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29:49Did you bet Drake made it to win the MVP? Yeah. Okay, I was going to say that's probably an easier way to do that than having to follow along. Well, no, yeah, I bet it. Now I'm trying to will my bet to the finish line. All right, here's a fun little thing that I did. He jumped to third last night? Last Tuesday, October 14th. He's fourth. I put a bet on the Commander's Moneyline in Arrowhead on Tuesday, last Tuesday. line value incredible line value it's plus 205 the bet that I got I think they're now plus 800 they're plus 450 okay plus 450 yeah so yes I do have a bet on commander's money line for Monday night Hank is now offended by draft king yeah the Baker is third and Drake Mays fourth that is offensive it's offensive to you I mean you can make money off that though Hank true you got it Hank okay let's do hot seat cool throne It is brought to you by our friends at DraftKings.

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34:05Sounds like you're jealous. Callum sounds like a hot guy name. Yeah, no, he's a hot guy. She's hot. It's a hot couple. They're hot. No beef, but he revealed to the Sunday Times, fiance, so I guess fiance, he revealed that they were reading the same book the night they first met. We sat next to each other on a plane, realized we were reading the same book, which is crazy. It's called Trust by Hernan Diaz. I had just finished the first chapter. I told her and she looked at me and said, I just finished the first chapter too. And I said, so we're on the same page. That's so gross. All right. Do you think it's fake?

34:43Do you think he set it up? That's what I'm thinking, Big Cat. I'm thinking my man Callum did some digging behind the scenes, found out what book she was reading, bought that same book, maybe at the airport bookstore, and then brought it onto the plane so they'll have something to talk about. He's an English actor. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. With an English accent saying, oh, we're on the same page. Oh, so we're on the same page. So we're on the same page. Just try me. That's yeah. Puddles. It's too. Yeah. You got her. It's too much. Too much. But not. Yeah. Whatever. You don't love. You don't love love.

35:17I love love. I just this one. I just couldn't. I couldn't. And it's who cares. It's Hollywood. He couldn't imagine himself bonding with a woman over a book. That's the thing on a plane. Yeah. Fake is plain book story. Love story of all time. I can think of one. My cool throne is Utah Hockey. Oh, okay. They have a hockey team. They have had one. They had one last year. The Mammoth, yeah. No S. The Mammoth. Did it take a while to get to you, the news? Yeah. I knew they had a hockey team. I didn't know it was the Mammoth. I thought they might have changed. The Mammoth is this year. Last year was Utah Hockey Club.

35:58That's what I thought. That's where I got confused. I saw the Sharks because the Sharks haven't won, and the coach said he would give up his kid to get a win, which is tough, like five games in the season. It's tough for the kid. He's basically saying he hates his kid. But then it was like they lost to the Utah Mammoth, and I was confused because I didn't know that was their mascot. Yeah, okay. That was a cool throne knowing the Utah mascot. Yeah, cool throne for you guys. I thought that was going to be a reveal. You thought you were going to reveal that to us? They did a big reveal two weeks ago.

36:32You revealed it to me, Hank. I had no idea. Thank you, Max. Well, you also didn't know that there was a London game until midnight. Yeah. Sometimes you miss stuff. I do like the logo, though. The logo's metal as fuck. It's way better than the hockey club. Yes. And he broke out of a big ice block. The mammoth. I like that. I like when they do mascot origin stories. Yeah. They show the birth of it. Yeah, like Dinger. or when they had the Robo Duck from Oregon pop out of the shell. Yep. Shout out to Mammoth. Shout out to Mammoth. Shout out to Mammoth. We should do that as a weekly segment, the big reveal.

37:11Just something that we can try to stun each other with something that has been out for a while. I mean, you guys are acting like, I'm sure there's a lot of other listeners that did not know that the Utah Hockey Club was not the Utah Mammoth. I think that's fair. That's fair, Hank. Yeah. Thank you. I just saw the video when it came out. So if I hadn't, I'd be with you. I bet there's listeners that didn't even know the hockey season started yet. I bet there are listeners that are shocked that they're listening right now because Max finally pressed the button. This is your... Yeah? Beams is loving this.

37:45Oh, this logo is fucking awesome. Yeah, it's great. The mountains inside of the head. NHL has been on a heater with new logos. Like the Kraken, I'm all on board for that. Mammoth. things are getting better in the hl tusky tusky is his name tusky is the mascot just play fleet with mac tusk love that uh pft uh my hot seat is complaining about the refs yeah because we actually had a ref in the nfl save a man's life last night json yes under attack on the bench and then nfl official he used to play actually in the league nate jones was i think he was a side judge sprinted over weaved his way through the mosh pit and then threw himself onto jsn like a live grenade or he actually did become that meme of the soldier that's protecting yes the person the baby the sleeping baby and uh he shoved jsn's face into his titties gave him a little motorboat little lap dance on the sidelines i just i wish that it had happened to uh like one of the league darlings if this had happened to patrick mahomes and you have a ref that's hugging him that would have been such a good thing that we could just always refer to in the future uh but shout out to this guy put his life on the line uh so we should be we should be saying his name every time we talk about what's his name john hussey john hussey for every john hussey there's getting hussey time there's 10 nate joneses out there that are willing to die to protect a player in the nfl so credit to him strictly facts it was great uh and then my cool throne is sports rivalry specifically the boston new york sports rivalry it's back on hank it's back on there was There's a report that came out yesterday that, well, there's two sides to it.

39:24The Knicks tried to hire Joe Mazzulla last year. Remember when the Knicks were doing their thing where they just, like, asked other teams if they could have their head coaches? And they all said no. And they all said no. They really tried to get Joe Mazzulla. And then the Celtics were like, no, and also here's a new contract, Joe Mazzulla. So we're keeping you around. Now, if James Dolan was, if he was smart, I would say that he's trying to get other teams to just have to pay their head coaches more and driving the price up. I think that was completely unintentional on his part. But how funny would that have been if the Knicks had hired Joe Masao from you?

39:57Memes have been pretty funny, huh? That would have been incredible. Yeah, you tried. And now the Celtics are firing back because the Celtics had Thibodeau at practice this summer working with the team on defense doing film breakdowns. I think it was this week. It was this week? I think it was yesterday. They were doing film breakdowns. I know the story came out yesterday, but he was doing, like, yeah, defensive coaching, like, actually coaching the Celtics. He went through the film of the playoff series and broke down how they won. Yeah. That's crazy. He loves ball so much. He's got to be around ball.

40:33They probably just asked him if he, like, wanted to show up and watch a practice, just, like, you know, be around other coaches, and he probably came prepared with, like, film and notes and, like, a PowerPoint that he would show each player. So, yeah, this is good for the rivalry, good for the sport. That is good for the sport. Great for the sport. You say Mazzola said he would take Jason Brown down to the death. He would take Jason Brown. They said who would win in a fight. Yeah. Jalen Brown was like, I would win in a fight. Mazzola said I would win in a fight. And Mazzola said, like, if I'm going to death, you're coming with me.

41:07Yeah. Yeah, I believe it. But, like, right now with the Achilles and everything? Yeah, I got Mazzola. No, it was Jalen Brown. Oh, Jalen Brown. Oh, that one. I think it would be a double kill. I think I'd take Missoula still. Yeah. He's the type of guy who... I'd take Missoula over anyone. He wants to be in a fight. Yeah. And wrestling. Guys that can wrestle can... Missoula versus Harbaugh. Missoula. Harbaugh's fucking old. Missoula versus Dan Campbell. That's shit. Missoula. Oh, Dan Campbell. Come on. Missoula is like the type of guy to know your pressure points. Dan Campbell. And tap you in a place that you don't even know hurts, and then you're just dead.

41:41Now you're getting the crazy. Dan Campbell would... Yeah, I think he'd smash him. Literally. Missoula. Okay. My hot seats, I have two. I got to remember what my second one was. Oh, first one. Did you want to talk about LeBron? Russell Westbrook? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we could talk about it. Hilarious. I thought it was NBA. What was the exact quote? I thought it was NBA Central. I did too, and then I saw it on The Athletic. I literally thought it was NBA Central, yeah. Russell Westbrook said that he was sick of LeBron's fake shit. Did you see the Will Smith? They had Will Smith come in. It was like they were doing a team meeting.

42:23LeBron and Anthony Davis got out and left. They got up and left. Russell Westbrook went to leave. Pat Bev was like, you got to stay. Those guys won a championship. You didn't. You got to stay. Then they started fighting. Pat Bev and Russ. Yeah, about that. They started fighting. Ham came back with Anthony Davis and LeBron Then Will Smith came in to do some type of speech The actor The actor Supposed to be 30 minute Q &A LeBron asked question after question after question after question And it went on for like an hour So he just had a conversation with Will Smith in front of everyone And Russell Westbrook was fed up There's a hilarious picture of the team with Will Smith After Russell Westbrook is not smiling at all And that's when he was like, I can't do this fake shit I hate that fake shit, I just can't do it LeBron did a very funny report.

43:09He did a podcast with Will Smith in the locker room in front of all his teammates. Yeah. It was like, let's do a Q &A, everyone. And then it was just LeBron, like, question. LeBron, question. LeBron, question. And I guess he was just doing movie quotes and shit. He's looking around the room. Wait, no other questions? Well, if you guys aren't going to take advantage of this great opportunity, I'm going to. That is so funny. I think LeBron might be a Scientologist. I love it. I think he might be so deep into Hollywood right now that he's getting his Theetons checked or whatever. He's ascending to the ninth level.

43:39You sound like you've been sitting next to Jerry for a little bit. No, Scientology. Scientology is a real thing, man. It is. Yeah. Let Russ be Russ. I love Russ. His stock is all the way up. I heard Pat Bev was like, Russ, you haven't won a championship. You do not deserve to fly first class. And then Russ flipped out on him and just went nuclear. Yeah. Fuck that. I'm on the first class list. Wrote a blog about him and everything. Foreplay's on it? I'm on it. Okay, my hot seat. One is, I'll keep this brief, Wisconsin football, just because they're the worst team in college football, power for college football.

44:16It's an absolute joke what's happened to the program. They haven't scored a touchdown in two games. We're losing in completely non-competitive ways. We do have the hardest schedule in the country. What was that net graph you tweeted? I was trying to understand that. I couldn't really wrap my head around it. It was like worst net loss. I can't remember who tweets it. If you can find it, Max, it's did we get beat as bad as it says? And this guy, I want to shout him out, tweets it every single week. We're essentially, did you actually deserve to lose or was it really, really close and the ball bounced against you and you didn't end up?

44:54Here it is. Parker Fleming, stats of war. Great, great account. Did we really get beat that bad net success rates in week eight? See, all the way to the right, Ohio State beat the fuck out of the Badgers. Ohio State's a great team. But the AD came out, Chris McIntosh came out and essentially said, we're not going to change course. We're just going to try to throw more money at it. The money is probably what the NCAA is giving every school. They're giving every school$20 million in the Power 4 next year. So they were going to spend it anyway. They're going to pretend that this is new money. The culture's broken.

45:27The program's broken. Football matters to universities more than people want to admit. I think that if you have a school, a Big Ten school, an SEC school where your football program dies, you are going to lose admissions. You're going to lose money, donors, pride in the school. So that's why the chancellor needs to wake up, wake the fuck up. Chris McIntosh, Luke Fickle, I know both the guys. They're nice guys. I'm not going to say anything mean about them. They both are wrong for the job right now. And to the sunk cost fallacy of essentially saying we made a mistake. We're on a bad path. Let's throw more money at it.

