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21:54But they also... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. How do you know iShowSpeed if you don't have the internet? So iShowSpeed travels these countries, he'll go live, and you'll see crowds of hundreds of hundreds, if not thousands of people behind him. They know speed. But I've got some videos. Those are countries that don't have the Internet. They don't have the Internet, but they know speed. Or they have dial up. They have slow Internet. You might be winning me over. No, I think I think everybody in the United States knows Donald Trump. I think every like half the country of China probably knows Donald Trump.

22:21I think you're also saying that like Australia, Brazil, everybody in Brazil knows Donald Trump. Do you know that Donald Trump is on their cell phones, too? Like you do the cell phone, textbook thing. Yeah, definitely. Trump's on the phone. Yeah, he's on the phone. Yeah, they're both on phones. They're both on Instagram. Instagram's a terrible metric. Speed does have more followers on Instagram. Bad metric, terrible metric. Terrible metric. He barely does. But Trump also has so many people that hate him, that aren't following him. And so many people that aren't on Instagram that know who he is.

22:51Like if Trump has 45 million followers, he probably has 45 million haters. Would we say... But they don't follow him, but they still know him. Speed's profession is social media. No, but what are our thoughts on soccer as a sport? How big is that? It's a big sport. Pretty big. Would we say Cristiano Ronaldo is maybe one of the biggest names in the world? Yeah. Would he compete with Trump? No, because Trump won the first ever FIFA Peace Prize. Yeah. Which is the most prestigious award in soccer. Outside of him taking that trophy to the crib, would we... I mean, Trump... Or, speed straight out the Ronaldo pipeline.

23:21What? If you know the Messi-Ronaldo debate, you know speed. He's stamped by Cristiano Ronaldo. No, but he's a figurehead of the Ronaldo debate side in that argument. He is a... He's become a... We would call him a Ronaldo dick rider. Okay.

23:36PFT Commenter:No, he's a colonel in that army. But how does that make him? He's saying that if Ronaldo has whatever, 200 million fans, then Speed has 200 million fans, but it's more like. Ronaldo's got way more than 200 million fans. But still, he's saying that that all goes to Speed, which it does not. I'm just saying if you know Ronaldo, there's a 95 % chance you know Speed. No. I think so. I think there's a lot of old people that know Ronaldo though, that have no idea what streaming is. Oh, definitely. I think, well, speed transcends streaming. How? He's an athlete. No, he's streaming it. But he's streaming that.

24:13PFT Commenter:He's not an athlete. He's like a pretty good, he's pretty athletic. He's a very athletic guy as far as guys go. People don't know him as an athlete that don't stream. There's no one's like, oh, I show speed. Is he an athlete? No, they're like, he's a streamer who does athletics. I think he might be an athletic guy with a cam on, too. You could look at it both ways. But he's not like Ronaldo where it's like if you watch sports, you know who Ronaldo is. If you watch sports, you don't know who iShowSpeed is. I think if you watch soccer, you know Speed. No. A lot of soccer fans do. But if you watch soccer, you know who Barron Trump is.

24:45If you're doing a pre-show for the World Cup, will we consider that a big sporting event? Yeah. If they're doing pre-shows for World Cup, they're inviting Speed on the mic. Trump was literally invited. He was at the FIFA opening ceremony. He was at the Trump Kennedy Center. was getting the first ever i think you're kind of forgetting this part zach yes he is the first and only recipient of the fifa peace prize for accomplishments in the field of peace that's good to know that fifa is familiar with trump and speed yeah that's huge for both of them like i said trump's a huge name transit he's a global name right what i'm hearing though is that if trump decided to start streaming he could put up some numbers ai says donald trump is significantly

25:24PFT Commenter:more well known than i do feel like that's american ai you're looking up yeah on american Is that Grock? No, I'm using Microsoft Copilot. It says significantly, significantly more well-known. You guys familiar with that, anime or manga? I'm familiar with those words. So One Piece is a manga series, the biggest manga series of all time as far as sales goes. He bridges the gap between soccer and manga, soccer and anime. Okay. We're just talking about two massive audiences that all know speed. Okay, Trump kind of bridges the two massive audiences of the nation of the United States and the nation of China, and also the nation of India.

26:04And also everybody in India knows him too. Yeah, he's huge. Trump's huge.

26:08PFT Commenter:Do you think who knows Trump more if you go Mexico? Okay. Do more Mexicans know Trump or I shall speak? I think a lot of people in Mexico know both of them for sure. I don't think so. Oh, did you guys hear? what I think I think someone who knew knows Trump just passed away and some oh and a kid just clicked a speed video oh okay demographics changing ever-changing got a second got it you know oh wait oh I got an update a kid just uh passed away because he was looking at his phone he got hit by a car while watching an iShowSpeed video rest in peace yeah it's really sad maybe we reach out to speed see if he covers the funeral woody i have no idea who do you think canada uh in canada who knows trevor speed i'm trying to find the this is not a touch screen that's my bad what are we looking for canada but this is crazy it is crazy zach do you think you have a bias do you are a streamer oh no i think trump is huge i think trump's massive i'm just saying yeah well he's perfect he's the same weight as lamar jackson is trump bringing out this kind of crowd kenya these are people on the streets every age this demo is everywhere how much of that is a crowd of i i show speed fans how much of it is it started as a few people and then they're like oh shit a crowd i think this is like oh my goodness speeds in kenya speed transcends streaming the demo of people in this crowd right now age between 12 and 55 exactly 12 and 75 but this is a country that has like kenya has the internet they've got they're a developed country yeah for sure access to the internet everywhere yes i just want to show some crowd work some people some boots on the ground okay uh this is just speed going ronaldo's house you're making it sound like we're speed haters which i i don't want to put myself in that camp i don't want to sound like i'm just i'm trashing the guy no i don't think you're a hater whatsoever we're just talking numbies yeah just strictly from the data what are his what what are his videos get how many how many watches give me an average watch quick pull yeah is he what's his main thing is he on youtube what is he on he's got 37 000 people watching him right now you have 30 000 people watching you do fucking fast food eating yeah we were eating we were eating the dug dug that's that's fair but this is just him kicking in his bedroom with his brother you guys did assemble the avengers okay which it was good group it was not the avengers it was fun i felt like the Avengers.

28:38I enjoyed watching that from home. I was really envious. That was so much fun. YouTube's not his number one platform. It's Twitch, right? I would say he streams YouTube's probably the biggest platform. Oh, so then

28:45PFT Commenter:this is a blowout. Come on. What were the final views on one of his streams? On his last stream? 3 million? That's incredible numbers. 4 million, 16 minutes. Incredible numbers. Come on, Zach. What are you saying? It's incredible numbers, but come on. I think globally, like it's a little bit skewed here in the United States, but globally. I don't think that you understand that people know who Donald Trump is outside of America. Trump is huge. You just are, you know what you are? You're wowed by the fact that there's like a crowd in Kenya for speed or a crowd in China for speed. Those are massive countries.

29:21Yeah, that's true. We're talking Zambia, Indonesia, every country in South America. Yeah. We're just talking globally. Yeah. But like if Trump rolled up to India like tomorrow and he was wearing the outfit, he was out there with Modi and he's like, I'll race anyone. Yeah. You have a crowd too. Massive crowd. But that's the thing. It's not even fake. It's just people. He has so many haters as well. But those people also know him. They know who he is. They won't show up to his. They won't show up in the crowd. But it's like, oh, yeah, I know Donald Trump. Everyone knows Donald Trump. Trump's huge.

29:52Speed might just edge him out just a little bit. Like Trump's so big. Trump sells shoes, watches. But it's just a tiny. You're not talking blowout. No, it's speed beats him out fractionally. Let me ask you this. Has Speed ever had any success like selling a Bible? Spoken word, I don't know if Speed gets in that bag. Has he ever had any success like has he started a university? University, not sure. How many buildings is Speed's name on? Again, not sure if he's on any architecture at all. I don't know if he sells shoes or watches either. Trump does both of those things. Steaks too. He is good at playing to the core.

30:26Vodka. I think Speed's core might be bigger.

30:29PFT Commenter:Oh, here's an article that hurts your case. There's a lot of those. April 13, 2025, internet icon Speed meets Chinese celebrity Trump impersonator. All the people who were watching Speed that day were like, that's Trump. Wait, wait. Do you think that Donald Trump would ever hang out with a Speed impersonator? I don't know. They did invite Speed to the White House. Maybe Adderall. He'd hang out with Adderall. No, I don't think that that's, I think, Big Cat. He's used in your argument that that's Trump's house. Yeah, but I think he went on his third invite. You're like, yeah, they invited Speed to Trump's house.

31:08That makes Speed more famous than Trump. Yeah, he's just checking out his house. I think that might have been the second or third invite, though. I don't think he went on the first one.

31:16PFT Commenter:I like that you're taking the take. I need more Zach takes. These are good takes to just throw out there, whether it be right or wrong. This one is very wrong. The takes, it's part of my take. If I were to guess, I would say that I think 3 billion people know who Donald Trump is. Yeah. Maybe 4. Maybe 4 billion. Maybe more. I think Speed might have 4.1, dude. 4.1 billion. I think it's more than that, but I'll give you 4.1 just for sake of argument. I think it's more. That's so many. Do you know how many millions that is? All of them? That's like 4 ,000 millions. It just happened again, too. Oh, somebody else died?

31:55Yeah, it did. Taylor Swift is bigger than iShowSpeed Why do you keep killing Trump supporters right now Zach What's up It sounds like you're just taking joy and announcing that No no Another Trump supporter I'm not even pro-death We're just fucking data Zach Taylor Swift is bigger than iShowSpeed Yes Taylor Swift bigger than Speed Yep Globally Music I mean music transcends everything Uh Yes Taylor Swift's pretty big Yeah She is Taylor Swift's pretty big But also it's just like Travis Kelsey also big right it's a tough like those numbers are skewed

32:30PFT Commenter:Taylor Swift is far more globally famous than iShowSpeed when you look at overall reach we might not be we might just be early here because it just happened again is iShowSpeed not wrong just early is iShowSpeed even the most famous streamer yeah who's do Mr. Beast or just any streamer just to you the most famous streamer most famous person in the world I think Mr. Beast is outside of this argument he's the biggest in the world They transcribe his videos in 60 different languages He does He's got a team Mr. Beast is an entity We could do that and say we transcribe our podcasts Mr. Beast has become the lottery for the world Kai Sinet is the biggest streamer Kai Sinet has a stream to five months He's out here like Zambia You know what I mean There's levels XQC No, XQC is super niche What about Ninja As far as globally He's massive, though.

33:24He's massive. Okay. Ninja, I like his takes on kickers. Yeah, Ninja just talks Lions with his brother now. Okay. Yeah. They just play no build, and they just talk Lions ball. Good try, Zach. To watch.

33:36PFT Commenter:Good try, good effort. We can agree Trump and Speed both huge, right? Yes. Yeah. And as far as - No, well, no. Actually, I'm going to say Speed huge, Trump massive. Both massive is one - Well, it's one have more time to increase, and one has less time - Or, I guess, infamy? I don't know. How does this work? Zach, it sounds like you have a parasocial relationship with iShowSpeed. No, we're talking data. Are you in the chat for iShowSpeed? I'm in a lot of chats, PFT. What are you commenting on the iShowSpeed chat? I've been in the chat. I'm not usually in a speed chat, no. Give me an example of one thing that you have commented in iShowSpeed chat.

34:10I don't think I have a chat log in speed chat. I don't believe you. I just see the clips on speed. Okay. Okay. But you're a diehard speed fan. No, no. Are you a speed freak? We're talking data today. Okay. Okay. It sounds like you're personally attached. No, no. A little bit. Trump's massive. A little bit. Trump's huge. But he sells watches. Just a little bit less than his shoes. He sells watches. Just a little bit less. Wait, Trump. Oh, yeah. The shoes.

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35:22PFT Commenter:I'd say this is the last show we're going to have for three weeks where there's not a ton going on because we're right before free agency. I call this the spring bump that we're about to hit. We're right before free agency. We're right before March Madness and the tournament. And then, yeah, then we're off and running, actually. I actually might take that back. This might be the last show where there's not a lot to talk about until like July. I'll tell you why. I think legal tampering starts on Monday. Yeah, legal tampering. So right now we're in the thick of illegal tampering season. Correct.

35:54Which is the new legal tampering.

35:56PFT Commenter:Max Crosby hopefully going to be traded at some point. Everyone's getting tampered with. Did you read that article in The Athletic that Michael Silver wrote? I did. So there's some interesting stuff in that article. What's interesting? Basically it said like Max Crosby, his only crime, well two things. One, his only crime is that he tries too hard. He practices too hard. and he's sick of practicing on teams that won't allow him to practice super hard. He hits quarterbacks in practice, which is against the rules, but I think if he was playing on a team with a good quarterback, he'd probably be less likely to hit them.

36:29PFT Commenter:Correct. That would be a guess. And then the other really interesting part, Tom Brady, he's the announcer on Fox. He's done a great job improving his game on Fox in terms of color analysts recently. He's also a part owner of the Las Vegas Raiders, and I think he owns, what, 4 % of the team? Something like that. But Mark Davis has pretty much given him, act like you own the entire team. He is the shadow president of football. It's a soft benching on Mark Davis' part. He soft benched himself. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And so since Tom Brady's got that full-time job working with Fox. Hank, have you read this article?

37:04PFT Commenter:Do you know where we're going with this? I'm waiting. Okay. Okay, so Tom Brady, former quarterback of the New England Patriots, he's working with Fox full-time, so he can't be at practice all the time. He can't be at the facility. Wait, if he can't be at the facility, PFT, who is at the facility for him? Hank, do you want to guess? Like a surrogate for him. I don't know. Someone probably like a trainer or something. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Pretty much a doctor. Basically a doctor. Basically a doctor. Alex Guerrero is his eyes and ears. The story that Michael Silver wrote, Alex Guerrero just keeps popping up.

37:39What's wrong with that? What's the like? Because nobody really trusts Alex Guerrero.

