Super Wild Card Weekend, Bears Comeback Over The Packers, Josh Allen Superman, Eagles Loss And Patriots/Rams Win + Who's Back Of The Week

31:58We had a couple intentional groundings. I also don't know why the Packers, we can talk about the Packers in a minute and what LaFleur and all that stuff. I don't know why they were in shotgun for the entire second half. Yeah. They were under center for the entire first half, and they diced us. And then they went into shotgun, and it was like a completely different game. Colston Loveland, again, knee jerks could look stupid. Colston Loveland has the potential to be one of the best tight ends in the NFL. He is so good, and he is such a matchup problem. He was basically – He was his go-to. Yeah, it was basically we need to play the Colston Loveland button.

32:32That was it. Over and over and over. It was crazy watching him. Again, we had incredible seats. Shout out game time. We were sitting 50-yard line right behind the camera well. So we had no one in front of us. So we had the cameras, like the actual cameras that were doing the broadcast. So we're basically watching an all-22. And Colson Loveland, there wasn't a Packer that could guard him. It was crazy watching him. DeAndre Swift. He's been maligned at some times. He's had an incredible season. Going into this season, I think there was a lot of like, well, Ben Johnson doesn't have his running back yet, but we'll use DeAndre Swift.

33:10DeAndre Swift had three plays that stuck out. One was on second and 10. I want to say it was, I can't remember the exact score, but it was second and 10 with like five minutes left. He catches that screen pass and has to reverse field. Yeah. And like he was dead to rights. Caleb actually led block for him. He catches that screen pass, reverses field, makes it all the way to the – he gets a seven-yard gain out of it, makes it third and three, and then is third and three on the goal line. You're able to actually run the ball. He then runs in the touchdown. Like if he doesn't – if he gets taken down right there on second and ten on the goal line, we're kind of fucked there because now you have – like it's third and ten and you don't – you know, everything changes.

33:58That was an incredible play. And then he also had that play where he got like 20 yards on the last drive, the DJ Moore touchdown drive, where he got that ball on the sideline and he got like 20 yards to get us into field goal range where we could then take the shot. Yeah. He was awesome. Ozzy Trapillo, who terrible. He got hurt. He I think he tore his patellar, which that's like a terrible, terrible injury. I don't know if you guys noticed. I don't know if they had it on the broadcast. He was able to get off the field and not burn a timeout. because I think it was in the zone where you had to burn a timeout for an injured player, a 10-second runoff, or a timeout.

34:35He hopped off the field with a torn patellar. That's pretty crazy. It was insane. One leg. So he's going to be out, which sucks because he's obviously played very well, and Theo Bennett is going to have to step up, and maybe Brax Jones. But that was just an underrated, how do you do that? Because then the Packers had a 10-second runoff on their last drive. So, yeah, they had that injury that ended up costing them big. That took it from 32 seconds to 22 seconds, which was massive in that one part of the game. Also, the Packers getting a delay of game out of a timeout. I know. Was crazy by LaFleur.

35:11Yeah. That is crazy. Who was the offensive lineman that ran that route at wide receiver? For? For the Bears. I don't know. When they split them out wide. I don't know. Was that a backup? It is always tough watching being at the game because you get one quick replay and that's it. That was an incredible route that he ran. I saw the memes showing me him chugging down the field. I thought he was pretty good. It might have been Theo Benedict. Okay, Theo Benedict. Yeah. Listen, Caleb Williams, you had a great game. Super impressive comeback. It was Theo Benedict. Super impressive comeback. You got to air that fucking ball out to Theo Benedict.

35:51That dude ran a great route down the seam. You got to pass him that ball. Come on, Caleb. Don't be a coward. Yeah. It was a special night. I mean, Memes and Zach, do you guys want to fill in anything? You were there for the whole time. They're talking to each other. Do you guys have any notes from the game? First half was terrifyingly all Packers. Looked like we were going to have a tough evening. And then they, I don't know. What do you guys think that Packers' halftime looked like? Because they just came out completely different team and just got absolutely walked. Yeah. Well, there's, I mean, the Packers, if you look at it, I do think the LaFleur discussion becomes very real now because he's got a year left on his contract.

36:29So you either have to sign him. I think, weirdly, if he had two years left, he wouldn't be fired, if that makes sense. But because he has one year, you have to make the decision. And the Packers are known like, hey, we're not going into a lame duck season. He coaches different with a lead. That's just a fact. Yeah. And you saw it. Like they had the chance to kill us so many times and they didn't do it. If they had just gone, it's as simple as the start of the second quarter. If they go on a five minute drive, that gets them three points. So what was the difference in yardages in the first half?

37:05Because I know that the Bears had 333 yards in the second half. The first half, the offense looked okay for the Bears. They just kept sputtering out once they got around like the 30 yard line, the 20 yard line. But then in the second half, they finished all those drives. The Packers went three and out three times. Then the delay of game, obviously, was really bad. And then more clock management stuff with, like, taking the time out on defense. There were a lot of questionable decisions by Matt LaFleur in this game. Yeah, he did bad clock management. I actually thought Ben Johnson, again, as bad as the first half was, he had very good clock management calling that time out with, like, whatever it was, three minutes left.

37:44He burned two timeouts before the two-minute warning and gave us a shot. Yeah. But yeah, the Packers burned a timeout with 2.07 left on defense. Yeah. And that was crazy. That was insane. Yeah, there's a lot of things that you can point out about the job LaFleur did in this game. Then the postgame handshake, I thought it was tied 1-1 on the season between Johnson and LaFleur. Ben Johnson just ripped past him. Just the sprint by handshake of all sprint by handshakes. embarrassing for LaFleur who was standing there like waiting yeah upright he thought maybe like oh yeah listen we we had our shit but now the season's over he was hoping for like a little embrace like hey uh game respect game iron sharpens iron Ben Johnson was just like fuck you see ya yeah it was a great handshake by Ben Johnson and and saying fuck the Packers in the locker room after I love that and saying you know we heard a lot of noise and and and I saw some Packers fans being like what are they talking about noise there was a little bit they were talking about the hit on Jordan Love and how it was like, we're going to get revenge for it.

38:44Jeff Halfley said to the media scrum, it's not goodbye. I'm going to see you guys next week when we win. Christian Watson, I believe, said he wanted the Bears. So there was enough. And I'm not saying that the Packers got out of line with their statements, but it's pro sports. You find whatever motivation you can find. You make bulletin board material out of anything. Do you think they had any saved bulletin board stuff for halftime? Maybe. Because it felt like maybe they needed – Whatever you told them at halftime, you should have told them that before the game. I saw one wild stat about this.

39:16Okay, yeah. Well, Hank, did you see the story that in the preseason – So the Bears – I think that was the seventh time they've had a comeback like this, under two minutes, losing the game, winning, and then they win the game. They are also – Go ahead. You say the stat because it might be it. We're about to say the exact same thing. Go ahead. Yeah, so they got two players that were part of the 28-3 game on the Bears. They got Grady Jarrett, he was on the Falcons, and they have Joe Tooney, who was on the Patriots. And so they showed that game, and they had both players stand up in front of the team and talk about it in the preseason.

39:51Shout out Grady Jarrett for doing that. Well, you know what? I'll say this because Grady Jarrett has maybe not been the best signing. We could talk about the offseason later. A lot of money has been invested in the defense. it's not very good it's kind of one of those like when Dexter Fowler or not Dexter Fowler um fuck now I'm now I'm forgetting his name the the the oh fuck uh the guy who's on the card why can't I remember his name uh uh Jason Hayward Jason Hayward signed a big deal with the Cubs was not producing what we thought he'd produce but he was part of the speech during the rain delay in game seven it's like you know what he's worth every penny grady jarrett might have been worth every penny for whatever the fuck he said in this in this uh pre-season meeting if so if grady jarrett was like a perennial pro bowler if he had been one of the best players on the bears do you think he would have said no fuck that i don't want to get up in front of the team and talk about this but because he hasn't been that good he's like i gotta earn my contract somehow let's go i'm gonna give the ted talk to end all ted talks about uh about blowing a 28 to 3 lead in the super bowl It was, remember last year in the gambling cave when Stephen Shea asked Gruden about a really bad loss?

41:06And Gruden's like, I don't know, Stephen, why don't you tell me the fucking worst day of your life, too? Yeah. It's like that's pretty much what they asked Grady Jarrett to do. Good team guy. Good teammate. He might be runner-up for teammate of the year. But listen. Joe Thune, also all-time winner. Yeah. He's only not won the division one year in his entire career. He's played on the Patriots, Chiefs, and now Bears. So the stat off of that, the Bears are 3-3 this season when down 10 points or more under five minutes. So under five minutes, down 10 points or more, they're 3-3. The rest of the NFL is a combined 3-158.

41:45It's insane. That's crazy. They just never die. So how many wins against the Packers does Caleb have now? Three? Three. Where does that stack up? He has to be like number one. I think he is. I think Cutler had two. and Mitch might have had one. Since this isn't an all-time stat. No, no, no. I'm saying recently, recently, recently. Since the turn of the century, I would expect that he's probably number one. Oh, yeah. He's got to be. We'll see. Yeah, maybe. But it's not a lot. Let's see. I mean, that's the thing is they've just been. I mean, think about Aaron Rodgers, what, 21-4 or something against the Bears?

42:23So it's got to be either the lead or, yeah, it's got to be the lead. It's pretty insane. And that's just special guy. He's fucking, everything about this team makes no sense. And it's such an insane roller coaster every single game. And I don't want to get off. Okay, here's some stats. Caleb Williams is responsible for 50 % of the Bears wins over the Packers in the last 15 years. Yeah, so it's probably Jay and Mitch combined. He's the first Bears quarterback with two wins against the Packers in a season since Jim Harbaugh did it in 1981. Yeah, yeah. And Ben Johnson, remember, in his press conference said, I'm looking forward to beating them twice a year.

43:08Did it? He did come through in that. Mission accomplished. Mission accomplished. I don't know if you picked up on this watching at the game, but one thing that I've enjoyed about the NFL playoffs so far is the dedicated concierge referee that hangs out next to the coaches. Yeah. They give them their own ref to yell at. Yeah, there's an extended crew. There's like six, there's seven refs on the field. There's like two guys that are responsible for just the balls. And then there's one that is just like glued to the hip of the coach that just takes, he's got to take the most abuse of all time. He's just there to get yelled at.

43:39Also like a personal timeout referee. Yeah. So the coaches don't have to go sprinting up and down the sidelines. But yeah, to your point about LaFleur, it does feel like this might be the end of the road for Matt. in green bay and i think matt lafleur is a great coach i think he'll get hired somewhere else i think he's a great coach i think he has to do something like go on a darkness retreat and figure out um playing with the lead yeah maybe that's that's really it because i mean i i do think he's a very good coach but the playing with the lead thing is a real thing that has been a bugaboo for the packers and that's something that i don't know i don't know how coaches get improvement in that area because it's like a who do you go to to like to learn more about like how to how to keep a lead that feels like it's uh first world problems it's like oh poor me i can't manage a 10-point lead there's a shitload of coaches out there that are like fuck you dude i wish we could have 10-point lead but you really should you really i i know you really should never lose a game up 21-3 and the ball to start the second half you shouldn't yeah especially no turnovers right yeah right yeah jordan love had four touchdowns no turnovers right yeah it's crazy yep so do you feel like if if they do fire the floor you feel like you killed this version of the packers uh caleb caleb did um i'm not gonna take credit for it i i do have to say and we can we can end on this um the whole experience it means zach you guys can back this up like i was saying it the you know when we have the easiest job in the world i have immense gratitude for the job we have and like i know that no one looks at it and is like man those guys have a have a have a tough life because we don't but when you stay when you just are in these walls there's a lot of cynicism online there's a lot of like hate whatever there may be going out and seeing the people is like the best feeling ever because the way people embraced us and like we went to a tailgate we i was going up to meet with an awl shout out andy who invited us to his tailgate i was going to meet him he was like yeah stop by we got one foot into the tailgate lot and the first tailgate was like you guys have to come and drink with us and it was just like and everyone asking for pictures and everyone just being the coolest and just it's just such a great reminder how big the world is and how awesome people are and it's like stepping out from online is just such a nice feeling it is and and people were just so so awesome to us and and embracing me i just it was it was great driving home and just seeing the city on fire and just the love for the city and the love for the bear it's just it was awesome i it was it's it's a night like walking down the concourses everyone floating out of the stadium hugging screaming all of it it was it was just really really special it's a night i'll like never ever forget and and it's just so cool i love this city so much and just seeing like everyone just so happy was was really really awesome also shout out the guy at the tailgate the first tailgate i didn't catch his name probably one of the most attractive guys I've ever seen.

