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34:07I think it's going to be cold. It might be a little windy. It might be a little cold. Are we getting snow? It's going to be man football. If we get snow, then all bets are off. Yeah. Or we might get snow. I think Ryan Day, he's going to pucker up. It's not that he's going to go in with the same game plan. If it's tight, you know the mental edge is going to go Michigan's way. I think Sharon Moore is not a very good coach, so that's the only problem. But, yeah, we're excited for rivalry week. Okay, let's do Hot Seat Cool Drone, and then we will get to our weekend preview. We're going to start with all the Thanksgiving games.

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35:28Buddy, I'm a flash IV. Thank you, Zach. I am drinking Tropical Punch. Henry. My hot seat is the New York Post. Okay. Oh. What happened? They inaccurately put up a photo. It's a nice photo of Jerry O 'Connell, Rebecca Romaine, and his daughters. New York Post captioned it, Rebecca Romaine John Stamos. He's still getting cold. take a selfie with their daughter. He was also with John Stamos. I saw that. And he did like a, if I can change, you can change. We can all change. I saw that. That feels like it was intentional by the post. Yeah, fuck the post. We stand with Jerry. It's tough. What do you want us to do, Jerry?

36:14We'll fight someone for you. You know we will. I think we need to get a good old-fashioned enemy we can go after on Jerry's behalf. Because I think we're getting to the point of the fantasy football season where there may be a little too much infighting. He's kind of coming at us. There's a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. We need to, we need a common enemy. New York post is a good one. Unless they're writing something good about us. So let us know, Jerry, we love you. So we want you, we want to, we want to maybe come back together as a squad or just come watch some football with us on a Sunday. That'd be nice.

36:46Be fun. It's probably not allowed. What are you doing? I think.

36:51Oh, grabbing my cool throne. We spent too much time talking about the wrong knickknacks on this show. Knickknacks? Yeah. Paddywhacks? Yep. Give a dog a Hank? Give a dog a little Hank. He woke me up this morning with little Hank in his mouth again. It's just adorable how much Blake loves you. We have spent too much time talking about those dumb dolls that probably won't sell, but we have not talked about if you don't get one of the dog toys. Well, no. He said it won't sell. Right. So they'll be available. You're right. Well, you can get a dog toy. And if you actually want a nice gift of the podcast, we have these Mount Rushmore.

37:32Max just assaulted PFT. Don't speak for me. These are sick. Thank you, Max. The paperweights. Mount Rushmore paperweights and low man trophies. These are awesome. Yeah, Hank kind of looks like Gaz on there. I kind of look. What do I look like? Stud. No, I don't. It does kind of look like Gaz on there. Memes. Zoom in. zoom in real quick these are sick yeah so we're gonna have our Black Friday sale oh shoot I didn't bring up the game I'm at I'm at a big cat because I didn't do my job promoting game time this morning dang it okay back to you is that Southern Ox yeah that's Henry Henry I'm Henry I'm Henry I didn't know to look up the game because we only do it every single time we do a podcast we got Now I'm angry and I'm lashing out a little bit.

38:25Just a little teensy bit. Alright, back to you, Hank. So buy all this stuff. We're going to have new merch. I think people have been asking for those camo sweatshirts. Really sick hats, too. Sick hats, camo sweatshirts. The premium hoodie that we got. Lots of premium hoodies. So we got some new stuff for everyone in the Hank doll. What? And also Stella Blue. We got some new sweatshirts. We're going to have a discount on all the coffee, maybe a golden mug, tune in, everything. Everything's going to be great. Okay, PFT, your hot seat, Colt Jerome. My hot seat is Cordell Stewart, Denard Robinson, all these offensive weapons, all these athletes that play the quarterback position but are also elite at pass catching, your Julian Edelman's of the world, because there's a new sheriff in town.

39:17Ooh. jamis yeah jamis uh i looked up these stats for jamis he is third in the nfl in terms of yards per pass he is first in the nfl for yards per route run he is third in the nfl for his percentage of carries going for 10 plus yards wow he's doing it all he's offered to play tight end i love once jackson dart comes back i saw this quote i thought it was james joking around then i watched the video of him offering to play tight end and he's dead serious that's awesome he says i like to consider myself an athlete i believe i can make plays like that for this team if i need to play tight end i can i'll do whatever it is that's required for this team to have success he was dead serious i love this and he is uh he's the new slash yeah let's get him out there uh and then my cool throne is the pittsburgh pirates because the pittsburgh pirates made an offer to uh to josh naylor okay in free agency the pittsburgh pirates famously have not signed a big name free agent i believe since 2012 um so they made an offer per jeff passan uh josh naylor did not end up signing with the pirates he ended up signing with the mariners but then the report came out that the pirates did not actually make an offer to josh nailer the pirates just leaked information saying that they were making an offer so their offer to josh nailer was simply leaking news that they were making an offer to him what pieces just just to keep their fans happy when in reality nailer pretty much agreed to resign with the mariners right after the world series the pirates were never part of the equation whatsoever yeah but they were like hey just so you no, hey, fans, we're trying to spend money.

41:05Bob Nutting. No one wants to take our money. We're making an effort. We contacted all the right people to let them know that we were thinking about it. Don't be mad at us. We're trying. And it's the most Pittsburgh Pirates story ever. Yeah. Bob Nutting, you're a piece of shit, dude. You're on our list. Big time piece of shit. That is such a – they just want to – that's so frustrating. I hate that so much. These guys are such pieces of shit. Yeah. They really are. They really hate their fans. Yeah. They actively hate. They look at their fans like idiots. Hey, you guys want to buy some$500 bricks?

41:38Cool. We're just going to smash them in a year. Hope that's all right with you. They're fucking the worst. And when Paul Skeens leaves, which he's gonna, it's in there gonna be like, oh, we can't afford them. Oh, we couldn't afford to build around them. They're the worst. I fucking hate them. Yeah. Here's the quote from Ken Rosenthal and Evan Drellick. the pirates never actually made an offer to nailer according to people briefed on the discussions just two weeks after the conclusion of the world series nailer reached an agreement with the mariners five-year contract worth an average of 18.5 million the deal happened so quickly the pirates did not get seriously involved but they but they want you to think that they did yeah because that to them is as good as signing a free agent absolutely it does in their head okay my hot seat is uh the maui invitational because we're in feast week and this players era tournament has has completely cannibalized the maui and i understand it's probably hard to get to why but the maui used to be the maui means something to me it's something special they're playing in a high school gym in maui the rims are soft it's it's like a core memory of of thanksgiving week but now you got the the teams there no knock on the teams but they're not It used to be Kansas was there or Kentucky or UConn was there.

42:56Now we have Boise and Washington State. Again, no knock on these teams because they showed up, but it's because this Players' Era, is that what it's called? Players' Era? Yeah. Tournament? Yeah, the Players' Era. Fucking sucks. There's not even a real tournament. It's not a bracket. It's the Players' Era Festival. It sucks. It's not a bracket. They just do it on pool play, and I hate it. I hate it. So they've taken it away, and no one's in the stands there. feast week used to mean something man would you like it better if during the players era festival the coaches just wore the hawaiian shirts no it's still not i i need when when we when i tune into college basketball in these four day stretch in this four day stretch i need them playing in a room that is that holds like 500 people i need them in the ballroom in the in bahamar i need them yeah i need to see the atlantis and people you know i need to see a water slide when we come back from commercial it's bullshit so fuck the players era whoever created it i hate you the reason i don't like it is because unless it was fox this was my bad this is my favorite this used to be my favorite big cats favorite week of the year yeah and now it's now now it's not anymore because I can tell it's no longer his favorite week of the year.

44:17No, it's down on the depth chart of favorite week of the year. The battle for Atlantis also got fucked. I know. That's what I'm saying. Maui and Atlantis. Those were the things, and those were the tournaments, and now they just threw everyone in a sterile environment with no one there in Vegas, and they ruined the whole fucking thing. It sucks. Fix it. Fix it. It looks like it was founded by a guy named Seth Berger from Players Era. Ever Wonder Studio and Seth Berger. He is the man. Fuck you, Berger. Stupid. That sucks. All right. My cool throne is meeting chicks because we talked about Bill Ackman the other day.

45:03And Aubrey Huff, who is, I think his brain might be just gone. Alpha male? Yeah, alpha male. he came up with a better can i meet you and zach i want you to try this one you ready for it yes sir okay uh fellas next time you go up to a woman at a bar do this i've done this countless times and it works nine times out of ten walk up to the bar and stand confidently next to her order your drink from the bartender and immediately look into her eyes and don't break eye contact until she does while looking into her soul shout out to the bartender confidently and please my good sir get this little temptress whatever she's drinking so you following you're getting her a drink i'm following so far introduce yourself in a seductive and deep confident tone which intrigues her sexually proving you're a confident man not afraid to ask for what he wants then make an offhand remark which should make zero sense given the situation her curiosity is now peaked like you could do that yep when the bartender delivers the drinks ask him for a napkin and a pen while you're writing your name and number on the napkin speak these words in your best james bond impression which should be spoken seductively slowly calmly mysteriously and with a touch of cocky arrogance nice to meet you sweet tits and thank you for the drink i'll be sure to get the next one when you meet me later at the bar i'm headed to just slide the napkin to her while graciously letting the bartender know to put your drink on her tab then simply walk away leaving the bar sounds like a dick move but you'll be amazed how many times you'll get a text wondering which bar she should meet you at.

46:33It's like shooting fish in a barrel. You ready for that? Do I have to say sweet tits? I think the sweet tits is mandatory. That's the most important part. I think it's the most important part. There's a lot of checkboxes on that one. Yeah, and you had to basically trick this woman into buying you a drink. Now, Aubrey Huff wouldn't happen to be divorced, would he? Probably multiple times. Yeah. Yeah, who would have seen that coming? No. Yeah, he's just fighting with people online. Just getting upset. I feel like he was not very outspoken when he was playing, and then he just became that? I don't know.

47:11Yeah. Yeah, I think he just got addicted to posting. Yeah. I think he might be back on that speed. He was a big-time Adderall guy. Yeah, he filed for divorce on your birthday in 2012. It looks like he's filed a couple times. Oh, okay. The sweet tits. Zach, you got this. That's going to be a tough one to pull off, guys. I don't know if I got that in my bag. You got this. Sweet. Ties a kite during the team's 2010 victory as he struggled with the drugs. He uses performance enhancing. Okay. He would take up to 100 milligrams of Adderall daily. Oh, my God. He must have been just shitting nonstop. That's so much.

47:50Oh, that's right. I remember this. He was the rally thong guy. Yeah. He told everybody that he wore a rally thong. Yeah. I don't want to speculate. on a man's sexual proclivities. So I'm not going to speculate. Okay, that was good of you. Yeah. 100 milligrams is like... But we can all speculate. It's a lot. That's insane. That's insane. 100 milligrams, you're on the moon. I think I'm prescribed 15. Yeah. And it's like... I can't imagine how much... What do you... You just don't even... he's seeing the world in like 4D operating tasks. You'd be so dehydrated and just, oh, skinny. Now, I don't want to tell Aubrey Huff how to pick up women at a bar.

48:38It seems like he's cleaning up and very happy with his love life. But an easier way to be just to invade Iran and then kidnap the women from the country and then bring them back here and then make them marry you. Yes. Because he thought about that. That's pretty easy. Oh, he actually did. Yeah, that was his advice in January 2020 was to do that. So he's evolving. Yeah. This is the kinder, gentler Aubrey Huff. He's actually kind of a pussy now. Yeah. Now he's just like making. He's changed, bro. He's stealing drinks from women instead of kidnapping them. Yes. So that's good. You fucking got soft on us.

49:12Pussification of America. Aubrey Huff is just calling him sweet tits. Yeah. Zach. My cool throne this week could be. Some could interpret this as cool. Some could interpret this as a little bit warmer. but we have declared this is your hot seat first? oh my goodness this hot seat could be interpreted a little cool, a little warm that's why the lines get a little blurred but the booth has initiated holiday break on the booth diet oh you guys well deserved well deserved boys mission accomplished full initiated holiday break I'm going on the big O it's official I love it because I do it all the time where I start a diet somewhere around early November and then Thanksgiving week comes, you're like, I can't.

49:58I got to take a break from this for the next month and a half. I put in a hard like 10 days. We got to change. We got to go back. So you guys are on break. For the record, the pound any weight gained will be documented and then subtracted from the final weight goal. These pounds are outside of the challenge. That's fair. So what was the total loss? I'm pretty sure I've gained weight. Yeah, what was the total loss? I'm up right now. Yeah, yeah. I think we're all up. But I'm going on I'm taking the plunge I'm doing it I'm doing it So when you do it So are you going to restart The diet in the booth Because then you could just Be a hero Max Yeah no I think I'm I'm worried about losing Too much weight Yeah That's an issue Yeah no We're going to go We're going to go through This journey together And we're going to We're going to figure out The peaks and valleys Of what happens When you take the big O Okay Yeah if you got like Super skinny That would be fucked up No I'll you'll stop it'll be fun if i do get super skinny it'll be fun for me to like try and put on weight it'll be so easy yeah what size shirt is too small like what size do you get into you're like i gotta cut this no more no more big o i i i mean you an xl even an xl i think is too small i i just need to look feel look good in a 2xl yeah that's basically i'm a 2xl i could go to an xl if i could lose some weight if I ever I mean a large I don't even I remember I used to be a large in the 8th grade and I was like oh yeah this is good children wear larges men wear double XL some people wear medium I wear a large that does look like a large it fits you great I wear a large no this is a New Zealand large New Zealand large For some reason, New Zealand sizes are bigger, yeah.

51:52Okay, what's your cool throne? It's like a bedtime shirt. Yeah. Wow, Hank, all right. No, oversize is in PFT. It looks good on you. Yeah, the boys can't get a fit off, Hank? No, they can. They're just not. Our guy Colton, he wears like 6XL. Hank's just lashing out right now. Never had as many compliments on my fit as I did the last time I wore this shirt, so I was like, yeah, I'm going to wear it again. Run it back. But it is egregiously large. Yes, I agree. It's a sick shirt. Thank you. Congrats to the booth boys. Job well done. Mission accomplished. What? Memes is down. Talk memes. Yeah, I'm down.

52:27Okay. Good job, memes. Congrats. Max tried lumped us in. We're all up. I'm down. Okay. And Zach's up as well. Wait, I thought it was a team challenge. Well, you did it as a group. I thought it was a team challenge, right? It's a team challenge. There's no eyes. The team fell apart months ago. Yeah. Whose responsibility is that? The Phillies broke the team. Yeah, well, the weddings broke Penn State. No, it was the Phillies. We're going on the Big O. Everything's going to be – we're going to figure it out. We are or you are. We – Can we get Max in a – It's a collective. Can we get Max in a commercial?

52:59For the Big O? Yeah, that'd be sick. Or Majora or whatever. Sure. We did have a sponsor that was coming on. Yeah, I think I fell through. It did. Oh, let's get it back on. It's going to be like the Oakland A's. I want to try to do TRT. That was going to be so funny. I'm going to try to get on TRT. I love the idea of you guys just injecting each other with the Big O. Like it's Tseco and McGuire doing steroids. We'll see. The Big O is going to be a journey. Do you take anabolic steroids with the Big O to counteract any tiny traits? I don't think so. So like we go. I want the TRT. TRT? That could be fun.

53:34That's what I'm looking for. I like that our New Year's resolutions is just going to be like, let's just start injecting each other with things. Yeah, listen. so we shave a couple years off to the end of our lives. I think I might be gaining some years. I think I might be gaining a lot of years. There you go. Yeah. Think about it like that. Okay, your cool throne, Zach. My cool throne today is the India's Women's Blind Cricket Team. They just won the World Cup. Whoa. Shout out to them. Yeah. Against other blind people? Yes. That would be sick if they won it against seeing people. That would be insane.

54:07That would actually be impressive, but this Indians Women's Blind Cricket Team is so impressive I don't count that out against other cricket teams. But yeah, World Cup, world champions. I love that. How do you know the ball's coming? Does it beeps? No, it jingles. There's stuff inside the ball that'll jingle. They've got a B1 position, B2 position, B3 position. They have to have more than four B1 spots on the team. They met that criteria. B1 is completely blind. B2, as you can see, two meters. B3, six meters. I love that. I love that. Now, how do they enforce that? You're talking about the vision?

