Kyle Schwarber In Studio, Hank Forgot About Joel Embiid, Ryan Whitney Calls In To Explain The Beer Chug NBA/NHL Playoffs + Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Listener Submitted FAQs

14:26PFT Commenter:No, no, no, no, no. PFT. I appreciate you doing that to try to shield our good friend Ryan Whitney, calling it a very slow beer chug. He was fondling the Sabre and looked like he was also choking at the same time.

14:40Big Cat:So to me, it kind of looked like he was playing it like an instrument, like he was blowing out into it. I don't know what he was trying. Some guys are chug guys. He's not a chug guy. It looked like he was treated. Maybe you couldn't see inside the can. And he was just like, you know, sometimes people will do that where they put a bottle up to their mouth but don't drink it but make it look like they're drinking. Yeah. He looked like he was trying to just make the look that he was chug. He didn't realize that the saber was clear.

15:03PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. I think the offhand also screwed him up. He kind of lost balance somehow with his offhand. It was so... I texted Dave right away. I was like, we got to release a statement. Like, this is bad.

15:16Big Cat:He was cupping the balls on the saber. And it's so funny that it's, I mean, Buffalo, there's actually some energy in there tonight. And it's like if he. What do you mean actually some energy? If the Bruins win this series.

15:26PFT Commenter:What are you talking about? Because he went there and wore the jersey and did the, like it will be the funniest, the funniest storyline of all time. Yeah, watch it again. See what I'm saying about his offhand? It's like a chewing gum and walking thing. He can't pump the crowd up and drink at the same time. He got all out of rhythm and he couldn't figure it out. The physics, like he just has it. Watch, watch. The beer is going down.

15:50Big Cat:His left hand, like, stop moving. It's not even really a physics question. It's just when you drink a beer, you have to tip the beer up. Yeah. I guess that's physics, but it's just, if you've ever drank a beer, you know how gravity works with a beer.

16:05PFT Commenter:Oh, man. Yeah, the Whitney curse might be real. And it's funny because he went to this game, and then the Oilers are up 3-0 in the first period. Just like that. I texted, I was like, whatever it costs to get Whitney in the building for game six, he has to do it. Because it's in Boston. Yeah. Whitney's got to go. He was part of the Blade gang. He looked awesome.

16:27Big Cat:It was a great goal by pasta, too, in overtime. Sick finish.

16:30PFT Commenter:Yeah. And the wild, big win. It is a sick finish. Big win. Wilder one away. All right. So the Knicks. Zach and Memes. Very impressive game. Got it done. Jalen Brunson was phenomenal. do we feel like all is right back with the world right now it's like hey you're better than them just finish this off yeah it was just absolute shit kicking it feels like the end of game three is the is the start i saw you saying that because there was like tears and shit after game three yeah someone dropped that report of the nicks locker room like right after the game they were crying after game three. Yeah, so they say what's the schedule if you both win on Thursday Saturday Saturday's game one.

17:16PFT Commenter:Oh, oh, oh, I don't know. Does anyone know? I didn't look that far ahead. I can look I'd love to see it. Yeah, I don't know how that works. Let's see with Jerry between May

17:30Big Cat:2nd and May 4th memes. What are your thoughts on that would be Saturday that cats about to get a shit pushed if it's Sixers against the Knicks. I just want to make it past this round. You guys are going to beat the Hawks.

17:44PFT Commenter:And then we're going to beat the fuck out of whoever we play. Zach, you've been – Zach has actually been correct about this series. After game three and the not getting a shot off, Zach was like, it's a seven-game series, boys. Don't worry. Seven-game series.

18:00Big Cat:This series is not what it's always supposed to be. Right. Tune-up series, get right. I mean, just – Boys are back in physical. It was great to see tonight. Can't wait. It's a one-and-a-half point spread for Thursday.

18:13PFT Commenter:The Knicks are better than the Hawks, though. By one-and-a-half points, according to DraftKings Sportsbook. Okay. I mean, I guess, yeah. I mean, whether it's six or seven, I would take the Knicks if they play in Game 7 in New York.

18:27Big Cat:I can tell Hank's worried. Hank's officially worried. This is Hank's worried face where he gets a little grumpy, a little short with everybody. I'm not grumpy. But it's a different cocky Hank than what we usually get. This is the cocky Hank that you can tell he's projecting a little bit. Pressure is a privilege, and I'm excited for the opportunity. It's not a true real piece of shit cocky Hank. You don't find out who you are until you're backed up against the wall. This is Hank on the ropes right now. That's when you get championship DNA. That's when you have to pull.

18:56PFT Commenter:You're right, PFT, but he is on the ropes, but he doesn't admit he's on the ropes. I just said it. No, no, no, but you don't think. We have to beat it out of him. In your heart of hearts, you do not think the Celtics are going to lose this series. We're going to game seven. And we're going to fucking kill them. We're not losing this series. So, but he. Game seven. Anything can happen, man. It's game seven. That's why it's the best week of the year. I mean, we haven't talked about the fact. Like, you talked at length about the three Delentes and Jerry O 'Connell on your wall. Like, what happens if Saturday happens and you lose?

19:30You're right. I haven't talked about that. I haven't even thought about that. And I won't. At all. Nope. what are the chances that you would go home i would i i don't know because i haven't talked

19:41Big Cat:about it you want to say he wouldn't but he did that you might have to go home if you got three delentes like everywhere you look you're in a funhouse mirror of of italians and every time you turn around they're in your face just oh yeah you might you might leave i wouldn't blame you i yeah they're gonna win they're gonna win on thursday south of june went on thursday what are we talking about what's the best outcome for the podcast obviously a game seven game seven

20:09PFT Commenter:something super controversial happens maybe like one guy like someone gets kicked out of the game and then a heartbreaking buzzer beater for we've seen the playbook of hank beating me a million times yeah your bachelor party no no the best for the podcast would be max having a like the best bachelor party of all time and and that like just having the best day of all time until they lose

20:35Big Cat:on a buzzer beater that would let if we're being honest we've seen this happen before and it kind of fucking rocks when it does happen no but also max beating hank and then memes

20:46PFT Commenter:beating max that'd be good that'd be a hell of a twist that would be good the script writers you'd

20:51Big Cat:have to tip your cap on that but i also love seeing memes beat hank that's the thing back-to-back ears being both yeah and still i'm excited boys this is good ball no matter what i just i need game seven i know it's so bad maybe dueling game sevens although yeah yeah that's too much too much ball that might be

21:18PFT Commenter:too much ball that would get us very exhausted not doing games and where would we find our energy Spurs We should invite Josh Allen Spurs Spurs Done Series done Trailblazers Thanks for coming out You won one game Yeah Wemby was hurt Good job Who cares

21:38Big Cat:Wemby got pissed about the league's concussion policy I didn't know Wemby had that dog in him like that Yeah He's like the NBA Forced me to be a pussy Yeah he's a football guy I didn't want to be Yeah

21:48PFT Commenter:He's a true football guy

21:50Big Cat:That's what I'm saying I think I think the Thunder might they might have their hands full with the Spurs

21:55PFT Commenter:yeah but remember it wouldn't be for another round

21:57Big Cat:right in the Western Conference Finals

21:59PFT Commenter:and then the last two things before we kick it to ourselves talk about the games on Monday we have the NCAA is pretty much officially expanding to 76 teams in the tournament I think we all are in agreement that it's a bad idea unless it was to get more of the mid-majors in but we know the truth is that's not what's going to happen. It's going to be a bunch of 500 SEC and Big Ten teams.

22:28Big Cat:I thought about it more. Yeah, that would be the one acceptable way, but it should just go back to 64 for being honest. Yeah, I don't like 68. Never liked it. I don't give a fuck about the playing game. A 64 team bracket is perfect. It's clean. Keep it there. But we're fighting against the windmills. So, you know, died. Yeah. So it's six games today.

22:51PFT Commenter:So it's six games Tuesday, six games Wednesday would be the new format where they change it to 24 teams play in the play. I hate it. Hate it. It was all 16 teams. I think two 15s and then a combo of 13, 11, 12. It's stupid. I hate it. Yeah. Unless, again, if they actually expanded it to include some of these good mid-major conferences that end up only having one bid, I'm all for it. but we all know the truth to it, and it's going to suck, and we're going to get the Auburns, we're going to get Indiana, and I'm talking about obviously this last year, a bunch of these teams that were not good, but because you have 76, you have to do it.

23:34Big Cat:Even if it's mid-majors, that's the best way to do a bad thing. Yeah. But it's still a bad thing. Correct. I don't want it. I don't want expansion. Nobody except for, I guess, the conferences want expansion. Well, no, the coaches. And the broadcasters.

23:47PFT Commenter:Yeah, and the coaches want it because the coaches all, like, you have a better chance of making the tournament. You have a better chance of keeping your job. But I think a lot of coaches would be honest and say that we don't need to expand it. Yeah, no, no, but I'm saying, like, the coaches will all use this to their advantage. They'll be like, yeah, went to the tournament three years in a row. You were the last 13 seed that had to play in the play-in.

24:11Big Cat:Right, but the real driving force is not the coaches behind it. It's the money that goes to the conferences, to the schools. and yeah, it's nobody, the consumer does not want this.

24:22PFT Commenter:And honestly, I'm going to have to start budgeting now because they just added two more full days and I'm going to lose money. Like just, I'm going to be, Thursday's going to come around and be like, I'm out. Yeah.

24:34Big Cat:And it's tough that time of year when it comes right after Conference Championship Week.

24:40PFT Commenter:Yeah.

24:41Big Cat:And if you were lucky enough to win Conference Championship Week, You have to try to let that all on the line for the play-in games. It's just hard. It's tough.

24:51PFT Commenter:That's going to be the longest week of our lives. Yeah. Holy shit.

24:55Big Cat:Is there a way to stop this? Worst week of the year.

24:58PFT Commenter:Worst week of the year? It's just not going to be the same. And it'll never be the same again. Do you realize we just watched our last true NCAA tournament? Never.

25:14Big Cat:Oh, and Duke didn't even make the final four. Oh, yeah.

25:19PFT Commenter:We did just watch the last one.

25:21Big Cat:It's too many teams. And then the NBA also had to do some logistic shuffling around. The thing that Adam Silver hinted to us last week on the pod, we're doing a 3-2-1 draft.

25:32PFT Commenter:Yep.

25:32Big Cat:So the draft lottery is going to be some teams get three lottery balls. The bottom, what, four teams get two lottery balls? So it's punishing the worst of the worst.

25:42PFT Commenter:The worst, I think it's the bottom three teams. And each two? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's one through three get two, four through ten get three, and then 11 through 16 get two. Yeah. And there's now 16 lottery teams. And there's also the rule that you can't finish top five three consecutive years, I believe. Or you can do it three consecutive years. You can't do it in a fourth. and you can't get the number one pick back-to-back years. Is that correct? It also is not official. This is just a proposal. Yeah, they're floating this out there.

26:23Big Cat:You were right, but then I don't know about the back-to-back number one pick.

26:27PFT Commenter:Yeah, I don't know about that either. They have that in baseball, which I don't hate. In baseball, they changed it so that you can't get the number one pick five years in a row, which that makes sense.

26:39Big Cat:No team would be able to win the top pick in consecutive years or be able to win three consecutive top five picks.

26:44PFT Commenter:I nailed it. I nailed it. I was ready. I was on top of it.

26:47Big Cat:Teams also would not be able to protect picks in the 12 to 15 slots going forward.

26:52PFT Commenter:I guess the only thing I would ask is if... Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

27:00Big Cat:As long as this doesn't take a second.

27:01PFT Commenter:Where are the unintended consequences? I can't figure it out, but I'm sure someone's going to find a loophole. Some nerd's going to find a loophole, and it's going to be like, Oh, fuck. We should have thought about this.

27:12Big Cat:Well, as long as it doesn't take effect this year, I'm okay with it.

27:15PFT Commenter:Yeah, no, it doesn't. Okay, good. So you're good. Good. Where are the unintended consequences? Would it be like if you trade your first round pick, you would tank even harder? Because you wouldn't want... You'd want to get two instead of three? Do you know what I'm saying? If you wanted to fuck the team that you traded. Well, and also if you didn't want to have the clock set. I don't know how it would work if you alright so let's say the Wizards trade their first round pick and if the Wizards get the first pick and they've traded it would that make it ineligible for them to get the first pick next year

27:52Big Cat:if it conveyed to somebody else I don't think that they would get punished because they technically won the lottery right yeah but that seems like something that there would be

28:01PFT Commenter:either way that would be the one unintended consequence because then the Wizards would then try to tank even harder to get only two lottery balls instead of three. Right. But on surface, it does kind of like, it will make teams at the bottom a little more competitive at the end because why would you want to have one of the bottom three records?

28:20Big Cat:There would be some awesome games the last three weeks of the season between some really, really shitty teams. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be fun.

28:27PFT Commenter:Yeah, I think it works. I don't know. Some nerd's going to find a hack for it and be like, they didn't think about this. Fuck. I'm an idiot.

28:35Big Cat:Where's the line between getting the three lottery balls and the one?

28:40PFT Commenter:11 through 16. So four through 10 is three.

28:44Big Cat:The losers of the seven, eight playing games get one lotto ball each. Okay.

28:48PFT Commenter:All right. Correct. So, yeah. It expands it so that, yeah. I don't know. Maybe. I think someone's going to find a loophole. You know they will.

28:58Big Cat:Yeah. There's going to be a nerd. To me, okay, here's what the loophole might be. it feels like if you're in the play-in slot you want to lose that game well oh yeah and also if you're the if you're 11 12 13 14 you're going to be tanking hard yeah at the end of the season

29:19PFT Commenter:right i think so yeah you'd be tanking for your three lottery balls because i think and then you and then if you're in if you're already secure in that four through 10 you'd be tanking as well to not get up so yeah it's just it just it shifted tanking i'd have i'd have to

29:35Big Cat:look at the numbers but it just based on math vibes boy math if the loser of the 7-8 playing game gets one lottery ball yeah each lottery ball seems pretty valuable yeah so losing i feel like losing that game would be of higher interest than it is right now as we currently stand correct and

29:53PFT Commenter:And like I said, no matter what, it's going to be better because the odds are flattened significantly. But at the last two weeks of the season, if you're the 11th worst team, you are going to tank really hard. And if you're the 10th worst team, you're also going to tank really hard because you don't want to win and get to the 11th. So that will be where it just shifted the tanking to basically teams 8 through 12 are going to tank their asses off down the stretch. Okay, we figured it out. It took us a little talking. Anything else? Diego Pavia. Yeah. Congrats to Diego Pavia. Raven. Raven. Three-year contract.

30:35PFT Commenter:Three-year contract. All guaranteed? I probably doubt it. Yeah, I probably doubt that. But still, good for him. Good for him. He didn't even have to try out, right? I don't think so.

30:46Big Cat:They're like, we love you. He was going to try out, and they said, no, we'll just give you the contract. That's why I'm expecting probably none of it is guaranteed.

30:52PFT Commenter:Are you scared of that, Hank? He's your guy. Yeah, I'm happy for him. Okay. I mean, I wish, yeah. Congratulations to Diego. I can't get over the Whitney chug. I know. It's just going to.

31:06Big Cat:It's like he did it on purpose. But he didn't. In fact, it was the opposite. Yeah. He was trying me hardest. He was actually trying to amp him up. Memes, do that again, what you just did? Yeah, there you go. Do it with the water. Do it with the water.

31:23PFT Commenter:Yeah, he was trying to say like. It's a new trend. He was like. But then, no, this arm.

31:35PFT Commenter:He lost use of his left hand. I love that guy so much. Why don't you give him a call? Hockey player. Yeah, let me call him real quick. I love that guy so much. He really is the best.

31:45Big Cat:We got to get somebody to teach Witt how to open up that throat. And how to skate. The people that's fucking Merles and Ryan Whitney rollerblading down the highway, they both play in the NHL. People are like, these guys can't even fucking skate.

31:56PFT Commenter:I know. They both play in the NHL. Hello? Hey, would you like to make a statement? We're taping part of my take right now. Would you like to make a statement? I made a statement on my Twitter handle where I can go through it again. Okay. I'm sitting here with Merle's and memes. Okay. Was handed a Buffalo Sabre sword, going out to the outdoor party outside the Key Bank Arena.

32:24Big Cat:Uh-huh. Filled with a beer, went out, apologized, crazy popped from the crowd, chugged it all over my Sabre's jersey. Kind of embarrassed. I'm like, oh, shit. I come off the stage, the emcee of the event's like, dude these things you can't chug out of them you have to drink it slow because you can't chug they end up spilling it's impossible to chug i said oh all right well i wish you told me that before i had mc guy i have a chug coming up first tv time out now i didn't know i didn't know basically the balance level of like going non-chug to like going really slow right like there's an in-between mean yeah i went i was on the i was on the other side of the hard chug where at one point i mean it's balancing like like like like a boat would on the ocean and the one picture where it's going the opposite direction actually while chugging i i i was like oh man this isn't even like there's nothing even coming in my mouth right now that doesn't sound great with this so i finished now here's what happened i the things scored beforehand i'm like thank god oh i'm going on the big screen with a goal here's another part of this how the fuck did tnt put why was this on tv it was a tv timeout i think biz made them made sure tnt knew i was going on then because i had told biz and our agent oh it's at the tv timeout first period first one after the 14 minute mark he probably told tnt i've never seen one of those on tv so i i went up back to the seat with mur mur was standing next to me going what was taking you so long what was taking you so long what was taking you so i'm like dude i got caught between i didn't get to drink my beer because i was waiting for him to finish it so so i so he said what was taking you so i'm like dude i got caught between the not chug and spill and like a really really really slow chug and then um yeah man so then i all of a sudden like the texts are so there's no service that you can't like get the twitter up and but i got texts coming through i'm talking i'm talking 100 a minute what the fuck what the fuck what was that what's going on and i'm like what how all these people are they what's going on well boom i see porn noise tweet i said oh my god it was on tv i gotta see how did this look did it look that bad it looked worse than i ever could have imagined i called my wife after she goes you looked she said you looked like one of those things outside of like we will buy the gold like a car wash yeah yeah she's like your arm looks like one of those flappy arms trying to pump up the crowd while doing the job

35:31PFT Commenter:that's that's where you your left hand I think you lost your balance like your left hand just stopped moving buddy I went to the bathroom so then I go to the bathroom and there's an Indian guy in there and he's like, hey man, what was up with that chug?

