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30:04Limited time offer. See terms at pick6.draftkings.com slash promos. Let's go to the next game. This should be interesting because Hank, let's just say this. Hank had a hell of a day. He won everything, including Broncos 21, Eagles 17, which that was, I would say, one of the biggest wins the Broncos have had. and I know they were good last year. They made the playoffs. But in terms of like statement wins on the road, Bo Nix struggling for the first three quarters, then showing up huge in the fourth quarter. He was 15 for 29 for 115 yards going into the fourth quarter. In the fourth quarter, he was 9 for 10, 127 yards and a touchdown.

30:47Took over that game. The Broncos defense, which everyone has talked about, was awesome down the stretch. They sacked Jalen Hurts six times. They had smoke in the locker room afterwards. It felt like one of those, hey, this is the win the Broncos needed. They have two losses on the season. Both games, I think they had to lead the entire fourth quarter in both those games. This was like, hey, we went and we punched the big, bad bullies in the mouth. We won a big game on the road. The Broncos are for real. Yeah, this was the first game. You're right. It's the first game that the Broncos have trailed in the fourth quarter all season, which is crazy because they got those two losses, but they were behind and yeah i don't know what the smoke what were they smoking cigars in lock there was a smoke machine smoke machine probably also some cigars in locker room uh congratulations to the broncos their defense is legit legit not only did they sack jalen hurts but they also held saquon barkley in check for the most part besides that one long reception that he had but they only the eagles only ran the ball six times yeah i was gonna say through saquon he only got six carries I think that was because how they wanted to try to attack this defense.

31:52I don't know, but if you're going to keep Saquon, if you're going to limit his touches, that's a recipe for how you can beat the Eagles. Yeah, they only had one handoff in the second half. It felt like the Eagles maybe were reading the news a little too much, maybe listening to what A.J. Brown wanted too much and passing the ball too much. But again, I know there were some controversial penalties, which we'll get to, but this was more to me like the Broncos went in in a game that they were kind of dominated for the first three quarters and it looked like the Eagles were going to cruise to victory kind of like a hey this is a measuring stick game for the Denver Broncos yeah 2025 can they measure up for the first three quarters the answer was resoundedly no and man this team is still a decent ways away from competing at the higher level of the NFL.

32:43And then they basically were like, no, we're here, and Bo Nix can do this. And incredible win, huge win. Bo Nix made some great throws in the fourth quarter. Yeah. Doddington Bones is what some are calling him. I think Hank invented that nickname. That's like a fourth level of irony nickname that Hank has come up with at this point. Look at Hank. This is the smiless we've had. He hasn't smiled this big on the podcast in a long time. He is smiling. He is so happy right now. He is smiling. He's so happy that he's making me happy. Oh, man, is he smiling. But, yeah, I mean, we can talk about the penalties.

33:18I have a stat, though, about the penalties. I just fucking love football. You always have said you love football. You fucking love football, dude. So the Eagles had 55 yards of penalties today. The Broncos had 122 penalty yards today. Ooh. I thought that was an interesting stat. Okay. Now, I will say that the Eagles also have played just an absolute gauntlet of a schedule so far. They've had just nothing but big games back to me. It felt like every week was a massive, massive game for the Eagles. That's because it's the NFL and every week is massive. But especially for the Eagles. They played a very, very tough schedule.

33:54I think at some point that caught up with them a little bit. And the Broncos are good enough to take advantage of that. Yeah. Like any small laps. Yeah. And that's what they did. All right. So, Max, we'll get to how Hank comes into this, but how are you feeling? That was a tough game, not fun. Yeah, not fun. We've kind of been playing this football the past couple weeks. We're just playing one half, like one really good half, and the other half looked like the worst team in the NFL. And we've been winning these close games, luckily, and we deserve to lose one. The refereeing at the end of the game was horrendous, but we deserve to lose one of these games.

34:38Max, remember when I said to you last week, or maybe it was a couple weeks ago, that maybe a loss would be good? Yeah. Saquon kind of agreed with me. I know, he said that. Yeah, he said, now we have adversity, real adversity. We lost a football game. We got a lot of guys banged up. We got to get healthy and come to work. We have a super competitive team. It's not going to sit well. with anyone in this locker room will get better from it. So point me. Yeah. Do you think – Did I hear you agreeing with Big Cat when I was walking past the cave earlier today? Like maybe this is a good loss? Yeah, I just said it.

35:14Yeah. Yeah, but you already – like you were talking about it earlier. Yeah. So you really – it's not just Big Cat being like, hey, that was – Saquon said it. That was Cope. You were thinking that too. That's like two hours after a loss, Cope. How can we find the positives? But you can't win every game. Yeah, you can't win every game. And you finally had a loss. Are you worried at all about how the offense did seem to try to force the ball downfield more? 38 passes for Jalen Hurts. That's tied for the most he's had in the last year and a half. Are you worried at all about that? Because it did feel like they were throwing the ball a lot more.

35:52Only one, like I said, one handoff in the second half is very bizarre for an Eagles team that prides themselves on being able to just run the ball down your throat. And we haven't been running the ball well this year, but today we did. Saquon was running for five yards a carry. It was his best average yards per carry of the season, and we just weren't running it. What would you say to people who were like, hey, Jalen Hurts finally threw the ball a ton of times and they lost?

36:19He didn't look bad throwing. He had 280 yards. He had over 100 quarterback rating. Like, he, that's exactly what the fucking haters want him to do. That's what I'm saying. Max, I don't, me? I don't care about the stats that you're showing somewhere now. I don't either. He lost. But that's what everyone says. He's lost. It's like, oh, you really think he's a good quarterback because he wins throwing the ball like 105 yards? I'm like, well, he won the fucking football game. Right. And then he loses a football game, throws for 280 and two touchdowns. And then it's like, oh, maybe he sucks because he couldn't win the game.

36:51Well, it's whatever. So the Eagles are better when Jalen Hurts is not good. Or doesn't throw. Doesn't throw. That's not what I'm saying. But he wins. No, but he wins. That's good. That's not what I'm saying. When he wins, it's good. That one pass to A.J. Brown, that was tough. The... Big cat. Yeah. I don't know if you might not know ball. What are you talking about? Well... A.J. Brown stopped running. Are we talking about... I understand. A.J. Brown said after he's like... He looked up. There was no ball. And that's why he stopped running. And then the ball was late. that's A.J. Brown if we're talking about the seam route that's A.J.

37:26Brown he made a cut stopped running and then he started once he saw the ball miscommunication and then it was like five yards over him but if he had run the whole time he would have been underneath but he said after the game he was just like yeah I looked up the ball wasn't there asked if he slowed down because he thought the ball wasn't coming it's not that I didn't think it was coming I looked up and didn't see the ball I looked back and didn't see the ball and then the ball was thrown. So like I said, we just missed. So yeah, he did stop running because he thought the timing was off. Because the ball wasn't coming.

37:59But the ball was coming. The ball was coming. He just didn't see it. The more concerning film of A.J. Brown to me is the very last play of the game. Yeah. Biggav, you rewatched that? Yes. The second it happened, I don't know if we can call it a Hail Mary. It was like, what, a 35-yard pass, 30-yard pass, something like that. The last play of the game, Jalen Hurts throws it in the end zone. and it looks like A.J. Brown's playing cornerback against Devontae Smith. He wanted that. Like, Devontae Smith is jumping up to make the catch, and A.J. jumps over his back, like, fucks up the entire catch, and then grabs Devontae Smith by his head and, like, pulls him back to the ground.

38:35It looked like bridesmaids fighting over the bouquet at a wedding. This is what happens when you don't feed them the ball. They get hungry for it. Yeah. Max, that's concerning. Yes? I mean, that— How concerned are you? That is like two competitors wanting to go up and get a ball. It's a scrum in there. You don't even really know who's who in this situation. He's just trying to catch football, which my argument would be that ball, there has to be a plan going into that play of who is going to be the guy that goes up to make the play and who is going to be the guy that is on the side for a tip. Yeah, but winning football, you're not even in a Hail Mary situation.

39:18I think he knew that was the fun. Like, you guys have been winning so many games, you haven't been able to practice this. Also, just an egregious non-call on Goddard. Yeah, no, I agree. I agree with that. That one was bad. The Bo Nix intentional grounding was bad. And the Zach Pond personal foul was bad. That was a fourth down. That was a little more stupid than bad. My penalty stat was a red herring stat. I think that was a weak ass fucking call. Obviously, the most important calls went against the Eagles. Yes. Like, the total yardage doesn't really matter. Yeah, and the illegal motion on the Devontae Smith big pass play.

39:52That sucked, too. Yeah. Where? But that was like, I mean, you're not going to. Yeah. That was just cut and dry. Yeah, you just fucked up. That was just execution. I mean, you guys are 4-1. You're going to kill the Giants. Yeah. You're going to be fine. Yeah. Hank, what did you think about the game? I thought it was an exciting game. I thought both teams played well. Bo Nix coming out party of his own. 18 unanswered in the fourth quarter. Passing the torch game? Not passing the torch, but it was on the road against the Super Bowl champs. It was a gritty performance. So there was a little argument in the gambling cave.

40:29Can we play that clip so the people can hear it? Oh, no. He's taking off his headphones. I mean, the people want to hear it. They want to hear what we're talking about. if we're going to get in an argument. Oh, he's making... All right, Zach, pull it off. Some context here. Hank and his Hungry Dog parlay had the Denver Broncos beating the Eagles. Hank has picked against the Eagles every single week for his Hungry Dog parlay. Yes, one week they were on Thursday Night Football. This is what Hank does. We've worked with Hank for... How many years have you worked with Hank? This happens at least once, usually a couple times a year.

41:08there will be a week in the NFL season where Hank will win everything and it will be someone else losing everything and he'll sit here and smile and it will drive you to your wits end but he's not doing anything wrong, he's just winning. Thank you. Sometimes he's a little sneaky about it. I've been in this spot before Max, it sucks. There's nothing you can do about it. He just has a week like this every year where he just wins. Multiple. Well not always. Last year I don't think the Hungry Dog hit once at the end of the year. One time. So that's not multiple. So that's one time. I'm saying multiple are coming.

41:44And it's usually at the expense of one of us. Snowball started at the top of the hill. He's hot. So Hank had his he had the Broncos today money line and then a fight broke out in the gambling cave. And I would like to see how we're doing as a group right now but this is what happened. This is in the fourth quarter of the game when the Broncos are driving to go up. By the way, credit Sean Payton going for two. That was crazy. I love that call. Love it. On the road, do it. Balls. Balls. All right, here it is. Admit that you're being a dick. No, that's not it. Okay, Max, can you please find it for us?

42:21And find the actual copy from the stream, not that one, because the mics would be better. Max, he doesn't want to play this. Well, the back story, obviously, they were in the Hungry Dog parlay. Well, I think the backstory, here's one thing I will say. Hank was moving for his back. One thing I will say is Max was coming off a long, he was a little, you know, he was at a wedding. We got to get Max off the road. Tough night for the Phillies. He's on the road too much. Tough night for Penn State. He, you know, his gas was on empty. He was already kind of like a wounded dog, and I don't think it helped.

42:57I wasn't, I was not trying to really, like, I poke the bear with him sometimes. Yeah. This was not really even poking the bear, but once he reacted. naturally it's like fight or flight and it's not fighting actually fighting it's just like do I want to lean in and get him more upset or flight and it's yes I'm going to lean in and try and get him more upset did you talk about the little punches did you put your hands on him yes you shouldn't have put your hands on him we were sitting next to each other and you put your hands on him well Hank loves football and he was excited about a great throw I tapped him I tapped his shoulder I did tap his shoulder Yeah, and I mean, Hank, also, I don't know if anybody missed out on the context because we haven't talked about MLB or college football.

43:40But when you said that, it's Penn State lost to UCLA who had never, they hadn't won a single game. They hadn't had a lead. They hadn't had a lead this year. And then. Oh, Hank's trending. Is he? Love that, Hank. That's just mine. Oh, that's your personal? Yeah, but he is. He's trending inside Max's algorithm. I wish I could go back and look. This happens every year. And then the Dodgers, they came back against the Phillies. Yeah. And that was last night. So those are the games that Hank's talking about. Yeah. And then today it was the NFL football game. Okay. So that might have been the last. Let's give the people the context and show them the fight that took place.

44:18This is Max and Hank. Doddington Bulls. Shut the fuck up, dude. Shut up. So he threw a touchdown and I said Doddington Bulls. Then he knocked your hat off. Shut your fucking mouth. Was that a dot or was that a dot? Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! I don't give a fuck. You never fucking hit these. You're going to lose the next fucking leg. You're such a pussy, dude. It's a fucking parlay! It's a fucking parlay! It's a fucking bullshit parlay! Shut your fucking mouth! Shut your fucking mouth! It's every... Bobo! Bobo! Bobo! Shut up! It was a dog. That wasn't a fucking dog, dude! It was a five-yard throw!

45:07Shut up! Shut up! Oh, they're going for two! Oh, baby, let's go! Come on! He hit Max Scott, and then people can't watch this clip. He stood up and started punching the wall. Donington Boom

45:32Max Started hitting the wall There's seven minutes left Shut up Shut up Yeah so there was a moment where Max reaches over He throws Hank's hat He picks up Hank's phone Which was on my penis by the way He grabs my phone and my dick at the same time I thought everything was fair except for Max touching your penis And hat No he can touch your hat no hat's fine max physical contact was bad max i don't want you to ever touch hank's penis again deal all right yep stefan diggs could learn a lot from this rule yes about hanging with the boys all right so where are you guys at now uh because i also saw there was another one should we play the other one too because you you then you then tried to accuse him of uh of what he was he accusing you of?

46:21Of trying to just stir the pot. Oh. Which he was trying to think of that clip. I literally, they scored a touchdown and I was like yes. I was upstairs in my office and I heard Max yelling and I started listening. Like I came over to listen over the ledge and all I heard was Max being like you wouldn't do this to Big Cat or PFT. I'm like yeah, yeah he has. So what this exact about 99 % of me and Hank's fights in our entire friendship and existence together has pretty much been this exact circumstance so max pivoted to just me yeah right you're not doing anything wrong it's just inside the cage he just entered yes he is yes he is yes he is what is he doing you're insane do not give him the out that he's not purposely trying well he won the bet yes i get that i get that he won the fucking all the bullshit parlays apologize i guess no max i'm also saying you're not wrong either like you're not wrong in your anger he this is all inside of the cave it all but i it all started with with the with the punch and like look at that look at bo nicks as if like the touching's too much at what point am i going to like be happy that bo nicks is throwing a good football you you shouldn't don't don't don't touch don't touch okay no but it was but but that was the point that started it and then i got mad when you did that and then it was every play oh that's a dot that's a dot That's a die.

47:4918 unanswered points in the fourth quarter. You're some Broncos guy. I gave you an opening, and then you just kept going, and you know it. If the Broncos didn't score 18 unanswered points in the fourth quarter and have a big comeback win, I would not have been doing that. You're right. You weren't even watching the fucking Commanders game, and that was the last leg. Max, that's where I got a little bit pissed off. Yes. So what happened in the second clip was— What are you talking? You had to go play fucking pinball. No, I wasn't. Was I Wait PFT was I in the cave for the Commanders win Max is right Hank left the cave Once at least to swing a golf club And again to play pinball False You were playing pinball During the game Because I was like where the fuck is Hank now I need somebody on my side in here But here's the part that pissed me off It was like the fourth quarter Of the Commanders game and then Max comes into the studio and then Max starts prosecuting Hank trying to just get him to admit under oath.

