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25:21PFT Commenter:As a big guy yourself, if you ever had a chance to score, you've got to take it. If it ruined my bet, no way. You'd fall right down. You wouldn't be betting. You'd be playing. Yeah, I would. Jordan Davis, by the way, the first guy ever, possibly, that in training camp when you hear best shape of his life, that he's actually in the best shape of his life. Yeah. And it's, like, very much apparent. Yeah. It's nice. It's nice to see the big boy run like that. I know. He's a different player this year, and it's awesome. Also, the Eagles are going up against – this is kind of like where good teams have to become great teams when they start to get a lot of shit from the league.

25:58So the Eagles are now going up against the league who want to ban the tush push. Yep. There was another tush push today that was pretty clearly a false start, but they didn't call it. Yep. Even though they were told to call it tight this week. So the Eagles are beating the league in that way. And also, Max, did you hear that the league fined Big Dom? Yes. They fined him$75 ,000 this past week. That's a lot of ziti. For using a phone from the bench area during the Eagles-Jets preseason game. I don't understand.

26:29PFT Commenter:The best part of this story, though, is the Eagles appeal. Yeah. Because the Eagles tried to appeal saying he only had one foot in the bench area. He had one foot. I didn't know that. So is having one foot out of the bench area, does that make you out, like out of bounds? Or does that make you in bounds with one foot? Regardless,$75 ,000 is a lot of money to find a man for using a cell phone. Yeah. I don't understand why. They're out to get him. Anti-attacking. Yeah, very much anti-attacking. It does feel like this is FBI against the mob right now. Yeah. I don't. Yeah, I don't get it. I don't get it.

27:01It seems personal. It seems personal. He's got to start using burners.

27:05PFT Commenter:God bless our colleague, Stephen Shea, because he, like, totally serious, asked Max if there was a chance Big Dom was texting him in that moment. Oh, did he? Yeah. And Max was like, what did you just say to me? He's like, hey, you know when Big Dom got a fine for texting on the bench? Do you think it was texting to you? Yes. He was like. What is this question you're asking me right now? We got to start. I think he thinks that me and Big Dom just like text like he's my girlfriend. Be like, what's going on? How's your day going? I got a question. Why is that against the rules? I don't know. Oh, yeah.

27:42No, I don't know. For Big Dom, who is head of security, there's probably a good reason why Big Dom, as head of security, would have his phone on him at all times. Yeah, no, that makes no sense to me. I don't understand. And it seems like there was another, like, Saquon got a fine today, or they, like, gave him a fine for a play last week where he, like, lowered his head towards another guy, and that was, like,$35 ,000.

28:06PFT Commenter:Yeah, yeah. Why was this$75 ,000 when the other one is, like, like, that actually makes sense. Like, we're trying to keep, like, the players safe and everything. Well, even if we want to even go further for this game, Puka Nakua getting that taunting penalty when he's pointing to the end zone. Let him taunt. Taunting is bullshit. We are strong believers on this podcast that they should get to taunt as much as they want. Or at the very least, the 49ers should get to. And specifically in the 49ers, Ricky Pearsall and Brian Robinson Jr. should both be allowed to do the guns. Yeah, absolutely. If you walk off a gunshot, then yeah, you get to use that celebration.

28:44But taunting is fun. Taunting is great. The only taunting that shouldn't be allowed is D-backs after they do nothing.

28:51PFT Commenter:See, I like it because then they can have someone catch a ball over their head and then get double taunted on. That's the thing. When you taunt someone, you know that there's a chance that they'll get to taunt you back. Like Puka Nakua, what he did was not taunting. It shouldn't have been a taunting penalty. But let's say Puka Nakua is taunting like crazy. And then a linebacker hits him over the middle and knocks him out of the game. And a linebacker starts fake digging a grave for him. Does the two thumbs down or the step over? That's a taunt off I want to watch. Yeah, no, I like that. That's a good point.

29:26Right.

29:26PFT Commenter:You always have the risk of getting taunted on after you've taunted on someone else. I also think kickers should be allowed to taunt. Yeah. Because then you can just jack up a kicker. Yeah, right. Yeah. Then you fuck up a kicker. Knock the fuck out of a kicker. Right. I just want the animosity going up and up and up. I do want to know what was the content of those text messages. Why is the NFL finding big doms$75 ,000? It makes no sense Something stinks here Pablo Torre Find out Pablo This is an APB All Pablo bulletin All Pablos out there Get those texts Also how much of his body was in the coaching box I don't think it's feet Was the majority of his weight out of the coaching box Because then I would say that it doesn't count Was the phone out of the coaching box That's where they should judge it by Pablo should get the text messages too because I would love to know what he was like.

30:18Yeah. What he was actually talking about. Yeah. He's probably ordering food for the guys. Yeah. I think it should be like a three-second in the lane in college basketball. You just got to get one foot out and then you can go back in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, Max. Truth serum, though. Would you want to know what was in the context of Big Dom's texts? Not publicly. Yeah. I would like to know privately and keep that close to the chest, but I wouldn't want it to come out publicly now. Omerta. Yeah. I mean, that's Big Dom's business and not the media's.

30:49PFT Commenter:PFT asked a question. I would like to play this game with you, Max. When are the Eagles going to lose their first game? Probably next week to the Bucs. We lose the Bucs every time. So they play the Bucs, then the Broncos at home, then the Giants, Vikings, Giants. Probably somewhere in the Packers-Lions range. I don't know, man. The Eagles are really fucking good. And it felt weird, though. I thought the Rams, this was like a perfect, like going into halftime, I was like, man, this is exactly what I thought. The Eagles can't be perfect all the time. You basically sell out for the run and make them pass, and they're a little more limited.

31:24PFT Commenter:And then the Eagles just proved me dead wrong, although should have covered, and passed all over the place. There is an issue with Lane Johnson being out because you can sell out to the run all you want if you're the Rams, which they attempted to do last year and still got steamrolled. But with Lane out, it's a different team. Yeah. I think he's fine. Okay. What happened? Neck. Lane Johnson says he had a stinger, and he expects that he will be back next week. Neck stinger. Okay. Yeah. It's no big deal. That's one of those terms that we use. Like, oh, it's just a neck stinger. He'll be fine. And if you actually research what it is, there's a nerve inside of his neck that's fucked up.

31:59And it's another injury that's way scarier once you read about it than just saying, oh, he's just got neck stinger. Yeah. No big deal.

32:05PFT Commenter:Well, we were saying last week, now that it's football season, we need to just say stinger. I think everyone on this podcast right now is suffering. I have a stomach stinger. diarrhea we all have stomach stinger we got asshole stinger yeah it's like not a big deal i'll be back out in a play i just got a stomach stinger right now everyone gets hurt this time of year yeah right exactly everyone's got something hank i had a brain stinger on saturday morning i was hung over as fuck oh that's not good brain stinger i have a question to ask yeah can we just all admit that when jalen hurts needs to throw the ball he can throw the ball can we stop with this narrative that he can't pass he looked great today he looked great today but like how many times You're asking me to stop with a narrative.

32:43I've never started.

32:44PFT Commenter:Well, you're asking me to stop with a narrative that bothers you, and I enjoy watching you get bothered. You guys just weren't going to talk about it. Well, no, but you understand the pickle I'm in. Yeah. You want me to stop doing something that could irritate you? No, I'm not going to do that. But tomorrow, all of the anti-Jalen Hurts, Jalen Hurts can't throw the football, Jalen Hurts can't do this. how can you watch that second half when you needed him to do something to win a football game and he did exactly that alright deal he's such a bad winner I know he is he was bouncing around before we came in he's like the vibes are so good but it's also like he needs to learn to just embrace the fact that people are like looking for reasons to get mad at Jalen Hurts even though it's like they just won a Super Bowl he is a Super Bowl winning quarterback Super Bowl winning quarterback.

33:39And he's a great quarterback. I was like, yes, people are going to try and pick you apart, but you can't let it bother you. He out-dueled Patrick Mahomes twice in Super Bowls, beat the fuck out of him this most recent time, hasn't lost a game where he's started and finished since what? How many games? 19 games? 17. And he's very clearly an awesome quarterback, and Max wins the game. He's like, will you guys please like Jalen Hurts now? Well, here's the thing.

34:00PFT Commenter:Come on. I love the city of Philadelphia. Is he a system quarterback? Who knows? I think the city of Philadelphia produces some of the funniest people, obviously diehard, diehard fans. But you know when Philadelphians say, like, no one likes us, we don't care? It's just the opposite. Max cares. No one likes them, and they do care. Please like my team. Which is fine. Because I understand Jalen Hurts gets shit on, and he wants people to come correct about him. What I was going to say with Max no headphones on, Jalen Hurts is a really fucking good quarterback. He's a really good quarterback. He's very good.

34:33PFT Commenter:And when he does have to throw, he's really good at throwing. And I don't know why they don't throw it more. He's the exact kind of guy that I would want leading my team. The dude is a winner. Everywhere he's been, he's won. When he got benched, he was still a winner at Alabama. Went to Oklahoma, still won football games. The dude's a fucking monster. You're wrong about one thing, though, Big Cat. I think Philly, they are, no one likes us, we don't care. Max has just gotten soft since he's moved out of Philly. Oh. And he's started to care too much. Got it. It's the Midwest stuff. Yeah, yeah. But he's got pens in his ears right now.

35:01PFT Commenter:So either way, we agree. Honestly, really impressive. We agree that Jalen Hurts is really fucking good. Yeah, he's really good. Okay, Max, come back. I wish he was in Philly. So Jalen Hurts had 226 yards, which is like double what he's had all this year in the first two games. It's crazy because he has stunk. Yeah. He has been dog shit until today. Okay, he had a great second half today. Let's be clear. He did. He played one half of football. Great second half. maybe the half of the week. I'd like to see him put it together for a full game. It would be nice. It would be nice. At some point. Okay.

35:37PFT Commenter:You'll have fun listening back to that, Max. Are things okay with him and A.J. Brown? That's a good question. Oh, wait a minute. Did you see this punch that Jordan Mailata gave to A.J. Brown? Yeah, I did. He might be injured. He might be injured. Could you imagine taking this punch? No. If A.J. Brown reacted the way that he reacted, I really would be dead. I really would be dead. Yeah, that's what killed Houdini right there. Yeah. It's seriously insane. You can't do that to someone. You cannot do that to someone. Jordan Vallada weighs 400 pounds of pure muscle. Yeah. That is a really, really mean thing to do.

36:14And he probably said something hilarious with his Kiwi accent.

36:17PFT Commenter:He's like, there you go, cunt. Yeah. Have one. Have one. All right. Bucks 29, Jets 27. So this was the other crazy game. We have one more crazy game we're going to talk about. The Bucs play the funnest games possible. They have played three games this season, all three Baker Mayfield game-winning drives. It was even – remember we used to say about the Seahawks, how the Seahawks would just play the wildest games? The Bucs were dominating this game. And then in the fourth quarter, we're like, you know what? This isn't fun. We've got to make sure that everyone gets their money's worth, and we're going to let the Jets back into this and just have the craziest shit happen to end the game.

36:57PFT Commenter:and the crazy shit did happen because Tyra, sorry, Tarad had two touchdown drives in the fourth quarter. And then to go from six, up six to up nine, the Bucs get a kick blocked, return for a touchdown, all-time worst camera angle on a play. They just stop showing the guy return it. And then Aaron Glenn is dancing up the sideline, feels like the Jets are going to get their first win. oh yeah Baker still had time and drives him for a game-winning field goal so that Aaron Glenn celebration was hilarious his dance that he did and that people are going to remember that moment more than they remember anything else from this game yep and I predict that in like late December maybe into the start of next year people are going to look back at this game and they'll just assume that the Jets won because all they remember is Aaron Glenn freaking out on the sidelines which he should have I mean that was an awesome thing that happened and they came close the Bucs they just know they're great in close games because yeah they have baker mayfield and they got bucky irving and also baker is elite i'd say he's probably the best quarterback in the nfl at like scouring uh like depth charts and coaching staffs for any team that he's about to play and find somebody that in his mind has wronged him at some point in his career yes and then after the game he will talk about that yes but all week i think he spends as much time just looking at guys that he might hate on the other team as he does watching film about the other team because after the game he's on the podium and he goes, yeah, their defensive coordinator was the one that cut me in Carolina.

38:25A lot of stuff was personal today. Hassan Reddick, former Jet, a lot of people. This was Hassan Reddick getting revenge against the Jets for what? Remind me again. For him not showing up and holding out even though he was under contract. Okay, so for him not getting a contract extension for the Jets. Got it. That's what he was pissed off about. That's what Baker's mad about. He had never played for the Jets.

38:51PFT Commenter:On behalf of – Baker probably just walks around in the locker room before a game. He's like, you got any beef with them? Yeah. I'd just like to know. He probably has a box, like a suggestion box in the locker room. Like, put all your hatred in this box so that I can read it and get mad for you. Yeah. But, Memes, can I give you a little bit of a silver lining? It's like a weird stat for the Jets. Yeah. Did you know that the Jets are tied with their opponents in touchdowns? they've scored exactly as many touchdowns as their opponents have this year. That's pretty cool. That is cool. Yeah. That's really cool.

39:27I mean, there's other stuff that's involved in football, like fuel goals, but at least you have that. And you don't have to fire Aaron Glenn, right? Yeah, don't have to fire Aaron Glenn.

39:36PFT Commenter:That was a non-compete for three quarters, including the Terod Taylor pick six to end the half was just so Jets. It was like, how? They played tough in the first half. and then he throws a pick six with like 45 seconds left for no reason. But then they woke up and they played hard in the fourth quarter. So where are you at overall? It sucked. That sucked because all you needed was one stop there to get your first win. But where are you at overall? Quarters one through three looked like a maybe one win team. The defense still absolutely got awful. Unfortunately, football season is over right now.

40:17Oh, you've ended it? Well, you're on three in statistical issues. Hockey started. Hockey did start. You got the Mets at least. Oh, that was mean. Max just shook his head like, don't say that. That was fucked up. That was really mean what you just did. They're going to make the playoffs, right?

40:33PFT Commenter:That was really mean. Really mean. I thought they were. I thought they were. No. I mean, they still might. They played the Nats today. The Nats stink. You guys have the - Yeah, the Nationals had a center fielder turning to prime Jim Evans out of nowhere. You guys have... I shouldn't have done that. Yeah, you should have done that. I'm not leaving the studio alive. You have the Dolphins next week. Yeah, that'll be a loss. By the way, did you guys see, not to go ahead to week four, but our Monday night doubleheader next week? Let me just say this statement. There's four quarterbacks playing. Bo Nix is the best quarterback by a large margin in the four teams that are playing.

41:15All right, I have not looked at the schedule at all for next week, so let me just try to guess. Saints? By how – they just played Monday Night Football. I don't think they'd make them do two Monday Night Doubleheaders in the same, like, three weeks. So I'm going to go with – 49ers. Bo Nix by a large margin. Large margin. Large margin. Are the Bengals playing? The Bengals are playing.

41:37PFT Commenter:So it is Jake Browning. It is Tarod Taylor. It is Tua and Bo Nix. Wow. Yeah. someone's got to play well out of that. Yeah. The odds have to be something good happens. I think the Jets are the backup game. Like the Joe Bucks on the Bengals. Yeah, but we're going to watch both. Are they staggering them, or are they going one right after the other like they did last week? No, it's just a staggered start. It's not like a 6.15 or 7.15. So one of the games should be competitive. Yeah. But you guys can win that game. you'll be favored. I basically go in any game. Whose line is it anyway? DraftKings Sportsbook.

42:22PFT Commenter:Jets, Dolphins at the Jets. At the Dolphins. Oh, at the Dolphins. Jets haven't won in Miami in 10 years. Dolphins look good on Thursday. Don't show it. Let me think. I'm going to say... Mini bye for the Finns. Dolphins minus one. Dolphins minus three. No, Dolphins minus, I'm going to say, three and a half. Two and a half. Two and a half. Okay. You got that one. I said one. Zach. Yes, sir. Like the Bucs. You're a Bucs fan. You have a great Bucs shirt on right now. So early on in the game, a lot of holding penalties, a lot of flags going up in the air. I was a little nerve-wracked on that. A lot of guys out on the offensive line, wasn't sure how today was going to go.

