Playoff Baseball, CFB With Brandon Walker, Ole Miss Head Coach Lane Kiffin, Jets And Bengals Are A Disaster + Guys On Chicks

14:30Big Cat:Your children on the sidelines, they don't know that the Cubs just won a playoff game. I was just like,

14:35PFT Commenter:that was really fun and now I'm here and basically making sure my daughter doesn't kill herself on the playground. The third game, another Hoss, crochet Hank, unbelievable. He had 14 straight outs? Yeah, he had the ball and a string it's beautiful beautiful thing to watch so were you nervous at all in this game because it was what uh one one solo home run for the yankees and then the the red sox actually played like good playoff baseball manufacturing some runs yeah so guard yeah this is this is this is pink hat henry or newcomer henry i was always under the impression that aaron judge had an absolute cannon uh and then so guard ran out a single into a double and everyone was like yeah They knew like judge's arm is a noodle arm now and he can't throw and like made him, you know, we look stupid, but he got hurt.

15:27PFT Commenter:That's news to me. I guess that's, yeah. Yeah. So, and then manufactured runs and the, the ninth inning was interesting because Chapman came in, in the eighth for one out and then back in the ninth and he loaded the bases with no outs and the Yankees didn't score any runs. the weirdest part was did you hear the broadcast being like he's not sweating yet yeah i don't know what that was all that was so usually he's sweating a lot and he hasn't sweat he's not sweating yet and then he loaded the bases and he they're like look he's sweating now

16:06Big Cat:and then he just mowed everyone down by the way the entire broadcast the audio for that broadcast i don't know what was going on where it sounded like there was a hand grenade going off every time there was an out did you guys hear that yeah because like i heard a lot of people saying oh i thought that was just on my tv it was it was unlistable i had to turn the sound almost all the way down for the entire game i don't know what they had if they had a mic on first base if they if the crowd was just redlining i don't know what it was but espn's got to figure that

16:36PFT Commenter:shit out yeah stop mutings crowd noise and figure out the hand grenade situation

16:42Big Cat:pretty terrible but yeah i mean went out there pissed down his leg immediately and then and then just settled in but i saw a stat that the yankees are the first team in postseason history to load the bases with nobody out in the bottom of the ninth but not score a run and lose the game

16:57PFT Commenter:jesus pretty crazy jesus yeah judge did have a big red sox fans yeah he did yeah he ripped that

17:06Big Cat:one nicely up the middle he had a huge single um are you field reporter but now pmt field reporter

17:12PFT Commenter:gas was there he said it was fenway south so that was that was good to hear a lot of red socks fans

17:16Big Cat:oh yeah wait what was your question pft panic button like what what is the panic meter for

17:23PFT Commenter:a yankees fan right now i mean the three game series thing is crazy it really is like the because i'm sitting here you know the cubs are up 1-0 and i'm like oh this is great like obviously you still there's two more games but it's just being down a one and having an elimination game like that is it's crazy so the panic button button's got to be way out and i think i i just saw like my uh twitter explode with just people being like aaron boone's the dumbest person ever i was like oh it's october that was literally the turning of the clocks because i saw that

17:56Big Cat:extend boone was trending again i agree we've always said that about aaron but listen you got to give the man some time to implement his systems you got to have a steady hand guiding the the new york yankees through a tumultuous time in baseball aaron boone's the guy keep him around yeah uh so

18:14PFT Commenter:i my my last question about this game was did we did we find a hack on live betting uh chapman with the sweating thing because the announcers called it out and they were actually correct that he did start to sweat and then he started to pitch well is there a chance that maybe after he pitched in the eighth inning he used a towel maybe i don't know i don't know but he need the guy needs sweat on him to perform he is a sweaty guy they are right about that but i didn't like i wasn't watching close enough to be like oh shit he doesn't have any sweat on him

18:51Big Cat:yeah that doesn't that doesn't really hold up i i don't know i don't know it's a very weird thing for the announcers to zero in on i was wondering why they're making a big deal out of it but uh yeah if he doesn't sweat yeah i'll load up on him yeah um all right uh the last game uh

19:06PFT Commenter:which is still in the seventh inning but we're calling it early the dodgers are so fucking unfair they're so good they're like just to even start this game with show a hitting a leadoff home run it's like oh like that might be the fastest that a team's ever been eliminated he smacked the shit out of that ball too that ball was gone and then he hit another one and then t oscar hernandez hit two and it's just like and then freddie freeman hit a double it's just they just the waves of dodger hitters are just insane and now the reds obviously are not you know it's a little bit of a mismatch a great story that the reds are in the playoffs but the dodgers look and then blake snell i think it was his first time i gotta try to find that stat i think it was his first time going uh into the sixth in a playoff game and he was electric as well so it's like if he starts pitching like an absolute hoss yeah he's probably too skinny to be a hoss for the first time jeff passed and said for the first time in his career blake snell was thrown a six inning six innings in a postseason game and they've been phenomenal.

20:11PFT Commenter:One hit, one walk, nine strikeouts, only 70 pitches. He gave up a run in the seventh, but yeah, he was lights out. Yeah, I agree.

20:19Big Cat:I don't think that he's a hostile. He's too small. He's a pony.

20:23PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right. Any

20:24Big Cat:back-to-back Jackson, that game was awesome too. Rob Lowe, shout out Rob Lowe in the crowd tonight. Yep. They showed him. Then they showed Bateman. They started running out of celebrities. There were so many home runs.

20:34PFT Commenter:Yeah.

20:35Big Cat:I did not know. I did not know this because somebody sent it to me. Did you know that Rob Lowe is a he grew up a diehard Cincinnati Reds fan. Is he from Ohio? Yeah. I think I did.

20:46PFT Commenter:I think I did know that.

20:48Big Cat:He was like he was like taunting the Reds after the back to back home runs despite the fact that you know I'm going to give Rob Lowe a pass on. Did he have his MLB hat on? He did not. He was wearing a normal hat. I photoshopped the Major League Baseball umpires logo onto it though. Nice. So pretty much. um but yeah if i was rob low in that situation so if you're beating the shit out of the reds the team that you love growing up i probably wouldn't be like demanding the camera put me on

21:16PFT Commenter:no i mean the reds are just it's a nice story we'll see hey listen game two you never know what's going to happen because that is the the the beauty going back to the three game format the reds win all the pressures back on the dodgers so you never know yeah like all these things could flip.

21:32Big Cat:Memes, I got a question for you. You don't think so?

21:34PFT Commenter:Max doesn't think so. Max is shaking his head.

21:38Brandon Walker:Well, there's also, like, I think there's a stat that the team that wins the game one of the wildcard series goes on the win 92 % of the time.

21:45Big Cat:Oh,

21:46PFT Commenter:shit.

21:47Big Cat:Yeah. Probably because they're the better team, and also they're at home, and they're up 1-0.

21:52PFT Commenter:Well, it's not always the home team. And the Reds fucking suck.

21:58Big Cat:Memes, I got a question for you regarding the Reds. are you actively rooting against the reds right now uh yeah this is a nice hate watch for me

22:07Brandon Walker:mm-hmm so tonight they got to be the sacrificial lamb were you happy that the jets official twitter

22:15PFT Commenter:account jinx the yankees with the good luck yeah yeah that that's also a nice hate watch i'm hate

22:25Brandon Walker:watching the entire playoffs.

22:26Big Cat:Hank, you seem skeptical when Meme said that he was rooting against the Reds. The Reds stole the Mets spot.

22:37PFT Commenter:But the Mets could have. The Mets stole their own spot. They played themselves out there. Also true. Also true. It's not like the Reds beat the Mets in a season-ending series. But it does have to feel a little bit better watching the Dodgers

22:52Brandon Walker:just be insane and being like the Mets wouldn't have won this series all in LA. Yeah. The Mets couldn't win on the road against anybody this year. There's no way they were winning this series in LA.

23:04PFT Commenter:Yeah. We'll never know though. You never know. Guess we'll never know. I think Meme should get to hate watch whatever he wants. Let him hate watch the fuck out of these playoffs. No, yeah. I'm backing. I'm defending him. I'm like, this is a good watch. This is a good watch.

23:20Big Cat:I'm okay with it. Yeah. Cubs and the parents. Memes needs to get his hate out on something. Yeah, Max is scared.

23:25PFT Commenter:You guys are scared of the hate watch. What? We're scared of the hate watch? Scared to be on the memes' bad side of a hate watch. I think I am on the bad side of a hate watch.

23:36Brandon Walker:Yeah. Yeah. We're all on the hate watch.

23:39PFT Commenter:Yeah.

23:40Brandon Walker:You're just lucky he's playing the Yankees.

23:42PFT Commenter:I know. He wants to hate watch both the Red Sox and the Yankees. You're next up, buddy. I'm the only one who's getting hate watched right now, but your guys are both going to be up. He's hate watching. He's rooting for the pods. Yeah, but I'm also rooting for Chicago, living Chicago. But no, you're not. You're rooting for the Padres. What are you talking about? You want everyone in the office to be happy. You want everyone in the office to be happy. It's fine. That's a great thing about sports. Hate watch the fuck out of these playoffs.

24:15Big Cat:Yeah, if you're miserable, you want everybody else around you to be just as miserable as you are. I'm going to be honest.

24:20Brandon Walker:Everyone was rooting for the Guardians in the cave. I wanted them to lose. So, Memes, what's your perfect World Series then?

24:30PFT Commenter:Would it be like Brewers versus Blue Jays?

24:34Brandon Walker:Mariners. I'm rooting for the Mariners. Okay. Seattle. Good sports sound.

24:39PFT Commenter:Okay.

24:41Brandon Walker:I'll go Cubs or Brewers.

24:44Big Cat:Okay. You don't mean that. You don't mean that. I know. He means Brewers. That was just an omission.

24:49PFT Commenter:it's fine Cubs losing in 7 would be that's the ultimate hate watch it is I respect your hate watch two things before we kick it to ourselves like I said we have Brandon Walker and Lane Kiffin one is it Dylan Gabriel time yes I think it is right it's going to be it's about to be it's sad but it's time do you think it might be a mistake to do the Dylan Gabriel time when they have to fly to Europe and play against a Brian Flores defense?

25:24Big Cat:Brian Flores is very happy that this is happening. He's going to blitz the fuck out of him. That traditionally works well in England, and it's going to be a tough start for him. But the good news is the Vikings don't really have a great answer at quarterback right now. The Browns defense is awesome, too.

25:42PFT Commenter:Yeah.

25:43Big Cat:So it's going to be I think it's going to be a winnable game for him. I don't think that either team is going to blow the other one out. So I'd say like in a weird way, it's almost less pressure doing it overseas than it would be doing it back at home. True. True.

25:58PFT Commenter:No one's going to watch.

25:59Big Cat:We're all going to watch. Yeah. It is going to be this. This might be the Lunder of the year.

26:05PFT Commenter:Yes, I'd agree, but it might be too obvious.

26:09Big Cat:It might be like a 10 to 2

26:12PFT Commenter:game but it might be so obvious i psych myself out and take the over and then watch the 10 to

26:17Big Cat:two game and be like why are you so stupid guess the over under i'm gonna guess it can't be more than 40 37 and a half i was gonna say i was gonna say 37 flat it can't be over 40 sports book

26:37PFT Commenter:it's it's 36 and a half oh wow we're both off it's lower than we both thought so i love that though it's a challenge no that means our statistical model says we got to take the over by a point yeah but yeah we had 37 and 37 and a half um okay and the other thing i had was uh anyone want to take a shot zach why don't you take a shot at uh explaining what's going on on the WNBA right now. I do not understand it, but I just saw a lot of tweets about it.

27:06Brandon Walker:Is it regarding the WNBA saying that the only reason Caitlin Clark is getting her advertisements is because of the WNBA? Is that what we're talking about? I think it was Nafisa. Yeah, that was, I think that was a bold statement. Okay. By the WNBA.

27:21Big Cat:Okay. So there we go. Wait, a bold statement by the players or by the league? What was that? Who made the bold statement? Was it the players?

27:32Brandon Walker:I think the league saying that the league is responsible for all of Caitlin Clark's brand deals is crazy. Okay.

27:37PFT Commenter:Insane. Yeah. Agreed. I don't know if the league said it. I think it was Nafisa said it. Nafisa. I retract that Nafisa.

27:45Big Cat:Wild saying from Nafisa.

27:46Brandon Walker:I don't want to put that on the league.

27:48Big Cat:Wait, I thought Nafisa said that the league told her that. Oh, okay.

27:54PFT Commenter:Go back, Zach. This is some really good high-level talk. It's on the league and Nafisa. This is where we get into idiot jazz. Yeah. So it's the league through Nafisa.

28:04Big Cat:Yes, I believe Nafisa was speaking to the league and complaining about the young players and the pay scale. And then the league said to Nafisa, you're lucky that you guys get those endorsements because we bring you those endorsements. And then Nafisa said the league said that. And then everyone was like, that was wild for the league to tell Nafisa that.

28:25PFT Commenter:Oh, so Nafisa wasn't going after Caitlin Clark. I don't think so. Okay, so the league was basically being like, you and Kaitlin Clark are lucky you have us.

28:38Big Cat:All right, so I'm going to do the audience a favor by reading one article about this. Okay, all right. I think I agree with everything Collier said. That's Nafisa. Okay. Said Lexi Hall, the Fever's alternate player rep for the WNBPA. Wait. We're at a really important time in the league and changes need to be made. And so you're seeing her talk about that and proud of her for making that statement today.

29:05PFT Commenter:Wait, PFT, read a full article to yourself and then while memes ranks his hate watch teams. And then come back to us with the summary. Memes, hate watch teams, who you're rooting for to lose in the most sad, like torturous fashion and then go down from there. or or you yeah or just which where you want our teams to lose in the playoff yeah and how

29:32Brandon Walker:yeah um all right so number one i'll go with phillies okay hate the phillies would like uh i would like them to go nine innings each time get walked off each time wait in the in the ds

29:47PFT Commenter:by the dodgers oh okay okay walked off in nine innings so sweep though yeah sweet okay a walk-off sweet that's impossible but continue yankees number two oh yeah that is impossible shit

30:04Brandon Walker:the first two games are at home uh yankees number two okay i would like also to take them out tomorrow but it's like 10 10 to nothing that's ideal keep going um i'll go i'll throw blue jays at three oh nice canada boo okay uh memes you walked into the office today and looked

30:31PFT Commenter:at big cat and said let's go pods yeah no you have the trustee the trustee branched together yeah we did come back together but that's a little preview for later but you can throw the cubs in there where do you want the cubs to lose you want to also get walked off by the dodgers Game 7 World Series Okay to who? The Mariners? To the Mariners Okay what about the Red Sox? I love my Wrigley it'll be fun

30:57Brandon Walker:I don't hate the Red Sox that bad We'll put them at 5

31:01PFT Commenter:Okay but how do you want them to lose? To the Mariners Yes Okay Anyone else? Dodgers?

31:14PFT Commenter:Dodgers?

31:16Big Cat:yeah they get fucked okay uh nlcs to the cubs

31:24PFT Commenter:this is great this is great someone needs to make the hate watch mariners over mariners over cubs parlayed with the the cubs over the dodgers parlayed with the dodgers on all walk-off home runs against the phillies yep which is impossible which is impossible.

31:45Big Cat:A very sweep of walk-off home runs over the Phillies would be so good for this program.

31:50PFT Commenter:No, yeah. It's impossible. No, hold on. Hold on. What memes? No, we can workshop this memes. What if game one and two is the exact same catch robbing a home run walk-off? You like that? And then game three is a walk-off. Game three is a walk-off. Exact same ball hit to the exact same spot and the philly center fielder doesn't catch it bounces off his head yeah so all three

32:22Brandon Walker:are exactly the same this is i hate that you this is such bullshit that you're even like manifesting this into the world i mean fact or fiction we're not manifesting yeah we're not

32:35Big Cat:manifesting you're speaking it into existence right now the hate watch he wants a hate watch

32:42PFT Commenter:all right max if that exact scenario happens in three games i will give you one million dollars cash okay okay i'll match it it has to be the ball has to be hit the exact same place three times in a row to end the game two of them catches over the wall one of them hitting a guy

33:02Brandon Walker:in the head and going over the wall no thank you million dollars cash if i had the choice

33:11PFT Commenter:imagine if we get what if we get to game three and it happened in game one and two and max is just rooting for it and it doesn't hit him in the head max you have to say you have to tell us right now do you accept it do you accept the two million dollars i do not accept the two million dollars

33:27Brandon Walker:Okay,$5 million.

33:31PFT Commenter:Okay, I'll take the five.

33:33Big Cat:Okay, all right. You're a fucking moron for not accepting$2 million. Where's your price? You just got five.

33:39PFT Commenter:I just got five, so how am I a moron? Yeah, good job.

33:43Brandon Walker:Good negotiating. In that moment, I still will be like, I want this ball to be a home run for sure.

33:51PFT Commenter:You mean, yeah? Yeah, yeah, of course.

33:53Brandon Walker:Of course, if it got if it got to that third game and it was like you either get five million dollars or or the walk off home run in my favor, I would take the walk off home run.

34:04PFT Commenter:Although, listen, if this happens, this clip will just be we'll just market ourselves as as fortune tellers and we'll make it will pay for itself. This clip be more than five million dollars. All right. PFT finishes off with the WNBA report. All right.

34:20Big Cat:So here's the news. I think I was right about this. So Nafisa Collier is the head of the WNBPA. That's the WNBA Players Association. She's the player rep. She met with the commissioner, Kathy Engelbert, called her negligent. Kathy Engelbert fired back at her, made some allusions to the fact that the young players, instead of asking for more money, should be happy with the sponsorship deals that the league brings into them to which nefisa collier or apparently fee as she's called uh made that statement publicly known to the rest of her to all the other player reps and they all agreed with her like this lady kathy engelbert is full of shit we got your back fee page buchers posted a story on Instagram that said Queen Fee.

35:10Big Cat:It was a picture of Naveesa Collier. And Elena Del Dunn posted on Instagram as well. And she said, it's the care for the human part for me. I'm still not sure if Kathy knows I retired. Oh. So, yeah, they don't like bottom line is they hate Kathy. Kathy, you got to get out of town. EDD is my goat. EDD is great.

35:35PFT Commenter:Yeah.

35:35Big Cat:I'm a paid Buker guy. I'm a PB guy.

35:37PFT Commenter:Yeah. damn okay so we got some we got some tumultuous things happening so yeah uh i guess are we an anti kathy podcast no fuck kathy fuck kathy fuck her she's a bitch and the horse she rode in on yeah i don't like her yeah yeah there we go zach hater hater zach what are your thoughts regarding kathy out on kathy if the wmba wants to pay us a ton of money to say pro wmba things we will accept yeah i'll switch up real quick yeah real fast kathy as of right exactly hey kathy you hear that hear what zach just did that's a little preview of what we can do for you pay up all right uh let's kick it to ourselves in studio great rest of the show it's 2026 getting your protein fix should be easy with tropical smoothie cafe's new protein blends they're made with real ingredients like Chobani Greek yogurt and get it up to 30 grams of protein.

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37:09Big Cat:Yeah if you're gonna have two bad games I would like for One to be so bad that it turns Good yeah and it was just kind of two bad Games that were bad yeah boring bad We learned something Last night okay Joe Burrow might be the best athlete To ever play sports okay yeah I was gonna say like Joe Burrow for MVP I've heard people say that I think it goes past that.

37:31PFT Commenter:Yeah, so let's start with that game. The big takeaway from that game, well, there's two takeaways in my opinion. One is the Broncos needed that game. Bo Nix back on track. That was the Broncos' offensive output that they were hoping for in the first three weeks. They looked sensational. Their defense looked awesome. Sean Payton got his first 100-yard rusher out in Denver. Yep, yep. So it was like basically everything worked for the Broncos. It was a no-doubter. And like I said, Bo Nix getting a little comfortable. Well, Cortland Sutton's really fucking good. I mean, they have guys everywhere. It feels like the Broncos have a ton of team speed.

38:04Big Cat:Do they have guys at every level? They do. Think about all the levels they got. Offensive line, I'd say, what's his name, Quinn Miners? Yep. That's a guy at that level. Yep. They got a guy at the receiver level. They might have two because they've got a great blocking receiver too. What's that guy's name? Young guy. Threw a great block. Anyways, he's great. Then they've got maybe two guys at the running back level. Yep. And they've got Bo Nix at the quarterback level. And then we can talk about their defense just being awesome.

38:31PFT Commenter:Their defense is awesome. Their defensive line gets after the passer. Their secondary is awesome. The Broncos, this was the game they needed. Yeah. And then on the other side, we got to figure out the Bengals situation. We cannot watch more primetime games with these Bengals. The Bengals right now in the last two games, they've had 22 drives on offense. 14 of those drives have ended in a punt five of them in a turnover so 19 out of 22 drives their last two games have been a turnover or a punt that is so so bad and it is so so depressing and it's hard to watch T Higgins and Jamar Chase be like what are we doing and they can't get the ball out

39:14Big Cat:and they can't do anything here's a crazy stat did you know that the Bengals have been outscored 14 to 13 when they're on offense in the last two weeks because Isaiah Rogers because Isaiah Rogers had two yeah two returns for touchdowns it's it's their their offense is down 13 to 14 against

39:34PFT Commenter:opposing teams defenses over the last two weeks yeah it's it's very very brutal to watch and I don't I we have more Bengals primetime games coming up we need Jameis so so badly it does feel like this was also like i i don't know i was like oh yeah the bangles are 2-0 joe burrow's hurt yeah it's he's gonna be out for a long time but maybe they can tread water i no longer think

40:00Big Cat:they can tread oh i i think the rest of the team it's not just jake browning i think the entire team knows that we're fucked here and we can't come back from this hot seat zach taylor it's back maybe because the team didn't look like they were giving any effort at all last night so i i looked it up here's how bad the situation is big cat for the national tv audience so this is why it

40:19PFT Commenter:impacts you at home by the way troy franklin i think was the guy yeah yeah great blocker um

40:26Big Cat:national audience you're going to be subjected to so much bangles over the next month month and a half this impacts you at home even if you're not a bangles fan because you're a psa this is a psa next two weeks they've got the lions and the packers that's going to be the 430 time slot So the national game. Okay. Then Thursday night football against the Steelers. Oh. Then they're going to have a Thanksgiving game. And then they go back to the national game, 430 against the Bills. Then Sunday night football against the Dolphins.