54:40Yeah. I would assume you go through some tests there, and then there's probably a little bit of honesty. Yeah. Maybe you throw it. I don't have the official test. I was going to say maybe they threw cricket balls from different distances, but that seems like that could be counterintuitive. And see if you flinch? Yeah. Like throw it at you? Like jump and try to move out the way. Yeah. I guarantee you there's been some crazy cheating scandals in the world of blind cricket. Oh, definitely. Yeah, definitely some vision games. But good for them. Congratulations. Congratulations. Session Tundalkar is very happy right now with them, I'm sure.

55:12Congrats to them. Huge feat. Shout out. Okay, let's talk some Thanksgiving. So we're going to do Thanksgiving preview right now, and then we have our interview with Stavi, our interview with A-Rod, and then we're going to do the weekend preview. So if you want to stop anywhere around the interviews, if you have to work on Friday, feel free to. Let's talk the Thanksgiving Day games and the Black Friday games. We'll give some picks as well. It's brought to you by DraftKings. Do you know about the three T's of Thanksgiving? Turkey for eating, table for gathering, and touchdowns for winning with DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL.

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56:58We ready? Very ready. Good games. So ready. Like, thank you. Shout out the Cowboys. Sorry, Max. But shout out the Cowboys for winning that game on Sunday and giving us a good game that has meaningful things. We got a great slate ahead of us on Thanksgiving. I think it might be the best we've had in a long time. As bad as the slate is going to look on Sunday, you're getting repaid on Thanksgiving for it. Yes. So first game, Packers, two and a half point underdogs at the Lions. Overrunners, 48 and a half. The Lions are wearing their throwback jerseys, which I don't really like. You know, the Thanksgiving ones.

57:32The thing is, I've got so many memories of the Lions losing in those uniforms on Thanksgiving. Yep. Yep. I agree.

57:43And I'm looking at this game, and all I keep thinking about is the Lions defense had to have, was on the field for 77 snaps two days ago. Yeah, against the Giants. Against the Giants. They didn't look good against the Giants. The Packers haven't really looked that great against anyone recently. No. Oh, no. They looked, I mean, they dominated the Vikings. And their defenses looked good. They did. They did. Yeah. The defense looks good, but offensively. Yeah. The Packers fans have many similar criticisms to how Eagles fans feel about their offense. Yeah. I'm more, I don't know what the line, like, are the Lions okay?

58:19I think that they're not the, they're not the Lions that we saw last year. Their offensive line obviously is not as dominant. and it just feels like they're just a little, a tick different, a tick off. I kind of like, I think the Packers might win this game. I just, I feel like the Packers defense is the best unit in this. Well, Jameer Gibbs is so goddamn good. Yeah, Jameer Gibbs is the best unit. Yeah, Jameer Gibbs solely is the best unit. But I would say that the Lions, they need to get Jamison going. Yeah, zero catches. Jamison is, he's like the difference maker because he's going to stretch the field.

58:56And if you hit him deep, then you start hitting Amon Ra on the underneath and let him just physically dominate people. They need to get him going. If they can get him going and if Goff has enough time to throw without Micah Parsons coming up his ass, I feel like that's – I would be confident in the Lions if they had a vertical passing game. Yeah. Jordan Love, by the way, has done very well on Thanksgiving. he's 2-0 71 % completion percentage 542 yards 5 touchdowns 0 interceptions 127 passer rating those are his two Thanksgiving Day games the also just big picture I was looking at the numbers the favorites and the overs hit on Thanksgiving which I don't know how I always lose money on Thanksgiving but I do but favorites on Thanksgiving are 51-9 straight up and 40-20 against the spread since 2004 That's pretty crazy.

59:51That is, yeah. And then road favorites are 25-1 straight up and 20-6 against the spread on Thanksgiving since 2004, road favorites being the Chiefs. Those are – I saw that and I was like, how do I keep losing? Again, I feel like that stat right there is a Detroit Lions stat. Yes, that is. And the Dallas Cowboys when they stink. Yeah, the Lions being underdogs on Thanksgiving is probably something that's happened a lot over the course of the last 20 years or so. For sure. But it's a different Lions team. But it's also, remember, it's against the spread. We're not talking about straight. Teams are just covering.

1:00:25The favorites are covering against the spread. Is Josh Jacobs playing? I feel like he was close to playing on Sunday, so I would say yes. But I have no inside information. Again, this is kind of weird because we're doing this early enough that we don't know everything in terms of injury reports and everything that's going on. So we're going to take some guesses. What's kind of crazy is that Wilson had 100 yards last week. That was the Packers' first 100-yard game by any running back this season. Yeah, remember I said that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Since week 12 last year. Yeah, in a game that Josh Jacobs did not play.

1:01:01Yeah. Kind of crazy. So I still think that Josh Jacobs is like, given the fact that they're minus their big play guy, their best receiver in Tucker Craft, I feel like a lot's going to fall on his shoulders Josh Jacobs from this point forward Okay, the next game Also Jack White's performing the halftime show Oh, is that it? If that matters, yeah Make it the Corgis Jack White and the Corgis Run it back, back to back The halftime show for Thanksgiving should be like goofy shit like that That's what we need Or the kids vs. mascot game Yeah Watch that, watch the hell out of that our next game the Cowboys at home against the Chiefs the Cowboys are three and a half point underdogs the overrunners 52 and a half this is again shout out the Cowboys for winning that game because it does feel like this game is very consequential now excited to watch this game I I gave you the stat about the road favorites I do feel like people are a little too high on the Cowboys I want to take the Chiefs but I also can't be hypocritical in my logic that the Packers are playing against a team that played in overtime in the Detroit Lions on a short rest.

1:02:17The Chiefs also played in overtime and now are on a short rest and traveling. So this is the second game out of four in a row that the Cowboys have against teams that won 14 games last season. Pretty crazy. I don't know the last time that's happened, if it's ever happened before in the NFL. It feels like maybe the first time ever for that. But they had the Eagles obviously last week. then they got the Chiefs on Thanksgiving then at the Lions then against the Vikings so pretty crazy that that the NFL put that in their schedule so if you're a Cowboys fan you I guess you have an opportunity to bitch and complain about how the NFL is biased against you but then you can look at literally everything else that's happened in the history of your team and say okay maybe they're not super biased against the Dallas Cowboys but yeah whoever wins this game I'd say very much still alive and they would be a team that you don't want to play the team that loses this game i think you can you can put the stamp on them eliminated you're done with them eliminated well i'm not done with them because i think both teams are playing good right now but given what the records are i say i personally say eliminated from playoff contention oh to the i disagree the loser of this game i disagree because i think that if the chiefs lose they could still because we were crusaded they got to go six six out of seven i think the chiefs could still lose it and make the playoffs i don't know if the cowboys can just by the nature of how packed the nfc feels at the top you know what's crazy is the last time these two teams played on thanksgiving you know who the coach was for the chiefs Last time these two teams played on Thanksgiving, who was the coach for the Chief Schottenheimer.

1:03:56It was Schottenheimer. Schottenheimer. Wow. And now Schottenheimer. I was going to say Todd Haley. I thought he was just talking about picking up milfs at a bar. Yeah, on Thanksgiving. Yeah. He's got some Aubrey Huff in him, for sure. No, but it was Schottenheimer's dad, Marty. Now Schott, he's coaching the Cowboys. By the way, there have been some accusations of plagiarism towards Schottenheimer. Why? His post-game speeches, they seem to be lifted word for word, bar for bar, from Pete Carroll. Oh. Who he worked with. I was saying if it's from his dad that's fair that's totally fair it stays within the family it's like a recipe it's like your Nona's recipe for meatballs and listen every NFL coach takes something that they heard Bill Parcells say one time and then they say it to their team you are what your record says you are yeah you just take those quotes let me shop for the groceries all that stuff you can lift it from either if the coach you're stealing from is your dad or if it's Bill Parcells who's like kind of everyone's dad in the NFL I don't think you can do it if that coach is still in the league i agree coaching is it but then the question is is p carroll still in the league coaching technically physically his body is there physically he's on the side is he still with us yeah i'm excited for this game i feel like the cowboys have not i feel like they've not played and this might be just way wrong someone's gonna tell me i'm way off i feel like they haven't played in a big consequential game on thanksgiving we're both teams i mean yeah although last year did you guys play him that was big last year the cowboys stunk last year uh yeah the cowboys were not good yeah so it's either one or the other like cowboys good years they play someone bad kind of thing but yeah this is gonna be this is gonna be a fun game to watch i have a stat that is i wonder i we should actually have like a status statistician on the show someday or math guy and just hit him with the dumbest stats and be like does that mean anything because I know it doesn't, but I also can't.

1:05:52I would love for someone to explain to me why it means absolutely nothing, the sample size and all that shit. Patrick Mahomes, fun fact about Patrick Mahomes, he has never lost a road game on a Wednesday, Thursday, or Saturday. Okay. He's 4-0. All right. Yeah. Crazy, huh? But he's never played on Thanksgiving. Nobody's played, obviously, Thursday Night Football. On other Thursdays. Yeah, wait. Is this his first Thanksgiving game? I believe so. That's kind of crazy. You'd think you'd put them on there. Yeah. I mean, yeah, they put them on all the other weird games. Yeah. So who are you guys leaning towards in this game?

1:06:30Do you like the Cowboys? I think I like the over. Hank, you think this is a game that the Chiefs always win? Yeah. I'm a little bit burned by them not covering last week, but the Chiefs, I like the over and I like the Chiefs. I like the over, too. probably not spread yeah but the chiefs are losing this game the chiefs could still win the afc west by the way if the chiefs went out and the broncos go two and two against the chargers jaguars commanders and packers that's not totally unreasonable and uh yeah so that's not crazy and then yeah there could be and then only one afc loss is required i gotta look at all of it There's still too many games.

1:07:16I can't get all the math down on the playoffs until we're like week 15. When we're like three games left, I can figure out all the stuff. It's just too many games right now. So my thesis on why the loser to this game will be limited from the playoffs is you can't have the number five in the win column at Thanksgiving. Yeah. You can't do that. Well, no, the Chiefs have six. The Chiefs do have six. I forgot about that. Yeah. So that's my thesis for the Cowboys at least. So then you're back to agreeing with me that the Cowboys will be eliminated, but the Chiefs will not. No, I stand by that part of the day because I think that the Chiefs, that division.

1:07:54But it doesn't matter. They can still. The Chiefs, man. Yeah, no. The Chiefs, man. I don't see it. I don't see it. I feel like the Chiefs, this is a must win. They're all must wins for the Chiefs. The Chiefs, man. They got to do it. Also last year on Thanksgiving. Goodell, Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift, dude. The fucking Super Bowl logo. It's an entertainment league. Super Bowl logo. The colors. The colors of it. Well, she's not playing the halftime show. So Goodell's mad at her for turning down the halftime show. So he's taking it out on the Chiefs. Yeah. Think about it, Hank. Last year on Thanksgiving, it was the Cowboys and the Giants because we remember it was Drew Locke against Cooper Rush.

1:08:29It was the year before you guys played. Yeah. Who could forget that game? Drew Locke versus Cooper Rush. Okay. Last game, Thursday Night Football. Bengals at Ravens. Ravens minus seven over under 51 and a half. Joe Burrow back. he's back i i don't think that he should be but he's back he's back just be competitive bangles because we do on paper have a very exciting thanksgiving day games and this game is important in terms of happiness and uh that like that late night or early night sitting around everyone feels like shit you still got to be talking to family members like give us something And the Bengals have no Trey Hendrickson.

1:09:15They have no Tee Higgins in this game. Yeah. They have Jamar Chase back. They do have Jamar Chase back. I think we were all hoping for another like 450-yard performance from Joe Burrow. They should schedule this game for early in the season before the Ravens fix their defense. Yeah. So I don't know if we're going to get that. Because last year it was two games that Joe Burrow, I think he threw for like 800-something yards total. And they lost both the games. this is a we'll talk to Stavi about it but this is a must look good for the Ravens offense yes you need the offense to do something Lamar is six and one versus Joe Burrow so kind of owns him the Ravens are going to be all perped up yep they're going all purple I love that all perped up on a Thanksgiving night Lamar also is like Garfield he hates Mondays yeah he just doesn't practice on Mondays it's the third week in a row where he just hasn't hasn't practiced I'm assuming since we're taping this Tuesday morning.

1:10:09He's going to practice today. I'm assuming he'll do whatever walkthrough or whatever it is the Ravens have scheduled for Wednesday. He just doesn't like showing up to work on Mondays, which, relatable. Yes, very much so. This could be the, I think it's the second highest Thanksgiving night game in history in terms of over-under. So they're telling us it's going to be a fun game. Yeah. We deserve three bangers. We do. This really would be nice. The exact stats on Burrow for last year, He threw for 820 yards against the Ravens, nine touchdowns, and one pick. Lost both games. It was incredible. Incredible.

1:10:46Yeah, it's not his fault. Okay, Max, Black Friday, you're going to be there. I will be there. Thanks for game time. Bears. Oh, what are the prices on that game, Hank?

1:11:04I was joking. That was a joke. Bears and Eagles. Eagles are seven-point favorites over-unders 44.5. How are you feeling, Max? We just don't have a secondary right now. Neither do we. I don't feel great about that. We lost both of our starting safeties. We were already down a safety, so we have one healthy. Sidney Brown is our only healthy safety on the active roster right now, which means we'll probably have to either bring up practice squad guys or move Cooper to Jean back there, which he hasn't done all year. So the secondary is an issue, but I don't know. This is a must win. Yeah. This is a must win for the city.

1:11:55The city will burn down if they don't burn. Oh, on Thanksgiving? Are you going to burn it? I won't burn it, but I will just see it burn down. Yeah. What's the difference between burning down the city in joy and burning down the city in despair? Vibes, for sure. You think it's worse? Unlike when the Eagles win the Super Bowl, it's Purge. And it's like, you can do whatever you want, and everything's legal. But when the city burns down bad, very, very much illegal. Are you thinking like awful loss? Boys will be ready to go? They get, you know, you bounce back off a loss. Would rather you guys win.

1:12:37You guys have changed this argument a million times. You ready to change it again? No. I'm going to. Nick Sirianni is 8-14 against the spread after a loss. Just change it one last time on your ass. Wait, Max, are you saying that you think that the Eagles are going to lose? No. Oh, so you agree? I agree with what? That bouncing back after a loss is a big thing. We're just flipping it on you constantly. This is bullshit. I'm not entertaining this conversation. I have a good stat for you, Max. Favorite shutout in the second half of a game. So if you're a favorite in a game, you get shutout in the second half.

1:13:17They're 60 % against a spread in their next game. So that's the bounce back stat. There you go. So you got a bad bounce back stat and a good bounce back stat. Your bounce back stat sounds – although I don't really care if they cover the spread. It's a big spread. True. Seven points is – win the football game. There's a lot of leeway there with seven points. I got two more crazy stats for you. Ready? This one we do all the time. Lane Johnson with and without Lane Johnson. The Eagles with Lane Johnson are 96-41-1. And then without Lane Johnson, they're 12-24. The offensive line was horrendous last week.

1:13:55And then here's the craziest. A lot of flags. Here's the weirdest stat for you, Max. You ready? Most flags under Nick Sirianni ever. You ready for the weirdest stat? The Bears, since 2006, this is the third time that they have won eight of nine games. What were the other two times? How am I supposed to do that? The week before the double doink and then the week of the double doink. That's pretty crazy. That is crazy. Yeah. That's a little weird stat. Max, when it comes to the flags, do you find that the refs are calling ticky-tack stuff against you, like you're under a microscope, or you guys just don't have discipline?

1:14:35That was undisciplined. That was just sloppy. I'm not blaming the refs. I mean, some people were trying to play that game. That's not going to be me. I didn't say one time that that CeeDee Lamb defensive pass interference was actually offensive pass interference because he stiff-armed. Cooper DeGene in the face as he was catching the ball, and that was pretty much a turning point in the game. I didn't say that one time on Sunday, and I'm not going to say it now. They just got to be better. They just have to be more disciplined, and we have to play a cleaner football game on Friday. You guys, from the offensive standpoint, I know you've talked about the Eagles a lot, saying how it's broken, we need to fix it.

1:15:10The first half you guys weren't broken last week. The first half you guys looked good. Yeah. You can just do that for a full game. We've played a lot of football games like that this year where it's been one half of football. It's just a lot of the Rams, we played one half of football in the second half. The Broncos, we played one half of football in the first half. The Cowboys game and the Broncos game were essentially the same game. A big problem is after the Broncos game, we got our ass kicked by the Giants. So I hope that doesn't happen. If you get out to a league. We have a short week for that.

