NHL Playoffs With Ryan Whitney, NFL Draft Recap, NBA Playoffs, Who’s Back Of The Week + We Get Involved In The Press Off

27 Apr 2026 · 2 h 39 min · 68 chapters

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In short

The hosts cover NHL Stanley Cup playoff talk with Ryan Whitney, recap the completed 2026 NFL Draft (including team-by-team grades and notable picks), then shift to NBA playoff discussion (Sixers/Celtics, Rockets/LeBron, and other series). They also do “Who’s Back of the Week” and a segment about getting involved in the press.

Guests

Ryan Whitney (former NHL player; appears in studio to discuss Stanley Cup playoffs). No other named guest is present in the transcript.

Key claims and notable examples

  • NFL Draft: They joke that every team “got an F” because they didn’t draft Heisman finalist Diego Pavia; they note Pavia is headed to Ravens minicamp.
  • Steelers: Andrew Filippano gets “pressed” after a prior tweet about Steelers drafting Drew Allar; Allar was drafted in the third round.
  • QBs/fallers: Drew Allar, Carson Beck, Cade Klubnick, and Garrett Nussmeier were mocked as first-rounders earlier but dropped; Nussmeier went in the seventh to the Chiefs.
  • Eagles: They discuss Cole Payton as a “Taysom Hill”-type (QB/athlete), plus a defensive-tackle project pick (Uar Bernard) described as extremely explosive with very low body fat.
  • Ravens: They highlight adding wide receivers for Lamar Jackson (Jacoby Lane, Elijah Spiratu).
  • Jaguars/49ers: Jaguars’ James Gladstone is framed as either a genius or a future “crash out” based on consensus “reaches”; 49ers are criticized for taking a running back in the third round.
  • NBA: Celtics vs. Sixers is framed as a series saved by Embiid returning; Peyton Pritchard is praised. LeBron’s playoff performance is emphasized, including a father-son alley-oop and clutch threes. They also discuss Kevin Durant’s lack of showing up in Game 3.

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NFL Draft Recap

1:02 to 1:30

Discussion about the NFL draft, team performances, and player grades.

“we have our good friend Ryan Whitney in studio talking Stanley Cup playoffs.”

NFL Draft Recap

1:34 to 2:39

Discussion about the NFL draft, team performances, and player grades.

“Whether you're road tripping, heading to practice, or loading up for the weekend during the season, it's the MVP of the tailgate.”

Diego Pavia and Draft Reactions

2:39 to 4:24

Analyzing the implications of Diego Pavia not being drafted and reactions to it.

“Today is Monday, April 27th, and the NFL draft is complete.”

Pittsburgh Draft Insights

4:24 to 8:14

Insights into the Pittsburgh Steelers' draft choices and local reactions.

“You'd just be thinking about the draft all day.”

Team Draft Performance

8:14 to 11:23

Evaluation of various NFL teams' draft performances and strategies.

“He's never played football, but then he got drafted as a defensive tackle.”

Sean McVay and Ty Simpson

11:23 to 14:01

Discussion about Sean McVay's reactions during the draft and his communication with Ty Simpson.

“You know, like when you search and like the very first thing that pops up at the top of the screen.”

Draft Analysis and Sean McVay's Mood

14:01 to 15:10

Discussion on the NFL draft and Sean McVay's reaction to his team's selections.

“Actually, next year I need a mock draft from you.”

Speculation on Sean McVay

15:10 to 16:42

Exploration of why Sean McVay might be unhappy and what it means for the Rams.

“For whatever reason, he was not in a good mood.”

Team Reactions to the Draft

16:42 to 18:27

Hosts discuss their respective NFL teams' draft outcomes and expectations.

“Do you guys want to talk about your teams, Hank?”

Le'Veon Bell's Controversial Claim

18:27 to 20:07

Discussion on Le'Veon Bell's claim about Adam Gase and its implications.

“I do like the DeGeneres pick, though, Hank.”
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Draft Grades and Analysis

20:07 to 21:49

Hosts provide grades for various teams' drafts and share insights.

“He said, Le 'Veon Bell went on a podcast and said with his own two eyes, he saw Adam Gay snort cocaine multiple times as a New York Jets head coach.”

Draft Memes and Humor

21:49 to 23:35

Light-hearted discussion about draft day moments and the humor involved.

“You can't always go A - right off the rip, right?”

Player Reactions and Community Involvement

23:35 to 25:39

Exploration of players' reactions to being drafted and their plans for community involvement.

“That would kind of suck if you got drafted.”

Team-Specific Draft Analysis

25:39 to 27:47

Detailed breakdown of individual teams' draft picks and the rationale behind them.

“That would be a cool way to get drafted.”

NFL Draft Analysis: Picks and Surprises

28:01 to 32:30

Analysis of NFL draft picks with a focus on team strategies and player evaluations.

“By the way, can we just say – I put this out there a couple years ago, and the draft Knicks, they got mad at me.”

Discussion on Draft Day Culture and Family Connections

32:31 to 35:01

Lighthearted conversation on the family and cultural aspects of draft day experiences.

“It's for dogs being in the draft party at home and counseling with your family.”

Playoffs Talk: NBA Playoff Anticipation

35:02 to 36:05

Transition into NBA playoffs discussion with humor and commentary on teams and players.

“There's thousands of lefties that want to hear about this.”

Playoffs Talk: NBA Playoff Anticipation

36:06 to 36:59

Transition into NBA playoffs discussion with humor and commentary on teams and players.

“brings excellent excitement to every game day the whole postseason when the lights get brightest, the best players in the world show you exactly who they are.”

Playoffs Talk: NBA Playoff Anticipation

37:02 to 37:13

Transition into NBA playoffs discussion with humor and commentary on teams and players.

“21 and over in most states, void in Ontario.”

NBA Playoffs Recap: Key Performances and Controversies

37:14 to 42:00

Analysis of recent playoff games, highlighting standout performances and controversies.

“Max, I don't think the Sixers are going to win that series.”

Kevin Durant's Playoff Struggles

42:00 to 44:20

Discussion revolves around Kevin Durant's playoff performance and legacy concerns.

“Yeah, and what is going on with Kevin Durant?”

Coaching Changes and Team Dynamics

44:20 to 47:10

Exploration of coaching impacts on team performance, particularly the Celtics.

“Like, that was a coach at the time who was considered one of the top, you know, five coaches in the NBA, had remade the Celtics, had taken him to the finals.”

Orlando Magic's Surprising Performance

47:10 to 49:30

A look at the Orlando Magic's unexpected success during the playoffs.

“I think I'm allowed to do this because 10 days ago, the Orlando Magic lost to the G League Celtics with a game that had consequences for them.”

Player Highlights and Game Recaps

49:30 to 52:40

Recap of notable player performances in recent NBA games.

“So I was like, I guess I'm going to watch some of this.”

Timberwolves' Playoff Journey

52:40 to 56:00

Discussion about the Timberwolves overcoming challenges in the playoffs.

“now did John Rothstein have a tweet Oh, I don't know.”

Timberwolves' Playoff Performance

56:00 to 58:20

Discussing the Timberwolves' playoff success and performance against the Nuggets.

“I bet on the Timberwolves last night at minus 145 to win the series.”

Jokic's Performance and Controversy

58:20 to 1:00:00

Analyzing Jokic's controversial performance and the aftermath involving a missing underwear story.

“Fucking Rudy Gobert putting himself in the middle of this And somehow, I think Rudy Gobert came off looking like more of a bitch even than Jokic.”

Unwritten Rules in Sports

1:00:00 to 1:03:00

Debating unwritten rules in sports and how they are perceived in modern games.

“I just hate that I have to call Jokic a bitch, but we got to call it like we see it, right?”

Mid-Playoff Performance Review

1:03:00 to 1:07:40

Examining key playoff performances, including James Harden's struggles and team dynamics.

“But for the most part, most unwritten rules are someone loses and is upset they're losing and then says you're a bad sport.”

Red Sox Coaching Changes

1:08:14 to 1:10:00

Discussing the Red Sox coaching changes and reactions to the team's performance.

“Special envoy for the Shield of the Americas, Jason Veritek.”

Liverpool and Boston Team Ownership Concerns

1:10:00 to 1:12:09

Discussion on John Henry's ownership of multiple sports teams and fan backlash.

“made it seem like they fired the Liverpool coaches because it was like Liverpool owner sacks five coaches and like shocking.”

Managerial Changes in MLB History

1:12:10 to 1:13:11

Exploring rare occurrences of managerial firings in baseball history.

“I mean, it's like they sent him on a plane.”

Who's Back of the Week: Papa John

1:13:12 to 1:15:53

Celebrating the return of Papa John as a booster for UofL amidst controversy.

“I think he was Astros, then Red Sox, then.”

Top Gun 3 and Plane Confusion

1:15:54 to 1:17:56

Lighthearted banter about the upcoming Top Gun movie and plane identification mishaps.

“He was just staring at a plane, getting so angry that he couldn't figure it out.”

Marathon Records and Speed Talks

1:17:57 to 1:21:59

Debate on recent marathon records and comparisons to historical athletes.

“Also, who's back is anti-Italian discrimination because I tagged Max in this, but there's a gentleman.”

Press Wars in Pittsburgh

1:22:00 to 1:24:01

Recap of the ongoing press battles around the Penguins and their games.

“I think it makes you a little taller at PFT.”

Pressing Concerns: The Press Off

1:24:01 to 1:32:01

Learn about the hilarity and absurdity surrounding the concept of pressing in sports and the ongoing 'press off' between two characters.

“I feel like Pickensburg's definitely written down his next press.”

Pressing Concerns: The Press Off

1:32:06 to 1:33:15

Learn about the hilarity and absurdity surrounding the concept of pressing in sports and the ongoing 'press off' between two characters.

“With Experian Boost, you can raise your credit score instantly.”

Deep Dive into NHL Playoffs

1:33:39 to 1:38:01

Ryan Whitney shares insights on the current NHL playoffs, player injuries, and the competitiveness of the games.

“But the books out, you guys are monsters.”

Injuries and Playoff Performance

1:38:01 to 1:39:59

Discussion about player injuries and their impact on playoff performance.

NBA vs NHL: A Tough Comparison

1:40:00 to 1:42:06

Comparing the current state of the NBA with the NHL and discussing their audiences.

“When I'm on, so the 47 times I've been on, yeah, you guys talk hockey.”

Hurricanes and Playoff Predictions

1:42:07 to 1:43:19

Predictions on the Hurricanes’ playoff chances and insights into their performance.

“Dan's like 275, but I feel like he's really throwing shit to the wind.”

Oilers' Goaltending Woes

1:43:20 to 1:45:10

Discussion on the Edmonton Oilers' goaltending issues and their playoff status.

“They would just dummy them and like bully them.”

Bruins' Struggles and Player Dynamics

1:45:11 to 1:47:28

Insight into the Bruins' playoff struggles and player dynamics during the games.

“McDavid being injured, it's close to the firing squad they might bring back, I read.”

Rising Stars and Surprise Teams in Playoffs

1:47:29 to 1:52:00

Overview of surprising teams and players in the current NHL playoffs.

“I want to ask you about the Bs, about the Bruins, Hank's Bruins.”

Philadelphia Hockey Atmosphere

1:52:00 to 1:54:08

Discussion on the intense hockey culture in Philadelphia and other cities.

“scumbag philadelphia hockey now i've been calling i've been calling the city of philadelphia They're scumbags.”

Brandon Hagel's Emergence

1:54:08 to 1:55:18

Insights into Brandon Hagel's career trajectory and impact in playoff series.

“That Lightning-Canadians series that tied 2-2 after tonight, that's been a war.”

Experiences at Playoff Games

1:55:18 to 1:56:56

Personal anecdotes about the electric atmosphere at playoff games, especially in Montreal.

“Yeah, where the entire penalty box filled up with dudes and Tom Wilson was trying to fight his way out of the box.”

Anticipation for Buffalo Game

1:56:56 to 1:58:26

Excitement and plans for attending a Buffalo Sabres playoff game.

“My 0.000 % chance billboards of making playoffs.”

Anticipation for Buffalo Game

1:59:56 to 2:00:22

Excitement and plans for attending a Buffalo Sabres playoff game.

“You find yourself in the center of the dance floor.”

Zamboni Ride Bet

2:00:22 to 2:02:48

Discussion about a bet leading to a Zamboni ride and lighthearted banter.

“Speaking of Zambonis, I actually have – I'm riding the Zameth next year.”

Sports Parenting Perspectives

2:02:48 to 2:06:03

Exploration of the challenges and joys of coaching kids in sports.

“Thank you for making me appreciate my life and getting out of the doom and gloom that I live in.”

The Importance of Team Sports

2:06:03 to 2:07:48

Discussing the life lessons learned from playing team sports.

“Because it wasn't that that Malcolm Gladwell thing where he did the whole calendar.”

Coaching Kids in Hockey

2:07:49 to 2:09:16

Sharing experiences and advice on coaching young hockey players.

“or was it like you always just loved it?”

The Weirdness of Goaltending

2:09:17 to 2:09:54

A humorous take on goaltending and its peculiarities.

“And I don't know anything about the position, which is probably a good thing because I wouldn't be able to tell them any nonsense.”

Analyzing the NHL Playoffs

2:09:55 to 2:11:04

Insights on the ongoing NHL playoffs and predictions.

“But you're making your kids scared to come out to you as being a goalie.”

Franchise Histories and Curses

2:11:05 to 2:12:20

Discussion about the Minnesota Wild and the concept of sports curses.

“Do you know the Wild have never held a 2-0 series leave in the history of their franchise?”

Future of the NHL Draft

2:12:21 to 2:15:38

Speculating on the upcoming NHL draft and potential outcomes.

“When the Heat Daddy writes, I'll call it the president.”

The Legacy of Connor McDavid

2:15:39 to 2:19:56

Debating Connor McDavid's impact on the league and his future.

“I think we finished this thing off 4-2 with an empty netter.”

Debating McDavid's Future and Legacy

2:20:01 to 2:22:39

The hosts discuss where NHL star Connor McDavid might play and his potential legacy.

“He's got another team he's going to go to.”

Comparing Greatness in Sports

2:22:40 to 2:24:06

A conversation on the differences between being the best and the greatest in sports, using examples from hockey and football.

“That's interesting coming from an Ovi guy.”

Ryan Whitney's Upcoming Book and Contributors

2:24:07 to 2:27:25

Discussion about Ryan Whitney's book, its contributors, and the humorous anecdotes shared by the hosts.

“I think that memes, that's going to read more like a manifesto.”

Ryan Whitney's Upcoming Book and Contributors

2:28:13 to 2:29:05

Discussion about Ryan Whitney's book, its contributors, and the humorous anecdotes shared by the hosts.

“Morgan has been specialized in delivering power moves straight to you.”

Anecdotes and Banter about Personal Life

2:29:13 to 2:34:00

The hosts share light-hearted stories about personal experiences and humorous interactions with each other.

“good show boys by the way i i'm talking to icy vert now i i think he's got i think pickensburg has got to go to Philly.”

Discussion on Tryouts and Injuries

2:34:00 to 2:35:01

The hosts share a light-hearted conversation about past tryouts and the outcomes.

“It's Billy Napier's biggest what-if at the University of Florida, people say.”

Jacob's Speech and Celebrations

2:35:01 to 2:36:07

Jacob humorously expresses gratitude during a celebratory speech with the hosts.

Birthday Shoutouts

2:36:07 to 2:37:55

The hosts celebrate and give shoutouts for various birthdays, including Blake Bortles.

“I would like to thank, first and foremost, my family, the Academy.”

Closing Remarks and Sign-Off

2:37:55 to 2:40:30

The episode concludes with final remarks and more birthday wishes.

“No one else has anything to say to Blake?”
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2:38PFT Commenter:Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, April 27th, and the NFL draft is complete. Good job, boys. Congrats on the people drafted and Diego Pavia.

2:55Big Cat:We did it. I was going to say I'd like to update my draft grades that I gave out. Oh. On Friday, we gave out draft grades. I think every team got an A. The Dolphins got, I think, a B or a B plus because they got Proctor and Gruden didn't like that. I'd like to revise these. Every team got an F. because they didn't draft Diego Pavia. Yeah. And he's going to make them all pay.

3:17PFT Commenter:And he's now going to Ravens minicamp.

3:20Big Cat:He's going to minicamp. Yep. I did see there was a... Every camp's a minicamp when you're his side. It's true.

3:25PFT Commenter:I saw a fake tweet or Instagram story, Diego Pavia being like, fuck the NFL. That was not real. That was kind of bullshit that someone made it look like he said that. Maybe should have had an agent, but probably not. I don't know. I don't know. If you can play football, you would have gotten drafted. First Heisman finalist to not get drafted since, do you guys know?

3:46Big Cat:Ooh. Heisman finalist to not get drafted.

3:50PFT Commenter:Mm-hmm. I don't know. Jordan Lynch, Northern Illinois. Maction.

3:54Big Cat:Okay.

3:54PFT Commenter:Legend. But congrats to Pittsburgh. They had 805 ,000 people go to the draft. Mm-hmm. That is a record. Congratulations.

4:04Big Cat:Canceled school on Thursday and Friday. Yep. We like that. Made sense. No, they didn't. Yeah. Yeah, they did. Oh, yeah. You can't have kids going to school when the NFL drafts in town, Hank. That's a joke. No. That's a good sports town. No, that's a great sports town. That's just not true. Every kid would have had draft fever. There'd be no learning going on in the school that day. They had to do it. What are you talking about?

4:24PFT Commenter:We talked about this. They canceled school.

4:27Big Cat:Why are you so pro school? Two days for the NFL draft at night? It's the NFL draft, dude. Yeah, I don't know what you're under. It's day one and two. It's not day three. At night? Day three. You can miss it. It's fine. Yeah. That is wild. Good sports sound, I guess. Great sports. You could go to school and the draft. No. Yes. How? The draft was that night. Yeah, but no. No. You'd just be thinking about the draft all day.

4:56PFT Commenter:Absolutely not. You have to let everyone go to the draft. By the way, Max, I had some draft thoughts. So let's stick with Pittsburgh because we have another. We gave you the Pickensburg pressing last week out of Pittsburgh. Now this week we have Andrew Filippano, who is a radio host in Pittsburgh, who, if you remember, had to get his nipples pierced, had this tweet, which was in the middle of the summer. It was 250 days before the NFL draft was in Pittsburgh. He said, if the Steelers draft Drew Aller in 250 days, I think I'll quit my job. turns out the Pittsburgh Steelers did draft Drew Aller he then got pressed on I don't know if you guys heard the radio call but he was on radio after and someone called in and he Andrew Filippano was like come meet me at the studio my show ends in an hour like let's bow up so I like this this is good energy going around Pittsburgh

5:55Big Cat:Andrew Filippano that's what he does his entire economy is based on saying that he'll do stuff

6:03PFT Commenter:This one is especially funny, though, because at the time of the tweet, Drew Aller was thought to be maybe a potential first-rounder. And that was the big story. One of the big stories coming out of this draft was guys going into their final college football season, guys who decided to stay an extra year, Drew Aller, Carson Beck, Cade Klubnick, Garrett Nussmeier, all these guys that at one point were being mocked as potential first-rounders all fell significantly. Secondly, Drew Aller went in the third round of the Steelers. Garrett Nussmeyer went in the seventh round of the Chiefs, which actually is a great spot because you just beat Patrick Mahomes back up.

6:40PFT Commenter:Cade Klubnick went to the Jets. Congratulations, memes. That's actually a good – take a flyer on a guy in the fourth round. And the Eagles got – Yeah, they got – I was going to get to that. Carson Beck went to the Cardinals in the third round, and the Eagles got Cole Payton, which Todd McShay owes us a video. I texted him. He might be in transit right now, but we will get that video. I said, hopefully add some tears because didn't he say he had to be a fourth rounder? Yeah. In order to be satisfied? Yes. He was fifth. He was fifth, so he has to cry.

7:09Big Cat:He has to cry real tears during it. And he did not hit on his Mr. Irrelevant picks, did he? No.

7:15PFT Commenter:Okay. So no NILs. We don't have to donate to Richmond. Max, knowing what we know now about Cole Payton, and that is essentially everything Todd McShay told us, is there a QB controversy in Philadelphia? No, he's Taysom Hill. Oh. Next Taysom Hill. Okay. You're going to do Taysom Hill on everyone. Yeah.

