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10:36PFT Commenter:If you're playing from where they're playing, yeah. Like if you're playing the course they're playing today, no chance.

10:42Big Cat:What's the best you've ever shot? Ball and cup. Ball and cup. It was, but it was at like a par 70. I think I shot an 87.

10:52PFT Commenter:Okay. Yeah. I don't know ball and cup. You're shooting 110 at Augusta. I'm saying I could not that I do it every time. Well, I mean, but that you got to say it with your chest. Anyone could say anything if they say the word could.

11:06Big Cat:Okay. 110. Yeah, I could do it. Yeah, I could do it. No, no, no. But not could like I would. That's what you have to say. I mean, there's no doubt about breaking 150.

11:17PFT Commenter:Yeah, but yeah, I would. Because it could. Anyone. Best day of your life. You could do anything.

11:24Big Cat:Hey, could dunk a basketball. I'm delusional, but I'm not trying to be super delusional. I don't think that I could do it every time. But I think that... One time. No, let's say... You get one round at Augusta. One round. One round at Augusta. So what are you shooting? Not every time. It's not one time.

11:40PFT Commenter:And hold on. Before you answer this question, it's what are you shooting? and if you don't beat that score, you're dead. Dead? Okay, wait, my drop-dead score.

11:49Big Cat:That's a different conversation. I think that's a different conversation. All right, well, I want the drop-dead score, then we can go to the next one. The drop-dead score, everybody should have their drop-dead score. Yes, you have to know your drop-dead score.

11:58PFT Commenter:My drop-dead score at Augusta, 175.

12:00Big Cat:Okay, my drop - I'm going 300. 300? I think my drop, I'm going to say 130. Because I want to live a little bit. I want to feel like maybe if everything goes bad, I might die on this course. because that way I feel like I accomplished something. 130. Okay.

12:16PFT Commenter:And then the follow-up question is, what do you honestly think, if you go out and play your best, what are you shooting at Augusta? My best.

12:26Big Cat:The best I've ever played up to this point in my life. Correct. I'm probably shooting about 105.

12:34PFT Commenter:Hank, do you think this is...

12:37Big Cat:Help me out here.

12:38PFT Commenter:I think 130 would be a good score for you.

12:42Big Cat:100. That's my drop dead score. I know. That would be a bad score. I die. That would be a bad score for me. I know. I'm worried for you. Everyone should have a drop dead score, and it should be tested at least once in your life.

12:55PFT Commenter:Yeah. I don't know, PFT.

12:57Big Cat:I feel like Augusta's pretty damn hard. I respect Augusta. It was more so the people that were like, dude, you can break 150. I think everybody, everyone here should be able to break 150 at Augusta.

13:07PFT Commenter:I would not. That's not my drop dead score. No. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm not doing that. Matt, no chance.

13:14Big Cat:0 % chance. Yeah. No chance. Is it just tips at Augusta, or do they have a spot for regular people? I think they've got members. But there's this guy who is a performance coach at Akros Golf, and he's a golf stat pro, Lou Stagner. And he hit me up. He said, assuming that you're an 18 index, your course handicap will be minus 31. At every skill level, people tend to average about three shots above their course handicap. so 72 plus 31 plus 3 equals 106 that's what he would project me shoot but then he says i'd add some strokes on top of that for the situation hard to say exactly how many 109.5 is a good line and who's this guy uh he has golf stat pro in his twitter name how many people said that you were crazy i didn't i didn't read those got it got it i'm only reading the ones that agree with me, Max.

14:06Big Cat:Do you know how the internet works? Yeah.

14:09PFT Commenter:Breaking moves. What do we got? Joel Embiid has been diagnosed with appendicitis and will undergo surgery this afternoon in Houston.

14:20Big Cat:No guts. Oh, no. Yep. Here we go. Let's make more jokes about a guy's injury history. Not really an injury, it's just an ailment. Oh, yeah, illness. That sounds way better. I said ailment. That sounds way better. an illness. He could die from this. Well, no.

14:39PFT Commenter:He's getting surgery. He should be good. Thank God. Who knows what could happen under surgery? You guys would be laughing, and this clip would look bad on you. I hope that he has successful surgery and everything's okay with Joel Embiid.

14:49Big Cat:Same.

14:50PFT Commenter:Same.

14:50Big Cat:Agreed.

14:52PFT Commenter:Alright, let's get back to Masters. So we all agree. So how long is he out for? Is he going to be better without it? How long is the... What is the appendice? Do you guys ever all have your appendices? Yeah. I've got mine. Yeah. I'm going to take it out. You did? Yeah. Did you have, like, almost die? Did you, like, go to the doctor to get checked for it? And they were like, we got to take it out now. Yeah, I went to the x-ray room. They're like, we got to go. And they shot me to the surgery room. No way. Yeah, serious. So you guys keep laughing.

15:20Big Cat:But it is a quick turnaround. No one has laughed. No one has laughed. I think it's a miracle that they caught it. Yeah. Like, thank God. And he's getting it out right before the playoffs. This is why it's, like, it's actually a good thing that Joel Embiid goes to see the doctor, like every single day because that way they caught it good if he didn't have that injury history he might have died today so god bless we're happy this happened that he's getting

15:46PFT Commenter:surgery i mean not happy that he has appendicitis we're happy he's in good hands me too no one's happier than me right you don't agree we were the only one hank is really the one that sounded the happiest yeah he's the one who also alerted us so i'll just if he doesn't i'd already seen it back here yeah but if he doesn't alert me i can't say i can't say thoughts and prayers minutes ago thoughts and prayers to joel and beat yeah i hope he's okay i would give him my appendix if i could same i don't know how that works is that what i don't even understand what the appendix appendix does what does it do why why why do we get it out i think it's shit it's shit shit but But then why are you able to get it out?

16:30PFT Commenter:It's one of those. Why do we have it?

16:32Big Cat:It lost its evolutionary use. We used to use it for digesting shit. We used to eat raw meat and stuff that was worse for you. And then as we developed farms and fishing, then we don't really need the appendix anymore.

16:50PFT Commenter:So we just don't need it. But we all have it? Yep. So it's just sitting there? And then the only thing you can do that is bad?

16:58Big Cat:Yeah, it's the wisdom teeth of the stomach.

17:01PFT Commenter:Damn. Do you guys all have your wisdom teeth? No. I got all four of mine. I have mine out. I got mine out. And tonsils. What are tonsils? You get those out too? Some people do. Yeah, but why? I don't know, but I just know that you eat a ton of ice cream after that. I knew that too. So maybe I have got my tonsils. I've been prepping for my tonsils to be out. What does the tonsils do? I think they can get infected. Right, but what is their purpose? No idea.

17:28Big Cat:I have no idea what the count is. I think it's breathing.

17:30PFT Commenter:I'm just curious about these things that you have, and then you can get them out and be fine.

17:35Big Cat:First line defense for immune systems.

17:37PFT Commenter:Oh. Okay. Kind of like an air filter, maybe? Yeah, it is. It is an air filter. You're right. All right. The more you know. What were we talking about? Masters? Masters. Rory. Rory. Rory. Patrick Reed. Scotty so far. Yep. Max had a decent first round. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Brooks is out there doing his thing. Pretty much is. What was the, Hank, can you explain to me, everyone was buzzing about this guy who just sucks. Potguider or whatever his name is. He has the yips. So what's his deal? He can hit bombs. Probably the longest hitter on the tour. Super young. Hits it like 350 yards. And he's got the yips bad.

18:23Like how bad?

18:25PFT Commenter:Like Frankie Borelli, he had like three of those shots where he just legitimately like skulled shots to the other side of the green. Ooh. Can't chip. He had 12. Is he good otherwise? Like if he didn't have the yips? He had four triple bogeys today. Yikes. Yikes. But is he good if he didn't have the yips? He's currently FedEx 44th, world ranking 77. He's young. He won on tour last year. He's a bomber. But Augusta is not.

18:59Big Cat:I mean, you got to have hands. You got to have hands. PFT, do you have hands? I got two of them. It sounds like he's really good. Is it just this week that he's got the yips? Or did he have the yips coming into Augusta?

19:13PFT Commenter:This is the first. I mean, I think today he just kind of fell apart.

19:17Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. I see. I'm different. I would not do that. He's 12 over. Yeah, gross You would never No, fuck that, I would quit I would quit if it looked like I was going to fail I'm looking at the leaderboard right now I see one name That I think would Every dad in America Remember when Duke lost To UConn the other week Do you guys remember that game?

19:42PFT Commenter:Wait, you're going to have to explain it Because I don't

19:44Big Cat:It was at the buzzer, pretty much at the buzzer A couple tenths of a second were left afterwards 10 seconds left and Duke inbounded the ball. It got stolen at midcourt and then it got passed back to Mullins and then Mullins made a shot. Now I remember. You remember how you came your pants for that? Multiple times. Every dad in America would have that exact same reaction for probably a month if Fred Couples won the Masters. Oh yeah, he always gets out to a great start. He's tied for 13th right now. Smoothest swing in the world. He's one under, which is awesome through 11th. And he's still got that great swing.

20:18Big Cat:I think he's playing with a day glow yellow. He does. Like the high visibility yellow golf ball.

20:23PFT Commenter:And he has like his golf shoes look like skateboard shoes. Yeah. He's got unlimited swag. Aura.

20:31Big Cat:Yeah, because his swing is the sweetest swing possible. Yeah, and he always does get out to a hot start. He's tied for 13th right now. I would love to see that.

20:40PFT Commenter:That's got to be so awesome to just every single year just be able to come and play in the Masters even though you're not playing competitively day in and day out.

20:49Big Cat:Did you see Jack Nicklaus' tee shot? No. What did he do? So every year, Jack Nicklaus, he comes out to do the ceremonial tee shot. Oh, did he spray it? He hooked it a little bit. And I actually like this. I say keep letting Jack do it. There should be some element of danger when you go to Augusta National Golf Course. And in this case, it is the patrons that are lined up on the left side of the fairway. So he stepped up. hit it and uh he gave the cutest little sheepish like i'm sorry after he hit it yeah watch this

21:23PFT Commenter:six-time masters winner you can you can hit wherever you want you can you can spray oh yeah that was fine and then his little i'm sorry i would take that drive all day yeah

21:34Big Cat:i think most people that are there would like to get hit by a drive yeah jack nicholas absolutely Absolutely.

21:41PFT Commenter:Yeah, Freddie Boom Boom. Winning the Masters, obviously the coolest thing ever, but I think the coolness just keeps going further and further the older you get and the fact that you just keep getting to come back with a green jacket, go to the dinner, and play in the tournament no matter what. I mean, what a feeling that must be. It's pretty excellent. Just every single year. Oh, yeah, I'm going to play Augusta because I won it in 1992.

22:06Big Cat:You can pitch on a vacation for yourself every year. It's like a new holiday. Yeah. You get your own holiday given to you midlife, which rocks. Sam Burns, five under right now. Jason Day is up there.

22:20PFT Commenter:Hey, who are you rooting for outside of bets? Who would you want to win? I like Jason Day a lot. Yeah. He's the lads. He's been doing a lot of YouTube stuff, so I've been watching a lot of him and his boys. I like Jason Day. That's really good. Sam Burns, I like. I bet on Patrick Reed, Goddard Up, Akshay. Gary Woodland is a long shot. I have him to go top 10. He's two under right now. Is this a weird statement? I was definitely rooting against Rory because it was funny when he would choke. Now that he's won the Masters, I think going back to back would be a cool story. I might be rooting for that.

23:03PFT Commenter:I watched the Amazon did a great documentary on the Masters last year with Rory. They also, there was a documentary about Ken Griffey Jr. As a photographer at the Masters last year. The picture of Rory, like, that is a sports illustrated. The picture everyone uses. Ken Griffey took that picture. Is that the one that he had the pencil drawing that took six months? Different picture, but same similar image. But that on YouTube, if you have time, it's like 40 minutes. Unbelievable. Unbelievable watch. Because, like, the director of the Augusta photography is like some British guy. He's like, I was fucking annoyed.

23:37PFT Commenter:He was very honest where he's like, we got all this shit going on. We got Ken Griffey Jr. coming to do photography this week. I don't want to deal with this shit. And he kind of did reviews of them after each round. And the first round, it wasn't great. He's like, you got to get better pictures. You got to get better pictures. And then he's going through his pictures after Sunday. And he's like, wait. We're using these. He's like, send me these now. Because he was like, oh, yeah, hopefully you get one picture we can post. And then he's going through his pictures from 18. And he's like, wait a second.

24:05PFT Commenter:I like these are the pictures wait this was a documentary it's like yeah they did a they've they followed him a short it's it's a it's a 40 minute like it's a it's on YouTube it's like a 40 minute documentary it's phenomenal uh what was your question I care oh Rory the that was I'm still rooting against Rory you it was a good it was it was a good story and it was a good doc but it was such a tough... As a hate watch last year, it was brutal watching rooting for him to lose and him winning, but I still... If push comes to shove and he's in it Sunday, I'll be rooting again. See, there's something about going back-to-back that you have to tip your cap.

24:45PFT Commenter:That was pretty awesome.

24:46Big Cat:I think if it's not going to be anything related to any bets, I would really like to see...

24:50PFT Commenter:But if he's in contention against someone else on Sunday, do you think you're going to be rooting for him?

24:53Big Cat:I would root for Rose because hasn't Rose lost twice in a playoff at Augusta? Yeah. Yeah, so I feel like that's a guy I would want to see win now. It depends on who he's going against. But, excuse me,

25:10PFT Commenter:Masters, watch all weekend. Best nap of the year. And remember, Saturday, we're going to change our clocks. Oh, shit, I forgot about that. It always lines up with the Masters. Good reminder. I got you. I got you. Okay, let's do some national sports podcast topics, Before we do that, DraftKings. Every week in the NBA, stars rise, legends are made, and one player rules them all. Season long, it goes down every Tuesday. DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting part of the NBA, brings you king of the court. Here's how it works. DraftKings putting up$1 million in bonus bets each week. Opt in, apply your token, and place a$5 pregame bet on the NBA star you think will dominate each Tuesday.

25:54PFT Commenter:If your pick finishes the night leading the league in points, rebounds, and assists, they're crowned king of the court, and you win your share of$1 million in bonus bets. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app. Use code TAKE. That's code TAKE to win a share of$1 million in bonus bets if your player is king of the court. In partnership with DraftKings, the crown is yours. Okay. We're going to talk with Jerry Ombudsman about Diana Rossini and Mike Friwell, but we should say that the Takey Awards are going to – it's going to be tough to beat ratio of the year because Diana did throw out a trial balloon tweet this morning about the NFL refs, and it did not go well.