48:52Well, that game was over at that point. No, no. The game was still very much up in the air. But Max is trying to make Hank admit to the fact that he was just stirring the pot and being a jerk on purpose. Which I wasn't. And then that became a thing where Hank tried to pretend like he wasn't trying to be a jerk. I wasn't. Which he very obviously was. I was not. But he would not admit to Max's hostile cross-examination. And then after a while, I was just like... Listen to that clip and listeners and tell me who was being a jerk. But that's not the... The clip is not where the anger came from. It was the 45 minutes before the clip.

49:22Max, this is what Hank does, though. You realize it. Big Cat's right when he says that he does it to him. Hank did it to me last year a few times. Yeah. And the little smirk on his face... The little smirk on his face pisses you off. It can't exist. Yeah. This is what he does. Come to the gambling cave and make bets. But God forbid if you fucking bet against one of our teams, we will crucify him. I don't... It does happen. You do bad against our team. You care way more about the best that are against our team. You guys, teams are bad teams. Max, I actually have your back in the fact that Hank has put me in this bind before and I've reacted poorly, and it just is what it is.

50:03He gets this hot streak. You can't look at his face. What are you going to do? He just does this. He has a magic touch every now and then. But your entire point was like, you shouldn't even be rooting for the Broncos because your parlays are bullshit and they're never going to hit. You're going to lose the next fucking leg. Yeah, no, that part was tough. That was a bad look for me. 15 to 1. Cash. Thanks to the commanders. So all you do is bet against our teams. Oh, wait. I was betting with PFT. Hank, I'm on your side. The same way PFT was betting with me. I'm on your side for this. Yeah, I was betting on the Patriots.

50:35And yeah, you are absolutely within your rights to root for your bets to win. That's what we do. It's called the gambling cave Can we just hear just a little clip of the interrogation Yeah the interrogation is important This one I will say Hand up I was pissed off at the hungry dog That's very big of you Hank Admit that you were being a dick No that's all I'm asking Admit you were trying to be a dick What about when you were like How about Bo Yes you did You know that you did I was like, I guess one time you were like, don't fucking touch me. Yes, because, yes, Bo Nix made one throw, and you were like, how about Bo?

51:17What, like, what other way were you doing that other than trying to be a fucking asshole? When I came in, when I came into this cave after the Phillies fucking blew it last night. What does that have to do with anything? Then I wasn't in a good fucking mood, and you were doing it trying to be a fucking asshole. Admit that you were, admit that you were trying to be a fucking asshole. What, like, how? In what other world would this be like, look at that throw from Bo be you trying to be an asshole? Admit it! Admit it! Admit it. You were trying to be a fucking... It just keeps going. That was over the line.

51:58I know people will be like, oh, I had some people being like, oh, how could you let this happen? This is the most guys watching football thing. If you don't get in a fight with your friends about gambling, your teams, everything like this. Everyone has been in this situation. Someone's winning. Someone's losing. It fucking sucks. Guess what? You guys are good now, right? Yeah. You moved on. Yeah, I bet on the Patriots tonight because I knew I could just feel that this was a Hank day. Yeah. Right. You guys are good. That's the trick is when you can feel the Hank days coming along, it's way better to be on the Hank side of history than to be on the other side.

52:33Oh, yeah. You got to just hop on. But it's very telling when people are like, oh, man, this is ridiculous. They're fighting over the – It's not that serious. Yeah, that just shows that you just don't have friends because this is – if we weren't doing this job, if we weren't doing this podcast, I'd be sitting in a basement somewhere with my friends probably doing similar things where I'd be mad if I lost and they won or I won and they lost. It just happens. So you guys are good. Yeah, I also think Max – and again, I'm fine. Like, we're good friends, and I will be the punching bag for the Phillies.

53:06Like, Max's anger that came out to me was at the Phillies and not me. And I understand that. There's a bit of truth. Yeah, that's fair. I understand that. You need something to get mad at when your team – like, if your team loses, you can't be like, my team just sucks. You've got to also get mad at someone. I'm still down severely bad from that Phillies. Yeah. And Penn State. And Penn State. Playoff baseball sucks. and yeah, the Eagles, that was a tough loss. Broncos, though. Congrats to the Broncos. Great bet, Hank. I have a blind resume if you want a blind resume. Yeah, I'd love a blind resume.

53:38Okay, who should I? Hank, let me ask you this one. Please. This won't be for Hank, so I'm not going to try to troll Max anymore. I'll just go to my boy, Hank. All right, quarterback one. This, by the way, I'll just frame this. This blind resume, it features two quarterbacks that have two common opponents this season. Okay. They played the same teams. two common opponents against those two common opponents quarterback one in two games 253 yards passing and two combined yeah yeah come on zero touchdowns zero picks quarterback two 610 yards passing three touchdowns two interceptions in regulation gotta go quarterback two so quarterback one is actually Super Bowl champion Jalen Hurts quarterback two is Russell Wilson Super Bowl champion I just thought that was interesting what are the two commoners the Cowboys and the Chiefs I thought that was interesting that is interesting yeah very interesting and how many yards total for Russell Wilson 610 yards.

54:53How many yards did he have against the Cowboys? He had a lot of those yards. 450? He had a lot of those yards against the Cowboys. It was basically a Cowboys stat, and then I was like, fuck, I got to add these shitty Chiefs stats. This is all regulation only. Regulation only. And has nothing to do with the games this week. No, he's just got a blind resume. We're talking ball because we're talking about quarterback play in the NFL. Yeah, but we're a blind resume podcast. You know that. Quarterbacks in the NFL. I like how we're actually like blind blind resumes because audio blind resumes are the worst version to consume them.

55:28Because every time you start saying the numbers, I just get wrong. You start to forget the numbers. Yeah, instantly. I really just only pick whoever the second grouping of numbers is. Because that's always the better one. Yeah. Okay. Are we good, boys? What, Max? I have to pee. Are we done? Are we good? Yes. All right. Do you want to apologize to Hank? No. I apologize for the dick. In the parlay? In the parlay and saying this parlay was going to lose? Stupid fucking parlays? Yeah. 15 to 1. 15 to 1. For the people. I don't want to say I apologize for that, but I was wrong about that. Okay, all right.

56:02Max, I would like you to apologize to Hank for touching his bubble. I said that. That was the first thing I said. For his bubble? Yeah, for his bubble. I'm sorry for making sure you're watching a good bonex. I don't know why I took your phone. That might have been poking the bear. Thank you, Hank. Yeah. Sometimes I see Red and I just do things. They just start grabbing things. And it's like the closest thing to getting physical without actually punching you. Yeah. No, you were actively surveying Hank and his environment to find something that you could physically hit that wasn't his body. I saw someone was like, Max is going to do this to the wrong guy one day and get his ass kicked.

56:37It's like, we're in the gambling cave with our friends. I've known Hank for six years now. Yeah, this is not. This isn't a random guy at the bar. You guys were fighting I was just like That's like two brothers fighting Who the fuck cares It's funny You're tough around Hank I'd like to see you try that shit Against Stephen Che We always I probably wouldn't do it I wouldn't do it No I know That's truth Yeah Alright Max Go pee Can you admit that you're being a dick? I really wasn't. He's out of the room. You can tell us. I literally, there was one minor good throw by Bo. But in the grand scheme of things, and me being a dick, that's nothing.

57:21Obviously, it's a slight troll, but if I was trying to be a dick, I could have been a much bigger dick. That was just testing the waters, and I realized he was - What did I say right when it was happening? I was like, the only thing that I don't, I take Max's side on is the dotting him, Dottington Bones nickname would drive me insane. It's terrible. Yeah, it would drive me insane. That part would drive me insane. But like when I root for my quarterbacks, I - You say dot. Yeah. Yeah, you make names of them with dots. So that's where it's like, that's an existing. I'm just doing me focused on what I'm betting on and rooting for.

57:55If that bothers you, that's a you problem. Dottington Bones. All right. I think we're making merch. dottington bones dude the best is when max when he when he does that with his hands you just know what's on i think he's the best swearer we've got i came to that revelation the other night uh it was when he was doing his phillies video at the wedding he was at the way he says fuck it's because there's usually like a little bit of spit that comes out yeah and then and it's just fuck okay we'll get back to the games in a second but i want to talk to you about venmo kickoff college sports season with a special edition venmo debit card and unlock 40 off a big 10 plus subscription a free year perplexity pro and cash back from some of your favorite brands all while you show school spirit with custom card designs that feature select college teams the venmo debit card works hand in hand with the venmo app you already know and love got paid back for dinner will immediately access money in your venmo balance and choose to spend it on what you want from game day tickets to tailgating snacks.

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1:01:03He then went out and won and he actually played well. He like made some nice throws, made some nice runs. Didn't was under pressure, did not get sacked. So did a good job with that. Didn't turn the ball over. This though was more about the giants. it felt like the Giants they were riding the high from Jackson Dart last week they started the game two touchdown drives they're up 14-3 their next seven possessions went punt punt fumble fumble there was a turn for a touchdown interception interception they had five straight possessions with turnovers and the wheels just kind of fell off and Jackson Dart maybe not his best You know, second game, he's still a rookie.

1:01:47The flea flicker miss that he had, that felt like a pretty big moment. And, yeah, it was five straight turnovers. First time it's happened since 2016. Now, some of that was – His team had five straight. Some of that was because Scadaboo had the wrong gloves on. Yes. You need to have new gloves that were brought to him on the sidelines. Unfortunate that got caught by the cameras. People are going to latch onto that for, like, the next year for him. Yep. But, yeah, it was Jackson Dart. He tries to do too much sometimes. Yeah. He's officially entered that. It's not always a bad thing because you can control it.

1:02:18Josh Allen's gotten really good. He used to do that shit all the time. Jackson Dart, he kind of spazes out sometimes in the middle of plays. It's a college thing. That's what he always used to do. And when you spaz out in the NFL, you end up getting the ball taken away from you by somebody who's much, much better than a college defender. Yeah. In Jackson Dart's defense, he won his first start last week. he started this game two touchdown drives he probably in his head was like i'm the man and then he got humbled pretty quickly and the saints by the way the saints in terms of bad teams one in four teams besides the seahawks game they've been in every single game they fight hard this game they were down so quickly and then they came back they ended up scoring uh we have they They went on a 23-0 run.

1:03:09They're a bad team that's still trying really hard, and it's good for Kellen Moore, good for Spencer Rattler. Get their first win in the Dome. It felt like it was rocking. Also, this is the first QB drafted by the Saints to win a game for the Saints since 1998. Yeah, which is crazy. Danny Werfel was the last one who did it. Nuts. And then if you go before him, you probably have to go back a while too. But I think Spencer Rattler is probably the second best 1-10 quarterback of all time. Who, the best being? Because I think, wasn't Troy Aikman, didn't he have? Was he 1-10? I think he might have been 1-10.

1:03:45Yeah, I think his first year he was 1-15. In his first 11 games. He might have. I think they won. Was it? Oh, he was 0-11. Yeah, I think they won. Yeah, Troy Aikman was 0-11. Yeah, Spencer Rattler. He won a game. I'm happy for him. You won a game very happy. They got to do club dub for the first time in a long time in New Orleans. Yep. They did the boom box and the LEDs and all that stuff. So, yeah, good for them. Also, Rashid Shahid. So fast. Might be the best, like, pure deep threat guy. Yeah. The NFL always needs a few of those guys. And he's got the best name. He's got the best name. But in terms of, like, guys that specialize in just being really, really fast and faster than everybody else and getting vertical, I feel like Rashid Shahid is definitely – It's like him, George Pickens is also an elite deep threat, but Shahid is like the classic deep threat where he's just like, I'm going to run straight.

1:04:40Nobody's going to be able to cover me for 40 yards, and then I'll just run past you and catch a touchdown. Also, Jackson Dart had, there were a couple bad drops too, really bad drops on some throws that he had that couldn't change. He wants that one back. Yeah, he would like that one back for sure. That would have been nice. Yeah, your receiver's got to help out a rookie quarterback. I think Slayton might have. Yeah, they don't have Malik Neighbors. Yeah. We also had, so I looked it up. The Saints, since the bye week last year, they're 0-9 against every team they've played except the Giants are 2-0.

1:05:14So they're 2-9 since the bye week last year. They're 2-0 against the Giants, 0-9 against everyone else. All right. Ryan Dable's got a Saints problem. Yeah, he does. He's got a Saints problem. I still think the Giants are going to be okay. I think they'll be an 0 - Okay. They'll be like respect. Okay. In terms of I don't think that Dable is going to get fired. How many wins do they have to have for Dable to keep his job? New quarterback. I'm going to say five. It depends. It depends on how Dart looks. Like if they lose a bunch of football games, but Dart gets better, then you can justify it. I think I don't know if you think that he keeps their job if they win three games.

1:05:57No, not three. I think if they win, I'd say, five or six games, you might be safe. Can I just read off to you their next grouping of opponents? They have the Eagles on Thursday. They have to play at the Broncos. They have to play at the Eagles. They have to play the 49ers. They have to play at the Bears. They have to play the Packers and then the Lions. It's tough. It's going to be tough. That's tough. Then they finish the season at the Patriots, Commanders, Vikings, Raiders, Cowboys. Maybe a few, rip off a few wins late. I could see them getting to five or six. Yeah. The Malik Nabors thing is just such a bummer for the Giants because that was the, you know, he's so dynamic and then you have a chance in some of these games.

1:06:41And again, Jackson Dart's his second start, so you can't really take a lot from this. But I think Dable might be in trouble if he doesn't. They have to win a few games. It can't just be Jackson Dart looked okay. No, I'd say if they win five games and Dart looks like he's playing good football towards the end of the year. Yeah, I can see the mirrors being like, we don't want to switch things up. Yeah, that's fair. Okay, and congrats to the Saints. That's good. I'm happy for Spencer Rattler. That became a bummer that every week we're just like. Yeah, because he was bad, but he wasn't 0-10 bad. Yeah.

1:07:13The Giants were the only NFL team over the last 30 seasons to score a touchdown on their first two drives and have a turnover on five straight drives in the same game. Brian Dable was asked about that he said hard to do that's a fact they did something that was very difficult today you know what's crazy is that the Giants haven't won back to back games since 2023 and that was Tommy DeVito that was Tommy DeVito that was that thing when we were doing the fingers that was that era and they were kind of close this game was a lot closer than it really should have been considering all the turnovers yeah Yeah, I would say so.

1:07:53Yeah, I mean, five straight possessions with a turnover is pretty insane. Yeah, it's tough to win those games. All right, next up, Cowboys 37, Jets 22. Let's start with the Cowboys. Dak is playing very good football. Oh, yeah. Booger McFarlane said he's the MVP. I think Booger might have even said it's not close, which I would disagree with that because there's a couple guys who it's definitely close with. Yeah, it is close. But I think Dak's definitely in the – we're having the conversation right now. He's in the conversation. He actually was asked about that, Dak Prescott, because there were people, fans, chanting MVP.

1:08:30He said, my ears work, so I did hear it, but I didn't hear it. It's week five. I did hear it, but I didn't hear it. I like that. That's actually a perfect answer from a quarterback. Yeah, but Dak has been great. Cowboys offense is electric. Javante Williams is awesome. He had 135 yards. He had, I think, 76 yards after missed tackles. George Pickens has five touchdowns. George Pickens is about to make a lot of money. He's going to get paid. He has been, I mean, like this C.D. Lamb injury has been great for George Pickens and the fact that these deep, although he was getting a lot of shots even with C.D., but George Pickens has been awesome.

