Paul Bissonnette Talking Stanley Cup Playoffs, Sixers Get Swept By The Knicks, NBA Draft Lottery, Aliens Are Back And More

14:37PFT Commenter:By the way, I have a question for Hank. I thought you said the Phillies. Max, I think you need a little time out with how hot you came in this shirt. I just know what you're doing. I'm just saying. Hank, Hank, it was a nice day today. Why are you wearing such a heavy garment? It was a little chilly.

14:55Big Cat:That's fair. That's fair play. It was a little chilly out. That's a respect. I can tip my cap to that play. For the podcast listeners. I can tip my cap to that play.

15:02PFT Commenter:Hank is wearing his death sweatshirt, which he wears every time Philly loses in anything. It's his hater sweatshirt. It's his hater sweatshirt.

15:08Big Cat:Did you bring that sweatshirt to Vegas? No, no, no. I genuinely just, you know, I was gone. I literally dropped myself off today and, like, didn't have a lot of clean clothes. I just threw this on.

15:18PFT Commenter:Yeah. It's weird.

15:20Big Cat:I didn't. I should have picked up on that. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. I thought I knew all the plays. Didn't know that play. There you go.

15:27PFT Commenter:Hand up. Tip my cap.

15:28Big Cat:Tip my cap to Hank.

15:29PFT Commenter:You should have known that play.

15:31Big Cat:Yeah, I should have known that play. That's on me.

15:33PFT Commenter:Okay, Josh Hart.

15:34Big Cat:I think it's fair to say that after today, you can question whether Philadelphia is a basketball town.

15:42PFT Commenter:Whoa. Wow.

15:45Big Cat:You can't get – there can't be 70 % Knicks fans in the building and you say that we're a basketball town. It was loud. It was a Knicks home game. Yeah. And the players have every right to be angry.

15:57PFT Commenter:Tyrese Maxey said that. He was like – his exact quote was like, it just sucks. It does. He's like, it sucks. Hold on, I'll get his actual quote, but it pretty much was that. Yeah, he said, it absolutely sucks. If I'm being honest, it just sucks. That's really all I can say about it, man. It's hard. It's definitely difficult. It's only one way to put a stop to it, and it's we have to go out there and win these games. Yeah, I mean, if they play in the playoffs any time, it's just like you just give up.

16:27Big Cat:It's just the Knick. But Northern Jersey is basically a Philly suburb, and Northern Jersey has a population that is bigger than the Philadelphia area, and Northern Jersey has more money than the Philadelphia area. It is halfway in between Philadelphia and New York City, so those people are going to buy those tickets, especially when it's a Knicks team that every Knicks fan has real championship hopes. And right now, the Sixers were down 3-0. Everyone in the world knew that the Sixers weren't going to win this series. Everyone who's a Knicks fan is like, this could be an all. Going into today. I'm saying today.

17:04Big Cat:I'm saying today. Down three. Because Friday was bad, but it wasn't that bad. Today was really, really bad. Today was really bad. The game was over. I mean, again, it was. No, I'm saying as a fan base thing. What about South Jersey? Why doesn't South Jersey get their act together? South Jersey is. Where's Cherry Hill at? Yeah, I know, but they got to buy more tickets. South Jersey is a suburb of Philly, not a suburb of New York City. I know, so they need to buy the tickets. Right, because they have so much more money. New York City has more money, yes. Yeah. New York City, shocking. Yes, yes, big cat.

17:42PFT Commenter:Okay, do you know what I'm going to say?

17:47Big Cat:Go for it. Oh, you know what I'm going to say?

17:50PFT Commenter:Do you know what I'm going to say? You don't know what I'm going to say. Sure, sure. You said you know my whole playbook. You said you know a whole playbook on this side of the booth.

17:57Big Cat:Okay, congrats.

17:58PFT Commenter:Okay, Zach, do you have any stats for us?

18:02Big Cat:I've got a couple of quotes that were said in this series, and I was curious. Thoughts on the quotes and some information regarding the quotes. My quotes? This is. Zach, doing some research. You didn't. A member of this podcast did say who's going to guard Tyrese Maxey regarding the Knicks Sixers series. I already addressed Tyrese Maxey. It was really bad in this series. But just a quote. Who was going to guard him? But Mikael Bridges was very good against Tyrese Maxey. In the first three games of this series, he averaged 86 points. Close personal friend of mine. That's 10 fewer than his regular season average.

18:34Big Cat:And also, he did show a lot of heart in game two. Played 47 minutes. He also turned over the ball roughly every seven minutes of those minutes. Okay. I've got another quote from a member of this podcast. Also, I was wasted during this podcast. And Meves even said himself that he doesn't hold me accountable for anything I said during that show. I'm not Jack is but yeah memes is the one who put Zach up to this

18:58PFT Commenter:I didn't put Zach up to this

18:59Big Cat:memes you said that you said memes you said that you don't hold me accountable for anything I texted there's gonna be quotes here I have this is gonna be the first I'm hearing of these quotes

19:09PFT Commenter:I texted memes at like 3 o 'clock today and I was like hey make sure you got like you're ready with the quotes that Max said to you before he's like oh I already put Zach onto it

19:20Big Cat:I had Zach do it cause I didn't wanna do it cause memes isn't holding me Hey, credit.

19:25PFT Commenter:Good job, memes. Good guy. Good guy memes. That's just good producing. Way to go, Connor.

19:29Big Cat:Memes also, I don't think you've... Continue.

19:32PFT Commenter:Okay.

19:32Big Cat:I don't think you've done more memes ever than you have today. No. It was an onslaught of memes. There were some really good ones. There were. There were. There were good ones. I mean, some of them were... Last year's Celtics. Sorry, Hank. Yeah. All right, memes. I put his face on Bonnie Blue. All right, memes. I mean, Zach. Zach. Answer to that would be... How many do we got? Just so I can prepare myself. Just let him go. No, I would like to know. It's not like a workout. You don't get to know the end of this.

19:59PFT Commenter:Does it matter? Yeah, it could be infinity. No, no, no. That's illegal. Don't take that from him. Zach, take it back. Come on.

20:06Big Cat:Loose grip. Sweaty hands. All right.

20:08PFT Commenter:Come on, Zach.

20:09Big Cat:All right. Another member of this podcast did say. A different member. You said another member, so there must be somebody else. Remember, you're doing great. This is bad.

20:18PFT Commenter:Come on, Max. Let us do it. All right, dude. I'll just. Yes. Let him talk.

20:21Big Cat:Just keep dunking on me. I believe a member of this podcast said, oh, the Knicks couldn't play Cat this series. Total through four games, which would be the fastest they could have won this series. 61 points, 28 rebounds, 27 assists, and seven blocks. He was very good. I was wrong. I'll just keep saying I was wrong, but we can continue. You were dead sober when you said that.

20:41PFT Commenter:Yeah, you were dead sober when you said that. No. You said that to him before the series. I said that to him when we were out at a club. No, you said that. You said that before Game 7. Before we left for Vegas. Before we left for Vegas. He's going to be a matchup. Yeah. You're like, there's no way you can play Cat in this series.

21:00Big Cat:Well, yeah. And then he took a shot to his appendix in Game 1. But yes.

21:05PFT Commenter:Okay.

21:06Big Cat:That did happen. Wait.

21:08PFT Commenter:Who took a shot to their appendix?

21:10Big Cat:Joel Embiid took a shot. He doesn't have an appendix.

21:13PFT Commenter:He's the only one that.

21:15Big Cat:If we're doing semantics, he does not have an appendix. He took a shot to his midsection in Game 1. Yeah. Yeah, to where his appendix used to be. Correct. Yeah. Which shouldn't hurt him. You can't get hurt. You can't hurt something you don't have, true or false. Okay. Okay. If you get surgery, I'm going to punch you in so hard when you get surgery. I'm going to just.

21:38Big Cat:I mean, if you said it doesn't hurt, then. I didn't say that. I said. No, you said you can't hurt what you don't have. Yeah, you can't hurt what you don't have. Fact. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So, yes. You couldn't listen. I hope to God you have to get surgery. on your fucking life. I will kick the fuck out of it. He wants you to get a testicle removed so he can just punch you in the balls. There's a reason Oscar Pistorius has never torn an ACL, okay?

21:58PFT Commenter:Max, you started the semantics battle. You said he took a shot to the appendix. He does not have an appendix. No, that is you.

22:04Big Cat:What? That is you starting the semantics battle.

22:06PFT Commenter:No, you started the semantics battle when I said it couldn't have happened faster. And you're like, yeah, technically, yeah. Well, that was just dumb because it couldn't have happened faster. Almost as dumb as saying he took a shot to the appendix when he doesn't have one. No, because mine was inferred

22:18Big Cat:what I was talking about. Yours just didn't make any sense.

22:21PFT Commenter:I think if anyone was listening and didn't know, if someone woke up from a coma, they're like,

22:25Big Cat:oh, shit, this is the stupidest thing ever. Zach, continue. Another member of this podcast also said, Sixers starting lineup is the best in the East. I already took that one back. Memes brought that up, and I already said I didn't even remember saying it. Okay. Which cannot be true because the Knicks did win four games, the Sixers did win zero games. Okay. All right, and lastly, listen, we're 3-1 when the starters are healthy. A quick update to that stat. They're now 3-4 when the starters are healthy. Oh,

22:59PFT Commenter:yeah. Yeah. It's true. He's doing the math. Yeah, it's true. He thought he might have been a little semantic Zach there because he might have counted the Joe and B. Yeah, no, he did.

23:08Big Cat:There was a chance I was going to get it. You're going to get anti-semantic. That's all. Yeah. Max, I got a question for you. Max, when it comes to the future of the process and the future of the 76ers, where do you go from here? Good question. Thank you. Yeah, we have two young guys. Vijay Edgecombe is 19 years old. He didn't have a great series this series, but he's 19. Tyrese Maxey is still 25 years old. We're getting off of two contracts this year. We'll see what we can do. I was just going to say the ages of our players? Yeah. What do you think the path forward is? Because it feels like for a lot of the guys that have been part of this iteration of the Sixers, I don't know if it's going to get any better.

23:50Big Cat:This might be the end of the line.

23:51PFT Commenter:PFT, just to put in here, Andre Drummond actually younger than you think.

23:55Big Cat:Yeah, that's true. Good point. So he's a piece? No, I mean, my point was that we have two guys that are still young and one of them is in their prime and one of them isn't even – you can't even say he's close to his prime. He's 19 years old. I remember hearing about Jason Tatum being 19 years old for 20 years. I don't recall that. So we got one of those guys. He's 39 now. Yep. So, yes, this was a... What do you need to do to take the next step? What is the next step? We'll see. I mean, I don't run this fucking organization. I actually have a question for Hank. Yes. Hank, great hat, by the way.

24:38Big Cat:I appreciate it. Love the league. Yeah, the association. What? What is... You look like a security guard for Adam Silver. I wear NBA hats all the time. What are you talking about? He's got the little bedazzled basketball on the side. Basketball on the side of it is what I do. I like to respect the NBA. You know me. Guys can't get a fit off anymore. Adam Silver came on the show. We appreciate everything the NBA does, everything around this time of year. They seem to be on the up and up. I just want to support them. It's a good product. All everyone's talking about is the NHL playoffs this, hockey that.

25:11Big Cat:Let's have some respect for the NBA. Okay. Hank, I have a question for you. Yes, PFT. So just pretend that you're in charge of taking over a franchise. Let's call it like you're a GM, a floating GM. Okay. Who would you rather be? Who would you rather be right now, the 76ers or the Washington Wizards? Got to be the Wizards. Like the future, yeah. Without a doubt, the Wizards. Yeah. I mean, you have an all-NBA first-teamer, Anthony Davis. Trey Young has proven he can be a clutch player and win big playoff games in hostile environments like Philadelphia. And then you have the number one pick. You've got a lot of room to build.

25:48Big Cat:Don't forget about Saar. Yeah. And you've got Trey Johnson. He's a sniper. Yeah. All right, that's it. I have a question for you, PFD. No, the question is for me. Where would you rather be, a fan of the Washington Wizards or the Boston Celtics, the team that lost to the Philadelphia 76ers just a week ago? That's a good question. Good question. So, I mean, if you lost to the Sixers team, You suck because this Sixers team is not very good. They're old. So, yeah, I think I'd say the Washington Wizards. I think I'd rather be a Wizards fan. All right. Good answer. Thank you. Hank? That's the wrong answer, but that's fine.

26:23Big Cat:Obviously, you should be a Wizards fan. Okay. Well, I mean, our stars don't hate each other. Our star player. No, actually, Jason Tatum. I don't know if you saw the Instagram story. He posted it last night. Very much had Jalen Brown's back. Per usual, the media's trying to break him up. But, again, yeah.

26:37PFT Commenter:It has nothing to do with the Twitch stream 24 hours after a while.

26:40Big Cat:If you have one of your star players, Jalen Brown, who could have started this narrative for Jalen Brown?

26:48PFT Commenter:We're all looking for the guy.

26:49Big Cat:You literally just did the exact same thing I did with Joel Embiid, that it was a successful season from game one to now. What do you mean? That he was able to be healthy enough to compete. He wasn't even. I mean, game seven, if he plays, probably goes differently. But that's basketball. Joel Embiid also didn't play in that full series. I know. You can't use those excuses. You just did. I'm just saying we're talking about the future. We're talking about the future. I'm not looking at the fact that we lost to the Sixers this year. It's not like we are a fully healthy team. Again, you guys beat us fair and square.

27:21Big Cat:I'm saying for the future, this team has proven they can win a championship. The Sixers haven't proven. Has this team proven that they can win a championship? Okay, two best players and coach, yes. Two best players and coach for the Sixers, nothing. This team has won. They've made finals. They've made multiple conference finals, and they've won an NBA championship. It's not this team. Joel Embiid hasn't gone out of the second round. It is not this team, though. The star players have. The star players and the coach have. Yeah, star players are great when you have seven other stars on the team.

27:49PFT Commenter:The core. So we all agree the Wizards. Every team has star players and a core.

27:54Big Cat:That's how teams are built, Max. Yeah, your core was awesome. Hell of a core. Unfortunately, that core is no longer there. But the core is there. The core is there. Yeah, the core. We all agree on the core. You said every team has star players and a core. Is it the star players or is it the core? We have both. You said every team has star players and a core. Our role players are no longer there. So the role players, every team, role players go in and out. The problem, though, is our star players and our core is still together. You're like a bad apple. You might have a rotten core. Right. Yeah, that's something you've got to deal with internally.

28:28Big Cat:I'm going to keep that in and out. Is there worms wiggling around in there? Yeah, you never know. That's for Brad Stephens' side. Okay. Okay. Hey, Memes. Has Max said anything nice to you? Has he congratulated you? Was he a good sport? Oh, Max has been extremely nice. Yeah. I think he knew. Yeah, he knew also. Yes. I said it going into the first round. I said it during that series that I didn't believe it. It wasn't until game seven that I said a single positive thing about the Sixers. True. And I was fucking wasted. And I was going off of like an all-time high of an all-time weekend where it's my bachelor party of like about the game.

