In short
Recap of the 2024 U.S. Open at Shinnecock, focusing on Wyndham Clark’s controversial “heel” behavior and eventual win; debate about why the crowd hated him (including locker-room damage and other incidents); discussion of USGA weather/fog-delay “luck” and course setup; then World Cup talk about the U.S. men’s team’s strong start and bracket expectations; plus lighter segments like “Mount Rushmore” deli meats and “Who’s Back of the Week.”
Guests (backgrounds)
- Max Homa: PGA Tour golfer; joins to break down what happened at Shinnecock and the U.S. Open.
- George Kittle: NFL tight end for the San Francisco 49ers; discusses TEU (his upcoming event/initiative) and joins for sports/world topics.
Key claims
- The crowd at Shinnecock “actively hated” Clark, cheering against him even on bad shots; Clark acknowledged it was “self-deserved.”
- Clark’s animosity wasn’t only the locker-room incident; it was amplified by his big lead preventing “history” moments (e.g., Scottie Scheffler’s career-grand-slam storyline).
- Weather/fog delay on Thursday created perceived unfairness, but Clark still performed best when it mattered.
- U.S. World Cup performance: the U.S. dominated Australia without Pulisic, and the hosts’ path could be favorable; the new group-stage tiebreaker rules reduce the importance of some third games.
Notable examples
- Clark damaged Oakmont locker room(s): described as “serial locker damager,” with discussion of two damaged lockers and Oakmont members allegedly leaving it unrepaired to display it.
- Clark previously took out a T-Mobile sign (mentioned as another reason for hate).
- Clark made jokes about “birth control” when asked about kids at the tournament.
- U.S. World Cup: U.S. beat Australia 2-0; bracket talk includes possible first-round opponents like Bosnia or Qatar; discussion of yellow-card reset after group stage.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOWyndham Clark's US Open Win
0:15 to 0:35
Discussion about Wyndham Clark's controversial victory at the US Open.
“We're talking towing the boat to the lake, off-roading into the woods like a legend, and still having room for the squad and all your gear.”
Wyndham Clark's US Open Win
2:38 to 5:02
Discussion about Wyndham Clark's controversial victory at the US Open.
“Part of my take, yeah, part of my take, yeah, part of my take.”
Crowd Reactions and Golf Decorums
5:02 to 8:08
Exploring the crowd's negative reactions to Wyndham Clark and golf etiquette.
“We never have asked what the locker said to him.”
Analyzing Wyndham Clark's Behavior
8:08 to 9:56
Debate over Wyndham Clark's actions, including locker incidents and comments made.
“Nothing against Wyndham, but it's like, I think that was the biggest thing.”
Psychology of Pressure in Golf
9:56 to 13:12
Discussion on mental toughness and how it affected players at the US Open.
“if he had a big lead because that seemed like it was, they could have seen like a moment of history there.”
Wyndham Clark's Public Relations Victory
13:12 to 14:00
How Wyndham Clark's performance and handling of pressure improved his public image.
“The 16th hole both Saturday and Sunday, the eagle shot on 16 on Saturday was incredible.”
Wyndham Clark's Unique Win Experience
14:00 to 15:00
Discussing the strange atmosphere at the U.S. Open and Wyndham's surprising fan reactions.
“It also, Shinnecock really couldn't afford to lose more fans.”
Weather Luck and Tournament Dynamics
15:00 to 16:20
Analyzing the impact of weather delays on player performance and fairness in the tournament.
“If Winnem was up one, would his dad have taken that?”
Reactions to Performance and Controversies
16:20 to 18:10
Reviewing player performances and the controversies surrounding the weather and course conditions.
“because they thought that everyone playing on Thursday was going to have really bad weather.”
The Locker Room Controversy
18:10 to 21:00
Debating the significance of the Oakmont locker room and Wyndham Clark's actions.
“Our golfer is so soft that they can't play with clouds.”
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Cultural Significance of Locker Rooms
21:00 to 23:20
Exploring the cultural and historical importance of locker rooms in golf.
“I could understand if he took a divot out of the green or something.”
Incidents and Penalties in Golf
23:20 to 28:01
Discussing notable incidents and the fairness of penalties in golf tournaments.
“They didn't feel like putting money into renovating it, unlike Hank's club.”
Golf Penalties and Club Throwing Controversy
28:01 to 29:49
A discussion about recent golf penalties and the lack of video evidence, leading to a humorous debate about club throwing rules.
“He would have finished for a tie for third if he didn't get the two-stroke penalty.”
Max Homa's Play and Reactions
29:50 to 32:29
Analysis of Max Homa's performance and amusing remarks regarding his post-tournament comments.
“But I think his team, I think Gabby Herzig is her name that reported it.”
USMNT's World Cup Performance
32:40 to 34:28
Celebration of the US Men's National Team's recent World Cup successes and expectations for the future.
“Sportsbook bonus bets expire in seven days.”
World Cup Rules and Strategy Discussion
34:29 to 36:28
Analyzing new rules in the World Cup and their impact on team strategies and player management.
“They're playing a backup in Ronaldo, and it's not going well.”
Cultural Differences in Soccer Fans
36:29 to 42:00
A lively debate about American soccer culture, traditions, and the differences with European fans.
“The bracket might be breaking out to be the most friendly that it possibly could, which scares me just a little bit that everything's kind of falling into line too perfectly.”
Critique of American Soccer Fans
42:00 to 43:08
The hosts discuss the lack of knowledge among U.S. soccer fans and the general popularity of soccer in America.
“I mean, what, over 70 % of the people that are like, USA, USA, let's go USA soccer?”
Yamal's Unique Connection to Messi
43:08 to 44:42
The hosts share surprising facts about young soccer player Yamal and his photo shoot with Messi.
“Norway is what the guy from Australia said when he scored that own goal.”
World Cup Expectations for the U.S.
44:42 to 46:01
Discussion on the expectations for the U.S. soccer team in the World Cup and potential matchups.
“Yamal scored his first World Cup goal in 2026 while age 18 years, 11 months, wearing number 19, Destiny.”
Memorable Parade Experiences
46:01 to 48:35
A detailed recount of a lively parade celebration, including interactions and notable moments.
“I'm sticking what I said at the start of the tournament, which is we need to win.”
Post-Parade Conversations
48:35 to 51:18
The hosts reflect on their experiences during the parade and share funny anecdotes.
“You were like standing next to Mike Brown.”
Basketball Offseason Updates
51:18 to 55:04
Hosts discuss basketball offseason news, including player signings and trades.
“Billy did it because they started like three and one.”
Basketball Offseason Updates
55:08 to 55:44
Hosts discuss basketball offseason news, including player signings and trades.
“Their new summer party pack has a brand new Twisted Lemonade made with real lemons and 5 % alcohol.”
Kevin Durant's Anniversary Commentary
55:44 to 56:00
Hosts discuss Kevin Durant's recent comments regarding his move to the Warriors.
Kevin Durant's Warriors Controversy
56:00 to 58:26
Discussion about Kevin Durant's comments on joining the Warriors and the surrounding narrative.
“enough players got ejected where they just couldn't continue the game that was crazy kind of exciting it is a reason to tune in do you want a free one?”
Baseball and Player Achievements
58:26 to 1:00:56
Conversation about baseball player achievements and impressive statistics.
“Do you wish nothing but success for Kevin Durant now, memes?”
Serena Williams and Environmental Concerns
1:00:56 to 1:03:26
Discussion on Serena Williams' return and concerns about environmental safety standards.
“You don't know what the package would look like to get Jalen Brunson.”
Personal Stories and Lighthearted Moments
1:03:26 to 1:10:00
Sharing personal anecdotes and humorous reflections on life and parenting.
“They put dangerous chemicals in our food and onto our football teams.”
Episode Discussion
1:10:00 to 1:24:00
“It's the same step that he's always said.”
Analyzing the U.S. Open Course Setup
1:24:00 to 1:26:15
Learn about the course conditions at the U.S. Open and how they impact scoring.
“difficult and to your point i hate when people say that like you got the you know he got lucky I mean, so did half of the field.”
Wyndham Clark's Stunning Eagle Shot
1:26:15 to 1:28:17
Explore the significance and difficulty of Wyndham Clark's remarkable eagle shot.
“Great golf shots around the greens went close.”
The Mental Game in Golf
1:28:17 to 1:32:26
Understand the mental strategies golfers use to manage leads and pressure.
“It's what Tiger was the best of all time at.”
The Impact of Green Speeds on Play
1:32:26 to 1:36:17
Discover how varying green speeds can affect golfers' confidence and performance.
Bunkers and Course Challenges
1:36:17 to 1:38:07
Discuss the evolving nature of bunkers in golf and their role as hazards.
“Are some guys getting too good at bunker shots?”
Golf Etiquette and Social Media
1:38:07 to 1:40:11
Discussion on golf etiquette regarding sharing embarrassing moments and the implications of social media.
“Roll the ball back, make the teeth on the bunker rigs wider.”
Conky's Twitter Challenge
1:40:11 to 1:42:07
A light-hearted conversation about a fan's dedication to tweeting at Max Homa for a round of golf.
“Maybe when I hit X amount of days, we'll do it.”
Wyndham Clark's Performance Analysis
1:42:07 to 1:45:56
Analysis of Wyndham Clark's performance at a tournament and the mental process behind stepping off a shot.
“If that somehow landed on 4th of July, could you imagine Jake Marsh's fucking head exploding with the woe?”
The Impact of Humor on Golf
1:45:56 to 1:47:03
Discussion about the humorous side of golf, including unexpected moments during a game.
“But that was, you know, right when he, right when I saw it, you're like, oh God, he's going to get yelled at.”
Frustrations in Golf
1:47:11 to 1:52:00
Max Homa shares his experiences with frustration in golf and the challenges players face.
“From one confirmed not father to one confirmed father, I want to wish you a happy Father's Day.”
Max Homa's Heartwarming Moment
1:52:00 to 1:52:38
Max shares a touching experience from Canada and discusses future appearances.
“Canada, somebody really warmed my heart.”
Max Homa's Heartwarming Moment
1:52:43 to 1:53:21
Max shares a touching experience from Canada and discusses future appearances.
“Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, the gold standard of candy.”
George Kittle Joins the Show
1:53:21 to 1:54:45
George Kittle talks about TEU and the exciting lineup for the event.
“And now, here's a good friend, George Kittle.”
Growth of Tight End University
1:54:45 to 1:56:04
Kittle discusses the impressive turnout for TEU and its growth over the years.
“And I have to literally text a hundred people.”
Experiences at Tight End University
1:56:04 to 1:57:19
Kittle shares past experiences and superlatives from TEU, including memorable moments.
“Do you do, like at the end, are there like superlatives?”
Injury Recovery and Expectations
1:57:19 to 1:58:45
George explains his recovery process from an injury and his training schedule.
“That's pretty, when you get on the treadmill and you turn it up to 16.”
Substation Discussion and Concerns
1:58:45 to 2:00:04
Kittle discusses the concerns around a substation and its impact on players' health.
“And they said it's at a safe, normal amount that will not affect us.”
Reflections on a Decade in the NFL
2:00:04 to 2:01:26
George reflects on his journey in the NFL as he enters his 10th year.
“And how divorced were these scientists that they sent out there?”
Draft Experience and Expectations
2:01:26 to 2:03:48
Kittle shares his draft experience and early days with the 49ers.
“I mean, literally, when I got drafted, I was just like, all right, what do I have to do to just make it through OTAs and not get cut?”
Bouncing Back from Adversity
2:03:48 to 2:06:00
Kittle discusses the challenges faced last season and the team's resilience.
“We had rookie minicamp, and we had two practices.”
Super Bowl Reflections and Rivalries
2:06:00 to 2:07:08
Discussion about the Super Bowl experience and camaraderie among players.
“You know, I'm not really, this is what people are asked, like, do you guys need to clear out your locker room and build a whole new locker room?”
Quarterback Journeys and Tight End U
2:07:08 to 2:08:59
Insights on quarterback development and upcoming Tight End U camps.
“Did you still believe somewhere in him like that was going to happen?”
Training Rookies and Skill Development
2:08:59 to 2:10:34
Strategies for helping rookie tight ends adapt and succeed.
“We got my old tight ends coach, John Embry.”
Rookie Show Highlights and Initiations
2:10:34 to 2:12:27
Fun stories about rookie talent shows and initiation practices.
International Games and Player Safety
2:12:27 to 2:15:07
Concerns over international games and the importance of player safety.
“You guys have to play in Australia this year.”
Future Coaching Aspirations
2:15:07 to 2:16:20
Discussion on aspirations to coach high school football in the future.
“I cannot wait just to be up there and just instill grit, effort, and hard work into these kids.”
Evaluating Player Potential
2:16:20 to 2:18:39
Insights on assessing player talent during training sessions.
“Can you tell if a guy loves football just by, like, at TU, right?”
The Feasibility of Unconventional Players
2:18:39 to 2:19:39
Debating the potential of unique athletes transitioning to football.
“And you have the green light to run through them now as safeties.”
Zach's Wrestling Alter Ego
2:20:11 to 2:21:49
Zach shares thoughts on a potential wrestling alter ego and Lucha masks.
“See, I've been asked that question a lot, and I don't want to answer it because if that day ever comes, I don't want to be stuck to the name.”
Advice for Young Players
2:21:49 to 2:23:20
Discussion on the importance of learning from experiences in sports.
“And old guys, guys who have been there, learn a thing or two, the young guys, the way to do it.”
George Kittle Interview
2:23:20 to 2:26:20
Interview with George Kittle discussing various topics including team dynamics.
“I thought PFT was going to ask me if he was going to steal Brandon Ayuk from here.”
George Kittle Interview
2:28:26 to 2:29:23
Interview with George Kittle discussing various topics including team dynamics.
“and the official crypto trading platform of Barstool Sports.”
Mount Rushmore of Deli Meats
2:29:23 to 2:34:00
Discussion and drafting of the Mount Rushmore of deli meats.
“You won't get it so controversial, but it is deli meats.”
Mount Rushmore of Deli Meats Draft Begins
2:34:00 to 2:35:05
The hosts introduce the deli meats draft format and player order.
“If I've said before, I think if I could eat, if I had to only eat one thing for the rest of my life, it would probably be a turkey sandwich.”
Draft Picks: Turkey and Salami
2:35:05 to 2:37:16
The hosts make their initial picks, debating the merits of turkey and salami.
“I think you could do that with turkey, too.”
Choosing Italian Meats
2:37:16 to 2:38:35
The conversation shifts to selecting Italian deli meats like prosciutto and roast beef.
“I think you're feeling a little cocky with Zach on your side.”
Clarifying Deli Meats vs. Deli Sandwiches
2:38:35 to 2:40:50
A debate arises over what counts as a deli meat, with arguments for and against certain picks.
“This is, you go to the grocery store, you go over to the deli counter.”
Tension Over Turkey and Roast Beef
2:40:50 to 2:43:14
Tensions flare as the hosts discuss turkey's viability as a deli meat and roast beef's perception.
“We went into this draft being like How could this get contentious?”
Conclusion of the Deli Meats Draft
2:43:14 to 2:44:44
The hosts finalize their picks and reflect on the draft experience.
“I don't know if that ought to call it a deli meat.”
Birthday Shoutouts
2:48:01 to 2:51:11
The hosts celebrate various birthdays, including notable figures and personal mentions.
“I just want to say happy birthday to my dad.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00PFT Commenter:Hey, Pardon My Take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. You grind all year, early mornings, late nights, fantasy drafts, hustle mode on. But when summer hits, it's time to chill, and Chevy Silverado makes that possible. We're talking towing the boat to the lake, off-roading into the woods like a legend, and still having room for the squad and all your gear. Inside, Silverado is comfy like a recliner. Outside, built like a linebacker Chevy Silverado Work hard, chill harder Football guy approved Head to Chevy.com to check out more about the Chevy Silverado On today's Pardon My Take Presented by DraftKings We have Two very good friends on the show Max Homa to recap The US Open Wyndham Clark's Second major championship Second US Open championship we're going to talk about that and what we saw at Shinnecock over the weekend we also have our good friend George Kittle because TEU is kicking off on Monday great talk with him catching up with him long time AWL long time front of the program we're going to talk golf we're going to talk World Cup is Giannis been traded yet I feel like he should have been traded I heard that the trade was imminent the trade might be imminent we're getting ready for the NBA draft on Tuesday.
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2:44For Dean of A.W. Martin Mountain. Yeah. Martin Mountain. Yeah. Part of my take, yeah, part of my take, yeah, part of my take.
3:24Bad night to be a grape on Long Island. Some mandatory grape coming from Wyndham. Some statutory grape coming from Wyndham. After it was over, they asked him, he's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to open up all the grape tonight. Yeah, it was kind of crazy. I knew he was a villain. Yeah. Didn't know he was that much of a villain. But he had to battle against the course. He had to battle against the fans were like actively cheering for his shots to be bad. Which, listen, I want to be really clear because I like it when that happens. Yeah. It's good that we have people breaching some of the finer rules of decorum for golf, like being happy that somebody that you're rooting against hit a bad shot.
4:02I think that's fine, and people should be allowed to do it. At some point today, it felt like the crowd at Shinnecock just was just, they fucking hated the guy.
4:11PFT Commenter:And here's the thing. I like, hating sports is great. That's what, you know, it fuels all of us. if your guy can't win, you want the guy you hate to lose. And especially in golf when there's 150 guys competing or whatever it may be. The thing I don't understand, and yes, we had Wyndham Clark on a couple weeks ago. I liked him a lot. And I don't know if we were, obviously we made fun of the open up some grape. He owned that. He's like, yeah, he had fun with us with that. I'm a casual golf fan in the fact I watch all the majors. I watch some of the other events, but I'm not like dialed in and being like, this is my guy.
4:51PFT Commenter:And I'm looking at his swing speed and all this stuff. Is the majority of it just that Wyndham Clark beat up that locker? Because that's part of it. But that feels like the majority of it. Because the locker. And yes, well, I don't know. We never have asked what the locker said to him. Well, what did the locker do in that situation? But I actually think the locker room is underreported because I saw the picture. The picture looks like two lockers were damaged. Yeah. He went on a locker damage spree. But I'm more saying this because I want, if you hate Wyndham Clark because he beat up a locker, fine.
5:24PFT Commenter:I feel like there's got to be more. And maybe there is more. There is. And hopefully there is more. Because then I'll be like, you know what? Great. You hate this guy and you should hate him. Just own it that you hate him. But the locker thing, I feel like we want guys to show emotion. Yes, you should not be beating up lockers, especially at the hallowed grounds of Oakmont. But respect, of course. that includes the locker room like you know these athletes are all psychos you don't get to the level of success that he's gotten to without being somewhat of a psycho i kind of like when guys show their their faults and maybe part of it is that he doesn't didn't immediately say sorry i get that too but yeah i i have no problem with wyndham clark and i enjoyed watching him kind of play the heel and watching everyone like boo him and there was that one i think it was like somewhere around eight or nine where he it was crazy he was hitting putts and just no one was clapping there was one audible just one guy just went boo yeah i love that that was hilarious like he just it was great the uh the get in the bunker yeah those are good too i so big kid i'm glad you asked about his missteps because like you i wondered like why why do they hate him this much because it was the type of like animosity that i can only remember for like patrick reed and i also should say if if part of your reason for hating windham clark today was because he was running away with it i agree with that i do like to see you want to see a competitive tournament when the day started he was up six you don't you want we want especially with only four majors you want to see sunday have fireworks and there kind of was like there was moments that were were high intensity moments that he fell back to the pack so go ahead okay so yeah it wasn't just damaging the locker it was damaging two lockers okay a serial locker damager there was also um he took out a t-mobile sign yep on a t-box a year ago so he disrespected t-mobile a great sponsor of the pga tour and that tournament let's not forget about the t-mobile sign and then um after the matches part three tournament svp asked him what it was like being out there with all the kids running around i saw that and his answer was uh yeah you know it was a great time also a great form of birth control to be out there.