46:06We'll get us deeper into a hole. And I'm starting to think now they're going to be bad for five to seven years minimum. And if they just keep going down this path, it's going to be a decade. Do you think that they're going to spend more money? Or do you think that, like, do you have any knowledge that they're just taking the new money that's coming in? I don't. I think they might try to spend more money. But again, it's sunk cost fallacy where the new money is not going to fix the culture, which is broken. Luke Fickle, I thought, was a great hire at the time. It has been a disaster. I still think he could be a good coach somewhere else.

46:37Not at Wisconsin. You have to look in the mirror and say, this is not working. We need to clean house. Who's going to look in the mirror? I don't know. Hopefully the chancellor does. But clean house because it's very stupid and it's frustrating and I'm very depressed about it. Neutral field game. Wisconsin versus UNC. UNC. You think UNC? Wisconsin, JMU. That's JMU easy. JMU's good. Battle of Madison. They're so bad. They haven't scored in two weeks. They don't score. They don't have anything. They look like they're getting punked everywhere. I feel bad for the guys on the team because they're not being put in a good spot.

47:16And now you're basically saying, hey, we're going to just keep doing it. They have played a very, very hard schedule. We have Oregon who's wearing the coolest jerseys ever. Yeah, I was going to say, at least that game will be vibey. Look at this. We've scored 20 points in the last four weeks. Two touchdowns. Do you guys do sad jump around? Yeah. Like if you're getting your ass kicked. Oh, dude, I have friends who went to the game, the Iowa game. They said it was so depressing. It's just an absolute disaster. And, you know, the only thing you could say about Luke Fickle, I will say the one thing that he has gotten a little screwed at, he has had just the worst luck with QB injuries.

47:49Every year our QB gets injured. But still, you're getting paid a lot of money to build a roster, to build a culture. Have you thought about guys aren't getting better? Let's just say, and we, you know, never talking about another man's job. Fickle might not be the best fit there right now. I don't know if they're actually going to stay with him. It seems like he's probably going to be gone no matter what they'll say right now about the guy. But who would you want next? Jason Eck, Badger, New Mexico head coach. No James Franklin? Culture. I don't think James Franklin would take the job. I would take James Franklin.

48:21Jimmy Leonard as well. although that will not happen if maxill has a job i the other the other part i think they're doing with the sunk cost fallacy is florida's open penn state's open auburn's probably going to be open there's a lot of premier jobs that are open o' miss if lane goes to florida arkansas arkansas so they're saying we don't want to compete against that guess what you don't compete against that the the program's bottomed out you have to look in the mirror and say where who are we as a program we are not even a guy who's going for the penn state job is not going for the wisconsin job anymore i mean it was the gap was smaller 10 years ago but it still was always going to be penn state so have some fucking self-awareness and realize where you're at and that it's a disaster i like the titanic they're basically playing the ad releasing that statement yesterday was essentially just taking a violin out as the sink as the ship goes down i think those guys get a bad rap though shout out to the band members of the titanic they knew they were going to die yeah they still just want to put a little bit of joy in people's lives at the very end good for them My other hot seat is, guys, because I saw this the other day.

49:25It was the top five least attractive male hobbies. Okay. And this is bullshit, but one is playing video games. Sorry, Zach. Two is collecting figurines. Three is crypto. Four is online trolling. Five is gambling. Those are the five funnest things to do. Online trolling has got to be number one. says playing video games dude you think online trolling like i how did memes memes just got his entire life taken down it's only online trolling if you're trolling people that the girl doesn't like though if you're trolling people i if you're trolling somebody that the girl likes if you're trolling somebody that the girl doesn't like they're like good for you i think there might I think there might be some women who, if they found out their boyfriend had a burner account and was probably tweeting mean things about her being like, she just showed up, ruined the whole vibe.

50:28That would be bad. That would probably be online trolling. That's where my mind went. Guys can't have hobbies. They can't have hobbies. My cool throne is Stella Blue Coffee. I have it right in front of me. I have the espresso sweet cream. I also have the Espresso Cafe Mocha because Thursday, get ready, we are finally going to have some cans that are going to be available for purchase, ready to drink. So that's a little teaser. We'll have everything. Just be ready on Thursday. Be ready. They're very, very good. Very good. They're very, very good. And my other cool throne is RG3 because I know it's not takey season, but we can just mark this down.

51:06We probably have the winner for take of the year. Yeah, I'd say it's definitely up there. This is RG3 August. Skip Bayless saying that Travis Hunter should have gotten baptized. I don't know. This one is a strong one. Double whammy. August 19th, RG3 said, I'm convinced that the Indianapolis Colts are trying to tank for Arch Manning. Double whammy. Shitting on Daniel Jones, propping up Arch Manning, you've been so wrong both directions. That is pretty bad. He also said, hey, it's a disservice to Jaden Daniels to keep comparing him to me when that's literally all he did last year. Yes. Was make that.

51:39Listen, RG3, he chases takes. He gets takes off. And that's okay. He gets takes off. Zach, hot seat, cool throne. My hot seat this week is going to be Amazon Web Services. I believe that we gave Bezos too much of the cloud. Yeah. We should break up this weather system. Somehow, one mistake over at AWS leads to just half the internet imploding. Lives being... Does it... Let me ask you a question. I'm not familiar with AWS. Does it take down your finger to press the button? I think you could spend hours attempting to press a button into an abyss Because the cloud that you entrusted to back the button has withered away This is a great take by Zach I thought AWS was award-winning silence because there were no podcasts up Ah, good point, PFT There was a podcast up No, it wasn't It got up It's up right now It was up late We should break up this cloud into smaller clouds This storm system is too big I do feel bad for Max.

52:38I'm busting his balls. He got absolutely screwed on Sunday night. Do you want to tell us what happened on Sunday night? Yeah, it was tough. Football nights are late nights. We've talked about this a lot. You know, 245 finish up. It's a great feeling. You're like, all right, all you got to do, upload this, and then go to bed and wake up and have your Monday. I go into our back end, and it's just glitching out like crazy. like different alerts are getting hit at me there's like different question marks everywhere i've never seen anything like it i think it's like you're not you're not you're not ready for that no you your brain is not ready for question marks and alerts like where there should be barstle logos it was just like question marks and and that's a bad sign to be for anything so then i think it's like oh fuck fuck our own system this is bullshit no one's awake to help me right now the barstool system is just fucked i tweet something out from the pmt account being like we're working on we're working to fix this i wasn't working on shit i couldn't have done anything it is crazy when when amazon goes down like almost the entire internet goes down yeah and then everyone was just replying to my tweet being like we're working on this and then being and then everyone was like it's the entire internet what the fuck are you gonna do and i was like good point I'm not going to do anything.

54:02So then I just stayed up for the next like five and a half hours, just refreshing our backend, seeing if it would just like magically start working again. And then like at one point I just couldn't keep my eyes open. So I just kept setting 20 minute alarms. So I would fall asleep, wake up 20 minutes later, check my phone, see if anyone was awake or if it magically started working. So it would be 20 minutes, sleep, refresh, check my email nothing 20 minutes refresh check my email nothing until 7 a.m central time uh big i actually woke i didn't even wake up to the alarm i woke up to big cat calling me him just being like pete said we're good to go and then we were good to go yeah yeah because pete i saw it i'm usually the first time i saw it it's called pete right away and pete said it's it's it just came back i can't get in touch with max says like i'll call him so you were in your you were in your 20 minute face 20 minute nap window 20 minute nap window because there's one thing like staying awake when like you're working on something yeah it's another i was just sitting there with nothing there was nothing i could do that's so frustrating until somebody else could wake up or until amazon could just start working again so sorry to the awls but it was not max's fault probably every other podcast had this too right that's a barstool thing that is not a me thing That was my first question.

55:29I was like, why is every other podcast? But still, this is also a good reason to subscribe to the YouTube. YouTube was up. But we apologize. It was not a Max for getting to press the button. We were getting AWS attacked. The cloud. They don't want you to listen to this podcast. The cloud fucked us. The cloud fucked us hard. And my sleep schedule. Diet's going to be bad again this week. I'm saying. Okay, that's fine. It's AWS. Fuck you, AWS. You made Max fat this week. It's not fair. Max made his nachos, by the way. Great job. They were awesome nachos. They were really good nachos. Good nachos.

56:04Put a smile on my face. We're going to have to think of something else for this. Yeah. Bring back Max's Deli. Oh. Max's Deli. Max's Rib House. Mmm. Rib House. That might be a little too daunting. Yeah. Max's Lasagna Castle. That I could probably figure out. Max's Meatballs. Max's Meatballs would be awesome. Meatballs would be good. and meatballs would be good. Yep. Okay, good hot seat. Cool throw? My cool throw this week is Baker Mayfield. There's a lot of narratives out this morning saying Baker Mayfield did this, Baker Mayfield did that, saying he had a bad game. I just want to go on record and say the rational side of the Internet and sports fans understand that this is an inflate-gate situation.

56:47Those balls were getting thrown high for a reason, and I think it might be helium-based. Oh. You think they're out to get your boy? Okay. I think they are. I think it might be a smear campaign. I think a backroom equipment room job might have went down. And I think Baker should rest assured that when he's back on the field playing with regulation equipment, that those balls are going into hands and not into seats. I think this is going to be good for Baker in the long term because now he just gets a whole bunch of people talking shit about him. Facts. And so that's, yeah, adding some – they were being too nice to Baker.

57:16When you were watching the game, at what point were you saying to yourself, ooh, this is a problem? First quarter didn't feel good. I mean, there's been a lot of Amon Ra talk recently on the podcast, and I was like, of course, he decides to just break it off and that's early on the Bucs. I mean, he's hitting spin moves that you see in video games. And then Gibbs is too fast. It seems like he would just break once a drive. But then when we got that turnover and the field goal before half, I was like, this is a little bit of a minimum switch. This is Baker time. We're back in it. Yeah, let's do it.

57:46It's showtime. And then the game just never opened up. Like, it felt like it wanted to burst. and then that touchdown was going to be hitting both sides. Let's do it. Let's have a game. We never had a game. Oh, you have one person. There's one single tweet that backs you. This is from Christopher. He said, this is in Flakegate. The ball's got helium in them. Every single Baker Mayfield throws five yards over his receiver's head. Christopher has accurate information. Yeah, and he has no responses, no likes on this tweet. 187 views. Shout out, Christopher. He's getting suppressed. Yeah, he is. Yeah, the algorithm.

58:19Yeah, you're right. Not followed by anyone we know. Bezos. That's just Christopher out there. Shout out ChrisSon21. Also, the refs pandering to the home crowd, pretty much doing crowd work. Like, oh, yeah, we'll just. Hussey. Yeah. Hussey was crazy last night. And guess what, Dan? We're going to give you your challenge back. Give it up for Dan, everybody. What's that inflection? Why are you so excited to get these things back? Yeah. Next up, we got Jared. Jared to the stage. And then he felt a certain type of way about it. He felt good about the challenges. and he's like i'll do it again yeah i'm like the spot like hey dan have this i didn't like it you didn't ask for it but i'm giving it to you yeah you get a timeout back look at this man we're penny sool penny sool on the pole okay let's get to our interview with our good good friend recurring guest and colleague ryan rusillo before we get to ryan rusillo he's brought to you by hey dude what better way to kick off football season than with the official shoe of tailgating Hey Dude is the only option when you're planning your game day fit.

