NFL Week 7, Fastest 2 Minutes, Broncos Historic Comeback, Colts Domination, Commanders Down Bad + Shohei's Greatest Single Game Performance Ever And Who's Back Of The Week

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Podcast Episode Summary: Pardon My Take - NFL Week 7 Recap

Podcast Overview Hosts: Big Cat & PFT Commenter Date: October 20, 2023 Episode Title: NFL Week 7, Fastest 2 Minutes, Broncos Historic Comeback, Colts Domination, Commanders Down Bad + Shohei's Greatest Single Game Performance Ever And Who's Back Of The Week

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Episode Breakdown

Fastest 2 Minutes (00:00:00 - 00:11:13)

  • Recap of all NFL games from Week 7.
  • Highlights include significant performances and pivotal moments from various teams.

Game Summaries Rams 35, Jaguars 7 (00:11:13 - 00:25:48)

  • Rams showcased a dominant performance.
  • Matthew Stafford threw for multiple touchdowns, exploiting Jaguars' defense.

Eagles 28, Vikings 22 (00:25:48 - 00:41:01)

  • Eagles secured a hard-fought win with standout performances.
  • Carson Wentz's struggles were highlighted.

Bears 26, Saints 14 (00:41:01 - 00:53:47)

  • Bears showed signs of improvement with a solid defensive showing.

Browns 31, Dolphins 6 (00:53:47 - 01:05:12)

  • Browns' defense was overwhelming, leading to a blowout victory.
  • Dolphins struggled significantly with turnovers.

Patriots 31, Titans 13 (01:05:12 - 01:14:04)

  • Patriots performed well, finding rhythm on both sides of the ball.

Chiefs 31, Raiders 0 (01:14:04 - 01:21:41)

  • Chiefs dominated the Raiders with a shutout performance.
  • Notable offensive plays and a standout defense showcased Kansas City's capabilities.

Panthers 13, Jets 6 (01:21:41 - 01:37:06)

  • Panthers secured a narrow victory over the struggling Jets.
  • Both teams exhibited offensive struggles.

Colts 38, Chargers 24 (01:37:06 - 01:51:22)

  • Colts demonstrated a powerful offensive showing, particularly in the second half.
  • Justin Herbert's turnovers were costly for the Chargers.

Packers 27, Cardinals 23 (01:51:22 - 01:58:26)

  • Packers managed to edge the Cardinals in a tightly contested game.
  • Matt LaFleur's decision-making in crucial moments was notable.

Cowboys 44, Commanders 22 (01:58:26 - 02:19:03)

  • Commanders were outmatched by the Cowboys.
  • The defense struggled, and the loss raised questions about their future.

Broncos 33, Giants 32 (02:19:03 - 02:27:52)

  • Broncos mounted a historic comeback.
  • The Giants suffered a heartbreaking loss despite having a lead.

Niners 20, Falcons 10 (02:27:52 - 02:33:46)

  • Niners secured a win but faced challenges throughout the game.

Additional Discussions (02:33:46 - 03:06:57)

  • Playoff Baseball: Discussion about Shohei Ohtani's incredible performance in the playoffs.
  • Who's Back of the Week: Highlighting various topics, including fired coaches.
  • General Remarks: Reflections on the NFL season and predictions for upcoming games.

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Key Takeaways

  • Dominance of Certain Teams: The Rams, Chiefs, and Colts demonstrated strong performances, asserting their positions in the NFL hierarchy.
  • Quarterback Play: Justin Herbert's inconsistency was a recurring theme, raising questions about his longevity as a top quarterback.
  • Coaching Decisions Matter: Coaches like Matt LaFleur made critical decisions that influenced game outcomes, showcasing the impact of strategic thinking.
  • Injuries and Their Consequences: Injuries to key players, such as Jaden Daniels, underscore the fragile nature of NFL seasons.

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Who's Back of the Week

  • Thieves: Celebrated for their recent heist at the Louvre, showcasing old-school criminal antics in a modern world.

Final Thoughts This episode provided a comprehensive look at NFL Week 7, highlighting key games, player performances, and coaching decisions that shaped the outcomes. The discussions also ventured into broader sports topics, emphasizing the cultural and emotional connections fans have with their teams.

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0:00Hey, Pardon My Take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcast and Spotify. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, presented by DraftKings, week seven in the NFL. We're going to recap every game. We had a wild, wild finish out in Denver. We had not great games to start the slate, but the afternoon was incredible. Some high-scoring games. We're going to talk Sunday Night Football. We got who's back of the week. We have some playoff baseball talk. A couple more coaches got fired, which we'll get to in the college ranks. And it's all brought to you by our friends at Microsoft.

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2:00Yeah, pardon my take. Yeah, pardon my take. Yeah, pardon my take. Yeah, pardon my take. Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, October 20th, week seven. What?

2:33What are you going to be for Halloween, Teej? I'm going to go as a person with a gun in his mouth. Oh, no. Because football is stupid and nobody should watch it anymore. We get dark early. All right, we start in London where the Jaguars took on the Rams as Trevor Lawrence tried his best to spread the idea of football overseas, not the actual play on the pitch. Matthew Staff, Rob Ford, who didn't eat the pussy, He has more than enough at home, Teej. Gave the Cats a licking, easily finding the cracks in the secondary. Devontae John Adams gained American independence from the Jaguars' defense, scoring three times, and Sean McClub-Sheche hit it from all positions as the Rams routed the Jaguars.

3:19Rams 35, Jaguars 7. What? We go over to sunny Cleveland, Ohio, where the Polynesian quarterbacks Tagovaiola and Gabriel were a couple island boys leaving Miami fans asking to Hawaii throw all those interceptions. Quinshawn Connery, Junkins, was pounding the rock, looking at McDaniels saying, losers complain about trying their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen. The Dolphins tried to fight back, but Mike McDaniel pulled his biking pants up high, and the cycle continues for Miami as Dee Eskridge wasn't very armstrong. losing one of his balls. The Cleveland defense feasted as Tyson Campbell was chicken soup for their brown soul, getting a pick six as Andrew Barry proclaimed, I would draft 500 Miles Garrets and I would draft 500 more just to be the man who got Mick Daniels fired to make people forget Flacco.

4:22Da-da-da. Da-da-da. Da-da-da. Da-da-da. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. I'm going against Budweiser for Halloween. Cleveland steamer to Dolphins. 31-6. To Kansas City where Zach was on the scene. In Kansas City, Patrick Starr Mahomes firmly grasps it and throws it to Rashe Rice Krispy Treat, who snap, crackles, and pops his way right into the end zone to kick things off. Patrick trick-or-treat Mahomes jump scares the Raiders' defense with a spooky shot short right to Hollywood Walk of Fame Brown as he stares straight into the end zone. Later, Patrick Mahomes, Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night, shoots a pass gift-wrapped in Rashi Rice paper down Oakland's chimney for another six points.

5:06Neil Patrick Harris Mahomes told quite the story today, but it wasn't about anyone meeting your mother. It was all about kicking Raider ass. Chiefs 31, Oakland 0. Take Zach. Up to Minnesota for Max. We head over to Minnesota, where Carson Wentz-State-Battams had Vikings fans saying, He's creepy and he's kooky, mysterious and loopy. He's altogether poopy. Wednesday badm should be QB3. Vic Fangio was screaming, You're beautiful! to Jalex James Blunt when he secured the early pick six to extend the Eagles' lead. On the other side of the ball, the Eagles had a very obvious game plan. Devontae Mack Smith, no matter what, as he exploded for a career day with 183 yards and a dud.

5:52plus while A. Jason Aldean was on the verge of burning the team down he finally broke out for two touchdowns and over 100 yards including a late dagger to win the game. Eagles 28, Broncos 22. Thanks Max. In Chicago where there were concerns Ben Mintz Johnson was going to be lazy this week in preparation for New Orleans concerned too much about the wide spread of 4.5 points but Jake Moody saved the day and looked past any of his old misses going four for four. Spencer Prattler stumbled back down the hills. He's been trying to climb as a pro, throwing three interceptions, hitting Nishan, right stuff, baby.

6:30Kevin Stomped the Bayard and Kenny Tremaine Edmonds. Sorry, that last one sucked dick. Some are saying the Bears may be back as they go marching on the Saints. Bears 26, Saints 14. And then we go down to Nashville where Hank was there. In Nash, Vegas, the Titans started off hot when Chimre D.K. Mutombo said no, no, no, no to Marcus Jones as he zoomed past him into the end zone to give the Titans an early lead. In the second quarter, Drake May VP connected with Austin. Did you put a tongue in her, Hooper? For seven. And then K'Shawn White Booty hit a steady double McQuist 39-yarder to give the pass the lead headed into the locker room.

7:14in the second half. Ramondre, Agassi, Steven Sinssen. Uh! Uh! Uh! Uh! After rushing into the end zone for six. And then Cam, Mickey Ward, looked like he got hit in his head body, head body, after fumbling the ball to give the defensive TD to the Pats. Pats go marching. 31-13. Sticking in the AFC East, memes and the Panthers Jets. In New Jersey, the Panthers defense was waking up hard because me so JC Horne, who was the lead member of the two-pick crew and holding the Jets offense to no touchdowns on the day. Xavier Musketeers put on a strong performance in Big East Rutherford with a touchdown set up by Chuba Dubu on a screen.

8:03It truly was a pick-em on the field as Rico Dattel got put back on the meds by the Jets defense that resulted in the numbers being down. As for the Jets offense, Brees Hall and Oates said, you're making my dreams come true by taking Justin to a fields upstate and putting him out of his fucking misery and replacing him with Tyrod Taylor Swift who just released a new song, Wood, which isn't about Travis Kelsey's enormous cock, it's actually about the Jets owner who fucks an entire fan base year after year. Jets lose. Panthers 13, Jets 6. Great job memes. We go down to Big D where George Pickens Pot Pie was burning Marcus Lattismore over the top from the start, making Marshawn eat his ass crust first.

8:44I did Marshawn and Marcus there. The Jaden Danielson was in the face of the commanders with a murderer's row of wide receivers, Robbie Chosen, Jalen Lane, and Chris Moore, which is ironic because you got speedster Kevontae Turpin behind a wheel, and you think, wow, instead of driving on the median, that guy should have chosen Moore Lane. The Cowboys kept their foot on the gas, finding ACDC Lamb, who's back to catching more TDs and a Dunder Cheap. More TDs and a Dunder Cheap. Bodak Yellow Prascott was making the commies' defense look like Cardi B trying to run Cardi O. Meanwhile, Terry McClure is going to have to sit on that white-ass Peloton all week if he wants to get back on the practice field.

9:31The Commanders are back to being the worst team in the NFC, and nothing burgundy and gold can ever stay. Washington fans were so happy last year because finally one good thing happened to them, and now they're back to being bad at football, and the Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl again. Max is laughing because the Eagles are still good. The Nats are in year one again of a year seven rebuild. Georgetown basketball sucks. Ovi's retiring. Josh Harris was in the Epstein files, even though it was just because he didn't like Epstein and basically fired the CEO of the Carlisle Group for being close with Epstein.

10:00but people won't do enough research. Oh, well, at least we still have the Washington Wizards. Dallas a lot, commanders a little.

10:12Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston and Hoboken, such a fine sight to see. It's a giant's tide, my lord, going in for more. No way the Browns can score 33. Come on, Bo Nix. Won't you please throw picks? There's no chance in hell that we choke this. The Giants did in fact choke it. Broncos 33, Giants 32. And that is your fastest two minutes. Great fastest two minutes from everyone in the room. And it's brought to you by Chevy. Football season is here. And whether you're grinding through the week or gearing up for kickoff, there's one ride that's always game ready, Chevy Silverado. The Chevy Silverado is a longtime partner, a part of my take in our favorite truck, and it's all about grit.

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11:48This was basically over almost instantly because it was the Rams and Sean McVay being an incredible head coach, being like, hey, we don't have Puka Nakua. And we got to figure out a way to win this game. And let's go with three tight ends on every single play and just throw it to all of our tight ends. They went three tight ends in 40 % of their snaps. Just for reference, the Rams in the last three years, they ran three tight ends, 13 personnel, six total times in the last three years. They did it 24 times today. And they just mashed the tight ends in their face. And then they get to the red zone.

12:27and then Devontae Adams will score a touchdown. I think it was half them doing this because they had the Puka thing and then half doing this because McVay knows that Cohen knows everything that he knows from the Rams offense. Yes. So he was preparing for the Rams offense that he used to be a part of, and then he just rolled something completely new out there. I saw somebody point out this is exactly what Belichick did to McVay in that Super Bowl. Yeah. Where they suffocated the Rams and they couldn't get anything going. that's exactly what McVay then in turn did today to Liam Cohen and the Jaguars.

12:59Do you know, by the way, Sean McVay, looking at the stats, you know he's 5-7 against his assistants, but he's 5-2 against all assistants not named Matt LaFleur. Oh. He's 0-5 against Matt LaFleur. I did not realize that. He's 5-2 against assistants not named Matt LaFleur. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. I also think that McVay might have just hacked the entire globe. I think time zones might not exist anymore. Yeah. Because he flew in. The Rams parachuted into England on Saturday. Saturday morning. And then they just slept there one night, and then they left. There's also a chance that McVay, well, we know that he's an AWL, that he listens to part of my take.

13:34Every time we say it's time to set the clocks forward an hour, McVay might actually do that. So he's just off anyway. So he's just been on London time for the last three weeks. Yeah. He's just been five hours ahead. By the way, I was wrong again. It is next weekend. So Stafford, five touchdowns. I feel like he could have even had a better day, but they kind of just went into we have won this game when they were up 21-0 at half. And the entire game after the Rams went up 21-0 was the Jaguars. Every time you looked up at the TV, the Jaguars were failing a fourth down or driving the ball and getting zero points.

14:14They went six straight drives where they got past the 50-yard line and got zero points out of those six straight drives. They went to the 45, the Rams 45 punt, to the Rams 32 missed field goal, to the Rams 11 turnover on downs, to the Rams 30 turnover on downs, to the Rams 27 turnover on downs, to the Rams 48 punt. Six straight drives where they went past the half field and got zero points. It was abysmal to watch. Yeah, after they missed that field goal, I think Liam Cohen just made the choice, like, we're just going to go for it every time, and then it just never worked for them. Yeah. And it kept failing for different reasons, each time that's why it's so hard to place like any any one person with the blame for the jaguars because trevor lawrence he he does just stupid stuff sometimes i so i threw this out to you earlier today i think he's the most sackable quarterback we have and i say that so he got sacked seven times i think he got sacked i think he's been sacked 14 times the last two games i say that not like it's not like late eli manning where he would do self sacks trevor Lawrence can run a little bit.

15:15Trevor Lawrence is athletic. Trevor Lawrence, I think, is 0 for 100 on spin moves that don't work. He'll spin or try to sidestep, and a guy will get one arm on him, and he'll be sacked. I think I know what the reason is because he does that spin move a lot. And it never works. But the quarterbacks that are able to do the spin move and it works, the pass rusher doesn't know that he's about to spin. Right. With Trevor Lawrence, he looks too much at the blitzer that's coming in where he's pretending to look out of the side of his eye, but he turns his head a little bit, and the guy's like, oh, this guy knows that I'm coming right now.

15:49A really good quarterback will just kind of stare straight ahead, and the blitzer won't know that he's about to spin. Trevor doesn't do any of that. No, he doesn't. He never does that. But, yeah, I mean, he forgets where he is on the field more than any other quarterback in the NFL. Yep. He misses some throws. He makes a lot of throws, but it feels like the Jaguars are never in sync with each other. No. They're never in sync. Like, when Trevor makes a good pass, that's when brian thomas just like completely forgets how to catch a football they've been over in london so much they forget that they're allowed to use their hands and he'll just like drop it off his fingertips or hear the footsteps or whatever just somebody new screws up each time and it's very hard to put your finger on exactly what the problem is in jackson the the the liam cohen summed it up perfectly exactly what you just said after the game he said everything's everything we said we didn't want to do did occur yeah that's right maybe stop saying maybe stop living in your fears yeah don't say what you don't want to do because then you'll start thinking about it and be like oh fuck i'm gonna do this he did the actual like be a be a real shame if uh if cardi missed a 34 yard field goal right it would be a real shame if brian thomas jr missed another uh catch over the middle of the field by the way uh the stats on that catchable targets over the middle of the field to brian thomas jr this year have a negative 17.1 completion percentage over expected this season i don't really understand how this stat works but i know that when you have negative 17.1 completion percentage over expected that's bad yeah my takeaway from this game is just jaguars just get travis under the ball more did they unlock him they unlock travis hunter at the end of the game he scored his first touchdown because he's locked in he's locked in baptized before this game yep when there was just one footprint in the sand that's when i was burning jesus on a double move now and it worked out now did it happen maybe because it was garbage time i i still think he was the he was the biggest bright spot of the day Absolutely.

17:36And he played pretty good on defense, too. We also have a classic who actually won the game debate that we can do, and I'm referring to Monday Night Football, Jaguars versus the Chiefs. So Monday Night Football, Jags get the biggest win, regular season win, in maybe franchise history, but at least in the last 10 years or whatever you want to call it. Since that game, the Jaguars are 0-2, being outscored 55-19. The Chiefs are 2-0, outscoring their opponents 61-17. Who won that game? At what cost? The Chiefs won that game. Yeah, smart move. Heady move by the Chiefs. Yeah. Great job. To let Trevor Lawrence find a way into the end zone at the end of that game.

18:14Great job throwing that pick. Yeah, this game, again, should remind us that the Rams are now 12-3 in their last 15 against the spread. They're really good. Pretty impressive win. Matt Stafford, after the game, he was talking about throwing five touchdowns. His response was, do I get a sword or something? Like for throwing five touchdowns in England. Why don't they? I think we should send him a sword. He should have to get it out of a stone. Yeah. I actually think that we should send him a sword. We should send him a sword. Is that legal? Can you send a... To mail a sword? Let's mail him a sword.

18:48Let's mail it to Jerry, and Jerry O 'Connell will give it to him, because he's like buddy-buddy with them, goes on their podcast. Yeah, next time he's on with Kelly, he'll just walk in the door carrying a sword. I think he's a recurring... I think he's a co-host now. Yeah, he's a member. Yeah. But yeah, the Rams are really good. The Jaguars... So I think both teams have a bye coming up. The Jaguars need it badly because they started hot and they have not looked good the last two weeks. The Rams are 100 % in Super Bowl contender territory. Would you agree? I would agree. Yeah. They play next, so they have a bye.

19:20Then they play the Saints at home. And then they have a tough little stretch where they play the Niners, Seahawks, and Bucs. But I'm not. The Rams are for real, for real. They basically are in the can we get everyone healthy for the playoffs? Can we be healthy when the playoffs come around? Because their defense is ferocious. Matthew Stafford is still just as good as ever. If Pukunuku is out there, he cannot be touched. And we found out they can just run three tight ends every single play if they want to. Yeah, it doesn't matter. They can practice for a full week on a baseball field. That way, playing on a soccer field feels easy to them.

19:54Yeah. It doesn't matter. Nothing matters to these Rams. They're going to be, yes, Super Bowl contenders. Devontae Adams, too. Yeah, like three touchdowns. He was awesome. he's still very good uh also here's a weird stat when trevor lawrence so this season when trevor lawrence throws for 250 uh passing yards or more the jaguars are oh and three when he throws under 250 passing yards they are four no it makes sense to me that's not probably not what you want your quarterback but you know just a little more balance i got a question for you about the Jaguars and the number one overall draft pick was that 2023.

