NBA Draft, Giannis To The Heat, Wyndham Clark, USMNT Team Captain Tim Ream + Mt Rushmore Of Hard To Spell Words

24 Jun 2026 · 2 h 34 min · 60 chapters

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In short

NBA Draft recap and reactions; Giannis Antetokounmpo traded to the Miami Heat; debate over Trey Young’s Wizards contract; interviews and segments on U.S. Men’s National Team captain Tim Ream and U.S. Open winner Wyndham Clark; World Cup talk (Portugal vs. Uzbekistan, Ronaldo/Messi/England/Ghana witch doctor); “Mount Rushmore” of hard-to-spell words.

Guests (interviewed)

  • Wyndham Clark: recent U.S. Open champion; discussed in a “great interview” segment.
  • Tim Ream: U.S. Men’s National Team captain (“Captain America”); discussed in a “great interview” segment.

Key claims / arguments

  • Trey Young re-signed with the Washington Wizards on a reported 4-year, $212M deal; hosts push back on “worst contract” takes, arguing Young’s value (elite assist production) and that the contract isn’t effectively untradeable.
  • NBA Draft felt “pretty straightforward,” with early picks largely matching expectations.
  • Giannis trade to Miami: hosts argue Milwaukee waited too long and the return (including Tyler Herro) may be insufficient; Miami’s plan is “get the stars, fill the rest later,” with defense as a near-term strength.
  • Celtics/Jalen Brown speculation: hosts suggest Brown may still be traded, but if not, they expect professionalism and no lasting fallout.

Notable examples

  • Draft: AJ DeBanson to #1; Darren Peterson to Utah; Cam Boozer to the Grizzlies; Caleb Wilson to the Bulls; “run on guards.”
  • World Cup: Ronaldo scored twice vs. Uzbekistan; England tied Ghana 0-0 after a “witch doctor” curse story about Harry Kane missing an easy chance; Messi and Mbappé both added goals; “ties are hot.”

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Chapters

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NBA Draft Discussion Begins

0:09 to 1:31

Discussion begins on NBA draft and Giannis joining Miami Heat.

“We're saying yes to more plans and finally getting outside, running, walking, just moving again.”

NBA Draft Discussion Begins

2:57 to 3:54

Discussion begins on NBA draft and Giannis joining Miami Heat.

“Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings.”

Analysis of Draft Picks and Reactions

3:54 to 9:50

In-depth analysis of draft picks, reactions, and team strategies.

“Yeah, we got a great pickup for the Caps.”

Wizards Contract Controversies

9:50 to 14:01

Debate around contracts and player performances, particularly Trey Young.

“Darren Peterson going to Utah, even though he didn't go, like we said, pretty much Ace Bailey all over again.”

Hot Takes and Jealousy

14:01 to 15:08

The hosts discuss hot takes in sports commentary and feelings of jealousy from fans.

“And again, we are like we make takes way more hot than that.”

Giannis Trade Analysis

15:09 to 16:04

Analysis of Giannis' trade from the Bucks to the Heat and its implications.

“Giannis gets traded from the Bucs to the Heat.”

The Celtics' Dilemma with Jalen Brown

16:05 to 16:46

A discussion on Jalen Brown's potential trade and the Celtics' decision-making processes.

“They're going to be awesome defensively.”

Understanding Jalen Brown's Emotions

16:47 to 17:59

Exploring whether Jalen Brown will be upset about being traded or staying with the Celtics.

Celtics' Professionalism

18:00 to 18:44

Hosts discuss the professionalism of the Celtics organization and Jalen Brown's future.

“Wait, so it's not the truth in your head?”

The Reality of Trade Rumors

18:45 to 20:03

Debating the realities and implications of trade rumors surrounding Jalen Brown.

“You don't think that Jalen Brown is going to be upset that he was dangled?”
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Jalen Brown's Future Outlook

20:04 to 22:20

Discussion on what Jalen Brown's future could look like based on trade scenarios.

“Wendy said the Celtics took a hard look in the mirror and decided we weren't going to beat the Knicks.”

Assessing Giannis' Impact

22:21 to 24:31

Evaluating the impact of Giannis joining the Heat and the state of the Bucs.

“Once the games are played, he's going to be.”

NBA Draft Reflections

24:32 to 26:36

Hosts share thoughts on the NBA draft and potential standout players.

“Then you finally get traded, and the centerpiece is Tyler Hero.”

Watches and Trends

26:37 to 28:00

Discussion about trendy watches and their cultural significance.

“It would definitely hurt, but man in the arena.”

NBA Draft Reactions

28:00 to 30:00

Discussion about the NBA draft and team performances.

“Okay, let's talk a little World Cup, and then we'll get...”

World Cup Discussion

31:29 to 39:39

Analyzing the World Cup performances and player highlights.

“Uzbekistan is a moderately real country.”

Mount Rushmore of Hard to Spell Words

40:21 to 42:00

Debate on difficult-to-spell words and team dynamics during the segment.

“It is Mount Rushmore of what's the exact phrasing?”

Bright Eyed Banter

42:00 to 43:00

The hosts engage in light-hearted banter about their moods and experiences.

“Hank came into this room just bright eyed, bushy tailed.”

Hard To Spell Words Discussion: Part 1

43:00 to 45:20

The group discusses common words that are difficult to spell, starting with 'restaurant'.

“I think it's the most common one, and it's the most commonly typed one.”

Hard To Spell Words Discussion: Part 2

45:20 to 48:00

Continuation of the spelling challenge, with words like 'kumbaya' and 'exercise' being debated.

“I said I just feel better about February.”

Honorable Mentions and Spelling Insights

48:00 to 50:20

Hosts list honorable mentions and share personal insights about spelling difficulties.

“So that's where we got screwed up, because I tried to spell it out, and I spelled it E-X-C-E-R-C-I-S-E.”

Final Thoughts on Spelling

50:20 to 56:00

The discussion wraps up with humorous reflections on spelling common words and personal challenges.

“If you do the spelling bee, I don't think I get anything that the Indian kids get.”

Hard Words to Spell

56:00 to 1:01:24

The hosts discuss challenging words and their spelling struggles.

“You know what I think might be the hardest word to spell, but nobody ever spells it.”

Hot Seat, Cool Throne

1:01:57 to 1:06:02

The hosts discuss various topics for the 'hot seat' and 'cool throne' segments.

“My hot seat are just people that are anti-international football games because I think we can all agree this World Cup's been electric.”

NFL and PGA Tour Discussions

1:06:02 to 1:10:05

The conversation shifts to NFL teams and changes in the PGA Tour structure.

“Yeah, I'm reading a pretty long article here.”

PGA Tour Structure Changes

1:10:05 to 1:11:40

Learn about the evolving structure of the PGA Tour and its implications.

“your way in mid-season through the challengers tour right so they made two divisions out of the out of the top.”

Brendan Sorsby's Situation

1:11:40 to 1:14:35

Discuss the challenges faced by NCAA player Brendan Sorsby amidst draft issues.

“I feel like he's gotten the worst advice every step of the way.”

Kent State Football's Missed Opportunity

1:14:35 to 1:16:43

Explore the implications of Kent State missing out on a local recruit.

“This is the worst day in Kent State history.”

Dusty May's Coaching Transition

1:16:43 to 1:19:56

Understand the impact of Dusty May leaving college basketball for the NBA.

“Yeah, I've just heard about how frustrated he's been with the transfer portal stuff to the point where he was – like he couldn't even count who was going to be on his team.”

Floyd Mayweather's Legal Troubles

1:19:56 to 1:24:00

Examine Floyd Mayweather's recent legal issues and financial management.

“My hot seat this week is going to be Edmonton Oilers fans because they announced a new head coach, former Columbus Blue Jackets coach.”

Floyd Mayweather's Legal Troubles

1:24:02 to 1:24:41

Examine Floyd Mayweather's recent legal issues and financial management.

“Nearly two-thirds of Americans in a nationwide blind taste test prefer Pepsi Zero Sugar.”

Interview with Wyndham Clark

1:24:41 to 1:33:08

Wyndham Clark discusses his U.S. Open victory and the challenges faced during the tournament.

“And now, here's a good friend, Wyndham Clark.”

Navigating Pressure and Expectations

1:33:08 to 1:38:00

Wyndham shares how he managed pressure and the reactions from the audience during his win.

“Winning two, I don't know if you can really say it's a fluke, especially on this golf course going against a really heavy top leaderboard with some of the best players in the world.”

Wyndham Clark's Tournament Experience

1:38:00 to 1:40:00

Learn about Wyndham Clark's strategy and mindset during his recent tournament.

“And like we got to figure out where we're at.”

Scotty Scheffler's Birthday and Clubhouse Reaction

1:40:00 to 1:42:00

Discover the dynamics between Wyndham Clark and Scotty Scheffler after the win.

“and then he was back to his normal self in the clubhouse.”

Adjusting to Playing Conditions

1:42:00 to 1:44:00

Hear about the challenges and lucky breaks during Wyndham's play amid weather changes.

“I mean, I feel like timeshares never work out.”

PR Strategies and Personal Branding

1:44:00 to 1:45:50

Wyndham discusses potential branding strategies and public perception changes.

“So you actually, the next time it's at Shinnecock, that's when your eligibility runs out.”

Reflections on Personal Rivalries

1:45:50 to 1:47:40

Wyndham shares a personal story about his rivalry with Baker Mayfield.

“And we go, have you ever drank out of it?”

Celebrating a Major Win

1:47:40 to 1:49:40

Wyndham reflects on his U.S. Open victory and the unique traditions that followed.

“Maybe that hate in your heart has gone away.”

Celebrating a Major Win

1:50:40 to 1:50:50

Wyndham reflects on his U.S. Open victory and the unique traditions that followed.

Celebrating a Major Win

1:50:54 to 1:51:30

Wyndham reflects on his U.S. Open victory and the unique traditions that followed.

“You find yourself in the center of the dance floor.”

USMNT Soccer Insights

1:52:00 to 1:59:44

Explore the evolution of the US Men's National Team's gameplay and coaching dynamics.

“We just beat Australia, so therefore we're the best at soccer.”

Captaincy and Team Challenges

1:59:44 to 2:02:30

Discuss the significance of being named captain and the challenges that come with it.

“Well, that actually goes back to what I mentioned before, is that the training sessions, right?”

Coaching Philosophy and Team Energy

2:02:30 to 2:05:20

Examine the positive coaching philosophy and its impact on team morale and performance.

“We're, we're just not, don't even, don't even like act like you're like wiping your nose or anything.”

Discussion on Game Rules and Hydration Breaks

2:05:20 to 2:06:04

Debate the fairness and practicality of hydration breaks and game rules in soccer.

“He's all about projecting energy, good energy in, in all moments, because he does feel that that is the best way to move forward and the best way to get the best out of everybody.”

Hydration Breaks and Game Strategy

2:06:04 to 2:08:38

Discussing clock management during hydration breaks and game fairness.

“It's, it's also, it's hot in some places and not in others.”

Believing in the Team's Potential

2:08:38 to 2:11:25

Tim Ream addresses the importance of belief in the team's capabilities despite external doubts.

“Just let the vibes just marinate for a little bit.”

Life Together During Camp

2:11:25 to 2:13:47

Tim shares experiences of camaraderie and togetherness during training camp.

“It sounds like that moment when anyone's been, you know, on a bachelor party and everyone looks around being like, what if we just bought a house together?”

Crowd Impact on Performance

2:13:47 to 2:15:25

Exploring how a supportive crowd enhances player performance and the game experience.

“Like in hockey, you score a goal, and they play it over the loudspeaker.”

Crowd Impact on Performance

2:16:03 to 2:17:17

Exploring how a supportive crowd enhances player performance and the game experience.

Crowd Impact on Performance

2:17:23 to 2:18:16

Exploring how a supportive crowd enhances player performance and the game experience.

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Wedding Weight and Frozen Drinks

2:20:00 to 2:21:58

Join the hosts as they discuss pre-wedding weight loss and the allure of frozen drinks.

“Is there a, like, hey, almost like a UFC fighter?”

The Humor of Farts

2:21:58 to 2:24:32

A light-hearted discussion on why farts are viewed differently by gender, exploring societal norms.

“Some guy walks around 130 pounds like, hey, buddy, I get it.”

Shoes and Relationships

2:24:32 to 2:27:20

The hosts debate the implications of shoe collections within relationships and personal ownership.

“My now husband was well off before we got married.”

Men's Desires vs. Common Gifts

2:27:20 to 2:30:18

Exploring the differences in how men perceive thoughtful gifts versus common expectations.

“My husband and I last one My husband and I were three other couples When somebody asked the guys what the male equivalent is of coming home to flowers.”

Birthday Shoutouts and Closing Thoughts

2:30:18 to 2:33:56

The hosts wrap up with birthday shoutouts and reflections on memorable moments.

“All gifts are nice if you think about it like that.”

Gratitude Expressed

2:34:00 to 2:34:15

Listeners are thanked for their support.

Acknowledgments Continued

2:34:15 to 2:34:43

Further expressions of thanks are shared.

Final Thanks

2:34:43 to 2:35:14

The hosts wrap up their appreciation.

Closing Remarks

2:35:14 to 2:35:44

Final thoughts before concluding the episode.

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2:57PFT Commenter:Okay, let's go.

3:17Pardon my take.

3:20PFT Commenter:Yeah. Pardon my take. Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, June 24th. And Giannis is a Miami Heat. And the NBA draft has occurred. Put on the wizard hat. And nobody beats the Wiz. Nobody beats the Wiz. So we'll start with the drafts. Because you put on the wizard hat. I feel like that's the sign that you want. but you're ready to talk to Wiz.

3:48Big Cat:It is, yeah. It's pretty subtle, but I'm glad you picked up on it. Hank and Max did request the Wiz hat. Yeah. For all Wiz hats. And then they tried to mock you. Then they tried to mock me. No, no, no. You were wearing the Wiz hat. You've been wearing the Wiz hat. I've been wearing it today, yeah. I'm getting in the spirit. It's DC day. It's DC day. It's literally DC day. Yeah, we got a great pickup for the Caps. Congrats on the wild card. And then... No, no, no, no, no, no. Oh. That's what we're talking about right now. We're talking about the Caps. We're talking about the Caps. Congrats to you, Max, on the wild card.

4:16Big Cat:Yeah, congrats, Max, on the wild card. You want to say it to me? Yeah, congrats on a share of the wild card. Well, no, as I previously reported on this podcast, Trey Young is going to re-sign with the Washington Wizards, which he did, 100 % accurate on that one. And then I came into the office today, and I was greeted with the peanut gallery, and a lot of people that work here have, was derangement syndrome, and they just can't believe that anything good could ever happen. Who is the peanut gallery? What were they saying? It sounded like verbatim, Shams Reply Guys. It was like, LMAO, generational overpay, can't believe they fumbled this so bad, blah, blah, blah, blah.

4:55Big Cat:A lot of stuff like that. But who said that? Who are the reply guys? Henry Lockwood would be one reply guy. Calling down from the balcony, like John Wilkes Booth, when I was just trying to walk across the basketball court. Well, you weren't wearing any Wizards gear on the biggest day of your franchise. and that's all i said at the time i wasn't yeah well the biggest date might have been

5:15PFT Commenter:yesterday when they signed uh trey young to four years 212 million dollars yes that is that is the

5:22Big Cat:accurate amount it is back loaded so uh it will drop as the cap moves up which will be fine got it um it would be i don't know like you can look at what trey young has done and yeah he's had his moments where maybe he's not the strongest defender in the world but he's a he's a very very good player as a matter of fact if you look at most assists per game in the history of the nba number one you would have magic johnson number two you'd have john stockton number three you would have trey young and last year he had 26 five rebounds 11 assists 60 field goal and how many games that's beside the point we don't need to get into the details of that okay um those are just

6:02PFT Commenter:the main numbers what do you say to our good friend wendy is he part of the the the trade the reply guys yeah the mocking guys he said i think this is instantaneously one of the worst contracts

6:13Big Cat:in the league yeah when he's got he's got whizzed range syndrome as well i don't think that they could trade this contract unless they attach the number one pick which is a reply guy which by the way which by the way brian winhorse i will acknowledge knows way more about the nba than i do he's way more plugged in that is stupid as fuck of him to say that's just bullshit that's it's not true because because it's not true like are you the only way you could trade that contract if you had to was if you had the first overall pick no it's not true for a lot of reasons didn't you say they maybe one of the reasons why that contract with the first over i don't think they could trade this contract unless they attach so that's not what he said yeah that's pretty much yes he said it's so bad they couldn't trade it no matter what they had unless it was the number one pick attached to it which is bullshit i don't think that's true i think when i think wendy if you look back on him when he doesn't think it's true either yeah that's probably an exaggeration at that point one thing when you might have been forgetting is that the new lottery rules make a guy like trey young maybe a little bit more valuable on a contract like that because a guy like trey young would keep you out of the relegation zone that's what you're going for it's just one day out of the relegation it's just one element of it i i also think that like we haven't really had any players that we've been building around for the last you know 12 years he's a good player what else are you going to do with that 49 million dollars this year who are you going to go get with that if he was such a big like building block why wouldn't the hawks have kept him that's a fair point i think things ran their course bad fit

7:45PFT Commenter:bad fit it's a good good counterpoint bad fit but he wants he's committed he wants to be a

7:51Big Cat:wizard and and we let him test the open market and there were a couple other offers for him and then he said i'm just gonna do those other offers but with you guys so he came back to us uh rumor on the street was it was the nets and the bulls that offered him that money and so we said you know what we'll do it because we believe in you too i listen it might not work i'll admit that you never know but but but for people to jump ahead and be like oh this is the worst contract in

8:18PFT Commenter:the nba oh i'm so it's disgusting literally what our job is what we react to shit like that all

8:25Big Cat:the time to say like it's the worst contract in the nba is a little ridiculous that's what we do little red just i can think of two off the top of my head joel and bead paul george bradley beale bradley beale with the wizards that's the other thing is like okay that's another reply guy refrain oh the bro just did the bradley beale over again that's wrong bradley was five years it's wrong it was five years and also bradley beale had a no trade clause that is the crazy part of the Bradley Beal contract. People pay out way too much money for slightly above average players all the time. Bradley Beal's no trade clause was the real issue.