26:33PFT Commenter:No, I think, what is it, up to 2 ,000 replies? It did not go well. It wasn't. I actually, here's my honest take of what she should do, PR 101. I think she should just become like a Siwoo Kim tracker for the weekend. If she just tweeted every single golf shot of a random golfer in the Masters, flood the zone you kind of fight it off a little possibly i mean doing the fake hack thing would

26:58Big Cat:be great too if you just uh just like every hour on the hour posted a new cryptocurrency yeah just

27:04PFT Commenter:like uh yeah sedona coin yeah sedona coin yeah just imagine though like on saturday morning you wake up and it's just you know oh siwoo kim he sprayed his drive left on four he's gonna have

27:18Big Cat:I'm sure nobody would. Yeah.

27:22PFT Commenter:But if you just keep doing it, it's every shot. Yeah. Pretty long off the T. Yeah. Also, I ended up in the New York Post because I got involved in the interlocking of fingers. Look, friends sometimes go to a very romantic hotel two and a half hours from Phoenix and they interlock fingers. It happens. Shit happens. Yeah. Kate and I got set up in the interlocking of fingers.

27:45Big Cat:I also saw Zach. Like you were outdoors. Kate and I went outdoors too Were you in a dumpster Zach? They were spying on me in memes We're not sure who it was but they caught us We're out Well I guess the story is broke now Yeah we're out in the hallway, we're down the tunnel

28:00PFT Commenter:They caught us in the parking lot, it was tough

28:02Big Cat:Yeah

28:03PFT Commenter:It's hard to do that The one thing I learned from doing the interlocking fingers with Kate Was it's hard to do that and not have it be like very awkward Or it has to either be sensual or it's awkward Or super romantic Yeah, it's a very romantic way to hold someone's hands. Yeah. It's not a normal holding of hands.

28:22Big Cat:That's not a first time handhold.

28:24PFT Commenter:No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

28:27Big Cat:But yeah, I'm glad that we got Jerry on because Jerry was texting us all night on Tuesday night, just like putting us to the fire before we even recorded anything. And when we get into it, we address a lot of the concerns with Jerry.

28:40PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the bang bang of the story. No pun intended, but it happened and then we had to record right after. That had us a little thrown for a loop. I woke up on Wednesday morning. I was like, we'll see whatever else comes out. But this does on a rooftop in a romantic setting like that. I think it's tough to wiggle out of that one. It's a bad look. It's tough to wiggle out of them. I did see a picture of you at the pool.

29:06Big Cat:Yeah, yeah. So I was really embarrassed. Dave, I guess, has contacts at that same hotel. So he released a picture. It was myself, Diana, Vrabel, and the Boston guys. Yeah. The Boston guys were there. Just all hanging out at the pool. Well, yeah. The picture kind of speaks for itself. I think I might be massaging Vrabel's feet in that one. Yeah. Will's got his knee brace on.

29:33PFT Commenter:Oh, he's got to stay safe.

29:34Big Cat:Well, I mean, I think what happened here is pretty clear. Like the Boston guys probably saw me and you hung out at the pool a couple weeks ago. And so they're like, oh, all right, let's do that. I want to hang out. Yeah, we want to hang out at the pool.

29:46PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. Listen, it could all just be a big misunderstanding of elaborate handshake. That was fingers locked, hug.

29:56Big Cat:Memes is back there. I just in full for full journalistic transparency. He was doing the blowjob motion with his tongue and the hands.

30:06PFT Commenter:Yeah. It's a tough one to get out of. It's a tough one to get out of. It is. By the way, not shout out, but kind of shout out, the incredible photography. The backdrop was insane. The zoomed out one?

30:25Big Cat:Sedona's a beautiful place.

30:27PFT Commenter:That's a frameable picture.

30:29Big Cat:Beautiful spot. It's a frameable picture. I would almost say that that could be entrapment. Like, if you go with a buddy to Sedona and you're in the presence of those rocks, you're going to fall in love. Yeah. That's just how it is. Yeah, just two buddies hugging in front of, like, the most idyllic backdrop you could possibly have. Just two buddies. I can't tell you how many bros trips and bachelor parties have gone to Sedona and then just turned into a gay orgy.

30:53PFT Commenter:Yeah. It would be funny if Rabel just did a press conference. It's like, what, guys can't have friends? Yeah. We can't bro out in front of the fucking... What are those? What's that mountain range?

31:04Big Cat:I don't know what those the red rocks are. Yeah, it's the foothills of the Grand Canyon. I don't know.

31:13PFT Commenter:It's like it's probably like Lovers Lane or something. If we're being honest.

31:17Big Cat:I did. I kept refreshing and kept hoping that the A.J. Brown trade breaking today would have been the funniest thing ever.

31:25PFT Commenter:Yeah.

31:27Big Cat:The Magolan Rim.

31:30PFT Commenter:well that's not you can't put rim in there come on all right national sports podcast national sports podcast i have some stats that i want to uh blow your guys minds you ready for this i have three and we can we can you guys can decide which ones are going to blow your mind the most but i have three stats i wanted to throw out there we can go any direction we want on these the first stat is a baseball stat you ready for this one so this was yesterday i don't know the dodgers are going to play today so uh who knows if this stat stays true but it was as of let me see let me get the date right just so you know we never get stats wrong on the show it was as of wednesday with shohei otani getting on base and throwing six scoreless innings today mlb's longest active on-base streak is now up to 43 games.

32:21PFT Commenter:MLB's longest active scoreless inning streak among starting pitchers is now 28.2 innings pitched. Shohei Otani has both of them. That's insane. That's nuts. He has the longest active streak of scoreless innings and longest active streak of games on base.

32:40Big Cat:Yeah. That's just silly. What can you do? What can you do at this point?

32:43PFT Commenter:It's honestly, he's at the statistical point. He is like in the Barry Bonds range of when you Barry Bonds. There's two guys in baseball, Barry Bonds and Tony Gwynn. When you throw out a Barry Bonds or Tony Gwynn stat, it just sounds so ridiculous. But it's the truth. And you're just like, holy fuck. How's that real?

33:01Big Cat:I think also you could put Greg Maddox maybe. Greg Maddox is also in there. Some of the no hitters are some of the complete games that he had in like 80 pitches. Yeah. Or fucking insane to read about. But yeah, Shoei Otani, he is the best. He is a top five pitcher, and he's a top one hitter in baseball right now, which is insane to think that somebody was able to get good enough at both those things. They should limit the amount of starts that he can have pitching, just in terms of fairness.

33:27PFT Commenter:I'm reading this. He did give up a run after this tweet, so it ended at that. 28.2 innings pitch. Never mind, he sucks. But 28.2 innings pitch in 43 games straight on base.

33:38Big Cat:Yeah, the Shohei pitching falloff will be studied.

33:40PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah. All right, stat number two. What were you guys saying? That's pretty impressive stat. Yeah.

33:44Big Cat:Extremely.

33:45PFT Commenter:Pretty impressive stat. Here's one that I'd never thought I'd be like, wow, but it's pretty cool. Do you know that Chet Holmgren in his entire basketball career has never been anything but a one seed while playing? That's insane.

34:02Big Cat:Yeah, that is kind of crazy.

34:03PFT Commenter:So in high school, in Minahaw Academy, 2018, one seed. 2019, one seed. 2020, one seed. 2021, one seed. Gonzaga, 2022, he was a one seed. 2023, he missed the NBA season with an injury. And then 24, 25, and now this year with the 26 Oklahoma City Thunder, one seed. Every single team he's played for has been a one seed. That's nuts. So the year he was out in the NBA. Yeah. That was. We're not counting that because obviously.

34:36Big Cat:That was the get ready year for the Thunder.

34:38PFT Commenter:Yeah. But that's so silly. Yeah. Good. But how many championships has he won? One. Okay. Well, no, I'm assuming he won some in high school. Yeah.

34:47Big Cat:Probably won some in high school. He definitely won. Like state titles, I would assume. Yeah.

34:50PFT Commenter:He definitely won some in high school. If he didn't, then maybe this is a reverse stat and he's a bust.

34:56Big Cat:That's what I was going to say. Like, if he hasn't won, then you could look up. That would be what? four times as many years. He loses when he has the one seed.

35:06PFT Commenter:I'm looking right now. He won at least two. Okay. Three. Yeah. Four. He won all four.

35:14Big Cat:Okay. Yeah. So he's just good.

35:16PFT Commenter:All right. That's how it works. Yeah. So really it was the Gonzaga year that's like, wow, that's disappointing.

35:21Big Cat:That's really Mark Few.

35:22PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. The only Chet stopper is Mark Few. Yeah.

35:27Big Cat:Who's stopping this man? And it's two giant German Shepherds. Yeah.

35:31PFT Commenter:Yeah. All-time video. Yeah, great video. All-time video. Those dogs were everywhere. I think the dogs were drunk. They were everywhere in that car. All right, last stat. That was an impressive stat, right? Yeah. Last stat is Jokic stat, which he is also, he's in the category of the Shohei Barry Bonds stuff. So Jokic, there's three games left in the NBA season. He leads the league in both rebounds and assists per game. No player in NBA history has ever led both categories, even across different seasons. Wow. Pretty insane. And then here's a really nuts one. There have been over 1.4 million total 10-game spans by players in NBA history, including playoffs.

36:14PFT Commenter:And none of them did a player have as many points, rebounds, and assists as Nikola Jokic during the Nuggets' current 10-game winning streak. In the 10-game winning streak that they're on right now, he has 252 points, 145 rebounds, and 127 assists.

36:30Big Cat:I'm glad that you're bringing these stats up because especially with Jokic, we've become completely desensitized to how good he is. It's kind of crazy how desensitized we've become. Like, the guy is doing stuff that has never been dreamed about.

36:43PFT Commenter:Again, this is a 10-game span. 1.4 million total 10-game spans. Right now, in his current 10-game span, he's averaging 25 points, 14.5 rebounds, almost 13 assists a game. That's so stupid.

36:59Big Cat:it he's so fucking good i feel like we almost need to dumb the stats down more for us so that we truly can comprehend how crazy they are it's because it's it's it's insane what what he's been

37:10PFT Commenter:doing and i'm excited for the nba playoffs because of guys like yokich it's gonna be fucking sick to watch he's the man yeah like last night uh or on wednesday night you could say he had kind of an off night because he only went 14, 16, and 10. Kind of a bad night. Pedestrian. A few nights ago, he only had 8 rebounds and 13 assists, which that sucks. He did have 40 points in that game. But yeah, kind of a bum. I want to see him get a quadruple double. Oh, with blocks? Yeah. He's not like the biggest block guy. Blocks or steals. Yeah, he had the two or a Monday night. He had 35 points, 14 rebounds, 13 assists and five steals.

38:01PFT Commenter:It's still a great game. Yeah, it's an okay game.

38:05Big Cat:I would like to see the quadruple double. I would also like to see you think he's ever gotten a triple double in the first half. Hmm. I don't know. I wonder what the fastest triple-double that Jokic has gotten is.

38:21PFT Commenter:Fastest triple-double. Let's see if we can get it. Jokic. Nicole Jokic holds a record for fastest triple-double in NBA history, achieving the feat in just 14 minutes and 33 seconds. That's insane. What the fuck? In just over a quarter? Yeah, 14 minutes and 33 seconds. That's crazy. That's. How is that possible? The previous record was 17 minutes in 1955. that's crazy yeah he's amazing yokas broke his own record in a game where he did not miss a single shot until the triple double was secured often to refer to as one of the most unbreakable records in modern history jesus christ we talked to boband about him yeah we did so yeah uh the yeah the next closest in the modern era is russell westbrook did it in 17 minutes and 35 seconds 1433 You know what?

39:22PFT Commenter:And this is not because he's in the hospital getting surgery I actually totally defend Embiid being too scared to play in Denver I do I'm looking at these Jokic stats I would never want to do that

39:34Big Cat:I would go one further I'd say it's actually a plus mark for Embiid like intelligence Yeah right He's a smart guy You know when you're beat before you're beat Don't even go Right, Max?

39:53PFT Commenter:Thinking man basketball. Right, Max? I think the booth just cut out. I think the booth just... I'm done. I'm done with this discourse.

39:59Big Cat:Like, the smartest thing you can do in life is know when to walk away. Yeah. And know when to run. Yeah. Or when to get wheeled off the court. Mm-hmm. That's facts. Mm-hmm. You haven't had a basketball team ever. It's not true, Max. That's true. No, it's not true. Not true, Max. You talk so much shit, and you're a fan of the Wizards. No, no. The Wizards. It's actually really funny to say just the word Wizards. I'm not a fan of the Wizards. I gave... All right, fine. All right, fine. If they ever get good... No, next year. No, no, no, no. Next year, I'm not... You're a fan of the Wizards. Okay, I might be a fan of the Wizards.

40:33Big Cat:There has been one time that the Wizards were fun, and then our stars tried to shoot each other. Mm-hmm. I started to watch that one, too. Yeah, it's a good one. I fell asleep. That one is a good one. It's a really good one. I mean, what could have been with Gilbert Arenas and that whole crew? It was fun.

40:49PFT Commenter:Yeah. Did you guys... So the last thing I had was it's just transfer portal season for basketball. It sucks. Everyone's in the transfer portal. Max, you've been ravaged by it. We got one guy back. Yeah, Badgers recurred. It was a big get back. Shout out Tyler Perkins. John Blackwell maybe going to Duke is going to crush me. Yeah.

41:10Big Cat:Well, we had Con Caniple on Wake Up Barstool this morning, and I asked him for you. I said, well, first I asked him how many times he saw you cum in your pants when Duke lost. And then he was like, yeah, I think he rubbed that in too far. No, in my pants? Yeah. No, I didn't rub it in. No, like in his face. Oh, because I was going to say it just kept on flowing. Yeah. You didn't rub the cum in his face. You rubbed you cumming into his face. Anyways, I asked him if just like maybe one of his brothers can stay in Wisconsin.

41:38PFT Commenter:Yeah.

41:39Big Cat:What did he say? We're recruiting. Yeah, we're recruiting the next knipple. His younger brother is talking to Wisconsin right now. Nice. I just tried to put it in his ear. You got to get him on PMT. Just keep one knipple in house. Was he fun? He's a good guy. Yeah. Okay.

41:52PFT Commenter:I'm happy that you... I mean, he did choke himself last year. They choked him. He did, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. And we also have... One of my favorite parts of the transfer portal is the guys who... I think this happened when the Badgers lost Chuckie Hepburn because he had a Bucky tattoo. but did you guys see the Nebraska player who got a tattoo of, he got 28 and seven, which is the record Nebraska had this year. Kind of a weird tattoo anyway. And then he went in the transfer portal.

42:24Big Cat:I mean, maybe that was his way of being like, dude, I'll always love you guys. Like what a special season that is. I'll even get it tattooed. All right. See ya.

42:30PFT Commenter:I feel like 28, seven. You can't, that's not good enough.

42:34Big Cat:Better than getting one, eight, seven on your arm.

42:36PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. But like, You've got to be like 31-3, 31-4. Yeah. 28-7.