7:32He made a joke. And guess what? I've said that exact same thing about going to the airport. Hank makes that joke all the time. When you go to the airport and it's all families that are running, that will make you want to have a kid never in your entire life. It's like, I'm pulling out from now on. So those are the big three. Those are the big three things that he's done. Can I just say off of that? Because I saw that one guy be like,
7:52PFT Commenter:happy Father's Day. He made this joke. Bad guy. There's no worse discourse online than both sides of this than the people who are like if you don't have kids you're a scumbag and the people who are like if you have kids you're a loser why would you do that to your free time everyone just makes their own live and let live make your decisions it's fine so Wyndham Clark making that joke if you're offended by that you're a fucking loser you're a dork now I noticed you did kind of gloss over the T-Mobile sign incident yeah see listen has T-Mobile ever been a sponsor of ours nope so no fuck him he didn't apologize yeah t-mobile sign deserved it now if that were a verizon sign i'd say put him in jail or worse reese's or mountain dew execute him i think get the fuck out of here i think a majority of it was the lead i yeah which i'm fine with i was rooting like i liked him on the show i like was i was happy he won but going into the day i was It's like, I hope he falters early and it gets close.
8:59Nothing against Wyndham, but it's like, I think that was the biggest thing. I think if you're going to Shinnecock on Sunday for a major, you want it to be close. So I think anyone besides like a fan favorite, even Scotty, I think if Scotty was up eight, people would not be like cheering for him. They'd be kind of hoping that, you know, things go south a little bit.
9:19PFT Commenter:You also forgot one other thing. What's that? Which I somehow got in a rabbit hole. because people didn't like LA Country Club and that US Open and he won that US Open, they hated him from that too. That one's a deep cut. That's a great one. I actually really like that one a lot because he reminds you of a tournament that you hated. That's perfectly legit. We're saying embrace the hate. I would even say what Hank was getting at, I think it had more to do with the fact that he had that big lead and then Scottie was the guy that was like, maybe he'll catch up to him. And I do think they would have rooted for Scottie if he had a big lead because that seemed like it was, they could have seen like a moment of history there.
10:02Yeah, Scottie's in the Tiger territory. He gets the career grand slam on his birthday, on Father's Day if he wins. I feel like that's what people really want to see out of their Sunday and Wyndham happened to be standing in between them and history.
10:14PFT Commenter:Yeah. But listen. Also, they just didn't like one. They don't like one. Which is fine. Yeah. But I think if he had a one-shot lead, lead it would not have been as i don't know maybe if he was in this because he was in the same group as scotty yeah but like i think if he was had a one-shot lead and he was in the final group with like brian harman i know one would no one would be cheering that hard it was also weird vibes all weekend because we had on saturday the people were mad because he he got he got the the weather luck too he got the weather luck which we're going to talk to max about a lot of this but the weather luck people i don't understand he played with a bunch of people who had the same weather luck and then I think he shot I think it was Friday or Saturday I think he had the second best round on the day so it's like he got yes he got a little bit of weather luck but then he held the lead and Saturday was weird because the last train is at 6pm they teed off at 3.45pm Eastern which was like crazy late it felt like and the vibes when Wyndham Clark was walking up 18 there was like no one there it looked like a practice round It was just weird.
11:19PFT Commenter:And, you know, Shinnecock is a fun place for the U.S. Open to be, but that one was weird. And then the combination, I mean, I enjoyed Sunday just because I've never seen a gallery be like that, like just openly root against an American in the U.S. Open the way they did. And not, like I'm saying, it's not like they were just rooting for Scottie. They were rooting hard against Wyndham, which made it fun. And credit to Wyndham. he's stronger than his mental health coach you see his mental health coach had to leave she had to go inside how do you do that if you're a mental health coach you have to stand there and take it with him as a mental health coach you're nervous that you haven't done your job and it's like when if I drive my El Camino and I'm taking it up a big hill that I want to leave I want to get the fuck out of there because this thing is broken down before I don't know I think you're going to sit out there and just take it and hear it all so that you can then when you have the conversation with him after be like yeah i heard that guy boo i heard that guy say get in the bunker she she ran away from the fire there's a burning building going on at shinnecock and she went inside to to to get some like tuna salad and and and some peanuts i think she was just like i don't know if i've done enough to prepare my client for this this occasion i don't i don't want to be around in case of meltdown it's funny that going into it when we were talking last week with shane bacon and he was saying that he thinks that guys that um are like the mentally most mentally tough the ones that are calmest in the face of adversity, have the best shot at winning this tournament.
12:45I actually think it might have been the exact opposite, where a guy like Wyndham, who's used to dealing with frustration, like being outwardly angry, they were born into that darkness. The other golfers merely inherited it this week at Shinnecock, when the course is fucking with you so bad, it makes everybody kind of play on that edge where they feel like they're going to throw a club. Wyndham's used to having that feeling, and he knows how to channel it better than everybody else. So he strangely was able to play more calmly than some of the other guys.
13:15PFT Commenter:And he was. He deserved this. The 16th hole both Saturday and Sunday, the eagle shot on 16 on Saturday was incredible. And then getting out of the rough and birdying 16 on Sunday, that was the championship hole for him. And, yeah, I mean, I enjoyed watching it. But, man, they were ejecting fans, which I also am against that. you should let the fans be, as long as they don't cross a line, if they say get in a bunker or they boo you, fans should get to be able to do that. That's fine. Yeah. There was one guy that got kicked out. Also, they can't afford... It might have been Billy Football. Yeah, I saw that.
13:52Did you see that one guy? I saw that guy. It might have been Billy, and I don't know what Billy said, if that was him. Yeah. But I stand for his right to freedom of speech.
14:00PFT Commenter:It also, Shinnecock really couldn't afford to lose more fans. Like, they should not have been kicking people out. Right. Because there was a moment, like, the grandstands were empty on Saturday. It was nuts. It had to be eerie to play in that. This is a pretty good quote, I thought, from Wyndham after it was over. He said, it's pretty rare to have fans cheer for bad shots. That was tough. But some of it is self-deserved. I kind of brought it on myself. Yeah. He gets it. And he's like, I guess I'll be the heel if they want me to be the heel. But I think what he's done by saying, I'll be the heel.
14:27I kind of deserve to be the heel. He's probably made a lot of people not want him to be the heel anymore.
14:33PFT Commenter:Yeah. Well, this actually weirdly was great PR for Wyndham because he stood in the face of everyone hating him. both online and in person, and then won the tournament. And if you were a hater of the LACC one, it's like you won Shinnecock. He just won Shinnecock, right. And he didn't ask for anyone to get ejected. He didn't freak out at anyone. So he had a great day PR-wise. Also, his dad took a red eye and surprised him on the 18th green. That's what it's all about. There was a lot on the line. What lead did his dad need? If Winnem was up one, would his dad have taken that? I mean, six-stroke lead on Sunday.
15:12Yeah, I don't know. His dad was waiting for him. He did it on Saturday, too, though. He could have came on. Yeah, dude, come Friday night. As a surprise, they had him on the 18th green. And it's like, what would have happened if he had bogeyed 18? Would his dad have been like, hey, son, I just saw that. It was pretty disappointing. Good luck in the playoff.
15:30PFT Commenter:Everyone was rooting for Sam Burns. They were just hopping around from golfer to golfer. Tom Kim had a moment where he was like, this is Tom Kim. It was very funny to watch. That was a cool moment, though, when he saw his dad for the first time. All of his bros were at the tournament today. I don't know how many bros Wyndham has, but it's got to set a record. Well, on the broadcast, we talked to everyone who ever has talked to Wyndham. Did you see that one segment where they had his swing coach on? That was weird. I didn't need that. It was so bizarre. Yeah. He was sitting in Colorado, just being like, yeah, we worked on his swing and we got it better.
16:06PFT Commenter:I was like, okay, now back to the U.S. Open. Scotty Scheffler is about to be putting. Hank, can you describe to me why people are upset about the weather luck on Thursday? I think because the USGA had forecasted it to be a lot worse, so they made the course easier because they thought that everyone playing on Thursday was going to have really bad weather. And then because of the delay, the people in the afternoon did not have bad weather and they got the easy conditions. So it was kind of like people thought it was unfair. But to Big Cat's point, there was, you know, the people in Wyndham's group all played well on Thursday and they did not play well on Friday and Wyndham did.
16:48So it was weather luck, but he made the most of it. Why did they delay it? Well, it was the fog delay.
16:56PFT Commenter:Oh, the fog delay in the morning. The fog delay pushed the people in the afternoon back. Yeah. What was the... I mean, Wyndham was, what, six under? Was there... There weren't a lot of guys who, like, ripped up the course. Dustin Johnson was playing with him, but he also, like, kind of faltered at the end of the day Thursday, and then he, like, fell apart. Right. Or he fell apart early morning Friday at the end of the first round, and then he fell apart in the second round, too. Or not fell apart, but, like, he... At one point was right there with Wyndham Clark. They were tearing it up, and then they fell off.
17:25Matt Fitzpatrick was tearing it up Thursday afternoon, kind of fell off.
17:29PFT Commenter:Yeah, it's a four-round tournament. I mean, that was – Wyndham Clark didn't have – I mean, today was his worst round, right? Yeah. It's like, so, yeah, on Saturday, he was – he had the third best scorer. I also think people were mad because they were like, oh, it's Shinnecock. People are supposed to be under par. And like Max was – or I guess like Max will say, like the – by the end of the tournament, there was, what, three people under par? Three guys. People were bitching on Thursday because they thought, like, oh, they made the course easier. Everyone's just going to run away with it. But that's just not what happened.
18:01I didn't care for the fog delay on Thursday. I think you've got to play through the fog. Yeah, you've got to play through the fog. We're doing load management for courses now, too? Yeah, you've got to play through a little fog. It's a cloud. Our golfer is so soft that they can't play with clouds.
18:15PFT Commenter:You've got to be able to play with clouds. So he is now in a pretty crazy company. So since 2000, multiple U.S. Open winners. Tiger Woods has three. Bryson two. Brooks two. Retief Goosen two. Wyndham Clark two. I keep going back to the L.A. Country. That's so funny. The L.A. Country Club is like, yeah, well, he won that one, and we hated that one. Everyone associated with that. So mad about that one. I don't know. Listen, I also will hand up, and I think the majority of our fans are probably, of the awls are probably in this camp of like uh like golf love the majors not tuned in all the time there are some diehard golf fans for the diehard golf fans i understand your gripes you look at the sport differently than we do i get it we look at football probably differently than you do what he did to that oakmont locker room is probably a bridge too far and you can never come back from it uh i get it and the team like oakmont like that's hollow ground you can't I would like to know if it was so it was two lockers but was it one locker and a ricochet shot or did he go after both lockers?
19:22Well what it looks like to me is one locker it's one locker that's damaged and then a locker that appears to be fine and then another damaged locker on the other side. So look he might have skipped one. It's like the Grim Reaper meme except he skips one. Yeah. Scroll down just a little bit Max. It's that there you see it. Okay. So what why didn't he attack the one? Was that his locker?
19:41PFT Commenter:Yeah see that's the thing though Matt Jones Our good friend Matt Jones said, why do people hate him? And then one of the first replies is because he did this, the historic locker room in Oakmont. Again, if that's really what, if that's the genesis of your hate, a locker that probably got fixed for like a couple hundred bucks. And I think I saw a story too that Oakmont paid for it. Yeah, he paid for it. Oakmont members didn't get it fixed right away because they liked showing it off. Yeah. Being like, here's the Wyndham Clark lock. Of course they do. How are lockers carrying this much weight in golf?
20:15If Tiger Woods was in the final today, people would be going crazy for him. Well, I mean, what a story of redemption that would be. If Tiger Woods didn't make it.
20:23PFT Commenter:He's never broken a locker, as far as I know. Yeah, say what you want about the guy. Sure, but that's not inside the locker room. I think that's – if Tiger Woods flipped a car inside the Oakmont locker room, then he'd have some problems. I think that they'd just probably leave the Buick in there. What if it hit a locker, though? No, they'd be like, this is the 19th hole now. Are lockers at big-time golf courses the most protected things in the world? It's a big deal. This is the stupidest shit of all time. Dude, you don't understand. I don't know. I don't understand at all. You don't do that at Oakmont with the locker.
21:01Who gives a fuck? It's not even the course. I could understand if he took a divot out of the green or something. It's the fucking locker room. Everyone is upset. No one's been in this locker room is upset about it.
21:13PFT Commenter:People shit in there. People are. Old dudes are naked walking around, powdering their balls and taking dumps like 20 feet from this locker. And it's basically the Sistine chap. My problem is the locker doesn't even look that nice. No, I think that's terrible. That locker room sucks. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's a pretty cheap locker. It's a fucking dump. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Do a reverse image search on those lockers. I want to know how much those... He must have done dozens of dollars worth of damage. Yo, I'm actually heated about this locker. I hate this locker room. Fuck this locker room.
21:46I'm going all the way the other way. Also, if anybody that works at Oakmont knows what they did with the locker panels after the US Open, we would be very interested in purchasing them. We will hang them as banners. We will purchase them.
22:00PFT Commenter:Hank, you are a member at a country club. You think this is a situation where you just can't go after a locker room. Hank doesn't have a locker room. Yeah, we do. No. There hasn't been a locker. They've been renovating it. For the last three years. Two years. But you just can't be doing this in a locker. No, I would definitely be on the, like, keep the locker so you can show it off. Like, that would be awesome. Yeah. That would be, like, every person that comes in there, you'd be like, oh, that's the Wyndham Clark locker. I would never be upset about it. I kind of want to, for March Madness, remember that one year we did the break room?
22:36PFT Commenter:I kind of want to recreate the Oakmont lockers and have them right outside the gambling cave. So if you have a bad beat, you can just fucking take a nine iron to the lock. What about the youngsters that are watching at home and they see us destroy a locker room? They're like, oh, maybe that's a cool thing to do now. I have 100 % punch those lockers outside of that. Yeah, I know. 100%. And that's why people hate you. There. You disrespected the lockers. I disrespected the noble lockers. I think we got a movie on our hands. The Oakmont lockers get like reanimated. Have they come back to life? Yeah, it's like Beauty and the Beast.
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23:10PFT Commenter:The lockers are talking. Why'd you hit me? Why'd you hit me? Why'd you hit me? Why's that guy keep taking dumps? Mr. Clark, why'd you have to put a nine iron through my face? Oh, my God. The locker room time forgot. It's a fucking locker room. So they just didn't update it. They didn't feel like putting money into renovating it, unlike Hank's club. There's going to be some golf fans that are mad at us for this because they take Oakmont Locker room as a very serious place. It's the history. And guess what? That's just one more thing in history that happened in that locker room. Did the Phil Tracker comment about the Oakmont lockers?
23:50PFT Commenter:Because that'd be great. I've not seen it. The Phil Tracker came out and said he'd defend Phil no matter what. No matter what happens. No matter what happens. What are the top ranked Wyndham Clark trackers? Is there like one that everybody goes to? Also, can you maybe search what are the top lockers? Because I kind of want Wyndham Clark to go after another locker. You don't really hear about the Augusta locker room. Is Oakmont just the number one locker room? How have we put a locker room this much on a pedestal? You know what else I noticed this weekend? A lot more of the people at home taking videos of their TVs and being like, how is this not a penalty?
24:25Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, because he cleaned some grass. Yeah, he moves. Well, it was dead grass. See, I love those people. Yeah, I love those people. You can't pluck the grass.
24:34PFT Commenter:They are taking matters into their own hands. They hate Wyndham Clark so much, like, I'm going to get him busted. So I salute those people. The wooden benches in Oakmont's locker room are as old as the club itself and pockmarked by decades of metal spikes. Okay, but that's not what he took. He didn't touch the benches. The footprints of legends like Bobby Jones, Arnold Palmer, Jack McLeod, Tiger Woods are tied directly to these changing areas. Jack Nicklaus put it. This is where Jack Nicklaus's butthole was. But Max brought up a good point. It's like I'm trying to think of an analogy for something like if you did something to the Ivy at Wrigley or the Green Monster.
25:14PFT Commenter:Like that's part of the actual field. Like if you went out to Oakmont and just tore up one of the greens, I would be like, that's fucking crazy. If you broke a locker at Wrigley, who cares? Yeah. Manny Ramirez used to wipe his butt with hand towels and then try to flush him down the toilet and start floods. It's just Wyndham being Wyndham. Oh, look at this. Milwaukee Country Club. Now that's a locker that I'd like to fucking go ham in. The fact that Golf Digest even has an article for the 25 most historic locker rooms in golf. I feel like, Hank, we're kind of attacking your culture right now. A little bit.
25:54PFT Commenter:Stand up for the lockers, dude. I mean a cool locker room is like going to a nice course and like being in a cool locker room is a great experience I agree being in a cool locker room is a cool experience but like would you basically be like I'm never I hate that person for life if they damage the locker room this locker room looks cool Seminole Golf Club looks cool so Wyndham Clark if you touch Seminole Golf Club that's our one that's our no fly zone you cannot If you ever damaged that one, we're done with you. Sacred cow. This one looks cool. It looks like a place I would like to hang out at.
26:31PFT Commenter:Yeah, that does look cool. Drink a beer. Yeah, there's that bar back there in the back. What did you say? You can stay in the parking lot. We're not allowed in your locker room. PFT. Oh. That was rude. Very rude. Oh, attacking your... Actually, Hank's... The funniest is Hank having to speak definitively on locker room culture when that's been the defining thing of his club for the last two years, which is a great play. Ever renovated something? Yeah. I actually know. Maybe Wyndham Clark was just helping start. Maybe you should bring him in. Yeah. Yeah. He'll be your demo guy. That was the first thing I said when I walked in there.
27:00I was like, that clubhouse looks like it's awesome. It is. It is. Apparently, it was only soft opened. When's the hard open? Inspections, dude. I don't know. I'm not the fucking soft. I'm not the contractor. I did get a chance to go into it the first time we ever played there. And it's a nice locker room. That's why I miss it so much. Yeah. Shout out. Fun stat, Keith Mitchell. He's the only player in U.S. Open history to shoot 70, 70, 70 on all four days.
27:30PFT Commenter:Including on Thursday going 41-29. 41-29 on Thursday. And then we also had Joaquin Neiman, who had a two-stroke penalty for throwing his club. This is bullshit. This is live. This is live. Anti-live. Oh, was it? Yeah. So he actually ended up playing really well. He lit it up. He could have won. I don't know if he could have won, but he was seven over on one hole, and he lost by seven. But it was only a two-stroke penalty. Yeah, he would have finished in a tie for third. He finished seventh. He would have finished for a tie for third if he didn't get the two-stroke penalty. But afterwards, he was asked.