37:43PFT Commenter:And no one really knows what he does. And essentially, he goes to the practice and narcs to Tom Brady and also tells people they're getting cut or their job is at stake. But he's not an owner. He's not a coach. He just is. He sounds messy. He sounds like a messy bitch. He is a messy bitch. He gets the news from Tom, and he's like, oh, I got some gossip. He sits down with Mark Davis. He's like, Mark, you want the tea? What part of this is not weird to you? What do you mean? What do you mean? Is Alex Guerrero making decisions, or is he just watching practice? He's kind of everything. He's announcing.

38:24PFT Commenter:Everything and nothing all at once. He's announcing decisions. Like, if you're an owner of a team and you can't be there once you want someone that you trust to be there, that's reasonable, right? Yeah, the other owners of the team. Is that not reasonable? Yeah, or the coach or the GM. Yeah, all these other guys. The guys who've worked in football their entire lives. Guerrero's been around football for a while. Yes. Listen, Guerrero's been kicked out of more facilities than you and I have ever been admitted to. That's true. Yeah, he does sound messy, though. But that was part of the frustration is Alex Guerrero was just walking around being like, like, basically.

38:56PFT Commenter:I heard Tom doesn't like you. But if the Raiders were good, that's just clicks. That's just Mike Silver wants clicks. Oh. If the Raiders were good, that would not be an issue. I think that if, like, the issue is that the Raiders fucking suck. And that's why Max Crosby wants to be out. The reason Max Crosby wants to be out is not because of... That's actually not true. Max Crosby wants to be out because he was benched last year as the Raiders were trying to tank, and he is such a competitor that he thought that was the ultimate sin against competition and everything that he stands for. Let me ask you a question, Hank.

39:29PFT Commenter:If there was someone here who... Now, Austin is here now, but let's say Dave hired someone who has no idea how the blog game works, and he has no idea how podcasting works. He has no idea how the content game works. We've hired people like that. Hold on. Hold on. Yes. It's like everyone. Yeah. We've hired like 10 people like that over time. But let's say that that's Dave's eyes and ears and you don't really have a relationship with this person and every time you're at the golf simulator or every time you take two sandwiches on free lunch Tuesday, I know it was you. I didn't get any sandwiches.

40:05PFT Commenter:Every time you do that. Shane did? Yeah. Shane took two? Yeah. Before anyone else got one? I was the one that was trying to get the tapes released. By the time I got there, there was one shitty sandwich left. I almost got some tapes released on Hank yesterday. Oh. But I'm admitting that I could see the error of my ways, potentially. So I didn't. I want to hear that, but let me just further this, and then I want to hear the tapes. But let's just say you're on the golf simulator, and this guy walks up and has a notepad, and he goes, Huh. Okay. And then walks away, takes a note. And then Dave, you know, like maybe a week later is like, oh, Hank, all he does is golf.

40:47PFT Commenter:You would like that guy to be around the facility? That's basically what you do. Okay. I said analogy isn't hitting. I need some help. No, basically Tom has his eyes and ears and acting as a surrogate. And I think people are, if you read between the lines of what Michael Silver wrote, it seems like there's a lot that he did not write. There's a lot more that he can write about this relationship. Think about the stuff he didn't write. Yeah. I want to talk about that. I mean, Michael Silver's a vet. He knows that Tom Brady gets clicks. This is a Florio special. Florio did write aggregate Michael Silver's article.

41:20PFT Commenter:Right. And I'm sure Tom Brady was somehow the lead focus of the article. What are you shaking your head? Yeah, the athletic just preys on these bad teams. Either way. It is weird that they write so many articles that paint bad teams in a bad light. Yeah, it's bad. I do like that Max Crosby is like, I'm not going to publicly ask for a trade out of respect to the Raiders fans. Even though then this article gets written. It's basically saying I want out. Yeah, I'm going to publish all the blackmail that I have on the Raiders. It's great. It'll be a slow drip that comes out over the spring. What was the tapes you almost released on Hank?

41:59PFT Commenter:No, no. So Hank was somewhat vindicated, but what happened yesterday, we had a nice lunch that was catered for the office. It was delicious. And I went, I got in line, and I'm waiting my turn in line. And there's a group of people that are in front of me picking their sandwiches out. And I'm waiting to have my turn to select my sandwich. The people leave. I'm looking down at my phone, so I'm walking at a very slow pace. But then Hank, who was standing right behind me, just passes me on my left. You got him. cuts in line right in front of me gets the sandwich the very last of the good sandwiches and then he keeps walking and then i just look around like did that did that just happen right now so then i went i got the tapes i reviewed the tapes in hank's defense i was looking at my phone and moving slowly in the line which is why i did not release the tapes it might have been a situation where just a simple like hey on your left you can move hey they're done getting their sandwich like one of those like a little nudge would have helped like a little tap on the horn when you're behind you want me to hold your hand no no that's why i didn't release the tape spoon feed you yeah it does sound i would like to see the tapes but it does sound like you had bad line etiquette i did i did which like i think that there's room in the middle it's like if somebody's at a red light the light turns green for about a full second and instead of just like giving them a boop you just like speed around them flip them off but then roll coal in their face yeah that's And then eat their sandwich.

43:23That would also be on you. Then eat their sandwich. So it was... If the light goes green and you don't move, like, what are you doing? Yeah, it was at least 51%. You should have beeped.

43:31PFT Commenter:It was 51 % my fault. I'll take the line and share the responsibility. Wow, that's huge of you. Yeah, 51%. Hank, you can have 4 % like Alex Guerrero. It'll be fine. But yeah, there was also no sandwiches left. So I was... It was like, if there was a bunch of sandwiches, I might have been like, hey. But it was like, oh, shit. Oh, so it did factor in your mind that you wanted the last good sandwich. No, it didn't. I would like to see the tapes. That's literally what you just said. No, but I'm just saying, like, there was, like, literally two sandwiches left in the entire board because Shane ate them all.

43:58PFT Commenter:What did you pull up here, Zach or Max? I didn't mean to pull that up. Oh, you were just looking at Alex Guerrero. Yeah, I was just searching. Alex Guerrero's a weird guy. Now, for the record, I would retract everything. Yeah, no, for sure. If he were to come on the podcast. He's a weird guy. He is a weird guy. And I think having a weird guy. I do think it's like, again, it's like Tom Brady's greatest quarterback of all time. Love of my life. Greatest person I've ever known or never wished to know. What? He's also kind of a weird guy. Right. But Alex Guerrero did take him to the next level. What Alex Guerrero did for Tom Brady's career, it makes sense that Tom Brady trusts him so much.

44:38PFT Commenter:And if you're Tom Brady and you're not able to be at practice, you want someone that you can trust to be there. So it's like, yeah, he's a weird guy, but Tom Brady's a weird guy. and it's like it makes sense that he... Tom Brady has earned his weirdness, though. When Tom Brady, you see him being weird, you're like, but he's a winner. Alex Guerrero, you see him being weird, and you're like, who is this guy again? I mean, that's uncomfortable to have eyes and ears, a weird guy, eyes and ears, walking around the practice. But again, put yourself in Brady's position. Yeah. Who else would you want there?

45:09PFT Commenter:Who else would you have there? Alex Earl. Yeah, no. I'm just throwing out names. I mean, it's a Jordan situation. It's a little bit of a Jordan. What are you talking about? It's a little bit of a Jordan. How? How? How? How? If you're taking a wonder lick right now, it would be Jordan is to Belichick as Alex Guerrero is to. I said those exact words behind this booth to Zach at the start of this conversation. That makes no sense. Zero sense. It's Jordan without the crazy good sex. Do you think Alex Guerrero is in charge of doing Adobe Photoshop for Tom Brady? No. He's a trainer. I think he's just the jack of all trades.

45:49Pliability. Max has never heard of that.

45:51PFT Commenter:Oh! Actually, Max is super flexible. Max is by far the most flexible on the podcast. You know who's very pliable? Somebody that does adult competitive cheerleading. Good point. Alex Guerrero is a cheerleader. It's insane. Absolutely insane. He's a great cheerleader. You're doing great, Tom. Good job. Keep on not eating those tomatoes. I bet you he knows some shit about peptides probably does and listen I will say that if he comes on this podcast I would listen to whatever fake medical advice he gave me I love fake doctors but he's a fake doctor that's the important part to not say he's a real doctor he's a trainer we're going to do our list we have a list we're going to make a list of top quarterback free agents I think we should make two lists One is top quarterback free agents.

46:44PFT Commenter:One is top quarterbacks that might be on the move. Okay. That's like the Kyler, the Geno, that group. So let's start with top quarterback free agents. This is going to be the pardon my take official Bible because we know that there are certainly some scouts and maybe possibly GMs that listen to this show. So if you want to just take this scouts and GMs. These guys that you can sell yourself on. We will be fully on board. All right. Here's the list. I'm going to give you the list. It's obviously longer than this, but this is the list that I've come up with, and then we can sort it through. Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Marcus Mariota, Zach Wilson, Tyrod Taylor, Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, Jimmy G, Mitch, and Phil Rivers.

47:26PFT Commenter:Where do we want to start? Who's the 1-1 on this list? Is Russell Wilson on there? Russell Wilson is on there. Is it also Malik Willis? Malik Willis is, yes. So he's number one. Malik Willis, my number one. Daniel Jones, technically. Mariota? Daniel Jones, transition tag. Yeah, a team could offer him a bag. All right, Malik Willis won. I like that a lot. I think that makes sense. I think you got to go Phil Rivers, too. Right? Who would you rather have, Zach Wilson or Phil Rivers? Although, I'm not done with Zach Wilson. You're still believing? I'm still believing in Zach Wilson. I mean, he got Quindia Aragua edging him out last year.

48:07PFT Commenter:All right, so who would you want? But for this next year, was it Aaron Rodgers? If you want a winner, there's one obvious pick. Trey Lance. Nope. Who? Jimmy G. Jimmy G? He wins football games. He's been to more Super Bowls than anyone in the history of the league. It is kind of weird how Jimmy Garoppolo just kind of... That's not true. Kind of stopped being a starter. Been to more Super Bowls than anyone in the league. He went from going to Super Bowls... It's a lot of Super Bowls. How many Super Bowls has he been to? I think like seven. Has he actually? He's been to a lot. I guess. Streets are saying he's a Cardinal.

48:45PFT Commenter:Yeah, because Michael Floor was this guy from the Rams, so that would make sense. Jimmy G's Super Bowl appearances. Jimmy G on the streets of Scottsdale would be a weapon. He's played in one, right? He's played in one. And he was in the 2015 and 2017. Max is looking it up. Back up. How many times is he a backup on a Super Bowl? Max, just go to his Wikipedia, and you can just see how many rings he has. But we need appearances. Yeah, I know. But then you just add in the Eagles loss and the 49ers. But he's lost the Super Bowl because the Patriots have lost a lot of Super Bowls. How many does he have?

49:25PFT Commenter:He has three. So he's probably been to five, right? The Eagles loss, and then the loss is the Niners quarterback. Oh, wait. And he was with the Rams. He wasn't with the Rams when they went to the Super Bowl. Was he? No. He was with the Rams in 2024. Yeah, so he was not with us. So five. So close to the most ever. Decent amount of Super Bowls. More Super Bowls than a lot of people. A pretty good. That's a fact. In terms of people who have ever lived, he's up there. All right, so we want to put him three. I think it goes Malik Willis, Aaron Rodgers, Jimmy G.

49:58I think I would maybe go Tyrod number three.

50:03PFT Commenter:No, not as a starter. Over Jimmy. Backup. Over Jimmy G? Yeah, I think I'd rather have Jimmy G. He's been to more Super Bowls than anyone in the history of the game. What about Mariota? I like Mariota. Listen, Mariota is a great backup quarterback. Yeah, I think Mariota over Tyrod. Yeah, I think Marcus Mariota. No way. Did you see that Falcons game? He might be the number one backup quarterback. All right, here's what I have right now. You can tell me if we want to switch anything. I have Malik Willis 1, Aaron Rodgers 2, Jimmy G 3, Mariota 4, Tyrod 5. I think this is where you got to put in Joe Flacco and Phil Rivers.

50:36PFT Commenter:Okay. Flacco, Phil Rivers. Then the question is Mitch. But there should also be a caveat on this that if we're talking about a one-game replacement midseason at the last second, Joe Flacco's number one on this list. Rivers would be good too, but he didn't win. Yeah, it's true. But you need Flacco on four days' notice, and he will go out there. He will give you a win. Okay. Okay, here's what I have for the whole list, if we're filling it out, and you guys tell me if you want to switch anything. We have Malik Willis, one. Tell me, just say something if you don't like where they're at. Malik Willis, one.

51:15PFT Commenter:Aaron Rodgers, two. Jimmy G, three. Mariota, four. Tyrod, five. Joe Flacco, six. Phil Rivers, seven. Mitch, eight. Kenny, nine. Zach Wilson, ten. Russell Wilson, eleven. Wentz, twelve. We've got to put Wentz there. Wentz has got to be. No, he's got to go above Russ. I would put him 12. I'd personally have him 12 on my list. Okay, we can have him. I have him 10. We should put Wentz 12, Brett Favre 13. Mm-hmm. We've got to have him there. Wait, so we're not including Kyler? No, this is the second list. Kyler has not been released yet. He will be released. Got it. He shall be released. All right, so let's do the second list.

51:55PFT Commenter:I feel like that was a good list right there. The second list, the names that we could have. So this is names that are possibly being traded, released, whatever it may be. But they're currently on a team. Kyler Murray, Tua, Derek Carr, Mac Jones, Anthony Richardson, Tanner McKee, Spencer Rattler, Geno Smith. Let's talk it out. Kyler, Tua. Kyler won. Mac Jones. Mac Jones is under. Yeah, but he could be traded. That's what I'm saying. There's rumors. I think Mac Jones is the next Sam Darnold. I think there's going to be four different teams that talk themselves hard into Kyler Murray. And the matter of fact is, Kyler Murray, if he goes to the Rams and chooses to be a backup with Sean McVay and stick around there, Kyler Murray's going to go into the Hall of Fame.

52:45That's just how this is going to work out. Sean McVay's going to be like, I got my guy for the next 10 years. We'll win one more Super Bowl with Matt Stafford. Then it's Kyler. He'll be back to being elite again. but if he goes anywhere else

52:56PFT Commenter:I think it's dicey so this this list actually should technically just be the next Sam Darnold that should be the name of this list okay next Sam Darnold because I got another one for you Kyler Murray on there what Anthony Richardson no I know he's on yeah yeah so Kyler's one you want to do you want to do Mac Jones or Anthony Richardson two you like Mac Jones next Sam Darnold I like Mac Jones one okay and then Booth you want to break the tie Mack Jones or Anthony Richardson. Sorry, Mack Jones or Kyler Murray. Next, Sid Darnold. He's too small. I would rather have Kyler. Mack Jones is two. Anthony Richardson, three.

