Stanford Steve Talking Ball, NFL Week 14 Picks & Preview, Lions End The Cowboys, Lebron's Streak Ends, Fyre Fest And More

26:28Minimum odds required. For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.co slash audio. Limited time offer. Okay, week 14 is Picks and Preview is also brought to you by our friends at Uber Eats. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats, reminding fans that if football coincidentally makes you hungry, you can get game day deals on wings, burgers, beers, chips, and more all season long, all on Uber Eats. What are we thinking about, boys, this weekend? Wings? Oh, wings would be good. What about pizza? I haven't had wings in forever. Pizza, wings. Probably salads. Oh, salads? Yeah.

27:01No, it's Super Bowl. I like how Max had it the other day. Every Sunday is a Super Bowl. Are you trying to diet right now? two for two for two on gym gym day since i joined my new gym i love that i love that i was squatting and dead lifting this whoa what if we did what if we did wings but we also did fried chicken sandwiches something healthy max what so fried chicken sandwiches yeah yeah yeah yeah protein yeah chinese rice health yep good call okay so uber eats you'll love being able to get your personal favorite game day foods delivered on uber eats so that you never miss a play when football makes you hungry get game day deals all season long only on uber eats okay boys week 14 this is the slate of the year this is the slate of the year we have to we do have four buys this is the last time we have bye weeks um but yes we you obviously just listened to us talk about the cowboys lions game we have the patriots giants 49ers and panthers on a bye week this week last buys of the season but yeah i'd agree there's there's some very consequential games going on there's the biggest playoff um disparity like in terms of winning and losing with the ravens and stealers right right the bears packers the texans chiefs feels like an elimination game for the chiefs probably not the texans i would actually say this is week zero the playoffs yeah playoffs start now love that playoffs start now hank congrats on the bye also congratulations to the NFL, the Chiefs and Cowboys game broke a record for most views in a regular season game in NFL history.

28:4057.2 million viewers. NFL is king. Good job. We did it. That's us. That's us. That's us. We did it. I'm shocked it took this long for Roger Goodell to be like, what if we did the Cowboys and the Chiefs? Yeah. The number was so much higher, though. It's almost fishy. What do you mean? Between the set. Like it wasn't like 20 million views more than number two. It was. Yeah. Not 20 million, but it was, uh, I think it was like 10 million. Yeah. So it broke it by a lot. Yeah. I mean, it's listen, we did it. We did it. We should get credit for this. We did it. But yeah, they're in this week. There are seven teams who play off, uh, whose playoff chances will swing by at least 25 % with a winner loss in week 14.

29:28So I'll list them for you because it's kind of fun just to look at these charts. The Steelers, with a loss, go from 65 % or win with 65 % loss all the way down to 18 % to make the playoffs. So I've got slightly different numbers. Okay, what do you got? I've got them all the way up to 75%. Okay. And then the Ravens, if they lose, that would drop it to 21%. If the Ravens win, that pushes up to 70%. Oh, yeah, we have way different numbers on all of it. This is from Aaron Schatz. So I don't know where you got yours. I have like this guy tweets out a, I wish I had his tweet right now. He just has the chart every single week.

30:04It's kind of cool. Yeah. Where you can just see like, ooh, that game matters. Ooh, that game. At the end of the day, the games matter. The games matter. The bottom line is buckle up your pants. Yes. Big time games matter. Okay. Let's start with a game that matters. I ordered these now that we're at this point in the season. I ordered them in terms of like most watchable games to start so that we can kind of figure out the TVs we probably will end up doing Raven Steelers for Jerry on the TVs but I'm most excited for the Bengals Bills game in the early sleep Bills minus six overrunners 52 and a half Joe Burrow back I know that I've made the joke that everyone says don't let the Bengals into the playoffs we won't there is a chance the Bengals can make the playoffs because if they can win this game the rest of their schedule is easy plus a Ravens game where it would obviously swing a lot so maybe i i fell for it myself where i said they won't but maybe they will okay so big cat here's an interesting number for you okay uh in the last year yeah the last year last 12 months joe burrow has started how many games would you guess in the last year yeah calendar year calendar year he started five games he has started eight games oh care to guess what his record is he is four and four.

31:26He is eight and oh. Oh, wait, what? As a starter. As a starter, he's eight and oh? As a starter in the last calendar year. The last calendar year? Yep. Okay. I guess I thought they, for some reason, I thought they lost that game to the Steelers last year at the end of the season. Did they win that game? What about the Patriots game? They, what? Say it again? Oh, no, they did win out last year. For some reason, it's because they didn't make the playoffs. They won. Yeah, Joe Burrow. Yeah. Are you thinking of Josh Allen? Joe Burrow. We're thinking of Joe Burrow. Yeah, Joe Burrow is not lost. Wait, but he only played in this calendar year.

32:01He's only played. Oh, are you saying 2025? 2024. Since last year, since like this date, December 2nd. That was 365 days. Calendar year is this, is 2025. That's how I was answering it. I was answering it with the one game at the end of last year and the beginning of this year. That's why I said like three, four. So when the stat was pulled up, it was December 2nd. when I looked we're off to a bad stat start all around so it's two 360 367 days okay yeah in the last 367 days yes I would have believed that it was somewhere around eight starts I did not realize it was eight no eight no though yeah eight no is pretty impressive yeah but it must wins Hank is still dumbfounded by that stat no I make sense now yeah we were thinking calendar year 2025 okay that is the calendar year gotcha yeah I always yeah 12 months is a calendar a full calendar I think I've just been using that term wrong my entire life.

32:54Calendar year is like when you get a calendar, it starts in January. Yeah. So I was saying calendar year, January, the last game he played last year, and the two games he played the beginning of this year. It makes all the sense in the world now that I think about it. I've just been – for 40 years, I've been saying calendar year for 12 months. So like in the middle of June, if you said, hey, in the last calendar year, you'd go all the way back to June? Yeah. I would have. That makes no sense. I know. I know. It makes no sense. Now I'm realizing it. I just – in retrospect. Putting the word calendar in front is just an extra word that makes...

33:25No, that's just the year. Yeah, I just say it in the last year. Yeah. So, yeah, like on January 2nd, you can give us a last calendar year stat. It would just be January 1st and January 2nd. Yeah. In the calendar year. Okay, yeah. I mean, Joe Burrow... By the way, I love that Joe Burrow is... Sometimes we forget that athletes are just so focused on what they have in front of them and not the outside world. Did you see that Lane Kiffin, they asked about Lane Kiffin? in the press conference, and Joe Burrow was like, yeah, I think it's good. And then they broke the news to him. They're like, Ole Miss, he's like, Ole Miss is in the playoffs?

34:00Yeah. And then he's like, are they keeping their staff? Oh, okay. They had to explain the whole situation to him. Joe Burrow is just focused on football. I love that. I don't think he pays attention to other sports. I think he's focused on – he might not even watch that much football. He might not watch that much NFL football at all. He might just be focused on Joe Burrow. Yeah, he's focused on Joe Burrow and getting himself ready to go. We have our Hamlin game. Yeah, the Demar Hamlin game. Prayers for Demar. The Bills. I do think something happened with Josh Allen getting hit at the end of that first half against the Steelers.

34:32I said it on. I said it on Sunday after the show or during the show that that was the start of the championship DVD. I think they interviewed a Bills player and someone was like, yeah, they like lit a fire under our ass. You can't do that to our quarterback. They also signed Darius Slay Who's just getting passed around He just played against the Bills I thought he was going to go to the Birds I did too I thought he was going home Birds not in the Darius Slay business The Bills by the way are 5-0 this season When James Cook has 20 plus carries on the game The Bengals defense has gotten better But they also can get run on I kind of like the Bills in this game I know I'm going to look stupid If the Bengals make the playoffs But I kind of like the Bills in this game So I was thinking about the best teams playing right now in terms of the last couple weeks.

35:18I would think about, obviously, small sample size, but Thanksgiving only for Joe Burrow. The smallest sample size. Yeah, the Bengals. One game. But they looked really good in that game. They looked like a complete team. Obviously, the defense, not great, but they looked like they were an average defense in that game. And Joe Burrow and the offense looks incredible. I think the Bengals are very dangerous. Yeah, they are. Don't let the Bengals in the playoffs. And we might now. I'm looking at their schedule. I've had to change my tune. We might. You know what the funniest possible outcome would be?

35:52If the Bengals made the playoffs and then just got the shit kicked out of them in the first round. You don't want to see these guys in the playoffs. But then we did. But then we were right that we didn't want to see them in the playoffs because they suck. Yeah. Yeah. Do you like this game? Do you like this hungry dog? No, I do. I do. I do. I do. Oh, you do. It's a PMT hungry dog. Oh, okay. So it's Bears, Commanders. Jets. Jets. Oh, my God. Hank, you dog. I'll have to ride. I don't hate it. No. In fact, I love it. I love you, Hank. I love you. I love all of you. Okay. Next game. Yeah, I do like the Bills in this game.

36:32I don't. I just. Man. The Bills are banged up on the offensive line. Is Dalton Kincaid back? Dalton Kincaid. I don't think so. He was limited at practice. You know, Dalton Kincaid being out has really made me realize that they're not Dalton Kincaid and Dawson Knox are not interchangeable. It's been good for Dalton Kincaid to be out for. Yeah. Yeah. Because the whole time I was like, oh, they both have names that start with D. They play the same position. They're the same guy. They're both DK. DK. Yeah. No. Dalton Kincaid is very good and they need him back. Latest injury news for Dalton Kincaid.

37:07Slate his question. So he might be ahead of schedule. but what if Dawson Knox was out would we then miss Dawson Knox do we need both of them both the DK's probably I don't know the Bills I don't want to say the Bills are going to look past this game because they still need to win games but they do have the big game do they play the Patriots next week is that next week huge game for the division t-shirt and hat game next game that's the game by the way 300 That's the game. Colts minus one and a half at Jaguars over under is 48 and a half. The Indianapolis Colts have not beaten the Jaguars in Jacksonville since 2014.

37:51Ten straight. That's a lot of calendar years. Isn't that crazy? They're also overall, they're three and 16 against the spread versus the Jags since 2015. The Jags have always given the Colts some problems. Yeah, so the Jags have won their last ten games in the entire series. when they're the home team. Yeah. Not just in Florida, but also in England. London games? In England. They did that too. In this game, it's going to be very funny. A good reminder of what football really is. Because you've got Armstead and Trayvon Walker, both with broken hands. So we're going to have double club on the defensive line for the Jaguars.

38:32They're going to club it up. Running around, trying to tackle a guy with a broken leg. That's what football is this time of year. By the way, I got a little bit more of an explanation from our doctor, Dr. Dan, after we said, how the hell does Daniel Jones play with a broken leg? He sent me some words that I didn't fully understand about injuries, but essentially boiled it down to it's more of a ligament injury that has a bone displaced. So it's similar to a really bad ankle sprain. Got it. There's different types of broken fibulas, too. There's one where it's cracked that you can't really walk that much on.

39:08And then you have the one that you get when you sprain your ankle really badly. And the ligament pulls some of the figure. That's exactly what it is. So it's a really bad sprained ankle is what he explained it to me. So that makes a lot more sense that James Rose is playing. So apparently he's got a 3D printed pad on his leg. And we noticed that last week when we watched him play. It looked like he had something big shoved down his sock. Yeah. And it's a 3D printed pad that was built by his old teammates at Duke. They started a business, 3D printing injury pads. And now he's having that. Did you pay for the paywall for that article?

39:44No. Okay, yeah. I saw it as well. Not at all. I saw the interview. Fuck it. I saw the interview. Oh, yeah. Greg Doyle had an article and it was paywall. And then my usual bypassing a paywall website doesn't work, so I just didn't read it. I would love to hear Greg Doyle's take on this, though. he probably would be like kailan clark kailan clark can't do this i'd love the keys to daniel jones for a minute uh daniel jones also said that they have an app for this pad that you wear on we have too many apps yeah too many apps you have an app for everything in your life every company everything you buy something from they make you download their own personal app for it now we have an injury pad that you put over a broken leg that you have to have an app for love it that's uh i think we've gone too far with the apps but yeah daniel just still tough still very tough that he's playing with this uh with a broken leg jaguars are playing with their throwback jerseys which i love that's pretty cool i those are their i think the first iteration of jaguars jerseys which were the best jaguars jerseys there was some pushbacks some people were like oh you hate the cults i don't hate the cults i said on sunday that i think the cults could be in deep water because the cults have the toughest remaining strength of schedule based on win percentage yeah so they played the Jaguars the Seahawks the 49ers the Jaguars and the Texans those are all those are all playoff teams right now obviously the Texans are not technically a playoff team but I think they will be in the playoffs they're gonna have to prove it down the stretch we also have a guy who I hate I do hate I'll be honest with this Blake Groupie he just misses every kick whenever I need one he's now on the Colts did not know that he's on the Colts and he took a shot at the Saints saying to now be a part of the Colts and feel like I'm playing meaningful football.

41:23We're all working towards something here. Not really a shot more just of a, yeah, I mean, the saints are not good. The nice thing about Blake groupie though, is if, if you look at him, you're like, that's a kicker. Yeah. He is like the, the create a player generic, create a player for kicker in Madden. Everything about this guy screams place kicker. And I like it when the kickers don't try to get jacked up. Yep. We've seen too much that recently. Blake groupie is his BMI is probably like 18, 15, maybe. uh he's i think like five seven and 140 pounds yeah it's good to have a nerd on the team that kicks i just wanted people to know because if blake groupie misses a kick that's something that would piss me off if i bet on the colts and then blake groupie misses a kick you're like wait what the fuck how's he on this team yeah so that could that could sneak up on you it could be warned we also have um i i mean liam cohen coach of the year he's got to be in the running He's in the conversation.

42:18We'll have the conversation about that. I think the running is, I would say, Vrabel, Ben Johnson, Schottenheimer, Liam Cohn. I would say Steichen, too. He's got to split, at least. Yeah, I mean, the Colts. This might be the coach of the year game. I think if the Jaguars or the Colts go 2-0 against the other, then that puts them in the front. I think if they split, it goes to Vrabel or Ben Johnson. I agree with that. I think that this is leg one of the home-and-home coach of the year series. I mean, Liam Cohn's done an incredible job. Yes. He really has. There were some people in this building who were predicting the Jaguars to have four wins.

42:56But maybe Stephen Che's not wrong. I didn't say who was. Maybe he's just early like he was with the Barkley team. Yeah. When Saquon Barkley runs for 2 ,000 yards next year, what do you say then? Yeah. Like you were still early? Yeah. I was early, but then he would. If Saquon lives up to his expectations this year, I should say lives down, continues to, then next year Che should be like, I'm predicting a bounce back year for Saquon Barkley. That way, if he doesn't do it, Che will be like, he disappointed me. He disappointed me. Yeah. All right. So right now, coach of the year on DraftKings is Mike Vrabel is the favorite.

43:32Ben Johnson, Mike McDonald is third. And then Shane Steichen and Liam Cohn. Okay. So they're four or five. But I do think like a sweep, a sweep goes a long way here. Yeah, I'd agree. Okay, next game. Steelers at Ravens. Ravens minus six over under 43 and a half. This is just so the Ravens have been favored against the Steelers and this will be their fourth time, fourth straight time being favored against the Steelers. They weren't favored in three straight times before that. Like they obviously were like, you know, the last game they were. But that's how this series has gone, where it flip-flops.

44:10And as an underdog against the Ravens, Mike Tomlin is 13-4-2 against the spread as head coach of the Steelers. It's the dog bowl, though. It's the dog bowl. The underdog is 24-7-3 when Mike Tomlin faces Jim Harbaugh. Right. But this also feels like the most heat that Mike Tomlin's ever been under. Depends to hate noise, which is very funny. He had to address that because Big Ben said it on his podcast as well. Footballing with Big Ben. Yeah, football. What's so funny about that rumor is that if Penn State gets Mike Tomlin, they would essentially be saying like, hey, you know what we could really use as a coach that never really gets to the top but always has us in the conversation.