28:06PFT Commenter:No video. It's like the Des Bryant tapes. Oh, okay. Like, where are these? How does no one have a video of this? And also, people throw clubs. Yeah. Like, if that was a tried and true rule, like throw a club, two-shot penalty, sure. People throw clubs. We've lost all of our golf purists. And they just decided, like, this was the one that we're going to give them a two-shot penalty. Yeah. I heard that it was a reckless throw. I heard. And there were multiple people that were on the scene that confirmed, yes, this is the definition of a two-stroke penalty right there. Did he roll a 20-sided dice to see if he could go reckless first?
28:43I did not. I did not check up on whether or not D &D was used as a possible negotiating.
28:48PFT Commenter:Every time the word reckless is said, I'm just thinking of Tim Woods being like, would you like to go reckless? Of course. And the answer is always yes. By the way, July 3rd, our next Dungeons and Dragons episode, very, very good. So, Hank, are you saying just because there's no video evidence, so it didn't happen? No, I just, it just, you know, you see people throw clubs. Like, that's a common thing. You'll see the PGA Tour post the videos. I think Max came on. I think Max was on the show talking about being anti-club throw through a club a few weeks later. And the PGA Tour will promote it, and they'll be like, oh, angry club throw.
29:19Look at this, club throw. No two-shot penalties. And so the fact that this was a two-shot penalty was so egregious, yet somehow, someway, in today's day and age, there's no video anywhere. Makes you think. And it's a live guy. Really makes you think. I mean, it could be dangerous. There could have been a locker nearby that the club hit. But also they wouldn't give him relief from fire ants. No respect. Oh, yeah, that's right. Then he tried to invoke the Bryson rule. And he was like, there's a dangerous animal near my ball. And they're like, Joaquin, please don't make us deny you.
29:49PFT Commenter:He was going. They were going after the lip. But I think his team, I think Gabby Herzig is her name that reported it. And I guess his team was going after her on the range. Be like, this is bullshit. And she was like, are you denying it? And they weren't denying it. They were just mad at her for reporting it. Well, he was asked afterwards, after he finished the tournament on Sunday, are you thinking if that one hole didn't happen, you get those seven shots back, you'd have a chance to win? He said, if my grandmother had tires, she'd be a car. I like that. Good answer, yeah. Great answer. Is that how it?
30:21Yeah. Because if my aunt had balls, she'd be my own. Yeah, that one works, too. No, but he's right. Yeah.
30:25PFT Commenter:If his grandmother had. She'd be a car. Yeah, she'd be a car. That's how it works. Anything with tires. Well, she'd be a motorcycle if she had two tires. Right? Or a unicycle. She'd be Red Panda. I would assume the tires would be both her legs, so she'd be more of a motorcycle. So Neiman should be... Actually, we should assess him some more penalties. That would just be roller skates in that case. Giant roller skates. So, Hank, did he admit to throwing the club? Yes. And what are Liv's rules against that? I don't know. If this happened on the Liv tour, they should market themselves like, this is where the tour that allows you to throw clubs.
31:00Yeah.
31:02PFT Commenter:I mean, they don't have anything left, so might as well just do that. Yeah, they might be already that league. We don't have video evidence of Lit. It doesn't exist anymore. It's just a figment of our imagination. I got a couple more events. Oh, really? Are you going to be tuned in on the app that you never bought? It was too late. I'll be tuned in. Okay. Anything else? We're going to talk more with Max. He's actually going to break down. We also have a theory about Wyndham's name that maybe is part of the reason people hate him. Before we get to some World Cup talk, DraftKings, go right now, DraftKings.
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32:51PFT Commenter:28 terms at dkng.co slash audio okay we are the best uh at soccer we beat australia the soccer ruse to nothing on friday it was picture perfect scene in seattle awesome uh just the whole vibes the stadium um everything rocked and we're the best we're the best we're the best in the world until someone tells me differently until we lose we've i think that was the first time ever we've won two games in a row in the world cup that sounds i think i think i saw that's that could be right so we're the best ever that could possibly be right i'm actually getting we might be the best i'm getting to the point now pft where people are uh doing like power rankings of what they've seen so far and if we're not top 10 i get angry you're getting mad yeah i get fucking you should you should be mad because i did see one article i think like it was in the athletic and they had us still at number 17 for no one's taking it seriously it's like that's some bullshit I think you have to start taking it seriously because what we saw on Friday, we played a really good game and we dominated without our best player.
33:53And that's hard to do, especially at the World Cup. We've seen all the ties that you could ever hope for, some very lopsided in terms of skill contests that end up closer than they should be. And we just dominated. We just said, fuck you. We're going to play our style of soccer. I thought that the counter-pressing that we did was amazing. Again, we got a really good coach. We have a kick-ass coach. I know.
34:16PFT Commenter:And I like his fits. He dominated. The Australian coach looked like he was catering a wedding. He was like an all-black with a tie, dressed for his own funeral. But yeah, you're right. Like Pulisic being out, most teams having to go to your backup. Like, look what happened in Portugal. They're playing a backup in Ronaldo, and it's not going well. Right, exactly. So when you hope you're not playing 10 on 11, we were not in that case. Zach's playing his backup glasses tonight Yep Sometimes your best game is your next game He's got a next game coming up Yeah and so this is where it gets interesting Because we just won our group So fuck you rest of the world We're in charge now By the way the new rules suck The new rules for how to win a group suck What do you mean?
35:05PFT Commenter:They basically eliminated these third games Meaning anything for half of the groups And it sucks So now the head to head is the tiebreaker are not total goals. It used to be total goals. So you would have, like, going into this third game, you'd have... I'm not complaining that we won our group. That's awesome. But going into this third game, you would still have to play. And, like, Australia, if they went fucking nuts and they scored a shitload of goals and won their game, they could win the group. Now you have, like, Mexico's not going to have to play anyone. US isn't going to have to play anyone.
35:36PFT Commenter:We can sit everyone who's got a yellow card. Like, there's only so many World Cup games, and they've basically, with this new head-to-head rule, they've eliminated probably I don't know six games that just will have no meaning whatsoever yeah I don't know how many are going to be are going to like fall into that category but that does stink I do I like the fact that they changed the rule about the yellow cards though so the yellow cards are going to reset after the group stage so right you get the second yellow card in the opening knockout game and you were sitting on the yellow then you're not going to be suspended for the next game no you can still be suspended the yellow cards reset after the group stage that's what I said yeah yeah So you have to sit your guys right now.
36:12Say if you were sitting on a yellow at the end of the group stage and then you got one in the knockout stage.
36:17PFT Commenter:But we have to sit our guys who have yellows because you don't want them to be suspended for the next game. Right, because then if they got that second yellow in the last game, then it would impact. But yeah, they do reset at the end of the group stage, which I think is a really good rule. And I'm looking at who we might be playing and the stats about the probability. The first two games should be winnable. Very winnable for us. The bracket might be breaking out to be the most friendly that it possibly could, which scares me just a little bit that everything's kind of falling into line too perfectly.
36:48But it looks like we'd be playing Bosnia.
36:50PFT Commenter:This graphic is ridiculous because this graphic was posted before half of the groups even played their second game. Yeah. But I love it. Right now it's Bosnia or Qatar would be the two teams that we're probably going to play in the first round. And then after that, everything's very much up in the air, so we don't really know. But it's looking like it would be one of the more winnable paths to the Final Four, which would be pretty incredible for us to do. Yeah, it would. Hank, did you enjoy the game? I'm sorry that you won. No, it was a good game. I'm happy for the fans, happy for you guys. You know, the country roads, like the...
37:33Go on. I don't... Yes? I like the support for our country. good people want to pretend to be big soccer people go for it you were so mad they want no i mean just if i'm if i was going to be a hater though yeah we didn't even qualify for this tournament yeah you don't have to we host yeah yeah we hosted so we got a cookie cutter we just got like a charity a charity like entry and then they gave us a charity group so obviously we won our group because they were set up for us to win our group. I've been telling you that FIFA is the most blatantly corrupt rig organization in the world for the last four years.
38:12Of course we got a sweet group. They take care of the host country sometimes. If we didn't qualify, like we earned it, maybe I could get, but it's like, oh, you're going to get, it's cook, it's good. I mean, we would have made the World Cup. We won a T-ball game. We hit a home run in T-ball. It's an expanded field.
38:26PFT Commenter:Everybody made the World Cup this year. Except for Italy. Hank, what were you more mad about? Were you more mad that we won and everyone's pumped that we love our country except you uh and we had a great time on friday or are you more mad that when you looked at the bracket and you couldn't find the dominican you're like well i now i don't have a team yeah i mean it would it would be electrical dominican was i got i got cape bird though i'm i'm a i'm a cape birdian for this for this world cup hey hank tried to accuse us of gaslighting him into saying when when i think we were both tweeting during the game being like, Hank's got to hate this right now.
39:00PFT Commenter:He's like, you guys are gaslighting into being anti-American. I was anti-World Cup. I would maybe buy that argument if we don't have literally an example of three months ago, you rooting against our country in an international competition. No, I was just rooting for the Dominican, and then we ended up playing them. So, Hank, I know that you... Like, if we play Cape Verde, we have, oh, it's over. I mean, you had a lot of respect the other day for Bosnia and what'd you call them? Bosnia and Herzegovina? Whatever? Yeah. Trying to explain to Hank why there was a country that had the word and in their name was tough to do.
39:37Well, you just said Bosnia. You didn't give them the respect of saying their last name. Bosnia and Herzegovina. My point was exactly proven by you when you go, right now it's matchup, we're going to play Bosnia. If that's the answer, why do they have two names or you're not going to say them?
39:52PFT Commenter:Why didn't you say the other name? That was a fair point by Hank. That was a fair point. Hank got one point we have to play bosnia and herzegovina we're the only team that might play two opponents yeah go usa um that's no you don't mean that you don't mean that at all i feel like hank you should it would do you a lot of good if you just enlist in the military for a little bit just get some patriotism worked in the country roads was awesome i watched that 20 times and i actually got like tears in my eyes that's the thing about soccer in america is like we've got a lot of people trying to figure out how we can adapt our culture into fitting in with European soccer and take on some of their traditions but Americanize them we've got the best sports traditions in the world right here in the United States just do those in the hydration break second half I wouldn't mind hearing Renegade no it's the truth part of the reason why the Hanks of the world can't get into soccer is and I'm going to defend you here Hank I just don't like the sport Well, I know, but when you see on social media or before a game, a bunch of dorks in scarves trying to copy a European country's chance, it's stupid.
41:01PFT Commenter:You know what we should do? We should do a fucking Penn State whiteout. Okay? That's what we should do. We should play neck. We have all these things that we are dominant in. You know what? I'll even say this. This is fucking nuts. We should put the dorks and the Cameron Crazies right on the sideline and have them just breathing down the neck of someone trying to do a throw-in. Get all our traditions. Have the Ravens fans walk up with their camo pants. Yeah. Really dive into everything. Because we do have a lot of great fan base. LSU neck would be a perfect example. Dude, put a marching band in the crowd.
41:37Turn all the lights off in the stadium before the game kicks off and then blast Inner Sandman.
41:43PFT Commenter:Yeah. Stop trying to make songs happen that we can't do because guess what? A bunch of drunk dudes in England are better at picking like a 70s rock song and then rhyming their favorite player with that song. They're just good at it. They just naturally have it. You know what we have? We have the fucking black hole. Get the Raiders gorilla behind the net. Boltman. Their fans know their players names. We don't have that going for us. What? Is Hank being like fake fans? I mean, what, over 70 % of the people that are like, USA, USA, let's go USA soccer? Three players? Four players? Maybe? You know three things?
42:24You know red, white, and blue? Just root for fucking America? That's all you need to know. Those are the only three things you need. That's what I'm saying. The songs are never happening. Which stats are you getting these from? My eyes. Where did you see it? So 70 % of U.S. soccer fans can't name three players. Probably more.
42:41PFT Commenter:I think you're also basing a lot of this on our office, which is one of the dumbest offices in the world. Million percent. Chaps proves that to be true almost daily when he gives us questions and people can't fucking name the state of like they can't recognize Missouri, let alone another country. Million percent Hanks basing this off of three guys that he's upset with. I mean, is soccer big in the U? Am I crazy? Dude, it's the World Cup. It's in our it's we're playing the World Cup on the 250th anniversary of our country on our soil and we're the best and it is the most popular sport in the world.
43:18That of that I believe.
43:23PFT Commenter:The other game has been pretty cool. Been some good ties. Good ties. Brazil finally woke up. What was the. Oh, oh, Netherlands. Just absolutely. Is it what's it are we. Is it Holland? Is it Netherlands? Which one is it? They're the Dutch. Okay. I like him fast. Yeah. Oh, do you like Holland? Yeah. Yeah. For Norway. That's not Netherlands. You just said Holland. Oh, Holland. The country. Holland, the country. Got it. Yeah. Norway. He's on first. Norway is what the guy from Australia said when he scored that own goal. Norway. And then Yamal made his debut for Spain. He's so good. He's awesome. And you should get in on him.
44:11PFT Commenter:You won't. He also has been, I mean, you want the woe stat of the century? There's a photo shoot that Messi, when he was like 20 years old, did a photo shoot with a baby, and the baby was Yamal. Yeah. Whoa. He was baptized. The next goat was baptized by the current goat. Ronaldo, never done that. Look at that. That's Yamal right there. Isn't that crazy? It's a real picture. Messi scored his first World Cup goal in 2006 while age 18 years, 11 months, and wearing number 19. Yamal scored his first World Cup goal in 2026 while age 18 years, 11 months, wearing number 19, Destiny. And that's what? This is real?
44:52PFT Commenter:Yeah. No, 100 % real. Crazy. Why did this happen? They were doing some sort of photo shoot. What was the photo shoot for? Babies and Messi. Was it an ad? Yeah, it was Messi and Babies. We need more. I think there's... You want more pictures of the babies? There it is. There's the article right there. The anointed one. See? Was he good at soccer as a baby? This is... No. Listen. It was already over, but Ronaldo has nothing. Until Ronaldo is baptizing a baby that ends up being the next best world soccer star. How much do you think Yamal could charge to baptize a baby right now? A lot. There we go.
45:38A new cameo? Yeah. It was a calendar for charity. Yep. Okay. That's all we probably saw. And that baby ended up being one of the best players in the world. He can't look past that. He christened him. Yeah. No, doing cameos for baptizing. That's next up, I think. Pretty sick. Yeah, it's pretty cool. And we are, sorry to say, Hank, we are the best in the world. Get used to it. Mm-hmm. We'll be around for a while. So what would be a disappointing finish for the U.S.
46:03PFT Commenter:At this point, we got to get to semis. I'm sticking what I said at the start of the tournament, which is we need to win. We need to make it to the quarterfinals. Let's see how the bracket comes out. Because there will definitely. Sweet 16. If the bracket is set up how it's set up right now, we should be in the top base. I don't know. Come on. Quarterfinals. That's four. the the semi-finals quarterfinals i guess why that would be confusing yeah yeah because you got quarter in there but no we should get to the semis if it was what it's set up right now who knows what it's going to look like after the next round of games but it does it looks like we should we're going to be favored in our first game and we're probably going to be favored in our second game and then the third is where it really shakes out into like we could end up running into a powerhouse like spain who has been tied by um was that that was uh keep verde so anything can happen but um what so you were talking about the netherlands the netherlands is awesome i think it's been like 14 games since they've lost yeah in regulation at the world cup yeah they just they've they've made a habit of uh flaming out pretty spectacularly in some big moments later on in the tournament but um they're a really really good team and they have been for a while so So I might put a little...
47:21I want to wait until the bracket really comes into its own. I get to see what the matchups might be, but I think I'm going to put down some money on the Dutch.
47:28PFT Commenter:I liked playing with them in 2010. That was a great video game, the South Africa one, and Iron Robbins. He was sick for the Netherlands. Okay, any other World Cup thoughts? Max, you went to a watch party, right? Sick. I did. It was awesome. Great vibes. Speaking of... City was bumping. Curacao Curacao's coach is named Dick Advocate. I just thought that was fun. That is fun. That's a fun thing of note. Great tie from them. Yeah. Great tie. Really good tie. Speaking of parties, memes is back. Memes. Give it. I know you were on your way to karaoke coming from the Subway sandwich shop on Friday. Yep.
48:07PFT Commenter:Tell us everything. Went into the city at 530. Didn't get back home on Long Island until 1030 at night. Long day. Vibes were immaculate. The best way to describe the parade, it was kind of like World War Z, which is a zombie apocalypse movie. People were just climbing on everything. They were climbing on garage trucks, scaffolding, light poles, like everything you could imagine. It was being climbed on. And whatever they reported for the number, I think it was 2 million, just double it. Okay. So 4 million. Yeah, it was 4 million people. And how did you get... You were like standing next to Mike Brown.
48:44You were standing right next to the speeches.
48:49PFT Commenter:How'd you do that? We knew a cop. Oh, hell yeah. It was a big Noah Cop Day or Noah AWL Day. After we were done with the parade, we went over to Stone Street, and it was mobbed, and then a group of AWLs were like, hey, we got a table. And then that was probably the greatest part of the parade for me. Told you, after the parade drinking. Yeah, people were just throwing toilet paper everywhere, and it was just hanging off of a bunch of ribbons in the middle of the street. That's awesome. What was the weather like? Weather was good. Started raining a little bit, but still perfect. How many guys call you champion?
49:25Everyone. Everyone was just calling each other champion. Champion or champ? Champion.
49:30PFT Commenter:Like looking you in the eyes and saying champion. Champion. You would say champion, champion, and then shake hands. Oh, that's pretty incredible. So this was a thing. Never doubted it. Did somebody say it wasn't a thing? No. We reported on Friday that everyone was doing it. Yeah. And it sounded real. I was personally doing that. So whoever was reporting that, I might have just said it to that person. Who had the best speech? Best speech? I'm going to be honest. Don't remember the speeches. That's a good answer. Great answer. What about, you see toe sucking? Didn't see any toe sucking. You know that video I'm talking about?
50:10that guy was getting after the toes that and the twerking were or oh the twerking lady was awesome
50:17PFT Commenter:she just twerked right in her face and she had the presence of mind too to have the orange underwear like she went to the parade being like there's a good chance my my pants come off and i gotta be ready for this she knew yeah okay great and i i'll say this uh we're gonna get to mount Rushmore after the interviews, but we decided the teams on Friday and memes Max and I are a team and we were talking before. I don't know if I'm ready for the world that we live in now where memes is just kind of smiling all the time. And Max and I just accused him of like being weird. And then we realized this is just who he is now.
50:59PFT Commenter:Yeah, it's fucking crazy. He's happy man. Yeah, I'm just I'm just a winner now as a former loser. Yeah. It's just nice to win. Do you look down on guys like me? No. I root for you now. That's awesome. That's so patronizing. That's so much worse. Yeah, thanks, man. That's so much worse. I was more cynical because everyone knows. This is Billy and the Jets. No, no, no. But this one makes sense. But he actually won something. Billy did it because they started like three and one. Yeah. I would hate watch teams purposely root against. but now I'm rooting four. We got goal Egypt. Yeah, love that. One-one, we need a tie.
51:39Give me all the ties. I will say one other funny part from the parade. My buddy was wearing a Josh Hart Villanova jersey, and we were walking down an alley, and there were three other guys wearing Villanova jerseys, and it just happened to be the other three guys.
