Mike Florio, Browns Find A Coach, LeBron May Have Played His Last Game In Cleveland, Zac Uses Anonymous Tips To Get To The Bottom Of Belichick + Fyre Fest Of The Week

27:36and the throwback jerseys were jerseys that lebron james debuted think about that 20 years ago he debuted the jerseys they were wearing them as throwbacks last was there a patch i don't know if there's another he had his patch and then the other one he got emotional with his the video they played for him it was it was a nice scene because again i i think he might be coming to the end here it feels like his body is finally caught up to him um so this might be last time in cleveland They played a tribute video for him. He teared up. Yeah. How many times has he gotten a video tribute in Cleveland?

28:12Don't know. Five. Eight. Oh, my God. That's his eighth. Well, I guess when he goes to Miami. It was. Tribute video. When he was in Miami. So that's the eighth time he's been playing a game in Cleveland. He's gotten a tribute video. That's actually impressive. You've gotten eight of them? Longevity. Yeah. Yeah. So going to Miami, that's a natural tribute spot when he comes back. Yep. Then when he returns to Cleveland, they do a tribute video there. No, I think it was eight when he was on the opposing team. So that doesn't count all the tribute videos for home games. I think they've just done it every single time he's come back to Cleveland.

28:49I guess I get that with LeBron, though. Yeah. No, I agree. I don't think it's – I actually saw it – like people were clowning it. I saw it more as, holy shit, to be that good and play for that long, you get eight tribute videos? That's insane. Maybe he'll remember that this offseason. If he's like, maybe one more ride, maybe go back to Cleveland, cap it off. Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy. Eighth time. But yeah, this could be it for him in Cleveland. What are you looking up, Max? You're just watching the video, the tribute video? Yeah. I just wanted to see it. Feel free to pull up the Sidney Sweeney stuff from the other day.

29:25I want to do some more investigation. Okay, I got you. He's got a tab ready to go. Bookmark. You a bookmark guy? I bookmark not creepy stuff sometimes creepy stuff not creepy just you know hot red-blooded American male hot yeah yeah it really is the algorithm is just insane now you're just looking up gifts okay let's let's let's do an ad because we're gonna I mean Barkley did say there's one thing I'm sure of this is last year with the Lakers he's not gonna play with the Lakers next year which you could kind of you could glean that from he has one year left on his contract from Some of the stuff that was said, not just by LeBron, but also by Magic.

30:03Really, those two tweets by Magic, the fact that he went out of his way, he put Luka's name first. Yeah. That would never happen in the past. I do think he should go back to Cleveland. I do too. He should finish it there. I mean, they still love him. The tribute video is like, it's still home. Yeah. Yeah, he should go back to Cleveland. Okay, let's get to Zach's reporting before we do that. Draft Kings. Super Bowl 60 deserves a sportsbook built for the moment. DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner. The Super Bowl 60 puts you right in the center of the biggest game of the year.

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31:50Okay, Zach. what did you find so i have gathered a few things a couple talking points that could point to why bill belichick was not a first ballot hall of famer okay i'd like to share them with you guys okay how many titties did you get okay i did do the math i was i did do the math on tits we talked about the email on the same episode that we talked about sydney sweeney pretty heavily as 29 of the emails were breasts okay that's good that's a really good percentage and i'm i'm a little worried i opened up so many tits on my work computer a bit a couple minutes ago that i'm going to be in a meeting your work computer at barstool sports but it was but because it was so many breasts let me tell you the most breasts let me tell you a little story zach all business pete who watches all of our computers he literally is bugged into all of our computers do you know what i got him for uh secret santa i don't know like eight years ago what was that gift i got him a browser's password.

32:47Do you know what he did? He tried to log in right away. Boom. We are free and clear for the rest of our lives. I was sitting right next to him. He tried to log in to look at hardcore dick and vagina porn. He can't do shit to us. That would be a great thing to take into that meeting if I was put in one. I got you. Thank you, sir. Just give us a sampling of the emails just so we can double check that ratio. Yeah. Okay. So 29 % breast. Great ratio. Great ratio. Wait, your mic's not on. You guys need a light back there because there's so many times we've been loose with it. There's nothing about that with its light.

33:24We've been loose with it where there's been a lot of talking when the mic's forgotten to be turned off. And then we got to get some kind of system. It's 90 % on me. Okay. Do you guys have your own buttons? Yes. Zach is the only one who sometimes turns his mic off to talk, though. Okay. You just keep your mic on to. Yeah. Got it. Okay, Zach. This first talking point is from Carlos Mencia. Insiders told him that Belichick may be going to coach another NFL team, so he cannot be elected to the Hall of Fame. Oh! Yeah, so that'd be interesting because of the eligibility after being out of the league.

34:01He could get elected to the Hall of Fame and coach. There's no rule against that. Sorry, I would like to remain anonymous. Carlos Mencia. You said his name right away. Carlos Mencia is a comedian. No, but he spells it differently. Mind of Matia? No, he spells it M-A-N-C-I-A Oh, okay I think we have to bleep all of this He said he would like to Zoom in He said anonymous And he also said rename anonymous Does that not say rename? Yeah, that says rename No, we're saying your name, dude Spell it correctly He said rename anonymous What if he gets mad? Well, we'll have to deal with that later Sorry you're mad Okay, this is Acosta doing journalism Okay, what a tip from him Journalists should always name their sources.

34:47His tip was Bill Belichick might want to coach the NFL again. You think anybody in the room was like, we can't vote him in because what if he comes back next year? I don't think that was the calculus. Yeah, they should have thought of that. Someone in the room should have said, hey, if we don't vote him in, pardon my take, they're going to have an email where it's tits and tips. Tits and tips to Zach. Actually, we might just have to have tits and tips to Zach as a monthly segment. Yeah, I agree. It would be an all-time hater move, though, if you owned an NFL team and you hated Bill Belichick. You hire him, and then that resets the counter on his Hall of Fame club.

35:22Yeah. Tits and tips, though. Tits and tips, Zach's rumor corner. Just every couple weeks, and we just say, hey, look, these are all imominus, and they're also just rumors, but just throwing it out there. I think we could get some. We'll definitely hit on something. Oh, certainly. Yeah. We can get behind tips and tits. Yeah. Newsflash. You want tips and tits or tits and tips? Tits and tits. Tips and tits or tits and tips? He just said tits and tits. You just want tits. Double tits. Tits and tips. Tits and tips. So tits first. A Zach rumor corner. And maybe you eat some steak tips while you're doing it.

36:04That just. Don't say tip picks. I could get all the way in on that. Tip picks. Tip picks. Tip picks. No, it can be photos of the tips. No, don't send tip picks. No, no. Good point, Hank. Yeah, because those would be hard to read. If you're going to send a tip, if you send like the article, a photo of the article can get blurry. He's talking about the tip of a penis. That is also something we, that's a different email address. I'm not going to be monitoring that one. I don't know what you guys want to do with those. This is actually a good idea for a news station. If you have any important breaking news, just Photoshop it on top of a pair of tits and get people to read it.

36:36Okay, let's keep going. I agree. That would be very good. just watching the news on tits. I think they do that in South America. This is a great idea. Yeah. This next tip is from Matt McLean. He says, A voter who spoke on condition of anonymity said that deflate gay and spy gay came up in the talks. This guy sent you a... It's a screenshot of an Instagram story. It's a screenshot of an Instagram story from another source. That tagged ESPN. This is good, though. Thank you, Matt. Matt, appreciate you reaching out. Okay, so they did bring up Spygate. Yes, sir. According to Matt. Okay. This was a little bit of source-ception because it was sources inside of the sources on the attach file, but we got to the tip of it.

37:21Okay. This next one is from Glenn Mandel. Okay. Says his uncle is a voter. Our anonymous part of this is really struggling. We don't have to say their names, Zach. Well, you guys said you're going to shut out their Twitter and Instagram. Oh, yeah, that's right. Okay. Go for it. So Glenn says that his uncle is a voter and that Bill has been blackballed from the Hall of Fame due to jealousy about Jordan. Oh, okay. What does that say? It's crushing 20-something puss and they have to go home for their daily haggard wives. Okay. That makes sense. Just jealousy. Yeah. That's just straight up jealousy.

37:59Okay. Good tip. I would like to see the sitting for the bust that Bill Belichick would have to do because you know that Jordan would be in the room. Oh, yeah. Giving advice to the sculptor. Oh, yeah. Make the nose a little smaller. Oh, yeah. Make his lips juicier. We got this next tip from Michael Lundin. Says that sources in the room tell him that the post-Brady years may have a big part on Bill not getting to the first ballot. They're saying maybe it was all Brady. Okay. Maybe it wasn't Bill. Yeah, I mean, yeah, the end of the career wasn't great, but there's a lot of guys in the Hall of Fame that didn't have great last seasons.

38:39Brady said there's no one he'd rather play for. If he needed to win a Super Bowl, it's Belichick. Well, that's not true. Do you want me to send you a statement? Well, he literally had the choice of who to play for, Bill Belichick. He said if he needed to win a Super Bowl one season, it's Belichick. Okay. So it is true. But he did say I'd rather play for a different person. we don't know what other factors were involved with that. Do you think Belichick's rooting for the Patriots in the Super Bowl? No way. Right? Definitely. Really? Patriot for life. No, but... Okay, you're smirking, so you don't think he is.

