NFL Week 16, Fastest 2 Minutes, Bears Walk Off Win Over The Packers, Panthers Beat The Bucs, Patriots & Eagles Clink, CFB Playoffs And Who's Back

25:17and it's Jameis Winston on the Washington Commanders for Christmas Day. Just make a one-time rule and let him do it. I would be okay with bringing back Heineke. Heineke would be fun. Heineke's got the experience coming off the street and playing a meaningful game for us. Flacco? Yeah, sure. What the hell? Just throw it in there. Okay. Saturday night. What's wrong? Did you guys hear that? I heard a little click. Yeah. That's okay. Bears 22, Packers 16. This was a wild game. I'm still kind of in shock. basically I mean the Bears were dead but this team is never dead and everything that had to happen happened and the Iceman I'm by the way fully in on the Iceman nickname because that's what he is that's what Caleb Williams is he's the clutchest quarterback in the NFL this season do we know where that came from I don't care he's the Iceman he is officially the Iceman him doing the cold after hitting the DJ Moore in for the touchdown game winning touchdown was insane I this game was just like i'm still sitting here on sunday night still in shock i i i celebrated and stood up so fast that i got lightheaded and thought i was going to pass out the bears are just they just they don't die because they they were dead for three quarters and it looked like they were dead than dead that ended up helping them out when they didn't kick that field goal for the two minute warning because eddie pinero is like the kairo santos sorry kairo santos is like the slowest setter upper of a field goal of all time yep and he was taking his time the clock winds down now you have to kick off or you have to kick the field goal after the two minute warning you lose that as a timeout and then you on side it and what is it like a nine percent success rate it was yeah very low but romeo dobbs i don't know what he was doing he basically like tried to not get tagged by the ball and this game played out like the 2014 nfc championship game between the Packers and the Seahawks where it's like the missed the missed kick or sorry the the onside kick then that bomb to to clinch the wind the game was insane the Bears are they just just stay in it until the fourth quarter and Caleb I mean Caleb Williams that throw to Jay Walker who that's his second catch as an NFL wide receiver he was undrafted uh rookie he actually was really good in the preseason you knew he was ready for the moment because he hit that celebration so fast and then the throw to dj more was the perfect throw and i like caleb has if you're wondering i know there's a lot of the uh the the box score watchers and completion percentage all that caleb williams hitting that throw that's not a throw that he was hitting earlier in this season or any of last season where he steps into it and just fucking rifles it and it's just a perfect perfect pass and the bear this is just the cardiac bears it was just such a thrilling awesome game that like you you know the packers usually do that to the bears or do worse but the bears did it and they're now in the playoffs because the lions lost it's it's it's just i'm at the point now where it's like the wave just ride the wave because it's just insane yeah nobody move nobody move whatever's happening is a very good thing please nobody time travel back in the past and step on an ant because this is like the margin of error is so small for all these bears wins but they do the right things every single time and they're so they're a very well coached team like the bears don't get me wrong you don't win half these games unless you have a competent coaching staff it's a coaches it's like this is the the sign that you know ben johnson it's a coach or coaches league and what he's done for this franchise and changed it in one year and yeah i i am i think i said to you guys in the kitchen after i was like we're on an all-time luck streak and I don't give a fuck because it's just you have to you have to admit that there are some very lucky elements but the thing that's different about this Bears team is that they get the lucky break but then Caleb Williams is elite in crunch time moments so he has on third down when trailing this season he has seven touchdown passes that's first in the NFL 144 passer rating first in the NFL seven touchdowns zero interceptions first in the NFL and nine completions at 20-plus yards first in the NFL.

29:25When the Bears need Caleb Williams to be elite, he has stepped up time and time again throughout this year, and they're 11-4 and in the playoffs for the first time since 2020. Do you know how many game-winning drives he has? Six. Holy shit. Six. He tied – I think he tied – so it's six drives. So they've had six wins when trailing in the final two minutes of the fourth quarter. That's crazy. That's an insane stat. That's just this season. He has six this season. I think it tied Peyton Manning for under 25. And it's just nuts. There's so many guys that do little things for this Bears. Because if you watch the Bears, you know that Cale Williams has been elite in the fourth quarter.

30:14And guys have been making big plays. The defense on a down-to-down basis has not been incredible. You know, there was moments when Malik Willis was just dicing, dicing the Bears up and the pass rush just doesn't get home. But then you have guys like Nashawn Wright, who just finds a way to get the ball. You have, you know, Josh Blackwell, the guy who blocked the kick in Las Vegas is the guy who recovered the fumble on the onside kick. Cairo Santos, Cairo Santos basically like won that game in the fact that it was very tough conditions and he just nailed a 43, 45 and 51 yarder. and the Bears offense was nothing for three quarters.

30:53That kick that he had with the wind pushing it back in like perfectly, that's unreal. Especially for a guy that has a leg that, you know, sometimes he struggles from over 50 yards. To kick it that hard into the wind and draw it in was very impressive. And then I think with Malik Willis coming to the game, I've said this for the last like year and a half, ever since Jordan Love got hurt last year, I think that Matt LaFleur calls a much better game with Malik Willis as quarterback. I'm not saying that he's a better quarterback than Jordan Love because he's not. But I think that the Packers offense, they get like LeFleur gets his back against the wall.

31:26Yeah. He gets deeper into his bag with Malik Willis in the game. And he's like, all right, fuck it. Let's just let's throw everything we got at him. And I think that the Packers can be a very dangerous team with him playing. Yeah. And he fucked us up because you're not ready for the run pass option. Like if if the nation right fumble doesn't happen, they're going in for a score there. Malik Willis hit that touchdown pass to Romeo Dobbs. It sucks that Jordan Love got concussed. I feel like that play was bad because he got concussed, but it wasn't a bad intent play. Because you could see he kind of put his head down at the last second and the defender had nowhere to go.

32:03And yeah, it sucks because you want to, like, there's quarterbacks going out just sucks when you're watching a game. We just talked about what's going to happen on Christmas. But the Packers did a million things to lose that game and the Bears capitalized on all of it. Again, I'm still in shock. I woke up this morning and I had my kids come down and watch the fourth quarter in overtime. And I was just like, that's the Iceman. That's the Iceman right there. I love it. He's the Iceman. And I don't know where the season's going, but I think you just ride the wave. It's just a ride the wave situation.

32:34Yes. And have a fucking great time. That was such a fun. I was just smiling. I didn't go to sleep till like 1.30 in the morning, just reading everything, watching everything. I put in headphones in my bed because I didn't want to wake my wife. I put in headphones laying in bed just watching every video I could watch. There's a very good chance that you get Packers-Bears in the first round. I don't want to play the Packers. Yeah. Think about how close those two games were. Yeah. And that was actually, by the way, I'm very, very happy for DJ Moore because he has had up and down, and I think everyone saw the stat floating around this year that he never had a winning season from high school all the way until this year.

33:11Yeah, pretty impressive he got to the NFL. Yeah, and it's pretty crazy to him have that moment, to step up in that moment when you have other guys injured. And I was just, and he said afterwards, it's always F the Packers. I love that. I'm just happy for DJ Moore because he's had an up and down. He was obviously the guy who loved Justin Fields, and then last year didn't go well. It's just awesome. It would just ride the wave. Everyone's feeling the good vibes. And yeah, DJ Moore making big plays, that pass. oh it was 60 yards on a rope on a rope it was 60 yards on a rope it was it was super impressive also i i would have liked a little bit more drama from the postgame handshake between ben johnson it was pretty quick i think they know they have to play again they might have we might get a yeah it feels like a collision course to play again the trilogy of the handshake and the packers by the way their defense jeff halfley is a really good defensive coordinator because without micah parsons like they they had a perfect game plan until the fourth quarter because they were like The Bears had the ball for like two possessions in the first half, essentially.

34:15That fourth down call by Ben Johnson in the first quarter was not his finest. Just run the ball. He gets cute. You have Menongai and DeAndre Swift. Just run the ball. And I was joking in the cave, because it was a chaotic cave, because you had JMU Oregon on at the same time, that I would be the worst coach slash player of all time because the whole mentality of next play, next play. the fourth down call that the bears didn't get any points on in the first quarter fucked me up well into the third quarter yeah you were talking about i was talking about it i pissed on myself because i went to the bathroom and i was just motherfucking that call and then just peed all over myself so it i'm not a next play guy i can't do the next play yeah there was a lot of piss it was so much it was a good amount it was like a i'd say a full ounce worth of piss it was like you spilled a shot of tequila on your dick it was the amount of piss that like if it weren't in the setting of Bears Packers you guys would have had every right to say I need to go see a doctor because something might be wrong you were leaking yeah yeah that's so upset your body all the holes in your body just opened up at once it was it was a significant amount of piss okay after watching this handshake again in slow-mo I'm gonna give I think Matt LaFleur won the first handshake 10-8 okay I think Ben Johnson won the second handshake I'm gonna say 10-8 because LaFleur kind of hung around there like he was waiting for a conversation ben johnson shook his hand turned his back on the floor and walked away i think it's 1-1 so we need a trilogy matt lafor is a really good coach i kept on muttering that throughout the game too when malik willis was just fucking us up it was like matt lafor is such a good coach but yeah that was um it was a hell of a game i asked you this in the cave but yeah i want you to expand on a little bit have you thought about the possibility of a Bears-Texans Super Bowl?

36:05With your pinky on the line. Yeah, I mean, I got to keep going one game at a time. I just got to. It's been a one game at a time season. Just got to go one game at a time. Ride the wave. You said that you had. Yeah, and then I thought about it more, and I was like, I really haven't because I'm just – because up until the Steelers-Lions game, I was still playing scenarios where the Bears could miss the playoffs. But after you clinch the playoffs, you should be thinking soupy. One game at a time. You're in the playoffs. But the way this team keeps winning this game, the way this team keeps winning games, it's just heart attacks in every game.

36:41But if you keep doing it, yeah. You can think one seed. What's the path of the one seed? One seed we have to win out, and then the Seahawks have to drop a game. That's doable. Yeah, I think that's what it is. Because I think we have the tiebreaker over them. That's doable. Super doable. Yeah, I mean, the 49ers will be a tough game next week. Yeah. But yeah, the Lions might not be playing for anything. I don't know. The seeding, I've spent so much time on the playoff simulator in the last three weeks that it's sickening. It's like, hey, it's too much time. I would personally be thinking soupy if I were you.

37:17I'm going to keep going. I'm going to keep riding the wave. I'm going to keep riding the wave. Max, would you be thinking soupy? You're always thinking soupy. You just said you weren't. I'm not expecting soupy. Wait, wait. So you are thinking soupy. You just said that you were always thinking soupy. I mean, I'm literally the soupy champ. I know, which is even crazier that you're not thinking it. No, I am. By the way, can we change the TV in front of us so that we can see if we have to look anything up right now? It's on The Simpsons. I also thought Tom Brady crushed this game. Dude, he's been getting better.

37:48He really has. He has. It's noticeable that he's worked on it. And some of the things he says are like, I just when it comes to announcers, you just want them to say things that you as a stupid fan don't know. Yeah. And it's like point something out that I have no idea. That would be helpful. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was crazy game. And I Packers that's a really that Packers haven't had a loss like that. No. I mean, they've had bad losses, but like that was a horrific one. I mean, if you watch that game, you have to think that the Bears are a legitimately good team. Oh, yeah. I've thought they were a legitimately good team for a month now, but it's also these games are just such coin flips and so fucking ridiculous.

38:33You can't play a team closer than having both games end in like the last play of the game. Okay. So even if it took some luck to get there at the end with the onside kick, et cetera, all that shit that went. Because like if Cairo Santos kicks before the two-minute warning. They might kick away. You kick it away deep. You might not ever touch the ball. Correct. so there's a lot there's some like sliding doors moments of luck that fourth and four four touchdown right like that's there's some moments that get you to overtime but even if you're a hater of the bears even if you're saying they're lucky as fuck which yeah they've had some luck shit that that's happened in this season to have a quarterback that can throw the ball 60 yards on a missile like a rope directly into the hands of his receiver who has maybe a half step of separation from a wider that's not luck on the same guy who picked you off two weeks ago that's not luck that is that is a that's big time that's the part he's ice man that's that that's the part i got i i have to know where he got i like the nickname it's the best i but i want to know what the uh what's the word for etymology did i get a little bit like tingly in my pants when i i shared his celebration going like this and said ice man qb1 and then he hearted the message on instagram Yes, I did.

39:47I love Caleb Williams. That's good. I fucking love him. And it's just he's the best. And Ben Johnson is the best. And this team is fun. And they believe in themselves. We have remote problems. Max was just going around circles trying to find the remote. You didn't find it? It's memes' fault. It's memes' fault, he's saying. Is it this one? No, no. No, it's not this one. This is good. Keep all of this in. We can go to the next game. But that was a very fun game that I'll remember forever. And it's just I also just wandering around the studio like a like a ghost that you don't know lives in your house.

40:22I think I think I want to go to a playoff game. That soldier field was rocking. It was insane how loud it was. It was awesome. All right. We're just we'll find the remote. It's OK. We're good. We'll figure it out later. It's just standing in here. All right. Let's go to the next game. Anything else? I think we covered more than enough. Yeah, how much credit do you give to the Pope? A lot. Yeah, you've got to give a lot of credit to the Pope. So much Pope credit. The Pope might have turned everything around for the city. It's like Pope won, Ben Johnson 2, Caleb Williams 3, Mikey Betts' friend who was 0-7 in Bears game, and Mikey Betts made him leave the game last night right when the turnaround happened 4.

41:07Da, Pope. I've been riding off Popeye too. Villanova basketball is back because of the Pope. Yeah, well, that was – we want to do a quick recap. You were at the game. Badgers stink. Badgers stink, but I just – But Villanova also might stink. We had some sad text messages. Shout out to Pope. Pope. Max and I had some – Chicago resident and Villanova alum. That's just for everyone. Nova football. Nova basketball. Nova football had a good year. Final four. Good year. Bad game Saturday, but good year. You would think that Notre Dame would have made the playoffs with the Pope luck. Yeah, right? Didn't go to Notre Dame.