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1:00:47Go subscribe. Ryan, great to see you. Colleagues now, your first episode out November 3rd. How many takes are you kind of like, do the takes build up in your head? Have you been calling people for hours on end trying to get the takes off with a few-week break here? Yeah, real just take hoarding. and obviously because it's new i really have to let it fly now so you know me i'm going to try to come up with a bunch of things uh to get attention maybe expanding the college football playoff to 64 teams it's going to be one uh is baseball america's pastime again which i'm you know nice run last night was a lot of fun i walked into a bar in canada right as they were down 3-1 to grab some food and the place she's like here for the jays game and i was like i am now springer yard by the way springer doesn't happen without hartford hartford has it yeah uh new england's rising star it just continues to deliver in ways that i wish people would account for a little bit more and then i was watching sports net you know so it was like tragically hip into the break place is going wild and i was uh i was really happy for the blue jays i i love all toronto fans except for Raptors fans as we know.

1:02:05Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So do you have, have you had any takes over the last few weeks that you would have put out that would have then become freezing cold takes later that you can call yourself out on? No, that's a really good question. Good question. Thank you. You guys are good. Thank you. Like, hey, what's your dumbest thought been since you've been off a podcast, Mike, that you're like, I'm really glad I didn't have to do a podcast after that? Probably that LSU is still talented enough to hang with anybody. Yeah. Yikes. Let's just figure out this offense. As you pointed out, they lost a tackle on the road.

1:02:41Yeah. They did. Tough environment. Tough environment. That's what I think is the best part about playoff expansion is just the excuses that that are just completely irrelevant prior to having 12 teams, you're like, dude, it's over. It's done. So there's certainly an argument to be said for like still being alive. LSU is not still alive. I'm kind of kidding around. I think once the South Carolina game, I'm like, this is a very talented, not great team. But the offensive line is a huge issue. But yeah, I was trying to get it out there. I think the thing that I'm always really impressed with is the self-importance of some of us, where it's like, if I can just get this messaging out there, there might be someone in the committee that sees this tweet.

1:03:21And then when this team is being debated, they're going to reference this tweet from mid-October and go, you know, Vandy is a little, a little bit more lively. I went to a Vandy Mizzou game once and it was, people were apologizing ahead of time. They're like, just so you know, it's a little different than other SEC stops, but it looks like it's back or new. Well, yeah, the, the, the stadium construction is finally finished. Vandy and Mizzou are the two teams that I feel like have been under construction stadium-wise for about 15 years. Kansas, too. Kansas as well. Yeah, Kansas is still not done.

1:03:54Mizzou would just – someone would be lining up for a field goal and be like, okay, so they're just kicking into someone's backhoe? Like, what is going on here? And that happened for a decade. Yeah, because it was a pile of rocks forever, right? And then it was – it might be smart for recruiting. Just always have construction going on. Yeah. to the stadium. Be like, when you get here, I remember when we took the tour in college at UVM and they were like, and we're going to get cable in the dorm soon, which we never did. And then the older guys are like, they said the same thing at our tour as well.

1:04:24So yeah, that might be something just be under construction the entire time because you want to make a decision whether it's in your professional life, personal life or like, is there room for growth? Yeah, that's what they do at Country Club. It's like, yeah, the clubhouse, we're doing a complete renovation on it right now and it's gonna be done next spring just in time for the season okay yeah yeah sure i'll sign up that's awesome state-of-the-art facilities yeah that's why your dues are a little bit more we had to pump them up this year yeah you guys are gonna get a little bit harder yeah track again everywhere we're getting those installed yeah on the driving range a year later feeling where it's like no you're supposed to bring a range finder yeah uh okay so the new podcast feed same old people are gonna say oh what's ryan doing he same show you You have Saruti and nephew Kyle are with you.

1:05:10Sorry, Kyle are with you. And everyone should expect it's the same show. I know that people, when the news was announced, they're like, oh, he's going to change. He's going to start guessing that ass every day. I feel like he and Nicky Smokes are going to be doing blow at the bar. You're doing the same show and you're in California and pretty much nothing is changing. Yeah, that's pretty much it. The last week has been a bit of a reminder when I left ESPN and went to ringer than Spotify. It was like the second I started putting out content. It's like, ah, here we go. Now that he's not at ESPN anymore.

1:05:44I'm like, I'm literally the exact same person. And so it was a nice little reminder seven years later that it's happening all over again. Like you say one nice thing about Sabrina Carpenter and it's like, oh, he fits in perfect with Portnoy. Yeah. Weirdo. Ryan leaves the ringer. All of a sudden he likes girls. Yeah. Well, also that's a double whammy because Dave does have in our contract, we have to tweet about the WNBA at least once a week. Yeah, no, I'm excited about that. Mine are going to be mostly stat stuff. Okay, that's fair. Yeah, that's fair. But yeah, I mean, I thought Sabrina Carpenter was awesome in that podcast sketch, and I think as podcasters, I think we even have a greater appreciation for it.

1:06:25So you try to compliment her, and then it's like, oh, here we go. And the funnier thing is, like, I gave out a couple fics to fulfill my contract, and it was like oh hey now he's giving out and you're like dude i've been giving out these mid-ass picks for a year and a half yeah like oh now he's saying mid though uh-huh oh true yeah yeah yeah you're on that's sketchy by you yeah i have you have you had a conversation with the boys about the podcast feed because there's been some podcast feed issues over here no i i'm of Of all the stuff that I've observed, I can't wait to not be involved in all of it.

1:07:03Well, I don't I don't know if there's a first class flight issue. I don't really go that many places. So I'm out of that. The feed issue is a big reason why, like when you go to market and luckily you guys never really have to because you're you're so powerful. But when you start walking into these meetings and it's like, where's your feed? Like, I don't have my feed. It's massive. It's a massive, massive difference. it so luckily this time around any new place that i was talking to was like okay we can figure out a way to get you your feed after a certain amount of time so um i don't know if that's what you're asking but no i was just basically busting max's balls it's the first time max has ever missed a feed was on monday morning uh with the show coming out a little bit late but yeah your guys are on top of it also oh i see what you're saying yeah everyone do subscribe to it it was also a nice welcome to Barstool moment uh I texted you right after Ryan but you announced your your new feed where everyone could subscribe and then it quickly became a Dave Portnoy versus Jerry Karabas fight and that was true that was that was great that was great it was like somewhere under like 15 of these quote tweets is Ryan's new feed we just got to find it it was good it was almost like it was done on purpose we're like let's get a little controversy going here but yeah back to the original point um i and to me it's the exact same show it's three days a week we may change up some of the release times a little bit um because maybe some of those later friday ones that were coming out kind of late like especially if it's hitting the east coast at five o 'clock in the afternoon on a friday isn't the optimum time to drop new stuff but yeah probably a little bit more active on a on a couple other things but i don't i mean i've been doing this a long time i I don't know if anything, it'd be exhausting to try to be somebody different.

1:08:48Yeah. Are you going to start covering and watching the NFL? I know. You guys love the NFL. Love the NFL. Yeah. Ryan always hits us up at 1 p.m. on Sundays. Just checking in. Wanted to chat. Can't chat then, Ryan. Games are on. I'm so mad I fell for it. Yeah. It's totally backfired, though. I don't know. Did Hank tell you what happened? Because it was going to be my little thing with you guys. but I couldn't I couldn't do it every week right I had to try to like sneak him in so right at kickoff week one I call big cat he answers and I was just like what are you what are you up to yeah and he's a god damn it I can't believe I answered this but he just hung up on me so then I gave it a couple weeks and I randomly call Hank and Hank's like hello which has happened maybe twice ever that I've called Hank and I was like what are you doing he's like i missed my flight to pittsburgh and then i was like well gosh shit i was like this is back this isn't really working and i think i said something like hey are you like seeing anybody or anything like no like he's like no and i was like i was like man this whole thing i was like it didn't work i was like this is what i was trying to do and he was just like yeah okay cool so he kind of got me because i mean his mind was elsewhere he wasn't where he was supposed to be And he was so miserable because I've had to do that like weird Pittsburgh.

1:10:11How can I get a flight out of here thing? And then I think I tried it with PFT once and it was like a DM. Yeah. You sent me a DM one time and then I don't think I replied to it for like four days. And it was like, yeah, that's probably, I don't know if this bit's paying off for you, but it's a good bit. It's good. Keep going. Go through the wall. Yeah. Okay. So let's, let's talk some college football. So let's start with your LSU Tigers and the fact that Brian Kelly feels like he might be on the hot seat. Have you, because you actually are plugged in with some people there. LSU, they're not going to go to the playoff this year.

1:10:48Doesn't feel like it. What are they going to do? What's the future? Is Brian Kelly going to get another year? I heard that he went on vacation in the bye week. It just never felt like a good fit, and it's just proving to be not a great fit. OK, but I think one of the problems with like fit, especially when it's in the South, it's like, oh, you have to be a Southern person. And then it's like, you know, we always kind of default is like, oh, he's like this great cultural fit. You know, I still don't think people like a lot of people realize like Saban isn't from Alabama. No. You know, even like Mack Brown of Texas, he's winning.

1:11:20He's like, oh, he's a perfect fit for the Texas culture. It's like, yeah, but it's like we kind of fall for this. So in the South, I feel like it's even harder when you don't feel Southern or you don't have connections to the high schools organically. But Kelly's track record was incredible. So the fact that they would want to back up the bus for him and pay him a ton of money, I never really had an issue with. And whenever I look at the fan bases, they get really, really mad about, you know, whether it's like, I know that it's not been to the standard because the only standard at LSU is winning a national championship.

1:11:55but it's not like they're terrible. I think this year it's disappointing and you're continuing to see an offense. It's like, it doesn't make any sense with Nussmeier and the fact they can't run the football again this year. All of these numbers that are pretty alarming, but whenever a team that's at that level decides like, okay, like get rid of this guy. The first thing I always felt like A &M should be thrilled right now, but A &M was kind of like Elko. Yeah. Like that's the best we can do. And look, it's, it's, they've, they've been terrific this year, but in that moment, the number of fan bases that they want the guy out and then they see the available replacements, they're almost always disappointed.

1:12:37You know, like Penn state's thrown around names right now. It's like, why would any of these people go there that are currently this happy with where they're at? So it ends up always being kind of disappointing. So I look, I think Kelly deserves another year. but it really sometimes those spots are just so intense that you can admit like the coach will go, I'm not going to be miserable if I don't have to do this again by the way, the fit wasn't like he's not a southerner it's more that he's incredibly unlikable and that will immediately speed up his timeline by a year because he's just he's just a dick yeah, but it has everything to do with wins and losses Yeah, of course.

1:13:19I don't care about any of this Belichick stuff if they were showing any kind of signs of improvement at UNC, which would be the funniest thing of people having to justify it, but considering they're also not very good. Like, you just can't get over the content. I can't believe that story. I can't believe the leaked video that Pablo had and then her describing, like, hey, is end zone redundant? Yeah. Yeah, should that be red zone? We were saying that video, the winner of that entire video is Matt Patricia, the most patient man in the world, and just sitting there being like, listen, my buddy's happy.

