Matthew And Brady Tkachuk, Taylor Twellman Talking World Cup, USMNT Sucks At Soccer Again + Mt Rushmore of Aquatic Animals

13:58PFT Commenter:We should just have them play baseball. Maybe that's what we should do instead of the conversation being like, how do we get our best athletes to play more soccer? Why isn't Pulisic a fucking wide receiver? He would be sick over the middle. He's got a little wiggle. What? He would be a good wide receiver. If we had. Like, let's do the opposite. Instead of being like, hey, we got to get our best football players to play soccer. No, no. Let's just get all the guys that are good at soccer to play like mid-level football, make college football a little bit better.

14:26Big Cat:If we want to get our best athletes playing soccer, we're not. Hugo Gonzalez is going to play soccer.

14:32PFT Commenter:Listen, we don't. It's not athleticism either. Like, that's the thing is everyone's like, oh, it's athletic. No, we just suck at soccer. These guys are not. like all these other guys are just monsters outside of a few like they're not beating us with athleticism. They're beating us with skill. We just suck as skill guys. We'll never close a skill gap. USA will never close a skill gap compared to the rest of the world in soccer. Right. Yeah. So it is what it is. What about the coaching though? You threw a lot of blame around. You didn't say anything about the coach. That's what I'm saying. The coach I don't even understand.

15:02Big Cat:I think the coach deserves, yeah, if you come out looking like that in the most important game in, I'm going to say Most important game in U.S. soccer history, the fact that it was a home World Cup game.

15:11PFT Commenter:That's never been said before, Hank. He just used this one time to say that.

15:15Big Cat:Yeah. Weren't we in the final four in 2002? No, we were in the quarterfinals. Quarterfinals. Quarters, baby. Yeah. The fact that this was on a home field and that it had so much hype going into it, you have to put some of that on the coach. Absolutely, yeah. If you look like you sleptwalked through the entire first half, yeah, that is 100 % on the coach.

15:36PFT Commenter:He also didn't get further than any other coach, and he had what I've been told is the golden generation. So, like, that to me is like, yeah, why would he be a good coach? Like, he didn't do anything different. He didn't beat anyone.

15:49Big Cat:He did do different things with the team. If you want to talk about the style of play. I don't care about the style. And I said going into the tournament that, yes, it's going to be on the coach because you do have players that should be, you know, the best that we've ever had. And Pulisic just doesn't care. That's what sucks is like a guy like that can't be the face of U.S. soccer. He does not care. He's like looking forward to getting his break. He's never really been completely bought in on playing in all the tournaments. Like he doesn't really give a shit. We need a dog out there. He's not a dog.

16:22Big Cat:I think this guy, Kevin Sullivan from Philadelphia, might be a dog. He tries to fuck people up. We're doing this again. Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready. But no, that guy. The same was Philadelphia. Got me back in. Pulisic can't. A guy like that cannot be the face of your team. Like, because you draw off that, and it seemed like he didn't care. He checked out of two games, and he did the same in the World Cup in 2022. He just doesn't seem like he loves playing for the U.S. national team. And that's okay, but he shouldn't be playing for the U.S. national team.

16:50PFT Commenter:Hank, I want to hear from you in a second, but I also should say, like, Belgium should be embarrassed for themselves for the crying they did with the Balogun thing. They were so much better than us. They could have beaten us with 10 guys. They should never have said a word. They should have been like, all right, cool. You guys are going to get government interference to get him to play the game. We don't care. We'll still beat your ass. I would have respected that more. So, Belgium, listen, you won the game fair and square. They were mocking Trump in the locker room. That's all fair. You've got to be able to do it.

17:22PFT Commenter:We talk a lot of shit. They talk shit back. But the fact that they were ever scared of this team is nuts.

17:28Big Cat:That is nuts. And also, it probably gave them some bulletin board material. It seems like everything's stacked against him going into the game. And they're like, fine, fuck it. We ball.

17:39PFT Commenter:Hank, how are you feeling? I mean, I feel sad. That was the first game that I really sat down and watched every second of, and it was over from the second it started. We had 60 seconds of joy. I had, yeah, literally 61 seconds. Like, in real time, the game was back. I've had a lot of time in the airport. I had a lot of time thinking about the past few weeks, and I have been watching. I know I said I don't like soccer. I feel like I said this in the beginning that the group stage is who cares, but once the elimination games come, it's electric. It's been very fun to watch. It's been very fun to follow the last two weeks.

18:16Last week, we were at the beach. I was watching in the bar. All different people from all different cultures rooting for different teams. A lot of fun. I was excited about the U.S. PFT. I was drinking the Kool-Aid. Again, spent a lot of time in the airport. I was kind of bored. I was like, all right, let's lock in. took pft's bet on draft kings was like usa usa usa and within 10 minutes the game was so clearly

18:37Big Cat:over it was terrible yeah that's that's what happened and that's always gonna happen yeah that's what i'm saying like that's the we suck at soccer and i think it's fine for people to like get excited about it like i was excited about it like people in the like people every single bar in the airport in the denver airport was like filled with people like excited to watch the game I think like 95 % of people have completely forgotten that game happened like by tomorrow. And they're like, all right, we suck at soccer. Life goes on. Yeah, I'm on to Summer League. No, yeah. You somehow woke up and they're like, oh, I can't believe.

19:08You're still like really upset.

19:10PFT Commenter:PFT was in his – he was looking for anything last night.

19:13Big Cat:Yeah, I was hunting dopamine last night after the game was over because I was so, so upset and so pissed. It was more that I was angry about this. So we started just roaming the streets of Tahoe. I was looking for any dope. We got some ice cream. I was walking by a store and Colton was like, would that make you happy if you went and rented that three-wheel spider car? I was like, absolutely it would. I tried to rent a three-wheeler. They said that they don't do it there. I had to go to like a different store. Then I went to the casino and gambled for about six hours last night, which did actually replace the dopamine for a period of time.

19:48Big Cat:So I was pretty happy about that. But no, I'm pissed off. I can't sugarcoat it. I'm really, really fucking upset at how bad and how little we cared. And we can talk about, like, a lot of people are doing the hand-wringing over the youth programs and being like, what should we do differently? It's pointless. We do that every four years. There's time for that. When you lose in the playoffs, if you're a football team, you lose in the playoffs, you talk about the guys that fucking sucked on the field. You don't talk about your scouting department. What, Max? This isn't football. Like, you care about football.

20:23yeah right this is soccer we don't care about soccer no i'm saying

20:30Big Cat:you completely missed the the point of what i was saying okay did you see the hypothetical

20:35PFT Commenter:that steven jay threw out there that's like would you rather have your team win a super bowl or the u.s win a world cup i think i'd rather have my team win a week seven game that's not true maybe maybe but maybe it was the packers yeah if it was the Cowboys it would be electric if we won the World Cup the Super Bowl vs. World Cup is not even Super Bowl if we had won two more games I would have taken back every single thing I said and been like this team is legit and we're a soccer power but it wasn't we didn't even qualify for the World Cup we were gifted an entry to the World Cup because we were hosting the party it's like alright yeah you're having the party You can come to your own party.

21:19And then they gave us a cupcake group stage, and it was also an expanded field. Like everyone got out of the group stage.

21:27PFT Commenter:That's my – I mean, we already did the who's most upset off. PFT won that easily. I like rooting for the U.S. men's national team. It was fun. The way we lost to a team like Belgium, who's not even like one of the top four teams in the world, it's just the levels to it. Like you just see that and you're like, okay, cool. We're so far away. You can't. We're basically a team. We're basically like an 11 seed that won a play-in game. And then they played. And then they played. Maybe they won even the second round game. Then they played like an actual like top 10 team. Got beat by 20. And you're like, all right, cool.

22:05PFT Commenter:We were never even close to a Final Four. Like that was never in the realm of possibilities.

22:10Big Cat:It is crazy though because Portugal lost. Messi is losing right now as we speak. 2-1 to Egypt, which is crazy. So weird stuff happens in soccer. This was not a weird stuff happens game. This was a vastly, vastly superior, more prepared opponent than we were. That's it. It was just.

22:28PFT Commenter:What were you going to say, Max?

22:29Big Cat:We suck.

22:30PFT Commenter:The goalie thing was weird. We suck. That had to have been. That can't be normal in soccer. We suck at soccer. Like any professional level.

22:38Big Cat:So here's the thing, Max. It's like sometimes with goalies, they become goalies because they're not really that good in the field and they don't really practice that much using their feet. We've got two guys that kind of fit that description. And, yeah. Why was he out there? Sometimes you've got to come out and – But he was so far out. You can come out – a lot of goalies do come out that far and fuck with the ball. But, I mean, it was a simple play and you can't fuck that up.

23:06PFT Commenter:Do you think – are you – what are your thoughts about Hank in general?

23:10Big Cat:I need some more dopamine. I mean, what?

23:15PFT Commenter:That was an all-time Hank face. Yeah, Messi just scored. We're going to talk about it after this, but yeah. What does this have to do with me?

23:23Big Cat:All right, here are my thoughts on Hank. Because I was, and to Hank's credit, he hasn't really done this yet. He's probably thought about it. But I thought we were going to see Hank wheeling in the straw man that he's been building for the last three weeks to be like, I was told that we were going to win the World Cup, which is not something that I've ever said. so I'm pleasantly surprised with Hank so good job, fair play to Hank You haven't said that Yeah, I know, I thought that you would say I was told that we were good enough to win the World Cup I've known this, I've been well aware of where the US is

23:57PFT Commenter:Hashtag Hank was right The whole time, I've just been laughing but this has been a thing for like three years My issue, again, the World Cup is fun I have enjoyed the World Cup I know I said that in the beginning, I don't care about soccer World Cup, entertaining. Good summer entertainment. The knockout games are electric. Star players, all that stuff. We're not even part of the World Cup in my mind. But the prom is going to be in, like, somehow it's going to happen in, like, three months. Like, I don't know how it's going to happen. It's going to, like, be, like, way too quickly. We're going to be in, like, a concaf, like, sectional against, like, Jamaica.

24:31And PFT's going to be like, oh, my God, we won 4-1. Like, we're back. That's when it gets annoying. And then it doesn't, like, it just keeps coming up where it's like. I'll tell you. It does not matter. Every time you talk about soccer for the next three years, it doesn't matter. I won't. I won't talk about soccer for the next three years. There's a chance now that we're not hosting the World Cup. We don't even qualify for the next one. They've expanded the field.

24:51PFT Commenter:If we don't qualify, then they should just never play soccer again in this country.

24:55Big Cat:We've only missed qualifying for the World Cup one time since, what, 1990? So it's not like we have a hard time qualifying. Usually we did fuck up bad in 2018. I don't really talk about soccer unless it's the US and the World Cup so the only way I'll tell you how they're going to get me back Hank might be right you talk about like the Copa America I bring up once every like nine months on the show and Hank's like oh why are we talking about this again I'll tell you how they'll get me back they're probably going to hire Pep as the head coach of the national team and if they do that I'll get back in Won't matter.

25:34Big Cat:I'll get back in. What? Who's Pat? Pat is one of the best coaches of all time. And he's said in the past things that would make you think maybe he wouldn't hate coaching. His best friend is Joe Mazzulla. Yeah.

25:45PFT Commenter:Yeah?

25:46Big Cat:Yeah, yeah. That would get Hank back. That would get Hank back. He's Joe Mazzulla's favorite coach. What's his accolades? He coached Holland. EPL. Champions League. But even if we have the best coach of all time, we'll never have the guys. Correct. That's my point.

26:01PFT Commenter:That was what I was saying. Like, it's okay to just, again, it's okay to be, like, excited about the World Cup, excited to watch U.S. Men's National Team. I'm in that camp. I was so pumped to watch that game last night. But it's like, hey, we're just never going to be on par with the best countries in the world because it's never going to be our number one sport. It will never be important enough. And it's a reality. It's so much further ingrained in those cultures and countries. They're like, well, the skill gap's too far. We'll never keep up. Yeah, that's about it. We're cooked. I will say, this isn't even political, but I'm not a parent.

26:35But I don't understand. Hockey is an expensive sport. And they always talk about how travel soccer is pricing on people. How is travel soccer expensive?

26:44Big Cat:Yeah, I mean, it's stupid because it should be the stupid sport. The people that set up the youth leagues. Like travel hockey, travel baseball, eh, kind of a little more expensive. Like the equipment and all that shit. Yeah. The people that set up the youth leagues around America did it in a way to make themselves money. When it first started being talked about as like the sport of the future, quote unquote, back in the 80s. And the people that set it up, they set up the leagues to benefit them. So you have to pay if you want a good coach and not like somebody's dad that has read a book about coaching soccer.

27:14Big Cat:You have to pay that guy a lot of money. The field rentals cost a lot of money. The referees, they try to like swag the kids out with cool equipment and bags and shit to make it feel like you're not completely wasting your money. But that system is completely broken. It sucks. And I thought Poach, he talked about it a couple weeks ago. He was like, the reason why we don't have the most skilled players in the world is because all these kids grow up with a soccer ball at their feet from the time that they can walk. And everything about keep away from your brothers or sisters or your dad tries to get the ball and you just dribble it away from them.

27:51Big Cat:You've got all those tiny little muscle memories built up because you've been playing soccer since you were two years old. And unless we get every kid in America to do that, which we won't, then there's going to be a skill gap there. It's not necessarily about having our best athletes playing soccer, although that would help. It's just about just having that deep background for each individual player. Again, I think a winner could have gone a long way towards the future of soccer, but no kid was watching that game. Oh, yeah, no, that would have been a huge. If they had even come, if they had lost in shootouts, let alone, if they won that game, it's like the hype.

28:26That's what I'm saying. It would have been a pendulum that swung, but it swung the wrong way.

28:29PFT Commenter:If we had lost in penalties, I would have actually been disappointed. The way we lost, how could you even be disappointed? We're so far away. Some of the best players on the team didn't even grow up in America. Yeah. That's what we need. We need more of that. All these teams. That's how the whole world is. We need more of that.

28:46Big Cat:But it's like, how is that even? We do need more foreigners to play.

28:49PFT Commenter:Yeah, we need all foreigners to play.

28:50Big Cat:Yeah, we should actually have as few Americans as possible on our American soccer team.

28:54PFT Commenter:Pep's won three Champions League, six EPLs. Pretty good. He's his best friend. And he's won three Champions League with two different teams.

29:03Big Cat:And he helped the Celtics win the NBA championship a couple years ago. So, yeah, he's – but again, Zach, it feels like you're with me.

29:13PFT Commenter:Like, Pep – It won't matter. It won't matter. He can only do so much. Unless Pep can just find a bunch of players that aren't American to be American. Even the coach this year, like, he goes against the AC Milan job. He's a great coach. And it's a golden age of who we have. These are the best players for this U.S. team that will ever, up until this time, is our best shot. It doesn't matter because it's so ingrained through generations. Like say if Hank has a kid, he loves soccer. Hank's not going to be able to teach his kid about the game. He will not. But if he did, it's just like the gap is too big.

29:47It'll never be closed, unfortunately.

29:50Big Cat:But again, I'm not saying that Pep is going to make a difference. So I'm saying that's the move that they could pull that could bring me back and get me excited again so that I will have my heart broken again. What are the thoughts on maybe just getting all the way behind rooting for country and not the actual gameplay? Because you know the gameplay probably will end in heartbreak. That's me. I'm rooting for country.

30:11PFT Commenter:And it's the name on the front of the jersey knowing that we're probably going to be in the exact same spot in four years. Sweet 16, look like shit. The party of the World Cup is fun. Correct. That all the bars get super packed and everyone, it's everyone on the same side. Talking shit. I don't take back any of the shit I talk about. No. It's fun to talk shit. It's so fun. When you're just piecing up Bosnia and you're piecing up all these little puppies.

30:37Big Cat:And Herzegovina. Yeah.

30:38PFT Commenter:Yeah. You're just fucking them up. Paraguay, get out of here. It's fun.

30:42Big Cat:See, that's what got me back was seeing how we played because we've never played like that before. And so I was fully bought in. And Hank was right. It's not going to happen.

30:53PFT Commenter:Can we actually play? Like, is there a way that we could just play an independent schedule? Like, BYU kind of does this. Whereas, like, if you just play teams that you can beat and then you go to the playoff or you go step up in competition, one time a year you get killed. But let's just, like, stack a schedule where we just win all the time. I think what you're saying is, like. The smallest countries and we just fuck them up. And then maybe once a year we have to play.

31:20Big Cat:That's the problem. That would actually be worse for us. Belgium is small. become Notre Dame. Dave Hardy would have smoked us. Become Notre Dame. And we have our traditional game against Mexico every two years. And then we just schedule the worst countries from around the world. We're Americans.

31:35PFT Commenter:We like winning. And that's the worst part about this is that we're competing in a sport that we're never going to win at. So it's like, I kind of don't, I will take my ball and go home.