7:33Big Cat:Sure. Smart.

7:34PFT Commenter:I'm in.

7:34Big Cat:Yeah. Quarterback by committee. I mean, we just Taysom Hill. He's a football player.

7:39PFT Commenter:Isn't that weird that when you say next Taysom Hill, it's like, it is kind of an insult because the guy plays quarterback and you're saying, we don't trust him to throw. But Taysom Hill is awesome. Yeah. Taysom Hill is great. Right. But it is also kind of an insult. Cole Payton started a game at running back for North Dakota State in his career. Oh, you've done your research. Max, speaking because we're on the Eagles right now, you guys drafted a guy who's never played football. Not the first time we've done that. Yeah, that's true. Worked out for Jordan Maialata. Here's my question. He's a monster.

8:09PFT Commenter:He's a monster. Uar Bernard, I think that was his name, is an absolute monster. Here's my question, though, Max. He's never played football, but then he got drafted as a defensive tackle. How do you know? They say he projects to be a defensive tackle. Okay, because I was going to say, what if he's something else? He could be anything.

8:29Big Cat:I think they just looked at his body size, and they said, this guy, if you were to put his measurables into another position, it's probably defense tackle. But he could be a tight end, Darnell Washington. 6 '4", 306, 6 % body fat. Again, I think we talked about this guy last week. He's not fat enough. No. 6 % body fat is ridiculous. You need – he's all skin and bones.

8:50PFT Commenter:Do you know that he was 11 % body fat when he got to America, I think in January to get to like start training and then he just lost 5 % body fat like that. He got skinnier while he was in America. Yeah, just body fat. That's kind of crazy. I don't know if he got skinnier. He probably gained more muscle or Bernard. Yeah, he's better athlete than Miles Garrett. It's fucking insane. Someone that I was reading an article about him and someone said that he is hands down the most explosive athlete I've ever seen in my life. Broad jump 1010. effortless 306 pounds never seen anything like it that's pretty cool man yeah yeah we got it it's

9:30Big Cat:it's project it's fun if you look at the uh the raw athleticism score this guy is like they he broke the charts yeah they gotta give him a shot did how he cook yeah i mean you just say that how he cooks jonathan grenard did we we haven't talked about that no that was on friday yeah yeah how he

9:47PFT Commenter:cook there yeah sure um some some teams i thought did well i actually think the browns the browns had a really good draft last year the browns other than like everything outside of drafting they they can't figure out right but the draft getting two receivers to help well they actually picked another quarterback didn't they didn't they get uh well the brown and green yeah but the browns got they drafted a pro bowler last year too yes yes so the browns though got uh casey Concepcion, Denzel Boston, Boston filled out their offensive line.

10:21Big Cat:I like what the Browns did. And if you're wondering, does that name sound familiar? Denzel Boston. It should because he is David Boston's son, the old Arizona Cardinal superstar, just freak athlete. Do you have a comment about that? Listen, because your guy Greeny said that. My guy Greeny got some bad information. We all screw up from time to time. I thought that his accountability was awesome. That's how you apologize for really fucking something up.

10:46PFT Commenter:Listen, when there's a player with the same last name who plays the same position, I think that should just be assumed. Who's the player that we talked about? Was it Devin Hester Jr.? Yeah, who wasn't related to Devin Hester. But not related to Devin Hester. He was related to a Devin Hester.

11:05Big Cat:And maybe this guy's dad was named David Boston, but Greeny did go out of his way to say, yeah, the Pro Bowl wide receiver from the Cardinals. That was not true. My guess is that Green might have gotten AI'd. Yeah. I'm going to blame this on AI Colin Coward. Green might have gone to him for his research. Yep. It sounds like an AI mistake. You know, like when you search and like the very first thing that pops up at the top of the screen. That's always wrong. It's wrong 100 % of the time.

11:31PFT Commenter:I liked other teams. I like what the Ravens did because they got two more guys that Lamar Jackson can throw to. And Jacoby Lane and Elijah Spirat. Just any time the Ravens draft a wide receiver, I'm like, oh, they're paying attention. that they need some guys. I'm trying to think. We could all go around and do our teams specifically, but the Jaguars, I feel like James Gladstone is going to be a genius or he's going to crash out very soon because the Jaguars, and I don't really put a lot of weight into the whole consensus board, but obviously those get talked about. Where did you pick them? Could you have had them later?

12:08PFT Commenter:James Gladstone said after the draft, he's like, that was the easiest draft we did. We got everything we wanted. four out of his five picks i believe in the in his first five picks were all significantly uh considered reaches based on the consensus board so he's either a genius and he's like money balling this and he's seeing something before everyone else or we're going to look back and be like why why do we hire that that that young nerd like it's it's the it's just going to be

12:36Big Cat:such a swing for him yeah so his spreadsheets might just be completely different from everybody

12:40PFT Commenter:else's spreadsheet but i listen if you told me if you tell me that you kind of like that yeah if you tell me you have a spreadsheet i'm in like so when whenever someone tries to give me a pick and they have a spreadsheet attached to it yeah he's got a system the numbers could mean nothing they could just throw the numbers in there like steven che and just be like this is my spreadsheet i see i see a spreadsheet i see excel and i'm like yeah i trust them he's got the formula that

13:01Big Cat:nobody else has the cells are aligned differently for him i listen the jaguars were good last year Yeah. They were a very big surprise last year. So I guess just like trust in your nerd until he becomes a dork.

13:13PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. And then we had the 49ers weirdly take a running back, I believe, in the third round that that was also considered a reach. And then they were asked about that afterwards. And John Lynch and Kyle Shannon were like, you guys just keep reaching. What's up with that?

13:27Big Cat:You're reaching that question.

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13:29PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. They're like, I think one of them was like, actually, we wanted to take him earlier. Yeah. We wanted to double reach.

13:36Big Cat:That's the right answer. Yeah. Like immediately reframe the conversation. Be like, we showed a lot of restraint. We had this guy as a first round grade. Yeah. And we're lucky that he slipped this late. Yeah. I mean, what I'm seeing a lot of is people that are giving draft grades out based on the consensus mock drafts of these guys. Right. And the thing about mock drafts is like literally anyone can do a mock. Hank could do a mock draft. Yeah. And then Steve and Jay does a mock draft. I could do five mock drafts. Yeah. 5.0. You have to say 0.0.

14:02PFT Commenter:Yeah. Actually, next year I need a mock draft from you.

14:05Big Cat:Yeah.

14:06PFT Commenter:We will put that, Zach, put it in a calendar. Have that be maybe a month before we need Hank's 1.0. I'll put it in mine April 1st. Yep. And then you can, every week up until the draft, I want a new mock draft. Yeah. Our number one talent evaluator. Yeah. So, yeah, it is. You're right. It's all basically consensus. I don't really care.

14:29Big Cat:Compared to the average of where everybody had these guys going, and there's a lot of idiots out there that do mock drafts. now all that said the commanders did get the best value compared to the average the mock drafts so i have to actually believe in it this year you gotta go with it for this year i'm fine with it there was um more content that came out over the weekend about sean mcveigh and some more behind the scenes stuff yes during the drafting of ty simpson i thought it was kind of like he didn't seem super excited like he gave some looks to uh to less need during the press conference that made you think maybe he's not like fully engaged and then i saw the phone call to ty simpson and I saw a bunch more stuff that came out after the fact, Sean McVay was not happy.

15:10Big Cat:No. For whatever reason, he was not in a good mood. Sean McVay is a guy that everything gets him jacked up about football. Yeah. Just being in a room with names of football players gets him jacked up about football. And I get it. He was the least jacked up Sean McVay I've ever seen. I don't hate the pick and the fact that the worst time to get a quarterback

15:33PFT Commenter:is when you need one, right? When you're desperate for a quarterback, that's when things go wrong. If you're trying to get a quarterback and you're like, hey, we have a good plan for him. We're not going to put the whole franchise on his shoulders right away. That seems like a solid use of a draft pick. But if you're Sean McVay, if you're Matthew Stafford, you probably are like, hey, we're one player away. Why didn't we get that one player? Because if the Rams go to the Super Bowl this year, Ty Simpson will not play any snaps. Probably, yeah. Right? Yeah. So you drafted someone in 13 who will not actually impact this iteration of the Rams.

16:08PFT Commenter:Again, I like to pick because I think that, again, getting yourself ready for the future and staying one step ahead of when you need a quarterback is a smart strategy. But yeah, it was weird watching the Sean McVay after. He also said something. He was like, I was mad about non-football stuff. Yeah, something else was going on.

16:27Big Cat:Yeah.

16:28PFT Commenter:I don't know.

16:28Big Cat:But you would think that Sean McVay. Yeah, what's going on with Sean McVay?

16:32PFT Commenter:That's some fingers.

16:33Big Cat:What's going on with Mr. McFadden? I do not know.

16:35PFT Commenter:I will not be in the speculative business right now.

16:38Big Cat:I'm going to withdraw myself from speculation.

16:40PFT Commenter:Yes. Do you guys want to talk about your teams, Hank? Sure. Do you want to start?

16:46Big Cat:I mean, PFT's guy. He's got me excited. Yeah. Yeah. De Janeiro. Yep.

16:50PFT Commenter:How do you think the draft went for Vrabel on Saturday?

16:53Big Cat:I don't even know if he knows who we got yet.

16:57PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah. He probably doesn't. You're right.

16:58Big Cat:He's probably spending the weekend with family, and then he'll probably come to the office Monday and see who he got and what they're going to do from there. What about the report that he was in constant communication on... I heard that was fake news. Oh. So I've heard one of them's fake news. It's like Schrodinger's cat. Was he in fact in touch with the draft room or not? I mean, he said he was not going to be involved.

17:21PFT Commenter:Was he finger locked with the draft room?

17:23Big Cat:Day three because he was seeking counseling, so I'm assuming he was seeking that counseling. Maybe there was some conversation before, I'm sure, but if he was going to be involved minute by minute, why would he not just go?

17:35PFT Commenter:Yeah. Well, he's counseling. Yeah. Because he's in counseling. Everyone knows. I'm assuming he was just at counseling. Everyone knows you start counseling on a Saturday when you have work obligations. That's when you got to start your counseling.

17:46Big Cat:What if the counselor was Elliott Wolfe? That's a good point, PFT. Yeah. What if they were counseling together? Maybe the counseling was at where the Patriots were doing the draft. So he maybe just went to go.

17:57PFT Commenter:They have the breastfeeding room for the families. Yeah, he goes and take a piss and pops his head in real quick. Don't let Vrabel in the breastfeeding room. Yeah. No. Right. But the counseling room, got to go. They got a confessional there. Yeah. Yeah.

18:09Big Cat:Hasn't really worked out. It was nice to have some draft talk. Yeah.

18:13PFT Commenter:That would have been funny if Vrabel was like, I'm doing counseling, and then he was still there, and he's like, yeah, I did my counseling. I said, you know, 10 Hail Marys and five fathers. I went to church. I'm good.

18:24Big Cat:I fucking got it off my chest, bro. I went to church. I do like the DeGeneres pick, though, Hank. That guy is a beast. You're going to love him. And I loved his reaction, too. He was like, I'm not even happy to be drafted. He's like, talk to me after the roster cuts. Then maybe I'll be happy. Yeah, I'm excited. So what do you give the grade? I give it a B. Solid B. Oh, that's not good.

18:43PFT Commenter:What if Rabel had been there on Saturday? Probably B+. Okay, B+. That makes sense. Memes. I know the Jets did well. Jets had a great draft. Yeah. Outside of trading up for Kate Kolomnik.

18:56Big Cat:What are you going to do? No, I thought the pick's fine, but they just gave up another fourth rounder to go up and get him, which you probably didn't have to do that.

19:03PFT Commenter:You know what you need to do is you need to find when there definitely is a point in time where Cade Klubnick was mocked as a top 10 pick. Yeah, that was going into this draft. Yeah, so find that and just be like, hey, look at the value we got. There actually is one person who had Cade Klubnick as the number one college football prospect going in.

19:24Big Cat:There you go. Shout out Brandon Walker.

19:25PFT Commenter:There you go. No, he's not really that much of an expert. He crushed the 2025 season, right? Nailed it.

19:32Big Cat:I did that. That's a really powerful thing you can do, though, is look back at, like, oh, this guy could be a franchise. I did that with Sam Howell for a year. He was mocked, like, one or two overall for a little bit, yeah. Jets also had a cool moment with D 'Angelo Pons. His player comp was Aaron Glenn. So in the team video, it was Aaron Glenn watching it. So it was pretty cool.

19:56PFT Commenter:Oh, I got breaking moves, by the way. Breaking moves. Might not be breaking to memes because he's on top of this stuff. Did you see this memes from NYJ Matt?

20:07Big Cat:What did he say?

20:08PFT Commenter:He said he's aggregating a podcast. He said, Le 'Veon Bell went on a podcast and said with his own two eyes, he saw Adam Gay snort cocaine multiple times as a New York Jets head coach. Shut the fuck up. Dudes rock. Hyperdrive. Yeah. He's put his brain in a hyperdrive. Guys can't sniff a little cocaine before a game? What are we talking about?

20:30Big Cat:The eyes. Yeah, the eyes make a lot more sense.

20:33PFT Commenter:It's great, too, because Adam Gates got another job. Wait, was he Jets head coach before Dolphins head coach? Yeah, right? No, Dolphins and Jets. You'd think that he would have been better if he was on Coke, right? No, definitely not. You don't think so? No. If you're an offensive genius, you're on coke, you sober up and you look back at your play sheet, you're like, what the fuck was I thinking? I don't know. No, I mean like for games. Oh, yeah. But like when you're, you know, everyone's had those late night business meetings around a coffee table. Right.

21:05Big Cat:They don't really make a lot of sense. I think if you're talking about getting coked up for the game planning phase, then that's bad news. Yeah, yeah. Maybe just like the execution phase. Like, you go out on the field and you take a little toot, you might get jacked up a little bit. Can you play the clip? The original smelling salt, yeah.

21:22PFT Commenter:He also said he might have been the dumbest coach ever. We got practice in 28 minutes. What? Oh, man. He better be right. Le 'Veon Bell better be right. I feel like that could be a long clip.

21:39Big Cat:This is also alleged.

21:40PFT Commenter:Yeah, no. Well, it's Le 'Veon Bell. Per Le 'Veon Bell. We're not saying anything.

21:42Big Cat:Le 'Veon Bell, we should remind people, doesn't know how old he is. Correct. So I don't know that we can trust his recollection.

21:48PFT Commenter:Yeah, that's facts. Okay, memes. So good grade for the Jets? Yeah, I'd give it an A -. Okay. Max? A+. A+. I like it. Yeah, it was an A+. Everyone should give their draft an A+. I don't know. You can't always go A - right off the rip, right? I just did. A+. Yeah, you're right. You did.

22:12Big Cat:you actually you just proved me wrong but like i believe hank you can do an a plus like hank's our personnel guy and i believe his analysis because he was objective you sound like just some fan off the street you don't have howie i don't have howie yeah fucking howie i did i did say fucking howie in like the bad way but the good way if you're an eagles fan when i heard about that trade with grenard i was like fucking howie dude how does howie do that how can he can't keep getting away with this. Yeah, it's Howie. And then it wasn't even the good pick in the third round. No. It was a comp pick.

22:45Big Cat:Yeah, that was Milton Williams' pick. Howie's just rubbing it in at this point. Yeah. Fucking Howie. And then we have another compensatory next year, so we didn't even lose the third round pick. Fucking Howie.

22:56PFT Commenter:Fucking Howie. Fucking Howie. Did it again. Zach? Piece of shit. You like your boys?

23:00Big Cat:I feel good about our draft. Yes, sir. Give me the highlights. I mean, Ruben Bain off the back, highlight, homegrown guy, born in Florida, went to Miami, Can play in the heat. Good points. He had by far the best walk to the stage.

23:15PFT Commenter:Ruben Bain?

23:16Big Cat:Yeah. When he just walked up, they had the hat. You take your hat off and smile, pose for a camera. He just walked up fast, grabbed the hat, put it on. It was all business. It was the most intimidating draft I've ever seen.

23:30PFT Commenter:By the way, there are some times when they get to the late rounds where Goodell, they let anyone go up and do a draft pick. That would kind of suck if you got drafted. I saw there was a guy holding a dog talking about God knows what. And then he's like, and then here's the pick. And then this is the guy. Yeah. A little bit of just, you know, I don't know. It would piss me off if this was my big moment. I'd be okay with it. A guy in a clown costume comes up and he's just like, hey, here's the pick. It depends on what. I'd be okay with getting drafted by a dog. Yeah, but it wasn't a dog. It was a guy holding a dog.

24:04Big Cat:If it was just a dog. Like Bill Belichick when his dog. Yeah. If that dog drafted me, I'd be like, that's awesome.

24:09PFT Commenter:Didn't Jake Plummer a few years ago come down off of a ski mountain? Am I remembering that correctly?

24:16Big Cat:When you said Jake Plummer came down off, I did not think you were going to say a mountain.

24:20PFT Commenter:I want to say he was skiing, and then he did a sick move, and he was like, and the Broncos select. So that would kick ass. I would actually love that. Is this a Berenstain Bears thing?

24:29Big Cat:That sounds like COVID. Maybe. Have you guys ever been asked to do a pick? No. No, I don't think I would want to. Just for that reason. Yes, you would. No, I wouldn't. Hank, you found it? For that exact reason. He was skiing, right? That would rock. I would not want to go out there and be like, hey, I'm PFT Cometor, and then I make the announcement of some young kid's life.

24:50PFT Commenter:Right. And also, let's just be honest with our own celebrity. Right. If we ever got offered that, we're talking sixth, seventh round. I don't know. Of course. That's tough. That's a blow. I'd rather go undrafted than be a seventh rounder.

25:06Big Cat:I would actually announce an undrafted signing. Yes, yes. I'll do that. If the commanders want me to announce a guy from Northwestern has signed with the commanders, I'll do that. Yep. That was in 2016. Oh, that long ago? God damn. I've been thinking about it for a long time, I guess. That really stuck out for me. One thing I did like about Reuben Bain was when they asked him about the whole pageantry around the situation. He was like, I just like playing football. Oh, yeah. They also said, what number do you want to say? I don't care. Yeah, he's like, I don't care about anything. I don't know about anything.

25:36Big Cat:I just like playing football. I'm a football player.

25:38PFT Commenter:Did you guys see the Giants pick get asked? Oh, here it is. Pick is in. Fourth round, 136. Jake Plummer skiing down a mountain. That rocks. That would be a cool way to get drafted.

25:50Big Cat:I actually came away more impressed with the mascot skiing down the mountain. Yeah. He's snowboarding. Yeah. Which I'm not impressed by.

25:57PFT Commenter:In a mascot costume? No, you can't be a snowboarder. You got to be a skier. That's got to be tough to do. yeah that actually is awesome did you see the Giants draft pick that got asked what he plans on doing for like the kids in the community yeah yeah that was tough tough to have that as your first like introductory press conference get that question but also tough because maybe it's just he just hasn't had the PR training that's also a layup question to just be like I just want to I'm excited to get involved in the community that's

26:28Big Cat:it that's all you gotta say they asked about the kids He should have just been like, yeah, I mean, Jackson and Cam are young guys. I'm pumped to work with them. All right, so what else from the Bucs draft? Also, we got Wider Sear. I think he's at Georgia State. He's 6 '3", so maybe we're going to replace Mike Evans. Can they get another weapon for the Bucs? You know what I mean? Okay. We got to replace some guys. Nice. 6 '4". There you go. Even better. Stand correct at 6 '4". That's an extra inch. We'll take that. We need everyone we can get. Yep. Okay, PFT. I give my team 8+. plus okay a plus sunny styles i think was best value in the entire draft i love sunny styles great linebacker he seemed i don't know there's something about him that i'm like this is what you want to be the guy that's in the middle of your defense for the next 10 years every by the way every uh player from the ohio state defense that won the national title got drafted yeah uh between

27:20PFT Commenter:this draft and last year's draft including arvel reese who wasn't even a starter yeah so now now

27:24Big Cat:the entire linebacking core that we're gonna have next year is gonna be completely different we're We're getting young at a position that we were super old. We're getting fast at a position we were super slow. Plus, I just trust Dan Quinn. If he takes a linebacker that early, I trust him. And then we got Antonio Williams from Clemson. I've heard good things about him. I saw some of his – I saw Baldy do a breakdown on him. Here's why I got excited about him. Because Baldy did a breakdown on this guy two days before the draft. Oh, nice. So he's one of Baldy's guys. And then I saw the highlights that Baldy was showing.