46:39Would you guys back that up? Yeah, that was a hot dude. He looked like he was an Abercrombie Fitch model. He was married, so we don't have a shot with him. He knows who we're talking about, but it was kind of a, I don't want to say breathtaking, but it was like, if you close your eyes and you think of a dude from a private school movie, he was that good looking. Oh, was it J.B. Pritzker? no it's not jv prinsker uh i was talking to white boy rick he's uh one of our one of our employees here at parcel sports he does social he's a big indiana hoosiers fan and a big bears fan and i was asking before the game and i thought i thought about it right after the game ended that if you are a diehard indiana hoosiers football fan and a chicago bears fan oh you probably actually have thought to yourself i think i'm dead and i think this is heaven and that's kind of cool but also maybe i'm a little bit sad that i might be dead i'm not sure if i'm dead or not yet yeah so i just like to say um mike you're out there listening right now mike the who's diehard hoosiers fan and bears fan you are dead and you were getting mentioned on part of my take uh to acknowledge the fact that you're dead and kind of snap you into realizing hey welcome to heaven it's pretty good so enjoy it look around have fun enjoy yourself is this heaven or just netflix yeah mike i i have actually i have like i really hope that there's one guy one of my one of my best friends is that is an indiana bears fan and he's just it's just every single this is the best weekend ever for that guy it's the best weekend ever uh very different teams one team leaves zero doubt the other team you just doubt the whole time but you know you shouldn't doubt because of what they've proven.

48:26Well, one team cheats and the other team does it through hard work and dedication and preparation. We'll get to that. We'll talk about that game. But, yeah, it was a night I'll never forget. I really appreciate everyone who showed love. And it was also one of the cool moments was so Saturday, during the day I was just trying to kill time. I took my kids out. We did a bunch of stuff. And in the car I was telling them, like, I'm going to the Bears game tonight. And they're in that zone of, like, they don't really watch football, but they're happy when I'm happy kind of thing. So they ask about the Bears all the time, and they want to know.

48:59And I had to break the news to my son that if the Bears lose, the season's over. He's like, what do you mean? I was like, well, it's the playoffs, so if we lose, it's done. And then this morning waking up and telling them that the Bears won, and they were super pumped. It was like, this is fucking sick. Has there been any confusion in your family about the fact that now when you win, you're happy as opposed to seasons past when he tried to teach them about tanking. Yeah, the tanking. When we lose, that's actually good. This is why Kyle Long, shout out Kyle Long, the night he stayed at my house, and he was like, we can't be teaching tanking in this house.

49:33Yeah. He was like, you're right, we can't. Have they understood that winning is good now? Yeah, they're very pumped. They're very, very excited. I don't think that if the Bears lost, I don't know if they would actually be upset, but the happiness is all I care about. Yeah. I think it would gloss right over them. So, incredible night. Hank, do you have any recommendations for Big Cat or like pointers for how to handle success? The ride goes. No, I got to keep it rolling. They never die. Team of destiny. Just never die. I bet them plus 470. It probably got up to like plus 1000. I don't even know.

50:05But I was like, I have to show respect. I think the highest I saw was 8 to 1. Yeah. Also, you want the Eagles or Rams? Oh, Max is saying. I mean, I got to see this x-ray. I want the Eagles for you. I got to see this x-ray with Stafford. Stafford's not playing. I got to see this x-ray. I'm fine with taking the easiest route possible. It doesn't really matter because whoever the Bears play next, they're going to be down and look really, really bad, and then we're just going to have to start playing. Yeah. And we're going to just get to that point. Zach, can you tell? Zach was like two steps away from Freddie Gibbs and Common last night.

50:49That was pretty cool. Yeah, it was pretty awesome. Freddie Gibbs, Common, Spike Lee, everybody's hanging out at the field before the game. Yeah, we got field passes before the game. We were down there. I basically, there's a picture out there of me. Like, I really don't know what happened in the moment, but like essentially trying to steal Pete Crow Armstrong, I would say, is the best way. Did you see that? Yeah, you scooped him. Yeah, I don't know what was going on with that. I was just so excited to see him. But yeah, it was very cool down on the field before the game. And it started snowing.

51:20It was like a snow globe there. It was a magical night. Yeah, the snow before the game was awesome. A thought just occurred to me. If you're the Arizona Cardinals, why not hire Matt LaFleur if he gets fired? I think he will. And then you bring in Malik Willis. Dude, listen. Our good friend Tom Fernelli did text me asking if I wanted to help with the narrative. But does Malik Willis win that game last night? I'm just there's something about Malik Willis get a couple first downs in the second half when you need it with your feet and keep the clock moving there's something about Malik just something interesting to ask I mean yeah love did have four touchdowns but no turnovers maybe they should have put in Malik the closer no but if I'm the Cardinals I would think about doing that yeah like they seem to be a pretty good combo yeah so memes and Zach you guys have anything else from the game appreciate you guys coming we got so So we did a good job of bundling up for something happened in the second half.

52:20I don't know if it was the wind or anything, but I could not feel my entire lower half for the entire second half. It was cold. I lost feeling in my hands in the first half, but it did feel like some sort of dark energy that the Bears had has been lifted because it was a perfect scenario where the Bears came all the way back. and then it was essentially the Aaron Rodgers meme where it was like they're all celebrating with two minutes left on the clock. And I thought you guys were dead. Dead. In my head, I was thinking about what I would say on this show being like, hey, I was wrong. I said it was a 50-50 game.

52:58We got our asses kicked. We're still so far away. This sucks. Everything sucks. Didn't happen. I just want to say for the record, before the Eagles-Niners game, I want the Eagles-Bears matchup. I would like very much to see the Eagles-Bears matchup. I want to see a big game match. Listen, again, whoever the Bears play, we're going to look bad to start, and then we're going to have to figure it out. And then it's just a question of can we figure it out? And if we figure it out, it's going to be awesome. The ride will keep going. What are you going to say, Zach? Finish this off. All the Bears fans around us were in a position to where they had all the right to be down in the dumps, like, fuck this, it's over.

53:36We lost. nobody was in that yeah not really a lot of guys in the headspace everyone was like oh this is this is where we turn it up and we'll get it get it done and they did yeah the guy sitting next to you uh who i had maybe about a thousand high fives with he just kept on saying we're a second half team we're a second half team that was i know that it sounds crazy but it really was the vibe in the stadiums like we we're not giving up we just have to you know put a couple plays together Can we talk about the new good luck ritual that we have before Bears games? Yes. I walked into this, had no idea what the fuck was happening.

54:10I still don't really understand it. But yeah, maybe you can explain it better than I can. So we have a guy, Mikey Betts, who is a he's one of my favorite guys. He works on Frank Fleming Corporation Incorporated. He texted. We have a group chat with everyone, all the Bears fans in this office. And he texted and said, we have to have a new we have to have a good luck charm for the game. um i was like okay we're gonna start this in the playoffs he's like yeah we have to start it the new good luck charm is taking a bite of ramen that's not cooked just a brick a brick and then taking a shot of rumplemins and i kept on saying mikey i think this is a bad idea to start a new good luck thing before the playoffs like we should have done this in the regular season to the point where zach memes eddie and i got in the car at 3 30 to go tailgate and I turned on my car and I said oh fuck Mikey Betts isn't here yet if we don't eat this ramen he will never forgive us if we lose this game so we got out of the car went back inside sat there for 20 minutes I guess we're just eating ramen now just it's not just the brick of ramen you also put the seasoning yeah Mikey had he said that he had a vision while he was driving which that's a whole another question but yeah uh the vision was you take the brick you put that brick in your face you sprinkle the ramen powder on it you take a bite and then you you chase it with not just rumple mints but like off-brand rumple mints yeah and it worked so you have to do it now yeah you can't stop doing this no of course it's the birth of a new tradition and and not only like even if we lose in the next round we have to do it next year because this was such a big game the biggest game it this game was everything i mean it was just it was i'll remember for the of my life like I it's one of those things like it's it's rare being able to go to one of these games and be like yeah that's that was that was it that was that was something the you you'll I mean yeah I'm mumbling now but that's how I feel it was just it was incredible okay before we get to the Sunday games DraftKings every week in the NBA stars rise legends are made and one player rules them all DraftKings Sportsbook and official sports betting partner the NBA is bringing back king of the court and now it's every tuesday of the season here's how it works draft kings is putting up 1 million in bonus bets each week opt in apply your token and place a five dollar pre-game bet on the nba star you think will dominate each tuesday if your pick finishes the night leading the league in points rebounds and assists they're crowned king of the court and you win your share of 1 million in bonus bets in this season there's a new way to track the action the king of the court leaderboard inside the app before tip off see the top 10 stars in points rebounds and assists while games are live watch your pick climb the ranks and when it's over find out exactly where the stars stacked up and if you become crowned a winner download the draft king sportsbook app use code take that's code take to win a share of 1 million in bonus bets if your player is king of the court in partnership with draft kings the crown is yours gambling problem call 1-800 gambler In New York, call 877-8HOPENY or text HOPENY 467369.

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57:54I had one last thing, by the way, Bears Packers. There's now a, we're having a classless off. And it kind of, so we recorded some of the show earlier in the day. And since the classless office started, people are very upset at Ben Johnson for using the F word, which we would never swear on this podcast. Fraud? Yeah. No, he's saying fuck, fuck. He's saying fuck, fuck the Packers. I find it very funny. We have a longstanding rule on this show that if you. unironically claims someone is being classless you're already you've already lost yeah so stay classy is trending right now yeah and uh if you say stay classy you're on the wrong side yeah we had a whole bit about it when we started the show it amounts to just somebody being mad that someone else is happy this is uh and listen this is obviously not all packers fans because a lot of them i don't think give a shit i'd say the majority of them don't give a shit but a few online give a shit and it's just very funny because this is you know aaron rogers uh said i own you i fucking own you to the entire Soldier Field crowd on a hot mic.

59:02And I know that's a little different because he's not the coach. They had at the – I think Clay Matthews at the draft said the Bears still suck, which Packers fans love to say. Jordan Love tweeted like the Happy Father's Day. Yep. So it's a rivalry. Let's have a rivalry. They're shocked because the shoe's never been on the other foot. Right. What does it matter? This is what happens. And guess what? you'll get over it it'll be all right and it's good i'm glad they're mad i'm i'm glad you should actually be glad too oh i am no no i find it i'm having a great time you should be seeing these takes fly around you should be pumped that finally packers fans correct care enough about the bears to actually be upset about how the bears act in victory yeah yeah it's it's just a very funny uh idea that we have like uh al duke said remember when tom landry would do this after winning a wild card game me neither coaches used to have class now everybody just throws f-bombs around total losers go paint your qb's fingernails yeah oh and then dickie v this one broke my heart because i love dickie v but he said totally classless attitude and winning by ben johnson coach of the uh bears in the fab fab comeback to beat the packers main theme should have been the gutty comeback not the childish fuck packers comment what do you think coach k would have done in that situation big cat coach would coach k have said fuck the packers well no no coach k would have walked into the packers locker room and told matt lafleur hey you coached a great game you got a bright future ahead of you i'm sure that we're going to be great rivals from here on out and you're too good of a coach to be making those kinds of mistakes that you made in the second half and i can't wait to see you clean those up and he also would have if anyone had caught him saying fuck the packers on a live mic he would have sent him to siberia where pete goddad is staying that's true and burn the tape and uh and al dukes is right because like think about the old school coaches that we love so much like you're woody hazes yeah guys that knew how to handle victory your bob knights yeah those kind of guys real men's rick majerus yeah the strong silent type gary cooper no this is good they listen and coach awesome coaches have always done this right it's just that we didn't have cameras in every single locker room getting the post-game speeches to then try to monetize on social media afterwards so we never got to see how your vince lombardis would act outside of a few like curated clips that were put out like by the lombardi estate to make him look like he was you know above reproach as a coach yeah i did see the one clip that was great was from brian billick it must have been 25 years ago and it was uh nfl films was in there and he said you know great game gutsy win and then he said everyone turned the cameras off turn the cameras off and the cameras went down and didn't turn off and then just goes fuck the titans yeah this has been happening in locker rooms for all of time jesus christ so i i i love that people are this upset uh yeah it is it really is like you know the the the little guy punches back like ow that's not fair don't fight like this yeah what the fuck dude but it really it's a very funny idea to to lose a game and then and then and then quote classiness that really is the biggest loser move you can have yeah i mean they're they're clinging to some stages of cope right now yeah and and they'll get over it and the rivalry is gonna be that much better moving forward it's gonna be great it's gonna be great uh okay sunday sunday bills jags this was the the trilogy of the of the three games that we had in a row where the team winning underneath the under the two minute warning did not end up winning the game yeah bills jags bills 27 jags 24 josh allen josh allen simply refused to admit that he was hurt and uh he just turned into superman i don't know what kind of drugs they shot him up with i don't know how he got back from that that knee bend that he had he got his his bell rung early in the game too he got his hand fucked up he had like three separate injuries that he he was getting checked out for and he was just like you know what fuck it i think we we called that and we're not exactly geniuses for saying that josh is going to do some fuck shit in the playoffs because it's what josh allen does uh but he all the talk about him being injured while i think he was injured for the second part of the season he just doesn't care in the playoffs yeah he's like fuck it and speaking of classlessness big cat you see what what the jaguars did outside their locker room outside the visiting locker room oh no man what happened They painted a giant mural outside the visitor's locker room.