44:50Yes. And then Pittsburgh, if Penn State wants your coach so bad, I almost feel like that would make the owners of the Steelers say, wait, they just fired a guy for always being close to the top, and now they can't hire one and now they miss having that guy. Yes. And they want my guy. That would make me afraid of getting rid of Mike Tomlin. Yes. Like, what's going to happen after? Is Brian Hartline going to turn me down too? Yeah. Yeah, you might be out in the woods. Yeah. This game, though, I want to take the Steelers, but I just don't. I feel like they're just so bad and they're so unimaginative.

45:29And now we have Mike Tomlin's sons trying to fight Jersey Jerry. that feels like a loss of focus in the locker room possibly but counterpoint it was aaron rogers birthday this week 42nd birthday and did you see the report from jerry dulac he said aaron rogers had his receivers tight ends and running backs to his house tonight to watch film and go over plays ben skoranek brought a decorated cake oh wow and the players saying happy birthday to rogers who turned 42 on tuesday okay that feels like players only meeting birthday party yeah a birthday party that becomes a players only meeting aaron rogers had a birthday party slash players only meeting yes which i don't i don't know if that's ever been done before yeah so i i don't know i i feel like this might gel the offense a little bit it could be they might go he might explode for like 200 yards and throw the ball 15 yards down the field let's not get crazy i did like mike tomlin's quote on um marlon humphrey he called him the poster child for their turnover culture okay yeah Ravens turnover culture that's good turnover culture it's very important um did you know that Asante Samuel Jr he's on the Steelers now they lead the league in in sons I believe uh his dad has a podcast Asante Samuel Sr has a podcast I didn't know that it's called say what needs to be said which is a great name for a podcast that should be a segment on this show uh and his dad's been talking shit about dk about dk metcalf already he he hasn't even really he hasn't played a game for the steelers yet and his dad's already we got all the dads in the nfl just they can't stop stirring up shit yeah he said dk's a non-factor he's most of the problem at the end of the day aaron rogers needs somebody to throw to he's used to having elite receivers that can get open dk can't provide that for aaron and dk is the reason that aaron rogers is looking so old okay i mean strong strong words from your dad yeah i don't know how that's gonna that's gonna sit with dk he doesn't see he might this actually might mode i'm gonna trust asante samuel senior yeah he's been enough good locker rooms he might be actually trying to coach the team dk i mean it has been just really bad to watch really bad really bad to watch did mike thompson talked about that so he had two good quotes one was someone asked him what is it like for you personally when the fans are calling for you to go he said in general i agree with them so mike thomas he's got the fans back and then he said about finding the answers in the building he said those same ingredients have produced six wins as well as six losses and so it's about how we cook it this week same ingredients different chef but how we cook it this the problem is it's the same chef every week so you're saying you're saying that the same chef Correct.

48:18Varies week to week in how he prepares the recipe. I would like to see something out of the Ravens because I do not think the Ravens, Lamar Jackson, something's been off. Their defense has obviously looked a lot better. But if the Ravens are going to start being taken for real, they should pound the Steelers. They should. They should, but Lamar. But Mike Thomas. There's something wrong. You're right. There's something wrong with Lamar because he's not running. Yeah. He just looks off. He hasn't run the ball. he's averaged three yards per carry since his hamstring injury. Yeah. And something's up.

48:52And he has not had a run of over 20 yards all year. Pretty crazy for Lamar Jackson. Pretty crazy. We're talking about. Obviously he hasn't played a lot of the year, but yeah. Right. But that's still, that's crazy that Lamar has not had a 20 yard run this season. Agreed. Agreed. I'm going to probably end up taking the Steelers. I'm going to bet the Steelers. Fucking hate it. I fucking hate it. This is the exact situation where you have to bet the Steelers. Yes. I hate it. Okay, next up. Seahawks, seven and a half point favorites over the Falcons over under 43 and a half. Did you know Sam Darnold has been a favorite of six points or more ten times as a starter in the NFL?

49:30He's 10 and 0 straight up, eight and two against the spread in those games. Did not know that. That's pretty crazy. I did not know that. That one shocked me a little bit because if you told me, like, oh, Sam Darnold is an eight point dog, I thought it was going to be reverse. He doesn't cover. But the Seahawks defense is very, very good. Sam Darnold did not look great last week against the Vikings. But he also didn't really, the game flow there didn't really ask him to do a lot. No, he didn't have to. They've been in a lot of those games. But they also, that's the thing that when you watch that game from last week, he didn't have to make too many throws.

50:02They dominated. But the Vikings also did a pretty good job defensively against him. It's kind of the two sides of the same coin. So the Vikings, they blitzed them 18 out of 30 dropbacks, so that's 60 % of the time. They normally blitz 48 % of the time. And the Falcons, they blitz the second most in football. They blitz usually at 36 % of the time. So my guess is they're going to blitz them like half the time this weekend, and we'll see. I don't think that the Falcons are good enough as a whole on offense. Well, it's the Seahawks defense is better. Did you know that Seahawks defense in terms of so obviously the overall defense we'll have to see after the season.

50:43But in a seven game stretch, they have actually played better in a seven game stretch this year than the best seven game stretch of the Legion of the Boom. I did not know that. They're playing lights out football. Yeah, they're awesome. And they are the best team in football against the spread. And they have the best point differential in all football, too. And Jackson Smith, the jig, but did not have a good game last week. So I feel like he's going to have a good game this week. And Kirk Cousins. All the respect in the world to Kirk Cousins. But he is old and he's playing against a really good defense.

51:11Yeah, all the respect in the world to Kirk Cousins. All respect in the world. I hope he gets another contract. I hope he earns a half billion dollars. I want Kirk Cousins to come to this office and play some hoops with us. Remember he said that? Yeah. That would be fun. Kirk Cousins would be a great hang. I do think Kirk Cousins actually would be pretty good in media just because he's a likable guy. Yeah. And he can make fun of himself a little bit. He'd be like the best assistant principal you ever had. Ever. the also Mike McDonald on the road good yeah Seahawks in general very good on the road right now yes okay do we so what are we gonna do with the TVs are we gonna go we're gonna really go Steelers Ravens the middle TV for Jerry I think or should we just say fuck it Bengals Bills yeah Bengals I think we got to go Bengals Bills yeah in the middle yeah uh and then if it's close we We can make some switch-ups.

52:00Because we have some obvious bottom TVs. Yeah. And that's one of the next games. Titans at Browns. Browns minus four and a half. Over or under is 33 and a half. I just don't understand how you can have Shadour Sanders four and a half point favorite. I know the Titans are really bad. Yeah. I mean, did you watch them last week? It was very, very ugly. And they usually - No, it's Cam Ward's worst game. They usually do pretty good against the Jaguars at home, no matter what's going on with the Titans. But yeah, this is TV number six for us. I think we're going to have it on. seven maybe seven put it over on the side tv that is titans usually live yeah um but yeah deshaun watson the window's open the window is open the six the six worst words in sports deshaun watson has entered the window uh now i i think that shador doesn't have anything to worry about this season they want to see what they got in them yes and uh they'll they'll give him a pretty long leash for the rest of the year and i think i figured out shador because we talked about it a little bit on monday of how like i don't really i said i didn't really understand how polarizing shadour was because i and i know that he is polarized yeah but i think the most controversial parts of shadour sanders are actually not shadour sanders it's what other people say about shadour sanders yes i think as far as like a personality goes and a player goes he's like a pretty normal starting quarterback yep he's cocky but i think like every starting quarterback coming into the league they have to have this almost irrational belief in themselves so chador is nothing different his dad obviously rubs people the wrong way other people love dion and that gets transferred on a chador but as a guy goes i don't i don't think that chador is the reason it's everybody else talking about chador i think he's partially the reason i mean he said i'm him he said he he before he said the brown this is what the browns have been waiting for i wouldn't say chador isn't he's not completely he's cocky yeah he's cocky he's very cocky but the league is filled with cocky guys of course but he's cocky he hasn't done anything but he has he has a unique ability to to make people crazy yes but i i would i would put a little bit on chador his answers are a little and i i listen i like having chador in the league and i think that it's it's good entertainment but he's it's not like he's i mean remember he did the interview where he didn't say a word yeah that was pretty funny yeah like he's doing some things that are that are worthy of of of being a lightning rod yeah a little bit yeah i don't think it's just his dad he's not he's not completely absolved of it but the the conversations around shador are are by far the most controversial part about him yeah for sure for sure i mean what was it what was the uh kendrick perkins he said the most important the important most important black man since Barack Obama.

54:53Yep. That's Shador Sanders. That's such that's an awesome take. He can't cover four and a half. Kenny. I think the defense might. Can he cover four and a half? Maybe the defense can. I just I four and a half is a lot. That's just that's a lot. Yeah. Hank. I mean, no one should bet this game is really what the what the answer is. I'm betting it. this game is I'm betting the over I'm taking the under you're seeing okay this is just a you're going to Dusty slash Brown's defense yeah mostly Miles Garrett yeah I don't know when it totals that low you need one punt return one defensive touchdown and you're in it big time but you could also yeah but also just the game could suck and there could be no points of course yeah hey that's gambling yeah I don't see a word.

55:50How can the Titans score more than 10 points in this game? How can the Browns score more than 10 points? Fumbles. Yeah. Sack. I mean, how could they score more than 10 points? I think the roadmap is you get one touchdown off a strip sack by Miles Garrett. Maybe a muffed punt from the Titans. You get possession at like the five-yard line. Quinshawn Judkins gets the ball and the Wildcat runs it in. We're up to 14 points. I also just figured out Shadur Sanders could just throw three picks in his own territory. That's how the Titans score more than 10 points. That's easily how the Titans score more than 10 points.

56:29Listen, I'm not saying that I'm confident the Titans are going to cover. I'm more saying that it's just crazy the Browns are four and a half point favorites. If there were two and a half points, I'd be like, okay, yeah. Even then, this should just be a pickle because who the fuck knows what's going to happen? But you're going to bet the Browns. I'm going to think about betting the Browns, but I'm going to take the under. Okay. Next game. Commanders at Vikings. Vikings minus one and a half over under 41 and a half. Is Jaden Daniels playing? I still don't know. I don't think that he is, but he might.

57:02Okay. So I put it like I'm at like 60 % that he's not going to play. Are you worried about nine? I think that this defense for the Commanders is not as good as what we saw. We had a nice little burst of energy against the Broncos last week. We also have to remember the Broncos play every single game on the road, especially close. Yes, yes. And I think that the defense has not been fixed. There's been no major personnel reassignments or anything like that. Dan Quinn is in charge of calling the defense, which I think it does make a difference, but I still think that the problems that we have are going to be the problems moving forward for the team.

57:37I think nine might light us up this week. I actually think this might be where you want to buy some nine stock. I think this is the perfect time. I'm going to buy some nine stock this week. You know what? I think nine might go off. Really? I think he might throw for 300 this weekend. Do you? No way. 300? Against the commander's defense? 300? Yeah. Do you, if Jaden Daniels is healthy, you want him to play or no? All right, so I keep going back and forth on it. Big picture. Yeah. Imagine he gets hurt. Yeah, but that's, then why play football? I understand. That's why I'm saying big picture. Yeah, yeah.

58:13Big picture, if he gets hurt, I'm going to be like, why the fuck was Jaden Daniels playing in this game? And going into next year, I'm going to be just thinking bad thoughts about Dan Quinn and the Commanders. Counterpoint, good football players want to play football when they're healthy. Correct. And there is something to be said for competing and for winning games down the stretch that don't mean anything. Build momentum to next year. Build momentum into next year. and I really enjoy watching Jaden Daniels play football. And I haven't gotten to see him play that much with Terry on the outside and a relatively healthy offensive line.

58:52So big picture, I do not want to see Jaden Daniels play. Small picture, I would really like to see Jaden Daniels play this weekend. You just got to look at Joe Burrow. Yeah. That was the same thing of why is Joe Burrow playing in this game and then you have that big win and it's like, oh, okay, this is fun. This is meaningful football to the fans. Yeah. And you're building off something to go into next year. You've got to want your guy to play. If he's fully, he has to be 120 % healthy. 120%. 120%. That's a lot of percent healthy. I have a blind resume for you guys. Okay. Okay. All right. So both quarterbacks have played exactly 251 plays at quarterback this year.

59:28Quarterback one is 19th in EPA for play, 15th success rate, 10th in CPOE, second in ADOT. What are those? ADOT is? A-Dot is average depth of target, meaning their short throws jump down. CPOE is completion percentage over-expected, meaning like they're putting the ball on the money. So give us those numbers again. 19th EPA, 15th success rate, 10th in CPOE, 2nd in ADOT. Player B, 26th in EPA, 20th success rate, 32nd in CPOE, which is completion percentage over-expected, meaning like they're accurate, putting the ball on the money. 23rd in ADOT Who would you rather have as your quarterback? It matters though who they're playing around Like who's on the team A lot of that has to do with drops Well it's the same team Oh, okay Who's player A?

1:00:21Who would you rather at quarterback? I think I'm going to take player B Okay The one that's worse than all the stats I'd much rather have player B Okay, who are these players? Player A is Marcus Mariota Player B is Jane Daniels All right Oh, yeah, Jaden So yeah, you want to lose That makes sense. I want Jaden. You want to lose. You want to tank. So you want the player that's had worse stats this year. I've got another blind resume for you. But this is a different spin on the blind resume. So normally with blind resume, you don't get the names and you get the stat. And you have to pick. Yeah. Yeah, that's how you normally do a blind resume.

1:01:00That's how we just did it. Yeah, I'm doing a reverse blind resume. so I'm going to give you the names and then you try to figure out what stat is missing from what all these names have in common okay Deshaun Kaiser Tim Tebow Zach Mettenberger Desmond Ritter Dan Orlovsky JP Lossman Christian Ponder what stat is missing right-handed quarterbacks no they're not all right-handed Tim Tebow I think I know. Hank, do you have a guess? winning percentage above 50 percent deshaun kaiser what deshaun kaiser i'm saying that none of them have it uh no that's not the set that they all have in common i guess 20 below 50 they're all browns quarterbacks not all of them nope nope do you want me to guess yeah i think they may have all thrown for 300 yards they all have thrown for 300 yards in a football game in the NFL.

1:01:59All those guys. Deshaun Kizer. Johnny Football. We got a stat off. Tim Tebow. Mettenberger. This should be a segment. Ritter. Everyone comes with a hate stat. Yeah. Insult stat. Trivia time. I'm actually surprised. BFD has been walking around just giving this stat to everyone. We're on a bye. Who cares? You thought about it so intended. We are talking about Commanders Vikings. Big Cat thought about this for like 15 minutes. He was trying to put together a real answer. Dude, it's not that hard. And I was like, oh, shit. It was like, what is the one thing that PFT is researching these days? They all played in shit.

1:02:34All right. Well, listen, if you watch Commanders football and you think that Marcus Mariota is a better quarterback than Jane Daniels, you should have your head examined. Well, that's not what Hank said. He just said the stats. Yeah, yeah. I just go by the numbers. Yeah. You just go. Listen, I'm just going by the numbers. Which you do, too, with the 300-yard thing. You just go by the numbers. Numbers never lie. Yeah. We got a stat off. Good stat off. Hank's not blinking on it. I'm not blinking on my stat, big boy. I like your stat because it's like you're going to have nothing else soon enough, and you know that.

1:03:02Don't be so sure. Yeah, he might. I think BFD will be able to find something else. Yeah, listen, Drake may be having great – It's also like when he does it in the playoffs, it's just going to be pure. Yeah, so the other stat could be like how many playoff wins does your quarterback have. Right. Marcus Mayer definitely has a playoff win. He's got one. Yeah. Yeah. But, yes, when it comes down to it, I would rather see Jaden Daniels play, Even though it makes no sense for his health and where we're at in the season. I don't care. I like watching him play football. He's awesome. Do you have anything to say, though, for Marcus Mariota playing better than Jaden Daniels this year?

1:03:36Yeah, if you've watched the tape, that's 0 % chance that any NFL general manager would take Mariota over Jaden Daniels. No, no, that's not what I said. I'm not saying he takes Jaden Daniels over. I'm not saying he takes Marcus Mariota over Jaden Daniels. That Marcus Mariota has played better this year. the jay i think you could look at a couple games on there one specifically against the raiders and say that if jayden daniels had played against the raiders he probably would have gone off against them because that's the one that's bringing mario to stats up is that game mario to just lit up the broncos best defense excuse me mario ta mario ta played well against 30 seconds cpoe completion what is that one again completion percentage over expected meaning they're putting the ball on the money.

