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27:58He is second in the NFL in rush yards after contact with 634, only second to Jonathan Taylor. He's having an awesome year. He's still very, very fast. The Tua is 0-2 in international games. The Commanders as a franchise have only played one international game. It was a tie. Yeah. So maybe tie? Yeah, Bengals. Yeah. 2016. I'm actually kind of excited to watch this game because it's like, hey, it's the last one. It's also a new stadium. Yeah. We haven't seen this one. Is that right next to La Mancha, Hank? Do you know what that is? Nope. So you're not reading Don Coyote. I got it. You did get it.

28:37It came yesterday. Well, La Mancha was in the page that you read. I don't know La Mancha. La Mancha. The musical was called The Man of La Mancha. Cool. Maybe you should just watch the musical. No, I'm going to read the book. He's going to read the book. Okay, let's go to the regular slate. Panthers at Falcons. Panthers are back to underdogs. That's why I like the Panthers. It's crazy that you can beat a team 30 to nothing, and then you play them again in the regular season, and you're underdogs. Yeah. That's the NFL. That's the NFL, baby. That's why we love this sport. That's the NFL. Drake London, he mispracticed.

29:16He was sick. That's a big deal. I'm guessing he'll probably be healthy by Sunday. Yep. But it does give me a little bit of pause to bet on the Falcons this weekend. We also had the very weird quote from Michael Penick saying they asked him who he uses on the sideline to be a mentor or help him out. He said no one. He said he's got his fiancée and his high school coach. Yeah. That was kind of weird. It is kind of strange. Yeah. Maybe a coaching change if the Falcons keep spiraling. Any names you throw out there? I mean, I think there's a lot of prominent college head coaches that would probably be very interested.

29:52You look at like a quarter. It seems like they might have a quarterback you could work with. You look at positions like running back, maybe a guy from a school that has a history of having dominant running backs. I could see a college head coach going to the Falcons. Okay. You'd have to get SEC, right? Like SEC translates better. You'd probably have to get in the state. I don't know. That's so crazy it might just work. Okay. That would be a shocker. It would be a shocker. A Georgia Tech coach? Yeah. That's not SEC. Oh, true. Yeah. But that's also a great option. That is a great option. Or any other college in the state of Georgia.

30:29Yeah. I'm struggling to think of any other Georgia universities. I'm not really excited to watch this game, but it's going to happen. That's D.C. I think I'm done with. What? Who? Hank's naming HBCUs. Okay. Trying to find one that's in Georgia. I think I'm good with Bryce Young. It was fun the end of last year. I think I'm good. You know what? It was fun that we had a couple weeks where we got to just throw out that red meat and say, did the Panthers make the right pick in the draft? It says CJ Stroud. It was fun to at least say that. Yeah, Bryce Young, and this isn't the end-all be-all of stats, but it's still a shocking one.

31:10Nine out of ten games this year, he's under 200 yards passing. Did he? Oh, he actually didn't start all. So it would be seven of eight. I don't think he's broken 100 yards. No, 200 yards. 200 yards. I don't think he's broken 200 yards. Let's see. I thought he did one game. Let me see. Because in the 30-0 game against the Falcons, he had 121. Yeah, he did against the Cardinals. Oh, he did. He had 328. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. Eight out of nine. Excuse me. Because Andy Dalton started a game. Eight out of nine games, he's not broken 200 yards passing. So that was like a crazy second half of the third quarter and fourth quarter against the Cardinals.

31:51Yeah. He did have 198 and 199. Yeah. But it's not 200. But if you watch the throws that he made, especially last week, he is throwing for like, they're going two yards in the air, three yards in the air. It's very clear they don't really trust Bryce. No. It's a tough watch. But you can just run the ball. Yeah. Like, if you just hand the ball to Rico Dowdle, good things will happen. I like the Panthers, but I also feel like Michael Penix is going to have a good game eventually. Like, he had a good game, what was it, against the Bills? And then he's had some tough games. He's going to have a good game.

32:27Yeah, I'm not out on Michael Penix. No, I'm not either. I'm not on Bryce Young. Yeah. Okay, big game. Big, big game. Bucks at Bills. Bills minus 5.5. Over-unders 48.5. Two teams that are kind of, I think you'd say struggling. Flailing a little bit? A little flail. There's a bunch of good games this weekend. I was trying to think of which one was the crown jewel. I have to have the crown jewel, but I think that's later. I think the crown jewel is Sunday Night Football, but yes. Yeah, well, that's a good one. The Rams and Seahawks also. There's a lot of crown jewels this weekend. Broncos Chiefs, also crown jewel.

33:00Yeah, there's too many jewels. How are we feeling overall, Zach? A little slumpish midseason, but if we can go out and perform against the Bills, I feel good. This does feel like whoever loses this game, it's going to be panic button time. Is that fair? I think Bills fans are already, they gently pushed the panic button. They did like Siri, press the panic button. They haven't pushed it themselves yet, but they asked their Alexa robot, just push it for me. Make sure it still works. Yeah, this game specifically is very big in terms of the Bills season because last week, as bad as it was, and I think it was the third worst loss in the Josh Allen era, as bad as it was, you can kind of convince yourself, well, there was a little hangover from beating the Chiefs.

33:49You circle the Chiefs all year. That's always a big game. Then they go down and play a divisional game. Weird shit happens in Miami. If they can right the ship this week, you feel a lot more confident that things are still okay. If you lose this week, you're like, oh, Jesus, what is going on? I think it could be like the opposite of what the Bills fans have dealt with in the past where maybe they go in the playoffs this year not even as division champions, not a lot of expectation on them. True. And they've beaten good teams. Obviously, they've lost a couple bad teams too. But like in the past, you could say about the Bills that they got fat and happy on a weak schedule or beating up on the bad ones and then struggling at times against some good teams.

34:30It might be a different story this year. That's like the one spin zone you can give yourself. Zach, I got a trivia question for you. Yes, sir. How many times have the Tampa Bay Buccaneers won in Buffalo in the history of the franchise? History of the franchise, we've won in Buffalo twice. Zero times. That's tough. Yeah, never been done. Do you want a follow-up question for the Bucs at Buffalo? I'll do back-to-back trivia. Okay. How many times have the Bucs played at Buffalo and had the longest play in NFL history? Once. Yep. That's facts. They did have the longest play in NFL history in 2017 with the Bucs playing in Buffalo.

35:1444 seconds. It was an end-of-game laterals. They just kept on going and going and going and going and going. Yeah, I love that. Also, they've only played in Buffalo three times. So one third of the time, they have the longest play in NFL history. That's true. Wow. Strong percentages. High ratio. So there's a decent chance that there will be the longest play in NFL history happen in this game. Baker just scrambling around, running over guys, like dodging tacklers. I'm happy that Baker and Josh, who both are guys, we love them both, are doing the nicest trash talk possible back and forth. Baker said, I have to walkie-talkie to him because he's so damn tall.

35:54With Buffalo, it's cold. It's rainy. Even though he's 6 '10", his hands are small, so he better wear his gloves. And then Josh said, Baker is a two-gloves type of guy on the golf course, so that says everything you need to know about him. Just some fun banter. Is that true, though? I don't know if he is. Hank is a one-glove guy on the golf course, like Michael Jackson. Sometimes he put it on the wrong hand, though. I don't think that's true. You don't think he's a two-gloves guy? No, I think that's just a little... Banter? What does that mean if you call somebody a two-gloves guy on the golf course?

36:23Yeah, what is that implying? I'm looking at pictures. I'm seeing only one glove on his hands while golfing. But it's a good burn because you don't want that to stick. You don't want to be a two-gloves guy. It's like having iron covers, head covers for your irons. Is that bad? Yeah. Oh, why? It just means you're scared. Soft. It's like offensive linemen wearing sleeves. Yeah. Yeah. Your golf club should be out in the elements. And also, that glove was actually on the right hand. I just didn't realize it. Oh, yeah, because now you're a left-handed golfer. Your body was trying to tell you, and you just had to listen.

36:57Yeah. This is going to be a weather play for me. I'm making my play on this game strictly based on the weather forecast. Okay. Just talk me through it. It's going to be in the 30s, maybe around 40, a little drizzly. The Bucs can't win that game. It's too cold. I agree with that. It's too cold. I agree with that. I agree with that. All right, so we're going to go weather play. I'm going to go weather play on this game, but both teams, yeah. I think – is there a possibility that you can lose this game and walk away being optimistic about the rest of your year? If the Bucs lose by three points, it's 35 to 32.

37:34Can the Bucs walk away and still be – I think that they can because of the division that they play in. Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's the thing is the Bucs are going to be fine because they're going to most likely win their division. But this does – it's flailing. It's a little slump. Yeah. Slump. This is who can get the slump buster. I also I also this is one of my Hank. You tell me. Do you do we have any hungry dogs this week? Do you like is this one of them? Oh, it is because I saw this line and I was like, well, the bucks are really good. The bills are good, but they've been struggling. Five and a half is way too many points.

38:11Hammer the box. No, no, no, no. That's what they want you to think. Rat. Take the favor. Smell a rat. Yeah. Smell a rat. Smell a rat. It's hungry in Henry, so it's kind of a little bit. It's the hen dog. It's a little bit cloudy. Six right now. Six? Yeah. On the DraftKings Sportsbook. You get a lot of exposure to this game, Hank. It's in both parlays. That is a lot of exposure. Be careful. Don't expose yourself. Diversify. Oh, we are getting the white on white 1965 throwbacks. Ooh. Now, wait. Does this also mean we're getting the red helmets? Can we see it? Yeah, let's check out the helmets. oh this is big i don't really like the white the red helmets i'm gonna say it i kind of do okay let's let's let's find it i'm gonna go to the you can go to the gridiron database max it's actually an awesome website you can just look at uniforms for each week this guy says this is the map this is the it's white it's white helmets with the red buffalo i'm looking at it right now okay the uni watch we never we didn't shout them out but there was a uni watch account that retired on Halloween.

39:20Why did he retire on Halloween? I don't know. He just retired. He announced his retirement? Yeah. I love that. 1999 and 2025. Wait, can I see his retirement? I love when random dudes on the internet retire. It's such a great... What is it, UniWatch? He took down his account. Oh, no. He really retired. Oh, yeah. I know you and he watched Paul, right? Yeah. Paul Lucas. Yeah. Oh, shit. He retired? Why did he retire? That's crazy. I think he, like, wrote a book. My passion for this passion project just isn't what it used to be. No shit. There's too many uniforms? I feel like you should. Maybe you just thought that all the new combos were like Mickey Mouse.

40:09That's crazy that he just shut it all down. Oh. Hello, Paul here with some unfortunate news. Due to a perfect storm of negative developments, I've reluctantly come to the unfortunate conclusion that continue to publish UniWatch is no longer viable. This will be the site's final post. Yes, I'm serious. No, this isn't a Halloween-related prank. Are there those type of pranks? Yeah. Trick or treat. Yeah. UniWatch is shutting down for real. I realize this news probably should come as a shock and that you no doubt have lots of questions, so let's shift into Q &A mode. When did you make the decision to do this?

40:40Yesterday. Although I've been thinking about it for a while. Whoa. what's this perfect storm over the past year uni watch been hit by a number of difficult circumstances sites revenue has been cut roughly in half since may uh ad slump web developer my partner damn okay one of his partners is dealing with an illness that's really sad he doesn't have the the chops technically uh man r.i.p uni watch yeah great website okay what a run and he shut down to Twitter. Sad stuff. All right. Well, sad stuff. But yeah, the Bills are going to wear the whites with the red buffalo. The only logo in sports that has a penis.

41:21Yes. Well, the fake Clark the Cub. Yeah, when he was pantsless. Yeah, when he was pantsless. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Next up, we have the Houston Texans and the Tennessee Titans. Don't. No. Yeah. Yeah, gross. Ugh. Gross. Ugh. Texas. Davis Mills, by the way. I believe Davis Mills is going to be starting. I still like the Texans. Tennessee has gone 14 consecutive games scoring fewer TDs than their opponent dating back to the middle of last season. That is the longest streak for any team since 1976-77 Bucs who did it in 18 streak games. That's pretty impressive. That is, yeah. So the other long streaks were the Chicago Cardinals in 1942 to 1945, the Bucs in the 67-67, the Dayton Triangles, 1927-29, they struggled to score.

42:19The Dayton Triangles, who could forget? What's the over-under on this game? Ooh, it is. Hold on, I'll tell you. I have it written down. 37-and-a-half. 37-and-a-half. They love putting that 37-and-a-half out there. That's the number. Under. I've seen a lot of 37-and-a-halves. This is good for you if you watch this game. Yeah. We'll have this game on. That's about it. Yeah. Any other side tangents we want to take for this? We could talk about the Titans trying to steal the throwback uniforms, although I don't think they're wearing those this weekend. Yep. That's really the only intriguing part of this matchup.

42:55A uniform matchup that isn't happening. That isn't happening, yeah. That's a good nugget. A uniform matchup that could happen. Yeah. What about, Hank, do we have any update on the lefty golfing? No. Okay. All right. So that's... I've been sick. Okay. Yeah, tell us about your illness. What'd you do yesterday? Slept. All day? Yeah. I slept pretty much all day. Went to sleep at 8 o 'clock. Do you feel better? I feel better. Okay. I hydrated a lot. Took a lot of vitamins. Good. Vitamin C. Good. But yeah, I think I'm going to do left-sember. What? Left-sember. Left-sember. Why not left Vember? Because Vember's pretty much over.

43:35Vember's not even halfway. We have more Vember left than we've done. It's the 13th right now. I'm doing left Sember. Thanks, Kevin. You guys want to update? That's the update. Thanks, Kevin. All right. Left Vember. No, left Sember. Left Sember. Only swinging lefty. So you can't swing lefty in Vember? I can. No, you can't. I can do whatever I want. No, you can't. I can and I will. No. And then left Sember. Left Sember. But don't get left Vember going. to go right Vember. I'm doing left Sember. It sounds like you're doing left Vember, but you have Thanksgiving so you're not fully committed to it until Sember.

