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Podcast Episode Summary: Pardon My Take - Jon Gruden In Studio, Joe Flacco Wins TNF And The Hearts Of America, Week 7 Picks And Preview + Fyre Fest
Episode Overview In this episode of *Pardon My Take*, hosts Big Cat and PFT Commenter discuss a range of NFL topics, including Joe Flacco's surprising performance, upcoming matchups, and crucial Week 7 predictions. The episode also features a special guest appearance from Coach Jon Gruden, who shares insights on various NFL teams and players.
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Key Discussions
Joe Flacco's Impact
- Flacco's Return: Joe Flacco's impressive performance in Thursday Night Football (TNF) against the Bengals, leading to a 33-31 victory.
- Flacco's Reputation: Hosts discuss Flacco's elite status as a quarterback and his ability to turn games around, citing his connection with star receiver Jamar Chase.
- Steelers' Perspective: Analysis of Mike Tomlin's frustration with the Steelers losing a game they were expected to win, and the implications of trading Flacco to a division rival.
NFL Week 7 Picks and Previews
- Game Analysis: The hosts dive into various matchups, including the implications of the Rams' travel schedule to London and the potential outcomes for the Bengals and their remaining games.
- Fantasy Minute: Jerry's Fantasy Minute shares betting tips and potential fantasy picks, emphasizing the importance of player matchups and key injuries.
Jon Gruden in Studio
- Coaching Insights: Gruden shares his thoughts on the current state of various NFL teams, including the Eagles, Bills, and Cowboys.
- Eagles' Struggles: Discussion about the Eagles' chemistry issues and the challenges they face after winning the Super Bowl.
- Miami Dolphins: Analysis of Tua Tagovailoa's comments regarding players-only meetings and the pressures of team performance.
- Dallas Cowboys: A deep dive into the Cowboys' offensive capabilities and Dak Prescott's impact on the team's success.
Miscellaneous Topics
- Concert Discussions: Gruden shares his love for music and concerts, particularly classic rock, and how that relates to his life and coaching experience.
- Miscellaneous NFL Talk: Topics covering the Ravens, Falcons, and potential breakout players from the college ranks.
Fire Fest of the Week
- Hank's Fire Fest: Hank discusses the ongoing saga around Jared Goff, the frustrations of the fans, and the continuous updates on the situation.
- PFT's Fire Fest: PFT's personal experience with a flooded apartment bathroom leading to a humorous recount of his struggles.
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Key Takeaways
- Joe Flacco's Performance: Flacco's ability to change the dynamics of a game and bring energy to the Bengals.
- NFL Predictions: Various predictions for Week 7 games, highlighting the importance of upcoming matchups and player performances.
- Coaching Adventures: Gruden's insights into the complexities of being an NFL coach and managing player personalities.
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Conclusion The episode blends humor, sports analysis, and personal anecdotes, making it a rich listening experience for football fans. With Jon Gruden providing unique perspectives on coaching and team dynamics, alongside the usual banter between Big Cat and PFT, this episode of *Pardon My Take* remains engaging and informative.
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0:35a night football game plus some ALCS and NLCS updates. That was a fart noise just for the NLCS. The ALCS has been awesome. It is all brought to you by Game Time. Hank, let's look up a game for this Sunday. All right. The NFL is in full swing. Tailgates, pack stands, that buzz before kickoff, but getting in nightmare. Cues, price jumps, getting logged out mid-click, all you want is to be there. Beer in hand, losing your voice with the crowd. the Game Time app gives the advantage back to fans it's the hack for unlocking amazing tickets and experiences in a few taps it's incredibly easy to use and the Game Time guarantee means you can trust you'll get 100 % authentic tickets on time and at the best price plus fees are always included so what you see is what you pay I was looking at tickets for the Patriots at Titans, Mike Rabel's return Broadway, beautiful time to be in Nashville you can get into the game for$43 on the Game Time app $43 on GameTime.
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2:25That's okay with you guys. Something about him. What do you got? Joe Flacco is actually a very elite quarterback. He won a Super Bowl. He did it really to a certain extent with that great arm of his. I would say absolutely he is an elite quarterback. That's facts. That's facts. Joe Flacco. He has saved Thursday night football. It was an unbelievable game. Bengals win 33-31 in an absolute shootout. And our prayers have been answered. We said the Bengals have a lot of primetime standalone games coming up. We need a quarterback we can enjoy, that we can love. And Joe Flacco is that quarterback. He was electric.
3:07And the Bengals, watch out for the Bengals. The Bengals are back to being fun again. With Joe Flacco, watch out. Joe Flacco understands the mission when you're the Cincinnati quarterback. And the mission is get the ball to Jamar Chase, occasionally T. Higgins, and then mix in some Yoshi. Yeah. That's what you got to do. And Joe did it. He was just force-feeding Jamar Chase all night. It was a beautiful thing to watch. Jamar Chase ended up with 16 receptions for 161 yards. Yeah, Joe Flacco, he is on a one-man barnstorming tour to make every fan base fall in love with him eventually. And he's going to get there.
3:39I think one day he's going to end up playing for the Steelers. Because Mike Tomlin absolutely hates Joe Flacco. He respects him, and he hates playing against him. he was pissed off at Andrew Barry for trading him inside the division like what the fuck are you doing dude why are you making me play against this guy again why would you ever do that the guy was good enough to be your starting quarterback week one of the season and now you're trading him across the state it didn't make sense to Mike Tomlin it doesn't make sense to anybody except for the Bengals and I'm so goddamn glad that they got him because yes not only the primetime games Thanksgiving is saved because of Joe yep he wasn't retired he was real tired yes from playing on the Browns.
4:20And he, yeah, so Mike Tomlin said earlier in the week, you know, to be honest, it was shocking to me. Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than us because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area. He's right. He had a right to be pissed. They lose this game because of Joe Flacco. The Bengals defense still not great. Doesn't matter. Neither was the Steelers. But listen, they're three and four now. They have the Jets next week. They have the Bears the week after And then they play the Steelers again They have a tough little stretch there Where we don't know what the Ravens are going to be But they play the Patriots, Ravens, and Bills In a four game stretch And they finish with the Dolphins, Cardinals, and Browns Like can the Bengals I'm going to say The Bengals What?
5:08What are you going to say? They're not out of it I'm going to say they're not out of it I'm going to say crazier things have happened In Joe Flacco's career Here's what I'm going to say about the Bengals and Bengals fans who are listening right now. You are no longer just playing out the string of the season. There is something that you can look forward to your Sundays. The next two games are Jets-Bears at home. Why is that crazy, Hank? Why is that crazy? It's not crazy. I thought you were going to say, can the Bengals make a run? It's not crazy. All right. Let's break it down, all right? Because I'll be honest here with Joe Flacco.
5:46I mean, they could beat anyone. So let's just say they beat the Jets and the Bears. I'll give you the Bears. I'll say it. So that would be five and four. Okay? Then they play the Patriots, Ravens, Bills. Wait, you said the Bears? Yeah. I'm just doing this for a hypothetical. Okay. He's not saying they're going to. He's saying that there's a chance. Yes, of course. The Bears are not good enough to be like, oh, the Bears are going to beat the Bengals. They beat the Steelers tonight. Yeah. So Hank does not want Bengals fans to be happy. Here we go. Now, let's just say... To be fair, Hank hates Joe Flacco.
6:17He does hate Joe Flacco. All right, so PFT, I'll talk to you. Yeah, yeah. All right. You don't really... Yes, I agree. I obviously want the Bears to beat the Bengals. I'm just saying, if they beat the Jets and the Bears, they would be 5-4. They play the Patriots, Ravens, Bills, Ravens. Let's say they go 1-3 there. Okay? Let's just say it. No, we'll just do it. We'll just do it. We're doing a thought. That would make them 6-7. Yep. Then they beat the Dolphins, Cardinals, and Browns to finish the season. By my math, that's 10-7. I got them at 10 or 11. 10-7? Yeah, it could happen. Again, anything could happen.
6:54Yeah, they could lose to anyone. The defense does stink. It wasn't good. The Steelers' defense wasn't good either. But, I mean, Joe Flacco, I was surprised that he had that much time to throw. And there were a lot of throws he was making that was, like, quick. He took, like, you know, a few steps. had T. Higgins and mostly actually Jamar Chase tonight on those crossing routes. It's like just get it in between the linebackers. And I mean, the Steelers did a terrible job of it. Terrible. Because it was pretty clear what the Bengals were going to be doing. And they just kept doing it. They just kept doing it until they got stopped and they never got stopped.
7:27And I don't think the Bengals are going to make the playoffs. I don't think they're going to make a run. I'm more trying to pump up Bengals fans because from where Bengals fans were two weeks ago to where they are right now, they can at least enjoy football for another month, which is a big, big thing. Like, your football season ending before Halloween is a terrible feeling. I've been there. It sucks. Now they can at least be like, you never know. With Joe Flacco, he did it with the Browns. Why the fuck not? Just let Cincinnati daydream. That's all it is. Haven't they been through enough? It's a daydream, Hank.
8:02It's not good. Like, if you told me, do I have to bet it with my own money right now that they're going to make the playoffs? I probably would bet no, but I'm going to let them daydream a little bit. He threw for 342, three touchdowns. And if you add, what did he finish with last week? Because last week, it's basically Joe Flacco in the last six quarters. He was bad in the first quarter against the Packers. And in the last six quarters, he's realized the offense. He's realized it's the Jamar Chase button that he has to keep hitting. And he's played well. Yeah, last week he ended with like, so he's probably in the last six quarters like 356 touchdowns or five touchdowns.
8:40Just saying something about Joe Flacco. Something about Joe Flacco. And if you watch the games, Flacco's gotten better every quarter. Something about Joe Flacco. He's improving on a 15-minute by 15-minute basis. Something about Joe Flacco. Something about him. He was an elite quarterback tonight. He had elite speed, too. They put him on the naked bootleg. And Flacco, what did he get, like 11 yards rushing? And that fan just being like, holy shit. Oh, shout out to the Bengals fan that was waving the towel over his head tonight like a helicopter to the point where i thought he was going to levitate off the ground i thought that towel was whipping around fast enough where he was actually going to get airborne on that flat credit to flacco man i bet flacco is going to have a good night tonight i bet he's going to celebrate i bet he's going to go home i bet he's going to drink one and a half beers i bet you he's going to fall asleep on the big chair after drinking one and a half beers and i bet you his wife is going to wake him up at like 2 a.m being like joe you should come upstairs and go to bed he'll be like all right yeah that's enough parting for tonight i don't even think he lives with his wife.
9:34That's a great night. I think his whole family's in New Jersey. Oh, because I know. I think he's probably just hanging out. He's probably going to get in a robe and hang out in his hotel room. Well, I know that his wife got driven over from Cleveland to Cincinnati. Okay, because I know his kids are still like in high school in New Jersey, and they're playing high school football and stuff. So, I mean, Joe Flacco. I feel like Mrs. Flacco's got to make the trip for Thursday Night Football. For the game? Yeah, she probably did. But then she's probably going back, and he's probably just got a hotel room by himself.
10:01Yeah, that'd be nice. Have a nice little subratory jail. Yeah, just hang out. Something about Flacco. As for the Steelers, this was the most Mike Tomlin. The Steelers are the Steelers. And I was on Pittsburgh radio with our friends, Randy and Bill, on this morning, and they were saying, and I was like, are they the same Steelers? They're like, no, no, they're different. But they are because Mike Tomlin, in a game that he's a favorite and supposed to win, will always lose that game. and I'm not saying the Steelers season is done or anything. It's just these are the Steelers. They will win a game at some point that they weren't supposed to win, but Mike Tomlin, the rules of always staying around 500 and staying even, he's got to give a couple of these away, and this is the one that he gave away.
10:50I thought it going in because our good friend Jersey Jerry was saying how this team is different and they're so much better. I was like, I've heard that every single year, and then you fall on your face. He said earlier today, 0 % chance they lose this game. You're going to clip this. Clip it. I want you to clip it. No chance they lose this game. Yeah. Not going to be close. We also, by the way, speaking of which, Pittsburgh Radio, Andrew Filippano, Filippone, who is a host on 937 The Fan, said before the game, there's no way the Steelers lose tonight. In fact, I'll get my nipples pierced with no numbing agents if they lose to the Bungles.
11:30It ain't happening. Now I'm told that Mr. Filippone has made bets and promises like this before. He's like a serial bettor, and he doesn't follow through on them. I mean, this one is so specific that we were joking about it in the cave, but this sounds like a guy who has wanted to get nipples pierced for his entire life, and he's like, I'm just going to throw it out there for this. Hey, guys, don't make me get my nipples pierced. Oh, no. Now I got to get my nipples pierced. Andrew, you wanted your nipples pierced. Just admit it. You're a freak, and that's fine. We're sex positive podcast. You're a freak and you want your nipples pierced and you want them rubbed.
12:07And now you can do it. Hey, if JMU loses this weekend, I'm going to go out and I'm going to eat a full rack of ribs. Yeah. And I will drink the coldest beer that I can find on Saturday night. Boy, I hope they don't. If Wisconsin loses to Ohio State on Saturday, this guy right here, 10 wings on Sunday. 10 wings? 10 wings. That's crazy. How many? 10 wings. And some nachos. And some nachos and maybe some ice cream. You know what? You know what? If the commanders beat the Cowboys on Sunday, no, if the commanders lose to the Cowboys on Sunday, I will do a 12-hour flight simulator marathon, and I won't stop the entire time.
12:43I'm going to be in the air, and I'm going to do it, and I really hope that it doesn't come to that because, man, that's a lot of time to play video games. Yeah, that's a lot of time. You sure, PFT? Yeah, I'm sure. That's how much I believe in my commanders. You sound like the guy who wants to get his nipples pierced. That's how much. No, you don't. Maybe the third one. If you got your nipples pierced, I would judge you so much. What about just the third one? We don't judge each other here. That one's not even sensitive. Yes, you do. If you became a nipple pierced guy, it would change the entire course of this podcast.
13:11You know that. Yeah, I mean, we already saw Cuomo on the debate tonight. Nobody likes a nipple piercing guy. Unbelievable, though. Great game. Thursday Night Football. This is why we watch. These are the types of games where I walk away from and I'm like, yeah, that's why I sit through Jets and Broncos in London. That's why I sit through crappy Thursday night games later in the season where Al Michaels wants to be anywhere but in that booth. I do it because nights like tonight can happen, and you're just buzzing, and it sets the stage for a great football weekend. So did you see Joe Burrow pregame?
13:44Did you see Joe's haircut? He looked very sad. He looked very sad. He looked very emo. He did. He had the floppy, almost like the TikTok hair. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah. Like that flop that goes down in front. but then at halftime he switched up the backwards hat. He looked cool again. Okay. But yeah, Joe, if you're listening to this, the bangs, it makes me sad to see you like that. It looks like you've been sitting in your room listening to The Cure all night. Yeah. By the way, I will say one thing positive about the Steelers. Their defense I don't understand because their defense was supposed to be turning the corner and it got absolutely torched tonight.
14:19And their secondary specifically got abused all night long. but Aaron Rodgers does have it. We had some vintage Aaron Rodgers plays. The Friar Muth touchdown to take the lead late. The fact that he threw a Hail Mary 70 yards in the air or whatever it was. How far was that Hail Mary? He still got it. I think it went about 65 yards in the air. It was a clean 65. Yeah, he's the best at throwing Hail Marys, and he did have some incredible touchdown passes tonight. the one to Friar moved over to the defender looked good he seems like he's he also spends like 50 % of his time on the field yelling at somebody yeah he's like always frustrated that somebody's not motioning in the right direction they don't know the right route to run um but yeah he Aaron Rodgers is not the problem tonight for the Steelers no so defense and also unfortunately for the Steelers you lost the game and you lost the battle as well because Mike Tomlin punted the ball on a fourth and four with like about four minutes left and the Steelers did get the ball back so that just emboldens him to do it again that's like hey I was right of course this is what you're supposed to do so he like you can't let him have those little wins because now he's going to feel even more bold about it yeah he will uh the Steelers are also kind of building their entire red zone offense out of like the entire the entire offense is built out of the tight end oh yeah they've got they lead the league in tight ends they'll just throw to if if you weigh over 240 pounds they're going to throw a touchdown pass to you i mean their number one receiver is almost a tight end yeah dk's a tight end like hey we got dk fryer mooth darnell washington no fan they're all tight they respect mass and also uh not no fan johnny smith no offense on the bank yeah darnell washington they they put his graphic up as 300 plus pounds which is awesome like they're not gonna we're not gonna say how much because that's hipaa uh but he weighs over 300 pounds i think he weighed in at the start of the year or he's listed at 264 yeah and then tomlin's just like we don't need to tell them exactly how big you are darnell but you were you were 300 plus pounds and that means that the left side of the line was 1219 plus pounds yeah they put on the graphic tonight uh you know the meme uh our our good friend ebo had a good meme you know the meme that uh the the like office harassment rules where it's like the same thing and it's darnell washington i'm six seven 300 pounds and the lady's like oh you're sweet and then it's zion williamson i'm six seven 300 pounds hello human resources yeah please someone come get human resources we got a problem somebody suggested i should just list my height as five eight plus yeah why not i think i think we can go with that yeah 300 plus pounds for darnell and also uh jamar chase told us what was going to happen yeah the Steelers were going to come in there and try to raw dog them yep and they got to be prepared to not let the Steelers rod I'd say raw dog averted yeah reverse raw dog we know the Steelers are going to come in and try to raw dog us and kill us but we will be ready for that challenge and waiting for it did you see the stat uh at the beginning of the game that was shocking the Pittsburgh Steelers 56 consecutive regular season games with seven or fewer points in the first quarter.