39:16I do. You actually do? Yeah. Okay. Former player. Yeah, but he... Former offensive coordinator. win this one then brady has one without belichick and craft has one without belichick belichick has two without them that's a defensive coordinator yeah i'm just saying would he be a system like deep down do you think he's rooting for him yeah okay i guess rabel that part have you thought about the scenario where robert craft gets into the hall of fame and belichick doesn't no i think that's what's gonna happen right that would be crazy wouldn't it it feels like that's gonna happen robert craft he's a classy guy he'll probably he'll probably do the Rudy.

39:56He'll say, I'm not going in without Bill. I'm not going. Yeah, he's got to. Has to. Has to. Be a snake move if you didn't. Zach, what do we got next? We got the next one from Jackson Reamers. Okay. This is the best reporting ever. He's saying that everyone assumed that Belichick was a law for his ballot. That the assumption mattered more than people thought. And there's a new group ballot system. So like with the new system, there's five finalists and only three voters. Our tip, this is quickly becoming send us tips when it's in reality, read the internet for us. And that's what people are doing.

40:34So I appreciate that. People are reading the internet for us and then telling us. We do discuss this with Mike Florio. Yes. I think this guy just copied and pasted a Florio article. Yeah. But I like that. Yeah. Because it is kind of a quicker way of being like, hey, read and decipher the internet for us. Send it to us. It's like spark notes. Yeah. This is what we've gathered. Here's some talking points. It also could just be. We've created our own AI system. Yeah, it could just be people looking up on chat GPT what's going on with this vote and then copying and pasting that into an email. Yep.

41:01And then the AI of Google on Gmail reading that to Zach. Yep. This next one's from Henry Fords. Okay. That spy game 2007 was not just about filming signals. The real footage of Belichick allegedly had was of Roger Goodell shape-shifting during a league meeting. And the NFL leaked a watered-down version to make him look petty. but the voters know the truth. So he's an alien. They're saying that Goodell may be semi-human species, other species. Okay, like reptilian. He's got the eyes that close from the side like Hillary Clinton. You remember those videos? Yep, yep. I like this. There's actually quite a few.

41:40Goodell is a lizard person. There's a lot of outer earth conspiracies in the emails. Yeah, I believe him. Okay. Enough that we should start thinking this might be true. Yeah, his eyes might blink the other way. Okay, okay. What else we got? We've got a... How many more we got? We only got three more, if that's okay. No, no, that's great. I can run through. Parker Erickson says his aunt is married to a guy who was cleaning the room after the meeting. Okay. He heard them talking about how Bill will not make the first ballot because of his connection to Russia. Okay, now we're talking. Yeah. Now we're talking.

42:13Yeah. Robert Kraft should be held to an even higher standard because he gave Putin a Super Bowl ring. Or Putin stole it from him. Yeah. We should also, we should have put a disclaimer at the start of this. Everyone, please credit us for any of these reports if they turn out to be true. If Goodell's a reptile, if Russia is involved, what, Max? These are all our anonymous sources that we would never actually reveal our sources. Right. Correct. But we want the credit. Yeah. And we're not starting off every single one. Shout out Parker. Yep. Okay. Quick one, Justin Peters says he's a voter and then just Goodell's in on it.

42:51Okay. That sounds like a good source. That's a perfect source. We got an actual voter email us? He's saying he's in the room. He's at the table. Okay. He's in the votes. So we're good. That basically gets to the bottom of it right there. Hey, do you believe that Goodell could be in on it? Yes, 100%. What is that? Justin Peters. Yeah. From my reporting of just looking at this, I think 80 % of these are still people trying to get us to come to their badge. party. There's so many bachelor party emails. We got to start a new email for the tips and tits. I kind of like sticking it with the bachelor party.

43:26It makes no sense. Okay. All right, Zach, last one. This last one was from Hayden Ostrog. Okay. The Hall of Fame changed the coaching eligibility rule from five years to one year. A lot of voters weren't happy about it, so they used Belichick as protest. Basically, we don't like this new rule, so Belichick is an example. He can wait. Okay. It's bigger than Belichick. Yeah. That's another one deciphering the internet for us. Appreciate that. There was 152 emails total, 28 % of which were breasts. Bring up one of the breasts. Just one breast? So we can fact check Zach. And we'll describe the breasts for the listeners.

44:01All right. That's just Jerry O 'Connell. Okay. That's Bill Pullian with Sidney Sweeney's body. Kind of hot. Okay. We're going to need some breasts here, Zach. What's going on? Zach just keeps saying anyone with an attachment is breasts. Oh, so these weren't great breasts. Okay. Oh, Christina Hendricks. Hebbies. Big time. Milkers. Oh, now we're looking at breasts and nipples. Now this is... We're looking at porn. Okay. Hard on my taste. Good job. Oh, that person sent their resume. If you're going to send a resume, you might as well send the breasts too. Oh, okay. These are good. These are good tips.

44:46Oh, a couple boobs. It was Hank and Bill Pulley. A couple boobs. Hank and Bill Pulley and hugging each other. Hank, has there been any discussion about a formal protest? I think Dave is talking about potentially building his own Hall of Fame in Florida with Jimmy Johnson. Yeah, at a strip club. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Oh, wow. Those are some good breasts. Memes is fist pumping. Double fist pumping. Good job, Zach. Zach, we'll clean this up and figure out how we're going to do this going forward. But I think an offseason every couple of weeks, Zach's rumor corner would be good. I got a question for memes.

45:25Memes, what's the status on hostile work environment? How have things been? It's been good. Still hostile, but. I feel like you haven't been here. Have you been a little sparse this week? What do you mean? Have you been showing up solely for work? Yes. And not any extracurricular? Nope. Just PMT and then I leave. Because there is a... Sometimes you need a personal day. We like to hang out. We like to shoot the shit with the boys. You're not into that. No, not this week. What about next week when we're spending every hour together? No, I'm mentally embracing for next week. Okay. I might just get into a fight.

46:03You should just drug yourself. just take just take nyquil every day during the day who are you afraid of fighting i don't know patriots fans coming up to me seahawks fans rubbing in my face that sam donald's their quarterback maybe you gotta go you gotta go incognito i'll fight a seahawks fan with you you gotta go incognito next week fake mustache yeah i gotta switch it up yeah yeah who do you think gets the worst ricochet ricochet shot jets fans if the seahawks win or titans fans if the Patriots win probably Titans fans yeah yeah do you mean that I feel like you would take the Sam Donald thing pretty hard no because like we sucked with him yeah it's not like he had 14 wins with another team also you got your own shit you're dealing with right now because Aaron Glenn doesn't seem like he's really got any plan no there's no plan yeah we didn't talk about it because the Jets are not looking for a new head coach but from everything I understand Aaron Glenn told everyone they're coming back and then three weeks later after a bunch of jobs have been filled was like haha just kidding i'm cleaning house yeah he did do that it did the the circus is back in town unfortunately if uh if the seahawks win does that become the sam darnold draft because right now it's the josh allen lamar jackson draft i think it might be i think it would have to become the sam darnold draft it might be yeah it might be right what are the odds it's crazy to think about Okay, let's get to our interview.

47:32We're going to talk some more ball with Mike Florio, and then we're going to finish up with Firefest of the week. Before we get to Mike Florio, he's brought to you by the UFC on Paramount+. It continues with UFC 325 live from Australia. You can catch featherweight champion Alexander Volkanovski in a rematch of his epic title fight against Diego Lopez. And the always dangerous Dan Hooker throws down with a dynamic finisher, Benoit Sandinis, in a high-action, lightweight showdown. UFC fans pay-per-view just got knocked out. Stream UFC 325 live on Saturday, January 31st, only on Paramount Plus, the new home of everything UFC.

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49:24Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite guests. Very, very, very special guest. Distinguished guest. It is Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk. You can see him all the time, everywhere. He's going to be on the Super Bowl broadcast. He's going to be part of the Super Bowl broadcast, so we're excited for that. And we wanted to have you on to talk a little coaching, hiring, some processes, some weird shit that's gone on, but also the Hall of Fame and maybe get to the bottom of this whole thing. So for people who maybe missed Wednesday's show or haven't been online, the Hall of Fame has basically shown their ass because they have elected Mike Florio into the West Virginia Academy of Distinguished Alumni, and he's being awarded tomorrow or today as you're listening to this.

50:08This is bullshit. This Hall of Fame is a joke. joke that's all the evidence you need that there's a problem with any and all voting processes to the extent that it would bubble up with my name for anything other than other than Florio of the year yeah memes my my new good friend memes uh yeah so what is this what you you actually are I was half joking but congratulations I think you did they make a special hall of fame just for you No, that would be nice. That would be nice. I mean, I guess we should all aspire to not win an award named after someone, but to be the person the award is named after.