31:43Big Cat:We got it. We got a home and home against Nepal in the next three years. Yeah. And then every time World Cup qualifying comes around, we just tell FIFA, like, look at these, look at the numbers that we put up in the last three years. We lost two games, and we won 12. Most of them were against Kyrgyzstan. So we should be in the World Cup by our resume that we've put together.

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33:46PFT Commenter:Ends July 19th. Terms at dkng.co slash audio. Okay, Henry, hot seat, cool throne. My hot seat is my Mount Rushmore partner, the guy sitting next on my right. Oh, no. Zach. Zach, by the way, before whatever Hank is about to say, your eyes have been insane today. I appreciate that, big guy. Thank you. That's so kind. I think maybe they're just matching Lake Tahoe's blue, but oh, my God. And he's doing contacts. And he's doing contacts. Oh, they're popping.

34:23Big Cat:Thank you. You're not doing PEDs, are you? There's no blue contact lens? No, just standard from the eye doctor. Okay. We were active today on the golf course, so I didn't want to raise the glasses falling off. Yeah, yeah. It's almost like icy blue. Put them in sport mode with the contacts.

34:37PFT Commenter:So now that we've given you this compliment, Hank, go ahead. uh kai sanat went live last night uh and they announced all there was this list is long all the people that got accepted into streamer university i don't know uh people like chaz delicious cool butterfly suki mellow cooley t shoddy dean blandino uh cute guns king 68 the Great. So Pink.

35:05Big Cat:Yeah. And Reg Too Funny. Zachy Blue Eyes. No, Zach, on this list that I saw.

35:12PFT Commenter:Now, Zach. Those are all great streamers, by the way. Zach, you know what the first question's going to be? Mando Millions. You're familiar with him? Not entirely, no. That might be a different demo. I'm not tuning into Mando. Do you know where this is about to go for you, Zach? You know what the first question's going to be? Do you want to address the first question before I even ask it? I don't think he knows the first question. You know what the first question is going to be, Zach. Did you actually apply? Yes, 100%. Application in. Swear. Sent in. Swear all the way, yeah. Do you have confirmation that we can share?

35:43I did. I had a confirmation photo. I remember sharing it to Max. I can find it in my camera.

35:47Big Cat:Because you had about 40 minutes left to submit a video the other night. I had to finish it. I had to finish the video. Okay. I can find it. Did you finish the video on time? Yeah, I got it in. I have a screenshot. That was, where did we go? So you and Jill and Brown both got rejected. Application received. Yeah, 100%. I've seen it right now. I definitely put it in. What fee was there to apply to StreamerU? I didn't have a fee to apply. Okay. There's like some rumors floating around online that like you had to pay$3 ,000 to apply, but that just wasn't the case. So you, why didn't you get accepted?

36:21A lot of great people applied. I didn't get accepted.

36:26Big Cat:They should do like a, they should do an exit interview with you. Like, I want to know why you didn't get in. That would be nice if they said, hey, if you're looking to get in next year, here's the things you could improve on. They let Raw Dog Moon in. Oh, Raw Dog Moon. Raw Dog Moon's awesome. I will say it's a big university. I've never gotten into a big university before, more of like a community college guy. Yeah, do they have streamer community college? I would just guess. Big universities are easier to get into than smaller universities. I didn't get any big universities. No, that's on the whole.

36:54PFT Commenter:It's probably true. That's like ACT, SAT stuff, though. You know what I mean? Yeah. Do you think there's a chance we need to get your dad into streaming so that way you become a legacy streamer? I think what needs to happen is like, you know how you get your GPA up and then you transfer? I just need to work now on getting my streaming GPA up so that I can transfer at different times. Take care of all your gen eds right now. You need to go to like Dr. Disrespect's Community College. No, I know. I know what I said. I know what I said. I just think head down, stream more. I don't know about Dr. Jusbeth.

37:30Big Cat:Myers Leonard. Myers Leonard, you. We just got to head down and work, boys. Didn't get accepted. Shout out to everybody who did, though. It's going to be a super great learning experience.

37:41PFT Commenter:No, not shout out. Fuck him. Fuck Raw Dog, Moon. Fuck straight to bank. Wait, say that one again? Straight the number two TH bank. That guy rocks. Straight to the bank. He lives on the bench. That guy's richer than all.

37:56Big Cat:Yeah, that guy. That guy's got his paper right. Fucking Josh got in. That's an aggressive name. Fucking Josh, man. Shout out fucking Josh. The U is a V, but. Zach, I think that maybe you need to stream more. I think that that's probably a good start is to get those streaming numbers up. That way, when you apply, they look at your resume and say, okay, he's not actively trying to start streaming. Because I'm sure they don't want to let people in that say, I want to start streaming. They want people that have shown that they want to do it on their own, that are dedicated to it, that they know will come in and then take the education that they get, which I'm sure is extremely valuable, and put that into practice.

38:31Big Cat:That's what I was saying. Head down. You've got to stream more. Zach, would you? We're lockstep with that, Pete. You're 100 % correct. You couldn't be more correct.

38:37PFT Commenter:Would you like me to tell you the truth or say nothing? Do you have those options? Always the truth. Yeah, for sure. You don't want me to just say nothing? I would. Truth or nothing? I'll take the truth. I'm insanely disappointed in you.

38:56PFT Commenter:She said he wanted the truth Alright I understand that Zach No I had to throw in insanely

39:06Big Cat:I'm not I'm not insanely I'm just pretty disappointed in you I take that I take what you're seeing and I receive that We're not mad

39:17PFT Commenter:We're just disappointed To a level that you've never Experienced in your life Insanity I'm proud of you for trying No we didn't try hard enough Because we didn't get in If we tried hard enough we would have got in Obviously I didn't put enough work into it To even be considered and that's on me I'm disappointed in how hard you tried I might be more disappointed in you than the time When your dad had to fire you from The car shop That was family stuff though Well no that was business The firing was business It leaked over a little but not too much

39:50Big Cat:Zach so what I like to do when I have a problem that I'm trying to solve is I try to figure out how to divide it into small steps. Bite-sized pieces, and you make a plan, and you set goals. So, if we're going to try to stream more, what's a goal that we could set? I just got to get in the lab on not only a regimen base, but also not just going into it to go into it. You got to come in with a plan. You got to come in with an objective base. Yeah, that's what I'm asking. Thank you, memes. What do you... I'm trying to think what makes sense here. How many hours a week? Let's talk about that What do you think hours wise

40:24PFT Commenter:Are you saying what makes sense What makes sense for me to not be insanely disappointed in you 15 times a week

40:30Big Cat:I'm trying to think hours wise I actually don't care how many hours you stream As long as you get into streamer university I can't believe that our son Didn't even get into college We're not going to pay your rent anymore You got to get a job You got to go get a job Get a job or go to college Those are your choices This was tough the first time This is tougher the second time How many hours a week

40:55Big Cat:How many hours a week Can we dedicate to streaming Zach I could I don't hear the word I don't hear the word could I want to hear rejection I want to hear the words will Not could

41:12I'm not the best at time management Does 18 to 20 make sense Sure It sounds like you're afraid of streaming 18 to 20 cents I want to have a real conversation That was too strong That's a lot Mack's better at time management than me

41:30Big Cat:Are you scared of streaming? No definitely not I'm not scared of my Well I'm sensing some fear No fear What is the source of the reluctance? No reluctance We're not in a good spot but we can work to get into a better spot Okay, how about 18 to 20 sounds ambitious? That was strong. How about six? Six sounds good. Okay, I can rip six. I can definitely rip six. Ten. Let's say ten. Even ten? Let's say even ten. Ten hours a week? Yeah, definitely. But that includes, like... I can rip ten. You also stream from your house. That's what I'm saying. I wanted to make sure that got... You can stream from your house, too.

42:11Gotcha, yeah. We need you getting reps. Yeah, certainly. And, like, we're going to help you out, but, like, if someone else can't do it, solo shit. Still run the ball, yeah. Yeah, solo stream. I think you've got to have a schedule. Yes. Regiment is good. Schedule. Routine is good. I will say schedule is hard with our schedule. Like, we can't put in.

42:31PFT Commenter:Put that on a quote card. Schedule is hard with our schedule. That's facts. Like, Zach's streaming schedule is hard. We got the Patriots last year. To make a consistent streaming schedule for Zach, it is hard to do that with also the part of my take schedule. Yeah, but there's also Monday, Wednesday, and Fridays are not heavy days. But then sometimes we have an interview. We would say like, okay, every Monday, Wednesday after the yak. But then we have an interview and then you can't do it that. Zach, can I give you truth or silence again? Another option. I think I take the truth. I don't give a fuck about this bullshit streaming school.

43:06PFT Commenter:I just want you to stream. I actually don't care that you didn't get in. Fuck them. You know what we're going to do? We're going to start our own streaming school.

43:15PFT Commenter:No, I don't want to get in. They rejected my boy. I reject them. Zach's streaming school for kids that can't stream good. Starting next year. I understand how my current stream... Yeah, we could pick up... We'll get the leftovers. We'll get the mutants. We'll have some seven-year-olds, some old people, some weirdos that don't even know how to turn on the camera. This is the idea, and we'll charge them all. I can see how my current streaming resume is rejectable. Zach, we've got to build that portfolio. It's like anything in life. The thing is, you got to build that book.

43:49Big Cat:You got to figure out a schedule. Yes. Stick to the schedule. And really, this is just us saying we think you'd be good at streaming. We encourage you to do it more. More. In fact, we are. I'm close to issuing my first command. I command you to stream more. Yeah, I can do that. Ten hours a week. A ten piece. That's a command. Yeah, ten piece.

44:09PFT Commenter:Also, do that. The the I comment stands. They look hot. I did appreciate the comment or a compliment separate I'm making a sandwich of compliments on your eyes different chapter it's okay for this book to have a compliment and also maximum disappointment that's okay we learned from both

44:27Big Cat:they call it a shit sandwich yeah alright Hank good hot seat great hot seat Hank my cool throwing is Novak Djokovic yeah yeah he's back won a 5 hour and 15 minute match at Wimbledon still going I think he's on to the quarterfinals maybe semifinals

44:43PFT Commenter:let's go insane insane run for a 39 year old

44:54Big Cat:okay good job hank good job hank my first well my hot seat is actually who's back of the week because i i fucked up who's back of the week on monday ovi is back ovi's coming back to the capitals and he might be back for two years so i said i i didn't talk about ovi at all He said he's coming back. His wife said he might come back and play two more years now. So Ovi's just going to have a lifetime contract. He can go out on the ice as long as he wants. It's going to stink if he has to play meaningful playoff minutes because it was not pretty in the playoffs the last time we were in it.

45:30PFT Commenter:Ovi plays hockey, to answer your question. No, I have a more serious question for PFD.

45:35Big Cat:Oh, no. Do you think your Wizards time has cut into your Capitals time? because I feel like if that was a wizard's news, that was wizard's news, I would not have gotten forgotten. That's valid. I took my eye off the puck. Yes, yes, it has. And that's the thing. It's like my brain can only process so many sports at once, and now that I've let the wizards into my life, it is pushing other things out. That's 100 % true. Like earlier this morning, I accidentally stole a car. And that probably has a lot to do with the fact that I'm paying it. You should save that for Fyre Fest. That's a good – get more into that story.

46:11Big Cat:It probably has something to do with the fact that I am paying more attention to the Washington Wizards. So any mistake that I make, it's like, yeah, well, my brain is operating at 80 % capacity because I've got Wizard stuff floating around in there now. But Ovi's back. That's very cool. I love watching him play hockey. I also kept the car on and walked away. We can get into this later. We can get into this later. That will be FireFest on Friday. Tune in. Tune in for BFD's FireFest. CTE Commenter. uh also uh well my cool throne is sean payton's imagination yeah god damn does this guy have an imagination uh there's a seth wickersham article that came out it talks about it was a year that he spent with sean payton and sean had this idea he never he never brought it to the brass at the broncos but he was considering it he wanted to cuck himself coach cuck and hire bill belichick to be the head coach of the Broncos until he got 15 wins and got the all-time wins record from Don Shula.

47:13Big Cat:And then Sean Payton would have demoted himself to being offensive coordinator to help Belichick get up to 15 wins. And then he would have retaken over. He should have had the Holiday Inn chair on the sidelines, up in the booth, coaching from the cut chair. It's crazy that this was an actual plan or a thought that he had. this is one of the more harebrained schemes of all time, but God damn, I wish it happened. I'm so upset about it. I got mad when Kyle Shanahan came out and said that if the Niners had made the Super Bowl that one year where the Eagles kind of asterisk beat them in the NFC Championship game, that he was going to have Phil Rivers come out of retirement for one week and play in the Super Bowl.

47:54Big Cat:I'm pissed off that I know that because now I'm just like, God damn it, I wish that it happened. And that's what I'm thinking about the Belichick Broncos situation. Yep.

48:04PFT Commenter:Yep. Also would have been funny if Belichick then fired Sean Payton.

48:08Big Cat:As head coach. Yeah. I mean, you would have had the right. You're going to make him head coach. Yeah. You would have had the right. He's going to be. Hank, what would you have felt about that? I would have loved that. I mean, that's a bro move. Yeah. If I've ever heard one. And Belichick deserves to be the all-time win leader. So that. What do you mean deserves?

48:23PFT Commenter:Well, this is a participation trophy. What are you talking about? Deserves. He just deserves it.

48:27Big Cat:Oh. deserves it for everything that he's done for the game of football. But I mean, Don Shula did a lot for the game of football, too.

48:33PFT Commenter:Also, wouldn't the most deserving one be the one who did it? Hey, there's still time. I believe he deserves it. I think I think we'll get there. I don't think Belichick would would agree with you on that. Yeah, no, he actually would say you're a pussy. Yeah.

48:48Big Cat:His words, not mine.

48:49PFT Commenter:Yeah, that was Bill Belichick.

48:51Big Cat:Don't get mad at us. Not us. I think I wish this had happened. Really? I feel like you would have been upset by it. When Brady played for the Buccaneers, you weren't. Like Belichick coaching for another NFL team? Wait, wait, wait. So when Brady played for the Buccaneers, what? I'm just saying, like, it's weird. Wait, wait, wait. How did I feel about that? Well, you were probably missing that he used to be the quarterback of the Patriots. We talked about it, like, every week on this podcast. I was like, I'm rooting for Brady. I know. He got you there. But ideally. He just got you. You would want him to be the quarterback for your team.

49:23But you just, like, did the thing where you invented how I feel. But then you're like, oh, when Brady played for the Bucs, you hated that. Never, never. Take a step back.

49:31PFT Commenter:You should have hated that. Got it. Yeah.

49:34Big Cat:It's very rare, but he's got you in the corner right now.

49:37PFT Commenter:But not with it.

49:38Big Cat:He's beaten you up. But, Big Cat, do you agree with what I'm saying? That, like, seeing Belichick coaching for a different team. Like, this guy would be kind of weird, right? It would be weird.

49:47PFT Commenter:But he did just checkmate you because he's saying he would root for Belichick.

49:53Big Cat:Always. Okay. All right. He got you. All right. It's okay. For me, I wish it happened.

50:00PFT Commenter:Me too. Yeah, he did say him too. He would have liked that too. All right. My hot seat is Hank because Chris Middleton's on the Wizards. And that's a great signing. The Avengers. Yeah, that's a great signing. That's a great signing.

50:16Big Cat:Really good value too. Great value. Listen, keep the same energy you had for the Trey Young contract when we make a good investment in a quality veteran. That's all I'm saying. Also, my hot seat is Zach because of Streamer Universe.

50:29PFT Commenter:No. Zach, you're good. Zach, you're good. Yeah, we're good. Zach, we're going to keep this in between the white lines. I got a plan. We're going to put it together. Since we last spoke, Zach, tell me this. Actually, I just woke up from a coma from Sunday night. Oh, I can't wait to watch Ronaldo in his next World Cup game. Oh, that's great. You just woke up the other day. He gets to play Spain soon. No, no, no. I'm waking up right now. I fell asleep on Sunday, woke up right now. And where are you at globally? What time zone? Right now, right here, in this moment. Hey, I haven't seen any sports in the last two days.

51:06PFT Commenter:When's Ronaldo play again? The Saudi league kicks up here in a couple weeks, in a couple months. Oh, okay. Well, all right. Well, at least Messi's still in, right? Yeah, I think Argentina may have won today. Yeah, yeah. Incredible game. They did win. They did win. Incredible game. Some really good goals in that game. The possibly rigged Argentina being down 2-0 and then. Oh, unfortunately, no, not possibly. The Egypt coach has gone in all time. Here's what I'll say, though. Great media tour. Here's what I'll say. The good news about Argentina winning. Incredible game. The header to go ahead with like five minutes left in the game.

51:45PFT Commenter:They score three goals like rapid succession to stave off elimination. the one good thing is it's not like I show speed was there saying that he somehow distracted Messi on his penalty kick that got saved he was right behind the net oh he was there he got fucking owned again it was a great save though and to fully answer your question you'll never see Ronaldo on the world stage again he said he's done don't they have the next world go up the other heroes I guess maybe Portugal I mean Spain does they don't have to qualify So I'm going to think about three euros. A lot of guys compare that to the World Cup.

