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14:41PFT Commenter:Six games, right? Yeah. Auto-drafted him in fantasy. It kills me every week.

14:45Big Cat:Oh, no. No, Hank. That's the worst thing Rasheed Rice has ever done.

14:49PFT Commenter:For any one of those free Rice shirts. Yeah. So here's the Chiefs' schedule because it is hard. They're going to have to win some games late in the season because they have the Ravens this Sunday. Then they're at the Jaguars. Not an easy game. Nope. The Lions at home. Nope. The Raiders at home. Yep. The Commanders at home. Nope. At the Bills, at the Broncos. Nope. That's not easy.

15:17Big Cat:Maybe. Yeah. But once they get rice, Hank. Once Hank gets rice. What was that? You don't think you can beat the Chiefs? I don't want to say it out loud. Believe. I don't want to say it out loud. Believe. I've got – there's some Commanders fans that are very upset with me for not being more of a homer for the Commanders right now. Yeah. But that's just how I feel. To go into Kansas City on a Monday night and win is going to be really hard. You play scared. It's going to be really hard. I do play scared. I'm scared. I'm a scared little boy. You're not playing to win. When it comes to my football watching and viewing experience, I am a scared, frightened little boy and a child at heart thinking that all the worst things are going to happen to me.

15:54Big Cat:It's going to take years of therapy. I'll tell you you got hurt. It's going to take years of, well, no, Hank, I was pretending to be hurt. You thought I was actually hurt.

16:02PFT Commenter:No. Gotcha, bitch. No. the Ravens are playing the Chiefs then they're at home against the Texans Rams and Bears so that feels like probably a two and one right Texans Rams Bears all at home Bears yeah we're not going to beat the Ravens and then at the Dolphins at the Vikings at the Browns so I would say the Ravens if they go one and three have a better chance yep

16:26Big Cat:okay that's fair I just do think that the Chiefs are going to get better they're not going to be this but although there was a did you see the clip of Andy Reid and Kelsey on the sidelines? Yeah. This time it looked like Andy Reid kind of initiated it. Yeah. Like if you were to take what happened in the Super Bowl and reverse it, Reid got in his face and kind of belly titty bumped him a little bit. I think he hit him with his tit.

16:47PFT Commenter:I was talking about a video of Mahomes throwing an absolute duck and then a clip from two years ago of him throwing an absolute bomb. Mahomes doesn't look... I mean, it's okay to say he gets all benefit of the doubt from what he's done in his career, but in terms of the last year and a half. Because remember, last year, it's not like the Chiefs were killing teams. They had some very, very close games. Also got mollywhopped in the Super Bowl. Yeah, he doesn't look – it's not the same it looked three, four years ago. That's a fair statement to say. It's like ever since Riola started to take all his shit.

17:22PFT Commenter:Yeah.

17:23Big Cat:It was like a monster situation.

17:26PFT Commenter:Stealing his powers. And then in terms of news, we have Russ, it feels like it's done. Dable said they're evaluating everything. And then the media tried to hold him to it. It was like, so quarterback, he's like, we're evaluating everything.

17:41Big Cat:That's what you got to do as a coach that hasn't competed, really. You got to say every position is up for grabs. We're going to look at all the tape. We're going to bring in the basketball team to try out.

17:50PFT Commenter:No job is safe, including mine. And then the other one, you guys, commanders, are going to play the Falcons. The Falcons are already shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. We've talked about this many times before, but the sign that things are a problem is whenever you move a coordinator from the booth to the field or from the field to the booth, and they've done that after three weeks. Zach Robinson, their OC, is going down to the field.

18:14Big Cat:Yeah, they fired Ike Hilliard, their receivers coach, and then they moved Zach Robinson down onto the field, which it is a sure sign. And they're going to start asking him to – he's on a pip right now. Yeah. Zach Robbins is clearly on a pip. They're going to start giving him assignments that are just impossible and really have nothing to do with his job just to keep him busy so that other people can actually do his job for him. Yeah. It's not looking great. Hey, this is what you get when you get a pro football focus guy. You get a data guy.

18:44PFT Commenter:Get a data guy. And then he's – yeah, so Memes, credit to you. You had that take on Sunday.

18:51Big Cat:Credit to me. Credit to you.

18:52PFT Commenter:Credit to Memes. also I saw a crazy stat about I think it was the Vikings I think the Vikings have played I think the Vikings defense has been I gotta try to find it but it was some crazy like the Vikings defense has played so much better than anyone else in the NFL under Brian Flores so credit to Brian Flores he doesn't get enough credit he had Jake Browning in a torture chamber I'm gonna try to find the stat I don't have the stat. Also credit to Carson Wentz. Yeah, also credit to Carson Wentz. Big time. Big time credit to Carson Wentz. Piece of shit. All right, any other cleanup stuff from the NFL on Sunday?

19:36PFT Commenter:We got any cleanup stuff? I'm trying to remember what we need to clean up. Any cleanup stuff? I don't think there's a lot we have to clean up. How are you feeling, memes, with the Jets in terms of Aaron Glenn? That was one of the funniest, most perfect edits done as Aaron Glenn dancing to Earth, Wind, and Fire. Did you see that? I did, yeah. It was so perfectly timed up. It was almost made for that. Jenna Lane did that, yeah. That one hurts.

20:02Big Cat:But it was a cool celebration. I love the celebration. It's like split online. They're like, you know your team's about to blow it because your defense sucks. But what is he supposed to do? It was a fantastic play. Also, for all the screenshot merchants out there, and I'm speaking specifically about Stephen Che mostly, that did the zoom in on whether or not the Bucs center got his foot stepped on on that field goal. Get over it. You guys won. Yeah. You guys won. It was close enough. They protect the centers a lot. Don't worry about it.

20:33PFT Commenter:I couldn't agree more. The lamest thing you could possibly do is argue a call in a win.

20:38Big Cat:Technically, somebody touched our center, and you're not allowed to do that. It's a rule that is questionable at best, and because they violated it on a technicality in the game that you won anyways. Get over it. Get over it. Oh, they should make goalposts 100 feet tall.

20:55PFT Commenter:Yes. There was that kick last night for the Ravens that looked like it wasn't good. Why not?

21:00Big Cat:I think that one was actually in. It was. But there was another one earlier this year. Yeah, just make the goalposts a little bit taller. Titus always says put a crossbar on top. See how square that you have to kick through.

21:11PFT Commenter:That kicker had all-time sourpuss face after he didn't reach the landing zone and then was on the sidelines. He was looking like he was blaming something. He was mad. It was all him, but he had the face of like – Trying to blame someone else. Yeah. He was just like that. That couldn't have been me. Something happened. You're a kicker, dude. The wind blew up or something. Yeah. That was a great kick.

21:32Big Cat:There is one more thing that Jerry Jones said yesterday that I think that we should discuss. us he said that the cowboys will not have a video tribute for micah parsons on sunday oh that's he said it's not appropriate what does that mean do you agree with jerry no you think that they should you think the cowboys should do a tribute video for micah parsons i don't think so i guess with the way it ended we're still waiting for the isaiah thomas tribute video to come out no they did one they did one they got that yeah by the way we gotta we have to establish the criteria

22:07PFT Commenter:for getting Isaiah Thomas definitely deserved one. Micah Parsons, I guess, because the way it ended and it's so fresh. I guess not. Yeah. Oh, here it is. By the way, I have it. This is from Mike Sando. In the 23 Flores era wins, the defense, the Vikings defense has been 20 times more productive than the offense from EPA standpoint. I don't understand what that means, but it seems significant.

22:33Big Cat:Yeah. I mean, it's kind of an insult stat for the offense.

22:36PFT Commenter:Yeah, but also how good their defense.

22:38Big Cat:But also their offense. Like last year, I never once thought that the Vikings offense was ever even a problem. Yeah, but it was. I thought their defense was just that good.

22:47PFT Commenter:Yeah.

22:47Big Cat:Oh, we did have Nick Bosa. He tore his ACL. That fucking sucks. Yeah, that really sucks because Kyle Shanahan said after the game that they didn't think that it was torn.

22:56PFT Commenter:Yeah.

22:56Big Cat:And then they looked at it. Good news, though. I think this is maybe the best ACL tear of all time because I saw everyone that works in NFL media was tweeting out. It was a perfectly clean tear of only the ACL. The other ligaments were not affected. So he's good. So he's got, yeah, they're calling it the greatest ACL tear of all time.

23:15PFT Commenter:The Niners just continue to be the most hurt team every single year. It sucks. They just can't. I don't know what's going on. They just get hurt. All their best players. Maybe the problem for the Niners is don't have so many good players. because if you don't have that many good players and someone gets hurt, it's like, well, he wasn't good anyway. They have too many good players, so the odds are one of their good players is going to get hurt. That's a good point. Right? Like if I was building a team, I'd be like, let's build a team out of like mid players. That way if there's someone injured, we're not like, damn, our season's over.

23:50PFT Commenter:Our best player, one of our best players got hurt.

23:51Big Cat:What if you just started all your second stringers to begin the season? That's a good idea too. And then let them get hurt. Then you're in the best possible next man up situation.

23:59PFT Commenter:Yeah, right. Exactly. But yeah, that sucked that Nick Bosa did that. So I think it's his second time he's torn his ACL. Week two of 2020 versus the Jets. That stinks. That stinks. Okay. Should we talk some college football? Yeah. Before we do that, game time. Can we get the whiteout game? Because I think Hank and Max are going to be there. Yeah, we are. We are. We are going to the whiteout game. Yeah, so the NFL is back and college football tailgates, pack stands, that buzz before kickoff, but getting in a nightmare. Cues, price jumps, getting logged out mid-click. All you want is to be there.

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25:29PFT Commenter:Use code PMT for$20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Again, create an account. Redeem code PMT for$20 off. Swipe, tap, ticket, go. Download the GameTime app today. Hank, is this your first big, like, huge college? Oh, no, you've been to a bunch of college football games. It's his first time. I forgot he went to the SEC.

25:48Big Cat:Yeah, he did a whole tour. Yeah. But it is his first time in the Beaver.

25:51PFT Commenter:It is the first time in the Beaver.

25:53Big Cat:Yeah.

25:53PFT Commenter:Getting that Beaver. The nitty beef. First big, big 10 game, I guess we went to Wisconsin. Yeah. Ohio State. I don't know. I'm excited for the whiteout. This is going to be rocking. This is going to be rocking. This is going to be literally on fire.

26:07Big Cat:I got a question for you guys. Are we counting this as a big game for James Franklin?

26:12PFT Commenter:Yes. A hundred percent. Yes.

26:14Big Cat:This is under the big game. A hundred percent. Capital letter, big game. Is it stealing?

26:19PFT Commenter:I have to wear white, right?

26:20Big Cat:Yes. Yes.

26:21PFT Commenter:You got to get a nice, like, real nice. We'll go shopping Friday when we get there. Yeah. Well, I'm just going to wear – I don't know that I'm going to wear –

26:29Big Cat:I guess I'll count this. I guess I'll rock. I'll bet on Penn State. Technically, I would agree it's a big game for James Franklin. I hate the line. Because if they lose, then Oregon will be a top-five team.

26:39PFT Commenter:No, they are a top-five team. They are a top-five.

26:40Big Cat:I thought they were six.

26:42PFT Commenter:I thought they were four. They already are – I mean, if they're ranked six, they're a top-five team already. This is absolutely a big game for James Franklin. Oregon has beaten the shit out of teams right now. Yeah.

26:57Big Cat:This would count. It's a big game. It's an absolutely big game. It's two teams where we don't really know how good. They both look like they're really, really good, but we don't know shit about either team. They're five in the coaches. Yeah, five in the coaches, six in the AP. Okay.

27:10PFT Commenter:But they're a top five team in my estimation. What were you going to say, Hank? Hasn't Penn State played no one? Yeah. Correct. Oregon's also played no one. Oregon's played no one as well because Oregon. But they've played better teams than Penn State's played. They've both beaten the shit out of no one's. Yes. Yes. Okay. Winners of the weekend, Indiana and Texas Tech. Put everyone on notice. Those two teams. Indiana, what they did to Illinois was not, I wouldn't say shocking. It was just more, holy shit, Indiana might be better than they were last year. And Kurt Signetti, he's a maniac. he finds you know slights anywhere he can I think he was he's still upset about last year in the conversation around Indiana and he's like I'm gonna punish everyone that's exactly yeah there's

27:59Big Cat:gonna be one team that's focused on style points and that's gonna be Indiana yeah they won 63 to 10 he was not happy at halftime either no they did the interview they're like what do you need to do he's like we have to score more points we didn't do a good enough job of scoring points But it was like a very even game in terms of how many points. It was like all four quarters were just chock full of Indiana beating the dog shit out of Illinois. And, yeah, he's a crazy person. Crazy. They talk about him coming from like the Nick Saban coaching tree. And he has a lot of the exact same mannerisms and viewpoints and attitudes that Nick Saban has where he will yell at somebody if they're up 50 to 10 in the fourth quarter and you drop an interception, he will grab you and yell at you and cuss you out.

28:43Big Cat:He's a complete psycho. Psycho. He's a great college football coach. I'm wondering if he's going to get gobbled up by a premier, premier name.

28:53PFT Commenter:Indiana fans would be mad at you for that.

28:55Big Cat:Well, guess what? I had to deal with the conversation for two years, and that's what happens. That's the reality of college football, that if there's going to be a top-level job that ever opens up soon, and there might be some at the very peak, Cignetti's going to be one of the first three guys that you call.

29:11PFT Commenter:Yeah, although he does. I mean, he's got it rolling right now at Indiana. They look really, really good. Mendoza is awesome. He's, I think, the frontrunner for Heisman now. They have Iowa this weekend and then Oregon in a couple weeks. So Texas Tech was the other big winner for the weekend for me. They went into Utah and just demolished Utah, which doesn't happen very often. This is also Texas Tech. They are very open and brazen about the fact that they bought their roster with oil money. Yeah. I actually like the fact that the three guys that I think bought the roster are just always like they're at the press conferences.

29:49PFT Commenter:They're just walking around just like, yeah, we did this.

29:52Big Cat:Yeah. It's so sick. Oil was the original crypto. Yeah. It's like if you can camp out on a spot and you can make a shitload of money in just a few years, you're probably a diehard college football fan if you grow up in Texas. Yeah. So what are you going to do? You're going to reinvest that. If the Stanford nerds that were making money off crypto cared deeply about football, then Stanford beat an elite team, too. Texas Tech was very, very fun. And when you looked at this game on paper, just like the reputations of the teams, it's like Utah, they're the team that will just be more physical. They will hurt you.

30:24Big Cat:They will punish you. And then the reputation of Texas Tech is they're a candy-ass team. They're going to score 44 points, and they're going to give up 52 points.

30:34PFT Commenter:No, their defense. But that's not it. Texas Tech's defensive line is nasty. That's not it at all. Front seven is nasty. And then the Michigan-Nebraska game, I actually came away from that being like, one, Bryce Underwood's really fucking good. Two, Dylan Rayola's really good. Nebraska's defenses would stop them. He played a good game. I don't understand how we have such a disconnect with everyone in the Dylan Rayola-Patrick Mahomes thing. like Matt Rule talked about it Nebraska fans are talking about it like why you guys keep bringing it up we don't keep bringing it up he keeps doing it he's an awesome quarterback just let him be an awesome quarterback someone needs to get in his ear and be like dude

31:17Big Cat:just stop the funniest part to me was when he he like throws an interception and he's he's method acting so hard that he does Patrick Mahomes I just threw an interception two hands to the head it's crazy I don't get it yeah and then he's like I'm just trying to be me and sometimes people don't like me when I'm being me dude Dude, yes. It's weird. Yeah.

31:35PFT Commenter:It's very weird. You're a really good quarterback, so just be a really good quarterback. That's the part that just is so confusing to me. And Matt Rule's saying, oh, why do we keep talking about it? We keep talking about it because he keeps doing it. It's as cut and dry as possible, is it not? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when people are like, why do you keep bringing it up? Why do you keep clowning on them? I don't know, dude. It's weird at this point. Yeah, it is. And when people will come back and say, oh, well, did you idolize? What? You don't think it's that weird? No. Why? Because it's like that's every single person when they're growing up wants to like, he's not growing up anymore.

32:12PFT Commenter:He's playing in the Big Ten. He's in college. He's college. He's not growing up. What do you say about, what do you say when people make missed free throws in college basketball? They're just kids. Okay. Boom. Yeah. Do you know that I'm doing that as a joke? No. Because I want to. Nope. I want to fucking. They're just kids. They're so kids. I want to shit on them and I use that as. They're amateurs. A way to. Hank was proud of himself for that one. He was, but he's wrong because he doesn't understand I'm doing it as a joke. They're just kids. They're just kids.

32:37Big Cat:Never grow up.

32:38PFT Commenter:Yeah, so you have no problem with it. No.