1:03:29Okay. You know what the mural says? What? It says Duval. Then underneath that said, ranked most intimidating chant in the NFL. So that's the last thing that you have to see before you go in. Who ranked it? I think it was a guy on the internet. I think it was a guy on the internet put together a list. Yeah. And then the Jaguar said, we're going to put that outside and it's going to be a warning. to every like that cave diver thing that says like warning turn around you're going to die if you go past this point that's a pretty intimidating sign this is worse do you think that they showed so if they pulled everyone in like all the chance yeah do you think that it was the duval chant or do you think they showed them liam cohen trying it is introductory press conference like oh i don't want to be that guy freaks me out intimidating in a very different way but It's still intimidating.

1:04:20I think it was a webcam shot of the pool. Yeah. People chanting it in the pool is pretty rough. But I was thinking about other chants. The only one I can think might come close, maybe the skull chant in Minnesota. Yeah. Yeah. Skull. Although it always feels like a soccer chant, right? Yeah. Or if you're like starting Denmark or maybe it didn't. I don't know. If you're trying to quit tobacco, that would be a tough one to deal with. I actually think an underrated one is when in the Broncos, when they yell in, come. Complete. I always liked that one. Now, if the Vikings wanted to amp it up, they should just start chanting nine.

1:04:55Yeah. Make it sound like a Rammstein concert. Yeah. It was cool to see the Jags in a playoff game again. It was cool to see the colors. It was very cool. So let's talk a little more to Josh Allen, though, because he was incredible. He was pretty much perfect. He was 28 for 35, 273 yards, a touchdown, and two rushing touchdowns. Perfect under pressure, 14 for 16, 195 yards. That pass he made to Brandon Cooks on the last drive, that 36-yard pass, I saw the all-22 of it, and he released it well before Brandon Cooks was even close to open. He basically played the defensive backs perfectly and read it perfectly.

1:05:33He was, again, yeah, you listed it, like foot. He came in with a foot, got checked for a concussion, hurt his knee, hurt his finger, was not going to be denied, was Superman out there. And the Bills defense, which is not very good against the rush, and the Jags maybe should have tried to take more time and limit possessions. They had a pretty good game in terms of secondary. Tredavious White had a really good game. He forced that second interception that clinched the game. So the Bills did just enough. And it was the conversation going into this playoffs has been it's Josh Allen's playoffs to lose.

1:06:08And I never really prescribed to that theory because I think the Bills are a very flawed team. but today's game proved why that might be true just because he's Josh Allen and we said it in the pre in on Friday's show I think the Jags are the better team overall but they don't have Josh Allen and when Josh Allen what can't you know he he has the ability to just be like I'm not going to be denied yeah and that's what he did today yeah and their their pass defense is really good their rush defense is not good at all no and the Jaguars just straight up gashed him up I don't know why they stopped running the football as much but uh i think between their two running backs they were averaging like over i think over seven yards per carry between the two of them and uh the bills didn't seem like they had any answer for it whatsoever yeah they should have and this is all hindsight trevor lawrence so he started that the picky through in the first half was bad obviously the pick at the end you know it happens because you're trying to press and you have 45 seconds or whatever it was to try to make something work.

1:07:08He did have nice drives in the middle. It's just I feel like the Jaguars should have basically gone in with the game plan of we cannot let Josh Allen have the ball. Let's just control the clock and run it down their throat. They averaged 6.7 yards per carry. Yep. And overall, this Jaguars season is a massive win. It sucks that they lost this game, but it is a massive win. They have – it feels like everything started to come together. Liam Cohn's a really good coach. They have an awesome wide receiver room, and they have a great running. I mean, Jacoby Myers, Parker Washington, Brian Thomas might be their third best receiver.

1:07:43Which is crazy, yeah. It's crazy. At the start of the season, if you had said that, that's nuts. Yeah, nuts. The question is, is Trevor Lawrence, who was playing at that insane level the last eight weeks of the season and then had two mistakes today, are we going into the offseason saying is that more like Trevor Lawrence or was it the last eight weeks of the season? I think you're pumped. I think you're a Jags fan. you're you're pumped about everything not not just like liam cohen and the new regime uh the like 30 year old stat nerd that is now your gm you're excited about those things james gladstone yeah you're super excited about trevor i think that you're you don't even have doubts anymore but he wasn't great today he wasn't great and he hasn't been great in the playoffs and i like trevor lawrence i believe in trevor lawrence i'm just saying you know how these playoff games go yeah especially as you get longer i mean if john if if the bills had lost this game the conversation would have been Josh Allen can't win it even though Josh Allen they showed the stat he like leads every single stat in the playoffs I think he's the only playoff quarterback to have 25 passing touchdowns and 8 rushing touchdowns ever in the NFL yeah I mean the conversation would also be like Harbaugh or McDaniel right who do you want right and then they win their first playoff game the Bills win their first playoff game on the road since 1992 and Josh Allen has gone six straight eight seasons with winning at least one playoff game.

1:09:00Yeah. But this is how it goes. I never won on the road. It's so stupid that this sport, you know, if you lose in the playoffs, it becomes crisis. Yeah. We just got done talking about the Packers potentially firing Matt LaFleur. No, I think that you're very excited about Trevor. You have some doubts about whether or not Trevor can be perfect all the time like he was for the last eight weeks. Right. But I think you're super excited about the future of the team. I agree. I also appreciate the reporter after the game asking that really nice question to Liam Cohen. Did you hear her? Yeah. It was a great question.

1:09:32I don't think there was a question. It actually was indistinguishable from when we interviewed Joe Burrow after they won the national championship. And we were both probably blowing a.12 BAC. And I asked a rambling question that was just pretty much, hey, Joe, your team is awesome. You guys are awesome. As two guys that went to journalist school, though, I feel like Jake Marsh has got to be so mad about this. Tell me, honestly, if you're Jake Marsh and you're a real capital J journalist, you hear that question, you think that took away valuable time from a real reporter in the room who was going to ask Liam Cohen to talk about what the season meant to him.

1:10:08And we didn't get to hear that. We just got to hear a lady compliment Liam Cohen. Yeah. I was disgusted by it. Yeah. Talk about that play you reviewed. Yeah. We needed that instead. Do you have it, Max? The reporter with Liam Cohen? Is it me or were the spots really weird in this game? Yeah. Like the referee is spotting, but they had trouble spotting everything. Well, here's what I think is happening in the NFL now, in this league-wide. Well, first of all, for some reason, adding two extra people on the ref crew seems to fuck them up. I think what's happening is everyone's passing the buck. So when they add two extra people, they're like, oh, well, someone else will get it.

1:10:47And then when they have the virtual spotting technology, they're essentially saying we'll just spot it wherever and we'll just send it up there well yeah which doesn't really do anything and again what they do with the virtual spotting technology is they they take the spot from the ref yeah they're right the ref puts the ball down on the field and then they've got surveillance drones or whatever they've got an m80 reaper hovering above and they're like okay let's just use the technology to see where this ball is on the field yeah so there's no actual measurement of where forward progress stopped being done by the computer Correct.

1:11:19It's just them looking at a nice graphic display of it, and that way it looks more official. And I miss the chain gang. We said this when they brought this in. I fucking miss the chain gang because the chain gang, you get the pageantry, you get the ritual of having guys who are in their 70s jog out on the field very slowly, and they put the chain down. Then you get to see where the chain goes, if the ball is shorter. And if you're rooting for it to be a first down, when they put that stick down and the nose is poking out the side of it, then you get it's almost like a second win that you get on that play it's the javian clowny we wouldn't have had javian clowny and all the the craziness with that play yeah happen if we don't have that the i'm just realizing now that the virtual spot measurement technology or whatever the fuck they call it it's no different than our very own steven shea predicting every nfl game with his brain putting it into a spreadsheet and calling it data yeah and then being like look at this data yeah they're having us look at this technology like well the technology said it was the first out no no you did yeah they're calling it ai we also had the the the female ref who i think other than the spots they did a pretty good job she did the very i've never seen it before the first down off a fumble with her single finger yeah one finger yeah okay so the reporter with liam cohen what did she say exactly okay she goes i just want to tell you congratulations on your success young man you hold your head up all right you guys have had the most magnificent season You did a great job out there today, so you just hold your head up, okay?

1:12:47Ladies and gentlemen, Duval, you're the one. Keep it going. We've got another season. Take care, and much continued success to you and your entire team. And then Liam Cohen looked back, and he answered a question, and he said, thank you. I appreciate it. Wow. Beautiful. And, yes, we are probably still waiting for Liam Cohen to explain one of his decisions. Really touching. Really, really touching. What do we think about the Bills going to Denver? i like josh allen's josh allen josh allen's going to denver and and the bills are trying to do this thing where they're going to try to win a super bowl without really any money spent on wide receivers brandon cooks like you mentioned brandon cooks gabe davis got hurt in this game gabe davis got hurt keon coleman had a good reception a nice little run after catch they've got some tight ends but it's the josh allen show and uh i'm just not gonna bet against josh allen until proven otherwise yeah that was my entire reasoning for this game i was like yeah i think the Jags are better, but it's Josh Allen.

1:13:43Yeah. And he did exactly that. Now we should say goodbye to Highmark Stadium. Yes, officially. Officially there will be no more games in Highmark. For a while we didn't know when the Chargers were playing against the Patriots. Do you think the stadium got to watch the game to see if they were going to have another? They probably put up on the Jumbo Trough. Yeah, they probably did. This does mean we're one step closer to getting the Troughs, which will be awesome. Trough market went crazy after I talked about it. I really I kind of screwed myself on that one. I think we're good. I think we're good.

1:14:14I think we're going to get a trough in here, and we're going to get it. I had a conversation with one of the guys in our office who does a lot of the stuff around here, who's very good, Chris. And he's like, are you serious about installing a trough? And I was like, yeah. He's like, ah, what's wrong? He's like, well, we are leasing this place. It's like a 10-year lease. He's like, and that is a pretty big renovation in the bathroom. I was like, all right, well, tell anything about bathroom. Well, I told him I was like, listen, you can just like someday when we leave this building, you don't think they're going to want that trough.

1:14:50I'll leave it to them. I don't care. And if they don't, I'll take it back. Yeah. You know what? This is going to drive the rent up. Yeah, we did. We did them a favor. Yeah, we got this. All right. We have a giant kitchen that's got plumbing in it. Why don't we just put the trough next to Donnie's kitchen? The one question. So we did get in touch. Thank you everyone who hit us up about getting us in touch with the Steiner Sports Auction guys. So we're going to figure out a price. But I think we have the ability to potentially get it signed by a couple Bills players. Is that weird? Like signed like when you write your name in the snow?

1:15:22Yeah. No, they're going to sign it. They're going to sign the trough. Oh, okay. Yeah. With like handwriting. Yeah, with like a Sharpie. All right, cool. That would be pretty cool, right? It'd be great. Yeah. So maybe we'll request that. Let's do it. Yeah. Oh, I'm excited. We're going to be pissing in troughs, boys. We're all going to see each other. A lot. This is a great thing to buy. I don't know why there's so many doubters and naysayers out there. There actually aren't. There are a lot of people who are like, this is great. I've heard a few people that are like, this is kind of gross. Why are you doing this?

1:15:52Oh, well, I'd like a list. Give me a list. I'll tell you why. Because it's awesome. Yeah. Give me a list. We do kick-ass shit. I'm sorry for you if you don't do kick-ass shit. and it's also i like to think you know it's it's not a uh secret that we've we've done well for ourselves throughout the course of this podcast i like to think of ourselves it's like batman if he was a 12 year old boy and just like i have money to buy the dumbest shit possible i'm not buying armor i'm not buying a batmobile i'm buying a thing that we can piss in and an ice cream machine no disrespect what are you gonna do now that you're on netflix buy it buy a thing we can all see each other's cocks on oh trough came on netflix that'd be good they probably would to do that we just have to have the rated r once they figure out yeah like live streaming yeah yeah yeah a live stream of of the live of live streams i want a list of the people who are not upset listen we have other bathrooms yeah they can go there and pissing your trough is great you don't you don't make a mess you can never make a mess and if you're saying like oh well it's sexist and And it excludes the females.