1:09:07Javante Williams has been awesome. Dak's been awesome. Jake Ferguson has been insane. Jake Ferguson has 41 catches on the season. So the crazy thing about Pickens is now he's doing against, without a doubt, the number one cornerback on him. Yeah. So, like, he put up some nice deep catches against Sauce. And, yeah, the Cowboys offense is legit, legit. Yeah, so Dak on the season, he's 1 ,356 yards passing. I think that's second. Ten touchdowns, three picks, 71.3 % completion percentage. He's been very, very good. And, like, the Cowboys are in that fun category because their defense isn't great, although it's gotten a little bit better.

1:09:47But their offense, especially when they get CD back, they should be able to score on anyone. They should make every game entertaining that they're in. Yeah. I mean, this was an up game for their defense, though. Yeah. They walked away feeling a lot better about that. They can be like, yeah, I guess we fixed it this week. Did you fix it, or was it just memes? The Jets. Or was it the Jets? I think it was just the Jets. Now, you tweeted out that the Jets have been eliminated from postseason contention. That was two weeks ago. Okay, but now you tweet out that they're on the clock. They're on the clock.

1:10:23It's over. This is the worst. This is the worst team in football and probably the worst team I've ever watched. I think the 2020 team is worse. Yeah, they are the last team without a win. I don't understand it because it's like they do have – they kind of did the exact same thing as they did against Miami where it's like opening drive, get all the way down the field. I think they might have been a penalty or something, had to settle for a field goal. Then they drive the ball again, fumble again. It's like they get – I saw a stat they had 19 plays of 10-plus yards. I know there was some garbage time in here, but that's an explosive offense.

1:11:02But, yeah, they're just not good. No, they're not good. And then – so for the offense, you have to play perfect because the defense is that bad. Right. This is where you got to go the meme strategy. You're just drafting all defense next year. You know what's – All defense. All defense. You know what's crazy is that the Jets don't have a single takeaway. Yeah. It's five games. First team ever in the history of the NFL, which that seems counterintuitive. First 0-5 team to start the season 0-5 and have zero takeaways. Zero takeaways. It's crazy. You'd think all the 0-5 teams wouldn't have that. And I also feel like the Jets have talent on defense.

1:11:41So here's the thing about that. Like the football guys of the world are saying that all the guys they signed in free agency and brought back don't fit the scheme of Steve Wilkes. Which I don't know how that makes sense. Just go to the other scheme. Yeah. Yeah. Adapt. Switch to your players. Scheme towards your players. Yeah, they're just like, oh, well, you just got to coach them up. And they just say that after every single week. And they've been getting worse. Yeah, that is pretty crazy. Like, just play to your players' strengths. Like, they are missing a couple guys, but still, it's so brutal.

1:12:19Well, when it comes to the craziest part of this whole no takeaways thing is at some point you would just luckily recover one of the fumbles, right? All the fumbles just bounce right back to the other team. I don't think you guys have even come close to recovering a fumble. I think we were close one time, but then there was a flag. It sucks. Justin Fields isn't giving up, though, Memes. Did you see his quote about there's never been an 0-5 team that has made the playoffs? I did see that. He said there's a first time for everything, brother. Yeah, Justin Fields is perfect for this team. He's just, you can't really evaluate what he is because defense is so bad.

1:12:54But we know what he is. You know what he is, but you don't know what he is. He's a perfect quarterback to lose games, and that's it. That's all he is. Well, then you know what he is. yeah but you don't know what he is but if you say that he's the perfect quarterback to lose games you know what he is yeah he's a loser that was hard yeah that's me a capital l i still root for justin fields it's just there's times where it's just yeah yeah i mean he had he had a good stat line today but if you watch the game you don't walk away being like that's the guy that's gonna to lead you that's kind of his thing yeah like where the stats will will look okay and then he'll have a play or two that will pop but it's like if you watch down to down you're like this doesn't seem super functional yeah is that a fair assessment that's a fair assessment yeah garbage time he's electric did you allow yours because it got so there was so much garbage time that for a second i thought like maybe maybe the jets they looked like they were playing hard in fourth quarter when it was there a second it was a two score game i was like ah and then they just drove down the field yeah by the way uh you know you got screwed on the uh sky cam what do you mean the ball that got tipped and then hit the sky cam i was watching uh football night in america and our good friend mike florio said that by rule that should have uh been a redo of a down.

1:14:28So you should have had third and goal again. Would have changed the entire game. Does that rule change if the ball is tipped? Yeah, no, he said no matter what happens. He said if it hits it, it has to be a redo. Wow. Yeah, crazy. What do we say about Aaron Glenn's sad field goal? It wasn't a sad field goal. It was a somewhat sad field goal. It cuts game to a three score. I guess that is true, but it was still a semi-sad field goal. It was semi-sad, but if it cuts the game to a three-score, like if it goes from four to three, that is the math. It was 30-3, and they kicked a field goal. They kicked the field goal, cut it to three-score, then they got the touchdown, cut it to two-score.

1:15:13That is how the analytics of it. You're right. You're right. It's just any time you see a field goal, a team lining up for a field goal, down 33. That is by definition sad. It is sad, but you do have to figure out a way to be like, well we could yeah hypothetically we could win where are you on aaron glenn overall i don't know this team fucking sucks yeah they do do you think this is the worst team you've seen i i think 2020 2020 was really bad that was the covet year and it was just like instant loss i just remember playing 49ers they did jet suite with raheem mostert and it was it It was an 80-yard touchdown to start a game.

1:15:53Yeah. Is this the most embarrassing team that you've watched?

1:16:01Like, are you personally embarrassed by the Jets? The mono Jets were pretty bad. What a statement. They brought out Luke Folk, who's a Washington State quarterback. He was third string behind Trevor Simeon, who broke his leg the week before. Because, again, Sam Darnold had mono, and I think they got one first down that game against the Eagles. Was that the COVID year where it was like the Broncos where they had a guy playing quarterback that didn't play quarterback? Yeah. Because Blake Bortles accidentally gave everybody COVID? Yep. What, memes, are you at least at a point now 0-5 where you're not going to let them affect your mood?

1:16:47Yeah. I thought they actually had a chance today. I will never think that. Okay, so that's good. There's a freeing moment there where you're like, they can't hurt me anymore. They can figure out a way. They could. They could definitely figure out a way. But today was the final straw. The Cowboys had four or five linemen out. They had CeeDee Lamb out. They had their slot receiver out. The list goes on and on. Then they had two defensive starters also go out during the game. They're the last ranked defense in the league. like I don't know what we're doing. You got to figure out a way to win that game.

1:17:24They were favorites at kickoff. I just realized too like this happened. I asked if they could still hurt you because I've been in that spot where it's like, hey, at least they can't hurt me in this season anymore. And then I just it just popped in my head that the whole Mark Sanchez thing happened and he's like the best quarterback you've had in a while. Yeah. Yeah. What did you feel? So Mark Sanchez, for people who missed it, a report came out on Friday that he got stabbed and had life-threatening injuries. Everyone rushed to Twitter to be like, I hope he's okay. He's a great guy. Then it comes out, the report is that he was running wind sprints in an alley in Indianapolis, got in a fight with a truck driver who was trying to park.

1:18:08It was a DoorDash driver. A DoorDash driver was trying to park. Started beating the fuck out of this guy. This is all alleged, but I saw the pictures of the guy he was fighting, and it was gnarly. Then the guy pepper sprayed Mark Sanchez and then stabbed him because he was afraid that he was going to die because Mark Sanchez was beating him so bad. It was a 69-year-old guy. Yeah, and the guy looked pretty fucked up. Yeah, bad. So it was like everyone was like, oh, man, I hope Mark Sanchez is okay. And then the story about five hours later is like, oh, wait, Mark Sanchez almost killed. Kill the guy?

1:18:43Yeah. Then they said, we arrested Mark Sanchez in the hospital. That is the worst hangover of all time. Easily. I spent the last day thinking about it and running through the different scenarios. I think if you're in a hospital bed recovering from stab wounds, you get arrested in your hospital bed. That is the worst way to spend a day coming down. Don't forget, probably sore from running drunk wind sprints. That's also probably true. I want to know more about the wind sprints. It's also, it was the Raiders game, right? Yeah. They should have let him call the game. Yeah. They should have let Mark Sanchez call the game from the hospital bed.

1:19:20Yeah. That would have been a nice touch to it. Hope the guy that got the fuck beat out of him is okay. Yes. Hope Mark Sanchez is okay. And, yeah, maybe he was partaking in some stuff that he shouldn't have been. I don't know. I don't want to speculate, so I'm not going to speculate. But bad hangover. Yeah. So that all happened to the Jets this weekend. Have you started the rebuild again? I haven't started yet. I left here at halftime. People. Oh, no. Oh, I'm talking about your Madden rebuild. No, I know. I'm just also just thinking aloud. Yeah. No, I tell you something literally was like I came looking for memes at halftime and it was like he was here a second ago.

1:20:01And I talked to him after the game. He's like, yeah, I just I just drove home. Yeah Memes are you I think you're too good For the Jets In terms of The Madden stuff I don't think they deserve you No I literally I accumulated 20 20 20 20 26 draft picks And they fired me Yeah 20 It's disgusting 20 Bad ownership Yeah I was gonna draft well too Oh man You should give it another shot And let us know People were asking For you to stream it I would watch that stream I wouldn't I would Well, you wouldn't have to. You'd be in it. Sure. Yeah. Also, credit to memes. If you follow any of our socials, pardon my take, Instagram, Twitter, we all got significantly fatter on Friday on all of the show graphics.

1:20:48Mm-hmm. It was great. What happened? Can you just give us a little insight into memes brain on Friday? Because it was every single new graphic made me laugh even harder. So I was driving home Thursday night. and on the drive home, I made you guys fat. So Shane does the graphics. That was it. Shane does the graphics. And then you went into the Dropbox, you downloaded every graphic that Shane made, and then you added a fat filter onto all of them. Yep. And then you just tweeted them out throughout the day. Except for Max. You didn't add a fat filter onto Max. Why is that? Didn't work on him. Didn't want to say that out loud.

1:21:27I think it's the beard. so uh did it make you feel a little bit better after the week you had had oh yeah okay good that's that's great that was like a really uh good outlet for you to to take out on us yeah i've done that once before uh so one of the one of those days hank hank won and everybody else lost it was shane's like first week here i he sent a thumbnail i was just like just make hank fat

1:22:00we're a good functioning podcast yeah just had a max and and hank got a little physical today memes is taking out is so angry at us he's like i'm just gonna make them all fat it's good but we i think we're all in a good place right now yeah counterpoint has a fucking voodoo doll of me that he feeds his dog it's not a voodoo no that's a dog toy yeah that's a dog and it's And by the way, it is by far Blake's favorite toy. This morning, I let Blake downstairs. My mom texted me and was like, this is rude. I swear to God, let Blake downstairs this morning. I forgot about that. First thing he did was he sprinted to get his Blake toy or his Hank toy.

1:22:37It's his favorite toy. He couldn't wait. That's why he wakes up every morning. He's like, I want to play with my friend Hank. I can't wait to bring Hank over to the house so he recognizes Hank from being like the real life-sized version of his toy. He's going to love you. We really are the friend of mine. It's the Gumby video. Yeah, exactly. He's going to be like, oh, my God, my toy's here, and he's awesome, and he's playing with you. We are the Frenemies podcast. He did tear you apart the other night. What are you going to say, Max? This is what we should send to the Golden Globes. Yes. Do these guys like each other?

1:23:07We need to do that Golden Globes cut up. All right. Next up, Colts 40, Raiders 6. Colts are a juggernaut. that throw Daniel Jones made to Michael Pittman for a touchdown. I know it was only like a six yard touchdown. If you, if you're just looking at the box score, you probably aren't impressed. Go, go look at that throw. That is the throw that Daniel Jones is seeing things differently than he has in a long time, because he was going not across his body, but he was moving right. And, and there was a very small window back of the end zone, two defenders and he threw an absolute laser beam to Michael Pittman for a touchdown and you're like that's it that's Daniel Jones he's seeing the field he's coached in a way now that he's get he's like getting this and the culture just good Jonathan Taylor another three touchdowns their defense was awesome the culture just good yeah they're really good and they're using Tyler Warren all the time they're finding new inventive ways to get Tyler Warren with the ball uh it's it's remarkable the difference in these Colts as compared to a year ago Colts.

1:24:16Yeah, it is. It's like an entire turnaround. And yeah, Daniel Jones, he's playing fast and he's like, he's super confident and it's good to see. Like, I feel happy watching him play football. Yeah. Tyler Warren is the first tight end in NFL history with 300 plus receiving yards and two TDs in his first five career games. Nice pick pulls. But Daniel Jones also had a really good throw to Tyler Warren for one of those touchdowns where he just like kind of put it over his shoulder. Yeah. on the sidelines he's just he's just really daniel jones let's let's just talk about daniel jones is a pro bowl quarterback he's good he's good at football he's good he's yeah he's a very good he's and the colts are a good football when booger said he maybe if he's andy dalton he is uh he's way better than anyone could have expected yeah absolutely and the colts i don't i know we're we've talked a little scheduling today but like they play the cardinals at the chargers and the Titans their next three the Colts could very well be a six and two possibly even seven one team going into November like they're I don't I don't see it like their one loss is was last week against the Rams when they absolutely beat themselves and like had all those mistakes uh they're just a really good team and they were you know another efficient day eight for ten on third down they're a really, really good team.

1:25:35They can beat you multiple ways. The Raiders, on the other hand, are we going to maybe bench Geno Smith? Are we going to do the Kenny Pickett experiment again? He's got nine interceptions this season. The real Geno hasn't showed up yet. Through five weeks, he has nine interceptions. I don't know what that would be. What, 32 interceptions on the year? Because here's a game schedule. Let me break it down for the Raiders fans. he's going to look really good next week. And he's going to be awesome. You guys are going to win. Who are they playing? They're playing Tennessee Titans. Oh. So, yeah. Might not look good.

1:26:17He's going to look great next week. I don't know about that. And you'll be like, yep, Gino's back. We're good to go. And then it's going to fall apart again. Yeah. So, this is kind of my own sign of maybe this is – When I think a quarterback is about to be done who hasn't had all the accolades, hasn't won a Super Bowl, that stuff, I go look and see how much money they made. And I'm like, hey, that's pretty nice. Geno Smith, after 2016 when he left the Jets, and basically it was like, hey, he could be out of the league in a day. You know what I mean? He went to the Giants, then he bounced around.

1:26:56So after the 2016 season, he had made$5 million playing football. After this season, how much money is Geno Smith going to have made playing football? I think$130. I think$100. $107. That's a really good career, Geno Smith. Awesome career. You had a moment. You had a crossroads where there was a chance that you were not going to make more than a couple million as a backup and then be out of the league. Yep. You made$107 million. You had a nice time in Seattle. It's bad, though, right now. It's pretty bad. It's really bad. But Pete Carroll, he seems like he's your ride or die. He might stick with you for a little bit.

1:27:35Also, I think he's made a lot of that money in states that don't have state income tax. Oh, that's awesome. So he's gotten to keep a bunch of them. Yeah, good job. So if you had to pick which state to only make the five million, New York's probably the one. Yeah. But it's bad. It's bad. But I don't really think that... The only hope the Raiders have right now in terms of the quarterback is just hope that they time out who's having a good week better between Geno Smith and Kenny Pickett. Yeah, no. Just guess. Pete Carroll kind of said that. He was like, we need to stay out there and keep practicing.

