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12:02Big Cat:after like five minutes be like sorry but but text yeah didn't mean to do that sorry my apple watch was messing with me yeah uh you really think that Mike is gonna play I think I think gun to my head yes yeah but I think that there's there's a good chance that he doesn't well that's you just talked out of both sides you're no I'm saying it's over 50 okay that he plays so gun to your head yes

12:26PFT Commenter:gun to my head but really good chance he doesn't really good chance i die okay yeah yeah no i think he's gonna play i don't know if he'll play week one because i don't know if he'll be ready to go week one but i think he will deadlines you know force the uh actions here i guess the next

12:42Big Cat:phase in the uh holdout request trade is now notes app right that's like that's another one that you can go to if you're really upset yeah dark mode notes app dark mode notes app uh and

12:55PFT Commenter:Tommy DeVito got cut. Sad. It's a shame. I'm a paisan. I can't believe they did this to us. I hope they properly whacked him. Sad Italian hands. Yeah. That would have been nice. Let him put his shoes on. Yeah. They just brought him to an empty warehouse in East Rutherford.

13:11Big Cat:Yeah. I mean, it would be terrible if they made him get in the car and then they said that he was going to go to the hospital, but then they pulled off the side of the highway into a wooded area and then Silvio chased him down. Yeah. And then Christopher had to live with that guilt for the rest of his life. That would be a bad way to do it. And he packed his bags? And he packed his bags. Yeah.

13:28PFT Commenter:Yeah. But listen, sad to see Tommy DeVito get cut. We need a James on the roster. It's a fact. So what are you going to do? That's a fact. What are you going to do? Hey, we tried everything we could do. We haven't seen the last of Tommy DeVito. We did everything we could do. It's Robert De Niro on the phone. Yeah, there it is. That scene in Goodfellas. We're like, hey, we tried everything we could do. There's nothing we could do. Nothing we could do about it. We tried. We really tried. What do you mean? Tommy DeVito's dead.

13:55Big Cat:Will Tommy DeVito play a snap in the NFL this year?

13:58PFT Commenter:Yes. No. No. He'll be on a team, though. He feels like a Saints quarterback. Saints. Spencer Rattler. Yeah. Named week one starter. Is that one of the most depressing week one starter? Like, even Daniel Jones has a little cachet. We're like, hey, he had a good year. The New Orleans Saints announcing Spencer Rattler, I feel like they don't even want to announce anything. They probably said, hey, do we really have to? Can we just start week one and whoever plays plays and we don't have to actually put a graphic up here that they made where it's like, okay, he's starter. It almost felt like a threat.

14:37Big Cat:Yeah. Hey, just a heads up. I know a lot of you guys are going to be watching NFL on the first Sunday. Just so you know, Spencer Rattler might come across your screen at some point.

14:48PFT Commenter:Yeah. Hey, listen, NFL, if you're going to actually make us play week one, we're going to play Spencer Rattler. Just so you know. So cancel the season. Otherwise, it's Rattler time.

14:59Big Cat:They did wave Jake Hayner. Oh. Probably a very sassy wave. The zestiest.

15:04PFT Commenter:The zestiest of waves. Just remember, these guys have families. They do. Yeah. They do. Not Aaron Rodgers. Oh, he's got a wife. Oh, yeah. Good for him. He's got a wife. All right. Any other NFL news? We're getting closer and closer. We're nine days away as we're taping this. Eight days as you're listening to this. I'm excited. I'm very excited. I'm excited. Hank, question for you. Yes. Is Keegan Bradley really going to do this? And by this, I mean name himself a Ryder Cup.

15:36Big Cat:Are we not talking about the Travis Kelsey thing? Oh, what happened with him?

15:40PFT Commenter:He got engaged. You're talking about Kill a Trav? Kill a Trav. The fact that Taylor Swift had to tag Kill a Trav is such a fun. He has an AIM screen name as his Instagram.

15:51Big Cat:like he definitely regrets that oh yeah kill a trap every woman when they're when they're girl they dream of their engagement and tagging kill a trap if you're a dad and you were to say okay at at your daughter's birth your daughter will one day get engaged to a guy whose instagram handle is kill a trap kill a trap that's probably the worst case yeah right and that this is no disrespect travis kelsey no we like travis kelsey you guys are pft commenter and big cat yes okay Okay, but Kill a Trav. Kill a Trav goes hard. Does it? Yeah. No father wants their daughter to marry Travis. Not for an engagement photo.

16:26Big Cat:Kill a Trav? That's just a fact.

16:28PFT Commenter:That's the last name. Kill a Trav might go hard, but not when it's in like an English garden on your knee. Kill a Trav. I don't like my Kill a Travs getting engaged. Kill a Travs. Kill a Travs are guys that you can call up when they're 50 and be like, hey, Kill a Trav. You want to go to Vegas? He's like, yeah, you know I'm in.

16:45Big Cat:Kill a Trav sounds like the Chris Gaines version of Machine Gun Kelly. Yeah. So what was the caption? It was lame Oh I didn't like the caption The caption was Gym teacher and English teacher getting Yeah What was that? We could do better than that You guys are not You're a billionaire You guys aren't teachers Yeah You can't put on the teacher aesthetic No

17:05PFT Commenter:Teachers make$50 ,000 a year Your English teacher Wait you're scrolling too fast Your English teacher and your gym teacher are getting married Really? Mmhmm How about your billionaire song artist and your millionaire NFL star are getting married. I do love love. I love love. I'm happy for them. I'm happy for everybody who gets engaged. And I'm going to say, are you ready for this?

17:31PFT Commenter:I think they're officially a couple. I think it's real. Quote card. Quote card. Quote card. I'm going to say it. I've seen enough. I'm going to say it. I think Travis Kelsey, Kilotrav, and Taylor Swift are dating. I have enough evidence now.

17:49Big Cat:When Big Cat said he wanted to see P and V. No, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait. When he said he wanted to see P and V, he meant pretty little ring finger and very nice diamond. Yes, exactly. I feel like you guys aren't even happy for them. I love love, dude. Are you saying I don't love love? You guys sound like haters. No, I'm very happy. I just think - You guys just went on a hater spree. No, we didn't.

18:11PFT Commenter:We just said it was funny to get engaged to kill a trap. Kill a trap.

18:13Big Cat:Hank, did you think they went on a hater spree? I love love. Ah, fuck. yeah you're out on an island i'm very happy for him i'm happy for him i'm excited to see what the bachelor party looks like excited to see uh all the people that get that cast a lot of judgment

18:27PFT Commenter:on who's in the wedding party yep i'm gonna see i'm excited to see the wet wedding pictures when uh jason kelsey takes off his shirt i'm excited to see harrison buckler's toast at the wedding

18:39Big Cat:that's gonna be great it's beautiful it's the wedding the bachelor party will probably be hot Jason Kelsey's fine to take off his shirt temperature wise

18:49PFT Commenter:I was saying at the wedding he's going to go to a warm place

18:52Big Cat:that also probably will be warm and it's also fine to take off your shirt if you're warm Jason Kelsey's allowed to take off his shirt I agree I'm excited to see it

18:59PFT Commenter:he did in Buffalo that was cool Jason Kelsey has to be like an all time party starter on the dance floor you need one of those guys to get the shit going when everyone's like that weird moment in a wedding when alright everyone please take the dance floor we're going to do the father daughter dance and then everyone's in the mother-son dance, and then you stand there and they try to do shout, and you're like, I don't know. Jason Kelsey comes in, glass shatters, party's going. It's fucking awesome. Yeah, that sounds sick. Okay. That sounds like... Can you say we're not haters anymore? Because that was...

19:31PFT Commenter:No, no, that was good. That was good. That was a good scenario.

19:35Big Cat:I think that Jason Kelsey is going to drink over 20 beers on the day of the wedding. Oh, yeah. Over 20. I think he might drink over 20 before he even does the best man's beat. I hope so. Yeah. I wish we could. We're not going to see it. I would love to see the best man speech. Oh, you would love to see it. Max, you should slam 20 beers and then give the best man speech. Oh, we will. Yeah, yeah. We'll have that happen on the show. What do you mean? We'll have you do it. You should do the Jason Kelsey best man speech. Oh, as if. Yeah. Okay.

20:02PFT Commenter:We can do that.

20:03Big Cat:Okay. I like that. Yeah. I could do that for you.

20:06PFT Commenter:You can cosplay as Jason Kelsey for us and drink some beer. No way.

20:10Big Cat:That does sound like my MO. And then give a speech at a dinner. That also sounds like something I would do Yep

20:16PFT Commenter:What are we going to do What are we going to do Zach, Sydney Sweeney What are we going to do

20:25Big Cat:I think Sydney Sweeney and Hank could make a fantastic couple

20:27PFT Commenter:I think you and Sydney Sweeney That's exactly why You're not really interested in her She will die hearing this

20:36Big Cat:No she's probably great It's just like there's levels to dating and levels to life Her level and yeah you know what I mean You're way higher No, dude. Your stock is higher than mine. Yeah, and your whole... You're like a traditionally handsome guy, too, so it's like...

20:50PFT Commenter:You and Sidney Sweeney play great together.

20:52Big Cat:He's so nice.

20:54PFT Commenter:Zach, your whole, like, yeah, sex, who needs it, you know, I don't care, we're going to just video games, like, that's attractive to women.

21:02Big Cat:I think Max can do a great best man speech. What? For you? I was trying to pivot. I would do your best man speech.

21:10PFT Commenter:With Sidney Sweeney. I thought he was doing it as Jason Kelsey No no your best man speech when you marry Sydney Sweeney I don't think she's in the marriage Okay Hank what about Rihanna

21:20Big Cat:She's married with kids What about Cardi B I don't want to Complicate the Patriots I don't want to I don't want to get in the way of my guy Oh Stefan yeah

21:31PFT Commenter:Yeah okay what about

21:35Big Cat:Madison Beer taken

21:36PFT Commenter:Ah yeah shit I don't know any other name a woman celebrities anybody else know a woman

21:47Big Cat:Sabrina Carpenter

21:49PFT Commenter:Sabrina Carpenter yeah Sabrina Carpenter you love Carpenters

21:54Big Cat:you pick Jesus true we'll go Chapel Rhone nah probably not doja cat nah Lizzo who?

22:03PFT Commenter:Lizzo Lizzo yes oh okay alright good we got a yes we got a yes power couple. Bobby Althoff. I don't think that would move the needle enough. Is she still... What is she? Doing another podcast with Drake. She's going back to the well. Oh, okay.

22:23Big Cat:Hawk Tua girl? Is she around? She's somewhere.

22:29PFT Commenter:Okay.

22:30Big Cat:Probably be a lot of fun.

22:31PFT Commenter:Hawk Tua, yeah, I remember that. That was the biggest... That was the fastest... boom to bust. Yeah. It's good to know that we can still do the 15 minutes for real. Mm-hmm. You know? Yeah, we speak. We didn't have the 15 minutes for a while. It was like someone gets a little famous and they stick around. We did the 15 minutes with Hawk Tua, and then we got out.

22:53Big Cat:Yep. It's like a natural cycle now where if you get into that 15 minutes, you end at 15 minutes because you do a shit coin.

23:00PFT Commenter:Yeah, exactly. Then it spits you out.

23:02Big Cat:That's the natural circle of life. So, yeah, with Travis and Taylor, very happy for the two of them. I think that, call me a hater, I don't know what her music's going to be like, now that she's happy. Nope. Okay. Her music's great when she's upset.

23:19PFT Commenter:How am I going to navigate this next thing?

23:21Big Cat:Mm-hmm. Why are you shaking your head? Don't shake your head. I'm just pre-disavowing what you're about to say. Stop getting held hostage by the fucking Swifties. Nope.

23:32PFT Commenter:PFT's right. You're being a pussy right now, Max. I'm saying as a fan of her

23:36Big Cat:Someone has to be Team Kelsey right here

23:38PFT Commenter:I want love, I love love I want them to be happily married forever A divorce album would rock

23:49God, that was such a bad thing to say

23:51PFT Commenter:Why? No, I want them to say I don't want them to get divorced I do not want

23:55Big Cat:I think Swifties would agree with that

23:56PFT Commenter:Yeah, I do not want them to get divorced I'm saying if it happened There would be incredible music Right? Don't want it to happen you don't like her music currently fucking love her music dude you could say that if you love her heartbreak music maybe I don't think her heartbreak music is enough heartbreak so I

24:19Big Cat:you say that as a fan I'm just saying she's going to put out an album where she's happy and then that better be a fucking banger of an album because if it's not then the fans are going to be like I don't know if she still has her fastball I love listening to music when I'm in a good mood Probably great making music When you're in a good mood too I think that History has shown that some of the best art Comes out of people who are in really dark places T-Swift different Maybe I'm not too familiar with her music Oh what are you doing Max Is he going to sign a prenup Oh yeah What about last names Travis Swift Travis Swift What if Travis takes her last name Travis Swift would be funny Kill a Travis Swift Kill a Travis Swift I like that

25:09PFT Commenter:Travis Swift Yeah I'm happy for them Love is love It's great Congratulations to them To many many years of happy marriage Fair? Salud Salud Don't clip any of what we just talked about

25:25Big Cat:Or clip all of it It might not be clipped by us but it'll be clipped and you and you know and you know it who are you right now max i don't know

25:35PFT Commenter:you're supposed to be one of our guys i've been watching all the breakdowns of the easter eggs

25:38Big Cat:from the the podcast that you did yeah i'm kind of obsessed with the easter eggs now just do just how how brain dead some of the people are that are just they're trying to like connect dots that are on the other side of the planet correct each other because they're like oh i figured this thing out my own easter egg she keeps saying the word the number 47 hats 47 brand hat right now our current president oh is number 47 our current president is also known as what the man the commander in and chief chief commander in chief super bowl

26:18PFT Commenter:think about it Donald Trump is going to officiate their wedding? yes imagine the internet would blow up root for that Donald Trump officiates their wedding, Shador Sanders is the ring bearer who else? who else can we throw in there? the Rizzler the Rizzler is the best man this is pretty good that checks all the boxes Yeah, yeah. Usher Jared from Subway. Like that. He's going to be out of jail soon, which is kind of crazy. DJ. We don't talk about that enough.

26:53Big Cat:Lead singer of the wedding band, Mincy. Oh. Just Lane Maxwell.

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28:57Big Cat:My hot seat is Burning Man attendees. Oh. Burning Man Music Festival in the desert. There's been 50 mile an hour winds in the middle of the desert. flash flood storm warnings. There's like a helicopter aerial view. It looked like traffic was infinity miles long. Infinity? Absolute chaos. I don't know if you guys saw this, the orgy tent. Oh.

29:25PFT Commenter:Okay.

29:27Big Cat:I'm trying to get the exact word for it.

29:29PFT Commenter:What's the orgy tent?