29:02Big Cat:Explain the high. Huh?

29:04PFT Commenter:Explain the high.

29:05Big Cat:He was going off an all-time high. What did the high feel like? It was a great weekend. He's excited. He was amped up. Max was like, yeah, ready to go.

29:17Big Cat:You're ready.

29:18PFT Commenter:All-time high.

29:19Big Cat:He's ready to absorb any punch. He had that tight jaw. You guys are such fucking losers. It's actually laughable. It's actually laughable. The two guys on that desk are literally the two biggest losers of all time.

29:31PFT Commenter:Sorry, top four picks. Yeah.

29:33Big Cat:Yeah, I remember doing that a billion times.

29:38PFT Commenter:Where is the process right now?

29:40Big Cat:Vijay Edgecombe's 19 years old. So that's still the process is still alive. The process is the process until the process has been processed. I get another question, Max. Wow. That's really good. You and I share somebody in our lives. Josh Harris? Josh Harris.

29:58Big Cat:The city of Philadelphia seems to have turned on Josh Harris, And I think they believe that he's – Yeah, he did a good job with the Commanders last year, right? Well, he doesn't play. He hasn't played the sport. Star player was injured. We got a brand-new stadium. That's sick. Yeah, that's the best thing that he's done. That's a huge accomplishment for a franchise. Listen, it's hard – You should hang a banner for a new stadium. I will.

30:22PFT Commenter:Let's not belittle getting new stadiums. It's a hard thing to do. You're also a loser. It's a hard thing to do, okay? It takes a lot of time.

30:29Big Cat:What I'm saying is I'm hearing a lot of Sixers fans that hate Josh Harris now because they think that he cares only about the commanders and not about the Sixers anymore. Do you feel that same way? I just think he's a bad owner who doesn't know how to build an organization. Okay. So I'm happy that he's a bad owner. Agree or disagree, PFC. With what? He's a bad owner that doesn't know how to build organizations. I think Max hit the nail on it. He's not a basketball guy. Yeah. No, he says a bad owner that doesn't know how to build organizations. Bad basketball owner. He didn't say that. He just said bad owner.

30:59Big Cat:yeah i'll let pft think whatever he wants to think yeah bad bad basketball owner i agree that's not what he said anything else you have any questions tank yeah hank how are you feeling

31:10PFT Commenter:because this was uh i know that i don't want to talk about the exact time that this happened because i don't want to get back into a you know a time debate but it did happen quickly uh that

31:19Big Cat:it happened it couldn't have happened quicker honestly like i was we were we were in la and And then I was in San Diego and I was at a wedding. I was excited for the memes and Max, a little back and forth. If it was going to go to game seven, that would have been a start to great week. Would have been great for the show. So back in wearing my producer hat, I'm like, oh, this is good for us. Good for the show.

31:40PFT Commenter:Nothing. Nothing.

31:41Big Cat:I missed one show and the series was over. Yeah. I didn't get a chance to talk about the series once. It just ended. Didn't get to see them going back and forth in the office. It was just over. And that sucks for me. It sucks for the fans. it sucks for everyone. I think that sucks for him. Hey, why don't we just...

31:58PFT Commenter:Let's just pretend that game five is Tuesday night. And we'll just recap that.

32:03Big Cat:Yeah, I'm down.

32:04PFT Commenter:Okay, because you did get robbed.

32:06Big Cat:But it is Zach and Memes. It's exciting for them. They look like the best team in the NBA. They look unstoppable. I mean, today no one was beating them. I don't think... I would be shocked if this team doesn't win the NBA Finals.

32:18PFT Commenter:They have an answer for everything. And OG wasn't playing. Now I know it.

32:22Big Cat:Now Hank is just going on too. he's the Grim Reaper going through doors and he's like, the Sixers are dead. Let me just go try and kill the Knicks.

32:31PFT Commenter:No, dude. No one's killing the Knicks. Yeah.

32:35Big Cat:No one is killing that Knicks team today.

32:37PFT Commenter:Do you agree with what Hank is saying right now? I know what he's doing, but I love the sound of it.

32:44Big Cat:So you're going to fall for it. Yeah, and if everybody here wants to say more nice things about the Knicks, I will listen. Memes, who do you want? Do you want the Pistons or the Cavs? It doesn't matter. The Pistons won the series. The Pistons won the series. The Cavs game went on the road.

32:58PFT Commenter:All right, so let's talk about that game real quick. That was Saturday was Cavs-Pistons game three, and we had essentially a Freaky Friday episode at the end of the game where Cade Cunningham, I think he had three straight turnovers, and James Harden had three straight iso ball, everyone get out of the way, buckets. He went floater, another two, and then a three to seal the game. And I'm happy for James Harden. He actually was asked after. He's like, how do you deal with all the chatter? He's like, what chatter? And I believe him. I don't think James Harden listens to anything.

33:32Big Cat:Now, why would you? Yeah. What would be the point if you're James Harden? No one's saying anything good about you. No. There's not too many James Harden defenders out there. We are. We're officially. Of course.

33:41PFT Commenter:Again, as strip club guys that we found out, Zach, you got to become the biggest James Harden guy.

33:47Big Cat:Confirmed already James Harden guy. Yep.

33:49PFT Commenter:Yeah. So, yeah, we're going to defend James Harden.

33:51Big Cat:The guy seems like he knows how to have a great time. Right. So I'm going to be in that guy's corner.

33:55PFT Commenter:And he was great down the end, but at the end of the game.

33:57Big Cat:I mean, he was bad for most of the game. But he was really, really bad. But then at the end, yeah, he kind of figured it out for the last few possessions. I'm happy for the Cavs. I don't necessarily agree with memes that it's over, though. I don't think that this series is over at all memes. The Cavs can't win on the road. Until now. That's true. No, they haven't.

34:20PFT Commenter:They lost every game in Toronto. They have not.

34:22Big Cat:But until now, I'm saying, they could win on the road. Factually, they could. Technically, they could. Technically, they could. I mean, you would just want the Cavs because of home court. Yes. And I mainly just want this series to go seven. Just kill each other.

34:38PFT Commenter:I saw a very funny fan theory. I don't know if it's a theory or just. I just never put it together. but there was like a someone was tweeting about Donovan Mitchell and they basically said Donovan Mitchell should be way taller than he is and he just stopped growing because I don't know if you could so he's 6 '1 what do you think his wingspan is? 7 feet he's 6 '10 wingspan what do you think his shoe size is? no idea 17 yeah that's pretty crazy he just stopped growing

35:11Big Cat:he should be taller his spine Yeah. Yeah, his spine, he like should have slept upside down.

35:18PFT Commenter:Yeah, size 17 shoes, 6 '1 is pretty crazy.

35:21Big Cat:That is nuts, yeah.

35:22PFT Commenter:Yeah, and 6 '10 wingspan. I just like this theory that it's like it's not his fault. If he has a bad game, it's not his fault. He should have just been taller. Yeah, maybe there's still time. Yeah, there could be still time. Yeah, I don't know. I was happy for James Harden. I do think this is like, I think this series probably is going to go, I don't know. I mean, like, they're both not. They both have their flaws. Cade Cunningham's the best player in this series, and that was the difference in that game is that he, for the first time in a few games, he had like a poor ending to a game where that's usually when Cade Cunningham just kicks everyone's ass.

35:56PFT Commenter:He's like, oh, yeah, I'm better than everyone in this series. He still had a triple-double, but it was those last few possessions, which that's not the whole game. But if Cade Cunningham is just the best player at the end of a game, then the Pistons should win. But I don't know. I just want more basketball at this point because we lost, you know, the Sixers, the Lakers Thunder series is the most non-competitive series. Yeah. It's trash. Except for the second halves.

36:20Big Cat:I would like, I was still a little bit blown away. Every time Tobias Harris goes out there and has a good game in the playoffs. He dude, he's been playing well.

36:29PFT Commenter:Yeah. And Dungan Robinson has been like hitting threes, which is, you know, it changes everything for the Pistons when he's, when he's doing that. I just, yeah. I mean, I would take the Pistons in this series, but I'm down for James Harden to maybe get into a game six or seven. I want to see game seven, James. Oh, Max, spin zone, Joe Embiid 1-0 in game sevens this year.

36:53Big Cat:Great.

36:54PFT Commenter:Okay. But, Max, that was nice. That was a nice thing I just said about you.

36:59Big Cat:If you were to rank the best second-round losses over the course of Joe Embiid's career, where would this one go? I think this one would probably be number one, right? Because of the hangover? Well, because of the – yeah, it was a successful season. Yep. And also because – Well, I mean, he did have 24 points on perfect shooting midway through the third quarter. Right. Everyone knows that. Yeah. Right. And also because you beat the Celtics in the first round. That's what I'm saying. I feel like this playoff second round loss from Joel Embiid is probably the best one of his career. I'd agree. I disagree.

37:29Big Cat:Oh, what's better? he was very good in that rat in that uh the series the playoffs where they lost to the raptors okay so that's one get a ranking maybe yeah that's one this is the answer to that no

37:43PFT Commenter:hey can you fill out the rest of the fair answer yeah hank will do it hank's gonna get the rankings but yeah i i uh i do want to see james harden in like a big time game six elimination game

37:55Big Cat:that would just be fun yeah we want to see game seven james if possible yeah big game james yeah

37:59PFT Commenter:So the Lakers Thunder series, I mean, we've talked about it, but it's just the Thunder are just so much better. And I know that there's been complaining about the refs and all this stuff. It doesn't matter. There's none of it matters here. Oh, you got the rankings off the top of your head. What would you rank?

38:18Big Cat:So the worst, I mean, the at the bottom is probably 2022 against the heat. He didn't play in two games to the games he played and they won and two they lost. So that's kind of a nothing. Okay. And then, I mean, it's tough. There's so many good ones. I think I would have to put this 2023 against the Celtics.

38:43PFT Commenter:That was game seven. Then I would go this year against the Knicks.

38:52Big Cat:Then the Hawks, the one who could forget that. That was the Ben Simmons, Trey Young. I can't imagine blowing a 3-1 lead Then I know The way that all went down I can't imagine blowing a 3-1 lead But his superstar was hurt Can't imagine blowing a 3-1 lead And your superstar just pass up a layup to win the game Then we'll have to go with 2019 Raptors Kawhi Who could forget that Iconic Game 7 In Joel Embiid's eye The ball just hit off the rim Went up Can't imagine losing a Game 7 And then it got to be number one, 2017 against the Celtics. Confetti.

39:31PFT Commenter:Oh, the confetti game. Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah, that was tough. That was tough. Good rankings. Great rankings. Some classics. Really good. Oh, yeah. Great rankings. Yeah, the Lakers thunder. I mean, what are we doing? It's over. It was over before they even tipped. The Lakers yet again had a halftime lead. Good job. They've been very competitive in the first halves. and then they just get smoked in the second half.

39:56Big Cat:And they're just old. They're just old and slow and tired.

39:59PFT Commenter:And the Thunder just have dudes for days. AJ Mitchell has been insane. He's getting paid nothing. And it's just the Thunder are like the perfectly constructed roster. And I know people are upset about it. And I've chosen to just be like, I'm going to enjoy the fact that they're just better at basketball than everyone.

40:17Big Cat:Do the Thunder also have like two lottery picks that don't play? Yeah. It's crazy. The McCola topic, and I can't remember who the other one is. But, yeah, it's nuts. It's nuts how deep they are. And, yeah, they're going to steamroll the Lakers four games. And then, I don't know, the playoffs don't start for the Thunder until the conference finals. Yeah. That's what we've said from the get-go. Now, the question is going to be, we're going to have this talk on Monday night. Is this LeBron James' last game?

40:48PFT Commenter:I don't think so.

40:49Big Cat:I don't think so.

40:50PFT Commenter:I don't think so.

40:51Big Cat:I think it might be. No, no, shut up. You don't think so, Max? He's 41. But he is a guy that's going, when he retires, he's going to let people know he's retired. Right, I thought so too until he started playing golf all the time. And now I think he's going to be like, you know what? This is kind of awesome. I'm just going to play golf. I think the golfing, the golf bug might have convinced LeBron James to forego another full year in the NBA. Steph Curry's been playing golf for years. Yeah, he gets to spend time with his son. He can golf when he's on the road. He's still got another year where he can be one foot in, one foot out.

41:24Big Cat:At least. This is his last game for the Lakers. Oh, I like that. He was just on the bench while everybody was talking, and he was just staring at them. Yeah. When they were down 20s.

41:34PFT Commenter:Yeah, they don't really. I mean, the Lakers are kind of in a weird spot, too, because Austin Reeves is another one where they're going to have to pay him a lot of money. I don't know. Yeah. Hank's right. Yeah, star players out. Yeah, you got to say the star players.

41:45Big Cat:Would you rather be the Lakers or the Wizards?

41:48PFT Commenter:probably the wizards probably the problem with the lakers are they're they're a good team because luke is obviously a superstar but they're whatever you want to say what the third fourth fifth you know if you want to throw the timbrels in there so let's say they're the fourth best team in the west the difference between the spurs and the thunder and the lakers is so vast it's crazy it doesn't matter it's like you could make the argument like oh yeah we're competitive in the West. No, you aren't.

42:17Big Cat:And going into the playoffs, I think you would have said like the Nuggets might be in that conversation, but you can't say that anymore. You can't say that after what happened. So yeah, I think, you know what? The West might be gettable now. We were just talking about how like the West has been the dominant conference for the last, what, 25 years in the NBA. They've got two really good teams at the top. And outside of that, I just don't know. So gettable you mean by, what do you mean by gettable? By the East. If I'm the East, I'm thinking to myself, in the next five years, we could take over the West.

42:52Big Cat:We're going to be the dominant conference.

42:54PFT Commenter:The problem is those two teams are so much better than anyone in the East currently constructed.

42:58Big Cat:I don't understand.

42:59PFT Commenter:The Thunder are just so perfectly constructed. There's nothing you can do about it.

43:04Big Cat:They're an all-around great team. Yeah.

43:07PFT Commenter:They're incredible. And we're going to talk about the Timberwolves-Spurs game after Biz because it's going on right now. Wemby ejected in the second quarter. for a flagrant two, which he had no idea what it was. Flagrant two. He said, what does that mean? They're like, dude, you're out. All right, before we talk about some more stuff, real quick from our friends at Jose Cuervo. When Cuervo enters, every moment just gets better. You find yourself in the center of the dance floor. You can't help but stand up and high-five those around you at the game. The room reacts like it just got the same text at the same time.

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45:04PFT Commenter:We hit our parlay on Friday. Yeah, nice work. So I think we've got another one coming Wednesday. Good job, boys. We had Knicks, Brunson points, Wemby rebounds. Easy work. But next story, NBA draft lottery happened. PFT, congratulations. The Washington Wizards are officially on the clock.