1:28:06We need the reps. We need the turns. That's not what's necessary. Talking about if he's going to make a switch, we need to get better and get right. So he's sticking with Gino. They got to practice more. They got to practice more. Pete Carroll's been saying he's been good in practice. And he keeps saying that he said, we believe we're going to be much better than this. I don't know if that's true. I don't know if they're going to be better than this. I think that's what you see is what you get with Geno Smith yeah which is yeah it is it's him it just is it is what it is that's what we need to say with Geno Smith it is what it is and how many picks did he have today two he had two so that now he's got what nine on the year nine on the year a niner five games in but not in practice not in practice well I'm sure he's throwing picks in practice Pete Carroll said he hits everything in practice oh okay So not in practice.

1:28:58Well, no, that could be interceptions too. Yeah. Because he didn't say what he hits. He hits literally everything in practice. Yeah. Also, shout out to Andrew Jones. He's actually made an extra$400 ,000 this year because he's won four games with over 50 % of the snaps. So he just keeps making money. Yeah. Every win. If I were, it'd probably be a bad idea because I probably wouldn't win, but it's got to feel nice to have those type of incentives. Very nice. In your contract. Very nice. Also, I think Shaq Leonard retired as a Colt at halftime. Oh. And I only bring that up just because we should all take a minute to remember how dominant Shaq Leonard was.

1:29:35He had those couple years where it's like, holy shit, how'd they find this guy? He was one of the best linebackers in football, if not the best linebacker in football for a brief period of time. And then injuries fucked him up. But he was awesome. And made me happy to see him. South Carolina State? I believe so, yeah. Yeah, he was like a rare find. It was like, holy shit, this guy's awesome. Yeah, he was a beast, and we should all take time to respect Shaq Leonard. Yes. Okay, next up, we got two more games in the early slate. Panthers 27, Dolphins 24. This looked like it was going to be another Panthers this season is officially over, dead.

1:30:15They were down so fast in this game. Bryce Young started so bad in this game. He started with a fumble and interception, really bad interception. Very bad. And it was like, oh, the Dolphins, they might have something here. And then Rico Doudle just ran the ball, and Bryce Young did just enough, and the Panthers win this game, and they had a pretty nice comeback because it did feel like it was done. Rico Doudle had 206 yards, 206 yards and a touchdown, first Carolina running back to have over 200 yards since D 'Angelo Williams in 2012. And the connection with Xavier Leggett, that might be the start of this relationship right now?

1:30:53Yeah. Finally found him in the end zone. Looked good. I also think that Ted McMillan looks awesome. Yeah, he does. And going into the draft, a lot of guys were like, I don't know. They were kind of alluding to why you wouldn't want him on your team. He looks like a great football player. But this was a passing of the torch. I know we had the passing of the torch game for Hank on Sunday Night Football. This was a passing of the torch of which team is going to quit on the season. because there was a moment in this game where it was 17-0 Panthers and then the – or sorry, Dolphins, and then the Panthers end up winning 27-24.

1:31:27So for a moment it was like the Panthers are going to quit on this season and then they took that torch and they're like gave it – they threw it basically in the Dolphins' face like, no, you quit on this season. I think it's because they – I think their coaching staff is like in theory very good. Dave Canales? I think Canales might be a good coach. it's hard to get a total evaluation of how good he is as a head coach given some of the personnel choices they've made did you see the fans in the stands there was a mixed group of Dolphins Panthers fans and they were switching back who would wear the brown paper bag on their head depending on who had scored last I thought it was going to be like who had the ball no it was just yeah if you got scored on then you switched it I like that sharing Good friends.

1:32:14I do want to talk real quick about we lost some good soldiers out there in the podcasting community this week. There was a Carolina Panthers podcast called Meow Mix that retired from podcasting. Now, I was interested in this because, you know, we're in the business. They're in the business. I wanted to kind of see what was going on. So I actually watched their last episode. It's about 30 minutes long. and shout out Steven and Jerry. They did a 30-minute podcast where they basically were like, hey, we've been doing this since 2019. The Panthers are 30 and 74 since they started doing it. They were lifelong Panthers fans.

1:32:54They're like, this is essentially ruining our lives. It's taking up so much of our time. There was one moment, I think it was Steven, who said that his kids don't even want to be Panthers fans because they see how much it bums out their dad, which is a pretty sad thing to say. But they, yeah, they were, it was just a very funny internet thing. I kind of want to get them on to talk, one of them on to talk to them. But we lost some great dudes out there. I do love the team specific podcast because they get really deep into the stuff that we can't cover on the show. Yeah. And that's where a lot of the news ends up coming from.

1:33:27Yeah. These guys that live and breathe like Carolina Panthers football. Yeah. Oh yeah, Max. They did do, they did post a, it's a win video. It's 13 minutes long. It's literally just a picture in sweet Caroline playing over on and over. I got duped by that. I was like, oh shit, they're back. They're not back. They just got us. So that means that there's a market out there for a Carolina Panthers podcast. Yeah, although it was kind of a Brett Favre retirement where they're like, I think it was Jerry said that he's still going to do draft previews. And you're like, oh, I can still see it in there.

1:34:00All right, they say, so the future of Meow Mix. Hi all, Meow Mix, a Carolina Panthers podcast. By the way, incredible name. They got to keep the IP for that. wait go back a carolina panthers podcast is going on indefinite hiatus steven and jerry have enjoyed bringing everyone our thoughts on the team since our first episode in july 30th 2019 in that time we've dedicated several hours a week to the production of the podcast be it watching film outlining the show recording editing and general planning met some incredible people and now they're just done the amount of time on sundays that we spend away from our wives and young children has become difficult to justify.

1:34:39I kind of understand that when your sole thing is covering a team like the Panthers. And if the Panthers, they put you in a bad mood around your family every week? Yeah. Yeah. We would be watching the games regardless, but locking ourselves away for six to seven hours on a Sunday just to watch and then discuss a 42 to 13 ass whipping has become more of a chore than anything else. We don't feel it's right to keep the podcast going unless we can continue to put out weekly episodes. and right now neither of us want to spend that amount of time talking about this organization. So this is why I want to talk to them.

1:35:09I got to know who brought it up first because they both were thinking about it. Like which one of them had the balls to be like, hey, why are we doing this? I got to think maybe the wives had something to do with it. You think so? They were like, listen, I need you to be a functional human being on Sundays and Mondays too. Yeah. And it's just not happening. If they, let's say the Panthers, if they tank the rest of the season, and they get another number one draft pick quarterback. Do you think they'll be back? I think they'll be back because they'll be excited again. Right now, if you're a Panthers fan, this is a great win.

1:35:42And I think it does say a lot about your coaching staff that you went down early to the Dolphins. And you won. I think they're undefeated at home. Two wins at home, right? Yeah. They were able to kind of bounce back and be a little bit resilient. I think that says something good about your coaching staff. But you probably aren't too pumped anymore about Bryce as the future. Yeah. The second you inject a little bit of hope into the guy like, what are their names again? Steven and Jerry. Steven and Jerry. A little bit of hope. Their whole lives are going to be better. Their mood's going to be better.

1:36:12Their family life is going to be better. Yeah. And they're going to get the itch to get behind the mic again. They are going to get the itch. They're definitely going to get the itch. I need the guys out there, boots on the ground, telling me how many targets to expect for Hunter Renfro this weekend. I just love their dedication since 2019. Like I said, they were 30 and 74. there was a very funny moment where they kind of talked out the realization. They're like, I don't know. Like, like, I don't know how Browns fans do it. I don't know how Raiders fans do it. We kind of realized that we're the same as them.

1:36:41I was like, damn, that's going to be a heavy moment. And they also gave shout. They're like, we met so many great people in the community. They're like RJ, Bloody Nugget, Squeaky Cheeks. These were exact quotes. Sir Perr. I just fucking love. I love, I love these guys. I love these guys. I don't know. I'm rooting for Meow Mix to make a comeback. Anyone who's that passionate and just doing it. Their wives are going to hate you. Why? Because I'm trying to get them back into it? You're going to hear this and be like the number one sports podcast. Listen, it's hard to break into this business. These guys were doing it for six years.

1:37:17I have ultimate respect for them. It's not like they had millions of listeners and followers. They were just doing it with a small community, love of the game. I love these guys. The fact that they made friends through the podcast. Squeaky cheeks. It's a good thing, yeah. Blood nugget. Guys having hobbies is important. Yeah. What if your wife just lets you do it like once a month? Yeah, what if you just do it? How about that? Once a month. They don't want to do it. What if we just do like a disclaimer like, hey, their takes are not, like, they're kind of half watching now. They're not taking notes.

1:37:47Yeah, just put it out after every win. How about that? You only, that's the treat for Panthers fans. Yeah. You win a game. Meow Mix. Meow Mix emergency episode. Emergency pod. I always love it when there's, it doesn't matter. like what the podcast is about, if they say emergency pod, I'm listening to it. I got to know how much... All right, we got to stop talking about this because I want to... Like if they're not... What? How much what? I don't think they're making a ton of money off it, if anything, but... Zero? Yeah. Maybe we just... We always joke about like the Saudis and the PIF like getting personal podcasts.

1:38:27What if PFT, what if we just bought... personal Meow Mix podcast. Oh, I thought you were going to say, what if Mohammed bin Salman sponsors Meow Mix? What if I just... Guys,$1 ,000 for a podcast after the win. I would like to... I wouldn't mind hearing it. I would like to catch... So you're going to listen to a... I like these guys. I listened to their final episode. My heart broke. So you're going to listen to a team-specific Panthers podcast every time they win a game? Maybe. He listened on 1.5 speed. I listened to their last one on one point. They're not going to win that many more games, Max.

1:39:02Come on, Max. I think the Panthers are a little frisky. All right. Well, we should talk to them. They are. Yeah, they are. It's a good home team. I think so. That's what I'm saying. They're frisky. Memes, do you disagree? Yeah, at home. At home. At home is a very good point. They're not nearly as much of a bummer as they were last year. Yeah, memes. That Patriots game last week was a bummer. That was bad. Yeah, but that was on the road. That was on the road. That literally got Meow Mix off air. That loss. They're literally undefeated at home. Yeah. They are a wagon at home. Dude, you're a Meow Mix guy, right, Memes?

1:39:32Like, you respect the fuck out of these guys, right? Oh, yeah. But I also respect them quitting. Yeah, I do. I had that same exact conversation today with myself. Wait, what? Quitting. The Jets. Oh. Oh, the Jets, yeah, yeah. Not this job. No. Memes, would you say that this job is - Oh, yeah. At any point in the last five days, did you have a Meow Mix type of conversation about quitting your job? Yeah like moving to Alaska or something What the fuck would you do in Alaska You'd fucking just be the GM of the Jets And sit in home And there's a son No there isn't in Alaska 48 days 48 hours Memes would you say that this job has a Positive impact on your mental health

1:40:20During football season no No But that goes for all of us that's true like i love hank shut the fuck up fuck you hank fuck you you piece of shit you shut i know you're not talking but shut the fuck up smiling don't say what you were about to say you piece of shit he won the hungry dog one time in the last fucking 24 months and he's he's you're like billy when he was like i feel bad that's what you're doing right now

1:40:48i patriots have brought me great mental health in my life in your life yes um yeah no memes The football season isn't good for any of us, like, mentally.

1:41:02We just got to be stronger than Meow Mix, guys. Yeah. Today was a bad day. Yeah. Listen, Meow Mix, they're not done. No, they're not. You know what, Cats? Not if I pay for them. The thing about Cats, they got nine lives. Yeah. They'll be back. Yeah. Hold on to that IP, Meow Mix. All right, so that's Steven and Jerry, Meow Mix. Good job, Panthers. Number one pussy pod. Yeah. All right. Real quick. Texans 44, Ravens 10. PFT, I got a question for you. I got an answer. You remember a couple weeks ago when you're like, should we have a conversation about CJ Straub? Mm-hmm. And he has since, he's had a very good couple weeks.

1:41:44He had 244 yards. He was 23 for 27, 244 yards, four touchdowns today. He looked really good. He also cleared up the whole explosiveness thing saying it was a joke. Can't believe he actually called the toxic parts of NFL Twitter, which I think is just us. No, not just us. No, but like we are part of that. I'd say we're no. But when it comes to Stroud specifically, I don't know. We're Stroud boys. He was saying on the explosive clip. I was literally joking. Everybody takes everything out of context nowadays. I still can't believe that clip blew up like it did. I thought it was a fun genuine answer and said toxic NFL Twitter ran with it in negative light I don't mean we're not I don't think we're toxic NFL Twitter I do think we probably bring up toxic NFL Twitter on this show and maybe sometimes help toxic NFL Twitter get a bigger light that part's true I also think that maybe some of the graphics that we put out yeah especially the ones where certain people look fat yeah we're doing a joke we're not doing it in a toxic listen I'm we're victims too of toxic nfl twitter it's just our own twitter account yeah right right uh so we you're like we should we have a conversation about cj stroud he's looked good since then should we have a conversation about derrick henry uh what kind of conversation are you thinking about having uh let me give you a blind resume okay okay that's the best way to solve anything all right uh running back one has played one game this year 169 yards two touchdowns okay running back two has played four games this year and he has 148 yards and two touchdowns okay i'm thinking running back two is derrick henry yeah and running back one how many games one game 169 yards two touchdowns one full game and the other running back had uh for four weeks 148 yards and two touchdowns who's who's running back one also derrick henry week one derrick henry had 169 yards two touchdowns since that week one game he has had 148 yards total and two touchdowns okay so yes should we have a conversation about derrick let's have it right now he had 15 carries today 33 yards Cooper Rush was starting that makes it a lot harder Cooper Rush is seems like a nice guy bummer of a quarterback to watch another team that should have Jameis Winston as their backup I know we signed up Jameis Winston for like six teams at this point but give me Jameis over Cooper Rush but Derek Henry has not had a strong start to the season outside of the week one game against the buffalo bills he has been pretty much shut down he's had games where he hasn't had a lot of carries uh he's so here's here's his yardage week two 23 yards week three 50 yards week four 42 yards week five 33 yards should we have a conversation about derrick henry so the usage thing is you can actually make an argument about that yeah that they haven't been given the ball that much yeah they weren't really in a position to run the football and i think that explains some of it but it doesn't explain all of it it's really what happened is since that fumble derrick henry hasn't been the same so what happened since the fumble against the lions the the third week is that what you're talking about no i was talking about the first oh yeah at the very end of the bills game yeah so at the very end of that game when he fumbled ed oliver punched it out they lost the game he went to he's he fell down into the chair and since that moment he hasn't been the same guy are you saying the best the fall down chair was the lions one i think i think that i think that was the bill okay yeah he's fumbled three times it might have been the line right it might have been the line yeah so he's fumbled a few times but since that fumble really he was the one against the bills yeah he's been a different guy yeah the lions being the next best game that he had yep where he had 12 carries for 50 yards and that one touchdown and also a bad fumble at the end of it but 12 yeah 12 carries for 50 yards still not like up to derrick henry level production where in that first game it was like this is the old derrick henry hasn't lost a single step no he's going to be the same guy but i mean this is not like i hope he turns around i love watching derrick henry play he is 31 years old he's been really really good for a really long time and again cooper rush complicates things they can stack the box they can basically say cooper rush is not going to beat us with his arm we'll make sure Derek Henry doesn't uh go off but yeah it's been a weird start to the season for him because his best like yards per carry uh outside of that first week was the game against the Chiefs where he only got the ball eight times so I don't know what's going on if they're maybe saving him but what are you saving him for they're one in four now the Ravens are in like deep deep waters wouldn't you agree I would agree and I know that I said that I thought that John Harbaugh was going to be safe.