17:33That's insane to not have one first quarter in 56 games where it's like, Oh, we lucked into having, you know, a turnover in short field and kick the field goal. They just cannot score more than seven points in the first quarter. Yeah. We've been watching the same Steelers game for the last, it feels like 10 years. Listen, the offense did look better tonight. It didn't look like the same old Steelers in terms of running that bland, like weird tight end out, run up the middle, run up the middle offense. Yeah. They mixed it up a little bit. But, yeah, the defense, Jalen Ramsey getting burnt by T.
18:05Higgins. And credit to T. Higgins for going down and not scoring a touchdown. Yeah. Because you know that he wanted to score very, very deeply. Yeah. And, yeah, he made the smart play, went down, Evan McPherson cleaned it up. Great game. I have the exact stats, by the way. Next Gen Stats said Aaron Rodgers' Hail Mary pass attempt that resulted in an incompletion traveled 69.8 yards in the air. the longest recorded pass attempt since at least 2017. That's pretty crazy. That is wild. Aaron Rodgers still got that arm. Still got it. He still got that arm. Do you see the Darnell Washington 6 '7 dance that he did in the end zone?
18:42No, I didn't. Yeah, he did the 6 '7. I was like, I get it. I was going to say, I saw it. I get it. But I didn't know what he was doing. Yeah, it's a 6 '7. Yeah, yeah. 6 '7. I heard that 41. Zach, give it to us. 6 '7. What does it mean? It ended up being a lot of 2K edits, but it initially came from a rap artist, Skrilla, out of Philadelphia. He's got a music video on Kensington, and it's in one of his songs, and the song blew up on TikTok, and then it went into like AAU basketball edits, and it doesn't mean anything. I heard that 4-1 is the next up. 41. 41. Is that right? There's a couple camps pushing that.
19:21A couple camps? Are they camps I want to be involved with? That was like August, I think, but... Fell off? Yeah. Hank, do you appreciate that Zach's here now to explain these things to us? Very much. Yeah. You can just check out on that. I mean, I didn't really know what that was in the first place, but... Yeah. Like, I didn't know any of that. I knew it was a rap song. I think I said this, but my kids know 6 '7". Yeah. So I'm getting closer and closer to... I'm going to get lapped at some point. I mean, they're closer in age to... Well, no, Zach, you're 27, right? 28 oh well you're in the you're in the culture i try to be relatively tapped in yeah what's the culture feeling with zach i think uh six eight has to feel like chopped liver like 69 is a sex number six seven is now the cool new number what what's wrong with me you got nothing uh should talk a little baseball before we do picks and preview dodgers uh again they're unfair but But, I mean, what are you going to say?
20:23Like, I'm more jealous than anything. They're so good. Oh, yeah, we got Tyler Glasnow. Let's just roll him out there. It's nuts. And, you know, Shohei hit a triple to start the game, like where he basically threw the bat at the ball. And it's just nuts. The broadcast, too, at one point was like, the Dodgers are so talented that they're able to keep some of their, like, incredible aces and you know in the farms or in like rehab starts until they need him in the playoffs i i wouldn't say like that it's the money it's the money that they're able to do it because of like it's not it's not like they just have so much talent that they've built up like they they just have got all the good players they're in a great spot where they can just bring awesome guys in that they've already paid for yes yeah i know i agree with that 100 yeah and i just need the Brewers to win a game because we just need more baseball.
21:18We can't just have one series end in a sweep. We need the Brewers to try. I don't think they're just try Brewers. And then the Toronto Blue Jays, the Jays are back. They absolutely kick the shit out of the Mariners in the first two games. No team has won a home game yet. That was a what is it? Wednesday night was a dong fast. Was it eight home runs in that game? Crazy. And then tonight they did the same thing where they just beat the shit out of him. Yeah, every time I was looking over, I put that on the second screen. That game got demoted to second screen on Wednesday night. And every time I looked over at it, it was another dong leaving the stadium.
21:58And then by the end of it, there was a sad dong from the Mariners that left the stadium. And I think Cal touched the trident, the home run trident. He didn't want to pick it up and demonstrate with it, which credit to him for having a sense of the moment. But yeah, there's nothing like a sad home run prop being enacted. That was tough to watch. We got a prop off between these two teams. We got the Trident and then the jacket on the Jays. They got that cool jacket they put on. Also, congrats to our friend Jeff Passan. He gets to go back to the Imperial Pub. Yeah, good for him. Yeah, because this series is going back to Toronto, whether it be 3-2 Mariners or 3-2 Blue Jays.
22:38We don't know, but it's an awesome series. I would love for it to go seven. Two franchises that really, really, like fan bases that deserve it, want it, bad, fun stories. Will they get smoked by the Dodgers? Probably, but I don't care. Just get there. Yeah. Chip in a chair. You know what? If you get to the World Series, if you're in the American League and you get your ass kicked by the Dodgers, you get some sick T-shirts out of it. Yeah. American League champions. You get an – actually, we talked about it, like the celebration that these teams do. Whoever wins the ALCS should really celebrate.
23:10Yeah. Celebrate like you won the World Series. Yeah. In fact, you know what? That's my world champion is going to be the American League champion. Yeah, I like that. But the baseball, yeah. I mean, the Dodgers have kind of ruined. I don't want to do the Dodgers have ruined the sport, but if they sweep the Brewers and win the World Series in four or five, then yeah, I'm ready to say they win the sport. Yeah, the problem with the Dodgers is, yes, they have completely cornered the market on awesome baseball players, but their players are still very fun to watch. Yeah. Like, I like watching them play.
23:41Correct. It just feels like a foregone conclusion that they've just amassed so much talent that it's pointless. Right. Max, what do you think? Baseball guy. Our baseball expert. I don't want to make this about myself. But. The Phillies are going to be the only team that had a shot. They were in every single one of those games. They should have won at least one of those three to at least force game five. I think the Dodgers are going to beat the fuck out of every other team, and it's not even going to be close. So, America, we had our chance with the Phillies. We did. But I don't want to make it about me or make it about the Phillies.
24:19I'm not going to make it about Philadelphia, but if you guys had beaten the Dodgers in the first series, would you guys have then won the World Series, or who would have beaten you? We would have choked, but we could have beat the Dodgers. Yeah, if you had won that game, you would have beaten the Dodgers. I actually believe that. They could have won either. Whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever. Don't make it about yourself. I'm not making it about myself. Shout out to Max Scherzer. Yeah. Ageless wonder. I mean, he was awesome tonight. He was five and two thirds, two earned runs. Screaming at his manager.
24:51Yeah. When he was about to get pulled from the game, he just yelled, like, get the fuck off my mound. I love Mad Max, man. He is absolutely insane. I love that he's still out there doing it, still throwing some gas. And the Toronto Blue Jays have great uniforms. Yep. Great, great uniforms. platforms love them uh okay i think that's it let's get to our week seven picks in preview shout out joe flacco i love joe flacco so much okay before we get to our picks in preview we're brought to you by our friends at draft kings nfl fans what's your favorite touchdown there's over 100 years of tds to pick from for me it's the next one i like jared goff first touchdown i do too because with draft king sportsbook an official sports betting partner of the nfl every touchdown could bring you closer to cashing in.
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27:43When football makes you hungry, get game day deals all season long only on Uber Eats. All right, boys. Week seven. We're going to London again. We're going back across the pond again for a London game. By the way, week seven, this does feel like the point in the season where we're going to start separating some of the contenders, pretenders, maybe some last-ditch efforts from a couple teams that are hanging on by just a thread. Yep. I think we might see some teams with good records kind of show themselves to maybe not be that good this week. Yep. We have the Texans and the Bills are on by. Ravens.
28:27Sorry, Ravens. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry, the Ravens and the Bills. All right, let's get into the games. We have, starting on Sunday morning, the Rams and the Jaguars. The Rams are three-point favorites right now. Over-under is 44.5. The Rams are going to London on Saturday, which I don't love. The Jaguars are going on Tuesday, which is fine. The Rams are going from Baltimore, where they've been all week. They've actually been practicing on Camden Yards field, which is kind of cool. It is kind of cool. McVay said that they might not be able to practice some of the vertical shots that they would like because there's just not enough grass in a baseball outfield.
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29:08They're saying that they're more limited with some of the vertical grass is what he said. He said that might be a good thing. And Devontae Adams said that the defense is probably not thrilled about having 25 yards of fuel to practice on, but they're working on a lot of red zone stuff. Okay. Kind of making do. Is Puka Nakua playing? I don't think that he is. That's a big question. If you have like a sprained ankle and you get on a plane, that makes it swell up more, right? Yeah, although it's been whatever. Maybe that's why they waited till Saturday. Maybe like we got to get Puka's swelling down before we can leave.
29:37Strictly for Puka? I actually don't think that that would be that crazy. Is that important? That might be it. So he's questionable. I don't know if he's been practicing. We'll find out more on Friday. But he's obviously the heart and soul of their offense. I got some interesting stats about the Rams and how good they've been against the spread. Okay. We haven't really talked about the Rams against the spread, but I looked into it. They're 11-3 against the spread in their last 14 games. Yep. One of those was the blocked field goal by the Eagles that got returned and switched. If they just missed that field goal, they cover.
30:10They should be 12-2 at that point. And then there was the fumble at the goal line by Kyron Williams on that Thursday night. that would not necessarily have made them cover, but it would have put them in a position where they could cover that game if he didn't fumble it. So the Rams are just knocking people out against the spread recently. Yes. The big story, though, of this game is are we taking the Jaguars because Travis Hunter already got baptized before the game last Sunday? Well, you can get born again. Yeah. So Skip Bayless, that was a – seeing Skip Bayless have a 28-minute video on Travis Hunter being selfish for getting baptized before the game on Sunday.
30:49Didn't expect that take, but there it was. Yeah, I thought it would be an hour. I thought it would be more material than that. But, yeah, just when you think Skip doesn't have his fastball anymore, he comes out with Travis Hunter lost that game because he dedicated his life to the Lord on Sunday morning when he should have been thinking about football. I didn't think about that. I kind of kicked myself for not having that take before Skip did. Yep. But I also have to just take my hat off to Skip Bayless because the man, he still has it. Still got it. He still has it. We also have the fun Liam Cohn used to be Sean McVay's coffee guy.
31:23He was explaining when he first started with the Rams. He actually was the one who was drawing up the plays for Sean McVay and learning how Sean McVay's brain works. and said he got a ton of access to Sean McVay that most other coaches wouldn't get. So I think there is some fondness there. Does Liam Cohen maybe know something about Sean McVay that he could take advantage of? Well, they both do the sign-stealing stuff, according to Robert Salah. So who's going to be stealing signs from who in this game? Yeah. Also, we should mention, I said this last week, I'll say it again because it reigns true again, but the Rams have yet to give up a 20-plus yard run on the season.
32:03Yeah, that's crazy. That's pretty good. Did you know that since 2007, we've had 41 games in London, and this is only the second time that both teams have a winning record in a game. So this is maybe the best matchup that London has ever seen. And the Jaguars are London's team. They are London's team. They are, yeah. I, again, don't like these early mornings when we have to do them every single week. Caddell's taking advantage of us. I don't know if we talked about this on this show, but I was thinking that there should be a different way that we decide which teams go over to London. And it's just a fan vote on Monday morning.
32:41Yeah. It's like the worst matchup of the week. Yeah. Send that one over to London. Just like, I don't know. Pretend that stop. I just, is this it for a while? Are we done for a while? I think so. I think we're done for a while. And then look at the schedule, Max, there's two more. I know there's the Madrid game that you got to play PFT. Yeah, I do. You're going to be jet lagged from that Years pinned back I'm going to fly out on Tuesday if that's okay Get acclimated Alright, so we have This is the second to last Or third to last Sunday, November 9th In Berlin And then Sunday, November 16th in Madrid So we got Germany and Spain And then we're done But we do have a little break So we don't have a game overseas For the next few weeks at least And this is actually like I know that a lot of the complaints are like Well, we watched the Broncos-Jets That game sucked The Steelers or the Browns versus Vikings.
33:31I actually am like more mad when it's two potentially playoff teams having to go to London. Yeah. Play that game in front of American fans and play it under like on a regular Sunday like slot. You're right. Like send the worst games. Yeah. Browns Dolphins should be in London this weekend. Well, I'm excited for that game. Let's actually do that game next. Browns Dolphins. Wait, do you know anyone who actually watched all 28 minutes of the Skip Bayless video about Travis Hunter? No. I need to find somebody that's watched that entire thing. I made it through about a minute and a half. Yeah. I didn't even click on it.
34:03Even for Skip, it was a shocking take. Yeah, it was. Dolphins-Browns. Let's talk about this game. So this is the noon slate. Browns are two and a half point favorites. The over-under is 37 and a half because we have the first ever matchup of – oh, it's actually 36 and a half right now. The first ever matchup of two Hawaiian lefties who can't really throw the ball playing quarterback in really shitty Cleveland weather. There's reports right now, which I don't believe these reports this early, of like 50 to 60 mile an hour gusts and rain. I got to wait till game day to figure this out. But on paper, this could be a very fun, horrific game.
34:51It could be ugly. I had the same reaction when I saw the initial report of 50 to 60 mile an hour wind gust possible. I got excited as I do anytime they forecast like the first snow football game of the year. I get excited by it. And then you dig deeper into the forecast. It's like probably like 20 to 30 mile an hour winds. Yeah. I don't know if it's going to be up. I hope it's up to 50. I hope it's up to 70. I would love to see that. But it's always going to be better than what was promised. Yes. If it was 60, that would be a great football game to watch. especially yeah two two left-handed hawaiian born starting quarterbacks that don't have a relationship for the first time yeah they don't so so uh dylan gabriel broke one of two is uh passing records in high school in 2018 but it's weird they do not they asked dylan gabriel he's like yeah we don't really talk you'd think lefty hawaiian quarterbacks would be like the brother number oos yeah double oos yeah lefty use actually the hawaiian word for left-handed is Lima Hema.
35:47Okay. Which is kind of cool. That is cool. Tua also had to apologize this week. He said, I made a mistake. We talk a lot about we got to get this going, come in excited for work and forget about the noise. And I feel like I just added on that for our guys. He's talking to obviously about him saying there's people not showing up to player only meetings and they lack leadership even though he's the quarterback. We're all trying to find the guy who did this. It's bad. I love the Browns in this game, by the way, because the Dolphins have the worst rush defense in the NFL. They are giving up 5.6 yards per carry.
36:22That's 30th. They've allowed the most rushing yards in 1 ,011 yards. I think this is going to be a Quinshawn Judkins get him going, make it as easy as possible for Dylan Gabriel and the Browns defense at home has always been good and I feel like they might be able to win a game. Yeah, I think this is a matchup of what's the best unit the best unit is the browns defense yeah that's the only good unit that we're gonna see especially if the weather's bad especially yeah and that that defense is going to play well if it's if it's just really really shitty outside uh the browns defense can definitely make to uncomfortable um the browns being a favorite makes me a little nervous yeah i kind of like it even more so um i looked into mike mcdaniel's stats in terms of uh teams that he's played with losing records and teams that he's played with winning records.
37:14Do you have a guess for what his record is against winning teams? Mike McDaniel. Yeah. As a coach. One win. Three and 15. Okay. I know it's bad. And against teams with losing records, I guess 500 and below. He's got to be like 12 and five. No, he's 26 and 13. Oh, wow. Against those teams. So much, much better against bad teams than good teams. So this is a bad team. But a good unit. But a good unit. Yeah. And Dylan Gabriel and Quinchan Judkins. And Dylan Gabriel said that after he got beat up by the Steelers, he said, I'm used to it. My mom used to beat my ass when I was a kid, so nothing will compare to that.
37:53I'm just kidding. He said, I'm just kidding at the end. But also, now I think your mom probably beat your ass. Now I think he probably has a little bit of grit to him. Yeah. Yeah. This is going to be a bad one. What game are we going to put on main TV? Vikings-Eagles? No. Oh, Max is shaking his head. He shook it off. Should we just embrace the suck and put this on main TV? No. It might be so bad it's good. Like, I don't want to put... Saints-Bears. I mean, obviously, I would prefer that, but I'm not going to try to say that we need to put the Bears on sound. I'd rather that or Vikings-Eagles, I think.