1:04:22Yeah, what is completion percentage over-expected, meaning that's a run after the catch? No, I think it's... No, it's like they're like... That's a pass that's not expected to be completed. Yeah. He's making it. Okay, yeah. Well-defended. So I would also... You need to put the ball on the money, and Jaden Daniels does not do that. I would also imagine that has a lot to do with Terry not really playing with him. With who? With Jaden. He didn't play with Marcus either, right? No, Terry's played with Marcus, yeah. Just this last week. A few times. He had, well, those two catches against the Chiefs, I would imagine, helped out significantly with that.

1:04:58He had some great catches against the Broncos this week. He did have those catches against the Chiefs. Those were nice. Yeah. Okay, so are you worried about nine? I'm very worried about nine. Nine's been hearing for the past two weeks how much he sucks. And I think this is a different mindset that we're going to get. This might be nine week. Yep. This might be nine week. okay the uh second to last early game dolphins jets memes i think you guys are gonna win this game me too it's gonna be a fun game i have one other stat about about nine real quick okay all right so um this is what cbs put out so if you put nine up against every first round quarterback since 2016 that that played in the first two seasons uh mccarthy's first six starts have him 34th out of 35 quarterbacks in epa per drop back 32nd in completion percentage 34th in turnover worthy throws and dead last with interceptions and passer rating okay uh so there's one quarterback that overall ranks worse on the list in epa per drop back do you know who that would be how many years this is over their first two seasons and but how many years back does it go uh since 2016 i don't know it's jared goff oh so things can turn around things can turn so maybe we're just now might be a great time like you said to buy stock in the nine market i mean it can't be as bad as brasmer can't be you can't that was probably the best thing to happen to him right right that's got all the confidence in the world yep being like hey look i can actually throw the ball okay dolphins and jets jets are two and a half point underdogs it's over under 40 and a half i like the jets this weekend memes i do i really do i would like the jets if it was colder how cold is it gonna be 40 42 degrees that's light wind that's cold enough to uh i believe the stat is under 46 degrees he's 0 and 7 lifetime i think this is gonna be a back and forth game i see i we we predicted the dolphins would obviously have this little run because they've played absolutely nobody.

1:07:14And I do think the Jets are playing they're playing spirited football. They're playing hard, right? Right. They're trying hard. Counterpoint here. The Dolphins are a team that love screens. Jets don't defend well against screens. Oh, that's not good. So A-chain? A-chain. Probably Darren Waller. How do you pronounce A-Chain? I think that's right. People were saying I was wrong. I've heard A-Chain. A-Chain. That's right. I've heard A-Chain, too. A-Chain. Is this the first ever Capri Bowl between coaches? Well, they already played. Right. But the first match, the only match. Yeah, because I think we brought it up when they played last time.

1:08:02Yeah, the only matchup that has Capri's. Yes. I don't know if they'll both be Capri's with 40-degree weather, though. If you're about that life, be about that life. Yeah, I'm hoping that, yeah, McDaniels, sometimes he'll do like the fisherman pants. Like the kid in Christmas Story. Yeah. Just get all bundled up. I kind of like the, I don't know. I just, I think we're, Jets are fighting. Also, Terod Taylor is 63 % in his career against the spread. That's what he does. He covers spreads. I love that. That's pretty crazy. I do like the Jets here. I feel like they're playing aggressive memes. Are you wearing your new jerseys?

1:08:42Yes. It's rivalry week. And the field is going to look weird. It's going to look cool. I would go weird. I think cool. I think weird is more like it. No, it's definitely cool. All right, Hank and PFT, you be the judge. Is this weird or cool? Weird. I say cool. The middle is weird. I say cool means the end zones are very cool. The end zones are cool, but the middle of the field is weird. It looks like the Gotham City Jets. Yeah. That looks like a fighter jet right there, PNP. It's Gotham Jets. What looks like a fighter jet? The middle? The one in the middle. It's a jet. What kind of plane is that?

1:09:15On the middle of the field? Yeah, that's some type of plane. That's like the plane from the beginning of Top Gun. Are you talking about the B-2? You're talking about the experimental SR-72. Yeah. That's what you're talking about. No, Hank, because the tail fin on that is way too big. Got it. Way too big. It also looks like a slipper. It kind of If you turn it sideways It's art It's art You guys don't appreciate art I see the slipper I definitely see the slipper Yeah it's definitely a slipper Could be a spaceship It's like a spa slipper Yeah Yeah like super thin bottom It's a free spa slipper Yeah So what are the uniforms though They're like They're black I think I don't know No, they're a shade of green.

1:10:07Oh. Oh, they're dark green, right? Yeah, dark. Pulled up? Yeah, those are like black, almost black. Okay. They're green to almost black. I don't love the uniforms. I think they're cool uniforms, too. Don't let them talk to you like this, memes. These are cool uniforms. I just don't like the Jets. P.A.T. hates the Jets. I don't like that logo. I think the uniforms are cool. The logo is weird. The slipper logo. And so are the Dolphins also wearing rivalry? No, they already wore those. Okay, so it's a one-sided rivalry. Oh, that kind of sucks. You got to get the... Well, no, you actually would rather have the Dolphins wear their candy-ass uniforms.

1:10:41Yeah. In the cold. So Dolphins are going to be wearing white. Candy-ass. I like the Jets. I still do. Yep, same. I love the Jets memes. You hate them. You know that about me. You hate them. I don't know where the PFT hates the Jets narrative got started with memes, but I love it. PFT commenter. Pro Football Talk commenter. Jets. Comes from... Gotcha. Pro Football Talk. Friends with Diana Rossini. You see the three letters. Systematic Florioism. You have to admit that you are close to at least a lot of Jets haters. I'm a well-known associate of two of the biggest Jets haters. You might not be a made man in the Jets hater mafia, but you're out on the street earning.

1:11:23I'm a friend of theirs. You're getting brought in on a Rico case. Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah, you're getting locked up with all of them. But I'm going to rat on them. When the Jets are at the top of the league and memes puts everyone in jail, you're going to jail. That's the thing, though. I'll show you how close I am because I'm going to flip. Did anyone watch Cocaine Quarterback? No. Did you watch the Philly Mob Wars? No. Oh, so good, dude. Watch it. You guys should watch Cocaine Quarterback. I think you should watch Philly Mob Wars first. All right. Well, I'll watch that. No, you have to watch that before I watch the Cocaine Quarterback.

1:11:52You probably know the cheesesteak guy. Yeah. Joey Merlino. Skinny Joe. I know someone associated with him. Oh, you do? You can't count in a do. No. Okay. You know someone who knows someone? Well, I just threw, like, Instagram DMs. Uh-oh. Oh. Uh-oh. Okay. Be careful. Watch it. It's really good. I will watch it. Yeah. Okay. Saints hit Bucs. Bucs minus 8.5. Over under 48, 2.5. I don't care about this game. Bucs are going to win. I kind of like the Saints against the spread, though. Really? Yeah, it's a lot of points. Rivalry game. The Bucs haven't looked that great recently. Kim Jordan. Tyler Shuck doesn't look bad.

1:12:38Yeah. Kim Jordan said it's always playing here, retiring, talking about his future. But maybe it's not. Okay. All right. I don't really know what that means. He kind of surprised himself on that. Yeah. Well, he thought about it more. Yeah. And he's like, wait, my agent's going to kill me. It would be nice to not be here right now. Yeah. Yeah. I think the Bucs are going to win this game. They're in the must-win, especially these type of games. And the Saints are just a bummer. The Saints owners are going to be on the list of bad owners that we're going to call out. I think it's good. See, this is some Tyler Shuck throws.

1:13:17Yeah. He's not playing that bad. No, he throws a nice ball. He's throwing the ball really well. His second half last week against the Dolphins was good. I'm skeptical about the Bucs until I see Baker play a game where he looks like he's healthy. And then once that happens, I'm going to be like, yeah, the Bucs are for real. He didn't look unhealthy last week. Yeah, but he hasn't really looked like himself that much recently. No. Look at that dart. If he gets healthy, yeah, the Bucs are, they should blow out a team like the Saints. But I think for now, eight and a half points is a lot of points.

1:13:48Yeah. Okay. Broncos minus seven and a half Raiders over under 40 and a half. There's another one I just don't. I don't know. I feel like I've tried to talk myself. The Broncos do play every game close, but the Raiders are an abomination to football. So I can't take the Raiders, but I also don't want to take the Broncos minus 7.5. I mean, it's an important game. Yeah, the Broncos are going for the 1 seed. So if the Broncos win, that would put them ahead of the Patriots, which is they go down to the two different, I think this would be the third level of tiebreaker. I think it's in conference. so it's going to be um they might have to go to common opponents and the broncos would be six and oh against the common opponents that they have yeah and uh the patriots lost to the raiders in week one so this is actually it's pretty important for the seating um yeah the broncos i don't think that they're like they don't stand out as being an awesome team because they play such close games and they need like fourth quarter comebacks and they do stupid stuff every now and again but I don't see the Raiders being the team to stop them.

1:14:57This is one of those games where it's impossible because every sign points to just take the points because the Broncos played an overtime game, Sunday night football. They have not been impressive on the road. They've won games close margin, but then on the other side, it's the Raiders, and they're truly just horrific to watch. Yeah, this is the mild interesting stat of the week. Oh, nice. Do you know who has the most pass interference calls against them in the entire NFL? Mahomes. No, I mean, like from cornerback. Oh. Defensively. Defensively. Against them. Yeah. Riley Moss. Riley Moss is number one by far.

1:15:39Whoa. He's got, I believe, seven. Next closest guy has four. I can't say that that was smart that I guessed that. I just did the deductive reasoning of it's probably a Bronco. Yep. And it's not Sertan. Smart. at first I saw that stat I was like is this reverse racism against Riley Moss he's being targeted more for playing cornerback in the same neighborhoods and they're like that guy he stands out like if you're driving a red car down the street you get pulled over for speeding more often yeah but then I dug deeper is that true that's what I've heard okay I'll believe it do you know because you have two red cars it is yeah it's a great excuse though like that's why the red light camera it's not my fault Yeah.

1:16:21It's my color. This fucking color. Do you know who has the least amount of pass interference? Is that Patrick? No, it's actually Cooper to Gene. Oh, so my thesis was immediately proved incorrect on that one. Okay. But mild, interesting stat. Riley Moss, most pass interference calls. But as we've learned, it's not always a bad thing if you're getting PIs. No. Because it means that you're close enough to touch the guy. Yeah. It means maybe the refs suck. Yeah. okay Bears Packers also shout out Alex Singleton we talked about him had had a ball removed I think really yeah he had testicular cancer yeah they thought that he tested positive for steroids oh that's spiked but he actually it was because he had to testicular that's insane eagle for life so he had surgery came back what like four weeks later that's crazy and then actually had the second most important hand on his ball of his career when he broke up that pass to Zach Ertz Yeah.

1:17:19That's crazy. What a beast. Baller. Yeah, baller. Singular. Okay, Bears and Packers. Packers minus 6.5 over under 44.5. Do you guys have any thoughts on this game? Can't wait. I'm excited for this game. Yeah. Very excited for this game. This is a big one. Are you scared? That's my question. I know your thoughts about the Bears. I know where you sit on them. You believe in Ben Johnson. You believe in the direction the team's going. Are you scared? Okay, so I've done something here where I'm going to pour some cold water on myself for my excitement for the Bears, and then I'll tell you my answer.

1:18:02But I'm just going to give you some stats first. Okay. So these are just – I basically, like, last night I was getting ready for the show, and I was like, I'm going to scare myself as much as possible. And it's not hard to scare yourself when you look up Bears and Packers stats. This is pretty much the first time that both teams have been good at the same time. And that's the Bears' fault more than anything, obviously. The 2018 year when the Bears were good, the Packers were not. But it's the first time that they're both good in like 15 years. So here are the scare me stats. In December, Matt LaFleur coached teams have been dominant.

1:18:38They're 20-4 straight up and 13-10 against the spread. So Matt LaFleur becomes a really good coach down the stretch. Jordan Love, Toyotathon, they all talk, all Packers fans, when Toyotathon starts, Jordan Love gets really, really good. So in the first 10 weeks of the season, Love and the Packers are 12-13-1 straight up from week 11 on. He's 15-7 as a quarterback. And then here's the one that's really scary. The Bears, obviously I've talked about it at length, the live and die on the takeaways. They are plus 17 through 12 games, the best mark in the NFL by eight turnovers. So the Bears have 17 interceptions, the most in the league, and they're plus 17 on turnovers.

1:19:24The only team since 2000 with 17 plus interceptions and plus 17 turnover margin through 12 games. They've been very boom or bust. Five out of six have lost their first playoff game. The six were the 2007 Patriots, who obviously had a very good team overall. This is all the cold water. I think the Bears can win this game. I'm not scared. You're not scared. I'm not scared. And I'm also going into this game thinking, in a very reasonable fashion, maybe it's I'm getting older. I went to sleep at 8.30 last night. I was just tired. That's excellent. Well, when it's 4.30, it feels like it's 9. Yeah, it was just 8.30 came around, and the Badgers were playing Northwestern, and they were up by 25, eight minutes in the game.

1:20:09And I was like, you know what? I'm going to pull the plug. I'm going to bed. So maybe I'm just getting old, but I've had a calmness, and maybe it's Ben Johnson. The Bears play the Packers in two weeks. We got to split them. So I'm going into this game. I actually think the Bears can win, and if they lose, I'm not going to freak out. what if they kicked the shit out of you? Not going to freak out. You need to split them. Would you rather win game one, lose game two, or lose game one, win game two? Good question. Defend home field. Although there is a part of me. Packers fans will deny this. The pressure's on the Packers.

1:20:49They are the all-in team with Micah Parsons' trade. They traded draft capital. They were supposed to be one of the best teams in the league. They have started to look like that. The Bears are a quintessential year-early type of team right now where it's been so much fun, but I don't think anyone expected them to be in the beginning of December sitting at the one seed. Yeah, I think that the Packers, it's also smart for you to say that you'd rather win the one at home because if you lose this one, then you're like, it's going according to plan. We just have to win at home. And plus, that would be more leading into the playoffs.

1:21:24So you feel better about that. But the Packers, on paper, are a better team, but they haven't played that. There have only been a couple games this season where they've put it all together. And two of those are against the Lions, where they've looked really, really good. So I don't hate the Bears to cover this weekend. I mean, we can run the ball. Devontae Wyatt being out for the Packers is a very big deal in their run stopping. I just, yeah, Jordan Love could look awesome. Jordan Love could do what he did last week against the Lions. And that will be a problem. But we have gotten healthier on the defense.

1:21:55our secondary is a lot healthier i think the bears can win this game i really do all i'm not gonna bat i'm not gonna i know that like if the packers win this game i can't then be like oh i didn't think no i think the bears can win this game all time the the packers have 108 wins against the bears that's tied for the most in nfl history do you know who else is tied for the most against the Bears? One franchise against another franchise.

1:22:26I did not know this. Is this a Jets hate stat? No, it's not. No, I don't hate the Jets. What's the stat? It's a self-hate stat. Oh, it's Cowboys commanders? No, it's the Giants and the commanders. Oh! Yeah, the New York Giants. Whoa. Pretty crazy. I think the Bears can win this game. I do. It's going to be hard. The Packers are a very good team, but I think they can win this game. And I have reshifted my focus. We have to make the playoffs. I said that. We have to make the playoffs. If you don't make the playoffs, it's an utter disaster. But I also, I'm not pretending that I think that we're the best team in the NFC.

1:23:02I said it on Monday. I'm at a point now where I am not scared of any team in the NFC, which is a great mentality to have where it's like, I think the Bears can compete with every single team in the NFC. Yeah, well, put it this way. You guys just beat the shit out of the Eagles. Oh, the goalposts have moved, by the way. The Eagles are now the worst team ever and the worst offense ever is what they're being called. Well, it's crazy. Well, the worst offense ever. That one is fair. But their defense was thought of as one of the best defenses in the league. So, transit property, you beat the Eagles.

