Pete Crow Armstrong, Joe Buck, Pardon My Book Is Out + Mt Rushmore Of Things Guys Keep For Too Long

12:05PFT Commenter:Yeah.

12:05Big Cat:But it made me think for a second, like, wouldn't that be sweet if he did?

12:08PFT Commenter:Yeah. It feels like conspiracy theory. Here we go. Ready? Fingers up. It feels like this thing is a very interesting timing when we're about to hit a maybe labor stoppage in MLB and everyone's like the Dodgers are ruining baseball. And oh, whoops. The guy who owns the Dodgers spending all the money now has to sell the Dodgers and you can't spend all the money anymore. Did we just fix baseball?

12:33Big Cat:Hmm. Huh. So the attorney for Lakers governor G bus says the trust vote to sell is void. Arguing legal standing that requires her to be controlling owner on a lifetime basis. her lawyer is demanding that the representatives of the trust make it clear publicly that genie is the controlling owner of the lakers and that they take no action on this vote to sell the 17.8 stake that's per sam amick so i yeah 17.8 i don't know how much that makes a difference yeah but i guess she gets to stick around and be the be genie bus she gets to continue to be genie because otherwise if she doesn't own the lakers she's no longer genie what are you yeah not genie bus you're not genie but you're a former bus yeah you're you're a retired bus you're you're

13:19PFT Commenter:like hosting podcasts now instead of driving on the road could you imagine that that's actually sick idea to do that we should do that you think genie bus can get a podcast yeah why not right why not for sure yeah um and then uh the clippers investigation i don't understand as well are they

13:36Big Cat:cleared or not cleared uh i don't know i think cleared cleared i think cleared i think cleared okay clear turns out that the nba has investigated itself and found no wrongdoing so uh they don't want to ruffle any feathers with the world's what sixth richest man yeah um i and also if they're a competent organization when it came to bribing players they would do it in a way that steve balmer actually did not know yeah about it like that's kind of an unwritten rule it's like don't

14:04PFT Commenter:bring the big man into it i uh i love steve balmer he just he does the rich guy thing correctly in terms of like he hasn't changed he's still a nerd that's probably sweating through his blue collared shirts right like he's not he's not bezos trying to get jacked and get on some gear he's not zuckerberg trying to choke some dudes out he's not bill gates flying to some unnamed islands for parties he's just balmer who's like hey i want to win so bad i might create a fake tree or uh

14:33Big Cat:company and and do it that way now if you're saying he hasn't changed i would also argue that maybe bill gates like his whole thing was i get to go spend a weekend with my ex-girlfriend yeah

14:43PFT Commenter:i don't think that was what got him in trouble though probably the epstein stuff yeah i'd say

14:48Big Cat:so at some point he was dating high school chicks and he was like i you know what all you people have changed yeah not me yeah that's true same old bill yeah i'm cool bill hanging out what's up kids so yeah i don't know i think that the laker or the clippers will not be punished i think the Lakers, it sounds like Jeannie Buss has a legal case. And if she doesn't, move on to the podcast.

15:13Big Cat:Bussin, she was the boss. Yeah. Bussin with the bus. Bussin with the bus. Would be a good name for that podcast. I like that a lot.

15:19PFT Commenter:I like that a lot.

15:19Big Cat:And I think that now this means that the Raptors are going to get Kawhi Leonard. I think. Which makes him very good. It would be funny if the NBA just blamed it all on Kawhi. Like Kawhi. He wouldn't even react. He did everything. And it turns out the Clippers did nothing. Yeah. They're completely innocent. He would just do his weird robot laugh. Kawhi started a fake treat.

15:43Big Cat:Do we have anything about LeBron? I don't think he's been in the news. I did look. I looked earlier today. You got to look.

15:53PFT Commenter:You got to look every day. You got to look every day. Let me double check. What big LeBron story is going to break when Max on his honeymoon? He almost hit a hole in one. Yeah, that's right. He did almost hit a hole in one. And I know him as a golf creator now, not a basketball player.

16:07Big Cat:So talented. So many different talents. So many different talents. There's that story about the cell phone usage thing.

16:14PFT Commenter:Yeah. We have Pete Crow Armstrong in studio, but I was at the Cubs game on Monday night. That was awesome. He's the fucking best. He had a home run to start the game first pitch and then hit a home run to end the game last pitch. It was a playoff atmosphere. There was fighting in the bleachers. that one dude ate like 75 punches just i don't i don't know i think he kind of started he kit he made he made the first kick then he just sat down in the bleachers and just ate punches that was a

16:41Big Cat:bad fight bad fight i think that guy ran out of gas because he he went up and down steps a couple times yeah before the fight started and that's like when what's his name wilder when he made that huge walk into the ring yeah and was was gas because he was wearing those big ass robes this big dude he went up and down those steps like three times yeah by the time hands started flying he was like i just did a stairmaster workout i just got i'm gonna have a seat for a

17:04PFT Commenter:while yeah but pca is i mean he's reached that level where it's like when you get to that next level of i fully expect him to do something magical you know what i mean where it's like not even a question of oh will he come through with something big here no he's gonna do it and he's gonna be sick when he does it and uh he was i mean he had a two home runs uh single and a double i know shohei hit two home runs but he was doing it in colorado he could fucking do that That's a pop. Anybody could. That's a fucking pop.

17:30Big Cat:I could hit a home run in Colorado. I could probably dunk in Colorado.

17:33PFT Commenter:Did you guys see Kyle Tucker? That guy is in the depths of hell right now. He dropped another easy fly ball. He is. I don't know what you do if you're Kyle Tucker. Like, do you see Max? What do you I mean? Like, do you sit him forever? You got to sit him for like a week or something. He's just got the yips right now. He's so far up far in his own head. I don't hate the idea of sending him down to the minors for like a week. Right. Like remind yourself that you're good. But not even triple A, single A. Let them just mash. Yeah. Send them to Little League. Send them to Williamsport. That's not a bad idea.

18:06PFT Commenter:That actually would be really funny if like that was the next. He would kill a guy. The next wave of analytics is like when a guy gets yips, they have a standing travel baseball team, 12-year-old travel baseball team at their spring training facility. They're like, all right, dude, just go down. Just fucking hit some mammoth home runs off these kids. Maybe strike a couple of them out. Make a couple of them cry. then come back and be yourself.

18:29Big Cat:That's why the Nats offense is so good this year because their pitching staff is pretty much like a Little League team. So in spring training, they just all got really confident. They're like, yeah, we can all hit. But Kyle Tucker's in hell.

18:40PFT Commenter:They also were up 10-1 in this game.

18:42Big Cat:It meant absolutely nothing.

18:43PFT Commenter:Yeah, no, of course. But baseball yips are the worst yips, right? I mean, I guess golf yips. Golf is pretty bad. Baseball and golf are kind of one and the same, though. It's just you and your own head. Yeah, but tennis tennis serving baseball. Baseball yips may be worse just because you have the teammates to be like, yeah, I think we're letting other people down. All of them are probably not saying a word, but you know they want to say something and you know that they're like, hey, dude, are you okay? Free throw yips. I would say kicker yips. Kicker yips are bad. Kicker yips are very similar to baseball.

19:19PFT Commenter:You've got the whole team and everybody could kick your ass. But kicker. The only saving grace for kicker yips is you can just get cut. They usually fire you.

19:27Big Cat:A kicker usually doesn't get to recover from, like, it's fatal.

19:30PFT Commenter:Yeah, like Kyle Tucker's. If you get the yips, you're done. Kyle Tucker signed a$240 million contract. You can't just be like, oh, dude, you're cut.

19:36Big Cat:What about this for a dumb idea? What about moving him to catcher? Just so that he thanks God when he gets moved back out to right field. Just one inning? Yeah, he's like, I'm so glad I don't have to do that anymore. I don't hate it.

19:48PFT Commenter:It's really just his hitting is so bad that his mentals are done with everything in the game. Yeah. Yeah, he can't hit with shit. No, he sucks.

19:58Big Cat:I mean, if the Dodgers win the World Series, it's like on expert mode.

20:02PFT Commenter:That is the one thing. It's actually very similar to kicker as well. Like if he hits a big home run in a playoff game, everything is forgiven. If a kicker has the yips and then hits a big kick in a playoff game, it's like, oh, shit. We always loved him.

20:14Big Cat:Yeah.

20:15PFT Commenter:But man, he is in straight up hell. Also, just an update. And it's not a knock on him, but Joshua Baez has still not gotten a hit off of anyone not named Matthew Boyd. he should have retired that's interesting oh and oh for 16 6ks he should have retired yeah he'd like go out on top dude just be the bet be the guy that everyone's like imagine if he had played his whole career he would have had a million home runs did you hear uh cj abrams

20:43Big Cat:moving to second base no i did not my my theory on that is they couldn't find anybody that wanted to trade for him oh because he's clearly a bad defensive shortstop and so but he would be like maybe not as bad second base still one of the best hitters in baseball right i think they're going to ship him don't you have a very good defensive shortstop as a prospect we've got trying to make room for we've got two so i think that we almost have too many that would probably be it that would probably make more sense but i think oh probably i think both can be very true at the same time oh shit i think the market on him was not what they expected it to be

21:19PFT Commenter:AJ Store commits to UNLV. I'm just reading the screen. That's his fifth team in five years. Villanova's quarterback got fucked. Oh, no. All right, let's do Mount Rushmore. We're doing national second baseman and Villanova quarterback and AJ Store. We've run out.

21:38Big Cat:I was looking at Dylan Riola the other day and how much he's bounced around. So he's at Oregon now. Yeah. Obviously, in college, he committed to Georgia. He might have committed to Ohio State, too. I don't count that as much as Bouncer Out if you didn't go there. Right, right. So, obviously, he has been to Nebraska. He went now to Oregon. When he was in high school, he was, I think, like four schools in four years kind of guy. AJ Store, I'm pretty sure, is on like eight schools in nine years. This is like the most meathead take that I might have. And it's a little bit draft day, birthday party thing.

22:14but at some point if you're a quarterback you should not want to transfer schools again just

22:19Big Cat:based on the fact that you've got boys yeah like that you have friends that you don't want to leave and you don't want to make new friends somewhere else the fact that he he's moved school so many times there is something that's like why is it why doesn't he have friends i think the third school is a red flag yeah so he's got one more no no he doesn't have one more yeah the third school is a Like imagine your boys from college. Yeah. Imagine if you just one year you were like, hey, you know what? I'm going to change a pace. Yeah. I'm going to go somewhere else. Now imagine doing that three times.

22:49Big Cat:Yeah. It's because you don't have boys.

22:51PFT Commenter:And also it's like what is the move you're making? Is it a lateral move? Like a lateral move is also kind of a red flag. But if you're moving up, if you're going from Mac to Big Ten or if you're going from Mountain West, so it's not Mountain West anymore, up to SEC, that's a different move. so yeah I agree with that take that's a good meatball take that it actually has I think some merit

23:15Big Cat:it can happen once to anybody maybe twice but at some point if you've already done it twice you should be like I don't want to have to make new friends again

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26:41Big Cat:i might be one point up yeah oh no i believe it's tied is it tied let's see is it tied Shane Fuckus

26:52Big Cat:I'm seeing I have 40 You guys I also see that Hank and Zach have 39 Okay That does kind of Put a wrinkle in

27:01PFT Commenter:Alright no no I think this is fine So our idea is that We now go shift to a 1v1v1 Zach Hank PFT I think we should start PFT is up one point That's fair Okay He has one point, and you guys have zero points.

27:18Big Cat:Yeah, that's fine. That's totally fair. You should get that point. I was prepared to compete to go down solo against the two of you, but that's fine. Yeah. Well, I think it's broken up. Yeah. Yeah.

27:28PFT Commenter:And so how we're going to do the rest of the Mount Rushmore season, the last eight, is that you guys are going to all go 1v1v1. Well, obviously, Max Beams and I will still discuss picks and talk about it when you guys make picks. And then at the end of the picks, Max Beams and I will submit the honorable mention list. so um that's how we're gonna go i like it's a new new juice new new new something going on here zach are you a little scared to go on your own 1v1v1 pft i like you stand on it against these guys i like i love your guys chances as well i take every competition seriously i take things

28:02Big Cat:day by day really pick by pick i'm a process guy so uh you know we're just here to be the

28:07PFT Commenter:best team that we can be all right so today is the mount rushmore of things guys hold on to for too long, correct? Yep. Okay. Who wants to go for it? You know what? We'll do... I have a number behind my back. Zach, do you want to guess it? I'll pass on the guess. Okay. It's one through three. Five. It's one through three. Three. This is insane what's going on right now. Zach, you got it right. It was three. Okay. What pick would you like to start with this draft? This draft, I would like to take the first pick. Okay, so then let's go Zach first, Hank second, PFT third and fourth, and then we'll shift it from there.

28:50PFT Commenter:Okay? Okay. We feel good about that? Sure. All right. I don't think there's a clear 1-1 in this. No. But I would like to... Oh, yeah, let's go. Things that guys hold on to for too long. Things guys hold on to too long, I would like to take Boxers one. Had it on our list. Great pick. Excellent pick. Great pick. I recently shot a fruit of the loom. I just got rid of all my boxers and just restocked. It's a great feeling. And it is a great feeling. So I have the next pick. You do. It's similar, especially when you lose one. I think that if I was going to write a biography, the title of the book would just be where do all the socks go.

29:34PFT Commenter:I'm taking socks.

29:36Big Cat:Who would the biography be about?

29:39PFT Commenter:Just whatever. Where All the Socks Go? About socks. But what would be the first page? What would you write in it? That would just be the general title. Is this a children's book? No, it's just like an autobiography. Where All the Socks Go? Oh, that's actually a good children's book. Where All the Socks Go? It's a haiku. Under the lamp? Yeah. No. In the oven? No. The dog has them. In the drawer? No, that's mommy's dildo. But every time I lose a sock, that doesn't mean I get rid of the one that I have left. I put it in a drawer, and then when I go to put on socks, I just have a mountain of single socks.

30:12And then I spend an entire 10, 20 minutes trying to find the matching sock,

30:17PFT Commenter:which is a lot.

30:19Big Cat:The sock companies know that, which is why they always do, even if you have a pair of socks, like your favorite design, they'll just make a new one that's slightly different.

30:27PFT Commenter:Hank, you've got to do the total sock overhaul. I've talked about this before. Yeah, I do. I did it with the Fruit of the Loom. I've got to do it with socks. Every couple of years, I just throw out every single one of my socks, and then I get like 30 pair, and they're all the same brand, and they're all the same thing. That way you can't lose one. I still will, but. No, you can't. You can't. Where do they go? What are you talking about? You have all the same. Yeah, but when you do laundry, you end up with singles, and then you're. You just throw the single out. Right. That's what I don't do. I keep them too long.

30:59PFT Commenter:Okay.

30:59Big Cat:All right. That's a good pick. Because you think wide open. You think one day they'll come back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got a wide open drive. Those were my, I had those kind of like one, two. So I think we're going chalk so far. I'm going to go hairstyle. Oh. Guys keep the hairstyle. They don't change it up enough. Just kind of through inertia. It's like, I've always looked like this. So I guess I'll look like that tomorrow.

31:20PFT Commenter:Memes, why are you smiling? I didn't think that's where it was going to go.

31:28Big Cat:Okay. Okay. Say more memes. No, that's it. That's all I'm saying. Okay. I'm going to go shoes. Hmm. I like that. Shoes is great. They get ratty.

31:38PFT Commenter:We had that on there.

31:39Big Cat:And then your worst pair of shoes, guess what? You don't throw those out either. They just turn into lawn mowing shoes.

31:44PFT Commenter:Yeah.

31:45Big Cat:Yeah.

31:47PFT Commenter:I will take wallet. Oh, man. The only time I've ever replaced a wallet is when I've lost it.