27:54Big Cat:They didn't really look that – he looked wide open for a lot of the catches. But Baldy likes him, so I like him. So that's why that's an A-plus for me. And then we got Joshua Josephs from Tennessee at Edge. By the way, can we just say – I put this out there a couple years ago, and the draft Knicks, they got mad at me. I think I'm done with Edge. Oh, yeah, definitely. I think I'm done edging.

28:14PFT Commenter:Yeah, give me defensive linemen.

28:15Big Cat:Defensive end. Yeah, defensive linemen, defensive end. What's wrong with saying outside linebacker? Why are we edging? And why do we have to put it in all caps? Yeah. Who started that? I want answers. Zach, could you look up answers for me? Lotta edge. He's her. Thank you. But Joshua Joseph, I think that was like the best value in the draft. People had him slotted at like 70. We got him at 150, I think, or 147. And then Katron Allen from Penn State, the running back. Kind of a strange pick because we've got a couple good running backs already. But this is why I like the pick right here. They asked him about his nickname.

28:54Big Cat:he said i was a fat baby and everyone in the town called me fat man hopefully i keep it going in washington they call me fat man and you know when i score all you're going to hear is people saying fat man i love that i love having a fat man i like like no no no no no no no no no no no no fat man fat man i'm gonna love fat man sure i'm a little boy and i love fat man explosives pew pew pew pew explosive we got offensive lineman then a quarterback from Rutgers that Tom Fornelli likes so Tom Fornelli is an expert college football expert actually so I give the commanders an A plus I know A minus because we didn't draft Diego Pavia yeah I give the Bears a

29:38PFT Commenter:trust in Ben Johnson because they went into this draft with one glaring hole defensive line and we didn't do anything except well actually no I shouldn't say that we did get a South African in the sixth round who can jump out of pools yeah that's cool I mean anytime you get a guy who could jump out of a pool but yeah the Bears draft strategy did not seem I I do think that like we don't I don't know shit last year there were people who thought that you know Colson Loveland at 10 was a weird pick and then he ends up being the best tight end in in the draft and also one of the top tight ends in the league So I trust in Ben Johnson, but we took a center from Iowa who actually Kyle Long was talking about, Logan Jones.

30:21PFT Commenter:So I'm excited about that. But then we took a wide receiver from LSU who's going to be a special teamer in Xavier Thomas in the third round. Still hadn't taken a defensive lineman. And then Ryan Poles gave a quote, which I think he's just maybe he listens to his show too much where his spin zones have gotten too good. So this is the quote by Ryan Poles after drafting a safety who I like a lot in the first round when literally we need pass rush. He said, the D-line helps the back end more often than not, but in this situation where we have good corners and good safeties, we can be in a position where maybe we can have the quarterback hold the ball a little longer.

31:02PFT Commenter:We're going for cover sacks. Yep. That never feels like a good strategy. No, in fact, yeah. He spins on the fuck out of that being like, listen, our secondary is going to be so good that we don't need a pass rush.

31:15Big Cat:I've noticed that a lot of teams are doing the exact opposite. Teams that have glaring holes in their secondary are like, fuck it, let's just get edge. Let's edge ourselves. Correct.

31:25PFT Commenter:But, Justin Ben Johnson. We also took some guys. I think Logan Jones is the vanilla gorilla. That's sweet, yeah. And Dinaman is the white lightning. So, those are good names.

31:38Big Cat:You've got your exciting whites lined up? Yeah, we've got big-time exciting whites. Yeah, you also got the guy that got drafted 57th. Yes. And so Chicago got the guy that gets a lifetime supply of ketchup from Heinz. Logan Jones. Which is the funniest possible combination for a city to get. And he was like, yeah, I love ketchup. Yeah.

31:55PFT Commenter:That's perfect. I like the Malik Muhammad pick, though, out of Texas in the fourth round. But yeah, confusing draft for the Bears, but a trust in Ben Johnson draft. It's like, hey, it will be interesting to see if the pass rush is as bad as it was last year and the run stopping and it continues to be as bad. There will probably be some. We're going to have to have some honest conversations. Sit down, uncomfortable, honest conversations about what the strategy has been where there's just been no. There's nothing that's been put into the defensive line for multiple years in a row. The draft. Okay, so that's our draft talk.

32:30PFT Commenter:Anything else from the draft? it's over Hank you happy it's over yeah I'm ready I'm ready for football to come back oh what about the uh we did have a fake Browns pick there's a new movie probably yeah maybe draft day two did you guys see that yep Roger Goodell came up and announced a fake Browns pick they booed him so that'll be interesting I'm excited for that and we also had the dog that uh took the seat on the couch that was cool yeah that's a good dog very good dog that's our that's basically the the The Saturday of the draft is for two things. It's for dogs being in the draft party at home and counseling with your family.

33:06Big Cat:I would also add. That's day three.

33:08PFT Commenter:Yeah. Saturday. I know you get confused because you probably had to do counseling, too, about your coach.

33:16Big Cat:Hank was with his family.

33:17PFT Commenter:Yeah. You were actually. How many times did you visit your family? Not Saturday. Oh, you only visited your family on Sunday? Yeah. So did you do some counseling today? What did you shoot? Saturday. Bad. Lefty's bad. Give us a number. It doesn't matter. Come on, give us a number. It doesn't matter. Counseling is about being honest. No one wants to hear about your golf score. No, no, we're not talking about golf scores. We're talking about your counseling.

33:37Big Cat:Yeah, I keep that between me and the counselor. No, I want to know about your kids. Keep it in the family, all right? We're going through some stuff on the home front. What do you mean, stuff? It's internal matters, all right? I hope it's not internal. Would you score? No one cares. Did you score? Hey, PFT, do you care? Because I care. I care a lot. I care a lot about your family. It doesn't matter. It's not here or there. I want your family to be successful. I want your family to be together. I want to support your family. I appreciate that. We appreciate that. Did you score more or less than the 76ers?

34:12A lot more. Way more. Had to be more.

34:15PFT Commenter:No, the Sixers, what did they end up scoring? I think 98. You scored way more than the Sixers? Way more than the Sixers? I scored more than the Sixers. What? It doesn't matter. Did you score more than the Celtics? No. Okay. No. You scored somewhere in between. Did you score more than the Spurs? They won 114-93.

34:36Big Cat:No. Barely. Did you score more than Zach's fever at the Super Bowl? Probably right around there.

34:48Big Cat:I'm just glad your family's good. Yeah. They're not. It's a home front disaster. I might abandon my family. Oh, no. Ready Lockwood coming back? Get back to work? It's internal. It's internal, all right? This is an external show. I'm going to counseling.

35:04PFT Commenter:We sold lefty packs. I know. You can't just go back. What are you going to do? I'm not. I didn't say I was. There's thousands of lefties that want to hear about this. No one cares about this. Yes. No. Yes. There are people who care. And everyone who cares about this, please tweet at Hank tomorrow. And say, tell us your score.

35:22Big Cat:Big Cat is your overbearing father. I'm your crunchy granola mom. I want you to know that we love you whatever side you choose to be. But I'd like to know some consistency so I can know how to best support you. I'm having identification issues. I don't know. What do you mean you're a lefty? I don't know what I identify as. Are you curious?

35:39PFT Commenter:What the fuck do you mean you're a lefty? You're a righty. You were born a righty.

35:42Big Cat:I'm having a lot of thoughts upstairs. Well, listen, feelings are never wrong, Hank. I know. I just snip-snap. It doesn't matter. The draft. You got to choose one. Well, let's choose one.

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37:20Nah, I don't think so.

37:21PFT Commenter:Yeah, I don't think so, dude. I don't think so. I don't think so. And Bede's back, though. Yeah, he was the only one who showed up. Aiden DeDrumman's time. Yeah, sure. Hank, over?

37:33Big Cat:Yeah, it's over. I mean, Friday night was a lot more of a sweat and it probably should have been. Sixers played hard. I think Embiid coming back actually saved the series for the Celtics. Oh, really? Oh, what do you mean? I mean, he came back and it was a waxing. I don't know that he had a lot to do with the fact that Peyton Pritchard just couldn't miss. Yeah, it's true. I mean, again, if you live by a three, die by a three. I think, yeah, Peyton Pritchard, if NBA quarters were six seconds long, he would be better than Michael Jordan. He would be the best player that's ever played basketball. yeah the other note from Friday night I know a great nice guy and I've talked I've actually like we've talked about his calls on on the show before like positively with the Hornets yeah Eric Collins was was yeah brutal it was brutal I didn't I didn't realize who it was we were what me and Max were watching it I just kept talking about how bad this guy was and then I looked it up and it was like oh this is the Hornets guy who usually like I've only really seen like the highlights and stuff it's like oh these are great it was bad what did you think about um yeah he I

38:35PFT Commenter:I don't think that was a situation. I think there should have been a lower third being like, hey, this is the Hornets guy.

38:42Big Cat:Yeah.

38:43PFT Commenter:Like, hey, just so everyone knows, this is the guy who does the viral Hornets.

38:46Big Cat:But it's good when it's like your hometown announcer or your hometown team. Yeah. When it's like a neutral broadcast.

38:52PFT Commenter:But I was thinking about it, too. It's good because we've heard just clips of it. Like the best clips we see. And then we're like, this is awesome. And then for a playoff game, you're like, what is this? Yeah.

39:01Big Cat:It's like you hear about players talk about the game being a different speed in the playoffs. He had playoff speed on his voice. He needed to just take 50 % more quaaludes before announcing. Hank, do you have any comment on the Celtics' dirty play hitting Paul George directly in his penis on Friday? Playoff penis. No, I mean that's... Didn't even get a flagrant. James Harden once got kicked out of a game for doing that. Wow.

39:25PFT Commenter:And what team was James Harden on when that happened? He was on the Sixers. Wow! Wow! Sounds like the world's out to get you again, Max. Connect a few dots here, Hanky.

39:33Big Cat:I mean, they reviewed the play, and it was ruled a common foul. As was James Harden. It was kind of perverted how many times they reviewed it. Like, the refs, they were getting off on it. Yeah, common foul happens. I would not say common. That's basketball. Well, you're not a ref. Speaking of Friday night. I am a ref.

39:50PFT Commenter:Speaking of Friday night, LeBron, what he did on Friday night was pretty insane. The three to take them into overtime. They're playing right now. But the three to take them into overtime.

40:01Big Cat:I mean, throwing an alley-oop to your son in the playoffs, that's cool. There's nothing you can say about that. That's an awesome thing that he got to do. Well, there's one thing you could say, but I'm not going to hate.

40:13PFT Commenter:Bronny should have dunked it. I was going to say, that's not an alley-oop. That's a pass. I think it's an alley-oop. I get it, but still. If I told you, hey, come see this cool alley-oop, you're expecting a dunk. I mean, if it's father-son. I get it, and I'm not hating because it is a very cool moment. It's an unreal moment. All the stats are like LeBron's first playoff game, and it's just Bronny as a one-year-old. The whole thing. Someone put it perfectly. He's like, LeBron literally made a teammate to throw passes to. He made them. And it's crazy. The fact he's doing it at 41 is just absolutely nuts.

40:50PFT Commenter:The Rockets were favorites in this series, and LeBron with no Luka, it just defies all logic, and he just keeps doing it, and it's nuts. There's nothing you can say other than LeBron is unreal to watch and everyone should actually enjoy it because you don't know if this might be the last.

41:08Big Cat:I do agree that he should have dunked it, but that's one of the coolest things that ever happened in the NBA. Yeah. I mean, I don't even really. In a playoff game, yeah. I love laughing at LeBron James. He's one of the best basketball players of all time, but I love it when he does his goofy shit. Yeah. And he's funny to laugh at. This was objectively like. Very much. Very much so. His son, he made his son get drafted by his team. That part was a little bit bullshit. But you can't say anything when he's in the playoffs and he's winning games and he's throwing alley-oops.

41:37PFT Commenter:And he also got the steal, then the three-pointers to take it into overtime and win in overtime. It was just insane. Yeah, the whole thing. All-time collapse.

41:45Big Cat:I mean, the Rockets, like the... E-May just threw... That was one of the most brutal press conferences ever after. He just threw them onto the bus.

41:52PFT Commenter:I think it was the second time ever that a team had lost when they were up six with 30 seconds left in the NBA. I think the other one was Halliburton last year against the Knicks in the playoffs. Yeah, and what is going on with Kevin Durant? Don't know. He just didn't show up to Game 3. Is he there right now? He's there right now. He is there right now. He's on the board? I mean, listen, we've gone back and forth. We've said some things about Kevin Durant, but I think we've also defended him at times. This is a sad way for him to go out. like this Rockets team not showing up for your team when you're injured in the playoffs.

42:32PFT Commenter:It's just – and has he – has a Kevin Durant team won a playoff series since 2021? I don't think so. That was obviously when he almost – The foot. He almost took the Nets to the NBA Finals. Yeah, the foot.

42:46Big Cat:I think it's won since 2019.

42:49PFT Commenter:That would be that season. Yeah, because the next year was the reverse whomping, right? the next year was the reverse swapping when he was on the Nets. Then, yeah, it's been bad. And then the Suns' Kevin Durant was bad. It's not. Conversations, uncomfortable conversations. Will he ever win a ring? Good thing is he does not care about his legacy and what people online say about it.

43:14Big Cat:No, I mean, he's got to. I'd like to see him win a championship before he retires. I'm not sure that he's going to at this point. The good thing is this won't bother Kevin Durant for the next 40 years while he sits online. What do you think he's going to do when he retires? Sit online. You think he's going to continue to be as online? Maybe more. But maybe not because I feel like gradually, the longer he is out of the game, the less people will be talking about Kevin Durant. And so the less reason he'll have to be online to read all the shit people are saying.

43:42PFT Commenter:Yeah, but then all it takes is one top five player to go join a super team, and it will just be Kevin Durant discourse again. The bat signal will go off, and he'll be like, I have to get to my burners.

43:54Big Cat:Right. And then the crazy thing will be Kevin Durant will probably root against that guy to win. Yeah. And then if he does, he'll get mad at people for not saying enough that he's ring chasing. Yeah. Because Kevin Durant had to do with all that stuff.

44:07PFT Commenter:Yeah.

44:07Big Cat:Also, they just need Steven Adams back. Yeah. Steven Adams makes this a much different team.

44:13PFT Commenter:Hank, isn't it pretty crazy that when Ime Odoka did the thing that he did that we still don't really know what he did, the Celtics actually won? Big time. That's crazy. Yeah. Like, that was a coach at the time who was considered one of the top, you know, five coaches in the NBA, had remade the Celtics, had taken him to the finals. He does the thing that, again, we don't know what he did, but he did something bad. Gets fired. Everyone's like, what the hell happened? Joe Missoula, who no one, you know, people knew who he was, but now they're like, oh, this guy isn't very good. And now you would take Joe Missoula a thousand times over a thousand times.

44:52PFT Commenter:but especially Emeo Doka. Yeah. Because the Rockets are a game away from it. It might be when you're listening to this, it might have already been eliminated of having decent regular seasons, good regular seasons even last year, and then being eliminated right away.

45:05Big Cat:And the way he was talking in the press conference was crazy. He basically was just like, yeah, young guys couldn't handle the pressure. They weren't ready for it. They're bad. It's like that's... That's your job. Yeah. That is quite literally your job. Speak out what you're saying is there was a coach for Boston and he got his team all the way to the finals. They didn't win, and then something happened. I did say that. Personally, and then he got fired. I did say that. And then the next guy came in and was much better. I did say that. That's interesting. Just something to think about. It is something to think about.

45:36Big Cat:Are you thinking about it? I'm very happy with how things ended up for us.

45:39PFT Commenter:Something to think about. Let's give him something to think about. Think about it.

45:42Big Cat:Okay.

45:43PFT Commenter:You're thinking about it right now. I am thinking about it right now.

45:47Big Cat:I'm happy that we ended up with Joe Mazzullo.

45:49PFT Commenter:So you could end up with Josh McDaniels.

45:52Big Cat:He's a great coach. Those things aren't. Those things aren't. What are you talking about? He's a guy that's been hired like two different franchises. We're like, let's get this guy to run. And almost a third, the Colts. Yeah. He basically has been our head coach three times. If Jim Irsay didn't take a massive shit in his house, he would have been the Colts head coach. I like Josh McDaniels a lot. He's a good coach. Okay. Hank's statement on the Patriots coaching. I like Josh McDaniels a lot he's a good coach

46:20PFT Commenter:on the current Patriots coaching situation yes but I'll die for Vrabel your what? that part's not going in the quote card that could actually be a different quote card I'll die for Vrabel because that would look bad for other reasons

46:37Big Cat:yeah depending on how you spell that

46:43come on

46:47PFT Commenter:that's what you said i did say that and you know our guys don't know how to spell no yeah so they might not know to throw an e on there i would whatever i still would i'd die for very able to just shook his head he's like i got it all right i needed i got it i would have never got it if you didn't do that we had to spell it out pretty good yeah yeah yeah that was a new segment let's

47:08Big Cat:Give them something to think about.

47:09PFT Commenter:Okay. Other games. I can't believe it, but you know what? I think I'm allowed to do this because 10 days ago, the Orlando Magic lost to the G League Celtics with a game that had consequences for them. And now they're sitting here as the 8 seed up 2-1 on the Pistons. I think I'm just a believer in the Magic now. I know I said I wanted them out. They might win it all. You believe again? They might win it all. They got healthy. They weren't healthy all year. Yeah, very dangerous. Desmond Bain did. The reason why you brought in Desmond Bain was for Saturday's game. He went seven for nine from three.

47:47PFT Commenter:They have scoring options. Franz was awesome. And it is just a brutal matchup for the Pistons. This is where I'm at because I'm like, should I put a future on the Magic? I don't think the Magic are going to win the NBA title. I don't think they're going to go to the NBA finals. I do think they're going to beat the Pistons because the Pistons don't have. like the magic are just bigger and stronger and especially guard like kate cunningham doesn't have anyone smaller to pick on it's just a bad matchup jill and duran is is you can't play him right now like he just can't do anything i yeah the magic i'm a i'm a magic i'm i'm all in on the

48:25Big Cat:magic right now i think that the i think pistons are still going to pull it off i don't know dude It's 2-1. A lot of basketball left.

48:32PFT Commenter:The matchup is very bad for the Pistons because they just don't have enough scoring. And the Magic are a team that can match the Pistons in terms of size and toughness. So I just think matchup-wise it's just very difficult.

48:47Big Cat:I think that's a very good description of what happened on Saturday. Yeah. That's very good, but I don't think that that's going to happen every night.

48:53PFT Commenter:Yeah. Like, if this was Pistons versus the Knicks, Cade Cunningham would be roasting Jalen Brunson and switches and everything. He would just be going after them. But you can't do that against Suggs. You can't do, like, Impalo. Like, they just got guys. I don't know. I think you could do it against Suggs. They didn't do it on Saturday against Suggs.

49:10Big Cat:Yeah, he's a good defender. But I do think that you could do it against Suggs.

49:13PFT Commenter:I did break my vow to the podcast that I was not going to watch any of the Thunder Suns game. I actually did, in fact, because Saturday was a picture-perfect day, and I opened up the rooftop in my house. So I had the TV on, and it happened to coincide with when the game was on. So I was like, I guess I'm going to watch some of this. I did watch, so apologies. What I did see, SGA was simply lights out. Just out of control good. Not free throw merchant good. I'm talking great MVP, best player in the world, good. 15 for 18 from the field. Just couldn't miss. And yeah, this series is over. But I actually was happy I tuned in because I got to see SGA be awesome.

50:01PFT Commenter:I stood by my vows and did not watch this game. But SGA was awesome.

50:05Big Cat:SGA is always awesome.

50:06PFT Commenter:Yeah.

50:07Big Cat:We should remind people that he's the best player in the world. He missed four shots. With the ball in his head, I would say. Including free throws. Missed four shots.