9:00Big Cat:Guys like Wendy would say that that contract is so bad, it basically is a no trade clause. No, there's a trade clause. You just have to add the number one pick. Again, I think if you ask Wendy right now, I hate to tell you. Wendy, shut up and dribble. Okay? Sorry, Wendy. I love you, but that's a bullshit take. Okay. And again, I'm just seeing a lot of people that have whiz derangement syndrome. I'm just trying to have fun. I'm just trying to have fun with this team and be able to enjoy a product that is actually built to win. And I think that could win. And A.J. DeBansa is a massive, massive piece of that.

9:33Big Cat:I think they made the right pick tonight. That's the guy that I wanted. Wanted A.J. And I think he fits perfectly in that starting lineup, which should be a competitive lineup in the East next year.

9:43PFT Commenter:Yeah. And the draft was tonight. So it pretty much went what everyone expected. AJ DeBansa going one. Darren Peterson going to Utah, even though he didn't go, like we said, pretty much Ace Bailey all over again. The Jazz are going to pick whoever they want to pick. Cam Boozer to the Grizzlies. And then Caleb Wilson, who I'm very excited about, to the Bulls. And then a run on guards. And, yeah, I think we all expected it. The draft, this is a loaded draft. I feel like you couldn't really screw up the beginning of the draft, even going to A-cuff to the seven to the Kings. That's exciting for the Kings.

10:20PFT Commenter:The draft telecast was something. We had some interesting. The casting couch after every pick was quite something. And Lisa Salter's asking, who did she ask that to? Was it Daylon Swain who the Bulls took at 15? I can't remember. Oh, I think it was Nata Ment. She asked, when did you decide you wanted to be a first round NBA pick? Two years old? Three years old? I don't know. Probably your whole life. Yeah. I decided I wanted to be an NBA first round pick like almost 40 years ago.

10:55Big Cat:Yeah. I recently discovered that I could not be a first round NBA pick.

10:59PFT Commenter:Yeah.

10:59Big Cat:When did you stop believing? Yeah. It was a better question. It would have been funny if he was like probably like after lunch today.

11:06PFT Commenter:I was like, yeah, you know what? I'm going to do this. But yeah, any big takeaways from the draft? I feel like it was pretty straightforward. I'm excited. I think there's a lot of teams that are excited.

11:15Big Cat:I thought it was interesting that Carlos Boozer, Cam Boozer's dad, who works for the Jazz, was saying that any team that passes on my son is going to regret it. And then the Jazz passed on his son. He doesn't call the shot. He doesn't call all the shots. He does not call the shots. But still, that was an interesting comment from him. There was Dusty May. that he was watching every Michigan player get picked that he didn't get and getting very upset about it. But he did get a Michigan player. He got one Michigan player. He got Mora as Johnson Jr. He did not want any other Michigan player to go to any other team.

11:46PFT Commenter:I did like, too, that the Thunder got Chet like a guard dog for Wemby with Mara. They're like, hey, we'll just get a taller guy that he can be the guy who Wemby bullies.

11:57Big Cat:Or like a thick Chet.

11:58PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, the Grizzlies. I mean, Bennett Sturts is a stud at 16. Grizzlies getting Bennett Sturts and Cam Boozer. I don't know how. He's Thunder. Oh, he's Thunder now. Oh, Bennett. That's bullshit. Yeah, they trade him.

12:12Big Cat:Yeah, that's right. There's an immediate trade. That's bullshit. I don't like how the NBA does draft trades.

12:17PFT Commenter:Thunder just keep getting. They got to fix that. Well, yeah, they got to get guys in the right hats.

12:23Big Cat:Yeah.

12:24PFT Commenter:They got to get them in the Wiz hat.

12:26Big Cat:Everybody in the Wiz hat. Yeah. I'm a big gunna guy now. Is this a wizard or witch?

12:31PFT Commenter:It is a witch's hat, but it's a wizard

12:35Big Cat:Yeah, I mean What he's wearing is a witch's hat This is whiz derangement syndrome 101 Merely a question Yeah When you bought that hat Yeah, I didn't buy the hat

12:44PFT Commenter:There's been accusations, Piazza, you've been lashing out today And I feel like your tone might be a little bit I don't want to say triggered

12:51Big Cat:No, it's a celebratory day I'm very, very happy It's just sad Yeah, it's DC Day I'm sad that Hank felt the need to try to put me down and poo-poo it because he's upset he didn't get Giannis. That's not true, but I saw PFT from the balcony, and I just said, hey, PFT, no Wizards gear? It's the biggest day of your career. Then you started lashing out, calling me a Shams reply guy, just to question about your outfit. Then you walked over to the corner. No, there was other stuff that you said. Found a Wizards sweatshirt and tweeted a picture being like, let's go Wiz. No, I put the sweatshirt on because I was making a Wizards video.

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13:27Big Cat:Of course. Yeah. I don't understand. Listen, let people enjoy things, Hank. Let me be excited about my basketball team for the first time in a video. I am. I'm excited. You're excited. I'm excited for the Wiz.

13:36PFT Commenter:Is he lashing out to you?

13:39Big Cat:Yeah. I was sitting at my desk. Shane read a tweet and had a video playing. I just said, who has the worst contract in the history of the NBA? He said he was talking about Troy Young, and then he lashed out. I mean, it's a little early to say it's the worst contract in the history of the NBA. But they're not the ones saying that. Right. Yeah, Wendy's the one. They're just reporting what other people are.

14:01PFT Commenter:They're just playing video. And I was disagreeing with the takes. And again, we are like we make takes way more hot than that.

14:09Big Cat:But when I expect more from Wendy, when he knows better, maybe maybe that's that should

14:15PFT Commenter:make you concerned because he doesn't do hot takes. And he did do that.

14:18Big Cat:I think he did in the moment. He did in the moment. That's OK. We all have takes that we want to take back. The bottom line is I'm excited. And, you know, they hate us because they ain't us. I guess that's what I'm having to deal with right now. I'm seeing a lot of jealousy. I don't know how to respond to that because I've never had people be jealous about how great my team is. So now that I'm dealing with that, yeah, maybe I did get a little bit triggered at Hank. That's okay. But to be fair, it's easy to get triggered with Hank.

14:42PFT Commenter:Yeah.

14:43Big Cat:That's on you. It's kind of like Wyndham Clark. It's like no one hates Wyndham Clark. It's just because he's on top and they keep talking about him. It's not derangement syndrome. People are just sick probably of hearing about the Wizards as much as we have. Yeah, because they're so good. They're going to be so good. Also, I'm a big Brockton, Massachusetts guy. They're about to be so good. Brockton rocks.

15:02PFT Commenter:I think the Wizards are going to be good. I think you're in trouble, Hank, on your bet.

15:05Big Cat:Yeah, no, they've got a good young core.

15:07PFT Commenter:Yeah, and the big news of the day was Giannis was late Monday night. Giannis gets traded from the Bucs to the Heat. Well, we'll get to Hank's part, but I feel like the Bucs screwed this up just because they waited a year too long. Yeah, they couldn't. And they got a bunch of guys and picks. I mean, they got Tyler Hero. They didn't – Jimmy Haslam has said basically they didn't want to take Jalen Brown because they don't want to be in the middle, which I get that. But Giannis should have gotten more – the return should have been bigger for Giannis. And then on the other side, the Heat, Giannis and Bam are really good.

15:48PFT Commenter:They got to figure out how to fill out the rest of their roster. Maybe that's not a this-year thing. Maybe that's a next-year thing because Giannis will sign an extension in Miami. And I think it's like one of those things where, especially if you're Pat Riley, who this is his MO is like, go get the stars and figure out the rest later. Yeah. You now have the two stars and you can figure out the rest later. They're going to be awesome defensively. But it is funny looking at their team right now being like, OK, so who else is playing basketball?

16:13Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. And Kevin O 'Connor had an interesting point about this. He said that Jimmy Haslam, he was the driving force and going with the heat deal instead of with the Celtics deal. and he said it's because he didn't want to risk Jalen Brown wanting out of Milwaukee in a year because he just got done dealing with Giannis and the Miles Garrett trade situation so he wanted certainty and the Miami guys gave more certainty than if it had been Jalen Brown who would have

16:41PFT Commenter:just had to put him through that same thing again yeah who's in a worse spot right now um Giannis's brother who got left behind so thanasis got left behind or the other deal that was not remarkable whatsoever was the three-way deal where the the timberwolves traded julius randall to the nets the bulls got nick claxon which i was excited about because that was a quintessential situation where the bulls would have been on the other side of that where it's like trading picks and guys to get nothing the bulls just got nick claxon is pre-free agency is what they're calling it yeah um but so is it thanasus or is it julius randall having to move back to new york city to play for the nets the year after the knicks win the title do you think it's going

17:25Big Cat:to be julius do you think he's going to actually play for the nets i don't know it's that was one of those trades where it's like i don't know what's going to happen like what their intentions are of the nets of getting getting julius randall uh thanasus though probably if they don't figure out a way for him to get to miami uh he's definitely going to feel way more left way left

17:43PFT Commenter:out yeah way left out i think they will yeah so hank you immediately what was your tweet uh after

17:49Big Cat:janice got traded thank god no no no i was just you know going through the the state of emotions i just asked a question what was the tweet that you tweeted i i tweeted before what was your before before anything happened something along the lines like the more i think about it i don't want Jalen gone I hope it's the heat and then when it happened I said bang bang but do you realize that

18:13PFT Commenter:this is pro Jalen Brown probably is going to be traded still this is what I've come to and this

18:18Big Cat:this might be delusional this is just the the world that I've chosen to live in today because obviously everyone's like oh now Jalen's definitely going to be gone now that he saw that he was getting dangled as a as a trade piece yeah the the narrative that I have chosen in my head which I don't think is too far from the truth in my head.

18:35PFT Commenter:Wait, so it's not the truth in your head? This could definitely be true. It's the narrative in your head, but it's not too far from the truth in your head.

18:43Big Cat:Yeah, this could definitely be the case. You said it's the narrative that you've chosen because it's the one that makes you feel the best, but it's also probably true. Yes. Okay, got it. Brad Stevens, constantly professional. Celtics, professional organization. I know where you're going with this. Jalen Brown, professional. and the rumors that came out were like jalen brown probably asked to get traded and brad stephens said you know you've been great for our organization we've done right by you you've done right by us we are in your best interest going to try and do that for you because of you know the contributions you made to this team so jalen brown was not surprised to see that he was offered in the trade and i think brad stephens there's a chance he does get traded but i think if the trade is not best for the Celtics organization, Jalen Brown will come back and there will not be any butthurt feelings.

19:29Big Cat:You don't think that Jalen Brown is going to be upset that he was dangled? For more than dangled. But I think Jalen Brown said, I want to be traded. Okay. But that still stands. Yeah, he won't be upset. But I think, again, there are professionals. Like, if he knows Brad Stevens is trying to do right by him, if it doesn't happen, he's not gonna come back and play like oh this is bullshit i'm back on this team it's gonna be like yeah didn't work out now but you know i'm back i'm back with his team let's like he still loves jason tatum he still loves city boston celtics like if he's back playing for the celtics which i hope he is there's not gonna be any like hard feelings you don't think he's gonna go live on twitch and and be like yeah i want it out they didn't trade me i thought i was getting traded so

20:14PFT Commenter:Okay, so what the alternate reality is, the Celtics realize that they have to move Jalen Brown because they have limitations on their roster and they need to build around just Jason Tatum. Wendy said the Celtics took a hard look in the mirror and decided we weren't going to beat the Knicks.

20:35Big Cat:Yeah, that's Wendy's terrible takes. Oh, okay. I disagree. Like, Wendy's probably the guy I trust the most.

20:42PFT Commenter:Yeah, he's level-headed. so if the Celtics decided to this is what the other reality is the Celtics are like hey we gotta trade Jalen Brown they then tried to go all in to get Giannis for Jalen Brown Jalen Brown not all in no Hugo he went on Twitch saying it was his favorite year all this stuff Jalen Brown doesn't seem like a guy who's probably like super pumped about being openly shopped around but if he asked for it we're talking about a different reality this is the other reality of he could just be Brad Stevens like we're going to trade him and try as hard as they can to trade him and now he's not traded and you have to deal with being like hey man all that stuff we were trying to do that was just a joke so you good?

21:29Big Cat:that seems far fetched

21:30PFT Commenter:so the less far fetched is Jalen Brown saying I want to be traded and then when he isn't traded saying psych I don't want to be traded anymore

21:38Big Cat:he knows it's a business He wants to be traded, but if it doesn't happen, you've got to come back in and get back to work. But what about, okay, so I guess in one circumstance we're talking about if he's going to be upset about not getting traded or if he's going to be upset about being dangled in trade. But I think the real issue is, is he going to just kind of wave away all the reasons why he wanted to be traded in the first place? Do all those go away? Right.

22:04PFT Commenter:That's what I'm saying.

22:05Big Cat:I think that's once the season starts, yeah. Yeah, like this is offseason. Once the season starts, he'll be back ready to go.

22:12PFT Commenter:Jalen Brown's basically going to go into Brad Stevens' office and be like, hey, I said some things. You said some things. Let's just move on.

22:17Big Cat:Yeah. Okay. Let's push it off. And you think that's how he's wired?

22:23PFT Commenter:Yes. Is he going to be content? He's a competitor.

22:26Big Cat:Once the games are played, he's going to be.

22:28PFT Commenter:But couldn't you say he's a competitor? He wants his own team because he basically admitted to that when he said that in the Twitch live stream. Yes, but again, he knows he's got a huge contract.

22:36Big Cat:Like it's not easy. He's not necessarily the easiest person to trade for. One of the worst contracts in the NBA. They're going to need a lot back. A first overall pick, probably. Do you think he's going to be happy going into the season knowing he's a third option behind Hugo Gonzalez and Baylor Shireman? That's just not true. Well, the Celtics, those were the two people. That's what kept them from trading for Giannis. They said you can have anyone, but you can't touch Hugo and Baylor. The Celtics are not a team that just, like, they're not, like, Pat Riley is flashy. He doesn't care. He's old.

23:08Big Cat:He's just trying to make a splash, completely blow up their future. Brad Stevens is smart. He's not going to blow up their future just to get Giannis.

23:20PFT Commenter:Nick, sorry, Nick, Nicks, memes. What do you think about all these moves, given that you are on the top of the throne? Didn't really move the needle at all. I think if Giannis would have went to Boston, it would have. It would have been scarier. Yeah, because right now the Knicks are still designed to be the current Celtics roster. He traded away all their guys. So really nothing.

23:46Big Cat:The thing is, the Heat have to fill out a roster. We don't know what that team's going to look like at all because they've got a great front court. And then outside of that, I don't know who's going to shoot the ball for them.

23:56PFT Commenter:Andrew Wiggins. Yeah. No, I mean, he was good shooting the three this year. But yeah, they're going to be a defense first team. And I do think they'll be able to like, this is part of the Pat Riley, get the stars and then everyone else, everything else will fall in place. So it, and he has the track record of that working. I think that he won't be like a championship type team this year, but I mean, if Giannis is healthy and they have a few years of him and bam, they'll be in the mix. And then the Bucs, yeah, again, I feel bad for Bucs fans. is the fact that you basically were tortured for the last year and a half, maybe even more, with all this stuff.

24:35PFT Commenter:Then you finally get traded, and the centerpiece is Tyler Hero.

24:39Big Cat:Yeah, they definitely should have done this a while ago to get you guys something back in return that you can be sure to build around, be confident building around.

24:46PFT Commenter:Right. I mean, you would have had two years of Giannis if you traded him last year. So that part probably sucks for the Bucs. So, Hank, you think everything's going to be fine. has there been any any other like potential trades Stephen Shay was saying the jazz

25:02Big Cat:there's there's been reports that teams are inquiring obviously now that they know you know Jalen Brown's on the table so people are going to make calls he's

25:09PFT Commenter:got it he's got to take that back it could

25:10Big Cat:definitely I mean it's definitely like 35 % chance gets traded in the next

25:18PFT Commenter:two weeks and what about what about percentage share traded in the next six months

25:25Big Cat:lower oh okay lower in the next six months than in the next couple weeks this is the this we're

25:31PFT Commenter:in the hot zone yeah yeah that makes sense free agency starts next week so we're in the hot zone

25:37Big Cat:what would it take to get hugo from you because the fact that you won't throw hugo in makes me want him more a lot probably first overall first overall for hugo yeah oh sorry for hugo straight up you got a deal

25:52PFT Commenter:Max congratulations McDonald's All-American McDonald's All-American if Rico Bosco has anything to say about it I've been hearing this guy's name a long time a lot for a long time

26:05Big Cat:I'm not happy about this Max because I've been documented as being a LeBaron Phylon appreciator and respecter for I think like a year and a half this guy's awesome he's really really good yeah lebaron i think he's going to be a very very good nba player

26:24PFT Commenter:you got a stud sixer yeah sixer sixer any other draft thoughts anyone i mean the bucks did get uh nate ament tonight uh from from that trade and they also got braden burrys who i like yeah i mean i like i said the the the draft it felt like it went pretty much how we expected it to go and there's just a lot of good dudes that it's gonna be interesting to see how this

26:46Big Cat:all shakes out i do think that there's a there's a chance that darren peterson might end up being the best player from this draft i i believe that it's uh it was very much a crap shoot and you don't know exactly what you're getting based on the one year at kansas and there's a huge downside potential if you take him first overall so i have no problem i i like to ban so i think he's gonna be a great player but i would not be surprised if darren peterson is like an absolute fucking legend uh in a few years and you look back and you're like how did that happen that would hurt It would hurt. It would definitely hurt, but man in the arena.

27:19PFT Commenter:Yeah, that is part of the privilege of having the number one overall pick is that you have to make that pick, and you have to just live with it. Yeah. Also, Zach. That was why the Bulls had the – whatever happened, there was the four guys, and I was like, I want Caleb Wilson, but if one of the other guys ends up there, great. I actually think he's going to be a really good player, too. I'm so excited for him.