52:24Max's lunch.

52:28Sandwich joke. It was sad. It was tough, man. It was.

52:31Big Cat:So I looked up the quotes from their head coach. This is about as nuclear as a coach can go after a game. So he said, We look better than the reigning champions, better in everything, but the result was influenced by internal factors on the pitch and external factors off it. Perhaps they wanted to keep the world champion in the competition. Perhaps they wanted Messi to stay in the running. In football, there are sometimes external factors that go beyond the technical aspects. The world champion receives support at every level. Okay. There seemed to be pressures from the Argentina side on this outcome, and they objected to the selection of the referee.

53:09Big Cat:We haven't seen respect. We haven't seen fair play. I want to put it in beautiful words and say hard luck, but we have been treated unfairly. And it has been an injustice. Whoa. FIFA rigged. There's a lot of examples of them kind of riding for Messi. Today wasn't one of them. Okay, there we go. That was a great game. It was an awesome game. Awesome. The VAR thing did suck, though. Yeah. To take back a goal. What could have been one of the best goals in the history of the World Cup? To pull that back because of a foul that took place 90 yards away from the goal that the referee missed. I don't know where we're going with VAR.

53:46Big Cat:Stupid. But we need to draw it. We need to rein it in.

53:48PFT Commenter:Yeah.

53:48Big Cat:We need to rein in VAR. It's gone too far.

53:51PFT Commenter:Yeah.

53:51Big Cat:Okay.

53:52PFT Commenter:My cool thrones. I have two. The first is the Big 12. Actually, I should say the Monster Energy Big 12 Conference because they signed a deal today with Monster Energy. And now they are going to be referred to as the Monster Energy Big 12 Conference. That's real. I love this. That's real. I love it. It's going to be patches on all the jerseys on the field. sure it's perfect what a perfect conference for it to be more money the monster energy big 12 conference please refer to it by its its given name yeah so is the uh the sun devil like the

54:28Big Cat:pitchfork is that just going to be the monster logo i don't know that would rock it's crazy asu is probably the most monster energy university listen i saw the numbers i don't know if they're

54:38PFT Commenter:getting paid enough for this but it is in in the concept of it is smart in the fact that if you want your conference to do better just sell everything everyone gets a piece of it they can go get more players you can be better you will money makes money you'll get more tv right all these things so smart by brett yormak but uh yeah the monster energy big 12 conference what what

55:02Big Cat:does this mean for the uh dr pepper tuition giveaway or is the big 12 going to have like Like, are they going to have monster energy giveaways at halftime?

55:09PFT Commenter:I don't know.

55:10Big Cat:That's a good question. That would be pretty cool. That's a very good question. And if they ban the underhand toss, that levels the Big 12 up a step in my mind.

55:18PFT Commenter:Yeah, it could. And then my other cool throne is ABS because it's doing its job. We have seven umpires that have informed the MLB that they will be accepting their buyout and retiring at the end of 2026. so all the umpires are basically like yeah this kind of sucks because we're getting shown up for actually sucking cb buckner las diaz lance uh barksdale some of the guys that are uh deciding to retire so legends good job abs retirement tour for just getting the old guys out for barksdale yeah it's good it's good all right zach uh i think you are correct the hottest seat in the world today was anyone who wanted to see portugal win because spain was a tough pool when it comes to bracket.

55:59They fought hard. I will say another hot seat maybe got today would have to be guys who try to live forever because unfortunately the gentleman who does do blood transfusion with his son and spend five million dollars on a company to try to live forever. He's currently sick. Oh no. That's a hot seat. I feel bad. He dedicates his whole life. His stomach's eating him?

56:18Big Cat:He's got an incurable autoimmune disease. I've seen online he could just eat meat maybe and it would work again.

56:23PFT Commenter:Wait, what do you mean his stomach's eating him? I think his stomach is attacking his... Is there like a diet? Could we do that? Do you want to die? I think it's going after you. Well, I don't want to die, but if your stomach's eating you, then I would assume that your stomach just keeps getting smaller.

56:38Big Cat:Also kind of sus to be eating yourself.

56:43PFT Commenter:Especially when your girlfriend has a perfect pussy. Yeah, medically. Which he has told us. I'll say it didn't know the autoimmune disease is uncurable. This feels a little insensitive now. By who?

56:53Big Cat:Us? By me. I feel bad. Oh. I mean, he's made his entire life opening up his own medical books. That's a good point. Great point, P.O.T. He's got a lot of free advertising and publicity for himself on that.

57:04PFT Commenter:All right. I'm going to say something that, listen, I hope if this is real, I hope he, I don't want to hear it. I don't want to see anyone get sick. I don't want to see anyone suffer. Is there a chance, Windy Fingers, that he announces that he has an incurable disease that somehow he cures?

57:21Big Cat:I think there's a very good chance of that. Yes. That'd be a good move. that he that would probably help his business that he cures via some proprietary formula that

57:33PFT Commenter:you too can purchase just saying i i i hope that's not the case i hope he's i hope somehow he finds a way to beat this but i'm just putting my spidey senses up that does feel like that's on the table though now that you say it definitely makes a lot of sense yeah i didn't really think about it like that but yeah so it kind of kind of tough your stomach acid starts eating itself maybe eat a little meat maybe some vegetables and no more blood transfusion with your son also i i don't like anyone who's like i'm gonna live forever like i don't like that's like the one thing that we all know is the universal truth no one does yeah impossible you can't tempt you

58:09Big Cat:can't tempt fate but sometimes sometimes narcissists have a very difficult time coming to terms with that and so then they would make their entire personality fighting back against it yeah yeah Okay. You're cool. And then Cool Throne, guys who like to see fights, because Conor McGregor's back. Yeah. You'll see this weekend. Conor McGregor had fought since 2021. Oh, what's he been up to? A lot of boating. Maybe some movies. He went on Fallon. I saw that. Very cool. Maybe like... What's in the movie? Roadhouse. Roadhouse, great movie. I don't... It might have been CGI. I'm not sure how he was that jacked in the movie.

58:42He looked huge, if you guys saw that movie. Are you a fan of Conor McGregor? I'm a fan of elite athletes. And sometimes he can put on a good fight. It was a pandemic. He choked out Cowboy. That was a pretty good fight. That was a flying knee. Never mind. I apologize for that.

59:01PFT Commenter:That's okay. I'm disappointed. Hank, you fucked yourself for the Mount Rushmore coming up. He is in hell. No. Oh, we're good.

59:15PFT Commenter:The confidence is... He also has to cook us dinner. I just wanted to bring up the names that did get accepted. I wasn't really trying to throw Zach under the bus, and I kind of feel bad I did, but the names on that list just made me laugh.

59:27Big Cat:What was the rich guy's name again? Straight to the bank. Yeah, straight to the bank. Good hot seat, cool throne. How are you feeling, Hank? You ready for this? You ready for Mount Rushmore? Always. Yeah. Okay.

59:39PFT Commenter:Let's do it. GFT, you got an ad before we get to Mount Rushmore?

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1:01:02PFT Commenter:rushmore of aquatic animals and uh who has first pick i went first last time so i think you do big cat right no no oh it's hank so your second pft we're third we're a little out of order because we didn't do mount rushmore on wednesday and friday so we've changed the order um are you gonna let memes participate today yeah what was your problem with that i just i listened to the show yeah and i just heard a lot of i i i i i i i no well do you obviously didn't listen to the show then yeah yikes it was so we literally said before because you weren't around and Max wasn't around to even the playing field, we'd go mano-a-mano-a-mano.

1:01:45PFT Commenter:So you just didn't listen to the show. And Meme said, yeah, that's fine. I'll sit out this one. I was wondering where Meme was. That's all. Where's Meme? Where's Meme? Where's Meme? I'm here. Yeah, Meme's just sitting right there. And he said, yeah, that's a smart idea because why would I have a partner and no one else does? He also did say, where's Hank? So we did... Mount Rushmore of Aquatic Animals. No Googling. Yep. No Googling. This one we felt, I think, better than the weapons. No Googling. Yeah.

1:02:20R11 thought we had the second pick. We're going to go with the smartest animal in the ocean, dolphins.

1:02:27Big Cat:Okay. Interesting. Zach asked me about where I would put dolphins on my list. I think it's a good pick. I did say kind of a chick pick. Dolphins are kind of chick animals. Dolphins are awesome. They are. I love them. Dolphins are awesome.

1:02:42PFT Commenter:They're great. Very smart. I like dolphins. I think it's a good pick. I can only chicks like dolphins. Just chick vibe. I didn't say it.

1:02:50Big Cat:I just said, I like dolphins. They were on our list. Great. Yeah. I love women. And women love dolphins. Nothing wrong with that. Traveling packs. Great hunting techniques. Yeah. When they go over the waves, they're so sick. Speak like in sonar. Yep. Yep. They've saved humans' lives. Yeah. Dolphins are sick. Max pulled his visor down over his eyes. Max, why are you uncomfortable right now? I'm not uncomfortable I just can't believe I can't believe Henry Lockwood Didn't pick Something that I thought was going To get picked Okay Okay So I'm up Yeah You're up Well my 1-1's Still on the board So I'm gonna take it The Great White Shark Okay Great White Shark Awesome Apex Predator Kind of like But it's like not They don't really Kill that many people Well they dominate The water They are They own the water so we're gonna go specific i'm okay with that sharks or i think yeah i think you can there's there's enough variety in the shark world out there that i'd be okay with all right then yeah

1:03:53PFT Commenter:we'll go specific we'll go specific too okay all right so our first pick is killer whale uh love killer whales um i learned a fact about killer whales did i share it on this show but orcas yeah killer whales i wanted to say killer whales what's the problem with that I thought they don't You guys went on this entire rant Like two weeks ago About how they don't kill people Yeah yeah No no They don't kill people They kill other animals Got it The whole thing is They don't kill people Because they respect people And they only eat the thing They're supposed to eat But sometimes But they'll fuck up a sea lion A seal A salmon Whatever you want With killer whales Weren't there a bunch of

1:04:31Big Cat:Ales that Or a bunch of killer whales That were trying to Fuck up humans Like tipping their ships over Well

1:04:36PFT Commenter:They do kill people when they're captive, which actually is the most badass thing you can do because they get put in jail and then they're like, fuck this. I'm going to kill all these fat people at SeaWorld. It's a great pick. I had that.

1:04:46Big Cat:That was my second.

1:04:46PFT Commenter:Yeah. Killer whale would be a slang term or they're synonymous with orca. What? Would they be orcas? Would that just be like an offhand way to describe them?

1:04:58Big Cat:Like, are you asking if they would appreciate being called killer whales? Yes. I think they probably prefer orcas, but... Okay. We're not doing the PC thing Yeah, it was fun names Yeah, all right

1:05:13PFT Commenter:I'm not the one who said dolphins were chick picks I had your back on dolphins I'm just saying, yeah, you guys picked orcas But you're calling them killer whales Okay, we can call it orcas What do you guys want to do for the next pick? Do you like what I said? I'm good with either of those What did you say? Okay corner of the market. It's the biggest thing in the ocean, the blue whale. It's fucking massive. Absolute beast. Great pick. Thank you. I love blue whales. I do. I love blue whales. Clean the whales. Clean them.

1:05:54Big Cat:PFT? I'm going to go with my second pick. I'm going to go with hippos. We had it on our list. Massive. Yep. Maybe the most deadly animal on this list. Hippos don't swim.

1:06:11PFT Commenter:It counts, but I'm just saying hippos don't swim. They run around. They run on the bottom. I'm just saying that's a fun fact. That's how they swim. It's just a fun fact to say. Hippos don't swim. They actually don't know how to swim. Yeah, that's how Leroy used to swim.

1:06:23Big Cat:They run on the bottom of the water. He would run with his hind legs on the bottom, and then he'd take his front paws and act like he was swimming, but he had no idea. I feel like when you have young kids, you just learn fun facts about animals that no one else has. It's so sad.

1:06:38PFT Commenter:Yeah, I mean, I watched it live. I went to the Link Park Zoo. I watched the hippo. He's just fucking walking on the bottom.

1:06:44Big Cat:Hippos are like the most chill-looking animal that actually will fuck you up. Oh, yeah. You ever seen him eat whole watermelons all at once? That's just awesome. Yeah. Slow-mo when they crush him. That could be your skull. Also, I think Mudang counts under this pick, too. It's a pygmy hippo. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, happy birthday, by the way, Mudang.

1:07:04PFT Commenter:Okay, you guys have two. We would like to go with... Nothing. We'd like to go with giant squid. Okay, good pick. Yeah, good pick. That's a dude pick. Badass. It's a badass pick. It's a badass pick. And then we will go with the bluefin tuna. Okay.

1:07:25Big Cat:Okay. Tuna. Delicious? Tastes great. Yeah, it's great. Tastes great. The coolest thing to catch if you're a fisherman, that bluefin tuna is like your... That's what you want to catch. A trophy fish. Trophy fish. Yeah. Good picks. Good picks. Really enjoyed those. Same. All right, my next pick, I'm going to go with Crocodile. Okay, we had it on our list too. Very deadly. Have you ever heard the story of Gus? I think the crocodile's name was Gus. The killer croc from, I want to say Congo. guess how many people gus the crocodile has killed and eaten in his life gustav is 7.5 million this one crocodile yeah has not no that's not that's not close okay 300 people oh that's way less than i thought yeah but this one fucking gus is a lot of people as i think it's the animal that's got the most confirmed kills of any animal for an individual.

1:08:32Big Cat:And he's 71 years old right now.

1:08:35PFT Commenter:Okay. So that's Gus. Gus. All right. We have our last two picks. The first one we know, we're going to go Hammerhead Shark. Love a Hammerhead Shark. They look so fucking cool. And also the only shark that I feel confident I could fuck up by just punching it right in the middle of the nose.

1:08:50Big Cat:Hammerheads have a bad marketing. I feel like they were hot when we were kids, and you don't hear so much about hammerheads. They just look like they're awesome. Aliens. If you see a hammerhead at an aquarium, it looks cool as hell.

1:09:02PFT Commenter:It's a showstopper. It's a panty dropper. Yeah. Big time. All right, boys, we got to figure out our last one. I don't know what to do. I like nine. I was going to say nine. Do you want to go with nine? Yeah. I like nine. Yeah? Max, no? No, yeah? No? Yeah, yeah. All right, we're going to go with the octopus. The octopus. I like the octopus. guy's a fucking weirdo out in the ocean yeah um smart very smart i saw that documentary the

1:09:30Big Cat:octopus teacher yeah and i i still eat calamari but i feel bad now whenever i eat it the uh our

1:09:37PFT Commenter:good friend nick turrani has made the the case that the octopus has the worst pr of any animals out there because there just should be they should be kids favorite animal more often yeah because they are like weird and and interesting and smart um but you know kids don't they don't fall on the

1:09:53Big Cat:octopus yeah they don't okay probably it's hard to say yeah and then you could say octopi that's kind of cool yeah all right okay good pick thanks kumbaya kumbaya uh my last pick this is going to be the one that might win it or or lose it for me i love this i'm excited i'm excited mermaids mermaids okay they got the rack they got the rack you're just you're just thinking of tits i'm thinking of tits yeah yeah you're like how can i get tits into this it's a tits adjacent pick yes for sure um but just like a chick that's part fish part chick mermaids aren't real it's okay it's all right i'm all right with them having it okay yeah all right wow

1:10:39PFT Commenter:and we also don't know that yeah we haven't explored so much of the ocean with that attitude The ocean is... Our next pick was literally being Mermaid with big tits, so... Okay.

1:10:48Big Cat:There we go. Okay. Where they got the clams.

1:10:54PFT Commenter:Just pick like a hot chick in the water. Hot chick in the shower. Fourth pick, we would like to take Alligator. Okay. All right. Good pick. Good pick. Yeah. So the one that we were going to take that was going to be adjacent to Mermaid was, and I don't know if it would have worked, SpongeBob. Yeah. He does live under the ocean. Good pick. Yep. That's a good pick. But I don't know. We kept it in the middle.

1:11:18Big Cat:We kept it in the middle of fairway this time. No one mentioned beavers or otters?

1:11:22PFT Commenter:Or turtles. Turtles was one that I thought. Big misses. Turtles. Seals. People are going to be pissed about turtles, I think. We had a discussion in the car about penguins. Would they have passed? Probably not. What about polar bear? Would that have played? Yeah. See, that's where the penguin. Yeah, polar bear gets.

1:11:37Big Cat:I think I would have allowed a penguin, I think. Yeah. Polar bears and hippos? I was like. Hippos now. Hippos are basically underwater for most of their day. Lobster. King crab. Alaskan king crab. We had high up. Swordfish. Swordfish. What about Marlin?