50:16PFT Commenter:Yeah, pretty crazy. Yeah. Memes congrats season saved Season saved That's the team I believe in Yeah the Knicks were It was crazy because in a round one game I don't know if you felt this Memes but I was saying to myself as the game Came out I was like this is kind of just The entire Iteration of this Knicks team is at stake tonight Yeah like if they lose this game they probably Lose the series and then you just got to trade Everyone Yeah no absolutely but my guy cat I fucking love Cat Cat remembered he's the biggest most skilled guy out there And was just like yeah I'm bigger than everyone And I'm better than everyone

50:55Big Cat:Yeah they just Triple double They just gotta take care of business two more times And then we're on to Boston So if you lose in the second round is that a failure of a season? No Boston Celtics is a very good team But you beat them last year You're built to beat them We are built to beat them So that would be a regression We gotta take care of the Hawks But I'm not talking about that I'm talking about if you don't beat the Celtics. You just said if you lose to the Hawks in the first round, failure. Capital F. Failure. Right? Capital F, failure. But winner of that series is going to the finals.

51:29Big Cat:Okay. But then if you don't beat the Celtics, would that be a failure of a season? Because you're built specifically to beat them. And you beat them last year. There's no failure in sports. And in your words, they're worse. No, there's no failure in sports. Hank Lockwood. He said that? Oh, yeah. Giannis said that, I thought. Yeah, but then Hank doubled down. So you would not consider that a failure losing to Hank? I would, personally. No, so that was a very good team. I think you have to hold yourself to a higher standard.

51:57PFT Commenter:I don't like that you're not cocky anymore. I liked when you were Connor for the first. We got to get out of the first round. We got to get out of the first round. You're coming. I want to come so bad, but we got to focus on the Hawks. You got to focus on the Hawks. Do you have anything to say about Ben Stiller tweeting, got it done after?

52:14Big Cat:Ben Stiller just wants to tweet about the Knicks and every single time he just gets ratioed and some of the people that were replying to him they were so mad at him

52:25PFT Commenter:so they were he tweeted got it done around the same time that there was the assassination attempt at the White House Correspondents Dinner and everyone was like what do you mean by got it done like he just got all political Twitter it was so clear he was talking about the Knicks right

52:40Big Cat:now did John Rothstein have a tweet Oh, I don't know. We got to go see if he tweeted about it. I'm sure he did. I do have... We're going to stick to sports. I want to know what the trick was that Oz the mentalist was doing at the time.

52:53PFT Commenter:Also, I mean, I'm sure this comment had been said.

52:55Big Cat:Was that the trick that he was doing? But the comment's been said, I'm sure, but Oz has to retire.

53:02PFT Commenter:Why? How do you not see that coming? But that's what I'm saying. Maybe that was part of the trick. But you got to know that there's an assassination attempt coming. The one guy you want next to you when your life is on the line about to be threatened is O's the mentalist. But what if that was part of the illusion? I'm just saying he knows everything. He knows the first girl you kissed. He knew my pin number. He knew everything. How do you not be like, hey, dude, there's someone coming down the hallway for you?

53:29Big Cat:But can you imagine if at the end of this guy's manifesto, you scroll to the last page and it's the card that Donald Trump thought of in the magic trick? It's the Super Bowl winner for next year.

53:39PFT Commenter:Yeah.

53:40Big Cat:That's the... We need to wait for all the facts to come out. So he's either a complete fraud or it's the greatest illusion that he's ever done.

53:47PFT Commenter:Yes. Yes.

53:48Big Cat:Oh, he's come on the program to discuss.

53:49PFT Commenter:Congrats, though, memes. Good job. And then the Timberwolves, the T-dubs, win. The Nuggets are so sad. But what the real story is that the Timberwolves continue to be the most cursed. Minnesota continues to be the most cursed city. The Timberwolves are cursed. Anthony Edwards hyper extends his knee. DiVincenzo tears his Achilles. And then it was the IO show who was so fucking good. Yeah. IO scored 43. And I think he missed. I think he missed four shots as well. He was insane. He was special. He couldn't believe it. That it was five for five from three. 13 for 17 from the field. And listen, I know there's a lot of people like, hey, I can't believe the Bulls traded him.

54:33PFT Commenter:You got to remember that we got four second round picks for him. Which, if I do my math right, Iowa was a second-round pick. So we got four IOs. You 4X'd him. Yeah, we 4X'd him.

54:44Big Cat:So tell me a trade where you can 4X the guy you got. Here's my big takeaway from this. Dante DiVincenzo tore his Achilles, right? Yeah. So did Jason Tatum. So did Halliburton. So did Dame. Do you know what the common thread between those four guys is?

55:03PFT Commenter:I do because I saw the tweet, but I'll let you say it.

55:06Big Cat:They all wear the number zero.

55:07PFT Commenter:Yeah.

55:08Big Cat:And it's all happened like the last year and a half. So you got to watch out. Look out for Maxie. What's on your shirt right now? PFT. This is the letter O for Osos. Looks like a zero. This is O. Walks carefully, dude. This is O for Osos. Kind of. But you're making a great point. Oh, no. I was not thinking about that. Fortunately, I'm healthy as a horse. Yeah, 100%. So we're good to go. You're walking fine. We're doing great over here, guys. I'm happy for Io. I'm happy for Io, too. That was so sick. Yeah.

55:44PFT Commenter:He just needed to get out of the play-in and into the playoffs,

55:47Big Cat:and he became a killer. But with Dante and Ant out, all they got to do is win one more. And right now, I think they're still favorites to win the series, but shockingly low favorites considering it's a 3-1 series right now. I think it's minus 145. I might take the Timberwolves. Yeah. I bet on them yesterday. The Nuggets are a mess right now. Nuggets are a mess. I bet on the Timberwolves last night at minus 145 to win the series. You just got to win one more.

56:13PFT Commenter:Also, this is what the – have we not learned anything that the Timberwolves – this is the third year in a row that they get into the playoffs in the first round. They are significant underdogs, and then they beat their first – like soundly, they win the first round. Remember they did it against the – who was it last year? Lakers last year, Suns the year before. That was the sweep. KD, Suns. This is what the Nuggets do. I mean, the Timberwolves do. I don't know what's going on with Jokic. I will say, I don't know how I'm going to say this respectfully. He looked bitch made? Yeah, he was a bitch.

56:48PFT Commenter:That was a bitch move by him. That was a bitch move. He just didn't do anything. Okay, so for anyone who missed it, the game's over, and Mike Conley Mike Conley by the way very funny after the game he was like I knew right away that I screwed up when I threw him that pass he's like you could see me put my head down throws a pass to Jay McDaniels with five seconds left and Jay McDaniels goes and takes a layup which is unspoken rule not supposed to do the Timberwolves were up by 14 at the time they ended up winning by 16 you could sprints down the court, gets in his face. Dude, here's my biggest problem with this.

57:31PFT Commenter:If it's an unspoken rule that you're not supposed to do that, Jamal Murray chucked a three with eight seconds left when he didn't have to, when the clock was expiring. If Jamal Murray just does, if he just runs out the clock, then there's no problem. So I don't know why you can say it works one way.

57:47Big Cat:Yeah, it's just he's pissed off. He's mad that they lost. He heard that somebody stole his underwear. He's taken out of the nearest guy to him. He ran down and then got to a point where he could have done something and then just kind of just ran down. Oh, no, Jay McDaniel's a real dude.

57:59PFT Commenter:I know. Jay McDaniel's kind of got him. Jay McDaniel's Icy Vert, Jokic, Pickensburg. Yeah, the press. That's what happened. It was a full-court press. It looks like there's going to be another press. Oh! It looks like there's going to be another press. All right, save that. We'll use it for who's back. Max, I'm going to go to you for who's back, and I want all the details on the next press. I might go. I might fly in for the next press.

58:21Big Cat:Fucking Rudy Gobert putting himself in the middle of this And somehow, I think Rudy Gobert came off looking like more of a bitch even than Jokic. Let Jade McDaniels handle it. Jade McDaniels was handling it really well.

58:32PFT Commenter:Yeah. But it's just, the Nuggets look bad. And they, Jokic, like, he can't. They're basically trying to make him a shooter. And he's not shooting well. Didn't hit a three again. And the Timberwolves are awesome. Like, they're just fun to watch. And it just sucks that they got, they won this game to go up 3-1. Incredible night in Minnesota. to, oh, yeah, but two of your best players get injured, one of them out for a year plus.

59:00Big Cat:Yeah, so it sounds like, well, maybe not a year plus. Yeah. Tatum came back. True. So with Ant, it looks like he'll be out for a couple weeks minimum. That looks so nasty. It did. It was one of those things where you thought, like, PCL, MCL, but they said no ligament damage, just like a bone bruise from the hyperextension. And then afterwards, I don't know what happened with Jokic in the underwear. Did you see that story? Yeah. So after the game, he said that someone stole his underwear. Then they retracted that report and said that the underwear had been found. It might be like this is his Jussie Smollett moment.

59:33Big Cat:Yeah. He might have just been so mad that he misplaced his pants. We've all been there before. But then he went to the media first about it before trying to actually locate the underwear. I want to know some more logistics behind that. Did they have a full – was there a search party looking for his underwear in the locker room? I don't know. But it was a story that got put out. They knew it would make a big splash and then like immediately retracted. What happened?

1:00:00PFT Commenter:I just hate that I have to call Jokic a bitch, but we got to call it like we see it, right? He did. That was great. I love Jokic. Also, I found out Nuggets fans don't really like the if you like, hey, he just I thought when I initially saw it, I was like, Jokic just wants to go home. He wants to get suspended. Just go home.

1:00:19Big Cat:Well, if you want to get suspended, he could have done that. He could have like thrown thrown a punch. Yeah. So nobody got suspended just fines, which I think is what everybody's looking for. We don't want Sam.

1:00:29PFT Commenter:I fucking hate it. I love Jokic, but man, he'll figure it out. You just can't. There's really no way to end up, especially in today's like in 2026. You can't quote unwritten rules and look good. If you get aggressive about an unwritten rule, you're going to pretty much always look like a loser because almost all the time you're mad because you're losing. It's just you can't. There's nothing. Maybe 30 years ago, because then it would have been a real fight. And it would have been like, yeah, you don't do that to another man.

1:01:00Big Cat:On baseball. But today you can't do that. You can handle it. Make a guy wear one of the ribs.

1:01:03PFT Commenter:Right. But even then. Yeah. When a pitcher gets mad about a bat flip, everyone universally now is like, hey, don't give up a home run. Yeah. We've kind of course corrected on unwritten rules being like, you know who actually is the loser here? The guy who's losing.

1:01:20Big Cat:there's some unwritten rules that i guess kind of makes sense but it's almost always you're

1:01:24PFT Commenter:losing the game yeah and the other team does something and then you're like you can't do that well you can't don't lose the game what if you're up three scores in football and you line up for a and then throw a hail mary for a fourth score who would do that i'm just saying there are some unwritten rules that are like that would be bullshit did that no one ever did that i'm just saying who did that i'm that never happened i'm trying to i'm trying to figure out i'm gonna get

1:01:52Big Cat:myself into it yeah i'm trying to say that would get us yeah i'm trying to get you that would piss you off well the james winston they they were inside the five yeah hail mary hail mary would piss you off i'm trying to think of an unwritten rule that would piss that would piss you off

1:02:06PFT Commenter:yeah but still even after that you you the the coach would be like you can't do that like

1:02:11Big Cat:don't lose it pisses me off in traffic when people don't obey the unwritten rule of of

1:02:16PFT Commenter:the zipper system we mean like everyone going alternate yeah yeah yeah fold in yeah i don't

1:02:22Big Cat:like it when people try to take advantage of that

1:02:27PFT Commenter:Yeah. When someone speeds past everyone. Yeah. Use the shoulder. No, that is bullshit. But that might actually be a real rule. No, I don't think that's a real. No, the shoulder is, but there's sometimes there's like a long line for an exit. Right. And then someone will just go. But you see what I'm saying? But not in the shoulder. Like they'll go in the left lane, go all the way down. I still think you get pulled over for that. No, I think you might be able to. Definitely not. Cop could just be like unwritten rules. I'm pissed. All right, so now we're back in on a couple unwritten rules. There's a couple.

1:03:00PFT Commenter:All right, fine. But for the most part, most unwritten rules are someone loses and is upset they're losing and then says you're a bad sport. Unwritten rules are for Little League baseball, not for professional sports.

1:03:15Big Cat:Oh, I saw a major, major unwritten rule violation the other day, which I think we should actually correct and write rules. We need to write down some of the unwritten rules. Okay. The Little League team, where all the guys had GoPros on their helmets. Okay. And the guy steps up to the plate, crushes a monster dong, smashes the bat on the ground, and starts running around the bases and pretty much doing cartwheels. Yeah. And his teammates have the boombox going, did you see this clip? I did not, but I'm watching it now. So the whole team, they've got GoPros.

1:03:51PFT Commenter:Yeah, see, this is different, though, because these are kids. Yeah. I actually do think unwritten rules in sportsmanship should matter for kids. When you're a professional athlete, there is no such thing as sportsmanship. The parents. Yeah. Yeah, no, these parents suck. So I actually - He's got like the Barry Bonds, you know, all the gear. Yeah, then he dunks afterwards.

1:04:11Big Cat:Oh, yeah. Then he dunks. So I didn't hate this that much until I noticed that they're wearing GoPros on their helmets.

1:04:17PFT Commenter:Yeah, no, this is brutal.

1:04:18Big Cat:That sucks. This is - That radicalized me.

1:04:20PFT Commenter:Yeah, for kids, you got to teach them how to play the right way. Yeah. So that someday some of them might be pros where they don't have to worry about unwritten rules. You want a GoPro? Then don't wear one.

1:04:31Big Cat:Facts. That was a great one. Strong. Strong.

1:04:37PFT Commenter:Real strong.

1:04:39Big Cat:Wemby's back, so that series is over. Wemby's so back. So back. So back. So calm and control. Yep. And then the Cavs. How many blocks did he have today? He had maybe eight blocks? I think so. He was just dominant. He had 27-12 in seven blocks.

1:04:54PFT Commenter:Dominant performance out of Wimby. And then the Cavs-Raptors series, it's the mid-off. It's a total mid-off. I think the Raptors won the game shooting 32 % from the field. Also, James Harden, he's done. He doesn't want to do this anymore. He's gone. You think? Yeah. But no, but usually it would take at least until game six.

1:05:20Big Cat:Game 4 you start to see the cracks No but it started The cracks started game 3 Game 5 he might bounce back a little bit Then game 6 he can truly paint a masterpiece with it But you're right when it comes to the shooting It was bad Cleveland missed 33 pointers

1:05:36PFT Commenter:Cleveland shot 37 % So that's how you lose a game when the opponent shoots

1:05:40Big Cat:And Toronto missed 26 3 pointers so that is Hank you're the math guy 30 plus 26 56 There were 56 missed three-pointers in this game.

1:05:51PFT Commenter:But, yeah, James Harden went. Game one, eight made field goals, four turnovers. Game two, nine made field goals, five turnovers. And then the last two games, he has more turnovers than made field goals. Game three, five made field goals, eight turnovers. Game four, six made field goals, seven turnovers. It's over. He doesn't want to do this anymore. They're done. But this is such a mid-off. I mean the fact that I think it was the worst shooting performance in the three point era that has ever won a playoff game Is it really?

1:06:20Big Cat:I think I saw that stat Four for 30 from three Yeah, Harden now has 44 of those games that you talked about Big Cat where he's got more turnovers than field goals Pretty crazy And one other thing with the Blazers-Spurs series that's two games in a row where they've blown at least 15 point leads in the second half.

1:06:42PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. It's, oh, the Blazers Spurs are saying. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. They were up there. The Blazers had a big second quarter and then they just got smoked in the third and fourth. Listen, you need to have t-shirts to win. Gotta have the t-shirts to win. Hawks, I bet the Knicks, the minute I saw the Hawks were doing rally towels.

1:07:01Big Cat:Yeah, gotta have a full shirt for that. I think, I saw a lot of people that seem to have coordinated themselves. I like that. Like wearing their, they like sent out a mass email diy shirts being like hey guys just so you know we're all wearing a rip city t-shirts today love that and then it was like a noble it was a noble effort but how big can that email thread possibly get it was probably like 12 of the people that were wearing that same

1:07:25PFT Commenter:shirt yeah but still like i appreciate the organization from they're trying to do it yeah um hey do you for who's back the week do you have your baseball team yeah okay so we can talk about it there um and we're going to talk all hockey with ryan whitney in a second before we do that who's back of the week twisted teas are refreshing hard ice tea made with real brewed tea and five percent alcohol twisted tea is the perfect drink to keep the good times going all day and all season long whether you're hanging out at a friend's house catching a game at the stadium or at the bar or day drinking with friends twisted tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time a great time grab a refreshing twisted tea today we love the original the half and half the peach twisted tea go get it today twisted tea hank who's back the week yeah my who's back the

1:08:13Big Cat:week is uh i guess not really the red socks they fired five of their coaches uh sent them on a plane home alex cora hitting coach third base coach jason baratek red socks legend he wasn't

1:08:28PFT Commenter:he wasn't fired he was he was kidnapped he was kidnapped did you not see that tweet no it seemed like a kidnapping was like jason veritech has not been uh fired he's been reassigned and we will update where like you just let him go dude what are you doing yeah what is reassigning that means like we're going to invent a job for him yeah yeah reassigned to a new role within the organization

1:08:53Big Cat:a new role that doesn't exist yet right which is likely a reflection of his standing as former red sox captain two-time world series champ yeah that just yeah just cut him loose just let him go He's the special envoy. All his friends just got fired. Special envoy for the Shield of the Americas, Jason Veritek. They're 10 and 17. I mean, they're terrible. They're 10 and 17. They lost 17 to one the other day. The Orioles ran out of fireworks, which is like embarrassing as it gets for a baseball team when they had to put up on the scoreboard, like, no more fireworks after home runs were out of pyro.

1:09:23Big Cat:I would say embarrassing also for the Orioles. I don't know. You can't really account. If you're the pyro department, it's like, what? You know? you always gotta have more I guess yeah it's a lot of pyro we make fun of Tom Dundon for not getting the t-shirts Rubenstein the owner of the Orioles he's fucking loaded he owns the Declaration of Independence maybe put a little extra in the budget line for fireworks dude yeah they probably have to reassess after that I was reading about it online if you search it's like Liverpool owner because John Henry owns it all the BBC and English outlets made it seem like they fired the Liverpool coaches because it was like Liverpool owner sacks five coaches and like shocking.

1:10:08Big Cat:Like they were painting it for people to shit on John Henry, which I appreciate it. I don't, I just can't understand.

1:10:16PFT Commenter:He's got money, right? They're cheap. He doesn't care. He's got money. They're spending it on other franchises.

1:10:22Big Cat:But Liverpool, that's where like the Liverpool and Boston fan bases, they all hate them too. Like they did like a protest or they were all kind of wearing sell-the-team shirts because they're raising the prices there. He's just... All he cares about is money.

1:10:36PFT Commenter:I saw Alex Corp.

1:10:38Big Cat:He just buys teams that their fans are super loyal.

1:10:41PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:10:41Big Cat:Well, I mean, the Red Sox, they were in there from the beginning. But then once they started buying all the other teams, they just don't care about the Red Sox or winning for any of their teams.

1:10:50PFT Commenter:What else does he own?

1:10:51Big Cat:Liverpool. And I think a couple other ones. I saw Alex Corp. They own a racing. They own a racing team.

1:11:01PFT Commenter:That's got to hurt. What if the racing team is just awesome? That would hurt.

1:11:04Big Cat:Here's the Penguins.

1:11:06PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah. He does own the Penguins.

1:11:08Big Cat:RFK Racing. That's where you run over Baron, you put it in the back of your van, and then take it to Central Park.

1:11:18PFT Commenter:How are they doing? The golf team. TGL?

1:11:22Big Cat:I don't know. I think they've made it to the playoffs.

1:11:25PFT Commenter:Okay. Okay. Oh, yeah.

1:11:28Big Cat:He owns the Boston Globe? Yeah. He owns everything. So does the Boston Globe report critically on him? No. How could you? That was a dumb question. Yeah. Very dumb question. That's really smart. Yeah, they're a disaster. That's like supervillain shit where you're like, I'm going to buy the local paper so they never say anything bad.