27:39Big Cat:Zach, tell me about the rainbow face. because A.J. DeBanson kept he keeps doing the rainbow face waving his wrist in front of the camera. So he's referring to it's an automobile baguette but it's a factory frosted with a rainbow bezel off factory. On a watch. I'm talking about a watch. It's a watch. And it was in a Gunna song. Gunna does have one. Gunna has one. XQC has one. I believe he has one as well. How much do these run? The factory frosted ones are like like 500 oh yeah okay 500 bucks of 500 000 oh what about the fake ones you can get like a really good triple a rep for like probably thousand all right zach can you try to find me a uh like the best looking fake rainbow face i can yes sir okay thank you let

28:33PFT Commenter:me know what that runs me um okay anything else by the way the bulls uh have a acronym slap that that's just what we're doing size yeah length athleticism physicality strafting big eyes length okay yeah yeah just yeah long guy slap just the biggest guys you can find i like i'm in on that

28:54Big Cat:i like that height matters is there any rumor uh about john morant being traded is he on the move oh i don't know feels like he always might be i was talking to t bob the other day i but he wants him on the pellet yeah he just keeps tossing out t bob he keeps tossing out uh new orleans scenarios yeah yeah yeah i don't think that's i it was i thought it was a great draft i think great draft i think great draft all around guys the bulls the wizards and the sixers all got better today like what the grizzlies did yeah like what the grizzlies did a lot like what i mean the thunder are just

29:27PFT Commenter:like cheating at this point with the fact that they have also like I said Darius Acuff is maybe my favorite player in the draft in terms of just watchability the Kings are going to be fun Darius Acuff like that's a guy that's that's what this draft has more than anything is like there's a lot of fan bases that are walking away from tonight being like I'm excited to watch my basketball team next year because there's something promising that could be something bigger that I get to tune into and get excited for. Yep. Okay, let's talk a little World Cup, and then we'll get... We have Mount Rushmore of hard-to-spell words, and then we have a great interview with Wyndham Clark and a great interview with Tim Ream.

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31:28PFT Commenter:PFT, I have a question for you. World Cup. Yep. Is Uzbekistan a real country? Uzbekistan is a moderately real country. Okay. That seemed like preseason football that we watched today. I don't know who played Uzbekistan. I think they scored a lot of goals. but I would say anyone who scored a goal in that you should actually feel bad for yourself for

31:47Big Cat:bullying yeah I mean there were some accusations and some people actually pointing out that players on Uzbekistan might literally be plumbers okay like literally part-time plumbers yeah if you can imagine the the amount of work that would go into Uzbekistan toilets I imagine that would be more than a part-time job yeah pretty much a full-time job so who do they play they played against some team that spoke Brazilian. Two teams that both made it to the largest stage in sports today, Portugal and Uzbekistan, played together in the World Cup.

32:19PFT Commenter:Okay, and how did Ronaldo do? Ronaldo did. I mean, he played pretty well. He had two goals for country today. Oh, two goals. Yeah, two goals for country. So he's tied for Messi's worst game in the World Cup. Zach, do you mean a brace? Or a brace. That's correct. But he's tied for Messi's worst game. Yeah. Yeah, in these early stages. Because Messi scored two goals again. He's got five. I believe that's correct. In these early stages of the World Cup, currently Messi's up a couple goals. Actually, no, it's a few. A couple is two. A couple, two, few. Is three. You are correct. So a few goals. He's up a few goals.

32:52A light few. Yeah. You know, anything can happen.

32:54Big Cat:We've got Colombia coming up next. Looking forward to it. You know, when all the really selfless play today gets, I mean, fifth minute, go ahead, puts one in, feeling good. Very selfless. Does it again. He said, look, oh, we got a free kick. outside the box, let's spread it around. Let's let the boys eat a little bit. I think that was a beautiful thing. I will give him this. That free kick from outside, that was a cool play because everybody in the stadium thought Ronaldo was about to kick it and then probably under threat of being fired or worse, he had to let his teammate kick it. And then he did a very convincing job acting, pretending to be happy that his teammates scored a goal.

33:32Big Cat:Swallowed his pride. I got a question. Is that what that thing in his throat was? that's an Adam's apple and he's got like a 10 out of 10 I think testosterone a little too much maybe he might have had some work done on the Adam's apple I think he might have shaved it no like an Adam's apple implant got it would you say that

33:54PFT Commenter:when an athlete says something like I'm back hey guys I'm back do you think that's something that should be uttered after beating Uzbekistan?

34:09Big Cat:It was double I'm back. So it was a I'm back I'm back. Right. But the question

34:14PFT Commenter:the question stays the same. I'm back for Uzbekistan group stage. I mean as a 41 year old to score in his 6th World Cup I mean he's back he'll always be back.

34:30Big Cat:No you can't always Today he showed you he's double back. Are they only playing Uzbekistan for the rest of the tournament? No, it'll be Columbia next.

34:35PFT Commenter:If they are playing Uzbekistan for the rest of the tournament, then he might be back. If they just play Uzbekistan every week?

34:43Big Cat:The guys from Uzbekistan, great hustle out there. Maybe he was just telling his teammates when he was going back on defense.

34:48PFT Commenter:Oh, okay. No, that doesn't happen. He doesn't do that.

34:52Big Cat:He was making all the runs, though, today. He was? Well, a lot of the runs today. On offense. Most of the runs on offense today he made. There was one where he probably could have got there, and didn't get there. Do you do the celebration? Do you do the... Suu. Yeah, the Suu. I don't have the hand-eye coordination, but I do do it sometimes. What does Suu mean? I don't have direct translation, but it's fun to say. I think it means yes. I think it's celebration. In Brazilian. In Brazilian, my bad. You're right. He scores a goal, and then he just goes,

35:20PFT Commenter:yes. I'm happy for you, Zach, because it's like... It's... What was Meadows? Richie April? No, no. Jackie April. Jackie April and Tony Soprano in the bathroom when Tony says, put your hands up. Just put your hands up and fight me like a man. I needed that out of Ronaldo. I needed a little fight. He had to put his hands up. So I'm happy he put his hands up today and there's at least a little fight out of him. I think against Uzbekistan today, the entire world knew he'd do nothing less. Right. Right. He showed up for country. Could have gotten a hat trick. Selfless play today. Yeah. And then we had, I mean, the golden boot is insane.

36:00PFT Commenter:because Messi scored two more goals. Mbappe scored two more goals. Holland scored two more goals. Brace. It's pretty fucking nuts. It's been an awesome world.

36:08Big Cat:Holland could have had four goals last night.

36:11PFT Commenter:Yeah.

36:11Big Cat:He was all over the place.

36:12PFT Commenter:That was actually a, they'll create his last goal where he like was upset about how the play was going. Yeah. And then was like, wait a second. It's still going on. Let me score this goal. That was electric. Norway's fans are awesome. I had no idea that Norway's fans were going to be this cool. Yeah. They're incredible. And then today, the Ghana witch doctor worked because Harry Kane bottled it. Is that a correct term? It was a bottling. Yeah. Absolute bottle. Yes, sir. Yeah. And England ties Ghana 0-0. So a Ghanaian witch doctor said that she put a curse on Harry Kane, and he missed an absolute easy layup.

36:49PFT Commenter:And I think it worked. I think the witch doctor worked. I think we should probably get the witch doctor on the show.

36:54Big Cat:Yeah, so the witch doctor was about, Harry Kane was about seven, eight yards out, and traditionally Harry needs to be inside the six if he wants to score. And then he just absolutely baggioed it over the top. He smashed that. As they say in England, synodine to Rose Zed. Yeah. Malisek was right. The witch doctor, I believe it's a man from Ghana. And what's crazy is in the African federations, they have rules against witch doctors. that's fair like their actual soccer organizations say like it is against the rules of soccer to have a witch doctor put a curse on an opponent for any reason right so he had previously cursed ronaldo which which worked then he cursed harry kane today which also worked we need not only to get him on the show i would like to hire this witch doctor as the tournament progresses uh for any teams that the united states happens to be playing i think we need to figure out how to get this witch doctor It's like it's the modern day little B.

37:55Big Cat:Can I see a picture of the witch doctor? The base god right here. They're just showing the. There he is. Oh. And he also he does the thing like the like the LeBron chalk celebration before the games.

38:06PFT Commenter:That's crazy. I literally just got shown for being a reverse misogynist. The doctor was a man. But the witch, the witch was not a woman. Yeah. But the doctor was a man. The doctor was a man. Yeah. I thought I assumed the doctor was a woman. Yep. Good for you. How stupid of me. Good for you. Yeah, that was very progressive. Okay, anything else from the World Cup that we got? It's been awesome.

38:30Big Cat:It's been awesome. I really enjoyed talking to Tim Rehm today. I had kind of a realization of what Poach is doing to this team and how he's being so effective. Poach is like Tibbs. A little bit more hair. But the knock against Poach in the past. Wait, Tibbs has more hair. Yeah, I think so. I haven't seen a recent picture of him. Okay. But the knock against him has been for his club teams that he runs them too hard. Grinds them. Works them too hard over the course of a season. They get burnt out by the end of the year. This is the perfect scenario for a guy like that. Yeah, you can burn them out.

39:04Big Cat:For soccer tips. You've got just a handful of games. Get fired up. Get amped up. Leave it all out on the field. And then go on to whatever your next job is afterwards. Yeah. I'm very optimistic about what the team can do. and like you saw what happened with England today. England's one of the favorites in the tournament. Any team can tie any team in this tournament.

39:25PFT Commenter:Yeah, ties are hot. Ties are hot right now. Yeah, I agree. It's been fun to watch. All right, we're going to do Mount Rushmore of hard to spell words and then we have Hatsi Coulterone, Wyndham Clark, Tim Ream, and guys on checks. What a show. Okay, Mount Rushmore is brought to you by our friends at Microsoft. This segment is sponsored by Microsoft 365 Copilot. What if you could add an AI assistant to your work without leaving your workflow built into Microsoft Word, Excel and Outlook? Copilot works where you work, helping you do more in the apps you already use in Word. Copilot helps turn scattered notes into a first draft.

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40:37Big Cat:We'll save it for the honorable mentions, I think. But we had the brainstorm was all time.

40:43PFT Commenter:Yeah. I'm excited to hear the honorable mention It's a stacked team for this draft Stacked team I'll say it's a tough thing to come up with As someone who's bad at spelling Because usually when you're misspelling the words You think you got them right Yeah I was trying to think of words And typing them out And if I could spell it correctly I wouldn't put it on my list We did that too But there's a lot of words They just trip you up They just trip you up Okay. Who's first? Is it last?

41:15Big Cat:Yeah, we were first last time. We were second. That would probably mean were first. Or no, it's PFT first. PFT first. PFT is first. Yeah. And you just moved down. Yeah. So that would mean were first. PFT is second.

41:30PFT Commenter:PFT is first. I was last last time.

41:33Big Cat:So you're second.

41:34PFT Commenter:Yeah. Got it. PFT is first. He goes from third to first. So you move down the list. Yeah. And then we go to third on Friday. I love it.

41:43Big Cat:Okay.

41:43PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right. So we're all in agreement.

41:46Big Cat:Yep. Love my guys. All right. Love it. And then every three days, you guys got it. Yeah.

41:51PFT Commenter:And how are we vibes wise going to this Mount Rushmore? We left the fans on a cliffhanger last Mount Rushmore.

41:58Big Cat:Great. I think everybody's got a great attitude today. Hank came into this room just bright eyed, bushy tailed. It's great to see him like this. PFT's had a bad attitude all day, but I'm in agreement. I'm you've been lashing out. I'm in a great place today. This is an all time. Everything gets turn around day for me. Have you been lashing out today? No, I've been engaging in dialogue. Just good names. Max, good, good old fashioned. I've lashed out twice when I've seen it. I don't know that you can say lashed out when when when you started it. I didn't start one of them. I definitely started the other one.

42:33I was telling everybody Max is making bread.

42:35PFT Commenter:Yeah. Why were you saying? I don't know why memes kept telling everyone I was making bread. Because people are just like, hey, where's Max? I'm like, I don't fucking know. He's probably making bread.

42:43Big Cat:Yeah, except you left out the I don't fucking know part. He's making bread in the kitchen. And so then I went to the kitchen to look for Max, and then he wasn't there.

42:52PFT Commenter:But he was in the kitchen eating Italian food.

42:55Big Cat:Okay, so that's basically making bread. Yeah. Same thing.

42:57PFT Commenter:Yeah.

42:58Big Cat:All right, PFT, you're up first. Okay, I'm going to go with one-one. Restaurant. Oh, okay, we had it on there. Number one. Yeah, that was it. I think it's the most common one, and it's the most commonly typed one. And I would say that I get it correct about exactly 50 % of the time. And I've been typing restaurant for about 34 years and trying to spell it. I still can't do it right every time. I think it's an excellent pick. I think that's my one one as well. Easy. I still can't spell it right ever.

43:28PFT Commenter:Big time. What do we want to do, boys? Do you want to go one or two? I like two. You like two? I like one. Memes, you'd be the tiebreaker. Memes wanted us to take pepperoni again. Yeah, pepperoni would be a hard word to spell. This is a tough decision. It's up to you. You have to make the decision. You make the decision. Make the decision. Make it. I think. Okay. I'll go one. One. All right. I agree. Because one, you're not in practice. Two, you spell weekly. February is our first pick. February, you just don't spell it correctly. You forget the R? Always forget the R. Always forget the R. Okay.

44:12PFT Commenter:All right. Oh, you guys don't like it. Good pick. No, no, no. That's fine. P.A.T.'s nodding his head in a mocking way.

44:19Big Cat:I'm not nodding my head in a mocking way at all. Okay. I was waiting for Hank to start to pick it apart. Those days are gone. Okay. Kumbaya. Great pick.

44:32PFT Commenter:Kumbaya. Kumbaya.

44:34Big Cat:That actually, not a bad...

44:38PFT Commenter:Thinking about that?

44:39Big Cat:Take it to the list. Kumbaya. If you beat Kumbaya right now, that would be awesome. Is that even a real word? Yeah. Yeah, it's a song. It's a banger. That doesn't mean it's a word. We're going to go with pseudonym. Okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah, that word sucks to spell. And then Zach. Kumbaya.

44:59PFT Commenter:Kumbaya. I feel a lot better about February now. Kumbaya. Yeah. How do you spell it? No, I just didn't know that's the direction that we were going. Yeah, I just never used that word.

45:07Big Cat:No, pseudonym. I think it's P-S-E-U-D-O. Yeah, I would like you to define that word. I've spelled it once in my life. N-Y-M-N. Well, originally it was pseudonym. I didn't say anything about your...

45:19PFT Commenter:I didn't say anything about... I said I just feel better about February. That has nothing to do with what you said. Kumbaya. I started to feel better. Yeah, kumbaya. Kumbaya. Kumbaya. All right. Zach? we would also like take a xylophone okay okay yeah let's go too yeah you want to go too alright we'll just stick with the calendar you guys didn't have xylophone number two no we didn't we'll stick with the calendar we'll go Wednesday we screw up Wednesday all the time Wednesday just screw that up just commonly just fuck it up

45:53Big Cat:okay good pick for my second I'm going to say

46:01Big Cat:separate. On the list. PFT, I like your list right now. Cool down a little. We're kumbaya over here. We're competing. It was a good pick. It was on our list. Good pick. And next one, I'm going to say definitely.

46:16PFT Commenter:Okay.

46:17Big Cat:Good pick.

46:17PFT Commenter:That's a good pick, too. Yeah. Max and Memes, do you guys want to go? I think 12 is funny, and we did spell it wrong when we were talking about it. Yeah. Yeah. You want me to say 12? I'll say 12. Yeah, I mean, I think we collectively say 12, but we did. I think we... What? Based on the team after us, when they pick, I think we could get it on the turn. Oh, yeah, you're right. Okay, good point. That's a good point. What do you mean by that, memes? They're going SAT words. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Four is impossible, but I don't... Whatever you guys want to do. I'm going with four. You like four? Yeah.

46:53PFT Commenter:I tried to spell it, and I spelled it wrong. Yeah, go four. Okay. rhythm yeah that's i've never i never get the h that just doesn't exist in my book yep that's really tough one and i even when i see it spelled out i'm like that's wrong and then you want to float the y sometimes that's why i come before after yeah yeah it's a go yeah you could double double y yeah rhythm fucks me up every time okay pick onomatopoeia uh no conscious that's okay

47:23Big Cat:That's on our list. I had it on our list. There we go. Good pick. And then, Zach, pick any word, Zach. Any word you want. Okay, we'd also like to take...

47:35Big Cat:Quesadilla.

47:36PFT Commenter:Okay. Memes threw that out there. Yeah. The reason why we didn't have Quesadilla on our list is memes said Quesadilla, and then I spelled it, and I nailed it the first try. So, all right. The last one is just a complete own of Max and myself. Max, would you like to say it? Because we did the testing system for this, and we got it wrong, which says a lot about us. But go ahead, Max. We're going to go with exercise. Exercise, that's a good pick. Exercise, there should be a Z in there. That's where we got. I agree. There should be a Z in exercise. So that's where we got screwed up, because I tried to spell it out, and I spelled it E-X-C-E-R-C-I-S-E.

48:15PFT Commenter:I thought there was a C next to the X. And Max just kept on looking at saying, where's the Z? The Z should be in there. I was like, no, no, that's not how people spell size. Spell size. There's Z in there. Exercise. Exercise. It sounds like EXC. You're like exering your size.

48:35Big Cat:Okay. Yeah. Oh, your size. Yeah. You think of size and exercise like how big you are. I'm working on my size. Yeah. Whether you're trying to get smaller or bigger, your exercise is. You're lowering your size. Or maybe gaining your size. Yeah. Exercise. I've never thought of that, but yeah, you make a great point. Yeah.

48:56PFT Commenter:I commonly misspell it with, I throw in the C after the X. Yeah. Because it sounds like that. Yeah. Exercise. It should be a Z. But there also should be a C after the X. Exercise. Yeah. It's not exercise. Exer. Yeah. X-E sounds like exer or exer. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, what the fuck? So double misspell. So on the size, you go C-I-Z-E, exercise. Yeah. Everyone's agreeing with the Z. Well, I don't think we spelled it right once. It's a good point. It's an outstanding point.

