Trevor Lawrence, Mt Rushmore Of Worst Places To Be Violently Hungover, HR Derby Picks And We Get Zac A Date With A Fan

8:07PFT Commenter:Try to grow the game, Max. People want to watch him.

8:10Big Cat:This guy throws the ball so fast, so hard, and he's had a great start to his career. I'm a Miseryowski guy. I don't even know how to say his name. I'm not because the Brewers are good again. Misery business. Whatever it is, this guy's fun to watch.

8:26PFT Commenter:By the way, I just want to say as a side, for anyone who ever thinks that Max is doing some type of bit, I can attest he's not because he was screaming about Ranger Suarez's ERA in the pool yesterday when we were hammered, and it was way too loud for everyone around. He has a 194 ERA. So this is who he is all the time. Yeah.

8:45Big Cat:All the time. But who's going to tune in to watch Ranger Suarez over Misery? Not me. Not me. Mizrowski is... He puts asses in seats.

8:54PFT Commenter:I don't even think we're tuning in because we're going to be doing our home run derby.

8:57Big Cat:That's right. But if I were to tune in, it would be because of Misurirowski.

9:01PFT Commenter:Yeah. Dude, he's got a 2-8-1 ERA. That's pretty good. In five games. Anti-Polish. Suarez has a 1-9-4 in 13 games. 33 strikeouts. Listen, Max, it's the All-Star game. It's a popularity contest. They're trying to add someone. It's not a vote. So they're like, let's add the guy that will get a pop. That's what they're doing. You can't blame MLB for doing that. They're trying anything to get more eyeballs. they want a phenom in there. Five starts is insane. You can just root for him to be bad, and then you'll look at him. I now hate this guy.

9:36Big Cat:I now want this guy to be the biggest bust in MLB history. Also, in the All-Star game, they're going to have the automated ball strike system. Oh, okay. So we're going to get robot umps for the first time in the All-Star game.

9:47PFT Commenter:Wait, are the real umps going to be there?

9:49Big Cat:I think they're going to be there, but they're going to use the AI system. Got it. Yeah.

9:53PFT Commenter:All right, so yeah, that's our MLB. And then, yeah, we had the draft. The baseball draft. Which is always fun because it's like you draft a guy and then you have to hope that he'll sign.

10:02Big Cat:Yeah.

10:03PFT Commenter:You draft a high schooler and be like, please come take this money.

10:06Big Cat:The Nats had the first overall pick. I think everybody expected they were going to go with a pitcher from LSU or they were going to go with Holiday.

10:14PFT Commenter:Yeah.

10:14Big Cat:There's another Holiday. They went with neither of the two. In fact, if you had bet on them this morning, I think one of them was like plus 200. The other was like plus 300. and the guy that they ended up drafting, Eli Willits, was in the any other player category. Oh. After there were like seven players that they listed. Oh. So then I had to do a crash course on why. I had to learn why in baseball you don't always draft the best guy if you have the first overall pick.

10:37PFT Commenter:Because you partially need them to be able to sign.

10:40Big Cat:It would help if the Nationals drafted a player who was not represented by Scott Boris. Correct. Who has just bent them over for the last 10 years repeatedly. So I think we drafted this guy because we're afraid of Scott Boris. And also because we had to pay him.

10:54PFT Commenter:King stay king, Scott Boris.

10:56Big Cat:Big time king. Yeah. Like, put that pelt on your wall, Scott. But apparently you draft a player because you have a set allotment of money that you can give as signing bonuses. So if you take a guy first overall that was projected to go eighth, ninth, or tenth overall.

11:08PFT Commenter:He'll be like, yeah.

11:09Big Cat:Then you can pay him less money, less than the$11 million that was slotted. And then you'll have more money later on to entice high school kids to come play for you instead of them saying, no thanks, I'd rather go to college.

11:20PFT Commenter:Yeah.

11:20Big Cat:That's my general understanding of why you don't always take the best player. Makes sense to me. Weird system you got there, baseball.

11:26PFT Commenter:Yeah, it is a little weird. And there's like 50 rounds.

11:28Big Cat:Yeah, and then I saw who the Phillies got. And the first thing that went through my mind when I saw who the Phillies got was this was the fucking Howie did it again. This is a classic Eagles move. You got one of the best pitchers in baseball that fell to you.

11:42PFT Commenter:And did he have a game in College World Series where he gave up no hits?

11:49Big Cat:Yeah, that was a complete game no-hitter. 19 strikeouts. No-hitter. That's right. Correct. He gave up no-hits. That is correct. This one player pitched nine innings. It is funny. Had nine strikeouts. In baseball, it's like, all right.

12:03PFT Commenter:College World Series no-hitter. That's a memorable one. A holiday. The guy who did the Coke celebration at third base. Those are pretty much the stories. Yep. That's our MLB draft recap. It's good. We crushed it. Do you guys want to talk about Wimbledon? Sure.

12:25Big Cat:Sinner won, and he's a cheater. Sinner is a cheater. It's bullshit.

12:28PFT Commenter:Because Djokovic would have won.

12:30Big Cat:People forget that Sinner cheated, got caught, got put back in. Alcaraz won the first set, and then, you know what? I'm just going to go full on ESPN for this segment. Just pretend this is the NBA Finals. Alcaraz needed to step up in the third set.

12:43PFT Commenter:Yeah.

12:44Big Cat:He didn't step up.

12:45PFT Commenter:No, he didn't have the heart. I also think that if you take out all – I'm counting this as Djokovic's 25th major because he played Sinner better than Alcaraz played Sinner, and Sinner is a sinner, and he's a cheater. So, therefore, ipso facto, Djokovic is the GOAT 25th major Grand Slam championship. That's incredible. Don't you agree? It's fascinating stuff. Yeah. did you guys see the long report about how LeBron is basically being left in the dark by the Lakers

13:18Big Cat:because it was pretty awesome so they told they told Luca that the team was being sold there was

13:23PFT Commenter:a couple stories yeah that was the big one but they did not tell LeBron they did not tell LeBron the team was being sold they also had a meeting after the season ended that was Palenka JJ Redick Luka and Luka's agent and LeBron was not invited and it was basically a meeting talking about who they want who Luka wants to play with essentially LeBron you no longer get to do these things that you've done for your entire career which made sense at the time but I feel like this is heading for I don't think I don't think LeBron's playing for the Lakers next year this feels like it feels like a move that

14:01Big Cat:they they knew that was going to piss LeBron off. Correct. He was going to find out about it.

14:05PFT Commenter:But it also makes sense because they have Luka. They have to start building the team around Luka. LeBron deserves any way that he wants to go out because of what he's done in the NBA and how long he's been so great. But if you're the Lakers, you can't just let him hold you hostage for the last couple years of his career and not try to build a winner around Luka. And he's an expiring contract for the first time in his career this year.

14:30Big Cat:Yeah, and Drake covered up his LeBron tattoo with an SGA tattoo. Really? You see that?

14:35PFT Commenter:No, I didn't.

14:35Big Cat:Yeah, he used to say it was the high school jersey that LeBron wore. He covered it up with like a shitty SGA thing. It looks terrible, but it also feels like something that Drake did just to piss LeBron off. Yeah, that's a change.

14:48PFT Commenter:Well, that's because LeBron danced to Kendrick's Not Like Us. He went to the pop-out five times. Yeah, he went to the pop-out. Wow, what a beef. Great weekend in sports.

14:58Big Cat:Tough off-season. What a great weekend in sport. If Drake covered up my tattoo on his arm, I'd be like, thank you, Drake.

15:03PFT Commenter:Yeah, I appreciate that. But yeah, it does feel like it's maybe over for LeBron in Los Angeles. But where? Cleveland? But where? That's the problem. Where? What if the league retired him? No, I mean, he'll obviously play somewhere. Yeah, I feel like it has to be Cleveland. He can't add another jersey. No. If he does that, that's weird.

15:26Big Cat:Destroy the legacy. It would. That makes his legacy ratio really bad.

15:29PFT Commenter:Oh, his legacy ratio would be tanked.

15:31Big Cat:Yeah.

15:32PFT Commenter:All right. What else? What other big stories happened this weekend? Is there something going on with golf? Yes. People pissed about the Scottish Open or something? The Scottish Open. Were people pissed, golf guy, Hank? People were pissed? About the greens or something? I just saw like Rory was mad, then Scotty was mad. I don't know. Scotty was missing putts. He had some very funny reactions. Like he literally had one where he was shaking his fist. Okay. I don't know. I think when pro golfers play bad, they might lash out a little bit.

16:03Big Cat:Yeah. Or amateur golfers. Yeah, any golfers. But Goddard Up won. Good for him. Goddard Up. I think he might be an AWL. Really? I think he might be. Let's go. So shout out to Goddard Up.

16:15PFT Commenter:Maybe hit him with a DM, Zach. Get your DM warmed up before the end of the show when we DM this chick. Hit up Goddard Up right now. I can do that. Yeah. And just hit him up and be like, AWL? Just feel how it goes. That'd be devastating if he wasn't. Yeah, there's really no sports going on.

16:35Big Cat:Not a lot of sports going on. There was a Katie Taylor-Serrano fight. Katie Taylor won again. It was a good fight. They just punched each other in the face. I don't like the two-minute rounds, though.

16:45PFT Commenter:Yeah.

16:46Big Cat:I don't like that. It doesn't give you enough time to get in the flow.

16:48PFT Commenter:Yeah. There was the jockey race. That was awesome. Jockey race was great. The TV's not even on. I was going to say, the jockey race was sick. What was that, Peru? Yeah. Those guys were so slow. I mean, they're running in, like, if you ever looked, if you ever been on a racetrack, the mud is so much deeper than you realize.

17:06Big Cat:And they put their tiny little legs. Their tiny little legs. It was the most adorable race of ever. We need to have that all the time. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to see them try to eat a hot dog and run 100 yards.

17:15PFT Commenter:Ooh. When's that video coming out? I don't know. I don't know. We did do that. We did. Out in Tahoe. Yeah. And we crushed it. Mm-hmm. All right. We got anything else? This is the worst week in sports. All right. One for who's back. Should we just go to who's back? We can just go to who's back. We're going to do a great Mount Rushmore. I will say, too, Trevor Lawrence is the man. I think we found that out. Whenever we interview someone we haven't interacted with before, we're always a little nervous. Like, does he get it? He got it, and he's the man.

17:48Big Cat:He is the man. Oh, at the actual Tahoe, the American Century Championship, we had Pavelski. Yeah, Badger. Former San Jose Shark. Badger. Pavelski won. John Smoltz, I think, came in second place. Taylor Twelman. Jake Owen was battling.

18:02PFT Commenter:Rich Eisen came in last for men.

18:04Big Cat:Yep. Marty Fish came in, what, like? Top 10, I think. Top 10. 54 points. Charles Barkley played well on Friday. Yeah, he did. I think he shot, what, a 37 or a 38 on the front nine? Yeah.

18:16PFT Commenter:Yeah. I mean, it's a very fun tournament. Rob Mack did not beat Charles Barkley. Not even close. Not even close. We had, we had, Tau's the best. It's not real life. No. It's, it's not, it's just not real life. It's not. Even seeing it on TV, I was watching the tournament today and I was like, watching it on TV doesn't do justice how preposterous of a place that is. Right. Like you can see it on TV and you're still like, if you're there, you feel like you're in a different planet. Max and I went to, on a boat on Saturday and we found a, like a lagoon that had essentially looked like you were in the Caribbean.

18:51PFT Commenter:That's how clear the water was. Actually, oh, we can talk about that, Max, once he gets figured out. We have a question for you guys. All right, go. Just get out of here. Get out of here. Scram. Scram. Beat it. All right, so here's a question before we do the who's back in Mount Rushmore. I hate me. Have you guys... Max is the worst. He's the worst. He was screaming about Ranger Suarez in the bar, and there was, like, kids around. That's really... What the fuck, dude? Really inappropriate. Ranger Suarez has a 1.94 URA. have you guys ever seen and this is maybe going to make Max and I seem like not boat guys and I'm fine with that have you guys ever seen a grill on a boat yeah yeah fuck Akon all the time no I think I've seen it precisely one time okay all right so it's not it's pretty rare yeah I've seen it a couple times okay there's boats that come kind Kind of with the, it's not set up all the time, but you can.

19:48PFT Commenter:Yeah. They did the whole thing. So we were in this beautiful Tahoe lagoon having a great day. And Max and I, and it was like a bunch of us and Max and I were just locked in on watching another man grill. And we were like, to the point where all the women on the boat were like, dude, what are you guys looking at? We're like, we're looking at this grill. Like what he's grilling steak. He's doing it to the point where I got drunk enough that I just jumped in the water and I swam over and I complimented their grill and they just started feeding me food. Just tossing in the water Oh it wasn't your boat No Oh No it was another guy Who was parked next to us Like you were a walrus Correct That came up 100 % I didn't get out of the water They were just feeding Max watched this whole thing Yeah They were putting the food They were my best friends now

20:28Big Cat:I was mesmerized by the grill It had like a little stick That you like twisted into this attachment On the boat

20:34PFT Commenter:On the outboard yeah

20:35Big Cat:And it just looked like a little tailgate Tailgate Whoa Tailgate grill Yeah That I mean There was some great smoke coming out of there Great smoke We had fragrances coming from across the lake. And it wasn't like hot dogs. And, you know, it was steak. Like Max was like Pepe Le Pew on the boat.

20:50PFT Commenter:Dude.

20:51Big Cat:There was a lot of women that were also on that boat. And me and Big Cat just couldn't stop looking at the grill.

20:57PFT Commenter:They were booty shaking. We're like, we don't even notice these women. It's the grill. I just want to say that's probably the height of coolness is parking a boat in a lagoon and busting out a grill and cooking steaks.

21:09Big Cat:It's a strong move. And I think most boats don't have it because you can't have a fire on a boat. Right.

21:13PFT Commenter:don't catch his fire you're fucked he had the little propane um and it was so cool it was so cool and like i said i went over and i i just i i was being honest i was like i love you guys yeah no i said i was gonna go over like a seal and i was like i love your guys grilled like you guys want some food i was like yes i do and then you just started throwing meat into the water yeah big i was just catching it and then i almost drowned because i was i was very drunk and i was trying to chew while swimming. Not a great combo. No. All right. That was pretty much the biggest sports weekend story there was.