1:13:58I'm not going to do it. I can't say anything. Also, Matt Patricia, the fact that he very easily could have ended up at UNC this year, and instead he's at Ohio State coaching the best defense in the country, probably having a great time, probably really enjoying himself. Big winner. Big winner in that split up. she's going to be running a company though like that confidence is undeniable yeah like i don't know what it is i mean obviously she's got some years to go here but to sit next to belichick and another coach like patricia and then explain like hey does that make sense yeah and they're like yeah actually it kind of does make sense uh but if they were five and two like think about it now granted unc is like not on that level but imagine if this were at auburn yeah and they were five and two and then Auburn fans would be like it's totally fine what are you talking about like this is great massive turnaround tons of energy you should see the quad like we we really only care like you know Kelly I get it he's tough he's really tough and he kind of put his foot in his mouth the way he went after that reporter about the offense and I could also kind of understand like hey we just won a game and like the first thing you're going to do is talk about the offense here but it's it's a lingering issue for a team that felt like it was loaded but i don't know i mean after that vandy game but we saw it coming yeah coming in yeah so uh real quick we touched on ohio state there they are the best team in the country are you ready we've been doing this for about a month now are you ready to say this team is better than last year's team wow um yeah i think sands even better um he just you know they don't even need them like that's the thing that's wild about it like I was looking at the third and long like anything third and four or longer those numbers like nobody converts anything against this defense and you think like losing Knowles and then losing Chip Kelly you bring in two new coordinators you have saying you're like okay is this going to be as as seamless a transition and it is now I caution all of us that fall into this trap all the time of like that six or seven game stretch where we were doing it before Oregon lost to Indiana where it's like okay it feels like there's three teams and there's a gap it's like okay yep but two of those teams lost and the Indiana win at Oregon I think is the single best win of the entire college football season and I also think Oregon's getting dropped down too far in the polls after the fact because I think Indiana really is that good this year so now to look at ohio state as like this unbeatable team um their record and their stats are going to say that and yeah it feels like it's them and everybody else right now but i feel like we make this mistake every single year uh when we're talking about whatever the gap is between how many teams can like win a title versus like who the actual favorite is so uh i like everybody else you've watched ohio state what they did to washington's offense just humiliating uh minnesota like that was the night game and they're coming out of the tunnel and you're like, all right, here we go.

1:17:00Like some big 10 action. You're like, this is humiliating. Yeah. And the rest of their schedule isn't really going to be that challenging. So this should be pretty easy there. It just feels like they are a step above everyone else. But I know you, you know, don't love the 12 team playoff. We've we've we've debated it ad nauseum. It does feel like there's some good parody in that next grouping, Indiana being at the top of it. but Indiana, Oregon, Texas A &M, Notre Dame is good. I know people wrote them off after the first two games. They've kind of figured out their defense. I like CJ Carr. Who in that next groupings would you say you're highest on and to be like that's the team that will maybe take down Ohio State?

1:17:40Miami? Yeah, Miami, they get the terrible back game, which it's more normal to be a really good team to look absolutely terrible one of these 12 games. Yeah. I feel like you remember before Clemson won titles and, you know, Van Pelt and I had argued about it or whatever, but like he did a whole thing on Clemsoning, which is a very like ACC thing. And it's like, oh, Clemson is going to get out to this big start. And then my whole point was, you know, how many different programs around the country that get off to a good start that have these high expectations end up losing late in the season? It's like, oh, we did it again.

1:18:16It's like, no, no, that's actually normal. Like that's normal, Oklahoma. That's normal Miami. And granted, Miami blowing that game to Syracuse is probably not normal considering what was at stake last season. But I expect that to happen. It's very rare that we have any of these teams that are going to go clean throughout the entire season. And now you're asking them to win even more games to get through this expanded playoff. Like that's a ridiculous ask to go. You can't lose any of these games, or maybe you can lose one and win the national championship game. And then, of course, you have Ohio State losing two and then still looking clearly like the best team last year.

1:18:49But normally, like a lot of years, you know, I'm I wouldn't call it bias. I just think the SEC conversation was really stupid for a bunch of years. Now other teams have won titles. And I think the argument could be, OK, well, if it's only about winning titles, then why were all these people in the SEC was winning all these titles still arguing that it wasn't the best conference? And now that the Big Ten has won back to back titles, the thing that you argued against, you're using as your main talking point to talk about a shift in the conferences. I don't think there's any question the SEC is deeper than all these other conferences.

1:19:22I mean, sometimes when I go through it and you're like, Texas is 10th. I think that was what it was before this last weekend. I don't really love any of these SEC teams this year as real title contenders. Maybe it's Alabama. Ty Simpson is awesome. He's awesome. He's a baller. The two fourth down throws against Mizzou. They're now like four wide receivers deep. I think Hill, the 240-pound back that we saw in the Tennessee game. And, like, look, that was a really good game. I think Tennessee's pretty good, but you get a pick six at the end. It's a massive, like, at the very least, 10-point swing, maybe a 14-point swing.

1:19:57So their defense looks like it's getting a little bit better. Earlier in the season, you looked at BAMSD, and you're like, where are the dudes? Like, where are the two guys that just destroy the other team's offense coming off the edge? And there were some rushing attempt numbers against them that were pretty alarming, like Georgia ran it at 70 yards per carry. And then they go and face Mizzou, who's got Hardy, who's the number one running back in the country at that point, and they shut them down. So I think they're growing. And the Simpson to receiver group is my favorite probably collection of, like, if there's one thing to point to, whether it's a front or a secondary or, you know, sometimes I don't know that we talk about running backs enough anymore, but, like, Simpson and those receivers is something I like better than anything that A &M has, better than anything Ole Miss has.

1:20:40I mean, Ole Miss has been kind of a weird team this year. I think they're kind of like in that Tennessee group. Like, yeah, they're good, but I don't think they're as good as Indiana or Ohio State. And I don't even know that I think Alabama is as good as those two teams. And A &M, for all the defensive numbers that they had prior to that Arkansas game, granted Arkansas is kind of like a weird, sneaky, like can hang around for three hours. I'm not as high on Reed as I am as, say, a Simpson or maybe probably even Trinidad, although it looked like Trinidad kind of fell apart there in that Georgia game.

1:21:10Or Gunnar Stockton. Gunnar Stockton looks bad. Gunnar Stockton has had two games now where it's not looked great, but in big moments at Tennessee and then Ole Miss this past weekend, he's kind of got that he's a dude in the moment feel to him where it's not great, it's not perfect. They could probably, if they get in the playoff, they maybe get into deep waters that he can't get out of. But he has twice now impressed me in like, hey, your back's against the wall. You got to start making plays right now. Otherwise, your season's going to be fucked. and he's done it yeah i'm you're probably right i mean i guess the biggest problem is that we're holding georgia to like the georgia standard and this georgia team is not even close to those teams the defense isn't as good uh they don't run the ball consistently and i think the stockton fourth down throw against tennessee was like okay you know because i felt like coming out of last year into this year you're like wait you guys thought that guy was good right at the end of the year last year like he almost got decapitated and everybody kept like oh man this guy's got so much juice it's like yeah that's awesome he survived that play but I don't know that I necessarily trust him and you don't even have to listen to me like Herbstreets brought it up during podcast I don't know if he's done any podcast but there's there's a tendency for him because he's such a good runner he's a tough player he's kind of a gamer that he's going to bail a little bit quicker but that comeback against Ole Miss to put up that many points for an offense that you're like you know do you trust this defense to get the other team to go three now when you need it to and it's like the fourth quarter of the script entirely flipped so like george is good but they're incredibly one-dimensional and yeah maybe stockton make a couple plays but over the course of three hours against another really good football team i don't know that he'll be able to keep up with the other better quarterbacks yeah yeah um and to your point about about miami's loss that you made a second ago like louisville on a friday night that is a that's a tough matchup for anybody.

1:23:03Jeff Brock. That's got to be I think Louisville on Friday nights is, they're the most dangerous team in America and they have been for years. If you don't know about Louisville Friday nights, it is they play different. They play different there. So I'm not writing Miami off just yet or anybody that loses to Louisville on a Friday night this year. I think that's something they have to put in its own bag. Okay. Weird things happen. Let's move on. And to your point about the SEC and the Big Ten, the answer to like why Big Ten fans are now saying like, oh yeah, yeah, we beat the big bad SEC. They were just lying before when the SEC was clearly better.

1:23:38We moved the goalposts. They were just like, hey, ESPN is in the tank for the SEC. They're actually not that good. That was just cope. And now that they are actually doing things and winning championships, now they can be like, yeah, we beat the big bad bully on the block. Now we're the big bad bully on the block. Yeah. Just lying. Hand up. Yeah, I think a lot of it and what we saw was it just reminds me of politics. You know, like politics to me is when there's an NFL game and you guys love the NFL. So you'll know. Yeah, huge. But when the official turns on the mic, there's 80 ,000 people in the stadium and the officials like.

1:24:18There's two penalties on the play. We're like, first is, you know. Illegal motion offense and then everybody, everybody goes crazy because their team is on defense. And then it's like offside defense. And then everybody in the stadium boos. They're like, he just said there was two flags. He just said there were two flags. And you got so excited about the first one. And everybody knew that the second one was going to be on you. And yet you still cheered for the first one. And I think that is a perfect example of like how people argue with each other over politics all day long. It's like the thing that you can point to is a really good chance like your guy is going to do the exact same thing or some version of it in like six hours.

1:25:06Yeah. So what's the fucking point to any of this stuff? And what I think happened is that a lot of people didn't want to believe because this is another thing. Like no one actually wants to believe like, hey, what if I'm not good enough? What if that person is better than me? You're just going to make excuses. So instead of saying like the SEC won seven straight titles with four different teams and for the Big Ten expanded, like to go through that exercise with the Big Ten, it was like. Give me the four teams that could win a national championship over a seven year period. And it's like it was it was a really hard thing to do now.

1:25:42You know, look, you bring in Oregon, you bring in SC Washington plays in a national championship game. They were in the playoff. Then there's also UCLA. So it's an easier argument to be made now. But it felt like instead of just admitting it, that it was happening, that it was just a collective agreement from the rest of the country that it's now it has to all be propaganda. So to fight that propaganda, I think what we have now is like, no, no, this is what you're supposed to do. Michigan wins one. Ohio State wins one. OK, we're the best. And then we just keep hammering that messaging over and over again.

1:26:13It's like people got so mad about an advertisement catchphrase of it just means more that it was like, well, that's not true. Like, well, who's keeping track of whether or not that's true or not? It was true. That was true. Yeah. That part was legit. Yeah. Because the other thing, it's kind of like the Jokic MVP vote. Like when I was going around talking to teams before I put my vote in, I would ask about I would ask front offices and coaching staffs. I'd be like, look, I need help on the defensive guys. Are there people I'm missing? Is there somebody I'm not thinking about? somebody that you think like we don't really understand and then every team that i would talk to when it's less than 20 and it's over 10 would say hey who do you vote for mvp i'd be like i'm actually voting yokich you're like okay good like every team except for one team that was kind of like hey i think it's sga's year and what the team did 68 wins he deserves the best player to acknowledge it's the same thing as anybody that's gone from one of the other conferences to the sec no one has ever said to me privately not one has ever said you know what this place actually isn't as good as everybody says it is.

1:27:12Every single person that goes in is like, okay, now, like, I thought it was maybe a little overrated or a little stupid. So yeah, like I get all the propaganda, propaganda accusations. I haven't worked at ESPN now for what six years. I mean, if that's what it was with me, then I don't know why I would still be doing it because I'm not getting paid anymore. But like, do you want to do you want to keep track of game days visits now do big noons well like you know that did you see the fox sports stadium rankings that bear and i talked about who works on the show they had michigan number one so i think the funny thing is fox gets like believed that it was only an sec espn thing that fox is like you want to see some fucking messaging yeah well yeah we got it give us your top five what are your top five stadiums oh well uh it's lsu one yeah um you know there's this collection of like sec schools that when it's right like when tennessee's right it is so much fun yes i think the swamp is in that conversation for when it's right it's just i don't know you've got this like moisture all over you and you're like this is brutal pound for pound no one can hang with ottson what Oregon does with a lower number and how, and I was there, you know, when they were really starting to crank that thing up and I'm standing on the sideline, the USC sideline.