50:46But no, no. West Virginia University has had since, I think, 1988 an Academy of Distinguished Alumni. And some of the people in there, I mean, it's like Sam Huff, Hot Rod Hundley, Jerry West, Don Knotts. What a party that would be. Throw me in the mix and let's go. Do they give you a jacket? Do you? You know what? I don't know if there's a jacket. Maybe it's like the, you know, the jacket that the Mountaineer wears. Or like a camo jacket. Coonskin cap. Yeah. I get the coonskin cap and the leather jacket with like the, you know, all the, and maybe a musket. Yeah. A muzzleloader. It's a muzzleloader, not a musket.

51:21But I feel like it's actually, listen. West Virginia Hall of Fame, you got to get like a camo jacket from Bass Pro Shops and a Mountain Dew. Yes. I'll see. I'll find out on Friday night. Okay. what the award is but it i mean it really is two things it really is a big deal and there's no way in hell that i should be getting it but like you go like okay fine i mean if you want to like if you want to demean the award by giving it to me i'll take it yeah what was the call like did somebody knock at your door was it like the old david baker no no god i mean if david baker shows up at your door shouldn't you run away whatever happened to david baker and why isn't there a david baker now i'll tell you this with david baker in charge this bill belichick thing doesn't happen he whips that room into shape that's a fact that's a fact so let's talk about it so congratulations that is awesome uh you are going into the hall of fame at west virginia uh which is very very cool i hope i expect you to thank us in your speech at some point um and you will right oh i will i absolutely will okay all right great so let's talk about the the canton let's Let's talk about the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Belichick being snubbed as a first ballot Hall of Famer, which is utterly ridiculous.

52:37Can you tell us first, what the hell is the process? I've been trying to read about this whole voting thing in that some of these people might not have voted against Belichick. They just voted for the old guys, but maybe also in a weird way, that's them saying, hey, it's not my fault. I was just doing the right thing for the old guys, but really they're voting against Belichick. Yeah, it's just funny. This reminds me of the time that you called and asked me to explain something to you like you were in first grade. And then I did. And you busted my balls for doing it. Yeah. I will. I won't. How about I explain this to you like you're in fifth grade?

53:16OK. OK. I like that. Now, it's look, here's the problem. They used to have a process where when you got to the finalists, however many there were, five, eight, nine, whatever, However many finalists there were, there would be a vote, yes or no, for each one, up or down, in or out. And if that person got 80 % of the vote, they were in. But it's isolation. One person, does this person belong in the Hall of Fame? That's how it used to be. For some reason, they've changed that in recent years. Now, maybe this is just their way of trying to make it harder to get in. Maybe they've heard the criticisms of people like Deion Sanders, who says too many people get in.

53:59I personally don't think it's fair to all of a sudden raise the bar because you got a lot of people in there under the old procedure. So they have a new procedure. And here's how it works. And I'm going to focus on it as it relates to the candidates who aren't from the class and group of modern era players. That's a separate universe altogether. other. When you get to Belichick, he's in a bucket with, because he's the coach's nominee. He's in a bucket with the contributor nominee, Robert Kraft, and the three senior committee nominees, the players who never got in when they were in the modern era category for whatever it was, 15, 20, 25 years.

54:41So it came down to Belichick, Kraft, Ken Anderson, former Bengals quarterback, L.C. Greenwood, former Steelers defensive end, Roger Craig, primarily a member of the 49ers who were great in the 1980s. So you got five. And they're all basically in competition with each other because you don't have a vote on each of the five. Each voter picks three of the five. Okay. So what happened here is when it was time for the 50 voters to put down the names, not enough of them included Bill Belichick among the three of the five. And I think if we look at those five names and we pick the three Hall of Famers, how is Belichick not the first one?

55:28Right. Right. So what I understand is that I saw there was a Kansas City Chiefs reporter who wrote a long article being like, here's my explanation. I didn't vote for Bill Belichick. And he essentially said that the three old timers were going to get basically they were going to disappear in the coming years because there was going to be new guys coming in. And so he did the calculation of I'm not going to vote for Belichick this time because I know he'll get in next time. I need to vote for these guys because it might be their last shot. That still feels a little hollow of like maybe I'm doing this because I'm not voting for Bill Belichick.

56:03and he also said if it was a straight up or down vote on bill belichick he would have said yes this process they've created allowed people to bypass for whatever reason if it's i want to give ken anderson lc greenwood and roger craig their opportunity okay fine but it's to the detriment of bill belichick or if it's just i don't like bill belichick i just i'll pick three others instead the whole thing is a mess they should have forced the voters to say yes or no on bill Belichick and they need to go back to what's the easiest fix here. Go back to the system where the finalists each have an 80 % up or down yes or no vote like it used to be.

56:45It's fundamentally unfair to all. And it's going to create a ridiculous log jam. It's going to reduce the size of the class. You're going to have fewer parties in Canton. You're going to have a smaller parade. You're going to have fewer people show up. Like why would the hall of fame even want to make the classes smaller. If anything, they want to make them bigger. That's been one of the problems. So they've overreacted and they've made the bar too high. And I think the proper reaction now is to go back to the way it used to be. Be interested to see if that writer from Kansas City, if he has voted against other deserving players or contributors in the past, just so that he can get the old guys in, or if this is just like a Belichick problem that he's got, because I think that would tell us a lot of whether or not he truly believes those convictions that he wrote out or if he's just holding against the patriots which is also a possibility he said in his piece he said that he when he first became a hall of fame voter he made the mistake of not voting for the old guys and having them disappear and he's kind of course corrected here this year yeah this year he's he's discovered yeah and eric or i mean pft government government names eric's brother michael sorry um i i think that i think that they've only been doing the current procedure for a couple of years.

57:55And last year when they did that, that five person bucket Sterling Sharp was the only one that made it out. So maybe the guy did the same thing last year. I don't know. But, you know, it used to be if you emerge from the committee process, because for the coaches, the contributors and the seniors, there's a separate committee that identifies the candidates who are going to be teed up for the full membership to vote on. And there was a time where it's a no-brainer. Like, if these folks who are specifically focusing on who are the best of the best from these categories, they take the time to serve them up as the ones who should get in, okay, fine.

58:32At least four out of five of us are going to put them in. But now it's been hopelessly complicated and it's kept out Belichick. It could keep out Kraft. It could keep out all of them. I haven't done the math and I'm not going to. But the current procedure, I mean, it could, in theory, prevent any of them getting to 80%. What about Bill Pullian? Do we believe him? Because he is now in very Bill Pullian fashion. He went, so the report came out that he essentially said that he has to, you know, Bill Belichick should wait a year. Then he came out, Bill Pullian said, I 100 % voted for Bill Belichick.

59:06Then he said, I'm 95 % sure I voted for Bill Belichick. Then he came out and did like a radio hit where he had a pre-written speech that he gave that he read off a piece of paper. where what's going on with bill polian well and he said that the hall of fame's auditors told him that he did indeed vote for bill belichick and his comment that he doesn't remember with 100 certainty whether he voted for bill belichick was one of the most shocking developments in this entire thing because how could you not remember failing to vote for because that's what you would be remembering not voting for him you'd remember if you didn't vote for one of the greatest coaches of all time.

59:46But I thought the most interesting wrinkle came from his comments to ESPN.com that he was aware that some of the other voters were kicking around the idea of making Belichick wait a year because of Spygate and that he neither agreed nor disagreed with them. There's a lot of work that can be done within those confines. Oh, you guys are making a pretty good point. I don't agree or disagree with you, but you know, if you got to vote your convictions, whatever you think. And the ultimate conspiracy theory here would be, he knew that at least 11 were not going to vote for Belichick. So he could go ahead and vote for Belichick and cover his ass.

1:00:27Now I'm not saying it's true, but that would be impressive. I would give him another bust in the hall of fame if he intended to pull that off and made it happen that way. Yeah. His fingerprints aren't on it. He made a couple of phone calls, rallied the troops. And then he said, okay, my work here is done. I've whipped the votes. So now I can, I can get away scot-free if I have to. There was another, another statement that was, uh, I think it came out yesterday, uh, last evening from the hall of fame saying that they are looking into, and I guess reminding members of the selection committee that if they violate the bylaws, they can have their, their votes taken away in the future.

1:01:01It seems to me like either one, the hall of fame is trying to say like the big crime here is that the news leaked. That's number one. And then also something about Belichick violating his NDA for disclosing the results of the vote that he was told that he would not be moving on. Is the Hall of Fame, are they actually saying like, hey, Belichick might be punished because he violated the NDA? Well, when I heard that the candidates are required to sign an NDA so they don't disclose whether they got in or whether they didn't. Because the reality is, even though we're not going to find out until next Thursday who got in at the NFL honors ceremony, the people already know, the candidates know that they got in, they know that they didn't get in.

1:01:48Belichick knew he didn't get in. And if you read the story at ESPN.com, it's obvious Belichick disclosed to someone because he said in the presence of other people, what do you have to do to get in? He's not supposed to say anything. And when someone told me that they signed an NDA, I said, what are they going to do? Sue him? Yeah. I hate NDAs generally because I hate anything that tends to try to scare someone into not talking because that's all an NDA is. They're just trying to scare you into not talking. But the leak itself, it didn't come from any of the voters because the voters don't know who got in.