20:35Do you remember his name? Is he the most free? I know his name, but do you know? Are you talking about Josh Allen? No, you're talking about he's the most forgettable number one overall pick. I think maybe in the history of Georgia. Yeah, Georgia. I know his name. Max, you know his name memes. You know his name, right? You're Georgia guy. What is? Trayvon Walker. Yes, Trayvon Walker. I think he's got to be the most forgettable number one overall pick ever. And it was two years ago. And it was two years ago. He isn't terrible. That's the thing. I looked up his stats. It was 2022. He's not bad. But yeah.

21:12But he's not like, he doesn't do those flashes of anything spectacular. It's also just weird now. We're in a day and age where it's just like, if you don't go QB one overall, you don't remember it. Yeah. So you can go back and – was it Eric Fisher? Yeah, Eric Fisher was one of those guys. And I didn't realize this, but his first name is actually Yuri. Was Jake Long first pick? Yeah, Chris Long's brother. For the Dolphins? Yeah, we should just do that. Just remembering guys who got picked first overall. His name is Yuri Walker. Yuri Trayvon. I feel like that would be a much more memorable name if you went by Yuri.

21:47Yeah, that would – it would absolutely stick out. Just call him Yuri Walker. All right, I'm going to look up real quick because we can go down a little rabbit hole because this is an interesting thing to think about. When it's not a QB, can you always remember it? So Cam Ward, Caleb Williams, Bryce Young, Trayvon Walker, Trevor Lawrence, Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Miles Garrett we remember, Jadavian, Eric Fisher in 2013, Jake Long in 2008, Mario Williams. I feel like we remember that just because it was the Reggie Bush debate. And then you go all the way back, courtney brown in 2000 yeah you got to like keep going it's just always quarterbacks and you're right yeah and i think that if you play in jacksonville that that also adds like an extra level to it where people don't talk about the jaguars that much in the in the national media yeah uh this i i feel bad for jaguars fans that have to lose this game to to london every single year multiple games at times but it's their home game it's their home game i i did look in the crowd i saw a lot of just nfl shield merchandise and i feel like i think there were industry plans Am I making it up, but it does feel like the Jaguars are the only team that gets the decal in the 50-yard line?

22:57I feel like a lot of times it's the NFL shield. They had the Jaguars. Yeah, because that's theirs. Yeah, it's theirs. London is theirs. They could afford to ship the stencil overseas. Hank, because you love these games so much, what was your favorite part about this game? I watched the first half, and then it was over, and I stopped watching. Okay. I liked, I don't know. that's going to hurt the ratings. It might not go back. Yeah. I don't want a Super Bowl in London. The early morning games. Oh, whatever. So we finally got you turned a little bit. Wait, what? Yeah. What time would they play the Super Bowl over there?

23:31It would air primetime. We can't do this again. We can't do this again. But you agree. It's just too much. It was a nice treat. Now it's just. They got to do it. Like they can't do it back to back to back to back to back. I know we talked about it. They're going to do it every single week soon. Or just start doing Monday Night Football. Monday Night Football. You're right. This was the last England game of the year. Next up, we got Germany and then Spain. And then we're done. Spain's going to be a movie. It is going to be a movie. I took a shower at one point during this game, and I think I timed it perfectly for a turnover on downs.

24:09And then I was like, all right, I'm going to go take a shower. And I came back out, and it was another turnover on downs. Yeah, it was a lot of that. I was like, well, that was perfect. It was a lot of that going on. I guess I will say something nice about the Jags. You made it so that we could kind of half-watch the second half. I tuned in for the first half. I was like, all right, let's get going. Let's get some football going. And then it was so clear that the Jaguars sucked and the Rams were going to win that the second half I was able to keep a side eye on. Yeah, you didn't really have to focus that much on this game.

24:38It never felt like it was close. Yeah. What's up, Max? Can I say something to Trustry? Yeah, please. Trust me. You didn't watch second of it. I didn't know this game existed until you guys started talking about it. Oh, really? You thought they were on buys? You didn't even see a highlight? I thought they were on buys. I didn't see a highlight. You didn't see a highlight or anything? I saw nothing. The highlights were basically Devontae Adams made another touchdown catch. Yeah. It was a lot of that. The one thing I was just looking at the box score. I feel like the Jags had a decent amount of yards for only seven points and no turnovers.

25:11I don't get how they only had seven points. Well, they turned the ball over a bunch. On downs. On downs, which is also a turnover. I guess. That's very funny that you somehow went the entire day. I had no idea this game happened. But that's also, and this is a good segue, that's also because Max, when the Eagles win, he spends the rest of the day like yucking it up with everyone. He's like the mayor of this office. Yeah, he even admitted it. He was like, if the Eagles had lost that game, I'd just be playing Pokemon in the PMT studio right now. Instead, he was slapping people on the back, just being like, this is so much fun.

25:47Yeah, I'm the worst. He does. He just walks around. Max becomes the king of small talk in this office if the Eagles win. My mood is just so much. It's okay. Don't apologize for it. So that's the next game. Eagles 28, Vikings 22. We should talk about the Eagles, obviously, because Jalen Hurts played great. But Carson Wentz, what a Carson Wentz performance in that first half, especially. He went back-to-back picks, and the only reason it was back-to-back interceptions, one of them being a pick six, was that the play in between the interceptions was actually a fumble because he threw it backwards eight yards.

26:27Yeah, incomplete pass. It was three plays. No, it wasn't incomplete. It was a fumble. Yeah, but he threw it incomplete out of bounds, and it counted as a fumble. Yeah, it didn't count as a pass attempt because it was a fumble. So it was interception, minus eight yards, fumble, interception. Yeah, the first interception was very funny. He got folded in half by Jalen Carter and then just laid on the ground. I realized something watching this game, Max, and I can't control how I feel. Feelings are never wrong. It's how we react to our feelings that can be wrong. I think I enjoy rooting against Carson Wentz more than I enjoy rooting against the Eagles.

27:02because watching this game, I found my allegiance going against Carson Wentz. I wasn't happy that the Eagles were winning, but I was hoping for worse and worse stuff to happen to Carson Wentz every time he dropped back to pass. I think having him as your quarterback will leave a deep scar on you that you will never forget. It was very funny the way that you were treating him. Oh, yeah. There was multiple times where Max was just saying Carson Wentz and then belly laughing. Yeah. Well, there was one. The Jalen Carter hit. Yeah, the hit. You made everyone in the gambling game. You're like, everyone watch this.

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27:36Yeah, it was funny. It was so funny. And then you saw his face like right after, as he was getting hit. It was awesome. Yeah. I've got a little game that we can play here. It's called Schefter vs. Schefter. You ready for this? Yes. I saw this game. I like this game. New game alert. This is what Schefter tweeted out today. when vikings quarterback j.j mccarthy suffered a week two high ankle sprain doctors expected it to be a six-week injury nothing has changed it still looks like a six-week injury which means mccarthy would miss next week and possibly be able to return in week nine at detroit that's shefter number one now entering the arena is adam shefter number two uh this is back from the day that the day after jj mccarthy actually sprained his ankle espn sources vikings quarterback jj mccarthy is expected to be a sideline two to four weeks with a high ankle sprain but wait adam but just today you said when it happened doctors expected to be a six-week injury and nothing has changed it still looks like a six-week injury huh what is going on he got community noted he got his own tweet with his own tweet what now why why did the timeline change adam huh let's unpack that i have a theory yes i mean it's probably the same as all of your guys theories um i thought something was kind of weird in minnesota when they uh they kind of cycled through a bunch of backup quarterbacks over the summer and my theory that i i asked lori about at the time and he laughed at me like i was a fool was that they just don't want jj mccarthy to feel like there's any pressure on him in case he has to in case he doesn't start out the season playing well yes and he got injured it was a real injury but i don't think it was a six to eight week injury when he sprained his ankle and then they put carson went to and who is the most stopgap quarterback ever yep you know that you're going to have these types of games from carson wentz and nobody out there is going to say carson wentz should be starting over jj mccarthy correct and now they're just really taking their time bringing jj back after playing he had one great quarter that he played against the Bears yes he did uh but besides that he hasn't really looked he hasn't really done anything to be excited about nope since he started I think that that's that plays into how O 'Connell is handling the situation right now where it's just like we need this guy to take more time here's here's the other theory uh and and we all do this when you uh maybe make a mistake and you don't really want to face that mistake uh you're like oh I have to i have to go i have to do something i have to go you know go to the dmv i fucked up or i have to go fight this ticket i i'm gonna keep putting it off as long as i possibly can until they tell your car until they tell your car because i don't want to admit that i made a mistake yep they don't have to face the fact that they didn't resign sam donald until jj mccarthy officially sucks and if he doesn't play you can never say he officially sucks well they had and i don't think he sucks we'll see he's young he's got to play like i'm not saying jj mccarthy but i'm saying If he sucks, they don't have to.

30:40And they might know he sucks. They might think he sucks through practice, whatever. But they don't actually have to face that fact if he's not playing. I mean, everything we know about J.J. McCarthy would be this guy would step over a dead body to get back out onto the field. Correct. And this seems like a long injury for him. Not only Sam Darnold, they had Daniel Jones, too, in the building. Yeah. Now, I don't know if they would have ever dreamed of paying him as much as the Colts did. But it was still an option. They had Darnold. They had Daniel Jones. they had some other backups that came in and out it it just seems kind of strange and and listen as bad as the Carson Wentz first half was uh it was the Vikings defense that was was not good today because they have a good defense they have uh I think going into the game they had the second best passing defense in terms of passing yards allowed and Jalen Hurts had maybe his best game in a long time at least what would you say Max Jalen Hurts was phenomenal today he had a perfect Perfect passer rating.

31:39That's the third time ever in Eagles history. The other two, McNabb and Foles. He was 5 for 5, 216 yards, three touchdowns on passes over 20 yards. He was dropping absolute dimes. He also didn't have any rush yards. He actually had negative 10 rush yards. Negative 10 rush. I think it was from the last couple plays when they were trying to kill time. He never even thought about running the football today. He just was dropping. He had some times where it was open. He could have gotten like six, seven yards without breaking a sweat, and he was just like, no, I'm not going to do that today. No, yeah.

32:12I think this was his best regular season game of his career when we really, really needed in. He was really good. The deep balls were awesome. For some reason, Jalen Hurts always plays his best football when everyone says that he sucks. Yeah. The entire. So wait, so you should, when we say he sucks, you shouldn't get mad. Yeah. Yeah. We're doing you a favor. Yeah, I think even I said that he sucked. I think I did add it right now. I think I did add it right now. Yeah. But I also said that I shouldn't be held accountable for anything that I said that episode because it was right after the Phillies loss.

32:47That's true. He was 19 for 23, 326 yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions, was hitting Devontae Smith, was hitting A.J. Brown. Everything looked like it worked except for the run game, which still looks like it's not working. Run game is a problem. Cam Jergens being out could be a big issue going forward. Hopefully he can get back soon. But overall, very good game for the Eagles. Are you happy because this was your must win or you're burning it all down game? Yeah, no. And it looked like that. It looked like they knew that they needed to win this game and right to shit. Because if they lost this game to Carson Wentz and looked as bad as they did against the Giants, I think that locker room would have just absolutely crumbled.

33:30Yeah. Yeah. I mean, your game plan today after Juergens went out was basically like, let's do everything that we can to keep our wide receivers very happy with the offense. And it works. It works. The offense is good enough where you don't need Juergens all the time. 183 from Devontae, 121 from AJ. We'll take that all day. You know who else doesn't need Juergens right now? Who's that? Mr. Rossini. Yeah. Probably a pretty happy night in the Birds household. It was a good night. I would like to see if the locker room is dysfunctional. By the way, I have a question for you, Max. And this is not a great game by the Eagles.

34:09This is going to be some bullshit. It's just a question. Can I ask a question? Can we speak in truth to it? Wait, can I ask you a question first? Yeah. Is this about to be some bullshit? No, it's not. Okay, all right. Why does Jalen Hurts talk like he's a fortune cookie? Yeah. Good question. Thank you. He can talk however he wants. So on Friday, I brought up, he had the quote, smile and accept the challenge. That's a fortune cookie. And then today he had, it's not a time to hope, it's not a time to want or wish something could happen. It's a time to make it happen. That is a fortune cookie. Jalen Hurts talks in fortune cookies.

34:51You don't know wisdom. Does he have a little... Okay, this is actually the hard... So fortune cookie talk by Jalen Hurts actually is something I'm going to need. Sometimes cliches play, though. That's not a cliche. It's not a time to hope. It's not a time to want or wish something could happen. It's the time to make it happen. That's a well-spoken man right there. I feel like, look, we can have some fun with this after he had an incredible day. He was incredible today. I'm giving Jalen Hurts his flowers. I'm just wondering why he keeps handing me back a fortune cookie. The hard question. So I'm going to be monitoring this.

35:21I think it's very funny. I think it would be funny if he just leans into it and just does only fortune cookie talk. The thing I'd be nervous about if I were you, Max, is these type of quotes are like some early, early signs of Russell Wilson. That's when you start seeing, you're like, uh-oh. Do we got a Russell Wilson in the locker room? I know, but. We should make Jalen Hurts fortune cookies. Yes. Just take all of his quotes and make them fortune cookies. I'm saying it in a nice, like, he had an incredible day. I like Jalen Hurts as a quarterback. He's a Super Bowl champion, Super Bowl MVP. Seems like an awesome dude.

36:00Guy just likes talking fortune cookies. And there's nothing wrong with that if you're winning. Yeah. Because if you're winning, everybody sees these weird quotes and they're like, I'm so bought in. This guy's operating on a different level. And the second it doesn't work, you're like, wow, that guy's kind of a cornball. Maybe we should bench him for Kirk Cousins. This is what happens. Yes. He's talking about RG3. I was talking about RG3. He's talking about RG3. Yeah, no, that's not going to happen. It's not. No, it's not. It's not because he's good enough. Yeah. He can say whatever he wants. Yeah, he had a great game.

36:32Yeah. He had a great game. He could just recite the Zodiac letters in his post-game press conferences. Sure. And everybody would be like, yep, go Birds. Fine with me. Also, having Jalen Carter and Quinion Mitchell back was very important. Oh, yeah. Jalen Carter was a monster in this game. that hit that hit was i felt i felt that one in my chest oh you did yeah how do you feel after that fat oh yeah here's the other one i just looked jalen hurts quotes i had a purpose before everybody had an opinion yeah that's a fortune cookie yeah that's like that's a senior quote right there yeah great quote i didn't walk through all that fire just to smell the smoke he's getting these from somewhere lucky numbers three 48 oh sorry probably six he's just in a whiplash in his head numbers let's see i'm gonna i'm gonna look up oh we just we just need to as as as a national sports podcast this will be our beat we just got to be on this beat that's fair the people want these type of things this is what they come to the show for they don't come for us to to break down coverages they come to us to be like hey is Jalen Hurst just is he just Panda Express?

37:42Is he just getting all his quotes from Panda Express? Last week people were real real real mad about the fortune cookie responses and this week it's fine. Do you remember when Russell Wilson he wrote up? Stop talking about Russell Wilson. Wait, no, no, no. This is relevant. Stop doing that. This is relevant. He wrote like a Valentine's Day letter to Sierra and he like posted it online and then people found out that he He just Googled what to say to a beautiful woman and just copy and pasted the first response to that. And then he posted for everybody. I feel like Jalen Hurts is heavy into AI and just like looking up on AI like, hey, what are some good motivational quotes that I could say?

38:22I am humbled because I've been humbled. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of like this. I like this. Yeah. No, it's – I don't know. He's an AI quote machine. I'll just keep saying he's wise. He's a wise. He was awesome today. That's all that needs to be said. He was very good. Also, did you like Lane Johnson basically saying, I'm not talking to the media because last week you guys took it out of context and I'm not hurting our team anymore? That's a good teammate move. Love that. He's just like, I know what's going to happen if I say anything, so we're just not going to say anything. We're going to win games.

38:55If Lane needs to say anything, he can tell us. Yeah, that's facts. Yeah. The fake Lane Johnson I was texting for a year, Ken, as well. If you have anything you want to get off your chest, man, just hit me up. Max, what do you think about BG threatening to come back? I love it. I don't think he's done. Do you think he's done in terms of he can't get it done? He's old, man. Last year he was good, but you could tell he was looking old. Something tells me he's not staying in game shape. This is actually maybe the best way this could have played out for him. He gets to do one week of being like, maybe I'll come back, and then everybody in Philly's like, yeah, come on, come on, dude.

39:36We love you. We miss you. You're the missing piece. And then you win a game. He's like, actually, I'm good. I'm good. I had that moment where I worked out really hard last week, hit the gym a bunch, and now I don't have to come back. But it was fun to think that I was going to come back. Agreed. I don't know that smashing the Brandon Graham button fixes anything. Agreed. Yeah. I don't know if he's actually the missing piece. No, you guys are good. This is a big win. We're okay. A great game by Jalex Hunt. And you have the Giants coming up. You got to get revenge. If you beat the Giants, then you're basically like that two-game blip.

40:09You just be like, forget it. And then we get a bye, and then Nolan Smith comes back. We really need Nolan Smith back. Yeah, so then just get healthy. Get healthy. Get healthy. Cam Juergens, yeah. Okay, yeah, what is up with Cam Juergens? Knee. I feel like you guys get a... Knee. That's the biggest difference between this year and last year is that we just don't have the same depth. Offensive line, yeah, Mekhi Becton. when guys got hurt last year we just had enough depth for people for it to be all right but now it's just not the same yeah maybe i mean saquon's gonna be fresh because he hasn't had a lot of yards it's not like he's carrying it's not like he's bad it's just he hasn't the yards just aren't there though i can see like he's getting so frustrated because like he's getting like tough three yard runs right you know what i mean like there were a couple runs today where he should have been stopped in the backfield and then he like fought for four yards which like doesn't look great in the stat sheet but yeah it's not his fault you know what though he'll be fine he'll be fine yeah yeah well he'll figure it out yeah uh okay next up bears 26 saints 14 uh the bears have now won four in a row for the first time since 2018 this was an ugly win not the the cleanest game uh from caleb williams he didn't play very well uh looked like he had no flow but the bears have a somewhat of an identity where their defense is incredible at taking the ball away.

41:36They had four turnovers takeaways again today. They've had 15 in the last four games, and they run the fuck out of the ball because DeAndre Swift looked awesome. Menongue looked awesome. They had 225 yards, just shoved it down the Saints' throat. And that's a credit to Ben Johnson who fixed that in the bye week, and the run game looks totally different the last two games than it did the first four. And, yeah, it was sloppy, but a win is a win. And the gateway remains open. So what is the gateway to? The gateway is to, when I said it before the Cowboys game, I said don't be shocked if this team is 6-3 or 5-4 after nine games.

42:20Okay. So they are now 4-2. The gateway is very much open. Big game against the Ravens next week. But, yeah, this is, look, Caleb didn't play well. He said it. And he looked it. He just wasn't – there was weird shit with Drew Dahlman in the center. He's our center with snaps a couple times. Actually, one of them saved us because there was the fourth and goal on the two-yard line that there was a false start and we got to kick a field goal, which it was a play that was going to get blown up. Are you talking about the one where he snapped the ball between his legs, Caleb touched the ball, and then the center brought the ball back between his own legs?

42:59He did it twice. That's such a weird thing to have. So he did it once that way, and then the other way was he moved the ball. Caleb went to get it, but he didn't move the ball, and then he tried to snap it. Caleb fell on it. They whistled it. They were like, hey, that's a false start. And then we kicked a field goal. He did got your nose with the ball. Yeah. He was like, got it. But that was kind of what the game – like it was sloppy. And the run game saved us, and the defense saved us. The defense is like kind of good. I don't know. They're good at taking the ball away. Very good. I'm always nervous about when you live and die.