51:52PFT Commenter:Oh, did you take a picture? Yeah. It was a very dudes rock moment. It was just Dante DiVincenzo, Brunson, and McHale, and we had the fourth long loss. And none of them were Brunson? No, one guy was Brunson. One of them was Brunson. We had Josh Hart. They had the other three. That is. Oh, yeah. Got it. Got it. I thought. Okay. Okay. I got you. That's really sick. Now we have the draft and free agency coming. Did Trae Young sign, by the way? No. Monday. Monday is when free agency is. Giannis still up in the air. I've seen a lot of people being like, Giannis is about to sign, trying to call their shot, and then missing the window.
52:26Going to the Celtics, right, Hank? I think it's Heat is the favorites. Heat seems like the favorites.
52:31PFT Commenter:also did you see AJ DeBansa Father's Day nice Father's Day post post a picture of his dad in front of the White House and his dad was wearing I believe the Georgetown Nikes in the second picture yeah I saw that and then the Darren Peterson news is kind of weird too where he says he's not going to work out or meet with any team besides the Wizards so he might just be doing an E-line just like forcing his way we might get both of them you might get both Darren Peterson and AJ Maybe. That's what... It looks like Darren Peterson won't play basketball for any team except the Washington Wizards. Yeah.
53:06PFT Commenter:Didn't that happen last year for the guy the Jazz drafted? Oh, Ace Bailey? Yeah. The Jazz were like, we don't give a fuck. You're coming to Utah, buddy. There's been a couple of commonalities in the last couple of drafts. I don't know who it is in D.C. that keeps leaking word to the media that everybody in the draft only wants to play for the Wizards. But that's a pattern that we're starting to see. Well, I mean, that would make sense for every agent to try to vie for their player to be the first pick. Right. Okay, anything else before we do? Oh, the Kachucks are now together in Florida. That's pretty crazy.
53:40PFT Commenter:Yeah. I feel like we, and we'll have the hockey guys on at some point this summer. I feel like hockey's got like a sneaky situation going where everyone's just forcing their way to states without income tax. I know we've touched on it a little bit, but in business talked about it, but it feels like a really big problem now. Yeah. Because it's not like the NFL or NBA where they're, you know, guys are making millions upon millions. Like hockey guys, if you're making$2 million, like the difference on state income tax, like that's massive. So I don't know. Another, the Kachuk brothers in Florida will be fun.
54:20Yeah. So it was three first round picks in a second. That's a lot. Yeah. Right. Like in hockey, that's three first rounders. It's kind of nuts, but this is a good move, I think, for the Panthers.
54:30PFT Commenter:Yeah. I'm just happy they get to podcast together now in person. Yeah. The quality of the show is going to go up. Big time. As someone who roots for the podcast around the world. Yeah. Actually, I don't like that. I don't like that part of it. Why? Well, I'm just saying like if we're going to be competitive and cutthroat, I guess iron sharpens iron. Yeah. No, we can't. We don't run away from competition. We're not like Wyndham Clark's psychological coach who's covering her ears when shit gets tough. We run towards the fire. We're ready for it. All right, let's do Who's Back of the Week. Who's Back of the Week is brought to you by our friends at Twisted Tea.
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55:44PFT Commenter:Grab a refreshing Twisted Tea today. Hank. Yeah, I had the Panthers. I guess fights the big three came back they had to suspend one of their games I saw that Lance Stevenson, Dwight Howard, Jordan Crawford, Michael Beasley all got in like separate fights throughout the game enough players got ejected where they just couldn't continue the game that was crazy kind of exciting it is a reason to tune in do you want a free one? Game of Thrones? no Game of Thrones is back I'm excited do you want another one? sure Kevin Durant quote from Kevin Durant? Kevin Durant went on a podcast. Did anyone see this?
56:23PFT Commenter:It's quite shocking. Kevin Durant, I don't know why he's decided to talk about joining the Warriors now. I guess it is 10 years. Yeah, it's the 10-year anniversary. He essentially said on this interview... No, it's the fucking Cavs 10-year anniversary. No, I know, but July 1 is the 10-year anniversary. I'm pretty sure it was on Million Dollars Worth of Game. Oh, was it? It's the old interview. Oh, so why is it going reviral they just clipped it oh so but it is a 10 year anniversary july 1 2016 i believe is when kevin rent went to the warriors yeah that would make sense he said though um when he went to the warriors he everyone was like oh you hooked up with your friends you know he's like i wasn't tight with any of those guys and he said that he wasn't thinking about the fact that the warriors had been to back-to-back finals and just uh won what was it 73 games or whatever it was uh he was saying that the Warriors as a franchise overall was seen as losers.
57:19PFT Commenter:So he thought he was kind of joining an underdog. Okay. So that's the mental gymnastics he's gone through to defend the ring chasing? Yeah. Okay. He said, the Warriors have never been a perennial winner. You know what I'm saying? In the NBA from the 50s on up. So I'm like, damn, this is an underdog franchise to me. Yeah. Nobody expected them to do anything. Yeah. Hell of a spin zone. Yeah. Hell of a spin zone. Okay. you good Hank what do you got what are you looking for I feel like it was after that no I know it was literally the Warriors beat the Thunder in the Western Conference Final and then Kevin Durant went It might have been July 4th, 2016.
58:04PFT Commenter:Yeah, because it was when I did the hot dog competition. I remember I was stuffed full of hot dogs and I saw my next chapter. Yeah, that was... Graphic. Defending it by saying the Warriors were not a good team is wild, even for KD. Yeah, they're a loser franchise. All right, KD. Yeah. I hope he's happy. He's not. No. Maybe one day. Come on the show. Come on the show. We'll make you happy. Come on the show. We'll talk through it. Okay, PFT. Memes will make you really happy. Memes will root for you. Do you wish nothing but success for Kevin Durant now, memes? If he comes on the show. Yeah. Max is putting up a tweet of Bryce Harper.
58:41Well, you're talking about free ones.
58:42PFT Commenter:Getting a cycle. Do you think that was a triple? Sure was. I continue. Because this is just going to out you for not knowing ball. No, I asked you a question if you thought it was a triple. I would like you to continue. Do you think it was a triple? With asking you if it was a triple? It was. They scored a triple. It was. It's a triple. Correct. He was going to third base before the throw. I know. I just want to get... He would have been thrown out. He would have been for sure thrown out. Yeah. But it is a triple. And anyone who's complaining about it being a triple does not know ball. Yeah. I just want to get you fired up about it, Max.
59:18I was hoping that you were going to be on the opposite. No. Because, I mean, it's clear as day that he rounded second in maybe, like, the dumbest display of base running of all time. I mean, they were up 13. Yeah. And it worked out for him. But yeah, it's a triple.
59:32PFT Commenter:Max, by the way, congratulations on being a wildcard team. Congratulations to you. Thank you very much. Congrats, guys. Happy for both of you. Did you guys see the PCA stat? Can I just say it real quick? It's fucking crazy. The PCA in the... So this was from Friday. It was... There have been 5 million total 18-game spans by players in Major League Baseball modern era and none of them did a player have as many hits, doubles, triples, homers, and steals as PCA did in those 18 games. Five million. One in five million. And then Ryan Spader did follow up with that saying that if he had that 18-game span for the entire season, he still would have had a lower OPS than Barry Bonds in 2004.
1:00:20Which is absolutely insane. Every Barry Bonds stat feels like it's made up.
1:00:24PFT Commenter:Yes, Tony Gwynn and Greg Maddox and Barry Bonds. Yeah, just absolutely crazy. Do we have news? Egypt scored again that was bad for the ties we do have news Max what's the news breaking moves wow Max go ahead tell us this big breaking moves that you got us I did not I'm just doing the thing read it Max this is big breaking moves Aaron Wiggins to the Atlanta Hawks for two second round picks instant reaction from the booth thunder Fleece Thunder just So good at getting picks This is a fleecing Grade the trade Oh, Zach Atlanta's 20-30 second round pick 20-30 second round pick Fucked Who knows how valuable that pick could be That could be Jalen Brunson Yeah Great point No, the next Jalen Brunson Jalen Brunson's already in the NBA No, I know I'm saying the second round pick Yeah, it could be the next Jalen Brunson Yeah, yeah I'm just saying like It's not Yeah It's definitively not going to be Jalen Brunson Well, no, but I'm saying You don't know that Maybe they could use that pick to get Jalen Brunson And there could be another guy named Jalen Brunson.
1:01:27Yeah. Absolutely. Or they could, yeah. You don't know what the package would look like to get Jalen Brunson.
1:01:31PFT Commenter:Were you talking about a different Jalen Brunson? No, I'm saying that could be Jalen Brunson. It could end up being a Jalen. It could be a Jokic. It could be a Jalen Brunson. Second round picks. There's so many Jalens in the NBA. Yeah. All right. Good breaking moves. Great job, Max. We're having fun. Way to go. We're having fun out there. Yeah. My who's back of the week is Serena Williams. She's playing in Wimbledon. She's 44. What memes? Now that you're a champion, you're too good for us to make grunts. You guys know I laugh at it.
1:02:09Zach? Combination.
1:02:15PFT Commenter:Discollification. Serena, she's back. I'm staying very woke on this. I'm thinking this is just a viral advertisement for her weight loss drug that she has one. Yeah. She's like the face of a weight loss drug. Yeah. Which one? I forget. I don't want to give her free pub. Okay. But yeah, I feel like this is a marketing stunt, even though she is still, I think she's hitting like 120 miles an hour on her serve still. So she's probably good enough to beat like the scrubs that she'll play in the first round. I'll be honest. Tennis is a sport that I pay so little attention to. I have no idea who's retired or not.
1:02:50PFT Commenter:I thought she was still playing. Is Federer retired? Yes. Okay. Is Nadal? Yes. He's retired? Yeah. And Serena and Venus are retired. Yeah, I saw Nadal's last match on clay. Serena's back. Okay. And then this gives Serena and Venus a double spot since she's getting the wild card now. Yeah. Got it. So congrats to Serena. Okay. I guess. My other who's back of the week is environmental testing and safety standards and standing up for what's right in this country. These corporations, they pollute our water. They poison our earth. They put dangerous chemicals in our food and onto our football teams.
1:03:35And we're not going to stand for it anymore. We did some testing last week. Is the video out? Came out on Friday. It did. Came out Friday. We did some testing on the ground in Hammond, Indiana. that the Bears are planning on moving to potentially. Zach and I, Zach did most of the testing. We have it all documented, and we discovered that there is lead.
1:03:58PFT Commenter:Right, Zach? A lot of lead. Lead in the groundwater. Zach drank it, tested it. It's going to be, maybe it might actually be a home field advantage for the Bears now that I'm thinking about it. If you're not used to having lead on your playing field and you come into Chicago, that's going to be tough to deal with during the game. But yeah, it's polluted. So go watch the video now. We actually did some weird science testing. I think it's valid. I think that's a legit experiment we did, Zach. Yeah. In our independent research, the lead test did test. It maxed out on the scale. Yeah. As much lead as possible.
1:04:33PFT Commenter:And I think we said in the video, I don't know what made the final cut, but if the bears would like us to be their lead investigators, we can be bought. Yeah. And we will retest and wink, wink. It'll be fine. We'll give you an updated test every week, depending on who pays us more money. Uh-huh. And then we'll whistleblow right as the shovels go in the ground and be like, ha-ha, we're just getting so much lead. You can't build there. Also, Chicago might be Titletown, Big Cat. Oh, yeah? The Hounds, the Chicago rugby team, just won Major League Rugby. I knew that. Yeah. Well, it just happened, like, right now.
1:05:03Oh. Like, right this second? Like, right now. Go, Hounds. Fuck yes. Undefeated season. Never been done before. Who?
1:05:09PFT Commenter:How many years is the league? I think four. Okay. Four years? Yeah. Yeah. The only answer I wasn't going to take there was one. Yeah, yeah. If you said one, I would have been like, come on. It's the perfect year. Yeah. I love that. All right, who's back of the week? My first one is, oh, look at that. Champions. They look good. They got a dog that runs out and picks the tee up. Yeah. Great job putting the dog in the graph. Yep. Love that. Memes, will you go to the parade with me? Yeah. I'm a big parade guy. We should actually offer our office for the parade. If the Chicago Hounds want to do their, yeah.
1:05:41We will do a parade here in the office.
1:05:44PFT Commenter:My Who's Back of the Week, my first one is Jameson Williams, because I don't know if you guys saw, he bought a home, and he bought a home in his finest Slam a Slut record shorts. What a hilarious picture. I love this. Maybe the most aggressive shorts I've ever seen. I'll say I went and looked at Slam a Slut gear. Yeah. They got some nice shorts. They got different colorways. Mm-hmm. showed up to your house buying though and slam a slut yeah look at go let's see some of the t-shirts and stuff no free ads but look sixer shorts right there Max Max you need some slam a slut I may have to get some slam a slut I might buy those for you you should actually wear that on your wedding day I don't think that my wife would like that very much but I would love to wear them around the office do you think that the sixers You think the Sixers approved of those?
1:06:39Can't. That logo? It's not narc. This is just for sure the real logo. Yeah. Yeah. Fully embroidered. Looks like good gear. Yeah. Oh, I like the ones. These appear to be Timberwolves shorts. That's the ones he was wearing. With number 69 on the side. Yeah, those are the ones he was wearing.
1:06:55PFT Commenter:Really nice. It's a great movie. We're giving great promo to Slamislaut. The hoodies are incredible. Yeah. Also, bathtubs are back, Max. never left well did you see there's a guy trying to break the the a 40 year old world record by sitting in a bathtub full of baked beans for four days and 10 hours that doesn't sound as oh so now oh so now you don't like bathtubs i just don't think i just don't know if i got that in me baked beans 40 hours for four four four days no four days and 10 hours 10 hours so there's a guy that did it for four days and nine hours somewhere around probably the only thing he's got going for him in his entire life and his records getting broken yep um also who's back the week just getting roasted by my kids because my three-year-old gave me a father's day gift and uh on it he for my age he wrote big exclamation point and then also just said my job is to play soccer i had it i sent that you sent that to the group and i had a text written out saying really fucked up for him to put big as your age the exclamation if it was just big i think it would have been fine i think it was big with the exclamation point i also made it seem like it yeah it hurts it looked like the teacher did some editorializing with the exclamation well and i asked him did not have to put that exclamation point i asked him i was like hey how old am i and he's he confirmed he said big yeah and then i said what color my eyes he said blue which no they're not but he has blue eyes and his favorite color is blue but it was not only the big but then my favorite uh or sorry three things he loves about me is that i eat dinner
1:08:47PFT Commenter:brutal eat dinner and my favorite food is breakfast and banana bread is that true i do love banana bread banana bread is good go it's really good it's if there's banana bread sitting on the kitchen table. You're eating it every single time. I would say 1-1 tiramisu, number two, banana bread. Yeah, but yeah, big. And I play soccer, and he likes to play soccer. I think it's because our office has soccer balls. You're good soccer. I am. Memes said that. Probably a pro. Probably a pro. According to my son, yes. Okay. Zach, sorry. Who's back in the week this week is going to be Dudes Online. A lot of times nowadays online, things are taken so serious, out of context, and not so much fun.
1:09:32But did you guys see the pour beer on my crotch challenge on Twitter this weekend? Oh, I didn't. Taking over, yeah. Yeah, it was a beautiful thing to see people just having a great time slamming beers and then pouring beers. On their crotch. On their crotch, yeah. Men, women. Did you get in on it? Everybody's having a great time. I did not, but I observed from afar, and it looked like a lot of fun. Did you go out this weekend? Yeah, when I watched the U.S. game. It was a lot of fun. Oh, hell yeah. I think Zach was probably pretty busy getting his application ready for a streaming universe.
1:09:59PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah, he's definitely got to be done with that. Max, maybe put a space in there, dude. Pour beer on my crotch. Right, Zach? Zach, how's that going? I got one last step on there. Okay. Application's due in two hours. Oh, okay. What's the last step? It's the same step that he's always said. He needs to do a video. I've got most of the video mapped out. I just got two other parts I got to record. But how have you not done the video? two hours full transparency i didn't know i was gonna end today till i saw earlier today online okay got it is it do we know the time zones of when this you might have one hour yeah there's a good chance it's one it's so it's probably gonna be uh there's a good chance one hour time zones throws a thing into some things but yeah we're good wait wait wait time zones throws a thing into some things i couldn't get my the words out so i went with thing and some things what's the issue uh no yeah time zones are fine okay i'm watching i'm looking at the poor beers on my crotch the thing that max just couldn't find very funny i like this a lot it's pictures not videos yeah a lot of photos i like that old school a lot of people who are able to catch the beer like mid-flow as well pretty some pretty good action shots okay poor beer on my crotch i'm i'm gonna have to get in on this we got guys out at the bar i'm gonna pour twisted tea on my crotch at family dinners and stuff.
1:11:20This is good.
1:11:21PFT Commenter:Guys walking around with piss pants. That guy's driving. I like this one. That's a problem. Cut that one. That one was behind the wheel. This one guy just said, put a beer on your cock challenge. And then people are roasting him saying, pour it on your crotch. You coward. That's not the rule. Yeah. He tried to make it something that it wasn't. Yeah. You're trying to sexualize this. Okay. Yeah. This is good. I think I'm going to give it like one more week till it gets taken by by, you know, some company takes it or we find something problematic with it. But enjoy this week. Pour beer on my crowd.
1:11:54PFT Commenter:Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. You got any other who's back, Zach? I did have the beans in the tennis as well. Fourth one. I got the beans as well. I did. His name's Colin. He's 40 from the UK. Okay. Yeah. And he's just doing it for the love of the game? So he works at a food. It's for a charity. It's a food pantry, I believe. So they're going to donate money. People are donating money and then They're buying more food for the food pantry He did say that sleeping in it Feels like you're sleeping in a fridge Which that doesn't feel fun No I don't Listen I like air conditioning I don't know about sleeping in a fridge Did you see the photo?
1:12:30PFT Commenter:It looked messy It's outside too This might actually be England's answer to air conditioning Sleeping in a bathtub of beans Yeah It certainly wouldn't be for beer because they drink hot beer. Mm-hmm. All right, good job, Zach. Let's get to our interviews. We've got Max Homa talking more U.S. Open, and then we have our good friend George Kittle. And on the other side of that, we have the start of Mount Rushmore season. Before we get to Max Homa, he's being brought to you by our great friends over at Chevy. Chevy knows the Silverado is the best truck in the world. You know that, too. Silverado has been a big part of my take over the years.
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1:14:44PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is our good friend, Max Homa. Happy Father's Day, Max. Let's start with that. Did you golf today on Father's Day? I feel like Father's Day golf is like New Year's Eve for the casual drinker. It's like everyone's like, I'm going to golf today, even if I don't golf. You know, it hit me because I did not golf today and I've golfed every other day. We did a Father's Day, like boys golf day on like, was it Friday? And I realized today felt more like, oh, this is an off day. But I realized this morning that most dads use this as an excuse to go play golf.
1:15:27I was using it as an excuse not to play golf. Oh, yeah. That's a good point. Complete opposite. But happy Father's Day to you guys. I was thinking about it before I came in. Zach has to have a child floating around somewhere. That's just my assumption.
1:15:41PFT Commenter:I don't know. Zach? Zero kids. You sure? On record and off record, zero children. He's not a sex guy. Intercourse isn't his thing. On paper and off paper. Yeah, on paper, on paper. So we just watched the U.S. Open at Shinnecock. and the big story coming out of it is that boy do people not like Wyndham Clark he played incredible uh down the stretch the the the birdie on 16 was that was his championship hole but I wanted to start with because it was a like a very bizarre I don't remember watching a final round quite like this where the fans were actively booing an American for the U.S. Open and like cheering when he had a bad shot and rooting for anyone.