41:39Didn't go to Notre Dame. Didn't go to Villanova. He's kind of in charge of the universe. He's a Nova guy. Yeah, good for him. Okay, let's go to Sunday. By the way, credit to the NFL. He did it again. That was a crazy Saturday night. Great Saturday. Great Saturday. Panthers, 23. Bucs, 20. Zach, I'm starting to think the Bucs might not be good. We're in a bit of a spot. We're not playing the football we were playing at the top of the year. Not even a little bit. Yeah. I said some things about the Panthers earlier this season. The Patriots just dropped a touchdown. That was Hank's reaction. Hank, you can put it in any time to talk about the game.

42:15It's a good throw. It's a good throw. Go for it. Got to go. Got to go. Busy, busy. Got to go for it. Busy, busy. Got to go. Yeah, Zach, with the Bucs, I think a pretty big part of the problem is the fact that you're having to resort to desperate moves like signing JPP to help your pass rush. You know who the leading sacker over the last 32, so the last two regular seasons, you know who the Bucs' leading sacker is? Who? Over two years? It's Vita Vey, who's an awesome player. But he's not a sacker. And he's got 11.5 sacks, so that's just over, what, five, six per season? Yeah. They're in a desperate spot.

42:56They can't get after the passer at all, and they don't have any of the luck that they had at the start of the year. Yeah, the Bucs were 6-2. Since then, they've dropped 6-7. They're now sitting at 7-8. And here's the craziest part, though. They still control their own destiny, which is nuts. If they win out, they will be in the playoffs. But credit to the Panthers. Bryce Young, what a – I mean, he was a baller in this game. He had – the three big moments that I noted while watching this game. One was at the end of the first half, which was also a Todd Bowles problem because there was 10 seconds left and he blitzed with seven and had everyone else in man coverage.

43:34And guess what? Tet is a pretty damn good wide receiver, but Bryce Young put it in a perfect spot. The second was his touchdown to Jatavian Sanders, the third and five where he eluded multiple sacks and hit him in the back of the end zone. And then that third and four with like three minutes left down the sideline to Jalen Coker, who's been very good, a good second receiver for them. Bryce Young made the big plays. That's what he did. He's a money, money quarterback. He had another – that was his sixth game-winning drive of the season. 12 total in his career. 12 total game-winning drives. Yeah.

44:10Which doesn't count, obviously, being the Caleb stat was when trailing. When trailing. But game-winning drives are game-winning drives. Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, Bryce Young, I'm very, very happy for him. Me too. The fact that he was so dead. He was deader than dead. It's another one where it's coaching matters. Yeah. I mean, if you look at Bryce Young, if you look at Caleb Williams, if you look at Trevor Lawrence, if you look at Drake May, like, coaching matters in this league. And Canales used to be the guy for the Bucs. Yep. Now he's the guy for Bryce. Yep. The Bucs, how much do you think is their luck running out, and how much do you think is just Todd Bowles not being a very good coach?

44:45I would say it's a lot of Todd Bowles not being a very good coach. I said the stat the other day, but he is now in four years with the Bucs. he has won three nfc south and he is 27 and 25 as a coach yeah i don't know what what goes on inside his head during games yeah i know he's got a guy that that handles all the thinking for him he hired a thinking coach yeah he doesn't have i i think he just i would imagine he has like one of those chips the uh what is it sam altman the ai chips he's got that guy thinking for him he's got neural link yeah he's got neural controlled by yeah but who what what is connected to the neural link i think it's the other guy's brain so it's a different guy's is the guy whose job it is to do all the decision making for the bucks that just puts his i just picture his head as being a big bull of stew yeah sloshing around in their all game what do you think is going through todd bull's head right now knowing that this is the bucks performance after he did his swear game because you know that was a big chip that he had.

45:47He had that in his back pocket. He's like, if I need to do this, if I need to break glass in case of emergency and swear after a game, I will, and then the boys will be ready to go. He burned that. Is there a throw a chair? Is there a punch a player? There's one other thing you can do. Fire himself? Mike Singletary. Oh, when you said fire yourself, I thought in a press conference, like Bud Dwyer. Yeah. No, not like that. Mike Singletary one time just took his pants off in the locker room. Or Rick Majerus. Or Rick Majerus took his pants off. Wiped his ass. Wiped his ass with that famous towel. Mike Singletary took his pants off and was like, you guys are playing like this, and then pointed at his butthole.

46:29That's, I think, the next move that Todd holds is what we call him. You have to do that. Or maybe there's probably worse cuss words that you can say. Yeah. He's got it. What do you do, Zach? I think, like you said, that was his emergency move, given all that he has. I don't think there's anything he can do from here except maybe resign. Resign. He's got to resign. Resign, sir. Yeah, respectfully, maybe get out of town, go retire, find a beach somewhere. Because you can't just keep delegating the thinking to other people. We need a guy who's down to think. Not down to delegate thinking. You've got to find a thinker.

47:06That'd be awesome if you had a thinker. An independent thinker. And I will say, it's just a tough watch. That second touchdown for the Panthers where he should have been sacked like three times and you just let him get away, you'll never win games with plays like that going down. Yeah, and then also the Baker, Mike Evans, it felt like miscommunication on that last interception. Yeah. And it felt like the Bucs were like, all right, here they go. Because they came out playing well. The swears worked. They just wore off. Maybe he needs to swear more. He probably didn't cuss at halftime. Yeah. Got to be consistent.

47:39That misdirection at the end was a hard watch. It was hard. because we were driving we were putting together it's like okay this is it we're getting back to like that early early season two minute drill and then just ball goes one way mike evan goes the other pick but yeah i mean you do both teams the panthers and the bucks control their own destiny yeah so it's like it's a battle of destinies i the bucks are the worst the bucks are breaking the record for bad teams still alive as late as possible yeah it's crazy because i i looking at it and being like so this game matters obviously because i think if you won you would have clinched we we needed to we need to split the panthers games and but now we have to win out right but you're playing the dolphins the panthers can lose next week in in the bucks or sorry can win next week and the bucks can still be alive yep yes yeah they're not dead week 18 is a big big week you know what the you know what that means too that's going to be flexed we're going to have That's going to be the Sunday night game.

48:39Yeah. 100%. Unless the Bucs, which I don't think you could say the Bucs are better than anyone right now. They're playing the Dolphins and Quinn Ewers, but I don't know. The Bucs have shown that they just are lost right now. Yeah, in the Inter-Florida Bowl, the Meth Bowl. Actually, that's like Coke versus Meth in that one. I don't think that you can definitively say, like, yeah, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are a much better football team. regardless if it's to a quarterback if it's quinn if it's zach wilson i don't know the bucks can lose to anybody they can lose to anyone they could also theoretically if the if the early season yeah i was gonna say i don't i don't know like where you're going here because i don't agree anymore bucks weeks one through seven could beat anybody in the nfl bucks weeks eight through 17 can lose to anybody yeah nfl uh wait who's whose lines anyway let me do the draft kings read whose lines anyway bucks at Dolphins uh DraftKings holiday football has arrived the regular season is wrapping up the playoffs are on deck and every win matters more with DraftKings Sportsbook an official sports betting partner the NFL the unexpected can turn game day into payday from fierce rivalries to playoff pushes nothing beats football this time of year first touchdown anytime TD live bets when your team scores you score and don't forget DraftKings has your back with early exit if your player goes down in the first half you still get paid in cash with DraftKings you're protected through the entire first half.

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50:34Age and eligibility varies by jurisdiction. Void in Ontario. Restrictions apply. Bet must win to receive bonus bets which expire in seven days. Minimum odds required. For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.co slash audio. Limited time offer. All right, whose line is it anyway? Bucks at Dolphins. Or Bucks at Dolphins. Yeah, I'm going to guess Bucks are favored by three. I would say four. Five and a half. Wow. I think I like the Dolphins. They got killed by the Bengals. I know. This game was probably lost on the last play of the first half, though. Yeah. Yeah, it's Todd Bowles' case in point.

51:14Yeah, the Tet throw. It was, yeah, 12 seconds left, and Todd Bowles, he blitzes seven guys from, like, the 23-yard line, and they get a touchdown over the top into single coverage. Yep. Terrible. What are you doing there, Todd Bowles? What are you doing? What are you doing, Todd Bowles? Also, the Panthers didn't have a timeout. Yeah. Shout out Meow Mix. Shout out Panthers fans. Dave Canales said Bank of America Stadium was an advantage today. The bank. Don't go to the bank. I got both of you right here, buddy. I'm happy, though, for Bryce Young. It's pretty like he's just making. And that touchdown to Jatavian Sanders, that was Alabama Bryce Young.

51:55So Alabama Bryce Young moving around in the pocket, like being elusive, not necessarily like lighting you up with his feet, but being elusive in the pocket and finding guys, it felt like he's got his swagger back a little bit. A little bit, yeah. Okay, next game. So we have some games that we can do pretty quickly, but this one, Chargers 34, Cowboys 17. The Chargers are one of those teams that just need a lot of credit because they're just good. They have now in these, I know they were a pick them today, but the last three weeks since Justin Herbert broke his hand, underdogs to the Eagles beat them, underdogs to the Chiefs beat them, pick them against the Cowboys beat them.

52:36They're just winning games. And this felt like Jim Harbaugh said before the game that this was going to be the toughest offense they played. It was true for the first quarter and a half because Dak looked electric. George Pickens that long touchdown throw and then the Chargers figured it out and they shut him out in the second half yeah Darbaugh is just a really good coach he is now up to 33 wins in his tenure for reference it took Brandon Staley 42 games to get to 22 wins with the Chargers they've now won 11 games in back to back seasons and they are a team that I would not want to play they can also win the AFC West they're still very much alive So if they win out.

53:19They've got a really tough schedule at the end. Yeah, they play the Texans next week. And then they play the Broncos week 18. If they win the last two games, they win the AFC West. Yeah. So it's right there for them. Justin Herbert, I think he got faster when his hand got broke. You see that play that he took off on where he was holding his arm at the end of it, bleeding out of his elbow? He lit him up. He was the fastest dude on the field. He lit him up. We said it on Friday. He was going to light him up. And he lit him up. 300 yards passing, two touchdowns. Pretty much perfect quarterbacking.

53:47Lad was back in the mix And then like I said the Chargers defense Figured it out in the second half and shut out the Cowboys And the Chargers they're a ball club We said it they're a ball club They're the best ball club there is Watching this who was it that had a hard time understanding ball club Was it Max or was it Hank I can't remember Hank do you get it now do you see Do you see the ball club missing them Sure They're a ball club What's going on Hank in the game We're losing Defense is getting gashed. Drake may throw a red zone interception. Okay. But do you understand the ball club? Yeah, totally.

54:24Can you explain it? They're a ball club. Yeah, you get it. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Not that hard. As is every other team. No. Now you lost it. You just lost it. Max. You lost it. Max, you know what a ball club is, right? The Cardinals are not a ball club. They are. No, they aren't. They are not a ball club. Max, you get the ball club. Yep. 100%. 100%. Max, I'm going to name a couple teams. You tell me if they're a ball club. Got it. Seattle Seahawks. Ball club. Baltimore Ravens. Ball club. Right now they look like a ball club. Right at this very second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They do. Bears. Ball club.

55:02Patriots. Right now? Yeah, same criteria. Nah, ball club. Ball club. Cardinals. No, not a ball club. Dolphins. Nope, not a ball club. Yep. Birds. Ball club. Bucks. Not a ball club. Yep, you've got it. He's got it down. He's got it down. So just teams that are good or ball club? No, no. You can have a team that's good and they - No, you know who's a ball club? Saints. Saints are a ball club. That's a ball club. That's a ball club. You know who else is a ball club right now? Vikings. Teams that you guys bet on and suck off on the show. No, no, no, no. Teams with quarterbacks you like to suck off on ball club.

55:41No, you're getting mad right now. You're getting mad. You're triggered. It's okay. I'm sorry about that interception. You suck Chuck and you suck nine. You're upset that Tyler Suck got through a ball. He doesn't have his earphones on, so he can't hear you. I think the lights are like an electric. Max is obsessed with his one stat. You realize, too, you had it right there. You said you suck shuck. You've just been like, you shuck him off. Yeah. You shuck his dick. Give him that wet shuck. Yeah. Shuck shuck 9 ,000. I'll shuck that thing dry. Can we do, because congratulations, Max and PFT. The Cowboys have been eliminated.

56:12Yeah. Which I know is a fun day for anyone else in the NFC East. I think for most fans. Oh, yes, definitely. But specifically, no. No, Cowboys not a ball. Come on, dude. It kind of can be. What are you doing? Hank, when the Dolphins were good that year, when they hung 70 on the Broncos, not a ball club. JMU. Ball club. Yep. Sure. Ball club. Ball club. Okay, so. Ball, ball. Ball, ball. Ball, ball. You can't say ball, but not say anything when you throw an interception. You have to do both. No. That's crazy. You don't say ball on an interception. That's just ball in the watching. No, you're reacting.

56:46I would say ball when there's a fumble. If the Patriots fumbled, then I would say ball. I'm saying you have to react to both. No. Okay. You just react when there's a fumble. That's just the only thing. Pink Hat, you got to know this about Hank. Whenever you try to lecture him, it just turns into that meme of the two housewives yelling at the cat, and the cat would be like, no. He specifically went silent when a bad play happened. I'm not. He crossed his arms. No, just say. You want me to do play-by-play? No. Sure. Whisper it, though. If the Patriots fumbled, I would say ball. that's just that's just watching that's when there's a fumble on your ball watch ball your ball watch yeah okay cowboy stats ready for this so the cowboys officially eliminated which means they've now gone 30 years without making a conference championship game every other nfc team has made a conference the nfc championship since 2010 the cowboys are the only so if you look at when the last time every team has made the conference championship game every single team the nfc has made it since 2010 and the cowboys have not made it since 1995 thank god for last season i was born in 1995 that would have been very embarrassing for me yeah that was that was the worst insult graphic and now it belongs to the cowboys yeah so so happy about that jerry jones said afterwards i'll admit the cowboys management has played a big role in the 30-year super bowl drought but seriously i'm very disappointed that the way we're structured and my role puts us here tonight, I'm tremendously disappointed.

