NFL Week 4, Fastest 2 Minutes, Chiefs Are Back, Bills/Eagles Stay Undefeated + We Talk Ryder Cup And Baseball Playoffs

14:46Dan Katz:Yeah, Kenny Gainwell was doing a good job running the football. Got some pop. Aaron Rodgers a little dinking and donking, but he hit that one to DK, who's still very, very fast.

14:54PFT Commenter:Did you see before he hit that one to DK, he ripped the biggest smelling salt? Ripped the salt, yep. It was so awesome. Yeah, it was very cool. Yeah, and maybe this is what the Steelers offense is going to be. is Aaron Rodgers getting the ball out insanely fast. I think I saw the stat. It was 2.17 seconds to throw. He just was whipping it around. Not like a ton of big-time downfield passes, but it didn't matter because the Steelers' offense looked better than it has in a while against a good Vikings defense.

15:24Dan Katz:Yeah, he didn't throw a single pass that went 20 yards downfield. Yeah. And I think the only one that went over 15 was to DK. Yep. Caught that on the slant and took it to the house. Yeah, I never felt like the Steelers were out of control of this game until the very, very end when Mike Tomlin got into his bird brain shit. And man, I don't think he's ever going to go for it in fourth down again.

15:45PFT Commenter:So the moment you're talking about that, because I wrote this down as well, Mike Tomlin, one of his favorite quotes to say is, we don't live in our fears. Bullshit, dude. You do live in your fears. You had a fourth and maybe a half a yard on the opponent's 39-yard line, and you punted. Yeah. And you punted from there. and it worked out because you ended up winning the game but holy shit mike tomlin dude everyone

16:10Dan Katz:in the world is going for this just just maybe go for it end the game they were going in to score a touchdown it was what like fourth and one fourth and two yeah from somewhere around the five or ten yard line and then uh aaron rogers basically had to throw a tantrum on the field to get mike tomlin to go for it yes and everybody in the field that we saw a mutiny there was a mutiny and uh tomlin was like okay i guess if my entire offense is going to just stay on the field there's not a lot that i can do about it so okay you guys have your fun this better fucking work and then it didn't work and then tomlin's like i'm never i'm never gonna do that for the rest of my life that was also the right call yeah for that because you pinned him back it was fine you you wanted to make it into uh what a three score game at the time yeah so that would have won the game but tomlin will never do that again uh but yeah i felt for the most part like the steelers were the better

16:57PFT Commenter:team today yeah I agree and and you could make the argument like Mike Tomlin was like hey we're gonna basically make Carson Wentz go the length of the field against a defensive line that's been dominating and now the Vikings lost to two offensive linemen during the game Ryan Kelly and Brian O 'Neill and you could see it like the Steelers it felt like every guy was taking a turn getting pressure TJ Watt was incredible in this game so yes the odds are Carson Wentz is not going to be able to drive the field and not only did he not drive the field he had a hilarious final drive he tried to throw like three picks he had a intentional grounding he had a delay of game where it was just he was just standing there i the refs didn't throw the flag for like five seconds because they're like wait is this a joke or something like we must be wrong yeah there's something's got to be wrong it's been zero for five seconds here uh so it all worked out but still mike tomlin yeah maybe aaron rogers can get into his head and the steelers actually debuted their own tush push today uh where aaron rogers just stands behind and doesn't do anything which

17:57Dan Katz:was hilarious yeah that was great he stood perfectly still and just watch he's like i'm not getting in there fuck that that shit's scary yeah so it did do do we feel like carson wentz maybe turning back into carson wentz uh he has become yeah he's he's always been carson he's always been carson he just had a nice he had a mask on last week he had he had a vikings defense

18:14PFT Commenter:that uh scored i think twice last week and and was turning the ball over at will against the Bengals.

18:20Dan Katz:He also might be hurt because he had one pass where it looked like he banged his hand pretty bad and then for the next like five minutes he was just shaking his hand the whole time. If that was J.J. McCarthy the Vikings would have been like get out of the game get out of the game dear. We need to protect you

18:33PFT Commenter:and then we're going to sit you down for four weeks and not tell anyone.

18:37Dan Katz:Yeah but since Carson Wentz they're like no please stay out there otherwise you're going to make us hit the Desmond Ritter button.

18:42PFT Commenter:Yeah no one wants to see that button also we should give maybe we start giving out game balls because that's what happens you know after a game and the coaches give out game balls game ball to peyton wilson because that chase down of jordan addison with like three and a half minutes left yeah was insane and not and like you're like all right well they ended up scoring a touchdown anyway so for people who weren't able to watch the game jordan addison it's a 10 point game jordan addison uh catches a ball has like a it's like an 80 yard gain he's basically home free peyton wilson chases him down tackles him on the five it ends up being 61 seconds more that the vikings need to score the vikings get the ball back with carson wentz with a minute left they might have gotten the ball back ahead of the two minute warning and had two full minutes to go get into field goal range so peyton wilson you get the pmt game ball we should start giving out game balls yeah that

19:36Dan Katz:was an incredible play it was a great play addison you can't get caught from behind like that buddy

19:40PFT Commenter:Right, and Peyton Wilson just didn't give up. Didn't give up on it. Like, had to run a lot further with his angle, and still, yeah, like 61. So if the Vikings score there is three minutes, and they have a timeout, they probably get the ball back with like 2.15, get the two-minute warning. Instead, they got the ball back with one minute, and you saw what happened with Carson Wentz.

20:00Dan Katz:You know what really pisses me off about Carson Wentz in the Vikings uniform? This is probably just a Vikings uniform thing. But when you look at his jersey, the two ones for number 11 are different fonts. Yeah. It's like his jersey is a ransom note, being like, I kidnapped your starting quarterback. It's me, Carson Wentz. It's me, yeah. It's very, very strange to look at. Yeah, it is strange. Too much one slander right now. Well, I mean, come on, Max. 350, two duds. Max, you called it. He did have no time, too. 350, two duds. He did have no time. I'm sick of Max pretending that he doesn't hate him.

20:32Dan Katz:I don't. You called him a mental pussy. Well, that was then. This is now. This is now.

20:38PFT Commenter:And also, he's older. He's more mature. He's not your problem, so you can enjoy him from afar. Exactly. Right. If you're a Vikings fan, you're like, no, I don't like him. He wasn't terrible. He was just – The last drive was just very Carson Wentz. We're just like, hey, game on the line. We need you, Carson Wentz.

20:54Dan Katz:But that's fun. That's fun to watch that Carson Wentz. I do like the Vikings strategy, though. So they're doing back-to-back games over in Europe. Yeah. But they're doing it back-to-back, and both of the games, I think are road games so they don't lose a home game

21:08PFT Commenter:I think one of them has got to be a home game really? I would be surprised if not but yeah maybe I don't know I could be wrong about that I would assume the second one is a home game yeah the second one is a home game the Browns they're playing the Browns well it says verse instead of at you talk for a second I think if it's verse

21:29Dan Katz:that means it's but on Google it's Vikings are at the road team Browns are at the home team.

21:36PFT Commenter:Yeah, I don't know. I'm looking on ESPN. Hold on. Tell us a story. I'm going to count up all their other home games.

21:41Dan Katz:Penn State was great. The knit, I mean, biggest game I've ever been to. 100 ,000 people. Place was rocking. We were there an hour before, and the stadium was 95 % full. Did you rock the whiteout shirt? I did rock a white shirt.

21:54PFT Commenter:I think they're both technically home games.

21:57Dan Katz:Ooh.

21:57PFT Commenter:Yeah. Wait, so the Vikings are losing? I'm counting right now. They have one, two. They only get six home games this year? Seven. because you know sometimes you get nine. Yeah. So one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. So one of them is an away game. Or a home game. Sorry, one of them is a home game. That makes sense. They have eight home games. So that makes sense. Yeah. Or maybe it is both away games, but they had eight home games to begin. This year. Yeah, yeah. That might be it. That might be it. Happy we got to the bottom of that.

22:32Dan Katz:Greg Olson update. He had a Guinness. Yep. And he talked shit about Guinness. He was like, I didn't much care for it. God damn it. Dude, fuck off this guy. Come on, Greg. He's got it all. Be a man and just be like, I drank a beer and I liked it. Do you think J.J. McCarthy's ankle got better or worse because of this game? Worse because he had to fly all the way across the pond. But I was going to say maybe a little bit better because Carson Winston, I think every loss that they have, his ankle mysteriously feels a little bit better.

23:00PFT Commenter:Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. I would say just actually, I still don't understand why he had to travel. Yeah, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me. He just had a baby. Just let him stay at home. You're not going to play him. Yeah. I guess maybe the meetings and stuff, probably good. Being around Kevin O 'Connell.

23:13Dan Katz:I guess so. But yeah, you're right. I can't imagine that his wife was too thrilled with that. Yeah.

23:18PFT Commenter:The other note I had was something about Kansas State. They just get in fights overseas in Ireland because Skylar Thompson got jumped and robbed. I saw that. That was the graphic. Very funny graphic. Not funny that he got jumped and robbed, but funny to just see Skylar Thompson jumped and robbed. Did they catch the guys? I don't know. Probably not.

23:37Dan Katz:There's a possibility that he didn't understand what they were saying to him because of the Irish accent. And then he was like, dude, I can't understand you. Then they took that as an insult. Yeah. Yeah, this is the Bleacher Report graphic. Jumped and robbed. Yeah, I hope he's okay. I hope he wasn't banged up too much.

23:55PFT Commenter:I guess it's better than just robbed. And it's better than just jumped. But if you get robbed, yeah, I guess you can get robbed and not jumped. Yeah, for sure you can get robbed and not jumped. And that would suck because then you probably don't even see the person. And then just getting jumped would also suck because that means they probably beat the fuck out of you. If I got jumped and not robbed, though, I would probably also say that I got robbed. I would rather get, I'd rather just get, yeah, jumped and robbed together. Like, I wouldn't want one separate.

24:21Dan Katz:Yeah, agreed. Yeah, if you're going to do it, just do them both. Do the combo. Yeah. What do you think about Aaron Rodgers? He was talking shit about the team travel. Yeah. He was like, I wish we got there earlier in the week. He left. And explore some of the history around Ireland. Yeah, they landed at like 8 a.m.

24:36PFT Commenter:on Friday.

24:37Dan Katz:Which that does suck. That does suck. And I would trust any advice Rogers had about how to take a trip.

24:42PFT Commenter:Yes, big time. Big time. Should I read the quote that is going to hurt us in our argument with Hank? Or should I not read it? I'd prefer you don't. Okay. Then I won't. Patrick Queen said on the environment in Ireland, It was incredible. I may get a little heat, but it's kind of different than being at home. They were into it the whole game. Every single third down, we could hear them.

25:06Dan Katz:Okay, so that's Ireland. I saw that, and I was like, fuck. That's Ireland, which is superior in every way to London.

25:13PFT Commenter:That's true. So all games in Ireland, we can meet in the middle. I'm better with Ireland. So for one Ireland, you're down? I'm better with Ireland. I would be okay with that. All right. That's a compromise. I actually don't. I don't want it. That's a good compromise. No, I'm not okay with that. I don't know why I said that. I'm better. I'm better. I don't want it. It would be better, but I don't want it. It's closer. It is closer.

25:30Dan Katz:Be awesome.

25:31PFT Commenter:People are nicer.

25:32Dan Katz:Be awesome.

25:33PFT Commenter:Except for the jumped and robbed. As long as you didn't go to Kansas State. Yep. You should be okay. Not getting into any fights. The Steelers might be better than...

25:45Dan Katz:They might be okay. I think the Steelers are an extremely competent football team.

25:50PFT Commenter:Yeah. Because I was expecting them to lose this game. Just because I thought the Vikings defense would cause them fits. But, yeah, they might be okay. I might be. They have a couple tough games coming up.

26:03Dan Katz:The defense looked a little bit better, which is exactly what you're hoping for if you're a Steelers fan. Yeah. Jalen Ramsey, now he hurt his hamstring, right? Yeah. And then came back in.

26:13PFT Commenter:He did hurt his hamstring when he was running.

26:15Dan Katz:Well, that's karma.

26:16PFT Commenter:Yeah, because then he did get hurt. Yeah. He faked it. He did the Hank. He did the Henry Lockwood. And then he actually got hurt.

26:24Dan Katz:Yeah.

26:25PFT Commenter:So that's not good.

26:25Dan Katz:Should we start finding players for faking injuries? Absolutely.

26:30PFT Commenter:100%. All right, next up, back to stateside, where football is meant to be played. By the way, I want to see the Steelers one more time. I guess their next game is against the Browns, so that's not really a good offensive test. The Vikings' offensive line is kind of a disaster right now, and I think that showed true. Not that the Steelers' defense doesn't deserve credit, but I'm just saying Vikings' offensive line also is kind of a joke.

26:54Dan Katz:And so they have to play the Browns in Tottenham. No. Right? Yeah, that's – no, the Steelers play the Browns. Steelers play the Browns. Yeah. The Steelers are coming home. Who do the Vikings have? Vikings are staying abroad. Yeah, in Tottenham they're playing somebody. The Vikings are playing the Browns. That's confusing. Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, Steelers are on a bye. Steelers are on a bye. Vikings are playing the Browns in Tottenham. And then the Steelers are playing the Browns in America. is Deshaun Watson allowed to travel to England?

27:27PFT Commenter:Does he even show up? Does he think he shows up to the facility? I don't know.

27:30Dan Katz:I assume he would be because Prince Andrew lives there. Yeah, that's true. So probably okay, whatever.

27:35PFT Commenter:He's got to stay with him.

27:36Dan Katz:Yeah.

27:36PFT Commenter:Yeah. Under his supervision. He's got a townhouse. Yeah. All right, next up, Eagles 31, Bucks 25. Eagles do it again. They are undefeated, one of the last two teams undefeated, and it was basically a reverse of last week for the Eagles. They were awesome in the first half, including they just block every kick now. They blocked a punt, returned it for a touchdown early in the game. And then the second half, they were terrible and basically let the Bucs come all the way back into Baker time, but then made enough stops to stop Baker time.

28:13Dan Katz:Yeah, so Jalen Hurts was awesome in the first half. Yes. He was 15-16, 130 yards, two touchdowns. In the second half, Jalen Hurts was 0-8, zero passing yards, zero touchdowns. I read that it's the only game in the last two years where a team did not complete a second-half pass. Ooh, wow. Which is pretty crazy. They still won the game, so credit to them. They were able to get it done. But, yeah, it was the exact opposite. Even if Jalen Hurts doesn't throw the football, I think the Eagles could still go, I don't know, 8-9 with zero passing yards from Jalen Hurts. I mean, Saquon had 2.3 yards of carry.

28:53Dan Katz:So how does that even make sense? I'm also complimenting Jalen Hurts' ability to run the ball. Max, I'm actually meaning this as an Eagles are fucking dominant stat. Yeah, I mean, he went 0-8, zero yards. He still won the game in the second half. It was great in the first half. I understand that you've got to be defensive because you're hearing people be like, oh, he's not a running back. You're always defensive. You always are defensive. You are. But I do mean that as a – I think that the Eagles could be around 500 if they didn't have to pass the ball.

29:22PFT Commenter:Max, I got two stats for you. I got a bad stat and a good stat. Okay? All right. The bad stat is that was actually only the second time since 1991 that a quarterback has had zero passing yards with at least eight pass attempts in his second half and won the game. Jake Dillon was the other one in 2008. He went 0 for 9 for zero yards. So that's how rare it happens. Here's the good stat, Max. Jalen Hurts has now won 18 straight games that he started and finished. and the only other guys who've done that are Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and now Jalen Hurts.

30:01Dan Katz:Pretty good stuff. That's pretty good company. It'll be a full calendar year by the time that he plays next week.

30:06PFT Commenter:That's crazy.

30:07Dan Katz:Yep.

30:08PFT Commenter:And then we also had, of course, A.J. Brown after the game with a weird tweet. So are they okay?

30:20Dan Katz:A.J. Brown can do whatever. He's done it so many times.

30:23PFT Commenter:He said, if you're not welcomed, not listened to, quietly withdraw. Don't make a scene. Shrug your shoulders and be on your way. Huh.

30:35Dan Katz:It is a Bible verse. Yeah. I looked up the Bible verse. Okay. It's in regards to Jesus instructing his disciples that if nobody listens to your message, shrug your shoulders, move on, and also that city is condemned to hell.

30:52PFT Commenter:That part's not good.

30:53Dan Katz:So who is A.J. Brown condemning to hell in this message? Sometimes he just likes to say shit.

31:00PFT Commenter:Yeah, sometimes he just likes to tweet shit. Yeah.

31:02Dan Katz:Okay. Just throw it out there. He just wants to get some interactions. Yeah. Yeah.

31:06PFT Commenter:Yeah. Sometimes people just do that.

31:08Dan Katz:He just won a Super Bowl. They're 4-0. He makes a lot of money.

31:11PFT Commenter:Do you? Okay, so I agree with all of that, but would you prefer A.J. Brown to just not do this? I don't care. He did it all last year. He won a Super Bowl. That's true. That's a good point. That's a really good point.

31:22Dan Katz:I got a question for you, Max. Is Nick Sirianni, is he trolling the rest of the league with the new tush pushes now? That was a good one. It's pretty funny. He's doing different varieties of it. He's like, hey, we can beat you a couple different ways in the tush push.

31:37PFT Commenter:Are you talking about the fake one? Yeah, the fake one. I got a take. I think that should be illegal for the Eagles to do. I do. Leave the real tush push. They should not be allowed to do fakes. It's like an onside kick. You have to declare tush push. No, it's just like a – it's kind of like an ethics code. Like, you are better than everyone at the Tush Push. Do the Tush Push. Don't do the fake Tush Push. That's almost cheating in my eyes.

32:02Dan Katz:Yeah.

32:02PFT Commenter:Everyone else can do a fake Tush Push because they can't do the Tush Push like you guys can. But the fake – like, that would be funny if the legal met in the spring and they're like, Tush Push stays, fake Tush Push for the Eagles gone. Can't do it. If you're going to line up that way, you got to just do it.

