NFL Preview With Mike Florio, Mt Rushmore Of Hall Of Very Good, Tommy Fleetwood Wins The Big One And Who's Back Of The Week

11:03PFT Commenter:Are you going to also bet more money on Europe?

11:05Big Cat:No.

11:07PFT Commenter:Do you want to? Would you? If we're in international waters?

11:12Big Cat:Europe is underdog right now in the DraftKings Sportsbook. Oh, he's going to bet on Europe. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. Plus signs. Yes, you are. I'm America. Embrace the deal. I'm America through and through. Red, white, and blue runs through these veins. So does England.

11:27PFT Commenter:I kind of want you to bet. The UK. I can't. It would be good content.

11:31Big Cat:I can't.

11:32PFT Commenter:But if you won, you'd get to dunk on us.

11:34Big Cat:I can't. Henadict Arnold. I can't. I can't. You won't. I won't.

11:42PFT Commenter:So we're closing the book on Tommy. Unless he comes on the pod this week. But he's now the enemy.

11:48Big Cat:Yeah, let's get it until Wednesday. I look at him now as being like, I don't really trust you, but I respect you. As of Wednesday, I'm going to be in full on, fuck Tommy Fleetwood. I'm seeing a couple predictions saying that Cantlay may be on the team. Uh-oh. Fuck that. They had like three likes on Twitter. Cantlay is not and Keegan's not. Should we want him on the team to cool Europe down? To go slow as slow could be? That's why I kind of liked it when Patrick Reed was on the Ryder Cup team. It's like, let's send our biggest dickhead out there. Yeah, just piss them off. Yeah, piss them off. Get in their heads.

12:23Big Cat:But it was fun. It was fun.

12:25PFT Commenter:Tommy Fleetwood, what a bet. Rob with two Bs. Shout out. and all the AWOs who followed and listened to the show. Pays to listen to the show. 16 to 1. Because we lose a lot, but that one was fun.

12:36Big Cat:It did feel like one of those bets that we were – I was dreading having to watch Tommy Fleetwood play weekend golf all week. Yeah. I was like, I can't believe that this is happening to me. Also, shout out to Tom Fornelli, who for like the first time ever did not bet on Tommy Fleetwood because he learned his lesson last week.

12:51PFT Commenter:That's the crazy part is we – like, I don't know about you guys. I don't think I've ever bet Tommy Fleetwood to win. No.

12:56Big Cat:And this was our first experience, and it was a great one. We timed the Tommy Fleetwood market. Yeah. We're the only people in the world, I think, that were able to do that.

13:04PFT Commenter:Yeah. I agree with you. The experience. So, Tron Carter from No Laying Up, I started DMing with him because he's like the biggest Tommy Fleetwood fan. Yeah. He flew for today just to be there. That's ride or die. And I was like, what are we expecting here? Like, talk me through this. and he's like, if he can have a lead on Sunday, I think this is the one he can actually win. Because the whole time in the back of my head, I was like, Saturday's going to be fine. Sunday is where it's going to suck.

13:33Big Cat:And it looked like things were going bad on Saturday. And I forget which announcer. I don't think it was Smiley that was saying this, but when Tommy... Kisner maybe. Maybe Kisner. When Smiley... Colt Nost. When Tommy went into the water on 15 on Saturday and then he high-fived all the fans that were lined up going up to the drop zone and the announcers just cream themselves on that. To me, I was thinking this is loser behavior by Tommy. They're like, look how nice he's being to all the fans that are out there. If you think that Scotty or Tiger would ever take a moment to high-five fans after going into water on a massive tournament that they were winning, you're insane.

14:09Big Cat:But it worked for Tommy. Good guy. Great guy. Great guy.

14:12PFT Commenter:And you said you didn't feel safe until 18. I actually felt safe I think going after 16 because he was up 3 with 2 to play and at that point I think I texted everyone I was like at least we got our money's worth because it's either we win the money or it's an all time all time choke that would be so funny to be mad about we earned it at that point it was tied going into 18 and he lost we couldn't complain that much if he lost up 3 with 2 strokes there was a part of me I wanted to win the bet But a part of me was like, this would be so fucking funny.

14:47Big Cat:Yeah, we tailed an email, a random email that we got, and it led us to betting on the guy who's known for losing tournaments on Sunday. Then we got to experience the most concentrated version of that Tommy Fleetwood. That would have been kind of interesting. Yeah. We learned a lesson for sure with that one. Also, shout out Tommy Fleetwood's adult stepson. Yes. See that? They came out and congratulated him, I think, the first person. Yes. They said like, hey, just so you know, that's the stepson that's out there. I think they're the same age.

15:14PFT Commenter:Dude, having an adult stepson would be so much fun.

15:17Big Cat:It would be cool.

15:18PFT Commenter:Just having a, like, he has to be your friend. Yeah. If you've been a good stepfather, you just have an automatic friend.

15:23Big Cat:I also think Tommy Fleetwood might be the best stepdad ever.

15:26PFT Commenter:Yeah.

15:26Big Cat:Like, my stepdad kicks ass. He's really nice.

15:28PFT Commenter:He's a dad who stepped up. Yeah, he's great at golf. Yeah, we should all get adult stepsons. Because you, I guess Zach kind of is our adult stepson. Yeah. When you think about it. I actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I have multiple adults. I have Stephen Shea, I have Zach, I have Jerry. You kind of collect them. I have a lot. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I'm so drawn to adult stepsons. I've been in the adult stepson business for a while now. The sons of the stuff. Yeah. I like having adult stepsons. Also, shout out that the, what do you call it? Spotter. Spotter. There it is. All-time hustle clip.

16:04PFT Commenter:Just an incredible, just sprinting. This dude was sprinting, and I'm pretty sure the ball was very much in sight the whole time. Yeah.

16:12Big Cat:It wasn't like a deep wood shot. He was also weaving in at a FedEx Cup. Yeah.

16:16PFT Commenter:It's the biggest one. It's the biggest tournament you could possibly win.

16:21Big Cat:Except for the Ryder Cup. I have a Mike Greenberg's dumb trade for the Ryder Cup. Oh, okay. Just based off name and look. Okay. Harris English. Yep. Matt Fitzpatrick.

16:34PFT Commenter:Matt Fitzpatrick's too English. Yeah, he's very British. But Harris English, I agree we should get rid of.

16:39Big Cat:We'll take John Rahm. John Rahm is ASU. He went to ASU. That's as American as it gets.

16:45PFT Commenter:Yeah, I think Jon Rahm would be the one we want to get. And also, like, Spain. Come on. It's not England. Yeah, it's not. Yeah, Harris English. Seeing that name every time. 100%. We got that fact right. Spain is not England. Yeah. Harris English, though, he's got to go.

16:59Big Cat:Yeah. But he's automatically on. The spotter was just so fast. Like, he got under that rope. He weaved in between two cars. He looked ridiculous. He started, like, pushing people out of the way. I got it. I got it. I got it.

17:10PFT Commenter:this was memes at the camp barstool yeah what did we ever get the explanation for that for people who watch camp barstool there was a relay race and mincey had to run in one of the or no it's kb who's running in the leg of the relay race and memes wasn't even filming he just decided to sprint his ass off next to kb i don't know if you saw this clip uh pft but it was it made no sense i had to get to the other side what for what i was filming social why but you weren't filming when you were running. You were just like, I'm just kidding.

17:41Big Cat:Oh, he was so fast. I couldn't do it.

17:43PFT Commenter:So you were going to film maybe.

17:46Big Cat:Did you think you were going to beat him? So the original plan - Did you try and beat him off the jump? Yeah, you did. Yeah, the original plan was because Minty was so slow, we were like, all right, we should have somebody down there, like get to the other side as fast as possible. Like maybe could outrun him so you could film. Speed demon.

18:04PFT Commenter:Yeah, watch this. Watch this, PFT. KB's running. So KB's taking the baton. He's running. You're like, oh, and there's memes.

18:13Big Cat:He looks like that ref. Look at memes.

18:15PFT Commenter:He's just going so fast through the woods. DK Metcalf. Yeah, what were you doing? I had to get to the other side. You were chasing him. You were chasing Kyle.

18:25Big Cat:It's also always shocking when memes does something athletic because when he's just like in non-athlete mode, when he's just walking around the office, hanging out, he doesn't move like an athlete. but the second he has to do something sporty it's like oh fuck where'd that come from me yeah he's D1 athlete yeah all American no not D1 athlete D2 D3 D3 athlete he's played D2

18:48PFT Commenter:for a little can I tell you something that I was I could have played D1 yeah could have played D1 I was with my friends this afternoon we got like my college friends and all of our families nine kids it was too much too many kids just in a backyard and one of my friends was just like we were just shooting the shit and he's just like that memes guy is crazy it was out of nowhere too and i was like yeah he is he's like like you gotta watch out for him i was like yeah we do he's a little bit it was so funny it was just out of nowhere like not we weren't really talking about he's just like yeah that memes guy man watch out for him he's like almost warning me for like being a good friend that i've known for 20 years being like hey i want you to be safe like when you go to work Like steer clear of that memes guy

19:35Big Cat:Well that's Crazy but

19:37PFT Commenter:I mean you've tried to fight like everyone in this room You said that you were going to blow yourself up I've watched you ball your fist Against myself Against Hank, Max I've watched that happen

19:49Big Cat:What was my name in your contact for a while?

19:52PFT Commenter:Enemy What is Yeah I remember the time When you kind of stepped to me I was like shit man Is he gonna punch me No I like it though It's a good It's what we need on this show We need one person Who's just mad at the world And we'll sprint after Kyle

20:10Big Cat:The enemy is insane

20:12PFT Commenter:The enemy is so funny

20:12Big Cat:What'd you do Hank Nothing Existed

20:15PFT Commenter:Can't exist

20:18Big Cat:If the Jets ever get good I'll be happy Okay Yeah but then you'll be like I remember everybody That talks shit about the Jets On the way up Yeah Fuck you guys Pull a Billy Say I feel bad for you guys? Yeah.

20:32PFT Commenter:Yeah. Man. We should write a whole chapter on that. All right. Other sports news. Hank, question for you. Yeah. I'm assuming you watched all of Iowa State versus Kansas State in Dublin. No. Why? It's football in a foreign country. That's a good point.

20:53Big Cat:But I was not watching it. It was the last week in the summer, last Saturday. Did you watch on the broadcast when the team went around asking people in Ireland, like, what is a touchdown? And nobody knew anything about football. Well, that's Ireland. They haven't been conditioned to football since, you know, 2007.

21:08PFT Commenter:Did you watch on the broadcast when you could not see any of the numbers on the field or anything on the field?

21:17Big Cat:Again, this is Ireland, England, big difference. We all know that. Do we? Doesn't really rain in England. England's been conditioned to football for a long time. Ireland is new. Did you watch the opening drive where there was an off punt and then there was an immediate fumble on a toss on the goal line because it was too wet and the rain was too bad? I did not. It's week zero for everyone.

21:41PFT Commenter:Yeah, it was fun at the end of the game when there was a fourth down. I think Kansas State was trying to convert it to, I think they were down three and just had no idea where the ball was because we couldn't see any of the markers. That was definitely a first down. Definitely first down, but I also don't know because I couldn't see anything. Did you watch that, Hank?

22:02Big Cat:Missed that. Okay. Did you watch the starting quarterback of Kansas State's dad fight his son after the game? I did catch that one. Okay.

22:10PFT Commenter:Which, by the way, I have zero problem with that. The dad whooped his ass. Yeah, but it's also like if the dad was fighting another Kansas State fan or an Iowa State fan, that's a problem. this is just some they're just having it out as a family yeah like let them have it ties are like

22:29Big Cat:kissing your sister and losing farmageddon is like fighting your dad yeah two grown men related

22:35PFT Commenter:should should be able to fight like this by the way didn't ireland already have a farmageddon

22:39Big Cat:in the 1800s yeah nobody could eat potatoes for like a decade yeah everyone came here that was

22:45PFT Commenter:england's fault it's true everything bad guys bad guys uh i did like watch i i did like watch

22:53Big Cat:I really enjoyed having football on, though.

22:55PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah.

22:55Big Cat:It was the best.

22:56PFT Commenter:It was the best. And we're going to, like I said at the beginning of the show, but Wednesday is going to be our big college football preview. We're going to have Brandon Walker versus Tom Fernelli round two. Brandon Walker is our standing college football expert on this show.

23:09Big Cat:Yep.

23:10PFT Commenter:He won last year.

23:11Big Cat:One year.

23:12PFT Commenter:One year recurring title. We're going to have them both in studio. We're going to break down the whole thing. We're going to get everyone ready for week one coming up. I got a dumb thought, Big Cat.

23:20Big Cat:Yeah. This is my prisoner of the moment of the week moment.

23:23PFT Commenter:I like this. Jalen Daniels. Give us a sound.

23:27Big Cat:Prisoner of the week. Okay, prisoner of the week of the week. Prisoner of the moment of the week.

23:32PFT Commenter:Yep.

23:34Big Cat:Why shouldn't I put a future on Jalen Daniels to win Heisman Trophy? I don't think Kansas is going to win enough games. Okay. That would be my... Okay, can I give you a counterpoint? Yeah. His name sounds a lot like Jaden Daniels. Yes, of course. It has for his whole life. I know. What if it was a combo year? MVP Heisman. You can try it. Jay and Daniels. Great odds.

23:56PFT Commenter:They have to win the Heisman. You got to win at least, I'm going to say, nine, eight games. Yeah. Eight games was last year, I think, with Travis Hunter. Let's take a look at Kansas' schedule. They play. So they beat up on Fresno State. Yep. They play Wagner. Okay, win. That's a win. They got to go to Missouri. That's probably a loss. They're at home against West Virginia. They can win that. Cincinnati at home. Cincinnati's going through some rebuilding. New stadium. They like that stadium. UCF at UCF. UCF's probably going to be wearing some cool astronaut jerseys or something.

24:33Big Cat:Wagner's really giving me pause, though.

24:35PFT Commenter:At Texas Tech is a loss. Okay. Kansas State, they're at home, but that's a tough game for them every year. Yep. Oklahoma State at home at Arizona. Then they play at Iowa State and Utah to finish. I don't know.

24:51Big Cat:There's a few losses in there. It's 60-1 on the DraftKings Sportsbook right now. It's not crazy. I'll say it.

24:57PFT Commenter:Yeah, I mean, listen. That's just him for Heisman?

24:59Big Cat:That's for Jalen Daniels for Heisman, yeah.

25:01PFT Commenter:Kansas is one of those teams. If they could get to nine or ten wins, that would be, and he plays. He's had flashes of it.

25:08Big Cat:Again, this is entirely based on me watching. And I did see him play a couple times last year, too. He was just nodding his head. Big 12. Big 12. Everett, Kansas plays in the Big 12. Wide open.

25:18PFT Commenter:Wide open.

25:19Big Cat:Travis Hunter played in the Big 12.

25:21PFT Commenter:That's facts. Good point. That's facts. Conference of Heismans.

25:26Big Cat:Do you want to do it? I think I have to. I got a couple nickels in my pocket jingling around after Tommy.

25:35PFT Commenter:Yeah, I mean, he's – listen, he's a good – he's an electric player. He's been at Kansas forever. And when he's healthy, he's awesome.

25:45Big Cat:I just want to make one thing. This is not our official PMT Heisman pick.

25:49PFT Commenter:No, I think we'll maybe decide that on Wednesday. I have some thoughts that I wanted to throw out to Tom and Brandon.

25:56Big Cat:But I will be talking about all the good things that Jalen Daniels does this year. Yeah, do it. Okay. Do it. He's so good.

26:03PFT Commenter:Kansas opened their new stadium. I think they did. Yeah. So that has to be a little bit of a bump. A lot of buzz in Lawrence. A lot of buzz. Okay. Other things we got going on. We got the final week's preseason done.

26:17Big Cat:Any notes from it? No, I didn't really have any notes from it. Shador Sanders looked bad, and the internet is a stranger place than I even thought that it was. The takes are wild. The Shador takes are crazy out there.

26:31PFT Commenter:They think that the offensive line is racist. They think Kevin Stefanski is racist.

26:39PFT Commenter:Let's see. I bookmarked a few of these. Yeah, Kevin Stefanski is the clearest example of what systemic racism actually looks like. That's quite a take.

26:54Big Cat:Yeah, there's probably a couple better examples you could use.

26:56PFT Commenter:Yeah, and also Shadour. I mean, it appears to me, this is from our guy, Robert Little. It appears to me, Coach, didn't want Shadour to go win the game because he didn't want to hear all the convo about Shadour leading a great two-minute drill. now who knows if he would have or not be or have or not but coach didn't want to take that chance one of the last memory of him was looking bad so when they bury him it would look justified that's shady untrustworthy behavior so they should let it just let him go i don't i don't know if

27:26Big Cat:that's what happened listen uh the cleveland browns they are willing to overlook a lot of stuff at the quarterback position i think having to do like one or two extra seconds of an interview after a preseason game is not going to impact what the Browns choose to do with their quarterback rotation.

27:42PFT Commenter:Yeah. So Kevin Stefanski gives Dylan Gabriel easy short routes with max protection, then gives Shador Sanders bullshit plays in an O-line that looks like they just ate a gang of little Debbies. Fuck you, Browns. Straight Shador.

27:54Big Cat:That's what an O-line should look like. Yeah. I actually think that Kevin Stefanski starting DTR in actual NFL football games is concrete evidence of him not being racist. Correct. It's like case closed.