21:46PFT Commenter:The guy with the grill who didn't recognize us, so he's not even going to hear this. But that guy rocks. It's just the height. I don't know how you can get better than that. That's a good boat. Yeah. That's a great boat feature to have. Great fucking boat. I still don't really understand how it works. Still kind of blows my mind.

22:04Big Cat:I also don't understand why more boats don't have grills because you're surrounded by water. so if it does catch fire okay you got water it's also you never have to get off your boat if you

22:13PFT Commenter:have a grill yeah you have everything there just live at sea yeah he was like what he was he was doing a great job chefing it up and he was just washing his hands in the water in between each course so all right that was a boring story but i really there was not a lot of sports

22:30Big Cat:i watched uh i watched another documentary about the titan sub guy oh yeah which one i'm starting to come around on that guy listen he had a vision he had a vision he was gonna do it and he just said fuck it and then he knew that the sub wasn't gonna work but he also didn't want to ask his investors

22:46PFT Commenter:for more money and he was like fuck it i'm just going down yeah i i i don't know if i i only watched one of the two i think that are out there but i think the moment when um everyone in his company was like hey this is a really bad idea and then he's like all right well you just don't work for me anymore that was it was like this guy kind of rocks anybody that would say hey uh you know that

23:06Big Cat:giant crack that we just heard i think maybe we should look at the hall and see if it's still operable he goes you just don't have an explorer mentality yeah yeah he just fired he just fired

23:16PFT Commenter:everyone who had who thought of a little bit of health and safety yeah you're not dts you're not

23:21Big Cat:down to sub you're out of here uh also the fact that he named it the titan and then went to the titanic and then they asked him on the cbs by the way here's here's how you know how badly things got fucked up with the belichick cbs sunday morning thing yes they interviewed this guy on cbs sunday morning and they asked like all the relevant questions about safety and the guy was like yeah you know uh i i do see uh some irony in the fact that we're taking it uh on a mission to see a ship that they said god himself could not sink and then it sank but i'm telling you this The sub got himself actually.

23:54Big Cat:Couldn't see this one.

23:55PFT Commenter:Not only that, the CBS guy got on the sub. Yeah. He went down with him. Yeah. It's crazy. You're absolutely right. Jordan is actually, yeah, she's better than the Titanic. She's better than, for sure. She's way better than the Titanic. Right, Hank? Way better. Way better than the Titanic. Okay. Let's do Who's Back of the Week. Then we'll do our Mount Rushmore. Then we have an awesome interview with Trevor Lawrence. before we get to who's back of the week. Stell Blue Coffee's new can lattes are here. Crafted with 100 % Colombian coffee, each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors, espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream.

24:31PFT Commenter:And whether you're braving your morning commute or chasing your pup, Stell Blue cans are for those always on the go and for those who care. Stell Blue is more than just great coffee. It's about giving back. I named the brand after my rescue dog, Stella, who inspired our mission to help more dogs find their forever homes. Every purchase supports animal rescue organizations, so when you drink Stella Blue, you're not just fueling your day, you're saving a dog's life. Try the new cans today, taste the difference, and make a difference. All new Stella Blue Coffee can lattes now available at StellaBlueCoffee.com or subscribe on Amazon for 10 % off.

25:08PFT Commenter:Stella Blue Coffee ready-to-drink can lattes are officially available nationwide at Target. That's right. Whether you're making a target run for toothpaste, paper towels, or somehow spending$200 on things you didn't know you needed, stop by the coffee section and see why everyone is turning to Stella Blue. The cans are made with 100 % Colombian coffee, real dairy, real sugar, and contain 190 milligrams of caffeine. They've got dessert-level flavor with coffee-level function. You can choose from espresso sweet cream or espresso cafe mocha. And once you try them, you'll understand why they're the best canned lattes out there.

25:43PFT Commenter:Here's the best part. 100 % of proceeds will go toward our We Brew to Rescue mission in which we're funding the adoption of 1 ,000 pets across the country. Grab a Stella Blue at Target, taste the difference, and make a difference. Stella Blue coffee. Okay, Henry, who's back of the week? Who's back of the week is Derek Lewis. Oh, yeah. UFC fight Saturday night. I was on a bachelor party, so it was like, you know, the last fight of the night, big underdog Derek Lewis, most electric press conferences tk o'd him in the first round big underdog and then uh i mean we we ended up watching all of his all of his greatest hits of of post-game interviews like he's he's one of the funniest hot balls yeah but he was he had he was on the phone with trump right away like right before rogan interviewed him and then he got off he said what trump said he goes you were saying this hoe dude he's electric so funny yeah so so funny you watched the whole ufc card yeah how was the bachelor party give us the whole give us a whole recap bachelor party was good uh i lost every every bet until that one horse racing is tough you were in saratoga oh no horse racing with horse i'm talking about the ufc ufc card uh i mean horse racing and ufc fight betting is pretty similar yeah horse racing you just kind of hope yeah yeah just hit it and hope yeah hit it and hope horse racing i mean saratoga is great it's bachelor party it's a it's a perfect place for a bachelor party feels very old school yes just go in tailgate bring coolers go in and out great time it's a great place because it's saratoga and lexington are the two places you go when you know there's a horse uh weekend because you'll like be in line for coffee and people will be talking about the races like it it takes over the town that's what i love about it i feel like

27:27Big Cat:that's where old football coaches go when they retire oh yeah it's like i'm just gonna track

27:31PFT Commenter:every single day uh wait so what give us the recap of the ufc card this is our this is our ufc expert henry lockwood that was really the notable wise like i'm trying to trying to you know go through my memories there wasn't much else other than i was losing every fight okay okay any other big knockouts any other big storylines they kept showing the commercial for max holloway uh next week and i was like oh is this coming up Tonight? Yeah. And I was like, no, that's next week. Fuck. Okay. I'm excited for that fight, though. Oh, so you're hooked. Who's he fighting? Covington? Okay. Kobe Covington?

28:10PFT Commenter:No. Who's the guy that was at Beer Games? Poirier. Oh. Dustin Poirier's the man. Yeah. Okay. So is Max Holloway. So you're in for next week. So will we have a recap on next Monday's show?

28:24Big Cat:Yes. Of that fight. Michael Chandler was the one who was at Beer Games, by the way. Got it.

28:29PFT Commenter:Oh, Michael Chandler.

28:31Big Cat:But is he fighting Michael Chandler or is he fighting Dustin?

28:33PFT Commenter:He's fighting Poirier. He's fighting Poirier. Poirier's also the man. Louisiana guy. Yep.

28:39Big Cat:Is your recap next weekend going to be just as good as this one?

28:42PFT Commenter:Probably. Maybe worse.

28:47PFT Commenter:Well, the big recap was you saw a commercial. No, Derek Lewis was the recap. Derek Lewis was the recap.

28:54Big Cat:The recap was he gives great press conferences, and then I watched all his press conferences, Which is, yeah, that's a great recap.

29:02PFT Commenter:Good job, Hank. You are now, I think, Hank, Henry Lockwood, UFC expert, would be a good golf guy. You're a niche sport guy. Well, because UFC fans are going to get so mad. Oh, yeah. Well, golf guys get mad, too. They do, yeah. So it's perfect. We'll just get you in those, maybe WNBA. We'll throw WNBA in there. I don't know about that. Oh, I got that one on lockdown. You have some takes on that? No, I don't want to have takes on that. Okay, all right. I like my job. Okay. All right, PFT, your who's back of the week.

29:31Big Cat:My who's back of the week is Uno. Yeah.

29:34PFT Commenter:Yeah.

29:34Big Cat:Uno is back. The card game. So apparently one casino in Vegas is going to be bringing Uno to their card tables.

29:43PFT Commenter:Yep.

29:43Big Cat:So they're going to have three different versions. They're going to have Uno Golf. They're going to have Uno Teams where you play teams of two. And then Uno Show Them No Mercy, which is a bunch of cards. And you win by getting rid of all your cards or by knocking all the other players off the table. but it's going to be a thing called Uno Social Clubs which is going to be awesome because I feel like there are going to be people that go to Vegas that have never played the standard table games that go to Uno and they just absolutely dominate. There are going to be some rookies that dominate.

30:12PFT Commenter:Here's my only question and I can't say I've played Uno a lot recently but is it one of those games kind of like Monopoly where if you played by the actual rules it would just take forever? It can take a long time, yeah. I hate those. Because have you guys ever had that moment where you've had to play Monopoly with someone who actually plays by all the rules, and it literally will never end?

30:35Big Cat:It's not nearly as bad as Monopoly. Right, but it's still... Monopoly can take, like, days.

30:39PFT Commenter:But Uno's also, I think...

30:41Big Cat:No, I don't think Uno can take longer than, like, 30 minutes. Even if you play by all the rules, it's still a manageable game. Yeah, yeah, for sure. We should do a live stream of Uno, like the World Series of Poker. Yeah. World Series of Uno.

30:52PFT Commenter:Yeah.

30:53Big Cat:I bet people would watch that.

30:54PFT Commenter:That was my Who's Back of the Week was World Series of Pokers. I don't know if you guys saw, but I don't understand the poker world, but I do like anyone who's causing a ruckus. And this guy, William Kassif, I believe is his name, the British guy. Have you seen any of these clips? He essentially just he got he got banned from all World Series of Poker events for the rest of the year. That rocks. He finished 33rd. I think he won like three hundred thousand dollars. But there was like this big controversy of guys calling clock on him and he was talking shit to people. He also got a penalty for calling a guy a bitch.

31:29PFT Commenter:I'm in on all of that. That's cool. But this is a problem. From everything I've read, and this is kind of like Hank's UFC, I read maybe eight to ten tweets. So I'm pretty much an expert. I feel like the World Series of Poker is going to do the opposite thing that they should do. They should embrace this guy because these type of people and, like, the Phil Hellmuth, or who was the guy? Matasau? Was that the guy who would yell at people? Helmuth was annoying. Helmuth was annoying. I think Mike the Mouth. Mike the Mouth, Mattisaw, whatever. This is old school poker talk. But you need personalities.

32:08PFT Commenter:You need people that are aggravating. You don't need people who are robots who are playing by an algorithm and just going through it. And he's British. And at least he plays hands. He just doesn't turn in all his hands. Well, so this is the other thing. He didn't show up. He showed up an hour late the last two days, and people were like, why would you do that? Because he's just giving away big blinds. He's like, I wanted to get sleep. I had only slept two hours, and he's like, I just got a better payout because I gave a little donation. And then when I showed up, a few people were eliminated, and I was higher up in the standings.

32:42PFT Commenter:So he's a bad boy. I like that. He's a big time bad boy. Poker needs a bad boy. Yeah, and he was arguing with, I guess, yeah, you can call clock on someone. and then if you get the clock called on you, you get a strike, and then if you get a couple strikes, the clock then becomes 10 seconds as you have time to make a decision.

33:00Big Cat:It's crazy.

33:00PFT Commenter:That's preposterous.

33:01Big Cat:This is one of those things where if one guy does it, it's good to have a bad boy, but if everybody played by that same standard, then it would just completely suck.

33:08PFT Commenter:But he is, from everything I've read, again, 8 to 10 tweets, kind of an expert, he's the only one. Everyone else is a robot algorithm who plays the mincees. They fold everything. They only play the hands that are statistically guaranteed. It's not poker. I want to watch some swagger. I want to watch some bluffing. I want to watch some table talk, some shit talking.

33:31Big Cat:I missed the World Series of Poker back in the day when they had the guy that just wore the reptile glasses. Moneymaker. No, Fossil Man. Fossil Man. Yeah, yeah. Just rocked the reptile glasses at the table.

33:40PFT Commenter:Yeah, Fossil Man was awesome. One of those guys, Moneymaker, one of them did something. Well, no, maybe they didn't. Eh, poker. Either way, I think I stand with this guy. Because I saw enough positive, hey, he's not doing anything wrong. There was a couple negative, but I just ignored those. Cassif is his name. William Cassif. He's a British guy. Yeah, I say free Cassif. Yeah. He hadn't slept at all. He was going to... They even said that they're like, haven't you slept like four hours in the last three days? And do you really think that you should be trying to make these arguments with the casino staff?

34:15PFT Commenter:And he's like, listen to me. I'm locked in as I could ever be. He's just going a mile a minute. I'm going to. I think he might have been having like a little bit of a breakdown, but that made it interesting. I am not.

34:24Big Cat:I'm going to boycott the rest of the World Series of Poker this year.

34:26PFT Commenter:And all the satellite tournaments.

34:28Big Cat:And I would have watched every single second of it. Yeah. When is it over? Never. Is it still going on?

34:33PFT Commenter:It's still. Yeah. All of July. Let me see. Okay. World Series of Poker. I'm implementing a self-boycott. All right. Hold on. I'm going to tell you how many people we got left. Because then they just sit there and they just, they fold and they fold and they fold and they fold. All right. filibuster real quick while I find this. I wonder if Phil Ivey's in. Is he still in? Does he play poker? No.

34:53Big Cat:He's out?

34:54PFT Commenter:Oh, Ethan. One month trial, Ethan outlasted him. That's nice. Yeah. Payout calculator. This is... Their website sucks. Okay, no. This is part of my boycott. He lost two BBs, Queen, Jack, King. Who? What? I don't know. I enjoy... I don't follow poker at all, but I enjoy seeing when our people work there and they do these breakdowns of their hands, which make no sense to me. He got Riverd. But it's very funny just hearing poker guys do poker talk. It's like, yeah, you know, I had a good hand, but then I got two BBs versus six and a queen, and the river flushed me out. Sounds like he caught the turn.

35:32PFT Commenter:Nothing like that. Yeah, that was part of it. He lost on a bad hand, I think. I don't fucking know.

35:37Big Cat:I actually think that hearing people describe their poker beats might be more boring than hearing people describe their dreams.

35:43PFT Commenter:Oh, yeah. What about someone? There's the reason I can't get enough of it. What about someone describing shot by shot their hole?

35:50Big Cat:That's a pretty bad one. I love that stuff.

35:53PFT Commenter:Yeah?

35:55Big Cat:That's pretty bad, unless you've played that course. Yep. Because then you get to be like. And you can visualize it. Yeah, no. Then you respond with, well, when I was on that hole, I remember that tree. That was a great par.

36:04PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right, I can't find it. Whatever. It's still going on, and it's going to go on forever, and it's never going to end. But free William Kassif. Sure, yeah. Zach, your Who's Back of the Week.

36:16Big Cat:my who's back of the week is going to be counter-strike cases, specifically opening them. After a couple of weeks ago, Nate shot Tim Tatman went about 3 ,200 cases in a row without pulling a gold item. So they decided, okay, what we'll do is we'll just go for it. How much money is that?