49:26Big Cat:Okay. Kumbaya. All right, Kumbaya. This is the last pick? Yeah. I'm going to go with the word misspell. Okay. Misspell is very hard to spell. M-I-S. Two S's? M-I-S. P-E-L-L. It is two S's. M-I-S-S-P-E-L-L. Yeah, two S's. All right. Good Mount Rushmore. Kumbaya. look at it yeah i love that rush for i thought i'll i'll be honest me and zach did uh i was like you know let's do one one on three what you think your one one is he said wednesday i thought that was ridiculous but you guys had it on your list so so i apologize zach well our i was like we can save that for the fourth round no one's taking that our plan is we

50:11PFT Commenter:We were basically picking words that we use in a semi-common fashion, and then we'll trip up. Like, there's words, obviously. There's words. If you do the spelling bee, I don't think I get anything that the Indian kids get. But I don't. They're just up there ripping words. It's like, I've never even heard of this word.

50:31Big Cat:Originally, with pseudonym, I was saying pseudonym, but I thought that was going to get rejected because it's too... like PFT commentary is a pseudonym. Pseudonym. It is pseudonym. Yeah. So that was a word that gets used like a decent amount. That was one that was like, yeah, that's an alternate name that.

50:52PFT Commenter:Nom de guerre. Yeah. All right. What do we got for honorable mentions? We're in a soundproof booth back here, and we can still hear Mincy screaming. Go yell at him. Go yell at him. Tell him to shut it down. Say it's the middle of the fucking day. People are working. Go. Yell. That's hot. You have a full, full, say, I sent you. All right. Honorable mentions. Necessary? Yeah, necessary is a great one. Necessary fucks me up. Oh, this is good. I mean, it's crazy. It's three o 'clock in the afternoon. I would say. He's still yelling. Did you pick conscious? No, you'd hate it. Yeah, that's a good pick.

51:31Shane told us rotisserie. That was a good one. Yeah. Whoa, wait.

51:35PFT Commenter:He just said it. We didn't put it on our list. We didn't use it. Yeah.

51:40Big Cat:On our list at number 21, there's protein. I believe that's the word because it's spelled P-R-O-T-E-N-E.

51:50PFT Commenter:Is that protein? Yeah, protein. Zach, why don't you start off by giving us all your honorable mentions? Protein's hard. Exhausted is hard. Several of the months.

51:59Big Cat:Protein is P-R-O-T-E-I-N. Yeah. Wait, several of the months? Yeah, December.

52:06PFT Commenter:Okay. I threw an S in there, which is not good. I know that's not the case anymore. That one's pretty... We had a tough time. We had to revert to text-to-speech in the brainstorm, so it was tough.

52:18Big Cat:Prosciutto, Connoisseur, Tsunami. Connoisseur's a good one. Wrinkle. Wrinkle's pretty easy. How do you usually do Wrinkle? Wrinkle's pretty easy. In this process, I think if Zach is younger, and I'm guessing technology's been around, I don't know that he's ever spelled.

52:38PFT Commenter:Yeah, because he's got the squiggly line. There's no need to spell.

52:42Big Cat:You just do auto-try.

52:44PFT Commenter:You talked about protein?

52:46Big Cat:Protein, proton. Phonetics, which is kind of how me and Zach live our life is phonetically.

52:51PFT Commenter:What about license? I always think there's an extra S in there.

52:55Big Cat:License is a good one. Very.

52:57PFT Commenter:Was it? Very. Very? Yeah. Like V-A-R-Y? This is a very hard word to spell. I get caught with the I-E a lot. Wait, very or very? Very. V-A-R-Y. You either get hit with the I-E, the V-E-R-I-E, or you get hit with the very, V-A-R-I-Y. No, no, no. Wait, I-Y. Yes, so very. Are you just saying this dinner was very good? No, he's saying I-Y is crazy. No, Zach. Are you saying the variety or very? He's saying this dinner was very good. He struggles with the word before good. knowing when to use the very as in this like this meal was very good or things can vary right those that makes sense just spell those like very but v-e-r-i-e for very but that actually doesn't make sense i don't think i've ever done very for let's give it let's get come on you got both varies down see that's it that's what i think i do like the there there there yeah that one that one's tough i don't think very and no you guys wouldn't put very and very it's not like no it's

54:04Big Cat:No, they're two totally different words. I don't think that there's any word in the English language that ends in I-Y, though. No, he said I-E. Yeah, but he said I-Y is one of them. Sometimes. Because Y is sometimes a vowel. Yeah, but I-Y is not a thing.

54:23PFT Commenter:Okay. We're going to not track. Sorry, hey, you didn't put it in your list. It was an honorable mention, and that's fine. Tournament? I would just say tourney. I actually would like to say that. I'm more interested in saying that. Yeah, no, we didn't hear all the sex. What about diarrhea? Diarrhea is going. Yeah. Tough one. Good pick. Memes kept on saying diarrhea. We had forecast. Okay. Philanthropy. Resource. Keep going. That was pretty much it.

54:48Big Cat:We covered most of it. What about yours? What about yours? I was going to try and get McConaughey in there, but. Names don't.

54:54PFT Commenter:What was forecast there? That was impossible. What's going on with forecast? I got forecast on here. F-O-R-E-C-A-S-T corrected. What was it? I just missed the E. yeah oh yeah okay yeah yeah i like a lot of guys put too many e's where they don't need to be and then not enough ease where they're supposed to be yeah yeah just kind of guess our resource resource i think i got down yeah i my my really dumb one is no zach you said resource oh you how would you spell resource well i got it right here r-e-s-o-u-r-c-e yeah but how would you misspell it would be R-E-S-O-R-C-E

55:28Big Cat:okay yeah yeah what about

55:31PFT Commenter:you're actually like I actually think hearing a lot of your spelling I think you're just an efficient speller because you're basically like hey this O-U there's no need for O-U just make it an O I get caught up spelling things how they sound which you can't do

55:47Big Cat:what about Favre Favre yeah Favre Embarrass. Yeah. Is a tough one. I think we had that. Receive is a tough one. Yeah. Disappear. Disappear. I screw up the double S, double P's. Yeah, it's only one S. You know what I think might be the hardest word to spell, but nobody ever spells it. Like, I don't think I've ever actually written this word, but it's crazy to spell. Prerogative.

56:15PFT Commenter:I'm not spelling that. No.

56:16Big Cat:I've never written it before in my entire life. Yeah, I'm not spelling that. It's P-R-E-R-O-G-A-T-I-V-E. Pretty much impossible to spell right the first time.

56:28PFT Commenter:Zach, I'll give you one that my brain just can't get right and always second guess. It's very easy. It's not really misspelling, but I always am second guessing couch and coach. Like, I'll spell coach or couch, and I'll just be like, wait, did I get that right? I don't know what it is about. Those could be interchangeable. I see that. Right, right. Because you're just swapping out a letter. Hank, you got any honorable mentions?

56:58Big Cat:Mischievous, Bologna, Bologna, Bolognaise.

57:01PFT Commenter:Bolognaise, okay.

57:04Big Cat:Prosciutto, Surveillance, I think we said. Connoisseur, we said.

57:09PFT Commenter:Yogurt.

57:10Big Cat:Resource.

57:11PFT Commenter:How do you spell yogurt? Zach, how do you spell yogurt? I didn't throw that one out there, but yogurt is Y-O-G-E-R-T, yogurt. Yep.

57:23This is honorable mentions, not spelling bee. We're doing honorable mentions. Yeah.

57:27Big Cat:Yeah. Sweeney's hard. What? Sweeney? I said McConaughey. He's like Sweeney.

57:33PFT Commenter:Sydney Sweeney? Yeah, I get caught typing I-E at the end of that a lot.

57:37Big Cat:It's E-Y, though. I don't think she's not the one that's hard.

57:42PFT Commenter:Why? Yeah, true. That's true. By the way, Zach, I need to use that. Yogurt was not spelled correctly the way you spelled it. Max, after the reaction of how I spelled yogurt, the outward laugh, I was able to... Context clues. All right, I like to bow out a spelling. No, I like this. It's kind of interesting. Somewhere the Y and the IE became an interchangeable piece. It's the sometimes Y, so you don't know when the sometimes is. They never get to that part. No, but that's...

58:17Big Cat:But isn't sometimes Y the I before the E? No, that's like I before E except after C. C, that's right. But there is... There's a couple words that doesn't work. Yeah, no, what Zach's saying is like Y can be a vowel. Like in the word Y, W-H-Y. I think hooked on phonics might be a scam. You got to live and die by the squiggle. You just go out.

58:40PFT Commenter:Yeah. I see what you're saying. Okay. Yeah, yeah. The squiggle is huge. The squiggle is huge. Really, spelling just doesn't matter anymore because you just got the squiggle. Memes, what did Mincy say to you when you yelled at him? So it was actually a scene outside because they're doing a live stream for the World Cup game. There was five people trying to get him to stop, and he just wasn't registering. Did he stop? Locked in. He was finishing his workout. No, no. Is he still going? No, he's done now. But Blutman recorded the entire thing. McCarthy was yelling at him and like four other guys to stop.

59:15Big Cat:he's the worst he's the absolute worst for a long time my autocorrect was so screwed up from my tweets and shit that it would actually correct things that were spelled correctly into being spelled incorrect it went the opposite way where it became harder to spell them isn't that

59:29PFT Commenter:the worst when you when you uh capitalize something that just stays capitalized yeah on your text message that sucks yeah so you're like i didn't really mean to do that there's a thing on spell check where if you accidentally hit i think it's like forget or never mind it'll just continue to allow you to spell that word like that forever that's yeah no that's unreal that's what happened

59:46Big Cat:with me for a long time and it was on like all every single word that we mentioned today i've lost all ability to spell correct the first time because i've opted out of spell check i should have said leprechaun oh that's a good one we did that spelling the i spelled the wrong three times in a row leprechaun's a tough word about coco coco's a tough word c c-o-c-o-a yeah donnie

1:00:09PFT Commenter:Remember, Johnny fucked that up.

1:00:11Big Cat:What about fucking A, man? F-U-C-K-I-N-G-A-M-A-N. Yep. Yep. Capital A, maybe, and then comma after the end. Yeah, this isn't grammar. It's not punctuation.

1:00:27PFT Commenter:No, grammar's a different one. How do we think that went? That was kumbaya.

1:00:30Big Cat:Kumbaya. Great kumbaya.

1:00:31PFT Commenter:Very kumbaya. K-U-M-B-A-Y-A.

1:00:38Big Cat:K-U-M-B-A-Y-A.

1:00:40PFT Commenter:Yeah, Max is spelling a K-O-O-M-B-A-Y-I-E. What are you doing, Max? I spelled it wrong. Kumbaya. That was a good Mount Rushmore. Good topic, Hank. That was good. Good job.

1:00:57Big Cat:Someone emailed, actually, her name is Mackenzie. She just emailed me.

1:01:00PFT Commenter:That's a tough name to spell. So she probably is front of mind. Tough birthday to remember. Appreciate that, Mackenzie. Definitely send us some more Mount Rushmore topics. We'd love to hear all of them. Okay. it is real word by the way okay let's do hot seat cool throne check this out i got the american dew can right here because summer is coming and i can't wait to get in my backyard do some grilling play with my kids and drink some mountain dew nothing goes better than grilling with the boys than a mountain dew hanging with your friends that refreshing citrus kick of mountain dew mountain dew is proudly born in the foothills of tennessee enjoy the refreshing citrus kick of Mountain Dew, an American original.

1:01:40PFT Commenter:Grab a Dew. Tasting great since 48. Go get a Mountain Dew today. We love Mountain Dew. Thank you to Mountain Dew. The American Dew cans are incredible, so go get one and celebrate America. Tasting great since 48. Mountain Dew. Okay, Hank, your hot seat, cool throw up.

1:01:57Big Cat:My hot seat are just people that are anti-international football games because I think we can all agree this World Cup's been electric. the international support and people in America has been great, especially the Scotland faithful in Boston for the first couple games. So much so that Robert Kraft is now lobbying with the NFL to get a Patriots game in Scotland. So that's how successful this World Cup has been, is that despite the fact that there's already so many international games, NFL owners want more. Well, yeah, no doubt they want more. That's the whole thing. We know that the owners want more because it's about expanding how much money.

1:02:41Big Cat:But wouldn't you say that having an international, the most popular international sport being played in America has grown the game in America? Was that fair to say? Yeah, I think it's fair to say. So it kind of proves the point that having more international games, football internationally will grow the game of football, which is what we all want. No, because it would be like if it was – like in soccer, we're having an international tournament here. in foot in american football we're having two teams that both play football in the united states whose home cities pay tax money to get them to build new stadiums in those cities leave the entire country for a week and then they play football at a weird time zone a bunch of people that are weird time zone for these fans and then and then they come back to where the actual teams are based it's not like we're it's not like when we go over to scotland It's because we have a game against Aberdeen.

1:03:33Big Cat:It's because we're taking two teams from the United States and putting them in Scotland. You're also missing a key part of this is

1:03:40PFT Commenter:I don't give a fuck about the expansion of the NFL.

1:03:43Big Cat:Which is, that's just so messed up.

1:03:46PFT Commenter:No, it's really not. It's our sport. It should be played on our soil. It should be played on the times that we give. But the bigger football grows, the bigger this podcast grows. It's good for everyone. The fact that we're going to be playing a Super Bowl in London and you're going to just be having the best time of your life is going to make me sick.

1:04:02Big Cat:but the game will grow. And as a football diehard, that's what matters the most to me. Can you imagine how much golf Hank would play if the Patriots went over to Scotland for a week? It'd probably be bad weather. Depends when they play, I guess. It's always going to be bad weather.

1:04:20PFT Commenter:Depends on when they play.

1:04:21Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. And then my cool throne is the 2016 Cavs. They've been doing their reunion trip. And as much as I hated that team, as much as I don't like LeBron, it's been fun to watch. They've been... I feel like they've been doing it right. The 10-year anniversary content's been fun to watch. They've been on... It seems like they've been on a trip for a month.

1:04:44PFT Commenter:Yeah. Looks like a great time, though.

1:04:46Big Cat:But yeah, it's been fun to follow. Yeah. Dele showed up. What teams do you think should be allowed to do a 10-year anniversary trip? Should it be everyone? I mean, like the Cubs. Cubs, yeah. I feel like this year, that's going to be a big one.

1:04:58PFT Commenter:Rizzo and Ross's podcast is good. and they're doing a live show, I think, in a couple weeks here in Chicago. Yeah. There's definitely some teams. This one is definitely one of them. Like the 2016 Cavs, that was...

1:05:14Big Cat:Yeah, like I guess if the 2017 Warriors did it...

1:05:17PFT Commenter:Yeah, like the 2019 Raptors went to England to play golf for a week. I don't know. It'd be really weird. But maybe 29. 2026 Knicks could definitely do a 10-year anniversary.

1:05:28Big Cat:Yep. You have to be like a team of the decade, I think, in order to do that. Correct. I can see the Knicks pulling that off. Were the 2016 Cavs a team of that decade?

1:05:36PFT Commenter:No, because the Warriors won three titles. But they beat the team of the decade. They did beat the team of the decade.

1:05:42Big Cat:So the Knicks beating the Celtics last year, that could be them beating the team of the decade. Well, no, because that wasn't in the championship. That was pretty early on.

1:05:52PFT Commenter:And the Spurs could end up being the team of the decade. Yep. So the Knicks beat them. So they get to do it.

1:05:58Big Cat:It's true. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

1:06:01PFT Commenter:Okay. PFT?

1:06:03Big Cat:My hot seat is Geno Smith. Geno Smith's on the hot seat. The cop showed up at his place after, I guess, his girlfriend called 911, and she said on video he can't be left alone with, I guess she was referring to the child, he can't be left alone with Geno because he'd rather watch sex online and play Call of Duty about Geno Smith. So Geno Smith allegedly jacking off and playing video games all day, can't look after a kid and i i found out not from the part of my take twitter account which i maybe that was my mistake for thinking that's where i would learn this news from uh i found it elsewhere online so i didn't know if anyone had any more context to it

1:06:43PFT Commenter:wait you're saying our twitter account didn't report any of this didn't report any of it i was just thinking about the kids yeah yeah yeah in alleged situations you should probably think about the kids thinking always right kids right yeah so were you ever going to report it or Well, it was reported by what? Shannon Sharpe's burner account? Oh, okay. It's not like the Post. No, that's not. Yeah.

1:07:04Big Cat:Has anyone written about it? Yeah, I'm reading a pretty long article here. Mike Florio? TMZ.

1:07:10PFT Commenter:NFL and ESPN reported it. He's being investigated.

1:07:12Big Cat:Yeah, ESPN did too. Okay. Well, that was today. Right. That's what I'm reading about it.

1:07:18PFT Commenter:Yeah, but have we tweeted anything? No, I thought we weren't allowed. What? For alleged situations. That's actually, you can't say that to me. No, I don't.

1:07:30Big Cat:what's up memes are we allowed to tweet about alleged situations with side pieces oh i wouldn't know it's not about the side i was talking about jacking off and playing video games oh all right there's worse things to do in the world there are worse things to do agreed on that weekend agree memes all right that's why i thought the whole jacking off call of duty was it was funny well i think he just has a crazy ex-girlfriend it's a possibility for sure we're gonna let the facts come out i'll let the facts come out okay all right so i i look forward to the facts coming

1:08:00PFT Commenter:out about that we will all check out the facts when they come out uh and then my cool throne

1:08:06Big Cat:is cal pitts cal pitts just got an extension nice so he signed a three-year extension with the atlanta falcons um he's i think he's gonna be really good i'm all in on cal pitts right now i think well he's got he's six touchdowns six touchdowns he's going what for he got six last Last year, he got five last year. He got six this year, seven next year, eight the year after that. At the end of the year, he looks so good. Kyle Pitts is a beast. I'm fully back all in on Kyle Pitts. And then my other cool throw is the PGA Tour. Yeah, what's going on with that? So they got Tiger involved, and there's two distinct lanes now for golfers, which is, I guess that's why they want a Tiger in charge of everything.