32:41Big Cat:I don't – Okay, Hank, if they're just kids and this is a natural, normal thing for kids to do, how come every other college quarterback hasn't started doing this with other NFL quarterbacks?

32:51PFT Commenter:I'm sure every other quarterback looks at – they study the film. They don't mimic everything.

32:57Big Cat:But he does. Do they choose a school because it's got the same colors and then wear the same numbers?

33:02PFT Commenter:Matt Rule, every quarterback is like, why do you wear this number? Because my favorite player growing up was this person. I don't think you've watched him play. That's a very normal thing. He'll do sidearm passes that are like you shouldn't sidearm pass. Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL. Hank, he does the hand thing? Yeah. Matt Rule started his press conference saying, let's not do the whole Mahomes thing. Let's talk about the football. I agree. Let's talk about the football. Tell him to stop acting like Patrick Mahomes. He's a good football player.

33:31Big Cat:He needs to go to some sort of psychological... But is he a good football player because he acts like Patrick Mahomes? No, he's a good football player because he's good at throwing the football. He needs to go get brainwashed. He needs to spend some time and just sit down in a room with somebody, like a psychiatrist that just gives him some ketamine. It's like, hey, you are not Patrick Mahomes.

33:50PFT Commenter:I just feel like... Hang on. Watch this video. Watch this video. Yeah. I feel like it's such an easy solution if you just stop doing the... It's not even, like, he can love Patrick Mahomes. He can idolize Patrick Mahomes. It's, like, the warm-ups and the fingers and the... How could you say? Hank. Every, this is...

34:07Big Cat:His tight end just got engaged. Yeah, that's a stretch. You think it's a stretch? You think it's a selective clip editing?

34:13PFT Commenter:All right, Hank's getting a... He's stretching. That's, like, walking out of the tunnel, doing a fan let's go, and, like, jumping up is not, like, everyone does that.

34:24Big Cat:Pull up the tunnel walk, him walking into games.

34:31Big Cat:Max, there's a picture right there.

34:35PFT Commenter:He's doing the tunnel. Look at that. I wouldn't know the difference. I mean, look at the picture on the left, Hank. Come on, Hank. Come on. And again, it's so easy for it to stop. Just get a haircut and stop doing it. Yeah. And just be a good quarterback because you are. But yeah, Bryce Underwood is the real deal. Yeah, he's good. He's going to be just fine. I'm pretty sure those Oakley glasses are legitimately Oakley, like Mahomes branded. Of course they are. And then I had the other. And Mahomes isn't even wearing those in his. The other thing I wanted to talk about was. What were you going to say, Max?

35:09Big Cat:Never mind. Never mind.

35:10PFT Commenter:There's three programs that are in some deep, deep shit. One of them is my team. So I wanted to bring them all three up. We can discuss. I'll start with Wisconsin. We're in a lot of trouble. A lot of trouble. like dark dark times I I'm I'm it's so dark that I basically am being like saying things to myself hey what's so bad about just remembering the good old days yeah like that's a bad place to be because I went back and I looked last night I was like so we had 17 straight years from the from the year I was a freshman to 2019 where we won uh 9.7 games per year we had 10 of the 17 years we won over 10 games we had a 12 and one season a 13 one season that's pathetic when i'm doing that but it is i don't know the way out and i think that wisconsin's at a really weird crossroads where it's like i know everyone wants to fire fickle but i think it's deeper than that and you have to like the whoever's in charge i don't even fucking know chancellors presidents commit to being a football school yeah um stop fucking around i also need that guy the guy who created timu colin huang If you're listening from China Hit me up bro He's 50 billion dollars He got his masters from Wisconsin Does he care about football?

36:28PFT Commenter:I don't know but I'm going to try to get him to Because people keep blaming me for not spending money I don't have the money that you need I don't have oil money I don't have Larry Ellison money I'm not even like It's so worlds away You got that Harambe money Colin Huang yeah I got the Harambe money

36:46Big Cat:So what Wisconsin did is they kind of tried to become Texas Tech. They did the dare raid offense, right? Well, no, because we didn't spend millions and millions of dollars on a roster. Right, but what I'm saying is Wisconsin tried to stop being Wisconsin.

37:03PFT Commenter:A little bit. It's more the roster just like we don't have the talent. And our quarterbacks keep getting hurt. It's just we're at a crossroads. It's dark, and I know it's going to be dark for a while. I don't know if they're going to win another game this year. We need to figure it out. gotta have it come to Jesus I don't know who to talk to someone give me someone to talk to give me a chancellor to talk to I'm sure that that will go well if I just tell him hey you know what we gotta fucking spend more money and figure this out we're not gonna win another game probably it's bad it's bad fuck you Hank I saw that face it's bad we have the hardest schedule in the country you can't yeah Maryland I know that what did I just say we're in the darkest of darks we're in a crossroads we're in a we're just we're to we're in a really bad situation if fickle was

37:52Big Cat:if he was uh out of a job there would be lots of teams that would want to hire him right do you think luke fickle is not a good head coach or just not a good fit no i think he's i don't i don't know

38:01PFT Commenter:what it is i don't think he forgot how to coach i yeah the hire was a great hire at the time everyone thought it was a home run hire like every expert everyone it just hasn't gone well So I don't know what the fix is, but it has to be fixed. Or we just don't play football anymore.

38:20Big Cat:Or you go back to being Wisconsin and you run the football. You just play the most boring brand of Wisconsin football. Fine by me. And you win nine games a year.

38:29PFT Commenter:Also, I would like to say. You need an alpha male coach who should be coaching but isn't coaching to fire the team up. John Gruden. Okay. I also saw Barry Alvarez. He did, and I love Barry Alvarez, but he tried to do the you're spoiled thing that Dabo did. Yeah. No, it doesn't work. It's been five years that Wisconsin's not been good at football. There's kids who are seniors who have not seen a good football product on the field. There's no spoiled. And why don't you fucking figure out how to get the, instead of having all the students go in single file to the student section so it doesn't get full until the second quarter, figure that the fuck out and let them in.

39:07PFT Commenter:and also put the student section in a better spot for the basketball. Start being serious about sports. It's a joke. It's not spoiled. The program has fallen off. It is completely bottomed out. So to be like, oh, you guys are spoiled, that's just wrong. I think Wisconsin fans are some of the most patient fans, but five years is a long time to be just a shit product in football. You're friends with Urban Meyer now, right? I am-ish. Although I don't know if he knows the difference between me and Brandon. I called Brandon Dan the whole time at dinner. Would Urban Meyer be amenable to the Wisconsin job?

39:40PFT Commenter:I don't think so. I think he's liking his job at Fox. Dabo? No.

39:44Big Cat:So let's talk about Dabo. I would not hire Dabo. He's in a crisis. Dabo is, I think he's reached the point now where he is, he's outwardly hostile towards Clemson fans.

39:54PFT Commenter:Well, him saying, maybe we just suck. Yeah. That's a pretty good sign that things are not going well.

39:59Big Cat:And the crazy thing is, people now point back to week one and they say that LSU win over Clemson, not that impressive because now we know that Clemson just sucks ass. I think that was the one week where Clemson still had a little bit of that juice because they've got good players. They've got good recruits. He's got, on paper, what should be a good team. Week one, they're going out there thinking, yeah, we're confident. We have a chance. We're in this. Then they lose. Then everything falls apart. Now it's like Clemson, they're not getting those guys. Those guys aren't going to be as motivated for the rest of the year as they were.

40:31Big Cat:Buying back in. In week one. Now they're just a bad team, and they're a poorly coached team. and Dabo doesn't know how to handle it. And he is just in his feelings. He was crying a little bit. Dabo was crying a little bit. They did their little lap around the stadium beforehand like a dog before it takes a shit. It was a bad scene.

40:51PFT Commenter:Yeah, it was a bad scene. It feels like it's over for Dabo just because of the way he... I don't know. I mean, I don't think they should fire him. I also think Dabo probably is overestimating the level of job he would get. And I think you'd obviously get a good job, but I don't know if you'd get a premier job. Yeah, if you were Florida, would you hire Dabo Sweeney? I don't think I would. I don't think so with the way – this is the – If I was Wisconsin, I would not hire Dabo Sweeney. No, because it's – and it goes to the last team, Oklahoma State. It's over for Mike Gundy as well. They lost to Tulsa for the first time since like 1950.

41:25PFT Commenter:It's a common theme of coaches or programs not getting with the times and not adjusting to the new era of college football and being left in the past. And so it's bad.

41:36Big Cat:And listen, the times you could make the argument, the times suck. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard to build a college football program. To be a college football coach is probably the most annoying thing ever because you have to worry all the time about which guys that you don't have starting are going to leave in the portal, which guys do you need to get to come to your school to replace guys that will leave. It sucks. You have to badger all the alumni and be like, hey, I need some more money because we need this offensive lineman for NIL. It's a shitty time to be a college football coach. But guess what?

42:05Big Cat:there's a lot of college football coaches that don't mind doing that stuff and they get paid a lot of money and they figure it out and you get paid a shitload of money and also i'm not going

42:12PFT Commenter:to be that guy who like when my team goes starts being bad be like well it's because college football changed and uh used to be better no no figure it out get with the times fucking fix it i don't know everyone else is figuring out how to fix it breaking moves

42:32PFT Commenter:Mike Gundy fired Oh wow So throw this in right after we talked about Mike Gundy He was fired

42:39Big Cat:Okay he probably had a not very productive meeting With the athletic director I would guess on Sunday or Monday Gave him a piece of his mind

42:47PFT Commenter:So day after his I'm a man I'm 40 Anniversary

42:51Big Cat:Mike Gundy fired Does Mike Gundy get a new job I don't know maybe had an all time run Mike Gundy's gonna be on the news I feel like he's gonna do news hits

43:02PFT Commenter:yeah that could be that could definitely be like just get he's gonna get some takes off I'm sad to see him go because he is kind of a fun guy to have around but yeah it felt like this was it was time it was due to happen with the way the season's been going in the last couple of years so yeah Mike Gundy fired 170 and 90 overall record he had that one year Was it two years ago where they almost went to the playoff? Yeah. It kind of saved them for a second. He had some really fun teams through the years, too. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We lose a legend in the college football game.

43:37Big Cat:So this is how bad things are for Clemson and also for UNC, for Belichick. By the way, Hank, did you see that video of Belichick and Jordan making out on the sidelines? Yeah, it was fake. Jumped into his arms. That was crazy. But here's how bad things have gotten for him. it's gonna be dabbo swinney against bill belichick coaching against each other before the season started we were all like oh i can't wait to watch that it's gonna be awesome they moved it to noon it's the noon game and ludicrous committed to doing a pre-game concert oh no at unc so ludicrous now has to go on at 9 45 in the morning in chapel hill to perform oh that's not that's not ludicrous hours.

44:19PFT Commenter:Oof.

44:21Big Cat:Oof. Bad times.

44:23PFT Commenter:Yeah, that's going to be a tough one. I feel like Dabo's going to try to take out a lot of pain on Bill Belichick because Clemson is still significantly better than UNC.

44:31Big Cat:Yeah.

44:32PFT Commenter:So that might be a hurting. But yeah, I feel like Dabo, he's checked out. Yeah. And then this weekend's going to be incredible. This weekend's going to be incredible. We have USC Illinois at noon. we have Ohio State Washington which is a sneaky great game that's going to be a tough game for Ohio State LSU Ole Miss we have Oregon Penn State Alabama Georgia this is the weekend

44:58Big Cat:clear your plan shout out to Oklahoma they keep winning but they still haven't forced a turnover and also they did cheat they did cheat the SEC they said hey hands up we missed that one sorry guys they ran the trick play where they sent a guy to the sidelines like the old Johnny Manziel, Kyle Shanahan, and then sent him to the end zone after they snapped the ball. I don't know why that's an illegal play. I guess it's hard to officiate. Yeah. The refs have a tough time keeping track of substitutions. I don't know. It was illegal. They screwed that one up.

45:31PFT Commenter:Are you happy the SEC formally apologized if you're an Auburn fan or are you more pissed off? More pissed. Yeah. I was saying it'd be funny. Like the NBA last two minutes. Yeah. If there's like an Auburn fan that printed that out and like put it on their refrigerator. Yeah. See, the only thing. They apologize to me. Yeah.

45:47Big Cat:The only thing it does for you is you get to make fun of Oklahoma fans when they bring up that they beat you. Yeah. Yeah, but you guys cheated. The SEC admitted to it. Oh, also, we should credit Miami. Yeah. Miami is awesome. Yeah. Miami is awesome. That's another big story from this weekend. That was an ugly game against Florida. That's all Florida does. But Miami was – their offense and defensive lines are really, really good. You had Michael Irvin on the sidelines. He's now dedicating all of his emotional energy into the Miami Hurricanes. Smart. The Cowboys stink. Smart. And Mario Cristobal is an absolute psychopath.

46:22Big Cat:Yes. In the same way as Dan Campbell, maybe not as smart as Dan, but, like, he's a psychopath. Miami is a legitimately good team. And we've seen them play – like, beat teams with their offense and Carson Beck. and this time it was just like we're going to play an ugly game we got dragged down to florida's level and they tried to beat us with experience but we can win that type of game too we can win an ugly game that nobody wants to watch in bad conditions yeah it was so i feel like miami miami is a team and if you look at their schedule yeah miami is going to be in the national championship consideration and i like what what they said about uh what christobal said about the you being back he was like i don't that's back is a backwards looking statement i'm trying to build something i'm not entertaining being back we're here for the first time now their back

47:08PFT Commenter:would be really good their back is really really good yeah the uh yeah no that was a game it was a 13-7 game in the fourth quarter and miami just like that's a sign of maybe miami old miami teams might have wilted or there might have been you know a play that that screws them up or defensive of no they just they just went in pound town and just like took took florida on a ride for some bully ball drives it was pound won that game yeah they took them to pound town but that was kind of a moment where it's like is this miami team for real it's 13-7 they're better than florida but this game has got is got the weird vibes of a rivalry game and then they took them to pound

47:43Big Cat:i'm excited about miami florida state yeah that's going to be a great game great game uh okay let's

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49:33Big Cat:He might be the number one geek in golf, yeah.

49:35PFT Commenter:Yeah, he is a big-time hater. And that's a stacked field. Yeah. Really stacked. He was talking about, and he's old. Like, he's an old fart.

49:43Big Cat:Come on.

49:44PFT Commenter:He is.

49:45Big Cat:We're not too age. We're not too age.

49:46PFT Commenter:Well, he was talking about Bryson, and he said he's a captain's nightmare to pick a partner because he's selfish.

49:53Big Cat:He's an iceberg.

49:53PFT Commenter:And he was talking about how, like, you know, he did a press conference, and instead of talking about the team and how much he likes playing for the team, he brought up his YouTube. so it's like he was you know saying he's he was self self-sucking himself promoting and promoting his youtube and then this is where i i really i put him on the hot seat because there's just no way brandle shambly is is this locked in or or i don't think this is true first of all but he said i have no doubt that bots are generating a lot of those views oh he called him out for bots on his youtube bot farming and brandle shambly brandle shambly is is somehow in the know enough to know about you know youtube views and and that bots are the reason that bryson's which it is objectively like i i love youtube golf it's like bryson's content is probably the most unique and it's very interesting and entertaining like of course people are watching it what about

50:44Big Cat:all the kids that come up to him and say i love your content thank you for doing the youtube

50:47PFT Commenter:content right yeah those are those bots yeah exactly yeah uh hank i got a question so we're gonna do a rider cup preview with shane bacon uh on friday's show because friday is when the rider Cup starts and we'll talk about the Ryder Cup set the scene everything I get a question for you I saw a tweet from glute activator that I happen to agree with the hype videos are way too early they're dropping a couple of weeks they're dry they're dropping hype videos on a Monday I need a video on Thursday night no I kind of agree with

51:19Big Cat:Ryder Cup week I agree with glute activator yeah but I might even go one step further golf is not a hype video sport it's a hard hype video it's not a hype video sport and golf you don't want to be hyped

51:30PFT Commenter:but it's too early to get out of cup yeah but hank it's too early to get hype it's not that the hype videos did you watch the video the firefighter yeah and guess what i'm gonna forget about it by friday were you not fired up on monday yeah i want to get hyped up after we beat europe i want to get hyped up right before i want to get hyped up right before by the way what's your rider cup plan being at nip valley on saturday you're our number one golf expert yeah I'm going to watch on Saturday. I'm probably going to find a bar and watch college football on the Ryder Cup. Sunday morning. Sunday, I'll be here.

52:02PFT Commenter:You're going to be back in time? I land at 8, and I'm just going to come straight to the office. Okay. Ireland and Ryder Cup. Nice.