36:31PFT Commenter:I love your who's backs because I try to take in as much, but I already have a million follow-up questions, but keep going.

36:38Big Cat:From my understanding, from what you've said already, it sounds like something happened to Tim the Tatman that made him look like a loser. so this is no no loser activity these are all big winner activity well great activity fun activities good activities with the boys so on a redemption arc nade shot timid tatman oni pixel xqc aero cs3 sparkles and tdmh jesus that's the sixth man who competed in it i did i did uh mostly watch a nade shot stream but they went uh csgo case unboxings 59 590 thousand in cases they unboxed. Okay. Unprecedented territory is what we're approaching there. What is it?

37:17PFT Commenter:Is it cards? It's card-breaking, but a video game. What do you mean? It's basically buying a pack of cards inside of the game.

37:25Big Cat:And they're just called cases. Sounds like a lucrative hobby.

37:28PFT Commenter:And then what do you do when you get one that's good?

37:30Big Cat:So the thing is, there's a marketplace. So in these cases, you're looking for... So there's different levels, right? So like white, light blue, blue, purple, pink, red, gold. like on a scale. And then also there is like where, like the wear of the item comes into play. So like factory new or like heavily worn. These are in the game. These are skins in game. Yes. But you can get one that's not necessarily meant. A hundred percent. Do you send it off to get graded or it tells you right? It tells you there's a decimal point system where it tells you how heavily worn this item is. Usually you want to go for the least worn, want to go factory new, but sometimes when they're really worn, they start to change colors.

38:07Big Cat:It's a whole thing. It's gets a little vast. When I said loser about Tim the Tapman, I should probably rephrase. I liked him a lot, but it's very funny when he's doing something and then he gets sad. I think it's kind of like people that watch us when our teams lose. Like watching the Dallas Cowboys and Tim the Tapman lose a game. It's kind of funny.

38:25PFT Commenter:By the way, just as a quick break, update. Two dozen players are left in the World Series of Poker. Okay. And that update came from Zach, who has a mic in front of him, but texted me. That was a wrong call. I just got the mic on. my computer just popped up said two dozen players are left and I had to think what are we talking about oh yeah World Series Booker alright back to this

38:46Big Cat:but on the Tim and Tatman note there he did pull the best item of the unboxing he pulled a sticker worth$26 ,000 wow

38:54PFT Commenter:alright dumb it down for me very famous streamer guys unboxing cards inside of a game failed a lot lost a lot of money then got one awesome card.

39:09Big Cat:So they did end up losing quite a bit of money, about 80 % of the return. But it was awesome because it was the biggest case opening of all time. And it's more so about the journey, right? It's about watching the ebb and flow of the case openings. It was pretty sweet.

39:23PFT Commenter:Yeah. So how long was the case opening?

39:25Big Cat:This one, I think, went for like 10 or 11 hours. Oh, wow. I believe so.

39:28PFT Commenter:And they're just doing it rapid fire?

39:30Big Cat:Just ripping cases. One guy goes about an hour. Another guy goes. We're looking for golds. We're looking for AKs. AK, AK, AK, please. What's an AK? AK-47. Okay. What about the knife? I thought the knife are good, too. Yes. If you pull a gold, you can get gloves or knives, a nice little cram bit action. There's quite a few knives that go. And these, it does sound, I see where you're coming from, but a lot of these skins can go for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars.

39:54PFT Commenter:No, I'm not judging this. I'm more trying to follow along.

39:57Big Cat:And it is, they are skins. It's a video game card break. Yeah. Do you know what the most valuable thing ever pulled out of one of these packs was? I don't know off the top of my head what it was, but I do know it was roughly around$1.2 million in my research earlier. I am new to skins as well. I just enjoy watching the streams of the case openings. Got it. And they broke the – it's a fictitious record, but it's the biggest case opening ever, world record.

40:19PFT Commenter:Okay. Okay. So who's back?

40:23Big Cat:I would say Nadeshot's back because he went 3 ,200 cases without getting any golds. Like Nades' lottery ball.

40:30PFT Commenter:Oh, got it. People in the wild. Listen, we need more people in the wild asking us about memes lottery ball because that was fun. It's kind of crazy. There was a lot of people asking, will he ever get it? All right, good. Who's back? Memes, did you appreciate that? It means people care.

40:49Big Cat:Yeah. I appreciate it. Yeah. Don't get mad at it at all. Are you going to be taking their advice? I do take some people's advice. Did anyone give you a number? No. No numbers. People DM me numbers. So what was their advice? if they didn't give you a number. Just get it. That's pretty good advice. Just pick the right number, memes. That's really good advice.

41:09PFT Commenter:It's really not that hard.

41:11Big Cat:Yeah, mainly people just DM it.

41:14PFT Commenter:Just think, what would Nadeshot do? He lost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Is that correct?

41:19Big Cat:He lost several tens of thousands of dollars.

41:21PFT Commenter:Tens of thousands of dollars. But the journey got him to the point where he got the sickest skin case?

41:28Big Cat:He didn't get the sickest. He was just there for the biggest unboxing. So he did spend about...

41:32PFT Commenter:So Nate shot, if we're doing the same, it's just like Hank got it. He lost a bunch of money on the blackjack table, but then you got to watch me win a bunch of money on the blackjack table. Got it. Okay, yeah, yeah. Which is probably fun. Yeah, that's a great feeling. Yeah, that's what memes is going to do. When you lose a lot and then you watch one of your friends win, you're like, yeah. Sick.

41:49Big Cat:But again, that's his job, though. People are watching it. And he's hanging with the boys. Oh, with the boys. He did spend roughly around$95 ,000 and made back$9 ,300.

42:00PFT Commenter:Okay. But he's with the boys. He's with the boys. When are you going to start streaming?

42:05Big Cat:I don't have the I run into a lot of dead air I don't have the capability of constant Does that make sense? Talking? Yes

42:16PFT Commenter:I think you're going to start streaming

42:17Big Cat:I think there will be good chat for you I think we're going to start you streaming I've been telling him since he started on PMT That we've got to get him streaming We're going to play the Marvel Rivals

42:26PFT Commenter:You know what? Zach, maybe what we'll do is We'll play some college football You can play with me and then you can see that it's really not hard to stream.

42:36Big Cat:I appreciate the invitation. I think that could be fun.

42:38PFT Commenter:Yeah. Can you get your feet wet? It's not... I mean, the chat's going to be ruthless, but who cares? No, the chat will fucking love that. Yeah, but you know how it will happen. No, no, no, no, no, no.

42:49Big Cat:It flips so quick, Max. It flips so quick. No, no, no. You know that. You know that. No, the chat is going to love you. Zach, what are your top three video games? All-time, probably Call of Duty, Modern Warfare 2, Call of Duty, Black Ops 2, and then I'm going to go a Pandemic War Zone with my three rounded out. Okay. Which one of those would be best to stream? Call of Duty. Marvel Rivals. War Zone. Yeah, Marvel Rivals. Marvel Rivals. The Rivals is already a thing. You're going to get Smurf. Yeah.

43:16PFT Commenter:I want to get Sharknado all up in your ass.

43:20Big Cat:I also heard that Memes is great at college football as well. Yes. Great at Call of Duty too. Ooh. Hank's in the Cod tournaments, I heard. Yeah. A couple of those. The big boys. You got a double kill. I played with Optic, yeah.

43:31PFT Commenter:Fuck yeah. All right, should we do our Mount Rushmore? Let's do our Mount Rushmore. Hey, Illinois, Stell Blue Coffee's new canned lattes are here and in a store near you. Crafted with 100 % Colombian coffee, each can is a good source of protein and comes in two smooth flavors, espresso cafe mocha and espresso sweet cream. Whether you're braving your morning commute or chasing your pup, Stell Blue Cans are for those always on the go and for those who care. Stella Blue is more than just great coffee. It's about giving back. I named the brand after my rescue dog, Stella, who inspired our mission to help more dogs find their forever homes.

44:09PFT Commenter:Every purchase supports animal rescue organizations. So when you drink Stella Blue, you're not just fueling your day. You're saving a dog's life. Try the new cans today. Head to our store locator on StellaBlueCoffee.com and sign up to redeem a buy one, get one free offer. We're also brought to you by our friends at Hey Dude. we're wearing them all week out in Tahoe we were kicking back with the boys we were hopping flights all summer long one thing's for sure hey dude shoes are coming with you they're the ultimate travel companion easy to pack easy to slip on and off at the airport I know this from experience I was packing them they go right in there the last thing you have to pack and so light you'll forget you're even wearing them no matter where your destination is make sure you're always arriving in hey dude country easy on breathable and so lightweight you'll forget you're even wearing them built for boat rides, backyards, bar hangs.

45:00PFT Commenter:They're perfect for wherever the summer takes you. So whether you're in Tahoe, Toledo, Tallahassee, or just chilling in your own backyard, you're always just one pair away from Hey Dude Country. Personal plug, I wore them on a boat yesterday in Tahoe. Incredible boat shoes. Incredible boat shoes. Hey Dude, they are the best. Head to heydude.com slash barstool and gear up for your next trip. Trust us, you're going to want these along for the ride. Okay, let's do Mount Rushmore. Okay, Mount Rushmore time. It is 11-8. So Memes and Max, PFT and Hank both have 11. Their teams have 11. Zach and I are still looking for our first win of the season.

45:39PFT Commenter:We're still just desperately looking for that. We're in third with eight. We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of worst places to be when violently hungover. Steve Wozniacki, by the way, the king of Mount Rushmore, maybe the lowest vote received of all time. Steve Wozniacki? Oh, Kornacki? Kornacki, yes. He said that, though.

45:58Big Cat:I said it was going to be, we were going to lose. He called that. Yeah, but you guys kept trying. You were way off in your prediction. No, I was. What? And you started out, you're like, I think I know how these things typically play out. You are. That's right. Yes, because I said I was going to lose. You sounded very arrogant, Max. How do I sound arrogant by saying that we were going to lose and then we lost? That is correct. What are you upset about? You diminished me and Hank's Mount Rushmore. I said that we were going to lose and we lost. You also talked a lot about our Mount Rushmore. No, I don't think so.

46:32Big Cat:You are completely... Jesus, yeah, you guys were... You are choosing to remember something that just didn't happen. I know.

46:37PFT Commenter:But I'm saying that our vote got a lot more votes than their vote did on us. Oh, I see what you're saying.

46:42Big Cat:So you got one point and we got one point?

46:43PFT Commenter:I see what you're saying. Yeah. I see what you're saying. You Italian? What? You got... I mean, that was... You're going to Steve Wozniacki. Steve Wozniacki over here. But I was right. You were right. You were right. Listen, it's contentious about Rushmore season. All right, who goes first? I think we do. Steve Wozniacki and Krueger. We go first. We go first. I look like Steve Wozniacki. No, I don't. That's very mean. Hank, it's yours, right?

47:10Big Cat:You guys. Okay. Zach, what do we say? What do we say, Zach?

47:14PFT Commenter:My phone might die, though. Zach, what do we say? Oh, no, nightmare. Stay strong, don't break. Nightmare. Nightmare for me and Henry. Stay strong, don't break. All right. Right. Worst place to be violently hung over. And this, we should preface this, you cannot drink at this place. Yeah. Like a lot of these places, sometimes you might go there and if you can drink, it's not as bad. This is under the guidelines of you're not allowed to drink if you're at this place. Okay, I didn't know those were the guidelines, but okay. But that makes sense, right? Because some places, people are going to be like, oh, well, if you just go there, just have a couple drinks.

47:48PFT Commenter:We took off some – we made choices based on, like, if someone could say, well, you could drink there, we're not going to pick it.

47:56Big Cat:Well, I don't – like, you can't pick a bar and not – like, there has to be, like – it can't be the main reason of that thing is drinking. Like – Okay. Yeah, okay. We're first, right? All right. This will go well. A long flight is our one-one. And to your point, you cannot be drinking on this long flight. Right. But that's not the point of – No, that's right. You know what I mean? That's what I meant. Some people are like, well, if you're hungover on a long flight, just drink. But you can't do that. Right, right, right. I was on a flight back from Hong Kong after I went over there with Donnie to go to the Rugby World Series 7s.

48:35Big Cat:And I was coming down off MDMA, and I got on a flight in Hong Kong, and we flew all the way to New York nonstop. I did not get up to pee until we were on final approach. That's how violently hungover and dehydrated I was. And it was the worst experience of my entire life. That's a good pick. One time I was super hungover, and then I was running late to get to the plane. So I got a burrito and a couple sodas. And then there was a journalist that was sitting next to me that was documenting how hungover and disgusting I was the entire time. That sounds awesome. That sounds great. Yeah, no, that was tough.

49:12PFT Commenter:today today i was in an uber uh to the airport and i farted i thought it was i i didn't realize how bad it smelled it smelled horrible and it was a small uber and i was like oh sorry man turn the window down because like it literally smelled so bad he rolls the windows up and he's like no the ac's on oh and just sat there i couldn't believe it i could not stink i could not believe it just sat there and ate it it was it was it was wild uh it's also a wild move to

49:39Big Cat:pull a heat check on a fart inside of a car i also think it's a while if you're a passenger you

49:44PFT Commenter:should be able to do what you want with the window wow oh with the window yes i said for

49:49Big Cat:sake no no not farting you can't start farting on everyone no no but i feel like if you're the passenger and you want the window down the guy should be like okay yeah you can yeah i'd agree

49:57PFT Commenter:with that i'd agree with that anyway uh i'm gonna go with r11 pft okay funeral okay that funeral's bad funerals funerals bad okay have you ever been violently hung over at a funeral

50:15PFT Commenter:yeah okay not great didn't have funeral bad day but i yeah bad is that why you said you can't it would be it would be a bad place to be hung over

50:26Big Cat:i just can't say that i i i i can relate to that but but theoretically yes yeah for sure

50:34PFT Commenter:Zach what do we want I was I mean we gotta stay strong don't break

50:39Big Cat:I agree you got the list as well right yeah yeah so 4-5 or 1 I'll play well

50:47PFT Commenter:yeah yeah let's go 4-5 alright we'll go easy work just being hungover violently hungover at work is fucking brutal there's just nothing worse when you're just like I have to sit here all day be violently hungover everyone kind of knows you are and it's any situation where you can't lay down and sleep that's really what we're talking about and then this has never happened to us personally but I think it would really really suck I think being violently hung over and waking up in jail would suck really bad yeah that was that was would be very bad

51:25Big Cat:it's not a fun time

51:30PFT Commenter:you think 10 or 3? I thought you were going with it. I thought it was you. I thought this was your Mount Rushmore.