43:3215 takeaways in four games is insane. You're not going to be able to do that every single week, so I understand that. But they also are playing that aggressive style where they're ball hawking, and yeah, this is a game that they had to win because they're better than the Saints, and they won this game. It didn't look great, but that doesn't matter because they won this game. Next week against the Ravens will be a big test, and I was happy that they won this game. They also are the only team in the NFL to score 21 plus points in every game this year. That's pretty crazy. So you said that they've won four in a row.

44:04First time since 2018. Yeah, with Mitch. They are averaging 25 points a game. Yep. That's also for the first time since 2018. Yep. And they're leading the league in takeaways through this point this year that is also the first time since 2018. And similar to 2018, can the quarterback come along? Feels like 18. Can the quarterback take more steps forward to unlock everything? That's actually not a hashtag you want to use. It feels like 18. No, because that was the story of 2018. That defense was incredible, and Mitch was young, and it was just like, can Mitch get better week by week? And Caleb has gotten better in the course of this season.

44:45Today was a step back, but that's also – I've taken a lot more rational approach to the Bears this season. step backs are not killer especially when you win the game yeah you can't be down about like a poor performance from caleb when you win the game and your running game was very good today again it's ben johnson wants to run the ball that's what he did in detroit that's what you forget about great like a boy genius offensive coordinators is they're very very good at scheming up the run like the the crazy plays where he's in his bag and the deep shots that gets a lot of attention but elite offensive coordinators just make the running game seem so easy and so smooth So your running backs today as a whole, as a tandem, averaged six and a half yards per carry.

45:27They were awesome. And DeAndre Swift is back to looking like the DeAndre Swift of old when he was at the peak of his powers. Yeah, he's running hard. He's hitting the hole hard. He's not dancing around. He's making the correct cuts. It looks awesome. And if this is going to be a team that has to get by on defense and running the football and have Caleb slowly progress, I mean, if you just look at what he's done this season, DeAndre Swift, he had 53 yards, 63 yards, 33 yards, 38 yards, bye week, 108 yards, 124 yards. It's clear what Ben Johnson was doing during the bye week, and he was fixing the run game, and it feels like he's simplified everything so that we can run the football and play good defense, and that's what the Bears did today.

46:12And yeah, again, it's the Saints, so I'm not going to sit here and be like, you know that was incredible for the puff your chest out i will say there is something that's starting to make me very happy to watch and it is uh packers fans complaining about the bears winning these games because i did i bookmarked it let me find it this one made me laugh uh where is it i gotta find it it was uh mark old acres i assume as a packers fans he said teams aren't even trying when they play the bear shaking my head yeah i know it's true it's true that made me happy as a commanders fan monday night i weren't even trying i don't care who cares about this game it's stupid it's just a it's a not it's not in our division so who gives a shit but i that's exactly what the saints thought today this is the progression i've talked about the progression into being no longer a bad team we're trying to get to a good team we're somewhere in the middle right now another step not only beating a team you're supposed to beat even if it looks sloppy at times another step in the progression is packers fans complaining that our opponents aren't even trying which is great that that means we're getting closer and closer when they start noticing and saying teams aren't even trying against the bears shaking my head yeah you're not rent free but rent stabilized yeah yeah you got a voucher yeah and four two is fun it's fun it is isn't that cool to like look at your team and be like four and just look at the record it's fun it's so much fun we're still not technically i believe if the playoffs started today we would still be on the outside looking in because the nfc is really fucking good which is uh it's nuts how good the nfc is i think the saints are i think we actually can say after today the saints are the only really bad team in the nfc i don't know that the saints are really bad though spencer rattler took a step back he was not he and and we almost fucked up the game because he did have that that middle eight the saints were cooking they they ripped down the field to end the first half scored in the start the second half was like looked up like holy fuck it's a six-point game uh but yeah he had too many mistakes today he sunk the saints i think that the the saints are not good they're a bad team but i i think i would probably put three teams in the afc beneath them right jets titans dolphins for sure jets yeah jets titans dolphins browns are probably Raiders, Raiders, four teams.

48:34Yeah, I would take... Whose spread would it be anyways? Raiders at Saints. You're right. I would take... Yeah, those four teams. Now, did the Saints lose to any of them? Are people going to... Yeah, we're probably going to get corrected. Okay, let me look at the Saints schedule. Saints actually fucking got dummied by the Raiders, you idiots. That always happens to us. Saints only beat the Giants. Okay. They only beat the Giants. Okay, the Saints have lost to... No, I'm saying if the Raiders had beaten the Saints, that would have been very much us. where we say that confidently and then everyone's like, hey, Raiders fucked them up week two.

49:06You forgot. Saints lost to the Cardinals week one, lost to the 49ers, lost to the Seahawks, lost to the Bills, lost to the Patriots, lost to the Bears. So, yeah, I would take all four of those teams from the AFC and put them beneath the Saints. Actually, if we're doing the power of comparison here, Patriots beat the Saints 25-19, Bears beat the Saints 26-14. that's interesting it is interesting it's interesting that's interesting what are your thoughts i mean the the saints that had crazy you know assistance from the rest and they still couldn't beat the patriots i didn't i don't think it was as bad for the bears today well teams don't try against wins yeah teams aren't even trying it's disgusting shaking my head uh you don't think about the patriots at all though what pft doesn't think about the patriots at all i know who cares Why would I think about the Patriots?

50:00He was just looking at scores. Yeah, I just looked it up right now, and I wanted to compare. I'm sorry for saying it. You admitted that was interesting when I said that. I was, yeah. Yeah, you were interesting. Are you a little upset, Hank, that I'm taking a rational approach to this? No. Okay. It's a long season. Because you want me to get my hopes all the way up and be like, Bears are back. I don't. It's a long season. Because I don't think they are. I think they're a decent team right now. I want the Bears to make the playoffs. Okay. 6 out of 10? You can't make the playoffs and not get excited.

50:37I'll tell you this. 6 out of 10. That's the key. I'll say this. For the sickos and perverts, Hank, I'm looking at you. We could finally move off 6 out of 10 if they go to Baltimore and beat Baltimore in a healthy Lamar Jackson. That could possibly move me to a 6.5. Yeah. So we'll find out. I do think we'll run the ball on them. I actually don't think about the Patriots. I think about you. I think about defeating you. Thank you. How'd the hungry dog do? Oh, who's in the hungry dog? The hungry dog's up on the season. That's all that matters. Who was in the hungry dog this week? Because we do talk about it.

51:11The hungry dog was the Bears, Saints, and Commanders, which was the worst pick. Wait, what? Bears and the Saints? I mean, sorry, Saints, Vikings, and Commanders. Oh. All right. How'd that do? So it was 0-3. Yeah. Huh. That's interesting. Did you reverse Hungry Dog it? No, I did not. Oh, because you would have won. It's up on the season, yeah. It's up on the season. You would have won if you went Eagles, Cowboys, and Bears. It's up big on the season. I wonder how much the reverse Hungry, the fat cat parlay would be. Would have been nice every week. Start taking it, yeah. Would have been a no-outer tonight.

51:47Also, shout out Kevin Byard. He's got four interceptions this season. He's been awesome. He should have had a fifth today, too. Friendly Fire took it out. There was a couple, like, that's where Spencer Rattler, I was singing his praises that he's not as bad as people think he is. I was wrong. I think he might be worse. I actually don't know. I'd be right. I disagree. I think he's. No, I would be right. He looks bad today. He's not as bad as people think he is. He's worse. Yeah. No. He looks really bad today. I still think he's not as bad as people think he is. I don't know. Yeah, today was bad.

52:18Today was ugly. Bad. His worst game probably as a pro. Do you think they're ever going to give Tyler Shuck a start? That's what we were saying on Friday. It's like you haven't really heard that name. Would you give him a start, Zach? If I'm the Saints? Yeah. Throw him in there. Yeah. Why not? Because Spencer Rattler, there was a possession where he tried to give like, it was like four different interceptions that weren't intercepted, and then the fourth was like, all right, finally, we're going to take the ball. Yeah, today was not good for the Spencer Rattler truthers. No, no. I consider myself one of them, I guess.

52:50I was one of them until today as well. Yeah. I was like, the whole time people were asking me what I thought about this game. I was like, I think he's better than you think. Yeah. And nah, nah. All right. Before we get to the next game, PFT, you wanted to, oh, let me do a DraftKings read. So DraftKings, we love DraftKings. All your favorite NBA players are back. NBA season starts in DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner. The NBA is the place to bet on NBA stars this season. Steph Curry drilling logo threes Donovan Mitchell taking over and Cade Cunningham leading the next wave with more markets open for more of the game DraftKings the number one sportsbook for live betting is live when others aren't bet quarters, player props, scoring runs and more all while the action unfolds new customers bet just five bucks and get three months of NBA League Pass plus score$300 if your bet wins paid in bonus bets download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code TAKE That's code TAKE.

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54:18Varies by jurisdiction. Void in Ontario. Restrictions apply. Bet must win to receive bonus bets which expire in seven days. Minimum odds required. NBA League Pass auto renews until canceled. Additional terms at dkng.co slash audio. Limited time offer. Okay. Browns 31, Dolphins 6. Bullshit. Oh, that's 37. Boys, that's 37. Yeah, this is bullshit. This is bullshit. Well, you guys both could have taken 37 on Friday when we did the show and you would have gotten a push. Well, no, when I was looking, it was 36 and a half. So I took that. But it wasn't. It was plus 100. No. That was the whole problem.

54:55Hank and I like the bloods in the crypts. We agree on this. And then PFT, yeah. We agree on it. When I was looking at the DraftKings Sportsbook, which is the app that we go by, right? Yes. That's our sponsor. I love DraftKings. They've got the best lines. What they say is gold, as far as I'm concerned. When we put our picks in, the line said 37 and a half. And I took the under on that. Hank won it over 36 and a half. That's what I saw. That's just not true. It is. Because Hank's bad at reading the lines. Correct. I get punished. Correct. I mean, you can go back and listen. Don't look at me. I don't know why you looked at me.

55:29I'm looking at everybody. No, Hank looked at me. You did look at Max. It went up as we were recording. I don't know what. You guys could have just taken 37. You could have agreed to it. It's hilarious. Shout out to one AWL who had the perfect score. He bet it 31-6. I told you it was a key number. 37 was a key number for me. The most key number. Yeah. The number one key number. I was so sharp that I knew it was going to be 37. I didn't want to take it. Got bullied into it. That's fine. That's fine. Listen, I ended up negotiating myself out of a very strong position on Thursday's show. This was maybe the straw that broke the camel's back for Mike McDaniel.

56:09Would you say that showing up to the game that will most likely get you fired as the Unabomber is probably not the best look because that's what Mike McDaniel looked like. He had the glasses on in the rain. He had the hood up. Unabomber didn't get caught for being such a wanted guy. Yeah, Unabomber also a smart guy. He was smart. He had a lot of degrees. He's a Michigan man. And Harvard. Yeah, but a Michigan man. We put him on Michigan. McDaniel's a Yale guy. Yeah, that's true. But let's talk about the Browns first because then we have a lot to talk about Tua and Mike McDaniel. The Browns, first time in 11 weeks, they score over 17 points.

56:48They score 31. They had basically a perfect game plan for this weather. They just pounded Quinshawn Judkins. Dylan Gabriel threw it 18 times. They went in jumbo set, like constantly just being like, hey, you see what we're lined up in? We're going to run the ball, and it's still going to work. He had three touchdowns. their defense was phenomenal they turned 2-0 over 3 times they actually forced, I don't know if some of them were slippery but there were 6 fumbles by the Dolphins they recovered 5 of the 6 so they only lost 1 fumble but the Browns are built for this weather this is why we can't do the Kurt Warner everyone playing a dome the Browns should be able to get like 1 win a year just based on the sideways rain, wind bullshit Yeah, the bring a poncho, bring your towel game.

57:41They know how that's the 12th man for the Browns is the weather. And this was it was ugly. It was always going to be ugly. And the Browns had a great game plan for the defense. That works well in the shitty weather, too. Yep. The Browns now have won two games in the past 329 days, which is pretty crazy. They doubled their win total in the last 329 days. And I had a thought when I was watching this. This is like textbook prisoner of the moment. I admit I'm being prisoner of the moment when I say this I like this But I thought about it and I'm still in the moment So I might still be prisoner Okay I actually think that the Browns might be in a good position for the next like two years from now the Browns might be okay maybe hey let me just that at the end of two years that at the end of two years of two years of the Browns right now the Browns to you.

58:33in a good spot okay so i want to agree with you uh the only question i have as always with these teams is uh who's going to be owning the team in two years it's still going to be mr haslam that's a problem yep yeah again i understand that the ownership is going to be the same probably the same general manager uh next year deshaun watson i think has an 80 million dollar cap hit that's about to kick in but the defense is fucking awesome and they've got a lot of young pieces on defense and they've got two first round picks next year they have 10 total picks next year including two first round picks two first round picks dylan gabriel is probably not the answer at quarterback no uh shadour but he won a game probably won't he probably won't see the field maybe they'll convince somebody to trade like a fourth round pick for shadour this season yep But the defense is good enough, and they've got a good young running back, and they've got a good young tight end.

59:32Their offensive line has some good guys. Yeah. They're not a great line, but they've got some good guys on the offensive line. I like this. And they've got – everyone keeps telling me I'm crazy for saying that Stefanski is a good head coach. He's a very good head coach. He is the Browns head coach. Right. And the groceries that he cooks with were purchased for him by Andrew Barry and Jimmy Haslam. and he can only work with what he's got. I think Stefanski is a good head coach. He had nothing to do with Deshaun Watson. I actually think two years from now, the Browns could be a very good team. When does Deshaun Watson come off the books?

1:00:06Well, I just saw, I think the$80 million is next year and then I think they're free. Okay. I think they're free of him after the$80 million, which is just a crazy cap hit to take. Listen, I want the Browns to be good. They're like next up in the fan bases. You know, Lions, obviously, Dan Campbell's transformed that franchise. The Browns need it, especially because there's a chance that Baker wins MVP. Yeah. But yeah, the Browns, this was a fun day for Browns fans. You want a true Browns football game where you just dominate on defense. Did you guys see, too, our coworker, Ohio State? He's a crazy, crazy sports fan.

1:00:45He bought his dad a whiskey glass for Christmas called the Perfect Whiskey Glass, And it was only to be used when his high school team won, Ohio State won, and the Browns won all on the same weekend. So today was the first day he could pour and use that glass. That was the first time? Yeah, it was awesome. That is good. The perfect whiskey glass. That is good. It's pretty fucking awesome. There's nothing like when you hit all the stars line up over the course of a weekend and you get like a good equinox for a sad sports town. Yeah. Good for them. The perfect sports weekend is quite something. Now, on the other end, the Dolphins, I feel like they should just start Quinn Ewers now.

1:01:27So they pulled Tua. He had three picks. It was also weird because afterwards, I think, what were they down when they pulled Tua? Were they down 31-6? It was a lot, yeah. And Mike Daniel afterwards was like, yeah, it was much more about him and what he was doing on the football field. I thought he gave us the best chance to win. Talking about Quinn Ewers. you had no chance of winning that game you just were frustrated with watching Tua throw pick after pick after pick yeah and I'm not saying like Quinn Ewers is going to give you a better chance to win over the course of this season but like start Quinn Ewers because fuck it Tua was 12 for 23 100 yards, 0 touchdowns, 3 interceptions it's just been you remember the Dolphins yeah there's the perfect glass, see it a drink to celebrate the perfect weekend when the high school Buckeyes and Browns team all win.

1:02:21That's pretty cool. That is nice. Remember when the Dolphins was two years ago when they were 9-3 and just demolishing everyone and everyone's like, this offense can't be stopped? Yep. It's just been doom and gloom since. Yeah. Yeah. It's been really rough. And I feel for McDaniels, the fact that he has to go out there and keep addressing the media about his own firing. He called it offensive. He said, the way I look at this job is I find it very offensive to all parties involved that you're asking me if I'm going to be fired. If I'm thinking about having a job, I need to be doing my job. As long as I'm the coach for the Miami Dolphins, they will get everything from me.

1:03:00I refuse to spend my time thinking about something that you have your job, you do your job, and you do it to the best of your ability. And that's where my concern lies. I think it's offensive to all coaches, players, and the organization if I'm spending that precious time thinking about myself. Yeah. I think he should spend some time thinking about himself. Yeah. I think he probably is spending some time thinking about himself. Like, what team does he want to go be an awesome offensive coordinator for next? Yeah. He has any number of very cushy landing spots that he could take if he wanted. He'll be a great offensive coordinator somewhere.

1:03:32Which is a very cool job to have. And he'll probably win Super Bowls as an offensive coordinator. Honestly, if I can be honest with you, I think I'd rather be an offensive coordinator than a head coach. Yeah. You just get to draw plays, and you don't have to do as much work. You paid a lot of money. Game like this, you can go sit in the booth. Yeah, you don't. Nobody even sees how low your pant legs go on your ankles. You hang with the boys. Yeah, he was wearing rain pants today. He was wearing rain pants today. So congrats to him. He did wear appropriate pants for the 1-6 record. Is it 1-6? 1-6?

1:04:05Yeah, I think they're 1-6. They're just bad. Bad, bad, bad. really really bad that's all i got about it oh actually i have i have tyreek hills tweets during the game which sum up the dolphins perfectly uh he said uh watching your team play through a tv is hard that's facts let's go fins let's turn this thing around in the second half and then his next tweet was also where she rice is so dangerous chiefs back rolling love to see it he definitely turned off the dolphins game to watch the chiefs oh yeah he's watching without Out of doubt. He was out of doubt. He was like, I can't fucking watch this shit anymore.

1:04:42There was one cool play for the Dolphins today. I think it was Larry Broom. Yes. Was that a fumble or was that a reception that he had? Yeah, I don't know what it was. I think it was a fumble that bounced into his hand. It's hard to tell sometimes with Tua if it's a fumble or a pick. Yep. But, yeah, it just took a caram into his hand. Larry Boreham, number 79, and he got jacked up. I love watching offensive linemen run with the football because they don't have any of the awareness of where defenders are coming from that a receiver would have. Credit to him for not fumbling. Yeah, he's a bear. He was a bear.

1:05:16That's never a good sign when you have ex-bear offensive linemen playing offensive line for you. No. We're not exactly known for offensive linemen. Right. And, yeah. Also, the Dolphins were 1 of 13 on third down. It was just – if you didn't watch this game, every stat is actually not doing justice to how bad the dolphins were they just they just could not do anything at all whatsoever it's like they didn't they didn't think to game plan for the weather right and you just it was just all so so bad yeah so so bad but credit to the browns i'm happy for browns fans the perfect weekend for browns and ohio state fans uh okay next up hank Patriots 31 Titans 13 that was a were you scared at any moment it was scared I mean the the cam war touchdown you know they took a lead early and it was like oh is this not gonna be is this gonna be a tight game it was a 10-3 game then it was a 13-10 game then it was 13-10 Titans 10-3 Titans and then it was 31-13 and it all happened in basically a blink of an eye because it was Drake May touchdown pass to Cam Ward with a true fumble where it was comically bad, where he just empty hand, nothing in it, right in the shadow of his end zone.