1:15:42That's true. Good point. What, Max? I'm not entertaining. If you guys get out to a big lead in the first half, you should just not go to the locker room for halftime. Just stay on the sideline. Hey, I'll be dumb. And be like, we're not changing anything. But it wasn't even the first half. It was just a quarter. The first quarter looked good, and then they looked like shit. The vibes were already going down after the third touchdown, like the very beginning of the second quarter. Yeah. Can I do a permission to do real talk? Shout out to CJ Stroud with everyone here. Can I do some real talk? Can I do some trustee real talk?

1:16:18So I think I've been pretty reasonable about the Bears this year and that I've enjoyed the fuck out of it, but I've also been like, okay, we're beating some bad teams. We'll see how this goes. And I think part of my superstitious brain is like stay in that mode where you're not expecting anything crazy. You're not expecting big things. You have to stay in the mode of, hey, the shoe could drop at any time. This team is building to something, but probably a year away. real talk there's maybe been some thoughts in my head being like what why don't we just fucking beat the eagles and go nine and three yeah and like just start fucking ripping on why why don't we just keep winning games but i'm keeping those suppressed because i think superstitious wise i need to stay in that mode of hey this is so much fun i'm enjoying the fuck out of watching the bears but overall we're your way all these things you're afraid of the feelings you're afraid of the feelings that you're going to have if you win this game.

1:17:16Why don't we just beat the fuck out of the Eagles? Why don't we just fucking do it? Why can't we do it? We can do it. We're in every game. Eagles have no secondary. If you win this game, you're thinking soupy. Caleb Williams is nothing. Oh, if you win this game against the Eagles? No. You should. You beat the Super Bowl champs. You're not thinking soupy? Absolutely not. The Rams are so much better than every team in the NFL. Who beat the Rams this year? Of a block field goal. No, I'm not. I'm also sick of being... Block field. Don't let the field goal get blocked. You made the fucking play. I'm sick of people being like, oh, well, it was a block field goal.

1:17:49And a return. Yeah, good teams just don't let that happen. Who's disparaging the block field goal? Everyone. Everyone. Big Cat just said it. Everyone. I just said there's a block field goal. I think that if the Bears. No, no, no. You're wrong. Because they still have to play the Packers. It's how they do against the Packers. That's like the final. Because Packers fans are doing the whole thing like, oh, this is cute. The Bears are winning games. and wait until we play them twice and beat them twice, that's going to be the real test. But this game, we'll see. No, if you beat the Eagles, you should at least consider the possibility of Supi.

1:18:21You have to. Yeah, you should consider it. You have to. I'm not. They won the Supi and you beat them. You guys can try to do this, but I'm not going to. No, but if you beat a Super Bowl champion team on the road. Passing on the torch. Got to beat the Packers. You guys weren't talking about the Bengals, Ravens, the same way we're talking about Bears, Eagles, same spread. Well, yeah, because the Ravens, The Ravens didn't just win the Super Bowl. I did real talk, and they took it in a different direction. I stayed on real talk. They're going crazy. The Bears and the Eagles are both good. The Bengals are not good.

1:18:52I'm saying they're both seven-point spreads. I know. I'm going back to reality. Real talk over. I'm very nervous about the Bears' injury. We don't know right now because we're taping on Tuesday morning, but I'm very nervous about the Bears' injuries. We had no linebackers against Steelers. We lost two during the game. I think Kyler Gordon and Jalen Johnson are probably still another week away or whatever it may be. If the Eagles want to run the ball, they should be able to easily. We can't run the ball. I know, but the Steelers aren't like an insane running offense. They were just ripping off five yards of carry.

1:19:32What were the Steelers? I'm saying, Max, you have a lot of injuries on defense. We have a lot of injuries on defense. I think that it's going to be a very, very tough game for the Bears to win. Could they? But it's going to be a very tough game for the Bears to win. That's my honest feeling. It's my honest feeling. This is going to be a nice litmus test of can we compete with some of these teams that are on the upper half instead of everyone saying, look how you beat, you beat bad teams. The Steelers ran for 186 yards, 5.2 yards per carry. Steelers aren't like the best running team But they at least try We don't have linebackers They at least try to run the football The Eagles sometimes just They just stop trying to run the football Max why are you upset about Us not talking about the Ravens-Bengals The same way we're talking about this game He's saying because the spread's the same I know the spread's the same I mean you just like You hate the Eagles more than anybody else On this show right now That's not true You are the biggest doom and gloom guy right now For the city of Philadelphia that is not true that was real talk i was doing i wasn't doing we were we were in a safe space where i was saying why can't we just beat the eagles we're not gonna beat the eagles why can't we and then you're thinking soupy no you have to stop you have don't do this is the exact opposite of last year by the way what what are you talking about when the commander started to go on a run and big cat and yeah if you were like oh i'm not gonna think soupy yeah yeah i know oh you're I know.

1:21:03And guess what? He said no. I was lying. Yeah. I definitely was at least. I'm just saying this. I'm telling you the honest. I'm telling you the honest. No, no. Yeah, of course. It absolutely is the exact same. And my reaction is the exact same as PFT's. Yeah. I'm telling you the God's honest truth. The Packers are the – because everything always just leads to the Packers beating the Bears. And you've got to get over that. You've got to get over that. If we're going to draw parallels to last year, what would happen in this game is Jalen Hurts has to leave early. And then the Bears end up beating the Eagles with a weakened offense because they don't have their starting quarterback.

1:21:41And then now you kind of are thinking soupy, but you also have in the back of your head the fact that it was kind of a bullshit win. But you still try to hold it over Max's head for the rest of the season, knowing that if you do play the Eagles again, they're going to kick the shit out of you. I wasn't going to say all that, but I was thinking. I mean, that's what happened. I was just getting deja vu because it's just the same thing. The entire time last year I just had to keep saying, Jalen Hurts doesn't play defense, and then use that as the way I was taking the drug, saying just don't think about the fact that your win against the Eagles was an asterisk.

1:22:16But yes, there are a lot of parallels between last year and this year, but you've got to think super. No, because the Commanders also were winning games differently than the Bears were winning games this year. That's just a fact. The commanders were lighting teams up. No. In the regular season? The Bengals game? We were winning. That was a close game. That was a very close game. You lit them up. You scored like 40 on them. The record in one score games last year was insane. What was the Bengals game? The Bengals game was Monday night in week three, and neither team punted, neither team turned the ball over.

1:22:50It was a shootout. You lit them up. Yeah, we scored a lot of points, but they scored a lot of points too. That's the wrong season. And then you look at the other close wins we had. We had a lot of them last year. 42-14 against the Cardinals. 34-13 against the Browns. 40-7 against the Panthers. 18-15 against the Bears. Well, I'm going to be – I'm going to be – I'm staying – And it was coming – I mean, they lost to the Steelers. I'm staying realistic that the Bears are a year away. I'm not going to go all in on this is going to be the – They have flaws on their team. Barely beat the Saints. It came down to the very last play of the game.

1:23:28Barely beat the Eagles with no Jalen Hurts. Bless me. Barely beat the Falcons. And then barely beat the Cowboys. Yeah, I'm realistic that this is far from. 55-23 in the NFC Championship game. Wow. Yeah, that was mean. That's what it was. That was really mean. I'm just. That was really mean. Next game, too, 48-18. What? in the preseason. Oh, in the preseason, yeah. Oh, wow. Back to back. Getting killed. All right, Max, this will be fun, so you're going to the game. I'll be there. I will be there. Let's just be cordial to each other, okay? You will not be cordial. I will be cordial. If the Bears win.

1:24:10I'll take it with grace and just be like, hey. I will take it with grace. I will take it with grace. Because we are supposed to win. You want to have a grace off? Yeah, I will take it. I'll take it with more grace. For sure take it with grace. More grace. We're going to have a grace off. Max will take it with grace. He'll just go around talking to everybody, making the small talk. Yeah. How's everyone's Thanksgiving? Oh, what'd you have? Your stuffing? What'd you do in your stuffing? That's a good point. It's very graceful. It is very funny that Amazon sponsors the Black Friday game. Yes. Like a holiday that they are actively trying to kill.

1:24:39Yes. Yes. Facts. Okay, let's get to our interviews. We got Stavi. Oh, no, we got to do our picks. Let's do our picks real quick. Then we got Stavi and A-Rod. Everyone gets one pick for Thanksgiving Day games. Who's going first? That'd be Hank. Hank, you're up. One pick, one pick. Come on, Hank. I'm going to take the mutter fucking over. Give me an over. Let's go over. Let's go with the Chiefs, Cowboys, Chiefs, a lot of defensive snaps, just played an overtime game, short rest. Going to be a lot of points scored. No matter how much the Cowboys go up, the Chiefs are going to come back. So I like the over 52.5 Okay I'll go over 48.5 Packers Lions I'm just going to take Eagles minus 7 I'm going to take Zach's up I would like to take the Ravens minus 7 I'm going to take Over 44.5 In the Bears Eagles game Okay and I'll take the Packers plus 2.5 So let's get to our interviews.

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1:28:54It is Stavros Halkius. He is a Hollywood star now. But we wanted Stavi on because we realized something. We asked you to come on. When you're in Chicago, you always come in studio. We love having you on. But then when you're not in Chicago, we do ask you to come on whenever the Ravens are having a terrible, terrible time losing in the playoffs, whatever it may be. We wanted to reverse it for you. The Ravens are now top of the AFC North, 6-5, season back on, Thanksgiving night. So let's start with the Ravens. How are you feeling? We are back, but we're back. We're 6-5 and the whole division sucks dick.

1:29:36Do you know what I mean? It's like the least – and not only that, but I thought this would be the best part of the season. Like you know when you're eating a fucking steak and there's the little fatty part on the side and you just – you say to yourself, I'm not going to get through all this lean cut. I'm going right for the gristly fatty part. I thought I was going to enjoy that right now, right? Because it's like we're going to beat up on these shitty teams. We're going to win five in a row. I did manifest five in a row, by the way. I knew this was going to happen. but I thought we would beat the fuck out of these teams and we have barely eked out every single fucking win.

1:30:12Not one of them felt awesome. Not a single one has felt like, Holy fuck, we're back. I mean, Lamar, it's basically the team has flipped identities where it's like the first couple of weeks. It was like, our defense sucks, Dick. You know, I'm doing like, I'm thinking about flying to Seattle and begging Mike McDaniel or Mike McDonald to come back. I'm thinking about like, you know, uh, that we're so fucked, but Lamar was looking like the best fucking quarterback that's ever lived. And we still couldn't win a fucking game. And that, as soon as he came back, we figured out our defense and shout out to, you know, um, I do, uh, we, I do believe in this defense.

1:30:53I do believe in our coordinator. I do think, I mean, he's fucking young as shit, but he put it together last year. He needed to little, He needed to figure some shit out. I think our personnel moves have been really good that we just kind of shuffled it around to now we have a workable defense. And ever since then, our defense has been fucking awesome. But I remember what this feels like. This is what the Ravens teams were like when I was a kid. Awesome defense. I mean, the best player on the – we beat the Jets, and the most impressive performance was our fucking punter. Shout out to Sam Cook.

1:31:25He's the man. But it's like it's he's that was the best. That was the coolest play. The most exciting play was that fucking coffin corner punt, which is awesome. Yeah. But it's like we didn't. Derrick Henry had two touchdowns, but he our line is fucking dog shit. It's like this is the most this is the most like we we like this is the most like getting pussy with a limp dick I've ever had. You know what I mean? It's like it's like when you mask your 40 when your dick gets to critical mass. That's 51 % hard, and it's just barely enough for penetrative intercourse. We did just enough to win five games, and it's not inspiring, and I'm a little worried because, look, we have to beat the fuck out of the band.

1:32:12You want to talk about a defense that sucks dick. But Lamar has looked a little banged up. If we can't get our offense right with two Bengals games, I don't know what the fuck. So it's like, yes, I feel good. Yes, I believe in my boys, but I thought this was going to be – these five games were going to be awesome. And I have a theory about why this might be good for the Ravens. But anyway, sorry. You asked me – No, no, no. Give us your theory. Give us your theory. Because I have a theory too. We have competing theories. Okay. So I actually thought that obviously you never want to start with two win, one win, whatever.

1:32:47You never want to start the way we started. but this team has always faltered when the fucking pressure starts right the the deep i mean going back to when we lost the fucking titans the first playoff run that when lamar really put his dick on the table and had the that insane season and then i was at that chiefs game when we fucking law when taylor swift uh celebrated on m and in m and t bank i was fucking there i was crying while they were having a great time every time we get to the point we need to get to when it's like all right time for the next level something happens and I'm not one of these guys that says Lamar Lamar chokes I don't think that I think he's had pretty good games but the team overall tightens up uh game planning is always a little weirder everyone plays a little tighter it feels more spiritual than it as X's and O's.

1:33:40And so we basically, to get into the playoffs, every season, every game since two and five is a playoff game, essentially. And so we have an opportunity for the guys to feel this 10 games in a fucking row, what they went through, what they usually go through at the AFC championship. And so I think that's good for us. Having said that, I would have loved to get a couple just, I mean, yesterday was the game that really I thought, okay, the Jets fucking just traded their only good defensive players. We're going to, let's fuck them up at least. And we couldn't get shit going. So overall, I still think this is good.

1:34:21I still think we're on a fucking great path. I think a lot of the time it gets to just Lamar being injured, but that fucking, there's a little malaise with the team sometimes that I thought we could knock off. And we still, Listen, if we're going to make a deep run, I think we will knock it off. I think we got to get one of these other games. We're not just playing. I mean, we're playing the Bengals and the Steelers, but we also have to play the Patriots. And who's the other fucking team on our schedule? You got the Packers. The Packers. So, yeah, we have to – at least we get to measure ourselves with like – by the way, it fucking kills me that the Patriots are good.

1:35:00I mean, it's such – I know you guys are feeling it because fucking – Yeah, rubbing it in her face. I mean, it's fucking insane. It's fucking crazy. All we have to fucking go off of is Bill Belichick doing his bad grandpa shit. But that's the only nice part is how much his life is falling apart. And Tom Brady, I guess, to some level. But the fact that these cocksuckers get a good court. It's like I don't want to root against the well-being of any man, but it would be nice if something psychological happened to the Patriots. You know what I mean? like something like if he had like a if uh you know what's his face the uh i'm blanking on yeah if just if he had some kind of psychological i don't want to i don't want to root for injuries no but if he had some kind of mental breakdown some kind of depravedly schizofrate late onset schizophrenia and he has like multiple personalities and one of them is a bad quarterback that would be good at least if drake may develop schizophrenia and he's only good half the time and you don't know which personality is playing they deserve that at least they don't deserve a good quarterback immediately anyway sorry i i'm on no i literally have to make a i have to make i have to like make a flight and i didn't sleep and i just did a bunch of podcasts so i'm like hopped up on fucking espressos but none of them are asking you about the ravens you're right no one's i have a lot of thoughts yeah i want to get them out it's good and so i think this is still good we have to fuck the bangles up yes uh we have to fuck the steelers up the problem with the Steelers games is that no matter who's good, it kind of always feels like we split.

1:36:34Even when we're a juggernaut and they're fucking, you know, they could go three and whatever the fuck, or the flip side. It's always, Steelers games are always kind of weirdly rivalry games with this, you know, the way we've played them. I still think it's lining up really nicely for us to slay some of the playoff demons. Because if we just end up with 10, you know, if we end up with 10 wins, that's insane. Like that's a huge, like if you take, if you throw away the records from the first couple of weeks and we ended up with 10 wins, that's fucking huge. But, and to do that, we'll have to get at least a Packers or a Patriots win.

1:37:12So I think if we can come out of this, even as a wild card, lowest seed, I think it'll be like, well, we've never been the underdogs, right? And every time we've won, we've always been the fucking dog. Like no one thought we were going to i mean that the first super bowl no one thought we were going to win the second super bowl it's like everyone was sucking peyton manning and the fucking broncos off till my boy joey flax fucking got their asses caught them sleeping on deep coverage you fucking idiots and so i think like that's we're kind of at last time i was about numerology right yeah lamar was the right age the right every quarterback was 28 this time it's i was wrong we're not a numerology team.

1:37:53We're a vibes-based organization, right? We're, we have a smash-mouth defense. Kyle Hamilton is the fucking best defensive player in the league. He's so fucking good. That, it was what we were, we were trying to win with offense, and that was not the Ravens' way, right? Now we have a fucking awesome, awesome defense. Kyle Hamilton is our fucking star, and Lamar, the pressure's a little off him. He'll heal. Hopefully he heals, and if we lead with our defense, we still get these fucking we still get great punting. Best punting. I mean, those truly beautiful punting. Beautiful coffin corner. I mean, that did get my dick hard.