40:59PFT Commenter:Oh, they have the Thanksgiving night game.

41:01Big Cat:This is going to tear families apart. We need Jameis. If you weren't in an argument with your uncle already on Thanksgiving, you will be in an argument with him by the time this game's over because everyone's going to be pissed off. and if you look at the quarterback situation there they've got jake browning mike white brett ripon sean clifford there is a common thread between all those guys they're cheap combined they cost 2.1 million against the cap james makes 3 million for in theory a third string quarterback mike brown does not want to pay a backup backup quarterback a third option quarterback three million dollars could we do a go fund me that's what i put out on twitter last night yeah i think that we can do a go fund me and at least maybe make up the difference between what their combined backups make and what he's going to have to pay jamis winston if mike brown would be open to that yeah because this is it's a national emergency and their

41:57PFT Commenter:offensive line obviously is bad uh so it's going to be tough for any quarterback that plays in cincinnati but at least jamis is going to sling it at least he's going to throw it he's going to

42:07Big Cat:throw it and it's going to be fun and jamar the problem is like jamar chase is checked out right

42:11PFT Commenter:now yeah rightfully so it was i mean it it was frustrating watching the the there was a couple deep shots early that were missed and then just not being able to get the ball out uh it's it's

42:24Big Cat:really bad to the broncos credit they they did play they've got a great secondary and so whether it was riley moss or if it was sertan that was on jamar chase it didn't look like there was a lot of separation going on across the board but still you gotta you gotta at least make us want to watch

42:41PFT Commenter:these primetime games yeah the Bengals uh yeah and I agree like the Broncos that was a statement when I know the Bengals are bad but they needed that and like it feels like the Broncos are back on track two and two uh so in the last two games the Bengals have lost by 25 points plus points had under 200 total yards had under 60 rushing yards been outrushed by 100 plus yards and taken three sacks no other NFL team has done that combo in back-to-back games in the Super Bowl era which it sounds like oh that's a lot of stuff you just listed but still it's basically a lot of stuff being like they're really really bad and there have been a lot of really really bad teams but they are historically bad in the last two games very very bad very very bad bummer to watch uh other game jets dolphins let's start with the dolphins dolphins i gotta give credit to them first of all kind of liked their jerseys yeah like i i they were they were kind of in that realm of not real nfl jerseys like 2k a teenager came up with them in an alternate world but i

43:49Big Cat:i kind of liked them well to hack for nfl teams if you if you have jerseys that you're sick of looking at just make them look as much like the sealers as possible right and then you'll be like

43:57PFT Commenter:oh maybe our defense is good yeah they kind of pop for a night game uh and i will give the dolphins credit they are fighting for that i had them as my bad vibes team their vibes are okay because they they fought hard against the bills they beat the jets tyree kill goes out uh he's gonna be out for the year and maybe even longer he was maybe happy that was weird yeah i mean when i first saw it i

44:24Big Cat:was like yeah he does look like he's pumped to not be playing for the dolphins anymore yeah but then i thought more about it and he like dislocated his knee tore everything probably a lot of weird chemicals and emotions going through his brain at that time he that was actually him i think being a good teammate yeah he was like trying to pump his boys up mike mcdaniel after the game said that he that tyreek said like go out there and get this win for me which if my knee got destroyed like that

44:48PFT Commenter:i would i would be like fuck all you guys yeah yeah the uh is tyreek hill a better football player with one leg than person yeah probably right it was funny I was I was noticing yes when he got hurt you know when a guy gets really badly hurt in a primetime game and there's a lot of oh man I feel so bad for him oh that's so brutal it was more just damn that leg looked bad yeah that was kind of all it wasn't like oh man poor Tyree it was just that that was a nasty injury I think

45:23Big Cat:statement of fact what i'm concerned about he needs to get back in time for the olympics yeah because he's going to be a problem in flag football and it is he is a fun player to watch so

45:31PFT Commenter:it is a bummer in that respect uh but yeah the the dolphins they're fighting they were back on

45:36Big Cat:their swaggy shit too they had they had two would do the behind the back right-handed pass yep two might be right-handed yeah that was my takeaway from that because that was a that was a sick pass

45:45PFT Commenter:why were we like can we just enjoy the because that happened and it was only a six-yard gain and everyone's like, all that for a six-yard game? Come on, it's fun. It's fun. That was a cool play. Mike McDaniel's got a little swag back. He's going down with a fight. You don't want to see teams quit in September, and the Dolphins haven't quit.

46:04Big Cat:There was a funny moment after the game. I've seen all the clips from pretty much any coach that wins in the NFL. Their locker room speech goes viral after the fact because they're all really, really happy that they won an NFL game. And then they showed Mike McDaniel last night after the game. He's like, I think in this room it's a better feeling today than we've had this year before today, huh? And everybody was like, yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

46:29PFT Commenter:And they have the Panthers next, so watch out. Watch out for the Dolphins. Yeah. The Dolphins get hot to two and three. The other side, the Jets. Memes, that was a tough watch.

46:41Brandon Walker:It was a tough watch. The game was pretty much over after the first drive. Yeah, Braylon Allen. You thought they were going to do man football the entire game, and then they just fumbled and the game was over.

46:50PFT Commenter:I was enthused watching that first drive up until Braylon Allen's fumble where I was like, oh, the Jets have figured out they're just going to be a service academy. Yeah. And they're just going to run it down their throat. Yeah, and then the wheels just fell off from there.

47:03Big Cat:I think Orlovsky said at the time, I just wouldn't throw the ball if I was the Jets. I would keep doing that, and then the Jets proceeded to pass the ball in three or the next four plays, and it didn't go well.

47:13Brandon Walker:Yeah, they were averaging eight yards per carry in the first half.

47:18PFT Commenter:And Justin Fields' stat line isn't that bad, but everyone who watched the game.

47:23Brandon Walker:No, he didn't play that bad. The worst thing he did was just the pre-snap penalties, and then it was just a million of them, and then it just killed him in the end.

47:30PFT Commenter:And it felt like he didn't throw the ball until they were down a lot, and not that it was garbage time because they ended up losing only by six, but that first half, it was like they're not even going to try to throw.

47:43Brandon Walker:No, and I didn't understand that at all.

47:46PFT Commenter:Yeah.

47:47Brandon Walker:If your career is on the line, I don't know why you're just not nonstop throwing it. Throw a million interceptions.

47:52PFT Commenter:Who gives a fuck? I agree. Are you talking about Aaron Glenn or Justin Fields? Justin Fields. Justin Fields. Yeah, I mean, Garrett Wilson is awesome. He should have gotten the first touchdown with the OBI. Then he got another one that was awesome. Brees Hall kind of put it perfectly. He said, teams shoot themselves in the foot, then we come back and shoot ourselves in the head. Yeah. I wonder if he's talking about there was a fair catch punt at the two-yard line. Rare to see.

48:18Big Cat:It was exciting. It was exciting. Because it was one of those, did they just do that moments right afterwards? They did. It has to be a pretty bad fuck-up around the goal line to make Dan Orlovsky say, this guy has no idea where he's on the field. Yeah. That's new ground that we're breaking. Memes, where are we at overall?

48:38PFT Commenter:all can i can i share some of the the the things i love your two-year plan memes has a two-year plan do you guys want to hear memes two-year plan yeah it's a really good two-year plan am i saying the two-year plan or you said no you say your two-year plan uh so the two-year plan going into last night's game if they won which they didn't wait your your entire two-year

49:03Big Cat:long-term plan was based on the outcome of one game that's the ultimate gateway okay yeah it was

49:07Brandon Walker:the ultimate gateway game. But after last night's game, I don't think they're going to win a game. I think they're going to win a game.

49:15PFT Commenter:They're going to win a game. That team did not look

49:17Brandon Walker:like they could win a game. But this year you're going to be picking top five, probably top three. Next year's schedule is insanely hard, so you're punting on next year. So you draft all defense next year.

49:32Big Cat:Wait, how do you know next year's schedule is going to be insanely hard?

49:35Brandon Walker:They have your next opponents for like the next three years.

49:39Big Cat:But you guys are going to, if you're as bad as you say that you're going to be, you're going to have a last place schedule.

49:45Brandon Walker:No, but you still have to play the NFC North and AFC West.

49:48PFT Commenter:Yeah, but you don't know who's going to be good. That's eight losses. Injuries, trades.

49:55Okay.

49:56PFT Commenter:Okay. So continue with your two-year play.

49:59Brandon Walker:So you draft all defense this year. Then the next year you draft a quarterback.

50:04Big Cat:So every pick on defense.

50:06Brandon Walker:Every pick on defense. The defense is historically bad.

50:08Big Cat:So if you're picking top three and let's just say, I don't know, Arch Manning. Not Arch. No. Dante Moore. Pass.

50:18PFT Commenter:Okay.

50:20Brandon Walker:Now if they fall to the second round, I just wouldn't waste another first round pick on a quarterback.

50:24PFT Commenter:Yeah. Okay. So all defense this year, then all offense. But you have the offensive line in place.

50:31Brandon Walker:You have Garrett Wilson. You need a wide receiver two and three.

50:35PFT Commenter:Yeah.

50:36Brandon Walker:Mason Taylor looked good last night.

50:38PFT Commenter:So also, by the way, what a flex for Jason Taylor to go to a football game in his gold jacket. Yeah. That was a nice move. And people are just way too fast to try to find their next cold play moment. It was his wife. It's his wife. His wife was sitting on his lap. Right. But the internet is so hungry to ruin someone's life. They're like, oh, my God. Jason Taylor. All right. So two-year plan, all defense, then all offense, then win.

51:01Brandon Walker:Yeah. Yeah, trade anybody worth anything. I feel bad for guys like Quinton Williams, been on the team forever, and they just can't figure it out.

51:08PFT Commenter:Yeah. You would not trade Garrett Wilson. Would not trade Garrett Wilson. He's a stud. Would you trade Brees Hall? I don't want to, but I think you have to. Okay. What about Coach? I'm rooting for him. Okay, that's a good answer. Good answer. Good answer.

51:28Big Cat:So last week you said you wanted him fired. if he gave up 28 points to the Bucs. Now you're rooting for him. Well, no, I've always been rooting for him.

51:36PFT Commenter:No, that's the they're just kids tweet. When you say I'm rooting for him, the parentheses is I want him fired. He's a joke.

51:45Brandon Walker:Yeah, and we have an irrational owner who just will fire him at any point in time. That is true.

51:52Big Cat:You always have to be on the lookout for that. Okay, if you woke up tomorrow morning, Aaron Glenn was fired, what's your initial reaction?

52:01Brandon Walker:disappointed okay because like he so i saw a tweet today that robert salah's defense his first year was also historically bad okay so it does take time to get that that figured out but i just i don't know it's just been yeah 15 years of shit it would be it would be absurd to fire him right now

52:20Big Cat:it'd be absurd absurd you can't even entertain those thoughts you can't put that out into the

52:25PFT Commenter:universe i i was on a text chain with uh memes last night it got dark and rightfully so can i can i share one thing that i made me chuckle a little but it also like tells you exactly where jets fans are trustry trust is broken trust all right i'm not gonna say meme said it i'm gonna

52:42Brandon Walker:say someone else we have a group chat there was it's literally called the trust it is the cat and two two other jet fans that work here all right this was said i'm not saying who said it

52:51PFT Commenter:but it did make me chuckle a little because it's like this is how NFL fans work. Someone said, I have one more rebuild in me, and then I'm just going to be a casual fan. And I was like, that's the most, like, that's the darkest thought, being like, I'm giving you one more chance to rebuild this team, knowing full well that that's not going to happen. You're going to still live and die with the Jets. I'm not going to say who said this, but. I said that. It was very funny. I laughed because I was just like, like, just being like, got one more. Like, you could do this one more time, Jets. You could rebuild one more time.

53:25Brandon Walker:Yeah, but by then that'll be like year 18 of a playoff drought. Right. How many more rebuilds could you do?

53:31Big Cat:That's the thing about the NFL is right when you're sick of rebuilds, your owner will hire some coach that'll make you insanely excited.

53:38PFT Commenter:Yeah.

53:40Brandon Walker:Yeah, but then the screenshots come out of every single past coach just doing that same dumb face on the sideline being like, what did I sign up for?

53:46PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. I have a spin zone for you memes I shared this on wake up barstool So I was looking at it last night If the history Of the entire planet So earth Was a 24 hour day Human beings Didn't arrive on earth Human beings weren't human beings Until so it's 24 hours Human beings weren't human beings Until 11 58 and 43 seconds. Do you understand that? No, but continue. So all of Earth, I'm saying the whole history of Earth, human beings have only been around for that small minute and whatever it is, 17 seconds, the last very piece. That's how long Earth has been around. Your life, if you live to 100, is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second in this 24-hour day.

54:41PFT Commenter:It all doesn't matter, dude. It's like there's been so much shit that's happened on planet Earth, and there's going to be so much shit that happens who fucking cares think of how small we are that's a good point but yeah

54:54Brandon Walker:we're nothing we're all not winning a football game i know but we're all nothing i'm just trying

54:59PFT Commenter:to think big picture here we're all nothing does that do you do you understand how small that is a minute and set with human being showed up a minute and 17 seconds left in the 24-hour day that's how much earth history has happened before that it's crazy that is crazy it's a euphoria of

55:17Big Cat:winning a football game i agree i agree it's also hard to squeeze that many penalty flags into a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction there's so many penalty yeah it's all it's all penalties yeah and didn't didn't your coach say like he didn't he hire some refs this offseason yeah he said he said we're gonna we're gonna figure this out yeah he said we're gonna put a stop to this i think he had refs at like every single practice because he's he said no more being the most penalized team that stops now yeah and there could be some residuals of not having a

55:46Brandon Walker:coach for however long yeah yeah that's yeah they didn't have a coach since week five it's a lot of the same guys they probably should have cut or traded all the guys from that defense just you come from dan campbell you gotta flush the turds yeah that's his motto yeah you gotta flush

56:06Big Cat:the guys on the team they're they played an entire season basically without a coach and then all of a sudden they have a coach now that's got to be weird for them too it's like hey i thought i thought we We were free range football players. Yeah. You let us just. Yeah.

56:18PFT Commenter:I thought we were like, you know, cats that are left alone for the weekend where you just leave the food out. We just hang out.

56:23Big Cat:Yeah. It's the Montessori football. Right.

56:25PFT Commenter:And now all of a sudden we have to have a teacher that we call teacher.

56:28Big Cat:Yeah. It's bullshit.

56:29PFT Commenter:Yeah. You didn't tell us there were rules. We used to not have homework. Yeah. Class used to be outside. This is. Yeah. It's Will Ferrell and stepbrothers being like, this house is a prison.

56:37Big Cat:Yeah.

56:38PFT Commenter:You don't let me watch cops anymore. What the fuck, Aaron Glenn?

56:42Brandon Walker:now the other side of it it was it was uh it was a terrible officiated game it was there was penalties they just weren't calling on the dolphins the the the late hit on justin fields

56:53PFT Commenter:and like i think it was a third or fourth quarter was egregious it was like he slid and then someone

56:57Brandon Walker:just jumped on him yeah uh there was one with i think that was jeremy ruckert oh they just they jumped on him five seconds after and then there was a penalty on the jets for a hold as joe titman's helmet was getting ripped off like a clear hands to the face like you can't you can't like they lost the game yeah but you can complain about the refs yeah yeah definitely was a terrible

57:20Big Cat:officiated that offensive pass interference was dog shit that was bad that happens every single

57:25PFT Commenter:play in the nfl where are you at with justin field just let him just just just fuck it dude who cares just fucking run around and throw it like it's not gonna work but you just might as will make fun football. I mean, the run was fun.

57:37Brandon Walker:The run was fun. If Justin Fields had James' brain, it would be like the greatest watch of all time.

57:41PFT Commenter:Where he just has no... Just let it fly. Yeah, right. He just fucking grip it and rip it. Yeah, like you're going to be a career backup. Just let it fly. And not a bad backup to have. He's just not a starter, really. I would agree with that. Yeah. I think he'd be a great backup. Yeah.

57:59Big Cat:I'd rather watch him than Tyron. I think he's got a long career. Because you can't really prepare for Justin Fields the good stuff that he does.

58:04PFT Commenter:Yeah. Also, it's kind of bullshit that Darren Waller just beat you guys, right? Like, that was – he had 12 games with the Giants and scored one touchdown. He had one game with the Dolphins and scored two touchdowns. He's back. He looked good. Yeah. He did look good. He did look good. All right. I'm sorry, memes. It's okay. Yeah. I mean, there's a little piece in knowing that it's just – it is what it is, right? This season, at least.

58:33Big Cat:Yeah, but this is like the easiest schedule they've ever had.

58:38PFT Commenter:Yeah, you will win some games. Let's find your win. I mean, I'm looking at it right. Wait, is that their schedule right there? Yeah. They have the Cowboys. That's a coin flip. Broncos probably lost. Panthers is a coin flip. Bengals is a coin flip. Browns is a coin flip. You can beat the Patriots.

58:57Brandon Walker:They just got to get the penalties figured out.

59:00PFT Commenter:Yeah. Saints.

59:02Brandon Walker:Braylon Allen going out was also a problem. Memes, you guys might make the playoffs.

59:07PFT Commenter:I'm looking at the schedule, dude. Stop, stop. Don't do this. Get hot. Don't do this.

59:11Brandon Walker:Don't do this. They have to win a game. They finally got his expectations where they need to be. If they win. Trying to bring him back.

59:19PFT Commenter:No, I don't want him to get. It sucks, given I've been here before. It sucks in September being like, season's already over.

59:24Big Cat:It's a fucked up situation for Memes because best case scenario for him is actually now his worst case scenario. because I think your best case scenario is you end with six wins, seven wins. Very best case scenario, right? Yeah, that's best case scenario.

59:38Brandon Walker:Worst case scenario is 0-17, then you have to fire everybody.

59:40Big Cat:But if you end with seven wins, that's actually the worst case scenario. Yeah. Yeah.

59:46PFT Commenter:Yeah.

59:47Big Cat:Yeah. So it's a bad place to be.

59:49PFT Commenter:Hank, you want to hop in here and pump up memes a little? No, they have no shot at making the playoffs. You guys are being mean. No, we're not. We're trying to pump them up a little bit. I'm realistic. I told you. The playoff thing was wrong, but I think they're going to win some games. I don't think they're going to go. If you want to rebuild, you don't want to win games. No. Yeah, I know, but I do think they're not as bad. All right, fine. They're going to lose every game.

1:00:12Brandon Walker:That's good for the rebuild. Yeah.

1:00:13PFT Commenter:All right.

1:00:15Brandon Walker:I want to win a game.

1:00:16PFT Commenter:Yeah, you're going to win a game. I wish I could bet it right now. It's probably terrible odds. The Jets will absolutely win a game this year. Yeah. Flip it. Put it out there. I'll get a tattoo if they don't win a game. Jets are going to win. Will you get a tattoo, memes, if they don't win a game? Yeah. All right.

1:00:31Big Cat:PFT, will you get a tattoo? Will you match? Yeah, because they're going to win four games.

1:00:35PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:00:36Big Cat:Four games?

1:00:36PFT Commenter:I'm not going to say four, but they will win a game. Four. All right. Any other cleanup stuff? We're going to do a lot of college football talk with Brandon Walker, some really good narrative talk coming off of a big weekend of college football. Anything else that we missed on Sunday? I would say watching back, because we do record the show on Sundays during Sunday football, very weird clock management by the Packers. Yeah. That final drive.

1:01:03Big Cat:Really strange. Also, Dak Prescott looked great. Yeah. He looked really good. They somehow... Is CeeDee Lamb the problem? I don't know. CeeDee Lamb was like George Pickens' biggest fan during the game.

1:01:16PFT Commenter:I know. I know. Good vibes on the sidelines. Yeah, the Cowboys are in that camp of very fun, fun watch. The Cowboys should be in every Sunday night football or Monday night football game because they don't play defense and they score.

1:01:29Big Cat:So we're going to talk about it with Brandon Walker in a little bit, but I was thinking more about the Penn State game, Penn State-Oregon. Would we be thinking completely differently about Penn State if their offense was great and their defense sucked? Yes. I think we would, right? It'd be like a completely – because their defense, looking back on it, their defense is good, Max.

1:01:47Brandon Walker:Right. Yeah, but it's the same thing. That's the difference is that if the offense was really good and the defense was slacking, you can convince yourself being like, oh, we just got to get that defense back to where it was. When it's the same exact thing as it always has been, it's hard to get that hope.

1:02:05PFT Commenter:If you have a bad – if the Penn State had a bad defense, you can reasonably tell yourself, well, the standard has always been a good defense. We'll get back there. Yeah, exactly. With a bad offense, that's been the standard. And what's going to change?

1:02:20Big Cat:If you guys lost the game 40-47, you'd be like, Penn State, we're right in the thick of it. I don't know.

1:02:27Brandon Walker:That's kind of what happened in the Big Ten Championship, though, last year. So it's like.

1:02:31PFT Commenter:They might have broken through, though.

1:02:32Big Cat:But you also thought last year, like, yeah, we could do it.

1:02:34PFT Commenter:Hank's shaking his head. No way they broke through.

1:02:36Big Cat:They should have won for two. They should have gone for two.

1:02:39PFT Commenter:They should have gone for two. There would have been at least a little finality to it where it's like, all right, you lose going for two. Man, they were right there. It's just the way that the interception went.

1:02:50Big Cat:Man. Yeah, if you lose going for two, James Franklin, he at least gets some credit for having some balls.

1:02:55Brandon Walker:That throw, I don't know how you make that throw. There was no recipe to success for that throw.

1:03:02Big Cat:I want to call my shot with Drew Aller right now. What, are you going to say that he's a bust? No. No. No. I think this man is going to have a Chase Daniel-type career as a backup quarterback. Oh. I think this guy has grown in a lab to be a journeyman backup, very successful career, millionaire, top.001 % of quarterback to ever play the game of football, but never be the guy to start.