35:54I did one earlier out of the sword and it went all over my jersey and everyone was like, oh, you can't chug out of those. It's like a known thing in Buffalo. And the guy goes, man, you gotta own the spillage, man. You gotta own the spillage. And I said, you're 100 % right, dude. Think of how much better it is. Buffalo wins that game if I just go straight north to south and it's all over me.

36:20PFT Commenter:It looked like you were having a medical emergency. And really, the spill wouldn't be that bad.

36:24Big Cat:I think the spill is the lesser of two evils. We got Uber Eats coming. Oilers are up 4-1, thank God. But the I was the Josh Allen thing of the spill. I'm like, I'm not going to do that. Just a disaster. Just a disaster. Now, I'm from Boston. I can't stand the Bruins. Never have liked them. and now it's like Dave wins everything. I'm from Boston. I'm going against my hometown team. I don't know if Buffalo's winning this series.

36:53PFT Commenter:Yeah, no. No, they're not. No. Wait, you did it. You got to get redemption in game six at the Garden. Hank's trying to get you to go. Hank wants you to go because he thinks you're bad luck. How good would redemption be at the Garden? You want me to go then? No, he thinks you're bad luck for the Sabres. Oh, no shit, Sherlock. Yeah. I'm going to another one of those games. I mean, the oil isn't even leaving Buffalo. I said, yeah, we got some plans in store when this thing goes seven for Merle's to address what happened and really fix it. But thank God the Oilers are winning. But what a night. Boys, we were rollerblading on the side of the highway like 13 hours ago.

37:33It feels like a month. I had the internet by storm today.

37:39PFT Commenter:Yeah, you did. You sound like Mincy. And then I'm the laughingstock of the internet A minute later How are you so drunk when you didn't drink any beer? I'm not drunk at all buddy We had two beers with the Blade Gang And went to the Pre-outdoor Fest party I chugged a beer that half of it went on the Sabres jersey And then went inside and like sipped on a beer Until my chugged third round the world I haven't even drank That's the worst part of all this

38:12Big Cat:What do you say to the haters on the internet That saw the clip of you skating Along the highway and said These guys can't skate My skates were two sizes too small And I played it up I played up the effect a little bit Of being the bad skater guy It was a funny look

38:31PFT Commenter:Oh man you're the fucking best I'm gonna watch that video Like a hundred more times tonight I just can't believe it. I'm not going to lie, boys. I need the Sabres to win this series. Yeah, you're going to be – because it was all fun and games. You talk shit about the Sabres, but then you went and owned it. You're a man of the people. Let me tell you, a lot of people listening to this, City of Buffalo, after the game – okay, so Pasta got the puck, Moles. Pasta got the puck. I go, let's go. I'm not kidding you. As the puck touched the backhand of his stick, I go, let's go. I was down the stairs before the goal went in.

39:09I knew it. We were scraping up the Sabre things that we drink out of. We need to go. And I get outside. I'm like, dude, somebody's going to slap me. And the friendliest city in the world. I probably had 50 people after the game. They're like, thanks for coming to the city. I'm like, oh, my God, these people. They're like Midwest people in Buffalo. They're the best. Great people, great people. Yeah. Couldn't believe. I didn't have one person say something to me like rude. Well, not rude. You know, I have one person chirp me. Every person. Can we get a pick? Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming.

39:47And then after the game, I'm the reason. And they're still saying, thanks a lot, Whit. Thanks a lot. It was okay. Bad Chuck. But you'll get him next time.

39:54PFT Commenter:Bad Chuck. Just a great crew. Just a great city. All right. Well, thank you, Whit. I mean, you provided. I had tears in my eyes. I had tears in my eyes. So I appreciate it. And we got a statement out. I texted Dave right away. I was like, we got to get a statement out there. This is a problem for Barstool. Yeah, I think he does. A meme said he goes to you. He does like two of those a year, man. Yeah. No, these are only for real things. And that chug could have taken us down. But thankfully, we disavowed. I think Tommy Smokes got right on it. Next time, as the guy said to me in the bathroom, man, you got to own this village.

40:29PFT Commenter:Yeah, you got to own this village. You got to own this village. All right, I'll talk to you. The weed chug is way worse. All right, go Oilers. Fuck you. All right, bye. All right, that was Whit. All right, now they're up.

40:45Big Cat:Yeah, they're up 4-1 now. Okay. God damn it, he's so fucking funny. See, I got to own it. Just take the spillage.

40:51PFT Commenter:Just take the spillage. Someone said that he was like, someone was like, I know this HIPAA, so he can't answer, but was Whitney having a stroke? Like, actually having a stroke?

41:02Big Cat:Yeah, just a moment, a fugue state.

41:05PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right. Let's get to – we'll kick it back to ourselves in studio for Kyle Schwarber coming up, which we taped last week, and Monday night's games. Okay, before we get to Monday's games, DraftKings, the NBA playoffs are in full swing and the intensity isn't letting up. Every night delivers high-stakes drama, clutch performances, and unforgettable moments you'll be talking about for years. And with DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NBA, Your winnings get a boost every single day, all playoffs long. Playoff stars turn it up round by round, and DraftKings turns it up with them with a profit boost available every single game day from the first round all the way to the finals.

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42:57Big Cat:I like Shingun, 10 plus rebounds. He's going to get a double-double. Okay. Miss a lot of shots. We're going player props. Yep. I'm going with my boy. Oh. Marcus Smart. Okay. 20-plus points, rebounds, assists.

43:12PFT Commenter:I like that. Okay. I like that. So go to DraftKings Sportsbook, bet with us, and use code TAKE to get a boost every day of the NBA playoffs in partnership with DraftKings. The crowd is yours. So Monday night games. I, for one, am happy that, well, happy is the wrong word. We're a football podcast first. In fact, I love college basketball a lot. I dive into college basketball in January, February, March. And then I love watching the NBA playoffs. But the long way I'm making this point is I'm kind of happy that I didn't have any expectations on the Detroit Pistons as the one seed because I didn't watch them during the regular season because holy shit, that team is dog shit.

44:01Big Cat:Okay, I think I've got a good way to describe this matchup because I was thinking about the Pistons last night as I was watching them lose the magic again, just looking like a disjointed team. I think the Pistons are a really shitty good team. and I think that the Magic is a really wait no no let me I flipped it I flipped it I got this

44:27PFT Commenter:when you watch a game like that it's hard to figure it out

44:30Big Cat:the Pistons are a really shitty good team the Magic are a really good bad team that's how I think this matchup works out I think that a really good shitty team beats a really shitty good team

44:43PFT Commenter:yeah it just was the Pistons don't know how to put the ball in the hoop, which is a really important part of basketball. They didn't score for the last five minutes. Tobias Harris missed that open three when they were down two where I was like, ah, that's it right there. Perfect. He does it every time. He ends up with 20 points. Then you look at it like, oh, yeah, you didn't hit any big shots. There was a sequence, and I say sequence because it was actually more like a three minutes of the game where it was just a tradeoff between Suggs missing a three and then Beef Stew, Isaiah Stewart getting an offensive foul on a pick.

45:25PFT Commenter:And it was just going back and forth like that. It was so hard to watch. I feel bad for Cade Cunningham because I know people are going to dog on him. There's two playoffs in a row that he has maybe not been able to elevate. He is also obviously coming off of a collapsed lung, so I'm going to throw that out there. That's not fair to fully judge him. It's not like he came into the playoffs 100 % healthy. It's also not fair because he's just got dog shit teammates. And Jalen Duran is like, he's unplayable. No one can make a shot. Cade Cunningham has to start all the offense. He looks gassed at the end of the game because he has to start all the offense.

46:01PFT Commenter:And a collapsed lung. And a collapsed lung. I just don't know. Like, you got to get, they got to get someone who can make a shot. I feel like after the injury, it was a different team.

46:13Big Cat:Yes. Well, the problem with the Pistons is, first, just to set the expectation, they won 14 games two years ago. So the Pistons, they turned it around. Now they've got the expectation because it feels like they were the team that really gave a fuck about the regular season. And the East is not very good this year. It's like the Knicks, they could be okay. Celtics, they could be okay. But it was a down year for the East. We can agree on that, right?

46:36PFT Commenter:It's been a down year for the East for a long time.

46:38Big Cat:It's been a down couple decades for the East. Yeah.

46:41PFT Commenter:Like 30 years.

46:42Big Cat:Yeah. I'd say since when, at the end of the Bulls dynasty. Yeah. It's been a bad 30 years.

46:48PFT Commenter:That's not a knock on this. I mean, the Celtics won an NBA championship. I'm just saying -

46:51Big Cat:Box won.

46:51PFT Commenter:In terms of depth, the West has been deeper for a long time.

46:55Big Cat:The Bucs did win. That's a fair point.

46:57PFT Commenter:But you'd agree the West is deeper. Sure.

46:59Big Cat:Yeah. Okay. It's not a knock on you. Yeah. Good job, Hank. You are a world champion. What? What was that? What are you talking about? Of course. Yeah, but he took offense to it. I don't know why he would take offense to it. You know what he sounds like?

47:13PFT Commenter:He sounds like an SEC fan right now. Yeah, that's exactly it. Oh, yeah, you're rooting for conferences. You're rooting for conferences.

47:19Big Cat:It's a little early in the day to piss Hank off, so I'm trying to just ease him into it. But we can agree that it's been a down year for the East, right, Hank? At minimum, down year, down season. The Pistons really were the ones that cared. They wanted to be the number ones. That was a big point of pride, which makes sense. After coming off two years ago, they won 14 games. it is a big point of pride to be like, yeah, we're the one seed in the East now. What a great turnaround. That doesn't change the fact that they're a very flawed basketball team.

47:44PFT Commenter:Yeah, and I don't know how they didn't get another shooter because they knew at the trade deadline that they were going to potentially be the one. They are the one, but a top seed. Windows are fleeting in sports. They just got no one who can shoot. And the Magic, again, continue to be. I do think it's just partially as the Pistons aren't as dog shit as I'm making them out to be. The Magic are a really bad matchup in the fact that they're tough and they're tall and they're finally healthy. Although Franz Wagner gets hurt again. So you just get to do the whole thing over with the will he, won't he play.

48:22PFT Commenter:It was just a tough, tough watch. I mean, Suggs, credit to Suggs, he just kept on shooting. I think at one point Robbie Hummel said he was like, I don't know why he's not following through.

48:32Big Cat:He said that. He went like one for 13, right?

48:35PFT Commenter:Yeah, he's not following through on his shot. He took 11 threes. He made one of them. Good. Keep shooting. But follow through, please.

48:44Big Cat:But it's not like the Magic are an outstanding team. I think they're a great matchup. No, they're a tough team. They're a great matchup. I mean, Paulo didn't look great either. And I was thinking about Paulo, too, last night. If you were to do a redraft right now, like draft every player in the NBA,

49:00PFT Commenter:everyone's a free agent, where does Paulo go?

49:03Big Cat:Does he still go top 10?

49:06PFT Commenter:I was going to say like 15, somewhere around there.

49:09Big Cat:Yeah.

49:10PFT Commenter:I think we're still, we're going to have still on because he's coming for the combine in a couple weeks. I think I saw that he said they take Palo over or was a Cade over Jason Tatum. I can't remember which one.

49:21Big Cat:We should just do Apollo draft.

49:23PFT Commenter:Yeah, we should do Apollo draft. What? He's only 23.

49:25Big Cat:Yeah, I know.

49:26PFT Commenter:Yeah, he is a very, very good player.

49:29Big Cat:He has potential superstar level to him. You probably would have said like top seven going into the season, right? Top eight? Yeah.

49:36PFT Commenter:Yeah, he would still be up there, but off the top of my head. Once you do the draft, it's like the age is where you really have to die. The age is definitely not top ten. But these 23. All right, Jude, make your list. Yeah, but he went down. Max, give me the list. Make your list. Wemby. Okay. Easy. Wemby, Luka. Luka. Yeah. SGA, easy. SGA. Jokic, easy. Tatum, easy. Brown, easy. Giannis. Giannis is getting old. Giannis is getting old. If you're doing ages, Giannis is almost, I think he's 30. Would you take Giannis? I would. That's where it's like if it's working. People are going to get so triggered by conversation.

50:16PFT Commenter:I'm excited. Paolo, yes. I'm so excited about this. Max? Giannis is old, dude. Paolo is bad. Maxi? Yes, Maxi. Embiid? Yes, Maxi. Embiid? Not Embiid. Harden? Not Harden.

50:34Big Cat:Edgecombe.

50:35PFT Commenter:Why not Harden, dude? Would you take Edgecombe? Why not Harden? Wow. Why not? Why wouldn't you take Edgecombe at a better year than Paolo this year at 19? I'd take Ant. Yeah, Ant for sure. Would you take Brunson? I wouldn't. Oh, man. Scottie Barnes. CJ McCollum. Scottie Barnes. Future face this league. I think he's probably in the 20 range. Yes, I think he's in the 20 range now that we're saying it. 15 to 20. This is going to trigger people. We'll settle with 20. You know what? Actually, let's not settle with 20. Let's settle with 50. Let's say he's the 50th best player just to get everyone upset.

51:14PFT Commenter:Chet. I have a –

51:17Big Cat:But if they win this series and he goes on to have a good showing in the second round, that is a direct – it's going to be a direct referendum on Paulo. He's going to start clawing his way back up.

51:28PFT Commenter:Yeah, and this season has been weird for the Magic. They had very high expectations, got injured a lot. I have a crazy stat. I don't know if you guys all saw it, but this should help out Pistons fans that are probably in their fields right now. By the way, did you see the Piston fan waterboarding himself after the game? I saw that. Respect. Soggy sorrows. Respect. That's big time soggy sorrows. But here's the stat that maybe you can be like, hey, maybe this is the world's working in a certain way. April 27th, the Orlando Magic went up 3-1 against the Detroit Pistons. the Magic won game one, the Pistons won game two, the Magic won game three and four.

52:08PFT Commenter:April 27th, 2003, the Orlando Magic went up 3-1 against the Detroit Pistons. The exact same day. Okay. Exact same sequence. Magic won game one, Pistons won game two. Now, the only problem for this stat, which is a crazy stat, that it was literally 23 years to the day the Orlando Magic go up 3-1 against the Detroit Pistons. The only problem is the coach for the Orlando Magic at that time, Mr. 3-1, Doc Rivers. So that's going to be – that part is tough.

52:39Big Cat:That is tough. Also –

52:40PFT Commenter:You need Doc Rivers to coach the Magic.

52:42Big Cat:Also, the Pistons then had a little bit more talent. Yes, they did. Yes, they did. With the Wallaces and Tayshaun and Rip, Chauncey.

52:50PFT Commenter:I remember being like, oh, Tracy McGrady, finally going to go out of the first round. Yeah, that was a big – that was a coming out year for him.

52:54Big Cat:He's going to do it. Turns out it didn't work out. But yeah, I still don't think the Magic are great, but they've got this matchup down pat. Bane looked good again. Yep. They added another shooter in John Morant.

53:05PFT Commenter:Yep. I love the gun thing. That'd be funny if he got a suspension for a game he didn't even play in. But I love that John Morant and Jackson were there. That was cool. Yeah. That was a cool thing for them. You don't see that very often.

53:19Big Cat:Yeah. I liked it a lot. Shame on the producers. Actually, I love what the producers did. but like John Morant's got to go home being like the one time I brought the gun out actually probably wasn't the one time no way that was not the one time I need to see the all 22 on and like 22 caliber on John Morant for the entire game

53:37PFT Commenter:he brought like the Rambo clip with his ammunition around him he was shooting that thing all night

53:43Big Cat:yeah but it is very cool for him to be there and be like yeah still got a lot of love for my teammate good for the magic, bummer for the Pistons yeah

53:50PFT Commenter:I don't think it's over it depends on franz if franz plays i think i would say it's over if franz doesn't play then yeah there's because it essentially comes down to neither team can shoot and then you and then you take off franz who can shoot it's like oh shit now the now the magic are the pistons

54:11Big Cat:right now they're the same team looking at each other spider-man they only have to beat themselves

54:14PFT Commenter:once yeah uh okay thunder finish off the sons if you just listen to us talk about paulo being the 50th best player in the NBA and got triggered. Just remember, we are a ball-knower podcast because we were the first to report last year that last year's Oklahoma City Thunder were probably the worst Oklahoma City Thunder in their dynasty. And this year, they are. I mean, that was a non-competitive series. SGA was averaged 33-8-4 in this series. They're just so good. The whole team, everyone can shoot, everyone can defend. It's It's nuts to watch. They're so much better than everyone. I don't know if they'll lose a game before the Western Conference Final.

54:56PFT Commenter:Maybe one. I think we said it, one and a half. They're just so good. And the Suns didn't have a bad... The Suns had a nice little season where everything's kind of falling apart for them the last few years. They put it back together, get back in the playoffs. But you just played a team that is significantly better than you and everyone else.