1:38:31As much as I would have liked a big play from Zay or something, that coffin corner was gorgeous. We get a couple of those fucking things going and now we sneak in. We're not favored in a single one of the playoff games. That's how the Ravens win Super Bowls. They don't win off buys. They don't win off MVP seasons. And so, I'm kind of hoping we can kind of get it all together. Yeah, I don't hate that theory at all. We've been saying for the last few weeks, I feel like the last three or four. Hey, what's up, buddy? Sorry, I'm at YMH Studio. The irony is I'm at a place that has like eight podcast studios and I'm just doing this in a fucking supply closet on my laptop.

1:39:09I'm sorry, go ahead. We've been saying that about the Ravens for like the last four weeks. These should count towards Lamar's postseason stats. Thank you. Because all of these are, they are playoff games for Lamar. And that's why he's playing not great. That's why he's not playing great. Yeah, okay, fuck you. Suck my dick. Enjoy this flash in the pan fucking season. You said thank you for beating the Steelers yesterday. Yeah, but I still could tell you to go fuck yourself. Okay, that's fair. I can still call you a schedule fraud. I like where your head's at though. This is the Ravens way. Get in as a wild card.

1:39:47Sneak up on people no x the only problem with that is i feel like the bills are kind of in that same lane right now yeah them it's like you guys and the chiefs you and yeah you're the chiefs too pat mahomes is really the underdog of this of these playoffs they'll never be the other no the chiefs will never be a fuck come what the what the fuck are you idiots talking about the chiefs are underdogs fuck them they don't deserve this that you know what good we're we can't even be fucking underdogs you want to talk about nobody believes in us shit they won't even let us be the fucking underdogs Fuck you.

1:40:18Biggest fucking football podcast in the world says we're the third underdogs. Fuck both of you cocksuckers. I'll show you. By the way, this is – I can tell that, like, you – because, you know, you're in big-time circles now. You're going to cons. You're going – you're on red carpets. You're just – Sure. Watch Gussie Begonia in theaters, folks. Everyone's sucking your dick. I'm sure Begonia – I'm sure the arthouse film I was in is going to get a big bump from PMT. Go ahead. New York Times is like he's our beacon of hope in toxic male culture. You're the hottest thing in the world. But no one asks you about the Ravens when you go to all these places.

1:40:54And we'll still ask you about the Ravens. Thank you. No one asks you about the Ravens. And if they do, they think I'm actually a racist who loves Joe Flacco more than my children. That's been the biggest curse of the Ronnie characters. People don't understand I'm making fun of them. So thank you for letting me get my actual opinions out there. Something about Flacco. Yeah, yeah, no. There still is something about him. I mean, you know that you're watching this. You're thanking God that it looks like it's going to be Joe Burrow and not Joe Flacco coming into Baltimore on Thursday. On Thanksgiving.

1:41:24Do you understand? Joe Flacco could have ruined your Thanksgiving. Either way, just to play against him would have ruined my Thanksgiving. It's like the Klitschko brothers would have never fought each other. I would have had to play Joe Flacco on Thanksgiving. That would have fucking hurt my heart. Every time he got touched, I would have been fucking sad. What do you do on, what do the Greeks do for Thanksgiving? What are some traditions that we can educate people about? Well, my family's not a big turkey family. So we just do the, you want to talk about Greek right down the middle, lamb, brother.

1:41:52We fucking, we roast a leg of lamb. We get Greek lemon potatoes going, tzatziki. We still have, we'll have some honky shit too. We'll fucking, we'll get some mac and cheese going. We'll get some mashed potatoes. I'm going to be making Uncle Stavi's down home mash for, that's what I'm bringing to the potluck as well as the lamb. So, you know, we like to get it. We just basically replace turkey with lamb, and that's kind of what we do. I mean, turkey's dog shit. Turkey sucks dick. Disagree. You guys don't know how to cook turkey. You hate turkey. First of all, there shouldn't have to be 12 fucking steps to make something delicious.

1:42:27Oh, you got to baste it. It's got to be this fucking temperature. You got to dry, Brian, and you got to deep fry it. How about I just put a fucking delicious cut of meat in the oven, and fucking three hours later, it's done. My house, we do turkey and steak, and the steak's always gone right away. 100%. For Christmas, I do a steak, a rib roast. I mean, Thanksgiving is left over from the time where people were eating fucking gruel for every meal. It was like you worked in the fucking factories, and you were eating fucking oatmeal paste and shit. That's why turkey was fucking good. It's because it was started back then.

1:43:00Now, we have everything at our fingertips. I'm not fucking settling for the peasant bird. Thank you very much. How much does this have to do with the fact that it's called turkey and you as a Greek have to absolutely despise – if it was called like Paris? It doesn't help. I do remember as a child thinking like that's why my dad didn't like eating it. Yeah. We really were indoctrinated from a very young age to hate the Turks, which we have gotten out of now. Shout out to my brothers in the Levant. Listen, if you deep fried turkey, it's the best meat that you can have. Yeah, if you deep fry jizz, it's pretty good probably.

1:43:38I'm still not eating it. Deep frying anything is great. That's not a good selling point for turkey. Exactly. All right, so serious question though, because I know you've got to run in a second, but you are the busiest man in the world. Do you feel like you – have you been accepted by Hollywood elites? Are you in a pedophile ring now? What's going on? Yeah, I keep refusing invitations. they say JP Morgan Chase bought Epstein's Island they're rebranding it they're going to make it a whole Moroccan theme now they got a whole new chef executive chef it's like when they fucking take over a casino they do it with a different style yeah I'm not there yet I have not been offered I've not been accepted into the deep pedophile rings and I will reject those offers thank you very much I mean, everyone says that.

1:44:32Literally everyone says that. I'm not. Listen, if it was a big-titted fucking, if it was like a caramel-colored big-titted curly hair. A milf ring would be awesome. Hey, I'm going, brother. I'm all over those logs. If it's a milf ring, if they need to change it to a milf island, okay? If they change it to milf island, you control F for Halkius on Epstein's logs, your fucking shit's lighting up yellow. I need a plus one. It's just going to look like a banana now and later. I need a plus one to Milf Island. That would be so funny. Take me to Milf Island. Why can't there be just some regular fucking Hollywood dudes like, yeah, we got caught up in Milf Island.

1:45:13It was just a bunch of women in their 40s with huge cans. Huge tits that know how to suck dick like a fucking animal. Come on, dude. They've got years of experience. Yeah, I'm on Milf Island. Israel can have videos of me getting sucked off by two milfs. They're not going to be able to use that as blackmail, believe me. That's going to be my... I'll put that out there. I'll put that out. That's Macron's jet, Milf Island. Old teachers. Get some old teachers on there. Sucking you off. Yeah. This lady taught me algebra in seventh grade. Now she lives on an island with me and sucks me off when I want it.

1:45:50Sounds good. I'm ready for Milf Island. Have there been any humiliation rituals that you've been put through? Yeah. Hollywood has not put me in a dress yet. Not yet, but I would probably do that if I'm being honest. I don't have a problem with that. When you're on the red carpet, though, like at some of these events, are you conscious sometimes of being like, what the fuck am I doing here? These people are just gorgeous. Dude, so I'm at the Venice Film Festival on the red carpet, right? And I'm in a car with hilariously, it's me and Alicia Silverstone, and I'm in a tuxedo. The guy, they take, you know, fucking somebody opens the door, and they escort Alicia Silverstone, and I'm supposed to go next on the red carpet, they just skipped me because they thought I was a bodyguard.

1:46:33They didn't even consider that I could be on the red carpet. I had to be like, hey, hey, hey, I'm in the movie. All the Italians were like, and they were like mad. Dude, I've never seen paparazzi more pissed off as like me blocking Emma Stone from them getting a shot of her. They're like, move. We're trying to fucking get the famous people, you fucking gargoyle. I do want to watch Bugonia. Yeah. You kind of threw some shade at us in our audience, thinking we wouldn't appreciate the nuance and themes. No, I'm kidding. I know you're a fucking highfalutin artist. I would love... Bugonia looks like it's a great movie, so I can't wait to watch it.

1:47:08Yeah. Check it out. It is very good. It's really good. Jesse Plemons, Emma Stone, Aiden Delvis. I mean, some of the best acting, and I was just happy to be there. And Jorges Lantin was one of the best directors. All right, so I know you got to run to a flight, so I got one last question for you. Roback.com, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo code TATE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code TAKE. Since we're going to air this the day before Thanksgiving, give us your thoughts on what's the final score of the Ravens-Bengals game. And are the Ravens, they're going to the playoffs.

1:47:38Yeah, yes, of course. They're winning the Super Bowl. Oh, they're winning the Super Bowl. They're winning the Super Bowl. It's fated to be. We're going as the fucking wild card. We're going to fucking be underdogs in every round, and we're going to fucking get revenge on everyone. This is how it's done. Fuck the Colts. We will finally avenge them for taking the team away from us. We should have won that one year with Steve McNair, but they fucked our asses. We get it back. Talking to Milf Island, we're going to fucking take over their new owner. We will avenge the Ursae bloodline for taking our fucking team away.

1:48:18We're fucking beating you. We're beating whoever the fuck comes in front of us. Hopefully we get to play the Bills or the Chiefs to be crowned the true underdog of these playoffs. This is how it was meant to be. Lamar's going to wake up right at the right times. He's going to get healthy right at the right times. And our defense is going to be awesome. Special team's going to be awesome. And, Stavi, there is a path that I could see through the playoffs. That is wild card against the Colts. Divisional round against the Broncos. At the Broncos. and then the AFC championship game at the New England Patriots.

1:48:53Revenge tour. Revenge tour. Run 2012 back all over that. Also, the Colts owner, she's a queen. We love her. I know you guys have to say that. No. I know you have to say that because they gave you that shitty, stupid, fucking banner or whatever. If you're an owner, I would play on the team if I were an owner. No, she is cool. Well, it actually pisses me off that it's the first Ursae I respect. Yeah. Because, like, they did take the team, and then it was very easy to make fun of the guy who died. May he rest in peace. Hopefully he's taking Xanax in heaven right now. But I do respect her because she's in the mix.

1:49:30She's trying to learn about football. And I like that she made some win-now moves. That's what more owners need to do. Fuck it. Believe in your team. Don't try and penny-pinch like, you know, shitty fucking owners. Actually try and make your team better. but yeah I do have to come back I have general football I literally have to run or I'm going to miss my flight I'll tell people to buy my buy my calendar the 2026 calendar there you go you know I'll send you a link great stuff alright yeah we'll talk more hopefully when the Ravens are going into the playoffs maybe we can fucking catch up boys perfect Stavi was brought to you by YouTube TV our friends at NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV have a great deal Look, the week of Thanksgiving is the best time of the year.

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1:51:58He's here. He has a new documentary out, and we also want to talk Timberwolves, baseball, everything. But let's start with the documentary, Alex vs. A-Rod. I watched it. It was awesome. it's three parts on HBO go watch it now it was really really great because it felt like it was maybe and you could tell me if I'm wrong the first time that you you told everything you let everything out there what made you decide that this was the time to do that because it was it was fascinating to watch yeah I'm Dan look I've known you a while and uh thanks for having me on your show obviously I'm a huge fan of your show you guys are killing it and you guys kind of wrote the book and just being authentic, right?

1:52:37And I think I've been overwhelmed with how positive, honestly, the response was. I got a little PTSD that everything I do, I think you're going to get slammed. And this has been exact opposite. But I thought it was important to do this now because my daughters are now, you know, 21 and 17. I wanted them to make sure they were okay with it. And not only were they okay with it, they were excited about it. And my young daughter, Ella, said to me, who you've met, she said, Alex, I mean, dad, if you're going to do this, we're going to do this. We're going to be raw. We're going to be real. And we don't want to see any more apology tours.

1:53:15This is our story. And that's it. And I thought reflecting back on it, as I think about, you know, the next generation of young athletes, young women, young men, really anyone in between the ability to talk about mental health is a really important topic. And I hopefully can inspire and save some people's, you know, future. Yeah, it is refreshing to hear you speak honestly about some things that you've you've kept very close to yourself for decades. In some cases, it must also been pretty nerve wracking, because there are things that you've guarded. And for the first time, you're going to talk about them openly, honestly.

1:53:52And you were probably pretty nervous going into that might have felt uncomfortable. Was there one thing that you were most fearful of opening up about and then what has uh the response been after you opened up about that thing i think yeah it's a great question i think everything really i mean um when you when you let it eat like that i mean those that those i mean some of my teammates called me and go dude what the hell i didn't know about your father i'm like nobody knows about my father right that's how close i'm very close to my teammates cc went to the premiere and a couple other my teammates were like oh my god i had no idea about that game in minnesota where you know He went to those only four games of my career.

1:54:32I think just walking everyone. I mean, the biggest, the toughest thing was like reliving those moments, open up those wounds, which, you know, were very painful, the stuff that I put on myself. Right. And you get some PTSD because like when you do things like you get hammered. but this has been exact opposite, like putting everything out there, the response that I've gotten from universities about mental health, from just people that are in the work field, people that have been thinking about doing therapy. And they just honestly appreciate it for the first time, seeing the very raw best version of myself, I guess.

1:55:10Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The, the, the, the father part was something I didn't really know. And for people who go watch it, But your dad one day just kind of walked out of your life when you were a kid. And I thought even like the most striking part to me of the documentary is like having these people who are very close to you speak honestly, like your ex-wife even saying like that was something he was always chasing. I don't know how many guys would have their ex-wife talk on a documentary about their life like she did and she did a great job. But like, you know, was it something that you consciously when when was the moment that you realized, like, yeah, I probably was overcompensating for the fact that my dad, who I was very close with, just got up and left in the middle of my childhood.

1:55:53And then I became the man and I became the guy that everyone put their pressure on. Did you have a moment even maybe what happened during this where you're like, oh, yeah, this is a lot of who I am is because of what happened there. Yeah, no, I think the reason why, you know, I started doing this work over 10 years of therapy, and I'm still in it in therapy. You know, I was saying, like, in good days, I'm kind of, like, starting to round second. Most of the time I'm still at first base. You know, we're all in this great journey. But I had no idea then that I would act and behave the way I would because I was so locked in, almost like Rambo, just, like, trained to kill, trained to play baseball.

1:56:32And I knew that was my responsibility to take care of my family because I wanted to be all the things that my father couldn't do for us, at least financially. But what I was realizing that as great as I got to be as a baseball player, I was becoming more detached from reality, from self-awareness. My ego was getting inflated. But I think more than the ego, it was just the lack of self-awareness. And when I talked about Dr. David, for some of the listeners who haven't seen the documentary, Dr. David, who I think saved my life, he helped me rewire the brain to really understand other people and understand my place in life.

1:57:10and that was a huge disconnect I had at 21 when I was second in MVP I looked like I was 28 years old as a man and a maturity and I was like seasoned veteran at 21 but as a man I was I still had the development of a 12 year old yeah yeah I mean I've always said because I I do know you pretty well and I think that people don't realize that being the biggest deal when you're 16 you You know, you were at 16 years old, everyone's like, look at this kid from Miami who's incredible at baseball. Being 1-1. Having all of that at a very young age, it probably stunts a lot of your growth. Because you don't have the regular, hey, I'm a drunk college kid hanging out, making mistakes.

1:57:54You have the lights bright on you from very, very young age. And you just can't cope with it the way that some of us are able to when we're later on in life. Yeah, I mean, look, that's a great point. And what I will tell you is this is that I and I said this for my daughters as well as I don't wish anyone and it's counterintuitive right now. I don't wish anyone that type of success and a type of fortune that early in your life, because it does the opposite of creating great character and grit. Right. I remember as an 18 year old, when I first got called up to the big leagues, just a few months removed from my high school prom, you know, a few months before that my teammates, like Griffey and Buhner and Randy Johns, these guys were all going to a bar in Boston and they're like, Alex, you want to come?

1:58:46And like, I'm like, I'm three years away from being able to enter a bar. Right. And that was the first time that I was like so far, like my life was going in a different direction professionally, but obviously what suffered the most was my personal development. Maybe I needed to be with you, Kat, drinking a couple of kegs and just having a little bit of fun. Yeah, no, but it's a real thing. When you're 18, you're not supposed to have that type of responsibility and pressure on you, and you don't have the normal, hey, I'm fucking around, I can make my mistakes. All your mistakes are very public, and it's a lot difficult.