1:03:29PFT Commenter:But a great backup. But the only problem with that is... Thinking more like Jake Fromm. The only problem with that, though, PFT, is he's going to get like a... Or Christian Hakenberg. Christian Hakenberg, yeah. He's going to get like a real shot to start. Yeah, he will. But if he's really bad at that, start where? In the NFL. No. I think draft scouts will fall in love with the size. The Jets will take him in the second round.

1:03:57Big Cat:Hank, it is the traits. What the fuck? Max, that was mean. In the second round? It was mean. It was mean. You would get excited for Drew Aller in the second round. You made your point when you said Christian Hackenberg. You didn't have to drive it home.

1:04:09PFT Commenter:Well, that was my point. Chris Hackberg, good guy Yeah, he's a 6 '5 quarterback who has a big arm The NFL will always give a guy like that a shot Yeah, I guess He's bad They'll always give him a shot

1:04:27Big Cat:Yes, this man is going to be a 15-year backup

1:04:30Brandon Walker:That one throw was good

1:04:32PFT Commenter:I was thinking about this Do you think the NFL quarterbacking would be better if we made a rule where every college quarterback has to play at least four years of college football. That's a one position? Just quarterbacks. Where it's like, we just got to, we want to make sure. We want to really make sure there's an exclusive club to be an NFL quarterback. It's 32 spots. We're not going to just let anyone in there.

1:04:55Big Cat:Unless you went to Heisman.

1:04:56PFT Commenter:Because if he had gone last year, he would have gone. I like that, Hank.

1:05:00Big Cat:Heisman gets you out. You can unlock your potential.

1:05:03PFT Commenter:Heisman or national championship, you're free to go. Yeah. Everything else, I like that a lot.

1:05:08Brandon Walker:I still think the biggest problem with Penn State right now is they can't run the football. And this whole team is predicated on being able to run the football. And for some reason, Nick Singleton, he's supposed to go down as one of the best running backs in Penn State history, and he's running for like two yards a carry this year when he's been so good his entire career. It makes no sense. He's got to get going for Penn State's offense to do anything.

1:05:32PFT Commenter:Yeah. Was that real, the screenshot? of him Snapchatting? Is that real? I don't know. It's hard to know. I think everything is real. Also respect his game. Drew Aller? Yeah. It was hilarious. If you're a Big Ten, if you're a Power Four quarterback on a big-time campus, just snapping a girl and being like, want to come over and suck me off? I think that probably works.

1:06:00Big Cat:He's a direct communicator. He's a guy that's in charge of the offense. It was a question. Simple question.

1:06:05PFT Commenter:Yeah, it's just a simple question.

1:06:07Big Cat:He's running the spread.

1:06:08Brandon Walker:He was literally asking for consent.

1:06:10PFT Commenter:Yeah, right. Like, do you want to come suck me off? I don't know. Again, we don't know if that was him or not.

1:06:15Big Cat:No, we have no idea. No, we have no idea.

1:06:17PFT Commenter:But I'm saying more if there's a hypothetical, if that is how quarterbacks, all quarterbacks, not just Drew Aller, all quarterbacks in Power 4 programs are acting, the question is fair to just be like, hey, practice ends at five, do you want to come suck me off?

1:06:33Brandon Walker:Who wants to sex my tumbo? Yeah, exactly.

1:06:36Big Cat:I also think that saying it might not be him because who says like practice ends at five? Yeah. That's like a little on the novice to be like, yeah, I'm a quarterback. Yeah, it's probably most likely fake. My practice is over.

1:06:46PFT Commenter:And it's also I'm always skeptical of one of these screenshots coming out right after a performance where everyone's mad at him because it feels like a pile on effect. Like, oh, I can get free publicity by making this up. So I'm going to say fake Snopes. Fake, but. Snopes, the thing that used to do the fake thing. Yeah, but would be funny if true. If true, funny, well played, but PMT Snopes rules fake.

1:07:11Big Cat:So did you see the other news in college sports? I have one.

1:07:15PFT Commenter:Did you guys talk with Brandon about Dan Lanning being so happy for Josh Allen?

1:07:21Big Cat:Yes. No, not in those words. Yeah.

1:07:25PFT Commenter:Dan Lanning is a fired up dude. Yeah, very. Very fired up. He's a fucking good coach. Very fired up. Very fired up. really fired up. Yeah. Incredibly fired up. Alarmingly fired up. Well, it's a big time win. Jaw like Bill Cowher. Yeah. Yeah. Fired up. That guy grinds. Yes. Big time. Mm-hmm. He snuffed out the competition. He did. Big time.

1:07:51Big Cat:I thought he did a great job. Like, their offense threw eight balls that were fantastic. Mm-hmm. At least. Eight perfect balls.

1:07:59PFT Commenter:But yeah, Dan Lennox is a great coach.

1:08:00Big Cat:They got a nose for the goal line.

1:08:02PFT Commenter:Yeah. What was the other thing you were saying?

1:08:04Big Cat:Just the update about the rules that they're going to put in place for NIL in Congress. Okay. So they're debating it right now, and some of the rules have leaked out a little bit. They're going to allow college football teams to wear sponsorship patches on the jerseys. Okay. Which would be very interesting to see. What? Okay.

1:08:27PFT Commenter:I got one. I'm thinking about what Mac school will we pay for to have PMT on it. Kent State or Toledo. Toledo. Toledo, yeah. Central Michigan. Just get Dougs on that. I think it has to be Toledo. It has to probably be Toledo. It has to be Toledo. But that would rock because I don't know how much that would go for, but we could probably, I think probably like a million. What were you going to say? Grambling State?

1:08:56Brandon Walker:Tramp Stamp branding. The bottom of the jersey

1:08:59PFT Commenter:I love that meme

1:09:00Big Cat:I love that What do you think about Georgia Allstate The general

1:09:08PFT Commenter:Yeah Maybe just emoji of sirens Yeah Miami should do coke Maybe Georgia's just a speed limit

1:09:17Big Cat:Yeah Actually Oregon Dan Lanning Sponsored by coke There was another rule That says that But yeah, the conference can't prohibit jersey patches in any sport as long as they preserve roster spots, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There's another rule that says that if you get drafted in the NFL, you can say, actually, no, I'd rather not play for that team. I'll go back to college. Oh, the Florio rule. So yeah, you can turn down a draft spot. It hasn't been signed into law yet, but this is the bill that is currently making its way through Congress.

1:09:50PFT Commenter:I do think that will be used. I don't think it would be used in high-profile, like, first-round stuff. Right. But I definitely think it would be used in, like, a late – like, because you know how there's the –

1:10:02Big Cat:If an agent tells a guy, hey, I think – I put, like, second, third-round grade on you. That's what I'm hearing. Yeah. And they get picked in the last round of the draft. I could definitely see them saying, no, I'll go back to school.

1:10:12PFT Commenter:And there's some guys who, like, in the seventh – who get drafted in the seventh round actually wish they didn't get drafted because they don't get to pick where they want to go. So if you get drafted in the seventh round, you're like, fuck it. I'll go back to school and make money.

1:10:23Big Cat:Right. The worst spot to get drafted is it's not Mr. Irrelevant because at least you get the parade and you get sponsorships and everyone talks about you. The guy before Mr. Irrelevant is the new Mr. Irrelevant. Yes. Because he has to go to one training camp and can't pick where he wants to try out.

1:10:37PFT Commenter:Maybe we should sponsor that draft selection.

1:10:39Big Cat:Mr. Irrelevant-er? Yeah. Yeah.

1:10:42PFT Commenter:I like that.

1:10:43Big Cat:Yeah. That's good.

1:10:44PFT Commenter:Okay. Do we have anything else or should we do Hot Seat Cool Throne?

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1:11:41PFT Commenter:Henry, hot seat, cool throne. My hot seat is, I mean, it's basically just all, it's a lot of people with the NBA media day was yesterday. kawaii had some weird answers he got asked about you know the investigation everything with steve balmer pablo tori also came out with another updated podcast this week about more suspicious funds and like all these weird backdoor sponsorships where there's no deliverables people getting paid to do nothing uh and kawaii's answer was just like it's a conspiracy it's click it never happened he said it's a clickbait conspiracy and credit to ramona shelbourne because she just

1:12:17Big Cat:like kept asking the follow-up questions at one point she asked him what's one example of something that you did for the sponsorship and he was just like i mean there's uh there's a lot of stuff but i'm not going to get into details because it's a lot of conspiracies out there about it she's like okay but like one thing that you did to earn the 49 million dollars or whatever he's like you know there's just a lot of people talking that are they're going to get their clicks um just here play basketball he i i think i need to use the word allegedly here but he's allegedly very very guilty of everything that pablo torres and i i don't look me i don't really blame kawai no he he wants to get paid money yeah i don't blame balmer and if somebody offers listen the clippers have offered no-show jobs in the past to james harden yeah but this is uh it's an it's more unfair in terms of the competitive balance if your team isn't doing this this is so so Pablo

1:13:15PFT Commenter:seems like they're gonna cover me is gonna cover it up because I think there's a lot of team right so Pablo's investigation is great and I I believe it like all the work he's done but I also just keep having the feeling of I wish my owner did that yeah like I think most fans have that it like it's not how could the Clippers do it it's more like hey Jerry Reinser can you start paying people off the you know under the table yeah and then the nba can figure you're right nba does feel like the clippers should i think i said this like when this first came out the the clippers are going about this the wrong way like bomber going and defending himself kawaii saying clickbait what the clippers should do is just burn the whole fucking thing down just be like this team this team this team they all did it too just fucking take everyone down with you because they're not

1:14:02Big Cat:going to be able to suspend everyone right yep i also like the fact that both balmer and kawaii linner are going the they actually conned me route yeah kawaii is like they owe me money i'm the victim i don't know they're they're fraud so i listen they i'm a victim just like anybody else

1:14:18PFT Commenter:in this case what was the most shocking oh that guy's on that team now kevin durant kevin durant

1:14:24Big Cat:yeah i was gonna say chris stops yeah didn't realize he was on the hawks yeah i forgot about

1:14:29PFT Commenter:that uh also chris paul just looking like gilly so old like the most washed anyone's ever looked is chris paul i think it's because he shaved his head fully uh yeah that was a shocking one kevin love kevin love on the jazz whoa that's weird he said they're gonna call him up shit Yeah, I've heard Warriors sad

1:14:56Big Cat:LeBron saying this may be his last media day

1:14:59PFT Commenter:Oh, of course Wow, Kevin Love on the Jazz

1:15:03Big Cat:LeBron's definitely starting another league He's got a little gray ghoster tag in him LeBron's starting another league? Yeah Okay I mean, the Saudi, that's what I was going to talk about on a cool throne But the EA Sports sold for$55 billion

1:15:15PFT Commenter:What happened there? They sold for$55 billion To who? to the PIF and Jared Kushner company.

1:15:27Big Cat:Yeah, it's... Did they just find that? It's, yeah. Saudi Arabia now owns EA Sports. $55 billion. They're taking it private so they can do whatever they want with it. Let me hold the bill. So now there's going to be, like... They are just completely sports-washing everything. Yeah, they're doing an unbelievable job. They're trying to find every way to reach anyone under the age of 40 in America and then make them think that Saudi Arabia is a cool place. Really cool guys. Chill people.

1:15:55PFT Commenter:Yeah. What, Hank? $55 billion? Yeah. Yeah, paid a premium.

1:16:04PFT Commenter:Who owns EA Sports? Who did own EA Sports? I'm not sure. The one guy who just made off with like 20 bill?

1:16:10Big Cat:I'm not sure who actually sold it. They've been a publicly traded company since 1990. But I don't know who the CEO was.

1:16:16PFT Commenter:The largest all-cash sponsored private investment in history.

1:16:19Big Cat:Yeah, so they're taking it completely private. You're going to be off the stock market.

1:16:24PFT Commenter:That's crazy.

1:16:25Big Cat:And yeah, Saudi Arabia, they just have enough money. And they're smart because they know that the fossil fuels that they sell, that's not going to last forever. There's only so many dead dinosaurs that they can dig up. So they're trying to diversify all their funds and make sure that they're going to be rich as fuck for the next 100 years as opposed to just the next 50 years. And there's not a lot that we can do about it. No. Because if they offer somebody - By a billion. A million dollars to do a 30-minute stand-up set. They're going to do the 30-minute stand-up set. What? How much for a one-off pod?

1:16:56PFT Commenter:We've already said we will do this pod, just personally do this pod for$100 million.

1:17:02Big Cat:$100 million is my price for everything. We'll take it offline, and we'll just do the pod.

1:17:06PFT Commenter:We got more than that.

1:17:08Big Cat:No. $100 million, I will do anything. You think we got to do more than that? I will be a very principled man when it comes to Saudi Arabia. I turned down some live money. 200 million?

1:17:21PFT Commenter:300 million? Stop me. Where are you? 55 billion? I think we could get at least a billy. You think we get a billion for a bar in my tank? I don't think so. But they want to. I mean, what did the Kelsey brothers get? Like 200 million? I don't know. Okay. Well, hit us up. Hit our line. Although the Saudis might be mad at me. I just know. You fucked us. You fucked us. I fucked us.

1:17:47Big Cat:I just know that no matter how much money they paid me, at some point I would make a joke about a journalist. And then they'd be like, okay, well, now you have to – we got to cut your throat out. Yeah. But the money. But the money. You always get a new throat. I mean, they could have their public beheading guy chop your pinky off.

1:18:07PFT Commenter:Done. Oh, that one, 100 mil. That's fair. Pinky for 100 mil? Mm-hmm. Okay, your cool turn? Also, Lonzo Ball said – That was my cool tone. Okay. No, no, you can do it. He just said he didn't know Cleveland had water, which is relatable. Very funny. I like that. He didn't know it had water? Yeah. I think he means a lake, but yeah. Got it. Okay. Yeah. I think he knew they had water, but he said he was walking around and he saw there's a big lake right there. Yeah. Yeah. I'm on his side on that. I remember the first time when we went to Wisconsin and we were looking at the lake and I was like, uh.

1:18:42PFT Commenter:You mean Madison? Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, I saw the ocean.

1:18:45Brandon Walker:I drove through Cleveland once, and I spent the night there driving from the East Coast to Chicago, and I stayed on a hotel on the lake, and I was like this. Cleveland's a lot nicer than people say. It looks nice. Great lakes are great.

1:19:00PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. They're great. My cool throne is New York baseball teams inexplicably keeping their manager after a bad year. Oh, why? What happened? The Mets are sticking with their guy, Carlos Mendoza. Okay. Memes not to pile on but What did you think about Steve Cohen tweeting like Sorry It's fine

1:19:23Brandon Walker:The thing I don't like is that graphic Which one? Thank you fans

1:19:27PFT Commenter:Oh that was one Come on You gotta know your market The thank you fans is something that you can Put out in like Kansas City Or you know Colorado And there's a bunch of fans cheering You can't do that for New Yorkers They're going to fucking freak out Which rightfully so Okay Good job

1:19:53Big Cat:PFT Hank took two of mine Good job Hank So I'm just going to do my cool throne Cool throne is ice cream Because Cincinnati is Raiders ice cream It came out with Cincinnati chili flavored ice cream And I'm going to try to get them to send Some soft serve

1:20:10PFT Commenter:Nope we're not putting that in the machine

1:20:11Big Cat:No we're not I think not putting that in the machine. I think we're not putting that in the machine. If the Reds win the World Series, it goes in the soft-shrie. That's fair. That's fair. Okay. That's fair. All right.

1:20:22PFT Commenter:And if they don't win the World Series, you got to put chili. You got to boof chili. You have to make your own chili ice cream. You got to put it up your butt. I got a butt funnel. Butt funnel chili.

1:20:31Big Cat:Butt funnel chili. I actually think that chili might not be the worst thing to butt funnel. I guess. Done. Yeah, poison. If you had to choose a food, I think that chili is top three for what you'd have to butt funnel.

1:20:46PFT Commenter:Yeah, I mean, I can see where you're coming on that. It'd be so hot. Yeah. Well, no. I wouldn't heat it up before.

1:20:54Big Cat:Well, chili is scalding.

1:20:55Brandon Walker:What are you going to eat? Chili's almost done. Cold chili?

1:20:58Big Cat:It's almost done. Hang on. No, I think you heat it up to 98.6 degrees body temperature and the consistency of it. It's like that mashed potatoes. No, probably that would get stuck.

1:21:10PFT Commenter:heating it up to 98.6 that's hot that's body temperature yeah but that would be hot i think you would be hot to touch no i think you wouldn't even feel it no definitely not what are you talking no yeah now that i'm thinking 98.6 degrees if you have a cup of water that's 98.6 degrees

1:21:25Big Cat:that's hot water that would be the exact same sensation as like actually getting fucked in your butt that's a hot let's heat this up to skin temperature so it feels nice yeah think about when

1:21:34PFT Commenter:it's 98 degrees out you're not like oh this is the perfect temperature yeah no i think uh like

1:21:40Big Cat:probably what upper 70s when you get in the ocean yeah caribbean 98 degrees getting in the ocean it's like it's kind of hot yeah yeah all right but yeah i'm excited about playoff baseball the reds they got a tough task yeah going to la yeah um all right my hot seat is uh

1:21:59PFT Commenter:rory rory's getting kind of dragged a little bit because of uh he had some comments about the fans And then obviously he was chirping the Bryson DeChambeau, that whole video that went out. Also, he tried to get a fan kicked out. The fan did use a slur. Where do you guys stand on Rory? Was he soft? Because it is a little bit. There was a lot of the fans were brutal. The fans were bad. I feel like you can't be like the fans are bad, but also be screaming fuck off to the fans. Right? Well, did they start? I mean, when they're going to like wife and personal shit. Agreed on that. I think you can be like fuck off And then also be like they were bad I don't think But then do you think there's anything to be said about him Covering up Bryson's name No I think that's what we like Isn't it I like it but I'm saying he also was like You guys went too far And then he's kind of gloating Going too far The Bryson thing is separate The Bryson was like chirping him before the tournament Being like I hope we play yada yada yada So him going up Like, that's Bryson took not shots, but was like, you know, coming at him a little bit before the Ryder Cup.

1:23:11PFT Commenter:So it was like a fair, especially with the Pioneer stuff. It's like a fair. I think that was just like he happened to be standing over him was like, oh, look at this.

1:23:18Big Cat:Okay. I think that you can say fuck off to the victors.

1:23:21PFT Commenter:Go the spoils. I think it's like, yeah, no, but I agree with that 100%. But he also was like very sanctimonious of like, this is too. Everyone went too far.

1:23:30Big Cat:You can fight. They did, though. You can fight fire with fire, and you can fire back at them with the same things that they hit you with. But if someone hits you with a slur, you can't go back at them. Right. The only thing that you can do is be like, hey, that guy's saying slurs.

1:23:42PFT Commenter:Yeah, the wife's - Was it an anti-Irish slur? No, it was a pro-English cigarette slur. Got it. Yeah.

1:23:51Big Cat:Got it. Okay. And yeah, so Rory probably can't - No. Or he could and just be like, I'm talking about - Yeah, yeah. I'm sick of all this cigarette smoke. get all these cigarettes out of here.

1:24:01PFT Commenter:I'm not the biggest Rory fan, but yeah, I mean, he does get to celebrate any win he wants. He also had the best year of all time. It's like tough to, you know. Well, Scotty. I would take, I think I'd take Rory's year. You would? What? Scotty won everything. We're in the Masters, the Players, won at Pebble. What did Scotty win? But he hit the career grand slam too. That's, yeah. And he won an away Ryder Cup. which like... Okay. I don't really count the Ryder Cup as anything because we lost.

1:24:36Big Cat:Exhibition.

1:24:36PFT Commenter:I will say, so my cool throne is... Or sorry, this is actually my... I have double hot seat. It's me, and I need your help, Hank, because I did tweet out on Monday morning it was hard for me to hate the European team because I saw the clip of them in the bus when they were doing the song. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Europe's on fire. USA is terrified Europe's on fire USA is terrified They're so good a chance I love Tommy Fleetwood I don't think I have It goes back to what we were saying on Sunday The European team feels like they're just best friends And Team USA never has that vibe And I don't know I just can't hate them that much

1:25:20Big Cat:You know what sucked is the fact that we were favored Going into this Ryder Cup I think it'd be way easier to be like It's always easy to root for the US if they're underdogs Yeah. Right? The U.S. Yeah, but it makes people root. Like, we love an underdog story. Yeah. And they probably should have been favored going to this Ryder Cup. If they were favored, I think everybody would have been like, it would be way easier to get behind the U.S. guys, even the ones you don't really like that much.

1:25:46Brandon Walker:They were just favored because everyone wants to bet on the U.S., right? No, it's home.

1:25:51Big Cat:Home. Teams don't lose the Ryder Cup at home.

1:25:53PFT Commenter:Yeah. Except for the U.S. Yeah. Yeah. Europe's on fire. USA is terrified. Europe's on fire. USA is terrified. Na, na, na, na, na. Who wrote that song? Na, na. Gobbles? It's Freed from Desire by... It's a shame to say that I did listen to it. I mean, it's just when...

1:26:15Big Cat:Oh, that song is a...

1:26:16PFT Commenter:I mean, it's like... When you have an awesome song and everyone's partying and on a bus and the vibes are the highest they could possibly be, it's really hard. Freed from Desire by Gala.

1:26:26Big Cat:who gets the Ryder Cup do they share it do they pass it around

1:26:30PFT Commenter:I don't know you get a day with it happy birthday to Frankie Fleetwood that was awesome the whole fucking team singing happy birthday to them alright here I'll come back with one thing they all live in America that and Sepp Straka that's not fair you have a southern accent when I heard him talk

1:26:53Big Cat:I was just like this is crazy He's a Georgia guy. Although I like what his friends said about him because he grew up saying he was 50 % Austrian, 50 % American. They're like, no, Sepp. No, you're 100 % Austrian and you're 100 % American.

1:27:05PFT Commenter:Yeah. I guess the name. The name, I can't even get back. I can't even look at that. Sepp Strzokka name. He even looks like an American. Yeah.