44:10Correct. What about... But you're gonna still left Vember. I'm gonna do some left Vember. It's gonna be both Vember. I have a friend does like an annual outing the day before Thanksgiving. What about left January? We'll see. We'll see how left Vember goes. It's gonna be left Sember and then we're gonna see if it's worth continuing. Is it going to be a leftcember to remember? We'll see. I don't know. So absolutely no right hand swinging in the entire month of December. Correct. So you're playing in a golf out in Thanksgiving, but you're not going to go lefty there. Or you are? I will probably be playing righty.

44:51But two of the guys I'm playing, it's a scramble, so it's two of the guys I'm playing with are lefties, so I might mix it. So there might be a little left member in there. But leftcember is when it really gets going yeah if anyone sees you hitting righty in left cember they can hit you with their golf cart sure okay i'm not gonna be on a golf course i'll get a golf i think if you hit right-handed in in left cember driving it in the simulator out of nowhere i think i think we just cut your left hand off yeah okay yeah we're gonna go uh what's the saudi arabia country saudi arabia there's also one of the is it philippines somewhere where if you steal they do a lot They'll kill you in the Philippines if you screw up singing My Way karaoke.

45:31Yeah. They will. It's banned. It's a forbidden song in the Philippines. Okay. That was good Texans-Titans preview. Next game, Bears at Vikings. Vikings are minus three. Over under is 48 and a half. I'm very nervous for this game. We've talked about the Bears a lot. The Bears have to get takeaways to compete when they are getting takeaways. they look decent when they are not they're the 30th in epa without turnovers in terms of defensive epa they're the 31st and drop back epa so it's turnovers gotta get turnover yeah it's a matchup of uh mr fourth quarter and also jj mccarthy because caleb williams is actually the best quarterback in terms of game-winning drives and fourth quarter comebacks all season he's been phenomenal leads the nfl in game-winning drives and fourth quarter comebacks this is the big step these next games coming up for the bears where they've beaten a lot of bad teams and the vikings i know or not they're kind of in the middle of the road but caleb has only won one divisional game in his career a year and a half obviously it's not a huge sample size but you got to start winning the divisional games you got to start stacking these type of wins and i've broken up the rest of the bear season i'm not doing any more gateways because we completed the gateway it's this game and the sealers game hat must go one and one don't care how it happens gotta go one and one in the next two that's good that's a good way to break it down then you put yourself in in the position for the divisional games correct of them correct did you see the interview with troy aikman by our good friend ryan glasspiegel from front office sports i did not so they were talking about you know what it's like doing monday night football backlash from fans and he said in 25 years there's bound to be times when you say something and you're like i wish i could take that back or i wish i could say could have said that a little differently or in the moment you say something and you're like that didn't come quite come out right that game talking about the uh monday night football game against the commanders yep was not one of those oh i walked out of that game yeah twist i walked out of that game feeling like okay it was had us in the first half it was a game that came down to the wire it's fun whatever on tuesday evening i had dinner i got home looking on Instagram and Ben Johnson comes up and it's got Troy Aikman written on there.

47:49And I'm like, what is this? That's the first time that he heard about it. And so he says that I would challenge anyone to go watch it and tell me that any analysis I gave was unfair. They may disagree if I thought that was maybe not great ball placement and they thought it was okay, but I'm not sure where the backlash came from. So he's standing behind his Caleb Williams takes, which I guess I respect a guy for standing on it. But yeah, I thought that he would have kind of backtracked a little bit because the backlash to what he said. Like, I've seen a lot of the clips, and he did seem like he was being – like, Troy was being mean.

48:24Yeah, he was being mean. He was being a big meanie butt. A big meanie butt. Real big meanie butt. Yeah. Why are you so mean, bro? He's just a mean guy. Yeah. Yeah, this game also – the thing that makes me nervous about this game is – we talked about it on Monday, but it does not feel like the Vikings' path to success is having J.J. McCarthy throw it 42 times, which he did against the Ravens. Feels like Kevin O 'Connell will figure out, hey, we got to run the ball more. The Bears can't really stop the run. Bears can't really stop anything on defense. And will it look like a lot of runs and controlling the clock and trying to keep the ball out of the Bears' offense hands?

49:03Did Ben Johnson have anything to say before the season about an anticipated rivalry against KOC? Or was that just strictly aimed at Matt LaFleur? Just LaFleur. Okay. I'm just excited. It's fun to be excited about football on Sundays, and the Bears make me excited. We're going to find out. I've said this before, but we have graduated from being a bad team because we beat a lot of bad teams. Now can you get into that class of good team? And it starts with the Vikings and then the Steelers, and then I think it's the Packers or Lions. I don't know, the Eagles. And the Packers in line. So this is it.

49:41Let's find some shit out. I think if you went on the road in Minnesota, you would definitely fall into the good team category. Yeah, or inching closer at least. So I'm excited for this game. Caleb is such a joy to watch. Just figure out a way to get some takeaways. Which the Vikings do give up the ball a lot. So maybe that is the one benefit here going into this game. I think they're second in turnovers. Yeah, second most in the NFL with 16. So take the ball away. Fucking take the ball away. Do you think that the Bears are exceptionally good at taking the ball away, or is it turnover luck? Because there's different types of turnovers.

50:14I've seen both. I think it's a combo. Bayard has made some awesome picks this year. Yes. He does seem like he knows where to be. By the way, not to kick a dead horse, but Kevin Bayard had a clip. It looked like it was maybe just a Bears podcast, but he essentially said that last year whenever the Bears would go down, the entire sidelines would just start freaking out, and everyone would be running around with their head cut off. And he's like, this year when we're down, it's just calm. And so basically, Iberflus had no control of anything. Yeah. Which we knew, but he just said it out loud again.

50:49Yeah, I mean, we're going to – the Iberflus stats are going to continue to come out as Ben Johnson continues to be a competent head coach. Yes. Like, we're going to unearth some stuff that we didn't even know that Matt Iberflus was bad at. Yeah. So to answer your question, I think it's a combo. I do think there's definitely some luck involved. you know the jane daniels fumbled playing geno smith and just playing geno smith is lucky yeah uh this season we should just get it well not for hank yeah not for hank um and the but i do think dennis allen knows the limitations dennis allen actually should get a lot of credit because he's not been dealt the best hand and he's making the most of it i think with some of the limitations that this team has defensively dennis allen knows we got to be a little more aggressive trying to take the ball away so it's a mix yeah but it's it's you can never count on turnovers so you can't go into a game being like we're gonna get three turnovers that's what always scares me okay next game actually probably the the the crown jewel packers the giants giants plus seven over under 42 and a half jamis winston time i am so so happy pft i were on a text exchange with Jameis last night.

51:57Yep. Just congratulating on him, him on getting another shot. I figured we should reach out. Yeah. Because Jameis has been, he's been a great soldier. Yes. He's been an awesome third string quarterback. Haven't really heard much from him in the media in terms of any controversies whatsoever. He's kept his head down and he's just been lurking. Everyone knows that he's there. Everyone saw Russell Wilson play. I think that it was the very definition of malpractice to not only start Russell Wilson, But also then to have Russell Wilson as the backup quarterback for so many games. Shout out Mike Kafka, by the way.

52:34The interim head coach, Mike Kafka, was smart enough. Northwestern guy. He was smart enough to be like, hey, how do I rejuvenate this team? Jameis Winston. That's it. That's it. That's what you need. That is it. I'm pumped to watch him play. Very, very excited. He's going to throw the ball. He plays an entertaining brand of football. it stinks that the Giants are banged up at what I would love to see him with Malik neighbors I would love to see him with Malik neighbors I'm a little worried for Jameis's Jameis uh success because the Packers are off a loss you know how scary they are off a loss I do yeah so like that's the Giants definitely wish that the Packers had beaten these yeah yeah yeah they're scary team off of a loss do you think the Packers get this is a remember when the Bears played the Bengals and I was like this is a must look great on offense I think that's what this is for the Packers they have to look great on offense because the Giants defense is not very good and you you've got a lot of questions floating around and a lot of hot seat talk and this and that Jordan Love has to look good in this game yeah four game losing streak for the Giants in that losing streak they're giving up 32.25 points per game so yes this the offense has to look right they need to run the ball in first down they've stunk at running the football in first down lafleur says he has to look inward so he's thinking about himself uh that's kind of that's the first stop for a coach being like i'll take the blame is like i gotta look inward and then once you do that then you say it starts with me and then it starts and ends with me and then i gotta put my hand up and i'm not doing a good enough job and then that's kind of the end of the road for that yeah yeah then you just get mad instead afterwards yes yeah this is the start of the journey for LaFleur.

54:18People have been talking about him being on the hot seat. I don't think Matt LaFleur is on the hot seat. I don't think that he should be on the hot seat. I don't think he's... I wouldn't put him on the hot seat. I do think he's on the hot seat. You think Packers, they expect more? I think Packers fans are getting restless and Matt LaFleur even said he was just like, no one is taking it harder than me. And I thought about it. I was like, I actually don't know if that's true. I bet you there's like a a dude sitting right now in Wisconsin who the Packers are his only good, positive thing in his life.

54:54And he's probably taking it harder than Matt LaFleur. Not that Matt LaFleur is not taking it hard, but I bet you there's at least a few Packers fans that are in fact taking it harder than the head coach of the Packers. Steve Avery. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? There's definitely some dude who's just like, this is the only, the only, the only thing I enjoy in life is watching the Packers on Sunday. He's probably taking it harder than Matt LaFleur right now. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of Packers fans probably fall into that category. Yeah, he said, I promise that you're not as frustrated as I am.

55:19I bet you there's a couple guys out there that are more frustrated. Yeah, it's not true. Yeah. Not true. The Giants, I think that they put their kicker on IR finally, right? So hopefully they're done for weird kicker injuries this season. But the kicking game for the Packers isn't exactly great either. No, it's not. And the thing is, if the Packers were leading the NFC right now, that would be the question everybody would be talking about in green bay but they got to fix the small stuff before they fix that justin tucker justin tucker just eligible recently justin tucker justin tucker justin tucker think about it by the way this is so if the giants beat the packers at uh if they're if they're plus seven or above it will be the biggest upset in a first game for an interim head coach since 2011 when the chiefs actually beat the packers is 11 point underdogs and i was looking at that game like is there any way the giants can replicate this i don't think so because that was when todd haley got fired and that might be an all-time guy we fucking hate gets fired everyone's pumped yeah situation i yeah i agree with that i I think Kafka might be too smart to be an effective interim head coach.

56:37He might not be. He will be. I think he'll have success down the line here. He doesn't get the rah-rah, I'm a fat guy running through a wall. Right. He would watch an interim head coach take over and be like, this is highly irregular. I'm not sure how this translates to winning. Yeah, and it seemed like everyone in the Giants like Brian D 'Amel. Yeah. So you don't get that bump. You'll get like a, hey, we fired Brian Kelly or Todd Haley. Thank God that guy's gone. Do you think Brian Dable watches this game? Hmm. No, because Jackson Dart stopped playing. Yeah, I agree. If Jackson Dart was playing, he probably would watch it.

57:16I agree. He's probably down in Alabama already. He might be down in Alabama already. Yeah, he might be. Or maybe back in Buffalo. Yeah, maybe back in Buffalo. Okay, next game. Bengals, Steelers. Steelers are minus 5.5 over-under is 49.5 I think the Steelers are going to win this game Okay and I think they're going to cover the spread Okay Do you have this as a hungry dog? I The Bengals so the Bengals defense is so so so so bad There have been five games this year where a team has given up 500 plus yards of offense so the defense has given up 500 plus yards of offense three of those five games are from the Bengals so the Bengals have more games where there's they've given up 500 plus yards of offense than the entire NFL combined that's crazy it's nuts so the what's the what's the fix for Aaron Rodgers looking old and looking like he doesn't want to play football anymore and the Steelers being stuck in mud it's the Bengals defense yeah I mean I know Tomlin is afraid of Flacco yeah Flacco has historically been the best quarterback against the Steelers over the last 15 I think he's 12 and 13 in his career against the Steelers um which is more than any other starting quarterback since 2008 back when Flacco was drafted no other quarterback since then has more than seven wins versus Pittsburgh uh so I do understand why he would be a little gun shy around Flacco but I I do agree I think that the Bengals defense is just historically atrocious dog shit and the Steelers might have gotten maybe they got better on defense i don't know a little bit so they got a sante samuel jr yeah so he's going to be there now they have i i count four sons on the steelers you've got the haywards the porter joey porter jr and a sante samuel jr yeah what good for them and what happened to sante samuel jr you got a spinal tap he had spinal fusion surgery i actually read that the doctor that did the surgery is the steelers doctor dr david on conkwo so that's good yep they got a little synergy there some inside information yeah he's like i will fix you up correctly because we want you on the steelers the guy yeah the guy who did the surgery is not going to say i don't think he can play yeah there's got to be a steelers doctor out there that if like lamar came to him in the offseason being like please repair my my sports hernia yeah he would like tie the groin muscle to the kneecap yeah must win for the bangles i'd say must win for both teams double must win because i'm not ready to write the bangles off entirely yet you said that and i looked at it more and i i actually agree with you because of the schedule and how that division is shaking out if they win this game they still have two games against the ravens so the bangles are not out of it uh the steelers it does feel like this is the most down and out uh division leading team has been this time of year at a long time yeah like everyone's writing them off and being like they're not going to win that division yeah um so it's gotta start sunday um the the also something to watch for this game we could have an all-time bad field because notre Dame and Pitt play I think like Saturday is a Saturday night or afternoon and obviously that happens a lot where Pitt plays and and the Steelers have a game they try to not have back-to-back games but it's also later in the year this is when Heinz Field I still call it Heinz Field it is it's gonna look like absolute dog shit yep yep maybe maybe to the Steelers benefit because they can't stop they weren't able to stop Jamar Chase last time he had 16 catches last time they And he probably could have had 20.

1:00:54It's crazy. It's crazy. So, yeah, this field is going to look like shit, and we're going to have to notice that it looks like shit. Okay, Pitt's actually playing. They're playing at noon local time, so there's exactly 24 hours in between games. Crown's crew working overnight. Yeah, to just, like, move around a little bit of the sand. Yeah, spray paint this spot. Yeah, it's going to look like dog shit. Okay, next game. We're going to the afternoon. No, we're staying in the morning. This is the last early game. Chargers, Jaguars. Thank you. two teams I don't trust also Jaguars are my plus three over under 43 and a half very important game for playoffs to the most important.