28:06PFT Commenter:Also, he's a very good coach, one coach of the year. And it's also, again, we're going to get to this with Florio. It's not the difference of Shador starting or not. It's just where he is in the depth chart, right?

28:21Big Cat:Joe Flacco's a starter. Right, Joe Flacco's a starter. Shador, when he plays, he's going to not be playing with the starting offensive lineman. Correct. And also, Shador was not really doing his line any favors. No. He was like running backwards. He drifts. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, I hope that Shador's in the league. I hope that he plays. Good for the take system. It's great for the take ecosystem. We need that. The little Debbie singer reminded me. What is the booger? What was the resolution you came to? Yeah.

28:51PFT Commenter:So this, I should have mentioned it. We'll have booger on maybe next week. So I tweeted, today's the day for Tommy Fleetwood. I don't think booger knew that we had made the bet. Thanks for listening, booger. and he said, I'll make you a bet that if Tommy Fleetwood wins, I'll buy your donuts for a month. And if he loses, you can't eat donuts for a month. And I said, hey, look, Booger, appreciate it. But why don't we do a different bet? I don't need you to buy my donuts. Tommy Fleetwood's going to win this. And when he does, you have to eat 12 donuts on PMT. I like that. So he now has to eat 12 donuts on PMT, and I will have the footage of him being a fat fuck that every single time he tweets mean things to me, I'm just going to be like, hey, Booger, here's you stuffing your face with donuts.

29:39Big Cat:But isn't Booger eating 12 donuts during an interview going to make you insanely jealous?

29:43PFT Commenter:I'll probably have my own donuts. Okay, yeah. Victory donuts. No, I mean, I'll just accompany him. You think you can eat 12 donuts? No, no, I'm not going to eat 12. No, I know. That's hard. Yeah, no, it's going to be difficult. I don't know what we're going to do. Maybe we'll do... I was thinking about it. Maybe we'll have him on next week and we'll have him picture in a picture because it won't be good podcasting for him to eat into the mic. So picture in a picture and he can't talk till he eats the 12 donuts.

30:09Big Cat:I like that. So he has to listen to us tape part of my take.

30:11PFT Commenter:He has to listen to us tape part of my take. He's just sitting there. The AWLs get to watch him eat 12 donuts. How about guys on chicks? Boogers eating donuts. Guys on chicks. And then when he's done, we're just like, hey, Booger, first question. He's just 12 donuts deep.

30:23Big Cat:Yeah, that's good.

30:24PFT Commenter:Yeah, it's going to be fun. Also, I should have mentioned there was a very funny tweet that I bookmarked because I was going through my bookmarks just now about Tommy Fleetwood. And I was looking because at first I was like, no, I'm not going to get got. But then I was looking at the follow ups and this girl seems real. She said, dad's glad Fleetwood finally closed out a moment. This is from Francis. And it's a text from her father. Cousin Dickey passed away Wednesday. He just turned 74 on August 10th. A barrel of fertilizer fell on him and broke a lot of bones and punctured a lung. Had much internal bleeding.

30:58PFT Commenter:Happy to see Fleetwood finally win one. All in one text. Such a dad text.

31:04Big Cat:I love that.

31:05PFT Commenter:And then her follow-up side was like, I don't want to get gotten. She was like, yeah, my family was in farming. This is a real thing.

31:11Big Cat:This is how we break the news to each other.

31:13PFT Commenter:That's how dads do it. Okay. What else we got before we get to who's back? And then we have some Mount Rushmore. Oh, don't call Michael Penix. Michael Penis. Don't do that.

31:23Big Cat:Do not. He will fight you. Do not call him Michael Penis. And Otani also got into it with a spectator. He did. And by getting to it, he hit home run and then found the guy and then gave him a high five. Oh. Okay. So, yeah. That's Otani getting into it.

31:39PFT Commenter:Yeah, he got into it. Cubs also might be back. Five games back. Kyle Tucker. Just need to sit for a little bit. He's got three home runs in the last three days.

31:48Big Cat:QB's Ben DiNucci. very funny tweet from the bar. Yep. Yeah. It's like no beer hits like getting a cut from your 12th team beer. Yeah. Who can relate. I think Ben DiNucci will be on another roster at some point this season. I hope so. I don't think we've heard the last of Gucci DiNucci.

32:04PFT Commenter:Yeah.

32:05Big Cat:Yeah, that was...

32:06PFT Commenter:It sucks for him. Yeah. Also, Cal Raleigh hit his 49th home run. Yep, he hit two. He hit two. He hit 48 and 49. And most home runs in the season by a catcher. Salvador Perez was I think yeah I think he had 48 so he beat that and he's gonna be the second Mariner ever with 50 home run season pretty crazy insane season Hank where are you at are you

32:35Big Cat:if they had the Red Sox won three out of four against the Yankees they had swept I was ready to push the button I'm still I'm still not on the bandwagon you guys are you guys have the wild card yeah yeah You got to push the button. Do I? Yeah, it's basically September baseball. You got to push the button. Get hot. It's not September baseball yet, though.

32:54PFT Commenter:But get hot. It's basically September baseball is what he said.

32:58Big Cat:I said if they swept them, I was all in. I'm basically all in.

33:01PFT Commenter:Okay, I'll take that. Can I put my hand up for maybe lack of ball knowledge? But I feel like baseball, you follow your team. You don't really know what's going on in the rest of the teams. Because I was at Saratoga with Dave this weekend. He bet on the Red Sox. I didn't know Aroldis Chapman was just like unhittable again. Yeah. He said it, and he was like, yeah, Chapman. I was like, Aroldis? He's been around forever. Won the World Series with the Cubs nine years ago. And he's like, I guess, like truly unhittable again?

33:34Big Cat:Still throwing triple digits. But he had control issues because, like, he was on the Pirates.

33:39PFT Commenter:He was all over the place.

33:39Big Cat:1-0-8 ERA. Jeez.

33:41PFT Commenter:That's nuts. Jeez. Bad guy. Better baseball player than Guy. Way better. That one is easy. That one's really easy. Max, how the Phil's doing?

33:51Big Cat:Good. Up seven games on the Mets right now. Just took two or three from the Nats.

33:56PFT Commenter:You guys would agree that if the Brewers blew the NL Central, that would be a choke job? It would be. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. I mean, it's funny how it's turned because it was a choke job.

34:07Big Cat:It will be. I hope they don't. It would be a shame. Chapman has a 0.33 ERA over his last 30 appearances.

34:15PFT Commenter:That's insane. That's insane. I mean, when he's good, he's so great. And I just assumed that because he did the thing where he was kind of going on different teams and it was like puttering out. You know, he went Pirates, Rangers, Royals. Like, that's a lot of teams that he wasn't in high leverage big games. What was his ERA on those? He just had control issues at the – he would like go in and out of control issues. Yeah. Yeah. Cause he was bad. Remember? Yeah. His last stint with the Yankees. I feel like he couldn't, he, he was, he was bad. And I was like, well, that's all she wrote. I guess we're all the Chapman unhittable.

34:55PFT Commenter:So you're back on the train.

34:57Big Cat:Pretty much all the way back. Oh,

34:58PFT Commenter:there you go. There you go. Almost in. You're following along with it. Yeah. Yeah. So then, then if you're following along and watching the games, you're on,

35:07Big Cat:I guess. Yeah. Are you excited about postseason baseball? I love postseason baseball. Love postseason baseball. Love postseason hockey. Both sports that I don't really watch a lot of the regular season, I will watch every postseason baseball game. There's nothing. Hockey is similar when it's tied in the third period. A tied postseason baseball game going into the seventh inning, there's nothing better. Yeah. Every pitch matters. Everything is just waiting for that one moment. Also. Regular season. The AWLs need Phillies Red Sox in the World Series. There's going to be a lot of representation for this.

35:45PFT Commenter:The Cubs are all on a collision course.

35:48Big Cat:There's going to be a lot on this podcast for postseason baseball.

35:52PFT Commenter:Could be. The Rockies, by the way, were eliminated. Oh, really? Good for them. Yeah, so shout out them. Oh, Max, we should have. This is a bad job by me. Farmageddon, would you like to take the floor and talk about the over? Because that was bullshit.

36:09Big Cat:You kept talking about it the whole time That's all I was thinking about It was such bullshit It was fucked when they fumbled on the zero yard line In like the first minute of the game It was like you can't come back from that You did come back I know And then we did come back I was watching it at a bar And I was like kind of running a little late to the wedding So we had the Uber out front waiting And we were like alright let's just watch this play And then they scored and we were like fuck yeah that's the over We get into the car and then we put it on YouTube TV to watch the end of it. And we were like, what's going on?

36:42Big Cat:Why are they kneeling this out? This should have hit the over.

36:45PFT Commenter:There's nothing worse. That's a good way to start.

36:48Big Cat:Yeah, first game of the year. And then Mims and I also had Kansas team total over 31.5. They had 24 in the first half. Scored a touchdown to make it 31 early in the third quarter and never scored again.

36:59PFT Commenter:We're back. We're back. But it felt good to be mad.

37:03Big Cat:Thank God I had Hawaii late because that would have also been tough.

37:09PFT Commenter:Shout out Andrew Luck. He was everywhere. Yep. Literally. Did you see that pregame clip? He was like walking in with the team. Then he was in the box. Then he was on the sideline. Then he was in the stands. Changing the culture.

37:20Big Cat:Also, shout out Hawaii's kicker.

37:22PFT Commenter:Yeah.

37:22Big Cat:That's a cool story.

37:23PFT Commenter:Great story. Okay. Yeah. He was born in Japan. Born in Japan. I think he learned how to kick on YouTube. Learned how to kick on YouTube. Then lived in Ohio for a year. Yeah. So I think that was just to, like, boost up his football resume.

37:35Big Cat:Yeah, played Juco for two years.

37:37PFT Commenter:Yeah, just be like, I lived in Ohio. I can play football. Yeah, college coaches are like, check. Yeah, prove the point. Yep. Yeah, very cool. And then we hit the game-winning kick against Stanford to start off the football season. Okay, let's get to who's back the week. Hey, Illinois, Stella Blue Coffees, new canned lattes are here and in a store near you. Crafted with 100 % Colombian coffee Each can is a good source of protein And comes in two smooth flavors Espresso Cafe Mocha And Espresso Sweet Cream Whether you're braving your morning commute Or chasing your pup Stella Blue cans are for those Always on the go and for those who care Stella Blue is more than just great coffee It's about giving back I named the brand after my rescue dog Stella Who inspired our mission to help more dogs Find their forever homes Every purchase supports animal rescue organizations So when you drink Stella Blue You're not just fueling your day You're saving a dog's life Try the new cans today Head to our store locator on StellaBlueCoffee.com And sign up to redeem a Buy one, get one free offer And who's back of the week Is brought to you by our friends Truly Hard Seltzer Truly Hard Seltzer is all about Fun, light, refreshing variety And a bubbly, effervescent style to get you and your people in a lively party mood.

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39:38PFT Commenter:Okay, Hank, who's back of the week?

39:40Big Cat:My who's back of the week are Green Dildos. Oh, good. Yeah. Big weekend. They're going multi-sport. Not multi-national, multi-sport. Oh, they're the Shohei Otani of sex toys. There was one in the bunker at Eastlake. Okay. And there was one at Vikings Titans. Oh, okay. So we're confusing the masses. I like this. Do you say the masses? No, the masses. The masses. So are they doing it for the crypto thing?

40:10PFT Commenter:Might be.

40:11Big Cat:Because that's when I'm out on it. Yeah, agreed. If it's just for the love of throwing a green dildo, I'm in. I think that we need to change up the color. I'm not going to support green dildos anymore, But if it's like a flesh color, I'm fine with that. You want it more realistic? What color flesh? It doesn't matter. Across the spectrum.

40:30PFT Commenter:Okay.

40:30Big Cat:But the green dildo, to me, now that's been sullied by the crypto plug that they're doing for it.

40:36PFT Commenter:Yeah. Hank, what were your scores this weekend?

40:40Big Cat:Played a good Friday. Shot 89. Played a really bad Saturday. Club championship 103. Didn't even make it to day two. Shot 94 today. Oh, congrats. 103? 103. It was a disaster. That's ugly. Really bad. So were you not watching Tommy today? I was watching Tommy today. I played early.

41:03PFT Commenter:You weren't watching Kansas State or Iowa State?

41:05Big Cat:No, I saw it when I went in the clubhouse to make the turn. It was on the screen. I was like, oh, football. I did take a nap for a little bit of Tommy today. It was nice.

41:14PFT Commenter:Oh, you got it on Sunday. Yeah. Yeah. But if you had realized it was in Dublin, would you have stopped playing the round?

41:21Big Cat:I actually knew it was in Dublin. Oh, no. But, yeah, no. Still no.

41:26PFT Commenter:Yeah, okay.

41:27Big Cat:Guy was playing with actually his son, or he just dropped his son off at Iowa State. He's telling me. He's like, oh, yeah, they got to give me his kids. I was like, is that today? He's like, yeah. It's college football. Football, back.

41:36PFT Commenter:College football sneaks up on Hank every year. Week zero does that. Yeah. Well, no, week like five, six, seven, all of it. Yeah. They're doing this again? Are you locked in for this weekend? I'm never locked in for college football. Do you have a new team? No, UNC. Oh, okay. Yeah, UNC. That's right. Okay. PFT, you're who's back? College football has passed me. I'm 32. Never stuck. Never stuck? You never know.

41:58Big Cat:The Washington last year was fun. I don't even think Hank really likes football. I do. I watch. Listen, I'm here. I'm watching more football than anyone on the weekends. Those are two words that don't appeal to Hank. College. I love football. I've had most championships on this team. Well, yeah, that's my point. You like winning football. Yes, as anyone should. But you don't like football. Correct. I have a standard. It's called having... I have a standard. I have a standard of excellence. And other people should too. If I was memes, I wouldn't even follow the judge.

42:36Big Cat:All right. PFT. My Who's Back of the Week is China. Oh! Chinese Taipei won the Little League World Series. Congrats to them. To the kids. Great group of kids. um they call it chinese taipei but i want to say for all intents and purposes on this show that is taiwan taiwan won the little league world series are we about to go there i'm gonna go there i don't know why the the the crew in williamsport is just getting bent over by president xi in china and they're just ceding control of taiwan to the chinese government so that's that's taiwan It's Taiwan. Oh. I call it Taiwan. You call it Taiwan. On a map, it says Taiwan.

43:19Big Cat:I didn't know that was Taiwan. But when it's in the Little League World Series, they just say, oh, yeah, that's actually property of China. And the Olympics. And the Olympics. Yeah, the Olympics does it, too. That's Chinese Taipei. No, that's Taiwan. I'm going to go there. I recognize the sovereignty of Taiwan as a nation. And that's the country that's cheering for those kids. I didn't really watch any of the Little League World Series, but I saw that they beat America in the finals. Hank was probably very happy about that.

43:46PFT Commenter:Yeah, I don't know if it was our schedule this year, but I usually watch a little. Just missed all.

43:52Big Cat:I think the travel days, yeah. I was watching Braintree, then they got eliminated, and I kind of tuned out. Yeah, I think they had a picture that threw over 80. Chinese Taipei. Chinese Taipei did? Whoa. Taiwan. Taiwan. Taiwan. Taiwan. Taiwan. Taiwan. They won't hear this, though. Taiwan? Yeah. Will they? I think so, yeah. They can get PMT? Yeah. Shout out Taiwan. They are not They are not part of China. No. You're mixing it up. Taiwan, they can listen to part of my take. China cannot listen to part of my take. Got it. But they own Taiwan. No. Taiwan's its own country. They own America and they can tell us we have to call it Chinese Taipei.

44:33Big Cat:Is that what's happening? Big Cat's brain has been poisoned by the powers that be to think that Taiwan is owned by China. So then what are they beefing about? China wants to take Taiwan over again. They don't own any part of it right now. They don't own Taiwan. But they tell America you have to call it Chinese Taipei? They tell the Little League World Series, hey, you have to call it Chinese Taipei. And the Olympics. And the Olympics.

44:55PFT Commenter:Were people complaining online about it?

44:56Big Cat:No, I just saw it, and I got mad about it. Because, frankly, if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.

45:03PFT Commenter:Listen, I'm going to be a good team player. I'm going to follow you right now.

45:06Big Cat:Yeah, you can follow me. I'm looking at Hank now. I'm with you. Hank seems like he wants to call it Chinese Taipei. No, I'm in. Don't fucking say it. I'm in.

45:12PFT Commenter:I'm in. Taiwan. Don't say it. Zach? Zach? Yes, sir. Who won the Little League World Series today?

45:20Big Cat:Taiwan.

45:21PFT Commenter:Yep. Max?

45:23Big Cat:I think it might be Chinese Taipei. No, Max. Memes? Max is just saying that because it sounds like an awesome dish. It does. I'll take some of that Chinese Taipei. What do you get? Memes? Two orders. I thought Chinese Taipei won it.

45:40PFT Commenter:Okay.

45:40Big Cat:Shit. I think it's more complicated than you're saying. No, I don't think it is. What is Taipei? According to Microsoft Copilot, it's saying the name Chinese Taipei is used in international organizations and sporting events as a workaround to a complex political issue involving Taiwan

45:58Big Cat:and China. Because China says like... And then there's a whole lot more reading that I don't think I can do, but I don't think it's as simple as you're saying. I think it is. I think it's China being like, you have to call it Chinese Taipei or else China won't be participating. So Chinese Taipei is essentially a diplomatic placeholder, one that lets Taiwan engage globally while sidestepping. What do you know about the Nagoya Resolution, PFT? Yeah, PFT. What don't I know about the Nagoya Resolution? So does China just want the chips? They want the chips from Taiwan? They want all the chips, yeah.