1:16:54No, they can use it too. Yeah, they can use it. Yeah. I'm not saying that women employees of Barstow Sports can't pee in a trough. They certainly can't. Wait, wouldn't a trough for women just be a floor with a drain in it? It'd be a hole. Yeah, it's just a floor with a drain. Yeah, a fountain. Yeah. Oh. They just go in and they just drop trough and they just piss on the floor. My all-time most traumatic pissing experience. It's a shower. A trough for a woman is a shower. It was at a concert in Northern Virginia when I was like 14, 15 years old. And in the men's room there, they had a urinal that was straight up just like a birdbath.

1:17:30I'm talking about 15, 20-foot diameter birdbath, circular firing squad. So everybody just went up to it and pissed towards each other in the middle. Yeah. That is a bad place to take a piss as a 14-year-old. That is very bad. Yeah. Do you also remember Jerome Bettis' restaurant in Pittsburgh where they had the urinals? You could, above it, there was a two-way mirror you could look out, which that always was very weird to me. At JMU, they have a - That feels like something Kirby Puckett would have done. They have a toilet that you can crap on overlooking the field and watch the game. Oh, that's cool.

1:18:04It's pretty nice, yeah. What were you going to say, Max? Do you still follow that it's not the food trough? We could get a food trough. Don't want one. That would be cool, though. imagine if it was just a trough full of french fries every day we just walk by it it could be a salad bar that actually is just our kitchen yeah we have a trough every Sunday yeah I actually would like to what do you estimate the amount of wings we've had in this office this football season I want to say it's probably and I know people are going to be like that's insane I'm going to say it's like 5 ,000 i want to say that we get we probably get 200 we get like you think 200 every week i think so i think those trays are 50 we get four okay yeah i'd say probably 150 to 200 every week yeah times 19 and then there's a couple saturdays and a couple of college football yeah it's a lot of wings it's a lot of wings it's pretty disgusting hey we love we love life shout out wing nuts Yeah.

1:19:12Shout out wing nuts. Hope you guys go to the Super Bowl this year. Yeah. Yeah. They're going. We've always said we're going to buy Ed and Alicia a ticket. Yep. If the Bills get to the Super Bowl. Yeah, do a little pop-up restaurant there. All right, so overall A-plus year, A year for the Jags? Yeah, A. And winning a playoff game would have made it A-plus? I'd say A, yeah. It was an A year. Yeah. You won your division. And everything feels like it's going up. Yep. And you have now the ability to tweak some of the things. You have some young talent that's really good. It was cool seeing those teal uniforms back in the playoffs.

1:19:48Jaguars are going up. And we got a Josh Allen on Josh Allen's sack today. We did. That was kind of nice. We did. Okay, next game. San Francisco 23, Philadelphia 19. By the way, real quick, how far do you think Josh can throw the ball up in Denver? Oh, man. Probably like 90 yards. Over those mountains. He should try. He should try. He absolutely should try. I'm excited to watch a playoff football in Denver. It just feels a little different. It does, yeah. It feels fun. And they did play last year. That was an ass kick. Yeah. Philadelphia loses to the San Francisco 49ers 23-19. Max, would you like to start or would you like us to start?

1:20:29You can start. Okay. The Niners are, by any which way they can, And they have another devastating injury this game with George Kittle going out within Achilles, which sucks. He drank an entire tequila bottle in the locker room. Diana, great reporting by her. That rocks. Yeah, that rocks. That sucked. It was windy. It was gross. The defense of the Niners is very injured, but they found a way. And they found a way through Christian McCaffrey being Christian McCaffrey and having, what do you have, like 115 yards, I think, total and two touchdowns. They had Demarcus Robinson, who his season high for yards on the season in the game was 44.

1:21:15Two catches for 44 was a season high game. He had one touchdown all season in 14 games. He went six for 111 and a touchdown. they had Kyle Yushek catching the ball George Kittle goes out and they're just like alright Kyle Yushek you beat George Kittle he caught four passes for 49 yards any which way and then it really Jawan Jennings the trick play the touchdown that seals the game was a ballsy ballsy play in the wind in the circumstances but it was an incredible win for the 49ers they just gutted it out So the Niners have now won 11 consecutive wildcard or divisional games. Wow. And it's been 23 years since they lost in a playoff game that was not the NFC Championship game.

1:22:04This is what they do. They go to the NFC Championship game. This is what they do. It never felt like a real great offense on either side of the football. Quinion Mitchell had a great game. Yep. I think Brock Purdy played pretty well. He did. He did enough. He did enough to win. he made a couple boneheaded mistakes and had some bad picks but besides those i thought brock purdy like he his ability to improvise a little bit and his ability to buy a few seconds in the pocket and wait for somebody to get open that was the difference in the game and uh and juan jennings with the unbelievable pass you know juan jennings do you know who juan jennings he was a recruited as a uh dual threat qb yep uh do you know who he was ranked ahead of in his class any guesses Joe Burrow.

1:22:49Darnold. Darnold, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson. Sheesh. Yeah. So he was the fifth-ranked quarterback. Darnold was six. Joe Burrow was seven. Lamar Jackson was nine in that class. He now has the third highest amount of postseason passing touchdowns from any Tennessee volunteer. Wow. Behind Peyton Manning with 40. Yeah. And Pat Ryan, who has five. He's got two now. He's got two. I also saw Ian Hartitz on, I guess I said his name right. It's Hartitz. Yeah. H-A-R-T-I-T-Z. That's Hartitz. Hartitz. Hartitz. Yeah. Ian Hartitz tweeted out, career postseason touchdown passes, Juwan Jennings two, Derek Carr one.

1:23:35Remember Mike Thomas? Yeah. He retweeted that. Oh, shit. I forgot about Mike Thomas. I've got maybe stat of the day. Okay. Stat of the day. From Dante Kopp-Flem. Juwan Jennings had more completed passes over 15 air yards than Jalen Hurts did. He had one. Jalen Hurts over five. This was the most – like, okay, I want to hear Max's take on all this, But my take from the outside here is that Eagles fans are not happy, but maybe a little relieved because this game was essentially every single game they watched this year where the defense was very good and the offense was completely unimaginative and they had spurts where they looked good.

1:24:24Saquon was good in the first half. Then they stopped the run. They couldn't pass. It was painful to watch. And it's almost like being put down for the season and being like, you know what? It's better that this is over right now because the offense was so bad. It was never going to happen. And now you can actually make meaningful changes. I saw Dan Orlovsky said he watched the tape. They were on the Eagles final drive to try to win the game. They ran 10 plays on the full drive. four of those plays of the 10 were either a repeat a previous play from that drive or a repeat from a play they had already run that game so they just didn't have enough plays they were just running the same plays that just didn't work over and over i mean there it was coach dugs yeah it was me it was if i were the offensive coordinator the philadelphia eagles and i just kept on doing mesh over the middle throwing to the same receiver and then every now and then running the ball behind the tack.

1:25:23Fourth and 11, it was four verts. It was the Madden play four verts that every single kid plays, uses when they want to get a big play. Max, did you catch on the sideline what happened before that play? People keep showing that. I don't really understand. Okay, so I saw it in real time, and I was like, that was weird. So they go to the sideline. You've got Kevin Petullo. You've got Nick Sirianni. You've got Jalen Hurts. And Kevin Petullo is talking to Jalen Hurts. and then he tosses a play out there. He says a play. And then he looks at Nick Sirianni and Sirianni gives this look like, I don't know, but if that's what you think, if you're like passionate about that play, I guess I trust you.

1:26:04And then Jalen Hurts was like, I guess he's telling me to run this play. And everybody was like, it better work because Sirianni obviously did not like it, whatever he said. And then they went out there and did that. And the fact that it was for Verts is kind of crazy. And also like Petulo, yes, bad offensive coordinator. I feel like Sirianni's got to step in right there Like if he doesn't like to play 100 % That's your job Yeah look at his face Yeah watch it And he was just like Did you see it? Yeah I mean you can't see Hurts' face So I As much as Everyone Yeah Kevin Petulo That's it? Wait no he says it and then Sirianni gives a look like Dude Yeah Alright He's like okay You sure?

1:26:53And Jalen Hurts is like, I don't know. People are going to come after Jalen Hurts. I don't know what you do with some of these plays. I don't put a ton of blame on Jalen Hurts. He won the Super Bowl MVP last year. I just don't put him as the top of the Eagles' problems. There's also three drops on third down. A.J. Brown had a horrendous game. He was fighting with the coaches. No, not true. Tom Brady said they've got a great relationship. He was yelling at the coach. I mean, he was. I don't know what else. He was yelling at the coach. He can have a good relationship with the coach and still yell at him on the sideline because he was late getting off of the field, and Sirianni was trying to tell him to get off the field so he didn't get a penalty.

1:27:41Sirianni sprinted over to him. Because we were about to get a penalty. And then AJ got in his face. And Big Dom, thank God Big Dom was there, Hank. I know. No, I'm just sad the Eagles lost because it just means no more Big Dom for the year. Also, Big Dom, great hands. Better hands than A.J. Brown. Yeah, good catch. Good catch. Yeah, you're absolutely right. It was exactly what we saw all season. It was exactly what we were scared of all season, and the offense just absolutely failed. The defense was dominant like it had been all year. There was a couple lapses in the defense, but for the most part, They were the only ones that really kept you in that game in the second half.

1:28:20And the offenses just didn't get it done. Whether it was Sirianni Hurts, A.J. Brown, Devontae Smith, Kevin Petullo, everyone was a huge part of the problem. Kevin Petullo has to be fired tomorrow. He has to be fired already. Yeah. And it hurts. Every time the season ends, it's not a good feeling. It sucks. You don't get to watch your team play football anymore. What about last year? Well, I didn't have it last year. It ended. Every time. Yeah. Okay. It's not every time. He got you on that one. Okay. Yes. But we won the Super Bowl last year. And I mean, this team was just never going to do it. This team was never going to do it.

1:29:07It was never going to win the Super Bowl this year. This isn't one of those losses where you see it and it's like, oh this was our shot this was a team that was our shot i was like this team was never that team so it so it doesn't hurt as bad as like some other losses like playoff losses do but and now you can go out and get your coordinator early yeah pft uh max well not that early because other teams are already getting coordinators who's hired coordinators didn't someone uh the commanders did. David Blau. Sorry. David Blau's off the market, buddy. Blau are weird. Should have fired him already.

1:29:47Should have fired him already, man. Yeah. Tough break. It's tough. Yeah, I mean, I was already looking for new coordinators last week. Well, no, but they already got their new coordinator. Blau. Hottest name in the base. Remember, you were like, because we fired Kingsbury, we're going to get a super hot name, and it's Blau. It's Blau. Yeah. It's Blau, baby. You got a problem with Blau? Sounds like you got a problem with Blau. This is the first I'm hearing of Blau. You missed the news? There was big news. Is that how you spell it? Yeah, yeah. Purdue Boilermaker. Yeah, Detroit Lions. Oh, I actually remember this.

1:30:22Yeah, he's awesome. Did we have him on the show? I don't know. His sister is, I think his sister's brother, no, his wife's brother is Christian Gonzalez from the Patriots. That's awesome. Fun fact. Yeah, Max, I had a question. So you're already behind in the coordinator, just so we're clear. Sorry. Yes. PFT. I have a question. What does this mean for the window? It actually makes it perfect for the window. What do you mean? I'm just saying, like, where are we in the window right now for the Eagles? Next year you're going to win the Super Bowl or at least go there. It's a – there's a theme here.

1:31:01Win the Super Bowl, losing the first round. Or go to the Super Bowl, losing the first round. It's not only that. It's 2022, 14-3, reach Super Bowl. 2023, 11-6, losing wild card. 2024, 14-3, reach Super Bowl. They won it. 2025, 11-6, losing wild card. So they're now four years in a row. They just had the same season. Yeah. And we're going to go get a coordinator, and we'll be back next year. Do you think, is Lane coming back next year?

1:31:35Yes. Yes, Lane will be back. Oh, officially reported by Max. Yeah. He's not going to end that way. No, he's not going to end that way. Need some offensive line. Felt like that was a big part of the Eagles. The play calling was number one. You guys couldn't run the ball like you could in years past. Like, Saquon started to break a couple today, and it felt like the Eagles were going to find their mojo, and then there was just a bunch of negative run plays in the second half. There was penalties. There were so many penalties that just fucked. they were playing behind the sticks the entire second half.