1:23:32Eagles beat the Packers. Yeah. 10-7. Yeah. In Lambeau. In Lambeau. In Lambeau. I'm excited for this game. Now, there's one thing that's making me a little nervous is, remember, Ben Johnson, maybe the only mistake. I don't even want to say it's a mistake because we don't know what's going to happen on Sunday. But he did take that shot at Matt LaFleur in his opening press conference. He started a fight. And they don't know each other. He started a fight. And Matt LaFleur is a very good coach. And I'm a little nervous about that where Matt LaFleur is like, I don't fucking forget that shit. I would say two things.

1:24:00People who rarely make mistakes when presenting themselves in open to the media. You had Ben Johnson just start a fight with a guy. And then you had Dan Katz say to Matt LaFleur, you're a pussy. Yep. you did do that that was by accident you did you did call him a pussy that was by accident but you called the man a pussy i did but that was i wanted to say on the record that was by accident because like like we were lucky enough on this show to get to know different people in the sports world and we know matt lafleur well enough and i've talked to him enough and you know had a beer with him and felt comfortable enough calling him a pussy afterwards i was like that was kind of crazy that you called the NFL head coach a pussy.

1:24:44Do you think that he's thought about you calling him a pussy? Probably not, knowing him. Do you think that after the game, if the Packers win, he will then think or be reminded about him? I don't know. I should call you a pussy. I think I did apologize to him. I think you did on the spot. Yeah, I think I did. That was a crazy move. It was a heat check moment. The next show. The next show. There was an apology. It was a heat check moment. It'd be a real shame if John Kuhn was listening to this podcast like he does from time to time and let Matt LaFleur know about Pussygate. Well, no, he does, though, because I called him it to his face.

1:25:15Yeah, but just remind him. Yeah. That would be very funny if he addressed it. Oh, man. See, I'm excited for this game because I'm not going in being like, we have to win. We just have to, like, the Bears just one game at a time. Let's fucking beat the Packers. You might be right. You might be right because the Bears didn't need to vote to ban the Tush Push or start a petition to ban the Tush Push to defeat it. You figured out. Just coming through the side door. Figured it out. Yeah, Nayshawn Wright. Okay, Rams Cardinals. Rams by 7.5 over under 48.5. Similar to Matt LaFleur, Sean McVay in December is very good at coaching football.

1:25:53He's 26-11 straight up in the month of December, winning eight in a row outright entering this year. I do like the Rams in this game because I just feel like that was a bad, everything went bad type of game last week in Carolina. You'll get the best effort. yeah i think that if there's a guy that can go get over a loss it's probably matt stafford he's had some experience with that loss is like you know he dealt with enough when he was in detroit where like one bad game isn't going to fuck him up i think i didn't see anything from matt stafford last week that made me think is there something wrong yeah like i didn't think is the back hurting again for matt stafford i just thought bad game for matt stafford it happens uh There is a Matt Stafford stat that's out there that we're on watch now.

1:26:36And it's actually like it's a bad stat, but it's actually if you think about it long enough, it's a good stat. Matthew Stafford is second all time. Most pick sixes. He's behind Brett Favre. Matthew Stafford has 31. Brett Favre has 32. And you're like, oh, that's a bad stat. and then you realize if you throw 31 pick sixes, that means you're very, very good because you played long enough that it didn't actually matter. That a pick six doesn't define you. Yeah. The worst is a guy who threw eight pick sixes and played for two years. Like the Matt Schaub years. Yes, yes. There's a reason why I didn't stick around as a starter.

1:27:14Yeah, it's actually kind of a compliment stat that the rest of your game is so good that 31 pick sixes are completely irrelevant. So this is a great time for this game because Stafford is 14-3 against the Cardinals since he's been in – no, since 2017. So the Rams as a whole are 14-3 against the Arizona Cardinals since 2017. So they own them. So they own them. They own them, and I think that Jacoby Brissett could probably end up throwing for like 60 passes, 60 pass attempts in this game because that's their game plan. Just like let Jacoby go out there and have fun. Since week six, Jacoby Reset leads the NFL in completions, passing yards, first down, passing, 300-yard games.

1:27:56Ooh, four of them. Wow. That's a lot. Pretty good. And, yeah, he's been throwing it everywhere. Biket, do you think that Drake May could become the first MVP to not have a 300-yard game? Wait, is that true? Has there ever been an MVP? In the modern era. In the modern era. That I'm arbitrarily defining as post-Terry Bradshaw. Okay. Yeah. the modern era of football was he good won four Super Bowls pretty good I think if you look at Terry Bradshaw's stats he probably sucked in the era compared to today yeah actually look up Terry Bradshaw's stats they're probably hilarious that I don't think it's like Joe Namath no it's not Joe Namath but it definitely is not what's the most touchdowns Terry Bradshaw threw for in a year what do you guys think I'm gonna guess 30 I think he I think Terry aired it out a little bit 28 I mean, that's funny, though, to think about where we're at.

1:28:51So his best year was 28. He threw 20 interceptions that year. His best year passing was 3 ,700 yards. These are funny. He averaged 182 yards per game that year. That's awesome. Yeah. The NFL used to be very, very different. And he won MVP. He won MVP? He won MVP. Yeah, that's what I said in the post-Terry Bradshaw era. Okay. Yeah. I actually looked that stat up. Okay. Yeah. Terry Bradshaw. Very funny stat. I mean, yeah. How much time a week do you think you can think about Drake? This week was an outlier. This week, I'd say probably 20 hours. Yeah. No naps. No naps. By week. That's what I'm doing.

1:29:34It's just interesting, Hank. 20 hours. Well, we can't talk about stats on this show anymore? No, it's great. We're a stat show. We're an analytically driven podcast. I got some stats. Oh. You have more? Are you making up another acronym? Drake May is on pace to be the fourth quarterback to lead the NFL in QB win percentage, completion percentage, pass yards, and pass rating in a season. He would be the first to do so before turning 30. QB win percentage. He's 23. What's their opponent's QB win percentage? That's not the stat I read. I do QB win percentage plus. Drake May is the only player in the NFL with 200 plus passing yards in every game this season.

1:30:10Monday marked May's 10th straight game with an 80 plus pass rating and a win. tying with Hall of Famer Dan Marino in 1984 for longest such streak for a player prior to turning 24 since at least 1950. How much time have you spent this week looking into Drake May's stats? He's a good quarterback, man. Thankfully for me, I have a great stats department. You don't have to impress us. So I didn't have to spend that much time. We all agree that he's a great quarterback. Cardi B enthusiast. Points per drive defensively. How many top half of the league defenses has Drake May faced? Play who you play. I don't know the answer to that.

1:30:47Two. Okay. Who are they? The Bills are 15th. Win. The Browns are fifth. Win. You beat the Browns? Smoked them. That actually was a – I mean, the Bills win. That's the thing. Drake May has had two games, the Bills and the Bucs, where he's answered it. You can't really say anything. Are the Bills and the Bucks good? It'd be a real shame if they finish. I think the Bills in Buffalo, that's, I mean, both games on the road. It'd be a real shame if they both somehow finished under.500 this year. That's what PFT's rooting for. I don't give a fuck. We're going to be in the playoffs. It'd be a real shame.

1:31:22And then we'll show. And then you'll show. Wake me up when the playoffs start. 20 hours. No naps, Hank. PFT didn't wake me up when the draft starts. You just said you were going to take a nap for the rest of the month. Hibernation. Yeah.

1:31:39Okay, Sunday Night Football. The Houston Texans at the Kansas City Chiefs. Guys, I got to be honest. So the Chiefs are three and a half point favorites. The over is 41 and a half. I got to be honest. I'm getting a little nervous about my pinky. Everyone's kind of shitty, and the Texans might be the best singular unit of any team in the AFC. Yeah, I'd say their defense, the Browns defense. but it's hard to tell. Yeah, the Texans' defense is incredible. I like the Texans in this game. Do the Texans scare you, Hank? Yeah. Yeah, their defense is scary. Yeah, they are. Counterpoint, Andy Reid's going to tickle your tonsils.

1:32:23Yeah, that was weird. I'm going to tickle your tonsils. Is he going to throat fuck us? I've listened to Taylor Swift's album. I thought he was talking about Travis Kelsey. Ah, okay. Yeah, that was a weird quote. He's used a lot of Travis. Davis Mills would actually be the best defense against getting your tonsils tickled. I like the Texans plus three and a half in this game as well. Yeah. I am at the point where the Chiefs are still scary, but they're living off a reputation that might not be there this year. Well, you know what's crazy is last season when the Chiefs were beating everybody, winning all these close games.

1:32:59Through 12 weeks, they were 11-1. they had a point differential of only 59 this year their point differential is actually increased oh wow plus 73 point differential i don't i don't know that that means that the chiefs are a better team this year than they were last year i don't think that they are but it's interesting that given what we see on the field and like the bad vibes it's actually better than it was last year in some circumstances, but I think that the Texans are just driven right now for some reason. They've just been – I don't know. You've got to give all the credit, I guess, to D 'Amico Ryans.

1:33:39Yeah. He's done a great job, especially with the defense. And the Chiefs, they feel like this is almost – are they panicking? If they lose this game, I think it's going to be very hard for them to make the playoffs. I do think winning this game – and I went through that, the whole – like the Colts have a very tough schedule coming up. This is an elimination game pretty much for the Chiefs today. A one-sided playoff game. Yeah, because the Texans will still have a shot to win the division and then get in that way. But the Chiefs, they can't, like unless the Chargers also fall off the face of the earth, they do play the Chargers.

1:34:18But remember, they have three. The reason why I still think the Chiefs can make the playoffs is they have three games that are hard and they're all at home. They've been good at home. They play the Texans, the Chargers, and the Broncos at home. Then they have two games on the road where they've been bad. Titans and Raiders, those should be wins. So, really, the Chiefs' season kind of comes down to a three-game schedule at home. Yeah, I'm looking up the weather. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes does own the Texans. I think he hasn't lost to them since 2019. I'm looking up the weather right now for Sunday in Kansas City.

1:34:50Do we know what that's going to be? No. Okay. Because if I'm doing the visualization thing where I just picture the game being played, if I see steam coming out of every player's mouth, that feels like it's a Chiefs win. That's true. That's true. Okay. Sunday, it's going to be low of 20, high of 30. It's going to be cold. It's going to be a steam game. I am getting so nervous about my pinky. I did do some research on if Tank Dell can come back this year. I don't think he can. but that's where I'm at, where I was Googling tank Dell injury updates. Yeah. Not good. Listen, I got it wrong. I'm second guessing myself now.

1:35:31I'm thinking about, I'm just envisioning. Chiefs also have a banged up offensive line. They do. They got two guys that. But on the flip side, the biggest, I actually think if you want to point to the biggest issue for the Chiefs this year is their defense has not been able to get a pass rush. They have the worst fourth quarter defense in the league. The Texans don't have a great offensive line, So maybe they get that fixed a little bit in this game and can get the stops they need to get. So also when they, when they blitz, they're not getting sacks. So that's, yeah. I mean, they're not the same chiefs right now.

1:36:03They're just not, I'm excited for this game though. It's going to be a fun one to watch. Let's do our TD parlay. And then we will do Jerry O 'Connell's fantasy minute, which I sent you max in email. And then we'll do our picks. Draft Kings football season. just got even better. Barstool is bringing you the game of the week every single week through the end of the regular season. Here's the deal. Every Friday we'll announce a game of the week from the Sunday slate of games. When the game of the week drops, all you have to do is share a bet slip on that game with the hashtag BarstoolGOTW through X or email and you'll be entered for a shot to win one of five$1 ,000 bonus bets.

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1:38:10Pug had already posted the video, so I posted the audio and that's where we got Ladd. So Ladd was right, so I don't do 100 % sorry, but Hank and I both don't. Not 100 % sorry. Confirmed. I'm like 85 % sorry, because I did give a winner eventually. Okay. So, should we do we want to put Devontae in there or no? Is that stupid? Yeah, let's do him. I've got a plus money one. Okay. So, Devontae Adams. I mean, I can also do Trey McBride. Devontae feels safe. Yeah, this is where we screw ourselves, where now it feels like Devontae's not going to score, and then Trey McBride will. But let's do Devontae.

1:38:50And then you have who? Kareem Hunt? Mm-hmm. And then PFT? Troy Franklin. Ooh. The Broncos. Ooh. I love that. Okay. Yeah, with Troy Franklin in there, let's do Devontae. 13-1. Okay. Let's go, boys. Let's watch Jerry's Fantasy Minute And then we'll do our picks And then we'll get to Stanford Steve My first guess for this is that there's going to be music playing Okay Yep He looks like he's at a bar with a bunch of people What's up? We're at the Black Rose We're at the Black Rose We're at the Black Rose in Boston Alright, start the music, start the music at the Black Rose Say hi, everybody Alright, we only got one minute Okay, we're going to start Lane Kiffin's feet dog Because he's a real dog Way to go, Lane Kiffin We're going to sit PFT for not donating enough to JMU to find a head coach.

1:39:41He can't get any. You want to sit? He can't get any. It's not PFT. Can you blow it? You blow it. We're going to sit Drake May for not being able to throw 300 yards. He can't throw 300. We're going to start Mormons for being able to sway coaches. They're very good to keep your coaches at BYU. And we're going to sit Zach for talking about this cold weather. How's this cold weather treating you? Fucking amazing. Amazing. Amazing. Any words, any advice you want to give Hank and make him search for love? Roll a pair of balls. Roll a pair of balls, Hank. Also, call up 1-800-throw 300-yard strength, man.

1:40:20Credit to Jerry. He finds a different background every week. It's insane. A different group of boys. Yeah. He's good at this. He loves boys. He does. Oh. He does. He loves boys. Gary O 'Connell.

1:40:37let's do our picks. What's the standings at? We still don't have a punishment. We need to think of one before the season gets... We said this like two months ago. Send us ideas for punishment. Yeah, send us ideas. What about... I was actually just talking about this the other day with Nick. One of us has to model nude for a group of artists. You can cross your legs. You don't have to... I don't know about that. Show off the bits and pieces. I don't like that. I don't know about that. All right. We'll find something. Big Cat has 16. Max and I have 14. PFT has 12 and a half. Memes has 12. Zach has 10 and a half.

1:41:16Okay. Who's up first? That'd be me. Zach's got to get going. Zach, you got to get going. Otherwise, you'd be modeling nude, buddy. Let's do so many other punishments before we get naked. I mean, not for us. For a group of professional artists. I still think Outdoor Boys video would be. Zach, you got dick piercing? No, but as long as we get to keep our clothes on, I'm in. I'll go over. Bengals, Bills, 53 and a half. Fun. Okay. I am going to take the over in Rams, Cardinals, and that number is 47 and a half. Okay. I would like to take, in the Falcon-Seahawks game, the Seahawks minus seven. Okay.

1:42:00Wait, is that the line? Yep. Okay. I would like to take the Pittsburgh Steelers plus six. Okay. I'll take the Texans plus three and a half. I will take the Washington Commanders plus two and a half. And then I would like to take the over in the Titans Browns, 33 and a half. You dog, you dog. I'm going to take the over 40 and a half in the Eagles Chargers. For some reason, I believe Nick Sirianni, he says big change is coming. Drastic change. Drastic change is coming. I believe it. I don't know why. I just believe it, Max. Drastic change is coming. I'm going to take the under in the Titans Browns, 33 and a half.

1:42:49Oh, head to head. Head to head.

1:42:53Zach I would like to take the over in the Steelers Ravens game At 42 and a half Yuck I'm also going to go head to head against Hank We're going with 9 Minus 2 and a half I believe in 9 He's going to go off Yep It's a 9 game I'm going to go birds Minus 3 What did you think about Shane being there? They're going to kick the fuck out of him But Shane's going to be there We don't know that That's true We don't know that Shane might not be there because Justin Herbert might not be starting. He's going to be a royal ass kicking. Wow. Okay, let's get to our interview with Stanford Steve. Before we get to Stanford Steve, he's brought to you by our great friends over at Venmo.