53:40PFT Commenter:That arm. Anthony Richardson, three. That arm don't quit. Daniel Jones, he could be on that list too. Where is he going to go? Who? Anthony Richardson. I don't know. but he could be the next Sam Darnold. He could. He could be better than Sam Darnold. I think Geno 4? Is it possible for Geno to be the next Sam Darnold if he was before Sam Darnold? Yeah. I mean, they share a couple teams, too. Because it's like Sam Darnold might have been the next Geno. Yeah, but he took it to the next level. No, but then he became the Super Bowl. It takes out the Geno. Then he becomes the first Sam Darnold. Right.

54:18And then now we're looking for the next guy.

54:20PFT Commenter:All right, so Geno 4, Derek Carr. Memes. Sad or Jets signing? Derek Carr or Tua? Oh, that's a good debate. I think Tua helps. Derek Carr's better, but it would be such a bummer just in general. But the Jets haven't had an interception in a while, so Tua helps that in practice. Oh, true. Good point. Okay, good point. Scout team picks? Derek Carr kills your wide receivers. Oh, Justin Fields should be in this list, too. Tua? Yeah, I think Tua would be the sadder. Okay. All right, so I'm going to throw Justin Fields in there. I got another one. Yeah. Deshaun Watson. Think about it. But he was already...

55:13PFT Commenter:I don't think he can be eligible just because he was good at one point. Like, really good. He was very good. at one point. Okay, how about Kyle Trask? Kyle Trask could be the next Sam Darnold. Next Sam Darnold. He's got to make a team. Meme said this. I keep telling him to say it in the mic, Will Levis. Oh, good one. Let's go Will Levis. Five. Okay. And then two. All right, I'm going to read this off to you guys. You tell me. I'm taking out Tanner McKee and I'm taking out Derek Carr just because they don't really apply to the next Sam Darnold. Tanner McKee wasn't a high draft pick. Derek Carr was good.

55:51PFT Commenter:Here's the next Sam Darnold list we got. One Kyler Murray, two Mac Jones, three Anthony Richardson, four Geno Smith, five Will Levis, six Justin Fields, seven Tua. I feel good about that list. I think we're going to get a Sam Darnold out of that list. There's going to be one. I feel like Geno's not in that list either. Yeah, Geno, I don't think he counts in that list. Okay, I'll take him out. I would remove him for that list. Okay. I mean, Tua's had good years Does Malik Willis count on that list? Yeah, Tua's also No, Malik Willis Well, he's also a free agent Yeah, but he was good We do a bad job of our list It's really just Once we make the graphic, it'll look good Yeah, for sure Alright, one more name for the next him Josh Johnson What if this is the year for Josh?

56:37PFT Commenter:You might put it all together How about this? Seven on this list should Argonauts Seven on this list should be Sam Darnold for those that still don't believe in Sam Darnold. He can do it. Right. Like he could still be the next Sam Darnold. Yeah. This is the year where Sam Darnold can get himself off the list of guys like Trent Dilfer and get himself onto the list of guys like Aaron Rodgers or Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's fun list making. Yeah. What else we got? Max, we were talking briefly before the show. Are you getting nervous about the bubble? The bubble. If Villanova lost last night, I would have been nervous about the bubble.

57:14But now I think we're firmly good. Firmly, firmly good. Firm good. Firm.

57:20PFT Commenter:Something hit me last night in the Badgers game. One, obviously Nolan Winter getting hurt was not good, and that seems to happen. Johnny Davis or Chucky Hepburn late in the season. Two, we really, the NIL and transfer portal, which is a lot of hand-wringing, losing the true senior day moment sucks. because Isaac Gard, Greg Gard's son, hit a three, and it was electric. Yeah. Electric moment. Yeah, that is nice. You don't have as many of those moments of guys that have been there for a really long time and stayed at one school because everyone's transferring. Yeah, the moms walking out on the court with just the biggest button that you've ever seen on their sweatshirt, the roses.

58:01That is a nice moment.

58:02PFT Commenter:It was nice. It was nice. So I think we've lost that a little bit, and we need it. I saw some tweet yesterday. I can't find it. But I think there's like 24 seniors that participated in senior day this year. Oh, you got it? There are only 22 high major scholarship players who will celebrate senior night this week having played at just one place. That's pretty crazy. That's insane. SEC had 22. Out of how many schools? Yeah, a lot. Like 60. SEC has one. one single singular season senior who stayed for the whole time that's not that's i i like my idea of if you stay out of school if you don't transfer you get an additional year yeah of eligibility or you get you know what you just get a phd automatic that's that's also you don't have to go to class you just get a phd you're just a doctor dr marshall henderson that would be great yeah yeah dr isaac guard uh he might be here this week yeah next week yeah i know yeah howdy toddy there's a interesting debate we can embrace debate if you'd like to i had one more college basketball than i want to embrace the debate the one last college basketball credit to bruce pearl because he has been you know the the thing that he said about my of ohio on on over this weekend everyone coming after him he did have a quote that i i appreciated he said am i rooting for my son to make the ncaa tournament of course i am did i help my son get the auburn job nepotism Of course I did.

59:32PFT Commenter:Credit to him. He just went out and admitted it. Because I didn't know. I was kind of 50-50. Like, how did this guy, how does Steven Pearl get this job? And why is Bruce Pearl so enamored with Auburn this year? And then he was like, hey, guys, that's actually my son, and I got him the job. That's why I'm rooting for him. I think his hand was a little bit, like, there's no chance that he could ever say anything besides that. It was so obvious that he was like, listen, they got me dead to rights. Yeah, fuck. They got me. You know what? I'm going to have to come out and say it. I got to take a plea deal.

59:59PFT Commenter:they're sniffing around they're starting to connect too many dots yep they got me but yeah that was and yeah we started conference championship week we have the Long Island University the shark fin did you guys see fins up yeah I like fins up I used to go to games there so it's in Brooklyn Long Island University it's a mile from my old apartment in Dumbo so I used to take my son to those games you can just walk in it's free and I'm so mad I miss Finn's up. Shout out Finn's up because it's for people who didn't see it. Long Island University has a gym that looks like the dolphins. Yes, I believe so.

1:00:38PFT Commenter:That makes no sense. No, they're the sharks. Sharks with the sharks. I think they're the shark or the dolphins and the sharks. They kind of look like the Nick Nolte fake team from blue chips. Yeah, I thought that was I didn't know what that was. The sharks. When I saw the gym, I was like, what is this? It's a gym that is smaller than most high school gyms. you could just walk right in and then they are in at the time of your listeners they might have been eliminated but I think they're in the semifinals of the NEC and they have a new thing at the free throw line where their fan base yells fins up and then everyone goes like the safety symbol and it's like six people I was gonna say by fan base you mean it's like the size of care but it's a lot careful probably the hardest place to play in the country they bring in intensity in that gym it's hank i'd like to see you go i bet you couldn't go four for ten from the line in that gym easily you almost went to this school well it used to be liu brook there used to be liu brooklyn and liu post and then they merged into one school but i almost i was talking to the liu brooklyn baseball coach for a while about potentially going.

1:01:45PFT Commenter:It is a very funny color scheme and nickname because this school is in downtown Brooklyn, essentially. Like, downtown Brooklyn. Like, it's not too far from where the Nets play. And having a turquoise shark. Like, it seems like this should be a team that's playing in Southern California. It does. It does. But I love them. The fins up guy is intimidating as fuck. Fins up. Yep. Yep. Bang. It is electric. Got him. It is like you can hear the fins reverberating off the back wall. It's so good. It's so good. I'm mad that I never got to fins up. Yeah. So it's a new thing. Did this guy start? I don't know.

1:02:26PFT Commenter:It was. I took my son to a couple games. One of the games, the vibe at these games are so lax. And like I said, it doesn't cost to get in there that one of the games, my son was probably like two and a half. He was essentially like sitting in the coach's lap by the end of the game. He had gone all the way up and was on the court because it's just like, whatever. And it's great. Fins up. Shout out to Fins up crew. We're big fans. I love them. I hope they get in the tournament. We'll be Fins upping the whole time. Okay, so what was your embrace debate? Embrace debate. This was actually discussed this morning on, I believe it was on First Take, but Stephen A.

1:03:03Smith and Jay Williams got into it. So I'm curious, honestly, to hear your take on this question. It's regarding the NBA. Okay. Are the Boston Celtics Jalen Browns or Jason Tatum's team? Discuss. Discuss amongst yourselves. I can give points for either side if you'd like some cheat sheets. But whose team do you think they are? I think they're Joe Mazzullo's team. That was not the option. Celtics Browns or are they Tatum's team? I don't understand the question.

1:03:38PFT Commenter:You need five players on the court at all times. Yeah, but I guess another way to think about this is who's Batman and who's Robin. But that's two people out of five. Yeah, well, there's also Batgirl. There's like Justice League. You got Alfred. If we're talking Justice League, then it's like, who's your favorite superhero? Right. Peyton Pitcher's The Flash. Right, so when the Patriots won all those Super Bowls, You could say it's Tom Brady's team, right? Tom Brady was a quarterback. You could say it was Bill Belichick's team. Okay. Really depends which way you're talking about it. I just thought it was an interesting new twist on a debate that I hadn't heard before.

1:04:16What do you think, PFT? I think it's a ridiculous concept for a debate, and I think it's beneath the integrity of the show to even discuss it. But you're entertaining it, which makes me think that you get an interesting talk.

1:04:25PFT Commenter:No, I'm just trying to get clarification. Is there a date for Jason Tatum to come back? No, we're just on injury report watch. Okay. They said, what was it, 314? Did you guys see? I think it's Peyton Pritchard's team. Did you guys see SGA's outfit? I have to assume he was doing this as a troll, and I loved it. He looked like, yeah, I've got one of those zip-up ones. Like the one-piece ones. It's a great coat. It's a great coat. It's a great coat. But him doing the interview in that coat was even funnier, where it's like you can't even see him talking. I think you only are able to do that if you win MVP.

1:05:02if he was like second place last year I don't think you can wear that

1:05:06PFT Commenter:coat alright so Carmelo Anthony says Jason Tidham needs to be very mature when he returns knowing it's Jalen Brown's team this season I actually agree with this season this season it is Jalen Brown's team yeah you can't come in midstream and be like hey it's going to be exactly the same and also Jason Tidham coming back from the Achilles going forward it might change but this season it's Jalen Brown's I agree with that I mean in the episode of his last comeback episode He was like, you know, I ain't coming back to be a role player. But that, Robbins, you know, he can be the second option and they can still win a championship.

1:05:40See, I don't like that because everyone's a role player. You got to be willing to, even the biggest star on the team has to be able to embrace becoming a role player.

1:05:48PFT Commenter:True. Do we care, last thing before we get to Roger Bennett, do we care at all about the WBC? I think I care once we're in the semifinals or finals. I care about. What time are the games going to be? We're playing Brazil on Friday at some point. It's early. At some point. I don't care about Brazil. I don't care about Brazil either. I think once we get, if we're playing like the Dominican Republic or Japan, I'm in. What about Italy? Italy's got a roster. I'd like to smoke Italy. Italy's got a roster. I bet on Australia over Chinese Taipei last night. Taiwan? Australia won. Do you mean Taiwan, Max?

1:06:27And here they call it Chinese. In the boot? In the booth where you guys just award territory. We've discussed this before, Max. I was just saying that's what they... You think that Taiwan is property of China. That's what the World Baseball Classic calls it. I'm going to call it Taiwan. Okay. Zach, are you a Taiwan guy? That's Taiwan. I agree. Max, you're a type A guy? I'm just a reading guy. Max is definitely a type A guy. Max. What does our government call it? Our government? Taiwan?

1:06:56PFT Commenter:on max what would you what i feel really bad for the players on team italy that don't have a vowel to end their last name there's a couple they shouldn't be allowed on andrew fletcher's on on can't be on that's that's tough you got some really good names um and then you got a couple guys i mean kyle teal's on the team i don't know who's that guy on australia is it bazuna I don't know Pizzuna Pizzuna hit a fucking monster shot last night He's a very good player I was wondering why he wasn't on Italy It seems like that guy should be Italian Yeah, they should just scoop up everyone Actually, Shohei should be on Italy They asked Shane Victorino to be on the team Victorino?

1:07:38Yeah, we talked about that in our interview with him Because they had a vowel in his last name They thought he was Italian Yeah, I want the U.S. to win the World Baseball Classic because I think it goes towards my overall goal for this year. I would like to win the Triple Crown. Yes.

1:07:55PFT Commenter:As a nation. I would like to win the gold medals. I guess it would be like a quadruple crown, a Grand Slam. Wait, what are they? That's what you call a quadruple crown, right? No, no, but what are the other? The gold medal? Women's hockey, men's hockey. Yep. And World Baseball Classic, World Cup. Oh, but I think even if we won the Super Bowl. Again. Yeah. So that would be the... And also we're hosting the Masters again. The big five. Yeah. Hosting the Masters is big. The big five. And then the sixth major, which would be the players. No, I would love so much to win the World Baseball Classic and then the World Cup.

1:08:29And it would just be the summer of America.

1:08:31PFT Commenter:I can't stop thinking about Shohei on Team Italy. I need it. Why not? Why not? Put Shohei on Team Italy. He's got a lot of connections in the mob. Uh-huh. He knows a guy or two. He knows some mafia, dude. If we win the World Cup, I will commit to soccer. Oh, I thought you were going a different direction. Get a cat. Before you said the word soccer, that was... Hank, you know what? If we win the World Cup, I'll get a cat with you. Yeah, sure. All right, we'll both get cats if we win the World Cup. I can't get a cat. I just can't do that. All right. But I'll get another dog. No, that doesn't count.