1:32:08This is a quintessential, like, the Eagles told us who they were all year. Yes. And then they were that. Right. There's no, like, fireworks, blah, blah, blah. Like, that is what it was. Right. So we knew that we were going to get to this point eventually. So it, like, we were trying to convince ourselves that we weren't. But deep down, we knew. We knew this offense was not good enough to win a Super Bowl. So it's. Who do you want? Now that we've established Blau's off the market, who are your top guys? Can't get David Blau. Your top guys. So don't even think about it. McDaniel. Mike. Mike. Are you concerned at all about his very close relationship with Dan Quinn affecting his ability to call plays for the Eagles in games against the Commanders?

1:32:49He'd probably tank those games. You guys signed an offensive coordinator? David Blau, yeah. So he can't go to the Commanders? I didn't say that. Yeah, he didn't say that. I said, if he is your offensive coordinator, he'll probably tank those games against his best friend in the world, Dan Quinn. Right. Yeah, no, I guess that's something I got to think about. Okay, thank you. You should probably think about that. So McDaniel, I agree. I think McDaniel, brilliant offensive mind. Maybe one of the guys that would be best suited to be the best offensive coordinator in the league. And Vic Fangio coordinated for him in Miami.

1:33:28So maybe. I mean, I know that's obviously not Vic Fangio's the defensive coordinator, but still, there's a relationship there. He and Vic. That's a good connection. There you go. I got that connection for you right there. Brian Dable also potentially, he was Jalen Hurts' coordinator at Alabama. When they kicked him out of school, when they said, hey, we're going to go Tua? Maybe, but that's okay. That doesn't. We're not looking at that. We're digging a little bit too deep right now. Why are you doing so many details, PFT? I don't know. That was crazy. I actually don't know the answer to that question.

1:33:59Alabama claims Jalen Hurts. Yeah. I mean, listen, for all the shit that we give him, we do it because we know he's a really good quarterback, and he's just looked sad this year. It's looked bad. It's looked depressing. We need a new coordinator. We need a new coordinator. And do you need a new receiver? A.J. Brown's probably gone. I'll say that. Didn't speak to the media. Hugged all his teammates. Yelled that. They had a little shouting match on the sideline during the game. AJ Brown and Nick Sirianni. What do we think about that? Feels like those guys probably. Great relationship. Great relationship.

1:34:37Great relationship. Nick Sirianni said afterward, after the game, I have a special relationship with him. We probably went through every emotion you can possibly have together that happens in this game, but I love them. Do you think they've come together? Yeah. They were talking every emotion. Yeah, I think you got to. I think you got to get the boys in a room and play Okie Cookie. At some point. Max? Maybe phone sex? I don't know. What would a return be for A.J. Brown? I don't know. Like a trade return? Yeah. I don't know because it feels like the relationship there is done. Like maybe. I don't know.

1:35:18Yeah, maybe. Yeah, it doesn't feel like you're negotiating. But it's Howie. Yeah. Howie's probably going to get two first. fucking howie you know he will how old is he now 29 28 28 he's still young yeah he is still young hank you want him yeah would you give me would you what would you give up yeah give it negotiate right now with max fifth rounder oh well then you're still not playing for you guys so what why not why not he's under contract and did you not see that the the nick seriani and a.j brown have a special relationship. They've been through every emotion you could possibly have together and maybe coming.

1:35:59I should trade him to the Bills. Oh, that's I'm sure. I don't know where aging Brown's going to go. Maybe he'll just be in Philadelphia. That's also a chance because of the dead. There's also the dead cap is going to be crazy. If who cares? You have Howie. You'll figure. I don't understand. I don't think they're going to. No one does. I really don't. I'd be very surprised if he was an Eagle next year. Yeah, I would probably lean that way. Because it's not just the attitude stuff that they don't seem to see eye to eye on. It's the fact that he'll have these moments where him and the coaching staff are at odds with each other.

1:36:37And then his game is just way off. Like, he was not good today. He was bad. He was bad today. He was bad. What are you going to do, though, if you get rid of A.J. Brown? You need another receiver, right? Howie. Okay. I mean, I did see a guy on the sidelines making some nice catches. Big Dom? Yeah. Yeah. Great catch. Yeah. If I got you a Big Dom Lububu, you wouldn't put it on your backpack? No. Why? Because I'm not 12. Okay. Why else? I would love a Big Dom Lububu. That thing was sick. It was sick. The Lububu was sick. It's a Lububu of Big Dom. It was a Lububu. Sounds like you don't respect little boo-boos.

1:37:21No, not really. You don't even know what they are. No, they're like... Action figures? Stuffed animals. I don't fucking know. Yeah. They're kids' toys. I've gotten in the little boo-boo game. Max, how do you feel about... Multiple little boo-boos in my house. Jake Smelliot. He's gone. It was windy. He sucks. Yeah, but it was windy. So I don't think that he sucks, because I looked it up, Max. Jake Smelliot is, I believe, a top five kicker for field goals in playoff history. What about extra points? Extra points, he is the worst of all time. And it's not really close. On extra points, he has attempted 43.

1:38:03He's made 31 out of 43. No. That's a 72 % extra point rate in the playoffs. It is true. That's insane. That's Jake Elliott. So 72 % on extra points. Second place, second worst, is 86%. And then 89%, 91%. He's 72 % on extra points, but he's a top five kicker in terms of accuracy on field goals. Kicks longer than that. There's something about an extra point that really fucks him up in the playoffs. What about total kicks? What do you mean total kicks? if you the percentage of every time he kicks the ball through an uprights every time he's kicked if you add in field goal percentage and extra point yes that's like i don't know if that exists it's way too much math for me i would i would have a feeling that he's if you include both of them he's still probably not very good well yeah because of all the extra points correct that's what we're saying yeah the extra are important yeah the extra point it it made a big difference with how the Eagles tried to come back in that game.

1:39:07Yeah, we were down four instead of three. Four points. And the Niners missed one too. Maybe he missed one so that he wouldn't have to take a game-tying field goal because he didn't want to miss that. Maybe. Kind of smart. But that's the thing is he would have made the game-tying field goal. Yeah, true. Because it wasn't an extra point. Yeah. I think he's just trying to tell Sirianni, hey, go for two every time. The Eagles should go for two every time in the playoffs. Is the touchwush broken? No, touchwush worked today. Okay, yeah, yeah. I thought it did, but I feel like... I mean, it's... Throughout the year, it's been significantly worse, but today was good.

1:39:46I thought you handled yourself well on the stream. I don't. Why? You were fine. You were locked in. You complained... There was a couple funny moments. You complained a lot about commercials. You also, when they showed the game, they zoomed in. They did the Sky Cam coming into the stadium, and it was just a bunch of fans, I think, holding a piece of paper that said, Go Birds. And Max got so mad that he did not. I was just confused. He didn't know there was going to be reading involved in this football game. He's like, What the fuck is this? What the fuck is this? It's like, Max, it just says birds.

1:40:22I just didn't know what it was. I was in one of those modes where everything I was saying was coming out angry, but that I actually was just curious, what is this? Your tone was locked in. My tone was angry, but my words were, what is this? Yeah. And I was just curious as to what it was. It felt vaguely soccer-ish. I just didn't know what it was. It was kind of cool, but I didn't know what it was. I wanted to know what it was. Does anybody get meatballs after this game? Quignon. He had a bad first drive, but he was so good the rest of the game. Yeah. He really tried to get us back in that game.

1:41:07Yeah, it was a – I mean, it's credit to the Niners. The Niners are just a never-die team. That team's just not that good. I know, but they – They did enough. They didn't have – I mean, no Ricky Pearsall, like George Kittle tears his Achilles. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, they just – Like the Eagles aren't – like that just – that team is just whatever. Whatever. Whatever, whatever, whatever. They have mental toughness. They do. The Niners. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Right. I'm just saying, like, the talent on that team, on that, there was more talent on the Eagles roster today by far. Right. But that's not how they play the Eagles.

1:41:44Kyle Shanahan is significantly better. A much better coach. Yeah. Christian McCaffrey looked great today. Also, so did Saquon. Saquon looked pretty good. Saquon was great. Saquon was great. Yeah, I'm just always impressed with the Niners. because, yeah, I mean, you've said it, PFT, you know, a ton. Like, this is Kyle Shanahan's best coaching job. I really think that especially when – There's a lot of teams that if they have a lot of these injuries, they just fold in and they're just like, well, we can't compete. We have these injuries. Can you imagine Kyle Shanahan if they took away that giant electromagnetic station next to their practice?

1:42:15Yeah, having the Achilles injury to Kittle right after that story went viral is not the best timing. Yeah. Niners fans just show up with a shitload of magnets. I think Kendrick Bourne brought it up. Oh, he did? Yeah. What'd he say? Get that thing out of there? Yeah. But then he was like, I'm just kidding. But he's not. Because we said it. They're going to make him get rid of that. I did hear Dr. David Chow talk about it. And he said that you actually use that same, like the electromagnetic frequency, use that to heal injuries. So if anything, he thinks it would make them healthier. Maybe they just get super healthy when they practice, like on their practice field.

1:42:53and then the second they're away from the giant power plant, then their bodies are like, what's going on? I need my electromagnetic therapy flowing through my body at all times. Yeah. Huh. We got to do something about the power plant. We got to fix the power plant. Just at least rename it. Let's say that it's like a flower nursery or something. But you can keep the power going. But now it's mental. Yes. Now it's in their heads. I'd agree. Last question for you, Max. What? Zach is saying that we have one next to our office. Don't we have one, right? Right across the street? We do. Straight ahead?

1:43:25We do. It's a power plant? Yeah, it's a power facility. Oh, fuck. I thought it was, yeah. Might be injury prone. Yeah. Kidney stones? You know what's a good way to counteract the power plant and becoming injury prone? Never doing anything. That's true. Sedentary. Yeah. Just don't move. If you don't move, you can't get injured. I don't hate that move. Right? No. It's not a move. I don't hate that don't move. Yeah. It's a lack of move. We should just be on motorized wheelchairs around this office all the time. Oh, that is a substation. Fuck. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Oh, no, that's not where we are.

1:44:01That's not where we are. I think we're fine. I think we're fine. We're fine. I think it's like a cell phone tower. It's 5G. We'll probably get cancer. I mean, look at all that. We're all super healthy. Yeah. I'll say that we have one thing that's coming up that I don't know if it's announced yet, but I'm worried about. What? Yeah. Oh. actually not even that oh football? yeah

1:44:29Super Bowl week I don't know if that's announced yet I think we should do I don't think it is announced yet but I think we're going to be playing some form of football we should just do it you know those videos of guys in the locker room where they do walking routes you know we should just do a walking football game I like that. No one can go faster than a walk. I like that. Also, when we're out there for the Super Bowl, we should check out this electric facility. Yes. We should do some boots on the ground. We should go touch it. Yeah. We should have Zach touch it. Oh, that's a great loser of this picks thing today.

1:45:06Go touch it. Yeah. Touch the substation. Yeah. Do burpees next to it until you tear everything in your body. Or get healed by the other side. That's true. Yep. That's true. Get superpowers. I have one last question, Max. Is there any chance Nick Sirianni gets fired? I think that there is one scenario that Pug brought it up to me. And? Kevin Petulo and Nick Sirianni are very good friends. Yes. If Jeffrey Lurie is like, we need to get rid of Kevin Petulo, and Nick Sirianni says, no, if he goes, I go. There's no way he would do that. I don't think he would either. but you asked is there any scenario that's the only scenario and if he does say that then he deserves to be fine yeah like then he doesn't have the best interest in the team yeah that judgment is so off because you there's just a zero percent chance you can run you can run that back are you worried about Nick Cerrone for the future is he on the hot seat going into next year no that's that's a lie I'm just gonna I'm gonna say Max that's a lie you're being nice right now you know that's a lie you're saying that you don't want him fired right now which i agree with he just won super bowl he's proven that he can he can bring guys together lead you to a championship yeah he shouldn't be fired should not be fired right now absolutely not but you know for a fact and you're a liar if you say otherwise that we could get to like week four of next year we have and you guys have a bad loss and your office looks broken and he's not on the hot seat he's on the hot seat and that's by the way that's a philly hot seat that's not a anywhere else, you wouldn't be on the hot seat two years removed from a Super Bowl.

1:46:46He's on the Philly hot seat right now. When it comes to people of Philadelphia, he is on the hot seat. I am just telling you what I think. So he's on the hot seat next year. He's on the hot seat now. Is he coaching for his job? Always. Yeah, it is his job to coach. Always. It's his job. It is his job. I don't think that he should be on the hot seat, but there's a lot of talk right now that he is there now.

1:47:22Other nice one is, Max, you don't have to stay in San Francisco for the whole weekend and try to find a way. That's not nice at all. Okay, I was trying to be nice. I don't know. That would be great. I would love to stay in San Francisco for the whole weekend. Yeah, no, I agree. I was just trying to find. I don't know. You were pretty hungover when you got back. You're not going to be this hungover. I would love to be. I would love to be that homeowner. Another nice thing, you don't have to go to the game next week. I would have loved to go. The AWL is not on content. We lost because now the Bears are just in an NFC West tournament, and it would have been awesome to have us go to the Eagles-Bears game.