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1:44:46You can see him on game day. You can hear him on the SVP pod. Bad beats everywhere. Steve, good to talk to you. Let's start with you being declared our number one dude on this show. Did you hear us declare that? Because you are. You're our number one dude. I've heard a couple mentions, but was this committee-based? A lot of talk about committees nowadays. I just want to know if it was a committee or you two at the desk. Well, we are the committee, but also if you're mad at us, we can just be like, it's the committee's decision, even though it's the two of us. You were number one, though. Your strength of schedule was the difference maker.

1:45:24Strong data points. I actually reminisced. I said one of your strongest data points was the time we went to my buddy's bar in Wrigleyville when you had a flight after the game and you brought your bag, you put it behind the bar, and then we sat down and I think you had had three beers by the time I finished my first and I was just like, what just happened? That was a strong data point. Yeah. Well, that was atmosphere driven because Wrigley's an all-time venue and your adrenaline just raises as soon as you have anything to do with it. If you're in Wrigleyville, if you're walking into the stadium, or if you're walking out of the stadium that is an all-timer so i'm i'm happy to be there but that is that's like my ultimate venue yeah like wrigley you know when you get it there is a pace you have to keep up and it's been too long and i need to get back there but that's like there's not a better venue to have intake of beers than wrigley you know summertime friday afternoon uh first pitch i want to hear your mount rushmore i want to hear mount rushmore of venues to have beers at that you get excited for um okay uh wrigley lsu oh man just because there's a mass of them i hate to sound like a homer but wando's camp randall's yeah yeah shout out it really is uh oh man i'll tell you what's a new one new seed um because that energy of that place and i'm i know you're a texas history buff bft lubbock texas brings you to a level that people people don't know the level they could go to unless they go to lubbock texas you feel you feel like you're in the middle of nowhere like there's no law around a little wild west it used to be a dry town so it felt like you were breaking the law correct but then you see everybody's on the verge of breaking the law so it's like yeah let's jump and be close to breaking the law.

1:47:26I might get hit with a tortilla later. I might not ever get a chance to drink a beer. Yeah. Yeah, I would put Lubbock there as a new one. I'm just trying. This is really hard. Scottsdale anywhere just because of temperature and you don't care about hydration. You're going to be dehydrated in the morning. Yeah. The worst is anywhere in Colorado because that hangover deal is real. It is. I'm not a gummy intake of that stuff, and I know plenty of people are out there, and I don't know if that helps you. I might see about it, but the dehydration hangover acts in your head the next morning in like Boulder and Denver, that thing is real.

1:48:13You know what? I think that improves your dude power rankings too, the fact that you're not a gummy guy. Yeah. You know that some people enjoy marijuana. You're like, I don't know, It's kind of Mickey Mouse. Yeah. Yeah. Just, I don't need my mind altered. I know what the plan is. I know what the game plan is. And yeah, we go about it that way. We take our hangovers like men. I don't need my mind altered. Okay. So that was also very like college football. You've been hanging out with Saban too much. Like I'm not one of these gummy, whatever the kids are getting into things. I'm not. Do it. I don't do it.

1:48:49I said this the other day on Scott and I's podcast. The amount – like we go to Norman, Oklahoma or like Eugene, Oregon. The amount of dispensaries. I'm like, oh, my God. Like how many different versions? Like I love fast food more than anybody. And I know, you know, I don't want to – you know, sponsorships and stuff. But like everybody has their liking. And then you're in the mood for something. But the dispensary thing is out of control. It's mayhem out there. But good to all the people that are, you know, it's great jobs for people, so good. Yeah, that's facts. All right, we want to talk both college ball and NFL.

1:49:25Let's start with college ball real quick. The committee's bullshit. Do you agree? Yes. Okay, because this whole, and we were talking about it the other night, the entire Miami-Notre Dame thing is silly. They should have just put Miami above Notre Dame this past week. They didn't. They're going to maybe sneak them in. How do you think that's going to play out in terms of who gets in, who doesn't, with what we see on Saturday? Well, I think you have a situation where neither team is playing, right? And they had one last window to make the move. and this idea of because there is a team on the line in between them that they can't compare them and make head-to-head a factor, I can't get over.

1:50:14And when you look, people want to do the metrics, okay? And I believe Miami is one spot lower in game control and strength of record and two spots lower in strength of schedule than Notre Dame, okay? And people will say, we want the best teams. And who's the better team? I'm like, well, I think they're that close. So is there anything else we could look at? Oh, yeah, they played. Okay, who won? Miami. Give me Miami. I think there's still, like, when we went to four, it was just about the best teams. Give me the best teams. And that's when we started getting people's feelings about conferences and all these other prerequisites that people sort of had or what have you, criteria.

1:51:04And that has carried over to the 12, which people look at Notre Dame in a winning streak where they haven't really played the best teams. I mean, their best win is USC. So I look at what matters on the field. We have a data point where they actually played. Miami led the whole game. Yeah. They won. I don't understand. And the biggest problem of all this, guys, is when the first rankings came out, Miami was at 18 because they had lost two of the last three weeks. And I really wonder if we'll continue to see the release of these rankings on a week-to-week basis. Because, like, March Madness, yeah, everybody's mad until that first Thursday, right?

1:51:47Yeah. Or even Tuesday when the playing games get played. Yeah, you don't even – yeah. It's almost like, all right, let's minimize the criticism. and shorten it into a window, and maybe we move the games up so the committee is out of sight, out of mind quicker than usual. It's actually less than that, and I agree with you. They need to just not have these rankings until the very end. March Madness, you get maybe like 30 minutes of Jay Billis being like, well, this team should have been in, and then we're filling out our brackets. We really don't care after the bracket is set other than the fan base.

1:52:23But, yeah, the whole thing is ridiculous. The whole thing that they can't compare them unless they're back-to-back. And also, they're the ones who decide whether they're back-to-back or not. BYU's getting kind of screwed. Alabama going up when they said the first half thing. That was so ridiculous. In your heart of hearts, who do you think is in in this grouping of, let's call it, Alabama through Miami? Alabama. Alabama's in. Yeah. And what do you think happens if BYU— What do I think they're going to do? Yeah, yeah, yeah. For the rest of it. Notre Dame. Okay. You do? Yeah, like I said, if they were going to move Miami ahead of Notre Dame, they would have did it the week where they last played.

1:53:04And Miami and Notre Dame both played last week. I don't think they're going to mess with it. Now, with them not playing, it's going to be, what, 15 days since they played? I don't see them moving. And actually, the only thing that can happen this championship Saturday, if you're just basing on on the field who's playing, is Notre Dame's resume could get better because Boise could win the Mountain West. That's the only thing that could actually happen. That's the only opponent that's playing. But if BYU loses, then that line between Notre Dame where it's a tier that they could compare them now, which they haven't for six weeks, which I just don't understand.

1:53:45The head of the committee, Hunter Juracek, he's also giving interviews after they're done doing the ranking shows. That I don't understand. I don't know why he has to go on television and try to do the 6-7 thing and make jokes and then try to be on the spot explaining his logic of why he put the teams in that he wanted to put in. Because there's going to be contradictions no matter what. And so he's putting himself out there to get grilled. He's not doing a very good job of handling it. But he did say that, number one, teams can move that are not ranked currently in the top 12. You might see one or two of those jump in.

1:54:22He did also say that if you look at two teams that are ranked next to each other, head-to-head becomes an important factor. So he said that they might look at it that way. And I think sometimes as humans, we can be so dumb, at least in his case, that when you see the two names next to each other, it becomes harder to put Notre Dame in over Miami when they're right behind them with the same record and they beat them head-to-head. Yeah. Now, I will go say this. the job that Hunter Urechek has, right, is impossible. Because go back a couple years when Florida State got left out. Boo Kerrigan, who was the NC State AD, was the spokesperson.

1:55:05He's an ACC athletic director. And he probably didn't agree that Florida State should be left out, but he had to go out there and talk because he was representing the room. So you have a person who is defending something they totally don't believe in in front of America. And to your point, they do the call. He goes on the show at Reese. Then he does a conference call after that, which is just, I mean, if you ever want entertainment, go on that thing. Because it is hell's bells, man. People coming off the rafters in that one. So it's an impossible situation. And just going back to that, is it really worth it?

1:55:43You know, I think now what do we get? The last week or first week of February or second week of February, the basketball committee comes out with these would be the top four seeds in each region. And then it's Selection Sunday. Yeah. So as much as this creates content and people talk about it and your water coolers, I don't know if anybody has their own water bottle now. We have an ice cream machine. Yeah. I heard about, by the way, a tremendous rant on the pod. About the amount of water bottles in your house. It's crazy. I don't think people who don't have kids realize that that's just what you do now is you send your kid with a water bottle to school every day, which is not something we did as children.

1:56:25And I have 100 water bottles in my house. It's fucking insane. Yeah. Stickers on all of them, Minnie Mouse, Paw Patrol, everything. All right, but go back to what you're saying. Sorry. I forget because that really gets me distracted. Yeah, it's crazy. I'm out of the house, so I try not to think about it. They have it whenever I'm in the house. That's all I stare about. You're talking about the fact that they don't release it. Yeah. Yeah. Until right before, which is smart. You're right. You're absolutely right. So last question I have about college football. Give me your teams that can win a national title that are going to be in there.

1:57:04Oh, I think it's more than we've had. Okay. I mean, let's see. Let's go down the old rankings.

1:57:17And also, side question, is it in your mind Ohio State versus the field?

1:57:26I don't believe so. I don't think Oklahoma can win a national championship. I probably will have them, though, in the first playoff game because everyone in the world will have the other side. I believe they all can. I really do. Texas Tech is a yes for me because of that defense. Now, the one factor to me with Texas Tech is the offensive line. You are not seeing premier defensive line play in the Big 12, and that's not Texas Tech's fault at all. They are playing teams who are on their schedule. I get it. But I'm really interested in that matchup again, the rematch with BYU being there for the first game.

1:58:11BYU didn't play well, but they still got to the quarterback, and they still forced Texas Tech to kick, what, five, four, five field goals? On seven red – hold on. I got red – seven red zone trips. Look at you. It was worse. He's got the stats ready to go. You got that written down like ink? Yeah. You don't even have a show today. Are you just doing this? You're just writing down notes just to read them? Seven red zone possessions, two touchdowns, five field goals. Okay. All right. So I am in the belief that Texas Tech can do it with that defense. Now, they're going to be stretched where they haven't been stretched before, which always makes anyone uncomfortable, whether you're in the stretch room or you're on the football field.

1:58:54Uh, so I look at Texas tech as being the team. I feel like everyone still has the most questions about, does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. Because you know that we've seen, I mean, they have been dominant and, you know, credit to them. I did think A &M moved too far down. I don't think they should be behind Ole Miss. Um, I didn't know if that was a sympathy move, but when we've seen a recency bias to losses by the committee, going back to when Miami was put at 18 in the first one. And that's where I have a problem with A &M. I mean, everybody watched that game Friday night. And what I thought was the best I've ever seen DKR as far as atmosphere goes.

1:59:36So I still think when you stack up A &M's resume in those wins, I don't believe they should be behind Ole Miss. What do you think about Sark and everybody in Austin that's on their soapbox now? They've become terrorists is what they've become at this point. Because Sark was like, you want to leave us out? Watch what happens. Watch what we'll do. Hope you're ready for us to schedule Rice. Get ready to watch Rice versus Texas week one, 2028, buddy. They're trying to threaten America if they don't get in. Overlooking the fact, obviously, the Florida loss and then the two overtime wins that, in my book, count as losses that they have to some bad schools.

2:00:19Are you of the mindset that even though I feel like Texas could be a team that could beat a lot of these teams in the playoff, that the ship sailed, buddy. You're out. Yeah. Yes. I don't think they have because, again, that loss at Florida. And, again, I give you all the credit. I was at that game at Ohio State. I had no idea what to think of it when I was there talking to both people that were on the stabs of both teams. They were like, we are going to be a totally different team in a month from now because they both didn't want to throw really young players with no experience in that game because it was such a high-stakes game.

2:00:54They were going to ride it out with guys that had experience, and they were going to make their adjustments after that. And Texas outgains them, loses 14-7, and the arts drama plays out from that. And Texas ultimately gets better, wins their next biggest game of the year at A &M, but I don't see a path for them because of what's in front of them. But the other side is, what else is Sark supposed to do? Yeah, you got to campaign. I understand that. You have to. I mean, and you guys are in it. We're all in it. And we have to, you know, read it and listen to it at all. And that's part of the gig.

2:01:29That's what these weeks are leading up to it. I mean, look at what Vanderbilt's doing. They're trying to play an extra game. Like, where were they going to play that? Broadway? Listen, I'll say this. I wouldn't campaign for, like, a bet that we had or trying to get a Heisman to the finish line, I wouldn't campaign at all about that. Steve, look at that. Come on. Sorry about Kyle Schwarber, big guy. Yeah, that was – yeah. Steve was the one – Max, did you know that? Steve was the one who was like, hey, bet Kyle Schwarber. Yeah, you told me that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 90-1. Steve, I want you to look at me.

2:01:59Do I look like a man that would openly campaign for my college to get into the college football playoff? Is that what you see when you look at me? Come on. We're better than that. I look at you being – I mean, you look so good in Duke Blue Devil. Yeah, see, that's the one thing. That's the one thing. That's the one data point. That's your loss to Northern Illinois, the fact that you're part of the brotherhood and you're a Duke fan. It always pisses me off. Your biceps looking – I mean, the forearms. It's great. People always talk about Carolina Blue. Even your neck. Your neck. I mean, you've been doing manual neck or just going to the neck machine?

2:02:37Get the old hammer neck machine out? I've been eating a lot, and that works out the neck muscles, yeah. Soup season. No, we've started – we call our Sunday Super Bowl Sundays here, every Sunday. So it's nice. All right, so let's talk about Sunday. What's your favorite bet this Sunday? Ooh, I like Jacksonville. Yeah. Culture and trouble. Yeah, I mean, I look at that – I mean, I watch – very rarely am I able to sit down at 1 o 'clock on Sunday and, you know, tune in for the Sunday 1 o 'clock slate. And I also want to say thank you to the NFL for actually giving us watchable games on Sunday at 1 o 'clock.

2:03:16And last week it was Colts-Texans. And I'm not familiar. Like, I didn't know they interviewed players before kickoff. And Evan Washburn gets Daniel Jones to come over. And I'm like, his leg's broken? And he's going to play? Like, this defense is the best in the NFL at rushing the passer. And I was just amazed at that. And I just, when I think of Daniel Jones and everybody goes through his history and what he's been going back to Duke and the Giants and going to the playoffs with the Giants and being bad with the Giants, the guy is super mobile. And if he's not super mobile, I find that to be a problem because now that offsets all your misdirection in the run game with Jonathan Taylor.

2:03:57And I thought it was a factor last week. And then I look at them going to Jacksonville. The Colts have not had success going there. I think Jacksonville's a pretty underrated team because now Houston's catching all the steam. But Jacksonville's offense has been good, and I don't understand why they're an underdog, but that's the way I look at that game. I really – I'll tell you this. At Monday Night Football, people ask me what's the best game he went to. That Jacksonville Chiefs game earlier this year, I was blown away at how good the atmosphere was. Like, they got this construction on the outside, so it's like you're literally walking underneath scaffoldings and ladders and all this shit.

2:04:34And you get in there and it's like, wow. It was a full circle moment in the NFL to see how much people hate the Chiefs. Like everybody in that area that night put on a Jacksonville jersey and rooted against the Chiefs. So to see what they – and, I mean, this has got to be 12 Chiefs games in the last couple of years, three years. Like on the road, it's a different animal. And it's a real thing. And I appreciated that. For Jacksonville. And it was an advantage. It was a tough environment to play in. And I think the Colts are up against it Sunday. So this Sunday we've got the Chiefs and the Texans.

2:05:12You mentioned the Texans being a team that is catching a lot of steam. I'm high on the Texans right now. That defense is amazing. Feels like they're probably the best defense in the NFL right now. And that to me, I'm going to bet on the Houston Texans. But I also haven't heard anybody talking about why the Chiefs are a good bet at minus three. I mean, the three and a half seems weird to me, right? Same deal as the Colts game. Yeah. Same deal. I don't know if that moved at the end, but I remember earlier in the week when you look at it, you know, say on a Thursday it was three and a half. I'm like, this, I mean, if the Chiefs didn't win that, they're out, right?