43:07The boys played good, solid defense. Bucky Irving, nice to watch. Baker Mayfield kind of did his thing. and Buka two catches one of the second catch that he ruled not a catch I think that was a catch he's showing good hands uh Mike Evans hamstring injury kind of worried about that but I'm seeing we might be able to get Tristan worst and Godwin back for week four was it a hamstring injury or

43:30PFT Commenter:was he celebrating no he was it was a hamstring he's hurt he went to the locker room I want to clear that up for Hank yeah yeah that's a good clear up uh Zach I got a stat about the Bucs here yes sir did you know that they have they had 100 rushing yards they allowed fewer than 100 rushing yards in 11 straight games. I was unaware of that, but that's very promising. That makes you feel good. It's the longest streak in NFL history. That's just that they've done that. That should just be the Vita Vey stat. Yeah. Abuka had six catches, by the way. He's awesome. You have a bona fide star in Abuka.

44:00PFT Commenter:Because, like, I think wide receivers are the position where if they, like, obviously a wide receiver can get good after drafting him. Like, it could take a year or two. but I think wide receivers have the most pop of any position where you can right away know that guy's a stud. Do you know what I mean? Has there been a guy that's lit up the league in his rookie year and then completely fallen off afterwards at wide receiver? Currently, maybe Brian Thomas. Yeah, it's a little early. It's a little early. I'm still buying stock of him. Eyeballs. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, Abuka's awesome. He's awesome.

44:34He is. Every time Mike Evans talks about him, I get a little nervous because he almost refers to passing of the torch as if he's going to retire next year. But if there's a guy to pass it to, he's definitely the one.

44:45PFT Commenter:Yeah. And I will say for the Bucs, the big thing with the Bucs is they're 3-0. Baker's a dog. They have to figure out a way to get healthy and stop having injuries because the Bucs today had none of their starting five offensive linemen playing their actual position. So they all were interchangeable because they've had so many injuries. It will hopefully get a little bit better when, what's his name, Godeke comes back and also when Tristan Wirfs comes back. But they got to get that figured out. They got to get some guys healthy. Mike Evans, obviously, that sucks. Yeah. But the Bucs are good. Did you hear Todd Bowles after the game?

45:22Yeah. Got jokes? Yeah. Todd Bowles got jokes. He said, they asked him what was Payne Durham saying to him after they won the game. Because I guess they gave each other a hug. And he said, me and Payne Durham have a relationship not many people know about. We're secret lovers. Oh. What is that? What's going on in Tampa? I don't know. It's not a secret anymore. If I was Payne Durham, I'd be upset about this.

45:46PFT Commenter:Yeah, that is a joke. With your secret levels. He also said when he was asked about the Jets blocking the field goal for a touchdown, he said his response in the moment was, you've got to be fucking shitting me. That's great. Yeah. That is great. Todd Bowles. Showing a little personality. I like that. I think it has something to do with him having the game management coach. Yeah. So that he doesn't have to, like, that would take Todd Bowles' brain a good two hours to come down from where it got, it cooled off like a CPU. For a second there because you, yeah. What? I thought you said game management coach.

46:17PFT Commenter:Game management. Did he? Might have. Well, I was talking about, well, him and Peter are secret lovers. I think that was with the same line of thinking right there. Game management. He's got a game management coach. But you know what I'm saying? Like with the guy that's telling him the clock scenario. Yeah. And what to do. Game management. I think his brain would still be like working too hard after a game trying to figure out the scenarios. Yeah. Now he's like cutting loose a little bit after the game because he got all this creative mental energy. Yeah. Memes. Can I give you Aaron Glenn's postgame comment?

46:47PFT Commenter:Let her out. He said, the one thing I don't do, which I understand New York media tries to do, is the negative parts of it. I'm not going to be that way. I'm going to let you guys deal with that. We're going to look at the things we did well. So, memes, that is your coach. Give us something you did well And let's not do negatives They came back Okay Huge Huge That's all they did well The defense is terrible But to come back you have to do something well

47:19Yeah that's true So what was that So the Bucks stopped blitzing And they were just playing drop coverage And Tyrod was just being able to pick them apart That was good. But the defense didn't do anything well. The defensive line wasn't that bad, but the secondary is just absolutely gross.

47:38PFT Commenter:Yeah. So you said going into this weekend that if they allowed 28 points, you wanted Aaron Glenn fired. But the defense didn't allow 28 points. No, Tyra Taylor picked six. Yeah. Yeah. So the defense played better. Played better, but still very bad. All right. Well, I mean, these are positives. You know what? This might be a Wednesday check-in on me. Okay. I just saw his coach say that, so I was like, and I agree, because it's very hard to be positive after a loss on Sunday. That happens on Wednesday and Thursday and Friday. You get back. Your brain gets back. The Bucky Irving play was so bad. Which one?

48:13The one where he. All seven of them? Oh, yeah.

48:17PFT Commenter:That one was bad. I actually liked it. That was in the first half. That made me nervous about the must-compete, because in the moment I said it looked like those videos when a professional soccer player plays against like 100 5-year-old Asian kids and they're all in a group running around like a pack of fish and they can't catch up to them. That's what the Jets look like on defense. Now, yeah, it does look like they're playing on different surfaces from Bucky Irving, who's able to move and change directions and the Jets, they just can't stop. Yeah. All right, well, Bucs 3-0, Jets 0-3. I think the Jets, they pass the must-compete.

49:01PFT Commenter:They pass the must-compete. I also like the Bucs that they brought in Desmond Watson for a workout. Yeah. But they didn't sign him. They just brought him in. They're like, hey, you should probably work out today. Do you think there's a chance they brought him in because when he was at camp, he had walked on the same portion of the grass and killed the grass, so we've got to bring you back to even it out? Do your trail. Yeah. The trail's growing in a little bit. Come back and just even this whole practice field out. I think they're just having workouts. That was mean. I think they're just having like 7 a.m.

49:31workouts. They're like, hey, do you want to join a class? Yeah. We're doing Tybo.

49:35PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It was probably like the coaches. It's an orange theory. Yeah, all the coaches are like, hey, we're going to stay in shape this season too, guys. We're going to do some Pilates before practice. Everybody get in early. Yeah, we'll call Desmond. I'm rooting for him to make a roster, and I would love to see him play next week against the Eagles for the tush push, because that would be awesome. Him next to Vita Veya has a lot of weight in that front line. A lot of weight to push. I don't know if you're a tush push in that. Yeah. Okay. Sorry, last thing on the Jets. Their first three opponents combined 8-1, so that's like the only – There we go.

50:08PFT Commenter:That's the only actual positive. And then you play the Dolphins. Who do you have after the Dolphins? Dolphins, Cowboys, Broncos in London. Okay. And the Panthers, I believe. It does get easier, but, I mean, it's just an uphill battle. You just, the way week one and three went, it's like, just get one of those wins. Be one and two. Yeah. Fields next week? Maybe. He's got to do the whole protocol now? Terod was actually kind of elusive in the pocket today. He was moving around. He wasn't that bad, but when they were just strictly blitzing, he couldn't do anything. Yeah. uh okay next up the uh other game that was incredible ending browns 13 packers 10 this was this was crazy this was shocking because it was a really like you know it's a defensive battle the browns defense is legit as legit could be mason graham is awesome uh adding him to that defensive line has been incredible for the browns defense and what they're able to do to other teams so here's here's a couple stats just to talk about the browns defense real quick because i they they won the game joe flacco had a nice drive at the end but it was the browns defense that carried the day uh so far the browns defense has held uh chase brown to 21 carries 43 yards derrick henry 11 carries 23 yards josh jacobs 16 carries 30 yards those are some pretty good running backs and they've completely stonewalled them the browns defense kept them in this game i was looking at it the browns offense is not good not explosive they had 3.9 yards per play which is not good but they were in the game because the browns defense held the packers to 3.8 yards per play yes so this is actually the first game that the browns have not outgained their opponent yeah you can believe that and it's their first win they're 0-2 when outgaining their opponent they're 1-0 when their opponent outgains them kind of crazy to think about they also got fucked they got fucked on that fumble that josh jacob yes it ended up being kind of like ball don't lie yep but the the browns very clearly got screwed like there was a 15 minute span where i saw three calls i'm trying to remember the other two but there were three calls that were very clearly like should have been overturned should have gone a different way and for whatever reason the replay review did not work on them the browns got fucked on that one uh but their defense is elite yes like one of the best defenses in the entire league gonna keep them in every single game i know it didn't obviously last week against the ravens but that game again was closer than the final score because of some of the special team stuff in turnovers and mason graham is probably the defensive rookie of the year right now i would say so he's awesome he's got a 43 pass rush win rate against the pack that sounds really high average for a defensive tackle is nine percent yeah for a defensive tackle so 43 to nine percent and they've got miles garrett yeah and they had let's give credit where credit's due joe flacco maybe the operation of the week?

53:06Yeah. Was that the operation of the week?

53:08PFT Commenter:It was the operation of the week. An awesome operation at the end of the game where they had the ball in the middle of the field. The center ran up, spotted the ball for the ref who came in, just booped the end of it. They got the snap off. They spiked it in time for the field goal where Smith went out there and made it. That was the operation of the week. Incredible. Incredible job. That's a veteran move by Joe. And shout out Andre Schmidt. He gets, you know, he was custom week one. won this game with a 55-yard field goal. Really cool to see him bounce back like that. And the Browns get their first win.

53:40PFT Commenter:And it was – I know that it doesn't – it's crazy to say this, but that was a shocking comeback because the Browns were down 10 under four minutes. And with this Browns offense, that feels like 100. And they're able to win the game in regulation, not in overtime, in regulation, a lot because of the blocked field goal and also because Jordan Love threw a terrible interception. Yeah, so they got their first two turnovers of the year in the last four minutes of the game. Yeah. Pretty crazy, and one of the game. Good for the Browns. I like the neon brown uniforms, too. All right, so I like them, but they also make some of the guys look a little fat.

54:20Njoku looked maybe 50 pounds heavier than he looks.

54:24PFT Commenter:That's fine. That's a price you pay. I know that Njoku's shredded. Yeah. But in that jersey, he looked fat. Yeah. The neon brown, it's got its gives and takes. Yeah. I thought it would. For the Browns, it's awesome. Yeah. Let me read you guys a quote real quick. I'll just say the quote and then I'll tell you who it's from. I think we can go undefeated, pound for pound. I look at these teams, I don't really see who's better than us, honestly.

54:52Micah Parsons.

54:53PFT Commenter:That was left tackle Rasheed Walker. Okay. And then the Browns defense did what they did to the Packers. Well, teams are now 0-2 the week after they play the Commanders. Oh, wow. There's a little stat everyone's talking about. That's a huge stat. Because they get beat up so bad. Yeah. Yeah. Physicality. I'd like that to continue. The Bears play the Raiders next week. That's right. So let's, yeah. A little tip to us. So, and then the Bills should beat the Falcons in week five. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Also, Quinshawn Judkins looks pretty good. Yeah, Quinshawn. He's definitely – he's RB1. Yeah. RB1 for sure.

55:29Did Toyota Thon come early this year? I don't know. For Jordan Love? Oh, maybe. I don't know.

55:36PFT Commenter:It might have. He didn't look great. No, I mean, I'm not going to – I'm going to be measured in the fact that the Browns' defense, I think, is really fucking good. But, yeah, no, that interception was bad. I don't know if he didn't see the guy or if there was a route run wrong, but that changed the game because it did feel like the Browns were had no chance. And then that happened. And yeah, they just hung around, hung around, hung around until they could pounce on them. And the Packers get their first loss. And I still think the Packers are really, really good. There was a video this week of Jaden Reed after he had a surgery and he was still under the anesthesia coming out of it.

56:15And he was just looking at his, he went live on his phone from the hospital bed as he was still drugged up. And all he was talking about how, how the Packers, their goal is to win the Super Bowl. Yeah. He's like, this is awesome. Our team's so good. We're going to win this. That's a team that's locked in right there. Yeah. When it's subconscious, when you can be talking about anything else, where am I would be a natural question to ask. He's just like, yeah, we're going to win the Super Bowl this year.

56:35PFT Commenter:Listen, I don't know how the Packers don't win the Super Bowl unless the Browns are in it because the Browns just beat them as eight-and-a-half-point underdogs. Mm-hmm. NFL makes no sense game of the week. Yeah. It's Survivor League busted. Everyone's Survivor. Mm-hmm. busted they definitely a lot of people probably took the packers so good for the browns i'm happy for the brown because they like this deep they have an identity i don't know what the future is going to hold for joe flacco for the rest of the year but like they will be in most games because of this defense and how nasty they are and you saw today where it's like that's a if you're if you're averaging i think they went they went four for 13 on third down and like i said they averaged 3.9 yards per play that's tough to win a game like that unless you have an elite elite defense and that's what they showed today that they do yeah so uh and yeah man it's just a shame the packers i thought they were going to go undefeated i thought they were going to beat everyone and they just couldn't beat the browns i am kind of holding back a little bit because the bears do have to play the browns and that defense what if the but still that that pick was bad the packers were like the saints from last year oh we were all looking for the colts to be the saints from last year and the Colts were still a wagon.

57:49PFT Commenter:It was actually the Packers. Packers. Man, that would be a shame. That would be a damn shame. That would be a real shame. A real, real shame. Does it make you feel are we doing transitive property at all? No, no. I was thinking about doing the transitive property for this game and thinking to myself, wow, the Commanders might really, really suck because we got the shit kicked out of us by the Packers and they just lost the Browns. But then I just spin-zoned it into being like, wait, we played them last week. That's probably why they're so banged up and that's why they lost the browns so i thought that was a good way to get over it that's smart uh i think also there was maybe some booze for joe flacco which i mean listen he can handle it and also their offense was bad for a really long time they're not they're saying beautiful ball yeah beautiful operation they didn't see the opera they weren't boom the operation incredible operation incredible operation 10 points in 37 seconds the browns watch out do you think dylan gabriel gets that operation off no chance shador gets that operation no chance that's joe flacco yep something about flacco bailey zappy might get that operation off and then throw a pick deshaun watson might get that operation off i'm just pumped for andre schmidt because that is yeah he misses that and it's curtains for him yeah probably for his career that think about how much pressure is on that kick for him specifically where it's like he misses that kick and it wasn't an easy kick but in it you know in addition to week one the browns probably cut him and everyone's like well he's not good and now he's a hero and they get their first win and i feel like these just like having that one win where it's like hey you can still fight and uh yeah they they they have a tough schedule but it doesn't matter they're gonna be in some games i'm happy for the browns yeah i am too the dog pound also uh i found out my assistant Dom for the first time in four years didn't wear his he has a gigantic Browns necklace that's just a dog bone didn't wear it today he's got to bury it got to be gone forever can't ever wear it again I agree you guys agree I agree yeah this is also just so funny because it's a gigantic necklace and it's it no like it's just a ridiculous look but that's also why you got to love Browns fans They'll just dress up like dogs and be like, you know, you're the one with the problem.

1:00:08PFT Commenter:Why don't you have your dog face on? So the Browns, they were first in run defense going into this game. I'm sure they're still first in run defense. Gotta be. They were third in pass defense overall. They're still probably top five in that. Yep. First in total defense. Yep. Probably still that. Yep. Nasty. Really good. Nasty, nasty team. If they had a quarterback that just didn't turn the ball over, it was a game manager, like Flacco, they could be real force. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, before we get to the next game, game time. The NFL is back. Tailgates, PAX stands. Hank, you want to look up Monday Night Football?

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1:03:01PFT Commenter:I thought the defense played a lot better. I thought Drake May took a lot of hits. There was two pretty solid shots to the head. One of them was right before the interception he threw in the end zone. He got concussed. The ball was tipped, but it literally went from replay of his head smashing into the ground, and then he threw an interception. I think there's a little bit of leeway there. Remadre Stevenson, I don't know how much leeway he gets. Probably not a lot. He fumbled twice. Yeah, twice. He fumbled a lot last year. And going back, I think, like six or seven games, that's his six or seven fumbles.

1:03:34PFT Commenter:You guys had – so the Patriots had five turnovers, four fumbles, two turnovers inside the Pittsburgh two-yard line. So twice you're basically giving up six points for a turnover. One was an interception in the end zone. The other was Ramondar Stevenson, like, basically six inches from the goal line, getting it punched out. This is a crazy stat. Last time the Patriots had four fumbles in a game. Lost four fumbles in a game. 1999. 1992 versus Bill Belichick's Cleveland Browns. Wow. Isn't that crazy? Interesting. Yeah, wild stat. But this game was – it was – and the Steelers – like, the fact the Steelers only won by seven with five turnovers like that, especially with two on the goal line, I don't think the Steelers are very good.