46:28Big Cat:All the chips. Was regular China in it? I don't know. I don't know if they're allowed to be.

46:35PFT Commenter:I don't know any of this. You're getting us into murky waters here, PFT. Hey, get us out. I told you I'd follow you. We're out. We're out of the murky waters. They can't hear us say this. Taiwan. Okay. Taiwan. Taiwan. All right. My Who's Back of the Week. I have two. The first is ESPN deleting graphics. Yeah. I think this happened on Friday. But ESPN SportsCenter tweeted a, I think an artist did this, said all the icons, all the moments, all of ESPN, all in one place. and they ended up deleting it because all the icons, all the moments, all of ESPN, all in one place had 11 WNBA players, 10 NFL players, and five college football players, and they were missing a ton of very important, I would say, hockey.

47:24PFT Commenter:Scotty. Yeah. And also, I think they had Bryce Underwood, who just got named starter. Windhorse was on there. Scotty was missing. Good for Windhorse. Yeah, who else was missing? there was only three MLB players three NHL players Blake Bortles and look we like WNBA here but that does seem like maybe a little bit off of what people tune in for they made Luka really fat too well he's probably fat again

47:54Big Cat:old picture Luka

47:56PFT Commenter:yeah they did this before didn't they are you thinking of the Bleacher Report one

48:02Big Cat:that had all the celebrities rooting for the U.S. Women's National Team. That was a great graphic. All-time graphic.

48:07PFT Commenter:It's so funny because deleting is not going to do anything.

48:11Big Cat:No.

48:11PFT Commenter:Wendy got great real estate on this. Front and center. We love Wendy. Yeah. He is an icon. No, that's great.

48:17Big Cat:They should have like 11 Windys on there.

48:20PFT Commenter:That would work. Disclaimer, I'm about to talk about the Tooth Fairy. If you have a little kid in the car, skip ahead of this next section. The Tooth Fairy is real. All the little kids in the car, very real. And then my other who's back of the week is the Tooth Fairy because my oldest lost his first tooth. Successfully Tooth Fairy was a thrill. How much money? The Tooth Fairy only had 20s in his wallet that night. So the bar has been sent a little too high. I think, though, I've got how many teeth? It was one tooth. I've talked to some people. I think the Tooth Fairy has changed as we've gotten in a little bit of a different culture.

48:59PFT Commenter:some of the other parents I've talked to Tooth Fairy can give like sticker books and shit like that so we'll mix it up it won't be 20 every time I mean if you get a sticker book he didn't even know what 20 is he was just like actually it might be 100 now that Tommy Fleetwood won but yeah it was a problem because I got home late from what was it where were we oh Camp Barstool and he had lost a tooth he was so pumped and it was like I only had 20's in my pocket How many teeth does he have to lose? A lot, but I think once they get to eight or nine, they realize this is all.

49:35Big Cat:I think you're painting yourself into a little corner here.

49:39PFT Commenter:Yeah, I mean, it was a bad bar to set. I'll admit it. I would have rather given him$5. I did not have a five. I wasn't going to go to an ATM at 9 p.m. I think I got a dollar a tooth. I think I literally got a quarter. I think I got a dollar. Actually, no, I got a JFK, the 50-cent piece. that was solid did you guys I was totally fooled for a very long time but my parents were really good at it

50:05Big Cat:no so I had an older brother so the older brother always ruins all those surprises yeah I'm worried about that my older brother ruined Santa Claus for me one year it was the worst Christmas of all time what do you mean Max? or Christmas Eve what do you mean? you're ruining it right now there's a kid listening right now oh fuck we're just doing a segment now you're swearing too?

50:25PFT Commenter:Well, the Tooth Fairy, listen, I didn't say I was a Tooth Fairy. I said I had 20s in my pocket. The Tooth Fairy only had 20s.

50:32Big Cat:I remember my dad, we went to basketball practice. I told him, I was like, oh, the Tooth Fairy didn't come. And then we came home, and I watched him run upstairs. He came, and I was like, okay, so yeah, gigs up. I remember one time I lost a tooth in secret, didn't tell anybody. And then I got under, and then that was my first clue. Oh. Yeah.

50:52PFT Commenter:They've nerfed it, too, now. There's tooth fairy pillows and dolls that you put on the door, which is bullshit. I don't think any parent should ever buy this. It's supposed to be like you put the tooth in the little belly of the teddy bear and then you hang it on the door so the parent doesn't have to go all the way in. That's bullshit.

51:15Big Cat:Yeah.

51:15PFT Commenter:That should not be a thing. Does the kid put their tooth in the - Yeah, they put it in there and they're like, oh, the tooth fairy - What do you do with the teeth? My wife wanted to save it. That was a red flag. Just put it next to your kidney stone. I think you're supposed to. It's about the same size. Like a shark neck. I think you save it because you're like, oh, it's baby teeth. But it also is going to be weird when we just have way too many baby teeth in the bag.

51:36Big Cat:I think it's good to save the first one of each kid. Yeah, first one.

51:41PFT Commenter:Also, a genius move. Had him put it in a plastic bag because they didn't want to lose it. Plastic bag under the pillow. then I put a note in the money in a different plastic bag same plastic bag like a sandwich bag swapped it out so he thought the tooth fairy came and took the thing I gotta now tell my wife not to listen to the podcast in the car I just realized that that would be a big mistake

52:07Big Cat:so he's gonna be like it's the same plastic bag that was here yeah because he didn't see you get that bag he doesn't know that you have multiples of the same bag either way it was a thrill $20 is a steep price though

52:19PFT Commenter:What would you do in that situation? I don't have change in my house. I didn't have... I wish I had once. Yeah. Do you have any candy or something?

52:30Big Cat:Donut. A donut I don't think is going underneath. It's not going under a pillow. Hershey bar.

52:37PFT Commenter:Listen, it was first tooth, and we're going to go down. Price is going to change. He doesn't even know what it is. He doesn't know what$20 is. I think he said he was like, oh, I'll buy some new shoes. He was like, no, you won't. $20 can't do that. You won't, dude. Step it up. You don't know what that is. All right, Zach.

52:56Big Cat:My Who's Back of the Week is end zone celebrations. So rookie Tess Johnson on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers hit the end zone and then proceeded to do a full gymnastics routine. I don't have the definitions of which flips these were, but I know it was like a back handspring situation and definitely a back flip going into the end zone. Okay. And it felt good. And no flags. So we're all the way back. I felt great. I felt like we were back. And then I do have a quick one, if that's okay.

53:21PFT Commenter:Yeah.

53:22Big Cat:So eSports Awards, they had their decade.

53:27PFT Commenter:Tess Johnson's end zone celebration was the Trojan horse. Yeah. That was bullshit.

53:32Big Cat:I thought he was going to do some video game-related dance. Yeah. Why did the Bucs cut the fat guy? I think he can still lose the weight if nobody picks him up. It takes time. Dining's hard. And if he just takes a little bit more time, dials in, he could be good. I agree. They should have let him practice. Yeah, I don't understand that move. Just putting him on the sideline. He became a spectacle because everyone was like, hey, he's too big to play football. There's going to be cameras on him the entire time. Just shame him. Let him put on a helmet and some pads. Do some individual drills maybe.

54:03Big Cat:Lose some of that weight. I agree. His story is not done.

54:09PFT Commenter:I want to see him on the field.

54:11Big Cat:He's too fat.

54:12PFT Commenter:He's too fat. Too fat for football. All right. Esports award.

54:17Big Cat:So 10 years of eSports Awards. So Controller Player of the Decade went to Shotzi. He's got three chips in COD, one chip in Halo. A lot of rings. Good for Shotzi.

54:27PFT Commenter:Wait, was this the first eSports Award?

54:29Big Cat:No, it's the 10th Annual eSports Award. So Player of the Decade.

54:32PFT Commenter:Wow. So he's the first ever Player of the Decade.

54:35Big Cat:Of the eSports Awards when it comes to Controller, yes.

54:38PFT Commenter:Because it was the first decade.

54:40Big Cat:Yes, sir.

54:41PFT Commenter:Did you watch this live?

54:42Big Cat:I did not watch these live. Did you go outside this weekend? I did go outside this weekend. I went to...

54:47PFT Commenter:Don't say to Target.

54:49Big Cat:No, I know that's tomorrow. I'm going to do it tomorrow. Okay. I went and got some shoes today. Went on a nice little walk, got some shoes.

54:58PFT Commenter:Okay. Okay. I'm going to get you outside. It's going to get cold soon.

55:02Big Cat:I know. I feel like I took summer for granted because in Florida the seasons don't change and now I'm thinking like, oh, walking here today, it was 69 or 70 degrees and I was like, this is... We're still in August. What's going on? What's happening? Do you have a jacket? Yeah, I've got some hoodies. I've got to look at the pants. That's not what he said. Do you have a jacket? What do you mean? Like a jacket. Yeah, I've got... A winter jacket. Okay, so I don't have one of the big ones. I do have like a great golf-centric winter jacket that I don't know if it's thick enough, but I will be repping that pretty heavily.

55:30Big Cat:No, my advice... That was like a windbreaker.

55:31PFT Commenter:My one advice to Chicago winter for you, Zach, because this will be your first one, is spend... Don't spare any expense on a very warm winter jacket. It's just one of those things. If you get a really nice warm one, it changes everything.

55:47Big Cat:I do think the one that Hank graciously gifted me might be enough. No. Nope. No. What was that jacket, Hank? It's like a golf jacket. No, no. It was a pebble. It was the most expensive jacket in the pro shop. It's not quite. It's good for like 40 degrees and up. Once you get below that, though, you do need a real nice.

56:05PFT Commenter:You know what? I'll get you a nice one.

56:06Big Cat:Are we doing thermals, too? Like, are we doing?

56:08PFT Commenter:No, you don't have to.

56:09Big Cat:Well, you do. You need a puffer. Yeah, you can wear like a big one. A sweatshirt and then a big ass jacket. Big jacket. The big ass jacket, we checked, that just goes off. Once you're in the inside, you don't need that anymore. You're good. That's for to and from. Yeah, we got to be outside.

56:25PFT Commenter:Okay. Yeah. We should have lied to him there. Yeah. Zach never takes off his jacket. It's always have to rock it. All winter long.

56:32Big Cat:So big jacket and pants is what we're going for next.

56:34PFT Commenter:We got to get you outside more, though. Yes, sir. The weather's still nice.

56:37Big Cat:I agree.

56:38PFT Commenter:What?

56:38Big Cat:I did quite a bit of walking today, though.

56:40PFT Commenter:Saturday, you did not go outside.

56:42Big Cat:Zach lives very close to like one of the most popular streets in Chicago The reason he probably pays for his rent is that his proximity to this street I dropped him off one time two months after living here and he was like oh this is a nice street I've never seen this before like I'm saying like 0.2 miles away from his apartment It's got like great bars and restaurants Zach My defense it is the other direction from work though so I keep going left and then the street Max showed me was to the right. But it is a great street.

57:16PFT Commenter:We've got to get you outside a little bit while the weather's still nice.

57:20Big Cat:I'll do Friday, Saturday outside, both days. What? Yeah, we'll rip that. Love that. Man. I'll report back. Well, it's a three-day weekend.

57:26PFT Commenter:So that would be inside Sunday and Monday.

57:30Big Cat:Baby steps.

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1:00:32PFT Commenter:Is that right? That's correct. Maxim memes, 42. PFT and Hank, 42. So Zach and I officially cannot lose Mount Rushmore anymore. We still would like to win. so we're still going to be competing but we cannot lose it is a two horse race in terms of losing and reminder if we are tied at the end of this week next week we would have a duel which would be electric would you guys agree? I would agree I think the duel would be a duel would be maybe a best of three off the top

1:01:11Big Cat:maybe you go 1v1 1v1 2v2.

1:01:15PFT Commenter:Oh, like Ryder Cup style. I like that. Wow. Zach and I will come up with the Mount Rushmores and we just hit you guys with it and you have to go off the top of your head.

1:01:25Big Cat:Could it be a scramble? Like I'll say my pick, Hank says his, and then we take the better one. That would also be electric. Either way, I'm hoping for a duel. We had a close Mount Rushmore on Friday. It was like 1%. Yeah. Zelda got smoked. Rightfully so. Now, I did hear from a lot of Zelda freaks online on Friday. Everyone Everyone? So you must have won the poll. No, you guys just play to the graphic. What do you mean? What do you mean play to the graphic? Do your little multiplayer games. Yeah, Diddy Kong Racing was a better game than Mario Kart. You didn't draft that either? I know, but that's why I didn't draft it because it wouldn't be playing to myself if I took Mario Kart when I didn't play.

1:02:10Big Cat:Also, it's just you on the team? That was a genuine Mario Kart memes I did Mario Kart's a trash single player game I love how you said that You could beat that entire Mario Kart You could beat Mario Kart In 20 minutes So Max you like Diddy over Mario Kart You guys just never played You never had an N64 You only played at other people's houses What are you talking about That's not true That's correct for me Not for me And I said that on the things I make at friends Max is Diddy guy You took Donkey Kong Yeah Donkey Kong is a great game Diddy not so much I fucking get it You guys stupid little jokes You think you're so fucking funny I think Zelda It felt good to get that Zelda take off my chest too Yeah and so many people were trashing you for the Zelda Why didn't you win the graphic then Because everyone's a bunch of losers who just play little Mario Kart in college.

1:03:17Big Cat:Like, that's the thing. It's no one back who was really playing N64 at the time. Not real gamers. If this draft happened while the N64 was still in play, our draft would have absolutely smoked. But it's all going back, and it's all kids in college who just play Beerio Kart and do fucking bullshit. And they're like, oh, Mario Kart, your best fucking game ever on the N64. Mario Kart fucking sucked on the N64

1:03:41PFT Commenter:Wouldn't you say we didn't pander Because if we had pander we would have picked Zelda I said to Zach Before I was like I never played Zelda I don't like Zelda

1:03:52Big Cat:I will say I love Zelda But as a good teammate No way No way Hank I had the ball As a good teammate I had to support That was just being a good teammate Are you serious? You're not fucking with me? No. You actually like Zelda? Yes. That's awesome. Okay. I don't even care. That's fucking awesome. I don't know if there was a... My face was on the camera. When PFT did the... I was shocked. Okay. That's great. That's great.

1:04:23PFT Commenter:When he did the... I was like, finally I feel seen. Yeah.

1:04:26Big Cat:It's important to say it because for a long time... I've been bullied for... I had no visibility out there. Right. I've been bullied for a long time for not liking Zelda. And Max re-traumatized me on Friday by directing his followers, by weaponizing social media and telling them to go after me. Bullied me. Oh, you would never do such a thing. Never. Also, Max, thank you. Max let me out of our bet. Yeah, I got got. Sometimes you get got. A lesser man would have deleted, not me. Max let me out of our punishment on Friday because... Also, by the way, did he sign on Friday? I believe he signed and there's a secret contract.

1:04:58Big Cat:Oh, okay. There's a secret contract. I also saw Max's take, which he tweeted out and said, punishment canceled. So I don't deserve punishment. Yeah, punishment's canceled. by like Adorn Schefter. Oh, no, Max. Yeah. I saw it like immediately, but I was like, I can't do it. The worst part is you misleading our fans and our listeners, Max. Well, I got like three people that mentioned me in that being like, oh, look, it happened. Yeah. And then I didn't actually follow through. Shout out to those guys. All right. Mount Rushmore. Memes is talking for, I'm muting my mic for this. Why? Because I can't do it.

1:05:33Big Cat:No, we like having you in Mount Rushmore. No, I can't do it. This self-mute's going to last 30 seconds.

1:05:37PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right. Mount Rushmore of Hall of Very Good. Okay. Who goes for it? What's your order?

1:05:42Big Cat:It'd be PFC.

1:05:43PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:05:44Big Cat:Us. Y 'all. Okay. All right. Let's do it. So 1-1. We are going to take Donovan McNabb, Philadelphia Eagle. Good pick. Hall of Very Good. Four consecutive NFC Championship games. Never won the big one. Puked in the last drive of the Super Bowl. But, yeah, very good quarterback. Yeah. Objectively, very good.

1:06:06PFT Commenter:Very good quarterback. Had him on our list. Which one?

1:06:11Big Cat:Max? 50. Yeah. Yep, that was our 1-1 as well. Did you have the ball on Friday? Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. What's going on here? It's Hank's turn to draft. We had that as well. Yeah, we did. We did. That was a ball hog. We did. We did. Are you getting ball hogged? I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure. I'm trying to remember. That's why I didn't say it out loud. I think I had the ball on Friday. You did say it out loud. I whispered it, though, so it was out quiet. All right. How quiet. Okay.

1:06:39PFT Commenter:I said how quiet. I like that. You guys are up.

1:06:44Big Cat:We're going to go Phillip Rivers, 1-1. Okay. 1-2. I thought about him, but I think he's going to get into the Hall of Fame. Might be a Hall of Famer. But in terms of good, he only led the league in passing one time. All his passing yards, it's just from a long career. He was just a very good quarterback. He was never the best out of the entire group of quarterbacks that he was in. But if he's in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, he might be in the Hall of Fame. He's not in the Hall of Fame right now. Okay.