1:06:42He does that a lot. Yeah. Small hands. Just nothing there. But remember, when he starts playing the way he wants to play, league's going to be fucked. Watch out. Yep. It did feel like, though, Hank, to start this game, you're like, Like, oh, is this a Mike McCoy fired coach bump here? But it lasted for maybe a quarter. Yeah, they got a quarter out of it. And Mike McCoy is just looking at him, not interim head coach material. They got to get an interim head coach. They got to get someone fatter. Yeah. Do you see him doing the steps before the game? You know how Vrabel always does that? He goes up and down the stadium steps.

1:07:17He was just walking up and down the steps. This man is not getting anybody fired up. Yep. Yeah, the Patriots killed him. Drake May does not throw in completions. It's pretty crazy. He was 21 for 23. 91 % completion percentage. Franchise record for a quarterback. Franchise record, and he's 77.1 % on the season. Pretty damn good. Yeah, very good. And that defense, Titans didn't get a 50-yard rusher. The Patriots still have not allowed 50 yards to a running back. All season. It's exciting. What are you thinking, Hank? I mean, we're on a good run. We got a great schedule coming up. Who are you playing next?

1:08:00Let's play who's on Zenway from DraftKings. Where is that game? Gillette. That's probably going to be Patriots minus four and a half. I would have said four and a half as well. Six and a half. What is it? DraftKings Sportsbook. Patriots or Browns at Patriots. It is six and a half. Six and a half. Yep. I'm dialed on these lines, man. Damn. dialed okay you feel good about that game feel great about that game i feel great about this team i feel great i mean ryan whitney he texted me said you gotta give those idiots a bunch of heat for you know laughing at you when you mentioned the patriots being the best team in this podcast so i'm excited are they they're not currently so then why would you wit why would he laugh right now because we're on the right path but the bucks are here and the eagles are here are the patriots better than the bucks and the eagles right now yes oh okay okay well then you You can laugh, then feel free to laugh.

1:08:53You can laugh, but yeah, laugh. The schedule's a joke. You play who you play, Max. But feel free to laugh, then. What would you like us to do about the schedule? So unequivocally, you're saying it better. I remember you saying the same thing to the commanders last year. Nope. That's all I'll say. Uh-oh. I don't remember saying that. We'll see what's going on here. Were you saying that last year? I don't remember saying that last year. Max is right. But no, I mean, you got to play who you play, and then you get into the playoffs, and you have to play the good teams. Eventually, you're going to have to play good teams.

1:09:22Yeah. And that's what people said about the Commanders. They made it to the NFC Championship. Yeah. Beat a couple good teams. That's true. Who's the next good team you play? The Bucs. They just don't. The Bucs. At the Bucs. That'll be a fun game. Yeah. It'll be a good test. That will be. Steve and Che will be all up in your ass. And Zach. And Zach. Ooh. Oh.

1:09:47He's so bad. Hank can't help it. He's so cocky. I can't help it. Hank, what would disappointment look like to you this season? Disappointment would look like not making the playoffs. You guys did lose to the Raiders. That's a great point. Yeah, we did. It's too bad they beat the Bills because otherwise you would have been able to do that stat. I know. The Bills fucked everything up. I'll just toss in a casual on Sunday. Oh. Drake May has yet to beat a 500 or above team on Sunday. Wait, no, that was a Sunday night game. Was it? I thought it was Monday. It was Sunday. It was a Sunday night game.

1:10:24Shit. Fuck. All right, I'll have to think of a different way to phrase it.

1:10:31You know what? We need the bills to go under 500. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I got to do. The bills go under 500. Then you can just keep going with that. Do you think it's a little early to be taking victory laps on, especially the Bucs and the Eagles? No. As Whitney has asked you to do. No, but it was more like you guys didn't laugh. Like you guys were. Yeah, I did. I laughed. It was a ridiculous statement. Definitely laughed. And now I think it's, you know, the odds are a lot better. Yeah. For sure. Memes, turn on your mic. You said it. Week one, you said it. Yeah, you did. Yeah. Yeah, you did.

1:11:07That's true, memes. Good point. You should have doubled down. Yeah, week one, you were like, oh, yeah, we suck. I was wrong. I didn't say we suck, but I said we might not be. I said might. We'll have to run that back. We're going to have to find that clip. We're going to have to find that clip. Right now, Hank's not drawing from any library of truth. He's just saying what makes him sound best. Yeah. Listen, I'm excited about this team. We're good. He also just has Whitney and Gaz just texting him and just gassing him up. Just getting him fired up. Dave did not. We're back. Just getting him fired up.

1:11:39The fight say, hold on to your heirlooms. Just getting fired up. Enjoy your heirlooms. The last thing we need is Patriots fans to win another Super Bowl. I'll be honest. Are you thinking Soupy? I can't do that. Wait a second. Are you thinking Soupy? Why not? Right now. Why not? Okay. Why not? We've proven we can beat the Bills. I mean, the Chiefs, like, going into Arrowhead and beating the Chiefs to make the Super Bowl would be... Memes already found this clip, by the way, of Hank. Oh, great. Let's play it. It would be... Great job, Memes. I feel like I might have got a little too ahead of myself.

1:12:16Might have. This Patriots team is just not going to be there this year. Might have. Not going to be there this year. So we were just listening to you. When I said there, I went to the Super Bowl. And we might not be, but that could have been wrong. So really, Whitney's laughing at you. Let's listen to the rest of the clip. Probably not. Never mind. I saw there were still 10 seconds left. I thought maybe he was going to continue. Yeah, I mean, it was the Raiders week one. I don't know how else he would have reacted to that, but I was wrong. Vrabel turned the ship around. Players would die for him.

1:12:56Vrabel was very, like the locker room videos, this one meant a lot to him. Oh, yeah. And just greeting everyone outside the locker room after they win. It's just a good time to be a New England Patriots fan. It was, again, I know it's a long rebuild, but we're back. Turn the ship around like a lighthouse. Drake may does look insane. You just got to keep him not concussed. He probably was concussed. He said he was alright. He said he was fine. Well, he has to now. He came back in the game. Is there any concern that... He'd be like, no, I was actually really concussed. Like a young quarterback like that, these running guys, they might get hurt.

1:13:31Doesn't that keep you up at night? I feel like he's a passing guy. He had 62 yards rushing today, eight attempts. I mean, this guy, he's going to be subjecting his body to a lot of hits but he's he's proven himself as a passer i think that you gotta be you gotta be careful with a guy like his passer rating the last like yeah i want a guy that stands in the pocket are unbelievable best abilities available i don't i don't want these newfangled guys that just take off and and try to put people in an n1 mixtape i want a guy that'll stand strong in the pocket you know you can actually it's actually you can get hurt in the pocket too yeah but no when you're running like that subject you're opening up that throwing shoulder legs head but yeah the you can get injured ribs you could get injured anywhere in the pocket out of the pocket yeah i'm just saying something to think about yeah i i get nervous when i watch drake may run well congrats thank you guys uh drake may looks awesome thank you and you i guess yeah the bucks is the next i mean would you say it's would you are you going to be reassessing if you lose to the Browns or Falcons.

1:14:31No, Falcons are a solid team. They didn't look like one tonight. Listen, it's the NFL. You can lose games and still write the ship. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Okay. Well, here's a team that can't write the ship. Chiefs 31, Raiders 0. The Raiders are so bad. That was one of the worst games, I think, that's ever been played. The Raiders, just to put it into perspective here, the Chiefs had 434 yards. The Raiders had 95. The Chiefs ran 77 plays. The Raiders ran 30. 30 is an important number because the Chiefs had 30 first downs. The Raiders had three. Three first downs. The Chiefs had 21 first downs in the first half.

1:15:22That was as big of a beatdown as you could possibly have. The Raiders are just dog shit. And fun fact, that was actually Andy Reid's first regular season shutout. 427 career games coach. That is crazy. Isn't that nuts? Yeah. So the Raiders had 25 yards rushing. They had 70 yards passing on the day, 3.2 yards per play. And those numbers don't even sound as bad as the game was. And the only person that this snuck up on was Pete Carroll. Yeah. Because Pete Carroll said after the game, this was a game I didn't see coming. I think he's the only man in America who was surprised that the Chiefs are really good and the Raiders kind of stink now.

1:16:04Yeah. And we did see the inevitable benching of Geno for Kenny Pickett in this game. Yep. And then Kenny Pickett stepped in and I think immediately fumbled the snap. Yeah. On his very first one. Geno went 33 plus game minutes between completions. Yeah. He had a completion with like three minutes left in the first quarter, and his next one was with two minutes left in the third quarter. Yeah, it was bad. It was quite a long time that he went without a completion. The Chiefs had the play of the week, though. The Mahomes? The Mahomes. Yeah. He was lining up. Yep. It was fourth and what? Two, fourth and three.

1:16:39I think it was close than that. Maybe fourth and one. Yeah. So Mahomes gets under center, and then he does the fake hard count to try to get them to jump off. The Raiders don't jump off. and then Mahomes, the mic caught him going, this fucking never works. Actually, let me rephrase that. This fucking never fucking works, man. Yeah. And then it went back under center and they did snap the ball and got a first down easily. And it made Tony Romo very uncomfortable to hear those swear words. It did. I don't know. Yeah. He's like, oh, man, he said some choice language. This fucking never fucking works.

1:17:09I mean, that was awesome. They probably shouldn't have wasted it against the Raiders. Yeah, but they'll do it again and it'll work again. Yeah. And they were just putting that on tape so the refs know to look out for it, and so they'll call it correctly the next time the Chiefs try to do it. The Chiefs are – I mean, Rasheed Rice was back. He scored two touchdowns in the first half. They just – like, this was over so fast. The Chiefs are so good. We said it a couple weeks ago they're winning the Super Bowl, at least getting to the Super Bowl. I stand by that. They had eight guys with a catch, six guys over 30 yards receiving.

1:17:44can I tell you guys parlay I'm thinking about doing that is a dark dark thing to do but it's also like hey if it's gonna happen we might as well make money for it Dodgers no Chiefs no Dodgers are like minus 10 million to win the World Series no can you pull it up on DraftKings right now Max Ohio State to win the national championship and the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl I think it's like 20 to 1 I mean it seems it feels it just feels like something that you should just just do and forget about it like don't even think about it just be like you know late January comes around and Ohio State will have won the national title and the Chiefs will be uh in the AFC championship game and then you can figure out and you can be like all right I'll I'll hedge now why don't you add Scotty Scheffler Masters in there just throw it in there it's 20 to 1 20 to 1 yeah I mean seems like a save i the chiefs are just really good and they have everyone back now and they're going to be really good and their defense is awesome and uh yeah i don't what i mean they're what are they four and three now and they're they're the the favorites to win the super bowl like that just tells you what people think of the chiefs yeah i i kind of like the nothing ever changes parlay though that's good like add the panthers in there for uh for nhl yeah because This is just like if it happens, sports fans will be upset.

1:19:12Yeah. Rightfully so. But we'll have won money. Yeah. It's not a terrible idea, right? No, I like it. I actually like it a lot. Yeah. So that's the... Panthers a little juicy. What is that? Panthers and Scotty Scheffler? Panthers, Scotty Scheffler, Chiefs, Ohio State. I might have to throw that in there. $100 would win you$95 ,000. Imagine how happy you'd be. I mean, again, it's like, I don't want this to happen, but if it's going to happen, we might as well get something from it. I've never seen a more obvious statement game than the Chiefs had today where it's like, Rasheed Rice is back. Yeah, we're going to remind people that Rasheed Rice is very good.

1:19:54They forced it to him. We're going to force it to him and just have him put the league on notice. Yeah. What do you got? Should we have the Dodgers? Dodgers. Next year? No, they don't have it. They have just right now. We'll just throw that in there. That'll up it to$140 ,000. Like that. By the way, this is never good when Ashton Gentry, after the game, said, if we're being honest, it's been a losing culture around here for a long time. He's been there for like six months. He's sick of it. And he can sniff it out that it's a losing culture. He got six carries today. And that's not like the Raiders game plan being dog shit, which it was, but that's just they were playing from behind the entire time.

1:20:36But six carries, one reception, it's just bad. It's really bad. And they didn't have Myers. He didn't play. Yeah. And Max Trousby went out of the game with a knee injury. I think he's going to be okay. They said knee and back. Gino said he's pointing the thumb right at himself. Okay. I mean, that's – Like thumbs up? Yeah, you know it's bad when your quarterback has to be like, it starts with me. Mm-hmm. anytime that is said in any press conference shit's going real bad this is a uh every spot is up for grabs week for p carroll yeah yeah bring in a basketball team bring in the aces yeah get a little competition going in the in the uh practices you know what they just need to have their minds blown i think you got to bring in a magician off the strip you think o's yeah bring in o's gotta get in there david copperfield it's gotta get in the mix like we're gonna we're gonna make something we're gonna make the entire stadium disappear yeah i like that uh but yeah just completely non-competitive game in every in every facet every facet uh raiders are just dog shit when are the raiders gonna win another game well they got the jaguars next are the raiders on a bye now they must yeah raiders on a bye jacksonville that's a team that when they go on a bye you forget they exist yeah because i don't who who would you have starting in your fantasy team that would be well maybe myers yeah bowers but he's hurt hurt that's a you think that that raiders players actually do they leave vegas on a bye week or do they just get to enjoy vegas yeah i think they probably just go to a pool pool party i think they just enjoy vegas yeah they're gonna they're gonna play the jaguars the broncos the cowboys the browns browns defense gonna fuck them up too that's a bad team that's a really bad team bummer team all right uh another bummer team panthers 13 jets 6 memes well panthers aren't a bummer panthers are above 500 for the first time since 2019 don't look up how the rest of that season went they were also four and three in 2019 than at 5-11, but they're above 500.

1:22:47The Meow Mix curse is as real as real could be. Since the Meow Mix boys retired their podcast, the Panthers are 3-0. They won a game on the road. Bryce Young did get hurt, which sucks, but their defense was all over the place today. Yeah, yeah, credit to them. And Bryce, when he got pulled, he wasn't terrible today. It was the best that we've seen Bryce Young on the road maybe ever because Bryce Young, I think, was 1-15 on the road going into today. They shouldn't. I know that you can't lose a job because of injury, but Chubba Hubbard, it's Rico Doudle's job. This is Rico, yeah. They tried to split the carries, and it wasn't even close who was more effective.

1:23:28Yeah, you got Rico. Rico is the future of that team. I have a lot of things that I want to say about the other side of the football. Okay. No, let's just stick with the Panthers for a second. Yeah, yeah. Andy Dalton. Yep. Andy Dalton's still out there. Good to see him. We got Andy Dalton and Joe Flacco the same weekend. Good to see him. We're not old. Nope. All our favorites are still in the league, which I enjoyed. Xavier Leggett had a nice scramble drill touchdown catch. Yep. He's got a hilarious accent. I love rooting for that guy. I'm running out of stuff to say as I delay talking about the Jets because I feel like memes might kill us.

1:24:03Memes, is this still hurting? Today, it still managed to hurt. that sucks um memes what the fuck goes through Aaron Glenn's mind in the last five minutes of halves

1:24:27what are you specifically talking about this I think you're talking about the punt I'm talking about two things that he did today both halves today the end of the first half he again just kind of let the clock run out did not even attempt to hail mary yeah the end of the first half uh i was pissed about what he said in the media that he was gonna take he should have done the hail mary versus the broncos yeah he didn't he said that's on me and then he he just repeated the same thing this week he did the same thing it's like they didn't even want to try to score at the end of the half is his fear i i don't know what what's his fear in that situation like i don't want to i don't want to risk getting picked off and then giving up a pick six like 105 yard pick six at the end of the half to be fair that has happened with the jet okay yes all right happened against the dolphins on uh day after thanksgiving that is fair okay i remember that that's fair but he did say that he wasn't going to do that again that he like that was a mistake that yeah no he said that he said that a week ago all right and then at the end of the game they were down the The Jets were losing 13-6.

1:25:31They had the ball with two minutes left. Now, granted, it was on their own, what, 12-yard line? Something like that. It was fourth and 10. And then... Might have been fourth and 12. Then they punted. They punted with, like, two minutes left. Down seven. I didn't necessarily disagree with that one because of how bad the offense was. Yeah, Justin Fields got benched in this game. Feels like that's done, right? Yeah, that's done. He's just a scared puppy out there. Yeah. Every single defense is just setting new single season records. I've got a sad stat about Justin Fields. Good guy. I like him as a person.

1:26:17He is now 14-36 as a starter, and that is the worst winning percentage in NFL history for that many starts. Now he surpassed Blaine Gabbert today He did start on an intentional Rebuild Slash tank Bears season But yeah it's bad I think a lot of quarterbacks have been Have started on rebuild Yeah yeah yeah It's bad It's actually even crazier that there was like a legitimate Civil war on Bears Twitter Over Justin Fields or Caleb Williams at one point Yeah Which is not It's crazy to think about And then, Memes, the other thing I wanted to ask you about when it comes to the Jets defense, are we sure Aaron Glenn was ever good at coaching defenses?

1:27:07The Lions defense last year was decimated. That's facts. Yeah, but, okay, 2020, they were 32nd in the league. 2021, they were 29th in the league. 2022 they were 32nd in the league 2023 they were 19th in the league progress 2024 they were 22nd in the league decimated decimated though and the 20 and 21 were that was still bad yeah they rebuilt but i mean i guess what i'm saying is that most guys that end up becoming head coaches that were defensive coordinators have like elite defensive units yeah like that was a top five unit i don't know if he ever had it he never had a top 15 unit well i'm at the point where i'm not defending him so i i agree with you there like he doesn't really do much for the defensive side of the ball right now it's all steve wilks so the stuff he's doing as a head coach is also mind-boggling like i just i just don't know where the jets go at this point yeah tarod you could do to you could do to rod but the depth of the team like garrett wilson went out their number two wide receivers josh reynolds then they have tyler johnson and alan lazard uh like every coach we've had on this podcast they talk about like good players it's all about players play and the just just don't have that and they're just they have bad head coach bad quarterback and just bad players and to just blow it up.

1:28:47I don't even know how you blow it up. Yeah, I think you got it. You know what? I'm going to say something that you don't want to do, but you're going to have to do. You're going to have to get back on Madden and restart as coach. I got fired from the Browns and Titans this weekend. What? And Titans? No, how? You just don't give me a chance. How do you? One year in? One year in. How do you keep getting jobs? What are you doing that's getting you fired so quickly? The Browns won. I had Shador playing well. We went 5-11. Okay. Fired.

1:29:27Titans, I did the opposite approach. Traded all my picks. Got good players. Missed playoffs by one game. Fired. Oh, no. I think I'm rebuilding the Raiders next. Yeah, you got to get the Jets back. What goes through your head when the screen, when you finish the season and then it pops up like you've been fired? Just an audible fuck. That happened twice this weekend? Twice this weekend. What days? Is it the same day? No, Friday and then hit the reset Saturday. Played an entire season at like 11 p.m. Wait, do you ever make it? Do you ever get fired during the season? No, it's always at the end. oh man so at least you survived the season survived one season yeah now do you get to find out who they hire as a head coach after you you do so who have you been replaced by it's always computer generated okay not a real name so that actually hurts even more you know yeah you know what's really weird about aaron glenn is uh after last week the media asked him hey have you thought about benching Justin Fields and he he scolded the media for it and he was like you know how this league is why would you even ask me a question like that no there's enough blame to go around I'm not putting it on this young man he like got real indignant when it came to being even approached about Justin Fields and then halfway through this game he's like yeah we're gonna bet you yeah we gotta get rid of this guy yeah he's just digging his own grave really he scolds the media talks down to the media and then the media just kills him after every single bone head decision yeah it's fine to to talk shit to the media but then you have to back it up back it up a little a little bit not yeah not asking for the world the only thing i will say is the defense has played a lot better yeah that's just now the offense that's true it just seems that every single week it's a different part where you just point at where it's just like let's come together as a team but it's just let's try to on the Jets win.