32:18Dan Katz:Yeah, too good. Do you agree? Sure. I mean, no, I don't agree. Okay.

32:22PFT Commenter:But it is kind of cheating.

32:23Dan Katz:Yeah. There was a point today where I thought that the league was going to try and ban blocked kicks. If we just block. Oh, yeah. Anything you guys do good? Yeah. I thought we were just going to block every kick for the rest of time, and then people were going to be like, well, we got to fix this because the Eagles can't just keep blocking kicks.

32:40PFT Commenter:So the next time they punted when you do block.

32:42Dan Katz:Yeah. But it was three in a row. Yeah. So that was actually good for the Eagles to not block the next one. Right. because then they would have banned it. That threw him off the scent a little bit, yeah. We have to use it sparingly. Yeah.

32:52PFT Commenter:Yeah. Zach, how are you feeling about the Bucs? Because it feels like the Bucs got back in this game. There were some awesome Baker hit. Bucca, Bucky Irving had a big touchdown. It feels like the Bucs only do – they're basically the biggest procrastinators in the NFL. They just wait until five minutes left in the fourth quarter, and they're like, fuck, we got to actually try to win this game. And they kind of ran out of plays today because they flew too close to the sun and it was too many mistakes throughout the game.

33:26Dan Katz:Listen, I think it's hard when the tone gets set early on a block kick taken back to the house. That just kind of throws everything out of whack. I think we did good stopping the run today. But we showed today that you can't just push everything off until the last three minutes of a game. You can get away with that with a lot of teams. Eagles aren't going to be one of those teams. I still feel very good about where we're at as a team. It just wasn't our day.

33:53PFT Commenter:It is kind of nice that, especially when the Bucs play early in the early slate, it's almost like the clock hits witching hour when Baker does a scramble and then talks shit in someone's face when the Bucs are down a score and they need a first down really badly. It's almost a sign like, oh, shit, we're ready to pop off.

34:11Dan Katz:Yeah, and they're trying to run the ball, but they're clearly limited as to what they can do with that offensive line right now. So they're still like, in theory, we're going to try to give Bucky Irving some carries and try to at least establish a threat of running game, but I don't think that it's taken too seriously. Yeah. Because they're so banged up on that offensive line right now.

34:30PFT Commenter:And it's basically all roads in every game that Bucs play lead to Baker having the ball with like three minutes left needing to score.

34:37Dan Katz:Game plan is just wait for Baker to anamorph into a dog. Yeah.

34:41PFT Commenter:And it was basically just the Bucs made too many mistakes. say because it was a block punt but it was also like they their defense did a great job in the second half the only time the eagle scored which was ended up being the game-winning touchdown was because bucky irving fumbled and gave them a short field and they were able to score off that

34:56Dan Katz:yep and also chase mclaughlin hit i think it was the longest outdoor field goal in the history of

35:01PFT Commenter:the nfl yep 65 yards yep zach and i were the only two people in the cave who said he was going to

35:06Dan Katz:make it it was a crazy kick it was max it was super low you probably could have brought actually Max that I'm beginning to buy into the theory that maybe the Eagles didn't block that one on purpose so the league would get off their ass about it that was a really low well yeah they thought that well they thought that maybe they didn't have to block it that he was just going to miss it yeah nobody really rushed up the middle of that one yeah yep so overall you're you're okay three and one you got to get healthy I feel okay I get the losses out of the way early I didn't feel the best about Baker making that throw and with the interception there I think you got to throw that one away.

35:36Dan Katz:That hurt. But other than that, I feel good.

35:39PFT Commenter:Yeah, there was a lot of Eagles fans down in Tampa. When Cooper DeGene made a big play on everyone, and you could hear the coop.

35:48Dan Katz:How'd you feel about that sun? There was a crazy shade situation that the Eagles were pulling off. What's your guys' thoughts on the Eagles having guys hold the shades the entire game instead of just getting some poles to hold them up? Exactly.

35:58PFT Commenter:You got to get some poles. I would have just built like a – Grease them up. I would have put an actual RV on the sideline. With air conditioning.

36:07Dan Katz:Yeah. Or those misters.

36:08PFT Commenter:Yeah, or the misters.

36:09Dan Katz:The misters are nice. You think Big Dom doesn't have a pole guy that he can hit up in Tampa? Tampa's probably actually the number one pole city in the world. Yeah. Ron's Venus? Yeah. The Eagle Sideline, blue collar. They don't need fancy machines to get a beat.

36:23PFT Commenter:Yeah, but think about how awesome that air conditioning would hit. There's nothing better than just being so sweaty and getting that fucking wave of air conditioning right in your face. Oh, incredible.

36:33Dan Katz:Who was it that was holding? Was it just like an assistant quality control guy? I believe – I'm not familiar with the fine gentlemen that were holding it. You weren't familiar with his game. But they were – I mean, they were the MVPs today, you could argue. I feel like – I think they could have been NFL staff because they weren't wearing Eagles gear. They were just wearing NFL-branded gear.

36:52PFT Commenter:Maybe they were, yeah. That's a good call. Either way, congrats on 4-0, Max. Are you thinking you've got to get a loss at some point to get the hunger back? No.

37:01Dan Katz:I want to win every single game forever.

37:03PFT Commenter:Who do you have next? That would be the Broncos. Oh.

37:08Dan Katz:The Eagles schedule is so hard.

37:11PFT Commenter:I'm looking right now. You have the Broncos, Giants, and Vikings in the next four weeks. That's all you're playing.

37:19Dan Katz:Then after that, you get the Giants again. And then the Packers and Lions. Packers, Lions.

37:23PFT Commenter:Okay.

37:24Dan Katz:Cowboys or not. And then the Bears. Bears are back.

37:27PFT Commenter:Maybe. Who knows? We'll see what we are then. I wouldn't say it's the hardest schedule.

37:32Dan Katz:It's not easy.

37:33PFT Commenter:It's not easy. But, hey, they pay everyone there, you know?

37:36Dan Katz:Yeah, just keep winning.

37:37PFT Commenter:Just got to keep winning. Okay, speaking of Giants 21, Chargers 18, Jackson Dart. It happened. He arrived. 75-yard touchdown drive to start the game. This was so mean to Giants fans that they got a quarterback that it was kind of actually reminiscent of, remember Danny Dimes? Mm-hmm. First game, I think it was in Tampa. and finally the vibes are back for the Giants and then Malik Nabors tears his ACL.

38:04Dan Katz:That was a big bummer. Such a bummer. Big bummer. It was obviously very painful. It led a lot of people to start talking about the field at MetLife, which I did not realize that that field had claimed so many knees. Oh, it's crazy. And ankles and Achilles over the last few years. Oh, yeah. Since like 2020, it's been on quite a run. Yes. It's been pretty bad there. But they're not going to change it to grass. No. They're just not. They like hosting concerts there.

38:27PFT Commenter:Yep.

38:27Dan Katz:that's what needs to happen is musicians need to start being like we're not going to play shows at artificial grass yeah it has to be real grass it's bad for our audience's knees yeah and then the owners will start doing it finally but yeah besides that which is obviously a big bummer for the giants they got to be super excited about having dart yeah and because he's exciting i

38:45PFT Commenter:gotta say the jackson dart i know we had this conversation last week but the turtleneck and

38:50Dan Katz:the bandana it works because he's a winner i think he might be a wild boy he's a winner and like that

38:54PFT Commenter:And he's wearing the cool guy glasses after. Not the reading glasses, but just whatever glasses. Like Zach's glasses, but he doesn't need them.

39:04Dan Katz:Yeah.

39:05PFT Commenter:The cool guy glasses.

39:06Dan Katz:I just really love the duo of Dart and Scadaboo together. They make a very funny combination. It's like Timon and Pumbaa, but in real life. Exciting whites. Yeah, exciting whites. It's like Hank and Max together.

39:17PFT Commenter:Yeah. But yeah, this was a fun game for the Giants. They played well. Jackson Dart, like, he didn't light up the world, but he did what Russell Wilson couldn't do. He kept them out of bad situations. He moved the ball, like, you know, used his feet. It felt like he made the throws he needed to make. The offense finally had a little pop. And then on the other side, the Giants defense, that's where all these, like, you know, high draft picks and big-time impact players that they've been taking, it started to really show up today because they were wrecking Justin Herbert. And I know Joe Alt went out, but they had 47.7 % pressure on Justin Herbert dropbacks to the point where Jim Harbaugh said afterward he's taking too many hits.

40:02PFT Commenter:So that was like this was the giant. This Abdul Carter said it after the game. He said the future is now, talking about him and Jackson Dart. And if you're a Giants fan, you've got to be pretty pumped about this win because you're like, holy shit, this defense might be legit and we might have a quarterback.

40:15Dan Katz:Yeah, Abdul Carter had – this was his breakout game, eight pressures. I think he had a sack too. Might have been his first full sack in the NFL. They got some fucking dudes on the line. Brian Burns, six pressures. Thibodeau had six pressures. So, yeah, they were lighting them up. And that actually drops Harbaugh's record against rookie quarterbacks to 8-3. And this is his first loss against a rookie quarterback with the Chargers. But, yeah, the defense was like the real story. Yeah. And then, obviously, it's nice to see some excitement. The only thing I'm worried about with Dart's swagginess, the chain might get stolen from him at some point.

40:51PFT Commenter:Snatched? It might get snatched. If he goes to Ireland?

40:52Dan Katz:There might be. Oh, he went to Ole Miss. Yeah, I think if it's just against somebody that's got sticky mitts. Got it. Some team is going to put a bounty on that chain at some point.

41:03PFT Commenter:Do they play the Broncos? Let's see. I think they do. Sean Payton definitely would do that.

41:08Dan Katz:I think they play against the AFC West. Wow.

41:11PFT Commenter:Okay. I don't know so the Chargers this is just the NFL it's week to week you had an 0-3 team versus a 3-0 team Chargers couldn't have looked better Giants couldn't have looked worse go to New York, win I would say the Chargers it doesn't feel like Justin Herbert's been so good and it's been a revelation the first three games of the season to be like Justin Herbert they're letting him actually put the offense in his hands Maybe this pendulum needs to swing a little bit back because they threw the ball 41 times and had 13 rushes overall. Omari and Hampton had 12 rushes for 128 yards, just 12 rushes, though.

41:52PFT Commenter:And I think, like, they probably have to do a little bit more of a balance, but they're also dealing with a lot of offensive line injuries. So I just give more – this takeaway from this game was more like the Giants. this was a Giants win and it was a Giants like they've not arrived but for the first time in a long time Giants fans have something to be excited about yeah and and Brian Dable is probably more excited than almost every single Giants fan oh the way he hugged Jackson Dart after the game that was a hug of someone who saves your saved your life who found your dog and brought it back to

42:26Dan Katz:you it was a longing embrace yeah it's like we're gonna be together forever yeah he's like a little Right? Right? Tell me. Yeah, we are, right? He's love bombing them. Like, you're going to make sure that I'm here, right? That's what Dable is doing. Dable is going to send him, like, 20 texts tonight. Yeah. And be like, hey, I got you that reservation. No worries. He is so excited to have a guy that could potentially save his job. Memes put me onto this. There was a report after the game from, I believe this was from an AP reporter or a newspaper guy. He said, Jackson Dart was among the few players remaining in the Giants locker room.

42:55Dan Katz:You could tell he was sore. The way he moved from the far corner showers to his stall. how he now stood collecting himself. It was six sacks, ten hits by the Chargers defense radiated over him. That's when Brian Dable joined his quarterback. The two had already embraced each other on the field, but this was different. It was quieter now, less around. Dable reached his hand out, grabbed the back of Dart's neck, and brought him close. They held each other. Dable then walked away with a smile. This felt like the start of something.

43:24PFT Commenter:So that was just written by license plate guy, right? Probably. Like he wasn't even in the locker room. He just wrote what it would look like if I were in the locker room.

43:32Dan Katz:Yeah. Could you put like maybe a little bit of like romantic music underneath that? I think that would go really good. Yeah. That's perfect.

43:39PFT Commenter:It's a true love story. And also shout out Jackson Dart. Kind of nice of him. He kept on giving a shout out to Russell Wilson. He's like he was awesome. He was in my corner. Help me. You know, this has been a crazy week. Good job, Russ. Yeah. Russ is not a great week for him, but good job being a good teammate.

43:57Dan Katz:Russ, he got in. Yeah. Completed a nice pass. You did. Managed that third and long really well. He was part of a win. Yep.

44:03PFT Commenter:Yeah.

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44:33PFT Commenter:Okay. Falcons 34, Commanders 27. Yep.

44:38Dan Katz:I need Jaden back so bad.

44:40PFT Commenter:Yeah, what's up with Jaden and Terry McLaurin?

44:43Dan Katz:Terry, I'm still more concerned about Terry. I think Jaden would have played today if it was a playoff game, but they don't want to risk it this early in the season. But at some point, you've got to take the bubble wrap off. You've got to play. You've got to play football. Hey, football players, that's what they do. They play football.

44:57PFT Commenter:Also, you can't. This was, so this game, let me first say the Falcons, if you're a Falcons fan, this was the first time where it all, it all happened. And when I say it all happened, I'm talking about Bijan, 181 yards, total yards from scrimmage and a touchdown. Drake London, eight catches for 110 yards and a touchdown. Kyle Pitts, five catches for 70 yards and a touchdown. Michael Penix, 313 yards. It all happened. That was exactly, if you're a Falcons fan, you're like, we have all these guys. Let's use these guys. We want to see these guys be these guys. It finally all happened.

45:38Dan Katz:Yeah, I mean, the story is not, like, Marcus Mariota was not the problem for the commanders today. The problem was the defense just got gashed. And the Falcons' skill players, bigger, stronger, faster across the board. Bijan's so good. Bijan's very good. Frankie Luva was the only one that was playing with a good amount of speed and effort. I don't want to say effort, but he was the only one that looked like he was fast enough to hang with those guys at that position. I'm not sure Marshawn Lattimore is good. He might not be good.

46:06PFT Commenter:He might be a little washed.

46:07Dan Katz:It might also be the scheme, and we're playing a lot of zone. We've got a lot of old guys. We're the oldest team in the league by a considerable margin. We've got a lot of old dudes out there that can't keep up with tight ends, have trouble in the zone coverage, and some of that makes Lattimore look bad when he's late getting to his guy. But he might not be good. And that's a reality that I'm having to deal with at this point. So please respect my privacy at this time as I work my way through this. What did you trade for him? It probably wasn't even really all that much. No, I actually don't remember.

46:35Dan Katz:It wasn't. Like a second rounder? It was like a second rounder, yeah. But, again, that's what you need to get younger is you need draft picks to get younger. Yeah. And Ron Rivera, I don't think there's a single guy on this defense. No, that's not true. Payne. Payne at tackle. He's still a pretty good player. But, yeah, we just whiffed on so many draft picks throughout the years that our defense is super old. This is where Emmanuel Forbes would have been. Oh, Emmanuel Forbes. If he was good. Yeah, it would have been great. Right, right, right.

47:03PFT Commenter:When you miss on a cornerback, then you have to go get another one.

47:06Dan Katz:Yeah, but the defense was not good today. The Falcons' offense was great. Everything was easy for them, and they were hitting their guys in space. Zach Robinson coming down to the sideline. It worked.

47:15PFT Commenter:Helped everything. And Michael Penix, like, this was the bounce-back game you needed to see after losing to the Panthers the way they lost to the Panthers. He was great. He was spraying it everywhere. And like I said, he hit the guys that you've drafted in the big names all had an impact, and that's got to make you excited if you're a Falcons fan.

47:35Dan Katz:Yeah, I should have talked shit about Michael Pinnock's not winning a single game where the other team scores more than seven points last week.

47:40PFT Commenter:Yeah.

47:41Dan Katz:That one really came back to bite me in the dick.

47:42PFT Commenter:I do think that Jaden being in this game obviously would have changed. Not that Marcus Mariota was bad, but one for eight on third down. that feels like something that wouldn't happen to jayden daniel no no it wouldn't i mean if you

47:54Dan Katz:look at their percentage from last year and use that as any indication if it even approaches that then it's a different ball game right but yeah it felt it felt like uh one team was really really fast and competent on offense and one team's defense just could not get off the field ever so it's a bummer it's a bummer of a game for me where are you at overall overall i'm i still get jaden back yeah get jaden back let's talk about it when jaden gets back uh i think marcus mariotta he's a good backup i'll stand by that he went 50 50 1 1 lost one uh but yeah in order to get like really excited about this team i'm gonna need jade back out there what uh what about the next week must win can't lose uh this is must win next week must win must win must win at the chargers okay and i wish that the chargers had won against the giants because yeah because now they're gonna be hungry again it's like the the falcons lost to the panthers last week that put me in a bad situation because now this is a hungry falcons team right harbaugh is gonna have a tough week of practice yeah physical week of practice yeah but yeah uh jayden should be back next week besides that i don't know that i can take too much out of this besides the fact that i'm not i don't think i'm going to reach a point this year where i'll be able to trust this defense

49:10PFT Commenter:Yeah, it did feel like there was that one drive late in the game where the Falcons were just getting everything they wanted on the ground. Yeah, it was easy. And it was like the commanders knew they were running, the Falcons knew they were running, everyone in the stadium knew they were running, and they still ran the ball.

49:27Dan Katz:Yeah, it was very easy for the Falcons at times. But, yeah, credit to Kyle Pitts. Played a great game. I never stopped believing Kyle Pitts.

49:35PFT Commenter:Kyle Pitts. Remember, his touchdowns go up by one every single year. I don't know what he's at this year so far Might have been his first

49:43Dan Katz:I think that the Commanders are Exactly what I've thought that they were Which is like a good not great team And when you have a good not great team And you don't have your starting quarterback Then that's going to be a problem against pretty much anybody Yeah, you need

49:58PFT Commenter:Jaden Daniels back

49:59Dan Katz:I need Dan Quinn to get lit up on the sidelines to wake him up Yeah, that too

50:04PFT Commenter:Big time He had some fire today He did. He had some moments. You turned your hat backwards. I did. Because he was so pumped up.