1:11:55PFT Commenter:Yeah. We had Marlin, then swordfish is kind of, we were thinking trophy fish. Yeah. Marlin's a trophy fish. Mahi, Mahi, just because I had so much of it. Marlin is like B trophy fish. Yeah, Marlin's like the number one trophy fish. Hank's just hungry. I had my my like every meal in St. Martin. It was so good. Yeah. Stingray. Yeah. Yeah. Red snapper. King size jellyfish. Clownfish. Pufferfish. Seahorse. I had seahorse on my honorable mentions.

1:12:24Big Cat:Isn't every seahorse female? No, I think it's the men carry the babies, though. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. What about anaconda? Anaconda. I thought about that one. I don't know if that's fully... No, I think that would work. I think that would play. Those things are fucking terrifying. That's the scariest thing on the planet, I think. Just from watching that movie when I was a kid. What about Piranha? Piranha's good. Piranha or Barracuda? Barracuda. We saw Barracuda. Yeah, scary. Like Zach said, that... Chef Donnie went and tried to pet it. Barracudas are so scary. Chef Donnie, literally, I swear to God, he went and tried to play with this Barracuda.

1:13:01PFT Commenter:Barracudas are so scary. Goldfish?

1:13:04Big Cat:Yeah, goldfish.

1:13:05PFT Commenter:old-fashioned goldfish picking Larry would have been a great pander pick that would have been a great pander pick holy fuck wow I'm actually happy that we all fucked that up because that would have been Paul the octopus what do you guys think about

1:13:26Big Cat:norwals don't really understand them they seem like they're fake but they're real belugas are those just small whales I mean we picked different types of whales No I just didn't know what a beluga I'm not sure what a beluga is Yeah they're belugas Humpback whales I love watching them jump out of the water I think Hank probably does too Yep big time Why didn't you pick it We were going to try and get orcas

1:13:53PFT Commenter:Oh that's why you were getting mad at me You thought orcas Was going to last all the way back We thought we had the second pick Oh You thought dolphin was going to go 1-1 Shark Yeah Great White Shark Great White Shark was the easy one He does have a whole week Michael Fels would have been a good pick Michael Fels would have been a great pick So you want the Should it say Orca for us? Well that's the animal yeah You can take Orca It's fine it's actually better for us Because we don't want two whales back to back So it's better Yeah Blue Whale Because if it says Killer Whales Blue Whales It'd be like oh dude you just took too many whales how do we think everyone did there i was shocked by dolphin going one one i was i was shocked we thought we were gonna get dolphin at three i thought we thought it was we were fighting about what we were gonna do at three because it was gonna go yeah the rain white shark orca hey we're mean soccer might not be the best mount russell it's a long season we talked about already there's like 20 more of these left we i think we took a different approach for most Pigs of like attributes.

1:15:00I was also like, I was thinking food. I was just like, yeah. Well, you just ate so much fish this past week. So you were just thinking about the fish. I ate a lot of fish. And my, my friends, I caught a big tuna last week and it looked awesome. Yeah. Cause I was just saying,

1:15:11PFT Commenter:when you said tuna, we were thinking trophy fish, but you didn't think Marlin. At one point, our list was going like ceviche. Yeah. And then what is the calamari came up? Like we are. Yeah. Crab cakes.

1:15:23Big Cat:Yeah. This is Hank's equivalent of going shopping at the grocery store. We haven't eaten dinner yet. Yeah. Yeah.

1:15:29PFT Commenter:Bass would have been good.

1:15:30Big Cat:Oh, what about a striped musky sturgeon sturgeon?

1:15:35PFT Commenter:Yeah. Those things are like prehistoric. Yeah. Goliath grouper. Yeah. Sturgeon. That was the one. I was trying to think of what those were called. Asian carp. Asian carp were fucked up. Snook. Salmon.

1:15:46Big Cat:What about the one that lives at the bottom that's got the light and it like lures you in with a little thing?

1:15:52PFT Commenter:I don't know what that is because we didn't have Google. Yeah.

1:15:55Big Cat:I know. I know what it is. I don't know this name. Is it lanternfish? Is that what you said? Anglerfish.

1:16:01PFT Commenter:Oh yeah, what about like sea slugs at the way, way bottom?

1:16:04Big Cat:Sea cucumbers. That shit is crazy. Pinfish? Yeah.

1:16:08PFT Commenter:What about sea onions, Shane? All the rich people on the Titanic? Oh, yeah. Osama Bin Laden? You should have picked that, Hank. Shout out. Shout out.

1:16:25PFT Commenter:Why did you shout him out again?

1:16:28Big Cat:Oh, because I think I said that because of 9-11. So that's what Tom Brady. That's what delayed. Yeah, the Patriots, the NFL canceled a week. And then the next week they came back. Drew Bledsoe got knocked out. Brady came in. Shout out.

1:16:45PFT Commenter:There you go. Oh, man. OK, we got great interview with the Chuck Brothers. Then Taylor Twalman talking some more soccer. And then we're going to finish with guys on chill.

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1:17:53PFT Commenter:okay we now welcome on two very very special guests we are live from the american century championship in tahoe it is the kachuk brothers matthew brady teammates let's start with that i want to talk about your golf game because i actually have a question that you guys aren't going to like about your golf game but let's start with teammates on the florida panthers has it fully set in yet and uh like what's the vibe are you guys like this is the coolest thing ever when we go yeah the new team yeah it for me it hasn't sunk in yet like it's just still so surreal I mean there's been a couple times where we're at the rink when we went down there right after the trade and it's like holy cow this is gonna be every day for six months and we're we're figuring out when our first fight's gonna be so I think it's definitely gonna happen around mid-camp sesh but uh but no we're uh I mean it's crazy we're gonna live now three minutes away from each other and uh i don't even think it's gonna hit until the first game of the year yeah like wow this is real life yeah are you so matthew because you obviously you know you won cups with the panthers you're one of the vets on the team are you gonna be able to yell at your brother when he fucks up like are you gonna yeah nobody's safe on that team you can't even like you can't even make a play in poker and not get chirped on this team so there there's nobody off limits um It is crazy, though.

1:19:14Like Brady's 20, 26 and year nine because I'm in year 11. And he's the second youngest guy on the team.

1:19:23PFT Commenter:That's not. So it's it's a very like the the core of the team is all from 20. I think Anton Lindell is 24 and then to 30 or 31. So everybody on the team is pretty much in that age range without, you know, a couple older guys. So I think he's going to fit in perfectly. And even just like being in Florida years past, like getting to know some of the guys, I guess I felt like he's, you know, been around enough where the camaraderie part and the getting to know guys like that's going to be so easy, where for most guys that's a hard thing to do coming to a new team. So we flew down. He got traded on Sunday, Father's Day, best day ever.

1:20:03And we went down Monday, got him help with all the house. And my wife helped his wife out with that. and then brought him to the rink and introduced him to everybody. It just fit, like, perfectly.

1:20:13PFT Commenter:Are you going to haze him? You have to haze him. See, you're already not passing the test. Now you're going soft on your own brother. No, no, no, no, no. I just don't want to tell him what we're doing. He doesn't know, like, the pranks we pull in this locker room. Like, nobody's safe at all. So he'll get it out of the gates. I just can't give away my secrets. Hide my car keys. That's the one thing. Hide your car keys. That's like a nice prank. Yeah. If we move your car, that's like very nice. You should just have your dad be like, I don't love you, Brady. Ah, gotcha. Gotcha. That would hurt. Come to the first game in a 19 jersey.

1:20:50That would hurt.

1:20:51Big Cat:Is there truth to the rumor that you forced your way to the Panthers to improve the podcast? Yeah, no, there's been a lot of things out there that a lot of people have fabricated, but that's a part of it. So that's a part of it. The podcast is going to be better. Like when you're face to face, it's so much better. Yeah, it's going to be, we're actually talking about how we're going to do it. So it's, I think everybody's pretty happy. Do you know who was the first guy actually we talked to or I talked to that said we should do a podcast like probably three years ago was my GM, Bill Zito. No way.

1:21:22He was like, you guys, I got to do this. Like it would be genius idea. Like you guys would crush it. Everybody in hockey has never been done. People would listen to it. And then I talked to him like a couple of weeks ago when you were in Florida. And he's like, yeah, me and my wife, his wife, Julie, were talking about it and thought it'd be a great idea. And yeah. Yeah. That's pretty cool that you have the blessing of the GM. Oh, yeah. He's like the most on board. He was the guy who told us we should have started. Well, it's good for hockey.

1:21:47PFT Commenter:Like it's not, I mean, there's, you know, some, some, I would say there's some people who play sports that maybe they shouldn't be as live as possible. Like I think like maybe Jalen Brown or Micah Parsons going live on Twitch right after a game sometimes can get them in trouble. but podcasting like for hockey you grow the sport yeah we just like tell what all of our listeners have talked about or like said to us like in person stuff they love the behind the scenes stories of what's actually happening right now with current players like it's one thing for a former player to talk about like you know in my day this is what happened but for them to hear like current events type stories like they love it so we got a lot more where that came from and a lot more good ones with us playing together now just kind of shit on spitting chiclets but that's fine i actually have a question we love those guys okay i wish they i wish they had it when they were playing because they have millions of unreal stories you say you love them because i uh i might have texted a couple of guys being like hey the chuck brothers are coming by got any questions and the only question that i got out of it was why are you dodging them on sandbaggers oh my god this has canceled almost like five i don't know about that they say that you guys were dodging them for the sandbaggers we might have dodged them once yeah we did dodge him once we did it just things didn't line up i didn't like where my game was at i didn't want to embarrass myself no i think i think a good sandbagger though would be this year in florida yeah we can go to yans's course yeah it's right there and jay could be on your team let's say we'll do we'll do you me dad versus those three i mean we've i've played enough with yans yans is a great player wits obviously really good yeah and biz scares me i've heard that he says he's not good but he actually is really good yeah so we'll we'll link up it if it doesn't happen this year with me and him being on the same team, my dad being in Naples, then we got big issues.

1:23:32Big Cat:Yeah. How much of partying at 11 was a driving factor in you wanting to play in Florida? I feel like I would just want to stay there. I've actually never been to 11, I swear. There's no footage of me being there. But that was an incredible night. I mean, it just felt like we were the only people there. It was incredible. Yeah, but I heard that spot's great. I've never been. Fantastic spot. Well, now that he saw that after one championship with the Olympics, that's where we go when we won the Stanley Cup. So it's a little bit of motivation to win it again and go back there for a crazy party. Hell yeah.

1:24:03When was the last time you guys got to a fight, like a physical fight? Probably, I don't know if, we haven't thrown punches since we've been kids. Three years ago. But the biggest wrestling, by far the biggest wrestling match we've been in, I can remember was three years ago. It was, he was playing like be a pro mode in NFL. And I'm like, let me just do one play. He was the quarterback. and i throw like obviously a hail mary i get hit as i'm throwing pick six the other way and he goes we're going right now he was genuinely pissed off i have no idea why i was so mad at him but i was so you're a lunatic yeah i was i just put in such a good shift oh that's so perfect so wait who won i think you probably it's like the same old story the last bunch of years you win like 90 but i make you tap out of it yeah i don't have the killer instinct with him for some reason but But, yeah, win 90%.

1:24:56Maybe fatigue gets in there. I'm just like, all right, let's just get this over. Condition. Yeah. Never been a great condition. Yeah, I need to hop on the bike.

1:25:03PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right, so golf game. Brady, this is your first time here, right? Yeah. Matthew, how many times do you play this? This is three. Three. Brady, are you thinking about how many patrons you're going to maybe hit? I saw – I did a pre-scout. Everybody does pre-scout of the holes and the hole locations. I'm pre-scouting the ropes. Yeah. With where in my shots I could potentially hit them. So I expect it a little bit narrower. So now that it's, oh, there's going to be a couple. There's going to be a couple fours, a couple tuggies, a couple Ric Flairs. So we'll see. We'll see. We'll see. I've taken the over.

1:25:38Yeah. I don't know how you guys do it.

1:25:41Big Cat:It's a crazy part of the tournament is there's a lot of guys that, you know, they might consider them supposed to be decent golfers. But when we play on the weekends, if there was a gallery on every hole, people would be dying left and right. So, yeah, you got to have somebody watching, like a designated four person. The gallery treats it, though, like it's the masters. Right. They're right there. Yeah. Forgetting it's mostly, I mean, for me, an amateur golfer, but I have no idea where these balls are going. Yeah. I mean, there are sticks. Yeah. What do you normally shoot? Yeah, we play with Marty today.

1:26:12Marty and Jake going. Marty Fish is incredible. They are both awesome. Yeah. Awesome. So, like, they're safe around those guys, but not with us. I'd say my game, I'd be happy in the mid-80s. Okay. Okay. So, yeah, that's a lot of people you're going to hit. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's three around at least. Yeah. I think the over-under is probably nine and a half for the weekend for you. Yeah.

1:26:33PFT Commenter:Where did you finish the last few years? I think around 30. I would have to check. So, yeah. Try to get in the top third. But there's no excuse this year. I mean, we've kind of fumbled this year, and so I've had two months to play golf. So, hopefully it can be a little bit better. Was it weird watching the playoffs for the first time in a long time? Yeah, and a bunch of guys on my team, like we were actually talking before the playoffs, like, are you going to watch? Like, no, like, it's going to piss me off too much. Like, I love it so much, and it's really motivating, too, I think, even just watching it and being in your summer training and the dog days, and you're like, we should be out there.

1:27:11Right. Then you do an extra rep the next day and be like, all right, we're getting back there next year. So I love watching it, but it was a little – it's still frustrating knowing that we had a good team and we had a chance if we would have got in. But more motivation for next year, and we needed to get him and get us over the top. It's not your team anymore. It's our team. Yeah, it's true. It's true. Still feels crazy saying that. Yeah, like he called me on Free Agent Frenzy, I think it's called. And it's cool to talk about our team now. Like, it's not like, hey, what do you guys think you're doing?

1:27:46Like, what about you? It's like we can just talk about one team. And I know all of our family and all of our friends are just super jacked up to have one team to launch. Yeah.

1:27:53PFT Commenter:So how close was it to somewhere else? Do you know, like, was it between a couple teams and you're like, oh, shit, this could go either way? Yeah. It was a couple teams in the mix there. And, I mean, of course, it was always enticing. and just with him and with their team just being around and just seeing the professionalism that they have day in and day out and it's all about winning. So, I mean, it was a good process. It was a very unique process, but it was fun going through that and ending up in Florida was pretty special. I had no idea. Like we were in the member guest in St. Louis at my course there and he was on the phone a little bit on the Saturday.

1:28:37I'm like, that's weird. like he's just leaving me for a hole like I gotta play this by myself like what there's no phone call it's that important it's a member guest like this is the most important thing in the world right now and uh so I knew something like was maybe happening and had no idea about Florida like seriously no idea and we're at our parents house the next day getting ready for a little gold medal party we were gonna have that night with all our family and friends and he gets a no you got a call but you didn't have your phone so for Saturday I was told you know things are happening fast so be by your phone saturday nothing happened sunday all day just like it was always right right on my lap five minutes for family pictures i didn't have it that's when it happened of course and then our grandpa was sitting there and he's like huh this is interesting like he's on his apple watch he's like oh i just saw a tweet from no emily caplan pierre lebrun like brady just got traded to florida i was like what i immediately ran to my phone had like five missed calls I was like holy shit there it is that is crazy yeah yeah how much insight did

1:29:37Big Cat:you have during that process in terms of like which teams it could possibly be no for me it's what no without what I had I had a no move clause so um no I was fortunate that you know for the teams is kind of up to up to me which teams were were included and you know for me I included you know four teams and and uh so just talk with them throughout this you know on video calls on on Zoom calls and just getting to know the GM's coaches. So then when it comes down to it, my position, I had the final say of yes or no. But I think towards that last day, it was just happening fast for all the teams involved.

1:30:18And then got a phone call that was happening with Florida. And it was kind of a no-brainer there.

1:30:25PFT Commenter:Are the four teams public? Can we guess? You have to tell us if we get it right. Okay, so Florida obviously is welcome. I know he's not going to. Yeah. Nobody knows. Everybody thinks they know, but nobody knows. Everybody speculates. Unfortunately, I was hanging with you guys this morning at the coffee shop. So Vegas, I know for sure. Because you guys told me that. I think that might have been me, actually. I was a doubter, yeah. I was a doubter, yeah. All right, so we have two of the four. Yeah. Was Chicago on there? Okay. Colorado. It's got to be no stadium. All right, one more guess each. All right.