1:16:25PFT Commenter:Like it wasn't, at first I was like, oh, this is just because everyone loves Scotty because we love Scotty. But then it was like, now it's Sam Burns. Now it's, you know, Kim. So like from your perspective, would that have been tough to have everyone like actively cheering against you in that setting and like booing you and saying like get in the bunker after a tee shot and shit? I definitely like lean toward, I mean, just, I mean, I'm a people pleaser. It would suck. like that would just be hard i remember my mom i missed the first like five holes my mom texts me and she's like you won't believe this but you know they're cheering like like against him and i was like maybe they're not clapping but whatever i thought she was exaggerating and then i got home and i was like holy cow like they are going at him it felt like a rider cup except the u.s person won which is uh not a thing we do at the rider cup right it's very odd uh the only thing I'll say is there is some joy, at least in the team events, when you play away where it's like you fall in love with that silence and that groan when you make a putt.
1:17:27So maybe he, I mean, obviously did a great job, but he must've turned that like in his favor, in his head, like me against the world. Cause it was already probably really hard playing with Scotty, but that was weird. I mean, I know sometimes we'll have like, you know, people have their favorites. I would imagine everyone's going to root for Scotty every week, but this to your point was truly like anytime someone else made a putt it's like fuck yeah you're my new favorite like you're gonna win right i mean no offense to tom kim but like you know he's not an american dude uh unfortunately because you know like people like hideki like see was my favorite uh person probably in the world of golf and he doesn't even have a huge like following in america it's just very rare and like especially with like just the asian crew they're all cool but they just don't seem to get like a lot of backing from us but when Tom started going you could feel like the crowd be like all right if you're gonna do it well you know we'll try to take you to the finish line it was odd but um I mean we've we've kind of needed in golf like a heel I guess in a way and Wyndham doesn't deserve to be a heel uh Dave his caddie is one of my closest buddies but it was as just a fan of golf it was fun to have that in my opinion for a day I feel bad that it's him because he's you know one of my guys but i mean it was kind of enjoyable just because i've never i mean that ball that rolled off the green on six like they were cheering yeah go go go when it missed the green they went nuts yeah it was crazy and it was tom kim's birthday i think that had something to do with it yeah scotty it was his birthday i heard several people singing happy birthday to both those guys um but yeah it was it was strange and it was a little uncomfortable because we're not used to hearing that at a golf tournament it's like it seemed like it was almost piling on him at one point uh but then after he said he was talking to the press and he said yeah i kind of deserve some of that like i kind of brought some of that on myself so i feel i feel like a moment like today where on 16 he could have melted down and when he hit that drive like a million yards to the left and then he was stuck in the shit and then got out of that and made like the most improbable birdie of the day.
1:19:34That feels like at that point the crowd kind of said, alright, he beat us. You know, like, good job. We'll now cheer for you because it looks like you're probably going to win this thing. Do you know why besides like punching the lockers and like destroying advertising signage? Like why? I was in that group that day, by the way. That was terrifying. Yeah, it was violent. He did destroy the fuck out of that tee box, right? Yeah. So, my guess on why because when um you know is was one of the best golfers in college uh one of the best coming out of college kind of hit a rough point if you want to talk about like prodigious people but not like you know he's had a really great career obviously and um you know he's like a big he's just like a dude he's big into sports uh he doesn't do himself favors by saying we're gonna open grape i've listened to that podcast like that doesn't help but obviously you know joking like he's like a just a guy he's like a guy's guy or whatever i will say just being a fan of sports you notice in these interviews when someone doesn't full-blown own up to something and say i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry the fans just take it and go like the other way uh my wife asked me today like what do you think he needs to do to like turn this narrative and i was like honestly if after this whether he wins or loses if he gets up there and just kind of says no it's cool like i'm good with it and like he said you know i deserve it i think it'll flip around i do think that the fans were it's fun or whatever i i'm i mean it's not you know it's not harmful it's just weird for golf but i think sometimes you see it go complete other way and then the next week the fans are gonna be like this is a bit like that was a bit much so i do think that he handled it perfectly he never went back at anybody he never you know from what i saw never told somebody you know shut up or anything like that and i think that's how you win it back um but i mean like you said pft that was just weird we don't get that in golf like ever it's so freaking uncommon granted we are technically in the state of new york and it's a tough place to play but uh that was that was one of the weirdest strangest days yeah and and but for the record i i think
1:21:46PFT Commenter:everyone knows where we sit like i had no problem with it i think that's it's like makes it it was weird but also fascinating to watch like i saw some people bitching and moaning being like the fans are going too far it's like whatever people are gonna fan how they want to fan and if he wins far is not saying that like that's not too far too far is like like saying like you know fuck you or like you're a pervert or like something like that yeah or you know like say something in their backstreet i here's the theory i was thinking about this i think it's also his name and he can't change anything about his name but if he was like jason clark or you know tom clark yeah so regular just like generic name yeah do you think the hotel chain was more like a ritz carlton and less like a yes not a ritz carlton might also do him some favors if he was la quinta clark if he was la quinta clark or you know red roof in clark i think he'd be okay or like the fact that his name is a timeshare people hate timeshairs even people that bought timeshares hate them.
1:22:46Yeah. So I think it's the name, which he can't fix.
1:22:49PFT Commenter:I wonder what his middle name is. Let me see if he... Yeah, look at that middle name. If it's something like Matthew, that would be all time. It's Robert. If he was Bob Clark. Oh, Bobby Clark. Robbie Clark? Yeah. Bobby Clark. I think people are treating him totally different. Yeah, rebrand time. Maybe that's the rebrand, yeah. It's like a hoity-toity golf name and everyone's like, what the hell is this? Alright, so let's talk about the actual golf. Shinnecock, it went... It was like back and forth all week where it's like oh this day is going to look like hell and then you had a little stretch on thursday and and actually i want to start with that because there there are some people who do not like wyndham clarker like he got so lucky on thursday that the wind died down my response to that would be what happened to everyone else he was playing with too that was in that window um do you think that shinnecock uh did its its job as as being one of the toughest tests this weekend from what you saw on tv i i did i do think that they got uh this is set up i'm not all in on the i think we have uh like selective memory most u.s opens even when they're incredibly hard the first day like the lowest scores are like low um the fact that second place was 200 meant that it was incredibly difficult and to your point i hate when people say that like you got the you know he got lucky I mean, so did half of the field.
1:24:09And that's how golf works every week. Unless you play like one of those rare weeks where the wind doesn't blow at all. Everyone gets, somebody gets on the good side of it. It's like, can you take advantage? And it wasn't, you know, crazy. They got a bit hosed in the fact that when Thursday morning is going to be the hardest conditions, the event can't set it up crazy right off the bat. Because I always use Wingfoot as my example. I played the U.S. Open at Wingfoot and the scores for how hard that gets the hardest golf course ever. And the first day, I don't remember, was winning five or six under and everyone was complaining about it.
1:24:42And I played in the morning on Thursday and then very, very late on Friday. And it was really soft Thursday. But by Friday afternoon, the golf course was purple. It was as hard as it gets and they had good weather so they could progressively make it harder. What seemed to happen, though, was the mornings tended to be more windy than the afternoon. So you saw the leaders, or in this case, especially Wyndham, just playing in, I guess, slightly less wind than everybody else. So it didn't get as hard. I will say, I would much rather be playing the U.S. Open, but now being home as a fan the last couple of years, I want them to do what you – I'm rooting for the course so hard.
1:25:15I want just carnage. I want the balls to bounce to Narnia. So that kind of sucked not seeing that, but I get why. It just – I don't know. I think we've become spoiled with the U S open back in like the 2010s where it was like Mike Davis used to run the USJ would just fucking analyze people for being a professional golfer. It was like, this is my chance. I could make it myself. So fuck you guys. This is about to be the hardest week of your life. So I do as someone who doesn't have to play, I really was sad. I was joking with the boys last year. I didn't get in the open. And every morning I woke up at like four something to watch.
1:25:52And every morning it was as sunny as it was in Tahoe where I was play in my term. I was like, no, I want rain. I want the umbrellas to break. Like I want to, I want to feel like I'm not jealous, um, that I'm, you know, that I'm not there. So that, that part sucked, but I do think that they kind of nailed the course. Uh, but again, as a fan, I would have loved to see, you know, just carnage and all that, but I thought it played out really well. You could tell good shots got rewarded back shots got ejected. It was hard to pitch around the greens. Great golf shots around the greens went close. They, they, it was, it was good.
1:26:23But it's just, you know, we can be greedy and want, you know, seven over to win. Yeah, we want something a little bit. We got, like, little taste of that, too. On Thursday, I think it was Higgs. That morning. Yeah, Higgs hit that shot to, like, within 10 feet that then rolled 40 yards back into the middle of the fairway. And then Morikawa had a little adventure around the green today where he's just hitting shots that are rolling back to where he's at. You see, Harmon did it on one. Yeah, that was the first thing I saw. I was like, oh, my God, this is going to get spicy. I wish they would show the low view, like, camera more.
1:26:52Yeah, I love that camera. like that Harry Higgs shot I didn't even notice till today because where they showed it was like from the high cam and it just looks like it spins obviously it rolls forever when Wyndham was hitting his shot today for on 10 they lowered it I'm like oh now I see like that ball roll it's above the mountain like it was sick so I wish I would show that more because it makes you also appreciate the good shots because I mean it's just like I mean I know you're you're a Shinnecock uh yeah you know legend uh big cat but uh as someone who hasn't been there it was hard to picture why it was so hard until they got that camera low yeah i mean i i actually was confused at brian harman
1:27:28PFT Commenter:because that's exactly where i would have just picked up and gone to the next home so he did he he was had the wrong strategy there yeah right for a six i'll meet y 'all on two yeah and then what about on on date on on the third day on saturday wyndham clark's eagle that shot he hit can you put into perspective i mean i i i know golf a little bit but to hit a wood like that and be able to land it to a spot where it's like 200-whatever-plus down the fairway. It looked insane. Was it as insane from someone who actually plays and hits shots like that? Was that an insane shot? Yeah. I hate when they say things like there's only a handful of people who could hit that golf shot because I don't think that that's always necessarily true.
1:28:14But the way in which he did it. So Wyndham is one of the longest guys on Torrey. creates the most some one of the most speed like some of the most speed of anybody and you need so much speed to hit a ball that high and curve it that much and hit it that far so like just to be able to do that is like remarkable and then to hit it online it's like a whole other thing and then to do it in the in the moment when he you know i think it's so easy with a four or five shot lead or whatever he had at the time, four shots, to just get to the house and keep the four. It's what Tiger was the best of all time at.
1:28:49But Tiger just was able mentally to play against himself, and he would turn a four-shot lead into a seven-shot lead so fast because he's just not playing you. He's playing himself. He just had that, and Wyndham did that. And when you look back, it's so easy to look at the tournament as, oh, it was the putt on 16 that won. but it's 72 holes like him stretching that lead made today it's hard to lose a six shot lead because of like uh because it's it's or sorry when you have a six shot lead it's hard to lose just because you can make mistakes like he did today but he built that so well and i think that golf shot was you know he kind of just like let his nuts hang and and hit a shot that i just don't think a lot of guys have the speed for and i that was you know that's one of those you you kind of keep down in your brain for a long time because the height that thing had was obscene.
1:29:45And those greens are like tabletop. So just to even hit the green was crazy. But he got it to land soft. I mean, that was something else. Yeah. Yeah. And then the guys like Tom Kim and Burns coming from behind, it seemed like they were staying very much in tune with what was going on on the leaderboard. I think one of the announcers even said, yeah, I was telling Tom Kim exactly what happened on the last hole because he's trying to figure out where he stands. is that something where you can almost be checking in too much on what the other guys are doing yeah i've been a big check-in guy because i would like to know um i think i've talked to other players about this a lot people have different opinions i do think that it's usually the smartest to start on around the 10th hole on sunday um because i don't know what you're supposed to do prior to that like i'm you know of course we'd love to birdie the first four or five holes you can't just like make that happen but you know with nine holes you want to know how how aggressive because like i think tom was saying that because 17's pin is back left it's not in exactly an accessible location but if you need a tweet to you know you know get within if you need to get the three basically it's like okay i'm gonna change my strategy and aim it at that flag which is you know on a thursday you're not even looking at it every you know everybody but sam basically did what you would do on a thursday which is just hit it short right and try to two but um i found it a bit interesting.
1:31:03I just think it's because they changed the green speeds a few times, but I thought that a lot of those golf balls on the, on the greens were just had no pace. And I would have thought people would have got a bit more aggressive being whatever back, but looking at it as, you know, trying to, as a golfer brain was, I think they messed with the green speeds throughout the week with the wind and you know, how they had some of the texts out that we sped them up or whatever. And I think it made people very cautious and it's not a place it look like that you could feel real comfy but uh i get why they asked i i i definitely think there's a fine line but if you're the type of guy who wants to know i would just want to get as much information as possible uh just so i know that i didn't look back like later in the at night you know tonight as they're having dinner and being like damn i wish i would have known i needed a birdie or else i would have like you know maybe hit eight iron at the pin on 17 instead of being like you know 30 feet will be fine this is a hard hole so i'm on that side of the aisle but i'm sure there is a fine line of like obsessing over what everyone's doing or not but i think that everybody was probably doing you know the normal like kind of correct thing as far as strategy went
1:32:10PFT Commenter:how much you mentioned green speeds can you explain it to us how much the the change in green speeds can affect you like day to day and how drastic is it because we're playing we play at courses that the green speed is literally the same every day no matter what like maybe there's little rain slow and and and basically for for golfers like us we just blame green speeds uh when we miss a punt being like oh that's way faster than i thought it's like i don't even i don't know what i'm looking at so like when you wake up you have a report being like here's what the green speeds are today and you just from that and does it does it mentally mess with you if it's like one day's slow one day's and then the next day's fast or how they adjust it yeah i i would say we don't typically get a i mean i'm sure you could find it i i don't ever like look at a report as like how fast these greens are or whatever but if the you know event text us and it's like hey we're gonna speed them up or we gotta a lot of times at the open they'll text be like hey we had to slow them down because it's gonna blow 40 miles an hour or whatever so you're like aware of it and when you get to the practice green you're grinding it but the tricky part is and the benefit we have the reason i think the players always shoot so low on these like very difficult golf courses is if you rolled out to pft you did it you played in the players championship yeah you roll out to the players championship but you didn't get a practice round you just roll out and you play the golf course and it probably takes you a few holes to get used to like how firm the greens are how slow or fast the greens are um even like how a ball like reacts out of the rough out of the bunker whatever when we're there i mean we get to spend monday through wednesday like over preparing for the pace and we hit a thousand putts and you just get so good it's it's it's the steph curry thing of like this rims low like it's because that felt good and it went it didn't go in it's it's borderline that where there's certain putts i'll hit and right off the face my old drill used to do is i keep my head down and i tell my caddy you know that went three feet past or maybe a foot short or that was good pace and you look up and you see and if you're like on it that means you got a good feel and there's some putts i hit just on a regular tournament where i'll hit it i'm like all right off the face i know that was the correct speed hopefully it goes in or whatever it when they say that they're manipulating it you just one it makes you a little gun shy because you're just so you you i guess we take for granted how lucky we have it at times that it's so fucking predictable whereas i go play my home course i grew up on that's a i mean it's lovely vista valencia but it's a fucking dog track like it's not well like kept and it's you know whatever and you have balls that bounce up in the air on the green you've got some greens that are way faster than others like there's just it's not you know we're spoiled it's not a it's not taking care of like a pj tour course and it makes you just like kind of a little bit anxious when you have those you know even like a 20 footer uh scotty did it today on nine they said every single person left that putt short from where he was and that's crazy 15 feet like we don't really mess up pace from that distance but it's just you could just tell because of that that the that that we're like creatures of habit we just get really used to what you know it what its stroke feels like to go 15 feet and i that's where i thought that the guys today just it's just felt like everybody was a bit shy for the most part and i just think that there's a bit of that um it's difficult to kind of relieve yourself of that kind of unpredictability and angst like is this the one that's going to be the fast one i don't want six feet coming back and those are that's bumpy polana greens you don't want three feet ever and i don't know it's like sam's putt on 17 like everyone did the same thing uh as far i mean windham was the only guy i saw miss it left uh but he was the only guy who seemed like he had pace to it and um it's just you can see the same guys miss the same putts the same way over and over and over again and there's something to that that like everyone's seeing and feeling the same must be like tension in that because it probably looked fast as shit and it just isn't but you're you're in your head being I don't want three feet, man.
1:36:02I just don't. So that makes it tricky. Again, we get a little, again, spoiled as far as when we prep. That's just what the greens end up being for the week, and it clearly was a little bit different this week with the weather. Are some guys getting too good at bunker shots? Because I feel like there was more than a few times this weekend where a ball would roll into the bunker off the green. It looked like a good shot, but whatever fucked up little undulation was there, it fed it into that bunker. And then it's like, oh, well, they'd almost rather be in that bunker. That's a good place to be. I feel like bunkers aren't as much punishments as they used to be.
1:36:39I agree. I mean, they're like technically hazards and they're where we want to be at all times, especially you go to a par five. It's like you're just trying to get into a bunker because, again, going back to predictable, every bunker is just like so well maintained now that it's like you just know what you're going to do out of it. My complaint this week as a fan of Carnage, I didn't think the Fescue did anything. No, no. Bones is one of my closest buddies. I go to his house for Thanksgiving. He's caddy for me once before, but we are close, close. I love that man. So, this is not a shot. But he two times today said how awful a lie was in the hay on nine with Dub and then again on 16 with Dub.
1:37:23And on nine, Wyndham almost made it. 16 he hit it like 180 yards up the fairway yeah i was like you're teasing us like i want you're telling me this is gonna be hard i'm excited for like the not top 10 play uh not obviously for windham just for somebody and just like everybody was just hitting it in there and like a 12 everyone just whacking it up on the green so i i miss that but yeah we need more i don't know penalty i guess the bunkers this week i get that you know kept talking about the pebbles but i'm with you pft every time somebody hit it in it just looked like it was like yeah of course like that's easy i don't know if they're trying to make it sound worse jack nicholas did it at his course for a while where his rakes had thicker um whatever they call teeth and when you went in there it would sit down and again as a player it's annoying but it's also like man you shouldn't be in the sand then you know like you can't stop but again we're so used to sand's the best place we could possibly leave you could spin it you could hit a high it's way better than long rough but as i get older and And again, I mean, I can see in 10, 15 years when I quit and I just watch golf and text you guys about it, I'm going to be the old guy being like, it's a carryover, dude.
1:38:33Like you palm the basketball. We got to make this shit harder. We got to start calling penalties. Roll the ball back, make the teeth on the bunker rigs wider. I like that one. That's what we need to do. Bigger teeth. I love that.