50:13Dan Katz:He was in his day analytics, yeah.

50:14PFT Commenter:Yeah. He was going kind of crazy, which was fun to see. Hank, did you see any of this game? Yeah. And? Where were you when you were watching this game?

50:25Dan Katz:I was watching this game in the Uber and in the airport on the quad box on my phone, YouTube TV. Shout out to YouTube TV. Great for being on the road. Commanders look bad. bad but like you said there's not you can't put a whole lot into it without starting qb yeah yeah

50:44PFT Commenter:you can't it's you need jane daniels back and it was more like i said the falcons if you're a falcons fan this is you put this tape on and you're like this could be the future holy shit

50:54Dan Katz:all these guys are for real yeah which is an awesome feeling it's it's crazy because our special teams were like super fast super physical and then none of that translates over to defense I think we need to have our special teams start to play defense for us. I think that's the answer to it. Also, shout out Luke McCaffrey. Love him. That's one thing. Marcus Mariota has unlocked Luke. I'm going to need Jayden to watch that film and be like, Luke's a weapon. Let's get him the ball. There was a funny moment in the cave where PFT was like,

51:20PFT Commenter:all the haters of Luke McCaffrey. I was like, I don't know if anyone's. And then he pointed out that we didn't compliment his Luke McCaffrey jersey enough. I think he said, you guys woke up Luke. Yeah, I was like, I don't. No one was talking about Luke.

51:35Dan Katz:He heard everything you said. And, yeah, Big Cat was like, who doubted Luke? And I said, well, when I got my Luke McCaffrey salute to service jersey last year, you guys weren't really that impressed with it. I don't think we said anything, which is hate. That's hate. That's hate. Jerry. Jersey Jerry was the only one that respected the salute to service. Yep. Also, Debo. Debo. Debo looked awesome. Great game again. Yeah. So I think once Jaden gets back, he's got enough weapons. The offensive line looked okay today. I think it's going to be a much different team when Jane gets back out there but the defense is never really I don't think we're going to reach a point this year where I'm going to ever fully trust them

52:11PFT Commenter:yeah I think that's fair okay next up Bills Saints Bills 31 Saints 19 this game was actually kind of close for a minute it was a two point game and then Josh Allen was like oh yeah I'm Josh Allen I'm playing the Saints and he had that I think it was like a 27 yard scramble And then the very next play threw a touchdown to Dalton Kincaid to make it a nine-point game. And, yeah, I mean, listen, it was closer than I think we all thought. They pay them, too. It really came down to the Saints had two moments. The Chris Olave interception, which Spencer Rattler, he can do it himself. He can throw an interception himself.

52:53PFT Commenter:Why did you have someone else do it?

52:54Dan Katz:Yeah, good point. Spencer's also 0-10 now as a starting quarterback. 0-10. But I don't think he's – he's not 0-10 bad as a quarterback.

53:02PFT Commenter:No, I think the Saints might be 0-10 bad.

53:05Dan Katz:Because 0-10 bad is really bad. Hank's giving a look like, ah, he might be – 0-10 bad. I don't think you realize how bad it's 0-10. Like, Deshaun Kaiser, he's 0-15 bad. 0-10 bad, Spencer Rattler does not fall into that same category. Well, he's 0-10. He is, but he's not 0-10 bad. Well – What, 2-8? Yeah.

53:24PFT Commenter:No, that's exactly right. I'd say 1-9. I'd say he's 1-9 bad. He should have lucked into a win at some point. Maybe against the Panthers. Yeah. There should have been a win.

53:33Dan Katz:Yeah. Also, today was his birthday. Oh. He said, it's frustrating because we're in these games. We got to close them out. You want a birthday W.

53:41PFT Commenter:Oh.

53:42Dan Katz:And so Spencer Rattler.

53:43PFT Commenter:So not only is it his birthday, but he had to remind everyone it's his birthday? Yeah.

53:47Dan Katz:He was really hoping for a birthday W. But you're right about Josh Allen. I think Josh is doing a good job of saving his true fuck it moments. Yeah. Until he has to use them because otherwise you use all your fuck it moments.

53:57PFT Commenter:Yeah, and he had a picker in the first half that kept this game close. But, yeah, then he was like, oh, wait, I forgot. I'm Josh Allen. I'm better than everyone on the field. Let me just end this game right now in two plays.

54:07Dan Katz:I've seen it a couple times this year where he thinks about going fuck it, but then he's like, I'll save the fuck. I'll just edge myself. Right. And then when the fuck it moment happens, it's going to be even more explosive.

54:15PFT Commenter:Right, right, exactly. I love watching James Cook run the football. He's so good. I don't know if he's underrated or properly rated, but he needs to be talked about more. I looked back through it. So since last year, since the start of last season, including playoffs, James Cook has 2 ,093 total yards from scrimmage and 26 touchdowns. He has a touchdown in eight straight games. This season he started with every single game he's had a touchdown and at least 100 yards from scrimmage. He's awesome.

54:52Dan Katz:So this was eight straight for him, which passes OJ Simpson. Yeah. So he now has the longest streak of any Bills player. Yeah. Good for him.

54:59PFT Commenter:So I just want to respect James Cook more because I just love watching him run, and he's the dreads. Yeah. I like watching a guy be able to burst through the line, and he's got his dreads going in the wind like Dalvin.

55:17Dan Katz:I like that a lot. I just don't like when you get two guys with dreads on the same team. Yeah, like Dalvin and Madison. Madison, then you get confused.

55:25PFT Commenter:Yeah. But, yeah, the Saints are – it's sad. I don't know. I will say this about the Bills if we're going to be fair here. Their rush defense is bad. And I know they need Ed Oliver and Matt Milano back.

55:38Dan Katz:Those are two big pieces.

55:40PFT Commenter:Two big pieces. But they gave up 189 yards to the Saints today, 165 after contact.

55:47Dan Katz:Yeah.

55:48PFT Commenter:That's not good tackling. No.

55:49Dan Katz:I think especially Ed Oliver solves. He gets a lot of that.

55:53PFT Commenter:For sure. And Matt Milano, too. It definitely is a combo, but I'm just saying that's something that probably needs some fixing, especially as they get later. I feel like the Bills, they played the Ravens, that incredible Ravens week one, and then the last three weeks, they've been playing lesser than opponents. If you look at their schedule, I don't think they have a game that they won't be favored by a significant margin until the Chiefs game in a few weeks. Oh my God, the Cowboys are going to do this. Cowboys scored a touchdown. George Pickens. Too much time. That was crazy.

56:26Dan Katz:We'll get to the end of this game, but that was nuts. I feel like this is the meme. This is the guy that's in the Cowboys stands being like, they're cheering like they just won the game. Memes, you know that one? Mm-hmm. Oh, Hank, yeah. You remember that one? Yeah, I'll put Max's face on it right now. Packers. Yeah, it was. Exactly. That's what's happening right now.

56:42PFT Commenter:Yeah. Without Aaron Rodgers. That was crazy that they just went down the field like that. It is. Like, easy, easy. What are you looking at, Max? What are you thinking?

56:51Dan Katz:Was George Pickens just waving goodbye to the Packers? Yeah, I don't know. 43 seconds left and three timeouts. Three timeouts. Did you see that? Was I looking at that correctly? I think I saw that, yeah.

57:00PFT Commenter:They're going to be down three points. Yeah. Yeah. They are acting like they won the game. Yeah, they are acting like they won the game, but there's a lot of game left. There's a lot of game left.

57:12Dan Katz:All right, anything else, Bill Saints? No, I mean, the Bills, they're just...

57:18PFT Commenter:Yeah, so wait, let's look at it.

57:19Dan Katz:I'm looking at their schedule.

57:20PFT Commenter:Yeah, who do they have? because I looked at it the other day, and it's like pretty much – not that they can't lose a game because, again, the Saints were in this game in the fourth quarter.

57:30Dan Katz:They're going to be favored in every game that they have.

57:32PFT Commenter:So they're playing the Patriots. That'll be a good litmus test for the Patriots. They're playing the Falcons, the Panthers, and then the Chiefs game.

57:38Dan Katz:Whose line is it anyway for the Patriots?

57:40PFT Commenter:So that is going to be Sunday Night Football next week. That's going to be in Buffalo.

57:45Dan Katz:Oh, yeah, in Buffalo. Yep, you're right.

57:48PFT Commenter:I'm going to say Bills minus six and a half.

57:53Dan Katz:I'll just go with six. DraftKings Sportsbook. DraftKings Sportsbook, the Bills are minus eight and a half. Oh, I should have done more, yeah. Juicy.

58:01PFT Commenter:Yeah. Oh.

58:03Dan Katz:You going to do it? Oh, yeah. You going to do it? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Where are you going to do it? Adventures of Drake and Josh? Yep. Where are you going to do it? I'm going to do it on the DraftKings Sportsbook.

58:12PFT Commenter:There you go. All right, let's talk about the Patriots. Patriots 42, Panthers 13. That was an ass-kicking. Yeah. A full-on ass-kicking. The Panthers scored on their opening drive. The Patriots then rattled off 42 unanswered points. Mm-hmm. Holy shit, that was an ass-kicking.

58:29Dan Katz:Drake May from the Charlotte area. Cam Newton was his favorite player. He got into the end zone, did the Superman. Yep. Did the Cam Newton celebration. You knew that Drake May was going to just tuck it and run on one of them. He knew he had to hit the cam. But, yeah, great job, Hank. No fumbles? No fumbles. I think he had a basically perfect passer rating. He's played really well this entire year.

58:49PFT Commenter:Dude, he's been – so Drake May has three straight games with 75 %-plus completion percentage and two touchdown passes. He's been awesome. Yeah. He was super efficient.

59:01Dan Katz:Christian Gonzalez was back making some plays. Good to have him back. That's good for the defense. Stephon Diggs is back. Stephon Diggs is back. Big time.

59:08PFT Commenter:I mean, he's been playing, but now he's back.

59:10Dan Katz:Playing well. Yeah.

59:11PFT Commenter:And then also your Marcus Jones punt returning is electric. He had an 87-yard punt return for a touchdown, then he almost returned another one. He had three punt returns for 167 yards.

59:23Dan Katz:Big head on that stat that you said where it's three straight games for Drake May with a 75 % completion percentage and two or more touchdown passes. There's only one other guy that's ever done that. Tommy. Tom Brady. Good company. 2007. Great company. There you go. Do you got another one? I mean, we've got a long ways to go, but he has signs he plays better in year two than Brady did. Yep, that's true.

59:50PFT Commenter:I guess after winning a Super Bowl, you mean?

59:53Dan Katz:Brady year two was Super Bowl win, but he wasn't lighting it up as the quarterback. Yeah, I mean, he looks good. He looks really good. How did Travion Henderson look? He looked good. He scored. Interesting. No, we talked about that last week. I said that he needs to make an impact, and he's a dynamic player. And some people said that maybe he wasn't. Who didn't? Who said that? Was it memes? I think it was Max. Oh. He hit 32 yards. Did he have a touchdown? Okay. He hit 32 yards. Did he look good? Can he fumble? 32 yards. He did not fumble.

1:00:28PFT Commenter:32 yards is a lot of yards. Yeah.

1:00:30Dan Katz:People were saying, guys like us, it's a lot of yards. I said it was a get right game going into this game. And I had people being like, it's not a get right game. It's two shitty teams. The Patriots would be lucky to win. And I was happy that it was, in fact, a get right game. And, you know, we've got a huge game on Sunday now.

1:00:44PFT Commenter:Yeah, I mean, the Panthers have had the worst. We win on Sunday. Oh, what are you going to do?

1:00:49Dan Katz:I'm going to be insufferable. Oh. Soupy. No. Soupy? Not you. Best team on this show. If you win Sunday. Are you back in on that? If we win Sunday, yeah. Explain to me how they would be the best team on this show. Eagles have a hard schedule. That's true. You got you there. You got you there. Yeah. Hank, I have a question for you. Yeah, PT. Who would you rather have? Let's just say that you had a random NFL team, right, composed of, like, exactly average players at every position on offense. Brandon Aubrey. Who would you rather have at quarterback for the next? That was good. Hank's doing well right now.

1:01:34Dan Katz:He's got a little loopy. I like him. I like him. Who would you rather have at quarterback for the next 15 years? Drake May or Jalen Hurts Drake May

1:01:43PFT Commenter:Oh But Jalen Hurts has won a Super Bowl Didn't throw for any yards in the second half But he has won a Super Bowl

1:01:49Dan Katz:He has, Drake May is younger though And I ride with my guys Okay, think about Hank He rides with his guys Even Stephon Diggs if he asks

1:02:00PFT Commenter:Yeah, he's a guy rider Where did you watch this game?

1:02:05Dan Katz:Same place I watched the Commanders Uber Airport what uh so what time was your flight my flight was at four o 'clock no what time was your first

1:02:16PFT Commenter:flight 6 15 or 6 30 and what time did you wake up seven your alarm was going off when you woke up

1:02:23Dan Katz:my alarm was going off so it had been going off for 45 minutes yep oh and what was your thought process at that moment well i knew we had looked into the flights when we when we booked them and there was like none so i woke up and i think i texted you guys like see you guys next week like I'm never getting home. I knew that I was in a bad spot because there was no flights from State College, no flights from Harrisburg. And that's why I ended up going to Pittsburgh.

1:02:48PFT Commenter:Yeah. What did you learn on the Uber slash airport?

1:02:53Dan Katz:I learned about the Uber drivers, how Uber has been charging people more money and paying the drivers less. My driver was really fired up about that. Really beautiful view. Very scenic. A lot of mountains. very very pretty area of the country um you've been in it before many times yeah but i've never done the state college to pittsburgh yeah route yeah um it was nice i was able to watch you know watch the games that's the beauty of youtube was he talking while you're trying to watch he was and i kind of told him like hey i'm putting my airpods and he's like all right and he just kept talking

1:03:26PFT Commenter:what is what did the uber uh what was the total bill on the uber 300 bucks oh jeez i gave him another hundred so yeah when he picked you up was he like are you serious he was like uh no he's

1:03:38Dan Katz:like uh he was a talker he was like i'm just excited to get out of this place there's so many bad drivers almost gotten five accidents today i just needed to get out of this town great so when you got to pittsburgh how long did you have to wait for your flight two hours did you what other cities did you look up uh dc baltimore philly ever think about

1:04:00PFT Commenter:driving back yes and eight hours okay didn't want to do that yeah that would have been tough yeah that would have been very tough especially being hung over yeah how late did you guys stay out because the game ended you just went home i mean state college there's there's i wish i took a

1:04:17Dan Katz:picture of the of the gridlock you know the video they always post of la like yeah yeah thanksgiving To him out on the highway. That was the scene leaving State College.

1:04:28PFT Commenter:Max claims that he was the last person to leave the stadium.

1:04:32Dan Katz:That's a fact. That's not a claim. That's a fact. I was the last person to leave Beaver Stadium last night. In hindsight, I should have just walked. It was like an hour and 10-minute walk back to my hotel. And in hindsight, I should have just done that because I would have got home earlier. But I was like, yeah, we'll just tailgate, hang out in the parking lot for a little bit, and then call an Uber. did that. Yeah, because the walk would have been... Still couldn't call an Uber.

1:04:53PFT Commenter:Was it a crisp fall night? Yeah, it was a nice night. Yeah, it would have been nice. Yeah.

1:04:57Dan Katz:Can I be trustry?

1:04:59PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:05:01Dan Katz:This is a fact I move. This is a fact... It's not a fact I move. It's just a fact I think. It's a fact I move. Okay. I was also chafing so bad, and people were yelling at me as they were in traffic, being like, Max, you got to get some ointment. Dude. Because I was doing the walk where you're like...

1:05:17PFT Commenter:Dude, can I... Can we trustry it? I walked 18 holes on Friday, and I've been chafing every time. It's so bad.

1:05:26Dan Katz:Well, it's like when you're at a tailgating. We started tailgating at noon yesterday. You know you were walking.

1:05:30PFT Commenter:Yeah, but I just still, it's fat. Our legs, we don't have the thigh gap, okay? Sorry. We're not going to be on the chive anytime soon.

1:05:38Dan Katz:No. No.

1:05:39PFT Commenter:It's just not going to happen.

1:05:41Dan Katz:No, it's not going to happen. Yeah. So, yeah, because you're walking all day yesterday. You're going back. I was doing a lot of walking. I was chafing. I was so mad. I was like screaming mad because Ubers kept canceling on me. Yep. I was already mad that Penn State lost the game. At one point, like the third Uber canceled on me, and I just went up to a tree, and I just started banging my forehead against this tree.

1:06:04PFT Commenter:Oh, man. I found out that now. Actually, did that work?

1:06:07Dan Katz:I swear to God.

1:06:08PFT Commenter:You were actually banging your whole – So someone could have walked by and seen you. I'm sure they did.

1:06:13Dan Katz:Did it work? The next Uber did come. Yeah. I'll show you. I found out that Max... He's doing it to the door.

1:06:23PFT Commenter:I don't even... Is this on video?

1:06:27Dan Katz:Max lost the state championship at State College.

1:06:29PFT Commenter:Yeah, he's posting that picture. Also, your butt crack was showing at the end of the game.

1:06:34Dan Katz:Well, that's... The sky's blue. Max, how mad were you at us? The fetal position. How mad were you at us when we said that your offense stunk and then you guys scored a couple points? And then you called me a fucker. I scored a couple points. He tied the game up and sent it to overtime in the fourth quarter. Fact or fiction, you were chanting to fire James Franklin about five minutes before that.

1:06:55PFT Commenter:I didn't say that. Can you say that you were at a whiteout if you were sitting in a suite? We were on the field for the first quarter.

1:07:00Dan Katz:I had such a funny video, too, that I couldn't post. That's why you're often stunk. Well, the Penn State loss. I was heckling the ducky mascot for a while.

1:07:12PFT Commenter:Oh, hell yeah. I'm sure he heard you.

1:07:14Dan Katz:He did. No, I was right next to him.

1:07:15PFT Commenter:And what did he say?