55:15Big Cat:Yeah, I mean, I didn't watch this game because we made a promise to you guys. and watch the game. The Thunder and the Suns, you can only keep so much information in your brain at any given time. But yeah, we were right about the Thunder. Well ahead of time. Yeah, so I'm glad. I'm glad for the United States, for America, that the series is over so we can move on to more important things. Agreed.

55:33PFT Commenter:Do you want another crazy stat? Crazy stat number two. Since March 17th, SGA in the fourth quarter in overtime has missed one single shot. Yeah, I saw that one. That's fucking nuts. He is so good. And I think I'm done with the foul-baiting thing. I don't really care anymore because the moments I watch of this series, he's just so much better than everyone.

55:58Big Cat:He's the best player in the world. He didn't really have to do it this series. You'll be back. You'll be back. We'll get you back talking about the foul-baiting. Oh, yeah. He is the best player in the world. He is the best. Yeah, yeah. I said that on Monday's show. People got up my ass about that. He is. He just is. He is the MVP. He's the best basketball player. He doesn't need to do the foul-baiting stuff. He didn't really have to do it this series. And good for him. I hope he continues to not do that, but I doubt it.

56:23PFT Commenter:Also, the Suns, if you're a Suns fan, you could just say maybe they just ran out of time because they lost game one by 35. They lost game two by 13. They lost game three by 12. They lost game four by nine. They were probably four games away from maybe winning one.

56:38Big Cat:Yeah, Devin Booker was really coming to his own here.

56:40PFT Commenter:They were just getting it closer and closer and closer by fractions. All right. And then Thunder – or sorry, the Nuggets survive what would have been a disastrous 4-1 loss to the Timberwolves. Their role players showed up. Jokic had his triple-double, played well, but it was their role players. Jokic had 16 assists because guess what? Cam Johnson and Spencer Jones and Christian Brown all made their shots. and now we go back to Minnesota. It feels like, to me, this is their last stand, the Timberwolves. They've got to win game six.

57:18Big Cat:I would say game six, yeah. That's the one that you'd circle. You hope that you get a big game from one of your role players. I don't know if you're going to get another IO game like you got the other night. No. I don't know if that's even possible for him to do ever again. But you've got to hope that somebody does something and plays out of their mind and just catches fire. I don't know who that guy's going to be. You might get the Nas Reed game.

57:37PFT Commenter:Yeah.

57:38Big Cat:I love Nas Reed. So maybe it's going to be him. Yeah, they had to win it, obviously. I thought the most impressive play of the night came from Rocky, the mascot of the Denver Nuggets. Did you see his shot from half court? I didn't. He was on top of three ladders. I think it was three ladders. Like, this dude was probably 150 feet in the air, threw the basketball over his head backwards from half court. What a stud. Swish. Rocky doesn't get enough credit for being an absolute stud of a mascot.

58:03PFT Commenter:What a stud.

58:04Big Cat:And then he dapped up Grand Hill shirtless. and Grant Hill, you can see Grant Hill is ready to risk it all for Rocky. Hell yes. Rocky's been working out. Hell yes. Yeah. This is one of those series where I could very easily see the Nuggets coming back, obviously because the Timberwolves are depleted right now, and then we're going to be like, watch out for the Nuggets. They just came back from 3-1. They're on a roll.

58:25PFT Commenter:Aaron Gordon's got to get healthy for me to say, watch out for the Nuggets.

58:28Big Cat:Aaron Gordon is not Michael Port Jr. No. That's what we've learned. He's not.

58:32PFT Commenter:He's got to get healthy, and I don't think he can.

58:35Big Cat:They miss having Michael Porter Jr. in that round. He provided a lot.

58:39PFT Commenter:Well, no, Aaron Gordon's better than Michael Porter Jr. In my mind. He's just hurt. He hasn't been playing.

58:43Big Cat:But Michael Porter Jr., he was a great role player for those Nuggets teams.

58:47PFT Commenter:Yeah, if their role players play well, they – Yeah, no, I'm still not going to say watch out, though. Oklahoma City's going to go to the NBA Finals unless there's a catastrophic injury. They're going to the NBA Finals. They're probably going to win the NBA Finals. Yeah, I would agree. So, what was that face, Max? Well, no. Maybe the Spurs.

59:06Big Cat:Maybe the Spurs. Lakers get healthy.

59:09PFT Commenter:Love it. I like this discourse. Lakers get healthy. LeBron.

59:14Big Cat:I mean, the Spurs have their number. Lakers get healthy. Watch out. It would be fun. It would be fun to see LeBron go on a run. No, no. It would be so fun to see LeBron go on a run. No, no. Come on. And you know he can do it. Oh, yeah. I forgot you're a LeBron stand. Let's just say, you know he can do it.

59:33PFT Commenter:Do you know what my spin zone is now with LeBron? Because it's like, you know, the discourse is going to get even more overwhelming that he's the GOAT over MJ. I'm just going strictly with LeBron fans are so sad that they can't enjoy LeBron like I enjoy LeBron. And all they can do is think about MJ and the GOAT conversation. Like, LeBron has an incredible game, and they immediately go to Twitter talking about MJ. It's sad. It's pathetic. I, me, guy like me, I just enjoy LeBron's greatness. I don't even talk about the debate.

1:00:04Big Cat:You watch LeBron and then you go to Twitter and get mad at the people that love LeBron.

1:00:08PFT Commenter:No, I watch LeBron and just enjoy his greatness. I don't even comment on it. That's how much I love watching how great he is. And it's not like you just brought up this conversation on this show. Right, exactly. No, I'm saying, though, I just love it. Yeah, it's great. It's how much I love watching LeBron. I don't even have to comment about how great he is. Right now, you're not commenting on it. Exactly. I'm not. I'm not. Because you're not I'm just enjoying it You're not triggered I'm enjoying the The greatness of LeBron Maybe LeBron fans Should try that Zach

1:00:35Big Cat:I like to comp LeBron To LeBron He's been so good In the league for so long You just go LeBron On LeBron stats Which era Which era of LeBron Would you have as your goat The current Whatever LeBron's still in the league Because LeBron just keeps Getting better This LeBron The LeBron that's That's throwing alley-oops To his balls Yeah Never seen it before We'll never see it again Yeah

1:00:55PFT Commenter:We might see it again You think we'll see it again Yeah Also, remember, it was a lamp.

1:00:58Big Cat:I guess modern medicine. Again, not. You think LeBron's got a few more seasons in him? What if we get both sons?

1:01:05PFT Commenter:I think, what's his name, Bryce Maximus, he's going to have some work to do. Oh, actually, maybe not. LeBron would just draft him.

1:01:14Big Cat:Yeah. I think if LeBron's still playing, he just goes to the Lakers just like Brownie did, right?

1:01:18PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:01:19Big Cat:Yeah. Three James on the court?

1:01:20PFT Commenter:Either way, I'm confident in this spin zone that it's going to work out for me that I'm just going to keep saying, That's pathetic that you have to do this debate. It's pathetic. Just enjoy LeBron's greatness like I do. Max, any comments on your Phillies firing their manager? I love Topper. He's a great guy. He was a really good manager for these Phillies the past couple years. Had to be done with this roster. He can't be the worst team in baseball. Change had to be made. Alex Cora reportedly denied the opportunity to coach this team and to that I say I don't fucking blame him because this is one of the oldest rosters in the league and they're in last place.

1:02:04What manager would be like, oh, this is a situation that I would love to attach my name to for the future of this franchise. I get it. Dave Dombrowski is a terrible, terrible general manager that is now just everywhere he goes, he just decimates franchises. And it's happening right now in Philadelphia.

1:02:28Big Cat:Would you say that maybe he's not a terrible general manager? Terrible. Because he got to the World Series and had some success. But he just puts them in a situation that, like, he went to the Red Sox. The Red Sox were 10 years of irrelevance. He did it to the White Sox. The White Sox were 10 years – or not White Sox. Tigers. Tigers. I get the White Sox and Tigers mixed up all the time. Very different. Not that different.

1:02:51PFT Commenter:One's an animal. One's a sock. Not that different. Well, no, that's actually multiple socks. Like one is a living, breathing animal. The other is not.

1:03:01Big Cat:You just get them confused because of their play-by-play announcer, Jason Panetti. I have no idea what that means. Okay. By the way, shout out to the White Sox. I went to the White Sox game on Saturday. The campfire milkshake is everything that you thought it would be. I saw that picture It is so good It is unreal good It's incredible Yeah

1:03:18PFT Commenter:So in summation Oh by the way Kyle Schwarber interview Which was an awesome awesome interview We taped it last week Just so everyone knows It was taped last week I think everyone saw When he was here with the Cubs Yeah He could do the math The manager gets fired But that has nothing to do with the interview The interview was awesome But just wanted to set that standard

1:03:36Big Cat:So is Alex Cora just being a vulture right now? Is he just circling Citi Field? Yeah Is that pretty much his game plan?

1:03:44PFT Commenter:Yeah, I think so. Max, do you think this is firing your manager? Do you think it salvages the season at all? It doesn't hurt. Like when we fired Girardi and brought in Rob Thompson, whatever year that was, the Phillies went on a run. So you're trying to do whatever you can to spark something in this clubhouse to turn it around. But I get that it's still only April, but you're nine games back in April. Just win a sweep a series. It's tough to win a baseball game. I know, but I'm saying if you could sweep a series, you'd feel great. I guess. That's all it takes. Sweep a series. Just go out and sweep a series.

1:04:28Big Cat:I don't know. Would you say firing the manager in baseball is the most inconsequential move that you can make in terms of the four major sports? Basketball. Firing the head coach is less consequential.

1:04:38PFT Commenter:Yeah, I feel like the manager in baseball, at least, because you're with them every day. Lineup changes. There's a lot more. I think it's more so just like it changes the mentality of the clubhouse. Yeah. Which is what you need.

1:04:50Big Cat:It makes everybody feel bad that they got their boss. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Honestly, yes. Yeah. Like, great job. I hope you're happy with yourself. Yeah. And baseball is such a mental game that one thing like that could really wake up a ball team. Do you think that maybe the assistant general manager for the Eagles, stepping away from the Birds, he's got a new project in mind. Do you think he wants to go manage the Phillies as a general manager? Am I breaking this news to you for the first time? Yes, I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, the Eagles assistant GM.

1:05:23PFT Commenter:Was he hired when he was like 12? Yeah, he's been there for a long time. He's been there forever. In. In. I don't know if you're fucking with me.

1:05:33Big Cat:he has not expressed interest in the Phillies job, but he says that he's stepping away from the Eagles for a new challenge. Oh, fuck yeah. Phils. That sounds great.

1:05:44PFT Commenter:I got a prediction. I think the Phillies are going to go on a little bit of a run. Look at their schedule. A little bit of a run. Max is out. A little bit of a run. I would like them to. I mean, I'm not saying the season's over yet, but it's like... Okay. It's just the team's so old, and the guys were... Trey Turner has been such a fucking disappointment. Whatever.

1:06:11Big Cat:It's disgusting how you speak about some of these guys, Max. Yeah, it is. It's absolute trash. It's trash. It's rubbish. Show some appreciation. The guy got you to a World Series, man. Fleming. In better news, you're still flyered up. Yeah, that was also tough. You also could be in the midst of a meltdown there and fly it up You should think about refliering from sports Because all your teams right now are breaking your heart Yeah The Flyers All four teams have made the playoffs in the past calendar In the, no, not calendar year In the past year Think about this In the past year, all four teams have made the playoffs And you lost the press Icy Lib Yeah Lost the press

1:06:49PFT Commenter:Yeah, Pickensburg was ready to go We gotta get this going But Pickensburg won't go to Philly I know, that is why Pickensburg has to go to Philly. Yeah. Like, he has to go to Philly. But also, Icy Vert has to, like, after the press-off. He's got scoliosis, dude. Two out of three. The Penguins have won. You've got to shift the momentum back. Pickensburg's got to go to Philly for the press. I know. People are saying Pickensburg will lose it because he tried to call it forfeit and that he won the second press-off. But I think the second press-off has to happen in Philly. If Pickensburg shows up and Icy Vert doesn't for game six, then I'll give it award the press off to Pickensburg.

1:07:31Big Cat:Did you see the guy with the sign last night?

1:07:33PFT Commenter:What did he say?

1:07:33Big Cat:I don't know. It was just some guy that was holding a sign. I think it came from Pickensburg. And then this one Flyers fan was walking by. He had like a side of the face slash neck tattoo and got in his face. And then the camera just cut away. We don't know what happened after that. Love it. But you can extrapolate based on when the camera cut off.

1:07:51PFT Commenter:We also had the meltdown of all meltdowns on Sunday night, which we recorded beforehand. But the Oilers losing in overtime and Whitney just not understanding how a puck works. All right. He brought up a good point, which was a throwback to this podcast.

1:08:09Big Cat:What? The parallax effect? Yeah. I told him about that. Yeah. I had to sit Whitney down. I was like, Whitney, I got something for you.

1:08:15PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah. He tweeted after. I knew that. I was like, there's no way he came up with this himself.

1:08:18Big Cat:He was tweeting it as I was explaining it to him because he was so excited that he had something that he could fall back on. Now, the parallax effect is a real thing in hockey. Yeah. There's a video that you can watch on YouTube if you look up the parallax effect. The only problem with this, and I intentionally didn't tell Whitney this until after he tweeted it out and he got his hopes up. the camera angle that they use where it's just slightly behind the crossbar in the crease that actually hurts his argument with the parallax effect if it had been an angle that was in front of the goal then that might have helped him i was watching the game max you were there hank you were

1:08:57PFT Commenter:there we were watching the game after we recorded and god bless ryan whitney because he was it was awkward being in the room he was doing a selfie video being like how could this be a good goal well all of us were sitting there like dude that was definitely a good goal and i get it you couldn't actually see it because the skate was above the puck but everyone who's got a brain was like yeah that's a good goal he and i'm not saying whitney doesn't have a brain he literally was just every fan trying to cope in that moment i drove him to his hotel after it was just like yeah man sorry like that sucks i think he finally realized he came came to grips with he's like yeah that was

1:09:31Big Cat:probably in well you know how you were saying the other day that if you're if you're crying about unwritten rules you're the loser after a game if you've got ryan whitney crying about the laws of physics after a game he's that's that's a losing cope argument that he's got i appreciate it is

1:09:45PFT Commenter:his his fervor though yeah that was that was exactly what every fan of the oilers was going through in that moment basically screaming about how you can't actually see it knowing in their

1:09:55Big Cat:heart of hearts that the puck went over the line yeah when whit is appealing to neil degrasse tyson and he's lost. Yeah. Just count that as no. Zach just made a pretty good point back here. Okay. Zach, would you like to share with the class? Things did take a turn once you put the jacket back on, Peter. Oh, no. I just did the Grinch smile.

1:10:15PFT Commenter:Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah, it did.

1:10:18Big Cat:You said you'd never do it. That's brutal. Do what? You said you'd never wear the jacket again. When did I say that? I don't know. Zach told me you said that you'd never wear it again. I don't remember saying that. It felt like it. That doesn't sound like something I'd say. I might have said that. It just felt right. I was trying to support my boy, Whit, when he was in the studio, and then everything just fell apart for him. Damn it. Which sucks.

1:10:45PFT Commenter:Yeah, it was great having Whitney.

1:10:46Big Cat:I'm rooting for him.

1:10:47PFT Commenter:You know? He was, when we were watching, because I know he mentioned it on the podcast, but watching McDavid, he pointed it out. I love watching games with guys like Whitney who can explain shit to you, But he pointed out the exact moment where there was a point where McDavid had a rush, would have probably scored, but didn't have that lateral side to side to side quickness. He's missing a little of that. And he got stonewalled. And it's just like shit. And he's right at that moment when he's like, that's a goal if he's healthy. So it sucks for the Oilers right now. They're in a bad spot. Down 3-1.

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1:13:08PFT Commenter:Okay, Hot Seat, Cool Throne. Hey, before we do Hot Seat, Cool Throne, quick announcement. We are one week away from our live show. Tuesday, May 5th in LA. Go buy tickets. 10-year anniversary. We got Jerry O 'Connell. We got Rosillo. We got Blake Griffin. It's going to be a great live show. Come out and hang with us. And we're also going to tell stories about Max's bachelor party because we're not going to be releasing the live show. So we're going to tell some out of pocket stories.

1:13:36Big Cat:And Max's parents are going to be there.

1:13:37PFT Commenter:And Max's parents are listening. We still got to figure. No, no, they're not listening. We got to figure out. They're going to listen to everything that they said. They're listening to this right now.

1:13:42Big Cat:They're going to know every place that you got rubbed. What's that? That. Every spot. It's just not.

1:13:50PFT Commenter:by Jerry O 'Connell is what he meant to say by Jerry O 'Connell that is just not gonna happen

1:13:58Big Cat:we should we actually should do the thing where we put the noise canceling headphones like you see people wear on game shows when they can't hear the answers they should have to wear those in certain segments

1:14:07PFT Commenter:and also we have our book the AWL's I think we have the final day if you pre-order the book and you write we've tweeted this submission form we put it on all our social we'll do it again if you pre-order the book and prove that you pre-ordered the book you can write a paragraph and we're going to pick five people to be in the book one AWL did point out to me which would have been very funny if we had just done this and that was the book just the entire book was just the AWL's writing like sucking our dicks we just didn't write a word that would have been the best way

1:14:42Big Cat:easier it would have saved me about 60 hours in the last week

1:14:47PFT Commenter:I'll tell you what though PFT because we submitted our book for final edits. As much as it was painful writing it, because we procrastinated severely, and PFT and I wrote basically the majority of the book in the last two weeks, finishing doing that feels incredible. I've had so much free time, and by free time I mean no free time, but free time where I can just sit and watch playoff games and scroll Twitter.