38:33Okay. Yeah. All right, Max. You don't want Vikings-Eagles on sound? We'll get to it. Okay. All right. We will get to it. All right. Let's talk Saints Bears. The Bears are right now. What is it? Four and a half. Four and a half. It's gone down to four and a half. It was five and a half point favorites. This is a game that the Bears have to win. I'm dubbing it a must win because the Bears are, you'd think, better than the Saints. Over under is 46 and a half. They must win this game. They must win this game. They have to win this game. if you're going to be a good team which they're not yet they're in the process of trying to become a good team they must win this game do you think that these two quarterbacks hate each other well yeah so Caleb Williams took Spencer Rattler's job yeah Spencer Rattler was asked about it and he was just like yeah I guess we're cordial he was like I respect him I think he's a great player he gave like the most boilerplate answers ever yep which sounds to me like Spencer Rattler has learned what to say instead of being honest yes because like if you're if you're Spencer you have no choice but to hate that guy right yeah like he took your job you were you were the anointed king of norman oklahoma and then all the fans turned on you felt like in one game they just turned on him and then yeah he went on to south carolina and then caleb left and then caleb left and now he's like what the fuck did you took my job then you left i feel like he has to hate caleb he's going i would say yes because he's going with the it was a blessing in disguise route yeah that's always a telltale sign uh it is a so a revenge game for spencer rattler is it a revenge game for saints players against dennis allen yes or is it a love game because they probably liked dennis allen because he was there obviously they didn't like him as a head coach but he was also there for 15 years yeah so he was there obviously they don't have like the rosters turned over but he he was there for a long time with the saints i was gonna say do you think it's a dennis allen revenge game it might be even though though shout out to the saints for for keeping him as the head coach for so long i was gonna say dennis allen can't be like oh man i can't believe they fired me yeah how how would that work he he he probably when he got fired he's like yeah that makes sense i would have fired me a while ago yeah he probably spent the last like eight weeks of his job wondering if today's the day that he's going to get fired yeah which i guess is also torture against a man yep um so yeah i don't think that i don't think dennis allen has any right to be upset at the saints no keeping him gainfully employed i don't know did i don't know if the Saints if the players like Dennis Allen or not though I I feel like they would I feel like he's one of those guys because he was a coordinator for so long before the head coach I feel like there's never been anyone saying that he didn't like Dennis Allen they just said Dennis Allen can't coach head coach yeah uh speaking of head coaches the Bears under Matt Eberflus were six and twenty in one score games are now two and one in one score games with Ben Johnson yeah culture is changing also bears are uh the only team to score at least 21 points in each of their first five games they've scored in 18 of their 20 quarters this season which is pretty good that is pretty good yeah if you're looking at the the first quarter stuff the saints have allowed touchdowns on each of their opponents first two possessions in their last four games this is a this is a ben johnson script game i'm very worried about this game because i do think spencer rattler is not that bad no he's not and uh this this is like a hey you know big monday night win feeling like you know like things are going well fall flat on your face spot so i'm a little nervous also the trey aikman stuff uh continued all week i guess caleb was grinding tape so hard he missed the meeting with trey and that's why trey and maybe blasted him extra oh is that what happened yeah they he was asked about it in a press conference like yeah i was i missed the meeting with him because i was working on the game plan i tried to call him he didn't pick up i i don't know what else to say and then troy held that against him yeah which i'm fine with troy can hold it against also usc quarterback ucla guy troy probably baked in there somewhere yeah so i did see some of the some of the uh side-by-side comparisons of each player's like first 23 games or whatever caleb williams versus troy aikman's i saw those going around it's always It's very funny to see those with Troy Aikman because Troy Aikman was bad when he first got into the league.
42:45But also the first like year and a half. Let me so I don't like the Troy Aikman trash Caleb Williams, but I also don't care because it's like, hey, you're you got that camp. If Caleb ends up, you know, progressing and being awesome, we'll just be like double birds of Drake. And who cares? We got to stop. We got to start realizing. I feel like there's like a new group of NFL fans that don't realize just how different the game is now. Because I saw Troy Aikman side by side with Ryan Tannehill. And people were like, how is Troy Aikman a Hall of Famer? Ryan Tannehill was better. And then someone quoted it with like, hey, here's adjusted for error.
43:24And it was just like, Troy Aikman was so much better. Yeah, Troy Aikman was awesome. I mean, he was bad for his rookie year. His numbers look bad because he played in a different era. And it was a bad team when he first got to the league. And probably until like the second, maybe start of the third year. That's when he started playing well. But yeah, if you look at Caleb Williams' stats compared to Troy Aikman's, Caleb takes shit on him, but it could be anybody from that. Every single person, yeah, in this era. Yeah, you could do Spencer Rattler versus Troy Aikman, and you'd be like, damn, Spencer Rattler, future Hall of Famer.
43:54Joe Namath had more interceptions than touchdowns. Yeah. Do you think that Spencer Rattler has a future as a starting quarterback in this league? Maybe. I think he might. Maybe. I think he might. I feel strong about maybe. Have we heard the name Tyler Shuck in the last six weeks? I have not. Is he hurt? Is he? I thought something happened to him. I think he might have gotten hurt. What's that Paul George story? We're talking football. What's that Paul George story? He will not be available for the season opener. Shock. Oh, no. What happened? Joel Embiid, they're hopeful he will be. So good news, too.
44:32Oh, no. That's good news. You don't say, oh, no to that. Okay. Okay. Tyler Shuck, he held out for a fully guaranteed contract, so he probably didn't get enough training camp. That's what people are saying. Okay. We haven't even heard, like, oh, is it time to switch to Shuck now? That's how good Spencer Rattler's been on a shitty team. Oh, he's the backup. So he has been the backup. So he's not hurt. Yeah, it said, well, this is from October 4th. Okay. Yeah, I don't think Spencer Rattler's been playing that bad. Hank, are you going to be putting the Saints in the Hungry Dogs? I haven't put it in officially, but it's looking like a yes.
45:14It's looking like a yes. It's just a letdown spot for the Bears. And I've been very honest about the Bears. And the Saints were in the game against the Patriots. They were moving the ball in the first. They had two penalties in their first two drives that stopped. They were field goal drives instead of touchdown drives, but they were moving the ball in that game until the end. Yeah, the Bears are definitely in the category. Our defense is not good, and we have turned the ball over. We've taken the ball away. If those takeaways go away, it could look a lot different. We're living and dying on takeaways right now as a defensive unit.
45:49So that could always just be one of those situations where like, oh, like kind of similar to the Jaguars. Jaguars, you know, started, what was it, five and one, four and one, have takeaways in every single game. then they play the Seahawks don't take the ball away lose the Seahawks yeah that could happen at any point uh because the Bears are number one in takeaways this year do you think that you figured something out on Monday with your rush defense no not at all it was good no no I think running defense was it was legitimately good no I think what they figured out is they have to kind of sell out basically the defensive strategy is sell out for the run and hope you turn the ball over in the passing game.
46:31We have gotten a little healthier in the secondary. But yeah, it was a lot of kind of sell out and try to stop the run. And do we have Cairo Santos this week or are we going back to Moody? If Cairo Santos is healthy, he is the starting kicker. Do you know if he's healthy? I do not. But he is the starting kicker. He did not lose his job for injury. Okay. Okay. Next game. Hank, the Patriots going to the Titans. Brian Callahan fired. Mike McCoy now coaching for the Titans. will that light a fire up the Titans ass? I feel like in these situations, it goes one way or the other. Like that could happen.
47:08They could also lose by 40. So the Titans could win or lose the game. They could maybe cover, I think, because the players are motivated. Or not. Or they could respond negatively and just get like it's a complete train wreck. So which one are you thinking about? I'm thinking lose by 40. now i think that that mike mccoy is not the type of interim coach to get that that typical interim coach bump like i'm scared of this guy i'm fired up by this guy bump he seems more like well at least it's not brian callahan which is good for something it's probably good for a couple points yeah but the players like they're having a bad year they're you know qb's saying their ass you got to think about just them you know coming into the building and like you said i don't think Mike McCoy is someone that changes, oh, we got Mike McCoy now.
47:55Let's come in the building fired up, ready to win. Advisor interim coach that rarely seen. I think this is Patriots keep the foot on the gas. Yeah. Although there's so many people think the same thing. There's so much money bet on the Patriots that it scares me. That should be one of the things that we use to figure out who the interim coach should have been. Are they advisor guy? If they're advisor guy, not an interim head coach. Fat guys always interim head coach. Yeah, big guy, if you don't wear a hat at all, that's an interim head coach. Shaved head, interim head coach. Ball cap, usually interim head coach.
48:29Visor doesn't feel like interim head coach material to me. No, I'd agree. I feel like the – I think the Titans are going to rally for Mike McCoy, but I don't know if they are – like they might just be such dog shit that a rally doesn't even look good enough to cover a game. Yeah, and I also feel like the Patriots are going to rally for Mike Vrabel. Yeah. Like, this is the ultimate revenge game. Although, the sting's taken out of it a little bit, given that the guy that replaced him got fired. And he texted him. Mike Vrabel said that he texted Brian Callahan because he's like, listen, nobody texts you when you lose.
49:05And he's like, I appreciate everyone who texted me when I got fired. So, reached out. We have an update on - Also might have reached out and been like, hey, tell me. Tell me some things. Yeah, which - Like, fuck those guys. Let's really put it to them. If I was Brian Callahan, I would absolutely tell you. 100%. Everything. The Titans will not be doing a video tribute to Mike Vrabel at this game, in case anybody was wondering. Yeah. That's rude. The Titans are also 0-10 against the spread in their last 10 home games. I got a blind resume for you guys. Oh. QB1. Mm-hmm. 1 ,000. This is through six games.
49:401 ,100 passing yards, three touchdowns, four interceptions, four fumbles lost 25 sacks taken qb2 1266 passing yards seven tds two interceptions two fumbles lost 19 sacks taken i think one's cam ward yep two is will levis interesting his numbers great quarterback significantly better um i got a blind resume okay because i am a big big drake may believer been very public about that i think he's an awesome quarterback the start of his career has been unreal so i looked up his stats for hank just to show him some things that maybe he hasn't seen before and uh we have a blind resume max can you put that up try to figure out which quarterback is which max is going to put it up on the screen it's a video it's a video yeah because we're going to fade in their actual faces here take a look at 373 completions 67 completion percentage 4 000 yards 23 touchdowns 14 interceptions wow what is it talk about it the guy on the left is tom brady and the guy on the right is drake may actually no the guy on the left is mac jones those are mac jones's first 18 games in the nfl and that's drake may's on the right pretty crazy it is pretty crazy i mean josh mcdaniels i think people people aren't giving enough credit to josh mcdaniels he was mac jones is oc early on when he was a pro bowler he's been with drake may i think i just think people you know he gets he should get more credit for how good of an offensive coordinator he's very good really bad head coach that's fine he's not he's not our head coach yeah yeah i'm i appreciate it do you do you have any comment on pft making this graphic for you no i mean it's a it's a fair Again, like Mac Jones, there was time where there was, you know.
51:38Pro Bowler. Yeah. Yeah. Mac Joneses don't grow on trees. But yeah, no, that doesn't really phase me or change anything. I think that Mac Jones actually has kind of revived the Mac Jones name based on how he's played for the Niners. Oh, big time. He might be the next, like, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold. Why did we let these guys leave town? As long as he doesn't laugh. Every time he laughs, I cringe. Yeah. Do you guys Kim Ward said To Mike Silver this week Once I play how I want to play I think the league will be fucked Do you think he'll ever play how he wants to play? Does he mean like the league will be fucked Like nobody will want to watch it?
52:16I don't know But he said once I play how I want to play I think the league will be fucked That's a nice quote though Because you can just be like If he sucks forever He's like I never got how I wanted to play I like his honesty Yeah, no, he's very direct. And he's a cool story from his entire rise through college football. But are we worried about the league being fucked? I'm not worried about the league being fucked, but I am worrying about the league sucking. It's like Cam Ward plays the way that he wants to play. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He's just so bad. Well, it seems like he plays the way that he wants to play already.
52:54Like he's already doing whatever comes to his head when he's back there. He's like, yeah, fuck it. I'll throw across my body. I don't care. I do think that Cam Ward has the potential to be a very good quarterback, but again, we're going to have to wait until next season to know anything about the guy. By the way, the last four QBs taken number one overall have had their head coach fired during their rookie campaign. Cam Ward, Brian Callahan, Caleb Williams, Matt Eberflus, Bryce Young, Frank Reich, and Trevor Lawrence Urban Meyer. So having the number one pick, maybe not always what it's set up to be.
53:26Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Hank, I do have a good stat about your defense. The Patriots still haven't allowed 50 rushing yards to a ball carrier this season. Oh. It's pretty crazy, isn't it? Yeah. 50. 50. That's really good. Really good. Good team. Okay, next game. Raiders, Chiefs. Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl. Chiefs are minus 11 and a half. They just keep getting guys back. The overrunner is 45 and a half. This game is pretty simple to me. the Chiefs have scored 28 plus points in the last three games. Their offense is humming. Can the Las Vegas Raiders score 16 points? I say no.
54:11I think they might only because I think the Chiefs are going to score a lot of a lot more than 28. Yeah, I think the Chiefs are going to kick off a lot to the Raiders. Okay. So the Raiders might be able to get 16. I mean, Rasheed Rice coming back this week. Yep. It will be a different Chiefs offense. This is also a sneaky Patrick Mahomes always goes like – the Raiders have beaten him a few times. Max Crosby has beaten him up a few times. There is that bad blood of like – remember they did Coach Gruden who's coming up in a minute, the bus ride around Arrowhead. Yeah. The Kermit the Frog video last year.
54:47So this is a true rivalry, and Mahomes I feel like steps it up in these games. yeah i the raiders are they're bad they're a very bad football team their gino is just a bummer he's just a fucking bummer to watch right now how much worse how bad does it have to get to go to kenny pickett i don't know i don't know i feel like a three interception game might do it yeah he's definitely able to do that he's got 10 on the season he's got that in him did you watch where she rice's hype video that he made for himself i did not i watched it was a good i thought that he was like coming back from a debilitating injury or something off the field that was been freed a heartbreaking story but in reality and then i had to remind myself he's coming back from hitting somebody with his car yeah going way too fast yeah and being a dangerous person yeah it's like a it's a pretty crazy hype video that he made for himself the return of rr listen we all find adversity in different ways right wow the return of rr yeah everyone's talking about it he's in a pool.
55:50Band work. Band work. Be careful, Anthony Richardson. He's pushing. And now he's back. Now he's back and ready to go. Yeah, this is going to be unfair. The Chiefs are going to be really good. They're going to be – their offense looks completely fine. Yeah. And they still have Spags and Chris Jones. He's got a YouTube – how many subscribers does he have on YouTube? Rasheed Rice? Yeah. What kind of content is he putting out? Probably just work out. defensive driving i'd like to see this she rice what does he got going on does he have a youtube it said maybe he doesn't maybe he hasn't dropped his youtube yet oh this is yeah it's like pre-subscribe yeah he's come yeah he's coming back and he's also going to bring a youtube with him this time watch this space Max is not the number one searcher I searched his name on YouTube I don't know what else I'm supposed to search Let's see Rasheed Rice YouTube channel But I'm on I searched his name on YouTube and nothing is showing up Okay I apologize that was rude of me Yeah I like the Chiefs Do you accept my apology?
57:06I accept Thank you I like the Chiefs a lot That was confusing that he did the YouTube We're looking to subscribe, Rishi Rishi, if you're listening to this, please Let us subscribe We need more content, buddy Please, let us subscribe Okay Panthers Jets
57:27I don't really know what to say about this game The Jets are one and a half point underdogs Maybe we put this on main TV No Over-unders, 42 and a half The Panthers stink on the road Meow Mix, though, 2-0. Mm-hmm. No Garrett Wilson. This is going to be a tough watch, a really tough watch. We do have a new Meow Mix parlay, though. Okay, give it to me. For the kids out there. Panthers are 0-10 against the spread and straight up as a favorite since 2021. Yikes. Yikes. Yikes. All right, what do we got for the Meow Mix parlay? Gambling for the children, taking the Panthers against the spread. Programming update.
58:08we definitely won't be returning if the Panthers continue to win as we legitimately might be cursed. Yes. Update from Meow Mix about that one. Okay. Wait, what's the parlay? They're just taking Panthers against the spread. Yeah. So, yeah, Panthers against the spread. That's it. Gambling for the kids. Shout out Meow Mix. My concern is that Dave Canales has not won a game this year in a state where they make you take a photo of your ID if you want to access porn online. And he is a porn addict, a self-described porn addict. He is. He is 3-0 in states where they do make you verify your identification.
58:47Which would be Carolina. Which would be North Carolina. Yeah. But we, yeah. So he might be up all night beforehand. So there have been 17 head coaches since 1980 who have started their career head coaching 0-6. Memes. Positive note. Four of them eventually took their teams to the playoffs How many lasted the next season? I don't know how many lasted the next season But 13 of them did not take their team to the playoff and got fired But let's focus on the positive Dan Campbell started 0-6 Zach Taylor started 0-6 Kyle Shanahan started 0-6 Jimmy Johnson started 0-6 That's a good group That's a good group It's a great group Yeah The other ones that started 0-6 like Frank Wright, Brian Flores, Hugh Jackson, Gus Bradley, Chan Gilly, Steve Spagnuolo, Raheem Morris when he was with the Bucs, Cam Cameron.
59:45Remember that? Mm-hmm. Where we at, memes? You can win this game. All we found was Rasheed Rice. He's got 41 subscribers. Be the 42nd subscriber, Max. Bang. Look at that. That's like That's pretty 41 His only video Is the hype video It's a good hype video It tells me Big things coming From Rishi Rice Yeah Memes Where are we at? Let's talk it through I don't look forward To Sundays anymore But the players Are playing With pride right now Are they? We don't The players are You don't It's not necessarily Coaching It's not coaching at all They're playing with pride They're just playing With pride and that's why they played decent on the defensive side of the ball last week.
