any comment about that? Is that true? No.

49:50Big Cat:No comment. No comment or not true?

49:53PFT Commenter:No comment. No comment. No comment.

49:55Big Cat:But, yeah, I think it's time to separate. Good no comment. We've done this enough.

49:59PFT Commenter:He's also 31 years old. I'm not saying that he doesn't have good years left because he probably does. But at some point, you've just got to just trade him and try to move on if you're a Bucs fan, right? If you're the Bucs organization. I know that also Jimmy Haslam has gotten involved in the Bucs, and that sucks because he ruins literally everything. Quite literally just ruins it all. But, yeah, this was the first time I was like, oh, he's saying it. Like he doesn't know where the relationship goes.

50:24Big Cat:But he's basically – he's been – the last two years especially, when Shams put out that report about, like, the Bucs were interested in other teams for, like, talking to other teams about Giannis. Yeah. New York being one of those teams. It's like, okay, at this point, it's not going to end well for the Bucs and for Giannis together. Just move on. I'm sick of hearing this report.

50:46PFT Commenter:I am too. I do think that part of it is he wants to play with both his brothers this year because I think they're both. I don't know if they're both. Are they both on the roster? They had an oop to each other. Yeah. A non-Yannis. Yeah. Antetokounmpo. So I think he wasn't. Antetokounmpo alley-oop tonight.

51:05Big Cat:Probably, I'd say, a box-score-agami. Yeah.

51:09PFT Commenter:And listen, I think we've all been consistent. I think that Giannis wanting to do something like this, play with his two brothers on the same court, nepotism. We're totally cool with it. We would never criticize something like that.

51:23Big Cat:No, it's great. Did you see LeBron getting mad at Brania, the bad pass tonight? No.

51:28PFT Commenter:The Lakers have no guys left.

51:30Big Cat:Luke Kennard had a triple-double. I feel like Fat Perez might be next to get the call.

51:34PFT Commenter:Yeah. The Mavs doctors hot seat. Why? Austin Reeves had to get an MRI, and they told him where they needed to scan for the MRI. They just scanned the wrong area. They scanned the wrong leg? The wrong area.

51:49Big Cat:The wrong area entirely?

51:51PFT Commenter:Yeah. J.J. Reddick was like, I don't want to snitch here, but we told them we needed to get an MRI on this part, and they just gave us the wrong MRI. Oh, damn.

52:01Big Cat:That's a HIPAA violation by J.J.

52:02PFT Commenter:Can I say about the NBA, I am equal parts excited for the playoffs and think that the NBA has never been worse in terms of regular season. It's an absolute joke. I know that we had Wemby versus Jokic on Saturday, and it was awesome. Like, Friday, every single team was playing, like, a tanking team was playing a playoff team, and none of the games were close. I think I saw something that was, like, on Friday. It was, like, tonight, the average margin of victory across the league. Yeah. Yeah, as Tim Reynolds said, there have been two days in NBA history spanning 80 years where at least nine games were played with an average margin of victory being at least 24 points.

52:41PFT Commenter:Only two such days in NBA history. One was Friday, and the other was the Sunday before that. Jesus. It's just, but then you watch a game like Jokic and Wemby on Saturday, an overtime game. Like, I can't wait for this. That's why the playoffs are going to be great. The regular season NBA is like the worst product. It just sucks.

53:02Big Cat:And everyone keeps throwing out their idea to address tanking. Tanking is not getting addressed. They're going to figure out a new, more fun way to tank.

53:09PFT Commenter:Do you also see like the, if you take a look at the standings, it's so funny. The cliff that falls off between the play-in and the 10th seed and the 11th seed. In the East, it's a 10-game difference. In the West, it's a 12-game difference. So it's essentially just the bottom 10 teams in the league are just all out saying we just do not want to win any game.

53:35Big Cat:Actively trying very, very hard.

53:36PFT Commenter:To put out the worst product possible.

53:38Big Cat:Very hard to lose. Yeah. Are the Wizards in last place right now? Worst record?

53:42PFT Commenter:Worst record, yeah.

53:43Big Cat:Let's go. All right.

53:44PFT Commenter:Do a quick sim. Yeah, take a time. I actually think the Bulls, with their loss today and the Bucs win, they have a 20 % chance to get a top four pick, which is better than it's been a long time. Go ahead. Senate. Senate lottery.

53:59Big Cat:Golden State.

54:02PFT Commenter:Okay. Golden State. Wow. That would be crazy. That would be nuts. That would be nuts. Do five. Five. Okay. Washington. Oh, there we go. I take that. I sign up for that. Yep. Second. Deal. Wizards and Bulls. All right. Wizards won. Wizards again. I love this. Who are you going to take?

54:20Big Cat:I don't know. Boozer. No. If we're picking first overall. no no Darren Peterson I think Darren Peterson uh Bansa yeah Boozer not Boozer what about Boozer what are the other which Boozer Caden yes okay yeah he's actually better crazy if the Wizards

54:40PFT Commenter:said hey we actually we were planning on getting Cam Boozer in five years in free it's a moot

54:46Big Cat:conversation because we're not the Wizards are not being given the first overall pick I learned that lesson last year. And also, shout out Cooper Flagg. How many points did he have tonight? Like 40? He's just keeps he's broken the record

54:59PFT Commenter:for a teenager.

54:59Big Cat:So is he now, is he the favorite to get rookie of the year or is it Knipple? They've been bouncing back and forth. That team must have been awesome. Yeah, those guys played together last year? Yeah, they were really good.

55:11PFT Commenter:Holy shit.

55:12Big Cat:By far and away the two favorites for rookie of the year.

55:15PFT Commenter:Con Knipple and Cooper Flagg are both? Same team. Oh my God. Yeah, they're one too. and then who's third edgecomb john shire oh no edgecomb oh wow sorry i can't read yeah max what

55:28Big Cat:was that about because like the other day imbeed was reported as being out against that game the game against the wizards and then he actually tweeted or he went to x.com the everything app and posted like this is news to me i'm playing tonight and then the team i guess in between that and uh tip off had a word with him they said dude you're not playing so what's going on he was sick But he thought that he was playing. He wanted to sweat it out. Yeah. Big Cat did that to me Friday of the March Madness. Sometimes you're sick and you try and show up to work, and the work says you actually shouldn't be around the team.

56:01Big Cat:Fair point. It just seems like he might be a little disgruntled. Yeah, he wanted to play, but he was sick. He had to go home.

56:09PFT Commenter:Max wanted to be in the cave with the boys. And here I was playing the Wizards. Yeah.

56:14Big Cat:So you don't think he's disgruntled at all?

56:18PFT Commenter:He wanted to play.

56:20Big Cat:Jokic did get another triple-double, by the way.

56:23PFT Commenter:Yeah. Same with Luke Kennard. I mentioned that, but Luke Kennard did get a triple-double. By the way, breaking moves. Breaking moves from Choms. Luka Doncic will seek specialized medical treatment in Europe on his grade two left hamstring. Huh. That's interesting. Huh.

56:46Big Cat:What kind of specialized medical treatment are we talking about here, Luca?

56:49PFT Commenter:Remember when LeBron went down to Miami for those two weeks? He was on the Cavs. He could just go to Miami for two weeks.

56:56Big Cat:Remember when Christian McCaffrey went over to Europe? Specialized medical treatment. Europe.

57:02PFT Commenter:What's happening? Whatever Paul George is doing right now. What's happening in Europe? People are asking.

57:10Big Cat:What's that, Zach? They're just taking stem cells, right? Yeah, it might be stem cells. Yeah, it could be. That's what Kobe did, right? We're just accusing them of way worse. I don't think that's what they did, but maybe that's what they did.

57:20PFT Commenter:We're accusing them of way worse, but not having the balls to actually accuse them. We're pussies about it. They're also doing way worse. Yeah, we're being pussies about it. They're like, hey, you're up. Oh, that makes you think. Oh, so no matter how this plays out, we can be like, well, he cheated or didn't. You know, he sucks. That's a good place. We're huge cowards.

57:37Big Cat:Yeah. What is the stem cell treatment that they do? How does that work? They take their cells. Yeah.

57:47PFT Commenter:And someone else want to pick it up? Let's see. You know what? Neemes is explaining to us back here. They stem. They take some good cells and they stem your bad cells together. Yeah. And then the good cells absorb your bad cells. Yeah, they eat them. And replace them.

58:02Big Cat:I thought it was like the cells were really good, but stem and seed cells, it's like bad versions of the cells. It makes you sick and cough.

58:11PFT Commenter:I thought they took your blood out, and then they put it in a washing machine.

58:15Big Cat:Yeah.

58:16PFT Commenter:And then it got your blood all dizzy, and then they put it back in your body, and your blood's like, whoa, where are we now? Yeah, because they get - And then they fight harder because they're like, we're not in our regular home. And then after a while, they realize, oh, yeah, we actually are at home.

58:28Big Cat:They get the plasma out of the cell.