1:15:14Big Cat:No, it feels really good to have it done. I actually didn't mind the process. I didn't mind the writing of it. It was mostly just like finding the time and then having that time be dedicated to doing

1:15:23PFT Commenter:any task in your head.

1:15:24Big Cat:Yeah. I like the part of writing. It was it was cool because I got to think back over the years and remember some stuff and dig into some stuff that I hadn't really considered, you know, since like 2017, 2018. So I appreciate that. It actually like made me love you guys even a little bit more because I got to go down memory lane a little bit.

1:15:43PFT Commenter:Yeah. But it's just more that we're children. Yeah. Like any task. Ugh. I have to do that. Right. Ugh. I got to put my shoes on. No. All right, Hank. Hot seat. Cool drunk. My hot seat's the World Cup. Why? Every, just every, I mean, soccer in general is a joke, but every story that comes out about the World Cup. Wait, wait, wait.

1:16:05Big Cat:The World Cup's in the hot seat because soccer sucks. Soccer in general is a joke. Every news story I see about the World Cup, I'm like, yeah, I'm happy I don't like soccer. Okay. Also, tune in to our live soccer stream that we're doing today.

1:16:21PFT Commenter:so not live close to live

1:16:24Big Cat:very not live Max it's not live as possible it's deader than the world cup

1:16:30PFT Commenter:set your calendars for July we should not cut that because you get an eh but yeah soccer is a fucking joke

1:16:36Big Cat:but Hank I agree with you and this world cup does seem like it's more fucked up than most but just when you're going into it think about it the same way you think of like you remember when the Olympics were over in Sochi and when the World Cup was in Qatar last time, there's a big, big audience out there that really wants to hear how shitty everything is about the World Cup because FIFA is the most corrupt organization in the world. But also people love to read stories about how bad everything's going to be. And it seems like everything is really bad. They're covering up the logos. You see Mercedes-Benz.

1:17:08They have to cover up the logo on the actual stadium because it's not an official FIFA sponsor. Oh, my God. they're charging like insane that to me is actually like the one that I don't care about that at all like they're char but the the charging of like the trains and just right transportation just to get to the World Cup no tailgating like going to the World Cup is impossible because of the tickets are so expensive just everything about it seems like an absolute nightmare and it seems like day by day there's just more stores coming out so just in general hot seat world cup i'm sure more will come up there will be it's it is it sounds like it's

1:17:43Big Cat:gonna be like the least fan friendly possible event that you could ever imagine i mean like i think it's 250 bucks for parking at one of the games one of those 500 500 bucks to park at one of the games and tailgate obviously a lot of the stadiums you cannot physically walk to although i did see and i hope this does happen i saw like some british fan group saying like okay they're going to charge us 150 bucks to walk walk from new york out to the meadowlands we can just walk we can just walk we're not gonna take the train um it's all highways i would actually like to see like a big group of british hooligans just walking through the tunnel just walk the entire highway

1:18:21PFT Commenter:do the uh what's that mall called that mall's sick american yeah american dream yeah just just tailgating an american dream yeah i want to be sick yeah a bunch of shirtless soccer hooligans

1:18:33Big Cat:just walking the Lincoln Tunnel. My other hot seat is Tiramisu. Oh. I thought this was a cool story. In the UK, they set the new world record for the longest Tiramisu ever made. How long? It's like four football fields long. Wait, you mean like soccer? American football, I believe. Four pitches long. I talked to our Tiramisu expert. He said it's kind of a bullshit record. it's not it's not actually one big tiramisu it's just a bunch of tiramisu next to each other i think they did this with a cheesesteak a few years ago yeah they claimed it to be a world record but it's just a bunch of cheesesteaks next to each other i'm not i'm not a fan of this i agree this

1:19:13PFT Commenter:is not a tiramisu it has to be one long tiramisu that's connected the entire way through so yeah hot seat tiramisu okay you really know tiramisu hang yeah i thought well i was gonna put it on my cool throne and then and then i talked to the expert and he's like no no no no no it's bullshit The expert being Shane. It's a bullshit masseuse. It's a bullshit masseuse. My cool throwing's Young Ho Ku. Yeah. Yeah. So last year against the Patriots, he had that field goal where he just missed the ball, kicked the ground, didn't make contact with the ball. I think he got injured too. And then a story came out yesterday that there was a man in Kentucky that laughed so hard at the Bosch field goal.

1:19:53it triggered a seizure which sent him to the hospital but at the hospital doctors discovered when they were like going through him that there was a tennis ball size brain tumor and then they were able to you know find that remove it and it was deemed not cancerous so that missed field goal might have saved the guy's life that is i love this guy laughed that hard

1:20:15Big Cat:it's awesome he yeah the field goal was so terrible i mean it was objectively that funny And now, yeah, so now he's got a horse running in the Derby. Does he? Yeah, so the guy that passed out, that had the seizure, they found that he had a tumor inside of his head, and so now that guy owns a horse. I believe that the horse's name is, hang on, let me look this up, because I was just reading about this. He should name it after, yeah. He should name it Amani? Yeah, just Ku. What is it? Further ado. Okay. Yeah. So I believe he is a part owner of Further Ado who's running the Kentucky Derby. Further Acou.

1:20:54Big Cat:And I think, yeah, I think. Nice. I think Acou might be going to the Kentucky Derby. Hell yes. Yeah. As a colonel, we have the opportunity to nominate another person for a colonelship.

1:21:06PFT Commenter:Mm-hmm.

1:21:07Big Cat:Young Ho Ku. I feel like Young Ho Ku. I'd agree. Should be a colonel. I'd like to nominate him.

1:21:11PFT Commenter:We have Randy Moss on Friday for all Kentucky Derby stuff. So we'll ask him about this. if the brain tumor guy's got a chance in life. It's a good story. And also in the Kentucky Derby. Yeah. Okay, PFT. That's it? No. That's it. No other hot seats? Anything else? No other hot seats? Love? No. Live? What about it? Laugh? An event canceled? Postponed. I think it's a city in New Orleans. I mean, the city of New Orleans is known to be corrupt. I think they're taking advantage of Liv's. Yeah. Sounds like it. New Orleans said they're going to cancel the event until Liv figures out their financial structure.

1:22:00Big Cat:Okay. What does that mean? I don't know. But Liv has already put a bunch of, like, they've already spent a bunch of money in New Orleans, paid New Orleans a bunch of money. It's kind of a bullshit move from New Orleans. Okay. So Liv is, but again, it's not really. And they're saying it's going to be postponed. Yeah, it's not bullshit. It's postponed.

1:22:14PFT Commenter:You know people at Liv, right? Do you have a contact? Yeah. I would like you to start getting... Well, no. I mean, we went out a couple times. I didn't know if that person is still there. I would like you to start getting official propaganda talking points whenever we bring up Liv. I'd like you to come ready to go with the Liv spin on it. You know? What? It's insane that Liv has never paid this podcast. Yeah. The amount of press that we give Liv is worth so much money, and we haven't gotten a dollar. Although now, maybe not. Because we're just trash. The NBA's never paid us. The NFL's never paid us.

1:22:53Liv is not the NBA or the NFL. It could be. We're the only ones talking about Liv. It could be.

1:22:59Big Cat:That's not true. You're holding out hope. Yeah. I would also say that most of the stuff that we've said about Liv has not been great. No. We got the number one Liv fanboy in the world.

1:23:08PFT Commenter:They should be paying Hank specifically. Correct. Maybe they are. Yeah, they probably are. They should be. Okay.

1:23:14Big Cat:PFT? Well, Liv should be releasing a statement today. Is there a statement that's out? Not that I've seen. Well, hey, so I'm reading this from NOLA News. They reported that Liv postponed the event, not the city. The league notified state officials on Friday they want to pivot from the June 25th tournament scheduled for City Parks Bayou Oaks Golf Course, potentially reschedule a smaller exposition style tournament this fall. so they're just pivoting pivoting it's not even a postponement in june oh so they're smart man okay yeah it's too hot it's just pivoting pft uh my hot seat is farts there's a great study that came out yesterday let me ask you if you were to guess yeah would you say that men's farts or women's farts smell worse women's don't fart yeah but but when women do they smell worse what was that hank women don't fart women don't fart that's a that's a fair answer no women do

1:24:13PFT Commenter:fart they just save it up so much that when it comes out it's gross max what do you think i think that makes sense what big hat just said because i'm farting all day if there's like the slight inkling of a fart coming from my butt i'm letting it rip right like if like women are like Like, oh, no, I have to fart. I need to save everything in my body to make sure I'm in a good spot to let this fart out.

1:24:37Big Cat:Yeah, they have to go to, like, a hermetically sealed chamber.

1:24:40PFT Commenter:Speaking of, can I... Hey, can you set me up? You know how we have the on-air signs outside of the studios? Can you get a fart sign outside of my office? No. Because there's times when I have the door closed, and I'll just let it rip, and then someone will walk in. I'll be like, don't come in here. I need everyone to know. Come on. Why can't you do that? You have to get it synced up to your body. Well, no. There's just a switch, and I'll flip it. I'll be like, I'm about to rip. Oh, yeah. Because I know when I'm about to rip.

1:25:06Big Cat:Or you get a button that just locks your door from your desk. Yeah. Matt Lauer had one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Zach, what do you think? Men or women? I kind of agree with the woman talking point of like, they're letting them bake, you know? Yeah. They're almost fine aging them. So when it rips, it could be catastrophic. It's concentrated. Yeah. All right. So they did a study on it and the results might shock you. Women, their farts smell worse, but they don't let out as much gas per fart. So it's like super -

1:25:40PFT Commenter:So not shocking at all for what we said.

1:25:42Big Cat:Well, you were talking about like saving it up for a long time when you let it out. But men, when they fart, when they fart one time, they let out a bigger fart. Women, when they let out a fart, the volume of gas is smaller, but it's super, super concentrated.

1:25:56PFT Commenter:But isn't that because also men are just bigger? We're just fucking diesels?

1:25:59Big Cat:It could be, yeah, because we got our bodies, like, process the gas maybe better. Yeah. You might say.

1:26:04PFT Commenter:No, that makes sense. When a woman farts, it's the most disgusting thing in the entire world. When a guy farts, it smells good.

1:26:10Big Cat:Yeah. My farts. My farts are actually the perfect amount of fart. But yeah. So they did that study and it came out and now women are trying to, they're calling bullshit on the study. Basically saying, well, dudes are grosser. They smell worse all day long because they're constantly farting. All true. Yeah. But your farts smell much worse than ours. Stop farting. Yeah. So deal with it. Yeah. Then my cool throne is Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. Because he just got... Did he sign the tag thing? No. He's been issued a tag.

1:26:41PFT Commenter:Steelers have issued like a right of first refusal where if he plays, he has to play for them. Otherwise, another team would have to pay more.

1:26:49Big Cat:It's the very rarely used right of first refusal tag. On a human, yeah. Yeah, basically they're just trying to make Aaron just say that you're going to show up. That's really, it's kind of a simp move on the Steelers part. They just want Aaron to issue one statement being like, I plan on playing for the Steelers next year. Correct. Then they can forget all this. But yeah, it's a right of first refusal tag where I think it comes with a baked in 10 % raise for him. But then if another team can offer him a contract, then the Steelers can say, yes, we'll take it or no, we won't take it. it feels like the Steelers are just doing everything trying to make Aaron.

1:27:25Big Cat:Like in the draft, they got another quarterback. They just keep doing moves hoping that he's going to say, yes, I will be your quarterback. You can stop worrying.

1:27:34PFT Commenter:Yeah, please. Okay, my hot seat is Spotify playlists. Being public. There might have been a Spotify playlist that was sent between two alleged lovers that was called Turning the Corner, I believe? Turning the page. Turning the page. after four losses by the Tennessee Titans in 2022.

1:27:56PFT Commenter:This story just will never end. I don't know what else to say.

1:27:59Big Cat:There's a big footprint out there.

1:28:01PFT Commenter:House Party, My Love, Pump It Louder, Raise Your Glass, Pink. Kind of a shitty playlist, if we're being honest.

1:28:10Big Cat:I didn't know that making playlists for people was still a thing.

1:28:13PFT Commenter:I didn't either. But it's very funny that this now is another chapter in the Rossini Vrabel lore is we got shared playlists off of losing streaks. Shout out, by the way, David Cavucci. Oh, it's Foya Ball, yeah. Yeah, Foya Ball. I don't know. It's just like, hat tip, dude. I don't know how you did this, but you did it in hat tip. Incredible.

1:28:37Big Cat:Foya Ball does good work. Yeah. Go read Foya Ball every now and then. Yeah, I followed him immediately.

1:28:41PFT Commenter:I was like, this guy's onto some shit.

1:28:42Big Cat:Yeah, I didn't know that you could share a playlist like that or like create and curate one for somebody. And I don't think I've done that since middle school.

1:28:52PFT Commenter:No.

1:28:52Big Cat:Maybe freshman year.

1:28:54PFT Commenter:No. Dance the Night Away, Van Halen. Yeah. And then there was, did I see that maybe some of them were confirmed played in a practice?

1:29:02Big Cat:There was a report that on Vrabel's birthday, he had his own special playlist going. Was it turning the page? I don't know if it was a turn the page playlist or not. Wait, it's turn the page on there? Bob Seger? No. it's not not a seager bar i haven't looked this up but since they didn't put turn the page on there i don't think it can turn the page i think they lost their next game too uh they might have i don't think that stopped losing streak you have to have turn the page on the turn of the page

1:29:32PFT Commenter:playlist yeah yeah you're right you're absolutely right okay uh so that was my hot seat my cool throne i got a couple one is a clarification clarification um i don't know if i misspoke but I had a few people saying I guess maybe on Monday's show I said I opened my roof. We said it back here. When you said it we were like Why don't you guys say anything? Because we're like dude how rich is this guy? So yeah why did you say that's what a producer is supposed to do? But I clarified The way you said it we were like holy shit he's got a sick roof. Jim Irsay. People thought I was opening my roof to my house.

1:30:13Big Cat:Jackie Kennedy did that one time. Yeah.

1:30:16PFT Commenter:No, I have a lot of people in Chicago. I know PFT has it. I think. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

1:30:22Big Cat:Do you have a roof deck? I do, yeah.

1:30:24PFT Commenter:I didn't know what I was going to get thrown into here. No, I know PFT has other people in this office. On top of the garage, because we have alleys here in Chicago, on top of the garage is a roof deck. And so when I say I opened my roof deck, which I think I missed the word deck, when i say that i mean i took the covers off the couch and took the cover off the tv and turned on the tv that was me opening my roof deck for the spring and when i say i did that my wife did all that so that was the clarification clarification yeah i i knew what you meant at the

1:30:58Big Cat:time when you said it's like yeah opening your roof i when you said i was yeah he means that like he has mentally allowed himself to spend time outdoors correct yes it was literally turning on

1:31:08PFT Commenter:the tv for the first time since like in in november you put the covers on the couch you put the cover on the tv and you're like i'll see you a little bit i'll see you in a few months boys opening the roof a retractable roof that would be sick though it would be cool now here is where it gets a little confusing i do actually have a perugula i believe it's called the root the roof yeah yeah yeah the thing that goes over pergola and that is retractable and that i can hit it with a remote

1:31:36Big Cat:okay so you got temporary shade yeah they can be set up and it like goes like that you know like

1:31:41PFT Commenter:it doesn't go it doesn't it's not two big pieces that go back it's it's a bunch of little slits that go like that you know what i'm saying right is that open yeah i didn't open that okay so your roof's not open i haven't opened i you know what i'll tweet it like jim or say when i do open that for the first time i'll be like opening the roof the roof is open but shade you're gonna want the shade yeah dude listen there's nothing i i i just can't if you haven't a pft's talked about it at length but like being able to watch tv outside just makes you feel like a better human even though you're doing exactly the same shitty thing that you do when you're sitting inside yeah when

1:32:16Big Cat:i when i watch like a daytime baseball game outside on a saturday i feel like i'm going

1:32:20PFT Commenter:camping i watched the entire world series on on my roof deck and it was incredible yeah like this

1:32:25Big Cat:is just the best nothing like the great outdoors yeah i'm on a sofa maybe a hammock watching tv

1:32:31PFT Commenter:Maybe get a sweatshirt, smoke a little weed, watch some TV, like, you know, 9 p.m., a little chill in the air, and you're like, wow, really did it today. Really fucking did it today.

1:32:42Big Cat:In the great hammock debate of 2025. Yeah. Shit. What? Crap. Hammocks, shit. I love hammocks. I went up to my rooftop. Hammocks like soccer. In preparation for opening up my roof the other week, I went up there. Whoa, dude. I looked at the hammock. Hammocks in bad shape. hammock i don't think it survived the winter i think i might have to that might become firewood now yeah we might have to sell it for parts yeah so r.i.p might have to get a new one r.i.p uh

1:33:12PFT Commenter:but yeah that's that's just a clarification uh my other cool throne um is uh michael rubin because he moved his fourth of july party uh so it wouldn't conflict with taylor swift's wedding what a guy has nothing to do with the fact that a bunch of celebrities wouldn't go to his fourth July party and then also maybe he wants an invite to Taylor Swift's wedding. I got to be honest. I didn't read the article. I just saw that he moved it. What a guy. We know that he's available that weekend. Yeah, exactly. He can be invited.

1:33:42Big Cat:Michael Rubin. Now, I think his calendar, it is free. He didn't want to conflict. Should we get him to Max's wedding?