42:44Big Cat:But he should just get the bracket tattooed. I know. Just get Nebraska. If I won a college basketball national championship, I would get the entire 68-team bracket tattooed across my back.

42:56PFT Commenter:You'd be like the Indianapolis Marriott?

42:58Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. It would be the... You ever seen the movie Red Dragon? Yes. Great movie. Underrated movie, by the way. Yes, great movie. My entire back would just be covered with a tattoo of the bracket, and I would just circle myself in the middle.

43:12PFT Commenter:Yeah. Zach, do you have anything else for us before we get to Jerry O 'Connell, and then we're going to have Boban?

43:19Big Cat:Good game coming up tonight. We got Celtics-Knicks 630.

43:22PFT Commenter:Oh. Okay. Any predictions? I'd like to predict Knicks win. Okay. Hank? I'd like to predict the Celtics. Oh, wow. We got memes. Can you break the tie? I would also like to see the Knicks win, but I think this is a feel-out game for both teams. A feel-out game? What happens in a feel-out game? Jalen Brown's out.

43:44Big Cat:Yeah.

43:44PFT Commenter:And so is Derek White.

43:45Big Cat:So it's mainly for Tatum. Knicks haven't played Tatum this year. You got to feel him out.

43:51PFT Commenter:You got to feel body on body. Yeah. Yeah. Touch hands. Are we going to lose the Sixers-Celtics first round matchup? Are we on? Sixers might not even get the seventh seed. So you got the Flyers, though. So we are going to lose it is what you're saying. I don't want to lose it, but we're going to lose it. I mean, there's a lot of things that need to happen. Okay. The hope is not the hope for it is still there. But who do you guys have left? We have the Rockets tonight without Embiid, and that'll put us in a tie for this for the eight with if we lose tonight, we'll be tied with the eight. And then we have two tanking teams.

44:30Big Cat:Okay. but I don't know. The tanking has somehow managed to increase in the NBA. Oh, it's crazy. We talked about it a couple of shows ago, but their teams, they got caught fouling while they were up. Yeah. In the fourth quarter.

44:45PFT Commenter:No, it's nuts. I mean, I'm watching it because the Bulls, they won a game the other night. It's like, why did you just win a game? That hurts us. What are you doing? Big time.

44:55Big Cat:There's also, I don't know how to talk about this news, but the Department of Justice has opened a probe into the NFL over the TV deals that they have and the streaming rights. Uh-oh. Zach, would you mind reading an article about it and then recapping it for us? Because I reached out to Florio to get a very dumb explanation that I could understand, and his explanation actually made me not understand it at all. It made me more confused in it. I'm going to try to grab some spark notes for you. Yeah, this is what Florio says. it's part of the NFL's effort to get the networks and Amazon to pay more for settled deals.

45:33Hmm.

45:35Big Cat:I don't know. Get to the bottom for Monday. Yeah, we need a detailed dive into this act.

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47:26Big Cat:a lefty can you still buy the pack for like a lefty friend you can yeah but yeah it's a collector's

47:31PFT Commenter:item you could buy it for a lefty friend but i would be worried about getting it into your car if you're not a lefty yeah because like like picking it up as a non-lefty it's not built for right well you buy it online so you can only it gets shipped to you so it's double click to lefty

47:44Big Cat:with your left hand reach reach across yeah click left and also like it's one of those things where

47:49PFT Commenter:Or you might not be a lefty now, but you can buy it and have it. And then if you ever switch. Let me see the pack. Give me the pack. Oh, shit. I could be a lefty. Look at that. I'm holding it with my left hand right now.

48:04Big Cat:You should try to switch to left-handed big head.

48:06PFT Commenter:Well, no. See, I tried to put it in my right hand and I dropped it right away. That's not for righty. It's left-handed technology. All right, so go get a twisted tea today. Grab a refreshing twisted tea today. Okay, here he is. Jerry O 'Connell. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is our fantasy expert, Jerry O 'Connell, who has now gotten a new title. He is part of my take on Budsman to tell us what we got wrong. I realize this, Jerry. Something happened in the last, I don't know, probably six months where I'm like, Jerry's just part of our life forever. and he's just you're just we're not getting rid of you and i love you so much but you're just part of our life forever everyone is what it is everyone should have a friend like jerry o 'connell

48:56Big Cat:yeah that tells you the painful truth sometimes yeah and that's why we love you jerry and he's

49:00PFT Commenter:in his pool for everyone's watching on netflix uh he is in his pool right now he's having a great he's looking great he's maybe how many laps did you do today jerry i do my uh i do my 20 minutes Every morning I come in, I do 20 minutes. Okay. I'm just getting ready for the, I'm getting ready for the bachelor party. It's just, listen guys, it's just a simple pool. It's a simple Southern California pool. It's not like an adults only like special spa exclusive$2 ,000 a night. It's just a simple, not heated pool. There's no like fountain squirting around. Yeah. No hot tub. No, no hot tub, no rooftops.

49:44nothing nothing crazy yeah um guys thank you uh thank you so much for letting me be a part of this it's funny it's been a crazy week uh it's been a crazy week obviously for everybody but for some reason it's been really crazy for part of my take like this story you you have to admit and i'm gonna first of all anything i say today is a legend okay when this is being read in a courtroom i want it to be read that i said any any alluding we make to toward an affair or a relationship is alleged allegedly there is an affair going on we have no proof there's just some finger locking yeah there's some dancing on a rooftop what if i say can i can i i don't

50:27PFT Commenter:have to say alleged if i say that you know just finger locking with your boys you can say that But I'm saying if I allude to an affair today, when this is being read in a courtroom, those guys are finger locking. Yeah. Hey, listen. Who hasn't gone to a private hotel, a sex hotel two and a half hours away from Scottsdale to finger lock?

50:51Big Cat:And Jerry, also, we can read into the record. You're a very successful, famous actor. Yeah. So this is a monologue that you're doing. It's a character. this is um this is uh uh no guys this is really me talking i'm just but i'm just saying it's an alleged affair it is so funny guys if you if and i should ask this of everyone in the room especially people who are about to get married okay because it's funny who's in a relationship there big cat is max is about to be married yes yeah jerry remember you met my kids I know I hung out at your house I taught them I was talking to them about what Nikki Smokes was doing at the summer house the exact quote was in front

51:38PFT Commenter:of my four and two year old was do you really think this Nikki Smokes guy's a rapist and I was like Jerry it's my four and two year old right here okay guys enough bullshitting let's let's get to the nitty gritty because it's been really funny it's actually been it's been fun hearing you guys this week because it's been really tough for both of you It's been really hard. Like you guys aren't allowed to talk about this. And Wednesday show was the most insane part of my take show because no offense to Max Homa, who was a great guest and very, very, very, very special guest. It was like I couldn't listen to anything else after that news drop.

52:15PFT Commenter:Yeah. And while you guys have been really put in a tough position, let's just acknowledge who's really put in a tough position in this alleged situation that's happening. which is the what fellas the finger locking memes who is in the worst position here guys hey physically Max children I agree with that that part is sad I agree so let's just acknowledge that good acknowledgement that said if you guys ever see my wife finger locking with Todd Munkin or Shane Steichen or Kevin Stefanski. I want you to go full in. None of this, oh, we know Jerry, we know Rebecca. We don't know Rebecca. So you've banned her from talking to us.

53:17PFT Commenter:What about you interlocking with someone famous? What would you want us to do there? Good question. Great question. Great question. I got to tell you, and this brings up a very interesting point, okay? Because I found the finger-locking. I didn't see the finger-locking photos until later. I just saw the pool ones. Yeah.

53:49it's finger locking more intimate okay let's let's just bring up another similar example yeah uh coach coach my coach coach meyer was filmed in a bar putting not interlocking fingers but maybe putting a finger in a young lady's anus do you remember that yeah the old chinese finger trap yeah yeah okay but it was actually in it was in the pants it was like in the it's Wedged, yeah. In the anus, right? I don't know if it was in the pants.

54:19PFT Commenter:It was on the It was brushing the anus. It was a co-ed's anus that was being touched. It was, yeah. This is very funny, too, because Urban Meyer I, like, always forget, like, he Stop sniffing your fingers, Jared. Urban Meyer is a co-worker now. Is he really? Yeah, it's alright. So you guys can't? No, I just said he did. Hold on a second. I'm doing work, dude. I'm doing work. Just give me a second. Was that your dog? Oh, gosh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I have another dog, too. Here, for those on Netflix, if you want to get your money's worth. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Come. Come.

54:58Come. Come here.

54:59Big Cat:Train your dog, Jerry. Make me grab you one. Your dog doesn't respect you. Yeah. You got to work on that. Anyway. Okay. What is more? Let me ask everyone in the room. What is more internet? I mean, what is more intimate? The finger locking? or what urban meyer did because this is a very good question it seems this alleged affair alleged affair was premeditated meaning someone made a reservation two people drove out they met up they went back to meetings that's what the timeline allegedly seems to be if this alleged affair actually happened or is it less offensive that you just happen to be in a bar in ohio and you put a digit in somebody's anus what is more what is more to you as a spouse what would be more offensive because i gotta tell you i think the premeditation for me would be more offensive yeah i actually i tend to agree with you on that one like anyway everyone's been in a bar and like fingers slip into places that they normally don't go to that's you know spur of the moment you have a couple of few uh yeah a few too many twisted teas who amongst us but yeah the premeditation they're like planning it out like getting online if you have to like book a reservation and then yeah that that to me does feel like a bigger betrayal like it'd be like you know

56:21PFT Commenter:we you know jerry that some of us on this podcast struggle with our weight like if we're on a diet and we happen to walk by a cookie and eat a cookie it's like well you know you slip up but if if we're on a diet and it's like hey guys i actually spent five hours last night baking a cake and then I ate the whole thing. It's like, come on, we know what you were doing it. You were planning it. Okay. Let's, let's get into this guys. Cause you really haven't talked about it. And, um, if you feel uncomfortable with anything, just say, I feel uncomfortable with it. First of all, shout out to Sedona. It looks beautiful.

56:54Incredible. Those shots are, I mean, it's like prehistoric energy, by the way, I want to go there with my wife, maybe revitalized do some fingy locking like dancing on a roof it looked uh it didn't it look gorgeous

57:07PFT Commenter:yeah it's really i drove through there a couple years ago and it's it's as advertised it looks like the perfect place to meet up with your bros okay here's the big question here's the big question allegedly if this was an alleged if this was at if this was a physical relationship that we've seen photos of is this considered a workplace relationship so this is an interesting topic that you were texting with pft and i about the other night and you kept on saying that the nfl was going to get involved uh and and fire diana but she's not employed by the nfl no no no No, I did not say that. I did not say that.

57:56I said the NFL is going to get involved. Okay. You actually have an answer to my question. Is this a workplace relationship? Anyone can answer. I think adjacent.

58:10Big Cat:Matt's jumping. They're not coworkers, but they work in the same place.

58:15PFT Commenter:It's adjacent. It's adjacent. They don't have the same boss. It would be like if you were just banging another actress, but not on the same. You guys weren't working on the same show. Would that be? Absolutely wrong.

58:28Big Cat:That would be a workplace. Oh, not on the same show. Yeah, not on the same show.

58:32PFT Commenter:That would be completely arbitrary. No, that's a good point. So Jared, if you were just to like fuck another actress. Allegedly. But not being the same show.

58:42Big Cat:Right. Like if you and Glenn Close had a thing.

58:45PFT Commenter:Yeah.

58:46Big Cat:You haven't worked with her, correct? I've met Glenn Close. I've met her at an event. Oh, in Sedona? I've met her at an event. No, I met her at an event in New York. Actually, Christopher Reeves' son's event. It's a wonderful organization.

59:07I met her at an event. Sounds like you guys have spent a lot of time together. Okay. Let's just say that night, and this did not happen, because I don't want to offend Glenn Close has children. I have children. I don't want to get anyone in trouble here. Let's just say Glenn Close and I finger locked hard that night. Just knock to knock, knock to knock. Would that be considered? I was being paid that night. Yeah. Would that be considered? Would that be considered the workplace? I don't think so.

59:45PFT Commenter:I would say no. I don't think so. It's somebody else's workplace. I think it would be. If you don't have the same employer, I think it's hard to say that it's adjacent.

59:56Big Cat:And relationships with reporters and the people that they cover, I don't think that they're coworkers. They share the same space sometimes. It might be each person's workplace, but not a shared workplace.

1:00:09PFT Commenter:Like there's, you know, you share reporters and sources share space, like whether it be stadiums and the venue and sex hotels at Sedona, like they share, they share places. You guys really didn't answer that question, but that's okay. Hey guys, hey guys, hey guys, hey guys, let's just be serious for a moment. Cause this is like some serious shit. Okay. Okay. Does this, let's just say I'm HR and I look into this situation. does the disclosure hey guys um is it this isn't a laughing matter you're wearing a speedo right now and you don't understand they don't have the same employer does they kind of are they the nfl i believe under that umbrella okay okay hey guys answer this answer this does this does this alleged affair alleged affair hurt their companies that they individually work for.

1:01:06Yes, you can make that argument.

1:01:07PFT Commenter:I think it's fun, Jerry. I'm laughing because there's a lot of bad parts of this story, and you're very hung up on the HR part, which they don't have the same employer. It is an HR situation, Big Cat. It is a workplace relationship. There's a conflict of interest for sure. For sure, allegedly. But it's not two coworkers. Okay. Okay, okay, okay. Answer this. How does this, because this will make a little more sense maybe to all of you. Okay. Tell me how this would hurt their potential. How would this alleged affair hurt their employers? Bad. Yeah, no, I agree. It's embarrassing. Spell it out for me.

1:01:53PFT Commenter:Spell it out. For Diana, it's like her job as an NFL insider journalist, there's a lot of conflicts of interest. For Coach Rabel, same thing. Like, there's a lot of conflicts of interest if they're having a relationship like this and they didn't disclose it. So you're right. All right. Maybe we should ask Max this question. Max, how is this going to affect you? They also said they're not. Possibly next season. They did say they're not. They said they were just finger locked. Next season? Yeah. The one thing that I think that it will affect, I think Diana will be doing a lot less reporting of A.J.

1:02:28Brown to the Patriots going forward. Yes. That's the one thing that I think it will affect.

1:02:32Big Cat:Yes. I don't think she could do more, though. Correct, but I think it'll now turn to zero. Probably zero amount of AJ Brown to the Patriots. That's probably a fair assumption. Yeah, but Big Cat was making a good point. It's like, first of all, they work for two different companies. And if you're saying, like, what would the impact on her, if there was an alleged affair, what would that be? I guess you could make the argument it would affect subscriptions to the New York Times. If people are to the athletic, if people don't believe what she's saying, that would be like the business implication.

1:03:09Big Cat:If that's what you're looking for. No, I'm just looking for an HR person who works at a company. I'm very confused about what you're asking. This is what I'm asking. Is this an HR situation? Is this a workplace relationship? The athletic has also said that they like have her back. So I don't think that the athletic HR department is involved yet.