31:55Big Cat:I want you guys to hear something. This is actually good for the podcast. This is the sound of my wallet.

32:01PFT Commenter:That's Velcro. Velcro, baby. PFT has a middle schooler's wallet. Oh, yeah.

32:06Big Cat:It's also got a...

32:07PFT Commenter:Middle school skater's wallet.

32:08Big Cat:It's got a place for a chain on it, too. My favorite thing is to go out to a fancy dinner, and then when the bill comes, it's like a black tie place. I take out my wallet, and I go. And the waiter tries not to laugh.

32:17PFT Commenter:PFT, check out my wallet. I just got a new wallet.

32:19Big Cat:That's a lot of cash.

32:20PFT Commenter:Yeah, it is a lot of cash. Check out my new wallet.

32:23Big Cat:Yeah.

32:24PFT Commenter:Do you like it? I'd say, like... Do you see that? I can see... Do you see the new wallet?

32:28Big Cat:There's tape on there. Yeah.

32:29PFT Commenter:I just got a new wallet. The side of my wallet was broken for about three months. So once a week, I would just have a complete explosion of my wallet. I would go to grab something and every single thing would fall out. I got a new wallet. And by got a new wallet, I got some electrical tape and I just taped the side of it. So this bad boy is not going anywhere. Anywhere. Good pick. Thank you. Great pick. You just can't get a new wallet. like it's just it's it's it doesn't fit the same it's like it just the whole thing is just feels weird this wall has been pretty good to me yeah decent amount of money is passing this let me see your wallet again just one second sir oh yeah that's the same one that you lost a wallet and then you got that is a that's the same one my son has yeah it's cool it's actually it's an

33:20Big Cat:upscale version of that because this one's got like rfid blocking it's actually like an expensive middle school wallet. Oh, nice. What, Max? Didn't you lose a wallet and then you got that like on a whim? I lost a wallet at the Q at Quicken Loans Arena. Yep. Before the Cavaliers playoff run. Very famous one. Yeah, famous wallet. It brought them a championship. It was like that number one, then LeBron. Actually, what? Did you talk about that in part of my book? I might have. You lost that one in 2017. Max, you should hope to God that I lose my wallet inside whatever the Clippers arena is called.

33:58Big Cat:Or the Sixers arena is called.

34:00PFT Commenter:They didn't win a championship after you lost. No, they didn't.

34:04Big Cat:You sure? I'm pretty sure it's 2017. Okay, I thought it was 2016.

34:09PFT Commenter:It wasn't. That was the game that we went to that Kyrie was like the best player of all time. Yeah. Remember that? Machine Gun Kelly. Machine Gun Kelly. Before we had halftime. Yeah. MGK. Yeah. Isaiah Thomas Celtics.

34:20Big Cat:Was that not Grit Week 1?

34:21PFT Commenter:Nope.

34:22Big Cat:All right.

34:25PFT Commenter:Let me see. I'm going to look it up. I know. I know. Well, yeah. I mean, it was against the Celtics, so I would hope you know. I think you do know. But, yeah, I just remember Kyrie was like everything. I think it was the J.R. Smith timeout year. Oh, yeah. Cleveland, Boston 2017 conference finals. Bloodbath. You were lucky to get there. Rajon Rondo broke his hand in the first round against the Bulls. He's up 2-0. People forget. People forget. All right, Zach, you have two picks. I would like to take the second pick, pillows. Okay. And then third, I would like to take... Was the official name things or items?

35:04PFT Commenter:Items. No, it's things. It's items. Oh, well, things. No, it'd be things. You can do whatever you want. Okay. Okay. Third, I would like to take leftovers. Okay. Yep. Yeah. Good pick. Good pick. Very good pick. Way too long. look at our fridge right now i think we have queso in there from six weeks ago jerky from like a month ago oh yeah i'm gonna eat that i was gonna take something similar i think it's it's still different enough uh just healthy food items like you buy healthy food and then you never consume the healthy food and then it just stays in your fridge forever and there's a yeah okay

35:53Big Cat:That kind of counts as working out when you buy a piece of lettuce, like a bag of spinach. Yeah, leftovers. But that's... I think that's... But Hank's is like... Give us an example. They can't be leftovers because they were never started. Strawberries. Yeah. Okay.

36:06PFT Commenter:Yeah. Like how many times... I liked it. That's our healthy fruit.

36:10Big Cat:Yeah.

36:10PFT Commenter:No, strawberries are healthy. It's a sweet... I mean, sort of. Strawberries, blueberries. That's the pinnacle of health we do is just like fruit. Milk. Fruit's healthy. Milk. Yeah. like peppers and onions. Like you go to the store, avocados. You're like, all right, I'm going to eat healthy this week. And then two weeks later, you open the fridge and you're like, oh, shit, these strawberries. This is just a giant thing of mold. When we were doing our list, I mean, eggs. I keep eggs. I'll pull out eggs and it will be like, these were two months ago. I eat eggs. I actually run through eggs. I promise I buy too many eggs.

36:48PFT Commenter:Do you get the 16 pack? I get two 12 packs. Oh, that's too many eggs. And then I'm just like, I'm egged out. Do your kids eat eggs? Yeah, they eat eggs. But not like, we go in spurts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You miss time of spurting, then you just got eggs. All right, Pitty, you have two picks. Okay, I'm going to go with towels. Okay, we had it on our list.

37:10Big Cat:They get janky, they get holes in them.

37:12PFT Commenter:Yep. They get gross, funky. The towels that are ripped and have like a weird stain. It's like, how did you get a weird stain on a towel? That's supposed to be the cleanest thing. And you're just like, I don't know.

37:24Big Cat:It always blows my mind. There's no bigger difference in the world than going to like a sophomore in college dude's apartment and a sophomore in college chick's apartment. Yep. It's like they're two different species entirely.

37:35PFT Commenter:Correct.

37:35Big Cat:They have fresh towels. They change them. They wash them like once a week. Change their sheets. I've got like a beach towel that's been hanging like that's been doubling as a shower curtain for the last week. Hanging over my bathtub. Like it is just completely different species. We should do a YouTube series of just going into different college dudes' apartments. With a blacklight? Yeah. No. We don't need to see that. That's a good idea. Room Raiders. Just a documentary on dudes' apartments. Yeah. It's a good idea. Yeah. You know, I don't have to say anything.

38:05PFT Commenter:I think there's something to be said to the older towels absorbing water better. Go on. Feels like there's a break-in period with towels. The older ones do a better job drying up.

38:13Big Cat:Wait, are you saying that because the longer you have a towel, the more likely it is that's already a little bit wet when you use it? And so you're like, wow, this towel absorbed a lot of wetness because it's got like four showers worth on it?

38:25PFT Commenter:Not so much in repetition between washes, more so in like years of having the towel. Yeah. You know what's an all-time dudes moment that I'm sure everyone has had happen? It happens to be probably once or twice a month just getting in the shower and not looking to see if there's a towel and then getting out and being like, well, what now? That's every single time I take a shower. And then I'm just like, all right, I guess I'm just going to use my shirt.

38:49Big Cat:I got to find my towel, and it's in a weird spot that I've literally never put a towel before. I'll use the little washcloth that is this big and just try to get as much as I can.

38:59PFT Commenter:I'll just walk and just soak the entire hallway to the washer and dryer. I do that as well, and I can yell that.

39:04Big Cat:The other day, I was looking for the towel, and I went into my closet, and it was hanging up on a coat hanger in my closet. because I went there after the shower, put on a t-shirt, had to get hanger in my hand, and then replaced where the t-shirt was with the towel and hung that up for some reason I can't begin to explain. Yeah. It sounds like something, I'd normally just throw it on the ground. Yeah, the ground is like, yeah, nine times out of ten. Do you have another pick? I do. Yeah. I'm going to go with girlfriends. Okay. Dudes keep the same girlfriends for too long. It's past the point. All your friends tell you, hey man, we've all been talking and she sucks.

39:41Big Cat:Yeah, but I already know her and her family. No, no one proactively does it.

39:47PFT Commenter:It's usually like they break up. You're like, oh my God, thank God she sucks. And then they get back together.

39:52Big Cat:Right. But you do keep them for too long.

39:54PFT Commenter:Yeah.

39:55Big Cat:Yeah.

39:56PFT Commenter:But I feel like the people just talk shit behind your back and never actually say.

40:01Big Cat:Right.

40:02PFT Commenter:Like it has to be real bad.

40:04Big Cat:Real bad. But it'd be, yeah, you just think, ah, it'd be too much work to go back out there right now. I guess we hate each other, but maybe we won't.

40:14PFT Commenter:I don't think this has been taken. Maybe it has. It's definitely the one that makes me feel the most like a hoarder because I just cannot get rid of them. But I have way too many of them. Hats.

40:29Big Cat:Yep. Right on the list. I just realized. Yeah. No, there's a 1-1 pick that we would have taken. There's a massive permission to go back and change. No.

40:39PFT Commenter:Permission denied.

40:41Big Cat:This is like. Would you like to appeal? Can I appeal it, please? Yes, you can appeal.

40:44PFT Commenter:Appeal denied.

40:46Big Cat:But wait, no, I wasn't appealing to you.

40:47PFT Commenter:Oh, okay.

40:48Big Cat:You granted my appeal for the appeal. Yeah, so Max. Now I'm appealing to Max. Max, I'd like to formally follow through with the appeal. Hold on.

40:55PFT Commenter:Let me talk to my counsel real quick.

40:57Big Cat:Yeah. He's appealing. It looks like it might be. The draft isn't over either. It looks like it might be a yes.

41:03PFT Commenter:Appeal denied.

41:06Big Cat:There's like a 1-1 out there I can't believe you guys haven't taken it

41:09PFT Commenter:We're going to do our picks We'll do our picks Our team's picks Maybe we just have a column that says Honorable mentions on the graphic I'm going to take T-shirts that don't fit right now but could fit later That's it Well not t-shirts that can't fit right now Do you want that on the graphic or do you want t-shirts I just take t-shirts on the graphic T-shirts are such a I have so many t-shirts that I just cannot get rid of that are just so stupid to have. It's brutal. There will come a day where you need it.

41:42Big Cat:All right. Here's our - I'm sorry. I just got a text from - I'm just going to read this. Bleep this whole thing out, by the way. Okay. But I'm going to say it to you. I just got a text from Mincy. Hearing - Pretty wild.

41:57PFT Commenter:That is pretty wild.

41:59Big Cat:You're going to have to bleep that out.

42:00PFT Commenter:Yeah. It's a good bleep. It's completely. All right. Keep the mincy part.

42:04Big Cat:All right. Let's do our four picks for the honorable mention. Can I say the one that. Well, it might be one of our picks. But it just dawned on me like this is a big time fuck up. Toothbrush. Well, we had toothpaste on our list. We had toothpaste. Toothpaste is one, but toothbrush is like. Yeah, that's a good one too. Sneakers. All right. You said sneakers.

42:23PFT Commenter:Do you want to do our four picks? Honorable mentions? I think. But you can't vote on these. No, no. We won't keep it on. We won't put it on the vote. So say something you want. I like 21. Yeah, your dreams. We hold on to our dreams for way too long. Oh, we could go pro. We could do this. We could do that. I could fucking run an under six-minute mile. I could bench this. No, you can't, dude. You don't. Your dreams. Similar to dreams. Or no. It's items. Yeah, items. Dreams. Cups and mugs. You get a free cup from a bar. I actually disagree those are the best cups no but there's some that are just like so dead I have a cup from a bar that hasn't existed for 10 years that's an awesome cup you don't even know what's on it it doesn't have a logo yeah but that's an awesome cup

43:12Big Cat:but you look at it and you're like real ones now yeah like I had I had the dream team cups from McDonald's probably for 12 years when I was growing up

43:20PFT Commenter:fuck that one I was like 15 that used to be Chris Mullen alright alright so dreams cell phones cell phones and electronics Cell phones slash computers. You just can't throw them out. I don't know why. It's stupid. Getting a new phone. There's something about having like an old phone where the battery sucks and it's like a little bit cracked that you still don't want to get a new one. You just hold on to that shitty one. You're probably doing it right now. I'm going through it right now.

43:46Big Cat:It won't charge. But you don't want to get a new one. I've reached the point where it's such a problem where now I have to put a magnetic battery pack on the back of it and then plug that battery pack into a charger overnight so that the charger is then filtered from the battery pack into my phone because there was one time in Pawtucket with Pop Punk. I had it plugged in overnight, didn't charge at all, and it was on 1 % battery when I woke up for a flight. So I've got like a daisy chain of charge, and you're right. I'm not going to get rid of it until it absolutely must go.

44:18PFT Commenter:We won't even put on. Let's just say all of our own. It's easier to just do that. Baseball cards that are truly worthless, You know, like the not like good ones, but like you just have cards that are birthday cards. I never throw out birthday cards and I just hold on to them forever. We had sheets on there. I said iPhone boxes. iPhone boxes. It's a good box. I throw those away immediately. Oh, I keep those forever. In your junk drawer, you just have cords. I just have cords. I have no idea what they go to. Various charger cables. They're just none of them work for anything that you need. Chargers are always banged up.

44:57PFT Commenter:trophies we had on there, but sometimes you want to keep a trophy, but there are some that are ridiculous. Meme said grudges. Yeah. No, I said grudges. Oh, you said. I said friends. Friends. Guys hold on to friends too long. Yeah. Dreams. Something that's just broken, like any item that's just broken. You just have it. We had toothpaste. Your feelings. Their feelings. Your feelings. And then my last pick was things that you hold on to for too long. Ole Miss employees. yeah just in general yeah yeah in general that's a good one it's very relatable to i think everyone except uh sometimes they send you a banger text yeah um that was a good my rush one i i also had

45:37Big Cat:cars yeah on my list i had uh mattresses i had um then shampoo bottles yeah like they've been done

45:46PFT Commenter:all the way to the end you put some water in it and you try and shake it up to see if you you can get the last and i do that like five times and then yeah like the third time you're like maybe

45:55Big Cat:i didn't fill it up and shake it hard enough the first couple times i'm sure there'll be some suds that come oh but when the suds do come out you feel like you're a scientist oh yeah like i figured it out i've discovered hacked it unlimited energy what else any other honorable mentions you guys

46:08PFT Commenter:had mail yeah yeah a lot of mail intramural shirts yep game ticket stubs yeah i like i think every guy like everyone knows a friend receipts who actually has kept every single game ticket stub and you're like that's awesome and then every guy everyone else is like i want to be that guy and i think i have if i open up like my nightstand i think i have like three ticket stubs it's like i was gonna be that guy once i i remember when i was a kid i had a shoebox that said stubs on and i think i had like two stubs yeah right you just can't because yeah you just either are that you I have a friend who has hundreds of ticket stubs, and you're like, that's fucking cool.

46:51PFT Commenter:And then at one point, you're like, I'm going to do that. And you aren't. You aren't that guy. Ticket stubs also just don't exist anymore. Yeah, that's true.

46:57Big Cat:I think you were just making that box so you could keep your barbecue sauce in there. I want to remember it by.

47:03PFT Commenter:Oh, yep.

47:03Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah, I think we hit the big ones. I do think that toothbrush is a big mess, though.

47:10PFT Commenter:Yeah. I keep toothpaste more. I buy toothbrushes in bulk And I'll just swap them out I'll buy the 10 pack of them I try it, yeah But toothpaste I will squeeze till There is nothing left Nothing left, and then I'll cut it open Why? You can cut it open? There's a whole new tube when you cut it open You can cut it open, dude Absolutely you can cut it open Alright, good Mount Rushmore Let's do Hot Seat Cool Throw And then we'll get to Pete Crow Armstrong And Joe Buck hot seat cool throne is brought to you by our friends at body armor this episode is brought to you by body armor flash iv flash iv is packed with electrolytes delivering faster longer lasting hydration without any artificial dyes flavors or sweeteners whether you're training traveling just feeling the heat or cheering on your team work hard and hydrate hard with body armor flash iv grab it at 7 11 you need the body armor flash iv after a long weekend whether it be hanging out with your friends or training really hard, you need the Body Armor Flash IV.