1:04:26PFT Commenter:The Patriots should be kicking themselves because they should have won this game. I was looking at it. This game is summed up, if you miss this game, by the way the third quarter started. So I'm going to read you the drives to start the third quarter. This is the first eight minutes of the third quarter. Pittsburgh started with the ball. Three plays, zero yards, interception. Patriots get the ball. Two plays, 10 yards, fumble. Steelers get the ball. Three plays, minus two yards, punt. Patriots get the ball. Three plays, 11 yards, fumble. Steelers get the ball. Three plays, three yards, punt. So they were...

1:05:03PFT Commenter:Field position. There were a total of five drives to start the third quarter, three turnovers, two punts, not a single first down, and it felt like that. It was just like both offenses – the Patriots were able to move the ball, then they would just fumble, and the Steelers weren't able to move the ball, they would just get the fumble. Yeah, and then the last play of the game – Yeah, DeMario Douglas. Fourth and one, caught the ball basically on the line to gain and then took two steps backwards, got tackled. He ran away from the first down. It was nuts. And it was a freeze frame situation where, you know, the classic Mitch Trubisky picture where it's like if you look at the freeze frame, it looks bad.

1:05:47PFT Commenter:The freeze frame of where he caught the ball, there's no defenders in sight or within reach of him in that freeze frame. It's like he didn't get a first down here. His momentum at the time was awesome. It wasn't as bad. Yeah, it wasn't as bad in real time. But even Drake May after the game said, like, I got to do a better job telling my teammates what we need to do. It's like, tomorrow Douglas should just know I need to get a yard. Good answer by Drake May. Yeah. I should do a better job on me. I need to do a better job telling my wide receivers to get a first down when it's fourth down, and I'm throwing them the ball.

1:06:20That's my fault, guys.

1:06:22PFT Commenter:I mean, Drake May easily outplayed Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. Aaron Rodgers is old. I don't know what to say. I feel like the Steelers are just the same team as last year and the year before and the year before that, where their offense just doesn't have any pop. Yeah, the offense. A little more pop. It was not good today. A little better. I would take Rodgy over Russie, yeah. Yes, I would agree to that. I don't know. He doesn't throw deep. They're taking away the deep ball. Russie does throw deep. He's not good. He does. Yeah, but he throws it so high. I agree. When Russie throws deep, the ball does not hit the ground.

1:06:56Fact or fiction? fact yeah fact fact uh yeah he's not like letting it rip or anything but i think he's a major upgrade over over russ wilson from last year i just feel like when you close your eyes and you

1:07:09PFT Commenter:think about this pittsburgh steelers offense in what's been like the last four or five years i what what play comes to mind uh there's a couple there's the like two yard gain from naji there's the like tight end out route that's that you run like three yards downfield then catch it and go out of bounds for three yards yeah um and then you do a variation of that with kind of like a screen pass to george pickens who then catches it and runs out of bounds is that what i was gonna say is when i think of like the steelers offense and it might get better but i just think of uh a check down to a running back where he catches the ball behind the line of scrimmage and there's three defenders basically running at him all at the same time for a gain of one yeah that sounds right too that's that's a staple of theirs yeah i had an idea today for a rule change.

1:07:55I think that any pass that's thrown behind the line of scrimmage should count as a fumble if it hits the ground. I like that. I'm not talking about where the quarterback is, obviously.

1:08:05PFT Commenter:You're not talking about a Mahomes. But where the ball's going, if it's going to a running back that's two yards in the backfield, if that hits the ground, treat it as a fumble. That'd be awesome. Yeah. Everyone would just be diving on balls all the time. Yeah, it would rock. But yeah, Hank, you're right. Stevenson, doghouse. He's in variable's doghouse. Yeah, because Drake may played good enough to win the game and your defense played good enough to win the game you just gave the ball up five times and two times yeah yeah two of them going in yeah uh and yeah i don't know i i think i mean the steelers defense played a little bit better but did they because it was a lot of the so the the punch there was a good punch out on ramander sievenson on the fumble uh going in so that that's defense but like you can't you can't expect to get five takeaways in a game because it felt like the Patriots moved the ball and then the takeaways happened.

1:08:53PFT Commenter:So I don't know if the Steelers improved defensively or they were just able to be opportunistic with the ball. But don't break. That's what Steel does. Right. But you need to also investigate building seven. Yeah. Ben, don't break, but also make sure you get the fumbles when they're on the goal line. Yeah, that's true. I mean, look at the Browns. They didn't have a single turnover in the first two weeks. They were great at defense. They lost those two games. Steelers bad defensively today had a lot of forced turnovers yep won the game yeah I I guess it just comes down to like if the Steelers can get back to the defense that they've had in the past I do think this is going to be a decent team if it's the defense we saw through the first two weeks and maybe a little bit of today when the ball gets moved on them it's going to be tough because I don't know how much pop their offense has yeah but they're two and one so who cares now do you feel like aaron rogers is going to pull the jail and hurts and be like we don't deserve to celebrate this because we played like shit or is he going to be like the perspective thing of i've been in this league a long time it's hard to win celebrate every win boys i would say celebrate every win also aaron rogers uh passed brett farb for fourth most passing touchdowns in the nfl history so it's 509 okay that's a lot of that's a lot of touchdowns good for him and they did they did get a lot of pressure uh on drake may which i guess that would be the the big takeaway is maybe the steelers pass rushes back and that's if they can get that back then they will be just fine yeah hank uh what are you guys going to do at running back is this travion time variable said we need remandre i don't know if he was just saying that i think we'll probably we'll see more travion so he might not be in the doghouse then i don't know if that was just coach speak of i don't know no because i feel like guys guys like rabel and belichick too if they've got if a guy is in their doghouse he's they're not shy about letting people know hey i've got a doghouse this guy's in it yeah I think we'll see more Travion.

1:10:43PFT Commenter:Yeah. Because I think he might be good. And shout out Derek Harmon making his NFL debut. That is probably why the Steelers defense played the best game they had of the season. He had a sack. T.J. Watt had two sacks. Their pass rush got picked up by him. That was their first-round pick from Oregon. So it feels like that might be the boost they needed. What are you going to say? Like, Travion had two and a half yards of carry. He had 11 carries for 28 yards. today, so it's not like he was... I didn't say I thought he was good. I said I think he's going to be good. Stats max. I think he's a good player.

1:11:18Ramondre had a bad game, but Henderson also had a bad game. Yeah, but I'm saying which one is a rookie? Yeah, no, I agree. I don't necessarily mean that just because he's a rookie, he's a good player. I agree with that. But I think he's good. So we agree. Yeah, we agree. I think he will be good. Do you think he's a bad player? Travion did not fumble. No, I don't think...

1:11:40PFT Commenter:were the other two fumbles. I'm just not, I'm saying it's not like Travion Henderson's running away with this job. Like, according to film guys, Travion's lost out there. He can't pass a block. Is what the take is. That makes sense. He can't pass a block. With the ball in his hand, dynamic. Yes. Maybe. Maybe, but also, what were the stats? 11 carries, 28 yards. That's not true. He's also receiving back. Yeah, he did catch three balls for 19 yards. That's pretty good. Not really. 6.3 yards per reception. That's solid. That's good. Ramondre had three receptions for 38 yards. Fumbles. Well, Travion had three targets, and he caught all three for 100 % target catch rate.

1:12:22Ramondre also had three targets.

1:12:25PFT Commenter:And he caught all three for 38 yards. For 100%. Yeah, with a long of 23. No, I'm not saying that one's bad. It's just that it makes it harder to be like, oh, we have to push more Travion Henderson when Travion Henderson isn't running away with the job. Yeah, no, you're right, because I think he should be the more dynamic of the two running backs. Right. But he might be the one in the doghouse for not being able to block. Yeah. He is. Yeah. There we go. We came all the way around. That's why Vrabel's like, Vrabel's like, my doghouse isn't big enough for two of the guys. We need Ramond Rader. Yeah.

1:13:00PFT Commenter:We've got to get one of these guys out of the doghouse before the net. It's one in, one out. Yeah. Yeah, because I think Vrabel's doghouse usually has a kicker in there, but I'd say his doghouse and Belichick's are the worst doghouses to be in. Maybe Saban's doghouse. Maybe Mike Vick's doghouse. If we had to say right now, week three, and it's obviously way too early, do the Pittsburgh Steelers make the playoffs? Yes. I would say so, too. And I think they win a game. Yeah, you're on record as saying they're going to win a game. On record. On record, win a game. I would agree, though. I think there's a cliff that the AFC kind of falls off, and I feel like the Steelers will be above that cliff.

1:13:41PFT Commenter:Yeah. They have a good schedule. They have to go to Ireland, play the Vikings. They got Carson Wentz, Joe Flacco, Browning the next three games. Oh, okay. So that should help fix the defense a little. Wasn't there a defense again? They go through a mini-conlet after that, though. Wasn't the Steelers owner the ambassador to Ireland? Yeah, the Roonies. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. Okay, next game. We've got PFT, your game. Commanders, 41. Raiders, 24. Marcus Mariota. Is he the best backup in the NFL right now? I think so. Played pretty well. I think he might be the best backup. Joe Milton. Joe Milton's a really good name anymore.

1:14:21Joe Milton's really good.

1:14:23PFT Commenter:It's basically Mariota or Wentz. Yeah. Why? Just hearing that. We'll get to Wentz. You know how I feel. We'll get to Wentz. Okay, there's two things in this world that give me goosebumps in a bad way when I hear them. One is when somebody says the name Carson Wentz when I'm not expecting it. And the second is when memes goes, PFT. Yeah. Because I know that means he's about to ask me to do an ad. You have no idea how mad you would be at memes if you know what he just said to these muted mics back here. Oh, please tell. What did he say? Please tell. Do it, PFT. I mean memes. I just said, I was just like, what if Marcus Mariota's best quarterback on the Washington Commanders roster?

1:14:59PFT Commenter:Oh, I like that. That's good. Are we ready to have a conversation? I don't think he is. We can have a conversation. I do not think he is. I think he is the best backup. I think you're going to have the conversation. Who put up the most points. I also think that we have maybe the best third-string quarterback in the NFL. Joe Johnson. Oh. Pretty good for a third-string quarterback. I don't know who that is. Oh, sorry. Josh Johnson. Yes. Josh Johnson. Yes. Joe Johnson, great hawk. Great hawk. Yeah, great hawk. No, Marcus played pretty well today. He had a bad fumble, but it was after a sweet run.

1:15:31And it seemed to me like the Raiders are just – they're not a great football team.

1:15:35PFT Commenter:Well, I was going to say that Mariota was – he did exactly what a backup needs to do. He was good. It wasn't like he – I think your defense was what the story was today because you guys absolutely harassed the fuck out of Geno and shut down Ashton Gentry. Ashton Gentry had 17 carries for 63 yards, but more than that, 11 of his 17 rushes he was hit at or behind the line of scrimmage yeah that's some good pressure yeah it was pretty good to see from a defensive line uh johnny newton had a couple big plays out there bobby wagner got two sacks he's old as fuck it should also be said that on bobby's two sacks like the raiders pass protection is very bad yeah really bad no geno's like he's in hell yeah he's in hell he's not getting out of hell and it was uh it it felt it was closer than it should have been after the first half because uh there were some costly turnovers and some just minor mistakes that the commanders were making the first half i felt i did not feel comfortable going into the second half even though we were winning i think 20 to 10 at halftime because there were these small things that kept happening where if you're playing a bad team that's the kind of games that you would lose to a bad team.

1:16:47Yeah. I think what I can say about the commanders is, no, I'm not thinking soupy, but I'm reaffirmed in my belief that they're a good team, but they're not a great team because good teams blow out teams that they should beat. Yes. And that's typically what happens with the commanders. Memes, did you want to start the conversation or you're giggling back there? Yeah, let's start it. Okay. You go first. Is Marcus Mariota the guy? I don't think so. Why? Because I think Jaden Daniels is better. What if he started that NFC Championship game? We'll never know. We'll never know. So I guess the answer is we'll never know.

1:17:24We'll never know. If Marcus Mariota is better. We'll never know.

1:17:26PFT Commenter:Add a third, bad goosebumps. Memes starting the conversation. Yeah, memes starting the conversation. Come on, memes. I'll give you another shot at it. Take a swing.

1:17:40I don't know.

1:17:41PFT Commenter:Okay. All right. I disagree. Good job. He did unlock Luke McCaffrey, which was nice Yeah, also Dan Quinn, all-time football guy Got concussed, bloody Yeah Javon Kinlaw, after the game, said he jumped up like it wasn't shit We're gonna ride for a motherfucker like that Yeah, I love that And Dan Quinn, after the game, handed out game balls And then Frankie Louvoo gave him the game ball back And Dan Quinn, the way that he looked at a football That man was on the moon Yeah But he might have gotten better at coaching after he got concussed I agree It's like it woke him up He's an old linebacker yeah likes contact his nose was bloody as fuck during the game that was awesome to see it was just it was a good game for the commanders mcnichols ran really well had that long touchdown run and uh and bill got in the end zone again which is cool to see bill bill bill bill also oh this was one of the other ones that replay screwed up terry mclaurin scored a touchdown yeah so bill should not have had the opportunity to score that touchdown because terry dove into the end zone his knee did not hit the ground they did expedite review and on expedite review They saw the first replay, which we all saw and thought to ourselves, oh, he's down at the one.

1:18:47PFT Commenter:Yeah. And then they showed the other angle and his knee was clearly not on the ground. So Terry got fucked on that deep ball. We also had Max Crosby, who I can we I know Max Crosby. I don't want to just trade people off of the Raiders, but I would like to see Max Crosby play in playoff football. And yeah, he levitated for a sack on Marcus Mariota where there was just guys all around him. and he's just like, I'm still going to get the quarterback. He was getting cut by Bill, who hit him in the quads, and then he just fell over him and grabbed Mariota and took him to the ground. Yeah. Unreal play.

1:19:21He's so good. Unreal play by Mack.

1:19:22PFT Commenter:And I feel bad. Like, Raiders are just – it's a work in progress. I also don't really understand Gino's quote after the game. He said, I believe in Raider Nation. I know we can get this thing headed in the right direction, and that's what I'm focused on. I can't wait to get back to work, solve these problems, and come out next week with a new enthusiasm. What does Raider Nation have to do with playing better football? I believe in Raider Nation. I think he's saying, please don't call for my job. Okay. But I think. He's like, shout out to fans. Yeah. Yeah. Who's the backup in Vegas? Is AOC still?

1:19:55PFT Commenter:I don't know. Did they. But he got hurt, right? Did they bring someone in? They did. Not Minshew? No. No. He brought someone in. Kenny Pickett. That's right. Pickett. Kenny Pickett. So they've got a pretty. He's got a pretty good insurance policy. I have a dumb rule I'd like to propose to the group. And this is maybe a rule that could be for every single play, but I want it specifically for kickoff returns and punt returns. So Jalen Lane had an incredible punt return. There was a flag thrown right at the beginning of it, and I was obviously in the gambling cave with PFT, and he celebrated but wasn't able to celebrate fully because he's like, Like, oh, it's a flag on a punt return.

1:20:40PFT Commenter:It's going to be on us. I think they need to have different colored flags for offense and defense. I like that rule proposal. I also, maybe they could do it like they do in soccer on an offsides call. So you don't throw the flag if it's against the defense on a return until somebody's tackled. But you got robbed of an electric punt return. I didn't enjoy the moment. Because you're like, oh, there's a flag. There's a 90 % chance it's going to be a hold because otherwise, why did he get so free? So, yeah, I don't know what they can do. Maybe there's a blue flag and a yellow flag. And it actually would be kind of sick if they did that for every single play so that you could just see the color and know right away that's on us or that's on them because that happens a lot where you'll get a big play downfield and there'll be a flag and you'll say, oh, shit, it's coming back.

1:21:26PFT Commenter:I'm like, oh, no, it's the other way. I like that idea a lot. Yeah. Because for the first – here's how my reaction went. He starts to break away. Then I say, this is coming back. Yeah, the flag was instant. Any good football fan says this is going to come back. Yep. And then you start to think about it and think about where the flag was thrown. You're like, well, maybe the gunner went out of bounds. Yeah. That could be against the kicking team. But, yeah, I was robbed of a moment of joy. Also, our special team today was awesome. Debo was electric in the return game. He had one for 69 yards. He had two for a total of 93 yards on kick returns.