1:03:33PFT Commenter:Do you want us to make it an HR? Because we have an HR rep at Barstool. We could get her involved.

1:03:41I think this is – I can't imagine that HR is not involved in this situation. Now, listen. Here's another big thing. Here's another big thing. Whatever happens to who do you think with if this alleged situation is real? Who do you think is in more trouble?

1:04:07Big Cat:Probably Diana. Yeah, definitely.

1:04:10PFT Commenter:It's 100 percent. Because it's the NFL insider journalist part of it. That is very much in question. Now, I'm really sorry to get a little deep here. but we do have to bring gender into this because there's two different genders that are here. Okay.

1:04:31Don't you think that whatever happens to Diana, a reciprocal equal thing has to happen to coach Rabel? Yes. With this alleged affair.

1:04:46PFT Commenter:But can I ask, can I just ask a follow-up question before we get to that? Yeah. You said two different genders. Your wife and your two daughters, are they going to be upset that you said that? Okay, you're making a joke to a podcast I did with Bill Maher. I'm sorry I cheated on you. I'm never doing that. I already said I'm never doing a podcast again. Oh, gosh, it's so funny. People text me all the time. Will you do my podcast? And I just get to write back. I don't do podcasts anymore. By the way. You know what you should start doing? You should start having. You should send them to Zach. Zach can screen them for you.

1:05:19I am never I'm never doing a podcast again They now on the everything app Call me a F word cuck And that's like a really bad F word Guys I swear Let me just tell like the MAGA people I swear I don't Like to watch Zach fuck my wife That's not what I'm into okay I've never been into it You can stop calling me an F word cuck It's just not my thing okay My thing is part of my take yes answer your question i think which you again didn't answer i think it should be yeah i absolutely

1:05:54Big Cat:yeah i think if you're just talking in terms of like what would the right thing to do be i think equal punishment if if it's like a workplace violation like you think ideally people would be judged the same way in this alleged situation regardless of their gender ideally okay hey listen i don't think there should be any punishment i i believe live and let live and if people want to do this they have to deal with their stuff personally but what do you foresee as um if any of any um any reactions by their employers what do you what do you think is going to happen that's what i'm saying that the athletic they made a statement in that article saying that they they had her back so i don't know that the athletics going like unless there's something else that happens i don't know that they because i'm not a lawyer But if you take action against an employee and you're found to have done that prematurely without enough evidence, then you could get sued by that person.

1:06:55Big Cat:So the New York Times has a legal department that I'm sure is like way bigger than I could even imagine. So they're probably taking things super slowly. And same thing with it with the Patriots. I think that like if if there's like a punishment or whatever you want to call it, it would probably have to be if there was something else that happened that corroborated. is uh i mean max sort of touched on this like can diana cover the patriots ever again i don't know it would be tough it's gonna be tough for

1:07:29PFT Commenter:her going forward like just being honest like it's it's not none of this is good so and i think if you're at if you're asking like what exactly is next i think they're probably going to try to just keep going and uh hope the internet keeps moving and they'll have to deal with jokes

1:07:47Big Cat:forever and i mean hank i don't want to point any fingers at the patriots organization um but given what vrabel has told to bustin with the boys in the past if you guys had won the super bowl that's wouldn't even be a question true wow it's hank's fault yeah it's hank's fault well you know this is actually an interesting point and hank you've got to say something here because this really affects you okay and you've been a little quiet on this whole thing um that is a great point about winning the super bowl um let's just say the patriots have a tougher schedule than last season some people say they had an easy schedule last season i'm not one of those people but let's just say they go oh and two okay like hank what noise what noise is happening now after this situation.

1:08:39PFT Commenter:0-2 would be no noise. My real issue or concern as a Patriots fan is

1:08:50PFT Commenter:who hired a photographer to get these pictures? Okay, we're going to get to that. We're going to get to that. Because that's all. There is an op out there that took these pictures, painted them in a light where it looked as bad as it could possibly be, and blasted them to the world. He's being evasive, Jerry. Who cares that much and has that much, like, memes, memes talk. That's your only concern as a Patriots fan? Ooh. Let memes talk. The questions. I'm running this. No. Hey, no. Answer my question. What happens to the noise next season if the Patriots go 0-4? It gets louder. Does this become a distraction?

1:09:31PFT Commenter:Answer the question. No. This will be an afterthought by the time the season starts.

1:09:37Big Cat:You can't get Hank to admit it. I'm going to let you know you can keep pushing, but Hank's already dug in on the no answer. But, yeah, I think that Hank— This is a non-story. Vrabel said this is out-of-context characterization, and I agree. Hank always knows that he's got the they hate us because they ain't us button that he can press.

1:09:54PFT Commenter:My coach said that this is a bad representation of what the situation was, and that is my stance as well. Jerry, can I ask a question real quick of you? Yeah. what would you say is the impact? And could you maybe give us a little fantasy preview of the AFC East? What's the impact there? That's a reference for those who are maybe just like new listeners because you have Netflix and you're like, what is this show? Who's the shirtless guy in this pool? Is this Euphoria season three? I'm their fantasy expert, and every time I come on, I do a two-hour breakdown of the league. But we have more pressing things to talk about here.

1:10:38The fantasy always cracks me up. You know what, Hank? Let me ask you something, and let's see if Hank can answer this question. How does, because the Patriots seem to have a lot of these distractions, how does this compare to the Orchids of Asia situation? Well, that one was confirmed.

1:10:59PFT Commenter:that one was confirmed uh you know that was we never saw the tape well jerry we have a long

1:11:05Big Cat:standing policy on this show before we believe anything we got to see p and v i've always said that or h on p or h on p is fine but h and h until we hand in hand until we see that well h and h could be that could be just italian yeah and i'm actually surprised that max hasn't defended you're on netflix now you can say hand on penis you're on netflix there's no more we're not on youtube anymore.

1:11:27PFT Commenter:That's true. Yeah, it is true that Max, there's an easy out here. Well, I don't even know where Max lands on this, but that was just an Italian hello. The Italians, they're sensual people. Also, we won the Super Bowl that year, so this could be a start of the championship DVD situation. Do you think this picture makes the championship DVD? Yeah, maybe like a precursor.

1:11:52Big Cat:A start of the championship DVD-A? wow so hank you have nothing like what's your final answer with how does this compare to that situation it's like that was worse because it was in the playoffs that was more of a distraction

1:12:05PFT Commenter:because it was in the playoffs this is we're in we're in april by the time the season starts we're not even going to be talking about this so i you need to bring up something that's i'm going to bring up something that's kind of a bummer here um uh for those who aren't familiar your dogs are eating stuff off the lawn, Jerry.

1:12:23Big Cat:Just a heads up. Olivia Nuzzi was a reporter for Vanity Fair that got into a digital relationship with RFK. Do you mean digital as in fingers or as in online? So many fingers. So little time. No, an emotional, like, I think they were just texting each other. and she was let go I think it was more than that I think it was more than just texting each other Jerry

1:12:58PFT Commenter:was it was it physical the senator of South Carolina too

1:13:03Big Cat:yeah also the governor of South Carolina a couple guys she was involved with

1:13:08PFT Commenter:Jerry you're supposed to be her I know where Jerry's going

1:13:13Big Cat:it's like a breach of trust journalistic thing I think we can all agree that sports is not politics so it and there's going to be yeah so this situation is different because that deals with politics and this is sports so sports aren't serious i i think it's a little bit more serious if it's like the people that are running the country i i don't think that's crazy to say that okay um let's talk about who took these picks because i really do want to know who took these pics and i want to get to the bottom of it and i studied them a lot and the question is and i want everyone including max including memes to jump in here who benefits from these photos

1:13:57PFT Commenter:getting out the eagles maybe a someone a a up-and-coming nfl insider yeah wouldn't they have put their name Hank, Hank, wouldn't they have put their name to it already? No, because they're trying to take Diana off of her there's two, you're either going from the who wants to take down Rossini the Vrabel one, I don't like who wants to take down Vrabel as bad as it is I don't think it's going to affect his job the way it's going to affect Diana's job you know what I'm saying? that's fucked up, Hank Hank, that's fucked up I'm not saying you're fucked up I'm saying in society, that's fucked up. It is fucked up.

1:14:41It's definitely fucked up.

1:14:43PFT Commenter:It is fucked up. Why is that not fucked up, Hank? Yeah. Because Ravel's job is to coach football players. Yes, but.

1:14:49Big Cat:Correct.

1:14:50PFT Commenter:Diana's job is to get inside sources and like be an inside. Like that part is. But if what people are saying about Diana. If Ravel was one of his players, that would be in a similar, you know. That would be bad. If he's using the media to his advantage, that is fucked up. Yeah, the A.J. Brown. So the Eagles. Yes. There's a theory out there the Eagles could have maybe taken the pictures because the A.J. Brown trade rumors was, you know, A.J. Brown's trade. His value was getting deflated recently.

1:15:26PFT Commenter:He's thinking. Wait, are you talking to me? Yeah, we were trying to. Were you talking to Hank? We were trying to answer your question. Oh, sorry. teams teams coaches agents always leverage try and leverage reporters as best they can that's that's a tale as old as time yes but that's not okay let me just say right now let me let me just say right now because i've seen the i've seen the memes there and everything there is no way that someone at the eagles organization that is a very very very special guest would ever have done this i've seen those agreed doctored up means yeah there's just no way he's a paisan i'm not joking max agreed he ever take he would never take photos of another man with another man's wife it's something i know i don't know him personally but i can say without a doubt there is no way he had anything to do with those photos that's not how he would play period correct but Was it just Here's the thing at first I thought Oh it was just someone at the pool Who maybe was an Eagles fan who was like Holy fuck that's Raybo and Rossini In an alleged affair But by the way these things were Fucking set up there's photos from Inside the restaurant there's photos from Outside the pool there's photos when they're Walking away they I believe they realized they were being Photographed and they've left separately From the pool fully clothed And it's not like it's two and a half hours away from Phoenix.

1:17:04PFT Commenter:It's not like, oh, we just happened to walk by and see this. It feels like someone might have been tracking them.

1:17:13Big Cat:Yeah. And also, I think Hank's kind of right in the fact that if you look at all the pictures that they have, if somebody is watching and observing them for hours, and those are the worst pictures that get put out, it feels like they were trying to find something you know and i don't think they found exactly what they were looking for like no smoking gun uh you don't think they found a smoking gun i think

1:17:38PFT Commenter:they did i don't know if you're locking is that a smoking gun i think the private the private roof yeah yeah it was bad it was crazy um you know i i wonder if it could have been just

1:17:55Big Cat:someone because it is an exclusive hotel it's not i agree with that it's not it's not smoking gun it's a gun it's a gun someone is someone's got a gun we're not sure if it's been fired you would think that over the course of a few hours they would have found something that's like a little bit more salacious than the finger locking pretty pretty salacious pretty pretty

1:18:18PFT Commenter:salacious i agree jerry is it would the setting the rooftop beautiful rocks by the way gorgeous i mean by the way like pretty historically around although i guess it's bad it's bad pr for the hotel maybe it was like the hotel trying to like subliminally advertise like we're the affair hotel look at this look at these views we offer and they were they were staked out so crazy so crazy um you know i do have to say um oh god i'm gonna be a little a little rude guys and you should probably cut this part out i just have to do it go off the the i will say the bummer this week oh guys i'm gonna be a bit of a bummer was the reason we really tuned into part of my take is that you guys talked about the shit that none of the other mainstream media would talk about and on Wednesday's show

1:19:24we sounded pretty mainstream guys I'm so sorry to say that

1:19:27PFT Commenter:can I ask you a question about this because I've thought about it a lot and I do think Wednesday the immediacy like it happened at 6 p.m we recorded it at 9 p.m it's a story where we know both people um i agree with you like we should have joked about it more uh we have joked about it since but like if you saw two people you know personally in this story and then like were asked to comment immediately after it would be a little awkward like it was it was a little awkward for us well hand up yeah yeah i think uh i think because all the parties affect everyone in that part of my take room right except for the bears it doesn't affect the bears but no one gives a

1:20:17Big Cat:about the bears um no you're right it is what's what's funny about the story it's it's like it was designed in a lab to make everybody in this room have a very strong interest and reaction to it and i think what we did on the show was we we suppressed all the interesting reactions because we're so close to some of the people and it was immediate when it happened i i told big cat the next day i came in i was like i think our big mistake was we should have joked about it right up front and then like said our piece about why we won't dig too far into it right now yeah um we should have done we should have done soggy sorrows that's what we should have done it also start the show yeah that's it's a good thing that we can like remember for the future It's like in a weird, it's hilarious that this situation happened.

1:21:02Big Cat:Yeah. And our little podcast is so like the tentacles reach so far into this story, but it also at the same time makes it something that we felt very uncomfortable commenting on like right after it happened.

1:21:13PFT Commenter:And Jerry, I think you actually went through a similar reaction when you, uh, cause it took, it was a delayed reaction for you with the fingies. I, I read the story and I was like, oh, this isn't that bad. And then when I woke up, I was just like, what am I saying? Like this is their finger locking on a beautiful rooftop at a romantic hotel and hugging. And it's bad. You just have to admit it. It's a bad look.

1:21:41Big Cat:And I probably came off a little on the white knight side of things. But it is because like, I don't know, it's a weird position for me to be in. And I hope that it's not true. I really, really hope that it's not. Because I consider her a very close friend. and she's definitely going through it right now. So it made it, and it's all from her own doing. So it's not like I'm absolving her of anything, but it's just a weird situation where it's like, if you're real life friends with somebody, you don't want to shit on them to score internet points in front of the world. And so I felt like I needed to like, just give it a couple of days before I started.

1:22:14PFT Commenter:I know, I wish it had happened on a non-show day because I feel like our reaction would have been a little bit better. This I understand. And I hope that both of these parties know that we're not shitting on them. things happen we completely understand i really hope that nobody gets in trouble i mean obviously there's going to be some explaining to do but um i hope that nobody gets in trouble uh pft you can cut this out um have you been in communication with any of the parties uh yeah i just sent a

1:22:45Big Cat:text to her after it happened just checking in on her like as a person because i'm sure that she feels like everybody has abandoned her so i just want to be like hey hope you're okay yeah um we uh i'm not friends with her we follow each other on x whatever but um hey diana we love you um like we love you okay nobody's nobody's angry here um you too coach rabel you know i mean like we're human shit happens you know i mean it is a tough thing to ask human beings to not things happen everybody you know how have you worked yourself into a spot where you have to

1:23:34PFT Commenter:give a statement i think jerry jerry's put himself right in the middle of yourself in a play to in a terrible spot where you're giving some statement you don't have to say anything jerry well i try to empathize yeah no i agree this is a human element you know i mean like yeah try to empathize with people well um and i also think there's an element i was to say there's an element of you know jets fans eagles fans have had a axe to grind for a while so that they they they they feel a form of uh vindication that they want

1:24:04Big Cat:expressed on on the show and i think we have a big big representation in our audience of jets fans and eagles fans so they're like what the fuck why didn't you go after him and i get it i get it i get that as a sports fan yeah it just it i saw people pointing out too that like as the show grows we develop friendships in certain places and then that limits what we feel comfortable joking about we were going to joke about this eventually it just big cats right like the immediacy of it made it very tough but also i feel like we've been pretty transparent in the past about like we're not going to shit on josh allen yeah we have we we're open about our biases at least at time but but yeah i i do i understand from like a an eagles fans point of view this thing goes down and they're like oh yeah i can't wait to hear what the guys say about that and we probably fell very very short of what they were hoping to hear yeah you're uh mainstream whatever it happens to the best of us um jokes everybody um hank well let me ask you honestly um and and please try and answer this question.