1:47:59Yeah. It would have been fun. A lot of fun. Would you have rather played the Packers? No. Why? Packers lost. Eagles lost. Yeah, yeah That Niners team, everyone got hurt on that team There was no excuse They were just not going to go on a run So it doesn't matter who they played Let's say you beat the Pack Did you not hear the stat though? They haven't lost in a divisional or wildcard round in forever That's not true At home? At home? No, the Niners You screwed that up You should have taken the Packers You should have won week 18

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1:50:25Okay, Sunday night football. The Patriots beat the Chargers 16-3. We should actually get Shane in the booth, right? He's got to be in here because he's got to talk. We'll start with you, Hank. He's got an answer for his team. That was a beatdown. I mean, it was a close game until the fourth quarter, but you guys might go to jail for what you did to Justin Herbert. That was a dominant defensive performance. I think the Chargers should go to jail for what they've done to Justin Herbert. But you guys dominate. It was basically Drake May in the first half, he wasn't lighting the world on fire passing it, but his legs, that play at the end of the first half was electric.

1:51:10And then because the Patriots defense was so suffocating, it allowed him to get his feet wet in the playoffs. And in the second half, he was awesome. Yeah, game started off as badly as it could have. interception gave the chargers the ball in like the 10 yard line they didn't score a point and it was just the the it was funny when they they showed the shane is here by the way the chargers offensive lineman when they were doing players introductions and and their pff rankings were like dead last dead last second to dead last third to dead one of them just didn't have a ranking yeah yeah they just skipped that guy this guy's new yeah we don't know but yeah not good they were they were they were they were just not a ball they were not a ball ball club today we're not a ball i will admit that uh the the charges offense seemed to be like watch out justin there's a guy there like and then him running away from that guy but also they were like running their receivers deep they were doing deep routes it's like you know he's gonna have no time they should just be trying to dink and dunk and they just weren't the game felt like it was over when the chargers couldn't that the the tip ball interception that drake may had at the beginning of the game and the charges got zero points like okay that's it like you you're not gonna win this game you You can't move the ball two yards when you need to.

1:52:22Once we got it outside of a one-score game, that's when I felt like the game was over. Yeah, it was over. It was over. So you feel good? Yeah. It's fun to play meaningful football. I didn't think it was a pretty game by any means. The defense played well. It was the ugliest game of all the games this weekend. It was like the fastest game of all time. It was waiting all day for Sunday night, and then we blinked, and it was the fourth quarter. Yeah, you guys ran the ball well. I mean, like I said, Drake May felt like the second half, He kind of woke up. And it was good, yeah. It's like obviously it was his first playoff game at home.

1:52:53They're going to get another chance next week. He got his feet wet. He had a big throw. The throw to Hunter Henry for a touchdown was a great pass. Dot. Great pass. Moving in the pocket. So, yeah, it was a great win. Exciting. Ready for whoever we play. I think you're underselling a little bit, Hank, because I don't know if you connected the dots like I connected when I watched. But this is my biggest bet of the year so far, calendar year. Congrats. On the Patriots. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, it was a no-doubter, the way that the defense played especially. Eerily similar to Tom Brady's first playoff game.

1:53:26One interception, your field goal kicker makes three field goals, defense just owns the other team, and you score 16 points and win. Same thing happened to Tom Brady's first game. That's good. That was a historically good defense. I don't know that these Patriots are that good. No, I mean, they carried Drake Bay to this win. It was awesome. How many times? Oh. No, I'm saying this Pats team is primed to be a dynasty. Right, right. Because Drake May, yeah, he can manage it and then let the defense carry him, and then he'll evolve into being a great quarterback. I was wondering where you were going, and I got it.

1:54:01No, no one's going to argue with the success of Patriots had, right? With Tom Brady. Best quarterback to ever play football. For sure. And this is the exact blueprint that they've got with Drake May. I love it. I'm down. I'm buying what you're selling. I'm in. They sacked Justin Herbert six times. It felt like more than that because he just was getting demolished. And, I mean, the Patriots defense played well. They dominated him. Absolutely dominated him. Is Christian Gonzalez concussed? Yeah, he wasn't allowed to speak with reporters after the game because that's just how it goes if you go out with a concussion.

1:54:32But a reporter said he saw him in the locker room and said he's fine. Okay. But is he concussed? He told him he was fine. Okay. Well, the fact that he got taken out of the game and then wasn't allowed to talk to the media tells me he's probably... Well, no, anyone that gets taken out of the game for head injury is not allowed to talk to the media. God, you've learned that rule today. Yeah. And now you're stunting it on us. Yeah, now you're hand waving. You learned... No, no, no. The only reason you're able to talk down to us right now is that you learned that rule 20 minutes before we did. Yeah.

1:55:05Now you can do it to other people. But wait, but why didn't he... No, no, no, no, no. Why didn't he go back in the game? Because the game was over. Safety. I don't think the game was over. Patriots care about player safety. He got seen by the spotter. Yeah. And then he got taken to the locker room. So he is most likely concussed. If he wasn't concussed, he would have been back in the game. I can only go off what Christian Gonzalez said and that he's fine. Well, no, he hasn't said anything. That's what he said to this reporter. That's illegal. You're not supposed to talk to reporters if you've been concussed.

1:55:36No, you're not supposed to do media. Well, then what is talking to a reporter? You can see reporters. This is all legal. It's like when you talk to someone in the office. I can see PFT in the kitchen and be like, you're a bitch. That's different than if I said that on the podcast. Then it would be official. How is it different? It's on the record versus off the record. But he talked to the reporter. Well, no, Hank, that's not off the record because then the reporter said it. I'll find it. Find it for us. So it seems to me, Hank might be right. They might have given him the concussion test, and he passed it so well that they're like, well, this is crazy.

1:56:15We better get you to the locker room and get you on a plane so you can start solving scientific. It was in the locker room. This is Zach Cox, a great Patriots follow. Christian Gonzalez is in the locker room after the game, said he couldn't talk to the media. Typical for players who leave with a head injury, but that he feels fine. Okay, so he left with a head injury. So you actually might be able to speak to the media after a head injury. Oh, so you were wrong. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. overall what would you give the grade of the game I would give it it was very boring I'll give it a 7.5 playoff wins a playoff win it's tough to come by you gotta dig deep gotta grind especially going up against a ball club it was good I mean kind of what I was expecting all week Shane they did nothing they didn't put up really any fight did nothing yeah so Shane how are you feeling I don't know if I could feel worse that was just like a pathetic pathetic like this is just like the third game in the third playoff game in a row it just felt like the chargers lost the game as opposed to like the other team beating them you know you blew the blew the jaguars then herbert throws four interceptions and then now just the offense did nothing absolutely nothing can i read a stat for you guys yeah please in the jim harbaugh greg roman justin herbert era they have had 22 offensive possessions how many of those possessions have resulted in a touchdown two playoff games 22 offensive possessions didn't score one tonight two one one one touchdown in 22 possessions so you got to get rid of greg groman that if if there's a silver lining to come out of this game it has to be harbaugh needs to like clear house offensively and like the defense was good tonight the defense actually hung in there yeah our defense that's what i'm kind of like i'm really upset about is because jesse mentor is like elite defensive play caller like he is but he is for sure 100 % getting a head coach job this year and who knows where that's going to leave us Harbaugh really needs to do some thinking about where this coaching staff is going to be next year because it is it's looking grim right now it does feel like you're wasting Justin Herbert for sure does and what year is this for him six this is yeah he was drafted in 2020 you're six yeah I mean it's not like he's old no but I mean And he's got six years under his belt, and it doesn't look any better than it did his rookie year.

1:58:36It looks worse. Yeah. Like, to put him behind that offensive line is just a travesty. Well, to argue in favor of the Chargers just a little bit, they did try to build up the offensive line. Like, you can't plan for Joe Alt to go down. You can't plan for Slater to go down at the start of the season. Like, that is some bad luck. It's almost like the Chargers, oh, shit. everything in the Chargers facility has the lightning bolt on it. They might be dealing with the electric pulses too. That's true. I do understand that point, but also in that Houston Texans game last year, that playoff game, Herbert was pressured like 70 % all from the interior.

1:59:14And it was kind of like a famous quote in the Chargers sphere, but there's a reporter. The Chargers sphere? Yeah, I like that. There's a reporter, Daniel Popper, and it was after they signed Mekhi Becton, and they asked our GM, Greg Roman, or Joe Hortiz, they asked him, like, do you think you did enough to, like, sure up this offensive line? And he said, 11 wins is pretty good. I don't know about you. Oh, no. That's what he said. So here we are again, 11 wins. I mean, in a weird way, like, the more Justin Herbert looks bad in playoffs for games like this, the better he looks as a quarterback. The fact that he was able to get them there.

1:59:53Yeah, for sure. And then you watch it tonight and you're like, this guy is special and I feel bad for him. Yeah, I mean, I thought he got knocked out that one hit. That one hit was so brutal. But he talked to the media after, so he couldn't have gotten knocked out. No. Did you see Robert Splane's comment? What did he say? He said a Chargers player came up to him after the game and said the Chargers offense had no idea what the Patriots were doing on defense. Because half of them never played football before. that's a tough that's a tough admission to a your opponent right after the game Hank do you think Justin Herbert played poorly or he has a bad offensive line

2:00:34Oh boy I mean it's impossible Yeah. Justin Herbert's bad. Okay. All right. That's exactly what I was looking for. Drake May's a Herbert clone. What? Drake May's a Herbert clone. He's got more wins in the playoffs. Oh, for sure. Yeah. But he also has a competent offensive line where he actually had some time in the pocket and an offensive corner that can scheme receivers open. And he ran better. Yeah. Well, he didn't have five people in his face in.5 seconds. Yeah. Hank, do you have any worries about having a run-first quarterback that takes a lot of damage? No. Do you have any worries about having a Justin Herbert clone in the playoffs?

2:01:13Knowing that Justin Herbert hasn't won a playoff game? That's a good point. Well, we have, so I don't really. Yeah, but now that you've been, you did that. This is before. This is like, this is like. But he just tagged you. We're next gen. But he told you, he tagged you with the clone comment after you already won. So that game, forget that game. Going forward, you're the clone. We're the next model up. Okay. Justin Herbert plus. Yeah. All right. It sucked, Shane. That was a brutal game to watch for you. This is why I try to temper my expectations going into this week. You called it. Patriots got this shit.

2:01:47I said they owned this shit in terms of the playoffs, and, yeah, I mean, they're proving me right, I guess. Are you – last question, Shane. Are you a little nervous that – is there a chance Justin Herbert's like, I don't want to do this shit anymore? I mean, I wouldn't blame him, but I don't think there's a chance, no. He's in – he's played six seasons in the NFL. Yeah. Andrew Luck played six seasons in the NFL I don't know what Luck's contract was looking like but I don't think it was like $55 million a year,$60 million It was a lot of money Not that much but Madison wants to have a kid He wants to be healthy for the kids I don't think that's a real thing I'm just saying it's a shame that these things are being said because Justin Herbert is getting done dirty Yeah for sure Yeah, the only sad part about it is I wouldn't blame him if he wanted to do that.

2:02:38I hear you, though, Hank. It's like he goes to Cancun with Madison for, like, two weeks. He's like, do I really want to go back to my job where I just get hit in the ribs with sledgehammers ten times a game? I could just chill. We could chill together. Hank. All right, Shane. Thank you. Sorry. Thank you. Thanks, guys. Sorry, Shane. Sorry. Hey, bolt up. Bolt up. That was a sad bull talk. Hank, who do you want? Let's talk about Monday Night Football. This is the deciding game for Super Wild Card Weekend. We already have it set. Saturday is going to be Broncos-Bills, Seahawks-Niners. They haven't given us time.

2:03:18The Bears-Rams are going to play Sunday. The Patriots are going to play against the Texans or the Steelers. Bad. All right, so my rollback question. RHOBACK.com, promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase, Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com, promo code TAKE. Why do you want them bad? This team barely made the playoffs. They snuck into the playoffs. Team had destiny to just make it into the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers is old. Mike Tomlin has not had a good year coaching. The Texans' defense is better, I think, than the Steelers' defense. so I want the Steelers so you're scared of the Texans I'm not scared of the Texans but I want you asked the question it's one or the other I asked the question but then you went on to say bad bad Jersey Jerry good friend co-worker but it'd be fun to just smoke him in the playoffs he's scared he doesn't have a choice well no this was during the game before the game started No, no, no, before the game.