29:30Big Cat:It was a setup at Burning Man. And there was orgies? The wind knocked it down. You can't have an orgy in the wind? The wind knocked down the orgy tent. You can still have the orgy. I guess, but in the desert and the wind.

29:48PFT Commenter:You gotta be able to play in the elements. Can't you just have the orgy underneath the tent?

29:53Big Cat:Well, no, there is no tent.

29:54PFT Commenter:Yeah, but it's just having an orgy underneath the blankets. Right?

29:59Big Cat:But this would just be out in the wild.

30:01PFT Commenter:But there'd be blankets, the tent. Burning Man, I feel like I'd never hear anything except for long traffic.

30:09Big Cat:Orgy dome, sorry. Oh, now that's

30:12PFT Commenter:totally different. The orgy dome is a totally different thing. You can't lose the orgy dome. Some would say that a dome is a big part of an orgy. Toughest place to play is the orgy dome. Imagine the stadium pulse when you walk into the orgy

30:26Big Cat:dome with a four-inch cock. Is the orgy tent? Is that just UNLV's when the quarterback gets injured? Yeah. That's the orgy tent? Yes.

30:35PFT Commenter:Yeah, the orgy dome would be very, I would be very worried walking the Orgy Dome.

30:40Big Cat:Yeah, there's people out there, no service in the middle of storms, no Orgy Dome to even get to if you make it there.

30:45PFT Commenter:And that's probably a lot of, that's a big draw.

30:48Big Cat:Definitely.

30:48PFT Commenter:Is the Orgy Dome. Yeah, I mean, when you buy your Burning Man tickets, you buy a day past the Orgy Dome.

30:53Big Cat:Yeah. It's like going to Disney World, Space Mountain's closed, sorry. Mm-hmm. Okay, good hot seat. And then my cool throne is Rajon Rondo. Oh. So this source, I mean, I have no choice but to take it as just a complete fact. Frankie Vision tweeted, and obviously this makes it even more of a fact, the tweet was, top five NBA point guard of all time, Rajon Rondo playing flag football, making it look easy. He is the number one ranked flag football quarterback in the country right now. And then all the, like Legion Hoops, all the other basketball aggregators took that tweet from Frankie Vision. no idea what his flag football ranking history is but ran it as like a fact.

31:38Big Cat:So there's all the basketball aggregators being like Rajon Rondo is currently the number one ranked flag football quarterback in the nation right now. Oh, so I would like to see those rankings. I'm interested. I'm not saying he's wrong, but I want to see the math that goes into it.

31:52PFT Commenter:Yeah. I would also like to see those rankings. Yeah,

31:56Big Cat:shout out to Rajon Rondo.

31:57PFT Commenter:He might be the number one flag football player in the world.

32:00Big Cat:Future Olympian.

32:01PFT Commenter:Future Olympian. Rajon Rondo.

32:04Big Cat:Yeah, it's just funny. It was seeing, I saw it, you know, I follow the basketball aggregators, and they were all reporting it. I'm like, is he really ranked that high? And it was just Frankie Vision. Yeah. He's just dropping dimes. I like that. He was dropping, it looked like he was playing with kids.

32:19PFT Commenter:But was he dropping dimes? Yes. Oh, yeah. All right, PFT, your hot seat, cool to run.

32:24Big Cat:My hot seat is Carlos Alcaraz, because the US Open is happening right now. And Carlos Alcaraz debuted a new haircut Before the tournament Have you seen his hair? Yeah It's like completely shave bald Yeah He said he blamed his brother He said my brother misunderstood with the machine He cut it and the only way to fix it is to shave it off To be honest it's not that good It's not that bad I guess

32:50PFT Commenter:I actually I can understand this This has happened to me before

32:53Big Cat:Yeah the brother went no guard by accident Or went really short And you start it You start it and then you're like, well, my only way out of this is to cut all my hair.

33:01PFT Commenter:Yep. So I actually think it makes him look faster. It does. It makes him look like he might have had a mental breakdown. Because I think that's kind of like a sound like you just randomly shave your head out of nowhere. Yep. But oh, good for him.

33:14Big Cat:You're sweating. Hank, you did that. I mean, you didn't do it by accident, but this is this was your haircut.

33:19PFT Commenter:Yeah.

33:20Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. And you and you liked it. Yeah. I've kept my hair short since then.

33:24PFT Commenter:Yeah. He also has like, I mean, he's a muscular pro tennis player who's good looking. I think it's okay.

33:30Big Cat:Yeah, he'll be fine.

33:31PFT Commenter:Yeah.

33:31Big Cat:He'll be fine. Probably could afford a bar.

33:32PFT Commenter:When I did it, I just looked way fatter. I'd look bad. Oh, it's the worst.

33:38Big Cat:The worst. I like the fact that he has his brother cut his hair. Yeah. Good for him. That is cool. My cool throne is baseball staying relevant. Okay. So like two minutes after the Travis and Taylor news drop, baseball announced its schedule for next year. Which I love. Also, John Rothstein tweeted out, I think, like a Drake out of conference game. He has that one loaded. John Rothstein has an obscure basketball scheduling fact ready to drop at any moment just in case something big happens in national news. Always. Always. Ready to go. So, yeah, they announced what the schedule was and everybody was like, how could you put this out right now?

34:16Big Cat:Tell you what, if you are, and I'm not saying that we are, but if you are an anti-Taylor a swift person you should love baseball because you're busy commenting like who cares when other people post about it baseball is the one sport that does not care whatsoever yeah they actually

34:31PFT Commenter:almost intentionally try to find where they can like sneak it in yeah so baseball might be the sport for you yeah uh oh i'm looking right now nats come uh end of march that kind of stinks Yeah. And then Philly's coming in April. That kind of stinks. Not really summer weather. Okay. I'm looking at the schedule. We'll have to get in front of the schedule, see if we can get some friends to come through, right? Yeah, there's some good. It's crazy. The schedule is just crazy.

35:04Big Cat:I don't think we talked about it. MLB is doing a rivalry week next year. Yeah. And some of them make zero sense. Okay, so Pirates and Phillies. I guess Pennsylvania This is all Braves Red Sox

35:19PFT Commenter:That's the former They used to be

35:24Big Cat:The Boston Braves

35:27PFT Commenter:Okay yeah What else Guardians Reds Rockies and Diamondbacks Why are the Padres and Mariners Some of these are Yeah but Padres and Mariners That one's weird right

35:43Big Cat:Yeah. There's a name for the Padres versus Mariners. I'll look it up.

35:50PFT Commenter:Okay. Because I would think Padres-Dodgers would make more sense just out of recent history. We got the Angels at the Dodgers.

35:59Big Cat:Yeah, a lot of people are just saying they should call this Geography Week, not Rivalry Week. We got the Astros at the Texas Rangers. What's the name? It's the Eddie Vedder Cup.

36:09PFT Commenter:Oh, okay. That makes sense.

36:11Big Cat:The competition is named after Pearl Jam frontman, rock and roll legend, Eddie Vedder, who lived in both cities during his life and personally designed the trophy, which features a guitar. What a power move. The rivalry was formalized in March 2025. That is pretty cool. Wait. Oh, it's very new. They're really leaning into this Eddie Vedder cup thing. Yeah. Like Tigers, Blue Jays. Canada. Yeah.

36:33PFT Commenter:Close enough. Detroit and Toronto. But that's just because they're close doesn't mean they're right. Like, what does that mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's like five or six real rivalries here, and the rest are just like, yeah, I guess they're close. Yeah, Yankees, Mets, Cubs, White Sox. Yeah, I mean, yeah, this is weird. Okay, rivalry week. Good job, MLB. You got it. You got it.

36:58Big Cat:I guess Rays versus Marlins, that might happen in nature sometimes. Yeah.

37:02PFT Commenter:Giants, A's was a rivalry, but now Sacramento. Yeah. So that's kind of weird.

37:08Big Cat:Okay, so the MLB schedule's out. All right, Rockies and Diamondbacks, I think, because they both joined baseball at the same time. Yeah.

37:16PFT Commenter:Okay. All right, good job, MLB. Good job. All right, my hot seat is PFT or Washington Commanders. Oh, no, what happened? They released the price of beer at every NFL stadium, and the Washington Commanders are number one in the NFL. $16.49. Got to pay Terry. That's insane. That's where that money's going. That's an insane$16 for a beer.

37:39Big Cat:I saw that graphic. It's a sick stadium experience. Where do they pull that from? Are you going to let that just go? No, it's a bad stadium. You're not going to catch me defending the name. You're not going to catch me defending the stadium experience. You're not going to catch me defending the beer prices. I will not defend those.

37:56PFT Commenter:Bengals are cheapest$6.80. It's good for the Bengals. So this is from who? The internet. Okay. It works for me. and my cool throne is Keegan Bradley can we talk about Keegan Bradley he's on the hot seat he's on he's got the hottest seat going well no he personally is the cool throne because he's gonna get to play and captain you think he's going to uh would be the first time since 1963 uh when Arnold Palmer did it do you think he's going to it sucks for him because wait has he

38:26Big Cat:never played in a Ryder Cup he has played in the Ryder Cup okay played uh at Medina okay so he

38:33PFT Commenter:He obviously last, whatever it was, two years ago was snubbed. He's playing good enough to make the team, but he's also now the captain. Pick yourself.

38:42Big Cat:Do it. I want him to so bad. Do it. I hope he does. I hope he doesn't. People are saying the captain's already a lot of responsibility. It's going to be too much of a distraction. And it's like one of those things where probably the nice thing, the easy way out is to just be the captain. but he wants to play and he's playing well yeah i i actually think it's a good move and it's like when when he's in 20 years when he's looking back he's gonna wish he played properly yeah yeah think about it this way from a captain's perspective your job part of your job is to make your players comfortable right if he picks himself the entire focus is on him nobody else has any pressure it's all about what he does which if he's the kind of guy that can handle that pressure that's great And it's also good for everybody else that's on the team.

39:33Big Cat:I like it.

39:35PFT Commenter:You could be an all-time legend. If you win as the playing captain, you're an all-time legend. All-time. If you lose as a playing captain, I like it. Just go all in. It's the biggest gamble you could have because if he doesn't pick himself and he's not playing, like, oh, well, he tried to pick the best team. What are you going to do? It's like everyone will kind of forget that he was the captain. This is your legacy, Keegan. Your legacies, you can make your legacy. It might be better than winning a major. Yes, if he wins as a playing captain. A playing captain might be better than winning a major.

40:10PFT Commenter:Yep. That's a hot take, but I think I could see that being the truth. Yep. Because it hasn't happened since 1963. All right, Zach, finish us off. My hot seat, two quick hot seats if that's okay today.

40:26Big Cat:My hot seat is, first one is men and committed relationships, because I feel like if they're in that window of proposals, and there's Swifty fans across the nation, there might be a lot of strong-arming proposals coming up.

40:38PFT Commenter:Yeah, or like, yeah, proposing right after this is, Taylor Swift is kind of taking everyone's shot.

40:43Big Cat:Every woman's going to want to go out and find a podcast host to marry. That's what we're about to see. And another quick one is, Nate Shot's doing a hole-in-one challenge today. I don't think he's going to get it. I've got him in the hot seat, because I don't think they're going to hit the hole-in-one. Well, that's your guy. Shout out Nate Shot. It is. They've got like 45 minutes left to hit it. Oh. I want them to hit it, but it's timed. Yeah, eight hours. And where are they at? They haven't hit it yet, and I believe they've got like 40 to 45 minutes left. Do we know what course they're on? I do not know the specific course.

41:09Big Cat:It's in California. Okay. He can do it. He can do it. I think they can hit it, just the time is taken away. Yeah. And the seat's getting hotter. That's how time works.

41:16PFT Commenter:Mm-hmm.

41:17Big Cat:So many ticks.

41:18PFT Commenter:Yeah. Ticks right in your face. Okay.

41:21Big Cat:And a quick cool throne is Teddy Bridgewater. Kyle Trask being released has bumped Teddy Bridgewater to QB2 for the 10-day Buccaneers.

41:30PFT Commenter:Nice. That's not a bad QB2. I agree. Yeah. Teddy Bridgewater knows what he's doing. Love Teddy. That Kyle Trask, I think Stephen Shea at one point said Kyle Trask was the future.

41:40Big Cat:Well, didn't they ask Kyle Trask for input on who the next offensive coordinator was going to be for the Bucs? Yes, that's right. Right? Was he a part of that? That was reporting from Stephen Shea. From Stephen Shea that Brady, after he retired, they were like, well, we're going to consult with Kyle Trask on what he's going to bring in next. Right. Didn't really work out. All right. Good hot seat, cool. Would you rather have your daughter marry a Travis or a Kyle? That's a... Travis? Really? I think Travis is probably last. No disrespect to Travis Kelsey.

42:14PFT Commenter:I think Travis. Kyle's are a squirrely bunch. There's multiple cool Travises. There's a lot of cool Kyle's.

42:22Big Cat:Who are some other cool Travises? Travis Pastrana. Oh, yeah. Travis Parker. Travis Barker. But also, like, Travis Pastrana, Travis Barker, like, kind of extreme dudes. Yeah, but there's some cool Kyles.

42:35PFT Commenter:Bauer. Hendrix. Sloder. Oh, Kapoor. Chris Kyle.

42:42Big Cat:Lowry. Travises are significantly cooler than Kyles.

42:47PFT Commenter:Yeah, I think so. You're just simping hard. I mean, we just... Bro, hey, they're not going to fuck you, okay? Travis and Taylor are spoken for.

42:57Big Cat:I just like the Kelsey's. You should rename the booth the Orgy Tent. Orgy Dome.

43:03PFT Commenter:The Orgy Dome. Yeah, look at you guys. All right, let's get to our Mount Rushmore. Hank, can you grab me right there a Mountain Dew? Nothing says summer like camp, baseball, Mountain Dew, and nothing goes better with going to Barstool Camp and hang out with your friends than the refreshing citrusy kick of Mountain Dew. That sounded delicious. We were at Barstool Camp last week. It was so much fun. Shout out Mountain Dew. It was, I mean, the best time ever. It was the best time ever. I wish we could go back. It was swimming in the lake, the blob, softball, all of it. And it all goes with a refreshing citrusy kick.

43:50PFT Commenter:of Mountain Dew. So go get Mountain Dew today. We love Mountain Dew. Thank you to Mountain Dew, our wonderful sponsor. The new cans, OG cans, nostalgia in a can. The mountain is calling. Experience a refreshing citrus kick of Mountain Dew. Grab one today. Okay, Mount Rushmore time. We are doing the Mount Rushmore of things girls don't like about guys. The updated standings are myself and Zach, I think we've officially won. So we have 51 points. Max and memes are at 44. PFT and Hank are at 43. So a duel is very much still on the table. It very much is. Very much on the table. Very much.