1:11:46PFT Commenter:Isn't that everyone does that now? Yeah. Bezos. Bezos, yeah. Yeah, the do you know the last time that a team had fired their manager after winning a game by 16 plus runs? Because that was a crazy thing. They won 17 to one, right? Or something like that. 1887. That's how long it's been when the when the Mets beat the spiders, Cleveland spiders. You're making history.

1:12:16Big Cat:Yeah, it's tough. I mean, it's like they sent him on a plane. They got him like a private plane to go home. They should get out of here.

1:12:23PFT Commenter:That was nice of him. Yeah. Do you see that quote from Bradford from an anonymous Red Sox alumni?

1:12:30Big Cat:Is he your GM? What did he say? He said, woke up to a text from a former Red Sox player who summed up Saturday's moves. It's like shitting your pants and changing your shirt. Yeah. Breslow's my GM.

1:12:41PFT Commenter:Breslow.

1:12:44Big Cat:But nothing's going to change. If they're still in charge, nothing's going to change. That's what he's saying, yeah. Right. The stain runs deep. But I guess it's something, right? No. Until they're out, nothing's going to change. I saw Hogdale right afterwards celebrating. He was like, this is a win.

1:13:00PFT Commenter:But I get a lot of my news from our good friend, Jared Karabas. He said Alex Corr is great. He loves Alex Corr, right? Yeah, he was a good manager. Didn't he get fired and then come back? Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, did he get suspended for a year? Yeah, from the iPhone. Astros. Yeah, yeah. The battery. No, the.

1:13:21Big Cat:I think he was Astros, then Red Sox, then.

1:13:24PFT Commenter:No, he was out for a year and then came back. Yeah. Was it the Apple Watch thing?

1:13:31Big Cat:He coached the Red Sox after. He was the Texans bench coach or whatever when that all happened. And then he coached the Red Sox after, yeah. Yeah, the Astros bench coach during that. Yeah.

1:13:41PFT Commenter:Okay. You're who's back.

1:13:44Big Cat:PFT. my who's back of the week is Papa John. Remember the Papa? Yeah. He's back. Louisville's bringing him back. They said, sorry, Papa. Sorry to sideline you all these years. We could use your money. NIL is kind of a thing for us now. So welcome back. And they kind of apologized to him, which is kind of funny. They just basically said, we recognize the decisions made years ago. We're based on the information available at the time. We have a greater perspective of the facts that have emerged since then, And considering those developments, UofL now acknowledges that the university will approach the situation differently based on our current understanding and believe the best path forward is to unite in our shared commitment to supporting UofL.

1:14:28Big Cat:So Papa John, the mega booster, is back because of NIL.

1:14:32PFT Commenter:I love that.

1:14:33Big Cat:Good for him. Good for Papa. He served his time.

1:14:35PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:14:36Big Cat:He's one of the weirdest sounding guys that you'll ever hang out with. In my experience, I met him at the Super Bowl about like 10 years ago. Yeah, I met him with something as well. And I stood next to him, and we took a picture together holding up a jersey. And I've never heard a man make the sounds that Papa John makes. He's just like standing around.

1:14:55PFT Commenter:Yeah, he's just oily and just wet.

1:14:57Big Cat:I can do an impression of him. Like mincey? If you'd like. Yeah, a little bit. Actually, kind of. This is what Papa John, this is what it sounds like to stand next to Papa John.

1:15:12Big Cat:anyways he makes pretty decent pizza i guess um so i'm glad for the university of louisville um so papa's back and then top gun's back they're doing top gun three top three is now officially entered into production and i am putting on a full court press to try to get like one second of screen time in it as an extra i think i can do what What if you had to go on a plane for it? Yeah, what if it's a guy who has nothing to do with planes? Doesn't matter. Okay. Like one second of screen time. Maybe even a guy that doesn't know shit about planes and gets school.

1:15:45PFT Commenter:Yeah, you wouldn't have to act for that.

1:15:47Big Cat:I wouldn't have to act. They could actually just film me walking down the runway, and I'd misidentify something. Did you ever figure out that plane that you were staring at? Yeah, dude, I did. I did after like 15 seconds. It was an AC-130. He was just staring at a plane, getting so angry that he couldn't figure it out. Yeah, on Friday. And then Max asked me what it was, and I couldn't remember what it was because I thought it was a C3, and it was an AC-130. And the guy that was working at the airport had to explain to me what it was. And then I was like, oh, yeah, I actually own an entire game that is doing nothing but simulating flying in a C-130.

1:16:19PFT Commenter:You did the White Sox Dave Dozen trivia move?

1:16:22Big Cat:I was going to say that. I literally had that answer. I wasn't going to say that. I was about to say that. I did the opposite of that. I acknowledged how bad of an error it was and how stupid I am for not getting it.

1:16:33PFT Commenter:I just remember I watched you just stand there staring at a plane. I just walked away. I was like, this might take a while. I was so excited. Max was so pumped. Because I could tell that you didn't know. It was like a magic eye poster who's crossing his eyes trying to figure it out. Well, normally PFT, it's his favorite thing of just like a plane is around and he'll just go like, 247 Raptor, right there, right there. And none of us care. None of us care. None of us ask.

1:17:00Big Cat:247 Raptors, not a plane fucking idiot. So he was just looking at this one. I'm like, he hasn't said what this is yet. He definitely doesn't know. But then later on, I spot an F-18 in your face. Yeah, but F-18, that's the easiest one. I fucked this one up. But anyways, Top Gun 3 is happening. Jerry O 'Connell was in a movie with Jerry Bruckheimer. Jerry Bruckheimer is producing it. I need to ask Jerry to get me set up with something in Top Gun 3. Something. Please, Jerry. We can do this together.

1:17:29PFT Commenter:All right. My who's back is Fernando Mendoza because he has been on the Raiders for one day and he dropped a fucking. So he code switched to the Raiders. I was shocked. He said, Raiders, let's fucking go. Spends one day with Max Crosby. He's just swearing everywhere. It sounds like Tom Brady got to him. Yeah. I mean, was the flipping thing just to get drafted one overall? I don't know. Maybe he just wanted to hang out with Kirk Cousins. Yeah. Yeah, it was shocking to hear him say that. Also, who's back is anti-Italian discrimination because I tagged Max in this, but there's a gentleman. I don't know if it's this gentleman, but Chirizzi tweeted this.

1:18:10PFT Commenter:A guy got banned or was told at the White Sox game that he is not allowed to hold up the Italian flag during the game. No way. Yeah. When was that? Max, we got to do something about this. I don't know. I like this guy. I do, too. Max took one. I showed it to Max. Max just goes, that's a good looking Italian man. When was that? He's a strong Italian. He is a strong Italian. The tweet was today.

1:18:33Big Cat:Yeah, I think it was today. Yeah, disgusting. Disgusting. What would the Pope say about that? That's what I'd like to know. Great question. Great question. Really great question. I'd like to know what the Pope would say. Come on, part of my take to discuss Pope. Zach. My Who's Back of the Week this week is going to be people who think speed is more impressive than figure skating because we did get the two fastest marathon times of all time today what's this i hear about the shoes the shoes faster than you could run 100 we talking carbon plates in the shoes yeah exactly the carbon plate super shoe yeah i'm hearing is a thing right so like what is that it just the the carbon plate just returns so much energy on the bounce to like a lot of the shoes are getting banned and then they make some of them make them into races then immediately get taken out so two guys in the same race yeah same race

1:19:23PFT Commenter:today one of the gentlemen 434 mile pace for 26 miles is so fucking insane it's not that impressive

1:19:34Big Cat:that's insane how wait so how that's insane how many miles per hour is that

1:19:41PFT Commenter:i don't know like what's the average those type of questions why not well if it's it's right at

1:19:45Big Cat:It's two hours and it's 26 miles, probably right at 13 miles an hour. 13 miles an hour. So that's a full-on sprint. Yes. That's what I'm saying. It's a full-on sprint for two hours.

1:19:55PFT Commenter:Yeah, that's a minute. I mean, they're pacing at a minute and eight second 100-meter dashes or 400-meter dashes. That's too much math. That's crazy, though. If you go all the way around the track, that's going to take you more than a minute and eight seconds. So first sub two-hour marathon. marathon over and over and over we couldn't do we couldn't do one 400 meter dash faster than they

1:20:22Big Cat:are doing an entire marathon when was the first like modern marathon i'm not talking about the one that that happened at the battle like when did we first start running competitive marathons as a

1:20:31PFT Commenter:like for fun i don't know but this just made me think is there anyone who like records are meant to be break broken but roger banister really gets a lot of credit for a guy who probably would have gotten beaten if we had just recorded like i mean how did how did a english guy have the fastest mile in the world yeah that's just not come on and we all fucking sucked his dick forever yeah like oh you got the mile under four minutes i feel like we could have gone a lot of other places in the

1:21:03Big Cat:world and found faster miles yeah it's like oh but he just gets i mean we all know his name we

1:21:09PFT Commenter:all know roger banister's name that guy got lucky as fuck it's like bob koozie was the best basketball player ever it's crazy time it's crazy roger banister but he didn't even bob koozie at least won nba titles like could dribble and do cool stuff roger banister was just could run fast but

1:21:26Big Cat:it really was just the fastest guy in england his his claim to fame is that he like broke the mental barrier that everyone just thought that it was impossible in england right they had like a global a mass delusion across the entire continent and they were like uh yeah it's impossible to break four hours. And he was like, impossible, chaps? I think not. But then the second they opened it up.

1:21:46PFT Commenter:Look at that guy right there.

1:21:47Big Cat:The second they opened it up. Yeah. His shit gets crushed. You got fucking killed. Imagine how fast he would have ran if he had the shoes. Yeah, the carbon plates. That's a good point. The super shoes. We should get some carbon plate super shoes. It will make us.

1:21:59PFT Commenter:How much does that cost? About the same speed. Still slow. Probably.

1:22:04Big Cat:I think it makes you a little taller at PFT. I don't need that.

1:22:06PFT Commenter:What else you got, Zach?

1:22:08Big Cat:Another who's back That could be the LA Thieves because they did win the CDL minor today.

1:22:13PFT Commenter:Oh, okay, cool.

1:22:13Big Cat:So first, they got like two more online tournaments until Major 3 this week. Did Bush compete? No, this is CDL, so this is the professional league today. Got it. So Nate Johnson's team took it home. It'd be the Challengers League right underneath the CDL.

1:22:28PFT Commenter:Got it. Got it.

1:22:29Big Cat:Brotherhood's back, family.

1:22:30PFT Commenter:What?

1:22:32Big Cat:Fitzpatrick's.

1:22:32PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah.

1:22:33Big Cat:Oh, I thought you meant Duke. They're always back. they won a PGA Tour tournament. Matt Fitzpatrick's obviously on the PGA Tour. His brother's on the DP World Tour in the race to Dubai. Double penetration? It's like it's a team event so you don't need to be on the PGA Tour. There's like you know there's as long as one of your guys is there's other ways to get in. Could you get in? I don't think I could get in. But since they won it counts as like a regular PGA Tour win so his brother automatically gets his PGA Tour card and all the signature events next year.

1:23:07PFT Commenter:What was the setup for this? It was a scramble?

1:23:09Big Cat:It's...

1:23:09PFT Commenter:Alternate shot?

1:23:11Big Cat:One day, four ball, which is like best ball score between the two of you. One day, alternate shot. One day, best ball, alternate. Or alternate shot, best ball, alternate shot, best ball.

1:23:21PFT Commenter:So they're alternating alternate shot days. Yeah. Got it. Max, give it to us. What's going on? It's just that the Penguins didn't get swept So the series is going back to Pittsburgh So Pickensburg is now saying if Icy Vert goes to the game He will press him again? He will press him again Oh my god Oh I need it so bad

1:23:44Big Cat:Sir, a second press has just occurred

1:23:45PFT Commenter:Did you see the shirts? In the field outside Pittsburgh Speaking of shirts, do you see the shirts the Flyers are putting? The puck everybody? Yeah, the puck everybody I like those That's good Wow Pickensburg also just said 32 minutes ago I think I won the Icy Lib Dude, he just

1:24:01Big Cat:yeah he doesn't care though yeah he's not thinking about it he DM'd me to be like be honest who do you think won the press yeah it's the best which I like respect yeah he wants to know

1:24:10PFT Commenter:he's just like doing a poll he's obsessed with whether he won this press he didn't what I like that he's so obsessed with it if Icy Lib doesn't go to the game tomorrow yes Pickensburg won the press that means Pickensburg won the press yes absolutely but what if Icy Lib does go Pickensburg will try to press and hopefully not stutter. Yeah. Well, it's cold. It's cold in the arena. Don't fucking say that, Max. It was fucking cold in the arena. It's a hockey game, bro. It's true. It's a good point.

1:24:39Big Cat:I feel like Pickensburg's definitely written down his next press.

1:24:42PFT Commenter:Yeah. I mean, he has to go so hard. He can't do trans kids again, though.

1:24:45Big Cat:No, it's going to be memorized.

1:24:45PFT Commenter:He's got to do something different. You know what he has to do? He has to press him about the first press. Be like, show up and be like, people are saying I didn't win the first press. What do you think about that? you could ask him do you who do you think won yeah do you think i won that press yeah but make sure you put your hand on his shoulder yeah and press him about i noticed that you haven't been

1:25:05Big Cat:asking people who won the first press unconfident much yeah i did a seven hour spaces about this

1:25:12PFT Commenter:pressing i need more pressing i love it so much it's so stupid when did pressing start pressing i feel like it started like three years ago eli whitney yeah the gin like dudes didn't

1:25:26Big Cat:dudes didn't used to press each other back in the day.

1:25:28PFT Commenter:No, now guys, dudes are getting pressed all the time.

1:25:30Big Cat:It's socially acceptable for a man to press on another man.

1:25:33PFT Commenter:And you don't want to get caught in a pressing.

1:25:35Big Cat:But you have to be ready.

1:25:36PFT Commenter:Getting pressed has got to be one of the worst feelings in the world. You're just minding your own business. Boom. Next thing you know, pressed.

1:25:41Big Cat:Well, you can get pressed, but you got to win the press if it does happen. Right. And if you go, yeah, right. Protect yourself at all times.

1:25:48PFT Commenter:But actually, it goes even more so if you press, you got to make sure that you're confident you're going to win it.

1:25:52Big Cat:I got pressed on Saturday.

1:25:54PFT Commenter:If you get pressed and you lose the pressing, well, you didn't expect to get pressed. So there could be a little bit of like, hey, I wasn't ready. You pressed me out of nowhere. Right. But if you go up and press some guy and you don't win it, bro, what are you doing? And now Icy Lib's going to be prepared for the press. Yeah. Icy Lib should go press Pickensburg. That would be. Wow, that would be. Oh, man. That would. If he went and pressed him, find Pickensburg before he can find you. This is going to be a captain. Neither of these guys are going to watch a second of this game. No, this is art of worship.

1:26:25Big Cat:This is Sun Tzu. This is press your enemy before he has a chance to press you.

1:26:30PFT Commenter:They're buying$100 of tickets, and they're not going to see a second of this game. There's way too much at stake. Way too much. I really hope I see for it. I should DM him and be like, dude, you have to go. I might buy him a ticket. What if I bought Icy Lillard? What if you bought both of them tickets? Yes. In the same section? Yeah. Press off?

1:26:52Big Cat:Oh, man. I think the way you should do is buy them tickets close to each other. Don't tell them that the other guy is going to be in that same section. It's like the parent trap.

1:27:02PFT Commenter:I'm getting involved.

1:27:03Big Cat:Yeah.

1:27:04PFT Commenter:Hopefully I get a response. I'm going to ask him, are you going? What should I say? Are you going to game five?

1:27:15Big Cat:Dude, can't wait to see what you do with this press.

1:27:17PFT Commenter:I'd love to see another press. Are you saying that to Pickensburg or Icy Ver? Icy Vert.

1:27:21Big Cat:Oh, no. I don't know that Icy Vert wants to do the press.

1:27:25PFT Commenter:Yeah, I'm saying, are you going to game five?

1:27:26Big Cat:Are you ready for the press?

1:27:29PFT Commenter:Are you prepared for the press? Head on a swivel for a repress. Call him big player. Repress, big player. Repress?

1:27:38Big Cat:No, that's... Is that repression? You're going to get press round two. For a press round two, big player. You got to get ready for the press break. Continuous press. Round two. I feel like we got to talk Icy Lib into attending. I think Pickensburg.

1:27:54PFT Commenter:Now you got to talk Pickensburg. You got to DM him. Okay. And just be like, bro, I'm hearing reports that Icy Vert might be there. Okay, I'll be like. And he's calling himself Big Player. Okay. What's up, Big Player? Just saw this. Oh, God. These guys are going to end up meeting up and being like, fuck those losers on Pardon My Take. We're giving them a common enemy. My bad. I missed this message. no, be like, my bad, I missed this message. I honestly think I can't make a decision until I see round two.

1:28:29Big Cat:It was just so good. Like both sides handled themselves so well. Oh, I see first typing. Okay, here we go.

1:28:34PFT Commenter:Okay.

1:28:36Big Cat:Who won the press? Be honest. My bad.

1:28:41PFT Commenter:We're losers. I don't care about being this big of losers. We're actually losing the press off now. because we spent so much time talking about it. No, we're winning the press off because we're the one who are just benefiting from the press. Right, but also spending this much of our days. I think we should spend more of our days. Thinking about the press off makes you a loser of the press off. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1:29:02Big Cat:Okay, my bad. I thought you did a great job, big player.

1:29:07PFT Commenter:Oh, he said he's not going to be there. Oh, then he lost. Then he lost. He lost the press. Oh, no. He lost the press. Tell him he lost. If you don't show You lose the press off Yeah 100 % I'd be willing to purchase tickets for you

1:29:30PFT Commenter:Just so you don't lose Okay Okay I said People are saying if you don't show you lose the press off I'd be willing to purchase tickets for you just so you don't lose on a technicality. We can't have him lose on a technicality. We can't have – we can't. Flyers will probably lose a series. We can't. That's a good point.

1:29:59PFT Commenter:Also, actually, you know what, though? Pickensburg should actually have to go to Philly for the press. That's a fair point. Yeah, now that I'm thinking about it, if you want to double press the man, you've got to go to his home. Yeah, that's a good point. He might not survive that press.

1:30:15Big Cat:The series doesn't start until a home team loses a press. But he did lose a press at home. He lost a press at home. No, no, no.

1:30:24PFT Commenter:We don't know if he lost. Oh, that's true. Yeah, it's 50-50. Go listen to the fucking shit.

1:30:28Big Cat:If Higginsburg wants to win this press series, he's got to do it on the road. He's got to steal home ice. Yeah. We got to get a conclusion. I feel like you're not being objective when it comes to this, Max. I'm super objective. No, I don't think you are. Yes, I am. As a Philly guy. I said right off the bat. Why are you making the kids trans, bro? You're really going to talk about politics on a sports podcast? You're really going to talk about politics? There you go. Yeah.

1:30:57PFT Commenter:All right. No one knows who won that. It's impossible to say. All right. I left it with Icy Verde. I said I'd buy him a ticket. And then I said, we'll also try to get Pickensburg to show face in Philly for press round two. I need it. I'm like Rick Pitino. I'm addicted to the press. I am. I need it. I fucking need it.

1:31:14Big Cat:He says, let's go. Hand on the shoulder was the dagger.

1:31:19PFT Commenter:Dude, that's all he keeps going back to. He's like, if you're a man, you never let another man put his hand on your shoulder. Yeah. The dagger? Yeah. Wait, so it actually was over before they even said anything? Big time is what I'm saying. All caps. So Pickensburg thinks, so he doesn't even need to repress in his mind. He won with the hand. He could just show up to Philly, put his hand on Icy Ver's shoulder, and that would be it. You touch another man's shoulder, you win. Yeah. That's how this game works. They're just going to go, what if Pickensburg just shows up to Philly and they just play a game of tag throughout the entire arena?

1:31:54This is way too long of a segment we're doing on the press.

1:31:57PFT Commenter:All right. Let's get to our interview with Ryan Whitney. I need to press round two.