2:04:28No, he was saying it all. He said, I want the Patriots. I want the Patriots. Good. Bring it. It's fun. Which made no sense because I was like, but Jerry, you would get a home playoff game. It was also partially because he's scared of the Bills. Because I was like, Jerry, if the Chargers win, you get a home playoff game. He's like, I want the Patriots bad. Well, yeah. If the choice is the Patriots or the Bills, I can see why he would say the Patriots. But one's home and one's away. Yeah, but it's, I mean, this is Josh Allen's playoffs to lose. Okay. Is it not? I do feel like we're on collision course, Patriots, Bills, AFC Championship game.

2:05:02Yeah. That's what it sounds like to me. Getting excited about that? Actually, Hank, I got a question for you about that stupid fucking lighthouse that you pretend to have. Why don't they light the light up in the lighthouse at night during games? Because the focus should be on the field. No, it's a lighthouse. It has one purpose. At night - We're not doing this again. The light turns on. I just saw it tonight. I got pissed off. New for the Netflix viewers. I got pissed off all over. It's not PFT. So it's actually not a real lighthouse. It's not a functional lighthouse. Okay, thank you. Thank you for admitting that.

2:05:30That's big of you to admit that. That should answer your question. That's huge. Not a real lighthouse. Hank Lockwood. I've confirmed that. It's still my Twitter bio. Okay, good. It just pissed me off. If you have a lighthouse, the light should be on at night. It's not a real lighthouse. It's the only time the light should be on. You made a full-court press to make people admit that. I just think it still should be on. It's stupid. Your bio does not. What do you mean? What? the Cape Hatteras Lighthouse is the largest That has nothing to do with you saying that it's not a real lighthouse. That was the whole Do you listen to this show, Max?

2:06:05That was the entire argument. I'm going to wave you off. That was the entire argument. Max, I don't know if you can wave you off. Hank is right about that. We're going to treat you like you just got concussed. We're not allowed to talk to you right now. You didn't know that fact either. The Cape Hatteras Lighthouse is shorter than the Gillette Lighthouse but the Gillette Lighthouse is not a real lighthouse. Got it. Ipso facto, the Cape Hatteras Lighthouse is the tallest lighthouse in the country. I thought Cape Hatteras was the name of the Patriots Lighthouse. Oh my God. Hand up. Yeah. The Hatteras Kazanus.

2:06:38Mm-hmm. Hank, I would agree with you. I think that you should want the Steelers because the Texan defense is scary. But I do think that the Texans are capable of playing Steeler football and Steeler football can beat the Texans with experience. It's also funny. You don't understand that? Hold on. The Texans are better, for sure, than the Steelers. I think anybody that's watched the NFL this season would agree that their defense is elite. Their offense has a tendency to be inconsistent, but they can't be very good. But I can see them getting into a game with Pittsburgh Steelers where they play the ugly, slow, gross Pittsburgh Steeler football way, and then the Steelers play every game like that and they know how to win those games.

2:07:25I follow. That makes sense. So while the Texas might not be the better team, I could very easily see this being a good matchup for the Steelers. Also, it's not even just about me. I care about you guys a lot. I care about this podcast. PFT has said all season this is the year that Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers get a playoff win, and it solves the pinky bet. It's an unselfish decision. I will be rooting for the Steelers on Monday night. The funny thing is, though, we're sitting and talking about this game and everyone's assuming the texans are gonna well the texas are favorite and everyone's assuming they're gonna win because the steelers snuck in but if the steelers then beat the texans we'll be like holy shit the texas or the steelers look good yeah we will stills are gonna be a tough tough tough team to play we will we're gonna get that stat about the 23 straight home monday night football wins that the steelers have because this is a monday night football production so it's official yep this counts on the record one of their harder games that they've had on Monday Night Football, although they did lose Monday evening football to the Commanders back in 2020.

2:08:23But, yeah, they're putting that streak on the line. You want them bad. Bad. Bad. Bad. So you are scared of the Texans. You wouldn't say bad like that. I mean, the Texans defense, the Chargers defense, like you said, they played well. They hung in this game. I think the Texans defense is way better than the Chargers defense. So, yeah. Texas offensive line is pretty bad, too. Yeah. Bad. Bad. The Dodgers is a million years old. And the Texans have those games where the offense looks broken. I mean, historically, we own both of these teams in the playoffs, so I bring either one on. There's no problem.

2:09:00You can say that about just about any team. Not the Broncos. Broncos in Denver. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Great wildcard weekend. Super wildcard weekend. The other game that happened, and then we'll do who's back of the week. Indiana is just the best team in college football and it's insane to watch what they did to Oregon on Friday night. They're just a – they're so much better than everyone right now. The conversation has to go to like are they the best college football team ever. And here's how you know that Indiana is so dominant. We have now started down the path of people complaining that they're too old and that they're cheating somehow.

2:09:44Yeah, the cheating ones. It's the saddest thing ever. Well, it started because the first play from scrimmage of the night, Moore threw an out, and D 'Angelo Pons saw the play coming, read the quarterback's eyes, stepped in front of it for Indiana, picked it off, picked six, returned to the house. And then everybody was like, it's like he knew that pass was coming. Right. Which could mean, one, they study harder than everybody or study smarter than everyone, and then combine that with getting good players through the transfer portal and they have experienced players. Or it could mean that Mark Cuban has hacked his way into a company that every college football team uses to upload their plays and their playbook to and then distributes it directly to the desk of Kurt Signetti, who then studies these plays, tells his team what plays are coming first, and then they use that information to win football games.

2:10:35I tend to think that Signetti is an awesome coach and that Indiana has great players. but the more dominant they get, and when you look at the stats behind how they're graded out with five-star recruits, how they're graded out via the portal, the kind of players they get in the portal, the way that Indiana is overperforming both those metrics in terms of on-the-field production is staggering. How much better that team is than any other team that's ever existed with, I don't even want to say similar ratings, because I think the worst national championship, when you take into account the portal ratings and also the recruiting ratings was University of Michigan from a couple years ago.

2:11:18Yeah. And Indiana is like five times worse than that team. Yep. And so I see why people look at the stats and they're like, this is an outlier. I think he's an outlier, but I think that Kurt Cignetti is an outlier. Yeah. He's an incredible coach, and they're on an insane run. Fernando Mendoza has, I think it's his, he touched, how many touchdowns he threw against Alabama? Number three, I think he has now eight touchdowns in the two playoff games and five incompletions. Yeah. Something ridiculous. They're just – yeah, Kurt Cignetti is an insane coach. He's so good. They were not going to stop until they got 50 points.

2:11:55Yeah. Mendoza played well into the fourth quarter. I don't know if that was to scare Miami, if that was to make some sort of statement. I don't know, but they clearly had like, we want to score 50 and then we'll call the dogs off. Also, we might have been right. We might have been wrong about being – we were wrong about saying that we were wrong. Ohio State this year might have been better than Ohio State last year. It could have been. Indiana's just that good. They lost by three to – if Indiana's going to be one of the best national champions we ever crown, and Ohio State only lost by three to them because their kicker stinks, maybe Ohio State was that good.

2:12:33I think this Indiana team's better than last year's Indiana team. How about that? I would agree. I'll go out on that limb. I would agree. They're an absolute wagon, and they're fun to watch. And that stadium was just all Indiana. It will be interesting. I think it will be all Indiana in Miami. Which is crazy because it's in Miami. Right. And, well, Indiana also has, I didn't know this, they've got the largest living alumni group in the United States. Yeah. I think there's like, what, 800 ,000 Indiana University fans, alumni that are walking around out there, and they've never had to travel for meaningful football games before.

2:13:07They've been saving their money. So they're good to go. Miami will obviously have some people, hometown. I see that part of it. But I would expect that it's going to be heavily Indiana. Yeah. Big time. Big time. Great weekend for football. Also, for the cheating people out there that are claiming Indiana is cheating. It's so lame. Is Elijah Surratt, is he just cheating too when we see him jump up in the air over three guys and make a catch? Is that cheating? This is how good. Well, you know you've gotten to this point when it's just like, hey, you're cheating and you're too old. It should be a badge of honor for every Hoosier fan to see the allegations that your football team is cheating.

2:13:43Yeah, I agree. You're that dominant. I agree. Okay, let's finish off with who's back of the week. Twisted Tea is a refreshing hard iced tea made with real brewed tea and 5 % alcohol. It's the perfect drink to keep the good times going all day and all season long, whether you're hanging out at a friend's house, catching a game at the stadium or at the bar, or day drinking with friends. Twisted Tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time a great time. Grab a refreshing Twisted Tea today. Twisted Tea. We love Twisted Tea. The original, the half and half, the peach. Go get a Twisted Tea today.

2:14:15Hank, who's back of the week? Who's back of the week is the Golden Globes. Yes. Golden Board Material. We got snubbed. Yeah. Bad. Bad. Who won? Amy? Amy Schumer. Amy Poehler. Amy Poehler. Amy Poehler. We also didn't submit any of the paperwork that we needed to submit. Yeah, it's pay to play. It is pay to play. So we got nominated for a Golden Globe, and then they were like, hey, if you want to potentially win a Golden Globe, you got to do all these things. We got nominated for finalist. Yeah. And then you had to pay and submit. The paperwork was the part. To be made the final finalist. Like, we might not have even made it onto the award show part.

2:14:58They could tell us that we're up for a Nobel Peace Prize. and if we have to like fill out one piece of paper we're out listen we're not doing it i don't know if you guys know this about the podcast but picks punishment coming soon yeah we we tend to push things off yeah and if we're gonna have to submit any sort of uh like formal if we have to send an email i think you know what if we have to send one email i think we could do that if it's just like we accept right the nomination i don't even know if we do that maybe we don't reply to emails all the time give us ownership to a team and we wouldn't even take it if we had to do we lost the rings that's true our championship ring we they did also invite us out there for the awards and we're like no no that's okay did this is this is i think the positive for us in terms of who we are as podcasters and what this show is built on because podcasts have become a little bit mainstream i was gonna say not to diminish the golden glory yeah it's crazy our profession but it's a joke No, it's a joke.

2:15:59It's a joke. Listen, we're fucking, we're jokes. This is a joke. This whole thing is a joke. What we're doing right now is a fucking joke. We have paid to talk shit onto a mic and we have no, like, formal training or anything. We're just, we're idiots in front of mics and hopefully we're a little entertaining. The fact they're giving Golden Globes for this is a joke. It's basically all the people in Hollywood who got into podcasting that just want to suck each other off and be like, oh, podcasting is a real thing now. Look, it's got the Golden Globes. We're out The fact that they They would have wanted us To like buy a tuxedo Oh And wear it to a theater So that Snoop Dogg Could hand us a golden trophy For That would have been sick For podcasting Is ridiculous We wouldn't have won We're losing I know that The whole point of podcasting is But let's not say That that wouldn't be sick No It would not be sick It's like how you can pay For a sports Emmy Yeah Like we could have 17 Emmys in the studio Well we did But we don't It would mean nothing We got nothing But that's good No, we had to fill out the paperwork and the tank's full.

2:17:00No, Matt, it's memes. Okay. Do you understand that the fact that podcasting is becoming this mainstream? Podcasting should be a joke. It should be dudes, girls, whatever, hanging out and bullshitting. The minute you just make it all formal in this, it's a joke. It's stupid. It's literally the least glamorous profession you can have. And the smallest barrier of entry. and now all the Amy Poehlers of the world are taking it over. There's way too many people at this awards ceremony that have way too much sex for it to be actually a podcast or event. That's not what podcasting is supposed to be. Podcasting is supposed to be dudes that don't fuck, but they like to talk about football.

2:17:44Yeah. What were you going to say, Zach? Outside of the establishment aspect, suits and Snoop Dogg kind of sick. Dude, you got to stand next to Freddie Gibbs the other day. Yeah, he was on the other side of the rope, and we couldn't talk to him, but you got to see him. Zach, you know what that room's full of? What's up, P.T.? Big intercourse guys. Yeah. That's too much intercourse. Like the biggest intercourse guys in the world. Those guys are fucking? Oh, yeah. Yeah, sometimes not even the right things.

2:18:12We're out. Don't even nominate us. Unless you want to nominate us and give us the award without us having to do any paperwork, then we will send Zach in a tuxedo and he'll have intercourse. He will fuck your hottest models We will offer you that We're giving you 24 hours to respond Golden Globes You want us to be there We'll send Zach He fucks the models He gets the Golden Globe We handshake right now We call it a deal We could have been boys with Chalamet Oh, was he there? Yeah, he was there I like Chalamet Chalamet's cool as fuck But he shouldn't have a podcast Chalamet shouldn't be in a room Where they're giving awards for podcasts Chalamet, we should not He's too cool for that.

