Shane Victorino, Open Championship Preview W/ Shane Bacon, Kyle Schwarber Wins The First Ever Swing Off, Mt Rushmore Of Things People Don't Care About

16 Jul 2025 · 2 h 27 min · 67 chapters

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In short

The hosts recap the MLB All-Star Game’s first-ever “swing-off” tiebreaker, debate why stars like Shohei Ohtani and Aaron Judge weren’t there, and discuss fixes for future swing-offs. They also do sports talk (Home Run Derby reactions, Phillies/Red Sox/Cubs playoff positioning, NFL contract drama around Terry McLaurin, LeBron/Cavs rumors), plus “Hot Seat/Cool Throne” segments and a Mount Rushmore of “things people don’t care about.”

Guests

Shane Victorino (interviewed later in the episode; no background details provided in the transcript). Shane Bacon (co-host/guest for an Open Championship preview; no background details provided in the transcript).

Guest backgrounds (from what’s shown)

None included in the provided transcript excerpt beyond their names and that Shane Bacon previews the Open Championship.

Key claims

  1. Kyle Schwarber dominated the All-Star swing-off: three swings, three home runs, “three no-doubters,” winning the tiebreaker.
  2. Ohtani and Judge likely left early (the hosts cite Jesse Rogers reporting they were “probably on a plane”), sparking debate about whether leaving is “lame.”
  3. The swing-off should be declared before the game so players can’t leave; otherwise, the “solution” fails.
  4. Ranger Suárez reportedly declined All-Star participation; Phillies players were upset.
  5. Terry McLaurin contract dispute: he wants to stay in D.C.; hosts discuss his $15M this year ($5M signing bonus) and free agency next year.

Notable examples

  • Pete Alonso’s Home Run Derby focus and MVP logic for staying in the All-Star.
  • Teddy Bridgewater’s high school coaching suspension for paying player-related expenses (Uber/meals/recovery).
  • Conor McGregor unsolicited dick pic controversy (Azealia Banks).
  • Zach receives Tampa Bay Buccaneers 50th-anniversary jersey preview.

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Episode Overview

1:26 to 2:44

Discussion of episode segments including Mount Rushmore and swing-off.

“And we're going to do our Mount Rushmore of things no one cares about.”

Kyle Schwarber's Swing-Off Victory

2:53 to 4:21

Analysis and excitement surrounding Kyle Schwarber's performance in the All-Star game.

“Today is Wednesday, July 16th, and Kyle Schwarber is the man.”

Debate on All-Star Participation

4:21 to 7:30

Discussion on player participation in the All-Star game, focusing on Aaron Judge and Shohei Ohtani.

“Kyle Schwerber was the first non-pitcher to win MVP without getting a hit in the game.”

Home Run Derby Critique

7:30 to 11:13

Critique of the Home Run Derby format and calls for a return to the old rules.

“I don't understand why all the players were so mad.”

Terry McLaurin's Contract Situation

11:13 to 14:00

Discussion on Terry McLaurin's contract negotiations and recent comments about his future.

“If you hit it far, you get another extra out.”

The Confidence Guarantee

14:00 to 16:44

The hosts discuss their confidence level in Terry McLaurin's contract situation and debate guarantees.

“I know I think Peter King put that in his column for years I know I think that sounds less guaranteed that is less guaranteed than guaranteed I think I know that I'm willing to guarantee this.”

Trade Rumors and El Camino Stakes

16:44 to 18:44

The conversation shifts to potential trade rumors involving McLaurin and the implications for the El Camino wager.

“So it seems like at this point when you have a quarterback that's on the rookie contract this is the time to pay guys.”

Speculation on McLaurin's Future

18:44 to 21:26

Discussion about McLaurin's future with the Commanders and speculation on potential trades to other teams.

“It's not great that it got to this point where now he's doing public disputes with things and saying that they haven't talked to him, they haven't made him an offer recently.”

Physicality of NFL Players

21:26 to 23:24

The hosts share stories about NFL players' physical presence and their own experiences with injuries.

“I guess if I root for you, then I would be rooting against Hank, right?”

LeBron's Desperation

23:24 to 24:21

The hosts discuss LeBron James's recent social media activity and his desire to return to the Cavaliers.

“Just a good old Vrabel handshake will get you.”
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Hot Seat, Cool Throne

25:39 to 28:00

The hosts discuss various topics in the hot seat and cool throne segments, including Uno's Vegas plans.

“It was first reported on this show by one PFT commenter that they were going to be able to play Uno in Vegas for money as a casino game.”

Red Sox Winning Streak and All-Star Break

28:00 to 29:55

Discussion about the Red Sox's winning streak and their upcoming games.

“People got mad at me for not bringing this up on Monday.”

Paul George and NBA Draft Busts

29:56 to 31:37

Insights on Paul George's injury and discussions around NBA draft busts.

“The NL has the Mets, the Phillies, the Cubs, the Brewers, the Cardinals are not out of it.”

Mount Rushmore of Philadelphia Busts

31:38 to 33:22

Debate on the biggest busts in Philadelphia sports history.

“And then the Sixers traded a ton to get him.”

Teddy Bridgewater's Controversial Suspension

33:23 to 37:12

Discussion on Teddy Bridgewater's actions as a high school coach and related suspensions.

“Vijay Edgecombe had one – he played one game, had 28 points.”

Conor McGregor's Controversial Situation

37:13 to 39:41

Exploration of Conor McGregor's recent controversies including unsolicited messages.

“They're getting thousands of views on Instagram, on their highlight reels.”

Tampa Bay Buccaneers Surprise Package

39:42 to 42:00

Unboxing of new Buccaneers uniforms and a letter from the team.

“I was confused at the difference in the two pictures, but the second one you could see.”

Buccaneers Jersey Unveiling

42:00 to 43:30

Discussion about the new Buccaneers jersey and its significance.

“buccaneers history inside this box is an early look at the modern nod to the original 1976 jersey that helped define the start of the Buccaneers football.”

Hot Seat Cool Throne Segment

43:30 to 44:12

The hosts introduce a segment where they nominate individuals for the hot seat and cool throne.

Home Run Derby Predictions

44:12 to 48:44

The hosts discuss predictions and expectations for an upcoming home run derby.

“All right, Zach, your hot seat cool drum.”

Mount Rushmore of Things People Don't Care About

48:53 to 56:01

The hosts engage in a humorous ranking of things that people generally do not care about.

“Whether you're making a Target run for toothpaste, paper towels, or somehow spending$200 on things you didn't know you needed, stop by the coffee section and see why everyone is turning to Stella Blue.”

Soccer and MLS: A Debate

56:01 to 58:27

The hosts discuss the relevance of soccer and the MLS, debating who cares about it.

“And then for the last one, we're going to go soccer.”

Things People Don't Care About

58:28 to 1:01:24

A humorous exploration of various topics that the hosts and guests feel people generally do not care about.

“I think the Pro Bowl is a stronger pick than the NBA.”

More Things People Don't Care About

1:01:25 to 1:08:17

Continuing the discussion, the hosts share more personal takes on what they believe people overlook.

“Yeah, because it shows our fans, the AWLs.”

Interview with Shane Victorino

1:08:26 to 1:10:00

Shane Victorino joins the hosts to discuss his career, championships, and experiences.

“Now here is the flying Hawaiian, Shane Victorino.”

Comparing Sports Towns: Philly vs. Anaheim

1:10:00 to 1:12:08

Shane discusses the passionate sports cultures of Philadelphia and Anaheim and the significance of their championships.

“And people don't talk about that all the time.”

The Importance of Championships

1:12:08 to 1:14:15

Shane reflects on the rarity of championships in Philadelphia and how it shapes the city's sports identity.

“is that that's what is where I feel like they come egotistic about it because they don't have many.”

Overcoming Slumps in Baseball

1:14:15 to 1:16:39

Shane shares insights on the mental challenges of baseball and how players deal with long slumps.

“But in 99, you know, there was really nothing.”

Early Career Decisions and Hawaii

1:16:39 to 1:19:08

Shane discusses his youth in Hawaii, early sports decisions, and how he transitioned to baseball.

“You know, you're doing a radio station if you're.”

Experiencing Cold and First Snow

1:19:08 to 1:21:17

Shane recounts his first encounters with snow and the challenges of playing in colder climates as a baseball player.

“It's not even just the, you know, what's in the water.”

Favorite Teammates and Memorable Moments

1:21:17 to 1:23:59

Shane talks about his favorite teammate and shares anecdotes from his baseball career, including a fun experience with the Savannah Bananas.

“why do people look it was so cold you're right yeah uh who's your favorite teammate from all your stops in Major League Baseball and why?”

Reflections on Grand Slams and Careers

1:24:00 to 1:25:16

Shane Victorino shares memories of his postseason grand slams and their impact on his perspective.

“I might have said one to John Farrell, I think, or somewhere.”

The Thrill of Winning

1:25:16 to 1:26:40

Victorino discusses the emotions associated with winning the World Series and the celebration that follows.

“is that the highest high coming back to the dugout?”

Going Back to Hawaii

1:26:40 to 1:28:14

Victorino recalls the significance of returning to Hawaii after winning the World Series and its impact on local youth.

“Because you guys got to just be like, get us out there.”

The Flying Hawaiian Nickname

1:28:14 to 1:29:50

The origin of Shane's nickname, 'The Flying Hawaiian,' and its significance in his career.

“So, yeah, it was definitely a big moment.”

Childhood Mishaps and Resilience

1:29:50 to 1:31:40

Victorino recounts his numerous childhood accidents and how they shaped his resilience.

“I don't know if it was Ron Darling or Kiro.”

Navigating ADHD and Sports

1:31:40 to 1:33:58

Victorino discusses his experiences with ADHD and the role of sports in managing it.

“So everything's still, she said, I literally was trying to run back to the bike and grab it.”

Memorable Moments in Baseball

1:33:58 to 1:36:30

The challenges and unexpected moments that arise while playing center field in baseball.

“I'm a very much for a wimp for the ocean.”

Becoming a Switch Hitter

1:36:30 to 1:38:01

Victorino describes his journey to become a switch hitter and the challenges that came with it.

“I also did get thrown out from center field, so that's also one of the greatest things that I've ever done.”

Transitioning to the Big Leagues

1:38:01 to 1:41:30

The discussion revolves around the challenges and experiences of adjusting to Major League Baseball.

“But he goes, if you become a switch hitter and you're willing to try it, there's nobody on this list.”

Facing the Toughest Opponents

1:41:31 to 1:43:16

Shane Victorino shares his experiences facing the most challenging pitchers in his career, including a notable mention of Steven Strasburg.

“But who was the filthiest, like, God damn it, this shit is just different?”

Special Moments and Fan Interactions

1:43:27 to 1:45:08

The conversation highlights memorable moments in baseball and interactions with fans, including a humorous incident with a young fan named Max.

“He is – you're one of his favorite players ever.”

Special Moments and Fan Interactions

1:45:09 to 1:46:54

The conversation highlights memorable moments in baseball and interactions with fans, including a humorous incident with a young fan named Max.

“You didn't know if you were getting the Brett Myers that was going to be straight or you didn't get the guy that was going to throw at the guy's head for no reason.”

Special Moments and Fan Interactions

1:46:59 to 1:47:59

The conversation highlights memorable moments in baseball and interactions with fans, including a humorous incident with a young fan named Max.

“Rise from high school recruit to Heisman legend or submit your legacy as a coach by leading your program to glory.”

Golf Insights with Shane Bacon

1:49:14 to 1:52:00

Shane Bacon discusses the upcoming Open Championship, detailing the unique characteristics of Royal Portrush and golf strategies.

“And now for something completely different.”

Understanding the Challenges of Lynx Golf

1:52:00 to 1:53:10

Learn about the unique challenges of playing Lynx golf courses and the factors that influence success.

“And the first hole on Thursday hits it out of bounds and made, I think he made it eight in this opening hole and shot 79.”

Golfing Strategies for Success in the Open

1:53:10 to 1:54:42

Explore the necessary skills and strategies for success at the Open Championship.

“And so those will be the names to kind of focus on as Thursday gets going.”

Impact of Weather on the Open Championship

1:54:42 to 1:55:59

Understand how weather conditions can affect play in the Open Championship.

“golf tournament than maybe some of the other ones we play.”

The Unpredictability of Lynx Golf

1:55:59 to 1:57:19

Discuss the unpredictability and unique challenges of Lynx golf, where great shots may not be rewarded.

“I mean, that is the one weird thing about Scottie.”

Luck and Golfing Greats

1:57:19 to 1:58:25

Delve into the concept of luck in golf and which players might be considered lucky.

“And I think at golf it happens the most in these conditions versus most of the stuff we see the rest of the season.”

Mental Challenges for Professional Golfers

1:58:25 to 2:00:09

Explore the mental challenges golfers face and how they cope with high expectations.

“I pick him like seven times a year, and he never wins.”

The Fast-Paced Nature of Golfing Success

2:00:09 to 2:01:59

Examine how quickly narratives change in golf and the pressure players face to sustain success.

“And then it's like another golf tournament that quote-unquote matters as much as any other big signature events outside the majors, right?”

Caddy Relationships and Their Impact

2:01:59 to 2:03:24

Discuss the dynamics of caddy relationships and their importance in a golfer's performance.

“versus what you just got done and accomplished in your career?”

Current State of Golf's Competitive Landscape

2:03:24 to 2:05:20

Analyze the current competitive landscape of golf and the challenges faced by players.

“And I hope somebody I'm working with would hire him because he's a really, really good dude, thoughtful dude, and knows a ton about the game.”

Predictions for the Open Championship

2:05:20 to 2:06:01

Get insights on predictions for the Open Championship and potential standout players.

“And I don't think any of the players care about it anymore.”

Golf Predictions for the Open Championship

2:06:01 to 2:08:34

Discussion about golfers to watch for the Open Championship, including favorites and long shots.

“if I had one gun to head, gun to head, max, put your gun up.”

Brooks Koepka's Chances and Performance Analysis

2:08:35 to 2:10:34

Analyzing Brooks Koepka's chances in the upcoming tournament and his previous performances.

“I mean, I think, you know, I mean, obviously keep the train rolling.”

Brooks Koepka's Chances and Performance Analysis

2:10:41 to 2:11:00

Analyzing Brooks Koepka's chances in the upcoming tournament and his previous performances.

“Yeah, we do something with CBS on the YouTubes throughout the week, and then we'll do the HQ hits and all that good stuff as well.”

Golfing Stories and Experiences

2:11:21 to 2:13:48

Shane shares personal anecdotes about golfing experiences and challenges, including Australian wildlife.

“Shane, if you were playing Dungeons & Dragons with us, would you be complaining that it's going too long because you had a tee time?”

Wrap Up and Summer Plans

2:13:49 to 2:15:00

Discussion on summer activities, including the return to Barstool Camp and enjoying drinks like Mountain Dew Baja Blast.

“understand that that's true it's a good point uh all right well shane you're the best uh thank you appreciate you as always and uh we'll talk soon thanks boys okay let's wrap up the show It is summertime.”

Dating and First Date Ideas

2:15:01 to 2:16:44

Conversation about first date ideas and experiences, focusing on creating the right atmosphere.

“So go try Mountain Dew Baja Blast right now and get excited for our Barstool Camp coming up in a month.”

Shower Routines and Grooming Habits

2:16:45 to 2:20:01

Light-hearted discussion about personal grooming routines, including body wash and hair care.

“I just want to say that I've been listening for years, and Zach is one of the most genuine and well-intentioned people you guys have had on the show.”

Unconventional Life Hacks

2:20:01 to 2:21:00

Learn about bizarre life hacks and all-in-one body wash ideas.

“If you get stuck in a situation where you have a clogged toilet, just find a little plastic bag.”

Dating Advice and Opening Lines

2:21:00 to 2:22:20

Explore creative opening lines and dating advice from the hosts.

“First of all, speaking for the lady at AWLs, we're very offended Max wouldn't consider attending a bachelorette party for his punishment.”

Flowers vs. Chili's on Dates

2:22:20 to 2:23:46

Debate the pros and cons of giving flowers and going to Chili's on first dates.

“On the first date, you go absolutely need flowers.”

Ernie Johnson's Flower Tradition

2:23:46 to 2:25:00

Discuss the tradition of giving flowers and its implications in dating.

“Doesn't Ernie Johnson, every time he goes to the grocery store, he gets a dozen roses for his wife?”

Beer Tasting and Ratings

2:25:00 to 2:26:06

Join the crew as they rate different beers and discuss their choices.

“I didn't know it was Chargers Jersey Day.”
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1:25PFT Commenter:giving you some winners. And we're going to do our Mount Rushmore of things no one cares about. We have Hot Seat, Cool Throne. We have Guys on Chicks. And we're going to talk about the swing off in the All-Star Game. What happens when you lock 18 co-workers in an office for one week to compete for a quarter million dollars of cash? This is Surviving Barstool Season 5, presented by Rumble Premium, where each episode releases three hours early. So get an ad-free before anybody else only when you join Rumble Premium. New episodes of Surviving Barstool will be released every Sunday and Wednesday leading up to the Labor Day finale on September 7th.

2:08PFT Commenter:You can watch Surviving Barstool at 5 p.m. on Rumble Premium and everywhere else at 8 p.m. Eastern. Okay, let's go.

2:40PFT Commenter:Welcome to Part of My Take presented by DraftKings. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app and use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for new customers to get$150 in bonus bets instantly when you bet Just five bucks only on DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, July 16th, and Kyle Schwarber is the man. What a monster. Three swings, three dongs, three no-doubters. Three no-doubters. What a way to finish a baseball game. He's the best. Yeah, so for people who didn't tune into the All-Star game, we had the first ever swing-off in the All-Star game. It was tied after nine innings. They fixed it after the disaster that happened.

3:20PFT Commenter:what was it 20 years ago bud selig stands up calls the game off game off disgrace to the united states of america it really was but this time they had a solution the swing off each manager got to pick three guys and each guy had three swings and most home runs win and it was uh kyle schwerber it was kyle schwerber show because he hit three home runs and three swings absolute monsters he's the best I fucking love him forever he's the best the only and of course in in base in true baseball fashion uh we have a very cool thing a very cool moment and obviously everyone's just talking about where was Otani where is Aaron Judge well guess what they were probably on a plane because Jesse Rogers reported that that uh for everyone saying hey why aren't like the best home run hitters Kyle Schwarber is one of the best home run hitters competing in this uh they literally left and now we have the debate of is that leaving your team is that lame i do not care yeah uh bad bad leadership by aaron judge at

4:26Big Cat:the all-star game yeah uh nobody cares about that but it did feel like the national league manager was trying to win harder than the american league manager was yeah well i don't think i don't think they had anyone left pete alonzo was that was the closer pick yeah alonzo that's a no-brainer but he

4:43PFT Commenter:So Pete Alonso, I think, stayed because he was going to maybe win MVP. Kyle Schwerber was the first non-pitcher to win MVP without getting a hit in the game. But that's why I think Pete Alonso stayed. It was basically guys who were in the game late or were staying because they could potentially win MVP like Pete Alonso. I think Pete Alonso stayed because he thought there might be a swing-off.