1:38:46PFT Commenter:I got a golf etiquette question for you, Max. um when you're on the course maybe it's an event maybe it's just you and your buddies is there any rule in terms of uh posting pictures when someone has bad nipple shot there wasn't until like a week week and a half ago okay all right so i well all right so my grandfather now i should be penalized but before that i shouldn't have been if you do it again okay that's fair but yeah no you're you're good i am it i mean you i i'm sure this already went around the internet but the first thing i thought i was andy dwyer in the office when he ran the marathon and yeah i mean i don't think you could chafe and golf on the nips but if you weren't brother i was i that would have been shocking yeah i mean i know what you're saying crazy now it's a rule but also golf is a sport where everyone you sign your own scorecard keep your own score like you should make you should be responsible for your own nipples no no you need to be self-aware i mean come on yeah we got to be self-aware um but fuck man that was that picture really ran through the group chats yeah yeah also congrats me i mean you've won the fucking nba championship who cares yeah in the long term um yeah max did that change your opinion at all about titty fucking those were pretty juicy
1:40:13PFT Commenter:oh man by the way I need to you're not on Twitter anymore right no god no there's a guy who's been tweeting at you and I believe me and PFT as well oh Konky for like 2 ,000 days yeah he's at 1 ,397 days should we say like when we get to 2 ,000 days I think we gotta make this happen yeah i i will say i don't want to blow up his spot but he hit a big mark at some point while still on there and i dm'd him i'm like listen man like i i've got kids like i got a job like i can't just make this happen but if this works out i'll fly you and if you want a buddy out and we could play some golf and he said something back he's really like seemed like a nice kid but he's like I just don't feel like this is far enough.
1:41:05It's kind of become part of my day. Maybe when I hit X amount of days, we'll do it. And I'm like, all right, cool. And then I've been off since. I didn't know he was still doing it. But I do feel bad that now that's probably not going to happen. But I'm with you. I feel like we got to do something because that's crazy.
1:41:24PFT Commenter:1 ,000. So this guy, Conky GBR, he's a Nebraska fan, has been tweeting at Max every single day for 1 ,000. I can't believe he's still doing this. 1 ,397 days saying the tweet is just day 1 ,397 of tweeting Max Homa to play a round of golf with me. And he has done it every single day. And I think we were tagged in the original tweet because I see it almost every day. So shout out that guy. I think 2 ,000. And we'll come too. 2 ,000 will make it work. We'll pay for Conky to come to you and we'll join him. and that would be a blast come on out that'd be so fun yeah two years from now two years from now two years from now maybe u.s open weekend hopefully you'll be playing maybe the weekend after the u.s open and perfect you know what 2028 let's make it let's make it 1 ,776 days for america okay i like that oh i love that yeah so that's a little less so that's like that's about it's a little more than a year that he's got to hit okay yeah we can make that work he's gonna be sometime That's time in the fall.
1:42:28PFT Commenter:Oh, that's football season shit. If that somehow landed on 4th of July, could you imagine Jake Marsh's fucking head exploding with the woe? Hank, do you have a question for Max about the tournament today? You said you're best friends with Wyndham's caddy. I really enjoyed the, after every single shot, the good process there, good process there. He's going to get a lot of shit for that. Are you going to give him shit for that? Is that something he's always done? Or is that just a thing this week? Because I was wondering if it was ever not going to happen. But after every single time, the mic picked it up.
1:43:05It was like, good process there. Good process there. Good process there. It got. So yeah, before every shot, after every shot, have a good process. I don't know. That must be something that Dub asked him for or maybe the sports psych asked him for. It has to be something like that. Yeah. But yeah, no, that will get. That'll be the next big thing. Next time we play golf, every time he hits a shot, I'm going to tell it to him. I will say Dave is, when I'm in California, he's got this sweet little Duffy boat, and he'll pick me and my oldest son up all the time, and we'll just roll around. If that thing is not a yacht this summer, the next time he picks me up, I'm going to be very annoyed.
1:43:43Yes. Can you walk me through the step-off? Because Wyndham had a step-off today. Oh, it was bad. The step-off, it was bad. It was in his own head. He stepped it off way late, and then he stepped right back up to it, missed the putt, easy putt. What's the process like? What's your process, Max, in terms of when you reach the point where it's like, I got to step this off? Every time you step off or somebody steps off, I always think just from golfer brain, that was good because every time I don't, I'm just like, why did I not back off? But the process in my head is when I am playing like a team event, like a U.S., you know, Ryder Cup or President's Cup, I refuse to back off because it causes so much.
1:44:28You know, you heard the crowd. The crowd went nuts. It was like he already missed it. So, I will say when he set up to it, who knows if this is why. This is truly just like me being a, you know, fan on my couch. But I thought he was aimed, kind of fucked up. Like from what I had seen. I don't know what he read it as, but I was glad for him that he backed off. Cause I was like, I don't think that's a prayer to go in for, cause we got to watch the putt obviously like four times. So when he got back in, I was pretty excited, but I, that dealing with the groans is hard. I pride myself or I'm proud of myself when I back off.
1:45:00Cause it means that at some point I had a doubt. So I think typically when you'll get over a putt and what I think would happen to him is he could probably got over the putt. And as he was over, he was probably telling himself, man, this feels like low or high. And he's like, no, it's probably, he's probably having like a full conversation in his head. And finally, it's like, dude, start over. We don't have to do this right now. So, again, I think it's always the right thing. But the way things were going with how the crowd was, he was going to get some kind of grief or whatever you want to call it.
1:45:28I don't know. I mean, that's not grief. But he was going to hear it when he did it. But it's because you're having an inner monologue. And when you're playing your best golf and when you're most locked in, like a given shot, you just get over it. You have an idea. You go through, like, going back to Dave and Hank's question. but like your good process is I get over it. I take a look, look down, you know, feel it and go. There had to be something in his head where it's like, you know, ah, this feels high. We've got to hit it soft. And it's like, that was not part of the quote unquote good process.
1:45:56So it was good. He backed off. But that was, you know, right when he, right when I saw it, you're like, oh God, he's going to get yelled at. Yeah. Yeah. I like that answer too. If you do it in a team event, then if your teammates are watching, they might think like, oh, what's going on with Max? but if it's you doing it you know that it sounds like every step off is a good step off I think so well that one wasn't because he missed true that's a good point but he could have missed either way yeah the really rare step off that you guys would never see but it's probably did not happen on that hole on 17 US Open but every once in a while it's a fart like just every once in a while I promise because you don't want to swing especially on a drive you don't want to swing real hard and it like come out that's a once in a blue moon but I you know you can kind of tell with the guy especially when you're playing with your boys because they'll step over and do the little leg shift and you're like nah he wasn't nervous he just had to fart.
1:46:50Shake it out I've done that with a swing like an unexpected fart as you're swinging it throws everything off. It's an impossible yeah it's impossible the game's hard enough we can't we can't have to do both things
1:47:01PFT Commenter:yeah alright rowback question R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com promo code take 20 % off your first purchase Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts That's Roback.com, promo code TAKE. You ready, Zach? Oh, what's going on, Max? How are we? I am great now, Zach. How are you? Good woman. From one confirmed not father to one confirmed father, I want to wish you a happy Father's Day. Thank you. I was curious. I feel like there are quite a bit of AWS who do play golf, and with that, a few who probably get frustrated with their golf game. What's the most frustrating part about golf to you? What's your one-one, I kind of hate this about the sport, and how do you kind of work through that?
1:47:35oh there's a thousand um the most frustrating thing in golf well bogeying a par five makes you want to drive your head through the sharpest firmest window possible disagree because what's worse no that's a great
1:48:03PFT Commenter:net six net six net six bogeys are what i try to do now i forgot sorry pft bogey golf i've been following your tiktoks yeah um that tilts me uh three putt on a par five makes you just you do so i guess it's like any small miss but you do so much good and then you can't shake it in from four feet and you're just like i just went 394 yards to you know 12 feet in two shots and then it took me three shots from 12 feet to get it in the hole uh that's a lot there's a million things my my caddy and i went to a dinner in canada last week and there's this woman there at the bar she's truly like the most like frustratingly positive like i wish i could be her but i can't she's too everything was the best and it's awesome but you know we like laugh about it but she's like the sweetest person on planet earth.
1:48:56I was like, you know what, John, I want to take her golfing and see if she still is this happy. Cause all it takes is one horrible shot. Uh, when it was funny is when them wins this week, two time us open champions, probably on cloud nine next week at the travelers. So hit a bad shot on Thursday and just be like, why am I doing this?
1:49:13PFT Commenter:Yeah. It's the worst game ever. So there's a, there's a, an endless list of answers to that, Zach. Um, but mostly to, to, to answer as easily as possible. It would be something like a, you know, a short miss or a three putt on a five, something right after you do something great, like doing something bad. Cause it's just like, I just want to soak in some joy for like a moment. Yeah. Good question. Great question. It's incredibly reassuring that at, at your heights in golf, being a professional, you still have those same thoughts of like, this is the worst game ever. Sometimes. And then that, that's great.
1:49:46Yeah. And do you have a followup set? Oh yeah. We can rip follow up. Yeah. Uh, When it comes to rain golf, are you doing weather gear or are you just ripping the polo? How are you so ready for that? He's always got a follow-up. Always. Yeah, I'm a rain gear. I hate the umbrella, though. It's too cumbersome. So I'm a rain gear. I'm from Southern California, man. I'm soft as it gets, but I would avoid the umbrella. Follow-up. Follow-up. I did see a video probably about 11 years ago. You went to the Hollywood sign for the PGA. was that your really your first time seeing the hollywood sign or was that more of like uh hey we're at the hollywood sign uh no very first time when you're from there you have zero interest to go there but they wanted to go there for the uh for the shots i would imagine i mean i'm not you know i i'm not a big like i obviously not from chicago but when i went to chicago i want to go see like the chicago tribune stuff and like i didn't get to go but i go up the big tower is it sears tower whatever it is will see wait but i imagine if you live there you probably aren't doing that so that's kind of the hollywoods i appreciate that i'm gonna get in zach's head real quick you had seen the hollywood sign though oh well yeah yeah i just never went up and like
1:51:00PFT Commenter:did the running canyon thing yeah and so when you have been to chicago you have seen the lake that's just like that huge body of water that's just right next to the city yeah it's yeah yeah Yeah, because I'll stay in a hotel. It was only like three turns from it. So, of course, we had to walk to it. Yeah. So, Zach, what Zach is talking about is he lived in Chicago for an entire year without putting his eyes on the lake. For a second, I thought we were on the same team. That was a debunk quick. No, that would be like asking Max, has he ever seen the ocean living in Southern California? But that's what Zach was getting to.
1:51:35PFT Commenter:He thought he was going to end this, and he was going to walk out being like, see, Max lived in Hollywood for 30 years. He never saw the Hollywood side. No, no. He had seen it. He had never been up there. Yeah, definitely. Now that I get it, Zach, I've seen it thousands of times. It's giant. And it's nowhere near the size of the lake. Nowhere near. I'd like to rescind my follow-up question. You got greedy. We were there on the follow-up. Max, I got to tell you something. Canada, somebody really warmed my heart. They yelled Batgirl at me and it really just clashed it back dude. It felt really good.
1:52:16PFT Commenter:Max, thank you so much for doing this. Let's not make this a tradition because we want you back in the majors. We'll just play with Konky instead. You know what? You're banned from appearing on part of my take. The Monday after the US Open. Unless you win the US Open. Then I'll definitely... That's actually way better. Max, you're the best man. Thank you so much. Max Homo was brought to you by our great friends over at Reese's. Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, the gold standard of candy. It's the official candy partner of Barstool Sports. For almost 100 years, Reese's Peanut Butter Cups have been a fan favorite.
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1:53:25PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. He's one of our favorite guys in the whole world. he's the best tight end in the NFL it is George Kittle from the San Francisco 49ers TEU is starting we're running this on the start date of TEU so you guys have been I feel like every year it just gets bigger and bigger what is the big thing this year with TEU you had Taylor Swift last year is it Mike Kadik and Dana Beers is that what the big reveal is this year no Dana said he's going to shotgun 10 beers on stage page okay in front of everybody so that's our that's our plug that's how we sold it to all the guys and that's how we sold it to all these lovely sponsors for all you guys listening on uh your podcasts yeah great we got great sponsors everywhere look at all the sponsors you're doing a great job of that yeah whoever's in charge of that yeah well done yeah we love we love reese's reese's are fantastic oh wow you guys are you guys are on it good job way to produce way to produce we got the Reese's lounge here all right wait but how many how many tight ends are coming this year because it is pretty insane what you and Greg and everyone has been able to do in terms of the growth of it this is actually the crazy thing is we have over 90 tight ends locked in which is the most we've ever had and what I want to say is the craziest thing is we sit on an invite usually mid-april when guys are going back to like OTAs because they're out of the offseason they're at the football stadium they're not as busy and usually we get like seven guys signed up by June, like literally April and May go by and we'll have seven signups.
1:55:03And I have to literally text a hundred people. And then this year on the second day, we had over 30 guys signed up. And I don't know if that's because they're excited to go, or it's because out of the 30 guys, all 30 of them were bringing their spouse, significant other. And if they're excited to potentially see Taylor Swift, I don't know what that was. That's my guess, but we're excited to have everybody. We have like, I think we have 92 guys signed up. It's going to be a great time. And, you know, hey, the surprise one is we got Tony Gonzalez coming this year, which we're pretty excited about.
1:55:33Hell, yes. That's awesome. Yeah, Professor Emeritus or whatever you want to call him. So you have – Yeah, he was pretty good. That's a lot of tight ends that you have in one place. Do you guys do, like, name tags on the first day? Ooh, we've done that. We did that when we had 45 guys show up, but that's a lot of name tags. I think I'm just going to hand – hopefully I have a Bud Light with everybody's name on it. We all shotgun one together with your name on it. That would be a good way to do it, right? That'd be good. Yeah, that's a lot of dudes to remember. I do love that it's growing, though.
1:56:03It's pretty remarkable what you guys have put together. Do you do, like at the end, are there like superlatives? Like you give out awards to people? Last year was the first time we did an award, and it was for Titan who took advantage of the entire Titan U, and that means you take advantage of both on the field, in the classroom, and at the bars. And Brady Russell won it, the Titan slash fullback from Seattle. He won it last year. he took full advantage we were very proud of him for his performances in the classroom and off the field that was the guy that he was a he was a captain wasn't he in the super bowl i think so yeah i think so yeah i mean he was fantastic dude with a mullet i think they sent him out just to just intimidate yeah he warms up with a shirt off it was great to see has anybody ever flunked out of teu oh travis tries but he's just so good that it doesn't matter yeah yeah yeah it does it
1:56:57PFT Commenter:doesn't matter he's just so talented how sick or of people asking you how the foot's doing how how sick are you of that So it is what it is. You know, it just, yeah, it's whatever. I'm having a great time with it. Hey, you know, today I actually, so we're airing this on Monday. Today is a couple days ago. I got to run today, hit over 16 miles an hour. That was pretty sick. Is that, what is that fast? That's pretty, when you get on the treadmill and you turn it up to 16. Okay, that's really fast. No, I'm in, yeah, I'm in cleats on the field right now. So I'm 21 weeks out and I'm running over 16 miles an hour.
1:57:31So I'm having a great time. Single leg box jumps. We're cutting again. It's having, we're having some fun.
1:57:36PFT Commenter:All right, so someday when I come back from all my injuries, maybe I'll run 16 miles an hour. So no, my days of 16 are way out of the picture at this point. Yeah. Are you having to, like, hold yourself back? A little bit. I'm a little bit ahead of the schedule. So I'm trying to, you know, try new things. And my trainers are like, yeah, just simmer just a little bit. So it's just basically what my surgeon told me is don't be a dumbass. And I'm trying my best to just not be a dumbass. Yeah. Yeah. Because I feel like you're, I mean, the way you're wired, you are one of the true football guys in the way that like you just love football.
1:58:11PFT Commenter:You love contact. You want to be out there. So I would imagine it is like a little bit being like, hey, almost like when you like feed a Labrador and you have to give them the bowl with the spirals so they don't eat too fast. That's what they have to do with you in your rehab. That's definitely me right now. Yeah. No, they are. I am on a tight leash. but um i'm pulling as hard as i possibly can yeah yeah hide his cleats when he's done he's not he can only work out once a day yeah yeah um how sick are you of being asked about the substation during your recovery that's actually been it's been a minute what do you guys want to talk about well so we have a substation here too and we think that it's affecting us i'm fully bought in on the idea that that substation is the reason for like six of my uh calf pulls my hamstring tear i'm blaming it for everything kidney stones yeah kidney stones you name it my graduate my my uh early onset dementia yeah everything like i everything is a substation's fault so i know what you guys are going through because if you if you start to even think that it's a problem then it could actually become a problem even if it's not you know i think um when we were getting blasted with that question i think uh kyle yushek actually answered it great who's also coming to tight on you we're making fullbacks great again i love that very cool yep but um he said as professional athletes you're looking for anything that'll make you one percent better right ice tubs red light stem cells whatever it is makes you one percent better well like what if something makes you one percent worse so we you know that was our biggest question and you know kudos to the niners the niners the nfl sent out a couple scientists whoever is um has a doctorate in that I guess, or a degree in whatever substation power plant stuff is.
1:59:53And they said it's at a safe, normal amount that will not affect us. So hopefully that helps. But I will say if no matter what happens, if anybody gets hurt, that's going to be the first thing that people talk about. Yeah. And how divorced were these scientists that they sent out there? Because we talked to the guy that it wasn't that guy. Okay. It wasn't that guy. Yeah. That might be the most divorced guy that we've ever interviewed. Yeah. In fact, I know it is. That was a great guest.
2:00:17PFT Commenter:yeah we did 10 minutes about his divorce and in and out burgers yeah there's worse things to talk about i guess yeah uh has it dawned on you that you're entering your 10th year in the nfl that's pretty fucking awesome dude it's pretty crazy just thinking back on it my second year in the league you guys almost big time me and now we're in year 10 and i've only been on the show i don't know what how many times i've been on the show 10 times probably we would probably have you on whenever you wanted to come on the show yeah if we're being honest but we won't reach out to you during football season too much.
2:00:46You're a busy man. We do feel bad during football season. Don't. I'll come on your show whenever you guys want me. It can be Wednesday in the middle of meetings. I'll be there. That was a mistake. But, yeah, 10 years, dude. It's crazy.
2:00:57PFT Commenter:Can you go back to George Kittle coming out of Iowa, getting drafted to the 49ers? In your head, obviously you have a lot of optimism and you have belief in yourself. But was there a part of you that was like, hey, look, if I can just make it a year, that would be pretty – because you weren't a first-round pick. Was there a part of you that was like, I'm just trying to make it day by day, and if someone told you 10 years at that moment, you'd be like, get the fuck out of here, man. 100%, I'd be get the fuck out of here. I mean, literally, when I got drafted, I was just like, all right, what do I have to do to just make it through OTAs and not get cut?
2:01:33Then we got to training camp. I was like, hey, how do I make the team in training camp? If I can make it as a practice squad player, if I can make it as the third overall guy, and they traded our guy my rookie season, And I was starting week one. So I had no, I was not imagining that. I thought I was going to have an easy coast, you know, just try to figure it out as I went. And absolutely not. No, I was thrown in the fire immediately. And I'm really glad I did because it was very beneficial to me and my career. Yeah. If you were to go back and talk to, uh, talk to little Greg, maybe the day that he got drafted, would you give him any advice?
2:02:06No. Just do it. Yeah. Do, do what you did. um the best thing i did as a rookie that um i learned at the university of iowa was like shut up and no one should know who you are based on how much you talk like no one should be like oh that's a funny guy they should just say oh yeah that guy plays well that guy plays hard like you don't want to be as a rookie you don't want to be known as the funny guy you don't want to be known as oh he uh he drives a sick car like you want to be known only for ball yeah and my It's funny, we have a running backs coach. His name's Bobby Turner. I think he's coached for 75 years in the NFL.