1:59:16I think we're getting better also as like a society of seeing athletes not just as these perfect people but flawed humans. Like that was the big takeaway from this documentary is like you're a flawed guy, but we're all flawed in some way. Yeah, I love Mike Francesa, who I thought was great. I thought Kate was great. I mean, just to have my ex-wife, who's still my best friend and co-parent to our two daughters, Natasha and Ella, Like, I'm so proud of her to be able to go there and be so brave. Like, I've gotten a lot of response from people who are divorced, who don't have an optimal relationship.

1:59:50So that was a thing. The way my daughters have grown up because of my help with Dr. David and our relationship. And then what I've been able to do after my baseball career. I started with you with our podcast, which is a lot of fun. So all those things, this is stuff that I've been working now for north of 12 years. So I think it would have been super disingenuous and probably old A-Rod would have done documentary in the middle of my thing and been like, no, I didn't want anybody to know about it. That was the hardest thing I had to do. And then reflecting so many years later, I think letting people know that it's okay to get help.

2:00:25As a matter of fact, I was so broken. I don't know how people can do it without some help. Yeah. No, it's a great point. And the situation that you were put in is just, it's an unwinnable thing for the brain. I mean, you obviously had a great career and you lived up to every expectation that was put on you at such a young age. But from a young age, you're told, OK, you're the next big thing. You're going to be one of the greatest baseball players. Then you go into a career where you actually fulfill on what people have already set in front of you. You're feeling great about yourself. You make a choice and you sign a big contract with a different team.

2:00:59Now, all of a sudden, the entire world is like, we hate this guy after it's been nothing but love for the start of your career. Did that surprise you? Did that shock you when you signed with Texas about how much hate you would get compared to, you know, like in modern day baseball, your free agent signed a big contract and everybody's like, that's awesome. Good for that guy. But the hate that you got at the time, it feels like it would have messed up anybody that had been told you're the greatest. You're going to be a great baseball player. Everybody loves you. you're very intuitive because if you fast forward to that was 2021 i mean 2001 and if you fast forward 25 years you know when juan soto almost gets a billion dollars and shohei otani they're celebrated like icons as they should because they earned it no one gave them anything so if you looked at me if we look now and i go let's play a trivia question and you look back in my career and say, what will you get destroyed for?

2:02:00Signing a big contract where you earn it. And at that point, I hadn't even jaywalked yet. You know, just an innocent kid that came up in Seattle. That or would you get destroyed for this documentary? I would have gone 100 to zero. This documentary will be destroyed. Why would anyone destroy it? And it's been exact opposite. Right. Uh-huh. Right. It's just live and learn, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. I think the only misstep I think you made when you signed that contract was you were like yeah i signed because i wanted to play for a winner yeah when you went to the rangers and that was if i have to do it again i was like yes you know what my mom collected food stamps at the age of 12 i'm chasing the money because it's a once in a lifetime opportunity yeah and just yeah yeah was it difficult talking about the steroids part of it because i know obviously that's that follows you and um it it's it's obviously you have to talk about it you have to get into it but it also does sometimes take away from the fact that you were a really good player without steroids so it's not like something like hey you were a guy who was a flash in a pan and then took steroids and then hit 50 bombs was it hard though to bring up all that stuff and talk about all of it again yeah it was very difficult for sure cat but you know when when i think two of the most important years of my career and it's just like a win for myself i think is when i had like the best year of my career was probably when i was 20 years old uh where i won the batting title and I hit.358 and hitting behind Griffey with Edgar Martinez.

2:03:29I had such a great bunch of mentors there and Lupinello, of course. And then at the end of my career at 40, I had another amazing year. And that was like after the suspension. So if you bookend those, for me, that told me a very important story that I don't need any of that stuff, which was very important. Was it difficult? I've had a lot of friends ask me, like, why would you get into this? Why not just brush it under the rug? I said, no, that's exactly the point. we got to highlight my flaws yeah because there's other kids hopefully there's a new young kid who's 15 who wants to be like the next a-rod or the next jeter or the next griffy and they can look at my mistakes and learn from them and then they can be the best version and go to the hall of fame and use something that i didn't need obviously and it was a dumb ass mistake that i made and you know but after the therapy fellas one thing i'm proud of is i'm proud of everything the the highs the lows the good the bad and the ugly because that's just a person that just made a mistake there's not a baseball documentary if you want a baseball documentary you're going to be very disappointed I think this is just a journey and a mental health story about someone who's just trying to figure it out as a regular person do you think the hall of fame will ever come calling I mean it's we're pro like you got to tell the story of baseball and you're part of the story of baseball you're a very big part of the story of baseball so is Barry Bonds so is Mark McGuire like a lot of these guys so is Bud Sealy it seems yeah it seems foolish to us so do you in your brain like if I if we hit you with true serum you're like yeah someday I'll probably get in I can't go that far I can say that I'm hopeful yeah but if I don't get in I mean I can just look in the mirror and see that's the person's fault it's my fault right but I'm hopeful and it'll be a great day but also the difference is I'm not tied to it and and I think my my first indication is a rod with 696 home runs when i get those three phone calls from those three other teams i would have gone to taiwan i would have gone to japan i would have gone to tokyo you name it china to get those four home runs and the fact that i was able to walk away and i didn't need those four home runs to validate me that was the first step of growth that i was really proud of yeah i feel the same about the hall of fame do you think you could hit four home runs if i gave you a full season right now yeah i do yeah i do too absolutely we should because it's uh is it johan santana that retired like i think he had 1 ,980 something strikeouts one team should sign him another team in the division should sign you and then every time you guys play each other you face off whoever reaches a milestone first also think about how much money that those home run balls would be worth oh to the lucky people in the stands to the people taking their kids their families to the game have a chance to catch a three million dollar home run from a rod that's a great point i mean i would just need a couple ambulances because after the games i'm gonna have to like going to take care of my body yeah but but the other thing is like today i mean you can hit 200 and strike out 200 times and you get a five-year contract so maybe i do have a chance that's the funniest thing you could do is is come back hit four home runs and then get busted for steroids again that would be hilarious a fourth documentary yeah i love it there you go then it keeps feeding itself so fucking funny like yeah he wanted the four home runs what the fuck are you gonna do yeah 45 years old you start your own podcast again and then you then you do like updates on being you know they asked me to pee into a cup and they're like i didn't do the you deny it on your podcast and then like a week later you'd be yeah i think this is uh we got some legs here good business plan um back to the uh the the moment that you decided that you were going to take peds for the first time though because i don't think it doesn't make you a bad person you realize that now right like you may you made a choice you're not happy with the choice that you made at the time but you made that choice for a reason so what what was the reason that you decided okay yeah let's give this a shot well i i think i got into it in the documentary And I talked about, you know, not being able to, it was hard to get out of bed.

2:07:34You know, I've had two hip surgeries, two knee surgeries. Felix Hernandez hit me with a changeup and broke my thing. And honestly, I just couldn't get out of bed. And, you know, I don't want to kind of spoil what I said in the documentary, so it's a little shameless plug here. Yeah. Ultimately, I knew that once I crossed that line with HGH, it was a wrap. and I knew I was on the wrong side of history. So I think just the want to get out there and perform, the sad thing is in that time, I think I averaged over 40 home runs in my career. In that time, I think I had five or six home runs. So it was just a shit show no matter how you look at it.

2:08:12Yeah, so I've watched the first, I think it was the first episode and half of the second episode. It's really good. I'm going to finish it. I recommend everybody go out there and they take a look. You're talking about being able to come clean about all these moments in your past. so far and maybe you address it in the second half i don't know um but there's a big thing that maybe i'll give you the opportunity to come clean about right here the centaur painting inside your apartment that you denied to us last time we asked you about it you denied um is it is it a minotaur is that what is that we're off about or is it technicality maybe it's not a painting is it a a sketch is it charcoal by the way it's such a great story that i don't want to spoil it and and i would have it but i'm just not that creative to be quite honest i just have like you know silly things at my house like you know those are silly yeah yeah drinks at the bar like that's very silly i wish it was that clever i not a bad idea but so you had it or you didn't have it never had it never thought of it but i like the idea what about the kissing the window the mirror that i did that was a that was a mirror yeah and that I've been there like seven hours and the guy goes, I have one more shot.

2:09:23One great idea. Yeah, that one more shot. He's like, why don't you get up against the mirror? It's very artistic. And then obviously it was Central Park where I laid out. I got some rays. Yeah. I think that's a really cool thing. I mean. Yeah. Yeah, you're man of the people. What if we sent you an A-Rod Minotaur or an A-Rod Centaur painting? Like if we had it done. Would you sign it? Would you sign it for us? I don't know if I'd sign it. I think I will go to the studio and do it, and we'll celebrate it and memorialize it in the studio. Done. Yeah, done. Yeah, no, we would hang it on the wall. I have Chelsea Artis, Chilling with Chels, will make it for us.

2:09:58We'll have you sign it, and we'll put it up in the studio. I love that. All right, I want to talk a little baseball and then Timberwolves. Baseball is in an awesome place right now. The pitch clock has been incredible. That was one of the best World Series we've ever seen. Are we going to get a lockout? I really don't want one. I feel like we're in trouble. Tell me that we're not in trouble. I'm hopeful that we have so much momentum, and I agree with you, Kat. This is the best baseball's been in 10 years. I think Rob Manfred has done an incredible job with the time clock, with the bases. I mean, the pace of the game.

2:10:30I've watched almost every pitch, almost every pitch of every World Series starting in 1985 when the Royals beat St. Louis, and Brett Saberhagen threw that complete game, and George Brett hugs them. Of course, your Cubbies, great year. But I think having three iconic games and seven games with, you know, Yamamoto and all the superstars, I think there's so much momentum. And finally, we have so much tailwinds. I think you have very smart people at the very top that understand that. And hopefully they can come to a resolution quicker, faster rather than, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Because it just feels like it's we're in a moment in time where it's like baseball feels because baseball ebbs and flows.

2:11:09It's struggled at times because it becomes very regional. But that World Series, like that is the momentum right there. That was one of the best. I mean, it really was. It was just every single moment. I also, by the way, I didn't realize you said this is a documentary. You're such a baseball nut that you would come back after a game and watch your game back like once or twice. That's insane. Well, I mean, after you see this documentary, you will realize that I am insane. Yeah, just watching baseball. I think Cynthia talked about it, my ex, in the documentary. Not only would I watch my at-bats, because back then you had to actually watch the whole game to watch four at-bats.

2:11:48You don't have, like, the iPad now that everything is so easy. So that was one. And then I would have three games from the West Coast. You know, I have the Dodger game, the Giants game, and the Mariners game. So it had four TVs. My wife wanted to kill me at the time. Yeah, that was what I would do. Yeah, true baseball nut. Yeah, so one more thing on the World Series, just to put a button on it, Just to celebrate it and memorialize it, the fact that you had 51 million people watching when you include the three markets, U.S., 27.5 million. You have Toronto, Canada, and then you have Japan. I mean, these are NFL football numbers and baseball, which proves that when you have a good product and a good pace and great strategy and seven games, baseball hopefully is here to stay.

2:12:35Yeah, it was incredible. And you have unique perspective on this, given you're an owner of the Minnesota Timberwolves. You were a baseball player for a long time. How do you see the negotiations playing out? Like if it's Alex versus A-Rod and you're negotiating against yourself from those two perspectives, what do you see being the ultimate compromise for baseball if we want to make sure that we have a season going in the future? Oh, boy. That's a great question. I mean, you know, the Dodgers have become the powerhouse of powerhouse. I mean, they're one of two teams in sports that surpassed the$1 billion top line revenue is the Dodgers and the Cowboys.

2:13:19And when you have a team like Tampa that makes somewhere like, let's say, a buck 50, when we have the same question in five years, it's probably going to go to a billion five to 175. So the rich keep getting richer and it makes it really, really tough for these secondary and tertiary markets. So I think there has to be some type of conversation about how do we kind of bring everything a little bit closer to the middle. And I mean, look at Oklahoma City as an example, right? They're like one of the lower markets. They won a title and they're favorites to win again. I mean, they don't lose. And just a few months ago, they almost gave three players almost a billion dollars, right?

2:13:58That's a really healthy league. I think, could we pull some from the NFL? Could we pull some from the NBA? The best versions of each and see if we can compromise and make sure the players are happy and the owners can manage it. Yeah, I've actually, I've really enjoyed watching you on the post-game coverage throughout the playoffs, all that. Does it personally affect you when David Ortiz says the Yankees lose? It hurts my soul. It hurts my soul. You know, Poppy's my buddy. A lot of people don't realize Poppy and I came up together at 17 with the Mariners. and so we've been friends for over 30 years he's just one of one Jeter was outstanding this year I thought it was his best year he's had with Fox and then Kevin Burkhardt is just the ultimate point guard and we had a lot of fun it covered it seemed at times like he was he was spiking the football a little bit like him and Vladdy just going back what was going through your head when they just kept going back and forth and they just wouldn't stop saying it wake me up from this freaking nightmare this can't be happening yeah they loved it yeah when you win when you win you can spike the ball and uh you know blue jays had an incredible i still cannot believe they almost outplayed the dodgers in every game and the dodgers show you why they're the world champs they just find a way to win pretty impressive yeah well how uh so so owning the timberwolves now how how is it what's the hardest part about owning a team that you didn't see coming that you're like, oh shit, this is kind of more difficult than I expected.

2:15:24Well, we have two teams, so there's never an offseason. When there's an offseason, you're really dealing with drafts and the business side of things. When you're the other ones in the season, then you have the other draft. And so that is a 365 kind of 24-7 business. And then I think the hardest part emotionally is that much harder than a player, there's nothing you can do. Like as a player, you can always go try to grab in a bat and make up for yesterday. As an owner, you guys just cheer louder. You're helpless. But it's been so much fun. It's been such a privilege. The NBA is just an incredible league with great leadership with Adam Silver.

2:16:04You have great owners all around the board. I sit in the boardroom, and it's really like a pinch-me moment that someone with my history can sit in that room and live out my dream. I'm incredibly grateful for that opportunity. I also feel like you've been working on your jump shot. Is that facts? Yeah, but my jump attack sucks. No, I mean, that's not true. I see you playing. I see the clips. I mean, it's one of those moments like, oh, yeah, he was one of the best players of all time in baseball. He probably will be good at basketball too. And you are. It's called Instagram. Like, don't believe – I only post like the really good things to like pretend to tell people that I'm a good athlete, but I'm probably not a good shooter.

2:16:44Yeah. How involved are you in like the small stuff around the team when it comes to the halftime performances? when it comes to all that stuff? I just think big picture. I think, you know, my partner, Mark Laurie, who's an amazing guy, and at some point you guys should come and host one of your shows for a couple of days in Minnesota in our arena. We'd love to have you. Yes. And, you know, we have a great bunch of young guys, Anthony Edwards and Rando, and, you know, we're really excited about our team and our future. I just, our job is to really set the vision, go hire the best people in the world and let them, and get out of their way.

2:17:18So we have a great team. They do a fantastic job, and we're more like high level. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. I would fall into the trap of just being like, let's get – we were talking about the corgi races the other day that the Lions have. I would be planning all that stuff out. Bring Red Panda back. 100%. Let's have Red Panda week here. Yeah. Yeah, I would make all those phone calls that nobody else wants to pick up. What about the – what's the spread like during the games? Like if you're watching at the arena, what kind of food situation are we looking at? Good question. Pretty good. Pretty good.

2:17:46I will say this, it's a lot healthier in 2025 in sports in general. As a young kid, we would have all kind of fried food and fries and burgers. Today, there's brown rice, there's salmon, everything's grilled, there's nothing fried. You have shakes. I mean, these guys are just like Ferraris, so we've got to take care of them. Yeah. All right, I got one last question for you, and this has been awesome. Great having you on. When you come to Chicago next, I'm going to get the painting done, and then we're going to, whenever you're in Chicago next, we'll do a whole putting it up and signing it. It will be awesome.

2:18:20I would agree with that as long as you come sit next to me on the floor when we play the Bulls. Done. Done. We'll set it up. Yeah, we'll set it up. Absolutely I want to go to that game. I've only sat – I sat courtside like one time in my life. It's so insane. Watching the athletes – We'll make it twice now. Yeah, watching NBA athletes like just the size and speed that close is – blows your mind. It really does. Alright, my last question, Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. Promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. Q-Zips, Polos, Hoodies, Joggers, Shorts. Roback dot com. Promo code TAKE.

2:18:55I'm curious what was Jeter's reaction to the documentary? Because you guys obviously had a history. You had a friendship. Then it was kind of strained. Then you became teammates. And he's front row to all this stuff happening. What was his reaction to the documentary, and how was your guys' relationship? Our relationship is great. It's as good as it's been in, I would say, over 20 years. And part of it is, Dan, is me growing up, right? Like, I mean, when I look back now, I'm like, man, I must have been a very difficult guy to deal with. And, you know, Derek has great parents. He's a great human being.