45:27Big Cat:The Wiz are back. We're so back. And that also means the Wiz are open for business because I'm seeing a lot of fan fiction about trading for the number one overall pick, mostly centered around the idea that Utah needs AJ to stay in the state, that there's so many powerful people that love him in Utah that are like, we're going to do whatever it takes to keep him in. So I have some ideas. I will be listening to some offers for that. But I'm just pumped. I'm pumped for the Wizards. We've been the worst team, maybe in sports, in the last 50 years. I believe it's been, what was it, 1978 was the last time we made a conference finals.

46:02Big Cat:That's the longest in any team in any sport. we've been really really fucking bad for like the last 30 years it's really funny to say that out loud after the first 25 minutes of this show yeah yeah really bad like we've been a dog shit team it kind of puts it all yeah no the wizards are have been objectively speaking funny not a not a team they haven't been a team i say it all the time that they're the least consequential franchise in professional sports. I think now that the Buffalo Sabres are doing some work in the playoffs, it's probably just 100 % the Washington Wizards. Until now, the process worked.

46:40Big Cat:I'm a big process guy. We did the process. We got two top four picks in the span of about three years. I want A.J. DeBanson. Well, if that dictates a process working. Yeah. Okay. What? What's your question? The Sixers had plenty of top three picks. Yeah, the process worked. Okay, yeah. It's a success. agreed okay we're in agreement then agreed yep we're on the same page yeah me so i i'm i'm very i'm optimistic i can't wait to get excited about a basketball team for what feels like the first time in my adult life um so there have been like a couple years where the wizards have been good here and there they've been objectively awful for the last like i'd say seven seasons um but the thing is they like wasted four of those really shitty seasons because they weren't like trying to be really bad they weren't like doing the actual process they weren't making the the personnel moves behind the scenes to uh stockpile assets and to get pieces in place and now we got the guy from oklahoma city running the show it's been cool to see a guy put a plan into place three years ago and then see it actually start to work and get results from it so have no idea what's going to happen with this team but um very excited i think aj debansa has to be the pick i think that's

47:55PFT Commenter:got to be the pick um i've seen you don't tip your hand dude yeah it's probably going to be aj i'm

47:59Big Cat:Just got to be honest with you, probably AJ. And I'm just pumped. I'm excited for the Wizards to be somewhat relevant again. And I said it before the draft lottery. I'll say it now. I think that play in or bust next year. Okay. And if Anthony Davis stays healthy, I think we might be like the sixth seed. If he stays healthy, we might be like the sixth seed, maybe the fifth seed next year. I do have one tweak to the draft lottery, though. it would be nice if you had to do the draft like 10 minutes after the lottery so like the gms show up you get the order yeah okay everyone go to your back room we're calling you back out in 10 minutes all the players are here all right go for it now you have to pick the rock the the good job

48:43PFT Commenter:by adam silver last year with the dallas situation everyone's like rigged this is the last year that we're gonna have the like true tanking because they're flattening the odds and all that stuff good job because he basically rewarded outside of the Nets and the Pacers he rewarded the worst teams so got everyone back on like oh that worked because the Wizards the Jazz and Grizzlies were truly tanking pretty much the entire year the Bulls getting the fourth pick was so huge because that was they were slotted into the ninth they had a 20 % chance to go up to the fourth it's a loaded draft they did the dumb thing of only tanking for half the year and it ended up working out because this is going to be awesome.

49:27PFT Commenter:I want Caleb Wilson so bad.

49:30Big Cat:He's kind of the forgotten guy in this draft. Yeah, because he's got hurt. He's so good.

49:34PFT Commenter:And even if it's not that, maybe Darius Acuff. I would just love that.

49:37Big Cat:Yeah. Boozer. I don't think Boozer's going to be there.

49:41PFT Commenter:Boozer's got to go. He's got to go to the Grizzlies. He's got to go to the Grizzlies.

49:44Big Cat:If his dad played here. Boozer looks like a Grizzly, though.

49:47PFT Commenter:Yeah, he does.

49:48Big Cat:He looks like a Grizzly.

49:49PFT Commenter:I'll say this. I wouldn't be upset about Boozer. I wouldn't be upset about Boozer. I wouldn't be upset about Boozer. I won't be upset about Boozer. With his dad in the Bulls jersey. Now he's in a Bulls jersey. I do think Boozer has the highest floor, lowest ceiling. That's what I've been saying. Yeah. He's bust proof. Yeah. I don't think he's going to be like some of these. Like, Kale Wilson could be a superstar. AJ DeBansa could be a superstar. Darren Peterson, if he just stops taking creatine, could be a superstar.

50:15Big Cat:If Boozer has a career like his dad, objectively speaking, that's going to be an awesome career. Yeah. But I think that that's kind of his ceiling.

50:21PFT Commenter:Yeah.

50:21Big Cat:Of what he's going to be. he's a super smart player i just don't think he's he's like exceptionally explosive either way it's

50:28PFT Commenter:awesome for the bulls because the bulls had like the it's been just absolute shit and and nothing to look forward to and now we'll get at least a guy that i'm going to be very excited about and uh i did see the take i love whenever this take uh comes out i think it was uh jeff goodman who's the king of bad takes who's like i talked to some league executives and being the third or fourth pick actually is where everyone wants to be because you get the decision taken out of

50:54Big Cat:your hands i still think you'd want to have number one you'd rather have the first pick yeah but but

50:59PFT Commenter:then if you're like some gm's gonna they're gonna have to figure out if they want to take aj or darren peterson if you're the third or fourth pick you just take the other guy and it's good it's a

51:07Big Cat:loser take and it's something that i would actually agree with if i was a gm but that's why you don't want me as a gm running your team yeah it's like i can blame everybody else but myself for i would

51:15PFT Commenter:You want the number one pick because then I'd take Caleb Wilson.

51:18Big Cat:There you go. And you dictate the terms on it.

51:21PFT Commenter:Big losers, though. Pacers. Yeah. That was brutal. They had to stay in the top four. They have the season, obviously, going to the NBA Finals, having Tyrese Halliburton get hurt in Game 7, a season where they were tanking, but it's also injury. So it was like, hey, we'll have a bad season. And then they make that trade for Zubak, and they lose their pick slotted at five. The Clippers get the fifth pick. Crazy, crazy spin of events. And also the Nets. The Nets kind of, they were a tank commander. They were just tanking so hard. Yeah, I did. And they end up with the sixth pick.

51:57Big Cat:I did like how the Pacers GM was like, I took a shot. Yeah, he apologized. He was like, I'm sorry. I knew it was going to be a 50-50 gamble, but we got a good center. I had to take a gamble on it. And it almost paid off. Yeah. So, like, I appreciate the honesty for him. I think Pacers fans have to agree. But again, the Pacers, they're the only team in the NBA that's never had the number one overall pick and never had a number one overall pick ever play for them in the history of the franchise, which is kind of crazy. They've never had the number one pick and traded it. They've never traded for it and traded it again.

52:27Big Cat:They've just never touched a number one pick, the entire franchise. Fun fact, the Wizards. Can you guess the last time the Wizards had 50 wins? 2007. No. Max? 2008. No. It was 1978. Whoa. 1978.

52:48PFT Commenter:I thought Arenas did it. You're a loser, Max.

52:50Big Cat:Yeah. You're a loser, dude. But also... I'm pumped. I can't stress enough how excited. I got to see some fun basketball in the John Wall era that got cut short because he fell down in his house and tore his Achilles. I got to see some fun basketball in the Gilbert Arenas era that got cut short because they tried to shoot each other. And I got to see some fun basketball in the Michael Jordan era that got cut short because Michael Jordan was old and washed. But I've never had this much optimism with a young core that's getting built up together. I'm pumped.

53:23PFT Commenter:Anthony Davis isn't very young.

53:24Big Cat:True, but if healthy. Yeah, if healthy. The amount of games that he's missed, he's played a relatively low amount of games. That's true. He's young. Yeah.

53:34PFT Commenter:He also just has the number one pick written all over him because he was the number one pick, right? And then the Pelicans traded him, got the number one pick. The Mavericks traded for him, got the number one pick. The Wizards traded for him, got the number one pick. Wherever he goes, number one picks just follow.

53:51Big Cat:I do have a trade offer for Utah, for the state of Utah. I will trade you the number one pick, which I'm assuming you'll use to take AJ DeBansa. Okay. In exchange, I would like the second pick. I would like Ace Bailey. I would like the Zameth the Zamboni that your hockey team has and then I will give you

54:11PFT Commenter:my ride better go with that

54:12Big Cat:you get the Zameth yeah it conveys and then DC will send Mitt Romney back to Utah so you'll take on that contract and that's my offer let me know if you accept the terms you have 24 hours

54:25PFT Commenter:I think it's fair Danny Ainge

54:28Big Cat:you know where we are

54:29PFT Commenter:you've been in this office Danny Ainge

54:30Big Cat:you know Danny Ainge he probably would try to get the first pick even if it wasn't a guy from Utah that was there. He just loves to make deals. Yeah. Danny, you found I'm simpatico. We both like to make deals.

54:41PFT Commenter:Yeah.

54:41Big Cat:Give me a call.

54:42PFT Commenter:Give him a call. Okay. Anything else before we do? Who's back of the week? Did you guys see Hank, your UFC evaluation? Yeah.

54:51Big Cat:I watched the first two fights before I went to bed.

54:54PFT Commenter:Oh, you did? Yeah. You are a UFC expert.

54:57Big Cat:And then I woke up and saw that Strickland won. Yeah. What do you think about Strickland? I don't know. I don't love the Dagestan wrestling. I like it when someone else wins. It's better for the sport of UFC. Hamzat was just riding him in the first round.

55:16PFT Commenter:I mean, we saw that.

55:17Big Cat:It was the fight that we saw where it's not as fun to watch, so I think it's more exciting when. But I saw a lot of the kind of crazy that Strickland basically was like, yeah, we were just doing a work. Like, we're actually cool. Yeah, they touched gloves before.

55:31PFT Commenter:And they were talking so much shit before. And he's known for being super abrasive shit talker.

55:37Big Cat:And then afterwards, he's like, yeah, no, I love him. We're boys.

55:39PFT Commenter:Good. Sell fights. Yeah. He said, he's like, no one knows who's in the UFC right now. I have to sell fights. I like when boxers and UFC fighters do that. Like, my job is to sell fights. I got you to care. Yeah. His face looked fucked up after. Good fight, though. It's fun. I think it was controversial. I don't know. It's hard to judge, though. the wrestling yeah i think people thought maybe it was controversial i don't know i know that john tricklin is just he i think two i think he's got two of like the biggest underdog wins possibly he was he was a massive underdog in this fight so good for him um okay let's do who's back of the week who's back of the week is brought to you by our friends at twisted tea we love twisted T.

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57:16Big Cat:Who's back of the week? I apologize if you guys talked about this Thursday, but aliens. No, we didn't. We didn't really talk about it, yeah. go off aliens are back yeah Wimby although I don't I don't this is like the 10th time this has happened where it's like oh shit kind of like the Epstein files where it's like oh the Epstein files are finally getting released and then like a little crumb comes out here crumb comes out there they released 150 pages of documents the government did about aliens proving their existence couple videos couple pictures but still no aliens no aliens yet yeah They just know that they can do the we're releasing alien files and people be like, oh, that's interesting.

57:56Big Cat:I'm going to listen to that because we want to know. I did see. I want aliens. Yeah. I saw one thing. You wait. Your team. You do want aliens.

58:06PFT Commenter:I think aliens are pussies. Disagree. They're probably listening right now. I got no problem saying it. Do something about it.

58:15Big Cat:They can't win on the road. No, they just like to just call these things out that could fuck you. You do. Getting fucked by an alien would be kind of cool

58:23PFT Commenter:But wait All we do is talk about aliens Like oh they're gonna come blow up our earth Do it then Enough talk Enough talk What if they do Well then I'll say hand up I fucked that one up guys COVID

58:42Big Cat:They were talking to the religious leaders And they were like hey just so you know You might want to prepare Everybody that goes to your services because aliens just invented us, and that's going to come out soon.

58:54PFT Commenter:Huh.

58:55Big Cat:Which would be... They said that? That was a rumor that was going around. To be clear, I don't think that aliens exist in the way that we think about them, like little green men, or like flying saucers or anything like that. Well, the saucers, do you see the jet? Yeah, yeah, but I don't think... That looked like a saucer. I don't think that it's aliens, though. No, they're little pussy boys. I think it's our technology, and we like to act like... You don't think that they found the technology in the 50s and they've been slowly rolling it out? No, I think that we have our own technology and then we talk about it being aliens and shit because then other countries are like, oh, damn, they've got alien technology.

59:33Big Cat:We better spend a lot of money trying to find our own alien technology.

59:36PFT Commenter:All right. Here's my real take on aliens. I think they exist. I think it's tremendously egotistical of us to think that they're coming here. The universe is so fucking huge. You think they're like, oh, yeah, we got to go get those guys. They don't give a fuck about us.

59:50Big Cat:They've been here.

59:51PFT Commenter:Yeah. Where's the actual proof? They just tease us.

59:56Big Cat:We go to L.A. for one day and Hank's a Scientologist already.

59:59PFT Commenter:I do think aliens exist because the universe is so fucking big that it just has to. But I don't think they're coming here.

1:00:08Big Cat:I don't think it's little green men that are getting into their spaceship with their death ray. I think they might already be here.

1:00:15PFT Commenter:Well, they want to be boys about it and come and hang and play E-Team with Nikki Smokes. I'm cool with that, but I don't really care. We just freak out about these things. Where's the proof? I think they're in the ocean.

1:00:29Big Cat:Yeah, Antarctica. Yeah, underneath.

1:00:32PFT Commenter:Maybe Dante.

1:00:33Big Cat:I think they're underneath the ocean.

1:00:35PFT Commenter:I heard Dante killed his set on Saturday night. Absolutely.

1:00:38Big Cat:Obviously.

1:00:39PFT Commenter:No, that was per Dante.

1:00:41Big Cat:Yeah, but no duh.

1:00:42PFT Commenter:He said, I crushed it. I knew he would. If he did have said it. the fucking dog. It was crushed.

1:00:46Big Cat:So wait, what was the most explosive thing in the alien thing that happened? The one that I saw that was, it was like the picture of like, it looked like the jet, but it was like alien spacecraft. And there was a bunch of, which I don't know if that's like the 50s or whatever, where it was like there was you know, confirmed reports and like people, a group of people back in the day that saw aliens, they took all their reports and then just like kept it hidden.

1:01:12PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right.

1:01:15Big Cat:There's also a story about an alien getting invited to the White House to hang out with Dwight Eisenhower.