1:31:02PFT Commenter:say oh sharks it's a good one but dallas wow okay so now that wasn't like he wasn't saying no to both he was just like oh you're just saying oh okay i wasn't responding okay podcast we're gonna get it out of you after the cameras are turned off we're just gonna say it on your next one yeah

1:31:21Big Cat:one thing you won't say about yourselves i'll brag on you guys you guys are heroes you saved to life today you don't know that we know that but we were driving back to the hotel i accidentally stole a car this morning so i was driving back to drop it off at the front desk and uh and there was a lady that was pulling around a corner with the flattest tire that you've ever seen in your life her wheel was pretty much falling off the car she had no idea and you guys were just yelling at her be like hey hey pull over did you offer to help change the tire okay i have to press time about okay not both heroes he immediately just teed off on the next hole he was like okay it's handled over there but i saw it i don't think she had any idea no idea it was the loudest noise i ever heard in my life like we were like roll down the window like your front tire pops she said what and stepped out and she's like already on the phone and she's showing it and i was like it's just a tough bounce yeah it was one of those she was willing to drive back to reno like she was driving back to california yeah that thing was about to fall off 500 feet away we saw memes Our guy at Mims was like, hmm, that's Brady.

1:32:21Big Cat:You can catch up. But it was funny because it was like everybody like helping her, trying to guide her. And Matthew, all of a sudden, we just hear the team shot. He had nothing to do with it. He's got to handle it. There were so many like cooks in the kitchen too. Like I didn't want to be another annoying, like here's what you do. They were here. You, Marty, everybody handled it great.

1:32:43PFT Commenter:Last time we had you guys on, you guys said you were going to do a Team USA meetup over the summer. So have you scheduled it? Like I know obviously you were probably talking to Quinn Hughes when you maybe were going to go to Minnesota because that was one of the four teams. So Quinn actually. It's funny to say that because Quinn in the summer in Jersey, he actually moved him and Jack moved like three doors down for me for the month of June. And those guys are complete legends. It was fun to see them, see them buzzing around. But, no, there's some good sauna sessions just chatting it up. Love that.

1:33:18Yeah, seeing what he was thinking, stuff like that. But they're the best. We had so much time together and just great guys. There's been a lot of, like, opportunities too. Like, I know a few guys went to D.C. for the fourth. A bunch of guys, a bunch of us are going to ESPYs on Wednesday, like next week. Oh, nice. Bold's is going to be here this week, Matt Boldy. Oh, yeah, I saw him with us, yeah. And it's just, yeah, he's going to have a chance. I guess he's a really good player. So he might have a chance this weekend. But we've, the group chat is alive and well. Like we've done a great job of keeping, not even keeping in touch, just like constant communication and just having, I don't know, like all it takes is one person to have a memory of that and like see something or have a picture or like find a picture of the day or something they'll send it in and then the group chat gets going for a while it's it's i'm telling you like collectively the best group of guys ever so all like-minded like all played together at one point like very very similar personalities and it was it was just a blast and yeah that group's that that's a tough group to beat personality-wise who's who's the one guy on the group chat that

1:34:32PFT Commenter:has not been pulling their weight there's always one we call them out right now oh i think no There's got to be one guy who's gone silent for a while. I mean, I'll cheer him because he's my boy, Sandy. Sandy won, so I'll throw in like a liker. Yeah, but he's not adding it. He's just doing the thumbs up. He's probably just pumping iron all the time. He's so dialed. It's hard to get an award, though, on that group chat. Once it gets going, it just goes. I mean, Millsy, Marks, Troj, Charlie, Austin in there, Helly. Like it's, it's just constant with us. So it's, uh, I mean, I guess it's easier to hide, but everybody's very active.

1:35:12PFT Commenter:So this is kind of a dumb, maybe a bad question, but obviously we're all Americans. We were rooting for team USA and in the world cup, but is there a small part of you that's like, yeah, they, they couldn't do the thing we could do. Not at all. We did it. You didn't. No, it's, it wasn't. I mean, it's just incredible the, on that stage, I mean it was an unfortunate last game but just to see how unified the country was watching them was like just so awesome to be a part of and kind of brought us back to yeah it reminded us a lot of that like I mean I'm sure not a ton of people were watching the Olympics compared to the end when we were there and just like each game it was like each game that US won it was like double the viewers for the next one the next one and that's kind of how we felt going back to Milan but it's amazing what the world stage and playing for your country will do for the whole country and having success.

1:36:03And I keep going back to, like, it's amazing how that was the first Olympics that NHL players were in since 2014. Like, what a shame, like, 12 years not having that. Like, it's so unfortunate. But, I mean, I guess it was worth the wait for America. They fixed it.

1:36:17Big Cat:Do you guys have any advice for the U.S. soccer team, how to be a better American sports team? I love those guys. Like, I was such a super fan. I was kind of a bandwagon fan because I'm not a huge soccer guy. But I'm just mad at him. I know that came off really angry. They do need toughness. I am a little bit upset with the team. This is like my view watching them because I was watching the England-Mexico game, the game before. I couldn't believe how big England's like midfielders and defense were. So maybe just a little bit bigger. Get bigger. Get stronger. Yeah, get your weight up. But they were great.

1:36:53And like having it in the U.S. was so cool. Yeah. Like me and my friends in St. Louis, like for the three or four games prior, Like we would always go somewhere to watch. And it's just like out of – I know the last game was not ideal, but that in itself was a win for the rest of the country, just how important it was for all of us to watch and support, I guess.

1:37:12PFT Commenter:Yeah, and then a spin zone is that with the whole Balogun red card, you guys are kind of like a distant memory with, you know, Team USA getting involved in politics. That's good. Yeah. Right? That's a positive. Yeah, that's a positive. They got all the heat off you guys. It's like, oh, yeah. No, nobody. It feels like everyone, if he wouldn't have came back, it would have been controversy if he came back. I mean, that's just, I guess that's sometimes just sports. It's all good.

1:37:38Big Cat:Yeah. I'm glad that we can move on from, like, getting, like, people asking you guys questions about why did you pick up a phone call? Like, that was the stupidest news cycle ever. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, we loved watching the Olympics this year. The Four Nations, are we doing that again this year? World Cup's in 28. so it's like every two years they have they have a unique thing that they're doing at the all-star game this year what is that three and three tournament for like u.s canada finland sweden under what is it under 23 yeah i just like the all-star game and hockey like the traditional one like the three on three and the skills like i mean it wasn't doing that well like it was a hard watch i think and then we did the four nations and then the olympics so i think they're kind of rallying around that i told i think we were talking about it on our pod not too long ago they should just bring all the guys that played like the six forwards the 3d and heli they should just make that the team usa for i'd be more than happy i'd be more than happy to spend my break sitting on the bench and watching yeah without a doubt wait so speaking of your pod wingmen go go uh subscribe

1:38:42PFT Commenter:do you guys now that you guys have been doing it for what uh like almost a year right almost a year almost a year do you have any newfound respect for us you want to compliment us you know we're on 10 years yeah we talked about it this morning yeah probably the hardest thing in the podcast world is scheduling yeah and just like figuring out that's why like i'm very happy he's in florida not on a team on the west coast because that would have been a nightmare vegas so that's what i did slip i did i did slip i'm like i'm just happy he's in florida and like

1:39:17yeah very very much appreciation and you guys are obviously so good at like you didn't have to say that with different guests too it's like he's right you could always have you always have certain like questions right and then it's like what you can do like off the cuff and like yeah if you don't want to go too far one way and then not talk about what you got to talk about so definitely a lot of respect for the podcast world especially you boys we did run into

1:39:40Big Cat:i think we're in minute 90 with belichick and we hadn't asked him a single question about tom Brady. Big Cat was like, oh, yeah. Yeah, Tom Brady was pretty good, right? He's like, all right, interview's over. So for you, Matthew, what – actually, I saw – Zach showed this to me before we sat down. You went up in an F-16? I did. How awesome was that? Insane. Was it crazy? Were they pulling like – That's the most FOMO I've ever had in my life is seeing that. It looked awesome. Where were you? In Ottawa. Not invited? Yeah. Still in Ottawa. Canada. Shit. They don't have F-16s. They have the F-18. it's not quite as good um it was great nose authority though amazing though um we pulled nine and a half g's uh for a few seconds but the hardest one that i did was like seven and a half for probably wrath the guy flying me complete legend i think he said it was like 15 to 20 seconds and by the end of it my circle was like this and i was seeing light out of this everything else was dark i was like a breath or two away from just passing out holy shit i never never felt like i had to puke except for when he let me fly it and of course i'm just like turning at nine o 'clock and we're just doing barrel rolls in the sky i'm like whoa okay wait he said you want to take out you want to take the sticks no he just said plane's yours see that thing there do whatever you want with it so immediately i'm like do you think he was just like letting you do it and he was actually like when you hand a kid an unplugged control yeah exactly yeah i mean you're really good yeah i was not very good so i think that's why i definitely knew i was flying but um that was being in control of that plane over the water i mean so high up but like you're looking down it's the ocean it was it was a little intimidating but time in my life i would love to do it you're trying to reenact top gun maverick without a doubt yeah i'm like breathing like the f-16 breath when it wasn't didn't even need to yeah just start talking like pilot yeah we're gonna be out of the water just those guys are unreal though like the thunderbirds they are top notch at what they do it's amazing like we were i flew on friday with them as they were doing their test run for the air show the next day and their wings are like this far away from each other and certain maneuvers it's just it's unreal yeah a lot of credit um brady do you think you're

1:41:56PFT Commenter:getting a video when you go back to ottawa or you think you get booed i think i'm for sure gonna get booed yeah are you gonna get a video though or no i don't know we'll see we'll see i don't we'll See what they got from you. Yeah. I don't know. I mean. Are you like thinking about that at all? I feel like they give videos to guys that have been like places for like a year now. Yeah. I mean, I would think they would. Not sure. I don't know what's going to happen. But yeah, hopefully I heard some rumblings that it's early on in the season. Oh, nice. Yeah. That'd be fun to get back. I mean. Yeah.

1:42:30PFT Commenter:Also, does it make you not feel better, but like you guys lost to the Hurricanes. The Hurricanes were just dominant. I mean, were they just as good as we watched where it's just like it's just so hard to beat them? Yeah, I mean, I think what they did so well is just didn't give you any ice. They suffocated you. And that's how I felt all serious, like tried doing whatever. Just they gave you no room to do it. And, yeah, I mean, just sucks getting swept. I mean, everybody can always say you played better than that. But then they got swept. And, you know, I know for myself it wasn't good enough. So that was the first time.

1:43:06It was a tough pill to swallow.

1:43:08Big Cat:I got a really dumb question for you guys. When you were little, how long did it take you to spell your name? It feels like something that a kid might not easily pick up on. Yeah. That's a great question. Thank you. I talked way earlier than Brady. Brady was like a really late time. I had my own language. Wait, really? Yeah. How late? I was speaking gibberish. Until 26. Did you have a name for your language? no so did you ever have because i came up with because my son's like that now yeah he's like just turning two but he speaks his own language but i don't want to get in trouble wait did your

1:43:45PFT Commenter:dad did you ever like did your parents ever take you to like the doctor and being like i went to a speech um was a therapist yeah and i couldn't get my s's right i was like that's normal dammy sprinkler so yeah so i got it all dialed in love it uh zach yeah i still can't i still can't spell your guys names i just i just throw a bunch of vowels there's no consonants that's what i just tell people don't even look at the t i just literally when i when i spell it i just throw a bunch of k's c's and h's just like somewhere in there it's gonna make sense yeah uh yeah we We got Zach. Zach's going to ask the question for you guys.

1:44:22PFT Commenter:Zach's going to ask the Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. Promo code TAKE. 20 % off first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback dot com. Also, thank you to Matthew and Brady because they did this on short notice. We were just – they were actually having a nice lunch. I was like, hey, can you guys pod? Just a wet lunch. We call it wet lunch. A couple drinks falling. So all-time guys. All right, Zach, you ready? Yes, sir. Gentlemen, thank you for your time today. I did have a quick question. Speak up. So Matthew, do you hear recently winning back to back Stanley Cups with the Panthers?

1:44:52And then Brady, you coming down to Florida, that kind of brings together the ultimate team chemistry you could have being brothers. Some are speculating you guys could be in like guarantee a championship territory. And I was just curious if you felt the same. And if so, if you'd like to declare that here today. Nothing is ever guaranteed. And our team did not have our best year last year at all. And for us to have a chance to get at the top of the mountain, we needed to get somebody like him. So we are a better team now than we were at the end of the season. So all you can ask for is a chance, and I think we got a chance.

1:45:25PFT Commenter:Brady, you should guarantee it. Really, like, make yourself feel at home. There's been enough controversy around me in the last little bit, so I need to go a couple weeks without controversy. You got another question? Yeah, quick follow-up. I know you guys make your careers out on the ice. We are here at beautiful Lake Tahoe this weekend. If it's 1v1 head-to-head, we're pivoting the ice melts, swim race. Who's crossing the finish line first? Wow. I think depending on the length of it, I think short distance, I get him. And then he's just his cardio is as below average as he's going to get. So I think I got him.

1:45:58Yeah, you got me on long distance.

1:46:00PFT Commenter:Blow my load early. Cardio's a factor. What's going to happen when one of you gets in a fight next year? Are you going to feel like an extra special, like I got to go defend him? Or is it just teammates? I mean, that's tough because when he fought at Four Nations, I've never been more nervous going into it. I'm like, the last thing I needed for him was to get knocked out on this stage. Like, that would just be brutal. But when he was fighting, like, I truly felt like I could fight anybody. Yeah, super strength. Like, the adrenaline that I felt, like, seeing him go and, like, seeing – I don't even know – all I kept saying was, like, I couldn't speak – again, speak English, but I was like, just fuck yeah for, like, 20 times.

1:46:41And then, like, once he, you know, fought, did great, I was like, I feel like I could take anybody right now. Yeah. That was the same thing with me, though. Like for mine, like I was as calm and chill, like not calm. I was like seeing red. And then for him, I'm like a little bit like you get more nervous when it's not you.

1:46:57PFT Commenter:Yeah. Now it's my teammate. But also like what is it like the like you don't want to see your big brother get beat up and then you you got to defend your little brother. Yeah, I think that, I mean, I have a feeling that if somebody's, I mean, he's obviously, like, pretty close to, he's a light heavyweight. Right. Definitely, in that tier of whatever you want to call it. Sneaky called you fat. Cardio. Hey, John Jones is a light heavyweight. That's true, that's true. But I have a feeling that, like, Brady, especially early, like, he's definitely going to want to, like, I don't want to say, like, show off, like, everything, like, the type of player he is.

1:47:34But I think he's going to come out of the gates as fired up and wanting to initiate himself in the team. Earn your stripes. And the best way to do that is being playing hard, playing physical, producing, and then every once in a while. Beat the fuck out of someone. So I have a feeling the first time one of the guys on the team gets hit clean, but maybe hard, I have a feeling Brady's going to try to earn his stripes. That's a great way of putting it. Got to prove it.

1:48:02PFT Commenter:Do you guys have a favorite thing to say to someone when you know you want to fight them? Or are you just like, you want to go? What do you say? I think my favorite are the ones you don't say anything. It's like you just both know. You lock eyes? You lock eyes. It's like kiss or fight. You have like a, oh yeah. Mutual, it's just, you know. And I think those are my favorite. Yeah, you can't even explain that. You just both somehow like, both the wires are crossed. It's just, you know it's happening. It's on. But do people say you want to go? Oh yeah. You should tell us about that. I hear, like, let's go.

1:48:36And then, like, you're not going to say no because then you don't want to look like, no, it depends who it is. Right. You don't want to be like, no. I mean, you could say that to somebody that's, like, not good. But, like, if it's fair tradeoff or whatever, you're like, yeah, let's go. And then sometimes you catch them off guard, and then all of a sudden your gloves are off.

1:48:53Big Cat:I think Yan said his favorite was just saying, you want one? Yeah, you want one? You want one? You want one, yeah. You want one? Want to go? Let's go. Let's get the boys going. Yeah.

1:49:03PFT Commenter:Oh, someone says that? I think I used that last year. Oh, that's awesome. Let's get the boys fired up. You said that with Anders Lee, right? Yeah. Yeah. And it was funny because we did it the first time in Ottawa. And then we played a couple weeks later, like, one of our last games of the year for, like, the playoff push. And then he skates right up to me. He's like, same thing as last time, big boy. He's like, sounds good.

1:49:28Big Cat:Have you ever thought, like, this is going to get the boys going, and then it absolutely does not get the boys going? I mean, you could argue that that's what happened in playoffs. Stahl proceeded to win the Conn Smythe. But, I mean, my thought was, you know, we're playing against a powerhouse and try to set the tone. I feel like a fight, it doesn't even matter, like, who wins or loses. both teams are either fired up because their guy like won the fight and got everyone going and then the guy that doesn't it's like all right like now we're pissed off right i don't know it's yeah yeah you always get a positive something it's always mutual mutual mo like uh what do you call

1:50:07PFT Commenter:it momentum mutual momentum it's also yeah you just you just decide uh how it affected the game after the game's over like if you win you're like well it's because of the fight yeah if you lose you're like well we probably shouldn't have fought yeah morning quarterback yeah right exactly i have never played with and i've never played with someone or played in the situation like i remember playing in calgary once and we were up three nothing like early in a game on the road and one of the guys on the team got asked to fight and fought him and it was like awesome and like we still won the game but after that period guys were like going up to him being like hey like we had the momentum like don't do it i'm like fuck that like that was unreal yeah i don't amazing you didn't get momentum off that like i don't care if we're up three and three nothing and they scored the next show like yeah that was amazing so yeah i think i think that's looked into more from the outside like because of results than in the actual locker room you guys have specific guys in the league right now where you're like there's probably a good chance i'm gonna have to fight him i say more for me than him yeah who would it be i don't i can't be I can't because I'm there's a thousand yard stare you got right there someone who's like 5 '5".