1:27:12Big Cat:He's a big boy.

1:27:13PFT Commenter:Yeah. But yeah, I don't. I can't. Do you agree with me, Hank? Like it's hard to hate the European team? Yeah. Who's hateable? I think you can hate Rory. yeah I don't like Rory but the rest of the team it's like I don't really have an opinion and I love Tommy Fleetwood I like a lot of those and I like Justin Rose I like Hatton Justin Rose walking in that putt was the most badass thing ever

1:27:34Big Cat:that was disgusting yeah Hatton

1:27:36PFT Commenter:Lowry those guys are just they're good yeah fuck John Rom John Rom I like John Rom damn it Patrick AW recurring guest it just feels like we're meant to hate these guys it's like I don't it's not it's not like USA Canada when we play in like the Olympics in hockey where it's like I'm going to fucking I really feel some kind of way. I don't know. It's just... I guess I got to find a way to get some hate up for the golf.

1:28:03Big Cat:Why don't they ever do Scramble in the Ryder Cup?

1:28:04PFT Commenter:That'd be so sick. Because it'd be a birdie. Yeah, it already was. Keegan fucked up the course. Scramble would not be fun. Shane Bacon, I saw our friend Shane Bacon was doing his show CBS on golf and he was like, that was the worst course set up ever it was like the least exciting golf because everyone just got birdies and everyone could hit every single shot yeah like they're spinning balls off the rough shit like that just crazy so we fucked up uh zach hot seat cool throne uh my hot seat this week is going i'm gonna have to put myself in the hot seat uh this morning i may have committed like a cardinal

1:28:43Brandon Walker:co-worker sin by mistake oh boy which is not good and i would like to apologize to a few people microwave fish it's uh i did not do that that that is also a sin we nobody should microwave fish but i got here around 8 8 15 this morning uh i was excited to start the day i was like we're gonna have a good show good day uh put my stuff down go out i'm like all right we'll get the ice cream situation situated early you know we'll get everything flipped all the cones stocked and then immediately as soon as i'm on the other side of the court getting the machine down uh truck siren goes off across the building and i instantly knew that it was one of the several alarms that i set on my phone and like there's people at desks trying to get early work done trying to get dialed and i couldn't have sprinted faster to the other side they tried to be they were out outwardly understanding but i know i just ruined many mornings wait so it was at your desk i left the phone here and then i was the furthest you can be from this corner desk

1:29:42PFT Commenter:Your desk is like right by where a lot of people are working. Can we hear the phone alarm?

1:29:49Big Cat:I can play it. Also, what time was this? This was 8.15. Okay. So like the people working are just dialed in. There's not many people moving and shaking. And everyone looks over because that's very clearly an alarm that you set to wake up in the morning.

1:30:03PFT Commenter:And it takes you 15 seconds to run over to turn it off.

1:30:06Big Cat:Maybe 25.

1:30:07Brandon Walker:I got short legs, but I did do the best I could. I felt so bad. Yeah. Yeah, it was a terrible co-worker move.

1:30:14PFT Commenter:Okay. Let's hear the alarm.

1:30:15Brandon Walker:I'm not sure if I'll be able to. All right, maybe I can.

1:30:18PFT Commenter:You just set it again for.

1:30:20Brandon Walker:Oh, set it for like 1101?

1:30:22PFT Commenter:Yeah, set it for, yeah.

1:30:23Brandon Walker:All right.

1:30:24PFT Commenter:Do your cool throne and just set it and forget it for a minute from now.

1:30:28Big Cat:Zach, are you a set a new alarm every time guy or are you a use your old alarms that you already have and repurpose them? I just hit the button every morning.

1:30:39Brandon Walker:So then you just have like a list and you go down, you fly the list down all on. Don't forget people be mad at you. And then you got to turn them off when you wake up.

1:30:49Big Cat:Yeah, I've got, I think I have maybe 30 different times that are set for alarms right now. And so I just pick one that's close to whatever I need the next day. I have just two.

1:31:00PFT Commenter:I just have an AM and a PM. If I nap, I'll add a PM. That's it. Do you edit? Yeah, I edit it every morning. I edit it every night, but I just have two alarms. And I just, before I go to bed, I change it to a.m. And then whenever I am able to catch a nap, I'll use the p.m.

1:31:18Brandon Walker:I don't trust one alarm. I always do like four or five. Really? Yeah, just in case.

1:31:24PFT Commenter:I guess I'm also different. My kids will wake me up anyway.

1:31:28Big Cat:All my titles for alarms are like a little time capsule in the past. Look at me. I've got past memories. Memes, that was so many alarms.

1:31:35Brandon Walker:Yeah. I got like the mics were off. You got to do it again. You got to do it again. It did scare me a little bit, though.

1:31:44PFT Commenter:Yeah, look. I just have two alarms. AM and PM. Memes, that was like a thousand alarms.

1:31:50Big Cat:How many memes do you have more than this? I think I have like 40.

1:31:54Brandon Walker:No, he's got memes had like 100. So it looks like I have one every 15 minutes. For the whole day? Till, yeah, no, 11.38 p.m. is the final one.

1:32:06PFT Commenter:That's crazy. So you just, what does that do?

1:32:10Brandon Walker:I just always want to take a nap, you just send an alarm.

1:32:14Big Cat:Yeah, I've got 36, 36 different alarms. And some I very clearly gave labels to back in like 2012.

1:32:20PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:32:21Brandon Walker:My most common one is just email Chestnut. Because for some reason I needed to email Joey Chestnut. Like, that's the 8 a.m. one. I think I need it. Oh, there it is. Oh, no.

1:32:34PFT Commenter:That's brutal, Zach.

1:32:35Brandon Walker:Yeah, I did that to people at their desks this morning, and I feel terrible. I wish I could be a one-alarm guy.

1:32:40Big Cat:I just, in full transparency, I'm not there.

1:32:43PFT Commenter:Yeah. Someday.

1:32:44Big Cat:Oh, I just had an alarm go off right now. I made a reminder for myself a few weeks ago. Give ceiling on Commander's Season. I think you guys asked me that. Oh, okay. Maybe on like the 9th of September. And I said I'd answer you at the end of the month. So give us the ceiling. All right. So the ceiling on the commander season, I think at the best, this team is going to be good enough to lose in the second round of the playoffs.

1:33:18PFT Commenter:That's the ceiling.

1:33:19Big Cat:I think that's the ceiling.

1:33:20PFT Commenter:So the ceiling is not the NFC championship. I don't think so.

1:33:25Brandon Walker:So you're worse this year than you were last year.

1:33:29Big Cat:The final result of the season is going to be worse this year than it was last year.

1:33:33Brandon Walker:That can't. It's one or the other. Because the ceiling last year was higher than the ceiling you just said. So it has to mean that you think that they're worse than they were last year.

1:33:43Big Cat:I think we're going to be a better team by the end of the year.

1:33:46Brandon Walker:Then the ceiling would have to at least be the same.

1:33:49Big Cat:I think the ceiling is lose in the second round of the playoffs.

1:33:54Brandon Walker:Then you think that they're worse.

1:33:56Big Cat:But we get fucked by the refs. That. We should have won. That doesn't. Yeah. No, it makes sense. That is worse.

1:34:05Brandon Walker:It has to be worse. If you think that's the ceiling, then it has to be worse.

1:34:11Big Cat:No. I think we're going to be better football. There's a lot of.

1:34:14Brandon Walker:Then the ceiling is the same.

1:34:15Big Cat:The film's going to be better.

1:34:18Brandon Walker:Then the ceiling is the same.

1:34:19Big Cat:We're going to get fucked by the refs. The ceiling is the roof. So officially not thinking Soupy this year. Does everyone want to do ceilings? Let's do ceilings real quick If we beat the Chargers this weekend

1:34:29Brandon Walker:Ceilings, I'm happy to do ceiling

1:34:32Big Cat:Okay, alright Alright, ceiling NFC divisional loss Okay Zach, ceiling

1:34:40PFT Commenter:For the Bucs

1:34:42Brandon Walker:I think second round playoff loss

1:34:45PFT Commenter:Oh, I think it could be You gotta be Super Bowl Yeah, you gotta be Super Bowl

1:34:50Brandon Walker:Retract that You can say Super Bowl Super Bowl

1:34:51PFT Commenter:You can say Super Bowl

1:34:54Brandon Walker:nfc championship game no they just won that we got to go through some guys and then we're there yeah straight through them don't even mention them yeah you are in the game with the eagles eagles obviously are super bowl ceiling so you you can say super bowl ceiling yeah max super bowl

1:35:09PFT Commenter:yeah super bowl memes seven seed seven seed yeah but the playoffs but the floor is yeah the is dead last. Yeah. That's the floor. Okay. Oh, we should do floors next. I would like to put Super Bowl appearance asterisk dependent on what happens Sunday night. That's your ceiling? I think we're going to shock the world this Sunday and then anything's possible. Okay. But the asterisk, if we get smoked, then...

1:35:41Big Cat:That'd be lucrative for you.

1:35:43PFT Commenter:I know. I think wild card... I'm not scared to support my team and my second-year quarterback, who I believe in. Wild card loss is the Bears ceiling. That would be an incredible season.

1:36:00Big Cat:It would be fun. Yeah. Floor? Oh, the floor? I don't want to think about the floor. Ooh. Say the floor. It's dark. You want to go floor first? I think the floor is second-round playoff loss. Okay. That's what we're going to do. Okay. That's what this team is going to do this year. Doing it for the same. Write it down right now. Commanders make the second round. We might even smoke the wild card team in the first round.

1:36:28Brandon Walker:Is that because Hank just kind of bullied you into saying that?

1:36:32Big Cat:With what? Second year. Oh, I thought he was talking about Big Cat. He was looking at both of us. Well, the thing about Hank is he's going to change his mind entirely in like four days. That's fair. So it doesn't matter. He was done with the season. That's a fair point.

1:36:45PFT Commenter:Yeah. Week one. You literally said we have no chance of winning eight games because you lost week one. And I do the same thing, but you can't just pretend that you've always been confident. Yeah. No, but then your quarterback goes and has the best rating out of all the quarterbacks in week three, or week four, and yeah, anything's possible.

1:37:07Big Cat:Okay. Yeah, you're a film guy. Floor, Zach. The graph guy. If we're talking floors. The graphs are good. The graphs are really good. No injuries involved in floors.

1:37:15PFT Commenter:No injuries involved in floors.

1:37:17Brandon Walker:Okay. I think things can get dark quick for any team. So I think floor is like six wins. Whoa. Like, I think it could happen to any of us at any time.

1:37:26Big Cat:I think you have a higher floor. But if there are injuries, then you can just be like, my prediction for the floor did not account injuries. So you can't be held account for that. Yeah.

1:37:36Brandon Walker:I'll say wild card loss.

1:37:37Big Cat:Okay. That's the floor.

1:37:38Brandon Walker:Floor.

1:37:39Big Cat:Floor memes. Zero wins. Max, do you see this? Just pick him first. Pick him first. Do you see this stat, Max? What? That should be your ceiling. That Schefter just put out.

1:37:47PFT Commenter:Oh, that was mean. That was mean. He just said that that should be your ceiling memes. Picking first. Yeah, it's rude.

1:37:55Big Cat:Max Schefter just said through four games this season, the Eagles have been outgained by 327 yards, the fourth worst margin in the NFL.

1:38:03PFT Commenter:Whoa.

1:38:05Brandon Walker:Here's the thing about that. I don't give a fuck.

1:38:08PFT Commenter:What if you start losing, though? Then you'll give a fuck. And the signs are there. They're winning. Okay. Okay. Your floor? Floor, lowest of the low, worst case scenario, would probably be losing one of the games to the Jets.

1:38:28PFT Commenter:So you could hit your ceiling and your floor. Yeah. It would be the first team ever. If you win the Super Bowl but lose to the Jets. Just make the Super Bowl. That ceiling and floor.

1:38:37Big Cat:No, Hank would be the second person to ever do it because I could have potentially hit my ceiling and floor at the same time a few weeks earlier. Yeah.

1:38:43PFT Commenter:Yeah. My floor, I'm going to say four wins. Four wins would be the floor. I think that would be a pretty big disaster. That's a bad floor. But that's a floor. La floor. That is a floor. Okay. Let's get to our interviews. We got Brandon Walker and then Lane Kiffin. And then we'll finish off with guys on chicks.

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1:39:58Big Cat:And now, here's Lane Kiffin.

1:40:02PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. He's a recurring guest. It is Coach Lane Kiffin of the Ole Miss Rebels off a big win on Saturday. First of all, congratulations. Huge win. What was the vibe? I saw some of your posts on Twitter. I love that you're active. The vibe after the game, because it did feel like, I don't want to call it a breakthrough game, but maybe you can say that, like where it was like this is – you guys have arrived before, but this was a game that maybe had eluded you before, and then you finally win it. What was the vibe like after the game?

1:40:37Brandon Walker:You know, this may surprise you. I didn't really have that vibe at all like a breakthrough game. You know, we had the Georgia game here a year ago where I think Georgia was two in the country and won that game. It's actually the same announcers. So it was kind of, you know, Molly on the sideline afterwards interviewing. It kind of like brought that back to me. But it felt like we just played like we should in a lot of areas, and we won. We were favored in the game. So it really didn't feel like this monumental win like that, you know, really at all. It felt like, hey, we were supposed to win. We felt good about the number of matchups in the game.

1:41:17Brandon Walker:And our players made a number of plays in those situations. And, you know, like the yardage was so lopsided. You know, I think over 220 yards difference in the game and the third downs. And so outside of penalties and turnovers, there was really kind of a lopsided game that way. So it didn't have that feeling like you just win right at the end, you know, with a field goal or you get a bunch of breaks that go your way and happen to win.

1:41:41Big Cat:Yeah, yeah. And then after the game, I'm a big fan of your dog, at least online. Juice is a very good boy. Have you had a word with Juice for tweeting out the picture of the hat that said, Brian Kelly can't run the damn ball? I feel like Juice is putting rat poison out there.

1:41:57Brandon Walker:He's young. You know, he's only like three. Yeah. So, you know, like you can't really mature tell you just mature. And he's not there yet. And in his defense, think about it. This dog's ego is so out of control. Think about it. He does the walk. You know, the champions walk before and there's whatever, 30 ,000 fans there yelling his name, juice, juice. So I worry about our players and their egos, you know, and everybody knows them. But they're walking through with 100 other players. He's the only dog. Yeah. We all know his name. so that's all he knows like he's got to take pictures with a bunch of fans you know before the game and stuff he gets to tea sometimes so he really hasn't had really many humbling things in life yet to kind of grind him so um you know that that's why he does those things you know like

1:42:46Big Cat:right after the game i mean come on yeah that had to make you so mad when you saw that your dog tweeted that out and you were like come on man that's the last thing that i need please stop What about not running the ball, Brian Kelly? Come on.

1:42:59Brandon Walker:Is he in the doghouse? No, because that's the problem. There's too many people around here that don't discipline him. I try, and then everybody's like, oh, no, it's you. She's just a dog. It's an issue. We've created a monster.

1:43:15Big Cat:Yeah. 21 years old in dog years, though. Maybe old enough to know better.

1:43:20Brandon Walker:Yeah, 21. They don't know anything. I didn't. That's for sure.

1:43:25PFT Commenter:That's a fact. I want to talk about your quarterback real quick, Trinidad. He's awesome, and he came from Ferris State. Really cool story. When you're getting a guy from a transfer portal from Ferris State, what is that process like where you're like, hey, are there question marks? Can he play at this level? Because he obviously has proven that he can, but it's got to be a little weird getting a guy from a smaller school like that and stepping up to the SEC. It's not like stepping up one level and then going to the SEC. It's Ferris State to the SEC. That's pretty crazy.

1:43:57Brandon Walker:Yeah, I think I realized that, like, the first meeting we were in, we were in the quarterback meeting. You know, in the fridge, he has, like, water, Gatorades and everything, and he's like, do I need to pay for this? You know, like, Trinidad, it's good, man. You're, like, you're going to get a lot of stuff here. You know, you're in the SEC on full scholarship. But I love that you just said it's a good story. I love this story. Just think about how many Division II, Division III players there are out there, you know? and here's this kid like living the dream and making the most of it you know he gets the opportunity to come here Austin's doing really well playing and Austin gets hurt and he comes in and she was the national player of the year last uh Saturday and so you know he was going from playing in front of you know a thousand people and so you know that that's such such a good story for all the kids striving out there like man if I work hard maybe I'll get my chance you know like playing in Division II, you know, instead of like, no one's going to notice me.

1:44:51Brandon Walker:And here this guy is to motivate so many. So it's such a great story. Like I said, here's a short little quarterback at Little Ole Miss, you know, playing against Nussmeyer and the mighty LSU Tigers. Yeah. What a story. Yeah.

1:45:06PFT Commenter:And was there a moment in training camp where you're like, okay, we made the right decision. This guy can ball. Because I'm sure there was probably a small part of you that was like, we don't know. Like, we see that he's really good, but it is Ferris State, and this is a different level. And was there that click moment where you're like, okay, yeah, no, this is going to work out. He can ball.

1:45:27Brandon Walker:Yeah, he really did well in any scrimmage format. Like, whenever he went in the stadium, he just kind of lit it up. You know, some people would kind of say, man, there's Trinidad magic going on. And so he really just made a bunch of plays. Kind of had a Baker Mayfield-ish, you know, feel to him, running around and keeping plays alive. And it's crazy. You know, somebody in our offense, you know, is joking. They're like, in our offensive staff, and they're like, you know, Trinidad had more yards than he did one year ago, like I think this week or something. And they're like, he was playing Roosevelt College.

1:46:02Brandon Walker:Right. Right. It's nuts. It is. But it's a wonderful, like I said, story for so many people to stay motivated, whether you're at a small high school, small college, whatever it is, you never know.

1:46:14Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. Was this week weird for you? Was it, is it weird having like everybody across the country talk about your daughter and your daughter's boyfriend? And then you have to answer questions to like journalists, like 55 year old journalists being like, Hey, tell me about your daughter and her boyfriend. That seems, it feels like that would be a weird position just as a human being to be in. Yeah.

1:46:34Brandon Walker:The first one, a lot of them avoided it, you know? And I remember, um, the first one that asked me was like, Hey, I know you've been getting this question all week. and I'm like, no, you're the first one. Most have avoided this. Yeah. That's football questions. But, you know, I just, I think it's great that I've been through so much in my life, ups, downs and all that. And having had just actually gone through it with the E60 show and having to like recap all those things, you know, then you're like, you get to a point where you're just like, man, things aren't really that big of a deal. Just embrace them, go with it.

1:47:10Brandon Walker:And I've now tried to learn to reserve judgment of a situation like things happen. Oh, this is terrible. Firing, you know, a breakup, a daughter dating a linebacker on the other team. All those things that you might think are terrible. You don't know. They might end up being wonderful things. Right. So, you know, I got fired from UFC. I thought my life was over, especially like watching that show and you're on the tarmac and everything. And look, had that not happened, I would have never got a chance to go be with Nick Saban and learn all that and all those relationships and, and become a much better coach.

1:47:45Brandon Walker:So I just embraced it, ran with it. And, and what's a great kid, great family. So I look at it as like, Hey, how blessed are you that, you know, they're in a, they're in a good relationship with great people.

1:47:58Big Cat:Yeah. I like that. Yeah. Be open to the universe. Yeah. It's good advice. Is it, is it everything? Is it a recruiting violation to talk to wit?

1:48:07Brandon Walker:I don't know. That's a, that's a good question.

1:48:10Big Cat:I don't mean to blow the whistle on you I was just curious yeah after I was like hey you know if you're not going to the NFL that portal's coming up in here but yeah no I actually leading

1:48:20PFT Commenter:up to it I was like I think Lane Kiffin's the perfect guy to to handle this because you you immediately took to to Twitter and we're having fun with it and it's like it's clear it's not bothering him everyone assumes the worst of it and they're like oh he's gonna be so bothered like I think he's going to be fine and Ole Miss is going to win this game. Did you feel a little bad that the tempo, though, did make him puke?

1:48:42Brandon Walker:Well, it's funny that when you just said that about Lane Kiffin is maybe the one to handle this, I was like, you know, what's that saying? You know, they always say God doesn't give you things you can't handle. So probably I'm the one coach to put that on the week of the game and handle it.

1:48:57PFT Commenter:And the way you reacted, I was like, he's fine. Like he's joking about it openly. I think you wouldn't joke about it openly if it was like a thing that shocked you. I assumed you had known for a while that she was dating him. And like, I was like, yeah, he's handling it perfectly. But the puking, that was a little mean. Shouldn't have done that type of tempo on him.

1:49:17Brandon Walker:Hey, man, we got to win the game, you know. And even though I embraced it and he's a great kid and everything, we might have increased the tempo just a little bit, you know, like he plays in the first half, you know, see if we can get this guy to throw up, you know.

1:49:30Big Cat:Yeah. So how do you handle the week after? You guys have a season that's ramping up right now, but you're feeling pretty good about yourself. Can you give the guys any time off?

1:49:40Brandon Walker:We're grinding right now. We've got to get better, and that's just not coach speak, man. We turned the ball over, lost the turnover margin, had a ton of penalties that kept that game closer than it would have been otherwise. So we're back to work. We do have a bye. Then that next week we'll get on to Washington State. We're actually using these two days to work on Georgia, you know, so that we have some prep for that because that's the game after it. And, you know, I have these two advanced guys that are, like, the best football guys ever, and they are, like, the biggest fans of you guys.

1:50:13PFT Commenter:Oh, I love it.

1:50:14Brandon Walker:They got to come say hi, man. Yes. Fisher Ray, Sawyer Jordan, like the key. Oh, okay. Good. All right.

1:50:22PFT Commenter:So we got a question for you guys because – First time AWL, by the way. Love that. Love that. So when PFT and I travel to college games, we oftentimes see NFL scouts, and they'll be like, hey, we love listening to you. And if you guys are true football guys and you know football, why the fuck do you listen to how stupid we sound talking about football? Are there times when you're listening and you're like, God damn it, these guys are dumb?