52:08Big Cat:Hank, you're going to Knit Valley. Yep. To the Big Beave. Big Beave. You're a duck, though, right? Oh, you are a duck. You are a duck. You've got ties with Oregon. Close ties. some of your closest people that you work with pretty much work at Oregon are you going to root for State Penn or are you going to root for the Duckey and this seems like it's the matchup where it's like I know your allegiance is to this guy we are going to the game if you turn against Penn if you root for Penn State you're going to lose no no State Penn if you root for State Penn you're going to lose a friend

52:43PFT Commenter:I disagree I mean I think me if I were going to this game I'd root for Oregon I'd come in as a duck I go, I do this. Quack, quack, quack, quack. That's me because I'm a rider. We are. We are. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. We are. We are. We are. Wow. Good question. Are you going to bet? Yeah, on Penn State. Wow. State Penn. Yeah. See, you even say it the right way now. Or maybe the over. I don't know. Okay. But yeah, we are whiteout. You're going to the game. It's like you got to root for the home team. Just root for the over. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And then Scotty. Scotty did a press conference talking about Bryce.

53:15PFT Commenter:He said he's a tremendous competitor. He's a great partner as well. He's a great guy. He's a good friend. He's been great in our team room. He brings a lot of energy, and people love him. Being an American means a lot to him, and I'm excited to kind of unleash him this week. Are you worried at all about the players being paid? Has it ruined the love of the game? No. Okay, same. Yeah. Agreed. I'm okay with that. I've just seen people complain about that. I'm like, I thought they did get paid. I don't fucking care. They should get paid. I mean, everyone else is getting paid. Also, they're probably getting paid.

53:41PFT Commenter:The networks are getting paid. everyone else involved in the Ryder Cup is getting paid we talked about that two years ago

53:48Big Cat:it's kind of horse shit that they didn't pay the guys what are they getting paid

53:53PFT Commenter:Bryson's already said he's donating it it's like everyone's going to just take the money and give it to a better cause they're part of something that's generating a fuckload of money they should get paid I'm sure 99 % of the guys are we're finding out$500 ,000 each I'll say it right now if they ever call me my country to compete in the Ryder Cup, I will absolutely donate every single cent of the pay to charity. I'll pay them. How about that?

54:19Big Cat:Scotty is donating it, right?

54:22PFT Commenter:Scotty and Bryson I've seen.

54:24Big Cat:Bryson's probably just reinvesting it into a server building. Oh wait, hold on.

54:28PFT Commenter:Hold on, it's$500 ,000 each, $300 ,000 going to the chosen charity so they're kind of getting, they don't really get credit for this charity. They're being forced. me I would then give the$200 ,000 as a personal stipend that would go to charity and probably a match I'd probably do$400 ,000 to charity$300 ,000 also to charity yeah I'd double it so maybe put that on a quote card if I were in the Ryder Cup I would give$700 ,000 to charity that's big of you thank you appreciate it you'll be good two years you'll be good at golf by then yep I am oh you're gonna hate it you're gonna hate it when I just one day show up and beat you breaking news breaking news breaking news breaking moves oh we got him jackson dart the dart attack is starting on sunday versus the chargers this is to be expected to be expected okay russell wilson that that goal line sequence

55:23Big Cat:that was it it was tough the throw away on fourth down yeah because we were recording when we did it so when we do that i have to go back and i have to watch the games again and just get a general appreciation for how ridiculous that goal line sequence was it was worse than i thought i would

55:38PFT Commenter:love to know how many times someone's gotten intentional grounding from the two yard line yeah yeah that was like unfathomable beyond bad he came close to getting intentional grounding on fourth down from the two yard line again yeah yeah uh and then my cool throne is is sec football this league yep Landry Kiffin yeah Lane Kiffin's daughter Greg Olsen is apparently in a relationship with Whit Weeks, who's LSU's best linebacker. And they posted a picture that was just hard launching. It just said hard launch. And they're playing this week, LSU Ole Miss. Am I wrong in saying this is good for Ole Miss?

56:20PFT Commenter:Yeah. Like, I saw it and I immediately was like, first of all, it's a hard launch. I don't know. I feel like you can spin it whichever way you want. I disagree. I think you are wrong. Yeah. Hear me out. So it was a hard launch. You think Big Cat's wrong? Yes. okay it was a hard launch for uh the couple on the internet lane keff kiven has known that they've been dating for a while now 100 it's his daughter right you don't think that he's had a little little maybe a few too many soda pops with uh weeks and just been like hey let's get on the whiteboard real i don't think lane drinks anymore okay well whatever they've just been hanging out hey let's get on the whiteboard show me show me what you guys like to run what you think you think

57:00Big Cat:they're boys i think they're boys i i disagree i think that this is huge for who do you think it's a bigger distraction for yeah so i saw he was lane kiffin was making jokes about it right

57:09PFT Commenter:away he knew this he knew they were dating i don't think he cared what i saw last night from

57:13Big Cat:lane kiffin uh a man who who logged on and was posting through it and told somebody to take the over yeah in the game yeah which is kind of weird for a coach to be doing that well it's because he knows their defense because he's had conversations with weeks i don't know if you're looking at the mental edge i feel like lsu they can just be like hey she calls him daddy too no i i think this is

57:35PFT Commenter:i think lane kiffin's got some got some keys to the game now i feel like you can i feel like it's it's a it's a good spin zone you can if you work hard enough you can spin it whichever way you i mean lane kiffin joking about it almost immediately means that he's known about this relationship for a while it is i think everyone thinks like oh shit lane kiffin just got a bomb dropped on him he's definitely known they've been dating for a while it is a romeo and juliet situation yeah it's good it's great this league classic sec well what's crazy so lsu is the

58:01Big Cat:underdog this weekend yeah i feel like that's that's better for the underdog whichever side

58:06PFT Commenter:was the underdog i would say benefits from this news okay take the over it was uh weeks of one thing uh weeks of one thing the over yeah he said take the over kiffin household must be in shamble see that's the thing is i don't if he didn't know about it, I would understand being like, holy shit, he definitely knew about it. But he could have been like... Because he had fun with it right away. He posted a picture of her.

58:31Big Cat:I think he probably... It was like, she's still rooting for Ole Miss. I think he probably did know about it, but she also took maybe the worst time possible to announce it. Like, she did this strategically. It's not a coincidence that she said, okay, it's LSU week. Yeah. I'm going to announce it. That, in any world, is a bigger distraction for a dad.

58:51PFT Commenter:Maybe Lane Kiffin said, hey, let's wait to announce it in LSU week.

58:55Big Cat:But how would that benefit him? That just gets him asking questions.

58:58PFT Commenter:Talking about it, making Joe stop thinking about game plans. He's already thinking about game plans. He's already talked to Weeks about what they're going to run on defense.

59:04Big Cat:No, I think if your daughter does this during this week, it feels like it's to jab you. I agree.

59:11PFT Commenter:I don't think so. I think he's having so much fun with it right away that that reeks of coordinated attack.

59:16Big Cat:It reeks of, I'm actually. No, I don't have a choice.

59:20PFT Commenter:It's like, I wish you didn't do it. I'm actually laughing. I'm not mad.

59:24Big Cat:Please don't print that I got mad.

59:25PFT Commenter:Yeah.

59:26Big Cat:No. Yeah.

59:27PFT Commenter:Yeah. Let's eat the other way. Okay.

59:30Big Cat:Embrace debate. We'll find out. Hey, that's what makes college football so fun. It's great. We get to find out.

59:35PFT Commenter:It's great. It's great. When he starts running action right at Weeks' face.

59:40Big Cat:I do think that if you're an industrious young student in Baton Rouge, a shirt that said she calls him Daddy 2 with a picture of Weeks would go hard. you could sell you could make a couple ten thousand dollars mid five figures on that yeah

59:54PFT Commenter:i would agree i would agree make some make some t-shirts get the t-shirt the game is an old miss but make some t-shirts get it going yeah you can still do t-shirts yeah for sure uh okay your hot

1:00:04Big Cat:seat cool throwing pft uh my hot seat is me and hank's relationship oh because not again we got a great relationship how are you guys gonna get out of this we're gonna golf our way through it we have we we have a video hank and i uh from the writer cup that we're gonna be putting out hank and i went head to head in the writer cup great match and is that coming out thursday thursday or friday thursday or friday one of those two days a great match it was it was teacher against student hank's been doing a great job working me on my swing get me ready for the internet invitational and uh i was dealing with an excruciating back problem at the time but I said, put me in there, coach.

1:00:42Big Cat:I want the opportunity to play against my real coach off the field. And I had fun playing with you, and we'll see who won. Sounds like fun. Yeah, I don't understand the hot – Well, it's just us competing against each other at something that we care so deeply about. Emotions were high.

1:00:58PFT Commenter:Yeah, it was fun. I love competing against you. I'm excited for our match, even though PFT has secretly been taking lessons and won't admit it. Oh, is that a fair accusation?

1:01:08Big Cat:I don't want to tell Hank if it's a fair accusation or not, but it's not. Okay. I have not taken a single lesson, but I figured something out. Oh. But Hank. Sounds like a lesson. This is actually great. No, this is actually great for him.

1:01:21PFT Commenter:As someone who watched him swing for two months. Hank is going around the office. I've seen him in the last two weeks, and it's like something has drastically changed. Drastically.

1:01:30Big Cat:Hank's going around the office telling everybody PFT got a lesson, and I didn't get a lesson, and he is so rattled by my new swing. then it's awesome for me. Also, he's allowed to get a lesson. No, I know.

1:01:43PFT Commenter:It's more he just won't admit it. Again, I spent so much time watching him, and if you watch the first couple of Ryder Cup matches, he struggled mightily.

1:01:55Big Cat:No, I won the first Ryder Cup match.

1:01:57PFT Commenter:Or the second Ryder, whatever. Yeah, the alternate shot didn't play well. And you had back issues, and I was your coach. I knew how far you were hitting your clubs and stuff, and then I've seen you in the last two weeks, and it's like 20, 30, 40 yards difference.

1:02:11Big Cat:I told you I figured something out.

1:02:12PFT Commenter:Yeah. Figured something out. Which I feel like means lesson, but you won't.

1:02:15Big Cat:I did ask for lessons, and I had people that reached out to me about lessons, and I did not take them up on it. I said, I'm a man. I don't – listen, I'm not going to let another man tell me how to swing a golf club. That's true.

1:02:27PFT Commenter:Kind of sus. Are you a cool throne?

1:02:30Big Cat:My cool throne is everyone, all of us. Oh. Because we're still here. Oh, yeah. The rapture. The rapture. The rapture was going to be – it didn't happen. Maybe not yet.

1:02:39PFT Commenter:The day's not over.

1:02:40Big Cat:But I feel like Tuesday's over in some parts of the world already. That's true. So it didn't happen on Tuesday. You're listening to this, then we made it. It was supposed to happen. What was supposed to happen? We're supposed to get the rapture today, which is when Jesus comes down to Earth and then takes like a billion people up to heaven. Thanos? Who? Well, then the rest of us have to stay down here and sort it out. Who? Then we get a seven-year graze. Thanos. Then we get seven years to figure it out amongst ourselves. it's like when your parents send you to your room and they're like hey go and think about what you've done and i'm going to come get you and you tell me what you did wrong then you can come out that's what jesus is going to do during the rapture and then everyone on earth we get like a do-over and we get to then be like hey yeah when you come back i want to get raptured so i'm going to get baptized and believe in you who decided it was the rapture today one guy on tiktok you got to kill yourself no that's not a rapture that's now if you call the end of the world and it doesn't end

1:03:37PFT Commenter:you can't be here anymore buddy you're out that's that's i mean that's a cult thing like when they did the heaven's gate and they're like yeah it's coming down like dude if you try to call your shot you got to be out at the end of the day i do like you got to take your hat off to the heaven's

1:03:51Big Cat:gate cult yeah but i'm just saying they're about they're about that life yeah they're swaggy as fuck but i'm just saying like you can't call the end of the world and then have it not happen and then still be here that's not fair in theory yes but everybody that's ever predicted the end of the world should be out they'll just spin it they'll just be like uh should be out we gotta be a rule we gotta wait uh god was testing me to see if i believe that there would be a rapture but turns out i passed that test by telling everyone else so now stand by because he's gonna come back to

1:04:19PFT Commenter:me when it's really time think about how electric it would be if that was a rule because like hey if someone's gonna call it like you're putting your life on the line yeah you better really mean it you can't just say it yeah otherwise people just fucking say it everywhere oh yeah fucking 20 2048 world's gonna end yep no all right if it doesn't happen you got to be out i think that's

1:04:41Big Cat:a hard and fast rule so we did not get raptured we're still around okay uh i did like the advice that people were giving on tiktok though about what about the rapture about how to handle being raptured if it's your first time they were saying okay so don't look down because it's going to be scary as you're floating up you want to keep your eyes in front of you maybe keep your eyes even pointed upwards you want to take deep breaths through your nose out through they're getting really deep into the advice what are you gonna say counterpoint the rapture could have happened yeah because it says because we're the that would mean we're the we're the assholes what do you mean like the good people get sucked up into the sky and the bad people are left to rock it's a plot of this is the end but i feel like you but i'm fine with that yeah don't you go to hell in a bucket don't you know that people got sucked up we what that means we're we're the bat we wouldn't

1:05:26PFT Commenter:know we've been in here for we we don't know anyone good enough to get raptured zach would have gotten raptured i don't know he didn't text that girl back for a while i think zach would go we have been here in here for a little bit now the roger could have happened yeah what if we

1:05:43Big Cat:were the last ones around yeah i would love to see zach meeting jesus oh thank you sir you're So nice. Oh, hello, sir. Oh, sir. Would you like some ice cream, sir? Sir, how are you doing?

1:05:52PFT Commenter:All right. My hot seat is Auburn basketball. Bruce Pearl has named his son, Stephen, the head coach. Five-year contract. We like Bruce Pearl. We like Stephen. But Bruce Pearl did have a receipt pulled on him when Stephen A. Smith was speaking about nepotism in sports. And Bronny James, Bruce Pearl said, preach, Stephen A. This is, listen, I'm fine with it. Just be like, yeah, he's probably not qualified, but I wanted my son to have a job. So I'm going to retire right before the season when no one can transfer.

1:06:25Big Cat:Yeah, it's kind of a strange time to announce it. Some people were speculating that he's going to run for Senate. Well, I don't think, it's actually not a strange time.

1:06:33PFT Commenter:I think this is the new move because you basically lock in your roster. Like if he announced it right after the tournament last year. Yeah. he doesn't set up his son to have a successful transition now he kind of has set him up that's

1:06:48Big Cat:true but it also is like last minute thing yeah for the fan base yeah but i think that's a team by design yeah but for the team it's like i don't know i feel like that's an announcement that should be made way earlier in the offseason want to set up his son instead of the day before you get started he wanted to set up his son yeah i some people say he might run for senate which would set up potentially a race between Bruce Pearl and former Tennessee football coach Derek Dooley. So two former Tennessee coaches that were there at the exact same time would be running for Senate in Alabama. Bruce, I don't think is indicating that

1:07:24PFT Commenter:he's going to run yet, but he

1:07:26Big Cat:might. He might because Tuberville is on his way out and Bruce Pearl, at least he won. He's a good coach.

1:07:32PFT Commenter:I do love that in the South they're like, yeah, who should run our state

1:07:39Big Cat:a coach. The reality is if you're running for Senate in Alabama, you're just begging that Nick Saban doesn't throw his hat in the ring. Right. Tommy Tuberville.

1:07:47PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:07:47Big Cat:Yeah.

1:07:48PFT Commenter:You want a coach. You want a coach in charge. And then my cool throne, it was going to be Oh, I guess I'll just do this. Bill Nye got a Hollywood Walk of Fame and Jalen Brown was there. Oh, cool. Bill. Bill. Bill. Bill. What? It's kind of random. He just respects science. He loves Bill Nye. Oh, he does? Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. He tweeted when he was in college, like, I really want to meet Bill Nye. That's very funny. Bill Nye came to one of the Celtics games, and it was like a big... Look at him. He gave a speech. That's really funny. That's awesome.

1:08:20Big Cat:That's aura right there.

1:08:21PFT Commenter:Yeah, that is aura. That's maximum aura.

1:08:23Big Cat:That's a leader.

1:08:24PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:08:24Big Cat:I respect Bill Nye just as a human. He would be probably top five for me in terms of if Bill Nye was canceled for being a scumbag. That would wreck my childhood. Yeah. It's him and Weird Al. Those are the two big ones. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah, they are boys.

1:08:38PFT Commenter:That's very funny. All right, Zach. Hot seat, Coulteron. My hot seat this week is Gervonta Davis. Did any of you guys see the presser with Gervonta and Jake Paul yesterday? Yes, Tank, yeah. He is a three-time world champion, but size different-wise. The only requirement they have on the weight for the fight is that you can't go over 195 pounds. He's like seven inches shorter, nine inches of reach. I know he's way better of a fighter. is there a chance he just gets starched by someone this much bigger? It is going to be a great test of, like, he's a significantly better boxer, but he is way shorter.