1:25:06Let's answer one question today.

1:25:10PFT Commenter:Make it the Robat question, Jerry. Make it the Robat question. No, because I have a couple more questions. You can cut this up all you want. You don't play Jerry O 'Connell off. Okay. But I was saying, like, if you have to – Max is going to be up late tonight. But, Jerry, I'm saying Hank has to answer the Robat question. You can't not answer the Robat question. That's legally binding. So if you make it that – Okay, Hank.

1:25:35we've seen in the you know what I'll make this about golf we've seen in the past golfers who have been busted in infidelity situations and we've seen it negatively impact their game okay someone whose initials are Tiger Woods comes to mind will this alleged situation affect Coach Rabel's game I mean it probably will to some

1:26:08PFT Commenter:degree it happened yeah I would say it might

1:26:22Jerry

1:26:22PFT Commenter:sorry hello Hello, hello? His answer was it might.

1:26:28Big Cat:That's the end? I think that's as much as you're going to get from Hank. I was shocked that he said that. Yeah, I don't.

1:26:34PFT Commenter:The thing is, Jerry, again, Coach Rabel said that this is a misrepresentation of the situation. And until he says otherwise, that's what I'm going with. So based off of his answer, I would actually say no.

1:26:47Big Cat:So you just talked yourself out of it. But you already said it might. You had it might. Jerry talked his way out of it. You should have cut your losses, Jerry. I guess walk away while you're ahead. I got to tell you, we record this on something called the Riverside app, which is an app I have to download every time. Yeah. Because I'm sure it's like an app that's taking all my information. Sorry. And I won't turn it off, Max. I know how this goes. But I thought for sure it froze up. But I forgot. I'm talking to Hank, and he's going to freeze up on me. Okay. Yeah. Coming from you, Jerry. no uh pro pro no no no problem is he making fun of my stutter or my wi-fi both both i think it's a double it's a double punch um sorry i'm at home i gotta tell you also i don't heat my pool and i'm fucking free my nipples are never been so hard i am freezing i'm like shivering um yeah giving the netflix people a little something um memes memes tell us what's the one post that you wanted to just rip away but dave portnoy wouldn't wouldn't let you rip it uh i started photoshopping uh just like a bunch of memes with rabel's sweater on so like tiger woods tiger woods like tiger woods dan harley i had a bunch of other videos but they're just saved sad yeah you know the crazy thing about memes you got to do them at the moment or sort of over send them to me will you send them to me we have a we have a texting relationship um okay max because i know it i know you're max is going to figure out a way that this is going to fuck him over.

1:28:44How has this situation fucked you over, Max? This situation definitely hasn't fucked me over at all.

1:28:54PFT Commenter:Max, if anything, this is a positive for you. Listen, I don't think any of this is a positive. It's very different.

1:29:03Big Cat:Max is a family first.

1:29:06PFT Commenter:Can I speak for Max real quick? Can I defend my guy Max for a second and say one positive? do we believe that the two sodas was was real there was a lot of people that wanted me to

1:29:19Big Cat:comment on that yeah i mean you do have to it throws things into question it throws things in question of course i don't know i i still feel like uncomfortable talking about it because because we know diana and then there's you know we talked about it at the start the family and the kids professionally i'm speaking it's it's eagles fans are have a little bit of vindication and I agree with Eagles fans on that, but I still don't like joking too much about it because it's personal and I don't like joking about things that have so many family implications. Yeah, the kids. And I hope that all of that is under control and everyone is happy.

1:29:59I don't know. It's an awkward thing for me to joke about, but professionally, vindication for sure for the Eagles. I don't really care about the two sodas thing. Eagles for sure. Eagles for sure. So vindication. So you don't feel fucked over. You feel vindicated. Yeah, no. Nothing about it was definitely not fucked over. It's like a lot of Eagles fans were texting me being like, oh, this is why. This is why. This is why. And whether that's true or not, that's just the public perception right now. All right, guys. Listen, now that we've done all that, I wanted to get into something. I want to start with the AFC East.

1:30:44East over the Jaguars.

1:30:47Big Cat:Wrong division, Jerry.

1:30:51Okay. Hey, guys. I actually, this is a little Roback thing I have. Roback, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE. 20 % off. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, shorts. Roback.com. Promo code TAKE. Roback.com. Promo code TAKE. This is a poem. for Diana and Coach Rabel.

1:31:15PFT Commenter:Max took off his headphones. He's got his hands over his ears.

1:31:24Racini and Mike, Racini and Mike, Racini and Mike. You created the PMT story that has us all rocked. Racini and Mike, Racini and Mike, Racini and Mike. Wasn't sure much was happening until we saw them fingies interlocked. Rossini and Mike, Rossini and Mike, Rossini and Mike, yeah, this all does not look great. Seems you both made a big whoopsies, allegedly. Rossini and Mike, Rossini and Mike, Rossini and Mike, although in those photos, we got to see both your tootsies. Thank you. Rossini and Mike, Rossini and Mike, Rossini and Mike, yes, these are tough times for you both. Things are about to get a little rough.

1:32:04Rossini and Mike, Rossini and Mike, Rossini and Mike but we still don't have an Orchids of Asia vid where we would both get to watch you getting jerked off they destroyed that tape Rossini and Mike, Rossini and Mike, Rossini and Mike yeah, somebody snuck pics of you, some paparazzi some dirty rat, Rossini and Mike, Rossini and Mike and while the images were shocking still haven't heard much from PFT and Big Cat mainstream mainstream. What happened to Huey? Shut up. Rossini and Mike. Rossini and Mike. Rossini and Mike. Here on PMT, we encourage all to live their lives with no regrets. Rossini and Mike.

1:32:48Rossini and Mike. Rossini and Mike. Let's hope after all the dust settles, this means AJ is going to the Jets. All right, guys.

1:32:58PFT Commenter:Jerry, you're the best. Thank you, Jerry. You're the best. Our ombudsman. We love you. great job thank you for holding us accountable jerry guys hold on a second i gotta show you um i have a special this is a preview for max i'm so excited for your bachelor party hold on a second i'm sort of freezing because this pool is so cold i gotta show you this bathing suit but hold on one second just like my my pain i gotta get some blood flowing

1:33:26this water is freezing

1:33:28Big Cat:i swear to god my dick is bigger yeah we gotta okay make it an accurate representation we'll make it bigger on oh look at that tiffany gomas tiffany gomas tiffany gomas sedona sedona tootsies hanks tootsies okay here we go finger locking finger locking okay here we go i got some blood flow check this bathing suit out you ready oh my god that's my things i swear my dick is bigger i swear my dick is bigger oh my god for people who are listening

1:34:01PFT Commenter:it's a bikini it's a it's a it's a small bathing suit what do you call those like my the nut huggers what do you call those uh bungee smugglers yeah it's a banana hammock with max's face and of pigtails all over it. He got it custom made. Jerry, can you get one of those for all of us? Yeah, we need to bring those to Vegas. I ordered three. Should I get more? Yeah, get all of them. Get like 20. How many? You need to get 20? Yeah, we need 20. We're all going to have to get in them. Yeah, unfortunately, we're also going to have to start selling those on the Barstool store. Because I do have to tell you, my dick is bigger.

1:34:41This water, I don't heat my pool. I can't afford that. It's freezing. My dick is way bigger than that. Yeah. Like, for those on Netflix, my dick is bigger. Yeah. Well, remember, Jerry, all this was alleged.

1:34:55No, you saw my dick. It's just, it's very small because it's like an acorn right now.

1:35:01Big Cat:Your dick size right now is alleged. It's an alleged penis. It could have been a clit. Yeah. We're not sure.

1:35:07PFT Commenter:All right, Jerry, we love you. I love you. We love you, Jerry. See ya.

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1:37:01PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest in studio. radio recurrent guest we had a great time when you're on the show last year it is Boban in the flesh great to see you how you doing I appreciate uh I'm doing great because I'm here first time it was on zoom right now we are here and I love it I love it I love it more I love it more personal and you've been on a crazy I feel like I've seen you uh everywhere in the last week or so you were at the final four you were at the championship game you're in the student sections what was that experience like because you didn't go to you know had you been around any college basketball before look first time first time i was like i was like this year uh first time on the college game like i was one time before this but you know it's not really like this serious college college student section it's really cool like you know like you have all this all this like cheating they have like when uh when the guy get the ball everybody clapping they have on their own cheating their own place, what they call, their only names, sign, how they're cheering for their teams.

1:38:07And it's amazing. Amazing when you learn all this type of stuff because I changed a couple of students section and it's really tremendously amazing. I know a couple of people get offended because I changed too much, but the point, I want to discover what is the best one. That's everything point about that. And, of course, yesterday we was on the March Madness final game. What is, like, a first time ever see, like, 70 ,000 people watching one game, basketball game. Yeah. And it was, like, I couldn't believe that stadium, like, this big arena exists. Yeah. And, like, so many people come to watch that really big, important game.

1:38:48Big Cat:Yeah. Were you playing the triangle? I saw you in the Arizona band. Ooh, I killed it. Hey, look, that's my band. Like, you know, like, Arizona band have the best band. I know everybody have their own band, but this is my personally favorite because I was playing my first ever instrument in a band on a college game, and I have the best time of my life. You know, like I played triangle. I was not good. I was terrible. During the national anthem, we were supposed to stay there, and I was supposed to, like, you know, you hear the drums, da-da-da-da-da-da, and I want to put the spice with the triangle, but it didn't work well.

1:39:24because I see the guys laughing in a bed, but I saw the sign of the people like this.

1:39:34PFT Commenter:Did you curse Arizona? No. That was the worst game they played? Wait, was it at the Final Four? Oh, it was before. I was before. Okay. Well, you might have cursed them. Look at this. They lost a couple games before I go there. After that, I show up, and they play the best they can. They play the best basketball ever. Of course, one game is something you can change. If they play four games, I don't think they will lose like that. Let's go be honest. And they'll compete to beat them. Like if you play playoffs like in NBA. But one game changes everything. Like somebody has a bad day, a good day, sickness, stomach problem, headache.

1:40:13Look, there's no excuse. But I know because I play sports, I know how you can feel. How you can feel sometimes when you step on a court. a lot of publicity uh a lot of cameras a lot of media a lot of people talk oh uh people talk bad stuff good stuff you know somebody like somebody wants you to feel like special then then basically like go from your comfortable zone or do tiktoks live before the game that's not good but you know like you need to get focused for the game and uh and be and be the best you can be because this is one time happen, or maybe this year, maybe next year, do the same thing.

1:40:51But, you know, like for some people, like first time ever and maybe last time ever, they'll be like – they have the opportunity to take championships, to take the ring.

1:41:00PFT Commenter:Do you think you would have played college basketball if you were – like, you know, the timing didn't work out, but now you see like Illinois. I don't know if you had a chance to talk to any of the guys on the team. They had guys from, you know, Serbia. They had guys from Croatia. Yeah. And like, that's kind of the trend now. It's Arizona, same thing. They had guys from overseas where like guys from overseas are able to come and make money and play college basketball. It's pretty cool. Yeah, pretty cool. I agree with that. Like, you know, make all this money on the beginning of their life. You know, like, of course, what is your real price?

1:41:33Their price is real price. How much you can get in Europe is not even close. It's not even like, I think, 10 % of that what you can make in Europe, you make here. what is good for them. And I think you start, basically you start your career with some money in your pocket. There's not some money, it's starting your career rich. Yeah, with a lot of money. You come from nothing, but you like get rich for two years playing in college. And what is a good part, you study, you study your knowledge and you put your education on high level. Even they pay you fortune to like, you can put, you learn, you learn that all stuff to make a fortune.

1:42:11But basically, they pay you to you learn that stuff so you can make even more fortune right there's basically

1:42:17Big Cat:no rules now you could probably go back and play college basketball in america can i do it i may you might be able to no please check this where would you want to go to school i don't i don't know like you'd go to purdue you'd be yeah you'd be a purdue center no i'll i'll go in arizona

1:42:33PFT Commenter:okay yeah arizona's a better choice like you know if coach don't put me in a game i'll go with my I bend to play triangle because I think I'm practicing and I'm being better, better. Yeah. What did you think about Michigan especially with Mara? That guy, their rim denial was insane. And watching the game, how it just becomes such a big part of the game is that rim defense and having a guy who is your height or Mara's height standing there and being able to block all those shots. True. You know, like our presence by the height, it's not easy. second when you have when you have the skills to like to move and change the shots I remember I remember when I was when I was in San Antonio when Tim Duncan tell me Tim Duncan tell me he was like we're not here to block shots we're here to change shots yeah like it was not about that's the part when you play good defense it's not about it's not about how blocks you have it's about how how many times you change their shot when they're supposed to shoot over you because it's account the same they miss or block the same thing of course for your statistics it's not the same but contesting shots it's like same like almost like block shots sometimes they were so good like you know he make good job congratulations we continue move forward but him there have a present it's really not easy to even like that paint is a little bit smaller than regular paint what I figure out when I stay there and even like they make him more leverage they can like play the defense of course not just for defense I think for offense too Like, he have, I guess, Arizona, he have a tremendous game.

1:44:07Yeah. I was like, is this guy's real exist? Is this real happen? Of course, finals, everybody here get nervous. You know, like, everybody put their own efforts. But, you know, like, he really played good. He really played good. And I'm super happy for him and for his team because they won national championship.

1:44:27Big Cat:Yeah, he had a great Final Four. It's interesting you brought up your time in San Antonio. I feel like you were Wemby before Wemby. You were the first Wemby. Wemby came up in your footsteps. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I give credit to myself. No, Wemby, it's like something else. I can never see something like this in my life ever. And I like to watch because I play in Europe, and every time when I wake up, it's basically they play middle of night. Every time I wake up, I check in game, I check in highlights, what he do, how he play. Not just statistics, like how he scored the bucket. For me, this is like, this is what he can do.

1:45:05Like, that's like, I think nobody can do. Like, really nobody can do. That's really like, what? Wimby, Wimby, what can do? Nobody can do. Like, that's really that for him.