51:36Big Cat:Wait, what was the first pick overall? On a cross-country flight. Long flight, yeah. Okay, so Hank, I think we go with maybe number 2 on our list. You see that? I thought it was Hank's Mount Rushmore. It's our Mount Rushmore. Oh, but you said he had the ball. Yeah, yeah. It's just teamwork. Just go for it. It's just teamwork.

51:54PFT Commenter:Alright, we're going to go with your girlfriend's parents' house.

51:57Big Cat:Yeah, good one. Can it be girlfriend's slash in-laws' house? Yeah, yeah. It was.

52:01PFT Commenter:Yeah. The TV started to work just randomly. Yeah. Now we're just watching a random commercial. Good pick. Yeah, you wake up. Maybe you're in a childhood bedroom, like a brother's room. You're terrified to go downstairs. Yep. You're late. Sucks. You're late. They're already doing something. You just want to. The last thing you want to do is speak and have small talk with your girlfriend's parents. Yep. Agreed. Agreed. Good pick. Good pick.

52:27Big Cat:Our third pick is going to be. Or second pick. Our second pick will be school if you're in college and you just have to go to class for some reason that next day. Terrible, terrible feeling.

52:37PFT Commenter:We had specifically taking a test. Yeah.

52:40Big Cat:Something that you have to be there for and you can't skip it.

52:43PFT Commenter:Yeah. I would be hungover for regular class, but a test would just kill me. What are you laughing about?

52:50Big Cat:I'm laughing at one of 15's answers. Which one? 15. 15's a good one.

52:55PFT Commenter:It's a really good one. Zach had a great one that I can't wait to share. It's not going to make the cut.

53:01Big Cat:Pick number three, a child's birthday party. Good one. Good pick. Just screaming. Okay.

53:08PFT Commenter:I would like to say that I actually, I disagree with this, but this is a personal thing. A child's birthday party is actually not a bad place to be hung over because they have an activity to do. It's a big deal. Like I'm telling, like I'm just saying when you show up to a kid's birthday party. Now, if it was your child's birthday party, that might be different. But personally, when your kid has a birthday party, it's a fucking savior because you just show up and they get to just play with their friends in a confined area and you can just sit there.

53:36Big Cat:This might be a little bit different as like the memes and I are both uncles. Got it. It's a little when you have your own kid, I get that. But like when you're going to like one of your nieces or nephews birthday parties and you're not around screaming kids all the time. Yeah. And then you have to be like, holy shit, this is child overload. I just know personally when my kids have a birthday, it's like, great.

53:58PFT Commenter:Saturday's set because they're just going to go play at this birthday party and I can just chill.

54:02Big Cat:I think the worst profession to go to work hungover at would be a teacher. Like an elementary school teacher. That's when you wheel the TV out. That's when you're watching Magic School Bones. Oh, big time. Big time. Bill. Bill. Bill. Yeah, get ready to learn Bill Nye. All right, PFT, I'm going for it. It's our third pick, right?

54:20PFT Commenter:Yep. We're going to go with a workout class.

54:23Big Cat:Mm-hmm.

54:23PFT Commenter:Mm-hmm. You signed up for it. Maybe your girlfriend signed you up for it. You went out the night before. That's like a choice. You still have to pay, but a lot of time you paid for it already, so you wake up, you're like, well, I already committed to this. Yeah. I'm just going to go and sweat it out, and then once it starts, you want to die. What are you saying? Talk to the mic memes. No, no, no. I'm thinking future pick.

54:46Big Cat:Oh, okay. And sometimes it might be like this is the start of me getting into shape, and you make that commitment the night before. You're like, you know what? I'm going to do it. I'm going to start working out and then you follow through the next day and you get into the class and everyone knows that you're hungover. Okay. Your sweat smells like beer.

54:59PFT Commenter:Okay. Good pick with something similar. All right. So kind of Zach, I think I'm going to go with, I'm going to let you do the last one, but I'm going to go with the one that I think we, we workshop this because we brought up kids birthday. And I explained to Zach that like taking my kids to a birthday and being hungover is not a big deal because you just sit there. But what would be a big deal is Disney world with your kids. that would be hell on earth because then you actually actively have to parent and chase them around and worry about where they're being and stand in lines and eat gross food disney world with kids would be i actually don't think that there's i've never been to disney world as a kid or an adult but i think that i'm that might be the worst place in the world yeah i went once when i

55:44Big Cat:was i think five yeah and all i know about disney world since then does make me seem like it would be a terrible place to be hung over yeah because you also have to pretend to be really excited and

55:53PFT Commenter:happy yeah uh wait zach should we go with eight i just realized eight's still there Well, you're not talking in the mic.

56:01Big Cat:I think 8 is good. I also think 10 is good.

56:06Big Cat:And 13 is well.

56:08PFT Commenter:No, 13 is not good. No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That would blow this draft. We're doing a pretty good job. We're staying strong. We're not breaking.

56:16Big Cat:Okay. You're right. You're right. That was almost a break. Yeah.

56:19PFT Commenter:Yeah. I think we... We go 8, you think? Yeah, I think we just stay... We're staying right in the middle here. We have strong picks. Long car ride Super long car ride Fucking brutal That's a good pick Similar to a long flight

56:36Big Cat:It's just slightly more comfortable than a long flight A little bit more comfortable

56:40PFT Commenter:But then you also have to deal with traffic Which sucks that would be like a delay Yeah Long car ride

56:47Big Cat:No car rides are way more comfortable than There's always a bathroom break on the plane Those things are not always there You can stop whenever. You can't get off a plane. Fight for yourself, Zach. Sometimes you're in traffic. You can't just get out. No, you can't. You can always pull over. No, not in traffic. That's just unsafe. Bottle? It's unsafe.

57:08PFT Commenter:That's unsafe.

57:09Big Cat:Pulling over? What? You can pull over to the side of the road. Sometimes in the traffic jam, there is no pulling over. Don't listen to himself. Don't say that. You know that sometimes there's no pulling over. Are you guys arguing that you can just pull over anywhere? In most cases.

57:22PFT Commenter:Easier to sleep on a plane? if you're you can't go this is wrong and no what i unless you're driving well yeah you could be driving hungover okay fair fair fair but it's part of a long car drive okay there's been many times when i've been hung over and had like five hours to drive and like after like you

57:40Big Cat:a weekend you are not allowed to make this pick you choose to drive over flying almost

57:45PFT Commenter:i love every time but hungover driving sucks i do love driving yeah i do i i appreciate you

57:52Big Cat:fighting for your pick, but I know you don't believe it. I'm fighting for Zach more than anything.

57:55PFT Commenter:He's got to stand up for himself. He's getting bullied by you guys.

57:59Big Cat:Ours was also a 1-1 pick. This is a pick in the fourth round. Both of those things can be true.

58:04PFT Commenter:Can we ask Steve Kornacki? It was a fourth round pick. Yeah, no, it was a great pick. Zach, I liked you trying to say that you can't get out of a car. In some circumstances, you're in.

58:17Big Cat:In the car, you've always got to wear the belt. The plane you literally can't get out of. Wait a minute.

58:21PFT Commenter:You could also take the belt off in a car.

58:25Big Cat:No, but you might have the lights on. You might be middle seat. Maybe they just stopped.

58:28PFT Commenter:I would have taken a different approach, Zach. I'm trying to pull you off to fight for yourself. I like it, too. I like it, too. I can't wait to tell you guys what 13 is. I'm PFT. I like our 13. I like our 8. And I like our 4.

58:45Big Cat:Okay. I like our 7, too.

58:48PFT Commenter:Okay. We'll go 7. Up to you. Balls in your hands. Balls in your hands. Hey, Hank. All right. With our last pick, we're going to go with At Your Own Wedding. Had it on our list. Had it on our list. Tough hangover. Brutal hangover. But you can remedy it because you're going to start drinking again. But yes. Eventually, but you have to battle. It's supposed to be a great day. You have to do a lot of talking. Small talk to everyone.

59:13Big Cat:We had it on our list. Good chance that you pass out. It's a good pick. I'm addicted to watching the compilations of people passing out at weddings. Yeah, they don't bend their knees. You lock up, yeah. Okay, Max? Our last pick will be a sports practice. Okay.

59:32Big Cat:Memes and I are both college athletes. You guys wouldn't really get this, but... I played football. Played rugby. It's like the worst feeling ever when you try to be a normal college kid, and then the very next morning you have to go get screamed at, run for days. I realized I was not going to be a college athlete was that fall ball hungover yeah it's the worst feeling in the world I have one story where I got super drunk in New York City came back the next day I was so drunk that someone told me to get a job because I was trying to bum a cigarette off the street from someone in New York and they thought I was homeless and then I went to practice the next day playing first base and I took a ball straight to the chest which is almost impossible to do when you're playing first base It's very hard to do.

1:00:17Big Cat:It didn't hit my glove and somehow went straight and just crushed me in the chest. Damn. My friends on my team will remember this right now. It was a tough day. Shout out to boys. But it's kind of like the workout class, but there's 0 % chance of skipping. You just can't skip a practice when you're an athlete.

1:00:36PFT Commenter:Do you guys want to know what 13 was for Zach? Yeah, I do. Laser tag.

1:00:40Big Cat:Laser tag would suck. I think it would suck. Laser tag sucks anyway. No, laser tag's fun.

1:00:46PFT Commenter:No, it isn't. No, laser tag rocks. Laser tag's fun. When's the last time you guys played laser tag? It's too long. Exactly. Yeah, we should do it. I think we should be more successful. Yeah, I feel like we should make a video playing laser tag. They always suck. Let's go play laser tag this week. Paintball exists.

1:00:59Big Cat:Yeah, but then it's the competitiveness of paintball without having to worry about being hurt. My favorite part of laser tag is when they sit you in the pre-briefing room and the teenager paces back and forth and fart you like a drill sergeant telling you the rules. That's the absolute best. You will not run in the arena.

1:01:17PFT Commenter:The one I was trying to work my head around that kind of is too long to explain, but I think is a really, really bad one, is when you are on vacation and you're hungover and you have a late flight, but you have to check out. So you're basically homeless. You're like seven hours hungover. Maybe even having to wheel your bag around. Like, oh, we can go get lunch. And then you look at your clock. You're like, I still have five more hours before I have to be at the airport. that's a terrible place we're gonna just find a place to sit down and read for a little bit because all you want to do when you're hungover is lay down it's like you were given you had a

1:01:51Big Cat:bed and you had to give it up sneaky there are some vacation hangovers that that would make this list i think so obviously figure out a word yeah if you're at a beach an exercise vacation or yeah if you have an activity yeah on the vacation yeah you're doing a hike or you're going to see a museum yep whatever that would be that's a bad hangover um all right what else for honorable

1:02:10PFT Commenter:mentions so i had so opposite of the the kid's birthday we we dizzy world i feel like was stronger pick but parenting with no set plans is a really bad hangover like really bad where you don't have anything planned for your kids on a saturday or sunday and you're hungover that sucks because then you're just like what the fuck do we do we had uh at the super bowl sitting in direct sunlight watching your team lose yes that would be a bad hangover yes we had we had uh we'd getting pub stomped with your boys yeah that'd be bad hank do you want to do you want to say number 13 because i don't know what this means but i love it behind enemy lines imagine waking up hung over behind enemy lines that would suck that would be horrible that would suck you're absolutely right like worst case scenario like you're hung over and like you want to just go home and you're not only can you not go home you're like kidnapped there's a war yeah yeah you're a prisoner of war people are trying to shoot at you um similar to the one you said about the sun in your light in your eyes uh i think just being hung over like thousands of miles from home after watching your team lose a big game i've had that a few times in my life and it's fucking brutal where you like wake up and you're like now i gotta get home and it's the hangover but it's also just

1:03:24Big Cat:thinking about the loss yep also being super hung over and going into a really big game also can tell from experience. Very bad.

1:03:32PFT Commenter:Actually, my buddy and I once it was like a combo because we had to leave our hotel after the Rose Bowl and we just walked to LAX like 15 miles because we're like, we have nine hours till our flight and we just walked. And it's not a walk you should do.

1:03:47Big Cat:We had in Hank's hotel room the morning of the Super Bowl with puke on your shirt. We had that one too. Me and I almost just did all of my bad hangovers.

1:03:58PFT Commenter:Oh, you remember when you lost your phone?

1:03:59Big Cat:Yep, that was the same day.

1:04:01PFT Commenter:I'm surprised court wasn't put out there. We had court. Court would be bad.

1:04:06Big Cat:We had DMV.

1:04:07PFT Commenter:Church. Yeah. I also thought... Zach said gender reveal party. Yeah. Would suck. Well, I feel like that's... Okay. Yeah. You're going to get some adrenaline.

1:04:19Big Cat:That's just like a party.

1:04:20PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:04:20Big Cat:You're going to get an adrenaline boost.

1:04:22PFT Commenter:Yeah. Contact sports. Contact sports.

1:04:25Big Cat:I thought about this just now, but at like a doc like a like a physical and you have to explain to your doctor how much you drink in a week while you smell like booze that would be tough uh we had at a really loud brunch yeah

1:04:40PFT Commenter:so we thought of that yeah but then we're like that's a drinking activity it's kind of a drink

1:04:44Big Cat:but there's always somebody at the at the brunch that is violently hung over especially if it's like a big group trip and you it's always the worst experience for them yeah we we literally discussed that one and we're like but you'd have to be drinking uh just outside on a sunny sunny

1:04:58PFT Commenter:day with no sunglasses yep how about where you are how about this one because i was thinking about this one i i feel like it would be hell on earth but also you're like you kind of sign up for it outdoor music festival one that you like a bonnaroo yeah where you sleep over but you then have to deal with porta potties like you're up at 6 a.m yeah you just gotta get drunk again again Dentist We've done that, almost puked That's a good one On a bus Bus ride is pretty bad Moving Moving is a good one You can plan better than that But I have definitely moved hungover And it's bad

1:05:37Big Cat:Do yard work hungover?