1:31:34Yeah, he said Justin Fields on asked about not getting in the end zone. He said, how do I explain it? We didn't get in the end zone. There's a lot. I don't mean to be rude, but there's no explanation to be honest with you. That's got to suck to be asked that question. Like, what do you want him to say? We suck. Like, that's just it. And Terod can move the ball a little bit. He just can't throw it deep. He was just He's under-throwing everyone. He had two guys wide open. Yeah. He just can't reach them. There was a couple plays that were called in that made me think. I was like, oh, the offensive coordinator actually is good.

1:32:10It's just we don't have the guys for the plays. Yeah, you're right about the defense. They're the second team in the last 10 years to allow 13 points or fewer in consecutive games and lose both games. I would assume the Browns probably were the other team. They might be up there, yeah. Is Max just watching replays of the Vikings failing to stop the tush-push? that's just the for you page they did go sideways on that we forgot to mention that yeah that was funny shout out also i love that people on twitter like this isn't even a false start people are so broken by the tush push that they're just doing slow motion of this is so offensive so you have been watching this is so offensive to memes that we're talking about the jets and you're like let's talk about the tush push let's talk about let's talk about all the babies i didn't have some babies out there complaining that we didn't get a tush push in the game we won the guy the guy is literally said I was hoping that memes is going to answer the question of did this hurt with no nothing can hurt me anymore because you got to get to that numb part we've all been in bad season seasons where you're just like I'm numb I'm apathetic who cares you're still not there no it keeps getting lower I don't know how it keeps getting lower what would rock bottom be I don't know yeah are we not we're not at rock bottom yet we're we find new ways every week Yeah, this one felt especially because it was like – if the Panthers had killed you, be like, all right, we're just really, really bad.

1:33:36But 13 points, to hold them to 13 points, you're like, oh, we could win this game. You just couldn't. You couldn't. And the young guys on defense are playing well. The linebackers they drafted aren't. They're able to stop the run, but – Hasn't Sauce been pretty good? Sauce has been great. Only got thrown at twice today. They play the Dolphins. again. They play the Browns. Yeah. Saints at Saints. But you said you're rooting for 0-17. It's a tough process when you're rooting for 0-17. Memes, you know what? I mean, you've got to circle November 13th. You've got to circle December 28th. November 13th is going to be...

1:34:25I think we're streaming that in the PMT studio. Hank vs. Memes. so mean. I mean, imagine. Memes, if you guys win two games all year and you beat the Patriots twice, I think you'll be a happy guy. Oh, yeah. I'd say one. Yeah. Yeah. It's got to be the first time, though. No. Doesn't matter. No, because then you can hold that over him for a while. If he beats you the first time, then you win the second one. He can be like... But if you win the second one, you can hold it over him all year. Yeah, but the second one is also... You literally did that to the Packers. Yeah, but the second one, though, that's true, but the second one is when the Patriots might not be playing anyone.

1:35:05You literally did that to the Packers. The Packers were playing people. But if you beat them in primetime games with the whole world watching, you got to go all in for November 13th. Rest guys up. We're just going to get embarrassed again. I know what you're saying. You're trying to... It's just... I'm trying to pump you up. I'm envisioning how that's going to go. and it's yeah Hank's smiling right now his head is spinning he's doing a dance he's doing a TikTok dance right now you can't see him oh geez alright well memes I yeah I was hoping your answer do you think maybe next week we can get to a point where it's like it doesn't hurt anymore that's where you need to go you need to get to a point where you just turn it off they play the bangles next week yeah bangles defense is horrible yeah it doesn't matter that does not mean I'm just trying to help you.

1:35:56It could get low. Joe Flacco revenge game. It's trying to get lower. I'm trying to help you out. You can't be thinking that way. What, negatively? No, like the Bengals defense. You think positively. Yeah, you're like, you just thought you were getting hurt. You thought, like, Bengals defense, not very good. Maybe we'll score some points. You got to stop. You should be able to move the ball. You got to stop. Yeah, yeah. You got to get two defensive touchdowns. They got to miss an extra point. They got to miss a field goal. Being able to throw a forward pass is too positive. Yeah, yes. No, you think you can win the game.

1:36:34So here's the thing. Aaron Glenn comes for Parcells. Parcells' thing is there's always a path to victory. You got to figure out the path to victory. Throw a forward pass. Yeah. Throw a forward pass. Hey, Terod, you had 10 completions today. Yeah, it's just like I said, the deep ones were tough. I want Jameis. well yeah i've wanted jamis yeah i agree if you're gonna suck suck in style do it i agree jamis would win you a game 100 yeah jamis would have won this game today i did like the the panthers are like uh they're four and three and they're they're positive momentum but their twitter accounts posting like it was a loss did you see that it was just panthers 13 comma jets six yeah they're they're just kind of like hey we're not going to get ahead of ourselves i like that good for them four and smart smart enjoy this this is an all-time week of just staring at your record for panthers fans yeah four and three baby and then who do the panthers play they got the bills oh next okay and then bills off a bye then at the packers but then you got the saints okay okay and i as far as i'm any divisional game i could i could see the panthers being competitive they're at home against the bills though yeah they don't lose they play well at home yeah yeah all right uh let's do a couple ads and then we'll get to the afternoon games we'll get back to the games in a second it's brought to you by pft i'm here making my irish entrance with proper number 12 irish whiskey how do you make an irish entrance you might ask well it starts with a shot of proper number 12 irish whiskey because real friends don't let friends irish exit a party without a story to tell original proper number 12 is a rich smooth blend of golden grain and single malt aged four years in bourbon barrels.

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1:39:41Terms apply. Okay. Afternoon games. Hold on. Let me take a swig of water. Shout out body armor. Colts 38, Chargers 24. Holy shit, the Colts are awesome. I got this game wrong. Colts fans reminded me of that. I was just merely... I think I even said on Friday, I'm not selling on the Colts. I'm just trying to find a spot where I can sell on them. Yeah. But that's neither here nor there. If you bet against a team, people get upset. I was very wrong. The Colts' offense is, I mean, they're perfect. I don't really know what else to say. Like, Daniel Jones is playing perfect football. Alec Pierce, Michael Pittman, Tyler Warren.

1:40:27Oh, and then let's just throw Jonathan Taylor right down your throat with a three-touchdown game. His third of the season. and he has more than the entire NFL combined in terms of three touchdown rushing games. Their offense is electric. They put the Chargers in an immediate hole. The Chargers started slow. They turned over Justin Herbert twice in the first half, and that was it. They just controlled the game. They scored six out of the first seven possessions. The Colts are not going anywhere. They are as legit as legit as could be. and Daniel Jones, if you're waiting for him to just suck, he just doesn't.

1:41:05And he's now made$600 ,000 in bonuses because he's won six games. Yeah. Shout out to Daniel Jones. He's surgical. Like when Alec Pierce is sprinting downfield, he's one of the best deep threat targets in the entire league. He's always open. Daniel Jones finds a way to get the ball to him. Yep. They've just got like so many ways that they can hurt you. If it's Jonathan Taylor, who might be the best running back in the NFL still, they've got a great deep threat in Alec Pierce. they've got Tyler Warren that does everything not just catch the ball he runs the ball he blocks they've got Michael Pittman underneath and they've got Daniel Jones who if nothing's open he can run and he'll get you first down and they've got they've also got Jim Merce on their side yeah this feels like just uh you can stop looking for faults on the Colts you can stop being like oh look at the jersey look at the logo they stink they've stunk for a while they are going to be a very good they are a good football team and they're going to stick around for a while they It clicked for me today when it used to be when Daniel Jones would escape the pocket and look downfield.

1:42:08You'd be like, oh, this is a problem. Now I'm just expecting him to complete a huge pass downfield. And that's like the way I see him now is completely different than what I used to see out of him. And now I'm expecting good things to happen when Daniel Jones has to escape the pocket and throw deep. There's certain quarterbacks where the ball leaves their hand and you're like, oh, fuck. And Daniel Jones was that guy. And now you're like, this is about to be awesome. Correct. And it's very rare that you'll see a guy make that change where he becomes a, oh, I'm excited to see where this ball goes.

1:42:41As opposed to, oh, no, here comes something just heartbreaking. Yeah. And Justin Herbert finds himself on the other side of that equation more and more recently. Yes. Especially if he's in the red zone, thrown into the end. You think that something bad might happen. I'm not selling stock on Justin Herbert. I think he's a very good quarterback, but he also gives just enough red meat to all the haters to be like, yes, I claim victory after this performance by Justin Herbert. The red zone interception today when it was in the first half and it was like, okay, the Chargers can answer here. That was a bad one.

1:43:18Shout out Rondé Gadsden, though. What a game from him. Seven catches, 164 yards. but they can't block for Justin Herbert. And the Colts defense, by the way, played really well today. They're banged up. Chardavious Ward has to go on the IR, so he's going to be out for a few weeks. I think they got Kenny Moore back, which is big in their secondary. But they've been shuffling guys in and out, and they've been able to find ways to make big plays and turn the ball over. And that offense is just humming to a point where they can play with a lead and they have Jonathan Taylor, and when they play from the lead, they're going to squash you.

1:43:57But, yeah, Justin Herbert, the first three games were awesome, and then it's gotten a little bit worse. And he actually, the craziest part is he had a career high in yards today. Yeah. How many did he have? 421. That's crazy. Yeah. So he played well at times, but every time he plays well, he does something that makes everybody be like, oh, this guy sucks. Now, Max, you are a Justin Herbert nonbeliever. I wouldn't say that. You kind of were saying, I think you were saying in the cave, you're like, fuck this guy, whoever says he's good. I just think that Justin Herbert is the biggest, like, what if, what if, what if quarterback of all time.

1:44:38And I'm sick of hearing the what if when this guy, like, just shows time and time again that he's just like a big stupid pick guy. He throws all the stupid picks. Put that on a quote card. He's a big stupid pick guy. You're right. He was. He's probably the biggest. But it's like every year it's like Justin Herbert is so fucking good if only he had this, if only he had this, if only he had this. And it's like at some point you just got to be good. You know what I think it is? I think that every team, every bad team looks at Justin Herbert and they think to themselves like I would kill for this guy.

1:45:12Oh, I would kill for him. Yeah. And every team that's got like a very good quarterback looks at him and they're like what's wrong with this guy and his picks? I remember when there was like, I think it was a made-up rumor, but it was like the Bears trade the number one pick for Justin Herbert. I was like, yes. Like, no offense to Caleb or whoever the Bears are going to pick, but Justin Herbert. So I was definitely in that camp. Yeah. But he is a big stupid pick guy. He's got to cut down on the stupid picks. We have some pretty heartbreaking news that I came across. Our guy Shane, ring guy Shane.

1:45:48he used the hashtag pretty close to not being bolted up anymore. That's brutal. So loose bolts? He's in a bad spot I think. They just gotta find a way to their offensive line is just getting fucking smashed. It was also frustrating at the end of this game because it felt like they didn't have any urgency whatsoever when they had the ball. How long was that drive that they went on when they were down by 14? Like nine minutes? It was like a nine-minute drive that got to the 35-yard line. Yeah, it was bad. But the Colts are good. Colts are the best team in the AFC right now. They might be the best team in the NFL in terms of just like, we'll see what happens if the Bucs lose.

1:46:31They'll have the best record in the NFL. So if you want to go by records, but I also want to go by just what I'm watching, and the Colts are really fucking good. What do you think Daniel Jones has to do for him to get a lot of respect across the league? It's happened for me. Like I said, it clicked in my head today where I am no longer saying, oh, no, here comes Daniel Jones. And I'm saying, oh, fuck, Daniel Jones is about to just do something sick. Because he's just so quietly good. Yeah. He's like Ben Affleck in the account if there weren't any guns. And I thought this was the game that the Chargers were going to catch him.

1:47:06And I was way wrong. Way wrong. Yeah. I did nail the Browns game. These uniforms. Oh, my God. Chargers uniforms. It was too much yellow. It was entirely too much yellow on my screen. The most unserious uniforms you could possibly have. Yeah, at least when the Jaguars did it, they added that little bit of mustard, spicy brown to it so it looked like baby poop. Yep. They just were wearing piss. And they're getting clowned by the Colts afterwards, rightfully so. I think they had a tweet basically comparing themselves to the Minions. I don't know if the Chargers have watched the Minions. Those guys do luck into a lot of awesome situations.

1:47:45I'd like to hear Harbaugh's thoughts on the minions. He could probably dive deeper into that than we could. Harbaugh had a testy press conference where he was just doing avoidance on everything. Their defense got gashed today. I think Derwin James just said that. We just got 40-piece at home, and it wasn't close. Zach, are you a big minions guy? I got nothing but respect for the minions. Yeah. You like Kevin? I'm in all things minion. Yeah. I like the Minions, too. They're funny. They're fun. Yeah, they're very funny. But they're not an NFL team. No. It means get smoked on the field. Yeah. Bad.

1:48:23Although they would, you know, they would, like, luck into a touchdown somehow. Oh, like the Flea Flickers are hitting. The Hail Marys are hitting for the Minions. Yeah. But, like, the third and ones aren't hitting for the Minions. The opponent's dropping the ball at the gold line against the Minions. And then they're like, oh, we'll pick this up and run it the other way. Oh, we scored a touchdown. We won. We're the Minions. You could see that happening The minions Memes, what were you going to say? Are you a minions guy? Minions are a great team They'd win this game They would luck into it The minions would not play smash mouth football The minions don't run the ball Accidentally they're weak They're weak against the run They could accidentally do anything They'd probably run the most gadget plays They're probably very good at gadget plays but not actually doing they would just happen by i mean i'm a big minions guy but yeah they would accidentally win this game i think that's fair to say they would never do that um yeah jim harbaugh was not uh yeah he was he was avoiding every question and and did not seem like he was in a good mood maybe there's there's a chance jim harbaugh maybe loves justin herbert too much where he's not going to do what max just said and say like hey you're a big stupid pick guy like let's face the facts maybe he needs to say that to him I think there's a decent chance that Jim Harbaugh was running scout team quarterback as the Colts quarterback this week getting ready for it because I used to play for him let me just put the helmet on there I'll do a better job than anybody for the record I also know no stats on Justin Herbert's picks so I could be wrong it's a good stat big stupid pick guy big stupid pick guy Yeah, Jonathan Taylor has three games now with three rushing touchdowns.

1:50:11He has 11 on the season. Games with three-plus rushing touchdowns, three. The Jets' games with three touchdowns, two. Hmm. What are you looking at? I didn't say it. I'm sorry. I didn't mean it to be, but that's a stat. Like, that's just show. It's more of Jonathan Taylor's so good. He's so fucking good. And he does the thing where he does the touchdowns. It's kind of like Saquon last year where you're, like, on the 24. You're on the opponent's 24. You're about to be in the red zone. You're like, all right, here we go. This is where it gets tight. He's like, you know what? I'll just do it right now in one play.

1:50:53He also had, I think, the coolest touchdown celebration of the week when he got in the end zone and just started skipping. Yeah. That was pretty cool. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we'll see what happens with I Feel Bad for Shane. When he's not ready to get bolted up. Oh, Memes, you don't like that. You don't think I should feel bad for Shane? No. He's almost not bolted up. He's got a winning record. He's got a franchise quarterback. Nut up. You lost to a good team. Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. I think it's more that they started 3-0 and they have looked bad since. Injuries happen to everybody.

1:51:25Nut up. Nut up. So we've got to stop bolting up and we've got to start nutting up. Memes just keeps saying back here, you guys wouldn't last a second in my shoes. It's probably true. PFT's moping around about his quarterback being injured, but you have a franchise quarterback. We'll get to that game. Thanks, Memes. Yeah, we'll get to that game. Makes me feel better. We'll get to that game. Hank, you can shut the fuck up right now with that sigh. PFT, I think PFT logged two words said for four hours this afternoon. Yeah, it was bad. All right, we'll get to that. I looked up this afternoon, and we were 10 minutes into Sunday Night Football, and I had no idea the game was on because I was just sitting here staring at my computer.

1:52:08I'm usually locked on with my Sunday schedule, and I went to a K-hole. Yeah. All right, next game, Packers 27, Cardinals 23. The Packers have won a game on the road. They looked not great doing so. It basically was the Packers offense is, I don't know what it is. It's kind of still a work in progress where it looks clunky at times. The Packers defense arrived today. Micah Parsons had three sacks. Rashawn Gary had the big strip sack in the third quarter. That's what got them back in this game. Also credit to Matt LaFleur, big balls of the floor. I don't know if you saw the sequence where it was fourth and two at the Arizona 29 with 230 left, and they were down three.

1:52:54Line up to kick a field goal, call a timeout, which was their second timeout. So they basically were like, this is it. We're burning the boats. If you don't get this fourth down, you now only have one timeout left. The game is over. Draws up the perfect play to Tucker Craft, gets a fourth down, scores a touchdown, wins the game. That was a big balls move by Matt LaFleur. Yeah, it was. It was like you're going to have to sit in this if this one play doesn't work. And on the Cardinals side, they have now lost five games by a total of 14 points. Their last five games. It's pretty crazy. I think it might be 13 points.

1:53:34Lost by one point. Lost by three points. Lost by one point. Lost by four points. Lost by four points. That's 13. So we got four. Four. One, one, three. One, three. Yeah. That's 13 points. 13 points. And they also, every single of their last five games have come down to the last play. Three of them field goals kicked against them. Two of them Hail Marys that did not work in the end zone. And they've been winning or tied in all five of their losses with, I think it's under five minutes left in the fourth quarter. Yeah. Not only that, they've lost three straight games after leading by seven or more points entering the fourth quarter.

1:54:15That's hard to do. That was just some nice jazz, some nice sad Cardinals jazz. talking about how bad their losses have been. And this one felt like they were going to – I actually thought they were going to win this one. I did too. They're 0-5, by the way, since the Michael Vick jersey. Yep. 0-5. Listen, Jacoby Brissett, I don't think you can watch the Cardinals now and be like, I miss Kyler Murray. Jacoby Brissett is just – he's better at running this offense than Kyler was. Yeah. It's – I think the Packers are really good, aren't they? They just don't look as dominant? You don't think so, Max?

1:54:53You don't think they're really good? I mean, they're 4-1-1. I don't know if they're really good.

1:55:02What constitutes really good? Being top three team in the NFC?

1:55:10Who would you take over them? Let's do it real quick right now. Would you take your Eagles? We'll find out. We play them in a couple weeks. I would take right now. Definitely the Bucs, definitely the Rams. That's what I was going to say. Bucs, Rams, then Packers would be how I'd rank the top of the NFC right this second. They killed the Lions. Yeah, but that was week one. It was. But until that, you know. I mean, the Packers. And the Cowboys tie is actually not looking as bad. No, but the Packers lost to the Browns. They did. They did. That was a crazy game. And then they beat the Bengals by nine.

1:55:45They barely beat the Cowboys. Yeah, I mean, I don't think they've been impressive with their wins. but the Lions was very impressive. Yeah, the commanders. I mean, they did body the commanders. They've also won all of their games. They've won. They've won. They've scored exactly 27 points. It's kind of weird. That is kind of weird. I think that they're a very good football team with an extremely good head coach, which makes them. We have better wins. The Eagles have better. I agree. Here's my fear. Here's my fear about the Packers. I think they're a very good team that is rounding into form to get even better.