58:13So that's big. He's tremendously disappointed. Yeah, that doesn't mean he's going to do anything about it. No, but he is tremendously disappointed. Jerry Jones is going to continue to be GM as his right. He owns the team. I think the second he stops being GM, that might be a bad sign for just Jerry Jones in general. And the reshuffling of the deck chairs on the Titanic did not work today. They sent Matt Eberflus up to the booth so he could get a better view of his defense sucking ass. okay it didn't really help i don't think it it helped at all uh i i want to know what matt eberflus was thinking up in the booth after having spent you know every second of the last however many years on the sideline yeah um probably a tough pill for him to swell maybe it might have been the like let's just try to embarrass matt eberflus to the point where he quits yeah that feels like that's a very distinct possibility in this entire matt eberflus situation god i'm happy that guy's out of my life yeah that's a that's a that's a definitive one the breakup yep like i i i like i have no problem going on instagram and checking in on how matt iberfus is doing not gonna be worried about that do you do that i i don't think he has instagram but i will i'll start to do that i think maybe after the haircut he might have gotten instagram here's another cowboy stat for you guys uh for the second time in franchise history the cowboys have had 2 ,000-yard receivers, George Pickens went off today, a 1 ,000-yard rusher, and a 4 ,000-yard passer.

59:36So that's the second time in Cowboys history they've done it. The other time was 2019, and the Cowboys also missed the playoffs. Interesting. So maybe something's wrong. Well, their defense, yeah. So Dak Prescott, this year is not Dak's fault, but it will get lumped in with all the years of the Cowboys not winning anything under Dak Prescott, which I'm okay with kind of letting that one slide. But yeah, this was not Dak's fault. He's been great this year. I would say that the Cowboys receivers, they have the best wide receivers in football. Flournoy actually looks really good too. George Pickens had a little moment there in the last couple weeks where he was a little absent.

1:00:14Today he was electric. Yeah. And they're going to have to figure out what to do with him. Probably got to pay him. I think they'll end up paying him. But they're going to want to pay him and then we'll see what Georgie's all about. Yeah. Yeah. The Cowboys are out. Remember when they were 6-5-1 after Thanksgiving, they beat the Chiefs? We had a whole nice week of scariest team. Yeah. Credit to the Chargers' defense, too. Yeah. Really good. Zero points in the second half. Really, really good. Okay. Next game. Let's go to Bill's Browns. So the Bills survived. I say that because they played with their food in this game.

1:00:54They looked like they were going to kill the Browns. Shador actually played well in the first half He had some nice runs Yeah, the Bills probably could have If you watch this game Was it Kincaid or Knox who dropped that fourth down The fourth and one to go up ten With about three minutes left I mean, that's like asking me to tell the difference Between vanilla and plain yogurt By looking at it The Bills had a lot of Josh wasn't prime Josh They had some drops They had some bad third downs But they survived and a win is a win yeah shador is he's fun to watch i think yeah he's i mean he makes the browns interesting he is their best option that they have at quarterback and he's really that's not really saying that much uh that's like saying jmu was the best group of five that we saw over the course of the weekend it's not shador is way better than dylan gabriel yes and way less of a bummer than deshaun watson He loves to hold on to the ball, though.

1:01:52He does. He takes it. He drifts. He plays quarterback like I do when I'm playing video games. Yeah, he takes a shitload of sacks. He takes a lot of them on fourth down. Although I did hear, because I was talking with Tate about the sack that he took last week on fourth down to end the game, which was his second sack in a row that he's taken to end the game, or second time he's gotten tackled without throwing the ball to end the game. and apparently the Shador defenders logged on and they were saying that, like, what do you want him to do? Throw an incomplete pass and have his completion percentage dip even further?

1:02:24Then he can make fun of that? So checkmate, Shador defenders. Surely there's a third option that you could do, like, I don't know, completing a pass would be good too. Yes, throwing the ball. I'd say that attempting a pass is better than taking a sack in that situation. But I think the two of us kind of read how this game was going to go. I thought that the Browns would keep it close because the Bills don't really blow anybody out. We said it on Friday. The Bills now go to 1-5 against the spread against teams under.500. Yeah, they don't blow out bad teams at all. The most important stat coming out of this game is Sean McDermott.

1:03:00With his glasses on, the Buffalo Bills are 3-3. Without the glasses, the Buffalo Bills are 8-1. Crazy. Football's a contact sport. Yeah. Take the glasses off. Put the lenses in. You turn into a better coach. And listen, the Bills, so this is their sixth straight season with 11 wins. That's the longest streak in the NFL right now. It's also only the fifth team to ever do it. So they're consistently there. And I don't know. It does feel very Bills-like that we're in a situation where I think the Bills can go to the Super Bowl, but it's basically going to be can Josh be Superman? Yeah, can Josh Allen become – he has to do it all.

1:03:45And you know he can, but he's going to have to do it probably every single game. He has to do it all. But the thing is he is capable of doing that. Yes. And right now – so the Bills in December and January, regular season games, since 2020, the Bills are 26-4. 26-4. They don't lose at the end of the season. Yeah. And James Cook is really good, although he started really hot and then they kind of – Browns bottled him up a little. Miles Garrett didn't – He got a half sack. He got a half sack. He got a half sack. So he's at 22. And he's... Josh... I actually understand where Myles Garrett's coming because there was that moment where I think it was...

1:04:19I can't remember who got a sack, but Myles Garrett didn't look too pumped that it wasn't his sack. Yeah, it's gotten to the point where I think other players on the Browns are afraid to celebrate sacks now. Because every sack they have is one that theoretically Myles could have gotten. That would have given him the record. Yep. And yeah, he got half a sack on that one that was almost a safety. Josh Allen might have gotten hurt. He might have sprained a foot or something tonight. That was weird. He's always getting banged up. Josh is always banged up, but he's always playing through it. Yeah. Harold Fannin's good.

1:04:47Very good. And Quinshawn Judkins, big time bummer for him. Browns just need to start a new season. Yeah. Just take a little break. They have a bunch of players that I think are good. It's can they collectively be good? Maybe. Listen, a few weeks ago, I was very, very high on the Browns in terms of like a future team. Yeah. In terms of a team that I think has some good pieces in place that if you build around them, they could be very good one day. I don't know about it so much right now. The Quinshawn-Judkins injuries, it sucks. It's a bummer. Because dislocated the ankle, broke the fibula. That doesn't sound like it's going to be an easy one for a running back to come back from.

1:05:29But on the defensive side, they've got good young players. And they've got, yeah, a good tight end and Shador. Yeah. Also, it was great seeing Deion there with a whistle on. Yeah, like he was ready to go at any time. Like put me in coach to coach. Yeah. Okay. Next up Bengals 45 Dolphins 21 Joe Burrow bounce back. He was awesome. Also, the big story out of this is we are in the fantasy playoffs. And if you are someone who has been affected by Chase Brown, my apologies to you because Chase Brown had three touchdowns all season. He had three touchdowns today. And I think they all came in the second half.

1:06:06So it was like, oh, we were surviving. this is why fantasy is the worst because you just have one of these games where it's like oh i'm going up against chase brown you know when you when you log on for the playoffs and you have like a 70 chance to win and it doesn't have in that in that calculation chase brown having three touchdowns that sucks i'm pulling up our fantasy league right now because i have not checked it since the early games. Jerry O 'Connell has us in the semifinals. We're up 82 to 61. Okay. We still have Juwan Jennings. He's got Tyler Warren. And he's got Jonathan Taylor. So we're screwed?

1:06:48We might be. We still have 59 % chance to win. Okay. So we're screwed. Jerry, this is everything. This is for your driveway, Jerry. Sounds like we might be screwed. We might be a little bit screwed on this. We might be a little screwed. But yeah, listen, Quinde Aragua, the story was the Iceman this weekend, not Quinde Aragua. He started 10 for 12 in the first half, and then it kind of fell. He looked pretty good in the first half. I'm not going to lie. He was making a few throws, and then, yeah, everything kind of went to shit on there. Yeah, at this point, let's see what Zach Wilson has. Yeah.

1:07:22We also had the fun story get leaked, which I think we already knew, but the Dolphins offered four first-round picks for Joe Burrow back in 2020, was it? Yeah. That was a really interesting time to leak that. It's almost like the Dolphins might be sniffing around again. Yeah. I mean, that's a lot of picks, but yeah, Joe Burrow's really good. That was a perfect bounce-back game where everyone was like, oh, Joe Burrow might be bummed out. He doesn't want to play football. And then he basically played perfect football. Yeah, it was great. Put perfect football, and this game was never really in doubt.

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1:10:21This is a paid advertisement. Okay, next up, Saints 29, Jets 6. Tyler Shuck. Tyler Shuck did it. Tyler Shuck. We ladder him with 300. The dude just throws a beautiful ball. It's beautiful. He throws tight little spirals. He's managing the game well. He's taking shots. Tyler Shuck is a good quarterback. He's 4-3 as a starter. 4-3? 4-3 as a starter. If you handicap that with the Saints overall, that's pretty shucking good. He's a great player. I think the Saints should be optimistic about the future. Tyler Shuck, you did it, buddy. The 413th player in NFL history to break the 300 barrier. and I believe he is the 26th of 2025 to do it.

1:11:10The Saints, if they had started Tyler Shuck from week one, are they in the playoffs? I think they're in that division. They're playing the best football in that division right now. The Panthers are more deserving. The Panthers have won more games. But the Saints are playing good football. They are. And Tyler Shuck. And they even got Taysom Hill back doing his thing. By the way, remember Chris Olave? just quietly having his best season. He's got 92 catches, 1 ,000 yards, eight touchdowns. He went 10 for 148 and two touchdowns today. It's good to see him doing it because it felt like in the last couple of years where Chris Olave retiring early was definitely on the table.

1:11:50Yeah. I mean, every time he would make a catch, you would kind of like hold your breath, but it helps when you have a quarterback that cannot throw you into traffic all the time. Like Tyler Shuff. Knows where to put the football. seems like a great individual on and off the field i'm just guessing because he's that good on the field i assume he's not a total shithead off the field but yeah tyler shuck great job today um it was just fun it's just fun to i'm very glad that we have some bad teams that are fun to watch yeah and i don't clubs ball clubs i don't even think that the saints are that bad anymore but you would call them like they're five and ten not in competition they're still i want to watch the Saints play football.

1:12:26Tyler Shuck 308. Taysom Hill gets back in it through a touchdown pass at the very end of the game too. Jets not so great today, Memes? Defense was competitive in the first three quarters. Yeah, they made Shuck work for it. There was a lot of field goals, not a lot of touchdowns early on. Yeah, I guess you limited Shuck to only 308 yards. He probably could have thrown for 500 yards against an average defense you did stop him in the red zone multiple times yeah no a bunch yeah the entire secondary zone ir yeah that's it guys played with effort that's what aaron glenn said one of the guys play with effort and they did brady cook is not he tried no he's a he's a great tank quarterback yeah can we also just acknowledge the fact that the uh the tyler shuck experience is happening without alvin camara yeah he's like all they got now yeah it's just shuck the offense wrote it goes through shock so memes you are right now sitting with the fourth pick overall in at the fourth pick and the Raiders and Giants play next week the Raiders could the winner I'm looking at right now I think the Raiders would have you'd have the tiebreaker over the Raiders but not the Giants because it's like strength of schedule I don't know correct yeah Hank what are these faces but strength strength of schedule also changes week to week talking yeah you can make a lot of they're You're just showing stats about Drake Mayhem.

1:13:54I already like Drake. You don't have to convince me to like Drake Mayhem. Second best yards. You're trying to get Pia to notice. Yeah. I just pointed to see if you saw. I've seen all those stats, which is why I think he's a great quarterback. Okay. Memes, this doesn't hurt you anymore, right? No, the Taysom Hill touchdown hurt me. We were so close to having a perfect game. Of what? Just a tank. And that was just kind of an embarrassing moment. What do you mean? Of making them earn it. No, they scored with 130 left. They had no timeouts. They were just like, this team sucks so bad, we're going to let Taysom Hill throw a touchdown.

1:14:33I see. That was salt in the wound. That was not nice. You were aiming for just a regular loss. Good old-fashioned loss. Just get in, get out, lose, show some effort. That type of loss. That type of loss, yeah. And instead they were like, hey, we got Taysom Hill. Yeah, Kellen Moore was fired up on the sideline. Yeah. All right, dude. The entire defense is on IR. I kind of see what you're saying. Let's just move on. Yeah. That actually does make sense. That would be – there was no need for that. If that said they want to get down. Yeah. There was players tweeting after, like, we're going to Cancun in two weeks.

1:15:10Like, this game doesn't mean anything. Wait, players tweeted that? Yeah. Who? Kalen Sanders? Ooh. He said we're going to Cancun? Yeah. There was a screenshot. he was looking down they were like this is what playing for the jets will do to you he was just like no there's just playing in like the toilet bowl do to you like we're we're all going to cancun in two weeks doesn't matter that's one of my favorite things that fans do is insults sometimes it's like have fun in cancun buddy they will it's like yeah i'm gonna have a great time in cancun professional athletes i get paid 10 million dollars a year and i'm in fantastic shape and i don't have work for six months probably fuck like a porn star i'm gonna have the best time I'm in Cancun.

1:15:49I can get drunk and not be hungover because I'm 22 years old and I'm in elite shape. Yeah. I'm going to have... Guess where you're going to go? To work tomorrow. Do you know how I look with my shirt off? I'm a professional athlete. This is going to be awesome for me. The only reason you could be insulting me for going to Cancun is because you've never been able to afford to go there. I'm going to stay in the nicest place. I'm going to wear awesome clothes, get drunk, hook up with hot chicks. Yeah. I'm going to enjoy Cancun. Have fun getting drunk at the beach, buddy. That will happen. See you, loser.

1:16:24I love it. That sounds sick. Yeah. It sounds amazing. We should be professional athletes. Especially if you're on a team. It would be one thing if it's Cancun, if you're playing in week 18 and you lose the game and keeps you out of the playoffs. If you've been planning your Cancun vacation for this long, it's probably going to be an awesome vacation. Oh, you've had enough time to get the best setup. You're going at the best time. Like, you've got it all ready to go. You've made all the reservations at the restaurant, at the resort that you have to book like way ahead of time. The people that say during the playoffs, I kind of understand that point, because if you unexpectedly go to Cancun, you probably have to settle for like the second or third best restaurant.