1:02:21All they know is who they voted for. They don't tell the voters ahead of time. They find out when everyone else finds out, unless one of the candidates tells the voters. You know, if I'm the person who presented the guy who got in, then that person may call me and thank me. It's like, why are you thanking me? I got in. Oh, now I know. But I think the concern as it relates to that statement, because that was a stupid thing for the Hall of Fame to do. Yeah. If you've got a concern about the voters complying with the bylaws, send them an email. Don't send. You put out a statement and people are like, what does this even mean?

1:02:50Some people thought that it meant they were going to take away voting privileges for people who didn't vote for Bill Belichick. And maybe they should, but here's what I think they were talking about, because I got the bylaws. I think the one thing that they objected to, there's a rule, there's a statement in there that says that the voters aren't allowed to disclose publicly the confidential discussions that happen in the room before the voting. when the person is presented and comments are made. And the guy who presented Bill Belichick, Armando Salguero, he was on Dan Patrick's show on Wednesday, and he talked about what was said in the room.

1:03:28And that probably set a red flag up at the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and they want to make sure people understand. I see nothing in the bylaws that prevents people from saying who they voted for or didn't vote for. You're not allowed to talk about, for whatever reason, I think it's stupid, but you're not allowed to talk about what went on in the room. Which is crazy because I made the point on Wednesday's show, like the NFL televises everything. We've made a night out of the schedule release that we already know. Let's televise this thing. Let's make the writers and the voters stand behind their words.

1:04:01Why not? Transparency is critical. when you don't have it when you have secrecy extreme secrecy that will prompt the hall of fame to send out a finger wagging huff and puff statement warning the voters to keep their mouths shut it makes people think something fishy is going on and then when you get a weird result that justifies thinking something fishy is going on someone's out to get bill belichick there was some cabal of voters and robert craft pulling everyone's strings to try to keep belichick out and get himself in. Like there's all sorts of crazy theories that are spawned by the fact that they insist on keeping this secret.

1:04:39And I think they need to take a step back and they need to ask, why the hell are we treating this thing like the papal conclave? Yeah. We'll get back to Florio in a second. He's brought to you by DraftKings Sportsbook, the number one sportsbook for live betting. They're making every snap, every drive, every moment of Super Bowl 60 count with DraftKings Live Millions, featuring over$5 million in prizes just for betting live. Here's how simple it is. Head to DraftKings Sportsbook, opt in, and receive a promo token. You place a live bet of$1 or more on the Super Bowl, and you're automatically entered.

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1:06:23It's, you know, the whole saying, don't shoot the messenger, shoot the, you know, shoot the message. I like to shoot the messenger, and you unfortunately are the messenger in this. You are floating out the idea that the NFL is going to get to a place where conference championships are at a neutral site in a dome. I hate it so, so much, and fuck you for saying it. Thank you. Thank you. And let's be clear on this, because I understand that in this day and age, people are going to put whatever interpretation they want on the message. I mean, you can shoot the messenger, just make sure you're interpreting the message properly.

1:07:04And I'll tell you the whole story. Here's what happened. Because, you know, more people watch the conference championship games than will watch a Monday night game in October between the Buccaneers and the Falcons. So I was getting texts from guys I've known since I was six, seven, eight years old. And we're talking about the games. And one of my buddies said that his mom, who's in her 80s, once the snow started and the offenses weren't able to do anything and the game just completely bogged down and we couldn't see the lines on the field, she said, these games should be played indoors at a neutral site.

1:07:39And when he texted that, it reminded me that three years ago, remember when the DeMar Hamlin cardiac arrest screwed up the season and there was that one fewer game between the Bengals and the Bills because they never finished it. They came up with this weird formula as to how the playoffs would unfold. And if the Bills and the Chiefs met in the AFC Championship, the game was going to be played in Atlanta and they sold 50 ,000 tickets in 24 hours to this neutral site game that never happened because the Bengals beat the Bills. At that time, that's when I became aware that there are people in the league office that do want to play the conference championship games at a neutral site.

1:08:17Lamar Hunt, the late Chiefs owner, the chief's founder. He used to bring it up all the time. It never got any traction, but what happened on Sunday caused me to remember that. And I just put out there, I just, here's the question. Do we want to have the two teams able to play to the best of their abilities under ideally pristine conditions like we do in the Superbowl? Or are we fine with whatever crazy weather pattern may pop up during a game and make it harder for the two teams to be at their best yes that it's just that's the question i don't care how it's resolved but that's the question i don't like the idea of doing a neutral site i i think if you get the higher seeds should be rewarded for playing better in the regular season part of the snow and the elements and the wind and the cities that the teams are based in is a it's a good addition you have to account for that good coaches will figure out ways mike if russia had built a dome they'd all be speaking german right now okay and it needs to mean something we've got to add in some of the chaos is good we don't need a sanitized version of of sports we don't need a sanitized 72 degree zero mile per hour wind version of these games football is an outdoor sport fundamentally it should be played in the winter time it should be played in the elements i don't think that having every game in the snow would be a good idea but you get a couple magical snow games a year i think that's great for the sports think about think about nfl films nfl films the the snow game replays that they have from games that were played in the 80s 90s 2000s they're iconic it's good for marketing the sport too so i i disagree with your idea and your friend's mom's idea no it's your idea no it's your idea it's your idea my idea hey let me let me let me respond the super bowl i mean would you support having home field advantage for a super bowl No, it's the Super Bowl.

1:10:13No, it's the Super Bowl, dude. What are you, a dummy? Okay. I just think that – This is what Mike doesn't take into account. He can bring up a great logical point and we'll just be like, no. Yeah, we're just going to argue with you like we're fifth graders. Yeah. I think the only reason to consider it is the stakes of the – and I'm not saying it should happen. I'm just saying to the extent that you were watching the game on Sunday, whether you're a Broncos fan, Patriots fan, neutral observer, and it just got frustrating. It was a frustrating viewing experience. They put up those giant numbers that made it look like they were playing on an electric football field.

1:10:47Unfortunately, they got rid of that. We couldn't tell what was going on, and I feel like we didn't get the best of both teams. What about the first half? The first half sucked offensively. Outside of a Jarrett Stidham big pass, there was no offense. The Patriots scored after Jarrett Stidham threw the ball backwards. like it wasn't like it was we were lighting it up and I'm a big believer too if you put everything in a dome then there is no there's only one way you build a football team and that's like the fastest players and that's it when you have to deal with the weather you have to build your football team to do everything you have to build your football team to run the ball to stop the run situational football punting all these things come into play otherwise we're just playing flag football you know and the other reality is sports business journal had an item about this a couple of weeks ago you've got more and more of these teams that are ditching the elements for domes remember that great james winston snow globe game against the steelers the thursday night the browns are building a dome yeah the bears want your bears i know i don't like it i don't like it the bronco and broncos owner greg penner said yesterday they're building a stadium with a retractable roof and if they had a retractable roof it would have been closed on sunday i love that yeah yeah hey lincoln's designed a new limousine and uh it would have been closed for the parade in dallas it's seven oh jesus 17 17 teams are going to be playing in dumbs within the next 10 years the way things are currently going the chiefs are moving into a dome i know it stinks you were at the game you were at the the the rams bears game i was there or were you at the Packers one which one were you at the I was at the Rams Bears yeah that like yes it was cold the weather was an element like a factor but it it adds a different like the Rams are an incredible offense when they play indoors they can light everyone up now you got to deal with this and guess what the Rams figured out in the second half they had to run the ball and they figured it out and it's like a survival of the fittest element that should come into play with football i don't disagree with any of that well stop spreading the message dude but but it's just a conversation man it's something to talk about until they screw bill belichick out of getting into the hall of fame and then we got something else to talk about i mean sometimes you know right after the regular season ends the fruit just falls right out of the trees and the struggle to get it off the ground before it rots then you get to this dead week before super bowl week you need something to talk about so i've had to shake the tree a little bit to come up with something to talk about but i really you know the synapses connected after my friend's mother made that point it's like yeah that was only three years ago there were forces in the league office that were trying to make this happen it's never going to happen that that's the the rest of the story the owners are never going to do it because i don't think any owner wants to give up that one in 16 chance right hosting the game and keeping all the money right that flows from hosting the game right so there's there's a couple people that work for the nfl that are like this would be cool if we could do this and then in reality nothing's going to get any traction whatsoever well no you forgot one piece of that very important and a friend's mom it's a bunch of people in the nfl are like this would be cool if we do this let's text florio he'll float it out for us yeah there but that didn't happen this time that happened three years ago a high level executive at the nfl shared with me the story three years ago of lamar hunt annually pushing for it and not going anywhere.

1:14:15And the idea came to the fore because we were one game away from having it happen. And here's how the NFL often does things. You get forced into a situation by accident or by circumstance. And, you know, what if they had played that game? Let me ask you this. What if they do Bill's Chiefs in Atlanta and it looks and feels like a college bowl game, a big time college bowl game with half the stadium in bills, Kellers half the stadium in chiefs, Kellers, the reaction shots of the sad fans after the big plays that go against their team. Like that was part of it too. They thought that this would feel like a big, cause the super bowl is too sanitized.

1:14:59It's too corporate. You don't yet. Now I know there's plenty of fans there for both teams and it can get loud, but it doesn't have the same feel as one of those big time college bowl games. And I think they were, intrigued by the possibility of that happening. And if the Bengals don't beat the Bills 27-10 in a snowstorm in Buffalo, we would have at least gotten to see what it would have looked like and felt like. And that will probably never happen again because it was a crazy set of circumstances that even had us within one game of it unfolding the way it could have. I think it would have looked like and felt like the Super Bowl.