1:00:34Okay. Yeah, we can work with that. We can absolutely work with that. What do you expect out of the team this week? More pride. More pride. It's pride month for the Jets. A lot of pride. I'm like slightly rooting for them to go on 17. Oh. Okay, so once the ball gets kicked off, are you rooting for them to lose or are you still rooting for them to win? Still rooting for them to win, but in the back of my mind, And it's just 0-17 is the only way to put a blemish on Woody Johnson to be like, you're the worst owner in professional sports. I see what you're saying, and I kind of agree, where you need it to be.
1:01:10You're at the point where it's like, I've been there before, where it's like, you need it to get even worse than it is right now, and it is as bad as it could possibly be. And you're like, we got to go lower. In that scenario, it probably means you're also like, the Giants being good is better for you. yeah it's like the city yeah you need the pressure the city is like well the giants are making a run new quarterback you know you need like video you need woody johnson to see like videos of like elementary school kids being like i wanted to be a jets fan but i'm a i love jackson dart and cam scatabo like that type of stuff where he's losing fans yeah and then the other side of that there was a video from england last week of how they became fans of the jets and it was the saddest thing ever what would they say we just like pain yeah they're just like became a fan of the jets they never won since but maybe next year probably not we're just trying me hardest did you know that the panthers now are the second team in nfl history to have 400 total yards 200 rushing yards and 25 first downs in three consecutive games i did not say it again well Well, the Panthers have done it two straight weeks.
1:02:22One other team did that for three straight weeks. Okay. And so the Panthers could join the 1983 Steelers to be the only team that have ever done that. Okay. So that's more just showing like the Panthers have been really good for two weeks. Right. But we don't know. We still don't know. It's been a hot two weeks. It's been a really hot two weeks, but we still don't know if the Panthers are good. They're three and three. That's like, that's great for the Panthers. Yeah. But we still don't know like how good of a three and three team are they? Right. How uh What's the offense no Garrett Wilson Who's getting the ball Josh Reynolds Okay Okay Are they're gonna free 20 Is there going to be a Tyrod Taylor appearance?
1:03:03I think if Justin Fields doesn't throw the ball, then there will be. There has to be. Yeah. The bright side is you're not playing the Broncos defense or any defense similar to that. I guess the Browns for the rest of the season. True. True. This game is so bad. So he should be able to not play that bad ever again. This will be a pretty big test for the Panthers. They've got to win this game. Yeah, Bryce is 1-15 on the road. He's won one game. It's not a great road record. Memes, I think this might be the week. Fuck it. I'm going to say it. I like it, Memes. I'm going to say it. The New York Jets are going to win a football game this weekend.
1:03:41Let's go, Memes. The only reason why I think that is they have to be thinking that they just handily beat the Cowboys, and the Cowboys just kicked the living shit out of the Jets at home. So they're probably like, there's no way we lose to this team. Yeah. And then they lose to this team. And then they lose to that team. This is the week, Memes. You're going to win a game this week. You're going to celebrate when they win? Yeah, of course. Yeah. Pop the champagne. We're going to let you talk that shit. Talk that shit. You're going to talk that shit. The finals the week after. Yeah. And then a bye.
1:04:11Well, you go bye, then Browns. I know, but a bye will be nice for your mental state. You'll probably lose to the bye. No. Come on. Yeah. What if you guys win this week, and then you come back, you beat both Ohio teams, and now you've got three wins. Now you guys are the best team in Ohio. The Jets might be on the precipice of a three-game winning streak. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. This could be the start of the championship DVD. You guys are mean for doing this. No. Look at the schedule, Max. We're talking it out. Yeah, look at the Jets. All right, what do you want us to say, Max? Oh, memes.
1:04:46The Jets fucking suck dick. They're going to be 0-17. You're pathetic. You should keep being sad. No, we're trying to boost our boy up. This is the week, memes. Thank you. You guys know what you're doing. No, no. I'm going to bet the Panthers. I'm going to bet. Oh, shit. You just said I'm going to bet the Panthers. I know. I said it was a Freudian slip. I'm going to bet the Jets. Brees Hall. Jets are good against spread. Justin, you know what they need to do? If the Jets can go into this game and just be like, hey, we're running Army's offense. You've been saying that all year. Justin Fields, you don't even have to throw.
1:05:14Maybe a couple passes to the tight end. Who cares? Just run it down their fucking throat. Mason Taylor game. Yeah. Yeah, let it fly. Let it fly. No, but not now. Maybe just run. Hasn't thrown an interception all season. Let it fly with your feet. Yeah. Run like the wind. He played good that first week. Yeah. I know. There you go. That first week was mean. Yeah, they should have lost 32 to nothing. Yeah, that was really mean the first week. He didn't throw five interceptions. Yeah. Okay. Before we get to the rest of the games, Twisted Tea. Twisted Tea is a refreshing hard iced tea made with real brewed iced tea and 5 % alcohol.
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1:06:40let's do it Vikings, Eagles Eagles, where are we at mentally? Vikings are two and a half point dogs. I think maybe now one and a half point dogs. They're off a bye. We don't know who's starting quarterback for the Vikings. Leaning towards Wentz, I think. Leaning towards Wentz, which I think you would prefer to be McCarthy. Yeah, I think so too. One and a half point underdogs. The Vikings over under is 43 and a half. Where are we at? This is the do or die game. You're putting this one as the do or die game? Yep. Wow. If you lose third week in a row to Carson Wentz when all of this shit is coming out, they should be mostly healthy.
1:07:25Was Quinion Mitchell playing? Quinion Mitchell was practicing today. It's leaning towards looking like he's going to play. Jalen Carter is definitely going to play. Okay, that helps. Landon Dickerson was practicing today. Is Zedarius Smith playing? He's a Darius Smith has mysteriously retired. Okay. Which is not great. We talked about this the other day. You're right. Forgot about that. I think that if they lose this game, I think it comes crumbling down. But if they win this game, you can be like, all right, we did this last year. Early in the season, we had a little blimp, and then we figured it out.
1:08:02That's not the word. A little blimp in the radar. Nope. Just a little baby blimp. A little blimp. What's the word I was looking for? Blip. Blip. No, M. Oh, look at that blimp in the radar. Yeah. It's a big Goodyear blimp. I've said blimp. I've always thought that was blimp in the radar. It's okay. I'm not a words guy. That's fine. But, yeah, no, it's – if we win this game, you can work back. If you lose this game, it's looking like two years ago. Yeah. There's already been words that, like, the vibes in the locker room feels a lot, like two years ago. Who's been saying that? Reports. What reports?
1:08:42Rossini. Probably Rossini. Probably Florio. I want to. What? What happened? Whoa. Say it. Her husband's a huge birds guy. I know. How is he letting this happen? Yeah, that's true. Every time I read it, that's what I'm thinking. You think he should suppress the news? Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yeah. She should. Yeah. If it were me, yes. With hold sex. No wife of mine is going to report against the birds. Correct. Yeah. Correct. Max, I got a question for you. We're not having sex if you keep saying shit about the birds. Yeah. I got a question for you, Max. Would this describe some of the problems with the Eagles offense this year?
1:09:23That your passes are too short? There's no real vertical threat at times? Yeah. That's been a lot. Very predictable. Short passes. Not a lot of risks. Yeah, bad on first down. Really bad on first and second down. We can't run the football either. Yeah, would you say that? Because I think they're running like three plays. Would you say that the run game that used to be a strength is now not dominant anymore? It is a, yes, it is a negative. Would you say that the offense is too predictable? Yes. Would you say that the adjustments are an issue? Sure. Making adjustments to the offense in game. Yes, yes, yes.
1:10:01I thought you meant like at the line of scrimmage. No, adjustments like in game. Yes. In game adjustments. Those are actually all the criticisms of the offense in 2023 when they had just switched coordinators. That's what I just said. After the coordinators. I got yelled at for saying that a couple weeks ago. Huh? What did you say? I got yelled at for saying that a couple weeks ago. By me? Yeah. Week-to-week league. Week-to-week league. Yeah, this is exactly what happened the last time they changed. Was it Brian Johnson, right? Yeah. We're seeing all those criticisms were actually taken from an article that was written in 2023, and that's exactly what's happening right now.
1:10:35Max, have you thought about smiling and accepting the challenge? What? Just smiling and accepting the challenge. Is that like a saying? Have you thought about that? Accepting the challenge of what? Of just like losing the last two games. Smile. Just walk in with a smile every day and accept the challenge that you see in front of you. Is this? That's what Jalen Hurts said. He's going to smile and accept the challenge. Have you thought about doing that? He's your leader. Let's start seeing you smile and accepting challenges every day. I was smiling. Asked PFT if I was smiling during the Giants game.
1:11:13You were laughing. You were smiling. You were laughing. You were the Joker. Yeah. So, yes, I will be smiling. If they lose this game, I will be smiling. Yeah, because you're going to go psycho. No. Psycho Max. If they lose this game, it's just blow up. We need a cap guy. We need a cap guy. Yeah, we got to get a cap guy. I don't understand the dead cap, and I don't understand why everyone is saying that A.J. Brown is going to get traded when he can't get traded. All right, we're going to do a cap guy next week. Because I don't get it. Half of Twitter is saying A.J. Brown, definitely going to get traded.
1:11:51The other half of Twitter is saying A.J. Brown cannot get traded because of the dead cap. And then I looked at dead cap, and then some of them say it's like$90 million, and then some of them say it's like$30 million. I don't get it. It's$40 million next season if you trade him. If you trade him right now, it's$40 million next offseason, and then it's$30 million the offseason after that. That sounds like he's not going to get traded. Am I an idiot? Did you know you had a cap guy sitting right next to you? Are you a cap guy? He plays Matt. Yeah, I have to learn the cap. Wow. So do you agree he can't be traded if that's the case?
1:12:26It feels like that. So why is everyone saying he's going to get traded? Because it's fun to say. It's fun to get you riled up. No, but it's everywhere. Rossini will put out a report and be like, an AFC GM thinks that A.J. Brown is going to get traded. How? How is he going to be traded? How? I think sometimes journalists like to write that just envisioning your reaction. I think sometimes they write it for an audience of one. You should call Diana right now and see if her husband's there. She'd be like, dude, what the fuck? Let's give her a call. I don't like this. What the fuck? This is a closed door meeting that we're having here.
1:13:06Tell her to stop reporting bad things. Tell her to stop doing her job when it comes to the Eagles. Let's try it again. She can't hear me. Nope. Nexted. Give her a Zoom link. When she hops in, she hops in. Give her a Zoom link. Text PFT the Zoom link. Give me the Zoom link. I'll send it to her. Zoom? Zoom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She'll just pop in. We'll keep going. As she pops in, we'll get to the bottom of this. We can actually ask her the cap thing, too. That's perfect. This is on the fly. That's all I want to know. That's all I want to know. I also don't even know if she's the one that's reporting me.
1:13:44No, it doesn't matter. You've turned into memes. Yeah. I know. I know. I said that. I did the meme, two memes of, what is it? Seth Rogen stepbrothers meme? Help me out. Help me out. Come on, guys. This seems kind of fucked up now. Yeah, this seems kind of fucked up now. Whatever she was doing to me. Memes, do you have any suggestions for Max on how to get over this? Over Rossini? Yeah, you've done a pretty good job. All right, so I got... Well, she moved on to the Eagles. Yeah. Let's talk about this game real quick. She's here. She says she'll do it. So let me... Yeah, text me the link. We'll get her on.
1:14:21Okay. Oh, breaking moves. Breaking loose. Kurt Signetti has signed a new deal with Indiana for eight years, $11.6 million a year. Wow. Good for him. Contract through November 2033. Good for him. Dude, how much does it rock to be that guy, Jimmy Sexton, the college football agent? Yeah. When James Franklin gets fired, who I think James Franklin is his client, he's just like now i just get to get all my guys more money yeah if you have one coach that's that's doing really really good it's like we're going to one way or another we're going to make so much money this offseason um all right so that's breaking moves about kurt signetti congrats to hoosiers fans they got to be very excited because that was probably not going to be fun to have to go an entire season of people being like well your coach is going to penn state All right, while she's joining, before she joins, the Vikings are also getting healthy.
1:15:23Offensive line should be healthier. They're coming off a bye. Kevin O 'Connell's never played against a Vic Fangio defense as a coordinator or head coach. And Nick Sirianni's 8-0 against the NFC North since joining the Eagles. So a couple stats there. I do think the Vikings and the Hungry Dog. Will you reveal the Hungry Dog at the end of this? Yeah. Okay. But yeah. It could be. It could be. It's almost definitely. Now, is J.J. McCarthy not playing because he's injured or because he's not ready? Or maybe a little bit of both? Probably a little bit of both. Yeah. Because you would think that he might have tried to.
1:16:02They might have had him play. Right. If he's healthy, he should be the starter. Especially with the offensive line getting healthy. Right? Like, ideally. But, I don't know. Seems kind of weird. Quinion Mitchell's got to play in this game. Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison going against no Quinion Mitchell then it's dead if he doesn't play it's dead the season is dead Diana's here we gotta get to the bottom of this okay Diana's here she's in her studio Diana Max has some questions for you he's got a few that you need to answer we're in the middle of our preview and we're doing Vikings vs Eagles and your name came up multiple times, so we need some answers right now.
1:16:45I think you guys brought her name up. No, you did. You brought her name up. No, no, no, no, no, no. Max said very clearly, I think Diana's putting out a lot of bad information and she's doing all this bad stuff about the Eagles like she did to the Jets this year. I did say that. He thinks that you're targeting him much in the same way as you targeted me. But the most important thing he said, Diana, which is what you first have to address, Max said, I don't understand how Diana is married to an Eagles fan. I didn't say that. And she keeps getting to say bad stuff about the Eagles. And then we might have said that your husband needs to maybe withhold sex from you.
1:17:23You said that. You said that. He's got to do something. It's funny you say it because it's actually happening right now. Yes, that's my guy. I love that guy. I've always loved that guy. That is so the truth. Kev has lost attraction to me since I put out a tweet. Yes. like I think he thought I was like cute at one point I can just tell by the way he passes me in the house he's like you're disgusting yeah yeah so how is it so so like has he at any point been like hey how about let's take it easy on the eagles because max wants you you got to take it easy on the eagles every fucking day okay every day he's like stop okay what do you because what happens is kev's group chats blow up because they hate like his he's like no one likes you anymore like we don't have friends my brother-in-law is like they don't even call my kids to wish him happy birthday because i had them you know yeah look here's like you guys know i understand what happens in philly when i report this stuff i don't do it and go oh max is gonna flip out like you guys have known me for so long i actually said the opposite i said that you do do that You think about Max laughing.
1:18:36Memes, yes. Memes. I think about the Jets. I haven't even typed the word Jets this year. You said that you moved on to the Eagles. You just replaced all your Jets negativity with Eagles stuff. The worst part is that it doesn't look like she's wrong. It looks like you're right. Well, yeah, she's a reporter. I know. But Memes' whole thing was he would say that she's wrong. I never said that she was wrong. I just don't like that you're reporting. I like that the booth is just figuring out that Diana's not just reporting random things and just actually. I never said that. I know. Max, if anyone knows that I am talking to people, it's you.
1:19:17You sat next to me on a five-hour flight and saw me. I mean, if you just looked over instead of sleeping, you would have seen so much action. My mind was focusing on staying alive. So I will say one of the things that is really hard in my house, like Kevin can see who I'm talking to. And I don't think it's appropriate or professional for me to show him the text from the players or the staff members or whomever it is that I'm talking to. But he wants to see it. So most husbands are looking in wise phones to see if there's dudes they're talking to. My husband's just looking for Eagles Intel. Like, he's just like checking all my stuff to see like, oh, so you didn't tell me that actually this one asked for a trade, you know, that didn't happen.
1:20:01But so, Max, bottom line, like friend to friend, we go back. It's not good. I know it's not good. I know it's not good. Who could have ever seen this coming that the Eagles, if they have like a couple down weeks, the fans flip out on the reigning Super Bowl champions and then want everybody fired. We never could have seen that coming, Max. I haven't said that yet. Diana, last question, because this is the important one we also got into. Can the Eagles trade A.J. Brown? What is the cap? Okay, so right now, I will tell you, because it just was something that I was part of the last few hours, they are not trading him.
1:20:41Okay? Okay. But look, it's right now. What happens in the next few weeks if A.J. makes this thing so impossible to deal with that Howie goes, all right, this has now become a problem. This is a cancer. Players don't like each other. Too many people want the ball. This can't work. And he says, all right, well, let's do this. Let's move it. They could do it. It would cost them a lot. But I can tell you, people around the league that are kind of watching it have been saying that the only way Howie does this is if he thinks that he can get a player who is immediately going to be better than AJ in a position of need, right?
1:21:20So you guys need pass rush. you need a corner it would you take that like max would you be willing to give away aj brown for an elite pass rusher i don't understand the cap that's my whole thing can they treat doesn't wouldn't that just fuck us for the next two years they can do it just yes so then why like how how how could you be put in a better situation with less money and no aj brown like i don't under From a business standpoint, it doesn't make sense. It wouldn't be smart. But teams do this all the time. Teams eat it constantly, and they just push it down. They move the ball down the field, so to speak, of going, oh, we'll deal with it later.