1:28:40Remember when Barkley played there as a freshman and you're standing on a USC sideline and like, I remember Stanford, Steve and I just looking at each other and being like, how can this place be this loud? Like how can it be this loud when they don't have a hundred thousand people in here? Um, so I, I guess I would say LSU, Tennessee, Florida, Oregon. and if I have to pick a Big Ten. This is so biased. Yeah. Well, I've been to 60-plus of these places, so, you know. Can I throw a Big Ten at you? What was your fifth pick? Well, I haven't been to Iowa. That's what I was going to say. Kinnick is very, very sneaky, underrated.

1:29:16I don't know how – I don't think if you built a stadium like that today it would be allowed, but the front row at Kinnick, you're basically on the field. You're standing essentially like you could tap the players on the shoulder. That's how close it is. Yeah, that's the same thing at Oregon at that point. I was turning around going, and then I was like, I think, because normally you like to stand on the visiting team side just to be away from all the chaos, right? It's a little bit easier to move around. And that Oregon crowd, I was like, I don't want to be part of the enemy here. Let's go over to the Oregon side because it doesn't even feel safe over here.

1:29:48So I haven't been to Kinnick. I've been to Ohio State. Ohio State's good. I don't think it's like, oh, my God. I haven't been to Michigan. I've never heard one person ever discuss Michigan other than the Fox tweet, which again, you guys are kind of aligned with here. So I don't mean to put you guys in the crosshairs. So are you. Yeah, welcome to the club. But I'm not on the show. But you might be. I think there'd be – there's no chance. Like one of my good friends who you met, Big Cat, he told me something years ago that I think is really important to remember. He's like, out of the 20 of us that are still very close, you know maybe 10 get together he's like half of them are actually rooting against you that's a good point yeah right so i think everybody would sit there and like welcome me with open arms so there's probably two people on the show that are like this fucking guy is gonna get all these reps you can just say brandon yeah yeah just say his name brandon agrees with you about iowa by the way i we we we should get i mean it would you do no college ball so wait so what's your, what's your big 10 picks at happy Valley?

1:30:52Yeah, it's, it's happy that it is. It's, it's awesome. But I, I always have like a, I think I've told this story before. There was always like a little annoyance when a Penn state staffer came up to me during a whiteout. He's like, that's the thing you've ever seen. Yeah, it isn't. And he was just like looking at me like you asshole. And I went, it's unbelievable. Like this is unbelievable. Being like one of the five best atmospheres in the sport is, is a really great accolade. And the guy was like, whatever, like was so mad about it in the way that you would be mad about it when you only know one thing.

1:31:22Right. I was like, all right. And look, just honorable mention is Lubbock. Yeah. Halloween beating number one, Texas. I don't know what it's like week to week, but it's still my favorite sporting event that I've ever been to. And it was just so scary. I mean, it was like, it was like another portal. But I don't like, are there any that I'm leaving off? Wrigley field when they have Northwestern versus Iowa is a pretty, pretty iconic location where they play in the outfield wrigley where they play in the outfield grass and sometimes they they don't have enough grass for an end zone that's that's a lot of fun play only going one way um i would say lubbock is a good call because you take your life into your hand when you go into love into lubbock the tortillas flying everywhere could kill somebody yeah open carry it also has yeah it's got the open carry aspect and also the fact that it's just so isolated you're in the middle of nowhere where you go and you're like am i ever really going to be able to leave this place it's intimidating yeah i like florida state i went to florida state a lot yeah and especially i think they've done a lot of renovations on the stadium i'd like to see that i thought florida state was a very cool vibe and uh i kind of i think if i remember correctly walking in they have some of those it looks like the coliseum a little bit it's cool at night especially yeah i think florida state also has like an atmosphere when it's going right yeah that is that is pretty wild um you know look i think wisconsin actually i know i just kind of i know i know dude it's bad it's bad but i was there well you were there weren't you there for the trail prior game when they were number one and they came yeah 2010 yeah yeah yeah so i went to that game that was incredible uh some people like norman texas is better than it used to be but i don't know that anybody ever brings it up yeah that's the best thought um what about cow field i've been to one game there and it was awesome i mean you could you could pick like athens is kind of great yeah yeah on that that saturday afternoon as the sun is going down type of thing and uh i just don't want to pick six or seven sec schools but if you pick 10 i don't think you're top four because i think even the graphic had four big 10 schools and And then fifth, they were like, all right, we're going to put LSU somewhere here.

1:33:37Yeah. We'll get back to Russo in a second. He's brought to you by Chevy. Chevy knows that football season here is here. And whether you're grinding through the week or gearing up for kickoff, there's one ride that's always game ready. The Chevy Silverado. The Chevy Silverado is a longtime partner, part of my take. It's our favorite truck. It's all about grit. They sponsored the low man trophy awarded to the nation's top collegiate fullback. I've got one name that's on the short list, the low man short list. it is eli heidenreich from navy great fullback that's a little sneak preview of the low man trophy presented to you by chevy they are a great partner of part of my take they're a great partner of football chevy's built for the hustle ready for the game silverado is america's most dependable full-size truck head to chevy.com learn more and build your own chevy silverado today and now here is ryan rossillo wait that just uh triggered a memory right there i don't know if you saw but Speaking of Fox, we did the show out in Utah a couple weeks ago, and I got Rinaldi'd.

1:34:38Have you been Rinaldi'd? Well, I mean, if you mean have an awesome time. Oh, yeah, no. Yeah, I've been Rinaldi'd a few times. I say it in all loving, but he breaks you down in an incredibly fascinating way, and you're just sitting there like, where are the cameras? I'm getting Rinaldi'd. all-time Rinaldi went with a bunch of buddies to the Masters the ESPN I think it's the only time I'd ever asked him for tickets anything and they're like not a ton has worked out for this guy why don't we hook him up so they gave me like passes Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday the double eagle hosting thing which if you're doing the Masters right so you know we go to the Wednesday stuff and walk in and you know I'm with some college buddies too so they hadn't really ever seen like hey what can you do here I'm like I can't do anything that like trust me at Augusta there's nothing that I can do here that that makes it special and then Rinaldi sees us goes up and Rinaldi's like and if you guys can walk the course today walk it backwards the perspective that you're gonna have over the next four days and he just like gets right into you you know and it was like it was awesome he rinaldi rinaldi rinaldi to me once at a hotel lobby like in the middle of the day i was like ryan and he's like how's it going and i explained it because you know the important thing to remember and i was like this fucking guy he's the best therapist yeah i feel like getting rinaldi at the masters that's peak rinaldi yeah that's about that might be heaven you might have gone to heaven and not realized the birds chirping you probably hear the piano music in the background my friends were like they're like we can't believe that just said that was like a real thing that just happened yeah it felt like he was doing a tv segment for us yeah like that's why he's the best that's why he's the best uh what fan base in college football gives you the most shit well it was indiana last year without question but i was kind of like you know look um you know indiana fans are even mean on threads which is like impossible shout out threads by By the way, I've had this out with, we have some Indiana fans here.

1:36:52They're really fucking good this year. Last year, I feel like that was a draw. Like that was, the comments about Indiana, they should have been in the playoff. I never said they shouldn't have been in the playoff. But the comments about Indiana, when they step up, is it going to look the same? It did not. That all proved to be true. This year, it's different. Mendoza's special. like this is a different Indiana team than the conversations we had last year where, you know, they'll point to the 10-point loss to Notre Dame. Anyone who watched that game, that wasn't a 10-point game. So this year is different.

1:37:30This year, if you're not giving Indiana credit this year, then you're a fucking moron and you're stuck in – I don't know where you're stuck. You're just not watching the games. They're awesome. Totally agree. Last year, it was something where I just – I get so mad about the expansion and we've covered all this stuff and the realignment. And you go, do you realize when you have an 18-team league, you can have a really weird scheduling year. So when you look through the 18 teams, other than the Ohio State game, they played, I think, like eight of the worst, or no, seven of the next eight worst teams in the conference.

1:38:06And of course, they never played anybody out of conference. So then when they had the Ohio State game where it felt like, are you guys just running clock to make this score appear to be a little bit better? And then that's why I think Ohio State came right back. They're like, let's put another touchdown on these fucking guys. And that had a lot to do with Signetti. And look, to Signetti's – I shouldn't even say it that way. What Signetti has done here is insane. Insane. For all the other coaches that come into a program and host those luncheons, and it's like, okay, we wait until we get our guys in here, and then they fire coordinators.

1:38:35Like, all right, now we have the coordinators we want. for him to do this with a place with such a dismal history in this sport to even do what he did last year he deserves all the credit the problem was that he acted like such an asshole so many different times and people can kind of go to the default like lame kiffin at tennessee thing where it's like no i'm just doing this to make sure the program gets attention and all that kind of stuff and you're like dude you coached that ohio state game like you were scared like you were just going let me get through this thing let me try to have some sort of score that looks okay when the committees talking about us and so I didn't like the idea of a team being able to get into the playoff by never beating anyone and in the one game that mattered looking like they weren't even close to being in the same class but then the SEC pisses down their leg like I wasn't arguing for Alabama even before the last loss of the season for them Ole Miss loses to Florida South Carolina has lost they're like look all these teams lost so Indiana's getting into this thing and I was more okay with it at the end even though I didn't think they were good and you're exactly right about the Notre Dame thing.

1:39:32And then that day when like Signetti was on with game day, like he went crazy again. And then at the beginning of the year, when he talks about his schedule saying, hey, we're going to do the SEC schedule thing. And you're like, do you want to go through the power four opponent stuff? Like, do you want to bring up that record in the out of conference stuff? Of course you don't want to do that. Why you don't play anybody. So I was still like a little pre-pissed or I would say leftover pissed from 24. Watch the Illinois game and you're like, you know, Illinois is good. And this is something I'd love to do with you guys at some point, like, do we need to rank like 45 teams?

1:40:04Because I feel like there's always this group from like 20 to 40 where I kind of reference it as like the meaty good, and they may lose at the wrong time right on being the cusp of being ranked, and then they're not ranked, but then you're never given credit for beating that team. Like at times, like I think beating USC last year, despite the record, like that's still a good win, not just because LSU lost to them. There's other teams like that this year where I'm like, you know what? Beating that team is actually a good win. I don't care if they don't have a number next to them. So the Illinois part of it, and then just think that for three hours they were that much better than Oregon, even though the score was 20-20 when they throw the pick six.

1:40:39And then Mendoza goes right down the field. After throwing a pick six to Autzen, all the momentum is shifted, 75 yards, touchdown, the two receivers are studs, the running backs are awesome, Frazier the linebacker is great. There's like three guys in the D-line that feel like they're making plays, and Mendoza raises their level. So this is not like I felt like I was right the entire time with Indiana last year. And it was so annoying for a fan base that had never really tasted it before to now be in the conversation. It's like, hey, this is about whether or not you're any good or you're going to have eight wins.

1:41:10This is about whether or not you're going to compete for a national championship. And I'm going to push against that considering what this schedule was. But to me, it's like it's a different uniform now. Yeah. Yeah. Is anybody even doing that anymore, though? I don't think so, not after the Oregon one, but, like, yeah, they are legit, legit. They are going to, you know, I can't wait to see them most likely in the Big Ten Championship against Ohio State, but I think this team is every bit as good as pretty much every other team in the top ten, maybe outside of Ohio State, but Ohio State just might be on a different level than everyone.