1:45:16Big Cat:I feel like you have a better perspective than just about anybody else in terms of like looking at Wimby and seeing what he's doing and how hard it is to do what he's already done at such a young age. So, like, what is it about his game that you're most impressed with? With everything. like with shooting with all movement how he like how he get low when he dripped the ball like nobody really like really steal the ball from him like that easy like how he put the ball on like up on air nobody can touch and he dunked it so easy like or what surprised me the most okay everything is else like you know like like top people can do but like he like dunked behind the back alley-oop like running in fast break and just turned the head and they pass him the assist and he like behind the back like dunking.

1:46:03That's crazy. Or between the legs. Like you know, never mind how I try to dunk between the legs. Like they're never gonna it's, I try a couple times but you know like, and I did a couple times but I feel like he's not that. Yeah. It looks different when he does it. When he do, he look like really like really good. Yeah. When I do, don't look good.

1:46:24PFT Commenter:Have you been able to watch like the other day it was yokich first wendy it was so fun to watch obviously you're rooting for yokich you're a friend of his did you see also the um have you met yokich's brothers of course how scary are they no they're not scary at all okay but you're a friend did you see the clip there was a clip where a guy a fan was yelling and yokich's brothers were in a suite and he he basically yokich's brothers like sit your ass down right now and the fan was like okay i'm sorry sir i i saw but you No, I think just like they just, he just protected, you know, like he was like just because of the reason of that.

1:47:00They're super nice. They're super cool. They're super friendly. They're really good people. They're all family. It's a really nice family. You know, like they just, maybe they're just like you can tell because you see two, three clips when they happen like that, but they're so protective.

1:47:13PFT Commenter:Yeah, I mean, he's on your side though. He's your friend. So that's. No, no, no. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, he's a good guy to have on your side. No, he's a good guy to know. Okay. Yeah, he is a good guy. Well said. When you met him, you will see why I said that. The both of them, all three of them, because like three brothers, all three of them, they're really good people. Of course, they're coming from a great family. And they just protected his brother. This is only maybe like, because in Serbia, we're used to on that. Are you yelling on somebody that was like, he's yelling on you, that's like normal?

1:47:47Yeah. I feel like just because of that and nothing else. I think they're really good people.

1:47:53PFT Commenter:Do you hang out with Jokic every summer when he goes back? Of course. We hang out with friends. Do you go to the horses? Yeah. Yeah, I saw he horses. Yeah. Yeah, but I never go to the race, but I saw the horses. Yeah. I want to go to the races. It seems like the best time ever.

1:48:09Big Cat:He likes the chariot races, right? The ones where you sit down. Yes, when you sit down and race. Behind the horse. That poor horse. When Jokic gets back down. I think he's just chilling and practicing, but he don't race. It's probably good for the horse if it practices pulling him. Then the jockey gets on. It's like super light. No, but he cannot through his career because of that. He's just cheering and supporting his horse, and of course, his jockey.

1:48:34PFT Commenter:So how have you not gone to the horse racing with him? You just don't have any? I didn't. I didn't. I didn't have time for that. You've got to go. I need to go. I need to go. This summer, I need to go. Yeah. It seems like the best time ever. Like, there's just once a summer, we'll just get a clip of Jokic in, like, a tank top, drinking a beer, watching races. It's just been like, this looks like. And enjoying his life. Yeah, enjoying the hell out of his life. I love when I see him, like, with a smile on his face, enjoying that. You really see him, like, he really enjoyed that moment.

1:49:02Big Cat:Do you think he enjoys playing basketball? Of course. Because there's been a lot of discussion about him because, you know, in the playoffs, the season drags on super long. I think a lot of NBA players, by the end of it, they're ready to go home. They're ready to call it a season and take a little break. But a lot of people look at Jokic and they say, oh, does he love playing basketball or does he just kind of tolerate it? He loves playing basketball. He really enjoys it. You can tell on the game. You can tell on the game he really enjoys playing basketball. All his shots, what he makes, all what he does, all these triple doubles, what he makes is not easy to make.

1:49:37Never mind how hard you want to deny that on his face, but he really enjoyed to play basketball. He's really good. In every sport, what he plays, we play video games. We play this. He always has a nice touch for everything and a nice momentum. He uses his brain to beat all games, video games, basketball games, soccer games, water polo. Everything that he touches, he wants to play. He's really good in that.

1:50:06Big Cat:So he's a water polo player too. He can play everything. Have you played water polo? Yes, I walk to the pool. No, I play. Because I heard it's like the hardest sport in the world to play. It's the hardest sport, but it's the hardest. But I guess we, I think, no, we think. We're the best in the world. Like Serbia, we have the best magical team in the world, yeah.

1:50:27PFT Commenter:That's pretty sick. Yeah.

1:50:28Big Cat:I feel like that's one sport that will make you very, very strong if you start playing at a young age, right? I believe. I guess. When you were growing up, were you allowed to play with kids your age, like in the youth basketball leagues? You know, I really want to know how, I really want to know if somebody have the clip about me, how I played basketball before, I really want to see it. But I don't know. And when I asked the friend, I talked about that, how I played basketball when I was a kid. He was like, hey, you was good. You was moving good. Your touch is good. I was like, okay. I was like, I know.

1:51:04Tell me the truth. Don't tell me the, don't tell me like fancy truth. He said, no, no, you was good. You was not moving like you're moving right now, but you was okay.

1:51:13PFT Commenter:Yeah. Was there a moment when you were growing up where you were like, oh, I am good at basketball. I am actually feeling confident that I'm getting better at basketball. You know, I feel like you never have that in your life. You know, like when you work out because you won't put your goals up like all the way to the sky. And you're always missing something. Oh, I'm not good in this. Oh, I'm not good in this. even like you start to be better in this practice on the summer and get better, better, like get your power, get your shot, get your movement, get your dribbling, get your footwork. You get better in everything.

1:51:49And you're on the end, you're not satisfied because you always, you always think can be better. And on the end of the game, you will have like really good game. You said, I should have one more assist. I should have two more rebounds. I should make that layup. You know, like we always, we always searching about that. Like how are we missing a little bit more? That's why the problem we have with competitive. Yeah. Comparatives with everything. You put your standards every time a little bit higher just to find something to fight for it.

1:52:18PFT Commenter:Yeah. So right now you're still playing. As a goal to get back in the NBA, you're playing in the Slovenian League, right? Yes. How is that? What is it like? It's very fun. We play Slovenian League and Abel League. it's like league when you play ex-Yugoslavia like you know Bosnia, Montenegro, Croatia some team from Romania they play one team from Dubai which by the way Yugoslavia I think we might have talked about this last time but if Yugoslavia didn't break up they would be the best country in the world in basketball like thinking about all the guys like the Jokic and Luka and like everyone combined True.

1:53:01And we were second. We were second in a world championship. We were second in an Olympic games. That's basically like I think this is it. This small missing tool we become first.

1:53:11PFT Commenter:Yeah. So the league is good. The goal is to get back to the NBA? How many more years do you think you're going to play? Until I feel good. The goal to become to NBA. I have nine years. I already talked 700 times about that. I have nine years. I need one more year. Year 10. You should do a whole thing about year 10 in the pros. I like that. Year 10 in the pros. I need to do that. He's raising his mic. Okay.

1:53:41Big Cat:We have a couple NBA GMs that listen to this podcast. So what are you working on now? We can try to sell you. Let's sell Vogel back to the league. Year 10. Let's go. Year 10. What are you working on right now? What's the next evolution of your game? Three-point shot. Yeah?

1:53:58PFT Commenter:Yeah. How many three-pointers if we gave you like an empty – I like how we're just going through this with Max just sitting there. Max's butt crack is out. We're not really helping Max out right now. I'm just messing with Max. No butt crack.

1:54:09Big Cat:No butt crack.

1:54:10PFT Commenter:If I gave you – Don't worry. They play you. If you were in an empty gym, like how many – and I gave you 100 threes, how many are you making? You know – how many threes? Yeah. 100. 100. You know who is Peja Stjarkovic? Yeah. Yeah. I'm right now like him. Yeah? Yeah. How are you making? Are you making 80? 80. With no defect. You didn't mean it. You just heard him say 80, so he said, yeah, 80. Okay, okay. Sorry, my fault. 85. Okay, yeah. That's more realistic. Good. I like that. I think 85 is realistic. Yeah. Yeah. I would say 88 because I'm born year 88, but you know, like 85. I would take 85.

1:54:49Big Cat:Okay. Let's get you back in the league. The league's more fun when Boban's running around out there. Yeah. I believe in that. Thank you very much. Yes. I'm sharing thoughts with you. We got to talk a little bit about soup last time. I know that you're a big soup. Okay. Huge soup fan, right? Are you a soup freak? Is that a fair way to put it? You can say. You're a freak? You're a freak of your soup? Hey, look at me. I'm a freak. Do you have like top three soups? Top three soups. I have top three soups. The chicken noodle soup, obviously. Mushroom soup. Okay, mushroom. And you always can add butternut squash soup.

1:55:26Big Cat:Butternut squash soup. Those are three pretty healthy soups. That's good. I try to be healthy. Yeah. Do they have any soups or stews in like the former Yugoslavia, any of those countries? Ooh, we're killing with the soups. What kind of soups? Everything. Like you name it. Same like what I said, but you know, like we have beef soup. We have chicken soup. We have like cabbage, but we use like a soup. We have bean soup. I don't know everything to translate, but we have a lot of stuff. Yeah. I love soup. It's the perfect meal. It's the perfect meal. You eat beginning, they fill you up, and after that, everything else, what you eat, it's like you can be smaller, like smaller enter, like smaller salad, smaller dessert.

1:56:13But dessert needs to be on the end of the meal.

1:56:16Big Cat:Have you ever tried to eat soup at the end of the meal? No, no, no. Always beginning. I do that sometimes. Try it. End of the meal? It's good. It fills in all the cracks from all the food that you ate. You finish it up with some soup. Yeah, it fills you up. Basically like chocolate or ice cream. They just fill out the gaps. You don't have to like it, but just try doing it one time. I will. It might change your perspective on things. Okay. I'm a super freak too. Okay, I'm on it. I'm on it.

1:56:42PFT Commenter:What about the Balkan breakfast? It took over TikTok. Is that a real thing? the guys with, I don't know if it's like just TikTok. It's really guys with just like meats and vegetables and like tomatoes, and they're just biting the tomato, then biting the bread, then biting the meat. Is that a Balkan breakfast? What do you traditionally have for a Balkan breakfast? It's not Balkan breakfast, but you know, you can eat. Basically, we use a lot of bread. We use a lot of bread. We use a lot of pie, cheese pie, cheese pie, meat pie, yogurt. We use the same like everybody in the world, like eggs, bacon, and all other stuff, like vegetables.

1:57:22But I think a lot of bread, a lot of yogurt, a lot of everything that you get. Basically, breakfast, we do bakery breakfast. Me personally, I go to bakery, buy something, buy some things what you have in bakery.

1:57:40PFT Commenter:Yeah, like a muffin or, yeah. Yeah, something like that. Or something like salt, like with the cheese, with the meat, with like pizza roll or something like that. And this is it. Like this is how I do my breakfast. But we do eggs. We do like ham, prosciutto, cheese, yogurt. So the Balkan breakfast might be a little bit – they might be doing a little bit of like a caricature because it is – it's like guys sitting out there and they like have full tomatoes or take a bite of the tomato. They take a bite of the – you know, they take a bite of a carrot and they take a bite of a salami stick and a bite of the bread.

1:58:13PFT Commenter:I don't know. We Depends on the person Somebody eat that Yeah but Somehow Somehow Some back of the day We do that too

1:58:22Big Cat:Yeah This bela korba Looks really good Is that Is that a Serbian dish What is bela korba B-E-L-A-C-O-R-B-A It says It's a Serbian dish Do you have a photo Right here Let's get to This looks like This looks like something I would eat Almost like a Lemon Chicken soup Soup Yeah yeah Okay chicken soup I guess. Yeah, like a lemon chicken soup. That looks awesome. A lemon chicken soup? Oh. I would house that. Oh, we got everything just falling off.

1:58:52PFT Commenter:Wait. How would you rate our studio and set up here? It's not the... You can lay down if you want. When you saw it, you were kind of like, oh, okay. I say I rate you like my apartment. When your wife's out of town, you said. Yeah, that's the part that hurt a little, but it's the truth. It's okay. You know, there's nothing, everything perfectly on perfect place, but everything is clean. Yeah. Everything is clean and it smells nice. Yeah. It smells nice. What is important? Yeah. Everything else, like when Wi-Fi get back from the city, you guys can back everything on place, which it should be.

1:59:29Big Cat:Yeah. Have you been watching a lot, besides Wimby, you've been watching a lot of other NBA getting ready for the playoffs? Yes. Yes and no. Depends which game, depends which team, depends where and what. Yes. But yes, let's go say yes. You have any feelings one way or the other about like, let's talk about like the Eastern Conference because I know that people are talking about Boston a lot and they got Tatum back, which is kind of crazy that it came back this fast. Who do you like out of the East? Who? Detroit maybe. Right now they play so good. They beat a lot of games. They come back on track when they were missing a long time ago.

2:00:12I know because I was there and they have good chemistry and they have Toby. They have Tobias and he's back in Detroit. They play good. I always watch their highlights because they always have good chemistry. That's how I feel. And they're good competitors.

2:00:33Big Cat:Yeah. And what about the West? Do you still root for the Rockets at all? Yeah. I'm always rooting for the teams when I've been there. Yeah. And I'm always cheering for the people who was my teammates and who is there when I was there and all people like all people, all fans there. Because I have so much fun there and basically this is a team. This team, what I left when I left, they left there. And they continue to build their legacy. Yeah.

2:01:02PFT Commenter:I forgot to ask this last time, I think, but you played, I assume you played some pickup basketball with Adam Sandler when you were filming. Yes. How is he as a basketball player? Everyone, all the clips I've seen, everyone talked like he can actually hoop. Is that he can actually hoop, but there's levels to this and playing against NBA players, we have to take it easy on him. Is he good? He's good. He's really good. He's good. Great passer, good shooter. passionate about basketball, know the game, know where he needs to be. Because it's not about how skilled you are. It's about because you play with more people than one.

2:01:40It's not like one-on-one. Basically, you need to be on the perfect place, perfect moment. And he knows because he's a good passer. He knows to find you. And of course, he knows to score. He knows to shoot. He basically has a nice touch and understanding about basketball. He's good. He's good. It's not about the clips when they're showing, yeah you know what highlights of the of the person but it's really he's good we should get you so we

2:02:03PFT Commenter:did this stream um it would be awesome if you could you could you could uh participate next year we did a pros versus joe's stream in the office so we had a bunch of guys who were like jason williams we had a bunch of guys who were really good in college okay play against us okay and the rule was it was five on five it went one on one two on two three on three four on four five on five once they finished the five on five okay we got to add a player but the pros didn't so it got all the way to 15 on five okay and the pros were still winning it went all the way down to 15 on two and then the pros finally lost because it was like that's the levels to it like people don't realize just how good you guys are at basketball and just how skilled everyone like Like even the last guy on the NBA bench is an incredible shooter.