1:56:22Do you know what I mean? They're going through the bullshit, figuring it out, and they're going to figure it out, and their offense is going to look really good at some point. It's going to be like, fuck. It's going to happen. And Micah Parsons' three-sack game, it's going to start happening. They're starting to find Golden, too. Yeah, they're not a finished product, but they're going to get there, and then I'm going to be like, God damn it, I knew it was going to happen. Yeah, what's scary is they're a good team that's getting better. Right, and their wins are not blowing teams out yet. This is all fears I'm just saying out loud.

1:56:59That's where I'm worried. I think they're a very good team. I'll say it. They're a very good team. Packers are a very good team. I won't go very good. Newtlers are better than Packers. Okay, okay. Neutral site. I need you to feel that way. I'm just looking at The two teams that I said That are better than the Packers The Eagles have fucking beat Yep So what am I talking about here They lost to the Browns Are the Browns better than the Giants No Probably not Probably same Yeah they're probably same But the Giants killed you When our entire defense was out True Good point. Good counterpoint. Thursday night.

1:57:44Thursday night. Weird. Doesn't count. Yeah. And they were bummed about the Phillies. Yeah, everyone was bummed about the Phillies. Imagine if your audience said that after the game. Big Fangio is a huge Phillies fan. He would start his Monday press conference every week of what the Phillies' magic number was to clinch the playoffs. All right, so maybe I'm just getting ahead of myself that I'm getting myself mentally prepared for the Packers rounding into form. I do think the Packers are very good. I think their offense has not looked smooth, and I think it will eventually, once it does look smooth, then it's going to be like a watch out.

1:58:20I think it's just like you're not going to win every week in the NFL. You're going to lose some games that you should win. The Packers, most of the time, they win those games, and they win them decided. They're always going to be a good team when they have this core and they've got Matt LaFleur as their head coach. They're not going to just go out there and suck. They just never will. Who do they play next The tie really fucks everyone up. They're at the Steelers, Panthers, Birds. Sunday Night Football. Birds on the 10th. That's a Monday Night Football game. Max, sorry. No, that's November. Yeah.

1:58:55You're going to have to watch Monday Night Football?

1:58:59That's an off day for you. Yeah, that is an off day. Oh, yeah, yeah. I thought you were asking me. No, you're going to have to watch Monday Night Football. Yeah, no, I think I will be attending that game. Oh, okay. Nice. I think I will be boots on the ground. Love that. Very cool. Love that. Oh, that's in Lambeau. Yeah, it's at Lambeau. Oh, okay. All right. Next game, Cowboys 44, Commanders 22. PFT? Mm-hmm. Yep. We haven't talked. No. You were sitting here in silence, which is understandable. Yeah.

1:59:38Did anyone talk to him after the game? We all avoided any conversation. Yeah, avoided. I gave him some nachos. You did. The nachos were actually great. That was the best part of my night. Thank you, Max. All right, so let's talk. Yeah. I'm in a bad mental state right now. I'm feeling bad. I'm feeling like last season was a mirage, and nothing ever good is going to happen to the Commander's franchise ever because nothing good ever has happened to them, with the exception of last year, which was awesome. and I should have known that the universe would just circle back on me and that nothing good.

2:00:19We're never going to have a successful team ever again. We made the NFC Championship game. That was very cool. I enjoyed every second of it. Now all of our players are hurt. We are starting wide receivers today. Robbie Chosen was our wide receiver one. Not Luke? Whoa, don't disrespect Luke. Luke played his heart out out there. Luke left his guts on the field. Great job with the return game today. Robbie Chosen was our wide receiver one. We had rookie Jalen Lane. We had Chris Moore, who's a journeyman. The offense sucked. It didn't look like football. Our defense was worse. Our defense couldn't stop anything today.

2:01:04We just won't be able to stop anything. The Cowboys just had their way with us. Jaden Daniels got hurt. and for a second I thought it was I thought it was Dunzo I thought ACL this is what I've prepared myself for mentally every time he gets hit I think something bad is going to happen something bad did happen to him I think it's just the hamstring he might be okay I don't know how long he's going to be out Marcus Mariota came in and he gave a thumbs up and he gave a thumbs up and I have tickets to Arrowhead Stadium next weekend for Monday Night Football where now I guess I'm going to go watch Robbie Chosen and Marcus Mariota get their shit pushed in by Patrick Mahomes.

2:01:43Marcus Mariota, didn't he win a playoff game in Arrowhead? Remember when he threw the pass to himself? Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, so he's got experience there. Come on. It was bad. The offense looked completely disjointed. But most importantly, here's the problem. Our defense is bad, and we have a lot of old slow players that play out there for us. And having Jaden have so much success as a rookie quarterback, that kind of got rid of the rebuilding plan that we had because you got to go all in if you have a good team so adam peter was like fuck it let's just go all in we'll trade away some draft picks we'll try to get some weapons let's try to win right now let's get latimore at cornerback and in reality uh jayden just covered up for a lot of bad stuff about the team last year yeah which i i said going into even like the end of the season like i don't think that we're a very good team We're just pretty good.

2:02:38And then Jaden is just able to make stuff happen on his own. We're deep, deep. We should be deep in a rebuild, but we're not. And that is a problem. That's going to be a problem moving forward, I think. It was bad. You saw the game. Yeah. There's not a lot to be happening. I'm starting to just think that everything that ever good happened last season is just, it was nice. Hey, I had the time of my life. 2024, what a magical run that was. I was so happy. I was a happy boy. And then reality set in. And then Jaden started to get banged up. And then I realized, same as it ever was. Yeah. And that's where I'm at right now.

2:03:23What's the, I mean, the Jaden injury sucks. Yeah. And he's, this is the second one this year where he's been banged up and is going to have to miss time, which sucks. where are you at? I guess we've got to find out what it is. I think it's a hamstring. Okay. So just wait until he's all the way healthy. Don't risk it. Right? But he's going to want to play. Yeah, right. But you don't want to. If it's a hamstring, I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen. This Monday night against the Chiefs, it's going to be the saddest trip that I'll ever go on. Yeah. I'm planning. I'm going to have to plan my flight my hotel room wait you haven't bought any of that stuff?

2:04:07I do but I got to go through the whole thing of getting ready to travel on the road, go to the airport pay money for an Uber to take me to the airport fly on a smallish plane a regional plane into Kansas City go to a tailgate endure people being like hey we're about to kick your ass today then sit in my seat for an hour getting my ass kicked and then go back probably pretty drunk to my hotel and then go to sleep, wake up early in the morning on Tuesday, fly back, walk through the airport in Kansas City after just getting my ass kicked, land in Chicago, and then get into a cab driving directly into the office where I will then have to talk on part of my take about how I just got my ass kicked last night.

2:04:55That's what I'm looking at right now. Whose line is it anyway? Well, here's a positive spin zone. It sounds like you might not have bought the flight. Just don't go. No, I did buy the flight. Are you sure? I got the flight. Yeah. You got the hotel? I got the hotel. You sure? Yeah. Got all that. I bought the best seats I could possibly find. Shout out Game Time. Shout out Game Time. I used Game Time, and I was like, you know what? This is going to be a torch passing game. Mahomes. He might play. He gave a thumbs up to his mom. He did. Also, shout out to his mom. His mom wants people to stop saying RG3.

2:05:30You're manifesting that. Just stop saying. His mom said that? There's a difference. There's a difference. She tweeted, I wish you would stop manifesting RG3 on my son. Words are powerful, and that's all that's talked about. Yep. I agree with Miss Jackson. The replies are not pretty. I feel like she should maybe just not have a Twitter account. It's not pretty. It's not a pretty scene in the replies. She's in a lot of stuff. Did you see she got to catch up with Tom Brady before the game? No, I didn't see that. Beautiful moment. She's in a lot of pain. Nice warm hug. They caught up? Yeah. That's good.

2:05:58That's good that they caught up. nice warm. Mike Florio said early indications are the commanders QB Jaden Daniels. Injury is nothing serious. Okay, that's good. That's good. I mean, even if he does play next week, I don't know how you can win a football game with those receivers. How did he look before he got injured? He actually didn't look bad. The fumble that he had when he got injured, that was that was a bad play. He was throwing the ball pretty well. I think they had three or four drops and the commanders also lead the league in drops now, which is not helping things. No, But I don't think he looked bad.

2:06:28He was running pretty effectively. He was pretty accurate. It was just mostly like the game started, the Cowboys scored right off the bat, and we were just playing catch-up. The Cowboys' offense is awesome. It's very, very good. CeeDee Lamb is back. He had 110 yards and a touchdown just in the first half. Jake Ferguson is awesome. I mean, we know George Pickens, Javante Williams. They're just loaded on offense. They're a fun team to watch. how much blame do we put on Jerry O 'Connell? I mean, a significant amount, obviously. He released a video if you want to play it. Yeah. Because he did say in the fantasy preview that Jaden Daniels was going to break all the records and was going to have like an out-of-this-world year.

2:07:16Can you find that, Max, the video he just put out? He said he's already moving off. He also did a Valley Girl accent just out of nowhere, but not as a bit. I think he's hanging out with his daughters too much. And Kelly Stafford. Yeah. We're done with Jaden. We hope he's okay, but I want to apologize to all the AWLs for saying in my fantasy preview back at Camp Barstool that Jaden was going to break all records, and this is going to be a big season for him. It's just not happening. We have Dart on the bench, and the Giants are the future of the NFC East. What time was this recording? Somewhere in the fourth quarter.

2:08:05He gave the thumbs up to Mommy there, but we're moving on, PFT. We're moving on. He just broke up with you. Well, no, he's saying that because Jaden's hurt, obviously, so he's not going to start Jaden next week. But he's going to come crawling back to Jaden the second he has a good game. I'm trying to figure out. When does Terry come back? I don't know. I see. Noah Brown. He still got paid. I don't think Noah Brown lives in the state of Virginia anymore. He hasn't been around. Terry obviously being hurt sucks. Debo was very clearly hurt in Monday Night Football. I don't know. We just don't have anybody to throw the ball to outside of Zach Ertz.

2:08:41Luke! Luke. You're disrespecting Luke. They didn't look at Luke today. And Luke was out there just fighting his dick off for you. couldn't get even a sniff it's yeah mentally i'm a puddle i i just melted into a puddle today when when jayden got hurt because you do go back and you flash back and you think if your team's never been good you think oh nothing ever good is going to happen to us again uh i i still completely believe in jayden long term i don't think that the rg3 comparisons are accurate at all because because Jaden, his rookie year, was way better than RG3 was his rookie year. RG3 had like six good weeks.

2:09:20He was injured for a little bit. What Jaden did his rookie year and what I've seen out of him, he's still a very, very good quarterback. There's a lot that's going wrong around him, and also the injuries suck that he has to deal with right now. But I agree with Ms. Jackson. I stand with Ms. Jackson. Ms. Jackson, I got your back, always. Yeah. Max, anything as the NFC East foe? I don't have much to say. I don't like to see my friend upset. I don't like this. I don't like the vibes. I want you guys... You asked me a question. I answered the question. I want you guys to be antagonistic. I want to get mad at somebody.

2:09:57I put the commanders in the hungry dog. You're making me mad about the pity. Well, that's because you're a bad guy. I was riding with the commanders. Yeah, no, clearly that was a huge mistake, but I really believed in them. You put the cowboys in the hungry dog until the line flipped, and then the commanders became the favorite, or the underdog, so you switched them. Meme said he wants to get you mad. Get me mad. Because, like, yes, I've been sad. Go ahead, Meme. I would rather be mad than sad. He has been sad. Like, he's been – I walked in here, I don't know, like 6 o 'clock, and he was just sitting by himself, just not talking.

2:10:30I looked at Tankathon today. Oh, God. I looked at Tankathon. I know. I just did. You said you don't care about the Patriots. You only care about me. but is the fact that Jaden came before Drake May, have you thought about that at all? Has that even crossed your mind? The thought that I have is that a million times out of a million, I would take Jaden over Drake May. A million times. Okay, good to know. Yeah, a million times. What about staying on the field? It would be a positive step if he could. Memes, go ahead. You want to get him mad? No, he's just stealing my whole flow. So get him mad. Memes is a sad guy.

2:11:10You got a new owner. You got a new quarterback. Yeah. Listen, I love - Get your own thing. Yeah. I love having - Get him mad. I love Dan Snyder. Booth, get him mad. Oh, here's something good. Dan Snyder's yacht ran out of batteries and went adrift out in the Atlantic Ocean last week. That's fucking awesome. That is awesome. Yeah. He had to get towed in by a little puny tugboat. Loser. Yacht's batteries? Or his engine or whatever. You remember that one that - Ran out of gas? The one that ran into the bridge. That's what happened to Dan Snyder out in the middle of the Atlanta. That's awesome. Got it.

2:11:42Yeah. So that kicked ass. No, you're right, memes. I have a lot to be thankful for. Get him mad. That's all I had. No, but I'd rather be mad than sad. I don't like that you guys are like, oh, is he okay? I'll be okay. Max, he ranks above Jalen Hurts. Yes. All offseason. I mean, that's fine. He's backing his own guy. Yeah, no, I know. But you could. I don't know. I don't know. The Commanders don't look very good right now. They're not good. Their defense is old. Are you worried that the Bears' season completely collapsed after they lost to the Commanders last year and that this year that might happen after the Commanders lost to the Bears?

2:12:24I, too, read Twitter replies. Hank, here we go. Here we go. No, I'm not. I'm not concerned about that at all. I don't think that there's a weird voodoo curse that's going on between a game between the Commanders and the Bears that happens every year. But it is now looking. It's one loss. We lost to the Cowboys. We're probably going to lose to the Chiefs. And then we have the Seahawks. And then we got the Lions. And then we get to go to Madrid. I might. Yeah. Then we get the Dolphins in Madrid. It's a very hard schedule. And our team's bad. Did you read the Twitter replies to Ms. Jackson since you read Twitter replies?

2:13:00No, I didn't. Out of respect to Ms. Jackson. You didn't? I thought you read Twitter replies. Out of respect to Ms. Jackson, I don't think that we should. You have an intimate relationship with him, which is really weird. We can say whatever we want about your boyfriend. He loves his mom. What can I say? I'm reading the Twitter replies. He missed her. I read Twitter replies. Well, you already read those. You already read those. What do you mean? Why are you rereading? Well, you said you read Twitter replies. I'm just reading some to you. I think that Miss Jackson is a great mom. She's got nothing but the best interest for her son, Jaden.

2:13:31and sometimes maybe people get the best of her and provoke her online. Your son is injury prone. Tell his skinny ass to get his weight up. Thoughts? He's got a skinny ass. Actually, if Jaden came, you know what he needs to do? Spend the offseason, just add 30 pounds of anything. I also don't think he's injury prone. We're not there yet. Yeah. We're not there yet. We're not there yet. We're not there yet. He broke a rib last year. Oh, Max, you disagree. I'm looking at your face. I mean, it's... You can only be judged off of your... Okay, he's got a sprained knee this year, and then he pulled his hamstring.

2:14:21Correct. Yeah. Injury prone. We don't know if he's going to miss any time, though, with a hamstring. It's true. If he misses time, injury prone. that's three injuries now in two years that have caused him to miss time. Injury prone. I mean, he can, I guess, change the narrative, but right now the narrative would be injury prone. I would like to see his ass get a little thicker. There's one way to realize how injury prone Jaden Daniels is, and that's you watching him run the football. What do you mean? that every time he runs the football, you're just like, be healthy, be healthy, be healthy. I know, but that's what I'm saying.

2:15:04I did that week one. Also, Dak Prescott needs to buckle his chin strap tighter. He's getting calls for face masks just because his helmet's flying off. That's on you, Dak. Yeah, fuck Dak. Did you see RG3's tweet about this game? I did not. That did not come across my desk. I'll send it to you guys. Why don't you just say it? It's a podcast. Well, it was a picture, so it's tough to say a picture. I bet it's a hilarious picture. It's a meme. Yeah, it's a good meme. Does it involve a croissant? It does not. You want me to pull it up? Yeah, pull it up.

2:15:38Dear football fans, this is... Oh, wait, no, that one. He loves to do the safe space. Oh, it's a picture of him reacting to the Cowboys score. All right. Are the Cowboys... Wouldn't you want a quarterback from your old... Wouldn't you want him supporting the commanders? your golden boy Tom Brady left your team and went down to Florida he would never post a meme with a shocked face if the Patriots got blown out against a division rival hypothetically if you had an all-time legendary coach you would hope that he did not leave and then completely forbid his new team on posting anything about your old team allegedly yeah Yeah.

2:16:24PFT. I think everything's going to be just fine. Jaden Daniels is going to be fine. And Debo and Terry are going to come back. And then you guys, you know what? Here's what I think is going to happen. I think you guys are going to be the team. I think you're going to be the team that, like, maybe people will bury you in the next two weeks. Probably three. Three. Three weeks, yeah. And then you'll be like, uh-oh, watch out. Here come the commanders. Yeah. I mean, that could very well happen. It honestly could become a problem for America. Right. Because we've got Monday Night Football against the Chiefs.

2:17:00I think the Seahawks is a primetime game, too. Yep. The Madrid game. Yep. Like, there's going to be a lot of Commanders football. But I can see you guys being the, oh, watch out, here come the Commanders kind of team. You know, like, where it's like, oh, yeah, we forgot because Jaden Daniels got hurt and they lost a couple games. Watch out. I'd rather we might get healthy at the right time. Yeah, that type of situation. Things were so good when we beat the Chargers just a couple weeks ago. We scored 27 points. We used the Packers formula. It is true. The whole, like, rebuild comment is true that, like, Jaden Daniels, if you could fault him with anything, he was maybe too good year one.

2:17:34Yeah. Because it's like you went all in on, like, an old defense. You're going to have to just get younger on defense. We need probably two new linebackers. We need a new safety. We need a new cornerback. We need a tight end to step up. I don't know why they don't throw the ball to Ben Sennett. We need a lot of help. We need another receiver. There's a lot of stuff that's going wrong right now. And, yeah, it was a bad day. I got a question that's not commanders. I'm sorry, PFT. This day did suck for you. Pretty bad. I felt bad. I thought it was ACL for a second. I was about to just – I almost left.

2:18:13I almost pulled a meme, so just went home for a little bit. Yeah. Collect my thoughts. Also, you did a great job up until this point. of not being sad. I'm more angry now, which is good. All right, good. Hank did a great job. Yeah, there you go, Hank. That's a good friend. I got you, yeah. I got a question for the class. Are the Cowboys, like, they're not bad. Their offense is very good. I don't know. CD's back. What? CD's back? Like, their defense is bad, but there's something. Cowboys, I don't know. There's just something about it. It's like, they're going to be in every game. Yeah, Dak is playing as good as he ever has, and when he's got those two guys, it feels like there's not a lot that can stop him.

2:18:54Yeah. You can maybe take away Seedy or Pickens. I was almost right about the Pickens ejection, too. Lattimore got in his face a little bit, and they wanted to fight. Yeah. He got broken up. Oh, I got this for Cowboys fans. You're playing the Broncos next week. That's a gateway game right there. I gave you the Bears gateway game when it was against the Cowboys. If the Cowboys can beat the Broncos, they would then be, what, 4-3-1? And they have very winnable games against the Cardinals and the Raiders coming up. That could be a very quick. If they can somehow beat the Broncos next week, we could look up and the Cowboys could be 6-3-1 going into a huge game against the Eagles.