2:19:31He's got great character. And obviously, looking back, it's easy to see that he had the maturity at 21 of a 31-year-old. and at 31 I had the maturity of a nine-year-old. So we were just not in the same wavelength. Where we always jived is we always loved and respected each other's game. We both played every day and we both have one commonality is we wanted to win and win badly. Yeah. Very cool. My last question is a hypothetical situation. Put yourself in the batter's box. You're down by one, bottom of the ninth inning, two outs. You got a runner on second. Who do you want up, Alex or A-Rod? Ooh.

2:20:13You got to go A-Rod. I would say A-Rod. You got to go A-Rod. I feel like Alex would handle. A-Rod's nuts. Yeah, Alex would handle. Like if you did strike out, Alex would handle the disappointment in a more healthy way. But you want to win the game, right? You got to put A-Rod up there. Yeah, you got to go with the killer. Yeah, you want A-Rod in the box. You want Alex at the press conference after. That may be the most intelligent question. There you go. Intelligent question. Over the last couple weeks. Thank you for that. Well, I feel like we're interviewing Alex right now, right? But A-Rod could come out.

2:20:47You never know. You're funny. You say that every time now I get an Uber in cities and all that, the guy's turned around and is like, is this A-Rod or Alex? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You should maybe wear a pin where it's like the Fogo de Chao where you flip over the button if you're done with steak. It's like, I'm Alex today. I'm A-Rod today. Yeah. My answer is like this. A-Rod, you get one star and no tip. Yeah, right. Alex, great guy. All right, well, Alex, thank you so much, man. We love having you on, and let's definitely set up. We'd love to come sit core side, and you're the best, and everyone go watch the Alex vs.

2:21:21A-Rod documentary on HBO. Can't recommend it enough, and happy Thanksgiving. Same to you, and big fan of you guys. Keep it going, and happy Thanksgiving back to you. Okay, before we get to the weekend preview, football season just got even better. Barstool is bringing you the game of the week every single week through the end of the regular season. Here's the deal. Every Friday, we'll announce a game of the week from a Sunday slate of games. When the game of the week drops, all you have to do is share a bet slip on the game with the hashtag BarstoolGOTW through X or email, and you'll be entered for a shot to win one of$5 ,000 bonus bets.

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2:24:09They're an automatic side. Yeah. Wings have become table bread for us in this office. We toss almost dessert. Like I usually have dessert wings. I'll eat whatever it is like a pizza burger and I'll top it off. Yeah. There's always room for wings. There's a couple of weeks here. All right. We're going to look at the wing menu. So we're obviously taping this on Tuesday morning. So we have no idea about some of the injury reports. Lines might move. We're going to lock in our best bets. but we're going to rip through the preview, and we also have Jerry's Fantasy Minute, and we'll give you a touchdown parlay, and then we'll send you off for Week 13 in Thanksgiving and all the football and feast week that you can have.

2:24:46So let's start with 49ers at Cleveland Browns. Browns are plus six, over-unders 39.5. I like the Browns. Shadus. Shadur. Shadur. I mean, the Niners are coming off back-to-back wins for the first time since Week 3. Since then, they've just alternated every weekend. They won two in a row, short week. You got to roll with Shador. And Kevin Stefanski, he tried to do the thing where he's like, I don't want to name a starting quarterback. We all knew that it was going to be Shador because you can't go away from the hot hand if you're the Browns. I have a question. Is Kevin Stefanski racist for not giving Shador Sanders a game ball and instead giving it to Miles Garrett?

2:25:28Yes. That's a real thing that's being asked. Yeah, it is. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Miles Garrett. What are you guys talking about in there? Give it to him. That's not why people are mad. Oh, why are they mad? He just, they're saying Kevin Stefanski just glanced over the fact that Shador was the first starter since 1999 to win them a game. That's why people are mad. They didn't care about the game ball. Oh, they didn't care about the game ball. What do you mean he glazed over it? He was just like, oh, Shador had a game. That was it. I mean, he did have a game. It was a pretty normal game. It wasn't like he lit the world on fire.

2:26:00That's the longest touchdown pass from a rookie quarterback this year. really that's true the the 66 yard bomb dottington bones that's the main discourse online that's got it yeah you guys can i i you guys can speak up anytime you want i mean the last time this happened was it was 30 years ago so i maybe he should have made a slightly bigger deal maybe not the game ball maybe like his game his game whistle did he make a big deal when dylan gabriel won his first game That would be the question. He didn't get Dylan Gamer with the knock of the game ball. What? He didn't win the first one. It's true.

2:26:36That's a fact. Either way, this Shador discourse is very funny and ridiculous, and I can't get enough of it. It's perfect. He's the perfect take machine. Listen, Miles Garrett is playing as good as anybody else in the NFL right now. I kind of like the Browns, too. Short week for the 49ers. Browns defense is legit I I like them I like Cleveland what can I say Yeah I also have in my head The year that the Browns went there remember the or sorry the Niners When they look like the best team in football and they went to the Browns the Browns won out right The grapple yeah there was that one There was also the Jake Moody game From two years ago That might have been the one I found a tweet That might have been the same one Alright give it to us first clip But you read it.

2:27:30Okay, first clip is from Brown's win versus Miami. Gabriel's first win. Stefanski doesn't give a game ball or even mention Gabriel at all. Second video is from Rastore's win versus Raiders. Shador's first start and win. It's a very brief mention, but he does give props to Shador. So myth busted. How are people this upset about a post-game speech? So I've been thinking about the whole Shador discourse because Shador got a lot of fans out of nowhere when he got drafted. He was a little bit polarizing in Colorado, for sure. I'll give you that. A little bit? No, he was. He was, but I'm saying like there became, I'd never seen this many Shador stans as I had since the point that he's been drafted.

2:28:10He's provocative. He's provocative. I think that a lot of it's coming from foreign actors. Check the location on X for a lot of the people that are stirring up the Shador discourse. Yeah. The ones that are like die hard. Jocena Anderson. Is she real? I don't know. A lot of India. Bangladesh checking in on the Shador takes. It might be. Myanmar. Yeah. That's just a thought that I had. Jocena obviously has her reasons for supporting Shador. I think she's probably very close to Dion, who's provided her with some information in the past. She's trying to keep the sources happy, that whole thing. I don't understand Why you would have a very strong opinion One way or the other about Shador Given his play But I'm glad that people do For a first start he looked Okay, pushed the ball downfield here and there Which they weren't able to do with Dylan Gabriel So yeah, I'm buying a little Shador stock I'm buying a little So in a perfect world for the Browns Like imagine he goes out there against the Niners He's got three touchdowns 325 yards 70 % completion rate Are the Browns already thinking about how much they could get for a trade for him?

2:29:19Or are the Browns actually going to see that performance and be like Let's roll with Shador next year Yeah, I mean, I think Shador might be the future He is him I would say that a rational coach and a rational organization would do that The Browns, though, who knows what they're thinking Yeah, the Browns, so We'll see how Brock Purdy looks After a shaky game on Monday Night Football Against a really good defense in Cleveland Yeah, I think Cleveland – I'm high on the Niners, but I think Cleveland can stick around in this game in this number. The Browns have won five of seven against the Niners.

2:29:51Whoa. That's got to be up there like towards the top of any record. Yeah. It's any team for the Browns, right? Yeah. Okay, next game. Titans, six-and-a-half point underdogs over under 42-and-a-half. What game, by the way, is going to be on main TV? Have we thought about that? It's not – you have – when you have the teams that are playing on Thanksgiving, and Black Friday, we're left with Texans Colts. Yeah, I guess Texans Colts would probably be the number one game, right? There's some yuck. There's some yucky games. But you know what? Those are usually the Sundays that have the craziest shit happen.

2:30:31Texans Colts is in the running. Cardinals, Bucs, nah. Rams, Panthers. It's definitely Texans Colts. Texans Colts. Texan Colts is main TV. You know what it is? I'm looking at it right now. It's the fact that the entire AFC South is playing in that same exact window. Yeah. They're playing each other. If three teams in the same division control their own destiny, does any team really control their own destiny? That's a good question. I don't know. I do think that we're running out of time on the Titans season. They might be out of it on the AFC South. Right, the Titans, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I know you weren't talking about the Titans.

2:31:06Titans, I'd say, yeah, you never know. Yeah. this game can the Jaguars stay they have to win this game this is a must win this is where playing bad teams become must wins down the stretch Trevor Lawrence I don't know I don't know that's my take on Trevor Lawrence let it rip so the Jaguars did the thing last week where they it's like a new strategy that you see more and more coaches do the Cowboys did it the Dolphins did it against the Commanders you go for it on fourth down when you're up by three because you're trying to pin the other team deep so I tried to think of a way to articulate why that's the smartest thing to do because I found myself agreeing with the coaches that do that even though people are like what the fuck are you doing why are you going for it on fourth down kick a field goal make them score a touchdown to beat you it's because of the field position it's entirely because even if you make the field goal you're up six points you still give the other team about give or take 30 yards yep worth a field position on the kickoff which is worth a whole lot in those end of game scenarios yeah so like yeah if you if you go for it and score a touchdown that's awesome you're probably going to win the game if you go for it and you don't make it they've got the ball on like the three yard line alternatively this is why at the end of a half i'm okay with kicking a field goal yeah because you don't get the benefit of putting them in a bad field position spot you don't get that benefit um i'm listen trevor lawrence i don't think he's i don't think he's like a top tier quarterback but i think that liam cohen's got him doing something right even though he stunk last week at times and threw some real dumbass picks i still i stand by my take that when trevor lawrence is letting it rip and he's doing wild shit and feeling comfortable enough to the point where he's just sometimes throwing stupid interceptions confidently, I think the upside of Trevor Lawrence in that situation is worth the downside to him.

2:33:03Here's a weird one for Trevor Lawrence. When he has been tied in a game or trailing in a game, he's 11 touchdowns, two interceptions. When he's leading in a game, he's three touchdowns, nine interceptions. Maybe Trevor Lawrence is just too human because I think like that when one of my teams is winning a game in my head, I'm like, this will last forever. We're going to win this game. Yeah. And so what does it matter if I throw it everywhere? So maybe he's just too human. So is that... When they're leading, he's throwing the majority of his interceptions. I thought it was the opposite for Trevor.

2:33:39Yeah. No, he's... When leading... I mean, think about it on... He threw three on Sunday. I think they were leading in all of those. Yeah. So he just gets... When things are going well, they're going too well for Trevor. Yeah. And he's just like, fuck it. I'm going to get back to even. I'm going to get back to neutral. Things are going well for the Jaguars right now. If you look at the big picture, if you look at the record, and you can't, if you're a Jaguars fan, you can't dissect, how did we get these wins or these actual wins? You just got to focus on the record and the number of wins that you have.

2:34:08It's the first time, this would be the first time in 20 years for the Jaguars to win four times in November. Whoa. Pretty crazy, right? Whoa. They haven't had, let's see, they haven't had four wins in the calendar month around Thanksgiving since 2005. Whoa. Yeah. Okay. Jaguars. Do history. So just enjoy your November. Titans, by the way, lead the league in most scoreless halves this season with four. Who's second? Don't. This is bullshit. As soon as you started saying that, I was like, this is... It's a good question. I have no idea who it could be. I'm just talking about the Titans. We're talking about the Titans.

2:34:50No, you're not. You're not talking about the Titans. It's a trivia question. It's a trivia question. Why do you have your ink? Like, why do you have your necklace on the microphone? Chiefs is incorrect. It's got to be a bad team. So I'm going to say incorrect. Next game. The Browns. Jets. Incorrect, guys. Incorrect. We don't know ball. Nope. I haven't beat the fuck out of here. Oh, it's the Bears. It's the Eagles. No, it's probably the Commanders. Yeah, they have three scoreless halves this season. The Titans have four. The Raiders? No, it was the Eagles. That was probably early in the year, though.

2:35:23Yeah. Good point. Okay. Are you sure it's not the commanders? I'm sure. We're really bad. He's still scoring the halves. Oh, that's crazy. I got an unexpected stat in this game. We talked about how you can't name a receiver on the Titans. The booth couldn't figure out a receiver, and that's not a slam against the booth. They're a very anonymous bunch that they have out there. Who, the booth? Yeah, the booth. Did you know that their receiver slash returner, Chimera Dike, he is number one in the NFL in all-purpose yards? Oh. That's kind of wild, isn't it? Because of the punt return. Probably because of, yeah, kick returns.

2:36:04Yeah, he's had a couple. I would assume that if you're playing against the Titans, you're kicking off a lot. But still, good for them. Yeah. He's number one in the league. He actually has a chance to beat the all-time record for all-purpose yards. Kind of something that you would think that people would have mentioned at some point. That is crazy. Because Darren Sproles has the record. He said in 2011 when he was on the Saints, that included a bunch of punt returns. That included a lot of stuff. But Chimera Dike, just strictly through the incompetence of the Titans' defense and their offense putting other teams in good field position, he might end up setting the all-time record for all-purpose yards this season.

2:36:41That's crazy. Which would be wild, yeah. That is crazy. Okay, next game. Texans at Colts. This is our main TV game. Over under 44.5. Colts are 4.5 point favorites. The Texans are practicing on Thanksgiving. Do we like that, or do we think that's maybe, hey, D 'Amico, chill out? That might be a chill out, man. The offense should practice on Thanksgiving. He said, as I told our guys, I told them, hey, we can save that food for another day. This week, we're focused on the Colts. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. Hope you enjoy that time with your family. We will be working. They're going to have some shitty dry turkey.

2:37:16in the team cafeteria like you had at school on Thanksgiving? Like when it was like the Tuesday or Wednesday before. Hey, we're doing turkey too. Yep. It's going to be bad. Yeah, the offense should practice. The defense, give them the day off. The Colts, is this panic button if the Colts lose this game? Yeah, because it would be three out of four, I believe, because they lost to the Steelers and they went and beat the Falcons international, then lost to the Chiefs. Yeah, this would be, hey, what's going on here? I would say panic button, and I would say that because it would be a loss to the Texans and depending on what the Jaguars do this weekend like you're in a fight you're in a knife fight right now Colts act accordingly.

2:37:55You thought you were running away with it now you're in a fight. Yeah Daniel Jones by the way versus the Blitz weeks 1 through 8 he was ranked 2nd since week 9 20 seconds so that's not been good what do we think about CJ Stroud is he going to play I think you just got to ride the hot hand, Davis Mills. I think C.J. Stroud's going to play, but I would ride the hot hand. Mills look good. Mills is 3-0. You can't take a guy out who's 3-0. Soft benching? Come on. He's 3-0. They're soft benching Davis Mills. No, they're currently soft benching C.J. Stroud. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, it's been two and a half weeks.

2:38:37What did he say? Texans coach expects Stroud to come back. Okay. Okay. So, we'll see CJ Stroud. I kind of like the Colts in this game. If I was CJ, I'd be like, yeah, I'm not thinking straight. I'm having a very high sensitivity to lights. I'll just stay home on Thanksgiving with my family. Yeah, I'll skip practice. Yeah, the Colts, definitely considering the panic button. Shane Steichen is thinking about it. He's overthinking himself now. Oh, definitely. He's like, yeah, I very much regret not handing the ball off to Jonathan Taylor last week in the fourth quarter. He's been waking up in cold sweats thinking about that.

2:39:15Yeah, the plays that he wanted to call. Next game, Saints at Dolphins. Dolphins minus six over under 41 and a half. The Saints have signed Justin Tucker. Have they signed him fully? They know they brought him in. Justin Tucker, is he a saint? No. Justin Tucker is a saint. Would be a hilarious sentence if they didn't finish that sentence. Saints are working out veterans, so they worked him out. Have they signed him? We need to find out. I don't think so. Yeah, okay. They probably got to the references check. But by the time these people are listening, yes. Okay, so the Saints are replacing Blake Groupie, not with Justin Tucker, with Cade York.

2:39:54Okay, so they did a favor to Justin Tucker. This is like, yeah, Justin Tucker was like, can you just bring me in for a workout so that other teams see that you're kicking the tires on me, and then maybe I'll be more likely to get an opportunity this offseason. Why is Justin Tucker doing this? Also, why are the Saints doing this? Fair question on both sides. But, like, Justin Tucker, you've made a lot of money. Yeah. Go be anonymous, dude. Yeah. Live your life. He probably needs to get out of the house a little bit. You're still a kicker that most people would not recognize. If you're Justin Tucker, what's his career earnings?