1:51:19I'm just signing you up for a million fights this year. And all of a sudden I'm fighting 32 times a year. Here we go, this game, this game, this game. You just got to pick somebody small.

1:51:28Big Cat:Could you take Willie? I fought him before. We love him. He's a great player. I think he's a beast. Got a lot of respect for him. He's awesome. Are you going to have to go out of your way? Because obviously you guys are close being brothers. are you is there going to be like some bit of I don't want to say like you know like we were alluding to earlier like you want to let your teammates know like yeah he's my brother we're close but ultimately like this is about us as a team and not just his and my relationship do you yeah for sure like keeping are your lockers going to be next to each other no no we're we're spread out a little bit um like at olympics we weren't by each other we obviously roomed together that but I mean he's already saying like he's like when I'm down in Florida like don't be pissed off one day when I'm golfing with three of the boys.

1:52:13And I'm like, hey, I get it. You lost your spot. I think that's what I'm most excited about. Getting to know him, building relationships with all these guys that I know. It's going to be, of course, great doing it with him, but we're not going to be shoulder to shoulder all day, every day.

1:52:29PFT Commenter:You guys should shit talk each other. We should behind each other's back. Yeah, just shit talk. All your teammates are like, damn, they hate each other. I know our teammates at the Olympics thought we were nuts because of like the shit talking we would do to each other like in cards or in the locker room or whatever it was they're like these and like kind of just helps loosen everybody yeah i don't know it's the boys i guess also yeah you have proof that it works because you want a gold medal so i think that's why i think that's why we're really excited too because we're uh had success at the olympics proved that we actually played with each other like on the same line there so So prove that works.

1:53:06So just hoping for more success down in Florida because just need another chance at a championship.

1:53:11Big Cat:Yeah. All right. Golf game is probably going to get better in Florida, too. Yeah. Play more more often than before. So what is what's the goal for this week? Where do we want to finish this? I know you said you finished what, like 30th? Yeah, I want to finish. If I can finish, I mean, I look at top third as a goal, but somewhere somewhere around. Yeah. A number. I think there's 90 guys in the tournament, right? Top 30 would be awesome. Yeah. I just want to be positive points. You've got to be Charles Barkley. I'm strictly looking out for myself right now. I'm just positive points. It's hard, though.

1:53:43Like, everything in the hole is so tough. Yeah. And, like, staying in it mentally, and then you're waiting a lot. Like, it's – Two doubles a round. Yeah. That's what I'm looking at. Dude, we played the course. I thought you were talking about drinks. The greens are insane. That's a start to – That's two doubles a nine.

1:53:59PFT Commenter:The greens are insane, though. The greens are insane. Yeah. They're so fast. There was a couple holes where it was just, like, The hole was on a hill. It was like halfway down the hill. They just do such an amazing job. This course is in incredible shape. It's the best place on earth. The sun is always shining. It's nuts. All right. Thank you, boys. Everyone subscribe to the podcast. And we'll have you in the office when you come to Chicago this year. I love that. Show him around. I want him to do the gauntlet. Yeah, the gauntlet. Well, what was I? Not last year. It was the year before. Oh, because I was hurt last year.

1:54:33Yeah, the year before.

1:54:34PFT Commenter:Yeah, the year before he came by. What are the gauntlet sports? It's cornhole, soccer, baseball, football, three-point shot, three-point shot trivia. Maybe we've got to add hockey for you guys. Trivia? Yeah, trivia is not going to be strong. That's where they got me. No. I'm sure I'm going to be dialing on trivia. We've had some – listen, we've had some – I think at one point we had some guys from the Detroit Tigers come in, And one of the questions was like, name the six biggest cat species. And he just didn't get tigers. It was just like, what the fuck, dude? So, yeah, that happens to you guys.

1:55:09PFT Commenter:You don't get panthers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. All right. Well, thanks, boys. Appreciate it.

1:55:18PFT Commenter:Okay. We now welcome on a very, very special guest. We are live for the American Century Championship. It is Taylor Twelman. And he's going to talk some soccer with us. We also were just talking. Do we have to? yeah we have okay we have to all right let's just rip the band-aid off because we already taped some of the podcast and here's where i'm at with u.s soccer pft's in a little bit of a different spot pft's uh he he cares maybe a little bit more invested a little more i i love watching them yep i love you know getting behind my country um i'm now at a point where i just think we suck at soccer and that's okay yep and that's okay and it's not like we suck we're the worst team in the world it's we suck relative to the big boys where it's like hey the levels to this are insane and watching us get absolutely embarrassed by belgium who is not they're not a top five team no chance so like and that's not being disrespectful to belgium but they're right so i'm gonna root for them every time they're in the world cup every time we're in a big game i'm gonna root for them belgium or the u.s the u.s but i'm also gonna just go into it being like hey you know what soccer's not our sport so it's okay like we're gonna get to the round of 16 we're gonna lose and then i'm gonna be like i feel like this is an aa meeting this is going um dan to your point like it's yeah it's it goes against us as american right to accept that we're not even in the top three or four right you know like hockey wouldn't you know i mean it's big to win the gold medal we all celebrated it because it's not a given we're not number one but we're in the conversation right we have a seat at the table yeah it's very difficult for us as americans just to look at the men's program and say wow man we can't get in the final eight right we can't right like really in our own in our own country yeah in our own in that environment i know at seattle yeah that's gonna be the most difficult part for me and i was wasn't on the field, that has to be the most difficult part for them as well to look back five years, ten years.

1:57:30Unless, 2030, they do this miraculous run and they use it for motivation, but they'll still always go, what the hell happened in Seattle? Us three were together watching the game. Five minutes in, all three of us, including Marty Fish, who was with us, looked at each other and said, what is going on? Why are we so slow in trouble? Why are we sluggish? Why do we look like we're running in quicksand?

1:57:51Big Cat:So it was that first goal. Oh, my God. Hey, someone go step up. Even before that first goal where, I mean, we had freeze made a spectacular save. Matt Freeze had to make an unbelievable save. Otherwise, it was 1-0 two minutes in. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's to me. I keep going back and forth because I was I was very upset yesterday. I stormed out of the restaurant afterwards. I know what an Irish exit that was. I looked around going.

1:58:11PFT Commenter:Oh, well, it was it was. Can I just tell real quick? It was very funny because we independently. you were with your family and Marty Fish and his family. We were all of us together. We watched the game together. Then independently, we all just went to the same ice cream place. But we get to the ice cream place and you turn to your wife and you're like, just order me something. I got to make a video. And I look over like across the street and you're like underneath a tree, just ranting into your phone. I was like, oh, geez. That's right. That's what we do. It was so cathartic. It was SportsCenter and Yahoo.

1:58:45I did two hits and I look, you know, I'm like hats to shovel to the side. I look like I'm 14 beers deep. May or may not have been. Yeah, that's a tough one. Here's the thing that's it just it sucks. Yeah, it really sucks.

1:59:00Big Cat:I go back and forth between the sky is falling just mostly because I'm still pissed off about it. And then in my calmer moments, I think to myself, we played some really good soccer in this World Cup. objectively good entertaining soccer that we've never seen the United States do before. In what game other than Paraguay? Paraguay, I thought that we were good against Australia as well. I thought that first half against Australia. But my generation would have won that game against Australia in the same manner. Most likely. And Bosnia, we would have won that game too because it wasn't like this free-flowing attacking.

1:59:32I'm putting this seed in. I don't know if we did. I think Paraguay was really high level. Yeah. Sure. but 20 2002 we were beating Figo and Portugal three nil 20 minutes in yeah right so I don't know I don't know that answer is Paraguay an anomaly is that the barometer but I thought Portugal in 2002 was the barometer and then we flamed out in 2006 I don't know this answer right

2:00:01Big Cat:Portugal 2002 we did there was a lucky goal in that one too but you make your own luck we were attacking and the team i guess the team that that i saw yeah we had an own goal against paraba it's true we the team that i saw um attacking in like group stage and against bosnia i feel like that's a different style of soccer like more aggressive it gave me more reason to be optimistic about the future of the u.s men's national team and then what was so so shitty about the game last night was just the lackadaisical nature they they looked like they didn't care and to me looked like the moment was too big.

2:00:36Big Cat:Yeah, I think it's a combination of like they just because I think they cared. I think all three of us. I know what you're saying. No, the lights were too bright. They looked like they were afraid to, you know, play the same style of soccer that they were playing before. But let me throw something out. I firmly believe. So, let me say this. Do you think the Balogun News less than 36 hours before kickoff threw off the entire thing? I think it did, and I think it probably gave Belgium bulletin board material, too. Oh, no doubt. Where they're like, it is truly awesome. How about the goal celebrations after them?

2:01:08They're going like this. They're waving their hands. They're putting their hair into the... They knew there was too much talking.

2:01:13PFT Commenter:Well, and there's also, it's the vibes of the story going into the game is like, we lost our best player on a bad red card. where the underdogs, the feel-good story, and then it completely flips to America's the bad guys and everything. Yes. Yeah, I think it definitely had something to do with it. I also – you obviously know soccer so, so well. The Paraguay game, is that also game flow? Because Paraguay, you saw what they did against Germany where it's like what they want to do is they want to squeeze you to death. They want to play defense. They want to make it a 1-0 game, a 0-0 game. Us scoring so quickly, it's like, well, now they have to play our game.

2:01:50PFT Commenter:Absolutely. Now, it's a great observation. And that's where I think you're going with what your comment is about the sky isn't falling. Paraguay just wants to squeeze you. That's all they did in qualifying. They only gave up six goals. And that's Brazil, Colombia, Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, all of these. That's amazing. The United States punched them in the face. They couldn't recover. So game flow. It's a great observation. And that's what you're talking about. What I'm saying is, though, that wasn't sustained because Australia, solid win. But no generation before them doesn't win that game.

2:02:23It's the same type of game that we usually use to win. Fight them, work hard, do this. But Paraguay, there was an energy to the game that Paraguay was completely stone-faced like, who is this? The fact that they couldn't really do that against Bosnia raised my alarm bells a little bit against Belgium because I was like, hang on a minute, right? This is in San Francisco, a home game. Bosnia has no real chance of attacking where Paraguay did have a little bit more of that. I just, I'm not saying the sky is falling, but I feel like I do this every four years. Yeah, yep. And then we do the conversation about soccer being too expensive and all this stuff.

2:03:07It's like the rinse and repeat. You're like, dude, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over. I said that earlier in the podcast.

2:03:13PFT Commenter:else yeah and it's like and again it's not like i'm i'm rooting against the u.s i want us to do well but it's okay to just kind of put your hands up and be like hey we're always going to be the fourth or fifth sport and we're it's never going to be a priority as a country to be the best at soccer and this is what the result is going to be and that's why i think the loss in the manner that they did is so heartbreaking yeah right because i do believe and i've said this the entire tournament If they got to that quarterfinal to play Spain, I think this country, all of a sudden something clicks. And then you're the underdog.

2:03:47No one expects you to do anything. And then you're kind of more free. The expectation level was overwhelming for this group. And majority of that group plays at high level competition in Europe. That is the biggest surprise for me. Yeah. That is the big. When you're playing in Syria, the Bundesliga and the Premier League and all this, that round of 16 game, the whole reason 12 years ago when we lost to Belgium, we were talking about how do you get more experience of playing high-level competition? Guys, this generation has that. They had a worse result. They had a worse game. That's the heartbreaking and disingenuous feeling that I have of going, do we know what we're doing?

2:04:29Big Cat:Yeah, so we were favorites in that game too, which is crazy against Belgium. So this game, like this time around, Vegas thought that we were favorites. and I don't think that we should be favored.

2:04:39PFT Commenter:Oh man, I did. Oh no, I bet so much on the U.S. I bet on them too

2:04:44Big Cat:but if I'm being objective like we have never proven that like that's kind of uncharted territory for us to beat a ball team. True, but you got to think of what Vegas is looking at. They just played Senegal. Senegal completely outplayed them. U.S. beat Senegal. They're at home. Belgium played 30 extra minutes which by the way De Bruyne didn't even play. right Doku's off the bench Lukaku's off the bench it was brilliant for Rudy Garcia to play his youngest squad because I went into the game saying in the group states Belgium was the fourth oldest team in the World Cup not Naranda's 16 games yeah they played a completely different team they were running they were fighting they were motivated but I know what you're trying I know what you're saying like we weren't favored 70 30 but I thought we were at least 60 40 55 45 yeah Because of home field, because of the way the group stage.

2:05:38Our road's been easy. It was an easy road.

2:05:41Big Cat:Belgium was playing Egypt and other teams. We weren't. Yep. That game, 2014 against Belgium. That was – so in that game, like, we came away from that feeling a lot better about U.S. soccer as a program, I think. Yes. Than we are right now, which is I am kind of in like sky is falling. Do you think that Poch has proven that what he's tried to do is worthy of giving him another shot, try it again four years, or do you think that we should go in a different direction? Yeah, he didn't get enough time. So no matter – in my opinion, in order to fully observe and I would say objectively critique a national team, international manager, you have to have a full two years.

2:06:23He didn't even get that. Yeah. So to answer your question, if Poch wants to come back, then he, in my opinion, I want to see that. I want to see four years with him. Keep in mind, they've got to now qualify. Yeah. See, the problem with this whole thing was the last three and a half years felt like a waste. Yeah. Copa America was a complete debacle. There's no World Cup qualifying. The friendlies are hitter there. Gold Cup, you got your star players asking not to come in because they need a mental break. That's another thing we should talk about. And we should. But so to answer your question very shortly, yeah, if Pach wants to come back, sure.

2:06:55But knowing him, getting to know him, he is an everyday grind kind of guy. He's a club manager. So I don't know if this result leaves a real negative taste in his mouth that he doesn't want to do it. Or does it motivate him and say, give me four years with this group and then let me see what I can do?

2:07:12Big Cat:Yeah. OK, that's a fair answer. Now, to your earlier point that you alluded to, like Yelich. Yelich seems, and if you really need mental health breaks, people should take those mental health breaks. And you should take that space if you need it. But it does seem that Yelich has not, he doesn't have a passion for playing for the United States. It doesn't, for whatever reason, he doesn't ever seem like he's. You're talking Pulisic or no? Oh, I'm sorry. What did I say? You said Yelich. Yelich, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, Pulisic. Yelich plays for the Brewers? Yeah, I mixed up. No, that'd be amazing. If he ever wins a high-level degree, we have to eat.

2:07:42Big Cat:If you want to do that discussion, too, I could go on one of all these. Only if our best athletes played. I got my Croatians mixed up. But Pulisic, yeah. So he takes some time off. It never felt to me like he has the passion to play for the United States. It doesn't get him excited for whatever reason. And he's been anointed as being Captain America. We've talked about it, how he's like the future face of United States soccer. And it seems like it's just not working out. At what point do you say, if you're in charge of putting together the final roster, are like, you might be a very talented player, but we need guys that are going to demonstrate a passion for this and are going to be leaders to get everybody else fully invested.

2:08:25Big Cat:And it seems like you might not be that guy. Yeah, the general media is asking a lot of questions of Pulisic now, aren't they? And Yelich, yeah. Yeah, and Yelich too. If he can only hit the ball, I'm not letting him off the hook for this. I agree. Yelich, it's your fault we lost the Belgium. Listen, I was there when Christian was, I called his first game. I was introduced to him. I've gotten to know him. Failing to qualify for the 2018 World Cup really hurt Christian Pulisic. And I think that has changed the trajectory of him with the national team. You will never hear me say that he doesn't care playing for the red, white, and blue.

2:09:03I know he does. The problem is he doesn't want to be that guy. Right. he doesn't he thrives when he's your third attacker for Milan and then he's one of the best right but what we're not talking about is none of us can be surprised that Pulisic had a bad World Cup when from January 1st to the beginning of World Cup camp he had zero gold contributions after six months where he led Serie A in gold contributions that is 180 degrees difference yeah that is black and white that is completely opposite so i don't know what happened we know publicly that he broke up with his longtime girlfriend i don't know if that's it if personally he's going through something if he's tangling with do i go back to england because tottenham and manchester united and these teams are sniffing do i go to mls because an ml there's three mls teams that are willing off from 60 70 million to go back so i don't know but the last six months for Christian Pulisic were opposite of what Balogun was.