1:08:45Big Cat:Yep. Rumble strip in the middle? No rumble strip. Okay. So you can go back and forth between the two lanes. Got it. You can even straddle the two lanes. Got it. Which is what, yeah, Tiger is the expert on this. So he talked about it a little bit today. And I guess there's going to be relegation. Right now they got the Corn Fairy Tour and the PGA Tour. What they're going to do from what I've read is they're going to make a limited field like 75 or so. 120. Huh? It's 120. Oh, for the main tournaments? All right, so it's a limited field for the main tournaments. And then there's kind of like an underfield for every other tournament.

1:09:20Big Cat:so for the big ones with the giant purses it limits it to just the top i guess hank said 120 and then everybody else that's what it is currently right the signature events now are 75 person field with no cuts they're doing away with that but there's going to be basically like 120 people in the main tour like i think it's the champions tour and then there's going to be a 120 person field in the challengers tour and still the corn fairy tour so like right there's no sponsors exemptions so like right now like a lot of these events like people that aren't in the top you know 120 can still get into these tournaments by sponsors exemptions no more sponsors exemptions you have to be in the top 120 if you're not in the top 120 you can you know play your way in mid-season through the challengers tour right so they made two divisions out of the out of the top.

1:10:14Big Cat:It's like a minor, it's more than, it's like baseball now where there's multiple minor leagues and not just like Corn Fairy Tour at the end of the year you can earn your PGA Tour card. There's more of a, you can, if you're in that, you know, 100 to 140 range, you can kind of bounce back and forth. Yeah, if you're in the PGA Tour range, you can stay in there, just not get to the main tournament with the giant purses. They also did like, which I appreciated, I don't, we'll see how it goes, they did like a future us the tour championship they just said they want to host them at like top five courses like pine valley cypress point like they said they want to try and do that but there's probably no chance they're going to be able right but they're like yeah in the future right now the the championships play to like east lake and atlanta but going forward we're going to try and do like pine like they just they just kind of threw it out there yeah okay they also said that i think towards the end they're going to do match play to see who wins at the end of the year yeah or like there's gonna be a match play championship in addition yeah there will be match play involved in in the format at the end of each season just explain to me again in three years two years two years i think next year 2028 i thought it might be next year oh okay explain to me again next year

1:11:30PFT Commenter:oh 2028 okay yeah so i got a couple years two years yeah then i'll then i'll get ready for it um okay my hot seat i've got two uh the first is brendan soresby because they're not doing a supplemental draft for uh the nfl and that means brendan soresby is not playing football this year or no can he be he can't be signed as a free agent can he go back to texas tech i don't know no i think they've pretty much it was understood that he's not going to play college football next

1:11:59Big Cat:Can he play in the CFL or the UFL?

1:12:04PFT Commenter:That's crazy. I feel like he's gotten the worst advice every step of the way.

1:12:11Big Cat:Yeah. I mean, I don't think that he thought that the NFL would just say, we're not going to do the draft.

1:12:16PFT Commenter:And I don't think any, he, he could have come out before all this stuff. So he probably got advice being like, it's not a big deal. And then he got the advice being like, Hey, we'll get a different judge and they'll say two games and everyone will be cool with it that was bad advice as well so brendan soarsby you're gonna have to wait a year

1:12:33Big Cat:yeah and also in the the letter that the nfl sent him it was pretty much like hey uh you waited too late i noticed that you uh you filed your application like three days before the deadline that's kind of cutting it close and you sought to avoid the consequences of that determination through litigation rather than accepting responsibility for your own actions that feels like the nfl just doesn't want him playing yeah it feels like it was just the teams got together and they're like, we have to try to take a stand against this? Yeah. If college football is not going to do anything about it? Yeah, they got him on technicality.

1:13:05Big Cat:But now it's like, will he be able to sue the NFL for keeping him out of the supplemental draft? I think that, I think Brendan Sorsby just needs to sue his way out of this.

1:13:14PFT Commenter:I think he just needs to, yeah, just be like, hey, you know what? I'm going to be in the courtroom. Keep filing lawsuits until you win. You're going to be on the field. I'll be in the courtroom. My other hot seat is Kent State football program. I don't know. This probably went under your guys' radar because he is a zero-star commit. But still, Toledo, the Toledo Rockets have gotten the commitment from Kenston Staten, a high school football player from Ohio. His name is Kent State. Damn. And Kent State didn't get him. That's tough. Kenston Staten.

1:13:49Big Cat:That's really, really hard. How do you not get it? Just the money that you might have gotten at Kent State in NIL.

1:13:57PFT Commenter:What do they screw up? It's his name, Kenston Staten. Did they not allow him in? No, he had a visit. He got an offer from Kent State. He turned him down. Jesus. Is that not insane?

1:14:09Big Cat:Yeah, that's tough. That's a tough break for that guy.

1:14:12PFT Commenter:I feel like he might. Look at this. Kenston Staten. Glass City. His nickname is Kent.

1:14:16Big Cat:His name is Kent Staten. I could see somebody doing this to their kid trying to get them a scholarship to LSU at one point. Yeah. Being like, yeah, I named my boy Tiger. Yeah. And then LSU being like, that's not going to work. This is tough, though, for Kent State. Come on.

1:14:31PFT Commenter:You got it. Kent State. You have to get, especially in your state. You have Kent State in your state. Kent State in your state. You don't get them.

1:14:39Big Cat:This is the worst day in Kent State history.

1:14:42PFT Commenter:Easily. All right. My cool throne is college basketball because Dusty May is going to the pros. And listen, I was making some jokes. I was trying to help out our good friend Dave because it's brutal that he lost his coach. I was thinking about any way we could keep Dusty May. That was obviously facetious. Dusty May is an awesome coach, and I'm happy he's out of the Big Ten, and I'm happy he's out of college basketball because he probably would have kept dominating. And he's had one of the craziest rises in all of coaching history. The fact that it was FAU three years ago, and now he's the head coach of the Dallas Mavericks.

1:15:18PFT Commenter:After winning a national title at Michigan, I also did see that he had a summer camp on Monday, like right after. It was like Dusty May's coaching camp, and it was at the Chrysler. That's a tough day to be a camp counselor there.

1:15:36Big Cat:That would be tough, trying to explain what's going on. And then are they going to get an interim coach?

1:15:40PFT Commenter:Yeah, they do. They have, I think he was on staff, I believe it was Boynton from Oklahoma State. And look, I'm just going to say, all I'm going to say is Dusty May, great coach, and happy he's out of the conference. And it's in no way weird that Michigan keeps winning national titles and the coaches leave.

1:16:01Big Cat:What happens to all the guys that he got from the portal? I think they're staying. I think a lot of them are staying.

1:16:07PFT Commenter:Yeah, and there was an article going around about Dusty May talking about how he hated having to do the college basketball transfer portal and dealing with agents and stuff. I think Dusty May just always wanted to coach in the NBA. Remember we had this like two months ago? Remember he had the quote that he's like, I'm not interested in any other. It was when the UNC job was up. He said, I'm not interested in any other college basketball coaching jobs. He said college basketball, not NBA, not coaching, just college basketball. So, yeah, I think he was always going to do this. I'm a little shocked that it happened this fast, but he gets a chance to coach Cooper Flagg.

1:16:44PFT Commenter:Why wouldn't he take that chance?

1:16:45Big Cat:Yeah, I've just heard about how frustrated he's been with the transfer portal stuff to the point where he was – like he couldn't even count who was going to be on his team. He was getting frustrated dealing with agents. But now I guess he doesn't have to deal with agents as much. I guess now there's people whose full-time jobs are dealing with agents all the time. Yeah. And you've got more ironclad contracts. I guess that was a big reason for it. This is from, when is this from?

1:17:09PFT Commenter:This is from a couple months ago. I think it was the UNC job. Play it. He said he's not looking for any other college basketball jobs. Do you think that that was a, hmm, that's interesting. Why didn't he say all coaching jobs? Because he's going, I think he will be an NBA coach someday. Okay, so Johnny Fanta had it first. And I think that he wants to be an NBA coach someday. Yeah. He's a mastermind. Here's the thing. with the complaining about the agents and transfer portal stuff that I don't buy. You just won a national title with the dominant, dominant team that was built through the transfer portal.

1:17:43PFT Commenter:So you're like, oh, I hate this thing, but also I'm dominating with it. Yeah. So, okay. Just say you wanted to coach the NBA. You wanted to coach the NBA. You always wanted to coach in the NBA. It's probably a better life. You get paid probably more. Actually, I don't know. You might not get. I don't think you get paid more. That might not be true. but it's it's you know it's the guys are competitive they want to coach the top top level just say that not oh this this transfer portal and dealing with agents sucks also i'm really good at it and i could just keep doing it and dominating i mean also in the history of the

1:18:17Big Cat:nba in college but how many coaches have gone from college to the nba and have it be like super successful not a ton and they stay there brad stevens yeah do you think they made him say no

1:18:30PFT Commenter:Michigan yeah probably not yet they have they will they will right do you think the Mavericks made him say no maybe yeah they had to have Brad Stevens they did they did make John Shire say no

1:18:43Big Cat:they did he's he's staying at Duke Larry Brown Larry Brown probably the only one I can think that was like awesome in the NBA after coaching in college yeah I mean Billy Donovan did not with

1:18:56PFT Commenter:the bulls but with the thunder was i mean those are some good teams yeah um i'm trying to think

1:19:03Big Cat:it's just like it's not same thing with with uh with football it's not a surefire win for somebody like a really really good college coach to go coach in the nba but i do think that they're

1:19:12PFT Commenter:probably more prepared now than they used to be yeah yeah i mean it's the the leagues are very are very similar but yeah there's a there's also a lot of rick patino john calipari there's a lot of guys who it did not work out for when they went to the NBA and they realized oh shit this is a little different because yeah yeah I mean guys are gonna it's just different it's I they always you know they always talk about hey they're pros in college but they're really not still like they are but they aren't and now it's a different it's a different level so the Mavericks have the ninth

1:19:47Big Cat:overall pick tonight we've recording this before the draft happened that's going to be interesting and see how much of a say he has in the draft pick the day that they hire him. Well, he's got some of his guys. He does.

1:19:58PFT Commenter:He's got a bunch of his guys. Zach, finish us off. My hot seat this week is going to be Edmonton Oilers fans because they announced a new head coach, former Columbus Blue Jackets coach. It's going to be Mike Bob Babcock. Yeah. I'm just hearing some things that he might be a weird guy. Yeah, he's going through phones. He's putting eye clouds on projectors. He's got some past. You can't feel too good about that as far as, like, locker room culture. Yeah. He's a hard ass. Maybe a weirdo. Maybe everyone hates him.

1:20:33Big Cat:But, hey, he's coaching the Oilers now. I bet they got a superstar on that team, don't they?

1:20:39PFT Commenter:They do.

1:20:39Big Cat:Like a guy that probably wouldn't take too kindly to somebody going through their phone. Mm-hmm.

1:20:43PFT Commenter:Mm-hmm.

1:20:44Big Cat:Why do all these Photoshop's of you as a Tampa Bay Lightning player in here? Interesting. What does that mean? Interesting. would you guys go leave phone in the car or would you get a second hockey phone

1:20:54PFT Commenter:hockey phone if if mike babcock if mike babcock was now my new head coach i would definitely get a burner phone and just that would be the one i would show up to the facility every day and it would just be like it just like i just has mike babcock has he written a book like it'd be like you know the only browser thing is just open to buying his book it's open to kindle

1:21:17Big Cat:and just that's it. Or if you're looking to get a trade out of town, maybe you just have a bunch of photoshops of Mike Babcock on your phone. And then he puts him up on his projector. Yeah. That's not a bad move. I kind of like that move. And then he gets embarrassed. He's like, I got to trade this guy. Yeah, this is weird. This guy's got a lot of weird shit about me on his phone. Yeah. Okay, good hot seat. And my cool throwing this week is going to be cool throwing guys who don't like Floyd Mayweather because allegedly Floyd Mayweather may have scammed his last scam, gentlemen. Oh, no.

1:21:44PFT Commenter:He's out of scams? What happened? So he, a lot of times when Floyd runs into these money trouble, it's like a civil court or like some other kind of crimes he's able to like get done with lawyers. This time they're coming after him with felonies, boys. Oh, no. There's 18 months ago, he wrote a bad check to a jeweler New Year's Eve to get a watch for about$200 ,000. 18 months later, he's still not responding to them and they're coming after him. even though he's allegedly earned like 1.2 billion dollars throughout his career all right i'll say doing 20 years i'll say it i'm starting to you bring up a good point here zach i'm starting to think floyd manweather might not be a good guy might be a bad guy but he might have to pay for it this time though we're gonna we're gonna let more facts come out right memes gotta let all the facts every fact i will not i will not make a full assessment so every fact is out how do you how do you spend 1.2 billion dollars unfathomable i have no idea how is that possible like he his full-time job is just figuring out ways to spend money it's crazy i don't even know where you keep

1:22:52Big Cat:that kind of money to go to it to spend it let's just say uh he probably after taxes actually he doesn't strike me as a big tax guy either um let's say he made 800 million after the taxes that he did pay how do you spend 800 million dollars in what 20 years 25 years how long has he been active there's there's guys online like doing the math trying to figure out what his like ticket per month is and it's like roughly 3 million a month he's spending that's crazy just on like reoccurring mortgages car notes stuff like that yeah he's got to like he's got to rent the most expensive house in the world then he's selling those properties but then he has like jumbo loans on those property so he's selling them for less than what the loans are on yeah so then yeah not good up to 20 years if he's convicted of the the bad check for the ap is he crying in this interview

1:23:45PFT Commenter:he's crying oh i don't know that would be something about something else yeah all right uh good hot seat cool throne boys we got some great interviews we got wyndham clark and then captain america tim ream from the u.s men's national team so let's get to that kumbaya

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1:24:45PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. He is the U.S. Open champion, Wyndham Clark, fresh off of his victory on Sunday at Shinnecock. Wyndham first of all congratulations two time US Open champ that's some rarefied air that you've now entered into but I think the first question I was going to ask the most important one dude people fucking hate you geez why don't you just geez Louise that's harsh we don't hate you we don't hate you we had your back I mean, goodness. I, yeah, I don't know why they, I mean, I know I've done some things, but geez, hate's a strong word. Well, so we were hypothesizing on Monday's show.

1:25:36PFT Commenter:And I think that part of the reason why you had such a weird experience on Sunday, and it was totally out of control, well, actually it was in your control, is that you just had such a big lead. And, like, I know there's a lot of people that just want to see, they pay a lot of money to go to a golf event. They get to buy the Sunday ticket. They want to see fireworks. They want to see, you know, two guys really close to each other. I know it got a little tight, but I think that was part of it is just that you had such a big lead that people are like, well, we want to see some, you know, we want to see some good golf.

1:26:09PFT Commenter:So that wasn't your fault. Yeah. I mean, on Saturday, definitely. I mean, I'd miss a putt and people would say, yeah, like, yes, or give them a chance when, you know, whatever. So I definitely heard that part because, and I get that. Like, hey, if someone wins by, unless it's Tiger Woods, people want to see it close, right? Right. I get that part, but, you know, yelling for my ball to go in the bunkers. Yeah. Credit to you, man. I feel like that was such an incredible performance by you all weekend long where you were, you know, we had Max Homa on a Monday too. And he said that that shot you made on 16 on Saturday, that was a shot that was like Tiger-esque in the fact that you're not just trying to protect.

1:26:50PFT Commenter:to lead you're trying to go for the throat and you're trying to actually win this tournament and i think a lot of guys in your spot probably wouldn't have made that shot wouldn't have taken that shot did you have that mentality of like hey i know i'm up six strokes seven strokes but this is go time and we got to make sure that this is basically put to bed yeah i was trying oh i love it yeah we got the we're opening up some great i already got cheers cheers to the cheers to the

1:27:16Big Cat:u.s open incredible yes thank you la familia hmm that's good that's good um just a living life hey you got some red stuff i like that yeah oh yeah yeah we got the good stuff um yeah i was actually trying to get to uh i was trying to get to double digits honestly when on friday i really thought i could have gotten there and then saturday you know i made some mistakes to you It could have been a lower round. And my whole thing was instead of thinking about my lead, I was trying to get to a number and be like, okay, if I get to 10, 11, 12 under, it's going to be hard to catch. Unfortunately, it didn't happen.

1:27:54But I feel like that's what I was thinking on 16. Hey, I'm not just trying to keep the lead. I'm trying to extend this lead.

1:28:00Big Cat:Yeah. What were your thoughts when you got up to the ball on 16, when you saw the lie to the left of the fairway? Because that was a nasty hook. On Sunday, yeah. Yeah, nasty hook that you hit. and it was in the fescue. And I think Bones said, like, this is a terrible lie. This is horrendous, as bad as it gets. And then you walk up there, you're like, I think I can get a club on it. I think we can get up past that bunker. Like, what did you see when you saw that ball? Yeah, I mean, all week the lies have actually been not bad. Like, you walk up and you go, oh, no, I'm in the long grass. And then you get to the ball and you're like, okay, we're good.

1:28:32We can advance this. It might be a jumper or whatever. That one actually did look bad. The good thing that is I could get to the back of the ball. And for a golfer, as long as you can get to the ball first, you know you can advance it. And that's what I was able to do. Now, you know, maybe it was kind of a dumb shot in that moment. But I'm like, I really thought I could do it. And it was one of those decisions that maybe if it didn't work out, that would probably be one of my big regrets. But, you know, fortunately, I pulled it off and was able to make a birdie on that hole.

1:29:03PFT Commenter:Yeah, and your putter was incredible all weekend. I saw the scrambling stats. That was the gritty part of your win that I thought people need to give more credit to you. Did you have a feeling at any point during the tournament, you're like, oh, shit, this thing is hot. I'm dialed in on this putter because it felt like every single time that it was going to maybe dip, oh, he's got a 15-footer, you were just nails on those putts. Yeah, I mean, on those greens, it's really hard to feel like you're making a lot of putts. But I think relative to other people, I was, if that makes sense. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, my putter saved me by for sure.