1:50:48Lane Kiffin:For me, I kind of like the secondary twist on it. I like laughing. I like it not as serious all the time.

1:50:56PFT Commenter:Yeah. I personally enjoy it. I think you guys know ball, though. You guys are ball knowers.

1:51:01Big Cat:That's a red flag. Don't you think that? Yeah, yeah. Fire him. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

1:51:07Brandon Walker:He's a great guy. Low awareness. Yeah.

1:51:11Big Cat:I love Dish.

1:51:12Brandon Walker:That eval.

1:51:12Big Cat:Fisher and Sawyer are great names for advanced scouts at Ole Miss. Yeah. That's perfect.

1:51:17Brandon Walker:Yeah. And great pickleball players. They kind of do everything. Oh, hell yeah. You guys should come to a game. We'll play pickleball, staff baseball. We kind of do a lot around here.

1:51:26PFT Commenter:Can the stadium handle us and Mincy at the same time? I don't think so.

1:51:31Brandon Walker:We'll get Mincy out. These two want to play Mincy and John Gruden, two on two, man.

1:51:39Big Cat:I love that. That would be a good matchup. I would just like to see Mincy run. Yeah.

1:51:43PFT Commenter:Thank you, boys, for listening. We appreciate it. Thank you. Still some time.

1:51:48Big Cat:Do you guys have any words for Brandon Walker? He's on today's show, too.

1:51:52Brandon Walker:We appreciate how big of a fan of the program he is. He always seems to know a lot about what's going on inside. Who's that? That's the Mississippi State guy? Yeah.

1:52:05Brandon Walker:Ask him how that game Saturday was in Neyland Stadium.

1:52:08PFT Commenter:No, that was at home. That was at Mississippi State. It was a great loss. Yeah.

1:52:12Brandon Walker:Exactly. Did you see it? Yeah.

1:52:14PFT Commenter:Oh, I see what you're saying. I get it now. Yeah. There were a lot of Tennessee fans. I think there was, yeah, They were getting mad because faculty was selling the tickets. It is funny. You got to watch out for those guys, though, seriously, because we fill people's brains with some really dumb thoughts. And you got to just make sure, like, you maybe have to put them on, like, a snap count of, like, hey, you can only listen to a couple hours this week because all of a sudden you're going to be getting – they're going to be pitching you laterals, fake punt punts, just all kinds of crazy shit.

1:52:45Big Cat:Hey, PFT, I'm all about the lateral, man. We need more laterals. Yeah, talk to them. I've been saying for like 10 years, the future of offense is the design downfield laterals. I mean, we do the hooky ladders. That's been around for forever. But I mean, like if you get a couple defenders running to make a tackle, you're going to have guys, if they're in open channels to the side, you can hit them 10 yards, take off chunk plays.

1:53:09Brandon Walker:So they have tried to sell me and Charlie Weiss, our offensive coordinator. I didn't even know that you guys talked about this. on if they think about like in seven-on-seven tournaments and the ability to lateral and keep the ball up and the explosive plays created because everybody runs towards it and get out of – think of a new box of way of thinking and you'd be a much more explosive offense if you did it that way. And you would tire the defense even more because they'd have to chase you around.

1:53:36Big Cat:Yeah. And what it also does, it makes the guy that – if you throw it to a wide receiver, it makes him more likely to have a chunk play too because the other defenders are maybe a little hesitant to all swarm on that guy. because they don't want to leave a guy. If you watch a lot of rugby, that's like the number one principle of offensive rugby is to make the defenders make a commitment to one guy and then exploit the weakness.

1:53:59Brandon Walker:So in a few years when we're up for some head coaching jobs, you have to come work for us? Yeah, absolutely.

1:54:05PFT Commenter:We'll say that you're the hot name. Perfect. Coach, have you thought about the fake punt punt? What? The fake punt punt.

1:54:13Brandon Walker:The fake punt punt.

1:54:14PFT Commenter:Okay, so you line up like you're about to punt. And then you line up like you're about to punt, and then you snap it to a running back like you're going to fake it, and then the running back pitches it back to the punter, and then he punts.

1:54:30Brandon Walker:Okay. All right. Hmm. Like flea flicker punt. Flea flicker punt.

1:54:36PFT Commenter:Yes. Yes, it's a fake punt. Punt.

1:54:39Brandon Walker:Hmm.

1:54:40Big Cat:Okay. Think about it. Then we saw Ben Johnson over the weekend. he did the fake flea flicker where the running back kept it after faking the pitch what about the fake fake flea flicker where he fakes the pitch then fakes a run then pitches it back and

1:54:54Brandon Walker:then punts yep pooch punt oh like fourth down yeah like yeah yeah these are all some there's

1:55:01PFT Commenter:there's some pretty cutting edge ideas that we've got i i know you're a cutting edge guy so just

1:55:06Brandon Walker:think about incorporating some of them i i hear you i i don't really punt normally but but if you

1:55:12PFT Commenter:we do yeah yeah give them give them a different look make them kind of fuck them up a little bit

1:55:19Brandon Walker:again if there is a coach to listen to this and possibly do this you're talking to the right one

1:55:23Big Cat:exactly love that exactly we can ask some real football questions like what do you think about paul feinbaum running for senate that means i don't have to deal with him anymore yes or maybe

1:55:34Brandon Walker:deal with him a lot more i don't know what not like on the interviews where you know you're like interviewing with them and then he just freezes and doesn't say anything back yeah yeah anymore yeah he's out of your hair i think paul would be great for that okay yeah so give him you're

1:55:49PFT Commenter:endorsing him so that's perfect mitch mcconnell's been doing that for years you'll freeze yeah the freeze frame on him um what is your you you mentioned right there not not just coach speak when you got into little coach speak what's the telltale sign of when you're in deep into coach speak and you're answering a question that you don't want to answer and you just hit them with the cliches what's your favorite cliche to go with um i don't do a lot of that if you follow me like

1:56:14Brandon Walker:so i usually just say what it is um i probably do that when it comes to injuries you know because that's that's more like protecting advantages competitive advantages so that's where i kind of go back to coach speak when they're like uh you know how's how's his ankle um you know and i'm like they're like will he play this week i'm like i really i really hope he plays this week Yeah. And I just say that about everybody.

1:56:38PFT Commenter:Yeah, we're evaluating everything.

1:56:39Big Cat:Yeah.

1:56:40Brandon Walker:Yeah, yeah, yeah. It really looks like he might play this week.

1:56:44Big Cat:Yeah. We're taking it one day at a time. He's been very impressive with all his rehab activity. Spent a lot of time with the training staff. They're doing a great job.

1:56:51Brandon Walker:Yeah. Or like my sixth year in the deep south here in Mississippi, I start to listen to these things they say down here, and they're actually way ahead of what you think. so on something like that we have this guy tom luke who's been here forever and i'll ask him a question and he'll go yeah we might could i'm like what does that either yes or no no we might could and i'm like that's so stupid then after a while i'm like that's brilliant yeah you're really not saying anything that you're held accountable i could yeah you're just handing him something you get this done on friday the day

1:57:28PFT Commenter:before the game yeah well my could yeah he's plausible deniability he can just be like i never said i was gonna do it i said mike could yeah that is brilliant double maybe i might start doing

1:57:38Brandon Walker:mike could on people you do that on injury i'm gonna start doing an injury hey is austin simmons playing this week yeah i'm not good yeah you can you can also just say that's hipaa you're asking

1:57:50Big Cat:about you're asking me to commit a hipaa violation yeah can't talk which that's against the law

1:57:54Brandon Walker:Then they made the SEC rule, and then they have to say something. So I think they got around that somehow.

1:58:00Big Cat:Yeah. Do you enjoy living in the South? I do.

1:58:03Brandon Walker:I do. And that was something that maybe right at first I was a little bit hesitant on compared to being in Boca, coming from there, and then the beach in California before that. And so it took me some time to kind of open up to seeing things differently than what I thought. they should look like and what I thought I wanted. And now I love it. I really do. It's awesome.

1:58:29Big Cat:The hard part for me would be all the fried food and fat. And you look great. You look awesome.

1:58:35PFT Commenter:Remember last time you came on and I said you look awesome and you were like, what? Because you're just commenting on my looks, but you do look awesome.

1:58:43Brandon Walker:Yeah. Okay. That's getting a little weird. No, you look great. Nice work. Best shape of your life? It's kind of cooler when like the female, you know, two guys is a little uncomfortable. What? I mean, you look hot. Okay. Now I got really weird.

1:59:00Big Cat:This is us fishing for a compliment from you. Yeah. How do we look? Yeah.

1:59:04Brandon Walker:You guys look, you guys look okay. Okay. Pause. Yeah. You're right. You're right about the fried food. So yes, I do think I'm, you know, I like to be different. It's kind of been the story of my life. I kind of like to go against the screen and be different. So I'm like, probably one of the only people ever that moves from like South Florida, California to Mississippi and then loses a bunch of weight. Yeah. You know, like I remember being here like on a Sunday, like, hey, let's go work. I like, oh, nobody works out on a Sunday. It's Lord's Day. Gyms aren't open. And so, but they're like, oh, but the buffet line is, you know, let's go to brunch.

1:59:42PFT Commenter:Yeah. and then i noticed every meal was like dinner or supper i think they say here like lunches are like

1:59:50Brandon Walker:supper too and so i just was like okay i gotta go against the grain on this and just kind of get certain foods and um buy into the south but not into the food yeah yeah i got a very dumb

2:00:03PFT Commenter:question for you ready this is the dumbest question you probably will ever get as a coach you wear a visor have you ever thought about wearing the visor with the fake hair here.

2:00:13Brandon Walker:No, I have not.

2:00:14PFT Commenter:Okay. Think about it. That would be awesome if you just came out with like blonde hair. It was fake blonde hair. You know the ones they sell at gas stations? Yeah. Would be kind of funny. I think Doug Peterson wore those. Yeah. Hmm.

2:00:26Big Cat:You're thinking about it right now. I told you it was a dumb question.

2:00:28Brandon Walker:In college, we went back to like Tampa, like out by St. Pete to like the beach out there area. And we were like, we're going to go to like this 80s band, you know, like Stormbringer was their name. and uh we went to like the like dollar store and bought like clothes you know like that would fit in yeah on there it's kind of like the florida beaches like on that side over there and and i do remember we got like the wig deal you know i got the rat tail that you can pin on awesome think about it think about it what what if you did what if you did rat tail for a game that would be

2:01:02PFT Commenter:awesome that'd be intimidating like oh shit it's a lane kippen rat tail game what uh when did you when did you realize you were a visor guy because they don't make visor guys are not like they're a different sect you can't not everyone can be a visor guy when did you when you were officially

2:01:17Brandon Walker:like yeah you know what I am a visor guy well when I grew up I always I was always like and this may make a little more sense now I was like I want to be Steve Spurrier okay like when I watched him and his offenses and the visor and kind of the way he would throw jabs at other coaches and teams and stuff i was like steve spurrier is the man like that's what i want to be so that's where i started the visor thing and probably started some of the comments maybe of other other programs too yes yeah but i thought it was awesome because i thought the players like loved it they're like we want to go play for steve spurrier like he's got our back you know so that's really what steered me also away from coach speak too was just watching coach spurrier yeah yeah you talked

2:02:04Big Cat:earlier about Nick Saban and your time that you spent with him at Alabama have you thought about doing a similar thing at Ole Miss like if a guy gets fired or a guy loses a job whether it be college or NFL have you thought about incorporating some of what Nick did for you for other coaches that might need to get back on the right path oh definitely we've we've done that now a couple

2:02:26Brandon Walker:years here and had some coaches that you know maybe we're going to take a year off still on contract somewhere and they came here and um but we've had that happen a lot shoot joe judge came here after the giants and and now he's our quarterback coach you know um his son goes here

2:02:41Big Cat:so uh we've got some good stories like that yeah yeah um so how often do you check the portal as a head coach like do you do you do that like all the time well it's not open now yeah but you never know

2:02:54PFT Commenter:if you refresh like maybe one sneaks through yeah what if they accidentally opened it for like a day

2:02:58Brandon Walker:and you missed it yeah we have people on that okay so in the morning when it's open in the morning like the stock market you know like you get the update like every morning all right here's these 16 people that went in you know there's these two quarterbacks you need to go watch these guys you know like so yeah we get those updates a lot when when you're flipping a recruit and i think you

2:03:18Big Cat:just flipped one a couple days ago right cornerback can't comment on that okay okay because

2:03:24PFT Commenter:I saw speak.

2:03:25Big Cat:Okay. I allegedly, if you were to be flipping a cornerback, like how, how do you try to close that deal? How much of it is a pro Ole Miss versus anti, let's say hypothetically, a school that starts with the letter M. Yeah.

2:03:43Brandon Walker:Okay. Uh, hypothetically school that, um,

2:03:48Big Cat:oh keep speeding ohio state yep yeah yeah maybe yeah so i would not talk about that school i would

2:03:55Brandon Walker:not negatively recruit at all not one bit because we get negative recruit a lot and so i always tell them like hey shouldn't it be a red flag if they're if the school doesn't have enough to talk about about themselves that they need a negative talk us it should be a red flag to you so i don't do anything no matter where you're committed any of that and i just sell our program and um a lot of times they come to the town they see the energy they they see the style that we play in and then our players sell it a lot you know when they talk to our players and they realize okay you just don't win here you have a lot of fun doing it and the coaches and players are really really close here um i think that's what does it that's smart that's really smart um all right i

2:04:38PFT Commenter:got one last question for you coach it's always great having you on we love having you on and being a recurring guest if you're watching football this weekend you know how it goes

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2:04:56PFT Commenter:two hands and fold it huge feed your crew and order ahead at pizza hut.com or in the app brought to you by pizza you posted after the game the quote from brian kelly during the week do you have a guy specifically that is just looking for bulletin board material for you or you actually seeing it and being like okay huh i'll i'll think about that i'll put that i'll file

2:05:20Brandon Walker:that away no we i get like on my desk like this just happens to be from last week like tuesday opponent news and then there's all like press conferences player interviews things they said and stuff like and so that was that was right there yeah that was and it actually made our bulletin board like on our screens during the week like you know just to try to motivate guys and you know the other coach says oh we're going to keep this trophy here we're looking forward to it so you know i put it on the big screens for everybody to see i'd like to offer to you if you

2:05:56PFT Commenter:ever are in a week where the other the opposing team doesn't really give you any bulletin board material you can text me and we will give you bullet bulletin board material we'll trash you

2:06:04Brandon Walker:guys yes planted bulletin board material yeah just like you know talk up the opponent a little

2:06:10PFT Commenter:bit also i wanted to say thank you for apologizing after the kentucky game do you get in any trouble for that no okay well i appreciate the apology because i did i did back you guys and i appreciated that a lot yeah i just i just look at things differently too and then i feel like really bad

2:06:27Brandon Walker:on a serious note like when we perform bad and i feel like man i didn't coach or manage a situation or something i'm like that's a lot of people you're affecting yeah a lot of people's like day week everyone all the fans that drove all the way here to see and everything so i get really down on myself i apologize yeah you know like you know i should have done better today and so um and then i spend all off season trying to revenge that in my head of those games to make sure it doesn't happen again yeah we had two i've already had two opponents kentucky and lsu that we screwed up last year we were ahead of both those games like the whole game should have totally won both those games and screwed it up and didn't so it was nice to be able there's a lot of excitement to be able to play them the next year and be able to come out on the other side for your fans yeah uh my last

2:07:14Big Cat:question do you allow yourself to think about what the ceiling for this team is like have you thought about what your all the ultimate goal is like do you even say that or are you like we got

2:07:24Brandon Walker:to win the next game yeah i don't say any of that there's too many variables on that and And, you know, people decide who go to the playoffs and all those things and referees and all that. I stay in the week, in the opponent, you know, get to 1-0. Only during the bye week do we look ahead to try to, like, work on opponents and stuff. But everything is about what we can control, which is practicing and trying to play really well.

2:07:50PFT Commenter:Yeah. Well, Coach, really, really appreciate you giving us time. Best of luck the rest of the season. We'll do this again. And, yeah, make sure that Juice, you know, maybe stays off Twitter for a little bit. Maybe ban him for a little bit.

2:08:03Brandon Walker:Okay. All right, guys. Have an awesome week. Thanks for having me. All right.

2:08:06PFT Commenter:You look great. You look awesome. You look hot. Really hot. So hot.

2:08:10Brandon Walker:Thank you.

2:08:11PFT Commenter:All right.

2:08:11Big Cat:Bye, Daddy.

2:08:16Brandon Walker:Thy ticket, Lady Jennifer of Coolidge. Well, many thanks, good sir. Here is my Discover card. They accept Discover at Renaissance Fairs? Yeah, they do here. Discover is accepted at the places that I love to shop. Get it? With the times. With the times? You're playing the lute. Yeah, and it sounds pretty good, right?

2:08:39Big Cat:Discover is accepted at 99 % of places that take credit cards nationwide. Based on the February 2025 Nielsen Report. And now, speaking of Chunky, here's Brandon Walker.

2:08:51PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest because he complains all the time about not being on the show by himself.

2:08:57Lane Kiffin:Never have.

2:08:58PFT Commenter:That's not true. Maybe a couple times. Continue the intro, please. He is our college football expert for at least a few more months. That is an earned title, sir. For at least a few more months. He's also the winner of Dingers Only. It is the one, the only, Brandon F. Walker. Two-time Dingers Only champion. Two-time Dingers Only champion.

2:09:19Big Cat:You know, Ball, congratulations. We should also say congratulations to Stephen Che who lost Dingers Only. He's going to be pitching. And to Zach who came in second place, which means he'll be catching.

2:09:30Lane Kiffin:Yes.

2:09:30Big Cat:Quite a combo.

2:09:31Lane Kiffin:Dingers Only, to my knowledge, the only competition in this entire company where the winner gets nothing. Zero. Absolutely nothing. Nothing.

2:09:39Big Cat:You're the Ding King. I'm the Ding King. You're the Ding King. So I didn't want – when Big Cat floated this idea to me, I initially told him no because it sounded too mean.

2:09:51PFT Commenter:But we'd like to welcome in Ben Mintz. Oh, yes. Come on, Mintzy.

2:09:55Lane Kiffin:Well, we know he's not here on a Monday. That's a fair point.

2:09:59Big Cat:Listen, he's got weekend preview stuff today. Yeah.

2:10:02PFT Commenter:Last weekend. All right, Brandon. We are five weeks into the college football season. We are. Oh, Penn State. Yeah, we are. Should we start there? Penn State. Let's start with the Penn State discussion because we had a great Saturday. There were some awesome games. You, unfortunately, have gotten a lot of things wrong, which we'll address all of them. I've gotten a lot of things right. Clemson? I got that wrong.

2:10:25Lane Kiffin:Alabama? What did I say about them?

2:10:28Big Cat:Dead. I had a preseason top ten. You had a funeral for Alabama.

2:10:32Lane Kiffin:Yeah. You buried them. That was more T-Bob than me. No.

2:10:37PFT Commenter:Penn State? Penn State's not wrong yet. Okay. Okay. All right, but let's talk about Penn State. Penn State's fascinating, right? Let's talk about Penn State because Penn State is in a weird spot where they are a very good team every single year. And James Franklin cannot win the big one. He's like 2-700 against the big one. And Penn State fans, it feels like a tipping point where they're like, hey, we want something new. Obviously, there's a lot of scary moments out there that you can look at being like, hey, you don't really want to change. because you could have a situation like Nebraska where you just kind of fall off a cliff.

2:11:18PFT Commenter:A Michigan before Harbaugh got there. Sure. When they went from Lloyd Carr and then they went Rich Rod and then Brady Hoke. Tennessee has been through it. Tennessee has been through it. Florida is going through it. Florida is going through it. Not everyone can do the Mark Rick to Kirby Smart train. Right. Where do you think Penn State should go from here?

2:11:36Lane Kiffin:I think Penn State is absolutely – should stay on the same course. Nothing has fallen off. They haven't bottomed out. They haven't done anything wrong yet. I think Penn State is the most... Everybody in college football is chasing their next opponent and they're trying to beat their next opponent and beat their schedule. Penn State is the number one team that's fighting a narrative right now. That is their biggest opponent. It is not Ohio State coming up a couple weeks. It is the narrative that not only James Franklin, but Drew Aller can't do it. Penn State can't do it. None of them can do it.

2:12:07Lane Kiffin:and I think it is fascinating because if you look on the surface, the other night would have been a huge win for Penn State. It would have gotten the monkey off their back. Instead, it just made the monkey much bigger like a gorilla now. It's bigger than it has ever been and maybe ever will be but at the end of the day, they lost to the number two team in double overtime. Well, they weren't the number two team at the time. They're number two now but they lost to a very good team, a playoff team, in double overtime. The way the schedule's set up, Penn State's still going to the playoff. Everything about the first three quarters told me James Franklin can't do it.

2:12:38Lane Kiffin:Drew Aller can't do it. And then the fourth quarter happened, right? So they're in this weird spot where the narrative about them is correct, but they also lost in double overtime after fighting back.

2:12:48Big Cat:The narrative was correct for three quarters.

2:12:51PFT Commenter:Yeah, it was correct, but they also showed... Exactly the same game that we've watched a million times. They also showed some fight. That was my question. Did Penn State on Saturday... Are we looking at this wrong? Did Penn State actually break through on Saturday? And we don't even realize it. Because, follow me, Max is looking at me like I'm crazy. The first three quarters was the exact same Penn State game we've watched every single time, no matter what, where it's just. And I actually, there was a moment in that game, 17-10, when Penn State had it on goal line. And I was like, here comes the Penn State member of the game against Ohio State last year.

2:13:25PFT Commenter:They had first and goal, and they could not get in. I was like, here it comes. This is going to be the Penn State. They can't get it in. They ran a great play. I think it was some motion running back out. It was like a shovel pass in front of Valor. Like something a little bit different. Score, go to overtime. They might have broken through a little bit. Like they didn't lose the exact same way. They lost in a big game, but they actually had some life and played some offense that we have not seen out of Penn State in these games in the past.