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1:33:15PFT Commenter:okay we now welcome on a very very very very very special guest it is our good friend ryan whitney here to talk some hockey uh by the way whit thank you for uh your chapter in the book you're welcome that was a that was a an honor to be a part of that book i can't wait to read it now i gotta apologize i will not be looking at you guys um you haven't told the world listening yet that there's seven minutes and 43 seconds left in the oilers anaheim games you guys wanted some live reactions from me so i won't be looking at you this is in the second period in hockey

1:33:46Big Cat:they've got three of them so it's not like that doesn't mean half uh every minute matters okay every minute matters because if you can go up 3-1 with seven minutes left in the second period that that that sets you up pretty nicely for the third but so so wit did write a chapter he's he's

1:34:01PFT Commenter:the number one uh in terms of appearances guess in part of my take history that's pretty big time It is. Insane. I'm not trying to be that guy. But the books out, you guys are monsters. You've been monsters forever. And now looking back, it's like, holy shit. I'm number one most appearance on this show. You should get some royalties. You can't tell the history of the story of Pardon My Take without Ryan Whitney. I don't know if that's necessarily true. What do you mean? But I'll take that. I'll take that. I didn't even think that was a troll either. But I'm not allowing you to say that. I'm just a small cog in the wheel.

1:34:35If you write this chapter, you wrote a chapter in the book.

1:34:38Big Cat:It's a really nice chapter. If it does become a New York Times bestseller, you are, in fact, a New York Times bestselling author. Yes. Yeah. And that would lead to some royalties. Right. From more of you guys.

1:34:47PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. By the way, because we didn't mention the regular show, we should have done that. We are also taking five AWLs who submit what Pardon My Take means to them. To Max's bachelor party? No. That would be funny. Do you want to come? You are invited. I do not want to come. I love Max. Okay. But you're invited. Five people, all they have to do is pre-order the book, and then we're going to post. We've posted the submission, but we'll repost it. Submit what it means to you, and we're going to pick five people and put them in the book. So five AWLs are going to be in the book. Oh, they're going to get chapters?

1:35:18Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Okay, I thought you were going to say they were going to get to play golf with Hank.

1:35:21PFT Commenter:No, they can do that as well. I'm sure Hank will add that on. They'll be asking some random AWL for a lesson on the second tee. Yeah. So why aren't you coming to Max Special Party? Vegas isn't really in my game anymore, man. We were there for the draft after the Panthers' first cup, and I remember leaving. I think Biz and I were sitting in the airport. I was like, I don't think I'll ever come back here. No offense to you guys. I'm sure you'll have fun. Well, you wouldn't go to Barstool Spring Break? No, I probably wouldn't take part of Barstool Spring Break. Not really my scene. I loved Vegas back in the day, but at this point, it's just kind of like I'm looking for a bar stool, no pun intended, and a game on TV.

1:36:03and thinking of you guys at the club Friday night, that's...

1:36:06Big Cat:Well, I won't be there. Yeah, I'm not going to go to the club. We were offered to go to the club. We're, we're, we're... I'm with you. Yeah. Like bottle service in the loud music. No, we won't be at that portion. That's for the young guys. I went in... When Vegas won the cup, we went to a club after that the cup was going to, eight minutes. Yeah. And I was like, all right, I can't believe I did this for like 13 years every Saturday night.

1:36:28PFT Commenter:We should try to convince Dave to do like a barstool spring break, but it's just all the old guys, and we just golf, we watch some games, and we go to bed at 9 p.m. We talk about heartburn. Yeah, and we go to bed at 9 p.m. Tate's tweeting like, oh, breaking news, Big Cat has gone to the bathroom again to take a shit. Big Cat missed himself. Breaking news, Ryan Whitney is starting to doze off on the recliner. It's only 8.30 p.m. Yeah, the late game hasn't even started yet. Dude, these Oilers games. So let's talk some hockey. It's crack. it's so it's so late i've watched two out of the three of them the other one i woke up and i whatever game it was like seven to five that was game three yeah it was just like what the fuck like it's it's heroin hockey i i don't it's i'll say this like it's the most entertaining team in the league by a mile because every single game something ridiculous happens and usually more than one thing one ridiculous things happen there's lead changes back and forth now the elephant in the room the real problem is mcdavid's hurt and it just sucks how bad he's not so it's weird keith keith yans was saying like it's like he lost his superpower so he skates like no one i've ever seen before and he's faster with the puck than without i mean i've been on this show how many times i've been on number one most appeared guest but i've probably talked about him for most of them yeah and his skating and with the puck and what he's able to do this cut back stops and starts it i've never seen anything like it and now he doesn't have that he still has the straightaway speed i've noticed like tonight in the last game but the little cutbacks where he's beating d out of the corner and just embarrassing people it's like ninja mode he doesn't have it and it just sucks as an oilers fan but hey we're up to one three minutes 30 seconds up we're on three on two it just is a bummer knowing that i don't know if they can go long if he's yeah yeah it's like now if they keep going maybe it gets better and better but at this

1:38:30Big Cat:point how how do injuries improve in this matter right do you know what the injury is it no uh playing doctor um it looked like like a sprained ankle like it just uh at home fell on him and it's like ankle kind of bent in and it looked innocent it was just totally fluky and then he was he was wounded like he came back into that game threw a pizza they scored they ended up winning that game it was just oh that's a penalty there we go awesome fucking a what uh because joel and beat he's playing in the nba playoffs oh he's a warrior yeah i saw that patch he had on his on his uh abdomen before the game i was like wow give him a medal what uh i've i've told you guys and i think the last time i was on i mentioned that i think my first appearance was the ripping on the nba thing yes and you ever watch stuff that you did and said when you're younger and you're like oh it's kind of like painful yeah yeah that was me i do that oh like i'll look at a week from a week ago and be like what the fuck you loser so i am like oh it's kind of painful i believe all that but it's just like wow i was kind of ridiculous and and being kind of a hard o but i texted you today yeah the product's never been worse the nba and i don't watch it so you can say how do you know the product it's it's terrible and if you're not somebody i've asked you guys and And I think in the book, my chapter, I mentioned you could be, as the number one podcast host, the people who change the game and lead off your show with hockey when football season's not going.

1:39:53But no, you guys stick to basketball, and it's horrible. Wait, but we talk a lot of hockey. No, you don't. Compared to other... When I'm on, so the 47 times I've been on, yeah, you guys talk hockey.

1:40:03PFT Commenter:There are other sports podcasts, though, that are like all sports podcasts do not talk hockey. True. There's hockey podcasts, and then there's sports podcasts. But if you guys became the biggest sports podcast that also led with hockey in the winter after football season, I just think it would help hockey a lot. That's all I'm saying. So it's on you guys. Are you a little nervous, though, with what you just said? And then it just becomes us talking about Conrad David not being able to win the big one for five months. I'm trying to think if I'm willing to deal with that, if then some of your listeners would traffic over to Chicklets.

1:40:38To get some real hockey talk. They want to hear some real hockey talk. Can they stop talking shit about this? When I say real hockey talk, I've got, I think, five or six things completely wrong, and we're not even halfway through the first round. Right.

1:40:49PFT Commenter:Dude, getting things wrong is better. That's the thing. It's like - They don't boo nobody, guys. Yeah.

1:40:53Big Cat:I don't know that you would - You say that you want us to lead off with hockey, but the amount of stuff that we would fuck up if we actually led off with hockey. Yeah, but then it's, all right, let's go over, download Chiclets, or go on Netflix, check out Chiclets, and we'll get what really happened. But we fuck up the sports we do know. I know, and I can't. I got one sport, and I fuck it up. Why don't you guys start doing some NFL? We'll do a quick NFL recap Monday sometimes after an awesome 4.30 Sunday game. Yeah. But I do love hearing Biz during those. Hearing him find out players for the first time.

1:41:28Big Cat:And rules and stuff. Oh, yeah, and positions. Yeah.

1:41:31PFT Commenter:I am, though, at a point where I used to care a lot more about my fuck-ups. now I'm just like we fuck up things every fucking show where it just becomes a joke I kind of love being wrong sometimes because you're like oh man it just shows that man in the arena guys you know you're in there giving takes left and right you ain't getting all of them right you ain't even getting half of them right most of the time you're still giving them 30 % gets you in the hall of fame

1:41:58Big Cat:last week I said I think about like 350 which would be awesome in baseball did they get 350? I think so yeah I was going to give you 450 Maybe like, yeah, maybe on base. Dan's like 275, but I feel like he's really throwing shit to the wind. No, I'll get on base. I'll have a take that's wrong, but then like Big Cat will clean it up and like slightly improve it. And there's like a kernel truth. I'm like, yeah, I'll take that as like a walk. I just, yeah, I'll take first base. Yeah, we polish the takes. Well, so you'll like this one. Talking about the Carolina Hurricanes-Ottawa Senators first round series, I picked Ottawa to win in seven.

1:42:33They got swept. They never had a lead for one second. And not only that, I was talking about Carolina's centers. I was like, oh, man, look at their third-line center. Colton and Yemi guys sucks. I forgot it was actually Jordan Stahl who I played with in Pittsburgh, and he's played about 16 years. So that was one where it's like, man, I think you are semi-losing your mind.

1:42:57PFT Commenter:Yeah, getting a little seat out. All right, I want to start there because I have some questions about the first round. Are we just the Hurricanes? I said this the other day. You can tell me, grade this take. What a saying. The Hurricanes sweep. But every year I was like, the Hurricanes just get to the Eastern Conference Final. Then they'll play a real team. Then they're going to lose. Yeah. Okay. Is that a fair take? Oh, yeah. Okay. And I've had that take. Now the Panthers aren't in this year. And the Panthers just smashed them. They would just dummy them and like bully them. And now they're not there.

1:43:29And there's no team like the Panthers in the East where they're just nasty. And, you know, I think Carolina, actually, if there's any year that they could get to the cup final, it would be this year.

1:43:39PFT Commenter:Well, that would be perfect because that's the year I made the take. Exactly. Right. Right. So you might have got them into the cup final. Yeah, they're going. They're going. I might bet them. I know. Now, yeah, they have like two different goalies, but Anderson's been their guy. But like this Brandon Bussey was their guy all year. No, you're ahead of me. I'm ahead of you. This is so fucking brutal. Oh, no. This is so brutal. God, I was ahead of you. You set this up? No.

1:44:06Big Cat:It's a tie game.

1:44:06PFT Commenter:I was singing simple water, and I made a goal horn with water in my mouth. We did not set this up. I swear to God. I forgot that that TV is always - I didn't even know that we were ahead. Turn off this TV. I was looking at Whitney. Turn off this TV. Why hadn't you said you were ahead prior to the goal? Because I didn't notice. I wasn't looking at that TV. I was looking at this TV. It's about seven seconds ahead. Six seconds ahead. Turn this TV off. What are you doing? Are you tweeting something? Tell us what you're live tweeting. I'm recording part of my take with these two dummies right now, and I'm about to walk out if they score another goal, and they're ahead of me.

1:44:46It's not our fault. It is your fault. The TV we're watching is ahead. Sorry. It's now 2-2. This is a disaster.

1:44:52PFT Commenter:It's Max's fault. Did you like the goal horn, though? That was good. No, it was like a... Well, because it was actually more like, oh, shit, but I had a mouthful of water. This sucks. That sucked. It was 2-0. I bet the Oilers tonight.

1:45:07Big Cat:Is 3-1 a death sentence? How bad is that? Why don't you guys... I don't call 3-1 a death sentence. McDavid being injured, it's close to the firing squad they might bring back, I read. Yeah. But it's not a death sentence yet.

1:45:18PFT Commenter:Why don't... This is not a troll question. Not a troll question. Why don't the Oilers ever have a goalie? It's crazy. I think to the non-big hockey fans, you know, the playoff fans. Yeah, us. You can just say us. Yeah, you guys. And guys like you, they're sitting around, they'll throw in the playoffs. They're probably like, I don't get why do they always have bad goals? They always do. It's crazy. And Wallstadt, this awesome goal in Minnesota, they had like the 20th overall pick a few years ago and traded it. And then the Wild took them. it's just like I don't know and then they traded Skinner who I mean they lost the last two with him but he gets him to the finals for Jari he's looked good tonight now it's 2-2 I don't know I don't know there's been a lot of fuck ups in Edmonton in the roster and it's just depressing and so is it defense too their team's pretty good their team's they have Evan Bouchard who gets kinda he's unreal but he makes like really bad turnovers once in a while So people are like, this guy's a goon.

1:46:25He can't make plays when it counts, but he has the second best points per game in the playoffs in the history of hockey for a defenseman. So I don't know, man.

1:46:34Big Cat:When McDavid signed the extension, it did appear like there was an out if it didn't work out. But why didn't that light a fire under Edmonton to do some of these things that you want him to do? I think that was the point of just the two-year extension. Like, all right, let's see what you can do here. and they got Tristan Jari and they traded Kulak and Skinner. Kulak's a good stay-at-home defenseman. I don't know, man. It's crazy. And there's so many goalies out there, it seems like. And goalie's a weird position. You get a guy who's unreal one year and the next year he struggles, but the Oilers.

1:47:10I don't want to blame this on the goaltending, though. Ingram gave up six goals the other night, but he wasn't even that bad. I know that sounds crazy. That does sound crazy.

1:47:19PFT Commenter:That sounds very crazy. Their defense is brutal. They turn the puck over. This is – I can't believe you were ahead of me. I'm sorry. We're now using it on purpose.

1:47:30Big Cat:I want to ask you about the Bs, about the Bruins, Hank's Bruins. Oh, man. What happened today? It feels like – what happened with Swayman? It looked like he screamed at his bench. I don't know if that was directed towards his teammates or his coach. No, that was at the team. Bad vibes. Yeah. Actually, the coach asked, Sturm was asked about it after, and he said at least we had one guy show some fire today. Ooh, that's never good. That's not good. Now, Swayman's been the best player for them in the series. They're down 3-1. All year, I think I picked Boston to be a possible lottery team before the year, so that's another good take.

1:48:07And then all year, I was like, how are they good? I don't really get it. Pasternak's incredible. He takes a lot of heat for the playoffs and his performance in the playoffs. But they just kept kind of proving people wrong. But now I'm like, all right, they're playing Buffalo, who's high-flying, fast-paced, and they can't hang with him. Swayman, he gets pulled or whatever, and he's basically screaming at the team. I was reading it was the worst game the Bruins have ever played at home in the playoffs. Now, I don't know if that's accurate, considering they've been around 100 years. But it was pathetic.

1:48:42no shows from everyone and and i don't think guys are upset that swayman who's been awesome is like what the fuck wake up whatever he yelled to them yeah who who so the sabers have

1:48:53PFT Commenter:are you like i was actually gonna ask like who has shocked you so far through the first three four games of the playoffs are the sabers up there the sabers are up there but i knew they they've been so good for since this mid-december so it wasn't like that surprising i thought maybe first playoffs in so long for a lot of these guys that they might struggle but they look good anaheim's awesome yeah anaheim's set up like to be really good for like eight for a long time and also quinville's an awesome coach they got quinville this summer then they got some stud like young guys that are just nasty they got great young defensemen there i i thought the oilers would would make easy work of them uh i don't know why i i thought that i just thought McDavid and Leon would just take over, but it hasn't happened.

1:49:44Colorado, they're no surprise. They swept. They're nasty. They're the favorites for a good reason.

1:49:50PFT Commenter:Other than that, Flyers. Flyers, for sure. Yeah, what's going on in that series? Because I went into that series being like, it's going to be a war, but probably the Penguins are going to win. I picked the Penguins. Same thing with the Bruins. Like, oh, maybe a lottery team. They're brutal. Everyone's like, Crosby's going to get traded. He doesn't want to be around for this. Another fantastic regular season thought they'd lead into that. The Flyers just, they got, have you heard of this Porter Martone? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's great. I heard a lot about him. For the Philly accent, it's perfect. Yeah.

1:50:25Martone. He's the only guy Max talks about. Yeah, Max. He's fired up. Max is fired up. I could tell. I could tell. I mean, he was watching the 76ers when I walked in this office. Well, the Flyers aren't playing tonight.

1:50:36PFT Commenter:What do you want me to do? But you were just down in the dumps. They were down by 30. All you have is the Flyers down back. He's flired up. He's flired up. So we went to a Penn State-Michigan State game. They played outdoors. And Porter Martone played all year at Michigan State. He was unreal. Like, definitely good enough where you're like, oh, this kid's leaving after his freshman year. He's going to be in the NHL. At the time, Flyers, way out of the playoffs. And he'd be one of those guys who comes in, gets games, and then the next year plays his rookie year. They started playing better. Then he came and he changed the entire team.

1:51:09He looks unreal. I think he's at a point per game. He's dominant. He's huge. High pick. They've needed like a young stud. They thought it was going to be Michkov. He's now scratched for the game tonight, which is game five. He's just like not ready yet. He's not there yet. But Rick Talkett, he went to Vancouver, took over a bad team there. They went to game seven, second round against Edmonton a few years ago. He's a great coach. And Flyers fans were all over him. The team wasn't doing well. Michkov, he wasn't playing. him enough flyers fans have this weird thing with michkov if you say a bad word about him they they snap they've just been banking on this guy being a superstar max do you want to snap on me yeah it's bullshit michkov not fat not what's his first name matt fay okay yeah there we go wow over it fly it up but everyone's so fat uh he was a little fat either way they're playing just scumbag philadelphia hockey now i've been calling i've been calling the city of philadelphia They're scumbags.

1:52:07It's dirtbags. But I respect it. You know? And Biz brought it into TNT. I think he caught some heat for that. Like, it's a little different saying on Chicklets than TNT calling the entire city scumbags. Now, he went on the next TNT night, and he's like, this is a compliment. This is playoff hockey. You want to be a scumbag. But they're all scumbags. And the fans are scumbags. And I believe yesterday for game four, the shirt said, fuck everybody. Fuck everybody. With the flies. You know, fuck everybody. Scumbag City. They're hard to play against. They got a great story there. And I don't like Philly.

1:52:45I don't like the Flyers. But seeing them back in the playoffs with that orange crowd, it is a great. I got to play them in the playoffs once with Pittsburgh. It's an amazing atmosphere.

1:52:55Big Cat:Nice, guys. What's the toughest place to play? Montreal's tough. So back in the day, San Jose was hard to play in. That crowd was sick. They'd come out to a Metallica song. It was unreal. I can't think of the name of it. Because I feel like they get a lot of shit for not being a traditional hockey town. But if you're in San Jose and you're a Sharks fan, you really give a fuck about it. They have a solid group of people that don't care about anything but the Sharks. They had a, I want to say, 15-year, 12 - to 15-year run of President's trophies and never could get over the hump. And it was the best crowd in hockey.

1:53:32PFT Commenter:Pavelski and Joe Thornton. Joe Thornton, Marlowe. Ryan Clough, they had all these guys. And now Celebrini's kind of bringing them back. I bet they're in the playoffs next year. And you could tell last year when I said that if they were playing in my backyard rink, I would have shut the shades and not watched. This year I was watching every game. And nobody was at the games last year. And then this year it was packed. So that city's coming back. Montreal's a great atmosphere. Tough place to play. Philly was tough. Philly was tough. Yeah, they're scumbags. They'll spit on you and stuff like that.

1:54:02Real dirtbags like Max. In the playoffs, everywhere is hard to play, though.

1:54:07PFT Commenter:Yeah. You know, like, it's always great atmospheres in every building. That Lightning-Canadians series that tied 2-2 after tonight, that's been a war. That's been kind of exactly what I thought it would be. Right. They're killing each other. So this Brandon Hagel, you heard of him? Yeah. So he was drafted by Buffalo. They didn't sign him. He went to Montreal, like, rookie camp. They were like, no, we're all set. ends up with Chicago. They trade him. I don't know what they were thinking. They did get a big return. But since he's got to Tampa, he has a 90-point season. He was on Team Canada. He had the fight with Matthew Kachuk in the Four Nations faceoff.

1:54:48They won that. He has six goals through four games in this. He's thrown some enormous hits. He fought Slavkovsky, knocked him out. He's become just, he's like a Matthew Kachuk, Brad Marchand type player. He's unreal. So that series has been a war. It was actually overtime the first three games. Then tonight, 3-2. Yeah, it's basically overtime.

1:55:08PFT Commenter:Yeah, the Lightning score with like five minutes left. Yeah, Kucherov is sick. That's a great series. I think the Canadians are like the Ducks where they're set up for the next while here with a lot of young studs. And that's another city, man. They're in the playoffs. That rink. You guys would love to go to a playoff.