5:03Big Cat:And this is what he secretly trained his entire career without even preparing for it. He just knew that he was putting in all those hours just hitting dingers off a batting machine, pitching machine, off a coach pitch, whatever. The man has been – he's cared about the Home Run Derby more than any other human being on planet Earth ever has cared about winning the Home Run Derby. He had an opportunity. He was a closer, put him in third. He didn't even have to swing. Didn't have to swing. He's pissed off about that.

5:26PFT Commenter:Yeah, but his three-run homer, like up until the swing-off, he probably would have been the MVP. But it was great. I loved it. And for people, like, yes, obviously, would you have liked to see Otani and Judge in it? Sure. But I also, like, if you're an all-star, you have a two-day break at most. They're probably going to want to get out of town.

5:48Big Cat:Yeah, I can understand that. Also, Max, I would like for you to apologize for the Ranger Suarez takes. Why? Because he turned down the all-star game. I don't know if that's true.

6:00PFT Commenter:Oh, okay. Can we fact check that? Just an eye. Just an eye. I'm not going to believe. We're not going to look it up. Why did every player on the Phillies get so upset about it if he turned it down?

6:12Big Cat:We're just talking about Ranger Suarez here. Can you answer me that? Are you counting yourself as one of the players? No. Yeah, definitely. He said he'd like to take a break. I don't blame him for that.

6:23PFT Commenter:The Phillies are pissed. When was he asked? What point was he at? It was a while ago. That's a good question. It was a while ago. Trying to help you here, Max. I'm also...

6:34Big Cat:Try to just Google, did Ranger Suarez turn down all-star information? Why wouldn't this be one of the first things that people are talking about? They're still talking about that. On X, the Everything app? Yeah. The website with a great search function?

6:44PFT Commenter:Yeah. Robert Suarez pitched in the game.

6:47Big Cat:There you go.

6:48PFT Commenter:So you got an R, Suarez.

6:49Big Cat:Now, I got to say, I like the swing-off. Yeah. Swing-off to end a game is great. Dude, it rocks. I want everything decided by swing-offs now. Regular season baseball games, swing-off.

7:01PFT Commenter:Child custody hearings, swing off. Swing off. I obviously understand people complaining. It would have been cool if Otani was in it. It would have been cool if Judge was in it.

7:10Big Cat:Yeah, but I mean, let's not let that get away. And it's also, you know, it's a simple fix.

7:15PFT Commenter:You just have to declare who your swing off is before the game starts. So then you have to stick around. Those guys can't leave. That's just something they didn't think about. And then it happened. What is that article? And now hopefully they'll fix it.

7:27Big Cat:Ranger Suarez said he declined participation in all-star games. Oh, that's interesting.

7:33PFT Commenter:What does that say, Max? I don't understand why all the players were so mad. I won't get mad because I was going off of the players being mad. If his own teammates are going to freak out about it, why shouldn't I? Okay. So you're mad because... I'm not mad. You were mad because other guys were mad. Because you and your teammates were mad. You're just being a good teammate. At what point would I have thought that that was true if all of his teammates went to his defense saying it was bullshit that he didn't get put in the All-Star game? Right. So, again, you're just being a good teammate. Your teammates are mad, so you're going to be mad with them.

8:13PFT Commenter:Correct. Yeah. But Kyle Schwarber. Awesome.

8:17Big Cat:He's the fucking best. Awesome. He is the best. Also, shout out Ludacris. Ludacris doing Welcome to Atlanta to start the All-Star game? Yep. Just put Ludacris on TV. I will watch it. I watched the performance twice after I got back to the office. We did our own home run derby tonight. How are the boys feeling?

8:33PFT Commenter:Bad. Really bad. Yeah, you're going to hear us in a few minutes where we taped in the beginning of the day and we did our predictions. And I think the only thing we said, Hank, was don't get injured. And we both got injured. Yeah, I said I did this. I tore my bicep blaster doing this. I'm trying not to do that again. I'm pretty sure I did. And I wanted to go 10 for 10. I did not go 10 for 10. Not to spoil the future episode.

8:55Big Cat:I was worried that you were going to ruin your swing. Your golf swing. That is not out of the question. Yeah, the bicep. Max, how do you feel? I'm okay. My hands hurt a little bit. My wrist hurts a little bit. And you're a beast. My back hurts a little bit. I'm not feeling great, but there's no injuries.

9:14PFT Commenter:Yeah. What about you, Memes? My hands are torn apart and my bicep. I jam my thumb on like this. Oh, yeah. Memes loves that tape. He was given the whole dugout that tape. Can you see our tape? And we do not know how to use it. We were using it all incorrectly. It's an extra muscle. Yeah. Someone said that to me. Yeah, T-Bob said it just replaces a muscle, which makes no sense. I had my thumb taped up, like fully wrapped for a while. Then I was like, this is ridiculous. I'm probably hurting myself more. Zach, you took some cuts. You looked good.

9:47Big Cat:I didn't get any over the wall. I did make contact. Thank you guys for letting me swing. That was awesome.

9:51PFT Commenter:Yeah, that was fun. And also, Zach, there was a moment. I'm pretty sure you were playing right field. You didn't move for like three hours.

10:00Big Cat:The visibility got a little dicey, and I was kind of stuck. I run straight to the balls when they hit the ground, but I was terrified of catching one to the face because I could not see them. There were a couple of them where you stood still, and then someone else came over, and I was saying, call them off, Zach. That's your ball. They tracked it way better than I did, for sure. If they're going to track it better, they got it.

10:25PFT Commenter:Speaking of home runs, our guy Big Dumper wins. Maybe a little bit of a – people were a little upset about the ruling against – was it Rooker who got screwed? Yeah, one inch, but I don't care because I love Big Dumper. Yeah, no, that's great. And it was great for him. But, yeah, people were a little upset about that. The home run derby sucks anyway.

10:47Big Cat:We just – we forget every single year. We tune in every year to the home run derby, and then we're like, oh, yeah, You can't actually see the home runs land and the next swing happen at the same time. And I hate the time. I hate the time. Go back to 10 outs. 10 outs. Make it simple. It's so easy. We love dingers. We're going to watch. That was don't don't have me trying to like I feel dizzy trying to follow the home run derby.

11:08PFT Commenter:It was such a it's not broken. Don't fix it situation. Yeah. 10 outs. 10 outs. Just do it every time. And they just got cute with it. And like the whole extra outs thing. Yeah. If you hit it far, you get another extra out. It's like if Jeff D. Lowe designed the home run derby. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. We're going to go to a bonus bonus route. Yeah. But, yeah, I am happy for Cal Raleigh. He's the man. Yeah, that was awesome.

11:34Big Cat:It was cool to see him win. Sorry for giving out James Wood to you guys. But, Max, you know, he went first. Tough situation. Going first is tough. Yeah, no, that was bullshit. Yeah. That was bullshit. I was backing him. I was telling everyone else that I was with to back him. Yep. But it's okay. 22. 22. 22 years old. 22 years old.

11:54PFT Commenter:22. Future face this league. Right? Many are saying. Yeah. Scotty Barnes. Future face this league. All right. Only other two. Well, I had three other stories I wanted to hit on real quick. Terry McLaurin.

12:09Big Cat:I don't think that's a national sports story. I think that's a national sports story. That's pretty regional. Sports podcast. All right. You know what?

12:15PFT Commenter:I'll do. Well, I don't understand. Garrett Wilson. Congrats, Meme.

12:18Big Cat:Garrett Wilson. Congrats, Meme. This is a great step into being a good organization. We have Sauce and Garrett Wilson locked up until 2030. Love that. While you were saying there's a couple other stories that I want you to touch on, Memes was just whispering to himself. Garrett Wilson.

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12:33PFT Commenter:I was going to hit it.

12:34Big Cat:It was one of the three. It eliminates distractions. Now you don't have to be like, is he getting traded to the Steelers? Is he getting traded to the Broncos? I would hate for that to be my wide receiver. Yeah, maybe. I guess it can be helpful to clear it up to me and our listeners because while we were doing the stream, this news was breaking in the chat, who was usually on point with reporting real news. I opened it up, and it just said Terry McLaurin retired? No, that's not true. He did not retire. Okay, all right, that's good. But why would they be saying that? He might have retired because he was doing an automotive commercial at the time.

13:06Big Cat:Now, listen, the way things go in the NFL, you're going to have contract negotiations. You're going to have guys that hold in, guys that hold out. So typically you don't have guys that go to do their standard Eastern Motors commercial and then use that as the platform to talk about the contract situation. But I feel like that's the last thing that Terry's got for him right now. He's like, I'm going to put some pressure on him. I'm going to talk about it at the commercial shoot. And yeah, he sounded like a guy that was frustrated. Now, he did not say that he wanted to play anywhere else. He said he wants to play in D.C.

13:36Big Cat:I think we're going to work it out, but I feel like this is hardball. I know that I think that we're going to work it out we talked about this recently right yeah and you said

13:49PFT Commenter:it's not a problem guaranteed I'm not worried he'll be returning right guaranteed so I think guaranteed to I think seems like a bit of a step down

13:59Big Cat:I well no he just changed it to I know I think I know I think Peter King put that in his column for years I know I think that sounds less guaranteed that is less guaranteed than guaranteed I think I know that I'm willing to guarantee this. I would like a percent it. Like, zero to 100. Guarantee is 100%. Zero is like. What's higher than 100 %? 110%. 110%. It's 110 % guarantee. That's a guarantee. I've offered Terry McLaurin 50 % of my golf winnings in perpetuity. What do we do then? So Hank owes him$4 ,000. If you're this confident, then you should put something up if he doesn't. Okay. Terry's coming.

14:39Big Cat:Terry's coming. 100 %? Yes, 110%. I said 110%. Don't take 10 % away.

14:44PFT Commenter:I do feel like this is going to get worse.

14:45Big Cat:What are you, my agent? But 120 %?

14:48PFT Commenter:He also feels like he's not happy.

14:50Big Cat:He's not happy, and that's the concern because he has been the one guy. He's played on three different team names for the Washington football clubs. He's always been there. He's been great even with terrible quarterbacks. I feel like for him, for the first time in his career, He's got a great quarterback they can play with. You don't want to walk away from that. Yeah. So he wants to keep playing. He wants to get paid. This is probably his last big contract. I think the paid is the most important part, not the quarterback thing. He's 30 years old. He wants to be paid. He wants to play here. I 100.

15:22Big Cat:Max, you know what? Fuck it. 125%. There we go. I just want to. 125%. Wow. I put my credibility on the line. And what happens if. Of which I have many. Goes and plays somewhere else. That would be. That would be painful. That'd be very painful.

15:38PFT Commenter:But what about your guarantee, 125 %? Your word would then mean nothing. Oh, wow. He's taking away your word, PFT. 125 %? What else do we have but our word on this show where we're always right? His word is his profession. PFT. My credibility, yeah. PFT. Which is also your job. We sidebar because it seems like they're ganging up on you. Because I'm about to say something fucking stupid. They're ganging up on you, PFT. Just remember. You'll get a cat? Remember PFT. this podcast, we are always right. We're always right. We never get anything wrong. I never report anything incorrect. We never get ahead of ourselves.

16:12PFT Commenter:No. So for you to do this would be maybe the end of the podcast.

16:16Big Cat:It is something that I feel so strongly about that I'm thinking about saying something stupid. Okay. Why don't you text it to me? Okay.

16:24PFT Commenter:I'm going to text it to you. And I'll say it. Terry McLaurin, by the way, so he is getting paid. What is he getting paid? his$15 million this year with a$5 million signing bonus and then he's an unrestricted free agent next year. So he would like some money. He deserves some money. He's a really good football player.

16:47Big Cat:Why wouldn't they pay him?

16:48PFT Commenter:That's a good question, Hank.

16:50Big Cat:So it seems like at this point when you have a quarterback that's on the rookie contract this is the time to pay guys. But we've gone out. We've got Laramie Tunsil. We'll have to pay him.

17:00PFT Commenter:Oh my god! Yes, yes.

17:02Big Cat:Say it, say it, say it, say it, say it.

17:04PFT Commenter:Well, it doesn't count because if I say it, he didn't say it. Then he should say it. No, no, no. He should not say this. He should not say this. I'll say it, but PFT can't be held to it because I'm saying it.

17:17Big Cat:He's going to be a commander. It's a guarantee. Why would he be held to it? 125 % guarantee. It's going to get done.

17:22PFT Commenter:All right. I'll just role play as PFT for a second. I 110 % think that Terry McLaurin is going to be a commander, and if he's not a commander, I'm willing to give Max my El Camino. Don't say that, BFG. That's stupid.

17:36Big Cat:You love that car. Yeah.

17:38PFT Commenter:You're getting caught up in the moment right now.

17:41Big Cat:It's really stupid to me. Because Max got you all worked up. I'm going to walk that back. I'm going to make this really easy on you. I will give it back to you if you give it to me because that seems like more of a hassle than I would really want. That's what I was thinking. Oh, wow. It feels like the El Camino died like this morning. No, El Camino, it's humming. It is humming. All the haters and doubters are down bad right now. They're being awful quiet. I said this was going to be the summer of the El Camino. I think coming into this summer, I put my full faith in the El Camino. You called it.

18:09Yeah.

18:10Big Cat:So, Max, I'll give you my El Camino if Terry McLaurin goes somewhere else. Okay. And in good faith, I will give it back to you.

18:17PFT Commenter:No, you should. If he goes somewhere else, you should give it to an AWO who. No, no, no. Oh, that's. That would be really. That's actually. Yeah. That wasn't part of the. That would be kind of cool. That wasn't part of the hypothetical. Imagine if he goes to the Broncos, we find a random Broncos fan, and we're like, hey, you can have PFT's El Camino.

18:32Big Cat:PFT would never say that. What are you doing? It's true. He did a bad job role-playing. My controls.

18:40PFT Commenter:Either way, Terry McLaurin, my controls.

18:43Big Cat:Terry McLaurin will be. Your controls. We're going to work it out. It's going to be fine. It's not great that it got to this point where now he's doing public disputes with things and saying that they haven't talked to him, they haven't made him an offer recently. It just has to work out, because if it doesn't.

18:56PFT Commenter:Where is he being Rumored to go

19:02Big Cat:Nowhere He's got one year left on his contract Jets I saw one hypothetical trade to the Jets You got Dove Klyman

19:11PFT Commenter:Well I would just like Fans of other teams in the NFL Maybe tweet at us And let us know if you would want El Camino If Terry McClellan played for your team It's too much of a headache It's like a little poll First thing I see Terry McLaurin contract dispute fuels Patriot trade buzz Whoa Yeah and Terry McLaurin That'd be awesome Oh my god that might kill you If Hank was riding around in your El Camino I would like get a little paint job Put Terry's number on it I told you it was stupid as shit Yeah there's a role play This is again still hypothetical role play The El McLaurin he's coming back of the four articles I'm seeing two of them are Patriots wow that's a lot of articles of the four heavy sports and NESN what's the link to surprising trade click that one the Sports Illustrated one this was probably AI they do AI articles just clicks and clicks and clicks Tennessee Titans

20:25Big Cat:the Tennessee Titans that would be a full-on cash grab I would not like that I know I Terry is a commander he's a commander he's a redskin football team and commander for life yeah okay when he goes to the Hall of Fame which one do you think he goes in as Tennessee Titan I think maybe he goes in as a football team he's uh he's gonna be he's gonna he's gonna stay we're gonna work it out cooler heads are gonna prevail okay I trust Adam Peters I trust Terry McLaurin everything's going to be fine. Stop saying it's not going to be fine. I'm on your side. You said rookie deal makes sense to pay someone like him.

21:02Yeah, it does. So then in theory if he got traded to the Patriots, they would pay for him. Or the Titans. Quarterback and a rookie deal.

21:11Big Cat:We're not entertaining these Florio creations that you're pulling out, Hank. BFT, I want it on the record. I'm on your side. I think he's going to be a commander. He's going to be a commander. Terry's a one uniform. Well, He's a three-uniform, one-city guy. Yeah. He's going to be a commander.

21:26PFT Commenter:That's the ultimate legacy. Yeah. Three different uniforms. What are you going to say, Max? No, I just... I'm rooting for you. No, you're who? Who you're not. Wait, who you rooting for? Fuck. I guess if I root for you, then I would be rooting against Hank, right? And you hate doing that. Fuck, that is true. I guess if I had to root for one of you... What about memes? He said there was a rumor. True. So wait, would you be upset? Hey, memes, would you be upset if Terry McLaurin? I guess it makes sense you'd root for a PFC because, like, Jane Daniels is kind of on the record. Top five QB this year.

22:01Top five QB. Yeah, it's true. Probably need someone like Terry McLaurin. That's actually... Yeah, it definitely helps. No, actually, no. You know what? Jane Daniels doesn't even need Terry McLaurin. Still a top five QB. You could put Jane Daniels out with any receiving core in the NFL. Top five quarterback, no doubt.

22:15Big Cat:We got Fast Ebo. Fast Ebo. Fast Ebo. Yeah, fast emo. Yeah, fast emo. Who Kittle said, by the way, looked like he was almost in too good a shape. Yeah.

22:24PFT Commenter:Yeah. He did say that.

22:26Big Cat:Fast.

22:27PFT Commenter:It's exactly what he said.

22:28Big Cat:Right before he tried to tackle Hank, and Hank hid behind me like the cowardly little mouse he is. George Kittle running at you is one of the scariest sights of all time. No, Kittle and - He is a monster horse.

22:41PFT Commenter:There are two guys in our life, and we've gotten to know a bunch of these guys. I'm very lucky. the two guys that I will always say that like when you are around them whether it be drinking or just being around them and you're worried about maybe a little bit of wrestling and horseplay that will get you very very injured is it's George Kittle and it's Kyle Long both those guys I'm just like I don't I'm always just kind of ready to be tackled and have like all my insides like ripped up I would say Vrabel too we have Vrabel oh I actually so I like broke my pinky like four months ago. No, it was probably like six months ago.

23:17PFT Commenter:Never got it really fixed because you can't really do anything. And it would hurt every time I'd shake someone's hand for about two months. In the last four months, I've been totally fine. Hurt again, Mike Vrabel handshake. Vrabel got you. That was it.

23:29Big Cat:Yeah. Just a good old Vrabel handshake will get you. He does the combo of the handshake and the pad on the back. Yeah. You can be wearing all the CopperFit bracelets you want. You're getting knocked off balance.

23:39PFT Commenter:All right. The last story I had was LeBron's getting a little desperate, don't you guys think? Did you guys see the latest? Kobe Altman, the president of the Cleveland Cavaliers, got a contract extension, and LeBron James quote tweeted it, and he said, here's what he said. Yes, sir. Congratulations to my brother, B. Weems. Super proud of you, man. Was this the praying? No. Praise? No, praise. praise emoji praise emoji praise emoji praise emoji praise emoji praise emoji praise emoji praying hands heart that's a lot that's a lot of emojis he wants to be a calf so bad yeah so bad we talked about it later but yeah but he but this this one is uh recently he's he's not gonna be a laker no no uh all right well let's get to the later let's get to everything else we got a great show we got we got shane victorino awesome interview make sure you tune into the part where Max has a great question for him.

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25:50Big Cat:I read a news article. I heard it first on this program.