58:30PFT Commenter:Yeah. Did you see that picture of Joe Rogan? Yeah, it looks awesome. He had just like two, three huge bags of orange juice. He's like, they took this out of my blood. Yeah. Yeah, he looks sick. it's probably a pretty healthy thing yeah memes go ahead and explain stem cells to us uh it makes

58:44Big Cat:two it makes you 200 stronger what yeah i want that based on something i heard on a podcast one time oh okay all right memes good extra analysis memes do they have like do they have like women give birth and then like the placenta has the stem cells in it so there are they just using like placentas do they have like a placenta bank that they go into and they're like oh luke is here let's put this placenta into his hamstring i believe it's an umbilical cord ah so there's same thing so there's like babies that are being born in europe right now and you have the opportunity to donate your umbilical cord to the nba yeah essentially that rocks that's also why it's illegal here what babies they can't their body their choice they should be allowed to do that if they want babies can't do sim cell no babies can't donate their umbilical cords to

59:35PFT Commenter:sim cell babies can't play in the nba we're stopping the right you know they can't earn a

59:39Big Cat:living babies yeah they can't willingly offer their umbilical i need jay billis on the case i'm now sounds like people are denying babies a right to make money off their own bodies what

59:51PFT Commenter:about the thing that i said about the making your blood dizzy i think that's correct okay cool cool cool. This is a good talk. All right. Do we have any other topics before we do Who's Back? Should we get to Who's Back? Who's Back of the Week is brought to you by our friends at Twisted Tea. Twisted Tea is a refreshing hard ice tea made with real brewed tea and 5 % alcohol. Twisted Tea is the perfect drink to keep the good times going all day and all season long, whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar, or day drinking with friends. Twisted Tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time a great time grab a refreshing twisted tea today love the half and half the peach the original twisted tea go get it today twisted tea hank your who's back of the week who's back the week is the buffalo sabers yeah happy that's for the great the great state of new york first time in the history of this podcast yeah first time this history is podcast 14 years playoff drought Whoa, that's long.

1:00:53PFT Commenter:Longest in pro sports. It's over. Officially, they clinched the playoffs. Good for them. Good for New York. You see the guy I retweeted the other night? You said that he was going to eat Tate Thompson's height in chicken parm. That's pretty good. He said that before the season. I need to see that guy eat the height in chicken parm. How tall is Tate Thompson? He's pretty tall. It's a lot of chicken parm. It's a shitload of chicken parm.

1:01:15Big Cat:Their nightmare's over, though. I'm very happy for Sabres fans.

1:01:18PFT Commenter:He's 6 '6 in chicken parm. Zach, could you eat that much chicken parm? I think we could all take that down for sure. Yeah, actually, that's not that bad. As a team, that's not that much. Each chicken parm is what? What are you talking about?

1:01:32Big Cat:It depends if you're doing it long ways. No, I thought it was sub. Oh, sub. Max, you were thinking about if you did a lasagna of chicken parm. Oh, my God, Max, chill out. That's a lot of chicken parm.

1:01:46PFT Commenter:How long would it take you to? A week. Easy. Yeah. Yeah. Less. I think it's only like seven. I mean, a foot-long sub of chicken parm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought you were saying like in one sitting or like one day, one challenge. Yeah, that would be a lot.

1:02:01Big Cat:So who has the longest streak now that the Sabres don't?

1:02:04PFT Commenter:I don't think anyone's even close to the Sabres. Is that on people's track? I got to look.

1:02:11Big Cat:Yeah. Hank, it's your who's back. Since it's your who's back, you can look up the result. Hank's never prepared for this fucking show. It's the New York Jets. What? That's crazy. Same state.

1:02:20PFT Commenter:Damn. I thought New York's National Nightmare was over. Memes, when was this on your radar? It's been on my radar. For how long? Months? A while. No, Sabres is a good hockey team. Yeah, they are. And so it was like, oh, God, this is going to happen.

1:02:40Big Cat:Yeah, but that was a while ago. I'm glad it happened on Saturday, though.

1:02:43PFT Commenter:Yeah. Final four, yeah. Who's close to you guys?

1:02:47Big Cat:The Angels.

1:02:48PFT Commenter:And how long have they been? 11 seasons? And you are what? 15.

1:02:52Big Cat:Can I tell you something, though? It's way more embarrassing that the Angels haven't made the playoffs in 11 years. It's Shohei and Mike Trout. And Rendon. Yeah. Anywhere in the nation.

1:03:02PFT Commenter:Rendon is not in that same conversation. That was insane that you threw Rendon. That's nuts.

1:03:07Big Cat:That one postseason he was in that conversation.

1:03:09PFT Commenter:That was literally the dragon meme.

1:03:10Big Cat:Yeah. With Rendon.

1:03:12PFT Commenter:All fucked up. Shohei, Trout, and Rendon. Damn sorry, memes. That was mean of you. Yeah, how are the Red Sox doing? It could have been meaner. It was mean. Make it meaner. Mike, who's back in the week is the great state of New York. Oh, why? Their nightmare's over.

1:03:32Big Cat:You were celebrating this on X.com. Yeah, but the way Hank says it.

1:03:38PFT Commenter:Yeah, it really makes you. Yeah, good point. It's different. Yeah, Memes is right. He is right. Wait, Hank could. A regular person could say something, then Hank says it, and it just feels different. It's 100%. It's different. Yeah, it's different. Hank hits different. Hank gets you aggro. It's like angel dust. You want to run through a wall and punch a cop in the face. I should coach. Yeah. You want to be on Johnny Fantas' staff? We're not there yet. No.

1:04:03Big Cat:I would tank his staff.

1:04:05PFT Commenter:Oh, why do you hate all of our guests?

1:04:07Big Cat:If he was at North Carolina? Oh, yeah.

1:04:09PFT Commenter:That's fair. That's fair. I forgot about that.

1:04:11Big Cat:You being a giant Duke fan.

1:04:12PFT Commenter:But why do you hate all of our guests?

1:04:14Big Cat:I love our guests.

1:04:15PFT Commenter:That's not true.

1:04:15Big Cat:You left Julian Edelman off to Mount Rushmore.

1:04:20PFT Commenter:I left a lot of people off in the hospital so did you

1:04:24Big Cat:including Jules so did you but you know you're the Jules guy

1:04:28PFT Commenter:run the Jules that's what you always say what uh by the way speaking of playoffs excited hockey playoffs are starting in like a week yeah I think the last game is did the Cavs come back

1:04:41Big Cat:no they lost 8-1 oh no Hank hits different when Hank we were out there watching the game and the Rangers scored and Hank just goes, Goal! And then he looked over at me and goes, Sorry, PFT.

1:04:52PFT Commenter:No, he didn't say it like that. That would have been fine. He said, Oh, sorry, PFT. He was chipper about it. Yeah, he was chipper about it.

1:04:58Big Cat:And in his mind, I know that Hank was not trying to be a dick in his mind, but it 100 % came across that way.

1:05:05PFT Commenter:You knew the score? Yeah, it was 8-1. Damn, that's really mean. That's really mean.

1:05:08Big Cat:You know what this is? This is RIP to Ovi. This is going to be Alex Ovechkin's last week playing professional hockey in the NHL, I think. He's got four more games left. We had to beat the Rangers. We lost the Rangers. It's fine. Historically, we've dismantled the Rangers in these types of games to the point where they have to break their entire franchise and issue apology letters and fire everybody in their front office. So sometimes you're the bear and sometimes the bear gets you.

1:05:35PFT Commenter:By the way, speaking of –

1:05:38Big Cat:Thanks, Hank. I know that you meant that. Yeah, you really mean it.

1:05:41PFT Commenter:Speaking of playoff hockey, though, You're still fighting memes. You can get in.

1:05:47Big Cat:No, he can. Yeah, he can.

1:05:49PFT Commenter:What was that? They're in right now.

1:05:52Big Cat:No, they're not in right now. They're on the outside looking in. They're one point out. Here's the thing about the Islanders. They lost their last four, and they also just fired their coach. Yeah. Flyers. Fired up. You're so flyered up. I'm so fired up. You're so flyered up. I'm not allowed to tweet about the Flyers. They won like eight games in a row, and then I tweeted, like, I think I'm about to hop in on the Flyers, and then they lost two straight, and then I said I'm retired from the Flyers and then they won two straight.

1:06:16PFT Commenter:Problem is you guys are fighting for the same spot. Could be. Could be potentially.

1:06:20Big Cat:Yeah, Flyers beat them Islanders on Friday. Flyered up. Yeah, Max found out about that. Porter Martone. That's my guy. What was that, memes? Max found out about that five minutes before the show. That is also correct. I watched the third period in overtime today of the Flyers. You got flyered up. They beat the Bruins. Even when they're not playing, you get flyered up because you get to find out about wins that they had two days ago. And saying getting flyered up rocks.

1:06:42PFT Commenter:Yeah. Okay, so that's our hockey talk. I'm flired up.

1:06:45Big Cat:That's a good season preview. But I won't be tweeting about them.

1:06:48PFT Commenter:We also all need to – I just want to put out a PSA to all AWLs. We really need to get all of our focus on the 76ers falling back into the play. Yes. Because right now they're at the 6.

1:07:00Big Cat:I know. I know. We need that. We need it. A lot of 76ers content.

1:07:04PFT Commenter:Celtics 76ers, then 76ers or Celtics versus Knicks second round. It would be incredible. Watching the Flyers just pass me has been so fun. Shut up about the Flyers. No, because I'm wrapping it back around. Because it's like, what? Yeah, you're in Gretzky's office? Yeah, wrap around.

1:07:23Big Cat:Max's wrap around is a great segment. Because I don't really care, and it's fun to root for something and not absolutely destroy me when it loses. And the Sixers losing to the Celtics I know is going to happen, and it's going to suck because I'm going to have this piece of shit in my face. Zach? No. Yeah, Zach. Yeah, no, it's going to suck. It's going to be six or something. I can't wait. Okay. Good who's back, BFT. I don't remember what it was. Are they going to let Joel Embiid play? You're so funny. You think in the playoffs? Your one-liners that you do are so funny. There's a question. We're a sports podcast.