1:07:16Dan Katz:He just kept waving. He just kept waving I was like keep waving ducky keep waving And he just looks at me he doesn't do anything He just goes You're the worst Did you think about fighting him

1:07:28PFT Commenter:Act like a mascot You're bad

1:07:32Dan Katz:You're like stop waving at me and he just kept waving He did I'm going to send it to the group

1:07:36PFT Commenter:Little did he know you would be chafing Hitting your head against a tree

1:07:41Dan Katz:In a matter of hours The ducky won round one for sure

1:07:45PFT Commenter:Yeah Yeah.

1:07:46Dan Katz:Actually, I guess it's round two that they won the Big Ten game.

1:07:49PFT Commenter:Yeah, they did. No, wait. Penn State won that game. No. No. Oregon won that game. Yeah. Oregon won that game. All right. Panthers stink.

1:07:58Dan Katz:Yeah.

1:07:58PFT Commenter:30-0 to 42. Like, they won a game 30-0, and then they lost a game 42-13. Yeah, it's crazy. So, I looked it up. David Tepper has owned the Panthers for 120 games. How many has he won? 120 games. I'm going to say 17. No, better than that. I'm going to say 35. Close. He's 37 and 83 since owning the team, since buying the team. He's got to maybe look in the mirror, say, hey, we got to change something around. I wonder how many back-to-back wins, he said. Probably not a lot. No. Probably not a lot. So, yeah. It's like the Panthers still got a long way to go.

1:08:41Dan Katz:The Panthers are very good at being like, oh, holy shit, I think we found something today. Right. And then that does not translate at all to whatever happens next week.

1:08:49PFT Commenter:They are essentially like Max and I doing a diet for three days and then eating nothing but wings and ice cream for the whole weekend. Bad weekend. We're like, hey, I think we're actually going to change now. I think everything's about to change in our life. And then it flips back, and you're like, oh, no, you're a fat fuck.

1:09:06Dan Katz:Yeah, it's like Bryce looked awesome today. He was in control of the offense, good tempo. And then the next game, he's doing the jump passes that get accepted.

1:09:13PFT Commenter:30 to nothing to 42 13 is is very hard to do can you pull this video up on the uh so the people can see it too we'll put it on the youtube i'd like to see this video ducky you yelling at the ducky we are hank oh that video yeah we are hank okay i have to

1:09:31Dan Katz:we were you say it all day everyone there was there was a lot i mean shout out to there was a lot of awls a lot of a lot of stoolies more than honestly i was i was surprised there was overwhelming amount of... Why?

1:09:42PFT Commenter:You guys are stars.

1:09:43Dan Katz:Yeah, but you never know. Some places it's a little bit, some places it's a lot. Penn State was a lot, and every single person was like, we are, we are. You guys get on the Jumbotron? They're not getting on the Jumbotron. Oh, but you filmed that video. I know. Is that video ever going to see the light of day? No, I guess not. Let's put it in the YouTube. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, me! We don't have the rights. We don't have the rights. It's the same as the book. It's the same as the book. Play the video. It's not. Let's see the video. Let's go back to back

1:10:07PFT Commenter:videos here.

1:10:07Dan Katz:We gave it to Penn State.

1:10:08PFT Commenter:it's there people are going to be so mad when they see that like the we can't play this video the patriots panther we are talked about for 30 minutes oh we we definitely are all right here we go this is you against the duck

1:10:24PFT Commenter:oh you're the worst

1:10:33Oh,

1:10:36PFT Commenter:that's great. All right, wait, play the other video. You have to play the Jumbo Chug.

1:10:41Dan Katz:I think I deleted it.

1:10:42PFT Commenter:No. Memes, can you please play it? Memes, you got it. Yeah.

1:10:46Dan Katz:I think I deleted it.

1:10:47PFT Commenter:I want to see this because I've actually not seen it. You know what? You can find it. PFT's going to do two ads and you find it. Okay.

1:10:53Dan Katz:Hey, Memes, play the original one.

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1:11:23Dan Katz:if you're watching football this weekend you know how it goes somebody's always hungry by the first quarter so call pizza hut and get the big new yorker for just 10 bucks our biggest pizza for the biggest games these slices are huge like use two hands and fold it huge feed your crew and order ahead at pizza hut.com or in the app brought to you by pizza okay uh max you got the video for

1:11:48PFT Commenter:All right, so this is the halftime pump-up video that was going to play. And I actually will say right now, Penn State would have won. They would have won if you had this video played. Yeah. I think that's fair to say. You don't think that's the truth? You guys don't think you would have been able to figure this out? You guys should be arrested for this. Yeah.

1:12:05Dan Katz:I'm taking my headphones off for this one.

1:12:06PFT Commenter:Okay.

1:12:11Dan Katz:What's up, Happy Valley? It's Hank and Max here from Pardon My Take. Today's the day. Today is the day that we once again remind America who has the best stadium atmosphere in college football. So we're going to need everyone to get loud. We're going to need everyone to get wild. And we're going to need everyone to get unruly. Let me hear it from all 106 ,000 of you in the seats. We are! We are!

1:12:38PFT Commenter:We are! Thank you.

1:12:43Dan Katz:that was oh man that was the best one by far there was another one that was probably 20 times as bad the call and response yeah oh shout out hank spilling uh spilling his

1:12:55PFT Commenter:drink all over my laptop oh man i'm so sad that that didn't get on there were you guys did you guys think it was going to were you like waiting for the moment no i was really hoping that they

1:13:06Dan Katz:were not going to play it oh man i knew i i knew too many i had too many friends over there that would have just made fun of me for way too long.

1:13:13PFT Commenter:Well, now they'll see it.

1:13:14Dan Katz:But it's different.

1:13:16PFT Commenter:Yeah, it's different. It's different. This is like I'm supposed to be made fun of here. This is the trust tree. Everyone, when you're listening to this, do not repeat what you just heard. Don't say it to anyone. Don't share it anywhere.

1:13:28Dan Katz:It's not like there's more people. It feels like there's more people at the stadium than there are that listen. It's true.

1:13:34PFT Commenter:Not even close. Yeah. Yeah. But still, it's different. Sure. Okay. Okay, let's go to Lions-Browns. Oh, my God. The Cowboys are going to do it. That was a crazy, crazy. Was he throwing that away? He was throwing that away. The Cowboys are going to win this game. That was insane. Holy shit. This has been an insane game. Packers, they're still probably going to win the Super Bowl, but their defense doesn't look like it's that good man this is bad that was that's crazy backers yeah there's they're gonna win the super bowl uh all right lions 34 browns 10 this is the why the lions are so scary because this was such a letdown spot off a big monday night win uh on the road come back browns have a good defense doesn't matter they'll just fucking work you and work you with their defense work you with their offense yeah it was aiden hutchson was insane he was everywhere uh he had two sacks tack two tackles for a loss to uh forced fumble just insane insane uh game from him what are you looking for hank you're making motions to max max has his

1:14:58Dan Katz:mic on oh shit oh he's chewing into the mic yeah we're hearing the noises that's my bad that's uh

1:15:03PFT Commenter:he was incredible and then the offense is you know it just they had jared offense wasn't that good today for the lions yeah well the the browns defense is still elite uh but they still the the lions have not given up a sack in three straight games browns have a pretty good defense yeah uh also jameer gibbs like he you know wasn't as easy as it's been but he had a nice game even though the browns have shut down all running backs so i just think the lions are just so so

1:15:34Dan Katz:impressive yeah the lines are a complete football team special teams with a touchdown today too yep they they dominated this game start to finish cleave raymond then going kissing his wife i believe that was that should have been taunting it is taunting just being like i have a girlfriend i'm married yeah uh it was uh it was an ass kicking and the browns didn't their defense was great it's time I think as a nation to talk about what to tell your kids about Joe Flacco getting benched

1:16:01PFT Commenter:oh well no actually they don't have to do that so I wrote down I love Joe Flacco yeah and um I why would I make a guess or say anything when Kevin Stefanski can lead the way and when he was asked about a quarterback change he said quote I understand the question but that's not our focus Yep. So I think that should just be our line as a podcast. We understand the question, but it's not our focus.

1:16:31Dan Katz:But I think this is a question that you should be prepared to answer from your children. Right, but we understand the question. I'm not going to answer right now. I'm not going to tell you how to be a parent out there. That's not my job. My job is to tell you what to think about football. Right. But you might want to start thinking about how you're going to have that conversation with your kids about no more Joe Flacco. I just love that I understand the question, but that's not our focus right now. I would have been like, I don't understand that question. Yeah, right, right. Why are you asking?

1:16:58Dan Katz:You want me to predict the future? Yeah. I don't know if we're going to be here tomorrow. Who knows? We might all be dead.

1:17:02PFT Commenter:Yeah, it's probably time, though. By the way, the Cowboys just got stopped. Micah Parsons made a big play, and they are forcing the Cowboys to kick a field goal.

1:17:11Dan Katz:This is why you take Brandon Aubrey in the first round.

1:17:14PFT Commenter:Yeah. What was that, Max?

1:17:18Dan Katz:I think it was like a 20-yard field goal.

1:17:20PFT Commenter:I said a big field goal. Yeah. Not a long field goal. It's to win the game. It's not to win the game because they had the first possession. The Packers didn't touch it? No, the Packers have not touched it. Go for it. Big field goal, not long field goal. Yeah, no, but.

1:17:33Dan Katz:Would you say it's a big field goal? I don't think you would take a kicker in the first round to kick a 22-yard field goal.

1:17:37PFT Commenter:That part, yes. Yes. I disagree. It's probably time for Joe Flacco.

1:17:44Dan Katz:I'm not going to say it. We understand the question. There was a pass.

1:17:48PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:17:48Dan Katz:There was a pass in the first half that I think any neutral observer could look at and say, okay, it's time.

1:17:54PFT Commenter:Yeah. Okay, it's time.

1:17:55Dan Katz:He's not happy anymore. His quality of life isn't that great being the starting quarterback. The Browns have experience doing funerals for a dog. They can do the whole thing.

1:18:03PFT Commenter:He's got to go all the way to fucking London for the next game.

1:18:07Dan Katz:He doesn't want to do that shit. No. Come on. That's crazy. But I guess he still does want to get paid.

1:18:13PFT Commenter:Yeah. It's time. Zach, I got a question for you.

1:18:18Dan Katz:Yes, sir. When you game, how late are you gaming till?

1:18:26PFT Commenter:Depending on the night. The latest, a weeknight or a weekend? Weekend. On a weekend, I'm playing pretty late. How late?

1:18:33Dan Katz:If the boys are on and we're firing, nothing too insane, like 1.30.

1:18:38PFT Commenter:How do you feel the next day?

1:18:41Dan Katz:If I'm able to fall straight to sleep afterwards, I'm good. I'm not the best at falling asleep sometimes. on those days not the best are you ever is it ever hard for you to fall asleep after gaming

1:18:53PFT Commenter:yeah i don't do i don't do well falling asleep i asked this question because uh in this could be fake but someone i think found amon rawst brown playing 2k at 4 29 a.m that's not a good look but i but if they're on a hot if they're on a streak if they're i mean he had two touchdowns today so it's not really a problem do we know that it was him uh it said amon rawst brown he was just walking around and like the guy was like he's been on for this for this long i was gonna say

1:19:19Dan Katz:do we know he didn't just wake up and maybe he drew a little early no because it said that he

1:19:24PFT Commenter:had been on for a while but it might be like marky mark i can i his daily schedule i could send you

1:19:28Dan Katz:wake up at 2 30 i saw i saw the the tweeter like there was someone else that was on too till like

1:19:33PFT Commenter:1 a.m it was very very funny because it was uh his avatar was just like walking around in like a playground it looked like yeah um so i don't really know i don't maybe you can explain what happens in 2K better to us. He's walking around the park. Oh, it's a virtual park. You scroll around. Oh, here it is. You got it. All right, play it. So this is Amon Ra. The person thinks they found him at 429 in the morning. You gonna play it?

1:20:04Dan Katz:They're going to 18 game street. Bro, it's fucking 429 AM in the fucking morning. You got a game at 1 o 'clock tomorrow. Amon Ra on St. Brown. Get the fuck off 2K. Niggas got money on you, gang. And you over here shrieking. What streak you got? Nigga on an 18-game streak. Get the fuck off the streak, bro. Go to bed.

1:20:24PFT Commenter:If y 'all fucking parlays, fuck up. Y 'all know why, bro. He's on 2K at 429 AM.

1:20:29Dan Katz:You can't go to bed on it. You can't go to bed on a 17-game win streak. On that type of streak. Yeah, you got to keep going. Yeah, I need to know. Like, how long did that streak get? Did he lose? If you're on a 17-game win streak running twos on my park, You go until you lose. There's no other option. 18-game streak. 18-1. I would go to bed, actually, because 18-1 looks really bad. But 18-0 could turn into 24-0. True. Yeah, good point.

1:21:01PFT Commenter:Either way, he had two touchdowns, so I think he's fine. Yep. And, yeah, the Lions are really fucking good. And Jameer Gibbs, again, like the Browns have stuffed everyone running. He think he had 89 yards, broke a couple. So, yeah.

1:21:16Dan Katz:Lions are just scary. This is going to be so, so disappointing to our beloved fans over in Europe and London. They bought these tickets to see the Browns play, and with the understanding that Joe Flacco is going to be the quarterback. I think they'll be all right. I don't know. Yeah. We're trying to grow the game, Hank. They should play Shador.

1:21:39PFT Commenter:Dylan Gabriel.

1:21:40Dan Katz:Demetri D 'Or would get people in the seats. Grow the game. Yeah.

1:21:45PFT Commenter:All right, next up, Texans 26, Titans 0. Why don't we just go to Cam Ward for this one? Cam Ward after the game said, do you want to pull it up, Max? Because it's better if he just says it. We have Cam Ward here. Welcome, Cam Ward, to the show. Here's what he said after the game.

1:22:08PFT Commenter:I mean, if we're keeping a book right now, we ask so we own for we have this one we got nothing to lose we dropped a quarter of our fucking games and we've yet to do anything so we have to lock in um especially myself on the offensive line from the defensive line from the special teams to all three faces we have to play together we have not played together this year yet um and that's just something that you know we want to preach about it every day every day we got to do better and we're doing that but it has to show up on Sunday. It hasn't showed up yet, but it got to show up next week. If we keep it a buck right now, we ask.

1:22:41PFT Commenter:We ask. They're not asked how he played. He said ass. Yeah, they are ass.

1:22:45Dan Katz:They're beyond ass. Little bro ass. They're so bad. Now, I like what Cam Ward's saying because I like it better than what Callahan's saying after the game because Callahan just – He tried to fight someone. He just – he wants to fight the media after the game. Like, they're going to ask you questions about being ass, and you have to understand how to answer those questions in coach speak without trying to fight somebody. Yeah. Cam Ward does a great job. He's like, yeah, we're ass. Good point. Ass. That's us. Guilty as charged. Ass. But Callahan is like, our guys fought out there. We fought. He always tells the media, like, they fight.

1:23:20Dan Katz:These guys fight. And doesn't really say too much about how they're playing as a football team. But, yeah, it's not good. Not good for the Titans. I just hope we're getting into a situation where they might be actively ruining Cam Lord.

1:23:33PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. It does feel that way. The whole thing is just a mess. This whole game was ass, as a matter of fact.

1:23:41Dan Katz:It was an ass game.

1:23:42PFT Commenter:Although the Texans did, like, CJ Stroud looked good. He's getting just killed all the time, too. But he had his first, like, clean, good game.

1:23:50Dan Katz:Neither team got into the red zone until the last play of the third quarter.

1:23:53PFT Commenter:Yeah. That's ass. It was big-time ass. We also have some weird stuff. Oh, one other thing. For a takey next year, I think we need sack of the year. Jeffrey Simmons sack on CJ Stroud where he jumped the snap so perfectly. Yeah. He's up there for sack of the year. Other nominee that I have, I don't know if you guys saw this, but there was a guy on Twitter who in 2022 said he will donate his left testicle testicle to science if Tennessee wins more games than Clemson over the next three seasons. Okay. I looked it up. They had exactly the same amount of wins the last three years, 30. So I would assume this year would be the tiebreaker.

1:24:35PFT Commenter:Yeah. So Tennessee versus Clemson this year is the tiebreaker. You are nominated for sack of the year, Mr. S. Roach3396.

1:24:43Dan Katz:I would also nominate Oldie. And Oldie.

1:24:45PFT Commenter:Yes. But yeah, Jeffrey Simmons sack of the year.

1:24:47Dan Katz:And there have been some great ones. Like Crosby had a good one. Yep. There have been great sacks.

1:24:52PFT Commenter:Yeah. So after the game, we had Legereus Sneed. Did you see what he said? I did not see Legereus. Legereus Sneed. So Legereus Sneed, before the game, during the week, when asked about guarding Nico Collins, he just replied, who? And they'd be like, Nico Collins, who? He said that multiple times. Nico Collins, who? So he doesn't have a lot of respect for Nico Collins. Nico Collins did burn him. I think there was like a second in 23 where Nico Collins just broke him down. afterwards when asked about it Legereus Sneed said we all get beat but does he get paid like I get paid

1:25:28Dan Katz:okay so who gets paid more

1:25:32PFT Commenter:technically Legereus Sneed has made more money in the NFL 49 million to Nico Collins 34 million but Nico Collins signed a 3 year 72 million dollar deal Legereus Sneed signed a 4 year 76 million dollar deal so I guess if he's going the total money but I'd rather three for 72 than four for 76.

1:25:53Dan Katz:They're still in the same tax bracket.

1:25:55PFT Commenter:Yeah, Nico caught. They both made$19 million last year. And then I think this year, Legereus need just the way his contract works out. He's making 24 and Nico's making 14. So yeah, technically he does get paid more than him this year.

1:26:09Dan Katz:They're both in states with no income tax. Correct. Maybe does one get paid like biweekly? I don't know. One gets paid monthly. He doesn't get paid like I get paid. I have checks coming every two weeks.

1:26:20PFT Commenter:There's a lot of things that are worrisome about the Titans. I think the guy who is supposed to be one of your best defensive players basically in a postgame where you got absolutely worked as a team being like, well, I get paid more than him. Probably not your favorite thing ever.