2:05:47If they didn't win that game? Yeah, pretty much, yeah. I mean, they would be under 500. So, yeah, I'm with you. This Houston steam seems very real, though. And then if they were to do that, like if you really like them, get in now because they're going to be in Sunday night primetime against the Chiefs. And if they win that game, I mean, it's going to be out of control. Whereas they're not even in first place in their division, right? Jags are still in first? Yeah, yeah. No, yeah. The Jags and then Colts and then them. But they get to play the Colts twice, I believe. So they kind of control their own destiny.

2:06:24Or maybe it's the Jags play the Colts twice. Either way, Houston. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, Houston feels – they're my pinky team. I'm a little nervous. I'm starting to get nervous. Their defense is for real. And it's like, shit, man. They beat the – what they did to Josh Allen a couple weeks ago was like, oh, man. In terms of the NFL, though, overall, because we've been saying this, it doesn't feel like a year where – and maybe it's because there's some teams that are over expectations, the Bears, the Broncos, the Patriots. There's a couple teams at Seahawks. But it feels like no one's great.

2:07:00There's just a lot of really good teams. Is that fair? Yeah, I've been in the belief since the Patriots beat the Bills early on and looking at the Patriots' schedule that the home field was going to go through New England. I firmly believe that because of the schedule and seeing them in person Monday night. I saw a bunch of people talking about the Niners being a scary team. I don't think they're scary. You just know what you're going to have to do in order to beat the Niners. What's scary is how easy Drake May makes things look to me. I mean, he is supernatural. I thought Vrabel was great in the postgame, talking about how he had a meeting with his wide receiver room, and he talked about being unselfish.

2:07:40We don't know who's going to get the balls that he's going to throw, but make plays when the opportunity comes. And they've really established a different identity where you would go to New England and it would just be, all right, here they come, and there's an excitement. This team has a lot of fun. The only thing that I question about them now is not having a left tackle. Because, you know, you mentioned Houston. Jacksonville is another team that comes to mind. These teams that could rush the passer, you're going to be up against it. And now when you're on this win streak, the thing about the NFL I find amazing is you have every single person on a coaching.

2:08:21Like the coaching staffs in the NFL are so far advanced. and every week you get further with a win streak, you have more and more guys trying to pick you apart. All right, we're going to go at this. And at some point, you're going to get something exposed. You have the best of the best going at what you do. And, you know, is a loss good for them? I don't know. But they have the mojo going and there's serious belief. And we know the success rate of that place and that stadium when it comes to the playoffs. So they are – when we ask the question, Denver or New England, I feel like New England is more solidified, and I would lean towards them getting home field.

2:09:01Hit him with the stat. Steve, I don't know if you're familiar with this. I don't know if you watched the postgame on Monday night after the Patriots won, but Lisa Salters asked Drake May this question. What's up with you not getting 300 yards yet? Yeah. What's up with that, Drake? So my question to you is, what's up with that, Steve? He doesn't care. Yeah, I'd like my quarterback to care. Oh, all right. It's a great subplot on PMT because Drake May has been playing incredible and PFT has been doing a good job with new stars every week. If you have a moment, I'd just like to read you some names of quarterbacks who have thrown for 300 yards in the game.

2:09:45Will Levis. You're just off the top of your head. It's off the top of his head. Off the top of my head, Will Levis, Dan Orlovsky, John Skelton, Johnny Football, Deshaun Kaiser, Desmond Ritter, J.P. Lossman, Christian Ponder, Tim Tebow. Okay. All 300. All in the 300 club. Just something to think about. All right. I'll think about that. Yeah. That's a good point. Thank you. I want to talk real quick about the Steelers because I feel like now more than ever, and we've had it bubble up a couple times in the last season. People being like, is this now time for the mutual divorce? Everyone's predicting like a mutual parting of ways with Mike Tomlin and the Steelers.

2:10:29This year, it feels like there's actually some push behind it. Like it feels like this might be the year, if it's going to happen, that they might break up. Number one, do you think that it's time to move on from Mike Tomlin and Mike Tomlin from the Steelers? And then second part of that question, how quickly do you think Mike Tomlin would be hired by another team if the Steelers did let him go? Well, Big Ben threw out Penn State, right? He gave a great fit there or something. I wasn't sure of the wording. It's a fine line, I feel like, with Pittsburgh, knowing how passionate it is. But to hear and see that Sunday, that's something I've never seen in my life.

2:11:07I'm 48. Like, that was eye-opening and pretty surprising to hear. and I thought John Buccigrass who works with us had a tweet that I thought was really evident and he said they're boring they're not good and they're boring but on the other side they're playing for first place this week so like is it doable to go to the playoffs as a division winner and then get rid of your coach? I don't know it feels like the Big Ben ending like they weren't in it and then crazy shit happened right And then they played a playoff game, or was that the year before he retired? I forget how that was just a – it was like, all right, this is the goodbye.

2:11:50Oh, wait, no, it's not. We have another game. I forgot how that played out. But it's been so long, and I think people are – change is – not everybody likes it, but when it's been the same thing this long and you have that boring factor in where you have nothing to go to, you've always had an identity of a defense and playmakers, whether it's Palomalo, TJ Watt, all those great – James Harrison, the teams that won the Super Bowl, or Big Ben throwing a ball to Hines Ward and Antonio Brown, and you had something to fall back on. But to see that team get run for that amount of yards by Buffalo last week after I want to say they were losing at the half was something, like I said, I've never seen before.

2:12:30So if there was a time for change, it feels like it would be after this season. But I still think the credit should go to Coach Tomlin and what he's established there. I mean, that's been – the one thing you could bank on, all right, Steelers are going to be in the playoffs. They're going to be – you don't want to go there and one of the toughest places to play. So, you know, there's good and bad, but I think the longevity of it has definitely affected people more than I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. Then do you think he would get picked up immediately as a head coach somewhere else? I do. I don't.

2:13:03Wow. I think he would get picked up eventually. I think he'd have to take a year off. Okay. I just – I think that there's – and I guess it depends on how it ends there. But I think it would be like he's got to do a year where, you know, like Mike McCarthy did that, you know, Mike Vrabel did that, where it's like a year of, oh, I got to reassess and now I'm back reinvigorated kind of thing. It's like a long-term relationship. You don't want to rebound. Yeah. Find out who you are. Go to India for six months. Yeah. You don't think the Titans would be fired up to get him? I think – Yeah, maybe the Titans.

2:13:35That's the problem he threw out the Titans. I think the Titans would. I also think the Giants would. I think the Giants would love to have a guy like Mike Tomlin. Wow. Yeah. That would be a good spot for him. I even think that they could trade for him. That's just something I'm throwing out there is just fan fiction that I'm writing. But the way that Mike Tomlin operates, the way the Giants family, they operate, I feel like they crave the stability of a Mike Tomlin. Yeah. What about the NFC? Do you believe in my Bears?

2:14:06Yeah, I'm in a tough spot with you. Oh, no. Because I've gone – the streak will continue. I got a lucky push against the Steelers, but I've gone against them the last month, and they have been a good machine. Oh, no. So, I'm stuck. I am stuck. Yeah, you can't – I will say, I think I texted you week one, being there Monday night, and that was my first time inside Soldier Field. I'm like, not the best place. No, no. No. But that fan base, I've talked about it forever. I was actually – got caught flicking channels last night, and the 85 Bears 30 for 30 came on. Like, that place in – talk about longevity of suffering.

2:14:53It's awesome. It's absolutely awesome. I love the story. I'm glad it's all worked out. Now, if they're going to continue and be the one seed, I don't know. But if they were to, like, that place – when's the last time we saw the game that, like – And as well, was that Aaron Rodgers that beat you in the NFC title game? Yeah, I was going to say, yeah. I mean, the win against the Eagles, I said it on Monday's show, was the biggest win they had since the 2018 season when they beat the Rams who ended up going to the Super Bowl on Sunday Night Football and beat the shit out of Goff. But, yeah, listen, I'm in the mindset of maybe we're a year early, but it's still just such a fun ride.

2:15:30And it's like now that they run the ball better than almost anyone, They have an identity. Their defense is getting healthy. I agree. I don't think they'll end up with the one seed. But what happened after the Eagles game is I'm no longer – there's no team in the NFC that I'm like, I think we'll get our doors blown off. You know what I mean? Like we can be competitive with anyone. Will we beat everyone? No. I mean, if we played the Rams 100 times, would they beat us 70 times? Yeah, probably. But it's like one game, anything can happen. Correct. especially get home field and those elements you never know i do have a question for you big cat yeah seeing how what's the right word i don't want to say arrogant how relentless pft was during that commander's run last year was that does that affect you as you watch this bears run like do you have to get to the nfc title game to be as relentless as unbearable as he was No, listen, I – You guys spend a lot of time with each other.

2:16:35Yeah, no. I know the dynamic. People getting each other's feelings. You know, guys getting each other's feelings. I think there's a fine line, but he set the precedent. Yeah. No, honestly, honestly, the last year sucked because, I mean, the season sucked and Caleb didn't look good. I'm now at a point with Caleb where I feel confident in his growth and, like, yeah, he's not lighting the world on fire week to week, but, like, he's making smart plays. I think he's one of the most clutch guys out there. I trust him in a fourth quarter. No, so Caleb playing well and the Bears playing well has made me let go a little bit of, like, God damn it, Jaden Daniels is really good, which he is really good.

2:17:15And to be fair, I doubted whether or not the Commanders were even a good football team until the playoffs started last year because they won so many of those close games. Boy, did your feelings change. Then the playoffs started. And then it's more about – it's actually more about how I acted this offseason than it is how I acted last year. Yeah, that's more – Because after going to the NFC Championship game, I was like – yeah, I was scouring lists. I was reading every quarterback list and, like, threatening to mail pipe bombs if they didn't have Jaden at number five this offseason. So, yeah, I like to think I was realistic until we got to the NFC Championship game.

2:17:51And then this whole offseason, I've been unrealistic. So in the NFC, who else do you trust or think is – because, listen, I am realistic about the Bears. I do not think they're the best team in the NFC. I think they can play with anyone. But, you know, I still think, like I said, the Rams. I don't know if you feel differently about the Packers, Seahawks. Like, there's some good teams. I love Seattle. Absolutely love them because I know what I'm getting. I think McDonald's a wizard on defense. Green Bay is the coin toss to me. I don't know what I'm getting from them in a big spot. Now, I thought Thanksgiving morning, that game was as high-level a game.

2:18:31Maybe the best game Detroit's been involved in that, I don't know. I don't get to watch that game a lot. But I sat down and I was like, this game is awesome. And Green Bay matched every time, which is hard to do when Detroit has it rolling. The one team I think that could be a thorn in the Bears side because they have so much experience and they are getting guys back healthy is Tampa. I think Tampa's a problem because they could go anywhere and play, and I still want to see Caleb Williams in cold weather. Yeah. Yeah. What do you mean, like last year when he beat the Packers in Lambeau? With a little more at stake.

2:19:14Okay. All right. All right. I'm just saying that was pretty cold. Are you worried? No, but this is what I'm saying. I know that's what Caleb wants to do, too. Yeah, yeah. You know, like, I just want, like, two years ago, Scott and I did this whole thing, right? I just want to see the Chiefs go on the road in the playoffs. And they go on the road, they beat the Bills, and they beat everybody that goes to the Super Bowl. That's why this playoff picture is so interesting. It's awesome. Because you have, especially in the AFC, you have the Bills, the Bengals, the Ravens, the Chiefs, all kind of down.

2:19:43So it's like, we don't know what's going to happen. And it's similar in the NFC where you have, you know, Some teams are like, we don't know. Are they good? Maybe. Yeah. I don't think anybody's afraid of anyone. Yeah. And that's why I thought that was a big step for the Bears last week going to Philly because I thought that was a have to have a game with Philly. And they went in. I mean, Johnson's game plan with the misdirection, the run game, like that thing. And I love Philly's personnel on defense. And they had no answer. The one thing I find interesting is like the seeding and how it goes because I feel like the Rams, Niners, and Seahawks are so sick of each other that if one of those teams has to beat the other two, it's like, man, that's a tough draw.

2:20:27You know, where they're just looking for some fresh faces that they can play against in the playoffs. But I feel like those three teams have had so many battles that they would want to – you have to play who's in front of you. But preferably, they would like to see some different uniforms in those three. Yeah. If I were to say over under one game that the Eagles win in the playoffs this year. So one would be a push. Get your money back. What would you say? I'll take the over. Oh, so you still believe? Because Max is in a very bad spot where the Eagles now have to win him back.

2:21:07It's true. I don't understand why you're shaking your head. Don't shake your fucking head. We live in the present. Right now they're a bad football team, and they're not showing that they're anything else. So in addition to having to win football games, they also have to win you. You have to go 2-0 every week. The collective me. I represent the fan of things. Are you eating your microphone right now? That's how mad you are. I always talk like this. He starts to peel it when he gets really upset. All right. Max, I got a scenario for you, okay? I am a born loser New York Mets fan, okay? And not this past year, years prior, I was always pessimistic.

2:21:45Like, it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. Of course, it didn't happen. Scott has always told me it costs the same to be optimistic as it does pessimistic. Yeah. Good advice. So could you adopt that optimism? But here's where I'll counter with that.

2:22:02Optimism provides a higher amount of disappointment. disappointment if you go into things pessimistic then you're then you're going about life in a much better way but you're but you're going week by week yeah that's all yeah baby stuff yeah just go week by week hear him out pessimists they they generally tend to be happier like frank the tank when he coach their teams happy-go-lucky guys that's a good that's a good point that's a good point yeah you sit you sit next to memes he's happy all the time i was i was pretty optimistic for most of this year, and then I was in the stadium for that Bears game, and it was just absolutely disgusting on all fronts.

2:22:41Well, that's your fault for going to the game. Yeah. It was a perfect game. I don't live in Philly. It was a Friday game. No work the next day. Everyone was getting shit-faced. It was good football. I mean, it was cold. It was very cold. I would have liked it to have been a little bit warmer. But it was the perfect time to go to a game, and it was disgusting. disgusting and it's just a microcosm of the disgusting offense that has been going on in Philly for the entire year and they can't figure it out but Nick Sirianni says drastic changes coming this week so I'm excited to see the drastic changes I was kind of confident when watching hard knocks uh with Sirian I refuse to watch it you're boycotting hard knocks I it's great I heard that it's just the Bears and the Cowboys game and they're just gonna remind me of how angry I was watching both of those games.

2:23:30You're moving past. You've got to embrace the journey. I know if they win this week, I'll watch next week. Or I don't know if that's how that works. But, yeah. It's a week-to-week show. They're on a bye, so what do you do, right? Let Steve talk you into being optimistic, though. Why are you optimistic about the Birds? Me? Yeah. Because Lane Johnson's going to come back. I still believe in the offensive line, and they have to figure out the run game. Like, I'm not saying we're going to get back to Barkley last year, but there still has to be more of a success rate in the run game. There's nothing in the run game.

2:24:04All year, there's been nothing, and you can't do anything with this offense. That was our entire identity last year, and not only is it not elite like it was last year, it's not even average. It's like the worst, and it makes no sense to me. It's the same guys. It's the same guys. I don't want to get mad, and I'm going into this pessimistically so I don't get mad, but it's got to be better. But here's the deal. If you say this is the worst, then it only can get better. Yeah. I've been thinking that for weeks and then somehow it still can get worse. No, no, no. I've lost hope of it getting better.

2:24:41I think what we've learned is that Max, he can't be persuaded by an optimist. He needs somebody that's more anti-Birds than he is. So that Max has to be like, hey, calm down. It's not all that bad. That's actually fair. I do. I start to think that the Eagles are better when people start. Yeah, when you were fighting with Pug about the Packers-Eagles game. Well, Pug was right. Yeah, Pug was right. Pug was right. Pug was right. How about Eagles go to the NFC Championship game, Max has to shave his head. That sounds fair. I'm not celebrating NFC Championship. Soul Patch. How about if you go to the Super Bowl and you shave your head?

2:25:16I'm getting married this year. Soul Patch. If you win, it's Soul Patch. If you win the Super Bowl. Come on. Soul Patch. The Super Bowl? You're being a bad fan right now. You're being a bad fan. Hank has to do Soul Patch then. Yeah, see? What? You guys don't win the Super Bowl?