1:01:33Yeah. So do you have the numbers? I don't have the numbers. Okay. So the Jaguars have a 57 % chance of making the playoffs with a win 19 % chance with a loss. That's a wild swing. The Chargers have a 91 % chance of making the playoffs with a win 58 % chance with a loss. This is the most consequential. It's not the best game. It is the most consequential game on Sunday. It's a playoff game. It is a playoff game. It's a pre-playoff game. And I think I like the Chargers. I know they're on the road. Jacksonville has at times looked good at home. Trevor Lawrence has not looked right recently. Nope.

1:02:13He's been sacked the fifth most in the NFL, but when he takes a sack, he takes like a very, very obvious sack. Like he, he sacks himself a lot. Uh, and then Travis Hunter being out seems like it's going to be, it's going to be a problem because during the games where the offense looks bad for the Jags, they can always just get the ball to him in space and he'll make something happen i know he's not the best receiver best rookie receiver but he's been good enough to the point where he's a weapon that you have to account for and him out i think he's out for the rest of the season yes lcl something like that it doesn't there's too many cls there's too many cls and i just stick to mcl acl yeah lcl what the fuck is and pcl i don't even know if i have an lcl no probably we probably don't yeah but yeah i i had a thought i was talking to chaps earlier about trevor lawrence and about how uh the relationship is gone with some of his old coaches okay urban meyer didn't like him yeah but urban meyer doesn't really like anybody that's facts uh doug peterson didn't really get along see eye to eye that well with trevor and now things are like a little bit dicey i think liam cohen is still in the honeymoon phase where he's like i can fix this guy i can make it happen we should have the conversation though is trevor lawrence a coach killer oh is he good enough to get a coach fired because of all the expectations around him yeah i think he might be he might urban meyer and he is our colleague but we could listen we could still say things he he i think he killed himself yeah unalived himself yeah yeah that's that's a fact i don't think that was trevor lawrence's doing that was that was some strange co-ed that was some fun shit that was some fun shit i have two pro chargers stats if you want them out there if you're looking to bet on this game the chargers uh run a lot of gap scheme their gap scheme heavy run game and the jaguars are last in the nfl in defending gap scheme runs so that might be a mismatch there that's from sports info solutions and then since 2019 teams after blowing a 14 plus point lead entering the fourth quarter which the the jaguars blew a 19-point lead going into the fourth quarter.

1:04:20So teams that have done that, 14-plus, blowing a fourth-quarter lead, are 5-13 straight up and 6-12 against the spread the next game. And they also, we've seen it four times this year, since week six this year, all four teams are 0-4 straight up in their next game. Yeah, the Giants had an 18-point fourth-quarter lead, and they lost the next game by 18 points. Yeah, so the letdown is a very deflating letdown of a loss for the Jaguars. I also think we might be getting into Harbaugh season. Could be. I think this is going to be a Harbaugh season game where he's just going to run the ball down. He was pumped up after that game last week.

1:04:59I think his quote, I'm paraphrasing, was you win some games with brilliant execution and pretty offense, but this game we just out-physicaled him. I feel like that gave Harbaugh some life. for he he now even though they're missing you know some of their offensive linemen i think he sees a formula to just beat the fuck out of an opponent yeah he talked about it in the halftime interview which is like we just got to keep being violent yeah something about that just pumps me up yeah time he does and i i don't see liam cohen matching that violence yeah there's not as much violence not not even really any violence no no okay afternoon we got some good ones boys seahawks say Rams.

1:05:39That's my crown jewel. That's your crown jewel. Yeah. Rams are plus three over under is 48 and a half. The Rams are wearing their midnight jerseys. Midnight mode. Midnight mode jerseys. Yeah. Check them out. Check them out. Hank. Tell us what you think. Is this in the hungry dog? Yeah, it is. I love the Seahawks. I love the Rams. The black unis. See, I don't, I don't love those on the Rams. They got like that. I like the helmets. What about the blue shoulders? Ugh, Hank. It looks like a Swedish uniform. Clean it up. There you go. Take a sip. Then let us know what you think. Do we find out what's happening to Devontae Adams?

1:06:23Deep dive. Devontae Adams did not practice, but he did do the walkthrough and Sean McVay feels like he's committed to the team he's going to play. That's right, yeah. McVay kind of put that out there. I remember he was like, yeah, I don't want to speak for Devontae, but yeah, he's going to play. Yeah, I feel good about it. He's an oblique, but didn't really practice, but should be in a game. I love the Seahawks in this game. Seahawks have been dominant. I know the Rams are great, too. They've been dominant in their own right. It's the matchup of one and two in DVOA this weekend. And I just think I'm buying heavy on the Seahawks.

1:06:59Yeah, I like Rams. The Seahawks have been awesome. Seahawks also haven't had a lot of game pressure. This game, you would guess this game will be close. Yeah. And Matthew Stafford's playing out of his mind good right now. I know the Seahawks defense is very, very good. Something about that 13 personnel, the Rams keep running with three guys that just all look exactly the same. I might just bet all three of them to score a touchdown just so that if a big, tall white guy is in the end zone, I just be like, yeah, I have that. That's probably him. I have that. statistically that has to be him you know what i am gonna do that yeah because i because it's happened a couple times where i've had higby and it hasn't been higby but it looks like higby i'm just gonna spray the board of rams so the uh white rams i i feel like i feel like the seahawks are a team that would counter what the rams are doing on offense their coach seems smart enough to truly understand like it's a this is what we this is why we watch the game guys because we've got offensive wonderkend Sean McVay against defensive wonderkend McDonald I'm more going my bet is strictly it has nothing to do with the Rams or the Seahawks overall because I think they're both very good teams I'm taking Matthew Stafford over Sam Darnold at home yeah that's fair I think it's fair that's my entire kind of handicap of it I'm taking the Seattle defensive line okay that's what I think has been a big difference maker for the Seahawks okay so let's see who do we who so i have to bet tyler higby i gotta bet terrence ferguson colby parkinson and davis allen shit that's a lot that's a lot i might you know what i might do that same thing with the seahawks running backs yeah that's smart get a mix in there get all three of them and and and just so we're clear they all do look exactly alike terrence ferguson white guy yep would not expect no but colby park parkinson you would expect he sounds colby yeah colby but they are all the same they've all scored touchdowns this year we're gonna we're sprinkle all the rams all the big white tight ends on the rams and just hope that every i'm gonna have to do like double touchdowns on all because like they're gonna one of the the big white guys in the rim is gonna score Yeah.

1:09:23At some point. Yeah. I might take all three Seattle running backs. Head to head. Head to head. Head to head. Who ends up with more units? And Cooper Cup. And Cooper Cup. He's getting, they might be doing something. They were asking him. Yeah. Tribute video possibly. He just said, I didn't die. So I don't think he wants one. That's the correct answer, by the way. Yeah. We do too many tribute videos. Yeah. Crazy Sam Darnold stat. Five years, first five years of his career, 21 and 35 record. last two years 21 and 5 so in the first five years in the last year and a half of football he has tied the amount of wins that he had in his first five years in football yeah he's been great he's been awesome do you find yourself rooting for or against Sam Darnold I always forget for Sam Darnold because that's also that's a situation where you're like rooting for Sam Darnold because you're also like see how stupid the Jets are right no So see how stupid Joe Douglas is.

1:10:24Yeah, blame the guys that used to be in Robert Salah. Okay. Okay. If you can get the right guys in. Because that's also coaching, Sam Darnold. Well, yeah, Adam Gase was the worst coach in the world. But they also had the decision of taking Zach Wilson over Sam Darnold. True, true, true. Hyperdrive, though. Hyperdrive wasn't sick. Yeah. It was bad. Yeah. Yeah, Big Cat, guess who said this for you? Oh, I like that. When talking about the Giants opening for their head coach, Jackson Dart, Malik Nabors, fuck yeah, would want that job. An offensive coach in the NFC. Said that? Said that. A current coach?

1:11:10A current offensive, no, offensive coach. Not head coach. Cliff Kingsbury? No, I was, I mean, we don't know who said it because it was anonymous. Oh, my money is on Kubiak. Got it. Clint Kubiak. He's going to be the name that's going to get, if the Seahawks offense continues to be great, he will be a head coach next year. Yes, I agree. Shout out office manager Brett. Again, don't have any idea if he actually said that, but I saw the quote and I was like, we're going to just attribute it to him. I thought it was Cliff for a second, but then I think it was a successful offensive coach this season and Cliff would not fall into that category.

1:11:46That would not be, that would not work. Okay. Okay, Niners, Cardinals, Cardinals plus three, Cardinals have some injuries. Marvin Harrison, he had an appendectomy? Yeah, he had appendicitis. Appendicitis. And then we also lost Zay Jones for the year. Yep. Achilles. And Brock Purdy might be back. So Shanahan said that he could have played last week, which is confusing to me. Because if he could have played last week. Why did he play? Why did he play? Yeah, why did he play? Soft benching? They had a soft benching. They said that they ran him through an aggressive practice on Wednesday. Yeah. With the goal of having him come back.

1:12:27I want to say that the Niners are going to win this game, but I don't know. I agree. I don't know. I agree. I think that the Cardinals are, they're a big-time bummer right now. They're a big-time bummer, but remember, they did have a couple games in a row, and Jacoby Brissett did okay, but maybe we just got fooled by Jacoby Brissett again. It happens. It happens. It happens almost every year. I had the Cardinals last week. I got big time fooled. I mean, he did over so fast. He has looked a lot better than Kyler Murray's look this season. That's not that's not a mistake. He's better right now. The question is, yeah.

1:12:56So he looked better against the Cowboys defense. I do. The Niners, as injured as they are, I do say the Niners are probably a little bit better than the Cowboys defensively. So, yeah, I lean Niners, but not really a game I want to with the crown jewels in the afternoon. I don't know if this is a game I want to bet. No, no. Well, I will. Right. But I don't want to. I don't want to. So I'm being forced to by my own brain. But yeah, I don't think it really matters that much this weekend who's starting. I think that Brock Purdy is definitely the better quarterback overall. But in this matchup, yeah, I'm fine.

1:13:28I'm fine. If you want to hold Brock out one more week, make sure – because I don't really trust that Brock is being completely honest about his foot. Yeah. I think that from the very start, he was like, it's not that bad. And Mac Jones has been playing well. And Mac Jones has been playing pretty good. Something about Mac Jones. Yep. Okay, Ravens at Browns. Browns plus 7.5 over under is 39.5. You can get a... Here are the following items that are more expensive than a ticket to the game on game time. A cheeseburger, stadium nachos, a beer and a hot dog. All cost more than getting into the game.

1:14:02Love that. So, not exactly a high-ticketed game with the Browns. They're just the Browns. What's the Browns' first half line? That's what we got to do. I say it every week. I might just bet that. I might just bet the Browns plus three and a half first half and know that they're going to lose the game because they will lose this. Speaking of the Browns, I saw a hypothetical trade. Kyler Murray for Shador. Think about it. I saw someone float out. Is Kyler Murray the heir apparent to Matthew Stafford? See, that's what I'm saying. I do think that Kyler Murray, if he finds himself, it's got to be the right coach it's got to be a good coach i'm not ready to completely i'm not shorting for the long term kyler brun he's already short enough right now yeah i'm i'm buying long-term stock at penny prices right now for him by the way r.i.p the penny r.i.p we minted our last penny yesterday what penny's dead yeah philadelphia philly philly killed the penny no more pennies how do they know there's they're not making any more pennies each penny enough It was costing four cents per penny.

1:15:12Holy shit. To make, and yeah. So we should have stopped that a while ago. Get out of here. So we're just not doing pennies? No more pennies. We got enough. But pennies still exist. Yeah. No one's going to show up and confiscate your pennies. Yeah, they don't take them away. But are banks still going to have pennies? Probably not. When was the last time you actually used a penny? Never. You can't even flip a coin with a penny. I mean, I have. Flip a coin with a penny. It's not a real flip of a coin. So what happens if you're getting changed and you need to use pennies and the place doesn't have pennies?

1:15:42Do they just have to round up? I think they either round up or down. Down? Yeah. I mean, when was the last time? If I got like a nickel or a penny, that's no different from having trash in my hand. I'm pretty much that way with all change, but. Yeah. Yeah. The last time I used a penny had to be on a scratch off. Like to scratch it. That's a good point. Not to buy it. I can't remember the last time I handed somebody a penny as part of a payment. Bitcoin, man. Bitcoin. That has nothing to do with this, but Bitcoin, man. Good point, Max. What were we talking about? The Browns and the Ravens. Yeah.

1:16:21The Ravens might be doing some sneaky stuff on defense. So the Ravens defense has, it looks like they've turned the corner. And that's fueled their comeback. and that's why everybody's saying the Ravens combined with their defense and their schedule, they look to be in a good position to win that division. Against the Vikings last week, the Vikings had eight false start penalties against the Ravens, and that's the most by home team in the last 16 seasons. Whoa. Kind of an outlier game for them. And then the Vikings offense, specifically Aaron Jones, said that they were doing little yells and movements at the line of scrimmage.

1:17:03Oh, they're cheating. Trying to get them to, well, they didn't call it. But is John Harbaugh up to his old tricks? Yeah. Gray area. Found something. Hank, do you have any animosity still towards John Harbaugh for either bending the rules or complaining about when you bent the rules? No. I mean, he's just a bit of a loser, but that's all right. Okay. Why did you say that to his face when we saw him? Is it kind of like the windmill? You talk all this shit on the podcast, then you see something face-to-face. I don't like to talk shit about people on this podcast. You guys just force me into situations similar to Big Dom.