1:09:15Big Cat:On tomorrow's part of my take. Yep. That's what I see when I see that picture.

1:09:19PFT Commenter:There it is. By the way, congrats. You signed Desmond Watson, Zach. That's huge for Desmond. Great for us, but massive for Desmond. And the tush push. Tush push. I don't know. We used to do pretty well against the tush push. Yeah, get him in the package. Before Desmond. We had a 400-pound guy to our tush push package. Yeah. Yeah, VitaVe and Desmond, that's a lot of meat. Is Lane playing? Big body. He said he was going to play. All right. Mike Evans is out for three to four weeks. That's a bummer. Disappointing, but I'm just glad it's not the whole season. I hope it gets well soon. Yeah. All right, your cool throne?

1:09:49My cool throne this week is Call of Duty Enjoyers because the multiplayer for Black Ops 7's trailer did drop. Oh. And I think it's going to be – we're taking a little bit more of – or they're taking a little bit more of a futuristic approach again, which we haven't seen since Infinite Warfare. A little bit of wall running. 30 weapons at launch 18 maps, I think it'll be good It's going to be a lot of fun I could be overly optimistic because I don't want it to suck but for right now I think it'll be good

1:10:16PFT Commenter:Good hot seat, cool throne Alright, let's get to our interviews We've got Greg Olson and then Goose the Band and then we'll finish up with Pardon Your Takes Greg Olson is going to be brought to you guys by Reese's You could honestly, if you asked me what my Mount Rushmore favorite candies are I could pick four things from the Reese's families pick it up it's been my favorite candy since i was a little little boy best thing on the planet they provide even more ways to enjoy that perfect combo of chocolate and peanut butter there are so many to choose from fast break Reese's sticks take five nutrageous and outrageous they're perfect for filling on the go eating experience my favorite Reese's bar is the Reese's sticks og classic been around forever never gets old always hits the spot my favorite dynamic duo probably would have to be memes and not getting the lottery ball.

1:11:05PFT Commenter:You know, I've been in this seat before, but it's a lot more fun when you're just enjoying someone else not get the lottery ball. Shop for all your favorite Reese's bars now and find your favorite found wherever candy is sold. Reese's. And now, Greg Olson. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is our guy, Greg Olson. You can hear him on Sundays. uh greg thank you for joining us thank you for not dressing like an umpire uh should we talk about that because let's talk about it yeah because dave was busting your balls on monday morning on wake up barstool uh you did look like an umpire i don't know if we would have said anything because we've already said something about your sport coat we've already gone down that path then everyone was like oh greg olsen hates dave do you hate dave of course i actually was just texting with Dave 30 minutes ago and uh no I don't hate I've known Dave for 20 years right we go way back you're allowed to bust your buddy's balls but the key is you got to give it right back back to him right like you can't be a one-sided deal Dave and I have known each other for a long time we bust each other's balls a lot over the years um of course I don't hate him yeah yeah it It was very clear to me the internet was going to run with it, and it was like – Yeah, that's okay.

1:12:30PFT Commenter:I actually was – Yeah. We've known Greg forever, and to be honest, like you were dressed like an umpire. Yeah, and I think it was – I mean, I don't need the Barstool edit guys making like – what are they? It's like those memes of me dressed like an umpire. I thought maybe my credibility with the Barstool brand maybe would – we don't need to make it like I'm like the, the butt of the joke. Yeah. Yeah. But you know what? That, that kind of was on you because you dress like an umpire. So that was kind of on you.

1:13:04Big Cat:Also, some guys, sometimes guys are just sick of each other's shit. Yeah. And so you got to just bust your, you just got to go back and it's all in good fun and it's all in good. It's all, it's all in love. And I actually was literally texting with Dave before I came on the show 30 minutes ago, joking about how the internet is amazing and the internet is crazy and everyone thinks we hate each other. And I'm just going to let it be out there and just let it fester. Yeah. Okay. Well, are you going to stop dressing like an umpire moving forward? No, I'm not going to really give much more thoughts into my outfits.

1:13:38The hat and the shirt were not supposed to go together. I was, I was out of town. I flew for my game. I was in, I had to fly to New York. I had to do a meeting in the morning. It was early. I got up before I had to do Dave's show, which I'm happy to do. Didn't feel like doing my hair. I had gotten dressed for the day, and then that was the only hat that I had. So I was like, I can wear a hat on this show, hence I'm wearing a hat today. It was the only hat I had, and I hadn't done my hair. And it never dawned on me that I looked like an umpire.

1:14:13Big Cat:Next week, you should have a chest protector.

1:14:14PFT Commenter:Yeah, you should lean into it. Just go all the way. I might go mask next week. Yeah, yeah. That'd be good. Really just lean in.

1:14:20Big Cat:Yeah. Okay, go ahead. Yeah, I was going to wear my sport coat on here today. Oh, yeah. The bad one. The one that looks like you shot a couch and then had it upholstered onto your chest.

1:14:29PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one. You tried to shame me and say that your wife picked it out and make me feel bad? Yeah, I know. She did pick it out, and she's yet to try your coffee ever again.

1:14:38Big Cat:Probably because she didn't want anybody at home being like, oh, my husband's hot. I'm going to make him wear the ugliest thing possible. Yeah. That's all mine. That's a good spin. My husband is so hot I have to dress him down. Yes. Yeah, that's exactly what happened.

1:14:49PFT Commenter:That's why I dress like this. Yeah. I'm moving forward with that. I like that. I like that one. All right, so week three is in the books. You have done three games, obviously, so far. You've done the 49ers, Seahawks, Giants, Dallas, Rams, Eagles. Out of those six teams, who are you most impressed with? I assume it's going to be the Eagles, but let's talk about the games you've actually covered because I feel like you get extra insight into those. Yeah, I mean, as far as team that I think can make the longest run, the deepest run, I think of the six that I've seen, yeah, I think Philly and the Rams.

1:15:24I mean, I think Philly and the Rams, I know the Rams lost, but I thought for most of the game, they controlled it. They dominated the entire first half. The score, we said it over and over. They kept settling for field goals. They couldn't punch it in. And the game felt so much worse than the score was at halftime. Then they come out, they get the quick turnaround on the strip sack, score, and you go, oh my God, are we in for a boat race? And then all of a sudden, the Eagles decided to let Jalen Hurts play quarterback and start throwing the ball to A.J. Brown and Devontae Smith and Dallas Goddard.

1:15:55And they started going up and down the field. I think that took some pressure off the Philly defense that they settled in. And I think the fast start by the Rams, especially defensively, was kind of wasted because they just couldn't score enough touchdowns and you're going to continue to see teams do it and you know we saw it last night with the lions game like everyone has to stop thinking kicking the ball is all the days of we're going to play field position the days of let's just take the points those have to be over you are going to lose in the nfl nowadays every time you kick the ball a punt or a kick yeah a field goal it's a bad play unless it is a 50 plus yard field goal on fourth and long you should not kick field goals that much in a game or you're going to lose and

1:16:42Big Cat:we see it time and time again yeah yeah it's a good point it is a good point and yeah i think coaches are starting to catch up to that and that's the way the nfl is going and every time dan campbell does it it's for a reason and he's made his name as being an aggressive coach i think the players like it too i think it's just part of like the the culture of that team that he's got where if you know that your coach believes in you and believes in your defense too conversely if you don't get it. I feel like that's just something that helps everybody in the locker room all get on the same page. There's no doubt.

1:17:12And when it becomes ingrained in everything that you do, there's no question. There's no half the huddle of saying, why are we doing this? And half the huddle is excited. Like you're saying, it's baked in. The other aspect of this that I think needs to get a lot more conversation is everyone right now is talking about analytics and these charts and go for it. But it really boils down to, for a lot of head coaches, so we'll take Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell can lose that playoff game a couple years ago where they went 0-4 on fourth down, and he can stand at the podium, and he's confident enough and stands tall enough and says, you know what?

1:17:52It didn't work today. I'll take that as the coach. We lost the game because I was aggressive on fourth down, and we didn't win. not a lot of coaches like standing there saying it falls on me right when you get a field goal blocked or you fail you know you don't you hey we kick a lot of field goals we got to get better we have to execute better the kicker has to be better the long snapper has to be better there's a lot of guys that have to be better when you fail on fourth down the only guy that gets asked is the head coach why did you go for it on fourth down why did you pass up points why didn't you punt or whatever the question is it takes a certain type of guy to stand up there when it doesn't work out and say you know what that's on me i'm good with it and if i could do it all over again i'm gonna do it again like that's what it takes everyone wants to do it but not everyone wants to answer the

1:18:43Big Cat:questions if it fails yeah and that's why i'm okay with it when he does it in the playoffs and it doesn't work and they end up going home for the season they did it all year long i'm i'm completely i will never trash dan campbell for being too aggressive in a game even if it's a playoff game that a field goal might have helped them win in that case because that's not who he is um hank is not here right now i think he is boycotting this interview because he took dave's side in the beef but uh he and i and big what was his take i think i think hank is just going to take his side in any any beef involving dave i think that's kind of how he operates um but hank and me and big cat have had a little back and forth in the last couple weeks about Tom Brady being in the Raiders booth after calling the games.

1:19:28Big Cat:And we tried to force him to admit that it was weird that you have an NFL owner that's on the headset in the booth that's also doing this, you know, the advanced meetings that you're having, the prep meetings. So you are in the business. I'm curious to know what kind of information gets shared as you're going into a game. Like what type of prep do you put in and how much info do you actually get from teams? I'm going to answer your question, but literally as you were asking that question, I got a text from Big Cat and I checked my phone and it was a picture of an umpire.

1:19:58PFT Commenter:Yeah. Memes is sending us edits. So then I was like, oh, shit, here's an edit. I'm going to send it to you. So, yeah, it's very funny. We put it up in the YouTube while you're watching this. It's a good thing. I got thick skin. It's a good thing. Tell Hank to stop being so sensitive. Me and Dave are very, very good and we're fine. Okay. Right. So to answer your question, it depends on who you talk to, right? Like there are some coaches where we know going into the meeting, we only have to talk to them. They're going to be very forthright. They're going to be very honest. They're going to tell us exactly where the matchups are, exactly what the thought processes are.

1:20:35Here's how we're going to handle the game. Expect more pass, expect more heavy person, you know, whatever it is, they're going to tell us. and they know over years of doing this now that there's a level of trust that it's sacred and that it doesn't go any further and then obviously it's not going to be shared with anyone outside of the the call and uh it just helps us do our job injuries and starting lineups and whatnot there are some teams and some coaches who tell you nothing and it's not personal it's just it's their style it's their nature and they don't offer up anything outside of very coach speak it almost is more like a press conference right we're gonna we got to protect the ball we've got to do a better job on third down we got to play hard the other team is so good this is a huge challenge and then you hang up and you say i could have gotten that from their press conference so you get both ends of the spectrum and then obviously some degrees of difference in between but every team it's up to them so in regards to tom like i've said this now a few times like i have no problems with it however a team wants to handle their production meetings with me with him the situation is entirely up to them and however they see fit that they think protects their information they have every right to so if tom you know if they don't want to tell tom anything great if they feel comfortable and they don't think tom's going to take it and go anywhere with it which i assume me's not then they'll tell them more than they can so like it really isn't that big of a deal there's one or two nuggets from every production meeting on average that really ever make the

1:22:12Big Cat:broadcast it's about i guess being prepared like if you were if you were a tv announcer for the mexican football league while also serving as an owner of our osos our beloved osos correct um do you think that the other coaches would share things with you and be as open with you? That's a great question. I feel like we should test it. Yeah, we should test it. Would you call a game for the Mexican Football League? Can I do it in English? Habla Espanol? Yeah, I think so. No habla Espanol. Just be like, bueno. Puerto Urrano. Quarterback. And then just never come back. Los Osos están bueno. A football.

1:22:52I could just say that over and over and over again.

1:22:54Big Cat:Yeah, malo. Yeah. Interception. Malo. Oh, no. Goal. Yeah, goal. Yeah, hit him with a goal. You've already said more words in Spanish than I know. So you guys, maybe you should do it, and I'll just be like the sidekick. Okay, I like that. We'll do it.

1:23:09PFT Commenter:Sunday, Ravens Chiefs. Whoever loses that game, should we be concerned? Yeah, I mean, now we're starting to get into, you know, the first couple weeks of the season, I think everyone jumps to conclusions and everyone jumps to just try to, you know, either crown the team who they think is the best, and then they let us down or they try to, you know, all but, you know, toss a team to the side and they end up getting hot. I think we've done that to the Chiefs multiple years over time. And they always seem down the stretch to find their way and show up in the playoffs and win playoff games no one gives them a chance to.

1:23:44And next thing you know, they're in the Super Bowl and win or lose the Super Bowl. So I feel like we've tried to do this to the Chiefs before. We all need to learn our lesson to like give them the entire season to figure it out because all they really have to do nowadays is make the playoffs. And do you really want to play them in the playoffs, Andy Reid and Mahomes in a one game winner take all? Probably not. I still think Baltimore is a really good team. I've now seen them lose a couple games through the first three weeks that I said, how the hell did they lose those games? They played well offensively.

1:24:16The turnovers obviously have now happened twice. They've lost now two games with Derrick Henry having a big fumble down the stretch. I watched three quarters of last night's game. I still think they're really good. I think defensively they got some issues. I think defensively they got to tighten it up a little bit. But I think Lamar and that offense is still explosive. They didn't get a ton out of the run game last night with Derrick Henry. And then once he fumbled, I don't know if he even played again. I really try not to put indictments on teams after week four or five. When it's week 12, 14, and we really get into the holidays, then I think we'll really have a good picture of what teams are capable of, who can go far, who's kind of a flash in the pan.

1:25:02I think to make those decisions in even four games is just really hard.

1:25:08Big Cat:Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fair. And the Ravens last year, they kind of changed their identity, especially on defense, and they pulled it together. So they're capable of it. They started terribly on defense last year and then became one of the best defenses in football, give or take around the halfway point. So why are they having to do it again? There's a million reasons that this happens and coaches have to reinvent themselves. But it's not something we haven't seen at either team. We've seen the Chiefs start slow offensively and their defense be really good and lose some close ones. but you're like, all right, they're actually better than maybe we give them credit.

1:25:42And then Baltimore, same way. Their offense obviously has been scoring a lot of points. They just have that one turnover, and then obviously defensively, they're not nearly as good right now as they were the back half of last year.

1:25:54PFT Commenter:So a question about the fumbles. Do you have – this is a fun Greg Olson trivia question. How many fumbles did you have in your career? I'm going to answer your question. I've got to add them up in my head. But I want to add my own answer to a question you didn't ask me. Okay. My most embarrassing worst NFL game of my entire life, ironically, I was playing for the Bears. We were playing against the Carolina Panthers, which was odd because I ended up getting traded there. And my second year, so this was like 2008, we were in Carolina. I had two passes thrown to me, caught them both, fumbled them both, lost both fumbles, and we lost the game.

1:26:40That was probably the low of my lows. Okay. So thank you I got it out of the way early. So I had two fumbles. I would say in my 14 years I had six.

1:26:53PFT Commenter:You had – so here's the crazy part about your career. You had seven fumbles, but you are net only down one because you recovered six. That's pretty crazy. Well, off the top of my head. There's a year where you didn't fumble in 09. You didn't fumble, but you recovered two. Oh, I recovered other people's fumbles. Yeah, so you're only net down one. Yeah, so I had a great career. Yeah, that's incredible. It's like a plus minus. I thought you meant I recovered six of my own. No, you recovered other people's fumbles. Oh, yeah. See, when you recover other people's fumbles, it's like your fumbles never happen.

1:27:30PFT Commenter:Yeah, so you only have one fumble in your career. In 14 years, a minus one in the turnover battle. It's pretty good. So my question, though, is what do you do if you – I don't think Derrick Henry has fumble-itis, but what happens after you have three games to start the season, three fumbles? Is it as simple as going old school and just walking around with the football all day? Well, if you're someone other than Derrick Henry, your playing time probably goes down pretty significantly. I don't imagine. If I was Derrick Henry's coach, if I was Harbaugh, I would not alter his touches. He's Derrick Henry.

1:28:04He's been doing this for a long time. He's one of the best backs we've ever seen. So, like, I'm not going to overcorrect and just, like, remove him from the game. I think the defense would say, sure, have your non-fumble running back. We don't have to tackle Derrick Henry. So, I don't want to do the defense any favors by taking carries out of his hand. I think a lot of the times it becomes mental. And what you don't want, especially for a guy like Derrick Henry, is where you see these guys and they're so worried about ball security and their two hands and their cup in the wrist and they're running so tight that they're not nearly as effective as a runner where the fear of fumbling almost makes them unaffected.