1:07:11PFT Commenter:All right, Zach, let's do it. Yeah, and then what are we going to go with our next pick? What do you think about maybe three? Yeah, yeah, I like that. All right, our first pick is going to be the Minnesota Vikings franchise. All very good. 65 seasons, 32 playoff appearances in 65 seasons. They've literally been to the playoffs almost exactly half the time. Ten conference championship games. The longest drought of not making the playoffs since 1968 is four seasons. So they're basically in the playoffs every year. They've never won a Super Bowl. They're the Hall of Very Good franchises. Okay. And then our second pick is going to be Above Ground Pools.

1:08:00Okay.

1:08:00PFT Commenter:Hall of Very Good. All right. Are they very good? Yeah, they're... Dude, above ground pool's very good. They're very fun.

1:08:06Big Cat:I've had a fun time in above ground. They're fine. Okay.

1:08:10PFT Commenter:I think they're very good.

1:08:12Big Cat:They might be... They're better than no pool. I think they're in the Hall of Mid.

1:08:14PFT Commenter:Okay.

1:08:15Big Cat:So much better than no pool.

1:08:16PFT Commenter:So much better than no pool. No pool, above ground pool, pools. I went... I had an above ground pool at an Airbnb. I say that like three weeks ago. It was so much fun. We were quaking the pool. You don't like it. I just don't think it's very good. I think very good is a stretch. You had a bad time in an above-ground pool? I've had a fine time. I've had a very good time in an above-ground pool.

1:08:44Big Cat:But, like, you don't have a... You don't... When you get houses, you're not looking for an above-ground pool. No, I know.

1:08:48PFT Commenter:The Hall of Fame would be a pool. I think a Hall of Fame would be a pool with a deep end. A pool... An in-ground pool is a Hall of Fame pool. Okay. You guys can disagree. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't matter. Okay.

1:09:07Big Cat:Max, memes? Yeah, it's fine.

1:09:11PFT Commenter:Okay. No, no, it's your pick. Oh, fine. Oh, yeah, memes.

1:09:15Big Cat:I'm mute. Mute? Which one? You want to do it? All right, Eli Manning. Okay.

1:09:24PFT Commenter:Wow.

1:09:25Big Cat:All right. Wow. No Pro Bowls.

1:09:29PFT Commenter:He's going to be a Hall of Famer.

1:09:31Big Cat:No, he's been to the Pro Bowl four times. Yeah, if you... Never been an All-Pro, never led the league in passing, led the league in interceptions a bunch. He was just very good. He was as good as he got. Okay. Okay. But he was great when he met. He won two Super Bowls. Yeah, that's very good. Okay. I've been told a lot over the past three months that winning a Super Bowl isn't a quarterback stat.

1:09:56PFT Commenter:Who told you that on this show? Starting or just over the last three months?

1:09:59Big Cat:I don't know how many months it's been since February, but... Close.

1:10:03PFT Commenter:Okay. You guys are up. Hank? You have two. Wait, who has the ball?

1:10:10Big Cat:Hank does. We are going to go Hall of Fame guy, rest in peace, legend, one-time All-Star, two-time World Series champion, Tim Wakefield. Oh. 200 wins. I thought you were going to go a different direction there. But you said good pick before. Yeah.

1:10:29PFT Commenter:You already gave a good pick.

1:10:31Big Cat:Yeah. This is a good pick. It is a good pick. Thank you. 1992 to 2011, 200 wins. Yeah, that's very good. Consistent. That's very good. One-time All-Star, though, but very good. And he had a thing. Knuckleball. Yeah. And then for our next pick, we are going to go with... What do you think? You got the ball. Ricky Fowler.

1:10:59PFT Commenter:Oh, okay.

1:11:00Big Cat:Good pick, Hank. Golf. Nice. Good pick, Hank. I agree. Good pick, Hank.

1:11:06PFT Commenter:I don't know Ricky Fowler's stats enough to tell you. I don't know any stats.

1:11:09Big Cat:I don't know any stats on anything. Memes, I guess, you came more prepared with stats.

1:11:13PFT Commenter:And I'd also say that Zach and I took a very different approach to this draft.

1:11:16Big Cat:Well, yeah, you guys aren't competing.

1:11:18PFT Commenter:No, I think we would have done it this way anyway.

1:11:20Big Cat:We had some that were along the same lines. Memes' stats are just like he never led the league in passing.

1:11:27PFT Commenter:The only thing he led the league in was interceptions. I mean, Eli Manning was a very good quarterback, but was he ever a top three quarterback in the league? No.

1:11:36Big Cat:No. Yeah. He was just the best big-time game quarterback for those two games. Okay.

1:11:42PFT Commenter:You guys have your pick.

1:11:46Big Cat:He's come in second Masters, third PGA Championship, second U.S. Open, second Open Championship, prolific amateur. Mm-hmm. Very good Ryder Cup, just not great. Hall of Fame guy. Hall of Fame guy. We're going to go with Mike Vick.

1:12:06PFT Commenter:It's all QBs. Yeah, all the very good boys. A lot of QBs. A lot of QBs. Okay. Do you want to make a case for him? Just a good quarterback. Okay. Very good. Very good. Yeah. All right, Zach. I think we go 4-5.

1:12:24Big Cat:I like 4-5.

1:12:25PFT Commenter:Okay. All right. Our next pick is going to be Canada as a country. Which is very good. Not Hall of Fame country. Thought about that. They're just very good. Seems pretty good. Yeah. Really good ally.

1:12:39Big Cat:Tim Hortons.

1:12:40PFT Commenter:They're just not going to be on the list of countries that really put their mark on things. Very nice. Yeah. They're very good. That's a strong country. That's a top 20 country. Is it a top? I think they're top 10. You think they're top 10? But have they ever been in history a top three country? No. No. And that's okay. They're like the Scottie Pippen of countries. They're a really good country. Yeah. Yeah.

1:13:06Big Cat:Very good country. I think it's bullshit that whenever you look at best countries, it always says Switzerland number one. I know. It is bullshit. There's something. People just say Switzerland. Yeah. What is it about Switzerland? Peace. Oh, we don't want to take a side. Yeah. The banks. Oh, this is Canada number four. The Alps. Yeah. I think Canada is a strong top 10 country. It's a good country. Very good country. I don't think they've ever been top 10.

1:13:28PFT Commenter:Yeah, but they're not a Hall of Fame country.

1:13:30Big Cat:Swiss cheese sucks.

1:13:32PFT Commenter:And they're also, I mean, they, you know, a lot of their... Chocolate.

1:13:35Big Cat:Army knives.

1:13:36PFT Commenter:I just whispered. I just whispered.

1:13:38Big Cat:He's like, you don't mean that really.

1:13:40PFT Commenter:You don't mean that. Stand on Swiss cheese. Great milk cheese for sandwiches. Yeah. All right, Zach, give us our last pick.

1:13:48Big Cat:Do you want to rip four or eight?

1:13:52Big Cat:What were we for?

1:13:53PFT Commenter:No, I mean, eight's the funny one. Do you want us to do the funny one or do you want us to do the...

1:13:57Big Cat:Where do you think is a better pick? Four's good.

1:14:00PFT Commenter:You guys decide four or eight. Which one would you rather pick? All right.

1:14:05Big Cat:We're going with eight? Yeah. We would like to take our fourth pick. We want to take titty fucking. Yeah.

1:14:10PFT Commenter:It's very good. Yeah, yeah.

1:14:11Big Cat:It is very good.

1:14:12PFT Commenter:It's a good pick. It's not Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame is sex.

1:14:16Big Cat:I would say it's less than very good. No, you're wrong. No, no.

1:14:18PFT Commenter:No, there's...

1:14:19Big Cat:Personally, that's my... Yeah.

1:14:22PFT Commenter:It's very good, but you would rather be having sex. It's never been top two. That's all the thing.

1:14:27Big Cat:I think this is kind of... No, you said it was bad. You said it sucked. No, I think I said... Overrated. No, it was... Things that are fun to try once. Things that are fun to try once, which is the perfect way to describe shitty fucking. No, that's wrong. It's the perfect way to describe shitty fucking. No, it's fun to do multiple times. It's something that you get so excited when you're like a teen. You're like, oh, I can't wait to put my dick in some titties. Then you do it and it's like, this doesn't feel as good as it should. That was a fuck. It sounds bad. That sounded really bad. You actually made it seem worse, yeah.

1:15:02Big Cat:Yeah. I don't think I'll ever want to titty fuck again after hearing Max describe it. I'm just going to be thinking about it. Every time the thwack, it's just going to be Max's hands sitting together. Oh, man. You put your dick in there once.

1:15:13PFT Commenter:I think Titty Fucking is very good Not Hall of Fame I agree

1:15:18Big Cat:It's top three Back to mute Back to mute Back to mute

1:15:21PFT Commenter:Do you guys like that pick Hank? It's a good pick Yeah Okay You got nothing for me It's like I said Ricky Fowler

1:15:34Big Cat:Ricky Fowler is not

1:15:35PFT Commenter:Yeah I don't know Ricky Fowler There's more measurables I think if you

1:15:38Big Cat:Which is fine You deserve it You guys have been mathematically non-eliminated So you can have fun with it I think titty fucking is way better than above ground pools Okay Yeah way better Disagree Above ground pools you can basically do the same thing It's just the optics don't look as good With titty fucking in An above ground pool That's actually a great time Yeah it's probably better

1:16:02PFT Commenter:I mean we do have The Vikings above ground pools Titty fucking in Canada If you're titty fucking in an above ground pool in Canada You're having a very good time. Yeah. You're not having the best. You would rather be having sex in a hot tub in America. That would be Hall of Fame. Oh, yeah. So we just described, yeah, watching the Vikings. You just described a very good time. That's not, you know there's something more. I'd rather be doing all that in America while watching the Bills. Yeah. So, yeah, I feel strong about our very good.

1:16:35Big Cat:I feel good about our very good.

1:16:36PFT Commenter:All fun things. All very good.

1:16:39Big Cat:I feel very good about your very good. Yeah.

1:16:43Big Cat:Who's up? We are up. We're going to stick on the quarterback. Julian Edelman. Okay. See, also shoots for Hall of Famer. No. Yeah. No. You got my vote, Jules. Good guy, Hank. Very good. Very good. Very good. Very good wide receiver. Yeah. Super Bowl MVP. Very, very good. If they voted playoffs only, he'd definitely get in. Also, punt returner. Punt returner. Podcaster. Friend. Podcaster is probably Hall of Famer. Defensive back. Podcast guest, definitely Hall of Famer. Definitely Hall of Famer. Friend. Friend, for sure. Hall of Famer. Actor. Hall of Famer. Model. Hall of Famer.

1:17:25PFT Commenter:Nurse trapper.

1:17:27Big Cat:Hall of Famer. Steroid user? Nope. Nope. Nope. Not. Yep. Not steroid. Definitely not the steroid Hall of Fame. Nope. Nope. That's actually a great Hall of Fame. The all steroids Hall of Fame. That would be. Julian, would you do that? Did we? Might have done that. I think we might have. Okay. Steroid Hall of Fame would rip.

1:17:49PFT Commenter:Yeah, maybe we'll do that.

1:17:51Big Cat:Last pick, we're going to go with Hines Ward.

1:17:53PFT Commenter:Oh. Okay, so Tony Romo didn't get picked. I'm shocked. We had it on the list.

1:17:58Big Cat:Good point. We had it on the list.

1:18:00PFT Commenter:Yeah, because that was our only player we were thinking about taking was Tony Romo.

1:18:04Big Cat:Yeah, but Tony Romo. He is like a. But fuck Tony Romo. Yeah, but he's like old and bad. Yeah, I don't want Tony Romo on my list. No.

1:18:15PFT Commenter:Okay, here's the rest of our list. You guys tell us if any of these. So I wanted to make the case. I think chicken is in the Hall of Very Good.

1:18:23Big Cat:Disagree. I think it's the Hall of Fame. Chicken wings? Yeah. Fried chicken. The numbers. The numbers. It's tough to argue the numbers for chicken.

1:18:31PFT Commenter:I understand, but when you go, hey, we're going to have a really nice dinner. It's going to be a steak dinner.

1:18:37Big Cat:Numbers are numbers.

1:18:37PFT Commenter:In the Hall of Fame. Very good is very good. That means it's very, very good. Chicken wings alone should put that in the Hall of Fame.

1:18:44Big Cat:Also, all of your arguments against Julian Edelman, Hines Ward is the exact same.

1:18:50PFT Commenter:Oh, go for it.

1:18:51Big Cat:Go. You just said Super Bowl champion, Super Bowl MVP, also Hines Ward. Yeah. I had to fact check my thoughts before I let him rip.

1:19:00PFT Commenter:Who has more yards? Look it up. Look up their stats.

1:19:03Big Cat:Well, also, Hines Ward not in the Hall of Fame. Julian Edelman might still get in the Hall of Fame. We don't know. But look at their stats. Let's figure this out. Let's move on. All right. We had Toyota Camry.

1:19:19PFT Commenter:That's just a very good car. It is a very good car. It's very dependable, very good car, but it's not a Hall of Fame car. 5 '11". That's a height. I would say probably Hall of Fame numbers. It's all very good. Because if you're 5 '11", you can say you're 6 feet. But you know you're not. Yeah. We had bacon on pizza. I like that call because it's not... You kind of want it to be pepperoni or sausage,

1:19:45Big Cat:but it's still good. It's still very good. You're not upset about that as a topping, but it also feels much fatter if you're going up and ordering a bacon pizza rather than a pepperoni, even though it's probably not any different. I think that the bacon messes up the consistency of the pizza. Yeah. It makes it too crunchy. But a chicken bacon ranch is great. That is good. That's excellent.

1:20:08PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. Six beers. Six beers. Very good.

1:20:15Big Cat:Six beers is a good number.

1:20:16PFT Commenter:Yeah, but it's also like you're never going to have a Hall of Fame night with six beers. Great point.

1:20:20Big Cat:I also don't think I've ever drank six beers.

1:20:23PFT Commenter:Right. But it's like a good drunk, but it's not like, hey, we're having the best time.

1:20:27Big Cat:I think I've had four or five beers. What's the worst number of beers? And I have definitely had like seven or eight beers. But once you hit six, it's like you've got a choice to make.

1:20:37PFT Commenter:Yeah. 20 minute naps very good but you're also like I wish you know Hall of Fame Hall of Fame naps that's another thing I hate when people are like

1:20:46Big Cat:oh 20 minutes is the most optimal number of time for a nap that's a real nap

1:20:54PFT Commenter:granola bars dipped in chocolate yeah it is good

1:21:00Big Cat:very good by the way for the record Heinz Ward has double the amount of yards as Julian Edelman not double the amount of heart

1:21:07PFT Commenter:or podcast appearances on this correct the last one you had Zach why don't you make your case 12 and then I'm going to trigger you guys with something Zach said to me he's dreading this

1:21:20Big Cat:flip flops no no so flip flops you know I wouldn't say the best lounge footwear but also something you can't go wrong with that's crazy you like them yes I'm not a big flip flop yeah I own one pair that I bought under duress because I forgot my other beach shoes at home. So I was like, these will do in a pinch. Don't really love them.

1:21:42PFT Commenter:Make your case for the other two that our other players were Jay Cutler and Sean Marion. Both Halls. Sean Marion is a great pick, but NBA is

1:21:54Big Cat:so hard. It's like everyone is a Hall of Famer. Steve Francis.

1:21:58PFT Commenter:Franchise. Kyle Korver.

1:22:00Big Cat:Mark Sotomayor. Kyle Korver's a good one. Kirk Heinrich. John Wall. John Wall. But John, yeah.

1:22:09PFT Commenter:Zach, make your case for the other two. He's in the hall of could have been great. And then I'm going to trigger you guys. Then I want to hear your guys' honorable mentions. You talking about apple pie? Oh, no. I was saying pulled pork and acai bowls.

1:22:19Big Cat:Oh, acai bowls, good, but definitely not great when it comes to, like, frozen kind of dessert, healthier options you can get. And then pulled pork. They're also not healthy. Yeah, they're not. Tons of sugar. Yeah. Yeah. And then pulled pork, I was hesitant on that. I felt at first that pulled pork is just good, but then I started thinking about pulled pork as a sandwich element. And when you start melting cheese, you start dipping in au jus, then I don't know. I'm not as strong on that once I started thinking about the versatility of pulled pork. You're thinking of like a roast pork sandwich.

1:22:47PFT Commenter:You might be.

1:22:48Big Cat:Pulled pork is like the barbecue pulled pork. But it kind of works for barbecue because you wouldn't say like brisket is the Hall of Fame. You ever done like pulled pork sliders where you do like the cheese and the wine roll? Delicious. I've done that with like roast pork, like Philly-style sandwiches with like broccoli rabe or spinach. Carolina-style pulled pork. And dipping in the au jus with the melted provolone. That's top tier sandwich. I would put Carolina-style pulled pork in the hall of fame. It's a great barbecue meat. Yeah, it is a good meat. Last year we did so much food, and that's why I was so good at it.

1:23:19PFT Commenter:Yeah. That is true. You're a food merchant? Do you guys want to get triggered by something Zach said to me? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay, so we were talking players because we were like, let's throw out a couple players just for honorable mentions. We're going to take this draft a different way, but we just wanted to brainstorm some players. He had one good running back pick and one that made me want to punch him in his face. The good pick was Tiki Barber. That's a whole very good guy. Do you guys want to guess who I wanted to punch? He said this name, and I wanted to punch him in the face.