25:54PFT Commenter:Okay. So as you know, first reported by PFT. Yes. Uno yesterday put out a statement. A rumor has come to our attention that there will be Uno tables on the casino floors in Las Vegas. Sounds wild, huh? We hate to be the bearers of bad news, but the casino floor isn't ready for us yet. We've told that while they do have tight security, it's not robust enough for Uno at this time. This isn't a reverse card. Well, we get this sorted out, and then they just promoted their Uno social club. So there's like an Uno social club that they're doing in New York, Chicago, Atlanta, and Austin, but not Vegas.

26:26Big Cat:So it sounds like the casino put out the statement too soon. Yeah. The casino that had planned this entire room of Uno, they didn't have final agreement with Uno. Yeah. They didn't clear it with Uno first. So PFT's right. So what's to stop them from just making a card game that's identical to Uno, but not called Uno? Nothing. I guess copyright. Maybe copyright. Maybe copyright. Duo. Duo. It also would take a long time. Yeah. Casino games are built. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Casino games are... I don't think Vegas would want that either.

27:03PFT Commenter:No, especially if you can't play for money. You're just going and playing Uno. That's the last thing you want to do. Yeah. Who do Uno here? That's what I would call it. Mm-hmm. All right, good hot seat. Thanks.

27:15Big Cat:You just attacked PFT, but that's fine. Yeah, that was just a rip, but that's fine. Nice hat, by the way. It was a report that was widely reported, and the casino. I blame the casino. Their PR department. Got to get these deals done before you tweet them out. Why are you wearing that hat? I don't know. It's a fish.

27:31PFT Commenter:It's a fish. It's a fish. What kind of fish is that? I don't know. Oh, great promo for the fishing contest coming out July 21st. Dolphin fish? Is this a dolphin fish? Might be. I don't know what type of fish it is. Where'd you buy the hat? I got it. I got it when I was fishing a couple weeks ago. You don't know what fish it is? It's a guy was literally handing him out to me and my buddies on the boat. Oh, it might be a mahi-mahi. Zach found it. That's a mahi-mahi. Sure is. Dolphin fish. That's dog. Yeah, yeah. Same thing. Max found it. Good job, Zach. Good job, Zach. Okay. McCool Throne's the Red Sox.

28:05People got mad at me for not bringing this up on Monday. The Trump Sox.

28:08Big Cat:What are they, 10-0? They're undefeated since meeting with President Trump. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, they won 10 straight games, going on the All-Star break. Coming to Chicago this weekend. Excited to see them.

28:20PFT Commenter:What's that? It's a podcast. I'm running. I'm taking a deep breath. I took a deep breath, and I was doing the running motion. I am – the bandwagon is running in front of me, and I'm getting pretty close to hopping on. Pretty close. We'll see how this weekend goes.

28:34Big Cat:Because, like, a month ago, you had jumped off the bandwagon. I know, but then they go on a 10-game winning streak. They traded Raphael. Like, that seemed to be a trade that didn't make sense at the time. Clearly, it's working. They're coming together as a team. You love to see that. They have some crazy walk-off wins. Coming to Chicago, I'm going to see them in person, up close and personal. It might be time.

28:56PFT Commenter:Okay. getting started playing well i think they have a tough remaining schedule i saw there was a i don't know if i have it i just saw the cubs have the easiest schedule remaining which made me feel good but they still need to get a pitcher we could have some there's some fun fun uh yeah people are saying that about i mean and that's where it's like you know they're saying that they're not gonna make any moves the deadline and just kind of sputter out but i'm i'm getting close to believing and hopping right on the bandwagon okay so remaining toughest remaining uh schedules uh The Red Sox have the third toughest.

29:29PFT Commenter:Scroll down. The Cubs have the 28th easiest or the third to last or the third easiest. Where are the Phillies and Mets? Phillies are right in the middle. Mets are seven toughest. It's some good baseball coming down the stretch, boys. Might be a collision course for the Mets, Phillies, Cubs. That'd be fun. That'd be great. This could be a very interesting October. Very contentious. are the pods. Padres are right there. The NL is pretty strong. The NL has the Mets, the Phillies, the Cubs, the Brewers, the Cardinals are not out of it. And then in the West, the Dodgers, Giants, and Padres. I mean, Dodgers are better, but there's a lot of good teams in the NL.

30:13PFT Commenter:So it's going to get spicy. Yeah. Okay, good job, Hank.

30:17Big Cat:Thanks. My hot seat is Max. Oh. I got Max on the hot seat. Yes. Because why do you have him on the hot seat? I was going to say PG. PG. PG. PG. PG actually reported PG to me. PG. Mm-hmm. PG. PG, Max. Yeah, no, he's probably going to go down.

30:36PFT Commenter:Wait, what happened to PG? PG. Paul George? Paul George. Playoff P. Playoff P. Podcast P. Podcast P. Preseason P. Preseason P has injured himself again in the preseason. How did he injure himself?

30:49Big Cat:It's PCL? Hurt his knee in a workout. and he's probably going to go down as the biggest bust in Philly history. But the good news is him and Andrew Byer. Wait, wait. Do you think he's going to go down as the biggest bust? Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons was an all-star. Markel Fultz? Markel Fultz was not an all-star. Not an all-star. He had a triple-double his rookie year. I remember that. That was cool. James Harden? James Harden had like 50 points in an elimination game. Who's the guy you clapped for? They won that game. Who's the guy you clapped for? It was Trey Turner. Trey Turner. Yeah, he's out of Bust.

31:24I also don't think that was an elimination game. I think that was maybe game one. But in that playoff series, yeah. No, he fell apart at the end.

31:29Big Cat:So, playoff P. Game seven. We know that. Playoff P is in the running right now for biggest busts. I mean. Can you do a Mount Rushmore of the biggest busts in Philadelphia history? Andrew Bynum is 1-1.

31:42Big Cat:Did he win a championship?

31:44PFT Commenter:With the Lakers, I believe. Yeah. Definitely. And then the Sixers traded a ton to get him. I don't think he played a single game. I think he got hurt and then never played a game. Okay. Playoff P. Playoff P. Markel Fultz. Markel Fultz. Yeah, Markel Fultz. But I feel like rookie now Markel Fultz is definitely up there. What's his name? Aguilar? Nelson Aguilar. But that was only because you could have got Justin Jefferson. Wait, no, that's Jalen Rager. Or Jalen Rager. Jalen Rager. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Jalen Rager. Jalen Rager definitely up there. Carson Wentz? No, Carson Wentz won a Super Bowl. Carson Wentz came a bust.

32:25Big Cat:He's also great because when you traded him, you got so much. Carson Wentz has a Super Bowl.

32:31PFT Commenter:Okay, you said won a Super Bowl. He said Carson Wentz won a Super Bowl. He was a part of a Super Bowl winning team. He was part of a Super Bowl roster. Yeah. That's true. That is a fact. And he would have been MVP if he didn't get hurt.

32:43Big Cat:When you get rid of Paul George, your team does better, right? We know that from recent history.

32:46PFT Commenter:Yeah, what are you going to do? What are the Sixers going to do? It's so crazy that the entire East has set up so perfectly for the Sixers to maybe be good, and then they have this. Yeah. I mean, apparently there's like no – all the Sixers heads are doing the same thing. He'll be ready by training camp. There's no ligament data. It was just a cleanup thing. How do you get hurt? It just says in a workout. That's why you never work out. Yeah. Fair. That's why you never work out. Yeah, no. Yeah. Bad. Really bad.

33:18Big Cat:Bad vibes going into the – I mean, the East is wide open right now. Yeah. Vijay Edgecombe had one – he played one game, had 28 points. We haven't seen him since. He just has the Sixers.

33:29PFT Commenter:There's something in that room. There's something in that room. Did you see the dunk that – The elephant? Noah Essenge, he got dunked on, and there was – in the summer league, Bulls first-round pick, it was maybe the worst graphic, like worst picture you could ever see. Yeah, the guy – He's like screaming for his life as he gets yammed on.

33:46Big Cat:The guy went full tomahawk. Yeah. The ball was beyond horizontal. It was crazy.

33:52PFT Commenter:Good search. He just spelled it E-S-E-N-G-A-Y. Yeah. It's good. It got me to where I needed to be. Yeah, it got you to. Look at that picture. That's a tough picture. Listen, that's a tough visual. He basically looks like he's being assaulted. Yeah. That's bad. It's a bad yam. Like, if he had a whistle, he would blow it there. It was a bad yam on the tracks. You have to. Or he's just having the nut of a lifetime. Yeah.

34:26Big Cat:Good Summer League talk. I do love Summer League. Oh, I had a question for you guys. Yeah. We need to establish this as a podcast. The more and more we get into it, the more it feels like LeBron James might not be a Laker next year. I would say he's not. Right? Playing a lot of golf now. Played golf again. A lot of golf. If he does go to the Cavs and the Cavs win in an East that is beyond depleted this year, we need to just already say that doesn't count.

34:53PFT Commenter:Yeah.

34:53Big Cat:Right? Yeah. Like you got the Pacers that are out of it. The Bucs are probably out of it. Yeah. I kind of want him to go back to Cleveland. I can rant. It'll be so fun to ramp it back up.

35:05PFT Commenter:Do you know what I'm wishing for? But Cleveland would be so dumb for them to trade for LeBron. The thing I'm rooting for, I saw a rumor that he's trying to maybe go to the Mavs to play with KD and AD. Or Kyrie and AD. Imagine if Nico traded Cooper flag for LeBron. That would be the funniest thing ever. That would be very funny. I don't wish that for Mavs fans, but that would be the funniest thing ever.

35:32Big Cat:Yeah, I just want to establish that. The East is down. Coward move if he goes to the Cavs Coward move if he wins a title with the Cavs Yeah, ahead of time Agreed, 100 % agree My cool throne is Teddy Bridgewater being a good guy So Teddy Bridgewater got suspended He's a high school football coach in Miami I think it's Northwestern, Northwestern High School in Miami Everybody loves Teddy Bridgewater Everyone that you've ever talked to that's been around him Loves the guy He has been suspended from his job as head coach Because he paid for Uber rides, meals recovery services for his players last year he asked fans to donate to help cover those expenses this year and then he self-reported those payments to miami of northwestern so apparently he paid out of pocket fourteen thousand dollars for training camp uh he bought set uh pride sets nine thousand dollars pre-game meals uh two thousand a week he paid for recovery for his players to the tune of a thousand dollars a week he bought ubers at seven hundred dollars a week and he bought the paint that goes on the field for$300 a week.

36:34Big Cat:Good guy. Good guy. And now why is this against the rules for a coach to do that?

36:39PFT Commenter:I don't know, but it is one of the most absurd controversies. I don't even want to call it a controversy because I think everyone has Teddy Bridgewater's side. Like, why can't someone try to better their community? Why is he? And Teddy Bridgewater even said, I'm not an employee, so they can't suspend me. He volunteered.

36:56Big Cat:Yeah. So this is all through the goodness of his heart that he did this. But I think now, throughout the years, we've been complaining to the NCAA, you've got to pay the players. Yep. Take it easy on the players. We might have to just switch up to high school football now. You've got to pay the players. You've got to pay the players. You've got to pay the players. Pay these guys. I like that. They're doing Netflix documentaries. They're getting thousands of views on Instagram, on their highlight reels. Pay the players. Pay the players. Pay the high school players. Teddy Bridgewater, good guy, though.

37:26Big Cat:Pay the AU players. Yeah, pay. Listen, pay babies. T-ball.

37:30PFT Commenter:Babies should get paid. Absolutely. Okay. My hot seat is Conor McGregor. What would happen? He has his penis all over the Internet because he sent a unsolicited dick pic to Azalea Banks. Couple of them. Couple of them, which, by the way, I only saw the blurred out version until Jerry O 'Connell accidentally sent me and PFT a full Conor McGregor nude last night out of nowhere. Yep. And just said, sorry, wrong text. I don't think it was wrong. I think he was trying to get us. He was trying to get us with Conor McGregor's penis. Herbert. Azalea Banks, what is she known for? This. Stuff like this.

38:12PFT Commenter:Okay, so he really kicked the hornet's nest here.

38:15Big Cat:Yeah, I think that Azealia Banks would be the last person on planet Earth that you should send a dick picture to.

38:20PFT Commenter:And Conor McGregor was like, fuck it, I'm Conor McGregor. Maybe he was trying to get his dick out. He might be. That was like, because you can't leak it yourself. So he was just doing this on purpose to be like, I want to just let everyone know that there's my penis.

38:33Big Cat:Yeah, that's not a bad thought because if you send Azealia Banks, as far as I can tell, she just lives to stir shit up online now. Okay. That's what she does. And Conor McGregor said it unsolicited. Unsolicited. So he might have just been expecting for this to happen. Conor McGregor, I'm starting to think he might not be a good guy.

38:49PFT Commenter:Maybe not. There's a lot of stuff going on. He had a weight on one of his pictures? A weight on his penis? Yeah, it was training. Yeah. He was doing some training.

38:58Big Cat:Does that work? Was it a weight or was it? I thought it was. It looked like he was doing some curls, if you know what I'm saying. What do you got? I thought it was like a circumcision thing. Huh? Foreskin? Like it pulled it back. Oh, I don't know. Wait, so he's got a piece of equipment that he uses on his hog? That's what it looked like. Like a cock ring? Yeah, it looked like it pulled everything back, kind of like a hair tie for your cock.

39:23PFT Commenter:It's hard to find the dick pic. I was trying to find it, and then Jerry helped me. I can't find it. Just text Jerry.

39:29Big Cat:He'll send it to you. Is that a common thing? I don't know. I'm not. Uncircumcised guys, they have a special ring they put on for sending dick pics? I'm circumcised, so I really don't know, but that's our first glance. That's what it looked like. I was confused at the difference in the two pictures, but the second one you could see. Also, Cale Sonnen. Cale Sonnen, yeah. I've heard it pronounced both ways. Oh, okay. Which way have you heard, Hank? I've heard Chale. Chale.

39:56PFT Commenter:Well, I'm a phonetic guy. Yeah. Yeah. That H has to do something. You can't just have a no-show job H out there. So he hopped online yesterday. That probably means it's Cale. Yeah, probably, but I'm saying I respect the H.

40:09Big Cat:Yeah, me too. So he said yesterday, I can't stop staring at Conor McGregor's dick. I can't stop. I've stared at this dick for the last two hours. Wow.

40:17PFT Commenter:He could be up for a takey coming Friday. He had a busy day. Yeah, he did. All right, my cool throne is Zach. It is the summer of Zach. Zach, maybe when we do Guys on Chicks, he'll give us an update whether he's going on a date or not. But, Zach, I had a friend of ours hit me up and was like, hey, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, ever heard of him? would like to send something to the office. And I said, well, I know that we have one massive Bucs fan here at Barstool Sports, and his name is Zach. Can't think of another. Look at this. They sent you a box. You want to open it on here. Bring it back to the.

40:58PFT Commenter:Oh, is that a weight at the bottom of it? Yeah, there's a weight at the bottom. We're back to Conor McGregor's penis. I didn't see that part. Zach, go back in there and open it up. Let's see what's in there. Cool throw on Zach. Yeah, there's a weight. He was doing weightlifting. I did not see. I think it's kegels is the thing. I didn't look too long, but I did. I tried to do a kegel once. You just squeeze. Yeah, and I was just like, not for it. I don't think there's weights involved, though. It was one of those things that like, what's more embarrassing, doing kegels or coming too fast?

41:30Big Cat:Well, it's like if you do kegels. If you do kegels, maybe you'll increase your time from 30 seconds to 45 seconds.

41:35PFT Commenter:Right, and so I made the executive decision right away. it's like the more embarrassing thing here is having people be like hey you do kegels yeah rather just stay the status quo all right zach what is in the box what's in the box what's in the box oh we got 50 seasons on the front okay so this is i believe new uniforms i think i got a letter yeah okay we want to include you a special preview of the newest piece of

42:00Big Cat:buccaneers history inside this box is an early look at the modern nod to the original 1976 jersey that helped define the start of the Buccaneers football. This reimagined piece of our history is more than just a throwback. It is a celebration of where we've been and how far we have come. We're excited to share it with you ahead of the official reveal. Out of respect for the full unveiling, we kindly ask you to hold off on sharing or posting anything from this package until 1030 Eastern on Tuesday, July 15th. You're good. Oh, we're good. Yeah. Thanks for being a part of this moment with us. And here's to the next 50 seasons of Buccaneers football.

42:33Big Cat:Wow. Sincerely your friends in Buccaneers.

42:37PFT Commenter:Wow. Love that. I can keep this? Yeah. Show the jersey. Show it to us. It looks so sick. Oh, wow. It's so sick. Oh, wow. Oh, come on. Come on. That thing is awesome. That's heat. We've got two of them. There's another one if somebody wants a jersey. I think that one was for Stephen Chang. I'll take it. I asked. We've got to get this to Stephen. Yeah, I'll give it to Stephen. I'll give it to him.

43:03Big Cat:This is so sick. Yeah. Oh, listen. I know you guys were ranking jerseys the other day. Yeah. And this has to get... We got to go up the ladder. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, come on. That's high.

43:11PFT Commenter:Come on. Is that your catchphrase? It just felt right when I pulled him out.

43:16Big Cat:I like the way you say it. I appreciate you guys for this jersey. And thank you to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And thank you, Big Cat. And thank you, 50. Yes. And Max and No Memes.

43:25PFT Commenter:And thank you, Sarah Walsh. Our good friend.

43:27Big Cat:Shout out to Sarah Walsh for real. Yeah. Yes. Big Sarah.

43:30PFT Commenter:Yeah.

43:31Big Cat:This is sick.

43:34PFT Commenter:I love it Come on Alright put it on Put it on and do your hot seat cool throne It's the Baker jersey Oh those are so clean Those are auto bets We gotta bet them when they wear those No I'm gonna give the other one to Che We gotta give the other one to Che He'll be so mad if he doesn't Oh Crispy Those are crispy

44:02PFT Commenter:Oh, come on. Yeah, these are sick. Yeah, you look great. Go Bucs. Yeah, take off the tag. You look like a poser. There you go. All right, Zach, your hot seat cool drum.

44:17Big Cat:Yes, sir. I got one for you. So, hot seat, you guys are competing in a home run derby today. I did enjoy the last home run derby, and Max went 113 for 190. So I would like to – Max is my hot seat today because I would like to see Max go yard again.

44:32PFT Commenter:Okay. All right. Okay. That's going to be – so obviously the start of the show, we'll probably talk about it, but do we want to do predictions that will look stupid afterwards? Team Max versus Team Hank.

44:42Big Cat:I think Hank drafted a great team. There was no draft. Good picks, Hank. Hank, I am – Hank's team looks pretty good. Hank's team looks pretty diesel. Last year, I think I went nine for ten three or four times. I just want 10 for 10 once. That's my personal goal.

45:00PFT Commenter:Yeah, once you find it, you're lethal. Last year I also tore my bicep and was on the DL for like three weeks. That cannot happen. I forgot you tore your bicep. It can't happen this year. How did you tear your bicep? From taking a bunch of swings. It hurt really bad like halfway through, but I found it, and I got really competitive and didn't care about the injury. Huge mistake. So you're caring about injuries? Yes. Okay, fair. I also feel like tearing your bicep from swinging is like... Kind of soft. Soft. Yeah, very soft. Like people take that many swings. There also may have been like a workout suit involved that might have like fucked up my bicep beforehand, but that's all right.