1:26:40Dan Katz:Probably not. But, I mean, such is life for the Houston Texans. It was the Texans' best game. By far. By far the year. Their defense was, again, really, really good. I don't know when they start to have that conversation about Callahan. They're probably having it right now. I kind of like the idea of him just fighting his way out of this. Yeah. I mean, he is like the most hostile guy to the media ever. Good. Because he's upset that they're asking him questions about his job.

1:27:07PFT Commenter:Well, he's in a spot where it's like he knows he's probably going to get fired. can't be the most fun to just get your ass kicked and then also have to be asked about it all the time and just be like you're this is where like you kind of feel bad sometimes for the coaches like you get put in a rebuilding situation and then when you suck it sucks but uh yeah he's

1:27:30Dan Katz:he's probably gonna get fired i'd say that vrabel won that breakup yeah i would say so too big time

1:27:35PFT Commenter:but the texans might be back who do the texans have next week uh the texans are playing the

1:27:40Dan Katz:The Texans rip off a couple at the Ravens.

1:27:42PFT Commenter:Oh, wow. I mean, maybe no Lamar, right? We can get to it. Yeah, we'll get to it. We'll get to it. Okay. Next up afternoon games. Rams 27 Colts 20. Very important question for you guys. Can we still say the Colts are undefeated because they beat themselves? I don't think so. Okay. I don't think so. Okay. But they did beat them. But that's still a loss. But it's also still a win. It's a win and a loss.

1:28:13Dan Katz:So they're 4-1? Yeah, they're 4-1 right now. Because they beat themselves.

1:28:19PFT Commenter:The Rams, we'll talk about Pukunakua and Stafford and the Rams defense, but the Colts had Aidy Mitchell fumble going in for a touchdown. We were due for one of those. Fumbled out of the end zone. So that was seven points that he just gave up. A.D. Mitchell also hold on the Jonathan Taylor awesome touchdown run that would have been so sick. I think A.D. Mitchell has – he beat the Colts today. Yeah. 11 penalties, two Daniel Jones interceptions, and here's the one that got to kill you. When the Rams scored their 88-yard touchdown, 2-2 Atwell, the Colts had 10 players on the field. Yeah. Yeah, Lou Anarumo.

1:29:04PFT Commenter:You can't beat yourself more than what the Colts did today. That was a – you just got to, like, be disgusted with how that game went.

1:29:12Dan Katz:So, A.D. Mitchell had a moment where it was like, okay, maybe it's not the end of the world because, yes, he did fumble on the one-yard line when he was shifting the ball from his outside arm to his inside arm to get ready to celebrate the touchdown he was scoring. Fumbled it through the end zone. But then I think it was the next play.

1:29:27PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:29:27Dan Katz:The Rams fumbled it. So, the Colts got it right back right after that. Yes. And then they ended up getting a field goal out of it. So you can point at yourself and be like, yeah, we should have scored a touchdown there. That might not be the play that cost us the game. But then when you add in the hold on the touchdown and then you add in 10 men on the field that they just take advantage of and Tutu Atwell scores, what was it, 88 yards? 88 yards. That's, yeah. 88 degrees. Yeah, so the Colts 4-1 on the year. Yeah. But it was a bad loss to themselves. It was a really bad loss to themselves, but a really good win against themselves because they beat an undefeated Colts team.

1:30:00Dan Katz:Right? All those mistakes, they got blown out by themselves.

1:30:04PFT Commenter:Yeah. And they blew out an undefeated, a once undefeated Colts team they beat. Yeah. Soundly.

1:30:11Dan Katz:That is true. They covered. Soundly. But yeah, I think the Colts are still fine. I think this was always going to be a tough game to play. Go on the road against a really good team, really good defense. Yeah. Well coached.

1:30:24PFT Commenter:And Pukanukua.

1:30:26Dan Katz:So Stafford. This is actually the best kind of loss that the Colts could have. Yeah, yourself. Yeah, they can just point at all these mistakes and be like, hey, we've got to clean a few things up. Yeah, we've got to win and we've got to lose. If they clean some stuff up, I think they'll be okay.

1:30:38PFT Commenter:So, Puka Nakua, there was two things. One, Stafford, that 96-yard touchdown drive they had to finish the first half was like surgical, clinical Stafford. And Puka Nakua was completely unguardable. Like, 13 catches, 170 yards, and a touchdown. He has 500 yards through the first four games, and I say that because he is the first player to have 500 yards through the first four games twice in his career. He's done it twice now. That's crazy. He did it two years ago. That's – I mean, he's so fucking good.

1:31:14Dan Katz:Great player. Rams, very, very good team.

1:31:17PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah, their defense also, like, had some big-time moments where they were pressuring Daniel Jones. Yeah, the Rams are for real. And the Colts, yeah, I walk away being like, I think the Colts are, I saw this as a big test game. And yes, they failed the test, but also they hung.

1:31:34Dan Katz:Could you ever imagine, though, a Sean McVay team doing something like this? What do you mean? Like the Colts with those three giant mistakes that they had.

1:31:41PFT Commenter:No, not all three.

1:31:43Dan Katz:Not in the same game.

1:31:44PFT Commenter:Yeah. By the way, the Packers have it third and 14 in overtime. And are they going to throw a flag? No. Let's talk about, oh, they did throw, no. No flag. That looked like a flag.

1:31:55Dan Katz:One second left? Are we going to get a tie? One second. Tie. Tie. I've just been saying tie this whole time. I've just been... Tie! Yes! Tie! Tie! Tie! Tie! Tie! I've just been saying tie back here to myself.

1:32:07PFT Commenter:Oh, my God. Like 20 times. Tie! Tie! Tie! Holy shit. I never even... Oh, are they going to see? Tie! Tie! I never even thought for a second they wouldn't try to go for it again. It never even entered my brain that they would tie it.

1:32:21Dan Katz:I mean, fourth and 14, you got it. You go for the tie.

1:32:25PFT Commenter:It's got to be a Sunday night tie. Got it. A Sunday night ties. Tie. Tie. Tie. Oh, man. Tie. There's a tie. 40 to 40. That's got to be a Gami. Got to be a Gami. That's got to be a Gami. Let's look it up. Got to be a Gami. Has to be. Oh, man. That's got to be the also like no one cares about your bets, but I would imagine there's a lot of people who teased the Packers. Yes. To one. And then a tie happens.

1:33:04Dan Katz:Scorigami is not loading right now, so that tells me maybe a lot of people on it. Well, the Ravens lost.

1:33:10PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, so he's probably. Oh, man, what do you think a tie paid out? Tie probably was electric. Sunday night tie.

1:33:20Dan Katz:40 to 40 is a Scorigami. All right.

1:33:23PFT Commenter:Let's go. score a gami Sunday night tie wow what a game it's kind of fun because we can just be like well we don't know because they tied yeah like there's no really bold proclamations to make for my time

1:33:39Dan Katz:no I'll make a problem okay that was a loss for the for the Packers the Cowboys won this time yeah the Packers law it's very very clear Cowboys this is dominant tie by the Cowboys yeah and you should to be able to dominate the Cowboys and you didn't.

1:33:55PFT Commenter:Cowboys did it, did it up to them. Yep. 40 points. Yeah. You, you, you guys would agree, right? There's a, there's a loss for the Packers. Yes. For the, for the Cowboys. Yes.

1:34:06Dan Katz:Massive, massive win.

1:34:07PFT Commenter:Yeah. What a tie. I do think that it's probably so happy right now.

1:34:11Dan Katz:I do think the last like four weeks of the NFL and the media just saying nonstop, oh, the Cowboys lost their best player. They're fucked right now. I think that had way more of an impact on the Cowboys than it did on the Packers.

1:34:24PFT Commenter:Yes, I would agree.

1:34:26Dan Katz:Like, Micah Parsons obviously was pissed and wanted to prove a point tonight, but everybody on the Cowboys was extra motivated.

1:34:32PFT Commenter:Yes, yes. And they never talked about Kenny Clark. It's true. Right. The broadcast really, I don't know if you guys knew this, but Micah Parsons did play for the Cowboys. Yep. It was pretty heavy-handed, including Jerry Jones speaking when they had Micah Parsons. Jerry Jones talking about the contract negotiations while Micah Parsons took the field. It's quite something. Tie. Wow. We have a tie. I love that. And a walk-off tie. You should go for it. How can you be happy with a tie? That's bullshit. Just go for it.

1:35:06Dan Katz:I do kind of blame the Cowboys for this tie. How so? In overtime, they should have tried to score a touchdown at the end. Yeah, but they had the ball first. Got to score. They were like, hey, if we get a stop.

1:35:17PFT Commenter:Got to score a touchdown to win. Yeah. Okay. So Rams, Colts, anything else? Pukunuku is awesome. Yep. Colts beat the fuck out of themselves. Yep. Like beat the fuck out of themselves. Yep. Okay. Next up, Jags 26 and Niners 21. The Jags are 3-1. Do we have a new rivalry game? We might. We might.

1:35:40Dan Katz:Some bad blood? Yes.

1:35:42PFT Commenter:Shout out to Liam Cohen. Yes.

1:35:44Dan Katz:for going up to Salah, who I guess set the stage. Earlier in the week, Salah made a point about how all the guys from McVay's coaching tree legally steal signs during the games. Yep. And they know what's happening. Yep. I think he was trying to put that out there just to be like, hey, Cohen, we know what you're up to. You should probably change whatever it is that you're doing

1:36:05PFT Commenter:at the last second because we're aware of it.

1:36:07Dan Katz:Cohen didn't really care for it. And then after the game, they had a little spat, a little midfield spat. Cohen told Sala, keep my name out of your mouth. And it looked like he wanted to fight him. I just want to say, for the record, Robert Sala would beat the shit out of Liam Cohen if they got into a fight. Because it looked like Cohen wanted to fight him.

1:36:24PFT Commenter:Yes.

1:36:25Dan Katz:Pretty good. Although, did he? Well, he also had his hand behind somebody's back and then did not make any effort to remove his hand from their back as he was pretending to get around the hold back guy. I was going to say, Robert Sala, he would beat the fuck out of Liam Cohen, right?

1:36:41PFT Commenter:Snap him in half. I mean, Liam Cohen, nice guy. Liked to have him on. Would love to have him on again. And it's no offense to him, but Robert Sala, like, you don't fight a bald-headed guy. I think Cohen knows that.

1:36:53Dan Katz:Right. A bald-headed football guy? No thank you. Yeah, saying keep my name out of your mouth is as good as landing a punch.

1:36:58PFT Commenter:Yeah. In his mind. Yeah. But yeah, this was a rivalry game. So, the Jaguars, though, 3-1, very close to being 4-0 if it wasn't for Jake Browning's heroics in that game that Joe Burrow got hurt. The Jaguars' defense, too, we talked about it last week. Remember we said that they had nine turnovers, takeaways on the season through three weeks? Yep. And they had nine takeaways all of last year. They had four more today. They have 13 takeaways on the year. They had four turnovers today. They just forced turnovers. By the way, I went and looked it up. There are two teams through three weeks with zero takeaways.

1:37:35PFT Commenter:Anyone want to guess? Zero takeaways. The Jets? Yes. and dolphins yes okay we got a bet for some turnovers some yeah two i mean come on two zero zero takeaways like the jets and the the dolphins are going to take the ball away two just did the cam newton i got you yeah let's go yeah because like and justin fields is justin fields do we know just feels coming off a concussion okay so those guys will give it away right you would

1:38:06Dan Katz:think so you do think so you would think so yeah but this was uh yeah four they've generated at least three takeaways in all four games a season yeah the jaguars it's pretty crazy that's what they're doing they're calling it you know what jordan lewis is calling it what is he calling it straps and ville straps and ville yeah i don't know what that means can somebody explain to me is that gun at the strap get the strap get the strap i thought it was like what like trayvon digs would say get the strap huh straps but straps inville the straps inville jack i like it yeah why not let's use it and uh etienne's awesome it's been very good it was tough for the 49ers they lost pearsall in the second half and they're down to like nobody i think jennings might have gotten hurt too yeah they're down to like nobody at wide receiver to throw the ball to they basically just need christian mcaffrey to do everything yeah do everything which he he almost did he almost did

1:38:58PFT Commenter:And, yeah, they need some guys healthy because this is – I'm not ready to say Brock Purdy is bad, but he probably needs – yeah, Chris McCaffrey was the leading rusher and leading receiver. So that – he's doing everything. He's trying to do everything. You need to get some guys back.

1:39:15Dan Katz:Yeah, Purdy should do, like, as much as he can. He should do, like, 50%.

1:39:19PFT Commenter:Purdy should just not come – he shouldn't have come back until at least one of his guys was back.

1:39:24Dan Katz:Yeah, I agree. Like, Iuke or Kittle. I agree. But it's not a fun offense that he's having to run by himself out there.

1:39:32PFT Commenter:And now they have a short week playing Thursday Night Football. Who are they playing? I believe they play the Rams. Is that not right? They play the Rams on Thursday night. That's going to be... I feel like we didn't even have that game last year that was... It was bad. Like 9 to 12 to 9 or 5. That was the one that was in the rain. And we just bet every over. Not even like a single prop came in. Yeah, 49ers Rams. Yeah. Over under 47 and a half. I'm kind of buying some Jaguars. I think they got some new culture. 3-1. Yeah. I don't know if they're... I don't know. We'll see. I mean, anyone can win the AFC South.

1:40:07Dan Katz:That loss to the Bengals is going to linger in my brain.

1:40:10PFT Commenter:Yeah. That's the problem with it. Yeah. But they got some good tests coming up because they play the Chiefs, the Seahawks, and the Rams. Those are going to be... If they find a way to go 2-1 in that stretch, then you have to be saying Jaguars are for real. Yep. Also, yeah. Did you mention that Kyle Shanahan after the game said he doesn't think that Liam Cohn should be sensitive about it when talking about the sign stealing stuff? I like that.

1:40:37Dan Katz:I like that too. Yeah, he's being sensitive. See you again in four years.

1:40:42PFT Commenter:Great rivalry.

1:40:42Dan Katz:We should make a trophy for this one.

1:40:44PFT Commenter:We should. Someone, AWL hit me up and said that when we eventually get to 18 games, there should just be trophy week. And every team should have a rival that they play a trophy for. that would be awesome yeah like that roger could help meet us halfway you're gonna make us fucking play a million games overseas at least give us stupid trophies that we can get pumped about you

1:41:06Dan Katz:can you can even do like your dumb ass new uniforms just for the trophy week and i don't

1:41:11PFT Commenter:i i want on the record i don't want it to be like classic rivalries because i think that would be cheap in it where it's like oh it's bears packers but now they're playing for a trophy that's stupid It should almost be funny. You know what I mean? Where it's like the Jaguars and Niners play for a trophy. Yeah. It should make no sense who you're playing, but just make that a new rivalry that then you play a trophy.

1:41:34Dan Katz:Who would you want the Bears to play for a trophy week?

1:41:37PFT Commenter:Raiders would be fun just because then you get to go to Vegas every other year. Who would you guys want to play? I think everybody would want to take Vegas. Yeah, Vegas would be sick. I'd take the Patriots. You'd take the Patriots? Yeah. Who would you take, Memes? Bucs. Okay. You take the Bucs? Do you hate Zach? No. I'm not a fan of Baker Mayfield right now. Who would you take BFT? Actually, I think the Bears should maybe take the Cardinals because there's a lot of Chicago people who live in Arizona as well, so that would be nice.

1:42:08Dan Katz:Or the Commanders. No, we have a rival. We have a tattoo bet. Yeah, that could be the trophy. But we don't need a trophy, dude.

1:42:15PFT Commenter:Maybe it should be AFC-NFC, though, every time. Yeah.

1:42:18Dan Katz:I think that's actually the rule. Titans. Patriots.

1:42:21PFT Commenter:I think we should take the Titans. You got the Titans? Yeah. I already got the Raiders. Well, you should want to pick a bad team. They fight. Yeah. Dude, you don't know if they're going to be bad in the future?

1:42:29Dan Katz:They might be bad forever.

1:42:30PFT Commenter:No, you don't know that. It's like you schedule, you make a schedule for a team in 2030. You don't know where they're going to be as a program. Patriots. Okay. Either way, yeah, we should do trophy games. Trophy week. Yeah. Okay. Last two games. Before we do that, Piff, you got two more ads.

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1:44:23PFT Commenter:Okay, last two games, then we'll do a little Sunday night football talk as well. Bears 25, Raiders 24. Listen, ugly win, but a win is a win. Culture win. That's a game the Bears lose a million times. Tough to watch at times. but it ended up the two things that I was very enthused about. One, the defense took the ball away because the defense is not great, but they took the ball away multiple times. Kevin Byard was awesome. And then Caleb's game-winning drive because they needed it, and it was a 12-play drive. He was four for five, 42 yards, two scrambles for 18 yards. Win is a win, and now the Bears are back to 500 going into the bye week, so it felt good.

1:45:07PFT Commenter:It was a game that, seriously, I was like, the Bears are not going to be able to win this game. And then they did the two things that never happened. One, blocking the kick and two, or one, the game-winning drive for Caleb and two, blocking the kick.

1:45:20Dan Katz:I thought the Bears were going to win this at halftime when they came back and Ben Johnson just ripped into the sideline report. Dude, he's a psycho. I fucking love him. He snapped. I think he snapped on that one.

1:45:30PFT Commenter:He said it in the post-game locker room. He was just like, this is culture. We're building culture. because – No nonsense. This is – I can't remember who – I think it was actually Kevin Byard said it because he got a game ball. Here's Ben Johnson after the half.

1:45:47Dan Katz:You need to change what you're doing. I don't know. You think so? We're going to be just fine. But it was – Stared daggers. Yeah, it wasn't the words. He just stared her down. Yeah. It was like, okay, yeah, we'll change everything. No, we're doing just fine. We're going to be just fine.