1:01:20PFT Commenter:I'm just saying it's kind of like the Epstein file where people just keep talking about it. Just give us everything. Just tell us everything.

1:01:25Big Cat:I think the government is still just like they're slow playing it. And there probably is more stuff that would freak people out that they're intentionally not showing us.

1:01:33PFT Commenter:It's true. We'd probably be freaked out.

1:01:35Big Cat:I can handle it. Yeah.

1:01:37PFT Commenter:I think I'd be the calmest dude ever. I think they exist. I'm being honest when I say there's other life forms somewhere out there what Zach?

1:01:47Big Cat:we gotta respect aliens though they exist we gotta we gotta mend like this you think they're listening to this right now? I feel like they pick up all sorts of airwaves

1:01:54PFT Commenter:I think they listen to everything dude imagine if we had just a shitload of alien downloads that would be sick they like Twisted Tea gotta get them on yeah tweet up imagine if aliens showed up and we showed them like a Twisted Tea an alcoholic beverage and they're like holy fuck this is awesome yeah and then they just forgot what they were gonna do i don't want to i

1:02:14Big Cat:don't want to waste yeah i don't want to fight anymore got him got him to a frat party yeah

1:02:17PFT Commenter:let's grill out we we would haze the fuck out of aliens they would not have a dude throw aliens in in a in like a shitty iowa city basement that's wet with a with a handle of of cheap vodka they wouldn't know what to do no they would have no fucking idea what to do if they landed and they're

1:02:39Big Cat:like i want to talk to your leader who are we sending mincey speed mincey they would turn right around he pulls up his pants you can't you can't probe a man who's always keeping his pants up

1:02:49PFT Commenter:mincey just starts talking about the world series of poker they're like sorry we're out of here we're fucking out widespread panic we're out okay good good who's back but i want more same

1:02:59Big Cat:it's really more my frustration i want more i want to see an alien i want to see p and v alien yeah

1:03:07PFT Commenter:I do. Clip that.

1:03:11Big Cat:Okay. PFT. My who's back is the FIFA World Cup. Oh. Because everybody was saying a couple weeks ago that FIFA is a corrupt organization, blah, blah, blah. They're going to charge people so much money that it's$200 to take the train. They're so greedy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. A bunch of haters. And then FIFA was like, fine, we'll give you some civic pride and some city spirit. So they released a bunch of jerseys for the individual cities that are going to be hosting World Cup games this summer for$400 each. You can buy a Boston FIFA World Cup 2026 official uniform, limited edition. Yeah, FIFA does not give a fuck.

1:03:51Big Cat:They're running up the score right now. They don't care how corrupt you say they are. They don't care how greedy you say. They're even openly saying, yeah, we want to learn from Americans in terms of how to commercialize every sport to its maximum potential because soccer has not yet begun to do that. And so basically what they're saying is we're fully comfortable making this the worst World Cup that you've ever seen.

1:04:13PFT Commenter:Listen, if they do some memorabilia, I've recently become a little bit of a memorabilia guy. So if it's big enough, I'll buy it. I bought the Boise State Blue Turf. I bought a piece of that. I bought a get charged up 43 foot long banner from Qualcomm. I got the bills trough. I'm in the market.

1:04:35Big Cat:Have you seen these jerseys though? These are kind of hot.

1:04:38PFT Commenter:The jerseys. I don't want a jersey. But if they want to sell me like a giant soccer ball that's outside of one of the stadiums, I'm in.

1:04:45Big Cat:Do you like the Massachusetts one, Hank? Yeah. The big ass lobster. The lobster one is probably the best. If you had to pick one. The Seattle one's cool too. Jersey's for the cities. Yeah. Yeah, Kansas City is just nothing.

1:04:57PFT Commenter:Actually, PFT, those look like something you'd wear. Yeah, you're 100 % going to wear those.

1:05:01Big Cat:FIFA, you know what?

1:05:02PFT Commenter:Get the whole set. Send these my way.

1:05:04Big Cat:Get the whole set. I'm going to have to get the whole set. The Boston one is the best. You're right, the Seattle one. Kansas City is just like people playing soccer. I don't understand. What about Kansas City? That's what that one is. But yeah, FIFA's greed is 100 % back. And then also Skip and Stephen Ayer back because they did first take on Friday morning. and it's like they never stopped doing it. It took me right back to 2016, playing the hits. There was a little Tebow discussion just as a treat for those of us who are diehard Skip fans. They had Skip do his top 10 NBA players of all time.

1:05:39Big Cat:He had LeBron at number nine. Genius. Which was just perfect. Genius. To put him at nine, that's just why he's so good at it

1:05:49PFT Commenter:because you could easily just keep him off the list, but nine? Nine. No, he respects him. It's the Dak Prescott at 17, like nine. Nine is such a funny place. Like if he had him at three, it's a non-topic. There's some people who have LeBron at three. He had him at nine. He made sure that he was ranked.

1:06:07Big Cat:Yeah. But it was nine. Do we have his official top ten list? Yeah, it's right there.

1:06:11PFT Commenter:Jordan, Magic, Shaq, Kareem, Tim Duncan, Bill Russell, Kobe, Larry Bird, LeBron at nine, Will to ten.

1:06:19Big Cat:That's great. It's perfect. Larry Bird at number eight is awesome.

1:06:23PFT Commenter:And he said the eight players above him are all cold-blooded killers. LeBron James, over many years, has proven to be the most mentally fragile superstar I've ever closely observed. Still got it. Still got it. It was great television.

1:06:38Big Cat:Still got it. I'm going to watch every time they put those two together.

1:06:41PFT Commenter:Yeah. I mean, it was nine. I laughed so hard at nine. It's just the perfect, perfect ranking to just piss enough people off. Okay. My Who's Back of the Week is Grit Week because we're going on Monday is the first day of Grit Week. This next Monday. We're doing old school like we did the first two years, week leading up to Memorial Day. But I bring this up because I need the AWL's help. Where are we sending submissions?

1:07:11Big Cat:PMTbachelorparty at gmail.com. Love that.

1:07:13PFT Commenter:PMTbachelorparty at gmail.com. Here's what we need. And I'm not going to give too many details. but you can probably assume what this is going to be. We are trying to find ideally a construction site that would allow us to work for free labor for an hour or so in the greater Jacksonville area. If we can't find a construction site, an AWL who maybe has like a swing set they want built or something like a little shed in their backyard.

1:07:42Big Cat:We got to do more than that. We got to do a full day.

1:07:45PFT Commenter:Yeah. But like, again, I'm not going to give away who we might be doing this with. But let's just say the boys want to get on a construction site, smoke some cigs, hang out. But I think there's probably some legalities into just letting us on an actual construction site. So it's most likely going to be an AWL in the Jacksonville area who would potentially be willing to take Monday off and let us come to your backyard and build something for you. And when I say build something for you, I mean, we're going to try to start building it. No promises that we get it built.

1:08:17Big Cat:And you should probably have the thing that we're going to build. Correct. Otherwise, we're going to show up with something to build and you might not like.

1:08:22PFT Commenter:But someday you could say, hey, you see that swing set? You see that shed? You see that table? PMT and Blake Bortles built it. Yep. Not naming names. Maybe a barn. Do some Amish barn raising. Again, we're not agreeing to completing it. We're agreeing to hang out and trying to complete it. To doing it. To doing it.

1:08:43Big Cat:Yeah, we're going to do it.

1:08:44PFT Commenter:Yeah, and you also need to have the tools.

1:08:46Big Cat:We're going to do a build.

1:08:47PFT Commenter:And you also need to know how to use the tools. But we're going to be there. Again, if there's a foreman or a general contractor listening, it's like, hey, I can get these guys. They can just get the brooms going a little bit, maybe dig a little bit of a hole or something, something easy. We're down to go to a real construction site. I just know that there might be some issues with that. What are you laughing about, Zach?

1:09:11Big Cat:I made him laugh. I'm looking at the Gmail right now, the PMT voucher party, and I just said, how did the Washington Post get this email? Because the Washington Post, I feel like, is in every Gmail account just spamming, but this email hasn't been submitted to anything. How did this end up on a subscribe list? I'm sure somebody out there has entered it. Oh, fuck.

1:09:31PFT Commenter:That makes sense. Yeah.

1:09:34Big Cat:That's it. You got the mystery solved.

1:09:36PFT Commenter:Either way, we need the AWS help. I think it's going to be a very funny video. That's Monday, May. Someone help me. 18th. Yep. May 18th, Jacksonville area. Let us know. We'll bring the beer. We'll bring the Twisted Tea. And we'll bring the cigs. We'll bring the cigs. And we're just going to try to build some shit. What are you looking at now, Max?

1:09:58Big Cat:This is a girl that wants to date Zach.

1:10:00PFT Commenter:Oh, let's go.

1:10:02Big Cat:I'm looking at the emails.

1:10:03PFT Commenter:Would like to apply to be Zach's future fiance and your ticket to another bachelor party in Vegas. I'm in the Chicago area, soon to be nine-time AWL. Okay. She's the perfect, I feel I am the perfect candidate for this role. How old is she? 29.

1:10:21Big Cat:Okay. Zach, 28.

1:10:23PFT Commenter:Let's go, Zach.

1:10:23Big Cat:28. She jumps straight to fiance, though. I feel like we're missing some steps there.

1:10:27PFT Commenter:Well, she's trying to just get us a bachelor party. She's trying to get us back to Vegas. Good on her. Great move.

1:10:33Big Cat:Love that move.

1:10:34PFT Commenter:What if Zach just started getting engaged every year and then breaking it off? Yeah. We just kept on buying him bachelor parties.

1:10:41Big Cat:Yeah. You can't. Yeah. My boy is not going to get checked up for life. My boy needs to keep his options open.

1:10:48PFT Commenter:But yeah, someone please hit us up. We need that. And it's going to be very fun. And Grit Week. Get excited for Grit Week. Early Grit Week this year. It's going to be awesome. We're changing it up because we did last year. The last couple of years, we've been doing the Tahoe trip, which we're still doing. but doing Tahoe and then Grit Week like two weeks apart was not manageable so Grit Week and Vanny Woodhead number two will be making his debut. Yep. Official debut knock on wood. Big week. Huge week. Huge week. I'm excited. Very excited. I'm very

1:11:20Big Cat:excited for the first interview.

1:11:22PFT Commenter:So we need we need yeah we need someone to help us out. Okay Zach.

1:11:26Big Cat:My who's back of the week this week is going to be Barcelona because we had we had El Clasico today. And Barca made light work of Madrid. Oh. Oh, okay. 2-0. It's pretty impressive. Hey, what's up

1:11:36PFT Commenter:with Tottenham?

1:11:38Big Cat:Tottenham is now 17th on the table. They're clear. They did win against Aston Villa 2-1 on the third. And then West Ham lost to Arsenal, right? So it's over. It's not over. They're not completely over, but their relegation zone from earlier is not the same as now.

1:11:52PFT Commenter:Okay. So a good win for them as well. Did you watch El Clasico?

1:11:57Big Cat:I watched clips from it because there's an all-time free kick in there to get the day started oh really yeah all-time marcus rashford just hits

1:12:03PFT Commenter:an absolute beauty are you are you sneaking a soccer fan i'm like i dabble you know i don't

1:12:08Big Cat:want to is it mostly because the eyeshow speed no my uh my brother nick got me into oh that's right that's right and you're your brother's keeper also they got the olivia ordo ego bump they're wearing the olivia ordo jerseys in there so like that's a good bump for them as well wait what does that mean uh olivia ordo in the building might might catch a win wait they're wearing like Special jerseys for her? You see they got the OR up front? Yeah. It's a collaboration jersey. Oh. OR there. I didn't know that. They dropped him here recently. Okay. I didn't know Olivia Rodrigo had it like that. Yeah, I mean, that's like...

1:12:42Big Cat:She has her own... That's crazy. Big dub for Olivia Rodrigo. Kind of looking sideways at Barca. Like Barker, you should... I don't know that you would just put a random person's initials on your jersey. They just respect her game. She obviously respects Barca's.

1:12:58PFT Commenter:Yeah. Wow. Okay, good job. Zach, anything else in the boot? Any other who's backs? Max, any other who's backs? I don't do this. Yeah, you don't. But I'm just wondering if you did maybe today. I'm wet. Yeah, you are. Yeah, you are. Okay. Breeze Hall back. Oh, yeah. Congrats, memes. Here we go, memes. Also, NFL schedule coming out on Thursday. So that means we'll get it probably tomorrow. I'm so sick of the NFL schedule. They did ruin something that was fun.

1:13:28Big Cat:I don't even think it was ever fun.

1:13:29PFT Commenter:It was fun for like a minute. Because when it wasn't fully released before, now it's just. It's not. You know who you're playing. I know. But it's cool to look at it and be like, win-loss, win-loss. But now they've just made it where they're going to release like two games. The Bears and Seahawks are playing the opening kickoff. They're going to release that on like Tuesday morning. I'm like, good morning, America. And be like, ooh, tease.

1:13:52Big Cat:Yeah. I don't think I ever actually sat and watched an entire video from any team doing the schedule release. I think I would skim through it, listen to about 30 seconds. It's not that great. No. Just tell us the games. I miss football.

1:14:08PFT Commenter:I miss football, too. I'm excited for football. I miss football so much.

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1:16:07PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guest. One of our favorite guys in the whole world. Why do you say it? so many times every time I'm on. Or do you say that for everybody? Just you. Just you, dude. You say very like five or six times? Yeah, because you are. You're a very, very, very, very special guest. It's Paul Biznet. I needed that. Thank you for making me feel special. Yeah, TNT Biz. We couldn't have had you on at a better time. I feel like everything is... The whole hockey world is zoned in on Biz. You're the story for a lot of different things. Which one do you want to start with?

1:16:43Do you want to start with Gronk? you guys go wherever you want all right let's start i kind of i kind of figured that was coming well you got you got railroaded i mean is that all time like like you'd think if there was one guy on the planet who knew bro code it would be it would be rob gronkowski right yes like can we all just agree on that yes i'm sitting there in in like the back room and sabers are going on a power play and all of a sudden gronk comes on the screen i'm like oh this is awesome in-game hit from Gronk well it's basically he's the main focus we're not even really watching the power play as dog shit as Buffalo's power play has been all playoffs and even the end of the regular season and then they ask him about with Sabrechug and all of a sudden I get thrown under the bus yeah that was fucking crazy I'm although when it happened I I mean I was busting out laughing because it was so random but I mean what did you guys think well hey the the only thing I think it

1:17:36PFT Commenter:was funny uh it was funny the only issue i had with it was gronk saying the word high school oh dude like gronk what he was saying was his high school friends in the fact that he is 36 and you're a single man hitting up other single people who are 36 in the buffalo area correct now i'm on the epstein files not high school right right right because like if you if you just listen to it you're like wait what the fuck did you just say so uh also i only was sentence for biz yeah tough sentence oldie was in the box with him oh yeah okay so yeah maybe uh i'm sure oldie was just doing the splits and getting the morale going and trying to get buffalo's power play back on track he literally was yeah yeah i mean we're getting them on uh spitting checkouts tomorrow so we'll see what he has to say about it but obviously i was more of like laughter and then like why would like of anything to say on national television vision why would that be like what did I don't know, maybe it's because he had a thing for that high school girl.