1:17:05You got to scramble a little to get down there. Like make a phone call to somebody that you know at the resort. Hey, can I get into the sushi place night one? Okay. All right. Thanks. That's kind of a pain in the ass. I understand that. Yeah. Cancun rocks. Yeah. Cabo. Cancun on three. Yeah. All right. One, two, three. Good for the Saints, though. They're definitely playing good football. Okay, Vikings 16, Giants 13. We had nine. Nine broke his hand. Hurt his hand. Hurt his hand. Then we had Max Brosmer. But all that remains is the Giants are elite at losing football games. Credit to Max Brosmer.

1:17:43I think we expected the worst when he got in. And we didn't get the worst. Even after on Friday when we disagreed, I said the Giants will lose because they always know how to lose. When I saw Max Brosmer, I live bet the Giants. That was stupid. Yeah. But, yeah, they are elite at losing games. They're 2-13. They've lost seven games by one score or less. And so they're just really good at losing, finding a way to lose. And Brian Flores had Jackson Dart in hell. Well, Jackson Dart didn't attempt to pass until three minutes left in the first half. He had 13 net passing yards. They didn't ask him to throw the ball at all.

1:18:21And after the game, he was like, yeah, I just kind of work here. I just kind of do what they tell me. He went with that excuse on it, which is like, it's legit. But I want to know why the Giants didn't have him even attempt to pass in most of the first half. I think Brian Flores, because remember, this is also Brian Flores' revenge. Yeah. Because of the whole Giants hiring him. Yeah. Oh, you're Bill Belichick. Oh, you're black Brian, not white Brian. My phone got mixed up. So he hates the Giants. But yeah, he put them in hell. He put them in hell. And the Vikings are one of those teams. They're in that Saints category where they're just playing good ball right now.

1:18:57Ball club. They're a ball club. They're playing spoiler. And they're playing good ball. That was not Nines' fault on the interception either. Yeah. That was a crazy bobble. Do you think Brian Dable is a little vindicated because the Giants have not won a game since he's been fired? Yeah. And also Jackson Dart is playing worse. Yeah. Bring Brian Dable back as offensive coordinator? I guess you could say he's vindicated. A little bit? A little bit, yeah. You don't want to get fired and then watch the team that you were coaching just go rip off a bunch of wins. Yeah, I think he's had a great time watching them lose, but I think it was never going to work with Brian Dable.

1:19:35No, of course not. I'm not saying to bring him back or anything, but it's got to feel at least a little satisfying to see a bad situation somehow get worse when you're taken out of it. I think in the context of teams calling Brian Dable to offer them coordinator jobs, I think this does help. Yeah. I think it's like, okay, all right, well then, yeah, the team kind of felt, if they had done really, really good, Like if Jackson Dart went off every single game after Brian Dayball left, then there'd be some teams that would be like, I don't know about this guy. Yeah. But yeah, I agree. I think I agree.

1:20:10I don't think that it's like, oh, yeah, Brian Dayball is a great coach. I think it's just like everything in New York right now has combined to be one big puddle of shit. It's really crazy how bad the Giants, for being a franchise that has an incredible history, they've just been bad for an extended stretch now. This should be enough to get Joe Shan out of there? You'd think, but I don't know. I saw someone, there was some article, maybe I was just watching TV, that Mr. Mara said that he's trying to learn from his father, his late father, to be more patient. Yeah. Which this feels like the patience is not a good thing.

1:20:53It's not a virtue in this situation when it's keeping guys around. I don't think with Joe Shane, patience should be exercised. Yeah, I feel bad. Giants fans need just everything to change. Everything. Everything to change, get a good coach. I think Jackson Dart is good, but also I'm scared that he gets concussed all the time. I don't know. I think they might just, it might be the dumb blonde thing. I think they might just see Jackson Dart and be like, oh, is he concussed? Let's check him out. Oh, no, he's not? All right, let's send him back in. I think that's prejudice from the medical examiner, the guy with the red hat on the sideline.

1:21:25Yeah. Now, for Max Brosmer, I think he's probably going to play next week. I don't know. It's too early to say, but I think I read that JJ didn't have a broken hand. Can we look that up? He didn't? I don't know. He was acting like it was broken the way they were squeezing it. Yeah. Yeah, the Vikings are definitely in that category of building something for next year right now because they're banged up, but they're playing good football. It's funny to look at the standings. They are actually there. So they've been eliminated for a couple weeks now. They are ahead of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and the Bucs are not eliminated because they're still fighting for the NFC South.

1:21:59That's great. So if you're asking yourself, would the Vikings potentially win the NFC South? The answer is yes, they would. Easily. Yeah. X-rays negative. X-rays negative. Okay. Okay, that's good. because it did look bad. He was playing. He had an interception, but it was off of a receiver's hands. Yeah, it bounced right into the corner. And then Brosmer, yeah, Brosmer didn't play well. They said after the game, the Vikings like his mental makeup. Okay. So two guys on the Vikings with cool makeup. This is another one of those games we've probably talked about too long. Yeah. But, yeah, okay. I think I just like saying Max Brosmer.

1:22:34I do too. Max Brosmer. Yeah. last early game titans 26 chiefs nine if you didn't know chris oladukin now you do brother three for eight for 15 yards right in your fucking face bummer for gardener minchew i mean this was we we said this was going to happen the chiefs were the most quit team and ever a team if there ever was a team that could be like hey you know what i want to quit it was this kansas city chiefs team without patrick mahomes yeah so so minchew goes in there tears his acl stays in the game it sucks and tries to keep playing then he has to be taken out and then the ola dukin experience um not great wasn't a fun watch the titans beat him with experience of playing meaningless games and cam ward looked pretty good today yeah this is great for for all the cam ward fans out there he he had his best game yeah yeah and he's getting better and um yeah the titans look like a competent team i don't know that it's crazy to see it but the Chiefs are the 12th pick right now.

1:23:36They could definitely end up being a top 10 pick, which is nuts that they that things in a year where things fell apart. They might have fallen apart perfectly where it's not like they missed the playoffs by one game. They're going to miss playoffs by multiple games and end up with a top 10 pick. Let's see what awesome player they got on tank. It's on in the mock draft. It's going to be someone they need at 12. The Kansas City Chiefs select. Oh, David Bailey edge Texas Tech. Okay, that would be a good player. That would be a good player. They need some pass rush. I don't really know what... Yeah, I don't know where the Chiefs are going to go.

1:24:13I think we're going to talk a lot about the Chiefs in the offseason of what are they going to do. It's weird that Travis Kelsey's last catch in the NFL could potentially be from Chris Oladoukin. I heard he was thinking about coming back. Oh, he is. Did I hear right? He's thinking about it. Is he doing it for... Let's keep it off the podcast, Travis. Let's play a fair game here, okay? Yeah. Let's play straight up here. You can't do an announcement on the podcast. Ratings for ratings. Let's not do this on the podcast. You know what? I'm also considering coming back to the NFL. Yeah. I will make my announcement sometime in March.

1:24:44Let's do this traditional way. Let's do it through the newspapers. Okay? I want you to bring Ed Werder to your house, Travis. We don't need to do the podcast thing and have everyone be watching every second of... We like you guys, but it's a little unfair. I want you to sit down with Ed and have him bring out his notepad, and then you wait for three days afterwards so that Ed can file it, and then I want to read it when it comes out in the Dallas Morning News. Yeah, sure. Yeah, the DMN. Yeah, we'll get a subscription to the DMN if you just agree. Newspaper writers need a little bump to help them out.

1:25:24It's sad that Travis Kelsey is eliminating so many jobs of journalists. It's true. What else we got from this game? Anything? That's about it. Jeffrey Simmons is really, really good. Yeah, the refs kind of fucked him over. Yeah, they did. They called him for, what was it, illegal formation? Mm-hmm. Because he reported as eligible. He said afterwards, like, yeah, I got this big fucking arm brace on my hand. I wear a red sleeve. The ref should see me when I pat my chest. Yep. Justice for Jeff. Okay. Yeah, that was a game that happened. Shout out to the Titans. It's good that if you're a Titans fan, Cam Ward looked good.

1:25:56That is all that matters these last few games. He threw for 228, two touchdowns, didn't make any mistakes. The offense moved the ball. These are good things. Listen, the Titans. Conquo got his first. I think he leads the Titans in receptions. He finally got a touchdown this year. Shout out to him. Titans dropped to number five in the draft. Yeah. I mean, they have their quarterback, so it doesn't. Might as well just. If Cam Ward's going to play well, that's a good thing. Yep. That's a good thing. Okay. Let's take another break, and then we'll get to the afternoon games. before we get back to the games that are brought to you by Experian, your big financial friend over at Experian.

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1:29:01The Broncos tied it up 17-17 with like a four-play drive. And then the Jaguars' defense ramped up, played really well, got some fourth-down stops, forced an interception, and Trevor Lawrence is just dicing them up. They're just a really good football team. They're really good. And Trevor Lawrence, when I say he's one of the best quarterbacks right now, here are some of the stats from his last four games. Against the Titans, 229, two touchdowns, no interceptions. Against the Colts, 244, two touchdowns, no interceptions. Against the Jets, 330, five touchdowns, zero interceptions. Against the Denver Broncos, 279, three touchdowns, and a rushing touchdown.

1:29:42So I think he's also had, what is it, like seven rushing touchdowns in the last four games? Yeah. Trevor Lawrence is playing the best football he's ever played. They're calling him Steezy Trev in Jacksonville. Okay. I don't know how I feel about it. The pictures are very funny. It's like when Kirk Cousins would win a game and they'd dress him up like you'd put jewelry and chains on your dog and take a picture and be like, that's funny. Yep. They're kind of doing that with Trevor. But more so than all the weird, wacky, behind-the-scenes stuff, I like the new Jaguars mentality, which I think Trayvon Walker said it best.

1:30:14they asked him like do you want people to jump on your bandwagon he said no fuck everybody but us fuck fuck everybody but us then he apologized to his mom and grandma i don't know mom and grandma are included in the everybody but i think they are yeah friends and family is in the us but yeah the jaguars are they're they're still saying like nobody believes in us you're gonna have a hard time saying that nobody believes in you because now you've played so good that i think a lot of people are believing in yeah and this was the game you know they have been hot they haven't the last few weeks they have been playing I mean they beat the Jets last week I think that's part of you know when you dismantle the Jets not you don't get like top billing but looking at the Jaguars season in totality they have beaten five playoff teams uh Panthers well I'm assuming the Panthers make the playoffs they might not panthers texans niners chargers and broncos now they also beat the chiefs and the chiefs were fully healthy and outside of they if they don't have to play the nfc west they should be good they they lost they got blown out by the rams and they got kind of handled by the seahawks the score looks a little closer but like other than that i mean they they've just been playing really good football and it's just they've beaten really good teams trevor lawrence this is another coaching matters where Liam Cohen has completely changed the trajectory of a franchise by showing up and adding some shit to him some swagger to him and more than anything coaching Trevor Lawrence and getting him playing the best football at least since 2022 but probably ever as a pro I'd say ever as a pro yeah yeah I would get that stretch in 2022 where he was pretty nice in the cut it loose and let it rip era this is this is the best that Trevor Lawrence has ever played I think and the Jaguars they clinched the playoffs with a Colts loss on Monday night okay a lot rides on that every basically if you're if you're in the playoff picture right now in the AFC things get a whole lot better for you if the Colts lose tonight yeah we're we'll talk about the entire playoff picture when we finish after talking about uh Ravens Patriots which just ended but the the the Colts game does swing it enters a lot of teams into into the dance officially if they lose to the Niners but yeah the Jaguars are just really good and that Trevor Lawrence like they were down I think 10-7 to start the game and then they went six out of seven drives they scored on and Liam Cohen had a little a little something for Sean Payton after the game Sean Payton said earlier in the week that it's a smaller market but you see a really good team when talking about the Jaguars and Liam Cohen after the game said a small market team like us can come into mile high and get it done yeah and i like i like what trevor lawrence said when he signed with the jaguars yeah we might be a small mark but actually by by land area we're the biggest market they are in the nfl so they are dick i added in the suck my dick part i'm also i've been impressed with jacoby myers what a what a transformation his life has had in the last couple months he so he goes to jacksonville from from the raiders and then he's rewarded before the season's even over That's how much they love him.

1:33:20They gave him a$60 million extension before the end of the season. I think they were hoping to get it done in the offseason. They said, no, fuck that. Jacoby, you're sticking around. He was great today. Parker Washington was great today, too. Yeah, they were just really good. And as for the Broncos, that was not Bo Nix's. I mean, he had that one absolute dime in the first half. But that was not the best performance for the Broncos. I was shocked more than anything with how many guys, and this is a testament to Liam Cohn and Trevor Lawrence, just it felt like guys were open all day for the jaguars they got whatever they wanted offensively they uh were four for five in the red zone the broncos were holding teams to 38 percent before this game so just that was the weird part that was the part i was looking at just being like i thought this broncos defense had that elite level to it and the jaguars kind of diced them up there was a moment in the fourth quarter where i was like are the broncos going to do it again here comes bonix are they gonna do it again yeah and it was they they made the uh they made a field goal then they forced a quick three and out from the jaguars and then they got a pick uh right after that i think five plays into that that next drive by the broncos because they were down by 14 i think it's 34 20 and after that pick it was like okay this is they're just they're just going to run the clock out yeah this is how it's going to wrap up credit to the jaguars they're just a good football team the Jaguars are good prepare yourself your family your children your loved ones let them know the Jacksonville Jaguars are a very good football yeah they are and I don't know I mean the good news for the Broncos is they get Thursday night football against Oduken yep so that should be somewhat easy if they lose that game then I'll be like what the hell's going on and then they get a little bit of a rest until they have to play week 18 which we don't know if it will matter or not week 18 could be a struggle for everyone i think it's going to be like one game it's going to be the uh the panthers and the bucks that could mean something there could be a lot of teams open for the one seed but yeah it's gonna be the nfc south super bowl yeah yeah okay let's keep moving the falcons 26 the cardinals 19 i don't have a lot on this game other than two things bijan is really fucking good and they should keep making sure that they feature bijan he had or sorry, Bajon.