1:08:06Big Cat:Is this chatting to be so funny right now? We're asking questions, Max. That's a joke just for Big Cat and I.

1:08:12PFT Commenter:That makes no sense. It makes you laugh every time. Wait, wait. What was your who's back?

1:08:19Big Cat:That was Hanks. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

1:08:20PFT Commenter:You got your who's back. Hockey.

1:08:22Big Cat:Yeah. My who's back of the week is turtles. Oh. Milwaukee Brewers have a rally turtle. Have you seen this turtle? No. Bobby Jr.

1:08:29PFT Commenter:This bothers me, though.

1:08:31Big Cat:They keep in their pockets. Would you ever keep a turtle as a good luck charm?

1:08:34PFT Commenter:No, I'm saying it bothers me because I'm a big believer in these type of things working. So Bobby, they do work. Bobby Jr. is the best.

1:08:42Big Cat:They have him on a leash. They take him for walks.

1:08:45PFT Commenter:Dude, what if that was Mr. Pear?

1:08:46Big Cat:Yeah, it could be Mr. Pear. What is it? Mr. Pear memes? Could be Mr. Pear. Where'd he go? Missouri. Hank called Mr. Pear junk.

1:08:58PFT Commenter:This is turning into the defamation of our turtle junk. junk?

1:09:04Big Cat:No. Prove it. I don't even know what you're talking about. Yeah, that's what I say when I'm innocent. Prove it. That doesn't seem like a quote that you'd make up. Like a very specific accusation. Yeah, no, this bothers me because this memes bothers me. When did I say alcohol junk? They were giving an office tour. They were like, yeah, we used to have some junk here. I like this turtle, though. Bobby Jr.

1:09:28PFT Commenter:It's a bad sign because I think these things work.

1:09:31Big Cat:Yeah, they do.

1:09:31PFT Commenter:always work we did have junk in that area and the turtle and i said there was junk over there and you took it as me talking about the turtle but i was not talking about the turtle well now it turns

1:09:43Big Cat:out it was a good thing that we let mr perry go because he's up in milwaukee yeah he's bringing joy to several dozen brewers fans okay i'm worried about that yeah all right by who's back of the

1:09:53PFT Commenter:week is uh not the cubs because they are in the last place in el central but more importantly Craig Council can't dip. Did you guys see this clip? I did not. Oh, it's a tough one. It's relatable. It's a tough one. It really is. It's just... I said the only way you can get out of this is they had a sale for Wintergreen Grizzly. Long cut. Look at him. Go back. This is when it's hard to be like, I'm not a nerd. I'm not a nerd. He's coughing up a lung. At the top of the dugout. Not a great start.

1:10:30Big Cat:Did they make him do that? I don't know. Is that like, hey, do they win like the night before? If you guys get a hit in the first thing, I'll dip.

1:10:36PFT Commenter:Oh, man. Yeah. That's something like I know that this is probably ridiculous. I actually think you have to address that in the press conference. Like, you have to talk about that. You have to be like, I saw the clip circulating. Yeah, bro, I get it. But I'm not normally like that. Like, just went down the wrong pipe. Yeah. I'm a little hungover.

1:10:55Big Cat:You got to dip in your press conference.

1:10:57PFT Commenter:Yeah, I'm a little hungover. I don't know what happened. Just so you know, I'm a fucking dude who can chill.

1:11:02Big Cat:Yeah. Don't worry about me. Bring out a whole wad of just Copenhagen long cut for your next interview. I'm not going to get dizzy when I'm trying to do the lineup card. Don't even bring out the puke button. Swear to God. I know that you've got like a little wastebasket in the dugout that you can puke into. Just say, fuck that. I'm going raw dog. Watch me do the horseshoe.

1:11:28PFT Commenter:If you give me a cigarette right now, I will inhale. Yeah. I swear to God, I can fucking hang with you guys. He's got to do something. It's a bad look. It's a bad, bad look. All right, Zach.

1:11:40Big Cat:My who's back of the week this week is going to be Angels right fielder Joe Adele. Yes. Yeah. Just going three for three on absolute robberies. Although, I don't understand.

1:11:50PFT Commenter:Don't do this. Don't do this. Okay. I hate people that are having this take. I kind of understand. I don't think you can land. Oh, in the stands? I think you have to land in the... For a home run. It's awesome. I agree. I agree, but it also would be kind of sick if they're like, home run, you landed in the fucking stands.

1:12:12Big Cat:There is a possibility that he caught the ball and then he fell down on the ground and the ball trickled out and then picked it up, put it back in his glove. But that was awesome.

1:12:20PFT Commenter:I mean, they were all so sick. To have three in one game was insane. I just when did he catch the last one was he still were his feet still they were in the air okay yeah that was fine it was awesome yeah you know what fuck it you're right Max now that I'm watching it again I saw the picture that's when I thought about it when I saw the picture from behind I was like how is this the picture also rocks I know but I was like this makes no sense but now that I'm watching it again I retract my take that was awesome you actually should be encouraged to jump into the stands

1:12:58Big Cat:and the fact that the Angels did this and they they were winning the game 1-0

1:13:03PFT Commenter:like this looks like a guy who just is just dressed like a major baseball fan

1:13:08Big Cat:without these three plays that he made they're getting their ass kicked incredible and I think the league leader last year had four four robbers he had three in a game

1:13:20PFT Commenter:yeah he's I mean Adele just won the gold glove. Just get ready. Get excited. You're going to be announced gold glove winner right after Super Bowl Sunday.

1:13:32Big Cat:Maybe during the Super Bowl Sunday.

1:13:34PFT Commenter:During the Super Bowl. Halftime. It was sick. It was sick. Good job, Zach. What else you got? Empty the clip.

1:13:39Big Cat:I got one more quick pivot. You guys been beasting it all recently?

1:13:44PFT Commenter:No, because beast games are not, Mr. Beast.

1:13:47Big Cat:But 50 streamers, 1v1 through 50 for a million dollars to donate to the community. Your Rage won A million dollars to give away To his Twitch column What? So it was 50 streamers compete for one million dollars To donate to their respective communities And Your Rage came in Compete in victorious

1:14:04PFT Commenter:What are you saying? What's that last part?

1:14:05Big Cat:Compete in what? What's the last part?

1:14:08PFT Commenter:What's the last part you're saying?

1:14:09Big Cat:Your Rage It's the gentleman who won

1:14:11PFT Commenter:Okay I thought you were saying I thought you It's like never ask a lady I'm 41 I don't know Your Rage

1:14:16Big Cat:I can see the mix up there My bad I should preface with Your Rage is his name Your Rage. Yes. Double R? Your Rage? All one word, Y-O-U-R-R-A-G-E.

1:14:26PFT Commenter:Okay. Your Rage. Got it. Your Rage. What's his age? Wait, so you just spoiled it for us? Faze your Rage. It was more so celebrating the fact that he won. But you spoiled it. I can't Beast. Didn't Beast also just lay off a bunch of people? Did he?

1:14:43Big Cat:You were telling me this?

1:14:45PFT Commenter:They did have a round of layoffs. How many people? Like for a video, that'd be electric.

1:14:53PFT Commenter:That would be awesome.

1:14:56Big Cat:Remember when Spotify did that?

1:14:58PFT Commenter:I'm going to make you compete for severance. You get two weeks of healthcare. Or flip a coin and you get four.

1:15:11PFT Commenter:Well, I wanted to watch this. Now I can't.

1:15:14Big Cat:I like to be. What did they compete in? You ever play like... it's almost like Mario Party games. They put them in this big glass sphere. If you walk out of the sphere or out of the circle, you do get eliminated and then you do the party games in the circle, different competitions, you know? There were some slingshot elements. There were some penalty kicks they were shooting. It was co-hosted by, also no other than Global Superstar, I shall speak.

1:15:38PFT Commenter:Oh, there we go. There we go. And there in the eyes, the rub. Wait, so Zach,

1:15:43Big Cat:who do you think would be more famous? The guy that's putting on the event or the guy that they - Is a guest. That they hired to be a guest in the event. Co-host. My thought process was like, they're in this board meeting thinking, well, Speed is a streamer, but he transcends streaming, so he clearly can't compete in this competition. So let's bring him in.

1:16:01PFT Commenter:Okay.

1:16:02Big Cat:That's just how some are thinking.

1:16:04PFT Commenter:Do you have Google alerts on for iShowSpeed?

1:16:06Big Cat:No, no. This is just a fun competition. A lot of notable names in there. They got like the 50 biggest streamers in the world to come together and compete.

1:16:13PFT Commenter:Yeah. Okay. Good job, Zach. All right, let's get ready for Johnny Fanta. Great interview with him. Getting you ready for the national championship game. And also talking maybe being the head coach of the North Carolina Tar Heels.

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1:18:23PFT Commenter:john fanta okay for the last time of the tournament because we are here at the national championship It is our very, very, very, very, very good friend and very special guest, Johnny Fanta from NBC Sports. You can see him doing NBA, college basketball, everything. He's also going to have spaces on his Twitter pre - and post-game on Monday night, so tune in. Johnny, we got two teams left. Before you sell us on the national championship, what was your vibe? What was your takeaway from Saturday night in the Final Four? that Michigan is absolutely insane and that performance against Arizona is not supposed to happen it it defied the basketball gods it was just it defied the the laws of the sport Arizona comes into the game number one in all the analytics throw them out uh Di Mara and Moraes Johnson just said we are going to punk you tonight it didn't matter who they were playing and what they did to the Wildcats coupled with 12 threes.