1:09:10PFT Commenter:That's so American. No, that doesn't count. You've got to get a ferret. Is that American? You gotta get a ferret What's the most American rodent I can get? You gotta get an animal you don't want You gotta get a ferret Okay, I'll get a ferret Are those legal here? Sure The law is very It's fungible What are you guys getting? I'll go prairie dog Okay, prairie dog Max Soul patch for a year Why? Why? We're not going to win the World Cup. No. I'll do that if Hank does that, too. I'm getting a cat. He's getting a cat. I'd rather... All right, so you get a cat. I'll do a soul patch. Deal. Oh, I'm allergic to cats.

1:09:57Deal. Wait, but I want to root to win the World Cup. I do, too.

1:10:01PFT Commenter:I don't want to root to get a cat. Yeah, that's actually true. We should just not do that. Yeah, because we're going to end up rooting against... We're never going to even be in a position. We should actually just do something. We should make it something that we actually want to do as a reward for ourselves. Yes. If we win the World Cup. Blowjob week. Memes in. I was going to say I was going to enlist, but yeah, I'm down to not. Okay. If we win the World Cup, I'll enlist in the Air Force. Yeah. Just do a tour. I'll enlist in the Air Force if we win the World Cup. You're way too old. You're just getting high.

1:10:31Thanks for leading with too old instead of too short. That was awesome. Fuck you. I'm back. I thought everyone in the Air Force was short. No.

1:10:39PFT Commenter:Not as short as him. You're sitting down. You got to be like six feet. No, I think Air Force is short. Yeah, you can't be too tall if you're going to be sitting in one of those cockpit. All right, so we're off on all these deals. We'll think of something good that we want. Or we'll just make a group bet. We'll just make a group bet on USA. And also maybe blowjob week. And blowjob week. Who's starting with giving? Head reviews. Yo, what's up? This is PFT. I'm over here at the suck station. One suck. Everyone knows the rules. one lick you have to be at least four foot ten oh yeah oh i easily easily got that easy that's easy money easy okay uh let's get to our interview with roger bennett we're gonna talk some world cup maybe we'll we'll continue this conversation then when we uh finish roger bennett we'll do some fire fest hey it's hannah montoya abercrombie's new summer drop is our latest obsession there's tons of colorful swim flowy dresses and they just released new linen blend matching sets.

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1:12:24PFT Commenter:Recurring guest, friend of the program. It is Roger Bennett, Men in Blazers and he has a new book out because we are 100 days We're actually, what, 97 days? Who's counting? 97 days as you're listening to this away from the World Cup in North America. We are the World Cup, a personal history of the world's greatest sporting event. You wrote this book. Words. I got to talk. First of all, thank you for coming by. And let's just, history of the World Cup. Tell us all the history of the World Cup. In three or four words. Yeah. Personal history. It's an incredible history of English failure. Yeah. True.

1:13:01really it's true it's like that's probably that's where it begins and ends american big dreams yes is there a chapter in here that's like england and it just says missed pk there is actually a history of english football that i use for my research it's called 40 years of shit which is one of my favorite and uh yeah it's one of my favorite tomes i mean england are and i support america now for your audience i know i sound like a citizen yeah thank god yeah yeah i I mean, I love this nation like Kenny Powers loves this nation. Our women kick ass and take names on men. We love a dream team. We're trying.

1:13:39Yeah. We do try. We've won one knockout game in our entire history, going all the way back to George Washington. So there's work to do. It's like a dream on team. Wait, is that true? So we beat Mexico, right? Yes. We've never beaten a team in the entire planet other than Mexico.

1:13:56PFT Commenter:And we always beat them dos a zero. We do always. God blesses. In Columbus in, like, March when it's snowing. We've beaten them in the knockout. You've got good knowledge, man. And that's it. I mean, that team. We put a man on the moon. We invented the croonet. Yeah. All of this crap. I'd say those two things, English failure and American big dreams. That's kind of the World Cup, baby. The 2002 team, I still maintain that, like, that team was special. And that team couldn't. It should have gone to the semifinals in the World Cup. We should have been there. I love your love of it. I mean, there's a number of times they had like fresh, clear water in front of them.

1:14:322010, the Landon Donovan moment, which turned so many people on to football. And every single World Cup has made America more and more a football-loving nation. 1994, World Cup was here. Right before it, Jack Kemp, the quarterback, the Rams quarterback, who's a congressman, he went on to the floor of Congress. Any other nation would be like, we got the World Cup. Biggest thing that's going to ever happen to our nation. Jack Kemp ran to the floor of Congress and he said, I think it's really important that we tell American children that football is where you rush with it and throw it and catch it and use your hands and not where you kick it.

1:15:09And he said, this is real words. He said, one is American capitalism. The other is European socialism. You guys hate it. There was a study before the last World Cup, 94, where soccer was found to be America's 67th most favorite sport and tractor pulling was 66. You like taking the piss. And that's the other story is that, you know, America is now a football loving nation, which is hard to understand. It's like a young audience. It's got bigger World Cup to World Cup. I just did a Rod show, which was like a great honor. And he essentially asked me 10 questions, all of which were the same. like when are we gonna like football yeah and i was like hey rod like the economist just found out that soccer is the third biggest sport in america popularity wise he said where's baseball i said it's fourth now hey rod no and it was like telling in a flat earth that the um you know the world is round baby but that's that that's where we are now you're ahead of the curve man i mean yeah i i love the world cup it's it's probably my favorite sporting event every four years and the fact I don't know.

1:16:13There's just something. I don't really care much for European football or European soccer. I don't really care about the EPL. I don't care about the Champions League. I don't really care about the MLS. But when it comes time for the international competitions, for some reason, it's just like it's the pride that goes into it. It's the people from all around the world. It's the stupid things, like the little pop culture icons that pop up every four years that you learn about and you care about very deeply for a four-week span, and then you completely forget about them. The fans in the stands. You like watching English people just fire rockets out of their anal cavities.

1:16:47It's like you guys are like, oh, I'm into this.

1:16:49PFT Commenter:The fat English guys with tattoos everywhere. Just English guys. Yeah, but they've been in the sun for five minutes and they look like a lobster. All the stuff. There's always one hot chick that just gets uber famous. She's shown on camera for about two seconds and then her life changes. And she becomes a millionaire. That's some old guy crying. Remember the Brazilian guy crying? It sounds like SEC football. Yeah, it is. It's very similar. I like saying it's coming home. I like saying that and then not really believing it or knowing what it means. Actually, is it coming home? That's the deepest question I think you'll ever ask anyone.

1:17:25Is it ever coming home? So it's coming home is a song of English longing. Like England invented football. We think we should win it by right. We win it once, 1966, on home turf. Like every English school kid. It's like 1985, 86 in Chicago. it's like that was the year 1966 is like the year everyone dreams of it and english football there's nothing like it the whole nation i mean it's what the joy of sports man is that you make yourself believe when all evidence points to the contrary unless you're a new york jets fan and you're just like you're just like in it and they dream and they make themselves believe and then they shit the bed yeah the most self-sabotage it's like watching charlie brown run out of football the whole nation is charlie brown with lucy kicking apart from like the whole nation's been like lucy do that thing again yeah thing where i eff up where i feel an agony where i feel a national trauma and it's the most english thing that ever english so all right so i want to talk uh about the book

1:18:21PFT Commenter:but i want to keep going down this line of like the big dreams of america the shit of england and charlie brown can we do a couple other countries like what's what's what's brazil what is brazil historically world obviously they've won world cups they play beautiful but they also flop a lot a lot yeah it's flopping so what is that like you know in terms of you know maybe it's this tournament or just in general in history we just did we just did a show last night in houston with jj watt where he's like he went off on the flopping he owns a team in the premier league this child of wisconsin who grew up playing hockey and gridiron like fell in love he came on our show like did a football thing it was fine he kind of knew his stuff kind of didn't and then he asked to come on like a couple of months later and i was like cool and in my head i was like we kind of did you know we did it we did all we could he goes none he goes i've been down a youtube wormhole and there we go and he came back on and um he knew i mean it's not that hard to know more than me he knew a lot more than me i said what happened man he said i've just fallen in love with this crap i'm gonna go and buy a premier league team i'm like all in on this thing and when we have jj watt this child of wisconsin living for like this for burnley it's like the allentown pennsylvania of england football club we've kind of got everybody yeah no jj also is like he he jumps all the way in i mean look what he's done as a commentator like on games he's so good at it and he's just like yeah it should be illegal to be able to beat up pretty well anybody in the united states of america and then out think them yeah yeah that's a that's university wisconsin education so what let's talk about this let's talk about this world cup who are the teams does spain still do ticky tacky or whatever the hell it's called oh brazil oh yeah yeah brazil is like you walk down cooper cabana beach you know they love barry manolo they're really all in on that man name a beach You have to have like 100 ,000 people playing football, keepy-uppies.

1:20:20And you're looking at it, you're like, oh, my God. Any one of those people, man, woman, there's dogs that can do keepy-uppies there. They could probably get into the U.S. team. And you're like, wow. This scale, the passion, the way it's just woven in. It's like high school basketball in Indiana. It's impossible to tell the soul of the place without football as a freedom of expression. and so you're kind of there and you're like wow we've got ways to go i mean spain is i don't know what the american equivalent is they have such a tactical discipline they develop like little ewoks they bred the ewok playing footballers who were just so comfortable it's like they wear the the ball inside their boot it's like the way what they can do with it it's just utterly transcendent i don't know what they're playing on the you know 4d level yeah yeah do they still do the

1:21:10PFT Commenter:because the tiki tag is kind of maybe a little bit like west coast offense where it's like hey It's short passes, ball control. Like, you know, and then we'll just kind of, we'll just keep doing it and you can't stop it. And then eventually we'll break open the big one. And it's just woven into the fabric of their society. The thing they do that we don't is that they don't give a crap whether their kids win or lose. Like in America, you guys love to win. Yeah. Well, we're winners. I don't know if you saw the gold medal game. We're winners. I know. And if we lose, we just pretend it didn't happen.

1:21:42PFT Commenter:Right. you can't win it or it doesn't matter yeah but under seven soccer under eight soccer no one really cares yeah and so to win at under eight under nine under ten soccer in america you just put the big kid in yeah and he just mows everybody down there's always someone who's like william refrigerator perry just mowing down other six seven year olds and that's how you win it under seven under eight under nine in spain i like sod the score leave the little kids in let them enjoy let them destroy or come as where their little origami passes. Because they don't ever give a crap about the results until they play for the big boys.

1:22:15When they do, they destroy all of us. In America, sometimes your impulse to win, our impulse to win is actually holding us back. Yeah, it is. I've always thought that with America, and this is true I think with soccer as a whole, if you want to win a World Cup, first you have to actually believe that you can win a World Cup. Because if you don't have that true belief that you can do it, there's so many, like the entire game is just a constant fluid game. You're not going to be playing as passionately as hard as somebody that truly believes that they can win a World Cup. And we need a crazy motherfucker.

1:22:48We need one guy on our team who's absolutely fucking insane that really believes that we can win a World Cup. And then that gets contagious for the rest of the team. So I don't know how much you know about what the projected U.S. men's team roster is going to be. but do you know if we have a crazy motherfucker like the old like brian bosworth kind of mentality yeah tying his ripping his shirt sleeves off like around the head by the way you've nailed it man the world knows that we know that they know that we know that they know that we're crap at men's football and it's like the last thing america's crap and the whole world the soccer thing like in england by the way they call it soccer the biggest show on english television is soccer Saturday no one laughs at it but when we do so and they say soccer like the whole world laughs at us for calling it soccer mostly because we're so insecure about it we kind of back off when they laugh at us so the world loves that we are still inferior there and when you speak to players from like 2006 2010 when they played that big team for the first time and you asked them did you really think when you took the field against Belgium in 2014 that you guys looking at each other being like we're gonna win this game and they'll tell you off the record they'll be like not really and that's really what it takes but the funny the odd thing is that 1994 team that took the field you were a baby you're like eight nine they took the field in like stonewashed denim jerseys like mullets football world had never seen mullets to that point it was like what is that ginger hair you know swaggering on they were these kids were like college players they were not very few of them had played in Europe and they didn't know what they didn't know and they were really fearless you know I interviewed a couple of them uh for this book and one that 1990 was the first time the U.S.

1:24:34men got back into the World Cup since 1950 we've been like off the off the you know just like reduced to a rubble we got back in 90 they were like tourists with really good tickets they got their ass kicked by everybody 94 they did the thing like they didn't crap their pants with the nation watch and they got noble valiant defeat and then what um they all said you know what we believed was 90 we showed the world we could qualify 94 we showed the world we belonged and the most american thing ever they're like 98 we were going to show the world we could win it yes and they and we're still waiting last place last place man they got beat by iran with the nation watching and they you know barely scored a goal so that american mentality yeah i mean we're far away i think we having that human being we also like the max crosby kind of like yeah yeah

1:25:24PFT Commenter:he needs a he needs a team yeah he needs a team we need we need more grit like that that was the thing when watching the gold couple is it two years ago we were soft so if we suck at soccer that's fine we can't be soft and suck and that was what i hated watching god we gotta get you in the locker room we just gotta be we gotta be a little tougher we gotta rough them up we gotta There's a coaching future for you. Get dirty with it. Can we not be soft? Am I right with the Gold Cup? The Gold Cup was the one that we were just getting bullied. You're right. The best U.S. teams I can think of, looking back, we had a couple of players.

1:26:00I'll go back to 2002. That's when I think that the U.S. actually had a chance. We should have beaten Germany. We should have been in the semifinals of the World Cup. We got fucked by a handball. We got screwed in that game. I'll go to my death thinking that we should have beaten Germany. but that team had like two guys that were just fucking monsters Aguchi Onyewu who was like 220 pounds 6 '3 and like just pushed people over and then a guy named Big Cat, Tony Santa the Big Cat, he was like a role player on defense but he was also a guy that like didn't take any shit we need those guys on this team you know that would be I do love, your knowledge is breathtaking, it's only about the US It's working with this Swansea owner.

1:26:44It's like working with this man. I don't know if I still own any part of Swansea. How do you not know?

1:26:49PFT Commenter:I feel like we... I don't know. I got to look it up. You were like ahead of the curve there, man. You were like way... It was like you were in that moment the first massive global superstar to buy into Welsh football. And I would get blamed for things on the message boards. And now 2026. Yeah. Snoop Dogg is going to your team. Yeah. He's investing in Swansea? He heard you owned a little bit. Okay. He wanted to dip his nose. There we go. Do you not see this? This is so mad, man. This is where we are. I can't say. Yeah, listen. I got three kids now. I got into Swansea when I didn't have kids. You've given the gift.