1:35:40He had 168 yards from scrimmage. He is the first Falcon to have 2 ,000 yards from scrimmage since Jamal Anderson in 1998. So it's been a long time. And then Kyle Pitts hit his TDs. Yep. Five. Officially. Fifth season, five TDs. He's got to stop. He cannot get another one. We talked about it this preseason, but Kyle Pitts, first year in the league, one TD, second year two, third year three, fourth year four. He is in his fifth year. He just got his fifth TD. Please do not score again. We want to make that graphic. Yeah. One, two, three, four, five. And it's just incredible growth. You have to sign him.

1:36:16He's going to be a free agent, right? You signed him to a five-year deal by the end of that contract. Oh, my God. You've got the best tight end in the NFL. Yeah, absolutely. Pretty much guarantees it. Listen, I don't have anything on this game besides the Cal Pitt stat. Yeah. That was it. I didn't watch too much of it. I didn't really feel the need to when you had some other games that were going on in the afternoon slot, getting ready for the show but it was uh i'll tell you it was good kirk cousins another win for kirk yeah i i watched this a lot of this game because i i did have some bets on it and it was very cardinals in that the cardinals will come out of every game like the start of the game and their offense looks great and then they'll just stop i did see that michael wilson touchdown catch that was crazy 32 yarder to start it off that was an insane catch that he made the cardinals are just a bummer they're just not they're injured they're bad their coach is gonna get fired this is one of those bummer teams you just gotta play out the string yep who do they even do they even play anyone that's important left i would be okay if the cardinals just had a 15 oh they play the rams week 18 bank rams they're cardinals or bangles well i'm gonna take that over cardinals and bangles next week and then they play the rams they'll just lay down and now it might be a double lay down game could could be a double lay down yeah yeah like i said we'll get to the playoff picture in week 18 in a minute texans what happened in that monday night game against the cowboys where did i don't know i don't know well it turns out the cowboys aren't that good yeah that was also part of it we should have known that the texans 23 raiders 21 p carol and geno smith we gave you the offer on friday to just walk off into the sunset and we'll pretend you never played for the Raiders.

1:37:56They were so close to ruining that deal. Because if they had beaten the Texans today, we would have had to remember that they were on the Raiders because it would have had like a domino effect on seeding and all that stuff. And the Texans are obviously a really good team. They were so close to doing it. Yeah, the Raiders have a history of doing that too. Yeah. I still remember the Ravens losing to the Raiders in what, like week two? Yeah. Was that last season? Yeah. Yeah. If you lose to the Raiders, that's going to stick with me for a long time. Yeah. And they did fight. Credit to them. Ashton Gentry looked really good today.

1:38:30Really good. First rookie to have a 60-yard touchdown catch and a 60-yard touchdown pass since Kareem Hunt in 2017. So that's a cool Ashton Gentry stat. Yeah. That might be good. He might be good. He had 188 yards from scrimmage. And I think that the Texans' defense played pretty good. Yeah, their offense is not – their offense is still – That's why I'm not stressing so, so much, but their offense doesn't look great at times. Yeah, they're limited. That's a good word. Yeah, C.J. Stroud comes out, and he has some games where he looks like 2023 C.J. Stroud and some games where he's 2024. This was a 2024 C.J.

1:39:09Stroud moment today. That offense did not look very good. But, yeah, the defense keeps them in any game. It doesn't matter who they're playing. So as long as he doesn't turn the ball. If C.J. limits it to one or fewer interceptions, the Texans should win most games. Yes, I'd agree with that. Okay, last game, and then we'll talk Sunday Night Football. It's good. We're doing a good job of powering through games we don't have to talk about too much. It's a take-care-of-business game. That was a take-care-of-business game. They almost didn't take care of business, but they did end up taking care of business because that would have been crazy if they ended up losing that game.

1:39:40Yep. Also, just a little preview, the Giants and Raiders do play next week. That's a consequential game. Very. Very, very. We might have to big-screen that one. Extremely consequential. Yeah, that one's going to be huge. Okay, so Steelers 29, Lions 24. This was a big game. So the Lions loss put the Bears and the Niners into the playoffs. The Steelers are humming. I don't know what else to say. Like Aaron Rodgers is playing good football. That Jalen Warren catch at the end of the half was insane. It feels like the Lions are the snake-bitten team of the year because we had the entire sequence at the end of the game where there was multiple OPI penalties.

1:40:22They scored twice. Both of them came back. And the Lions have had that kind of season where you see the flashes, but then they've had a few of these losses where the offense just gets stuck in mud for too long and their defense is too injured to keep them in the game. Yeah, I think it was Kenny Gainwell that had that catch at the end of the first half. Oh, sorry, it was Kenny Gainwell, not Jalen Warren. Jalen Warren had a million yards. Yeah, he had a great game. Jalen Warren has not looked that good this year, and this was an awesome game for him. At the end of the game, that was an insane stretch that they had, like you mentioned, with the OPIs.

1:40:58And then the refs got together, had the longest huddle I've ever seen on the field to talk about what happened. It was crazy. And they ended up calling offensive pass interference. But what happened was the ref, we got to teach referees a lesson in bedside manner. When you go out in front of the crowd and you're announcing the outcome of the final play of the game, you don't lead it off by saying it was a touchdown i know and then go back and you explain the fact that but however because we determined there was opi it's not a touchdown and oh yeah there's going to be a runoff on the clock that's the end of the game go home yeah that's the meanest way that he could have announced it for the Detroit fans i feel bad for anybody that was in the audience at the stadium they had to listen to that uh the Steelers were the better team though and they've been the better team.

1:41:43Steelers have been really good since we fired Mike Tomlin. Yeah. Since Mike Tomlin was fired by the fan base and booed and told that he sucked, he has done nothing but one. And the team has come together. They look like a good team. I think they're actually a good team now. I do too. I mean, their defenses, what they did to the Lions, and I don't really understand. I know their offensive line is banged up, but the Lions, when they were rolling the last couple years, they were running the football down people's throats. They just didn't even kind of try. I mean, they tried a little bit today. They only ran the ball 11 times.

1:42:19Jameer Gibbs had seven carries for two yards. The Steelers did an incredible job. It felt like every time they handed the ball off, the Steelers had a guy in the backfield, unblocked, ready to go. But yeah, the Lions, like the Steelers just dominated them, kind of. And the only reason that this was close to the end was Boswell, who is usually automatic, missed that kick. and the Lions were able to move the ball down the field because that's what they – they have these moments. Like they had – I think in the third quarter they had minus three yards. Yeah. They had a safety. And then they looked like they were stuck in mud.

1:42:53And then when they need yards fast, they can get them. But it's just too little too late. It felt like that happened a few times to the Lions this year where they're just going to look back and be like, man, that was a playoff team that just couldn't win a couple games late. What happened in the third quarter was the Lions just didn't have the ball at all. I think they ran like three plays. Rodgers on third down was money. Yeah, so it was the safety against Goff, and then the Steelers went on a drive that it took forever. It took the entire third quarter and kept the ball out of the Lions' hands, and by the time they got it back, I think they weren't really able to run the ball.

1:43:29No. And, yeah, the running game for – I mean, the Steelers had 481 yards of offense. When was the last time they – like, they don't do that. That's an insane, yeah. That's crazy. That doesn't work in my brain. 230 on the ground, 266 passing. Nuts. And then I guess, I don't know, or that was, that doesn't add to 480. How did I get 480? Did I do it right? You said 200 what yards passing? 260 plus 230. Wait, no, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm an idiot. It's late. I'm stupid. It's 490. Yeah, yeah, that is. That is. That's it. But, yeah, the Steelers' offense looks good again. And it's not even – it's basically – it doesn't feel like the Steelers have changed their offense much because a lot of short passes is just that Aaron Rodgers can do that, like, efficiently to a high, high efficient level.

1:44:20Yeah, and if Warren's running like that, if he's getting blocking and he's going 45-yard touchdown runs, then everything looks great for the Steelers. Congratulations to Mike Tomlin as well, over.500. 22 straight seasons the Steelers have been 500 or better. It's pretty good. That's insane. This is Mike Tomlin's 19th consecutive non-losing season with the win over the Lions. That's, I mean, I know that there's been a lot of jokes about it and the team hasn't won a playoff game in a long time, but 22 straight years of being over 500, 500 or better, that's, I mean, think about how many things can go wrong in a season.

1:45:00I would take that. And it just never happened. The Steelers are just consistently always there. I think a fan of a losing franchise would say that they would take that in a heartbeat. And you would. But then it would get to about year 17 or 18. You'd be like, what the fuck? Come on, man. Yeah. So the Lions are now, they have to win out. And the Packers have to lose out. So it seems like this might be over for the Lions. Yeah. And then, so Sunday Night Football, the Ravens lose to the Patriots. The Ravens are now on the outside big time. The Steelers can win with a – or clinch with a win in Week 17 against – who do they play?

1:45:40Browns. So, Hank, Steelers – or, sorry, Patriots, Ravens, thoughts? It was a great game, great comeback. Can't lose a primetime game to Stu Puntley coming off a loss. Mm-hmm. A lot of injuries. O-line was banged up. Drake, man, no time to throw. Overcame all that. Threw for 380. Whoa. Down 10 in the fourth quarter. Let it come back. Got the win. Feels good. So the 300-yard club is now officially dead and buried. Yeah, I mean, we talked about it. 300 yards, it's a meaningless stat. It doesn't really measure a lot. I do think 350 yards probably is a – like that's a level above. And 300 yards, anyone can do it.

1:46:24Nobody says that. But 350 yards is the sign of a truly elite quarterback that can really pass the ball and lead the team well. Hank, listen, you've seen a lot of football, and I have to defer my knowledge of – Well, you've seen more. You're like 20 years older. Yeah, but I have to defer my knowledge of elite quarterbacks to you. You've won how many Super Bowls? Six. Six Super Bowls. Yeah, one for the thumb on the right hand, one on the index. That's impressive stuff. You know that the real measure of a quarterback is what they do in the playoffs. It's true. And listen, I haven't been talking about the 300-yard thing for a while because like three weeks ago I thought about it, and I said on this program, it's a meaningless stat.

1:47:04Arbitrate. Drake May was averaging like 260 yards a game. The fact that he hadn't gotten to 300 was an aberration. Wait, I have a question. So he got 350 yards. Is there another quarterback that hasn't gotten to 350? I would have to look. I think there's probably a lot. Yeah, there's a ton of quarterbacks. Has Jaden? Like we just said, what matters is what you do in the playoffs. Right. But no. That's how you matter. He has not? No. If it wasn't for the Hail Mary, he wouldn't even be in 300. Not that that's that. 300 is not important. So 350 is the new club. 350 is a big number. I think if you can go for.

1:47:38That's a really good game. If you can go for 299 in the playoffs, that to me seems like, okay, now we're cooking. But you know what, Hank. So 350 club is a club. Big time. Big time club. You guys are trying to make Fetch happen. 350 is a sad number. That's a big number. It's a sad number to hone in on. Jalen Hurst is in the 350, right? Oh, yeah. He's got to be. Oh, for sure. I don't fucking know. Yeah, it doesn't matter because nobody cares about 350. Hank, listen. I told you this was going to be the week that it happened. I took Pat's money line. I took Drake May 300-plus yards, 10-1. Congrats.

1:48:19believed in him all week and guess what this was drake may's first come from behind game winning drive too so this was a lot of things that drake checked off the off the list he was super tough he got banged up a lot and now the patriots are looking good for the playoffs um they're going to get back to the playoffs for the first time since 2021 and that's when the titans were the one seed in those playoffs and you got to win the playoffs and and once drake does that he'll We'll check off that box too, I'm sure. Might check off a couple wins in these playoffs. And then you know as well as I do.

1:48:50It's got to be a great feeling. Don't mean a thing without the ring. That's a fact. But again, young team, young quarterback, first-year coach. It's been a great year. I'm happy to be back in the playoffs. It's exciting. Clinching the playoffs. Big Cat, it's exciting to finally. It's been a fun weekend. It's felt like we're a playoff team, we're a playoff team. But to finally have that X next to your name in the standings, For clinched. Sick X. That's great. It was a good X. Max, you got an X this weekend as well. A lot of Xs for the boys. For the record, Jalen Hurts is in that club. Yeah, of course he is.

1:49:23Caleb is as well. Just wanted to do it. He's had some bad guys. Last year against the Colts. Congrats. Yeah. Yep. Hank, listen. It's a big club. I've been telling you, Drake. I was a little worried. If we're being honest, I was a little worried. I was too. He's done it twice. Drake, everything, it's all fair to a time member. Hank, if you want to. To a time member of 350 Club is a huge deal. if you want to talk shit hank all fair i i did bring up in a past life that there's a 300 club that drake may wasn't in but i moved on from that the only oh he's only done it once i'm not gonna bring him the only issue the only 350 the only issue 350 club yeah you'd see you can't even remember what it is because 350 doesn't it doesn't roll off the tongue like molasses like 300 does but the only way the only problem i had with hank celebrating this yeah you know like some smooth coming out of your mouth.

1:50:11Yeah. The only problem I had with the way that Hank chose to celebrate Drake's entrance into the club, he sent an illicit picture that he took of me in my underwear to Gaz behind the scenes. A picture I had never seen before. Like, yeah, I didn't know that you had snapped a picture of me in my underwear. What? That's not true. I showed you the picture. Well, yeah. It was from a video on my phone. You have a video of me? When we both got spray tanned, yeah, I was taking content because that's, you know, kind of what we do on this podcast is like we lose bets and then we turn that into content so i was just shocked when we got ridiculous spray tans and we were sitting trapped in the studio for four hours i was filming videos i can't post the videos because we would probably get canceled but yeah that's a circle of trust group text i'm not worried about that getting that going out you don't think you don't think gaz is gonna put that out okay all right yeah of all people yeah gaz Gaz is a fair guy.