1:19:35It was incredible shot making from the Wolverines. And if they make shots like that, we're talking about a team that enters into a very special echelon in the sport. I'll tell you my other takeaway. It's that experience and composure and all those things, those buzzwords, they matter in this thing. And because of that, the one game nature is what makes Monday intriguing. Because on Saturday night, I saw an Illinois team that the final four stage was new for them. And I saw a UConn team that knew what to do to get it done. And you know what, guys? As somebody from the west side of Cleveland, Ohio, that can appreciate people who find ways to win, because for a large majority of my sports life, I've seen teams not find ways to win, find ways to do it the other way.

1:20:29UConn, as the season gets deeper, they thrive in situations. They don't make mistakes. You have to beat them.

1:20:39Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. Johnny, Big Cat, he mentioned it. You talked about it before we got recording with you. You do two Twitter spaces tonight on Monday, pre - and post-game for the national championship. Can you walk us back? Like, what is the origin of the John Fanta Twitter space? Because it's become synonymous with the college hoops. And I didn't know if that was something that your employer asked you to do or if you just started doing it. How'd that work out? You know what, fellas? It was just it was a weeknight in 2022. I think I was driving up and down the Northeast Corridor. We've all been there.

1:21:14I-95 or whatever turnpike it might be. And I had started to see. I had done periscopes. Remember periscope back like pre-COVID? Those were popular. Those could be a lot of fun. It was a way to engage with people. And I had started to see these spaces come about. And I was thinking to myself, why not try one and see if there's any interest? Well, there was more than just interest. It was a haven for college hoops fans in that moment to call in. It started out with Big East fans who still control much of the spaces and people from Tony on the boat to St. John's shirt guy to the ghost of Luke Karnaseka are the OG callers.

1:21:58The ghost of Luke Karnaseka literally sounds like, is it Toy Story? Is it Zerg? Yes. Sounds like that guy is calling into the show who I had not thought about since I was like 12 years old. but that's what it sounds like when that person calls in and it's an open forum it's an open forum but to answer your question it was not a boss mandate it was not a company mandate honestly um there's nobody that's saying to me hey you have to do this you have to do a certain amount of spaces per season it's it's kind of when i want to do them but it's for the fans i love them it's the best spaces are for the fans i love it's a good mixture of uh of information

1:22:41Big Cat:good analysis and then some absolutely crazy people and then you get you get your reaction to the crazy people which is when you ban guys when you kick them out when guys steal recess from their kids when they take a recess from from a child yeah yeah then you got judge johnny weighing in true on them um well we have to tell the truth about what somebody said about a certain coach yeah over the years yeah it's almost like a confessional it's a just like let the takes flow this is a free space for it it kind of honestly pft think about this the old in the spirit of the easter season the old school confessions which i mean however you've gone to confession is your choice but for those you know old schoolers the original confession was behind the screen yeah yeah so spaces yes you can call in from your burner account and we have no idea it's kind of like your chance to sit down in the room and lay it all out there now what you don't control is how my reaction is going to be it also is the very first area that i ever learned about gesture maxing or frame logging yeah like the those words first came up on those sequences yeah and and johnny i also saw um from your time in indy this weekend you were you were hurling you were hurley maxing so like when you were is that what the term is now whatever it is that you were doing and you did it to Big Cat, to Dave, where you just go in, you just snuggle with your forehead.

1:24:07Big Cat:How many people did you hurly max on this week? Anywhere from 30 to 40. Yeah. Yeah, like it was an active thing in downtown Indianapolis. Pump party activities, you know, while some folks were trying to network and whatnot, was trying to bring the college basketball world together. Yeah. I love it. Because to me, a nice head hug or a nuzzle, did you call it another term yeah we're calling it nuzzle with with with uh hurley kind of just kind of like a snuggle yeah or like a snuggle if you will yeah your head snuggling yeah yeah it's not a big deal yeah exactly it's a very normal activity and my whole goal with that was because did he not make it seem like it's something that is done and in our like he made it seem like it's an everyday type of thing with the reindeer and whatnot listen yeah you're just getting a little bit closer to listen that's all it is that's all you need to do and that's what that's

1:25:02PFT Commenter:what led to that yeah uh johnny i had a take before you came on and i want want you to to set the record straight i'm i'm tired of people complaining about college basketball playing the final four in football stadiums because it's never changing and it's actually it's not as bad as people i think the iphone fucks it up i honestly do i think that when you send a picture from your seats i i was way up in in the heavens last night i was watching the court i wasn't watching the jumbotron it was still a great experience to be there it's not perfect i would rather be in a 20 000 person arena but it's never going to happen so why why are we complaining about it every year also it's like okay so the people who complain about this uh the moment that this doesn't sell out is the moment that your argument can become even remotely valid and that's never going that's never going to to not happen right like they they get 70 000 plus easily and one of my favorite moments of the sports year whether you like college basketball or not i guarantee you because big cat you were there is when they bring up four kids from each school yeah they're student athletes uh from different sports and they join together and sing the national anthem before the two games start and the place is just bonkers good i mean it is it is on another level i don't want to hear it we are in a world of complaining and whining way too often like the other thing people on saturday night who are like why isn't this on main network television and it's nothing against cbs it's more about the fact that tbs has has had a share of the final four for like the last decade plus right it's just nothing new yeah we need we need more like if you want to complain sometimes about certain things that shouldn't be messed with that that that's fine but on the final forefront they fill that football stadium to the brink it is a cool scene when you're inside that building and i do think the majority of seats are are still very good seats and that stage of the elevated court and of the aura of that situation.

1:27:16Like, sports can be unique and can be fun for the right reasons, and the Final Four has produced great moments. I am so against the people who just come out of the woodwork just to say, I don't like it.

1:27:28PFT Commenter:You're right about the aura. It does, again, it's not perfect for basketball. I get that argument, the actual play of the game. I get it, but I think the players have adjusted just fine. the aura is there in when you're playing on that stage in front of you know 70 ,000 people now along those same lines why are we expanding the tournament there's no place for it so you agree yeah we don't need to expand it all right so here's my here's my only so what's the uh what's the proposal 76 it's going to be 76 it's going to be uh 24 teams in the opening round okay before the main bracket okay so it's just another day that i could lose money um i would or gain and can i say this i'm i was before you continue to explain i will say this i also can be reasoned with like i i am not one of those i think there's some of some people in my world who are my friends who are like this is what i believe in and this is what i'm staying to like i'm also willing to give it a whirl but like i don't think that college i don't think that that the field of 68 needs to be messed with.

1:28:31PFT Commenter:I agree with you there. The only way I would be okay with it, and this is never going to happen, so it's a stupid thing to say, but I'm going to say it. I would be okay with an expansion if it was just for the mid-majors. That's it. I don't want to see, if they were like, hey, we are losing somewhat of Cinderella. We want to see these smaller schools get some shine. We're expanding it to 76. You're going to get eight more teams in, but they have to be the team. They have to be, you know, the year the Indiana State didn't get in. You know, like a Drake or some of these teams, right? Get these teams in.

1:29:07PFT Commenter:I'm all for it. If they expand it and we know what's going to happen, I did not need to see a 500 Indiana team play a 500 Auburn team. I didn't. I don't need to see that. So that's where I'm like, this is what's going to happen. They're going to just get more Power 5 conferences, Power 4 conferences into this thing, and it's going to stink. Yeah, you want to see a Belmont or like a UNC Wilmington, the top tier mid-major that didn't win their conference tournament. Right. You know, like when the Big West, they had, I think they had UC San Diego and UC Irvine. Like if both have had a sensational season where they're both a combined 60 and 5.

1:29:47But I will say this, and I believe this to be true. And if you don't, you can push back on it. We are in a world where the committee do not tell me that they don't read stuff and read social media and get peer pressure. I believe, like I believed it with Miami and they gave in. They did. And then Miami, that was sick when they beat SMU in Dayton. That was so much fun to watch. I do believe that of those eight, my heart says we will see at least two of the eight be from a non-high major because of you have to put this team in if you're going to expand the field. This is why. Like, I don't think Miami University's case is going to be a one-off when we're selecting the field.

1:30:34So I don't think all hope is lost. I just don't think you're going to get – like, I want four and four.

1:30:38PFT Commenter:Yeah. I want four non-high major and four high major. See, what you just said, though, what they should actually do is they should make, like, depending on how the season rolls around, and maybe you could do it like two weeks before, where they say, hey, here are the six conferences that get two bids. And these six – so like the Missouri Valley, because, you know, Northern Iowa wins as a six seed. Northern Iowa goes to March Madness, but so does Belmont because they won the regular season. So there's six mid-majors, their regular season winner and their conference tournament winner goes to March Madness.

1:31:15PFT Commenter:And if it's the same team, then you let an Auburn in. Then the bubble gets bigger. How about this idea? You're a television partner right now, and you call up the top five or six non-high major leagues. Okay? And I'm excluding the – well, if you want to include the Atlantic 10 in the Mountain West, that's fine. The Mountain West is going through some change now with the new Pac-12, which I think will be a feisty league because Gonzaga and San Diego State, Boise State, Colorado State, remember I said this, the new Pac-12 in basketball next year will be a fun late-night league for all involved. That being said, you call up your television partner, you call up the six best non-high major leagues, and you say you are going to hold the third Saturday in February.

1:32:07Your top four or five teams from the last two or three years, you're holding it, and we're renewing bracket busters. And there is incentive in mid-February for we are going to set up matchups. We don't know what they'll be. But when there's a – let's just say there's a Miami and a UC San Diego, and both are a combined 52 and 5. You're telling me you wouldn't watch that with two weeks to go before Selection Sunday? Yeah. That's their chance on national TV to say we belong then in the field.