1:27:29You broke the seal. Now everyone's flooding in. All these followers like Snoop following in your pathway. I'm just trying to grow the game. Snoop, I know. you care man you do it's here it's here it's hard snoop went to swansea swansea is like i can't even think of what swansea's american equivalent i'm like scratching my head oh man you will be able to know because you know the city so well you know the town the people the fat base he went down they gave out snoop towels before the game they've not sold like hardly anyone goes to the game snoop was there the whole city was there it was mobbed this is 2026 how surreal football is he did a lap of honor before the game the place went utterly berserk and so we may not be very good at football right now and please god that would change in my lifetime like i don't i just want the chicago is to win one more super bowl while i'm alive i'd love the u.s men to win a world cup you actually you actually think we can in our lifetimes the bears or no i i hope the bears the u.s men's team this country can do whatever I agree with that but it feels like the one thing we can't do is soccer well we need you in the locker room we've already solved that problem man we send you in there you give the team to knees dirty what was it bit of grit

1:28:50PFT Commenter:push them around a little you said it when you go to Brazil the dogs are playing soccer better than us they're so good the dogs are so good honestly I would watch that's a league we could build Brazilian dog soccer if I could bet on it I'm in if I can gamble on it I'm in the dogs would not do it unless you could gamble on it they're like we don't really need this but the gambling is very insane pulling it back we may not win but we own everything this is the crazy thing is that again 1994 no one cared you all hated it you protested too much I moved here I moved to Chicago had everything man that I wanted apart from football wasn't anywhere i used to have to call my dad in liverpool he'd hold the phone against the radio to follow along the team now every premier league team the majority of they're owned by americans you got boston red socks they own liverpool yeah chelsea are owned by the dodgers you've got the buccaneers family you know glazers yeah doing their you know slightly curious man is cronkey arsenal right possibly gonna win the league yeah i know they're seven points up right now i know they've got sean mcveigh just like giving little notes should we change everything do you want me to do a side a little side off world cup how's everton doing i mean everton are everton i like the bears i don't know where my bears end and my everton begins yeah with dreamers they're not going to get relegated though there's a in my book i wrote uh there's a poet eduardo galliano i'm sure a lot of people come on your show and quote edward yeah yeah no we know him well he's a gorgeous man you should have him on apart from he's dead yeah and he had had he wrote football is a pleasure that hurts is like his thing and that is it everton are a pleasure that hurts i like that and the bears i mean the bears have been the same way yeah the bears have been very much the same way so everton are kind of in that in that locus in that look all right again i wouldn't know what to do if they did start winning right i i gets confusing would you want your team like when your team lose and that's what that's your identity it's hard don't take away my losing yeah it's hard it's hard to adapt if i lose it it's very it's difficult i had i struggled i had one good year with the commanders and then i i just kind of lost my mind and i was like if you don't say that jane daniels is top five quarterback i will kill you and i like you get you feel yourself a little bit too much did you enjoy the winning you grasp onto that that that brief moment where you think that you're never going to lose again and then right back i find that i find like supporting teams that are self-defeating and heartbreakingly i do i think if that is the worst part of your life you're doing pretty well that's a good point if your sports team are absolute bollocks and everything else is like yeah it's good perspective but i don't i would not want to take away my losing is the honest i think the english people wouldn't know what to do if if then if they won in right the united states 250th anniversary and they became...

1:31:48Oh, man. I didn't even think about that. You probably take a lot of joy in watching your rivals lose, though. Like, if you root for a team that's not successful... Schadenfreude. The best thing you can do is just, like, I'm so glad that the New England Patriots lost the Super Bowl again. English people, which I'm not anymore, obviously American.

1:32:04PFT Commenter:By the way, we need to have you just be, like, maybe you'll just be our president because the way you talk about, like, American swagger and that we own everything, it doesn't feel as, like, in your face when it has an English accent. It works. You know what I mean? Like, we own everything. We can do anything. It's because you've got the words of swagger, but the English coating of self-loathing. Right. When we say it, we're assholes. You think about Schadenfreude. Like, if you do, there's a saying, if you gave an English person the choice between his own success and your failure, he'd choose your failure every day of the week.

1:32:42That's genuinely how England lives. That's why most football fans would, I mean, bite your arm off to be able to laugh at, you know, at their enemy's failure. Far more, I think, than you did. Winning, that joy is kind of fleeting. Yeah. Well, then you got to do it again. Yeah. Stress off managing those expectations. You've got some pressures to lose, man. You've raised the bar. Yeah. You never raise the bar. It can only be one way down. But endless joy out of your enemy's pain. The springtime thaw is finally here. Flowers are blooming. Days are longer. We're saying yes to more plans and finally getting outside, running, walking, just moving again.

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1:34:47PFT Commenter:I got a question about the book. So what's your first World Cup memory? and what was the one that's like crystallized like hey this is 1978 okay tina and what what what was it about it yeah we didn't have live television in england england's a tiny island this is kind of mental like the people that ran the football teams wouldn't allow any live football because we're about as big as like indiana and so if they were terrified if they put live games on no one would go to any you know 92 teams so we never saw live football other than going the game And when you went the game, it was played by kind of dumpy men, balding mostly, who try and kick the crap out of each other on muddy pitches.

1:35:26They'd run in, scurry into the locker room at halftime for a cigarette and a pint and a pie. And then the whole crowd would beat the shit out of each other. And it was pretty, you know, it was fun, but it was also deeply miserable when you actually thought about it. And Argentina had the World Cup and they had these incredible stadiums. And like the first thing I saw, I was seven. it was like the sun it took me a while to realize what the hell it was i was like what is that orange thing in the air my mom said it's the sun love it's the sun i was like oh because we're like a nation of mole men so i'm looking at this thing everyone's beautiful they're all in like shit and then 100 000 people the two teams take the field and the whole stadium just explodes in confetti and like toilet thousands of toilet rolls are thrown from the bleachers my mom's sitting there she goes who take a toilet roll to a football game son I was like oh show up mum this is amazing and I realized in that second football could be joyous and sports could I'd never sports was punishing sports is about having someone you didn't know from behind urinate down the back of your legs through a rolled up program and I was like I was hooked from that moment but in all seriousness the joy of the World Cup and this is I think kind of what you were saying is when two teams take the field like their nation's history their nation's politics their nation's culture takes the field alongside them and it's just the depth of all of it you know when you play Germany like the levels of storytelling there like you know when you play um well when people play America this World Cup it's going to be I mean it's going to be super multi-dimensional in the that's why panama tries to kick the crap out of us the canal crap canada uh yeah that's why we need you talking shit for us yeah sound yeah maybe he's that man have you thought i'll feed it to me you just deliver i'm just here to spread love and peace baby yeah i feel like you might be next in line for the fifa peace prize yeah i don't know if i'm worthy i don't know if you don't know if you could pay enough for it you you're not getting the fifa podcasting i mean why did fifa stop at a peace prize well we're gonna have a passing prize for peace why do they not give a price for like music so like yeah kid rock could get that and like um you know they should just expand well it doesn't give you hope that maybe we could win a world cup if you know the the tournament is put on by such a nakedly corrupt organization like fifa we could just bribe our way to it why haven't we done that well i gotta say this conversation for the past 30 minutes i think we've solved a lot of football problems and ultimately we need your action you need to follow through on all of these things.

1:38:01The dog football league. Dog football. Plus gambling. The grit. Yep. The get your knees dirty. The team talk. Get in there. I mean, the FIFA thing, it's like Roger Goodell, but global, man. Right. They do the thing. They think about different things than we do when we go to sports. And it's just different. So another team that's had a lot of success in the past, not recently, is Italy. Is Italy ever going to play in another World Cup again? they don't need to they've had so much joy the memories the memory they could live off those for forever the italian thing is very strange man what happened countries the tectonic plates the the economy bottoms out the you know i think sometime after rome fell uh things went down the toilet football is about money and the teams that do really well have tons of it and you're seeing like europe you can tell a team that's not going to do well when you go to their nation and they're nice to you know they need tourist dollars you know what i mean and so that's really it the italian the i mean it's in a tough place as the economies trump uh crumble more opportunity for you the american team the dog league so they miss the world cup again uh the very there's a very very large the playoffs there's a playoff oh yeah we still don't have all the teams we don't have them all they can play their way in still um it's like the playing game for march madness so they're in there but i do think the nation's braced but they won they won stuff yeah yeah and ultimately surrounded by that winning is dismal failure and rebuilding year would you take like i mean you don't have draft picks you don't have yeah you don't have it man you don't have like relegation that's the craziest thing relegating countries yeah yeah you guys are not a country anymore you're mad is mad though america you love like cutthroat capitalism in sports you don't have any punishments for in fact you get rewarded yeah it's like your sports are like socialism for rich guys yeah it's very yeah yeah absolutely so you don't you don't have

1:40:07PFT Commenter:you could put out the worst product ever and you'll still get a big check at the end yeah you do not and pittsburgh pirates are gonna make money it's crazy yeah right jerry reitzorf has figured it out he's a genius he bought it he bought the white socks and the bulls for like a bushel of blueberries now they're billions when you frame it like that the man is a business genius but that's the darkness man is like in football if you crap the bed you get punished for it and that is a debate there's a team tottenham hotspot who are historically a powerhouse they have like just completely and utterly destroyed the team culture the fans hate the players the players hate the fans the players hate the but everyone and that they're in deep deep deep danger of being relegated.

1:40:49PFT Commenter:They were up 1-0 on Crystal Palace when I just walked by the gambling game. I love you. If you'd walk back minutes later, you'd see they were 3-1 down and all the fans were walking out at halftime. But they're still in the Champions League. They can still win something. And their fans are debating whether they would love to win something and actually get relegated. Oh, you weren't lying. They're down 3-1. Are they still down 3-1? Yes. There you go. God bless. The darkness. They are the Chicago Bears of London. I mean, so that's it. But you can't have that in American sports, whether you would accept a dark, dark punishment and won.

1:41:23Because it would drive down the prices of the team so much that nobody would want it. No owners would agree to it. No one would want to pay$6 billion for a team if there's a chance. And that's what we're looking for.

1:41:32PFT Commenter:We've thrown out the idea that would be great for especially baseball because everyone's like, how do you fix baseball? The idea that we came up with was if you can't go over$500 for five consecutive seasons, you automatically have to sell the team. Like immediately. Five seasons. Do you guys get to dictate who the buyer is as well? No, it just goes to sale. You have to sell it. Five seasons is crazy. To not be over 500 for five seasons in baseball. When are you going to be the commissioner? Is it before or after you become the U.S. That was our best idea. There's a lot worse. It's like an iceberg.

1:42:04PFT Commenter:You don't want to go down. You don't want to see what's underneath with some of our... I thought you were going to say you want relegation. You can move the poor Tuckett Red Sox up to the major leagues. I think it would be unbelievable. It would be incredible. Yeah, it's just it's never going to happen the way that they write in the bylaws. You guys are mad. It's like you've just defended why it doesn't happen here because the team's values would deflate. Yeah, I don't hate it, but it's – I mean, I do hate it, but it's the reality, and it's never going to change. Like, the one thing that I always say is European sports fans have it figured out better than we do.

1:42:35They don't take any shit. If the teams, like, try to fuck them over, if they try to raise ticket prices, if they're in the middle of a dry spell, like, the fans will – They do the walkouts. they'll do a walk out you do i mean like any any any self-respecting fan base would go to the training ground and threaten the players with crowbars that's what you do now in america we just say hey we're tanking this is awesome by the way when i first watched the nfl it was a new orleans saints bad season it was 85 yeah and uh and i watched the saints put the fans put paper bags on their heads and be the eights yeah and i'd never seen like fan i was like i looked at it I thought, oh my God, they've still got the beer, they've still got the hot dog, life's not that bad.

1:43:17But they were making a joke out of it. I was like, why are they not ripping their shirts off, jumping onto the field and trying to kick the crap out of the players? That probably would not have ended well for the fans like this in England. But that's the biggest difference between all of this. And the American owners of the Premier League teams, that's crazy, you let your owners move teams. Right, yeah. But you're like so compliant. You're like, yeah, of course. Yeah, they own it. They can do what they want, man. Yeah. Well, no, we hate it. But you just can't do anything. It's a reality that we've kind of accepted.

1:43:50Like the owner of the athletics, John Fisher, like fuck that guy. Oh, yeah, we did. We literally went like months where we said every podcast was like, fuck that guy. Bad human being. I don't care that he's making a lot of money good for his family, I guess. But you have to realize that the one thing we don't have in America, the owners of these teams, they don't really care about the communities that they buy teams in. They just, they want their investment. I don't understand why you would, like, cheer for the Rams. It's like, when you've cheated, when you've moved to another city, it could happen again.

1:44:20I don't know why the Raiders, like the Las Vegas... But that's also an NFL problem

1:44:24PFT Commenter:because the NFL wants the big markets. The NFL is the one that pushed them to do that. But, like, the American owners go over to England, they buy the Premier League teams, and when you speak to them, they'll be like, okay, we see them as vastly underdeveloped. What does that mean? They'll be like, they're essentially content platforms. They're not really content platforms. This is the reason why our Bears are looking for a new stadium. It's not because the McCaskey – I don't think the McCaskeys necessarily want to do it. The NFL says, hey, you got to get a new stadium, so now you're worth$9 billion, so we're worth$7 billion.

1:44:58PFT Commenter:Everyone goes up. That's all they're trying to do. It's bullshit. What are we cheering for? It's tradition at this point. It's just like – Bread and circus, right? I went here when I was a kid. I used to watch the games. I watched these games with my parents. So I'm going to continue to root for that same team. I was going to say, the dog league. Yeah, I think the dog league might fix everything. I think that fixes everything. I got another question. Do they have like an NFL PA in the dog league? Is there a union? Yeah. It's got to be a tiny dog. Yeah, a tiny dog. Yeah, a tiny dog. That's when we know it's all over.

1:45:28That's when they're unionized.