2:19:34Yeah, I think that this season has now become – I don't think that the Commanders are going to make the playoffs anymore. I don't see that coming close to happening in the schedule and how we're playing. But I do see the possibility of the Cowboys getting good enough for the Cowboys fans to believe in themselves to then get hurt by the end of the season. There you go. So, yeah, we're rooting for the Cowboys against the Broncos. Get the 6-3-1. Yeah. Okay, last game. Broncos. Broncos 33, Giants 32. That was an insane game. What happened? Insane game. The Broncos were dead. The Giants had them completely dead.

2:20:11And then the Broncos scored 33 points in the fourth quarter to win the game in the fourth quarter. NFL teams have won 1 ,602 straight games when leading by 18 plus points in the final six minutes. The Giants blew that one. The Broncos, it was insane. It was just absolutely insane. They're the first team in NFL history to score 33 points in a fourth quarter after being shut out in the first three quarters. I can't imagine the sample size is that big for that. But still, that's how crazy it was. They broke NFL history. Bo Nix basically sucked for the first three quarters. They couldn't do anything.

2:20:55And then he's like, hey, wait a second. I'm Bo Nix with a little assist from Jackson Dart in a terrible interception. It was an incredible. I mean, like, what a game. What an insane game. This was a Tim Tebow game. Yeah. This was, it was a carbon copy of Tebow mania, but it should have been Jackson Dart. They got the Tebow mania bow mania. Uh, it was, it was crazy at the end. Like it felt like the game slowed down for bone X. He was running. He was scrambling effectively. He was fun and open guys. It was just a completely different looking team in the last like three minutes of their offense than it was for the previous entire game.

2:21:29And, and, and the giants, like they blew this game. They blew it. Like, Jackson Dart can't throw that pick. Also, Brian Dable, you went conservative. Like, that drive where he threw the pick was run up the middle, run up the middle, and then Jackson Dart get us a first down. He threw a bad pick that flipped everything. And then at the end of the game, when they go down the field, they got maybe a questionable pass interference call to get on the one to score. They got two questionable calls. Two questionable calls. The pass interference and the roughing the passer. And the roughing the passer.

2:22:01You're right. Yep. and they score their kicker, who's their backup kicker. Graham Gano, I think is still hurt, missed his second extra point of the day, so it makes it a two-point game. And then they didn't rush Bo Nix at the end. And Bo Nix, I think they dropped eight. He was able to find big chunk play. They had 33 seconds left. There was some also freaky numerology going on because they did a statue for Demarius Thomas. he passed away when he was 33 they scored 33 points in the fourth quarter they got the ball back with 33 seconds the start of the comeback was the Broncos scoring a touchdown in a two point conversion which is 8 then another touchdown in a two point conversion which is 888 Demarius Thomas' number so there was some cool stuff there and a crazy crazy game the Broncos are good the Broncos gotta stop fucking around because they did this with the Eagles too where they were down all game and then they just woke up at the end.

2:23:04That feels like they're playing with fire, but who cares? They're 5-2. Yeah, here's the drive chart for the Broncos in their first three quarters. Punt, punt, punt, punt, downs, end of half, punt, punt. That takes you to the end of the third quarter. They couldn't do anything. Here's the fourth quarter. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal. Yeah. Crazy, crazy into this game. Credit to Sean Payton. Sean Payton got a penalty called on him after that pass interference, which was bullshit. Yep. That was a great penalty that he got because he was essentially telling the refs, like, you owe me so much right now.

2:23:43Who cares if you go half the distance of the goal from the one-yard line right now? Nobody cares about that. Nobody even tried to hold Sean Payton back. That was some bullshit that they had to fight through and overcome. But the Broncos, they just turned into a different team. It was a Tebow, as close as you'll get to a Tim Tebow game, ironically, on Demarius Thomas Day. Yeah, it was just an absolute wild scene. Yeah, Bo Nix was just, he remembered, oh yeah, I'm Bo Nix, I could start winning this game. He had four touchdowns in the two passing, two running in the fourth quarter alone. 174 yards.

2:24:19I don't know what to make of the Broncos. They are a good team. But they have stretches where it's like, what is going on? Why do they look so bad? And that first three quarters looked like the London game against – like if you look at the Broncos' last three games, they have played like maybe two good quarters. But they're 3-0 in them. So it's a wild team to watch week to week and be like, when are they going to turn it on? When are they going to wake up? Their defense – I think that's really what it comes down to is their defense keep I know their defense gave up 32 points today there was that weird tipped ball to the tight end their defense does keep them in games so that they can have these type of games and I they are a good team but they're also just playing with fire every single week they are the reason why I still think the Broncos are a legit team is because the two losses that they have you could say were equally as freaky as some of the wins yeah so they've been on the wrong side of that same coin a couple times.

2:25:27Yeah, they play every game this way. They're going to keep playing close games and hope that the defense and Sean Payton is going to be enough to put Bo in a position where he can do something crazy to either win or lose by a narrow margin. But I think the Broncos are for real. I think they're going to stick around. Think about this game, the Broncos season. Besides the Bengals Monday night game, Jake Browning, when they could not move the ball and they absolutely killed the Bengals. Yeah. every single game that they've played besides that game could it was like a true coin flip even the titans week one remember that game yeah like the titans if they didn't just completely implode they only lost by eight they were the titans were up i think at the end or they were like it's a one-point game in the fourth quarter the broncos just played the ultimate coin flip games it's just which side is the coin going to flip to today yeah so they're a fun team Very fun team to watch and just very chaotic.

2:26:25Yeah, if you're doing the chart of chaotic bad, chaotic neutral, I think chaotic good. Yeah. Yeah, I couldn't believe that game. It was fucking nuts. Were you guys – I mean, I think I'm a Bo believer, but there's also – A Bo lever? Yeah, there's like three quarters today where he looked terrible. Yeah, this is why – you got to work hard to believe. It's crazy. I am. I consider myself a believer. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm doing mix on it. I believe in the Broncos, but I just, I'm also very scared of them, if that makes sense. Yeah. In, like, not I'm scared of how good they are. I'm scared of, like, what they could do to themselves.

2:27:09Like, you don't know if they got the gun pointed at their own head or someone else. Max, were you rooting for the Giants to beat the Broncos as retribution, or were you rooting for the NFC East to lose? I was rooting for the NFC East to lose, for sure. Okay. Yeah. Without question. Oh, yeah, because the Giants beat you. Yeah. Yeah, have to. Have to. I don't, yeah. The Broncos are crazy. They're fucking crazy, man. They are crazy. They're just like. They're wild running. They're messy bitches. You would say. The Broncos are the messiest bitches we got in the NFL. But they're fun. They're so fun.

2:27:42They're fun. They'll remember them. Fuck you crazy, and then they'll freak out about a text message and get in a fight with you at a bar for the entire night and ruin your entire night. Yep, you'll leave them, and then 20 years later, you'll think back about this Broncos team, and you'll smile because they rock your world. They'll give you the best time of your life, and they'll be like, were you fucking looking at her? What the fuck? Yep. And then just ruin the whole vacation. You're never going to tell your future team that you one time, one year, had a fling with this Broncos team. Yeah. You're going to leave that off your body count.

2:28:21You'll be at a hotel getting your key card and say thank you to the woman behind the desk. And they'll be like, you fucking wanted to hook up with her. Yeah. And that'll be it. That'll be the whole weekend. We'll be gone. That's the Broncos. They're fun. They're so fun. Messy is all hell, though. Bad drunks. okay let's do a couple more ads and then we got Sunday Night Football talk a little baseball and who's back and we'll get out of here the rest of the show is gonna be brought to you by Pepsi because food deserves Pepsi it makes your food taste better Max made a big plate of nachos tonight they were delicious nachos and I washed them down with wild cherry Pepsi what a great meal Pepsi makes all the flavors pop shout out Pepsi the best soda that you can have I love Pepsi we love Pepsi.

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2:30:31This season just went to shit. This year, guess what? Everyone got injured again. But they're 5-2. Because they still have Christian McCaffrey. They have Christian McCaffrey. He was awesome tonight. Were those their two first touchdowns by a running back this season? Or did Christian get one running last week? I think he got one last week, yeah. Yeah, but they're using them, and they know that they're hurt. But as long as they still have that guy and Trent Williams leading the way for them, they'll be okay. Okay, tonight was also National Running Back Day. Oh. Did you know that? No. They waited until like the fourth quarter, and then they said, yeah, it's National Running Back Day.

2:31:08That's extremely disrespectful to running backs to wait to announce that until the very, very end. Yeah, I didn't know we had a National Running Back Day. It feels like, yeah, this is – Running backs have gone through enough recently with their contracts, the Zoom call that they jumped on, and they were like, yeah, this sucks to be running back. You could have given us like at least a couple days heads up that it was National Running Back aware to stay. Yeah. I think for – so the Niners are good. And, like, Mac Jones is playing well. Chris McCaffrey, they're going to get healthier. The fact they're 5-2 and holding us all together, it's impressive.

2:31:43I think I'm just on a strict – maybe someone can remind me this. I'm on a strict every other game with the Falcons. So I'm just going to – if they have a big win, you have to go against them the next game. When they lose, you go on them the next game. I'm going to switch back and forth with the Falcons for the rest of the season. I think that's a pretty fair thing to do. That means that next week, though, you've got to be back on them. Yeah. Yeah. They're playing the Dolphins. They're going to kill the Dolphins. You should have been off. They're going to murder the Dolphins. And then at the Patriots, that's a loss.

2:32:14That's a loss. But then guess what? They're playing home against the Colts in a primetime game. That's going to be a shock to the world. Wow, the Falcons are really good. That might be the Colts' second loss of the season. Holy shit. Look at the Falcons. Yeah, I could see that happening. Doesn't it feel like the Falcons are just destined to be that team where it's like if they have a big win, just expect them to fall flat on their face the next week because this was not a good game for them. And Michael Penix did not look comfortable. Kyle Pitts did look good, so that's a plus. But until the Falcons can string a few together, I'm not going to be in the trust them category.

2:32:49Yeah, the way that the Niners use McCaffrey tonight, that's exactly how the Falcons should be using Bajon every single week. just that that was the game script right there just feed them a steady diet of bajan and hope that things work out well put the ball in the hands of the guy who's the best player in the world with the ball in his hands yeah facts yeah they've won uh they lost their first game won their second game because they went yeah they lost the bucks it was like oh same old falcons even though it was close game then they dominated the vikings on national television that sunday night game then they got dominated by the panthers then they beat the commanders that was with mariota though i think they had a bye week then they came back and and won obviously against the bills last week and everyone's like i myself included was like i think the falcons are for real and then they fall on their face in prime time against the niners well you know what as bad as the falcons looked at times they were they're not that far away even in the ugly game No.

2:33:47They had two fourth downs. Well, the Panthers game was bad. Yeah, but in this game, I mean, they had two fourth downs they got stopped on, probably made the difference in the game. They had a terrible offensive script and game plan, and you only lost by 10. Yeah, it just felt like they never had a good flow except for, I think they had one drive. It was that drive in the third quarter when they came out, I guess, Hank, they are the third quarter Falcons. That third quarter drive looked good. Every other drive just didn't look like they – just a lot of third and longs and a lot of like you know dumb penalties that would put him back so yeah that's i think that's my strategy for the falcons yeah not the worst loss that you could have had it sucked if you're a falcons fan this is one that you were like okay if we win this then then people have to respect us i don't i don't think people have to respect the falcons right that was my fault i already respect you respect him too fast i went too fast on respecting him should we talk a little baseball real quick?

2:34:42Because Friday night, Shohei Otani submitted the greatest game a baseball player has ever played. I think that's, I know that we live in a day and age where people will say whatever recently happened is the greatest thing ever. And we live in a day and age where hyperbole is King. I feel very comfortable saying that Shohei Otani hitting three home runs, pitching six shutout innings with 10 Ks in an elimination game. game was the greatest single game performance i've ever seen a baseball player play yeah i think so it's insane it's basically the plot line of that movie the natural yeah where what's his name found brennan frazier was like this guy just broke baseball except this was real life and otani you can't make an argument against that you can't like it's he had the perfect it's like doing two perfect games yeah on either side of it and it might be the best game an athlete has ever played Max, you're a baseball guy.

2:35:40That was, I mean, it is. That was the best game I've ever watched. Anyone trying to say anything otherwise is like an idiot. Because you could point out like someone pitching a perfect game or someone hitting four home runs, but they didn't do both. And I obviously didn't pitch a perfect game, but he hit two hits, 10 Ks in six innings pitched and hit three bombs. Absolute nukes. Absolutely fucked on. Pissed on him. Those balls were destroyed. He fucking bent those over and fucked them. That's what he did to those balls. I think it was the best game in the history of sports. It might have been.

2:36:14But name a different athlete. Doesn't matter what sport.

2:36:22I mean, you can't. I don't know. I don't think you can. I'm thinking about... I have a question. Yeah. Hank. Travis Hunter. Do you take that back? Do you take that back?

2:36:36Yeah. He's trying to remember what he said. No, I know what I said. No, I know what I said. I'm trying to think of... Remind the listeners what you said. I just said, you know, what Travis Hunter is doing might be more impressive than Shohei. As of right now, that was wrong. Yeah. I think for Travis Hunter... Big of you to say that. If he makes the Super Bowl and, you know, maybe gets two interceptions and two picks, you might have to revisit it. Two interceptions and two picks. I mean, two interceptions and two touchdowns. I think he would have to be better than that. I think for Travis Hunter to have the football equivalent of this game, I think he would have to have...

2:37:11What about a pick six? He would have to have two pick sixes and three receiving touchdowns and 200 yards receiving. There's nothing he could do. Maybe even three pick sixes, three receiving touchdowns. Yeah, no, yeah. Shoya, I mean, it's unbelievable what he did. In fact, Shoya Otani is so good, I think it's insulting to him if we don't ask if he's doing steroids. That's how good that game was. He's so much better than everybody else on the field at two positions. We have to be like, this guy has to be cheating. Baseball's been played for 120 years, whatever the fuck, however far back you want to go.

2:38:02They've been playing it forever. There have been 12 times in the history of baseball that a player has hit three home runs in a playoff game. Shohei Otani also pitched six scoreless innings with 10 strikeouts. It's fucking unfathomable. He was hitting like 120 going into this game, and he won NLCS MVP, and everyone was like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got to give it to him. Because of that game. He was dog shit going into this game. and they were like yeah that was so insane it is the perfectest game and the Dodgers were I think I'm gonna I think well actually I want to say something about the Brewers the Brewers are fucking sad sack losers pieces of shit they didn't even have a fight they didn't fight they had nothing they had the lowest batting average ever in a series they had 118 they hit lowest OPS Fewest.

2:39:00They had 14 hits in the whole series. How many runs did they end up scoring? They have like four runs in the entire series. Four runs. Four runs. They scored exactly one run in every year. Four runs. Worst four-game stretch ever in Brewers history, regular or postseason. Yeah, it's just like they broke every record. They just didn't even – they had nothing. The Dodgers just steamrolled them. And I know the Dodgers are really, really good, but still, they steamrolled them. The Dodgers also got their rotation back to a good spot. Yeah, they did. They shit-pumped them. The Dodgers are just the best teams in baseball.

2:39:36So I'm wondering, like, I want to phrase this correctly because obviously I'd feel differently if the Cubs had lost to the Dodgers. And the Cubs, look, Cubs could have got lost just like the Brewers. I know it's loser talk because the Brewers beat the Cubs, and every Brewers fan could say, hey, we beat the Cubs. But that was an uncompetitive series start to finish. I think we can all agree on that. I'm getting close to the point where it's like, do I need to just go along for the ride and just not root for the Dodgers, but respect the fuck out of their greatness? Oh, I already do. And not be bitter about it.

2:40:10I hope they don't win. I'm going to be rooting against the Dodgers. But, yes, they are that good. The crazy thing about them is, with Otani, they can be dominant, but also at the same time be extremely fun because you get a guy doing something that has never even really been thought of before. Like a game like this will stand for the next like hundred years in baseball. Yeah. Yeah. Max, what are you going to say? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. What? I was going to say I want them to smoke whoever in the World Series just so that I can say the Phillies were the second best team. Yeah. The closest. That was a real World Series.

2:40:48Yeah. Yeah. People are saying that was real. Yeah. If you only. What if they sweep the World Series? And you're like, we were the only team that beat them in the playoffs. And we had a better run differential. Oh, wow. That's huge. That's what we talk about. No, like the Dodgers, I'm done complaining about how they've ruined baseball because, again, it's jealousy. Like, everyone should want an owner who's willing to pay. And they do it the right way where they pay and they make guys happy and, like, their team, you know what I mean? Like, they pay. So what? I want to pay. I'd also like to pay I'd like to see Otani do it from the right side of the plate That's next Become a switch hitter That was insane Best day I think ever for any athlete In any game Maybe just the best day anyone's ever had Dolly Parton wrote two hit songs Jolene and I will always love you on the same day That was a good day This was better I know I was a little harsh on the Brewers And I'm partially coping But if you can't even survive an entire calendar week after you eliminate the Cubs, you weren't even in the next round.

2:42:02They got two drunks. They were gone on Friday. They eliminated the Cubs on Saturday. They were gone on Friday. That's crazy. And it was nothing. It was not even a second. Yeah. Yeah. But the Blue Jays-Mariner series has been great. Back and forth. Also, the Brewers are going to try to... Like, this is what – the Brewers, you can't complain about not spending money and then have your owner be like, hey, we might trade Freddie Peralta because we owe him$9.8 million next year. And we control him for one more year. Like, just all owners. I think my brain has shifted where it's like, I'm sick of complaining about the Dodgers.

2:42:39We should be complaining about the Pirates owner and the Reds owner and the Rockies owner and all these owners that don't want to spend a dollar. That's who should get the blame. Yeah. Not the Dodgers. Yeah. right Dodgers are they're being smart right like everyone else who's making money and not spending it you're the ones who should be pointed at not the Dodgers for spending money yeah they're in a big market yeah they make more money I get that but still like if you're if you're a Pirates fan you shouldn't be mad at the Dodgers you should be mad at your owner I'm mad at the Cubs I'm mad at Tom Ricketts for not spending more money and guess what all the owners that say that we're losing money and that that's why we can't spend on shit ask them one simple question will you please open up your book so that we can verify that you're losing and they they will never do it because they're not losing money in fact the valuation of their teams alone correct is making them a shitload of money year over year if you're losing money sell your team yeah it's so simple and they won't just sell your team you want to know why they'll make a lot of money if you sell your team you want to know why they're not going to sell their team yeah because they're making money they're making money yeah yeah so i i something where i'm just like i'm done i'm done complaining about it I mean, we were doing the thing where we take too much heat off of the actual bad actors, the owners that are not spending any money and put it on the Dodgers when it should be.

2:43:55Yes, the Dodgers are spending a lot of money. And yes, it sucks if they win every single World Series. But the real problem is all these fucking losers that are not spending enough money and making money hand over fist. And I put Tom Ricketts in that category. So I'm in I'm in the category of blame your owner, not the Dodgers. You know what's crazy is for as much money as they paid Shohei with that contract, he's making the money. Like, that's a good investment. No, I think they already made the money back, he said. What he did, that is an awesome payoff for your huge investment that you made.

2:44:25Correct. The only downside to it is, like, I don't know where he can go from there. Yeah. Like, we probably just saw Shohei Otani peak. Also, if you're even having wavering about what I just said, think about this. the fucking angels who are such like pieces of shit had Shohei and Mike Trout and they didn't make the playoffs and Rendon yeah they paid Rendon too I mean but like that tells you that like don't be mad that the Dodgers are just doing it better than everyone else yeah the Blue Jays Mariners game 7 is gonna rock this whole series has just been back and forth back and forth the game on Friday night was incredible the grand slam maybe the best moment in Mariners history Incredible.