1:32:39Big Cat:Yeah. I love it. Bring back bracket busters. Bring them back. I love it. Yeah, it's not a bad idea. I just look at the number and I just think I don't want it. Maybe it's because I'm resistant to change, Johnny. Maybe it's just because I like March. I like, honestly, I like 64 teams, but I adjusted to the 68. I've learned to appreciate the playing games, especially since we've had some winners that end up making little Cinderella runs. I like that, but this to me seems like pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered. Yeah, I am not in favor of it, right? This is, you know, I think we're talking in a town hall meeting right now where, okay, Well, if you're going to change the structure of the, I don't know, the structure of the recreational athletic board, can we at least serve steaks at the barbecue this summer and upgrade from Costco hot dogs and hamburgers?

1:33:33Nothing against Costco hot dogs and hamburgers, but can we at least, like, let's go to the next level on the menu. So if we're going to change it, I don't want to change it. But if we are going to change it, there are some parameters that America wants to see in there. And the committee, you need to listen. And also, you've got to be open to the idea that if the little guy still has that type of a season, give them an invitation to the ball. Because to me, the NCAA tournament is the ball. It's the castle. and your carriage pulls up, whether you're the heavyweight like Michigan or you're high point and you've got this flair, you've got a dance move that nobody knows about.

1:34:14Okay. We all once showed up to that dance in seventh or eighth grade where we said, I'm going to make this move tonight. That's what I, if you're going to change the structure of the tournament, you're going to invite some more, you know, you're going to welcome sixth grade in now because you want, you want them to join seventh and eighth because you got to sell more pizza at the dance hall. please please don't totally ruin a good thing i love it come on i appreciate that johnny well said

1:34:40Big Cat:now for the actual game on monday night you said it earlier like michigan if they play like they played in the semi-final there's no chance that they lose i think they beat anybody in the country easily if they play that game um but you could also say like maybe they already played their best game maybe that's the peak that michigan will ever will ever accomplish with that team and if there's one team that could stop them, it's just UConn and whatever weird wizard luck that Coach Hurley and that – honestly, the school of UConn. The University of Connecticut has had crazy luck going back since, what, 1999?

1:35:16Big Cat:99, yeah. When they first started? 99, Queen Alamein, yeah. Yeah. So, like, if there's one team that can interrupt what seems to be the best team in college basketball, it could be UConn. But what chances do you give the Huskies on Monday night? You ever see the movie The Shining? yep yeah the the opponent for um jack nicholson which in that case it's what shelly duvall and her son running around the hotel and he's biking around that that's what it's like playing uconn i like that yeah okay here's danny yeah right yeah like that's that's basically and he's running around in the snow like Michigan is hoping for a freeze to death.

1:36:01Okay. But, but if things start cooking in the hotel, anything could happen. And, and that ax gets going like UConn chops wood. This is who they are. They don't, they don't care what the score is. They don't care what the circumstances are. They don't care that they're outmatched. Now, if Michigan and Connecticut hit play 10 times I think Michigan wins the game eight out of the 10 times the question on Monday night is is tomorrow one of the two yeah and I think Hurley's like good for one of those and the other is Michigan has a horrid shooting night and but they're coming off a 12 made threes performance on Saturday so either we're going to see more of the same if we see more of that I just can't the reason why I can't see UConn winning if Michigan's hitting 12 threes is because UConn's ability to win the game is from the three-point line.

1:36:56And how does Terrace Reed – nobody's been able to really break Terrace Reed. He's been the big bear for UConn. They've got a Dymar and Mraz Johnson waiting for him in the paint.

1:37:06PFT Commenter:Yeah, that's a decent point because it's like – I actually thought Illinois' length bothered him a little bit on Saturday night, and it was like a little bit of, oh, this isn't as smooth as it has been in the tournament so far. And then you look up, he's got 17 and 11. Like, wait, what the fuck? Oh, he's fine. Like, he's having a pretty efficient night and doing what he wants to do. So that's how good he has been. I do think if they can get Mara in any type of foul trouble. That would be big. And I don't want fouls to decide the game. I hate when that happens, especially in college basketball, especially in a national championship.

1:37:46PFT Commenter:um yeah it's gonna be it it's it I keep going back to the fact that UConn just non-conference is such a different animal and that's that's kind of what you got to hope on but I I also think that Michigan is just if Michigan plays a b-plus game I think they win like that that's how good Michigan is you know well we we know the officials okay so it's James Breeding it's going to be jeff anderson and kip kissinger well the the one thing to to consider there uh as much as breeding and hurley have a bit of a history i think that hurley would tell you he likes breeding and his record's actually pretty good with him but hurley did not have a big east official in the national semi-final i thought it could hurt it really didn't illinois illinois's offense was not good.

1:38:38You guys, we would all admit, they just didn't have a very strong showing. Mirkovic and Stojakovic kind of disappeared in the game. The fact that he's got people he knows is very important because Michigan, you guys know how they defend. They don't jump.

1:38:53PFT Commenter:Yeah. There are trees inside. The other thing is, can Demery rattle Cadeau? Demery got Wagler. Wagler was really good, but Wagler still took a couple of off-kilter threes. He wasn't his full rhythm self. He was searching for it late in the game. Silas Demery is the head of the snake defensively. Can Demery force Cadeau? Because the one thing about Elliot Cadeau is he does fall into some bad turnovers at times. At times. But Yaxel Lindeborg is on another level. This guy is playing insane basketball. On paper, Michigan by 8 to 12 points. But the game's not decided on paper. And like I said, like, I just keep thinking of this of this character.

1:39:38The author's name is Jack in The Shining. And he's just sitting and he's just sitting at the bar and he's looking at the bartender who doesn't even exist because he's having a vision. And he's like, pour me another one. And that's Hurley in that hotel. And you have got to you have to kill them off. Yeah, they he doesn't stop. They don't stop. And if you think that they're going to be afraid of Michigan because Michigan's bigger than them, they're UConn. Remember about UConn. You want to know about UConn's toughness? They went into Allen Fieldhouse and won. Okay? Arizona didn't do that this year.

1:40:13And they lost two games heading into Saturday.

1:40:16PFT Commenter:Yeah, you're right. You're right.

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1:41:29PFT Commenter:Hey, non-national championship. Who's going to coach North Carolina?

1:41:37PFT Commenter:Billy Donovan? But the longer this goes, the more you have to think about Billy Dean. Yeah. The longer this goes, because it feels like in Chicago, what direction are the Bulls going in? Nowhere. Just kind of floating around.

1:41:51Big Cat:Nowhere. They're floating around. Actually, we actually are tanking.

1:41:54PFT Commenter:we just tanked too late this year, but we are officially tanking. It's just a random collection of guards. And like even the guys that you're like with Boozelis, do we really know what he is? The answer is no. You know, we really don't. So the certainties on that roster are none. And if you're Billy, do you want to – you've had a Hall of Fame career. You are quite literally in the Hall of Fame. what would it do to college basketball if you walk into chapel hill and now you're playing john shire and now you're at carolina and they're gonna fund him like if you're a carolina donor yeah think about think about this think about the carolina donor who in the last two years was like belichick belichick belichick um i think you watched enough to say if billy donovan gets hired a Carolina, whatever pennies you were giving over to football, you're just going to be like, well, we went, we, we are a basketball school and we just hired a guy who literally like he has an NCAA tournament win percentage of like 83, 84, close to 85 % of the games he's coaching.

1:43:01And he's coached a lot of games and he's got rings, multiple rings to prove it. So I am on the Donovan hype train if it's not billy donovan the guy that i think is going to crush it wherever he lands i hope he stays at vanderbilt forever but i think mark byington is a stud like this guy this guy crushed it he didn't win he crushed it at james madison now he's crushing it at vandy it's not like vandy had like when he took over it's not like he was taking over a wagon no he's gotten it back to being that. They're really, really good.

1:43:36PFT Commenter:What's the hire if you're a North Carolina fan, you're like, oh, please don't do that. That's realistically on the table. Jerry Stackhouse? I'm just saying, what is that hire? There's got to be... Rasheed Wallace. Yeah, there's got to be a guy...

1:43:55Big Cat:Actually, I would love... That would be the most entertaining hire.

1:43:57PFT Commenter:Jerry Stackhouse was a coach at Vanderbilt, obviously. I'm just saying, what's the guy where, if If you're a UNC fan, you got to be like, oh, shit, we're going to freak out here. Kim English? Imagine. I don't want to put that. He's not in the running there. Well, no. I mean, people are talking about him. No. Yeah. We literally just. Right now. I literally just said his name. Yeah, right. We're talking about him. John Fanta. John Fanta for the North Carolina job. People are talking about it. Yeah, yeah. Me for the North Carolina. He's not going to do it because NBA Johnny. Yeah. Yeah, Penny Hardaway.

1:44:34Rico Penny Hardaway. Penny Hardaway, who will be back in Memphis, as far as we know. Yeah, that's nuts.