1:45:30PFT Commenter:This might be a movie. This might be a new movie that we just created. Air Bud. It's a sequel to Boner Dogs. I did. I went to Spain over Christmas, and I took a tour of the stadium that they have there, the new Real Madrid Stadium. So the crazy thing about that place, and it's beautiful. I went inside. I looked around. I was like, this is an amazing stadium, and I couldn't put my finger on why I liked it so much. And then after about three minutes, it dawned on me, there are no visible advertisements anywhere in the state. They spent like$1.8 billion upgrading it. They put a lot of money into it.

1:46:02But you look around in the States and if you're at like any ballpark, it doesn't matter what sport, there's the giant banners everywhere. Your eyes, they're drawn to it. Everywhere you look, advertisement, advertisement, billboard. And this giant, giant brand new stadium that costs$2 billion or whatever it is to upgrade, there's just no advertising. And it looks clean and it looks beautiful. And I thought to myself, like, how is this even possible? Why are the owners of this team not concerned with making money like in America? What's the difference there? Because it's an awesome experience to go to a game and not have to look at all that stuff.

1:46:39Wait until Shahid, they come over here on their tour and they see the Jacksonville Jaguars Stadium with the jacuzzis and they're going to go back. Careful, careful. Don't talk about it. I'll draw it. We'll kick your ass way out. Don't go near that pool. You're going to talk about the Jaguars pool. Have I just hit a nerve?

1:46:55PFT Commenter:No, the pool is the best. I'm going to, yeah, God, that'll be, they'll be bringing all that. But it is, the Americans are like, it is content platforms. It is so unbelievably crazy. I don't know what we're cheering for. Dog leagues. You can ask me something, but. Yeah. All right. I was going to ask you, in the history of the World Cup, because this is the book. I love you. I love you. The history of the World Cup. Stay in a message for me. Best champion ever. What's the team where you're like, that was the team? United States 2034, 2038. the best i mean the world cup ended 2022 uh i mean it's quite a cliffhanger if it was a television series yeah it's like you know wow i can't wait for the next one with leonard messi uh argentina my goat um that's fighting to all that why yeah i know oh ronaldo's bigger and stronger than everyone the human beings there's a ronaldo kind of human yes and there's a leonard messi kind of yeah i'm maradona yeah by the way he did everything messi did on cocaine yeah um and he was fatter yeah um and um i just live life yeah just live that's one way to put it just live the maradona thing the messi and mbappe that was like i don't know what what super bowl that would be that was just like plato's cave football that was just like what i don't like to be hyperbolic it was like watching homer's odyssey like acted out live of every i mean that was they were just trading goals biggest moment this human being little leonor messi tiny little man looks like he's wandered out of super cuts but it's like oh my god just transcendent football star um four times he'd failed the maradona thing lingering like maradona in heaven you're not as good as me you can never be as great as me until you win he's on teams that are crazy like reckless i mean just insane all they wanted to do was just you know eat the beef drink the beer and not win the football everything was on him loses his first game to Saudi Arabia which was just like oh my god it's happening again and the stud digs deeper and ends up winning it was like watching Sisyphus like roll up rock up the hill Marv Levy would have been looking down from heaven be like respect you got there Marv Levy still alive is he really yeah hundred hundred that makes me so happy I know Is he really alive?

1:49:10Yes. Oh, God bless you, Marv Levy. Yeah. God. Yeah, isn't that great? What a great day.

1:49:16PFT Commenter:He actually lives in Chicago. 100 years old. Now you're winding me up. I swear to God, I actually went and did a radio remote with him like seven years ago. He was still sharp as could be. I'm so unbelievably happy. If you're winding me up. I would not joke about that. I want you to know. 100 years old. If I find out he's dead, I am going to be crushed. The only reason I bring it up is because Eddie, who you met before the Bears-Packers game when we saw you on the sideline. and Eddie texted me the other day. He's like, hey, do you think we should see if Marv Levy will come in? I was like, yeah, I guess.

1:49:44Bit cold for Marv. Yeah. By the way, the first time I ever came to Chicago, 1986, after the Super After Year's first American Bowl, I stayed with a Chicago kid in Northbrook, and he took me to see his grandma. We were going out to Carson's Ribs. That was very fancy back in the day. I went to pick his grandma up. I was just like this 15-year-old kid in a tower block on um uh lakeshore drive and um she goes you should introduce him to my neighbor i was like who's your neighbor she goes sid luckman oh look at that i was like what um and genuinely i rang his doorbell this beautiful lovely gorgeous old man with like old man handwriting for the autograph like the little wobbly uh little letters and then i got to spend an afternoon with sid that's incredible and now god i mean he was like half marv levy yeah we gotta get yeah we gotta We get Marv Levy here.

1:50:37Marv Levy to the gauntlet, yeah.

1:50:38PFT Commenter:All right, so anyway, Messi, that woke up. Yeah, that woke up. Marv Levy's still alive. The cliffhanger. Yeah, yeah. The cliffhanger one. Oh, by the way, the other one, though, would be Maradona, man. 1986, Diego Maradona on a terrible team. This incredible player who, I mean, you were not joking. He, like, did the blow. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Sweated out Friday. Football, Saturday. Then repeat, repeat. I mean, that was who he was. He was a squat, impudent, huge. He was like a running back. He was built like the thighs. Maurice Jones-Drew. Exactly. You couldn't knock him off the ball.

1:51:16Played England. Shadow of the Falkland War. These were my heroes, and I still rooted for the English team. And Diego Maradona, this 5 '6", little man. First goal, he punched. Is this familiar to you? Yeah, yeah.

1:51:29PFT Commenter:The hand of God. Yeah, he jumped over the goalkeeper, punched it. I don't know why the television commentator didn't actually see it. Like, it was pretty blatant. No VAR. Yeah, no VAR. The referee didn't see it. And afterwards, an incredible line, man. Like, out of a Muhammad Ali-esque, man. He said, did you handle it? And he said it was a little bit the head of Diego, a little bit the hand of God. Just incredible branding, man. But then, a couple of minutes later, while we're just reeling in agony, like, genuinely, like I was borderline going to disembowel myself it was just like my heroes being absolutely injustice he destroyed the whole team he picked the ball up deep and beat all 10 of them and one of the English players later said it was all it was a goal so breathtaking it was all I could do to not applaud it myself and so one goal like bastard second goal and when it was over I went outside and i don't know if you've ever felt like this after watching the team you love crap the bed with the world watching i got a soccer ball and just drove it through the window of the house like just in agony just like you know too many team movies i've probably watched and my dad who was a bit of a you know he's a bit of a disciplinarian bastard the glass was tinkling down and he just looked at me i was like panting like desperately sweaty like young um young james Spader and he goes he just goes son I understand I understand he's been there yeah so that's it those two 86 yeah last one please god this one yeah the world needs a bit of joy the world needs a bit of connectivity the world needs a bit of bit of coming together and feeling good about itself I would agree with that whether you're debating watching that award-winning tv drama or re-watching your comfort comedy movie for the 10th time, choices are important.

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1:53:53And now here's more Roger Bennett. What are your thoughts on the different groups? Like the group that the United States is in, I feel like we got a good draw. And then England, that felt like they were a group of death. Are they a group of death? Everyone's going to get out. Every team you care about will get out. It's a very, very large World Cup. Like three teams out of the four will get out. the thing about America that's amazing is that we were like yeah we got these teams we didn't get any good ones every other team in our group is looking at us and being like yeah we got America we didn't get when we could have got Argentina we could have got England and all that kind of thing when Shaq put his hand into the bowl and pulled out Australia he did the Lord's work it was wonderful that was a great moment in American history he did by the way you know they only use balls in drawers when they're trying to fix them now in this day age like with all the technologies that are but the amazing thing is how shack because some of those balls are hot i imagine yeah some of those balls are very cold and the amazing thing is because shack that hand is how we like i mean there would have been like micro little dots for him i was incredibly deaf yeah it was wonderful great job he should get probably what's the medal that they give out the thing of honor purple heart yeah medal of honor yeah then yeah should put that work alone it was incredible but yeah we should get out the group yeah i'd have to we have to get out of that group i if it's what australia paraguay and then to be determined probably turkey turkey okay turkey's pretty good though right they're the ones that we don't want they're annoyingly good uh we'll get out we will get out and god i've got to say landon donovan that goal 2010 um do you even remember that yeah they were on the brink of crapping the bed again going out 2-2 it was they needed to yeah they needed to beat Algeria yeah it was like the best the best distribution ever from Tim Howard on that play right it was I mean it was it was like QB1-esque it was I mean it was Friday Night Lights threw it out bit of Altidore bit of Dempsey Landon Donovan

1:55:58PFT Commenter:2-2 by the way was Portugal that was the best win of all time that was the the best win was the 1-1 with England when the New York post-road we win 1-1 yeah the the um yeah i mean that was amazing though that was a 2010 the algeria thing we were like out in the opening where we'd shat the bed again we'd failed and when america fell if england shit the bed no one really cares you know the premier league comes back on everyone forgets they all find different reasons to hate each other the if america fails it sets the game back like a decade that's the crazy thing about your what's at stake yeah like every time they shit the bed it's like you know it's like 10 years off and so they scored and it was beautiful but it was like dodging a bullet i mean they lost in the next game anyway but it gave you a sports sentiment that's what football that's what the americans need to do they need to give you moments that that you register man it was you're the threshold big cat yeah you have to know what they've done yeah and people need to see and but this will cut will be massive whether they do well or don't do well because there is an enormous audience now.

1:57:05There is like this young, huge footballing audience who, if the US do well, it's magic. If they don't, the 1994 World Cup was like, OJ did his thing on the first day. So like, it kind of like, It's a good way to put it, yeah. He did his thing. Yeah. He did his thing. He did the thing. Say what you want about OJ. Yeah. He was 100 % OJ. Yeah. He did the thing. He's true to himself. He did the thing. He did the thing. So like no one was talking about the World Cup. It was the Rockets were playing the Knicks that night. And then three days later, Ireland played Italy in the Meadowland. And like New Jersey showed up, like half of them, it was like Angela's Ashes and half of them looked like the cast of The Sopranos.

1:57:49They were all there. And it was a delirious thing. It showed America that you can all just like dig into your roots, like your hybrid identities. And so whatever happens, like it will be. You guys, that World Cup is still the biggest World Cup in terms of attendance. Oh, wow.

1:58:05PFT Commenter:Well, yeah, because of our stadiums, too. This one will smash all the records, I assume. Yeah, you guys love a circus. You love daytime drinking excuses. True. And you love, like, low productivity. Yeah. It's the perfect conference. March Madness, yeah. You know what we don't like is the time wasting. We got to do something about the time wasting. Yeah, hate it. Why can't we just do, like, why can't the clock just stop when the ball goes out of bounds in the second half? And the flop, which is worse, the flopping, the time wasting. The flopping is bad, but it'd be better if it wasn't also time wasted.

1:58:36PFT Commenter:And they also feel like they've kind of figured out the flopping. They fixed it a little bit, a little bit. What, the clock? It's a problem, man. Yeah, but I think refs have gotten a little bit better being like, it's so clear what you're doing here. Why don't we have a clock? Because electricity has only just been invented in England, I think, is part of it. But PFT is right. When you have a game and there's like 80 minutes left, or sorry it's in the 80th minute and a team is up 1-0 or 2-1 and they just sit on it it sucks Arsenal did that shit the other day right? What are you talking about? It sucks.

1:59:07PFT Commenter:What are you talking about? They get that from you. No you still gotta get first downs. You still gotta get first downs. They get that from you when you do it when you're running the clock out. Yeah but you still gotta get first downs. We didn't used to do that in the football. We learned that off you. No. No. No we did. I'll tell you how it's happening. It's happening like Joe Mazzoula is now very friendly. There's a football man, Pep Guardiola. And Pep Guardiola and Joe Mazzola have got this deep, deep friendship. They both come on our show to talk about each other. And they're like begging and borrowing.

1:59:38Sean McVeigh and Kroenke's team Arsenal, Mikel Arteta, they become very close. So like our coaches who used to exist in their own little world were the only things that mattered were like great haircuts, cologne, driving Lambos into a lamppost, walking out buying another Lambo. That was what was important about football. And now they're getting your wily American ways. They're learning to run out the clock. You watch the end of an NFL game. You still got to get first down. Chris Collinsworth is just telling us how they're going to get the minutes off the strategy. You only think that way because you grew up watching English football, so they never had late leads, so they never had to do that.

2:00:16For us, it's tough. I'm American now. I hate it so bad. If it's the second half, I saw a stat that it might have been Arsenal, but there was like 50 minutes of gameplay in the 90-minute game.

2:00:29PFT Commenter:Yeah. That's a lot. That's a lot. All right. That part you might have gotten from us because the NFL, I think it's like 11 minutes. It's crazy. But in soccer, it's like you come to expect more than that. Like 50 minutes, it's borderline like you're not watching that sport. Well, you don't watch it for that, do you? You watch it to see the players speak behind their hands. That's like, you know, there's many, many reasons why we come. I mean, the crowd shots of large-bellied man with Newcastle around there, freezing their bits off. I mean, there's lots of reasons you watch this crap. I mean, it's the culture.

2:01:01It's all of it. It's not that good.

2:01:03PFT Commenter:What about soccer with no offsides? How awesome would that be? Sky's cherry-picking? I think, you know what? I'm realizing football needs a commissioner is what it needs. It needs more invention. It needs more. I'm vibing on a couple of these things. I mean the the time of the thing is I don't understand either you are not wrong why the referee is such a prick he's like I and only I yeah I mean it is it's like it's like in England we don't have much man we used to have an empire right we had the royal family and I'm kind of yeah that's not called great we might have had a hand and screw in that one yeah yeah you started it but they definitely they definitely they definitely you didn't say no yeah so I'm not I don't I can't but we had we had that we had Downton Abbey it's over right the Beatles yeah still got the Beatles still got the Beatles always have the Beatles but like so we don't have much and so in England like when you have a tiny bit of power in life you'll find it the whole time like you know if you like people who have jobs just love effing other people over when they have a tiny little bit of leverage it's like a tiny it's like a petty and And the referee, why is the referee the only one who knows how many minutes are left and doesn't tell anybody else and we're all in the dump?

2:02:24It's like one of the great vestiges.