1:29:40Save me. I mean, I, I chipped a lot close and give me, but I also had so many kind of five to 12 footers for par. And I was, you know, more often than not making it. And it's, it's huge when you make those from momentum, right? Like it just keeps it going. And you're like, okay, I'm good. I didn't give one up. I didn't give one up. And, and I, you know, the guys I played with would miss those and you could just see the momentum kind of turn against them and I was able to keep it you know going for me yeah and then after you

1:30:07Big Cat:win um there was that moment we got to see on tv where you saw your dad so we knew that your dad was there because the camera showed him like yeah he took the red eye in Wyndham doesn't know that he's at the tournament yet uh what was that like when you saw him for the first did you have any idea at all that he was going to be there no no my my dad hasn't made it to any tournament I've won And, you know, the first open I won, he wasn't there, which, you know, such a bummer. But this one, he, you know, he was and I was completely shocked. And I was also super excited because we got to share that moment, especially on Father's Day.

1:30:41You know, what better gift I could give my dad is is he's seen me through all the years and all the hard work and he's helped me get to where I'm at. So it was great to share it.

1:30:49PFT Commenter:And so we were talking about this as well. if you have a three-stroke lead does he take a red eye did you ask him that you're like hey dad thanks for coming but six strokes that's what that was the bar that you needed to get out on a flight yeah i mean i don't know i i'm just glad he was probably freaking out because he's like holy smokes i came and and he was at six six strokes ahead and now it's only one you know i didn't want him to think it was his fault so i'm glad i won yeah um but yeah i mean i think i think the six strokes made him feel confident okay my son can pull pull this off yeah did you going into it was a really cool moment and on father's day it was just awesome that he was able to surprise you like that going into sunday did you happen upon any of the stats they were throwing them out there that like i think it was 13 guys have been had that type of lead and the only one to blow it was greg norman had did you did any of those like reach your brain no i i honestly i I turned off like any social media.

1:31:49I was almost not even texting friends and family. Like I, whoever I was with in the house that I was staying with, that's all we did. I didn't really look at my phone. I had a million text messages and just didn't look, you know, I figured nothing's going to really benefit me. That's smart. I didn't know.

1:32:07PFT Commenter:You don't have one friend. Cause I, I would unfortunately be that friend who'd be like, Hey, I saw this, that on like Saturday night, you don't have one guy like that. That's a good group of friends. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I probably did. I haven't gone through all my text messages. But, yeah, I have friends like that that point out, like, hey, you almost blew the biggest lead ever. So, yeah, that's why I didn't look because I do have friends like that.

1:32:32Big Cat:Yeah, that's smart. What would you say to the haters out there, not us, but the haters that are out there that say, congrats on winning your first U.S. Open because L.A. Country Club was Mickey Mouse. No, it wasn't. It wasn't.

1:32:45PFT Commenter:This is what this is. Wyndham, this is like the level of some like we enjoyed it so much because watching people melt down online about you winning was so funny to us. That was a real thing, like being like, yeah, he wanted LACC and we didn't like that course. So that didn't really count. Yeah, well, it counted to me. I will say the validation of like, hey, sometimes you can win one and people think, oh, that's a fluke. That was a fluke thing. Winning two, I don't know if you can really say it's a fluke, especially on this golf course going against a really heavy top leaderboard with some of the best players in the world.

1:33:25Big Cat:Yeah, that's a really good answer. In fact, good process. Good process. Good process on that answer. Really good process. I actually got my caddy in the room. He was yelling process, process, process. Can you tell us about the process? Like what makes a good process? Well, first off, having a process is a good start. And then, you know, for me, if we're getting into the, you know, the details on it, it's all about like my routine, taking a breath, making sure I'm 100 percent confident and assertive on the shot we're about to hit. Pick my secondary target, look up kind of same amount of looks and then really no clutter and just pull the trigger and hit the shot.

1:34:04Big Cat:Yeah, that's a good process. Yeah, what about the process on the step-off on the back nine? Yeah. Because we talked to Max about that, too. He said maybe he had to fart. Sometimes he's stepped off when he's got to release a little toot, and then he stepped back in. So what was that process like? When I've had to fart, I maybe just stay behind a little bit or ask Dave, like, hey, is it for sure 7-iron? And when I know it's 7-iron, he's like, yeah, it's 7-iron, and that's when you're letting one out. But when I back off, it's because I'm not – my mind is, like, thinking about the grape. I'm going to open up rather than, Hey, it's left edge.

1:34:36I got to start this online or whatever. So I back people think like, Oh, it's nervous. It's like my mind wasn't where I needed it to be back off, come in. Like, you know, I'm sure I missed maybe a couple of those, but I also made more ones than I missed when I did back off. Cause it's simply just like hit it when you're ready.

1:34:54PFT Commenter:Yeah. So speaking of process, it was cool. Cause like you were on Sunday, we got to hear more about you and like everyone on your team and we heard about your sports psychologist now i have a problem with her because i think she should have had to stay out there and listen to the gallery she went inside she said did you talk to her after being like hey you're you got to be a foxhole person like you got to be out there maybe even just saying like hey stay in the fairway after you hit a shot or something like that kind of reversing it i definitely needed her saying stay in the fairway because i could not find one all day um yeah maybe next time i'll tell her to put on some boxing gloves and go around and yeah people out or something yeah what was it what was the meanest thing that was said to you was it just like get in the bunker and when they were cheering when the ball would like i mean there was a lot of stuff i mean a lot of people telling me that i'm gonna choke a lot of people saying no one likes you um you know the tears when they would roll off the green they would you know that was some of the craziest stuff i knew when i hit good shot was because they were quiet and then when i hit a bad shot it was like you know it's like i just made a 30 footer for birdie they were all clapping like yeah and you know so things like that there's a handful of people that got kicked out yeah i mean there was some stuff people saying obviously the locker stuff um you know anytime i missed a putt people were like oh bad day to be a locker or you know don't let him in the locker room you know just constant chirps but whatever Listen, I honestly think the best PR that you were given is the fact that people were so weird to you on Sunday and you didn't react.

1:36:33PFT Commenter:You were just nails. You were basically playing a Ryder Cup by yourself. And your ability to stay in the moment and not react and not let anything bother you. I don't know how anyone, however you feel about Wyndham, I don't know how you can't walk away from that being like, Like that was impressive what he just accomplished in the face of all that shit. Yeah, I mean, thank you for saying that. I appreciate it. Believe me, I wanted to. Anytime I made a putt, I wanted to like point at them, do something. But I'm like, okay, it's not a Ryder Cup. They already don't like me. Let's not make them hate me even more.

1:37:08So I didn't do it. I'd say the one time I really kind of showed emotion was on 16 when I made that putt. And it's funny. I mean, I made it. I yelled, you know, and no one else did. Yeah. Like, five people were like, yeah, and it sounded like it was, you know, from the rafters. You could barely hear it.

1:37:27Big Cat:Yeah. Hank, do you have any questions for Wyndham? Yeah. Golfers, different golfers have different stances on this. How aware of you, how aware were you of the leaderboard on Sunday? Like, were you checking it or were you just focused on your game? Like, did you know you were only up one, you know, with three holes to go? I didn't really look to the back nine. And then my caddy Dave was we made a par or something on I think it was 13, 12 or 13. And he goes, do you want it or 12? He goes, do you want to know or do you whatever? And I go, hell yeah, I want to know. Like it's now, hey, we're playing against against Sam.

1:38:04And like we got to figure out where we're at. And so kind of right around 12, he's like, hey, we got a three shot lead. Of course, I bow you the next hole. So then it goes to two. But yeah, I knew the last six, seven holes. I was looking quite a bit because I wanted to know, like, okay, if he's making birdies maybe or gets the tie or whatever, like I need to be more aggressive and try to make birdies as well. Or, hey, he made a bogey or a double. Like, hey, we're playing very conservative. We're not going to take any unnecessary risks.

1:38:34Big Cat:Yeah. Do you hear the roars and try and, like, determine what the roars are for or you're not even worried about, like, what the possible cheers are? or the only thing was on 16 um we knew uh sam was on 18 and so we both like we heard something and he got um we were walking and dave was like hey that was on 16 green he's already through and so then as we were walking and we didn't really hear any roars on 18 we assumed like okay he made par and then when we got to 16 or finished 16 i looked and i was like okay so he's done he posted at three We have a two-shot lead. So, yeah, those last three holes I definitely knew exactly where I was.

1:39:15Big Cat:Yeah. What was it like in the clubhouse with Scotty right after you won? Because the cameras showed you guys walk in there together, and it was his birthday. That was kind of like a funny twist to the entire day too. It was like the crowd was rooting against you, and they were literally singing happy birthday to Scotty Scheffler for the entire round. What did he say to you when you guys got into the clubhouse afterwards? Yeah, I mean, Scotty is a killer, man. And like, we didn't talk much during the round. We're, we're buddies. We've obviously been on Ryder cup and presence cup together. We played practice rounds, played a lot of competitive rounds against each other.

1:39:49But when we get inside the ropes, we're both killers. Like we, we want to beat each other. And so there was not much talking during the round afterwards. He gave me praise and was like, Hey man, that was amazing. And you know, and then he was back to his normal self in the clubhouse. And I really applaud and appreciate what he said in the, in the presser. And so, yeah, I mean, nothing but respect for that guy. And, you know, I know people wanted him to win the Grand Slam, and he's going to. I mean, he's so incredible and just not – it wasn't his weekend. Yeah.

1:40:20PFT Commenter:What was it like on Thursday when the wind dies down and you're literally the only person playing? Was that weird? Yeah. I mean, we got very lucky. Let's just say that. I mean, going into Thursday, I was like, oh, my God, we're going to have all the wind. Like this is a bad draw to our fog delay. And then I look, I'm like, Oh, the wind's going to die down. And it did. And next, you know, our group, we had a bad-ass group. I mean, DJ and Gary, we were with the bros that are both homies. We all started making tweets left and right. And we just kind of fed off of each other. And we were at six, four and three, you know, we were kind of all leading the tournament.

1:40:58So the vibes were high the first two days for sure. Yeah.

1:41:00Big Cat:I love that phrase. How come I've never heard? We just start making tweets. Yeah. hey i got phrases left and right great tweets i like that so let me know get out there and make some tweets yeah that was the other that was the other asterisk everyone tried to throw on

1:41:14PFT Commenter:on this one is that you were somehow the only person who played with with no wind on thursday it's like half the field was still playing and then you also had the third best round i think on saturday so people are people you you have people in fits right now it's got to feel kind of awesome hey haters are gonna hate what i mean geez unless i just play absolutely flawless i have the worst draw and whatever then people might finally give me some validation but hey you know what a dub's a dub doesn't matter if you get a good draw a bad draw yeah have you thought about the other the other pr thing i was thrown out there on mondays have you thought about maybe going by your middle name because we think maybe there's something about windham that that pisses people off and if you went by Bobby if you're Bobby Clark you might have had some people rooting for you on Sunday yeah I've never thought of that I don't know how you come up with these questions that's it's uh that's a nice question you know I don't Bobby Clark doesn't have quite the ring that uh Wyndham Clark has but if next time I come to New York I'll have maybe a little different I'll be Bobby Clark yeah yeah we're just thinking Robert Clark Wyndham is a it's a timeshare company

1:42:21Big Cat:So people may be in the back of their head. They're like, I can't stand this guy. Got me locked in 40 years. Crazy interest rate. I get it, actually. Timeshares can be tough. I mean, I feel like timeshares never work out. So, yeah, I get it. Robert Clark just sounds like your regular dude. Yeah. Oh, who's this? Who's this, Larry? I mean, the other piece of PR advice we'd have for you is just when the presidents come. Like, if you go out there and you represent the United States, you dominate. Guess what? Everyone's going to be rooting for you. well I thought the jersey thing would make the New Yorkers love me like New York loves USA I wore USA jersey in Canada Jack Hughes like I thought that would be like oh you know what we're Wyndham fans but somehow that just you know went through the cracks I guess they didn't care yeah the long they might not necessarily be the biggest readers of the newspaper so they might not that might not

1:43:13PFT Commenter:come the next one yeah they were worried about the next yeah they had other stuff going on yeah Yeah, that was all happening. Yeah, I get it. I get it. Well, no one reads the newspaper anymore, so that's probably part of the problem. Yeah. Has the check cleared yet? The check, the money is good. The USGA is good for it. Did you do the swipe up on your bank account just to see it hit? Yeah, it's kind of nice. Yeah, it's got to be awesome. Are you playing this next weekend? Nice seeing those zeros. Yeah. Hey, man, come on. I got to make a living. Yeah. And, you know, I want to make the President's Cup team.

1:43:47It's not far. It's in Connecticut. They gave me my first sponsor invite. So, you know, I love that place. So I got to go with that.

1:43:55PFT Commenter:Did you know how much you guys think about when you win something like the U.S. Open that you now are qualified for the U.S. Open for a decade? So you actually, the next time it's at Shinnecock, that's when your eligibility runs out. Does that ever, like, come across your brain where you're like, oh, this is kind of cool. Like, no matter what, I'm still playing in the U.S. Open for the next 10 years. Yeah, it's great. once a year I have max stress for, you know, let's just plan for it. Yeah. It is nice because I started trying to qualify for the U.S. Open at like 14. Oh, wow. So I didn't make my first U.S.

1:44:30Open until maybe I was 26 or 7. So 13 years I tried and didn't make it. So it's now amazing to be like, hey, at least for 10 more years, I don't have to go qualify for this thing. So it's a huge perk.

1:44:45Big Cat:Yeah, that's really great. And would you say that the Travelers is the fifth major? Or what's the fifth major in your book? You know what? For them, I'll give them a little plug. Hopefully I get a sponsorship. Travelers, fifth major. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Sounded like you really meant that one.

1:44:58PFT Commenter:Did you open up some grape out of the trophy? Or was that just beer in the trophy? Oh, everything was in there. I don't do champagne. Last time I did champagne. I don't know if you heard my interview with Rappaport. But I did champagne. I threw up the next day. I had to go to the hospital. so there was champagne in it and i let everyone else drink it but initially it's beer because it's like okay we're gonna pass this thing around it's a little easier to chug beer than wine but eventually later in the night it was just we poured bottles in there and we were just you know that's this is the ultimate glass right it is it is um all right i got one last question by the way speaking of uh another classy move by windham for people who are on the fence like hey should i root for this guy you should root for him i watched the video the guy who engraved the trophy windham had him drink out of it first that was he was like you you you have to start this and then he got to drink out of it first and then windham did it so that's a good bobby clark move like that's a solid bobby clark move uh well i gotta tell you there's a background to this so in 23 there was a lady we're like how long have you done this she um you know engraved it she He goes, I've done this like 20 years or whatever.

1:46:09And we go, have you ever drank out of it? She goes, no, never. And I go, well, today's the day. So she was the first one. Then we had a different guy this time ask him the same thing. He's like, no, I've never done it. I said, well, this is the Clark tradition. This is what we do. So he drank out of it. He was like, you know, to the moon. He was so happy. You want to take pictures. So I think it's a cool thing. I mean, the guy's putting my name in the history of this trophy. You might as well let him enjoy it.

1:46:34PFT Commenter:It was very, very cool. I love that video. All right. Last question. Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. Promo code take 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback dot com. Promo code take. Zach, you got one for us? How are you doing today, sir? Quick question. What would you say? How many hot dogs would you say you eat on average during an average round of golf? Me? Yeah. I mean, I don't ever eat hot dogs. You know, so never. I mean, but one, maybe. Okay. Do you have follow-up, Zach? How many do you eat? Me? I would probably say average of two. Average of two?

1:47:14Okay. Well, I'm an athlete. We try not to eat processed meats. And while we're playing, that could put me in a little bit of a food coma. But great, hard-hidden question. Yeah.

1:47:26PFT Commenter:Good question, Zach. I'll do a follow-up. I was curious if I could just take you back to December 3rd, 2016. You said haters going to hate on Twitter earlier in this interview. You did tweet, I hate Baker Mayfield, and I was just curious if you still feel that way. Maybe your thoughts on that. Maybe that hate in your heart has gone away. Maybe where are you at on that? I'm trying to decide if I should tell the story. Yeah. All right, screw it. I don't care. People already hate me. So, no, it's not that bad. My PR team's here. Listen, your PR team's on the hot seat because we're coming up with ideas they never thought of.

1:48:04No, they didn't. They prepped me for everything. They didn't prep me for this one. My girlfriend at the time cheated on me with Baker Mayfield. That's a fair tweet. Okay, yeah. But here's what I want to say. As I've – that one's done. As I have come to – like I'm actually a Baker fan now. I think he's a homie. I – you know, that's your initial response. Like screw that guy, but really screw the – Yeah, yeah, your girlfriend, yeah. But, yeah, so I'm a Baker fan now. But, you know, that's where it came from.

1:48:36PFT Commenter:That's a totally – we were trying to figure it out. We're like, oh, well, Oklahoma State, there's natural hate there. No, this is – that's a totally fair tweet. This is personal. I hope actually this is a bro moment for us to be like, oh, bro, I didn't know. My bad. She never told me. And I'm like, oh, it's all good. We're homies. Let's play golf. Like, that's where I think this comes from. We're good friends with Baker. We can get that. We can connect this. We can bury the hatchet. We can talk about it. We can, like, hey, man, like, yeah, that was great. Yeah. We can talk about it.

1:49:04Big Cat:Yeah, I think this is actually perfect. It's like, yeah, you know, in the time I was upset, but as we move on, we realize that things are more complicated. He probably didn't mean anything by it. So we learn, we grow, we move on. That's a beautiful moment. Yeah, it's a bro moment that we're going to pull out. I can feel it coming. Yeah.

1:49:20PFT Commenter:Okay, perfect. All right, well, Wyndham, you know, we were being accused of liking you too much because you were on the show, but we do like you. So we're rooting for you. And congrats again. incredible, incredible tournament for the US Open and cheers to two and many, many more opening up the grape, nothing like grape at 10 o 'clock in the morning where we are I know, we're both alcoholics but hey, it's great Alright, thanks William Alright, cheers Here's to many more tweets Okay, before we get to Tim Ream Lucy, Lucy's the obvious choice for true nicotine pouch connoisseurs That's why they're the official nicotine pouch partner of Barstool Sports.

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1:50:48Big Cat:And before we get to U.S. men's national team, Captain Tim Rehm, he's brought to you by Jose Cuervo. When Cuervo enters, every moment just gets better. You find yourself in the center of the dance floor. You can't help but stand up and high-five those around you at the game. The room reacts like it just got the same text at the same time, and you stop checking the time. There have been a lot of Cuervo moments, I would say, this World Cup so far. When the referee blows his whistle, gives you a yellow card, and then goes to VAR, and it's mistaken identity, and he gives a yellow card to somebody else.