1:44:39Big Cat:Yeah. Create some leverage. Yeah. Hey, I'm up for care. See, that's the thing in the coaches, agents world. You could say whatever you want. Like, there's no agents leverage it all the time. Like, the Syracuse search. The Syracuse search, there was so much untrue stuff coming out of that. I mean, you know, you call up, like, I don't know. I got a name for you, Johnny. Go ahead. At UNC. Will Wade. yeah right i was gonna say we'll bring him back yeah i was gonna say we'll wait yeah you know they could do they won't do it but like i know that he's got a past um on stuff but like chris beard would do a heck of a job there yeah but he's got you know uh nato you do a lot work but that would be just signed a new deal right he signed a new deal so that's not gonna happen

1:45:24PFT Commenter:do we do we by speaking of uh uh new deals and everything's going around do we believe we're just talking about this as well. Dusty May in his, uh, what he said, he's, he's not looking for any other college basketball jobs. Do you think that that was a, Hmm, that's interesting. Why didn't he say all, all coaching jobs? Because he's going, I think he will be an NBA coach someday. And I think that he wants to be an NBA coach someday. Yeah. He he's, he's a mastermind. He's got great demeanor for it. Um, he's got a really, really good way about him. Good attitude about like his his whole philosophy fits the NBA the way that I like I've seen their shoot arounds this guy that he it looks like that type of operation it's not your typical college operation that was very strategic from his agency that was the messaging of that was at some point and I don't think it'll be now I don't think it'll be and maybe it won't won't happen but I do think 10 years from now Dusty May is going to be an NBA head coach yep yeah makes sense so So the short list would be Byington and Stackhouse, Fanta, Donovan.

1:46:34Big Cat:Kim English. And you have to make Brad Stevens say no.

1:46:37PFT Commenter:Yeah. Has Brad Stevens said no? We're going to put this on a sheet. We're going to put this on a sheet.

1:46:41Big Cat:John Fanta's North Carolina short list. Has Brad Stevens said no yet? I think he did. He quite literally did. Okay. Do you like go back and ask him again? Just, hey, just making sure. Yeah.

1:46:52PFT Commenter:What if no doesn't mean no with Brad Stevens all this time?

1:46:55Big Cat:I feel like I made you say no, but I don't feel like you wanted to say no. You're giving me vibes that it's not actually a no. Could you see like, you know, we've all been able to, Brad, dot, dot, dot. Yeah. One more from Bubba Cunningham. Yeah.

1:47:11PFT Commenter:Like, hey, listen, I know you said no, but I feel like you wanted me to ask again to really feel that we wanted you. Right. Right.

1:47:23It's a complicated search. because they're getting a lot of heat, a lot of heat for where they are as a program. And there's questions about money. There's questions about can they compete with the likes of others and whatnot. They're not going to get TJ Altsaburger. I think he's committed to Iowa State. And by the way, anybody who says right now that Ben McCollum is going to move on, Ben McCollum's an Iowa City guy. you two will like this. I think he's going to be the Iowa head coach for years to come. I agree.

1:47:59PFT Commenter:I've been saying that. He's not going jump seat route. Nope. I agree with that. He's going to be around. We'll see if Scott Drew gets in the picture.

1:48:09Big Cat:What about... He wants it. I think he wants it. I think Scott Drew would take it if offered. Okay. So do you think that they would offer Scott Drew? They're waiting on Billy Donovan. Yeah. Now, what about any vibe going into this offseason for the University of Kentucky? Is it heating up? Is Pope on the hot seat? Well, from my understanding, can't say that on Easter. I can rephrase. Are they focusing on Pope's performance next year, determining his job status? when you're coming off the season that you just had and yeah you beat santa clara but then you got you really got your doors blown off in the ensuing game by iowa state yeah it's it's um this is a very critical year three for mark pope uh where if it's a one and done or if they're right on the bubble.

1:49:09That's not the standard in Lexington. It's not. It's also a reflection of where we're at in the sport right now, guys. Like Michigan, Illinois, Arizona, they can all say that right now they feel better about where they stand than Kansas, Kentucky, and Carolina. Yeah. Because of their coaching situations, and the rev sharing has thrown off the blue blood. It's kind of why what UConn does is amazing, because they're not in a football conference, but they just keep winning. Again, they're the shining in college basketball or Michael Myers. But for Kentucky, if they don't make the second weekend of the NCAA tournament next year, yeah, things are hot.

1:49:48They're not going to spend$22 million again. And oh, by the way, I've seen people tweet this, and now I am going to say get off the lawn. The people who tweet Monday night, if Michigan is to win the national championship, money just bought that championship. okay why don't you ask kentucky kansas state hell even kansas and cal duke they got a lot of money why don't you ask them how the money that they spent what it ended up doing for them ultimately you could spend money okay and kentucky spent over 20 million dollars on their roster and didn't make it out of the first week of the ncaa tournament yeah do not take credit away from a team that came together and won a championship if if i see those takes that i i will be the siren's gonna go

1:50:34PFT Commenter:off like i'm i'm coming after i like that i like that yeah it is funny that uh it's now becoming like exhausting for anyone to even the people who are like is yukon a blue blood it's like why are why are you even saying this anymore they're the best program in the last i actually saw a really good take today that i i might have to co-op shout out whoever put this out there i don't have it right in front of me. They actually said that Duke's not a blue blood because a true blue blood is winning championships with multiple coaches. Duke just had one coach. They're a system university? Correct. Kentucky's one with multiple.

1:51:09PFT Commenter:That's the definition of a blue blood. It's the school, it's the organization that carries it, not just the coach. I like that one. I'm going to go with it. Well, I know why you like it, and I know that you're going with that one. I hate to let you down. Kind of true. You're going to hate me for saying this, but I do think John Shire will win a national championship for the next three years. Okay, and I think John Fanta is in the running for the North Carolina job if we're just doing hypotheticals.

1:51:39Big Cat:I think that John Shire has had two really good teams the last couple years. I'm just picturing, like, a baby blue tie in Carolina.

1:51:50PFT Commenter:Oh, he looks so good. Oh, my God. John Fanta just walking out in center court in the Dean Dome. I want to tell you right now, UNC Nation, I think of Dean Smith. I think of Roy Williams. I think of what's been built here. But I'm going to tell you, we're going to take it to a level that it's never seen before. Yes. We're going to do something here. Duke. Duke. Down the road. NC State. Little brother down the road. It's our time. and we're about to show it. We are North Carolina. We are the Tar Heels. Tar! We are the Tar. John Henson and Tyler Hans for all my boys. Let's bring up the heavyweights.

1:52:34Let's bring up the heavyweights. Coach Belichick's in the crowd. Coach, I wish my Browns kept you forever. Jordan, we'll talk. Nice, John.

1:52:45PFT Commenter:Everyone's like, what the fuck did that guy just say? He's the new coach at UNC. Talking about the Browns? Would you – since we're now – like, it's now out there that John Fanta is in the running for the North Carolina head coaching job. Very much am not. Just want to make that clear. Are you – have you prepped your wife that she's going to have to be best friends with Jordan? Like, that is – that she's going to. Like, that's just – the wives hang out together. Like, that's going to happen. Have not prepped the wife. Okay. All right. You might want to do that.

1:53:17Big Cat:Jordan's very friendly. Very friendly. Yeah, they'll get along great. You might want to do that.

1:53:20PFT Commenter:she's sleeping right now. Maybe wake her up and be like, hey, honey, what are your thoughts on Jordan?

1:53:26Big Cat:She just won a ring. I don't know if you saw that, Johnny. Jordan won a ring last week. Go wake her up. Go ask her. Yeah. And the sheer response of that would just be an incredible type of reaction that I really can't fully sum up. You look good in the Argyle. It'll be a nice pattern on you. Oh, my God. Oh, hand in hand with Roy. You look really good, Johnny. Oh, Johnny.

1:53:55PFT Commenter:It's not happening. We need the Photoshop. Shane's listening right now. We need the Photoshop of Johnny Fanta in the Carolina blue.

1:54:02Big Cat:Hanging out with MJ. Yeah.

1:54:04PFT Commenter:Listen, there's just out of – you mentioned your Browns, which that was weird for if you're a Carolina fan sitting in the stands and the guy just going on a rant about the Browns. BFT's favorite story of all time, Condoleezza Rice. Like, there's out-of-the-box hires that could happen.

1:54:18Big Cat:She would have been a hell of a coach, Johnny. Yeah. Oh, that's your trash can.

1:54:24PFT Commenter:That's so good. How many other basketball-themed things do you have in your office? Oh, I love it. I can't. Like, I can't. How does that get out? Like, how? Also. Oh, please. Okay. Please. Like, there's two things. There's two that. And then the last 10 days. Have you seen what they think? Like, what? Deshaun.

1:54:52Big Cat:Get ready to learn Deshaun again. Yeah, he might take what looked like a swing and a miss and turn it into a grand slam. Yeah. What else you got? Oh, there we go. Okay, that's good. This looks like the third grade.

1:55:05PFT Commenter:Yeah, that's crazy. That's got soccer balls on it, too. The trash can is elite. Oh, my God. I also didn't notice that you're – It's like, look, I have this. What is that? Oh, the brownie. All right, there's a brownie. I have all the gear. How many little basketballs? Oh, there we go. Is it a CD or a coaster? How many little basketballs? I don't understand how the discourse on that could be. But again, this is my football team. And I won't ever leave them, guys. No, of course not. Man, how about the haircut thing? Oh, yeah. I said to my buddy, like, look. But winter tie, Coach Munkin, Cleveland's with you.

1:55:51Winter tie. But there are some stories like when the mascot fell off the barge and then we all found out that it was staged. Let's try to be a little professional. I'm rooting for them. I want them to win. I'm friends with people over there. Cleveland so badly wants it.

1:56:09Big Cat:But the Condi Rice, the fact that that was in the ether, and I don't know Condi. That'd be an amazing interview. I mean I would love to get a chance to sit down like that's gotta be you guys have to lock up that interview and just say okay what questions like how did that interview go if you ever get a chance to interview Condoleezza Rice just can I write some questions for you absolutely I would love to you can come to the interview PFT

1:56:38PFT Commenter:PFT will write some interview questions you will come to the interview and I will be at Max's batch party Okay. Perfect. And you're going to be in the running for the UNC job.