2:02:26PFT Commenter:He's like a bouncer or a mall security cop. It's like, all right, relax, man. Yeah, yeah. I don't have to tell you. I'm a prick. I can be a prick. I'm being a prick with everybody watching. We have no power. We have no control. I mean, it is remarkable, man. I think just if you made a rule, last 20 minutes of the game, the clock stops when the ball goes out of bounds. The clock stops on every foul, every penalty. what's wrong with that? Have a tense, like in basketball where you can have a five set you know what I mean? Like if you're just standing in the corner trying to shield the defenders and not moving You got to give the ball to the other team.

2:03:01We are about to enter an American century of football. You guys are only just turning your mind to it in every way. Like J.J. Watt last night, there's a VAR where they kick the refereeing decisions. It's like when the NFL guys go to the sidelines. The replay review, yeah. It's still very bumpy. It takes forever. It takes a long, long time. J.J.'s team was just effed over at the weekend, and he just belted out live on time. Like the owners in England say nothing. They never speak. They never do any. JJ's like, VAR's terrible. The rule should be, if it's not clear and obvious, it shouldn't take longer than 60 seconds.

2:03:38VAR should be 60 seconds. And it's all over the English papers today. They're just like, Burnley owner. JJ, what has a new idea? All of this stuff. Well,

2:03:47PFT Commenter:this is what we do as Americans. If we can't win, we're going to change the rules. Yes. We have to change the rules. Yes. The sport is stupid. We have to change the rules. Until we win. We will find the balance. Yeah. and then we take so much pride once we did it. Yeah, they were like, we did it. It was us. I have never felt more optimistic about the future. We lose. It's unfair. Then when we change the rules, we win, and then we just rub it in the entire world. Yeah, we tell everyone else, get better. We're the best in the world. We're going to ruin the game, but we're going to win. And I've got to tell you, I had to accept that.

2:04:15I would bite your arm off for that one.

2:04:18PFT Commenter:Absolutely. All right, well, Roger, this has been awesome. I got one last question. Again, everyone go buy it. The book is out now. We are the world cup. You are such a lovely human being. A personal history of the world's greatest sporting event. And Roger is so, so funny as you heard all this interview. Go buy it right now. Get excited for the World Cup. It's going to be World Cup fever. Hey, Illinois. Stellablu Coffee's new canned lattes are here and in a store near you. Crafted with 100 % Colombian coffee, each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors, espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream.

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2:05:29PFT Commenter:England out. Who's going to win the world? So you're not picking against the U.S. By the way, just... You don't care about England. I don't care about England. You're not picking against... I care about England as much as the Kazakhs. I just want to be clear. Yeah, you're not picking against the U.S. Makes me happy because my mom's happy. That's nice. Yes. You're not picking against the U.S., so we're taking him out of it. Yeah, yeah. Who's going to win the World Cup? if I was a betting man and I still had money left over after all the dog football games. You're talking to two betting men right now, so be careful.

2:05:56I would put all of my money, Big Cat. Responsibly. All of it. Responsibly. All of it on. I love Norway, man. Shut up. I just love Norway. I just love it. Do it. By the way, don't think about it. You know the best bets are just impulsive, right? Yeah, just do it. Pull the trigger. So Norway, they've not been in the tournament for a generation. oh that's great um they've got a talent-soaked squad and they've got does the word erling harlan mean anything oh yeah yeah big big thor yeah yeah big bloody thor thor wishes man he's like he's like remember when shack came into the nba and he just like was just different and he was breaking backboards and every night it was just like what did he do erling harlan is that is that man he's It's like ChatGPT created a footballer.

2:06:47I mean, he is just so powerful, so dominant. He's quite funny, too. The longer he's gone on, the more he's developed a persona. And with him leading this talent squad.

2:06:58PFT Commenter:They're only 25 to 1. I thought it was a lot crazier. Take it. Take it. By the way, it's a very odd. Five, six, seven. They're the ninth best odds. Don't even think. That's not. Don't even think, please. Imagine if they win. If I put your kids through college, big cat, it's all I can do to repay you for your generosity, your spirit, and your joy, and all that crap. Norway. Best bets are just impulsive, man. Go on. It doesn't help that Italy's 30 to 1, and they're not even in it. Not in. Yeah. They could be, though. They might be. Now, Norway, Spain, France, anyone but England, baby. Anybody, anybody, but England.

2:07:34PFT Commenter:The US is 65 to 1. The other one we got to know, because when we just hop into sports, we have to know what's the narrative around. is there a guy that hasn't won the big one is there a guy in soccer that's that's been like annoying as one of the greatest players in the world but for whatever reason they've choked in the world cup there is one and one man only in his name is christian politic no it's ronaldo yeah yeah yeah we call him penaldo yeah i mean he's like i was in um in the euros the european tournament in ukraine in 2012 and i couldn't get a hotel room um i had to sleep in the in the street overnight and then the next day the hotel came out and said hey we've got a room for you i was like cool like portugal just lost the whole team have left the hotel and i got ronaldo's room um and i walked in and like the air was like dangerously it was dangerously it wasn't like just a tiny hint it was like thick with dracon noir and i slept there i slept there for two nights and um genuinely for about 14 months after that i smelled unbelievable and everyone i shook hands with smelt of cristiano and alde too and i was just like putting his vibe out into the world he said i mean he's a preening portuguese like a show pony he hasn't won the big one he's not and it destroyed you know if you ask him get him on the show man yeah i'm on the show because you when you're in like really fit mood that's what you remind me of man oh really yeah i think you'd have a lot a preening show pony yeah like eight eight abs man yeah and he's like um i wonder if when you do get him on this couch on your casting couch that you you uh if you ask him what would he like what pisses him off more that he's never won it as a hyper competitive person or that leonor messi just did yeah and i bet you genuinely yeah he'll tell you that he's never won it but it will be oh yeah like the thing that makes him scream into the abyss and like angry and extra almond at night sometimes is that that little bastard and he's better than him yeah way better yeah ronaldo is not even the best ronaldo no he's like the third best ronaldo yeah it's what You must feel like about Colin Coward, right?

2:09:51It's like that level of like... Yeah, I mean, you got Ronaldo, then you got Fat Ronaldo, then you got Ronaldinho, and then you got Cristiano. He's the fourth best Ronaldo. God, this is real knowledge. And Ronaldinho had another name. I can't remember what it was. He got...

2:10:09PFT Commenter:Jar Jar Binks. He got... Do you talk about the Ronaldo conspiracy theories, the Brazilian Fat Ronaldo in this book? I do. God, you've got incredible knowledge. I love this man Does he like football? No But does he like conspiracy theories? Yummy yummy Is that what it is? So go buy the book It's all in there man I answer, I get to the bottom of it Some good theories about the 98 World Cup It was the man on the grassy knoll That's who did it Slash Nike

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2:12:36PFT Commenter:This is a, what, six-year Firefest in the making? Oh, no. Spiders? I didn't know. Spiders, not in season yet. But I think I have a good spider defense system. Which is? I just have, like, my dad got me, like, spray this big thing of spider, and it sprays, so I just do that every day. So your dad went to Home Depot for you? We just, I had, he just ordered for me. It was a nice gift from my dad. Shout out to my dad. He's upgraded the spider defense unit at his house. you got the iron dome i i'm not like your dad i had i love your dad made a great move i'm saying like you could have gone and gotten i had some stuff myself and my dad was just sent me a better version of what i had he's like oh yeah the big yeah it was it was a kind gesture the iron foam yeah um i didn't go to the dentist since before covid and i went a few weeks ago and then i i I went yesterday and had to get like a crown put in and like three fillings.

2:13:37PFT Commenter:And it was just a horrible experience. One of the worst three hours of my life. The dental assistant. I'm not going to roast them. But it was just a horrible experience. And the whole time I was like, I just, you know, it's the classic. If you just go every six months, it wouldn't be that bad. But if you wait forever and then go, it's way worse. And it was. I should probably go. I should probably go back at some point. but they're just going to tell me that i need to have four wisdom teeth out and i kind of don't want to hear that news but if you like go ahead roast them why aren't you roasting i i don't know it was it was just they were like it was just it was too it was like it's going to take two hours they're like all right it's 10 minutes left you're pretty much done they just have to put this little crown uh temporary thing in and she she tried like four times and then i could tell that she was getting flustered and it was one of those awkward moments where like she tried to put it in she was like she couldn't put it in she couldn't she failed like four times like she was putting it in and then had to pull it out and she put it in again put it in again she getting there pulled it out any point no and she wasn't talking either like she was there was a silent there was a silent kind of it was just like it was like she didn't give you like this never happens to me no and she wasn't yeah she was like this should have been quicker but i just can't do it and were you like Can you tell me?

2:14:56PFT Commenter:And I was like, don't worry. I got time. I can wait. But it was awkward. And then eventually the dentist had to come over and just do it. Oh, so somebody else had to go. Yeah, she finished the job. Oh. The dentist was a woman. The dentist was a woman. And so was the other dentist. Yep. Assistant. Yeah. But yeah, it just... I mean, it's not like breaking news. The dentist fucking sucks. Sucks. Mm-hmm. It was just a bad experience. This is one of my ideas. We've got to put dentists on airplanes. So you just kill two birds with one stone. It's like, hey, I have to go somewhere. I'm going to be trapped in an airplane.

2:15:34PFT Commenter:Let me just do the dentist stuff now. What do you think about just a dentist where they knock you out? I'm down for that. I can treat it like surgery. Yeah. I actually don't think they do that, unfortunately. They might. I actually still have to go back. It was my left side. I still have stuff to do on my right side. You can ask. And they were like, there's something you can do to get taken out. She also said I was like the bravest, strongest boy she's ever had. Wow. She doesn't say that to everyone. That's awesome. No chance she says that to everyone. She's like, wow, you're so brave. Did she give you a lollipop after that?

2:16:06PFT Commenter:Yeah, a sticker? Did you look at the fish in the tank in the lobby? No. You're the bravest boy we've had. Oh, he gets a sheriff's bag? Yeah. Yeah, that just sucks. That just sucks. It does. I'm happy you got the spiders figured out. Thoughts and prayers. We'll see. I'm not speaking too soon. It's not spider season. I'm going to wait for the warm. It gets warm. I don't know where they are, but they're not. You got to get to where they're at right now. It'll probably be like when we come back from Arizona, once it's a week or so of warm weather. But I'm saying you got to go bomb their house. You got to get them like they got Ayatollah.

2:16:47PFT Commenter:Yeah. No, the problem is there's just parts. There's parts that I can't access. I've talked about this before. way too much. There's cracks that you can't get to. No, there's just, yeah, there's like I have a balcony where I can just secure the perimeter, but then there's like a window in my bedroom that I can't get to the outside and I can just see them plotting. I've got an idea. Can you look up like what spiders love to build their nests in? Well, the craziest thing you can create like an environment on your deck. They fly from across the lake. They fly from Indiana. Spiders fly across the lake.

2:17:19You got some Indiana spiders that land on your balcony yes look i've looked it up it's a thing yes from across the lake this is one of those things i want to make that's why there's so many spiders on the lake it's across the lake wouldn't

2:17:33PFT Commenter:be indiana but yeah like michigan they're flying from michigan it could be indiana a little bit but that's not more that's not across i mean we got we got bears moving to indiana we could have spiders moving back to chicago that's that's that's why because i'm like why the fuck are there so many spiders and it's common all across like what are these spiders called uh i'm not Sure. Flying spiders? I'm just Googling spiders flying across Lake Michigan. Okay. The balloon spider? Yeah, that's what it is. Oh, balloon spiders. They might balloon. Fly. Do balloon spiders fly? Spiders use silk to fly by a process called ballooning.

2:18:11PFT Commenter:Young spiders usually balloon, chiefly disperse after hatching. Wow. Never knew that, Hank. Yeah. So it's not out. That's scary. It's all buildings within proximity to the lake. So they're like little drones. Yes. You're getting drone strikes. Yes. So yeah, there's always a threat. The war's never over. The second you let your guard down is the second they come back. Yeah. And you just have to have a spot where when they land, it's like the shit they don't want to land on. So they go to someone else. Stay vigilant. Yeah. All right, PFT, you were Firefest? I had a pretty good week. Really good week, actually.

2:18:49But I made one big mistake yesterday, which was I was a little bit hungry at work, and I went to the closet, our snack closet, which is wonderful. I'm glad that we are lucky enough to work in an office where we have ample snacks, and I'm trying to eat a healthy snack this time. And so I'm looking to see what we have. I ate one of the birthday cake flavored protein bars yesterday in the afternoon. And I've never farted as much in my entire life in the 18 hours since I ate that thing as I have now. What else did you eat? I had meatball soup for dinner last night.

2:19:23PFT Commenter:That could be. I'd say that's the suspect number one. You think turkey meatball soup. I eat soup almost every day. If anyone has a gut that can process. Meatball soup sounds like a fart. But there was no. That's a fart factory. Why? Just eating a fart. It's protein. I understand, but meatball soup. No, the protein mar is protein. Yeah. That's true. That's a fair point. But this is like, listen, turkey meatballs. turkey meatballs are good they won't make you fart meatball soup is delicious I'm not saying against meatball soup if I eat meatball soup I'm expecting to fart put your money where your mouth is eat two of these protein bars and then you tell me if you fart well no I gotta eat the meatball soup first you had it?

2:20:04yeah I had this exact thing did you fart a lot? I think he said he had meatball soup too no I didn't have meatball soup but I did have one of the protein bars did you fart more than normal? I don't think so

2:20:15PFT Commenter:We also went to 13 fast food restaurants on Tuesday night. That is true. I've also had some of those. Max is the only one who didn't puke. I've had like a protein cookie before that's made me fart a bunch. But I'm telling you, like there was a point in the middle of the night last night when I woke up in bed and I farted pretty much nonstop for about two minutes. I want the meatball soup. It sounds like meatball soup. It was so good. I want the meatball soup. The meatball soup looks good. I'd like to try the meatball soup to see if it's. I think we should order something. Yeah. You want to get some meatball soup?

2:20:43PFT Commenter:Can you get us some? All right. and we'll monitor the situation yeah i would like to see if that makes me fart listen it was not to me i'm telling you it was this protein bar we'll eat the meatball soup you eat the protein bar i'm telling you like there was about honestly about a 10 hour stretch where i didn't go longer than 30 seconds without farting i want the one it was the craziest thing of ever like smelly ones or just like no toots no just like cares it was constant tooting last night the meatball soup is is the tim robinson hot dogs. We're all trying to find the guy who did this. You guys are fixate on the meatball soup.