44:35Big Cat:Max came in before we just started recording this, and he shook my hand and said, good luck. And you don't mean that. You don't mean good luck. I didn't know that we were anti-respect around here. We do not mean good luck. I didn't know that we were anti-respect. Yeah, we're truth. Good luck is like that's what you do before you go into competition with someone. No, but you don't mean it. That's a fake sportsmanship. All right. I thought I was being respectful. I'm sorry. Okay. I'm sorry for trying to show you respect. So you're not sorry. I'm sorry for trying to show you respect. No, you're not.

45:04Big Cat:Yes, I am. Do you accept as an apology? I genuinely apologize for trying to show you respect. It's a fake sorry. And if I were to accept it, that would be a fake acceptance. I don't know what else you want me to say. I just. hand up hand up you can accept it you just don't say it back yeah don't say it back okay i accept i accept the fact that you're you're sorry thank you for accepting my for lying about wishing me

45:26PFT Commenter:good thank you for accepting my apology okay that's that felt good you're not welcome the duel is

45:35PFT Commenter:all right so uh who's picking first here we're picking first all right and then zach and i and then pft and hank um let's have some fun boys this one uh this is a good topic yeah there's a good one mount rushmore things girls hate about guys this is a good one it's a strong topic not a lot to work with here yeah yeah i have some honorable mentions i i yeah we're gonna get the honorable mentions are just gonna get personal well so i i texted my wife because zach and i have won so it's like i could seek outside help and uh zach was there when i was getting uh the barrage of text back and I was just getting obliterated this morning.

46:13Big Cat:Yeah, hand up. I asked a few women this morning and they all seemed very much directed at me.

46:18PFT Commenter:Yeah. Listen, I'll do an honorable mention right now to just get us going. One of the honorable mentions that I had on the list was not going to physical therapy for their partially torn cap and saying they'll be fine. That one feels very direct. That's a good one. That's a good one. Very specific. I was like shit I haven't gone to physical therapy yet And I do complain about it When it hurts Okay You guys are up Go for it We're up Yep

46:52Big Cat:Wording is good

46:56Yeah

46:57Big Cat:We're going to go with a classic Forgetting to leave the toilet seat down

47:00PFT Commenter:Okay Okay Yeah Classic After we put our whole list together we had that on there as the first pick and it looks so benign compared to everything else

47:11Big Cat:I never really understood that one how much harder is it to just put the seat down than it is to lift the seat up I agree but that doesn't mean that it's not a fight it's just the same thing it's just a flick of the wrist some of these things that we're going to say we're not going to necessarily agree with but that's not the Rushmore We're not sorry for it. Yeah. Listen, why don't you just... I'm sick of women not leaving the seat up for me. Yeah.

47:41PFT Commenter:That's true. Right? Let's flip it. Let's flip the narrative. Zach, you want to go with number two off the rip? Because, I mean, that one is... I think we all have this complaint. I think she's a great pick. All right. Terrible at looking for stuff. I get it all the time. Whether it be in the fridge, whether you lose something, just, like, open your fucking eyes. Yep. I get that. Terrible at looking for... I will stand in front of the fridge and just be like, where is the ketchup? And you're like, open your fucking eyes. It's right in front of you.

48:09Big Cat:When they walk over and they're like, it's right here. And they laugh at you. Yeah. And they find it in half a second.

48:14PFT Commenter:Yeah. Hey, do you know where my wallet is? I don't know. You never leave it in the same place any single day. Yeah. I have like 17 places I leave my wallet and keys and it varies every day.

48:24Big Cat:My girlfriend just started buying me AirTags because I lose everything.

48:28PFT Commenter:Girls are really good at putting stuff back at the exact same spot every single time.

48:32Big Cat:Did I ever tell you when I broke my foot, I thought I lost my wallet and it was directly underneath of my nights. Like as easy, like the first spot that you should look is where it was. And I found it like two months later. Yeah. I love that your girlfriend has you microchipped. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

48:49PFT Commenter:The remote is a big one for me too. I lose the remote all the time and it's always on my side of the bed. Like it's always like you had it last And then you lost it and then I'm like Where is it you must have taken it Okay PFT and Hank Hank Not being able to dunk Your ball I got the ball

49:12Big Cat:Okay which one you want to go with I like you here I think be free How about that one That would be a great one

49:22PFT Commenter:I'm not saying that I trust you

49:24Big Cat:Okay, all right, first pick. We're going to throw a fastball right in the middle here. Snoring. Okay. Yep. That's a good pick. Loud snores. That's a good pick. Good pick.

49:33PFT Commenter:Yep. I get the combo of snoring and also moving too much in my sleep.

49:38Big Cat:Snoring, farting in your sleep, jiggly leg. Okay. I think the one at the top of the list is a second-round steal. At the very top of the list? Yeah. Our sports obsessions. Yeah. Whether it be your fantasy team, whether it be your football team, your college team, sometimes they just don't understand why we dedicate every free second of our lives to something that is so utterly inconsequential to them.

50:07PFT Commenter:We had it phrased a little different, but we had that. It's basically the sports bleeding into real life. Like your team losing and having it affect your actual emotions in life.

50:17Big Cat:And explaining like our job is sports adjacent and it's like, oh, the offseason. It's like, well, you're - Our job is sports adjacent. There's more sports on? Well, no, I'm like, oh, it's quieter after football season. It's like, well, there's still, yeah, NHL playoffs, NBA playoffs. It's like there's always sports on.

50:34PFT Commenter:Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, Zach, we're up. I actually added one, Zach, that I think is a good one that the girls do not like about guys. I'll just rip it. Not going to the doctor. Just simply thinking that you can solve everything by WebMD. there's a reason why women live significantly longer than men and it's pretty much all traced

50:56Big Cat:back to not going to the doctor yeah when you go on when you have something you're not sure what it is you log on to web md and then guys we look it up until we reach a point on the internet where it says you might have cancer and we just close web md and then we just get upset because we think maybe there's a chance deep down that we might have cancer right and that is a medical treatment

51:14PFT Commenter:yeah i'm any malady i remember there's a couple years ago my wife i was i asked her like something like oh what's the plan this afternoon like should i pick up the kids she's like oh i have a a doctor's appointment i was like oh my god is everything all right she's like yeah we go to the doctor once a year i was like what i'm getting a checkup really that's i did that last decade i'm good yeah the doctor for us is it's not even the olympics because i wouldn't say i go every four years but it's uh it's it's i i finally got a physical last year for the first time in like 15 years so that felt good i just had an idea there is like a sense of like accomplishment

51:52Big Cat:though when you come back and you're and you feel like you deserve like a gold star and it's like i got a physical today i'm i'm a good boy that lasts until you get the results of your test back and then you're like oh fuck what if what if they made a doctor for men

52:07PFT Commenter:like a bar yeah and they got tvs yeah be good sport clips just but for doctors you don't even know you're at the doctor you just go to the bar and it's a doctor bartender and they ask you some

52:18Big Cat:questions and you just answer it well they have to get you drunk before they ask you all the

52:21PFT Commenter:questions that you answer them honestly yeah how many drinks do you have a week i remember when i went to how many drinks did you just have yeah one one i remember i went to the my physical like a year ago and uh i don't want to say that my wife was mad that i was had a clean bill of health but she thought it was a little bit of bullshit that i was like they're like yeah nothing's wrong with you like no cholesterol problem they're like she's like this is kind of bullshit you don't take care of yourself at all and you're fine uh okay you guys are up uh our next pick is not texting back or forgetting to text back yep that's a great good one good pick memes i was so i was

52:59Big Cat:gonna text my lady friend be i the last text i sent i forgot to answer do you send her memes

53:08PFT Commenter:uh no no no memes yeah no that's a good answer that's a good pick some girls they they not not

53:14Big Cat:all of them but there's like texting is like a hobby of theirs where like guys it's like a means to an end yeah like they love to text they love to text their friends conversations like you know back and forth all day where it's like guys just want question answer and then sometimes yeah i'm a big mental mental responder not physical responder and so when they're like why have you texted me back i'm like i did in my head yeah didn't type it out yeah yeah hours ago big time big time uh and this is just another generic one not necessarily personal to myself uh following random girls on instagram oh that's part of the job yep we gotta do it we gotta do it guys That's part of the job

53:57PFT Commenter:You gotta know what's going on Okay Zach What should we do here What do you think about seven Yeah Let's rip it Alright we would like to take Starting wars Starting every war Every war ever

54:11Big Cat:Every war that's ever happened At the hands of a man starting it

54:15PFT Commenter:It's Guilty as charged guys We started every war The Apatra No that's over a girl That's a guy starting a She started it She did She wasn't around That wouldn't have happened. Are you thinking, so you're saying Cleopatra can't even exist?

54:30Big Cat:Yeah, if she didn't exist, the war wouldn't have happened. What about Helen of Troy? Yeah. The face that could launch a thousand ships. We started the majority, if not all, of the wars. We still don't know who wrote that Zimmerman telegram.

54:42PFT Commenter:True. True. Our pick is starting every war ever.

54:48Big Cat:That's a good pick.

54:49PFT Commenter:Yeah. Hand up. Guys like to fight. What are you going to do? Guys like to have border disputes.

54:58Big Cat:Guys going to battle.

54:59PFT Commenter:Yeah, guys going to battle. Just doing things. Quests. Quests. Quests with your boys. All right. You guys have your last two. All right.

55:12Big Cat:Any thoughts, Hank? The one at the bottom made me laugh pretty hard. Okay. And then whatever else you think. Okay, I'm going to go with losing presidential elections to us. Yeah. women hate that especially if they've been promised the office for the last 10 years oh and two yeah and like maybe their husband was president and they're like it's finally my turn and then they work their entire life and then some guy that does not have any background in being president comes in and then beats them it's very embarrassing they hate that shit it's fair i now i do think two two is a good choice too okay when we get too drunk okay yeah yeah yeah yeah we're sloppy drunk most fight yeah

55:56PFT Commenter:yeah but you're also fun when you're drunk well you're a good time your bros think

56:00Big Cat:yeah yeah your bros they do time women hate it when you get too drunk yeah let alone get too drunk when they're not with the bros yeah you come home too drunk how why

56:12PFT Commenter:uh zach you want to rip what do you think 15 maybe or 11 in. I think 15. I like 15. Yeah, yeah. All right. This one might be a little personal, but doing stupid competitions that get them injured. That may be a person. But it's also kind of because I think a lot of guys are in this situation where maybe stupid competitions also are like intramural sports when you're 35. Why are you still doing this? Why are you getting injured playing basketball or softball? Like, this is so stupid. Girls don't like it.

56:47Big Cat:Like this should not be a part of your life. Yeah, you should. You're electing to do this. You're electing to make my life more inconvenient because you can't drive.

56:55PFT Commenter:You shouldn't be out for six to eight months. Yeah. Because you wanted to relive the glory days.

57:01Big Cat:My brother just recently blew out his hamstring playing like pickup soccer. Yeah. And he's like, I don't know how I'm going to go to work this week. Yeah.

57:06PFT Commenter:It's like, this is really stupid. Yeah. I probably shouldn't be doing that.

57:09Big Cat:Yeah. I got a friend that just tore his Achilles playing pickup basketball. He's got three kids. Yeah. And now his wife is like, what did you do to me for the next year?

57:16PFT Commenter:Yeah. It's very selfish. Very selfish.

57:19Big Cat:This has been a nice camaraderie Mount Rushmore we've had here. This has been good. London.

57:24PFT Commenter:All right. Last pick.

57:25Big Cat:There's a lot of good picks still out on the board. We're just going to go with, you know, another classic. Ripping farts. Ripping too many farts is always going to be an issue.

57:38PFT Commenter:Okay. Yeah. No, it is. Because we just let it go. Guys are allowed to fart. Shitting with the door open. What do you think generally like the...

57:48Big Cat:There's like a 1-1 pick that's still on the board right now. Like how long do you think guys usually wait to start ripping farts in a relationship publicly? A date? Yeah. It didn't take too long for myself to be honest.

58:04PFT Commenter:What's the 1-1 that got left? Guys or slobs. Slobs, yeah. Just overall messiness. I was going to say there's one one that we actually proved to be true by doing this Mount Rushmore and never bringing it up. Just guys not being able to talk about their emotions. Yeah. Which we just proved we can't do. Because I know the girls do hate that. And rightfully so.

58:31Big Cat:Mansplaining was another one. Mansplaining's a big one. You ever been in a car that's going 90 miles an hour? Yeah. That's how fast I can throw a ball. Yeah, we were debating between mansplaining farts and being messy for our last pick, but I just wanted to talk about ripping farts. Yeah. We had just our hairy balls. Yeah. Women don't. Our balls are just gross. God bless women for dealing with their bodies, because the male form is, I don't even think women find it attractive. No. That part of the body. Unless they like a fur ball. Needy when sick. Yeah. I think that's everyone, though. I'm a bitch when I'm sick.

59:11Big Cat:Yeah, I think everyone's needy when sick. PFT, the one, the last one. The last one. We said, when we say a medical condition that we have is worse than childbirth.

59:22PFT Commenter:Yep. Yep, that's a good one. Yep. The kidney stone thing. Yep. Going to Hooters. Okay. That was Zach's pick. Road rage. Yeah, women don't get that. They hate road rage. They don't get that at all. They hate that you got to fucking defend your lane. I have a personal one.

59:37Big Cat:They fucking hate it.

59:38PFT Commenter:They don't understand. Bro, we got to defend this. You got to defend your house.

59:43Big Cat:Women hate our friends. A lot of times.

59:46PFT Commenter:Our idiot friends. Why are you hanging out with that guy? Getting into some niche subject and thinking they're experts. That's mansplaining. Mansplaining.

59:57Big Cat:Just our hobbies.

59:58PFT Commenter:This is kind of related to our last pick of the doing stupid competitions, but just thinking they're so close to being professional athletes.

1:00:06Big Cat:Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. our parlays parlays is good personal one for me big pissing on the side of the road if I have to piss I'm gonna

1:00:19PFT Commenter:I think it is jealousy

1:00:22Big Cat:but it's like the biggest fight for me every time cause I always have to piss and I'm like I can just go right here it's gonna be fine yeah how short the lines are for our bathrooms yep yeah in line with pissing our fashion choices i've never had a complaint yeah uh my wife said bad pick my wife said uh finding one outfit they like and then wearing the same thing over and over also watching a hundred documentaries on

1:00:49PFT Commenter:the same topic guilty as yeah uh definitely how how fast it takes us to get ready yeah like i'm

1:00:56Big Cat:gonna put on a shirt and then shorts and then you still have to be in the bathroom doing makeup yeah

1:01:01PFT Commenter:i think that's more of the opposite well no it's no they're jealous of like the fact that we can

1:01:05Big Cat:get ready and i get ready in four we're leaving at 10 30 i'm gonna get up at 10 10 yeah like what

1:01:11PFT Commenter:i can shower and get changed in i would say four and a half minutes yeah yeah and it's it's yeah that's a that's a problem all right do you guys want my uh very specific ones that i was given um so i already said the not going to physical therapy for their partially torn calf and saying they'll be fine these are all for my wife uh arguing over the correct doneness of a steak Yep. They do hate that. They don't care. Not hanging up wet towels.