1:46:01PFT Commenter:But Kevin Byard said it. He's like, we're known as the team that if we get down, we give up. And that was the opposite of this game because, like, the first half, the Bears should have, if they had run competent offense at times in the first half, they would have been up multiple scores because of the way that Geno Smith was giving the ball away. But it was – Max Crosby is a monster. I don't know. Like, he just wrecked that game. He was just everywhere. and killed, found enough ways to get out of the pocket, to scramble around that they won. Yeah.

1:46:35Dan Katz:And they're happy. Also, this was kind of the Ashton-Ginty breakout game. You survived the Ginty breakout. I knew it was going to happen. Three touchdowns, 138 yards rushing. How many yards receiving did he have? 17 yards, but two touchdowns through the air. He was everywhere today. And he does get hit a lot in the backfield. Yeah. He gets hit a ton in the backfield, but he's still very good at keeping his balance.

1:46:56PFT Commenter:no he was this was the game awesome yeah no i i knew i i said it but the things i was most scared about was max crosby duh that's not that's so obvious he's he's he's just everywhere every single snap and if like he can't get to you he gets his hands up that interception the first half he's everywhere and then ash and jenny i was like the bears there was all that smoke about the bears maybe picking him didn't i know the bears run defense has struggled but uh i knew i was like Ashton Jenny's going to have a breakout game. He did. But credit to the Bears defense because that third and one to force the long field goal, what a huge stop.

1:47:31PFT Commenter:They weren't able to get a stop all day and they were able to get it there. It was basically either the Raiders marched down the field or the Bears got an interception. Those were the two outcomes for the defense until that stop. Yeah, Gino had a hard time out there. Yeah, so Gino said after the game, and this is, Hank, remember I alluded to it that I had a quote for you about you missing the flight and maybe being a child Gino said after the game the guy I'm supposed to be hasn't showed up yet maybe that's what you gotta tell people yeah like listen the guy I'm supposed to end up being here he's not here yet I'm gonna start using that yeah we're still growing up my golf game the guy who's supposed to be there he's not there yet okay we got we he just isn't when when do you know that the guy that you're supposed to be is there

1:48:17Dan Katz:I don't know, but I know he's not there yet. Do you feel that way? Or are you like, yeah, it's me, the guy I'm supposed to be? Or are you like, after the game, do you say, the guy I'm supposed to be? Yeah, that was him. Yeah. Like credit to him or credit to you?

1:48:30PFT Commenter:I'll tell you what, I'm using this for advisors. The guy I'm supposed to be gambling has not shown up yet. He's there somewhere, but he hasn't shown up yet. Because he was bad today.

1:48:39Dan Katz:Yeah. And he was bad last week, too.

1:48:41PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:48:42Dan Katz:I don't know that they have another plan, though. I think they just have to roll with Geno no matter what.

1:48:46PFT Commenter:yes i'd say so i'd say that's maybe aoc when he comes back but they paid gino a lot of money the

1:48:51Dan Katz:guy that he was supposed to be is that tom brady he shouldn't take a paycheck right

1:48:56PFT Commenter:if the guy he's supposed to be hasn't shown up yet you're paying a guy who's not there who's not there you're not you're not paying the correct gino smith yet yeah it is fraud he should definitely he's a quote machine he is a quote machine he's got some good quotes uh tried to write me off By the way, Josh Blackwell, who blocked the kick afterwards, I love any of these stuff. He said that the Bears' long snapper told him during the week that the Raiders' long snapper has a tell on snapping the ball. He subtly moves the ball right before he snaps it. Okay. And Blackwell said that the first two field goals in the game, he thought he had a perfect jump and almost got there.

1:49:37Dan Katz:We've seen so many blocked kicks this year. Yeah. Now, have we seen more, or have we just seen more block kicks that have a direct impact on the end of the game?

1:49:45PFT Commenter:I don't know, but this one was a little different than the Eagles, because the Eagles just blew up the middle. This was off the edge. This was a perfectly timed off the edge. Yeah, like when you fuck around on Madden and be like, I'll just take a million penalties trying to block this kick. Yeah, how do you feel about a bye, early bye now? I like it just because we have so many injuries. Tyreek Stevenson got an interception, then hurt himself. I think we're now on our sixth cornerback. Okay. Like our top five, maybe four are out. So maybe some guys get healthy. It'd be nice. And it also just feels like that was a good win.

1:50:24PFT Commenter:That was a good win. Hard-fought win. Ugly win. But winning ugly is part of the game. You know what I mean? You can't just hope that you blow out a team like you did the Cowboys last week who just tied the Packers. No big deal. So I also just say Cairo Santos, who I've maybe given a little bit of guff to because he doesn't have the strongest leg, was awesome today. Four for four, hit big kicks, needed every single one of them. Offense, we had like a comedy of errors when it came to the offense. We had that snap that took us like a lot deeper, some bad sacks. So Cairo Santos came up huge.

1:50:58Dan Katz:Okay, the other thing I noticed about this game was Ben Johnson's bag, maybe sack of the year. so he not only had a variation of the uh pretend to fumble the snap that he had caleb run yep which was a weird timing on that one it seemed like it's a little early in the season to be if you're emptying your sack against the raiders unless he does have the unlimited deep sack which he might he might but it was more that it was third and one on your own 30 yes strange time to run it and then he also did what what i think everyone that's ever watched a flea flicker has suggested at some point to their friends when they're drunk.

1:51:32Dan Katz:Yep. Like, what if you do the fake flea flicker and you fake the pitch back and then you just keep it and run? That was a cool play that I used. I'm waiting for the next evolution, the fake, fake flea flicker. Yep. Where you fake pitch back, fake run, and then you pitch back. Yep. How many different iterations of this can we pull off?

1:51:50PFT Commenter:I like that. By the way, that play got ruined because DeAndre Swift got called for a face mask. I'm going to keep the vibes high and not say that DeAndre Swift is starting to bother me. So I'm just going to keep the vibes high.

1:52:03Dan Katz:Okay, it was the most blatant face mask I've ever seen.

1:52:06PFT Commenter:On a very cool play.

1:52:07Dan Katz:Yeah.

1:52:08PFT Commenter:I'm just excited because this was a win. Like last week was an exciting win because the offense broke out. This week was an exciting win because you had to find peace together, find ways. It was two desperate teams because the Raiders are in the same spot as the Bears. Like you don't want to fall to one and three. You want to try to get back to two and two. two desperate teams fighting their balls off and the bears found a couple more plays more than the raiders which is something again they haven't been able to do for a long time and you beat tom brady

1:52:37Dan Katz:yep and his advanced scouting and his advanced scout that's good i have uh i have an insult stat that's actually a compliment stat to ben johnson you probably already know the stat yes would you care to respond to it because i i have seen uh the graphic floating around ben johnson now has more Sunday road wins than Matt Iberflues had in his entire tenure. Correct.

1:52:58PFT Commenter:Matt Iberflues 0-18. Sheesh. Now, in defense of Matt Iberflues because he doesn't really have a defense, he did technically win a London game against the Jaguars where we were the home team. It was on the road. But it was the home team. Yep. That's fair. Yeah. But he also, it's very funny when you look back because he just won all of his road games were just Thursdays or Mondays.

1:53:26Dan Katz:Do you think if somebody brought that stat up to Matt Eberflus and said you never won a road game on a Sunday as the Bears head coach, do you think he would say? Jaguars. Actually, the Jaguars, it was on the road. Technically a road game. But we were the home team.

1:53:40PFT Commenter:Technically a home game, but yeah, a road game. Yeah, because it is – the real sadness about that stat is guys who've been on the Bears roster for all of the Matt Eberfus years and now for Ben Johnson, besides the Jaguars game, never got to take a flight home on a Sunday happy. Feeling happy, yeah. Think about that. I mean, that's insane. It is crazy. Three years, 0-18, on the road, on Sundays. Except for the Jaguars in London.

1:54:07Dan Katz:If you didn't already have a bad culture, that's the kind of thing that would make it a bad culture.

1:54:11PFT Commenter:Yeah, and it's just like I know that it's just coach speak or whatever, but like the way that Ben Johnson talks to the locker room just feels so different than what Matt Iberflus was doing. And I don't know if you guys saw his quote from earlier this week, which I loved. It was just like, we're not here to be friends. I'm here to coach these guys hard. I'm here to tell them the hard truths. Like they will respect the way I coach them because it will make them better. Yeah. So I'm excited. And Roma Duse looks like a number one. Yeah, he does. He does. And Zaccheaus, thank you for him. Yeah. He's awesome.

1:54:45PFT Commenter:Thank you for him, Zach. Yeah. For Max. Yeah. He looks awesome. Probably need to get some defensive health and maybe another running back. But again, good vibes going to the bye week. Excited. The gateway is wide open.

1:55:00Dan Katz:So, do you have a name for the bye week? Because you had the portal, then you had the gateway. No, it was gateway.

1:55:07PFT Commenter:I did portal last year. It was a gateway game. Today was a must win. Okay. I think the bye week is a bye week. Nobody get hurt. Commander's game is going to probably be a can't lose. Okay. So we don't have to win it, but we can't lose it.

1:55:23Dan Katz:Okay. Did you win it or did you lose it last year? Or did you not win it or did you lose it last year?

1:55:32PFT Commenter:We just bottomed everything out. Yeah. I think that was a loss that reverberated. We lost it multiple times. We let a loss turn into another loss, another loss into another loss.

1:55:41Dan Katz:Yep. This also, it continues to streak the teams after they play the Commanders lose the next week. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So who do the Falcons have next week? That's big. I wish I could say that we beat them up. I'm still going to roll with the stat. Yeah, you got to roll with the stat. I got to roll with any sort of positive news.

1:55:58PFT Commenter:Yeah, you got to roll with the stat. Yeah, and again, I can't say enough. Max Crosby, he's so scary. Yeah. He's just everything about him.

1:56:06Dan Katz:And when he's bleeding.

1:56:06PFT Commenter:And he never comes off the field, ever. He never comes off the field. He's so fucking good. Falcons have the Bills next week. Oh, so they have a bye week as well, the Falcons do? Oh. Damn. I don't... Are we good with the fact that it's bye weeks now? I'm not.

1:56:23Dan Katz:Too early.

1:56:24PFT Commenter:So that's why I asked you about it, because I hate having the early bye week. I like it just because the Bears' health issues. That's where I'm happy that they have the bye week. If they were a fully healthy team, I'd be like, Dude, we've got to keep this rolling. We just won two in a row. Feels good. I just hope that some guys can get healthy.

1:56:40Dan Katz:Yeah, because you come back from that, then you have 13 straight games.

1:56:43PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah, that's a lot of games in a row. Okay, last game. Chiefs 37, Ravens 20. The Ravens are in trouble.

1:56:53Dan Katz:Are they dead? Ravens are 1-3. I actually think that the Ravens are going to make the playoffs. I think they're probably going to win that division too. Oh, you think they're going to win the division? Yeah.

1:57:05PFT Commenter:I don't think that's even that hot of a take. I don't know, man. Their defense stinks. Yeah, their defense is bad. And they got a ton of injuries today, including Lamar. Yep. Do you think that's not real? I don't know if it's real or not. Okay. But I think Roquan got hurt. Yep. I think there was a bunch of guys that got hurt today. I think they lost – who did they lose? Stanley maybe. They lost a lot of guys throughout the course of the game.

1:57:30Dan Katz:Can we look up and see what the odds are for the Ravens to win that division? I don't think it's that high of a take. They're minus 200. Yeah. They're still the favorites. In the DraftKings. Yeah, I don't like anything about the Ravens right now.

1:57:44PFT Commenter:I'll just say that. It just... All right, so Lamar got hurt. Ronnie Stanley got hurt. Roquan Smith got hurt. Marlon Humphrey got hurt. Nate Wiggins got hurt. It's a lot of guys. I'll say one thing about the Ravens. They did figure out Derek Henry's fumble issues. He did not fumble today because he only carried the ball eight times.

1:58:02Dan Katz:Yeah, that did not make sense to me. But Lamar - I mean, they were down fast. Lamar, he contracted fumble-itis from Derrick Henry. Spags had him in hell. So Lamar, he's not like an all-time bad fumbler as a quarterback. He's had some very, very prominent noteworthy fumbles in bad times. Correct. Lamar is just one of the worst at recovering fumbles. Yeah. So if you look at the stats, I think he's lost maybe the - Well, he's had like the eighth or ninth most fumbles of any quarterback that's active right now. But I think he's number one or two in terms of how many he's lost. Yeah. So he's just really bad at picking his fumbles up.

1:58:41Dan Katz:And they're just like comically, yeah. They're comically bad because he's like got one hand on the ground. He's trying to spin around in the backfield. So when he loses a fumble, he really loses a fumble.

1:58:49PFT Commenter:By the way, I found the stat I was looking for. 50 other teams have allowed 133 plus points through the first four weeks of the season. only two have made the playoffs. So that's really what it is for the Ravens for me. It's like their defense is just atrocious right now.

1:59:05Dan Katz:They are very, very bad defensively. Yeah. I'm just kind of sick of the Ravens shit too. I don't know. That's why I don't know if this was a get-right game for the Chiefs or if it was just we have all of our guys back, they're healthy, or the Ravens defense sucked.

1:59:19PFT Commenter:I'm just – is there a chance – and you're right. Like the Ravens winning the division is not a hot take because they're still favorites and they probably will. But is there a chance this could be the year from hell for the Ravens? Is there a chance? They've had a few of those. No, I know, but, like, they've been building, building, building. Yeah, they obviously had Lamar get hurt, what was it, two years ago when Tyler Huntley had to come in for a bunch of games? Mm-hmm. I don't know. They're just – I'm not impressed by –

1:59:48Dan Katz:Pro Bowler, Tyler Huntley? Yeah, Pro Bowler, Tyler Huntley.

1:59:51PFT Commenter:I'm just not impressed by the Ravens. They're going to show it to me. until I keep saying like, oh, the Ravens will be just fine.

1:59:57Dan Katz:Mahomes is now 5-1 against Lamar all the time. And he is also 12-5 straight up as an underdog. Yeah. When he's not favored.

2:00:06PFT Commenter:So we said on Friday's show that after this game we'll have a conversation about Patrick Mahomes. I'm ready to have that conversation. What I have for that conversation is he's still the best quarterback in the NFL and they're probably going to the Super Bowl.

2:00:23Dan Katz:I'd like to add on to that He's actually 6-1 against Lamar Not 5-1 So I don't want to give him any more bulletin board Would it be a hot take to say the Chiefs are going to win that division? That's what we should just do Oh, Chargers lost today Chiefs won, it's the Chiefs No, I mean, he got Xavier Worthy back

2:00:41PFT Commenter:He spread the ball around perfectly I know he missed a couple throws So he had four touchdown passes He's the youngest quarterback to throw 250 touchdowns It's his 18th career four touchdown game he's fine the chiefs are fine they're gonna be in the afc championship game at minimum and he didn't lead the team in rushing he didn't lead the team in rushing he has some weapons back and they're gonna get even more weapons back you know where she rice is gonna

2:01:08Dan Katz:come back and so what's very funny about that is you know who did lead the team in rushing who is xavier worthy oh so a wide receiver led the team in rushing yeah you know they still can't

2:01:16PFT Commenter:run the ball uh like they should hank this this bothers you this doesn't no i mean they're gonna

2:01:22Dan Katz:be fine they obviously heard the people in the media saying they weren't gonna make the playoffs

2:01:26PFT Commenter:they're they're washed the run is over and but in their defense they also heard the people in the media say you should never listen to someone talk on a podcast and that's why would you ever take

2:01:35Dan Katz:what someone says on a podcast true but yeah for for for one more week there they're still the chiefs of old uh they looked really good patrick mahomes looked great they're gonna get more weapons back as the season goes you said the way you said that probably you said for one week

2:01:52PFT Commenter:they're the chiefs of old so you think this was just a one week aberration you never know the

2:01:55Dan Katz:ravens defense is really bad does it bother you that the way that we talk about the chiefs especially saying oh everybody wrote them off you wrote them off too early they're still the chiefs that's the exact same way that we used to talk about the patriots yeah it does hey listen we

2:02:11PFT Commenter:said we're gonna have a conversation we're having the conversation patrick holmes is just fine the Chiefs are going to be just fine they're going to again be there in the end when it comes to the Super Bowl playoffs AFC championship game all that shit

2:02:26Dan Katz:you know they are I was hoping I was hoping prayer game and it didn't work out

2:02:34PFT Commenter:they started 0-2 but that's Hank is now focused on the Chicago Ave closure of the bridge he doesn't want to be late for work we were we were conversing and you just looked directly at the tv and like squinted your eyes

2:02:51Dan Katz:we're mid-conversation me and you i was doing multitasking yeah wait wait wait this is turn off the tv no it's like listen hank show he misses a flight and he he's not here for half the day you're mad at him about that and then he's actively taking steps to plan his commute for tomorrow so he can be here on time true you won't let him do that either can't exist he can't exist It can't exist. Hank, I'm on your side.

2:03:15PFT Commenter:Are you going to run the marathon? Half marathon?

2:03:18Dan Katz:No, not this year.

2:03:20PFT Commenter:Yeah, the Chiefs are going to be fine.

2:03:22Dan Katz:So do you think Lamar's actually hurt?

2:03:24PFT Commenter:I don't know. It was weird. It was definitely a combo of like, oh, we're getting dog walked. Maybe we should just sit him. Yeah. But he could have a hammy. I don't know.

2:03:35Dan Katz:Yeah, I think it's maybe he felt uncomfortable and he was like, fuck this. I'm out of this game.

2:03:41PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. I'm just, I don't know. I'm kind of just sick of the, I think the Ravens just have to, they have to do something to, they have to basically win me back to be like, hey, they're fine.

2:03:55Dan Katz:Mm-hmm.

2:03:56PFT Commenter:I think, and that was going to be what I was going to say out of the loser of this game, being one and three. One and three feels bad.

2:04:02Dan Katz:I think they'll be okay, though.

2:04:03PFT Commenter:Okay. Yeah, they probably will. But I just, that defense is so bad. They got to fix it, like, fast.

2:04:11Dan Katz:The Texans should be a win. I don't know.

2:04:15PFT Commenter:That pass rush is good.