1:55:26Big Cat:PFT did. Yeah, I did last year. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, where the entire penalty box filled up with dudes and Tom Wilson was trying to fight his way out of the box. Was that when Wilson killed Carrier, that game? No, no, that was the next game. Okay. Where he turned the series around on that one hit in the open ice. How sick is that place, though? It's actually incredible. I don't want to say I was scared because I wasn't afraid, but it's the most intimidating, loud building to be in. If you're an opposing fan, you feel like you should not be there. You had your translator with you, too. It's a compliment.

1:55:57Big Cat:Yeah, Oldie was there. and oldie was actually i'm so glad oldie's the best person to be with in a situation like that because he was rocking like all the caps gear too and people would like come up to him and they'd be angry and then oldie would talk to him for about i don't know two seconds and now they're like hugging chugging beers together oh they're like visiting oldie in the summer yeah yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah so it's he's a great guy to diffuse any situation but that building is fucking insane yeah it is absolutely it's just the stands yeah i think i've said this on this show i don't know how they got away with like the building code up in montreal there i don't know if there was one but it is just straight down um now another crowd and this this matters for me buffalo not being in for so long i mean we saw the road we saw the rollerblade gang are you gonna join him unbelievable uh tuesday morning i'm flying to buffalo are you let's go and i'm i'm going to game five are you gonna are you gonna blade up so our memes i texted him or tweeted him i said you You got to bring me rollerblades and hockey gear.

1:56:57I want to get with those guys. I got to see my billboards in person. Yep. My 0.000 % chance billboards of making playoffs. And I think that I've had a couple tweets like, ah, don't show your face. But overall, I think the crowd is. They know I've just eaten it and that I led into that clip saying, I hope the Sabres get in and that fans don't deserve this. So I'm fired up to see a game.

1:57:20PFT Commenter:Also, they're up 3-1. Like if they were down 3-1, I'd be like, maybe don't go. But they're up 3-1. Now, here's the thing. It's me and Merle's. So I don't know if they're going to be able to win with us in the building. No. We will eat it. No, you guys are such mushes. But Merle's is a huge Sabres fan, so he'll be rattled. So both of you are going to blade up. I want to see you. I told him. I think he's obviously driving. He's in Troy. So you got to bring your blades, and I have to get memes to bring me blades. All right. So obviously do whatever you want. But I think the funniest thing to do would for you and Merle's to not tweet any of the videos and let them just come out naturally.

1:57:57PFT Commenter:And people will be like, the fuck? Is that wit in there? I think memes is coming. You know, you do the video. But I'm saying the actual first clip that goes out of the Blade gang needs to just have you in it and just be like, wait a second. Is Whitney in the Blade gang now? Yeah, I guess giving it away on this because a lot of people listening to show that might have been a mistake. No, people will look for it. But I already tweeted. I mean, I tweeted out my ticket, and I didn't crop it to take my seat in my row. No, because I did that on purpose. It's like belly of the beast. I want people to know where I am in that building.

1:58:32PFT Commenter:Well, also, the Sabres are probably going to fucking hit you up and be like, hey, get on the Zamboni. Well, they gave me the tickets. Yeah, get on the Zamboni, come up to the suite. I'd love to ride the Zamboni.

1:58:42Big Cat:Yeah. Section 117, row 22, seat 13. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. You didn't have to say that. I don't know how many people see my Twitter as opposed to listening to it now. You can describe a tweet, but I think our audience wants to hear it. It's an audio podcast. Say it again, BFB. Just in case someone's listening at 2X Speed. What was it? Okay, if you're listening at 2X Speed, I'll slow down. Section 117, row 22, seat 13, ticket type adult. Enter aisle 19. I know where to enter. If they close it out, though, look. Like, Merle says that if they win tonight, you know, see how I did that professional podcast?

1:59:20Yeah, that was smart. That, like, the city will act like they won the cup. Like, that's how legitimate these people are about the city. Oh, yeah.

1:59:31PFT Commenter:They need something. They need some good news. Have you pissed at my trough yet? No, where is that? It's over there. Yeah, I got to piss in the trough. Yeah, yeah. I have a urinal in my basement. You do? Yeah, that was one of the things we did in the basement. How did you never tell me that? Do you put ice in it? No, it's not that big. That's a good move, though. Yeah. Ice in the trough is the best. The urinal is just, you just feel like a man. Yeah.

1:59:52Big Cat:Hell yeah. Ryan Whitney is being brought to you by Jose Cuervo. When Cuervo enters, every moment just gets better. You find yourself in the center of the dance floor. You can't help but stand up and high-five those around you at the game. The room reacts like it just got the same text at the same time, and you stop checking the time. Suddenly, small talk escalates to laughing so hard you can barely catch your breath. That's the Cuervo effect, a signal everybody understands a moment that anyone can join, and a good time that just grows. And all you have to do is keep it Cuervo. And now back to more Ryan Whitney.

2:00:22PFT Commenter:Speaking of Zambonis, I actually have – I'm riding the Zameth next year. Are you? Yeah. So Jordan Schmaltz and I made a bet on the North Dakota-Wisconsin semifinal game because he went to North Dakota, and I was like, you got to get me on the Zameth because his brother plays, obviously, for the Mammoth. and so I won because the Badgers beat him. So he's like, yeah, get you on there. I get a plus one too. That's baseball. That's baseball. Shout out Dana Beers. No, but that could be like, hey, I'll get you on. I'll have my brother get you on. And then he tells his brother, his brother's like, I ain't getting me on.

2:00:58PFT Commenter:No, he's got to get me on. I mean, his reputation is online. I'm taking that's porn if he doesn't get me on. I know Schmalti a little bit. I would almost guarantee you're on that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the original bet was I wanted the Zameth. He couldn't deliver that. Like, I wanted to own it. I feel like you could get your own Zameth built. We should get a mini Zamboni here, just sweep the court. Mincy riding that thing around. I would never allow him. Put a desk. I would never allow him. Have it be a desk that travels around where Mincy, that's his workstation. By the way, why are you so negative about Mincy?

2:01:31God, everyone. You've got so much hate in your heart. You're taking everything so serious.

2:01:36PFT Commenter:He's a piece of shit. Yeah, bad guy. Really bad guy. Terrible guy. Worst guy we got. Oh, my God. I just love that he picked you out and being like, that Ryan Whitney. Yeah, so much hate in my heart. He's so hateful all the time. He's carrying four bags. Yeah. Pick up a bag, buddy.

2:01:53Big Cat:He sees you being grumpy, and he's like, he's a bad guy. Yeah. Good guys can be grumpy. I don't think people get, like, the grumpiness, yeah, I guess I come off as grumpy. I don't see you as a grumpy guy. But grumpy, to me, doesn't mean bad guy at all. Grumpy doesn't mean, like, to me, not negative connotations. It's like, yeah, some of my best friends are grumpy all the time. Yeah, but I'm not even like grumpy. I've never thought you were grumpy.

2:02:16PFT Commenter:I've known you for a long time now. I've never been like. I seriously think it's like the sense of humor around Boston with people. I don't know. Everyone's kind of like, you're just a love life, boys.

2:02:25Big Cat:Yeah, you're Ray of Sunshine. Yeah, thank you. Tell me something. What's the best thing that's happened to you this week? I think you're teeing me up with something right now.

2:02:36PFT Commenter:No. Is your son still playing in a hockey tournament? We're just trying to prove that you're not a grump. Oh, oh, oh. We're going. Okay. I thought you were going somewhere else. Yeah, yeah, no. Let's just be happy. Hey, just waking up this morning.

2:02:48Big Cat:There you go. Every day. Every day. Every day you wake up above ground. That's a good day. Hey, you wake up. Breath in your lungs. Beautiful family.

2:02:56PFT Commenter:Yeah. Buddy, I'm living life. I'm loving life. Shout out Mincy right now. Thank you for making me appreciate my life and getting out of the doom and gloom that I live in.

2:03:05Big Cat:So I think you've got to go to a panic show with him. I think that is the solution to this. Burn the place down.

2:03:10PFT Commenter:I got a question about, are you coaching your son? I coach my middle guy, Wyatt. He'll start next year and then Ryder be a first year squirt next year. I coach them and then I'll help coach Wyatt. I'm assistant coach though because I travel a lot. I can't be the head coach. But I got a question about that. So, like, my kids play sports, but, you know, I'm like, hey, listen, as long as you learn how to, like, throw a ball and not look like a doofus, that's the height of what I'm looking for. We're not going pro in anything. Like, we're a podcasting family. That's what we do. Yeah, exactly. Is there a part of you, though, that, like, is watching him like, this is what I was when I was his age?

2:03:47Or, like, you can't do that. No, no, no, no.

2:03:49PFT Commenter:Because there are parents who probably do that. But listen, so this is funny because we talk about this a lot. Like there's completely psychotic sports parents, right? I'm not there. But if you're like doing it a lot, like you're a little crazy. Yeah. Like with hockey is now I keep hearing baseball down south and every sport is a little ridiculous. There's club sports. It's all so broken. We could talk for hours. But I'm like putting in a lot of time with the kids and I love it. but i'm also like bud you gotta just try hard and be a good teammate like and if i see you not trying hard like i'm gonna be upset right like it it i'm not trying to be like it's not wins and losses it's like no and and it's and and there's time now rider he's eight he turns nine in november it's like he comes to the bench sometimes crying when he makes a mistake i'm like bud like you can't yeah and then like he does it like three games in a row and then i'm like getting mad at him on the bench and then after i'm like what am i doing but i need to teach him not to cry while he's playing hockey i mean it's it's a great experience it brings back a lot of memories but it's hard because i was so obsessed with hockey it was it was there was nothing else that mattered to me ever yeah like school ever in my life and my oldest guy isn't like that and it's like oh it's just i i think i'm starting to realize or i am starting to realize like i was not the norm right you know but it's got to be weird being like you know what you you hit the ceiling you went you played in the nhl that is his genes so like yeah like i said like when i'm watching my kids like hey listen you could you could try your absolute hardest we're not going pro you know what i mean like i i the genes thing is like i don't know yeah obviously you see a lot former professional athletes whose kids play you know pro sports but how many guys kids play that you don't it's yeah true true it's still so the odds are just so ridiculous i just am like learn how to be a good teammate right i know that from my friends i talked to a couple guys own their own businesses the kids they hire are all former athletes like not even necessarily like college athletes but it's just like being on a team and knowing what it takes to work together with people and like i don't know that's why i love sports yeah and no the teamwork that's why i say like i just tell being part of a team as a kid is very important people will shit on some people shit on sports be like you know it doesn't really matter if they play no being part of a team winning and losing learning how to deal with that shit learning to be there for your teammates yes those are life lessons does he have a good hockey birthday i my oldest two bad hockey birthdays Oh, no.

2:06:34PFT Commenter:Yeah. Because it wasn't that that Malcolm Gladwell thing where he did the whole calendar. And I have a great hockey birthday. February. So it's February because that's when. Yeah. So like people who don't know, like you play with your age group. So the funniest thing is hockey people. It's so bizarre. You're talking to other parents. You're like, do you have a 2016? Do you have a 2019? That's how you just talk about the kids. Right. Oh, you have a 2014. And it's just based on the fact that that's who you play with. So the January, February is of the year. Are all like the sickest players. And at eight, nine, ten years old, like a December is a year younger than a January, February.

2:07:11It matters a lot. So the hockey birthday thing is hilarious. So then our third is a May. So I'm like, okay. I'm like, May is a little closer to the first. That's in the first half. Oh, Oilers. Yeah, Connor McDavid, January 13th. But I love coaching because you just – to seek a kid improve and to see them like hockey or any sport more at the end of the year than they do at the beginning. Big time. It's the best feeling. It's like – because I just know how much I love the game. If this kid ends up loving the game and just always being a hockey fan for life after he's done playing high school, college, whatever, then it's like – it's just – it's cool.

2:07:48Big Cat:Did you have a coach that made you love the game or was it like you always just loved it? You were obsessed with it. I always loved it, but that was because of my dad. so my dad made me love it and he played in high school but he never and he just loved it and then i just i was obsessed i was i was obsessed i just remember like being so fired up on the bus ride home to go home and go put on my rollerblades and then be in my street for like two hours alone that's awesome yeah and then i'm like rider why don't you go shoot some pucks he's like i'm all set yeah yeah do you uh do you freeze a pond in your backyard i built a rink yeah so how what's the steps on that because i saw i saw a rink and i thought about getting a rink just it'd be funny to have a tiny so it's a sport rink here yeah it's a pickleball court in the summer and then you know you you soak it down with the water you flood it and then it freezes in the winter then the boards are up so that's actually the most fun thing the kids do and like their buddies come over you get a fireplace out there now we had about 15 feet of snow this winter so i'm out there shoveling shoveling now i had a lot of help with the shovel i'm not gonna lie guys but there For a couple days, somebody couldn't come over and shovel, and I was out there.

2:08:54So, yeah, I mean, it's pretty cool. My wife was disgusted. She's like, look at this. They got a rink in our backyard. It looks so stupid. It looks awesome. And I was like, no, it looks great. It's like a carnival. We got the pool. We got the rink. I got a little bocce ball, mini bocce ball court. It's like a straight up circus in my backyard. That's perfect.

2:09:13Big Cat:What if you had a kid that was like, I want to be a goalie, Dad? I say no. My middle guy has said it a bunch of times. You won't let him? No. Why? No. I don't want anything to do with that. I don't know. Most goalies are pretty weird dudes. Yeah. And I don't know anything about the position, which is probably a good thing because I wouldn't be able to tell them any nonsense. We've talked about my takes. No, no. How wrong I've been.

2:09:38PFT Commenter:That no is for the game. We're in the third period now. Anaheim's on a power play. Oh, no. Goaltending is just a weird, weird position. And watching the game as your kid's a goalie, that's got to be just. It's got to be terrible. Oh, terrible.

2:09:52Big Cat:So that's a hard no. Hard no. Okay, so it sounds like it. So my dad, sorry. But you're making your kids scared to come out to you as being a goalie. They might be going over to their friend's house and playing goalie because they're like, my dad will yell at me if I do it here. They've grown out of it already. Okay. They've grown out of it. But when you're younger, you pass the pads around. So every kid plays goal. So my dad made sure I played against the best team. I gave up like 17 and was like, I'm never doing that again. That was the play. The worst day of your life. Yeah, exactly.

2:10:18PFT Commenter:Smart. So through the first four games, what was your finals position? 2-on-1. Come on. Here we go. Come on. Dickinson has been money. Got to score. I mean, that wasn't great. No. That wasn't great. That was not great at all. They're going back the other way 2-on-1. By the way, we got the TV set, so we're not ahead anymore.

2:10:37Big Cat:Okay. Oh, my God. This is crazy, guys. I mean, this might be some of the worst podcasting of all time. We do this all the time. It's great. Clear it. All right. We can go back to our combo.

2:10:48PFT Commenter:Who's going to win the cup? It's tough to say Colorado's not going to win. Yeah, they look so good. They're so nasty. I think it'd be incredible, right? Obviously, I want the Oilers. I want the Wild to get by Dallas. I picked Dallas. That's been an unbelievable series. That's been incredible. Do you know the Wild have never held a 2-0 series leave in the history of their franchise? And they haven't got out of the first round in a long time. 11, 12 years maybe? Yeah. it's Minnesota sports Minnesota sports they're just straight up cursed but they got that win the other day I feel like that was that was the biggest game in the Minnesota Wilds franchise history I said because yes they've been to a conference final but this year like Quinn Hughes all in it's their time Caprizo makes 17 million a year starting next year it's like if they went down 3-1 again after winning game one after winning 6-1 yeah that it just would have been such a disaster but now we got a series So it's great.

2:11:47I like Quinn Hughes. I don't know if you guys have watched that. This guy. This guy is. I don't get it. I don't get how he does.

2:11:52PFT Commenter:Well, no, he's canceled. So we don't watch him. Quinn Hughes. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Yeah. He was canceled. He was with Cash. Yeah. He took a phone call in the locker room. Yeah, he took a phone call, laughed. So he's done. And Cash shot under beer in his face. It's over. It's over.

2:12:05Big Cat:Poor guy. Cash probably listens to your podcast. Have you thought about that? I was wondering that. He definitely does. I was wondering that. Yeah. I wonder if you ever got. away from all that i mean i don't yeah but what if you guys a little trouble with the law and

2:12:17PFT Commenter:you're like hey no i need to get out of jail free like all right could yeah you think you think he'd help us yeah yeah i don't know yeah so i just got off the phone with cash yeah doesn't he right now

2:12:27Big Cat:i just got the phone with the president you could say that the all time right there i was on the phone with president i've probably watched that 100 president it's awesome well also that's that's

2:12:37PFT Commenter:schmaltz's uh co-host gucci he's tweeted it about a thousand times and i've laughed every time Every fucking time he tweets it, I laugh. When the Heat Daddy writes, I'll call it the president. Just talking to the president. Ace here, I laugh every time. Yeah, I was just talking to the president. Oh, man. It's so fucking good. All right, here we go. Power play. Yes. Oh, you're ahead of us. That's what I'm talking about. You're ahead of us. That's what I'm talking about. That's Evan Bouchard. That was bullshit. What did I tell you about Evan Bouchard? You did. Yeah, put your head down, McTavish.

2:13:08Feel shame in the penalty box. Evan Bouchard got. This is a good podcasting voice. Over 90 points this year. Superstar. He's been called out for his play in the series. We got the lead. Oh, my God. That's our second power play goal of the game. Power play was called out early. Look at McDavid. Another point. Look at that shot, boys. This guy, he shoots at 103 miles an hour as one-timer. That's a snipe.

2:13:30PFT Commenter:Hey, what did you do with all your duck swag they sent you? Was it nice? Was it any old-school Mighty Ducks? No, it's all the new colors. I wish they'd go back to the green. I know. These colors suck. The orange sucks. It's like hunting, right?

2:13:42Big Cat:It's like hunting color when you go duck hunting. Exactly. To kill ducks. You're right, which I'm doing right now. Right. You should be wearing a word. I'm in the midst of killing ducks. Yep. The mask, though, is a big-time giveaway they did that one night. The duck mask. Yeah, that's a solid one. That I tweeted out. That's a great one.

2:13:58PFT Commenter:Why don't they go? The throwbacks would say. I don't know. Those are the best jerseys ever. These jerseys are horrible. Horrible. I think. Well, also, it's like we were talking about the Flyers. The Flyers are orange. You can't also be orange. I know. Oh, yeah. There we go. What's that? but grab that grab next to you no no don't do that grab the thing next to you why are you doing that I forgot we have a signed Mighty Ducks jersey if Anaheim scores I'm out of here I'm telling you for you putting that jacket on we have a signed so you're putting that jacket on we went over this we had the episode I'm out of this room if Anaheim scores did you see this we have a signed Emilio Estevez oh sick dude it's freezing that didn't sound like you thought it was sick I mean it's like it's not signed like I don't know he's fucking Gordon Bombay Yeah, I get it.

2:14:43It's just, I don't know. All right, you know what? Forget it. Fuck this jersey. I think that jersey would be better without the signature only because. Fuck that jersey.

2:14:48PFT Commenter:You don't want it. You don't want to see it. I like just the Bombay. Like, you don't need his actual name. He should have signed it Gordon Bombay, not Emilio Estevez. Also, people don't talk enough about. I agree with that. Like, a guy gets a DUI and they're like, hey, go coach kids. And then drive the limo on the ice. That's crazy. Oh, yeah. That's old school though. You don't get a DUI guy like that. Hey, that movie came out in like 93, I think. That was. It was everything. Yeah. Awesome. All right. Let's finish up. Rowback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. Promo code TAKE. 20 % off. First purchase.

2:15:17PFT Commenter:Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Rowback dot com. Promo code TAKE. Zach, I'm going to give you the rowback question. Oh, yes. He was not prepared.

2:15:25Big Cat:What's going on? How are you doing today, man? What's up, Zach? How you doing, buddy? Doing well. Quick question for you today. I was just curious. Where do you see this game going? Down to the wire. No, he was not prepared. He was not prepared. Good question. Zach, that's a great question. Thank you so much. I think we finished this thing off 4-2 with an empty netter. All right. Serious question. Where do you think the Canadians' lightning series goes towards the end of it? I think we go game seven overtime. And who takes that? I think that that would be in Tampa. I picked Tampa, so I got to stick with them, but I'm rooting for Montreal.