1:01:36Big Cat:That could have been PFT submitted, too.

1:01:39PFT Commenter:Not hanging up wet towels. Not appreciating Taylor Swift. Not appreciating Taylor Swift. Again, these are very specific. That's a good one. That's a really good one. She just roasted me for more. Not appreciating Taylor Swift is very funny. Thinking they should own and operate an assault rifle. That's a conversation that's been going on in my house for a little bit now.

1:02:01Big Cat:it's not going well what is it tasers are here by the way yeah we got we all got tasers it just

1:02:07PFT Commenter:keeps going you have three little children you're we're not getting a fucking gun in the house i'm like but we gotta protect this this is a great vibes mount rushmore i thought this was the least contentious mount rushmore we've ever had uh and then the last one was pretending they don't hear

1:02:20Big Cat:their children in the middle of the night yeah i do yeah uh sweat i do that with the dog like the dog wakes up early and someone's got to go take the dog out. I didn't hear. They hate our general sweatiness. Yeah. They don't get it.

1:02:35PFT Commenter:Yeah. Caring more about dogs than people.

1:02:38Big Cat:Yeah.

1:02:38PFT Commenter:Thong flip flops.

1:02:40Big Cat:Ooh.

1:02:40PFT Commenter:That's a good one.

1:02:42Big Cat:Oh, when dudes wear them? Yeah. Using the good shampoo? When we ask them for feet pics. Women hate that for some reason. What was the color daddy thing that Tommy smokes about what he wore? Khakis? Khakis. Khakis.

1:02:57PFT Commenter:I think women don't love it, and this is obviously for consensual relationships. I don't think women love it when you honk their boobs. But I do.

1:03:09PFT Commenter:That's more of a vibe pick. I think that wasn't sent to me.

1:03:13Big Cat:Oh, we missed an easy one, too. Coming super fast.

1:03:18PFT Commenter:They kind of like that, though. Yeah. Shows how masculine. So hot. Not knowing how to buy groceries. that was a specific one for for me because i do struggle with that oh bringing home fruit or vegetables that are clearly not ripe yeah or just not reading any labels and just buying the wrong

1:03:36Big Cat:thing yeah this avocado won't be ripe for another 14 days oh did i accidentally buy soy milk my bad i didn't read it i just grabbed milk uh any others uh when we eat all the ice cream and then put it back in the freezer and there's just a tiny bit of ice cream left that's not really a serving size. Why did you save this? That's with everything. Pissing in the sink. Pissing in the sink is a good one.

1:04:02PFT Commenter:Leaving your shoes everywhere.

1:04:04Big Cat:Oh! I leave my shoes everywhere. I get smoked for that.

1:04:08PFT Commenter:Because I have piles of shoes in multiple spots in my house.

1:04:12Big Cat:Having too many hats.

1:04:13PFT Commenter:Way too many hats. Oh man, that's a good

1:04:16Big Cat:one. I have so many hats. Finishing a roll of toilet paper and not replacing it. Oh yeah, why would you? Yeah. Coming back from a trip and just leaving all of your bags right in front of the door.

1:04:25PFT Commenter:Yep. Also, coming back from a trip with your boys and having no update on any of their lives. I get that a lot because I just don't. Like, you know, when you're on a trip with your boys, you're not going to be like, girls go on a trip and they talk about their feelings and how their life's going and how work's going. Guys go on a trip. I could spend four days with my friends and never ask a question about their children or work.

1:04:50Big Cat:One time I was on a trip when I was, I want to say 27, 28, I get back from the trip and my girl was like, has so-and-so had their baby yet? And I said, I don't know. Yeah. And that was a bad conversation. That also just means that you only ask those questions to people you don't really like. Right. Like if it's like, I don't know what to say here, let me just fill in this generic question.

1:05:17PFT Commenter:I've been doing a little hack that people can take. At the end of trips, like the last day, I literally sit down with all my friends. I'm like, give me two facts. I'm just like, give me two things that I can just say. Like when she said, hey, how's this guy doing? I'm like, yeah, this, this, and this. And it looks great. Just give me those quick facts. It's a good icebreaker too. And you spend like four days with your boys and then you finally have a conversation for five minutes before you go to the airport.

1:05:42Big Cat:Yeah. Just really, really loosen it up. We also had our golf obsession. on here. That was mostly a Hank one. That's a big one.

1:05:49PFT Commenter:I think girls don't like that.

1:05:51Big Cat:I think they actually kind of like it. You're gone for five hours. They have free time all of themselves.

1:06:00PFT Commenter:Yeah, I don't know about that.

1:06:01Big Cat:I think it's tougher once the kids come into it. It's complicated for sure. Let men golf. Let men golf. Print the shirts. This was great. This was fun, boys.

1:06:16PFT Commenter:All right, so we'll see. So what is the – if you guys get first and PFT and Hank get last and it's over? Yep.

1:06:24Big Cat:Yep.

1:06:26PFT Commenter:So I really want a duel.

1:06:27Big Cat:I don't think that's going to happen.

1:06:29PFT Commenter:But good luck. AWLs deserve a duel.

1:06:33Big Cat:We do. A duel will be fun.

1:06:34PFT Commenter:A duel will be fun. A duel will be very fun.

1:06:36Big Cat:I hope that they're – I hope – actually. What? I'll say my thoughts on whether I want a duel next show.

1:06:42PFT Commenter:Oh, okay. Well, what does that mean? We can't wait for your thoughts.

1:06:45Big Cat:Because if you guys get first and we get third, then I will want to duel. If we get first.

1:06:52PFT Commenter:Wait, we can't have you guys tied after this one because then it'll be over.

1:06:56Big Cat:Yeah. Oh, yeah. So if we finish. Unless you guys.

1:07:00PFT Commenter:So we need there to be a one point or two point gap between you. Yeah. For there to be a potential for a duel on Friday. Not that I'm trying to telegraph how the voting should go.

1:07:11Big Cat:The duel next week. It's going to be so. It's impossible. It's impossible to rig.

1:07:17PFT Commenter:Wait, how could it be over? If you guys are tied, Friday's show, you can't get the same amount of points. True. So it would be over.

1:07:24Big Cat:It wouldn't be over. It would just be there. Or if we come in first and you come in third, then it's over.

1:07:28PFT Commenter:Yeah. It's over. Yeah. So it needs to be you guys are one point or two points separated.

1:07:34Big Cat:That would make a fun last Mount Rushmore if there was nothing on the line except for.

1:07:40PFT Commenter:No, we want a duel.

1:07:41Big Cat:You guys can't come in last.

1:07:42PFT Commenter:Yeah. No, they can. They can come in last if you guys come in second. You guys will be up by two points. You can come in last.

1:07:51Big Cat:No, it would just mean the only thing we have to avoid is last place for me and Hank, first place for Max. That's correct. Right. That's a doomsday scenario. Yeah, that means that. Well, for the listeners, the doomsday scenario is you guys come in first, we come in second because then there's no duel.

1:08:05PFT Commenter:Then you guys are tied.

1:08:06Big Cat:Then there's no duel. Yeah.

1:08:07PFT Commenter:Then there's no duel. So it can't be Max and memes in first and you guys in last or you guys being one ahead of them in this one. Yeah.

1:08:16Big Cat:Which this can't be rigged. No. We're just talking.

1:08:24PFT Commenter:The perfect voting would be you guys being one or two away from each other going into Friday.

1:08:31Big Cat:Yeah. Like if me and Hank came in first and then Max and memes came in last. That would be great. That would be a great result. That would be great. That would be awesome. All right. I don't like that result. You know what else would be a really good result? If we won't. No. Disagree. That would be good.

1:08:48PFT Commenter:Or if we come in first and they come in second. That would be fine. Or if you come in second and they come in third.

1:08:53Big Cat:Yep. Also would be great.

1:08:54PFT Commenter:Yeah. Okay.

1:08:56Big Cat:What if Max and Meem's coming first and we come in third? Then it's over. Then it's over. What if we come in first and they come in third?

1:09:02PFT Commenter:Then it's still alive. Yeah, very much still alive. Very much still alive. You guys would be up one.

1:09:07Big Cat:We're just talking through all the series. I was joking. I was joking. I was going to say. I was like, wait, did we just say both of those? No, I know. Good joke, Hank. You got us.

1:09:16PFT Commenter:You did get us.

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1:10:12PFT Commenter:okay we now welcome on a very very very special guest he is uh the winner of the tour championship in atlanta on sunday it is tommy fleetwood tommy congratulations congratulations uh you you you won you won one you won the big one uh how are you feeling has it set in yet because i think you know that the whole world was kind of rooting for you on Sunday uh yeah I don't it's it's kind of it hasn't it hasn't really I don't know um it uh it was such a cool day and I've probably replayed it over and over in my mind it was great getting home to the family um and kind of going through those feelings and emotions again but yeah I don't know I had uh the support for me was like ridiculous.

1:11:02I absolutely loved it. I, um, you know, there's been such a good buzz, like the last few times that I've got into contention, like it's been great. I've been playing so well and I've been getting there a lot, but there's been a really good, there's been a really cool buzz every time. Like I've got into contention recently and yeah, Sunday was very cool.

1:11:18Big Cat:Yeah. You had LeBron at home watching the golf, just tweeting about you nonstop, just hoping that you were going to win. That must've been pretty crazy. Uh, people started telling me afterwards cause those kinds of things you don't see. and um and people you know people were saying afterwards you know lebron's been tweeting caitlin clark tiger sent a nice message like all of that kind of stuff so it's like when you are playing you're so like consumed by what you're doing in that moment and like it's it's such a huge thing like when you know for myself or for whoever it is that's competing there but um yeah to hear all those things that was pretty pretty amazing yeah was there a moment on sunday where

1:11:56PFT Commenter:you let yourself be like you know what i'm gonna do this because you know you get up what was it three with two to play and we were watching and we're like i think this is gonna happen i think this is gonna happen was did you let yourself have that moment or were you just like no gotta stay locked in because we've been here before and it's been bad sometimes we've definitely been here before and it hasn't it hasn't always gone very well i um it's one of those things so i i um I really wanted to get past that 15th hole I hate that 15th hole yeah uh the angle of it I'd hit it I'd hit a terrible shot on Saturday and um as much as like you know I did a great job of staying present all day and and staying in the moment and like playing each hole as it comes but that was always creeping into my mind like that one hole and no matter I either sort of wanted to play well enough to build like a big lead at that point or like you know I still I was still gonna have to step up and hit a shot and I felt like so I got off that all I mean I made bogey but bogey was fine it wasn't a disaster and then you start to get a when you're playing you start to get a sense how things are going and nobody had really nobody had really caught up that was the thing like nobody actually this time that the biggest difference was nobody actually caught up with me and like kept going or went past me and I you know I didn't come back and around like especially after the 16th green I mean it was it was kind of again once again it felt like mine to lose but I didn't want to think about it and even I got to the last hole and we we were both of us had hit two shots we were just off the green and then there's um there's a person that announces you onto the 18th green and he kind of announced me and he didn't say that I was the winner but it sounded like he was announcing me as a winner I was like well hang on a minute just like let me like let me let me finish and I had such a big lead but you just um I just was like going into this deep mental cocoon that I just wanted to get done.

1:13:53Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. And things were looking pretty good for you most of the day on Sunday. There was a brief moment where Scotty looked like he was going to do a Scotty thing. And we saw him on the leaderboard climbing up. And I think the impending sense of doom started to wash over us just a little bit. We're like, Scotty's just about to go nuclear and hit like seven birdies in a row on the back nine and steal this thing away. Were you paying attention at all to where Scotty was on the leaderboard?

1:14:18a little bit um a little bit but not not loads uh because i i was kind of locked in on what i was doing i um vaguely had a score in my mind as well that i felt like if i got to uh that it was especially especially after patrick's start as well because like a lot depending on how patrick was doing i was playing with him we were on the same score at the start of the day he had a bit of a rough start so he was always kind of playing catch up but i no i you you do see it as much as you try not to look at leaderboards they're around and you do see them but i um was just sort of focusing on my thing i felt like i was i started to play well enough on the back nine where i felt like it was in my control still and yeah so i didn't pay that

1:14:59PFT Commenter:much attention yeah well we got to say from our perspective the podcast perspective we had a great time betting on tommy fleetwood because that was our first time backing you we got a random email on Sunday night. That was the first time. First time. A random email. Rob with two B's emailed the whole show and was like, hey, Tommy Fleetwood's going to win this Sunday. This weekend. This is not AI. And we all bet it 16-1. And I got to say, I don't know what everyone says about you not being able to finish. We're 1-0 with Tommy Fleetwood. This is easy. Yeah. Delivered. 1-0. 100 % record. That's what we're talking about.

1:15:37Big Cat:I'm going to start betting you more often, except I can't bet on you for the Ryder Cup. Now we have to turn our back. Yes. Have you thought about that? Like all of America, it felt like was behind you in this last tournament. And now we just got to go back to, you know, double birds, America. We hate your guts. Yeah. Well, you don't have to.

1:15:53PFT Commenter:No, we do. Hank might bet on you. Yeah, we absolutely do. We hate you. Yeah. We hope you choke. Well, that's really sweet of you guys. That's nice. Well, it's one of the, I think, I think it's the cool thing about the Ryder Cup. And I definitely, I will not be offended or upset by anything that anybody feels like they want to say or go support in their home team. Because that's how it should be. And I think that's one of the great things. We don't get to do that sort of thing either. Like we, in our sport, obviously you play so individually and you play all over the world. So it's not like you get like a home and away feeling in sort of that team environment.

1:16:34And I think that's one of the great things for us about the Ryder Cup. But if you're going to – I've been lucky to play at two home Ryder Cups and the support's unbelievable. And the home crowd definitely play a huge part in that home team vibe and the atmosphere and they help you. So, yeah, going into an away Ryder Cup. I think we're all excited about the opportunity. And, yeah, that's how it should be.