1:15:32And there's only one Super Bowl. I don't think it would have been good. I know what you're saying. Yeah, if it's played at the Rose Bowl and you've got the crowd divided and people make the trip out there. I think there should be more home games. In the playoffs, it should mean something if you get the higher seed. And I love the weather. That's my final piece. And you are – Mike Florio, mouthpiece for the league office. Who would have thought? Yeah, yeah, who would have thought? Addicted to Dome. Yeah. But look, 20 minutes of content, you're welcome. Yeah, great point. Yeah, good point. Great point, Mike.

1:16:03Mike, all right, next topic. Is this the most Browns hire ever in the way that they bungled this thing and essentially, from all I understand, you can tell me I'm wrong, they spent two weeks interviewing up-and-coming offensive guys and saying, hey, if you come, Jim Schwartz is part of this, and that's what you have to deal with. Then everyone said, no, I don't want to do this because you're basically saying there's an interim head coach waiting to take my job if I screw up. Then they get Todd Munkin, and Jim Schwartz is like, I don't agree to this, I'm out. So they basically screwed it up every which way, if I'm correct.

1:16:38Yeah, somebody told me last week when it first became a thing on the grapevine that Jim Schwartz was a favorite to get the job, that the Browns have to choose between promoting him or losing him. And I think even the Browns, even the highly dysfunctional Browns, and they kindly ask that you not call them dysfunctional and only a dysfunctional organization would actually say out loud, don't call us dysfunctional. They had to choose between those two things. And they must have thought, hey, if we hire somebody else, maybe we can get Schwartz to stay. How did they not know that Schwartz was going to want out if he didn't get the job?

1:17:16And if I'm the new coach, if I'm Todd Munkin, and I'm going in there with this defensive coordinator who put together a defense that led the league in 2023 in total yards allowed per game, was only one yard per game behind the Texans this year for the lead. That gets overlooked. Schwartz has done a great job. Do I want to be, as a first-time head coach at the age of 60, do I want Jim Schwartz to be in the locker room and have a natural divide among the defense and the offense? You're going to have certain players aligned with him, certain players aligned with me. I'm trying to take over the team.

1:17:50So I just think the Browns mishandled this everywhere. And I think at the end of the day, when you had the three final candidates, I think Todd Monken ended up being the compromise between Nate Shellhase and Jim Schwartz. I think Haslam wanted Schwartz. This is my hypothesis. It hasn't even bubbled up to a theory yet. I think Haslam wanted Schwartz. Berry wanted Shellhase. I figured out how to spell it. I'm still not sure how to pronounce it. And the compromise candidate was Todd Munkin. Okay. Yeah. I haven't heard anybody that's super excited about it. I guess Ravens fans. Ravens fans are pumped.

1:18:22Well, I mean, there's no Lamar Jackson. Like, Todd Munkin did okay. It wasn't spectacular. This past year was a disappointment. It was enough to get the head coach fired. And Todd Munkin's, you know, he's been around. He was a head coach at Southern Miss for three years. So it isn't like he's got no head coaching experience. But what are you going to do in Cleveland? Deshaun Watson? Shadour Sanders, Dylan Gabriel, who's going to be your quarterback? That's the problem. And I think the Browns. Yeah, two out of three of those guys are Pro Bowlers. Pro Bowler quarterbacks. And if there's any logic to this, I think the Browns decided our offense needs more work than our defense, and our defense is more about players than scheme.

1:19:03And if Schwartz leaves, we'll find another coordinator who will do a good job because of the players we have. we need someone to improve this offense and that's why they skewed away from Jim Schwartz but yeah who knows with the Browns who knows I I'm fairly confident they'll be looking for another coach within two or three years yeah and then what about the the bills because the bills are is a little bit of a weird one too where they get in front of the media and Terry Pagula says hey the message had had kind of run dry here we needed to change we need to do some a different direction and I think Joe Brady is going to be a good head coach so there's no shot at Joe Brady but then they they say, oh, we're going to pick a guy who's been in the building for the last four years.

1:19:44It really is strange when you think about what Terry Pagoulos said. Initially at that press conference from last Wednesday, he said he had no inkling that he was going to fire Sean McDermott until he walked into the locker room after the overtime loss in Denver. And then he later said, we've hit the proverbial playoff wall. And I think that's the real reason. After seven straight years in the postseason, not getting to the Super Bowl, he decided it was time for a new voice. But Joe Brady's been part of the coaching staff that's been unable to break through the proverbial playoff wall for the last four years.

1:20:18And the end result, think about this, you lose in the division round. The head coach gets fired. The offensive coordinator gets promoted. The GM gets promoted. It's just a weird thing. And it may be, and it's not like they're going to come out and say it. You know, it could just be that they'd gotten to the point where it wasn't working the way it needed to between Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean. And that happens from time to time. Now, some owners will say, I'm getting rid of everybody. Other owners will say, I'm going to keep one. I'm going to get rid of the other. And it's been clear from everything the Bills have said in the aftermath of the McDermott firing that they believe the team is talented enough and they believe the problem has been coaching.

1:20:59And it's going to be interesting to see what kind of moves they make this offseason to make the team better because if they do too much what are we going to say oh the talent must not have been there look they did this they did this they did this they're trying to help joe brady i thought the team was good enough so it adds an i think a compelling storyline to the free agency process the draft and any other moves that the bills may make before the trade deadline yeah i agree in uh in new york you've got john harbaugh going up there i don't know what the relation relationship is going to be like between him and the rest of the front office but i assume it sounds like they're both in parallel reporting to ownership.

1:21:35Am I way off on that? No, you're absolutely right. What happened was when Harbaugh became available, he had more leverage than any coach has had in years. When you have teams that haven't fired their current head coaches, calling Harbaugh's agent and expressing interest in Harbaugh, you're in a position to dictate terms. And so it was a late Wednesday night when word broke that Harbaugh and the Giants were were working on a contract, and it took two and a half, three days to get it done because Harbaugh was flexing his leverage. And for 50 years, the Giants have had a structure where it's owner, then GM, then coach, and the coach works for the GM.

1:22:19Harbaugh, he wanted separate tracks. He reports to ownership. GM Joe Shane reports to ownership. And then we instantly saw other changes made. Long-time employee like Kevin Abrams, who's been there 27 years, he's just gone. Ronnie Barnes, I'm not sure what they ultimately did. He's been with that team forever as the head trainer, but they're hiring a new head trainer. And Ronnie Barnes is still there, but Harbaugh wants to bring in the people that he knows will get things done his way. And the Giants, to their credit, they understand they need to do significant things in order to become a consistent contender.

1:22:57So they are all in with John Harbaugh. And I don't think that's the guy Joe Shane would have hired because you put someone in that situation where they say to the GM, you go hire the coach. You're going to look for somebody that isn't going to threaten your turf or maybe your job because look, what if they make it to the playoffs this year, but they can't win in the postseason? John Harbaugh just has to pick up the phone and say to one of the mayors, you know, we just need a little more here and there. And And, you know, maybe we need a better general manager. I mean, it creates potential drama moving forward when you've got the coach and the GM completely separate, both reporting up to ownership.

1:23:32Yeah. I was going to say, staying in the NFC East, the Philadelphia Eagles have struggled to find an offensive coordinator. There's a lot of reports out there that some guys just don't want to, they don't want coaching. Well, I was going to say, Max isn't here yet, so you can speak freely. So he's not going to get upset with whatever you say. I am here. I like Max. Is this a Philly problem? Do coaches just not want to work in Philly? Well, and hello, Max. And I like Max. Max is cool. I think Max and I have found a common ground. Is that something you want? Like, if I put that on a quote card, Max is cool, Mike Florio.

1:24:09That kind of hurts. No, that's an honor. That's my paisan right there. Max is cool. So here's my take. Right. And it's all rooted in the report from Derek Gunn that came up during football season. And Gunn has been reporting on the Eagles for a very long time. When he said that there's a certain amount of frustration within the coaching staff and within the locker room because they design the offense, they design the plays, they call the plays. And then when it's time to go out there, Jalen Hurts, the quarterback, plays his game. And he went a step farther and said, Hertz understands he can do it because based on the structure of his contract, there isn't a damn thing they can do.

1:24:52They use these option bonuses and votable years and it smooths out the cap number as long as you keep the guy. If you trade him, it's a disaster. So he's got a ton of power over the franchise right now. And if you're going to be the offensive coordinator, I think there's there's three ways you could play this one you design an offense to do exactly what jalen hurts wants to do two you bring in your system and you hope you can talk him into buying in or three and this is an organizational issue you tell jalen hurts hey the offense is what it is you draft a guy in round two or three and you get that guy ready to play quarterback if jalen hurts refuses to go along, but it's not an attractive destination for people with options.