2:25:37Steve, I got one last question for you. It's a rowback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. Promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Rowback.com. Promo code TAKE. Actually, two last questions. One. I have two questions for you. Okay. Are you going to Northside Tavern? Yes. Okay. Good. Good. Yeah. I fucking love that place. So there's a picture. We talk about it all the time. That was such a great night when we went there. Two, what's your best college football bet of the weekend? Oh, this is one of my questions for you guys, okay? So I think you have the old – Max, this is great after our optimism talk.

2:26:15I was asked to do the voiceover for the hype video for Tulane for their title game this week. So take North Texas. Okay. Okay. Good call. Good call. I like North Texas. I think they're so awesome. They're fun. Yeah. Yeah. Their team totals have been unbelievable. I think they've gone over every game besides one. Yeah. Are you going to bet the Big Ten Championship game? Because I cannot make sense of it. I want to take – like, everything says, hey, just take Ohio State. They're the better team. They don't have – they haven't shown everything. When they do, they're going to obliterate someone. But how much do they care about this game?

2:26:54that's that's the problem with all this and and i it's there's a bunch of layers here right you have indiana where i feel like the majority of their fan base would be over the moon if they beat ohio state to win a big 10 title yeah like they've never seen that i'm not talking about older people too yeah they've never seen that and then i asked herby this week i'm like what do you think the crowd's going to be? Like, do you think it's 50-50? Do you think it's 60-40 Indiana? Because no matter what you say, the craziest and biggest fan base in the sport is Ohio State. And those people are out of their minds for their team, and they're going to show up.

2:27:38So I said at the most, it's 60-40 Indiana. But the other factor you have is Indiana has a basketball game in the Pacers arena at two o 'clock. So like this day is set up for Indiana. Like you have no other. And I could see the Ohio State fans going to like, let's ruin it. Let's go. Let's go to the basketball game and root for Louisville. And let's go to the football game. Because a couple of years ago, man, who did Ohio State play? I think they played Wisconsin in the big 10 title game. 2017. Yeah. I think that was it because I was with a, Scott was doing the show that night and having the coaches on, you know, like we were getting before the four teams were announced Sunday morning.

2:28:20And so I was with a producer and we were in Indy and it was Saturday and the game's at eight o 'clock and I'm like, Oh, it's noon. I'm like, let's go grab some lunch. Like we'll get some wings and something. And we start walking and every place has a line out the door. I'm like, what is going on? Ohio state had a basketball game that day on the big 10 network. And they all went to bars to watch the game. And so they start before noon and go all the way. Like, that's how maniacal they are. And as crazy as they are, I still respect the hell out of them because they are at that level. I threw out Jeremiah Love three weeks ago when he was at 30-1 for the Heisman Trophy winner thinking he was playing against Syracuse and Stanford, and I thought he was going to run for 800 yards in each game.

2:29:05He got hurt. And when on top of that, I thought this game was going to happen and everybody started the narrative of the winning quarterback in the Big Ten title game is going to win the Heisman Trophy. And I just have thought forever it's going to be a defensive game. I don't know if the winning quarterback is going to be that impressive in this game. And so then I started thinking, oh, it's in a dome. They're going to have everything going. Ohio State looked like a machine in snow at Ann Arbor last week. So I have totally flipped on its side. I still go back to, I believe, 24 points wins the game.

2:29:40I think Indiana's defense is for real. The Ohio State factor and how dominant they've been, I'm not talking about the schedule. I'm talking about them, their personnel. The one thing that they don't have that they did last year was difference makers up front on the defensive line. Now, if those guys are motivated enough and show out against Indiana, who I think is an above-average offensive line to very good, that would be a surprise to me. So that's why I think it's kind of balanced both ways, and I expect a lower-scoring game because on the back end of those guys, Ohio State has arguably the best secondary.

2:30:15So I think it's a ball-control sort of deal. But being at Eugene for Indiana, like Mendoza throwing those back shoulder fades to Surratt and Cooper, it's an unguardable play. There's no defense for it, and they were on the money in not great conditions in Eugene against a really good team who also, I think, can win a national championship. So that's what it is. Limited mistakes, and I feel like Ohio State's offensive line is good and Indiana's right there. It's an awesome matchup. I would think – do you guys see either team falling out of the bye? No, I don't think so. If Indiana loses by 50, there's an outside chance.

2:30:59I mean, that would be – But then it would be Oregon, and they beat Oregon. Right. So how can you do that? I don't think it's going to happen. I did think about it a month ago when I thought that there was an outside chance that JMU could play against Indiana, against Signetti in the first round. But I don't think that's possible now. Yeah. Because the other thing that's fascinating and traveling all over this year is, you know, in the offseason they changed. All right, four best teams are going to get the bye. And then you go to all these places, you're like, we don't want the bye. We want the home playoff game.

2:31:28Yeah. That's what we want. And, like, Eugene and Bloomington and all these places. So that's another fact because, like, if BYU were to win and Georgia were to win and Ohio State wins a close game, like, does Oregon back into a bye? Which would be crazy. I don't think they want that. They want somebody to have to come to Eugene. Yeah. Yeah. Get a lot of tickets. Yeah. So. Okay, you had a question? Yeah, that was it about who were you. what you should do in the Big Ten. Oh, in the American. Yeah, yeah. Alright. Well, Steve, the hype video's coming, so take North Texas. I love it. You're the best, Steve.

2:32:08We miss you. We gotta get wings soon. Super Bowl week, we gotta find a place. Everyone give us your recommendations. San Francisco. You're gonna be there, right? Yeah. We'll be there. Okay. Big, big Pro Bowl Tuesday night. Oh, okay. So, San Francisco, hit us with your big... Scott Van Pell on the call. Scott Van Pell on the call. Your best wing spot, and we will review them Super Bowl week. yeah one quick one yeah uh nose hair yeah came up on our podcast this week uh-huh would you guys entertain the thought of waxing your nose hair no but i have you done it i have i i've plucked i've i've my wife has plucked because she's just like what the fuck is this it's gross yeah but you get those ingrown hairs in there and they hurt like no one's like you feel like you're pulling out part of your brain yeah i also have it on the top i have it she's plucked on the top i get it on like the outside of my nose too it's gross you're hairy it's gross when you're talking about wax they stick the wax up your nose and then they so the key so the key it's basically a giant q-tip and they do that and they they throw up but the key is not to go all the way up where it feels like they're pulling out your brain yeah like a covid test yeah it's just you know get makeup every week and you're like oh your nose hair is falling out again i'm like yeah i gotta trim it but even the trimmer it doesn't i know i know you know what if i was in a chair and somebody was like getting me ready to go on tv and they're like hey can we wax this it'll take five minutes i'd probably just say yes but i would never like go out and do it and schedule it on my own yeah i think i have to do it on a day because i like it i've broken my nose a couple times and you can't stop crying.

2:33:47Yeah. Like, that's what happens. So before going on TV, I don't think it's a good idea. Yeah, that's true. But I'm going to get it done, and I will check back with you guys and let you know how it is. But I think we're here for nose hair removal. We just think Steve just lost a bet. Weeping on TV. It's going to be a great bad beat. Okay, Steve, you're the best, man. Have fun this weekend, and we'll see you soon. Wherever the hell we meet again, boys, it'll be a pleasure, and I can't wait to have a couple cold ones. It'll be good. Always a great environment drinking beer with you, Steve. That's my number one.

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2:36:10Oh. Jerry O 'Connell? Yep. Why? Because I'm still reading this dumbass book, and I already know what happens. Wait, how many pages are you in? Like 150. What's happened so far? He's gone on a quest. He's found some knights. They went to a funeral. Yeah? And that's kind of where I left off. Okay. They're about to go on another adventure, which I know he dies at the end of. But he's going to fuck up some windmills, dude. He could fuck up some windmills. Yeah, but he's going to die. everyone dies spoiler yeah spoiling a thousand page book that's brutal you could just quit you could quit no one is making you do this why don't you fight fire with fire spoil Kangaroo Jack seen that was that Full House what that was Jerry yeah that was Jerry oh yeah Kangaroo Jack it's his number one movie you wanna spoil it or spoil Stand By Me or jerry mcguire yeah i don't remember what happened at the end of kangaroo jack i just know the commercial is bullshit the commercial is bullshit well at the end of stand by me they they come across the dead body and then the older brothers drive to catch up to the dead body river phoenix pulls a gun on keifer sutherland and is like step the fuck away and then he steps the fuck off and then some of them remain friends to this day except river phoenix died in the movie too.

2:37:39That's sad. Very sad. All right, so what's your other fire fest? Might have jumped the gun talking shit about the weather in Chicago, although I don't give a fuck. Weather, the winter's the winter. The winter is the winter. If it's average of 40 degrees versus average of 15 degrees, what's the difference? You're inside. Yeah, I think the blob is going to fuck us up, but like I said, one bad winter, then the next winter will feel easy. So on the drive into work this morning for Wake Up Barstool, it was super early so i go out to my car it feels cold i get in my car it says like 15 degrees i'm like yeah it's pretty cold i drove in and then once i got inside everybody started complaining about the weather because it was like three degrees but my car said it was it was 15 and so i think it's all mental like i i wasn't thinking that it was brutally cold until somebody else told me that it was isn't everyone getting fucked up right now too like i saw the south was getting fucked up too like there's zach you got you're you're you're keen on the weather i just the i've seen a lot of these blob maps the the heat maps look like everybody substantial amounts of states are getting fucked up yeah yep no it's been a good week it's been it's been a good week i like this time of year great week yeah the weather doesn't bother me until like mid-january then i'm like all right this is still festive christmas time i yeah once the lights come down yeah then it's like dark as long as the snow on the ground is white i'm cool with it it's basically And then once it turns like city gray and yellow and brown, that's when I'm done with the snow.

2:39:07It's January 1st till the Super Bowl because then we go on vacation after the Super Bowl. And then it's like, all right, it's late February. Let's move on with it. Yeah, this doesn't look good for anyone. That's a giant blob. Holy shit. They're blobbing everything. Hank, hear me out. What if we build a fuckload of windmills, really tall ones, and then we push the blob back? Back to Canada. Yeah. Zach, what do you think? That sounds like it could work. I like that. Fight wind with wind. Yeah, but they're not cost effective. And when the windmills break, it fucks up the environment. I care about the environment.

2:39:43What if we build giant ones? Just huge windmills. You're thinking about the birds. I'm thinking about the whole environment. But you've been awfully quiet about the dead cats. Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah. Feral cats. I haven't heard a word. Yeah. Okay. Keep that same energy for the cats, Hank. pft your fire fest or do you have one more no okay i got two fire fest fires fest uh first is the world cup draws tomorrow and hank doesn't care about it and he's about to yawn because i'm talking about soccer uh but the world cup draw is tomorrow hank maybe what time i think it's at 11 11 central hank this might interest you max hand up what's the world cup draw okay good question max it's where they put all the names of all the countries into a big pot and And it's like the NBA lottery where they pull out the ping pong balls.

2:40:30So this is where we find out if we're a group of death? We find out if we're in the group of death or if we're in the group of life. And Hank, I'm going to snap your attention into this because Tom Brady is helping the host. Oh. Yeah. So the A-listers. We got Tom Brady, Shaq. Donald Trump is going to be, I think, maybe even picking the balls out. And as I've predicted, I think this is going to be the most rigged draw ever for the United States. And I put together my – this is my pick for our group. USA, Iran South Africa New Zealand That would be money That would be money for us There's also a chance that Italy doesn't get in There are some teams that haven't qualified yet Wait, how are they doing the draw without a qualification?

2:41:12They've got like six different spots I think for teams that are pending qualifications So like there's four European countries That can get in and then two others And Italy, it would be a real shame If Italy missed two consecutive World Cups That would be brutal our friend pending qualification disqualification by the way shout out orlando fc had over three tweets about it yeah um we also we didn't realize when we were deciding about taking orlando fc versus san diego san diego was actually in the semi-finals two weeks ago oh let's go yeah they lost good for them but yeah wait who's in the fight it's the vancouver whitecaps against inter-Miami.

2:41:52That's messy. Got it. So far apart. So listen, we are Orlando FC. Yeah. We are Orlando FC. Me and Hank may still be San Diego. Yeah. Oh, shit. Oh, a house divided? What the fuck? A podcast divided? We got the disqualification. When do they play next year? I don't know the schedule's out. Circle it on the calendar. Don't worry about it. It's rivalry week. I'm over the whole MLS. Yeah, I mean, we all know that the only way that anything comes of this is if somehow we're in Orlando for something else and there happens to be an Orlando FC game happening within one mile of where we're at and we probably still won't go.

2:42:39I think it's probably more likely that we're on a trip somewhere else and Orlando happens to be on the road playing against that team in that stadium. And we still won't go. We'll drive past. Yeah. And be like, pride up. I'll tell you what. If Orlando FC wants to reach out and let one of us play in a game, we will do that. Yeah. That'd be so sick. Zach. Zach. Let Zach be a goalkeeper. I'd get in that. Yeah. Just get him on the roster for a minute. So that's Fyre Fest number one. Fyre Fest number two is I got out-negotiated yesterday in a car deal. so um i've told you guys that i really enjoy negotiating car prices yes so i go in to negotiate this price and i'm doing all my tricks i'm like trying to throw the salesperson off balance a little bit but like in a friendly way where he knows i'm playing the game i know he's playing the game and then he gives me the price and then i write something down on a sheet of paper and i was like if we can get the first two numbers to start with these two numbers you got yourself a deal and he's like okay i'll be right back he he leaves he goes to the back room and then he comes back and the price that he's written down is like twenty five hundred dollars less than what i told him interesting and i looked at it and he's like so we got a deal i'm just like looking at the number and trying to figure out how he got to that number and why he went to that number and i spent like two minutes like asking him questions about the item i stuff on it and he was like no that's that's the number and i was like okay okay deal but i felt like i got beat yeah no something happened it's a very unsatisfying he sold you something bad so what happened was like i i got more than what i wanted to get but he absolutely won that negotiation against me yes i almost 100 i i felt like i had to turn down his counteroff yeah and be like no you go back there and you bring it up two thousand dollars no he got you and i got owned by this guy yep so hey tip of the cap he 100 owned you something is gonna happen to your car and you should be like fuck that's why something is amiss yeah what what zach said something i was saying you wouldn't want that it'd be it'd be a bad yeah well zach you used to sell cars would you ever do that ever do what you know give give pft a good deal even better deal than what he expected best deal we try to find all rebates and incentives we try to like get you on the road a nice ride that's what he said he's like i found some more rebates back there i was like where are you keeping these rebates sometimes they're hiding and then i thought to myself like what's what's the catch with the rebates they're just it's actually the best way to negotiate with somebody you just you let them win but you control that they won yeah how come cars are the only place where you use the word rebate.

2:45:32I don't think that's true. I think it's true. Okay. It's definitely not true.

2:45:41Counter, give me appliance stores. They do rebates? A partial refund to someone who has paid too much money for tax, rent, or utility. Isn't it like taxes? Don't you get tax rebate? Alright, take it back. Tax refund. Or you can be like, I jacked off this morning then I rebated. A tax rebate is a refund of taxes paid off an issue by federal or state government. Yeah, I don't know what... That would rock. Listen, sometimes you say stuff that... I like you taking shots. Yeah. Take shots. By the way, since we recorded the picks and preview, Jalen Carter has been ruled out. Do you have a statement?

2:46:18Yeah, Shane was rooting for injuries. Sad. That's your statement? Yep. What about your team? How long is he out for? How long is he out? I already said we're fucked. We'll talk about... We do not preview Monday Night Football games on this program. But we talk about football on this program. Yeah. We talk about that on Sunday. We talk about Monday Night Football. No, we talk about injury news. We'll talk about that on Sunday. This is Breaking Moose. It's not Breaking Moose. Breaking Moose. This is not Breaking Moose. Breaking Moose. Jalen Carter out for Monday Night Football. And possibly longer.

2:46:48Yep, and possibly longer. Max, your thoughts? He played bad last game, so that probably makes sense. Oh, he was injured. Yeah. What was his injury? Shoulders. Both shoulders. Both shoulders? That seems bad. He had a procedure done. Not surgery. Procedure. On which shoulder? On both? I think both. He got two shoulders done? Both shoulders. That doesn't sound good. Nope. I'm not a doctor. But not great.