1:33:48PFT Commenter:Yeah. Oh, Max, you should probably move yours. You're conflicting with Taylor Swift. You didn't think about that. What if you get invited? I don't want to say exactly. I don't want to they're just stealing my whole flow bar for bar yeah we got engaged the same day and we're getting married on the same day oh man it's insane yep you're that much of a Swifty it's bullshit it's bullshit also cool although technically I'm stealing theirs because they got engaged before me oh okay but it was day after cool thrown also Duke because Cooper Flagg and Con Caniple finished 1-2 in the rookie of the year so they must have won the title last year Really good team.

1:34:27PFT Commenter:Really good team. Right? Has that ever happened before? No, they didn't. Oh, they didn't? What happened? They lost. Did they have a big lead? I forgot. It was a long time ago. It was only a year ago. Did they make any field goals in the last eight minutes of the game?

1:34:40Big Cat:Surely they made a field goal in the last eight minutes of the game. Who's to know? Who's to say? It's like Will Chamberlain's 100-point game.

1:34:49PFT Commenter:We didn't have any video of it. Yeah.

1:34:51Big Cat:Okay, go ahead, Zach. But they had really good backup, so the team, after they left, Yeah. Probably did better. Yeah. My hot seat this week is going to be a Clay Thompson and Magnus Doughton because there may be trouble in paradise. I would say so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I read something online and apparently this goes back to like a couple years ago.

1:35:12PFT Commenter:Did Clay Thompson have a cheating book that he would keep like details of every time he

1:35:18Big Cat:cheated on his girlfriend in? I didn't see that. I might have gotten God on that, but it looked real.

1:35:24PFT Commenter:I have a question. Zach, Megan Thee Stallion is a beautiful woman. Bullshit that Clay cheated. Is there... How am I going to say this? Is there any responsibility to have a wet-ass pussy all the time?

1:35:48PFT Commenter:She's saying wet-ass pussy, right? No.

1:35:50Big Cat:Different...

1:35:51PFT Commenter:That's not Megan Thee Stallion?

1:35:52Big Cat:No, different artist, yeah. That was Cardi B. I thought that was Cardi B and negative 7 Actually yes

1:35:58PFT Commenter:I retract I apologize for that you're definitely correct So a song wet ass pussy Like If I had a song I hit all my parlays like you would think Then I gotta hit all my parlays Right What are you shaking your head Max

1:36:15Big Cat:It's also on Clay because if you're Clay It's your duty to keep that pussy wet This has got Taylor Swift

1:36:21PFT Commenter:I'm asking questions I'm not saying anything. I'm not saying Megan Thee Stallion. Again, I'm team Megan Thee Stallion. Are you saying because she didn't? No, I'm asking if you do have to. If you make the song Wet Ass Pussy, does the pussy always have to be wet ass?

1:36:39PFT Commenter:We're like Plato and Socrates here. We're just asking philosophical questions. It has nothing to do with this. Who's to say she doesn't? I don't know. I'm asking. I was just asking. I'm thinking maybe it might be too wet. See, you're right. That's also what I was thinking.

1:36:53Big Cat:Let's think about this. If it's too wet, maybe clay can't. What happens to clay when there's too much moisture? Turns into mud. Also, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:37:02PFT Commenter:Also, Splash Brothers, wet-ass pussy. That's just water everywhere.

1:37:05Big Cat:That's a tsunami. Right. That's actually a drowning hazard. Yeah. Memes what? Say something, memes. You probably have to put on a snorkeling outfit to go down on it.

1:37:14PFT Commenter:We're just asking questions. No, the mud line was good. Yeah, the mud, clay.

1:37:18Big Cat:All right. So, yeah. I did find this. So Clay, there was a cheating diary that Clay kept in 2019. So his ex-girlfriend posted this online, and it's just got Clay talking about every girl that he slept with while he was cheating on his girlfriend at the time. And he kept it handwritten in a journal.

1:37:37PFT Commenter:Oh. Yeah. So I'm team Megan Thee Stallion. I just want that on the record. Didn't sound like it. I was asking a question, Max. We got to the bottom. You were also asking a question when you were questioning. questioning wrong yes wrong i was demanding i'm not demanding to see wet ass pussy i might so

1:37:56Big Cat:also let's think about it because like the the pussy might have been wet at the time when she wrote wet ass pussy right but maybe that's on clay for not keeping that pussy wet ass yeah no

1:38:06PFT Commenter:this is clay's fault i'm yeah we're team megan the stallion we want to uh put out a quote card pardon my take team megan the stallion 100 percent disavow clay it's like with uh you know Unless the pussy was... I can't say it.

1:38:25Big Cat:With great power comes great responsibility. So if you're Clay, you have a... It's almost like you're a custodian of that wet pussy. Yeah, right. Keep it going. Oh, man. Keep that shit flowing, Clay.

1:38:34PFT Commenter:He's a weatherman.

1:38:37Big Cat:Today. Megan, if you want to come on the podcast to discuss...

1:38:40PFT Commenter:We'd love to discuss the intricacies of wet ass pussy. Of your pussy. But like respectfully and in a...

1:38:47Big Cat:Oh, it's all due respect. Yeah, all due respect in a pro-feminist way. Yeah, yeah. Like, I want you to feel empowered discussing your vagina and intimate details.

1:38:54PFT Commenter:We're putting all due respect as a coverall for everything we just said. The last 10 minutes has been under the bylaws of all due respect. We're doing VAR, all due respect. Okay, Zach, what was your second one? Try not to get us in trouble on this cool throne, too.

1:39:10Big Cat:I got you. My cool throne today is going to be Dave Portnoy, because you say he's living his dream. Oh. You got a horse in Kentucky Oaks. Kentucky Oaks, yes.

1:39:18PFT Commenter:Yes, very exciting.

1:39:19Big Cat:I tried to do a little bit of research. I wasn't able to find any gray that ever won the Oaks in the last grade when the Derby was 2005. So it could maybe be some history in the making.

1:39:28PFT Commenter:It's pretty nuts. I was talking to Dave about it on Sunday, I believe. But this is why you get in the game. This is the biggest weekend in horse racing outside of having a horse in the Breeders' Cup. This is it. The Kentucky Oaks is a big, big deal Friday before the Kentucky Derby. It's awesome. so hopefully it wins yeah so it's his dream hope we get to see it to fruition pretty sick nice suck up there i can uh pivot uh you guys see the fight with the rangers fan and the yankees fan

1:39:58Big Cat:yeah absolute ass kicking yeah high ground wins i agree i think somebody hit with a beer bat that's tough that's tough yeah it did it was like a beat down with the bat where the guy was like on the ground yeah which honestly like it's more emasculating than it is painful beer bat like it's It's made out of plastic, so it probably doesn't hurt that much. But if you get your ass kicked and then you're getting hit in the face with an empty beer bat. It's not good. You just got to crawl away.

1:40:23PFT Commenter:It's no bueno. It's no bueno. No, no, no, no, no bueno. Is baseball the number one getting to a fight in the stand sport? No. Well, Raiders games. Not anymore. Yeah, true. Raiders and Chargers games when they were in San Diego. That would be awesome.

1:40:41Big Cat:I would say just football in general. Yeah. But if Eagles games, if you look at like baseball has so many more games during the season, there's probably more fights, a lot more fights during a baseball regular season than football. But per capita. Yeah. You go to an NFL game on Sunday. You're looking at going like eight rounds.

1:40:58PFT Commenter:Yeah. Also, baseball, like a lot of games aren't sold out. I feel like if you have the ability to move seats, you're not going to get in a fight as, you know, you're on top of each other. That sort of thing. Okay, let's get to our interview with Kyle Schwarber. Reminder, we taped it last week when he was in town to play the Cubs. Great, great interview with Kyle Schwarber.

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1:42:42PFT Commenter:schwarber okay we now welcome on a very very very very very special guest it's been nine years but it is kyle schwarber back on the show in studio and in those nine years i don't think you realize this that this this might be the the most welcoming interview you'll ever do in your life because you are the the most beloved universally beloved athlete on this show it's true because you got cubs me pft nats max phillies and then hank red socks we're literally the kyle schwarber podcast yeah we've been passing you around you we you are like everyone if we have a big fight about something we can all agree we'll like schwarber's the man well i appreciate that and part of it's my fault for stinking for a little bit but now you know but get passed around but uh yeah but uh happy to be here yeah i mean like it's funny we were talking about nine years ago that we were just sitting on the table out there in mesa right behind the practice field yep yeah talking about it all you were and you i remember i think i think you were the we got theo with the mean tweets he fell for it but you didn't so that was credit to you Yeah, that's right.

1:43:56PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah, I know.

1:43:57Big Cat:It's great to have you back on. I was just going to ask you, like, if you look at where your career's gone so far and you see those teams and you go to the Hall of Fame, are you going in as a gnat or a Red Sox?

1:44:12That's a great question. First off, I hope I make it there. That'd be awesome. Not really banking on it, but.

1:44:20PFT Commenter:Oh, you're selling yourself short. You're selling yourself short. It's like, yeah, I don't know.

1:44:26Big Cat:No, but to Big Cat's point, like, you are a guy where, even though you have been passed around this podcast and we've all enjoyed it, we don't want to let you go. Like, I feel like you're a guy that every team wants to stick around, but for whatever reason you did, now you've got your forever home, it feels like, in Philly. But you're just, like, the funnest player to watch. Well, that's a compliment. Thank you. I mean, it's, you know, I always say, like, I always just try to be me. You know, I'm never, you know, at the end of the day, we get to play a game. And I know that there's a lot of money at stake and there's a lot of different things.

1:45:05And we play to win championships. Like, that's, you know, something I learned, you know, from the young age, right? Like, I've never, you know, going and starting in college, right? Like, learning how to win college. Then you get drafted. You make the playoffs your first year, win a World Series your second year, made the playoffs pretty much every year except one. That's why I play. Being able to have that World Series in Chicago and to see the pandemonium, the madness, the parade, everything, it gives you goosebumps. and that's what drives you. And even those losses in the playoffs, it doesn't matter what year it is, it hurts just as much as the year before.

1:45:58And that's what keeps driving you to get back to those situations and to get back to those spots and to try to see if you can know if something changes, the next thing you know you're finding yourself in a position to hold up a trophy again.

1:46:12PFT Commenter:Yeah. I don't think people realize that you mentioned being in the playoffs every year but one. And there's some Kyle Schwerber stats that are pretty shocking and not, like, shocking. I expect it out of you. But when you do, like, picture the history of the game, you know that you have the most NLCS home runs all time? That's a good stat. Do you know that you have the most postseason home runs by a left-hander? Did you know that? Yeah, I knew that one. Yeah. And Reggie Jackson, Mr. October, is second, which is, that's pretty insane. Like, literally Mr. October. You have five more than him now.

1:46:47PFT Commenter:That's why pretty good is that most postseason lead off home runs. So, yeah, you've been in these big games and you've delivered in these big games. Yeah, I don't know, man. It's like, you know, that's I always say postseason baseball is like the most purest form of baseball because no one really gives. Are we allowed to cuss? Yeah, fuck you want. Okay, perfect. No one really gives a shit about if you're hitting 400 or if you're hitting nothing. It's about that you win the game at the end of the day, right? And you play a course of 162 games throughout the year to put yourself in that position.

1:47:25And it's not like we're collecting the paycheck in the postseason, right? You're playing for something bigger than that. You're playing to win baseball games. You're playing to be remembered. And like, that's, it's such a cool format and, you know, it's a tournament style, right? It's, it's not like the best team always wins. You know, it's not like the team with the best record is going to go out there and win the world series. I think that's why it's, it's such a cool thing that you get to go out there and just worry about trying to win a baseball game versus how are you doing right now? Am I hitting?

1:48:08Am I having good at bats? Am I doing this or that? No, it's about like, all right, I just got to figure out a way to try to help us win a game right now.

1:48:17PFT Commenter:Yeah. How many times when you hit a home run do you know the second you make contact? I can't say. I would say very high chance, probably over 95%. That's so sick. So it's got to feel the best feeling when it's just like effortless. Yeah, I mean, I had one last night, actually. I thought, like, I mean, I stood there. And I was like, man, I crushed this ball. And, like, normally you see the ball get small. And it gets small. And the wind was blowing in. And I was like, man, that ball's going to go out easy. And then all of a sudden I look at it like I'm hitting, like, the jog running. And our first base coach starts giving me the go, go, go.

1:49:08I'm like, what's happening right now? And, you know, they review it. They call it a home run. They review it. They call stands. It was going to be a really hard one to overturn. And then I actually had one in Colorado earlier this year. I mean, I absolutely smoked one. I stood up on it, started hitting the jog, bat flip. You know, like I don't do any fancy bat flip, but, like, you know, it's what I do. and i mean i was like guy was like a foot from the wall that's crazy so it does happen every now it does happen it does but you know for the most part i i know and the ones that probably that i think i have they're more likely than not gonna go out yeah right like i'm not the guy who's gonna sit there and be like oh is that you know yeah right go out right like no i'm busting it but But most of the times I really get it.

1:50:00I'm like, oh, that's good.

1:50:01Big Cat:It's a no-doubter. Yeah, I mean, in addition to all the postseason stats that Big Cap brought up, also the postseason All-Star Game stats. I don't think those will ever be touched. When they put in the rules for the swing-off, where you're like, well, that's just the Kyle Schwarber show. Yeah, they made it for you. That was the first guy ever not to get a hit in the game. And then all of a sudden you get a trophy at the end. You know, this happened. the go three for three and uh and bp yeah like it was awesome like it was a cool thing like i it was interesting because so i i'm going back so the first all-star game i was hurt i made that was in colorado then i played i was in la one and they ask you like the manager will come up be like hey you know if we talk the game's tied we're gonna do a swing off you will you do it you're like, yeah, no problem.

1:50:53And you never really think it's going to happen, right? It doesn't happen in that one. And then same thing, go to Atlanta last year. And they ask you again, hey, swing off. You're like, yeah, I'll do it. And you're sitting there watching it. And, I mean, ninth inning or eighth inning, bottom eight, like we got a pretty good lead. I'm on deck. three outs so go in just go down to the cage might have had a had a water or two and you know thinking like oh it's over with and then you come back out you're like bang tie tie ball game you're getting a bat off world of Chapman then you're like oh all right strap it up here and uh we don't score and then it's the the swing off time and you're like you're interested to see how everyone's gonna you know do with it like is you know the the guy is gonna be into it and you know from the get-go right like all both both sides came out of the dugout and both sides were into it the fans were into it you're like okay right like guys are gonna guys are gonna take this really well and just have to go three for three and uh got everyone pumped up and yeah p waiting in the wings who had a pretty good game already.

1:52:17And, you know, don't have to get to the last hitter. We went right there. And it was a pretty cool thing. It really was. It was, right? Like you got Derek Jeter giving you a trophy there at the end, right? Pretty cool moment. Never really met Jeter until then. And, you know, it's something that you're going to be able to tell your kids one day that, hey, you know, I got to do that. First one to do it. It was pretty cool.

1:52:45Big Cat:Yeah. It did feel like an event that was built designed specifically for you. Like when it was like, oh, Kyle Schwarber is going to be representing his team in the swing office. It's like, well, they're going to win. It's that easy. That's what he does.

1:52:57PFT Commenter:Yeah. That's facts. So the last time we had you on obviously was after the World Series. And a lot has transpired since then. I do have a question about the ending with the Cubs and going to the Nats, the Red Sox, and the Phillies. was there a moment where you not a crisis of confidence but you're like am i is this going to actually work out like is this because you know in your career you started as a catcher don't don't play catcher play outfield dh all this stuff and then you had the covet year was weird wasn't your best year was there a moment you're like fuck is this is this kind of it for me oh yeah yeah i mean you can even go back to like 2017 where so 16 we won the world series um you know didn't really didn't play right just got to play in the world series pretty much had two games and you're on top of the world and then you you come back for that next year and you know you're you're mind sticking like okay right like i you know i still got this right like just played in the world series we won it and didn't have many at bats i you know you're confident and the next thing you know you find yourself batting like once once i think it was about like 170 at the point and i got sent down to triple a uh the year after one of the world series and i was like man like you know what's you know there's a lot spinning through your head right and you're like what's going on am i good enough am i this am i that and it's just like you know my this is the way my brain works so it's like well you know i gotta get the work here gotta figure it out and spent like 12 days in AAA.

1:54:46And I mean spent a lot of hours just early on the field just trying to figure it out. And I know it's a short span, but from winning the World Series to them being in AAA, hitting 170, and then you're trying to figure it out. And then luckily me and Andy Haynes were down AAA. He was a hitting coach in Chicago for a while, but he was the hitting coordinator um and you know john mailey henske you know they came up with a really good plan worked it you know just kept working working working got back and then yeah you go to 2020 and it's just kind of always been like the it was you know kind of ebbs and flows in my career in chicago where right um wasn't always consistent uh wasn't you know playing great and then you get the 60 games i didn't play good for 60 games at all by any means and you get let go and your mind starts kind of spinning like man like where's this going to take me now where what am i going to do and um you know just a lot of different things think because you know you you're you you're in chicago you know you came up with a lot of great people and now all of a sudden that's going to be taken away yeah and you don't know it's kind of like the great unknown out there and uh it just so happened to be like the best thing ever for me where it's like you get that time to kind of it's a fresh start right right it's a one-year deal but it's a fresh start and i ended up and arguably probably the best place for me which was washington at the time where it was actually still a really good team and i got that opportunity just to go out there and play and i got the the work with kevin long uh pat rossler uh david martinez was the manager who was my bench coach in chicago um playing with trey turner juan soto scherzer strasburg ryan zimmerman uh jordy mercer josh harrison alex like i can just name all these guys john lester right back in uh washington that year um just like a unbelievable group josh bell I can just keep naming dudes left and right.