2:10:08And so coming into the world cup, I thought the Senegal game would just bring it back to him and it would come and the injury in the Paraguay game really scared. It looked like it scared him. Yeah, it did. Didn't it? Like it just looked like he lost his mojo because of 45 minutes against Paraguay. He was really good. Yeah, he was, he was creating every time he touched the ball. He was unbelievably good. Even without the ball, his runs were awesome. um yeah this one's weird yeah it's weird and he's gonna have to ask and deal with that listen when you're put on the mantle it's a it is what it is yeah and you're judged by in critical moments in big games yeah that's a tough one the only thing i'll say about christian politic against belgium is he was not the only one that didn't deliver that plays at a big club and that should have been at a higher level yeah he wasn't but he didn't do what he needed to do and that's where this one becomes really interesting.

2:11:04He's got a target on his back now.

2:11:07Big Cat:Yeah, yeah. The Gold Cup thing, can I just say something? Because I wasn't with you guys and we didn't talk about it. I just don't understand why the messaging and how he portrayed it to the public. That was really mismanaged. Yeah, he needs just a friend to run stuff by. Because whenever he gives an interview, he's like, yeah, you know, it's just another tournament. We're talking about like the World Cup. It's like you got – if you're doing an interview, if you're talking media, you have to at least put on a face and act like you really truly did. I'm so glad you brought up that comment. By the way, everyone in the world, if you've got a half a brain, we know it's not just a tournament.

2:11:39So that actually told me he's nervous about the tournament. There's pressure. See, I've always been told embrace the pressure because it almost takes your anxiety down. You're like, yeah, man, this is a big tournament. Here's the World Cup. What do you want me to do? I'm going to do my best. It's just another tournament I'm trying to play. Then after the game, weird comment about the ankle. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I kind of sprained my ankle. Christian, you came out of a World Cup game down. Right. It can't just be an ankle. It can't. Right. Yeah. Not to the fans, not to your teammates, not to anyone.

2:12:14It can't.

2:12:14Big Cat:So I couldn't agree with you more. The messaging, it's a little weird. Yeah. It's all strange. We can zoom out and talk a little bit more about soccer as a whole and the World Cup as a whole. Today, what happened with Argentina? Are you Messi or Ronaldo guy? Messi. All right, good. We can proceed. Just absolutely insane. People are going to be upset about the VAR being used. They brought it in. From 100 yards away. It was one of the best goals I've ever seen. It was unbelievable. Absolutely incredible goal. For those of you listening and watching, you got to go watch it. The goal that was taken back was unbelievable.

2:12:51Big Cat:At what point does FIFA step in and say, hey, VAR is a great tool. Well, let me, it's like, we're, we're losing control of Skynet right now. Let me ask you guys a question because I'm going to reverse it, but same topic. Does it drive you nuts the way American football has turned into regarding the catch?

2:13:07PFT Commenter:Yes. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. What are we doing? Here's what I don't understand about VAR. And you can tell me this is the dumbest thing ever for soccer. I get it. Offsides, you need the rule. Everyone's like, oh, there should be no offsides. Why can't it just be where your feet are? Yeah. No. Like, the thing that drives me nuts is when it's, like, in offsides and the guy's feet are completely onside. But it's his shoulder. But his shoulder or his arm or, like, his hand is dangling. That has no outcome. The spirit of the rule is you can't get behind the defender. If your elbow is behind the defender, that does not change how you're playing soccer.

2:13:43Big Cat, I could not agree with you more. And I bet you a million dollars that after this World Cup, there will be real consideration of Arsene Wenger and his idea of offside of being daylight between the defender i like that i do i like that because what bothers me and we can thank the premier league for ruining var my pinky was offside

2:14:04PFT Commenter:missed me with right yeah like what are we doing lukako's dick was off that actually did i was actually gonna say it's like circumcising mosquito right now what we're doing it's crazy really where are we going with this yeah the croatio goal was bullshit like that was that's just spirit of the sport he was not it did all three of us watch that goal okay and we have six eyeballs i still have not seen the ball turn differently right but the chip in the ball said it hit his hair right and it spiked up and you're like i've watched the video with my eyes i don't see it i hope far has been exposed for certain things and i wish american football this des ryan complete the catch thing it guys i don't like well you know what it is it's we were i was saying what it was like it was it was that one year that after the saints uh rams nfc championship game where they're like yeah we're gonna make pass interference reviewable it's like why this is gonna be brutal it's it's a bad watch now we all know gambling is more than likely the reason behind it var is really really important for 2010 frank lampard scored a goal for england ball hit underside of the bar went all the way completely behind the line ref and linesman didn't see it goal doesn't count that is why we need var yeah we need var to expose offside we need to change the offside law the red cards whoa yeah well this tournament's been really interesting to me because in mls we don't have this dissecting certain things it's got to be clear and obvious for you to rescind something yeah or give something and i think this tournament's exposed it i just hope fifa doesn't bury their head in the sand and say no it's fine it is what it is it's also like they're being a ref is hard the human element should be part of it should be part of the game you know what i mean where it's like you can't review every little play i'm a massivest louis cards fans right 1985 world series yeah god bless his soul yeah like that umpire that moment like it's it's a human element right part of you know nowadays we would have had a world series yeah is it is it

2:16:17Big Cat:crazy to say there should be two refs that's a lot of ground for it's been discussed one ref to cover like i know they're running the diagonal system and all that so they're trying to get the assistant referees you know in one corner you got the assistant no it's been discussed but like that's a big ass field i feel like we could have two and in basketball we have multiple refs and football we've got like half the guys on the field are referees well no the soccer purist would tell you right now well we have three refs and you're like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa hang on a minute the assistant referees their goal in the game they go into the game making sure they're in line with the last defender their whole goal is offside that's all they care about right yeah adding a second ref and each ref does each half yeah okay there's an there's an intriguing part to that because you can then say well the ref goes against the attacking team one half defending team the other half so there's going to be no like playing favorites or anything like that right I think there's value to it.

2:17:16Now, there's not value to it, I would argue, against myself. On the point is, well, VAR is supposed to protect that. My issue is this. If you have VAR or instant replay in any sport and you still can't get calls right, we've got a problem. Yeah. We've got a problem. You're over-officiating.

2:17:33Big Cat:If you referee everything to the letter of the law, if you had VAR in NFL and everything was up to this sky judge, you could call a penalty for holding on it. No, they're holding on every single play. You have to let them play at some point.

2:17:46PFT Commenter:It's the NBA when we started to get a little bit out of it. But the fact that we would just spend five minutes seeing if it glanced off someone's pinky. And it's like, just call it. Just call the game. Call the game. Call the game.

2:17:59Big Cat:All that said, this World Cup has been awesome. So I know that we've just basically been saying all the things that we're frustrated about right now. But it's been an incredible World Cup. No, but I'd argue the last 30 minutes we just talked is growth of this thing. Yeah. I do think that, listen, you guys and your listeners and your viewers, they intelligently talk the game now. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. We say a lot of dumb stuff. Dude, I say dumb stuff and I'm supposed to be an expert. It happened. But my point is, it is more mainstream than we've ever had it. In the conversation, in the discussion, I got a massive argument.

2:18:32TSA pre-agent was so upset about a VAR call in a Morocco game. And he wouldn't let me go by him. I was like, dude, my flight leaves in 20 minutes. You're right. That's good. And secretly, I got on the plane. I was like, that was the coolest thing.

2:18:45PFT Commenter:No, because if you have people complaining about stuff, that means they care. If they don't complain, then they're just not watching and they don't care. Yeah.

2:18:53Big Cat:Even though half the country's lost their mind about the whole Caitlin Clark thing. We're talking about the WNBA way more. So I do think, yeah, there's people pulling you aside. They have lost their brains on the Caitlin Clark thing. It's crazy. What are we? Holy shit. So we're loving the World Cup. I'm loving the penalty kicks. I love – Big Cat and I both love the penalty shootout. Okay, so I got a question for both of you. Would you rather be the goalie or the taker? Taker. I'd bury it every time. Perfect. I just wanted that sound bite. They both said taker. Yeah. Thank you. And which number penalty would you want to take?

2:19:29I want to go first. I'd want to go third. Okay. Why first?

2:19:33PFT Commenter:Because I want to set the tone. I like that. Why third? because you're like kind of somewhere in there where people don't really remember. If you made – like there's still time left, but also it could be a significant one. Yep. I would not want to be first or fifth. Absolutely not. So the story is – and I want to keep this going because I think your listeners will appreciate it. The story is your best penalty taker always takes one. And I always wondered, okay, but any kind of sports psychologist will tell you the biggest you-know-what and the guy that wants the pressure is four or five. Yeah.

2:20:06Big Cat:Yeah.

2:20:06PFT Commenter:Because that person needs – Yeah, that's a high leverage.

2:20:08Big Cat:It's like a reliever. Those are the levered spots. I mean, I don't know. But one sets the tone. Always has, always will. I'm not a math guy, but I feel like it's like in baseball, you want your best hitter to lead off. Right? I know that traditionally in baseball it's been a little bit different where you've had your best hitters hitting three, four, four, five. Did you know right now there's only 18 guys in major leagues that are hitting over 275? I saw a clip. What are we talking about?

2:20:30PFT Commenter:I saw a clip the other day on Instagram. This is a side tangent. It's a home run or strike out? I saw a clip the other day where it was just introducing the NL all-star team from like 99. Every guy was hitting like 360. It was so nuts to see. It was like jarring. Like Tony Glenn right now would be a pinch hitter. Yeah. It was jarring to see.

2:20:50Big Cat:What's crazy is like in the penalties with Germany, they were having discussions about who's going to take the next one. I feel like that's something that they should have probably sorted out. Guys, we had three legit players for them decline to take a penalty. Yeah, that's crazy. How does that happen?

2:21:06PFT Commenter:I don't know. I don't know. I've lived this. I'd make sure I declined well in advance. Yeah. So take me out of the game. We're laughing, but Dan brings up your point. Shouldn't you have already talked about this in training? Correct. But you make subs things happen. All I'm going to say is, and I lived it. I lived it in 2006 MLS Cup. we had two players two really good players say they didn't want to take a penalty that's crazy and i sat there and i was like and it really guys it it truly made me one of the most mad i've ever been because i i have so much more respect for you if you raise your hand you want to take it you miss it you will always i will always get your back for sure because you stepped up but you don't want to take it so now every time you think of that that those three germans yeah so So then Jonathan Ta, who apparently, full disclosure from his teammates, raises his hand and goes, I'll 100 % take one.

2:21:59Well, good. I want my guy to take one. Yeah. Now it's one of the worst penalties I've ever seen. Yeah. Okay.

2:22:03PFT Commenter:Yeah. How does that happen, by the way? How do you sky it? It's unreal. How do you hit it? It just happened with Columbia and Switzerland. I don't understand how you missed a goal that bad. Last year at the American Century Championship, I have an eagle chip. never ever have i bladed it in my life yeah and i skull you know what the hell out of that ball across the green to the other side i look at my gun i go it's pressure yeah jonathan todd's probably taken a hundred penalties in his life and never hit one over the goal it comes down to the round of 32 he's got to make it to stay and he hits it literally adam vinatieri hadn't kicked the ball that high right like he legitimately hit that 30 rows into the stands i just don't understand i guess the part i don't understand pressure makes sense but like these guys are so good if you just put it in low low corner high corner like it's almost impossible i think if you just hit it really strong yeah hard the goalie's gotta really come up with a big save right they have to guess right but i took a penalty once it was in dortmund and it's called the yellow wall and behind the goal it's 30 000 35 000 and everybody's dressed in yellow That goal, that is a big goal when I'm there for practice, that goal looked at this spot.

2:23:18You know what I mean? And I just think pressure makes it and everything comes in. The other part is Paraguay goalie on cleats, he's 6 '10". With cleats on, he's 6 '10". So then he goes like this, and Jonathan probably looks at the goal and says, where am I going with this thing?

2:23:33PFT Commenter:I'm going to roof it. Messi got one saved on him today. Messi's four penalties in the World Cup. Not this World Cup, but in his career.

2:23:40Big Cat:No, he's not a great one. Did you ever take the old MLS style penalty? No. Where it was like the shootout thing where you dribbling. My head is so low. I would have been like a bobblehead and tripped over my own feet. I would love to do that in our all-star game. Yeah. I'd love to see the current players try to do that. Yeah. That was a wild time. Dude, you got five seconds. The whistle blows. The goalie can bum rush you. Yeah. And you got five seconds to shoot it.

2:24:05PFT Commenter:Yeah. That rocks. So, Messi. I mean, it's insane what he's doing. Guys, it's unreal. I saw a clip go viral a couple weeks ago where the announcer was saying this is probably his last World Cup. In 2018, they were saying that. He's won a World Cup, and he's leading the goal scorers in this year's World Cup. Is it just that he's – because his game was never about athleticism that he's able to do it this late? Where it's just – it's always been his touch, the way he sees the game, the angles. Is that why he's able to do it? His brain is next level. I will tell you this because it's been a true pleasure to follow him.

2:24:42And I've done 80 some odd percent of his games in MLS with Inter-Miami. And I'll tell you, there's two things that stand out to me. I've never seen anyone more competitive. Like he's accomplished everything in his life. And he's going up against the Colorado Rapids and he wants to beat their brains in. Like legitimately embarrass them. So I'm sitting there thinking, this guy's different. Way different. The other part is, and everybody talks about it, he walks a lot. Yeah. He walks with such a purpose. It really screws the opposition's brains. Right. So like this, he's still walking. And then all of a sudden he's floating around.

2:25:22And you know, I made this analogy. It's kind of a weird one, but I'm going to go with it. You know, when you're sitting on a summer night and the lake and the lake water is really still. And there's this fly that bounces off the water. if you think about Messi's career he's never really been tackled that hard yeah if you think about it he's never been like Barcelona Argentina even Miami he's got such a sixth seven cents of where everybody else is that he dodges a lot of trouble yeah like look at that run he didn't score today against Egypt but that run he went through no he did score no I'm saying he didn't score on the goal that was there dude it was unbelievable yeah and I'm like he's 39 yeah It's unreal, but he's the most competitive guy I've ever met.

2:26:03All right, so I got a question off that.

2:26:06PFT Commenter:Holland has been insane. He's a breakout star. I think a lot of people who watch EBL obviously knew who he was. Yeah, but the general public did, so you're 100 % right. But he does the same thing where he's walking. That clip is so cool. If you haven't seen it, his header goal against Brazil, where he actually looks like he's disinterested in the game, like looks down while the ball is being played to the side breathing yeah and he was setting up the defender and then it's just it's just boom out of nowhere he's now sprinting to a spot heading the ball in what is that like how does that work i don't understand how guys are able to do that first off big bear great question um when i was 21 england great played in the world cup in 82 i became he was our assistant coach um with the revs his name was paul mariner he looked at me He goes, you run too much.

2:26:56I was playing number nine. And I'm thinking, you know, first off, I think my shit doesn't stink. I just literally scored 30 goals the year before. I'm like, what are you talking about? I'm buzzing around. I'm going to run everybody to death. He goes, you run too much. So we would watch tape, and he would show me guys, the highest level, that they would bait the defender. So Holling and Messi are two completely different players. But they're doing the same thing to the opposition. They want to lull you to sleep. They want to just get there. And then when they have to turn it on, that defender, it's no different than a cornerback in the NFL.

2:27:33He's going to be caught flat-footed, right, because he's slowing down. And Holland does it brilliantly in that clip. The clip's unbelievable. I put it on my Instagram because it's so focused on him and he's walking and the defender's doing this. And the defender goes like this and he's gone. Yeah. So even I was told at 22, 23, dude, stop running. because it's easier for a defender to react because you're buzzing and he just follows you. You got to get him to stop and then go. Just separation. Yes. Now, Messi, at his heyday, was the quickest player on the field, hands down. He was. When I played against him, he was wearing, I think, he wasn't even wearing 10 yet for Argentina.

2:28:12It was 2007, Copa America, and he had this aura around him. But what I noticed, and he was, what, 18, 19 at the time, what I noticed was the moment he wanted to turn it on, He blew by it in two or three seconds. Erling Haaland and Mbappe, over 60, 70 yards, they can outrun. And that's why when Americans go, well, the best athletes. Dude, our sport, like, we've got really good athletes. Chris Richards is an absolute stud of an athlete.

2:28:41PFT Commenter:It's more than that. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, Haaland's a perfect example. He's an incredible athlete. But it's the fact, like, the art of finishing a goal, like that takes like harry kane is the same way yeah harry kane's like okay he's not you know the best player he's not like lighting it up athletically wise but he can he knows how to yes put the ball in the back of the net it's a craft yeah it really is a craft do you think

2:29:05Big Cat:if i were to give you odds on uh france or the field at this point who are you taking france i would have taken france before the tournament they're so good and they're so deep it's they could have three teams in the world cup and all three would be in the round of 16 yeah they're that good um what is it about them they do an unbelievable job developing their so if you look at the senegalese algeria morocco france if you look at all of those players in this world cup france had a a a touch and like i want to say 80 it might be a little less on all of them in development wow so there's something about france where they develop the masses and then they throw they're fishing net out and see who wants to come and then the other ones go play for other countries we got to start doing that yeah dude we we gotta do more you're 100 correct yeah i'm telling you there's some value to thinking let's just develop everybody in the united states yeah and if they want to go play for bosnia or mexico so what but at least it gives us the better odds of having three west and mckinney's yeah france is insane you think about zinedine zidane could have played for Algeria.