1:56:49Big Cat:Oh, hey, how about this? UNC, hire John Fanta. It's a slam dunk. And then, Johnny, you do the dunk. Do the dunk. Yeah.

1:56:57PFT Commenter:Yeah, say that. Say that. Hey, North Carolina, make the right decision. I'm John Fanta. I'm your next head coach. And then slam dunk. And this is a – you talk about a slam dunk. Duke, more like puke. Watch this. Slam dunk. again for the record there's i have no interest in this well

1:57:20Big Cat:you put together a hell of a staff just a great day to be a tarheel johnny i actually think

1:57:26PFT Commenter:listen uh you're you obviously have not coached basketball to that level uh no it's not i think you're no no no hold on i'm gonna give you a comment here i think you're a smart enough guy very smart guy no basketball well enough i think you put together a staff and a portal hall i think this is i think this would work for unc i think i would call greg campy at oakland i don't even know greg we've never even talked but i just love his personality i love his swagger i love his work and i would hate to do this to oakland but i'd be like greg you say the number yeah you're gonna come in here you're gonna handle this yeah and then you're just you're the face of the program and i then i get back on the phone yeah you know like i may not attend every coach's breakfast yeah or every coach's convention out the final four but i've got my different connects and we would we would find a way to assemble a coach no this is happening i

1:58:18Big Cat:also think for purposes like how many people are listening to this interview right now i'm pretty sure we could get everybody to donate everyone that's listening would donate a dollar towards or NIL? Okay. Let me tell you something right now. I coached, I've coached one season in my lifetime in basketball, maybe two.

1:58:35PFT Commenter:How'd you do? Uh, we, we, we made the city playoffs. We made the CYO city playoffs with a team that was not, not very talented. I coached my brother's team. Um, you know how you at that level, like you have to go through virtus training and whatnot. Totally did not do that. Don't know how I slid through the cracks for the whole two seasons that I was able to do it, but figured out a way. Volunteered the concession stand-up at St. Bernadette in Westlake. There was a holiday tournament one year, okay? I was on the bench with my dad and one of his best friends, okay? And I would handle a lot of the ins and outs of the team.

1:59:11One, three, one. Of course, you're the coach. Yeah, exactly. You know, a little stack, a little trap, a half-court trap into a man-to-man, you know, three-quarter court pressure, then dropping back. like different coverages, different things. Okay. And I got to tell you one time we were playing St. Mark's in this Christmas tournament and we grinded out a win. And I almost ended up like the Friday night, Yukon, South Carolina women's deal. Okay. The coach at St. Mark's was a guy by the name of Pete, who does a hell of a job running a, a, a liquor store in Cleveland. He runs a bunch of liquor businesses in Cleveland.

1:59:51But Pete was a dad. Okay. And he knew that I was not, that I should not have been like a Virtus trained coach. I was in eighth grade coaching this team. So this guy is, he's very much older than me, by the way, runs a great business in Cleveland. I'm not going to give the last name. He runs a great business in Cleveland. I like no ill will, but I will say this. We won the game. And in the handshake line, he said to me, I'm going to get you you're not Virtus trained you're practically tampering this is CYO Cleveland basketball and it was December 23rd it was the Christmas tournament and I'm in 8th grade and I turned back and I said Pete, if I were you I'd get back to the holiday beer sales oh, let's go Johnny

2:00:37Big Cat:that's what you're getting in North Carolina that's the attitude that we need at Chapel Hill

2:00:41PFT Commenter:that's what you're getting in Chapel Hill I'll also throw this in there if UNC hires John Fanna PFT and I will become mega boosters we're not going to put a dollar on it because I don't want to put a cap on it we will become mega boosters of the North Carolina basketball I don't want to say a number

2:01:03Big Cat:I'm afraid of the number I'm about to say to you right now we're talking Saudi money buddy we're talking oil shit I am wholly committed I want to make it very clear this interview is taking a turn I love this I am wholly committed to NBC Sports and fully, fully dedicated to NBC Sports and everything. All the great things that I'm doing at NBC Sports.

2:01:26PFT Commenter:20 minutes on John Fanta possibly taking the U.S.

2:01:29Big Cat:That's the only journalism job you want right now. Yeah. Johnny. Yeah.

2:01:33PFT Commenter:What are you going to say, Max? The campaign that we're going to put on social media for Fanta. It's going to be insane. Oh, it's going to be crazy. Yeah.

2:01:42Big Cat:Hey, Johnny. Hey, Chapel Hill, don't you want a Fanta? Yeah. This is the most But it does sum up the carousel

2:01:51PFT Commenter:I want Zach I want the vanilla to be Carolina blue tomorrow Let's get some food dye in it For Johnny Fanta the ice cream machine I am not interested in the job Right wink He's winking for the audio listeners He's winking at us right now He's got his Carolina blue eyes You could win at UNC I have an afghan in my office Oh, man. Just so you know, Johnny, if we don't beat Duke, I'm going to fucking come for your neck. I will be waiting in your office for you. As a mega booster, I got keys to your office. Holy shit. How soon into this are I sending out jumpsuits?

2:02:33Big Cat:Immediately. I'd say act number one. That's the first question you ask in the interview, actually. Where do you guys keep the jumpsuits?

2:02:40PFT Commenter:Hey, what size you got in the jumpsuits? I need all of them. Shipment. Yeah. A shipment. All right, Johnny, I got one last question for you. Roback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE, 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Z-S polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com, promo code TAKE. Can't wait to get this campaign going. It's going to be a blitz tomorrow. No, it's not happening. It is. It is. The campaign is out of your hands, just so you know. So anytime I'm wearing baby blue, this is not good. Oh, you've got to wear baby blue this week. Give us a little wink and a nod. You're calling what game on Wednesday?

2:03:12PFT Commenter:Tuesday. Tuesday. I've got rockets and suns from. Give us just a little touch of baby blue. Wait, hold on. Hold on. Give us a touch.

2:03:22Big Cat:I love everything he's got in his office here. I know. He's got. The fantas. He's got the. Everything looks like a basket. Yeah. He had. He just said he has an Afghan in his office. Like Condoleezza Rice.

2:03:34PFT Commenter:He's got. He's got a gamer chair. I don't think he games. No, I don't. Okay. Oh, here we go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it looks beautiful. That's it. All set for the charter plane ride. Does this have stroopwafels on it? Yeah, go a little Digger Phelps with a highlighter, maybe a baby blue highlighter on Tuesday night. That's what I'm talking about. It'd be nice. Can you just say just one time, can you say go to hell, Duke? No. I can't. Come on. Just say I'm John Fanta and I endorse myself as North Carolina head basketball coach. This is the car stops. Ask your rollback question. The rollback question.

2:04:17PFT Commenter:Get us pumped up for Monday night. Get us ready for the national title game. There's a lot of naysayers out there that say, hey, Michigan, they look like the best team in the world. They're going to kill them. It's going to be a snooze of a watch. Get us ready to go for Monday night. It's the monster of a machine that is the Michigan Wolverines taking on the Michael Myers of March Madness, a dynasty of sorts out of stores, a land of championships, the Yukon Huskies, Big Ten versus Big East. And speaking of the Big Ten, 26 long years, 26 long years since a prime rival of the Michigan Wolverines, those Michigan State Spartans, last gave the conference a national championship.

2:05:06A drought that has been thought to be unfathomable, but it still exists. And on Monday night, the Wolverines have a chance to end it. Behind Mara, Johnson, Cadeau, Lendeborg, they have been a wagon. just three losses on their season and on the other side it's UConn Dan Hurley is he loved by everyone the answer to that question is no and guess what he doesn't give a damn his Huskies keep on sledding and they're sledding all the way to college basketball's granted stage who do they have that Michigan does not Alex Caravan 18 and 1 in the NCAA tournament that's tied for second for wins in the big dance as a starter.

2:05:55Second with one Bobby Hurley. Bobby's bro, Danny, leading the Huskies with Silas Demery, Terrace Reed, solo ball who's banged up and all, and he's going to play through it. UConn. Just when you think they're done. Just when you think you can't, as the great Jim Nance, happy Masters Week everybody once said. UConn. Huskies, Wolverines, for all the marbles in college basketball, Monday night in Indy.

2:06:26Big Cat:That's awesome. That's awesome, Johnny. I love it. Johnny, thank you.

2:06:30PFT Commenter:Thank you for joining us. As the next head coach of the North Carolina Tar Heels. I'm going to miss you on the air. Yeah. Will you still come on the show? Again. Promise us you'll still come on the show. I can't wait to be back on your show as an NBC sports broadcaster. Okay. I'm sure they let you do both. We can get Quiggs to change the NBC to UNC.

2:06:52Big Cat:Yeah.

2:06:53PFT Commenter:Easy. That's easy.

2:06:54Big Cat:I mean, it's got two of the three letters, Johnny. Yeah, you're right there. You're so close to being UNC. You're right there. You're really close. Our Tar Heels is where we turn it around.

2:07:05PFT Commenter:There are some good biscuits down there. There are some very good biscuits. You're selling yourself.

2:07:09Big Cat:Tobacco Road, Johnny. I like it. I like it, Johnny.

2:07:12PFT Commenter:Just maybe cut the line about the Browns and Belichick and the press conference.