1:25:38I think you always want to be able to hire the guys who have choices. Whoever the Eagles hire to be the offensive coordinator is not going to be a guy who has other choices. It's going to be a guy who says, all right, I want to be an offensive coordinator, and this is the place where they want me, and I'll go deal with all of the potential issues that come from this situation. Even though we don't know the full extent of it it's clearly not great and they'd already have an offensive coordinator if it was yeah it's got to be bad because they won a super bowl they've got dynamic players on offense they've got one of the best offensive lines in football too for for offensive coordinators to not want that job does tell me they're so like when you were saying that that hurts is not running the offense that they're practicing like what does that look like i just think once they're in the games, he, you know, he holds the ball too long.

1:26:29Every once in a while, you'll see a play unfold where he throws it very quickly on time and it works. And, you know, there's a lot of padding of the ball, not throwing to guys who are open, not going the way that maybe the coverage would dictate. There've been plays this year where AJ Brown's wide open and the ball doesn't go to him. And, you know, based upon what the play is and the way the play unfolds, it's a no-brainer that that's where the ball should have gone. But I'd view it, if I'm an offensive coordinator who wants to be a head coach, because they've had four coordinators the last four years.

1:27:03Two of them became head coaches after one year with Jalen Hurts. My approach would be very simple. I'd say, I'm going to do exactly what Jalen Hurts wants. I'm not going to get into a tug-of-war with him. I'm not going to try to fit a square peg into a round hole. Jalen, tell me what you want to do. We're going to design the offense to do what you want to do. We're going to stay away from the things you don't want to do. We're going to let you play your game. Because if you make it work, you're going to be a head coach in a year. So that's why I think it's attractive. That's why I don't understand this.

1:27:31If you're confident in your skills as an offensive coordinator, I think you take that job and you redesign, you know, because they all have their system. This is my system. Oh, it's my system. Screw the system. I'm going to design a new system to get the most out of Jalen Hurts. Yeah. Okay, Mike, I got one last question for you. It's always great having you on. Roback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com, promo code TAKE. Do you have a pick for the Super Bowl? Can you give us one? Not yet. Come on. I haven't even thought about it.

1:28:03I haven't even thought about it. It's still 10 days away. You're a liar. You just lied to us. No, I have not thought about it. You haven't thought about who's going to win the Super Bowl. I have not thought about who I think is going to win. Man card. Take his man card. Yeah, that's crazy. Have you thought about like, hey, if you took out the good teams from the Seahawks schedule, they actually haven't played anyone? Well, you say the same thing about the Patriots, right? Well, no, you could just say the Patriots haven't played anyone. But with the Seahawks, you could say if you take out like their games against the Rams, the Niners and a few others that they've played.

1:28:33Yeah, they actually kind of stink. I know a lot of people are going to think the Seahawks will win the game. I'm extremely impressed with Mike Vrabel. And there are specific moments from the AFC championship that bear that out. When Sean Payton chose to go for it on fourth and short, the way he explained it. Now, look, I think we all believe he should have taken the points and gone up two scores. But if you have a play that you really think is going to work, then OK, let's go get the first down and try to go up 14. The way he explained it to Seth Wickersham of ESPN.com, they thought they were getting a defense that they didn't get which means mike drabel knew mike drabel saw what was coming and they disguised what they were going to do and they called a defense in that moment that stymied the denver broncos and when you look at and this is a point that sims caught in real time the interception at the end of the game the christian gonzalez when they just keep the ball down the field and that was that if you go back and watch that the Broncos were substituting and the Patriots exercised their prerogative to lollygag their players off.

1:29:42Okay. You can see a couple of linemen just kind of taking their time to get off and the umpire standing over the ball by rule that's required. Meanwhile, the play clock is running. You got a young quarterback in the biggest moment of his life and the play clock's running down and the urgency. And it's just, you know, all those factors. And what does he do? He rushes the throw and it gets picked off little things like that there's a genius to the way that Vrabel coaches and I think that could make a difference in this one if they don't get blown off the field by a talent differential I think Vrabel is going to be in position to make the right move at the right time and it's not going to look like a big deal but when we go back and look at it afterwards it's going to be like that's where they won the game that's a really good point and I have not heard anyone make that point so I appreciate that I think of Vrabel kind of the same way that I think of Dan Campbell.

1:30:33It's like two guys that get labeled as meatheads, but they're secretly very, very smart. Like Mike Vrabel will be like, oh, cut my dick off for a Super Bowl, and then everyone's like, oh yeah, there goes meathead Mike. He's a very smart coach. He stole time from Bill Belichick. We're going to play this clip for Hank, so he can, because he's nervous about the game, and him hearing that would be... The substitution. Yeah, the substitutions. No, Hank actually said all this, and we made fun of him for it. Oh, all right. No, no, but you said it well. I wonder why you smiled after you said it. But I wonder who that was.

1:31:02The Christian Gonzalez one, I didn't know that. Hank said the substitutions, which we laughed at inappropriately because then you, John Gruden, Greg Olson all backed that up. I didn't know it was that specific play. That makes sense. I mean, Mike Vrabel's a really, really good coach. Hey, think about this. Let me give you another example. Will Lutz, the kicker for the Broncos, he admitted the day after. And if you watch the film, you can see it. The ball was about six and a half yards back on the snap. Is that a penalty? Right? It should have been eight yards. So that makes it easier to block the thing.

1:31:32You think Mike Vrabel would have let that happen? No. Do you think there's any scenario where Mike Vrabel is not going to stay, you make damn sure, you walk it off, here's the tape measure, whatever it takes, you make sure you're eight yards back? Because what a shock. They can't see the markers on the field. Of course you're going to catch that if you're a coach. Now, the Broncos didn't apparently. But there's no way – because I love Vrabel's style. He looks like a guy who's supervising the crew of a moving van. He's so involved and he's moving around and he's still kind of like a player. It's the perfect blend of guy who has been in the middle of it and now he's a guy on the periphery and he understands the emotion, he understands what the players are thinking, and he understands all the little nuances, all the little rules.

1:32:21And I think he's able to outsmart arguably any coach in the league right now. That's the biggest thing the Patriots have going for them in the Super Bowl. Hank, is this a situation the old onion headline, worst person you know makes great point? No, I love Florio. I love Florio. He's always made great salient points, and this is just another example of that. He's a max guy. I don't know if you knew that. You got Hank memes. You've mended fences with the entire booth, Mike. I don't think memes was receptive to my overtures in Chicago. No, no. No, it's a hustle work environment. I don't think he appreciated that I hugged him.

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1:35:13Grab a refreshing Twisted Tea today. Okay, let's wrap up. We got Fyre Fest of the week. Henry, we have Oldie here as well. He's got a Fyre Fest for us. Gotta go. Gotta go. Busy, busy. Henry. You just can't have a Fyre Fest in a week like this. We're a week away from the Super Bowl. We're going to San Francisco. Yeah. Playing golf with one of my best friends. Potentially going to win$80 ,000. Life is good. Life's really good. That's it. Life is good. No Fyre Fest. No injuries. I was very worried about that this week. made it out unscathed, no Fyre Fest. No Fyre Fest. There will be no Fyre Fest this week.

1:35:53No. I mean, the internet hates me. Everyone says I'm dumb and is rooting for my demise, but that's all right. But you love that. You love being in that position. Yeah, I can't affect those people's emotions. Like, you thrive in this setting. I can just do what I do. Yeah. And that's continue to be dumb. Yeah. You want them to hate you. That's a super healthy way. I don't want them to hate me, but it doesn't bother me that they do. right like i don't think anyone wants to be hated but like i'm just gonna keep being myself which is very hateable yeah you can't control what other people think about you no great way to look at it the i mentioned the our friends at uh wdb and randy he he actually mentioned it when i was on the show today he's like i i hate hank he's like something about him that smirk just everything about him i just hate him yeah the only person i care about is memes he hates me he'll never like me but that's all right yeah that's that's a situation i feel bad like uh but i don't like that you put it that way but he's right yeah well he said that he likes me and then i hate him so that we're at a crossroad yeah is that spot the lie you're right that and that makes him hate you more yeah i want you i want you to hate back but the fact that you're not is making it worse yeah it's making yes the hate is going up you've been in this you love it you said it in the cave on sunday you're like i love how much i i feed off of the people who are just so mad at me it just yeah you play the heel well it makes me well it's just like you can just tell that people just like it's it's misguided feelings yeah it's yeah it's people have people have other issues going on if they're if they're getting as mad as they are at me it's yeah it's really directed i'm a nice innocent guy i like hank i i fucking hate hank too at the same time like i like you i really do you're you're a good friend and but i fucking hate your guts and i want the worst things to happen to you but i love you it's actually not sunday though patriots what do you mean we're aligned yeah but i mean as i've said i would gladly pay four thousand forty thousand dollars to have the patriots lose the super bowl i i think it's i don't think that's true it's that's worth it worth it 100 % worth it it's I don't think that I think you're gonna be rooting for the Patriots I will not because I that's that's how much I do not want the Patriots to win if that's the cost of doing business if that's a sacrifice I have to make I will I will take that upon myself as everybody that doesn't like the New England Patriots I will gladly write a check for$40 ,000 if they lose the Super Bowl also I've had some schemey like AWLs who are like hey you know you can like hedge and bet the Seahawks.