1:17:36Yeah, but what about the windmill? You talk shit about the windmill, and then you just didn't say anything to its face. We were even close to windmill. The windmills are so big that we were like thousands of yards away. Well, no, you were staring eye-to-eye with the windmill. And what about John Harbaugh? I like John Harbaugh. He's a good guest on this show. But a bit of a loser is what you said. I mean, that's just statistically correct. He's won one Super Bowl. he's been coaching for how many seasons you beat his brother he's a bit of a winner too oh there it is bit of a winner tiny bit of a winner tiny bit of a loser they haven't made the Super Bowl with Lamar Jackson how many times is that wrong to say no that's not wrong to say we might not get Lamar he's banged up didn't practice on Wednesday it could be Tyler Huntley playing against week 10 rookie of the week nominee dylan gabriel yeah so huge matchup also here's something crazy the ravens have lost three out of the last four in cleveland that is crazy i think that these games should count towards lamar's playoff stats every game is a playoff game for the ravens yeah that's true you're right in theory it's like they can't drop they can't lose yeah you're absolutely right this is a weird afternoon game it's it's kind of just put into this is screamed one o 'clock yeah How many Browns fans are going to show up for the tailgate thinking that the game kicks off at 1?

1:19:02A lot. I'd say probably a couple thousand. Yes, absolutely. This might be the drunkest fan base of the week. Like Packers-Giants should be at 325. Bucks-Bills should be at 325. Yeah. There's going to be dudes in the Muni lot at 4 a.m. anticipating a 1 p.m. kickoff. And then finding out they got three extra hours to drink. It's going to be a problem. Yeah. Okay, last afternoon game. Chiefs at Broncos. Broncos are plus three and a half over under is 43 and a half. I love the Chiefs. Love the Chiefs. I love the Chiefs. Eddie Reed off a bye, 22 and four in the regular season. I don't, I'm not going to say the Broncos are frauds yet, but it is a little something, something sniffing around where it's like they're eight and two and they're struggling with a lot of teams.

1:19:53And yeah, I think the Chiefs are going to – I think the line says everything here. The Chiefs are 5-4. The Broncos are 8-2. The Broncos are 3.5-point underdogs at home. Yeah. That doesn't make any sense. Yeah. I mean, every game is now, much like the Ravens, a must-win for the Chiefs. This is probably their most important game of the season. Mm-hmm. Because if they lose, per the athletic, their odds of winning the AFC West, 7%. Ooh. That's of winning the division. I actually, here's what I actually kind of like, throwing this out there. I think the Chiefs are going to beat the Broncos. I think you bet the Broncos to win the AFC West after they lose to the Chiefs.

1:20:35Okay. Because they actually have not that tough of a schedule down the stretch. They do play the Chiefs again. Can you pull up the Broncos' schedule? So they're at eight wins right now. So if they lose to the Chiefs, they'll be eight and three. everyone will overreact and be like, oh, well, the Chiefs are going to win the AFC West now. They play the Commanders, Raiders, Packers, Jaguars in their next four. Like, if you want to say that they can win the Commanders, Raiders, Jaguars game, they got to win one of the Packers, Chiefs, Chargers games to get to 12 wins. Does 12 wins do it? Yeah. So I think that's the move.

1:21:16You wait for the Chiefs to pound them. You wait for everyone to overreact. Then you jump on the Broncos to win the AFC West. What's the Chargers record right now? Chargers 7-3. 7-3, and they started off on that heater against the division. Yeah, with 3-0, yeah. Yeah, so I... Yeah, the Chargers could obviously win the division as well. I understand the logic behind it. If it's strictly between the Broncos and the Chiefs, that wouldn't be a bad idea. Yeah, no, the Chargers could definitely get in there. The Chargers kind of muck it up a little bit. This is... Bo Nix hears the critics sometimes, but only when they say it to his face.

1:21:47Mm-hmm. Hank. Bo Nix wants to hear he only takes the criticism seriously if you're man enough to say it right to him well I agree with that yeah he deleted his social media I agree with that too I saw an interview Christian Bale had an interview long ago but it made perfect sense especially for anyone in the public eye it's actually helped me personally if someone says something about you and they don't have your phone number to tell you face to face then they don't know you well enough to say something about you. It's true. If they can't say it to you on the phone or face-to-face, that means they don't know you, and so whatever they're saying is just ill-informed.

1:22:30That might be what Bo Nix is going for. I'm looking at some stats right now. This stat's been making the rounds. The comparison of Mahomes and Bo Nix since Bo got into the league. Mahomes, 6 ,277 passing yards. Bo Nix, 5 ,901 passing yards. Mahomes, 43 pass touchdowns. Bo Nix, 47 pass touchdowns. Mahomes, 16 picks. Bo, 20 picks. Mahomes, 592 rush yards. Bo Nix, 635 rush yards. Mahomes, 6 rushing touchdowns. Bo Nix, 7 rushing touchdowns. Are they the same guy? No. I'm going to say no. I'm going to say I'm going to agree with you and say no about that one. Yeah, I'm going to say no. Bo Nix, at times, looks incredible.

1:23:13and then at other times does look like Tim Tebow. Well, I guess at times he looks like Tim Tebow. At other times he looks like Tim Tebow. Yes. That makes sense. It does make sense. If you're a Broncos fan, you get it. Yeah, you get it. And it makes perfect sense. But yeah, I like... I think this is going to be Chiefs. All Chiefs. I think this is Chiefs. I agree. This is a nuke. Nuke Chiefs. Nuke Chiefs. Oh, yeah. Altitude? Not worried about it. The Chiefs don't lose these games. This is... Are you doing a reverse? No. But I thought you have to be worried about Mahomes. Are you forgetting to be...

1:23:52I am worried about Mahomes. I don't think he's worried about Mahomes anymore. I am worried about... What do you mean? Okay. This is like the classic game where it's like, oh, the Chiefs might lose this game. No. I agree. All right, last game. Sunday Night Football. Another crown jewel. That's me putting respect on Mahomes' name. I like that. Lions and Eagles. Eagles are minus 2.5. Over-under is 46.5. Oh. You like the Lions? Love the Lions. You love the Lions. Everyone loves the Lions. I like the Eagles. Everyone loved the Eagles on Monday. That's not true. Everyone loved the Packers, too. Did you know that Chris Broussard said this is a double must win?

1:24:38Chris Broussard? Yeah, Broussard. He said it's a double must win. The Lions need a signature win, and Philadelphia needs a win to keep A.J. Brown happy. I completely disagree with both. The win means nothing to A.J. Brown. He literally said that this week. Also, signature wins do not—it's not the BCS. None of that fucking matters. A.J. Brown has been on the record. A win doesn't help A.J. Brown. Being unhappy after wins, even when he scores. He literally said, I don't care about wins or losses when the offense looks like it does. It's actually so AJ Brown had a pretty good he had a media availability.

1:25:11So the week is gone. The Eagles win Monday football. The AJ Brown goes on plays some video games and tells everyone who has been fantasy to drop him because he ain't doing shit. And then he talked to the media and he said it's not about Jalen hurts. It's but the offense is kind of stuck in mud. he shouldn't do this as much of a distraction he is but everything he said was kind of right like the Eagles are winning but the offense does not look good that's facts and people should drop me from fans yeah he has not had a great season so far you shouldn't say any of this shit I'm okay with it yeah listen it was said on Twitch stream it was a heated gaming moment mmhmm they happen yeah they happen how are you feeling Max about AJ Brown about everything Must win.

1:26:04Sure, must win. No, you don't mean that. All right, so that's not a must win. No, it's not a must win for you. I mean, every single week the Eagles play another top team in the NFL, and it's a must win. Every week. We have the hardest fucking schedule of all time. Yep. And here we go again. It's going to be another must win. We'll probably win again, and everyone will still say the Eagles suck. It's just the same thing over and over week after week, and that's just the way it is. Yeah, I actually agree with that. I think the Lions are very good. Obviously, the Lions secondary is getting back to health.

1:26:35The Lions outdoors are different than the Lions at home. This feels like maybe this could very well be the NFC Championship preview. And I do respect Dan Campbell for standing on the table. Remember, Dan Campbell was the only one of the teams that were playing the Eagles this year that voted to keep the tush push. He had a great quote. Yeah, he said, I'm a purist. You take something out of the game. Then we're taking the next thing out of the game. And pretty soon we don't have pads anymore. Then pretty soon you're only playing 30 minutes. They've got a niche. They found something. They're good at it.

1:27:08It's for everybody else to stop. That's a man. That's a man. We're going to take pads away. That was such a funny way to play 30 minutes. Yep. I know. I, I, I do like the lines this week. No disrespect to max. I just think, uh, no, I want everyone. Everybody likes them. I'm actually mad that Big Cat doesn't like the Lions. There's probably a little bias. Well, I also would like you to finish the Alliance. This is a big Alliance moment. I also think the Eagles offense, I get frustrated watching it for you. It can't be fun watching that because in theory, you have the best running back. You've got a Super Bowl champion quarterback, Super Bowl MVP quarterback.

1:27:50You've got two incredible wide receivers. You've got a great tight end, and you have the best offensive line in football. The best offensive line in football is very banged up right now. Yeah. Three starters are down. Oh, you got three down now? Yes. Three are limited. Yeah, Juergen's still out. That's a big test is if Lane plays. If Lane plays, I will not be as confident because the Lions have a good pass rush and we need our offensive line to be sturdy. I don't know. I still feel good. Like, this is just – the Eagles are just kind of that new team in the NFL that they're so good and they win every week, but everyone loves to hate them.

1:28:37And then it's just inevitable that we just keep winning football games. Yeah, I mean, but the criticisms of Kevin Petullo and the offense are fair. Yeah, and we're still 7-2. Yep. Like, if the season's not over, teams get better throughout the season, offenses can get better. if they can figure it out, good luck. The defense last week looked insane. Yeah. It looked insane with our defensive lineback. And now you have Dan Campbell calling plays. Do you think there's a chance Nick Sirianni should start calling plays? Pulling a Dan Campbell? No, not yet. I think Dan Campbell was also very smart about that.

1:29:16Yeah. He was very smart. He's like, yeah, you know, I think maybe this week. Who are we playing again? Oh, the commander. Yeah. You know what? I'll give Blake on a shot this week. We'll see if that looks a little bit better. You're right. Very smart move by him. Oh, also, with the Broncos, jumping back one game. Yep. Do they ever play games on the road? It doesn't feel that way. Or do they only play home games? Did the Broncos get the first schedule where they get every game at home? Well, it was the combo when they played the Eagles and then played overseas in back-to-back weeks. I feel like that was just all their road games for the year.

1:29:49Probably, yeah. They probably take up a little bit at the end of the season, but I think it's four out of five at home. Yeah, it does feel like we've watched a lot of it. I love watching. There's something about Mile High. You get a little romantic about football. There's something about it. Although, to Hank's point, win. I'm more so. I'm looking at the Lions schedule. The Lions' three losses that they have. The Eagles have beat every single team. Okay, we were talking about getting grown-ups about Mile High. That's why I try to cut myself off. You literally turned your mic on just to go, ugh.

1:30:21Well, but then, because I was going to say something, I was like, I shouldn't say something. Say it. I mean, lost to the Packers, Eagles beat them. Got smoked by the Chiefs, Eagles beat them. Lost to the Vikings, Eagles beat them. And they lost to the Vikings at home. Like, it's a Packer. Lions suck fest because they score a lot of points against shitty fucking teams. There you go. Get the heat up. Lions, finish the job, Max. Yeah, this is just what the Lions do every fucking year. They score a lot of points against shitty fucking teams, and everyone thinks that they're the best. Whatever. If the Eagles win on Sunday night, I think we'll put the Philadelphia Beagles shirts back on stale because those are fun shirts.

1:31:01They looked ridiculous. They were cool dogs. They were very cool dogs. But you're right. The Broncos don't play on the road. They don't play on the road, and they get the altitude. Okay, let's do our fantasy minute. Let's do our picks. Let's do our picks first. So we have the touchdown parlay. We won last week. Shout out to everyone who rode with us. It was like 14 to 1. Great job, boys. Football season just got even better. Barstool is bringing you the game of the week every single week through the end of the regular season. Here's the deal. Every Friday we'll announce a game of the week from the Sunday slate of games.

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1:32:17January 5th at 7 p.m. Eastern. Bonus bets are non-withdrawable and expire in seven days. See official rules and free method of entry at DraftKings.com slash promos. Sponsored by Crown Gaming Inc. What are we doing? Let's win. I would like Rashear Rice. Okay. Okay. PFT? I think that's a very good pick, Hank. For mine, I am going to take... I'll take the Sunday night game if you want. Okay. All right. Who do you got Sunday night? AJ Brown. Oh, okay. I like that. We have to, right? I like that. We have to. Oh, yeah. There's one other one where we could if we really wanted to get nuts. Jerichoff? No.

1:32:56No. No. Who? Amonra. Oh. Yeah. I don't want to do that again. Okay. I think we got to do AJ Brown. I like that. Yeah, AJ Brown's good. I actually agree. I'm going to go. You know what? I'll go JSN. Okay. He's plus 135. I like this. I like that a lot. Let's put this all together. let's get 11 1100 okay so we won it last week let's win it again for the people love this we're up on the year yeah we are up on the year ride with us we will be what we will be streaming the afternoon and night game so we'll be riding with the people let's do jerry's fantasy minute fantasy fuck boys i'm i don't know what happened yesterday but jerry texted pft and i said give me memes number and said i didn't want it before because of his negative attitude i'm like okay but he sent this to you directly memes yeah what what else did he say to you some stuff about you oh okay what else don't worry about any uh okay instagram links no no instagram links okay all right cool did you already watch this memes i did that's illegal what do you mean we're supposed to watch it all together.

1:34:12I didn't know the rules. Okay, that's fine. That's a lie. Yeah, he's a lie. Start the music, man. Start the music. I got one minute. Hey, what's up? Welcome to Fantasy Fuck Boys. Get my sweat on. Very important. You gotta work out once a day. Get a sweat on. This week, we're gonna sit people who come to work at the most contagious part of their sickness, right at the beginning, especially if you work in a small confines like a podcasting studio. Give it to everybody. Hank, you like the herpes monkeys that escaped off the truck. We're going to sit. Travel bans. It's over. They voted. Anybody can come to this country.