2:07:16Big Cat:Yeah, we'll bring that up later. Yeah. Hey honey, we've got a breakfast with Jordan. Yeah. Yeah. Every day. Standing. Should that be the wake up call tomorrow? Like should that be my wake up to what I'm talking about? Yes, let her know. Let her know. Honey, you got a new best friend. Yeah.

2:07:32PFT Commenter:Her name's Jordan.

2:07:33Big Cat:And she is fantastic.

2:07:36PFT Commenter:All right, Johnny, you're the best. Love you. We'll see you later. Thank you, boys. Love you back. Thanks for having me. Max, have a great batch party.

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2:08:32PFT Commenter:Okay, good show, boys. Masters week, Hank. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, Barstool Mini Golf Week. Yeah. So tune in. We got a great mini golf tournament set up. Old verse young, Ryder Cup style. You guys are stacked. Hank's already making excuses. You guys know. I'm just saying. It's like it would be you guys are probably more favored than Michigan tonight. That's just not true at all. Why do you say that?

2:08:59Big Cat:That's not true at all, Hank. I suck at mini golf.

2:09:02PFT Commenter:Every year I collapse. Your team is good. No, your team's good. We don't even know who our teams are. Right. So if it's just you, you're the best golfer in the office. Not the best putter.

2:09:13Big Cat:You practice the most at putting on the mini golf And you can golf left and right Who practices putting more than you? I don't really practice putting

2:09:21PFT Commenter:That's the problem, I should practice more putting

2:09:23Big Cat:You do though

2:09:26PFT Commenter:I really don't But you're also ambidextrous That could be a huge way I'm just so bad with my right that I switch to left

2:09:34Big Cat:Are you putting left handed? No This is some bullshit

2:09:37PFT Commenter:I might not even be on the team What do you mean? I have to qualify

2:09:41Big Cat:No you don't, you're the captain Hank, your whole thing is becoming left-handed, and you're not going to putt left-handed? I'm never putting left-handed.

2:09:48PFT Commenter:I'm doing everything else lefty. I don't think so. What if I break your right-handed putter before a round at Augusta that we have? I'll head up our friends at Taylor Mraining. No, no, no. We're literally walking in, and I snap your right-handed putter over my knee, and then I hand you a left-handed putter. I chip. And we're about to tee off. Old school way. Stein it. At Augusta. No, they're not going to let you chip on the green. Yeah, they wouldn't. At Augusta? I got the hands. At Augusta? So you wouldn't putt left? If I had to. I putted lefty at Spive Glass.

2:10:21Big Cat:Why are you not putting left-handed? Because you had one bad day putting left-handed once? It just doesn't feel natural. I feel like if I'm making my entire thing, my entire brand, you're having cases of Twisted Tea made and named after you left-handed, and you're not going to putt left-handed? All right.

2:10:39PFT Commenter:So when you make your new brand, you can figure it out.

2:10:41Big Cat:People are going to want to tune in and see Lefty Lockwood.

2:10:44PFT Commenter:Yeah.

2:10:44Big Cat:And they're going to be like, why is this Lefty? What am I going to tell my kids?

2:10:47PFT Commenter:You guys are scared. No, you're literally just walking around saying that we're so stacked. You're so stacked. Yeah, just looking after your brand. You're so fucking stacked. You're going to make your partner.

2:10:56Big Cat:What is your Masters? What's your Champions Dinner going to be like, Hank?

2:11:01PFT Commenter:I don't know. I haven't thought about that.

2:11:03Big Cat:Yeah.

2:11:03PFT Commenter:Chicken Palm. I did see. T.H. Thompson Chicken Palms.

2:11:06Big Cat:I did see a very funny recap of the worst Masters Dinner of all time.

2:11:11PFT Commenter:What was it?

2:11:12Big Cat:Bubba Watson. Oh, yeah. When he went it twice. Yeah. And it was the same menu each time. And it was like. Confetti cake? Yeah, it was a regular Caesar salad. Confetti cake rocks. Yeah, it does. I stand with him on that. It was funfetti cake. Oh, so good. So it was Caesar salad, just like a regular Caesar salad, and then a grilled chicken breast. And that was his meal. Why does this thing so loud?

2:11:34PFT Commenter:That's awesome. Yeah. Except for the grilled chicken breast. No, that sucks.

2:11:37Big Cat:The grilled chicken breast. I think it had mashed potatoes. The funfetti is awesome. But then the funfetti cake, yeah.

2:11:41PFT Commenter:I might just do Funfetti the whole menu. Just do it. Honestly, just like. Another round of Funfetti for the serve?

2:11:47Big Cat:Just serve some really spicy shit and fuck up everybody's stomach.

2:11:50PFT Commenter:Imagine if you won the Masters and your entire menu was just cupcakes. Yeah. Just, you know, it would be sick because like Masters is obviously very hoity-toity. If it was just like a Russian nesting doll of cupcakes, you start actually the smallest tiny cupcake. Then you just get larger and larger. And then finally, they're like, all right. Oh, whoa. The machine. The lottery turned off. It doesn't do that noise right now. And then eventually, you just get a full, like, supersized cupcake. That's all we're having for dinner. That sounds just delicious. Cupcakes are awesome. Or tiramisu. Tiramisu.

2:12:27PFT Commenter:Probably a little too hoity-toity. My son doesn't like cupcakes, but he likes cake. Tried to explain to him it's the same thing. He likes the frosting probably. He's just like, I don't eat cupcakes. I'm like, but you eat cake. Like, just adamant. Maybe he's eating the wrapper. What? Maybe he's eating the wrapper. He doesn't like it. That's a good point. I didn't think about that. He's probably eating a lot of wrappers. You're right. He's like, I'm no more wrappers. I'm all wrappered out.

2:13:00PFT Commenter:Not again. Another wrap. What I got to do is give him a cake. People like these things? Yeah. Why the... It's always hard to get down. Okay. Good show, boys. Masters, though. Shane Bacon. Hopefully, Max. Maybe Brooks. Wednesday. Get ready. Masters, baby. And mini golf. All right. Numbers. Eight. Three. Fifteen. Twelve. Fifty-six.

2:13:24Big Cat:Thirteen. Twenty-four. Forty-two.

2:13:31PFT Commenter:We got to get it.

2:13:48PFT Commenter:66.

2:13:50Big Cat:Anyone? 66.

2:13:51PFT Commenter:Anyone? One more? One more. 15. 28.

2:14:12PFT Commenter:75 This is fucking hard, man We have a 1 in 10 chance 1 in 9 chance 9 people guessing I guessed it right one time Wait, go ahead, PFC, who you got?

2:14:25Big Cat:Happy birthday to Paul Rudd And Merle Haggard And kind of Jesus, too Did you forget anyone?

2:14:31PFT Commenter:It was Frank Kaminsky's birthday on Saturday Who'd he forget?

2:14:39Big Cat:Michael Rapoport Who'd he forget?

2:14:42PFT Commenter:You sick fuck Who'd he forget? Probably top three Side character Subplot of this show in the last

2:14:53Big Cat:No!

2:14:53PFT Commenter:Football season Stingray Steve Chuck? Nope Big Dom? Nope Bigger More of a partner Real partner Real partner? No. Big time. I have no idea. Wait. Wait. John Fanta. If John Fanta got the job that you guys wanted to get. Belichick? Jordan? Oh, no. PFC. Is Jordan's birthday? You forgot Jordan's birthday? Did I? How? This is my favorite part of the show. Is it really? He's so bad at it. But we do get to birthdays and we get to the person that you forgot. It's my favorite part of the show. You gotta eat. PFT, if you ever get good at this, please make sure that you still eat. Someone needs to make a list of birthdays that you've forgotten.

2:15:40PFT Commenter:Because every day

2:15:43Big Cat:it's like, I was thinking the same thing. Massive.

2:15:46PFT Commenter:Gabe Portnoy, Blake Griffin, Jordan.

2:15:48Big Cat:I try every day. I got Frank Kaminsky. Even early. PFT, if you ever get good at it,

2:15:56PFT Commenter:please intentionally leave a big one out every now and then so we can continue this. because it's insane that you're this guy. You don't need to tell him that.

2:16:04Big Cat:When was Jordan's birthday? April 3rd.

2:16:07PFT Commenter:No, because he might drop everything and just be like, I have to get birthdays.

2:16:10Big Cat:It was her birthday on Saturday. April 3rd was Friday.

2:16:13PFT Commenter:Did you see the NBA finals game last night? I'm just sad with dates, I think.

2:16:16Big Cat:I think that's what the problem is. I have no idea what dates are.

2:16:18PFT Commenter:You forgot Sebastian Eugene Hansen?

2:16:20Big Cat:I have no idea who that is. I don't either. When is I show speeds?

2:16:27PFT Commenter:Sebastian Eugene Hansen.

2:16:29Big Cat:I'm going to give... Let's see. Oh, don't have to worry about that for a long time.

2:16:34PFT Commenter:Who the fuck is this kid?

2:16:35Big Cat:Sebastian Eugene Hanson. How could you forget him? Movie actor. Happy birthday, little guy.

2:16:40PFT Commenter:Oh, he's not little anymore?

2:16:43Big Cat:Hold on. He was in the Minecraft movie.

2:16:46PFT Commenter:Ah, I actually seen that movie. Fuck.

2:16:49Big Cat:Not impressed.

2:16:49PFT Commenter:How could I forget? Sebastian Eugene Hanson.

2:16:53Big Cat:I could beat him up. All right, love you guys. and happy birthday to Paul Rudd, Merle Haggard, and kind of Jesus.

2:17:28Thank you.

2:17:57Thank you.

2:18:29Thank you.

2:18:56Bye.