1:18:39I don't know what's going on there. I don't know. He might just be jealous. That's what I'm thinking. I don't think that's the case, guys. Come on. This guy's a man missile. How many Super Bowls did Gronk win? Two or three?

1:18:50PFT Commenter:Or four? He got four. One with Tampa too, right? Yeah. Did it help at all with the prospects? Because that's the way to spin it. I got a few messages. Yeah, so Gronk might have done you a solid like that's how I saw I was like hey he's just doing business solid he's getting him he's getting his name out there being like hey business on the profiles hit him up he's when he's in the Buffalo area let's get it going yeah I like I I'm good though I just didn't need that like I would I would just rather have not have had that but once again it's funny we're gonna get him on we'll joke about it and then who knows maybe we can chisel him into a sandbagger yeah I mean I was a sandbagger Yeah.

1:19:33Our rough and rowdy. Our rough and rowdy. Yes, memes? He would kill me in a rough and rowdy, but that play, that deserves a, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. Right? Yeah. Yeah, he did. Okay, I love it.

1:19:46Big Cat:You would expect that he would be better with a bro code. I will give you that. That was kind of, it was a shocking overreach by Gronk on that one. Yeah. And his fellow Eskimo brothers, I thought that we were in the trust tree, you know? We were in the trust tree. You're an Eskimo brother with Gronk? We're going to stop it there. You just said it. You brought it up. I agree, but I said I'm stopping it there.

1:20:08PFT Commenter:Oh, is it the, what's your name, from Arizona who might have done some. I'll stop it there. Some film? I'll stop it there. Is she an actress? You guys. She's an actor. You later are the same actress? Actor. I'll stop it there. All right, so the next order of business, you in the most. I thought you guys would have had some funnier stuff that you guys would have brought up. What do you mean? We're biz guys. Okay. All right. Thank you. I appreciate that. I defend you. I appreciate that. Hey, if you tell us we got to fucking fight Gronk, we'll do it. We'll get our ass kicked, but we'll do it. That's one way.

1:20:42We should do a rough and rowdy where it's us three versus him handicap match.

1:20:46Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. That would be a lot more fair. Like a pack of lions jumping on him. Yeah. Biz. We are biz guys. Hyenas. You can be on Grindr for all I care. I won't say a word about it. Wait, is he? Hypothetically. Like if somebody had put his. Wits convinced I'm going to get so bored, eventually I'm going to turn over the other side of the menu. That's Wits line, word for word. I'm going to eventually turn over the other side of the menu. That's what happened. I said I'll do it, but it's going to be at a breakfast joint just giving a waitress a complicated order again, like I did with wonton and peaking.

1:21:20Big Cat:It's like I think David Bowie and Mick Jagger are probably the same way. It's like we've seen every vagina.

1:21:25PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:21:26Big Cat:What else is out there?

1:21:27PFT Commenter:Just try something else new. Yeah. All right, so the other business biz is the most biz story ever. You, the Maple Leafs hire a new GM. Who we like. Who we like. He's a nerd. He's a genius. Genius nerd. And then like 24 hours later, they get the number one pick. Where are you at right now with the Maple Leafs? So let's give the backstory. So out of nowhere, like so Brad Tree Living, who was the former Leafs GM, They just got rid of him with like a month left in the season. They cut ties. I had him in Arizona. He was our assistant GM there. Loved him. Like, great guy. Like, one of the boys, right?

1:22:08Worked under Don Maloney, who was an incredible GM. And we had a really good family in Arizona. And Shane Doan was our captain there, Mr. Coyote. He was with the organization for 21 years. Got his jersey retired. Like, if you think of the Arizona Coyotes, you think of Shane Doan, the player, first. and then no one else, right? He was the guy. He stuck through the team through very difficult times when it was being sold, when the league owned it, when every six weeks there was rumors of the team moving out of the desert. He would be kind of putting out fires and keeping the group focused. And when I was there, we ended up making playoffs three years in a row and went to the conference finals.

1:22:48And this is all when the league owned the team. We didn't have much money. So then Doner, after he retired, and I'll get more into this, was kind of blackballed and stabbed in the back by the organization when Trico and new ownership took over. Trico ended up becoming the youngest GM in all the four major sports in the history at 26 years old. But fast forward to the Leafs now where Shane Doan was one of the assistant GMs. They have a lot of them in a lot of different roles. They give him the assistant GM label. So my assumption, he's hired till July 1st, is he's no longer going to be with the Leafs.

1:23:26So when out of nowhere, and I expected Tree Living, the former GM, to get let go because things didn't go well in Toronto. They missed playoffs and there's a lot of question marks. Thought maybe he would get another stab at it, but whatever. So out of nowhere, they go through this GM search and up pops up this John Chica guy's name where he's basically going to be the first guy in line. Like that's the guy they're considering. and tons of people in the hockey world are shocked based on how it all turned out in Arizona when he was there not like he did an a great job by any means to begin with but it was the way that he left things so when they eventually named him as general manager me being a Leafs fan I was like no my loyalty lies with Shane Doan I want nothing to do with this guy and the fact that he got hired out of nowhere to be the Toronto Maple Leafs GM.

1:24:17Like, listen, maybe he ends up going on to have success, but to get one of the biggest, if not the biggest, jobs in hockey as far as a general manager with the track record he has is laughable. Can you tell us more about that track record?

1:24:32Big Cat:Because we talked a little bit about it, but I'm sure we didn't scratch the surface. We know that he, like, hosted his own combine, which seemed like a big brain genius move. Yeah, and listen, like, I'm just going to give you the facts, right? And keep in mind, I couldn't imagine getting the reins to an NHL team as a general manager at 26 years old. My maturity level at that age, nowhere near close enough to be the GM. So nor do I think any 26-year-old should be given the reins as general manager of any professional sports team. Like, come on here. What are we talking about, right? There's a reason that it was the record at times.

1:25:06So when he was GM there, I think the reason that he ended up becoming GM is because he befriended one of the owners. At that time, there was a large ownership group that had purchased the team from the league. So there was like 12 guys hanging around. I think they got in one of them's ears where they thought it was going to be a good idea because analytics was this bright, shiny new toy. It was just kind of coming into league where people were talking about it. It was this revolutionary thing. and he just so happened to had already started a company doing it okay analytics are great and all and every team in the nhl uses analytics but it is a department that the gm who delegates a lot of stuff uses as a tool to check some boxes and and end up making a decision it's not the end all be all it's 10 to 15 of the pie graph type of thing right along with what's his character like uh you know what else can he provide the group uh you know what's his what's his character like what did how does he gel with teammates like can he maybe play multiple positions so there's so much more that goes into decision making than just like pulling up a pie graph based on like what your your your your technology tracked when this guy was on the ice and how efficient he is so they end up hiring him and his first year there was shamed owns eventual last year as an Arizona Coyote.

1:26:32Mind you, the year prior to that, Donor had scored, I think, over 30 goals with the team. And then the year where John Chayka first year as GM, I think Donor might have had like under 10 goals in the 10 goal range, maybe 30, 35 points. But like at that point, he was obviously on the back nine, but you still have a great leader who's going to teach these young players you're bringing in how to act off the ice. And he was still undecided after that season, whether he was going to play the next year from speaking to him it was like no i probably wasn't going to play and even if i wasn't going to play like and they didn't want me playing like that wasn't the big deal so this at that point i believe the gm was now 27 year old 27 years old he call he texts or calls shane don't hey meet me at this breakfast place in scottsdale sits down with shane don't 21 years of service mr coyote most one of the most beloved people in the valley him larry fitzgerald uh kirk warner a very few uh people in the mix there and he says hey no long uh not only are you not going to play for us like we have no need for you in the organization anymore keep in mind the year prior he had signed a deal where shane don't took deals his whole time in arizona because the league owned them they didn't have any money and then now on his last that last year where yeah his offensive numbers weren't there but keep in mind boys that's not the reason he's around he's around for his leadership, being a veteran and just teaching these young guys how to be professionals.

1:28:00He ended up taking deferred payments on his contract just to help the team out. So this guy who did everything imaginable to help this team win, stay in the desert, as loyal as they come, the list goes, man of faith, community guy, unreal family man, helped out all of his teammates along the way. he gets called to a breakfast place to let him know that he's no longer wanted with the organization

1:28:25PFT Commenter:and shane doan is now with the lease he because brad tree living yeah so check is just following him around time out chica was not even involved with the leafs brad tree living who was the gm got the head gm job in toronto he had been in calgary prior we're fast forwarding like whatever like 10, 15 years here to where now Tree Living's with the Leafs as head GM. He brings in Donor because of all of his experience and knowledge, and it's just a good guy to have at the roundtable. Donor would go watch AHL games and see the prospects and bring back, he's really good at this, he's really good at that.

1:29:07What's his character like? He's a roundtable guy. That's what you need. When you want to be a successful general manager, if you look at the top five guys in the league, not only are they well-respected, if you look around at their table they have guys who might tell them when they come up with an opinion you're a fucking idiot like fuck you we're not doing that that's what you want you want people combating what you you want people with strong opinions who might call you out on something they disagree with you on right so that was number one on the list so then as he's gm for the team um the nhl does a combine and you have to any team only gets access to these players during these windows of times for obvious reasons like nobody gets an advantage so what happened was is he hired a third party uh who was a former trainer with the coyotes to go test let's say let's start here with one kid so this is the original one that ends up coming up as like the oh they he tested a guy and like he wasn't at the combine like what was this so then the excuse that was used was well this guy wasn't a part of the top prospects game and they we were never going to get an opportunity to to test him therefore that's why we did it well they dug into it a little more i guess they tested the guy third party in october the top prospects team or whatever it was haven't even hadn't even been announced by them right so it was a so then they look more into it and sure enough, they'd done it with dozens of guys or like a number of guys.

1:30:41So they cheated. So what happened was is boom, they lost a first round draft pick, a second round draft pick, a third round draft pick. Now to say that the NHL GMs are a boys club would be an understatement. Steve Iserman, Doug Armstrong. There's a bunch of guys at the top where they're well-respected. They've been around a while. Ken Holland, and they've done it so long and they do it with integrity that they all respect one another so uh lou lamarillo could you imagine these guys when they find out that this young fucking punk who stabbed shane doan in the back is now testing these guys behind the scenes to get an advantage on them okay all right listen let's swipe that one under the rug who gives a shit so because he's such a genius gm at that time and uh it was It's COVID time.

1:31:31So they shut down the league and they figured out, okay, we're going to reboot things in this bubble and we're going to do like a play-in because it's unfair to some teams who are on the outside looking in that we're maybe trending in the right direction. Let's do a play-in because it's COVID and it's different. And all these teams are going to go into the bubble that were within striking distance, I believe 12 from each conference. Well, right before that, earlier in the season, they had signed John Chayka to a four-year extension they gave him a four-year deal now all of a sudden you get you hired as a young gm you haven't really done much here's four years of security for you after you've really proven nothing hey good for him that's great he goes to the owners the the the new ownership group fuck i'm drawing a break the murillos they purchased the team off of all those guys in the midst of all this and they were now the majority owners of the team so they're the ones who extended him.

1:32:28He goes to them and he says, I'm going to go meet with the New Jersey Devils and I'm going to go talk to them about something unrelated than being hired there to work for the New Jersey Devils. They say, oh, okay. Well, as long as you're going to meet with the Devils to not take a job and it's something unrelated to that. He goes to New Jersey, comes back how many ever days later? And he tells them, I'm leaving the team and I'm going to go work with the New Jersey Devils. And they're like, no, you're not. We signed you to a four-year extension with a non-compete. And he's like, well, I'm going to be doing other things for them.

1:33:03Then you guys need to fire me and I'm going to go work for them. And they're like, no, you're going to fucking keep working for us. And you're going to go to the bubble where the team's going right now, because we've kind of made playoffs for the first time in a while. And we just gave you a four-year extension. He says, nope, not going to the bubble. So refuses. The league eventually looks into everything and then he is relieved of his duties and fired that was the last time he was a gm in the national hockey league so the biggest richest organization in the nhl after that that layover is now going to just after doing a an extensive shirts for general managers is going to name him to the head of position now listen i have no ill will towards it go on and go have sex uh sex jesus success with the Leafs.

1:33:49Go. I want nothing to do with it. I actually think that's fair. I want nothing to do with it, buddy. All this has to do with the fact that my buddy Shane Doan, who went to bat for me and in times where maybe I was on the bubble on a cusp by with the Coyotes, he was the guy in the room saying, no, we want biz for the morale in the locker room because the guys like him. So if it wasn't for him, I might not even get the five years in the NHL. if it wasn't for him I don't have the most enjoyable five years of my my professional hockey career and for and and he was the catalyst and the captain the leader when I was going through tough spots who could I go talk to he had a family at home with four kids and he was the guy that any guy in that locker room could lean on I would take a bullet for that guy so the fact that all that went down the now the team's gone because of the shit show and and all all these little things have part to do with why the coyotes left among the ownership group and decision making along the way and um that was my decision as to why i'm no longer with them now the funny the funny part of it is is i announced that yep and then they got the the steve simmons who's a reporter obviously did some research and at the press conference asks an absolute bomb of a question i thought it was a little offside i don't think the guy deserved to get hammered on the way that he did regardless of what he did to my friend i thought it was a bit much and the fact that the steve simmons guy could have asked him instead of asking pelly about the question he had john to the left of him fucking have the balls to ask chica about it what was the question it was basically like to pelly it goes you told me that you've done extensive research and have done your due diligence when i've talked to 20 people around the league and 19 of them have told me that this guy has no credibility he's a snake uh snake oil salesman he's foolish and just basically like like question completely question the guy's character where once again if you're gonna ask the question just ask it to john chica but that's regardless of that with the fact that they named him that with the fact that that's the press conference obviously leafs land and the whole hockey world's going into an absolute fucking meltdown right and then sure enough the next stay on ESPN is the lottery draft.

1:36:08And because of the job and the tank job that Leafs did towards the end of the season after Olympics, even though they were probably trying to win, they ended up being top five worst teams, therefore eligible to get the first overall pick, like huge bounce. Because if you finish, if you finish like six to like 11th, your odds dropped way worse. And if they were able to stay in the top five picks, they wouldn't have have to given up their pick to the Boston Bruins. So there was so much at stake where maybe they wouldn't have had a first round pick for the next two years, teams in shambles. And then more than likely, Austin Matthews, their captain and franchise player, is like, all right, this is a shit show.