1:21:58Not fat. Not fat. Looked great. Not fat. Luke McCaffrey's return was great. And then, obviously, Jalen Lane had the return for a touchdown. So good day at the office for the special teams.

1:22:07PFT Commenter:Well, Goodell, I know you're not Adam Silver, so you don't take advice from the fans, but let's just figure it out. Let's figure out a way to just make it. Maybe it's not different colored flags. Maybe it's just the ref, they do have mics, but they can just whisper offense or defense, and the graphic can show which side it's on. You can pop up the flag on each side because I just hate being – I watch you get robbed of a great punt return, of the enthusiasm of a great punt return. It was a great return. Shout out to Jalen Lane, the hokey, rookie. Yeah. You guys like that idea? You could even do pink flags for breast cancer.

1:22:41PFT had another good dumb idea rule today. What was that? That all passes behind the line of description. You already said that. Oh, fuck. Thanks for listening. Yep. Wow. It's called Part of My Take, sports podcast. I think you'd enjoy it. Yep. We talk about the Eagles a lot, say great things about Jalen Hurts. That was probably when I had my earplugs in. No, it was not. No, I think that was when I had my earplugs in. It was like five minutes ago. I think that was when I had my earplugs in. Is there a chance that you shoving two pins into your ears might have damaged your hearing? Definitely a possibility.

1:23:10PFT Commenter:Do you remember the Simpsons episode when they had the view from Otto, the dog, right? Otto was a bus driver. Oh, no. Santa's Little Helper? Santa's Little Helper. Sorry. Santa's Little Helper. And it was like what he sees. And it's just gibberish, gibberish, gibberish. And then it'd be like, sit. And he could understand sit. I imagine Max sits in the booth and is just gibberish, gibberish, gibberish, Jalen Hurts. And then he perks up. Yep. Gibberish, gibberish, gibberish, eagles. Gibberish, gibberish, no hitter. Yeah. Gibberish, gibberish, gibberish, meatballs. And then he's like, oh, that's a word I know.

1:23:43I thought I was pretty locked in today, too. There's days where I know my brain's not in it. This game should probably start to quiet the Tom Brady narrative. No. Disagree. Oh, because he prepped for Jaden Daniels. No. When he was doing the Redskins game, the Commanders game.

1:24:01PFT Commenter:No, no, no. Next week. He called the Bears game, and the Bears played the Raiders. The very next week. But he called the Commanders game week one. Right, but that's enough time where you could change it. This is the week. Okay. If the Bears lose to the Raiders, it will 100 % because there was something at play. Yep. I'm just getting myself ready. Because how else? I'm so excited for G.H. to come back. But Memes said you're fine. I think that we are fine and that Marcus Mariota is not bad. Yeah. I don't think he should be a starting quarterback anywhere, but I think if you're going to have Marcus Mariota as your backup, you're probably pretty happy with yourself.

1:24:39Yeah, he's good.

1:24:40PFT Commenter:Yep. He's a good backup. Okay. Jaguars 17, Texans 10. The Texans are in trouble. They're bad. CJ Stroud needs to play better. And if you're a Texans fan listening to this right now and you're like, how could you say that? Well, I didn't say that. C.J. Stroud actually said that. He said, I need to play better. Hard truths. Can we have the conversation? Hard discussion. That we were starting to have about five months ago, and then C.J. Stroud himself asked us to put a stop to this. Yep. Is C.J. Stroud hurt? Ooh, I don't know. Because remember, he was having shoulder problems. Yeah. And they said he's not having surgery, which is not what you want to hear unprompted going into a season.

1:25:25That's a good point. I actually forgot about that. Not having surgery. Yeah. If I wake up in the morning, I'm like, okay, I don't think I'm going to need surgery today. I'm probably not 100%.

1:25:33PFT Commenter:Yeah. Surgery just gets mentioned. Oh, this is a, oh, okay. Max just pulled up a stat. CJ Stroud, 17 games before he big bro'd Caleb Williams. 4 ,600 yards passing, 26 touchdowns, five interceptions, 18 games since that picture. 3 ,800 yards, so that's 800 less yards. 19 touchdowns so that's 7 touchdowns less and 15 interceptions that's 10 more interceptions I'm going to say it although I do consider myself a Stroud boy little bro ass I'm not going to go all the way to say little bro ass I do think his offensive line is bad but he needs to play better from what we saw his rookie year he's got to play to that standard he said it himself I'm not speaking out of turn he said I have to play better Yeah, he's been bad.

1:26:26Yeah, and I have no idea if he's hurt or not, but it seems like there's something that's fucked up about him.

1:26:32PFT Commenter:His last regular season game where he threw more than 250 yards was week 11 last year. That's a long time. Well, today he only got sacked twice. Yeah. So that's a much better week than he has had in weeks one and two. Yeah, and also credit to the Jags defense. They played a great game. Trevor Lawrence actually said after the game, he's like, they wanted to bully us, we're not going to get bullied. It did feel like one of those games, the Jaguars might be switching their identity a little bit because that is a game they do kind of get bullied at historically. I think they had lost 12 out of 14 to the Texans.

1:27:10PFT Commenter:The Texans would be the more physical team. The Jaguars had – it was that interception of C.J. Stroud and also the forced fumble, Tyson Campbell on Nico Collins. they kind of took it to the Texans defensively so credit to them they also here's here's how much better the the Jags defense is playing the Jags defense has three takeaways in each of their first three games which is nine takeaways total three times three equals nine no big deal I know math they had nine takeaways all of last year so they've already tied their amount of takeaways as of defense for their 18 games last year 17 games last year i'm going to take that stat i'm going to add two things to it okay they've got three takeaways and three straight games that's the first time that the jaguars have ever done that in the history of the jacksonville jaguars are we doing are we doing stat improv yes and yes that was good yes and they have more interceptions right now than they did for all of last year that's crazy so yeah that the jags defense is playing well and uh they they were they were good in this game and so the only thing i would say about the jags two and one uh easily could be three and oh easily could be three and oh uh if it weren't for that that bengals game where jake browning went the the length of the field what do we think about brian thomas jr are we buying stock because he had another game where he was kind of a no-show he did have a huge catch in the fourth quarter 46 yard catch which uh up until that point I think he had one catch for nine yards where we at I kind of want to buy stock where is his stock it's a complicated question because it's I feel like he's still got some value built into the stock from last year but it's low through three games because he's had some questionable uh moments where he doesn't look like he wants to catch the football drops like and again he's it's he's being judged against Brian Thomas you know last year where he was a stud wide receiver and and you know you got to make those type of plays uh i i am gonna buy stock in him though i think he's just maybe going through a little down spurt so if it's like if it's like game stop where it was like on the moon back in what 2021 20 whatever that was and it's dipped down since then but it's still higher than most other stocks i think i'm buying stock in his current season i think he's gonna he's gonna get better yeah as the season goes on he's still getting a lot of targets yeah i just don't know if he's going to be what he was last year yeah okay that makes sense i'm i'll predict uh 900 yards six touchdowns for brian thomas jr brian thomas 900 yards six touchdowns yeah what does he have so that feels right to me does he have a touchdown so far i think he has one zero hundred is that all three games added up because it's sometimes it takes he also has a rushing touch yes that is all three 115 yards yeah through three games okay yeah he's not been great no he's got he gets a lot of targets and he's i mean if you just look at uh he's got 25 targets on the season and he has seven catches that's a problem big problem that's a big problem uh okay jaguars by the way yeah i I, AFC South might be Jaguars and Colts.

1:30:33PFT Commenter:Are they on a collision course? I still like the Colts. I do too, but I'm just saying, like, those two teams, I mean, the Jaguars have some good tests coming up. The 49ers, Chiefs, and Seahawks and Rams are their next four. I feel like if they can go two and two in those, then we might have to be like, hey, the Jaguars are a legit threat. Can wide receivers have the yips? Yeah, for sure. So you can fix the yips. Yeah. I don't know if it's the Yips. I don't know what it is. I think he might have the Yips. Yeah. You can have the Yips for anything. Absolutely. This is Yips. Okay. Next game. This is when we get to blowoutville.

1:31:11PFT Commenter:We have three blowouts in the early slate. Panthers 30, Falcons 0. Michael Penix, yuck. Bad game. Bad game for Penix. I got a crazy... Kirk Cousins came in. I got a Michael Penix stat. Okay. Michael Pinnock has never won a game in which his defense has allowed more than seven points. Whoa. How's that true? 0-4 in the NFL. Oh, in the NFL. I was going to say, I was like, it's definitely not true. Yeah, in the NFL. Yeah, okay. All right. He is 2-0 when the Falcons hold the opponents to seven points or less. Small sample size. Small sample. But still, their two wins have come against, I think, six points for the Vikings.

1:31:52Yep. And then I think seven points for the Giants at the end of last year.

1:31:56PFT Commenter:He was just missing, guys. I was watching, and it wasn't good. And he had a bad pick six that kind of broke this game open. Yeah. I mean, credit to the Panthers, too. They played very good defense. It felt like it could be a dead team, but they got off the mat and absolutely pasted the Falcons. Also, remember all of our Panthers, what do you even call it? Like what were we doing with the numerology? The Panthers, they win the Super Bowl. They go to the Super Bowl. They go to the Super Bowl in years after Ohio State wins the national championship in college football and in years where they played the Jaguars in week one when it also coincides with years that J-Lo got a divorce.

1:32:44PFT Commenter:Okay. So here's another one. that was the biggest win for the Panthers since 2015 when they won the NFC championship how about that they beat the Falcons 38-0 that year how about that so yeah things are adding up uh also I am 100 % in on a curse that I just made up and it's got a very small sample size but the young way coos curse so Parker Romo went five for five on Sunday Night Football when young way coo was still on the roster the Falcons cut him Parker Romo goes over to yeah you got to put him back on the roster I agree don't even need him to kick just give him a job let him hang out that is the young way coup curse I'd say that the young way coup is a guy that just feels like a Falcon for forever right right so you fucked that up Parker Romo not that 30 goals would have changed the game Yeah.

1:33:34I credit Steve Smith for this win. Steve Smith, he went on the radio and he called Charlotte a weak-ass city. Oh. Says, all you do is you bitch and complain. You're fair weather fans. I said that way because I've been in the city for 25 years now. I've heard complaining about everything, no matter what the case is. he was talking about how they complained when we were 1-15. I'll never forget how people treated us in my rookie year when we were 1-15. I know some people aren't going to like to hear this, but if you're going to ride and die with your team, ride or die, that's probably the problem with this weak-ass city.

1:34:10Fairweather fans.

1:34:11PFT Commenter:Damn. So they got put on notice by Steve. They said, ice up, son. And then they did come through because Bryce Young mentioned it after the game that it was an electric atmosphere. Yeah. Max, I'd like to have a conversation, just the two of us, for a second. okay as larger men zach you can also be in this conversation if you like as larger men uh with breasts yep would you say that when another man comes and flicks your nipple or your breast it is one of the most maddening things that can be done it's literally the worst thing that you can do to a human right you want to punch the person yes okay uh now imagine if that happened but the person who did it was Steve Smith because that happened to me on Saturday at Utah.

1:34:58PFT Commenter:No way. Yeah. Well, he was saying hello to me, but he flipped my nipple and I was just like, you're Steve Smith. I'm not going to say shit.

1:35:06PFT Commenter:It was a girl has done it to me before. And that has really pissed me off. We talked for a little bit. He said he's going to try to come to the Chicago office, hang with us. Did he have hats? He asked about all you guys. He asked where my hat was. but the way when I first saw him, he was like, yo, what's up? And then gave me a flick of my nipple, and I was like, there's literally nothing I'm going to do because you're Steve Smith, and I am not. He flicked your nipple, and you just said, noted. Yeah, noted. I like that. Yeah, no, that's no good. That's no good. I said, Steve, you just busted my IUD.

1:35:38The Panthers took our advice, by the way. They deactivated Xavier Leggett. Oh. Because Bryce Young was so good throwing to receivers not named Xavier Leggett. Yeah. So he didn't even play on Sunday. And 30 points. Offensive explosion, even though the offense wasn't really statistically all that great. No, Bryce Young did his job. Did his job. He did his job. Their defense did their job. There were just a lot of mistakes by the Falcons today. Yeah, a lot of mistakes. Also, Michael Penix has not lost his job. Reemore said after the game, Kirk Cousins, yeah, we just put him in so that we didn't want anyone to get hurt.

1:36:12Oh, I wasn't even wondering. Yeah. That's interesting. But he did say that. He had to talk about that? He talked about that. But I wasn't wondering. He talked about it. Now I'm wondering. Because he knew people are going to have the conversation. Now I'm wondering. Are you wondering about Michael Penix's job, or are you wondering about whether we should have the conversation? I'm thinking we should have the conversation if he started the conversation.

1:36:35PFT Commenter:Okay, let's have the conversation. Memes. Michael Penix. What about him? Give us your take. Should we have the conversation? You're the quarterback guy. I like him at times. Okay. I think that's fair. That's a really fair response. I agree. The problem with a left-handed quarterback is when it goes bad, it looks so much worse. Interceptions from a left-handed quarterback look like they've never played the sport of football. Yeah. I also don't love their offensive coordinator based off of the quarterback documentary. Oh, okay. Go deeper. He's the pro football focus guy, right? I think so. I just remember there was one play that Kirk Cousins ran, and there's just too much going on.

1:37:18They just got to simplify the playbook for the young fella. Okay. Well, he's not that young. Oh, yeah, he's older. But he's still young in the league. You just got to simplify things.

1:37:30PFT Commenter:Huh. So you're out on Zach Robinson. Yeah, I do like Michael Penix. He throws sideline to sideline. He's just got to figure some things out. Okay. So that's actually – so no one freak out. It's going to be fine. Yeah, one game. Yeah, one game. Okay, PFT, you want to do a couple ads, and then we will get to the other two blowouts, then we'll do the afternoon games. Yep. We'll get back to the games in a second. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. We turn to some funny places for support, but not everyone is a therapist. Not everyone is the one. Find your right match with BetterHelp. BetterHelp does the initial matching work for you so you can focus on your therapy goals.

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1:39:40PFT Commenter:okay uh colts 41 titans 20 so bad news for colts fans they finally punted good news for colts fans they're a fucking wagon and it was the only punt they had and uh they are have one punt on the season fewest punts to start a season since 1940 and daniel jones continues to be awesome yeah they punted once and they thought that maybe there was a flag and it was gonna get called back and they wouldn't punt yeah because there was a flag on it uh it was just against indianapolis daniel jones is playing incredible football right now yeah it's unreal he's playing mistake free football i don't think he has a single turnover on the on the entire season it's first time that the colts have started 3-0 since 2009 they went to the super bowl that year and they just continue to dominate in terms of their running game today but also like jones is handling the offense the way that he should handle it.

1:40:35Jonathan Taylor was a beast today. Yeah, he's back. And I think we keep trying to figure out with Cam Ward, is he going to be a guy? I think in his best interest, we should start to reframe that as being like he might be a gunslinger. Yeah, and he also needs an offensive line. He needs the offensive line, but he also that's one way that we can just brush off the pick sixes and any of the bad plays across the body plays. He had another pick six today. He tried another across the body play today yep um i think we just need to say cam ward is he's a gunslinger yeah i feel bad for him

1:41:08PFT Commenter:because he's getting killed and yeah i like that gunslinger yeah gunslinger cam gunslinger uh some other just crazy cult stats because they they have now gone past the saints of last year because saints only did it for two games so i think the cults have more staying power they're just a good team uh today was the best offensive performance a team has had based on epa per drive of any team in any game this season. And the second best performance was the Colts week one. Yeah. So they have one and two. They also have 103 points in their first three games. No Colts team has ever done that. They had a quarterback named Peyton Manning who was pretty good at football.

1:41:50PFT Commenter:And Peyton Manning never did that. So just to put it in perspective. Also, here's the crazy one. Daniel Jones is the first player in Super Bowl era to start the season, first three games of the season with three-plus passing touchdowns, three-plus rushing touchdowns, and no turnovers. Daniel Jones is just good. He's just fucking good. No quarterback has ever done that. He's just good in the Super Bowl era. It's crazy. He's just good. And it seems like Shane Steichen is doing a good job of – maybe his offense just makes sense to him. Maybe he's just using him correctly. Yeah. Whatever it is, it's working.