1:51:06So Gaz texted me and Hank at the same time, suck our dick. Well, yeah, it's called a group text. Yeah, and I was confused. I was like, why does Hank have to do it too? But then Hank just replied with a nudie pic, and I was like, I didn't know you had an underwear picture to be saved in your phone, Hank. Well, it's a picture of you. It was a sticker. It was even a sticker. It was a picture, yeah. It's a thumb. It's a thumb, PFT. It was a picture of you, which, again, I wish I could post a picture. I can't because. Thank you. We were a little too tan, but it was me and PFT were trapped in the studio while you guys were doing the cave.

1:51:40We wanted to save the reveal of the tan. So we were sitting in here for the whole afternoon slate, and it was when Shador got 300 yards, which PFT didn't care about at the time, was mocking me holding up a phone in his underwear with 300 on it. No, memes sent me that graphic, so I was showing you the graphic memes. So it's that picture. You think I made that graphic? no memes made it and he texted and i was like look at this hank keeping you up to date on the nfl news i'll send to the group because that's what we do we talk about it on the pod by the way hank you said one thing wrong just real quick shador is actually in the 350 club oh true yeah that's big for 364 yeah that's an elite club it's a huge game memes also memes why did you use Why did you do that meme on your personal?

1:52:31Wait, what was it? The Uno. Oh, the JMU one? No, the Uno one that he just posted. Did you see the one he posted last night? Sometimes I think something will flop. Oh. The one last night was even better. This one is ridiculous. What even is this picture? Wait, this is where memes doesn't even listen to the podcast, because I haven't brought that up in like a month. Oh, you deleted it memes. No, it's still there. It's on the part of my take account. Oh, you're talking about the one where I'm surrounded on the couch? Oh, yeah. That was an aggressive one. It was a disturbing one. Oh, my God. Oh, that's okay.

1:53:10I'm looking now at the picture of you in your underwear. It's a whole thing. The 300-yard club in Hank's face with the Chador celebration. Yeah. Now, that's a funny picture. It's a good sticker. That's a really good sticker. That's a good sticker. Oh, my God. It was unexpected to get hit with that when I didn't even know that picture existed. Good win, though, Hank. The Patriots are very much alive for the one seed. Are we, though? Well, so, all right, let's talk about one seed. Well, no, you know what? Let's wait to talk about the playoffs brackets because I do want to break it all down. I have a question for the group.

1:53:51we spent a lot of energy this year talking about mike tomlin getting fired and it feels to me like we just had the wrong longly 10 long tenured head coach in the afc north because it feels like harbaugh might be out it seems like he does not like lamar anymore like he's kind of sick of lamar's shit well there's two questions i have because there's the harbaugh one which i he's a very good coach and i think a lot of teams would probably want him similarly like mike tomlin he might have to take a year off but maybe it's you know the message isn't getting through anymore i don't know the ravens have not ever since they lost that was it two years ago where they lost the home as the one seed to the chiefs and that bad game plan when it was like this is the year they're going to go to the super bowl uh with lamar it feels like everything is kind of spiraled since then i also don't know i'm wondering where ravens fans are with lamar at this point i would I would be very curious to hear from Ravens fans because he's clearly an elite quarterback.

1:54:54He's won two MVPs and you can't, you know, you get injured. It's just, it's more that the injuries aren't ever things that are like, oh, that's an injury. Yeah. They're all, they're all mysterious. They're always mysterious. And they're always detective work. They're actually the worst injuries to have, uh, for meatball fan fan bases. I count myself as a meatball. Like, I'm not saying that in a derogatory way in the fact that if I don't see like a broken leg, I'm like, he's probably get out there. You're fine. Yeah. You know, and that's that's that's probably very frustrating for Lamar that he has to deal with people's second guessing his want to be out there.

1:55:34But there have been some weird things that have happened. And it was really it was very strange when Harbaugh came out after halftime and they said, OK, what's the plan with you and Snoop Huntley? And he said, well, Snoop can do everything that Lamar can do. Yeah. Which is not something that you would expect a coach to volunteer. Correct. Especially one that you've tied so close together. You know, like Lamar and Harbaugh have been the two guys in Baltimore for a long time. Yep. And they had a great relationship. I can't imagine Harbaugh saying this about Lamar four years ago. No. Three years ago.

1:56:04Maybe last year. But things don't seem to be going so hot between the two of them right now. I would agree. It just feels like something is up. And the Ravens are, I mean, they're not going to make the playoffs. I know that they're not officially eliminated, but you now have a Steelers team having to play the Browns. And if they somehow trip up, the Ravens would have to beat the Packers in Lambeau. Yeah. And then there would be still a final game in Week 18. So they have to do a lot to get in. It doesn't feel like this is the year for the Ravens. No. And it's ever since we had Stavion. Yeah. Listen, that teaches us a very valuable lesson.

1:56:46Yeah. Don't be nice to your friends when their teams are good because their teams might start sucking. So, yeah, I don't know. It just feels weird, does it not? The Ravens feel weird. They feel very weird. And it feels like there might be a change. A mutual parting of ways. Then John Harbaugh to Michigan. I mean, John Harbaugh is a very good coach. I think he will be a very good coach somewhere else. But it just feels like they're at a – I mean, I don't – would they get rid of Lamar maybe to the Jets memes? I spoke it into existence You did speak it into existence Good organization They think they're guys over the hump Might have injuries Send them to a bad organization Who's needy Haven't made the playoffs in 15 years Has a lot of draft capital Has a lot of draft capital That would be sick And would you want him?

1:57:30That's the big question Oh yeah Okay Oh yeah But you realize that in the scenario That you just You just explained It seemed like the Ravens Would be taking advantage of you Yes But in my case You get a younger quarterback We just took a shot on a 40-year-old. Yeah. Now, how old's Lamar? He's got to, what, he's 30 maybe? If he's 30, you sit him for an entire year, get fully healthy. Wait, that's not how it works. No, he's 28. He's going to be 29 in January. Oh, yeah. So you're going to trade. Every pick. Like three first-round picks for Lamar and then sit him for a year. He's not actually injured, though.

1:58:04I mean, he actually is injured, but he's not injured for. He's got to protect the quarterback. So you think that if you sit him for a full year, He's just going to get more healthy, over 100 % healthy. Yeah, we need over 100%. You think he's going to get better at football by sitting out for a year? Fully healthy Lamar is a weapon. He is. He's a really good quarterback. You know what? I want to see it happen. Yeah. Oh, my God. That'd be so sick. Maybe that's the path they pick. It just feels like if I had to, and I don't have any inside knowledge, But if I had to guess, it does not feel like next year both those guys are going to be there.

1:58:46I think it would surprise me at this point. Yeah, wouldn't it? Yeah. And again, there's no insight. I'm not saying that Harbaugh should be fired or that Lamar Jackson should be traded. There's just enough weirdness around the Ravens that it feels like they're going to make a change. They've got a conscious uncouple. And I'm very curious what Ravens fans think because I feel like they're in that same boat where it's like something's got to change. It's going to be tough. It's going to be tough for Ravens. If that does happen, either one of those two guys, I feel like it's going to be, you know, We didn't want it to end this way.

1:59:20We still love each other very much. Yeah. It just wasn't working out. We're happier apart. Hank, we should also say you overcame the worst no call. I think it was such a blatant pass interference that they got so confused they didn't throw a flag. Because there's no other explanation for them not throwing a flag when, who was it, got tackled? Booty? Booty. Booty got tackled. Full tackled. Full tackled. I think it's because he caught it at first. So they were just like, oh, he caught it so we don't have to throw a flag. and then once he kind of bobbled it and it got knocked out. But usually they still throw flags 20 minutes late anyway, so it was shocking.

1:59:55It was so, but I think, you know what I mean, where it's when a pass interference is so... It should have been called when the ball's in the air still. It's so blatant that it confuses the refs, and they pause for a second, and they're like, wait, did I? Shit, I blew that. I think every ref was waiting for the other ref to throw the flag. They had a guy that was standing there watching it. He was tackling him. Right in his face. I do agree. I think that if Booty... There was almost an interception after that. If they had lost the game after that. It would have been quite something. Riots. I do agree that if Booty had dropped it straight up, like if it bounced off his helmet, I think one of the refs would have thrown him.

2:00:28Yeah, right. It was just such a confusing play because there really isn't more of a textbook pass interference call. He got tackled like six different ways. Yeah. He took his arms down, and then he couldn't hold on to his arms, so he just grabbed his legs. And then we also had Zay Flowers with the most obvious. everyone watching the game was like he's about to fumble play when he cut it upfield the ravens have a lot of those yeah they really do across the board they also the tough i don't know if the rugby thing might have taken a hit too because oh mark andrews it worked last week yeah that was so funny and so they were like kind of drunk off the rugby passes and he just threw a crazy mark Mark Andrews is one of those guys.

2:01:14He's good for one really crazy, dumb play a year. We're like, what just happened? I think that they might have had that set up to be a lateral play, but maybe not just when you're being swung around to the ground. Yeah. Harbaugh forgot to go over that step. But good win for you, Hank. The Patriots are now tied for the best record in the AFC. So let's talk some playoffs. Let's break it down. So week 18 has a potential. If the Colts lose on Monday, week 18 has a potential to be really, really bad. Because right now, there's five teams that have clinched in the NFC. There's two teams that have clinched in the AFC.

2:01:50I believe the number goes up to five as well in the AFC. Yeah, if the Colts lose on Monday night, the Chargers and the Bills and the Jaguars will all join the playoffs. Yeah. And it makes things easier for the Texans. So it would be 5-5. There is really no drama. Now that we've lost kind of the AFC North drama, the only real drama is the NFC South and then all the one seeds because the one seeds are wide open for both conferences. The Broncos have the path right now because they have the tiebreaker over the Patriots. The Seahawks have the path right now because they have the best record in the NFC.

2:02:34but the teams that are still alive for the one seed, the Patriots, the Jaguars, the Chargers, I think are, and the Bills in the AFC. And then the teams that are alive for the one seed in the NFC are the Seahawks obviously have it right now, the Bears, the Rams, and the 49ers. So the Bills technically might still be like, they need the Patriots to lose to the Jets and the Dolphins. Yeah, the Bills have a very outside shot, But they're still alive technically for the one seed. It's crazy. Oh, you don't have a log in. Yeah. That's okay. That's okay. But, yeah, we're going to be one seed watching more than anything because there isn't a lot of drama in terms of who's getting in the playoffs.

2:03:19What's up, Hank? But there's a chance that – I have it right here. The Patriots have a 38 % chance for a one seed. But the problem is that the Chargers play the Broncos week 18, but that game might not matter for the Chargers. So the Chargers and the Texans play next week. If the Texans win that game, the Chargers will most likely sit all their starters. So I'm rooting for the Texans. No, you're rooting for the Chargers. You're rooting for the Chargers. And similarly, the Bears technically have a path to the one seed, but the issue is if they beat the 49ers, the 49ers will most likely sit their starters week 18 against the Seahawks.

2:04:02So it's like if the Seahawks don't – if the Seahawks beat the Panthers, they're pretty much going to be – they're either going to be playing the 49ers with the one seed or the 49ers will be resting people. Yeah. So the Bears are kind of screwed. A little bit. The Patriots have a chance. They just need the Chargers to win against the Texans. Correct. And then the Broncos obviously lose the Chargers. But that game becomes a lot more likely if they're playing the Chargers. Yes. Yeah, so right now the percentages are the Broncos have a 43 % chance at the one seed. The Patriots have a 38 % chance. Jaguars have a 12 % chance.

2:04:40And then the Bills, Chargers, and Texans are technically still alive for it but have less than a 3 % chance. Has anything changed about your teams that scare me rankings, Hank? Buffalo? No, it's Buffalo. That's it. Texans. I thought you were saying the Texans. Texans' defense scares me, but I feel like we could beat the Texans. Is the Jaguars scarier at all? It's just because it's the Jaguars. They're good, but it's the Jaguars. What about the – There's a big difference between – I respect the Texans. I respect the Jaguars. I respect all the teams in the playoffs, kind of except for the Steelers.

2:05:18But they don't scare me. But wouldn't the Steelers be under the Aaron Rodgers who's done it before? Yeah, but it's different. He's so old. Yeah, but they would have to – if you played the Steelers, that means they would have already won a playoff game. Monkey off their back. It's not the same. What about in Denver? Jerry's been thinking soupy. In Denver? I mean, the Jags went to Denver today and smoked them. Yeah. But you're not scared of the Jags. I know. Well, exactly. Correct. You just beat Snoop Huntley. it's hard to do i don't under like you guys ask me these questions i answer them then you're like you can't that's you're wrong but you ask me opinion these questions and then and then you tell me that my opinion is incorrect you're entitled to your opinion i'm entitled to mine the only team that scares me is the bills and would you play the i it could be the bills at the patriots yeah in the first round yeah that'd be something man playoffs are gonna rock the The playoffs are going to rock.

2:06:21And, I mean, I guess the Chargers, that's ball club, so I should be very scared of them. Good point. That is a ball club. How many teams in the playoffs are ball clubs? Patriots, ball club. So every team's a ball club. No. No. The Broncos are teetering on ball club after today. Okay. Let's see. If you lost in week 16, you might not be a ball club. NFC. Let's see in the NFC. Yeah, Packers might be a ball club. I don't know if they're a ball club. I think with Malik Willis, they're a ball club. They could be. They play ball. Oh, man. Yeah, we're careening towards maybe the least consequential week 18 we've had in a long time.

2:07:03Yeah. There could be some things figured out well ahead of. I think the only chance we have to save week 18 is if we have multiple games that mean something for the one seed. So that would be Chargers and Broncos Potentially Niners and Seahawks That's really the only chance This is exactly why the NFL Should make The Top 10 draft picks Make those contingent on Maybe what happens in week 18 Yeah If you're tied for the worst Worst team in football If you win that game That's actually good for your draft order Do you know what would be awesome And this is a very easy one that they could fix every team that's eliminated in week 18

2:07:52the team of all the eliminated teams that scores the most points gets a compensatory pick pick number 33 I like that so just teams just going balls to the wall trying to score points chucking it yeah and it's just you get the 33rd pick that would be awesome I don't hate it yeah do something to make these things mean something but just like teams would go nuts for it and everyone would try really hard. We're going to have some crazy spreads bouncing back and forth in Week 18. Yeah. What, Memes, do you like that idea or no? I know what you're saying, but I don't think you can get the players to be like, oh, I'm playing for a draft pick.