1:23:53Big Cat:Barry Sanders. No. OJ. No

1:23:58PFT Commenter:LaDainian Tomlinson was his all very good And I got furious at him

1:24:04Big Cat:Where's Shane? Is he in the Hall of Fame?

1:24:06PFT Commenter:Yes, he's not only in the Hall of Fame But if you watch LaDainian Tomlinson He was so electric For that stretch

1:24:14Big Cat:You make a run as a child And then you almost think about yourself being LT And then you didn't bring that up Terrible choice He was good on the Jets, Hank He was

1:24:25PFT Commenter:He was so So fast So good I actually think that we're Was he good on the Jets?

1:24:31Big Cat:I don't know the way you said that though You put some stank on that Hank He was good on the Jets Hank We didn't always suck We had a couple good years

1:24:41PFT Commenter:Ladanian Thomas is one of those guys I actually think that we need to like Put a date on the calendar to remember how good he was Because he was so good Watch the highlight reels of LT Insane Dude, he had a year where I just won my entire fantasy season just because I had him. That was it. If he wasn't scoring the touchdown on his feet, he was throwing passes. Yeah, he was catching and throwing them. What is the – give me the year. I think it was like 06, I want to say.

1:25:09Big Cat:1 ,800 yards, 28 touchdowns.

1:25:12PFT Commenter:That's insane. Yeah, that's the year. 1 ,800 yards, 28 touchdowns. and the years before he had 17 18 i mean he was 31 total touchdowns that year 31 31 i do remember

1:25:27Big Cat:like fucking insane like fantasy football if you had the daniel thompson you just won yeah like no

1:25:32PFT Commenter:that was the year i had him and i was like i it might have been one of the first years i played it i was just like this is the easiest thing ever because you just draft lt and then you're good

1:25:42Big Cat:and uh what did you say i'm pretty sure laden thomas in nfl street too he's he's so fast and

1:25:49PFT Commenter:official they got him in a bulletproof vest hold on 2006 he had 33 touchdowns he ran for 28 he

1:25:57Big Cat:caught three he passed for two that's insane that's insane i i that's on me i looked past the passing one of the best years like ever so yeah zach that made me upset but that's okay

1:26:10PFT Commenter:No, it's okay. It's okay. All right, what do you guys have honorable mentions? I'm shocked Tony Romo didn't get picked.

1:26:16Big Cat:It's probably because PFT and I were on the other two teams.

1:26:19PFT Commenter:But he is the definition. I just don't want him. I think Tony Romo sucks. But he's the poster boy of hollow very good.

1:26:25Big Cat:We had Matt Ryan. Yeah. Although he won an MVP, but yeah. He did. We had clam chowder. Ooh.

1:26:33PFT Commenter:It might be a Hall of Fame suit. I don't know.

1:26:36Big Cat:I got his Hall of Fame. Manhattan clam chowder. Manhattan's trash. No, I think Manhattan is very good. No, I don't think it's that good. I think the cream base, it's always good. Yeah, well, you were fat, so. What? Fatter your soup, Manhattan soup. Are you talking to yourself? Manhattan soup is a lighter soup.

1:26:54PFT Commenter:Is this an inner dialogue that you have?

1:26:56Big Cat:I don't know. I always feel fat. That was great because it completely befuddled me. I didn't know what to say.

1:27:03PFT Commenter:You just crossed the floor. There you go.

1:27:04Big Cat:That was a trick play you just said. Max, shut the fuck up, you short piece of shit. This is good Okay what else We had Keith Yandel Oh Yeah All very good 1100 games 600 points But he's a Hall of Fame guy Hall of Fame guy We had Connor McDavid Yeah All very good Yeah We had Matt Stafford

1:27:31PFT Commenter:All very good I think he's a Hall of Famer I've been standing on that for a while

1:27:35Big Cat:Yeah that's really the only reason we put it on the list Yeah Pirates of the Caribbean movies

1:27:41PFT Commenter:I'm not familiar I love the porn

1:27:45Big Cat:I didn't even know We didn't even think that that was an option To go outside of sports players That's immediately what I thought of You thought of the porn? Yeah, Stagnan's Revenge Oh, gotcha Yeah, Pirate Simon We had JFK Was he all Career cut short Yeah

1:28:02PFT Commenter:CTE

1:28:04Big Cat:VH1

1:28:05PFT Commenter:VH1 That's a good pick I like that Kyle Korver

1:28:10Big Cat:What do you guys think about cake? I thought about doing chocolate cake I just think it's tough when it's like These are subjective like the Hall of Fame It's based on numbers like cake Just racks up It's hard to like when it comes

1:28:25PFT Commenter:Like Hall of Fame desserts is cake in there?

1:28:28Big Cat:It's Yeah I think it has to be because you got Wedding cake you got birthday cake It is a workhorse You can also put so many things into Like cookie cake, cookie cake is delicious Ice cream cake

1:28:39PFT Commenter:Well ice cream cake is ice cream

1:28:41Big Cat:I know but it's technically cake Yeah but it's ice cream Is it cake?

1:28:44PFT Commenter:Is it cake Shane did you hear what just happened?

1:28:51Big Cat:Yeah I heard it What are your thoughts? It's crazy Shane I had your back

1:28:58PFT Commenter:I got I got visibly upset at him

1:29:02Big Cat:What jersey do you think he's going to wear into the Hall of Fame?

1:29:05PFT Commenter:Well, he already is in the Hall of Fame.

1:29:07Big Cat:Great question. He's legitimately top five running back of all time. What did you think about Philip Riverspeck? I mean, yeah. That's like the all very good guy. Got carried by LT. Yeah. Some are saying. Yeah. We had a couple baseball players. Prince Fielder was a good one. He had a stretch there. He was just fun. He was just fun to watch. Madison Bumgarner. Ooh. Tim Lincegum. Madison Bumgarner is a horse. His career numbers are not a Hall of Fame numbers.

1:29:42PFT Commenter:Like, he was awesome in the playoffs, but he was not. I don't think he had nearly enough wins.

1:29:48Big Cat:No. Madison Bumgarner is still like 35. Not Rushmore guys you want to go to battle with. Oh, yeah, definitely.

1:29:54PFT Commenter:He's up there for sure. He's just like the best guy that you would think of. 134 wins. He's way short. But wins don't really matter that much. They're only doing the Hall of Fame for baseball Hall of Fame. They shouldn't. I agree, but they do. You know they do.

1:30:10Big Cat:Like, he's 36. Like, there are plenty of pitchers that are 36 still pitching. Yeah. And, like, you haven't thought about him for – he just had such a great stretch of playoff appearances where he was so dominant, but he just doesn't have the career to be a Hall of Famer. We had Steve McNair. That's what I thought when you were, like, RIP, I thought you were going Steve McNair.

1:30:31PFT Commenter:That's a good pick. That's a really good pick

1:30:33Big Cat:Andrew Luck Yeah Oh fuck we forgot about him Yeah I think he was great though Career cut short Yeah Yeah He's another one that is just What could have been He could have been a Hall of Famer

1:30:46PFT Commenter:He said it himself when he was on the show He's in the Hall of Very Good Who?

1:30:51Big Cat:Curt Schilling I mean Curt Schilling If we're just talking

1:30:55PFT Commenter:Better baseball player than Guy Should be in the Hall of Famer Yeah But he did Remember when we had him on he said that He was like he went through a list of people and then he said his name and we're like, he's like, yeah, I'm in the Hall of Very Good. Which is a great place to be.

1:31:07Big Cat:Very good place. No disrespect, which is why Hall of Very Good is awesome. Yeah. It's too much respect. Because yes, disrespect. Yes.

1:31:17PFT Commenter:All the disrespect.

1:31:18Big Cat:We have Marshawn Lynch, Brandon Marshall, Cam Newton to top it off.

1:31:24PFT Commenter:Jay Cutler. Personal pick. Yeah, I think that's a personal pick.

1:31:30Big Cat:Chad Pennington

1:31:31PFT Commenter:Chad Pennington personal pick

1:31:33Big Cat:Chad Pennington actually is like noodle arm I would put Clinton Portis in there too Vinny Teston we're just doing Jets now Clinton Portis, Champ Bailey trade that was like the first blockbuster trade I remember as a kid Champ Bailey was so fucking good think about that trade now it's crazy that would never happen No. Like the best running back for the best corner in the league?

1:32:00PFT Commenter:Never happens. Never. What means? No. I got nothing.

1:32:05Big Cat:Winker bet.

1:32:07PFT Commenter:Okay. Another jet. There we go. Better football player than human. Yeah. All right. Good Mount Rushmore. So we'll see. We have two more after this, and we'll see if we get to a duel. What happens? All right. Let's get to our interview with Mike Florio. We're going to talk some football with Florio.

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1:33:26PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on our very, very, very, very good friend. It is Mike Florio, pro football talk author, and we're getting ready for the NFL season. We have the clock right in front of us. We're 10 days away as we're recording this. Please, everyone, go buy his new book. It's called Big Shield. You can buy it on Amazon right now. It's out. It's incredible. There's no such thing as easy money. Carson Jeffrey thought otherwise. It allowed him to supplement his pay as a third string pro quarterback with cash from the mob for providing inside information before and during game. This book actually does sound right up my alley.

1:34:06PFT Commenter:You said that, and I was like, yeah, whatever, dude, whatever. You wrote this book for us. If you ever read a book, this will be the one you read. This sounds awesome. Yeah, it is. And you know what? It's doing really well, to my amazement. and it's only 99 cents for the ebook so you can't i mean really find something that's cheaper than 99 cents i i'm i'm a fucking idiot for selling it for 99 cents and for various other reasons but but you can steal it from me for 99 cents and it really is good despite the fact that i wrote it you will enjoy it he's he's giving it away for free please awls help him out we love mike uh i

1:34:43Big Cat:did really enjoy the other book that he wrote quarterback of the future that i still own that book, Mike, and it's a page turner. Have you ever gone back and read it? Can I tell you something that there is, and I don't, I don't want to speak out of school here, but, but there is some Hollywood interest in the concept of quarterback of the future. And I have actually, I have actually written a script that is completely different from the book. Cause I went back and looked at at an old yearbook. And I just like, you know what? I remember enough of the story. I'll rewrite the whole thing. So I wrote the script and we made a pitch and you never know.

1:35:26You never know.

1:35:27Big Cat:If it gets made into a movie, can me and big get have a cameo on that? Cause we got squeezed out of happy Gilmore. Please, please. Oh, you guys are supposed to be in happy Gilmore too. No, it felt like every other podcast was in it. So, but no, I think that more had to do with Rob Schneider aspect. You're not friends with Rob Schneider. Are you? No. Okay, good. We're good. We're good. Put us in the movie. What happened to Rob Schneider? Wait, what did you guys do to Rob Schneider?

1:35:48PFT Commenter:We might have said that every time he releases a movie, an oil spill happens, and he didn't understand the joke. It's our friend Nick Turan. He wrote the blog. He didn't understand the joke that there's an oil spill basically every day in the world, and you could find it. So he just wrote a blog being like, did you know every time Rob Schneider has a new movie, there's an oil spill? Didn't find it funny. Didn't find it funny. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I find it unfunny not because I'm offended. I just don't think it's very funny. Well, you should read the blog. He's a guy from Wheeling who wrote the blog.

1:36:22Then it's automatically funny. Anything anyone from Wheeling does is automatically awesome.

1:36:26PFT Commenter:That's facts. All right, Mike, let's talk some football. Let's ease into it. Let's start with an easy question. Are the Cleveland Browns racist? Oh, that's good. Yeah, that's a softball to get things started. People are mad about Shador, which I don't really understand.

1:36:41Big Cat:he was well they told their offensive line don't block as hard yeah if there's a black quarterback in don't block as hard for him as when dylan gabriel's in yeah this whole thing is crazy to

1:36:51PFT Commenter:me he was a fifth round draft pick like he he dropped he's it's not like a he's not he was supposed to start now he's not starting it's just a organizational chart of where you are in the you know in the depth chart here's what happened back in the pre-draft run up and the combine and the interviews and all of that stuff. And I try to stay away from that because different people will try to manipulate the news to get certain agendas out there. I wait until the dust settles on where guys get drafted and then I try to figure out what happened. I was told by a very reliable source, not to be confused with my usual non-reliable sources, that the attitude from Shador Sanders that was detected by the teams was that he was being recruited, not interviewed.

1:37:36And I think that may rub people the wrong way because the teams have this mindset of you are coming to us and trying to get us to draft you as high as possible. It shouldn't be we're trying to win you over. And that coupled with the fact that he's not Dion. That's the problem. You can't show up for the pre-draft process with the attitude of, hey, take me or don't take me. I don't care unless you are a transcendent talent like his father is. And he didn't have an agent. He didn't have anyone advising him on how to properly handlet. So he fell to pick number 144. And the Browns gave him limited reps in training camp.

1:38:12He had that one preseason game where he looked really good. They're probably going to carry four guys into the regular season, or at least beyond Tuesday when they have to cut the rosters down, because they viewed it as a commodity. Hey, we can get this guy at 144 that is much better than pick number 144. So we add him to our quarterback room. We have an asset at the quarterback position, and we can do something with these assets at some point. I think they're going to try to trade maybe kenny pickett before tuesday and if they can't they'll carry four guys until maybe they can trade one of these guys i wouldn't rule out trading shador sanders i don't know what they're going to do at this point but they view their four quarterbacks as assets that can be flipped it's buy low sell high they bought shador sanders low and now at some point they may try to sell him high i don't see him playing anytime soon but maybe they can flip him into something more than the fifth round pick they use to get it yeah so what do you think the market

1:39:02Big Cat:it would be for Shador Sanders right now? Do you think it'd be higher than a fifth? Well, I think if there's a team out there that was thinking about taking him round three and they saw him play in the preseason and they saw enough from him and look, he doesn't have high end physical ability, but he's got great instincts. He knows how to step away from pressure. He knows when to throw the ball. He knows where to place the ball. He's got something you can work with. So if there's a team out there that, that thinks, you know, we really were close to using a third round pick. We could use a guy we want to develop and we're willing to part ways with a fourth round pick or a third round pick next year to try to get him.

1:39:37I couldn't rule it out if the Browns are looking for a way to trim their quarterback room from four down to three. And technically they have five because one of these days, Deshaun Watson is going to show up with a clean bill of health and say, play me. He's determined to come back and play. And that just creates an even bigger mess for the Browns because they'll either have to put him on the roster at that point or they'll have to

1:39:55Big Cat:cut him yeah i mean it doesn't sound like it's got a clean ending at all so i have another question about the team that's right behind you you are a vikings homer you're a vikings fan uh at the quarterback position what are the vikings do are they trying to send a message right now that jj he's our guy like we're just going to roll into the season we don't want a quarterback that might be behind him that maybe somebody would ever claim like hey let's start this guy instead of JJ, if he has a bad couple of weeks. I don't think that's a problem. I think the problem recently was they don't have a guy behind him that they trust to be the number two quarterback.

1:40:30So they scrapped Sam Howell. They cut Brett Rippon. They sign Carson Wentz and it's going to be JJ McCarthy, Carson Wentz and Max Brosmer. Now they may cut Brosmer and hope he passes through waivers and put him on the practice squad. But if they're afraid somebody will claim him on waivers and they really like him, then they'll carry him on the roster. But this was just a vote of no confidence for Sam Howell. Too many turnovers. And he had, you know, months to learn the offense and months to impress Kevin O 'Connell. And he clearly didn't. I think in hindsight, they'd admit they should have just signed Carson Wentz back in April and let him learn the offense and be there for the offseason program, be there for training camp, be there for the preseason.

1:41:08Now he's going to have to take a crash course. And hell, I won't be surprised if they make other moves because we've seen what they can do when they have to put other quarterbacks out there. But I think this is all an indication that McCarthy is the guy. And he looked great in one preseason game. He's got to stay healthy. But that's the question mark. If he's not healthy, you've got to have somebody ready to go. They weren't happy with their options behind him.

1:41:27Big Cat:So have there been any cuts across the league that have surprised you that Mike Florio did not see coming? So far, no. Not yet. Tuesday's the day that we'll see some surprises. And before Tuesday, what we'll see, and we've seen it for the last week, guys getting traded for low-round picks next year. Those are guys that are going to get cut.

1:41:44PFT Commenter:Yep. You're seeing a trade happen now. for a seventh round pick or the flip of a six and a seven. I'll trade you this guy with a seven and you give me a six back. That's a guy that was getting cut. And the teams that are low in the waiver priority, like the Eagles who are at the very bottom, they're not going to get those guys if they're eligible for waiver claims. If you're four years or less, you go through waivers. Otherwise you're a free agent. But this is a way to go out and get that guy, give up a low round pick and get a guy who's going to be cut anyway. And you've got some teams that have a surplus at certain positions and other teams that have needs so i expect we'll see more trades between now and tuesday and then it'll be all hell breaking loose when the rosters go like that there used to be two steps now it goes 90 to 53 there's gonna be a lot of names that hit the market in the next two days is there a name that we should be on the lookout for well that's a good question which means i'm trying to buy time it doesn't mean good question that's because i've learned that's what people say

1:42:37Big Cat:when they don't have an immediate no no that was a good question great question is what you say to by time hey don't hey hey are you coming at pft right now that was a good question i'm not i mean it's i mean it's family there's no are you stepping to us you know how this is done mike i get you to say a famous player's name and then we make clicks because we put out a clip of the interview and it's like oh mike florio predicts this guy's gonna get cut no no thanks mike we'll fuck you up bro yeah listen listen i thought we were at a point where we could have fun like this no that

1:43:06PFT Commenter:That was a good question. Okay. I know, but I was just playing. Thank you. This is what family does. We play a little bit. I don't think – we don't play like that. Not with good questions. A clown to you? Yeah. Do I amuse you? Okay.