1:42:26Maybe it's just the new owner. Maybe she was on the headset today. Yep. But they're 3-0 since Mr. Ursae passed away. It's been awesome to watch.

1:42:35PFT Commenter:The Colts are – and now we're going to find out because they played the Rams at the Rams. Rams coming off a loss. Rams are a very good team. Colts win that one. Whose line is it anyway? Don't show it yet. Colts at Rams. Colts at Rams. I think it's going to be Rams. Rams – Rams – What are you going to say? Rams minus – DraftKings Sportsbook. Rams minus – Oh. Six? Oh, I was going to say 3.5. 4.5. That's what it is? Yeah. All right, so I got that one. 1-1. But, yeah, the Colts are just good. They're averaging 34 points per game, 425 yards per game, which is absolutely incredible. They're just good.

1:43:15PFT Commenter:Yeah. They're just good. And Daniel Jones, good for him. I'm happy for him that he, like, good coaching matters in the NFL. And also, I mean, their defense is playing well. they just this is I actually I would like to to to hear and now say I have two teams I'd like to make an announcement about that I'm going to be done betting for the foreseeable future the Titans are one of them and the Saints are the other okay that makes I think I'm done with that I think I just can't do it anymore because this game Hank you took the Titans it was over right away immediately yeah not as fast as the Saints one which we'll get to but it was pretty much over right away Yeah.

1:43:54PFT Commenter:Yeah. And it's just the Colts are set up where Dana Jones is playing perfect football. And then in the second half, they just like, hey, here's Jonathan Taylor down your fucking face and deal with that. There wasn't anything that the Titans could do about it. They also are missing their best defensive player. They're missing some. Yeah, they're missing some pieces. Also, when you start out, you miss two field goals. Joey Sly was on the sidelines and he like sprinted to the sidelines and grabbed the Microsoft Surface. and started studying the Microsoft Surface. What do kickers look at on that tablet?

1:44:28Are they just on Instagram?

1:44:29PFT Commenter:No, I think he was just looking. He's like, oh, yeah, that is where the crossbars were. Or maybe he was like, I thought that was in, but I didn't see. Like when you hit a drive and you don't see. It's like face angle. Yeah, yeah. You don't see where your drive went and you're like, it felt like I connected really good. And you think maybe just up in the fairway. He was like, I thought that off my foot. It felt great. I didn't see where it went. And he's like, oh, yeah, it did. The refs called that right. It did miss by a long, long distance. Yeah, yeah. the Colts even said it Michael Pittman said before the game that the Titans looked kind of sluggish and that they didn't want to be there so not good Brian Callahan did have to address the calls for his firing by the fans that's usually the first sign not a great sign I also think unfortunately for Brian Callahan just the name Callahan like fire Callahan just kind of has a little pop to it it does you know what I mean you can just say that You're like, fire Callahan.

1:45:25PFT Commenter:It just does, and I like him, but it's just – the minute you have to address the calls for the firing, it's kind of like the Michael Penix thing where he's like, oh, yeah, he's still our quarterback. Yeah, I think the only – Max is our quarterback. When you say that, it's like, what? What did you say? The only move you can do if you're a head coach in that situation is to just be like, I'd be frustrated too. Yeah. I hear you. I get it. No one's more mad than me. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to take a long look in the mirror. because it starts with me yeah yeah it starts and ends with me that's what you say and i might like if i were a head coach i'd be like i'm gonna take a long look in the mirror because every time i get a second to myself i just quietly cry a little bit because this fucking sucks and being on three sucks and i'm really hurt because it's my dream job and i suck at it and it's all i ever wanted in my entire life and i worked my entire career to get to this point i finally got it and you guys are being really mean to me when you say that I should be fired and it's not nice because it's a tough economy.

1:46:25I don't know if I'm going to get another job. You're rooting for a man and his family to not have food on their table.

1:46:32PFT Commenter:I would get in front of the media and just be like, hey, listen, guys, let's try one week where everyone's positive, fans and media. Maybe I'll be better at my job if you're boosting me up. If that doesn't work, we can just go back. Yeah, we'll go right back to negative. Let's just try one week where you say nice things about me and maybe that will be what makes me a great coach. And they got the Texans. So maybe they win this game. Yeah, I would love to say that. I'd love to see a coach say that. Be like, hey, do you guys think about just being positive once? Like, it could help me. It could help my confidence.

1:47:02PFT Commenter:Maybe I'd call better plays if you're just nice to me during the week. Just try. Give it a shot. That's Aaron Glenn. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, he was – yeah, he did say the media is negative. He's like, the media is going to be negative. I'm not. I'm saying you should be like media can you try to be positive even though we're 0-3 got it yeah Trey Turner lie to me for a week and tell me I'm good at my job because like it's like seeing a shot go through the hoop once you see one go in oh I can do this I can hit this shot I can coach this team I would love to see a head coach though be more aggressive with the media like actively dig up dirt on the reporters that are saying bad things about him and then just like being The fake news is making you think I'm a bad football coach, but actually this guy has three DUIs.

1:47:52PFT Commenter:Yeah. So who are you going to trust? Yeah. Get real aggressive with it. Yeah, be like, hey, Peter in the front row, how's your wife doing? You guys still doing date night? That's not what I heard. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Just hit him back with it. Care to comment? Care to comment on your wife taking a liking to Pilates and having a male instructor? Care to comment? I'm looking at your resume. It looks like you've been at four different newspapers in the last 10 years. You have trouble holding down a job, buddy? Your reporting might not be that good. Hey, Joe in the back row. You went to Mizzou in the 80s.

1:48:31PFT Commenter:Coke much? You ever do cocaine, Joe? Just start fucking hitting him with it. Yeah. Sarah from the Tennessean. Your paper is losing money left and right. You're trying to go to a subscription model, Sarah? Yeah No one's buying it Yeah Hey, guess what? Loser People are bypassing the paywall Because your shit sucks Yeah Ever heard of Click Here for Reader View? This is what we need to do We need to, coaches, start fighting back Fighting back to the media Get real mean with it Yeah, real fucking mean I'm sure Call everything fake news Yeah, the fans, they'll love you She'll be like, we won that game No, sir, you lost 41-20 We won it in my eyes It was the biggest blowout this season.

1:49:16PFT Commenter:That's how we saw it. We executed all three phases. Many are saying that it's the best coached team that they've seen since Bill Belichick. Yeah. All right, speaking of the biggest blowouts, Vikings 48, Bengals 10. This game was crazy because it's crazy to see 48-10. You're like, no chance. The Bengals had no chance. The Bengals played really, really bad. Jake Browning did not have a very good game. Carson Wentz back. But there was a moment in this game. It was 17-3 at the end of the – I think it was – let me see what time it was. I think it was like in the second quarter. It was 17-3, and the Bengals were going in.

1:49:58PFT Commenter:They were driving. And it was like, okay. Jim Nance even said on the broadcast, he's like, we could have something here. Like the Bengals could be fighting back and be in this game. So it's 17-3. They're driving. and Isaiah Rogers makes a play on the ball, scoop and score, 66-yard touchdown, which, by the way, he also had a pick six for 87 yards. He had a PFF greeting of 99.9, first ever. That's pending review from the All-22. Pending review from the All-22. But either way, so it's 17-3. It's actually after the two-minute warning in the second quarter. So the Bengals are going in for a touchdown to make it 17-10 at halftime.

1:50:46PFT Commenter:The scoop and score happens. The halftime score goes from, it could have been 17-10. The halftime score is 34-3 because the scoop and score happens. Then the Bengals fumble again, then a touchdown. Then they fumble again and a field goal. Yeah. So it happened all like bang, bang, bang in the last two minutes. and then the game was over and the Vikings fucking killed him. So he had two returns for touchdowns, and I think he had also two forced fumbles for touchdowns. One forced fumble for touchdowns. One forced fumble for touchdowns, one pick for a touchdown, and then another forced fumble not for a touchdown.

1:51:23Yeah, yeah. That is the best first half defensively that you could possibly have.

1:51:26PFT Commenter:It was crazy, and they just absolutely took it to him. Carson Wentz, he didn't have the craziest stat line, but he was efficient. He played good enough. 14 for 20. They said he's going to get another opportunity. they're not putting J.J. McCarthy back in? Until week seven. Possibly, yeah. He's traveling to... I was confused by this. They said he's traveling to Europe to keep rehabbing, but he's also not going to probably play until... So the Vikings play back-to-back Europe games. So they're going on the road, then they get their bye week. So J.J.'s going with the team to Europe, rehabbing, not going to play, and then maybe after the bye week he plays?

1:52:03PFT Commenter:He's probably get that Christian McCaffrey Italian blood spinning thing. Yeah. That's what's going on over there. If I were J.J. McCarthy, I'd be like, can I not go? I have a newborn. I don't really want to go to Europe just to continue to rehab. I think J.J. McCarthy's injury status is going to be directly linked to if the Minnesota Vikings are winning playoff games or not, or winning regular season games or not. Yeah, Carson Wentz, how he played. Yeah, how's Carson Wentz? If Carson Wentz is not playing good, then J.J.'s injury might start to feel a lot better all of a sudden. Yeah. It's like good times create soft men.

1:52:38Soft times create Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz creates tough times. Tough times create hard men. Yep. So right now we're in the soft men create Carson Wentz. That makes sense. Part of that life cycle. And then once he falls off, then JJ's back in. Yeah. And then he'll be fixed by the time he gets back. Carson Wentz did play good today. He did what he was asked to do. I will admit that. even though I don't like the sound of his name or paying attention to him or looking at him. Max. Or his shins. He's good. He was good today. He was good today. He played well today. I am happy for Carson Wentz. No, you're not.

1:53:14I'm not happy to watch him play, but I'm happy for him as a person. I don't believe you. You're probably right. You don't like him. You don't like him. Yeah, you're probably right. But I said that I was happy for him. That's a nice thing for you to say. That should count for something. I am happy for him. What was it called? The Wenslay? He didn't throw in the second half. I love that. Yeah, he had the Carlay was right there. No.

1:53:42PFT Commenter:Wenslay kind of pops. The Wenslay. All I had to say was Wenslay in front of Hank and Hank rode hard. Because the Carlay, you don't know who that's about. It could be, yeah, it could be anyone. The Carlay I thought about. That would be confusing as well, though. Wensley works. Wensley plays. Yeah. Slay. Yeah, no, they didn't have to play in the second half because they just dominated. The Vikings had – they were the first team in NFL history to have two pass touchdowns, two rush touchdowns, two defensive touchdowns, two made field goals all before the fourth quarter. That's how, like, dominant they were.

1:54:20PFT Commenter:And the Vikings also – I don't really know what to make of them. They had week one where they played, like, dog shit for three quarters and then beat the Bears because J.J. McCarthy was awesome. Week two, they looked like absolute ass against the Falcons. Week three, they looked like the best team in the world and kicked the shit out of the Bengals. Yeah, it got so out of hand that they put in Max Brosmer. Yeah. Max Brosmer did clean up to today. Doesn't bode well for Desmond Ritter. No. But I think having Desmond Ritter as your backup would be the best insurance plan. Yeah. People are going to be – your teammates will block hard for you if Desmond Ritter is salivating on the sidelines.

1:54:57PFT Commenter:Kevin O 'Connell might be doing that just to keep his personal confidence in Carson Wentz. Yeah, you're not getting bent. Because he watches Desmond Rarys, like, you know what? It's not that bad. Also, shout out to Cam Akers. He didn't have a great game today or anything, but he did have five carries. Cam Akers has just left the Vikings and come back to the Vikings, I think, three times in the last three years. So, yeah, he was with the Vikings in 2023, and that's when the Rams traded him there. then he signed with the Texans in the 2024 offseason then he got traded back to Minnesota and then he didn't have a job and now he's back in Minnesota I like that good for him like when guys do that I don't really know what to make of the Bengals it feels like I had like a little hope that Jake Browning hey if you can tread water for a while and maybe he still will but I don't think I think this is going to be a tough tough uphill battle for the Bengals to try to be in any type of playoff spot for Joe Burrow to come back.

1:56:00Yeah, I don't see it. I mean, they got – I say hit the Mike White button. Yeah. Right? That's the button. Hit the Jameis button. Well, the Jameis button's not getting pressed.

1:56:12PFT Commenter:The Jameis button should be pressed. That'd be too fun. We like Jake Brown. He's a nice guy. But, like, hit the Jameis button for at least the Monday night games we have coming up. Yeah, I would love to see that. But the fact that they went out there and they got like three different Mike Whites to be his backup. When your quarterback is like an iteration of Mike White. Yeah. I feel like that's not going to happen with Jameis. Yeah. Okay. Afternoon games. So Vikings early. Hank, you should be pumped. We just get your football just coming up. Just onslaught of it right in our fucking face. Okay, wait.

1:56:50PFT Commenter:Right in our face. Vikings Steelers, I believe. More football. No, same amount of football. No, but like throughout the day. What about the Ryder Cup? Will you be watching Ryder Cup or will you be watching football? Both. Who are you rooting for in the Ryder Cup? You one TV guy? No. Oh. Hank. Yeah, me neither. Who are you betting on? USI. You promise? Yeah. Promise? I don't know. Promise. That might change. Promise? You're not going to bet on guys from Europe in their individual matches? Nope. Oh, that looks like you might. I won't. Okay. Afternoon games. You sure? Yeah. Okay. Chargers 23, Broncos 20.

1:57:36I got to say, Justin Herbert's just fucking awesome.

1:57:40PFT Commenter:Whose line is that? What? Ryder Town. Oh, okay. Now he's looking for it. U.S. is minus 145. Oh, you're definitely going to bet Europe. Europe's a plus sign. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. But if you had to, which side would you bet? What do you mean? If you had no one ever knew what you were going to bet, just you got to bet it. You love Europe plus, what is it, plus 160, 150? Plus 150. You love Europe. I love plus signs. So that's not fair for you to. Bet a tie. For you to. What could be more European than betting a draw? Oh, because I'm not European. 11 to 1. USA. I just love plus signs, period.

1:58:28It doesn't matter what the stakes are. But no, I'll find some fun plus signs within the game.

1:58:36PFT Commenter:Yeah, Justin Herbert is awesome. That throw he made to Keenan Allen. and if you're listening to this right now and you didn't see it, I'm sure most of the people who are listening did see it, but if you didn't, go watch it. That was one of the best throws I think I've ever seen. And I know that sounds very crazy. Does that sound crazy, Hank? No, no, no. He's still looking at lines. Yeah. That was one of the best throws I've ever seen because the way he was under pressure, had to step up, then had a guy in his face, had to throw basically off-platform to Keenan Allen that wasn't even open for a touchdown to tie the game with three minutes left in the fourth quarter.

1:59:13Yeah, it was incredible. He just shrugged a guy off. Shrugged a guy off. Then this guy was in his face. Throwing with his right arm as he's drifting to the left. Getting hit. While getting hit. It was very impressive. And, yeah, the Chargers are now – they have a stranglehold. They do. They got a stranglehold on the AFC West. It's awesome for them that they got started – they started their entire season with three games and three games against opponents that they would be facing in the division.

1:59:40PFT Commenter:Yeah. And if they're 3-0, it's going to be very tough for them to get out of that, for other teams to get out of that hole. Yeah, first off that, first time the Chargers have a two-game lead in the division since 2009, which is also the last time they won the AFC West. That's crazy. Derwin James should be the defensive player of the year. He's awesome. After three games. If the season ended today, I'd be very upset because that takes away a lot of football from us. But, yeah, today he had 12 tackles. He had four tackles for loss. Everything that Fred Smoot said about Derwin James, multiply that by three right now because I think he might be the best defensive player in football.

2:00:16PFT Commenter:Yeah. Memes, can you grab Shane because I did have a Chargers fan hit me up and was like, hey, can you get Shane in to talk about the Chargers because I need to get more pumped up about the Chargers. I was like, you know what? For all of our Chargers fans out there, you should get more pumped up about the Chargers. This team's really fucking good. Justin Herbert, like the Broncos were playing great defense in terms of like pressure. They were, I feel like Justin Herbert was harassed on almost every single drop back. I went and looked it up. It was 54 % pressure rate. So it was half his drop backs.