45:45Big Cat:All right, your cool throw. You did hit roughly 85 home runs last year, Hank.

45:49PFT Commenter:Roughly or exactly?

45:50Big Cat:I think it's... I'm exact. I skipped all the way to the end of the video to get the graphic. I may be like one homer off. Okay. That sounds good. Still a strong performance, though. Yeah. All right. I do have a quick cool throw. Are you guys familiar with Los Polos TV? Yes. Hank, that's sick. So Los Polos is a streamer, a YouTube video. So he is what you would call, anybody familiar with NBA 2K? Yes. Los Polos would be Mount Rush, all-time NBA 2K player online. Great Fortnite player, too. Fantastic at Fortnite as well. Okay. Okay. So he is a cool throne today because Los Polos on record, big Drake fan.

46:33Big Cat:Historically massive Drake fan. And this last weekend at the Wireless Festival in London, he was not only shouted out on stage, but he was also main feed Instagram posted. I loved seeing this for him. I knew it was a huge moment. And as someone who grew up watching Los Polos TV, I love this for him. Okay.

46:49PFT Commenter:Good for him. Cool throne. Okay. Shout out Los Polos. I love this because when Zach does these, and I have no idea what they are, usually the account will be like thanks for the shout out, pardon my take that's just Joey thanks for the shout out, pardon my take and I'll look at the person and they have 10 million followers wow that was actually good work Zach

47:12Big Cat:so Drake's his boy now they look pretty bro'd up in the photo they do look bro'd up we talked about Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard it's kind of like the Rizzler and then Los Polos would be the next iteration and then Los Polos' dad would be Charizard. The adult version of the Rizzler. Yeah. Got it. AJ. Big Justice, you mean.

47:37PFT Commenter:No, the Rizzler. No, but the adult version of the Rizzler is Big Justice. No. What are you talking about? What? It's WAD. So Los Polos TV's dad is also like a guy? Yeah, they stream together. He's hilarious. Oh, yeah, they look identical. Those are the same guy. The exact same guy. His dad has some fucking hilarious, hilarious clips Wad is the man So it's Dave Portnoy and Mr. Portnoy? Yeah, I guess, yeah Okay It's gonna be crazy when Zach's a bigger streamer than all these guys Yeah, crazy It's gonna be crazy

48:07Big Cat:Not a chance Los Polos is gonna Hall of Fame, all-time, stamp Oh yeah, Los Polos is the guy Wait, how long have you been watching Los Polos? Many and many a year Okay What's your favorite moment from Los Polos? Anything 2K related Also, when it's a running thing, he reads threats from the chat, and they're always hilarious.

48:25PFT Commenter:He reads threats?

48:27Big Cat:Yes.

48:28PFT Commenter:Okay. Wait, so he was just nasty at 2K?

48:32Big Cat:Yeah, he's great at the game, and also, like, he just builds a sense of, like, you're playing a game, you're also watching Lowe's play the game. It's like a community. Yeah, almost like you're hanging out.

48:40PFT Commenter:Yeah, I love that. Love that. Okay, good hot seat, cool throne, everyone. Let's do our Mount Rushmore. Stella Blue Coffee ready to drink can lattes are officially available nationwide at Target. That's right. Whether you're making a Target run for toothpaste, paper towels, or somehow spending$200 on things you didn't know you needed, stop by the coffee section and see why everyone is turning to Stella Blue. The cans are made with 100 % Colombian coffee, real dairy, real sugar, and contain 190 milligrams of caffeine. They've got dessert-level flavor with coffee-level function. you can choose from espresso sweet cream or espresso cafe mocha.

49:18PFT Commenter:And once you try them, you'll understand why they're the best canned lattes out there. Here's the best part. A hundred percent of proceeds will go toward our, we brew to rescue mission in which we're funding the adoption of 1000 pets across the country. Grab a Stella blue at target, taste the difference and make a difference. Stella blue coffee. Okay. Mount Rushmore time. Uh, standings. What are the standings? I forget. so give it to us 13 12 11 13 12 11 oh shit i just saw memes sent us conor mcgregor's cock 13 12 11 okay 13 max and memes 12 pft hank 11 big head anyone's game our first win uh all right today we're doing the mount rushmore of things people don't care about is that correctly phrased Stuff no one cares about Stuff no one cares about Okay who is up first Is it us That'd be Big Cat and Zach Okay Then me and Max are second And then It's going counter clock Well no we're all screwed up on this We're all screwed up on this By the way I just want to say a caveat before I think it's very cool to care about things This is not an indictment on caring Caring is cool Everyone has things they love and care about But this is just stuff people don't care about Okay Okay, the first pick we will take your fantasy team.

50:45PFT Commenter:Don't care about your fantasy team. It's a good pick. I don't know how the phrasing, so is it going to say your fantasy team? Yeah, I think all of it is going to be like your. Yes, I think. Yeah. Okay. Or is it someone else's? Or fantasy team. I guess, yeah. I think it has to be your. I think it's your fantasy team. Yeah, I think it's yours. I think your has to be. I think we can just do that for most of them. Most of them, yeah. Okay. What are you thinking? Did you guys have that on your list? Yeah. We did? Yeah. I think the first couple are on everyone's list. We're going to go your dreams.

51:12Big Cat:Okay. Good one. Good one. All right, so we're going to double up. We have two here. Yeah, we're going to double up. Hank, I think we go number three and then number two. I trust you wholeheartedly. Okay. Your parlay. Had it. Going to take that, and then on the way back, COVID. Had it. No one cares about it anymore. Yep. That's a good one. That's true. I have. Imagine all the people I'm going to I'm going to accept a veto on this next pick Alright, veto

51:44PFT Commenter:Auto veto? No, give it to us It's just that these two things are so similar That I want That I understand, but they're, whatever I will say your dog Slash child photos No, it's gotta be one or the other Okay, I will take They're not that similar No, they're pretty much the same thing Yeah. Yeah. One's a dog. But it's like the same human.

52:10Big Cat:You have a dog. It's the exact same thing, raising a puppy as it is a baby. No, but it's the picture of like, whatever. I will take your child's photos. Okay. Okay. Okay. It seems a little cold-hearted. Yeah. But that, I mean, that's the human. Max hates kids. They brought a human being into this world that's like the hardest thing someone can do. Okay. That's my pick. That's pretty disrespectful to your mom. That's my pick. That is very disrespectful to your mom. Like if your mom posts on Facebook, you're like, Mom, why are you posting this bullshit? It's actually disrespectful to all moms. Yeah.

52:41Mm-hmm.

52:41Big Cat:Mm-hmm. Sounds like you don't. Dogs, on the other hand. Yeah. Fair point.

52:47PFT Commenter:What do we do here, Zach?

52:51Big Cat:Do you like eight? Or is eight not strong enough? We do have some other hitters, maybe.

52:57PFT Commenter:Yeah. We do have some hitters. We have a couple hitters.

53:05PFT Commenter:uh man this is tough this is tough this is where it gets tough this is where it gets tough that one was taken i think one two that one is very still have your one one yeah we still do well we we didn't order it exactly the right way but uh i do think that one is i i i think i think one in four one four so yeah okay all right so this is a little different than the kids photos uh don't care about your kids uh sports accomplishments like when people are like oh my kid did awesome in you know t-ball or like this like i know when i say it to someone there i'm like this is the most boring thing i could possibly tell someone yeah it's participation trophy right right so until they're like 13 or 14 it's used sports like if they're in high school like that could be something but yeah when you're like yeah my kid had a double in t-ball

53:55Big Cat:don't fucking care i would even say that when archie manning talks about his children i tune

53:58PFT Commenter:out yeah quit bragging on your kids yeah um and then uh don't care about your opinion on politics just don't care when someone gives shares their opinion on politics do not care yeah but what if they can shape your opinion i don't care when people when someone shares

54:16Big Cat:their opinion on politics i do not care sometimes it's interesting if it's a wild celebrity and they go in a direction that you did not think that they were going to go yeah then i'm like oh Okay. Okay. No, yeah, athletes, when they do it, it's like... Yeah. I like watching you hit bombs.

54:31PFT Commenter:Right. Right. I don't care. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, yeah. It's a good pick. So it could be celebrities' opinions on politics, specifically. Because I do not care. Yeah. At all. Athletes, you do? So, I mean, celebrities and athletes are the same thing. What, do you want me to put athletes slash celebrities? No. Celebrities, it's fine. Okay. Okay. We're going to go with your concert videos. Yeah, that's a good one. Really good one. And everyone takes it to that one. It's like, is there anything quicker that you scroll upon on Instagram that it's like someone putting their entire concert? And it's like, oh, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap.

55:07Don't care about this at all. Yeah.

55:09Big Cat:The upload like an hour and 20 minutes to YouTube from the shittiest angle with the worst audio. Good pick. Good pick. Okay, so it's on us, Hank. I like six a lot. I know you love six. Do it. You love six. But you can do whatever you want first. Whether or not you're drunk at a funeral. I think five is good, too. Yeah, your ball. Oh, who's making the picks? This is me. All right, so I'm going to go with Hank's pick. Your workout pictures.

55:40PFT Commenter:Okay. Yeah. That's a good one. Unless they're hot. If it's a hot chick. I'm just throwing that out there. That's not a bad point. Totally different. That's not a bad point. The hot chick working out is I do care. What about a guy when they're like. But I'm saying a hot chick working out, I care. That's what I told Hank.

55:56Big Cat:Yeah. That's also the highest percentage of workout photos you'll see is attractive women. Yeah, true. And then for the last one, we're going to go soccer. No one cares about soccer. Soccer as a whole. Soccer. The sport of soccer. Soccer. Okay. I think it's going to play well nicely on the graphic. Okay. It's the biggest sport in the world. Okay. Okay. Memes and I just stumbled upon one that I thought was our, I realized it has not been taken yet. Your golf round. Oh, yeah. Hank vetoed that. Yeah. Did you want to say that? No, Hank made a good point, which is that golfers do care about your golf round.

56:30Big Cat:But no one, no one. I care. Hank does care. But if it's someone you know and it's a course you've played, I'm all ears. They're too, like, specific, though. Yeah. And, like, if someone has a great round. Don't care. Oh, I'm smashing the heart every time. Dialed. I think they care to the extent that if they've also played that course, they can then be like, yeah, well, when I was on that course, this is what I did. Yeah. But if you, like, see someone and they're like, oh, what did you do today? They're like, oh, I golfed. I had a birdie on 15 to get me. I'm like, don't care. Slotted.

57:10PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right. Zach, what do we do? Because I think we can't pick the thing we wanted to pick. You don't think we can pick 21? It was a stronger pick than what they picked, but should we say it?

57:21Big Cat:I just think those two things are vastly different. I do. One's an organization and one is a sport.

57:25PFT Commenter:Okay, we were going to pick the MLS specifically, but I don't know if that gets vetoed. We thought a lot of people – It is soccer. But a lot of people care about soccer. It is soccer. No one cares about the MLS. Biggest sport in the world. Not even the MLS care. Not even the players. The players care about the MLS. No one really cares about soccer, though. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I think people do care about soccer. I think no one cares about the MOS. No one cares about soccer. I mean, there's definitely a lot of people that care about soccer. No one that matters cares about soccer. We'll do something different.

57:53PFT Commenter:What about 13? What are you feeling about 13? That's kind of in the mood these days. Getting up on the time. Can't hear you, Zach.

58:01Big Cat:I like 13. Do you think, one quick glance at our list, do you think there's anything stronger?

58:07PFT Commenter:I think 17. Yeah, ooh. Nine. You're also strong. What about nine, Zach? Stop it. That's not right, guys. 23. Yeah, let's do 17. Let's rip 17. No, wait, wait.

58:20Big Cat:Hold on. You're right. 13 is good.

58:22PFT Commenter:No, I like 17. Let's go. Stay strong. Don't break. 13 is strong, though, Zach. Stay strong, don't break. Stay strong, don't break. Stay strong, don't break. NBA All-Star game. Do not care. Do not care at all. Fun to complain about. Yeah, but it's just do not care at all. Yeah. No one cares. It's a good pick. It's good. 13 was your marathon training. I think the Pro Bowl is a stronger pick than the NBA. Marathon training is probably better. I don't even think anyone watches the Pro Bowl. But exactly. But I mean, the NBA All-Star game gets talked about, and I don't care. I forgot that the Pro Bowl happened last year.

58:53The fact that people talk about it means that people care more about that than the Pro Bowl. I'm happy you didn't pick marathon training. That's probably a better version of your workout pictures.

59:02PFT Commenter:Yeah. Probably. All right, so we fucked up, Zach. Fuck that up. No, we stayed strong. Marathon training is a good one. Great one

59:12Big Cat:They're just saying that to say it Don't let them get to you No I'm not MLS would have been way better than soccer I'm not even trolling Do you agree with that? Dude no one cares about soccer MLS is so different No one cares about things in the world Zach do you agree MLS would have been a great answer No MLS is a way better pick Name one soccer player Chris John Ronaldo Messi I'll give you this It's a better pick Cole Palmer But soccer looks way better Wait a minute what did you just say? Cole Palmer Hold on you just said Lionel Messi though Messi also plays for the MLS Shit, true, good point Your argument was MLS is better Messi vacations at the MLS His legacy was not set there That's true, facts

59:50PFT Commenter:Picks on other grown men in the MLS I'm on your side, but that was a bad argument Zach had your feelings He doesn't care about other people's feelings Memes had a couple of bangers That are just I had your day Oh, that's a good one Zach also had one that I was... That's just such a meme to answer. It is true. It's true. Zach had movies. He doesn't care about movies. Okay. Just in general. He said something similar. He was like the movie that you saw, but I was like, that's actually one thing I do care about. Kind of care about. Because if you saw a good movie and I respect your opinion, I will want to watch that movie.

1:00:30Big Cat:Or if I was going to go see it and it's just bad. I want to know about... I won't go see it. Would the Dallas Cowboys have played on the graphic? I mean the numbers say that people care about That was my Numbers are irrelevant in this discussion

1:00:43PFT Commenter:Some big picture ones I had the national debt Yeah I had the deficit Don't care global warming don't care Expensive wines Don't care SNL just isn't an entity People always complain about it I don't care They complain about who's hosting Or it's too liberal or it's too this or that It's not funny anymore I'm like I don't care I don't really care

1:01:07Big Cat:on the list oh I care professional boxing one fight a year I will care about one fight a year but I don't really care

1:01:14PFT Commenter:a couple tough ones that I wanted to throw on there because I personally don't care but I think a lot of people do care about it is celebrity couples and the royal family yeah don't care yeah but that is someone that like a lot of people care about um oh how do we miss your diet that would have been a strong pick people telling you about your diet don't care no I care

1:01:37Big Cat:Max you don't care No I don't You're in charge of my nutrition And you've done jack shit

1:01:42PFT Commenter:How much sleep you got Yeah people being like Oh I didn't get enough sleep Or I got so much sleep The one time you got really drunk in college Yeah I had your You sports accomplishments Like not your kids Like you saying like Oh I hit a home run in Little League Or Shane Victorino We're college athletes You guys are just making fun of me Hank put your Spotify wrapped. I feel like I care about that. Yeah. I care. Do you? Yeah, because it shows our fans, the AWLs. Wow, Hank. I'm in for music, but yeah, I guess. Hank just hates Spotify.

1:02:18Big Cat:We had Macklemore. Yeah. Okay. I agree with that. I had what you're doing at work. Don't care. Yeah. Your business idea. Unless it's really good.

1:02:29PFT Commenter:Unless you're on cocaine, then I do care. Movie script. Yeah. Mid-range game. That was a good one, PFT. Mid-range game. Pictures of your food. Yep. Don't care. Sometimes I care. Sometimes I'm like, wow, that looks really good. Where was that? But that's because I'm bad. See, that's where it's like, for people that play golf, it's just you for food. Yeah. Everyone eats food. But no one. Name me someone who doesn't eat food. Most people are like, oh, name me someone who doesn't eat food. I'll name you plenty of people who don't golf. Most people don't care about other people's food. You're like, oh.

1:02:59Most people eat. All people eat. Yeah. Not all people play golf.

1:03:03PFT Commenter:All people eat. Fact. I got one that actually when we decided to do this topic, it was I think the first thing that popped in my head. And it doesn't probably work, but it works for me personally. I don't care about crosswalks. Okay. At all. Big J guy. I just don't care. Like they tell me where I got to walk. I'm going to walk where I want to walk. I don't care. Especially like New York City. I don't think I ever walked in a crosswalk. No, yeah. I'm a J guy. You're just fucking going right across the street. Just don't care. They're softly telling me where to walk, and I'm saying, no, I'm not going to do that.

1:03:35PFT Commenter:Don't care. We had Katy Perry. Yeah. Ah, I still care about her. The fish that you caught? Cannons. Fish that you caught? Yeah. Fish that you caught's a good one. Fish that you caught's a good one.

1:03:47Big Cat:That would have been tough while Hank is wearing a fish hat. Yeah. Don't care about washing jeans? Nope. That's a good one.

1:03:54PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:03:54Big Cat:Spam callers? Or like the people who stand?

1:03:56PFT Commenter:Oh, physical mail. Physical mail? Do not care. There, that's a great answer. Should have done that.

1:04:01Big Cat:That's a great answer. The male. Your allergies? Don't care. Don't care. The Jeffrey Epstein list? Who's Jeffrey Epstein? Who, yeah. People are still on that?

1:04:09PFT Commenter:No one talks about that. People still care about that? There is a lot. Moved on. Yeah, come on. Your pregnancy post on Facebook? Also, your engagement post? Yeah, that's kind of nice. Nah. Those are two nice things. I like knowing who's knocked up. Show me when there's a baby. Billboards? I want to see an actual baby. Okay, that's fair.

1:04:28Big Cat:Billboards? Yeah, you said billboards. Billboards is good. Commercials on gas pumps.

1:04:34PFT Commenter:Oh, yes. Don't care. Commercials in cabs. Commercials and cabs, yep.

1:04:41Big Cat:The people who stand outside of stores that try to sell you something? Yeah. There's a ton in Chicago. Yeah. Kickers?

1:04:50PFT Commenter:That's the one that matters a lot. You care a lot about them. You care a lot about them. Interior offensive linemen? Yep. Hank said your new haircut? Yeah. I'd say that's fair. I was just trying to think. go i was getting the mindset of like when i go on instagram and people post x like when am i like this is the dumbest thing oh your vacation yeah don't care no don't care about the weather on your vacation specifically when people come back and they're like oh the weather was incredible don't care your commute do not care someone shares their commute like oh it's terrible getting in today it's like all right cool i hope there's so many awls who are listening to this and they just like go and delete their entire instagram story because they're like fuck nobody cares about what

1:05:36Big Cat:I just what I what I just posted oh it's a golf round there's a lot of NBA all-star game recap there's a lot of stuff that you do care about yeah everybody posts but just we all don't like

1:05:47PFT Commenter:when other people do it correct yeah but yeah I mean like I said it's cool to care this isn't an indictment on caring this is just stuff that I think we all can agree don't really care yeah like I well yeah I still post all these things I just don't know what other people do yeah but I I think it's also good to have self-awareness. Oh, yeah. Like, when I do say, like, oh, my son had a double in T-Ball, I'm like, I wish I could stop this story right now and not say it. Like, this is stupid. I shouldn't be sharing this. Or, like, when you talk about your golf round. Yeah. The national. Well, you asked me.