2:13:56Lane Kiffin:So they didn't break through, but I think they played well enough in the fourth quarter to convince themselves that they can break through. Okay, so you still think they can break through? I think they can break through. I thought it the other night. Again, they lost in double overtime. The defense is elite. The running backs need to be better. The offensive line needs to be better. Drew Adler needs to be better. They went out and invested all this money in receivers. Well, where the hell are they? In the fourth quarter, they found all these guys. What took you three quarters, I think, I don't know if it's a wide out or I don't know if they're scared of the narrative or if they're convinced the narrative is correct.

2:14:24Lane Kiffin:It took them three quarters and them seeing their own blood and realizing that they were about to die, that they finally got up and started to fight. I think that convinced them that the next time, These two teams play next week. It's a pick-em game. I would take Oregon. That's fine. You can do that. But, like, Penn State is right there. This isn't a team that gets outclassed when they play these big teams. It's a team that just doesn't do the things to win. There are teams that get to this point. Indiana's a great example last year of a team that won 11 games. But both times they were on the field with an elite team, you saw the difference.

2:14:55Lane Kiffin:You don't see the difference with Penn State. They just haven't won them. They just haven't broken through.

2:15:00Big Cat:James Franklin disagrees with the fact that there's a narrative out there. He says, if I look at the entire picture, I get the narrative, and it's not narrative. It's factual. It's the facts. I get it.

2:15:11Lane Kiffin:So he knows the narrative is out there, but the narrative isn't a narrative because it's actual facts.

2:15:17Big Cat:What's the difference in filmmaking, a narrative or a documentary?

2:15:20Lane Kiffin:So what he just said was, I know what they're saying about me, and what they're saying about me isn't true. It's true. It's true. That's what he just said. It's more true. It is a right.

2:15:28Big Cat:It's even more true than we had ever thought or imagined. You guys are treating it as rumor.

2:15:32PFT Commenter:It is stone cold fact. Yeah, you look at the numbers and it is true. I cannot win the big one.

2:15:37Big Cat:The thing I don't like is that he said he didn't think about going for the risk and going for two to win the game. I think they should have. He didn't consider it.

2:15:46Lane Kiffin:In regulation or in overtime? In regulation.

2:15:49Big Cat:He should have at least considered it.

2:15:52Lane Kiffin:Consider it fine, but he had all the momentum in the world. And then they took a 24-17 lead in the overtime. I think he played it correctly at that point, and they got Oregon down to a fourth and three or fourth and four. It's at that point, if I've got my defense and 111 ,000 people behind me, yeah, I'm taking my chances with that. I think he played it correctly. It just Oregon fought through it.

2:16:11Big Cat:Also, I was going to say, if we look at the recent history, Ohio State had a loss a lot like this last year, right? And they bounced back from it and they just went on a fuck you tour. Yeah. I don't know that we can say with any sort of conviction that Penn State can do so because we've never seen them do that before.

2:16:27PFT Commenter:The only difference is Penn State's problem is they can't beat the best teams. Ohio State's problem is they can't beat Michigan. Michigan wasn't in the playoffs. Right. So it didn't matter. It's like, oh, we lost to Michigan. Well, guess what? We don't have to play them again. Ohio State can beat the top teams. They just can't beat Michigan as of late.

2:16:46Lane Kiffin:Yeah. Ohio State woke up that Sunday and looked in front of them and said, we have a playoff now. We're not going to have to play the team that just beat us. For Penn State to get to where they need to go, they need to go through the team's blocking them. They have a lot of Michigans. They have a lot. Every top five team is Michigan. And Oregon is now Michigan. Oregon is Michigan. But again, I was like, I'd like to point this out.

2:17:05Big Cat:Was Boise State, was that a big one? No, that's not. Last year?

2:17:08Lane Kiffin:It wasn't. It's not fair that it wasn't, but it wasn't. They were handed an easy road in the playoff and they took advantage of it. And then Notre Dame was the first one that was like, you can prove it here. And then they had Notre Dame and just in the fourth quarter, dropped it down again. Yeah.

2:17:22PFT Commenter:Yeah. We should say, by the way, because the game, obviously, the narrative is the narrative, and James Franklin pointed out the narrative. Dante Moore is really fucking good. Really good.

2:17:32Lane Kiffin:And Dan Lanning is an awesome coach. He is an awesome coach, but I just want to point this one thing out. They had this gigantic win in October last year when they beat Ohio State 31-30, and they propelled themselves to number one. And when those two teams met in the playoffs, one was ready and one was not. No, they got stomped in the playoffs. So I'm just saying now his narrative needs to become do this shit in the playoff. Well, he's also early in his narrative. He is. He is. Only, what, three, four years? But a couple years ago, they had multiple chances to beat Washington, and they dropped the ball, especially late in the season.

2:18:03Lane Kiffin:That was basically a playoff game to get in the playoff, and he loses that one. So, like, he can do it now. Make sure we do it down the road. He could be the next narrative guy.

2:18:11Big Cat:I'm sure at some point he will, but right now. I think it helps James Franklin's case that the game was over. Dan Lanning called game. He said game over. Yeah. Get the throat slash on him. And then from that point on, that's when Penn State woke up. So it's almost like Penn State was one and one on the afternoon.

2:18:25Lane Kiffin:I'm not going to sit here and piss on your leg and tell you it's raining. I'm not going to tell you. Thank you. I'm not going to tell you that Penn State. You do have bladder problems. I'm not going to tell you that Penn State is this elite of the elite team and they've proven anything. But I do think fighting back says a lot about them. I agree. When was the last time you got your prostate checked? Oh, man. Because you do have bladder problems. I don't have bladder problems. I pee a lot. I'm a big man. He's every sign of Diabetic. You should have a big bladder.

2:18:52PFT Commenter:Yeah. How many times a night are you getting up? Yeah, go ahead, Max. I just have one question from the game. Yeah, yeah. Max was there.

2:18:59Brandon Walker:I was there. I'm not going to be a guy to blame the refs, but it is something to talk about the fumble.

2:19:05PFT Commenter:Sounds like he's about to blame the refs. You're talking about the knee touching the blades of grass replay? I watched it 100 times. I still don't know if he was down or not. Grazed. So how do you overturn the call? I don't know. I don't know.

2:19:17Big Cat:Yeah, I don't know. You're a big grazing guy. What do you think?

2:19:21PFT Commenter:That was mean what he just did, but you have to answer the question. He's short. Okay. Good answer. All right, so that's that game. Oregon is really fucking good. I was so impressed with Dante Moore because that was his first real road start in this type of environment. They obviously played Northwestern. That doesn't really count. It felt as an Oregon duck because obviously he played a couple years ago, but I was very impressed with Dante Moore. I think he's a bona fide dude.

2:19:49Lane Kiffin:He was impressive, and I'll tell you who else was impressive, the bodies they have on defense. Yes. The big thing about coming to this conference and going east and playing these big established teams that are going to run the football and play defense is physically you wouldn't expect a West Coast team to be ahead of the game. Physically, Oregon is just beautiful looking on defense. They've got these big, huge defensive linemen that can all run, the linebackers. They look like Ohio State looks on defense.

2:20:13PFT Commenter:Yeah, and it's actually another game that happened on Saturday, of USC-Illinois. The whole narrative going into that game was USA finally beefed them up. Illinois kind of, I know it was a very close game, but Illinois kind of manhandled them at points in that game. Illinois

2:20:26Lane Kiffin:kept them in the game, too. Yeah, they did. Illinois should have won that game by multiple touchdowns. Great bounce back by Brett Bielema and that team. He's an awesome coach. He's an awesome coach. You didn't expect them to be crappy two weeks in a row. And then for USC, that's another narrative-enforcing thing. We can't go East and win these games, and they can't. I like this.

2:20:42PFT Commenter:We're doing narratives.

2:20:44Lane Kiffin:Here's

2:20:44PFT Commenter:the other narrative that happened on Saturday night yeah curvy smarts got it got an alabama problem i have no idea how either so a couple things one uh that game it was a great game they played great games uh i think it was the first time that georgia lost at home how long it had been 2019 2019 south carolina will must champ wet wettest coach we've got yeah he was always wet you you agree he was always wet i'm not sure

2:21:10Lane Kiffin:that i remember him always being wet but yeah we brought that up in tebow in my mind he's wet he's the dampest coach that's ever existed. There's a lot of damp coaches. What about Sean Miller? I guess that's a basketball coach. Basketball, yeah. Everyone's wet in basketball.

2:21:21PFT Commenter:Yeah, that's totally different. Pete Carroll is a wet coach, too. He's a little wet. He's always wet. But he's a cool wet. He's not a sloppy wet. He's like slick back. Yeah, slick wet. Yeah, yeah. Matt Riley's wet. Yeah, Will Muschamp is wet like, oh shit, I forgot my umbrella. I got caught in the rain at the bus stop. Like, there's not enough towels in this room to

2:21:41Lane Kiffin:cover me.

2:21:42PFT Commenter:Were you just swimming in the ocean? Why are you so wet? Kirby Smart though I actually do think he's got a little bit of the Ryan Day Michigan issue where it's like I don't know what happens but in these games they can beat everyone else they can't beat Alabama I thought like I'm used to Kirby Smart making the necessary adjustments and maybe I shouldn't have been used to it because of what happened the Tennessee game where even though they won that game Hypel finally broke through in the fact that his offense sustained four quarters against Kirby Smart. I don't understand what Kirby Smart was doing when they're down 24-21 and he doesn't kick a field goal.

2:22:17PFT Commenter:And then they're down 24-21 midfield with three minutes left and he punts. And I know it was a long day. It was like fourth and ten or something, but still they never got the ball back. It felt like his brain kind of froze up in those two critical moments.

2:22:31Lane Kiffin:He changes everything about himself when he plays Alabama. A, his offensive coordinator kind of stinks. Bobo is just not aggressive.

2:22:37PFT Commenter:Yeah, it's a tough name to be a bad offensive coordinator.

2:22:39Lane Kiffin:When you talk about Kirby Smart, I talk about a coach who's got a killer instinct. When he's playing these teams, he's better than. He's out there. He's grabbing players' helmets. He's yelling at them. He's fiery. And the players go out there and they play with their hair on fire. Against Alabama, the guy comes to the sideline and makes a mistake. He just grabs him by the little face mask and talks to him very gently, pats him on the butt. He changes his demeanor. He changes everything. And I think it goes to his team. Remember that fourth quarter drop that Georgia had? Wide open touchdown. Guy drops it.

2:23:05Lane Kiffin:Then on fourth and one, they don't go for the field goal. their play call is a toss to a third string white running back a pass on that no then a fourth and one you've got a defensive back coming in and diving onto the pile and one of the more stupid things you'll ever see and so dumb Alabama went 12 and 18 on third down that is a lack of a killer instinct from a Georgia defense that absolutely destroys and throttles everybody else when they have the chance I have no idea why Georgia's going backwards when it comes to Alabama they beat them in the national title game and that's the only time they beat them since Kirby's been there.

2:23:38Lane Kiffin:I have no idea how you beat him in that situation. And then after that, you go back to your old ways.

2:23:43Big Cat:First of all, I don't like the racial overtones there. This is the school that had...

2:23:46Lane Kiffin:I'm just telling you right now, if I'm Georgia, I'm not tossing to a white running back on third down. This is the school of Ladd McConkey's. Brock Bowers.

2:23:54Big Cat:This is the school of Brock

2:23:54Lane Kiffin:Bowers's. That's a tight end.

2:23:56Big Cat:Yeah, but you can make a fourth and one work with a white guy. Mike Allstott.

2:24:02Lane Kiffin:This guy's not Mike Allstott. It was a toss. I know. He's also a very skinny guy.

2:24:06Big Cat:But yeah, you make a good point. The drop pass, It's a different game entirely. That was a touchdown pass.

2:24:10Lane Kiffin:And like Dan said, you're down 24-21. I know you want to be aggressive, and I know you want to make a statement. Tie the game. Tie the game.

2:24:17PFT Commenter:Not only tie the game, tie the game because your defense actually did figure it out in the second half. Alabama scored a point. Yeah.

2:24:23Big Cat:You didn't score a point. I came away from this game not thinking that Kirby Smart, it continues to be an Alabama problem for him. I came away from this game saying Alabama played a hell of a game. Their quarterback, I feel like we watched their quarterback become a man. Ty Simpson. Or very eyes. Ty Simpson had a great game. And I also...

2:24:40PFT Commenter:He plays on third down as well. Oh, my God. The third down. That was the most shocking thing, because Kirby Smart, Georgia defense should not be giving up those plays. Yeah.

2:24:47Big Cat:Yeah. I also came away from this game thinking, like, I did not expect Georgia to blow them out ever. I thought that Alabama was going to compete, because this is the exact game. If you put on the Alabama uniform, you can run into trouble if you're playing against Vanderbilt, and you've got a bad coach. You can run into trouble if you're playing an inferior opponent, and you've got a coach that might not be the guy long term. But if you're playing against Georgia, I think everybody on Alabama is going to get up for that game. I don't think that you're going to run into an effort problem.

2:25:14PFT Commenter:Not Vandy anymore. That actually will be the test, I think. I think if Alabama can beat Vandy like they step on their neck, should beat Vandy, even though Vandy is the best Vandy it's probably ever been, that would be like, hey, Alabama's, you know, everything's fine. Because I've looked back at week one, and I don't want to say, obviously Florida State, but looking back at it, It's like that was a full offseason for Gus Malzahn to get prepared. He is an Alabama beater. Do we maybe overreact?

2:25:45Lane Kiffin:I don't think we did overreact because at that point you had a Kalen DeBoer that went 9-4 in his first year with a playoff roster. He lost to the worst Oklahoma team in a decade. He lost to Vanderbilt. He lost games he shouldn't have lost. He lost to Michigan in the bowl game. And his first effort in a year where he needs to go forward really quickly, his first effort was a 31-17 loss to a team that went 2-10 last year and frankly a team that lost to virginia the other night so i'm not sold that florida state is great i don't think we overreacted i think that game might be a sign that the top of the sec has come down to earth if you look at georgia and tennessee they were very even alabama and georgia very even alabama goes out against florida state and gets gets beat i think the sec is very deep but at the top alabama is nowhere near what they were.

2:26:29Lane Kiffin:Georgia is nowhere near what they were. Texas, the jury is still out, but I think the top of the SEC has really regressed and come down to everybody else.

2:26:38PFT Commenter:Maybe Ole Miss?

2:26:39Lane Kiffin:I don't think so. If we want to talk narratives, that's a game that Lane Kiffin always loses. Ole Miss is a good football team. They're ranked number four. I think that's preposterous as they're number four. And I think even Ole Miss fans, rational ones, would agree. They beat an LSU team who got a lot of credit for beating Clemson. LSU hasn't been good since the Clemson game.

2:26:56PFT Commenter:You did say Clemson was national title worthy.

2:26:59Lane Kiffin:In the offseason, I was totally wrong about that. I and a lot of people whiffed on Clemson. I thought Cade Clubnick was going to be good. Whatever, Clemson's trash. They're not good this year. And LSU just was not very good. If Ole Miss has some games in the second half of the schedule, if they're the number four team, if they're as good as they look, they're going to have to go to Oklahoma and win. They're going to have to go to Georgia and compete. There's a lot going forward. I don't know that there's an elite. I'll just say this. I think there's three teams in the Big Ten better than any team in the SEC right now.

2:27:29Lane Kiffin:I think it's Penn State, Oregon, Ohio State. I'd agree with that. And I think the SEC, as far as the top-end elite playoff contenders, is down a step from where it was. I'd agree with that. You would put Penn State in over anybody from the SEC. I absolutely would.

2:27:42Big Cat:Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, LSU, Texas.

2:27:45Lane Kiffin:We've seen Alabama on the road twice. They won a three-point game at Georgia. They lost by two touchdowns at Florida State. We've seen Georgia on the road. They came back and beat Tennessee, and they come home, and they lose to an Alabama team that is probably fine, but I don't think they're great. It's weird because the top of the SEC, it feels like it has a lot of parity in it. SEC is remarkably deep. Yeah. I think team one to team like 10 has potential to be good. Yeah. But like Oklahoma's number five, Ole Miss is number four. I don't think Oklahoma's the fifth best team in the country. I just don't.

2:28:14Lane Kiffin:They beat an Auburn team that the refs handed them a victory, and they beat a Michigan team who had a freshman quarterback and wasn't even interested in winning that game.

2:28:22Big Cat:Do they take account injuries into the top 25? Well, I guess it's a bunch of different voters.

2:28:27Lane Kiffin:The AP top 25 is one of the bigger disasters we've ever had.

2:28:30Big Cat:We've got to fix that, right?

2:28:31PFT Commenter:I actually don't think we've got to fix that. You like that it's bad? It's good for conversation. It's exactly what it's made for. What is a list created for? A list is created for people to get upset about.

2:28:42Lane Kiffin:To stir up.

2:28:42PFT Commenter:So if it was a perfect grouping of AP voters who always nailed it, it would be the most boring thing ever. We need bias. We need stupid people. We need that woman who's like, I'm not sharing my data and my formula. We need all of that because when you put a list on the internet, you're the king of lists. You know. People go crazy for them.

2:29:01Lane Kiffin:No, I like that it stirs up debate. And I am the king of being able to dispassionately just put out a list and step back and not get mad when somebody else makes a list. I looked at the AP Top 25 yesterday and almost made a video. I'm like, what the fuck are these people doing? So the list is working. It's working. They did the list on you.

2:29:17Big Cat:So what's the Brandon Walker Top 5?

2:29:19Lane Kiffin:So I got Ohio State number one. I think they're a clear number one right now. I have Oregon number two. I put it out last night. Miami three. I don't know who I have for. Somebody – oh, I got Alabama four because I just put them there. If they're going to go to Athens and win, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt for a minute, even though I do still kind of have some doubts. And then number five, I believe I had – Notre Dame. No, I don't have Notre – oh, Texas. I got Texas. But we don't know. We don't know. There's so much we don't know still. But Texas were just kind of waiting on because they had the one game to start.

2:29:52Lane Kiffin:They'd look bad, and now they've just been nursing themselves back to life.

2:29:54Big Cat:Brent, also congratulations on a big loss for you on Saturday.

2:29:58Lane Kiffin:That was the best loss of the weekend. You said that with a very condescending tone. Is that –

2:30:04Big Cat:I don't like that, Brent. Factor fiction.

2:30:06PFT Commenter:I'm going to defend you, Brent.

2:30:07Big Cat:Mississippi State, Tennessee, overtime, that was the biggest loss of the week. No. I mean, like the best.

2:30:14Lane Kiffin:You know, as a Commanders fan, and I've seen you go emotionally through these things where you rationalized losses to yourself over the last few years. So for you to come at me like this is crazy.

2:30:23Big Cat:What you got to do is you got to wait for next week and then Tennessee loses next week and you're like, see, we beat them up too bad. That was one of the better losses in recent memory for us.

2:30:31Lane Kiffin:Yes. A year ago at this exact week, we were non-competitive in a 41-14 loss to Toledo. Toledo's a fine MAAC team, but they are a MAAC team. We shouldn't be non-competitive in a loss to them. Flash forward a year where 4-0. So I thought Tennessee was going to kill us. If you looked at the rosters, if you looked at the lines of scrimmage, Tennessee was towering over us, and we just took it to them. Fluff Bothwell can run it. He's the best. Booth can run it. We ran it down their throat for four quarters, and we had them. We had them down seven with two minutes left. They had fourth and five. They ended up making the play.

2:31:02Lane Kiffin:They beat us. They're a legit top 10 to 12 team. I am very happy with where we are. So your condescension was right. It was a great loss.

2:31:11Big Cat:Right. You like the words. You don't like the tone. I didn't like the tone. But congratulations. But you can't say that's where we go. You can't congratulate somebody on the loss.

2:31:19Lane Kiffin:You were happy.

2:31:20Big Cat:You were okay with the loss.

2:31:21Lane Kiffin:I'm not okay with the loss. I wasn't happy with the loss, but I'm able to look at the loss in the context of where we were and where we are is way better. I think that's fair. Loser talk.

2:31:30PFT Commenter:You've got to change that about you if you want to. But it's steps, right? It's steps.

2:31:35Lane Kiffin:We're climbing a ladder.

2:31:36PFT Commenter:You're still happy with the loss.

2:31:38Lane Kiffin:But you can't.

2:31:38PFT Commenter:And you let him congratulate you.

2:31:39Lane Kiffin:You can't go from flat-footed to being on top of a ladder. You have to climb. What if you just flip the switch? There's no switch to ladders.

2:31:46PFT Commenter:No, but there's the ladders you can just stand on and they just take you up.

2:31:49Lane Kiffin:That's an elevator. Yeah. Or a forklift. Yeah. We don't have a forklift in the SEC. Okay. What about maybe get an elevator? There's not. I don't even know how many elevators in Octavio County. Like six? Well, you don't have hotels. I don't know. You tell us. We have several hotels.

2:32:04PFT Commenter:Several? Oh, yeah. Several. They settle that. At least seven or eight. We stayed at a not great hotel on Friday night. That was a bad hotel. That was a bad hotel.

2:32:13Lane Kiffin:Yeah.

2:32:13PFT Commenter:You could tell right away.

2:32:14Lane Kiffin:My wife is the sweetest, most easygoing thing in the world. She's like, this isn't great.

2:32:17PFT Commenter:No. And it was also like, I think you can tell. It was weird because I was like, maybe this hotel isn't that bad because they had a pantry closet that was stacked. Yeah. Like everything.

2:32:27Lane Kiffin:And a gym that looked good. Gym that looked good. Not a great hotel. When you step onto the elevator and the elevator sinks a little bit. Yep. And it's only three floors.

2:32:35PFT Commenter:Correct. That's always a bad sign.

2:32:36Lane Kiffin:The elevator made noise every floor.

2:32:39PFT Commenter:Three floor elevator that takes about like 25 minutes to go one floor. Not a great sign.

2:32:44Big Cat:Brandon, I got a question for you about the Big Ten, about Indiana. Look ahead. Crystal ball.

2:32:48PFT Commenter:You're respecting them.

2:32:49Big Cat:Crystal ball. What happens after this weekend? Are we still talking about Indiana like they're a team that should be feared?

2:32:55Lane Kiffin:So what are the next three or four games? You got Indiana schedule up in front of you?