1:57:04And that whole atmosphere, that whole scenario where I got in with a really good hitting coach, really good hitting coaches, really good staff, really good players. It does kind of put me in that mindset to where, all right, yes, I'm getting back to work. And it kind of took it away from yourself. Right. Right. The more that you think about it yourself a little bit is when things can really go downhill. Besides when you're really just focusing and buying into everything that goes into your team, that that's when I feel like you're going to get the best out of yourself because it doesn't really matter at the end of the day what I'm doing.

1:57:44I just want to win baseball games because I know if we win baseball games, that puts us where we want to be at the end. Right. and I got that and you know it was awesome we had a good team and then all of a sudden everyone gets hurt I I blew a hammy I think Trey Trey might got hurt you know we we were banged up that year and then all of a sudden we we were literally like four games out of it and we had this big road trip right before the trade deadline and we're going to play Baltimore before Baltimore was uh you know really good and we get swept there we're like ah this is probably it it's probably it and we go to philly like maybe if we sneak out like three of these games in philly and you know i got to go back to washington for mri on my hamstring like yeah it's about the trade deadline yeah all right and you know sure enough max and trade get traded first the la and then i I got a call that night at like 11 o 'clock.

1:58:43It's funny, the Cubs were actually coming in town in Washington. And I was going to go see a couple people, I think a couple coaches. And I got the call like 11 o 'clock at night, hey, we're trading you to Boston. And like just another great thing that happened to me. We were just getting traded to a contender team that was in first place at the time. And, you know, a lot of different circumstances, never played first base before. We're going to go over there, stand at first base. But just awesome time there. We went on a deep playoff run. It didn't work out, but then, yeah, ended up finding a forever home there in Philly.

1:59:21Big Cat:Yeah. How did you decide on Philly when it came time to it? Yeah. I mean, it's like it was kind of easy for me because it's like. And free agencies, it's interesting. And this free agency was obviously different than the one previous where you just got non-tendered and you're looking for a one-year deal. Like this, you're going to go look for multi-year deals and everything like that. So your agency and yourself, your family, they come up with this list and you're looking at teams that you might fit on, right? And you have this big dream that you're like, oh, it's going to work out just like this.

2:00:01And it never happens that way. But the one team that always was on that page and that stuck out was Philadelphia. And I was like, you look at the roster on paper, you're like, man, this is a really good team. It really is. And that year in 21, they had Bryce win MVP, and they had Wheeler, who arguably could have won the Cy Young that year, where he finished second. And it was like, man, this is a very interesting team. And have conversations, figure it out, and then it's just like, yeah, this is going to fit, this is going to work. And then, you know, obviously there's a lot of different things that have to line up and you're questioning if it is going to line up and then it's like it's this wildest story so i got a phone call with oh hello yeah we're trying to remodel soon max won't let us

2:00:57PFT Commenter:yeah but uh and hank they're pieces of shit we literally told them i'm not joking we told them like these shelves are a problem everything keeps falling and then we have you guys happy shorber almost got concussed max it's it's it's a big hard head i apologize okay thank you i'll wear it why why have you never apologized he was about to tell a great story and then he got concussed but that's hands up so my wife were so it's the lockout year and this is like lockout gets lifted and we're in march and my wife's pregnant with our first kid. And so I get on this call with Dombrowski and kind of just lay it out there.

2:01:45And it's like 10, 15 at night. And go for like 20 minutes, whatever it is. Get off the phone. You know, agency's kind of going back and forth. And all of a sudden they call, they go, hey we got you know this is the deal and i'm like yeah we're doing it four for 79 and you know bang about to celebrate a little bit yeah life-changing money celebrate yeah right and then not even 30 minutes later my wife's water breaks oh no way yeah thank goodness i only didn't have it i didn't have too many yeah you know through through the bag together real quick she's screaming at me why didn't you have your bag ready i've been telling you to have your bag ready and i you know forgot and just thinking about baseball stuff for some reason and throw it back together we get to the hospital call the philly it's like hey uh the the uh physical is gonna have to wait a little bit and uh so we go have our first kid everything uh went great get the philly the next you know we we get home i think we're at the hospital for two days get home next day i fly at philly physical get passed back down spend the day with them and then i'm in clear water the day after that's we have a kid without uh without them so it was just a it was a wild turn of events there but uh ended up definitely finding the right spot shout out your first

2:03:12PFT Commenter:born for being like i'm not coming in this world unless i'm super rich exactly he's never yeah he's never known it all of our kids have no clue yeah because i mean obviously you made money to start of your career but it's different this is like real money yeah life-changing stuff right yeah

2:03:27Big Cat:you doubled your career earnings i think with that first year yeah really yeah yeah yes that's

2:03:33PFT Commenter:and your kid was like fuck that i'm not gonna yeah i'm not gonna be broke yeah you can definitely

2:03:37Big Cat:point to that day and be like that that is probably the best day of my life exactly that's pretty

2:03:42PFT Commenter:cool exactly that's awesome the uh do you do you look back at the i mean i i unfortunately hold a lot of like anger that the cubs didn't keep you it sounds like it's actually was like a situation that was better for you long term that you would have maybe not had the same success if you stayed in chicago was it still shocking though and i do blame theo the video i i don't know if i ever told the story so we have a very good mutual friend and you you reached what was your what was the 10 year service time yeah so they did a video of a bunch of people uh being like kyle you know congratulations like on 10 years service time so i was on it and at the end of my little part of the video i'm like fuck theo for not keeping you and literally the next video was just hey it's theo epstein it was perfect it was so perfect oh man it's it was that was definitely funny definitely you had a big laugh yeah you got a big laugh out of the room But no, I don't blame him.

2:04:47I don't blame anyone. I mean, at the end of the day, and I always tell people this, the shocking part of it all is I was just going to be going somewhere new. It's like you win the World Series. You have a great group. We always – it felt like family. And now it's just gone. Right. Right. You're like, okay, that was the shocking part. But at the end of the day, it was my fault. I had 60 games and I didn't produce in 60 games. And even before that stuff, it wasn't like I was the most consistent player ever. And there was a lot of good memories, right? And for me, it's like Chicago is a big foundation of what I am now.

2:05:35And there was a lot of lessons learned in my time here. and being able to move forward and do all this cool things that I've been able to do in my career. It's been awesome. But, no, there's no grudges hold. All right, I'll hold it. I'll just hold it against you. I always say I think the more shocking thing was just all the other guys were gone.

2:05:59PFT Commenter:It's crazy how quickly it all kind of – and it also is crazy looking back and being like, you're the guy left standing in a weird way. Like your, you know, your career and what you've done since then has been insane. Yeah. I mean, it's, you know, for, for me personally, it's like, you know, I just found the, found the stride and just been able to keep going with it. And, you know, I know there's, you know, looking at a lot of other guys who have left and you look at Javi, Javi's, you know, getting the stride over there in Detroit, which is awesome. That is awesome. Yeah. Like, that guy's one of the most electric players in the game when he's going.

2:06:40You know, Chris is obviously dealing with a lot of different injuries, and it's just – It sucks. You want him – you know, you just want the best for that guy, right? Yeah. You don't want anyone being hurt. Like, I hate the hurt factor.

2:06:52PFT Commenter:It's terrible. It sucks what's happened to his career. I had a question about Javi. I have a theory that, like, in every team sport, and baseball's, you know, one of them where you need at least one guy like Javi who's, like, Maybe going to do something that's not the most fundamentally sound baseball move, but it also is like you need someone who's kind of got that energy that will charge the team every now and then. You can't have too many of them, but that role is a specific role that Javi played so well. I mean, Javi is like, I mean, those years that we got to watch him where it was like MVP caliber player was outrageous.

2:07:28It was awesome. is like the he's like the best instinctual player on the field i've ever seen you know not even just like when it comes to hitting and fielding like the base running it's crazy right his base running is outrageous you and everyone wants to talk about like fundamentally sound like watch this dude run the bases watch his turns watch how he goes first to third like that's fundamentally sound like this dude like i remember watching him we were doing a base running drill and he's talking about like hey like yeah we always hit the inside part of the bag but like when i hit the inside part of the bag i'm trying to go like direct line step the second base like take away that big you know you loop that big loop from running i'm like man like and it doesn't make so much sense like the tags right like it's the best tags in the game yeah yeah right like slides the slides amazing you know obviously makes sick plays you know hits pretty cool ass homers right like you see him hit 100 at his head you're like whoa yeah the fundamentally sound was probably more the

2:08:45PFT Commenter:the at the plate when it's like yeah i mean whatever right yeah like that's baseball man Like that's the best thing about baseball is that there's, you're not going to have a lineup of the same people. Right. Right. Like there's going to be, you need that diversity in your lineup. And that's, you know, that, you know, Javi, sure. Like he might swing at a breaking ball that was off the plate and whatever, but also too, he might just touch the breaking ball that under the zone by a good amount and poke it out the center field. Yeah. Right. Or he hits, like I said, the 100 ball above the zone by this much, and it's gone.

2:09:27And it was just so much fun to watch that dude play baseball, and I'm excited to see him find his stride again. He was back in the All-Star game last year, and they're finding their way in the postseason. And I know when he's in that environment, and he's in those postseasons, he's thriving.

2:09:48PFT Commenter:Yeah, that was the nicest way to say I'm a fucking idiot. I appreciate that so much. I think he was doing the... That was such a nice answer.

2:09:56Big Cat:If you know enough about the game of baseball, he actually is fundamentally sound.

2:10:00PFT Commenter:You just dunked on me with a nice smile and then picked me up off the floor, and you're like, here, it's okay.

2:10:06Big Cat:Who would you say? Because I think you probably played with the two best sliders in modern baseball, Trey Turner, I would say, and Javi. So which one of those two is a better slider? I don't know. That's a great question. Great question. It's probably like that could be like a really good poll debate. Like Trey looks like Legolas, you know, like Lord of the Rings, like when the dude's just walking on top of the snow and everyone else is like knee deep. That's what he looks like when he runs. And when he slides, it looks like he's like hovering above the dirt. And then there's that cool slide where he hits like it was against the Phillies.

2:10:47I think it was in like 21. he slides in the home plate hits like a stand up back turn it looked like he was doing a little moonwalk like yeah michael jackson moonwalk and i was like what's that like yeah yeah how can you what i'm used to fucking sliding it hurts yeah right like this dude doesn't feel anything yeah they're going oh replace your divot please yeah right like oh but like when he does it it doesn't even look like it hurts yeah but like and i mean javi too man like like just like the insane swim

2:11:18PFT Commenter:moves yeah when you do the fake out when you pull his arm back yeah i tried that once and almost blew out my left shoulder i'm never doing that again never i'm going feet first in that bag and

2:11:30Big Cat:if i'm safe i'm safe if i'm out i'm out that's perfect uh is it okay if we talk about maybe a not so great memory for you which one so um in the world series against the astros we're gonna go yeah let's do it i have an important question for you yeah this is an important question did you guys did you guys get no hit against the astros oh i thought we were gonna go somewhere but yes we did get no hit so the astros threw a no hitter yeah so it was combined no hitter yeah so i need to put the headphones on yeah you're gonna have to put the headphones on we've had a lot of fights about this this is a ongoing debate we think that you guys got no hit since you guys didn't get any hits that day max thinks that's not a no hitter

2:12:09PFT Commenter:Combined no hitter is not a no hitter. But you guys didn't get a hit, right? No, we didn't get a hit. Right. So that would be another way to say it would be no hitter. Yeah. It was a no hitter. But combines don't count. Max tries to call it.

2:12:27Big Cat:He says it's a zero hitter. Yeah, because it's not a real no hitter. Yeah, I mean.

2:12:33PFT Commenter:This is when we have our guest on and we just do an argument we've been having for five years in front of you. You know, it's not the traditional, you know, when people think of no hitter, you know, people think of the starting pitcher going out there and going all nine without giving a hit. Right. Giving up a hit. But also, too, it's like, you know, you ever played the game like Immaculate Grid? Yeah. Right? Like when it says like no hitter. Yeah. You can put in like a reliever. Yeah. That was a part of a combined no hitter. Yeah. That's what we go off of. And so like, yeah, I mean, it was a no hitter.

2:13:08Yeah, you got no hits. It was. We got no hits after we just went out there.

2:13:12PFT Commenter:If you had gotten one hit, it wouldn't have been a no hitter. I'm sorry. Max, if you realize that, if they got one hit. Why are you saying it to me? Because you're the one that's denying it.

2:13:21Big Cat:Everybody else is like, yeah, it's no hitter, dude.

2:13:23PFT Commenter:Yeah. Even the guy who was playing in the game says it was a no hitter. Yeah. Yeah. This is tough. This is tough for my argument right now. It was. Yeah. That was unfortunate. Where I actually thought you were going to go with that question was me trying to bunt with two strikes. Oh, yeah. World Series. Yeah. I don't even know if you... That's a good question. If you would like to ask that question to yourself, I would hate to get the answer. What were you thinking when you already hit a home run in the game?

2:13:53Big Cat:Yeah. Great question. And it's in the, what, eighth inning with two strikes against Brian Abreu. Why'd you bunt and fouled off straight back and walked back to the idiot like a dugout? Or walked back to the dugout like an idiot? well good question um you know in the moment uh if you go to the high home feed you know we could pull it up it'd be great you know the going up it's pretty nasty guy didn't see it great and i'm like man you know what like all i gotta do is just touch this ball i just gotta touch it put it in fair fair territory get the first base because they got the shift on right yeah we're yeah the shift was still a thing we i think we were down three yeah and uh with two outs and i'm like reese is swinging it uh in all reality terrible idea the worst idea i've ever had i think uh there's been a i mean like this is the best part like i i love like watching all the things i screw up on like i love laughing at it because i'm just like what am i doing yeah like what what was i thinking why did i think that was a great idea right now to do that and it was a terrible idea like astros fans still like wear me out about it yeah like going like you threw in the towel like no i wasn't throwing in the fucking towel i was trying to find a way on base let's try to get on base for this two-run homer but like it just didn't work out and it was a bad idea at the time or in all reality bad idea but it was a great idea in my head in in that moment until it didn't work

2:15:27PFT Commenter:out yeah if we're doing bad ideas right now do you want to do the same um you want to do the same question to yourself why you dove for the ball will wilmer flores hit in the 2015 nlcs there's a lot of those that was a bad there's a lot of them man i was the pleasures for that game and i think it was i think it was game four talk about a talk about a fun place to learn how to play the outfield that ball just kept on going forever and i was with dave and kfc kfc's a die hard Mets fan and they just both looked at me because it was game four is like what was that I was like listen yeah I still love the guy there's a lot of that yeah I mean hell I had a double error that had to be the worst feeling though to have the ball just keep going yeah I think you got a fake an injury next time like I know you don't play the field but like that's that's a total fake an injury because then people can't be mad at you like if I were in your shoes in that spot i'd get carted off i would i would just be like i'm so injured oh man so like dude there's so many different places great so uh a lot of people don't know this so lester's last start in chicago in 2020 so rizzo's like dude we gotta we gotta do a video for this guy and we talked about it uh on you know they got they got their uh their podcast going out with 10 years but and so Rizzo's like man we got we got to do this uh this video for him and he goes and he goes and he does like the light bulb clicks off in his head he's like oh I got it I'm like what is it tell me something good he goes we're gonna make a video of you making airs diving around everywhere not catching balls and we're just gonna have them cut to John and he's gonna have the ass you know just yelling yelling everything on the mound looking at you like what are you doing like uh so we ended up getting this video all cut up you know like and don't get me wrong i made plenty of videos for john out there and uh you know it's great like there's a ball like curtis grandson there was a ball like it was an april christian yellow smokes one that i'm like man and this ball is going to be close to the wall.

2:17:43And all reality, and the wind's just howling in. All I had to do was to stand where I was at, and I would have caught the ball. I'm running back. I go, oh, no. Slam the brakes on, come back in, clank. Face hits the ground. What am I doing? Then truly the best error I think I've ever had was, I think it was Pierce Johnson's debut, and it was against Milwaukee in 2017. It was a great time to punch right in the dick. You stink. I'm stinking personally. And you're going out. It's pouring on us. And the wind's howling. It's like gusts everything. It's pouring on us. So ball gets hit up in the air. I just come running in.