1:05:40PFT Commenter:That one is not Yard work kind of gives you a little fresh air But yeah, that would be bad Depends on what type We're talking like Bagging leaves Like that's You know That kind of fun You jump in the leaf pile Trimming trees

1:05:51Big Cat:I think mowing the lawn Would be okay Yeah I was super hungover At my own graduation In college Yeah That was not That was not fun

1:05:59PFT Commenter:That's everyone

1:05:59Big Cat:Yeah Just sitting Listening to the most Boring person in the world Talk I didn't go to my College graduation I graduated in the winter And I told my parents There just wasn't A winter graduation And there was Yeah it was

1:06:10PFT Commenter:There was Let's see We did laser tag. Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is a tough hangover day. And that is one that everyone's hungover for. Like having to be with family all day. You just start drinking again. But it is kind of a tough one.

1:06:30Big Cat:I never understood why Wednesday was so much bigger of a night than that Friday. Yeah. That Friday seems like a much better idea.

1:06:36PFT Commenter:Yeah. In a random person's house. That's happened. Mm-hmm. Sure. Yep. You guys have had that. Yep.

1:06:45Big Cat:Oh yeah Girlfriend's roommate's bed That was another one that me and wanted us to pick That's a good one That was a tough one

1:06:51PFT Commenter:I once slept in an abandoned frat house in Charleston, South Carolina On a bachelor party That was not fun It was so cold I've never been more cold in my life Did you have a blanket? No It was abandoned Just on the ground? Yeah I was sleeping like on the ground So we just We couldn't get back It was before Ubers We couldn't get back to the house And we were just like Fuck it We'll just try to sleep here And then I woke up and I was shivering when I woke up.

1:07:15Big Cat:That's very spooky.

1:07:16PFT Commenter:Yeah, it was not good. I'm not proud of it. Shout out to House. I don't even know what it was.

1:07:22Big Cat:I had Qatar on my list. Yeah. Not a good place. Not a good place.

1:07:28PFT Commenter:Escape room, Zach said. Yeah.

1:07:31Big Cat:It should be difficult. No, I actually think that's a great. Yeah. Be spinning. That's a really good one. Any sort of team building activity. Yeah.

1:07:39PFT Commenter:Yeah. The hospital. The hospital. Good pick. Yeah. Museum with kids. Museum, just in general, is terrible. Any place you have to stand. Shopping. Shopping. Oh. If you have another. Yeah. Terrible. Like an Ikea trip or like a Home Depot trip. The container store. I don't understand the container store.

1:08:02Big Cat:Don't get it.

1:08:03PFT Commenter:Terrible. All right. I think we got a good list. Amusement park. Amusement park. Yeah. That was our Disney World kind of. Yeah. The Gravitron. Yeah. Steve Wozniacki.

1:08:14Big Cat:The gambling cave? Why do you... After Tua throws an interception and Frank's in town? Oh, that's a good one. That's a really good one. That's a good one.

1:08:21PFT Commenter:That's relatable, too.

1:08:27PFT Commenter:It is champagne problems. Being in the gambling cave hungover sometimes can be hell. Yeah. What about the U.S. Open in the gambling cave when you fall asleep for the most important holes? That wasn't even a hangover. Oh, really? That was just a nap? That was just a healthy body. That was just you on your mudang shit? Yeah. You got to get a solid eight. Don't wake Hank up. He's mudang. All right. Yeah, Steve. What do you got?

1:08:55Big Cat:I don't know. I'd have to see the graphic. I don't have any strong opinions on this. I also don't want to get into a habit of doing this after every Mount Rushmore. But I like Memes and Ice Picks.

1:09:06PFT Commenter:Okay. All right. Kind of soft. Yeah, that's really soft. Incredibly soft.

1:09:10Big Cat:Sounds like you don't have conviction. No. Well, I mean, I had a conviction, and then I was right, and you still got angry about it. I'm not angry at all. I'm not angry. Who's mad? You texted in the group. That was a scheduled text. I scheduled that text. For what reason? Just check in. I thought if something happened in the Phillies in the trade deadline, that was bullshit.

1:09:33PFT Commenter:Yeah, you were duped on that one.

1:09:36Big Cat:But, I mean, that happens a lot in the chat of when one of our teams makes a big move. It's like, hey, congrats. I had no service where I was at, so I couldn't... Twitter wasn't reloading, but I was still receiving texts. It was a bad spot. It was something so stupid like that. I don't give a fuck. It's a great way to fuck with your boys, though. No, that is a good way to fuck with your boys.

1:09:59PFT Commenter:Wait, what is this text you sent us? Zed us never dead? That was the night that I was super fucked

1:10:04Big Cat:up and then had to go to practice the next day. That was the night that people thought I was homeless.

1:10:10PFT Commenter:All right, let's do our interview with Trevor Lawrence. Really, really cool guy. He's the man. So great interview with Trevor Lawrence. And then on the other side of Trevor Lawrence, we'll finish the show. We're going to get Zach a date.

1:10:23Big Cat:Before we get to Trevor Lawrence, he's brought to you by Chevy. Chevy knows you grind all year. You've got early mornings, late nights, fantasy drafts. Hustle mode is on. But when summer hits, it's time to chill. And Chevy Silverado makes all that possible. We're talking towing the boat to the lake, off-roading in the woods like a legend, and still having room for the squad and all your gear. Inside, Silverado's comfy like a recliner. On the outside, it's built like a linebacker. It's built like a fullback. Chevy Silverado, work hard, chill harder. Football guy approved. Head to Chevy.com to check out more about Chevy Silverado.

1:10:56Big Cat:Chill harder with the Chevy Silverado. Trevor Lawrence is also brought to you by Fruit of the Loom. Fruit of the Loom was a big sponsor. our chill week last week. We rocked them all week in Tahoe. If you tuned into Wednesday's episode for Hot Seat Chill Throne, you might have seen us wearing some Fruit of the Looms. For some reason, we know guys hold on to their underwear way too long. Why? Who knows, but we all do it. But when a fresh, comfortable, well-designed pair of Fruit of the Loom costs less than your morning coffee, there's really no excuse. Refresh your underwear drawer today with well-made, well-priced Fruit of the Loom.

1:11:27Big Cat:Fruit of the Loom delivers legendary comfort and iconic style that you can trust. With nearly 175 years of expertise, we craft essentials that feel like designer, but at a fraction of the price. It's time to refresh your underwear drawer with well-made, well-priced Fruit of the Loom. It's summertime. Just do a full underwear drawer reset. Get all new Fruit of the Looms. It's well-made and well-priced. Check it out today, Fruit of the Loom. And now, here's Trevor Lawrence.

1:11:56PFT Commenter:Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is Jacksonville Jaguars starting quarterback, Trevor Lawrence. Trevor, long time coming. I know that we've wanted to have you on for a while. It's good to see you. Let's start with kind of an easy question. How are you feeling health-wise? Because obviously last we saw you, that was fucked up, that hit. Are you feeling okay? Feeling good now. Yeah, I recovered. Thankfully, you know, I'm out playing golf. This is a good sign. So I had left shoulder surgery in December. So between that and then our daughter was born January 4th. So it was like back-to-back.

1:12:33It was crazy for the last few months. But feeling great now. Shoulders all healed up. Ready to go.

1:12:39Big Cat:How does that affect a right-handed quarterback if they have a left shoulder injury? Because we hear about it. I think Baker had one a couple years ago. Yeah. We were like, oh, it's not his throwing arm. He'll be fine. He can go out there. Well, it's like getting hit for one. I mean, that's one obviously big part of it. But I think throwing too. You use a lot of rotation in that left side. You're straining and pulling that side through. So I played against Houston when I got knocked out of that game. I played, and even that game, I had some plays where I couldn't throw it all I wanted to because I couldn't really pull with my left side.

1:13:10So it's just all right arm. So it does affect. I mean, obviously, minor stuff you can get away with and play, and you're fine.

1:13:16PFT Commenter:Yeah. So feeling healthy, that's good. I feel like this is a big year for you. Do you feel that, not pressure-wise, but like, hey, this is a year, Like if I'm going in healthy, I feel like, you know, you got a new coach, offensive minded. Do you feel that or is it just like same as same as every year? You try to treat them all the same. But I mean, realistically, like where I'm at in my career, I'm going to year five, you know, been an up and down so far the first four years for me and just our team and our situation. I've had, you know, this is my third head coach. I've had a lot of turnover, a lot of change, but I really feel good about the situation we're in.

1:13:49And I love Coach Cohen and the whole staff and everyone that's in, all the guys that were brought in free agency, just good dudes, good players too. But I really feel like we've done some great things this offseason as far as just speaking offensively, like the changes we've made, the system we're running, I have a lot of confidence in. This system is, I mean, tried and true. The L.A. and, you know, Minnesota runs it now with O 'Connell, all those teams, and they have a lot of success with it. So it's a great system for quarterbacks. And, yeah, I mean, like where I'm at in my career, year five, like it's time to go and start winning consistently and be not just that team where it's like, you know, you're always like no one really takes you seriously.

1:14:27You know, you want to be that team that's always competing for, you know, playoffs, Super Bowls, and you're in the hunt. Yeah. So that's, of course, that's, I mean, I see it through that lens of like, yeah, it's year five, and, you know, I feel like this is like getting into my prime. Like I got a lot of good years left ahead of me, and I need to really turn it on. And I think what we've built around me and what they've done this offseason has been a great start.

1:14:46Big Cat:Yeah, you guys have some weapons. Defensive back, Travis Hunter. Wide receiver, Travis Hunter. He's our guy. He's our guy. I like the handshake that you guys – Did you guys talk to Travis? I saw something.

1:14:56PFT Commenter:No, so we jet on him to win the Heisman at 40-1 in August, and then we just talked about him on every show. That's pretty awesome. The entire fall. That was a great bet. To the point where our fans hated us for it, but we won the bet. That was a lock. Yeah. He was clearly the best player in college football. Actually, I was looking it up. I actually – we've been doing this Heisman thing for a while where we're like, oh, we have a pretty big voice. we're just going to bet on something and hope we can talk our way into it. I actually think that you might have been the start of it for me in 2020.

1:15:22PFT Commenter:You should have won the Heisman because I went back. You had me? I went back and I looked at my tweets and it's literally like every day I would just be like, oh, yeah, Trevor Lawrence is playing great. He should win the Heisman. I played like nine games that year. We had the COVID year and I missed two. Yeah. So it was like, yeah, it was. Devontae had a great year though. But you finished second place and you weren't too far behind. Yeah. No, that was a wild year. but yeah now Travis is a stud no I had your back there so appreciate that I was all so yeah who gave up the handshake between you and you and Travis so it all started with uh we did an Adidas commercial together and it's a sneak peek I don't know when that's going to come out probably soon um and that was part of it so it was like it's a little bit manufactured but okay yeah he's good at that stuff and I let him dance and do all that uh that commercial was a little bit of that I'm I'm like, all right, he's got it.

1:16:12Yeah. So he's got a big personality.

1:16:14Big Cat:He's got a lot of expectations. I think they said he's a culture changer, but also a sport changer. Like he was going to change the future of football. Have you seen something out of him where you're like, man, this guy, this guy's transcendent? Yeah. I mean, I think that's a lot to think about as far as player. But I will say just my interactions with him, I mean, He's unbelievable as far as the condition and shape he's in. This guy can run all day. He plays DB, he plays receiver. He'll run a post route or whatever and say, we'll miss it or I want to run it different. I'll run it again. Just come right back.

1:16:52And other guys, everyone I've played with, no one does that. It's not shade on anybody else, but it's like no one's trying to run 50 yards full speed again right when they just did it. So it's stuff like that. He's a super hard worker, just a good guy. Like you can tell he doesn't have a lot of like, you know, issues going on and stuff where it's like he's distracted. Like he just seems very focused and like, you know, sticks to himself. He's great.

1:17:15PFT Commenter:Is there any part of you that when you're like training camps coming up, are you going to try to pick on him as a DB so that they're like he's not ready as a DB and he's got to play? I said that. So his first day over at DB, I was like, we're throwing every ball. Yeah. He's pretty freaking good at corner too, though. But, yeah, he's – I mean, it's like a guy like him, he could do whatever he wanted to do. I mean, it's going to be interesting in the NFL, like how much can you play both ways? I don't know. It's been done before, but it's been a while. So, I mean, if there's a guy that can do it, he can do it.

1:17:45But we'll see how that plays out. But, yeah, definitely that first day I was like, I'm throwing every ball at you so you come back to offense.

1:17:51PFT Commenter:Yeah. So, the – wait, no, go ahead. I forgot the question I was going to ask. Fuck.

1:17:56Big Cat:Okay, I got you.

1:17:57PFT Commenter:I had a question.

1:17:58Big Cat:I got it pulled up.