2:32:59Big Cat:Let's see what their next three or four games is.

2:33:00Lane Kiffin:So Indiana kills Illinois, right? And it's great. It's fantastic. They did something they didn't do last year. They beat a ranked team.

2:33:06Big Cat:So after, obviously, Oregon, they got Michigan State, then UCLA, then Maryland, then Penn State.

2:33:12Lane Kiffin:Okay, so they're cruising for a while. Even though Maryland's a little sneaky. But listen.

2:33:16PFT Commenter:They are.

2:33:17Lane Kiffin:There's nothing awe-inspiring about what Indiana did at Iowa on Saturday, but I guess you can kind of chalk that up because no visit to Iowa is ever pretty.

2:33:25PFT Commenter:No, Iowa makes you play Iowa.

2:33:26Big Cat:Yeah, I heard a nasty rumor about Brandon Walker this weekend on Saturday. I was having a nice brunch with your co-host, Mark Titus. Sure. And they did the tradition where they waved to the kids. Do you not like that tradition?

2:33:39Lane Kiffin:Oh, he hates it. I do not hate that tradition.

2:33:41Big Cat:Are you the only guy in the world?

2:33:43Lane Kiffin:Don't bring me on the number one sports podcast in the world and ask me this question. This is crazy.

2:33:47Big Cat:Well, when Tice told me that, I was like, that's insane that he hates it.

2:33:49Lane Kiffin:But then I tried to. I do not hate that tradition. I try to think about why. Waving to sick kids is admirable. And it is a wonderful moment. And I almost tear up. I get the tingle, as Dan says, when I see it. however my experience with the Iowa fan base in my life has been a nasty bunch of jackals that called my wife and tried to get her fired that tried to get all my sponsors to drop me deserve to be fired no because she was married to me and I said I can't believe because there

2:34:18PFT Commenter:could be a chance like 2019 sometimes you get it right like you took the wrong path but you got it right like maybe she was bad at her job she deserved to be fired 2019 I said I can't believe

2:34:27Lane Kiffin:we lost this game to Iowa it's the slowest widest team in the big 12 that was me the big 10 and they absolutely came at me and tried to ruin me and everything. After a victory. Iowa fans were nasty and terrible. So what Iowa fans do now is they have this wonderful, incredible tradition where they wave, and boy, do they make sure you know how great people they are for doing it. That's my stance on it. When I heard that you were not a fan of the

2:34:48Big Cat:wave, I tried to put... I didn't say I wasn't a

2:34:50PFT Commenter:fan of the wave. This is crazy. He's got you in front of me. I tried to put myself in your brain. Throw me a rope. I'm going to save you. I'm going to save you. I'm going to throw you a rope.

2:34:58Lane Kiffin:You're not saving me, are you?

2:34:59PFT Commenter:No, I'm going to sink myself i'm trying to figure out how i'm gonna sink myself because i recently when ruckers did the drone thing none of the kids in iowa could see it you're in new jersey correct yeah yeah that was it you know why ruckers did that yeah to make themselves feel good about themselves i was

2:35:15Lane Kiffin:i think it was a cool moment but it's like dude no one no one could see it i know a lot of bad people in the iowa fan base who try to make themselves feel good and look good because of their participation in the way it is it's a very nice thing i i almost tear up every time i see it It's beautiful.

2:35:30Big Cat:I thought your take was going to be, if you want to make those kids happy, score some points.

2:35:34Lane Kiffin:Yeah. I could have gone that way. Instead, I probably made it worse for myself. Did you see the Rutgers one, PFT? I did see that, yeah.

2:35:41PFT Commenter:Did you initially? I hate that my brain initially went there, but I was like, you're in New Jersey. You can't see that. Seven or eight states away.

2:35:49Big Cat:Listen, I always tear up when I see drones. Also, it's a Friday night. All those sick kids probably in the bed.

2:35:53PFT Commenter:I guess they could have shown them the video of it. That's kind of cool. Now that I'm talking it out, they could have shown them. I love aviation.

2:35:58Lane Kiffin:I think the six-year-old kid who's fighting for his life is like, what is a Rutgers? Yeah, probably.

2:36:04PFT Commenter:Probably. I think Indiana's good.

2:36:07Lane Kiffin:I think Indiana's a very – they look very solid so far. My doubts about them last year were never about the team. It was about the fact that we just – the national media, everybody ignored the fact – That video was – you got to stop with these videos.

2:36:19PFT Commenter:This is a little kid, like – They got that spot because of their schedule. It's an amazing thing that they do. Jesus Christ, Max, stop. You're going to make me cry.

2:36:29Lane Kiffin:it's fucking incredible. There's nothing I can do now for the rest of this interview. What I love is that it's fucking incredible.

2:36:34PFT Commenter:I'm going to cry right now. I carried you to a trivia championship, man.

2:36:37Lane Kiffin:They put their hearts in it.

2:36:39Big Cat:I carried you to a championship, and you do this to me? You got me in some sort of panic room over here right now, Brandon. I just carried you to a championship. I got you a ring. I had a bad back. Brandon. My teammate's coach died.

2:36:53PFT Commenter:Brandon. Yeah. Notre Dame. I said to Notre Dame fans after week two, you're in the exact same spot that you were last year. Yeah. There's – and by exact same spot, Northern Illinois, that loss was two losses. It was a joke. You can't lose another one after that. They lost to two potentially – most likely college football teams, playoff teams in Texas A &M and Miami. Close games, both of them. I don't think A &M's a playoff team, but sure. Maybe. But the SEC's chaos. The SEC kind of is the Big 12 this year. Yeah. Where it's just like, we don't know. I think Notre Dame's going to go to the playoff I think they're going to CJ Carr is the real deal I did that rant trying to reel Notre Dame fans back in because a lot of them were like season's over I think they're going to run the table I think they're going to go to the playoff

2:37:40Lane Kiffin:A, Notre Dame is absolutely going to the playoff Number two, they're not nearly as good a team as they were last year

2:37:46PFT Commenter:No, but they also are kind of figuring it out because Arkansas, I know that game got away and what Notre Dame did offensively was incredible but the sneaky part is Arkansas's offense is really good. They shut them down.

2:37:57Lane Kiffin:Yeah, they shut them down. They dominated Arkansas. They absolutely killed them. They're going to put it together over these next eight weeks as they have a schedule that nurses them back to health like they had last year. But they have a good offense. I love CJ Carr. I love the running back. I love the receiver. Great house. I love so much about Notre Dame, but at the end of the day, they're going to make the playoff, and that defense is going to hold them back.

2:38:20PFT Commenter:Yeah.

2:38:20Lane Kiffin:But they're going to playoff.

2:38:21PFT Commenter:Their season is like – They're going to go 10-2, and they're going to the playoff. There was doom and gloom, and it was like you're – this is just a groundhog's day of last year.

2:38:29Lane Kiffin:They also lost – this is why when they were 0-2 and still ranked, I didn't have a problem with that one because they lost a one-point game on a missed extra point to Texas A &M with a bad call on the 4th and 11, and they lost a three-point game on the road against Miami. I think Miami's very, very good. So, like, I have no problem with Notre Dame being ranked after they were 0-2, and I have no problem saying right now they're going to go 10-2 and go to the playoff.

2:38:49Big Cat:When you're doing the official Brenton Walker rankings, Do you rank them based on their resume, or do you rank them based on which team would beat other teams?

2:38:56Lane Kiffin:I base it on what I need to base it on in that moment. For some teams, it's resume. For some teams, it's just how I feel about them. I like that.

2:39:01Big Cat:And there's no insight into your algorithm.

2:39:03PFT Commenter:Do you know what you've got to say when people get mad about it? Yeah. You say, my rankings remain fluid. That is what I'm –

2:39:09Lane Kiffin:They're always fluid. I'm not going to sit there and go into my logic or my process. Those are my rankings. Like Oklahoma, technically right now, they have a win over Auburn. They have a win over Michigan. I don't think either of those teams are any good. Oklahoma's number five in the country. I think that's poppycock. I think they should be like number 12. I think that's the first time poppycock has ever been said on this show. I've been trying to work poppycock into the rotation a lot lately. It didn't really land like you thought it did. You went, oh. Because it's a ridiculous thing. No, it landed.

2:39:37Lane Kiffin:Don't act like that didn't land. It was a hard P.

2:39:40Big Cat:Poppycock landed. Is that what you say when you whip out your dick in the middle of the night? No, no, Dan. Did you bleep that? Let's bleep that. I don't want that.

2:39:48PFT Commenter:You were standing on the tarmac and waving me in and said, oh, wow, here. A lot of trouble there. I don't want what word he just said to be out there.

2:39:56Lane Kiffin:You waved the plane in and then brought it to a stop. And you're like, oh, you didn't land. That's bullshit what you just did.

2:40:02Big Cat:There's nobody that stands on the runway that waves the plane in, you idiot. There's somebody up in air traffic control that guides them in. There's nobody on the runway. They get run over by a plane. They're on the tarmac then. Excuse me. No, they're not on the tarmac.

2:40:14Lane Kiffin:There's somebody out there doing this to planes. That's when the plane's taxiing. after it's so they've already landed and then they tax them in yeah but that dan's still taxing them in and telling them to park and then you do this i did that for two years buddy i was i was on the tarmac that's poppycock that's hogwash that's hog working on hogwash and poppycock talk to me about about the you yeah i think they're real good they're another one that's like we're gonna find out a lot this weekend we are i this is a very dangerous and scary spot for them alabama already went there and lost and this is a team that everything's been going well so far everything's going great but it's not a team historically who has weathered the highs and lows of season or the the slings and arrows of a season like they they can get tripped up uh i like them i like their defensive line i like bane i like their their weapons they put together offensively i love carson back but this is terrifying to go to a desperate florida state team so i i might be

2:41:07Big Cat:over leveraged in in the u in my futures i've got carson back to win the uh heisman trophy and then I also took a flyer on Bain because it feels like there's nobody that's separated themselves just yet at the quarterback position.

2:41:20Lane Kiffin:No, his quarterback's kind of been running in mud this season so far. It's not been very exciting. A great defensive lineman put up some numbers maybe? Possibly. I'd watch for a receiver or a running back to possibly break through too. Jeremiah Smith is lurking. All the receivers and running backs are lurking. If any running back can put up like a 230 or a 250, somebody's going to go far.

2:41:41Big Cat:Speaking about Smith, the game against Washington this weekend, it felt like Ohio State was kind of stuck in mud. They got stuck in a rock fight in the first half. Yeah. And then kind of – they were clearly the better physical team, and they just kind of wore Washington down.

2:41:54PFT Commenter:They played with their food a little bit. I think that was almost intentional. Yeah. Because it was Sane's first road start, and they're like, hey, let's not – our defense – their defense is awesome. It's lights out. It's lights out. Yeah. Are they better than last year? I can't say they're better than last year. You could if you wanted to. Look, I'll say it. Ohio State's better this year than last year.

2:42:13Lane Kiffin:But do you believe it?

2:42:14PFT Commenter:No, but I said it.

2:42:16Lane Kiffin:I can't make myself say it right now. It's really easy to say. Hold on, let me try. You try.

2:42:21Big Cat:This Ohio State team is better than last year.

2:42:23Lane Kiffin:Yeah, there you go. That came out easy.

2:42:26Big Cat:Undefeated against Michigan so far.

2:42:28Lane Kiffin:Okay, I could say it easily. I don't think I could make myself believe it. The team had two crazy hiccups where they lost the one-point game in Oregon and then did whatever they did against Michigan. That mental thing got them. but they got to play that was a historic we'll never see a run like that in the playoff again where they beat four teams like that by double digits three teams whatever it was four teams right yeah i mean they barely beat texas and texas might suck texas this year this year yeah i mean that was again that was easing into the pool though that offense they were not that offense they were running against texas they were just they got the lead and they kind of just

2:43:02PFT Commenter:yeah i think you're gonna see oh open up gradually start to take off like you even saw it in that game. Because Sagan's ready to take the next step, I think. Right, and you saw in that game when they're like, oh yeah, Jeremiah Smith, let's do the Jeremiah Smith play.

2:43:14Lane Kiffin:Yeah.

2:43:15PFT Commenter:And they'll do that. Yeah, we need to go and get six right here.

2:43:18Lane Kiffin:Arnell Tate's really good, too. We need to go and get six. Let's give it to Jeremiah.

2:43:20Big Cat:When Smith got the ball, it's like, oh, that guy's just way faster than everybody else on the field. They should do that more. Yeah. And they will.

2:43:26Lane Kiffin:Yeah, I think they're easily the best team in the country right now. I think their defense is outstanding, but I'm just not ready to say they're better than last year. Do you buy Bryce Underwood? I kind of do. I buy stock for the future. I don't buy him with Sharon Moore as his head coach. Oh. I think Sharon Moore is a very good head football coach. Why? And he's just – you saw when we – to get Bryce running, they had to be coached by Biff. Yeah, Biff. Biff's the guy that said, hey, let's run him. We got this guy who's a one-of-a-kind unicorn. Why don't we use him? And meanwhile, every time Sharon Moore is at the controls, he's a pocket passer.

2:44:00Lane Kiffin:That's absurd. I agree. And he's also an 18-year-old kid or an 18-year-old freshman. His running game is going to be ahead of his passing game right now. Why are you making him process defenses? Let him use his athleticism.

2:44:12PFT Commenter:Yeah, I agree with all that. I'm buying stock in him, though.

2:44:14Lane Kiffin:Oh, he's great. He's going to be great. The stock has to be through the roof, though. This is a five-star quarterback, number one quarterback in the country. It took like a minor dip at the start of the year. He's a Heisman Trophy caliber quarterback in year two or three. Yeah. Can we talk openings? Yeah, we can talk openings. Can we talk about the Arkansas opening first? Well, no, I was going to ask you what your favorite opening was. I love – are you looking for some sort of bodily pun here? I asked you a question. Arkansas is my favorite opening right now because – I was going to say vagina.

2:44:42Lane Kiffin:It was clearly engineered. It was clearly engineered from – Bobby Petrino just pulled a coup. Yeah, he did. He fired all the defensive guys. And nobody's talking about it. Bobby Petrino, the guy who 10 years ago was in a neck brace with his face, got asphalt all over it, and he resigns in shame because he's been fucking somebody. And then he goes off and tries and has to do a new career. Two years ago, dumbass Sam Pittman says, hey, man, come on back to Arkansas. Help me get this thing in the right direction. And Bobby's like, oh, yes, sir. Comes in and immediately starts making plans to take over.

2:45:14Lane Kiffin:I guarantee you, Bobby Petrino, if you asked him right now, are you the interim coach at Arkansas or are you the coach at Arkansas? He's going to say, I'm the coach at Arkansas. He fired three defensive assistants. Remember, he was an assistant three days ago. And he's immediately firing assistants. What an asshole. entire defensive staff. What a fucking asshole.

2:45:31Big Cat:But we knew he was an asshole. It's a very funny move that he pulled off. And he pulled it off perfectly. He had maybe the... If you were to draw up a guy in a lab that you could engineer a coup from under, it's probably Sam Pittman.

2:45:41Lane Kiffin:Sam Pittman is the most oblivious to coups in the world. Well, he also wanted to get

2:45:46PFT Commenter:fired. He like... Wasn't there a story that he basically went to them and being like hey, you want to just do this before the season started? Like you owe us a lot of money. His agent was like, you owe me a lot of money. You owe Sam Pittman a lot of money. Let's just do this now.

2:46:00Lane Kiffin:Fired head coach in college football is the best job in the entire world.

2:46:03PFT Commenter:Yep. By the way, I would have said my favorite opening, Kevin spilling the chili. It's a great opening. A cold opening? Yeah.

2:46:09Lane Kiffin:I like the Backstreet Boys song on Brooklyn Nine-Nine.

2:46:13Big Cat:Okay.

2:46:13Lane Kiffin:Where they do, I want it that way.

2:46:14Big Cat:Not familiar with that one. It's a cold opening. Let's say, hypothetically, Bobby Petrino is not going to stick around. Yeah.

2:46:19PFT Commenter:He's sticking around. He's going to – they'll have to kick him out. He's going to – he's already got – he's got his claws in there. There's a lot of money.

2:46:27Lane Kiffin:Dwight Schrute moving into Michael's office and painting the walls black already. Yeah, there's a lot of money.

2:46:32PFT Commenter:If they win a couple games, he's sticking around.

2:46:33Lane Kiffin:Yeah, and I assume they probably will. They got the quarterback. They got a decent roster.

2:46:38Big Cat:Paints the walls milky white, sticky, viscous. So let's say hypothetically he's not the coach, though.

2:46:44Lane Kiffin:Yeah.

2:46:45Big Cat:What are the guys that Arkansas is going to look at? Because they got a ton of money. The Walmart money, the chicken money, the Jerry Jones money. Just saved a bunch of money on Micah Parsons.

2:46:54Lane Kiffin:I think Rhett Lashley, SMU, went to the playoff last year. He's an Arkansas guy. Went to Arkansas. I think he played at Arkansas. Rhett Lashley is where it probably starts. G.J. Kinney from – I always get North Texas and Texas State confused. He's from Texas State. They're going to look at guys all over in that footprint and everything. But Lashley is probably the number one guy. And they'll say John Gruden and they'll say all these big names. But I think Rhett Lashley is probably the one that got circled. What about Florida? John Summerall, by the way, is another one. two-lane to the SEC. He's going from two-lane to the SEC, whether it's Kentucky, Arkansas, wherever it is.

2:47:31Lane Kiffin:He's definitely got an SEC job next year. Florida is interesting, right? Florida, to me, should be Lane Kiffin. They should do everything in their power to get Lane Kiffin. He's a national championship coach at a place that probably can't win a national title. They're very good, and I'm not taking a shot at Ole Miss, but Florida is a place that can win a national title in the next three to five years. But Lane hasn't shown the desire to really get out of there. So he might be settled in. I'd look at Drink at Missouri if I'm Florida. I think Drink, Lane's getting the credit for what he's done at Ole Miss.

2:48:03Lane Kiffin:Drink has done the exact same thing. He went 11-2, beat Ohio State in the bowl game a couple years ago. He just missed the playoff last year. I think they were 9-3. I think they're a playoff team this year. Drink at Florida could be a menace. I know a lot of people say Jed Fish at Washington because he's got Florida ties. I don't think he's won enough to do it. I would go Lane or Drink if I have my wishes at Florida and I'm Scott Strickland of the AD, I would start with Lane. If he says no, which I think he probably will, and then I'd go to drink. Did you bury Dabo? I haven't buried Dabo. I have...

2:48:36Lane Kiffin:I don't know what I've done with Dabo. I think that Dabo...

2:48:40PFT Commenter:Is trying to bury himself? No. Well, yeah, maybe. But I saw that whole rant that he did where he's like, you guys are spoiled, all this stuff. I don't know if he said spoiled. I get it between Barry Alvarez and Brian Kelly. Everyone's saying spoiled these days. But pretty much like, we've won. We suck this year. We might go 6-6. Would Dabo get a premier job? I don't think he would. Can I go backwards again? And when I say premier, I'm saying a top of Florida. Let's use Florida.

2:49:10Lane Kiffin:I just said drink. I just said Lane. If you're Florida and you fly into Greenville, South Carolina and you have him meet you in the private plane and you say, Dabo, I'm willing to give you this job. If you embrace the transfer portal, if you change what you're doing, if I know that you've got a national championship coach in you, if you will meet these two things, transfer portal, NIL, and fully embrace it and unlock the potential of Florida, I think he would be an incredible fit at somewhere like Florida. I don't think he would. Because he has. He thrived in the last era of college football. If he just tweaked his recipe to cook with the ingredients that modern college football has, I think he'd be that coach again.

2:49:49Lane Kiffin:why if you're florida keep in mind the last couple times they've put out a help wanted sign at florida they haven't exactly been beating the door down to come coach at the university of florida they have they got ull's coach they got mississippi state's coach one time they got uh central michigan's coach they got macklewane they got must champ like this isn't a job that people are

2:50:09PFT Commenter:beating down the door to get what if what if dabbo there's a little bit of uh you could say like analogies here with Belichick in the fact that Belichick by all intents and purposes wanted to or by everything we've we've read wanted to stay in the NFL yeah was went and did meetings was like it's my way or the highway this is how I'm doing it I've won the Super Bowls this is how I do it I'm gonna not gonna change I'm gonna be the same guy had to go to college football what about Dabo Sweeney coaching the Miami Dolphins that would be so fucking funny he would ask he would hate no I don't want that rah-rah shit in the NFL I don't want that running out What if every college team is like no dude you won't do the transfer He's like you know what I'm going to the fucking NFL

2:50:53Lane Kiffin:I know he's not modernizing his game but he is the most College football guy in the history of the world I could never see him in the NFL But that would be awesome

2:51:00Big Cat:He's like a small town warlord and he controls everything He's great when he does it but yeah you go to the He would retire before Nick Saban retired at Miami

2:51:08Lane Kiffin:If you're the Florida AD and you're sitting there Or even Arkansas AD or Oklahoma State AD And you're sitting there talking to Dabo and Dabo convinces you, he says, listen, I know why I went wrong at Clemson. The game changed. I didn't change with it. I thought I could keep doing what I was doing. At Florida, I'm going to be Mr. Transfer Portal. I'm going to be Mr. NIL. Don't you give him a shot. I mean, I actually think Oklahoma State should.

2:51:30Big Cat:I just don't think he'll change. I think that's like the perfect school for him.

2:51:34PFT Commenter:But that's not a premier job.

2:51:35Big Cat:Yeah.

2:51:35Lane Kiffin:But him changing is contention on him. Him taking a job is contention on him changing. If he sits down with ADs and says, I'm not going to change, they're not going to hire him.

2:51:44PFT Commenter:Well, I also think he might say he's going to change, but he's not going to change. Well, then that's a different story entirely. I think that's a very good – why wouldn't he have changed?