2:45:05I would say that that's probably number one. Maybe the – probably the clinching game against the Yankees in the ALDS in 95 when Randy Johnson came in and then Edgar Martinez. I mean, this is going to – That one was sick, though. This has to be up there. To go to the ALCS. But, yeah, that was an awesome moment. I'm just going to sit back and watch and enjoy the fuck out of baseball. Yeah. Game seven. Like, it's going to be awesome. Mm-hmm. Max, who do you have? But you're – My buddy had a bad night. Tough, tough, tough Friday night. I like that Max can't escape baseball even though the Phillies are out.

2:45:42He just texted us on Friday night. He's like, yeah, that was my boy who gave up that home run to Cal Raleigh. It was bad. Yeah, and he's like, I'm getting a bunch of tweets blaming me. Max, what did you think about Springer standing strong in the box and taking that pitch off the knee? Love that. That's what I'm talking about. The replay of that that was mic'd up, It sounded like a double to the gap off of his kneecap. Love it. By the way, I did some math because I wanted to make sure that I wasn't talking out of my ass about me getting hit by pitches a lot. There's 150 ABs that I can access right now.

2:46:17Like from my college career, I got hit in 6 % of ABs. The leader of all time in MLB history, some guy from the 1800s, and he got hit in 5 % of at-bats. That's pretty good. So I stand by my shit. I stand by my shit. You're the greatest to ever do it. PFT, you want to ask the follow-up that you asked when you told us this? Yeah, Max, do you think that has anything to do with the square foot? Yeah, the surface area. There's been some big ball players out there. I mean, there's a reason Jose Altuve isn't leading the league in hit by pitch. He probably gets hit by a pitch more. He actually does get hit by a pitch.

2:46:52Yeah, he probably does. But for the purpose of this joke, if he was your size. He would get hit by a lot more. A lot more. You got your own gravitational pull on some of these. Fuck yeah. Once they get close to your orbit. Yeah. The ball just gets sucked in like a planet getting absorbed by the sun. I'm happy we're getting a game seven. And, you know, again, the Dodgers are sweet, but we got to see incredible moments. Mostly Shohei and the rest of their pitching. So who do you guys have in game seven? I got to go with my M's. Yeah, I think I'm rooting for the Mariners. Someone pick the Blue Jays so that way.

2:47:27Toronto Blue Jays. Okay, there you go. Yeah, your boy. Yeah, he's going to come back. He might not pitch again. Throw him back out there. Yeah, throw him back out there. I think Big Dumper's about to have a game. Poop-poop. He's going to go poop-poop. Big Dumper going to go poop-poop. Shane Bieber on the bump. He's in that fantasy league. I should send him a trade request right before. No chance he would look. If he accepted it. If he accepted it. actually the funniest thing would be if he if you send him that before the game he went out there and lost and then like five minutes after the game accepted it accepted it like fuck i'll just do it yeah i should actually send him like an insane trade request that's good for him so he has to yeah he'll be thinking about it yeah and then pull it back uh all right let's finish up with who's back of the week it is brought to you by our friends at twisted tea who's back we is sponsored by Twisted Tea.

2:48:23Twisted Tea is a refreshing hard ice tea made with real brewed tea and 5 % alcohol. Twisted Tea is the perfect alcohol beverage to keep the good times going all season long, whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar, or just seeing where the day takes you. Twisted Tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time, a great time. Keep it twisted. Grab a tea. It's game time. Stock up on ice cold Twisted Tea today. hey Hank who's back of the week are thieves oh okay they got the Louvre what there's a heist there was a heist I missed this dude what happened I love a good heist they broke into the Louvre which I would have to imagine like if you're a thief like that's you know it's number one number one boring place to go I agree and they got a bunch of like what do you call them jewels that yeah you can't put a price on them crown jewels Did they get the Mona Lisa?

2:49:19They did not get the Mona Lisa. Of course, yeah, because it's overrated. But yeah, it's one of those things where you think with technology and everything, just getting taken online and AI taking people's jobs. It's kind of like how thieves and burglaries. Yeah. Kind of old hat. I agree. But it's good to know that there's still thieves that are planning heists, especially at the Louvre, and making it happen. Yeah, real old school. Like throwback type shit. Yeah, like I don't condone thieving. I condone robbing the loo. I condone heists. If you've got like a guy in the truck that's outside, if you've got like a crew that you have to assemble, and they've all got like different skills.

2:50:01And code names. And code names. I condone that, yes. And a bunch of them kill each other after. Afterwards, yeah. Yes, there's only one standing. One guy's like, I thought we weren't going to do any violence. Yeah. One guy shows up in a new Cadillac and says, take it back. Yeah. Take it back. No, they say, yeah, armed with power tools, a crane lift, and a ladder. That's badass. I expected the Louvre to have better security than that. That's what I'm saying. Is the Louvre washed? Yeah, I think the Louvre really overrated. Way overrated. Yeah, they got some crowns. They got Napoleon's wife's crown.

2:50:42They left it behind. Oh, shit. Oh, they left it behind? It fell out when they were running. Ha! That's awesome. See? I don't like that. No, they might have left it like a... Okay, because I don't want sloppy thieves. I like if they were able to just bang, bang. They did it in seven minutes. I'm looking it up right now. But then you get to imagine, like they met up at the hotel room later. They're looking at their loot, and then one guy's like, hey, where's Napoleon's wife's crown? He's like, oh, it must have fallen out of the suitcase. You got sloppy. Yeah. Frank, what the fuck did you do? Okay, I'm in for this.

2:51:15No, I like this a lot. It happened at 9.30 on Sunday morning. That's crazy. People were watching football. Yep. I know football wasn't on then. Time zones. They probably had soccer. A Hawaii game, maybe. Yeah. They were experienced thieves that broke into the gallery with a disc cutter. No duh. No duh. Now, where do you go? If you rob the Louvre, where do you go to sell that shit? There's black market. Yeah. Sicily. Yeah, for sure. Maybe Amsterdam? No, some billionaire is going to buy it. Some Russian oligarch is going to buy that shit. For sure. Listen, I wanted this collection, but I really needed Napoleon's wife's crown.

2:51:54Yeah. It's just incomplete now. I've got Napoleon's facial hair. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty much the same thing. Macron said, we will recover the works and the perpetrators will be brought to justice. Everything is being done everywhere to achieve this. Yeah, right, dude. You ain't finding them. What if he was in a perfect crime? It was him and his wife. I saw a news report where a bunch of old people mad that they went to go see the Mona Lisa, but it was closed for the day. Wow. If I planned to go to the Louvre this day and it was closed because of a heist, I would tip my cap. Yeah. Say, that rocks.

2:52:29Wow. I love this, Hank. These are back, yeah. You know what? If France still had it, they would just organize and get like 100 people to go to the police station tomorrow morning and turn themselves in and be like, I'm the thief. He's just sweet of the thief. Yeah. It would be way cooler to say that you were at the Louvre the day that it got heisted. Yeah. Then you were just like randomly saw fucking Mona Lisa. Who gives a fuck about Mona Lisa? Yeah, this crane is cool. I love this. All right. We should do a heist. Yeah, we should. Oh, steal the bean. Dude, I think we've talked about this before.

2:53:02Put it in the gym. Now we need the minions for that. Yeah. We've talked about this before, but it would be so badass. I don't think they can do this legally, but like they have escape rooms. Just simulate bank robberies. Yeah. Like how fun would that be? Like, what are you doing Friday night? We're going to go fake robbing robberies though. You need muscle. No, no, you don't. I like, I like, I like museum and like art. I like this type of this out. But how sick robberies, every movie in a bank robbery, then someone shoot someone by accident and then you're fucked. Yeah, but you got to get in. You got to like, you get one battle after another.

2:53:38You get like fake cap guns or something or whatever they can do. Paintball guns. And it's like, hey, you got to rob this. How fun would that be? It would be a blast. Yeah. Just simulate those. They trick it. You got to have somebody on the inside if you're robbing a bank. Yeah, you do. You always got to have someone on the inside. They definitely had someone on the inside. Definitely. Okay. Good. Who's back. I love that heist. My who's back of the week is a shout out. Max and memes podcast producers. Oh, podcast. Podcast producers are back big time this weekend. I don't know if you guys saw Pablo Torre finds out on Friday, but he dropped a new episode.

2:54:17Yes. I mean, I know guys like Hank were saying, hey, Pablo only goes after Bill. He only goes after Jordan. But this episode just made me realize what a great producer Jordan is. It's like working overtime. She knows Adobe Photoshop. And I don't think I've ever heard Hank say. Wait, what is it? Adobe Photoshop. Okay. Okay. And that's a word. Not just Photoshop? Adobe Photoshop. I'd never heard Hank talk about that before. I'd never heard Max talk about it. I'd never heard memes talk about it. But it's editing software that you can use to make graphics. And so Jordan, when she was helping to produce the Coach's Podcast, the Matt Patricia and Bill Belichick, was being very helpful, saying, hey, this font could be better.

2:54:58It should be leathery. It should look like football. Maybe we can do this so it's animated and then we'll be able to reuse it. And it was just really a master class in Jordan being Jordan Helping her boy out Really being a five tool girlfriend She's a girl boss And Pablo's coming off as a little misogynistic Oh for not thinking that Jordan would know what Adobe Photoshop was Yeah I mean Like how is that the big news Yeah Of course she knows Adobe Photoshop It was very funny She could screenshot clip it Boom Now you got a graphic It was very funny watching the actual producer of the podcast just put his head down when she was explaining what they should be doing.

2:55:38Yeah. Kind of felt bad for that guy. It's also very funny that Pablo came on this show and explained that he does a mix of the somewhat boring things where he's looking into the clippers and what they're doing. And then these things with Jordan that get a lot of clicks. And he's like, yeah, I got to do both. but every time he posted Jordan clip everyone's like you're just you're such a this bullshit this whole podcast is bullshit it's like he told you he's gonna do both and I think it's a pretty good podcast Hank doesn't agree Hank I was actually getting mad about people getting mad at you for your reply because your reply was funny saying that he needs to look into the Jared Goff touchdown yeah he does he needs to he needs to focus on other things like Jared Goff touchdown yeah like if If Pablo Torre had bet Jared Goff first touchdown scorer, the NFL would be shaking in their boots.

2:56:32I can't do anything. But Pablo can. Pablo can. Do it for Hank, Pablo. Or Pablo. How about this? How about you just teach Hank how to do investigative journalism? And so then Hank can look into these things on his own. Now that's a podcast I would listen to. Yeah. Pablo finds out how dumb Hank is. I think that'd be a great podcast. mean he's like your mentor and like whatever you want to look into he will teach you how to submit like a freedom of information act request i like pablo that would be that would be fun that would be fun we should do that hank goes to school we do need a capital j journalist on this podcast

2:57:14Oh, Hank's thinking. No, I like Pablo. I like Pablo. What are you going to say? I like Pablo. But? I like Pablo. But? No, I like him. Are you?

2:57:31Hank, are you afraid that if he teaches you how to dig too deep into stuff, you're going to uncover some things that you don't want to know? No. Absolutely not. No, no. No. Yeah, no. I do, like, if you're an underdog, like, who's leaking that? That's a problem. Huge problem. Huge, huge problem. It was probably the guy in that clip. You can't have that. You can't have the clips just getting leaked out. Hot mic clips. Yeah, I think, you know who comes out looking? What? Now you got a new show idea. No, no, no. You're going to send some stuff to Pablo. God, no. I thought that there's one person that came out of this looking great Jordan Patricia Yeah Jordan and Patricia Yeah Patricia I didn't know that he had that type of patience He just sat there and was just like I'm just gonna deal with this My boy's getting some primo pussy I just gotta fucking chill out Just take it We've all been in that spot Like look he's happy I'm happy I'm not gonna break him up What are you gonna do It's the first time getting some primo what are you going to do?

2:58:41It's got to be driving him nuts. Bill's got to just love it. I actually think Bill might still be extremely happy. Even given the state of Carolina football right now, I think he's having the time of his life. He probably doesn't even know that this guy. Probably someone said, like, hey, Bill, a hot mic came out. He's like, all right. Yeah. I think he's punching that clock. He's going to stop me getting Primo? Just getting his world rocked.

2:59:10Any thoughts? No.

2:59:15Patricia's happy, too. He's at Ohio State having the time of his life. Yeah. Patricia's probably a much better spot. He's got a great job. Matt Patricia probably wakes up every day reading stories about UNC being like, that was close. Yeah, holy shit. I'm on the best team in the country. Yeah. Or the best defense. Yeah, I get to just be the defensive coordinator of a loaded roster. Yeah. That's sick. Pretty good. Yeah. All right. My Who's Back of the Week is fired coaches because Billy Napier got fired. And I actually think so. He got$9.7 million right away within 30 days. I think his whole buyout is like$18.

2:59:53Okay. I think we need to start doing this more often where if you're going to fire your coach, let him go out with a win. Because he won on Saturday night. He beat Mississippi State. They still fired him. That's kind of a nice way to go out. Yeah, if possible. Yeah. And also we had fire coaches James Franklin going on game day, which I that was genius for him because he basically just had Saban carry the water for him. Just being like it's insane and disrespectful what they do to coaches now. Yeah. I saw some people being like, why is he doing this? Like, what do you think? Why? Why wouldn't he do this?

3:00:25He basically gets to go on national television and Nick Saban gets to say everything that James Franklin wants to say, but won't say while James Franklin is sitting there nodding along. Yeah, I mean, at the end of his tenure, James Franklin could be like, I was wildly successful here. Yeah. And then things kind of fell apart at the last second. Yeah. Yeah. And we'll see who else gets fired. I don't know what Wisconsin is going to do. We're just going to keep getting our teeth kicked in. Did you guys see the Oregon Duck jerseys? They're so awesome. Yeah. They're so awesome. Zach, your Who's Back of the Week.

3:00:58My Who's Back of the Week this week is going to be Manly's number one food review podcast, MD Foodie Boys. Yep. Indie Foodie Boys. Puberty. Got it parodied on SNL. Yeah. It was pretty funny. Sweet look. Yeah, the skit itself was actually funny as well. Yeah. Those guys rock. Yeah, they rock. Good look. Sabrina Carpenter was in the skit. I thought she was really good. She was fantastic. Yeah. Did you see the performance as well on SNL or just the skits? No, I just saw the mirror scene. Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah. What mirror scene? Great look for that. She was like dancing in the mirror or something.

3:01:29Yeah. What song? I don't know what song it was. I forget the name of the song. Didn't have the sound on. But she was great. She was a great actress. Yeah, the MD Foodie Boys are up. Way up. Way up. Good who's back, Zach. Excited for the Bucs game? Give us a prediction. I'm looking forward to the game. Prediction, early prediction for the game without them playing any plays is going to be Buccaneers win in Detroit. Okay. Lions are pretty banged up secondary-wise. And Brian Branch is out for one-game suspension? One-game suspension. Yep. And Seahawks-Texans should be – I actually think that game is going to be kind of a slog.

3:02:08But, like, not that they're bad teams. I think it should be a defensive battle. I think I'm going to opt into sports tomorrow. Let's go, Bax. On a Monday. Yeah, no, it's good sports. Bonus sports. Really good sports tonight tomorrow night. It's going to be a great sports. One of these two football games is going to be great. And game seven. And game seven. And game seven. Pray for anyone who doesn't have either YouTube TV or multiple TVs. What, you don't have YouTube TV? Hank, are you still giving me that TV you said you were going to give me? Yeah. Tomorrow? No. Not tomorrow, but one of these days.

3:02:41You weren't asking for tomorrow, though. He wants it for tomorrow. Tomorrow would have been nice. Yeah, tomorrow would have been clutch. Actually, can you make it happen tomorrow? Maybe. 10 % chance. I'll take it. That's better than zero. There's a lot of sports on tomorrow. I'll get whatever. What would you say the percentage is if you had to do numbers? I said 10%. Three. There you go, memes. Oh, memes. There you go, memes. Memes is going to win it today. Let's go, Memes. Islanders versus Sharks tomorrow, too. Great game. Huge. Sharks coach said he was going to give up his kid for a win. I like that.

3:03:13Okay. That's how bad they are. He must hate his kid. Yeah. That was all the players back. I guess I got to go 10. So, you're going to be 333 or 88 today. I'll go 4. I'm going to go 15. 8. 88. 99. Pug. Is it 80? You're going to go 8. Four. Wait, what? What did Jack say? Jack said four. I said four. Jack. He just wants to repeat numbers. He can't hear. Oh, he can't hear.

3:03:4832.

3:03:52You want to do one more? Yeah. Everyone say their number so that we have it on record. 22. Three. 33. Eight. 44. 86. 15. Four. Memes, this one I think you're going to get. I really do. I think it's going to be three. I think it's going to be three. I would love for you to get it right now. It could be three. Pug thinks it's going to be 83. I think it's going to be 18. Oh! Oh, Puggy! 99 Pug! Let's go, Pug! This guy. How many is that, Pug? I think that's seven now. Dynasty. Hey, Pug, give us one of these. Pug, yeah, show it to us. You got rings everywhere, bro. You and Shane, ring boys. Holy fuck.

3:04:46There we go. That was crazy. Seven. It's been a while. It's good to be back. How long has it been? Feels like forever. Yeah, it's been. I was on a hot streak, but there was a big gap for sure. Damn. Memes, why don't you just start taking 99? I tried that. You guys cried. No. You guys cried. Yeah, we might have. Oh, you haven't won since, oh, like a year. No, that can't be right. You haven't won in a year, Pug? I feel like he's won recently. It has been a while. Oh, shit. Yeah. Wow, Pug. You had a streak of, a cold streak going. Yeah, I know. It was good for you, dude. It's good to be back. It's good to be back.

3:05:24It's huge. Wow, Pug. Is that the longest losing streak anyone's ever had on the show? No. Over a year? I don't know. What was Hank's? That's probably not because memes hasn't gotten it yet. Ah, shit. How close is he still far away from Hank?

3:05:46How far away is memes from Hank? I'm actually afraid of memes right now. Why? Because there's an electric podcast segment. People love it. Come on. do you Max doesn't know how to work this way no not even close if you want 99 he's not even looking at anything relative to the question trackers trackers maybe tracker go up to tracker

3:06:20his headphones aren't on no his headphones aren't on he's lost right now this is you Lander going through We know We've been talking about you the whole time You're not even close to looking at the right places I gave Pug my headphones I have no idea what you're saying But you still We're looking to see how long How close is memes to catching Hank Oh yeah it's right here I couldn't hear you Memes will tie Hank's record Oh wow He's got a tracker for Can we get a clock up? Yeah, we have to get a clock. 263 days. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Memes, we got to get you this. He'll get it. He will get it. That's so long, Memes.

3:07:08Think about that. Memes, when would you get nervous? I don't know. Okay. 100? 100 days?

3:07:19You'll get it. Memes, what were you saying about was Pug bitching when you... Oh, yeah. No, you didn't ask permission. What the fuck kind of show is it? You just stole it. If you were like, can I have it? I'm sorry, I didn't ask permission for your lottery ball.

3:07:39I didn't ask to borrow your car.

3:07:44All right, we'll see you on Wednesday. All right, good job, Pug. Congrats. Congrats, Pug. Thank you. Congrats, Pug. All right. Love you guys.

3:07:55Thank you.

3:08:26Thank you.

3:08:57Thank you.

3:09:25Thank you.

3:09:54Thank you.

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