1:16:58PFT Commenter:Yeah. So have you noticed that your son has become a meme? Try him the hottest. PFT says it better than I do. Just trying me hardest. Yeah. I think on Sunday morning, I woke up in my house, and I just started repeating that to myself over and over. We were all trying me hardest. 300 times. My kids were like, what the hell? I'm just talking in an English accent. I mean, he's right. I mean, there's two things. There was actually last week in Atlanta, there turned out to be like this cult following that kept shouting at me, I'm just trying my hardest. They were like coming around. That was nice. But actually, I remember watching that video, and um i never realized how strong his accent was i just thought he had like a neutral voice but he just said he sounds just like i do just a bit higher pitch but um yeah he's uh it's it was a good message and i i swear we um like i didn't know i was going to get asked a question and we'd never spoke about anything ever and that was the answer he came out with which was the funniest

1:17:55Big Cat:thing yeah it seemed like he had had media training yeah this was a perfect answer to give to a reporter after a tough round and he's trying me hottest out there yeah and he's like great perspective on his part too he's like i'll go after it next year i'll attack it again we've got another opportunity for this it really did seem yeah yeah it's it seemed like he had had

1:18:14PFT Commenter:that training before it had to be in like a cool dad moment because like your kid like you said you didn't you didn't tell him what to say and then he has a good message you're like i kind of did a good job here because my kid is you know like that it's a really good message it's like There's a lot of cynicism in the sports world these days, and he's just trying me hottest. You're absolutely right. I think there is, actually. And there's a lot of – I mean, there's so much pressure put on people. Of course there is. But he was right. It was a great message. And I think we were all very – I mean, first of all, we found it very funny, but then we actually were like, oh, we're very proud here.

1:18:47He's given off a good message, and he said the right thing. Yeah.

1:18:49Big Cat:Have we worked on that shot for next year so that he's going to be able to go out there and learn from what he's done in the past? Yeah, I mean, first of all, the pressure is always on me to make the Masters. It's not about actually me competing. It's about, frankly, getting another shot at that green on the par three. So I've got to make sure I want to make the Masters. And he, yeah, he continues to put the work in. I don't want to tell him yet. I feel like he might be, he's probably another year away at least from reaching the green. But he loves it. He absolutely loves it. And, yeah, one of my favorite things to do is playing golf with him.

1:19:23He's great.

1:19:25PFT Commenter:That's so cool. So yeah. And in terms of the media, I want to give you credit because it, you always face the media after, you know, your guts get ripped out in some of these tournaments where you finished second. Um, was there ever a time that you were like, I really, really don't want to do this because I don't know how you did it. I don't know how you were able to put on the face that you put on, but all credit to you because I know that myself personally, I'd be like, fuck this. I'm not answering anything. Yeah. I mean, those, those moments um those moments stink because you've you know that you've lost or you've let it slip or someone's beat you and you've been so close and you and you kind of i mean i i would feel what everybody else feels like i do feel it i uh feel like i've let myself down or people down or i haven't you know i've let it go um you know i i hate i hate the word choke and stuff i mean and I would never, but the important thing is to not like turn away from it.

1:20:25And I did always say through it, I think it's really important to try and say the right things both, both inwardly and outwardly. And I felt like that was very important. And I do think in, in sport, like best thing in the world, doing every single interview possible after doing something like last week on Sunday. But you know, you don't get that without doing the rest of it either. And there's plenty of disappointments and I just felt like, yeah, I think you should. I think you should speak after the round, good or bad. I think that's kind of what people want to hear. And I also just used it as motivation because I felt like, again, say the right things to yourself and say the right things outwardly.

1:21:06So I used it like I had to go and speak and say the right things. And just by doing that um you know instead of what you you could sulk you could spend hours or days in like a bad place because you've you know what you've done or you know you've let yourself down but um just by doing that it's like said something good straight away so i kind of think it helped

1:21:29Big Cat:me as well yeah did you have moments where you thought yourself finishing in second is really good just a lot of money yeah you get a lot of money you're better than almost everybody else out there like that's a great result you're the second best golfer in the world on that given weekend objectively that's great you did an awesome job did you tell yourself that well it's a great result and um i i would i did tell myself that i told myself things i mean the overriding feeling is is upset or angry or disappointed because um you probably feel like you should have won like that's that's just how it is i mean there's times when i'll finish 15th or 20th and I'll feel great because I shot a 64 on Sunday so it doesn't really make sense in a way like you um you know you finish second had a great week but you you feel crappy about it so um but it was and and you have to again go back to all those times where I had to talk about it and I said there was there's there's always there's never any point in always just looking at the negatives and what you did wrong because I did so many things well there was times when I was leading the tournament after 71 holes or 70 holes or 69 holes it's a long time like and you've done so well and you beat everybody up to that point but you just let it slip but there's so much more good than bad um and and yeah I just think I never wanted to get in a negative spiral because I wanted to get there again and I was going to go in that position again Sunday I was leading by two with three to play or I was leading by three with four to play with tough holes coming up if you let things get to you at that point like it's not going to help is it so like all the things that i did before i felt like played a role in what happened on sunday as well right i've got a uh specific golf related question kind of a technical one you hit mini driver you have a mini driver in your bag when do you decide like okay you know what this is not the time for the big dog i'm gonna hit mini driver instead like what is a what does a mini driver do that a three wood doesn't do um i so i i ended up putting that mini driver and i think it was three years ago now at the masters um two years ago three years ago can't remember 2023 maybe and um i never really had a three wood that i loved like i always had this three wood that i felt like i wanted this like rocket launcher of a three wood that if it was a long par five i hit the fairway i could go for the green from 290 i would never like choose to hit a three would hit the fairway i would just hit a t down driver or something so then this mini driver came out put it in the bag and i was like oh my god this thing's unbelievable i can just swing it and hit it has this little tight draw um because actually people always people associate me with like hitting a good draw but my driver I feel like it's straight to not kind of if anything left or right like I don't like to draw my driver uh so having a club that then did that was really helpful and I don't know it was just I was so good with it and comfortable with it that I just took it out quite a lot and I would just hit it off a tee if I didn't quite feel right if it made sense um and then I actually tried a three wood again this year, just, just for the sake of trying it.

1:24:27I mean, we can, you know, we have that luxury on tour. Like you just feel like trying a club and you can try it. And I put this three wood down and I just looked at it. I was like, that's disgusting. Like it looks like, it looks like it should be a five wood, but it's got no loft in it. I can't hit this. And so maybe I think my three wood days might be gone.

1:24:44Big Cat:So is there a point, like hypothetically, if you're what, a 13 handicap, Hank, 13 handicap? if you're a 13 handicap for example is there any point in you having a mini driver or are you just bringing on a mini driver so that you can talk to your friends about how you have a mini driver that's always a point in having a mini driver

1:25:04PFT Commenter:yeah um your youtube channel is awesome uh love it love love seeing the behind the scenes stuff you also said that you're you're you're now trying to break 100 as a lefty um which kind of kind of dunking on all of all of us regular golfers it felt personal yeah like hey you haven't watched me play yet yeah so how is that going how is the lefty journey going where what are you scoring as a lefty now no i haven't actually played 18 holes on a on a course yet so like literally i promise the first time i play on a course whether it be nine holes or 18 holes i will be filming it and it will go on youtube so i haven't been on a course yet um there's a couple more videos coming out um i had a lesson left-handed which i i said i wanted like i haven't had a golf lesson i mean i have golf lessons all the time of course i do but like it's it's different to having one where i don't have a clue what i'm doing i mean i'm completely for everything that i know about golf give me a club the other way my mind goes blank and i can't i can't fix anything i can't figure it out like i can see what's happening but i can't change it so um it's all new to me and um like i haven't and again like people that uh don't you know people that play but then don't have the chance to play like i i consider playing right-handed golf my job and i haven't hit balls left-handed for a while now like i've been working every day for quite a while finishing the playoffs and finishing the year i had the open um so i am actually gonna um hit some balls actually uh soon left-handed so i'll get my left-handed clubs out again but all of it just feels like very real.

1:26:38I love the game of golf and this is like it's not starting afresh, but it kind of is. And I'm used to it, basically. But the whole process is going to be filmed.

1:26:49PFT Commenter:Yeah, some people are saying not us, we would never say this, but some people are saying that if Tommy Fleetwood was a real man, he would play left-handed in the Ryder Cup. No, my left-handed club's one coming out at the Ryder Cup. Sounds like you're afraid. Sounds like you're afraid. I'm not a real man. I'm just not a real man. I'd do it. Come on, do it. You could be – imagine if you beat us, lefty. We'd have to stop being a country. I can imagine it. Yeah. I can imagine it, but it won't happen. We should do – so we have a couple golfers. PFT and Hank are pretty good golfers. I'm a terrible golfer.

1:27:25PFT Commenter:Maybe we could figure out a time in your schedule where you and I play as a scramble against PFT and Hank, but you have to play lefty, and you can watch just the horrific golfing I do. I would love that. I would love that. You can watch what I do. The thing is, I know that there's always a disaster in me. So even if I have a little, even if I have a little, hitting some decent shots, and then I think it's because I don't know. Like I can hit bad shots right-handed, but I know I can fix it. I can do something different. But because I don't know what I'm doing, my mind just goes. And that's what's coming when I'm left-handed.

1:28:04Big Cat:It feels like it's not if, it's when the bad shots are coming. Exactly. It does. It does. No matter how good it's going, there's a shank, there's a top, there's a lost ball. It's always in there. But the fun part about playing left-handed for you, it must be what I feel when I play. When I hit a good shot, I'm super excited. I'm like, holy shit, how did I do that? And when I hit a bad shot, I'm like, whatever. Yeah, let's go again. Yeah, it is. But it is. It's completely like starting. It's not quite from starting scratch because I can sort of hit the ball. But yeah, I get all the feelings that all the, I guess, regular golfers get.

1:28:43So I like it in a sick way.

1:28:45PFT Commenter:It would be a great video, though, like you screwing up a shot and then having to rely on me and you standing over me being like, don't fuck this up. And I will fuck it up. When you screw it up and you've got to rely on me, I'll be so nervous.

1:29:01Big Cat:So I want to go back to the Ryder Cup real quick. Did you sleep naked with the Ryder Cup?

1:29:09Oh, in 2018? Yeah. I was naked in that picture, yeah.

1:29:16Big Cat:So what was the process behind that? You didn't think it was good enough to just beat us? You had to be like, I'm also fully nude with the cup? It was somebody else's idea. He thought this would be like a great picture or a great concert. We did a video, didn't we? Me and Fran. And we ended up going down the street. We had the Ryder Cup. And I think Fran was just very set on like, okay, we'll just get in bed. We'll do the video and then we'll carry on partying. And as he turned around, I just stripped off and I just got in bed. Yeah, I thought it was funny. But yeah, that was cool. See, people still remember it.

1:29:54Big Cat:Yeah. It was a little bit disrespectful to the United States. We're adding fuel to the fire. I don't think it was disrespectful. i'm just finding ways to get angry at tommy fleetwood fleetwood a man who i've never been upset at in my entire life yeah i just need some motivation going to know as well yeah that's true we're wanting to know yeah we are wanting to know but we have to turn our back on you we can't we can't bet against the united states going it's in three weeks as well so we still got time yeah we got time yeah we got time we got time right now we don't we don't argue now yeah we can uh i got

1:30:25PFT Commenter:a kind of a tough question but like obviously with uh you the season you had incredible and coming close all these times was there a moment at all during all the second places and being close that you had like a not a crisis of confidence but being like maybe maybe I'm not going to do this maybe I'm not going to break through because I always find that interesting with athletes like the mental part of it and being able to to fight against that and be like no I gotta I'm playing well I gotta keep trusting myself yeah 100 % and I think I think there's a bit of both I never I I never felt like I wasn't going to win, but more and more doubt creeps in, which is just natural because, you know, every time I'd been there, it didn't happen for one reason or another.

1:31:13And it definitely gets harder every time you go there. Not necessarily like harder in a playing sense, but you just deal with more stuff. It's not like, it's just not come easy. But I also, I was also always conscious of, I felt like my, everybody can inspire in like a different way. Like, and I feel like our job when you're on TV or you're playing sports and you want to pass things down, you want to try and like motivate people in whatever way you can. You know, I haven't been like an amazing winner. I haven't been like a dominating athlete. So like, I'm not going to motivate in that way. People aren't going to watch videos of me dominate in tournaments or anything like that so um i felt like mine uh i was or it is a story of perseverance uh like mental fortitude in a different way and i always kind of felt that i always wanted to um as many times as it will go wrong uh i always wanted to remember that like i will get this done i will get my first win and it's never been um for me it's never been about just winning once like i've always said i want to win you know multiple times i want to win plenty of times but you just have to win the first one first right and and that's and that's been like something that i just haven't done but i um yeah i just always felt like my story was going to be uh different in that way and that's how i was gonna like be able to sort of motivate people so um i kept that in mind but of course doubts doubts creeping massively the doubts for there on sunday um but you just have to work just that little bit harder to uh sort of keep them at bay did you do

1:32:48Big Cat:anything differently on Sunday than you've done in the past specifically that felt like it was the difference in you holding on to this? Not particularly. I don't think I played any better than the last few times like I've been in contention. Like I put it really well. But I also think, and again, it's a strange scenario where the amount, when you, I hate the word failing, like I just don't like it. But let's just say I, you know, I failed to win like a bunch of times. like when you do it enough times you sort you definitely stop worrying about it like you stop fearing failing because you keep doing it and you're always fine and you just get up and you dust yourself off and you go the next time so I'm not really worried about that but then you do have all these doubts so it's like this kind of like weird crossroads that you come into where you you're kind of totally fine with where you are and if it goes wrong you're fine but you're still doubting it um but I I just think that this time um it just it just opened up for me like way more this time than other events like i say nobody sort of managed to catch up with me um i hit the shots at the right time it it just it just fell on my lap and this was the door that i got the chance to walk through really yeah yeah it was very cool and i heard that you're getting into american sports a little bit too with all the time you've been spending over here is that right uh i did yeah i love sports so i love american sports i think there's so much i think there's so much that you can enjoy and learn from american sports i i love it so every time like with the TaylorMade guys because the TaylorMade guys are there from Monday to Wednesday, like Tuesday night if the baseball team is in town, like we try and go to a ballpark and watch, like that's Tuesday night's our night to go to a ballpark I love that, just going there and hanging out I've actually enjoyed pre-season NFL, actually I did watch I've just watched the second season of Quarterback as well, so I'm sort of having an NFL frenzy in my mind at the moment so I'm enjoying it.

1:34:43I love that.

1:34:43Big Cat:Do you want a Super Bowl over in England? Because Roger Goodell is trying to put the Super Bowl in England. Well, who knows? I probably shouldn't be over in England, should I? No. Good point. Good point, Tommy. Good point, Tommy. We like even more. So, yeah, that would be wrong. And I am actually a massive NBA fan. Basketball is probably my favorite sport. Okay. Who's your favorite player? Steph Curry. When I started playing on the PGA Tour, Golden State, Steph Curry, they were like, you know, they were obviously the best team. And I sort of latched on to them a little bit. Bit of a glory supporter.

1:35:17Big Cat:Yeah. Have you ever played golf with him? I haven't. No. He's good. Got to make that happen. Still good.