2:00:47PFT Commenter:He was just, you know, under pressure. Guys not open. The final two drives to, they were down, what, 2013. So they needed a touchdown and a field goal. The final two drives, eight for nine, 93 yards and a touchdown, including that throw to Keenan Allen. Shane, we're just talking up the Chargers, and someone tweeted me as like, hey, can you get Shane on when you talk about the Chargers to pump us up? Pump us up, Shane. That was sick. The whole game. It was awesome. Those years with Brandon Staley just did a damage on me, and to actually come out and win those games, it's just crazy. Yeah, because it did feel very Chargers-like for a minute there, where you were controlling the game.

2:01:30PFT Commenter:Then the end of the half happens where you give up. There's a miscommunication in the back half of the defense. Cortland Sutton gets the most wide-open touchdown. So you're going into the halftime. You were going to be up 10-0, right? Yeah. And then it's 10-7. You're like, what the fuck just happened? Then the Broncos come out and score 10 more points right away. So it's a 17-0 run for the Broncos. You're like, this Chargers team is going to quit. But no, Justin Herbert's that special. Yeah, at least since the Anthony Lynn era, it's always been like Chargers control a game and then a broken play on defense just changed the whole thing.

2:02:03We can't get momentum back. And ever since Harbaugh took over, it's just completely different. Do you think that Harbaugh has unlocked Quinton Johnson? I think it has to be, yeah. Yeah. He's awesome. Is he fully unlocked now? Did you see that he had made like a – he mossed a guy. Yeah, he mossed a guy. Yeah. I couldn't believe my eyes. It was crazy. Wait, did he Moss Moss? It might have been Moss. It might have been Moss. Yeah, Moss squared. It would be Moss Moss, M-A-S-M-O-S-S. The most Moss you can possibly be. Yeah. Now, so his rookie year, I looked up his stats. His rookie year, Quinton Johnson, guess how many yards he had.

2:02:41His rookie year, I think he had like 550. It was 431 yards receiving. His second year, Harbaugh gets there. He's got 711 yards. Eight touchdowns as opposed to two touchdowns his rookie year. 711 still not probably what you want out of him ideally right for what you what you spent on him in the draft right right now he's on pace for 1 354 yards and 17 touchdowns that's pretty good it's really good so like it might be crazy to say that quentin johnston might be a wide receiver one yeah i mean as as bad he's been in the past you can't like deny that he's just he's gradually gotten better and better and i mean hopefully even better yeah and last year it was like that

2:03:20PFT Commenter:That was the bugaboo about the Chargers. They didn't have guys to support Justin Herbert now. Quinn Johnson looks awesome. Lad's awesome. Keenan Allen is awesome again. It's crazy. Yeah, last year was just like a weapons problem. I feel now that we have like we kind of solidified the wide receiver room and everything just opens up so many more things. Also, did you know that this stat, it was going around earlier this week, that Jim Harbaugh has more rushing yards than Bo Jackson? Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Very cool. Okay, so you're pumped. So pumped. Win the AFC West. I hope so, man.

2:03:54PFT Commenter:I hope so. You got a stranglehold. You're up two games. I know. I know. I'm trying to limit expectations here. What happens if Justin and Madison break up? We can't let that happen. Can't let that happen. She was in the building today, too. Oh, yeah? She saw it all, yeah. There we go. Did you wear your lucky rings today?

2:04:17All right.

2:04:18PFT Commenter:Okay. All right. See you. All right. See you. That was a good segment. Yeah. Yeah, just bolt up with Shane. Bolt up. Bolt up with Shane. Charge him if you got him. Charge him if you got him. What did you say, Shane? Bolt up. Yeah, bolt up. Let's go. Beat the charges. High voltage. High voltage with Shane. I mean, yeah, I wanted to pump it up. Pump it up. It deserves pumping. Yeah, they're a very good team. Broncos. So, defense was there. Nick Bonita had a really good game. Yep. Bo Nix, he could have easily won this game if he just hits a couple of those deep balls. There was a couple. That one with like two minutes left, that was the game.

2:05:01PFT Commenter:He had that one nice pass. That was to Sutton, right? But that was as wide open as wide open. That was a good throw. Yeah, but that's one you got to look back. He's going to watch that and be like, I had this game. Yeah, I went. I had guys wide open. They could say that about this game. They could say that about last week's game. Yep. What they do, though, is in these games they don't really adjust, no matter how good the opposing quarterback is dealing with the blitz. Vance Joseph's just like, fuck it, let's just dial it up again. He loves to dial it up. He leads the league in dialing it up. And against Daniel Jones last week didn't work.

2:05:34Against Herbert this week also didn't work. The good news for them is that the AFC is not particularly strong right now. I still think that if you just look at their schedule, they have probably eight to nine more games that they should win, and they might be able to steal one or two.

2:05:53PFT Commenter:Yeah. They're still very much alive. If you're a Broncos fan, you want Bo Nix to take a step forward from last year, which was a very good year, and this was a game that he's your franchise quarterback, he could have easily won this game. There was moments where he had guys, and he just has to hit them. Yeah, these are two games that you've had week by week that you can point to at the end of the season and be like, this is why we're not hosting a playoff game. Yeah, yeah. Okay, we can do this game quickly. Seahawks 44, Saints 13. I'm done with the Saints. I don't know why I bet on the Saints.

2:06:29PFT Commenter:I shouldn't have bet on the Saints. This game was over so fast. Blink of an eye, game was done. It was so crazy. The Seahawks had, in the first half, they ran 21 plays total, seven minutes and 41 seconds time of possession. The score was 38-6. It's a bad, bad game. Bad pick that I gave out on part of my take on Friday. I feel like an idiot. Well, we were all with you. I feel like an idiot for betting on the Saints. they also just had the most frustrating coaching decision after the game was lost the game was the game yeah yeah so yeah i want to talk about what you're about to talk about let me just explain how quickly the game was lost it went the start of the game was saints turnover on down seahawks touchdown seahawks punt return touchdown seahawks block punt and then they scored two plays later the seahawks had their first four offensive possessions they scored four touchdowns on 15 total plays and then also throw in the fact that there was a punt return in the middle of that.

2:07:40PFT Commenter:So that's how you get 38-6 at halftime. Yeah, it was bad. 21 points in the first quarter of the game. Never felt like it was competitive. You can't even really blame Spencer Rattler too much for this loss. He is 0-9 as a starter. 0-9. 0-9 as a starter for Rattler. But this was more about everything else. And then he came in and didn't really help things that much. but Kellen Moore and his decision making was absolutely bizarre so they were down 35 to 3 actually you know what the first one well they were down 32 to 3 right yeah first one it was uh it was fourth and what four yeah around the 30-ish somewhere in there and he sends his kicker Blake Groupie out there to attempt a field goal and everybody was like what the fuck are you doing the people that were announcing the game i don't know who the uh commentators were but they said you know getting points is going to be good for momentum i know why kellen moore is going to do this he was trying to turn a four score game into a three score game i think that's what his rationale was then they missed that field goal yep which is ball don't lie you should not have tried that field goal saddest field goal of the week by far and then he had the saddest field goal maybe that I've ever seen.

2:08:57He was down 35-3. It was fourth and two. Was the ball on like the three-yard line? Yeah, with like five. Because it wasn't fourth and goal, was it? It was fourth and two, but it was inside the 10. Yeah, it was the end of the half. End of the half, ball inside the 10. And he sends his field goal unit out there to cut it to 35-6.

2:09:21PFT Commenter:It was quite something. It was the saddest field goal. Hank, if you need a diarrhea break, yeah, go. Diarrhea break. Go. Hey, listen, we all got something. What are you doing? Go. Go. Are you okay? Oh, no. He's going to poop. The way he got up. Hearing about this field goal. He didn't want to hear about the sad field goals. He did not. No, it was crazy. It was a 21-yard field goal. They were down 38-3. Yeah. I don't know how much more you can give up on a game than that. No, they were as given up as possible. By the way, the one you're talking about at the end of the half, that wasn't fourth down.

2:09:56PFT Commenter:It was first down. They just had ran out of time. There was three seconds left. It was first and goal from the five. So the other one was fourth and two then. Yeah. Yeah, no, it was first and goal from the five. And they were just like, you know what? We're going to try to get some more points on the board here because we really want to just get more points on the board. I don't know. First one, they were down 35-3. It was a 32-point game. Yeah. So they were trying to make it a 29-point game. Correct. Which I guess in that case, that's making a four-score game a four-score game. I'm really bad at math.

2:10:27PFT Commenter:No, it's work. No, no, no. That's a five-score game. Okay. 33 points is five scores. Okay. 32 is the most you can get out of four scores. And then they were down 38-3 at the 21-yard field goal. Just got to get points. He was going double sad field goal in the first half. It's the saddest field goal I can ever remember. Yeah. Yeah. And the Seahawks, yeah. they just they look good sam darnold look good he didn't really have to do much like it was it was that fast and that quick that they jumped on him like i said 15 plays in their first four drives 15 plays total all touchdowns that's as efficient as efficient could get it's yeah crazy yeah they yeah i mean 38 points and they had the ball for seven minutes in the first half 38 points seven minutes that's insane so seahawks saints i'm done with you i had them in frisky i no longer have them in frisky that was they're out of frisky let's try to find the saints first win okay seahawks thursday night football coming up against the cardinals uh to to kind of get themselves what they'd be three and one then be looking pretty good uh they're at the bills next week no saints at Bills.

2:11:40No. Then they have the Giants at home.

2:11:44PFT Commenter:That could be Jackson Dart because we're going to talk about them, the Giants real quick. Then they have the Patriots at home. No. Then they're at the Bears. That might actually be it. Just so fuck us. But probably not. No, they'll win one of these. Giants, Patriots, Bears. That feels like one of those they could find a way to win. But if they don't win that, Bucks, Rams is tough. Yeah, they got to win one of those three. They got to win one of those three. The Giants Patriots. I think Giants at home is what, if you're a Saints fan, you're circling that one. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, the Saints, let's see.

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2:14:23PFT Commenter:Okay, Niners-Cardinals. Niners-16, Cardinals-15. This was a rock fight. Max just kept on saying as we were watching this game, these are two 2-0 teams. They're two 2-0 teams. 2-0 teams. And now the 49ers are a 3-0 team. 3-0. And there but for the grace of God goes Mac Jones. Yeah. They asked him about the pick that he threw there, and he goes, I can't say that guy made a great play because I just threw the ball right at him. Yeah. He just made a play, the play that he should have made on my pass. The 49ers got very lucky to win this game. They went to Mac Jones' hell and somehow came out of it because we had Mac Jones throw a bad interception, Mac Jones get a safety, which was actually a holding in the end zone, and then Mac Jones lead them on a game-winning drive.

2:15:08PFT Commenter:So they literally went through Mac Jones' hell and came out the other side. They did it all. Ricky Pearsall had a big game today. He was awesome. That was cool to see. And, yeah, good for Kyle Shanahan for not letting Jake Moody sour him on letting kickers attempt field goals at the end of games. Yeah. Because Eddie Pinheiro drilled a big one during this game. And, yeah, the Niners are technically 3-0. They are. Listen, I think the Niners, once they get healthy, are going to be a very good, legit team. They basically, their offense, they have Mack Jones throwing the ball and they have Ricky Pierisal has to catch the ball, which he's good.

2:15:48PFT Commenter:And then they have to just hope that Christian McCaffrey can do everything because they couldn't really run the ball. today and but christian mccapri still ended up with uh 27 touches for 140 yards because he caught the ball a bunch too i think he had like 10 receptions he had 88 yards receiving yeah and he had the one that made the difference at the end yeah it got them into field goal territory um the 40 or excuse me the cardinals i heard hank hank was actually saying this earlier thanks back from his stinger break hank was talking about how's the rhea how's the diarrhea you it's it's not great it's it's not great i i don't want to you know we all got something no one no one wants to hear about it here to talk football but there's there's sometimes when you know it's an enjoyable experience sitting on sitting on the sitting on the loo and there's other times where it's just pain and you think you're never going to smile again and it's just it's you got demons in your stomach again the the like goosebumps and the cold sweats yeah just the bubbles and that's listen i people people the sweating is is when you know yeah it's like a panic sweat too yeah it's like you things are about to go real bad real fast it's like your body is in fight or flight mode yeah and listen i know that we make this uh this whole operation look glamorous but it takes a lot to to sit on a couch all day and eat pizza wings chipotle ice cream and uh survive and you know what god gives its uh toughest battles to his strongest warriors i don't know if you guys talked about it already but it was it was the no safety call against the Cardinals was absolute horseshit.

2:17:20PFT Commenter:What do you mean? Kyler Murray threw intentional grounding from the end zone, and they didn't call it intentional grounding, which I still don't understand. And then the 49ers got called for safety. The Cardinals got two points. That was a good call. 49ers didn't. That was a good call, but they were both safeties. 49ers didn't cover. I didn't understand the Kyler Murray one either because it was. He did not get the ball back. And it literally made every second of difference. Yeah, it was absolute horseshit. Yeah, so Kyler Murray, he ran back into the end zone. He threw the ball from the end zone.

2:17:57And then he had – It was intentional grounding. Then he had two feet in the end zone as he launched the pass. I guess the ball wasn't in the end zone when he threw it? And as he threw it, the ball crossed the white line.

2:18:07PFT Commenter:No, it was all the way – it was out before that. Yeah. Like the ball was out of the end zone as he was throwing it. Like he started his motion. But you know what? It's confusing to us because we're thinking about basketball. If your feet are behind that line, that means that you're in that area, right? But in this case, was it the ball? Is that what they tried to say? So if he was tackled right there, that wouldn't have been a safety? It would have been a safety. No, it's where the ball is. I think it's the spot of the ball. Parallax angle. No, but it's the spot of the ball. This is how safeties always work.

2:18:39PFT Commenter:There's so many times when you think you have a safety, and they're like, no, the ball got out. Like, the guy got tackled in the end zone, but the ball got out. We've seen it a million times. It was close to a safety. Should have been a safety. But they won the game anyway, so it's okay. Well, they didn't cover. Minus one and a half. That's where he's coming from. I heard Hank saying this earlier. I wasn't saying this. I know Big Cat was not saying this earlier. But Marvin Harrison Jr. might suck. Dude, I don't think he's great. He just drops balls. I think he's great. I think he's an awesome player.

2:19:07PFT Commenter:I'm not scared to say it. Apparently you are, but yeah. Yeah, I am. Yes. and James Conner got hurt which sucks always root for James Conner but yeah Marvin Harrison Jr. the one drop that he had was he has the yips you said earlier he has the yips both him and and yeah Brian Thomas yeah not good what on that on that one that he dropped he was definitely too open on that but the other one the other one when they called the defensive pass or the pass interference on his teammate that got like interfered with in the end zone and he still had a perfectly catchable ball like a receiver should catch that nfl receiver probably nine times out of ten like everything that we were scared of happening with jamar chase when he got to the nfl where he's like yeah there's stripes on the ball it's a different ball it's kind of weird that's what's happened to marvin harrison jr it's it's really strange he was solid last year too He wasn't that bad, but he's been horrible this year.

2:20:07He wasn't great last year. Cardinals fans would disagree with yours. They'd be like, no. I had him on my fantasy team. I thought he contributed. Did okay.

2:20:15PFT Commenter:He helped you out? Yeah. This year he was terrible. Because he doesn't have your coaching. Yeah. I'm not buying the Cardinals. I haven't been all year. Like I said, they played. I mean, they played the Niners tough, but it was Mac Jones too. Mac Jones tried to give him that game. There was also an injury of Nick Bosa. Yeah. But I don't think it was like an ACL. He did thumbs down. Yeah, that's the thing. It's like he was walking off the field. He saw somebody in the stands. They got him on camera. He hit them with the Bosa shrug, which was unintentional. It wasn't like that's just what he does.

2:20:48Yeah. He did the shrug, and then he goes thumbs down on my knee. So I think everybody thought, okay, maybe this is bad. I think he's going to be back.

2:20:56PFT Commenter:The 49ers just have the worst luck with all their injuries. The Bucs and the 49ers. I feel like they just have group injuries. Yeah. All right, last game. Bears 31, Cowboys 14. Bears won their gateway game. The gateway game happened. Now everything is back open. Season's back open. That was a very fun watch. Caleb looked awesome. Ben Johnson, I feel like he was like, you know what, fuck it. Let's just be ourselves. Also, we're playing the Cowboys. They suck on defense. And, yeah, it was awesome. Their defense was so bad today. So bad. The Cowboys, yeah. The Cowboys, yeah. No, they are bad. Yeah, yeah.