1:43:21Big Cat:So as for PFT's good question – Please address my question. I'm not giving you the social media blurb where I guarantee that Aaron Rodgers is going to get cut on Tuesday. I'm not going to do that. You would love that.

1:43:34PFT Commenter:We could just – you just did. Yeah, you and Aaron Rodgers. You said Aaron Rodgers is going to get cut on Tuesday.

1:43:42Big Cat:Mike Florio's take that's too hot for part of my take. He doesn't even want to say it. You know, I wonder what the Giants are going to do, though, at quarterback. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if either Jameis Winston or Russell Wilson get traded. How do you take both of those guys and your first-round pick who looks like he's ready to go? How do you take all three of those guys into the regular season? That's a sitcom waiting to happen. Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston, and Jackson Dart. I won't be surprised. Not that they're going to get cut, but I won't be stunned if one of those two guys gets traded between now and Tuesday.

1:44:12There's something for you you can put on social media.

1:44:14Big Cat:I like that. I like that. No one else? No other big names? No, no, no.

1:44:20PFT Commenter:Okay. Mike, question for you. Micah Parsons, he's going to sign right before Thursday Night Football, correct? I don't know. I really don't. And it's possible that the ship has sailed, that he means what he said. It's been 23 days ago now that he posted that lengthy message on social media saying that he wants to be traded. He's done nothing to rescind that. Jerry Jones has gone from saying something to saying nothing to really stepping in shit, I believe, the other night with Michael Irvin. And it's possible, it's possible if they make him the offer that he otherwise would have taken between now and the first game of the season, it's possible he'll say, what part of I want to be traded didn't you understand?

1:45:03And he'll just get through this season. He'll play maybe as little as he can, citing the back injury that's kept him out of training camp in the preseason. He'll put in his time and he'll wait to be traded. And from the Cowboys perspective, you know, if you trade him for a couple of first round picks, well, you're not getting them now. So I think the Cowboys want to try to kick the can on all of this through the season and then figure it all out in March. And they'd love to get him to play for$24 million this year,$17 million below the market. They're daring him to not play. They're daring him to say, my back is keeping me from playing.

1:45:33I'm going to deny myself the thing I love just to send a message to the Cowboys. But remember this. I mean, he's represented by David Muligeta. And when Jalen Ramsey decided several years ago he wanted out of Jacksonville, he just stopped playing. He just stopped playing. And they eventually traded. So it all depends on how badly Michael wants out of Dallas. I wouldn't assume that they're going to get a deal done by next Thursday. I don't think the Cowboys want to do it. I think the Cowboys, every once in a while, you'll hear Jerry Jones say he's under contract. He's under contract. I think the Cowboys want to ride out this last year of his rookie contract.

1:46:05Big Cat:Now, there have been teams that have obviously called the Cowboys to inquire about a trade, right? Has Dallas, have they taken those calls? Well, there's been no chatter whatsoever about any trade talk. So my guess is, and the Cowboys, I think, don't want to turn this into a thing by acknowledging it. So they're not going to tell the world that this team called, that team called, that team called. But, you know, if I'm the Bills or the Ravens and I'm serious about catching the Chiefs, why wouldn't I make that call? If I give up two first round picks, they're going to be late first round picks.

1:46:33Why wouldn't I make that call and see what it takes to get Micah Parsons? I just don't think the Cowboys are entertaining it. Jerry Jones brushed it off as a negotiating ploy the day after Micah asked to be traded. They want to keep him. They just want to keep him on their terms. They want to keep him for$24 million this year. They want to have the right to franchise tag him next year at far less than market value. And then maybe they'll do it another time. Jerry basically said that the other night to Michael Irvin. All right.

1:46:58Big Cat:So staying in the division, my commanders, I reported that Terry was probably going to sign a contract last Wednesday. And then I changed my report to last Friday. My report now is that he did, in fact, sign on Friday. It's a secret contract. And we don't know about it yet, but they're going to release the details of the secret contract soon. What are you hearing out of Terry's camp and from the commanders? Well, you know, the market has gone up north of 40 million with Jamar Chase. and Terry McLaurin is due to make about$16 million this year. Now, you'll hear people say from time to time, no, he's making$25 million.

1:47:31Well, his cap number's$25 million. When you look at the actual cash he's going to receive this year, I know he's got bonus allocations that apply this year and drive the cap number up. But from his perspective, he's making$16 million. And the market's at$41 or just over$40. What am I going to get? Where do I fit in? And I've heard numbers north of 30. I've heard numbers north of 35. The commanders, what are you going to pay a receiver who is going to be 30 in September? And I think this is the key. How many years do you want to commit? We always hear five-year deal worth X million a year. What we don't hear right out of the gates, because it's usually not as favorable as the biggest number that they can put out there, which is the total value of the deal, how much of it is guaranteed at signing?

1:48:13How many years have the commanders committed to? Because we know how these contracts are. They're not two-way. The player's stuck. The team can tear it up anytime they want. The only thing that keeps the team from doing it is guarantees that go beyond the first year. Is it two years that he wants? Is it three years that he wants? Where's the middle ground on what kind of commitment they're going to make to a guy who's going to turn 30 because you have to brace for the decline. And that's what I think the root of this is. It's not what he's already done. It's what he's going to do going forward.

1:48:41And at what point is father time going to start to erode his skills? That's why they don't have a deal.

1:48:47Big Cat:Do you think that they're going to get a deal done soon though? Do you think that this is going to be because like I heard the report too that he was asking for DK Metcalf money I don't think that the team is going to I don't think any team in the NFL right now would give him the DK Metcalf contract uh or that's to say nothing about like the Jamar Chase deal or anything like that do you think that it gets done this week well I think something's got to happen this week here's why every hold in has to end at some point if you hold out that puts maximum pressure on the team to get it done if you're there if you're at work at some point it's time to go to work now he's He's citing an injury.

1:49:22And one of these days, a team is going to challenge a player as to whether or not he's actually got that injury. But that's the safest way to avoid the potential blow up between player and team where the team just says, like the Steelers very well may have said to Cam Hayward last week, look, it's time to get ready for week one. And that's the issue with Terry McLaurin and with Michael Parsons. You got to get back in time to get ready for the first game. You can't just sign on Saturday and play on Sunday or you're potentially going to get injured. So they need to make something happen this week or he's not going to be ready to go week one.

1:49:57And, you know, the other question is, what does the team really think about the injury that had him on the physically unable to perform list and has him still not practicing? And look at how the commanders have handled their business here. They haven't said anything.

1:50:09Big Cat:Yeah. Contrast that with Jerry Jones, who can't shut up about it. So I'd like to think at some point between now and, say, next Sunday, the commanders make an offer and he realizes, I can't say no to this. It's going to be more than what he's due to make. And if he if he says no to it, then it goes away. So I'd like to think they'll get something done. But it all depends on how committed he is to get 35 or north of 35 million per year in a new money average.

1:50:36PFT Commenter:See, PFT was, I mean, joking a little bit about the secret contract. I actually think Jerry Jones might do the secret contract because wouldn't you say Jerry Jones loves the splash? Is there a chance that Micah Parsons might be in the closed parts of practices and, you know, whenever when the media is not around, he is showing that he's up to speed and that this contract is going to happen on the first day of the NFL season so that he can get his big splash? I'm not sure very much, if anything, right now. Now, one thing I'm sure of is there's no way that the Cowboys and Micah Parsons are secretly in cahoots on anything.

1:51:11Big Cat:Okay. I just don't think they are. And I'll tell you why. A couple of weeks ago, they had the Hollywood premiere of the new Netflix series about the Cowboys. And I had heard that the Cowboys were planning to make him some massive new offer in the hopes of getting the deal done as part of the PR push. This is Cowboys Playboy.

1:51:32PFT Commenter:Right. They don't operate like a real team. Yeah. Right. And I ran that by some folks in the know. And that's where I got this impression. You know, the ship may have sailed. It may be over. It may be done. Now, I think it's very different when they put the money in front of Michael Parsons. If they ever offer him 45 million per year and a new money average, he might decide that goes a long way toward smoothing things over and moving forward. But right now, his mindset is, I mean, look at his demeanor the other night. Every guy on the sideline who wasn't playing had on his jersey. Parsons didn't.

1:52:02And there was that that period of time and it wasn't very long but it was long enough for a thousand pictures of it to be taken of him laying on the table looking like he doesn't want to be there you know whatever jerry's doing to try to break this log jam it's getting worse not better and i think those comments from thursday i don't think they've gotten enough attention i i think that that they did far more harm than good and it's going to make it even harder to repair the relationship with michael Parsons.

1:52:28PFT Commenter:Okay. All right. So let's do off of current events. Let's do a little NFL preview here. Give me the five players. I assume most will be quarterbacks, but it could be someone else. Five players with the most pressure on them this season. You know, I felt like you were setting me up for a fantasy. No, I wasn't. I wasn't. I'm always on guard this time of year. We haven't done that in years, Mike. And also, Mike, I don't know. I know. I know you about it every year. I don't know if you listen. We did a 10-hour fantasy preview on Friday. We're still jet lagged from that. Okay.

1:53:00Big Cat:We've, we've just conveniently transitioned all the shit we used to give you for fancy football and directed it a hundred percent at Jerry O 'Connell. Wow. Well, that's good. That's good. I appreciate Jerry for that. Now, you know, pressure is a matter of perspective. Are you worried about getting cut? Are you worried about your legacy? Are you worried about justifying your contract? I mean, I think there's a ton of pressure on Dak Prescott. He's making a year. He missed nine games last year with a hamstring injury. And now he's back and he's the guy in the center of the storm. And they go out and get George Pickens for him.

1:53:31He's got C.D. Lamb. There's pressure on him from the outside to live up to this$60 million a year contract. So he's at the top of my list. But then how can you not say there's pressure on Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson to finally close the gap with the Chiefs and finally deliver? It's a shame that all those teams are clustered into the same conference and they have to deal with the Chiefs every year. Have they closed the gap on the Chiefs? I don't know. But I feel like Allen and Jackson, they both have a ton of pressure on them to finally get to the top of the mountain. So those are three guys that aren't in danger of losing their jobs.

1:54:06But pressure. But there's pressure. There's pressure heading into the season. How can there not be?

1:54:10PFT Commenter:Yeah, no, that's a good answer. All right. Give me your – and go AFC, NFC here. And it's not like a bold prediction. But last year, obviously, the Niners, they were a team that was very, very good, had Super Bowl aspirations. The vibes were off. Do you have a team that's vibes are off going into the season where you're like, look, this is a good team on paper. They've been to the playoffs, but something's a little off, and we don't know if they're going to be able to get back there. Well, look, I don't want to doubt the Lions because I think they feed on that, but when you look at last season and you look at the schedule last year for all the teams in the NFC North, they played the four teams of the AFC South and the four teams of the NFC West in a down year for the NFC West.

1:54:58That's eight of your games. Eight out of 17 games is part of this rotation where every year you pick up four teams out of the NFC from the same division, four teams out of the AFC from the same division. This year, the NFC North teams play all the teams of the AFC North, all the teams of the NFC East. It's going to be tougher. The Lions have lost both coordinators. And I know they're doing their best to downplay that. They're trying to turn that into motivation. But how is it not going to be a factor? It's just change. Even if the new coaches end up doing as well as the guys who they're replacing, it's change for the players.

1:55:33Continuity is so important in football. And I think it may have reached a critical mass for the Lions. And they're going to have their hands full. They still have a target on their backs. They've never done anything in the grand scheme of things, haven't gotten to a Super Bowl. And last year, you have that special season that culminates in the one seed, and then you lose to the commanders in the divisional round. And then you get thrown back into what Dennis Green used to call the Valley of Zero and Zero. Good luck. Good luck climbing out of that and fulfilling this promise that everybody assumes you're going to fulfill.

1:56:02I think the Lions, I'm not saying they won't get it done, but I feel like the vibe is off, and it's up to them to get the vibe back on quickly.

1:56:09PFT Commenter:That's a good answer. What about AFC? Is there a team? well you know the texans underwent a lot of change it's pouring down rain here too you're gonna hear it hitting the metal roof the the texans basically oh it's metal i mean it's it's metal it's not like it's flat you own them no that's way more expensive than wood yeah okay so anyway the the texans fired the offensive coordinator they were sluggish last year offensively they've got, I think, 60 % new offensive line. So they're just one of those teams you want to watch because I think the other teams in the division could be better. I think the Titans, I think Campbell has to be pretty good.

1:56:49And they're kind of like the Texans two years ago where no one's paying attention to them. All their games are at one o 'clock Eastern on Sunday. They'll win the games they're supposed to win, lose the games they're supposed to lose. Next thing you know, they're going to be in playoff position with four games left. So between the Colts, if this Daniel Jones thing works. The Jaguars, if the new coach can get more out of Trevor Lawrence and Brian Thomas Jr. continues his ascent to superstardom and Travis Hunter helps out, and then you throw in the Titans. It could be harder for the Texans this year, although I think the Texans will be fine.

1:57:19I look at them and I say, you know, they're going to have to prove it a little bit before people are going to believe it.

1:57:23PFT Commenter:Okay, I like that. And also, you know, their wide receiver room is not what it was last year to start the season, because you've got Tankdale's injury, Stephon Diggs is gone. It might be a little bit harder for them to get it going. And look at how important Nico Collins is to that team. He gets last year and they were completely different without him. And Joe Mixon is still on the non-football injury list for something he did away from the field that has kept him from being involved in anything. A lot of eggs in the Nick Chubb basket who had that horrible knee injury a couple of years ago. I thought maybe they would be the team that traded for Brian Robinson with Washington before the 49ers did the deal.

1:58:01I feel like they need help in the running game because I don't know when we're going to see Joe Mixon. That's been one of those weird stories that hasn't really been discussed much because he's not around. And we talk about the people who are around. But this Joe Mixon thing is weird. And that could really hurt the offense. Look at the kick he gave them last year. That may be gone for at least the first six weeks or more of this season.

1:58:22Big Cat:That's good. That's a good answer. Let's look at the the AFC West. Is this the year that somebody unseats the Chiefs? I know Sims thinks the Broncos are going to knock them off and win the division. I think they're going to have a handful. The Broncos, look at how good that defense is. And we know what Sean Payton does with his offenses. Bo Nix in year two. They added the running back Harvey that they really like. They get J.K. Dobbins, who when he's healthy, is one of the best running backs in the league. They've got great receivers. Vance Joseph's still there. He had some head coaching buzz.

1:58:54He's there running that defense for another year. Continuity, that's the key. You have a good season. You don't lose your coaches. You have continuity. Broncos will be a lot better. Chargers, you know, last year felt flat because they lost in the playoffs to the Texans, but they were surprisingly good in the regular season. And I'm never going to count out Pete Carroll. I know that they're in a tough spot and they can be much better than they were last year and still finish fourth in the division. But I'm not counting the Raiders out. They're going to get the Chiefs fits. I mean, the Chiefs are going to have their hands full this year.

1:59:23It may be one of the reasons why we saw Patrick Mahomes playing three drives in the final preseason game. They're doing everything they can to get ready. Because they know this season is going to be a meat grinder.

1:59:31Big Cat:Is this the year that somebody unseats the Chiefs in the AFC West? I'm going to say no. Oh, come on. Go ahead. With your fancy social media graphic, Florio guarantees lightning too. Not good to be under a metal roof when it's lightning. You guys may have a moment like the Drew Brees moment that was fake. Mine might be real.

1:59:50PFT Commenter:That would be awesome. I thought that's how you get power in West Virginia. I would be awesome if you got struck by lightning right now. 21 gigawatts. yeah no I mean the Chiefs are interesting I'm not going to bet against the Chiefs in the AFC West but that is also a team I always like to look at teams that won a lot of close games and a lot of the NFL season is like are you having one of those seasons where the ball bounces your way and all these one score games you find a way to win obviously good teams do find that way to win but a couple you know weird bounces you know that game was it last year the game where they blocked the kick against the Broncos at the end of the game right like some of these games that feel like they're 50 50 and they make that one play that's a lot of credit to them but it's also like hey you could have a season like the 49ers last year where shit just goes wrong and everything kind of falls apart you're like how'd this happen and here's the reality and look it's bad form to name names of guys who if they get injured it's going to change everything but we know guys are going to get injured and it's going to change everything.

2:00:53How Christian McCaffrey last year, we found that 90 minutes before kickoff of their week one Monday night game that he wasn't playing because of this Achilles issue that we were led to believe was no big deal. And we hardly see him last year. When he comes back and plays, he gets a knee injury. So we don't know where that bug is going to bite, but it could change things. And the Chiefs need to stay healthy. They need to get this Rasheed Rice thing figured out. He's going to be around for the first four or five, probably six games. And then how long is he going to miss after that? Will he get back in time for the playoffs?

2:01:25That's hanging over them. But they've created a vibe the last few years where they thrive on that stuff. Like they love playing every day of the week. They love playing in prime time. They love all this weird shit that goes on because it prepares them maybe for those moments where it comes down to one play where they've learned how to bend victory their way in the regular season and in the postseason. I mean, look, the Eagles knew if we're going to beat them in the Super Bowl, we can't just try to win on a walk-off field goal. We got to stomp them. We got to be up by 20. We can't let them come back because if they're within two scores, they are going to come back.