48:13PFT Commenter:It'll make you feel a lot better. Drink one, grab it at 7-Eleven today. They have some great flavors. Body Armor Flash IV. Henry, hot seat, cool throne. My hot seat is Zach, Memes, and Max. Okay. Billy Football, our sweet prince, went on Jake Marsh's podcast. They're promoting the book, reminiscing on old stories. And Billy brought up a good point, I thought, about how the league today, today's day and age, is soft and that Zach and Memes and Max don't get hazed enough.

48:46Big Cat:Yeah, no, the leagues change. Societies change.

48:49PFT Commenter:He specifically said Zach. I mean...

48:51Big Cat:But also, Billy was podcasting against, like, plumbers. Plumbers and whores. That's who dominated the podcasting charts when Billy was around. But, yeah, Zach, do you think that we've been soft on you? Memes and I were both here with Billy. Now, some people worked on the show together. Okay.

49:07PFT Commenter:I will say this. Billy. Billy probably has a fair gripe that we were maybe a little hard on. Billy also didn't maybe didn't always say like, hey, I fucked up. Zach says I fucked up a lot. So that might be a little difference. But Billy has a it was probably harder on Billy to start. Jake using his one example is they made me do dip. It's like, wasn't that a bet? Was very funny. And he didn't even do dip. Yeah.

49:32Big Cat:It did have nicotine. I think, right? I think Billy has a fair argument.

49:35PFT Commenter:I don't know if Jake has a fair argument.

49:37Big Cat:The other one Jake gave was doing the fake boobs. Yeah.

49:40PFT Commenter:Yeah.

49:40Big Cat:Which, yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Billy having to fight Jose Canseco. Yeah.

49:45PFT Commenter:Eat a cheesesteak. But Billy, I also, I bet you. It was a spicy cheesesteak.

49:48Big Cat:It was really spicy.

49:49PFT Commenter:I would bet you that if Billy would say himself, he's a tough, he's like a hard coaching guy. You need to coach him hard. He's not a soft coaching guy. But yeah, I see it. We're going to have to be a little harder on Zach. Well, I also, Billy said in the example, Zach had to do that bike thing. And I was like, what was he talking about? He's like, oh, Travis Pastrana, when you had to take a bike off a ramp and almost die. That's true. Yeah. By far the most dangerous thing. And, I mean, to give Zach credit, I did buy an ice cream machine that he had no idea about. And I said, you have to keep this existing.

50:24PFT Commenter:That wasn't super easy. Billy did that with the goldfish. Goldfish died. That's right. Yeah. By the way, our Larry chapter was, I wrote the Larry chapter, and I went back and found the actual statistics. It's incredible. He was the greatest man of all time. Magical fish. It's actually insane how good of a goldfish he was.

50:42Big Cat:Billy also said he's completely disconnected from the internet now. That's good. Which is great. Yeah.

50:48PFT Commenter:Happy for Billy.

50:48Big Cat:Yeah. Do you think it's true? No.

50:51PFT Commenter:I think disconnected a lot more than he was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good for him. I hope he's happy. Yeah. We love those guys. They both wrote chapters. so uh you know those guys are family for life like i truly do mean that they are part of this show you can't like you can't write this book without having them write in so they did jake wrote a

51:10Big Cat:very good chapter very interesting chapter billy the way that he like signs off on his chapter is just it if you are a billy football fan you will love that it's incredible okay so we got to be

51:21PFT Commenter:tougher on zach and memes according to billy yeah memes we're gonna give you some tough love Fair Memes would have lasted a day In the billion You would get your shit pushed in buddy Memes all day He's just been looking at me He's like dude we got soft This ruined my entire day

51:42Big Cat:Should we butt fuck memes I mean memes you do Let's just butt fuck them

51:48PFT Commenter:Be like dude it's fine We gotta get hard

51:52Big Cat:Who can you fight We need to make you fight somebody what if we do anything but fight yeah but fuck yeah but fight okay we can call it whatever you

52:01PFT Commenter:want you'll butt fight somebody i'm open to anything uh yeah i know literally imagine if we just butt fucked memes and sent it to billy being like this is for you billy oh this guy's fighting me so hard this guy's so this guy's so soft oh round one shit this guy goes to the guy

52:19Big Cat:I butt fucking the other day.

52:21PFT Commenter:Okay. Then my cool throne is music. Yeah. Pat McAfee put out an album. It's been the talk of the town the last few days. Talk of the ton. And then former co-worker Dan Rappaport put out a Scotty Scheffler song. Have you guys heard this? No. No, I have not. I'll play it. I mean, have Max play it. Have Max play it. This is kind of where I'm like, hey, Billy's got it right. We're just here. Less internet. Are we allowed to play it? Yeah. Who's Twitter?

52:54Big Cat:Chuck Neso. He quote tweeted. Is it good? I don't know. It's a banger.

53:00PFT Commenter:I think we can. Oh, this is it? Oh, this has got to be it. Oh, it's only like 20 seconds. I don't think that. We'll see. Guess who's back? Back again. Scotty's back. Sung J.M. I created a monster because nobody wants to see Bennett no more. They want young Remy. He's chopped liver. Well, if you want Remy, this is what I'll give you. A 68 on Thursday, but a 6-1 is sicker. So the L.I.V. won't let me be. Paying Jon Rahm way more than me. Fitsy jumped me down at RBC. But it feels so empty without me. Now this looks like a TPC. So everybody just lose to me. Because I'm back and I want the trophy. Because it feels so empty without me.

53:38PFT Commenter:That's why the internet was invented. I'm also going to say something in defense of Dan Rapport. He knows he's a dork. I don't know. No, he does. He knows he's a dork.

53:49Big Cat:Even dorks can make great music.

53:50PFT Commenter:I like that about him. I think if you're like, dude, are you a dork about golf? He's like, yeah, I am. Remember when the Tiger thing happened? We had him on the yak after, and he's like, yeah, that was a little ridiculous. I was crying about Tiger. He knows. And I'm okay with self-aware dorks. So you think that was parody? I think he was. No, I think he knows this is ridiculous, but I'm putting it out because I just love Scotty. Or like this is a banger. No, I don't think he thinks it's a banger. I think he's like, I'm a dork and I love Scotty. Watch me drop some bars.

54:22Big Cat:Yeah. Honestly, it was better than I thought it was going to be. It had a little flow. You know what? We don't haze enough on this show. No. I would like to see memes make a song. Yeah. Memes. Make a fucking song. Memes. You have to make a song. Because you guys asked, I will do it.

54:37PFT Commenter:All right. Toughen up. Make a song about Gino. Toughen up, shithead. Make a song about Gino. Any Gino? No. Gino Smith and the Jets. Gino Smith. And make sure to mention.

54:46Big Cat:Gino and the Jets. Seven Sunday heroes. It's charity.

54:49PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right. Good hot seat. It's your own, Hank. Thank you. Way to go. All right. PFT.

54:54Big Cat:My hot seat is our fantasy league. Oh, yeah. And I alluded to this in text message to the boys last night. I have some deep concerns about the future of our fantasy league and how Jerry O 'Connell is approaching this season. Because I'm sure the draft has to be like any week now, right?

55:11PFT Commenter:Mm-hmm.

55:11Big Cat:It's kind of how the pattern goes. Yeah.

55:14PFT Commenter:We're right around it. Yeah.

55:15Big Cat:so jerry as i mentioned in the past has been extremely active in this fantasy chat um it just got brought up last week maybe we increase the buy-in this year okay and i'm like i'm fine with that whatever jerry's wife will allow him to do let's do that yep and then cj mccollum clowned on him a little bit like oh no jerry like kind of making fun of him um but i was like no jerry like it's up to him if you guys want to double the stakes triple the like whatever jerry wants it's all good then everybody started texting each other last night everyone's i'm sure everyone's got a fancy league out there and once that group check gets going it gets out of control it's crazy and you'll come back to like 60 missed text messages from that group correct that's what it was like last night so i popped in and somebody suggested jordan schultz posted let's set a draft date and confirm buy-in what does everyone feel good with we can proceed and i said jerry question mark and then i believe julius randall responded jerry left the chat oh no exclamation point i went back and i looked at it jerry left this chat i'm trying to find the exact date that he bounced out jerry left this chat a couple weeks ago i believe okay it looks like it had to i tried to add jerry last night back to the chat but since jerry is a green dot guy yeah it would completely ruin the chat.

56:40Big Cat:Yeah. We'd have to rename the chat. Dark web shit. It'd be a brand new chat for everybody. Correct. And now I feel like Jerry's gone dark on us. Like he left. Wait so who said to raise the stakes?

56:50PFT Commenter:I forget who originally suggested it. Did Jerry leave because the stakes were raised? I think we should call him.

56:57Big Cat:Yeah I think we should call him. Call him. It might have been Jordan Schultz that recommended we raise this. Which is very funny considering who his father is. Do you think we could probably do an extra

57:06PFT Commenter:like$2 ,000. No, there's like nobody here is really fighting for it, right? Hypothetical question, and this is not against anyone. Do we think that Adam Schefter has ever balked at someone saying, let's raise the stakes?

57:24Big Cat:Probably, yeah.

57:25PFT Commenter:You think so? Okay, all right. Fair answer.

57:29Big Cat:I don't know. I don't think he's got money like that. I don't think he would ever be in. He's got his bag up. I don't think he'd ever be in a group that would suggest raising the stakes. He's got his bag up, though. We can't even get a hold of our fantasy manager.

57:44PFT Commenter:What do you think he's doing right now, Hank?

57:46Big Cat:Probably retweeting compliments about himself writing the book.

57:48PFT Commenter:What do you think he's doing, Hank? Probably, like, showering in the bathroom of a gym somewhere. Okay. Like in the sink. What else? What else? Give us the other what is Jerry doing right now? He's probably waiting to pick up his daughter from school. Okay. Auditioning for a role. Maybe getting some dinner for the family.

58:14Big Cat:Well, actually, Hank. No, because it's... You know where Jerry is. Bring him in. No, just fuck with you, Hank. He's not here.

58:24PFT Commenter:Did you believe that he was here, Hank? No. No. All right. Well, we got to finish. All right. Well, next week we're at camp. Jerry's with us. So we'll get to the bottom of it.

58:34Big Cat:But I feel like I'm right to be concerned about this. Definitely. 100%. Who leaves the fantasy football group chat unless they have no desire or intention of returning? Yeah. That is I quit. Is that not an I quit move? I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. It's just the green.

58:49PFT Commenter:It's got to be someone with an iPhone update or his phone. We might have to buy him a fantasy football phone. You have a fantasy phone. That's what I was going to say. Yep, you're right. He needs a separate phone just for fantasy. Yep.

59:00Big Cat:It should be one of the - It should be a fantasy phone. It should be one of the ones with the text buttons on it, the ones that Jeff D. Lowe's reviewing. Nope, because that would still be green. Yep. True.

59:10PFT Commenter:100%.

59:11Big Cat:True, you're right. 100%. We got to - We should - I will buy Jerry - I'll buy Jerry a new phone before I get myself a new phone.

59:18PFT Commenter:Yeah.

59:18Big Cat:That's how seriously I'm - Because it sounds like he just walked away from the sport that he loves. Yeah. And it's, quite frankly, not something that you would expect a fantasy to be doing.

59:27PFT Commenter:Fantasy.

59:29Big Cat:And then my cool throw-in, it was going to be the Chargers. Chargers being Chargers. But it's also the weird relationship between players that used to play for Harbaugh then going directly to another Harbaugh. Because Najee Harris is now a giant.

59:43PFT Commenter:Yes.

59:43Big Cat:And I need somebody to make a list of all the players that they've shared. Because it does feel like a fallback career. if you leave a job with one hardball you can immediately guess what you've got a home with the other on the opposite coast

59:59PFT Commenter:alright my hot seat is Penn State students that like cocaine because apparently there was two fraternities running like a narcos episode that got busted up what Max? that was crazy that story, you don't think so? the only thing I saw is that the guys were doing drugs in college Yeah, no, but I was going to do a Max impression. News flash. Frats are doing coke. Yeah, but no, the part that was crazy was the alleged is all alleged that they were making pledges like like cut up bricks as part of their initiation. You get free labor. That's crazy. Yeah, come on. I agree doing drugs college. Who the fuck cares?

1:00:43PFT Commenter:They were getting bricks and having like being like, you want to be in this frat? make some fucking bags for who told him somebody that didn't get in probably no there was an undercover buyer who bought from one of the kids and then I think that kid ratted can't do that bro yeah you can't do that broke the code it's quite a it's uh I would say it's the most significant the kids look hilarious that's the thing they basically a bunch of Cody's got arrested for being Pablo Escobar. I think one of their dads was helping to run it. Yeah, I was trying to hide it. I think he was trying to hide the shit after they were about to get busted.

1:01:24Big Cat:Oh, so it wasn't the dad that was getting it and then sending it to the kids?

1:01:27PFT Commenter:I read it very quickly. I think it was like a dad was basically trying to obstruct justice and hide all the evidence.

1:01:34Big Cat:Just a good dad.

1:01:35PFT Commenter:Yeah. But yeah. The kids look so young and they were just on their Pablo Escobar shit. So yeah, it's going to be I guess there's a there's a power vacuum at Penn State now. So, yeah. Who's going to have that?

1:01:52Big Cat:If you're interested, there's a market. The whiteout. Yeah.

1:01:56PFT Commenter:Also, hot seat is I'm scared to give any updates about Liv because Hank and Max will be mad about it, but Jon Rahm feels like he's leaving. My cool throne. And also, it's going to be the last tournament coming out. And it's going to be the last tournament. And are you going to go? I think so.

1:02:11Big Cat:I was telling Hank. Fuck yes. If Hank wears his four aces gear, there's a good chance that they actually let him play.

1:02:18PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:02:18Big Cat:By the last. You might be the fourth ace.

1:02:20PFT Commenter:You should show up. They're going to need guys.

1:02:22Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. Liv is like a softball team, and your record is like one and seven, and you need guys just to finish out the schedule. Yeah. That's what they're like. Hey, do you have any buddies that maybe played in college that could show up? Hank, you can do this.

1:02:38PFT Commenter:Mm-hmm. And then my cool throw on his hosses because we have Matt Tugboat Wilkinson getting called up by the Giants. 270 pound lefty Haas So excited We need more Haases Dying breed This guy is an absolute Haas This guy is a giant I fucking love it Tugboat is just an awesome nickname Awesome We don't get nicknames like that anymore For a big dude

1:03:05Big Cat:That's a 1920s ass nickname That's so good Gentleman Tugger

1:03:12PFT Commenter:Zach

1:03:14Big Cat:My hot seat this week We talked about We talked Ben Steyer

1:03:16PFT Commenter:We talked Shane We talked The guys who fight Yep my hot seat this week Is going to be The rest of the NFL Because did you guys see That Ruben Bain Is absolutely putting in At least an extra hour Every practice this week So what Get his arms longer

1:03:29Big Cat:No they're saying Short arms Actually with the Aerodynamics and the wind Probably a Plus side I don't know if you guys Saw that science on dudes I did not Wait go back Science on dudes Get through the wind quicker If you weigh less Longer arms heavier Aerodynamics mix but they also like they weigh them too so you need some weight that is correct definitely have some weight but if you see the explosion off the line here how many sacks do you think a t-rex will get probably a lot to you a t-rex on a male nfl field yeah all the sacks wait what

1:03:58PFT Commenter:about a female female no female dinosaur i don't think a t-rex would get all the sacks we're also just like against other dinosaurs you're saying it's been a really long day we're gonna get into dinosaurs playing sports with P. Croix Armstrong. Deep into dinosaurs. Yeah, so we should save that. But yeah, I think you could just run around it. I don't think T-Rex has lateral agility.