1:51:17Big Cat:That's a Cuervo moment. When you force an own goal, that's a Cuervo moment. It's the Cuervo effect. Everyone understands it. It's a moment anyone can join and a good time that just grows. All you have to do is keep it Cuervo. And now here is Captain America, Tim Rehm.

1:51:33PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is Captain America, Tim Rehm from the U.S. Men's National Team. Tim, thank you for joining us. Let's just start right now. Are we the best at soccer? I feel like we're the best at soccer now. Yeah, I mean, we're the best. since we call it soccer. Yeah, we're the best. Why not? Okay. Let's go with that.

1:51:57Big Cat:Yeah. It's like us and Australia. In New Zealand, they call it soccer. We just beat Australia, so therefore we're the best at soccer. I think I saw somewhere that they were the title holders of some sort, and then we beat them, so therefore we are the title holders as well. We've taken over that distinction. Yeah, print the shirts. We're the best at soccer. A rivalry trophy game that we didn't even know that we were playing in until after we won. Yeah. Okay. Exactly. That's great. It's been awesome to watch this team. And I've been my entire life following international soccer at this level. And seeing the style of play that we have now from the United States is so much fun to watch.

1:52:39Big Cat:And it seems very different from the way that we've kind of organized our teams in the past. And the evolution since we've gotten a new coach in here, that's also been fascinating to watch. What was the point that you realized that what we're building could actually translate into a highly successful formula for the U.S. team with new coaching staff? Honestly, I think it was last summer. We played in our regional tournament, the Gold Cup, obviously. And just all the way the group gelled together on and off the field, the demands that the coaching staff are putting on us, Um, it makes it hard, but it's, it's like, it's a fun, hard, like people, people say, oh, there's, there's, you know, what are you doing?

1:53:25Why does it make it so hard? Just the amount of work that we're going through. But, you know, to, to your point, you're absolutely right. Like the, the evolution of where we were to where we are now and, and how aggressive we are, um, is so very different to, to anything that, that we've ever experienced with the national team. And we're having fun doing it. I think that's the biggest thing is how much fun it is to do it and connect with the fans around the country.

1:53:51PFT Commenter:Can you tell a vibe shift on this specific team? Because you've been part of the U.S. Men's National Program for a very long time, played in the World Cup four years ago. Does it feel a little different in terms of just the confidence going into each game? Yeah, huge, huge difference. I mean, just looking at guys, I can see what kind of mood they're in and what kind of vibes that they're feeling and how confident everybody is. It's cliche, right? But it starts in training. You watch the guys put in the amount of effort and work that they put in every single day in training, and that translates.

1:54:31Sometimes our trainings are harder than games. That's how hard we train. And you can feel that going into the match days and how calm everybody is, but how focused and how ready and confident everybody is when that first whistle blows.

1:54:48Big Cat:Yeah, one thing that we've been pretty good at in the first two games is forcing our opponents to score on their own goal. And we've gotten back to back with that. Is that something that's practiced? I mean, obviously you can't like kick a ball, aim for another guy's foot. But the concept of just like dumping balls across the goal line, putting defenses in stressful positions like that, is that something that's been like a point of emphasis or worked with for you guys? Yeah. I mean, listen, we always talk about getting on top of teams and being aggressive and being on what we call on the front foot, right, where you're just attacking and you're attacking over and over and over again.

1:55:26And that puts tremendous amount of pressure on anybody, right? All of a sudden they feel like they can't put one foot wrong. They can't step the wrong way or else look what happens. Two games, two own goals. I don't know that it's ever been done before in a World Cup. But it creates this feeling of we're in for a tough, tough day. The first couple of minutes and your defenders are leaning back instead of being aggressive and acting instead of reacting. So it's definitely something that we've talked about, starting games quick, getting the better of the opponents from early, early on. Yeah.

1:56:12PFT Commenter:So when you were named captain of the U.S. team, Pochettino said that doesn't guarantee a starting spot for you, but you mean more in the locker room and for the entire vibe of the team. That's where your value is. Was that a sneaky diss? How did you take that?

1:56:31Honestly, no, definitely not a sneaky diss. I think it was more of a sneaky challenge than anything. But you know what? I'm fully on board with that sentiment and what that message is, right? That is consistent with everything that he's always said since the day he stepped foot through the door, is that nobody is guaranteed to be on this team. Nobody is guaranteed to start. Nobody's guaranteed to be playing minutes. And it's down to us as players to, you know, to take that message on board and, you know, work, you know, work as hard as you possibly can every day. And even then, that's that might not be, you know, enough to get minutes.

1:57:10So I don't see it as a diss. Like I said, I take all messages as a challenge. And you either overcome that challenge or you accept where your role is. But him and I have a great relationship, as he does with all the players. And so, obviously, a huge honor to be a captain. And then it's just down to me to put in the work to make sure that I'm on the field.

1:57:38PFT Commenter:I just realized he made a great choice in making you captain because that was probably a test. And like a person like me would take that as a sneaky diss. And that's why I should never be a captain. Wait, what the fuck? I'm not starting because I'm the captain. You saw it as a challenge. That means you're a perfect captain and a guy who can help bring everyone together. Yeah, I don't know about perfect captain. You know what? I'm not doing this all by myself. I'll tell you that. There's a lot of guys in this group who I lean on just as much as they lean on me. I like to think of myself as just somebody who's part of a machine, a cog in a machine, and just doing my role and playing my part and helping the group in any way that I can.

1:58:23But like I said, it's such a unique position. There's only been two home World Cups for the U.S., and I have the opportunity, and I've been given the armband as only the second home World Cup captain for the U.S. So it's a very, very special and unique position to be in.

1:58:42Big Cat:Are they going to give you a break on Thursday? Do you want a break on Thursday? You know what? I'm comfortable either way. Whether I play or not is, again, it's not totally up to me. I love playing games. I love playing minutes. I love being a part of the team. And as you alluded to before, I've been around a long time. I've played a lot of games. And I know that this is my last World Cup realistically. So I want to play as many games as I possibly can. So we'll see. I don't need a break. But if they want to give me one, then obviously it's somebody else's opportunity to go in there and do their thing.

1:59:23PFT Commenter:Has that been a point of conversation leading up to this third game? where, like, we were talking about it, the fact that they changed the rules in terms of it's now head-to-head and not goal differential. It's got to be a little weird. You have all this momentum. How do you guys keep that edge and that momentum when you're like, ultimately this game doesn't actually matter? Well, that actually goes back to what I mentioned before, is that the training sessions, right? And every guy in this squad, in this team, are deserving of playing minutes, right? And because we've done so well, there is an opportunity, whether it's used or not, to give guys minutes that could potentially make us a better team going into the knockout rounds.

2:00:10So we'll see. Like I said, guys are working hard. Everybody deserves to play, and it's just a matter of picking an 11 to go out there and do it. I don't think it's going to change the momentum either way because everybody's so hungry. Everybody wants to contribute. Everybody wants to be a part of this special feeling and this wave that we're riding and the momentum that we have. So it is unique because of, as you said, the rule changes. You know, you can almost, you know, with the yellow card, the guys who are on yellow cards who, you know, if they get another one, they'll miss the knockout rounds.

2:00:44That's a consideration you have to take into account. So we'll see. We'll see what happens come Thursday.

2:00:50Big Cat:there yeah and also you're the first guy uh to to get off on the mistaken identity yellow card yeah it's paraguay that's crazy that they mistook you they were like oh you look so much like the forward from paraguay we accidentally gave it to the wrong guy crazy right i look exactly like almarone yeah i never knew that i i speak the same language as well yeah no it was it was weird because like definitely definitely not i feel like you you you successfully argued your way into a changed yellow card which has never happened before well i made history yeah yeah Yeah. First, first one ever. I, I, I mean, I knew right away, right.

2:01:24I, I, I put my hand up and gave him the old finger wag and said, no, not a chance. Didn't, didn't actually happen, but yeah, making, making history left, right and center for, for this group. Why not?

2:01:35PFT Commenter:Have you guys practiced not putting your hands over your face when talking? Because that's also crazy in this world cup that we've gotten that as a, you know, if you, if you, if you do the, it's almost like the NFL coaches who have their play sheet in front of them. You're not allowed to do that. Is that a point of emphasis? Actually, you know what? We had a pre-World Cup meeting where we discussed this, right? And FIFA, we did a call with them and they said, you know, these are the rule changes. This is going to happen if you do that. We were watching that game when it happened and everybody was in total shock.

2:02:12And I think it really hit home that yes, they are going to enforce this. And we, you know, I think there was like five, six, seven of us had a, had a kind of a group, a group chat yesterday after training, talking about different scenarios where we think they would give you a red card or maybe they'd be lenient. And we were just like, yeah, you know what? We're, we're just not, don't even, don't even like act like you're like wiping your nose or anything. You just go, you got to go all kinds of different ways instead of putting the hand over.

2:02:39Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. Or like put your hands behind your back. Like I'm not hitting you. I'm not saying anything bad. I can't even cover my mouth. Yeah. I mean, can someone else walk up to you and help you wipe your face off? I don't know. Yeah, we're going to come up with all sorts of different things. Yeah, you get Joe Scali to walk over, put his hand in front of your mouth, and then you can say whatever you want. Is that a red card? I don't know. I guess we'll find out. Actually, maybe we shouldn't.

2:03:02PFT Commenter:Probably not. Yeah. It also feels kind of offensive towards Italians who talk with their hands. And, like, if their hands are flying everywhere, you might have a problem. Yeah, demonstrative, right? They use their arms and they wear their emotions, right? But good thing the Italians aren't here, so it doesn't really matter. Yeah, they would have all gotten red cards, so it would have been a mess.

2:03:23Big Cat:I love your coach. We love Pochettino and everything that he's kind of instilled in this team. The counter-pressing, the aggressiveness that we play with has been awesome to watch. I was reading about him when we first made the hire, and I was reading about how he believes in universal energy and how he believes that like whatever energy you put into things actually like physically can transform stuff i didn't know if you had any stories about that or conversations that you've had with him or examples that you've seen of of some of this uh some of this belief that he has but whatever it is it's working Man, you've done your homework, huh?

2:03:59Big Cat:I mean, I read about the guy. I love U.S. soccer. I don't give a shit about the EPL. I don't care about any of the professional leagues, but I love U.S. soccer. So yeah, when we hired him, I was like, okay, I want to know everything about the guy. That's awesome. No, you know what? He is a very positive person. He is, you know, obviously as a coach, you have to, you know, give criticism and you have to get on to guys and push them in certain ways. But his whole thing is about connection. His whole thing is about connecting with each individual player and the players connecting with each other and having this, yeah, this kind of aura and vibe around the team of togetherness and communication.

2:04:45So that's just the way he operates. And it's with every single player, not just a handful of guys. Every single staff member he has that connection with. And the other part is he always has – there's this thing with lemons. He always has a bowl of lemons on his desk. I think that's part of that, you know, that, that what, what you're talking about. You know, he feels like that, that brings kind of a good, a good vibe to the, to the room and good energy, but he's all about energy. He's all about projecting energy, good energy in, in all moments, because he does feel that that is the best way to move forward and the best way to get the best out of everybody.

2:05:31PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. He's the best. Tim, we can be honest with each other here. The hydration breaks. Come on. yeah are you you guys don't like them no i mean i'm fine with listen we're american sports fans quarters make sense to us i do think it's crazy they keep the clock running like just just stop the clock and and we're not playing like it's nuts yeah yeah i mean listen it's it's you know people the the purists are probably you know rolling over saying you know what what are we doing here what what is this and everybody says oh it's it's you know it's the u.s well no that this is a FIFA thing, right?

2:06:05It's, it's also, it's hot in some places and not in others. I get that. But for competition fairness, you got to give it, you know, every game has to have the same, the same rules. So it's funny you say about the clock stopping though. It is interesting that you say this because that is another conversation that the players, you know, ourselves had it, I think dinner the other night was like, why can't we just stop the clock in that moment? What is it going to change by stopping it for the three minutes and them keeping track of the time? I'm with you on that one. I don't understand that. But, I mean, here we are, right?

2:06:44We're just out there kicking a ball, running around, and sweating our tails off to get a ball in the back of the net.

2:06:52PFT Commenter:Yeah, and listen, I get it for injuries and stuff like that. It's kind of weird if you had to stop the clock every time someone goes down. but it's when guys are literally standing on the sideline and we go to commercial break how how hydrated are you getting during the hydration breaks are you really taking them seriously oh yeah you have to okay good sure yeah you definitely seriously huh orange slices oreos anything like that there's the gel packs and and you know carb carb packs and yeah there's there's a bunch of different stuff that the but no orange slices i've not seen orange slices yet But again, that's just in our little huddle.

2:07:29But I'm with you. You go to commercial break, and that's also another point of contention. I get that. But and you leave it, whatever it is, 22, 30, and you come back and all the fans and people are looking at the TV saying, wait, where'd those three minutes go? Now it's 25. What are we doing here? So yeah, I feel you on that one. Just stop the clock. It's a pretty simple solution.

2:07:55Big Cat:Yeah. Have you thought about putting your fours up? I've been putting my fours up during the hydration break in the second half. Let people know fourth quarter starts now. Yeah. I haven't yet. No, that's actually, it might be a go. Maybe I'll tell the boys after, you know, during this next game, when we step out after the hydration break, everyone just walk out with, you know, their hands up in the air with the four. Put your fours up. That's a good shot. Yeah. Remind everybody. This is the last that you've got to give. Yeah. A little headline grab on my part here. I'll say it if you don't want to say it.

2:08:25Big Cat:But fuck you, Tim Howard. Why did you have to say that we can't win the World Cup? Why did you have to say it was impossible? Like, I feel like he could at least be like, yeah, it's going to be very challenging. Every game is going to be really tough. We're going to have to play some of the best teams in the world. But like hearing him say that on his podcast, it's like, hey, shut the fuck up, man. Just let the vibes just marinate for a little bit. um i mean yeah it's it's tough to hear from a from a former player when when you know they they come out with with things like that i also know that you know they're you know they have a platform right and and they have you know they they have a a certain way to of doing things and and and reaching out to to their you know their fans um you know it would have been great to to hear them say exactly what you're saying.

2:09:09But at the end of the day, guess what? We're in the changing room. We're on the field. We're the team who's believing in ourselves. And at the end of the day, we want the fans and everybody to believe with us, right? That's a big thing. Believe with us. Join us on this ride because it's fun. It's exciting. It's entertaining. After two games, look what we've accomplished and we're not even near where we want to be. So, you know, what people are saying, you know, it's just that, you know, and we understand that, but we believe. The players believe and you can see it every single day that we – it doesn't matter what anybody's going to tell us.

2:09:58We're going to go out and we're going to keep believing and hopefully everybody else believes in us too.

2:10:02PFT Commenter:How fun is it just being together? Because you guys are, you know, for this extended period, you guys are all kind of, I assume, staying together in the same place and training. Is it like a borderline like summer camp? I know it's obviously more serious than that, but you are kind of hanging out all the time. That's a great way to put it. Honestly, it's a great way to put it. It's imagine, you know, 20, you know, 26 of, or I guess yourself and 25 year boys going on, on a, a, a giant sleep away camp, um, or a, a big, you know, guys vacation. Yeah. Now, granted we are working, it's not a, not a vacation, but, um, yeah, I mean, you wake up and you see everybody and you sit outside where, you know, we're right on the, on, on the water.

2:10:49um you know we have our players lounge we have our our you know our studio here where we can hang out and guys are playing video games we're you know we're watching all the games together we're sitting we're having coffees we're you know we're we're watching the you know the waves crashing i mean it is it's it's amazing it's right and and it goes back to that togetherness right yeah you're constantly you're constantly together um and and you're just you're creating memories um and and creating stories that you're going to be able to tell and share, you know, for, for years and years and years to come.

2:11:20So it's, it's a, it's a unique, you know, a unique setting, but it's, it's one that we're really, really enjoying.

2:11:26PFT Commenter:It sounds like that moment when anyone's been, you know, on a bachelor party and everyone looks around being like, what if we just bought a house together? Just all of us and just said, Hey, we're not going back to our families, which that's fleeting moment, but it happens. There, there may have been, yeah, a few conversations of not houses, but there was a golf cart the other day. A couple of guys were like, maybe we just buy that and put it on the back at the back of the hotel. Can someone ship that back to my house when we're done? So there is a little bit of that. It's almost like, okay, well, we're all together.

2:12:01Let's do something silly and have a story to tell.

2:12:06PFT Commenter:All right, so off that question, I know you guys play, so it's maybe a little different, but from a fan's perspective, do you guys have the Ronaldo versus Messi debate? I wouldn't say there's a debate. I think we all watch those games pretty closely, and everybody has their own opinion and their own favorite. If you're going to ask me what camp I'm in, I'm Camp Messi. The correct one. I've always been that way. that's not to take away from from what Ronaldo's done I just think you know you know Messi is is such a special player to to watch and and you know follow so there's not really a debate but there are guys who will say oh yeah no I'm I'm this side and then there's guys who are oh no I'm on the other side of the fence but we've we've talked about it so much over the years that everybody knows where everybody stands so we all just watch with bated breath and we're like okay what's going to happen today?

2:13:06Big Cat:Yeah. Is there a type of person that's more likely to be a messy guy? Like, can you spot a Ronaldo guy from across the room and be like, oh, yeah, that's a Ronaldo guy?

2:13:16No, honestly, you can't. You really can't. I think, you know, everybody doesn't – they don't carry themselves a certain way that you say, okay, yeah, that makes sense. I wouldn't say, like, I've walked into this group, you know, or anybody's come into the group, and I thought, yeah, I know what side you're on. It's definitely harder to tell with other professional athletes, that's for sure.