2:40:29$51 million? Yeah. If I were Justin Tucker, I would move to San Diego. I'd live the rest of my life, and no one would know who I am. Yeah. I think it's just about him. It's a little tough around the house these days for Justin Tucker. He just wants to get a job. It'd probably be good if he was gainfully employed and got to go somewhere every day. But the Saints are just doing this to piss. I guess, are they doing it to piss off their fans, or are they just bringing him in and then saying, we're not signing him, give us credit? That's one way to look at it. It could also be the Saints like, hey, don't talk about our shitty season.

2:41:03Get mad at us for bringing Justin Tucker. The Dolphins are still alive. We've talked about it before, but the Dolphins have been playing decent football, and somehow they're playing consequential football. It's going to be a very, very long shot for the Dolphins to make the playoffs, but they've won three out of four. They have the Saints this week, the Jets, Steelers, and Bengals. so you could look up and the Dolphins could be there. I think it's still too far for them to climb, but they are playing decent football. Yep. This is your worst nightmare if you're a Dolphins fan. Yeah. Win just enough games to have an inconsequential draft pick.

2:41:45Yep. At least you'll have someone different taking the draft pick now. That's true. No more Chris Greer. Yeah. Falcons and Jets. Are you ready? Are you ready, memes? I'm ready. Plus two and a half over under 39 and a half. You think you're going to win this game? It's a possibility. Okay, anything's possible. Yeah, the Jets are in a spot where I just want the season to end. Yep. But they have a favorable schedule where you could see them winning a couple games. Can we pull up Tankathon again? Pull up Tankathon. Give us Tankathon. And this is one of those games. Yeah, this is definitely Kirk Cousins outside, cold.

2:42:22This is definitely one of those games. Big time one of those games. Jeff Ulbrich, revenge game. Wait, is that his revenge against you guys or your guys' revenge against him? His revenge. It could go both ways. Could go both ways. But his revenge. Oh, it'd be awesome if the Falcons played the Browns. Shador gets his revenge. Yeah. Against Jeff Ulbrich. Okay, right now the Jets are sitting with the fourth pick. I don't think – I'm going to say it. I don't think the Titans – the Titans might win one more game. I don't know if the Raiders can win another game. The Titans play the Saints. Okay. So one of those.

2:42:57That's the most valuable one. You're rooting for the Saints in that game? No, the Titans. Oh, you're rooting for the Titans. And then the Saints play the Jets the week after. Saints need to win that game. Okay. I'm trying to find the path to the first overall pick. Yeah, there's a path. Well, I mean, the Titans, if they get... Then wouldn't it be Titans and then Titans? Yeah, Titans beat Saints. Saints beat Jets. The Titans... Giants beat Patriots. The Titans being getting the number one pick would... They probably would trade it. Yeah, but they also have... Yeah, no, they probably would trade it.

2:43:30You just can't have the Saints or the Raiders get the number one overall pick because they're going to take quarterbacks. Correct. So that's why we need to keep losing. There's also the Raiders play the Giants, so that'll move the Giants out. Got it. You just have to have the same record with the Raiders and Titans because the Jet schedule is so easy that it bumps them up before everybody else. Yeah, but if the Titans do get the number one overall pick, Like, you have enough draft ammo where you can move up, right? You do, but you also need those picks. You need the ammo. You need the ammo. Keep your powder dry.

2:44:06Yeah. Need the ammo. Yeah, you need all the good players you can get. Give me a roadmap to win against the Falcons this weekend. What does it look like? A couple Kirk Cousins interceptions. I see that. And? Nick Folk. Four field goals. We closed the door. You can hear people talking. That was closed. That was closed. They're just talking right outside the studio? Yeah. Tell them to just yell shut up. Tell them to shut up. Hey! Shut up! Stop it! Who's this? Someone's talking about salary cap? That sounded like Che to me. Wait, who's in the hall? Is that Che? I think it was Eddie. Who's talking salary cap?

2:44:47Who's talking salary cap? We may need to bring someone who's talking salary cap. I want to hear the question. White Sox Dave. Oh. All right, fine. Let's hear what he said. Salary cap. Is it baseball salary cap? Is it baseball salary cap, Dave? You have to come in and talk. You guys are talking baseball salary cap the day before Thanksgiving. I can't hear. Baseball salary cap? I would hear the argument to punt on a 2027 season if that meant. Are you talking about the White Sox? Are we talking football or baseball? We're talking baseball. Okay. Are you talking specifically about the White Sox? I am not talking about the White Sox at all.

2:45:24I would punt on a 2027 season as a baseball fan. I would hear the argument, too. I'm not saying I would personally. If that meant there was a healthy league from 2027 on. Wait, wait, wait. So we're not talking about next year in baseball. We're talking about year after. Two years, yeah. And we're having it right outside the BMT studio. I guess, yeah. There's a couple guests here. They asked me about it. Dave, do this. Redeem yourself right now. Pick a number. Six. What does that mean if I get it? You get memes anger Memes is going to kill you Is what's going to happen

2:46:0336 close Dave Alright thank you White Sox Dave Appreciate that Alright so that was our 2027 MLB season preview And that was our Saints Jets preview Wait no Jets Falcons sorry Memes you have to finish with your road map Nick Folk 4 field goals Okay. Two interceptions, four field goals. Jets get the win? Jets get the win. Okay. It's just depressing. There's nothing to look forward to. This is one of those. There are. I'm going to say. I'm going to go down the list. And I don't mean this in a bad way. Because, look. I'm going to bet on all these games. I'm going to watch all these games. But I think most fans would agree that if you look at Sunday's schedule, the Jets-Falcons game is depressing.

2:46:51the Jaguars Titans game is not depressing because Jaguars are still in it but it's could be a tough watch because I don't want to watch the Titans just period the Saints Dolphins game kind of depressing if it's Teddy Bridgewater at first Jacoby Brissett that's depressing there's some depressing games out there I saw somebody say like you have to view when you're completely eliminated and your season's meaningless at this point you have to view it as the preseason and guys are playing for Phil. Yeah, don't get emotionally attached to it. Just treat it as a preseason. See who's going to be on your team next year.

2:47:22And that's how you'll cope with the next six weeks. Do you think that the team is better without Quinn and Williams and Sauce Gardner? Right now, yeah. That's kind of crazy, isn't it? Yeah, I guess it's just all scheme. Like the last couple weeks. Do you think the Falcons wish they hadn't traded their first-round pick to the Rams? Yep. Yep. Do you think that's the worst draft decision they've made in the last five years?

2:47:49Nope. Yeah, because I was looking at it the other night. Kyle Pitts was taken fourth overall. Here are the names that were taken after Kyle Pitts. Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle, Panay Sewell, JC Horn, Patrick Sretan, Devontae Smith, Micah Parsons, and Rashawn Slater. Yep. Holy shit. This is... That's insane. Those are... The Falcons. Those are such good players. The COVID draft will go down in history. They constantly think that they're one piece away. You know what the craziest thing is? I bet some team's going to pick up Kyle Pitts, and he's going to be awesome. He's going to be sick. I wanted Kyle Pitts so bad in that draft.

2:48:29He looked so sick. You might get him. Howie might do his Howie thing. Howie. Howie did it again. Howie did it again. Howie. The 2021 drafts you're talking about memes. I can laugh about this draft because the Bears took Justin Fields. You took Zach Wilson. Yeah, all the quarterbacks are bad. And every guy after is incredible. Incredible. I think the two best guys didn't even play that college season. Mike Parsons opted out and Jamar Chase also opted out. It's crazy, man. There's some really good players. yeah so that's the Falcons they did the Falcons fans deserve better because their team is Arthur Blank sell the team maybe not do they like him I think he tries hard I think overall they're mad at him they're mad at him for the results but he did like lower concession prices yeah he's also in that category of there's certain owners that are try really hard but they're too dumb to do the right thing well you're trying Listen, Falcons fans, he turned down Bill Belichick.

2:49:38That's true. So just think about that. Take that whatever way you want. Also turned down Mike Rabel. Also turned down Jordan. That could have been yours. Package deal. Okay, Cardinals at Bucs. Bucs minus three over under 44 and a half. We don't know if Baker's going to play. He is not fully injured, right, Zach? They haven't ruled him out yet. Okay. Just his brain now. Zach, you excited to get back to Florida? Have you been back to Florida? We went in July for a couple days. That's right. But, yeah, this is the longest stretch I've been out of the state so far, so I am excited. What's your first stop when you get back to Florida?

2:50:12First stop's going to be I'll probably hit the circle K. Yeah. Hit the house. Yeah. Diet Coke. Pull a pop. That's about it. You just going to get Diet Coke hits different down there? I just like the fountain. I like the fountain. Oh, it's fountain. Yeah, yeah. I like fountain soda the best. And that's just so close to my home there that I just rip fountain soda every day. and where my apartment is currently, the fountain soda reach is limited. Yeah. Yeah. What's the temperature going to be in Florida? It's like mid-70s. Oh, man. 80s in the daytime highs. There's one day where it's kind of cold.

2:50:44And by kind of cold, I mean like 50. Are you going to go outside? I'll be outside. Outside but inside? I'll be. Like Jameis? Some of the days maybe, but I'm definitely going to try to get all the way outside. Yeah, that looks awesome. Look at that. It's going to be beautiful. You know what though? My parents just sent me photos by the pool like, hey, look at this beautiful day. It wouldn't feel like Thanksgiving. It's going to be so nice. I need a little cold. Liam Cohn, by the way, the Liam Cohn effect is real. Last year the Jags were 25th in yards per play or yards per game. The Bucs were third.

2:51:20This year the Jags are 16th and the Bucs are 20th. So they kind of flipped. It's real. The Bucs are in must win. have to win have to start winning because this is and and like abuka is kind of he had an incredible start to the season he hasn't really been the same guy since then you got to start winning yeah it kind of you kind of have to start if you're still worried about the panthers well yeah i mean i think you're a little bit worried about the panthers i guess the panthers play the rams so that will be you expect the rams to win that game you want to see the bucks looking better before the playoffs.

2:52:00Yeah, and you just, I mean, they're banged up. You got to start winning some games. Zach, if we're up to you, does Baker start this weekend? I don't know if you play him. I know he's going to really want to play, and we do need to win, but I guess I'm not in the train. I don't know how bad this brain is. I just know how bad it looked, how painful it looked when he went down after he went back in. And Baker's definitely going to lie about how much it hurts. He's going to be like, I'm ready to play, let's go. Yeah, it's like when you go to the doctor and they're like, how many beers do you have a week?

2:52:27and you're like, I have about six beers a week, and they multiply that by four. That's what you have to do to Baker on the smiley face pain tolerance chart. You've got to skip three guys and go to the right, and that's what he's really thinking. The Bucs' schedule, by the way, down the stretch is very easy. They play the Saints, the Falcons, the Panthers twice, and the Dolphins. So if they just split with the Panthers, you would think they're going to win the division. So it's not must-win yet. I take it back. But I do think that it's like you would rather see the Bucs looking good again. Got to start looking better.

2:52:59Got to start looking better or else. Or else. Or else. And then, yeah, there's nothing else. It's just I'm going to count down from three, and by the time I hit zero, you better be looking better. Or else. Hey, yeah, when I get, we're starting at five, four, three, two, one. All right, you're going right to bed. Lights out. Yep. Sorry, Bucs. You're going to bed. That's such a good trick for kids to just turn the lights out. I'm like, oh, my God. We're in trouble. Okay, next up we got Rams at Panthers. Panthers are 10.5-point underdogs. I feel like the Rams are going to win. I don't know if they're going to cover.

2:53:38Rams are the best team in the NFL. Rams cover against pretty much everybody. They cover against everyone, and they're the best team in the NFL. Yeah, I think that's a fair analysis of this game. Also, hot seat Aaron Rodgers. Devontae Adams said, I'm having the most fun playing that I've ever had. Aaron Rodgers and Derek Carr. That actually tracks. Who would you rather get a beer with? Matthew Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, or Derek Carr? That's Matthew Stafford. Yeah. That definitely tracks. Wait, who was the quarterback on the Jets when he was on the Jets? Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers. Who else? Who was the backup, though?

2:54:17Memes? Mike White? No. Zach Wilson. Flacco. No. Tyrod. Tyrod. I'm going to be with Tyrod. It would be okay. Yeah, he'd be good. But yeah, Matt Stafford by far. Devontae Adams has 12 touchdowns this year. Is that right? Jesus Christ. He played 11 games. All he does is catch them. That's crazy. And I think they're getting 2-2 back. Ooh. Yeah, the Rams are rolling. The Rams are rolling. And the Panthers, I don't trust them. No. I just don't. I don't think they can. I don't trust them at all. Yeah. On strength of schedule, the Panthers also have the third hardest remaining schedule. Okay. So the Bucs really don't have to worry.

2:54:58Yeah. Well. The Bucs can really just be. The third hardest, that was before Monday Night Football. Okay. So it's probably still pretty hard. Yeah. No, they played the last three games are Bucs, Seahawks, Bucs. Yeah. That's not easy. Now I'm rooting for the Panthers. I want that division to be interesting. I don't like runaways. I want to see Panthers in the circling graphic. Mm-hmm. The circling, sniffing around in the hunk graph. Last night they had the seat at the table, and then they had the people outside banging on the windows. I like that. The big boy table, and then the little kid's table.

2:55:30I like lurking. Yeah, lurking. Lurking's good. Lurking, sniffing around. Vikings at Seahawks, afternoon game. Seahawks are 10.5 point favorites, over-unders 41.5. Nine is in concussion protocol. Yep, so let's all pray for nine. Hope he's okay. It sounds serious. he developed concussion like symptoms after the game on the plane reported them immediately and you got you got to be healthy yeah he probably had a concussion when he threw those interceptions does have you guys seen has kurt warner said anything bad about any quarterback ever yeah i feel like there's been some guys that he hates because and i i like kurt warner he's been a guest on the show obviously he knows way more football than we do he is the savior for if you have a quarterback and you're looking for positive spin zones i know i've gone to kurt warner when i've needed that and i know viking strands are going to kurt warner right now when they need it it's just he's perfect he he's he's out there and when you when you watch your team lose in a bummer fashion you just gotta be like all right we'll wait till kurt warner talks about it and he might give us a different perspective he's doing that with nine saying And it's not all that bad.

2:56:38He's got to work on his fundamentals, his mechanics. But don't give up on nine is what he's saying. Yeah. I'm not going to give up on nine. No. I'm not. Can't do it. What if Max Brosmer is awesome? Right when you give up on nine, that's when you get nined. That's when you get you. What if Max Brosmer is awesome? I guess what – yeah. He's thrown like seven passes, I think. The Max Brosmer game is coming. No, it's going to be Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold is going to kick their ass. It's going to be Sam Darnold on the revenge tour. I have a prediction about this Viking season. Okay. Obviously, we're talking about nine, the concussion thing.

2:57:14Some are saying soft CTE. I don't know. At some point, if it keeps going this way for JJ, we're going to get some leaks from the Vikings about guys that didn't want to draft him in that building. Yep. We're going to get leaks from guys being like, this offseason I wanted to keep Daniel Jones. Yep. We're going to get leaks saying, I can't believe we let Sam Darnold out of the building last year. There's going to be somebody that's going to want to maybe not necessarily take credit for it, but make sure that the public knows that it was not him who made the decision on J.J. McCarthy. A huge draft mistake.

2:57:53What's the old saying? Victory has a thousand sons and failure is a widow? Failure is an orphan? Orphan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, failure has far too many fathers. No, that's the opposite. Victory, it's a great saying. Yeah. I'm looking it up. Failure is an orphan. Failure is an orphan. Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan. Yep. I like it. That's what's going to happen. I'm buying it on the Sam Darnold revenge game. Oh, for sure. Even though I think he probably is happy that Kevin O 'Connell took him in and made him a lot of money and got him a starting job in Seattle. He's living his best life.

2:58:31He's won the breakup. but still he's got to be a little bit like that was kind of shitty i'm good yeah i played really good last year until the last two games and then you you thought you had something better turns out i got something better the only thing about this is you know that brian floors is just going to blitz the fuck out of oh yeah like this is he's he's done in practice he probably wasn't allowed to blitz sam donald the way that he really wanted to in practice last year so this is going to be the the first time that he's going to get to be like see what i could have done to him last year Yep If you just let me coach What do we think Do we see J.J.