2:15:57Is that okay, Zach?

2:15:59Big Cat:Completely understandable. I know you're a Tampa guy. So you're rooting for them, but we both think Tampa will win. Is that what you're saying? Did I miss you? Yeah, I did. I picked Tampa before the series. Okay. I still think they'll win, but I'm not as confident as I was before the series. You get it? I do. Let's get confident. I like that. Let's get confident. How sick was that Reuben Bain draft thing when he grabbed the hat? It was pretty cool. At Tampa, right? Yeah. Very cool. I got a question. Wait. The draft lottery. Yes. That's coming up on Saturday, right? Rigged. It's rigged. Well, I just say that.

2:16:29I just. I'm going to say, if Vancouver or Calgary doesn't get first overall pick this year, it's rigged.

2:16:36Big Cat:Okay. If Chicago or the Rangers get it, there's going to be a problem. I mean, if the Rangers get it, that would be a big problem.

2:16:45PFT Commenter:Seven of a rebuild. Now, by the way, I'm an Oilers fan. They've had like seven of them in the past. It doesn't equal success right away. No, it doesn't equal Stanley Cups.

2:16:54Big Cat:But wait, so Vancouver, they have the highest odds. Chicago is number two. Oh, I thought Calgary was two. No, Calgary's four. So two of the guys that you said rigged, the Rangers. No, the Blackhawks sucked. Yeah, okay. All right. So Vancouver's never had the first overall pick. Yeah. And Calgary's never had a top three pick, I don't think. That's crazy. So I don't know. All right. So let's say if Vancouver doesn't get it rigged, or no, just straight numbers. Is there a stud? So Gavin McKenna.

2:17:23PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah. Just keep him out of bars. He's not as – Wait, did he get a bar fight? He knocked a guy out who was chirping his mom. Oh, okay. Then that's – It's a pretty legendary college story. Don't chirp a guy's mom. 17-year-old freshman. Yeah. Some loser's chirping your mom. That reminds me of Icy Burt Pickensburg.

2:17:39Big Cat:So that actually puts you to the top. Yeah, it was a press. It was a press. Well, he was getting pressed, but then he won the press. Yeah, yeah. His mom was getting pressed. Yeah. And he pressed the shit out of that other guy with the fist. Yeah. Okay. Now, McKenna was going to be – he was guaranteed first overall. I think he's still going to go first overall. but it's i think some people now who were saying like mcdavid type player that maybe they're thinking like it's gonna be very good but not mcdavid you know what i'm saying right kind of um well mcdavid's the best yeah he's the best boys he's the best yeah never seen a player like him in my life i don't know if i ever will again either do you ever think in sports how weird it is when you see somebody that's so much better than everyone else but then you know 20 years later there'll be somebody better than him yeah but maybe not with mcdavid but this might be as good as it gets yeah does that make you depressed it always that makes me sad because i love mcdavid so much that i don't think that anyone's going to be ever there always is in every sport but let me ask you a question not mcdavid is there a comp don't try to do that because i think i i know

2:18:44PFT Commenter:exactly what you're saying but there's also guys who like you're like i'm never going to see a guy exactly like this like in terms of his skill set and what he does you know i mean yeah i more think of like dominating the game i don't know though like i think they'll i think they'll probably be somebody that's like faster and better than there will be yeah there has to be yeah that's the craziest thing like i don't think we'll ever see someone exactly like steph curry again really yeah exactly like i just don't i just think well that's a product so that that league could be not even exist in 20 years.

2:19:22Big Cat:The thing with Steph Curry is we've had millions of people over the years just grow up shooting basketballs. No one's ever been able to shoot basketballs. Right, and whoever

2:19:29PFT Commenter:comes after him will just be like, oh, he's like Steph Curry. Steph Curry was the original in that.

2:19:35Big Cat:But also no one's going to be as good as Steph Curry.

2:19:38PFT Commenter:Where it's like you'll never see exactly that type of skill set. Yeah, no, I see what you're saying, but there will still be a player in every league in 20 years that you're just like, he's the best. I can't believe this guy's this good. Yeah. So I don't know. These are deep thoughts. I think McDavid is. Way to go, Zach. You got us on a deep side. As good as it's ever going to get.

2:19:57Big Cat:I think the NHL is in trouble after McDavid retires. McDavid's got years before here. He's just so special. I just love him. Years and years and cups.

2:20:05PFT Commenter:He's got another team he's going to go to. I got some heat for that one. I said maybe he'd be on Detroit someday. Then I had to go on the witness protection program. Oh, no. But, yeah, I don't know. I would love to see him win with the Oilers, man. I would too. The guy signed two-year extension,$12.5 million, which is basically him. He could have got$22 million if he wanted.

2:20:30Big Cat:What would be the worst teams for McDavid to go to and then win multiple Stanley Cups? The Panthers.

2:20:37PFT Commenter:Yeah. Panthers, yeah. If he joined a super team, oh, the fun we'd have with you on that. That would be the best. If he did that, we would never. You would have to quit. He would never. If he went to a super team and just rattled off some wins, we were just like, dude, sick league. I think if he went to... Oh, buddy. If NHL started forming super teams, I would no longer be the most appearances on part of my take because I'd never be on the show again.

2:21:04Big Cat:What would be worse? If he went to the Panthers, joined a super team, or if he went to the Kings and then just did the Gretzky path?

2:21:12PFT Commenter:But Gretzky won. How many cups did Gretzky win? Like, if he was ever on the Panthers with, like, the guy, like, their core and they won, this is just never going to happen. So we're kind of talking real crazy now. I mean, yeah. Let's get crazy. LA or Dallas or Tampa or something.

2:21:26Big Cat:If he went to Pittsburgh, would that be a super team? No. No. No, no, no, no, no. No. Crosby's, like, Crosby's turning 39 in August 7th. You know, 8-7? That's his birthday. Do you know that? I know that. Not a hockey birthday. Yeah. 8-7-87. Not a hockey player. That's probably what made him so good, though, because he had to play against bigger guys growing up. Yeah, he was a prodigy. That's what they call a prodigy. I think he was playing like two, three years up. Does that? So like, hey, you got an 87, and then Troy Cross is like, yeah, I got an 87, but he's playing with the 84s. I love that.

2:22:01Wait, do you still talk to Sid? The last time I talked to Sid, Kevin Hayes FaceTimed me, and he was eating pregame meal with Sid. And then Sid's like, do you still have restless leg syndrome? I'm like, yeah. he's like no shit

2:22:15PFT Commenter:that was good but does Sidney Crosby is he like hey Whit you were my guy you were my teammate and all you do is suck off McDavid and say he's better than me I actually have never said he's better than me so I've said he's the best hockey player I've ever seen oh no but I'm like Crosby is like the best ever does that make sense it sounds so weird it's good takemanship where you just don't want to pick the actual skills of the game But Crosby's like That's like a Brady Mahomes

2:22:46Big Cat:Yeah you can do like best and then greatest Best and greatest is a different conversation

2:22:50PFT Commenter:Or like people try to, you know, Aaron Rodgers People say Aaron Rodgers is the best football player Like quarterback they've ever seen But he hasn't won the most Tom Brady is the greatest Aaron Rodgers is the best There you go But I mean, you know, McDavid needs to get like one To be then

2:23:05Big Cat:To be in the conversation But then here's what And Rodgers got one I want to just prepare you for something with that not that we'd ever do such a thing, but if he's really, really fucking good and he just wins one, then later on we'll be like, he really isn't the best ever if he only won one. That's interesting coming from an Ovi guy. No, I'm not here making the claim that he's the best ever. You've never said Ovi's the best ever? I'd say he's the best goal scorer ever. Oh, okay. Well, he's only got one cup. Okay. I didn't say best goal scorer ever. I'm just saying. I mean, I don't think, yes, Crossby's got three, Gretzky's got four, or Messi's got six.

2:23:41If you get one, you got it. You got to have your name on the cup. You got to get the one. You got to get your name on the cup. For Joe Thornton and Jerome McGinley, Lundqvist, there's no way it doesn't eat it in him a little bit. It always will. It's like you got to get one.

2:23:55Big Cat:And for him, for McDavid, if he ever finished without one, I would feel really bad for him. I really shouldn't have brought up the one cup thing. That was a big misstep on my part. Yeah, I don't think you were thinking about our guy over. We were talking about him beforehand. I see that Aaron Rodgers. into that farm animal you walked right into that one um all right wait you're the best we'll uh

2:24:13PFT Commenter:we'll have you back on closer to uh cup final and uh thank you good luck guys anytime i appreciate it i can't wait to read the book who of um these goons had the best chapter uh zach because zach i i i can't stress this enough zach has the most misspelled words per word count he he wrote a paragraph for the end of the book a paragraph with and i counted like 17 words spelled in a paragraph so they should leave them misspelled oh yeah no no we told them okay no no it was like actually not not contentious but we told the the people were putting together the book we're like listen i know this goes against everything you think a book should be but you have to tell the copy editor to not touch yeah like hank's chapter zach's chapter like you can't do anything so it's You're getting as pure Zach as you want on the book.

2:25:04PFT Commenter:What did Hank say? Hank had good stuff.

2:25:08Big Cat:I think that memes, that's going to read more like a manifesto.

2:25:12PFT Commenter:They'll pull that up in a court talk. Is memes back there? Oh no, he's not back right now. Memes went to go take a shit 45 minutes ago. So I texted Dan the other night and I was like, man, is memes like a sociopath? He scares me a little bit. I love him. But his sports team's at everything, and he's just – I think he's going to kill Hank. Yeah. It's like not even joking, though. It's good, though. We need the edge. He's the edge. You need the edge. Yeah, you need the edge. He's just a grumpy – that's a grumpy guy. Like, if you're looking for a grumpy guy, that's – Yeah, but look at his teams.

2:25:47Big Cat:I know. Right. He kind of – you can see how he developed that. But there was a moment on Thursday where if the Jets had moved up and drafted Carson Beck in the first round – I saw some of those clips where he was like, I'm going to burn this – He meant it. He was 100 % serious.

2:26:01PFT Commenter:There's been multiple times I thought memes was going to swing on me. Really? Oh, yeah. He'll ball his fist up. And you'll just be like, dude, are you about to punch me? He's an amazing follow, that guy. He's great. What was I just going to ask you? I had one more thing. Oh, it's funny. When does your book come out? August. And when does Dave's come out? July. So more sales. That is going to be. I mean if you guys sell more books than he does that's a nice leg up to have on I mean he's probably got some more salacious stuff we do our book came together very well and we also got like you wrote a chapter JJ Watt, Blake Griffin all these guys who've met a lot Joe Buck, SVP, they all Russillo, so it's cool SVP did a chapter?

2:26:55I'm a big SVP fan He's the best. He's the absolute best. That guy, he just seems salt of the earth.

2:27:00PFT Commenter:Highest approval rating of anyone in media. Yeah. I think so. I know. Nobody doesn't like him. No. I'd say if you don't like him, you're just brain dead. Him and Barkley. Yeah.

2:27:09Big Cat:Probably one show. One A. Barkley, by the way, speaking of the NBA argument, him being on the halftime show and saying, thank God for hockey, this game is so bad. Yeah. That right there is enough for me. He's the best. All right, boys. Thank you. Anytime. Ryan Whitney was brought to you by Microsoft. Before we get to more chaos, we got to tell you about something that helps people focus on what's most important. Microsoft 365 Copilot. What if you can add an AI assistant to your work without leaving your workflow? Built into Microsoft Word, Excel, and Outlook, Copilot works where you work, helping you do more in the apps that you already use.

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2:29:13PFT Commenter:good show boys by the way i i'm talking to icy vert now i i think he's got i think pickensburg has got to go to Philly. I think that's really what it is. He said the – Icy Vert made a good point. He's like the league scheduling two back-to-back road games for him was – you can't have that.

2:29:30Big Cat:Pickensburg got back to me. He said, I never got word if they're planning to come back to Pitt. But I'm going for sure. The Pens need me in the arena. I'll say it.

2:29:37PFT Commenter:All right, you know what? I'm going to say Icy Vert might be there. So Pickensburg, you have to look out for him because he said maybe. Do you want to buy him a ticket? Yeah, he said I'd buy him a ticket. So, yeah, he probably would be there. And then Pickensburg, if Icy Vert's not there for game five and the Penguins win, you have to go to Philly for the second press off. You have to.

2:29:59Big Cat:So am I buying? Are we sitting in Pickensburg?

2:30:01PFT Commenter:We'll take that part offline.

2:30:03Big Cat:He says he's going for sure.

2:30:04PFT Commenter:Yeah. So he's already set.

2:30:06Big Cat:Okay. So the Pens need him.

2:30:07PFT Commenter:Yeah. Ask him where he's sitting and then we'll just put Icy Vert in the same section if we can.

2:30:11Big Cat:Sick. Where are you sitting?

2:30:13PFT Commenter:Yeah. I mean, you can't have another man touch your shoulder. That's just a fact. Oh, I got a Monday reading. Do you guys want to do a quick Monday reading? Okay, here's the Monday reading. Hold on. Okay. Monday reading. This is at 448 today. Memes. What are you guys thinking for food? I replied, something good. Pizza, wings, sushi. and then at 512. And then Jacob replied at 513. There's a good chance I'm a little late tonight. I am in the hospital. I got hit by a car door opening into the bike lane while I was on my scooter. I'm okay. Just don't know when they'll let me out. And then Hank replied, sushi sounds good.

2:31:11Big Cat:All-time bar from Hank.

2:31:12PFT Commenter:I laughed so hard when Aik said that. Jacob, I'm in the hospital. Yeah, sushi sounds good.

2:31:21Big Cat:It was borderline. I was like this. I had typed out sushi sounds, and then Jacob's text came through. I read them. I kind of started to delete it, and I was like, nah, this is good. Yeah, no, it's so funny. It's so funny. Yeah. Chat thinks you're being so funny right now.

2:31:37PFT Commenter:Yeah, chat thinks you're being really funny right now.

2:31:40Big Cat:I laughed, felt bad, started to delete it. I was like, fuck it. No, it was good.

2:31:43PFT Commenter:It played.

2:31:44Big Cat:No hard feelings. It was funny.

2:31:45PFT Commenter:Jacob, can we find this woman who hit you at the car door?

2:31:49Big Cat:It would be great. If there's any good scooter versus car lawyers in the Chicago area. Morgan and Morgan. Morgan and Morgan. I will be contacting them tomorrow. So what happened?

2:32:00PFT Commenter:You just got smoked?

2:32:01Big Cat:Yeah, smoked. I had no reaction time whatsoever. I was going about 15 to 18 miles an hour down Chicago Avenue in Chicago. and then surprise surprise and then someone uh uber passenger opened her back rear door into like the rightest most lane the only area where i could ride a bike or a scooter um i hit the edge of the door full speed um into my hip i have the biggest bruise i've ever had and then that threw me into the car parked car on the right and then i went onto the ground so really hurt um and then the lady got out of the car asked if i was okay but kind of more in like a lawyer manner like are you okay and then i was like yeah well i was writhing in pain and then she was like okay you're okay and then she started arguing with the uber driver as to why she didn't need to give her information because the driver already had her information in the app

2:33:00PFT Commenter:and then she walked away sounds like she pressed you yeah she pressed you got never let a car door

2:33:05Big Cat:touch you no but you're okay so you went to the hospital i went to the hospital x-rays x-rays ct scans which was a little scary i've never had a ct scan but it made my penis very warm what yeah dude it was the strangest feeling ever they were like all right you're gonna feel a urinating sensation i was like what is this gonna make me pee but it didn't it was just it was really strange

2:33:28PFT Commenter:i didn't really like it and also we should just uh for anyone out there who doesn't know jacob Jacob is a former Division I football tryout guy. Almost. So he's got good reaction time.

2:33:44Big Cat:Yeah, they left me with absolutely none.

2:33:46PFT Commenter:He tried out to almost be an elite athlete. SEC. SEC football.

2:33:51Big Cat:Almost D1. Tried out for the Florida Gators four times at the position of running back, fullback, or special teams. I've never played football before in my life. Hey, you are Bernard.

2:34:02PFT Commenter:You are Bernard, yeah.

2:34:04Big Cat:Yeah. So I figured I'd give it a shot. I did, and they didn't take me. It's Billy Napier's biggest what-if at the University of Florida, people say. That's why he's at JMU now, because he didn't get you at Florida. Exactly. Was Billy Napier there for the tryout? No. Okay. Never saw him at any four of the tryouts. But the quality control staff got to know me pretty good. But now you're laying out car doors.

2:34:30PFT Commenter:Yeah.

2:34:31Big Cat:Well, car doors are laying out me. No, but you took the hit, dude. That was my argument, was I could show up and be a tackling dummy if needed. And the car door was kind of the, made me the tackling dummy today. Proof of concept. Yeah. We got to find this chick. Yeah, let's find it. And Morgan and Morgan, I'll be hitting you up tomorrow.

2:34:47PFT Commenter:And you did eat some of the sushi.

2:34:48Big Cat:I did. I did get some sushi. So Hank was right. Thank you, Hank. Yeah. Hank always sounds good.

2:34:54PFT Commenter:So you did sound good? All right. Good show, boys. Numbers. Kyle Schwerber on Wednesday. Awesome interview. In studio. Four. 85. 77. 56. 91. 24. Anyone else going to get this? 87. Because I have 69.

2:35:2534.

2:35:27PFT Commenter:Anyone got 34? Nope. No 34. 34. One more. One more. One more. Same numbers. You had 24, Shane. So not 34. Problem is it's not 34. This could be 24, though. It could be 24 right here. 24. 24 for Shane. Is it 24? 87. 87. Wait, who said that? I said 87. Oh, Jacob. Oh, Jacob. What a day. What a day.

2:36:00Big Cat:The ups and downs. Welcome, Jacob. Welcome, Jacob. You want to give a speech, Jacob? Yeah, give a speech. Quick speech. I would like to thank, first and foremost, my family, the Academy. The fuck, dude? This podcast, part of my take. Thank you. Yeah. And my least of all thanks goes to the B-word who hit me. No, she's a bitch. But thank you to this podcast. Throw a C-word on her name. What? Don't say C-word. cocksucker you can say any word you want and I'll agree that was a great speech that's exciting

2:36:39PFT Commenter:keep going with the speech thanks to more people

2:36:44Big Cat:thanks to more people thank you Shane, Zach, Max, Colton Pug, Memes Big Cat PFT, Hank thanks to all you guys oh my girlfriend who I don't want to dox but the doctors at Northwestern Medicine who were very good with giving me my scans and taking my blood and everything your penis for not peeing your penis for not peeing your penis that got hot yeah that was a weird part but everything else was pretty cool

2:37:21PFT Commenter:great job Jacob proud of you dude welcome to the club me and you anyone else going to get in memes kind of got it you're coming I'm coming. You're coming? Whose birthday is it? Oh, that would suck Hank if this all just happened again.

2:37:36Big Cat:Happy birthday to Keenan Allen, Charger. Also, happy birthday. I forgot my dog's birthday on Saturday. So happy birthday to Blake. A little bit late. And then on Tuesday, happy birthday to Blake Bortles. Blake of the year. Two-time Blake of the year, Blake Bortles. Also, happy birthday to Lizzo.

2:37:58PFT Commenter:There you go.

2:37:59Big Cat:No one else has anything to say to Blake? Blake Bortles? Happy birthday, Blake. Yeah, happy birthday. Wish Blake a happy birthday. What about your dog, Blake? Well, his birthday was yesterday. Happy belated. Happy belated, Blake. He says thank you. I give him a bunch of hot dogs.

2:38:12PFT Commenter:Blake Bortles doesn't strike me as a birthday guy. You might actually be breaking the news to him.

2:38:16Big Cat:Yeah, Tuesday is his birthday. It's your birthday tomorrow, Blake. Just be ready. You're going to get a lot of texts from people. Love you guys. Happy birthday, Arch Manning. Oh. Oh, Arch Manning. Yeah, great friend, Arch Manning. oh you did a good PFT you brought a friend and Patrick Stump the guy who looks like PFT who's that you know that band

2:39:02Thank you.

2:39:29Thank you.

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2:40:29Thank you.

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