1:46:42But if they have a couple more losses like this, where they just kind of gave up, they were slow. They did not look like they wanted to be out there. They weren't hustling at all. I feel like those are the kind of losses that could get a coach when you really have lost the team. It gets away from you. They have already tied the record for most 35-plus points given up in a Ravens season with four. Four times they've given up 35-plus points already this season. We're in week five. They're the first team in Super Bowl era to allow 37-plus in four out of their first five games. I don't think the Ravens are going to – Can I tell you what – I don't know if they're going to turn it around.

1:47:23I think this is going to be the season from hell for the Ravens, and next year will be, hey, we forgot about the Ravens. Here's my conversation that I'm willing to entertain about Derrick Henry, though. Okay. Patrick Ricard hasn't played this year. he's a fullback yep patrick ricard is the most important running back on the ravens yeah slash tight end slash fullback slash fullback without him out there blocking for derrick it's a lot harder yeah yeah get patrick what is his calf it's like a leg i don't know once what that's my prediction once patrick ricard gets back out there and starts running over people this 6 '2", 310-pound body, I feel like that changes things for that rushing attack.

1:48:06Also, having Lamar back is going to be obviously a big impact, too. And they do have a little bit of a softer schedule coming up because they're kind of in the camp of the Eagles where they've played. The Texans defense is elite, and C.J. Stroud has been playing well the last two weeks. It feels like the Texans are on the right path to figuring it out, so all credit to Texans. The Ravens have had to play the Bills, the Lions, the Chiefs, and now the Texans, their other game being their one win against the Browns. So they have not had an easy schedule to start. It softens up a little. In fact, it softens up to the point where I've already circled it.

1:48:45I think Lamar is going to come back after the bye week. I think they're going to lose to the Rams next week. They're going to start 1-5. They're going to come back after the bye week, play the Bears, kick the shit out of the Bears, and everyone's going to be like, the Ravens are back. that's that's like your worst case scenario for you but it also is like very likely it could happen very likely yeah if you get if you get a couple weeks to rest and get healthy that's gonna be big they were missing a lot of guys again i think humphrey didn't play right uh stanley the tackle is out and they have they've got like a laundry list kyle hamilton roquan smith was out you know they're very banged up okay i don't think they're a bad team when fully healthy but right now they They have let up a ton of points.

1:49:26Derrick Henry has looked not great. Lamar is hurt. They've lost some big time games that they, you know, were right there to win, especially week one. It feels like season from hell. And it's again, it's not like the Ravens organization is bad or they won't be able to figure out going forward in the future. But this might be their season from hell. Do you think that CJ Stroud kind of kind of little bro the Ravens afterwards? What do you say? He loves a little bro. And you know that he does love a little bro. He just said, like, they're banged up. They're hurting. He said, I think they'll be just fine once they get these guys back.

1:50:01I think it's just big. We had the same problem last year when we played them. We had a lot of guys out on Christmas Day, and then they gave us an old-fashioned. And so he's like, hey, I've been through that too, Ravens. Yeah. Hey, I know where you're at. It's going to get better. You just keep your head down in there. You get your guys back. You'll be okay. All right, buddy? Yeah. All right, little bro. Get back out there. Call me if you need anything. Bless up. Yeah, CJ Stroud has been awesome. Yeah, 478 yards, six touchdowns the last two games, zero turnover-worthy plays. And if he plays like that, this Texans team is scary because their defense is ferocious.

1:50:35Like, they fuck people up on defense. They do. Okay. Yeah, I'm just – I didn't know if we needed to have a conversation about Derek Henry or not. I think the conversation is Patrick Ricard. Okay. That's fair. Yeah. That's fair. Oh, Pinky, yeah. Texans. Yeah. they're looking good. They played the Titans last week. They did. But they're – I mean, the Texans need to start winning games. They won two games in a row. I think their defense is an elite unit. They'll have a big game against the Seahawks at the Seahawks, Monday Night Football, and I think they have the bye now. So they'll get a little healthy.

1:51:12That will be a big test. But wouldn't you say, like, the Texans – who would you rather be right now? I mean, I know that Lamar's hurt, but the Texans have the bones of a team that could make a run still. I think the Ravens don't right now. I also think this is a joke. I think the Texans are getting healthier, too. Yeah. They have receivers. Yeah. Whereas you could look at last year for the Texans, especially at the end of the season, be like, well, they're fucked. They have nothing that they can do offensively now. And now they do have guys making plays. Yeah. we'll get back to the games in a second but first of all they're brought to you by our great friends at proper 12 irish whiskey it's pft here i'm making my irish entrance with proper number 12 irish whiskey how do you make an irish entrance you ask it starts with a shot of proper number 12 irish whiskey because real friends don't let fringe irish exit a party without a story to tell original proper number 12 is a rich and smooth blend of golden grain single malt aged four years and bourbon barrels.

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1:54:14And it was so low stakes, and I don't mean that in a mean way, but the Titans are 0-4 or going into this game were 0-4. The Cardinals had lost two in a row. It didn't feel important, and then it just happened. It was just like, what the fuck just happened? And the Cardinals play in a lot of these kinds of games, a lot of the chaotic games. So this is, they are the first team in NFL history to lose three straight games on a score in the final play of the fourth quarter. Yeah, walk-off kicks. Walk-off kicks. Three straight weeks. It just keeps happening to the Cardinals. And it's not like we can say that they're snake-bitten, because I guess they are the snake.

1:54:52Yeah. They're also biting themselves. And they do it to themselves over and over and over again. They had the classic, oops, I dropped the ball on the one-inch line when I'm about to score a touchdown. Yeah, so it started with that. Well, it actually started with Kyler Murray having to go to the locker room because he might have gotten concussed from a snap. Well, yeah, so what happened with that was he got hit in the head by a snap, and then he went to the blue tent, and he kind of wobbled off the field. Schefter reported that too, that he was going to the locker room for evaluation. And then very soon after, he clarified that it was like a foot thing that he was looking at, which I'm sure somebody in Cardinals PR hit up Adam Schefter and said, hey, can you please stop making people think that he got concussed by the snap?

1:55:34Yeah. I think he got concussed by the snap. It looked like he might have gotten concussed by the snap. He got his bell rung by the snap. Not a good look for short kick. Yeah, he got smacked right in the face with a snap. And then he didn't really try to pick it up. No, a little business decision. But yeah, there was a moment in this game. The Cardinals were dominating this game. It was 21-6. The Titans were the same Titans. Can't win a game. Look really bad. And then Amari DiMarcado had a 72-yard run for the Cardinals, walking into the end zone to go up 28-6 with 1240 in the fourth quarter. He drops the ball right before he crosses the goal line.

1:56:16I cannot believe, like I believe that this still can happen. I cannot believe this can happen a week after it happened. This is one of those things that a ball being dropped on the goal line from a guy running in, it will happen maybe once a year because we've forgotten that it could happen. It literally happened last week, and then it happened again. And it might have cost their team the game last week. Yeah. And then it cost the Colts. The Colts game. Yeah. And then DiMarcato does it on, like, this is as close as you can get. He's, like, on the one-inch line. But still. And then also, shout out to the safety that chased him down.

1:56:52the ball goes out of bounds and he does the like incomplete side like a db would do on an overthrown ball the like worst example of that i've seen good for him celebrating that yeah and then we had the craziest play where cam ward threw an interception uh on like what was it the the 10 yard line so they're in the red zone he throws an interception the cardinals player intercepts the ball, then fumbles the ball, and it squirts into the end zone, and the Titans recover it in the end zone for a touchdown. So Cardinals guy intercepts it, squirts out, another Cardinals player goes to pick it up, kicks it, kicks it in the end zone, Titans player falls on the end zone, touchdown Titans.

1:57:38This was insane. This whole thing was insane. This was if you're playing Mario Kart and you're losing, and then you get the lightning bolts and then you get to just shrink everybody down to size and pass them yeah that's what was happening with the titans at the end of this game and the the fumbling the ball at the one inch line it's a problem that i it puzzles me every time it doesn't matter how long it's been since i've seen it i don't really understand it but i do it might be like when uh if a plane crashes it's more likely that another plane is going to crash right after that i think it should be the opposite yeah yeah you'd think that it would go the other way but it's like way more likely that bad stuff continues to happen.

1:58:16It's crazy. Because they see another guy do it, and they're like, oh, that's kind of cool, Loki. That was kind of cool. I might try to celebrate it. But, yeah, good for the Titans. I'm happy for them. The locker room speech afterwards by Callahan, it was very funny because they were celebrating a win, but they had no business with it. They were like, how did we win this game? They didn't really – I mean, they did – the final drive was awesome. That's got to be one of the funniest ways for a quarterback to get his first career win. Yeah. And he was awesome in that fourth quarter, and he did get them, you know, got them down into field goal range.

1:58:46Also, the Titans defense, like, made some big stops to stop because the Cardinals could have won the game. After all that happened, the Cardinals still could have gotten a first down and won the game, and the Titans defense bowed up. But holy shit, what a game. It was so chaotic in that fourth quarter, and it was such a nothing game for the first three quarters. But I'm happy for Titans fans because guess what? But maybe you just never lose again after Cam Ward said that to keep it a buck, we ass. Yeah. 1-0 since then. Now you've got to stack them. That's what Callahan said. You've got to stack wins like these.

1:59:19Stack some wins. I'm happy for Titans fans. This has been a bummer of a season for them. They haven't had anything to look forward to. On Monday morning, if you're a Titans fan, you're going to wake up the happiest you've been to start a week in a very, very long time. And the way they scored that touchdown with the interception and fumble, that was a – if you had told me that happened, I would have said it would have happened to the Titans, not for the Titans. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's some gunslinger shit, though, throwing a productive interception. Yeah. Perfectly paced ball for the Cardinals defender to then fumble it.

1:59:51I was trying to remember the last time that happened. The only other time I can remember an interception and then the guy that picked it off fumbling and then a touchdown, I think it was the Saints against the Redskins back in the mid-2000s. It happened right before halftime. But you never see that in the game. It's electric when it does. Very electric. I'm also – the computer power rankings had the Cardinals under the tier, sick of their shit. I feel like they nailed that. I'm sick of the Cardinals' shit. I just am. It's not good. I am. Cortez had a new helmet, too. Do you see that? The black one?

2:00:28Yeah, it was cool. it was awesome i just i feel bad for cardinals fans they're you're sick of cortez's shit no oh well you made that i was just making sure and the way you know i said i'm sick of the cardinal shit and then i was like and he had a new helmet to like like he was he looked fresh the cortez deserves better yeah they all deserve better the cardinals have had some pretty bummer seasons ownership franchise history they have oh also kyler murray might have had the funniest incompletion of all time today which one was slash oh yeah grounding so he spins around twice in the pocket and then sees a guy coming towards him and he just he just quits on the play he's just like here get get rid of the ball don't tackle me i don't have i don't have the ball anymore i don't have the ball anymore don't tackle me uh that was that was a very very sad play to watch he was literally playing hot potato with the ball yeah here you take it also we should have mentioned spencer rattler did throw a ball that got tipped back into him he completed the pass to himself then tried to throw it again yes forgot to mention that yeah that was funny you should be allowed to do that yeah i'm sick of the cardinal shit i'm just uh i i'm just i'm done with the cardinal shit it's been a long time since i've like truly enjoyed watching the cardinals play football yeah because they'll do things every now and then and they'll have stretches where they'll look like a functional fun offense and then it will just it's such a funny it's so funny yeah him just flipping it here you take it no it's like it's like if you get caught stealing yeah when you're a kid at a store and then you just drop the stuff and run away i don't have anymore i don't have anymore yeah i can't get in trouble i'm not playing video games mom look controller's not in my hand.

2:02:08Here, whoa. Alright, next game. Lions 37, Bengals 24. I'm listen. I read you the stats on Friday. just bet the Lions every week all they do is cover it doesn't matter the spread they are a covering machine this one was a no doubter even Jake Browning you know getting hot in the fourth quarter in garbage time didn't matter the Lions are just so fucking good they're so fucking good their defense is awesome Aiden Hutchinson is an absolute beast he was everywhere Kirby Joseph had another interception the Lions had five different guys score a touchdown It was Gibbs, Laporta, Tesla, Brock Wright St.

2:02:54Brown Montgomery, not St. Brown And then David Montgomery also threw a touchdown Jared Goff was just killing them, slicing them up They're just so good They are They're just so good Just bet the Lions Bet the Lions and retire This game was never in jeopardy for the Lions By the way, new onside kick dropped I saw a couple teams try this this week Where they do the side spin thing and it looks like that's the one that's going to be able to be recovered more. But even though the Bengals were theoretically kind of still thinking they had a chance if everything broke their way, the Lions dominated this game from start to finish.

2:03:31And I have a Jake Browning take, though. I think he might now have flipped over into the side of quarterback where he is exciting to watch because you just don't know how much worse the interceptions can get. Yes, I would agree with that. I don't think that they're bummer interceptions to watch. I get excited watching him throw a kick. Yeah. Do you know the perfect description of Jake Browning and what the Bengals did in this game? Do you know that at the start of the third quarter, that Jamar Chase was the leading tackler for the Cincinnati Bengals? Yeah. He had three. He finished the game. He had three tackles on three interceptions.

2:04:12He finished the game with three. He was the second leading tackler at the end of the game. In the third quarter, he was the leading tackler for the Cincinnati Bengals with three tackles because Jake Browning just kept on throwing the ball to the other team. Yeah, their leading tackler had four on the day. Jamar Chase had three on the day. Also, credit to Jamar Chase. Yeah. Good for him. If you're thinking that he's not trying, he is trying. Yeah. He's basically Travis Hunter. Yeah. He's trying hard. Yeah. I mean, also, the fact that he has three tackles, like Jake Browning is also trying to get the ball to march chase.

2:04:48It doesn't work all the time. In fact, it works not a lot of times, but they're trying. And Jake Browning did get hot at the end, but it was also garbage time. So I don't really know. I don't know how much you can take. Yeah, it was big time garbage time. And Zach Taylor, I think, is just sticking with Jake Browning. I don't think he is bizarre. I mean, you explained it. They don't want to sell. They don't want to pay anybody else. Yeah, yeah. Because he's still writing those checks to Joe Burrow, who's not playing, and he doesn't like that. Yeah. He said that Zach Taylor said he's confident they're going to get it fixed.

2:05:28He's confident. They got to flex Thanksgiving night if we don't get another quarterback. So I know that you can flex some games. Can you flex Thanksgiving? I don't think so. I would say no. Also, the state of Michigan is kind of owning the state of Ohio right now. Not even a Michigan-Ohio state conversation. Talking MLB? I'm talking Lions beating the Bengals and the Browns by a combined score of 71-34, and then the Tigers taking out the Guardians all in one week. That was just in these last seven days what Michigan has done to Ohio. Have we ever had a player who was the leading receiver and the leading tackler on the same team?