1:04:18Big Cat:So you're saying, oh, so the T-Rex is the same size as the other dude.

1:04:21PFT Commenter:It's a shrunken down one? No, no. No, no, I'm saying a huge T-Rex, but laterally, I don't know how they can move side to side. Bullrush, though. They go forward, then you go around them. I was thinking ankle flick.

1:04:33Big Cat:There's better ones for the bullrush. You could probably run underneath the T-Rex. Maybe a bull? I would say like a, was it Allosaurus? I think the Allosaurus is like the slightly smaller T-Rex.

1:04:43PFT Commenter:An actual bull? I said a bull. Yeah, I mean a bear would be a great nose tackle. Brown bear, black bear. Grizzly. But you could just play dead. We did this. Not grizzly. Oh, yeah. What is it? If it's brown, flush it down. If it's yellow, let it mellow. If it's white, say goodnight. White, say goodnight, is it? Yeah. It's brown. lay down lay down yeah you play dead black black fight back yes yes yes here we go boys if it's grizzly you're fucked and if it's grizzly you can't block it no it's polar bear no i know but

1:05:21Big Cat:grizzly's also you're fucked polar bears brown bear is it i'm sorry grizzly bear no no no yeah grizzly bears a brown bear polar bear that's the one that like if it sees you you're dead okay I spent listen this was a weekly topic brown bears but not all brown bears

1:05:38PFT Commenter:are grizzly bears got it let's talk bears what about if Joey Camasta

1:05:46Big Cat:yeah lay down

1:05:48PFT Commenter:say what's up love Joey same thing stop and stand your ground

1:05:54Big Cat:cool throne my cool throne is Netflix because Netflix announced that we're going to get an extended look presentation of gta 6 they're gonna give us a cinematic view yeah which will be sick so we get we get a netflix special on gta 6 before we get gta 6 that's also true yeah yeah okay so my theory is that is there a release date officially uh you could pre-order uh there's

1:06:17PFT Commenter:been like three release dates in the last like four years so that's always going to be up in the air but i mean if we're going to get like a cinematic look into the game pretty exciting i

1:06:26Big Cat:I feel like they're going to just make like every video game inside this one video game. Yeah.

1:06:30PFT Commenter:You can like go play 3v3 basketball just as like a, oh, there's a park. Let me just go play 2K. Or like, oh, there's.

1:06:36Big Cat:Or it's like, oh, there's a recruiting station. Now I'm playing Call of Duty.

1:06:41PFT Commenter:Yes.

1:06:41Big Cat:And you like get shipped off to war. Yeah.

1:06:44PFT Commenter:They test your eyes. Like, oh, no, you can't fly. Gives you a rifle.

1:06:47Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be every video game wrapped up into one. Yeah.

1:06:51PFT Commenter:And said in Florida, home game for some guys should be good.

1:06:53Big Cat:Mm-hmm.

1:06:56PFT Commenter:good job zach same to you guys all right let's do we got two great interviews p crow armstrong

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1:09:56PFT Commenter:a very very very special guest it is uh m well i'm gonna say you're gonna be mvp i don't want to put that on you but i think you're gonna be mvp if you're not we write yeah we write it's p crow armstrong from the chicago cubs fresh off one of the best games regular season games i've ever attended uh on monday night where let's start with this game because you hit a home run to start the game and a home run to end the game and i think i saw the stat that the last time that happened was like 1964 or something which is insane uh were you in the zone because it feels like you were in the zone you just were seeing the ball perfectly on monday night i mean i dude i made up my mind that i was gonna that i was gonna swing at the first pitch two hours before the game because I was scuffling for what felt like three months, but it was the last seven games or whatever.

1:10:54And I was like, man, I'm playing defense again. So I was like, I got to go out there, and I'm making my mind up now that I'm going to swing. And sometimes that's all you need is like I ended up swinging at the fucking first pitch three of my first four at-bats, I think. Yeah. that doesn't always work but that's that's exactly what i needed yesterday so i think it got me it got me back in like that that uh that attack mode wait so you just said so this is what i love

1:11:25PFT Commenter:about you because you like reading everything and knowing a little like you're hard on yourself to to a point where it's like dude you're you're about you're like the odds on favorite from an mvp you just said you were scuffling for three months it's what it felt like again like perspective is important you just went 30 30 back-to-back seasons first time in cubs history yeah um but scuffling the the kansas city dc road trip that felt like that felt like the longest time ever because i i last year when i was when i was hot like i took for granted how easy it felt and i kind of forgot what baseball was really like yeah um yeah like that that was the first week that I had that kind of struggle with the punch outs and I wasn't walking I was putting weak ass contact and so like it felt like a long time uh and then getting smoked by the Cardinals didn't help yeah so like I think you know last year I could have let that that compile and and snowball and really trend downward but I'm not making decisions like that I'm like there's an active choice to to like a sense of urgency yeah be aggressive when you're around yeah because that that's a big thing about your season which has been awesome to watch is your ability to to take pitches like what when did that start to click for you like i i even look back i think it i think it was the kansas city series might have been before that where you did an abs and i think it was like 0.02 of an inch that it was a ball and you were right it's like how the hell did he see that but But that feels like how you've been seeing it all year.

1:13:09Yeah, that's a decent way to put it. That's a good representation of how confident I feel or at least where my understanding of the strike zone has gotten this year. That was a lucky guess, that one. That was a cutter that kind of backed up, and it's supposed to come back my way, and it presented itself like it went the other way. So I thought it was a change-up, and I was like, Like, well, if that was a changeup and it's going the other way, that was definitely a ball. And then I saw it inch and inch and inch and closer to the zone, and I was like, fuck. No. But, yeah, like, I think the Kansas City series was one of my favorites that I'll probably, like, look back on now because I think I got one hit, maybe two hits in those three games, but I walked five times.

1:13:57Right. You know, that's what I'm most proud of this year is my ability to get on base that way. um it but it started this year like yeah i think uh there's different ways to to play the game and have it bats where like i'll just like last night um my walk last night 1-0 like i'd made up my mind that i was gonna take 1-0 because a lot of guys like to go strike the ball with me they like to get me to chase 1-0 um and so i was like fuck i'll just i'll show bunt try i remember that yeah try and see if we can get the third baseman crash and open up the field a little bit and then it ends up being 2-0 and then I'm not swinging 3-0 against a lefty like it's just it's difficult I've learned how to play the game a little bit differently yeah yeah you can I mean obviously

1:14:45PFT Commenter:you can notice in your numbers and your patience at the plate yeah yeah once you get on bases or have you ever been too aggressive hell yeah how do you dial yourself back because that's like a

1:14:53Big Cat:strength of yours it's like you need you are super aggressive well people try to take back your cycle

1:14:58PFT Commenter:because you got picked off right after I right that was funny like admittedly that was funny I don't blame him for that. I would be the first one to be like, yeah, that's I wonder if that's ever been done. Yeah. If we want to talk about firsts. Yeah. Who who who does that? Who actually lets themselves get picked off after fucking it was. Well, it was my cap. It was a perfect PCA moment because, I mean, I would assume you're not really online much during the season. But like there's I think everyone in Chicago defends you to like the nth degree. I know I'm at the front lines being like he's the best.

1:15:30PFT Commenter:and then there's some haters. So you getting a cycle, which is objectively like an incredibly hard thing to do, and then getting picked off, it's like you just gave that red meat to the haters to be like, buddy, got picked off. Yeah, I was giving the people what they wanted. Yeah.

1:15:44Big Cat:Do you always have the green light? Yeah, for the most part. I mean, there's times like after I hit that single in my second at bat and Say is up when he just took Castillo 110 miles an hour to dead center, I'm like, two outs, I don't need to run here. But then we get to two strikes. I'm like, I trust in Say's ability to have a real at-bat and extend the at-bat. So I'm a little more aggressive, I think, later on in that at-bat. But picking and choosing, I think there's just certain guys that are too fast to the plate where I'm like, again, I trust in hitters two, three, and four to at least advance me or whatever it is.

1:16:33But, yeah, I think for the most part the green light is always there unless it's, you know, we're getting our ass kicked or vice versa and there's just no need for it. Like I think there's always benefit to getting on second base.

1:16:44Big Cat:Yeah. Would you say is it better to hit a walk-off home run or walk-off steal home?

1:16:52like the baseball nerd in me probably says the stolen base and you know forcing an error but I've never hit a walk-off homer before so that probably the homer the homer felt

1:17:05Big Cat:long well that's the right answer it's the right answer guys like me that would never be able to hit home run would say like actually stealing home is better like Tim Kirkson would tell you stealing home is better but then people that can hit home runs are like yeah nothing like a long ball wait yeah had you never hit a walk-off in any level of baseball i hit a i hit a uh no well i hit a walk-off in triple a i hit a i hit a walk-off in double i did but there's yeah i mean no way to compare yeah last night to any of those it felt like the bat flip was was planned you launched that thing yeah i i honestly i was i was walking and i i think that was my time to to think of what I was going to do to celebrate.

1:17:44And then I was just like, fuck it. Just let it eat. Throw it as far as you can. Don't hit say a...

1:17:51PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, it was an incredible, incredible night. And yeah, I mean, it's just been awesome to watch this season. It feels like things... Do you feel like things have clicked? Because last year, you had an incredible start, and then it tailed off. But even your pitching coach said it in an interview, I think, in the offseason. He's like, if Pete has that full season every year, Like he's going to have a really good career, but you're your hardest critic. And you're like, I need to do it for the whole entire year. Yeah. You know, if last year, if I hit, I hit what, like six homers in the second half last year, if I hit six homers in the first half and 25 in the second half, it'd be a completely different conversation just because of the way that the season went.

1:18:32Right. Yeah. Like I turned it on a little bit in the playoffs, but still it wasn't like I was not a complete player and I didn't feel like my season was a it was a complete season but Nico phrased it in such a such a great way for me he was like um I mean I guess I already gave it away but he was like if you would have hit six and 25 in a different yeah order how would you feel looking back at 31 homers and these RBIs I'd have been like well you're right so he's like seasons are going to shape up how they shape up um if you want to feel any type of way about the numbers at the end of it like feel the type of way about the numbers and the numbers only like you hit 31 homers last year right that's really good no matter how you did it this year though i i don't feel like again i'm making a conscious choice that i'm not going to give it away i i know i can walk now i I know I can get on base in a much different way than last year.

1:19:39And I feel like if the season were to end today or yesterday, I would feel very proud of what I improved on.

1:19:50Big Cat:Yeah. I mean, I'd say maybe the biggest improvement is the number change. You are faster. Yeah, way faster. How did that all go down? Because you are so much faster. Yeah, there's less going on back there. I mean, Jed, though, it was Jed, dude. We would just put up shots before stretch in the morning during spring, and Naperville legend Nicky Lopez, him and I were out there every morning just about, and Jed, I guess, gets a lot of shots up on his own at whatever gym he goes to. Yeah. So I guess Jed's got a pretty good jumper, and he was like, hey, man, you ever feel like you're wearing a lineman's number?

1:20:31And I was like, well, yeah, but this is one of the three choices I had when I debuted. So it's not entirely like what I want to wear. And he was like, all right, well, I think you need a fast guy number. And four had just become available. So he was like, if I make this shot, like you're changing your number. And I was like, okay. He was right.

1:20:49Big Cat:Yeah, he's right. Like, yeah, it's actually great for idiots like us because we say that all the time. Like there's fast guy numbers and there's slow guy numbers. And yeah, anything in the 50s is not a fast guy number. I think 55 is a not a fast guy number maybe but like I would if you had to pick the fastest of the 50s I would agree yeah I'd say it's yeah although you can't put that number that's Jaden Daniels you know I appreciate you changing your number out of respect for Jaden yeah you know yeah I can't have the file on there we've had some conversations I don't even want I don't know if I want to get into that one

1:21:24PFT Commenter:yeah that is the four the number change has been huge made all the difference yeah yeah I have a question about your defense. Like, is there ever a ball that you're like, I can't get to it? Because you're just, I think you're so fast and so good off the jump that you make plays that are not normal, look normal, and that almost skews people to be like, well, yeah, of course he got to that. It's like, no, no, you don't realize he got to that because he's jumping faster than everyone else. So are there ever like, are there ever balls like, no, I can't get this? Because I feel like you can get to everything.

1:21:58A lot of the times there's balls that I'm like, I have no chance. That bias kid, I gave him a little courtesy jog on that first homer, but in my right mind, I'm like, that's going to go on to Waveland through center field. He's going to do something that's never been done before ever. Yeah, there's balls that, especially if the wind's blown out, like any ball over my head in left center, I'm usually like that's a homer unless it's hit super low but no like I'm always Adam Jones I guess had some saying he told me this he was like if it hits grass it's your ass so that's I literally remember that every day so maybe that helps me get to more baseballs but no there's always balls O 'Neal Cruz hitting 121 mile an hour line drive through the three four hole that gets to the wall you're like come on bro yeah those are

1:23:01Big Cat:yeah boy let me ask this is very this is very powerful what big cats doing right now because like he since we want you to win mbp yeah he will be your propaganda oh i already have done it so like saying if somebody he's already thinking about the counter arguments i don't see him making too many diving catches because like well that's because he's so fast he gets a jump doesn't have to it's like when we bet on uh travis hunter to win yeah heisman it's like well actually doesn't have that many interceptions because they just don't throw yeah yeah i mean shohei had two home

1:23:27PFT Commenter:runs last night and i was very quick to say that it was in colorado in a blowout and i was just like that does not like pete's home runs mean more all right so let me ask it a different way are you ever surprised by your own speed where you overrun one and you're like oh shit i gotta slow up here to make the catch because i've i've noticed that sometimes where at the very end you're like you're almost past it you're like fuck i was too fast for that there's been a few times yeah i like nolan gorman hit me a ball inst louis that i overran and kind of like slid backwards for that was last year there's little there's little ones like that that come to mind for sure um but i feel so comfortable like and this is such a baseball player thing like you watch you watch like dansby catch fly balls like he let he catches it like here and everyone's taught to catch it above your face and keep it in front of your eyes and i'm like i just feel comfortable off my right shoulder so yeah if i am going to my left and it looks like i overrun a ball like sometimes that's on purpose because i'll just i like catching it here yeah um but yeah i mean sometimes like when i first started doing this new little prep step that that we worked on last spring i found myself getting the balls that i was like oh wait what's the prep step all the youngsters out there listen up if you were to watch an infielder if you were watch like Dansby or Nico they just do like a little hop hop yeah you guys all do it at the same time yeah yeah like the whole defense well the Quentin Barry got our all our outfielders to start doing that um I mean I can't speak for a happer but I know Sia has been doing a little hop um and it's just the whole like object in motion stays in motion until whatever like the you're faster if you're already moving yeah if you're even if you get a later reaction or whatever it is like if you're already moving you're the first however many important feet covered are going to be better than if you're just standing still so like i i bought into that and that it it works

1:25:24Big Cat:that's awesome if only there was like a nickname that we could give it with your name oh what kind

1:25:30PFT Commenter:of hop would it be would it be crow hop maybe yeah could be the crow hop yeah yeah rebranding the crow hop well yeah yeah i like that all right i've asked too many like uh questions that are basically loaded to be like you're so awesome so now here's a here's a not you're so awesome question grill me fuck when everyone chants pca i feel like you strike out a lot of the time we gotta stop it dude i mean if you go back to last year yes pull up some fun stats do some do some research on on when i was having my name chanted yes um i would literally sit in my seats and be like stop everyone stop like he's gonna get too hyped up i was right there with you i and it was No, my asshole got tight, dude.