2:18:33And Javi's playing short. and Javi's like 10 feet, 15 feet over here, and the ball's going to be like over here. And I'm like, well, it looks like I got to call it. I go, I got it, I got it. Put the glove out. Seeing like three balls, I'm like, please choose the right one. Bang, clank. Nope, didn't choose the right one. Ball rolls on the dirt, on the infield dirt, and it's first and second. or maybe yeah i think it's first second or got him first and like i said it's pouring so it's like a it's like a mud bath out there and i pick it up bare hand i hit like the superman like flip play gonna be a nasty play if i would have hit him in the chest i threw it in the right field just panamodium snowball fight people running all over all around the place i get up i mean i am drenched in mud like just like ultimate defeat and the best part about the whole thing is like right after that play umpires go put the tarp on put the tarp on i'm like i'm fuming i'm fuming i'm like you fucking kidding i just did all this i just did all this for you to pull the fucking tarp now oh i'm watching oh dude i'm going back it i go back

2:20:03PFT Commenter:it's the best thing ever the flip was gonna be nasty oh and you're so muddy you're so it's it's like i'm like i'd be i'm like i'm gonna have to get into uni or like go back out for the resumption of this and i mean i'm sitting i go i'm yard sale and throwing my glove whatever i get in sit in my locker i'm like man i feel like i got like 40 eyes just looking at me right now there's not even 40 dudes in this room and i just happened to like i'm like all right enough and i just look over and rozzo's just side eyeing me and he just breaks out in laughter i'm like oh thank god oh yeah thank goodness someone laughed oh having to go in the dugout after on a rain delay after that error that's brutal yeah yeah that was that was a low point yeah it was a low point but you know it's like in all reality right like i that's why i think it's great like i can i love looking back and i love laughing about it right it's like you know it's baseball it's baseball dude like you know i i mean i messed up yeah and it's funny yeah it's funny yeah it's funny i messed up it's not funny in the moment but like the more that you you learn you learn in your head to like not beat yourself up and to keep like just replaying it replaying it replaying it right like the now to like just now where i'm at it's like i've learned just to be very objective in like how i think right it's like how okay why did i mess that up right and then okay how am i gonna be better off for it it's just like being at the plate all right like you know there was a span last year where i was literally i think i was over 20 last year over 21 and i don't even think i could be i could be mad like i was swinging the pitch i think i should swing at taking pitches i think i should take hitting the ball pretty hard there's a couple of bats in there sure whatever but i'm like man i don't think i can be mad myself and then next game go out there and hit four homers yeah right like you know it's it's just like the the nature of the beast and the more that you can kind of like stay objectively objectively in that mindset besides just really you know beating yourself up from the inside that the game you know one it becomes easier to play right because there's plenty of times from the inside i was just beating myself up from the inside where i'm just like man you know i stink whatever it is and uh you know the doubts start creeping in versus you know now it's just like okay like you got to learn you got to learn from your good days got to learn from your bad days especially your bad days and uh how you're going to be better off for that moving forward yeah do you think you're a good perspective you think

2:22:57Big Cat:you're ever going to get a chance to avenge your at bat against kyle williams though the position player on the braves struck you out oh luke williams yeah luke williams yeah he uh former philly too i had spring training with that guy he gassed you oh dude he gassed that thing i mean it was like probably 67 72 maybe yeah it looked like 105 it looked like 105 dude i'm telling you and he paints it and i'm like i'm like thinking i'm gonna be swinging a pitch like this far off the plate away because like there's no way he's gonna throw inside right here right he's just gonna you know and i'm like i just gotta protect from the umpire trying to you know punch me out first off i shouldn't be in two straight count against a position player what am i doing right Well, the cut that you took on when it was 0-1, I remember the second pitch, you tried to hit that ball 600 feet.

2:23:49Big Cat:I've never seen you swing harder. And he got you with an Ephus on that one. It was like 55. And then it comes back, gas inside. Yeah, I got a really weird thing against position players. It's so interesting. Yeah. I stink.

2:24:03PFT Commenter:The pressure's got to be. I stink. It's not even me thinking about, like, I better not strike out here. it's just like dude i've tried everything i mean everything i'm like i'm gonna you know be flat i'm gonna catch out front i'm gonna let it travel i'm gonna swing up i'm gonna swing down this never works it always is the same thing of sky high pop up yeah right to the left fielder yeah always a sky high pop up or a sky high pop up in the infield and i mean even like go back to that four homer game, I had a chance for a fifth off position player. Yeah. And whole stadium's up there cheering. And I'm like, all right, this is the time to do it.

2:24:43This is the time you're going to break that. You're going to break this little run you got of not hitting a homer or even really having a hit off position player. Nope. Sky high five all the left field again.

2:24:56PFT Commenter:All right, so we did some bad memories. What are your top three postseason home runs? Oh, man. Because that, I mean, you've had so many. Yeah. And so many awesome ones. Yeah.

2:25:09Man. I would say number one, probably my first one in the wild card game.

2:25:19PFT Commenter:In Pittsburgh. Mm-hmm. Suck my dick, Pittsburgh, when you yelled that in the tunnel. I don't know if that's true, but I've heard that. No, I don't think I did that one. I don't think I did that one. You said you were so jacked up that you went in the tunnel and just started screaming to yourself. Maybe. I don't know. You hit that ball a mile. That was a fucking tank. Yeah, I mean, it was like, it was just like, so like backstory preface, it was like Lariano. It was Lariano and Cole that year were like the one-two. And Cole's obviously the one. He's, you know, first-round pick. You know, Pittsburgh guy who got drafted by the system.

2:25:57them and lariano is free agent whatever and he's just having a good year and i think he pitched unbelievable against us that year and they had like two lineups uh for us because they didn't announce who was starting you know i'm playing against cole i'm not playing against lariano so you're kind of just sitting there staring at your phone waiting for them to the send out the who's starting and you get the text and it's cole and then it's like no sleep i'm like i'm just sitting there in this in the fairmont like oh like what's about to happen you know what's this game gonna be like i you know first play whatever and then you know get a base hit first to bat and it's like i just like replaying the bat i just remember so dexter steals second base on the first pitch i'm like and on my mind i'm like i'm just gonna get him over a third base and i swing over a couple sliders and then all of a sudden he threw me a heater away and i poked it down the left field line so i'm going to my second about i'm like dude i'm i got it like i'm sitting on a slider right here i'm just going to sit on a slider this whole bat and i get like heater ball change up ball heater right down the middle to a strike i'm like oh man like i took a heater right down the middle i hope he doesn't think i'm sitting on a slider right here but i'm like i'm staying with it then bang slider homer hit it crushed it right that crushed it i think 450 feet yeah in the water yeah yeah um so that was cool one i think you can't not say the the budweiser the

2:27:31PFT Commenter:moon ball i was at that game that's a cool one yeah um against the cardinals yeah my i mean a couple in philly where you know like the the world series i like i would say just fairly after no hitter right like um you know there's it's a little room you know little tense whatever it is right we just went from uh homer fest and game uh what was that game three i think you know we were hitting the colors and then we go game four no hitter then game five you know you lead off the game with a homer like that was pretty cool yeah like that that was pretty cool but uh and then like i grand slam in boston 3-0 uh you know felt like that place was gonna fall down that was pretty cool and i obviously that another one too like the one in san diego where when we were at the phillies hit it all the way in that upper deck up there yeah that was

2:28:35Big Cat:pretty pretty awesome how big pretty cool how big did the ball look during the four homer game it looked good it looked good yeah it wasn't speeding up you know uh yeah it was weird because it's like you know like i said going back 0 for 20 it was funny bryce we're down in the cages and you know bryce yeah we always you know we're always talking crap in our in our log room and he goes man i didn't realize you're 0 for 20

2:29:09right before the game i'm like yep oh for 20 he's like man i didn't realize he's like i didn't realize you were going that bad i was like yep and you know sure enough homer versus patty goes see yeah you know this mess around with each other then next one uh guy hangs a curveball hit it down and then third one uh poke it out the left and then uh the fourth one was a former teammate wander swear i played with him in washington and uh i remember i'm like man i'm just gonna take one i haven't seen him in a while he throws me a pitch i should have hammered and i was like man that was the one and it's like the you know get the two strikes and the way the mind works right it's like i'm you know you're not even thinking about a home run right you're just thinking about like staying staying through middle field whatever it is and you get a change up and you stay through it and it goes you know besides like if i'm up there and then you go to that fifth at bat or the sixth at bat technically off the position player you're like in your head you're like man i gotta hit a homer pop up left yeah like you gotta have just a regular joe like an average dude that throws you batting practice occasionally get max to do it he'll do it oh i was trying it all down there i was like hey guys throw me a lot of balls yeah in the cages i'm throwing me some lot balls i'm gonna get ready for this yeah i'm doing it i'm doing it because my dumb self asked how many people have hit five in a game before yeah and then it was just like complete silence i was like ah okay yeah you're

2:30:40PFT Commenter:on the precipice of history yeah it's just a question yeah i mean i'm sure that that that history if that did happen that would have been there could have been an asterisk by it just because it was off no way absolutely no way listen if there's no asterisks next to a no

2:30:53Big Cat:hitter that was thrown by you know combined uh pitchers then no five home runs off a position player that counts i'm sure max has like a million questions they're probably you ever watch the uh chris farley show on snl where it's just like hey you remember that time that you hit that home run that was awesome as a question that's probably what these are going to be like i mean that's been the whole interview because we love you so much so fair point max i'm sure you had a million questions uh i got a couple not not not too many i don't want to take up too much of your time um So you've had a couple runs here in Philly, a couple playoff runs, and there's been different expectations going into each year, different vibes going into each year.

2:31:31It does seem like the best run that we've gone on was 2022 when we didn't have the highest expectations compared to some of the other years. How does that affect the locker room going in? Because there was something about that 22 team that felt different. yeah i mean that's a it's a great question great question um going back to 22 you know i don't i think that the the expectation wasn't there from a fan base just because the year previous it was you know what i think it was what 81 and 81 yeah not great and coming into that spring training you looked around you're like man we got a good team and no one no one knows it so like the they expect the expectations already there in the in the locker room and there was a lot of different things that we had to fight through that year too where um you know scura breaks his breaks thumb harp uh you know he tours tours tommy john and then he also came back and he got hit broke his uh broke his thumb that year too and missed some time and a lot of different things that we had to fight through but then like we knew like in the back of our heads were like man like once we get the full strength because i even think wheeler started late too that year and maybe ranger got hurt we were just in the back of our heads going man like once we get the full strength like watch out like watch out and we get the full strength and it was a funny philly story he's awesome um so that year i think we i forget where we were um it was near the end of the year and we come we're coming off a road trip for our last home stand before we go hit 10 games and i don't think we've finished i think we might have got swept on the road and you know we're all pissed off whatever it is and we land in philly or get on the buses and it's like three in the morning and we see like so we pull out this gate and we see someone standing right there and like man what is this and then all of a sudden this dude just whips out a sign holds it up says like same shit every year we deserve better this guy waited till 3 a.m for us to get back just for that like it was so really like we all we were all laughing like it was it was all like it was funny yeah yeah but like it was funny you know and then we we play the homestand whatever and uh we go on the road again it's 10 game road trip go to washington i think we lose like lose the first one i think we ended up winning two out of three uh go to chicago we didn't play good in chicago but like there was a race between like the uh i think it was the brewers and us and miami is out of nowhere this gets hotter than a piston and uh they start beating the brewers and we're like man we got a chance and then we get to houston you know shocking we play houston last series of the year and we ended up playing them in the world series and all we had to do was go win one game win that game uh and you know we were like all right here we go you know on the on thest louis you know go win the first two there uh then we're in the atlanta you know atlanta i think just won the division uh you know we you know it feels like we always played them tough you know it's always close games then we go in there we win the first one then we come back home and like funny like cool cool moment right like so we went to the eagles home opener that year and we're like man this place is a mad box it's crazy it's unbelievable like the electric atmosphere and we come back off the road and it was almost a month that we were on the road and then it's like we step out you know obviously we're all excited we got the postseason stuff going flying around we're taking bp everything and then it's time for the intros and we go out there and we're like whoa it's like an eagles game in here this is awesome right like this is this is amazing you got the whole stadium that's killing dudes killing dudes from atlanta you know like ozuno steps at the play you got the whole stadium going up there saying what they're saying And, like, it was like, whoa, this is awesome.

2:36:27And, you know, we were playing great baseball. We won that series, you know, San Diego, go out there, you know, split. And then we're like, we're just not, you know, we're telling ourselves, we're like, we're just not going back to San Diego. You know, like, we're not going back to San Diego. And, you know, we didn't. Bryce hits that homer. Like, wow, what a moment. Like, that's like probably one of my favorite moments of just sitting there and just watching baseball where it seems like cinematic kind of, right? Where, you know, we're all on the top rail, right? And it just feels like something's going to happen.

2:37:08You know he's not going to get out, but you don't know it's going to be that. And the ball leaves and then it's like drizzling on us. Like it's so fucked up that game where like it felt like it started raining on us, but it only rained on us when we were pitching like sirs out there getting soaked. Like, you know, he he's got no grip on the ball. He's throwing things all over the place. Can't find a grip. Then I was the stop raining when they're pitching. We're like, what's going on here? But, you know, then it starts drizzling again when we're going and we get this rally going and harp this, you know, it's this ball cinematic feel.

2:37:47and you're like whoa and the whole stadium's just erupted it read on the seismic like earthquake yeah right um really cool moment but like the answer to the question the expectation's always there for us like we know the group that we have and we know what we're capable of doing and you know sure like you know the start this year off right it hasn't been the greatest start by any means um but also too it's like there's the you have to keep a perspective in your head of okay like just because we haven't started off great doesn't mean that we don't have a good team right doesn't mean that we own a great team right like we're you know rocky roads whatever it is you just got to keep your head down keep fighting taking things on the chin and there's going to be a light somewhere down at the end of the tunnel you just got to find your way there you know you got to keep going you got to keep playing it doesn't mean that we quit we're never quitting where it's not like the the sense of urgency that's always there it doesn't matter i said it doesn't matter if you're on a 20 game win streak or if on a 20 game losing streak there's always a sense of urgency because there's a game to be played tomorrow right right like and it's you Our sport's so unique where we play so many of them, and we play them on pretty much a daily basis.

2:39:15And the roller coaster effect that we say, don't ride that roller coaster because that roller coaster could be dangerous, man, for a player. It's just like if you're going good, don't get too high because next thing you know, be over 20. or you're for 20 don't get too low this quote, the best quote Reese Hoskins, just make it to the box there's always a chance there's always a chance if you make it to the box so don't get too high don't get too low, keep going keep your heads down, take it on the chin but just know that the work that we keep putting in on a daily basis is going to translate and the next thing you know don't let the fills get hot there you go Max Don't let the Phillies get hot.

2:40:03I love that. So we feel we're going to bounce back this year? Yes. All right. Yeah. Phillies fans would have. Season's not over yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's early. It's early.

2:40:13Big Cat:Just get to the box, Max. Do you have another question? Yeah, I'll do one more. Last year, historic year. Should have won MVP. Should have won MVP. Would have been fantastic for everyone. Maybe because I bet on 90-1. Yep, we all did. There became a point last year, like you were playing so well, and the home run number started to really get up there. So then it started to become, oh, this is a historic year, a historic year where it was like, is he going to get to 50? Oh, he got to 50. He still has got this many games left. And then it's like, oh, is he going to catch Howard? Is he going to get to 60?

2:40:50How difficult is it to not think about that when you're getting to the ballpark every day being like, I'm in the middle of something special right now. like i have to not think about things that are like out of your control yeah it's it's another great question right like everything's like all learning experience right like never hit 50 before right like it's just like the first time i ever drove in 100 rbis right like first time i ever i was staring at 99 on that board and you know it and then for some reason there's there's like some, there wants to be some mental block. Like, why? Like, what is this?

2:41:34Right? Like, I've taken how many at-bats in my life? Like, just take your bat. But for some reason, just wants to stare you in the face. And, you know, you just got to overcome it somehow. So, like, I mean, it was funny. Like, the first time I ever drove in 100, Rojas on first, he's still second. They throw it in the center, he gets third base. And I got a guy on third base less than two outs. They bring in the infield. I'm like man all I gotta do right now I'm sitting there talking to myself like oh I gotta do this this this this that and I'm like you know sitting there whatever this not in the moment this post but you know I end up capping a ball like squibbed it right over the third baseman's head like if he was just playing normal it would have been a nice like soft chest high throw right to him and just because they were in it goes over his head it landed in the canfield and uh you get 100 it's like whoo you know the weight falls off and uh you know it's it's funny how the the mind works you know you're just sitting there and you're looking back you go man why was i thinking like that right right like why am i trying to tell myself to do this this is that right like no like i i've done this plenty of times i've driven in dudes plenty of times just do what you always do you know and then going back to the last year right when you know it's a it's a it's a story there's there's plenty of times so like i hit 50 i mean i was sitting on 49 for a little bit and uh i was like man like and then you hit 50 like feels like a weight gone off your shoulders and you're like man like why was i thinking like this yeah and then it's like okay we get to the end of the year and didn't think it was going to be possible but then all of a sudden you have the four homer game and then you pop two more against miami a year at 56 and uh like man got three more games left might have a chance here you know it crept in my mind i'll you know for i'll be the first one to tell you definitely crept in the mind and it's like looking back at that those three games and i i love watching those bats i'm like man those were awful bats i'm like all because something was in your head that probably shouldn't have been in there yeah besides just going in there and just really focusing on whatever you need to do stick your bats man yeah and uh you know it's like i said everything's a learning experience yeah and uh it's like man like i i look back at something i was like man like i've never really played the game because we already clinched we were everything i think we already had the it was like we had the two seed um i was like man like i didn't enjoy playing those last three games like that like i me personally i didn't like it just felt weird to me because i never really thought about something like that i'm like man like i i was like this make made a promise yourself like i'm just never gonna think like think about any of that stuff right like i just need to go out there and do what i do and worry about what you always worry about because when you do that you're obviously pretty damn good yeah that's what i always tell everyone like you know we're all here for a reason right like like you don't need to go out there and tell yourself to go do anything right like that just brings in the little devil on the shoulder right like we're all really good yeah so let's just continue to be ourselves and i guarantee more times than not it's going to work out more right like the work that they're putting in the work that they're trying to do to get better whatever it is like you know everyone has success everyone has failures but um you have to go out there and say like man like i need to go do this i need to go get this home i need to go hit a home run man i need to go get a hit no you don't because now you're just telling yourself something you've never told yourself before when you were going good right right like it's it's just funny how the mind works that's just the way i think it's like it's just always a good reminder like just be yourself always in those moments and you know all the experiences leading up to those moments are are key and they're vital because you've been in those situations before and you know how to you know know not what to do and just be yourself You're going to be good.