1:41:46But that also could be, if Indiana goes to the Big Ten Championship game and beats Ohio State, I wouldn't sit there and be like, How did that happen? That is the craziest upset of all time. No, Indiana has dudes, and they have a dude, a quarterback, and I love Signetti. He is just – it really is insane. Indiana has the most losses in college football history. This is a university that never was good at all, and Signetti literally came in, said he's going to change everything, and he changed everything in a year and a half. It's absolutely unfathomable that this happened. I think a big part of it, too, is we've never had a coach that comes in super arrogant and just calls a shot from day one before they even practice.

1:42:29And he was like, yeah, I win. Google me. Purdue sucks. Ohio State sucks. Michigan sucks. We've never had a guy that comes in with that level of arrogance that actually does back it up immediately in a big conference like this. And so it's kind of shocking. So because he was so arrogant off the jump in that first year, you start to pick apart what he does. yeah it's impressive but he's not like a powerhouse yet i still think what signetti did last year was incredibly impressive for indiana they just weren't like an elite team that was going to ever win a national championship which is okay for a guy to come in his first year if that's the biggest knock you have against him then he's done a hell of a job even in year one yeah whatever annoyances i've have or even reference here none of it matters like what matters is that team went into Otts and was the better football team against an Oregon team that, you know, the switch over to Moore and you're like, okay, they didn't really play anybody to start the season.

1:43:23But when you were watching him, you're like, okay, so Oregon has like seven weapons again. And their quarterback looks like he's one of the best in the country. And you're like, this is a really good football team. And like, that's the whole point. Like I have Oregon in my rankings ahead of all those SEC teams still. Because I think that much of Indiana. so um any complaint or any issue or any things that i reference to signetti like i even realized like in the in the pie chart of like things that actually matter it's such a sliver it doesn't mean anything because that guy to your point like i want to know more about what they do like do you have any james madison stuff like i know i have connections with the boosters after going to the after party with pft after he almost killed the guy from wisconsin then later apologized in the concourse yeah good guy really yeah you guys worked it out before now to be fair in that moment i i probably had you know i i had some big balls in the moment because i knew that i had the two best security guards in the world there max and then ryan and just a tuxedo and i was in a tuxedo no one wants to punch a guy in a tuxedo like we got president brusillo they're just like with shit biceps swollen busting through his t-shirt like nobody was fucking me that night it was it was I got this guy on call.

1:44:34It was like Robin Big. You were my big. Yeah. RIP. I think Max was ready to jump in because I was like I'm not doing this. I'm not doing anything because we also had low man position which in the seats is not helpful. No, it's not. Not a level playing ground at all. So I was like I don't really want to do this. I don't want this headline. But I was able to connect with a bunch of the JMU people afterwards. I love those guys rocking rugby jackets. Like that's a I've been telling people about you people now since that night. That's a wild group, and I'm really impressed. But, I mean, to bring it back to Signetti, do you have further perspective?

1:45:14Yeah, I mean, the only thing that I – Go ahead. I was going to say the only thing I've heard about his practice is that he would run at JMU was he was, like, relatively hands-off during practice. He would spend a lot of time watching from either in the stands, sometimes in the booth, looking down on practice and taking in a holistic approach of looking at the team. Now, that might not be how he conducts every single practice, but I heard he did a lot of that and then spent a lot of time just by himself breaking stuff down in practice. And then he would give the message to his coaches, okay, here's how we're going to attack it.

1:45:48He wasn't so much checking in on everybody, micromanaging. He was a big-picture guy. K-Dick, who played for Signetti last year, who works with us now, he said that he's got a little like Harbaugh in him, where he's a little off, but in a great way. Is that the one that dates Anna? No, that is not. He's a little off. We're going to have to create like a tree for you, a chart. Yeah, if you have some index cards. Yeah, we got you. That'd be great. We got you. But a little off, but in a great way. Like Harbaugh's a little off, but it's because he just loves football so much that it just keeps everyone a little bit on edge, but in a really sharp way that I think some of these special coaches, like they're, they're wired different and it can really work, especially in this case.

1:46:34People used to tell me all the time, like, he is a clone of Nick Saban, which I would, like, laugh about because obviously he's not Nick Saban. But people would always tell me, like, he has so many Saban-like qualities. It would blow your mind if you spent time around him. I never felt like I would ever say that publicly because you're comparing him to the greatest coach who ever lived. But I think you're starting to see some of that, you know, some similarities come through with the guy when it comes to his football mind. I love how he said that UCLA is a 3-0 team. That's a classic, like, you know, He just gets up and he's like, we're playing a 3-0 team because they changed their coach and they're 3-0.

1:47:09And that's how we're approaching this game. The head coach that no one knows. Yeah, yeah. It's just funny because Neuizel's in every single picture and it's like the interim head coach is like, am I actually the head coach? Yeah. Neuizel's breaking him down after games. He's like handing out game balls. Again, to your point, I'm like the Cignetti stuff and being on savings. Whatever it was, whatever this is, and the way his team responds, and to turn it around, there are teams all over the country with far better resources, boosters willing to do whatever you need. And for this guy to be like, if we're just average in resources, then I can win here.

1:47:48And you're just like, what are you talking about? And he's done it. And, you know, I'm not – if they lose – I don't know. Like the fact that – you know, Big Cat, you even said it too. The fact that I'm even thinking of like if they play Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship game. Like, I have to think about my pick. And I might go, you know what? Why don't you just go the other way with this instead of – clearly, Ohio State will be favored. It's going to be impossible to pick against them. We're going to be factoring the history and the uniform and all that kind of stuff. Maybe the smarter football minds can be like, hey, there's a matchup here on the outside or there's something here with their interior linemen that, you know, advantage Indiana.

1:48:23Maybe, like, explain it to me because it doesn't matter. Like, if they beat them, like, this is entire – If they're bounced out of the playoff, they don't win the Big Ten championship game. There's no – no one should be going, oh, see, same old Indiana. No. No. Like, what are you talking about? That's – yeah, that's the difference. All right, give me a team that is maybe not in the top five that you're like, watch out for them. I'll throw one out there. Georgia Tech just keeps winning. They're like the – they're a bizarro world Auburn, and Auburn just finds a way to lose. Like, Auburn goes into every game like, hey, watch this.

1:48:57You never thought we could lose this way. and then they lose. Georgia Tech does the opposite where they just keep – and Brent Key's been awesome. And Haynes King, like he's just a dog. He's not the most talented guy, but he's – I love college football because you can get a guy like Haynes King or Diego Pavia where it's like this guy might not be some stud NFL player, but he just knows how to play college football. Yeah, I've been a big Haynes King fan for a while because he's just so incredibly tough. Yeah. He's pretty old now too. So, like, you worry. Like, there's a knee. He's going to be hurting him the next day.

1:49:33And then, you know, there are times over the course of a season where sometimes watching can be worse for you. And I'll always reference the Iowa-Wisconsin game where when Iowa had that season and Dan and I would argue about it all the time. And I'm like, this team should not be playing for a national championship, okay? They should not be in the conversation because I thought they were so gross and yet won every single week. and that Wisconsin game in particular. I watched that whole game. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what is this? But that was just like one game. I watched the Wake game because Robbie Ashford was out there, who I think the Robbie Ashford story is like one of the most incredible timelines in present-day college football.

1:50:15And then everybody would bring him in and be like, this guy's like a two-sport guy. He's nasty. He got hurt in that game. Then he came back. They weren't able to win it in double overtime. So I was like, all right, Georgia Tech's nice. they always seem to outperform expectations he's record against ranked teams especially when they're underdogs is incredible um but sometimes like that weight gain yeah it's gonna there's like a wake hangover for that one but i mean the rest of the way it's cues it's nc state bc pit and then we'll see what happens against georgia pitt's been playing better by the way yeah i mean it's kind of like the louisville call yeah i mean if louisville's only lost three points to virginia who's really good and Miller Moss is good like yeah I think you can make an argument that Miller Moss was kind of like I don't know enough about the SC situation but was the fall guy for that team yeah yeah uh to your point about the meaty good earlier the like 25 to 40 ranked teams in America how many of those would come from the American because that that conference right there if we're talking like group of five the top of the American is insanely good right now yeah they You got Navy, South Florida, Tulane, Memphis, and North Texas.

1:51:26And any one of those teams could make the playoffs. I love North Texas. They just score. That's all they do. Yeah, I think all these teams are really good. East Carolina's good too. Yeah, put it on Carolina, coastal Carolina, earlier this year. I remember I was listening to a gambling show just driving around, and this guy was like, coastal sucks. no one understands this team isn't any good. He's like, I'm hammering ECU. And I didn't know anything. I'm just in the car going. I don't think I've ever heard anyone more confident about a pick. Because it was like getting through all the picks and all the headliner stuff.

1:52:03He's like, I got one for you. And then, of course, I think I was like, I mean, they shut him out. And then I was looking at it the next week. And then it was like, are you going to be the moron that trails this the week after he made this pick? And I think Coastal covered the next week. And I was like, okay, that's sort of a win by not getting involved in any of it. Yeah. Um, look, the American thing has had stories all season long, whether it's Memphis, um, getting Arkansas, you know, at the goal line fumble with that game, um, South Florida, where, you know, there was a part where I'm kind of like arguing about sec in some of the, you know, cause it was always kind of funny.

1:52:37Like the sec would lose a non-conference game. It's like, Oh, Hey, we're so it just happens to me all the time. And it's like, Hey, are you going to bed? Cause there's still like three more games on tonight. Let's see how these go. So when Florida lost to South Florida, considering how that game played out, too, and then a kick, it's like, you know what? South Florida is like a like it's not a terrible loss, even if it's a non-powerful school. And then they get absolutely destroyed by Miami, which I think them beating Florida helped Miami kind of lock into that game there. And then Tulane, who has the revenge game against Duke, gets that win.

1:53:06And so that top group has a bunch of really good wins where I would say in years past, I get kind of frustrated about teams getting through a conference like that than being allowed to play for a national championship. Because I just don't think that it's because it isn't. It's not an opinion. It's not the same exercise to have to play 12 games in a conference like that. But to your point, the top half of it is is really strong. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you were to pick one conference, if you were to say, OK, the Big Ten is going to win the national championship. the sec is going to win which one would you bet on oh it's big 10 yes i don't yeah i mean look it's it's i'm not saying it's impossible bama's growing into something but you know bama gets a lot of the carryover of like bama it's like dude it's been a couple years now all right like it's not you've got the milro loss against michigan and plus again it's all not on milro um they come back last year they lose three games.

1:54:03They're a mess. Ty Simpson, you know, to his credit in that Florida State ass kicking, I thought he was like fighting the whole game. So I did take a positive out of that. And like, this is just an awful three hours for Ty Simpson running around as Florida State looks like world beaters. So they're going to have this loss that looks terrible considering what Florida State's going through right now. But, you know, teams are allowed to grow and get better or get worse, which I think is kind of overlooked at times. So I feel like Alabama is rounding into shape here more and even with the loss resume wise it looks worse than obviously A &M's clean sheet but you know I probably like Tennessee more than I like Georgia to be honest with you their defense though man yeah but that Georgia defense isn't it's just all the SEC teams the SEC is the new big 12 Tennessee's defense wasn't necessarily the problem on Saturday it was the pick 6 at the end of the first half against Alabama that's the worst possible thing that can happen to a football team that is that's it that's what it is like one yard line two yard line you're about to make it what like a two-point game and then pick six as there's zero seconds left on the clock in that first time there's no way that tennessee was coming back from that yeah i i just think they're i don't know i don't trust like alabama hasn't been able to run the ball this year and they still they you know they were able to find something against tennessee but i'm telling you that hill kid i don't know how many carries he can he can get but i thought he was a big story um and mackleroy's always all over too because the alabama part of it but he was moving bodies around and you know it kind of drives me crazy sometimes when these college teams will have like two projected first round tack or tackles can be a little different but like you say like one side of the line has a couple nfl guys you're like how can you not run the football to that side of the field yeah like what's going on here and it's a bit like not to bring up again but lsu having four of their offensive linemen from 24 drafted.