1:22:02Kick the can is actually the term I was looking for. So, yeah, the cap is the thing that is going to keep you calm, that it won't happen. I just think you're crazy if you don't think, if it turns bad, that it couldn't happen. It's just something you've got to watch. Am I freaking you out? A little bit. He's freaked out. He just doesn't understand the cap. The cap freaks me out in general. It annoys me. I don't know. What she said is you can do it, you would be in cap hell. But then we don't know what cap hell looks like. But wouldn't that, like, I understand teams do that for, like, Russell Wilson because Russell, like, he's a bad quarterback.
1:22:40A.J. Brown is still a good wide receiver. So it's like it makes so little sense to me that you would give up a good player and choose to go into Cap Hell and make your team worse. Why would it make your team worse? Because would you agree that your team actually isn't using A.J. Brown in the best way? Yes. Yes. I agree. The identity of the Eagles offense doesn't exactly include A.J. Brown. They are a run-first team. They're a run-heavy. But they can't even run the ball. They're struggling. Well, the offensive line is what, when I talked to the Giants after that game, I was like, what's your quick thought on the Eagles?
1:23:27They're like, they're beat up up front. Something's not right. They're injured. They missed Makai Becton. And they're just older. And I know we say that every year and they're always able to overcome it, but I think this may be the year where it's just hard. Yeah. Can we commit to if the Eagles win this week, can you try to write like one positive thing about the Eagles next week just to be like, hey, the team, they're playing really fucking hard and they beat the shit out of those pussies, the Vikings. Yeah. Like something to get Max fired up. All the Bird fans fired up. I thought you were going to say if the Eagles win, can I have sex with a cat?
1:24:01Yeah. What about this? What about just writing if the Eagles win, just maybe in your notes, just be like, maybe it was just a blimp in the radar. No, because it's not. It's not. Trust me. Like, I call Philly before I put this stuff out, and I think they know, we know, and it may be worse. So you're saying it's not a blimp in the radar? It is not. I said blimp in the radar instead of blimp, and he's trying to make fun of me. Max has been saying blimp in the radar his entire life. Everyone has those things where they have sayings wrong. I just said kick the ball down the What did I say? Blimp is way funnier Blimp on the radar is very funny That's because I said it Because a blimp could be in a radar It would just be really big Nothing's worse than OBGYN I love you Hank It's my favorite one It makes me love you more You're not even that person anymore Hank You're so savvy and smart now Hey Hank Wait real quick sorry not to take up more time How about them Patriots?
1:25:07I know. It's exciting. He's been swagging on all of us. He's feeling himself. This Sunday's going to be good against the Titans. We're Benji. We're going to go nuts. Yep. Yep. Happy for you. You don't know what it's like to win, so I feel it. Finally. Thank you. Yeah. Rebuilding's tough, but it's good to be on the other side. All right, Diana, you're the best. Thank you for answering the bat signal there. Calling in like a talk show. Go Bears, buddy. I'm happy for you. Thank you. Appreciate it. See you. All right. That's Diana Rossini. She's a very good reporter. The booth just now figuring out that she reports.
1:25:40I never said that she was. Maybe at one point said that it was wrong. Yeah. All right. So this game, by the way, what she mentioned, there's stats to back it up. The Saquon Barkley running behind Landon Dickerson and Mekhi Becton last year. 6.1 yards per carry. Saquon Barkley running behind a hurt Landon Dickerson and Brett Toth or Tyler Steen 3.7 yards per carry. So there's the difference. And the Vikings are not great against the run. They allow 132 rushing yards per game. Just get the running game going. Just run the football, Max. I would love that. Run the damage. Give him a Saquon. I would love that.
1:26:18You know what you need? This is the cure for everything that he'll do. You need a classic like Jalen Hurts under 100-yard passing game. He doesn't throw the ball at all. maybe gets like two tush pushes, and Saquon goes off for like 150. What we need is we haven't had one Saquon 75-yard touchdown this year. We need Saquon to break one and then really just get the juices flowing. This is a massive, massive game. It's the game. It's the season. The top five hardest remaining schedules, Vikings are one and Eagles are three. Which is insane because we've had a hard schedule. But you won the Super Bowl.
1:26:57yeah that shouldn't matter just first place winning the Super Bowl doesn't make it any well you play the hardest schedule because you were first place first place does that work I thought it was just divisional first place it's a hard schedule yeah but like I don't know Texans I guess Texans have I don't know. Fuck it. Whatever. I don't care. You know what? You won the Super Bowl last year. Yeah. You can deal with it. It's a blimp on the radar. This is a game. Game of the season. Let's get to the afternoon. Three games in the afternoon. We've got the Colts and the Chargers. Boys, I'm ready to say it right now.
1:27:46The Colts are very, very good. I'm ready to sell on the peak of the Colts. You're selling right now. I'm selling in this game only. Is that because of the uniforms that the Chargers are wearing? It is not. I hate those uniforms. The yellow, the piss yellow uniforms. It is because. The Charger power uniforms. It is because we're at the point in the season where you can start looking at body of work. And again, I think the Colts are very good. I'm not selling on them for the season. I'm just selling them this game. The Colts have beaten Tua, Bo Nix in that game that the Broncos kind of pissed away.
1:28:22Cam Ward, Geno, and Jacoby Brissett. I think Justin Herbert's a lot better than all those guys. I also am worried about the Colts secondary with Chardavius Ward not practicing because of that concussion. Kenny Moore is working back from an injury. Jalen Jones, they could be down again, their top three corners. And you saw Jacoby Brissett threw for over 300 yards against them. He looked good. Yeah, so I'm selling them for this game only. I'm selling them. I think the Chargers are going to win this game. I mean, it's almost like a bust win for the Chargers, too. The Chargers, they've been down. I do like the Chargers this weekend.
1:29:02The Colts, I'm not selling them at all over the long term. Yeah. I even think they'll be competitive in this game. Correct. But I don't know which side to take against the spread, but I think it's like two kind of evenly matched teams. One is a little bit more desperate than the other. Yes. And Khalil Mack is starting his practice windows opening back up. That's good for him. What about Joe Alt? Joe Alt. I do not know what's going on with Joe Alt. Is he coming back soon? That would be a big possibility that he's back. Joe Alt would be a big, big thing for the Chargers to get back. Joe Alt. Let's look.
1:29:41Oh, yeah. There's optimism about Joe Alt. He did not practice. Khalil Mack was limited. But there's optimism that both could be back. that'd be huge that would be enormous for this game uh is this the first time that we've had an nfl team have a starting quarterback from duke and a backup quarterback from duke maybe i if you can call riley leonard uh a duke guy which he is he is a duke guy kind of a notre dame guy but yeah he's duke guy double duke he's duke yeah i don't know that we've ever had that before don't duped up yeah i kind of like the chargers in this game i really like the chargers in this game i do i really like the chargers and i really like the browns that's gonna be pain browns though i i love the browns this week should we just go heavy on the browns and root like we're like they're our team i'm rooting for the wind yeah uh speaking of teams pft your team game of the week commanders of cowboys yeah commanders are our two and a half point favorites The over-under is all the way up to, is it 55.5 still?
1:30:4754.5. Yeah. They're expecting a lot of points. So I took the over earlier this week. I forget the number that I got, but I took it on like Tuesday morning. Sometimes you just got to bet yourself out of a depression. And I woke up on Tuesday morning feeling bad about my team. So I was like, let's get back on the horse. Let's take the over already on that game because it's going to be just points on top of points. And then the week went on, and then Debo's not practicing. and then Terry is also not practicing. And if we don't have Debo or Terry against the Cowboys, that would mean that our starting – and Noah Brown is on the IR now.
1:31:20Okay. So that would mean that our starting receivers would be Luke McCaffrey, Jalen Lane, the rookie, and maybe Chris Moore. Okay. So that's not a recipe for the over right there. But the Dallas defense is really bad. But, again, those three would be our starting receivers. And I'm a believer in Luke. Remember, the Dallas defense is really bad. I'm a believer in Luke, but I don't know that he's like a number one threat. But he still should be able to light up this Dallas defense. They're that bad. I mean, ideally, you would be able to with nobody at receiver. And you could run. I mean, Rico Dattel just went off.
1:31:54It's a lot of firepower that we'd be missing. So I'm a little bit nervous. This is definitely a must win for us because if we lose this, then the Chiefs and the Lions afterwards, like you could be looking at four losses in a row right there. Yeah. I got a blind resume for you guys. You ready for it? Mm-hmm. QB1. 78 49 and one QB to 78 49.
1:32:15Dak Prescott and Tony Romo. Yes. Bang. That's good. That's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Dak. Pretty crazy that they're that that it's literally that tie. They you know. That's the only difference between their records right now. Dak is playing like an MVP right now. He is. He's really really good. I have a prediction for this game though. Okay. I think either George Pickens, Lattimore, or maybe both will get ejected. This seems like a fight game. Is CeeDee Lamb going to be back? I think he's close. Officially back. Officially back? Okay. Okay. Don't like that. Nope. The only good injury news that the Commanders have is that Sam Cosme is going to play, which is big.
1:32:59Which is big at guard. That is good. He's an awesome player, and I'm glad that he's back. but yeah the the top three receivers potentially being out has me i'm i'm in my feelings right now uh are you worried about the sun at all not worried about the sun because it is an afternoon game we can handle the sun this is the dallas game they asked brian schottenheimer about the sun and uh he said if you guys could see the process and the plan we have in place to figure out we have satellite imaging we have pictures of the sun when it's coming down there's a big plan and process but i think when you look at historically at what's happened it really hasn't affected many situations we plan for it the opponents plan for it but the end of the day it's something we're very aware of it's very beautiful it's majestic when the sun comes through there yeah so he a lot of talk about the sun they have an astrologist on staff satellite imaging satellite to know where the sun is where the sun's setting okay the sun i think it sets in correct me from the same place every day yes correct okay so they could just walk outside and see where the sun is correct uh no i'm I'm not concerned about the sun.
1:33:59I think the sun affects both teams. Both teams have to play under the sun. Yes. That's just a fact. I am concerned, though, about the health of the team and about our defense against that offense. A must-winner can't lose. It's both. Okay. It's both. Wow. Yeah, we must not lose. We can't must not lose this game. That's big. Yeah. I mean, if you look at the commanders right now and how they've been playing recently, it's hard to have confidence in the season if they lose this game yeah all right so must win can't lose yep must win can't lose all right uh last afternoon game the packers and the cardinals the packers are six and a half point favorites uh the over under in this game is 45 and a half oh actually no we have one more i forgot the giants and broncos we gotta hit that as well Jonathan Gannon what a quote they asked him this week when did he like learn to take emotion out of coaching and he said 2007 when our quarterback went to jail so there it is then he got up and just walked away that was the mic drop of his press conference there's really no follow up to that everyone's like oh yeah I remember that this feels like a game that the Packers should win handily if they're going to be for real for real would you agree yeah i would agree do we know pressure on the packers i would never want to do that if you were the cardinals would you rather have kyler starting or jacoby brissette starting this weekend jacoby jacoby probably jacoby probably jacoby probably it looked different with jacoby yeah probably but we know jacoby's also not very good yeah so but but the offense looked better with jacoby yeah they said it's leaning jacoby okay leaning jacoby this weekend Jordan Love, by the way, he is first in yards per attempt in a clean pocket and last under pressure.
1:35:52So got to heat up the quarterback. There's my key to the game. And then he starts to drift. Yeah, then he starts to drift. He drifts hard. He's a hard drifter. He looks like when I play Madden. I feel bad because I've been talking a lot about Marvin Harrison not breaking tackles on this podcast. I should also highlight the fact that Marvin Harrison Jr. this year is elite at drawing pass interferences. So that's almost like a tackle broken. I think he's like second in the league in terms of yardage gained on pass interferences, but he might not play this weekend. He's in the concussion protocol.
1:36:21So yeah, the Packers got to kill him. They should. They should. Colts or sorry, Giants and Broncos. I kind of like love the Giants in this game. Giants are plus seven. The over under is 39 and a half. Plus seven with the low, low total. I feel like we're not giving enough credit for the Giants offense just being significantly better now that they don't have Russell Wilson play. Yeah, I also feel like Jackson Dart is the type of quarterback that Sean Payton's just kind of in love with from a distance. Yeah. I think he just watches him. He's like, damn, I would love to coach that kid. He's got his own at home.
1:37:00He's got Bo Nix, who he's obsessed with. But I do feel like he's probably watching Jackson Dart just late night, 2 a.m. He can't sleep. Let's watch some Giants film. Check this out. This is, I don't know. I just have a feeling because the Broncos, big win against the Eagles, got to fly to London, got to fly all the way back. The Giants off of mini-buy. Now the numbers don't back this up. The Broncos is home favorites in the Bo Nix era. They are 8-0 straight up. They're 7-1 against the spread, 32.3 points per game, 12.3 points per game allowed. So they've been killing teams at home in the Bo Nix era.
1:37:36Yeah, we got a game inside the game too. this weekend we got nick bonito yeah probably the best at his position yeah andrew thomas one of the best at his position yeah that's gonna be fun to see and they're in the broncos we talked about on sunday the broncos have 30 sacks on the season they're on pace to smash the record of the 84 bears and uh i don't know jackson dart though he's elusive camp scataboo yeah running out in people's faces you know what's crazy about scataboo the way that he plays i think everybody's like oh Mike Allstott, 2.0. Cam Scadaboo is 213 pounds. Yeah. He's not huge. No.
1:38:11He's just like super dense. And he's just super aggressive. He's a compact. Yeah. He's like one of the pit bulls that they overbreed to the point where they can't get off the ground, really. And there's just these jacked up, like, you know, the blue ones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's Cam Scadaboo. Yeah. He's just all muscle. Very. He's a bowling ball. I'm just happy that we can watch. Like, the Giants are a fun watch now. Very fun. You know? Like, there's the afternoon games this week. There's three fun watches. And who knows what will happen in the Packers-Cardinals game. But I'm excited to watch Colts-Chargers.
1:38:42Excited to watch Cowboys-Commanderers. Excited to watch Giants-Broncos. Three fun watches in the afternoon. All right, last game, Sunday Night Football. It is the 49ers and the Falcons. The Falcons are going to San Francisco. They are two-and-a-half point underdogs. Their over-under is 47-and-a-half. I think I'm starting to believe in the Falcons. yeah are you ready to do that with me yeah i i'm i've been ready i i said that the falcons were they were going to make the playoffs this year yeah before the season started i think they got too much talent at the key positions and uh i think i like michael pennix too a lot of it's just from watching when he was at college and he was just like the most accurate guy ever and he hasn't been great so far but he's been very good yeah and i think if he just realizes oh yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna find bajon out in the flat and let him do all the work for me that's a good formula and no fred warner fred warner that's a huge loss for the 49ers the kyle shanahan uh doing the injury report this week in his press conference it took him 32 seconds and six breaths to get through the five 49ers injury report six breaths six breaths that's not good can you what can you pull it up it was quite the injury report six breaths to get through the injury report kyle shanahan this week uh also the 49ers haven't been able to run the ball like as well like christian mccaffrey's still awesome but their interior o-line is not great and they just haven't been able to run the ball effectively to what they want to do here it is here's kyle shannon 32 seconds six breaths all right um injuries for today we got um y-tour knee hamstring will be out uh ricky knee will be out sky more ankle will be out trin williams vet day christian vet day jordan walkins calf limited brock purdy toe limited mac jones knee oblique limited pooney knee limited kevin givens pack limited juan jennings ankle rib shoulder limited renardo green neck limited cj west thumb limited george kittle hamstring limited clea davis hand limited michael williams thumb oh wait those guys are full go ahead yeah all right for today not great they're just so banged up fred warner seemed like it was the the breaking point for the niners yeah i mean that's they lost bosa and it's like oh as long as we have fred warner and now losing fred warner who's one of the best at his position if not best it's tough it's just like how many times can they get off the mat with all these injuries do we know who's starting a quarterback for him this weekend i don't i'm not sure and then the follow-up would be would it matter i don't know between between brock purdy and mac jones would it matter and maybe mac jones is playing better i don't think it matters that much at this moment did you know by the way the The Falcons defense has been very good.
1:41:20And Jeff Ulbrich, who maybe didn't have the best last year because he was the Jets interim head coach. And then, obviously, his son, prank called Shadour Sanders. Josh Allen's last three games that he has had two interceptions and four sacks, they were all at the hands of a Jeff Ulbrich defense. The Falcons on Monday night, the Jets 2023, the Jets 2022. So he's a pretty good defensive coordinator. The NFL's MVP has had his worst three games, basically, the last four years, all against Jeff Olberk. Mac Jones is trending to start. Okay. Trending to start. Okay. Because I feel like Brock Purdy, he came back way too fast from the toe.
1:42:01Yeah. Like a guy that maybe didn't want to lose his job. Yeah. But it's like you shouldn't lose your job to Mac Jones. Mac Jones has said it's Brock Purdy's job. Yeah. It's exactly what he should say. Yeah. Being a great backup. Did you know that the 49ers have Diamador Lenoir at cornerback? Yeah. And you know what his nickname is? No. It's the Hyena. Okay. Would it impress you any less to know that he gave himself that nickname? No, I think that plays. He said, I gravitated towards the Hyena after the Philly game when I made that big hit. My teammates were like, you need a name. I wanted to be an animal.