1:28:43Because their only hope is, you can tackle me, knock me down. I'm not going to try to stiff arm you. I'm not going to try to really be aggressive running through contact because at the end of the play, the only thing I care about for the next couple of weeks is that I don't fumble again. You can't have that. You can't have that as you're running back. It doesn't matter who you are. So I think it's business as usual. I think it's one of those things. If you you over focus on it, you can almost make it worse. I don't think he needs to be out there with a thousand bungee cords on a ball. I think he's got to do his normal ball security drills, his normal running back individual drills.

1:29:19I don't think they need to talk about it a lot. I don't think you want to continue to draw attention. This is something that needs to be flushed from his head. It's almost like the yips. Get it out of his head, and the more you talk and emphasize it, it almost gets worse.

1:29:35PFT Commenter:We also were saying that not all fumbles are created equally. like the Aiden Hutchinson made an incredible play where it's like, I think 99 % of running backs fumble in that situation where you get a perfect punch on a ball.

1:29:47Big Cat:I think that running scared though and running thinking about fumbling, that would probably be appropriate for that Ed Oliver fumble. Yeah. Because that was a different situation. You have a lead in that circumstance and you're just trying to kill the clock. But yeah, you're right. I agree with you. I feel like if you were to just constantly be worried about fumbling the ball, then you take away everything that made Derek Henry a great running back to begin with. And then nobody's happy. Yeah. And then, and then whether you fumble or not, you're not nearly as impactful on the game and, and then you're not moving the needle.

1:30:19So I, it's a very fine, like that kind of stuff, like the mental side of failure in sports, whether it's the guy who can't get a hit and he's in a 10 game slump or the guy who can't buy a free throw or he can't make a layup. and like we've all been there and it's hard to get through the mental side of it and it's not because of where his hand is on the ball and you know everyone's going to give him a thousand pointers the point's got to be up it's got to be against your chest it can't be disconnected cup your wrist in traffic to like there's all these like coaching points which are all valid and it all has to be emphasized but really at the end of the day he's been doing this his entire life you got to just be Derek Henry continue to run people over run physical and after a game or two where you get 20 carries and you don't put one on the ground it gets out of your head and

1:31:08Big Cat:you move on yeah you brought up the yips is it possible for a receiver to have the yips because we saw Marvin Harrison Jr. and then we saw Brian Thomas Jr. all the juniors have the yips right now it seems like what is that like yeah I mean there's times and again I I always feel for these guys because I always put myself in their shoes. Like it's so easy, especially as a commentator or just right now shooting the shit with you guys. Like it's so easy to be like, it's not that hard. Catch the ball. Don't fumble. Like I've been there and there was some games. Thankfully, I didn't have a ton of issues with drops in my career, but I'll be honest.

1:31:46There were games were going into the game based on what happened in practice or just a million factors where you into the game and you're like I'm not seeing it great like I'm just not tracking it great and I'm not feeling it I don't see it and like you're like holy shit I hope I don't have a bunch of drops like it is a real mental battle and then there's other games where you're feeling so comfortable you could throw the ball behind your head and you knew you were going to catch it like that's real and I think any player especially if you've played for a long time goes through those ups and downs of like that internal mental battle of your confidence and catching is the yips fumbling is the yips quarterbacks who are gun shy because they've thrown a lot of interceptions like all of a sudden that ball is just a little bit later and they turn down windows and they don't want to push the ball and it turns into check down charlie they're taking sacks like that's all mental and um it's real like that is real and i don't give a shit how good you are there are periods of everybody's career that they go through that uncertainty and they're questioning themselves.

1:32:48And you better learn as a young player how to work yourself through it. I'll that my second year fumbling that game. That changed my entire career because I was like, I refuse to let this happen again. Like that shit hurts like that is bad.

1:33:03PFT Commenter:Yeah. What about what about the team to start? Oh, and three. Like, where are they at mentally? What do you like? Because that's it kind of goes on the same thing. the yips a team-wide where it's like football is a really hard sport to play and if you're 0-3 and you got to get back up on a Sunday and you're looking around you're like even I saw the comments Michael Pittman made after the Colts beat the Titans he said he could see the Titans didn't have that bounce that juice pre-game what happens in the locker room when you have a slow start to a season and how do you correct it well that's where you really start testing your leadership your locker room, what types of guys you got, what types of leaders you have in the coaching staff.

1:33:45Everyone always has good culture when you're winning. And there's great energy and every coach is great and every relationship in the locker room and every coach player relationship, everything's fine and dandy. Winning cures everything. All of a sudden now you start getting tested by losing, especially if you're 0-3 now entering your fourth game of the season, you haven't gotten a win. And all of a sudden now you start pressing and everything becomes instead of focusing on, hey, let's have a great Wednesday meeting. Let's really have a good first and second down install. Let's have a great focused walkthrough.

1:34:17Hey guys, let's have a great weight room session. Like whatever Wednesday calls for, the good teams have the ability to be like, hey, let's just worry about the next. But all the teams that have lost are thinking is we got to do something to get a win. How do we get a win? We got to do something to get a win. And they're putting the cart so far before the horse where you're not going to get a win if you get a shitty Wednesday blitz period and you're not going to get a win if you guys don't have a good workout and you guys don't attack their rehab and you have guys who mispractice and the 500 things that go on between the end of the day a game and the following week's game there's five million boxes to check and if you don't check them in the right sequence you're not gonna find a win because there's no luck there's no there's no easy wins in this league so it's so cliche when these coaches and these players and they get up there and they talk about one week at a time and all this shit we all laugh about but for the teams that stink and for the teams that are oh and three it is even more critical that they only focus on like literally what they're doing in the given moment because if they're so consumed with we need to win the coach is going to get fired they're going to bench the quarterback who's going to lose their job once that creeps in and you got player only meetings and guys talking stupid shit and press conferences like you're done right your season's over you might as well pack your shit up and go home

1:35:39Big Cat:yeah having a players only meeting after the first week for the dolphins that that to me feels a little bit early like what are you going to accomplish in that yeah we used to have a saying you know we used to joke about it but like once you once you start having players only meetings people should start packing their shit up yeah because somebody's gonna get fired yeah and i i

1:35:56PFT Commenter:also like on the flip side when you i love the videos of the locker room after a win because it is so hard to win in the NFL how this is a very dumb question but I sometimes fantasize about it how sick was it Sunday night after you win a football game was so sick what would you eat for dinner uh well if it was an away game all right so that's a good question so it really varied home games when we were young like home games in Chicago so my last year in Chicago we were really good that 2010 year we went to the nfc championship yeah so like we were young we had no kids we were downtown so after a home game um you know especially we you know we won a playoff game against seattle we won a monday night we won a either a monday or a sunday night game against the packers like after those big home games right like you're going out to dinner you're at joe's stone crab you walk into joe's and like people are giving you a round of applause like the whole city you know just rallies around so a lot of those really cool moments after wins in the locker room and then with your you know small group of buddies that you would go out with and your family and whatnot um you know as we got into like having kids like my highlight after a home win would be like let's drive through mcdonald's and just eat like a 20 chicken nugget and a hot fry and a coke and just take a deep breath so like as at different stages of your life there's different like pleasures like you know when you're young in chicago you want to go out to a bar you want to go out to dinner when you're a married dad with three toddlers at home picking up a mcdonald's drive-thru and going to sit on the couch and watch the sunday night game after you just had a touchdown and won like it doesn't get any better than oh that's the best that does sound great what

1:37:37Big Cat:was the best time of day to get a win when you were young in chicago was it like if you win the early game then you've got the entire afternoon and evening in front of you or was it winning like a Monday night football game. Yeah, so I think when you're young, you wanted to win the earlier game because then you could go out, like you could go to dinner, you can go to the bar, you can go hang out Sunday night downtown knowing that you had meetings Monday morning, but it wasn't going to be anything crazy. When Lovey was the coach, when we won, well, he was my only coach. So I guess when I was in Chicago, if you won, it was mandatory victory Monday.

1:38:07So we didn't even have anything official on Monday. So if you did go in, you win it on your own and it was, you know, it was.

1:38:14PFT Commenter:Oh, I'd go in every Monday if I won. Just to be like, that was awesome. Yeah, you go in, but it's just not mandatory. You have to meet with your coach. You don't have to do anything official.

1:38:25Big Cat:Did you ever have a teammate that – we were speculating that when the Eagles won this last weekend that Jalen Hurts was going to be like, hey, nobody here should treat this like a win. We're going into work on Monday. Were none of you guys going to tell me that I had tissue on my beard? Oh, I thought you were doing cocaine. Yeah, I didn't notice it. You should have told me. So I blew my nose before I came on here and I just shaved. Oh, no. I thought it was light.

1:38:45PFT Commenter:But that's actually good because then it will be tissue gate and no longer you look like an ump. Yeah. Well, thanks for telling me, guys. I didn't notice. I honestly didn't notice. I get lost in your blue eyes. What was the question?

1:38:58Big Cat:It was about Jalen Hurts. So, like, him after that game, we were saying that he was probably telling his teammates, no one should treat this like a win. Let's all go to work on Monday, even if coach was, like, going to give him off Monday. Did you ever have a teammate that was like, hey, I know he said we don't have to come into work victory Monday, but we're going to do it. And then did everybody secretly hate that guy for making everybody go to work? Yeah. It's like the super try hard guy. Yeah. Yeah. You know, in the locker room after the coach gives the speech about like, Hey, great wins, wins are wins.

1:39:27Proud of you guys. You earned it. Doesn't always have to be perfect. We got a lot of work to do. And then he's like, hold on coach. It's not about the coaches. We got to be better. The coaches are doing a great job. They're putting it. And everyone's looking around like, shut the fuck up.

1:39:40PFT Commenter:Yeah. We won. There's those guys. Those guys exist. I think certain guys on the team can get away with it because they obviously have the credibility. When they say, hey, we're going to come in and we're going to watch film on our off day. If it's Jalen Hurts, if it's the right guy, guys go, you're right. We probably need to come in and get our shit tightened up and do it better. I had no problems when those guys did it. The guys that were just really good and every day they battled their ass off and they were super hard workers. Those guys you'd respect and move on. When you knew it was the try-hard guy and it was the guy that was just doing it because everyone was standing around, that's the guy when everyone would roll their eyes and be like, you just go over there and relax.

1:40:24We'll take care of this.

1:40:25Big Cat:Yeah, that was the guy that got really carried away with hazing. It's like, okay. We know this guy's role. He was snapping towels in the high school locker room. I had a question for you about the Bills because we love the Bills, love Josh Allen. They seem to be maybe the best team in the NFL right now. Should we be looking at their wide receiver situation as a weakness or should we be looking at as a strength? The fact that they don't have like one guy that you count on to take over a game. They've got a few different guys that they spread around to. Which side of the optimism, pessimism coin should we be looking at?

1:41:02I think it's a great question. Great question. It's a really good question because I've actually asked that question to coaches. see this is where you guys are so good because you bring it back to production that was a great

1:41:14Big Cat:question by you when you asked that question yeah yeah to the coaches yeah good great question but my only question was as good as because you asked a better question the better so i asked matt lafleur this exact question i said so we had davante adams when obviously in green bay and when you have a guy like davante adams you'd be crazy not to find every way humanly possible to get him the ball and obviously he moves on and they have all these young wide receivers they're talented they're young they're unproven but you don't have that like clear cut number one so my that was my exact question to him is i've so i've asked that to the floor i've asked it to kevin o 'connell like how hard is it to get justin jefferson the ball but then you look at the other side of the coin with like a bills guy i think every coach would say yes i want justin jefferson yes i want jamar chase yes i want davante adams and all these marquee guys Everyone wants one of those guys.

1:42:06It's easier said than done. But there is an element, especially for a quarterback, where you don't have to worry about feeding one mouth. You don't have to worry about that one guy not having a target until the third quarter and body language changes and there's passive aggressives. And we've seen this play out on sidelines for as long as the NFL has been in existence. That's real. Like coaches feel it. Coordinators feel it. Quarterbacks feel it. and they and then you can start pressing so i've always thought if you don't have like the marquee marquee marquee guy like the dude dude having a bunch of really good solid reliable any guy at any moment could take the game over make the big third down make the big touchdown i actually think is easier on everybody i don't want three number five receivers like that doesn't help me but if I have like two number twos and like a really good role player number three, like with Josh Allen as my quarterback is the obvious counterpoint.

1:43:08Like if I have that, I'm feeling pretty good.

1:43:11PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, in their offensive line is great. So like take us in 2015, our best year that we had in 15, the year we went to the Superbowl, we didn't really have a number one receiver right like I was our leading receiver as a tight end but like for Cam and for our offense every game that we came in like there was a game where Teddy Ginn would go bananas and then there were games you know we beat Seattle only because Jericho Cotterie makes like a sick third and short grab to keep the drive into two minute going and Philly Brown would pop off in the NFC championship and have a 75 yard touchdown and then I would have a big game and then the running Like, you never really had to say, if we don't throw him the ball, we're going to stink and he's going to lose his shit.

1:44:01Like, we never had any of that. Like, I think for a lot of quarterbacks, it's easier to play that way depending on the personalities in the room.

1:44:10Big Cat:Yeah. And it seems like they've got good wide receivers. And their offensive line is incredible. I'm not saying that they don't have good wide receivers. They do, but they don't have, like, the Stephon Diggs that they used to have. I feel like he was that prime example of a guy that if you don't get him the ball, he might mentally check out a little bit. Yeah, and there's a lot of them. It's a very common personality. And I don't mean it as a negative. These guys, these top-tier receivers, they are top-tier receivers for a reason. Their mentality is, I'm the best dude on the field. You got to throw me the ball.

1:44:41Get me involved. And that's all part of the deal. We all understood that, and we were happy that they were in our huddle.

1:44:47PFT Commenter:Yeah. Like, that's the reality. So if you can have just a deep, good, solid, but still talented core, but you don't have the elite Justin Jefferson type guy, we've seen it time and time again. You can still be one of the best offenses in football, and then you throw in the best player in football, and Josh Allen is the one that has the ball in his hand on every play, spitting it around. It's more than good enough to win with, and obviously the Bills have won a bazillion games. Yeah. What's the one team we're not talking enough about three weeks into the season? So who? I don't know. Tell me who you guys are talking a lot about.

1:45:24Tell me who like your Chargers.

1:45:26PFT Commenter:It feels like the Chargers. You could do good or bad. Chargers, obviously very good. Are we talking enough about the Broncos? Are they actually in trouble? Something like that. I don't know. I mean, Chargers was the first one that popped in my mind. I just didn't know if they spent a lot of time. I feel like now people talk more about the Chargers, not because of their record. Obviously, they're good. But like Herbert's playing out of his mind and Harbaugh brings a lot more attention and a lot more credibility and just gets a lot more eyeballs and attention. So they were like my first instinct when people say like, all right, especially in the AFC where it's like Buffalo, Baltimore, you know, all the Kansas, the Chiefs, like all the usual suspects.

1:46:08but like this year does feel like the year that the chargers enter like, okay, are we now adding another top tier team to the AFC that it's no longer Buffalo, Kansas city and, and Baltimore, Buffalo and Kansas city is like the clear three headed monster of the AFC. Again, it's three weeks, but I feel like this is the year that the chargers now enter that conversation.

1:46:32PFT Commenter:I agree with that. What about the Seahawks? You called the Seahawks game week one, are the Seahawks good there? We're going to watch them on Thursday Night Football. I think their defense is really good. I don't know – I don't fully know their offense yet because even that game against the Saints, like they didn't even – Sam Darnold was good, but it wasn't like he was in game pressure situations. It was such an avalanche that they did on the Saints. Yeah. And, again, I saw them in that week one against the 49ers. I'll tell you a team that I have a lot of respect for is the 49ers. Yeah. The fact that they're 3-0.

1:47:01Now, do I think – listen, McCaffrey being healthy, he's – McCaffrey, he's sick. you know they think they're gonna get Purdy back they'll get Iuke back at some point but like how many of these injuries can they weather yeah right now they lose Bosa they've already been out with Kittle and and Purdy for the last couple weeks hopefully Kittle's back here soon so if they can continue to find ways to win they'll get back these guys with the exception of Bosa I think the fact that they're 3-0 is pretty remarkable yeah yeah Mac Jones doing a pretty

1:47:34PFT Commenter:good job. I mean, it's pretty impressive that they've been able to keep that thing afloat. Going into the season, they were banged up and then they lose in week one. They lose Kittle and then Purdy and Kittle don't play since. And now obviously Bosa. So I think they're pretty impressive to ask about. Now I saw them play Seattle and they ended up pulling that game out. There were times in that game where I was like, Seattle's for real. Like this defense is talented. They're good at all three levels. They might not have like a superstar superstar um Leonard Williams is probably a superstar on the defensive line but they're just like really good at all three levels um the Seahawks offensively that day they were just okay I think they've played better in the last two weeks since I saw them last I like Sam um I think he's a good fit with with a Kubiak system that he's bringing in is kind of very similar to what he did in Minnesota with Kevin O 'Connell um is anybody a better quarterback coach than kevin o 'connell it's hard to i mean like maybe you're a veteran mcveigh yeah i mean again i'm not like mcveigh sick shanahan i mean there's a million good coaches but yeah what he has done with veteran quarterbacks his last three in a row he got kirk cousins paid a bazillion dollars off of an injury obviously what he did last year with sam and now granted it's a small sample size with with Carson White but like can he do it with Desmond Ritter that's the big thing they signed him I think he's gonna try to like go for the moonshot and be like watch this guys now he's just showing off yeah yeah yeah it's like a foster home for dogs for older dogs

1:49:10Big Cat:yeah until they and I will find this quarterback his forever home yeah he's getting guys paid

1:49:16PFT Commenter:um Greg this has been awesome I got one last question for you it's a rowback question rho B-A-C-K dot com promo code take 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. What game are you on Sunday? Orioles, Yankees, White Sox Nationals. What game are you doing Sunday? I'm actually in Ireland. Oh. At 930 Eastern. Whoa. Cricket? 830 Central doing the Minnesota Vikings and the Pittsburgh Steelers from Dublin, Ireland. Oh, boy. Body clock issue.