1:55:57And I was like, I thought that group as a unit wasn't even that good last year. And then four guys got drafted. So maybe I'm wrong about it. I'm trying to think of who else here because, you know, sometimes I get a little too married to the number. I was really impressed with BYU against Utah. Yep. Agreed. I thought it was a little schedule-y with them. You know, they finally played somebody. Although the more I watched Ampere with Utah, I think it limits them. I think it was kind of a fun story in the beginning, but that was also UCLA before they hired new households. as the head coach um but you know look that holy war those those teams hit the shit out of each other but bachmeyer like he's pretty good yeah yeah and it's it's hard because i've his older brother i lost so much money gambling as he traveled around the country and the number that pop up on a new new uh team and i would like week one i just bet a team and be like what the fuck i I bet on Hank Bobbier again.

1:56:52But, yeah, no, I was impressed with them. I also – I still like Oklahoma's – the problem with Oklahoma is their schedule is just so ridiculous. But their defense is good. I'm a big material guy. I do think he came back too fast against Texas. But, like, if they can somehow – they just play so many hard teams. They finished their schedule Ole Miss at Tennessee, at Alabama, Missouri, LSU. Like, that's a murderer's row. but if they somehow finish it three and two, I don't know. And there's, you know, the three loss conversation comes in. They would – their resume would be up there with anyone else.

1:57:28Yeah, and Ohio State's got Penn State, Purdue, UCLA, Rutgers, and then Michigan. So, you know, I can see how people look at the Big Ten and go, yeah. Oh, stop. We made – oh, we made such good headway. All right, I got one last question. Again, by the way, if you're listening, please try. At least – hold on. Should we at least mention Notre Dame with this? Because I know you already brought them up. You're absolutely right. The car is good. And look, love, however you want to just talk about like football players. Yes. Jeremy Bernard's one of my favorite football players in all college football to receive for Alabama.

1:57:57Like every time he gets something out to the sideline, it's like a five yard gain. And then the guy has the angle on him and he goes to tackle him. And it's like, guess who's still standing up on the sideline? It's Jeremy Bernard. Like the guy's nuts. Love for Notre Dame. I don't think there's 10 better football players in college than him. Again, I'm not talking about draft picks or the scarcity or the importance of the position or whatever, but every time that kid gets going, I'm like, I don't think there's that many players that are playing on Saturdays that are better than he is. He should be Heisman.

1:58:27I mean, what he did was special. He should be Heisman. Dude, how about the Heisman stuff right now? Who the hell is going to win? No one knows. So you know what I'm hoping for? Because Jeremiah Love was my Heisman pick before the season. Did you bet on him? Of course you did. I really want Jeremiah Love to get almost identical to Ashton Gentry's numbers and then just be like, we fucked up last year, guys. We got to make it right. We got to vote Jeremiah Love this year. He's not going to get to his numbers, but he does have a soft schedule at the end. And also, Notre Dame, by the way, I said it after they started 0-2.

1:58:59I was like, they're actually in the exact same spot they were last year because the Northern Illinois loss was one loss. This is two losses to playoff teams. They're going to run the table. They're going to figure it out. They're going to be in the playoff. And I think more than that, they're a legit, very, very good team now where it's not just, oh, they played a soft schedule. They figured some stuff out, and they lost with a freshman quarterback on the road week one in Miami, and then lost with a fucked-up kick against Texas A &M, who's undefeated. Notre Dame is good. Notre Dame is good. Yeah, the NC State game was kind of like a weird slow start, and then once they've given up a ton of points to Purdue, because I was in the same boat as everybody else.

1:59:39But again, I think we do it far too often. It's like, okay, they have these two good losses. We all agreed that Carr was good. We felt good about Carr after losses, which is an okay thing to do. The same way I felt great about Howard and the loss against Oregon last year because I didn't really know what to make of him coming over from K-State. And then even losing, I go, you know what, though? They have something in Howard here. So they're going to be okay. Yeah. And I think the same thing, you know, even though Howard had a longer resume of games that we'd seen him play in, And CJ being new, that Miami game was like, hey, this looked like everything was working against him, and now he's got this team back into this whole thing.

2:00:13But there were then after we just go, hey, they're going to be favored against the next 10 opponents. It's like, okay, but we're acting like it's way too easy to be like, okay, they'll just have to go 10-0 now. Yeah. Having said that, even with how come the defense is a little weird, they look like they could have scored 100 points against Arkansas. Yeah. And, yeah, the NC State game was kind of like a weird start to the whole thing. but there's just a lot that I really like and it starts with love of running back. And, you know, it's a kind of a two headed monster there. So the offense is fine.

2:00:43I don't, I don't know if the defense will be as good as, I mean, what are we talking about elite defenses right now? Two teams, Ohio state and Indiana. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, A &M has some really good stats, you know, but I don't, I don't know. Yeah. You know, and then, you know, coming off the Arkansas game, it makes it – it's a tough case to make that A &M's defense is the level of those other two Big Ten teams. I agree. Okay, so Ryan, everyone subscribe. New podcast coming out November 3rd. I have one last question, Roback question, RHOBACK.com, promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase, Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, Roback.com, promo code TAKE.

2:01:24Who's going to win the NBA title? I'm picking the Denver Nuggets. Okay. Nice. Interesting. There's no reason to pick against OKC. They're going to be even better. Chet will be better. He'll probably play a few more games. I mean, he missed like 50 games last year. Jalen Williams, even though he's got this issue that he's dealing with and he's going to be in the opener tonight, he likely would be better. Wallace will be better. They've got Topic. They're just going to be better. So it doesn't make any sense. Anybody that wants to pick him, I'm like, hey, that's great. I picked him last year. I want to do something a little different this year, so I'm picking the Denver Nuggets.

2:01:59Okay, and in the East, how big of a disappointment would it be if the 76ers did not make the NBA Finals this year? Good question. Wait, how big of a... But if they're like a 48-50 win team and Embiid's healthy and they're ready to go, look, he's never gotten out of the second round. So an Easter Conference Finals appearance for that team would be a huge win. So I wouldn't – if they didn't get through the East, I would never be like, oh, hey, that's – no, I wouldn't be like, hey, that's a real huge disappointment they weren't able to get through. I would. I mean, he's the MVP. He won the MVP. It's a down year for the East.

2:02:40You've got a lot of superstars injured that would be on teams that would be in their way, teams that have bounced them out of the playoffs in the past. This, to me, is as open as it's ever going to be for the Sixers. Cleveland's really good. And I know that they don't have the playoff success, but that team won 64 games last year. DeAndre Hunter coming over to the trade only played 27 with them. It's the most expensive team in the league, so it's got to work out this year. And I know Mitchell has probably more playoff disappointments, but if you look at his individual stuff and what he's been able to do, Like this is all time.

2:03:11Like when he cranks it up in a playoff game, like he can kind of hang with almost like anyone historically from a scoring standpoint. So I am so down on the Sixers that I can't sit here and say, if they don't get to the NBA finals, this is a massively difficult, just writing the ship and then being competitive and being, that would mean that they, that Cleveland, New York or Orlando, two of those three teams are out and Philly's playing one of those. just that would be I think a massive massive successful season for who the Sixers have been here the last couple years. I just believe in the Sixers a little bit more than you guys.

2:03:48I think Sixers in the East easily. No this isn't a bit Max. You gotta know what they're doing. This is crazy that it's gone this long and that you've like taken this as a serious question. Welcome to Barstool Ryan you just got pranked. they're just making fun of him we're setting Max up we're setting him up for our ultimate disappointment Max you don't think this team is going to be any good do you? no

2:04:18if they got to the Eastern Conference Finals that would be great that would be awesome oh man PFT is like a big NFL guy so I was like maybe he's just not he's not honed up I'm a Josh Harris guy And Josh Harris, he owns the Sixers. So that's what he does. He gets to the Eastern Conference Finals. I like Josh Harris. And if you hire Bob Myers, who's one of the single most impressive human beings I've ever encountered. Whoa. Then. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. That's a high ranking. What's your most impressive human being you've ever met? Stanford Steve. He's pretty impressive. And it says he might be. Drinking next to Stanford Steve is that's.

2:04:56Yeah. I mean, he's got a hollow leg. He might be my most impressive dude. Yeah. He's number one dude. Yeah, but Bob Myers, that's an impressive man. I've seen Steve drunk once, and I've drank a lot with him. Yep. There was only one time where I'm like, wait, is your equilibrium off right now? Like, you're always so – I mean, like, that's not even it. He'll have some random play for you and be like, what are you against the spread this year? Be like, 11 and 2 on Saturdays. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Stanford Steve's a pretty good pick. DiCaprio, Bob Myers, or Stanford Steve, you can't go wrong with any of those three.

2:05:31No, that's a good trio. Who knows? Leo might be a distant third and hanging out, although the water gun fights look fun. Also, you haven't spent enough time with White Sox Dave yet, which we'll fix. So he could be easily in your top three soon. Yeah, no, that's definitely – there's some, like, video-only stuff that we talked to Portnoy about doing, and I was like, whatever I do, White Sox Dave, White Sox Dave, White Sox Dave, just want to be in it. Maybe, like, a long-form thing or even a travel show. Oh, travel show. Donnie goes to Turkey. Yeah, but White Sox Dave was like, we can go to Michigan.

2:06:06Yeah. What about Nikki Smokes? You can go to a dive bar that's not a dive bar. The possibilities are endless here at Barstool. Maybe get Ben Mintz to show you around Baton Rouge. Yeah.

2:06:20Mintz is looking for someone to videotape him going to Mexico for widespread panic New Year's. It's four nights. I think you're the guy for the job. That's also in my contract. No Ben Mince. It's just like I don't want to ruin what it is for me. Yeah. I don't want it to be real. Yeah. I like being a voyeur. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Everyone subscribe. Ryan, his first new pod is coming out November 3rd with Saruti and Kyle. And please subscribe everywhere you get pods. Number one. Number one. I like that. It's pretty good. Yeah. I've always wanted to do that tweet, and I will say goodbye here, but we have a lot of friends.

2:07:06They launch the new feed, and then the new feed is up. And then if you have any subscriber growth, which is usually pretty easy to accomplish when it starts at zero to whatever the new thing is, the Apple show rankings just freak out. They freak out. And so there's been a few people that have suggested that it's real. so I was like when it happens to me because I knew it was going to happen I was like I'm going to post oh my god I'm number one with part of my take it's so clearly number one in sports they're so number one that I'm offended when other people do it because of you guys I'm offended for you not even for me so I was like when I go to number one and then I went to like in the middle of the hostage release I was like ahead of the New York Times I don't think that's accurate yeah I don't know all categories yeah all categories I was like right up there with the heavy hitters and it also just reminds me of like some of the people that don't even understand that they're not number one so it's like the people that know they're not number one and then mislead the public and then the next tier is the person that has no idea that they actually aren't number one and they're like holy shit I'm number one in comedy you're like you're not you're not so I always wanted to post that when I knew it was going that happened to me to be like hey i'm number one and then be like i'm actually not number one and this is why it shows that i'm number one but it's going to do all right i think i think the rumors that you're romantically linked with sabrina carpenter those helped yeah like that's that helps new heights what if you guys were an item you'd probably be number one yeah look when i like the kelseys but that relationship probably cost me so much money i don't care you guys i'm fucking kidding we should sue taylor swift same because you were just like oh this is kind of a funny little thing yeah and then you know you're like oh what oh shit and they're playing in the super bowl against each other yeah jesus christ i'm a free agent while this is happening and now they're getting engaged and now she got her master's back i'm I'm like, fucking slow down the content train.