1:38:30I'm not doing that. No, you can't. There's a 0.0 % chance. Yes, I could make guaranteed money. No, I do not care about that. No, I will be not. Just say Jersey Jerry texted you. That's something he would definitely do. Cullen Glaspie. Yeah, he definitely would do that. The opposite of love is not hate. It's apathy, Hank. And I think that you are because I love and hate you. That's a great place to be. I just love you guys. Yeah, I have. I've got nothing but love in this heart. That's true. That's very true. You are. That's what we always say about you. You're exactly right. Okay. Big teddy bear.

1:39:04PFT? Well, Hank and I have had like a tumultuous relationship this week because Hank thinks that everyone's out to get him. So when he's like, I'm feeling good, I don't necessarily think that's true. We've been talking about this round of golf that we're going to play, and Hank is very much nervous about playing golf against me on Saturday. It's not even against me. False. We're going to be playing together. So excited. Max, fact or fiction, Hank lashed out at you yesterday. Lashed out at me? Yeah. For what? The golf stuff. Sounds like fiction. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, yes. Because I kept saying that it was going to be a competition against the two of them, and Hank keeps saying no, but I am making it yes.

1:39:48Yes, yes. I would also like to make it yes. Yes. I mean, he was like, no, we'll just work together and try and get a certain score. and I was like... I didn't say that. I said, I'm worried about me. We're going to be playing cooperative golf. Hank left-handed. We're doing a video. Yeah, like video. We had the best vibes ever at Spyglass. That's a banger title. Nope. Two best friends play a round of golf they'll never forget because they're enjoying each other's company. Banger. Banger video. Nope. Banger. Banger video. But my real fire fest is that we did have the three-on-three basketball tournament this week won't spoil anything but i did hurt my calf in warm-ups before the first game started and i just feel old and i feel like it's it's it keeps happening with my calf and i'm just deathly afraid that the next one's the big one so i was i was attempting to dunk i was doing some dunking practice and jumping off it it popped again and this time it's lower in the calf and i feel like i can say it now my fire fest i don't think i'm gonna dunk again i think i'm gonna have to learn how to play below the rim.

1:40:55So I'm calling it quits on attempting to dunk anymore in my future. But yeah, I'm going to be on a scooter, I think, for most, because San Francisco is a very hilly city. Yeah. But if we go to an amusement park, we could get to the front of the line together. I'll be just scooting around that city. Scooters are back. We had scooters in 2016. This is like, remember us in 2016. Look at us. Look at us now. If you had told us that 10 years from now we'd be scooting around, dealing with a foot injury, I would say, yeah, that sounds awesome. Good for us. That makes sense. But we do have the electric wheelchair around the office.

1:41:28So I've been going around a lot on that, and it's pretty fast. And I don't know how to take the compliment, but I've had so many people come up to me and say, dude, you look like you were born to be on that electric wheelchair. And it sounds like they're saying I'm cool, but I don't think they totally mean that it looks like I'm cool. I think it might be the mullet. It might be the mullet, but it's a vibe. I just want to get a speaker system on there. I want to get a cup holder. I want to get it all tricked out, pimp my ride style. But yeah, it's been not the best week for my personal health. I did park directly next to that substation that we have across the street the morning that I hurt the calf.

1:42:08So more to come on that. It looks like maybe the Niners are in trouble. But yeah, just something I'm going to have to get over. But you know what? If I don't dunk again, that'll be fine. I had a solid 41-year round of dunking. Yeah. Okay. So I have two Fyre Fest, but before I do that, I did receive the best birthday gift I think I've ever gotten in my entire life. And it's still free ads, but I'm going to do it anyway. I was gifted an actual MVP trophy. Wow. Look at that. That's cool as shit. I think they're doing something for the Super Bowl slime time. I have an actual MVP trophy with my name on it.

1:42:45Let me look through it. And it's heavy, and it's awesome. Basically the greatest thing I've ever gotten. Oh, yeah. You got the kaleidoscope in here? Yep. I'm so pumped. That rocks. This is, I mean, an Oscar, an Emmy, a Golden Globe. Fuck all of that. Hell yeah. I have an MVP. Did you get slimed? I didn't get slimed. I do have slime. Slime is one of those things that kids love it, but it's not fun to have in the house. I feel like - I got to figure out if I'm going to bring it home for my kids or not. If you get the MVP trophy, you have to get slimed. I might have to get slimed. That's part of the deal.

1:43:15I do have the slime, so we might have to do that. We might have to put that in a video. But yeah, I have the MVP trophy. Now, I have two Fyre Fests. The first one is we, Hank, PFT, and I almost died on Monday because we have officially, finally, the van that never died, we have finally given it away. It is Vanny Woodhead, and we had to drive it to McCormick Place because it is going to be featured in the Chicago Auto Show, which is pretty cool. So if you're going to the Chicago, if you're attending the Chicago Auto Show, I think it starts February 7th. Very cool. It's all the new cars and everything's out there.

1:43:55What? Meves. What? Look at the picture me just sent. What did he send? He sent a... Oh, it's BFT is Stephen Hawking's. No. Disavow. Disavow. Disavow. that's a very good I've never been gonna have to tweet that I've never been to Little St. James uh so February 7th through 16th McCormick Place Vanny Woodhead is gonna be on display memes you're so mean for that disgusting uh Vanny Woodhead's gonna be on display it's gonna be on display people can take pictures with it people can go in it there's gonna be like a video that accompanies it it's pretty cool so we're pretty pumped that Chicago Auto Show was like hey these guys have a van that's uh famous enough that we'll put it on display but getting there hank all credit to hank he got vanney woodhead running again the engine is completely exposed in the middle of the van and it was five degrees and we just sucked fumes for an entire 20 minute drive yeah it was all carbon monoxide all carbon monoxide it was it was rough we had the windows down so that took it off a little bit but at at the at the stop signs and the red lights it got pretty gnarly inside that van yeah it was it was actually perfect that we did it because i think we all get a little sentimental about vanny woodhead for people who don't know we we bought a van for six hundred dollars on long island in 2017 did barstool van talk out of it did you know grit week out of it it does not it was we got more than six hundred dollars out of it so we were a little sentimental but driving to mccormick place and almost dying and realizing that this van can barely move anymore it was a good goodbye it's going to get a final beautiful send-off being displayed in the chicago auto show we have vanny two already i bought it a few months ago it looks exactly like vanny one that one will be able to drive around go to the combine all that stuff it was a good send-off for vanny woodhead it was a great send-off for it something tells me we might not have seen the last of that van yeah well we're actually trying we're in talks to to take it to the crusher and get it into this to like a 2 000 pound cube yeah the size of a dishwasher that we can then put into the studio yeah so we might do that but yeah it was cool so go check it out vandy woodhead the chicago auto show my second fire fest max this one i hate saying out loud but it's uh it's it's a problem when you have a dream and you wake up and you're like was i really just dreaming that and max my dream last night was uh a very vivid extensive dream that you and i signed up for a 10k and then the entire dream was how we get out of the 10k race and i woke up and i was like did i just really dream about me and max not wanting to run a 10k Like that's what's going on there.

1:46:56So we, we got out of it though. How'd you get out of it? Uh, we just didn't go. Okay. Yeah. That's a great way to get out of it. Yeah. But Max, I don't know what to say about that. The fact that I'm dreaming about you in, in my dream about you, it's us trying to avoid doing any physical activity. See, the thing is I would just never sign up for a 10 K. Yeah. But it also, the realism in that dream is so, it's so far fetched because of not me trying to get out of it. of the 10k it's me ever signing up for a 10k ever it was also in high altitude yeah now i don't know why i can't do a 1k 10k was in aspen it's not that far-fetched we have been talking about doing the 10k in the booth yeah i didn't sign up about fitness around here yeah that's probably and i saw the 10k uh anywhere guy that hank mentioned i saw the one he did in the dishwasher yeah that was crazy and so yeah i max i dreamed about you vividly and it was just us scrambling being like we can't run this 10k we can't do this is that the meanest thing to get out of it you could ever do to somebody to sign them up for a 10k like a charity 10k we should sign up for one just to cancel it now you're you're making your dream a reality what do you look at why are you looking at zach what are you looking at zach for max i'm not i'm not zach what are you gonna say i don't even think he was looking over here he might not have been looking over here he was looking directly at you.

1:48:18What's going on? I didn't see him do it, but I could feel him do it. I don't really know. What did PFT just say before? I said a lot of things. He said the 10K. What's the meanest thing that someone can do? Sign somebody else up for a 10K. Oh, got it. Yeah, which Zach kind of did. I should have read anything else on the list. The list was great, by the way, Zach. Everyone, I had a lot of people reaching out. Sassy Legos. Could be fun. It's going to be great. It's going to be great. Okay, Oldie, what's your fire fest? Good to see you, Oldie. Great to see you, boys. Love being back in the barn. Love you guys.

1:48:53Yeah. Yeah, buzzy, busy, busy. I was fired up to come here Monday. Had all my pack, luggage, all the snacks, candies, ready to rumble in the jungle, get to security, fired up, too excited. Go through, go to the security or the border patrol guys. How you doing? Good, good. Got to go. Be back Thursday. get in, go and grab maple syrup, go run to the end and try to get some donuts and Timbits. It's closed because everything, all the flights and stuff canceled. So I couldn't go past the international domestic thing. I'm trying to pay the lady 50 bucks. I got to get behind there. I need Timbits. I need donuts.