2:02:04Big Cat:Yeah, more teams should do that. Go up 20 against the Chiefs. That's the formula. It's easy if we can build the 20-point lead. That's the hard part. All right, I got a softball for you here, Mike. 20-point lead is easier than building it. Yes. We'll get back to Florio in a second. He's brought to you by Chevy. For over a century, Chevy has been building trucks that don't flinch and never quit. Whether you're hauling lumber on the job or you're trying to get the smoker, the cooler, the cornhole boards, and the whole crew to the tailgate on time, Chevy gets you there. When Chevy says most dependable truck, they're not just speculating.

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2:03:43Big Cat:And it turns out that that documentary, it's happening. So would you like to apologize to Jordan? Look, I'm a businessman at the end of the day, and I can see my real-time traffic, and I know the stories that people read. And I have held my powder far more often than not with Jordan's stories. Every once in a while, I got to do it because I know what the people want. They want to read about Belichick and Jordan, and they want to read about Shadour Sanders. And, you know, sometimes you just got to give people a cookie. I mean, bakeries sell cookies, and sometimes we're a bakery. I like that. I like that.

2:04:16Big Cat:So you don't want to apologize to Jordan. And I don't feel the need to apologize to anyone. When I feel the need to apologize to someone, I almost always do. Almost always do. But it seems like she was right. She got the deal done. Well, but she blew up the deal with HBO and NFL Films. Will you agree that that would have been a far bigger deal? Probably got more money. Probably got that Disney money from Hulu. Yeah.

2:04:42PFT Commenter:All right, Mike, let's take the gloves off real quick. Two-part question. Hank, sit up, please. Hi, Hank. Will there be a Super Bowl in London in our lifetime, and are you opposed to it or are you for it? I'm opposed to it, but I think it's going to happen. Okay, so we can work with that because Hank is a traitor and he wants there to be a Super Bowl in London. We think it's absolutely anti-American and bullshit, but you're telling us because I think PFT and I both see the writing on the wall. They're going to make us do this. They're going to do it, right? I remember when they played a regular season game at Wembley the first time.

2:05:23Dolphins, Giants, 2007, I believe. People were like, what the fuck are they doing? Well, you turn it on and it looks the same. Now, the grass was horrible that day. I mean, other than the guys slipping and sliding around it, which basically was Super Bowl, what, 58. So, you know, maybe it does look like it does when they play here. But it looks the same on TV. And for the Super Bowl, like how many people actually go to the Super Bowl? Oh, no. Oh, there's a lot. They're going to justify it. They're going to justify it because they want to globalize the sport. They want to do it. And they understand that it takes a commitment and that regular season games are just part of it.

2:05:59They want to get to 16 regular season games each year. They're toying with the idea of putting teams, four teams in Europe, a four-team division. Logistically, it will be a challenge, but it fulfills the goal of the money. Look at how they're all in with flag football. They didn't just suddenly discover flag football is cool. They see that as a way to advance the agenda of globalizing the sport. So, yeah, I can't rule out at some point in our lifetimes, maybe yours more than mine, since, you know, Big Cat, I'm 10 years older than you. but you're 70 mike i'm 60 but um the the the idea that the big man move money changes everything money drives everything it's all about the money and i think at some point they'll do it so i just

2:06:46PFT Commenter:think but you you think it's bullshit right like you like it's bullshit yeah i mean i i don't don't

2:06:53Big Cat:you want the sport to be globalized michael that's good for you and your website oh absolutely it's good for me but at what cost like yeah we can localize the sport at what cost it looks the same on tv about without giving up the super bowl and also mike doesn't necessarily want all that foreign traffic not all traffic it's good traffic yeah then i'd have to get like translator apps yeah i don't know how it even work we do have it we do have the famous english to american translator i should be pandering more to the uk on this i should be saying i want to have a super bowl there because our morning show is televised by Sky because it's all tied in under Comcast and Sky and Common Ownership and whatever.

2:07:32And we have like a ton of passionate people that love our show, that love the way we approach it, that watch the show. And we've been wanting to go over there. I just don't have a passport. That's another story. But I mean - What are you, Elvis?

2:07:46PFT Commenter:Why don't you have a passport? I've had no need to leave the country. Okay. 60 years, no need. I've had no need to leave.

2:07:54Big Cat:There's a lot of great stuff in the United States.

2:07:56PFT Commenter:Yeah. We just don't like the idea of giving up the Super Bowl. Super Bowl's America. I don't like it at all. My long-term prediction is this. There will be a Super Bowl played overseas at some point, and there will be 20 regular season games, no preseason games, and 40 teams. Wow. That will happen.

2:08:18Big Cat:That sounds like we're getting into the territory of hogs get slaughtered. That's so much football. I like that. It's a lot of football. That's a lot of football. I like the more football. If you give me those, I might be okay. If they don't have preseason games, week one is going to suck. Week two is probably going to suck. It already sucks. I'm still going to watch it. Yeah, it already is bad football. I am going to watch it, but I don't like the idea of the Super Bowl being overseas. The Super Bowl is a uniquely American tradition that should stay in America. First things first, have the Super Bowl on President's Day weekend first, and then let's worry about going overseas.

2:08:53Under the current scheduling formula, it will be a couple of times.

2:08:56Big Cat:Yep, yeah. Way it falls. And so if they go to 18 games, there will be years that it overshoots President's Day weekend unless they start Labor Day weekend. And if they go to 18 games and two buys, it's always going to overshoot President's Day weekend unless they start Labor Day weekend. What do you guys think of that? They haven't started Labor Day weekend since 2001 because everybody's out for one last summer weekend and not watch football. Well, that was before we all started carrying around our TV sets with us. I think they could play on Labor Day weekend again. Absolutely. Yeah, I definitely think that they could.

2:09:32Big Cat:I think that it's important to have Labor Day weekend where you might not be attached to your phone as much because people are flying. And if you're on a plane that doesn't have live TV, that's going to suck that weekend. Yeah, but it's Sunday.

2:09:45PFT Commenter:You're not flying on Sunday Labor Day weekend.

2:09:46Big Cat:Some people could fly on Sunday. Fly on Monday, get home from Monday Night Football. But I I don't look I understand why they got away from it. I don't know why they resist going back to it. And maybe at some level they're not. They they it's it's so big now. Yeah. And numbers keep getting larger and larger. And hey, you know, despite the flaws, some of which are laid out in Big Shield, even though it's not about the NFL for legal reasons, they are the king and they keep getting larger and larger. and to Hank's point, they want to infect the rest of the world with the virus that we've had for years now.

2:10:21I remember when I was a kid, baseball was clear number one and football was distant number two and football took over. And every time that I mentioned the possibility of one of these days, football being as popular as soccer, people lose their shit, but I'm sure the NFL at some level wants to try. They may not get there, but they want to try.

2:10:39Big Cat:They just want to get bigger. So Mike, I want to ask you about owners. So what is the next team that's going to be up for sale? the Seahawks at some point are going to be for sale. Jody Allen is handling the estate of her brother, one of the Microsoft founders, Paul Allen. And there's no deadline in his will for her to sell the assets off. She can basically do it whenever she wants and all the money goes to his charities. She's selling the Portland Trailblazers. They, like the Seahawks, had not been for sale for years. And I heard, and I don't know whether this is true, and I hate dabbling in things that I just hear from people who call me up and say, I heard this, but I did hear that at one point she was looking to package the two and decided not to do it.

2:11:20So deal for the Blazers. Seahawks, I think will be the next team that, that is available. And I also can't rule out the fact that as the values keep going up and up and up, one of these owners is going to say, you know what? I've had enough. I'll take, I'll take 10 billion and I'll move on. I've had my fun i've i don't know you know what have you had good seasons i've had i've gotten what i want out of this i'll sell to somebody i'll take the money off the table and and uh you know and just liquidate this thing and and sell high i bought law and now i'm gonna sell high yeah go off to the sunset uh

2:11:57PFT Commenter:mike let's look ahead again another like kind of preview question uh three worst teams the nfl this year when we're looking at the draft next year i i want to be careful here because in 2021 2021, I said the Bengals have no chance to make the playoffs and they almost won the Super Bowl in 2023. I said the Texans have no chance to make the playoffs and they made it to the final eight. Any team can make the playoffs. With 17 games and seven teams per conference, any team can have the dominoes fall just right for them. But I would be very concerned if I was a fan of the Dolphins. I would be extremely concerned if I'm a fan of the Browns.

2:12:36I would find something else to do on Sunday if I was a fan of the Saints. So those are the three to come to mind. And I don't want to say the Dolphins are going to be among the worst. I just think they're one of the teams most likely to really disappoint their fan base who seem to think everything's fine. I think if you look closely at that team right now, it's like things seem off. And I think if they start slow and Tyree Kill has like two catches in week four, he's going to blow a gasket again. I think he's a guy who could be traded. He could be the Devontae Adams this year. He could get traded to a contender if the Dolphins start not well and he's not happy with his his overall workload and his catches and his numbers I could see them deciding to trade him before the deadline

2:13:20PFT Commenter:I agree about the Dolphins that's a bad vibe team that feels like a team that could go it could go south quickly especially the Jets are another one I feel like I feel like the Jets are going to be better eventually with Aaron Glenn I just feel like there's so much work to do to get the personnel in place to run the team the way he wants it I look it took the Lions a while with Dan Campbell they weren't good his first year I think the Jets are going to be fine long term as long as they can keep Woody Johnson from meddling and so far they've done it but I don't think it's a quick fix potentially because I just don't think they have the players necessary to do what Aaron Glenn's looking for look at all the guys they've trained they've trained for like a couple of defensive tackles last week like they're looking for guys that better fit what aaron glenn's trying to do

2:14:03Big Cat:i think memes agrees with you i don't think memes is upset at all by that yeah memes good take mike

2:14:09PFT Commenter:good take thank you yeah me memes you you don't hate florio anymore as much right no he's fine for now he's gone down in the florio ranking who's the number one florio

2:14:22Big Cat:uh rossini's always up there he's still number one yeah yeah warren sharp also so he's just he's just engagement farming with jesson fields yeah all right so he's like third

2:14:33PFT Commenter:florio right now yeah okay you gotta step those numbers up mike yeah you gotta say worse things about the jazz can i grow that really cool mustache yeah yeah yeah you look good who was the guy that played uh auto in a fish called ronda kevin klein i should get that really cool

2:14:48Big Cat:you're 70 years old yeah yeah uh hey mike me and you know what my hair is not colored and it's like mainly like for the most part if you look at it the right way it's dark i would be like full-blown santa claus if i didn't shave that'd be good i would love to see mike with it can we make a beard bet this year no my wife would kill me if the saints make the playoffs you have to grow a beard all right okay that was easy um mike me and hank have a bet that the the patriots will not make it to the super bowl in the next two years and hank owes me fifty thousand dollars if they don't how safe is my money what kind of odds did he i mean it was a straight bet like two years ago years yeah i think they're going to be a lot better i think they got the right coach i just think that there's just like with the jets you got a lot to do to undo the damage to the roster and it was done later years of belichick and even last year there's a chance drake may is going to be the only 2024 draft pick on the roster week one so it wasn't just belichick It was the Gerard Mayo, Elliott Wolfe thing.

2:15:51So I just think that they have a way to go to get to the team that Vrabel wants to be. But I think they're going to be in good hands with Vrabel. I think this is the job he's always wanted. I think they are on the rise. I don't know that I'm ready to say they're going to win the Super Bowl the next two years.

2:16:06Big Cat:Okay. Let me get you on the record for who are Mike's MVPs? Who should the MVP should have been for the 2025 season, Mike? The MVP for this year? For this year, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I feel like if Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen are healthy and Joe Burrow, it's going to be one of those three. It all depends upon their teams, too. I mean, wouldn't Burrow have been the MVP last year? Yeah, it would have been close. Yeah. In the division.

2:16:31PFT Commenter:Yeah. So, yeah, I think it's going to be one of those quarterbacks. I mean, we're living in a time where there are some great quarterbacks. Like, the best of the best quarterbacks are as good as we've ever seen. And we've got some young guys that maybe can match them. We'll see. But Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, and Jackson, good Lord. I mean, that's as good of a foursome of quarterbacks we've ever seen, and they're all in the same conference. Since we're talking about quarterbacks, this is going to pop in my head because I'm looking at the week one lines, which always gets me excited. Kyler Murray, remember him?

2:17:02PFT Commenter:Does he kind of stink? No. Look, he had that torn ACL, and I think it took him a while to recover from. And I think it takes anybody that – when your game is premised on speed and agility and you tear your ACL, it's going to take some time to get back to the guy you used to be. The Cardinals are one of those teams this year where people are like, hey, maybe they can thread the needle when we get to the playoffs. I'll believe it when I see it, but this is year three for Jonathan Gannon and Monty Austin for it. And fun fact about the Cardinals, they've been around for like 200 years. No one has ever coached that team more than six years.

2:17:36The record is held by Jim Hannafin and Ken Wisenhunt. Wow. The Indians came one year short of matching them, but nobody's done more than six years. This is year three for Jonathan Gannon, and I don't know that it's up or out, but let's see. And for Kyler Murray, it's a big year because after this year, they're closer to the point where they can move on from his contract, maybe trade him. I think that this is a big year. We're talking about guys under pressure. Murray will be under the kind of pressure where if he doesn't deliver this year, the Cardinals go in a different direction at quarterback.

2:18:07PFT Commenter:Yeah, I just feel like Kyler Murray's kind of forgotten. and we'll see him make some incredible plays, but then there'll be some big moments. Like, what the hell is he doing there? And it just doesn't feel like he's taking – injury is fair point. It doesn't feel like he's taking that next step where it's like, oh, shit, he is a true franchise quarterback that you can trust week in and week out. And it's year seven. Like, at some point, you are who you are, and you're not going to be anything better. You know, when Brock Purdy did his long-term contract, and I said he's a middle-of-the-pack quarterback, 49ers fans get pissed off about it.

2:18:42There's no shame in being better than everyone in the world at quarterback than like 12 people. That's pretty fucking good. And Kyler Murray is in that cluster somewhere between 10 and 20, and that's probably where he's always going to be.

2:18:56PFT Commenter:Yeah, speaking of, and not a shot because there's no shame in his career either, but is Kirk Cousins going to play for anyone else this year? Is there a chance that Kirk Cousins starts for another team that gets desperate that loses their quarterback in the first month or in a half of the season? That's the key. There's got to be an injury. He's a good option. Yeah, and you've got to have a team that doesn't say next man up because a lot of times when the injury happens, they've got to back up ready to go. I've been watching the Rams lately because this whole Matthew Stafford thing, like what's up with his back, and they were trying to let the whole thing go away and be done and resolved and he'd be good to go for the season and it would never be a discussion point.

2:19:37That's not the issue now. Now, the issue now is just survival. Let's get him to the season. Let's get him through the season. It feels like at some point Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be playing. But if they would ever get to the point where he's shut down, I don't know. Are you better off trading for Kirk Cousins, Sean McVay, and Cousins go back to their time together in Washington when McVay was the offensive coordinator? Are you better off with Cousins or are you better off with Garoppolo? But it's going to be a situation like that where somebody loses their quarterback for the year. They do a deal with the Falcons.

2:20:03They're going to have to work out the money because the Falcons are going to unload some, but they're going to have to pay some. But, yeah, I feel like that thing is just a matter of time if there's the right opportunity. And we're just going to wait, and they're going to wait for the right opportunity to pop up between now and the Tuesday after week nine.

2:20:18Big Cat:I think he might play this year. I think the scenario that Big Cat laid out there, I think that's probably going to happen. Because if I'm Sean McVay and my options are Jimmy Garoppolo or Kirk Cousins, I'm picking up a phone and I'm calling Kirk Cousins.

2:20:28PFT Commenter:Yeah, or if the Niners have a situation. Again, we don't talk about injuries, but that's another. Kirk Cousins obviously has ties to Kyle Shanahan. You wanted him. Yeah. they have they have michael mccorkle jones who they they really like but but oh that's what okay sign him is the backup it's the other thing to say all right go ahead and play i think shanahan would make the call for cousins if he and i see this is i'm violating my own rule of not naming

2:20:54Big Cat:names of guys who may be out for the season you're wishing injuries on people the 49ers would need a quarterback for the rest of the year for whatever reason maybe brock purdy just decides i've had enough football and i'm retiring whatever the reason may be there's another social media graphic you can use, whatever the reason would be, then I think the 49ers would want Kirk Cousins. I think Vikings would want him. Yeah. Starter for the whole year. Yeah. You sound like you're threatening them almost. You're like, be real shame if anything happened. Your Italian's coming out. You got a pretty good quarterback there.

2:21:25It'd be a shame if something happened to him.

2:21:27Big Cat:Let me ask you about a story that you're very passionate about that I think the entire internet really, really cares about a lot, Mike. Tom Brady's rules for broadcasting now that he's an owner. have we got an update on any of that is any of that still pissing you off well look there was a time where things like conflicts of interest mattered there was a time where things like you know truth mattered i i don't know it was a quaint time back when i was a kid and i was learning lessons from my parents it's just amazing how you can have this obvious conflict of interest and nobody cares and that's fine if those are the rules and nobody cares then let's all go have a bunch of conflicts of interest and you know it's not an issue anymore so okay maybe that's the message maybe we shouldn't care maybe we should just say we should have a bunch of conflicts

2:22:12PFT Commenter:of interest yeah okay yeah i'm fine with that yeah we we are part of my take we're never biased uh we're unbiased about everything i think when you hear us we talk in a truthful manner we don't let our bias show like kyle schwerber should be the mvp this year ashton genti uh great running back

2:22:29Big Cat:glad that he got a good home in Vegas, but probably not the Heisman from last year.