1:35:25PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. I would love to. All right. I got a couple last questions. The first one was, so Tron Carter from No Laying Up, he is a massive fan of yours. He's shown up to a couple of the tournaments when you've been in contention. Would you get a little bit nervous when he showed up on Sunday and like, oh, here we we go because i i know at least two times i know he went to england i believe once and then he was there on sunday yeah did you notice him when he when he showed up you're like okay here we go we got to win this i i didn't see him that day actually when he showed up but i saw him afterwards and and like we sort of had a little chat and then i i didn't see him i didn't see him on sunday last week um until the very end and i saw him the presentation was going on i saw him in the crowd and I gave him a little fist pump.

1:36:09That's awesome. Because he's been such a great supporter. So I appreciate it all. But yeah, he's been great. So it's just cool. When you've been through it and you've had people that have supported you for so long, getting to share a cool moment and then we finally did it, it's great. It's awesome.

1:36:27PFT Commenter:That's an awesome, yeah. Like us, we've supported you for so long. Yeah, we're 1-0. Yeah. Shout out Rob with two Bs. All right, my last question, rowback question, rhoback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase qzips polos hoodies joggers shorts roback.com promo code take your caddy's a hoss he's a tall guy he's a big boy yeah everybody actually thinks i'm when they see me in person they think like i'm taller than what people expect because i stand next to him all day so yeah like um i'm really short is it is it nice having a guy like you know if shit goes down like he's he's got your back he's he's a big guy i could take come in and fight no problem so it's not uh wait how tall is he six five or six six yeah yeah it's it's funny watching you guys walk down the down the uh fairways you're like damn that's a that's a big caddy yeah like i said because everybody thinks i'm i'm like five foot two or something and i'm not i'm i'm five three but now i'm bigger than that um yeah like everybody just thinks i'm shorter than what I am because he is a big boy.

1:37:33Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. All right. So Ryder Cup, any predictions? Well, of course, I'm going to stand by my boys and my team and say that, you know, I'm going to go in with full faith in our team and say Europe are going to bring the Ryder Cup back. I can't say anything other than that. Well, is there one guy that you really you are really hoping you don't get matched up against? No, no. I'm sorry about sitting on the fence on that one. I would love to give you a better answer. But no, I love being part of the team. I love getting a chance to play any of those guys. Like, I just think they're a Ryder Cup.

1:38:14You're guaranteed to get an unbelievable matchup. Like, whether you're playing foursomes, four-ball singles, like, it's going to be, like, you're going to be playing someone that you think, yeah, this is awesome. I get the chance to play him. So, no, I'll happily, you know, go ahead against anyone because I just think it's so cool and what an amazing opportunity.

1:38:33PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, Tommy, thank you so much. Incredible job on Sunday. We really enjoyed watching you play and win. And worst of luck in the Ryder Cup. Oh, well, thanks, guys. Yeah, we're 1-0. We're 1-0. Yeah, we're 1-0. That's true. We're 1-0 together. This will suck if USA loses and we bet on them, and now we're 1-1.

1:38:53Big Cat:I might have just bet on Tommy to win his matchups and then on the USA to win the Ryder Cup. Yeah. How about that? That's a good hedge. I mean yeah that would be what would I be included in like 3-0 then or would that just be doing that yeah yeah just doing me job try my hardest I promise you I'll be trying my hardest

1:39:12PFT Commenter:alright thanks so much Tommy congrats again man thank you Tommy thanks guys thanks so much alright see ya appreciate it man that was fun thanks for making this work thank you very much you guys are great thank you yeah we'll do a video sometime whenever we can get our schedules set we'd love to come to you You definitely should. I would love that. Like I say, there's literally never going to be anything I do left-handed that's not really on camera. I love it. I promise you I'm not practicing. I don't turn up any good. I'll be awful. I love it. All right. Thanks. Very cool. All right. See you. See you, guys.

1:39:42PFT Commenter:Bye.

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1:40:20Big Cat:And now here's Ross Dellinger.

1:40:24PFT Commenter:okay we now welcome on a very special guest he is a recurring guest it is yahoo sports college football writer senior college football writer ross sure senior yeah okay that doesn't make me old does that make me old no you're good senior college football writer uh ross delinger who we had on last year great talk with you last year and uh we figured let's talk some college football let's also talk barstool versus ohio state because you seem to be the most plugged in guy so why don't you tell us uh what you have found out and uh we can maybe clear the whole record because it's gone back and forth a million times it feels like yeah um well i didn't i didn't expect to wake up tuesday morning and um be reporting on a barstool ohio state big 10 drama But you never know, right, what you're going to run into in this crazy industry these days.

1:41:21So I woke up Tuesday morning, and yeah, we taped our podcast, College Report and Choir, Tuesday morning. And before we got on the tape, we had talked about what we were going to talk about. And one of the things was, you know, the report about Dave Portnoy being banned from Ohio Stadium. And so before we got on that call, I did what I thought was sort of due diligence and just reached out to some people. including folks at Ohio State who then decided to put out basically a statement saying that they didn't ban Dave Portnoy. And it was Fox's decision to ban or to not let Dave Portnoy onto the field.

1:42:01And then it kind of went from there. Then the Big Ten released a statement that said that Dave Portnoy won't appear on the main Fox Big Noon kickoff set in any of its stadiums this year. So it kind of took off like a little wildfire there. And so that's sort of where we are. Okay.

1:42:25Big Cat:So let me ask you this. Based on the chain of events, as it sounds like some organizations were reacting to what other organizations said, do you think that it's likely that Ohio State was the initial party that said no Dave Portnoy? Here's what I know. And I think this was announced maybe in like mid-July, I feel like, somewhere around there. And pretty much immediately, like the next week was Big Ten Media Day, football media day in Las Vegas. I was there. and it was made pretty clear to me there from a variety of people, including I think people from Ohio State, that they weren't like super thrilled with the announcement.

1:43:08And some of them were taken by surprise on the announcement. So I will say that. And, you know, so it wouldn't surprise me at all that they expressed some level of disagreement or concern about the role of Dave Portnoy on Big Noon kickoff.

1:43:29PFT Commenter:Okay. So, all right. So here's what I know. And you can tell me if this is wrong or not. I think what would happen is Ohio State doesn't want us there. That's a fact. We were going to be there. The Barstool College football show was going to be in Columbus on Saturday against Texas, Ohio State. They said no. Ohio State said no, you cannot be on campus. We had our travel booked. This isn't just me making it up. We were ready to go. And then I think it obviously came out. And then Ohio State might have been like, well, this kind of doesn't look great that we're trying to ban someone. So Fox maybe jumped in and was like, hey, we're not going to have him in any stadium.

1:44:08PFT Commenter:I do think Ohio State doesn't want Barstool on campus. I think it's great for the rivalry, by the way. I have no problem with Ohio State being petty here. I think Ohio State fans should have no blame. No one should be going after Ohio State fans. This is all great for the rivalry. But Ohio State does not want Barstool on campus next to the big noon kickoff set. They don't want that, and they basically told us that. So I agree with you in that this is great for the rivalry and college football. Like we all have to, I was talking to somebody today about this. We live in a college football bubble, right?

1:44:48Where we just take everything so seriously, all these things. And like the people outside of the bubble, especially like I live in DC, right? And I deal with a lot of like congressional people or whatever. And they're like dealing with like real problems, like wars and people dying in taxes and tariffs. And like, it reminds me college football is entertainment. It's just sports, their games, and their entertainment. And so all this does is sort of like it's a piece of entertainment, right? I mean, I think it's like Andy Staples, my colleague, he said this on our podcast this morning. It's like sort of like lean into it.

1:45:27It's like WWE wrestling sort of thing, like lean into it all. And it's sort of good for, in a way, college football and maybe even the Big Ten, right? Any news is good news, Fox, all that. So I think you've got a great point. Yeah. I think so, a lot of that.

1:45:44Big Cat:If it's good for anyone, it's really good for Dave. Yes. This is the environment where Dave is very, very comfortable playing at this level. Like, this is the best news. Hey, Dave, we're going to ask you to do less work this weekend. You're not going to be there. So you get to stay at home. You get to live in Florida for the weekend. Well, no, he is going to Columbus. Oh, he's going to Columbus. He's not on campus. He's not going to the stadium. Yeah, so he has to do less work still, and also he is now the focus of everyone's attention going into this game. There's no place that Dave feels more at home than where he's at right now.

1:46:16PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. So what's the future, though? Like, is Ohio State going to ban us from ever going to their campus? Because it feels that way, and it feels like Ohio State's very upset at Fox, and what like they're they're the number one partner for Fox they are the you know I mean obviously Michigan but like Ohio State you need Ohio State for the Big Ten that is a very big piece of the puzzle well you know this this um sort of drama is a good reminder of the connective tissue between um conferences in their media affiliate where they get most of their money from. Right. Where they rely on these TV networks, the SEC to ESPN.

1:47:02Obviously, the Big Ten to Fox and NBC and CBS. The Big 12 to Fox and ESPN. They have them both. ACC to ESPN. They get a majority, their schools get a majority of their revenue from these TV contracts. And so it's sort of like one of the questions is always like, who's making these decisions? Who's running these conferences? and what's the influence that a TV network has. And, you know, I think it's sort of like a fascinating dynamic moving forward because you're right, right? Like Fox has this huge share in the Big Ten, pays a lot of money to the Big Ten in its schools and wants to see them thrive and do well.

1:47:51but they also want to compete with the other networks and have the personalities like a Dave and you guys and others to compete with their competition. And so it's going to be fascinating to see sort of how this evolves. Right. And we see some of this in the SEC, too. Right. We've seen this. Certainly there's there's McAfee on the on college game day. There's Paul Feinbaum on the SEC network who has certainly had run-ins with people at SEC schools who have pushed back on certain things done and said. So it's a pretty fascinating dynamic.

1:48:31Big Cat:It is very interesting. Yeah. So can we talk a little bit about the college football coming up this weekend? Yeah, let's go. The actual games. I'm excited. I looked at the grid, looked at the schedule. My Saturday is booked solid. I'm probably not going to leave my couch at all. the dog would be lucky if i if i let him out like three times over the course of that day it's going to be an awesome day of college football um let's start with miami notre dame catholics versus convicts run it back again um i we just talked to a couple of our in-house college football experts um that's coming out on friday's show but they were very they were kind of split on this um some people that i've talked to are really high on miami this year so what do you see happening this weekend well unfortunately and i got a text from somebody in Miami this morning about this because I guess our picks are like staff picks.

1:49:18Not game picks, but like season pick sort of things came out. And one of the questions was, who's going to be like the most disappointing team this year? And I picked Miami. And so I kind of got a nasty message this morning. But I had to pick somebody. I'm going to make somebody angry. But I do – Miami is what, top 12, 13? So the thought is that they probably won't finish inside that maybe this year. And I don't know. Like, I'm just throwing darts at the wall here. Aren't we all, like, with these predictions, right? I mean, we're just kind of throwing darts at the wall. I do think that this is going to be a really, really good game I'm excited about.

1:49:57So I'm going to be in Columbus, but I'm flying out of Columbus Saturday night to Miami and then covering Miami-Notre Dame Sunday night. and it's a it's a really I mean the atmosphere should be awesome Notre Dame always travels well brings a lot of folks down there but I do think that I do give the Irish an edge even though we sort of like don't know a ton about either of these teams because they've lost a lot they've got new quarterbacks obviously we know a lot about Carson Carson Beck coming over from Georgia big storyline of the offseason you know so I mean a lot of players don't transfer out of Georgia right and and so so that's sort of a big storyline on how and he had some he had some sort of a off the field girlfriend sort of drama that unfolded this spring so it'll be it'll be interesting I will say this about Mario Cristobal they have built it up there right every year they've gotten better every year the lines look more and more like SEC lines they're defensive and offensive lines they're spending a lot of money and investing big time down there so So where that comes a lot of expectations.

1:51:07PFT Commenter:All right, so you travel all around the country. You talk to everyone. Give me a coach or a team that you think is like on the rise that we're not, you know, we obviously know the mainstays, but a team you're like, hey, this coach has things moving in the right direction. This program feels like it's getting momentum. Huh, good question. You know, one of my like season picks, I ended up, I think I ended up picking Clemson to win the ACC. And then they were sort of my, if there was going to be a surprise this year, the big surprise was that a school other than the Big Ten or SEC would win the national championship, which in my mind would be Clemson.

1:51:50So that's not really answering your question because Clemson's not some upstart. But in a way, they've had a few down years. and it feels like I visited there back in April or May and it feels like they're, that they're coming back.

1:52:07PFT Commenter:Yeah. Like it just kind of feels that way there. And they've got a really veteran quarterback who I think is going to probably win or get very close to winning the Heisman Trophy is going to be up there probably at the NK Club Nick. And I think they're getting closer. They made a defensive coordinator change. But anyway, so I think when I think of like young coaches like up and coming, I go down to New Orleans actually and I look at John Summerall and what he's done at Tulane and like, look out, right. He's going to be like another, it's going to be another coaching off season where, you know, somebody like that is going to be at the top of everybody's list when they make coaching changes.

1:52:43And they're probably going to be a lot of coaching changes this year. There weren't a lot last year. It was like a historic low. And usually what happens after historic low is we get a really big high.

1:52:54Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. I was actually, I was looking at some of your reporting that you did earlier on the, the future of realignment and what college football is going to look like two, five, 10 years down the road. Are we going to get to a place where there's one giant, like division one conference, are we going to get to a place where it's like the power to model? Yeah. It's like the question, like everybody wants to know is, is like looking to the crystal ball and tell us in five, seven years when all this movement is going to happen, which we know when it's going to happen. We at least know when it's probably going to happen between 2030 and 2032 because the Big 12 and Big 10 TV deals come open.

1:53:34Then the college football playoff deal ends then in 31, the NCAA basketball tournament, its contract ends in 32. So you have all these things that come open. So that's the span of time where you're going to have some kind of shift into whether it's a Super League or a couple of leagues sort of taking over or a split from the NCAA. Whatever is going to happen is probably going to happen then. And I don't know what's going to happen, but I can tell you something's going to happen. We're going to have another round of conference realignment that's going to see the biggest brands continue to consolidate into one or two leagues.

1:54:19And it's just kind of like the economy and capitalism in general. That's how it works. We see that in every walk of life outside of college sports. The biggest brands consolidate so they can make more money and keep the money that they make. And I think we're just going to see that. And obviously we know two schools sued the ACC, although they settled. They settled for an easier exit path out of the ACC. So that newsflash, right, they're going to almost certainly leave at some point. And the odds are they're going to leave during that stretch and go to the SEC or Big Ten. And that's going to cause a domino effect in the ACC, potentially could impact the Big 12 as well.

1:55:01And then you're going to have some kind of conglomeration of schools, whether it's Big 10 and SEC only or some other schools also mixed in, sort of probably separate themselves from everybody else. because no longer can you have the University of Texas with a budget of$250 million competing in the same division as UTSA with a budget of$40 million. That's probably not going to happen anymore.