1:26:10I wasn't hyped at all. This year has been so much better with that, though. My hitting coach was like, hey, you know that they're cheering for you, right? It's not like these are the opposing fans and all the energies with the pitcher. It's all for you, dude. And I was like, okay, we'll see. Let me just succeed a couple times when they are chanting. It's been better this year. But I feel the same way. Okay.

1:26:40PFT Commenter:So was it? Yeah, because it was just like I remember just being at games late in the season being like, can we not do the chant? Like, let him just bat. Dude, it felt like more of a responsibility that I had to get a hit because people were up on their feet and giving me that kind of love. I was like, I have to do this now. And when you're pressing, it's never going to work. So, like, yeah, you're right, man. That'd be a fun stat.

1:27:06Big Cat:Yeah, because it's like just human nature. You hear your name being chanted, and you're not going to take a pitch if it's close. It's like, I want to swing. These people want to see me hit a home run, but that's not always a smart thing. Absolutely. So maybe just don't chant if you have two strikes against you. No PCA chance. You know what? But again, like this year. It's been better, yeah. I play the game differently. I feel comfortable taking 1-0. Just because it's a hitter's count, I don't have to swing. so like you know maybe if it's like a 2-0 maybe let's not okay i like that because then i'm like all right like i want to let it eat right yeah let's let them see one yeah but a lot of guys don't throw fastballs in two accounts anymore so i don't know that i think that's a good point though like yeah it's the coolest thing ever at the same time right that's what you that's the kind of shit that gives you chills and like they were chanting my name before the inning even started yesterday oh yeah oh yeah i've never i've never had that happen to me before and that was

1:28:07PFT Commenter:really that was really cool yeah they're probably gonna do it before your first at bat tonight that'd be awesome like it definitely is gonna happen i've got some really dumb questions for

1:28:15Big Cat:you you have to figure out which one was asked by steven chay he was the one who's sitting again

1:28:19PFT Commenter:steven chay was the one who's sitting in with the cubs jersey in a seat that he never sits in all right and i was like why are you sitting there and he's like what i always say no you don't it's

1:28:27Big Cat:because pete's coming in so okay so i'm gonna ask you three dumb questions and you have to find the chay uh question number one you're a five tool player what's your favorite tool um my my glove my defense is my fate my favorite tool that's a good tool for sure um second will you sprint to first base if you get a walk no never never never i there's like one guy that can do that is brain and nimmo because he's done that his whole career if i were to do that i've looked like an idiot in so many ways this year that i i don't need to i don't need to add to that

1:29:03PFT Commenter:which we tried to get ozzy albis to do it for us yeah and matt olson was like you guys are idiots he literally never walks he's like it's never gonna happen yeah his chase rate is like off the charts yeah yeah like that guy's hitting balls off his shoelaces yeah swings a 40 inch bat yeah

1:29:18Big Cat:that guy's impressive man i think patrick wisdom said he would do that for us he did if he got to walk in that one specific series yeah and the third question um do players get annoyed having to sing take me out to the ball game every game during the regular season it seems like that would be an annoying song like imagine you at your office if you had to sing a song every day at work all right so that would be the cha one yeah yeah i was gonna go with the second question until you read that one yep uh i mean does he think that we sing along i think he might so i think you might think that yeah no no man like uh there's nothing worse than when somebody does a poor job.

1:29:57Yeah. Do you guys notice that? Hell yeah. Who was it that came to rig me? Alex Cooper. Former coworker of ours. You know, I, and again, like if you, not everybody's got a good voice, but it was just, it was the way that, that, that it felt like she wanted it. She was like kind of mocking it. Yeah. It was a slight, it was a slight mock job. Yeah. So, like, that kind of stuff irks me sometimes. But, again, like, if you get the opportunity to sing a stretch, like, you're going to do it how you want. And, you know, I don't get annoyed by this song just because I'm either really pissed about getting out before and I'm like, all I can do is rerun the at-bat or whatever, or I'm pretty pumped or Say is making some funny faces at me in the right field.

1:30:45PFT Commenter:All right, wait. So follow-up Che question. I'm going to follow up the Che question with the Che question. will you sing it at some point this year just to test it out? Running out to center field? Yeah, or if you're coming, you know, if it's at home. At home, you'd always be coming in. Yeah, yeah. But, like, would you consider maybe just one time and let us know how it goes? Yeah. Sing along. For sure.

1:31:06Big Cat:Okay. For sure. End to one. You have to start saying end to one. All right. End to two. And I got to finish with let's get some runs. Let's get some runs. Yeah, you should say that to the boys in the dugout. Yeah. Let's get some runs. Let them know. All right. Hey, they're asking for runs. You know what my favorite – we all do this in the dugout is when they do the hefty, hefty – Yes. The whole dugout in unison. Hefty. It's great.

1:31:30PFT Commenter:I dream about – I think my two dream jobs – and I have a dream job, so I shouldn't say this, but my two dream jobs would be the host of Price is Right and then being a baseball bench coach. So not the manager because it feels like the dugout – I guess it's game to game. It feels like the best hang ever. Is it? It's pretty great. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Like, I wasn't, like, the best guy to be around in the last three days. But for the most part, the dugout is, it's, like, such a place where you can just kind of tune out in a way. Yeah. But the bench coach, I don't know if you're ever really just hanging as the bench coach.

1:32:13Oh, and if I was the bench coach, that's what I'd do.

1:32:16PFT Commenter:I'd be a vibes guy. Yeah. Just being like trying to pump up the boys, maybe doing the light the shoe on fire thing. Yeah. That kind of stuff. You'd be the prank guy. Yeah. I don't think a bench coach has ever been the prank guy. You never know.

1:32:28Big Cat:I think the cat just invented a job for himself. Bench coach is what he would envision his job to be. Yeah. Just like hang. Just good hang. Just hang out. I think every dugout could use some of that. Yeah. A hang guy. I think every dugout could use a hang guy. Okay. I'm going to apply. What about a first base coach? What does a first base coach do when they're not taking your gloves, giving you the sliding bit?

1:32:56Ours is on the iPad looking at set times and times the home plate, pickoff moves. He does a lot of work. I don't really know what he's doing during the inning, but that guy is like on the computer all day all night like what can we what edge can we get on this guy when it comes to like like i was saying about guys who have really fast times the plate like all of the kansas city royals it's like he's looking for one thing like a lean or something like kershaw you remember how kershaw always had like that funky slide step yeah he always leaned into it and you could you know there's just shit like that that that the first base coach looks for But my first base coach gives me the ick sometimes because he wraps all of my gear really tight, and he makes my batting gloves all scrunched up and crumpled.

1:33:53So I got an issue with that. You got to tell him.

1:33:56PFT Commenter:I think you just got to be honest with him. But he's done it all year, man. Oh, yeah. Now there's superstitions. I don't need him to. I just have the bat boy. Me and the bat boy are. He knows to unfurl him.

1:34:07Big Cat:Yes, he does. Are you afraid that you're going to hurt his feelings? if you're like, hey, can you fold my gloves differently?

1:34:12PFT Commenter:Yeah, because you could be like, dude, why didn't you tell me?

1:34:14Big Cat:I thought you liked him like this. Yeah, when dad does laundry and you're like, that's not how mom usually folds. I should just have an honest conversation. I should. Maybe now you are. Maybe this is how it... That might be worse, though. He's like, I had to find out about this in a podcast. Yeah. Well, I know the first thing I'm doing when I get to the field. I got to beat it to the punch.

1:34:34PFT Commenter:Heads up. All right, I got two questions. We're doing the dumb question portion. so I got a guy who's helps me with prep VP of big cat corp shout out him he's he's been helping me for like a decade now he's got he's a Cubs fan and he's got two sons nine and twelve who are the biggest PCA fans so he he wrote me two questions and it's like hey this is your chance so this is from is verbatim is from Hank the nine-year-old how did you know that you could have power to hit home runs and have you always hit home runs like when you were younger I didn't hit very many homers when I was younger at all like I I was that little slappy uh I'm gonna shoot the five six hole uh I can hit a nice little good looking line drive in the left center gap uh but then like my senior high school I kind of like tapped into some more power um I just didn't know how to swing prop like I didn't know how to pull the ball properly um and that's not really even something i figured out until last year so uh i always knew that i was like baseball strong like i'm not really that strong otherwise but i always knew that i could hit balls very flush and far

1:35:50but i would say it was like 2022 or three so like my first or second year of pro ball where i was

1:35:55PFT Commenter:like i i got some juice so that that's a good answer because i i'm just uh inferring here i I don't know Hank, the nine-year-old, but I'm guessing he probably doesn't hit a lot of home runs. He's wondering when he can start hitting home runs. So he could come later. You're nine years old. Yeah. Yeah. I hit my first home run around nine. Okay. So you're behind Hank. Not really. You say, maybe she's turning 10, man. All right. And then Reed asked, he's 12. He said, what is better, stealing a base or hitting a triple?

1:36:27I'd say stealing a base. triples like triples are pretty rewarding but i feel like usually like you don't hit triples like

1:36:36PFT Commenter:very hard like yeah it's a weird bounce or something absolutely especially at wrigley like i've snuck so many balls like off the end of my bat down the line um i'd say stealing bags because um i think it's it's more of like a i think it's more of a demoralizing thing for pitcher catcher combo like that they just gave that up like you're gonna give up hits as a pitcher so you know if you give up a two out triple it's still two outs and it's same thing as a guy being on second base yeah i'd say stealing bags stealing third base specifically is probably the most rewarding way to steal a bag yeah i've got one dumb one and then one that i

1:37:12Big Cat:think isn't dumb but maybe it is dumb so you can tell me and then we'll get back to regular questions yeah uh actually the entire interview is just yeah i mean you could get the vibe you know you know us we're dumb guys whole podcast doesn't feel that dumb though do you change the way that you play defense at Wrigley Field given when the Ivy grows in? That's a... That's not your dumb question. What were you about to say? You were about to say it's a what question? No, that was actually a pretty cool question. I've never asked that before. I don't think that was dumb at all. No. I don't. I don't.

1:37:46I'm still thinking about this, though.

1:37:49Big Cat:That's maybe the best answer that we've ever had. Yeah, that's a great answer for a cool question. I'm still thinking about this. No, because the ball, I guess specifically I would play balls off the wall differently early in the year when the IV is non-existent. But you still get some pretty hard bounces off the brick even when the IV is in full form.

1:38:19I definitely feel a little more comfortable going into the ivy when there's more of it than when there's none of it

1:38:25Big Cat:that could also get you in trouble because it looks welcoming and then you kind of forget oh shit there's brick behind there yeah it's not like so cushy as it looks you find the brick pretty fast but when there's no ivy and it's just the roots and the branches or whatever that shit hurts I've been cut up and it's uncomfortable for sure Yeah, cool answer. That was a good question. Thank you. Cool question. The other question I had was after the Dodgers series, I saw some of the interviews that you did right afterwards where your answer was like, that was pretty cool, but ultimately it doesn't mean much until we play them in the playoffs.

1:39:00Big Cat:But was there a part of you that after that, it did something to the belief that the team has where it's like we can beat the best teams in baseball and we don't need to be scared of them when it is time in the playoffs? Yeah, I mean, I don't know if that series really did that. Because excluding Tokyo last year, we had the season series against them. I think four to two. So we've always loved going and playing those guys. The same way we love going and playing the Brewers. Because they got the best staff in baseball, Milwaukee does. So, like, they're honestly, as much as it pains me to say, like, they're a really fun team to play against and just to kind of appreciate.

1:39:47And as are the Dodgers. Like, they have the best player of all time on their team. And then you got, I mean, you got at least three Hall of Famers on the field at one time with Shohei, Freddie, Mookie. So I don't think we ever needed to, like, prove to ourselves that we could hang with them or that we would want to see. We want to see whoever it is in October. Yeah. And, you know, yeah, we love playing those teams. Those are some of the easiest games to get up for and really lock in for us. It's like a precursor to October baseball sometimes.

1:40:29PFT Commenter:Yeah, like, I mean, the game on Monday night felt like a playoff atmosphere. Absolutely. It really did. Like, I was feeling it, and, like, I had the same nerves as a playoff game. Absolutely. Yeah. That's what you guys create, though. Like, that's what – and it's not the same at every stadium, but that's what fans help us with and do for us. Yeah. You know, if there was nobody in the bleachers, like, that'd still be a crazy game to be a part of because we're all competitors. But, like, you know, that's what you want to be playing in front of. Also, I did see your quote about the fight in the bleachers, good catch at the end.

1:41:02PFT Commenter:Right? Yeah. I mean, it is unfortunate. You shouldn't fight in games, but there was competitive. They were being competitive out there. Dude, were you in the field for that? Yeah. The whole stadium stopped and looked out there. I was right there with them. It was crazy. I could hear skin on skin. Yeah. That was the upsetting part to me. I was like, man, again, I'm all for the trash talking between fan bases and all that stuff, but I'm like. No, you're a loser if you fight in a pro sport. There's nothing to do. What are you doing, man? Especially in the bleachers. No fighting in the bleachers. I saw a fight last year.

1:41:39I feel like Philly was here, but it was this one dude. He looked like a former lineman. He was massive. He was taking on everyone. But there was a solid eight rows of people that all fell. Yeah, right. Kids out there. Kids were getting picked up and carried out. I was like, that's where I'm slightly upset by that. I think it's not so exciting. I like watching a good scrap sometimes.

1:42:05PFT Commenter:Yeah, UFC. Absolutely. UFC's great. That's sanctioned. Let's not get the same. Yeah, we need like a message on the Jumbotron. Like, I'm Pete Crow Armstrong. No fighting in the bleachers. Yeah. That'd actually be funny. That'd be good. I loved left field after that, too, because they'd started the right field. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was like, see? Oh, yeah. That's how you handle that. And it was going back and forth. All right. I got. So last time I think you did a podcast was a couple of weeks ago with Kristen Cavallari. I have a I think you got your your stories mixed up. Probably did. OK, so sometimes the the dinosaurs don't exist.

1:42:42PFT Commenter:Yeah. Babe Ruth was maybe Dominican. What? That's the that's I haven't heard that one. Yes. Wait, you said you said Babe Ruth doesn't exist. All right. All right. So I'm sure y 'all will find the whole clip. But, and again, if I'm just completely blowing smoke here, forgive me. I did, I don't buy into the conspiracy. So I feel like I did my due diligence. I, I, I at least started it off with, I don't really believe in conspiracies, but if I had to find one funny, it would be this. Yeah. So if I'm going to save my own ass here. Yeah. Is that like, that's fair. That would be funny. I will agree with you on that.

1:43:19If paper didn't exist, that would be hilarious. I think that would be like the craziest folklore of all. I'd agree. of all time 100 % agree so for the dude that did say it on a podcast to come out and say that i was like that's pretty fucking funny yeah that's ballsy yes and funny so i was like well shit i'm not in front of a baseball crowd like you're not gonna and then of course everybody yeah everyone

1:43:42PFT Commenter:took it but yeah the the it's dinosaurs don't exist that's the old i think carl everett yeah carl everett had a belief that if he didn't see it with his own eyes it didn't exist like kellen

1:43:51Big Cat:keller might not have been totally blind yeah there's that one or stevie wonder's not blind

1:43:55PFT Commenter:but yeah babe ruth being dominican is like a real theory online no way yeah you have to send me yeah

1:44:01Big Cat:i will i will you have some yeah some literature for you yeah to peruse yeah some literature yeah

1:44:06PFT Commenter:yeah the pmt book god if this gets me so wait for the record no no listen we say the best part about this show is we say the dumb stuff you just have to sit there gun to your head did babe ruth exist did he walk this earth yeah i would i would assume that he did like okay we're not we're not

1:44:22Big Cat:all the way there yet but like carl everett if you didn't see it all right gun to your head if you had a uh let's say a t-rex 400 uh at bats in a season how many home runs is he hitting zero

1:44:35PFT Commenter:oh yeah that's correct okay because he doesn't have the wingspan yeah you don't find a bat that works for that yeah the strike zone on that okay okay the strike yeah the strike zone would be massive yeah the arms would not be conducive to a good baseball swing yeah it would be the best he'll get hit by a lot of pitches though what's yeah he probably would out of the plate what dinosaur would be the best at baseball i think um the one the ankylisaurus the one that's got

1:44:59Big Cat:the tail that's the club just use that as a bat oh that dad oh yeah that's the ankylisaurus yeah

1:45:04PFT Commenter:that guy would rock that really come up yeah it did yeah with its low heavy body for a solid batting stance and a massive club tail they can swing so they would use they wouldn't even use a bat. Use his tail. Tiny strike zone. Damn, P.F.T. You got your dino knowledge down.