2:02:42He's the man. But he literally told me, he always tells me, he says the same 10 stories all the time, which is great. But he's like, you know what? He's like, back to your rookie season, man. I never heard you say a word. And then, hey, your second year, now I just can't hear you shut up ever, man. And I'm like, yep, that's me. So I took a year, learned as much as I could, and then kind of let my personality out once I kind of had it figured out.
2:03:07PFT Commenter:Yeah, that's really good advice to follow. When you got drafted, did the 49ers say to you, like, hey, we think you can be like an incredible threat catching the ball? Or was it something? Because, you know, in Iowa, you guys just build tight ends, but it's not like they catch the ball a ton. You had 48 catches in your college career, the entire career. So was there a moment? Did they tell you, hey, this is what we think you can become? Or was there a moment where Kyle or, you know, John Lynch or someone was like, oh, fuck, you can catch? Like, you're this explosive and awesome catching the ball, too?
2:03:45PFT Commenter:Like, we know you're a beast blocking, but you can do it all? You know, it really started by rookie OTAs. We had rookie minicamp, and we had two practices. And I think out of, like, the 15 balls that were thrown my way, I caught 14 of them. And there were, like, choice routes where you got to dice somebody up. there like fun routes and i caught everything and we went around to otas and i would just have like super explosive days where like you know you know like we'd have a keeper where i fall out the back side i'd have like a 60 yard touchdown i they had me running fades on like the fifth day because i was routing people up and i was just like oh this is fun like i'm just having a good time and then week one i'm running choice routes on third down never run a choice route my entire life yeah that's crazy i was a big basic and corner guy at iowa and now i'm running choice routes um win routes whatever you can do like hey we need you to win on third down i'm just like all right sounds great i'll try my best i got you and then it worked yeah i mean it worked out it was pretty clear real fast that you were going to be uh you're going to be like a different player than you were in college yeah it's it's been really really fun to watch you as the years have gone on i'm curious like you're bouncing back from an injury now um so your focus is on like getting that part of your game better but are you adding any new wrinkles like how are you growing as a player besides just making sure that the the heel is okay right now i'm basically restarting at square one like i am basically reteaching myself how to run block pass pro get out of a stance like i'm literally just starting to square one that i possibly can because what i know is i have the rest of june i have all of july and then i have four weeks in august to get in the football shape so like i'm just like right now i'm stage one just reteaching myself how to play football and be explosive again and that's we're getting to i i feel like the the 49ers are are a real team to watch this year because last year pretty much everything that could have gone wrong did go wrong for you guys and you still won a playoff game which is crazy and it's a testament to like the culture that you have there and the guys you got in the locker room and your coaching staff and everybody that in the season from hell you still accomplish what most teams dream of at at the start of every year.
2:05:52And I feel like bouncing back, especially that must have sucked watching the Super Bowl and seeing what happened in your stadium. I feel like that might light a fire. To an extent. You know, I'm not really, this is what people are asked, like, do you guys need to clear out your locker room and build a whole new locker room? I was like, well, you can look at it that way. Or the last team to play at our stadium won a Super Bowl. So that kind of seems like good juju in my opinion. Good vibes, yeah. I didn't think about the locker room. I'm just saying like just from like watching them on the field, It must be a little bit extra hard.
2:06:24I mean, it is what it is. It's a Super Bowl at a stadium. It didn't really bother me. I know it bothered 49ers fans, but at the end of the day, we get another shot at it next year, and we get to play at Seattle. They get to come to us again, and we get to hit people in the face. So I'm just going to do my best to win all those games.
2:06:39PFT Commenter:I like to hit people in the face. Is Sam Donald coming to T-E-U? No, he's going to Italy. Isn't that crazy? I'm sure that if he was around, he would go. but when we went to tight end you a few years ago, Sam was there. It was kind of at a crossroads for his career. He was there throwing passes to guys, helping out at TU, and now he's Super Bowl champ. It's nuts. It's so sick. Because you're friends with him. I know you guys are rivals. But you're friends with him. Did you still believe somewhere in him like that was going to happen? i mean the one year i got to play with sam just watching him i was like goodness gracious this guy's a good quarterback like his arm strength his decision making like i knew he was a starting quarterback in the nfl and then you put him in seattle with elite receivers a really good offense and one of the best defenses possible i mean what are they a top two defense like that's a that's pretty quarterback friendly so basically all he had to do is be himself and they win and they kicked the shit out of everybody so i mean like i definitely believed in sam especially because we're ginger brothers yeah yeah who's throwing passes this this week in uh nashville i finally convinced brock purdy to show up and he lives 10 minutes away from me so that's a plus we got brock purdy we got mac jones so he's gonna be a fun time make sure you have a lot of bananas ready a lot of bananas for mac and then we got um nick mullen cj bethard and brandon allen so three of the boys for the boys and Brock Purdy.
2:08:11That's a good group. Who's also a boy. Yeah. It'll be a fun time. I invited Dak. He is unavailable. I invited Josh Allen's a maybe. You know, he is a new dad, but I told him that we're golfing at Troubadour the following week. It's part of the group. And he goes, oh, I could fly in for that. So you never know with Josh. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds like Josh taking advantage of that trip. And then what about on the defensive side? Have you guys thought about bringing in, like, some linebackers to be like, you know, just boost some egos. Like we're going to run some dummy routes against you. No chance.
2:08:43They want to do it? No chance. No, no. You know, I'll say the only new position this year, we have juices coming in to coach fullbacks because so many teams now are playing, you know, 12 personnel, two tight ends. And they're using that tight. The second tight end is a fullback sometimes. So he's going to come teach some of that stuff, which I'm excited about. We got my old tight ends coach, John Embry. He's coming in because he's taking the year off so he can actually come hang out. He's been a coach who he coached me, Tony Gonzalez. He's a pretty good coach. And then we had Tony G up there. I mean, we have a pretty good group this year that I'm excited to learn from.
2:09:14Yeah. What do you know about any of the rookie tight ends? Ooh, you got to give me some. I'm terrible at rookies besides the giant Oregon guy that went to the Jets. Yeah, I was going to ask Sadiq if you had an opportunity to hang out with him before. I've not met him. I mean, he looks like a stud. So hopefully they just make it easy on him. because the hardest thing about being a rookie is just like trying to keep your head above water. And if your offense is friendly towards you and they take care of him, he'll develop very quickly. Just don't, don't do too much and make his head swim.
2:09:45PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. Smart. He's a freak. So like, just give him and like put him in an advantageous positions and let the dude ball out. Yep. It's Colson Loveland going. He is. He, he texted me a couple of weeks ago. He was like, Hey, I missed it. And I figured something out. I can make it work. So Colson will be there. I'm excited about it. I love that. Yeah. And if you did want to get just like, some tackling dummy out there to work like, you know, as a scout team. I'm sure that Will Compton doesn't have anything else going on. Will and Taylor are actually, so we have an open stadium this year, which I'm excited about.
2:10:14Like, it's free tickets. You just have to go buy your ticket even though it's free. Yeah. And Will and Taylor are walking around with microphones interviewing people in the stands the entire time that we're tied in you. It'll be hilarious. Okay. But I was going to say, we could have Dana out there. You can try to cover some guys. Yeah. Yeah, Dana would actually be, yeah, 100%. you don't have to sign a waiver he's gonna sign a waiver though uh he i don't think he knows how
2:10:38PFT Commenter:to write he he doesn't know how to sue or spell yeah like he wouldn't know how to sue so you're good all right sounds good we have this on recording he doesn't know how to sue he won't sue we're good he can't write yeah physically does not understand just make you dinner yeah make him take his shirt off he'll be fine you got this wow that'd be amazing this is funny i'll give you this one i've been tagged in this for like the last year and a half i don't know if you guys have seen this but some guy is accusing me of bullying um who was your guys's old like rookie from like 2020 2021 he was like helping out with pmt football guy really young guy billy football yeah billy football and like me and greg were on we're like hey take your shirt off and i'm getting accused of bullying for making someone take their shirt off this one guy just keeps tweeting at me well that's very bizarre that's weird it might that might be billy actually under a burner if i had to get oh now i if i remember you guys were like having a who can bench more contest that's what it was so i think billy might have been trying to bully you and then you re-bullied billy yeah and you're like let's see the packs billy so i would i will agree that you did not start the bullying no what he i would just say being like that's just that's a football culture thing like you you just say name school signing bonus take your shirt off yeah it's easy going it's just kind of a rookie initiation thing let's see what we got are you guys doing like a rookie talent show or anything like that we we do every single year i will say this past year was by far the best rookie show that i've seen our rookies definitely put out this past year and i'm i like our rookie class a lot we have a lot of like 24 25 year olds which is insane but i think they're mature enough to handle the rookie show who who has the best performance in the history of the rookie show um we had a d tackle last year cj west he i think it was cj west he redid nick bosa getting pulled over by the cops i love that like he learned he went out with like a fake car door on and he hired a police officer to come in and they went through the entire video that nick did that was that was pretty funny i thoroughly enjoyed that he had the whole room laughing john lynch loved it um i got i want to play a game called uh let's make some headlines so i I got two questions for you that maybe will get picked up or aggregated.
2:12:51PFT Commenter:You guys have to play in Australia this year. We do. How much do you hate playing in international games? Well, my only international game is Mexico City, and that was one of my favorite games of my career because it was 99.9 % Niners fans and we were the road team. So I'll take that any day of the week. Going to Australia, I look at it two ways. If you're just focusing on the football aspect of it, But flying 15 hours to go somewhere else and be in a completely different time zone to play football doesn't really make a lot of sense for the health of players. But the fun part of playing a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to play in Melbourne and play in front of what's like 110 ,000 people on a sixth stadium in Australia, it's going to be pretty sick.
2:13:36So I'm kind of more on that. I'm looking at it that way. I'm just going to have a great time doing it. The fans are excited. It's going to be a good time. and I think we're going out like a week early too so like we'll get adjusted
2:13:47PFT Commenter:but the player safety thing is real like when you get on soccer fields and fields that are not used to you guys like that field in Brazil a couple years ago felt like it was the slipperiest field in the world it was crazy to watch that shit is, that's where I get a little upset because it's like, you know, they preach player safety and it's like, you're just not doing the things, like obviously I know how it works, but it's like and now you see World Cup is playing on grass Like put grass everywhere. Put me on a soapbox, man. I mean, if you can put grass in MetLife and in SoFi, I think you could do that year round if you really gave a shit.
2:14:22I mean, like that's my opinion. Like the players, I think if you, if you pulled every single player, I would say probably 90 % would hit. They prefer grass field. And I'd say 10 % would say they don't care, but 90 % of guys, they prefer to play on grass. And so it's just like, well, you just show that you can do it. So then why don't we do it? Because that's what the players want to do.
2:14:40PFT Commenter:It's a simple math of like the NFL is billions and billions of dollars. The most popular sport we have. The thing you'd want to protect more than anything is the health of your players. Because when good players are playing, the ratings are higher. When you lose quarterbacks and you have a Monday night football game with like a backup and a third string. Like it's just simple math is like do the most you can do to help the players. So we're with you on this one. well like at the end of the day like the what i learned as a rookie is like your body's your business and the most money you'll make in your entire lifetime hopefully is what you make on a football field and so like that's how we have the tree we have to be like safe with our bodies and we want to take care of our bodies and we're also the nfl's best investment because when you like you said when like patrick mahomes is playing josh allen is playing caleb williams is playing like that's great for ratings that's great for football and then when they're not playing it's just kind of like um oh what who's on thursday night football this week shit that's what i have to watch on thursday night football so like why not just spend a couple extra million dollars which you we we know they all have to just grasp all the fields yeah it doesn't seem that difficult yeah um all right then my other headline is uh with with teu and knowing like your dad was a coach uh do you think you're going to be in coaching when you someday retire i cannot wait to make a hard-nosed football team in high school in Nashville Tennessee.
2:16:04Oh, I love it. I love it. I cannot wait just to be up there and just instill grit, effort, and hard work into these kids. And we're not going to run the wing tee, but we're going to run two and three tight end sets. And we're going to run outside zone and gap scheme down these kids' throats. And I can't wait. Pause, but it'll be good.
2:16:22PFT Commenter:Can you tell if a guy loves football just by, like, at TU, right? You guys aren't putting on pads. but you get your hands on a guy, you block it up a little, maybe not this year with your Achilles, but in years past, can you tell if a rookie loves football and loves contact by just getting your hands on him? I try my best to not judge anybody until shoulder pads are on because some guys look really bad. For example, Charlie Warner, he looks great in shorts, I'll say that, but when he puts pads on he in my opinion is one of the best run blocking titans in nfl like that guy moves mountains he's fantastic and so i try not to judge guys to them but you can get a feel of guys based on like their attentiveness the questions they ask and like how dialed they are and when we are doing drills when we are doing classroom work because some guys like you they go above and beyond like we had um there's been a couple like young guys in years past who like on the side like we were in between meetings and like they come up to whether it's me travis or greg and they ask us like multiple questions on what we just taught i'm like that that makes a ton of sense uh thomas fedon he's a giants guy he played at nebraska he every group that i was in he followed me around he asked me 20 questions throughout the entire time and i i love that like why would you not ask someone who's done it for 10 years advice yeah yeah yeah why not it's fair I got a stupid question for a headline grab.
2:17:47Dumb headline opportunity here. Yes. How good do you think Wimby could be as a tight end in goal line packages?
2:17:58Hmm. If he was only running a fade, maybe. I think maybe. I think part of me thinks he would get the hell jammed out of him at the line of scrimmage, though. Yeah, you're probably right. He's skin and bone. He's got no base. Not a lot of base. and also if he tried to run like a crossing route across the middle, I think he's getting taken out pretty quickly. Yeah. Like if you're over 6 '6", you're having a tough time on a football field. Why is that? Unless you're playing O-line, D-line. Like if you're a receiver or a tight end and you're over 6 '6", your ankle to like hip, that's a huge target for safeties to just run through.
2:18:39Right. And you have the green light to run through them now as safeties. You can't go high. So everyone's someone, someone say that is more dangerous. I think I would, I'd rather get hit up high than in my knees. That shit sucks. Yeah. And there's not a lot that you can do about it. If you're going across the middle, you can't like protect yourself as you're catching the ball. And when you plan and that's the thing is like grass, some would say like is safer for those instances where the cleat plants a little bit, gives a little more forgiveness as you get hit. Maybe not as a tight end for Wimby, but maybe, maybe just as like a field goal blocker.
2:19:11Tucker he'd be a great field goal rusher I mean if he put on like 40 pounds he'd probably be a solid right tackle yeah that would be fun he I don't know that he's got yeah I don't know that he's got the the killer mentality to be a I mean if he just if he just did like the Trent Williams ninja stuff where he just swats and swipes people's faces out of the way yeah I think he could be he could he could handle it like LeBron would be a hell of a left tackle yeah he'd be in he'd be a really good left tackle.
2:19:38PFT Commenter:I like that. Alright, so TU is going on this week as we're running it. George, you're the absolute best. We love having you on. We've got one last question for you. Roback question. RHOBACK.com promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, Polos, Hoodies, Joggers, Shorts. Roback.com Can I get 30 %? For you, I'll send you anything you want. If this is a good answer. Yeah, yeah. Roback.com promo code TAKE. Alright, I don't know if you've met Zach. You might not have met Zach. Try not to bully zach so that other yeah go ahead zach what's going on is zach is zach a rookie zach is uh he just finished his rookie year oh okay so yeah he's not a rookie what's up man what's going on man uh thank you for your time today it's good to see you nice to virtually meet you not physically meet you but i was curious i did see you at wrestlemania here recently and i was wondering uh if you were going to go with an alter ego kind of a ring name uh but it had to be a complete alter ego and could involve your government name what would you want to go by in the ring?
2:20:37See, I've been asked that question a lot, and I don't want to answer it because if that day ever comes, I don't want to be stuck to the name. So I'm pretty open to it. I would love to make a random indie league with a Lucha mask on, though. Some type of Lucha name I think would be really fun, and I'll just follow Pentagon around, Penta Jr. I'll follow him everywhere, and I'll just be his protege. you want a lucha door mask that's a scary sight i have i have over 10 lucha masks from penta and they're all over my house like we have them on little like mannequin heads and they're just throughout my house i'm obsessed he seems to be like he has custom niners ones here the joker one he has a venom one they're all over my wife gets scared of them it's a sick way to decorate it see thank you that's how i explain it to her he's a smart guy i like him he's he is yeah Hank, if you listen once in a while, you might learn a thing or two from him.
2:21:33Oh, that's true. I love that. Zach has passed Hank in terms of star power. Stay grounded, Hank. That's fair. One thing I tell young guys and I tell older players is young guys, be a sponge, learn from everybody, whether it's good or bad, and you can filter it out yourself. And old guys, guys who have been there, learn a thing or two, the young guys, the way to do it. So just keep your ears open, man. Good producing, Hank. Oh, that's a shame. Substation. The substation got him.
2:22:05PFT Commenter:The substation. Damn. When he comes back, it's going to be... Damn. Oh, all right. Finish what you were going to say. Sorry, we already stopped the interview. Hank's talking shit. Just because Boston and one of this year, for the first time in your life, you can be a little humble. finish the sponge thing that was good i feel like also the celtics lost to the sixers i also where'd your locker room go bro and live shutting down oh that's all right we'll figure it out anyways hey we'll edit it in post yeah anyways so sponges i tell the young guys be a sponge you want to absorb information from all the older guys whether it's good or bad like you can see how somebody does it the right way and you can see how somebody does it the wrong way and you can filter it out hey is this how i want to do it and then for older guys also be a sponge because sometimes young guys teach you a thing or two not all the time most most of the time they're not the smartest but some of them have figured it out and it's like i always that's why when i'm in a hot tub next to the younger guys if i'm in the field i like i don't bring my phone to a lot of places because i'm just like i just want to talk to you guys to see if i learn anything or to see if i actually like you so just be a sponge all the time yeah me and zach will hot tub hot tub it up be a sponge.
2:23:19Hank seems more like a brick is what he seems like today. That's fair. That's totally fair.
2:23:24PFT Commenter:Have you seen him play basketball? Yes. George, you're the best. We love you and have fun at TU, man. Thank you. I thought PFT was going to ask me if he was going to steal Brandon Ayuk from here. Okay, so the question I was going to say the question I was going to say I've been on 10 times. You're scared to ask me a question? Come on. I know that it's a sensitive thing because you like the guy. I'm going to let you guys talk about you like the guy the whole rehabbing away from the team that can be tough on everybody so i i get that um how how good is he still like the last time you saw him play like how how excited should i be to probably have him on the commanders um the last time i saw a uke was call it week six seven or eight i don't really know but um i used to make it a habit of mine to go out early in the morning before meetings to watch him train because he'd always be out there early and i watched him run over 22 miles an hour and stop on a dime so he still got it um or at least you know that was a year i mean eight months ago so i don't really know but um yeah you guys have fun with that i guess yeah thank you that's perfectly put i'm gonna have a lot of fun with that perfectly put i guess still got it have fun with that i guess yeah yeah yeah you you have fun with all that comes with it yeah i mean he seems like he's very active on social media um which you know that's a great way to connect with fans and brands and sponsors.