2:08:28Yeah, true. Maybe they have to do money too. Yeah, money, money. Money and draft pick. If your team that's eliminated scores the most points on that Week 18 Sunday, extra$200 ,000. There you go. Cancun. Players would pay for that. Yeah, Cancun. Oh, I forgot to bring up. All right, I got to look this up real quick because I want to make sure that I get my facts right. I saw there was a Reddit AMA and it was a wife of NFL player checking in. Okay? So we're going to guess the player? Well, so the person, they basically let it slide that it was the Texans. Okay. And then people were trying to guess the player, and it seemed like, this is all alleged, seemed like people were landing on Daniil Hunter as the player.

2:09:24And it's his wife that is doing the AMA. I only bring this up because someone asked, how often do you perform oral sex on him? and her reply was almost every day or other day. That's got to be Austin being the NFL. Just point blank she said that. Now, are we sure this was actually a wife? They said that the mod said she sent me proof. And, like, I don't know how they vet these things. I'm not very familiar with any of these rules. If that is, that's DeNeal Hunter. Again, this is all we don't know of this fact, but that's props, dude. What's his name? DeNeal Hunter. I would guess Davis Mills. Big neck guy.

2:10:06Almost every day or other day. Good for him. Good for him. That's a wild answer. So she could actually be the milf hunter. This has got to be like one of those situations. Almost every day. What about when we do Super Bowl Sunday? Like after practice? Yeah, we eat wings all day and ice cream. Even I don't want it. If you get a sack. Maybe it's if you get a sack. Victory Monday. Wild, wild story. Okay. Before we do, who's back of the week? I got the Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com. Promo code TAKE.

2:10:50PFT, are you happy with how JMU performed on Saturday night? We can talk about college football real quick as well. We covered, which was awesome. That was a great cover. The only losing team to cover. We played really good in the second half. I know that there's – I'll just be honest. The first half was about as bad as you could play defensively. Oregon was awesome. Their receivers were very fast, very talented, and Moore had a great first half. I think – what was the score at halftime? Was it like 30-3, 34, something like that? Yeah. It was a blowout, and Oregon could get whatever they wanted at any given time.

2:11:23But then JMU, I was proud, honestly. Last night I went home from the game, and I was in a pretty good mood. One, because they covered. Two, because they played really hard and really good in the second half, which has kind of been JMU's mode all season long. They're, I think, the second best second-half team in college football. So I wasn't surprised that they played better in the second half. The 99-yard drive to cover, get the back door at the end, was elite. That was a great drive. It was. And it was against Oregon starters on defense, too. So Oregon didn't really rest any of their starters on offense.

2:11:57they put in some second stringers in the second half on defense occasionally but they kept their first stringers in rotation so anyone out there that's saying like they took all their stars out of the game on defense they didn't watch the game yeah and in on that fourth quarter drive to end the game the 99 yards it was almost all oregon starters in there so i was i was proud of how the boys fought and uh listen if you look at the playoffs last year penn state beat smu by 28 Ohio State beat Tennessee by 25. If you look at the Ohio State-Oregon game last year with 450 left in the second quarter, Oregon was losing 34 to nothing.

2:12:35So blowouts happen in the playoffs sometimes. It sucks that JMU is kind of lumped in there with Tulane as being like, this is what's wrong with college football. Yeah. The reason why those two teams are in there is because of the conferences and the TV rights deals and the college football playoff committee trying to throw some bones to the major conferences to make sure that your conference championship games mean something and that they get bigger ratings. So it's not JMU's fault that they were put into this circumstance. But as an alumni, I'm very proud of the way that the Dukes played. I thought that second half was awesome.

2:13:09Most teams would have just given up. And the defense stepped up. Moore got picked off twice in the second half, and it wasn't because Dan Lanning was like, hey, go out there and throw some picks. We got this game won. You scored 34 points. You can ask Dan Lanning, because after the game, he was like, that sucked. Yeah. He was pissed off. He thought that JMU outplayed Oregon in the second half, which they did. And even though Oregon was a much better team than the Dukes were, still proud of the boys. Yeah. That was – I mean, you guys gave at least – I know the game was never really in doubt, but the fact that you were able to score, it wasn't just three and outs and turnovers.

2:13:47Tulane was – that was – I barely watched that game. Like I watched the first half and we watched what was happening and we're like, all right, well, this is, this, they got no chance. Yeah. And I know Jim, you went down a similar path in the first half, but yeah, they fought Alabama. Oklahoma was a great game. Oklahoma. It feels like man, that dropped pass that would have taken the game to 24, nothing. You let Alabama back in and Alabama is a good enough team that if you let them back in they're gonna pounce on it and that was that was it like you could you they had them on the ropes and they just that that was just and then you had the pick six you had the the drop punt it was just they had them and now alabama is a dangerous team what a catch what a catch for germy bernard yeah that was sick yeah alabama yeah they their offense looked pretty good they're a dangerous team now they're a danger i still like indiana i might even like them with with the points i think it's what 10 points yep yeah i mean i know it's a big spread but indiana is a fucking wagon and alabama's they've had their issues this year but they look great against oklahoma yeah and and then yeah we'll do a preview of these games next week reminder we have a show coming out wednesday or actually should come out like later tuesday afternoon so you have a little time uh to listen to it and then we have uh new year's week we're gonna have a show monday and friday so we're gonna have a preview of this game of the games and then we'll have a recap on Friday previewing week 18 the Miami Hurricanes went in and to Texas A &M and just completely shut down that offense and I I hate doing the retroactive fraud thing because Texas A &M did have a great season but they found the luck of having to play the bottom of the SEC schedule and then scoring three points at home is it's pretty bad that was one of the most shitty most entertaining games the end two was very entertaining yeah it was awesome you had michael irvin having simultaneous strokes and orgasms on the sidelines for the entire game you had every missed kick you had fumbles you had turnovers you were you had the the best was you had malachi tony fumbling the ball and you know that malachi tony is a good enough player an electric enough player like he's going to find a way to make up for it and then he did they scored the game winning touchdown fletcher needs to touch the ball more for miami yeah fletcher was the best player on the field during that game And Marcel Reed is – I've never seen a drive where we were watching it and I was just never been more convinced that an interception was going to happen.

2:16:24Yeah. And it did. Yeah, but Fletcher. Give the ball to Fletcher. He's a beast. Now this second round is going to be awesome. Oh, you buried the lead. Ole Miss set the Guinness Book of World Records record for most people wearing Santa hats. Oh, yeah. They made a big deal of that on the broadcast. 68 ,000 people wore Santa hats at the game. And shout out our guy Lane Kiffin. I think 250. Good for him. Listen, JMU might have gotten smoked, but it wasn't set a world record for wearing Santa hats bad. That's true. That's tough if that's the focus of the broadcast. That's true. That's a fact. Also, Oregon was only three for seven on third downs.

2:17:00It's just incredible that Oregon only had seven third downs. That is insane. All game. The game lasted forever. It took forever. I did look up a stat because I had a lot of people being like JMU, clown show in the first half, which I agree with you. It was as bad as it can get. In that same game that I was talking about, Oregon-Ohio State, in the first half of that game, Ohio State had touchdown drives of three plays for 75 yards, three plays for 54 yards, two plays for 50 yards, and one play for 66 yards. So blowouts happen sometimes. So the only thing that I don't understand, and I guess I do understand it because this is how social media works and this is the world we live in, college football has a shitload of problems i think we all can agree with that yeah like it's it seems on teetering on the on the point of breaking when you have you know kenny dillingham having to say i need someone to write me a 20 million dollar check when you have announcements of of players re-signing with their schools you have playoffs that are voted on by you know we don't understand you have teams that could have won national championship kept out of the playoffs All this stuff is bad.

2:18:10And the super conferences where teams don't play each other in Miami, all this shit. I just don't understand when the actual game's happening, why every touchdown has to be like, now we have to declare how it's broken and here's how it needs to be fixed. Like the game's on. We have a whole off season to maybe talk about fixing this. It'd be like touchdown Ole Miss. Well, this is why G5 can't be in here and this whole thing is broken. Yeah, like we agree, but I'm still going to just watch the game. Yeah, I agree with you for the most part, but if you were a Notre Dame fan watching those games, I say you let those takes fly.

2:18:47I was talking about college football media. College football media having a big take about it and being like, I feel so bad for these kids. Shut the fuck up and let the game finish. Let the game happen. And then we can do the big picture takes after the game's over. But yeah, if I'm a Notre Dame fan, I would have been watching the JMU game. I would have been judging every single sack that Tulane took, and I would have been like, this is such fucking horse shit. I know. I completely get it if you're a Notre Dame fan, but I'm put in a position where I'm forced to defend my boys. Yeah, Notre Dame is stuck in the spot where they lost to Texas A &M in Miami, and that game was not visually appealing for the majority of it, and you can't really complain about that one.

2:19:28I did like Michael Irvin during the game, though. And then after the game, he kissed Mario Cristobal on the cheek. Yep. And Mario Cristobal did not like it No he's mad Like not even joking around He was mad He's just like What's up with all this gay shit Mike Yeah Hey dude Pause The boys in the locker room Are not gonna respect me anymore Yeah Why'd you do that Did you think I would like it Another man just kissed me Cause I didn't I didn't like it at all Max Please don't do it again Sorry about Villanova Yeah That's fine Okay Brawl of the Wild was awesome It was good yeah Yeah Is it the Super Brawl Or the Brawl of the Wild because I saw it being called both.

2:20:04I think so. It's called the Brawl of the Wild, but since it was in the playoffs, in the playoffs, it was a Super Bowl. Got it. That was an awesome game. Yeah, I don't know. I just, when the game is on, I want to watch the game and I don't need to pontificate about how everything's broken and everything's the worst. I did listen to Joel Klatt. He talked about us. Oh, what did he say? Regarding his take about college basketball in the NCAA tournament. Did he agree to take his man card away? Yeah, he agreed. Well, he agreed, yes, you can take my man card. He said that he said it in the worst possible way, made his point very poorly, and then he went on to explain it and recommit to his original point.

2:20:41Okay. So this is fun. Listen, this is fun. We love you, Joel. Well, what he did, he said almost exactly what we said, which is you don't want to see the Cinderella's playing in the Final Four. Correct. I do like seeing the Cinderella's advance and see if they get into the Elite Eight. Upsets in the first two rounds, Blue Bloods lead. Yeah, and occasionally if you get one high seed in the Final Four, that's good. We don't want two in the Final Four. But he kind of agreed with that. But then he kind of doubled down on, yeah, you don't want to see any of the team's advance. So we've got to keep his man card.

2:21:13We've got to keep the man card. We're going to have to keep it. I think he'll understand. Yeah, we do love you, but your man card is ours. Yep. He also said it was early in the morning when he did that interview. And they like to have fun in that interview. It's like Alex Jones in the Chili. Yeah, I guess it escaped containment. and reached a wider audience. He's sorry he got caught. That's what it came down to. He's sorry he got caught with a bad take. It's okay, Joel. We all have bad takes. Oh, man. Yeah, we do love Joel. All right, let's do Who's Back of the Week, and then we'll send everyone on their way.

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2:22:16I think I'm a half and half guy with you now. It's good. It's good. Yeah. Okay, Hank, you're Who's Back of the Week. Bad boxing displays. Ah. This was on Friday, Jake Paul fight, which it's entertainment. And if people are watching, like we're in entertainment, if people are watching, people are watching. You keep doing what works. Yeah. I was saying it to the group tax that it's sad that a real boxing fight could not generate this type of buzz. Agreed. Anthony Joshua, if he was fighting another heavyweight, no one would really care. He called out Tyson Fury. That would be awesome. That would be awesome.

2:22:57But for the most, like, whatever, I don't know who he fought in his last five fights. And it was just, I mean, he, it was, it was a pro Olympic champion, real heavyweight boxer versus Jake Paul, who is not a real boxer at all. And they basically danced around for a few rounds. And then Anthony Joshua, like, broke his jaw. I agree with everything you're saying. The only thing I would disagree with is I think we all were just lusting after Jake Paul finally getting knocked out. Yeah, that was, that was what everyone wanted to see. I wish he'd gotten knocked out cold. He did not. The other thing that I would like to say, because there was a lot of people like defending it almost being like, no one would like, not a lot of people would step into that ring.

2:23:38I think if you offered a lot of people, a hundred million dollars, they would, I would step in the ring. I would like, if there's a chance I, you know, maybe die, I guess, get my, my teeth broken, jaw broken, a hundred million dollars for what is essentially, I think the, the stat was he was in the ring for like 35 minutes. or something and made$100 million. I think a lot of people would take that. Yeah, what gets confusing is... Everyone was like, oh, Jake Paul, not a lot of people would do that. If you don't have respect for him, what are you doing? He's also committed his life to being a boxer.

2:24:11I think the biggest takeaway is Jake Paul is a pretty good athlete. That's really all I take away from him. Yeah, he's a pretty good boxer. He's a pretty good athlete. I think that it would be almost worse. But is committing your life to being a boxer like a noble cause? No, no, no, no. I'm saying the opposite. I'm saying like he like it's impressive. No, it's what was impressive. I think I'll explain it real quick, Hank. So for me, if you were to say PFT, would you take a hundred million dollars to step into the ring against name? Name your heavyweight boxer. I would say yes. And then I'd get knocked out probably in the first five seconds.

2:24:44And Jake Paul went into the ring and he fought for how many rounds? How many minutes? Thirty five minutes. And he got punched repeatedly in his head very hard. and in his body very hard, and that had to hurt a lot. I think that's harder to do than take one shot to the face. The impressive part to me is that Jake Paul is a pretty good athlete. That's it. So you walked away from that impressed with Jake Paul? No. I already knew he was a pretty good athlete. I was not impressed with the fight at all. If you get mad at a Jake Paul fight at this point, it's on you. I agree. They do the same thing over and over and over again, and it's always this is the worst fight I've ever seen, and this one just happened to have a knockout at the end of it, which everyone kind of liked.