1:45:17Big Cat:I've been going to a lot of museums recently. Although, that might not have existed. That's the only problem. Pterodactyl is number two. What do they say about a velociraptor? I feel like pinch runner. It's the pterodactyl two. I think raptors got a lot of good PR from Jurassic Park movies. I read somewhere that they might not have. They weren't even that big. They were the size of a dog. Oh, they were tiny? Yeah, but in the movies, they're kind of vicious.

1:45:43PFT Commenter:We got to get this updated because it says Pterodactyl would be defensively gifted because it can fly. It would have Kevin Kiermaier-esque range in center field. That should be Pete Armstrong range in center field. No, no, no. We can still give that to KK. Okay. He was awesome. He was the shit. All right. And the Apatosaurus, it was tipping scales at as many as 33 tons. The Apatosaurus was one of the largest dinosaurs of all time. uses huge tail as a whip to deter predators, making it the rough equivalent of Prince Fielder, but with better bat speed. Wow. Yeah, no shit. Prince Fielder kind of taking a shot on that.

1:46:19PFT Commenter:Yeah. Damn. How much did that thing weigh? 33 tons. Yeah, that's kind of mean to Prince Fielder.

1:46:25Big Cat:What was it like on measurement day? We were like, hey, we got to measure you for the strike zone. I mean, we literally did it like during camp. Just went to the weight room. They had the MLB people come in. You had to like lock your legs out. You'd actually, you'd, you'd rather them mark you shorter than you think you are. So like a lot of egos were, were hurt, but at the same time, like it helps you out. Yeah. I didn't want to point any fingers. I think, I think Bregman might've been hurt the most. Did you see that? I think he was listed as like six, one or six feet. And he's, he's five, nine.

1:47:05Big Cat:It was not five, nine. We can't be out there telling people that we're six feet tall. I don't know how you do it. I mean, he didn't need the extra two inches. The guy's got 30 playoff homers. Right. But, yeah, he's not six feet tall at all. I think he'd be the first to tell you that, too. He should just say, yeah, you know, I tricked a system. I stood in a way that made me look shorter. Yeah. So he's playing like 3D chess. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, yeah.

1:47:34PFT Commenter:All right. I know you've got to run in a minute. This has been so much fun. I got a couple last questions. So your dad grew up a Cubs fan. How is he just like text you every now and then just being like, I love you even more now. Because like what a crazy story to have. Your dad is a Cubs fan and now you're the best player on the Cubs. Like that's crazy. Yeah, he's I appreciate him because he's he keeps his emotions to himself. Like he was geeking when I got traded. I was rehabbing in Florida, and he was in town, him and my mom, just to visit. And so I found out in the car on the way to lunch, and they had already been there.

1:48:14So I think my dad, he excused himself from the table right before I got there and had a little moment for himself. And I think that's how I'll put the last few years is just that. Like, he, I don't think, I think he knows I don't want it to be anything bigger than, like, I'm just, if I was a national, I'd hope you'd feel the same way. Right. But you know, deep down. But I think deep down, he's having a really good time. Yeah, like, you have siblings, right?

1:48:47PFT Commenter:No. Oh, you don't have siblings. I was going to say you're the favorite child. You're the favorite. I mean, that would have been an easy one. I am the only child. Only and favorite. and it also is crazy like the serendipity like I don't want to say serendipity but Javi Baez you get traded for Javi Baez Javi Baez was maybe the most electric cub in the like you know that stretch absolutely and then you're the most electric cub and it's like it's just so cool and it's like have you had those moments where like I watched the world series with my dad I watched Javi Baez and then I got traded for him to the cubs yeah I yeah um yeah that i i yeah i don't know how to talk about it really because it's crazy because it is crazy that was my favorite player yeah that was my favorite player by far i i i remember trying to hit like him in the cage i remember um ah god i remember just slide like him yeah that guy i I remember his first homer in Coors.

1:49:48He was the most exciting thing to ever happen in my childhood probably because I was all about sports.

1:49:58I did not believe it when I found out really. But, yeah, I got to meet him last year. I got to say thank you for just existing because that's why I'm here now. that guy was the shit he was the coolest I don't love baseball tattoos but if anybody's going to have the MLB logo on their neck his love for the game did he get it before he got to Major League Baseball?

1:50:32Big Cat:that's awesome

1:50:33PFT Commenter:he did last couple questions first one, can you put on the headphones real quick so I have a question for Pete that is related to Max, our producer. Max is a really good baseball player. He was the Matt Stairs of the CAA. Played at Hofstra. No big deal. We went and did batting practice at Wrigley. He was maybe like eight feet from going out. The wind was blowing in. The wind was blowing in. Do you have any tips for him to hit a home run? I think it was 20 miles an hour in from right field. Yeah, it was the day that I ate the sunflower seed. You said, what did you think, by the way, when you saw that clip?

1:51:10PFT Commenter:You're like, that's kind of weird. Nah, I kind of thought that that was some shit that I would do, too. Yes, respect. Yeah. And by the way, you said at least it wasn't my dip. I would take your dip, so.

1:51:19Big Cat:I wouldn't let you do that. Just run it on the record. I've been eating grass at every cool stadium that we go to. Like, just one piece of grass. So, like, I ate the Tiger Stadium in Death Valley and LSU. Ate that grass. Wrigley grass is, I think it's the tastiest.

1:51:33PFT Commenter:This is the first I'm hearing of this. You've been doing this? Yeah. Yeah, I've noticed it. Yeah, it's been on camera, Max. That's pretty good. It's really fucked up when we go to synthetic fields.

1:51:42Big Cat:Yeah, I try. You just eat some rubber pellets. Yeah, but I eat it, and then I go to the bathroom. Have you done any soccer fields yet? I don't know that I've done a soccer field grass. That is good grass. That's good grass. That's good grass. But he's done golf courses. He does every golf course he plays at. Yeah, I think Wrigley Field has the tastiest grass of any stadium that I've been in. Shout out Dan Kiermaier, actually. Kevin Kiermaier's brother. Kevin Kiermaier's brother. Shout out Dan. Ground screw. All right, Max, what's up?

1:52:04PFT Commenter:Max, yeah. Help Max out. All right. When the wind's blowing in, you've got two choices, and it's to go at either scoreboard because it just blocks the wind. Wind could be blown in 40, and if you hit it low enough at the left field scoreboard, it's going to go out. If you hit it low enough at the right field scoreboard, it's going to go out. That's a good tip. I was just trying to go down the line. That's a good tip. Yeah. You just got to yank, bro. When the wind's blowing in, you just went in doubt. You got to yank. Yank it. Yeah. Yank it. I like that. I like that. All right. And then last question.

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1:52:46Big Cat:How are you doing today? I did have a quick question That's cool to you So when we're sitting in the stands as fans

1:52:53PFT Commenter:We see you go absolutely yard at Wrigley We know that's got to be an insane feeling for you But population percentage wise None of us are going to experience that Very minimal Some guys get close Like 8-10 feet but is there a common man's feeling you can closely compare it to yeah um

1:53:18i would say i would say like like making an eagle and in three perfect shots okay um i think i related to that because because like i'm i'm grinding my ass off trying to play golf you know like that's some rewarding it's just like that's some rewarding shit so like that or or or like when a when like a dog really likes you and the owner said that they weren't they don't like anybody

1:53:53PFT Commenter:yeah i like that you know that's yeah that's a good one good feeling i was gonna say like the hitting like the last shot in beer pong twice where it ends the game that feels good sure yeah um yeah no rebuttal yeah no rebuttal feels good you feel like the man in that moment yeah um maybe like a real life 2k green bean like you hit that perfect three on 2k yeah yeah okay i like my dog one though i think the dog one is relatable yeah where it's like oh this dog's not friendly it's like just licking just like loving you and just nuzzling up yeah my buddy's uncle had like a rottweiler puppy and he was freaking huge and um he kind of had him as like a guard dog so he'd always be leashed up out out in the backyard and he was like you can go like look at him if you want and i was like nah i got this and next thing you know like i can't if you can't get rid of me i can't get rid of him and i would say it's like that it's a great feeling That's a great feeling.

1:54:54Big Cat:Can you bat flip after that? Like how can you walk it off? Yeah. Maybe a bone for the dog? Yeah. Flip a bone. Yeah. Treat? Send to the moon. Yeah. Or you just walk off and play your... Me and my boys always talked about if we had like one song to have like a walking montage in a movie or something, like what would it be? I would just start playing that song. Yeah. And just walk off all cool. Wait, what song? I don't know what mine would be. but if you could have like one song in like a movie montage of like If the shit's blowing up behind you and you're walking off in slow-mo, what would that song be?

1:55:33That's a conversation me and my friends have a lot.

1:55:35Big Cat:That's a good Mount Rushmore. Yeah, we should do it. We'll do it. Freebird. That's good. Freebird is probably a pretty popular choice. I like that one. It's a good one.

1:55:46PFT Commenter:Well, Pete, thank you so much for coming in, man. Massive fan. I'm on the front lines. I hope you know. I hope you see me on the front lines. I do. It sucks because I do have to get like... We do it every now and then. But I have to get a little dirty and I have to slander, but that's fine. Sometimes you got to slander when you're in an MVP race. You know, you got to just – you just got to go out and just start – we got to do some negative publicity stuff. I'll tell you that I appreciate that behind the scenes. Yeah. You cannot condone it. No, I actually feel like so – I love getting in like a season-long debate and just like I'll just – when I'm bored, I'll just fire it up and be like, here's some PCA stats.

1:56:23PFT Commenter:Here's some Shohei stats. Like, debate me. Like, come on. Let's go internet. It gets you off, man. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, hopefully we win the debate. But, yeah, you're the man.

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1:57:33PFT Commenter:order with TickPick okay we now welcome on a very very special guest it is Joe Buck our good longtime friend Joe Buck he wrote the foreword for our book that is out now and I gotta start with that Joe first of all thank you I cannot believe you did that it's actually I got a little teary-eyed reading through the table of contents and being like why the fuck did any of these people like agree to do this it's pretty damn cool uh so thank you would you say this is the dumbest book you will be part of uh no no i don't think that i i well there's a few things i have to say of what you just said right there first of all i was publicly shamed into writing the forward to your book because it was about a year ago.

1:58:25I think we had the Bears week one against the Vikings, and I came to your studio, and you basically on the air or whatever, the internet, asked me if I would write the foreword. Now, what am I going to say? No. It takes an hour, maybe, maybe not that long, and so I did it. I'm glad I did it. No, it's not the dumbest book that I could be associated with i'm excited to do it and the answer to your question is why would any of these people uh agree to do any of this because we don't want you two pricks to turn on us true yeah it's it's like you know i'm keeping you close so i can do a little bit of work yeah keep you guys on my side if you're there and uh you know we just go forward in life

1:59:14PFT Commenter:that's actually i mean it's a totally fair like like one hour of your time to to get us to not turn on you uh and attack you like that's a good trade i think it is i mean i i think you make trades in life you're constantly bartering and the one thing that i have uh to barter with with you guys is my time and i gave you an hour or so uh and tell me the name of your ghost writer are we allowed to say? Matthew is really talented. And so I actually dictated all of this into my notes. I wrote a page and then I said, you know what, this is too slow. I don't want to give this much time. And I dictated it into my voice notes, sent it to him.

2:00:08He crafted it. I recrafted it. that's what came out in the wash he's fantastic i'm actually because it's him i'm very excited to read this book and uh and and get kind of a peek behind the curtain even more uh with the two

2:00:25Big Cat:of you yeah yeah well we appreciate it joe thank you very much for your time and for doing that means a lot also because we can put your name on the cover and that's our that's our trick like to everybody out there that's thinking about writing a book you should just network until you have people that are in your circle that you can ask to write your own book for you under threat of turning on them and turning their lives into an online hell afterwards. That's the best way to write a book. If you roll the tape backward, the last person I wrote a forward for in their book is Artie Lang. Oh, great.

2:00:55Good company.

2:00:56PFT Commenter:All right. So I went from the debacle on HBO with the Jill Buck slash Artie Lang show that was canceled after nine minutes to... Then getting to have a friendship and relationship with Artie, who's fantastic. I knew he would be. He's got his demons and they're well-documented. But he asked me, that's how far we got in our relationship, to where he said, well, I'm coming out with my second book. Would you write the forward? And the answer was obviously yes. So it goes Artie Lang, then you guys, and then I don't know who could possibly be next. I mean, when we do a sequel to our book, you'll have to do that as well.

2:01:40PFT Commenter:Pardon my book again.

2:01:42Big Cat:And we'll write the forward to your book if you want us to. Yeah, absolutely. That's an open invite to you. You write like one every - I've written one.

2:01:48PFT Commenter:Yeah, every two years you write one. I actually have a question about the - And we did an episode way back where we talked about the famous Joe Buck episode. We had Artie Lang on. We had Paul Rudd on. So in this book, in our book, we talk about our pursuit for TV. and we were on ESPN for one day, one episode, when you were getting pitched the Joe Buck show, was it in your head you're like, yeah, you know what? I do need a TV show because going through the process of writing this book, we kind of revisited it and been like, man, were we stupid to think, yeah, you know what? We do need a TV show.

2:02:24PFT Commenter:Like, that's what we do. Like, that's what, yeah, we need a part of my take show. Like, that's how it works. Did you have something similar where you're like, yeah, I need a Joe Buck show? Of course. Well, I, I, so, uh, Ross Greenberg forever, uh, had been talking to me about wanting to do a show and Bob Costas had stepped away. And so it was an obvious, uh, you know, I was filling in for his show. I wanted to take it in a very different, uh, direction. And so when I was, you know, in talks with Ross, I said, it's gotta be edgy. It's gotta be fun. It's gotta be funny. I mean, I know how you guys do stuff at HBO and it's very highbrow and it's very well done.

2:03:06And, you know, you kind of set the standard for a lot of these magazine shows, certainly with sports. Would would you be open to doing that? And the answer was yes. And in fact, I was the one that that was adamant about getting Artie on the show because it was a big Stern fan. And I knew he was a big sports fan. Rudd was. a longtime friend. And then he kind of wrangled Sudeikis onto that. David Koechner was a part of this kind of last comedy piece. It was a great lineup. Sudeikis wasn't really Sudeikis yet. And, you know, Rudd was Rudd. And then I said, we got to have Artie on to have some edge.

2:03:47And the story is old by now. But I went into him before I met him before we walked out on stage. And I said, hey, man, I want you to let me have it. I want you to come at me. I want you to have fun. I want this to be just kind of nuts here at the end. Little did I know, as he admitted in that book that I wrote the forward to, that he snorted Vicodin and drank Jack Daniels before he came out there. I wasn't aware of that minor detail. And then it kind of went off the rails, but I'm glad I did it. And when that whole thing came down, I remember being on that. We probably have done this. probably this is the exact interview we've done before but I remember walking off the stage and it was just kind of like it was just like a pregnant pause kind of it was hanging in the air now what because that was like the end of it's like all right good night see you in a month or whatever we're doing the next one and uh and then I went right out and talked to the writers who were going to review it and the guy from the New York Times said to me uh Joe do you feel like you just got cornholed on national tv the times the times yeah cornhole new york times use the word cornhole i swear to god i i can roll that back in my mind and then the new york uh the new york post guy the stringer for the new york post said something like uh is uh tmz really your favorite website i was like we're done we're done like this this is not going anywhere good uh but but at the time i thought you know if this were on fox and it was david hill in charge he would have kind of charged out there like pt barnum like this is what you're gonna get on the show you never like embrace it and and to me it was like everybody ran and hid which i hated yeah and And that's why I basically Tom Cruise jumped on the couch saying Artie Lang is coming on the second show or I'm not.