1:06:21I do not bring it up unprompted.

1:06:23Big Cat:Well, we talk about our days on this podcast. Yeah. And our children. It's tough to avoid. And I have 18.

1:06:29PFT Commenter:Your children is 18. Memes doesn't care about your day.

1:06:34Big Cat:you just don't i like that memes that's brutal honesty memes only cares about hate

1:06:39PFT Commenter:yeah and memes and memes and memes yeah uh okay let's do uh our interviews we got the shanes we got shane victorino awesome interview with him also uh all-time max moment and shane bacon talking about the open championship uh pfc you got a couple ads before we do that yes before we get into the chains. Hey, Illinois, Stelbleu Coffee's new canned lattes are here and in a store near you. Crafted with 100 % Colombian coffee, each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors, espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream. Whether you're braving your morning commute or chasing your pup, Stelbleu cans are for those always on the go and for those who care.

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1:08:31Okay.

1:08:32PFT Commenter:We now welcome on a very, very special guest, two-time world series champion, the flying Hawaiian, Shane Victorino. I'll start with a really stupid question. How much better does two-time world series champion sound than one time? That's got to be like, cause you got the second at the end of your career. That's nice that people always have to introduce you as two-time World Series champion. It's nice to get one, but you're right, to get two, it's absolutely amazing. I mean, to hear it, you know, I always tell people growing up just to, you know, tell yourself that to be a one-time world champion was good enough, but to be two, it's pretty fun.

1:09:03PFT Commenter:Do you ever bust out the rings? Never. Why? Because I honestly tell you, if I got to wear my ring, then I didn't do enough on a baseball field. What do you mean? Meaning like you are the ring. Yeah. I mean, I got to tell myself, like if I have to, and not in a negative way and I always tell people it's it's it's more of a I call it the fact that if you understand that I was a world series champion I was a big part of you know those championships that hopefully I won't have to wear my ring to show my you know kind of a thing but you're right as far as where everywhere I go and everybody hears that everybody wants to see them everybody wants to touch them I'm like the question is the year where I'm like honestly I don't really like to and again I don't want to attract the attention I mean honestly think about me walking in a room anywhere I go with a big old fat ringer but it's gonna be like kind of a flex

1:09:45Big Cat:I think it's like yeah you know I don't know if you never won one yeah then you say I would wear

1:09:50PFT Commenter:that all the time yeah and then you I guess I'm being a little you know I think this is the difference between like athletes and regular guys because I dream of like any championship ring I would wear it all the time yeah I get it we got a championship ring for our lacrosse team that we

1:10:04Big Cat:own actually we wear that all the time we actually lost it do you know where your rings are I do know okay yes they're definitely tucked away nicely because maybe you should say you don't

1:10:13PFT Commenter:know that would even be more of a flex yeah right I sold them I don't know where they are like I can't find them I got so many trophies yeah it's sad to see when you do hear people selling them like you said you know but I know so you said before we started taping you were very lucky

1:10:27Big Cat:you got to play in two great sports towns so what what is the better sports town Philly or Anaheim you tell me no you know it's I tell people it's it's two unbelievable fan bases that have a love and a passion for their sports and well I separate the two and how I separate the two is you know and then they're two different championships one like you said was early in my career I was a young kid later on was at the back end but what separates the two for me was I I there's not many championships in the city of Philadelphia. And people don't realize that. And people don't talk about that all the time.

1:11:03People think that Philadelphia, there's a plethora of trophies or championships in that city. So I take that a little bit more on that side because there's not many. Like the game of baseball, we lost over 10 ,000 games. I remember I was a part of it and it's still there. And you look and go, 10 ,000 games? We've been around forever. There was one championship. And then we became the second. And so those kind of things are what makes, I think, Philadelphia a little bit more. I mean, you think about it. Tom Brady won what? Seven. And then you got the Celtics have won. And then, you know, they won in four, seven.

1:11:32We won in 13, 18. I mean, that's a lot of championships in just the last 20 years in a city. So I always tell people that's what makes Philadelphia to me a little bit more special. But, I mean, as far as going back to the fan bases, man, to win in those kind of cities.

1:11:46Big Cat:Special. I think with Philly, it's that they let you know when they win one. So, yeah, they've got a handful of rings, right? But they let you know for years and years. Like, hey, you remember that team? It kind of becomes more of a focus, more level. Well, because you don't have many. That's why I'm saying it's hard to go and say in Boston, well, oh, shit, Brady's got seven. You know, the Celtics got how many in each sport? So that's what I think. That's, again, going back to that touching that point, is that that's what is where I feel like they come egotistic about it because they don't have many.

1:12:13If you do have a lot, you act a little differently. I'm not saying you call it take it for granted, but if you know that in every major sport you've got a chance to win a championship in the city of Boston, it's pretty different, you know?

1:12:24PFT Commenter:Have you gone back to both cities, and can you feel the difference? Like in that Philly, you know, there's Shane Victorino. Well, I spent eight years there, and I spent two and a half in Boston. So that's another thing I tell people. So in regards to that, yes. And then, you know, Boston was what made Boston special, was the fact that the bombings and the magnitude of what had happened at the beginning of the year and how we were able to transcend that, like the city and bring the joy and the pride. That was what was cool about, you know, I get to touch on it, that second championship was that big factor.

1:12:53So, I mean, but as I said, both great, unbelievable fan bases.

1:12:56Big Cat:This is our fucking team. That was a good one. That was poppy, yes. Can you answer your question? Because I've always wondered this about David Ortiz. Whenever he'd hit a triple, it'd be like once every two years, he'd get really excited for some reason. Do you know why he would get so excited by hitting a triple? Because it was always about his speed, bro. You know, I mean, he wasn't very fast, so to be able to go from first to third, it's a big moment. And a lot of times if he's hitting it that far, it's usually in the seat. So he doesn't, you know, but I mean. I heard there's something else that he got excited about.

1:13:21Oh, maybe I didn't know that one.

1:13:23Big Cat:He had maybe a little secret deal at home. At home, yeah. You get a triple, you get. Oh, wow, man. I didn't know that. Well, damn, man. Good for him.

1:13:32PFT Commenter:Wait, speaking of speed, you ran a 4.3 in high school? I did. I was pretty fast. That's wide receiver speed. That's insane. But I also was 5 '9 and 150 pounds. Yeah, but that's insane speed. No, I had. I mean, but again, at the end of the day, that was my game in the big leagues. You know, I tell people I wasn't a baseball player. Like, I had God-given speed through all the sports that I played through growing up, and that was my 1-2. And then even in baseball, that became the, you know, the tool that carried me to the sport. But yeah, I mean, could I have, I mean, I loved, I thought I was going to be the next, you know, I love soccer.

1:14:03I don't know if you guys knew that, but soccer was my favorite sport. I thought I was going to be the next Pele. And, you know, being as fast as I was, it was so much fun playing soccer. Just running by everyone. You want to go over there? I want to push it five feet and I'm going to run by you. And that was cool.

1:14:14PFT Commenter:But so, so rank your, your sports, what you were best at. Obviously baseball. Soccer was my best. Okay. Soccer was your best. Soccer was my number one. That's such an awesome flex. Soccer was number one. And like I said, I wanted to be Pele. I grew up wanting to be like Pele. I wanted to be set out. But in 99, you know, there was really nothing. And my dad was like, well, you can go overseas. I was like, I don't want to go overseas. Football, my dad was like, you're 5 '9". So that became my second sport because I wanted – I finally got to play it, put on the helmets, the flex. You can't catch me.

1:14:41It's like a cat and mouse on a football field. So I love football. And then baseball was like the fourth because it was the hardest.

1:14:48PFT Commenter:So it was three. Three was track. Wait, was baseball your worst sport? Well, it wasn't the worst. It was the hardest. So I didn't like it. But again, having a father that sat me down, my senior year, he goes, okay, son, you're small. Soccer's not an option. You don't want to run for a living. Well, if you get drafted, maybe baseball becomes, you know, maybe it's an opportunity there. Yeah. And that's how it played out, honestly. That's crazy. Baseball's hard. I mean, we were touching upon it earlier, you know, before we got him on. It's like baseball's the hardest thing to do in the world. I mean, I don't care.

1:15:15Golf's hard. Listen, you can play golf. An 80-year-old man can play golf. a seven-year-old kicking, but if I tell, you know, hey, let's go down to the park and let me throw a 70-mile-an-hour, 80-mile-an-hour fastball at you, I'll tell the first one at your head. That's part of the game, so, and you'll never want to step back in, so that's the hardest, so that's why I didn't play it growing up, you know, like, I mean, I played it, but it wasn't like, yeah, I want to go play baseball every day.

1:15:36PFT Commenter:That's crazy. What would, do you remember, like, your worst slump in the big leagues and what you did to get out of it? Because you're right, like, the baseball, and we've talked to a lot of baseball players, the fact that you could fail for, like, two weeks at a sport and still be a good, you know what I mean? And be happy about it when you come. Yeah, it'd still be a really good, and then you hit three hits on the, you know, after 14 days, you're like, I'm back, I'm good. I think what some of my toughest slumps was a lot of it was mental too. It's just, you said, it's such a grind. So not only are you physically not able to achieve some of the goals, but you're just mentally grinding through it.

1:16:07So, I mean, I remember a lot of our coaches, which having great of them, you know, great coaches was a lot of them would sit me for a day and just tell me like, you're not playing tonight. Don't even do nothing. Go sit inside. You know, I might need you in the eighth or night. if the game comes up and then the next day you come out and you just, it's almost like a re-register. It wasn't like this big, you know. I mean, baseball's hard, as I said. When you go through those things, it's such a, I tell people, the mental side of what makes baseball hard is that, like you said, you go, I can go three weeks without being successful at all.

1:16:36You'd be doing that, you know, would you be happy with that at your job? No chance. You know, you're doing a radio station if you're. Right. If you did a bad show for two weeks, you're off. You're off. You're fired. So that's what, like you said, what's crazy about baseball.

1:16:47PFT Commenter:Yeah. So back to your high school days, you got an offer to play for June Jones in Hawaii? I did. To kick? I did, to kick. Did you ever consider that? I did. Well, that was an option. I mean, that was the second option. And the reason that was actually the heavily weighed option was I had a mom who looked at me and said, you're never going to be a big leaguer. It's not a reality. You go to college, get a diploma or get an education, and going on into life, that's your chance. right so that was the biggest challenge and at the end of it it was literally on the table and it was the day I got drafted I had a partial scholarship nothing more than that it's crazy when people you know ask me like oh you were probably sought after I go I said I had a partial scholarship to go to the University of Hawaii to play baseball the day I get drafted I get offered by June Jones a full ride because the kicker scholarship came over and I was a soccer player So this is how it all transitioned.

1:17:44I became, and he offered me this, and I took it. And I was totally gone whole until I realized that I didn't want to go to school.

1:17:51Big Cat:By the way. That's a completely fair thing to do, by the way. You're the Steve Jobs of sports. Yeah, I wanted to go to school.

1:17:57PFT Commenter:But also aside there, and this is going to sound obviously like a tourist, but the way you said Hawaii was awesome. Oh, thank you. Yeah. I mean, how cool is, I've been to Hawaii once. It's magical. Like growing up there, what was it like growing up there? You grow up in paradise. You didn't know any better. It's like I tell people anywhere you know you're from. I mean, there's always something special about your place. Yes, Hawaii's different. It's this magical place that everybody. But when I was growing up, I just, it was my backyard. When did you start surfing? I never did. What? Oh, you're going to find out.

1:18:27I knew this was going to caught you. Yes. So I think early on in my life, I boogie boarded. I dove. I did all the fishing. I did all the oceans. But I just never got into surfing. And then I think there was a couple times, though, like my friends and I talk now, that when I was boogie boarding as a young kid, I really wasn't good at it, and I got waffled, and I didn't have a love for the ocean, and I was always terrified, and I never really found. And then the second part is, honestly, I was playing a lot of my sports on land, and that my mom and dad would always say, like, you can't, you got soccer practice, you got baseball, where my buddies would be like, peace out, surf's up, I'm gone, you know, and they would go, and I always had that, you know, so I never really fell in love with it.

1:19:05I always respected those guys.

1:19:07PFT Commenter:Have you ever thought about as an adult, like, trying it? trying no i'm way past that in life i would be a good video you know it's funny i've had some of the greatest conversation with those guys and they all ask me how do you stand there in a batter's box and try to hit a baseball i go how do you stand there and writing down a hundred foot wave behind you and you think you're so cool and i was like we're we're there there's a different wavelength here so my point is just crazy how people look at baseball but i look at surfing as that kind of like it's this i look at them as legendary because i always thought it was hard i mean to go out there you know as i said growing up finding currents all your life swimming in the ocean with your friends it's not it's not a normal playground yeah you know but i i went when i went to hawaii i took i i went surfing once and i thought i was like nailing it and then i looked back and the instructor was pushing my board and i was like well this it feels good though to stand up yeah to do it yeah you're feeling a great spot i mean i i can picture myself getting in a barrel and riding that i can picture it but i don't think it ever if you try yeah yeah well i gotta i think I got to overcome the biggest fear of the ocean, like the power of the ocean.

1:20:10It's not even just the, you know, what's in the water. It's just the respect and, you know, what I had for what I call, you know, experiences probably as a youth in Mother Nature and going, this is not for me.

1:20:19Big Cat:Did you travel as a kid or were you mostly in Hawaii? No, mostly stayed there, yeah. I didn't leave much. When was the first time you saw snow? Well, lucky enough as a kid, our highest mountaintop, it snowed. So I got to go out there as a kid and go visit and see what we called snow. It was like we're looking out now at the top of Tahoe and you see that white cap up there. That's what I considered my snow. So as a kid, there was a few times it snowed at our Ties Peak. But if you want to talk about a real like cold, a cold equatable was probably my years in the Meyer Leagues. I think I ended up in I was in Scranton, Wilkes-Barre.

1:20:55And I remember one of the first times we were in Buffalo, New York. And it was, you know, April. it was got to been 20 degrees the wind was blowing that day and I remember sitting next to the heater in the dugout I'm out one of my teammates go what's going on you go bro I've never been this cold in my life so that was kind of my first run of really experiencing the snow that would make you homesick real fast oh real fast yeah I actually realized like why am I playing baseball yeah

1:21:19PFT Commenter:why do people look it was so cold you're right yeah uh who's your favorite teammate from all your stops in Major League Baseball and why? I would have to say Jimmy Rollins. Okay. You know, he was a big, he was like a big brother to me. He took me in as a rookie. You know, we've just, he was a guy that I always wanted to, you know, idolize when I was playing. You know, we always had our, like you said, your little internal lacrosse teams and all that stuff or your team that you have or your, we had a, we always had internal best to make ourselves better. So when I look back on my career, having a guy that pushed me like that, you know, true all those years, I mean, he was the one teammate that I would say would, you know, I mean, he was in my wedding.

1:21:59Yeah. That tells you. Yeah, yeah. Also a pretty cool guy. Yeah, awesome, bro. He's great. He's awesome. Last to hang out with. Yeah.

1:22:04Big Cat:Fun to watch play. Yes. We should also, we should give you credit. I think you're the only player to ever win two World Series for two different teams and hit a home run for the Savannah Bananas. I didn't hit a home run. You played for the Bananas? I didn't, but I hit a double in the gap. I thought it was a home run. It wasn't. It was a double in the gap. It looked like it. It looked good, but it was a double in the gap, and it ended up scoring the winning run in that inning. So how did they get you to go out there and play? I don't know. I just thought, you know what's funny? Honest to truth is my son wanted to get tickets to watch the Savannah Bananas in Las Vegas, and I tried through every avenue I could possibly, and I got denied.

1:22:41And I was like, what is this? Yeah. What is this? And lo and behold, I said, you know what? I think it was Jake Peavy or Johnny or somebody said, dude, go play with them. They would love to. And I was like, I'll text the guy, but I don't know if I want to play. So moral of the story is, that's how I got in tune with the Savannah Bananas. I had to go tell myself that I had to go play for them so my kids could go watch a Savannah Bananas games in Las Vegas.

1:23:09PFT Commenter:So being around them, is it true? I've heard that the Bananas are just swimming in pussy. is that true put it this way my wife was more excited at the end of the game to watch all of them jump in the pool in las vegas okay yeah versus you're right so yes you know so i say well what then i gotta go back to being 26 with abs babe like you know like but it was fun and then that and it is it is crazy the phenomenon of the family aspect the women that love it not just the you know the kids yeah i mean it's these moms that are out there they're so excited to be there It's crazy. It's awesome, bro. It is the craziest thing.

1:23:44PFT Commenter:I think it's in their contract. They're like, we'll pay you this and then also pussy. I also want to know whatever they're doing, they're doing it right. They're nailing it. They're having fun. But unfortunately, the older guys can't have that luxury of them. We joined that. It doesn't come in my contract. You mentioned your abs. What was the offseason you sent a picture of your abs to your manager like every day? Is that true? No way. I would never do that. Yeah, you did. No. Not once did you send it? I might have said one to John Farrell, I think, or somewhere. Okay, so that's literally true.

1:24:11I forgot. they were talking about it. I said, you know what? I'm going to flex on his ass.

1:24:16PFT Commenter:Was it sick to have abs? I never really had them. That was the point. I think it was more like, it's getting better, but I never had abs in my life. No. All right. So you also had two post-season grand slams. How often do you watch those back? I think my brother watches them way more than me. So when he's watching it, I end up watching it. But yeah, I mean, they're great moments. I think that I would watch it every day if I were you. I would. No, I get it. I I definitely watch it when I need that, you know, that reminder of how lucky I was and how blessed I was. Yeah. And when I say it that way, it's like, you know, when there's times where you're like, man, you know, it's not there anymore.

1:24:53It's not there. You go like, bro, look at how lucky you were. Yeah. At the end of the day, like, stop. You know, it's not that bad or whatever it is. Right. Like, look at how lucky you were, you know. And like I said, I always think about, you know, when I think about at the end of the day, how many baseball players have ever walked on this earth? You know, I got to play 10 years in the big leagues. that's even a smaller percentage. So it's like, man, how lucky.