2:25:27But, no, I'm not upset with Jake Paul. I think that what he did, getting punched repeatedly by a superior athlete, a heavyweight champion, pretty impressive to stand in there. And I don't mind. I'll still watch. I like this one a lot more than the Mike Tyson one because it was at least – the Mike Tyson one was weird just because he was so old. This one was like, oh, this guy. If he had somehow lost, it would have been insane, but it was like he's going to kill him. When's it going to happen? and it eventually did. I was just more surprised with the reaction online afterward. People were like, that was like, you got to tip your cap to Jake Paul.

2:26:00No. That was big ups to Jake Paul. No, that's my point. Not a lot of people would do that. And I was like, I feel like a lot of people would definitely do that. Yeah, that was what I was saying about the training thing. I think there's a lot of pretty good athletes out there that if they committed their life to it, could look similar to Jake Paul in the ring. Yeah. And similar by that, what I mean by that is can hold their own, beat some MMA fighters, and then when they fight a real fighter, get knocked out. Yeah. That's really what it comes down to. Like, he's a way better athlete than I am. Obviously, he's a way better athlete than, I don't know, 99 % of the world.

2:26:38But there's still professional athletes that are significantly more skilled. Yeah, I really have no interest in watching any more Jake Paul fights. Maybe ever. I might tune in I might just like I'll still watch It's like the classic Like if it's on Yeah And it's easily accessible Like I'll still watch Yeah And he's The one thing you have to say about him The impressive part is He's An insane businessman Yeah That part is true I mean he's gotten to this point Yeah he's made a lot of money Where he's made a lot of money Being able to Imagine Telling anyone Like hey If you If you do this That and the other You can You can basically live your fantasy Of trying to become a professional boxer and get paid hundreds of millions, that's the impressive part.

2:27:21Yeah, it's pretty cool. Kirk Cousins is a good businessman too. Yeah. But yeah, it was not a – The fight sucked. It was not a good fight. The fight sucked. And I agree with your overall tank, Hank. Take Hank that you – I wish there were like a good big-time heavyweight fight is awesome. And I wish we were still in a spot where boxing had that more often. Yeah. Yeah, boxing's dead. Yeah. It's currently dead. It might get brought back to life. It's a bad spot. But boxing, as we know it, is dead. Did you also see Anthony Joshua give a very sensual interview to Ariel Hawane? Yes. Yes. Oh, my God. Just pull it up real quick just to see.

2:28:03He had both his hands. He had both his arms, his hands on Ariel Hawane's shoulders and was, like, staring into his eyes. He's a good-looking guy. Look at this, Hank. Look at that. Hawane? That's how he did the whole interview. With both his hands on his shoulders. Yeah, no, Anthony Joshua is a really good-looking guy. He's talking about Helwani. Oh. No, he's not. Yeah, he did break his jaw. I did see the picture of the teeth. It looked like a broken jaw to me. Yeah, not a phantom punch. Yeah. And that's where it's not real because Jake Paul broke his jaw, got knocked out, and his next post on instagram is sitting on a plane with cash everywhere and guns like real real boxers get knocked out they're not being like haha but i won yeah yeah and they're there they're they lost and that's demoralizing and that's what he does after every fight yeah like regardless how how good the fight was if it was just like him dancing around with a guy that's oh and 40 lifetime yeah and then everyone's mad at him next picture on a pj yeah thanks for the money he just kept on trying to take him down yeah okay your who's back uh my who's back of the week is bad boxing matches because it was uh dk metcalf against a fan oh yeah that was crazy it was not he's gonna get fine suspended i don't know we'll see but the definitely 500k he didn't land anything yeah he didn't lay it still so the nfl doesn't mess around when it comes to the fans the fan like called him over because he had a dk metcalf jersey apparently but he was a Lions fan with blue hair he used government name he big teed him it was the same thing oh he did really try to throw a punch and it's really, DK, it's tough when you do it with a guy in Honolulu blue hair with a wig the guy said after that he just called him by his real whatever, Dicarious, whatever his full name is thank god he didn't land a punch and the guy celebrated right afterwards too yeah, no this guy's probably a dick but DK's gotta know to just not go up to him.

2:30:08Also, if I'm that guy's lawyer, I am so disappointed in the fact that you raised both your hands in victory after getting punched. You've got to fall to the ground. You've got to get stretchered out of there. You've got to show up in a neck brace for work tomorrow. You can't sell that to a jury right there. It's disappointing. Yet again, why we need to have a fight a player rule. It would be the best rule in sports. If I was the Steelers, I just would have given DK the ball every play for the rest of that game because he's probably going to be suspended next week. Yeah. Okay, MyHoo's back. It's actually two college football stories we forgot to mention.

2:30:44One, thoughts and prayers to Johnny Manziel. Hopefully he gets better. He missed game day. He did, yeah. He got norovirus on the way to the air. So apparently he went to the Jake Paul fight in Miami and then probably kept it pretty low-key afterwards and then got on a plane or was about to get onto a plane to fly to College Station. But on the way to the airport early in the morning after going to the Jake Paul fight in Miami, he came down with norovirus. That's brutal. Which is the worst kind of virus that you can get, I think. And so he wasn't able to make game day. Ah. And, yeah, he said that he was feeling about a 3 out of 10.

2:31:233 out of 10. Which is, that was also the final score. That was the final score. There's almost nothing on the, can you open that up again? there's almost nothing on this earth that have made me miss that game i will continue to let everyone out there run with a fake narrative and at the end of the day perception always wins over wait so he's actually being 100 truthful here he said there's almost nothing on this earth that would have made me miss that game yeah yeah jake paul fight he was at the jake paul that's part of the things that would make him miss the game i went to there's almost nothing that means there is something right well let me just put it to you this way i went to miami yada yada yada i missed my flight the next morning yeah but he's being truthful nor virus he said there's almost nothing i mean and and if there's almost nothing that means there is something that would make him miss that game you'd have to think jake paul fighting anthony joshua is in that something category a pretty solid party might be one of those things yeah okay by the way alex russo who is the man way to step up that that was the only part i didn't like because everyone been like then we got alex russo is a one and a half time nba champion six man of the year put some fucking respect on his name first italian player to win defensive player of the year ever yeah history of the nba he's the absolute man true guy's guy so let's let's put some respect on his name and then my other one was uh marcus freeman's jets rumors or giants rumors so let's get it going yeah because it's starting i don't know i do think that college coaches will always try to go to the nfl because it's easier but marcus freeman does feel like he's got a really good thing going on at notre dame and i know this is not how the real how how marcus freeman thinks but maybe deep down if you hit him with true serum, missing the playoffs, did kind of buy him an incredible hypothetical win.

2:33:28In that, if he misses him next year, it's like, well, yeah, but in 2025 they could have won it all. Yeah. Like, he didn't have to go – would you rather – I think there's a little bit of that going on right now. Yeah, would you rather get screwed out of a playoff spot or lose in the first round of the playoffs? I think it's screwed out of a playoff spot. Yeah, I mean, it would have been pretty sweet if JMU had gotten left out of the playoffs. and then Duke got blown out by Oregon and then I could have been like, we would have given a better game. Right. You basically have a hypothetical for the rest of your life being like, well, we never know what would have happened with the 2025 Notre Dame Fighting Irish.

2:34:03Yeah. And that is something that all Notre Dame fans should take with them forever. I know they will. You just say, well, if we had gotten in, it could have gone down differently. And you can also use this entire postseason to just bend college football to your will. Oh, yeah. By being like, you fucked us over so bad this year that we're never going to join a conference and we get an auto bid. Although they are probably going to have to join a conference. They might have to join a conference. They're definitely going to have to join a conference. Zach, finish us off. Oh, never mind. We're on. Sorry.

2:34:30My Who's Back of the Week is going to be a redemption arc. Week three, Challengers Cup Tyra Bush have secured the victory today. All right. They're locked in. How much is this? How much are you getting paid for this? Promo. Oh, I'm not a transactional guy. I just thought it would be a fun update. You know, there was a little bit of controversy with the rosters. Got a new guy, but I can backbill. Who put you up to this? I just thought maybe you guys wanted to take. That was me. Max, you put him up to this? So who puts you up to it, Max? No one put me up to it. That's a lie. Well, in transparency, his who's back was boxing.

2:35:06Ah. And then he started to panic, so I just said Bush. Bush. And Bush is back. Bush won today. No one is more back in this exact moment than Bush. They are back. So they won the whole thing? Yeah, they won. This week? Swept through Saturday, got to Sunday, swept through Sunday, went to Map 7. It's pretty electric. So what happens now when a bigger team buys even more of your players? Well, Pipeline has been established because TJ did go to serve. But is the Pipeline good? Do you get paid for it? I believe the Pipeline can be a good thing. But do you get paid for it? Because you establish buyouts.

2:35:43Very little amount. Very little amount. You do get paid. They got paid$2 ,000. Oh, okay. So you do get paid something. It's all about establishing the pipeline. So you're just going to try to keep getting players to get bought. Or, you know, win games too. And then get to the next level. Ground up. And then go up to the next level. Yes, sir. Which is just winning enough that you go up. You just win it. You know, no, you win the challengers. You establish a brand, you know. Build a fan base. A lot of guys back in the bush. I will say it feels like the bush is doing. Some lifestyle content. Things are going well.

2:36:16I'll say that. I'm a Bush fan. They've won two out of three weekends. It's fun to kind of watch. I still don't understand the economics of this entire thing, but I will say from an outsider's perspective, it's going well. And I back the Bush. I don't get it. Without my money, but I back the Bush. I don't get it, but I'm glad you're having fun, Zach. Yeah. I appreciate that. If you enjoy it, are you winning, son? Yeah. That's me. That's me. I want to see you play, though. No, I'm no good. Zach the Bush. I will play, though. Ooh, I like Zach the Bush. Zach the Bush. Zach the Bush. We're playing.

2:36:53He's playing. He is going to play. We got all sorts of games. Let's do it. Yeah, we got to win a national championship. There's one man in our way, Big Cat. Jeremiah Smith. Yes. Jeremiah Smith. By the way, what happened? Jeremiah Smith has fucked us up. What happened to Ryan Williams? I don't know. That's a good question. His hands don't work. It's very strange. Yeah. Yeah, it is. But they're still alive. So maybe he's got a redemption, right? Jason Woodlock might have been right. Okay, so let's see. Three playoff bursts clinched on the podcast this weekend. So we're going to have some playoff football.

2:37:31And then, Zach, you're the last one we're waiting for. Week 18. Let's do it. Week 18. I cannot believe the Bucs are still alive. It's fucking ridiculous. They're never going to be dead. Somebody has to do it. Seriously, they're going to play Week 18. They're going to lose to the Panthers, and then there's going to be a report. Well, if the Bucs, if they show up to the first round of the playoffs, we'll have to let them play. Baker Mayfield. Yeah. Career high, 397 passing yards. Oh, he's in the 350 club. Yeah, congrats, Zach. That's huge. That's a really sad stat. After I even explained to you that 300 doesn't mean anything.

2:38:04No, but 350. Zach Wilson has 350. Whoa. Mike White's done it twice. Whoa. Big boy club. Boom. The big boy club. You can't use my shit against me. Tell me Justin Fields. Justin Fields might. Oh, he did it for the commanders. Yeah. Yeah. We had that game. Yeah. DJ Moore had like 200. Yeah, he had a couple. I think he had another one, too. He's maybe done it a couple times. Doing the playoffs. Doing the playoffs. Playoffs. All that matters. Hanks told me that 400 times. Season doesn't start. He did not. Justin Fields did not. Oh, no. He didn't? That's actually, you know, whatever. Still not bad. It's better to be more exclusive on the club anyway.

2:38:53Yeah. No, yeah, we got Zach and Mike. Has Orlovsky done it? What do you have in the game? Orlovsky tweeted about it today. Yeah, no, he tweeted about the 300, but is he in the 350? I don't know. Because that would be. It's not actually a club, so I don't keep track.

2:39:12He is 350. Oh, wow. On the dot. What a stud. 350. Way to go. 353. Okay. Good game. Good show, boys. We'll see everyone. What time are we going to release the pod on Tuesday? Afternoon? Give people some time to listen if they have flights and stuff. Yeah. So we're going to. It's a quick turnaround. We're not going to do. We're going to do an abbreviated preview. But we do have two great interviews We have Ryan Whitney And Stephen Jenkins From Third Eye Blind He came in studio and it was awesome We're big fans If you're a fan of Third Eye Blind 90's music, today's music Very interesting dude Okay numbers, three You're going to get it today memes By the way Zach, great job Great job on the whole studio I appreciate that big guy, glad you like it Some people are pointing out that Drake may threw for 300 yards before Mims got the lottery ball.

2:40:12Oh, wow. Now you're trying to switch this? You're making a fucking phony chain.

2:40:19I'll go 35. 51. 8. I'll go 1.

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2:40:3318. Oh, boy. 18's been hot. It has. We gotta fight in the booth Why what's the fight Zach took Shane's number And he's upset even though it didn't hit So there's no reason to be upset You wanna go one more you wanna switch numbers You can have 8 dude Do we all switch Do we all switch Shane do you wanna switch Are we all switching I'll take 51 You shouldn't have 51 Someone's gotta take 3 I don't wanna take 3 but someone's gotta take 3 Anything under 50. I'll take eight. Lamar Jackson. I'm going to stick with 100. 99. You can have one. No, I don't want one. All right, I'll take three. Ravens fans also responded to the Photoshop Lamar.

2:41:19Saying what? Harbaugh out. Oh, okay. So that makes sense. Lamar would be the player. Yeah. He's 28. Yeah. I'll go 15. What if this? 71. Memes, what's your number? What if this is three? Then I'd be happy for Bigby. Be fired up What's your number memes? His is 8 8 for Lamar

2:41:4428 Oh 28 That's good Okay fine Do we have to record one for the next show? No We're doing Nope we'll be here You could just press it You're so close I'll press it but it doesn't count Practice? Sure This doesn't count This does not count Sure We'll just Press it up Press it down You could actually just say love you guys and then we end it. Love you guys. There's so many integers of three. 73. Love you guys. That didn't count though.

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