2:05:51I'm not doing it if Artie doesn't come on. And he did our cold open. I had to talk to the head of HBO, Richard Plepler. It was a long, boring story, but I had to basically say, look, I've already got a day job. I'm being hit by Artie Lang jokes every time I walk into stadium. Let him come back on. Let's have fun with it. And if you don't let me do it, then I'm just going to quit. And they let me do it. I'm glad they did. And I struck up a friendship with Artie who apologized. And I said, no need. I told you to do that. And we all go forward in life. But I'm glad I did all that. I feel like you learned.

2:06:29There's no way you guys don't look back at that time on that show and go, there's something you learned. And beyond just the, you know, we shouldn't have done the show on ESPN or whatever it was. There's something that you took from that that made you better today. And there's no doubt that applies to HBO and me.

2:06:48Big Cat:For sure. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. And if that New York Times reporter had done their job, they would know that TMZ is not your favorite website. Already said what your favorite website was on the show. It's suckingcock.com. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if it was C or the D word, but I, yeah, I, I, it was, it was one of the two. And I was like, okay, this is what we're doing. Got it. I think I'm good. I got to go to the bathroom. I've been out here for an hour and a half. Yeah, it was great.

2:07:12PFT Commenter:But you said it, and we talked about it in the book, like, I have a great job outside of this. I don't need, you know, like, this doesn't make or break me. That was the big lesson we learned when we did the TV show. It's like, oh, shit. Like, people are going to listen to us whether we have a TV show or not. Why do we care about this anymore? Yeah. And I think, you know, for me, had all that – if you go – I think that was like 2009, somewhere in there. If it's 2026 and that – I might be in a different place with Artie Lang. But I sat there, in my mind, every time the director, great director, Mark Payton, shot me, I can just – when I watch it, I can watch my mind turning like, do I jump down in here with him?

2:07:57Because I'm going to lose. Yeah. But I'm going to try to stand up for myself. Or am I just going to sit here and grin and fake smile and just hope it ends soon? And, you know, and you just I think I would maybe do it differently today. Maybe I would. I don't know. But I think you learn from all that stuff.

2:08:20Big Cat:And I'm not saying this is true for every TV show, but I have noticed over the years that a lot of even the most successful TV shows, they end up hating doing television towards the end of the run, if not like as they're actively putting out great TV. So like Seinfeld walked away when it was the biggest show on earth. Chappelle walked away, biggest show on earth. The Game of Thrones people hated doing that show by the end of it, by that last season. And it kind of showed at the end. I just think that what we learned from is that we have a great thing going right here doing a podcast. and so why we don't have to do a tv show just because that might be on you know in in airports or in gyms across the country uh we've got a great thing here let's not strive for what we have the grass is not it's usually not greener than it is in front of you so it's a good learning experience and it's a different world now too i mean that that when you do that when when you did that when I did the HBO thing, that's a long time ago now.

2:09:15And the media has evolved and this, you're doing a TV show. You're, you're already doing it. So, you know, it's, if you want to go mainstream, I was excited to be on HBO. I would still be excited to be on HBO. I love, a lot of those guys are still really good friends of mine. And, and the frustrating thing for me was after all that thing came out or that that kind of that debacle happened i i asked them about the ratings and like oh no the ratings are really good and actually the rating went up during the hour and i said well can you put that out yeah right they said uh no uh we don't really talk ratings at hbo i was like well can you make an exception can we can we have one thing in our column that's good and the answer was no so i i would do it again it would be different but i would kind of want to do the same show weirdly enough and uh and i i kind of like that stuff uh even though it probably

2:10:10PFT Commenter:didn't work out in my favor uh speaking of ratings wait who has the super bowl this year we do oh really oh yes oh i hadn't heard you guys hadn't told us uh yeah i i knew i i assumed that's why you were saying that are you are you a nfl merchant when it comes to ratings do you you know you you basically just get to ride the nfl for all your ratings you do you open up the ratings you see the ratings the next day and you're like did it again joe buck monday football another hit yeah because i know they're all tuning in to go what's he gonna say honey gather get the kids it's joe and troy uh no i i mean do i look yeah i want i want my bosses to be happy i i want the people who pay a lot of money uh to the nfl to be thrilled that we got a great rating but i i'm also not of the mind of like you know i i affect that i think the only time maybe if the game is a blowout and we're having fun a few people may stick around uh it but maybe not so i i don't i i am not delusional are you are you you've called nfl for a very long time i actually saw i think it's the longest my 33rd year i i saw the longest punt return i think it was uh was a saints game from like late 90s and it was you on the call and i was like oh my god that's joe buck because your voice a little higher and it's just like holy shit he's been calling us for a long time 30 to 25 but yeah i was just out of the womb yeah is it uh are you shocked at all like that the nfl do you ever think it was going to get to this level where it's like it's just when they when they do the top 100 shows of the year it's like maybe there's one olympic event and and the oscars and then it's yeah it's between like 88 the only gap is like there's 12 shows right literally that aren't football related which is crazy yeah well no i'm i'm glad it's gotten to this point i think if it was at this point back then the growth has been exponential been incredible i think if it was at this point back then, I probably wouldn't have gotten a chance at 25 to do major network football.

2:12:33When that call went out and David Hill and Ant Gorin, you know, they paid all that money for Summerall and Madden. They had a great number two team, Stockton and Matt Millen. And then it was like, hey, we're going to give a bunch of people who we haven't seen on network TV forever a shot. are there any famous announcers who have kids? And it was like me and Kenny Albert and Brenneman and Kevin Harlan. And I mean, it was kind of crazy that all of us had a dad who was involved somehow already in either broadcasting or football media in the case of Kevin Harlan. But we all showed up there like, what in the hell are we doing here?

2:13:18Let's figure this out together. I was with Tim Green who was just off the field and had never done any TV. I had never done football. But we fumbled our way through it, so to speak, the first couple of years. And then you learn and grow just like we were talking. That's what this business is all about is just kind of trial and error and fake it till you make it.

2:13:39Big Cat:I don't know if you've seen any of the uploaded footage from the 1999-2000 NFL seasons online, but there's a conspiracy out there. They make the broadcast look way worse than it was at the time. Like if you, if you look up a 1999 NFL game, it looks like it's straight out of the seventies, the way that you see it on YouTube. I watched those games. The graphics are massive. It looks grainy. Yeah. But I watched those games. They, they looked good at the time. It did not look like that. They're trying to make us feel old by having like. I think you may be misremembering. No. As a famous person once said, I, I, yeah, I think, you know, with high definition TV, I remember being in telecom classes.

2:14:19If you go back to my college days, like back in 89 and 90, and they're like, man, when this high definition TV comes and they had the they had the technology. They were just worried about rolling it out because it would force everybody at the time. It would force everybody to buy new hardware, new TVs. And it was like it's going to this is going to be the way of the future. but it is. I assume that in the late 90s, we were not in high definitionville. That's what it looked like. That's how different our brains and eyes are now watching games with this crystal clear picture like you're there. I do think that's kind of how it looked.

2:15:03I'm sorry to say.

2:15:04Big Cat:So I was looking at the ratings from the World Cup this summer. Were you rooting against the World Cup ratings? So you could say like Monday Night Football is still king? Boy, I have never thought of it in those terms. I would be if I were you. I'd be right. You're a liar. Yeah, you're waiting on Neilson. You put alerts on for Neilson. Did I compare soccer? Am I supposed to say soccer and football against football? No, I don't. That is one where I do not You don't even think about soccer at all. I'm not like that.

2:15:32PFT Commenter:Yeah. I did think, I got swept up in the U.S. mania until it came crashing down with a thud in that final effort. But yeah, I was sitting in front of my TV night after night with my eight-year-old boys watching soccer, which is something that I had never done prior. So I was a new fan, definitely.

2:15:56Big Cat:And now we're back to real football, thankfully, Monday night preseason football. That's what we're back for. Can't wait to see it. You just showed the depth chart that you had there. It made me wonder, is it harder to call preseason games than it is to call a regular season game because you have to know the third, fourth stringers. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm not going to act like, you know, as I go through this list, if you get down to the third string offensive lineman, that's somebody that I know every twist and turn of their career to this point. I think the fun of it is being able to kind of pull back and look at the league at times.

2:16:35Look at the division that they're in. We've got an AFC South team playing an AFC West team. I'm sure at some point we're going to look at Kansas City and Denver, who we have week one in the regular season schedule. I think it affords you. It's almost like doing a baseball all-star game. There's not a ton of strategy involved in this game we're going to be doing on Thursday night. So you start looking for individual performances and somebody will stand out and then you kind of ride that for a little bit but then you go back to okay we're gonna see more homes and nicks week one how good's kansas city gonna be how good's denver gonna be and you can kind of take your focus off the game a little bit and if somebody jumps up you cover them and then you go back to what you're doing so it's there's a lot of names a lot of numbers you hope to get most of them right and then you just try to have fun for three hours and point your way toward week one can i ask you a sports jeopardy question yeah i'll get it wrong no no no no i meant about sports jeopardy that you hosted oh yeah yeah go yeah sure why did some of those people

2:17:43PFT Commenter:sign up you have to ask them i have no idea that was some i watched a couple episodes and there were there were some people didn't know anything about sports well i think i i do think this in their defense and I would probably have been in the same category I think the hard thing about Jeopardy it's like doing a crossword puzzle you have to get into what they're really asking you have to true have to know kind of you know the rhythm of the clue not a question that I give if you sat down in a library with a number two lead pencil you could probably come up with the answer. But when you're on the on the stage, and you have to hit the buzzer, if they hit the buzzer before I stop reading the clue, it freezes them out and they have to reset.

2:18:34So they're doing all that. They're listening to me as I hack my way through the clue. They're reading it on the board. And I think it's it's easy to get lost in what the clues actually asking for. Sometimes if you could do it without the pressure you could probably come up with the right answer yeah

2:18:52PFT Commenter:I'm not a trivia I'm not a trivia master by any stretch terrible terrible but there was a couple like I it made me feel smart like I think there was one moment where it was just a picture of Mark Davis and it was like who is this and I was like yeah I know Mark Davis you can spot that haircut from a mile away so I felt like a genius I was like yeah this is awesome I'm so smart Yes, I agree. And by the way, when I was reading the clue, I didn't realize what was on the screen because the board is kind of around. So there were some pictures to kind of help you along. Yeah, that I wasn't even aware were up when I was doing it.

2:19:31But I think the fun of it, I hope, is that the people who didn't do really well had fun and laughed at themselves and laughed at each other. And I thought there was fun to be had between the contestants. Definitely. So, I mean, if you can't get the right answer, have fun giving the wrong answer. And I felt like most people did that.

2:19:56PFT Commenter:Yeah, it just sucked. when we do a trivia league here like i hated doing it because i was like would get things wrong and just be like how did i get that wrong like how did i not know that and then you think of it later and you're like god damn it i'm so stupid can you do can you put a request in from me since i did this and i wrote the forward to your book sure all right it wasn't that hard of you to write that let's just know it's where you dictate it yeah you dictate you called up our ghostwriter you said have that dictate yeah yeah i i would it took 15 minutes for you to jump on the word dictate i can't believe it uh but on on your instagram yeah when whoever that is is going around asking like hey uh what what logo missouri has one coat can you put the friggin answer further up in the thing so I don't have to watch the whole goddamn thing.

2:20:45Welcome to the internet, Joe Vox. That's a trick, Joe.

2:20:48PFT Commenter:That's a trick. And then you got to go in the comments to find the answer. Oh, my God. Which one was it that sent you off? Joe, I'll send you one that's good. Every one of them. There's not one that doesn't send me. There's only a couple that I've ever gotten right. I'll send you one that's going to trigger you, Joe. I think it was last week. He went around. Chaps went around. It was like, what state is it? It was Missouri. And like half the office didn't get it. Yeah. It was just the outline of Missouri. We're just getting so bad. Oh, the outline of the state? The state of Missouri, and they're like, I don't know.

2:21:23PFT Commenter:I mean, come on. We're not the smartest group. Aren't you in Illinois right now? Yeah, no, no. Listen, it doesn't make sense, but there is a – it's very funny because I think there's a divide. It's about the 25-year-old and lower mark in this office. I don't think they ever took a geography class. Like, straight up did not take a geography class. Well, straight up, I didn't either. And I went to a little prep school in St. Louis. And I remember when my daughter, my 27 year old was going through and she did geography, a geography class. Like, I didn't know any of this. And it's not just the map of the United States.

2:21:57It's around the world. I was blown away by what's taught in a geography class. We never had it. In the roaring 80s, I never had a geography class. And if you gave me all the states in the Northeast and the states in the Northwest, I would struggle. Middle of the country, I think I could do.

2:22:17Big Cat:Yeah, I was thinking about that the other day because I don't think I took a geography class either. I think if you know geography, it's mostly people that just like are interested in maps and spend their own time looking at a map. Yeah, Al Michaels. so when the earthquake World Series happened part of the thing was he's brilliant at knowing he's a map guy and maybe that's good for the brain I hope that I'm half as good as Al Michaels when I'm at that stage of my career which I will not be my career will be over by then but he's a map guy I've never heard of a map guy other than maybe Magellan uh and al michaels but al michaels and magellan people yeah i was like sit around studying maps i just no that's i know that's why netflix was created i mean the amount of people in the office that guess africa as a country in those things that's always concerning to me it's every time yeah i yeah that i don't know that kind of bleeds over from geography to like a an understanding of the world yes yes correct yes there's that there's that line of like i'm

2:23:29PFT Commenter:bad at geography it's like no no do you even know like the seven continents yeah yeah i think that's fair yeah uh-huh trivia is hard trivia is hard it's hard it's hard the lesson to be learned is never go on a trivia show yeah europe okay trivia is hard trivia is hard i got some of antarctica yeah so i can't wait to see what awful announcing uh calls out of this it's going to be i can't wait to click on that website and see a recap of my hbo show i think it's like pft said it's when you told our ghostwriter how's my dictate no that's it that's that's my big takeaway for

2:24:07Big Cat:this and he was like it was really good joe and you're like you're damn right it was you're goddamn right it was um what you want to talk nfl just like a little bit of nfl this

2:24:16PFT Commenter:season because you do have the super bowl a touch yeah we do they have it yeah is it joe is this

2:24:21Big Cat:like have you thought because you mentioned like you're not going to be doing this when you're as old as al have you thought about retiring like when what's the goal age for you to walk away no stop talking so many i i have i have so many uh financial obligations to family and friends i'm not stopping anytime yeah that's good that's good we're stuck with you i love it that's a really good because like i i have kind of the only motivating thing in my life is to satisfy the needs of family and friends yeah therefore they will shove me out of the door and onto an airplane

2:24:55PFT Commenter:to go somewhere listen i'm i'm not uh in in the book i did my 10 uh gambling rules but like when people like hey when are you gonna slow down it's like when i have enough money that i can uh lose it all and then die so like i don't want to i don't want to lose it all like you know a year short of dying. Why are you going to lose it? Well, because I'm a losing gambler. Like, what do you mean? I'm a losing gambler. So gambling. Yeah, I want to have enough money so that I can basically, like, my last bet will be, like, on my deathbed. It's like, there we go. Did it perfectly. That would be an amazing example of preparation.