1:55:37PFT Commenter:You mentioned your picks, your preseason picks. Can we go around the conferences, the Power Four conferences? You can give us your championship game. who's going to win that conference and why. So we'll start with the SEC. What do you have in the SEC? I have a little bit of surprise. I have LSU winning the SEC championship. And that LSU-Clemson game this weekend is going to be a ball. I actually wanted to go to that one, but just as far as flights and getting to Miami, I'm going to go to Columbus instead. But that's a really – I think LSU and Clemson could be in the top eight, top four at the end of the year at the playoff.

1:56:15So I have LSU beating Georgia in the SEC championship game.

1:56:23PFT Commenter:Okay. Brian Kelly getting off the hot seat. Yeah, Garrett Nusspeier. Yeah. It's a lot of pressure down there. They spent a lot of money. They were spending, I think I went down there for a story in February. They spent on their team$5 million two years ago. They spent this year$18 million.

1:56:44Big Cat:What's he going to do different in week one? I feel like Brian Kelly week one hasn't always turned out the best. Yeah, it hasn't been great, right? I think LSU's lost five straight season openers, even going back to like Orgeron's first two years. So this is a big one. At Clemson, it's going to be rocking there. You know, you've got the Battle of the Death Valleys. Yeah, it's going to be an exciting one. But you know what? The loser of that game, and this is kind of like the good and bad of an expanded playoff, right? If you have a four-team playoff, the loser of that game is probably out or certainly has to do a lot to get in.

1:57:21And the loser of that game now in a 12-team playoff is okay. Especially if it's a close game.

1:57:26PFT Commenter:Yeah. Are you not believing in Arch Manning? No, I'm a believer in Arch Manning. In fact, I visited there two weeks ago, got a story coming out on Yahoo tomorrow about Mr. Arch Manning. Give us some juicy tidbits from the story. Okay. Well, first of all, the one thing concerns me about Texas in general is offensive and defensive lines. Offensive lines, all new. One guy, one returning starter. So he's going to be throwing passes to and all new receivers, too. I think they lost their top three or top four receivers. So a lot of pressure on him. Juicy stuff in my story. Arch is not like, you know, he's not like the most entertaining, drama-filled guy, right?

1:58:07The Mannings are kind of like these Southern gentlemen who just kind of like talk slow and are sort of boring, really nice and polite, but kind of boring. What is the most interesting thing? So I talked to a few of Arch's friends. They go to this place in Austin called Matt's El Rancho. Love it. I don't know if you guys have been. It's a pretty good Tex-Mex spot. Great queso. Yeah. Bob's queso apparently is real popular there. Bob Armstrong.

1:58:35Big Cat:Yeah. There you go. I'm familiar with Mattel Rancho. I've waited hours for margaritas there. So one of their friends was telling me that Arch, unfortunately for him, when they go there, he can't get the margaritas because too many people knows him there. So he can't get real sloppy. So he can't do all that. But they go wake surfing on Lake Travis there. And they eat Chipotle a lot. And they go to Mattel Rancho's. And in this past summer, actually, him and a friend visited. They went to Cabo and to be with Peyton. So Peyton has like this villa in Cabo, like on the beach. And they hit golf balls off of a mat into the ocean from Peyton's home.

1:59:20I'm like, wow, that sounds pretty cool.

1:59:23PFT Commenter:Yeah, that sounds excellent. I saw that Eli, there was a story that Eli told Arch, never take a picture with a drink in your hand. Because there's the famous Eli picture of him with his eyes half closed. He's like, if you have a drink in your hand and you blink at the wrong time, it just becomes a meme.

1:59:40Big Cat:It became the SEC boyfriend meme.

1:59:42PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:59:43Big Cat:So that's good advice from the uncle. Yeah, did he address losing his student ID like his first week in Austin? Because that was very relatable too. Yeah, twice, right? He lost his ID twice. Once he left in an English class. I don't know what happened the other time, but he left in an English class and somebody found it, actually scanned it to get into the building, the football building, and thankfully didn't do anything nefarious in there, just handed the ID over. And the ID got all the way up to Sark, who FaceTimed Arch with the ID and was like, hey, missing something, buddy? That's awesome.

2:00:20Big Cat:I love that. That's awesome. So what about the Big Ten? Who do you have at the top of the Big Ten this year? Who do I have? Penn State. I have Penn State. I'm winning the Big Ten. I visited there a couple weeks ago, actually, too, sitting down with Jim Knowles, who's like a fascinating guy, defensive coordinator there. Fascinating story. Grew up in downtown Philly and just like a Philly guy, smoked cigars. He was a really fascinating interview. I think he's going to have that defense ready to go. I think Drew Aller, a quarterback, that's obviously the big question. I sat down with Drew. He spent the off-season training, and he's gotten faster.

2:00:57faster. He's lost some weight. He's eating right. He said, uh, so, you know, that, that interception at the end of the, the Notre Dame game, I think still sticks with him. It was, you know, I mean, you guys probably would agree. It was like one of the worst late game college football playoff decisions we've seen. And he knows that like, and he knows that it just kind of sits with him. So I think the motivation, all that from them, I think they win the, I think they win the big 10.

2:01:22PFT Commenter:And who do they beat? Who did I have them beating? I think I have them beating Ohio State, yeah, which would be a rematch, obviously, of regular season. Yeah. Yeah. Are you believing at all in Oregon, Dante Moore? Yeah, I am a super talented player. But obviously they have a lot of new pieces. But I am a believer. I mean, the pieces around him, they've done an incredible, Like Dan Lanning's done an incredible job there of recruiting. And obviously in this new sort of NIL era, they have more advantage than a lot of schools. And I think they're using that. It's pretty clearly. And Dan surrounded him with a lot of good pieces.

2:02:08And they should be right there too, right? I mean, they should make the playoff.

2:02:11PFT Commenter:Yeah, yeah. Okay, what about the ACC? You said Miami would be your disappointment of the year. So I assume it's Clemson over someone else. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've got, I think, Clemson. I don't even know. Who do I have them beating? Let's see. Maybe it's, I don't think it's the fighting Belichicks. It would be great, though, if the fighting Belichicks were to somehow, you know, win like nine or ten games and get to the ACC championship game against Clemson. Could you guys imagine? You know, I spent some time with him last week. Actually, him and his sons in Chapel Hill, which was weird. All the Belichicks are there.

2:02:49And it was a fascinating interview because the sons don't talk a lot. And Steve is much like his dad. He doesn't say a whole lot. And Brian is not like his dad at all. Like, he talks a lot. So it was kind of fascinating. They're all back together. Like, he's got like six, seven grandkids now living there. But it would be fascinating to me if they make it there. But I think in the end, I must have Clemson Yupp playing. I'll have to look. I think I do have them play in Louisville for the championship and have Clemson winning and going pretty far in the playoff too, I think.

2:03:22Big Cat:So with the Belichick thing, it's interesting because, like, I feel like the closer college football season has come, the less we're talking about Bill Belichick, which should be one of the biggest storylines in the country once the games start happening. So, like, how are things looking from a camp perspective in Chapel Hill? Yeah, it was – It was, well, first of all, they have like 70 new players. It's crazy. Kind of like West Virginia. I visited them a few weeks ago and wrote about Rich Rye. They have 74 new players. I think North Carolina has like 70 or 71 new players. So you've got a completely new coaching staff, all these new players.

2:04:00And a similar thing that Rich Rye told me at West Virginia, which was, I have no effing idea what we're going to look like. Like, I don't, I can't predict it. Like Belichick was similar, right? It's like, how am I supposed to predict this? Like everybody's new, right? And then a lot of his coaching staff, obviously his NFL guys, like his two sons, one of them has never coached in college. So that was actually really interesting to get their perspective on what the difference is. And it was kind of fascinating to hear them talk about how they're enjoying coaching college players because they're showing them techniques and stuff they've never seen before.

2:04:40I mean, they're coming. They have all these NFL stuff and everything. And the players are like, wow, this is amazing. I've never seen this before. So that was really cool. That was pretty neat. But who knows how they're going to be? And when I was down there, somebody asked about their quarterback battle. They asked Bill Belichick, like, hey, are you ready to name a starter in the quarterback competition? And kind of tongue-in-cheek, he's like, yeah, we'll get that right over to you guys along with all of our starting lineup. Yeah, we'll put that out two weeks before the game. He's still got that.

2:05:13He's going to love this.

2:05:14PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. And then the hardest one, the Big 12. the conference of chaos which I love I love that it stays that but can you what was your pick and reasoning yeah it's um I don't have good reasoning for any of it but um because the big 12 is crazy man like you never know I and I told I was talking to some people at the big 12 earlier this week I'm like you guys gotta like lean into this we don't know what the hell's gonna happen yep every weekend Like just lean into like the conference of chaos, man. Like the parody in that league is like no other power conference league. But anyway, I picked Baylor actually to win it all.

2:05:57And just so happens about a month ago, I went down there and spent some time with Dave Aranda and those guys. But I think they've got – you know, he's got returning quarterback. And I think he's got enough pieces from the portal. They had a big portal year. They got 23 players out of the portal. They had not gotten 25 players, I think, out of the portal the last three years. So they started to really realize we've got to plug some holes here. And then he's kind of overhauling the defense. You know, he's Mr. Mastermind. He's sort of overhauling the defense. And I just kind of have trust he's going to sort of put the pieces in the right place to sort of get it done.

2:06:34I actually have them beating Iowa State for the championship, which obviously Iowa State just pulled off the win in Ireland against Kansas State in a typical sort of Big 12 fashion game, right? Crazy, ugly, at the end, anybody can win. Exciting sort of contest.

2:06:58Big Cat:What about Rich Rod? What was it like spending time with him? Because he's a fascinating guy. and his sole story about his journey from West Virginia to where he is now, full circle, it's fascinating. So what was he like as a guy? Yeah, and I go back a few years with him, and it was great getting time, spending time with him. He's still that guy that is just, even though he's 62, it's kind of like he's that guy that was there when he was in his 30s and 40s at West Virginia. He's yelling at players like crazy. He's going nonstop. you know, he's working like 18, 20 hours a day. I mean, it's, it's, he's grinding, man.

2:07:38And it was fun sort of to follow him around and hear about kind of the emotional side of this, right? I mean, this has a, this whole move for him has a real, a lot of emotions to it, right? I mean, he was, when he left there, they hated him, right? They like, they turned turned on one of their own. And to them, to the fan base there and the people of that state, he turned, one of their own turned on them by leaving and leaving sort of the way he did. And so nobody ever thought, right, that he would dare come back or be allowed back to come back to Morgantown. And so it's sort of this reunion of a fan base in a state.

2:08:22They got 1.8 million people in the state of West Virginia, right? It's tiny. They're a pretty fairly poor state. They have zero billionaires in the state. Like there's only like five other states in the U.S. that have zero billionaires. West Virginia is one of them. And so they're this state that no pro sports, right? Everything is West Virginia football and everything for so long was Rich Rod. And when he left and I have a part of the story was he's from a little town called Grant Town. and it's like 40 minute drive south of Morgantown. And I went there and guys, it's unbelievable. Like you drive through the town in about two and a half minutes.

2:09:00I mean, it's tiny. It's got 550 people in it. It's an old mining town. When the mine was shut down like 50 years ago, basically the town lost like almost all of its population and schools closed and all the restaurants closed. There's nothing. There's nothing there except homes. It's a community center and a city hall that closes at 3 p.m. every day. So it's crazy. So I went back there and there was a sign, you know, welcome to Grant Town. And below it was home of Rich Rodriguez. Well, that sign when he left for Michigan was not just like torn off that it's post, but it was like vandalized and like thrown somewhere into the river, right, the nearby river.

2:09:46And my part of the story is when he got rehired and when he had this emotional outpouring at the press conference where he basically said, I regret leaving. I should have never left here. They put the sign back up. A new sign, but they put the sign back up. And it's sort of emblematic of the state in general of he has come back to sort of try to restore the glory. he's sort of sorry for the way he left in for leaving and we forgive him but as somebody there told me um they'll forgive him now but you gotta win yeah yeah yeah yeah it's a cool story so you

2:10:29PFT Commenter:you go everywhere which is awesome uh what's your favorite facility in in the country what's the one that still impresses you we're like man this is they're they're doing it a different level like like just like football facility yeah football facility yeah um i got some tours the last couple years of some brand new facilities that are just unbelievable like the georgia georgia's new facility a football facility is crazy in fact it's funny this is a funny story so this is like three years ago they opened their facility they toured me around and at the end of the tour i had an interview with kirby smart so i'll walk into kirby's office and i'm like dude dude, this facility is unbelievable.

2:11:12Like, I mean, it's better than any NFL facility I've ever seen. And he looked at me and he said, well, that's what happens when they won't let us pay the players.

2:11:22Big Cat:Yep. So now we're in this rev share world, right? Where illegally they finally get to pay the players. But Georgia sticks out, Nebraska's, I got a tour of that last year. That's a facility that opened this past year. It's also just stunning as well. I got a tour of Clemson's non-football facility. Clemson opened a facility that's just as good as any football facility I've ever seen, but it's for all the other sports. It's for all their Olympic sports. Yeah, and it is stunning as well. So I told the people at Clemson, I'm like, you guys open this at the right time because right now a lot of people are pausing facility upgrades because they're having to pay the players.

2:12:04So all the schools who upgraded their facility in the last three to five years sort of have this advantage.

2:12:13Big Cat:Yeah. No, you're right. For a while, it was like we can't pay players. We can put in a third barber chair. Yeah, that's right. Or a waterfall. Yeah. A nap pod. This will become the difference. No, it's interesting when you look at the behind-the-scenes stuff and how they decorate things, how they lay them out. Which coach has the least decorated office, like the plainest office? Because I like those coaches that work in the middle of the castle, but then you go into the room where they actually work, and it's like something their wife gave them to hang up on the wall. That's like leaning against the wall in the corner.

2:12:46Yeah, I'm trying to think here. So, you know, well, I was just talking about going to Penn State. I didn't go into James Franklin's office, but I went into, again, Jim Knowles, the defensive coordinator. Man, and there's nothing there, right? There's nothing in his office. And he's like typical, like old school defensive coordinator guy. I love that. Right. From Philly. And there's like, yeah, there's nothing in his office except X's and O papers in like a dry erase board in the corner with a bunch of like X's and O's. Right. And schematics and play calls and things like that. I mean, he's football guy through and through.

2:13:23Football guy.

2:13:24PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right. Ross, this has been awesome. I have one last question. Rowback question. RHOBACK.com. Promo code TAKE. 20 % off your first purchase. QZips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com, promo code take. We've danced around it. Who's your national champion? Yes, I was waiting for you guys to ask this. I don't feel great about it. I don't feel great about any pick or prediction because we're predicting 19, 20, 21-year-olds. But I picked Penn State to win it all. Oh, this is the year. Yeah, and I actually picked them to beat. I think I have the championship game, them beating LSU.