1:18:00PFT Commenter:god damn it he's locked in we no i had it fucking it just escaped me i'm such a fucking shithead we talk about you know when i get it obviously we talk i remembered okay there we go perfect i'll

1:18:10Big Cat:go after okay i feel like i got it in my head i'll keep trevor who would you like to ask this next question that was my next question i feel like you got it he's got it okay he's up all right he's on deck all right so when we have a quarterback on the show we say the things to them that we say on the show when they're not in front of us all right so we have our annual quarterbacks rankings list that we put together last week all right let's hear it where do you think you should be tough question we're doing tough you know if i'm obviously i've only played eight games last year yeah my best season so you're basing off last season yeah right now i mean i think i think i should be top 10 quarterback but where i think you guys have me at do you want that answer yeah i bet you guys have me at 15 up 14 14 but close that's the good quarterbacks tier yeah we listed you as a good okay i appreciate that and we also did the what's the tier below that uh we'll we'll change these rankings from game to game yeah so like jordan love yeah sometimes he'll be great some yeah i can't imagine you spend too much time just thinking to yourself like what number of quarterback am i in the league yeah i usually look at all those and just think about those you know yeah not too much time there's a lot of there's a lot of rankings

1:19:23PFT Commenter:out there i'm sure yeah it's great all right the question i forgot that now i remember better be banger uh why didn't you guys give any space to your dad on draft night you were squishing so tight that was insane yeah i posted it i mean you guys what did you say what was the i said uh you have it i remember this and i was dying it was i mean it was crazy i said can we get trevor's dad a little nut space talk about squeak i mean he was oh my gosh that's like i feel like i'm no disrespect to your dad but you guys basically made it like he doesn't have a penis or balls the way you made him sit well i'm here so i can i think it worked yeah that's true that's true good point but uh dad's just such a nice guy he wanted he's selfless he wanted to give the couch away to you know me marissa my mom is just just a stud it's insane it is that picture's crazy did

1:20:12Big Cat:see it after and you're like oh yeah he's hitting this one right here he's also he's also sitting

1:20:16PFT Commenter:there and you can tell he's not comfortable yeah no you guys squeezed out so did you apologize after no i did i did i think i showed him that after i'm like he was just like shaking his head didn't even say anything yeah i mean that is hilarious that's a great dad selfless man yeah he basically was like i'll just sit here and just you just crunch my sacrifice the nuts for the draft thank god you got picked first imagine if you would exactly imagine if you dropped like the second round and he was just that'd be tough being castrated live on tv all night five hours that's true that is at least you did that for him he hasn't had any more kids since then might have stopped it that's that actually is that's a good that's a good point you do have it you have to talk to him after this to make sure he's all right hey how are you shooting check on him you have a brother by the way yes your brother seems like i i don't know really

1:21:09Big Cat:anything about him besides the fact that he's an artist and he looks way cooler than me and so whenever i'm like that's a guy i could chill with yeah he's i always says like my brother's way cooler than me so we're i mean we're very similar personalities but just different interest and so like he's an artist doesn't care about sports like he'll watch my stuff but like that's it like he probably doesn't even watch the super bowl or anything like that he doesn't watch anything so he's it's cool having a brother like that and we're super close like best friends um but yeah we we talk the exact same but he just looks completely different like when you were growing

1:21:43PFT Commenter:up was there a moment where he was like I'm not into sports anymore because it is kind of crazy to have a NFL quarterback starting NFL quarterback and then a brother who is same size and he's an artist yeah he was so he's four and a half years older than me and my parents knew like my all my whole family's into sports my dad my mom my uncles all of them so they're all into sports my brother they got him into sports when he was young and this is actually a great segue he there's some great stories about my brother and like going to the wrong dugout and baseball games as a kid like playing in the dirt that i remember going to some of his like rec basketball games he's sleeping on the bench coach is like pissed it's like get off he's just like waking up you know so it's crazy stuff so then they eventually were like all right finish the season and then you're done like you don't have to play anymore so he just after i don't know maybe he was like nine or ten he never he didn't play sports well it's a credit to your parents because like to have you know two sons that are that different that's really cool it is it is and he's been very successful him and his wife do art together which is cool they work on all their pieces together so it's like for them to i mean that's a hard it's hard to be a successful artist so they've done they've done a good job so do you have any of his art in your house i do i have a few things i have a huge uh i wish i had a picture i probably do on my phone but like a huge jaguar tiger it's like crossing through this like doorway, like changing from a tiger.

1:23:03It's pretty sick. It matches like the office, like this dark green. It's sick. So he, he gave that or him and Brooke gave that to us a few years ago. So it's awesome.

1:23:11PFT Commenter:Um, I got a tough question for you. All right. It's going to be hard for you to probably explain it. Cause we're just regular guys. Um, Dabo, can you explain them to us? Um, I can try. Yeah, I can try from the outside. You understand he he's quirky, but obviously he's a great coach when national titles, like you, You win a national title with him. He wins other ones. What is it that makes him tick, and what is special about him? He is – first of all, I love the guy, genuinely. I'm not just saying that because I played for him. He is awesome. And I say, too, there's a lot of people – there's a ton of people that love him.

1:23:47There's a lot of people that don't like him just for whatever reason. But what you see really is what you get with him. He doesn't put on a fake personality. That's why sometimes he'll say stuff in media. I remember when I was there and he'd say stuff in the media and people would kill him for it. And he just like doesn't care. Yeah. He's just always honest and just his energy. You know, he's not like a, he's not an offensive coordinator. He wasn't a coordinator. He was a position coach straight to head coach. Went from receivers coach to interim head coach. That was his transition. So he wasn't, he's not like the biggest, he understands the game.

1:24:19He's not a huge X's and O's guys, but he's like motivator, vision. Like our team meetings would be so long. but I mean there's times where it's like all right this is this is long yeah but honestly like he kept our attention great motivator like he would he would make you believe like you could do anything like our team we'd be like dude we're gonna like it didn't matter who we're playing like we're gonna kill these dudes and like it could be a team that's better than us I mean I didn't have much on our we had some good teams at Clemson but like he was awesome I still talk to

1:24:48PFT Commenter:him like once a month yeah I mean and obviously like Clemson before Dabo gets there like they were good but it was also the joke of like clemsoning and you know always being good but not great and then he took it to another level so it's clear for sure and he also the thing that dabo deserves a ton of credit for is he broke up like he was the the guy who won other than nick saban in that era like nick saban dominated college football yeah and dabo was like no i got teams that can compete 100 yeah yeah it's like uh i feel like with head coaches it's always a balance of like you have some head coaches that are just very cerebral they just think football and they kind of miss that motivational leadership aspect of it, then he is kind of like the opposite.

1:25:29And I think that there has to be like a fusion. So if you're like that, he's done a great job with his staff. Like he's hired – I loved all of our coaches at Clemson, like offensive coordinators, position coaches. Obviously we've got great players. He's a great recruiter. Like you want to go play for him. It really is – like he sells the family atmosphere of Clemson and then you get there and it really is like that. It's a great place to go to school. But, man, he's a stud. I love him. yeah did you use a slide in the facility i did i got yelled out like every day i got yelled out

1:25:57PFT Commenter:for going down the slide so you went down it yeah players only oh and they were like someone yelled at me like you're not supposed to do that like well i'm already down it's probably uh it's probably like an insurance it's probably a liability thing yeah i just saw a slide and i went break something

1:26:10Big Cat:and sue the i just went for it yeah that's awesome that wasn't a players only slide like you didn't have a hard fast rule uh i mean i think it's like people in the building like players i think coaches can you, you know, like, but. Did you ever see coaches? Was Dabo on there? Oh, yeah, he'd go down it. No, he wouldn't. He'd probably go down it just like for fun. Yeah. During the break between meetings. He's also a great TikToker. Yeah. Hickory Dickory Doc. That's a classic. That is a classic. Hickory Dickory Doc, the mouse ran up the clock. Coach Sweeney's got that drip. And now he's on TikTok.

1:26:46Big Cat:What was your reaction when you saw that? That's a tough one. With the gloves on and the polo. Hickory Dickory Doc, the mouse went up the clock. Coach Swinney got that drip, and now he's on TikTok. But that's like actually him. Yeah. Like cringey stuff, and he has no shame.

1:27:03PFT Commenter:Yeah. I like that your answer is that he doesn't hear the outside noise because I think guys like that, they can just stay themselves, and they don't get changed by people being like, that's lame or that's weird. Yeah. And it's like his belief is so strong in what he's doing. and it's like he's, that stuff doesn't affect him. There's a lot of people where when things start getting tough, they kind of waver and go up and down, and he's just always the same. He's always on 10. It never changes.

1:27:30Big Cat:If your coach is going viral for being cringy on TikTok, that's way better than your coach going viral for, I don't know, grabbing somebody's butt after a game. That would be awkward.

1:27:39PFT Commenter:That would be really awkward. Hypothetically. It would be hard to split the team. Hypothetically. It would be a tough team meeting for sure. Yeah.

1:27:49Big Cat:I don't know how you thought of that it's all hypothetical I bet the group chats that you might be on would be kind of crazy waking up to those the more yeah yeah crazy rookie year for sure

1:27:59PFT Commenter:your new coach uh coach Cohen who we had on had a lot of fun with him when you first met him did you bring up the Duval thing I feel like you got to do it just to be like hey I'm gonna say it once and then we can move on so i but i met him before that okay and i was i was there that day but i missed no no i was in there i was in that press conference actually okay so it was like there was there was a bunch of the i think there was like five or six of the guys that were in town that went and they all met him and talked to him then we went to the press conference and yeah we uh i honestly didn't give him too much i didn't give him i didn't give him too much heat on it because i know everybody else was yeah so i let him breathe a little bit on it but i think he's

1:28:38Big Cat:coached up on it did you guys did he do one on he did yeah it improved yeah same one or the or the no it improved yeah it kind of talked him through it it was also the eyes the eyes when he was that's what i told him it was the eyebrows which was the it's actually impressive that you can that he can do that i know i know i can't do it did somebody teach you how to say duvall yeah it's like i think when you get there when you're drafted you got to do a big one on camera yeah if they still do it i haven't seen the rookies do it this year yeah you got to get there's been some funny ones what's what's the trick to it you got to go deep yeah yeah that's good that was good do you feel additional pressure carrying on the legacy of blake bortles good question blake is the man he is the man he is the man he's the man around jacksonville yeah i've not met one person that doesn't like blake yeah he is the man and i haven't unfortunately i haven't hung out with that much but i see him from time to time like golfing or at the beach or whatever he's super cool um brandon linder i don't know if you guys know that name he was a center but him and i played with brandon linder my rookie year but they came in together him and blake and linder's the man but they're like best buds so you tell me all about blake and yeah a bunch of bunch of funny crazy stories but dude he's he's awesome everyone the boat yeah he's the boat that's what everybody knows him as would you let us stay at your house without you being there yeah i would oh okay cool

1:29:56PFT Commenter:you too yeah uh our crew yeah yeah because that's what blake did for us uh-huh we went to the beach it was a beach we went to his house beach we texted we were like hey we're here he's like oh shit i forgot you guys were coming uh like i'm out to dinner here's the code just let yourself in i'll do that yeah it was so you were like it wasn't like i'll stay at my house for the week no we stayed for a night okay but he was up for a night yeah we hung out with you guys he came back sure yeah yeah no that definitely that's just the type of guy blake is yeah no that checks out I love that interview with him with that girl on.

1:30:29Oh, Julia? Yes. That's amazing.

1:30:31Big Cat:Construction worker. And then he retired from the NFL to build his own house. Yeah. Rip cigs and do construction. So he did. He built his dream.

1:30:38PFT Commenter:He was trying to be friends with the construction workers. Dude, I love that. Yeah. I got some buddies that play pickup basketball with him like every week. Yeah? Yeah, I haven't made it out there yet, but I heard it's a great time. Yeah. Yeah. I want to talk about the playoff game, the comeback. Incredible game. How did you not quit? Because I would have quit. I would have been like, this is down so much, this is pointless. I think, I mean, I wouldn't quit. I mean, that's. Yeah, well, that's the difference between the NFL, yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't quit. But, I mean, it was looking bad. I mean, it really was.

1:31:11I think that drive at the end of the first half, or I know, that drive was huge. We went and scored right before halftime. It was 27-0. And we had four turnovers, like, through four picks every possession. finally scored and we're like all right we did something right and then i mean you gotta think about too like the defense we gave up three points in the second half yeah so it's like we did we gave up a touchdown we lose so they they had to lock in too so we and then we scored every possession yeah it was incredible dude i don't know we and we didn't even say much in the locker room it was just like we scored and was like all right it's one possession at a time like we got to just find a way to get back in it then we scored another time we got to stop and then now it's you know it's 27 14 or 30 14 i was like that's not bad like now we're back in the game and we just got hot it was almost one of those things i've been in position too when you're winning it's like you're trying so hard to not lose i think that's what la did it's like you're trying so hard to not lose

1:32:05PFT Commenter:the game you lose the game you start calling the game differently yeah like offensively i don't know what they're doing offense i didn't watch all that stuff necessarily but even defensively got like pretty conservative like the first half they were just like crazy pressures crazy funky stuff that they haven't done before um and they got us on a few things and then the second half it's like they were just like all right we're gonna back up we're gonna play a lot of zone we're just gonna try to and there was just too much time so yeah like everyone everyone on that

1:32:31Big Cat:defense looked like they were scared to make a mistake like they knew that you guys could do it and you knew that you could do it yeah once we once we scored and made it 14 whatever 27 or 30 whatever it was they were like they weren't talking at all yeah they were they were they were talking yeah the pressure flips in the first half because we were they were killing us and then we scored a couple times and they're like saying nothing the whole defense is just like oh god let's just not lose the game yeah hopefully the clock ticks faster right now yeah our co-worker john gruden he came on here and he told us about andrew luck and how he had the best uh snap cadence that he'd ever heard did a great impression of it uh and then we had andrew luck come on and he did it in person he made me and big cat jump off sides but is that something that that like you're going to the nfl do you work on your snap cadence i had to work on it because i did i did a lot of claps the claps the clapping disgusting that's not pretty effective you know it's sounds the exact same on one or two so right yeah but no i so i had to work i had never so i never called plays in the huddle besides goal line like goal line you get big personnel's you go under center hand it to christian wilkins or something like fullback like that stuff you couldn't huddle call the play but i never went under center or call to play or did a cadence really until i got to the nfl So all that was like blew my mind.

1:33:46Like some of the play calls that are 20 words, that was a huge adjustment.

1:33:50PFT Commenter:Was that the hardest change or was it? Because, I mean, obviously everyone talks about the speed. But what was the hardest jump from college to NFL? Probably, I mean, yeah, the speed, all that stuff, like the margin for error is a lot smaller. The guys just aren't as open. Like you're throwing to typically like you're not throwing to wide open guys. That's a change. but I think yeah the mental like I guess what you have to do as a quarterback mentally is a lot different than college like what I was asked to do so that was a big change like even the run game like changing stuff knowing exactly what's going on the run game like changing the the point adjusting it getting to like your second play running two but we never ran two plays in college like we would do the fake cadence and then look at the sideline like does the coach want to change the play yeah if not you just run it you know like stuff like that but and we signaled everything but But having the two plays in one, adjustments in the run game, and then you change it to a play action or a pass, all that stuff was a huge adjustment for me.