1:34:47Come on. Come to Plymouth Rock, where Hank is from. It's over. We're going to sit. People who use S when they say Illinois. Come on, Zach. I have nothing to do with Illinois. I know it's Illinois. No S there, dude. We're going to sit the entire staff at PMT because Hank gave them monkey pox. Bye-bye. We're going to start Joe Flacco. Rare double revenge game. Baltimore and Joe Burrows in the building. And start the Green Bay defense. I did it. Call 1-800-VACCINATION. Hank, you fall. Oh, it's Hank's coughing right now. As we speak, yeah. The double revenge game. Yeah, Joe Flacco against the Steelers.

1:35:25Because it was a Raven. He played college football. No, because the Ravens hated the Steelers, I think. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. Yeah, I think that travels with you. I think if you're a raven, for the most part, you will continue to hate the Steelers. Yeah, I'd agree. Unless you're... Yeah. I'd agree. What are you guys laughing about in there? No, nothing. What? What? So funny. What's so funny? Share with the class. We just said Pat's dinner. It looks like a good dinner. What was it? It was just two pieces of pizza, garlic knots, and M &M's. That's not enough, Zach. It's a good spread, though. Yeah, that is a good spread.

1:36:04He hit a lot of categories. Okay. Picks. And then we'll get to our interview with Joel Klatt. Who's up first? And what are the records? We don't know? PFT's up first. Okay. Okay. Big Cat has 13 points. Max is 11. I have 10. Memes and Zach have 9. PFT has 8. I'm going to go Ravens, Browns, under. 39.5. Okay. I am going to go with the Kansas City Chiefs minus three and a half. You know what I mean? Come on. We both like it. Kansas City Chiefs minus three and a half. Give me the Spunder, 47 and a half. The Spunder? Madrunder? I love that. The Madrunder. Commander's Dolphins under 47 and a half. I wish I could bet the fucking Chiefs.

1:37:01I'll go Bucks plus 6 I'm going to go Jags plus 3 I would like to go Falcons minus 3.5 And? And I would also like to go Under 48.5 in the Seahawks Rams game Okay I will go under 44.5 in Chiefs Broncos I will go over Packers Giants 42.5 I don't know, man. I like that pick memes. That was my pick. Fuck. I will take the motherfucking.

1:37:42Motherfucking. Can I get Browns plus seven and a half? Yeah, that's what it is right now. I like that, too. I was debating that one. I'll take that. Browns plus seven and a half. Pray Lamar. Absolutely. Pray Lamar doesn't play. Browns plus seven and a half. Did anyone take the Steelers Bengals over? I don't think so. I'm just going to do it. 49 and a half. All right. Bengals overs. I'm going to take the New York football giants plus seven. Okay. Against the Packers. Jameis. Jameis. Seven. It's a lot of points. Jameis. Jameis. Okay. Let's get to our interview. We've got Joel Klatt in studio, and then we'll finish up with Firefest.

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1:40:22I lose sunglasses all the time. Not a worry with Shady Rays. Check them out today. 35 % off for holiday gifts at Shady Rays. ShadyRays.com, promo code PMT. And now here's Joel Klatt. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest. It is Joel Klatt. you can listen to him on the Joel Klatt show which is a great college football show you also can hear him every single Saturday big noon kickoff with Gus Johnson Joel this is actually serendipity because we had I had one of our fans tweet us and be like can you guys please get Joel Klatt on last night he's going to be in town it's already planned so this is a guest that I think a lot of people wanted we're excited to have you here But I have a very important question to ask you to start.

1:41:14Okay. Did you think we were maybe about to lose Gus Johnson at the Indiana Penn State game? I did see there was – I can't remember who tweeted it, but I saw one of the tweets right after. It was like, Indiana broke Gus Johnson. And I will tell you, I've worked with him for 11 years, and I've never heard him crack. Yeah. I knew he was struggling a little bit with a cold last week, and then I didn't hear it all game. and he has given some big calls because it's a great game. And then when that play happened, there was two thoughts. One, I was like, there's no way he's in bounds. And two, I was like, oh, he cracked right there.

1:41:52Yeah. I thought we had lost him for a second. I thought we lost him for a second. Yeah, I was like, Joel's going to have to finish this broadcast. We don't have Gus Johnson anymore. He is so – here's what I love about working with Gus is that – well, we all watch and consume sports all the time, guys. And as you know, and this is not a knock against all these other guys, but everybody has like a prepared call, you know, and ready to go. And that's great. And it can be iconic. There's no doubt. Gus reacts with pure emotion in the moment, just like you're sitting on the couch with it. And I think that's what resonates.

1:42:28Yeah. And that's what you heard on Saturday. And we say this because we're good friends with Joe Buck, and we've had a lot of broadcasters on. Your guys' camaraderie and relationship comes through on the broadcast, and I think that's such an underrated part of watching a game where the two guys that are calling the game are friends and they have rapport. It comes across. It makes it so much better. Well, thank you. First of all, that's nice of you to say, and that's something that we effort. We talk about more so than the content. We talk about the sound. And the rhythm of the broadcast. And he actually taught me that.

1:43:03He's, you know, he's obviously so experienced and he's so good at what he does. And I remember when I first started working with him, he used to talk to me and he was like, hey, listen, man, we're just in the double dutch right now. Don't trip the rope. He's like, because the fan just wants the rhythm and they like it when they know who's speaking. So our voices are different and our cadence is correct. But just don't trip the rope. And I think that that was something that he taught me early on when I started working with him. And it's something that I've held on to ever since. And in the best ways, I focus on and he focuses on the rhythm of the broadcast in those moments.

1:43:41And I think that it works. It does. It's a lot of fun to listen to. I did think that maybe he passed away, though. Yeah, that was... After that, the scream he let out. In that moment, I think you did a good job of letting him breathe afterwards. You weren't checking on him like, are you okay, partner? yeah uh how does that work because you talk about like the double dutch you don't want to step over the other guy's lines i think in podcasts it's one thing because half of our job is like just yelling at each other sure uh but when you're doing it in the booth and the game's going on it's always nice to hear a booth like yours that lets the other person finish there's a space the other person begins do you guys is that just the rhythm that you've established over the years or is there actually like physical touching like i'm i'm gonna touch you while i'm talking yeah hands off you go um uh very little like communication between us so it's all a rhythm that is just unspoken and and i think it comes with and we focus on this by the way with our entire crew i'll give uh our producer and director a big shout out as well chuck mcdonald's our producer rich dewey is our director and and the four of us along with jenny so the five of us on the sideline we understand that each one of us has a role for a certain moment within the game where the game is ours you know we know when it's gus's time and everybody in that team knows all right it's gus's time and he's going to go to 10 and and that's the moment everyone knows when it's like all right it's time for joel to set up what's going on what's what's just happened you know it's my time in the game we know when it's the producer's time he's backed up on breaks we got to get some sales items in and we're going to lay out a little bit more so that he can work we know when the emotion in the stadium is is so great that any words we say are going to ruin it that's the director's time to take shots and cut around and bring the fan at home into the stadium and then we know when it's time to get a story and and further the story on the field and go down to jenny so i i think it's it's legitimately as nerdy as this sound it's it's understanding your role, just like any team.

1:45:46There's a book that I love. And again, I know this sounds nerdy, but there's this incredible leadership book called Good to Great by Jim Collins. And one of the premises in the book is that in any business or in any group, you've got to have the right people in the right seats on the bus in order for it to succeed. And that's how I view our crew. Like we are all in unique seats and we all understand when each of us need to take the forefront of the broadcast yeah it works i i love it i also listen to your podcast uh i don't know if you have a name for your listeners is there like a fan a fan base that i'm a part of that i'm not i don't that's a that's that's brats i don't know that would be interesting yeah but i i do listen to the show you've been telling me that we're entering the golden age of college football for like the last three or four years yes are we are we still in the golden age has it are we about to enter it when it when it are we in it right now i think we're in it i think that we really are i do i don't i think college football has never been better okay i think we're gonna get to it once we kind of get a little bit more adjusted in the nil world totally agree yeah and i'm not saying it's perfect yeah but it's never been better and that's why i say that we're about to enter this incredible era of college football is because it's really messy and yet the product is better than we've ever had it before and there's more teams that are involved at the top end of the sport than ever before more fan bases that are involved and i mean look at texas tech and indiana yeah you know vanderbilt vanderbilt 10 years ago if you just said like yeah these teams are going to be you know in the top six and competing for national title you would have thought you're crazy yeah it was alabama clemson and georgia And that's it.

1:47:26And maybe Ohio State. Yeah. And to that point, I was explaining to someone the other day about the college coaches and the buyouts and all this stuff. And I agree with a lot of what you're saying. The NIL stuff, once it kind of stabilizes, I think we'll really be in the golden age. But in Indiana, it's a perfect example. Ten years ago, Kurt Signetti is gone to Penn State instantly. A hundred percent. It's not even a question. He's out. A hundred percent. But now it's a new world where why can't he win in Indiana? That's right. Why can't Clark Lee stay at Vanderbilt? Like he can. That's right. Lane Kiffin might stay at Ole Miss.

1:47:58He should. He might. I've been told that basically they've told him write a number down. Yeah. And LSU has told him the same thing. And I think he wants Florida. Yeah. But they're hemming and hawing. So that's the domino that's going to fall. But this conversation is so fascinating because we've seen this. Dan Lanning turned down Alabama to stay at Oregon. Right. That's great for the sport. I think Joey McGuire's at his dream job it's Texas Tech right that's great for the sport um and it's going to put these open jobs in a real bind I think Penn State's in a bind right now I think Auburn's in a bind right now it's like who are you going to hire yeah um if you're a Penn State who would you who would you be looking at right now that's a great question so thank you it really is thank you it really is because the SEC openings are so obviously it's like well we're going to try to get lane right right and and penn state it's not as obvious i think what happened at penn state is that they felt like they could get kurt signetti and so they made the move and then immediately indiana just is like boom 11.6 per year and it's like whoa yeah and and i the reason i feel that way is that i i don't think penn state was going to go with the search firm and then now they have a search firm so it's like there's now two different strategies that have been played out at Penn State.

1:49:23Okay, so I'm dancing around your question. Who would I target or do I think they're going to target? I guess who would you target and then who do you think they're – we can do both. Okay, so if it was me, I would call Brian Kelly, although that's not very popular. I would call Pat Fitzgerald, although there's whatever you want to call it. I think Pat Fitzgerald is – he is going to get hired by a big school, and I think that he should. Yeah, and he should. But I'm firmly – he's one of the best college football coaches I've ever been around. It's a shame that he's not in right now. I think he's going to get in in this cycle, and whoever gets him is going to be really lucky.

1:50:00I'll throw out another name that I think is fascinating is Jim Mora at UConn. He's doing a hell of a job. And if you actually look at what he did at UCLA and what UCLA is historically, it's like, okay, that guy can coach, and he's doing a heck of a job at UConn. They just beat Duke last week. And then the last name I would throw out there, and everyone in Ohio wants to hit me over the head when I say this, but Brian Hartline. I would call Brian Hartline. Can I give you one more name? Yeah. And it probably wouldn't happen because I think, unfortunately, Penn State's in a weird spot where they have to hire someone that everyone immediately is like, wow, that's great.

1:50:36Fran Brown has a down year right now with Syracuse, but that guy can recruit the hell out of football. And he knows the area. He's from New Jersey. He coached at Temple. Like that's a guy, it would probably not be popular, but I bet you with Penn State's resources, he would make them a winner. Here's what's fascinating to me is I get in these conversations. I was just on with Coward this week, and he's talking about like, you got to have a tried and true winner and a guy that's been a head coach before. And I'm like, timeout. And unfortunately, I didn't think of this because I'm not like quick enough.

1:51:08But afterwards, I was like, wait, wait, wait. The three coaches who have won national championships in college football are Kirby Smart, Dabo Sweeney, and Ryan Day. None of them had head coaching experience before they got the job where they ultimately won a national championship. You would put Dan Lanning in the elite category. You would put Lincoln Riley in the elite category. There are so many guys that didn't have head coaching experience before they got a job where they were ultimately an excellent head coach. Yeah, and not only that, winning the press conference does nothing. No, it doesn't.

1:51:41Like, more schools should wake up, especially this year, if you look around the landscape. We talked about Cignetti, Clark Lee, all that stuff. But one of the best teams in the country is Texas A &M. And what they do, they won the press conference with Jimbo Fisher, and then they got a guy, Mike Elko, whoever's like, oh, what? Dude? Okay. He's an unbelievable coach. Not only that, he's a great fit at Texas A &M. Yeah. And understands it, and they've had a great year. I totally agree with you. And for Penn State, they need a great fit. And the Hartline thing for me, Brian Hartline will be a head coach at some point, somewhere, I don't know where, and he's going to succeed because he recruits incredibly well.

1:52:22He's very detail-oriented. And his whole career, he's had more of an eye towards the CEO position rather than the play caller position. So, yes, he's calling plays now at Ohio State, but in the back of his mind, he's always built himself and tried to ready himself to be a head coach. Because now more than ever, I don't really care if you can call plays. It's so much bigger than that, guys. Because of NIL, like you've mentioned, because of the transfer portal, now you have a GM. You've got to build a roster every single year. You've got this revenue share that you've got to divide amongst the players.

1:52:55You've got to talk with their agents. It's really not about whether you can call defense or offense. It's can you hire a great staff and then manage all of those things within your organization. Yeah. So who are they going to hire? Because that was who they should look at. But who do you think it's going to end up being? I think it's going to be one of those guys. Okay. Okay. I do think it's going to be one of those guys. And it's, I mean, it's weird that Penn State is not the premier job in a carousel because this is, you know, LSU and Florida. So I caught a bunch of flack for saying I think LSU is a top three job in college football.

1:53:33I agree. Let's see. Top three. I think it's a better job than Alabama I would say I totally agree with that and it's not a slight Alabama and we've said this on this podcast and we've had people come on and explain it but LSU has the unique thing it's actually probably the only two states Ohio State and Louisiana where kids are born in that state and that's all they want to do is play for that school and that right there gives you a leg up there's also more resources at LSU than there are at Alabama. They've got a couple of boosters that are just, how do you call it? They're just a little bit more in the shadows than other schools.