2:18:53He should not want us in his room. Like, Chalamet's sitting there being like, hey, guys, here's the number one podcast of the year. And also, how do they decide this? Because they fill out the fucking paperwork? This is stupid. You agree, right, Hank? Yeah. Chalamet should have walked out. He's like, I'm Timothy Chalamet. Do you think that Jack Nicholson would have sat in a room where they give off a podcast award? Fuck no. Wait for the tennis podcast. Fuck no. Tennis podcast was not nominated. See, that's bullshit. That's how we know. We go where the tennis podcast goes. If they were nominated, yeah, we'd show up.

2:19:34That's another point in our crown. You know what's my Golden Globe? Danny Boy Kane saying that we're a top-notch organization. That's my Golden Globe. That's all I need. But we will do the Zach's sex thing if they want us to get into the Hollywood thing. Yeah, you just point and Zach will bone that person. Mm-hmm. Dude, what if we make Zach a Hollywood plant? That'd be sick. Industry sex plant? Yeah, industry sex plant. Yep. That'd be so sick. Okay. Good Who's Back. Good Who's Back. Sorry for the ranting. My Who's Back of the Week is The Laundry Thief. Oh, yeah. I saw this. So on Thursday night, we wrap up the show.

2:20:15We go home. I got home at probably 1130 at night. you may remember about this time last year maybe this exact time last year I'll have to look it up all my laundry got stolen off my front step and it's not that I don't do laundry I do laundry but during playoff season at the end of NFL season we're at the office a lot so when I get home just pretty much go to bed wake up come back to the office so that time of year I send some laundry away last year I had two duffel bags my laundry stolen off my front porch you make what you make It sounds like they're going upstate for 20 years for B &E. No, I'm just saying.

2:20:51Send my laundry away. Well, I send it out for somebody else to do. Yeah. Summer, the kids aren't in school. Send my laundry out. So I got back home on Thursday night at about 1130. I had a notification on my phone. The laundry was dropped off at about 930, 945. I go to my front door. I open it up. There's no duffel bags there. There's no laundry outside. I pull up the security app. I look at the surveillance footage. It has a screenshot of a guy that appears to have two bags of laundry scurrying away from my front porch. So I'm like, okay, I'm fucked. I step back outside onto the porch. I look down the street.

2:21:33I don't know why I'm looking down the street. Like maybe the guy's there. Maybe he just stole it. I don't know. But about halfway down the block, I see these two bags in one of my neighbor's front yard. I go up to the bags. sure enough it's my laundry they've been opened somebody stole my laundry ran down the street looked inside saw my clothes and was like fuck this and threw the bags to the side uh which hey i'm happy i got my my clothes back but it was a real gut check moment for me real look in the mirror yeah to be like my clothes are so hideous that not even a thief wants to steal them yeah which maybe i've hacked you know safety maybe yeah maybe i've hacked like taking care of my valuable things there were a lot of jumpsuits in it too there were a lot of weird jumpsuits my laundry's not everybody's laundry i'm glad i got it back but it was still it was a humbling moment to walk back into my house with my unstealable bags of laundry that was nice of them you know what maybe they were just like hey this guy's got so much swag i can't pull it off yeah maybe he was intimidated maybe it was like yeah yeah i can't i can't wear this shirt with all of the NFL team's logos stitched onto it.

2:22:42I can't wear this track suit that has F-16s all over. I can't do this to the kids. Hank, you made the same joke last year. Yeah, well, it still plays. Come on, buddy. That's why we're not getting Golden Globes. We're rehashing material, Hank. Bitch. You literally did the same thing with the Lighthouse like 20 minutes ago. Well, I got re-pissed off about the Lighthouse. Play the hits. I got re-pissed off. Play the hits. okay by who's back of the week is this is going to be niche college basketball because Wisconsin beat Michigan on Saturday and Michigan was undefeated number two in the country and seemingly the best team by far and it was awesome so I mean I always watch college basketball I love watching college basketball but it was a very very fun win and also Alex Bregman because he's a cub for five years which is sick I did like how Wisconsin told Bill Raftery onions after the game That was pretty cool.

2:23:38It was a great inning to the game. It was like edge of your seat stuff. It was a good college basketball game. I typically don't pay much attention at all to college basketball until the NFL season's over. Then I do a crash course on it. But on the weekends, I watch a few games, and that was a good win for the Badgers. It was crazy. I don't know. You think it's going to be enough if they end up with a decent record? That's a crown jewel win. If they had not won this game, I would have said that it was going to be very hard for them to make the tournament because they did not have – they've struggled early in the season.

2:24:10Lost to Villanova. Didn't do great. Like, got killed by BYU. But this is a big one. So, if they can win the games they're supposed to win and maybe pick up one or two more of these, you know, hey, we were underdogs and it's a ranked team. I just want to be in the tournament. Just not being in the tournament is the worst. Let's get to the dance. And Bregman to the Cubs. Awesome. I wanted Ricketts to make a move like this for a long time, and he finally did. And now I feel very confident. Like they added Cabrera. They added Bregman. They're there. Maybe basically where I'm at with the Cubs is I think that they're getting good enough to potentially win two games against the Dodgers in the NLCS.

2:24:50Okay. And that would be awesome. That'd be massive. Right. Yeah. If you can win two games against the Dodgers, the NLCS, then you're playing October baseball. That's deep. October. Probably get it like a Thursday night. That'd be sick. That so sick. Yeah. So, yeah, two wins against the Dodgers. I mean, the Dodgers are so good. But I'm happy they're trying. Yeah. It's fun, and Bregman's the man. What do you think about that, Hank? I mean, the Red Sox ownership's a joke. Yeah, we said this, yeah, but yeah. Yeah, they just don't care, right? They don't care. Yeah. They're not trying to win. They're just trying to maximize profits.

2:25:22Yeah. That's sad. They thought they were going to get him. I saw a report. I think it was a buster only. It said they're very disappointed. They thought that they had a shot. Yeah, they're offering him like$3 million less a year or something. but they can afford him. They just chose not to get him. Bregman will come hang out at the office. Yeah. He's the man. I'm in a fantasy league with him. Recurring guest. Recurring guest. Yeah, he'll come hang. I shouldn't have grabbed Pete Crow Armstrong that hard. Also, RIP Bob Weir. Love Bob Weir. Passed away on Saturday. It was crazy. It was like three minutes before we went to our seats.

2:25:59Yeah, I have very... Grateful Dead is my favorite band. He's given me a lifetime of great moments. Seeing him live countless times, whether it be Dead & Company or Rat Dog. I'm sad about it. So, shout out Bob Weir. Thank you for everything. Music never stops. Zach, finish us off. My who's back of the week. Maybe a little specific. It's going to be Good Omens, boys. Oh. Specifically, NBA-centric Good Omens. New York Knicks, before yesterday, one in five. Last five games, the omen pops up in the flesh. Wait, is anyone listening to Zach except me? I'm hearing. One in five in the last five games? Yeah.

2:26:44One win out of the last five games. Okay, got it. I mean, I said that incorrectly. One in five, I was like, that's six games. I was letting you cook. Yeah. Sorry, my bad. No, all good. I should have said it the right way. I said the complete wrong way. I didn't mean to step on you. I just was confused. One in five in the last five games is like, that's six games. No, that's super valid. I shouldn't have spun you for a confusion. All right, let's start again. But once the omen showed up in the flesh, there was a double Knick fan Spike Lee sighting yesterday. Knicks are now undefeated. Yeah. So post-omen, Knicks don't lose.

2:27:13You saw Spike Lee. In the flesh, yeah. Confirmed he's real. That's good for the team. We're going to just path to victory. Were you nervous that he was not real? You don't know if it's true until you see it sometimes. Oh, so you're one of those dinosaurs aren't real because we never saw him? Who was that? the way dinosaurs are... Was it Milton Bradley or Carl Everett? Yeah. Carl Everett. I think with the dinosaur bones, we assume their alignment. So I think the dinosaurs, how we know them are not real. Got it. They're a different variant. Are they like feathers? I'm pretty sure we decide where all the bones went, so we made up what they look like.

2:27:51That's true. No, that's actually 100 % true. Oh, you mean like when you find the bones, you decide how to put them together. We just assumed how the skeletons go together once the architect, not architect, archaeologist dug them out the ground, so they might not look anything like what we think they look like. Right. Don't you think they, I guess, I guess? I think I saw that on like a pretty decent, I was thinking History Channel. Oh, History Channel. Okay. But wouldn't that, don't the bones like make, we know how bones work. We know how our bones work. If you see a bunch of dinosaur bones, wouldn't they be able to somewhat figure out?

2:28:30That's what I'm saying. I think we have bits and pieces. I think we're guessing a lot on where things, and maybe also making up some bones or joints to complete a picture we don't actually know what it may look like. Yeah, and have you ever thought about how we'd have all the bones, but when you see pictures of dinosaurs, nobody knows what the outside of their skin looked like. Definitely. What if they were all furry? What color were they? Yeah, what if they had hair? What if they all rug? Oh, you think T-Rex's arms? They're that big and the arms are really this tiny. What if there are what if their bodies were made out of pillows?

2:29:02Or super amount of feathers. It could be the case. What if they're wearing guardian caps? That's smart brain management. Yeah, so the the Knicks are now want to know in their last two games after you met Spike Lee They're they're want to know through one post spike. Okay Spike Lee is the number one desired white whale guest A part of my take per Rico Bosco Yeah That's his top selection for us They're 2-5 in the last five?

2:29:322-5 in the last five No, they're not 2-5 in the last five That was where we got They're 2 out of 5? They're 2 out of the last 6 confirmed wins Got it Confirmed So they're 2-4 It would be Are they 2-4 in their last six, or are they 2-6 in their last eight? In the previous bad math, they were 2-6. They were 2-6 in their last eight? No, no. In the previous miscorrected way to say it, 2-6, but it's actually we've won two of the last six games. Got it. So you're 2-4. Post-Omen, we're up. There's too many numbers before numbers. You're 2-4 in your last five. We're up. Okay. Confirmed. Nice. There's a path to victory.

2:30:15It's very funny seeing Spike Lee rocking the Jordan brand. Yeah. Like memes. Can you imagine being like 60 years old, you're wearing like TB12 merch? No. Yeah. It's kind of crazy. Do people do that? No, I'm saying like Spike Lee wearing Jordan, like the Jordan logo. He's a Jordan athlete because he's got the Spizike, so he's got his own model. Yeah, which is crazy. Like how Jordan just stole all the hopes, dreams, and chance of being a champion from Spike Lee in the 90s. And I was like, yeah, I'll put you right over my heart, Jordan.

2:30:53Good show, boys. Good show. We got more playoff football. We're going to talk about it all week. Monday night football. Official prediction for tomorrow night? I think Steelers 17, Texans 13. I think it's going to be Texans 21, Steelers 17. Ooh. I think the Texans, unfortunately, are going to win. Texans 24-0. What? Steelers 3, Texans 0. Wow. Oh, memes. What's up? One more question. How do you feel about the Jets draft choice after Friday night's game? I think the media put a lot of pressure on that young man before the biggest game of his career. Who? Dante Moore. And pressure got to him. The guy didn't have to make a decision at any time.

2:31:46He didn't know what his decision was. But he's going to be good in the NFL. And if he goes back to college, that would make a lot of sense. Were you a little upset online because everyone was making the same joke, like Dante Morris is perfect for the Jets? No, I mean, that's just low-hanging fruit. Jets are the most popular team, and it's wild-card weekend. Right. Everyone's talking about the Jets. Rent-free. It's the 3-14 Jets, and they're just – And they're owning the media. Devontae Adams talking about them. Aaron Rodgers won't stop talking about them. Yep. I get it. They've been the top of my head.

2:32:15That was funny when Aaron Rodgers was like, yeah, there's no leaks, and there's no outside noise. When he went on McAfee every single week. Every week. And the one year he doesn't do it, it's when he's on the Steelers. Yeah. Well, that actually is. Procedy, fuck you. That is correct that that goes against the Jets. As an organization. Him not doing it on the Steelers shows the Steelers are like, yeah, we're not letting you do this. We're here to play football. whereas the Jets are like, oh, yeah, do whatever you want. Yeah, do you have a wish list of players that we can bring in for you? Sure, we'll do that.

2:32:58Steelers didn't do that. Wish list never happened. Oh, it didn't? I think the wish list happened, Mims. Are you sure? Didn't happen. That's what Rossini told us. Wrong. Wrong Sini. Okay, wrong Sini. Oh. What's the right Sini? I don't know. Wrong Sini. Oh, you're calling her Diana wrong Sini. Diana wrong Sini. Okay, that's good. You got to take your hat off. That's good. Thank you. Okay. Good show, boys. Numbers. Three. 100. Two.

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