2:59:04McCarthy again this year Yep Okay I think you have to If you're the Vikings you have to No matter how bad it's been You gotta see what you got Okay What do you think Hank Yeah You see J.J. McCarthy You see nine Binding on nine Yeah The nine people have gone silent They have Greer was just posting That's not true Nine I mean they're doing They're doing like When you make fun of nine You're making fun of a new father Right. That's where we're at on the 90s. You're making fun of head injuries. You don't respect CTE. That's a good point. And a new dad. That's the only one. I think that's the only one I got.

2:59:42Yeah. A lot of that. I can't believe he's a father. He's a husband. He's a Christian. He's a leader. The only reason he played so bad was because he was playing with a concussion. Well, he got concussed with four minutes left in the game. No, Max is right. We don't know when. We don't know when. No, we don't know when. He literally got hit in the head and went straight to his smelling salts. That might have been earlier in the game, too. That might have been a secondary hit. So you're saying he got more than one concussion. Imagine just adding insult to injury. Nine's legacies. He gets smelling salts re-banned.

3:00:18Yeah. Wait, are you saying that maybe he got the concussion from the smelling salts? No, no. You can pull up the clip. Four minutes left. He gets absolutely flattened. and then he immediately takes out a smelling salt out of his pouch to wake back up. I could see 9 being the kind of guy that would take such a gnarly hit of smelling salts that he got himself a concussion from inhaling. One of the interceptions was after the hit. So that's minus one. And we don't know if that was the first concussion or not, that game that he had. Correct. Great point BFD. He could have had like six. Maybe even more than six.

3:00:54He could have been the most concussed. Nine. I think that we're not going to be super excited about Max Brosmer if I had to go out on a limb. He actually might be – we might look at him, and then everyone needs nine back. Okay. Steelers, Bills. This is a must win for both teams. Bills are plus 3.5 over under 47.5. Must win. Must win. I like the Bills. This is a Mike Tomlin special. They're underdogs at home against the Bills. But the offense in Pittsburgh is... Arthur Smith, if you're listening to the show, just hit the fast-forward button like four times. The Steelers have not completed a pass that traveled over 20 yards in the air in the entire month of November.

3:01:42Yeah. Four games, 0 for 11 on those passes, two interceptions. Yikes. That's bad. That's really bad. It's about as bad as it gets. That's really bad. And we thought that the offense would be different this year. This is the same old Steelers. This is the same old Steelers. And, yeah, if you saw their pass chart, they just did not throw anything in the middle of the field, which you would think you'd want to against the Bears, who have no linebackers. It was ugly. This is what they've been doing, Steelers. But maybe it's a Mike Tomlin spot. I mean, Josh Allen has to play better. I also think the Bills have to just run the ball more.

3:02:20I think they have to just take the pressure, especially with who knows what's going on with Keon Coleman. Who knows what's going on? Who else is out? Dalton Kincaid is still out. Is that right? I believe so. Or is maybe he coming back? Ever since Chris Long told us that they have the weapons because of the two tight ends, it's been – yeah. Oh, here we go. In games, Dalton Kincaid has played the full game this year. Bills are 6-1. They're 1-3 when he's missed or exited for an injury. Okay. So will he come back? Yeah, this is – I'd say it's probably must-win territory for the Steelers. And the Bills.

3:02:56Yeah. I think it's for the Bills as well. The Bills are in trouble if they lose this game. So if the Steelers lose to the Bills, I'd say it's very likely that they will not make the playoffs. If they beat the Bills, all they have to do is split with the Ravens, and then they have games against the Browns and Miami that they should win. And if they do that, they'll have 10 wins. They should make the playoffs. But it's very, very much dependent on being able to beat the Bills. Yeah. We're going to get a ton of McDermott, Tomlin, William, and Mary pictures. Yes. At least one. Oh, yeah. We're getting at least one.

3:03:32Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay. Let's see. What do we got? Next up. Oh, look. They're best friends. Yeah. Did you know this? They shared a dorm together. Holy shit. These guys. Raiders Chargers. I don't care. I mean, Chargers got over 41 and a half. I can't watch the Raiders anymore. Wait, Max. I put them in the power ranking tier this week of doing irreparable damage to the sport of football. Yeah. What's that, Max? What are you doing? Max, was the camera on you? No. When you did that, you did a Roman salute back there. No, Max did the Elon. I went like this. You did the Elon? That's not a Roman salute.

3:04:16No, the first one. Max, the first time you did it. I went like this. No, you were pointing. I'm going to do it with my left hand. It was 45 degrees up. I went like this. There's the motion. What's going on back there, Max? Good to go. That's good to go. Yeah, this game's good to go. This game's good to go. I like that. I actually like that a lot. This game is good to go. No, I don't care to think about the Raiders anymore until, like, yeah, further notice. Chip Kelly, he's gone. Okay. Their quarterback's coach, Greg Olson, is now their offensive coordinator, and this is his third stint being the offensive coordinator for the Raiders.

3:04:57And it's like every five years, this guy gets a job being the offensive coordinator for the Raiders, and then he has to give it up again, go back to being a quarterback's coach, and they bring him back. Good for that he's the ultimate interim OC for Vegas. The Chargers got to do something. You got to look alive, Chargers. I feel like I'm poking them with a stick. Look alive, Chargers. Look alive. Do something. Act like we're expecting you to act, Chargers. Do something. Anything. Anything that would be fun. Like, Gino doesn't even throw picks anymore. Throw the picks. Yeah. Harbaugh coming back off a bye.

3:05:32What does Harbaugh even do during a bye week when there's no football during the football season? He just watches football. He just gets better self-scouts. I think he probably could show up to the facility and just pretend that it's game day. Yeah. He definitely puts on the game day attire and the cleats on Sunday to keep himself in the habit. Yeah, definitely. He missed football. He goes to the office every day for sure. I'm going to expect big things from the Chargers, and then I'll be very disappointed if I don't get big things from them. Okay, last game, Sunday Night Football. Why are you on Sunday Night Football?

3:06:04That's a great question. I begged and pleaded to not have the commanders on Sunday Night Football. Commanders are 6.5-point underdogs, overrunners 43.5. I do think you could probably stick in this game a little. Yeah. In fact, I think it's probably not a bad bet to bet the commanders to score first. Yeah. Or at least commanders maybe first half money line, and then it all falls apart in the second half because that's kind of the MO for Broncos games. So you know that stat about Mariota, his last three games. Yep. He's had exactly 213 yards passing three weeks in a row. I believe that's the first time in the history of the NFL that that's ever happened.

3:06:43Can we bet it? Well, let me just add one more little stat on top of that one. The Broncos have given up 2 ,342 yards passing over 11 games. Oh, boy. That is an average of 213 yards per game. Wow. I'm going to guess that Mariota, the over-under, is going to be around 200. Wow. All the signs are telling me Mariota 213 again. Yeah. Make it happen. Yeah, this is going to be a bad game. We're going to lose. Jaden Daniels says he wants to come back and play. Jaden Daniels should not come back and play. I'm begging you, do not let him come back and play. Terry McLaurin, who knows if he's going to play football.

3:07:24Noah Brown, he never really played football. He played one game. He caught the Hail Mary. And then just nothing from him. The defense is, I think, the most expensive in the NFL. And they're like the worst in the NFL. Things are bad. Things are not looking good. But Tankathon. Tankathon. Tankathon. I'm just rooting for all the bad teams this weekend. I think the Broncos in this game beat the Commanders by a lot. Let's start. Broncos start. And I'm not saying I want them to do that. I'm saying if you want to start impressing me to the level. I was very impressed with their win against the Chiefs.

3:07:59Now it's can you not toy around with the bad teams. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Kick the shit out of the bad teams. Again, I think they will kick the shit out of us. but I think there's a better than 50-50 chance that the Commanders get out to an early lead. Yep. And then it's going to be downhill. Why is this game on Sunday Night Football? It sucks. Why? I don't know. I guess while we were looking at the slate. We don't have to stream it. There's nothing good on the slate. I guess Bill Steelers would have been good. Yeah. That's a consequence. I think Colts-Texas is going to be a good game. Colts-Texas is going to be a good game.

3:08:30I'm ready for that game. That's my favorite game on Sunday. Yeah. This game's good to go, though. Yeah, this game's good to go. Good to go. Good to go. I like that. We should start. We'll just have, whenever we get a questionable game, we'll take it to the booth. And Max would just be like, good to go. I also, I was like, that's a commercial from 2005, from what that's from. Hey, it's good to go. I would just prefer that. I don't want anybody to watch my team. Everyone close your eyes. I just want to be left alone. Listen, it's a long weekend. With my crummy team. It's a long weekend. You got Sunday scaries after Thanksgiving.

3:09:04Just go to sleep. What does that mean? I like that take. I love that take. I don't want anybody else. Nobody should watch this game. It honestly feels perverted that you would want to tune in and watch this. This is a personal matter that I have that I'm dealing with. I want to spend more time with my football team. Please respect my privacy. Just do not watch this game for your own good and also for my own. I don't need other people telling me things I already know about how bad my team is. I know there's nothing you could say that could hurt me about my crummy team. I just want to let me watch them and kind of be sad in peace.

3:09:39That'd be a good thing. This is the perfect game to skip because it's Sunday after Thanksgiving. Whether you're traveling or not, you've had a long week of eating, sitting on the couch, watching endless amounts of football. You get the Sunday scaries. You got to go back to work. Just pass. I do have a question for you about the Commanders roster, though. Should I want to re-sign Debo this offseason? I think you've got to just I think the commanders have to focus on getting significantly younger I would agree with that however Debo's look pretty good when he's had the ball it depends on the price but yeah I think the youth is all that matters for the commanders at this point like try to get as many draft picks as you can try to get as many young guys you need to build a roster of young guys Kyle Pitts maybe Kyle Pitts Zach Ertz he's a great football player even better human being.

3:10:33I might have gone that backwards. It's one or the other. He really, he's turned into Lockett later on in his career where he just catches the ball. Respect. He sits down. I don't blame him at all. It's like, yeah, I don't want to get hit by a linebacker either. Yeah. But, yeah, things are old. Things are old. Things are getting old. Okay, let's do our picks, and then we'll do the fantasy minute, and then we'll finish with the TD parlay. The standings are, I think I already did the standings earlier in the show. So we still need a punishment, boys. We got to get a punishment because if we get really close, then people are in last.

3:11:06They're not going to want to do a punishment. Outdoor boys. What are the outdoor boys? Film an outdoor boys video. That was my. That was my. Okay. I don't know if I brought that up on here on on air. We can bring back the drive. Drive to San Fran. Drive to the Super Bowl. We could bring back the drive. Eggnog week. Eggnog week. Go on. Yeah. You can only survive on eggnog for a week. No. I like eggnog. Eggnog week. That shit sounds good. That doesn't help my... Eggnog week is rocks. I'll live in the van for the seven days, like you said. Driving the van out would be sick because then we could do interviews out of it.

3:11:47Hank, you disagree? Can the van get out there? I think so. But I do not know. I can't say conclusively. Okay, who's up? Do you want to snake it back this way? Whoever, who was, Hank had a first pick. Hank picked first, you had last. So do you want to snake it back? Oh, so then I just go? Yeah. Okay. And then PFT and then Dak. Okay, and then next week we'll just go one down the line again. That makes sense. My first pick is going to be the, oh man, I hate these games. I really don't like these games. I will take

3:12:33Bill Steelers over 47 and a half No idea the weather Okay You're up PFT I am going to take

3:12:47Bucks Cardinals Under 44 and a half Okay Expecting Teddy Bridgewater Zach? I would like to take the Tampa Bay Buccaneers minus three in that game. Okay. I would like to take the New York Football Giants plus seven and a half. Okay. All right, football. Memes? I would like to take the Saints Dolphins over 41 and a half. Kind of like it. I will take the New England Patriots minus seven and a half. And?

3:13:23the Raiders Chargers under 41.5. Okay. Come back, memes. I'm going to take the Jaguars minus 6.5. I pick against the Titans every week. Titans cover every week. I think this is a week they don't cover. Okay. Chasing that one. Max? Has anyone taken Browns Niners under 38? Nope. Nope. I would be taking that. I got 37.5 right now. Oh, 37.5. Yep. Oh. Okay. I would like to take the over in the Viking Seahawks game at 41.5. Okay. Okay. I'm going to take the Tennessee Titans plus 6.5. I mean, they cover every week. Yeah, they do. I'm going to take one that I hate because this line makes no sense to me.

3:14:08I feel like this should be a field goal line. I'm going to take the Colts minus 4.5. I feel like that's a field goal line. Why is it 4.5? I don't know. They know something. Oh, we got to give away tickets to the Colts. Oh. On Sunday. You haven't done that. I haven't done that in forever. Well, they haven't played at home in a while. That can't be. Look at their schedule. Pull up the schedule now, Max. I'm pulling up the schedule. Pull it up. I'm pulling up. Okay, Davis Mills coming to town. Played at home two weeks ago. Yeah, two weeks ago. That's a really long time. We missed that one. No, they were in.

3:14:46Oh, yeah, yeah. They were in Germany. Yeah. Yeah, so how long has it been? Wait, vindication. It's been a month. It's been a month. It's been a month since they played at home. Texans in town. How about the Colts fan with the longest neck?

3:15:02Okay, I love that. Send pictures of yourself if you're a Colts fan or you just want to go to the game, you got a long neck. Tweet that at pardonmymeme. That's at pardonmymeme, and memes will select and say what that neck do. Gets you into the Colts game. Okay. TD Parlay, JSN. What do you guys got? Give us a pick. Hank, PFT. Give me J.K. Dobbins. Editor's note here. J.K. Dobbins is out for the year, so we are going to go with Lad McConkie here. Lad McConkie. Give me Bajon. Bajon. Wait, that's early. That's early. I'll do another one. You took J.K. Dobbins. give me give me James Cook okay let's do it all let's do it all in the afternoon alright let's wrap up great show everyone Jerry's Fantasy Minute which I gave him two minutes for Thanksgiving we thought he's a good friend of ours said hey you get two minutes did he use two minutes I don't know he could have used two minutes he could have not I said you have the ability to do two minutes oh look at it oh he did two minutes on the dot he had a wedding yeah why does he look so good Monday wedding He's a hot guy.

3:16:19This was Monday night. Okay. Some sort of gala. Go ahead. Start the music, memes. Start the music. I got two minutes this time. Two minutes. First of all, I want to thank, I want to start PFT and Big Cat for giving me two minutes for this special Thanksgiving episode of Fantasy Minute. I want to sit time zones. What the fuck is going on with Arizona? What time zone is that? Games are starting, man. Nobody knows what time it's starting. So we're going to sit time zones. We're going to start Tate McCray. Come on, PFT and Big Cat. Everybody knows who Tate McCray is. Gorgeous young lady. Not to be overshadowed by our queen, Tiffany Gomas.

3:17:05But Tate, show us your tootsies. We're going to start Don Quixote. Spoilers, Hank. Like, spoiler alert, Don Quixote gets injured in a duel and he dies in the end. Don Quixote dies. Bing bong. I know you don't like reading. It makes you sleepy. Sleepy, Hank. You read like a half a page and your eyes start to close. So, yeah, Don Quixote dies. Hey, we're going to start the Hank toy, which you can get at the Barstool Sports Store. It's so great. I heard Tiffany Gomez got one, but the Hank toy didn't blow it with her. You blew it. Bing bong. we're going to sit Pablo Torres we're going to sit him we're going to sit his ass in court that's what you get sorry the light just went out here we are going to we are going to start Lawrence Taylor yeah LT we're going to start him he was right there in Jordan's box we see you LT yeah and we're going to sit Zach Spelling come on dude coordinator coordinator just just ai it it's all right there all right everybody uh that's it i did it call 1-800 uh enjoy don's box have a good thing all right it's great thank you jerry i like the extended cut yeah he really emptied the clip on that one he spoiled don coyote for hank are you gonna are you gonna stop reading here no what page are you on 75 Okay Just keep chugging along Jerry is He played the hits Yeah This is why we give him a minute Okay boys Happy Thanksgiving to all Also for the record Jerry I knew exactly who Tate McRae was It was Big Cat that did I'm not familiar with her work Now I am It was one of those names I knew the name But I didn't know what she looked like or any of her songs I like the chicklets take on it, which was that she is poisoning Jack Hughes' mind.

3:19:14It's pretty good ahead of the Olympics. She's getting his brain. Okay, good show, boys. Everyone have a happy Thanksgiving. Travel safely, and we will be back on Monday. Numbers three. Good job. He's so proud of himself. It's got to the point where if memes gets the number three, that's like a little mini win for him. None of us guess either. Yeah. 32. Come on. 83. 25. I'm going to go with... 99 poke. 68. I'll go 71.

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