2:13:42Big Cat:Can you settle a debate? Because I was talking to our colleague here, Jeff D. Lowe, the other day about if the team has a goal song. Like in hockey, you score a goal, and they play it over the loudspeaker. Do you guys have a goal song? So us as players, we don't have a goal song. But I believe when we score, U.S. soccer decided that – is it Freebird? Good. Yeah, Freebird. Yeah, so when we score in the stadiums, they throw Freebird on immediately after. Okay, I love that. That's a great choice. We were just – we were wondering because we were watching the games. I guess it's a testament to Seattle, but it was so loud after they announced the goals – or on the VAR when they announced the goal that you could not – you couldn't hear what they were playing through the speakers.

2:14:26Big Cat:How cool was that to be playing in front of a crowd that was like that intense? Incredible. I think I saw afterwards that it registered a 3.3 on the earthquake scale or some crazy thing like that. It makes the game so much more special when you have a crowd that is pro-US. And we've not had that in a lot of instances over many, many years. And not to see and feel that, you know, it's it just makes the game, you know, that much more enjoyable. Right. Because you have this again, I keep saying connection. You have this connection with the fans that are in the seats, but then the connection with the fans who are all across the country and celebrating each and every single play, every single goal.

2:15:15So it makes it it makes it so unique. And it it it gives you that we'll call it proverbial 12th man. And we feel that as players, we feel that even going out for the warmups. Right. And it starts long before, you know, long before we score a goal. And, you know, we want that to continue because it is there's nothing more special than than playing in front of a pro U.S. crowd. I'll tell you that right now. There's there's nothing that gets you gets you going more than having that, you know, behind you from from minute one to minute 90 plus.

2:15:48PFT Commenter:okay I just got a text that your bus is about to arrive so we got to wrap this up this has been awesome last question rowback question rhoback.com promo code take 20 % off your first purchase Q-Zips, Polos, Hoodies, Joggers, Shorts rowback.com promo code take thank you so much for joining us Tim because it's been a lot of fun and we love watching you play we usually have Zach do our last question but I'm actually going to change it up here we have a guy in our booth Hank who is rooting against the US he's from America he is rooting against you guys he hates soccer can you just tell him uh you know like how stupid he is none of that's true by the way good question yeah good question hank none of that's true i think i saw yesterday's episode um yeah honestly like whatever yeah you don't want to be a part of it you don't want to be a part of it don't be a part of it i'm not gonna beg you i'm not gonna beg you to be a part of it like whether it's true or not like everybody has their own thing right um i'll tell you what though i'll tell you what though you're you're missing out so yep but it's not it's not hurting my feelings you're you're the one you're the one who's going to miss out on all the fun so we don't even think about you hank respect yeah respect i love that that's a great answer tim do whatever you want yeah yeah doesn't make a difference and he is rooting against us he he's 100 rooting against us so we all know that's true tim you're the best man uh good luck rest of the tournament we'll be watching thank you so much for joining us and let's keep the vibes going uh hi awesome guys thanks for having me i appreciate it tim reen was brought to you by fruit of the loom

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2:18:17PFT Commenter:Okay, let's wrap up the show. We got guys on chicks. Hank. Hey, boys. We don't care about you, Hank. That's what Tim Ream told us.

2:18:26Big Cat:Hey, Hank. My husband and I lost weight for our wedding recently, and now I'm wondering what a reasonable timeline is to let ourselves go back to our usual shape summer just started and now i want to enjoy food which i haven't done for a while my husband will probably get into big cat shape when i get pregnant but i don't want his tits in a bigger than mine what should i do thanks sounds like you got small tits work on that you could also just if you get pregnant then you can put on all

2:18:52PFT Commenter:the weight that you want it is kind of funny like that people just go to the ends of the earth to to look so hot on their wedding day and then they put those pictures in their house for the rest of their lives basically saying if i tried this is what i would look like it's just a reminder like yeah i could do this but i'd not like maybe the move is get fat for your wedding day and then lose weight after and everyone sees you on your wedding on the wedding day pictures they're like oh shit you look awesome now it's that yeah wouldn't that be better have the pictures up

2:19:23Big Cat:It's funny that a woman will get married at her smallest weight, and then she'll keep the dress. Yeah. Like it's an old military uniform. Look how good I used to be. Yeah. Look how in shape I used to be back in the day. Look gross for your wedding day, and then everything else is easy street.

2:19:39PFT Commenter:Max, what's your plan? I've lost a little bit of weight. You have. You look good. I think you look good. I haven't gone full I'm going to starve myself for my wedding, but I feel good. I feel good going into wedding day. What's the plan, though? So you're going away for your wedding like a week in advance, and I would imagine there will be some beers and other things. Is there a, like, hey, almost like a UFC fighter? Are you going to cut weight 24 hours before? No, I'm probably just... No, it's going to be bad going into this. So you basically lost the weight that you are going to gain back before your wedding.

2:20:19Yeah, I'm going to be there for six days before I do the pictures. Yeah. And I'm going to be drinking the frozen drinks. I got to not do the frozen drinks.

2:20:29PFT Commenter:Frozen drinks are so good. Frozen drinks are so good. It's like the best part. A lot of sugar in there. Oh, so much sugar. Dude, I remember at your bachelor party that Saturday, I just switched to frozen drinks. I was doing strawberry daiquiris. I did like five of them, and I just felt so good. Yeah, it's great. Like being in like very warm climate, looking out at the water and drinking a frozen drink is like the best feeling in the world. So yeah, the one good thing is I can always just be like, yeah, I'm just going to eat fish. Oh yeah, true. Fish is healthy and it's fresh fish. Well, not fish and chips.

2:21:03Big Cat:You're probably going to be walking a lot too. Nah, nah. You're not going to be putting any steps in? Walk on the beach. Do a little training on the beach. It's not like a city. It's not like you walk from place to place. Nope. I mean, you're going to be walking around. I'll be walking around the beach and around the resort.

2:21:17PFT Commenter:You should have to swim to your wedding. That'd be good. Swim 50 miles. It's more than that. But Max, I want to say right now, I think you look great. I think you look powerful. That's the difference. You're no longer fat. You look powerful. Yeah. I've been working out a lot more. Yeah. And I've lost like 15 pounds. That's awesome. 15 pounds. and you're just a strong guy. That's the thing. Some people are like, oh, you got to lose weight. Listen, some of us are just strong guys. I'm not, but Max is. He's a strong guy. This is the nicest this show's ever been to me. Hell yeah. It's the truth, though.

2:21:58PFT Commenter:Some guy walks around 130 pounds like, hey, buddy, I get it. You can eat anything and your metabolism will do it. Guess what you don't have? The strength of Max. Facts. Correct. Hell yeah. Feels good.

2:22:13Big Cat:hey daddy cat pro football commenter and pouty hank question my husband laughs at his farts all the time yeah but when i fart it's considered gross yeah when he does it it's hilarious correct even though they smell terrible and are the most off-putting smells and sounds i've ever experienced my friends and family get grossed out except for my brother and dad who also think all farts are hilarious is this just a guy thing why can't girls farts be funny too yeah just it's just one of those things i've never heard a more accurate description of why farts are funny that's perfect i don't i don't know you could just take the word fart out of that too what do you mean why can't girls be funny oh i was gonna say that like i was joking when yeah it would be funny if girls were farting and then other girls were laughing at girls farts but i I don't think that girls laugh at girls farts.

2:23:06Big Cat:I don't think this is just men not laughing at girls farts. I think just across the board, most women hear another woman fart. And it's not nearly as funny as like when a male does it during a interview with an NFL head coach. Everyone thinks that's funny. Look, listen, men take dumps. I got roasted for that. I got punched in the face the other day for farting. Yeah, true. You guys are fake.

2:23:28PFT Commenter:Men take dumps.

2:23:29Big Cat:It was a slap to the back of the head. It was 500 bucks.

2:23:32PFT Commenter:Men take dumps. Okay, that's what we do. So women, no. Yeah, it is probably wrong of us to have that double standard because it does exist everywhere where it's like gross. How could you fart? Meanwhile, I'm just ripping all the time. Except for when I'm interviewing head coaches. Then I can actually have body control.

2:23:55Big Cat:My now husband was well off before we got married, and he always had a large shoe collection, including basketball shoes.

2:24:01PFT Commenter:I like your fit today, Hank.

2:24:02Big Cat:Thanks. Yeah. I was running late. I actually didn't.

2:24:07PFT Commenter:You're like marine desert storm fit.

2:24:10Big Cat:Yeah. I was running late. I kind of threw it on. I would have changed, but I was like, fuck it. I kind of have to go. Are you a hunter? I'm a hunter. I'm a gatherer. I think that's like real tree. You look like you should be in a deer stand somewhere. Fuck yeah. You were hunting for a buck earlier today, and you didn't get him. Not true. That's probably why. That's probably why. You were asleep. probably why um go ahead sorry guys are both asleep i i 100 i had uh something called wake

2:24:40PFT Commenter:up barstool that i had to wake up at 5 a.m so yeah sorry hank i went to bed at 11 p.m it's okay okay uh pf t yeah what's your reason are you the bedtime police now

2:24:55Big Cat:sports never sleep uh yeah i fell asleep last night because i'm a i'm a 41 year old man you're just a little boy no I actually had great

2:25:05PFT Commenter:you probably were staying up with your flashlight under your fucking pillow tent

2:25:09Big Cat:I had great what do you call it ESP I just knew I put my phone on put my alarm on do not disturb I checked my phone maybe you wouldn't have been running late

2:25:22PFT Commenter:and didn't steal valor today with your get up if you had gotten a good amount of sleep True.

2:25:31Big Cat:My now husband was well off. Whatever. He rarely wore. I already read this part. I already read that part. I read that part.

2:25:36PFT Commenter:Read it again.

2:25:37Big Cat:My now husband was well off before we got married. He always had a large shoe collection, including basketball shoes, but he rarely wore many of them due to wanting to preserve them. I finished school now to have my own independent wealth. I like designer heels and related. So I, too, have gathered a lot. But he refuses to allow space in the closet because he can't ruin their vibe. And my shoes are impractical. Would it be wrong for me to challenge him to a game of horse? he wears one of his preserved shoes all over one of my practical heels winner stops complaining

2:26:04PFT Commenter:I like this I don't think that'd be absurd at all I also

2:26:08Big Cat:go for it I went through

2:26:10PFT Commenter:a little shoe phase listen shoes are meant to be worn getting shoes and just having them and just being like I'm never going to wear them is so ridiculous I had that for a little bit of time and I looked one day and I was like I haven't worn any of these shoes why do I have them and then I cleaned out and it's like just Get the shoes that are meant to be worn.

2:26:29Big Cat:I have a lot of shoes. I have no problem wearing the nicer ones. I just have so many that... But I can't get rid of them. That's where I like the hoarding. You can, though. What's the problem? I just... I like them. You like looking at them? I can get rid of clothes. Is that like art for you? No, it's just like I don't... Something happens when it's like, I got to get rid of some of these shoes, but I just can't. I don't know. And that's a little bit about me. I think that it's completely fine if you want to challenge him to a horse. I doubt that he'll accept the challenge Because he probably doesn't want to lose

2:27:00PFT Commenter:He's probably scared as fuck Also like what How is this even a question

2:27:06Big Cat:If you guys have independent wealth Just get another closet

2:27:09PFT Commenter:You put your shoes somewhere else

2:27:11Big Cat:Don't be complaining about independent wealth And being like we have no closet space Yeah that makes no sense That's broke people's shit

2:27:16PFT Commenter:Yeah that is I'm starting to think that the first part of this email was wrong

2:27:19Big Cat:Yeah My husband and I last one My husband and I were three other couples When somebody asked the guys what the male equivalent is of coming home to flowers. Some guys said their wife getting them ice cream and others said things like all the laundry being folded.

2:27:32PFT Commenter:No.

2:27:32Big Cat:My husband then interjected and said, the answer is obviously a blowjob. The other husbands disagreed and they said they would rather have the other things. My husband then told each of their wives that their husbands were lying to them and that they were too afraid to say they just want to BJ every once in a while. My husband said he would also accept me bouncing on it crazy style. My question is, is my husband just way too horny or all of the guy friends lying? I think your husband might be the world's only truth teller. Because it sounds like the other guys were like, I'd rather have all my laundry folded than get a blowjob.

2:28:04PFT Commenter:But this isn't. That's not. I don't think flowers and blowjob are the same. It's not. Coming home to fresh baked chocolate chip cookies. That's the one. That's. When that happens, it's like you hit the lottery. That would be my version of flowers. Does that feel fair? Because it smells good. No, just like, yeah, it's just like it's there and it's sitting on the kitchen table. Like it's very apples to apples as flowers. Yeah. Like they thought about you. That's the thing with flowers. Like you're really just saying, hey, I thought about you. Coming home to a blowjob is like that's eating pussy.

2:28:40PFT Commenter:You got to do that. That's where that is.

2:28:42Big Cat:I think it's like the chocolate chip cookie is not a bad one. A nice dinner that you particularly like that isn't one of her favorites would be another. or just a hat. Sometimes I like coming home and be like, hey, I saw this hat, thought about you, boom, new hat. The meanest thing I come home. It's just like, yeah, same thing. Like I thought about a hat. You don't like it. Guys don't like getting hats. I got so many hats.

2:29:10PFT Commenter:You have too many hats. I do have so many hats. About 10 ,000. Yeah. The meanest thing that I have to deal with is that when my wife cooks chocolate chip cookies, but they're for someone else. They're for like a bake sale at the school. And then I'm not allowed to have them. And then I still sneak and eat like a bunch of them. She actually has gotten smarter. She just she makes a side batch. So she keeps the main batch away from me. And she just like she has me focus on the side batch. The side batch will have like five and I'll just dust them all. So chocolate chip cookies will be my pick. Brownies even hat.

2:29:45PFT Commenter:Hat is a terrible. You guys only get hats. No, I don't. How many hats you come home to? What are you talking about? Just like a shirt or a hat. Yeah, I like to pick out my own hats.

2:30:01Big Cat:I don't know if I gifted a hat. It's the same thing. It's like, hey, saw this hat, thought about you. I wish this was in Mount Rushmore.

2:30:09PFT Commenter:Great hat. Saw this hat.

2:30:11Big Cat:I like getting a hat. Saw this hat, thought about you, thought you might like it. Isn't that nice? Yeah, I don't think that's happening. All gifts are nice if you think about it like that.

2:30:20PFT Commenter:Yeah, but it's like, I don't think that's ever happened. I mean, that's a you problem. I've gotten hats galore. I have too many hats. We're not trying to add more hats.

2:30:31Big Cat:Yeah, I don't think that would ever happen because I have too many hats. Right. They would never be like, you know what he needs? A hat.

2:30:36PFT Commenter:A hat. Let me get him one of these hats. Just in case we run, in case the house burns down and we have no hats left.

2:30:45Big Cat:I got to get one hat. Just nice to know that they thought of you.

2:30:54Big Cat:i don't know when this became an anti-hat podcast that's not that's not the argument that's okay some guys like that's not the argument i'm a visor guy yeah it's not the advisor if you wanted to give me a visor yeah big cat's got a million hats it never has any chocolate chip cookies though you're gonna be like i have chocolate chip cookies every day you do no i'm saying you could say i don't chip cookies homemade chocolate chip cookies are not

2:31:17PFT Commenter:the same as hats in my house. I have 500 hats. Homemade chocolate chip cookies happen like once every two months.

2:31:24Big Cat:I like hats. They're very different. I'm not going to apologize. PT, I feel like you run into a lot of at work hats already. I do.

2:31:31PFT Commenter:Yeah, we have we are we literally like we're like sideshow Bob stepping on a rake. You can't go four feet in this office without finding a hat. I have hats just everywhere.

2:31:42Big Cat:You do too. We all have. I'm not denying that I have a lot of hats. I got Colton's wearing a cool hat. Yeah, Colton, that's a nice hat. Really nice hat. Our numbers. Quick, quick. 100. 50, 55. 18. Say it, Colton. 69. 7. What do we get?

2:32:01PFT Commenter:57. 57. Fucking A. All right, say your numbers again. 18. 50. 100. 27. Colton says 69. Coolest guy we got.

2:32:10Big Cat:65. 45.

2:32:28Big Cat:14 14 No 14s No 14s across the board No 14s Miss any birthdays recently PFC It sounds like I have No I don't know No I didn't miss any birthdays happy birthday to Bradley Chubb to Lamar Houston to JJ Reddick Will Compton's favorite coach happy birthday to the goat messy happy birthday messy happy birthday on Thursday to Mark Titus oh nice shout out Titus happy birthday to Matt Schaub

2:33:07PFT Commenter:Lamar Houston was still one of the dumbest injuries of all time and Lala Anthony happy

2:33:11Big Cat:birthday to you too. Also, Thursday, happy birthday to Kevin White. Oh, nice. And Del Curry. And to Kimbe Mutombo.

2:33:18PFT Commenter:Lamar Houston tearing his ACL, doing a sack dance when the Bears were down like 40.

2:33:24Big Cat:Yep. Also, happy birthday to Monet Davis, Little League World Series champion. Absolute all-star champion. One of the greatest pitchers that we've ever seen. I remember as a chin take the bump. Awesome player. World champion. Monet Davis. And who hates on her got problems. Great story that was. I wouldn't mind one of the one of her hats from the Little League like that team that she was on Taney Little League what was it that's a hat Taney I would love a Taney Little League hat that'd be a nice treat I gotta fact check that alright love you guys I was right what Taney World Champion

2:34:14Thank you.

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2:35:44Thank you.

From the publisher

The NBA Draft first round happened in Brooklyn on Tuesday night and the picks went about how everyone expected. PFT is all wizzed up even though some are calling the Trae Young contract the worst contract in the NBA. Giannis traded to the Heat and Jaylen Brown is now left in no mans land (00:00:00-00:29:10). Ronaldo has finally entered the 2026 World Cup and claims he's back and more soccer talk (00:29:10-00:38:02). Mt Rushmore of Hard to Spell Words (00:38:02-00:59:36). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Dusty May to the Mavs, Sorsby has nowhere to go and more (00:59:36-01:22:23). Wyndham Clark joins the show to talk about his US Open at Shinnecock, the fans hating him on Sunday, opening up some grape, and a hilarious Baker Mayfield story (01:22:23-01:47:30). USMNT Captain Tim Ream joins the show to talk about the World Cup, the vibe shift with Poch as Head Coach, how far this team can go and more (01:47:30-02:14:55). We finish with guys on chicks.


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