1:42:38I started looking back at all the animals. you got your honey badgers your bears your lions there ain't no hyena so that's how i came up with that i like that he's right he identified a gap in the market there's no hyena yeah he the hyena we don't see a lot of hyenas we don't i mean you need a hyena yeah if you had like if ever sometimes you just gotta laugh yeah right yeah uh okay let's do our jerry fantasy minute and then we'll do our picks and then we'll get to coach gruden and finish off with fire fest hyenas look nasty yeah all right this is our jerry o 'connell i emailed it to you max jerry o 'connell's fantasy minute which hopefully he kept it to a minute i i have not i as is tradition i do not click on it uh because i want to make sure that it's fresh for all of us when he sends it to me on wednesday night how's our fantasy team doing pft i believe we've lost two games so that'll make us four and two oh that's good four and two is pretty good yeah let's go four and two is pretty good come on jerry how about how about this year being the year jerry how about this year being the year i also like that jerry gives us he tries to give us actual fantasy advice during the fantasy oh this one oh wow he did a max remake oh the blue closet the blue closet put you on your headphones max Max, put him on.
1:44:02Max, for Jerry, put him on. You can hear it. I can hear it. Okay. Here we go. Jerry's face. I can't believe I have to do this right now, but it's my job. Start the music, memes. Start the music. I only have one minute. Start the music. Welcome to Fantasy Fuck Boys. Drop all the Jets. All of them. They suck. I'm sorry. I told everybody to pick up that tight end Taylor last week. That whole team has dropped them all. Pick up Pacheco. He's available in most leagues, and he is the lead back on a high-powered offense. Pick up Cade Otten and Sterling Shepard. You know Baker's going to throw it, and they're the only two receivers on Tampa this weekend.
1:44:52Jaden playing Medaillies. He's going to throw for four TDs against that Dallas D, and he's angry. He's angry. And Boswell, the kicker, Steelers is back. They got an offense. I did it. One minute. Fuck you, big cat. Call 1-800-GAMBLER, you fucking degenerate. RIP Diane Keaton. I did it.
1:45:16Just a quick fact check. Jerry's kids, the fantasy team, is actually three and three. Not as good. Yeah, we're right at 500. Not as good. All right, what are we doing for the TD parlay this week? We have been one short the last two weeks because of Amon Ross St. Brown. It's brought to you by DraftKings. Football season just got even better. Barstool is bringing you the game of the week every single week through the end of the regular season. Here's the deal. Every Friday we'll announce a game of the week from the Sunday slate of games. When the game of the week drops, all you have to do is share a bet slip on that game with the hashtag BarstoolGOTW through X or email, and you'll be entered for a shot to win one of five$1 ,000 bonus bets.
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1:47:01I'm going to go with George Pickens. Okay. All right, even though he might get rejected. I'm worried about that. Yeah, I'm a little worried about that. But CeeDee Lamb coming off an injury. I feel like George is the guy. But you close your eyes. You could see Lattimore and Pickens. I could. I know. Like really going at it. Should I switch to Ferguson? No, don't let me talk you out of it. Okay. You've been hot. Not with these, but yeah. Okay. I'm going to go with... We're going to go J.K. Dobbins. Okay. J.K. Dobbins. All afternoon sleep. Yeah. Let's hit this, boys. You bet on DraftKings, it is...
1:47:40Plus 720. 720. Okay. Let's go, boys. Hank, before we do our picks, do you want to share with the class what your hungry dog is going to be? Yeah, my hungry dog this week, it's going to be the Dallas Cowboys against the Washington Commanders. It's going to be the New Orleans Saints against the Bears and the Minnesota Vikings. Against the Eagles. You knew he was going to. Oh, you're going to say Eagles. Are you going to be wearing your hater sweater? No. That's a big game sweater. That's a Philly sweater. Listen, I actually prefer you do it this way because none of us can be like, you always pick against my, you're just picking against all of our teams.
1:48:18Yeah, it's personal for all of us. It is what it is. Yeah. I'm going to do the opposite. I'm going to bet on all of our teams. I like that. I like that, too. The fat cat parlay, the opposite. We're going to go ahead and play the Cowboys, so I can do that. I know the fat cat. Yeah, the fat cat. All right, let's do our picks. Memes in first with seven points. Then everyone else except PFT has six points and PFT has five points. We are exactly 500 as an entire show. I love that. That's actually good. Yeah. Four of us are six and six. Memes is seven and five. PFT is five and seven. Wow, boys. Way to go.
1:48:57All right. Who's up first? We're back at the top with Henry. Henry, let's go. All right. I'm happy I'm first because I figured this would not have got back around to me. I'm going to go with the over in Dolphins-Browns. Wow. Yeah. There's no way that would have gone back to you. That's a sharp play. Over 37 and a half. 36 and a half. Yeah. Oh, I'm looking right to go back up. I'm seeing 37 and a half. Oh, 37 and a half. That's a key number. Plus 100. It was 36 and a half at 20 minutes ago. Let's give him 37. Okay. That's fair. Yeah. Let's give you 37. Okay. All right. We also got to make sure everybody remembers their number when Shane sends a graphic.
1:49:38Three. Okay. Mean. I'm going to go with the over In Carolina Panthers and New York Jets 42 and a half Oh okay What was that Those are the two grossest games that we just went over On both of them I'm getting ugly I like it You got to get comfortable being uncomfortable No the Panthers are over team On the road Jet Jets variable I am going to go Browns minus two and a half. Fuck. I knew that. You jerk. It was a jerk move. Alright. You guys kept talking about how you liked it so I had to pick it before you guys got it. I would like to take in the Colts-Chargers game. The Chargers minus one and a half.
1:50:24God damn it. There's only two bets I love. Alright. Gotta find something else. That's fine. Hey, that's fine. Just gotta find something else. That's how the cookie crumbles. That's how the cookie crumbles. Wasn't my day. I'm going to go I'm going to go with the Rams minus three against the Jaguars. Okay. I guess I'll go Giants plus seven, and I will go with the under in Jets-Panthers. 42 and a half. It's a bad pick. Okay. We'll see. Head to head. I think it'll be 76 and Sonny. All right. I thought you were going to take mine. Oh. I'm going to take the under in the Browns Dolphins. Can I get 37 and a half?
1:51:10It stands at 37 and a half on the screen. Yes, definitely. So Hank only gets the pity half. That's the spread, Hank. I'm looking at the spread right now. What do you want me to not take the spread? No, you get 37 as well. Yeah. 37. No, no. Under 37 and a half. You both get 37. You both get 37 and a half. The spread is literally 37 and a half right now. I think BFT should get 37 and a half at the current spread. But it's minus 120 under. So that's the point. We'll do the 37. But have we ever done that before where we don't take the number that's listed? Well, we just did. Yeah, for Hank. We just did.
1:51:46Out of pity. Yeah. 37. Just go flat 37. That is a key number. It is. Under 36 and a half is minus 102. What? Okay. Hold on. I don't see that. I see under 37 and a half is minus 120. But if you go to the alternate, under six, like. Okay, let's go under. Oh, you're right. We're doing like CSI investigations into the numbers. Yeah, so it's 37. 37. You guys both have 37. Out of principle, I'm not going to take under 37. Okay. I like that principle. Yeah, it's a good principle. You got to stand for something. All right, so what are you going to take? In that case, I'm going to take. Oh, all right, let's make a deal.
1:52:24You get under 37 and a half. You get over 36 and a half. But if it lands on 37, you both get nothing. You both lose both of your picks. Deal. Deal. If it lands exactly on 37, you lose the other pick as well. No matter what. That seems like a terrible deal for me and Hank. Why? You get a better number? No, no. I'm saying you get over 36 and a half. Yeah. You get under 37 and a half. If it lands exactly 37, then you lose that pick. And our other pick. And our other pick. Your other pick. Oh, no. If it's lose that pick, I'm fine with that. But I'm not losing both picks for one. Okay, fine. If it lands 37, you lose that pick.
1:53:00Yeah, yeah. If it lands exactly 37. Okay, deal. Deal. I think that... Yeah, okay. Well, that also completely took away... It's fine. You basically just took under 37. And you didn't get the push. I took under 36 and a half. Yeah. There's too many numbers. You guys accepted, so we just have to move. Now I'm rooting for... I'm going exact score 37. I'm going to do this, but I also... I'm going to cash this bank error in at some other time in the season. If there's a dispute on the spread. Bet Zach 37. Yeah, if there's a dispute on the spread, I'm going to return to this. This isn't going to matter at all.
1:53:41No. All right, Zach. I would like to take the over in the Giants-Broncos game. Okay. Ooh, I would like to take the under in the Giants-Broncos game. Okay. I would like to take the Chiefs minus 11.5. That number is 40 and a half, by the way, for me and Zach. Hank, last pick. I would like to take the Arizona Cardinals plus six. I'm seeing 39 and a half. Oh, 39 and a half. Okay. Okay. All right. Plus six and a half. Plus six and a half. What? What, Max? All right. We had another line change in me and Zach's thing. But it's fine. I'll take the lower number. All right. Let's get to Coach Gruden, and then we'll finish up with Fyre Fest.
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1:56:08Also future coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks. How are you, let's start there, how are you going to coach six different college football teams next year? That's a strange introduction, Dan. You know, I have no idea how that'll happen, but I'm having fun, man. We are having a blast. Football season is in high gear. so it's got to be it's got to be at least uh it's nice to have your name mentioned with every job i know that you know that's i was i was half joking but like it's it's kind of nice that your name gets absolutely i absolutely love football i love it and it's pretty much all i all i have you know i have an office for the people that don't know i've got a server in there i just put a lot of money into a server that collects all the films and allows me to study them and who knows what'll happen but i'm preparing myself as always to coach but behind the scenes we're getting plenty of football i promise you yeah i know you love football and i know do you still do the gruden grinder yeah oh yeah we do that every week okay so who's who's a uh gruden grinder who's the one from last week that we well we do five grinders we had dan we had landman the linebacker for the rams 17 tackles uh devin white uh justin stranata the denver broncos and then we We had our first trios, three receivers for Tampa Bay, Tez Johnson, Cameron Johnson, and Sterling Shepard.
1:57:25Man, did they pick up the slack. And then three pass rushers for the Seahawks all had two sacks, Byron Murphy, Lawrence, and my guy Nwasu. So we had those as our Gruden grinders last week. How much do you love Baker Mayfield? Because we love Baker Mayfield. What does he do if you're thinking of it from a coach? Like, what does he do that is so special that gives you a chance every single week to win a football game? Yeah, we were on that Fox show and they asked me who I thought the MVP would be. And I said, if we did it today, it'd be Baker. And I just compare him to Brett Favre when we were in Green Bay.
1:58:03He brought life to the huddle, to the practice field. He gave the defense hope. If we just get the ball back for this guy, he'll figure it out. And then he's kind of a combination between Favre and Rocky Balboa. I mean, this guy takes punches, man. He gets hit. He keeps getting up. You take away his running back. You take away his two tackles. You take away all his receivers. You put them behind. He is a son of a bitch, man, when it comes right down to it. This guy grits it. He's all ball, and I love him. It's like the more shit you talk to him, the better he gets, too. He feeds off that. I would tell my guys, don't say a word to Baker because he'll use that against you somehow.
1:58:41Yep. He's got a chip on his shoulder. I mean, you know, you cut me, you cut me, you cut me. I'm going to cut you up. I kind of feel like I'm going to, you know, I'm going to get back at all you people for doubting me. He's a fun guy to be around. I went to watch the Bucs scrimmage the Titans. And you just watch him. It's a hot day. Nobody's having fun. It's the middle of training camp. And this guy's flying around having fun. He's just different. He's a weapon when it comes to energy, positivity, and hope. I love Mayfield. Yeah, great guy. I want to talk a little bit about the London games because we have them.
1:59:16It feels like every week now. You traveled over to London when you were the coach of the Raiders. I read a quote from you where you said that you're not a good traveler, that you get on an airplane. You said, I had vertigo for a month. I couldn't lay down. The house was spinning. I'm not a great traveler. I'll be honest with you. I hate it. I'm not good. I'm concerned. I'm more worried about that than our goal line offense right now. Yeah. When you were going over there. First of all, how did you end up doing on that trip? and uh second of all what's something that you were not ready for like an unexpected challenge that happened yeah it was the first time we went it was my first year back in coaching 2018 we weren't a very good team we played Seattle and I told people I said I don't want to go to London until I absolutely have to they said nah you should go a week before and get acclimated I said I don't need all that shit I said I don't want to go we went over there and got our brains beat in Now, the next time I went early and I gave ourselves time to get acclimated and we beat the Bears, one of our best performances.
2:00:13That was a good Bears defense. We went out and played very well, but it's a different, different deal. The flight home before you go, there's a lot of arrangements that need to take place. I don't like it personally. I don't know any coaches in the league that like it. Yeah, but I don't think anybody cares about coaches anymore. it's all about making money and believe me there's a lot of money to be made by playing these games that's why they're doing it yeah I saw that the Rams are going on Saturday morning which that feels weird so they stayed in Baltimore for the week they're going Saturday morning that just feels like there's no way that you can get your body clock and it's a double body clock because the Rams being on Pacific time it's like Rams fans they're going to have to wake up at 6.30 in the morning to watch football that's not a football time We played the Indianapolis Colts.
2:01:00It's the game Vontaze Burfecht got suspended and kicked out of the league. We beat the Colts in Indianapolis and flew out late that night to London. Yeah. And I remember being out there trying to do the game plans from a hotel room, getting acclimated to the time. I went off campus three days before the game, two days before the game, to try to get out of the hotel. I was getting a little stir crazy. I'm a little nuts. So me and my wife and a couple of my friends found this place off some ranch somewhere. We got some wild game. And I got sick so bad. I looked like a demon. My eyes were bloodshot red.
2:01:36It's a great experience flying over there to play football. Especially losing one of your home games. Yeah. I mean, you get eight home games, and now you got to give one up to play over there. That's six. Yeah. Let's talk about the Eagles. Because the Eagles are, it feels like they're in that situation where it's like, what's going on here? Are they going to hold it together? Is it going to be a replay of the year after they went to the Super Bowl in 2023 and they started hot and they fell apart? What's wrong with the Eagles' offense? What's wrong with the Eagles in general? And can they fix this so they don't have another situation where they go to the Super Bowl and then they get, you know, they made the playoffs next year, but they got killed by the Bucs on that playoff game?
2:02:19It's tough to repeat. I remember after we won the Super Bowl, we tried to keep that band together. I remember losing Jure Vicious and Allstott on the same play for the season in week two. The Eagles aren't the same team. The chemistry of the team is not the same. I'm looking around the league. I'm seeing Isaiah Rogers. I'm seeing Darius Slay. I'm seeing Josh Sweat, Milt Williams, some of their best players on that Super Bowl defense playing elsewhere. They're not as good because the players that won the Super Bowl aren't there. And offensively, Becton's gone. Dickerson at left guard has not been the same with that injury.
2:02:53You don't stay the same in pro football. You either get better or worse. Right now, they're not as good a team, and they don't look like they have a great chemistry. It just doesn't look like they care a lot about each other right now. But I'm hoping they wake up and snap out of the funk they're in. It hasn't looked good so far. Yeah, winning fixes a lot of that. You start winning games, then you start getting closer as a team. A team that doesn't seem like they're close right now is the Miami Dolphins and the players-only meeting that Tua was speaking about on Sunday after the game saying guys aren't showing up, they're showing up late for it.
2:03:28With a team like that, did you know when the players-only meetings were happening, and did you have a guy that was on the inside that was like, hey, coach, here's what we talked about in the players-only meeting? I think players-only meetings can be healthy to a degree. I think it's good for these guys to have a meeting. Sometimes go out there and run your own practice. See how easy it is. You know, let these guys have a little bit of ownership of how we operate. I think they can be very positive, used properly. But I think Miami's having a lot of these meetings out of desperation. You know, I think they're starting to point a little bit of fingers.
2:04:01But when your quarterback comes out and says things like that for the national media, that's an issue. Because he's got to walk in the building the next day and see the players. You know, and I think he's already apologized. I think he regrets saying those things. But where there's smoke, there's fire, and there's a lot of smoke down there in Miami. There is, yeah. Now, a team that's doing better than expected, especially offensively, the Dallas Cowboys. They look great on offense. And as an offensive guy yourself, what are you seeing from Dallas this season that's special about them? Because obviously their defense is one side of it, and they're going to play in a lot of shootouts, might lose a lot of those.
2:04:36But offensively, they're a great team right now. So what is it about the Cowboys this year that's better than it has been in the past? Well, they've been a good offense with McCarthy there, too. Now, they have not been a poor offense. They've not had much of a running game. They've found a little bit of it with Javante Williams. But Dak Prescott, he is a straw that stirs the drink down there, man. I mean, C.D. Lamb's not even playing. They score 40 points against Green Bay. C.D. Lamb's not playing. They're able to move the ball and function at a high level. You've got to give Schottenheimer credit, but they've got a lot of high picks on that offensive line.
2:05:10Ferguson's a really good tight end. that doesn't get a lot of notoriety. Pickens is a badass. You know, he's starting to really concentrate and get some consistency, and he is a talented dude now. And Prescott can still get out of trouble. He can recognize looks at the line of scrimmage, premier competitor, and man, is he throwing the ball, and they play in perfect conditions. You know, they get to play indoors, and they're going to score points. I expect the Cowboys and the Bears to do something at the trade deadline. Go get a chub. Go get a pass rusher. Go get somebody that gives your team juice, hope, and energy.