1:25:15PFT Commenter:So that moment, both those moments, is that the highest high coming back to the dugout? Like being like, I mean, a grand slam in the postseason. That just has to be off the charts. Like you can't replicate that feeling. No, I mean, from an individual standpoint, yes. I mean, from that moment where it's like, yes, the whole world's on you. Correct. But winning two World Series. Yeah, of course. You know, that's high on and running in. I mean, like, but yes, from an individual standpoint, yeah, there's nothing like it you're floating in yeah yeah i tell people all the time it's like i mean like they're like how loud is it i was like truthfully man it's actually it's almost like quiet in your in your mind you know and you're just like i i it's almost like yeah you you you tell yourself as it happens like i mean when i hit that grand slam you know and i jumped around the bases in boston and i pounded my chest it's like i literally went back to like my childhood days yeah and you know that's every childhood dream like in playing in my backyard i go like bro this shit is real bro like this is i'm jogging around this basis bro like this is and so like that's what makes those moments that you said cool like yeah you're right i mean there's there's no other greater feeling other than having your child yeah be born and be healthy and you know but beyond that yeah being a savannah banana and getting all the poor and getting whatever you

1:26:24Big Cat:want yes you're right yeah that's awesome yeah it does seem pretty incredible so you talked about the pile a second ago the pile at the end of a world series were you at the bottom of the pile or i was always at the end because i was an outfield yeah i got to i got and in fact one of the you know one of i call one of the most iconic you know i think philly's pictures the pile that we have and i was lucky enough i'm kind of airborne and i'm landing on it yeah so the guys at the bottom of the pile oh they're getting it i feel like it's a great idea when you start the pile no and then after like two seconds i don't want to be under i'm claustrophobic so i'd panic like heck i guarantee that so i'm glad i was always the you know the outfielder taking my time on

1:26:58PFT Commenter:the way in yeah that philly's uh world series you won what was it was it three days of rain It was a day and a half. A day and a half. How much did that screw up? Because you guys got to just be like, get us out there. Like, we were ready to go. It was definitely something different to actually, like, stop a game mid-game. Right. Especially at that moment. Like, you know, but, I mean, ultimately there's no way we could have won. Yeah. You know, the way – and I would have felt bad winning a World Series. Yeah, right. It would have rained out four and a half or five and a half, you know, five-inning game, which was legit at the time.

1:27:28You know, but it was definitely you wanted it so badly. Right. because you felt it at your fingertips, you know. But it was almost to the point where it's like, okay, relax. Like, let it happen. Let it all – because, again, just as fast as momentum shifts, you know, shit like that can shift it back in their regard and we'll go back the opposite direction. But, I mean, being at home helped, you know, being in the city of Philadelphia, knowing that – literally, I remember actually that when you talk about that moment, I remember walking out on what I call game five and a half, and the second we stepped out of the dugout, it was 42 ,000 electric fans in Philadelphia.

1:28:01So it was like, oh, it's back in you. You know, the energy was right back in you. Right, right.

1:28:06Big Cat:What was it like going back to Hawaii after winning a World Series? Was it different? Yeah, I mean, there's not many of us that have, you know, have the opportunity to do that. So, yeah, it was definitely a big moment. I think for me, I think it was cool because it brought what I call a different sport to the forefront. You know, not saying that baseball was massive back home, especially at the U level. But there was never really one that someone that, like, said it and brought it. You know, I mean, there were successful big leagues, but not that World Series, you know, like. And especially in today's era, like, there's so much more.

1:28:41And there's so much where kids can learn from someone like, you know, something like that. Where back in the day, if they did win it, it was, you know, where it really wasn't talked about. There's not much to look at. But to know that I can go back home and try what I call transcend where the game and the kids think and how they think of the game. I mean, Vahivo Aloi, the kid that just won the Golden Spikes, you know, best college player of the year. He grew up in my little hometown. If you had told me that 50 years ago or however many years ago that there would be the best college baseball player that grew up in my little hometown in the little island of Maui, I would have told you, kick rocks, no chance.

1:29:15Big Cat:They had two Hawaiian guys on the team, right? Yeah. Yeah. It was the two brothers. They're brothers. Vahivo and Vahivo. Yeah. And I know them since they were this big. But it's like when you think about that kind of stuff, when you think about, you know, like, here it is. This is that moment. Like, this kid is now a reality because someone like me showed them that they can do it. Do you feel like it's kind of not mean, but the Flying Hawaiians is, like, one of the best nicknames ever.

1:29:39PFT Commenter:And no one else can have it now. Like, you took that. Like, we could have a Hawaiian baseball player who's – No, you can't. That's such a great nickname. When did you first get that nickname? So, it was actually a New York Mets game in New York. I made a diving catch in left center. and the announcer said it. I don't know if it was Ron Darling or Kiro. One of them said it. They're brought in the Mets broadcaster, and then it stuck. It was just like that, yeah, and then it became the nickname.

1:30:05Big Cat:Yeah, how long did it take for you to hear that nickname after the game? Because they're doing the TV broadcast, right? I forget who brought it up. I don't know, and I think they showed the replay. They kept showing it because it was a great diving catch, and then the more and more people showed the replay, the part of the broadcast, I think he said it or something like that, Like the flying Hawaiian makes this unbelievable catch. And then it was like, yeah, there it is. I read an article that you, your parents had to take you to the emergency room, something like 20 times before you were eight.

1:30:33Big Cat:Is that, is that, is that a fair estimate? It was, it was a fair estimate. It was very close. It was 10 times before the age of five. Oh my gosh. That's a lot. What were you doing? Just reckless abandon, man. I was just, I fell off a bike. I'm, you know, tire spoke in my ear at the end of the, you know, end of the cul-de-sac hit the curb going full speed. spoke in the ear hanging out with my brother dump on the bunk oh it's down there jump off the top, hit the screw on the side of the bed got hit by a moving car fell out of a moving car that was a little bit older in life

1:31:09PFT Commenter:those are two that are not got hit by a moving car

1:31:13Big Cat:fell out of a moving car are we technically moving? this one was technically making so the fell in love of the car was with my auntie and uncle, my auntie Valerie and uh old car you know sat on the door side back then you could you know four deep across the front through in the back little island cruising down the road in hometown the door falls open little shane's on the side of where the door falls open and he goes rolling out i mean he's going you know making a left turn not going 50 miles an hour but you know he's going 10 miles you know whatever so that was well i fell out of the car getting hit by the car was i was at my brother with my brother who was my again one of my idols he was four and a half years older than me so they're all with their friends are big in the bike bmx they all go to the friend's house i go and hang out with their brothers they're all watching the movie they're doing their thing i go out front take the bike to my grandma's house basically steal the bike from the brothers i go down i'm coming i'm trying to get back to where they are uh two lane road cars parked on each side you know little 12 year old pops his head out no car old lady's coming by 30 miles an hour hits me she said I go flying 20 yards, you know, I get back up, but you know, again, I'm 12 years old.

1:32:21So everything's still, she said, I literally was trying to run back to the bike and grab it. Cause I was so scared. Yeah. Cause I was gonna get my ass beat by my brother, my dad, my parents, my grandpa and everybody else. And not only that, his friends, cause now this bike's mangled. I'm more in panic mode. I think I was just in shock. So of course this lady grabs me. She's like, you can't go nowhere. I just hit you on the car. You know, I just hit you in my car. Like you gotta stay here. Of course now adrenaline comes down. Now it's like the, the pain starts kicking in and the crying starts happening, but I'm alive.

1:32:47first and foremost but the lady i remember sharing her telling my parents because i was what 12 13 so i still remember hearing it she was oh my god i hit your son you know i wasn't going fast but i was going 30 i mean it was you know going up 30 yeah and he came out of nowhere you know he was in between the cars he came out of nowhere and i hit him and he flew 20 yards in the air and he rolled he ran back to the bike she was trying to explain to my parents and i was like and then like i said it was just you know god bless i guess at the end of it does she know that she hit you like not back then she did not yeah but now now does she know like i don't know she was an older she long passed before i became something yeah okay when you look back on that kind of stuff but yes how the hell was i lucky you know right to survive all but you're you're you just described

1:33:28PFT Commenter:two like kind of traumatic like bad moments like your worst moments and they're significantly cooler and more badass than anything i've ever done like i don't why i don't wish i got hit by a car but like i didn't wish either but i looked at it casually throughout you got hit by a car and fell out of a car oh because i'm here now you know and i look back on the story i wouldn't be a little different if it you know traumatized me in the end yeah so you you had you have a adhd you when did when were you diagnosed with it because like back yeah back then it wasn't something that was no it was actually no and then that was so the other side to the story is at that age i was basically you can tell aggro and just wow i i had to leave a preschool at some point you know because of my you know adhc and it was fine i mean but these are all these moments when i look back on life it's like what i also realized that that's just part of and i was born with it it wasn't like i went to the streets and oh let me go do this and then it happens in my life so yes at a young age it was always like when i was always in trouble because i was always hyper you know active and i was all over the place but then you know as i you know learned through life like there was positives to a lot of that you know that good energy high energy stuff but you know as a kid people don't know how to control it you know but you know so it's it sounds like they they kept you really busy

1:34:40Big Cat:after that like you played every sport every sport that was it they gave me out of the house and you're an eagle scout right eagle scout yeah so that's that's like a lot of time that you're just spent doing structured activities right and that was what was important for me was to have that in

1:34:52PFT Commenter:my life yeah at what age do you think shane victorino could beat us up i'm thinking it's like seven like hearing these stories bro like no but hearing how crazy you were like i i was crazy i was crazy and i was tough but to a degree of what i needed to be yeah you know what i mean like and then i was also reckless around my friends i wanted to be the guy to show my friends like bro no don't be fearless like you you know i there might be not the right outcome but go do it like except the ocean the ocean's got your number well no that's a different kind of You're kind of a wimp for that. I'm a very much for a wimp for the ocean.

1:35:28I'm actually way tougher than you when it comes to water.

1:35:31PFT Commenter:If Shane Valdrino ever tries to fight you, just run into the ocean. It's like bees. Stay closer to shore. I got you. Go far out. I'll leave you alone. Oh, man. All right. So playing baseball, the grind of baseball, this might be a dumb question, but you're in the outfield. Were there moments where you're like, almost like when you're driving on the highway and you forget that you've been driving, were there moments where you're like, oh, shit, I haven't been paying attention for a while here? I tell you one of the greatest moments, my wife, we were in Seattle, and she told me that night after the game, because Seattle, they're seagulls.

1:36:02PFT Commenter:Yeah. And so, you know, I'm standing out in the middle of the grass, all of a sudden you see shadows. What are you going to do? You're going to look up, right? If you're in the middle of a grass patch, and all of a sudden there's a bunch of shadows over your head. So literally, she said, she goes, honey, I'm watching them pitch, and you're literally in center field looking at the seagulls above your head. And I was like, well, babe, what am I supposed to do? I mean, like, if you're out in the middle of a grass patch and all of a sudden you see shadows over your head, you're going to look up. So, yes, there are moments where there's things and objects that came into the play where, yes, I did find myself.

1:36:34I also did get thrown out from center field, so that's also one of the greatest things that I've ever done. Wait, what did you do? I got thrown out from center field. My greatest moments. Ed Rapuano was at home. He called Ryan Howard on a strike, and then I went out to center field, and I watched from center field, and he didn't call a strike on their guy, and I threw my hands up in there, and I was squaring at him, and he saw me. And he threw you out. And he tossed me. Oh, that's awesome. But unfortunately, I felt bad for him because it cost him the playoffs.

1:37:00Big Cat:Oh. I mean, but that's. Yeah, but I was like, why are you kidding me? You might be the only guy to ever do that. There's not many of us that got thrown out from center field. Yeah. For sure. So going back to one of my greater baseball moments. That's pretty awesome. That's good. What about switch hitting? When did you decide that you were going to hit from both sides? 22 years old. That feels like that's pretty late. Yeah, I feel like. When you have a coach telling you you're either going to home and go work in Hawaii or you want to become a switch hitter and you might become a big leaguer, then you tell me what you're going to do.

1:37:27Big Cat:So how much work did that take? A lot. I mean, what I tell me was just, again, it was not easy. Doing and hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do, like I said. But to try to do it at 22 years old against the best in the world at a high level, I was willing to try it. I was not trying to go home for the rest of my life and have no outcome. You know what I mean? But again, I look back and say having a coach that gave me that foresight, like, hey, bro, I think that if you do this. And at that time, I was in AA. I was eighth on the depth chart. Big leaguers are already there. So eight guys have to get hurt in the minor leagues.

1:38:02That ain't going to happen. But he goes, if you become a switch hitter and you're willing to try it, there's nobody on this list. Wow. And I can honestly say that at the end of my career, out of all nine of us, ten of us that was in front of me, I would say I was able to have the most successful career.

1:38:19PFT Commenter:Did you have a, after you got called up, did you have like a welcome to the big leagues, like, oh, fuck, this is different moment? Oh, yeah. Every fucking day for that first year. Really? Bro, this is what, I mean, it's just different. They were bigger. They were stronger. They were just athletic. They were the IQ of the game, you know? Right. I mean, it was, I call it, it became the chess match versus the checker match. like it's now a chess match it's not a checker you know like you gotta you gotta have that extra move and it was fun but I mean like I said the size of the guys you know just the way the game was played it was just it was a lot more fine too and it was cool but yeah every I still tell me even to the day I was done in the big leagues there was always ah me moments like you know playing with Mike Trout for the first time when he was healthy was like you know back in his day was MVP was like bro is this real yeah are you can you really be this much better everybody else So, like, yeah, there was always those all me moments in baseball.

1:39:16And I think that's what – and maybe I'm just kind of downplaying it, but it was cool to always – and that's why I loved and I respected the game so much. It was like, you know, I played the way I do it because it was like, man, there was always those all me moments, as good as I thought I was or as great. It's like, man, there's this dude or that dude, you know. Like, there was always those pinch me moments, I guess, you know.

1:39:35Big Cat:What about the flip side to that? Was there a moment where you got called up to big leagues and you were like, I belong here. Like, I feel like I can do this. I mean, at a young age of 22, I thought I'd be long. And then I got sent back to the minor leagues. But then I realized there was so much more for me to learn. So mentally, yeah. But I always never try to think that I was there. Yeah. And I think that's what helped me play for so long, too, was to never think like that. Yeah. And you got to think every year, bro, there's a whole plethora of dudes that are just coming after you every single year.

1:40:07I mean, I got to play parts for 13 years, 11 total, you know, like. Yeah. I'm lucky. You know, like, man, because, yeah, every year someone's trying to take your shit. There's that next trunch of people, whether it be college, high school, you know.

1:40:20PFT Commenter:Yeah. They're coming. They want to get you. Do you have your gold card on you? I do. Not on me. No. Have you used it? Never. Really? Come on. For people who don't know. No, I'm just kidding. You have? It is. I have never used it, but you're right. Will there be a moment I will? Yeah, hopefully not. It's the coolest thing ever. If you play, what is it, eight years? Eight years or more. Eight years or more in Major League Baseball, you get a gold card, and that gives you two seats to any game. You just got to walk up, and they'll give you two seats.

1:40:44Big Cat:They should give you a platinum card. You should get every MLB team and Savannah Bananas. Yeah. The only guy that has that. Savannah Bananas. I want to buy an ownership in that damn thing. I think they're an empire. No, just kidding. So you just walk up to the box office with the MLB gold card, and you're just like, hey, it's me. You're supposed to be able to handle them, and they're supposed to give you the two best available seats. That's such a cool rule. No, I think it's pretty cool. How have you not done that?

1:41:05PFT Commenter:I guess it's like, this is just, again, going full circle. This is like the UF World Series. We don't like this. I feel like I would do it every game just to be like, it's like a free Chipotle card. If you don't have it, you want it, right? Yeah. I want to do your job. I want to sit there. I want to be as famous, you know, and then talk on radio. Nah, I don't know if you want to do your job. I love it. I listen to you outside. Give it to somebody. Yeah. Who is, I got a couple last questions. The nastiest pitcher you faced. Who? Every guy. But who was the filthiest, like, God damn it, this shit is just different?

1:41:43Steven Strasburg, when he first came to the big leagues, and he made his debut against us, and I remember telling myself, come on, bring this dude up to the big leagues. I can't wait. And I think he shrugged me out my first two at-bats, one on a 3-2 changeup and one on a 3-2 curveball. And I remember walking back to the hotel going, you throw 100, and you just threw me two off-speed pitches in a 3-2 count. We got no chance, man. This is not cool. I mean, so Steven Strasburg, when he first came up, was, I mean, honestly, all the Hall of Famers, those kind of guys. But, like, when I look at that all me more and I was like, bro, like, this dude is not real.

1:42:21And his first, you know, however many years when he was healthy, it wasn't cool. Filthy.

1:42:25Big Cat:Yeah, people forget about him when it comes to that, like, upper echelon because the way the end of his career went. And then he had, obviously, the setback in the middle of the career. But then he came back from that, too. But at his peak, yeah, he was the best of the best. Yeah, I mean, it was a joke. You're running 100 miles an hour with, you know, you can throw everything else for a strike. It wasn't fun.

1:42:43PFT Commenter:NL East fan base you hate the most? Come on, man. The Mets? The Mets got to be. I mean, I just hate them, but I just, I love, I hate love. I hate love because what I loved about them was the fact that I knew that there was going to be fights with Philly fans that night. Yeah. And what I hate about them was the fact that they were obnoxious. Yeah. And they gave it to us when we came to town. Yeah. And that team's, you know, those years, man, those were some fun games because they were good. Yeah. Those teams in New York were very good, and we had some good old fun battles, boy. Yeah. All right.

1:43:16PFT Commenter:I have one last question. It's a Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com. Promo code TAKE. Max. Max is a Philly guy. Got it, Max. He is – you're one of his favorite players ever. I think – was he the – Yes. In the Little League World Series, he was your – the player, right? Yeah, I was in the regional, like the final game before you make it to the Little League World Series. They'd go around and ask – Who was your favorite player? I have the video pulled up. Oh, let's go. I have the video pulled up. That's awesome, man.

1:43:50PFT Commenter:Let's play it for him. No, that's it, man. That's what you work for all your life. It's kind of funny when you say that, you know. Yeah. You look forward to that, like you're a kid saying on TV. My favorite player. He just broke your sunglasses.

1:44:02Big Cat:He just broke Shane.

1:44:03PFT Commenter:He stepped on his sunglasses. Max just couldn't have gone worse. You stepped directly on his sunglasses, dude. Oh, my God. It's all right. Let me see it. It's such a crunch. What did you just say? It's a big one in T on purpose. Oh. Dude, that's so cool. Hello, my name is Dr. Woody. I'm the first place in the gym. Dude, that's so cool. What a cool moment. Yeah, what a great moment. Is that awesome, Max? And then now here you are, stepping on his sunglasses. Meeting your hero. What a moment. Do you think the 12-year-old Max Delaney would have thought, like, one day I'll step on his sunglasses and embarrass myself?

1:44:39No, yeah, that was the only way that was going to go for sure. For sure that was the only way that was going to go. So what's your question, Max? They talked about the grand slam against the Brewers already. I wanted to ask you, how does it feel to have the second best step out of that inning? And what were you guys thinking when Brett Myers pulled that nine-pitch walk? We were happy because we knew that that kind of exhausted CeCe a little bit. I mean, Brett Myers was one of those guys, man. You knew what you were getting, but you didn't know what you were getting. You didn't know if you were getting the Brett Myers that was going to be straight or you didn't get the guy that was going to throw at the guy's head for no reason.

1:45:17So, I mean, him doing that at bat, I tell people all day long, that was a big reason because I think he gassed CeCe. I mean, and he grinded. And not only that, you kept getting 40 ,000-plus on their feet as the bats went on. Yeah, I mean, it just got louder and louder. And I tell people any day, 45 ,000 in Philadelphia, look out. You want to be on the good side. And I was lucky enough to be on the good side. Yeah. You know, some of the craziest dude, Johnny Gomes told me, he goes, man, because he was in Tampa at the time, he goes, man, these fans are nuts. When I got to Boston, I was like, I was glad they were on my side.

1:45:51Yeah. But, yeah, Max, thank you. Appreciate that. Yeah.