2:04:16Dan Katz:Their defense is good. The Rams, that'll be close. Is that who they have next, the next two games? And then bye. And then, wait, no. So it's the 12th against the Rams and then the 26th against the Bears.

2:04:33PFT Commenter:So they must have a bye week. Yeah. I mean, the Texans and Rams aren't easy games. No. I know the Texans are not great, but that's a desperate team.

2:04:47Dan Katz:You got to win that. It's a must win. This is the earliest possible must win for the Ravens. They unlocked it. Yeah. Okay. Because if you look at this, they have lost to good teams. That's the other thing you can point to for the Ravens. Yes. Yes, they lost to the Bills. That was a great game. Crazy stuff happened. and at the end of that one. Yep. But still a choke. Yep. Defense was bad. They beat the Browns. They lost to the Lions, but were competitive, very competitive against the Lions. Defense, again, still a joke. And then the Chiefs. Those are three very good teams that they lost to. And, yes, their defense looked like dog shit against all three of them.

2:05:24Dan Katz:But I think that they'll be okay.

2:05:25PFT Commenter:Yeah, they'll probably be okay. I'm more saying I'm done with the Ravens in terms of, like, being a Super Bowl contender. I think they'll go to the playoffs, but I just – I feel like their flaws just keep coming up. I don't trust them at all.

2:05:38Dan Katz:That's how I should have said it. I moved the Ravens officially into my do not trust this team, do not believe their lies after the Lions game. Correct.

2:05:44PFT Commenter:I am going to – I definitely think they will be in the playoffs one way or another, whether it be winning division or getting a wild card. But, yeah, I'm not going to trust them. I'm just not going to trust them. All right.

2:05:59PFT Commenter:Packers, Cowboys 40-40. We talked about it throughout the show. Sunday Night Football ties should be illegal. Sunday Night Football ties should be illegal. I want to go to bed with some sense of finality. You have to end the day with a winner and a loser. What are you shaking your head for, Max?

2:06:17Dan Katz:I love ties. Dude.

2:06:19PFT Commenter:We root for ties every time there's overtime. In the middle of the day?

2:06:22Dan Katz:That's fine. I do root for ties in prime time when it involves a divisional foe.

2:06:28PFT Commenter:Correct.

2:06:29Dan Katz:But I just...

2:06:29PFT Commenter:I think you need to have... I demand satisfaction to end the night. I need a winner and a loser. What's that? Tie.

2:06:37Dan Katz:It's a T for tie.

2:06:39PFT Commenter:So the Packers probably – or sorry, the Cowboys probably should have gone for it at goal line, you think? I think so. Yeah. It probably would have helped because then they would have – if they don't get it, the Packers don't go all four downs. Right.

2:06:52Dan Katz:Yeah. Right. So when we were watching the game, it was while we were recording the podcast. And I thought that the Packers had had the ball and punted earlier in that. So when they were going for the field, I was like, surely they're doing this because they want to win the game with a field goal. Yeah, that was a mistake. They should have gone for it.

2:07:08PFT Commenter:No, there was only two possessions in overtime. Kind of shocking that the Packers defense got lit up like that. Yeah. And also the game, it felt like flipped on that end of first half possession where the Packers were trying to get a couple extra points, called their timeouts, got the ball back, and then Jordan Love fumbled and the Cowboys scored a touchdown. It was like, holy shit, this game just flipped. It's almost like the Cowboys, they knew what the Packers defense was going to be doing. Kenny Clark?

2:07:43Dan Katz:Is Micah Parsons a mole?

2:07:45PFT Commenter:Wait, the Cowboys knew what the Packers defense was going to do. Yeah. That would have been Kenny Clark.

2:07:52Dan Katz:Is Micah Parsons a mole?

2:07:53PFT Commenter:Oh, you think Micah Parsons was telling the Cowboys?

2:07:55Dan Katz:I'm thinking Jerry's like, hey, we're going to do this big feud.

2:07:58PFT Commenter:Got it.

2:07:58Dan Katz:We're going to send you up to Green Bay because they keep kicking our ass, especially in the postseason. Yeah. And you're going to be my guy on the inside up in Green Bay. Yeah. Let me know what the defensive game plan is going to be tonight.

2:08:09PFT Commenter:Okay. And then their defense wasn't good enough to get a win out of it, but their offense was. Yeah. I mean, it did feel like one of those, and I'm a big believer in this, that the Cowboys defense is not good, but I do think the Packers defense is better than what they showed tonight because I do think there are times when the Big 12 game breaks out and there's nothing you can do about it. And it's like just the flow of the game gets chaotic and both defenses. I mean, George Pickens was awesome. He was great tonight. So good. Fucking love George Pickens. Felt like all those deep shots were working.

2:08:43PFT Commenter:But the Packers were moving the ball however they wanted it as well.

2:08:46Dan Katz:Yeah, Josh Jacobs with a good night.

2:08:48PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah, it was really that. The reason why we got to a tie was that fumble by Jordan Love at the end of the first half.

2:08:55Dan Katz:This is crazy because it was a very fun game. Yes, very fun game. I think that's why you're upset that it ended in a tie. Correct. I want to have a winner and loser. Yeah, yeah. Maybe Sunday Night Football doesn't have as much to do with it as just a 40-40 football game. Should have a winner. It feels like somebody should win a game that's 40-40.

2:09:11PFT Commenter:Also, why can't we just do the college football overtime? The new one? Like, player safety, all that shit, I understand. But wouldn't that be less plays? Yeah. I know the two-point conversion is kind of clung. The two-point conversion fest is a little clunky, but how have we not?

2:09:30Dan Katz:So the Packers beat the Cowboys because it's a tie, so they retained the win from the last time that they played. From the last time. Because it was a 40-40 tie.

2:09:40PFT Commenter:I don't know. I'd like satisfaction. Like a winner and loser.

2:09:45Dan Katz:I'm okay with having that little dash one at the end of each team's record, and then that screws everything up at the end of the year. Yeah. I like that.

2:09:52PFT Commenter:Yeah. That part is funny. All right, rowback question before we get to who's back of the week. Rowback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo code TAKE, 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com, promo code TAKE. Hank, Ryder Cup. Let's talk about it. Yeah. So, go ahead.

2:10:19Dan Katz:The U.S. just didn't give themselves a shot to win. I mean, they got as close as they could on Sunday, but being down seven points going into singles, you're statistically never going to win that. Weird pairings. I don't know what Keegan was doing. Very, very weird pairings. Yeah. The one that he had with, was it Murakawa in English? Mm-hmm. And it was, like, statistically the worst possible pairing that he ever could have come up with based on the math. And then he just did it again. Just going with his gut. Yeah, I don't know what the thinking was there, but he did it on Friday. Everyone got roasted for it.

2:10:57Dan Katz:Then he was like, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to do the same thing. And then he had his two best. Was it Bryson and Scotty? That was the afternoon of Saturday. That was like a desperation. Like, we've got to get a point on the board. Yeah, super team. So we got work. We did Morikawa in English. That was just like, let's throw this one? I guess. I don't know what the thinking was there. And especially when it came out where it's like, And they said that Europe was using data and doing a lot of stuff with data for picking their matchups. Clearly, the USA was not doing that. And then when they were told that was statistically the worst matchup you could have picked, to do it again was weird.

2:11:31PFT Commenter:So my biggest takeaways from this one was why did they not make the course harder?

2:11:38Dan Katz:Because they said that that was an advantage for the US. But it wasn't. It was not.

2:11:44PFT Commenter:Because it was basically, I saw the statistic halfway through Saturday where they're like, the US and Europe are basically identical in T to green. And it's become essentially a putting contest. And Europe is kicking their ass in putting.

2:12:00Dan Katz:And the greens weren't difficult.

2:12:01PFT Commenter:Right. And they're just working them. And there was no bad spots to hit it. And the courses, that's what the course is known for. Is being hard. Yeah. But they nerfed the rough. And the other one was, I just feel like Team Europe, they like each other way more. Definitely. And it actually matters in this type of tournament where you can be partners with someone, fight with someone. Justin Rose and Tommy Fleetwood almost made out. They were fucking embracing. They loved it. They were embracing a guy coming back from war.

2:12:36Dan Katz:It was, I think, partially that they like each other, but also partially that they really deeply, deeply care about the Ryder Cup. Right. We don't. I think that our golfers, they want to win the Ryder Cup. They take it seriously, but I don't think that they, like, this isn't the most important thing to them.

2:12:53PFT Commenter:It just felt like when Bryson would try to get everyone pumped up, it felt like it was not contrived, but a little bit contrived. And then when Justin Rose and Tommy Fleetwood are fucking literally making out on the green, it's the most passionate moment of their lives.

2:13:09Dan Katz:So I was rooting hard for Bryson on Friday. I put a bet on him also rooting for the United States. And it got very frustrating to watch every shot that Bryson hit that doesn't go the way that he wanted to.

2:13:20PFT Commenter:Yeah.

2:13:20Dan Katz:He like looks at his club, like looks at the ground. Like it's everybody's fault but Bryson's swing. Yeah. Like he did the calculations in his head perfectly. and if it doesn't go exactly where he thought it was going to go, then he's like, something in the universe must be conspiring against me.

2:13:37PFT Commenter:Yeah. They just pulled up to Tommy Fleetwood. That's two lovers, the way they're embracing. Yeah, no, Bryson. And then Bryson had his moment with Justin Rose that was – it felt like he was in the wrong. Was that not right? Like Bryson tried to fight him basically, like almost got physical. it got there was thank god that the u.s came back on sunday because i think this was trending to be one of the most embarrassing rider cups ever it was an ass kicking it was ass kicking we had state troopers had to get involved because the fans were and i'm all for like i think we all agree on this podcast we love fans getting unruly and heckling all that stuff but i think the problem was guys fans were doing it like when they were like about to swing on a putt and like about to

2:14:26Dan Katz:hit a tee shot and i think rory's wife might have gotten hit with something yeah it looked like a

2:14:30PFT Commenter:drink got knocked into her hat is what the the the further footage showed but yeah rory was i gotta give credit to rory i feel like he handled it i know he's like said like fuck you one day but that was actually pretty cool yeah and then we also had the most embarrassing video of all time where they were trying to get us to do a bunch of chants, where it was like, we will rock you, and said Scotty, Scotty Scheffler.

2:14:54Dan Katz:Yeah. And the MC was either fired or resigned, the one that led the fuck you Rory chant.

2:15:02PFT Commenter:Yeah, that was one of the most embarrassing videos I think I've ever seen, and that was what we were talking about last week, that Europe just does the chants better and all that stuff. We had someone trying to hold their hand to do a chant, not only a chant, but also to a song that was a British song. Wasn't that Gary Glitter? No, that was Queen. Oh, yeah, Queen's We Will Rock You. Yeah, so figure out a little context on that one. But, yeah, overall, just pretty embarrassing for USA Golf, right?

2:15:33Dan Katz:We don't need a cheerleader. No. Let me rephrase that. You shouldn't need a cheerleader. No. It should be organic. You should be able to do this on your own. But, yeah, it was a bad showing. Sunday was exciting Sunday was exciting it would have been maybe the biggest comeback in sports history

2:15:52PFT Commenter:yeah it was 150-1 when we were looking earlier I mean Cam Young was awesome Justin Thomas was awesome those putts they hit on 18 but overall I just don't think that our guys care

2:16:05Dan Katz:or like each other there was also some bad breaks too what wasn't a bad break was our putting sucked Scotty Scheffler We made it a putting con. Was not making anything. He also pretty much dunked a shot from like 130 yards yesterday, hit the cup and the pin, and then bounced out, which, I mean, just bad luck. Patrick Cantlay blew a three-foot putt that would have gotten him a point. There were some unlucky moments, but overall we just couldn't putt, and we made a course that was easy to putt on if you're a good putter, and then Europe just kicked the shit out for two days nonstop. Yeah, the Ryder Cup was pretty much over after the morning session on the first day.

2:16:45Dan Katz:Oh, it's Friday. Even on the first day, 3-1. Yeah.

2:16:48PFT Commenter:And then the two dumbest rules ever that they should fix, Victor Hovland being injured and having it be a half match where each team gets a half point. That's the dumbest rule of all time.

2:17:00Dan Katz:And Keegan having to pick, basically, who's your worst golfer. Yeah. That sucks for him.

2:17:05PFT Commenter:Yeah, Harris English has got to see that envelope get open and just be like, fuck, it was me.

2:17:08Dan Katz:I think he knew it was going to be him.

2:17:10PFT Commenter:But I was saying to Whitney, like, I wish I had known this rule. I would have thrown myself down the stairs the first day of our Ryder Cup. I would have given him a hammer and been like, go ahead, just hit me in the fucking hand. Could Europe have just said, hey, everybody's hurt? Yeah. We all got hurt yesterday. And the fact that a tie, obviously they won outright, but there was a moment that it was tied and there was a chance that it was going to end 14-14. but Lowry hit that putt to get the 14th point and he celebrated like he won the whole thing because he did because if the tie is just whoever won it last time gets to retain the cup, that's really stupid.

2:17:50Dan Katz:It is stupid. Just fucking play a playoff. I would have asked every golfer, did you guys win the Ryder Cup? And they would have said yes if they're foreign. And then I would have said, no, you didn't. You actually retained the Ryder Cup. Yeah. So you didn't win. But they took that away from us.

2:18:04PFT Commenter:You know what would be electric? if all future ties in the Ryder Cup, they do 12v12 alternate shot. Try to stay warm in that one. That would be good. Also, you just don't know when your shot's going to happen. If you're the 12th guy, your shot's going to happen on hole four.

2:18:22Dan Katz:If it had been a tie, what Keegan should have done is go over and say, hey, nobody wants a tie. How about just tomorrow, Victor Hovland versus Harris English, 1v1.

2:18:34PFT Commenter:winner take all yeah picture hovland better be really hard doesn't look like he's that hurt

2:18:39Dan Katz:really yeah he was celebrating after he's kind of joking about it what his neck hurt he's moving

2:18:44PFT Commenter:his neck yeah because i know that neck do i i did say that victor hovland needs to be uh we need a private investigator to follow him around like he had a workers comp claim and then i had some european people be like we would have won anyway we would butterfly effect you don't know the pressure yeah you don't know how things go It did look like we had a chance, though. Yeah, it wasn't electric. There was a moment on Sunday.

2:19:11Dan Katz:After Justin Thomas, like Cam Young doing it. And Bryson. And then Justin Thomas. But Bryson could have. He came back and obviously got the half.

2:19:18PFT Commenter:But if he had somehow won that, I think we would have pulled it off. Bryson and then Scotty. Bryson, what did you think about you?

2:19:25Dan Katz:We've been talking a lot about ties and halves.

2:19:28PFT Commenter:Bryson celebrated the half. Oh, yeah. He forgot to shake the guy's hand. Well, he was down five. He was down five, seven in. Seven holes in, he was already down five. So it was a hell of a comeback. But there was a moment on Sunday where it was like, is this actually going to happen? And it was like witching hour into the afternoon slate. And MLB was going on, and it was like, this is the best moment ever. Everything's happening. Could have happened. It was so close. So much fun. Okay, we'll talk a little MLB with Who's Back. Let's finish up with our Who's Back of the Week. It's brought to you by our friends at Twisted Tea.

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2:20:39Dan Katz:Who's back of the week is Jason Tatum. Oh, yeah. He posted a video. He's working out. He's back on the Achilles. He's working out. When you have a star player for your basketball team and they get hurt and you think it's going to be a long injury and you get to see them on video and you just hear him talk in interviews and hear the staff talk about how hard he's working and how much he wants to be back on the floor, it's just very reassuring. I don't know that I want him to come back this year. I feel like he's – it looks like he's going to. Has Brad Stevens said anything about it? They just do the coach speak like we're going to try to get it back as soon as we can, but we don't want to rush it.

2:21:16PFT Commenter:It was kind of shocking to see him running up and down the court. Yeah. Like, holy shit, he just tore his Achilles.

2:21:22Dan Katz:Yeah.

2:21:23PFT Commenter:So you think he's going to play?

2:21:25Dan Katz:this year i don't know i hope he doesn't but i feel like he really wants to yeah so he's working out six days a week i think what's going to happen is he's going to continue to put up all these workout videos and then you're going to think the whole year like maybe we'll get him back for the playoffs and then he won't come back i'd be fine with that though i don't want to i definitely you don't want to rush it it's a long game yeah yeah i feel like you got to tell him at the start Hey, no matter what, you're not playing this year. Yeah.

2:21:54PFT Commenter:Well, happy for you, Hank. Very happy. Yeah.

2:21:56Dan Katz:Thank you.

2:21:57PFT Commenter:PFT, your Who's Back of the Week?

2:21:58Dan Katz:My Who's Back of the Week is growing the game. Oh. Developing the international audience for the NFL. Hank, you'll like this. Super Bowl halftime show. Oh, yeah. Bad Bunny. Bad Bunny. And now I'm just addicted to saying every name like Bad Bunny. Bad Bunny. Bad Bunny rips. I don't know. The people that don't like Bad Bunny.

2:22:19PFT Commenter:Well, you got to remember the Super Bowl halftime show is going to be. I mean, it's Twitter, so it's like a small echo chamber. But there's a lot of people who watch football that probably don't know who Bad Bunny is and want it to be Aerosmith or, you know, the Rolling Stones. It's not. Metallica would have ripped. Yeah. So they're going to just be like, this sucks. And it's like, I don't give a fuck. I'm going to watch football. Super Bowl halftime show. I don't really care. I'll say it. I do not care.

2:22:48Dan Katz:Yeah, it's important to me because I like to see how it's being satanic. Yeah. I like to wake up the next day and be like, hey, here's what the NFL was trying to message you during the halftime show and read all those. Because those are some of the most schizophrenic people on planet Earth. And I love taking a dip into their brains. But yeah, I do not watch the Super Bowl for the halftime show. Right. I'll say it.

2:23:08PFT Commenter:If you have a hot take, a really strong opinion about the Super Bowl halftime show, you're not a fucking football guy. You showed yourself. That's the best. You're inglorious bastards doing the three.