1:34:48Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. Back to your overall health right now. I said that you're feeling good. We're feeling maybe as healthy as we've felt in a long time. Have the Jacksonville Jaguars made the investment in an injury cart so that you don't have to walk two miles? Injury cart? Yeah. Cart. Yeah. Yeah, we have some. Okay. All right. that was it felt bad for you at the time we were watching on tv and we're like put this man on a cart dude that was give him a ride was like so i was kind of close to that one tunnel i don't know if you guys where i was on the field like i was close to one so i'm like i'm gonna walk off i'll be fine didn't we're barely walk off but then when i got in the tunnel it was uh it was a monday night game i think yeah it was it's a primetime game so they had cameras in the tunnels so that's where that's where they got the money shot of me like limping down the i didn't think there was any cameras in there yeah so i they offered me a cart i will say but you're a tough guy i mean i shouldn't have been knowing that that like what turn of it like i should have just gotten the cart but i was like i was like if i'm fine and i got carted off like that's like something you don't want to do yeah that's the worst yeah that's true it's like it's like that uh who did that was it uh paul pierce yeah yeah yeah that's like he pooped himself yeah he did yeah it's like if you get carted off then you come back i got a guy in college get carted off like gives the thumbs up like you know like i'm all right guys like you know then he comes back out like a series later it's like dude honestly like trying to avoid that if i if i was in the nfl very first play i would get stretched off and then i'd be like oh i'm actually not hurt i'm hurt but i'm not like injured okay i'll try again i just do that every play yeah do it every game everyone thinks you're

1:36:27PFT Commenter:done every then you just come right back yeah yeah our friend trill weathers always i always think about his funny tweet where he's like if if he got injured he would he wouldn't do the thumbs up he'd do the thumbs down because it's like dude this sucks yeah i'm getting carded someone breaks their leg and you're like bad not good it's the best one like it obviously sucks when injuries happen but when uh one of the uh like the chain gang gets hurt rolled up on and they oh yeah they give the thumbs up and it's like all right cool we're worried there's probably a guy right behind you that's good that could do it yeah yeah right exactly next no those guys i uh i feel bad for or like a camera someone that's camera guys yeah gets blasted yeah because they're just doing their job and then they they like lose focus or they're focused on the play and then boom i ran over a trainer in college uh student trainer like i got pushed out of balance so i did like the stumble where i stayed up and just full speed hit her she got a concussion she's out like two weeks oh my god so i don't she did not give the thumbs up yeah yeah thumbs down that yeah security guards

1:37:27Big Cat:that are facing away from the play like they're looking at the stands yeah they always get like the legs taken out oh my gosh so it's in the end zone go out the back of the end oh yeah um speaking

1:37:35PFT Commenter:of your stadium do you ever just like look up at the pool and be like what's going on there yeah the pools are funny you get like a sometimes people's you know when you're in the water and their legs look crazy yeah you'll see that i've seen that in games it's wild it's because they're wearing jeans yeah yeah sometimes with jeans yeah those pools i mean i'm sure they do a great job cleaning them but i don't know if i'd trust we've been in them yeah we've been in your jacksonville yeah how is it it was great awesome doug marone was a lifeguard yeah doug marone got in it with us so this was it wasn't like it was off it was off season yeah but we got in the pool that's all full jeans i think they're i think they're keeping them with the new build good it's so unique like you gotta keep it yeah you have to have it do uh do you enjoy playing in london i do i've gotten used to it i mean i've gone four times now and the last two years we've played two games in a row there yeah so i kind of enjoy it i mean now like i have a six-month-old daughter so that's a little different like being away from home you know before it'd be like marissa would sometimes come out so it's great like you know maybe see her once and then being in london's great you get a cooler weather we stay at a sick place it's called the grove out like in the country it's a great hotel so we get we have a good setup and we've kind of gotten used to it but i think guys with like families like it's tougher being away from home but we only got the one game

1:38:51Big Cat:this year we play la out there okay what's the uh the sleep schedule like when you go out there that's how we base our bets it's like if a team leaves early in the week then we're like okay they're gonna be just we always leave late huh and we we usually play pretty well out there yeah it's interesting but we we always leave thursday night and land friday morning so i mean

1:39:10PFT Commenter:yeah i feel like that's that like for most of the teams it's either you got to leave like sunday night right after the game or like you guys do it it's the middle teams that like get all kind of fucked up yeah there's like two thoughts so we're going this year new staff with liam and the whole crew like we're going on monday night okay so we're going to get there earlier um so i don't know i haven't done that before i don't think that's bad to get adjusted either because you are you're you're pretty tired like friday you get in you do like a walk through and guys did barely slept on the plane and you're just trying to catch up saturday you get the day off and then you play sunday and then you come home so it's a it's a quick turnaround but there's some arguments like you know can you really get adjusted in time even if you go early like i don't know i don't really know the science behind it but yeah um going back to the uh playoff win against the chargers the next week were you aware that you were undefeated on saturdays going into that game i'd heard yeah i'd heard that in your i didn't know in your entire career yeah 36 pretty crazy insane that's an insane stat yeah i was i wish that would have held up yeah that would have been that would have been fun yeah uh yeah crazy this is a dumb question but do you think maybe you

1:40:18Big Cat:didn't lose enough on saturdays especially well just yeah yeah i know that sometimes i like they don't lose at all and then they get to the nfl they're like oh shit you lose all the time in the nfl because everyone's really good yeah i don't i i mean i think it's definitely an adjustment you're so used to winning so it can be frustrating you know you're not you kind of have a i don't want to say you have a different perspective on I guess how hard it is to win when you've only won like in high school we won a lot in college we won a lot and then the margin is so small in the NFL and then it's a 17 game season so it's like what when was the last undefeated team the Dolphins and yeah 72 yeah I mean so that's the last undefeated team so it doesn't happen really so being able to flush it and like play well the next week i feel like i kind of i got a good dose of that my rookie year i'm trying to bounce back and like because we went what three and 14 so that definitely uh got me adjusted to but i still like you want to have the mindset like you're going to win every game so it's a fine line but then after that is over you got to flush it win or loss so it's a good point i mean i think there's something too though like you want to be like you want to have guys that have won though and like you want to have that culture of guys that are like you don't also want a bunch of guys that have only lost like you know you want to build your team around guys that have won right i think there's two sides to it yeah you just have to have to be able to like figure out how to flush it like do you for sure you flush it before you get home or does it take you like you have to go to sleep it takes me yeah i have to like i have to watch it like i have to watch it when i get home i know a lot of guys watch it that night yeah if it's usually it's up i won't like take a launch but i'll take like 20 minutes and i'll just flick through it because there's like certain plays where i'm like this one what happened on this one because you can't see on the sideline it's just pictures right it's like pre-snap middle of the play and then maybe the very end like so it's hard to piece together everything but i have to see like what went wrong or this decision i made like what what did i what happened here i saw i thought i saw this but it was something else like that helps me sleep when i can do that and see it and be like all right might have played terrible but like i can at least flush it move on yeah does it ever get clogged

1:42:28PFT Commenter:when you're trying to flush it you wake up the next morning you're like shit sometimes this is a tough one yeah tough game yeah sometimes it goes into monday really will like watch it we'll have some meetings monday then you'll really you can't flush it completely can't flush it too hard right you gotta go watch it again right you're doing you're doing you're just doing like the the flush because you're like you know this like if you have a really bad loss like you know this a big big one i do one one flush and then another flush later you do the pink flush yeah it's like the small yeah yeah right right right it's like the small button then you do the big button on

1:42:58Big Cat:monday yeah yeah you want to you want to still be able to smell it right yeah reminder you want to

1:43:03PFT Commenter:linger in a little bit i clogged my hotel room toilet last night and there's no plunger so i had to put my hand in a plastic bag and i don't know why i didn't call the friend dad i don't know why i shared that sometimes you gotta i don't know i shouldn't have shared that i should not have shared that do you flush wins i put my hand in a bag and then i just that's a good question flushed that that's disgusting well i mean it was it was just toilet paper guys i'd already flushed like four times oh okay yeah so you're a courtesy flush i mean i have to it's not courtesy it's like mandatory uh yeah my wife isn't here yet so yeah yeah no i would have done that i would have gone to the lobby that's what that's what i do when we when you share an airport or when you share a hotel room really just name another yeah you gotta go to the lobby you can't with your wife you still go to the lobby sometimes when you know it's bad you got it that's you're good there's some shit that he's lucky to have you listen when you're in a hotel room there are times when you take a dump and it will stay like linger for they do seem like they stay more yeah i'll come back like two hours later be like who took oh that was me who shit in my toilet in my room when i was gone all right i shouldn't have shared that whatever that's fine that was good uh what do you think about urban meyer perfect that's a good fly just flush that yeah i do have a question about your nickname we've got to fix your nickname the prince that was promised that's too long it was so what why is that my nickname i don't know it's on pro football reference yeah okay no one calls me that i've never to my face i've never heard that yeah that would be very weird yeah so i was like oh there comes the prince that was promised yeah it doesn't flow yeah yeah t-law works that's a good one yeah yeah lawrence of evergladia oh evergladia are you

1:44:40Big Cat:kind of close you're not really close to the everglades yeah florida's big state on it yeah

1:44:45PFT Commenter:big state yeah uh i really shouldn't have fucking said that thing about the toilet no it's fine

1:44:50Big Cat:this is a free space do but do you flush the winds too do you get home and you're like i gotta i gotta get rid of the bad place from the winds yeah i'll watch the winds too i'll watch the winds too will you be like whoa that was a sick throw It's nice to see the good plays, for sure. I mean, I'm not going to lie. Yeah. Those are fun to watch. Yeah. More fun than the bad ones. But you've got to watch them all. But it's twisted. You want to – like my brain is weird. Like you want to – I almost want to see the bad ones more. Yeah. You see the good ones, you're like, oh, sick. But it's like you've got to see the bad ones.

1:45:18Like those are the ones. Like if I don't watch those, like that's – I could skip the good ones and be fine. But if I don't see the bad ones, it will like – it will linger. Yeah.

1:45:27Big Cat:You have a sickest throw? Sickest throw. Yeah. Um, that's a good question.

1:45:35PFT Commenter:Good question. Man. Good question. Thank you. We can come back to it. We can circle back. I'm trying to think. You might have flushed it. Flushed? Dude, it's gone. Well, let's come back to it. Okay. Okay. You can just answer yes to this question because then you'll look cool. If you had beaten LSU in the national championship, would you have let us interview you the next morning drunk? You guys did one with Joe? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. There we go. Good. Good answer. we were at that game yeah it was uh yeah i mean lsu was insane that i would i probably would have done an interview with you guys okay love that you guys don't like to interview the guys that lost though it's not as fun they typically don't want to they don't really want to get in oh yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't have done it yeah would you want to talk to us like if you're that was brutal the worst loss of your life i wouldn't have talked to you guys so that one all right well let's go through a win though yeah yeah the positive when you guys kicked the shit out of alabama that had to feel awesome that was a no doubter that was fun man and going into the game it's It's like still, hey, this is Alabama.

1:46:32PFT Commenter:They don't lose these games. That was supposed to be – I mean, that team was stacked. Yeah. It was Tua, Devontae Smith, Judy, Henry Ruggs. Yep. Irv Smith, Josh Jacobs, Najee Harris. Defense, they had some ballers on defense too. I mean, Quinnen Williams. They had a ton of guys. But that was supposed to be like one of the best teams ever. So we felt like – Coach Sweeney, another thing come back to him that he was great at, he always made us feel like the underdog. no matter what it's like we hadn't lost all season and it seemed like no one he made us think that everyone thinks that we suck so we're like all right we're gonna show we're gonna show all these people you know it's like we could be playing you know georgia southern like early in the season it'd be the same thing like these guys don't think they can beat you what uh so in that game was there a moment when because you won 44 16 i believe was there a moment where like this is over and we got this because it was it did feel like a coronation at the end towards the end yeah i mean probably not until we i'd have to go back what how the whole game went but not towards because they were they were really good and they had a couple they had a couple like huge touchdown plays like we went up we had to pick six early to put us up seven nothing and then they went down through like a bomb to i think it was judy honestly i can't remember who like a 60 yard touchdown so it's like they were a little bit of back and forth early so we're gonna have to score a lot to run away from.

1:47:59But yeah, toward the middle of, beginning and middle of the fourth quarter, we were in a good spot. Yeah.

1:48:03Big Cat:That's got to be a great feeling. We started doing some QB runs just to like rub it in a little bit. It was awesome. Yeah. Great. Would he make you feel like you're playing against Wake Forest? He'd be like, no one thinks that you guys can beat these guys? Yeah. I mean, not that exact line, but yeah, basically. I mean, that type of thought. Yeah. Yeah, I love that. I don't know if anyone's ever told you this, but we uncovered a deep stat in the NFL. It goes back throughout the entire history of the league yeah okay you don't want to listen to this long-haired quarterbacks have never won a super bowl really never what's the longest-haired quarterback that's won a super it might be joe namath and he was like shaggy was it was roethlisberger had a half long it wasn't it

1:48:40PFT Commenter:wasn't a long year um no he always lost when he lost yeah long-haired quarterbacks never won the big one what is this what are you going to right now mentally let's talk about it i'll be right back that's a that's a that's a crazy stat yeah so you could look at it one way or the other you could be like hey i'm gonna be the first to break the mold or cut your hair and then you win a super bowl that's the answer i don't know statistically one or the other yeah yeah would you cut your hair i i would i don't know when though like marissa likes me with long hair right i had a buzz cut in eighth grade till like middle of ninth grade she wasn't a big fan of that so she's like you need to keep it i'm like i said i'm not that attached like i would cut it but i'm like you know she wants to keep long hair i'll keep long hair so yeah i do i mean now i'm used to i don't have i've had the same haircut since i was in 10th grade yeah so i'm definitely

1:49:36Big Cat:more comfortable with it it would be nice that as a man with long hair to see finally somebody who looks like me when a super representation matter all the long-haired guys on my back exactly yeah wait would you would you cut your hair if you won a super bowl uh locks of love

1:49:53PFT Commenter:donate to the kids oh super bowl winning quarter hair would be pretty sick i would say yes to that locks of love i mean oh yeah i'll match you'll match if you do it i'll match you gotta do it together and we all do it like the uh max is doing max just matched as well wow holy shit match think how many little kids out there super bowl we all cut our hair all three of you yeah How long have you been growing your hair out?

1:50:16Big Cat:Since senior of college, so six years. I'm like 13 years, 12 years. This is serious. You guys get cuts, though? Yeah, I get trimmed up. I don't want to do it. I'm only doing this if you do it just because I needed to say I wanted to match, to be honest. Yeah, no, that's great. Kyle, you guys put me on a smile. Well, you could say no, and then we just shame you for not donating your hair to kids. I'm gonna let's uh let's circle back to this I'm interested this is all you winning a Super Bowl like that's I love it I would be I'd be thrilled to cut my hair I think you got to say yes right now you know what I like though I like that the reason why you're so hesitant is because you truly believe that you will win a Super Bowl yeah yeah you're considering yeah like if you

1:50:59PFT Commenter:were to ask me that I'd say fuck yeah yeah whatever yeah it's like that's not a good answer yeah yeah all right i mean i think i think we're gonna start that is awesome you gotta do it though think about it that's three of you over we're circling back to okay okay think about this finally all your lookalikes will stop being women yeah true great point is that weird you that's actually a great yeah there was one you guys seen the one oh yeah oh yeah that one was crazy a lot like me yeah and it's like just like enough to piss me off some of them i'm like she She doesn't look like me. I'm like, damn it.