1:36:45I'm out of here. I want to go win. And then, boom, it's automatic rebuild. They end up getting the lottery ball, number 12, my number with the Coyotes. Oh, wow. Which went just like, when it popped up and it was number 12 and the Leafs got the first overall pick and I had just quit the team the day prior. Witt was on his knees at home laughing his dick off in front of the TV at the fact that this has happened to us. Like the Sabres chug. We're taking so many L's on our podcast right now. It's crazy. And they end up getting the first overall pick who I said in the prior podcast, assuming that it was going to be them, Gavin McKenna, who a kid I want to follow.

1:37:29I think he's going to be a phenom. I'm going to follow wherever he goes. Well, now I don't get to follow him because I'm sure the Leafs are going to draft him. So I just got to reemphasize here. I have no ill will towards this John Chica other than the fact that he stabbed my buddy in the back. I believe that people can grow and mature and get older. And I think that he was put in a situation that he was in way over his head. And even if he was just getting word from the ownership group or management or whoever else was involved, I'm pretty sure he had his hand in it and the fact that he didn't want anybody threatening his integrity or his questioning or whatever he wanted to do with the team at the round table and that's why he was fucking he got his throat slit

1:38:14PFT Commenter:at the table but I love that you are a ride or die friend I actually want to apologize because PFT and I did on Tuesday night when we joined your chicklets live stream which I think we had technical difficulties we couldn't even hear what you guys were saying Grinelli hit me up was like hey you want to troll biz i had none i had none of the backstory boys i'm with you now i you know what biz as of right this second until you tell us we can do it we will never again utter the words this is a leaf's year wow that is such a band because we ride with you and obviously i ride with you guys and i love you boys and even if you didn't and you wanted to keep trolling me like hockey is in such an amazing place right now.

1:39:00The gameplay, playoffs, the parody, and the fact that you have these Bravo-type, Bachelorette-type chaotic things, drama-wise, happening off the ice. There's nothing better than the NHL right now. It's crazy. We're the top dogs right now, and it's so cool to see because the players reciprocate the energy of the fans and vice versa, and that's the passion of hockey fans. and I still love Leafs Nation and the people involved. The ones who are coming at me where they're like, it's all about the crest. I don't give a fuck about the front of the crest rather than my good friend and that's the end of that.

1:39:42So hopefully they can see where I'm coming from and I'm glad you guys got the backstory. But at the end of the day, this is complete theater. It's theater. And I'm interested to see what they're able to do, the Leafs, because I think that with their roster right now, I think that they'll be in playoffs next year.

1:39:57Big Cat:yeah the fact that they got the number one overall pick after all this happened was just the most chaotic scene possible insane it was nuts i read a story that this guy when he was in in phoenix he had like a bunch of computer screens that would be on in his office and they had like charts and graphs on it but the charts and graphs weren't actually monitoring anything it was just like to show that he was an analytics guy and he's got numbers on all the screens have you heard that So I did hear that story and I don't know if that's true or not. I feel like that might be one just trying to kind of pile on.

1:40:31And I do think that this guy, he does have an analytics company and he is big into analytics. There is one other story where like, I don't have any personal vendetta about this. I actually like would probably shake his hand for it. So I was approached by a guy, Craig Morgan at the time when I, when I retired, I was working when all that was going down. I was working for the coyotes because I went back to do radio. So I got to hang around with Tyson Nash, Bob heat house, all the, uh, rich and Aaron who hired me, who was our PR guy while I was playing there. And who like allowed me to reboot my Twitter account and all people I loved and had my back while I was there.

1:41:08Um, um, so I was traveling with the team doing radio at the time. And I, I was drinking like, I, I don't drink anymore, but I was drinking them, but I was more into weed and I felt like the weed would help with my anxiety. And it was just to me a better high than being drunk. So I got approached by this Craig Morgan, who was working with the team and the athletic as a writer. And he approached me, he's like, Hey, I want to talk to you about like your cannabis use and like how it helps you and stuff like that. And, and I was like, Oh, sure. Just assuming that he had already asked the team. And so we talked about this article.

1:41:43Oh, you know, why do you do it? Why, how does it help with your anxiety? Like, I'm like, Oh, well, I, I obviously had a lot of concussions throughout my days, and I feel like doing that is a higher buzz than boozing, and I like doing it, and it makes me happier, blah, blah, blah. The article comes out, and the team is furious at me, and they ended up kicking me off the road. I never traveled with the team anymore after that, and they suspended me for five games. For weed? For weed, buddy. For fucking weed. For weed. Ridiculous. And, like, buddy, I was fucking trying to bring attention to the team.

1:42:15I was doing like a video content for him. But that was the moment where I realized like I'm fucking, I'll just do whatever it is I want to do as far like that. I believe at the end of that season is when I ended up joining the podcast. And I said, fuck it. Like I'm just going to do any other side hustle because why am I going to put all my eggs in one basket for people who are going to shun me and kick me off the road for smoking a little weed?

1:42:41Big Cat:Yeah. And are you thinking, yeah. And now it's like a mandated part of your job, which is wonderful. and it really helps you i just i just like that i like the herb like i i do i will try to i you know i mean do you guys you you smoke yeah i enjoy yeah not a drug guy but yeah like yes i love two drugs i like weed and i don't i don't i don't drink at all anymore i actually like prefer smoking weed way more than booze and now so yeah that was another thing like other than the computer thing like that's why i was like whatever i'm good and and and also my understanding is that that came from him and and worked its way down okay all right you're presenting a pretty compelling case yeah but i'm telling you is like i have no personal ill will we do though we'll

1:43:22PFT Commenter:take it we'll take the personal ill will we thought it might have been cool that he had like fake

1:43:26Big Cat:stats that he would have on random screen is in his office sound like a real mover to shaker and now what you're telling us is maybe not a great guy to you yeah we we hate him and we have

1:43:35PFT Commenter:your back we'll do it you just tell us texas stuff you want us to say and we'll just say it I think we just let them be. Okay. All right. Let's talk hockey right now. It's been awesome playoffs. Let's start with the series that ended. Hurricanes Flyers sweep by the Hurricanes. Zach, were you going to say something?

1:43:59Big Cat:I was curious. We did come to the conclusion earlier that a sweep may have deemed a city not a basketball city. Does a Flyers Hurricane sweep deem Philadelphia not a hockey city? No, no, no. Philadelphia Flyers. We didn't come to that. We didn't say the sweep was the reason.

1:44:15PFT Commenter:What else did you have, Zach, though?

1:44:16Big Cat:Oh, the sweep wasn't the reason for the. It was that it was 73rd. There wasn't 70 % Carolina Hurricanes. Got it. Got it. Oh, so was the sweep the reason for the wet? That's why Matt got wet earlier. He got wet earlier for the Sixers. Are you referencing the fact that Knicks fans kind of took over from his building?

1:44:35PFT Commenter:But what are you asking, Zach?

1:44:37Big Cat:So would that be double wet?

1:44:38PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah, he does have to get soggy again. All right, I'll get soggy if Hank gets soggy twice for the Bruins. He did. He got wet for the Bruins. He got wet for the Bruins? Yeah, I got wet for both.

1:44:48Big Cat:Yeah, he got wet for the Celtics, too. Yeah, no, he got wet once for both of those games.

1:44:53PFT Commenter:He didn't get wet for the Bruins? No. You did not get wet twice. Sorry, bitch, one second. We've got to deal with some of this. All right, so then Hank has to get wet right now, too. No.

1:45:04Big Cat:We got one wet for both losses. Memes, what do you think about this?

1:45:09PFT Commenter:I literally just got drunk. One second, we got some internal stuff we got to deal with here. I don't want to get yelled at.

1:45:15Big Cat:All right, let's ask Biz. Biz, we have a rule on this show that when your team gets eliminated from the playoffs, you have to get wet. You got to go step to the shower. I got so fucking wet. And so the Sixers, they got eliminated, so he got wet. But then we're wondering, is it double wet because the Flyers also got swept? But also, Biz, the same thing happened to Hank last week, and he just got wet once. yeah so i mean i think that you you you it starts at the top and hank's a leader and if he only got wet once then you should great ruling biz great ruling by the way we put zach up to that so that

1:45:46PFT Commenter:that's oh yeah you make exactly all your good stuff just got mad at zach zach what the fuck was that zach you're okay dude all right i so i have a real question about this series max don't get oh max we're good here buddy uh let's hug it out boys let's hug it out come on max you're not wet your drive if i could forgive john chica you could forgive max max are we good yeah whatever continue okay freaking out now zach you're good all right let's talk about this actual series though because i do have a question everyone kind of dogs on the hurricanes in their in their style of play you know the dump and chase and everything is that wrong because they also are just insanely good at forechecking and they seem like like is it because they don't have a superstar what is it why are people why why do people like get annoyed with the hurricanes when they've just started the playoffs with eight straight wins they look awesome what is it what what what pisses people off about the hurricanes i don't know i i you know i i i can understand why some some people might think that their system is boring and maybe in the past i will definitely say that so far this playoff like they have not been they've been electric like they've scored some amazing goals off the rush um they do like so many amazing things well and in fact like they don't like they're the opposite of boring they don't just sit back they constantly attack you even when they're playing defense like they'll be up in your face like if they have forwards on a on a control breakout swing and like inside their own blue line like they're gonna have d-man up in their face so i think that it's a bad narrative now okay i could understand why maybe in years past like people didn't take them seriously because they knew once they got out of the metro and they met a team like florida who was just bigger stronger did have those superstars that they would get worked well because people thought their system was a little bit boring they didn't take them seriously and they knew that they would get worked by a team like florida who had all those things that they didn't well when florida ended up working them like they got to say haha i told you so um i don't think that they have in the east any team like florida remaining and i think that they're out to prove a lot of people wrong and they have a massive massive chip on their shoulder and they deserve any bit of credit that they've they're getting and if anyone has doubted them or said negative things at this point at least they should be getting on their hands and knees begging for forgiveness okay because i i like that because i like i've i've watched some of these hurricane games no they're not like they're the way they forge they just basically say we're going to put pressure on you the entire game and it's gonna suck beyond belief for you because you can't get the puck out of your own zone and it's like fun to watch that style of play.

1:48:44PFT Commenter:I get it. No superstars, but they just constantly keep going at them, and there's nothing you can do about it.

1:48:51Big Cat:I don't think they've been that boring as much as what you kind of alluded to, that it just sucks to play against them. You hate playing against them because it's boring. From my point of view, if I was rooting for the Capitals against the Hurricanes in the playoffs, it sucked. It was like nothing good would happen. They're not giving you any time and space. If anything, if you're a Carolina Hurricanes fan, they are the type of team that makes you so proud to root for them because they're not like, I think that they're still even at, at, in today they're still under the cap. Um, now to go back to analytics, I believe that if you took all the teams in league, they would probably base the most of their decision-making on analytics and making sure they're getting the best bang for buck on their players.

1:49:35Um, and, and that's how they based a lot of their decisions over, over the years. And this Tulski guy, uh, who's like He would be considered like a nerdy analytics GM, but all the credit to him and the moves that he's made. He tried to make a big play last year where he came off of Natchez, moved him to Colorado, got Rottenan without having him agreed to sign a contract. Rottenan ended up saying, no, I don't really want to be here. And that fizzled through. But on the goal line, coming towards the deadline last year, he made a trade to get Rottenan. So Rottenan, this unreal elite player, goes from getting poached from Colorado where he'd won a cup, doesn't want to sign in Carolina, and he moves him at the deadline to Dallas for Stankhoven and then somehow works out a three-way trade to get Taylor Hall.

1:50:24Well, along with a guy they drafted and developed in Jackson Blake, a former player, Jason Blake. Son, they've formed the second line on that team and they're the hottest line in playoffs right now. So they have two of these guys locked in moving forward between Stankhoven and Jackson Blake at just over 11 million bucks for the next eight years and they're dominating playoffs rotten and cost dallas 12 million so smart smart moves very efficient players and then they got a guy taylor hall who won a heart trophy with the new jersey devils former first overall pick they get got him off of buffalo or excuse me chicago for cents on the dollar and then they signed him to a deal where i think he's making four million so you have the hottest line in the league making three million then you paid the one superstar that you got rid of at the deadline last year that's fucking making moves baby okay and aside from that the the last compliment and stroke off i'll give them i think it has to do with the culture setter a guy who won a stanley cup there and rod brindamore he's their head coach he was a maniac when he played he would be the guy first guy to the rink in the gym workout before practice hardest working guy in practice last guy on the ice after practice go to the gym last guy to leave the rink uh working out after games this guy retired he should be in the hall of fame as a player isn't and now he's led the carolina hurricanes since he's been head coach to i believe eight or nine now uh playoff appearances and this is his third trip to the conference finals i believe in the last four years where the last two times they've been they've been swept uh but man this guy he gets the most out of his players an absolute culture setter he's on a hometown discount as head coach there and it is honestly if you are a fan of sport you you have to be in love with the carolina hurricanes in their story okay i like this and i like this you have to the you have to and credit to philly because everything they did this year to turn around their organization with rick talkett and management and despite all the noise and bullshit on the outside to get to the second round when they had a 3.8 percent chance with a lot of young guys in that lineup following the olympics to even make playoffs to beat pittsburgh in the battle battle of pennsylvania with three four hall of famers on the other side kudos to philadelphia and my boy rick talker for doing what they did this year

1:52:45Big Cat:so with the olympics it's interesting you brought that up because i was going to ask you if if there's been any noticeable trend of like any of the guys that played on the olympic team um have have they bounced but like when they came back to uh to their teams have they been playing better have they been playing worse like they're tired out has there been any any like noticeable thread that you've seen between all the olympians um i think that for the majority of them i think that they have like like exceeded my expectations and and outperformed expectations based on how much hockey they've played this year these guys are going the hockey is such a brutal sport boys like i football is obviously very difficult but they got a week between games these guys are lacing them up like like brock faber and quinn hughes from minnesota played 30 minutes the other night they've been playing hockey every other day in games battling for for what eight nine months now and then going to play best on best they each lugged 30 minutes the other night they had five points combined i would say 75 of them are still playing to elite status and then there's some guys who are just dealing with probably sore groins and you know just hips are fucked up shoulders whatever they're trying to play through but i i think that that more than than not have outperformed my expectations and people's and still playing at an elite level lebron played 37 last night just so you know like yeah it's cool if they're playing 30 yeah he's 41 37 minutes okay let me ask you this how many games how many games in the regular seasons did he take off a couple maybe maybe a few here there to compare nba and nhl where any nba had to make a rule where if you don't at least dress for 65 games that you can't play in playoffs, boys, we're talking apples and oranges here.