2:23:21Dan Katz:You got to watch film at halftime. Yeah. You got to figure out what to bet in the second half. Right. Bad Bunny. Anyone who's pissed off, guess what? You don't like football. You're anti-football pussy. It is addictive to say Bad Bunny. Bad Bunny. There's a lot of quarterbacks that you can do to Bad Bunny. Josh Allen.

2:23:36PFT Commenter:Josh Allen.

2:23:37Dan Katz:Mike Panix. Mike Panix.

2:23:40PFT Commenter:Yeah, so Bad Bunny.

2:23:41Dan Katz:Bad Bunny. He's back. He's back. I was hoping for Metallica. I thought Metallica would have been a good choice. It is like they're part of the world, so that would have been cool to see them play there. I was also thinking maybe Miley would have been great. I think everybody would have loved Miley. Yeah, Miley would have been sick. But, yeah, Taylor Swift, that would have been – the NFL doesn't want to make it that obvious that they're rigging everything for the Chiefs. Yeah, because didn't you say the Easter eggs were saying that she was going to be it? The Easter eggs. Well, there were a lot of Easter eggs that were saying that she was pointing to the number whatever it was, 60?

2:24:13Dan Katz:I forget.

2:24:13PFT Commenter:So what happens to everyone who did the Easter eggs and said that she's 100 % doing the halftime show? There should be a penalty.

2:24:20Dan Katz:Well, it's like the people that predicted the rapture.

2:24:22PFT Commenter:Yeah, you wasted our time.

2:24:23Dan Katz:Gotta kill yourself.

2:24:24PFT Commenter:Yeah, kill yourself. You wasted our time. Because that was a big thing. All the way she talked about it, the clock behind her, the numbers. You wasted our time.

2:24:35Dan Katz:Yeah. Not everything's a thing.

2:24:38PFT Commenter:But sometimes you try to make it a thing. Yeah. All right. My who's back of the week is playoff baseball. Boys, it's time. Season ended. We had a wild end of the season. So the big story, I would say, is the Guardians and what they did in the last month and a half of the season. The Guardians won the AL Central with a walk-off home run, which they didn't even need to win, but it was kind of awesome that they did that. But the Guardians were at one point on July 6th, they were 40 and 48. They had lost 10 in a row and they were 15 and a half games back from the Tigers. And you're like, well, that's July 6th.

2:25:22PFT Commenter:That's a really long time ago. Yeah, of course. They were under 500 until August 26th. Okay? They were 10 games back then. They were nine and a half games back on September 10th, I believe. It's insane what they did, and the Tigers, obviously, they fell apart. The Tigers, from August 23rd to the end of the season, the Tigers went 9-22. The Guardians, from August 26th to the end of the season, went 23-8. It was insane. So, what a season. Guardians also have to be pumped that they're playing against the Tigers. Yeah, and they're playing at home against the Tigers. It also probably will ruin a few fan bases and general managers going into the future when they're 15 and a half games back.

2:26:07PFT Commenter:And they're like, we're still in this. Remember the Guardians? Yep. Because imagine, think about this. Not only the fact that they, because they had already clinched the playoffs, I think it was like two days ago, three days ago. But the fact they won the AL Central now emboldens every general manager because it wouldn't have been as cool to be like, hey, remember when the Guardians were 15 and a half games back and they made the wild card? They get to just be like, wait, my formula is about to kick in.

2:26:30Dan Katz:Yeah, now they get to say. Trust the process. The stats. The numbers work. Yeah, they're 15 and a half back, and they won the division. Yeah. That's crazy. Things are about to regress to the mean. My stats are going to get us to the playoffs. Just hang on.

2:26:42PFT Commenter:And then the other one, the Mets. Memes. The Mets, at one point, had the best record in baseball. They were 45 and 24. They were 9 and 15 in September. They ended up 83 and 79. 45 and 24 to 83 and 79. And credit to the Reds. I'm happy for the Reds. The Reds haven't been in the playoffs since 2013. So, awesome, awesome story for them. Jeff Passan told you. Yep, Jeff Passan, who we'll get on later this week. He told us on Pardon My Take that they were the dark horse. Also, did you see Terry Francona? I think it was Friday. Maybe it was Thursday. He said he got to the park. They had a night game.

2:27:23PFT Commenter:He got to the park at 945 in the morning and got in full uniform. He's just so jacked up for baseball.

2:27:28Dan Katz:That's the baseball man in him.

2:27:29PFT Commenter:He's just like, what else am I going to do? There's nobody more baseball than Terry Francona. Yeah, so Reds awesome story. Mets, memes. What do you got? This is also -

2:27:40Dan Katz:Reds aren't really an awesome story. They lost today. The Mets are just a bunch of spineless pussies, and they just couldn't get it done. Oh, damn. But that's cool for the Reds. Yeah, good for the Reds. Good for the Reds. No, good for the Reds. Good for the Reds. The Reds are - They're going to get their teeth kicked in by a Dodgers.

2:27:54PFT Commenter:Okay, the Reds are a small market team. The Mets spent so much fucking money, and Steve Cohen said he promised a World Series in three to five years.

2:28:04Dan Katz:No, he said he'd be disappointed if they didn't win one. So is he disappointed? Oh, yeah. I hope he goes on a rage spending spree. He's going to spin his way out of this. I hope so.

2:28:15PFT Commenter:The Mets also finished the season 0-67 when trailing after eight innings.

2:28:20Dan Katz:That's a crazy stat. The first time I heard it, I was like, that's a Frank stat. Yeah. And it is a Frank stat, but it's actually the rare Frank stat that's also true. Yeah. And Pete Alonzo was out the door before the game ended. Oh, yeah.

2:28:31PFT Commenter:I was shocked when I saw that.

2:28:33Dan Katz:He's out. Yeah, he's a free agent again. He's opting out, right? Yeah. Opting out of his contract. Good chance he comes back? I would say there is a good chance, but you never know. I heard you guys were signing Josh Bell. That's what Frank said. I don't think that's true. But Frank's been on a heater recently.

2:28:52PFT Commenter:Yeah, Frank was right. Say Frank was right.

2:28:54Dan Katz:He told me this team sucked even when they were good.

2:28:56PFT Commenter:Say Frank was right. Yeah, Frank was right. Okay. So we have Guardians hosting the Tigers. Yankees hosting the Red Sox. Exciting. You excited? Oh, yeah. The Cubs are hosting the Padres. Exciting for that one. And the Dodgers are hosting the Reds. Hank, who are you rooting for? Your Padres? Sox and Pods. Your big San Diego guy. Yeah. So we'll be doing late shows to recap the games. I'm going to go to – I'm very excited to go to playoff baseball regularly again. I caught a foul ball. Yeah, that's awesome. Off my chin. Yeah, not as awesome, but still. Still awesome. Did you have a glove? I did not have a glove.

2:29:36PFT Commenter:Did it land, like, in your seat? It landed. So my kids – I was at the game on Friday. I took my kids to the game on Friday because they were – like, CPS had a teacher day or whatever. So they didn't have school. So I took them to the game. My kids were getting ice cream with my wife at the time. It would have hit right. It would have like direct shot on my son's brain. And I missed the ball, so I would have been liable. Did you keep the ball? I gave it to my kids. Okay.

2:30:07Dan Katz:Yeah. Good.

2:30:08PFT Commenter:Yeah. Actually, I gave it. My kids' friends were there too. And then one of those kids might have started crying, so I gave it to him.

2:30:17Dan Katz:so they have to they have shared custody of the ball yeah nights and weekends yeah well my kids

2:30:22PFT Commenter:have have gotten a couple balls to like get like tossed to them um but yeah it was cool i have the i have the video i did a uh i did a really good job of uh holding it up like i caught it really quickly because i didn't catch it so like i wanted to you know what i mean people to think yeah yeah like everyone's like oh shit he caught it oh that ball didn't hit him on the chin yeah It hit right on my chin. It was thrilling, though.

2:30:49Dan Katz:I've never had a ball even hit close to me. Did you go back and try to find the game feed to see if it caught you? No, I'm going to send it to Max right now.

2:30:58PFT Commenter:Dom sent it to me right away. Oh, it's the actual game feed? Yeah, the game feed. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I should have made a better play, but I also never had a ball even come close to me. And also, my seats are close to the net, so I've never seen a ball hit in where my seats are. Right. So when it started happening, I was like, holy shit, is this coming to me? Here it is.

2:31:21PFT Commenter:There you go. And then I was like, I got it. Yeah. There was a clear reach down there. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I missed it. It hit the ground, hit my chin, and then I got it.

2:31:33Dan Katz:That's what I love about Wrigley is they'll, like, boo you if you drop a foul ball. Oh, people were pumped for me.

2:31:39PFT Commenter:And the guys next to me were like, shit, we should have gone for it.

2:31:41Dan Katz:Because to me, that doesn't look like a drop. That just looks like a landed found. Right. Yeah.

2:31:47PFT Commenter:Right.

2:31:47Dan Katz:No, it hit my hand on the way down.

2:31:50PFT Commenter:I'll fully admit that. I think I was so shocked that it was coming to me that I just didn't even think about it. You're into the sun, though. Yeah. Tough play. Yeah, it was tough. Yeah, you're right. Tough play. You're right. Right. But yeah, that was cool. But I'm excited for playoff baseball. I'm very excited. Baseball's going to be fucking awesome.

2:32:05Dan Katz:Max, how are you feeling about the Phillies? About the Titans? We'll see. We have a bye.

2:32:12PFT Commenter:You're the biggest Reds fan there is. I will be rooting for the Reds this week, correct? Yes. Very hard for the Reds.

2:32:18Dan Katz:I will be rooting for the Reds this week. Dodgers are good. I mean, we kind of own the Dodgers, but the Dodgers, you know, their roster is just so stacked. And Shohei is pitching like the best pitcher in baseball right now, which is so scary. It's not fair. Are you afraid of the Brewers at all? That's so far down the line. Like, playoff baseball. It could be one series. But there's There's another series The Phillies aren't playing yet So I'm worried about the Reds-Dodgers series Then I'm worried about the Series that we play of the winner of that And then potentially I'm worried about the Brewers Like the Brewers still have to get there The Phillies have to get there, Brewers have to get there I could be worried about the Pods or the Cubs By that point Right now priority number one Dodgers-Reds Rooting for the Reds

2:33:07PFT Commenter:Rooting for the Reds. And then... I mean, the Cubs had a winning record against Brewers this year. Cade Horton is hurt, which is very bad. But yeah, when we played the Brewers tough.

2:33:20Dan Katz:Yeah, the Brewers swept us, I think, back in May. And then we won two out of three this past month. So, like, we can beat the Brewers. Also, shout out to the Mariners getting a bye. Oh, yeah. Good for them. I'm happy for Seattle.

2:33:34PFT Commenter:Very weird that they were finishing the season against the Dodgers.

2:33:36Dan Katz:Yes, a very cursed sports town, but you can't help but root for the Mariners.

2:33:41PFT Commenter:Yeah, Cal Raleigh. He's our guy. We're going to try to get him on again before the playoffs start. So, big dumper. Zach, you finished us off with a who's back of the week?

2:33:50Dan Katz:My who's back of the week is Zion Williamson. Zion Williamson has completed the Luka diet and looks like he lost an entire Zion.

2:33:57PFT Commenter:Yeah, he does.

2:33:58Dan Katz:He looks fantastic. So, here's the problem, though, with Zion doing this.

2:34:03PFT Commenter:What if he's not good? I think he's good right but what if he's not because then he doesn't have the he just needs to lose a little weight

2:34:12Dan Katz:I mean they always say you can't pull fat right yeah but he was he figured out he looks awesome but I'm just saying

2:34:19PFT Commenter:do you see what I'm saying when you get when he gets in the best shape of his life he's got to be good and not get injured he looks like a different guy he played well

2:34:32Dan Katz:before he was getting hurt and stuff But I think he's going to be good. But also a big part of his game is throwing his body weight around. Yeah, fat ass.

2:34:41PFT Commenter:Wow, yeah, he does look a completely different guy.

2:34:44Dan Katz:Like if things don't go well for Zion in the first couple months, he might just say, I got to get fat again. Yeah, right, that's what I'm saying. That's a super easy city to do it in. Good for Zion. I said that about Jordan Davis like week one, that people were running the ball in the Eagles, and I was like, he's got to get fat again. Yeah, right. And he is playing the best football of his career. But week one, I was like, he needs to be fat. You think Zion was on an Olympic?

2:35:07PFT Commenter:No, because you can't. I think maybe. But then would he lose muscle?

2:35:14Dan Katz:Athletes got different drugs. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, you're right.

2:35:17PFT Commenter:You're right. Any other stories from Happy Valley? The boys had a good weekend?

2:35:23Dan Katz:Talked to Russell on the phone today. I wasn't expecting that in the Uber. He just called me. Talk NFL? Well, he thought he was doing the thing that he does to you. He's like, I was like, I'm out with Big Cat, though. He's like, oh. The Patriots scored. It was like right after, you know, I was watching them run the pun return back, and he called me. I was like, hello? He's like, hey, what are you doing?

2:35:42PFT Commenter:Yeah, because I don't know if I said this on, I think I said it to Chris Long. Did I say it here? You said it in the gambling cave. Yeah, week one at 11.59 Central Time, Rasilo called me, and I picked up. And I felt like such a fucking idiot because he just goes, what are you doing right now? I was like god fucking damn it He got me So he tried to do that to you And you were like I missed a flight Yeah I was like I'm in an Uber to Pittsburgh

2:36:13PFT Commenter:I guess we'll talk college football on Wednesday But James Franklin can't win the big one

2:36:18Dan Katz:Nope Drew Aller just loves Any games with interceptions Are you all the way out on Drew

2:36:26PFT Commenter:Shout out the guy Let me find who sent it to me It was a great idea. This is actually why Max started calling me a fucker, which is a hilarious insult. Shout out John Collins, Collins4820. He said, we need a clock, a big game for Penn State where we think they'll win it this time. So we need a clock that just basically is a countdown to their game against Ohio State. And then whatever big games after that, and after that, and after that, they can't win the big one. It's the same game every year.

2:36:58Dan Katz:Same exact game. It's gotten to the point where it's no longer a good thing to have where your team is dominant outside of the big ones. Yeah. They should have gone for two. You've been right there for two. Yeah, they should have gone for two.

2:37:09PFT Commenter:It was actually funny because when we were on Saturday night, it was basically we were just watching the same thing that we've watched every time between James Franklin not being able to win a big one and Kirby Smart not being able to beat Alabama. Yeah.

2:37:23Dan Katz:It was basically just like we've seen both of these games a million times. Yeah, it was a flashback. Also, can we just go ahead and delete the podcast where we said Alabama was completely dead? Well, that was Brandon Walker. That program was ruined. That was Brandon Walker. We did a Brandon Walker light. Yeah, although I had come around on – I watched back some of that Florida State game,

2:37:43PFT Commenter:and I was like, they didn't get beat like we thought they got beat. But they got shoved around. They did, but they were down seven in the fourth quarter, and they got a bad penalty that kind of ended the game. You know what?

2:37:53Dan Katz:I'm actually not going to give up on that take that Alabama's dead. Well, you can't now because Alabama always beats Georgia. Yeah. Right, memes? Yeah, we got their number.

2:38:04PFT Commenter:Except in that national championship. Except in the national championship, but then also Alabama beat Georgia in the national championship. Yeah. Memes quit. You should have kicked a field goal there, but that's whatever. Yeah. Score prediction for tomorrow night, Jets-Dolphins.

2:38:19Dan Katz:I don't know.

2:38:20PFT Commenter:I'm pretty positive. Oh, fuck.

2:38:23Dan Katz:You.

2:38:25PFT Commenter:How'd you fall for that?

2:38:26Dan Katz:I don't know. Who misses a flight at 35? Not me. Are you...

2:38:33PFT Commenter:Because you're not 35? Yeah. But you will.

2:38:36Dan Katz:No. Yeah, you will. That's not the last flight you missed. No. That man hasn't shown up yet. You're either a missed flight guy or you're not.

2:38:44PFT Commenter:You act like you've never fucking... I've never missed a flight. Yeah, you didn't. When? Pennsylvania. What? Oh. Oh, fuck you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually made that flight after.

2:38:56Dan Katz:Good point, Hank. New York. No, I've never missed a flight like that. I'm definitely going to miss some flight at some point. I'm playing with house money, so I'm not going to judge Hank at all. And I was nit-faced. You were nit-faced. It just happens. Yeah, you were balls deep in the beave last night.

2:39:15PFT Commenter:Yeah. Just going crazy for it. Were you tailgating with Max's friends after Max left?

2:39:23Dan Katz:Yeah.

2:39:25PFT Commenter:That's awesome

2:39:26Dan Katz:But then again I ended up leaving Yeah headbutting a tree The tailgating post loss Has got to be like the all time bad vibes Tailgating But I do think that you got The tailgate after a game is a great move It is But after a bad loss like that You gotta kill a little bit of time Hope some of the traffic goes down

2:39:46PFT Commenter:Yeah you just sit around and warm up We just talked about how bad

2:39:51Dan Katz:I mean, it's just, you know, you vent a little bit. Yeah.

2:39:55PFT Commenter:All right. You have three?

2:39:58Dan Katz:Yep. 33. I'll go 35 because once I said that, it popped up on that TV.

2:40:06PFT Commenter:Wait, what is your score prediction? I don't know. I'm pretty positively negative right now, so I'm going to say loss. But give us a score prediction.

2:40:15Dan Katz:35-33. Oh, shit. If you give up 35 to Tua, fire Aaron Glenn. No, Mike McDaniel is still a good offensive mind. Yeah, okay. They still have weapons. They have talent on their team. Yeah. I'll go 61. I'll go. Yep, Zach. Yep.

2:40:40PFT Commenter:Zach, what do you got? I'll go 25. 99, Pooh.

2:40:45Dan Katz:19.

2:40:46PFT Commenter:19, Jack. 76 Shane I'll go 22

2:40:56What was yours Max? 33 What was yours?

2:41:04Dan Katz:35

2:41:11PFT Commenter:13 13 Love you guys Thank you.

2:41:47Thank you.

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2:42:48Thank you.