2:09:04My deal's up here. And I was like, I don't know what to do here. And my agent's like, is there anything you can do? And I was like, I'd probably not date somebody like that. And he's just like, well, not with that fucking attitude. Get out there. Come on, Ryan. You're a catch. You know, you're just going through the Mad Men roster of like, who was in this that I could DM? I'm still not seeing anybody. And he'd be like, you know what I really loved is in season four when you – all right. All right, Ryan, you're the best. Everyone subscribe. And we are – there's talks. I was texting with Saruti.

2:09:40There's talks of maybe figuring out a time when we can get your three boys in here to maybe do a Thursday night football stream or something. So we'll figure that out. Yeah, can't wait. We will do that. We'll get to Chicago. I know Kyle is really excited about it. And he's the only person I've ever met that desperately, desperately wanted to move back to Poughkeepsie, New York. And he, you know, this allowed him to get to move home. And the guy loves his family and he wanted to be near his family. So he, he got to move home. And so part of it, I was like, well, you can move to Chicago if you want.

2:10:15And he was like, well, does that mean Poughkeepsie's off the table? I'm like, dude, totally on the table. Because, you know, he didn't want to live in LA. So he gets to go home, but he'll be in Chicago. So thanks, guys. Thanks for everything. Appreciate it. All right. Thanks, Ryan. Ryan Russillo is brought to you by Campbell's and the Chunky Mantry. It's a place where one can do and or get everything they crave from one spot. You can eat delicious food, watch football. You can listen to your favorite sports podcast. You can do it all in the Chunky Mantry. I've actually been fully on into soup, the soup season.

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2:12:50Yeah, actually. Just do tell. Well, Hank... They're just bad people. I don't remember it. No, Hank... I'll tell the story. Hank was 10 years late. No, that PFT talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I started watching the Sopranos, and I was like, I'm watching the Sopranos, guys. Okay, so now you're gatekeeping when a person can watch or not watch a show. No. That's fucked up. That's really what you're doing. You can't expect there to be no spoilers. It's 10 years late. Like, spoilers happen naturally in life. Who cares? you guys privately i was watching a show and then you guys decided to not tell me privately spoilers on the podcast that i was producing that we had to record so i could not literally could not avoid it okay you said it into the mic that i would then have to listen to in real time and listen to again well to be fair hank i thought that you knew that adriana was a rat christopher turned her into the fbi and he said that he was just gonna like go out for a while and they were gonna I move away.

2:13:43And then she got picked up in a car and taken to the woods and shot. We thought that you knew that already. I'd like to say something. But no, you didn't. You knew I didn't know that because I told you where I was in the watching. I thought you knew that Sylvia was going to pick her up and be like, we're going to the hospital and then take her to the woods. Can I say something? Please, Hank? I guess. Yeah, fine. The way you just explained it, I want to say that's really fucked up on us and we're assholes. like hearing it back that was fucked up we are it was a segment on the show called spoilers we're assholes that's not true that's not true you just invented that you guys would do it you guys would just weave them into the show like for weeks it wasn't a one time thing we're bad people and we took something like when Bobby Bacala was with his train set and he got whacked like we took something you loved and then we killed you right in front of it I never finished it, so I didn't love it.

2:14:41I was like, I'm liking this show, and then you spoiled it for me. Our bad. Our bad. I think we're just talking about pop culture on this show. It's not like we ran over your head like Phil Leotardo's head. It popped. I don't know what that means. His head popped. It was crazy. In a gas station. What do you want us to do? Suck your dick? I don't know what that means. Like Vito? In the whole season that he was gay? Sure. Okay. He's still mad about this. He's still very upset about this. We do sound like... There's no telling of the story that doesn't make PFT and I look like assholes. There's not.

2:15:19I like how you tried to apologize there, and Hank was like, I don't know why you're apologizing. And then PFT said one more thing, and then he just ignored what you said about apologizing. Continue to be mad at PFT. Yeah. Listen, Hank, if you're going to get it spoiled by somebody, you'd want it to be somebody that you knew and trusted, Like when Tony, when Steve Buscemi and waited for him with a shotgun outside his house. Oh, his cousin. Yeah. Steve Buscemi was in Sopranos. Yeah. Fresh out of jail. You should watch it. He tried to become a massage therapist afterwards. He tried to go straight, but it wasn't working out for him.

2:15:52He had a rage problem. Fell back on that life. And then Tony found out he was going off the handle and doing jobs for other crews. And then Tony was like, if someone's going to kill him, it should be me. Yeah. That's how we felt about it. We didn't want some random person online to spoil it for you. so we did it ourselves do you think there's anyone right now who's listening to Sopranos or watching Sopranos for the first time spoiler alert no every time I sprinkle one in I get one person to be like what the fuck well this was a lot yeah it was a lot of money this was a lot this was a lot so you could just ruin it for yeah yeah we might have just fucked that like Carmella fucked AJ's teacher sup PMT guys appreciate all that you guys do if you weren't doing the pod or anything with Barstool period what career do you think you guys would have hating my life i would uh i think i would have gone back to the used dog game i think that would have been a lot of fun uh yeah i don't know i don't know i try not to think about that because at this point we're so far down this hole that it's like we don't really have any skills that would transfer over to a real job i am in terms of the real world, I am so fucking stupid.

2:17:03I don't know what I would do. Yeah, you're telling me. Sitting in a meeting, typing things, these are things I don't have any ability to do anymore. Logging on to teams? I almost wanted to be an accountant. No offense to accountants. I'm so far down the line of like, I'm just a stupid, stupid person now i may be the least proficient person in excel in the world have you gotten dumber yeah i i'll i can never work a real job right at this point it's too late burn the boats i remember life freshman year i just i don't think i would have ended up working a real job when i started working here but now i definitely would not be able to i will say there are some times that i kind of there's i don't want to shit on people who are sitting in an office right now because there's parts of it that are like we never get to turn it off.

2:18:03Like going to games, having weekends where you don't have to, you know, be glued to everything. That's what I like about the Monday Night Football games. I know. The standalone. You get to just kind of chill on the couch. Shout out to all the hardworking people out there. Thank you for listening. We didn't mean to. We were more shitting on Max being an accountant. Max would be the worst. You'd go to jail if you hired him to account for you. I just got like one good grade in an accounting class freshman year, and I was like, maybe I could be an accountant, make decent money. Do you know how to use a spreadsheet?

2:18:33At the time, I was okay. Now, no. We're just so far gone. I'm so far gone. Yeah, I'm out of that. Even having a formal meeting with anyone is just uncomfortable. I've aged out of the workforce. Can you imagine logging into Microsoft Teams or whatever every morning? I don't know how to use anything. Yeah, Slack. I use three things on my computer. I'd be slacking. We use Slack. Yeah, you guys do. They do Slack. They Slack. They talk shit about us on Slack. That's not true. Oh, memes. A little bit. No, no, no. No. What would you do? You were an accountant. Account receivable. Account receivable. What is that?

2:19:12That sounds like account. See, I don't even know what that is. It's a part of accounting. It's money that comes in. When we started Stella Blue, I remember I sat in a meeting and they were talking about P &L. and I had to pull someone aside after. I was like, hey, they keep saying that shit. What does that mean? Profits and losses. So accounts deliverable is what? That's paying people? Memes? You said accounts deliverable? Yeah. Receivable? No, deliverable. Were you receivable? There's accounts payable and there's accounts receivable. Which one were you? Accounts receivable. That's money coming in.

2:19:46Accounts payable is money going out. You were getting money? Hmm? You were getting money? Assets in there somewhere? we're breaking people's brains accounts receivable is for the diva accountants wait you were getting money in you were just counting the money that was coming in money coming in you were just counting it yeah do bosses like the people in that department more than they like the people in the accounts payable because like these are my I get money guys like these are they like everybody the same these are jobs I don't even I've gotten so stupid, functionally stupid, that when you ask what jobs would you be, I'm like, firefighter, astronaut?

2:20:29Major League Baseball. I don't know what accounts receivable is. I'm sure we have it here. Okay, good question. Who smells the best? I would guess maybe Zach. Zach, you a cologne guy? I'm not a huge cologne guy. No, I'm just a soap guy, deodorant guy. I smell pretty good. I have some cologne I wear. Yes. I got on Gruden's cologne. Oh, the Creed? Yeah. It's good shit. It's good shit. I've started to take a little cologne in the mornings. I wouldn't say that we're a particularly great smelling crew. I don't think we're bad. I think we're neutral. We're a neutral smelling podcast. I would argue that's the best place to be.

2:21:09Sometimes when guys smell too good, it's like, what are you trying to do? No, I do one. Mention smell good. Yeah. I do one spritz of cologne on my, when I get out of the shower on with no shirt on that way. Cause I do think that if you spray it on your shirt, it becomes too much. Yeah. So I just like to have a little bit of it on my body and then, you know, a faint hint of it. Do you ever put it on your wrist? Nah. Cause I feel like that's too much. Yeah. It's too much. You don't want to be a too much cologne guy. You know who the best smelling person I've ever met in real life is? Never in a million years.

2:21:39I do. Oh yeah. I probably told you. I mean, Jerry is number one. No, no. Out of all the people that we've met doing this show, there's one person that smells far and away better than any other celebrity I've ever met. And I guarantee you 0 % of the people that are listening to this will guess it correctly. Okay, give it to me. It's Carrot Top. Oh! Carrot Top smells incredible. Wow. I would not have guessed it. No. And it was shocking to the point where I was asking other people, like, hey, you smelling this guy? They're like, yeah, he smells amazing. He was doing a live Celebrity Dozen with us.

2:22:09I think that was in Vegas, right? and i asked him i was like carrot top what what is that smell that you have and he would not tell me he said he has his own custom cologne holy shit just for him that he wears and it's listen it delivers whatever he pays for it it works you guys know what they make cologne out of and perfume what are you gonna say like dog asshole pretty much oh shit whale shit oh they make cologne out of whale shit why are you looking at assets liabilities and owners equity I said remember I said assets I was like I'm pretty sure there's some sort of equation with assets And I was right But accounts receivable part of assets We're stupid Idiot jazz That it?

2:22:55That's it Okay Good show guys Good show Numbers Three Oh That was Hank

2:23:08What do we got? Pug's making the decision. That'd be track number seven. That'd be me. Oh, damn. You fucked him up. You fucked him up, memes. Pug off of a win? Should have gone 99. Ralph Cifaretto when he thought that he killed his horse. 33. And we'll never know. I'll go 25. We're 22. And I'll wait until Jack takes it. Seven. 44. Ah. 99, Pug. 86. What do you have, Pia? 37. Anybody else take 37? I took 33.

2:23:47Let's see. 53. 53? Anyone? Anyone? 53. Anyone? One more real quick. The same numbers? Yes. Real quick. Real quick. Same numbers. Same numbers. Who's going to fucking win? No, you're going to get it. You're going to get it, dude. We do multiple numbers. numbers is good for you. The more numbers is better for you. This is good for you. Hank wasn't getting these many polls. That's facts. We literally did one more. 55. 55. 55. No one. Love you guys.

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