1:54:30Anthony Edwards played 40 minutes tonight

1:54:32PFT Commenter:and his knee went sideways two weeks ago. Well, good for him. He's making$40 fucking million. He should be. All right, the abs. Is anyone taking out the abs? Also, do you have any thoughts on Nathan McKinnon going full scuba gear in the pool? I loved it. Like, guys can't play mermaids? What the fuck are we doing? I used to do that when I was a little kid. I'd get the scuba mask. I'd just dive at the bottom of the pool for like five hours. We can't do that anymore? We're getting shunned? Yeah, it was obviously a silly video for people who are unaware of how Nathan McKinnon operates. So for you non-hockey fans, this guy is an absolute dog.

1:55:16I think he's the biggest superstar in the league that will go and quote-unquote handle his own business I'm not talking about fighting per se but if there's a loose puck in a corner he's going to try to take your fucking head off to get it and that's not what you see from skilled high-end players all the time they try to preserve themselves but he'll go reverse hits he'll go shoulder-to-shoulder with you heading into the wall to get the advantage he also handles his off ice as more intense probably than anyone in the league as far as diet preparation he has a mental coach physically hyperbaric chambers like anything to get the edge he will do it and one thing that Tyson Berry his good friend who played with him in Colorado brought to our knowledge was in order to like recover he gets to zone two cardio on his off days and he does it through low impact exercise in the swimming pool so he does that he'll go in there with the snorkeler and the and the goggles and with the the the footsie things and he just kind of gets his heart rate going and he goes and does loser laps with with the scuba gear on and obviously it's it's a little bizarre because like i bet you there's not one other guy in the NHL that does it but he has some unauthentic things that he does as far as his preparation and who am I to judge him based on what he's bringing to the ice he's all in every second of his day seems to be accounted for and how he's going to be ready to go and fire on all cylinders the next game he's a fascinating human

1:56:54PFT Commenter:alright so we got no problem with the swimming with the scuba gear is anyone what is stopping the abs I know it's only 2-1 So like the wild, you know, answer the wild can play like they did last game. They they'll they could beat them like they like it was the first time in these playoffs. They will one that Colorado's lost and two, they've looked human. And I think that the two guys I mentioned, Quinn Hughes and Brock Faber can be a problem because they're so dynamic offensively from the back end. But they also have some superstar wingers and Kirill Kaprizov, who's the Russian. He just signed the biggest deal in NHL history, just over$17 million per year on an eight-year deal.

1:57:36And then they have a guy on an absolute bargoon deal in Boldy, Matt Boldy, who played for Team USA at the Olympics, had this stellar. I think he scored the first goal in that gold medal game or at least made the play. I remember he was, I think he scored. He went and dangled through Cale McCarr and Tabes, which is like unheard of. so they they are dealing with a couple significant injuries right now but they I believe they have the edge in goaltending So they have a couple dynamic D and then those very skilled wingers. Now, I believe that Colorado will bounce back in game four, but I also believe in Minnesota and the culture that they've built with Bill Guerin, who is the GM of Team USA for the Olympics.

1:58:17They're dogs. They're at home. They're down 2-1. And game four is going to tell me everything I need to know about both teams.

1:58:25Big Cat:Okay. I like that. What about the Canadians? Did Montreal figure out Buffalo? What a crowd. So first of all, if you're just like a sports fan, if you ever have the ability to go to Montreal to watch a playoff game, do it. It's unreal. They usually bring out a legend. He brings out the torch. He brings it out. They like ignite the ice and the ice is in flames and then Coldplay is playing and they're coming on the ice. Every Canadiens fan is in a red jersey waving the towels as they come on the ice. they know it's like going to watch a british premier league soccer game where even a little subtle poke check defensively they'll cheer for it yeah like bravo great job so the the knowledge of the fan base in the crowd is just so fun to be there and be a part of outside they have 25 000 people outside the building going crazy with the monitors out there too so you see that a lot with sports now but they like lead the way in that regard and they're the new york yankees of of like the players the way they're treated they got paparazzi it's just insane and martin saint louis a french canadian player who was uh you know he's a hall of famer i don't know if he is yet but he might be but he should be uh won stanley cup i believe he won an mvp he's now their head coach and has taken this young group to the next level and they yeah they they have a great well-built team like they just they have a really good team top four lines their their d are very good they They got good contracts.

1:59:56They have a superstar defenseman, Lane Hudson. Cole Caulfield scored 50 gold this year. He was a Wisconsin Badger. Nick Suzuki is going to win the Selkie Trophy. But I would say that right now, Buffalo is America's team, right? So it kind of sucks that the last two games they've laid a bit of an egg. But five on five, they don't look great. Their power play has been killing them a little bit, and they're getting fucking worked in the face-off circle. So they're not even starting with the puck. Like, I don't know what the last time I've seen a team get dominated as bad in this face-off circle in a playoff series where I've taken notice to it.

2:00:33They're like 60 % to 65%. They're starting with the puck. So for five on five, that's just killing them. And they're just good. They feed off the crowd. And Buffalo is a little bit inexperienced. And you can see it right now. They look a little bit shook. So I'm interested to see, just like I said about knowing and finding out everything we need to know about those two teams in game four, if Montreal takes a 3-1 series lead, I think they're going to close that thing out and they're going to move on to play Carolina. So Buffalo's on the hot seat, and then the one thing with them is the question mark and net.

2:01:08Do you go back to Alex Lyon or are you going to Oupa Pekka Lukinen, the Finnish kid?

2:01:13PFT Commenter:Yeah, I just looked. They won 62 % of their face-offs tonight. That's not a recipe for success. No, no. And they were – Buffalo fans are bitching about the refs, but I thought they didn't play a very smart game. They need to get back to playing more physical and more with an edge, especially at the fact that they had the size advantage. Yeah. There was a big moment for me in this series, and it it was with greenway and anderson montreal anderson's with montreal and at the end of last game montreal was i believe up 4-1 and greenway is like 6-4-6-5 he's even bigger than anderson and he was fucking going up and cross-checking him punching him back in the head and basically bullying him and calling him a little bitch like fuck you you little bitch we just fucking worked you and your building and you're a little bitch you're my bitch and greenway just took it and didn't do anything and he's a fourth liner and i'm like bud drop the fucking gloves and pound that guy's face in and show your team that you're not backing down and fuck you we'll see you in montreal you motherfuckers didn't do fuck all then they went to montreal and got absolutely ragged all tonight and he didn't go after anderson he didn't do anything i thought that that was a very pivotal moment where hockey has a lot to do with intimidation and i'm a if i was the coach or one of the guys on the team i would go up and tap him and say hey fucking go grab that fucking guy and pump his eyes shut i don't even care if you're you're it's not in you you gotta fake it till you make it yeah grab onto him and wrestle him and then go to the ground at least i like that pump his eyes shut.

2:02:53PFT Commenter:As a Canadian, are you rooting for Montreal? I'm, so keep in mind, I'm from southern Ontario. I used to go watch more Buffalo Sabres game than Leafs games growing up because they would give us tickets at par and I would go to the old odd Buffalo Auditorium. So I'm kind of 50-50, but if Montreal wins, I would love to see a Canadian team go the distance and win. It would be awesome. And Paul Bissonnette, I'm not I said, my family's from Montreal. I'm French Canadian. You also like, there's you can't have another southern team. We've had the Panthers win and then now you have the Avs looking like the best team.

2:03:32PFT Commenter:You can't have a southern team win the cup again. Vegas,

2:03:37Big Cat:Minnesota, a lot of southern teams. Since that we talked about that, calling Colorado South, like southern United States. I've had a few people back me. we're on the cusp we're on the cusp here it's more west than south and I get that but we're on the cusp there

2:03:56PFT Commenter:alright so if you had to re-pick it right now we're watching the Knights-Ducks series right now which this will be a pivotal game 4. What's the score now? It's 2-2 okay but if you had to pick is it Avs or is it like have you seen something like Hurricanes I mean the Hurricanes have not lost in the playoffs I mean, if you held a gun to my head, I would say Avalanche just because I look at their roster, and right now, other than Josh Manson, who's coming back any game now, they look healthy. I would lean towards them, but if Minnesota wins next game, that's a coin flip. And then if Vegas wins this game, they're going to be up 3-1 in that series, and Vegas is good, man.

2:04:41They've got a strong team. They've got good goaltending. and the other funny element of the lead all the leafs chatter is mitch marner who is is having an unbelievable playoff probably one of the top guys like for like the con smites trophy right now he's got fucking half the amount of goals in one playoff than he had for the leafs his entire career and you could say that leafs fans kind of ran him out of town and i was i was ragging on a little but in like 18 games in playoffs that, and maybe it's 21 games that he played for the Leafs from games five to seven. So in very important closeout games where you were deciding series, he had zero goals and six assists.

2:05:22Well, this is a guy who won a top dollar coming out of his entry level contract, wanted to be paid like a superstar. And in crunch time, I mean, I'm not just putting it all on him, but he didn't deliver. So I was kind of like, ah, fuck. I'm like, enough. He can leave. We don't need him anymore. Let's try to solve our problems without him, regardless of how good he was in the regular season. Well, now he's gone off to Vegas and on to bigger and brighter things. So it just throws more salt in the wound to how crazy that the 12-month turnaround for the Toronto Maple Leafs has been. And I do feel bad because I ragged on him probably too hard, but he deserves all the praise that he's getting now and how he's rebounded and performed so far in these playoffs.

2:06:05And like I said, probably the front runner in the West, if not top three for who I would give the conspite to as of right now. Okay. And go ahead.

2:06:16Big Cat:I was going to ask you about like you're moving on from the Leafs. So I wanted to know, you mentioned that your fandom is kind of up for auction or you're searching, you're trying to figure out who it's going to be. Like what are we thinking about? Do you have like a handful of teams that you're going to pick from? so there is a possibility that that the leafs do pick stenberg as the first overall pick people say that right now he might be a little bit more nhl ready and ready to step in this is a very deep draft i think for the first three to five picks and so who knows maybe it's one of those things where mckenna ends up dropping i don't think that's going to be the case if mckenna drops to two, San Jose ended up getting the second overall pick.

2:06:58Right now, I'm rocking a San Jose Sharks Macklin Celebrini jersey. This kid is a stud. He is a fucking freak. He's the next Sidney Crosby. He didn't get nominated for the Hart Trophy this year because his team didn't make the playoffs. He finished with more than 50 points more than the next guy on his team and dragged them to the end of the season almost making playoffs, putting the team on his back as a 20-year-old, just dominated. He dominated the Olympics, like best on best. He was arguably the best player for Canada, maybe just as good, if not better, than McDavid, who got the MVP. But I digress.

2:07:37They got second overall and got lucky with the lottery ball too to bump up. If McKenna drops to two, I think it's going to be automatic. I'm jumping on San Jose Sharks train. Okay. If not, there are a lot of options I have as far as who I may go to. but as you can see, the hat I'm wearing, I might keep it neutral and not root for a team for like a year. Just be the lead. I might just wait, hang in the weeds, not be a biased donkey like my boy Witt and like I've been in the past.

2:08:05PFT Commenter:Yeah. We got a league off right here. NBA NHL.

2:08:10Big Cat:The league off. I think our logo is so much cooler than yours. No, this is the best. I've always said the Jerry West. You got no respect for Jerry West, the logo?

2:08:23I got respect for Jerry. Okay, nice. Good, respect.

2:08:27PFT Commenter:All right, I got one last question for you, Biz. You're the best. Rowback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. One more crazy thing about Vegas. They're known as one of the most cutthroat organizations in the league with the decisions they make. They fired their head coach, who they won a Stanley Cup with a few years back, four games before playoffs started and hired John Tortorello. So you talk about all the craziness and drama and shit that's been going on with the NHL. Like, it kept getting crazier and crazier and crazier.

2:09:01Oh, sorry. It was like maybe 11 games. There was another team that fired their coach four games before trying to make playoffs, fired Patrick Wall. Oh, that's the Islanders. Yeah, yeah. Islanders. Patrick Wall, Hall of Fame goalie. He went and convinced the guy to wave his no-move clause in St. Louis to come to them, and then four games before playoffs, they fire him and hire Pete DeBoer, who is a coach waiting in the weeds. So the NHL is fucked. It's unreal.

2:09:27PFT Commenter:All right, promo code take. Roback.com, promo code take. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, Roback.com, promo code take. Zach, do you have a final question for Biz? Oh, by the way, the name popped in my head, B.B. Jones. That's who we were talking about earlier. Yep, yep. So we had intercourse and she went on a local radio show the next morning because I wouldn't post a picture with her. And she told the whole valley I had a small wiener and I didn't last long in bed.

2:09:55Big Cat:That's mean. You probably lasted, what, three minutes? Well, it went longer than that because her boyfriend kept calling. Oh. Because I found out it was her boyfriend through that interview she was on the next morning for. so I'm heading to the rink the next day we have a game against the Chicago Blackhawks fighting for a playoff position and I'm listening to the whole valley find out I have a small wiener and I'm horrible in the south so I mean if you can't laugh at yourself then you can't laugh at yourself but that shit's funny alright Zach finish song I don't think I got a small one I would say it's like at least average you've seen my rope you're not shy helicopter cock Yeah, you're not shy.

2:10:41Big Cat:But I mean, if you clipped it, then you'd lose half inch. So smart move, not doing that. That's the thing. I must have rolled it back when she saw it. Anyway, roll back last question. Yeah. Biz, congratulations on having an absolute peace. I was curious, is Matthew Schaefer the greatest Canadian of all time? Oh, you're the best. Is what? Is Matthew Schaefer the future face of this league? And if so, will it cement him as the greatest Canadian of all time? no I would say that you can't beat Wayne Gretzky when it comes to hockey players and the greatest like Canadian of all time um shout out like all the other great Canadians like Michael Myers Alexander Graham Bell Justin Bieber um John Candy like the list goes on we uh Jim Carrey Alanis Morissette a little ironic don't you think a little too ironic yeah I really do think It's like rain on your wedding day.

2:11:39Sing with me. It's a free ride when you already pay.

2:11:45Big Cat:It's good advice that you just didn't take. Who would have known a fake bird? Jam. Matthew Schaefer is going to win the Calder for Rookie of the Year. he had probably the greatest rookie season for a defenseman in the history of the NHL this year and he is on his way to becoming one of the greats and I hope that he's able to follow it up next year and he's such an amazing kid and sure as shit we're doing this interview on Mother's Day and he unfortunately lost his mother to a battle with cancer and this kid who has been through and dealt with all that. Got drafted last year, obviously not having his mother there and had the cancer ribbon on his jersey when he was drafted.

2:12:34He was in tears. Obviously wanted his mother, who he adored, to be there. He battles through all that adversity, comes in his first year in the league and does what he does with all the circumstances. So what a kid. What a special kid and a special player. And we're blessed the NHL has him.

2:12:51PFT Commenter:All right. The NHL's in great hands. Shout out to all the moms out there, are the amazing mothers. Yeah, shout out to all the moms.

2:12:57Big Cat:BB, what's up? You're a fucking idiot. She is a mother. She is a mother now. Yeah, shout out. She doesn't work in the industry anymore. Not yours. Not my mother. No, not the mother. Not yours.