2:22:34PFT Commenter:Right. These are just facts that we're stating. We have no ulterior motives. Okay. What did I miss? Nothing. Yeah. Okay. No, you believe us. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Because the truth doesn't matter, Mike. The truth doesn't matter.

2:22:49Big Cat:What about the NFLPA stuff that you've been working on? Because you and Pablo have done some actual capital J journalism, but I'm so confused as to what's happening right now. Tell us the paperwork you've been reading, Mike. As I've told Pablo on his own podcast, journalism sucks. It's hard. It's difficult. Like he had some proposition that he had eight sources for. It's like, dude, why don't you do that? That's too many sources. Thank you for your service, by the way. But I believe that the NFL is best served if there's balance between management and labor. And if it gets too far out of balance, it sets the stage for a potential work stoppage.

2:23:27so you know you you want there to be a strong union and it can't be everybody getting along there has to be some tension it's not a partnership it was never a partnership and you can't have nflpa executive directors who think they're going to forge a partnership with the owners it's just not going to happen they're going to shake your hand and with the free hand they're going to stab you in the back if they can get away with it that's just the way it is they're ruthless successful business people you need to have somebody who's willing to fight them when the opportunity to fight arises. And this whole thing flowed from the fact that the NFL had a partial win against the league in a collusion case, and they shoved it in a desk drawer and left it there for five months, and they were going to bury it indefinitely.

2:24:07That's what Pablo found. That's what I was banging the drum to find. And that kind of started, that was the first domino that swept the executive director out of the union. Now, there was a lot of great reporting from Don Van Natta Jr. and Kalen Kaler of ESPN that fueled it. But the first domino that was flicked was let's find this collusion ruling because we know it's out there. And for whatever reason, no one's talking about it. So there's just some stuff that needs to happen. And football fans don't care because they want their football, but you also don't want a strike or a lockout to take away all or part of a football season.

2:24:39That means the two sides need to have a healthy, they need to have a healthy tension. And if they have a healthy tension, there's never going to be that mutually assured destruction of a season of football being lost. And I always tell fans this, because fans line up behind the owners.

2:24:54PFT Commenter:Oh, he's pointing at us, guys. The owners are the ones – I'll stop pointing. The owners are the ones that will take football away from you for a full season. They're the ones who would do it without blinking. The players won't take it away from you for a weekend. So think about that when you just kind of blindly line up behind the owners and get mad at the players because the players are making too much money. No, we're a player first podcast. And I also want to say this is going to be a compliment. We're going to navigate our way there, so just follow me. your reporting Pablo's reporting been great I am too stupid to read all the things that you guys write about this it's a bunch of names I don't know it's a bunch of dealings I don't understand

2:25:34Big Cat:it's like a lot of associate executive directors of things and then I don't know really what their jobs are but they sound like assholes

2:25:41PFT Commenter:the premise of the entire thing is the guy expents a strip club experience and I'm like dude dudes rock that's fine by me but I do think that you're doing something important I'm just when you say hey we're a bakery I'm coming for the cookie I want to hear about your Doris Sanders and Jordan you called me up that night before one of the shows to explain it to you like you were five and I did and then you called me out for explaining it to you like you were five because I still didn't understand it when you were explaining to me like I was five I was like this is the worst bedtime story of all time so boring but yeah I do appreciate you doing that because like it is I and I mean this in a heartfelt way guys like you guys like you know Pablo Donvin Nata Seth Wickersham a lot of reporters like they actually are very important for for our people who are listening right now because if they don't do these things the NFL will get away with a lot of things that they don't want people to know about and we will have a stoppage and that would fucking suck Jay Glazer told me years ago that 95 % of the journalism in sports media, specifically the NFL, isn't really journalism.

2:26:49It's just getting a five minute heads up on something that's going to be announced anyway. The only true journalism is finding out the shit that they don't want us to know. And when I flip over something like that, that's just great because that's what they don't want people to know. If they don't want people to know, there's got to be a reason for it. So let's find it out and let's share it with the world. Let's put a spotlight on it.

2:27:08Big Cat:So what was the reason that the NFLPA, the leadership was like just burying all this stuff. What were they trying to get? Was it just like they were, they were had a deal on the side with them? No, I think it was a combination of Lloyd Howell, the former executive director thinking that, you know, we'll buddy up to and be partners with the league. That was part of it. And also the last executive director, Demore Smith, his agenda was to fight, to litigate, to sue. He's the one who brought the collusion case and lloyd's attitude was no he fights too much he sues too much so so something that that demore smith started ends up proving that they were trying to collude when it comes to fully guaranteed contracts after deshaun watson did his deal kind of like yeah let's not talk about that very much because that makes the other guy look good it makes it look like the other guy had the right idea and we've got the wrong idea i think that was a big part

2:27:59PFT Commenter:of that makes a lot of sense also i'm now remind remembering some of the reading of this lloyd Howell is just an unbelievably boring name. Like if you tell me, hey, here's the story about Lloyd Howell, I'm like, no, thank you, dude. I don't want to hear it. We got to change his name to something better, something more salacious. Lloyd Howell has never done anything worth reading in his entire life. What's his middle name? You agree, right, Mike? That's a boring name. If I told you here's the main character's name is Lloyd Howell, I want to put a bullet in my head. The best fact as it relates to the Lloyd Howell experience, other than the idea that he thought that he could get away with charging strip club expenditures to official union business, he had his parking spot at the union.

2:28:46He had it turned into a double spot because he didn't want to get door dings on his Porsche Cayenne.

2:28:51PFT Commenter:That's awesome. And then he wanted the number of the parking spot changed to 32 in honor of Orenthal J. Simpson. Oh, wow. Okay, Lloyd Howe is a bad boy.

2:29:02Big Cat:But, yeah, he's still got a boring name. Yeah, I wish – he doesn't even have a middle name. So he's got nothing else. This guy's kind of suspicious right now, Mike. He should just adopt Orinthal. He should.

2:29:12PFT Commenter:He should just become the new O.J. All right, Mike, I got one last question for you. It's always good to talk to you, do a little preview of the NFL season. We're so excited for NFL to be back. Rowback question, RHOBACK.com, promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, everything. Roback.com, they make the best stuff ever. And Jameis is also a spokesman for Roback now. So Roback.com, promo code TAKE. Give us your championship Sunday and Super Bowl and Super Bowl winner. I assume you've done it. You're ready for this season to start, ready to start talking real football.

2:29:48PFT Commenter:So I assume you have it, but give us those picks. I haven't done it yet. I wait as late as possible because you never know when somebody's going to blow out an ACL the last week before week one. I usually wait until next Tuesday. I'll say and god I don't want it to be Chiefs and Eagles again I really don't let's let's say and I who who who knows and if you get it right nobody gives a shit if you get it wrong you get called names it's it's a no-win proposition I'll say can I give you a tip can I give you a tip before you give us your pick but if you get it wrong it's it was just a joke okay so it's all just a joke that's what we do yeah there was a time where I thought you know every year in the Super Bowl, like one team makes it that we expected and another team makes that we didn't expect.

2:30:33The team that I picked to make it that no one expected was Washington. And like for three years, people were giving me shit about that. It's like, I mean, you know, who knows? That's the point. Who the fuck knows who's going to make it? That's part of the fun.

2:30:47Big Cat:When was this? Because yeah, that was a bad pick. It was a while ago. It was a bad pick. Like 2007? It might've been that long. But the NFL is very top heavy now. You've had some teams that have cracked the code on free agency salary cap. They have very good teams. And I really don't want it to be the Chiefs and the Eagles again. I really don't. But these other teams are going to have to prove it. I'll say Chiefs-Ravens in the AFC Championship and Eagles-49ers in the NFC Championship, Eagles-Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Wow, round three. I don't think they're going to be better than we expect.

2:31:23PFT Commenter:You think who's going to be better? 49ers. I think they're going to be better than people expect. Yeah, I do too. I think last season was just kind of an anomaly of everything that could go wrong went wrong, and we kind of forgot about them.

2:31:35Big Cat:At that point, if the Chiefs beat the Ravens again, if they beat them in the AFC Championship game, what will we be saying about Lamar Jackson? Well, I mean, what the haters will be saying is he can't win the big one. And, you know, you've got a contract issue between him and the Ravens looming. I don't know if he ever decides he wants to go somewhere else, But if he would play out this contract, his cap number would make his franchise tag ridiculously high. He really could put in three more years with the Ravens and then go get a fresh start wherever he wanted to. So after this year, if it doesn't work, he's two seasons away from going wherever he wants.

2:32:15Now, he'd be early 30s, but we see these quarterbacks playing until 40. He could. If he decides, I'm just going to finish this deal, he could do it. and by all appearances and based on his current contract and the cap numbers, he'd become a free agent in three seasons. And wouldn't that be something?

2:32:32PFT Commenter:Yeah. If Lamar Kax is available to any team that wants him. Well, we already saw that movie once. Yeah. At least then it would have come with two first-round picks. This would be free and clear. All right, Mike, you're the best. Everyone, please go buy Mike's new book. We love Mike. He's one of our favorite guests. Go buy it on Amazon right now, The Big Shield. I'm going to send you guys copies too. Yes, please do. But I'm going to send you copies so you will have something to not read. Yeah, I like it. I'll have to look at something to put on my coffee table. Yeah, I'll walk by it every day. Just be like, wow.

2:33:03Son, I'll send you the quarterback of the future script. I'll take your notes.

2:33:06Big Cat:Yeah, I mean, if you haven't read the book, I hope you kept in the part about the quarterback being a time traveler. Yeah, that was kind of the whole point. So he goes back in time to like the 1970s, right? Yeah, it's 1960. But that part remained because that was kind of the gist of the whole story. But we have some interest. But one thing I've learned about like trying to adapt books into films or series, I don't know how anything gets made. I have no idea. There are so many hoops that you have to fucking jump through to get something made. I don't know how anything makes it. If you want notes on the script, I'm happy to provide them.

2:33:44Big Cat:You also have to write a part of our book, too. Yeah, I'm happy to do it. I was offended you hadn't asked me. You asked Dan Patrick. You didn't ask me.

2:33:51PFT Commenter:No, we just want to ask you face to face. Yeah. So you're going to do it. Maybe multiple chapters. I'll do it. I'll write the whole thing. Okay, great. Yeah, deal. Awesome. All right, Mike, you're the best.

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2:34:50PFT Commenter:Okay, let's wrap up. Good show, boys. Colton, how you doing? Can you get Colton on? Colton, how you doing? Wait, Colton, are you wearing the 4X Alvin Kamara? I am, 4X Alvin Kamara. Is it Kamara or Kamara? Do we? It's Kamara. Both. I've been saying it wrong. What numbers is it? Three. Fuck you. Ah! Colton doesn't even know he's just a pawn in the game. I am interested in the shirt, Colton, but that was just... No, he's not. You were a pawn in that game right there. Fair. That was just a little dance we were playing. Anything for the lottery. Yeah. 22. Wait, wait, wait. Keep talking. So it's 4X?

2:35:33PFT Commenter:4X. How does it fit? It's pretty perfect, honestly. It's a little tight. It does look a little small. I'm not going to lie.

2:35:43Big Cat:Yeah, I haven't washed it yet, so I'm worried to see how it does in the dryer. Yeah, it'll shrink up on you. Yeah, yeah. Get that to like a 2X. Yeah.

2:35:49PFT Commenter:And you tried on the 14X? I did. Oh, my. Is it here? No, it's at my house. Okay. It took up half the washing machine I washed today. It's a sheet.

2:35:59Big Cat:You washed a king-sized sheet. Yeah, I did. I really did. I'll bring it next time.

2:36:04PFT Commenter:All right. So, PFT, you have three. I have three. Yeah. Hank, you have what?

2:36:08Big Cat:22.

2:36:09PFT Commenter:Okay.

2:36:09Big Cat:I'll take six.

2:36:10PFT Commenter:Good pick. I'll take 77.

2:36:12Big Cat:10. 17.

2:36:14PFT Commenter:So, 17 for Zach. 23.

2:36:16Big Cat:85 What? That's memes lashing out Did you see all the people that were tweeting I got us saying that Tommy Fleetwood won a golf tournament Before memes got the lottery ball I did see that Wait, what was memes lashing out with? 17 I didn't think that

2:36:31PFT Commenter:He didn't take 17

2:36:32Big Cat:Who did?

2:36:33PFT Commenter:He was Zach did I think Zach took 17 Yeah, Zach took 17

2:36:37Big Cat:I just see three sitting at the top I need it Come on Are you just not going to pick a number? I don't know You're never going to get it. I'm evaluating.

2:36:47PFT Commenter:You're never going to get it, so it doesn't matter.

2:36:49Big Cat:Great question. That's what Florio said when he needed time to think. I'm going to take number seven. That was a cool reference. Sick. You are Florio now. Yeah, that's true. What did you take? Seven. Seven. Come on, three. Okay. Is that just because you can see seven? Yeah.

2:37:09PFT Commenter:Everyone else gone? Yep. All right, say them again. I'll start. 77. I had three. Six.

2:37:15Big Cat:22. 17. 3. 10. 3. 23. 85.

2:37:21PFT Commenter:Memes has 7.

2:37:32Oh, Shane, did you get it?

2:37:33PFT Commenter:85! 85! Let's go, Shane. Shane, this isn't your first time, is it?

2:37:39Big Cat:No, this is Shane's, like, 10th time. This is my third time. Let's go, Shane! Wow. That's awesome. Damn, congrats, Shane. Shane, how do you do it?

2:37:46PFT Commenter:I'm running out of Chargers. Shane, postgame. Postgame real quick. How do you do it?

2:37:51Big Cat:You pick the three Chargers he knows. Chargers Hall of Fame.

2:37:54PFT Commenter:This is a postgame with Shane. My bad. My bad. How do you do it, Shane?

2:37:58Big Cat:I just...

2:37:59PFT Commenter:Chargers. That's incredible. Hall of Famers.

2:38:01Big Cat:I'm running out. That's incredible. Shane, how cool was it when LT was your running back? It was awesome. Yeah. He was really good on the Chargers. The best.

2:38:12PFT Commenter:Shane, how long have you been picking numbers? Like two years? since we moved in here. So, yeah, about two years, and you've got it three times? Third time, yes. And memes, how long have you been picking numbers? I don't know. You do know. I don't know. You definitely know.

2:38:29Big Cat:I don't know.

2:38:30PFT Commenter:I've been picking numbers the moment Hank got his number. Okay. What a day that was. So, Shane has it three times.

2:38:38Big Cat:One of the best days of my life.

2:38:39PFT Commenter:Is that your number, memes? Three? Yeah. But you've also picked other numbers you never... Well, three's not in there. Shane.

2:38:47Big Cat:What's up?

2:38:48PFT Commenter:Can you just give memes a tip?

2:38:49Big Cat:I don't want to do this because I don't want to do this. Why? Is this someone we got to look out for? You'll get pretty mean to me.

2:38:59PFT Commenter:Memes, I would like to give you a chance for a solo lottery ball, and this will count.

2:39:06Big Cat:Three. Memes, memes, memes, memes, memes, memes, memes.

2:39:11PFT Commenter:This should be crazy. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Oh, not even close. 28. 28. Oh, wait.

2:39:27Big Cat:Three was up there. Oh, no. Three was in the tube. I swear to God. Give him one more. You want one more, memes? Not really.

2:39:36PFT Commenter:No, give him one more. Come on, memes. Last one. Three.

2:39:53PFT Commenter:Oh 72 Memes

2:39:58Big Cat:Damn dude You'll get it memes

2:40:01PFT Commenter:Really One day I'm just gonna try your hardest Memes you realize too when you get it We're going to get a new machine. Have to. Have to. Because we've got to restart the whole thing where someone's got to not have it. But that might be... If I had to tell them, hey, we're going to need a new lottery ball machine, when are you expecting to get it?

2:40:29Big Cat:Friday.

2:40:30PFT Commenter:Okay. Is this like a Terry McLaurin situation?

2:40:33Big Cat:Maybe, yeah, you've secretly gotten it already?

2:40:35PFT Commenter:Oh, no. What is this? What are you pulling up? This is the tracker.

2:40:39Big Cat:Oh my goodness I didn't know that they had A day tracker We should honestly put this on Yeah

2:40:47PFT Commenter:Memes has never won 668 day drought Damn

2:40:54Big Cat:319 days I mean you're climbing up 988 was mine What does this picture mean?

2:41:01PFT Commenter:Oh man

2:41:02Big Cat:That's just what you look like man

2:41:06Big Cat:That is what Shane said

2:41:08PFT Commenter:whenever we complain. Jack has never won it, too. Jack from the back. Okay. Memes. Good luck on Wednesday. But you're not going to get it. Maybe. No. Probably not. You want to do one more? Yeah. Memes. Memes. Memes.

2:41:28Big Cat:Memes. You got these memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. Memes. You should let Zach guess one, too. Zach, you guessed one, too. 26 Okay Good guess

2:41:41PFT Commenter:74 Not even close

2:41:43Big Cat:Well 7 minus 4 is 3

2:41:46PFT Commenter:That's a great point

2:41:47Big Cat:Good math

2:41:48PFT Commenter:Max did you take off your shoes to do that math? Love you guys

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