2:30:14His son is playing goalkeeper for Algeria. Their development is they are as athletic as any team in the world. Maybe more athletic, but tactically and technique-wise, they're at the next level. I wrote the list out. Top 10 best attacking players in the world. France has three of them. It's crazy. Olisse, Dembele, and Mbappe. And you could argue Olisse is probably top six. So they have three of the top six. That's insane. Yeah, they've been dominant.

2:30:44Big Cat:So if it's not France, who would it be? I think we're going to a repeat, guys. I do. I think it's France against Argentina. Really? I think France will play in their third straight World Cup, which is I think only Brazil with Zico did it. Maybe Italy. I'm not positive. And then I think Messi and Argentina, I just think the stars are aligned. Cape Verde, Egypt, I just feel like they're finding ways to get out of it. But when they meet in the final against France, I just feel like France is going to be a difficult test for them. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that would be an insane. I mean, Argentina now plays Switzerland.

2:31:22Yeah. Switzerland to beat Colombia in penalties. That's a little bit of an upset. Colombia should have won that game. They didn't. It's just like Argentina kind of has this field set up where it's like, boom, we're in the final.

2:31:35Big Cat:Yeah. And then with Brazil, what's wrong with Brazil? They lost their aura. Yeah. How? I was in the bag. I was in the building 2014. The bus got small. They lost to Germany 7-1 at home. That was it? You would have thought it was the funeral of the entire nation. Yeah. 7-1, guys. So there used to be this feeling, and I played against Brazil, I want to say three or four times. When you walked out and you saw yellow, blue, and white, you immediately needed to change your underwear because you're like, I'm going to be running my ass off defending this entire game. They're them. Right. Dude, they haven't had that since 14.

2:32:11No. None of it. They don't play beautiful anymore. No, they play scared. They play samba music in the stadium. And I'm watching a team. They had 38 % possession and lost to Norway. Yeah. Okay? Statistically, since that stats, that's the lowest Brazil's ever had in a World Cup knockout round game.

2:32:31PFT Commenter:And they were scared. They had chances. Of course. I mean, they missed penalties. But still, you're Brazil. Right. Samba meant you knock it around you move around oh it drives me it's a loss for the world game I'm going to tell you that right now because they're the number one country in the world in exporting professional players still to this day there's no country that produces professional players like Brazil but they don't have any of that

2:32:55Big Cat:what we used to love it's boring so if you were to just kind of map out how the next couple weeks are going to look what is going to be the heartbreaking moment for England

2:33:08PFT Commenter:you kind of said it earlier it doesn't sound like it's coming home I was rooting for them against Mexico because I thought it was too early for them to be out I wanted them to be out later and I hate Mexico yeah right but I was like my rival so but I also was just like this just feels the round of 16 and they were awesome like that doesn't feel right for English heartbreak we don't know no totally the jadedness of the fan yeah they can't lose it yeah they got it they got it got to come in a deeper heartbreaking fashion.

2:33:36Big Cat:They have to fully believe again. And then once at that moment where they fully believe that it's coming home, they will realize that it is not. I mean, right now they're playing Norway in the quarterfinal. Yeah. There's no way they lose that game, is there? Yeah, that might be it. You know what I mean? Might be it, yeah. Think about it. Erling Haaland has literally ate every defender in the Premier League's lunch for the last three years for Man City. You might be right. Yeah. You might be right. Could that be the moment? Yeah. That's it right there. My professional soccer pin, I think England beats them.

2:34:08I think they're a better team than Norway overall. I do too. But Norway's got something going that it's hard to match. And they remind me. Fans rowing the boat. Yes. They remind me a lot of 94 Sweden. And that team went to the semifinal in 94. There was an aura with that Swedish team. Norway's got something going right now. And their goalkeeper's been fantastic. He's not getting enough credit because Erling Haaland, everything he touches hits the back of the net. Yeah.

2:34:30PFT Commenter:But their goalkeeper is brilliant against Brazil. Brilliant. Yeah. All right, Taylor, this has been awesome. I got one last question, Roback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE, 20 % off your first purchase, Q-Zips, Polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, Roback.com. All right, back to this tournament that you're about to play in, American Century Championship. Last year, I saw you because I stayed for the weekend, and I saw you on Saturday after your round. You were tied for first. Yep. Can you win it? Win it. Yes. So what happened on Sunday? Real simple. hole give me a minute hole four i had a 14 foot eagle putt and it rimmed out that goes in i have a five point lead four point lead um and joe having played with joe numerous amount of times joe's a gamer joe could double the first hole like he did last year and he will put his bootstraps on and he'll dig in but that would have been a nice little yeah right and then two holes later i had eight foot for birdie and the same thing it rimmed out and came back to me and that's when i was like okay so you're gonna test me this way right the thing i'm most proud about was even after those two holes i still got to a hole 14 or 15 with a lead right then the wheels came off i shoot one over joe shoots three under boom it's over so i just i hit whatever number of greens i hit i think it was like 48 in a row big bear i just got to make putts yeah i got to make putts i got to make putts you got to make putts here dude you guys played this course the other day it's i think i hit a green you got to you have to make putts yeah you have to yeah i know i mean i hit i i hit my best shot on the par three was eight seven and uh then i four putted he's got a five yes you have to make putts yeah and that's the thing so there's there's about eight nine really good sticks that can flip it up turn it turn it up but again it's pressure you've got to show up and the one thing i haven't done a good enough job is pars are fine you need them you're better off making birdies and bogeys if you want to win yeah but if you want to just compete and be in the final group make your par shoot two under one under whatever it is but that's where the marty fish is john smoltz like john smoltz last year 31 on the back or whatever the number was yeah he just flipped it up yeah right so that's what you honestly in order to win it

2:37:05Big Cat:that's what you have to do all right who can win it so smoltz uh marty can win it yes pavelski Joe Pavelski, Steph Curry. Steph Curry for sure. Who else can win? Jake Owen is a sneaky good stick. Can Romo win it? Romo absolutely can.

2:37:21PFT Commenter:Yeah. Romo, and I love you, buddy, but you're probably on the range right now doing a million different exercises. Romo will hit 7 ,000 balls. But Romo absolutely can. But it just comes down to Sunday, who makes putts and who doesn't. Yeah. And that's really what it comes down to. You cannot win it on Friday, which I've learned, but you can lose it on Friday if you don't just stay the course and make birdies, but make your pars and just get points. Yeah, yeah. No doubles and you stay the course. When do you find out who you're playing with on Friday? Honestly, I'm so wrapped up at other side. I never know, but the email or text comes Thursday.

2:38:01Okay. But I asked this year, I said, if the United States beats Belgium, I would really like the first tee time. So you might still get it. I can watch it. So I don't know. I might have the first tee time. And they're like, yeah, let's just give it to him anyways. Because obviously I wanted to watch that game. And that would have been right at like 12. So you're the jinx. I'm the jinx. Yeah, maybe the stars are aligning for you to win this year. No, it's great.

2:38:22Big Cat:That's awesome.

2:38:22PFT Commenter:Let's not talk about Trump or the president. You're the jinx. Taylor Twill. All right. Well, Taylor, boys, this was awesome. We love having you on. And best of luck this tournament. And Yellich sucks. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck Yellich.

2:38:33Big Cat:Piece of shit. You're afraid to compete in the home run derby. Oh, man. okay let's wrap it up guys on chill henry this is actually a great one uh yeah is it chill to not give a fuck about sports until the playoffs nfl and college football are my exceptions i admit i get rock hard on the pigskins on my tv but nba mlb college basketball seem like such a drag to watch the regular season but when playoffs roll around i get very invested in love the storylines in conclusion make regular seasons mean something again i don't in the conclusion i don't regular seasons there's just sports where i think it's okay for some people to like watch every game of and but the people that watch every game of every sport like that's a lot i think it's i enjoy watching the playoffs of like baseball and hockey yeah i'll watch every playoff game of any team the regular season i'm not like i just am not a person that's going to be like i'm watching every

2:39:27PFT Commenter:regular season game it is it's more fulfilling if you're invested all season and then you're like all right now we're in the play like if you see the ups and downs of a baseball season and then you get to playoffs but yeah i mean getting older and like realizing maturity is like you don't have to watch every single game of every single thing to be like hey i like this sport i like this team

2:39:48Big Cat:also sometimes life gets in the way like it's it's tough if you want to be like a diehard baseball fan watch every game you basically have to just that's all you do in the summertime is like your

2:39:59PFT Commenter:schedule revolves around baseball but there is there is like like the the cubs for example this year are actually hilarious you know the most schizophrenic team i can remember a long time in the fact that they've had that they had two 10 game winning streaks they had a 10 game losing streak they have last week they scored 22 runs on wednesday and then lost 17 to 1 on friday it is fun to like experience the absolute roller coaster and get into like a mindset where it's I'm not going to freak out about any result the Cubs have day-to-day because they make no sense, and that part is actually fun.

2:40:33But the World Cup, for example, it's chill to just hop on the bandwagon for a couple weeks. I think in cities and stuff, it's like, yeah. When your city's team is in the playoffs, it's like, all right, I'm watching every game in the playoffs. Yeah. I think it's chill. I think it is chill. I've always thought taking a nap on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon with golf on the TV, backgrounds 1-1 of ideal nap situations, Wanted to get your take on the perfect nap. Looks like love the show. You guys are the best.

2:41:00Big Cat:I mean, yeah, that's the classic nap. We done Mount Rushmore. Best naps. I think we might have.

2:41:05PFT Commenter:I think we have. Best times to fall asleep. Perfect nap is like early or springtime or fall. Windows open. Game on. Little fall asleep on the couch. Get like the fresh air coming in. Fall asleep. And then like it's the really perfect nap is like a Saturday afternoon falling asleep at like maybe a couple minutes left in the first half of the afternoon window. And then waking up like halfway through the third quarter and and being like, all right, let's go. Like we got, you know, 25 games finishing right now. That's a beautiful map. I also like the post Thanksgiving nap at about like five or six p.m.

2:41:49Big Cat:Had a few glasses of wine. Belly's full. right before then you wake up and you get the you get the leftover sandwich that's a pretty

2:41:58PFT Commenter:good nap too windows open though it's nothing like right after a long beach day like day in the sun golf right after golf yeah but like beach beach and then waking up and it's still like ready for dinner like yeah like yeah but you also have to time it correctly because there's nothing worse than than doing the nap where you sleep too much and you and you wake up and you're like what fucking time is it where am i i slept too much it's like that that nice like 20 minute i i feel like if i go longer than like 30 minutes i get fucked up the road trip nap is also nice too because it feels like you teleported yeah like oh we've got like three hours and next season's oh 15 minutes and then we're there hank loves that one i do my naps now are just gonna be how long can i those are those are like those are naps out of necessity like yeah not really comfort for my name is the best sleeper of all yeah by far he got super seasick on one on a boat last week and at one point we just lost him and he actually just passed out like for like a good

2:42:55Big Cat:30 minutes of this boat trip his body just deactivated yeah you're basically my three-year-old

2:43:01PFT Commenter:we went on a boat last week and my three-year-old just laid down on the floor of the boat and just napped for 20 minutes this is the hank move i thought it was one of those things he was like i'm seasick and then he went to like another part part of the boat and his eyes were closed obviously because he was sleeping but i thought he was like oh shit he's really going through it he like yeah he like needs to close his eyes and i talked to him after he's like oh no i was just asleep like pass out that love that love that also my naps now are just how long can i fall asleep until my kids find me and they always find me fast what's up fellas i'm 27 i've been playing men's league baseball for the last two years.

2:43:37I ran D1 track, but also played football and baseball growing up. My men's league is really competitive with a lot of former college players and so organized that they have historical stats going back 20 years. I'm closing in on the stolen base record in a season. This league sounds like the worst, by the way. Hold on, though.

2:43:57PFT Commenter:I want to hear about this because I agree with you, Max, but unless everyone has opted in. How do I be more chill in men's league is there any way to be chilling men's league baseball do i go for the record anything else get in a different league but but in a weird way if everyone is opted into like taking it super seriously and taking and keeping records then you're signing up it's the the problem with like the rec sports is when you show up and there's just one team that's just taking it way more seriously than everyone else like if these guys are just super hardos and they're like this is our super hardo league god bless them but it sounds like this guy is not he might not because the way that he's asking this question.

2:44:36He's like, this is a league that they take way too seriously, and I'm finding myself also taking it too seriously, and I don't like what I'm becoming. And you know what? You're right, buddy. You don't like what you're becoming because men's league baseball steals and men's –

2:44:53PFT Commenter:He's got it. Yes. But can we all agree he's got to go for the record? Has to go for the record. Has to go for the record. You're closing in on it. You already are a douchebag. Get the record. I also like that he's acknowledging what he's doing. But he has to get this record. But you got to get the record. Because actually, that's actually the least chill thing, is to take it so seriously and not get the record. Yeah. Then you're the biggest loser of all time. Because at least if you're like, yeah, I take my men's league super seriously. Oh, yeah, and by the way, I'm the Ricky Henderson of the league.

2:45:20PFT Commenter:Then everyone will be like, okay, cool. That's sick, dude. Steals in a men's league is like, that's not even something you ever bring up. Even if someone asks you.

2:45:29Big Cat:It would be funny, though, if it went even harder. If this league, like there was a fantasy league that people could like follow along and have players from this super hard-o team and like compete against each other. Oh, I got this guy. He's racking up the steals this year. I'll never forget that season.

2:45:46PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right. Last one. Bartender here. Any advice on remaining chill behind the bar? Chill levels are high to start the night, but after a few hours, chill levels can be severely depleted as you expect dealing with drunks all night. everyone loves a chill bartender so the chiller i am directly correlates to the level of tips i get help a brother out also i know pft is just going to say there's an easy solution to this just get drunk that's not really an option so any other ideas would be much appreciated okay that was my

2:46:13Big Cat:suggestion um maybe just have if you just have like some fake whiskey people like it when you take shots with them at the bar true so you can pour yourself like a fake shot when you see a group of people doing a shot then it looks like you're drinking with them they'll give you big

2:46:27PFT Commenter:tips i like that idea that's a good idea um i i i don't really know what else like smoke breaks just use your smoke breaks or just smoke wisely job yeah get some cool visors yeah get some cool visors maybe smoke some weed do some coke i don't know i don't really know Like it's a really hard job to be a bartender after like being around drunk people that much by the end of the night has to be so grating and so like hard to deal with. So I think it's really just, yeah, get really drunk with them.

2:47:09Big Cat:I feel like he's right. I feel like we're all also like overdosing on gas fumes right now.

2:47:15PFT Commenter:Yeah, it's fine. I like the smell of gas. Yeah. It's pretty good. It is good. It's good. It's really good. All right, you want to do numbers, random generator? Let's do it. Random number generator. 17. 12. 16. Zach, would you like to make a prediction for how you do tonight on your cooking? Zach is doing our annual Zach Grills for the whole squad night. How are you feeling? I feel good about it. I got some reps in at this point. I feel like I can put together a decent meal. Yeah, I think you've done it, what, two or three times, so it's more than annual. I think twice. Last time they caught us on a grill that may have had a lot of...

2:47:58Airbnb grill had a lot of stuff at the bottom of it. We had a little bit of a fire. I'm going to make sure to clean out the grill even better this time so we can avoid flames.

2:48:04PFT Commenter:Yeah. Alright. 50. Ready? 44. 36. Anyone say 36? You don't want to win these. 36. Yeah, these are Mickey Mouse. Zach, you're bleeding. Yeah, I was going to get a bandaid after this. I pick at my cuticle sometimes So I rip one I would love to help Zach with the meal One of these years No It's better for Zach to just He can handle it We can have a real good family meal He can do this It would be elevated I can do a pasta salad You can't go outside Deal You can't go outside That's fine You can do anything you want You're going to make us bread, bread boy? No, I'm bad at making bread Which is crazy Because you make it all the time Well, according to me

2:49:04Big Cat:Happy birthday to Robbie Fox Good guy Robbie Fox And OJ Simpson

2:49:10PFT Commenter:Bad guy OJ Simpson

2:49:12Big Cat:And Alec Engle

2:49:13PFT Commenter:Any missed memes? Trying to find some

2:49:17Big Cat:Striking out memes striking out this embarrassing memes memes

2:49:22PFT Commenter:you got any? no Kevin Bacon Kevin Bacon has been on the show good one

2:49:31Big Cat:love you guys

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