2:06:08I don't know. Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter. Yeah, I don't think he's done it. I don't think he has either. Jamar Chase is the Travis Hunter of the NFL. There were so many Lions fans there. You see they tried to do a stripe out where they had sections. That's mean to do a stadium design on the road. It kind of worked. Look at it. Hold on. See if you can find the stripe out. Get us a picture of the stripe out. Is Max looking for a landscape? Lions don't have stripes, though. I don't know. I think they were trying to out, or they're taking out the stripes of the, I don't know what they were doing.

2:06:46They might have tried to demolish the stripe out. They were trying to stripe the stands. Wipe it out. Like, yeah, wipe out the stripe out. That's not it. Because it seems to me like the Bengals would try to do a stripe out, and then the Lions would try to mess up the stripe out. Yeah, maybe. No, do Lions, oh, you're, whoa. Do Lions fans Bengals? Careful. What? just be careful with them. You guys are good now. I'm worried about you. Yeah, you're right. The Bengals... Yeah, look. Look at that first tweet. There might be more Lions fans than Bengals fans. Oh, yeah. The Bengals are attempting to stripe their stadium today.

2:07:24Lions fans are going to make that... Oh, yeah, striping it out. Yeah. They're taking away the stripe out. Yes, they're wiping out the stripe out. That's what they're doing. They did a pretty good job. There was a shitload of Lions fans. For a second, I was like, it's been a long day, but I'm pretty sure that Tigers have stripes. They did kind of wipe out the stripe out. Yeah, they did a good job. Like, that's not a stripe out. Because I think some of that is also the stadium. Yeah. Maybe the colors of the seats. I don't know. That was a stupid conversation. That was idiot jazz. I'm sorry. But I just thought I'd bring it up.

2:07:55No, we got there. Lions fans got there. Yeah, yeah. We got home. We'll get back to Pardon My Take in a second. It's brought to you by Campbell's Chunky. We've got a Chunky Mantry set up right here in our studio. Great commercial. Great commercial with Ms. Jackson. and Jaden Daniels and Tyler Biotis. It's a great, great soup. I love Chunky. It's soup season. The Chunky Mantri is a place where one can do and or get everything they crave from one spot. You can eat delicious food, watch football. You can listen to your favorite sports podcast. It's a place to authentically exist as a Chunky and a football lover.

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2:09:04I'm craving more Commanders games like that. Shout out, Jaden. Great game today. He was powered by Chunky Mantri. His Chunky Mantri fueled up, got better. Matt Stafford can have his healing bed. Jaden Daniels has the Chunky Mantri, and we're thinking soupy. Chunky is everything you crave. No matter what you crave or when you crave it, Chunky delivers 110%. And now back to more part of my take. All right, wrapping up. We got two more games. commanders 27 chargers 10 pft how much credit uh are we giving to jayden daniels having the wherewithal to change his cleats everything changed after he changed his cleats literally everything changed that that is a man that he knows what his body does and when it doesn't work by the way he was totally healthy he looked good when he was right he didn't have any like big explosive runs today but he was moving moving good and uh i think he's yeah jayden's back Jaden's back.

2:09:59He looked good. And he looked great, especially after he changed the cleats. What really changed that game around was the Quentin Johnson fumble. I was going to say there was a few plays. There was actually a few very pivotal plays. It was Quentin Johnson fumble. It was Jaden Daniels' third and 16 conversion when they were down 10-0 because it felt like the game, like if they had punted there, the Chargers go back down the field. And then it was also the roughing the kicker at the end of the half where probably the coolest punt return touchdown that will not stand by Ladd McConkie where he juked Tressway.

2:10:33Tressway looked like he was in the Matrix. He hurdled him, yeah. But he also juked him before he hurdled him, so he mistimed his jump. But it was all for naught, and then the commanders get to tie up the game in half, and it was just like avalanche from there. So the reason I say it was that fumble, the Quentin Johnson fumble, everything changed at that point because at the start of the game, the Chargers were dominant. Justin Herbert looked incredible. the offense was moving at like a very steady pace we couldn't get anything going on our offense but after that fumble well let me set it up this way before that fumble the chargers had 167 yards 6.4 yards per play after the fumble they had 169 yards total for the rest of the game 4.4 yards per play the commanders were averaging 3.8 yards per play they only had 30 yards before that fumble after that fumble they averaged 7.6 yards per play 359 yards of offense literally everything changed in that in that one moment was that also during the that was also kind of around the cleat change it was around the cleat change but that that i think he had the cleats for the first like three drives or so yes and then he changed them well here here's the thing i speak frankly on this podcast yeah we speak truthfully yeah hank when you have an offense that you have a star and people forget about him they're silent when he comes back and shuts everybody up you don't you don't hear the same energy and today the luke mcafree haters are silent it's true i didn't hear a single thing he was awesome he was awesome today luke with it was a downfield threat uh and jayden was good too it was a it was a good like two and a half quarters where we were just dominant and it looked like the uh the offense from last year for a little bit so that that was good to see now the chargers did also i think they lost another guy on their offensive line and that made a big difference because we're getting a lot of pressure on just service hell he was in hell and he's he's a great quarterback he was still making plays um but it seemed like they just couldn't get anything there was no push up front and then the other big story bill today was bill's coming out game bill had two touchdowns every time he touched the ball he looked like he was a threat to get a first down he was awesome he's just like the shiftiness that he has even before he gets the line of scrimmage is unreal and also we're partnering up with bill we're doing a merch collab so get your bill shirts on the barstool store support bill i'm wearing it right now i've got let's see i think i got some others here the bill dozer is my personal favorite right here oh this is just call me bill and it's bill bill's electric and then the bill dozer uh he's a great player and it was a fun game to watch for a little bit but at the start it was just it was a bad bad first quarter and the the dark thoughts that i expressed on this podcast last week were starting to bubble up a little bit and then the cleats changed the fumble happened and now i'm now i'm all now you're back i'm all back do you have does shane have the football can you tell shane to bring in the football yeah we won the football i won the football from shane I don't I heard him talking in the cave like that was not legally binding Shane created a graphic for it he has did memes make the graphic of the football fat?

2:13:52no it was an official Shane graphic I put you guys double teaming the football oh nice Shane do you have the football for PFT? I do are you going to give the football up? I don't know I think we should have a discussion about it Okay, let's have the discuss. Okay, so we made the bet. Yep. Did you just speak Italian? What? Did you say we made a bet? I don't think so. We made the bet. We made the bet, and at the beginning the charges were up 10-0. And then PFT screamed to me, good game, Shane. And I think we should discuss if that's concession or not. Oh, did you concede? I said good game, Shane.

2:14:37It's like you're giving up. Like you're saying as if the game is over. First of all, you didn't accept, even if it was a concession. You didn't say thank you. How do you know I didn't accept? Because I didn't hear you. Maybe just didn't say it loud enough. No, because I think if you had accepted, you would have said, actually, yes, I did say. Were you trying to concede? That's not an official concession. That's not an official concession. Were you trying to concede, though? It's a reverse jinx. Okay. So, yeah, you got to give him the full point. And it worked. Okay. I thought we should just talk about it.

2:15:03I'm cool with giving it to him, but. Are you cool, Shane? Because I saw you. I was walking around the office this afternoon after the game was over, and I saw you just very sadly out on the basketball court with the football by yourself. One last walk. Throwing the football and trying to throw it into the basketball hoop. Yeah. By yourself. Yeah, I'm sad about it. RG3. You're saying goodbye to it? Yeah, perfect football. PFT's going to eat it now and just. I might fuck it. I don't know. But no, you're right. I'm going to eat that one, too. It is a great football. It is a good football. It's a really good football.

2:15:38It's just. All right. Shane, do you have anything to add about the Chargers today? Hmm. I have too much to add about it, but I think the showing they've put on the last couple weeks have been pathetic. Yeah. Yeah. Like, we had a practice squad offensive line. I think I saw a stat today. Justin Herbert. The Cowboys. Justin Herbert's been pressured 50 times in the last two weeks. Fuck you. Yeah. Go on. And his average time to pressure is 2.1 seconds. I wasn't even on purpose. So it's been tough. Really tough. Yeah. It's been very tough. I also don't think Omari and Hampton is going to win Offensive Rookie of the Year.

2:16:18Why? Because there's a guy named Emeko Buka. That's fair. Yeah. Five weeks. Yeah. There's also a guy named Bill. And also, Omari and Hampton is hurt in a walking boot? Fantasy Doc said it was precautionary, he thinks. Bone bruise. Oh, okay. Not confirmed. Fun stat, Jaden Daniels is the only player in NFL history with 4 ,000 pass yards and 1 ,000 rush yards in his first 20 career games. Whoa. Pretty good. That is pretty good. He's back. Jaden's back. Did you see Keenan Allen was the fastest wide receiver to 1 ,000 receptions? That's a very funny, like, 1 ,000 receptions is a lot of receptions. When you think about a guy, like, an incredible year is 100 receptions.

2:17:03it's just very funny to see the words like fastest with keenan allen who's 33 years old but he is fastest 159 games yeah he's been great for a long time great route runner love watching him operate um also credit to mikey sanders still great interception he he kind of fucked things up at the start of the game he jumped off sides on the field goal attempt which then let the chargers score touchdown instead of a field goal and then got pretty much the game ceiling pick at the end of it yeah there's a lot of good stuff like i was very happy watching the second half of this game today. But Debo looked great.

2:17:36The offensive line looked really, really good. And the defense played well for, I'd say, a majority of the game. So I'm a happy boy. Yeah. Feels good to be happy about your football team. Yeah. There you go. And optimistic. And you get a football. And I get a football. A great, perfect football. Maybe the best football. Are you going to let Shane get a visitation? Yeah, like every other weekend? Nights and weekends. I'm sure he'll do that anyways when I'm not around. I don't know if I want to see it post-fuck. Shane, listen, I'm not going to fuck the football. I don't think I can look at it the same.

2:18:11Not going to fuck. I might eat it. Okay. All right, Shane. I'm a giving lover. Give it over. Bring it in here. Give me the football. Give me the football. And now, next game, big cat. Yeah. For the commanders. Yeah. It's part of my take bowl. Yeah. we're going to talk baseball at the end of the show but there's a chance for an outside chance because both the Cubs and the Phillies thank you Shane it's incredible football the Cubs and Phillies are both 0-1 or down 0-1 in their series but if there is a God who wants to torture this podcast next Monday could potentially just be like pardon my take Armageddon because if they both advance, it would be Bears-Commanders and Phillies-Cubs game one on Monday night.

2:19:03I've noticed a trend around Chicago, and I love Bears fans. I don't have any animosity towards the Bears. In fact, I want them. Sounds like you do. The next statement's going to be you do. No, no, no. I'm saying I don't, but I've noticed that they've been real dicks about the Commanders recently. How so? Bears fans. Just like random Bears fans that I'll see in public, might not they they don't have anything to do with part of my take i think they probably know who you are no no like older people you you know this yeah you saw it i told hank about it right after it happened okay but i was what so one guy no it's it i've talked to a lot of bears fans because i wear commander shit like almost every day yeah so i'll be either like randomly grouped up with one on the golf course uh going through the airport see a bunch of them at the bank the other day when the guy was just like fuck you because i was wearing command i've noticed they're they're very very down on the commanders well the hail mary was pretty that ended the entire season yeah they like was just catastrophically bad they're down on the command they're they're up on caleb they're down on jayden and they they've made it personal for me now oh okay now now it's a little bit personal i would i would say at least some of those people probably are listeners not the not the ones i'm talking about which is okay how many times i don't have like a log i don't i don't read i don't write them down probably seven or eight seven or eight strangers wow just being like one hit wonder when they when they talk about jayden yeah it's interesting huh i mean caleb gets a lot of shit talked about him he does everywhere he does if i went anywhere I'd probably get a lot of Caleb's talk I'm just saying maybe I should start keeping a log yeah keep a log I'd like to see the log you don't believe him I believe it's happened when he starts asking for specifics that's when he doesn't believe it we are pretty recognizable guys the singers definitely would talk shit in a fun way I don't include those I'm fine with if someone's like I love the show they're like fuck you Jaden sucks.

2:21:20Whatever. That's fine. They're fucking around. I'm saying in the wild, I've noticed a lot of one-hit wonder Jaden. Caleb's here now. How many times do you think it's happening? I believe it's happened. A couple times. I mean, he said the bank one happened the other day. The one happened in the airport the other day. That's really all I know about. But I could see it. Okay. It'll be a fun Monday night. Yeah. It's going to be fun. I don't think it's a one-hit wonder. He's very good. I think the bad man's back. Jaden is the bad man? He's the bad man. But good guy. Great guy. Have we whose line is it anyway?

2:21:55No. It's a tattoo bet. What do you guys think? Probably Commander's like four and a half. I think Commander. That sounds about right. It's a can't exist bowl for me. It might be Commander. You don't have to be here. I'm going to guess Commander. Commander's... What did you say? Is it four and a half? Three and a half. It's three and a half. Okay. DraftKings Sportsbook. We'll see. I think the Bears are still... Then you can come. I think the Commanders are still a better team than the Bears. We'll see if the Bears can... Bi-week helps a lot, but we have only beaten the Raiders and the Cowboys, so I'm not getting super ahead of myself.

2:22:41This was a scheduled loss, so anything else that happens, a tie or a win, would be bonus. I'm hoping Terry gets back, but Debo looked good. Luke looked good without him. For the show's sake, 1-1. 1-1 is great. The universe evens it out, yeah. Because then you guys can just semantically argue. And people, please be nice to PFT in public. No. It's fucked up. We don't want any more PFT Smollett. But you can't. I'm 100 % not. I'm saying something that I've noticed. Like, I've noticed. The people he's talking about don't listen. So that's true. Yeah. True. We got to get it. Tell other people. If you see an older person, tell them what the noticing is more them saying like already looking down their nose at Jaden being like, Caleb's better.

2:23:31I mean, last year was horrific how it unfolded, which is why it's been shocking to hear. Like, and I'm nice to him. I'm like, we'll see. I guess we'll find out when they play each other. Yeah. I wouldn't get ahead of myself and say that Caleb, I don't think you can reasonably say Caleb is better than Jaden Daniels given last year and four five weeks of this season that's a little ahead of yourself I think having two weeks where he's out you people forget yeah we'll forget look good today in the second half are you just looking for bulletin board material well no when it when it presents itself I I remember it a little bit you I don't know why big cat thinks I'm making this up I don't think you're making it up I don't think it's happened seven or eight a wild thing to think that I'm I don't think seven or seven or eight times seems like a lot of times.

2:24:14I'm more just going off of the Luke McCaffrey haters from last week. Yeah, well, that's obviously way worse. Everyone hates Luke. I think one or two people have definitely done that. That makes sense. But I'm making up the other five. I think seven or eight's a lot of people to just randomly be like one hit wonder out of nowhere. But maybe it's happening. It'd be a wild thing to make up. Did you see his post-game dap up with Juju? No. It was a great dap. Great dap. What happened? They did an extremely intricate dap through a group of reporters, and it was probably the second best dap that he's ever done.

2:24:50You being number one? Possibly. Let me see it. You got a Jaden Daniels hand fetish. His elbow looked good today, too. Hand-offs. Wait, this is his dap with Juju from USC. Yeah, clean dap. Is that clean? Yeah, you're right. I guess mine was better. what the fuck are they doing? They're playing like... I don't know what they're doing. I think they have a special handshake. Yeah. Okay. This other woman is really the star of the show. And she just gets... She's way in there. Yeah. She's getting weird. That's not your moment, lady. What are you doing? All right. Last game. Bucks 38, Seahawks 35. Zach.