1:54:14Like Texas Tech, this guy at Texas Tech, he's very much at the forefront. Oh, yeah. Names on the field. And it's like, I'm the guy doing this. There is a guy at LSU that is wealthier than the Texas Tech donor that is behind everything going on at LSU. They've got massive resources. Are you talking about Todd Graves? The Raisin Cane. Yeah, he's a friend of ours. Yeah, he's the man. He's incredible and committed to that place, and he's among others as well. Right. So, like, Bama doesn't have that, guys. They don't. They have the history, but it's also – And it's just the in-state recruit. Like, if you're taking the Florida job, you're competing against Florida State, you're competing against Miami.

1:54:55And, obviously, recruiting is so different now that it's not – you pull talent from everywhere. But Louisiana, kids in Louisiana play for LSU. There's an Ohio play for Ohio State. There are four schools. five schools that can literally open up their back doors and within 20 square miles have a top five recruiting class it's miami texas a &m texas lsu and usc yeah i don't think there's another one maybe georgia yeah is in there as well but i think you've got to go a little bit further but when you're talking about recruiting base like those schools have a base right that they can you know pull from to get as good a talent as anybody do you think that brian kelly is going to get hired given that he was just fired for cause at lsu on monday man after he he was fired twice i feel bad for the guy now i didn't think that was possible what a mess i know yeah that is and that's the only by the way that's what you just asked is the only reason that that job is not attractive you got the governor is because it's it's a disaster it's like well who's in charge yeah who's my boss you direct report to the governor of the state that's that's what you have to look at i mean that's the reality if you're taking that job and just by hearing him give a press conference i know nothing about the man's politics i don't either anything that he's done in the state i just know that that is a guy that is going to be a problem for a head coach um you never want to work for someone that is passionate about what you do but knows very little about it yeah yeah but they don't know that they know very little no no they think they know a lot yeah but they don't uh so i i don't know how attractive i think in the overarching conversation, LSU is a great job.

1:56:39This year, I don't know because of all of that mess behind the scenes. I do kind of like Governor Run the damn ball though. That's what you're dealing with from the governor. There's something charming about that. A deep south kind of way. I do think that LSU is going to be a great job. Who do you think is going to get it? Do you guys think Lane's going to take that job? I don't think Lane's going to take that job. I think he's going to stay. I think he's going to stay at Ole Miss. I do too. If you had asked me last week, I would have said, no, no, no. He's definitely going to leave. I'm leaning that direction.

1:57:13Yeah. Because, I mean, think about what he has. You can win there. He's proven that. And he also has, if he goes and takes a Florida job, the LSU job, he has to win right away. He's built up the capital at Ole Miss. He's got a really good thing going. And they're at places as a program that they've never been before. And he's the reason for it. So if they have a down year, no one's going to be like, hey, get rid of Lane. It's a great point. Yeah. I also, let me make an analogy to Colorado, which is where I played, and Deion. Like Colorado needed Deion Sanders badly. Like they needed air to breathe.

1:57:50But I would make the argument Deion needed a place like Colorado because it wasn't a place that was going to be heavy-handed with tradition or you can't do this or that. it's just like hey man you've got the keys to the entire castle do it how you want to do it this is your program and in some ways lane has that at ole miss and he wouldn't have that at other places you know there would be you know boosters or people around saying like well we don't do it that way and lane's like uh i do yeah sorry right and and at ole miss it's his program right and i think if you sat back and if you're lane and you you valued that then then you would stay that's why i'm leaning that direction i think ole miss is good for lane as much as lane is good for ole miss absolutely do you have a heisman vote i do uh who'd you vote for last year um oh gosh the the winner okay good travis hunter yes yes travis hunter all right good good i'm sorry i just totally blanked on no we we bet on travis hunter in august and our listeners got very did you really yeah because then we talked about it every single week non-stop how good guys That was my one preseason prop bet that I gave on my pod.

1:59:03I was like, guys, I didn't give any other product. I said 60 to 1, Travis Hunter is an incredible bet right there and a value. Yeah, nice work. And it hit. And then I got to vote for it. Is that bad? No, you say it. I mean, as long as you don't bet it. No, I don't. We don't have eyes on votes. I've never bet. How about that? Good for you. I've never bet a dollar on sports. They're good for you. So who do you? I'll bet Greg Olson that I'll beat him on the damn gauntlet. Damn gauntlet. Who do you? I can't believe he got to do it twice. Sorry. It was crazy he got to do it twice, but he's so good looking.

1:59:34And, you know, he just kind of wowed us. He charmed you. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's fair. So who – give me your three this year that you're looking at. My list is in no particular order. Mendoza, Julian Sayan, I really like Ty Simpson, and I like Marcel Reed. No Jeremiah Love? I was just going to say the guy that is, like, gaining steam is Jeremiah Love. I agree with that, maybe because we bet that in August. Maybe. No, I don't think he has enough games left because he doesn't play a championship. The problem is not only it's the number of games, but it's the opponents. Right. Because he doesn't have the opponents.

2:00:08Reed's going to get to play Texas. Everyone's going to watch that. Sayan and Mendoza are going to play each other. Simpson and Reed may play in the SEC championship game. So they've got these marquee moments and matchups. I've always thought you needed stages to win, like Mendoza last week. Yes. That was a stage. Yes. And greatness was required, and he delivered greatness. That was incredible. Yeah, he's unflappable. It's crazy watching him. You know what he reminds me of is Kirk Cousins. Oh, okay. When I sit and just talk with him. I've heard people throw out the, and it's a bold one, but throwing out Tom Brady.

2:00:41No, no. I know. Listen, I wasn't. I'm saying other people have thrown it out, and then I watch him. I'm like, okay, I can see the way he moves in the pocket, the way he's decisive, accurate, and unflappable. You've got to do a lot more to beat Tom Brady. But I love his bounce back. Yeah. Because he's thrown some big interceptions and big moments, like the pick six against Oregon. Yeah. If you guys don't know, he throws a pick six against Oregon late in that game, and Oregon ties the game. Comes out next drive, drives right down the field, throws a touchdown pass. He throws that pick. It allows Penn State to go up deep into that game into the fourth quarter.

2:01:19Comes back, drives down the field. So I love that aspect, and that does remind me of Brady. I'm talking about when I sit with him in those production meetings. He said three words, and I was like, oh, my gosh, this is Kirk Cousins. Do you think – And I don't mean that in a bad way. Yeah, yeah, no, no. Kirk Cousins had an incredible career. I mean that in the best possible way. Yeah, probably the nicest guy in the world. Yeah. Very nice. Do you think Julian's saying, like, so we've been very high on Ohio State. We were, I think, the first to say that this year's team was better than last year's team.

2:01:49I think we said it in September. We might have been doing it as a bit, but it turned out to be true. That happens to us sometimes. It's good when a bit turns out. Yeah, it's great. But Julian's saying, the one thing you could say about Ohio State this year, they have been so dominant. What happens when they're in that type of game, that situation where it's tight, late, and Mendoza's proven it. Do you have any reservations about Ohio State in those type of moments? Because they're going to be in those games in the playoffs. I only have one reservation about Ohio State, and I don't know how great they are running the football.

2:02:19Yeah. that's where they're not better than last year yeah that's right because those two backs were tremendous last year Henderson and Judkins they had a a moment of adversity when Penn State gets a fumble recovery right before half and scores and so they have to go in at halftime and it's 17-14 and that third quarter offensively was Carnell Tate Jeremiah Smith and Julian San And that showed me a lot because it's like, okay, when you're backed into a corner, you're going to show me your actual blueprint. You're going to show me exactly who you are. And they came out and just threw haymakers. And I'm like, that's the best passing game in America.

2:03:01He's so impressive with how quick his mind works and then his release and then his accuracy, guys. It's off the charts, his accuracy. So normally a guy that throws for 80 % is going to throw like 80 % of his passes at the line of scrimmage. Right. If you look at average yards of air yards per pass, he's in the top five in terms of throwing the football, you know, down the field in college football. So to be at that percentage is wild. Yeah, and I am a believer that Ohio State, the way that their schedule has, you know, they're so much better than these teams that they haven't had to fully unleash it.

2:03:37And I think there is a gear there that they're kind of, not holding back intentionally, but you've seen flashes of it every now and then where they'll be like, Like, all right, we're just going to do this right now, and we're just going to score very quickly. And, you know, Jeremiah is going to get it, and then Carnell Tate. And they have that. The Washington game was like that. Yeah, the Washington game where they kind of putzed around, and they're like, you know what, let's just hit the Jeremiah Smith button for a second. And I think that this might be, like, too deep, but I think that's Coach Day growing.

2:04:08Yeah, I agree. Because I think there were times in the past that he played games against the narrative and not against the opponent. Every time against Michigan. You could argue that. Yeah. He went on tirade against Lou Holtz. Yeah, he tried to run the ball against Michigan last year. And this year, it feels very opposite. And actually, post-Michigan last year, it felt very opposite. Their run through the playoff, it was like, no, this is who we are. Yeah. Like, come and get it. And Tennessee got it. Yeah. Got it. Oregon did you know um and this year it feels different they go up against Texas and it's like there was no there was no other opponent it's just like we're just going to win the game with a quarterback that's making his first start so guess what we're going to do not going to put him in a precarious spot we're going to win the football game with a great defense and it's like and that's fine because that's the point right they did the same thing against Washington those two games in particular think about from their standpoint they've got this quarterback that is brand new he's making his first start ever against what was at the time of the number one team in the country so they didn't put him in harm's way at all didn't try to put the game on his shoulders his first start or excuse me his first road start ever was at washington which at the time had the second longest home win streak in college football so guess what they didn't do put the game on his shoulders so to me it was strategic yeah you know and people are like well they didn't look this or that and i'm like no no they kind of executed exactly what they wanted to in those moments And now it all comes down to Michigan.

2:05:40It looks like it. It's crazy that this rivalry has gotten to, you know, there's been points in history where the rivalry has been so great, but right now. It can't have been better than the last few years. I don't know how it would be. Like, I know the 10-year war. I know all of that history. But, guys. It's crazy. This has been, and I've gotten to call every one of them. Right. This has been insane. Insane. And you can't script it better than Ohio State having a national championship team last year and still losing to Michigan. Oh, my gosh. It's crazy. I will tell you, of all the games I've ever called, I took my headset off, and I was like, that didn't just happen.

2:06:20I felt the same way. I was like, no way. Yeah. I couldn't believe it. There was nothing in my prep. Nothing. That I was like, well, they've got a chance here. Nothing. Right. They couldn't pass. They couldn't throw the ball last year. They didn't really try to until late in the second half. And they're like, okay, we should do the stuff that we're good at. The one thing that I missed in that game specifically is just how good those two defensive tackles actually were. Yeah. And what those two allowed them to do. And, by the way, that Michigan team, if you take a look at the last five games of the season, they were the best defense in college football.

2:06:53Yeah. They beat Ohio State. They beat Alabama. They hung with Indiana. They hung with Indiana. Yep. They were playing great offenses, and they were still the number one defense in the country. I definitely miss that leading into that game. But this one could be incredible because there's a really good chance. We'll see if Michigan can beat Northwestern this weekend and Wrigley. You know, there's a solid chance that Michigan sitting there at 9-2 and with a win could get that last second to last spot in the college football playoff. Like this could be a monster as well. Yeah. And so looking past that, it does feel like we're on an Indiana-Ohio State collision course right now.

2:07:30For the champ game? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so tell me about how those styles match up and what you see in them because I keep going back and forth. I keep talking myself out of one side or the other, but what do you see in terms of like does Indiana – I feel like they've got the dudes this year. They've got the players. So I don't know that it's going to be that lopsided. It will be lopsided a little bit in terms of talent, but they've closed the gap quite a bit. So what do you see happening? So to beat Ohio State, I firmly believe you have to have great balance on offense Because if you give that defense, as athletic as they are, a one-way go and you're just a passing team or you're just a running team, I think that they're too good for that.

2:08:09And so because of that, one of the rare teams in the entire country that I think actually matches up well with Ohio State is Indiana because of their balance. Because they can run the football five times. They've run it for over 300 yards. Now, they didn't run it great against Penn State, and that's the recipe to beat Indiana is slow down their run game. But Mendoza is also very good. So they can throw the football. They can run the football. That's going to make life difficult on what I think is the best defense in college football. And then on the opposite side, here's what I – like this idea of putting Julian saying in a pressure cooker, getting pressure to him, making him feel uncomfortable.

2:08:51No one's been able to do that. But Indiana rushes the passer as well as anybody, and they do it in a unique way. and so because of the structures that they run on the defensive side if i were to say of any team in the country like what's the toughest matchup for ohio state it's indiana and so i can't wait for that game i hope that we get that game um i think indiana is as as i think they can win a national championship i really do the my question for them i said the run game for ohio state my question is is health and injury because they haven't gotten to recruit like Ohio State or some of these other teams and build up class after class after class and have a bunch of depth.

2:09:34And we saw it last week. Elijah Surratt was down. They had a left guard that was down. And they struggle a little bit. So if they're healthy, they're really good. List the teams that can win the national championship this year. Ohio State, Indiana, Texas A &M, Georgia. Texas Tech, Oregon. No Bama. No Bama. I know. Bama fans already hate me, so it is what it is. Yeah, just who cares? Here's the thing with Bama. I love what Alabama does, throwing the football. They are not good enough elsewhere. So they're going to run into a matchup that is not favorable for them, and they will lose. That's just the way I feel about it.

2:10:17It's tried and true. NFL, college, you cannot be one-dimensional. And we've seen a few different times during the course of the year where Simpson has not been at his best versus Florida State. They lost second half against Georgia. They got pressure to them. They stagnated. Georgia almost came back and win second half against LSU. They stagnated, you know, and now granted LSU couldn't do anything on offense and they won those games, but that will come back to bite them at some point. Like if you put them up against Ohio State, sorry, like Bama is not winning that game because Ohio State can focus on the passing game.