2:14:03for the, for all the, for all the marvel. So I think it, maybe it's Penn state's year, you know, they, they've got a veteran quarterback who seems to have a lot of motivation and has improved in the off season. And they've got a defense run by one of the better defensive coordinators in the country with, I think it's five or six players returned from last year who would have been drafted in the first two rounds. Right. So they're, they're pretty stocked and in, um, in locked and loaded.

2:14:33Big Cat:All right. Uh, group of five representation in the college football playoff is Boise state. Yeah. It's hard not to say Boise state. You know, I think that's, I think that's, um, who I, who I ended up picking, but, um, keep an eye on that John Summerall and Tulane down there, man. Um, you know, they're, they're, uh, they're doing, they're doing big things down there. Um, he's had a lot of success, obviously losing their quarterback, uh, Darian Mensah to Duke wasn't great. But, yeah, it's hard to not pick Boise in that race.

2:15:06PFT Commenter:Yeah. Cool. Ross, thank you so much. We'll see what the future holds for Ohio State Barstool. Again, I don't know if in your reporting you know that they did ban the show, our show. Yeah. So that part is true. And I know that we can do semantics about Dave being in stadiums, but they did not allow us to do the show on campus on Saturday. So where are y 'all doing the show? We're going to do studio first week, and then the next week we'll be on the road. Okay. Okay. You know where you're going this season? Do you plot out beforehand? It's big noon. It's whatever big noon decides. So we'll join them for six of the week Saturdays in the fall, which we're excited for.

2:15:48PFT Commenter:We're very excited for. It's going to be a lot of fun. But I don't think we'll be going to Columbus. us so uh connor stallions is going to get in get in dave portnoy into the stadium some way yeah

2:15:57Big Cat:yeah he said you want tickets yeah it's part of the kgb yeah it's great the kgb yeah it's great yeah well hey guys thanks for having me on always always a pleasure ross is brought to you by jose cuervo cuervo devil's reserve a sweet tropical spicy infused tequila like a spicy marg in a bottle smooth and delicious devil's reserve is the perfect drink for when mischief is on the menu. Available in multiple sizes, including 50-milliliter shooters, perfect to bring to your tailgate, it's time to listen to the little devil on your shoulder. Pour a round of shots. Get ready to raise a little hell. I love Cuervo Devil's Reserve.

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2:16:50PFT Commenter:okay let's wrap up the show we got faqs faqs faqs for the listeners faqs let's do it do you ever listen back to episodes of the show on the day they drop or how often do you revisit

2:17:02Big Cat:old interviews slash episodes no i don't i'll check in sometimes if somebody's like hey the audio's messed up then i'll drop in on the episode i'll listen to it but no i don't particularly like

2:17:13PFT Commenter:hearing the sound of my own voice yeah i don't either i also uh every now and like if something yeah if something's fucked up i'll go listen um and then i just i i feel like i've forgotten everything i think i told this story i've even forgotten the story that i was on uh waddle and sylvie my guys espn 1000 and we were talking about joe kim or tibbs yeah i was like yeah he got his office got bugged his last days in chicago and they're like we never heard that story and then

2:17:41Big Cat:they googled it and it was just me asking joe kim noah that so i was reporting a story that

2:17:47PFT Commenter:came from this podcast as confidently factual information i sometimes i re-watch the clips

2:17:54Big Cat:so if there's like a time when max gets really mad yeah and i feel like i didn't get the great i didn't get the best angle on it from this seat i'll watch back to see the video of that not that max would ever get mad it's it's audio is also not bad that often no it's not no i'm saying like but sometimes there'll be somebody that says hey the audio sounds bad in this one part so i'll just check in and or if like hank falls asleep during the show i don't catch it

2:18:16PFT Commenter:I'll go back watch the clip of that yeah it's also funny watching uh watching like you watch one clip in your whole life maybe two well I said if that happens I watch I watch uh it's always interesting when I see old clips pop up of like the old studios that that always like our first first studio that was just a shared studio that was just bare walls it's like damn this is cool

2:18:41Big Cat:we've come pretty far away sometimes if I felt like I was being gaslit by you guys and then I wake up, I try and go back and hear what the listeners are listening to and then see if I was right in my delusional.

2:18:53PFT Commenter:And how often are you right? 50-50. Okay. Max, do you watch back your own clips? Never.

2:18:58Big Cat:Literally never. And people have been resurfacing. The Phillies one just keeps coming up recently. Oh, it's so dangerous. And I can't scroll past it quicker.

2:19:09PFT Commenter:Oh, I love that clip so much. They look ridiculous!

2:19:14Big Cat:All right. At what age do you have to take down the second TV in the living room? Oh. I'm 27 years old. I got a second TV hung up so my fiance can watch a reality show with Bluetooth headphones while I watch Red Zone and we still hang out together. It slowly turned into a second TV for me, and now I have one main game and the Octobox going all at once. At what point do I have to take down the second TV?

2:19:36PFT Commenter:You got to get a third TV. Yeah, you got to even it out. That's all it is. It's not that the second TV is not the problem. Well, it is a problem in the fact that it looks weird. So then you got to get the third TV. They're going to go one on top, two on the bottom that are smaller or one in the middle, two on the side. And you got to make it look classy. You can't have the second TV be free.

2:19:55Big Cat:You can't make it look classy in the living room.

2:19:56PFT Commenter:No, you got to go from dive bar to Chili's. You don't even have second TV in your living room. I have in my living room. I have one TV, but then my basement, I have five.

2:20:05Big Cat:But the living room. At what age do you have to take on the second TV in the living room? I guess this is what I did question of. do you just have a living room or do you have like a family room or a secondary room? Cause if you just have the one room, I don't think you ever, if it's like an apartment or condo, I don't think you ever really have to take that down. If it's a house, then you just have to migrate the second TV to the auxiliary rooms, like a basement or family room. Cause I say they don't have a auxiliary room in Brooklyn.

2:20:31PFT Commenter:I always had three TVs in the, in the living room. But when you get a little more space, you have a basement, you can make the TVs rooms spread out.

2:20:41Big Cat:for argument's sake, there's no second room.

2:20:44PFT Commenter:You gotta have three TVs. You gotta go to the third. And then you gotta go to the fourth and then the fifth because you gotta keep it even.

2:20:51Big Cat:Actually, you gotta keep it odd. I've been... So, I'm not supposed to have a second TV in my living room, but I've been looking into getting a... You could say you are supposed to for work. Correct.

2:21:04PFT Commenter:We're like the only people who can actually justify having a Chili's in our living room.

2:21:09Big Cat:But have you seen these wireless TVs that they have? It's on a stand that you can roll around.

2:21:14PFT Commenter:You want one? Do you have one? Wait, so are you saying that you're going to basically be a substitute teacher? Yes. And roll in with a TV?

2:21:22Big Cat:Correct. Because my guest room doesn't have a TV in it right now. So I was going to be like, oh, I got a TV for the guest room. So when people are over, just so I can roll it out when I really need to watch a second game. Yeah. But then I can roll it back after the fact. I got you man That would be awesome Yeah I bought it for like Thinking like if I was Going to watch like A college football game On my balcony Never It's happened like twice And the connection sucks

2:21:50PFT Commenter:And there's spiders

2:21:51Big Cat:And there's spiders Lots of spiders Yeah How's the ice maker going? Great Yeah? Yeah Have you made ice recently? Yeah I did for I should have gave you I should have cubed you up At the air and water show Well you did tell me At the air and water show You said do you guys want To have some ice and then you went to the kitchen, then he came back, he said, okay, it'll be ready in eight hours. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was uncubed. But that... I said, what if I come back to your apartment? It came out as a good batch. I said, what if I come back to your apartment after the MMA fights, UFC, and then you're like, no, that's actually too long.

2:22:24Big Cat:I won't have ice anymore. We missed the window. You have like a one-hour window to get your cube out. Yeah, no, I got some cubes. Again, like I don't drink at my house. Like I don't make drinks or cocktails at my house. So that's where it's like maybe was a bad investment. But the cubes themselves, phenomenal.

2:22:40PFT Commenter:Yeah.

2:22:41Big Cat:Okay. Hey, guys, I know you said Mr. Pear would pick every NFL game, but from an outsider's perspective, you guys take phenomenal care for him. But he deserves to be with other turtles outside the office, and you should unadopt him. Thoughts? I've thought about that. Mr. Pear is depressed.

2:22:57PFT Commenter:Yeah. So we have a little bit of a Mr. Pear problem. We added some desks. Hank took Mr. Pear's seat Hank's desked up we have we got a turtle that I think we need to rehoming and we need an AWL to step up be the parent that stepped up the dad that stepped up and take Mr. Pear and then that way we can maybe you can send memes some proof of life videos every now and then being like he's doing well so if anyone in the Chicago area is looking for a once gambling turtle let us know If you have a farm upstate I just realized my kids like Mr. Pear So that's going to be a tough one He's all yours No, no, no, God no I don't want a pear Or a turtle Why?

2:23:44PFT Commenter:Because I have enough shit I have to worry about in my life I don't need a turtle

2:23:50Big Cat:It's a good experience for the kids Very easy to take care of

2:23:54PFT Commenter:Stop this I will just tell them that Mr. Pear sucked at picking games And we had to shoot him in the back of the head It's an easy conversation

2:24:01Big Cat:Memes, as the guy that really looked after Mr. Pear the most, are you going to miss him?

2:24:04PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah. You should take him. No, my apartment's not big enough. You're not going to miss him that much. Yeah, no. All right, so, yeah, please. You can own a D-list turtle. Yeah, that's being generous.

2:24:21Big Cat:I don't know. Name a more famous turtle. Squirtle? No, like real-life turtle. You like that, Zach? Raphael. Not real-life. Leonardo. That's a good pool. Michelangelo. The guy in Galapagos? Lonesome George R.I.P. Yeah. I mushed. Oh, yeah. The day I was supposed to meet Lonesome George, the oldest living thing on planet Earth, he died. Teddy Bridgewater. Franklin. Yeah. You guys just keep naming turtles that don't exist.

2:24:49PFT Commenter:Donatello?

2:24:50Big Cat:Doesn't exist.

2:24:51PFT Commenter:What about Shredder? Shredder was not a turtle. Shredder was not a turtle. Oh, my God. You fucking bitch.

2:24:57Big Cat:I didn't watch it. Yoshi. Yoshi? Yeah. Yoshi's a turtle? Yoshi's... He's a dinosaur. He's a dinosaur, yeah. But there are turtles in Mario. Oh, yeah. Turtle shells. The blue turtle shell sucks. Great game. Blastos. The blue turtle shell rocks. It sucks. That's because probably you're playing from behind.

2:25:14PFT Commenter:I thought you didn't play Mario Kart. I thought you played Zelda. No.

2:25:16Big Cat:Wrong. I said I didn't play Mario Kart N64, and then it got better. Diddy Kong.

2:25:21PFT Commenter:Oh, Diddy Kong.

2:25:22Big Cat:I played Mario Kart on Wii.

2:25:23PFT Commenter:All you guys playing Mario Kart with your friends are...

2:25:25Big Cat:We're done with N64 talk.

2:25:26PFT Commenter:Okay. So we need someone to please adopt Mr. Pear Hit up memes Hit me up And then Zach's gonna dress up as a turtle in the fall and pick games And also Maybe PMTV Zach and memes You gotta do like Adoption interviews Make sure that the person is a good parent Couple people No Whoever wants them Is there like a turtle rescue place

2:25:56Big Cat:Yeah, they're not accepting turtles. We looked into that. Oh, they aren't?

2:25:59PFT Commenter:What? How are they a turtle rescue place? They're not accepting turtles. That's certainly a job.

2:26:03Big Cat:They're a reptile rescue, but the only reptile they do not accept is turtles because of the amount of inquiries that they get. It's not a turtle. A lot of these places either have turtle policies or since he's a Russian tortoise, he's considered an exotic and a non-native species. So a lot of policies preventing Mr. Pear from going to shelters. Can we deport him? Wait, you guys looked into this? Yeah. Memes didn't know. I don't think we have memes. We kind of made the decision before you came in yesterday. Zach, what if you took Mr. Pear with you next time you went to Florida? I can't have any pets at my apartment.

2:26:35Big Cat:I'm not sure. I could try to travel with a Russian tortoise, so I just don't know if he would survive the heat. I also feel like Florida is also not Russia. He would die in the Everglades.

2:26:44PFT Commenter:Florida is not Russia. Good point, Max. Zach goes to Russia. That'd be a pretty good video. Just a drop off eternal.

2:26:54Big Cat:How about Operation Pear Drop? And we fly a small drone over Russia and then drop him out in a little plastic turtle parachute. So you could do it from the flight sim? Oh. I could. Yeah. I have two questions. Are you going to do another life episode? They're some of the best all-time episodes. And have you thought about adding another Blake? Relegation may have to be in the cards after Brooke's performance last few years. I mean, he's preparing for... He's out of the country.

2:27:19PFT Commenter:Yeah, it's not the best time. For a major championship.

2:27:21Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah, scheduling issues. Somewhat of... You got to give him some slack there. We can overlook Blake's tardiness in that he's – the time difference is huge too. Not only is he preparing for a tournament, but he's also like overseas every year. We got to figure out a way to make it even. Yeah, we could just do it not last minute. That's true. Like we always do.

2:27:41PFT Commenter:That would be nice of us.

2:27:43Big Cat:Blake Griffin, like he's great at answering his phone.

2:27:45PFT Commenter:Yeah. Life episode, we should do another one. Maybe we get Rosillo and Titus here and we can do one. Maybe for – maybe we throw one in, yeah, like one of our breaks. that would be good okay before we get to lottery ball Jackpocket it's time for this week's lottery ball segment presented by Jackpocket the app that lets you order official lottery tickets right from your phone right now Powerball is over$800 million heading towards a billion and Jackpocket's running their biggest giveaway ever talk about convenience and good timing the giveaway is called the Jackpocket winnerverse and they're giving away $250k in lottery credits that's 2 ,500 winners and$100 in lottery credits each.

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2:29:10PFT Commenter:Three was up there. Oh, okay. What do you guys got?

2:29:14Big Cat:I'll take 90. 22. I forget. I'll take 100. I was thinking about that. I was looking at it the other day. I was like, no one takes 100. I'll take 76. 26.

2:29:30PFT Commenter:That was a hiccup. Memes, do you think you're going to get it this time? Maybe. Oh, Shane, get in real quick. Shane goes back to back. Shane. 17. 17 for Shane. 19. 19 for Jack.

2:29:45PFT Commenter:18. Split the difference on him. 18

2:29:51Big Cat:So close Didn't get it Not really that close They didn't get it Love you guys

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