1:49:32You don't understand. So I'm buzzing around. I can't do that. I go back to the duty free where I had all the maple syrup and everything. And I'm looking. Oh, no. My luggage. luggage and so when i carry my carry rolly bag luggage is half clothes at the tickle trunk stuff and the other half zipped up is all the all the canadian treats yeah so the tickle trunk yeah like all my all my swag that i wear okay it's called the tickle trunk that's all a little knickknacks and stuff so i'm concerned that i don't have my luggage and i'm not worried about the tickle trunk stuff i'm worried about the candies yeah what kind of my family we had some We had some, can I say?

1:50:11Yeah. We had some coffee crisps there, some Kit Kats, some Smarties, some Arrows. I had some fuzzy peaches. I had some Swedish berries. And I'm scared. I'm thinking, oh, no, I can't do this. So I run, go to my gate. I'm sweating. I'm wearing the big coat. Now I'm profusely sweating, so hot. BO is at an all-time mass. All-time. And I'm, like, freaking out. I'm, like, I can't lose this luggage. So I go back. The lady helps me, escorts me out. and I have to go do my declaration again because I'm going to have to leave the country because I'm inside the airport. I already crossed. Boom. She helps me out.

1:50:45I'm freaking out. I'm like, I don't know where it is. She finally gives me the security guide. The guy at the gate, security's like, what are you doing here? Did you not go in? I go, yeah, I did, but I forgot my luggage. I can't find it. So we go, we work away. We go to security. Thank goodness it was there. I go back into the border. She's like, did you not just come into the country like 25 minutes ago? Yeah, I did. I know. I forgot my suitcase luggage. Anyways, got my luggage, came back into the airport, super excited, and that was my fire fest. I almost didn't have candies and treats for everyone at the office.

1:51:18Oh, my God. You guys are my family, and I love you, and that was the only thing I was concerned about was the treats. You do bring the maple syrup for my family every single time. It's awesome. Yeah. Every single time. Yeah, that could have been your Kendall Jenner moment where you go up to Customs and Border, and you just leave them with a little bit of Coffee Crisp, and then everything's good from that point on. Just smooth sailing right through. Yeah, there you go. You also had our good friend Mike Kadick, employee here at Barstool Sports. He slept in the same bed as you last night at the hotel?

1:51:48Yeah, he has residencies here himself in Chicago. Yeah, he lives here. Yeah, the key in his own place to go into, in and out, whenever he feels. We ended up going to the bar, having a couple lollipops there, and he ended up losing his keys in the, I guess, bets his car. Okay. So we're all about to leave in Deutsch. It's the three of us. And we said, okay, later. And as we're leaving, I get a phone call. Kadek, hey, I don't have my keys. Can I stay at your place? Absolutely. Come on over, honey. I got the king size ready to go. And he came back to the house, and then he ended up sleeping on the couch.

1:52:22And I said, you can sleep on the bed. He said, no. I don't know. I guess three hours later at 3 in the morning, we were face-to-face on my bed. I don't know what happened. He's thinking I dragged him into the bed because I kept trying to help him get in my bed. but I think he just got a little excited and wanted to come sleep with the big man. I love that. He's like, how am I in this bed? You definitely brought me in here, oldie. I'm bringing the big unit in there, the big center. There's zero chance. I'm a heavy guy myself, but I ain't banging him over there. And then he had no socks in the morning, so I woke up at 6.45, got to go.

1:52:53And I only got my cowboy boots. I don't have any of my luggage. I left all my clothes here because you know how I do with my luggage. Yeah, you come back and forth. Yeah, yeah. And then we went out to the bar and had a few. So I didn't have my stuff, so I had no boots. So I threw on my camp bar stool shorts, the white one see-through, and I went up to the 14th floor and went and jumped in the pool at like quarter to seven in the morning. No shoes on shirt. Went and got breakfast, no shoes. Walking like the guy in the NFL who wears no shoes to the games. Back home. Yeah. And I'm feeling like this guy walking in, I'm stepping on salt pellets all over the place going in there.

1:53:23But I got my food, went back up, seen Kadic, 845. He had a shower. He's like, you got an extra pair of socks? I go, unfortunately, I don't have any of my clothes in my hotel room right now. All in the office. We got to go back to the barn. So he rinsed up. I gave him 10 minutes in case he had to do what he got to do. And now you're here. Now we're here. Yeah. Now we're here. I heard somebody ask Goldie this morning, hey, did you shower this morning? And he's like, no, but I did jump in the pool. That counts. Yeah. Quick little rinse. That's water. Yep. Yeah. A little rinse. Okay, Zach, finish us off.

1:53:51My favorite first was going to just be how worried I was about how much porn was in that email and that I thought there was going to be an issue there. But I think we're past that. Shout out to Pete. Hope that at Brescia County is going well. secondly I had a big package coming in this week I made a decision to give myself an at home PC I was super excited it was probably one of the bigger purchases I've ever made I was so amped on a different tier so access to way more games which okay he had a problem with gaming too much but the new computer he's going to be able to game even harder Yeah. But even if you game at the same level, it just opens up the options as far as you download Steam.

1:54:35There's just so many different ways to do so. Okay. And I was very excited. I was emailing back and forth with this guy. We're planning it out. We're getting the build together. None of that's... I'm rambling. My bad. None of that's important. The day came where I was like, it's going to deliver today. And it was wet. Okay, let's go. This is going to be awesome. I can't wait. Get the delivery text at 535. It's coming in. Bang. 536, I'm in the elevator. I'm ready. I'm going down where's it at we're putting on the car we're putting the apartment get there no computer I checked the status it says sign for front desk I asked the front desk I'm like Sign for you guys you got did you accidentally take a computer that was not not yours or did someone else maybe take a computer that wasn't theirs he goes I don't know what you're talking about that guy doesn't work here anymore he hasn't worked here for two months whoever signed the seat or the receipt.

1:55:26I was like, well, somebody's got this computer. It's not me. And so I owe the front desk of my apartment and call back to an apology because I thought they were conspiring against me. And do you have the computer? I do have the computer now. Where was it? It showed up the next day. Oh, interesting. But I was pulling tape. I was submitting footage. UPS told me pretty much, suck it, there's nothing we're going to do. I thought I was going to have to burn down the UPS facility. I was legitimately ready to riot. I haven't seen you in that mood before. I felt like I was done such a disservice. Yeah.

1:55:59It sounds like maybe because you brought it up, they gave it to you. Yeah, they're like, he's on to us. Yeah. Yes. That could be it. Because, I mean, you said it was signed for by somebody that doesn't work there anymore, right? Devion hasn't worked there three months, two months. Right. So then word got around to Devion, hey, Zach Cornelius is on to you. And he's like, oh, fuck, I better bring it in. I hope that's not the case. I hope we live in a safer world. but I did finally get the package received but I worked up in my head that the entire building was against me and that's probably the worst part of my week.

1:56:32Yeah, and then have you set it up? I did set it up but I thought I had a mouse. I got a magic mouse. The magic mouse only works on the laptop. It doesn't work on the PC. So you got to get a mouse. So I ordered a mouse but then I didn't use it because we had a show this morning. Didn't want to open that floodgate. Wait, Max. There's more to that. So he realized he didn't have a mouse. He got a mouse off Amazon. The mouse was supposed to get here today. Then yesterday, he really wanted to get onto the computer last night. So he Uber Eats a mouse to his apartment last night, but then realized how much trouble he would be in if he started the game.

1:57:15So he had two mouses get there last night without using either of them because he thought he was going to stay up all night. Okay. That's actually really smart, Zach. Yeah, that's mature. Yeah, because you would have. I really would have. And now tonight you can stay up all night. Now we're going to rip double mouse maybe. Yeah, double. Triple periphery. Did you regret Uber eating the mouse yesterday, even though you got a new mouse that was also coming today? Yeah, because I don't know how returns go with that. So now I just haven't, I might just become a desk mouse guy. Yeah. I might just keep a mouse on me close here.

1:57:48It's kind of fun to have one. Keep that thing on. It feels like you're doing a little extra, you're a little more serious when you have a mouse. Yeah. A little bit more professional. You know, like I've stepped in this new tier of work ethic and that's with a second, with a second mouse. Yeah. Mouse having. Yeah. And it was not wet. Package are not wet. No. Oh, good. Good. And all those wet meals gone. Never again. Okay. All right. You and Mr. Portnoy should get together. You guys have the exact opposite problem. Mm-hmm. He got wet mail. He's got burn mail. Yeah, add them together. Feels like that.

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1:59:34I think we have four times, four more lottery ball guesses on this machine. and then we're getting the new machine. I personally do not want to get it. I don't care. I don't want to get it. Me neither. Yeah. I don't want to. I will guess 91. I would like Colton to get it. He's the only one I would like to get it. I'll guess 7. I would like to get it. Okay. I'll guess 100. 61. 60. 53. 5. If I get it, I'd be P. It's 8. Oh. 17. 8. I don't care if I get it. 4. I don't think that's true, man. That's also not true. I guessed it for you. No, no, that doesn't get... No, you're getting the cuckoo. It's sad that you're up to real tricks.

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