2:05:47Yeah, pass rusher in Dallas. That would be a crazy combination. Yeah. Are we just spinning our wheels, though? Is it the Chiefs again? Because it feels like the Chiefs, they're 3-3. They started slow. They're fine. They're better than fine. Their offense looks like it has the explosiveness back to it. Does it feel like part of the time I'm like, Like, I'm so glued to the NFL, and I'm so invested in it every single week, and I have to take a step back and be like, the Chiefs are just going to be in the Super Bowl again. I don't know if they'll win the Super Bowl, but they'll be in the Super Bowl again.
2:06:18Does it not feel that way? Yeah, we talked about it on a previous show we did. I think Andy Reid, the way they practice, has a lot to do with their success. I went up there for five or six days two years ago. I mean, they're hitting each other. They're live periods. They're putting guys on the ground. They play real old-school training camp football when they're in pads. And when you look at the Chiefs right now, they don't have anybody hurt. Rashi Rice is coming back. I'm worried about Simmons, their left tackle. Where is he? What's the issue? But Mahomes is playing at a high level, man. And when you've got Andy Reid and Mahomes and Spaggs coaching that defense, they're going to be in it.
2:06:54If it's not for that 99-yard return by Jacksonville and Kelsey mishandling that ball against Philly, they're 6-1. They're 5-1. I mean, it's a good football team. So which team should be more concerned right now? The Philadelphia Eagles at 4-2 or the Buffalo Bills at 4-2? I think the Bills. I think the Eagles, after winning the Super Bowl with the nucleus of players they have, I would be less concerned than them. Buffalo's got to get to the Super Bowl and win it, and then they can deal with some adversity then. But Buffalo's defense, they just don't look good to me. They've had some injuries in the secondary at linebacker.
2:07:33Ed Oliver just came back. they really don't have the firepower outside you know since gabe davis and stefan left town uh they throw a lot of quick screens to shakir in the slot the tight ends are a factor now but offensively they don't have the weapons uh that they once had and i think they're a good team i just don't know if they're a great team yeah yeah i feel i i i feel that way too it just it's frustrating to watch because the bills when they look good they're awesome and then you have games like that maybe it's just i don't know they got to get healthy but at some point like you can only say so many times you tell me this like as a coach yeah health obviously matters you lose a guy but at some point you got to just look in the mirror and be like hey we have what we have we're not going to get like this not gonna be a magic health button that gets all our guys back from week one figure out a way yeah i think the game that really opened my eyes was the patriot game when new england went up there and won and it's not just them winning it's how they won they went in there they they played man-to-man coverage they went up there in keon coleman's face joshua palmer's face they played press coverage man-to-man and they make it hard for josh allen to scramble around when you can cancel out some of these gaps but i i think buffalo is a team that could use a a wide receiver to come in and give them some juice as well yeah so if you had to pick it today if you had to call it do you think the bills are still winning that division or do you think the patriots have i think the bills will win that division i still think new england has a lot of youth on their offense, particularly on that left side of the offensive line.
2:09:07I still like Buffalo to win the division, but New England has narrowed the gap. Yeah, they have. Sure. Another team in the AFC that I feel like has been right at the top for the last, I don't know, 25 years, the Ravens. It feels like we're not as concerned about the Ravens. We're like, they'll figure it out. Somehow Harbaugh will figure this out. Are they in a position where you think they're able to figure it out, or are their problems, their flaws so deep that they're just not going to be a great team this year. Man, I was there in the preseason, and I thought they were going to go to the Super Bowl and potentially win it.
2:09:39They looked that good. Now, when you take away as many players from their team that they have on IR now are out, it's almost mind-boggling. Ronnie Stanley doesn't play. Matt Abike, their best defensive tackle's out. Roquan's out. Lamar Jackson's out. I mean, it's a completely different football team. And I do think the way they lost a couple of those games uh detroit pounded them they you know they ran it right down their throat and then losing that 15 point lead to buffalo i think they have some scars they have five number one picks in their secondary a couple of them haven't done much uh they're not the same raven team they got a long way to go yeah and we've been saying season from hell did you have a season from hell like that where it's like everything bounced the wrong way and there's something about that where you can just have those seasons where it's like you didn't get a break and it's not that you were the worst team you just never got the break you needed yeah i mean i can vividly remember we scored touchdown last play of the game to beat carolina it's nine to nine it was a slugfest we had just beat the philadelphia eagles in philly and we get the extra point blocked and then we go in overtime and lose i remember peyton manning we got a 35 to 14 lead with six minutes left they return a kickoff to our one yard line they get an onside kick all hell breaks loose the sheriff shoots me dead you know you lose some games and you lose some players and some other teams now around the league are getting better and better and better yeah the league is not set up for you to maintain a dynasty you win the super bowl you pick 32nd you win the super bowl you got six players that want more money and deserve more money you play a really hard schedule a harder schedule uh so there are a lot of issues and then if you compound it with injuries bad breaks and some of these referees give you some bad calls man uh you can lose your mind and get a lot of gray hair and coaching yeah would you have referees that would apologize to you in the game and say hey sorry we booted that one we fucked that up and then you understand that you're going to get a makeup call or makeup calls a couple times yeah it's happened a couple times they make you smile as a coach or were you still like fuck this guy yeah i never really got along with any of the officials on game day you know yeah yeah um they got a tough job don't get me wrong but some of these games are being decided by pass interference calls you see them at the end of the game very specific judgment calls are are deciding some of these close games and that's just the way it's going to be yeah yeah oh go ahead i was going to say like as a quarterback guy yourself we we try to watch cam ward play on the titans and we try to evaluate is he good is he not good we don't know it's impossible for us to tell because the the situation that he's in obviously in tennessee has not been good this year for him he's been very good at evaluating himself he said we asked he was correct about that he gave himself an f in terms of grading himself for the season i like that he's tough on himself but is there anything that you've seen from cam ward this year that you're like this guy's got something i can build with this guy I saw Cam against Tampa in the preseason scrimmage.
2:12:43He's got a great arm. He can throw it off platform. He's got all the crazy releases. I just think he's a little bit too casual back there, too laissez-faire. I think his fundamentals are inconsistent. Their protection plan, I don't know if he's responsible for it. The center's not making the calls. Not only has he been sacked 25 times, they're not recognizing blitzes. They're missing hot receivers. They don't audible enough. When you're the quarterback, you take the bullets, man, whether you're a rookie or not. This is the number one pick in the draft. This offense has struggled. He's got to take a big piece of the pie.
2:13:20Yeah. Falcons look for real. Can I start believing in the Falcons? Because every time I've ever believed in the Falcons, they burn me. But their defense is good. Bijan might be the best running back in the league this year. Drake London. Kyle Pitts is doing okay. Is it safe for me to, when you watch the tape, are you like, this team is doing things the right way, they're going to sustain some success this year, or am I going to fall for it again? I like them, man. I like them. I'm really impressed. After they lose 30-0 to Carolina, I think everybody was on their ass. You know, this is a bad team, typical Falcons.
2:13:58But what they did coming back, beating Washington, going on a bye, and coming back and taking it to Buffalo on national television. There's a lot of enthusiasm, a lot of confidence. Mike Penix, man, I'm telling you, this guy is a very talented cat. He can really spin it. And Drake London is starting to play like Andre Johnson. He's starting to play physical. That touchdown that he scored against Buffalo on the last play of the first half. Well, he didn't score. He didn't score, but it was a great Andre Johnson-like effort. And Kyle Pitts is showing why he was the top ten pick. When they get Darnell Mooney back, remember Mooney had almost 1 ,000 yards to really blow the top off.
2:14:37I think they have a lot of firepower, man. Bichon special. And Algiers comes in fresh as a daisy. I'm not saying it's Montgomery and Gibbs, but it's pretty damn close. Yeah. In the defense, we call these guys the blank squad. Nobody knows their name. I mean, you talk about Zach Harrison and this doorless guy and Orororo. I mean, Diablo and Ellis. They play their asses off, man. And I wouldn't want to play these guys. Jeff Ulbrich has done a great job. Raheem Morris did this in L.A. when he was the defensive coordinator. You remember this. They find all these young guys. Bryant Young at Tennessee, he comes in.
2:15:16He's a badass. You know, they get Verse, Fisk, all these guys. They come in, and they become formidable, and that's what they're doing in Atlanta. I like hearing you say, oh, roar, roar, roar. It sounds like a cartoon dog. I know. Oh, roar, roar, roar. number nine number four row row row that's good that's great um i i want to ask you something it might give you an aneurysm it might make your head hurt uh-oh uh because i can i can tell it's something that would frustrate you to no end you ever have a guy that was about to score a touchdown and just dropped the ball on the one inch line before he crossed the line that ever happen to you i'm sure something like that has happened we played the dallas cowboys on monday night football and we threw a pass never forget it freddie solomon uh caught the ball just go down so we can clock it or go out of bounds so we can kick the field goal we had a guy run run out some time where we were unable to do that uh but i can't remember i can't remember that what would you do yeah what yeah or when it happens in the league do you then that week show your guys being like don't fucking do this.
2:16:22We always try to do that. There are lessons to be learned in wins and losses. Hey, look how Philadelphia lost this game. Look how Cincinnati won this game. And we have coaches that would have responsibilities if that pertained to them. You're the two-minute expert. You're the short yardage goal line expert. You're the blitz expert. We might show seven or eight examples of quarterbacks getting killed because the other team doesn't know how to pick up a blitz. Get your shit together. Learn how to pick these four-week blitzes up. So, yes. But for that to happen twice in a matter of two weeks, that's unbelievable.
2:16:59But there's an old saying, and Peanut Tillman made it famous, the peanut punch. And he was most dominant in blind pursuit situations. I mean, you're walking to your car. You're just thinking you're going to open. Kaboom! You know, you get that ball punched out, and that's what's happening. If you don't finish the play, you're going to get victimized because somebody's coming. Yeah. You know, so that's what's happening in these instances. I got a non-football question for you. How in the world do you have a right-hand man and assistant in Jake Malisek, who is 25 years old, 26 years old, and he had never been to a freaking concert until last week?
2:17:40How is that possible? You're a music guy. You love going to concerts. You know, Malisek's interesting, big cat. He's a weirdo. This guy went to boarding school, you know. This guy comes from a different planet. Yeah. Doesn't use soap? I don't know about that. No, I know about that. I don't know. That has to be confirmed by me. I have not sensed. Confirmed. What do you mean confirmed by you? I don't smell a guy that doesn't use soap. He doesn't use soap. He doesn't. He's admitted this. Confirmed. He's admitted this. Officially confirmed. I'll tell you about this guy, though, Malisek. He is worldly.
2:18:11He knows lacrosse players. He knows football, basketball. I mean, we played trivia. He's my guy. Yeah. He knows everything. But he doesn't know musicians. He's never been to a concert. How's that possible? There's not a lot of people I would want to go see in concert these days either. It's not like when we were kids, man. We'd go see Bob Seger, and then we'd get a ticket to go see Van Halen. Holy shit, ACDC's in town. I mean, there was a lot of concerts to go to. What concert would you go want to see? Right now? Yeah. I went and saw, we had these guys, Goose, come in. Who? The name of the band's Goose.
2:18:45They were really good. I saw Dead & Company at the Sphere in April. I saw ACDC over the summer at Soldier Field. ACDC was awesome. They're still doing it. I buy that. Goose, I don't know. Oasis. Oasis. No, we're boycotting them, remember? Yeah, we're boycotting them. Because of the London game. Yeah. What song would you listen to to get fired up in your office before? It's always Shoot to Thrill by ACDC. Hair of the Dog by Nazareth. Yeah. That's a good. Unchained by Van Halen. That's some good ones. I kind of go back there. Yeah. I like that song, Dude Looks Like a Lady by Aerosmith. Yeah. Yeah, anything by ACDC.
2:19:20Put that on. I'm ready to go. It's a cheat code. I like that one song, Come to Papa by Bob Seger. Yeah. I like Bob Seger. Bob Seger's great. Which last concert you went to? I went to ACDC in Tampa. Yeah. Raymond James Stadium. So you're a concert guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I saw REO Speedwagon a couple years ago. That was pretty cool. Yeah. I like the classic rock bands. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, I do too. A lot of them are no longer touring or no longer around. To Bickett's point, though, what would you do if you had a player that refused to shower, that didn't use soap? Refused? Yeah, refused. He will not use soap.
2:19:54Coach, I will not use soap. I don't need soap, Coach. I would put him on another bus, probably. Depends on how many sacks he got. I think you're giving a guy a bad rap, man. No, I mean, he's admitted to this. Yeah, he does it himself. He does. Go ahead, Jake. Makes my skin feel dry. It makes his skin feel dry, he says. Let's get a word with our sponsor. I'm good here. I'm all right. He's a weird guy. How's the booth smell now, guys? Do we smell good, Max? Yeah, we're having a good booth smelling day. Okay, all right. So the booth smells good. But that is your guy. He's the guy that you got to rely on.
2:20:31The guy's very, very good, man. I wouldn't trade him. I wouldn't trade Jake for nothing. We like to give him shit, though. Yeah, especially. It is fun to give him shit. With UVA football being so good this year, you got to cut him down. It's getting a little bit insane. I like the way Virginia's playing, but their schedule is pretty good. Yeah, is there a quarterback in college that you've got your eyes on that you're like, ooh, man, this guy. I like Mendoza. Yeah. I like Mendoza at Indiana. I like him a lot. You know, I went to the Manning camp, and this kid at Washington, Williams, you watch out for this guy.
2:21:01A mom Williams, Jr., yeah. You know, he had 500 yards of total offense last week. I like Sam Leavitt at Arizona State quite a bit. I like Nussmeyer at LSU. I'm still waiting I'm still kind of waiting for somebody to knock my socks off Yeah Yeah it does feel like this is the year where it could be Well Aller was disappointing with the injury You know And Cade Clubnick got off to a rough start I was expecting a lot more from them But you know Ty Simpson I love Ty Simpson I think right now he and Mendoza are the top two guys Ty Simpson could win the Heisman Trophy Awesome He's not making everyday throws now He's pushing it down the field He's getting out of trouble.
2:21:40He's got a soul about him, man. I think his team loves him. Yeah. And he's also, he's that type of guy, like, third and long. I trust you. Yeah, when you go to Georgia and win and eliminate Georgia's longtime home winning streak, and the way he did it. He's a dog. He is a dog. He's a coach's son. I've had a chance to meet him. He came down to our office. He's the real deal, man. Yeah. What do you think about Arch down in Austin? I like Arch. I think that was a signature win for him against Oklahoma. Okay. Down the stretch, they're 10 for 13 on third down. The touchdown pass on third and eight from the 12-yard line.
2:22:15He ends the game with a scramble. I think that's a great launching pad for Arch. So you're buying stock on Arch. You haven't sold longer. I've never sold any stock in him. I was disappointed, obviously, because the expectations are so high. You open up at Ohio State against Matt Patricia. It's not like Arch had a ton of tape to study on Matt Patricia. That's about as hard as it gets for anybody. But I think this is going to be a great launching pad for Manning. I expect him to really take off now. Yeah, what do you think about the Giants? We saw a great performance from them on Thursday. An exciting performance.
2:22:49That was a fun game to watch with Scott Abou and Dart out there, just like running into everybody, going face first into linebackers. It was a fun game to watch. Are you sold on Dart? Because I know that you had him in your office, right? You guys watched some tape together. I mean, he's got a lot of the intangibles that you just really want in your locker room. And he's athletic and he's an armed talent guy. He can do a lot. He's smart. He's a competitive guy. I'm not shot in the ass with him yet. They went to New Orleans and have five straight turnovers on five straight possessions. They failed miserably.
2:23:22They beat the Chargers. I think they had 66 yards passing. The Chargers were decimated on offense. I liked what they did against Philly, but that was a real short week. I want to see it now. I want to see him go to Denver. They've had a couple extra days to prepare. They're going up against a hell of a defense that's going to force Dart to do some things at the line of scrimmage. But I will say this. He's got to keep his head out of this tackling. He's got to be smarter when he's running around. Twice he's been in that concussion tent. They've got to make sure they keep him healthy. He's got to keep himself healthy.
2:23:55I think sometimes he watches his teammates scatterboot run, and he's like, I want to do that. That looks like the crowd's getting into it. because there was one point in the game on Thursday when Scatterboo was just running people over and that Dart kept it, went on a scramble, saw a safety, and he just leapt headfirst into the safety to try to knock him out, try to get involved in whatever Cam's got going on. He needs to be a little bit smart. Just keep your head out of the tackle, right? I mean, they could have fined Dart for that. Yeah. I've seen runners get fined for lowering their head using the helmet as a weapon.
2:24:26Look, the quarterback's the only guy that can't play with a sore right shoulder or a broken right finger. And when you get into the concussion protocol, you can be out for a couple weeks. Availability is the number one ability you got to have. And the Giants need dart more than any other team needs a quarterback. He has really brought life to this franchise. Yeah, yeah. All right, I got one last question for you, Coach. Always great having you come by. Rowback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Rowback.com. Promo code TAKE.
2:25:00We're six weeks into the NFL season. Week seven coming up. I think we asked for your Super Bowl winner before the season. I'm going to let you pick again right now. Who do you have in the Super Bowl? Who do you have winning the Super Bowl? I think I had Baltimore and Green Bay. Before the season, you're saying? Before the season. And what do you have? You can amend now. I really like Tampa Bay, honestly. Yeah. I like Tampa Bay. They're doing it with mirrors right now. They've got some really good players about to return. The quarterback's having an MVP-type season. I think the Seattle Seahawks are a sleeper.