2:13:11PFT Commenter:Not yours. All right, Biz, you're the best. We love you. And we'll talk maybe before the Stanley Cup final. Boys, great. I love talking puck with you guys, and I know I rambled a lot, but I hope I gave you guys a lot of back information. and what's going on with our amazing league. So anybody who listened, thank you guys. Love you. And you guys are the best. I love you all. And fuck John Chica. Yep, yep. No, no, no. We said it. Not you. Not you. No, no. We're biz guys. We don't like the guys. You can take the high road. We're taking the low road. How about we put our energy to just – why don't we show love for Shane Doan right now?

2:13:47One of the biggest, best O.D.s the NHL has ever seen. Over 1 ,500 games played, over 1 ,000 points, and he's a hall of famer in my heart. Love you, donor.

2:13:56Big Cat:Yeah, donor. A human being. Lots of respect for donor. Yep. You guys are the best. Fuck John Chayk. We're a donor party on this podcast. All right.

2:14:05PFT Commenter:Thanks, Biz.

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2:15:56PFT Commenter:the program and you can save every time you fill up okay let's wrap up the show the timber wolves have tied the series anthony edwards dude that guy had his leg went backwards 10 days ago, and he came out tonight. I think he was taking oxygen during the game. Absolute dog. What a performance. I know Wemby's out because he elbowed. He had a little oopsie. A little oopsie. Flagrant to Dylan Harper's face, by the way, was so funny in that. Yeah. Chat thought he was so funny.

2:16:29Big Cat:I mean, it was clearly just like it was the right call. Yeah. It should have been a flagrant. No, he went after him.

2:16:36PFT Commenter:He smashed him. But Anthony Edwards. This is why the Timberwolves, like, you know, when Friday night happens and Wemby just has a historic night where he just completely he's an alien and dominated that game to a level that they were throwing out like the stats where the only other guys who did what he did were Kareem, Hakeem, Shaq and Wemby. Like that's those are those are the best centers of all time. And Wemby is in his first playoffs doing shit like this. and then Sunday night happens and again Wemby's out but still this is what the Timberwolves are they're just absolute dogs and Anthony Edwards like on one leg drops 36 and just will not let the Timberwolves lose this game and they've like Julius Randle has not been great and they still like Anthony Edwards like I gotta just do this and he did it and it's fucking he's the man he's just absolutely awesome to watch and awesome to like see He has that killer instinct that even when shit is going bad, he's like, I'm going to just will myself to a victory here.

2:17:47PFT Commenter:And now we have a series, which if you look like big picture, the Timberwolves and Spurs are just going to kick the shit out of each other and then the Thunder are going to kill whoever's battered because the Thunder are going to have a whole entire week off. But I don't care because this has been a fun series to watch. It's been a great series.

2:18:03Big Cat:So here's where I've ended up. because I picked the Nuggets in six against the Timberwolves in the first round. I felt pretty confident about that. And then I learned my lesson. I was like, I think that the Timberwolves can beat the Spurs. I don't know that they will, but I think that they can because I'm done doubting the Timberwolves after everything they've done. And it feels like the last three playoffs. You know, every year, they win as an underdog. They crush somebody. And I feel like the Timberwolves might be the team that would give the Thunder the best push in these playoffs. Just because I feel I've seen them do it again and again and again against supposedly outmatched opponents.

2:18:42Big Cat:So I feel like if they can beat the Spurs, I think that might be our best recipe to have a close Western Conference Finals. Yes, Hank?

2:18:49PFT Commenter:You're wearing the NBA hat, though.

2:18:51Big Cat:I am, yeah.

2:18:51PFT Commenter:You're a league guy. League.

2:18:53Big Cat:Would you say that the best case scenario for the finals is Spurs-Knicks? No. A little 99 throwback? No. Are you talking about ratings? Yeah. No. I think it'd be Lakers-Knicks. Well, yeah. Okay. Technically still alive. So, gotcha. He's right on that. Yeah.

2:19:09PFT Commenter:He's 100%.

2:19:10Big Cat:You're counting LeBron out. Yeah. I am. That was just my thought as a sports junkie, regardless of my own sport I play.

2:19:17PFT Commenter:Yeah, no, but it would be, realistically, the best ratings.

2:19:20Big Cat:Yes. The realistic scenario of the Spurs with Wimby against the New York Knicks. Yeah, I think that's it.

2:19:27PFT Commenter:also Dylan Harper was awesome when he had to step in and just he was great I mean the Spurs are really good it's just yeah when he's got to not elbow people's heads off there's no way he gets suspended right no I don't think so but there has been precedent for this type of Ron Artest remember Ron Artest like almost took James Harden's like head clear off it was regular season different but his elbow

2:19:51Big Cat:is up at people's heads it's

2:19:53PFT Commenter:different yeah and Ron Artest also did have you know a history at that point to where it was like all right we're gonna we're gonna get him anyway i it was it was a weird play because it was they should they didn't call the foul beforehand but then when be still you can't you can't do that no i mean he got he got pushed a little bit

2:20:12Big Cat:he did kind of snap i don't know what the monks have been teaching him i feel like monks are non-violent by nature right so like that he should figure out as a frenchman his first instinct should be to not fight back.

2:20:23PFT Commenter:He also should learn the rules because he had no idea what the flag is. What is this? What do you mean? I'm not playing anymore. I would expect a incredible Wemby game five coming up.

2:20:35Big Cat:Yeah, I think so. Memes, I saw I think you tweeted out about this. Is it true that Shimpagny that he's on the Spurs because the Sixers cut him? Well, maybe you come like a little bit close to pronouncing his name right. But just like a little bit close all right go ahead champagne

2:20:58nope champagne nope champagne nope champagne nope champagne nope

2:21:06Big Cat:champagne champagne here's the question meme slash max i have no idea what you're talking about what do you mean you have no idea you tweeted it out i don't think so I thought it was you

2:21:22PFT Commenter:I get fucked up sometimes from PMT stats It might have been that That will get me every now and then

2:21:30Big Cat:Let me look this up Yes and you know why he's not a six year PFT Your fucking guy Mac McClung They dropped him to add Mac McClung To their active roster so that he could compete in the dunk contest

2:21:46PFT Commenter:That's kind of crazy And your guy Josh Harris

2:21:50Big Cat:Yeah you're right it was pmt stats good job pmt stats that's a fun pmt stat yeah he does get me sometimes

2:21:58PFT Commenter:he's a good dude uh but yeah this is this is kind of this is the series we have to cling on to when it comes to the nba playoffs right now it's been great tuesday night so we what's the what did they bump up the time for this game because of uh no other game hopefully so seven o 'clock there we go get excited yeah Wemby's gonna you know I mean getting also take it out of this game he's gotta he's gotta he's gonna be fresh

2:22:28Big Cat:shout out to Nas Reed for just like for taking that like a champ too

2:22:31PFT Commenter:oh yeah

2:22:32Big Cat:dogs yeah

2:22:33PFT Commenter:these Timberwolves are just dogs everyone on the Timberwolves is a dog so

2:22:37Big Cat:Jayden McDaniels is a dog

2:22:38PFT Commenter:oh my god being like oh my god

2:22:40Big Cat:the Nuggets suck at defense Jokic sucks at defense Murray sucks at defense every he just backed it up he called them all out by name yeah And then, yeah, he proved that they sucked the defense.

2:22:51PFT Commenter:Again, Anthony Edwards, the leg went backwards. The realistic timeline was for him to not play in this series. Yeah. He's played every game. He's basically like, yeah, I'll just rehab on the fly. Okay. Good show, boys. PGA Championship. Yeah. This week, Shane Bacon on Wednesday.

2:23:13Big Cat:Major. Is that in Philly? Philly. Fucking Philly. Max took his prom pictures there. It's true.

2:23:20PFT Commenter:Is it a golf town? Philly, not a basketball town. That'd be funny if there was just a bunch of bing bongs going off. By the way, I asked Jerry O 'Connell if he had a statement. He said, I said Nixon for eight days ago. I'm on to OKC was last week. Nothing to say. OK, so yeah, he called the shot. Jerry was very right. Yeah, he said it almost immediately. He's right. Mr. Bing Bong. He's right. Hey, Shane. Shane. You ready to get charged up?

2:23:57Big Cat:I'm always charged up.

2:23:58PFT Commenter:Are you ready? Are you ready? Where's it going to go? I mean, probably in the rafters. 43. I bought a 43 foot long get charged up banner.

2:24:10Big Cat:Wherever it is, I'll be there. I'm ready for the unveiling.

2:24:12PFT Commenter:Yeah, I think you got to do the unveiling.

2:24:14Big Cat:Me? Yeah. What do you mean? I can do that. That'd be the honor of a lifetime.

2:24:19PFT Commenter:There we go. Get charged up, bro. The whole office get charged up? Oh, we're all getting bolted.

2:24:24Big Cat:That's what I'm talking about.

2:24:24PFT Commenter:Every day you're going to walk in and you're going to be like, oh, shit, I forgot to get charged up. Facts. Right.

2:24:30Big Cat:Right. Bolt up. Let's go. Hell yeah. If anybody from the Washington Mystics knows where to get our hands on the WNBA attendance champion banner. I will purchase them. I would love to have. They have six of them. Maybe three. I will buy up to three of them.

2:24:45PFT Commenter:Dude, I've been trying to get those. I want the Florida State COVID one. I want the St. Joe's one. Just bad banners. Let us know. We're in the market. I want this whole office to just become basically a sports museum where everyone's like, oh, I guess that's cool. Eventually, we're going to run out of space. You're like, oh, okay. Yeah, I guess the Bills trough's cool. A lot of that reaction. Nothing to be like, oh, my God, you have that? No, no. Yeah. Oh. All right. Yeah. How much did you pay for that? A lot of that. I want that. I want the whole museum to be like that. Maybe that's the name of the museum.

2:25:23PFT Commenter:How much did you pay for that? Ooh.

2:25:25Big Cat:So also shout out to four aces. They have a championship band or live Virginia. Yes. Team win. Yes. Well, they get rid of that. Hank. I don't know if they're maybe they make double when they make one make two. Okay. All right. Yeah. And I think that the bills, I think that they had OJ Simpson's jersey retired for like 40 years.

2:25:44PFT Commenter:Take it.

2:25:44Big Cat:But then they un-retired it. But at some point, they had to have a banner saying it was retired, right? Yeah. We would take that.

2:25:51PFT Commenter:We'll take it. Okay, numbers.

2:25:54Big Cat:Four. 15. 14.

2:25:57PFT Commenter:Why did you say four? 56. 18.

2:26:00Big Cat:Double sweet. What about a statue? Can we get a statue? Yeah. Can we give it away? I actually, boys, I would 100 % buy the Joe Paz statue.

2:26:12PFT Commenter:I think it would be a great statement piece. I think hey listen I know there's controversy around it but imagine you walk in and the Joe Pustachy right there holy shit that's a fucking that you don't have to do small talk when you got the Joe Pustachy you're bam you're in the conversation you're doing the John Taffer stress test on guests instantly what do you think about that

2:26:42oh man

2:26:44PFT Commenter:All right. 77.

2:26:48PFT Commenter:How sick would that be, though? 11.

2:26:50Big Cat:We just had it. When you walk in the front door. Why? I think they're bringing it back. I don't think they're selling it. They're waiting. They're waiting. Oh, you want to see what I am trying to buy? Like another 20 years, and they're going to be like, yeah, we're going to bring this back.

2:27:04PFT Commenter:63. 63. Max, can you pull up the... It's called the Nails Tales statue. statue. It's from Madison, from Wisconsin. We had this statue up for like 10 years, and then they took it down, and it hasn't been seen. They said they were putting it somewhere else. PFT, look at this. It's a penis-shaped statue, 43 feet tall of footballs. That's all football? That's footballs, dude. Where was it for? We'll just find a place. Was it made 43 feet? It was just put in front of Camp Randall. It was there for a while. It's been taken down. Look at that. Look at all the footballs, PFT. Yeah, but why did they?

2:27:44Big Cat:I don't understand why they, one, built it in the first place. It's art, bro. It's art. But why would they take it down?

2:27:48PFT Commenter:It's supposed to be like the art of the struggle of football. I don't know why they took it down, but I'm trying to find it. Could you imagine if we had this?

2:27:55Big Cat:It looks kind of like a football butt plug.

2:27:58PFT Commenter:How sick would that be? Imagine if we had this 43 foot high. Where would this go? We could figure it out.

2:28:04Big Cat:Oh, there's one other statue I was thinking about the other day. Why? Can we try to track down the subway statue that they made of Robert Griffin out of deli meat? I don't think it exists anymore. Isn't it just deli meat? Yeah. No, look it up. Look it up. I don't know what it's actually made out of. I think it's deli meat.

2:28:21PFT Commenter:It's a subway. Yeah. Where would it be? Look at that thing. It's deli meat. Where can we get that? Does that still exist? I think we'd have to make it. I don't think it exists anymore. It's deli meat. You can't destroy that, though. PFT, it doesn't. It's either olives.

2:28:35Big Cat:You make that and it's art and I don't think anyone in good conscience could destroy that.

2:28:40PFT Commenter:You're like asking for like an ice stash. Yeah, you're asking for like, hey, does anyone got that sandwich I was eating 10 years ago? You're like, leave it. You can't put that sandwich outdoors because birds will eat it. I had a chicken parm. Where did it go? Yeah. Yeah, no, I don't think we can. I mean, maybe. Who knows? Robert, let us know. All right, one more.

2:29:01Big Cat:15.

2:29:02PFT Commenter:Same number, 77.

2:29:03Big Cat:Also a pre happy birthday Coming up On Thursday Thursday's Max Homer's birthday

2:29:10PFT Commenter:On a major Thursday

2:29:15Big Cat:Happy birthday Max In advance 81

2:29:20PFT Commenter:Anyone Also can we do a Happy birthday Because they literally were born I think two days ago Lil' One La One? You didn't see La One?

2:29:35Big Cat:No.

2:29:35PFT Commenter:Yeah. What's La One? La Melo's son. Oh, no. You named him La One. La One is his name? La One? La One? I had to look at this. Shut up. So many times thinking that I was getting sentled.

2:29:48Big Cat:Pop the Champagne. La One.

2:29:51PFT Commenter:How sick is that?

2:29:53Big Cat:La One is an incredible name. So his name is La One Ball. Yeah. That's fucking awesome. La One Ball.

2:30:04PFT Commenter:It can't be real That's no way I just stared at it I saw the NBA Central Tweeted it and I stared at the Twitter account For 10 minutes being like It's central right It's gotta be central Happy birthday to LaJuan Happy birthday Sabrina Carpenter

2:30:24Big Cat:Happy birthday to Cam Newton and Matt Leinart And Billy Bean Moneyball and also Tuesday is Steve Smith Noted and Mo Bamba and Jonah Loma may be the best rugby player ever ever to play love you guys

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