1:45:54Big Cat:Never meet your heroes. You might destroy your property. Yeah, no, I'm sorry about the sunglasses. We'll survive. I think there's enough. Another good Max story. This was at the Super Bowl down in – what town was that in, Max? You remember that? You remember that night? What? Arizona, right? Yeah. We go out for a night. Max said he enjoyed himself until about 3.30 in the morning. And at the party we were at, there was that dude who was the mentalist. Oh, no, it was a different guy. My bad. Different mentalist was there. And he was asking all of us, like – I think he asked Jake, who's your favorite baseball player of all time?

1:46:23Big Cat:and Max, just from the back, pushes his way to the front line. He goes, my favorite baseball player is Shane Victorino. And so the guy had to completely change up his trick because now he's got to deal with drunk Max. He's like, no, you've got to do Shane Victorino. You've got to do Shane Victorino. Yeah, well, Jake was trying to do Derek Jeter. I thought that was too easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, way too easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's more challenging.

1:46:45PFT Commenter:Oh, man. Well, Shane, thank you so much. This has been a lot of fun, and we appreciate you coming on, man. Appreciate you guys. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Thanks, man. Appreciate it.

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1:49:18PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, our good friend Shane Bacon, ahead of the, I still call it the British Open, the Open Championship. You can see Shane on YouTube, Golf on CBS. He has the full preview, probably a little nerdier than what we are going to get into because we don't understand golf to the level that Shane does. But Shane, good to have you on. first question how many journalists are losing their clubs going over to Northern Ireland this week this is my favorite time of year where it's just basically a bunch of guys going over working the tournament also playing some rounds and then they lose their clubs and they complain about it all the time yeah I mean big cat I famously lost mine at St.

1:50:06Andrews a few years ago and had the random person pick them up in Edinburgh and bring them to my hotel a person that I did not know that just saw them kind of sitting in the corner after I'd lost them. But yeah, I'd say about half. I think about half the people lose their golf clubs on this trip every year. And I still kind of think it might be the only reason we still do Twitter. I think it's just to complain to the airlines. It's like maybe the main reason that we jump on it.

1:50:29Big Cat:Yeah, probably shit coins too. I'd say complaining to airlines and then pumping shit coins. That's keeping the economy afloat. So what's going on with Royal Portrush? Because each of these courses for the Open Championship has their own identity. They've got weird quirks about them. Some of them have got what?

1:50:44PFT Commenter:I just like the idea of like, this is our golf analysis. So what's Portrush's deal? What's his deal?

1:50:51Big Cat:What's his deal? What's he up to? Because sometimes you go over there and it's like, oh, this is the course that's got this one 40-foot bunker. Other courses, it's like, oh, we've got these things called burns that run along the fairway on 17-18 that'll fuck you up.

1:51:06PFT Commenter:Oh, here's a par three with 75-mile-an-hour wind that goes right in your face.

1:51:11Big Cat:Yeah, there's this one that's got a giant tree that grows, and we call it Old Boss Man. And you have to avoid Old Boss Man at all times. And back in 1970, who can forget when Sleepy Joe Williker got stuck in the leaves? But there's always, like, one thing about each course when it comes to the Open where it's like, this is what this course is known for. So what's the deal at Royal Portsmouth? So I would say the thing it's probably known for, and it was highlighted in 2019, is internal out-of-bounds. We don't get a lot of that in the States. The course I grew up on in East Texas had internal out-of-bounds, and we just didn't abide by it.

1:51:48We just hit the ball over the clubhouse and didn't care. But it's kind of necessary around this golf course, especially at the first hole. If you go back to 2019, this was like the height of can Rory win a major. 2019, going to Northern Ireland. He shot 61 on this golf course. when he was 16 years old. And the first hole on Thursday hits it out of bounds and made, I think he made it eight in this opening hole and shot 79. So that's part of it. It's probably the most penal in terms of driving. It's a tough golf course to hit fairways. You know, you think about St. Andrews, these are 70 yard wise fairways, right?

1:52:20It's almost impossible to miss the fairways around St. Andrews. This is a lot tighter. I was talking to a player earlier today and I said, how many drivers said maybe half, like maybe half the holes I'm gonna hit driver. That's something that probably doesn't play in the hands of a Bryson type, right? Who wants to lean on the driver as much as possible. But once you find the fairway, that's when it gets interesting. It's a second shot golf course, small greens for a link style golf course. And if you start to hit a lot of greens, I mean, if you do what Shane Lowry did in 2019, he had 80 % of the greens that week.

1:52:49You're going to have a real opportunity to contend. And we talk so much about distance. Like we love talking about Bryson bombing it and Rory bombing it. Scotty hits it plenty far. But when you dive into like golf stats, the big time dudes, like the big names we all know, are all near the top in terms of stroke gain approach. And that's all iron play. So like the Scotties, Morikawas, Victor Hovlands, those types of players. And so those will be the names to kind of focus on as Thursday gets going.

1:53:14PFT Commenter:What in general, like this style of course, the Lynx course, what do you need specifically in your game? Is it a lot more touch? Is it a lot more feel? what is it that like the profile because obviously Scotty Scott is going to be good anywhere there's some guys they're going to be good no matter what but but maybe guys that will have a chance here that don't have a chance other courses what is it about their game yeah I think the the interesting part about the open when you kind of look through it historically is you don't have to hit it super far I mean the U.S. Open was never you have to bomb it kind of golf course it's kind of turned into that a little bit which I think is a bit of a bummer it just feels like you have to hit driver far to contend to win at a U.S.

1:53:51Open. The PGA is very much like that. Augusta is like that as well. So you think about the majors, right? And they're all lean on the driver, hit it as far as possible. That's not the case at Opens. I mean, you go through the history of this championship, specifically, especially kind of in the modern times, and you'll occasionally get a Darren Clark or a Shane Lowry, you know, somebody that's not going to be in the top 50 % in terms of driving distance. So I think that's the unique part about it. Like patience is important. I think that's one thing that's gotten to scotty at this particular major and bryson as well is just kind of being patient understanding you're going to get some shitty breaks you're going to hit it in a pop bunker and not being able to stand in it like five's okay move on i mean you've got an opportunity on the next hole so i think as much as anything it's being okay with getting on this bad side of a draw having bad weather kind of pop up when somebody else played in perfect conditions and understanding that's kind of part of the game and i feel like this feels more four-day golf tournament than maybe some of the other ones we play.

1:54:44Big Cat:So how much of a factor is going to be the roulette wheel of the weather? Can we rely on anything with the weather at this tournament? Like, is it always bad in the mornings? Does it get worse in the afternoons? So it doesn't look like it's going to be too nasty in terms of wind this week. The forecaster saying, you know, maybe gusting 1520 on the weekend, which seems like a lot, but that's not that much in Northern Ireland. And the first couple of days seem pretty benign in terms of wind conditions. It's going to be wet. And that is the one thing. It's going to be rainy. It's going to be wet.

1:55:11The one weird thing about pro golfers is they refuse to wear rain gear. I've asked a lot of them about it, and they're just like, I don't like the way it feels, and obviously they get free clothes, and like, whatever, I'll just throw the sweater away on the back end. But, I mean, if it gets really gross, kind of the mudder type of players are the ones you kind of focus on. I think about guys that grew up in this. I think about guys that have played in Opens in the past that feel like this. If you go back to 2019, it was gross all four days of that Open championship, and obviously Lowry was there, and Tommy Fleetwood contended as well.

1:55:40Some other names I kind of like in these conditions, like I like a guy like Patrick Reed, who can just kind of mud it up and doesn't mind if it gets nasty, almost prefers it. Even a Jordan Spieth type, who's okay if it gets a little nasty and plays a little bit tougher in terms of the conditions. So those are maybe the names I lean towards. And then somebody like Scottie, and I keep going back to this, but Scottie does not like it when it's quote unquote unfair. I mean, that is the one weird thing about Scottie. He wants a great shot rewarded, and that's just not what Lynx Golf's about. And when you look at Scottie's record at the Open versus all the other majors, this is the one he has not played great at.

1:56:13So I think for Scottie, it's trying to lean a little bit more into that world versus, oh, my God, I pulled the three-wood off. Why is it not in the middle of the green? Why is it in that pot bunker?

1:56:20PFT Commenter:Yeah. So what is it about Lynx golf that a great shot is not rewarded? Is it just that much more difficult? Yeah, firm ground, so it rolls a lot. So, you know, you might land. You know, you watch pro golf. You guys watch, you know, PGA Tour golf a decent amount. You see a ball land on the front of the green. It's probably going to stay on the green, right? Here it can land on the front of the green, roll, roll, roll, roll off the back of the green, go down into a pop bunker, and you might be against a lip where you can't get it out. I think that's the unpredictability of firm conditions. I think it's something us nerdy golf people prefer.

1:56:50We like seeing the ball roll. PFT, I know you're a big root for the golf course guy, and these are the golf courses I tend to root for the most because you have to accept what happens. Like I caddied at St. Andrews out of college for a few months. I saw plenty of good golf shots that ended up in horrible spots. So understanding that it's not always going to be perfect. And, you know, it's how many shots do you see a three-pointer that kind of rims in and out and doesn't go through, right? It looked like a perfect shot, but it didn't go in. Or a perfect pass, you know, over the top of a safety or a corner and the receiver just drops it.

1:57:21Like those things happen in sports. And I think at golf it happens the most in these conditions versus most of the stuff we see the rest of the season. I'm excited.

1:57:27Big Cat:Might be a dumb question, but are there any golfers that are luckier, that are better at being lucky than others? I mean, I'm sure there's some that would say they're probably luckier. I think Jordan, for the first probably four or five years of his career, felt very lucky. I mean, you think about the way he won the U.S. Open, right? It's like Dustin Johnson hits it on the green, has a putt for eagle, three putts, makes par. Jordan Spieth wins the U.S. Open at Chambers Bay, right? Like, that felt a little lucky. It kind of, not handed an open, but, you know, you got the benefit of somebody kind of struggling down the stretch.

1:57:56I think Speed's one of those players that kind of feels lucky, but it always seems to be the guys that are playing the best golf. Scotty feels like he gets lucky a decent amount. Jon Rahm feels like he gets lucky a decent amount. When you hit great golf shots, you're always going to be rewarded on either one end or the back end. So I always kind of lean maybe towards the better players over maybe the guys that struggle a bit.

1:58:15Big Cat:I got a quick headline grab for you. Dig deep into the narratives of this Open. Is it now or never for Tommy Fleetwood? God, it feels like it. I mean, the Travelers thing was such a bummer. I love rooting for Tommy Fleetwood. He's my pick this week. I pick him like seven times a year, and he never wins. I kind of feel like Tommy Fleetwood's Gonzaga basketball is kind of my comment. Yeah, never been to a Final Four. Very good. Very talented. Number one seed a lot of the time. Obviously has the talent on the floor, but doesn't get it done. That's kind of who Tommy Fleetwood has become in professional golf.

1:58:49He played great here in 2019, finished second. He plays the Open, the best of all the majors, and he's one of the best iron players in the world. So it's kind of like do it now or you're never going to get it done. This is the last time I'm picking him, though. I can't pick him again. Like I said, I pick him too many times already, and he never wins. But I'm leaning on the Gonzaga of golf once again here.

1:59:09PFT Commenter:I have a question about the mentals of the golfers this week. So we have Scotty Scheffler just gave a press conference that was very honest and very real where he basically was like, I celebrate a win for about two seconds, And then I'm like, hey, what are we getting for dinner with my family? And just talking about like this pursuit, this endless pursuit, and maybe the highs aren't really fully worth it. And then you also have Rory talking about being honest about winning the Masters and feeling like there's kind of nothing left. Are these guys okay? Are we okay as a golf community? What's going on?

1:59:45I mean, everybody's also firing their caddies like every two weeks now. I don't know what's going on. I was texting with a caddy this morning. And I'm like, this seems abnormal. Does it feel abnormal to you guys? I do think it is something unique to golf, right? And I think this was a big struggle for Rory after the Masters, is you win the Masters. For you, it's the biggest thing you've ever accomplished, right? I mean, he admitted it. He talked about it. Obviously, you still have the emotions on the green. We talk about it in the sports world for what? Three days? Four days? And then it's like another golf tournament that quote-unquote matters as much as any other big signature events outside the majors, right?

2:00:19So I do think golf, of all the events, is the strangest one because you don't win a lot. And when you do win, you get two or three days and the narrative changes. And I mean, if I asked you guys, you guys pay attention to sports nonstop, right? If I asked you guys who won the Open two years ago or four years ago or six years ago, you probably wouldn't know.

2:00:38Big Cat:Hank knows. Hank's got it. Shane Lowry. You said Shane Lowry, 2019. Yeah, but Hank doesn't even know who's on the, what's the live team you always ask him about? Stop, stop. Yeah, guys, get up. Let's go. No, no, no, go. Four Aces. It's Dustin Johnson. It's Harold Varner. It's Patrick Reed. And it's this guy. Oh, no. Peters.

2:00:59PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thomas Peters. Yeah, no, you're right, though. We all move on very quickly from a lot of this stuff.

2:01:05Big Cat:But I do keep, like, a file in the back of my head of who has won a major.

2:01:09PFT Commenter:Yeah. It's actually more who hasn't won a major. Yeah, that's true. It's what the file is. if you win a Super Bowl or NBA championship or all this stuff in other sports you have like months to celebrate it right yeah and you have all this time to enjoy it and you get away from the game and all that stuff and golf just doesn't really allow you that I'd say maybe the only time these players really let loose is after winning a Ryder Cup because there's not a lot of golf on the back end of that but major season is so compact now with that PGA move a few years ago that it just feels like hey win it and then ride back to it and I honestly think that was a big part of why Rory struggled at the PGA.

2:01:43I mean, it's a golf course he should play well at, but I do think sometimes he's like, did I get my flowers appropriately for what I just pulled off? Because nobody thought I was going to win this thing ever, and it came down the stretch, it didn't look like I was going to win it anyway, and then I do get it done, and it's like, what are you going to do the rest of the season versus what you just got done and accomplished in your career?

2:02:01Big Cat:Well, you're an illegal driver, we found out later. Yeah, so we can wipe that one away from Rory. Asterisk, yeah, that's right. So you mentioned the caddy's getting fired. I know he's not playing in the open, but Joel Damon did part ways with Gino, his beloved caddy, a recurring guest on part of my take. That one stung because I like a lot of other people. We watched full swing on Netflix and it felt like these were two just great friends that were just going to stick it out together. Do you have any idea what happened there? I think that Gino has been very honest with Joel about if this isn't working for you at any point, let me know.

2:02:35And I think sometimes you need a new voice in your ear as a caddy. I mean, that's something Phil and Bones talked about when they split up, right? Is sometimes you have this messaging that you say to a player and at some point it just stops. Big Cat, it's like when you yell at your kids, right? And it just stops working, and you've kind of got to change your approach. And it's like, do I need to be nicer? Do I need to stop offering iPad or ice cream or whatever the case may be and try something a little bit different? But the caddy, I will say, it does seem very easy right now. And I'm not saying this about Joel or anybody, but it does seem super simple as a golfer right now to say, I need a change.

2:03:09Let's make it the caddy. And I think sometimes the grass isn't always greener. And I know Gino's going to get another bag because he's a very good caddy. I also know Gino's one of those dudes that if he wants to do TV at some point, he would be excellent at TV. So maybe if the caddy thing doesn't work out, he could go down that route as well. And I hope somebody I'm working with would hire him because he's a really, really good dude, thoughtful dude, and knows a ton about the game.

2:03:29PFT Commenter:Yeah, the other day I did a countdown on my daughter, 3-2-1, put your shoes on, like you have three seconds. And we got past one, and we just kind of stared at each other. And I think she probably needs a new dad. She realized what happens. Nothing happens after you get to one. Yeah. I just, I don't know. I'm currently in the same phase right now with my daughter, Big Cat. I don't even know. Like, I have no other pitches, man. Like, I've tried all my pitches. I've kind of, they're just hitting them out of the park, and I don't know what else to do. I almost feel like I might read a parenting book, which I said I probably would never do, but I think I might lean that route.

2:04:01If you have one to suggest, let me know.

2:04:03PFT Commenter:I just throw out crazy shit that kind of confuses them. Like, I'll be like, we'll be driving in the highway, and I'll just be like, I'm going to drop you off on the highway, and you're just going to have to walk home. And they'll, like, laugh and just be like. Maybe not in the book. Yeah, they'd be like, what do you mean? Like, we'll just get hit by cars and die. And then I'm like, all right, we have a good laugh, and then we move on. Have you thought about Jury's and shit? My son asked me the other day if I died and Mom died, could he live with Dude Perfect? And I was like, I don't think so. Yes.

2:04:28No. I don't know. I'd be gone.

2:04:30Big Cat:Yeah. Sure. Sounds great. It's also a great question. Yeah. Have you tried double ice cream? I know ice cream might not work, but what if you just said, we'll do double ice cream? Oh, dude, we're on the popsicles right now. popsicles are killing it in the summer they love the popsicles post camp is like one of the things at least saves me about an hour of silence which is nice yeah that's good absolutely uh we got to check in with you on uh the the update on the blueprint uh the handshake agreement the framework that we have between the live and the pga we've been all over this so how is the how is the blueprint looking right now have we made any updates to it has have terms been agreed upon it's it's dust has settled on the blueprint.

2:05:11They might abandon the project at some point. It feels like the PGA Tour has kind of won this thing. I feel like a year ago, we were all maybe thinking the other side of it. But I mean, Liv's out there and it's producing players. And I don't think any of the players care about it anymore. But I don't feel like they're any closer than they were when they said it was pending 18 months ago, two years ago, whatever the case may be. It just feels like the the blueprint is an idea of like the vacation home that you decided you can't afford, you know? Yeah.

2:05:40PFT Commenter:Yeah. It just got everyone off their back for a little bit. Yeah. I mean, you just throw words out in sport and then people go, you know, it's like we're, we're, we're searching for a new coach. The, the, the process is out there and you, then, you know, you never hire a new coach.

2:05:53Big Cat:We've got concepts of a plan. Yeah. Of the two mergers. Yeah.

2:05:57PFT Commenter:Um, can, uh, so, so give us your, if you had to pick, if I had one gun to head, gun to head, max, put your gun up. Gun ahead. Max is leaving. Shane, you have to give us five guys and one of them is going to win. Zach would never point a gun at me. Yep. Zach pointed a gun. Oh, he's got the gun. No, he's not doing that. He's got them up. He's got his DNA. Memes. Show Shane the guns that Zach has at him. Right here. Oh, look at that. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, they're there. Never thought he would come that way. All right, I got names for you. Five guys. I got Tommy Fleawood. Okay. Finished second 2019 at Portrush.

2:06:31T4, T10, two of his last three starts at the Open. I like Tommy Fleetwood. You guys are DraftKings guys, right? Yes. I was looking up some numbers on DraftKings. Spieth I like a little bit as a sleeper. Okay. Plus 450 DraftKings to top 10, plus 900 to top 5. I like both those numbers. I think in terms of the favorite, favorite guys up there, I like John Romolat at the Open. Cameron Young I think is a long shot I'm a fan of. He's played great at the Open in his very short career. And then Harry Hall is a name I also like. He's played some solid golf this year. Maybe not to win, but I think somebody to finish in the top 10.

2:07:08Plus, he's sponsored by the Hard Rock Cafe, which I think is the funniest golf sponsorship out there right now. I love the Hard Rock Cafe on the – I didn't know they still existed.