1:49:49Big Cat:Yeah, what's your travel schedule? I know we make a big deal of that. Are you flying out earlier in the week or are you flying out late? Flying out Thursday. I'm going to try to get on local time. So I'm flying out Thursday. I fly from Charlotte. Going to connect through Boston and then go direct Boston. So I get in like Friday morning at 5 a.m. Dublin, like local Dublin time. I have no idea like how time zones work. I'm horrible at it. They might be like sit. I hate to say this. every time I say six or seven, my kids like look at me funny. I have no idea how many hours ahead it is. But I land 5 a.m.

1:50:26local time. I'm going to try to power through the day, get on local time. And I'm excited now.

1:50:33PFT Commenter:I've never been there before. Have you guys ever been to Ireland? I have. It's incredible. It's awesome. What do I got to do? What should I do? Drink a Guinness. Drink a lot of beer. The Guinness is better in Ireland. Can I tell you guys something that is probably going to be bigger than sport coat gate, umpire gate and all my other tissue gate tissue that's just I don't know if that's a gate that's just bad friends not telling me again you have incredible blue eyes I don't know what you want me to do I'm staring at them okay thank you I'll take that yeah um and I'm this is probably not going to go over I've never drank a Guinness in my life okay so

1:51:08Big Cat:you gotta have it gotta have it it's good it's like everyone keeps telling me that I need to have one because it's so much better than American Guinness and I keep just saying like I don't even know what American Guinness tastes like. So I feel like I got to have... Yeah, go drink a Guinness. Here's my question. Should I have an American Guinness before I go? Yes, you should. You should go to the store. Or should I let my first ever Guinness be an original? No, you should go into like a shitty bar. And then if they have Guinness, be like, I'll have one Guinness, please. That way you get a baseline for Guinness.

1:51:35Big Cat:And then you go over to Ireland and then you can come back and be like, oh, it's so much better over in Ireland. Do that. You don't even know. Do that. That's fair. That's good advice. You'll have a great time over there. You should actually wear like, you should go full Irish dress in the booth, put on the scally cap, maybe like a nice wool vest over a plaid undershirt. That'd be sick. Yeah, really play it up.

1:51:55PFT Commenter:That'd be sick. I don't hate it. You look good. I don't hate it. By the way, we should mention - What would I get made fun of by the bar? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're setting you up. Which is pretty much the only reason to do it. Yeah. Right. Let us have something to talk about. By the way, you're wearing the hat right now. You think it's your podcast. I went on it. It was so much fun. everyone should go listen to it. Greg interviews different people talking about being a dad, a mom, kids playing sports. It was really fun. I enjoyed the hell out of it. And I had like, I got bonus points.

1:52:25PFT Commenter:People were like, my wife was like, oh, that was a good interview. I was like, thanks. Thank you for listening. Awesome. Well, I can't thank you enough for coming on, dude. Obviously your audience and your personality and everyone loves you. And it was a huge, it was a huge boost for us so as i texted you and as we i've said to you a thousand times i owe you and i appreciate you coming on dude it was a huge you could pay me back you want to pay me back yeah what do i gotta do scally cap sunday morning scally yeah how seriously do you take could i have a razor be a peeky blinder uh-huh oh just think about now you got my brain moving yeah i feel like Just think about it.

1:53:06Yeah, like, do I get into character? Okay.

1:53:08Big Cat:Do it with an Irish accent the whole game. What you could do is you could also wear a kilt, and nobody would know. That's true. It'd be underneath the... Is a kilt Scottish or Irish? Scottish. They do it in Ireland, too, though. Yeah. All the same thing. You can do that in Ireland.

1:53:21PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:53:22Big Cat:Got it. They've got regalia. Bagpipes. Play some bagpipes. Yeah. That's Irish. Or just do the job drunk. You can be drunk on the air in Ireland. Yeah. I think it's mandatory. Can I have a Guinness? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, you should. yes those are that's a you're allowed in overseas the rules don't apply right exactly it's acceptable exactly um also congrats on the you being back i was waiting thank you you guys are really good congrats to me as well yeah um weird schedule though for them they go bye week florida state

1:53:56PFT Commenter:bye week yeah that's good rest the boys up great for you i don't know man i i always worry like when a team's rolling having too much like I'm good with a bye week before Florida State it just makes me nervous that they're gonna have to go bye week and then get back rolling against Florida State all right fine well what but then they got to go like bye week again and then I think they play like five ACC games in a row to follow that second bye week so I mean they're awesome Mario Cristobal I've known since I was a kid that's my guy love him text with him all the time like super happy for him. I just hope that we just make it to the college football playoffs.

1:54:35I'm dying to go to a college football playoff game, and I've been waiting for Miami to make it.

1:54:39Big Cat:I think you will. I bet on the U to win the national championship. I think that they can. Oh, I think so, too. I might be wrong, but I feel like if there's one coach that's going to be able to handle bi-week, game, bi-week, it's probably Mario Cristobal.

1:54:52PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:54:53Big Cat:He's not going to let them take a break. He's going to be in their face. He's going to remind them. He's the good guy to steward that. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. They're not going to be resting on their laurels very long. Yeah.

1:55:05PFT Commenter:All right, Greg, you're the best. We love having you on. We'll do it again later in the season. Good luck in Ireland, and let us know how that Guinness goes. I can't wait. I'll have a full report back. I'll talk to you guys when I get back. All right. Thanks, Greg. Bye.

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1:56:35PFT Commenter:Okay we now welcome on very very very Very special guests, it is The guys from Goose the band We got them all here We got Rick, Peter in studio, we got Trevor And Cotter in the booth Oh did you want to say something? You click it Just getting ready Have you guys ever done a podcast All four of you Yeah You have We don't do a lot of them but for sure I was going to say the flow I don't think we've ever interviewed four people all at once Four guys at once I've never done four guys a lot One time Hope you guys stretched So what's up guys good to see you You're in Chicago you're on tour How's the tour going let's start with the easy question Good

1:57:22Big Cat:Good answer Like family feud How much longer do you guys have on the road Two and a half weeks Oh that's not bad Is there a show that has been like The standout show From a musical point of view Has there been one that's like We are just now starting to like Get it together this sounds awesome We're at our peak right now Like on this tour I feel like there's been like One and a half shows on this tour so far Pretty much Do you guys ever walk out of a show and one of you is like, that was fucking awesome. And then another guy said, what are you talking about? I didn't feel it the same way. It's happened before.

1:57:59PFT Commenter:Do you talk about, because I read a story once that Trey, they made a rule for Fish that they don't talk about the show right after the show. Yeah. And they just kind of go in their own moment because they don't want to, if someone had a great show and someone didn't, they don't want to ruin that feeling. Do you guys have something similar? Or when you get off the stage, are you like, oh, we thought that was great or this needs work? Do you analyze it right away? There's no rules, you know, around it. I think if like the impetus is there to talk about it, then we do. Yeah. Or we'll just go and play Super Smash Brothers.

1:58:33PFT Commenter:Yeah. That works too. Yeah. How long does it take you guys to like come down from a show? I would imagine you don't sleep right away. No. It takes a bit. A couple hours. A couple hours. Yeah.

1:58:43Big Cat:what's the uh what's the day-to-day like for you guys on a day where there's a show well it's pretty chill you know you kind of have you wake up they hopefully sleep in nicely get some good sleep and then just kind of have a few hours of the day and just do what you want we don't have a cream team i'll tell you that yeah i wish we had that yeah well no you're

1:59:03PFT Commenter:lactose intolerant and i was i apologize to you but then i basically coconut cream team yeah absolutely i was like i peter was like i can't have ice cream and then i was like i'm sorry about what i'm about to say but i don't believe in anything you say with lactose intolerance why don't you why don't you pick a cat wrong you gotta smell it to believe it yeah yeah exactly

1:59:24Big Cat:so when you say sleep in like how late are we talking about i don't know if you're lucky you get to noon yeah noon yeah woke up at 12 30 today there's there's a lot of you know i was up for a

1:59:34PFT Commenter:while earlier but yeah yeah um so you guys have a new album chain your dragon that was released what like three weeks ago awesome album uh i guess my question is how are you guys able to make really good albums as a jam band because that does it's not like you know you can't do it but you know the grateful dead they're not known for their albums fish isn't known for their albums you guys are able to make really awesome albums and then also really awesome shows what what is that how are you doing it well thank you loaded question but yeah no i i mean that like Like, I can't tell you how many times I've, I haven't, I don't just put on like Working Man's Dead or something.

2:00:13PFT Commenter:Like I put on a Grateful Dead show. And for you guys, I do both. Yeah. I mean, not trying to compare, but like, I, I think we just generally like making albums going to the studio. So it's just fun. And when, you know, we get to do that process, it's like a, it's kind of a blessing, you know? Yeah. Because we have to play a lot of shows and then it's nice when you actually take the time to work on the songs. and that's you know it's like the shows kind of just are always happening but when we get that time to go to studio it's really special yeah how long did this album take you guys to make we banged that one out pretty quick actually that was kind of part of the intention of it um this is you know compared to other projects we've done it was it was kind of like all right this this stuff wants to be a a band in the room kind of just banging it out so for all intents and purposes we knocked it out in like march of this year oh wow yeah so it is interesting when

2:01:03Big Cat:When you guys are songwriting and you think about writing something for the studio, do you also think about how that's going to translate into how you perform it live and the space that you're going to leave for yourselves to go on like the long improvisational runs inside of a song that might not have those in the studio? It used to be more of an afterthought. You know, the recording things in that way was kind of like an opportunity to leave that mentality behind and explore different aspects and approaches to things that we can't do live. but oddly enough now maybe it's you know kind of where we are now I'm not sure what it is but I'm finding myself thinking about that a lot more when we go to track something and just like it's just more present of thinking about how it's going to happen live yeah that's cool what about you guys in the booth how do you guys let's booth think about that yeah

2:01:50PFT Commenter:chime in booth the booth concurs yeah it's cool to like approach the record versions of songs in a way that's cool for the record and the live versions in a way that's cool for the live show yeah yeah like not we don't have to be a jam band in the studio it could just be a band and maybe do some things differently than we would live yeah and then live we're we're ripping the fucking crunchy jams that might be the answer to it right there because it is like like i said it's uh when you guys release an album i mean i've listened to chain your dragon like start to finish a few times and i don't i don't do that for other jam bands it's no knock on them but it just it doesn't translate as well studio to live show yeah and there's been times we've like you know gone to record songs that we've been playing live forever and we'll go into the studio and kind of revamp them and look at them in a different way yeah that's always cool

2:02:41Big Cat:to do do you guys have any songs that when you recorded them you kind of fell away from them and you're like yeah not my favorite but then as you start to play them live they almost get a second life and now you you really enjoy performing the songs live that you don't necessarily look back on and say that's a great studio track i don't think so i feel like maybe there's some some fans that maybe feel that way but i feel yeah generally not exactly there's this trend of like sometimes we put out a new single or new song or something and i don't want to play it okay kind of like you know yeah like we want you to play a new record no fuck that yeah yeah i don't know and then and then eventually you come around and it's like all right let's do that

2:03:20PFT Commenter:How does the set list come together every night? Do you guys, are you guys setting up, like, before you go out there, you're like, this is what we want to do tonight. We want to change it up this way. Because that is one of the best parts about a jam band. What you guys do is that every night's different, which probably is a little cumbersome, just that, where you're like, we played that last night. Can't play it tonight. But how do you guys, like, work, figure out what the show's going to be? Yeah. Various aspects of the equation. Like, how does it start? Do you say, Rick, do you like, hey, we're going to play this tonight?

2:03:51Well, it's kind of starts with the stats, I would say, you know, on some level, like doing the. Yeah. I pull up some stats. The password work. Of like what you've played? Yeah. What we played where when last time we played it was stuff like that. Put together a list. That's kind of cool. And then we kind of go off of that list and, you know, create an order and kind of, you know, hone from there.

2:04:10Big Cat:Which stats are you looking at? Like if you see a song you haven't played in a while, then you're like, we're going to play this. we have to play this one tonight most it's like regional stuff like you know well we played last time in that city yeah okay yeah that's interesting give them a show that they truly haven't seen

2:04:23PFT Commenter:before try to shake it up yeah and then do you like stack some shows are there some nights where you're like yeah we're just gonna do this and we're and people are gonna go nuts for this like you like no you just know like hey we're gonna play these dogs yeah we need yeah we throw down yeah we're gonna like tonight's gonna be the night yeah for sure that's pretty cool But also, you never know what night's going to be the night in reality because you can stack a set list and go out there and just it's not happening. Right. On the night when it's really the night, it could be all your worst shit and it's still going to go hard.

2:04:58PFT Commenter:Okay, so off that question, I've always wondered this because what you guys do is very, very hard and Jam Band's going out every night playing a different set list. on a given tour let's say there's 20 20 stops on a tour how many of those 20 are you like holy shit that was like 10 out of 10 we were in the zone it ranges from tour tour for sure yeah it's you know i think there's there's like uh some tours you know thinking about it in like the grander thing you know perspective is kind of interesting you know some tours you're just like deep more in the pocket than others you know yeah yeah but can you guys feel when you hit the zone like on stage you're like oh this is how quickly into a show are you like yep this is going to be one of those nights yeah sometimes it's right out of the gate sometimes you're like out of the gate at least personally speaking i can only speak for myself but like you're you know you get in there and it's like oh yeah we're good hose is active here and then you know by the end of first set or into the second set it's gone like you know you lose it or sometimes it's the other way around It starts off rough and you find it second set, whatever.

2:06:05You know, it's all of it.

2:06:07PFT Commenter:It's got to be an incredible feeling when you do find it, I would imagine. I mean, the crowd, like going to a bunch of fish and dead concerts in my life, like when you do feel like they are locked in, it's like there's nothing better. I would imagine that you have that feeling on stage.

2:06:22Big Cat:Yeah, when things are clicking, it definitely feels good, for sure. The crowd energy plays a big role, too, especially in the jam band scene. yeah it's like yeah kind of an intangible thing but sometimes i feel like the crowd's bringing the energy right off the bat it kind of fires us up and we're all in it together yeah have you guys ever compared peaking like does your peaking feel different from your peaking and the best is when we all peak at the same time yeah yeah would you rather but isn't that the ideal situation it's like we all peaked during the second set you know like eight songs in we all shared that moment together isn't that nice yeah yeah that's the goal it definitely yeah it definitely varies a lot i think everyone's perspective you know is so dependent on like how much ice cream you had that

2:07:07PFT Commenter:day yeah yeah yeah wait so talking about the crowds when you guys started out i would like imagine you know you're playing to smaller crowds that has to be difficult was there a moment along the way where it like started clicking and the crowd started like knowing the songs or the crowd started being more reactive and you're like okay this is actually gonna work this is definitely at the uh the king's rook in erie pennsylvania that's when it all clicked oh that's where it all happened we just yeah we played a lot of like really bad shows but so was there a moment though where it like kind of flipped where uh when whatever year it was like oh shit yeah there was like a moment in 2018 when it was yeah we we drove out we had like a tour in early 2018 um and we it was out to colorado and back basically and and on the way to colorado and on the way back from colorado we played in covington kentucky and um we really like you know this is kind of like the first taste of the fire we got this kid this one kid like saw we were on the on the schedule for this club the octave in covington kentucky and uh checked out our album and dug it and passed it around who was he had this like group of friends they call themselves flavor town okay um and they're just rowdy like you know it's basically cincinnati ohio they're they're just like it's rowdy you know group of friends they're great great people loved music yep and uh passed the record around so they like learned the songs we went and played this show at this club and thought it was going to be a shit show just like all of you know the gigs we did at that time and you know this crew was only maybe 10 15 of them but they like knew some of the songs they were singing along they were just throwing down bringing a ton of energy and we're like oh my god this is great and then so we went back like two or three weeks later after the colorado run and you know i guess word spread or something and that was kind of like the first i don't know a couple hundred people there maybe yeah a lot more people came out yeah and we we went back like three months later and did a two-night run that was just totally packed that's all shout out coming to

2:09:13Big Cat:kentucky yeah that's a great music kind of where the fire started first on board were you guys in the van living the van life at that oh yeah for sure was that what was the first vehicle that you guys took on tour do you remember it i mean like a 43 50 yeah yeah van life i kind of miss van life we used to have well actually we were just talking about i have two vans yeah we were guys are vans we miss we would love to do like van life again yeah yeah period of time it's fun you you bond a little bit you go through the shared like the the bad experiences actually end up being some of the most fun experiences yeah you have that on the road come up with a lot of stupid ideas that are great yeah just the hours sitting together and like coming up with

2:09:50PFT Commenter:dumb shit yeah shared experiences yeah we've like we're not you know uh accomplished musician musicians like you guys but the podcast like we used to travel is like just four of us in a shitty van and now we have like an RV and a whole staff that goes with us and it definitely changes it a little bit. Definitely. Trevor got a CV radio installed in the van at one point. Oh hell yes. And we put out a one hour compilation of CV radio moments that we recorded on the road. Called it Nightshade.