2:10:51Right. What about, so you mentioned a team, Texas tech, you've seen them live. I'm a big fan. Uh, I do think defensively, at least they definitely have the chops. Totally. Do you trust their offense though in a, Hey, we got to beat three, four really, really good teams here. You know, it's borderline. It's borderline. What I do appreciate about them is that they are balanced so they can run it. They can throw it. I think Baron Morton is a good, and, and part of this too, is uh mac left which is their offensive coordinator a young guy not many people know who he is um i love what he does it's one of those epiphanies where i'm like hold on this is a guy that is doing something totally different than anybody before him so here's what he's doing you guys have heard of like the deep choice offense that art briles ran and now tennessee runs are you familiar with that okay and then you you've heard of of like the the chip kelly um gus malzahn spread running attack right and like that that's a famous offense and then you've got the traditional mike leach lincoln riley air raid mac has married all three of those together and so he has elements of all three in his offense whereas like tennessee is just a pure kind of deep choice offense and and all the others are fairly pure breed.

2:12:10And he's got this, he's got this mixture of an offense that allows him to have answers. It's one of the reasons I think that they're, they've got a shot and that defense is really good. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm high on Texas tech and it's also the, you know, you cover, you do a lot of big 12 games as well. There is always going to be a perception of a big 12 team, not being good enough. Yeah. And it's like, but Arizona state took Texas to the limit. I was going to say Texas. What was it? Fourth and 13. They were dead in the water. Yeah. Listen, Texas Tech is a heck of a team. I'm secretly hoping they don't get one of the buys because I want to see somebody have to go down there and play in Lubbock.

2:12:50That would be awesome. I would love that. Tortillas everywhere. Yeah, what's going on with the tortillas, the controversy? It's been banned, but they still do it? Are people sneaking tortillas into games? And if so, how are you sneaking the tortillas into the games? I have no idea. I don't know why we would ban something like this. It seems like the definition of what makes college football different than the NFL. That's right. Let's lean into that. Let's lean into our differences, our tribalism, our traditions. I'm into that. You also didn't mention Notre Dame. Yeah. You think they are? I think Notre Dame is, I don't know if they can win the national championship, but they are very good.

2:13:27And I think people have the perception and the games they played at the beginning of the season are very different than what they are now in terms of defensively. Totally agree with that. I think they are elite running the football. Elite. And so it would take a really strong defense just to stop that. My concern is that even in a win, CJ Carr played so bad against USC, and I'm like, hold on a second. What happens when he sees Ohio State or when he sees Cassius Howell from Texas A &M? I know that they already played. They lost that game. So they've played their two toughest opponents and lost.

2:14:07And to me, that's why I don't include it. Yeah. Oregon's still in there. I like that. Oregon is still in there. And I know that that same – you could say, like, hey, they're toughest opponent. They lost to Indiana. There's something about that roster. So here's another thing. In the last four years, the team that has the most draft picks wins the national championship. and if you look at like some of these top 50 lists or i start to compile my top 50 and top 60 players in the draft the top two are ohio state and oregon and it's like so they that's why i include them it's because i'm like they have the top end talent now they're young in a lot of areas but and i'm just dan landing is dude that guy is a war daddy like he's gonna win a national championship We're daddy's good.

2:14:54Follow-up question, Mr. Klatt, PFT commenter here from Part of My Take. Do you think that maybe the reason why the last four teams that have won championships have more draft picks is because they won national championships, and then they're seen in a national championship game performing, making plays, and then NFL scouts are like, I love that guy. Yes. You've got to have players play really well to win the national championship. If players play well, they're going to be scouted more favorably. Yep. So, yes, to answer your question, those teams, even before the season, though, you would have said like, hey, that's that team's littered with NFL talent.

2:15:34Here's a great example of that. A guy in the 23 Michigan team that before the year wasn't mentioned as like a really elite NFL prospect. and by the end after they played Alabama and Nick Saban and Washington and won the national championship, Mike Sainer still, he was like the talk of the scouting universe. And it's like, man, this guy is incredible. He was the whole key to the defense. And I think that speaks to your point, that it's like the players developing into that make them national champions. I think that that's probably correct. He's a great player. He really is. Mikey. I got a question about your career as an athlete.

2:16:16Yeah. So you were, we talked about it a little bit on the act, but you were a baseball player first, and you got drafted, 11th round, Padres, tried out. How many years did you try out for, or were you trying to actually make it work? I was in the minor leagues for three seasons. Okay, and then what was the highest level you got to? I played, I told that story, I played one week of like triple-A spring training, and then really just like single-A ball. Okay. Played a couple of double-A games in spring training, but yeah that was kind of it you actually we need to tell the ricky henderson story again because again here yeah yeah you have you have such a great one it's a great one so we gotta sell it this is um my best story from minor league there there are i i need to write a book but this one is the best so um rest in peace sean burrows was a third baseman for the triple a team uh with the san diego padres and i was a third baseman on the lower levels um in in the minor leagues and And if a guy gets hurt or a sore arm or something in spring training, it's just like, hey, go fill in for him.

2:17:20There's just very little structure. And so Sean Burrows was banged up, and he needed like four or five days off, and they were just like, hey, go take Sean's spot in the lineup and play with the AAA team for the next four or five days. I'm like, great. That's awesome. So the next day, Ricky Henderson gets signed by the Padres to a minor league contract. And he's 41, I think, at the time, maybe 42. And Sean Burrows played third, hit second on the AAA team. And Ricky Henderson signs a AAA contract. Where do you think he hits? Lead off. So here I am. I'm sitting in the two-hole behind Ricky Henderson out on the outer field.

2:18:02This isn't even in the stadium. These are these outer fields out there in spring training in Peoria, Arizona. And I'm just in awe. There's Ricky Henderson. My goodness. And so I'm sitting there, and I would be getting into the on-deck circle, and he'd be walking up to the plate, you know, and he'd be tapping his toes and doing his little shuffle, even for no fans, right? Still doing his shuffle. And he'd turn around, and he'd say, three. And I'd be like, what? Look around like, what? What is he talking about? I didn't know what he's doing. Next step back, two. Take his step back. I'm like, what in the world is going on?

2:18:38But in my mind, all I could think about is the 80s Bash Brothers. And I'm like, man, I have to hit a home run so that Ricky's waiting for me at home plate and I'm going to be coming in hot. Just like, bam, give them the Bash Brothers right there. Feel like I'm McGuire, Canseco. Like, let's go. So I am swinging from the heels on every pitch that's even remotely close to the zone. I don't care. Slider? You bet. Splitty? Let's go. I'm hitting this thing out, right? Just, ah! Every at-bat. Four. Three. Two days of this, three days of this, I'm like, I can't take it anymore. I have no idea what this guy is talking about.

2:19:22He's talking to himself. When he gets, he's talking to the third person. What is happening? So I ask our manager, Jeff Gardner. I'm like, Skip, why in the hell does Ricky keep telling me a number before he goes up to bat? And he's like, son, that's how many pitches he expects you to take so he can steal second.

2:19:44That's great. Oh, so good. I love that. So good. And I do love how he was a big third-person guy. Yeah. You've been missing a third-person guy. He was the best I've ever heard. Did he do third-person in front of you? All the time. I never heard him say anything other than third. So he would get to first. and again I always say like these are the backfields there's nobody there guys this is like quieter than beer league softball right like there's no there's no moms in the stands there's no there's nobody there there's no wives in the stands and so he would get to first and he would I want to almost get up you know he would do his little like shuffle and tap his toes you know and and he would be on and we could hear him talking to himself leading off first Ricky gets on and we'd all look over and be like, is he saying it?

2:20:33He's like, yeah, yeah, he's talking. And then you would hear him say like, Ricky steals bags. It was unbelievable. I love that. That's so good. We desperately need a new third person guy. Yeah, we do. We haven't had one of those in a while. We really do. So I brought up this whole baseball thing because you then, what was the decision? Was there a moment where you're like, all right, this is clearly not going to work. And then most guys. who do that, go to play another sport, they don't have success in the other sport, you then go and start for three years at Colorado as a quarterback. How did that all go down?

2:21:10So, Mark Pryor. Yeah. Perfect. Perfect delivery. Perfect delivery. Yeah. Smooth. Calves the size of a gumball machine. Just like massive calves. He's rehabbing. And this is like high to Mark Pryor. This is 01, 02, right? Like he and Kerry Wood are like the guys. Remember, they were always injured. Yeah. And so he comes down to Mesa, Arizona for an extended spring rehab start. And lo and behold, the extended spring Peoria Padres roll into town. So we drive over to Mesa to play the Cubs. And my career's not going great. My lifestyle's not great. I'm like, what am I doing? you know like i hate to say this but like baseball they are not educated folks in the sport of baseball and i'm looking around and i'm like this ain't the life you know for me so we go over to mesa and we're facing mark prior against side field and mark prior's pitching and then we find out like oh yeah it's a rehab start he's throwing 60 fastballs he's not even throwing off speed so like he's out here just to throw fastballs and like they don't care and i'm like i'm a fastball hitter this is great i can't wait and this dude gets up there and gives us that perfect delivery and it's nice and smooth and it looks like he's throwing the ball 27 miles an hour it's just like effortless and then the ball looks like an acme rocket comes out of the back and then just goes like and so i'm sitting up there no he's throwing a fastball i feel like i'm a fastball hitter i I barely had my foot down and the ball hits the glove.

2:22:53And I was like, I need to quit. Oh man. That was it. I struck out on three fastballs, swung through two of them. I walked back to the dugout and I was like, I think I need to go to college. That's, that's incredible. So that was the moment. So when I go back, I quit baseball, went back to, to Colorado. And to be honest, like I said, it was about education and lifestyle. I just needed to get out of minor league baseball. I needed to get an education. And I walked on at Colorado because of that. and lo and behold it was like it worked out yeah i don't know how else to explain it it's incredible worked out how awesome was it being the quarterback at colorado it was phenomenal i grew up there yeah and so that was my team growing up this is why i went back i thought it would be amazing just to run out behind ralphie you know because my dad had taken me to those games my whole life um and then to be the quarterback i man it was it was a dream come true there's no doubt um although after you know in college they don't love like career quarterbacks so once you're a third year quarterback at a college the fan base is like okay i think we're done with him who's who's the shiny new object yeah yeah um so the end of my career didn't end all that great but it was an unbelievable time i loved it i have to imagine that's a school that it is uh exceptionally cool to be like a star athlete yes it was great it's a beautiful place it was great and and my so when i come back i'm older now right so i'm 21 and my first year as a starter me and a teammate of mine who i had played against in high school and he he also kind of walked on late and so we go back but then we just lived with three guys that didn't play and we lived in this house like right on the hill right up from the universe 833 18th street i really hope someone's living there that listens to this yeah it was the best house i lived in the room in the basement my roommate had a six-foot python that got out didn't find him for six months like it was quintessential college house but what would happen is our roommates would be in the stands and they would take our jerseys that like we had gotten from previous seasons like our actual jerseys and wear them in the stands.

2:25:08They would take them out of our closets, wear them in the stands, and then just invite everyone back to the house. So we would get home from games, and it was packed. Like our house, and there would just be people all over the place, in our bedrooms, all over. It was wild. And it also was Colorado before, you know, little down, you know, the football program in the last 15 years before Deion got there. But you guys were still living off the 90s where it's like Colorado football was a big deal. We had won the Big 12 championship in 2001 and then played for it in 02 and 04 and 05. And so we were okay.

2:25:42The problem is 05 was my senior year. We played Texas twice, Vince Young's Texas team. Once in Austin and then again in the Big 12 championship game down in Houston. And they beat us 70-3. Ooh. It's a tough way to do it. 70-3, ooh. Yeah, bro. And then we were like, I should probably. They covered. Try to broadcast. How did you decide to get into broadcasting? By chance. You've got the voice for it. Thank you. Did you always have that voice? No. I tried to smoke eight packs of Marlboros. No, I'm kidding. I got into it by chance, actually. I thought I would always be a coach or go into investment banking.

2:26:21So I was doing that. I was doing investment banking after college, and I was working for this REIT, Real Estate Investment Trust in Denver, and there was a high school football package of games on the local Fox Sports Rocky Mountain back in the day. Do you remember Alfred Williams, the defensive player for the Broncos? It sounds familiar. Okay, so Alfred was the analyst for this high school football package, and Alfred got sick one night, so he said. I don't think he wanted to go call a high school football game. And the network called me because they knew I was back. I'd just been released from the Lions, and they were like, hey, will you do a high school football game?

2:26:58And I said no. And then they begged me to do it and said they'd give me$200. And so I went and did it. And that's literally how my broadcasting career started. That's incredible. And you were just like, were you good at it from the start? So an executive grabbed me after the game. His name was Ken Miller. And Ken, I owe my entire career to Ken because he said, hey, you were really good. I'm going to give you three more. And I told him no. And I was like, well, this is not what I want to do. This is not what I do. I'm a banker. And he was like, no, you're not. so he gave me three more and then he started putting me on other things and then he sent the tape unbeknownst to me to fox sports southwest and all of a sudden they put me on the big 12 studio show and then the real estate market crashes in 07 and i lost my job my real job and my wife thankfully she's amazing sarah klatt she came to me and she said hey i just got this pharmaceutical sales job it covers us try to make it work try to make a broadcasting work so i got this like low rent radio show in denver and started doing radio and tv and just started working my way up that's that's great yeah yeah um all right this has been awesome joel we we love having you on uh you're now a recurring guest so you have to come back on i would love to yes we will definitely get you in the rotation this is like the super bowl of podcasts yeah i don't know about that guys i feel very honored thank you for having me though the key to how this works is we gotta always pretend we're just talking to no one that's a good point yeah i think uh being in the in the podcast space uh i very much admire what you guys do you guys do a great job appreciate that thank you yeah but uh i got one last question roback question rhoback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q zips polos hoodies joggers shorts roback.com promo code take how many times do people call you joe oh my gosh it's got to be endless yeah do you think the comment section my nephew's name is joe oh that's so he's he's like in is he a clat yeah that's very confusing you can't do that i talked to brother talk to my brother yeah well jason you he can't do that i love joe that's yeah yeah but you can't joe's the man that's too similar i i I don't know what to tell you.