2:21:18That's a pretty standard healthy dinner.

2:21:22PFT Commenter:Turkey meatballs. I'm on PNP. That's a healthy dinner. I love meatball. Turkey meatballs. Max can't be... Yes, you can. We're saying you have to recuse yourself. We say meatball poison. You're like, I'll try it. Meatball, no. Meatball soup, good. I like meatball soup. I'm not knocking meatball soup. I'm just saying I would most likely fart if I had meatball soup. If you fart when you have meatball soup, then you fart when you have anything. We're talking chicken broth, turkey meatballs. There was cauliflower gnocchi from Trader Joe's. That was in there. Those are good. Really good. There was gnocchi.

2:22:01Gnocchi is fart. Cauliflower gnocchi. Fart. That sounds like a fart. Does cauliflower make you fart? Gnocchi does.

2:22:08PFT Commenter:yes cauliflower is is well known to cause gas and farting in many people okay could have been the cauliflower could have been the cauliflower as a as a crucif cruc cruc cruc crucifruous vegetable it contains high amounts of fiber and a complex sugar called raffinose which the body struggles to digest leading to a fermentation in the gut it also contains sulfur compounds that can produce so i think if you asked if you ask. Everything makes you fart. Yeah, everything makes you fart. Look up, do protein bars make you fart?

2:22:44Because I guarantee you that's a yes.

2:22:46PFT Commenter:Yeah, everything makes you fart, but yes, protein bars frequently cause gas, bloating, flatulence. Sugar alcohol is in there. What's a random... I think everything makes you... What foods don't make you fart? Yeah, good question. Someone throw food out there. Carrots? Celery. Chicken, fish, eggs, but that's cap. Eggs make me fart the worst. When they smell like a fart. Yeah. Carrots can cause gas. But that was a little less. That's worded a little less than the other two. White rice, gluten free bread, potatoes, quinoa. It turns out that just life makes you fart. Alright, rice generally does not cause gas.

2:23:26So rice, no farts. It's like what you feed your dog when they have an upset stomach. Yeah. Like boiled rice and boiled chicken and just like boiled beef.

2:23:35PFT Commenter:Are you getting the meatball soup, Hank? I got it. We got to get the name of the place once the show ends. Okay. Okay. I thought you made it, PFT. We're going to... Oh, you made it? I made homemade turkey meatball soup. All right. Can we just order some meatball soup, though? I got leftovers. I'd just like to order some meatball soup. I'll get you one. Now that we're talking about it. I can drive to my house and pick up the meatball soup, and we can experiment. I guess we could experiment. Okay. We'll see. But also, order some backup, just in case. Why? We're ordering meatball soup. I only need to drive home.

2:24:07We have to have the same meatball soup. If we're honestly making a scientific effort to test this.

2:24:12PFT Commenter:Right, but order some backup if you don't have enough meatball soup for all of us. There's a lot of meatball soup. All right, so we're good. Okay, you're going to go get it? I'll go get it. All right. We'll just sit in a room with a microphone. And Zach will eat the protein bar. Yeah. I'm in for birthday cake all day. Okay. Okay. Zach eats the protein bar. We eat the meatball soup. My FireFest, I have two. One, first broken bone in my house for my kids. My son broke his wrist, which I... Were you guys bone break kids? I was, big time. Broke my bones all the time. You mean like... In elementary school?

2:24:47PFT Commenter:Yeah, like I broke my wrist multiple times, broke my ankle. Never broke a bone before. Wow. Nope. Before last year when I got drunk and, you know. Oh, yeah. You broke your foot. I broke my arm like three times in the course of like two years. So I told him, I was like, look, my ambidextrous started. Yeah. I broke my leg in second grade. Yeah. And so like he was obviously nervous because he's like, you know, for a little six year old, you're just like, fuck, this sucks. I broke my arm. I was just like, look, dude, I broke my arm a ton when I was a kid. And look how rich I am. And he was just like, what?

2:25:20PFT Commenter:That's a good point. Yeah. But no, it was it quickly went from this sucks to you forget that a broken bone in elementary school is the biggest news possible. Like the whole school is like, can we see his cast? It's kind of a flex. Yeah. He's loving the attention. He's just like, this is awesome. He's got the cast. They also, did you notice they make waterproof casts now that have to get wet. Oh, so you don't even have to give up the pool in the summertime. Nothing. That rocks. It actually is bad if he doesn't get it wet every day. That rocks. Isn't that insane? They've come a long way with casts.

2:25:57Worst part by far of breaking your leg or your ankle or your foot is trying to figure out how to take a bath or a shower. Yeah. Because it's impossible.

2:26:04PFT Commenter:And it just smelled. I remember it smelling so bad when you take it off. Yeah. It would eventually. We just put a fucking garbage bag over my cast and shower. Oh, yeah. Which definitely was still getting wet. Yes. You should have the doctor. Is he going to get surgery? No. You should have the doctor do a surgery and be like, tighten up the ligaments so he can throw fastball. Yeah. It was also his offhand. He's a lefty, so he broke his right wrist, so that's not bad. Kids heal so fucking fast, it's insane. Like, if I broke my wrist right now, I'd be out for months. Yeah. It's also a good time to break out, like, way better than the summer.

2:26:39PFT Commenter:Yeah. I told him that. I was like, you're going to be in a cast for a month. You'll be fine. Honestly, it makes the second half of the school year fly by. And again, he walked in like he had the Vince McMahon walk walking into school today. Because he went from Monday, he got the temporary cast, And then Wednesday he got the hard cast and he was like, check this thing out. So the other thing, my kids are in that age where they're like starting to learn about death and everything. And it's, you know, a lot of questions about death. And we were in the car the other day, my whole family. So it was me, my wife and my three kids in the backseat.

2:27:11PFT Commenter:And my, my, I've talked about it a little bit before, but my wife's mother passed away a few years ago from ALS. Really sad. Please support ALS research. but either way we were talking about it and what and my son's like hey so your mom when she died how old was she my wife my wife was like 67 and then my daughter just goes six seven right in her face i was like god damn it it was just the perfect timing couldn't help but laugh yeah the six seven of your dead mom is crazy it's crazy it's her grandmother yeah it's your six seven or death. It's like the most possible inappropriate usage of it, but the fact that it was from such an innocent place makes it the funniest thing ever.

2:27:54Oh, we both cracked up

2:27:54PFT Commenter:very hard. They were just like, why are you laughing? It's like, forget it. Don't worry about it. Zach. My firefights this week is, so we spent a significant amount of time in the golf simulator for the stream last week. It was me, Hank, and Max. I've never been more frustrated at a day here since then. It was the most frustrated I've ever been. So I spent this last week probably three different YouTube sessions just kind of Googling, how do you swing a golf club? How does this work? There's got to be a way to do better than we did there because I know similar golf is easier than regular golf, so I can't even imagine what those swings look like in real life, IRL.

2:28:31And I've come to the conclusion that I know you've got to be, golf's an adult thing. To be an adult male, you need to be semi-competent on the golf course. And I don't think I'm ever going to be able to do that and it's never been more infuriating. I just think I'm cooked as an adult male. I don't think I'll ever have the opportunity to be golfer i've never seen zach as angry as i saw him and like we we took a little little sidebar at one point ice cream break yeah ice cream break he he was legitimately furious about like how

2:28:59PFT Commenter:poorly you were doing in the sim so zach here's the positive spin zone it's not like you joined a golf podcast that's true but i feel no you did actually frequent a lot of golf that's the thing That's the thing. Yeah. That's not true. Zach, have you thought about maybe Mayo Sox just cures everything? We put Mayo Sox on the table the other day via Twitter. It didn't reach what we needed for the Mayo feet. I'll dip my feet into anything probably to get – like it's the most emasculate – I felt small in the golf, so I've never felt that small in my entire life. You're not small. You're not small. And also the beauty of golf is you don't have to be – you don't have to be good at golf.

2:29:40PFT Commenter:You just have to be good at hanging Like if you can be an enjoyable hang While you golf poorly It's still going to be a good experience As a bad golfer You gotta be not terrible You gotta be a little good You feel like a fucking asshole When you're out there And everyone else is moving down the course That's why when I golf with my friends that are good I just don't even play half the holes Because I'm like fuck this But it's not fun It depends on your attitude, too. Nothing's worse than being... If you suck and you're an energy vampire, just... Yeah, you can't be an energy vampire. You can't be the guy...

2:30:16If you're the guy that sucks, you have to know that you're the guy that sucks.

2:30:19PFT Commenter:Correct. Yeah. Yeah, I don't play half of my shots. Yeah. I'm just like, I'm not going to get that. Max, you don't have a great time when you hit the bad shots, but when you hit those sick drives, you're like, that was fucking awesome. Yeah. And that's why I always say, and I believe it more... The more people I talk to that play golf at a high level, I genuinely think the best golfer that you can be is like if you shoot a 90 that is the most fun you can have golfing possibly because all the good shots feel amazing the bad shots are just like whatever i suck so who cares if you shoot a 90 that's the most fun if you shoot in the 70s consistently you're miserable when you play golf because you miss so many shots or anything that anything that's like borderline not a great shot you beat yourself up over yeah like if you can shoot in the 70s and you shoot like an 81 you had a terrible day terrible day and that's what's the fun in that but you shoot If you usually shoot like a 95 and you shoot a 90, you had the best time ever playing golf that day.

2:31:13I agree. I would just like to break 100.

2:31:15PFT Commenter:Is it because that's exactly where I'm at is already? Realistically break 50 on a nine hole because I'm more of a nine hole guy. Yeah, we're nine hole guys. Big time. I don't even know if you can get excited about the good shots when you're a bad golfer. Because you know it was an accident. You're like, what if I just do that every time? No. You're like, that's the one that keeps me coming back. You know it was an accident. I didn't really mean to do that. No, you could get excited. No, you could get excited. Maybe this is... Every time I hit a good shot on a golf course, I'm like, I'm never hitting a bad shot again.

2:31:47PFT Commenter:That's it. Something clicked. You figured it out. Yeah, it's over. I'm one step away from the pros. The YouTube searches went so poorly. My last search was like, how do you cheat in golf? The easiest sport to cheat. Oh, yeah. Actually, Zach, we should get... I meant to order that club a while ago. The one that's just... The one that you hold up to it and you press a button. Ask Kittle. Kittle's been using it. Yeah? Yeah, because he's hurt. We got to get you. In Cabo, he just had one of those. Yeah, he's got the one that shoots it. Yeah. I'm going to do it right now. Yeah, we'll get you one of those.

2:32:17PFT Commenter:Max, you have a fire fest from Tuesday night. So we did the Doug Doug challenge. Second year in a row, Max and I did it. Nine of us went to 13 restaurants and had to order the thing right before. Order the exact order the person right before us was in the drive-thru. And it was doubled. Doubled. and we had so much food, puked everywhere. How are you feeling? Diet? Yeah, I am. My fire fest about that is that I felt like okay. Like I should have. I ate so much food and I was like I should feel worse than I did. Like I ate so much food that night and it hasn't really like. I just had a normal day yesterday.

2:33:02PFT Commenter:I miss the camaraderie with the boys It was fun It was fun It's also like just moments that you'll never Like we got to Taco Bell And we got Discovery Boxes Which are It's like two chalupas, a burrito, chips And all this stuff And I was I ate the chalupas no problem I was struggling with the burrito Because it wasn't I didn't like it And Max just looked at me He's like You're full Give me that burrito And he just took it off my hands Like a fucking Just a great teammate I got this Yeah Because he could see it in my face Like I don't like this burrito He ain't heavy But he's my brother. It wasn't good.

2:33:35PFT Commenter:I mean, last one. Do you have a fire fest? No, my week was sick. You sure? Yeah. Nothing you tweeted? Maybe a little? Didn't let anything settle a little bit? Settle? Yeah, like Lou Holtz dying? Oh. Yeah, my bad, Lou. All right. Hannah, I approved this. I approved the tweet. Okay. What was the tweet for the people who missed it? The tweet was, Lou Holtz just passed away, and then Memes tweeted, the meme of the guy stopped by my biggest hater's funeral. And he said, this is from Ryan Day. Yeah, Ryan Day right now. A little quick, a little quick on the draw. It's probably like five seconds after he died.

2:34:15Yeah, but Memes and I had a little discussion, and we just ran through a bunch of simulations about, like, you know how they have people that write obituaries that have them ready to go just in case people pass away? Yeah. Like we did some simulation drills on like celebrities that die, memes quick. What do you tweet out about this guy? And he was doing really, really good. And then Hank came in and Hank actually, Hank beat memes at the simulated obituary meme game.

2:34:39PFT Commenter:That's crazy. Yeah. Did you see some of the obituaries? I think it was maybe Robert Redford. The obituary writer had died 10 years prior. A long time ago. Yeah. But this one was, I think, what did we simulate? Goodell? Like Roger Goodell passes away. And then Hank chimes in immediately. He goes, NFL players right now. And it's all the soldiers reading the magazine that says Hitler dead. Just fucking beasted on memes right in his face. Good one. Out memes them. Yeah. Okay, good show, boys. Numbers. Someone going to get it? Eight. We'll go with two. I'll go with 85. 56. I'm just reading these comments.

2:35:19A lot of the people in the comments are defending you. Be like, this shit's hilarious.

2:35:22PFT Commenter:I didn't think it was that bad. I also think that anybody... 86. He's kind of been dead for a couple months. I know. It wasn't that bad. He's old. If you're 80 plus, you had a great run. Right. I think jokes, just let them fly. 23. Yeah, Lou would have loved that. All right, everyone say their number. Two. For two sandwiches. 85.

2:35:48PFT Commenter:Someone's got to get going on this machine. 56.

2:36:02PFT Commenter:45. Anyone? Anyone? One more? One more? One more. Eight. One more. Same numbers. Two. 23. This would break my heart if it was... Me first. You want to break your heart? It was you first. Who first?

2:36:2682 82 Oh Shades Shades So close Happy birthday Why does he keep saying You took two sandwiches Oh Happy birthday to Kyle Trask How about that Happy birthday Kyle Trask And Harriet Tubman And Shaq Love you guys

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