2:51:51Lane Kiffin:He's the biggest bullshit artist in the world. You think he can't sit with somebody and convince them he's going to change? I don't think he'd even say that, though. I think he's so on record. He's going to have to sit back and realize there's a reason this thing went wrong. He's trying to recruit from high school and develop. Well, the problem is if you recruit from high school and develop and the players don't turn into something, you're stuck with bad players. You're stuck with disappointing players. If you don't have a coaching staff that he used to have with Brent Venables that can develop the players, you better go out and get finished products right now like Miami's doing, like Ole Miss is doing, and he won't do it.

2:52:23Lane Kiffin:Should LSU panic? Yeah, LSU should panic. LSU's got the wrong coach.

2:52:27PFT Commenter:They've got a bad offense.

2:52:28Lane Kiffin:LSU's had the wrong coach the whole time. No matter – they beat Clemson and everybody put them up to the top five, including myself. I'm like, wow, what an impressive road win. Clemson's falling apart. They're 1-3. LSU hasn't looked good since. Brian Kelly does not fit LSU football. You did not see the very last run play of the game. What very last? By the way, at the end of that game, I was in absolute hell.

2:52:53Big Cat:That was three weeks ago. I'm talking about the last run play with Brian Kelly. We ran the ball pretty good, yeah.

2:52:59Lane Kiffin:I don't know, man. I just think Brian Kelly doesn't fit, and no matter what happens, if he wins the next six games, as soon as he loses the seventh, that the fan base is going to turn on him again because they don't like him. They pretend to like him when he's winning, when things are okay. They don't like him, and I don't think he likes them. I don't think anyone likes him. No, he's not a likable guy.

2:53:17PFT Commenter:No, he's the most unlikable guy there is.

2:53:20Lane Kiffin:And you guys know. You guys have been there. Like, LSU thrives on who its coach is. Yeah. They thrive on him being one of us or us rallying behind him. Yeah. And they don't like this motherfucker.

2:53:30Big Cat:You can be a fucking idiot, and they'll love you. Yeah, correct. Les Miles, he won in spite of himself so much, and they loved him for him. Because they're going to take care of the recruiting.

2:53:39Lane Kiffin:Every five-star in Louisiana is raised to be an LSU Tiger. Every four-star is raised to be an LSU Tiger. As long as you don't actively fuck it up, you're going to be fine, and I just don't think he is.

2:53:50Big Cat:Yeah. All right. Good talk, Brandon. I got a couple questions. Actually, have you – I can't tell if you're ending the interview or continuing the interview. I'm not. I got a question kind of out of left field. Have you looked at Washington State's schedule?

2:54:03Lane Kiffin:No, I know they play bizarrely at Ole Miss in a couple of weeks.

2:54:06Big Cat:It's like the most chaotic college football schedule that I've ever seen.

2:54:10Lane Kiffin:Can y 'all just never ask me about Oregon State and Washington State because it makes me sad. It is sad. It makes me sad. There's two places that should be okay in football. Some conference should have thrown them a life raft and said, come on over here. We know that it went wrong for you guys, but come on over here. I don't like them floating in the – yeah, but who knows?

2:54:29Big Cat:They're going to link up. It's weird. I hope. They're playing against Ole Miss. They're going on the road to Mississippi. They're playing at Virginia. They play Oregon State twice. Yeah. They've got two games against Oregon State. They should do it like aggregate score. Yeah. Like in the EPL.

2:54:45Lane Kiffin:It's so weird that we're just marching on in college football without those two programs. Those programs are just doing weird shit like playing twice. They exist. They're technically playing college football, but they're not playing the same game. Isn't there going to be a new Pac-12 with the Mountain West? It's coming. It's coming, but once the toothpaste is out of the tube, how do you put it back in?

2:55:04Big Cat:I agree. It's fucked up. And so many of these schools that they're playing against, I feel bad for their staff.

2:55:09Lane Kiffin:And they're going to be 10 years behind. Nobody wants to go play at Washington State or Oregon State currently. They're going to be 10 years behind everybody else.

2:55:14PFT Commenter:All right. I got one last question for you, Brandon, because it's kind of off of this conversation. Roback question. RHOBACK.com. Promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com. Promo code TAKE. We are in year two of the 12-team playoff. I think it's working I think it's absolutely working I liked it like and I know there will be people like there's a lot of things that have changed about college football I'm very nostalgic about college football 20 years ago Washington State Oregon State being that I missed the Pac-12 there's a lot of shit that's happened that I don't agree with there's probably more shit coming that it's going to suck I like the fact that we saw Penn State and Oregon like go at each other and it's not the end of Penn State I like that Notre Dame is going to get another chance to be back in this thing.

2:56:01Lane Kiffin:I love a world where we see Penn State lose that game, and 10 years ago that would have been crushing. It would have been over. And it's September 27th, and all the hope is sucked out of the building. Well, now they don't have – I mean, they're kind of allergic to hope right now because every time they get to a big game. But, yeah, they're going to have a second chance to put this thing back together and get back in it. Ohio State last year had one of the most embarrassing losses we've ever seen and then lost an incredible run through the playoff. It was awesome. I love the fact that these elite teams, really every team, has a chance to right the ship after something goes horribly wrong.

2:56:34Lane Kiffin:I think the playoff is great. I think 16 is going to be the perfect number. 12 is okay. But the one thing we've got to fix is last year we had a couple teams get in there just because of their schedule. And if we can tweak that and figure that out down the road and truly get the 12 best teams at the end of the season, that would be great. I love the 12.

2:56:51PFT Commenter:The big complaint that I've seen is that it gives Ohio season better, by the way. Right. I do, too. I do, too, because you have these big weekends and you get into November where it's like a two-loss team playing a two-loss team. That game wouldn't have mattered at all. Now it could be everything. You get more games that feel like they matter going up, leading up to the playoffs. The one complaint that I understand is you will have the same four or five teams win the national championship every year because you give a team like Ohio State a second shot, a third shot last year.

2:57:21Lane Kiffin:but we had that anyway what's the difference we had that anyway it turns out the elite teams are going to win the championship right and that's how it's going to happen but now you're never

2:57:29PFT Commenter:going to get the parody that you have in the nfl and college football and the fact that there's never going to be a team that starts in the 50s right is like oh they won the title but that's

2:57:37Lane Kiffin:just how it is that's how it's always how it's always been it's how it's always going to be in november 2014 we're taking a random year as the first year of the playoff probably had six huge games in november of last year probably 25 yeah and this year it's more wide open i think we'll probably have 30 huge games.

2:57:52PFT Commenter:And getting to the playoff is going to be, for a lot of these schools, like winning a national title. Like, if Wisconsin ever gets to the playoff, I'm going to be like, that was the coolest thing ever.

2:58:00Lane Kiffin:Yeah, I think Indiana, like last year, that's such a great story, Indiana making the playoff. Ole Miss is a good example. They're number four right now. If Ole Miss makes the playoff, that's a huge fucking thing for them. Like, this is – it's okay. There's more seats at the table. There's more chances for everybody to come away happy. And you whittle – I'm glad – who was the best team in college football last year? Ohio State. I'm glad their season wasn't over when they lost to Michigan. But not as good as Ohio State this year. Don't think so. They were the best team. They won the national title.

2:58:27Lane Kiffin:And if people want to be moan that, sorry, they were the best team.

2:58:30PFT Commenter:They do just need to get more games at home stadiums. The second round should also be. You think it should go all the way through the semis? I think it just strips it so much when you play those. Like, what was it, Boise and Penn State playing in Arizona? I don't know.

2:58:45Lane Kiffin:Yeah, but here's the thing. Did we have any good games on campus last year? No, right? None of them were good. Yeah, well, that was the first round. The first round's going to be tough. Wasn't Boise at Boise? No, Boise was in the – they had the bye.

2:58:55PFT Commenter:Boise had the bye, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but that's – I do think it should be two rounds at campus. Because there's nothing – the one thing that college football has that will always beat the NFL is the home environment on a Saturday.

2:59:10Lane Kiffin:So the home games last year were SMU at Penn State. Yep. Clemson at Texas. Yep. Indiana at Notre Dame. Yep. which was an incredible scene.

2:59:19PFT Commenter:Ohio State and Tennessee. Ohio State and Tennessee. And that was a cool scene, too. That was a very cool scene. None of the games were close. None of the games were close, but you know what I'm saying? That's the specialness. The NFL is always going to be king, but what we saw at Happy Valley on Saturday night and between the hedges, Ole Miss, you can't replicate those type of Saturdays. And it's something special about on campus.

2:59:44Lane Kiffin:You're right. More of that would be better. I think when we go to 16, you could have two rounds at home and still have whatever.

2:59:52Big Cat:So if the playoff were today, is that different from your top 12 list?

2:59:59Lane Kiffin:Yeah, that's a little different. I don't know. I think there's so much we don't know still. When I do a ranking and people are wondering, hey, why is Texas number five? Who have they beaten? They haven't beaten anybody. They haven't beaten anybody, but let's call a spade a spade here. They had one game on the road against Ohio State, and then they had their four nobodies. A lot of teams had their four nobodies to begin with. They had their four nobodies, and now they start back really building up again. And I think Texas, the defensive talent on that team is crazy. I think they've spent the last month of the season getting ready.

3:00:29Lane Kiffin:I'm just speculating on – you're still speculating on so many teams in the top ten.

3:00:33Big Cat:Is now the time – are you still buying Texas Tech stock?

3:00:36Lane Kiffin:Oh, I think if you haven't bought it by now, you waited too late. I think they're clearly the best team in the Big 12. It's too late to buy that stock. I think they are clearly the best team in the Big 12. TCU, I would have given a chance if they went – second best team is probably Arizona State, who lost to Mississippi State but has won two in a row on the road at Baylor and then beating TCU at home. I think Texas Tech outclasses everybody in that conference by a mile. Agreed. And they got a tough one this week. Listen, Houston's quietly – Yeah, Willie Fritz. Willie Fritz is a good coach. So Texas Tech's got a sneaky tough one, but I think the amount of talent they went out and bought, and that used to be an insult calling somebody a cheater, but now it's a badge of honor.

3:01:12Lane Kiffin:Yeah, good for them. Good for them. Congrats to their alumni. They went out and changed their paradigm, changed who they are, and now I think they're the easily best team in the Big 12.

3:01:21PFT Commenter:Yeah.

3:01:21Lane Kiffin:All right. Okay. Brandon. Brandon Walker. So I just got through the whole interview. Fornelli never came in? Never came in. Nobody came in? Nope. There was no surprise. Is there a Fornelli filter on my face? No. He is probably going to say tomorrow. Yeah. He would be correct. What are you about to say? Don't say it. Just don't say it. What if he just didn't say it? What if he just didn't say that he turned this down?

3:01:43PFT Commenter:He would be correct in saying that he turned it down and then you came on. But it was fluid. It was like your rankings. It's fluid. It's like water.

3:01:52Lane Kiffin:Let's be honest. God's watching right now. He had a busy schedule today. We have a busy schedule. We had the yak at noon. We had this interview at 2 o 'clock. You asked me to do this at 11.45. As you just walked out the door and said, hey, do PMT today. I said, okay. Fornelli really turned it down?

3:02:08PFT Commenter:Well, he didn't turn it down. I said to him, hey, can you come on today? And he said, I'm free between 12 and 2 and 3 and 6. The only time we had was between 2 and 3. So, you know what? Best ability is available.

3:02:21Lane Kiffin:I won this. I won this last year. I had a competition against him. Who'd you have that won the championship last year? I don't remember how I won it. I just know I won it. I don't think. I know Ohio State. Did you? Almost certainly. Almost certainly. Almost certainly. I don't know that you did. I killed him in that playoff.

3:02:37PFT Commenter:No, this is this year. You're looking at this year.

3:02:41Lane Kiffin:Last year, I had Ohio State, and they won the championship. That was your pick? I won, didn't I? You did win. You did win. I won, motherfucker. As I won dingers only.

3:02:48PFT Commenter:Yeah.

3:02:49Lane Kiffin:You win. You're a winner. Yeah. PFT, didn't you offer$1 ,000 cash to the winner of Dingers Only? You did.

3:02:53Big Cat:You're a great winner. You're also the best loser.

3:02:56Brandon Walker:How do you feel about your picks this year for this competition?

3:02:59PFT Commenter:Yeah, so your picks. I'm not even worried about it until. You actually have some good value. You have Penn State, Texas, Notre Dame, LSU. I gave you Texas. Oregon late. Oh, yeah. You're looking good. He falls off a cliff. Poise State, Baylor, Missouri. Missouri's not bad. He has A &M and Texas Tech late, though. Yeah, yeah. Tom has Ohio State, Clemson out. Georgia, Miami, that's a good pick. Alabama, Michigan, Utah, Texas A &M, and Texas Tech with the last. I mean, listen, it was a draft.

3:03:27Lane Kiffin:Once you get past like seven or eight, it's tough.

3:03:29Big Cat:Well, it looks like he had A &M at eight. That's pretty good.

3:03:33PFT Commenter:He also got Texas Tech at 13. Watch a lot.

3:03:35Big Cat:That's a great draft. Great draft. And I think we were giving you that. Wow. I gave you Texas. It says right there, PFT put Brandon on Texas.

3:03:42Lane Kiffin:No, it doesn't say that. It says also PFT's pick.

3:03:44Big Cat:Yeah, I gave you Texas.

3:03:45Lane Kiffin:So after I said Texas, you were like, me too.

3:03:46Big Cat:I said, I'll put you on some game. You said ditto. I think Texas might be good this year.

3:03:49Lane Kiffin:They were number two in the country. No, they were number one. I told you about Texas. I appreciate that. The team that made the playoff two years in a row.

3:03:57Big Cat:He said, Arch who?

3:03:58Lane Kiffin:That might still be true.

3:03:59Big Cat:Yeah, that is true. How do you feel about field storming? Are we still doing this? Yeah, one last question. Were you concerned? Has field storming gone too far?

3:04:07Lane Kiffin:I'm a little concerned that that was the greatest field storming ever, and it might lead to field storming being pulled back entirely.

3:04:13PFT Commenter:Did you see that one Twitter account, SEC fan, who they hypothetically win field storming too. They're like, if this happened to the SEC, everyone would have been dead. Hypothetically, they win those. I love that.

3:04:26Lane Kiffin:Mississippi State got fined$500 ,000 for a field storm that was nowhere even close to that. If they were in the SEC, they would get fined like$2 million.

3:04:34Big Cat:Yeah. Where do they get fined in the ACC?

3:04:36Lane Kiffin:I don't even know. I haven't seen anything.

3:04:38Big Cat:Virginia's never had this problem before.

3:04:39Lane Kiffin:They're like, hey, you haven't been here. We got to let you in. Good for you guys.

3:04:42Big Cat:Yeah. The protocol on that. Yeah.

3:04:44Lane Kiffin:They just sacrificed the Florida State receiver who disappeared into the crowd.

3:04:46Big Cat:Yeah. Squirrel white.

3:04:47Lane Kiffin:Was that squirrel white? It was squirrel white. Yeah. Okay. Well, yeah, he's been around long enough. All right. Thank you, Brandon. Yep.

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3:05:36PFT Commenter:We have guys on chicks. Hank. my fiance has a work phone in his normal phone before he got his job he screenshots his bets with his work phone and checks the box score on his normal phone while he watched the games his hands are double fisting iphone like it's bonnie blue does dicks on thursdays sundays and mondays is this behavior i have to expect throughout our marriage even when kids come into

3:06:00Big Cat:play thanks boys go saints what is the two phones for again one is for the box score of the game the The other is for the bets that he currently has in. I think that's fair. I also think that this is probably not written by a girl.

3:06:14PFT Commenter:I was about to say, yeah. Yeah. Double fisting iPhones like Bonnie Blues does.

3:06:19Big Cat:I think it's written by a dude being like, I'm going to write to them, pretend to be a chick and talk about dicks so then they'll want to fuck me as a chick. We need more chicks to write in.

3:06:28PFT Commenter:Yeah, we need more chicks to write in. I would say also you don't really need the box score because if you use DraftKings, wonderful DraftKings, it updates it as it goes. Yeah, you can track it. You can track it right there. Also, I like writing my bets out. It's fun.

3:06:43Big Cat:It's nice to have on a piece of paper. Yeah, just looking at it. Or a whiteboard.

3:06:46PFT Commenter:Or a whiteboard, yeah. Which never hits.

3:06:49Big Cat:What?

3:06:51PFT Commenter:I mean, we never hit the whiteboard. No. I don't actually... Have we ever hit the whiteboard? No. No.

3:06:56Big Cat:Actually, I think maybe once. We hit one last year.

3:06:58PFT Commenter:I think once, yeah. Let's do one that we can hit. Let's win one. Yeah. Okay. Here's a theory the super bowl halftime show is solely a thing to make super bowl sunday more peaceful for the boys it allows them to make a full day out of the super bowl as if it's a holiday because

3:07:13Big Cat:girls love the halftime show so much think about any other sunday during the season no halftime

3:07:18PFT Commenter:show no pregnant rihanna and the girls are nowhere near as willing to allow absolutely nothing to

3:07:22Big Cat:happen besides watching football uh the brazil game had a halftime show yeah shout out mr beast

3:07:27PFT Commenter:christmas i also think the halftime show is irrelevant for that i think everyone watches as a Super Bowl and makes a holiday out of it. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Also, PFT, you were correct in record time. Sage Steele looked through some bad boonie. Baboni? And she found some demonic stuff.

3:07:43Big Cat:Oh, did she? Oh, yeah. Dude, you have to find satanic stuff in the halftime show. Oh, yeah. That is actually the Super Bowl for schizophrenic people. Yeah. It is. That's what they live for. Baboni. Baboni. My panics. Baboni. Josh Allen. My staffer.

3:07:58PFT Commenter:Hey, PMT. So I've gotten really into football in the last couple of years. Do you think my boyfriend is bothered by this? Sometimes I feel like I'm invading his world and that guys don't actually like girls that like sports. I think you guys love to mansplain sports to us. Well, yes.

3:08:11Big Cat:Duh. Yeah. We love to mansplain everything. We like sharing common interests as long as we can teach you something about that common interest. Correct. As long as we feel like we have our claims staked on it already.

3:08:24PFT Commenter:A foundational piece of every relationship is a man answering questions they don't actually know the answer to and a woman just being like, okay. That's a foundational piece. There are many times where I just get asked a question and I'll give an answer because that's just my natural. I have to give an answer even if I have no idea. I'm taking a wild guess and then just moving on.

3:08:48Big Cat:yeah if like if a girl said did you see that jaden daniels has the highest quarterback rating in nfl history for a second year player uh through this many games i would be like that is so hot but then if a girl was like let me explain to you the numbers that go into quarterback rating i would feel so emasculated i would never want to look at no yeah any of the nuance i'm

3:09:09PFT Commenter:getting that but the most recent one i got from my oldest was uh he was like why are sharpies called Sharpies when they're not sharp. And I was like, fuck, dude. That one. I almost just drove off the side of the road. I was like, can't answer that one.

3:09:25Big Cat:But yeah. Do they feel sharp in your ears, Max?

3:09:29Brandon Walker:I always play with this Sharpie. I don't know what that is.

3:09:33PFT Commenter:I think, yeah, girls liking football is awesome. Yeah, it's great. You just got to let, like I said, you just got to let us answer some questions that we don't know the answer to and be okay with being like, yeah, that makes sense,

3:09:44Big Cat:even though it doesn't yeah like nothing nothing makes a guy hotter than being like actually you can't advance that fumble i know you're excited about for a second but that's coming back yeah

3:09:54PFT Commenter:all right then last one meme said read this one last if you want to have fun with it oh okay finish this off this is the question yeah do you guys think double penetration is gay I mean, technically it is, right? Love you guys.

3:10:17Big Cat:We're talking about B and V?

3:10:20PFT Commenter:I think two Ds.

3:10:22Big Cat:Yeah, two. No, D in the V and a D in the A. Yeah, D in the V, D in the A. That's what I'm saying.

3:10:26PFT Commenter:Or two Ds in the V.

3:10:28Big Cat:Oh. Like you're starting a fire? Oh. Either one. No two Ds in the V. that's a 1dv

3:10:37PFT Commenter:yeah that's there's not enough room

3:10:40Big Cat:there's some holes that are 1d this is also just like

3:10:44PFT Commenter:if we started talking about what it would be like to play in the NFL we're not guys that will ever be in the same stratosphere as any of this

3:10:53Big Cat:it's a whole different type of guy that is out there doing d and v and d and a at the same time

3:10:59PFT Commenter:yeah

3:11:01Big Cat:I don't think I've ever found myself in a situation where I've come anywhere close to even thinking about that was going to happen.

3:11:09PFT Commenter:And I would say, no thanks.

3:11:11Big Cat:Yeah.

3:11:12PFT Commenter:I'd be like, maybe me and you could just do it. Yeah. Maybe I'll just go DNV and then you can just do whatever you want after.

3:11:19Big Cat:Yeah. There are a lot of dudes that do the DNM and DNV at the same time. That also has never been. No.

3:11:31PFT Commenter:No. Not even close. Not even close. This is just porn talk.

3:11:35Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah, somebody woke up this morning and just wrote that in. Yeah. Call me old-fashioned. I like a little bit of intimacy. Yeah. Yeah, get your girlfriends right in. Send it to any girl you know. There's too many guys right in. Memes are if you're a girl who listens. Yes. Yeah.

3:11:52PFT Commenter:Yeah, that was bad.

3:11:53Big Cat:That was misogynistic.

3:11:55PFT Commenter:That was not nice. That was bad.

3:11:57Big Cat:I know if it was ever an other. I apologize. Numbers. Three.

3:12:01PFT Commenter:Oh, how did we not get that?

3:12:04Big Cat:I might have No

3:12:06PFT Commenter:Oh

3:12:07Big Cat:No no He got that one

3:12:08PFT Commenter:I actually might be rooting for memes today 22 I think I'm rooting for memes today

3:12:13Big Cat:75

3:12:14PFT Commenter:I need a win 33

3:12:17Brandon Walker:61

3:12:19PFT Commenter:14 19

3:12:23Brandon Walker:99 76

3:12:28Big Cat:If I was in a double D situation I just know I'd like I'd try to cut the tension with a joke That would just ruin the whole mood Just be like I'm trying me hardest I'm trying me hardest Yeah 80 So close Love you guys

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