2:10:22Big Cat:Talking to truckers and shit. Did you learn the lingo? What was your handle? It was Nightshade. really requesting a lot of radio checks it's like nightshade requesting check i think the antenna was kind of fucked up so we didn't really you know we got a couple bites dj quack quack dj quack quack quack that was coming like kind of near chicago i think yeah yeah it's real out there dj quack quack we know we know you i love us some of whatever that guy was having is there is there a uh a venue or a city that you guys really want to play at that you haven't played yet sphere i told you guys got it here would be sick i don't know i just like playing outside in like a field you know yeah yeah we were just at the gorge in washington and that was that's definitely

2:11:11PFT Commenter:my new favorite venue you like outdoor concerts more than indoor i like arenas too i mean you know it's good theater it's they're all cool they all they're different challenges and and you know aspects of why they're dope yeah i mean a hockey arena is pretty like a like a kind of rundown hockey arena yeah yeah that's that is awesome what do you guys this might be a tough question but uh jam band fans there's a lot of gatekeeping have you guys do you guys consciously think about like there's a lot of well goose isn't fish and fish isn't dead and like you know oh they want to be fish and like do you guys do you not even pay attention to that i think it's the lamest thing ever but it does happen i mean it's like the same as like sports fans yeah they get really passionate about their team and they're like the rest of these teams suck right but it's like you know at the end of the day they just love the sport so yeah some people are cool about it because they

2:12:03Big Cat:just love music and some people are like my team's the best and the other ones suck balls but it's

2:12:09PFT Commenter:like but all the teams are really good like that's the part like i always laughed when like like a fish fan would be like oh i wouldn't ever listen to the dead and it's like what why like trey loved the dead yeah you guys i assume loved the fish so it's like all these things linked to each other yeah it's cool that it keeps going and there's like this line that you can chart it's silly but i feel like it's just it shows how passionate the fans become especially because there's like stats like people have these special moments with jam bands where they're like i got my song yeah after going on this crazy journey in my van across the country and so it's become such a personal thing like they they wear the colors of their favorite band yeah so it's just because they're more passionate than your average music fan i think yeah i think if you have people

2:12:58Big Cat:that are like that it's it is a sign that the genre as a whole is doing pretty well yeah yeah if you get that fired up about yeah for sure so what would be um if you're not a fan of that genre in general what would be the gateway drug for people to get into goose if there's somebody out there that's listening that hasn't listened to your music yet just like a they're a fan of pop music what would be that gateway drug for you guys that's a good question that's probably you

2:13:22PFT Commenter:guys i was gonna answer because i so i obviously knew about you guys for a long time but it didn't i always think with with jam bands that like you can't force it either clicks or it doesn't and like so dead clicked for me when i was 13 years old fish was a little bit later and then you guys like i i would listen to some stuff i remember the first one i listened to was you guys doing uh uh the way it is with bruce hornsby awesome hell yeah awesome version and then like probably four or five months ago it finally clicked with you guys and it was it was uh arcadia with arcadia hunger site with trey and then it was hot tea and that was like and i was like oh fuck i get it i get it now like i get how awesome these guys are so i think that's kind of how it works with jam bits maybe i'm not wrong but it's like you hear one song live and you're just like yep now it all makes sense and then it just you just dive into everything i would i would guess it's it's different for everyone you know it could be like a you know different songs for any any person it's just you never know when those moments hit you they come to a show and someone walks out and be like that sucked you know nothing spoke to me i'm like all right and then you know someone the first half sucks and then something happens we play some song and for whatever reason that moment they're just like oh and then then you know you get a bug and the moment yeah and then you get curious and dig deeper and are more open in that and at that point you know do you guys have that song for fish or dead that it was like oh that's it i feel like i when i first started listening to fish when i was like 14 i was like this sucks yeah and then i my buddy brought me to a show and i was like holy shit this experience it was at fenway my first fish show and i had been there to see the socks a bunch as a kid and going there and seeing that scene i was like this is a wild time all these people are crazy selling drugs and sandwiches and stuff yeah it's flawless yeah it like the i don't know like the adventure and the like freak scene of it all just really appealed to me and then i immediately started liking their songs more just because i had a blast at the show you know yeah yeah for sure do you guys have one that you like it was like oh yeah that that clicks now it wasn't it wasn't one thing it was like uh it was a friend's older brothers that were yeah talking about it and it was like okay check that out and i got a live one and spun that on repeat and kind of you know i feel like things that have been the most impactful musically speaking for me are things that need to like decode over time yeah like that it took a minute for that to seep in but i it wasn't like i didn't dislike it out of the gate but it was kind of like whoa there's a whole there's a whole new world there's a lot going on here and it took a minute and there were there were definitely moments when there were like these uh these clicking moments of of like understanding the scope of of what was going on there yeah in various ways but it's also dvds like i got i got you know a bunch of dvds yeah at that time and i was sweet motel for sure yeah and then like the it festival i was there yeah i admittedly like i just love that era yeah i know it's and i was like a little getting close to the rails but um i i love the way they were playing it is like the jambans are a little intimidating to like get into it the beginning just because it's so deep and there's so many yeah shows and we and like it's almost like trying to figure out a way to get into like inside joke and you're just like how do i figure this all out a new language yeah right you like

2:16:48Big Cat:need a guide right a shaman that's too long away right that's i mean that's like such a valid thing the i mean talk about the dead that i think like uh going over a friend's house and pulling some bongs and then him being like this yeah and playing it and be like oh you know and having those moments that that's the stuff that speaks to you yeah the most the beauty of it when i like

2:17:10PFT Commenter:whenever anyone asks me like what's your favorite dead song i'm like dude it literally like changes every month because i'll hear a song from a show from 40 years ago and be like whoa okay i didn't like I didn't hear them ever do it this way and now like I'll listen to that and so that's the cool part where it's like I don't even know what my favorite song is week to week because it changes because it's like an ocean that you can just keep exploring so very much it's cool yeah when you

2:17:36Big Cat:guys uh when you guys play a show how quickly do you try to get that show mixed and put up so that people can listen to it at home almost like 30 minutes after that fast ideally so you you finish playing the show and then who mixes it afterwards well it's it's being mixed while we play right so we've got like a live stream going on for pretty much every show we do and that's going on nugs.net and it's like you can watch the video and then somebody's mixing the audio in real time and then right after the show it's just like cut up the audio and and like upload it yeah it's kind of the flow yeah that's pretty cool for your fans i we didn't when did you guys start doing that as opposed to like recording and then putting them up later it took some time in 2018 we were kind of more selective about it because no one knew who we were or gave a shit about what we were doing so we were kind of like trying to just you know put out a bunch of stuff and build and build a catalog on the internet and build like a presence and kind of our own little world there but we were definitely more selective about it in the beginning and then a certain point it just became everything yeah once we had like you know consistent recordings i think that was kind of like a big turning point yeah for 2018 we were mostly just like oh do you guys have this type of mix board we can record on okay great we will otherwise too bad you know when did we start rolling with our own it's like 2019 right beginning of the year yeah so we January we like yeah we built we built our own rack system where we were running our own monitors and and be able to record you know everything at that point um consistently that was that was a huge turning point for us yeah do you guys have a moment where it became a thing that you knew that you could be successful at like make a living at this is my career i'm gonna be in this band and we're gonna do well and you you kind of like when you're going for it you have to be naive enough to to i you know think that it could work that it can happen you know um but in retrospect you don't realize how naive you are going for it you know just being like yeah this is obviously this is what is what we're doing you know yeah we're gonna go for it and then and then you know like the the long you know you go and we were we were fortunate enough for it to work and to you know really so grateful for everything that it's i mean it's it's unreal honestly um but yeah just like looking back it's like wow we didn't we had no idea yeah we were getting ourselves into or like what how how much work it really would take you know i think you know it was like early 20s i was like yeah get a band together play like a couple festival sets we'll be good like that's it it's over you know it's like no just many many years of grinding yeah until you're like 15 years later like all right people talk about a big break but there's not there's usually not a big break there's usually like a slow steady build yeah that you're committed to and then doing it the hard way that's how you make sure that you have a long career if there is a band that has or an artist that has a big break it's like very easy for that person to fall off yeah because they don't have that groundwork that they've already built up to making it sustainable yeah and you

2:20:35PFT Commenter:Jam bands by nature, you're not going to have a one-hit wonder that played on the radio, so it's going to be a slower grind. Have you guys thought about how far away you are from taking a five-year hiatus and then coming back and being harder than ever? Probably pretty far. Okay, good. Good, good. Because everyone's got to do it, right? You guys got to break up for a few years, then you come back, and everyone's like, holy shit, they're better than ever. They found their love for it again. So we're far away from that moment. Yeah, definitely. Okay, good. yeah I think so okay all right pretty sure it's gonna happen one of you whoever whoever wants to come on the podcast that happens to tell your side of why you broke up oh god you want to be the first yeah yeah yeah but then again remember you're gonna come back better than yeah the comeback to us yeah I mean fish is like that they took a long time off where everyone's like is this over forever and now they're better than ever.

2:21:35PFT Commenter:Let's have the conversation. What's your favorite? No, let's stop.

2:21:38Big Cat:They are awesome. They're amazing. I've seen them a ton. Nothing will ever beat that Fenway show though. I mean the Fenway show is one of their first shows back for 3.0 in 09. So I've only seen the latest rendition of Fish. I didn't see them in the 90s.

2:21:54PFT Commenter:Do you think they were better in the 90s? I love the 90s sound. It's a little more visceral, crazy. They're more put together now. Someone said they're more like storytellers now, and they don't have that aggressive, youthful energy. Yeah. But it's all great. What was it like when you guys had Trey play with you? Like, that was, I mean, he's done it a couple times, right? But the 20, was it 2022 in New York? Yeah. Yeah, the tour. I mean, Radio City especially was really special. And that just kind of came out of nowhere. and it like that had to have been i mean it's not like he's knighting you guys but that does feel like a big moment for the band i would assume like it was wild yeah yeah i mean he's such like a kind gracious humble guy that when you hang out with him and you don't it's easy to forget how surreal that is and then there's moments where you're like wait this is how is this happening yeah how did that come together i mean i don't even know the radio city thing um yeah i honestly can't remember like i feel like he reached out do you remember yeah i mean yeah we talked about it we talked about time with management yeah trying to make something happen we knew he was a fan and listening to music and watching the streams yeah it wasn't like planned months in advance it was kind of like spur of the moment yeah he's gonna be yeah yeah I'm like, let's do it.

2:23:19PFT Commenter:None of that was on a microphone. But it was a cool story. No, basically the answer was that you guys knew he was a fan and it was kind of spur of the moment. Like, here we go. He was local. Yeah.

2:23:32Big Cat:Did you know he was going to stick around on that tour? Oh, we eventually planned the tour for later that year. He was just like, you mind if I just keep sitting in? Yeah, yeah. No, that night. Yeah, that night it was kind of like we had planned, talked about two songs or something. yeah like you want to just stay yeah you want to just hang out for a while sure all right great yeah he's gonna stay that's awesome it was amazing that's incredible and then yeah the tour was i mean i think his they did a tour with santana earlier early in their career and um you know santana kind of took them took him under his wing and took them under his wing and um that was a that was a really special experience for him i think and um he i think he wanted to pay that forward which is you know says a lot about who he is yeah um and you know also revisiting a lot of old like run down hockey arenas which was really sick yeah that'd be a lot of fun for him yeah was it a little intimidating you're like we're playing with trey just a little yeah did it make you better what did it make you better knowing that like hey trey's here i gotta i gotta bring it yeah i mean it's i don't know i i it's like that one of those things i try not to in the moment try not to think about it too much because then they'll just get deeper down the like you know imposter syndrome of it all yeah whatever but it's it's just like you just gotta you just gotta go show up and you know do it yeah did you ever catch yourself like asking trey like was that

2:24:56PFT Commenter:good did you like that because i definitely would if i were her shoes did you like that was that songs good for you too was that good papa please tell me yeah that was good that was good he imparted a lot of he had a lot of cool things to impart on us throughout that tour for sure what live show would you tell people to listen to if they were trying to go I'm sure you guys all have different answers but let's give the audience a live show they can pull up cause that is also fun like part of like being a fan of a jam band is like everyone has their favorite show everyone has their favorite moment so what would you guys say your personal is so that you can tell people to go listen to it of ours yeah i mean i would tell people to go watch the video on youtube of our show at msg okay that we just played yeah june okay all right that checks out i agree with that i don't you guys can't all answer that you got to give four different answers i um the one that always sticks out to me is philly last year at the man okay i mean that was my first tour with the band and that i had seen fish at that venue i think it was the first venue we played where i had seen fish there and i feel like like first set i was just a little nervous second set we came out and we were ripping i think we played two songs in the second set and i like the long jams like three what's the song you guys ever played i think it's like like 40 40 something minutes that's a that's a really fucking long song yeah all right so yeah that was 628 2024 you go find it yeah

2:26:36Big Cat:that's yeah yeah 628 and then 628 2025 wow oh interesting the garden oh so something about that date something about that date yeah grab your tickets for next year 628 628 when you guys uh

2:26:53PFT Commenter:When you guys get off the road, how in touch with each other are you? Are you guys living close to each other? Do you take some time off? Because that's always an interesting part of the band. You're together so intense. And then when you decompress, are you guys hanging out? Or are you just like, we need a break? We're not super local. Peter's in Brooklyn, Trev and I are in Connecticut, Cotter's in Burlington. Okay. But, I mean, we're together a lot. We're doing stuff a lot. Yeah. I think there's not a lot of downtime. Yeah.

2:27:25Big Cat:When it comes to a song that you guys start to cover, who typically brings that to the table? Like, hey, I think we should do this song. Is it anybody? I feel like it's usually Rick. That can be anyone. Yeah, but it could be anybody. So has there been a song that's been suggested where it's like, hey, we should try to work on this one, and you guys are like, I have no idea what we're going to do with that song, and it really came together, and it's like one that you're very proud of now? um there's a lot of i mean usually when you do a cover it's because you like it yeah right for for one reason or another there's like there's different ways into things i think we find there's different kind of categories or veins you could say of of covers we do um but a lot of it's just kind of you know random like we we ended the show we've done it before the what's up for non blondes yeah um we've ended the show with it last night with the mount joy guys and you know the day prior like we like i said we'd done it before but the day prior we were walking through the airport and it was on in the airport and i was like oh yeah that could that would that'd be a nice way to yeah right it might be the best sing-along song ever too it's yeah it's like stuff like that you know it was like a like a club once and you know kylie minogue came on it was like yeah i was like oh my god this song's hot it sounds a little like hurt it through the grapevine a little bit Yeah.