2:07:17Big Cat:There's an iconic one in Philadelphia. Yeah. The Commanders took it over. We took it over before the game. It was all over the news. Oh, no way. Yeah. Was the food okay? Is it still memorabilia all over the place? How was it? Well, I wasn't there for it. It's like a Philly stronghold. It's the most important restaurant in downtown Philadelphia. And for the Commanders fans to take that over really said something. So, yeah, I'm very I'm intimately familiar with the. I feel like I'm going to go to a Chili's over. But that's OK. That's great. Chili's. Yeah. Hey, did you have a question? I was going to say also Cameron Young MLB.

2:07:49What do you mean? Yeah, he's got the MLB. Like, that's probably the second most ridiculous sponsorship. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't get that. Hank, I don't get it at all. I just don't like what are they getting out of that? I think his dad is just friends with Rob Manfred or something.

2:08:00Big Cat:That's awesome. Wait, what's the most ridiculous? Well, he said Hard Rock. I think Hard Rock Cafe in Harry Hall is pretty ridiculous. I do like the idea of a professional athlete being sponsored by a different sport. That's kind of cool. I would love to be sponsored by the NFL. That's the most golf thing ever. If you guys remember Payne Stewart, the late Payne Stewart was sponsored by the NFL for a while. And he would wear the local team's color outfit that week during the tournament, which was awesome. That's right. Go to Miami and have dolphin colors. What about our good friend, our dear friend, Chris Godderup, just won the Scottish Open.

2:08:33Big Cat:Confirmed AWL. Confirmed AWL. Is there any translation between winning the Scottish Open and then how you perform at the Open Championship? I mean, I think, you know, I mean, obviously keep the train rolling. But again, it's not the same golf course as the Renaissance. I hate saying it that way, by the way. It sounds ridiculous. But that place, you just drive the hell out of the driver. Just hit it as far as you can. This place, again, not going to be that type of golf course. But he's playing solid. So, I mean, I could see him going out there and kind of following it up with maybe a top 25 or top 10.

2:09:00I don't think he's going to win.

2:09:02PFT Commenter:What about big week for our guy Brooks Koepka? We have the takeies on Friday. Oh, wow. Is he already called in or is he calling in? We have not taped yet the Blake of the Year, but he is obviously in the running, hasn't won that. What does he have a better chance of, winning this tournament or winning Blake of the Year? Man, what a great question. I would say he played really well here in 2019, but that was kind of high out of his power. Play with J.B. Holmes on Sunday. That kind of crushed his chances. Like, J.B. shot a million. I think J.B. Holmes was T3 or T4 going to the final round and finished like 45th.

2:09:35Shot like 86. I would say probably Blake of the year is probably where I'd lean. Right now. That being said, nothing would make me happier than Kepka getting contention. Kepka and Spieth playing well in majors makes this stuff more fun.

2:09:49Big Cat:Yeah, agreed. Agreed. Big time agree. You just mentioned, like, he got screwed by his partner. Is that a pretty common thing where if your partner, if he shoots like in the 80s, that you have a – most of the time the other guys that are paired with him have a very hard time shooting low? Depends on the personality. I mean, Koepka's not – I would think he'd probably even admit this, not the most patient golfer out there. He does not like slow play. He doesn't like guys that take forever. When you're shooting 86, you're taking forever. J.B. Holmes also very slow. So he was slow and, you know, shooting 100, so that doesn't help the situation.

2:10:19I think some guys just can kind of like check out, look away, look at the water, talk to their caddy, tell stories, things like that. But I think it's kind of personality driven if you can handle it or not.

2:10:29PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right, Shane, I got one last question. It's a Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. Promo code take 20 percent off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback dot com. Promo code take. Like I said, they have you have recaps of every round, right? Golf on CBS on YouTube. Yeah, we do something with CBS on the YouTubes throughout the week, and then we'll do the HQ hits and all that good stuff as well. So make sure you tune in because you can see the analysis after every round. Shane is the best in the biz when it comes to this stuff. And speaking of, you love golf.

2:11:03PFT Commenter:You golf a lot. But you also have a job. And I wanted to say thank you, Shane, because he actually had a tee time that he moved to come on this show today, something that Henry Lockwood would never do. Yeah, I had a 937. What's the question? Hold on, what's the question? It's a robot question. We're thanking our guests. That was a robot question. It's a great question. All right, robot question. Shane, if you were playing Dungeons & Dragons with us, would you be complaining that it's going too long because you had a tee time? No, I would be dialed on my job. I'd be locked in, and I'd be ready to roll.

2:11:36But wait. That's something that I'd be doing. I mean, like, shout out to my buddy Katropa and Joe Musso. I was supposed to be playing a little golf with them this morning. And Big Cat texted me yesterday, and I went, hey, listen, man, when the boys call, I got to do it. And golf be damned.

2:11:50Big Cat:But wait, what if it was on your birthday? I mean, even more reason to do my job. Nobody cares about my birthday. I'm not turning 16 anymore.

2:11:57PFT Commenter:Yep. Like, every birthday I have from this point forward matters almost 0 % to everybody involved. How's your game right now? You know, dude, I kind of lost it a little bit earlier this year, and I just found something about two weeks ago. so trending upwards I'd say I shot a couple under the other day which was nice and my home club have not touched that number in a little bit and I got a big a big tournament next week that I'm looking forward to so I'd say it's on the up and up how's Hank's game right now it's not bad he's playing a lot he missed an entire day of workout in Lake Tahoe he's not he's not as long as he would like to be yeah but I watched the long drive video PFT I mean you were giving it everything you had Was your back that messed up?

2:12:40Big Cat:My back's really messed up right now. Yeah, it sucks. Great course, right?

2:12:44PFT Commenter:Did you like the course we were playing on? Yeah, it looked great. Yeah, we got more coming. We played a skins match. It's a great course.

2:12:52Big Cat:We talked to the guy that runs the course, and the last thing he said to us before we go out there, he goes, okay, don't get bit. And then we're like, what? Bit by what? Yeah. He's like, coyotes and bears. I was caddying in Australia years ago for a friend of mine on the LPGA Tour, and I am like I'm not an arachnophobe but I do not like spiders like get out of my face with that stuff snakes whatever I lived in Arizona for a long time not a spider guy at all and I'm like jet lag get the bag out of the car I'm walking to the first tee to play a practice round and I almost walk into a spider web with a spider that was probably seven inches long like one of those ones that looks fake like you put like outside of your house for Halloween and I told my friend Irene I go listen don't take this the wrong way but if you miss hit a drive and it goes in the shit i'm not looking for it like yeah you can have a spotter help you you can go look for it if you want but i'm out like this is not part of my job i'm not getting bit by a spider no thank you yes yeah i will never golf in australia everything in australia will either kill you or buy you a beer yeah yeah it's really why is it all in australia none of it new zealand don't

2:13:52PFT Commenter:understand that that's true it's a good point uh all right well shane you're the best uh thank you appreciate you as always and uh we'll talk soon thanks boys okay let's wrap up the show It is summertime. We're golfing. We're on the boat. We're having some backyard barbecues. It's the warm weather, and when you close your eyes and you think about what would be the most delicious drink to drink during all those things I just described, it's Mountain Dew Baja Blast. Grab a blast of refreshing tropical lime flavor with Mountain Dew Baja Blast. Baja Blast also comes in zero sugar. We're going back to Barstool Camp this year in a couple weeks.

2:14:32PFT Commenter:It's about a month away, and Mountain Dew is taking us out there. It's going to be incredible. There's nothing like being out sun beaten down. You're out on the lake. You're playing volleyball. You're playing softball. You're grilling. You're golfing. And you have a Mountain Dew Baja Blast. Ice cold Mountain Dew Baja Blast. So go try Mountain Dew Baja Blast right now. I was drinking one the other day. It is the absolute best. It is so good, especially when it's hot out. but you can just visualize your hand going into a big cooler full of Mountain Dew Baja Blast. Ooh, that's good. So go try Mountain Dew Baja Blast right now and get excited for our Barstool Camp coming up in a month.

2:15:13PFT Commenter:Okay, guys on chicks, but first, Zach, we have an official date. Don't say time or place or anything, any details, but do we have an official date?

2:15:25Big Cat:I won't dox the date, but we do have an official date. Let's go. We do. All right. We got date. We have time, location, activity. Don't say all of them. We do have all of those things. Today is not that day. The day is coming soon. So as long as she's still down for the day in the upcoming days, we will be going on a date. Are you excited? I'm looking forward to it very much so, PFT. I'm excited for you. And I think you're going to nail this. What was the response like? Was it happy? Was it friendly? In the discourse back and forth? Yeah. I would say so. It was Friendly Cordial.

2:16:03PFT Commenter:Friendly Cordial. It's a good baseline to build off of. Friendly Cordial is a great combo. I think it, hopefully it goes well.

2:16:12Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. We're not doing Pilates on the first date. Thankfully, we're not getting into Pilates studio on the first date, no. That would be catastrophic DefCom 1, or the highest of DefComs. Yeah.

2:16:23PFT Commenter:I can't never remember if it's 5 or 1.

2:16:25Big Cat:I think it's one. Have you guys seen the contraptions you got to get into for Pilates? I have, yeah. They're intimidating.

2:16:34PFT Commenter:It's scary. We'll maybe, if the first date goes well and there's a second date, then we will do a video of us trying out Pilates so that we can get you up to speed.

2:16:44Big Cat:I did see there were quite a few Pilates studios trying to get you guys to do Pilates.

2:16:47PFT Commenter:Oh, okay. All right. Well, we'll maybe do it. All right, Hank, guys on chicks. Hey, PMT. Another Rachel AWL here. I just want to say that I've been listening for years, and Zach is one of the most genuine and well-intentioned people you guys have had on the show. His genuine appreciation and excitement for everything he gets to do makes me so happy. My question is, Zach, if you could plan your ideal first date, what would it be?

2:17:11Big Cat:Don't talk to your date. Don't talk to your date. I won't talk to your date. Ideal first date, I think drinks is a safe call. I also think maybe like an activity, but not too strenuous. Like intermediate strenuous No no no beginner strenuous Beginner yeah yeah Maybe a walk A light walk

2:17:31PFT Commenter:A walk would be not bad Wine walk A little wine action Yeah A walk would I feel like a walk is good Because you can like You could do a walk And then if it's going well Be like let's go grab a drink It's kind of a lead in Right

2:17:44Big Cat:There's a checkpoints along the way

2:17:45PFT Commenter:Yeah And I feel like a walk also hits that Every girl's brain being in a rom-com Where it's like hey let's walk the city If it's in the fall Y 'all love, yeah. Yeah, nice autumn walk.

2:17:55Big Cat:I also like how Zach's brain works in terms of video games, like hitting the checkpoints along the way. So if you screw something up, you just go back to the bench. Yeah. I could see the similarities there. Yes, we'd have to go back to the save point at that point. Yeah. Okay. Hey, guys. Hey. I was recently on my honeymoon with my husband, and I found out he body washes before he washes his hair. I've always done the opposite, and I shampoo and condition my hair before I body wash. Am I the weird one or is he? I think it just comes down to guys versus girls. More specifically, long hair versus not having long hair.

2:18:28Big Cat:This is also a good Mount Rushmore don't care about what order you wash in. I also definitely do not have a consistent order. At all. Because guys, especially guys with short hair, we just take the body wash and then we just put that all over our body.

2:18:44PFT Commenter:Yeah, why did you say we?

2:18:44Big Cat:Because I used to have short hair. Oh. So it's like you just take the all-in-one. That's stealing valor. That's not a we you can use. Yeah, well, for like 30 years.

2:18:54PFT Commenter:Yeah, I don't know what order I do it in. I don't think it matters. I do body wash and then wash my hair. I think I do body wash first. I think you're supposed to do. You're supposed to. If you have long hair. You're supposed to shit, then get in the shower. I can't tell you the last time that I've taken a shower without at least trying to shit. Yes, of course. And I sit on the toilet for like 20 minutes. Yeah. Whatever. But I'm normally body wash before wash your hair. but I think you're supposed to let the conditioner stay in your hair for a long time. I found out when I was 26 that you were only supposed to wash your hair once or twice a week.

2:19:29PFT Commenter:Yeah. I did it every shower. I still do it every day. I wonder, how many women do you think realize that we do not take long showers as men? We're just shitting for the first 20 minutes of the shower. Because I turn the shower on. And I know that's kind of wasting, but I also don't want anyone to hear me shitting. You're a self-conscious shitter. Well, I mean, I do some damage, dude. It's not pretty. Yeah, bag it up. Bag it up. Yeah, listen, I had a couple tweets about that. Probably overshared, but I also stand by what I did. And I'll have to do it again. Done it before. Did it in Tahoe. Gonna do it again.

2:20:05PFT Commenter:If you get stuck in a situation where you have a clogged toilet, just find a little plastic bag. Put your hand in it. Do it.

2:20:11Big Cat:Do they make an all-in-one body wash that also has, like, you can brush your teeth with it? Like, all in one.

2:20:16PFT Commenter:And drink. And drink.

2:20:17Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You get the shampoo, the conditioner, the body wash, the toothpaste, the mouth wash. Lube to jerk off. Lube to jack off. Deodorant. That's just body wash. No, body wash can dry you. It can dry you out, Hank. Jack off with body wash? That would... It stings. Dry you right out. Dr. Bronner's just have a couple 18 in one options. 18 in one? I love that. You can do full body teeth. It's got a meal in there. It's got protein. I don't know the calorie stats on it, but maybe. It's pre and post workout. Why not? Yeah. Douche. Douche your butt. Hi, PMT boys. First of all, speaking for the lady at AWLs, we're very offended Max wouldn't consider attending a bachelorette party for his punishment.

2:21:07Big Cat:Yeah, it was disgusting. Greed. Secondly, as someone who's striking out on dating apps, would you consider helping me with the new opening line to use on guys to really grab their attention? Tits only get you so far.

2:21:16PFT Commenter:Wait. An opening line? No, tits get you everywhere. What? I don't know. I mean, just tits are there. You just have to say hi. Yeah. Do you like my tits? Hi. That's actually a really good opening line, because then the guy will just say yes, and then you're off and running. Hey, I'm a woman. Hey. How are you? That should do the trick. Hey, I have tits. I don't know if you saw. Scroll up. yeah i don't know what an opening line would work look like for a woman um

2:21:51Big Cat:just notice him doing anything be like wow you look really strong

2:21:54PFT Commenter:yeah or oh no maybe just hit him with uh yeah like parlay for tonight question mark yeah that that would that would that will reel him in right there want to go to the mls game with

2:22:05Big Cat:me yeah because like if a girl asks you to she means business i don't think that would work She's not doing it for fun. Biggest sport in the world. Yeah. It is. Good point, Hank. Hey, PMT crew, five-time AWL here with some first-date advice for a new Zach rap. On the first date, you go absolutely need flowers. Go colorful, not just roses, and pick somewhere nice but not too nice because you can't set the bar too high. My vote would be a Chili's so you can both get a trip dip and$1 marks. The girls love Chili's.

2:22:37PFT Commenter:Chili's is definitely a place that girls get horny at. It's very romantic. For sure. Flowers or Chili's? Is that what we're talking about? Flowers then Chili's. Yeah, Flowers and Chili's. I think that does play.

2:22:49Big Cat:Have you thought about the Flowers move, Zach? I haven't thought about that. I do respect the Chili's move, though. Mm-hmm.

2:22:56PFT Commenter:You might have to get to a Chili's.

2:22:58Big Cat:Pivot? No. No, I can't pivot. No, Chili's. Don't change the location.

2:23:02PFT Commenter:Yeah, yeah, don't change the location. Flowers, I feel like, is a try-hard move. It's kind of heavy, first date. It's a very heavy move. Mm-hmm. I think flowers are a try-hard move just period.

2:23:14Big Cat:Anniversary, birthday. Yeah, I do it, but I don't like it. In conjunction with other things, yeah. I'm a random flower guy. Oh, wow. Try hard. No. That raises a lot of questions, though, Max. Try hard. No. Surprise flowers?

2:23:25PFT Commenter:Surprise flowers can get you into a situation where, like, what did you do wrong? Yes. Flowers are the easiest thing to do, though. Like, you're just at the grocery store. Yeah, I don't like doing it. And you see, like,$10, and it's like, oh, yeah. why wouldn't I just buy these for$10 and get some brownie pours? I used to have a guy, there was a guy that on my commute home in Massachusetts would be on the street selling them sometimes.

2:23:46Big Cat:You buy them for yourself? No. Yeah, the I fucked up flowers. Yeah. Doesn't Ernie Johnson, every time he goes to the grocery store, he gets a dozen roses for his wife? That's a try-hard move. And then a dozen roses for a stranger? Yeah. To just give it to him? Oh, he does. There's flowers, yeah. That kind of rocks, actually. Yeah. Doing the stranger thing. Ernie's nice. Numbers. Three. That was Hank. That was Hank.

2:24:08PFT Commenter:99. Oh! Memes. Memes.

2:24:13Big Cat:Oh, look at that shirt, Pug.

2:24:14PFT Commenter:Pug, you're untapped? Did they send that? Get your own number, bitch. I just did, bitch. Did untapped send that? Fuck yes. I was... Yeah, untapped, hooked it up. Pug. I love watching Pug tap in. There's just something about it. Chill week with the boys. Watching the replies. Now it's chill week sipping.

2:24:32Big Cat:Watching chill week sipping. He deleted the G at the end of sipping. Watching the replies come in, nice. Good beer. Toast. I'll go six. I'm going to go 66. I'm going to go 21. Nine-nine's been cold. Yeah.

2:24:48PFT Commenter:One pug. 11. 16. 21. PFT already took it.

2:24:56Big Cat:21? Yeah. I took 21. On Chargers Jersey Day? Yeah. On Chargers Jersey Day, nonetheless. 85. Okay. Or no, 17, sorry. I didn't know it was Chargers Jersey Day. I wouldn't have done it.

2:25:11PFT Commenter:Who got three?

2:25:13Big Cat:Hank did.

2:25:14PFT Commenter:Nine-nine's been cold. Come on, three. It's due.

2:25:22Oh. 89.

2:25:25PFT Commenter:89.

2:25:26Big Cat:Wow. Dirty dog. You guys are going to have to start picking 99. Love you guys. That's fun.

2:25:37Thank you.

2:26:06Thank you.

2:26:36Thank you.

2:27:07Thank you.

From the publisher

Kyle Schwaber wins the first ever ASG swing off and it was awesome. People were mad that Ohtani and Judge left the field early to get back home (00:00:00-00:09:33). Big Dumper wins the HR Derby that continues to be broken (00:09:33-00:11:11). Terry McLaurin is still a commander and PFT is not worried at all (00:11:11-00:23:56). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Paul George injured again, and Zac gets a gift from the Bucs (00:23:56-00:48:52). Mt Rushmore of things people dont care about (00:48:52-01:07:46). Shane Victorino joins the show to talk about his career, growing up in Hawaii, being an all energy guy, getting hit by a car as a kid and Max asks him a question and totally blows it (01:07:46-01:48:25). Shane Bacon joins the show to talk Open Championship and give us some picks for the last major of the year (01:48:25-02:13:09). We finish with guys on chicks (02:13:09-02:24:32).


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