2:45:48PFT Commenter:All right, we've got a couple last questions. This has been so much fun. You haven't met Stephen Che, the commish. No. He's here. What's up, commish? Commish is here. He's got to turn it on. What's up, Kyle? Nice to meet you. He's also like a now diehard baseball fan. I don't know if you followed any of that. Yeah, really? He picked up baseball last year 20 games into the season. Never watched baseball, never rooted for a team. He's rooting for the Cubs with his son. he's it's very funny because like even last year i think he went to the game that uh they did like a big ceremony for rizzo and after he was like he was like dude was that rizzo guy good and i was like uh yeah so he's learning congratulations yeah thank you thank you welcome welcome to the i have some questions about the the game since i'm new to to following it but um you you're a dh now yes you used to play some catcher long you're you're sitting down you're squatting for sorry i'm getting i'm getting real too cross left and right um or hank is calling me actually that's fucked up good start good start you got this steven steven So you played some catcher.

2:47:06PFT Commenter:Yes. What is the etiquette for gas? Because you're crouching. You got your butt almost as wide as possible for half the game. But there's a guy you need in your corner directly behind you. So what happens if you have gas? Do you have to get in front of it and apologize? Or do you just kind of let it go and hope the wind takes it?

2:47:34PFT Commenter:we've got some guys in in the studio too that don't hear it he asked what what you do when you fart when you're yeah i mean like there's there's definitely like for the most part you're like if it's happening like you're trying not to like you know poop on someone right right you're not trying to you know the umpire is just like right behind you but you know there's times that this happens man i will say there's this times it just happens and you know you're you're just like cross your fingers you're like yeah it's just me yeah please don't smell but yeah i mean there's times that let it go but most of the time it's like when you're you know guy hits the ball and you're trying to back up to play the first base you just let her rip running down you know you're like good baseball question yeah great question what about umpires do umpires do they do they have gas too uh i'm sure they do i've never experienced though i mean they are human yeah but uh i've never had umpire like i've never had umpire like i haven't really smelled when i'm hitting like it's it's funny like you i never really thought about it yeah i never even thought about the like sniff yeah right yeah right what is that i thought about that but uh yeah i'm sure it's happening you know it's funny it's like there's like the viral video what is it like adam lind yeah yeah like baby powder comes out of the oh yeah i like i should ask him that question yeah he's he's our triple a hitting coach i need to ask yeah you got to like did you actually fart there like did you just have so much because don't get me wrong like when you load up on some baby powder or some gold bond whatever it is right like it's gonna sneak out of there it can fall out it's gonna sneak out yeah and uh you know i just want to know like did you did you like i want to know did you actually like let it rip i'm gonna ask him good question shay thanks yeah way to go um well this has been awesome kyle you're the best i have one last question roback question rhoback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q zips polos hoodies joggers shorts roback.com promo code take it's actually not a question it's a story i remember that i doubt you do but it was i already knew that you were the man and i already was like this guy fucking love him forever uh but it's just a funny anecdote i wonder if you remember it all we went i was lucky enough cubs con after the world series rizzo was like hey come out we'll have dinner with the whole team i was literally sitting at a table with the entire team i was sitting next to you and uh we all got we're at a steakhouse we all got our steaks and you got a salad and you were just like under your breath you're like theo's fucking making me lose weight this is bullshit and i was like i fucking love this guy this is so relatable like someone being like you gotta lose weight i don't know if you remember it but i was true yeah so true oh yeah i remember yeah yeah we're we're we're we're we're we're we're i can't remember uh it might have been chicago cut maybe maybe but yeah i just like i love this guy like yes dieting sucks yes normal people shit right there yeah right yeah but you got to do it yeah like uh especially for you know obviously us where it's like you know you gotta you gotta stay in shape guys right like yo but uh it was just funny like that whole thing where it's like dude like so i was a catcher right like you're burning calories left and right then all of a sudden you get the big leagues i'm not catching anymore i'm just playing left field i'm just eating the same way I normally would.

2:51:13And also I'm like, dude, you're fat. Like, dude, you like, you got to. So there was like, yeah, I guess you got to figure it out. Eat different. Yeah. It's like at the time it's like, I was like, what the fuck?

2:51:24PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we literally all got our steaks. You got a salad. This sucks. Man, like I'm watching all these dudes are sitting down eating a nice bone in filet right now. And I'm sitting there crushing the chicken Caesar salad. It sucks. Also, congrats on Indiana football. Wow. That was awesome. Wow. Are you guys a football school now? I think so. You got to be. He went to a national championship. I ain't no Cinderella story. No. That's not a Cinderella story. It's too bad Cadex not here right now. I'm sure he'd love to meet you. Yes. That would have been awesome. He had a good run there in the playoffs.

2:51:59I'll tell you that. But watching his videos online, he was everywhere. He's something, yeah. But, yeah, dude. like going to so i went we went to the notre dame game when they they got beat in the playoffs their first year in the playoffs and you know it was like man like it's a good run you know like don't know if it's gonna happen again and then like you know you're still falling and you're like man they look good they look good they look they look real good they're like holy shit like they look real good now they're you know that i remember the penn state game yeah so my sister my sister get married and it's so we're in the wedding it's like time to go to the venue and we got the game on at their house while we're waiting i'm like and it's in the fourth quarter with like a minute to go i'm like do we gotta go like yeah so i'm like all right i'm turning this game on the car literally pull up into the end of the venue on the on the touchdown throw like the most like i i can't believe the guy even got his foot down yeah it was like yeah it was the craziest thing i've ever seen where it looks like he's gonna step out he somehow turns and the foot that was out of bounds was the one that actually touches inbounds yeah i'm like what's going on right now and uh so then ohio state game big 10 championship uh watching with my boys and you know growing up in Ohio right so like I all my boys are Ohio State fans and you know I grew up watching Ohio State football yeah you know I did and uh you know it's funny because it's just it means something a little bit different when it's like the school you went to yeah and you you know and it's like you're all in it this took all the Ohio out of me yeah I'm like no let's go and uh and they were probably so

2:53:51PFT Commenter:Oh, man. And we go in there and, you know, what a game. So I'm like, man, this is going to get real. And so I get a call from the assistant athletic director who was our radio guy in Indiana, baseball radio guy. And he's like, hey, you know, the Rose Bowl, he goes, it was great. You know, we're obviously going to the Peach Bowl. He's like, you want to be the captain out there that stands next to him? I'm like, fuck yeah. I got a kid coming. I got to figure this out. So I talked to my wife. I'm like, hey, they called. They want me to go out. She's like, all right, go. So I go. I take my brother-in-law.

2:54:32I'm standing there on the field. Just look around. It's like 90 % Indiana fans inside there, which is awesome. And here comes the dudes, captains. And I'm like, man, I'm thinking, what am I going to say to these guys? like you know like first off you know who the fuck i am and second off like what am i gonna do and i look at these dudes and i mean you know i'm 33 man like these dudes are what like 20 year olds well indiana like 25 easy easy but uh it's within the rules but uh these dudes come up they're massive i'm just looking at these dudes in their eyes and i'm man i know exactly i i didn't say this i'm like man i know exactly how you feel but i'm so jealous because you guys actually get to go hit someone and we got to try to hit a baseball right that's getting thrown at us yeah i'm like i'm not gonna say a fucking word and so like i just hey good luck that's it fist bump i'm like i'm just gonna stand here and act like i'm invisible and uh you know go out there winning then we go to the national championship uh i took all the roommates and oh hell yes yeah that's incredible it was awesome great experience i mean sitting on the 50 uh i mean hell of a game miami had an unbelievable defense i mean that first drive when they pop mendoza right in his chin i was like oh boy yeah we're gonna be in for one but uh and like this like the this the other cinematic play that they're hopefully they build a statue of like the fourth down run yeah spin move jump touchdown right unbelievable so you would recommend

2:56:05PFT Commenter:that to everyone else to have your college win a national championship oh man would i ever i would have never thought it would have happened in a million years for indiana football too i would say you're crazy dude i bought the season tickets when i was a freshman in college and i like show where is everyone they're all just over in those field driver they're tailgating where is everyone right but like uh and then this yeah to see it now you're like wow that was that was so cool sig's got those guys rolling man yeah it's pretty awesome yeah well kyle you're the man we love uh Having you here. Catching up.

2:56:38PFT Commenter:Best of luck. You are the number one athlete on part of my take, just so you know. Thank you, guys. We always cut your back. I guess you'd have to complete the whole infinity stone. You'd have to play for the Mets, which I don't think you're going to ever do. So that's memes as a Mets fan. So just stay away from the Mets. And then, yeah, you're good.

2:56:56Big Cat:Wait, can you confirm you will never play for the Mets? Huh? Will you promise that? Me? That you won't ever play for the Mets? Yeah, sure. Okay, there it is. Done. Sorry memes. Sorry memes.

2:57:07PFT Commenter:You're out. All right. Thanks so much, Schwarbs. All right. Thanks, guys.

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2:58:33PFT Commenter:for details okay let's wrap up the show we got faqs with the new book coming out has there been any old memories or stories we kind of talked about that uh has been any old memories or stories have been brought up while writing chapters that have caused issues amongst the group thinking about if i brought up 10 years of history with my friends something negative would come up eventually. Love you guys. No, I don't think so. I think it just brought up anything the opposite. Yeah, actually, it was the exact opposite. I was like, damn, I time I'm not high right now, but I feel high saying this time just makes no sense to me anymore.

2:59:11PFT Commenter:It just it's partially because of COVID fucked my ability to understand time, but also just the fact that we've been doing this for 10 years and it's just what the fuck? It's just crazy. It's just...

2:59:26Big Cat:The whole thing just makes no sense. The crazy part about time is it doesn't stop. I agree. Can you give the origin story of Soggy Sorrows? We all know what it is, but why? Was it? I think I remember. I think back in like 2016 or 2017, we said everybody bring three new segment ideas for the podcast.

2:59:46PFT Commenter:We should do that again this summer.

2:59:48Big Cat:Yeah, we should. I think it was Hank. By the way, we have to make a friend. Oh, yeah.

2:59:53PFT Commenter:I got my eyes on a guy. I forgot. Zach, pick a, let's say, put in the note to remind us a week before, but let's say July 24th, so the week before that. Nope, sorry. July 29th, the week before that. Remind us to all bring three new segments.

3:00:15Big Cat:Okay. Can do it. Sure.

3:00:17PFT Commenter:Yeah.

3:00:18Big Cat:So we did one of those, and one of us, I don't think it was me. Was it Hank? I think it was... The double doink was the first one? No. But somebody suggested that when we get sad, when our team loses, that we just pour water on ourselves. And we're like, that makes sense. Was it... What was the first one? I'm trying to remember. The double doink was awkward because it was kind of like the Wisconsin where you were so mad. It was so mad. But I had to be like, hey, you have to get sad. You got to get wet.

3:00:49PFT Commenter:Imagine if the double doink happened with Max. it wouldn't have happened. Yeah, it would have gone in.

3:00:56Big Cat:Cody Parkey. It would have gone in. Hank, you had one, didn't you? I had a bunch. Like, real early on. I feel like there was a really, there was a very, very small Soggy Sorrows that you did for, like, a regular season loss. Yeah. That kicked it off. Maybe, like, a heartbreaking, like, come-from-behind loss. You tried to make me do it for Gordon Hayward.

3:01:16PFT Commenter:Yeah. Oh, speaking of which, I mean, we're taping this in the morning, but there might be tonight. Yeah. Sixers. Oh, yeah. Fuck. That sucks.

3:01:30You guys are already the number one sports podcast, but what's one metric or milestone for the pod that you're all looking to surpass? What's the next giant handle for PMT in the future? Is it numbers thing or is it something qualitative? I would like to become the first sports podcast to do a live show at the YouTube theater. Oh, we are. And get a plaque for it. Tuesday, May 5th.

3:01:52PFT Commenter:Everyone buy tickets. They're giving us a plaque, which I love. It's a true where were you moment in history. A billion streams on Spotify would be cool. I think we're at 500 million. Yeah. We have the 250 out there, and I believe we're close to 500 million. That's going to be pretty nuts when we get to a billion.

3:02:10Big Cat:I can't wait for a 500th episode. That's going to be a big one.

3:02:13PFT Commenter:Yep. I think at this point, we're kind of like LeBron, like the longevity thing. You know? get our kids podcasting with us yeah yeah that might be it actually yeah my kids someday being

3:02:26Big Cat:like hey it's time to go to work you're podcasting no okay so it's like the alley-oop if your son gets the lottery ball yeah that will be a true like okay i've done it all moment yeah if my son ants me what is this video you just sent max what uh that's my live reaction to the double

3:02:43PFT Commenter:doink oh speaking of which i think that was like the first reaction video i ever filmed yeah i took my shirt off immediately out of excitement and then i and then i took this video were you recording as the kick went up no it's just it's just right it's just right after i don't know why i took that video um max speaking of which i just realized we uh our good friend todd mcshay did send us a video of so why don't we play it do you have any others i'm i'm emailing it to you max do you have any other questions uh the last one is just what happened to those fake science match you guys were getting the ones that two have gotten his teammates i gave one to chef donnie chef donnie yeah it's just chef i might take the other one and i have one in my garage for stella that i haven't i gotta use yeah i mean the chef donnie chef donnie believes in it he's chef donnie gets naked gets on his mat every single night does his little sleep workout so yeah it works if it works for one person, then I'm happy.

3:03:41PFT Commenter:If you believe in anything, it works. That's just kind of how it works. This is Todd McShay for being wrong about Cole Payton. Well, yeah, for being sad that Cole Payton didn't go in the fifth round. Or he went in the fifth round, not the fourth round. To the Eagles. Soft benching for Jalen Hurts. Todd, by the way, looks really good. I'm not going to cry for you, Big Cat. I'm not going to cry for Cole Payton. I'm not sad You know, there's nothing wrong with late round I mean, yeah, he looks like Tebow, and I get it. It comes from the left side, and he's got some tight upper body. And he was like a running back, a fullback for the first couple years.

3:04:26PFT Commenter:Cole Payton can play, man. I'm not sad. Did you see Ty Simpson? He did. Look at that hair. What about that? Backwards hat. No one had Ty Simpson at 13. I don't get any messages from you saying send me a video. You nailed 13 with Ty Simpson. but here I am. Yeah, it was rough. But you know what's not going to be rough? When the Eagles have a quarterback from North Dakota State, they finally get the right one from North Dakota State. His name's Cole Payton, and he takes over as a starter two years from now, and I'm going to get the last lap. And so is Cole. I'm not crying. Yeah. That would be sick, Max.

3:05:08Can you imagine?

3:05:09PFT Commenter:Would that be so sick, Max? Two years is a long time from now. Right, but wouldn't that be sick? If Colpate was awesome, it's not that long at all.

3:05:18Big Cat:Do you remember what you did two years ago? Yeah, 100%. I remember what I did two years ago. So long ago. I drafted Jaden Daniels. Yeah, so long ago. Yeah. So long ago.

3:05:29PFT Commenter:All right, good show, boys.

3:05:33Big Cat:Colpate, the future.

3:05:35PFT Commenter:Numbers. 11, 5. Is everyone going to get this?

3:05:38Big Cat:11, 56.

3:05:40PFT Commenter:77. 15. If I get this a second time before anyone gets one, Jacob got one. Jacob. Sushi sounds good. He casted Jacob off. I mean, he barely. It was a light love match. He posted a picture. He got fucked up, dude. He got fucked up. We almost lost him. Oh, hurry up, Shane. Hurry up. Hurry up, Shane. 24. Hurry up. Hurry up, Jacob. Hurry up. Hurry up. 37. 37 and 12. 37 and 12.

3:06:1452 Ah So close to 56 52 One more? Yeah One more 56 77 51 Why do you keep doing 77?

3:06:24PFT Commenter:I don't know I did 23 for a really long time And I got it So you like BJ Edgecombe? Luca? Or Luca Yeah Damn Two 77s That's a 40 something That's a 19 19 19. Not even close. 19? Max doesn't know how to read. It's tough. It's so far away. Yeah. All right. See ya.

3:06:52Big Cat:Love you guys. Happy birthday to Barbaro the horse. Happy birthday to Jay Cutler. Yeah.

3:06:58PFT Commenter:Cody.

3:06:59Big Cat:And happy birthday to Justin Thomas. Rames? No, I'm glad you got that one. Got which one? Jay Cutler. Happy birthday to Jonathan Toes. Oh, Jonathan Toes. Okay. Does everybody, does everyone in Buffalo know the words to O Canada? Like dude does every hockey player know that Buddy yeah I mean do you not know the words To Canada No

3:07:18PFT Commenter:Why would we we're Americans Oh yeah you guys are so fucking hardcore Why don't you enlist in the army then What What the fuck dude The Canadian The Mountie That was Why don't you learn how to try to be I don't want to be a Mountie Who doesn't know the words to Canada Who doesn't know the words to Canada I don't think a lot of people

3:07:34Big Cat:Probably don't know the words to Canada

3:07:35PFT Commenter:None of us do You guys aren't hockey fans then No and why would we learn the words That's the most I was learning the words. I never learned the words. I just know it from hearing it so much.

3:07:45Big Cat:Oh, Canada. Oh, sick. You played in the league. Native land. Yeah, you're welcome.

3:07:50PFT Commenter:Stand beside her and got me. I actually, I don't know. I sang it once. Remember at the Rough and Rowdy in Providence? They pelted me with beers. You probably know more than you think. I do. You're right. Oh, Canada, our home and native land.

3:08:07Big Cat:Truth from the Son and all our hearts demand From thousands of times and thousands of times

3:08:20PFT Commenter:The armies of the Son O Canada, we stand on God for Thee Oh Canada, we stand on God for thee. Oh yeah, we know all the words.

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