2:29:16They call all the time. And it's not just that they call me that. They type it in the comments. I'm Joe in the comments like crazy. Just roll with it. It's all good. No, they're actually talking shit about your nephew. Don't you dare. Joe Klatt is a saint. He's going to get all. Your nephew is now going to live a life where he just gets all the hate online. Because if someone's calling you Joe Klatt, I'd imagine 100 % of the time they're mad at you. Probably. Because if they know who you are. The funniest, though, is when they're very complimentary and use Joe. And it's like, okay. All right, cool.

2:29:48I'm in. I'll pass this along to my nephew. Yeah, that's right. He's going to be fired up about this. Wait. Oh, last thing. Do you think Northwestern has a shot on Saturday? So we're doing big noon kickoff. You're calling the game. Yeah. I can't wait for you guys to be out there at Wrigleyville. It's going to be awesome. It's going to be so much fun. Yes. Northwestern. By the way, David Braun's done a heck of a job. Very good. They're like the quintessential Pat Fitzgerald Northwestern Wildcats where they run the ball. Caleb Komalafe is a really good player. Their defense probably plays a little bit better than their skill, although their skill is very good.

2:30:21I think Michigan will have some trouble with Northwestern because they're not going to beat themselves. Yeah, I'm at a point now because I went to Wisconsin and the Badgers have had a little tough run here where I'm like jealous of Northwestern. How about the win last week? Last week, let's go. Good to win one. Brought old Jed Fish in there and spanked him around. Our leading passer was our punter. Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not us? Probably because we're going to lose by about 50 to Indiana. I just want Kurt Signetti to just take it easy. He will not. No, there's a couple times he's taking it a little easy.

2:30:57Kurt Signetti has zero chill. Here's the thing, though. And I'm here for it. No, but there are certain coaches. I think him and Bielema got into it a little bit in the summer, and I think that's where if you poke him a little. So you think Luke is on his good side? I think he might be like, hey, he's going through some tough stuff. We're not going to. But if you poke him a little, he will remember it and go after it. He'll get after it. Yeah. I love that guy. I'm hoping that maybe, Kurt Cignetti, I think you're a great coach. Just take it easy, man. Look at you buttering him up. Take it easy. That's wild.

2:31:27I feel like he's just constantly in build the resume season. Yeah. He knows. It's style points, but it's like violent style points that he's putting up on everybody. It is absolutely the underdog respect me now mentality. Did you call the UCLA-Indiana game? Yeah. Was there any confusion when Albert Mendoza came in? No. I loved that so much because there were so many people online who were like, look at Signetti and Indiana running up the score with their starting quarterback still in. Yeah. It's like 15 and 16. Alberto. Yeah. They wear similar numbers. And Fernando's running around the sidelines so hyped.

2:32:05It was great. So he comes into our next production meeting. I'm talking to Fernando, and all he could talk about is Alberto. And he's like, you guys know we lived in bunk beds, right? And we're like, we get it, man. Like full stepbrothers mode. Did we just become best friends? Did you guys know that USC had a trick with their third string quarterback and their punter? Yeah, that ain't legal. Yeah. They didn't tell you about that. They didn't let you guys know about that in the production meeting, I bet. Well, I didn't call that game. And when we did call USC, they did not tell us about that. They also didn't tell us that their wide receiver was going to play.

2:32:37Yeah. But don't worry. I'm not upset about it. I'm not upset about it. You're in the business of remembering facts. Yes. All right. Well, Joel, thanks so much. I appreciate it, guys. Thank you for the time. Joel Klatt was brought to you by Twisted Tea, a refreshing hard iced tea made with real brewed tea, 5 % alcohol. Twisted Tea is the perfect alcohol to keep the good times going all season long. whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at a stadium or at the bar, or just seeing where the day takes you. Twisted tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time a great time.

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2:34:36Nothing. Yeah, I'm sick. I'm sick. Yeah, I feel bad. I feel like I'm gonna get everyone sick, although I heard it's going around the office. It wasn't just me. There's been you also timed it so that we're going to PFC. you're gonna get sick either like for football or maybe even thanksgiving you fucked us oh you're you're putting me being a little bit sick on tuesday a little yeah i mean you were you were down bad hank i was down bad sneezing all over us um yeah i don't know what you want me to do it's a weird weird job we have where it's like i kind of have to come in i could have not come in then you guys would have shamed me if you're not coming in no if you're sick stay home but then if If I didn't come in, I would have been on this podcast getting roasted.

2:35:16I did zero shame on Wednesday. You texted me and said, I'm going to try to come in for advisors. I said, do not come in. Did you hear how good Zach was on the couch, though? Oh, that was really good. That was, but can you at least, did you hear about that? I watched it, yeah. I mean, every time we do the game time ad. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That wasn't even when I was sick. I was doing other work. No, no, but that has nothing to do with it. every time we do the show I have to remind you to get the game time for a game we've been doing it for months where the game is at the start of the show have you tried not reminding me and seen what happens yes there's been multiple times where I've looked at you and you just haven't had a game Zach was locked and loaded so you're saying you didn't remind him at all I did not remind him at all that's bullshit I didn't it's bullshit that you go out of your way to remind me it's like if you didn't remind me All right, no more reminders.

2:36:07We'll see how it goes. Zach was locked in the room. You were like, oh, I do something, and then, and I also don't believe you didn't remind him, but that doesn't matter. I didn't. Oh, no, it was no reminding, and Zach was on the couch, and he was fired up to do the ad. Max was shaking his head. I pointed. No, I'm shaking my head at you. He didn't remind me. Yeah, I pointed at my phone, and he was like, what? And then I was like, I think I said, we need a game, and he just ripped it off. No reminder before. Zach comes prepared with everything at every moment. Yes. Every interview we do. Showing up to the podcast.

2:36:34Oh.

2:36:37Fair point Now Zach got you Yeah It's fine He did a good job He did a great job I like seeing you there though No you don't I do I like you so much Hank I made a doll out of you Yeah that was actually going to be my fire fest My fire fest is that my boy Hank My brother He doesn't like the doll that we made My dog is obsessed With this toy I swear to God it hasn't left her side since I gave it to her. It's the best. Like, I woke up this morning and she jumped into bed and I just woke up with the Hank doll just in my bed because she was just playing with it. There's something about the Hank toy.

2:37:17Everywhere she goes, she brings that toy. Got home from work yesterday. Blake sprints down the stairs with Hank in his mouth. What are you doing, Hank? What did you just text? Nothing. It's a great toy. Not just for dogs either. Like a kid. Everyone. Anyone. It's great. What did you used to do? Nothing. Don't worry about it. When you started talking about it, you just picked up your phone and text. Don't worry about it. Okay. It's a fantastic toy. The Hank toy is a good toy. And I can't. Black Friday, people. I'm excited for the people. It's not going to sell. I think it's going to sell. Oh, my God.

2:37:50I actually wish we had a store because it would be early 2000s, new Xbox, people waiting in line for three nights. Black Friday shit. Do you think it'll be car sick? Yeah. I think it's going to be the smash car sticks are limited editions there well so are these this is also a limited edition so then it doesn't how can you type beat well because it's going to be faster car sticks sell out black friday we also wouldn't do this amount of promotion for a car stick we did our entire we did podcasts about it we had an animation about it it was one of our first viral clips that was before we sold it yeah I know so it had like a year of promotion built into it We just showed people a doll of you, and it's just like they're going bananas.

2:38:38We'll see. I can't wait for the first AWL that gets it and then sends us a video of their dog humping Hank. Oh, yeah. We're going to have to put a limit because there's so many people that are like, what is the maximum amount of these that I could buy? Yeah. It might be the one thing that people just are going to want to buy all of them at once. And then people are going to take them on vacation with them, and we'll get to see Hank at the Eiffel Tower, little Hank at the Pyramids. Oh, yeah. I saw a request to make one with a hole in its mouth. Oh. I'm down for that. That's where I draw the line.

2:39:09Was that for memes? Also, I was sick and they just desecrated my desk area. Oh, no. What do you keep texting? Don't worry about it. We tape Lil Hank to the wall. Yeah. I want to do Lil Hank videos like Lil Penny from back in the day. RIP the Penny, by the way. Not Penny Hardaway, but the coin. Maybe get maybe RA's voice for Lil Hank. That'd be a good one. Just think about it. Everyone go by. Hank, you're going to be a superstar. PFT? You are a superstar, Hank. You are. I've had a pretty good week. Nothing really that I would consider to be a fire fest, except for the fact that I've put something off for a very long time that I have to now address.

2:39:49Got to put the El Camino up for the wintertime. Right when you got the mullet. I actually may have to wait a little bit. Why? You could put it up for the wintertime, but. they had ads asked if they could they could do an ad oh look at that okay yeah all right well listen yeah that just extended a little bit more yeah that's what i'm saying you could extend a little bit more okay i like that a lot because i've been i've been putting it off for a while and then it finally snowed and it's like okay now i gotta wait for the snow to melt now i gotta i'm gonna try to park it in the office again but now we got two vanny woodheads that are in the loading bay so we might have to rearrange those so i can keep the el camino in there but uh yeah It's a bitter time of year.

2:40:33The El Camino Max is right. Great summer. Clean summer. Started every single time. Didn't break down. It's so back. That thing is so back. We got one healthy year under its belt. Next season, we're going to come in with all the expectations and nothing's going to go wrong. Super Bowl season for the El Camino. This was the year before the year. I love that. Yeah, I loved it. I love it. Okay, Zach. I had a... My firefights is that Hank has a toy after him. He doesn't like it. I would love it. I thought he would love it. I would absolutely love it if there was a PFT action figure. And also, I'm two for two on successfully doing the Tooth Fairy, but I forgot my son is scared of the Tooth Fairy.

2:41:11Kind of lame by him, but whatever. So when the Tooth Fairy, when he lost the Tooth, the Tooth Fairy came, he came in at like 3 in the morning. It was like, I had to, like, he came in multiple times. Tooth Fairy, I don't know. I'm kind of done with the Tooth Fairy, but I am awesome at it. Two for two. Ten singles this time. That's pretty good. It was pretty. He was pumped. Yeah. He's like, I got other. What'd you get? $1, but 10 of them. Fuck. Yeah. That feels like way more money to a kid than if you gave him like a hundred dollar. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Zach, my fire first of the week is strike zones.

2:41:45I, uh, I recently entered the, uh, uh, a club around the world of, uh, of umpires. I'm not, I just want to make sure that I do the umpire other dudes in the club proud. I'm worried about how dialed my strike zone was. I think I might have kept it too tight. Yeah. The strike zone is too tight. Video out now? Video is out today. If you're listening to this Friday morning, it will be out this afternoon. Love it. Yep. Very cool. So it's Max Punishment. It is out. Pitching against the Savannah Bananas. It's fun. It's a fun video. It's very fun. In a very cool big stadium in Chicago. Yep. In the southern side of Chicago.

2:42:22A Chicago baseball stadium. Yep. And, Zach, you think that your strike zone was too small? Yeah, I think there could have been a little bit of liberties. I think it should have been smaller. Yeah. It was a pretty big zone. It was a pretty big zone. I did a pretty good job framing those pitches, too. Fantastic job framing. I also would like to pre-apologize. I was talking some shit on every single one of you. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. I don't care. Oh, yeah. Who the fuck cares? So Stephen Chain lost. Who finished second this last year? I did. Oh, so you're going to catch Stephen Che. That one never getting out of that one.

2:42:58I'm going to catch Stephen Che and he's going to pitch strikes. Yeah. He's got this. I believe in Stephen Che's arm. I don't. I don't. Okay, good show, boys. Let's do the lottery ball. It is brought to you by Jack Pocket. Today's lottery ball segment is brought to you by Jack Pocket America's number one lottery app. Jack Pockets. Sorry, Jack Pot Seasons officially here. Their Powerball Mega Millions are climbing again, and the buzz is everywhere. Order your official lottery tickets right from your phone using JackPocket. JackPocket customers have already won over$1 billion in lottery prizes, and now new customers can get$5 in free lottery credits.

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2:44:11Based on the total dollar amount of lottery prizes won by Jack Pocket customers. Numbers. Three. Zach also has another fire for us. Oh! Oh, okay. I guess I had a quick one. Renewing subscriptions. Uh-huh. Yeah. There needs to be options to where renewing subscriptions need to go away. We need notifications on, do you want to opt in this month? We need opt-in subscriptions. I just, I completely agree because I had that happen to me today where I finally went into my phone. I was like, I got a renewal for like Poker Go because I watched our coworkers play in the World Series of Poker. I just been paying Poker Go$20 a month.

2:44:54I'm like years for years. I'm the same way. I think I have a DAZN subscription from I think it was an old Canelo Alvarez fight that I got. And my strategy on those is just losing your debit card once a year. Yeah. Because then if you cancel that, then it gets rid of all the old ones. Kind of nature takes the course on that one. What do you have? Last month, I was entering a lot of giveaways on Twitch. And last night, it felt like I lost all the giveaways again because they just hit me for all the subscriptions. I was like, this is a double loss. Didn't hit on any of the sweepstakes and just got absolutely.

2:45:27How many subscriptions? Quite a few. I had like 15, 20. Oh, no. You get five subs, and they enter you to win. So like, say five subs is$25,$30, and they're like, bam, you can win this PC. So you got to enter. And so how much does each sub? Each sub is like$6. So last night you just got hit with like over$100 of subs? I got hit for like$125. I got banged. Oh, damn. Not good. It was a second loss. Did you cancel it? Cancel it. Oh, yeah, immediately. Okay, all right. Good, good, good. So just a one-time loss. That is something I would do where I would just forget to cancel it again and have a month go by.

2:46:03I'm down to enter new giveaways, but I can't get banged for the giveaways a third time. We need to get Zach. We need to win. I want Zach to win one of these giveaways like Zach driving to the office in a Lamborghini like how'd you get this well I just I entered so many times in a Twitch giveaway yeah speed speed gave it to me yeah you just gotta sub up anybody can win sub up by the way please sub up to part of my take YouTube and go watch the video on part of my take YouTube Max versus Savannah Bananas okay numbers 22 memes already said three 77 15 Today's the day of memes 19 You're going to get it now Jets are going to win tonight I'll go 18 What?

2:46:45It's just his day Memes is never going to get it I don't think the Jets are going to win Cover? Did they cover memes? I don't think that That was going to happen

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