2:25:35I think this defense is really pretty good. You're high on Sam Darnold. I'm high on Sam Darnold, man. I like Jigba Smith a lot. I think they've got a couple good backs. They can close you out with a fourth-quarter pass rush. I like them a lot. And then in the AFC, I'm all in on Kansas City. I'm all in on the Chiefs. It's nuts how the more things change, the more they stay the same with the Chiefs. And when you bring up – you always bring up the green team, and now I'm looking out for the green team out there in the fourth quarter. And it's – who has the best green team in the NFL? Well, the Seahawks are pretty good, you know.
2:26:09I like, you know, in the AFC, you know, you look at Buffalo, you just don't see a lot of – you don't see a lot of consistency out of the team. But the best green team, I wanted to say, was going to be Green Bay with Parsons and, you know, you got 52 over there. You got Devontae Wyatt, Rashawn Gary. I just haven't felt them against Dallas, you know, a couple weeks ago. I wanted more against Cincinnati. You know, you got the lead, man. You're on defense. Close these guys out. That's going to be a – the Pittsburgh Steelers are another team that I'm really excited about. I think they have arguably the best fourth quarter pass rush.
2:26:44They got three N's that can kick your ass. Yeah. Wyatt's the best. This Herbig guy, I don't know where the hell they got this guy. Yeah. He's unbelievable. Yeah. And Highsmith's healthy. They got a lot of good blitzes, man, and they're not afraid to call them. And they got the guys in the back end that can cover you, Big Cat. Yeah. Slay. Jalen Ramsey plays free safety, corner, nickel. He's a badass, man. I mean, they got some guys. Deshaun Elliott's an intimidating presence in the middle of your defense. And I love Patrick Queen and Peyton, whatever his name is, Wilson, number 41. The Steelers, they're dangerous.
2:27:20They got a great fourth quarter pass rush. All right, Coach, you're the best. Always great seeing you. Love you guys, man. We love football. Remember that. We love football. Stay positive. The Bears, three straight wins, the Commanders. Come on, PFT. We've got to get some turnovers, man. Yeah, turnovers have been bad. Mikey needs to catch those balls. We need McLaren back, man. Well, I think we're getting him this week. Yeah, he's a different man. Points. Yeah, points. We need points. There's going to be so many points. Yes, I agree. 54 and a half is the number. I'm not panicking yet. I'm going on the over.
2:27:48If we lose this one, I might start to panic because then you got the Lions or the Chiefs, then the Lions afterwards. That might be an issue. And by the way, check out Coach Gruden's game previews. You do three a week. They're awesome. You strap in. It's like 45 minutes to an hour of a game. It's the best. You feel like you know every angle of the game when you're watching these game previews. So go watch them on YouTube. Thank you, guys. Yes. Thanks, Coach. Coach Gruden was brought to you by Morgan & Morgan. and fire fest of the week is going to be brought to you by morgan and morgan we all know life comes at you fast one minute everything's going great the next there's a complete disaster one minute you might be driving for uh you know killing the clock on a game-winning drive the next minute uh a once great hand offer of the football might not have the football in his hands anymore when things go wrong reach for morgan and morgan if you're in the middle of your very own fire fest you just might need america's largest injury law firm in your corner morgan and morgan has been fighting for the people and helping with your fire fests for over 35 years with morgan morgan it's easy to get started their fee is free unless they win you can check them out at for the people.com slash pmt that's for the people.com slash pmt all right let's wrap up we got fire fest of the week hank yeah fire fest of the week i mean two both both involving two of My favorite, one current NFLer, one former NFLer, but just the Jared Goff saga, all the reports coming out, Dan Campbell saying that the ref told him that the call came from the NFL, NFL saying that never happened.
2:29:23Just something's not adding up. Yeah, it's a touchdown that won't die because we've gotten updates on this touchdown. It seems like every day this week there's another wrinkle to it. And a lot of the times when NFL rigged, it's like it just goes away. The fans of whatever happened, they bitch about it for maybe a day and then it goes away. This is just every day. More stories, more clips. Jared was on press conference being like, yeah, I thought it was completely fine. I don't understand it. Dan Campbell news. It won't go away. Do you ever listen to other podcasts and you just catch a stray on part of my take?
2:29:55They talk about something that happened on part of my take on another podcast that you're listening to, and you're like, whoa, I thought I was outside of my little world for a second. What was that? That happened to me. I listened to the Bears podcast. Chris Felica, awesome guy. Yeah, yeah. And they were talking about the bad beat of the week. And it was like, yeah, Hank at Barstool got destroyed by this Jared Goff touchdown. Yeah. I've just been reminded of it. Like every single day, there's been something else about Hank's beat. But Jared did text me saying that he saw your reaction on Monday and it made him laugh a little.
2:30:26Yeah. No, I'll be. He's a Hank guy. You're a Jared guy. Love Jared. I'll be Jared anytime touchdown for the remainder of the season. Yeah. Got to. Got to get revenge. Yeah. And then kind of PFT, similar to your point of catching a stray on a podcast you listen to, Feidelberg was on Julian Edelman's Games with Names podcast, and they were talking about the jail story, and Edelman was like, did Hank really take a shit? Which that was, you never want to hear that. Or watching the clip, I was like, ooh. And then Feidelberg, he asked Feidelberg to rank his Mount Rushmore of Barstool personalities, and then Feidelberg asked Julian to rank his Mount Rushmore of Barstool personalities.
2:31:06He said, Dave, Big Cat, PFT. And then he was, you know, pondering the fourth. But over the course, like, oh, what about Hank? And then Julian, kind of in a callback to our Mount Rushmore, of a current guest, was like, he's more of an honorable mention guy. Oh, I love it. That's good. Which I honestly, like, you know, eye for an eye, respect, hat tip. That's, you know, he holds on to it. He was, and he doesn't forget. Yeah. So who was his last one? Roan. Okay. That's a good pick. Mount Rushmore. That's a really strong Mount Rushmore. Yeah. Great Mount Rushmore. So, yeah, my Fyre Fest is not putting Edelman on whatever five years ago.
2:31:44But you inspired him to be great. Yeah. Yeah. His podcast rocks. Kind of like Belichick. You treat him like Belichick did. Yeah. That's your same relationship. Yeah. Exact same relationship. Did you guys see that Mike Lombardi visited Saudi Arabia to try to drum up money for UNC this offseason? Oh, boy. Yeah. Oh, boy. Yeah. Okay. Lots of stories coming out about that program. They're trying hard. Belichick was probably like, I agree with the Saudis on a lot of things about journalism. I think they treat journalists right over there. That's true. All right. Your Fyre Fest PFT. My Fyre Fest, it actually happened yesterday.
2:32:20Big Cat alluded to it during an ad read, but we went to the National Association of Convenience Stores. Yes. The big convention that was downtown. Actually kind of fun. Very fun. To go there because you just walked around and it was just products and snacks. memes and zach they had bags full of swag they were just walking memes actually was like we were walking out memes goes oh the hot foods over there can we go there and we're like we just want to go home dude and he was just like but what about the the footlong mozzarella sticks and we're like they have footlong mozzarella sticks and me just says i don't know but probably he just he had made it up in his head they almost bought tickets today to go back yeah no i like 250 you should I would go back.
2:33:02It's just like everything. You feel like you're in a giant Buc-ee's. Wait, is it tomorrow too? I think so. I'll buy you tickets to go back. You guys want to make a video? If you guys want to go, Zach and Memes, I will pay for your tickets to go. You can decide later.
2:33:21Zach wants to go really bad. Zach and Memes are like best friends, by the way, which I love. They are best friends. Yeah, just walking around that place after we got done with our little meet and greet, I probably drank five or six different cans of sparkling water or sparkling water energy drink, just that people were handing out for free. So I was super hydrated. And then I made the long walk back to the garage to go to my car to drive out of there. And by the time I got to my car, I really, I had to pee super bad, really bad. So I got in my car. I had an empty body armor bottle in my car. So I'm in the garage.
2:33:56Unfortunately, what, 90 % of the time I wear shorts. Mm-hmm. I was wearing pants. Yep. And I was like, well, this is going to make it a little bit tougher to pee, but there's no chance I can get home because I have to pee like right now. So before I leave, I'm just going to try to pee in my car. And so pulled down a little bit, started to pee. Then I see in my side view mirror, there's a group of people that's walking up like right next to my window as I'm peeing. So I did the only thing that I could do, which is I tried to pinch stop and pull up. so i'm not like nobody walks past me and just sees me like pissing into a bottle right in my driver's seat it's a lot of tension it's a it's a lot of tension and as i as i tried to pull my pants up and i you have to let go before you pull the pants up even though i did the pinch at the tip and then put it back in as i was putting it in it just shot out all over all over my window uh then it got on me a little bit and then by that time my pants were all the way up and then for about five seconds afterwards it just keeps pissing oh and so i just sat there in my car you say keeps pissing you mean your own penis my own penis i got pissed on it's just kept on piss by my own penis the guy that i'm supposed to be the we're supposed to be allies yeah that's happened to me i've done this before can i give you a tip though for the future i got i got home and my My pants were like full on soaking wet.
2:35:18That's brutal. And then Blake came up to me and just wanted to smell me. Oh, yeah. I had to go upstairs and take a shower. I'm surprised he didn't pee on you. Yeah. Double market. The move there, though, is you don't sit in your seat. You have the door open and you stand like leaning into your car because then it's a little like the sitting peeing in a bottle always is a problem. It's always hard to cut it off. So you kind of stand like you're almost looking for something. so that way if someone walks by they can't see your penis they can see maybe the back of you like leaning into your car but that's the move you got to do my i thought about doing that but there were people that were like milling around the parking lot so i didn't i felt uncomfortable standing there peeing but if you're well i could see people but you're but like you're everything is below your car door like the window and it just looks like you're like kind of just like standing in your car i've done that a million times that's the move i probably didn't think get through enough but what i ended up doing was probably probably the worst thing that i could have done and then i drove home and i looked like i was looking around my car and on the front windshield and on my driver's side windshield there was just like a streak of pee from what i unpinched that's funny and just shot across the entire car uh so yeah i i i pissed all over myself yesterday damn um that's a brutal one my fire fest is uh i mean we've all dealt with this but and I feel like PFT I'm now realizing I'm you and I are more like than I realize but I've been trying to dress a little bit nicer and bought some new jeans and I just keep having people be like whoa jeans yeah and I just don't know what to say I how do I just I'm like Shane trying to become a ring guy like can I wear jeans but everyone just keeps commenting on them and it makes me self-conscious that I got to go back to jog yeah go back to but make sure they're pulled all the way down yeah people were calling my They were saying I was wearing capris on Monday night.
2:37:11They weren't. They were just hiked up because I put my legs up because I'm too fat to sit like a normal human being. There's no chance McDaniel wears capris during this weather that they're going to have, right? I bet you he does. It's going to be 60, but it's going to be windy and maybe rainy. Yeah. He's got to change it. I don't know. I don't think these jeans are... Shout out Muggsy. Very comfortable jeans. Can't wear jeans anymore. The problem with guys like us is the buttons. if somebody sees us wearing a button anywhere on our body they're like oh what's going on with you dressed up today yeah dressed up what's going on like a funeral later it's just i'm in that it's usually right around fall where i get in the every fall is the same thing like right around october i'm like you know what i'm gonna start dressing like an adult and i buy some new stuff and then i try for a couple like weeks month maybe month and a half and then winter comes and then I'm like, nah, I'm just going to wear sweatpants.
2:38:07But this is my dressing like an adult time. You're in your era. Yeah. Your buttons era. It's about four weeks. Zach, finish us off. My Fire Fest this week is also a little bit of aquatic like PFTs. Happening in this morning. Late last week, rubbed my eyes, got out of bed, wet foot instantly. A little bit of a flood situation. Water is just coming up from the shower. Had the maintenance guy come in. he said he would come when I was there. He didn't come while I was there. He came while he, on his own accord. I go in there. He's just in there doing his thing. He said he fixed it. Promised me he fixed it.
2:38:46This morning, wake up, no wet foot, but soaked, entry in bathroom. Every towel and most t-shirts available used to sop up. Dryer space isn't really there to dry those things. Wait, so you, what kind of shower, do you have a shower that just has like a flat bottom to it? Or is it like a tub? There's no tubs. It's just flat with the floor, too. So water's coming out when it decides to, and also if I use the sink. So you just woke up at one point this morning, and just the first thing you did was step into a puddle? I didn't step in water this morning. This time, it wasn't wet foot. Last Friday was wet foot.
2:39:25This was the return of the floodgate. Okay. Because that's a terrible thing to step into a puddle immediately. It was mystery liquid, too. I would have had no idea where it was coming from. oh and i don't know what to do i'm thinking about rioting so rioting a one-man riot yeah one-man riot is on my maybe on my agenda so he didn't fix it he said he said he did but there's no way he did because we're wet again we're so wet this might be a systemic problem in your apartment building you think i should ask around i think there might be i don't want to say i don't want to freak you out yeah but there was one time this apartment building that had a serial killer in it and everybody's all their shit backed up because the guy was flushing body parts down his toilet.
2:40:06And that's how he got caught.
2:40:11Again, I don't want to freak you out. Okay, that's good. Yeah, they could flush anything. They could be flushing all sorts of stuff for legs and arms. Yep. But it could be a dude also flushing legs and arms, I guess. It could be legs and arms. Double locked doors. Yeah. Do you have an idea of who that might be, like of your neighbors? I have no clue. No. We got to get this figured out, Zach. I can investigate. We can't have you be wet like this. No, don't investigate. I don't want you to. Yeah. You mind your own business. Stay inside? Yeah, yeah, stay inside. Stay inside. Stay inside. Damn. Wet foot is brutal, bro.
2:40:46You don't know where it's coming. I assume it's not like clean water. No. It wasn't like murky, but it's also coming from the drain, which can't be good. Right. Yeah. So then I started thinking other people shower water. and that just made me want to jump out the window. No smell to it? No smell as of yet. Hopefully this doesn't progress in that direction. I'm sorry. All good. That sucks. Max, no traveling. No, done until Thanksgiving. I'm so excited. You're ready. You're back. And I canceled plans this weekend. Oh, let's go. I told McCarthy, he's a guy who works here, a while ago, I would go to Ohio State.
2:41:27Jackie Tables? Yep. Okay. I told him I would go to Ohio State, Wisconsin, and I just said, I can't do it. It's a good game to skip. Yeah, good game to skip. It's going to be a bad game. Yeah. Real bad game. CBS game. I actually felt really bad for J.J. Watt because on last Sunday, he was doing his game on CBS, and they had multiple times they had to do the promo for Wisconsin, Ohio State. It was just like, shit. We were looking at tickets this week just by happenstance. $2. Turned on game time,$80, 50-yard line, eight rows up. Yep. It's bad. Great deal. If you want to go to that game, great deals on game time.
2:42:03Saw a rumor, Matt Campbell maybe. I'd be down for Matt Campbell. He's a guy who can get you eight to nine wins every year and nothing more. Max, have you seen who's going to be on college game day this weekend? I have not. James Franklin. No way. James Franklin is going to be on college game day this weekend. Like the guest picker? I don't know if he's the guest picker or not. Where are they doing it? I just saw an article on, I think it was, somebody linked me to it on Awful Announcing. Let me see. Let me double check that to make sure I wasn't getting scammed. Big noon kickoff to be at the Holy War.
2:42:36Very excited for that game. BYU-Utah. Yeah, he's appearing live on College Game Day. All right. His first public appearance since his firing last week. It really wasn't that long. Yeah. You don't need to do a first public appearance. Like, we got it. I think, is this like his audition, just so he can be like, I'm making a good faith effort to find a job? Yeah, definitely. All right, numbers. Three. There you go, memes. Back. 22. There you go, memes. 33. 10. Let's go 49. 15. Everyone watch PMTV. 99, Pug. 55. 83.
2:43:23Shane you got the rings on Fuck yeah
2:43:3243 Everyone have 43 No 43 memes Nope It's just not gonna happen It's really it's 3 in there I don't know Have you ever looked No You wanna do one more Yeah let's do one more One more No change of numbers Everyone keeps their number Yeah 49 Is it in there? 22. I assume it is. That would be very funny. I've seen it in there before.
2:44:05I just saw it.
2:44:09I think it's going to hit right now. 35. Not even close. 35. Love you guys.
2:44:23Thank you.
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2:45:50Thank you.
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Joe Flacco is all the way back and the Bengals have life. The Steelers are still the Steelers, losing games they should win under Mike Tomlin (00:00:00-00:20:03). Dodgers up 3-0 and the Blue Jays/Mariners are all tied up 2-2 (00:20:03-00:25:04). NFL Week 7 picks and preview for every game. The Rams weird travel schedule, blind resumes, a bonus segment with Diani Russini, Must Win/Cant Lose for the Commanders, are we selling on the Colts at the peak and more (00:25:04-01:42:13). Jerry's fantasy minute and our best bets (01:42:13-01:54:22). Coach Jon Gruden in studio to talk football, what he's seeing from the Eagles, what quarterback is impressing him, traveling to London and more (01:54:22-02:26:43). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:26:43-02:42:37).
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