2:25:42The Bucs are the funnest team in the NFL, bar none. So much fun to watch. Not even close. Why does it have to always be at the end of the game? But still, I'll take it. I'll take it every week. Doesn't matter. The Bucs are the most fun team in the NFL. Baker Mayfield is awesome. He had 379 yards. He is the first player in NFL history to have 375-plus yards with less than five incompletions. What a stud. And I would like to say Mike Evans out. Mbuket just picked up like business usual. Bam. Looking great, looking fantastic. That's what's super impressive for a rookie to be doing this and to be the go-to guy.

2:26:18You have an option number one, a true guy that will get open, win you the games. It's very impressive what Abuka's done. He's like, oh, it's my turn to go? Okay, all right, Jets on. Let's go. Full force. He's in it. I love it. It's so awesome, man. From a fan's perspective, this is great. I'm thinking we'd do this again. I'd like to see them do it again next week. Yeah. This is a great game across the board. Sam Donald played really good, too. Great game unless you are a scout or front office that has moved on from San Donald or Baker Mayfield. This had to be the game from hell for you because they both balled out and it basically was like, hey, you guys fucked all of this up.

2:26:55Yeah, and that's what they said. That was Baker's bulletin board material going to the game because he has to find something. And so a reporter just asked him about, okay, what about your good times that you had together? He's like, yeah, it was Carolina. There were no good times. Oh, yeah. No, I said that quote on Friday. Yeah. Nope. Yeah. So that's what they – he has to dig and find something to get pissed off about. And I don't know what he's going to do next because it's the Niners next weekend. So what is Baker going to – what's he going to manufacture to hate about the Niners? He'll figure out something.

2:27:26It's – He'll get something. Shanahan went to Texas. Yeah. Red River Rivalry Week. That's easy. Yeah, there we go. That's what he's going to hang on. But, yeah, this game was – it was awesome just back and forth, back and forth. And really, it looked like at the start of it that Seattle was not going to be competitive. And then something happened. Yeah. What happened, Zach? I agree. It was a nice little 13-0 lead, and then they sneak one in with like six seconds left going into the half, making a one-score game. It was Jackson Smith and Jigba. It did it twice. The Ohio State receivers. It was basically Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold just hooking up with their Ohio State receivers and dominating the other team, and it just became a shootout in the second half.

2:28:13We were in a good spot twice, and they just back-to-backed us. Like, all right, we'll come through a little lead here. It'll be all right. And then they're like, no, no, no, hold on. A lot of game left. We'll just hit you with a quick back-to-back. There's nothing worse than when you get a lead, and you're like, oh, we're good. And then it's just boom, down the field. They went right down the field. Where did this come from? They did it twice. Yeah. Also, the fact that it was the best possible uniform combination really upped the level of the game. And they did the graphic, too. Yeah. Which I love that.

2:28:39I love that they did that. It was just a fun watch all around. And Baker is just the best. They are the number one team I want to watch. Every game they play is fun. Every game, every win they've had is three points or less this year. They just, they're fun. The throw that he had on the seam to Ibuka was one of the best throws I've seen this year. Yep. Just an absolute fucking laser beam to him. And the touchdown to Sterling Shepard at the end. Yeah. Was ridiculous. and he's not the fastest guy but his ability to like go pick up the first when he sees that he can go get it he it it's it almost seems like he does it every time like yeah he doesn't have the wheels but it's like wait i could just why don't i just sneak out here real quick and pick up the first yeah i love it yeah it was it was very fun yeah unless again you are one of the people who moved on from them yep and it's that was the worst watch of all time credit to us we this this was our bowl from four years ago when we called the shot when we said we were not done with Sam Darnold or Baker Mayfield.

2:29:37Never stopped believing. And we were proven right. Also, Abuka is great because Gronk, I think I said this after the first week of the season, him having to pronounce his name is just such an adventure every time. Today, he dropped a new one that was so perfect. Mike Evans, and you got to give credit to this rookie sensation wide receiver out of Ohio State, Emeka Egbegbu, going for over 100 yards. He's doing it on purpose, though. He might have been doing that one on purpose. Mika and Buka. I'm getting confused. There you go. Lights out once again. He might not. Yeah. Once Mike Evans comes back.

2:30:10Because he bounced back with the right one. Mika and Buka. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. He's correcting you. Yes. I got. Oh. I love Gronk. The, uh. But yeah. This was the game of the day in terms of, like, entertainment factor. Just overall. Yeah, and Bucky no problem for the Bucs because he was out. Rob White was good. So Bucky's out for like weeks now? I don't know. He's got a shoulder and some sort of ankle or foot injury? Yeah. He's got a foot as well. Yes. I don't like that. I like watching Bucky play. The Bucs just get injured. It feels like every week there's just another dude.

2:30:52I mean, when Mike Evans gets back and Bucky's healthy, this offense, and they get a little bit more health on the offensive line, this might be the best offense in football did they did they end up selling mega ticket no i don't make it again i don't think i think that's an idea that's like way too far it's so advanced it scares people yeah we we haven't caught up science hasn't caught up to the mega ticket yet there might have to be different uh like stadium design to for the mega ticket to make the most sense yeah yeah now yeah there's something should we have a conversation about seattle at home seattle hasn't been good at home recently good point they used to be like the hardest place to play now you could a smart person would make the argument that they were really good at home when their football team was really good at football yep and then they were worse at home when they weren't as good as football but now they're kind of maybe kind of good again at football i think they are so they should start to be kind of maybe pretty good at home again they should be you would think that would work yeah this was this also like i don't i think the The Bucs defense and the Seahawks defense are better than what we saw today.

2:31:58This is my some like two or three times a year your team will play in like basically a big 12 shootout. And there's just nothing like the pinball effect will happen and game flow will get so out of hand that everything goes haywire. Maybe that's why Baker is so good at winning these close games is because he's used to the like big 12. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and it looked like, I mean, the fact that the Bucs pulled this off where they get that interception late too. Hank, did you have the Bucs? I did have the Bucs. To finish something? They were the third leg of the hunger dog. That thing had no shot.

2:32:35That's a great bet. Yeah, no, the Bucs, I just needed the Bucs to win, and they dropped a pick six in the end zone to start the drive. That was a bad sign. One of the worst roughing the passer calls I've ever seen in my life got called against the Bucs on the Seahawks. The guy didn't even knock Darnold over, lightly ran into him and held him up, and they called unnecessary roughness. It just felt like one of those drives. When you're gambling, you need one last leg of a parlay that this is going to be the thing that they lose. But then Baker just came back and let a game-winning drive once again.

2:33:12Pretty much a perfect game from Baker. Yeah. Yeah. And Sam Darnold almost played a perfect game. He just didn't play as perfect as Baker. And it's really like the difference is like two incompletions. Yeah, somebody had to lose. And that interception at the end, which, you know, it hit the helmet. Sam Darnold did take ownership for it. He was like, I knew where the guy was open. I fucked up the production. If you're looking at losses this week, I feel like there's a couple losses where maybe you can walk away. Like the loss of the week. What's the best loss of the week? I got two candidates for it.

2:33:46All right, hold on. Let me look back real quick. All right. Give me your two candidates. All right. Candidate number one is the Seahawks. Okay. In this shootout. And candidate number two would be the Browns. Yep. That's who I had as well. Over in London. Yep. Hank, who do you have? Loss of the week. I agree with those two. Yeah. Loss of the week. Max, do you have anyone else for loss of the week? Cardinals. Why? No. You didn't understand the assignment there, buddy. Yeah, the loss of the week. No, that was the most fun loss. That was my favorite loss. No, that wasn't. That's your definition of loss of the week.

2:34:17This is mine. Okay, so that game has one vote. actually no now that wins because it has the least amount of votes yeah alright good Cardinals Eagles might have lost the week they needed a loss yeah but Cardinals is more fun Eagles is not fun for me yeah okay let's finish up we got who's back of the week we're gonna talk college football on Wednesday we got a lot to talk about including James Franklin who's back of the week is sponsored by Twisted Tea Twisted Tea is a refreshing hard ice tea made with real brewed tea and 5 % alcohol. Twisted tea is the perfect alcohol beverage to keep the good times going all season long, whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar, or just seeing where the day takes you.

2:35:03Twisted tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time, a great time. Keep it twisted. Grab a tea. It's game time. Stock up on ice cold. Twisted tea today. Henry, who's back of the week? First who's back of the week is PFT. I'm holding the football. I have been in Phil last 10 minutes or so just a great football great great thing to have in your possession collection incredible football incredible football uh can i have it back yeah thanks it's yours whenever whenever you want my others back the week is taylor swift why what happened i should come out with an album yeah i have not listened to it i probably never will heard it was a flop uh that's a good recap wait was it a flop how many stars do you give it from what i've said I'd give it not her best.

2:35:49Are Swifty saying it wasn't good? Some are saying it's ChatGPT. It's, yeah. Oh, no. Wait, are these real? Yeah. I got to get in on this. They're doing full dissections on TikTok. And it's not a good album? That's what they're saying. Travis Kelsey's dick's dick. Yeah, Travis Kelsey has a hog. Okay. It's song number nine. Oh, my God. Actually, speaking of that. Speaking of Travis Kelsey's dick. Did you see Dante's tweet? Dante the Don? No. I did not see Dante the Don's tweet about Travis Kelsey's dick. I got to find this. I got to find this. Do you? I do. It's an all-timer. Wait, did you listen to it, PFT, or any of it?

2:36:29I did. I listened to, like, 15 seconds of the first one, which I think is Ophelia. Okay. It's like the 17th song that's been named Ophelia. Not her best. Yeah. The 15 seconds didn't blow me away. Okay. All right, this is co-worker and friend Dante the Don in a now deleted tweet. My biggest takeaway from the Taylor Swift album, besides being so happy she's working with people besides Antoff again, is that Travis Kelsey's piece is only nine inches, question mark. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I just assumed he'd be working with more than that. Oh, all right. Okay. only 9 inches credit Dante 9 inches isn't big enough for Dante Dante's hung like a can of corn he can barely feel 9 inches that's what he's saying alright wait but are people actually saying this is not a good album memes there's not her best but like I always assumed every album she puts out people are like oh that's the best one ever i've seen more negative discourse and i think there's a lot of swifties that have built put themselves in a tough spot where like their entire personality is loving taylor swift so they can't really say come out and say that you owe it to her though as a fan it's not her best yeah but i've seen i've seen i've seen some interesting i'm gonna have to look that up there could be a chance that like maybe they enjoy the songs that she writes when she's sad more than the song she writes when she's happy yeah that could be a real thing could absolutely be a real thing all right pft you're like people listen to this podcast way more like i saw someone say that oh yeah oh yeah when like maybe she's the gym teacher and travis kelsey is the english teacher oh okay why because the lyrics weren't weren't great are you oh she's ah she's not english yeah i thought you were gonna go down the whole gail or swift rabbit hole which is wild i don't yeah what's that i recommend i have no idea what is that there's a there's a deep deep fan community of taylor swift they call themselves the galers okay and they have been speculating for years that taylor swift is a lesbian ah and she's been sending like secret signals to that community through her lyrics over the years i think that's probably the lesbians that want no no no definitely not um and then when the engagement photo dropped they had a meltdown because they were like is this is this a whole sham have our have our lives been in pursuit of something that was a lie the entire time.

2:39:12Got it. But then you had a couple of them explain, actually, there's deeper meaning behind all this. And don't worry. She's still playing on your team. Oh, she's still. Yeah. Yeah. I want to say something, but I... No. No. I'm not going to say what... You think I'm going to say something that's getting me in trouble with the Swifties. I actually am going to say something that's probably way more dangerous for myself. Did you guys see the lesbian memes? Yes. Oh, my God. smoke show where I told you that's way more of a direct threat towards me to bring this up oh my god did you type in lesbian memes no memes not lesbian meme there's a memes doppelganger a lesbian memes doppelganger that's very funny now I know what you're talking about I thought there was like a lesbian meme that was going around He did not tweet about it.

2:40:10Yes, he did. Oh, he did. That's where I saw it. Memes, the picture that he posted of me and Big Cat fucking the football, did you also make us fat? No. Memes, did you re-follow any of us? No. Oh, okay. There it is. There she is. You didn't see his BFT? No. This is lesbian memes. Yeah, that does look a lot like memes. Lesbian memes. I love it. So just substitute. Substitute what she's saying about Sidney Sweeney for the New York Jets. Yeah, for the Jets. And it's accurate. Yeah. Memes. Would. Would you date lesbian memes? Sure. Okay. Here we go. Make a super memes? I don't think she'd be interested.

2:40:57Well, yeah. Maybe. Maybe not. Who's to say? Put on a nice dress. Okay. PFT, you're who's back. Or did you have another one, Hank? No, just NHL's coming back this week way too soon NHL is back and it's weird It's weird seeing the lineups There's a very specific fringe of hockey Twitter that just goes completely silent in the offseason and then it's always shocking to see those people posting again with their weird stats and lineups and all this shit It's too early It's too early for the NHL It's still 80 degrees Alright, have a catch Hank PFT, you're who's back My who's back of the week is Hank.

2:41:38Oh. Yeah, because our boy, Drake May, lit it up tonight. Credit to Hank. Hell yeah. For being a Drake May believer. You too. And we're just being good friends with each other. Me and Hank are on the same team. Things are going swimmingly. That's going to continue for the rest of this week, right, Hank? For sure. For sure. Why? Hank and I are playing for$5 ,000 tomorrow. Oh, golf. Round of golf. This is Hank's never-ending debt. Yep. The bottomless debt. Bottomless debt. I could pay you right now This is crazy You won every bet today I'm just sorry for trying to make content No I like the content But then you say this is Hank's never ending debt I could end the debt Well it is funny You make me feel bad about it I'm not trying to make you feel bad This is funny that it is a year that we've been doing A debt that then just turns into a golf Which I like No false It's been since the summer I thought this was from the non-dunking.

2:42:37No. It's from the long drive. Which was? What started the long drive? I entrapped Hank into accepting the long drive right after he missed the dunking thing. So I'm right. No, no, no, no. The dunking thing, we did the three-point thing. I didn't owe anyone any money after the dunking thing. Okay. But then long drive. He entrapped me in the - The long drive. Because I knew he was upset. I didn't know that part. You were the one that set it up. The long drive? Yeah. I did? It was right after he didn't dunk. You're like, all right, what if it was$1 ,000 per yard? Oh, my bad. Yeah, it worked out. It's literally all you.

2:43:10I don't remember anything. But we're doing$5 ,000. Hand up. It's my fault. And Hank's dialed right now in terms of just seeing the world. He was great at golf on Saturday, and he was great at bets today, just understanding sports. I love watching you guys play golf because you both are about the same now. Hank's maybe a little bit better. Yeah, he's better. He's better. But PFT always elevates his game with Hank. That's the best part. But my problem is I'm afraid of Hank now because he's on a hot streak. Hank is hotter than a pistol. He's really hot. Hank is the hottest guy in the world right now.

2:43:46I'm fire. I'm fire. Yeah, so congrats, Hank. Congrats to you. I mean, like I said, I never could have made Patriots money line for the pick. I didn't have the balls. No, congrats to you. No, congrats to you. That was a great place. Seeing that one. That was really smart, yeah. Seeing that one next to one and four. And the commander threw Daniels back. So back. I should have. He never really left. Hand up. I apologize for not making Jayden Daniels and you my who's back of the week. That's fine. Because they're so back. That's what I love about you. And so are you. You know what I love about Hank is when he sees good quarterback play, he will acknowledge it.