2:02:57Yeah, of course. Or shooter or skill or like athletic, like dunk everything, whatever. Yeah. Everybody's so professional because we do that all our lives.

2:03:08PFT Commenter:Yeah. And you sometimes, you don't work. You don't work every day. You don't shooting every day on basketball skills. You don't practice two times a day. You know, that's a point. I think they make difference. But I watch that. I really want to participate next time. All right, you're in. You're in. I really want to participate next time. But the point I watched that, I watched that for the soccer. They have, I think, maybe like. Oh, yeah. In Japan, when there's a bunch of little kids. And they play against professional 11. I think 11 professional soccer players. And they really can beat them.

2:03:36And a bunch of kids.

2:03:37PFT Commenter:It was like 200 five-year-olds or something. There was a lot of kids. And they see they can beat them. No way they can score. The kids won. That's why I feel like when you have too much people, you cannot control everything. You protecting the rim, though, would be awesome. And nobody would get a rebound.

2:03:54Big Cat:You would get every single rebound. Yeah. True. That's the only thing. Yeah. We better not miss any shots. It was hard. Better not miss any shots. It was too many people to play offense. It got too jammed up in there. No spacing. No spacing whatsoever. You'd be like, showing the ball next to one meter or one meter. I was trying to coach the team. I was the coach. He was the coach? Nobody was listening. Nobody was listening. They were all chucking up. Because you have so much people. Yeah, too many people. They all want to make the game-winning shot, too. Yeah, everybody want to be MVP. Yep. Everybody want to become Jokic or Luka or Shea or Wenby.

2:04:27Big Cat:We need role players out here too. We need some Matthew Delvadovas out here. Yes, and you guys need Boban. You guys need, I don't know. You can bring anyone over, yeah. Yeah, you're 10. I mean, maybe you put together a little highlight reel of you dunking on all of us. Oh, for sure. That will send me out for sure. Yeah, we'll make a nice little edit for you. Yes. Get Boban back. We put the sound on, like boom. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we'll make a sick mixtape for you. When we were walking through the office a second ago, we showed you the putt-putt tournament that we have set up. Yeah, okay. Do you play golf?

2:04:59I don't play golf. I try one time, but the club is so small. I need to basically focus to hit that ball, and it didn't work well.

2:05:09Big Cat:It probably hurts your back, too, to have to lean that forward. I hit my shoulder, my hip, my everything. I miss that 100 times. I swing in air, and the ball is still there. They don't make big golf clubs? for guys like you? Maybe they make, but I don't know. They make it. Yeah. When was the last time that you met somebody and you were like, damn, you're tall? Venby? Yeah. Yeah, Venby. I was like, I remember when we played against them in Houston. I walked down the tunnel with him and I was like, okay. I don't know to watch him like this because I always watch down. I always watch down, but this time I was like, okay.

2:05:46It's got to be a new experience, yeah. It's a great experience.

2:05:48PFT Commenter:Yeah, it is crazy just seeing Wembe. I got to see him in person because I'm sure. You never met him in person? No, it's probably just insane. Yeah. I mean, he's just, and he's so good. He's so skilled. I don't know. If he could stay healthy, it feels like he's going to just terrorize the NBA for a really long time. Really amazing. Really amazing. Same like I saw Shaquille O 'Neal yesterday. He was like same. Come out from my elevator. I was like, oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. like strong, powerful, like tall. Yeah, have you talked to Luka recently? Yeah, I talked with Luka recently.

2:06:24Big Cat:Yeah, it's unfortunate that he's hurt right now, but he looked like he was in really good shape this year. He looked amazing, like 40, 50, 60, I don't know how many points more. And the Lakers played amazing. The Lakers played really good with him. And I know they lost the other night, but I didn't watch too much game. but I was like I was I was watch the score on the end yeah I felt like but I hope so he'll back soon and help them because they can have a nice run on playoff until about a week ago I was starting to think that the Lakers could do something and then Luka's out and Austin Reeves is out too right so it feels like maybe not this year but Luka I was really impressed with Luka this year they look really good like low focus like he always for me he always looked good I don't know.

2:07:16PFT Commenter:He looks a little fat every now and then. No. Just a little bit. Don't say fat. Just a tiny bit fat? No, no. A little tiny bit fat. No, he's just strong and powerful. Like, hey, trust me. You're a great friend. No, no, no. I'm honest. I spent time with him, and he's really strong. He's really strong and powerful. They're just people talk about that, but it's not really true. Yeah. I can confirm that because it's not true. He's really strong. Yeah. Like I give you an example. We was here. We was here. We have the. Like without warm up. We have some bar. Set up. Trap bar. Set up. Set up. Like with the speed.

2:07:54We have machine there. And we have like. We need to do a couple sets. Like of the speeding. Of speed. How fast can a trap bar go. Like from the dead position. To the highest position. When you can do it. And you have the numbers. When you can reach. You know like. Like maybe. I just made up right now. story we always like 1.2 1.1 1.1 1 like without heavy weight without warming up like without warming up he he hit the record i think 1.8 something that and like no one from us is not even close like with this from the speed trap bar power like it's that's that's insane yeah and you You cannot – like that's so powerful.

2:08:40Like his leg, his legs, his body, it's so powerful. And I never see something personal in my life. After I tried to reach the number, I don't even close. Yeah. Like I cannot get the double.

2:08:51PFT Commenter:No, that is – I mean that's a big part of his game is like his strength and being able to keep guys like at a distance and get his shot up is insane. But brain too. Like him and Jokic, he have the mental – like read the game and see everything. Like, you know, he know he need to tell you because you open on a court and he'll find you. Like, both of them. Like, both of them will find you every time when you open. Yeah. And you just need to, like, put your hands or, like, make good play. Run in the right time and the ball will be in your hands. Is that partially, like, European basketball and, like, how you guys are taught to play basketball with your kids?

2:09:34Okay. They have skill. they have skilled like nobody else but I think like they help a lot because from beginning from beginning we go fundamentals we go pass from the floor pass from the floor pass from the chest we go step side pass with right hand step left hand over pass and on the end when we shooting like you and me shooting it's not about it's not coaching passing the ball and you and me just shooting it's about like I passing ball to you you passing ball to me and I feel like you can get more feeling about like about like about where is the ball bounce like for rebounding and how you want your pass to be passed to you because like that pass need to be good because you want that pass back when you shoot the ball.

2:10:16And I feel like how you develop your game after that, like you will just pass the ball perfectly because you already adjust, you already pass 100 times a day to your teammate and he passes to you. That's why I can't develop

2:10:31PFT Commenter:element better like the passing skills yeah because the unselfishness too in like the european game you can you can notice it sometimes and i think it also helps it like when you get into the olympics and stuff a lot of the guys it feels like have been playing together on the olympic team for like many many years whereas team usa maybe it's you know guys know each other but they don't play together all the time true but they're so powerful like basically even they don't do that exercise they're still powerful so they can to they can win so they can win easy like olympic games or world championships who's the who's the best player that you've ever played against or with uh like just like day to day where you're just like that i just don't know how they're that good like i i cannot i cannot even like the player who is not famous like or you guys doesn't know him he's still hard to play like he's not about he's not about like the name you you say one name and say, wow, I never defend nobody like this.

2:11:29Oh, give us a legend in the Balkans who's maybe not even in the NBA.

2:11:34PFT Commenter:Never been in the NBA, but you're like, this guy's really, really good. No, no. I'll not give a name from no one. But, you know, I remember, to be honest, I cannot remember the name. But one time we played the third Serbian league. Okay. And one guy coming, he had a normal job. like normal job working job like you know he just play for that team because like you know on this on the on the weekend he want to work out he he come uh you know street street basketball game like end one but like for big guys yeah like uh he's he was he's so skilled if i feel like if he practice he he can be like really like good basketball player so he was just a regular guy who didn't play professionally who just like on the weekends be like oh yeah i'll play in the serbian in third league.

2:12:24Yes, he's a little bit taller. He's a little bit taller. He's a little bit chubby, but skilled and smart and nice touch. Like Escalade. Do you remember Escalade? Yeah, I remember Escalade. But this guy is a little bit tinier and taller. That's awesome.

2:12:36Big Cat:You watched the N1 mixtape when you were growing up? Of course. I think everybody watched it. Yeah. You were like, that's what America's like? No, no, no. But I think everybody watched that. Yeah, yeah. Everybody tried that fake, like, you know, hit the ball, like go there between the legs, like long shorts to the end, like bigger t-shirt. you put the ball you kick the ball the ball spinning around it was like it was like so so much i think everybody watched it yes yeah it was worldwide the professor when the professor joined and he just didn't get off the tour yeah it was amazing yeah do you have a do you have a i

2:13:07PFT Commenter:i was looking at your instagram before do you have a farm at home or is that it's it's my village it's a farm you know like back back over the day when my my grandfather and grandmother have it that's awesome of course back over the day we just i try to i try to help my parents and everybody asked me, why don't you buy your dad a new tractor? We have a new tractor, but he don't use it. Really? No, he always uses the same tractor. That tractor is old, but he always uses the same tractor. And I don't know how and why, but the new tractor is staying there, but the old tractor is working around and he loves to use all this.

2:13:41What do you guys grow? We grow everything. Basically only for personal stuff. Yeah, yeah. For your farm. Yeah. It's not for selling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't do for selling. We just do for basically our community, basically our family.

2:13:59PFT Commenter:Okay. So for the record, Boban has bought his dad a new tractor. He just doesn't use it. No, I just said because I read the other comments. Like, hey, buy your dad or buy your father a new tractor. I was like, okay, thank you, guys. I'll buy a new tractor. Yeah. Whatever. Don't bother me at all. I just said it. Just said it for no reason.

2:14:16Big Cat:Yeah, dads have their own tractors that they like. They don't want to have to learn how to use a new one. They'll fix this one if it breaks down. The same tractor, the similar tractor, just new one. But the problem because if you want, you have a machine who is attached for that type of tractor. If you want to change a bigger tractor, you need to change all machines when they're competitive with that tractor. That's why you keep that size of tractor. Got it. Do you guys grow, do you raise animals for meat? uh yes but uh before it was much more right now it's a little bit less yeah was that ever hard like as a kid you have to raise an animal and then you have to you have to eat it later they were hard it's all everything hard it's nothing easy yeah same i don't know i don't know

2:15:04PFT Commenter:i don't know i can say more about that yeah um all right well boban this has been awesome we we really appreciate you coming by i have the roback question rhoback.com promo code take 20 % off your first purchase Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts Roback.com promo code TAKE last time you were on it was before Happy Gilmore 2 which great job in that movie do we have other movies on the horizon Boban the movie star

2:15:34right now we keep that one we was doing recently Robin Hood and it was a TV show I was a 9 and 10 episode I was like I'm like a bad guy with not talking guy but you know like guy tried to kill little John and of course of course Robin Hood but you know like the point I have so much time so much fun time because we filmed that in Serbia and it's MGM production and Lionsgate I said right? yeah and this is like really good stuff to work on it of course happy gilmore happy gilmore is something else because like it's like different you know like i run naked i was like do this i was there i was there uh but you know and all this all this celebrity what it was that movies but this is like this like something else like this like i'm fighting i'm like bad guy riding the horse first time riding the horse in my life and uh and it was like it was the it was the great experience i remember when i when we filming that I was on a horse and of course one more actor he's from he's from London I was on a horse and the horse every time they hear action they start they start like sprinting and I didn't expect that because before that I never ride a horse but we hear like I have only two classes right and I'm on a horse I hear hammer in one hand and a horse like horse in other hand like and I'm on a horse and they say action the horse start to running I was like hit him with the legs stop stop I was scared they said oh let's go one more time Boban don't do that scary face I was like okay and then they say

2:17:23PFT Commenter:action again the horse just goes takes off again they take off but it was good I'm like now used to I think he'll just start to walk because when you hit him a little bit with the foot and like show him to go they always like he start to walk but you know that's why I didn't expect he was Arturano. Yeah. All right. So more movies. More movies in year 10.

2:17:44Big Cat:And back in the NBA. I think I figured it out. I think you might be getting blackballed from the NBA because the owners are mad that you gave away free chicken. Oh. That is what happened. You probably took money out of their pocket. And they're like, we can't sign Boban. He's just going to give the people chicken. It was like, I don't know. Sorry for that. No, no. Don't apologize for that.

2:18:02PFT Commenter:That was the nicest thing you ever did. Yeah, yeah. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Yeah. All right. Well, it's great having you here in the office. And we really appreciate you stopping by. I appreciate it, guys. Thank you for everything. It's amazing. Thanks, man. Great time.

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2:20:06PFT Commenter:Okay, Fire Fest of the week Hank? Nothing crazy It was a good week Fun week, mini golf, Masters There's nothing better than mini golf week for you Yeah, I mean I went back to yoga for the first time in like 8 months What flavor did you hit? Almost died Dasani? It's embarrassing. No, what's the... No, Dasani's water. What's the... Chobani? Chobani.

2:20:34Big Cat:I'm a Fea guy.

2:20:35PFT Commenter:But it's always going to be hard the first time back. Do you do granola in it? I do, yeah. Yogurt, granola, blackberries. Honey. You ever do honey? Honey, yeah. I don't like the honey. It overpowers it. A little syrup. A little maple syrup. I feel like that overpowers it. I just like the crunch and a little yogurt. Have some yogurt today. Yeah, you were just telling that story. You got back to yogurt. Back on the yogurt. Don't repeat yourself. back on the yogurt off the bread off the snacks in this office you should start exercising more yeah what about the pimento cheese because the boys the yeah i haven't had any pimento cheese i don't know memes i i feel like he might kill me because he keeps offering it and i have not had it so yet memes colton and um and shane have i would say have gone through like six pounds of pimento cheese this week every time i walk by there's just a new tub of pimento cheese to the point where i have pimento cheese i ordered lunch today and i saw that pimento cheese was on the menu and i just ordered it for the boys because i was like well and i'm sure they probably didn't need it it was like bringing sand to a beach the pimento cheese corner is getting a little out of

2:21:37Big Cat:control we just decided it's pimento week because of the masters okay fair okay i'm down with it it's delicious we're just making sure you guys get some pimento with you yeah can we get some You're a good teammate. What do you think it is about Hank that makes him not want to eat your cheese? Well, he's dieting. But I mean, so am I. But it's just polite to stop by and say, thanks, memes. Yeah, you think a guy who likes golf also likes pimento. Yeah.