2:21:33And Caleb, but I'm not even saying that to take away from anything that Caleb did because he was making great plays with his legs. He was making great plays, keeping his eyes down the field and solid throws. But also, the Cowboys' defense is bad. Two things can be true. And I think Caleb was really, really good today. And he did that against a playoff team in the Cowboys. Jerry Jones said after the game he still fully believes that the Cowboys are a player. Oh, okay.

2:21:57PFT Commenter:So that's good. I do not. I do not believe that. But, yeah, it was fun. I mean, Caleb looked awesome. He was making the right reads. He had obviously that trick play, which was crazy. DeAndre Swift, I do not think he was supposed to put that much air on the flea flicker pass backwards. Yeah. And I was like, oh, fuck, oh, fuck. And then Caleb just ripped it to Luther Burden, ripped another one to Roma Dunze, that touchdown to Cole Komet. Like, as cool as the trick play was, and it was awesome, I thought the Bears, the thing that I was most excited about were the two drives. And their last drive in the first half and their first drive in the second half because the last drive in the first half was like a classic moment where it actually – our good friend Tom Fernelli texted me during the – like before we got the ball, he was like, let's go get six.

2:22:45PFT Commenter:And they did. And afterwards he was like, have this ever happened where we've been like, hey, let's go get six, and we actually did. But it was 17-14, two and a half minutes left, and the Bears just went down the field and scored a touchdown. And they scored it on a fourth down. and it was, or actually no, the fourth down was later, but they scored, it was the Colt Komet touchdown. They, seven plays, 71 yards, touchdown drive. It was like, holy shit. They had two and a half minutes left. They had to get a touchdown. They went and got a touchdown. And then the drive in the third quarter where they just played bully ball.

2:23:17PFT Commenter:And it was a 19 play drive, nine minutes and 54 seconds. Ben Johnson was like, we've gotten all this way. We're going to go for it on fourth and goal. Kill shot, 31-14, game over. That was awesome. It was just very, very fun. It was the first. No, I'm not going to say it because then I'm going to the Packers fans are going to use this against me. It was last year, week 18. The Packers weren't. I don't think they were playing for anything, really. And the Bears won. This was the first time the Bears won a game where they were like still alive since London of last year, which is like week five. So it's been a long time.

2:23:57PFT Commenter:that they've won a game where it's like, oh, now we can see what happens for the next week and not, oh, they won a game, then the season ended and we only won five games. So what were you going to say? No, that's what I was going to say. I don't – Packers fans are going to be like, oh, you're saying that it wasn't even a real game that you beat the Packers. I think they had some playoff seeding stuff. But I'm saying the Bears didn't have anything. The Bears haven't won a game where they then were like, oh, next week, let's see if we can build on this. It was a great win for the Bears. They lost 11 in a row last year.

2:24:25And as excited as Bears fans are to see Caleb go out there and play really well, I think they're more excited about the fact that they get free hot dogs at Wiener Circle. Yes. Where if he throws four touchdowns, then the whole city of Chicago gets free hot dogs. Yeah, Wiener Circle. They're not going to be able to handle it. They're going to go out of business. Yeah.

2:24:43PFT Commenter:Be careful on all traffic. But no, that kicked ass. And Ben Johnson outcoached Matt Eberflus. Yeah, there was a funny tweet. I got to pull it up because I bookmarked it because I want to give the guy credit. it was Ben Devine said finally Matt Eberflus is developing Caleb Williams yeah facts yeah it was it was a very impressive performance it was awesome yeah so Caleb had 298 yards four touchdowns he's got seven touchdowns uh on the season one interception he's ripping it up he said that stepping forward on that uh that deep pass on the flea flicker to Luther Burden he said that he sucked at that throw in practice he said he underthrew him every time in practice love it And he told him in the game, like, hey, I'm not going to underthrow you on this one.

2:25:26Yeah. That's a way better thing to say than in the past when he's been like, that play was awesome in practice. Yeah.

2:25:33PFT Commenter:Yeah. I'm excited. Even though you pointed out that the Cowboys' defense sucks. I mean, they do. I was going to wait to point that out. You pointed out right away. But I'm still excited. That was fun. It was a very fun game. Kind of yucked it a little bit. Well, you knew. I mean, the Cowboys. Yeah, I know. But I was going to say it at the end. I was going to enjoy the moment of Caleb being awesome and looking awesome. I think you're being a little sensitive. Well, yeah. It was the first time that he's played and looked like that. And he was awesome. Ever. Memes, help me out here. Memes is going to.

2:26:02PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah. You go to memes. The team's quarterback is not even playing right now. You go to memes. This is the first time I've been able to be like, that was so much fun. Caleb Williams looked awesome. I know it came against a bad defense. It was awesome. But now you've got a week four Super Bowl coming up. Because if you lose to the Raiders this season, it's beyond over.

2:26:25Right? Calling the Raiders a week four Super Bowl. No, I'm saying if you— That was way meaner than what I said.

2:26:32PFT Commenter:I wanted to disagree with that, but I don't know if that might be true. You've got to stack wins. If you beat the Raiders, you're 2-2. You've got to stack wins. And things can happen. Yes. Things can happen from 2-2. No, that's why this week is the game. If you lose against the Raiders, one in three season's over. Part of the gateway opening was beating the Raiders. That's a Super Bowl. You got to win. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. No, but this was the gateway. No, the gateway, though, that opens you up to must wins. To another gateway. No. No. Must wins. Okay. Like, there's no more. You can't. If you lose to the Raiders and then in, like, week seven, like, oh, this is a gateway.

2:27:04It's a must win. There is no. It's a must win. The gate is closed. Yeah. No, no, it's a must win. But if you lose to the Raiders, then are you out on thinking that you might get to five and four or six and three? No, we'll just have to open up another gateway game. Gateway, then must win. Yeah, yeah. Then if you lose, must win.

2:27:19PFT Commenter:You do a gateway game to get to a must win because a gateway game is not saying that you have to win. It's saying if you lose, it's over. But it also depends who you're playing. If you were playing in Eagles, Rams, Chiefs, it wouldn't be a must win. You got to beat the Raiders. You got to beat the Raiders. Got to beat the Raiders. What's the difference between a gateway and a portal game? Portals in college when you enter the portal and change schools. But you had a portal game, I think, last year. I think it was a gateway game. Okay, so it's the same thing. Either way, that was really fun. It was a very, very enjoyable watch, except for the over not hitting.

2:27:54PFT Commenter:Max, you will never talk about Joe Milton in a positive way again. You said that after. I texted you that, and you said, yes, you're right. I get it until Wednesday things can change. No, come on. We talked about this. The dude just fucking does the same thing every time. We needed that over. Seven points in the second half is fucking disgusting. Disgusting. The Cowboys being inside the one-yard line and they didn't run once is so fucking beyond me. How do you not? Just try it one time. Javante Williams has been fucking awesome. No one cares about your fucking bets, but that over should have hit.

2:28:34PFT Commenter:Yeah, well, and CeeDee Lamb getting hurt was a big miss for the Cowboys. But yeah, and the Cowboys were running the ball. Our defense isn't good, so they were giving up six yards of carry. I'll also say that there was a buzz in the air when Joe Milton got in. There was. Well, he was slinging it. It felt different. The ball flies different coming out of his hands. It said you were going to knock. It was fun. That interception that he had. I miss him. It's because his arm's too strong. He threw it too fast. Turpin didn't get there in time. He's too good. Joe Milton's – the problem is never with Joe Milton not being able to play the game of football.

2:29:12The problem is the game of football not being advanced enough as a sport to adequately live up to Joe Milton's arm. He also got it down to the two without... No, he didn't. He did, and then there's a bullshit penalty.

2:29:25PFT Commenter:So he didn't get it to the two. He never ran a play on the two. But the ball was at the two. But it was never spotted at the two. The ball got to the two-yard line. The ref never spotted the ball at the two. But the football was there. Okay, so if you just throw the ball in the air and it bounces? Wrong. It was caught and brought and down at the two. And then they flagged. You gave me your word that you were going to quit Joe. That was an emotional time. Okay. He is awesome. I wish he got me older. Did you hear Tom Brady talking about him? Tom Brady was like, this guy's body is built to throw a football.

2:30:03Look at that arm. Long, skinny, like a whip. And I was like, Tom's right. It was a bad pick.

2:30:10PFT Commenter:It was a bad pick. It was a Joe Milton pick. 1 ,000 miles an hour. It was awesome. Right into a guy's chest. Great pick. He was put in a bad spot. He had to force it. Literally the easiest spot. Oh, he needed to score twice to win. No, they gave up because they put him in. It was the easiest spot you could possibly be in. No one's playing anymore. Joe Milton was trying to win that football game. No one was playing. Yeah, fun day, though. I had a lot of fun. Caleb looked awesome. Ben Johnson looked like he got his footing a little bit. I know it's against the Cowboys defense. This doesn't really count, but we're going to stack.

2:30:46PFT Commenter:We're going to stack something. No, it counts for the reasons why I said it counted, which was that regardless of their defense, like the plays that Caleb was making were great plays. Yeah, he looked good. The throws were great. The running was great. Decision-making was great. It was an awesome game for him. I'm excited, so we'll see what happens on Sunday. Gateway has been opened. We'll see where we go from there. I do have a stat for you, PFT. You ready for this? Mm-hmm. uh today caleb got his 4 000th yard uh passing as a bear uh the the bears now lead the entire nfl with most quarterbacks with at least 4 000 yards passing no big deal and they pass the commanders wait the bears lead the nfl this is a stat from uh say it again i want to i want to say i want to shout out the guy it's the funniest thing i've seen because it's it's it's a hilarious stat because it's like a kidney shot.

2:31:39PFT Commenter:You have to walk away before you realize it's an insult. This was from JP Analyst. The Bears have more 4 ,000-yard passers than any other team in history. We have 21 4 ,000-yard passers. The Washington Commanders have 20. No big deal. Sorry, we're number one. Have more 4 ,000-yard passers, which is how many? 21. We have 21 guys who've had at least 4 ,000 yards total for the Chicago Bears. My brain is just trying to, because you understand when I hear 4 ,000-yard passer. Yes, correct. I think of the old Bears stat. Yes, I'm not saying for one season. I'm saying for their career. Right, okay. Caleb Williams now has 4 ,000 yards in a Bears uniform.

2:32:24PFT Commenter:It took him a year and three games. Yep. 21 guys who've done it. It's literally a stat being like, this is how many quarterbacks you have employed. And that makes sense that you have surpassed us. because the last it's that eagles are third 17 you forget like how awesome was that what five seasons were you a jay cutler yeah that stability of just having one guy that was good yeah yeah the bears still don't have a 4 000 yard passer in a season but they have the most guys who have had 4 000 yards total in their bears good for them oh such a funny graphic to look at you're like fuck yeah and then you're like oh shit that's just a lot of really bad quarterbacks but yeah that happened so congrats to caleb uh all right real back question rhoback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase what what are you looking oh okay i was just looking up uh the commander stats i think jayden has 4 ,001 yards passing but they probably didn't take that into account that he was probably the one that tied us we were tied with you yeah for one week yeah and then bears took the lead again yeah look at this see isn't that hilarious that's pretty good it's ridiculous you know like houston has five guys because they haven't been a franchise for yeah long uh okay rowback question rhoback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q zips polos hoodies joggers shorts uh my rowback question to the whole group is Russell Wilson done.

2:33:53Should be. Should be. Yeah. I think the time has come. Have you guys ever seen Old Yeller? I actually haven't. I refuse to watch that movie.

2:34:02PFT Commenter:That was a pitiful, that sequence. I haven't either. I haven't either. Have you seen Marley and Me? Nope. Nope. I haven't either. But I'm pretty sure what we're looking at with Russell Wilson is pretty similar to both Marley and Me and Old Yeller. Yes. but it was bad tonight for old Russie the moon balls were there but they were just thrown directly to safeties so the Chiefs get their first win played good defense looked like Mahomes that was crazy because we started recording the play the Chiefs ran where it looked like a touchdown and the guy dropped it I don't know if it was Thornton. Yeah.

2:34:48PFT Commenter:They just literally were like, we'll just do that again. And then they did it again and they got it. So you could see the Chiefs are starting to come along of like taking deep shots, trying to bring their offense along. But yeah, the story out of this game, because I think we all think the Chiefs are going to be just fine and be a playoff team. Oh, they're not? I don't think so. Okay. Russell Wilson, it's just got to end. Got to go. This was too much. That sequence at the end of the game with like two minutes left when they were first in goal from I think like the four yard line. He got an intentional grounding penalty.

2:35:30PFT Commenter:Which is egregious. Intentional grounding at the four yard line is egregious. Yeah. He just threw a check down. Then he threw two straight balls like out of the end zone. Just not even near anyone. just throwing it. Yeah. To try not to get another intentional grounding, I guess. But, yeah, I think it's got to be done. Jackson Dart was, again, electric when he got into the game. Had to carry for three yards. Yep. What do you guys think about his look? So the turtleneck. Good question. The turtleneck is interesting. And the, like,$100 ,000 chain, half face paint. Yeah, the turtleneck is kind of like boy band from 1997 type look.

2:36:07I don't know. I feel like a turtleneck in Decent warm weather Would actually like hamper you as a quarterback Right? Yeah, I don't really like it

2:36:18PFT Commenter:I just think he's putting himself in a spot of like If you're going to look like that you have to play really Really good You also have to be a starter You can't wear all that And like play two plays a game But in his case it's like Everyone knows he's going to be the starter Dress for the job you want, not the job you have But you also don't dress like that until after you start to win. Him dressing like that is making Russ Wilson play worse. Like Joe Burrow didn't dress like that off the rip. Well, he was a starter off the rip, right? But I'm saying it took him like, you know, he went to the Super Bowl and then he kind of became like swaggy Joe.

2:36:55But if you're Russell Wilson and you look over at the sidelines and your backup is wearing the turtleneck and the chain and he's got the sweet towel and everything, you don't exactly feel comfortable in your job security at that point. It's like, this guy's obviously taking my job.

2:37:13PFT Commenter:How much fun do you think it is to get in for those two plays for Jackson Dart? You got to be like, holy shit, that was sick. Yeah, probably. Playing in an NFL game. It's probably pretty sweet because now he can go out in Hoboken and they're like, yo, Jackson, you should be playing more often. He's like, I know. And also, you have to take a shower? Yeah. You got to do something? Yeah. That didn't stop Biz. That's true. Busy used to shower with the boys after he was a healthy scratch. Yeah, that's true. That's just being a dude. Now, the Giants offense should run entirely through Cam Scadaboo. Oh, something about Scadaboo.

2:37:42Something about Scadaboo. Something about him. I can't put my finger on it. There's something about him that I trust. This seems like a hardworking, lunch pail, gritty guy, ham and eggs. He just runs through people. Kind of guy you'd like to date your daughter. Yeah. He's awesome to watch with the ball. The balance that he has is just incredible. He's going through contact, spinning on one leg, and then getting up and screaming people's faces. At least the Giants have that to watch. Yeah. You have a couple things going for you if you're a Giants fan. One, Graham Gonneau's groin, I guess, isn't entirely shattered.

2:38:15Yeah. Even though before the game they basically said he wasn't going to kick, and then Gonneau was like, oh, I can make a 30-yarder. Just send me out there.

2:38:21PFT Commenter:We need an Amber Alert before a game to be like, hey, the kicker's not playing because weird shit's about to happen. because that's all that happened is weird shit just happened. Like, you know, they got their extra point blocked. Will they, won't they go for it? I just want to know right away because it just changes how a game goes. Oh, Graham Grinnell did come out, so he did come out and kick one. Yeah, yeah. That's what I said. So they brought him out. It was like a really short one towards the end, which made it four field goals for the game, which I appreciated. But they talked about him before the game like he wasn't – like the Giants weren't going to have a kicker, which happens all the time to the Giants.

2:38:56Yeah. They got to figure that out. But at least you've got that. You've got Cam Scadabo, who's so fun to root for, and then you've got the prospect of Jackson Dart supplanting Russell Wilson at some point. Yeah. So you've got some things. Malik Neighbors. Yeah, you've got Malik Neighbors.