2:44:21Yeah. Openly. Always. He doesn't care who hears. Yeah. And sometimes there'll be haters being like, actually, that guy's not that good, but Hank's good. That wasn't a dot. Like, don't – if I see a dot, I'm calling out a dot. Yeah, you're the dot commander. You're a dot guy. Is it straight up? No strokes? No, there's strokes. What are the strokes? Got to look up the course, but I think it's six or eight. I think PFT – can I bet PFT straight up? Yeah. This is kind of my home course. Anyone want to bet me straight up? I'll bet you straight up. I'll take Hank. Against PFT, yeah. Okay. Great. Okay.

2:44:54I believe in my boy. He elevates – do you – fact or fiction? he elevates his game when he plays against you. For sure. Some could say I just crumble. I think it's more he elevates. Yeah, I think it's maybe a little bit of both. Maybe a little both, but I know that the best golf I've seen PFT play is usually versus you. I think Hank brings out the best in me in terms of my competitiveness athletically, and I think I bring out the best in Hank in terms of his funniness when he melts down. Eight strokes. Eight. Eight strokes, okay. All right, I'll bet, I'll bet, how about, I'll half it for 500 bucks.

2:45:31Okay. All right, great. Four. Yeah. All right, so you guys are playing Monday. Monday. Monday. All right. Is the video out, Max? What? What video? How could it be out? Oh, this video, the golf video. Yeah, is it out yet? Oh. People should ask. No, it's not out yet. The one that we're shooting this afternoon. By the way, one thing we didn't bring up. Saturday was one of the weirdest headline days with not only Mark Sanchez, but Diana Rossini just being like, Mac Jones saw a dead body. Yeah, saw a dead body. That was fucking crazy. Yeah. What? Don't know how that story didn't get out before. What?

2:46:07Right before the game. Yeah. Would that make you more likely or less likely to bet on Mac Jones? I think less. I think less, too. So I'm happy I didn't know. I would think that he was, like, hallucinating. Because usually I want to know if someone's smashing a watermelon or if someone had a baby. Yeah. I don't think I want to know if someone saw a dead body. I think I would have. I was probably just like, yep, it's going to happen to everyone. Yeah, right. Like, that could be me tomorrow if you don't play well. That's true. Yeah. I would have seen that and just been like, damn, the Niners really are banged up.

2:46:36Yeah. What was that? In the training room? Yeah. All right. My who's back is playoff baseball. Max, we got to talk. So we had playoff baseball this weekend. And the Yankees, quick, we can hit each series real quick. The Tigers-Mariners have been awesome. 1-1. First game, extra innings. Second game, the Mariners were able to hit, I think it was Polanco, hit both solo home runs off Scooble. Mariners outlast them 3-2. That crowd has been awesome. I also love just, like, the Mariners crowd because it's just a bunch of dudes. Every time they go to the crowd, you know, like, when it's Buffalo, it's like guys with their shirts off, Subaz.

2:47:14Because Mariners crowd is just dudes with a rain jacket on and a thin mustache. Yeah. And a cool ball cap. Yeah, usually wearing some sort of muted blue color. Yeah. Not officially the team blue color. Yeah. But just a nice vest that goes over a dress shirt and a raincoat on that. I'm rooting for Seattle. Yeah, I am too. It's been so long. The last time they had a home playoff win, I think, was what, 2001? It's been a long time. For the Mariners? Yeah. It's crazy. And, yeah, this is a good team. Fun team. Fun series. Just awesome first two games of playoff baseball. And then the Yankees have just gotten the shit kicked out of them by the Blue Jays.

2:47:57Blue Jays are good. Vlad Jr.'s home run today was awesome. Did you hear the French call? No. It was sick. I haven't heard that one yet. Dude, his home run, he absolutely no doubted that grand slam. He didn't even move after he hit it. He just stood there. Watched it. And then great bat flip. Yeah, Blue Jays are a fun team. And you see the final score is 13-7. You're like, oh, it must have been back and forth. No, no, no. It was – Yosavage had, what, five and a third of no-hit baseball? And then, you know, they brought in their bullpen. The Yankees hit some home runs. Cody Bellinger hit one. Aaron Judge, I mean, it's – he's had some big – he had a big moment game one where they were bases loaded and he chased in a really bad way.

2:48:43then he hit a double when they were down 6-1 which is very Aaron Judge I don't know I don't think that the Yankees should celebrate winning a wild card round I think every other, no Hank don't give me the I can't exist I think every other team can do it you're supposed to be the Yankees I think he's having won shit 25 years what's the standard for New York they won one World Series you've won as many World Series Big Cat's won as many World Series That's true. We've won way more World Series. Yeah, but I'm saying you're the New York Yankees. The standard shouldn't just be winning a wild card series.

2:49:20You shouldn't celebrate that. I mean, they hadn't beat the Red Sox since 2003. So that I kind of understand. I'm starting. So I am a big believer in the celebrate everything. But with the way the Yankees and the Cubs played on Saturday, maybe just pour the beers don't drink them yeah spray each other down just just just pour the beers they're also the beers on each other don't drink them there's also a difference you got a game in 24 hours with a team that's been to the postseason had had a little bit of postseason make the playoffs yes let's say let's say you're a team that has like hypothetically made it to the world series maybe won a couple playoff series and some other years in recent memory but the big thing is like you can't get over the hump.

2:50:09You can't win another. Maybe they shouldn't be celebrating the wild card win. Yeah. You know? Actually, no. Celebrate everything. I think it's just the Yankees. You're supposed to be the Yankees. Celebrate everything, though. I can't pick and choose. I got to just stay consistent. The Yankees, they can have beards now. It's not the Yankees. Yeah, they're in trouble. Down 0-2. And then, Max, we're both down 0-1. Who do you think is in a worse spot? I think you're making an argument either way. Okay. Okay, because you were home? Because we're home and we're playing the Dodgers. Okay, fair. What Craig Council did with Matthew Boyd, I will never understand.

2:50:48Rob Thompson had a questionable move as well. As a baseball guy though, Max, do you – What did he do? So Matthew Boyd is our – the Cubs are very thin in starting pitching now. Cade Horton, our best starting pitcher, got hurt with a week left in the season. Justin Steele, he got hurt two weeks into the season, so he's been out all year. But those are our one and two guys. Matthew Boyd's been pretty good this year, very good this year at times. He faded a little at the end, but he's been very good this year. He's also pitched like a ton of innings this year. He's never historically been good on short rest.

2:51:24Craig Council decided to pitch him on short rest game one. He got absolutely lit up, only pitched. He didn't even get out of the first inning. I was going into game one thinking that we were going to go full bullpen game and Colin Ray is also on the roster he could have pitched full bullpen game we're probably not going to win game one anyway because Peralta is nasty for the Brewers but at least you get Matthew Boyd game two on Monday night full rest instead we lost and we burned Matthew Boyd I don't understand it how many pitches? so that was the argument on Tuesday he only threw 58 pitches against the Padres They're like, oh, he's going to be fine.

2:52:03But short rest is still short rest. You've got to get amped up for a start. He only threw 30 pitches. But he's still now, if you have to go with him on Thursday, it will be – no, Thursday would be regular rest, right? Yeah, Thursday would be regular rest. Thursday you're fine. Yeah, but still, I would have felt so much better if the Cubs were down 0-1 with Matthew Boyd regular rest Monday night. Instead, that just didn't happen. They just went for the empty the tank? I don't know. I was like treat game one like a must win dude. It was so crazy. I went to sleep on Friday night and I was like, you know when like the last second before you go to sleep and you're kind of like still kind of scrolling your phone and you're like a little bit not hallucinating, but I saw the Matthew boy just starting game one and then I woke up and I was like, did I did I imagine that like I didn't think that was going to happen and then I was like fuck it is happening so that's the other thing because the way that the nlds is like shaped out like he could have gone game two and still gone game five on normal exactly and you had it's not like you're you're getting an extra start i mean hypothetically you could be but you you still would have him lined up for game five and you had a day off on sunday so you could have emptied your bullpen on saturday and been fine for monday and you get a day off on tuesday so that's where i was just very confused so I don't know I we'll see long not a long series short series for both of us but you Max where are you thinking about the Phillies uh it's I mean it's the same thing as last year the top of the order was just an late an absolute stinker one for 11 six strikeouts I think uh they had one they had one good inning where Teoscar Hernandez just decided he wasn't going to run for a baseball, which was bizarre.

2:53:52But then, of course, he comes back and hits a three-run bomb. That Matt Strom may or may not have been tipping pitches. Oh, I saw that. They were stealing his pitches. Yeah, but then Ben Verlander, he tweeted something about how he was getting his pitches tipped, and then Matt Strom replied to him on Twitter just basically dunking on him. Love that. So maybe he wasn't getting it. Something was going on. and the Dodgers just have so many fucking guys. We scored three runs in six innings off Otani, which you would think is good, and then you get to their bullpen, which is bad. Glass now coming out.

2:54:30But then they just bring in Glass now and then Rokey to close the game, and it's like they just have guys on guys on guys. And Shohei goes 0 for 4 with four strikeouts, and it just doesn't matter. They still put up five runs. It's like they have so many fucking guys. And if they have so many guys, our three stars can't lay an egg. And they just continue to lay eggs. So, yeah, where are you at right now on Schwarber? Because I know you said some things in the heat of the moment. No, I don't mean it. Schwarber's been historic. What did you say in the heat of the moment? I think I just said I'm done with Schwarber.

2:55:04You said I'm almost done. You didn't even go all the way. Are you no longer almost done or are you still? No, he's going to hit a homer tonight. Yeah. I know he's going to hit a homer tonight. I knew you didn't mean that. Yeah, you didn't. But, yeah, it's the heat of the moment, and he was one that he had runners in scoring position where we could have extended the lead. When we were up 3-0, he had runners on first and second, and he struck out with two outs. We had so many opportunities. Edmundo Sosa had bases loaded. They bring in a reliever, and he just throws a meep all over the middle of the plate that he flies out that he easily could have hit a homer, a grand slam, and flipped the entire game.

2:55:47You got Monday's must win. Must win. That's what's bullshit about the fucking Dodgers. We see Shohei game one. Now we have Blake Snell. They just have four of the top ten pitchers in baseball just on their team, and then their lineup is disgusting. And then Quique Hernandez, I don't know what is up with him. October comes, and he is just a fucking killer. That pitch that he hit was a perfect changeup from Christopher Sanchez, two-run double, like, of course. I can hear the pain in your voice today. I heard it during the Boomers. Same. And it made me sad. I hear it now. I know you had a tough weekend when it comes to Philly sports.

2:56:31If you were to say, like, which of the three events is taking the most toll on you? Philly, by far. Number one? So you're in, like, bummer, I might be done with baseball mode. Yeah. It's a five-game series. You go down 1-0 in a five-game series, you just feel like you're dead. Especially at home. That's a big thing. Yeah, because if the Cubs win Monday night. Especially when you're up 3-0. You're up 3-0. Yeah. Is this the last dance? Oh, yeah. That's the other thing. Like, Schwarber is probably gone. Ranger Suarez is probably gone. We have young guys that we're going to bring up that are hopefully going to fill the void, but you don't know.

2:57:14It is nearing the end of our run. Zach Wheeler, who knows what he's going to be when he comes back. All right, must win Monday. We're going to stream must win Monday. Must win Monday. Phillies and then Cubs. And we've got to win against Blake Snow. Yeah, you're probably right. The Matthew Boyd thing made me very mad. And it isn't revisionist history because I actually said it on Thursday on multiple shows. I was like, why wouldn't you go bullpen? But I do think you probably are in a worse spot because if the Cubs win Monday, they did their job in Milwaukee. The Phillies have to win Monday. I would say both teams probably have to.

2:57:54Oh, they have to win. But I'm saying, like, if the Cubs win on Monday, it's like, hey, you did your job. If the Phillies win on Monday, it's like, fuck. Fuck, the Dodgers did their job. Now we got to go win one there. Like start of the series, if you were told, Big Cat, that you're going back to Chicago 1-1. Yeah. Oh, I said – You're pumped. If Matthew Boyd hadn't pitched on Saturday and we were down 0-1, I would have been like, that's exactly kind of what I expected. Bullpen game versus Peralta. That's a Brewers advantage every single day. I expected to lose game one. I just didn't expect to also burn our best starting pitcher.

2:58:28I would just love to have the PMT Civil War Day. Also, Rob Thompson just absolutely. David Robertson gets a big out, gets out of a jam for Christopher Sanchez, and we have our entire bullpen at our disposal plus an off day the next day. The guys haven't pitched in a week. The fact that you bring Robertson back out there for another inning is so inexcusable. Empty the fucking bullpen. You have an off day. Use your fucking guys. You do not need 41-year-old David Robertson trying to give you more. Go back to the dugout and then come back out. Use your fucking guys. Yeah, I will say that the one good thing that Craig Council did do when the game got – because it got out of hand.

2:59:14Michael Bush hit a home run to lead off the game. I was like, this is going to be awesome. And then the Brewers put up six in the first inning and three in the second inning. he did not like go to anyone of like importance in the bullpen so that was good like he didn't make something bad even worse by burning guys that we actually like really really need so but still fucking matthew boyd that was short rest he's like he pitched like 180 innings this year and he's always he i think he's done short rest three times in his career and every time it's not been good. I don't get it. I feel like every short rest, like short rest is always a disadvantage, Max.

2:59:55Is it not? Like there's just never, you think it's okay. You see like the bum gardeners, like people talk about like the bum gardeners of the world who did it forever. There's only like three of those guys. Right, and so that's why to me it's like. Like Zach Wheeler, we won't do it with him. Right, if you don't, unless you are in a, like short rest is for the end of a series. Yeah. Not the fucking first game of a series. Yeah, short rest is without a doubt. It's like game seven, empty your tank. Right. Scherzer's here. Right. They did it for game one. Yeah. Nuts. Nuts. All right. Good show, boys.

3:00:29Long show. Tight show. Tight show. All right. Good luck in golf tomorrow, boys. And when I say good luck, I'm talking just to you. I think it's going to be fun. Good luck in baseball. Good luck to everybody. Must win Monday, Max. We'll be streaming. Must win Monday for all of us. Yep. Oh, you're making a must win? Yeah. Who plays better on no sleep and a win? Yeah, who plays better on no sleep? Hank, do you get cranky when you don't sleep? Not if I'm on the course. All right. I have the Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts.

3:01:06Roback.com. Promo code TAKE. Numbers. Three. Memes is going with something different. 33. You even attempt. No, I saw the end of PMTV. What was the end? Let's just let him get it. Let's just let him get three and let's all just take it easy. That was PFT. There's no way he just completely contradicts it. I totally forgot that I said that. You've got to be honest. Don't remember saying that. They said it. You weren't there. Three. My bad. Yeah, PFT's got it. I had a PFT moment. 41. You know what? You know what it means? Memes, do you want number three? No, I'll take 41. I want to give Memes three.

3:01:50No, I want 41. I'm rooting for you, Memes. I think I've flipped. Memes, if I get three, I want to give it to you. No, you can't. You're getting 41. I can't. He's got to take it now. He's got to take it right now. But if I do win, then I want the record to show that I would give it to Memes if I could. That's fair, but it does not count. Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. I'll go 27. Boys? In the booth? 99. I would just say if three hits, I would say love you guys immediately because I'm turning everything off. Okay.

3:02:25All right. Everyone else guess? 23. 22. 8. I said 22. Jack. Yeah, go again. 25.

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