2:22:04PFT Commenter:I'm going to have some, but just haven't yet. I'm worried. Like, I might just wake up with cheese getting stuffed down my throat. Yeah, you better eat the pimento. That's a real danger. Who just had a bad shot? I would never hit a putt on this course, ever.

2:22:18Big Cat:so I did see a guy he four putted from like three feet that you're talking about spider last night Lowry yeah maybe three putted from three feet but I saw that I was like maybe the haters are not actually hated maybe they're just realistic and I'm delusional they got it yeah they could they could but 150 okay PFT your fire fest my fire fest I think I told some of you guys this yesterday but I went to the doctor finally to look at my back because my back and my calves and hamstring have been really fucked up for the last like year or so off and on with the back especially they gave me an x-ray and um i'm a freak i'm a genetic freak oh i already knew that yeah no i'm a freak uh my i only have four vertebrae most people have five vertebrae four verts four vert there you go max let's go we're back um you love to talk shit even though i just dominate like i dominate you yeah you do that

2:23:20PFT Commenter:would be so funny if it was just a if they did a mri it was just a picture of kevin patulo yeah

2:23:26Big Cat:get the dog in me um so i i got i got four verts instead of five verts my fifth vertebrae is uh It's fused. It's completely fused to my tailbone. So it's there, but it's not like a separate vertebrae. So that means that all the other discs that I have are getting pushed at weird angles and shit and getting herniated. So I was actually happy to find out that there's a reason why my back is feeling fucked up. And it's not just in my head. And that's why the nerve thing's going. That's why I continually have been tearing muscles in my calves for the last eight months.

2:24:02PFT Commenter:Got it.

2:24:02Big Cat:So it's good to know that there's an issue. now we got to solve it yeah um so i'm actually feeling pretty good about that but it was funny because when he showed it to me on the x-ray initially i was like is this guy after the whole stedham thing is he going to tell me that i have a tail oh wouldn't that be something yeah uh no but i just got i'm running four verts yeah i think it's like five percent

2:24:21PFT Commenter:of uh people have that you're you're free few the proud yeah five percenter few the proud for verse all right so i also have a doctor uh story because uh i went to the dermatologist

2:24:35Big Cat:today have you guys ever been to a dermatologist yeah i first time ever thought it was a chick

2:24:41PFT Commenter:doctor um like not the doctor's a woman i meant like only women go to dermatologists you're correct yeah uh and listen shout out my wife i think she she likes me enough that she wants me to like live for a long time because she made this doctor's appointment i didn't even know i literally like wednesday morning i woke up and i was just looking at my ahead of my calendar i just see dermatology appointment and i said my wife i was like what is this and she's like yeah i it like takes forever to get and see this doctor i made this like six months ago you have to go skin cancer screening so i went yeah so they basically i had no idea what was going on i go in i show up they it's a doctor and then it's a person taking notes and they just look at your entire body and like mark everything that like you know moles whatever so that in a year i'm gonna have to go back and make sure that nothing has gotten bigger whatever fine right she opened up my butt crack whoa yeah didn't think that was coming hey check the uh the credit card slip it was a double butt crack open she opened up the top and then she went down and opened up a little lower and I was just like I had no idea that was going to happen I didn't know that that's what they do she didn't knock no it was a way was great professional incredible job no no great doctor yeah she just like they just they flip you over I had my boxers on she all in one motion was going down my back look at all the stuff pull down my pants like pants to me boop boop and i was just like before i even knew what was happening my butt crack was just open to a woman at 8 30 in the morning and uh very uncomfortable and then when i flipped back on my back she was like you you got anything in the penis there was like there's literally nothing going on there and so we skipped that thank god because i did not need her looking for moles in uh my dick and balls and i also would have just been so embarrassed with the size

2:26:47Big Cat:you could have just like gone home and been upset with your wife but like she looked at my butt

2:26:52PFT Commenter:crap yeah and it's your fault yeah she i'm probably gonna have to explain this like look

2:26:57Big Cat:we weren't in sedona but there were fingers and butts this sounded like uh it's more of an urban meyer thing but yeah it does feel like this is a situation where the impractical jokers might

2:27:07PFT Commenter:have been next door yeah all right now go now now swipe up so you guys uh go to go to the dermatologist guys go to the doctor also she did give me one recommendation that i basically laughed in her face she was like uh you know you're at the age that you should maybe start wearing a sun shirt and i was just like no no absolutely not like you can't as an adult man you can't wear a sun unless you're a ginger understand that unless you're a ginger and you if you wear a sun shirt you just look like a toddler you look like a toddler at the pool you can't be doing that

2:27:39Big Cat:What if he got tattoos that you're not super comfortable with showing off with strangers, hypothetically? Yeah, then maybe sunshirt. Maybe a sunshirt, too.

2:27:48PFT Commenter:Yeah, I feel like sunshirts, toddlers, gingers. 50 plus. Well, I was going to say deep sea fishing. If you're wearing a deep sea fishing, that's cool. Because you're just like, I mean, you're a man. You're holding a big fish. You got a sunshirt on. Who cares?

2:28:04Big Cat:I'd say even construction workers. Yes. People that work outside. People who work outside totally understand.

2:28:09PFT Commenter:But if you're just a regular guy at the pool and you got the sun shirt on, people are going to be like, what's going on here?

2:28:15Big Cat:It's an effective tool to make people not realize that you're overweight. True. I never know.

2:28:21PFT Commenter:But then everyone knows you're overweight because you're wearing the sun shirt. Yeah. And also sneaky. Actually, sometimes a worse look because it sticks to your body. And then your fat and your breasts kind of pop. it's better to just go into the pool hope the pool's a little cold so you can look like you're you know do a little flex far better before we do Zach memes and memes and Max you guys have fire fest memes you have a fire fest just thought I'd ask I this is like a great week I have two oh you have two I have two one I got a little too angry at mini golf yesterday.

2:29:05Big Cat:No. I don't think so.

2:29:07PFT Commenter:No. I got a little too angry at mini golf yesterday.

2:29:09Big Cat:Wait, are you talking about when you threw the putter or when you punched a hole in the body over there? Or you charged at me. I didn't charge.

2:29:15PFT Commenter:You charged at me a little bit. If anything, I charge a PFT.

2:29:17Big Cat:Yeah, you did. Well, sometimes animals, like you'll see an elephant or a rhino, they do the false charge. Yeah. Which is they take a couple steps just to buck at you. That's what you did. That's what Max did. We were on different sides of the basketball court. And to be fair, I was trying to help Max out. I literally went up to him because he was feeling low and feeling blue and i went up with my hands to do the chin up thing that you see like the basketball player helping his buddy out like i want to see you carry yourself with dignity and don't be too bad i think sometimes your own worst enemy is you and you get too too down on yourself and i was like max chin up and then um he almost killed me well on the anchor for tonight and this is going to come out after the fact so i'm sure all the it'll it'll end swimmingly it'll be great yeah that's what anchors usually help you do yeah be great

2:30:01PFT Commenter:yep got it got it you're max you listen you're a passionate italian yep we all expect it so it's not like I actually watched it back last night and it's very funny because you you did a good job of removing yourself from the situation and calming yourself down but then you came back to the scene of the crime and when you started screaming meltdown I had a meltdown. You had a meltdown while having a meltdown. It was so fucking perfect. Accusing another man of a meltdown while having a meltdown was very funny.

2:30:38Big Cat:Max, can you just walk us through the 18th hole? Because I had a front row view for it. No. The answer to that question is no, I cannot do that.

2:30:48PFT Commenter:Okay. Okay. Do you think it's a little funny in retrospect screaming, you're the one who had a meltdown while having a meltdown? Well, you're just the worst. I actually was the worst at that moment. You were the worst. Going back and showing how easy the hole was was a dickhead move.

2:31:05Big Cat:Max, is it unfair for me to be like, hey, you should lighten up a little bit? It's literally a mini golf competition? Well, you went to touch me. Yeah. That's a no-touch zone.

2:31:17PFT Commenter:Also, it's not just a mini golf competition. It's life or death. and I just and I for some reason I've gone last every single round yeah I've been I've been I've been all eyes on me every single round so far luckily Hank just went nuclear yesterday we didn't even have to worry about in the second round but whatever what's your uh what's your if you don't make it you die number for golf yeah for mini golf I can't even like begin to no I don't I can't do that math right now no like I I don't know what like a par you gotta get to the 13th hole tonight smash play yeah the gator hole is is a problem there's a lot of problem gator hole is like there's a lot of problems sand hole is a problem pizza hole pizza hole is a problem yeah there's there's problem holes uh my my other one was that

2:32:07Big Cat:i got caught in the bathtub this week okay no all right go on uh so we had we had some great interviews this week shane bacon we we recorded at 10 30 on monday and then bo bomb was 10 o 'clock in person on tuesday for some reason when i woke up tuesday morning i had 10 30 in my head from yesterday from monday so uh i was like all right yeah i have to be at the office at like whatever 10 15 i'll i'll be fine um and then i got a like a google calendar alert i was looking at my phone while in the bathtub at 9. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

2:32:48PFT Commenter:Time out. Yeah. You're taking Tuesday morning baths? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. What? I'd love to start my day with a bath.

2:32:58Big Cat:But wait, not just Tuesday morning baths, but Tuesday morning baths where I know you didn't understand what time the interview was going to be, but it was still going to cut you short within like 30 minutes. You were going to have to rush out of the tub. I had an alarm set at 10 o 'clock It takes me 5 minutes To get to work This is an unheard of That got the exact same reaction From the boys

2:33:22PFT Commenter:A bath is supposed to be A luxurious End of day Decompression Not a I'm just waking up on a Tuesday Morning with a busy week Let me take 30 minutes out of my day And hop in the bath Well, that's what I needed that Tuesday morning. That's crazy, dude.

2:33:42Big Cat:I don't think my body would know what to do if it took a bath before noon.

2:33:46PFT Commenter:If you take a bath before noon, you better have the flu. I can confidently say I have never done this in my life. I don't know what to tell you guys. On a weekday morning. I don't know what to tell you. That's what I was doing at the time. Did you get bubbles? Were you bubbles? Oh, yeah. Are you kidding? Is there a jacuzzi tub? No, no. This is very standard. half of my belly is outside when I'm laying down in this tub.

2:34:10Big Cat:Did you have like breakfast in the tub? Or coffee? No breakfast, no coffee. Did you have something to read? No, I had Just your phone. The iPad up, watching Netflix, chilling, had my phone. It's a good way to start my day. It's like, alright, take a deep breath, now go about the rest of my day. It's crazy. It's definitely a crazy move, but I kind of want to try it. It's nice. But regardless, well, this one wasn't nice because I got the alert 10 minutes before, like interview starts 10 minutes. I jumped out of the tub. I don't even think I dried myself, put clothes on. Came in wet? I got probably pretty wet.

2:34:50I almost left without unclogging. What do you call it? Undraining. Yeah, draining. Undraining is stupid by me. Draining the tub. and I somehow did get here by like 10.01 and Boban walked into the studio at like 10.03. So it did work out, but I was 10 minutes from tub to studio on the dot.

2:35:17PFT Commenter:That's incredible. I mean, I actually feel violated. I feel violated knowing that I was talking to you 10 minutes post-tub. That's not enough buffer between the two. 10 minutes post-tub. Yeah, that's not enough buffer. I got to my car within five minutes and then it was a five-minute drive. If this ever happens again, you need to alert me. Because I can't. We can't be conversing 10 minutes post. I told memes this. Then he was like, you have to tell that story on the show.

2:35:43Big Cat:Max, how many times a week would you say that you take a bath? Three or four. That's a ton of baths. That's a lot. I don't know what to tell you. I really like. Is there any rhyme or reason to it? Are they all on weekdays? Mostly weekdays. That's crazy. I mix up whether it's morning or night, but it's...

2:36:04PFT Commenter:You're an adult man and your body's pruned three or four times a week. Yeah, I love it. That's crazy. I absolutely love it. It's my favorite place to be. We've got to get you an upgraded bat. No, that's what I was going to say. I'm looking to move and a deal breaker for me is a nice tub. A big jacuzzi tub. Yeah. A big, nice tub. Yeah. All right, Zach.

2:36:26Big Cat:I also feel like I had a pretty good week this week. My Firefest would have to be... We did do preliminary rounds for the mini golf to try to get into the tournament on stream the other day, later in the evening. I thought it was going to be pretty cut and dry. Like, hey, you perform well in golf. Maybe you get in. And then somehow I just ended up in an Illuminati humiliation ritual out of nowhere. They brought out the handcuffs. They brought out a blindfold. Dante was wrapping around me by the hips, guiding me through a course. I thought Max had my back. Max somehow lines me up on this big blue penis on the course.

2:37:00It looked like it was just sodomizing me. It was tough. It was bad. It was bad luck.

2:37:03PFT Commenter:Do you feel a little bit like the SpongeBob meme watching all your friends play golf this week?

2:37:07Big Cat:Oh, it looks like so much fun. It does. It looked like competition in golf and you get to get to, oh man, it does look fun. It's not always fun. Yeah, Max doesn't have a lot of fun. Yesterday afternoon was fun. Second round was fun. Shout out Hank. But when it's not fun, it's intense.

2:37:24PFT Commenter:And that intensity is still like, we can win this. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. Sunday night with our guy, Scott Van Pelt. Let's have a great Masters weekend. Get your big Texas. Decided, Hank, are you playing golf this weekend? Yeah. You got to. Got to. Before the Masters? Not right now. I'm playing Saturday. Okay. Potentially Sunday. Probably not, though. Yeah, you got to get around it. All right.

2:37:50Big Cat:You think the courses are more or less full during the Masters?

2:37:54PFT Commenter:I feel like it's like.

2:37:55Big Cat:You see it on TV and it waking something up.

2:37:57PFT Commenter:Everyone's trying to. Gives are just really going to be really nice. But also, everyone's trying to get their rounds in before the Masters starts. Before it starts, yeah. So, yeah, it's got to be packed on Masters.

2:38:07Big Cat:And you can also just watch the Masters on your phone. True. Yeah, good point, memes.

2:38:11PFT Commenter:Good point, memes. Yeah. All right, numbers. 71. 31.

2:38:17Big Cat:Oh, thank God. 66. 23. 32. 24. 4. 18. Freddy, couple's minus 2 right now. Nice. Let's go, Freddy.

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2:38:38PFT Commenter:Anyone? Let's go one more 62 Number 23 56 71

2:38:47Big Cat:Same numbers Same numbers Same numbers Hmm Hmm

2:39:02PFT Commenter:74 Anyone? Close Who was close? Me Who'd you have? 71 No

2:39:09Big Cat:Shit No Shit Max is bummed out

2:39:17Big Cat:Happy birthday to John Madden Steven Seagal And Haley Joel Osment The big three Love you guys Happy birthday Colton's brother Oh Colton's brother happy birthday No one else Am I missing one Brandon Walker Today's Brandon Walker's birthday No I'm just kidding Love you guys

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