2:25:31It's a life. Timing.

2:25:32PFT Commenter:Yeah, it's a life lived correctly where it's like, all right, there it is. You just go out. The counter's on zero. zeroes all around the texans didn't cover in that preseason game yeah that would be perfect

2:25:46Big Cat:that would be perfect how much gambling debt do you have right now how long is that going to take zero thank god all right good to know that's not my problem my problem is hair plugs yeah yeah those are expensive i know we know we read your book that's not a that's not a cheap endeavor yeah so i know in my next life i'm going to come back as a hair transplant surgeon yeah you should

2:26:08PFT Commenter:go to turkey with our guys we send it we send a bunch of uh guys from our office to turkey every single year actually like your christmas present to your staff yeah kind of joe i gotta i gotta

2:26:17Big Cat:hack for it because i got him too um you should get the people that do them to pay you to do them if you say where you got them from uh i yeah i've kind of i've dabbled in that my guy's parser mojave out in in cal in california he's fantastic joe isn't that so funny that we've known each other

2:26:35PFT Commenter:long enough now that pft has we started this whole relationship of making fun of your hair plugs and now he has hair plugs well we started this whole relationship with you making fun of the size of my forehead so that i then took measures to try and shrink my forehead don't blame your addiction on big cat that's not fair and also sometimes i think you're winking at me confirm that i can't you know like you know that brief that brief second when you welcome everyone in and you kind of give a little smirk i think you know we've all we've come at the same time before we've you've smiled while i've been taking a picture of you okay uh we're synced up we're synced up we are synced up we are simpatico with your blow-up picture taking and my my what was it snark my my wink but yeah you wink you wink at me you wink at me every now and then sarcastic what was the word my off my off-putting wink yeah no you have a nice little you have a nice little like uh hey i know folks i know yeah yeah welcome in welcome in uh joe can we make uh one

2:27:43Big Cat:one quick wager with you on this year's football season because you will be calling the super bowl on espn what yeah it's a fact if the bears or the commanders make the super bowl can we can we give you a line to sneak in yes oh okay okay i love it's gotta be but but okay but it can't be absurd because i was gonna do something yeah you your knee jerk there was so off you were you're like yeah sure and then you're like hold on wait a second where are these guys This might sound like to say something blue. No, exactly. Blue. There's a word that the kids are using. No. It's all within the same interview.

2:28:27It's got to be something that's normal that I typically say.

2:28:32PFT Commenter:Like, let's say the Bears are playing the Chargers and the Bears are winning. You got to be like, the Bears are effing the Chargers in the B-cheeks. Or car-holing. yeah oh that's a word that's near and dear what about um okay so the commanders are in the super bowl and i love you joe i love that you said yes right away then you're like hold on a second

2:28:53Big Cat:wait a second and jacori cross scores a touchdown and you say i was talking about you say you're talking to oh my god they're gonna make me calm but it's commanded calm c-o-m-m no okay all right

2:29:05PFT Commenter:we'll workshop it hey listen if we if that if that day comes ghost rider come up with some some possibilities um all right joe last question roback question r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts roback.com promo code take uh go buy part of my book i honestly like joe buck might be the you have to do that so that people don't jump through uh ads yeah yeah yeah well no it's always a great question final question really most important part of the whole rollback is yeah yeah that's right but no i would don't

2:29:40Big Cat:act like the nfl doesn't do that like you guys are gonna have like a label like etna on the

2:29:45PFT Commenter:side of the blue injury tent this year probably hey go see this movie real quick all right and back to first down uh yeah come on man but no seriously minions game our relation minions game rocked i love the minions game was it good our relationship with joe though i think is like the epitome if i was like hey how would you describe how this stupid show has kind of come together it's like joe buck is is is like a up there with the stories of guy who had no he you had no reason to come on this show came on the show let us be idiots with you you got you know a a little bump from it we got a huge bump from it and then we became friends and it's like that's why the show works because we all can have fun together yeah i agree and uh it was eye-opening to me and as i've told you every time i come on everywhere i go in this country people come up to me and mention you guys and hey i love you coming on the show and it's it's awesome so it was it was actually my honor i am going to barnes and noble when we disconnect from this to sign one I'm just going to sit outside all day, and I'm going to welcome everybody to Barnes & Noble.

2:30:59I'm going to buy a whole case of these things and hand them out.

2:31:01PFT Commenter:You should sign a couple. That would be funny. Go to Barnes & Noble and actually be like, hey, anyone who wants a part of my book in Colorado, signed by me, Joe Buck. That would be sick. Yeah, that would be not my style, but just to force my autograph on people. Yeah, no, do it.

2:31:21Big Cat:I appreciate it. In fact, I give you or anybody else that's on the cover of this book, you can, anytime you see the book, if it's in an airport, sign your name. Yep. That's fine. Yep. I've done that. When my book was out, I'd go in and sign them.

2:31:32PFT Commenter:That's a baller move. Got arrested, wrestled to the ground one time. I love it. All right, Zach, real quick. Last question. Give it to Joe. How are you doing, Joe? I did have a quick question. If you were to get back in your own personal book game, what are your thoughts on Big Cat and PFT writing the foreword? Oh, God, yeah. You don't want that. No, I know I do. That would be more my audience. I think that's a great question. So if I do, which I won't, would you commit right now to writing the forward to my second book called Lucky Bastard Part Two, Still Lucky and Still a Bastard? Yeah, I'll write four words.

2:32:09PFT Commenter:I'm going to say yes, but in Spanish. I don't know Spanish. Just say hola. the forwards in spanish that's the payback i get the hour i put into this that's el baño la biblioteca is the library la libra es bueno uh por supuesto

2:32:32Big Cat:where do we all baño donde esta la la train station well we'll write the forward train station is ferro carrillo okay good to know look at that we'll write the forward though uh for your

2:32:45PFT Commenter:next book how i how i kicked my my addiction to hair plugs and then relapsed the joe buck story okay yeah i haven't had any since i i wink kicked my he's winking at us right now if you're listening he's winking he's doing the wink i know the way the hair does look good joe look at that it's supple it's fucking great hands through it yeah you could lose some you could actually afford to lose some no that's how it starts that's how it starts then you're back It's just a big hamster wheel of hair. Oh, Joe, you're the best. Thank you for everything. Seriously, truly. We love you. We love you. And we can't wait for football.

2:33:22Congrats on the book. That's a big deal. Thank you. Now, here's the thing. I was a New York Times bestseller because of the weird algorithm that they do. Yeah. I don't really know that that translates to actual financial success.

2:33:38PFT Commenter:But it's cool to say. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like you guys were hitting me with the watch for the ratings. Are you guys going to be on that? We'll guarantee it.

2:33:49Big Cat:Yeah, I hope Dr. Joe Biden's book doesn't sell a single copy this week.

2:33:52PFT Commenter:No, no, we'll guarantee it. We're going to be New York Times bestseller. I'm boycotting it, as a matter of fact. And if we're not, we'll do an update to the book, and we'll call it part of my book a New York Times bestseller. Just misspell time. Yeah, exactly. T-Y-M-E-S. We're an apostrophe. Yeah, we're good. We're good. We got it. all right joe you're the best thanks joe thanks joe joe buck was brought to you by our great

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2:35:58PFT Commenter:okay let's wrap up we got FAQs on pardon my book. What a name for it, huh, boys? We really crushed that. We spent years, really, planning out the name. All right. Sup, guys? Book was incredible. Huge thank you for that. I already read it. Actually, I did see some people get it like two days ago, and it is a book you can breeze through. When you guys use huge words like ombudsman, do you look at Google search results trends or to see how dumb the AWLs are? Also, why don't you guys have an office dog? Did Max shut that down? Thank you, Podgods.

2:36:33Big Cat:I have a dog.

2:36:34PFT Commenter:There's a lot of people on this show that don't have a dog. I do have a dog. Ask him about the office.

2:36:38Big Cat:Mike Vick had lots of dogs, Max.

2:36:41PFT Commenter:My dog does not fight. Checkmate. My dog is very safe. Office dog would be a terrible idea. Yeah. That dog would be... It would be good to pet...

2:36:53Big Cat:Day one, the office dog would be great. And then you'd have to figure out who's actually taking care of it. Yeah.

2:36:59PFT Commenter:I mean, we could barely... We had to give away our office turtle.

2:37:03Big Cat:Yeah. Memes. Well, that's not true. That was well taken care of. Should we get a goldfish again this year? Or let's call it trash. I mean, I think you just read... You wrote the chapter on Larry, and you were like, what if we have another one? Zach. There's never going to be another Larry. Zach, could you keep a goldfish alive?

2:37:18PFT Commenter:A goldfish? How about a dog instead? Dog, I'm not sure. I'll say it. I don't know about... I would love to keep a... I'd love to just see how a goldfish does for a couple weeks. let's talk about it later okay fair but it would be nice would be nice hey danielle erica henrietta maxine z and mimi mimi that's my grandma's name okay who is your favorite recurring guest who is not featured in the book oh like that didn't write a chapter Julian Edel Greg Olson maybe Stanford Steve Kyle Schwarber Picron Armstrong Joe Missoula Yeah Missoula chapter would have been good Yeah I mean we We couldn't do a million Because it would have just made the book Like 7 ,000 pages long But yeah there's definitely some people I was like shit We should have had them write a chapter Rick Pitino Just a sentence Booger We should have Booger Write a chapter Yeah Next book Stavi Stavi would have Yeah Would have been good Would have been good I parentheses We need The full 24 hour rundown Of the LSU championship Title game How the Coach Owen Burrow Interviews somehow Still happened All time rally From everyone involved 10 time AWL Andre From Nashville Okay

2:38:45Big Cat:2000 What 2019 20

2:38:50PFT Commenter:technically yeah right before COVID yeah we LSU won um I think we all bet a lot on LSU to win we went out um we started we went and saw our friend Derek who is Cocho's uh right-hand man and he at that point was like I think he said to me he's like hey I'll text you if this can actually happen and I was like there's just no way and then we went out all night at one point we were at a bar and it was like us jay cutler and anthony rizzo all hanging out and uh stanford

2:39:27Big Cat:steve and stavar cv yeah it's long yeah and chris long yes i tried i tried to wrestle stanford steve

2:39:33PFT Commenter:yeah that didn't go well and then i want to say we got home around like two or three in the morning and uh i think i i set an alarm for like super early and i woke up and then derrick text was like it's a go you got to be here at this time and we can do it i and it was just like mad dash we carried this stuff there right and it was just a it was a we were so drunk we were still so drunk

2:40:01Big Cat:i think it was like eight in the morning i think i at some point hung out with maybe steve levy that night yeah he was in one of the bars he was there then i remember i was at that bar with chris long and stanford steve and rizzo and tommy alter was there yeah and i think me and tommy were like it's time to go i recall that being about 4 a.m yeah and i looked at my phone and i think that's

2:40:24PFT Commenter:when you texted interview oh so it was happened yeah it might have happened at the end of the night yeah before i went to sleep but it was it i i want to say it was like maybe three hours of sleep yeah fully drunk and then carrying our stuff to the hotel and derek who's the man absolute legend uh was basically like here's the room set up our bus leaves at nine you guys get you know joe will come in at eight coach oh will come in at 8 20 that's what i got for you and we're like we can make it work and yeah it was i mean to get that was a big pinch me moment too where it's like these guys just won a national title and we're getting to interview them and

2:41:04Big Cat:we're fucked up yeah very cool and then i remember when when coach oh got done with the interview he walked down to the hallway and started screaming at everybody like you're gonna miss the bus get on the bus he was angry at his team like hey like coach i don't think they care yeah right now they just won um and then later on we were doing the podcast in one of the hotel rooms i remember puking during that i was so hung over yep throwing up during the podcast that we did afterwards yep it was a good time it was a great time i don't think that we'd be able to pull that off right now not in terms of like doing getting the interviews the day after but being able to rally from 4 a.m.

2:41:38Big Cat:to functioning at 7 a.m. Yeah. That's a young man's game.

2:41:43PFT Commenter:All right, last one. What's up, boys? Have you ever seriously considered lowering the number of shows every week? I know it's something AWS like. Me always look forward to knowing. I'll always have Monday, Wednesday, Friday. But you can't deny that when most people get your amount of success, they would want to ease off the gas a little bit. Thanks, boys. Love you guys.

2:42:01Big Cat:I mean, it's not the same, but during football season, we do no guests. on Mondays. So it's like, that's less guests that we have to do. And, and is a little bit of a lighter load for us. Yeah. We've,

2:42:14PFT Commenter:we've toyed with maybe doing, and maybe AWS can, can tell us what they think, but like we had no guests on Friday. I think people really liked that episode. We've toyed with maybe doing no guests Mondays in the off season as well. Obviously there's certain what, like masters SVP, you know, selection Sunday, John, like there's certain Mondays. It's like, we're still going to have a guest, but maybe being like, Hey, let's have some more looser episodes on Monday. But I don't... I've never felt like it's like, oh my God, this is too much.

2:42:43Big Cat:Yeah.

2:42:44PFT Commenter:I've never felt like, oh fuck, we ran out of shit to talk about. If we did two episodes a week, each episode would be like four hours.

2:42:55Big Cat:Yeah, they'd be long. They'd be so long. And also if we did two episodes a week, that does add up. Yeah. One fewer episode a week, four fewer a month. What's four times 12? 48 fewer a year. like that is it that would be a difference in terms of like total downloads no we we love doing it and it's like it doesn't it's not to the point where it feels like it's an effort to do three episodes a week it feels like the natural the right amount i also i'll i'll say it it's probably

2:43:18PFT Commenter:a sick mindset but i take uh incredible pride in the fact that like there's a lot of other shows that take like a week or two weeks or like a full month off in the summer and we don't i i take pride in that because i think that we're a show that people we become part of their lives monday wednesday friday and if we broke it for two weeks they'd go find something else and then it'd be harder to get them back so yeah i take pride in that and like we obviously do a good job of like you know the tim woods episodes which we love doing uh dingers only stuff like that around holidays and stuff but yeah i fucking love it i love doing it i think you guys do too right All right.

2:43:57PFT Commenter:Good show, boys. Go buy a book. Let's do numbers. Five. No.

2:44:02Big Cat:55.

2:44:03PFT Commenter:No, no.

2:44:04Big Cat:Double no. Seven. I think during football, I might do my top five quarterbacks. 63. And Jaden's always number five. 69.

2:44:17PFT Commenter:10. I'm going to go with 70.

2:44:23Big Cat:70. Just 70. 70-70? Just 70. That's not in there. 70-70 is not in there. You go 99. That'd be a huge lottery.

2:44:31PFT Commenter:For Pug? For J.J. Watt. Shut up, Pug.

2:44:34Big Cat:Oh, the Pug click. I missed Pug.

2:44:38PFT Commenter:15 for Jacob.

2:44:40Big Cat:15 for Jacob. Colton's got 69. 69 is coming for Colton. 99.

2:44:54Oh. 93.

2:44:59PFT Commenter:One more? One more.

2:45:00Big Cat:Not even close. Not even close. Close.

2:45:19PFT Commenter:I see now. I see.

2:45:29PFT Commenter:59 59

2:45:34Big Cat:Sorry, Colton Happy birthday to Bucky Irving Happy birthday to Kirk Cousins, Patrick Chung Morton Anderson The Goat Kirk Herbstreet Bill Clinton Happy birthday to John Stamos Also, happy birthday to Ethan, click me on this. I still don't know how to pronounce your name, bro, but you were awesome. Happy birthday to Mitch Trubisky.

2:46:00PFT Commenter:Kissing titties.

2:46:01Big Cat:Kissing titties. Happy birthday to Fred Durst.

2:46:04PFT Commenter:Come on.

2:46:06Big Cat:Love you guys.

2:46:23Thank you.

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2:47:58Thank you.