2:39:10PFT Commenter:You didn't get – I think that's really like the big we've got to be done with Russ is when you aren't getting the ball to Malik Neighbors. He had two catches for 13 yards. I know he got banged up, but like you got – I don't know. Just be done with Russ. We've seen this too much. It's over. It's over. The question is, is it this week against the Chargers? You have to go to Los Angeles. No, that's at home. Sorry. At home against the Chargers. And Andrew Thomas did play tonight. He did. He was on a snap count. So I always thought that they were going to wait until he comes back to put Jackson Dart back in.

2:39:45PFT Commenter:So maybe this week he's ready to go for the whole time. Is it this week or is it the week after at the Saints? Probably Saints. I felt like it was the Saints. You want to protect them a little bit. Yeah. that seems like the time yeah but in the meantime let's let jamis start against the chargers yeah give us bridge quarterback give us fucking jamis a literal bridge quarterback a weak bridge quarterback yeah a week-long bridge well to save your fans from jumping off them yeah exactly uh but yeah we and russ you should want like you've had an awesome career dude like we can't this is just getting sad right like let's stop because he tries so hard and it's it's tough to watch it's tough to watch he was like just throwing check downs at the end of the game too like into the dirt tough to watch but the chiefs have won their first game and i think they'll be fine too yeah i think chiefs are going to make the playoffs that patrick mahomes play that he had today was incredible threw the ball backwards to pacheco who didn't really make didn't really seem like it was his number one priority to dive on the ball no uh defense scooped it up Mahomes with a chase down tackle and strip directly into his own hands.

2:40:53Got the ball back.

2:40:54PFT Commenter:Yep. Yeah, we were talking about it in the cave. I actually, and you said to PFT, I think every time a quarterback throws it behind the line of scrimmage, that should just be a fumble. Yeah. That's a good point, Hank. Yeah. Max, what do you think about that? Thank you for reminding me to bring that up. What?

2:41:13I just searched Mahomes. There's a lot of crazy memes. Hank had a really good point. Hank made a great point. You totally missed it. You weren't listening, so we'll see if you bring it up later. I was trying to find the clip of Mahomes, and then I got distracted. Tell Max the point Hank made. Wait, Max, what was Mahomes doing in the clip they brought up? It was Mahomes loses 15 yards, and then Chris Collinsworth fondling – or a meme of a guy fondling balls saying this is Chris Collinsworth.

2:41:41PFT Commenter:It was. I mean, Mahomes did it twice where he just threw it backwards for, like, no reason. I still don't know what Hank said. Zach, we threw the ball backwards, and then was it a fumble? Yeah. It was. Well, the first time it was, but they didn't call it. Yeah, Zach, you think there's like a rule change or something? That everyone behind there is a fumble? Yeah, behind the line of scrimmage. Oh, okay. I got it. What do you think about that, Max? I think that should be a rule change. Yeah, okay. We should talk about that. Good shit. All right, let's finish up. Who's Back of the Week? Who's Back of the Week is sponsored by Twisted Tea.

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2:42:56PFT Commenter:I feel like I'd come right away. I was talking about soaking in Utah. That's a fair point. I got lost in the memes. That's on me. I was trying to do my job, and then I got distracted. All right. Yeah. Let's hold on to your butts time. The AL especially. I think the Blue Jays clinched today. They were the first AL team to clinch a spot in the playoffs. One week left in the season, the Tigers are collapsing. Imploding. The Guardians, who seemed like, you know, I just follow the guys. We have a bunch of Cleveland guys that are here, and it seemed like in the middle of the season, they had more or less given up.

2:43:34Surging. Even like a month ago, it was kind of like they have no shot at the playoffs or so far back. They might win the AL Central.

2:43:40PFT Commenter:Yep. But NL, I know, is also like there's a lot of jockeying for position and a lot of stuff that can still happen the next week. So it's exciting. I mean, we got Ryder Cup this weekend, and then it's full gear playoff baseball. It's the best time of year. Probably going to be Red Sox-Yankees. Yeah. Although legitimately every day it switches. Yeah, right now, like the Astros and the Guardians would have to play, I think, another game. They had to play 163. They're both tied for the last playoff. For the last wild card. If the season ended today in the National League, who's in? It would be the Cubs versus the Padres, and it would be the Dodgers versus the Reds because the Reds have the tiebreaker on the Mets.

2:44:23Because the Reds and the Cubs are BFFs, and the Cubs let the Reds win baseball games so that the Mets don't make it. That's exactly what happened.

2:44:31PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited. Yeah. I mean, the Cubs still have to play a little bit because they want to play home against the Padres. and only three games up on the Padres. Which will be a best of three, all three games at home. Correct. That's how the wild card works. Yeah, it's awesome. I'm excited too, Hank. It's going to be fun. Do you think you're going to make it? I don't. I do, but I – 65-35, yes. Did you play the Blue Jays? And I guess the Blue Jays – And the Tigers. And the Blue Jays – The Tigers will definitely be playing for something, or most likely. And the Blue Jays are still going to be playing for home field throughout.

2:45:15PFT Commenter:Because there are three games up right now on the Mariners for home field throughout. Yeah. AL's got some spicy races. Nothing good like a little last week of the season pennant race. And you got Cal Raleigh, who, what, 58 home runs? Yeah, he passed Griffey. So there's a chance that he surpasses Aaron Judge. Yeah. If he continues hitting like this. Yeah. For the AL record, which the haters would say is the all-time record. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty crazy. He's awesome. Big dumper. Our guy. But, yeah, playoff baseball is coming in. Yeah, the Phillies are just cruising right now, Max. Yeah, we lost two or three this weekend.

2:45:56Okay. But we're in cruise control right now. Yeah, but you could still maybe get the one seed. Yeah.

2:46:03PFT Commenter:You'd have to win. You'd probably have to win. We're down. We're two and a half back. I mean, we're probably going to get the... We're focused on getting the bye. Got it. The magic number is two right now to get the bye. The Mets aren't even in the playoffs right now. Correct. The Mets need to be in the playoffs. I'll say that. It's not happening. They fucking suck. Really? I mean, they just keep playing Cedric Maldi. He was the worst trade deadline acquisition of all time. He fucking sucks. I'm sorry. It's okay. Do you think he'll be in the playoffs, Mims? I don't. I do good answer I do I do in the Mets history how many times have they made the playoffs in back to back seasons I feel like this is going to be a one or two two that is disgusting New York teams are a joke I'm rooting very heavily Max is so scared of having to go spend a week in New York and just be in that cave we did kind of set that precedent that if what if the Phillies make it against the Mets then you go yeah Yeah, we did.

2:47:08PFT Commenter:What does that look? Nothing. Oh. Red Sox-Yankees? What about it? Max is smiling ear to ear right now. That's a much different precedent.

2:47:22But they're both New York teams, and we have the New York office. People stream the games there. I'm not the one that said Max had to go. Well, yeah. What about last year? Did he say he had to go last year? No. We can.

2:47:36PFT Commenter:But yeah, playoff baseball I still haven't hopped on the bandwagon yet That's true You're right That's honestly very fair Regardless, if you guys make the playoffs Are you automatically on the bandwagon? Yes, duh What do you mean? Because you might be like Are you watching any Red Sox games right now? No Are you checking the scores every night? Yes That's running along it now. It's like in theory he cares. Once Roman Anthony got hurt, it was like, alright, we're kind of screwed. Maybe Team of Destiny, but it's like... That's fine. I was kind of waiting. I said it. I've been very honest about where I'm at with this entire year, and the Roman Anthony injury was like, well, that's our best player.

2:48:23He got hurt. It's tough to win a World Series without your best player. If you make the playoffs, so just by design you just have to do it. You have to hop on the bandwagon and watch all the games. Philly's best player got hurt for the rest of the year. Bryce Harper? Zach Wheeler.

2:48:40PFT Commenter:Damn, Shaded Schwarber. Are the Red Sox better without Devers? Yeah, they have been, right? Good trade. Yeah. I guess. I'm excited. I'm going to go to all the Cubs games. Well, they got to clinch the home games. But, yes, I'm excited for some playoff baseball. Very excited. I need it to be like 15 degrees colder. Don't you agree? Nah. No. You guys don't want that? This weather's been perfect. No, but it has to be like, you guys agree that playoff baseball, you have to be in like the 60s. I agree with that. If I had a team that was in the playoffs, I would be rooting for it to feel more like fall.

2:49:23PFT Commenter:Just 60s. I'm not asking for cold. I'm just saying, I don't want to watch playoff baseball in the 80s. Yeah, as a bystander, I'm okay with the 70s and 80s. What if it just goes back up as soon as the Cubs game is over? Yeah, I'm fine with that. That's fine. Once it starts to get colder, then you start to think about that it's getting real cold. I agree. I agree. Speaking of which, Daylight Savings is coming up this Saturday. So make sure you change your clothes. I'm very excited for Zach's first first Chicago winner. Oh, man. PFT, you're who's back. Do you have that jacket yet, Zach? I don't yet.

2:49:57People have sent me some solid recommendations. I have yet to acquire it yet because it's been so nice out still. It's been like kind of good. Yeah, but you want to get the jacket before it gets cold. Great point. You're right. I got to get that. Just get a really nice warm jacket. Really nice. PFT. My who's back of the week is Ralphie. Yes. Because Colorado got a new Buffalo Ralphie. Ralphie 7. There's a seventh Ralphie. The old Ralphie did not feel much like running. The new Ralphie made its debut over the weekend, and this Ralphie is fucking awesome. This Ralphie is fast. Yes, this Ralphie is a little under control.

2:50:31Shout out to Ralphie's handlers. I don't know how they tell the Buffalo which direction to run as it makes its circle kind of around the field, but they get it right back in the pen. Awesome debut. Rookie of the year right now is Ralphie in college football.

2:50:45PFT Commenter:And by the way, just if you missed it, Ralphie Six did not pass away. Ralphie Six released a press statement saying Ralphie was no longer interested in running. Yeah, did not feel much like running. It was not his thing. The most relatable press release of all time. But this Ralphie, it was born to run. Yes. This Ralphie, I can tell. Almost got away. Like a bat out of hell. Yeah. This thing took off. So this is good thing. This is all good things for the Buffaloes. Yes, absolutely. Okay, my who's back of the week. I told you guys I'd tell this story because we were all separate this weekend. I was in Utah.

2:51:19PFT Commenter:Shout out Utah, by the way. Incredible crowd for big noon kickoff. Awesome stadium. But on Friday night, I got Rinaldi'd. So Tom Rinaldi works for Fox. Awesome dude. And I say this in like the most loving way because he was like really nice, fun person to like have dinner with. But Tom Rinaldi is exactly Tom Rinaldi when you're watching like the when he talks to like a kid who's gone through adversity when he, you know, like E60s, he obviously doesn't work at ESPN anymore. He broke me down mentally. Like I see a therapist every week and it wasn't even close to what Tom Rinaldi did to me. How much could he charge as a therapist?

2:52:00PFT Commenter:Dude, all right, so here's two of the questions he was asking me. He was also calling me cat, which I loved. He was just like, so cat. And again, I enjoyed this a lot, but this is just, I think Tom Rinaldi is just one of those guys that's very interested in people. How many people were at this dinner? It was two tables of like 10 each, but he and I were at the end of the table, so we were sitting across from each other. So it was like kind of one-on-one. he asked me 1 to 10 and you can't answer 5 how much of a risk taker would you say you've been in your life and I was like what is that question this is a dinner question and then the other one was I said a 7 and he said that his biggest regret is being too low of a risk taker and I was like okay did you say that's bullshit I want to answer 5 no I thought about it more because saying you can't answer five is like, oh, shit.

2:52:55I think that's his trick because if you want to answer five, that actually means that you're a one. Yeah, right.

2:53:01PFT Commenter:I didn't want to answer five. Yeah. And then his other one was, he's like, Kat, would you say you fear rejection or failure more? And I was just like, what is, it just blew my mind how he would just ask these questions. He just kept on going through it. Yeah, I would need like a follow-up on that one too. Yeah, I did. Aren't they kind of the same thing? But they're not. If you get rejected, doesn't that mean you failed at not getting rejected? No, you can fail without rejection, and you can be rejected without being failed. Because I was talking about working at Barstool and what other people thought about it.

2:53:38PFT Commenter:Rejection. Is that rejection? Is it failure? So yeah, I got Rinaldi. I think my biggest fear is now getting Rinaldi. I actually enjoyed the dinner so much with him, but it was just very funny because his cadence his tone it's exactly the same and i got to basically do my own like mini e60 with tom rinaldi at dinner he should have a little like portable piano that he pays somebody to follow him around with it makes it like really somber like twinkling sounds and notes yeah provides the soundtrack to the interview yeah so many people must cry when they talk to tom yeah i think he was trying to get me to cry i was pretty close also i came back and i we all do this we have dumb thoughts in our head and then we say them out loud and then when you say them around people and they're like what the fuck did you just say that happened to me because we were talking about how we all have tummy stingers right now and i was like yeah i have diarrhea i think it was just the altitude and i had italian for dinner on friday and everyone laughed in my face and they're like altitude i was like yeah that must have been it i i heard i heard that excuse i was like we're blaming the altitude of diarrhea it wasn't because i ate like 4 000 calories in six different desserts at the Italian dinner.

2:54:45PFT Commenter:It was the altitude. The air's thin. What's it going to do to your poop? Yeah, because I had convinced myself. I was like, I'm not sick. It's the altitude. Yeah, I've been working off diarrhea for about four days now. Three days. Tummy stingers. Tummy stingers. What do you got, Hank? What are you looking at? What? Can you speak? This is a podcast. I'm just... Are we... Like, we got it. There's an elephant in the room here. What? The ice cream machine. No. That's okay. These guys said they didn't... I didn't get it till... I had two servings. I haven't had ice cream in a month. I also didn't get it till Friday, and I didn't have any ice cream on Friday.

2:55:26I didn't. I had no ice cream today. Yeah. All right. Matt, that might be because you haven't had ice cream. Your body's like, what's going on? Maybe.

2:55:34PFT Commenter:I did have ice cream, even though I have a tummy stinger. That's how tough I am. I was like, fuck it. I'm not going to let this take me down. And then it did take me down even further. Zach finishes off. My who's back of the week is PFT. I was recently tasked with some logistics on the most recent Pop Punk show, and I was reminded that outside this podcast, PFT is also just a punk rock star. I've seen him do guitar riffs in the office and some clips, but seeing it on the stage in real time was pretty sick, and just being able to be that good in a musical instrument to be able to come together as a band and perform for people was sick to watch.

2:56:14Thank you, Zach. The shows are a lot of fun. And Zach did a great job, by the way. Him and Jacob, the Cream Team guys, they were the roadies for Pop Punk. So made the drive to Bloomington. They got everything there safe and sound. Zach, you drove back. I did. And everything was cool with your drive. Everything was good. No issues. Okay. The parallel parking job that you guys did outside the venue was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my entire life, though. It took them probably, what, seven minutes to parallel park? It took quite a while, but that van, no windows in the back. Rearview mirror, useless.

2:56:51Void mirror, not good. That's true. What did you guys talk about? Throughout the drive? Yeah, on the drive. Oh, it was all over the place. You know, you start with music, but then after a while, the music goes out the window. Then we start getting a little bit personal. We was going into some family stuff. He was giving me backstory. I was giving him a little bit backstory, you know? And you guys were great on stage, too. It was a good ride. You guys were ripping shots on stage. Hell yes. Cool to see, Zach. It was sick to watch you guys perform. I thought that was awesome. He shreds.

2:57:15PFT Commenter:He absolutely shreds. He absolutely rips the guitar and the stage presence as well. So he's like captivating the audience and destroying the guitar at the same time. Pretty sick. You know what we call that? What do we call that? A rock star. Punk rock star. Yeah. Stamp it. I think there's a chance that at the Chicago show, I think we might do Freebird again. Oh, hell yes. Sick. I think. And I'm going to try to get one of the Freebird guitars to do it. Hell yes. even though I'm not worthy of touching it or looking at it. Hell yes. We'll see. Okay. Numbers. Three. Oh, nice. Memes. 22. 33. I'll go four.

2:57:54I'm going to go. 99.

2:57:5885. 61. 19. 76. What'd you guys take? 22. I don't know about you. I'm feeling 22.

2:58:18PFT Commenter:31. PFT, your birthday. Hell yeah. which is 131 days away. Oh, we got the clock set? Yeah, I'm 130 days away. Oh, yeah. Aren't you getting a death clock? Yeah, we got to get memes death clock. Sick.

2:58:38Love you guys. Love you memes. Whatever.

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