2:28:44Big Cat:Can't get you out of me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Moments, the same kind of thing I was talking about before with the, like, being shown dead songs with your buddy or whatever. It's personal experience and having your own emotional connection to certain things and then finding a way into it and a way that you can make it your own and put your own voice on it, you know? Yeah. When you're listening to new music, do you find yourself listening to bands that are similar to you or do you find yourself branching out and exploring something else? uh i mean it's different for all of us yeah i assume um you know i've i've i've listened to for a long time i've i've been into uh just like modern a lot more modern music for when i was younger i'd listen to a lot of older stuff you know old jazz and obviously the fish and dead thing was was huge and um like a lot of old jazz and otis redding and nina simone and you know west montgomery just a ton of different like older things and then at a certain point started listening to you know it started with fleet foxes um but i just kind of realizing there's this really transportive modern songwriting you know production stuff going on that i've that i got kind of taken with and i've just been super into that what about the guys in the booth you know um i kind of grew up listening to metal which is kind of a different you know vain and none all this but yeah try to listen to like all sorts of stuff like metal electronic music um i've been really digging this band men i trust currently um they're super dope but yeah in terms of like stuff that's similar to us for sure and then you know stuff all over the map as well i was a big zappa guy and still am uh-huh yeah and uh you know i think that kind of fueled my love for for fish too yeah but uh checked out you know now i'm i'm way more open like as i've gotten over older i've become less of a snob yeah and more just trying to find good music less judgmental usually goes the other way around yeah i don't know like i feel like i found these like things where i feel like i earned being a fan yeah like i had to like put the time in to like really understand what was going on because it's insane and now i just like i'm down with whatever and i think it's dumb to judge music agree other than whether you think it's good or bad and that's your opinion on it and whatever yeah but like there's a lot of great music in all kinds of genres i mean i'm like obsessed with julian lodge lately who's like a modern jazz guy which is pretty rare you know he's a young like really expressive jazz player and this dude Blake Mills I've been all about lately but yeah pretty much whatever I'm always

2:31:33PFT Commenter:looking for suggestions I like that what about you Peter um I'm having a pretty good fall because like a couple of my favorite bands are just doing albums right now so uh Parcel's just put out an album which is great love them uh Tame Impala's got a new album coming out so singles have been great um haim put out a new album that was like this past summer i love them um so yeah like mac demarco put out a new album so like a lot of my favorite artists are kind of just like putting

2:32:01Big Cat:out music right now which is great do you guys feel like this genre of music is ai proof good question it's a tough one it's a tough question no one's who knows where that's you know where that's yeah yeah it's safe the scope of where that's headed is i don't know if anyone's really very unknown it's crazy i i've been um in the like for you playlist that spotify puts out they've been giving me some bands that i've confirmed are ai and 100 like built for my algorithm whoa that's why and i liked some of the songs and it's scary because it's like oh shit they know exactly how to hit those parts of your brain but i do feel like with you know the longer more jam oriented stuff yeah the more complicated stuff it's going to be harder for a robot to synthesize that but maybe that's just for i mean i bet a robot a robot can definitely lay down some yeah but a robot an ai can never play a sick live show i hope you're daring

2:32:57PFT Commenter:oh my god this is not a challenge we're ai proof because we just get so many things wrong yeah we should make more mistakes yeah right you gotta fuck up yeah right your best your worst

2:33:13Big Cat:shows are actually yeah it's proof that you're human exactly so you should actually love the bad shows yeah for sure yeah i'd be like oh thank god we fucked up that one it's real man robots

2:33:23PFT Commenter:can't get us all right i got uh this has been awesome guys i got one last question roback question rhoback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts roback.com promo code take uh tires you're in it yeah that was pretty cool yeah what how did that happened because we are our we're friends with shane we're also like francis who works with us feidelberg who works us they were in it as well it seems like the funnest like shane just gets all his friends to just be in it so how did that happen like it was um there was uh you get the get off get a little off mic with this there's there's a friend of ours who um is a you know big big dead fan and uh got into us from we were going down to doing the mexico thing and became close with him and he works in the industry and kind of connected me with some people and kind of came in that way.

2:34:17PFT Commenter:Yeah. More acting in the future? Maybe. Yeah, we'll see. Kind of want to make some records right now. Yeah, that's fair. But yeah, I'm down. I had such a blast. Those guys are amazing. Yeah. So funny. Very funny. All right. Well, thank you, boys, for coming by. This has been awesome. Thanks for having us. We're all very pumped. Thank you. And I did invite you guys to, if you wanted to watch NFL Sunday with us, but I didn't really get any response from that. But you guys are welcome. I was pretty deep in the ice cream at the time. Yeah, you're welcome to come back. If you're here in Chicago for a few days, you're welcome to come back.

2:34:49PFT Commenter:Appreciate it. We do the gauntlet too on Monday if you wanted to. And more ice cream. Hell yeah. Peter, if you come back, I'll get you some of the whatever. What do you do? You just don't eat ice cream? No, man. Some of the best ice cream is dairy-free. That's so not true. That's a man boy. careful saying stuff you might be the first you don't even know dude you might be you don't know rock star that i wouldn't want to trade lives with no thank you oh man you're missing out i'm telling you right now i'll say though actually he used to make like we lived together a few years ago and he used to make dessert salad he had this massive bowl i think we even gave him his this bowl for his birthday yeah he would just fill it with like a pint of like ben and jerry's non-dairy and then just put a bunch of shit on top of it i know how to dessert man you have it easy for a lactose intolerant guy like imagine being lactose intolerant in the 70s sure nothing yeah i mean even when i became lactose intolerant there was like there was arctic zero and that was it yeah tasted like shit all kinds of stuff you became lactose intolerant yeah when i was 18 that proves that it's not real you don't just choose to not like ice cream anymore i think you just don't like taking a

2:36:06Big Cat:shit yeah that's what it is like we all do it yeah it doesn't feel good after you guys like

2:36:10PFT Commenter:do you think like when i eat five ice cream cones on a sunday yes i have diarrhea does that make me

2:36:15Big Cat:not at all no that makes me a fat fuck who can't stop himself from eating ice cream

2:36:23PFT Commenter:oh all right thanks boys thanks thanks for having us thanks appreciate it Okay, before we get to pardon your take, I wanted to talk to you about my favorite treat out there. It's Reese's with this perfect combination of chocolate and peanut butter. There's really nothing like a Reese's peanut butter cup. You can find Reese's peanut butter cups basically anywhere. And look at this. What do I got here? Oh, man, the caramel big cup. So not only is it a dynamic duo with chocolate and peanut butter, it's a dynamic duo with chocolate, peanut butter and caramel. the Reese's caramel cup the big cup I absolutely love these Reese's are my favorite uh little treat out there I probably one of these two of these a day and I got and guess what I'm living a very happy life because I love Reese's so shop Reese's peanut butter cups now at a store near you find wherever candy is sold okay boys let's wrap up the show great show pardon your take do you think How many people do you think were listening and they were going to correct us on the Russell Wilson thing and then they're going to get to the breaking moose?

2:37:33Big Cat:Good amount. Yeah, fair amount.

2:37:35PFT Commenter:Listen, you got to stay loose. You got to stay. We're always moving. We're always flexible. We're like water.

2:37:42Big Cat:What do you think Rusty's going to do now? Are they going to make him third string or are they going to make him backup?

2:37:47PFT Commenter:I think they've got to make him third string because you're basically saying he stinks.

2:37:51Big Cat:They said backup. Back up. Back up. So this is just Jameis Winston erasure.

2:37:56PFT Commenter:Yeah, this is bullshit. And I said you got to make up third string mostly because I'm biased and I want Jameis to play. Yeah.

2:38:01Big Cat:This is bullshit, though.

2:38:03PFT Commenter:Still. All right.

2:38:06Big Cat:Pardon your takes. I'm going to hammer Scadabo this weekend.

2:38:09PFT Commenter:If your groom's been whispered to you on the altar at your wedding that the Mavs traded Luka, how would you react? Parentheses, hypothetically, if you were a Mavs fan. Oof. That would be tough. Yeah. Yeah. I'd need a second to collect myself. That's a bad groomsman. I think you got to save that for after the vows are set. You can't drop a bomb in his ear right before.

2:38:32Big Cat:Yeah, although if you wait until afterwards, then you kind of ruin the whole vibe of how excited he already is. If you're the groom, what you got to do is you have to let the emotions flow, but then tell everybody it's because you're so emotional about getting married, and that's why you're crying. Max are we going to be groomsmen for you You guys aren't going to Come to my wedding

2:38:55PFT Commenter:You're not going to come That would be sick if we were just the five of us Were the groomsmen Your brothers just don't get it

2:39:02Big Cat:When the preacher says speak now or forever hold your peace I'm going to be like AJ Brown and Jalen Hurts okay

2:39:11PFT Commenter:I've been a groomsman At a bunch of weddings My favorite thing to do right before you go out Is just be like dude say the word we'll get the fuck out of here right now like we like i won't judge you we'll get in a car we'll get the fuck out of here we can just we can just pretend none of this happened is anyone taking you up on it no but it does lighten the mood yeah yeah it's good haha no i actually want to go through with this it would i don't know what i would do if someone took me up on it i'd like wait i was just kidding man fuck we got to do this what are you talking about we can't leave so maybe you can call my bluff max when we're groomsmen i think you got to keep that you got

2:39:46Big Cat:to keep that to yourself.

2:39:47PFT Commenter:I'm offended that you don't think we're going to. I mean, is it going to be a football weekend?

2:39:51Big Cat:Nope.

2:39:52PFT Commenter:We'll be there.

2:39:52Big Cat:You got to keep it to yourself if Luca is like in the moment. Make us groomsmen. It's travel though.

2:40:03PFT Commenter:I thought your wedding was going to be in the office. Yeah. Shit. Well, it's going to be we'll have a conversation. It's kind of like an all or nothing thing. We can't. Some of us can't skip. We could skip. You want to skip? Depends where it is. Okay. I'm leaning towards the Caribbean. The Caribbean. I'm in.

2:40:25Big Cat:Oh, no. Now we have to go. You would love to break some Joel Embiid news to Max. Oh, yeah. Wouldn't you?

2:40:32PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Hey, guys. What is the biggest what-if in sports that would have changed the entire landscape of what we know today? For me, it's the Bledsoe injury. Without Brady, Peyton dominates and becomes the GOAT. He becomes part owner of the Raiders and broadcasts for Fox. He sits in the booth with the headset and Hank thinks it's weird. Wait, he would become Tom Brady. Yeah, Peyton still would have been Peyton. He's saying he would have been the GOAT.

2:40:57Big Cat:Oh. I thought he was saying that Drew Bledsoe would have done all the things that Tom Brady did.

2:41:04PFT Commenter:No, he just said without Brady, Peyton dominates. Peyton dominates. So what was the beginning of the question? What's the biggest what if in sports?

2:41:14Big Cat:We can go the injury route. What if LeBron never took?

2:41:19PFT Commenter:The Ray Allen three.

2:41:21Big Cat:Derrick Rose injury. Yeah, RG three injury.

2:41:24PFT Commenter:Kendrick Perkins injury.

2:41:26Big Cat:Belichick. Jets. Oh, that's a good one. What if the Browns had kept Belichick? And Saban. Yeah, if LSU kept Saban. No, if the Browns had kept Belichick and Saban. But then they would have been coached the Ravens. Yeah, they would have been the Ravens. At the same time.

2:41:44PFT Commenter:Yeah. Good what ifs. Carson Wentz never got hurt. Well, speaking of Carson Wentz, good segue. My name's Michael, and here's my take. Carson Wentz is at the top of Mount Rushmore of edging. As a Colts fan, he edged me for an entire season, and he's done it to multiple fan bases. Is Carson Wentz the G-E-O-A-T?

2:42:05Big Cat:Greatest edger of all time?

2:42:08PFT Commenter:Did you feel edged?

2:42:09Big Cat:I never felt edged. I never felt edged. Not once. I never even came close to being edged.

2:42:16PFT Commenter:You believed in him for a little bit. I'm going to have to do some digging. You definitely got edged. You got edged.

2:42:22Big Cat:I'm going to have to do some digging. I think there's enough evidence. When Schefter teased, Schefter edged me with the Carson Wentz news. And he teased me with, oh, the commanders might sign Carson Wentz. And I was angry at him for that. So I was never. And then when we actually got him, then I flipped out because I didn't want him. And then, of course, like every sports fan, you have to lie to yourself and convince yourself of something. Get worked up about it because, hey, what if Carson Wentz makes me come? And it never even got close.

2:42:50PFT Commenter:Never got close.

2:42:51Big Cat:I faked it. I faked being edged by him.

2:42:53PFT Commenter:He is an edger, though. But I don't know if he still has it, the edge. I guess we'd have to ask the Vikings fans. We're going to have to see.

2:43:03Big Cat:He's a big shotgun guy, right? He shoots a lot of skeet. He might be an edger. Yeah.

2:43:08PFT Commenter:All right, last one. What's up, fellas? Big fan. To solve disputes about controversial calls, every ref in the major sports wears helmet slash hackhams. In the event of a closed controversial call, the first replay of the show is full speed officials point of view. That way we can at least see what they saw to make a call or a non-call.

2:43:27Big Cat:It's like the Axon body cams.

2:43:28PFT Commenter:Yeah. I don't know if this changes anything because don't we have better views?

2:43:33Big Cat:Yeah, we have better views. And none of the ump cams really work. They're all jiggly. and when they show a POV review, it makes me more confused about what happened in the first place. It actually does a good job of being ref propaganda. Yeah. Well, that's what the question is.

2:43:49PFT Commenter:Oh, just to make refs feel better? So you don't get mad at the refs? Oh, no. Fuck that. No, no. I want to get mad at the refs. There you go. You got to get mad at the refs. Yeah. What's the whole point of refs is to get mad, right? Yeah. And umpires. Like Greg Olson. Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. And like I said, we're going to do Ryder Cup preview with Shane Bacon on Friday with our picks and preview for a huge football weekend. We're going to do the lottery ball machine brought to you by Jack Pocket. Today's lottery ball segment is brought to you by Jack Pocket, the number one app for ordering lottery tickets on your phone.

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2:45:01Big Cat:22. 25. 99, put. 699 days for memes This would be 700 for memes Oh 76

2:45:1525

2:45:16PFT Commenter:Did you get it?

2:45:18Big Cat:Did you say 25? Yeah Yeah I got it

2:45:21PFT Commenter:Oh Yes Zach Again He did it again

2:45:27Big Cat:This guy can't be stopped I'm sorry Zach I talked over you when you're doing it Because I wanted to highlight the fact that it's been And now officially 700 days. Oh, no. Memes hasn't got it. And Zach, you got it twice.

2:45:39PFT Commenter:Oh, let's get a memes lottery ball clock for the wall. That counts up? Yeah. Yeah, days since he's never gotten it.

2:45:50Big Cat:Yeah. Memes. Or we could do a countdown until Hank, until he gets to Hank.

2:45:54PFT Commenter:Oh, okay. That works too. Memes. I guess that would double as a death clock for memes. Yeah. That kind of solves both. Or a death clock for Hank. Talk us through this because after Zach got the first one. He would kill you. You were fine. This one's got to hurt.

2:46:14Big Cat:No, he's just really good at it. No, he's just got to hurt. It's just really easy.

2:46:18PFT Commenter:I mean, Zach, how do you do it? I just usually go with the numbers that are on the graphic on the Jack Pocket Machine. Oh.

2:46:32PFT Commenter:There's 25 right there The wrong one Right there I did that same thing today I did one Oh man, Zach You're so good at this, dude

2:46:40Big Cat:That's number one, Max Crazy, so you've gotten it twice Twice, Zach No, every ball has its day

2:46:45PFT Commenter:No, but Zach You've gotten it twice in one That's not true, Zach

2:46:49Big Cat:That's not true Yeah, that is just not true Zero for memes

2:46:53PFT Commenter:Incredible job, Zach Well, I did get it that one time No, you didn't No, you didn't.

2:46:57Big Cat:I did. No, you've never gotten it. I did guess it right that one time. I would give you my lottery ball win if I could. I guessed it right. You still need to acknowledge that I guessed it right. No, I got it. How? I got the numbers. It says right there. I said two and two popped up, so I technically guessed it. I did not win it, but I did guess it. PFT says I have eight wins, and it says right here that memes has zero wins on 700 attempts. I did not win it, but I guessed it right. You never gotten it.

2:47:31PFT Commenter:Damn, dude. Zach. Memes, that is tough. What a legend. Memes. I mean, how do you live with yourself?

2:47:44PFT Commenter:Memes?

2:47:45Big Cat:What? How do you live with yourself? Ruin his day. My day is fine.

2:47:51PFT Commenter:No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. It's not fine. Zach. Great job. Maybe can you – I'm going to tell you something I need you to do for me. Maybe pull memes aside and give them some tips and tell them how to do this. Can you do that for me?

2:48:07Big Cat:Yes, sir.

2:48:08PFT Commenter:Okay. All right, Pug, maybe get that for PMTV. Maybe put a PowerPoint together for memes on how to get the lottery ball correct. That would be a great PMTV. I think everyone would enjoy watching that, right? I would. Yeah. All right. So there we go.

2:48:23Big Cat:So Zach gets it two times on his own? Yeah. PFC got it once on his own in this one. In this room, you have. I've gotten the lottery ball twice. No, you needed another man to get the lottery ball for you. This is really sad. This is really sad.

2:48:36PFT Commenter:You're lashing out. You're lashing out. This is really sad. Cook. Oh, memes. Sad memes. Zach, yeah, please. PowerPoint. I actually like to attend as well. Just kind of breaking down how you get it right so often. I think it'll be a fun group project. Yeah. Perfect. Perfect. All right. Not a good project. Love you guys.

2:49:29Thank you.

2:49:57Thank you.

2:50:26Thank you.