2:24:43So it seems like this, once he gets to us, then he'll finally be happy and every bad thing's going to go away. Yeah, you're right. I wouldn't be happy either after a team paid me$130 million. I know that can be, well, the taxes in California, he's probably like, oh, this sucks. I got so much tax. Yeah. More money, more problems, right? Yes. So yeah, we'll take him. He'll make less money and he'll be happier and then he'll stop posting weird stuff on social media. that honestly sounds like a game plan okay yeah okay good then we're all in agreement sounds like a win-win for everyone yeah oh in your guys's opinion though i'm not going to answer this because it's my team obviously when when do you think the niners move on i feel like they um have been hoping that the phone rings and i don't think that the phone's been ringing Yeah, so they don't have to.
2:25:34They don't have to if they don't want to. Oh. Unless they just get sick of answering questions about them. But do you really care? Yeah. Do you really care to answer questions?
2:25:46PFT Commenter:And eventually someone might get desperate, and then the price goes up. So there's a big game of chicken then that we're playing. That's kind of how I see it, yeah. I will try to ask as many annoying questions as I possibly can to John Lynch so he gets sick of answering my questions. i'm gonna i'll be doing my part i'm doing my part seems like a great player that's what that my official comment is seems like a great player yeah yeah he's he's an alien for sure all right george you're the best we love you uh hopefully see you soon and have fun at teu man yes um i love you both um i love i love four out of the five guys in that building right now hank needs to learn a thing or two yeah yeah stay hungry You know what Hank needs?
2:26:28He needs someone to hit him really hard. You remember in Tropic Thunder? And he goes, hey, hit that guy really hard in the face. Yeah.
2:26:36PFT Commenter:Yeah, he does. Dana. Where's Dana Beers? Dana Beers isn't in there. No. Dang it. Max will do it. Yeah, Max, hit him in the face. I can do that. I can definitely do that. Max, I'll Venmo you$500 right now to hit Hank in the face. Really hard. Really hard. he just ripped ass back here in the studio yeah
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2:29:23PFT Commenter:Okay, Mount Rushmore time. We ready? We're going to ease in with one. You won't get it so controversial, but it is deli meats. Mount Rushmore deli meats. Please send all Mount Rushmore ideas. Tweet him at Zach. He is keeping the full list this year. So tweet all of them at Zach Or Instagram DMs Any Mount Rushmore you want to see I think we're also getting to the point In the history of this show That we might have to just do Some repeats with a little bit of like We can maybe do Just like Not word for word repeats But maybe with a twist Yeah how many Mount Rushmore's have we done Approximately It's got to be a ton Because it's 10 years of it So when you tweet us your Mount Rushmore ideas most of the time we've done them, but I think we're getting to a point where we could maybe start doing, again, not like word-for-word repeats, but similar ones.
2:30:18PFT Commenter:Because we have half this, you know, the entire booth wasn't here five years ago. Okay. So to remind every one of the teams, it's going to be Big Cat and the Booth Boys. It's Hank and Zach, and then it's just me. Now, I'm curious to know about Hank and Zach and your guys' prep for this. What was your method? because I saw everyone else was kind of like they were talking to each other, getting ready. You guys seem to be kind of separate for your prep. Is that fair? Well, they got ready last minute. Me and Zach texted, and then we met, got on the same page, and we have a plan and a strategy. I also think it would be fun, PFT, if, and you don't have to do this, but if we had some point in, let's call it July, maybe the end of July, there is a trade window where you could pick up one of the people from the three-man team just and you don't have to sounds like you already don't want no i'm saying just to add the element of like craziness you could easily just say no we can hang it over our heads i love my team okay i love my team like you don't love your team big cat i got shut the fuck up hank you fucking idiot great locker room chemistry trying to make it interesting that we like the the just the i did We've never done one versus two versus three.
2:31:36PFT Commenter:Sometimes a trade deadline thing, you can end up ruining the team chemistry. It was not my idea. It was someone else's idea. Hank first. The world. That was definitely not my idea. Don't gaslight me. It was not. Whose idea was it? It was me. Thank you. Take it back.
2:31:55You brought it up on the show. No, he brought it up on the show. No, he brought it up and then you brought it up as an official idea. I think memes brought it up off the show. Yeah, off the show. Big Cat loved the possibility of it being Hank versus the world.
2:32:08PFT Commenter:And you went like that. And then I said, all right, forget it. And then we're like, all right, fine. We'll all have a chance. All right, forget it. Forget it. I'm just saying, I like my team. I'm not right at this point. I want to see what my team's got. Yeah. And then we'll see what happens if we're going to be buyers or sellers. I was trying to establish it before so that halfway through the season, where people are like, you change the rules. You're like, hey, just throw out an arbitrary date. It's like he could. He could pick up from you guys, too. I'm not saying no, and I'm also not saying no to trading away people that are on my team right now.
2:32:41So if, like, you know. A Mount Rushmore trade deadline would be fun. Phone's always open. Yeah. Okay. Make me an offer. Who's going to go first? Let's let the solo guy go first.
2:32:51PFT Commenter:I already hate Hank. Yeah. What are you doing, Hank? We got to do the lotto machine. Here, we'll do, because a lot of machines will be. Okay, one through 30. I have one through three here on a random number generator. Okay. So do you want to pick PFT a number? Between what? One through three. Yeah, I'll take three. Okay. Do you want to pick Hank? You pick. No. Let me do the number generator because Hank. I have it right here. PFT's seeing it. I don't care. I don't give a damn. Pick a number that's not. You pick three. We haven't started Mount Rushmore season yet. We're already fighting. Did you pick three?
2:33:28PFT Commenter:Did you pick three? Zach, what do you want? Let Max... One, two, one or two. Let me do it. Yeah, let me do it. I know, I know, but someone else pick a number between Zach and Hank. Pick a number. Pick a fucking number, somebody. Jesus Christ. You got some money on this team, Hank. Hank, thank you. All right, we have one. Go ahead. All right, we all saw it. We all saw it. All right. What pick do we want?
2:33:58Let's just go first. Let's just go first. Yeah, let's go third. No, let's go first.
2:34:01PFT Commenter:All right, fine. We'll go first. Rip it. All right, Mount Rushmore, Deli Beats. Snake draft. Snake draft. So Big Cat goes first. Hank and Zach go second. I go third. Yeah. Correct. 1-1. And then we'll change it every episode. Run the football. All right. Run the football. Turkey. Okay, good pick. Good pick. Did you have it, Hank? We did have it. You had turkey? It's actually turkey. Yeah. What? It is. We will go with Salami. Is that your pick or Zach's pick? My pick. Oh, Zach. It was my 1-1. It was Zach's 1-2. Was your 1-1 Zach Turkey? Yeah. I think Turkey's a good pick. It's a little dry. Oh.
2:34:47Yeah. But it was your 1-1. Passing our picks. It was 1-1. But it was your 1-1. Okay, got it. It's true, though. It is. Turkey's run the football. Yeah. Yeah. If I've said before, I think if I could eat, if I had to only eat one thing for the rest of my life, it would probably be a turkey sandwich. Okay. PFT. Solid choice. But you don't. Yeah. Turkey like salami. You can just eat salami. Turkey. What? You can eat. I think you could do that with turkey, too. You can't. No one. No one just eats turkey.
2:35:17What are you talking about? Turkey. Turkey cheese. Whatever. Okay. Okay. I'm going to run the football too. I'm going to go with ham. That's a good run the football pick. Taking ham. Second pick. Would be probably my first pick if I'm just talking what I find to be delicious. Pastrami. Good pick. Love pastrami. Pastrami is such a quality deli sandwich choice. I love it. Zach, we would like to take prosciutto. Great pick. Great pick, Zach.
2:35:51PFT Commenter:Memes? Take it, memes. Memes actually sent us a meme before this. Devontae Mac, no matter what meme, but it had this meat on it instead. Pepperoni. He kept on saying, the prep was just, he kept on saying, we have to get pepperoni. And we got pepperoni. I like pepperoni on a sub, yeah. It's not super versatile. Yeah, it's not versatile, but it's a fine pick. Max, I'm going to give you the ball on this one. This is when we get into the Italian meats. You think we take five? Yeah This is my pick I think seven is the right pick Okay, then do it Alright, this is another run the football pick We're going to go roast beef Roast beef I don't like roast beef Okay It's probably the dream from Hank It's probably the dryest Well, you're probably bad roast beef I kind of see Okay, I know what's going on I actually like this I want both of them No I'm not talking about PFT PFT's just doing a regular draft I know what's going on over here Hank now has the fan favorite on his side So he feels immortal with Zach on his team So he's getting a little You guys have a super team I said I don't like roast beef Turkey you can't eat Zach said turkey was dry I just said I don't like roast beef I don't Okay How does that make me immortal?
2:37:20How does that make me immortal? How does that make me immortal?
2:37:21PFT Commenter:I think you're feeling a little cocky with Zach on your side. What does that even mean? I said I don't like roast beef. That's exactly what I mean. Because I said I don't like roast beef. You're walking around with a little pep in your stomach. Yeah, a little bit. Tail feathers up. Exist. Big time exist.
2:37:39Did someone say prosciutto? Yep.
2:37:41PFT Commenter:Yep. Did someone say mortadella? Nope. Nope. All right, we'll take that. Great pick. Good pick. Thank you. Not a bad pick. Not a bad pick, Hank. I'm going to go with chicken cutlet.
2:37:59I'm not going to say anything. I don't want to be invincible. A deli meat. Was it a deli meat? You can't get a chicken cutlet at a deli?
2:38:08PFT Commenter:No, deli meats was the Mount Rushmore that was proposed. I think that opens up a whole new draft if that is allowed. Okay. All right. I won't do it then. But I understand. I get what you're saying. I'm willing to give you that pick, but the rest of us can't switch to that sort of sandwich. No, no. I'll pull it back. I'll pull it back. It's deli meats. That's not a deli meat. It's a meat that you can get at a deli. But that's not a deli meat. But there's so many we could go and. Yeah. All right. And we're just doing sandwiches. Okay. This is, you go to the grocery store, you go over to the deli counter.
2:38:40You're getting this sliced meat. All right. Off slicer. You're bringing the slicer out and it's like, this is your meat. Okay. Then I'm going to go with Gabagool. Love it. Okay. Great pick. Give me the Gabagool. Okay. The best scene, I think, in the history of The Sopranos is when Tony announces to his kids with Carmelo that they're getting a divorce and he's like packing up all the shit from the house and he's somberly packing up the Gabagool from the fridge into his bag and that's all that he takes from his house when he leaves. Yep. And then for the last one, how do you guys feel about tuna salad?
2:39:16Not a deli meat? All right. I was asking how you felt.
2:39:23PFT Commenter:That's more in line than chicken cup. Okay. So for my last pick, I will do roasted chicken. Okay. Yeah, that plays. You can get that. Yeah, you can get lots of roasted chicken. You can get that. You can get that for sure. Yep. love my team our strategy was 2-2 so Zach I'll give this one to you we would like to take buffalo chicken great pick
2:39:49PFT Commenter:11 didn't get picked right nope good one so percenta great Italian meat what do we miss corned beef pastrami is similar yeah what else did you have on the meatballs that's why if you went there I was going meatballs that's why you were almost willing to give me the two discussions we had the two discussions we had was do we have to clarify what type of turkey because I thought we could just do a draft on turkeys because I like smoked turkey it's a little dry yeah it's a little dry no one just eats it no one just eats turkey he's tuned out now so it doesn't matter And then the other was memes was saying that we could take anything that you could get at a deli.
2:40:38PFT Commenter:So we were thinking about taking steak. And I was like, we can't do this. Like, you go to any type of deli and you're like, that meat right there. Yeah. Which would have been too much. Yeah. What else got left off? Pork roll. Hank, anything? I had some pork roll this weekend. Anything, Hank? It's so good. Hank, what? What? What's wrong? We went into this draft being like How could this get contentious? Big Cat being like I know Hank's been physical Because I said I don't like roast beef No but it was also the turkey Like you can't eat turkey Big Cat Jack said the turkey thing No no but you said you can't eat turkey We got this Hank You said you can eat salami but you can't just eat turkey That's a crazy thing to say There's literally a holiday My bad I forgot that Malo Rosemont is kumbaya I will be kumbaya from here on out.
2:41:31Great. That's not what I'm doing. God forbid you try and like. Don't gaslight me. God forbid you try and like. I thought that was the spirit of this competition. I apologize. Yeah.
2:41:40PFT Commenter:I made a comment that I think that you might feel a little invincible with Zach on your side. Because I said roast beef is. I don't know. It's the turkey. You can't eat turkey. No one eats turkey. But are you saying I didn't like push back in other Mount Rushmore's? No. So then why? Like, why is me pushing back me being invincible? You can't eat turkeys. I don't even understand it. I think it's more, you just got to be more coherent in your arguments. I don't understand what can't eat turkey means. Turkey is a good deli meat, but it's got to be, you know, you have turkey sandwiches. You got turkey cheese bread.
2:42:14Like eating a slice of turkey, unless it's super fresh, not the greatest. Max is going to say he does it all the time because he eats everything. I get it. I wish you had said that.
2:42:23PFT Commenter:I would have been like, I kind of understand it a little bit. This is much stronger. Turkey lean meat. I do understand it a little bit more. Turkey is good. You're talking about like pepperoni. You eat pepperoni out of the bag. Correct. You don't. Okay. But now I'm invincible. Oh, come on. Turkey pepperoni? I didn't understand your argument. You said you don't eat turkey. Okay. Turkey pep is not good. No. It's garbage. Yeah. Are we going to get over this or no? No. Kumbaya. Good pick. No. He's gone. He's gone. All right. So here's what's going to happen. and Hank is going to go into the next Mount Rushmore going over the top kumbaya out of frustration and sarcasm.
2:43:04And then... I don't want to be invincible. But then he's going to trigger himself into being actually pissed off by the end of it. So we're going to get another at least like 20 minutes of kumbaya out of Hank. Good point. Good process. Yeah. Good process. All right. Good Mount Rushmore. I thought Hamona Biriko is really good. But it's not... I don't know if that ought to call it a deli meat. Yeah. Bologna. Bologna. Bologna feels good value way around there. Yeah, bologna is a good one.
2:43:32PFT Commenter:I'm okay with bologna not being on the Mount Rushmore. Mortadella is just the better bologna, though. Yeah. Yeah. Did we miss any of the Italian meats? I feel like there's so many. We've got pepperoni. We've got salami. Mortadella. Capicola. Yeah. We've got so porcetta. Capigool. Yeah, I think our whole list got picked. Yeah. Except for corned beef. but this is good about Rushmore. Zach, how do you think it works? Are we good? I think our team has a good list. We're not. I think our team has a good list. I don't like the vibe that we're ending this show on right now. What do you think about Hank?
2:44:10I agree. I'm sorry. There's a lot of outside noise. Our team's going to throw blinders on, and we're going to run the ball here.
2:44:14PFT Commenter:I'd like to apologize for saying Hank feels invincible with Zach. That was an out-of-pocket comment that was undeserved. Thank you. Okay. I apologize. It was based on the turkey argument, but I apologize for saying that. Good process. Are we back? Yeah. Never left. Love Mel Rushmore. I'm just happy memes got pepperoni. Yeah. Memes is just... He just kept on saying pepperoni. Our pre-Rushmore draft, it just kept saying pepperoni. Can you just add nipples there? Yeah, I don't think. It's rude. See? This is a new memes. He doesn't even get upset. The old memes would have been like, I hope you die in a fire.
2:44:59PFT Commenter:The new memes is just like, hey, just a point of clarification. It was my nipples that were very weird and captivated the internet, not my entire breasts. I do love pepperoni. Pepperoni is great. It's only Italian meat for me. That's it? That's it. Oh, man. You don't like gabagool? No, just pepperoni. Okay. All right. I'm going to say right now, that was a heartfelt apology. I don't think that me and Hank are back. I don't really understand why Hank is this upset. I'm not upset. I'm not. No, but I can tell you mentally you're like you're checked out already on Mount Rushmore. No, no, no, no, no.
2:45:35It took one shot. This is a fitting start to Rushmore. Hank is done with Rushmore. That's not true. He's a competitor. That's why he's fired up. Maybe. Yeah. We're good. Very fired up. I got Zach. I can't be stopped. Everyone's favorite.
2:45:52PFT Commenter:Yeah. invincible we did go in we had the conversation before we're like this is a pretty straightforward Mount Rushmore I don't think there's anything like everyone else's picks I don't really know they would just be our picks so it's like I don't even know what I'd our entire board got picked yeah the buffalo chicken was our late sleeper so good pick alright numbers 50 0 Exist That's a number That's a number It's a non-existent number It's the number that doesn't exist I wish I could go back in time I wish I could go back in time It's the number that doesn't exist It is in the machine 20 minutes ago I hope this is zero I hope this is zero 22 29 I'll go 60 99 Jalen Brown doesn't hit him That's good cohesiveness
2:46:57Hank I'm sorry for hitting you in the head No you're not
2:47:00PFT Commenter:Oh that was more fucked up than what I did Well that was 54 Kittle did say I'm willing to fund a new segment Of hitting Hank in the head I was like I don't think so He did pay He did pay Shout out Kittle He's a man Thank you Did I like it The new segment 500 Yeah Yeah gave him 500 bucks Meem's like I'd do that for free Alright Not anymore You wanna do one more One more number Yeah yeah Sure Run it back 22 60 50 29 Same number Same number What number Zero
2:47:47PFT Commenter:93 93 93 Anyone? Bueller? Nope Happy birthday to Scotty Scheffler today Happy birthday to Richard Jefferson Happy birthday Dustin Johnson Happy birthday Clyde the Glide Happy birthday Pistol Pete Happy birthday Kurt Warner happy birthday ladenian tomlinson matt light zidane happy birthday randy jackson and tom kim yeah what with the other guy they spent the whole day talking about his birthday i already i already mentioned him early in the show i literally brought him up saying happy birthday to him counts counts any any other uh i don't think you have to have your back hank anything else you got against today's birthday wishes hank nope okay love you guys oh wait uh oh Uh-oh.
2:48:38Uh-oh. No, just quick birthday. I just want to say happy birthday to my dad. That was all. Oh, nice. Happy birthday, Zach's dad. Happy birthday, Zach's dad. Very cool. Yeah. Zach's dad. Even though you fired him once, even though your dad fired you once, we could still wish
2:48:52PFT Commenter:happy birthday. Still wishes happy birthday. That was between the white lines. Yeah, it's in the game. Oh, happy birthday to my nephew. Okay, nice. That was probably more important one that I should have thought of earlier. It was my friend Matt's birthday yesterday. happy birthday Max's friend Matt yep shout out Matt
2:49:12I think two days ago
2:49:15PFT Commenter:happy birthday to happy birthday to summer yeah summer started today so set your clocks forward yep next weekend next Saturday love you guys
2:49:37Thank you.
2:50:08Thank you.
2:50:37Thank you.
2:51:08Thank you.
From the publisher
Wyndham Clark wins the US Open at Shinnecock after getting hated on all weekend and we talk about the tournament plus Wyndham's past with locker rooms (00:00:00-00:31:44). We talk World Cup and USMNT is the best ever plus NBA Draft coming up (00:31:44-00:46:39). Who's back of the week including Guy in a bathtub full of beans, Serena Williams and more (00:46:39-01:13:27). Max Homa joins the show to break down the US Open, the crowds hating Wyndham, how he hit the eagle on 16, plus golf etiquette questions (01:13:27-01:52:06). George Kittle joins the show to talk TEU, his rehab from his Achilles, how much he loves football, Brandon Aiyuk and more (01:52:06-02:26:06). We finish with Mt Rushmore of Deli Meats
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