2:47:17We're deep on the interior defensive line. You've still got to win the football game, but you probably won't because who knows. I've lost all hope in this Eagles team. They have to bring me back. Oh, they have to buy you. Yeah, they have to win you back. They have to win me back. Wow. I'm opening up that they could win me back, but right now, they have to prove it. They have to prove it. What if they beat Trey Lance on Monday? Sounds like you're 6 out of 10 excited. I would take it. No. Would that win you back? Way less than 6 out of 10. Huh? That win you back? If they beat Trey Lance? Yeah. No.

2:48:00What if the offense looks awesome? Maybe. I would like the offense to look awesome. If the offense looks awesome, then it doesn't matter who's playing quarterback. Then they win you back. Yeah. What if the defense looks bad, though? That would be fine. Defense looks bad. Yeah, because Jalen Carter. Jalen Carter. I had a joke about Jalen Carter, but I didn't say it out of respect to you, Max. Jalen Carter. Good guy. No. Yeah. Yeah. Good guy. You're standing on that. Yeah. Good guy. Good guy. Okay. Sure. Yeah. You want me to say it again? Yeah. Jalen Carter, good guy. Okay. There it is. Everyone makes mistakes.

2:48:41Make one mistake. Dak spit on them first. There's a couple. That wasn't. Oh, that's not what we're. Yeah. Max, we don't care about. Yeah, we weren't talking about the spit. That was the second mistake. So everyone makes two mistakes? Yeah. that's sometimes he might have been he was young young guy he might have been driving a red car in his defense yeah okay uh i don't really have a fire i mean i guess i had one from over thanksgiving my kids were sick i i had to catch throw up uh in my hands at the zoo that's always a moment where you're like okay yeah this is i'm fine with this i think you think the uh the animals respect that it was in the cafeteria um it was kind of a scene but yeah i i caught it I caught pretty much 90 % of the throw up.

2:49:29But it was kind of a moment where you live your whole life being grossed out by certain things. And then when it happens with kids, you're just like, yeah, fine. I'll just fucking jump in front of this one. Your own kids. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, that stranger's kid. Oh, gross. Gross. And then, yeah, I mean, it's a reverse Fyre Fest, but we obviously had the Spotify wrapped and YouTube wrapped. Thank you for everyone who tunes in. It's fucking, it still is mind-blowing. Ten years in. It's crazy. It's wild seeing all the different countries, too, when we get to look at that. The YouTube rep was awesome.

2:50:01Yeah. Very well done. Seriously, thank you to all the AWLs. We know how lucky we are, and it's very special to have those moments where we're like, wow, this is pretty crazy. We were the number two on Spotify behind the Kelsey's with asterisks. Yeah, that's bullshit. That's an asterisk. That's bullshit. Also, they rank them. You can see it on Spotify. It's ranked. We're always ranked higher. I don't want to. And they show the views. Yeah, and they show the views. We always are higher. You guys know me. I'm not a big pound my chest guy. But if you really wanted to, you could go to the episodes and see right next to them how many listens each episode of ours has.

2:50:38And then the ones on theirs. And then you can kind of judge for yourself that way. What does this mean? Zach gave out his list, though. Wait, this is your list, Zach? it's top 10 sports podcast of 2025 very tiny parentheses according to Zach okay pardon my take one spitting chiclets to charge them if you got them three the Ryan Russillo show for guilty is charged so Russillo is now in a Chargers sandwich cover three podcast shout out our guy Tom the tennis podcast seven eagle eye eight what's that nine nine high hopes shout out shout out my my Phillies guys Jack Fritz my guy and then Zach this is Zach 10 meow mix okay very good Zach you listen we don't we I'd say actually the one thing that we don't really care about is the rankings because we just keep putting out a podcast and hoping people like it and a lot of people like it yeah so um we just need to get Taylor Swift involved well no there's other options we're talking about yeah Sabrina Carpenter for Zach oh my god can you imagine Zach you and Sabrina I mean that would be quite the scene that would be quite the scene really any Serena Zach would ghost Sabrina Carpenter let's be honest yeah that's not true his brother would hit him up for some call of duty and he'd be like Sabrina sorry I think she'd understand that I mean yeah family you know the point remains thank you to everyone who listens and rides with us it's pretty awesome I got a question, Zach.

2:52:09How many of these are real podcasts? All of them. All of them are. Except for one. Yeah. One of them is fake. Which one's fake? Charge them if you got them. Charge them. That's a fake Chargers podcast. Yeah. Oh, okay. That's what we say. Guilty of charge is real, though. It's a real one. What's Eagle Eye? That's one that Pug listens to a lot. Oh, okay. Okay. But still Zach's list. Eagle Eye, solid Eagles pod that I listen to, and sometimes I fall asleep to Pug. Zach. Shadow Eagle Eye. Another follow-up question here. Why is spitting chicklets higher than Ryan Russillo? I like both podcasts. I'm just curious to know what the metrics are that went into judging these.

2:52:48Yeah, hockey players, tough guys. Sometimes you just got to respect them. Not Ryan. So Ryan, not a tough guy. Wow. Zach does not respect. Flip it and tweet it at Russillo. Ryan Russillo. Tough guy, hockey guy is tougher guys. No, but you're basically saying you're not afraid of Ryan physically. Yeah. Less afraid of Ryan in full transparency. What about charge them if you got them? Those guys? I mean, also. Also, it's Zach's list. The Chicklets guys got left off that other list. That went into consideration for this list. Still Zach's list, though. Still Zach's list. Okay, Zach, give us your Fyre Fest.

2:53:23My Fyre Fest this week is earlier in the week I had the pleasure of competing in a spelling bee. I didn't. I got out my first word. But the Fyre Fest part is like last night I saw the video scrolling through Twitter on the 4U. And I watched it probably for about 20 minutes just because, like, as an adult, you have to spell one word correctly. No. I've now downloaded several spelling apps and will become a better speller. Okay. Yeah. All right. I'm getting in the lab. A double R. Now, Zach is horrible at spelling, right? Zach is not what we call a, uh, he's a creative speller. Your word is resilient.

2:53:57Resilient? Come on, Danny. You might put a Y in here. Resilient. Come on, Zach. Correct. He's just trying to think of a letter right now. Any letter. Any letter. Please spell zillion in the middle. Was he counting on his fingers? Yeah, it might be a Z in here. R-E-S-I-L-E-N-T. I'm sorry, Zach. You left out the I. Sorry about that. Yeah, sorry. I didn't think it was that bad. Oh, actually, I do have a fire fest now that I think about it. Oh. It kind of goes to Zach's point because I was just thinking about me and Zach versus like a third grader and a spelling bee and we might be outmatched my nephew is three and has learned about the solar system and at thanksgiving they're asking him questions and they're asking questions like i don't think i know the answers to some of these yep and that is that is a tough realization yeah remember when i talked about this uh maybe it was like two summers ago when when my oldest was asking me questions about the sun and he like knew some of the shit and I didn't know anything.

2:55:01What was the hardest question? It was just like the, you know, how many rings does this planet have? How many moons? Which planets are next to each other? I was like, it was bad. Yeah. Did the kids know about Pluto? Yeah, it's a dwarf planet. Oh, so they're still teaching Pluto? No, it's like, is this a planet? Yes. Pluto's a planet. He goes, no, dwarf planet. Oh, that's crazy. Damn, he was sharp. Wow. Yeah, I remember when they canceled Pluto. That was a tough day. We'll get it back one day. I've decided to go get no more Ozempic, by the way. Oh, that was a brief. Is that just because you went to the gym two times?

2:55:37Yep. I've decided that I'm instead going to be gym guy. I'm still keeping TRT on the table for myself. So, Max, you had a total of zero days on Ozempic. Zero days on Ozempic, yeah. Well, I'm giving Jim a shot. Doesn't coming to this office count is going to the gym? No, because there's only a finite amount of time where you can actually do it, so then I would have to wake up super early before people come or I have to go at 6 and then Mincy's always grunting while you're trying to work out which is tough so going to a gym like separate you can go, we have a weird schedule so I can go on like our off time which is good yeah so gym, gym guy, I'm becoming gym guy TRT?

2:56:21I'll keep that on the table for sure my problem with getting TRT is I have to go see my doctor and I don't really know how to do that I don't have a doctor. Yeah. Well, that's the problem. We need to get. We've talked about it on this show. Let's talk about it again. Doctor. Someone here. Doctor. Be my be my physician. Yeah. Why can't why can't we have a doctor just do a house call to this office? Yeah. And like tell us we're fat, but like be nice about it. And then just be like, here's the solution. Yeah. Testosterone. Why don't you have somebody in this office just become a doctor? No, because I would like to know like if I'm about like how quickly I am to death.

2:56:55that's not what doctors do I think you want to go to a witch doctor I mean like I would like someone to nicely be like if you go about this you're going to die in this amount of time they don't do that I feel like they could they just say are you healthy or not Max it sounds like you know exactly what's wrong with you you just want somebody else to tell it to you what tell me that I'm fat no you're saying that you want to pay somebody money to say here's what's wrong with you and here's how you're going to die I'm not that's healthcare It sounds to me like you know the answer is you just want somebody in a coat.

2:57:32yeah somewhat official am I eating too much salt probably yeah what else we all eat our meals together we have a Super Bowl Sunday every Sunday I love that we've rebranded it I do like that he actually is not wrong everyone talks about gaining weights on the holidays and stuff and it's like I ate relatively healthy and relatively portioned meals and I came in Sunday and it was Super Bowl Sunday every Sunday I felt like shit on Monday not because of the holidays but just from coming here on Sunday. My fiancée and I talk about, she's like, when you come home, you eat healthy. Where are you slipping up?

2:58:09I'm like, you don't know what happens on Sunday. Super Bowl Sunday. Super Bowl Sunday every Sunday. Oh, man. Yeah, it's a great rebrand because how can you not on Super Bowl Sunday? How can you not? You can't turn it down on Super Bowl Sunday. That's why we do it. Yeah. Last week, I think we had pizza, chicken fingers, wings. cheese steaks Mexican food no buffalo chicken dip though yeah we gotta get that in our super bowl get that in the mix and ice cream that's how you know that and ice cream and ice cream halftime snacks we have those has anyone I also we have a popcorn machine I was eating I had like a it was tasted good it was like a hundred calorie ice cream bar I was like has anyone ever done do we know how many calories are in like a serving of our ice cream machine I did that How much?

2:59:02Don't want to know. It's like 190 calories if you go just above the top of the cone. Oh, that's not bad. No, no, no, no. Your cones are much more. I measured it to try and get under 200 calories, and it was barely above the top of the cone. Yeah, that's not bad. Honestly, I thought you were going to say it was 400. I also think that was... Sounds like yours are 400. I think that was also when we had the 5 % milk fat, and I think the 10 % milk fat. Can we do frozen yogurt? Whoa. There's no way. I thought that was a strict rule of no yogurt. Yeah, it was. I'm just asking if we wanted to get in shape in January, could we maybe switch to frozen yogurt?

2:59:42Frozen yogurt would be sick. All of those, like all those Dole Whip options that we had, those are all like super low calorie. We can try yogurt as well. Maybe we try yogurt in January. Memes is giving me a death stare right now. Yes, yes, yogurt, yes. No way. Yes, yogurt. Yes. You can put quite a few different variations of mixes in the top of that thing and it will come out tasty. What if we had one yogurt, the other custard, and then you could do a mix, a swirl. So it's like three quarters as bad. Oh, it's like harm reduction. Yeah, harm reduction. Like kind of fat for you, kind of not. When are we getting a new one?

3:00:15Probably in the summer. Okay. Yeah, yeah. We're going to upgrade to a bigger one. A bigger one or a third one? A bigger one. Well, can you put three things in it? I think I'm going to put like 15 things in it. Oh, okay. Like one of those machines that just has all the sodas in it? Yeah, yeah. Like that. I want that. Yeah. Does that exist? I don't know, but someone should make it for us. Zach, how stressed are you by listening to what he just said? I don't know if it comes to one singular machine, but we'll stack them. We can stack them for you. Would you be into a stack? I don't know. I want something big.

3:00:51Big. We'll go big. Yeah, Texas-sized. Yeah. Because I also think we could sell this one. We could do like a - We could sell it and be like, hey, buy the Barstool custom cream team machine, and then we just upgrade to something bigger. And maybe every year we get bigger and bigger and bigger until we just have an ice cream factory. I just want to point out that this conversation started with, we need to all get in better shape. We eat too unhealthy, and it's evolved into, we need to get a much bigger ice cream.

3:01:22it all started with me saying it i shouldn't have said i'm i may need to go ozempic's still on the table but i but right now so you're back on no i'm not i'm just not ruling it out right now yeah this is a roller coaster i'm giving i'm i'm trying i'm trying to just be fit gym guy okay so you're the fattest guy in this gym by far by the way i've i look every i've gone twice and i've looked at every person there for sure the fattest guy there but that makes me think that once you're there long enough you're not fat yeah you're also probably one of the strongest in the gym yeah you're an athlete you're i did legs i'm i'm pretty good at benching but i i squatted today there was like there was like a girl next to me doing like the same amount of weight that i was that's okay what if we did frozen yogurt in the machine and then i got a huge cooler for hard hard ice cream scoop that could definitely play So you can have a little bit of both.

3:02:14I think what's going to happen is people are going to have. Here's what I know I will do. I'll eat the I'll eat the frozen yogurt and then I'll think to myself that just wasn't as good as ice cream. I want ice cream and then I'll have ice cream. But Zach getting like being behind the counter for an hour every day. It's like you want your ice cream. He'll scoop it for you. Would be nice. That maintenance for that wouldn't be that bad. You got to buy the big barrels. Yeah, it would just be the upfront. It's like the freezer and stuff. Yeah. All right. We got options, boys. We got flavors. memes is so he's just staring at me right now breathing at the mic i know exactly what you're looking for uh big cat yeah before you do the you say the word yeah should we talk you honest at all we talked about at the beginning of the show that's right it was a great conversation and chris paul fantastic conversations both numbers three ah yannis nicks shit I mean I'll let memes have three from now on Thank you No I'll still fight for it every now and then Because it would be funny I'll go 15 100 I'll go 50 What was 50 there?

3:03:24I had a bad experience with 50 I'm trying to reverse it 44 No it is You had a bad experience with 50? 8 I had a 50-50 chance of winning something Zach built a snowman yesterday Watch it on PMTV 85 85 It's actually two snowmen. Two snowmen. The second one was a perfectly normal-sized snowman. Great snowmen.

3:03:4618. 18's been hot. 18's been hot. You want to do one more? I would love to do one more. All right, we're getting really close. Should we do new numbers? No. It has to be three. It really doesn't. All right, 85. Three. 15. 100. 50.

3:04:13Oh, 83. Not even close. There was a three in there. How many days has it been? A million? How many turns? Just look at the three guesses. Yeah, do the update here. I've also decided that 86 and 88 are the closest two numbers that you can have in numbers. What? They're so close. Look at them. Max isn't going to do what you asked him He's just saying there's a line That goes down It's so close You're literally saying a line The thing about Dalton Kincaid and Dawson Knox Is that 86 and 88 are basically the same numbers What about 17 and 77 86 and 88 Is way closer No 77 is the same as 17 You just put a little line out there Got to there I would actually say Yeah, 17 and 77.

3:05:07Yeah. No, no. Look at 86. What about 45 and 46? Okay, Max, what about 66 and 68? That's fair. I thought about that as I was saying it. Yeah. What about 50 and 80? 50 and 80 is a good call. What about 68 and 88? 50 and 80. No, I'm still... 50. No. No, because there's two lines in 50 and 80. What about 79 and 99? 79. 99 and 79. That's pretty close. No, not as close as 86 and 88. What about... Someone's going to think that... People are going to think that someone got this, and then they're going to hear this and be like, why the fuck did my Spotify rap say that I listen to this podcast as much as I do?

3:05:51I kind of went off the rails at the end of this show. I like it. Max, what about 66 and 86? 66. Some sick stuff. No, because that's too... Wait, no, there's only one line. Yeah. All right. Okay. Love you guys.

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