1:51:33She does look like me. But she was at like every game. And it was a little weird. I'm like, all right, can you stop? Like we're getting off the bus for the game, trying to get ready. And I've seen you like 10 times. Dude, it was tough. I don't know if that's worse for me or her, honestly.

1:51:49Big Cat:Did your wife, girlfriend at the time, was she like jealous of her? Or was she like, that's weird? What do you mean jealous of her? Like, I don't know. because she's like i would assume that if there's a girl that likes you so much she's dedicating her life to dressing up like you she probably likes you a little bit too much no i think marissa she definitely wasn't jealous she was definitely she was more like that's just weird yeah especially after the first time it's like all right get it first time i met her i got getting off the bus literally before home game she's there jersey headband and i already heard about her i'd been prepped i'm like all right take a picture like you do we do look similar i thought that was the end of it no she came back a lot yeah and so it was first i was like all right it's kind of weird i'd say so yeah yeah it's a pretty spit when you have long hair it's like it's probably you're a little bit taller than maybe like a couple inches but sometimes people see the back of your head a couple and you're sitting down at dinner and the waitress comes up and they go excuse me ma 'am yeah exactly that happened to me in jacksonville and it was we had just sat down to eat lunch somewhere and she comes up to the table and she's like man would you like anything and i like turn around she's like just runs off yeah runs off who are you with marissa okay because all right that's

1:53:00PFT Commenter:good because he it's happened a couple times to him when he's with us yeah it's bad that's not

1:53:05Big Cat:bad we just that's like worst case scenario these guys forget about it so fast yeah they probably never bring it up yeah well ever if you're if you're with steakhouse in vegas it was there's brazilian steakhouse yeah and if you're at a table and it's like three girls and you and then the waitress comes up and she goes hey ladies that's a bad situation too that's happened to me once or twice yeah no it's happened to me a few times yeah it has i was just gonna say that's that's the most embarrassing moment for that waitress ever because not only did they screw up a man or a woman but it's also it's trevor lawrence in jacksonville yeah yeah when i turned around she wasn't happy with herself but i thought it was funny like that stuff doesn't bother me but i did honestly i felt bad for even though i guess i was the one that was i don't want to say insulted but i felt more bad for her because it was so awkward right so as soon as she comes back like five minutes later and it's just didn't really address it yeah um all right well trevor this

1:53:59PFT Commenter:has been awesome i got one last question for you roback question rhoback.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase qzips polos hoodies joggers shorts roback.com promo code take uh how bad was it that i shared that toilet thing i thought it was great i thought it was one of the best parts of the interview okay all right all right my real last question is uh are you are you aware of the lore of the kid who got his head stuck in the jaguar statue yeah because i'm

1:54:24Big Cat:yes okay because we interviewed him what year was that that was in 90 was it like 90 early 2000s we interviewed him last year it was like early enough to where no one had tried it yet yeah and everyone knows that you can't yeah it's gonna get stuck yeah yeah so yeah i know about it because our security guy skip richardson he's the man he's awesome shout skip he's been there since the team started he pulled his head out of it oh he was the one who did it he has a he has an article in his

1:54:52PFT Commenter:office about it that's amazing 1997 1997 yeah that was two years in yeah so yeah and we that's incredible yeah we we met him last year on grit week he like just came up to us at a bar he's like you'll never believe who i am i was like what like you can't you i'm i'm not gonna be shocked by this he's like i'm the kid who got his head stuck and then we verified it and we're like what the fuck how old is he now he's like 30 and he was awesome and we and we interviewed him so

1:55:16Big Cat:what max he's how old was he that math didn't add up so he was he was definitely older than

1:55:21PFT Commenter:whatever whatever i have to talk about whatever he is 35 he's 35 no he was older than two when he got his head stuck yeah yeah you're right probably like he's probably like 30 he's probably 35 35 i didn't need i didn't need to say that oh that's okay that was actually the worst part of the interview not me talking about the toilet if he was two his head probably wouldn't have got stuck yeah but yeah you gotta he's gotta be part of the when you guys win the super bowl you gotta shave your head and then he's gotta be on the parade float i love that yeah and you also have

1:55:50Big Cat:to come on part of my take the morning after because you already said that you do it after the national championship if you unless you're all right okay deal super bowl is better than national championship so all right do it yes i think that's all right all right i'm in uh trevor

1:56:03PFT Commenter:this has been awesome man thank you guys for having me been too long yeah i know we were trying We've been trying to do this for a few years. You're the man, and we're big fans, and have a great season. Appreciate you guys. This was fun, man. Yeah.

1:56:16Big Cat:Trevor Lawrence is brought to you by Mountain Dew. Our great friends at Mountain Dew, they know that golf season's here. They know that summer's here. It's boat season. It's river season. It's beach season. If you're planning a lake day, if you're just hanging in the park, if you're going out on the boat, or if you're going out on the course, nothing is more refreshing than Mountain Dew. Nothing hits summer better than Mountain Dew. After Camp Barstool last summer, I remember there were some hot days, worked up a sweat. Nothing hit like that ice cold, refreshing Mountain Dew when we got back to the cabin.

1:56:46Big Cat:And they've got the cool new retro cans too. So delicious looking. I love the Mountain Dew retro cans. Nothing goes better with summer than the citrusy kick of Mountain Dew. It tastes like you're chilling on a mountaintop. Grab a Dew in the new packaging. Enjoy the refreshing citrus kick of Mountain Dew. Trevor Lawrence is also brought to you by our great friends over at EA Sports celebrating EA Sports College Football 26. The playbook is yours. Rise from high school recruit to Heisman legend or submit your legacy as a coach by leading your program to glory. You can rep your colors across 136 FBS schools featuring over 300 authentic coaches, 2 ,700 new plays.

1:57:25Big Cat:That's almost 3 ,000 new plays and 10 ,000 college athletes with upgraded abilities. Sharpen your play style with new offensive and defensive mechanics to prove your program belongs at the top. I saw somebody playing College Football 26 last week as Mike Gundy. The representation of Mike Gundy. They nailed it. They nailed it. Perfect. Again, this is the perfect video game. It's the best video game. It's EA Sports College Football 26. Buy the MVP bundle now. EA Sports College Football 26 is rated E for everyone. Includes in-game purchases, including random items. And if you're looking for codes to get them, ask memes, right?

1:58:00Big Cat:Yep. Memes. Memes. You got the codes. Memes got the codes. EA Sports College Football 26.

1:58:05PFT Commenter:Okay. Let's wrap up the show. So we talked about this last week. Zach has some admirers. So the original admirer of Zach, turns out she's married. Kind of like I didn't know she got down like that. Tough look for her husband. Yeah. Tough look for her husband. But then we had a new admirer of Zach who posted a video essentially being like, I want to take Zach out on a date. And this woman is extremely hot. I thought for a second, Zach, that it was Jessica Chastain and I was going to fight you because I love her. And I was like, what the fuck? Zach, what are we going to do?

1:58:46Big Cat:Yes, there was a kind woman named Rachel who made a video saying that she would be open to possibly going on a date with me. I believe the course of action may be message Rachel back and see when in the near future, relative near future, schedules permitting when she would be open to going on a date. So we're going to do a date? I think we may be going on a date here soon, boys.

1:59:10PFT Commenter:Fuck yeah.

1:59:10Big Cat:All right. She's a Pilates instructor. That is correct. She does instruct Pilates to workout classes. Yeah. And she's very attractive. Can we say that?

1:59:18PFT Commenter:We're allowed to say that.

1:59:19Big Cat:I think she looks like a lovely young woman. She looks like she's driven. She's ambitious. And most importantly, she's got great taste in dudes. She's hot. In the most respectful way possible, yes. Rachel is a very good looking woman, but she looks like she has a great head on her shoulders. We're teaching these Pilates classes. Very kind when she speaks. Great head on great shoulders, too. Yes.

1:59:39PFT Commenter:Shout out to Rachel. Zach, you also... So you're not nervous, although you did tell me that the last date you were on, actually the girl canceled it, right?

1:59:49Big Cat:It wasn't like a cancellation. It was like, I thought I had went on a date this one time. And then later on in life, I was like, yeah, that date went terrible, didn't it? I apologize for that date going so poorly. When we go on this next date, it might go better. And she was just like, oh, you thought that was a date. And that was my only confirmed date. She retroactively canceled the date. Yeah.

2:00:10PFT Commenter:She tried to strike it from the record

2:00:12Big Cat:Where'd you go? What did she say that it was? So we just went and got drinks That's a date Fuck this chick for saying that's not a date She's super cool, super kind, shout out to her But I thought it was a date too And she was like, oh you thought that was a date And I did, that was my only confirmed date And then that has been struck from the record No, no, no, we're putting it back on the record It was just the two of you? It was 1v1 drinks It was a solo match Cross her up

2:00:45PFT Commenter:We win 1v1 drinks Alright so Zach I think part of this is like You are very funny And by the way Best eyes on the podcast I'm going to say that right now If you haven't gotten a look of Zach's eyes Like close up Baby blue Caribbean blue eyes Incredible eyes appreciate you saying that big cat yes i got you uh but she this girl asked you out on a date she already likes the vibe of zach you just have to be you and you're gonna and if you'd be you i'm not gonna get graphic but just be you the day could go well we could have a good time maybe

2:01:26Big Cat:like maybe go second date i think that's a good goal but we gotta get we gotta go date one first

2:01:30PFT Commenter:what did i tell you you're gonna only have one you're gonna only have one decision to make on

2:01:33Big Cat:this date and she could have already backpedaled and been like i don't want to go on a date anymore No, no. That's a territory. Don't put that out there, Zach. She's into you. So you got to figure out what would be a good first date. I was thinking we could run drinks if she's open to that. Maybe like...

2:01:51PFT Commenter:Everything is kind of video game.

2:01:52Big Cat:Run duos on COD? I don't know how that would go. I only have one controller. I think we could drinks. What about laser tag? Let's start with drinks. Let's start with drinks. I like that, Max. I like that. Just happy hour, a few drinks, nothing crazy. Maybe just one drink. We'll start with one drink. And then if it's good, then you go too. Right. Well, okay, yeah. Well, two drinks total. I thought you were going to say each date you just add one drink. No, no, I'm saying like... That'd be funny. It's like a third after dark. Yeah.

2:02:26PFT Commenter:If you marry this chick and you just become a violent alcoholic.

2:02:32Big Cat:Oh, no. So, Zach, just because it's drinks, you don't have to have a drink if you don't want an alcohol. Zach, I want a drink. What would you get to drink? What's your move? It depends if we do like a middle of the day or like an evening situation. I think it's the evening. Evening, I like maybe like a nice little tequila soda, maybe a cognac situation. Oh.

2:02:53PFT Commenter:Man of class. All right. So, Zach, what are we replying to her right now? Where she's going to be like, hey, you want to get drinks?

2:02:59Big Cat:What should I say? Should I just be like, hello, Rachel. How are you today? I was thinking No No Yes He has to be Zach She likes Zach This is how This is who Zach is Let Zach be Zach

2:03:10PFT Commenter:Alright so you just

2:03:11Big Cat:How should we start this? I think that's What you just said was perfect

2:03:14PFT Commenter:Hello Rachel How are you today? I saw the video I saw the video Yeah And then you just Say out loud What you're writing And I think it's gonna be great Dude he's gonna He's gonna crush this

2:03:26Big Cat:This is gonna be good He said hello Rachel Hope your weekend went well I don't know He wasn't speaking So I was just going Nice My bad, I was thinking first. I was brain shopping. No, I was workshopping. I was workshopping. I like brain shopping. Brain shopping place. Brain shopping place. Yeah, just stopping in a few stores. But you're off to a great start. You're off to a great start. Hope your weekend went well is a good line. That's a good line. Solid one. Yeah. Okay. It's appropriate timing because it is Sunday. Was wondering. Oh, no, he just deleted was wondering. Oh.

2:03:58Big Cat:if you are still open to going on a date yes together yes what days work best for you i like that that's it just leave it at that back at her because now she's

2:04:14PFT Commenter:got a reply she's probably got that purple button i'm gonna spell check it home her pilates schedule

2:04:20Big Cat:let her tell you what date she's available that's good exactly we'll make it work in our The only thing we got to make sure is you can't, like, let's hope this goes well.

2:04:29PFT Commenter:You can't be in a Pilates studio. You got to be like four or five dates deep before we get you in a Pilates studio. I don't feel comfortable with putting you in a Pilates studio. And I say that from someone who I will never do Pilates in my life as well.

2:04:41Big Cat:If I end up in a Pilates studio, we probably won't go on another date because I don't have Pilates in my repertoire of physical activity. I just don't have that. No core strength. I have an idea. What? If she does want you to go into a Pilates studio at some point, all of us have to do a practice Pilates here. Yes. And we'll video us trying to do Pilates here.

2:05:02PFT Commenter:We'll get a different Pilates instructor and we'll workshop it. Yeah.

2:05:06Big Cat:Because you're going to need to do some sort of pre-Pilates before you do Pilates. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. I love that group date. Six v. six. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, no.

2:05:17PFT Commenter:I think we start at 1v1. No, we're saying that we will be like Nathan for you rehearsal Pilates. Yeah. So that when you get to the first Pilates, because I've never done Pilates. I've never been in the same room as Pilates. If you put me in that room, I would probably say things that are stupid, ask dumb questions. We'll work that out for you.

2:05:35Big Cat:I also think it would be funny to see all of us try and do Pilates. I agree. Now, Zach, we could also do the simulation before the first date where you run through it with somebody in this office. You practice. is you think it makes most sense to just save any date potential i have for the date like what if i what if i have a good an okay performance on the practice date and then i'm just and so then i have no performance on the real date but do you think that having a good you can't put your best material we can't put his best material out there but do you think that i'm limited guys is that going to give you more confidence going to the date if you have a really good run through yeah maybe i think

2:06:13PFT Commenter:he's saying like do it off like do it we don't put it out till after the date comes out yeah we

2:06:18Big Cat:might burn as much as I don't even think we put it out I think that we just we run the simulation

2:06:22PFT Commenter:we just want you I think to have a great time I think we just have to wait and see if we're

2:06:26Big Cat:Rachel still open to possibly going on a date and if she says she would like to do that then me and Rachel go on a date and then uh we'll see how that goes I think you just be yourself

2:06:34PFT Commenter:and she's gonna be head over heels I told you you got one decision you got to make on this date

2:06:41Big Cat:it's the first date uh no early celebrations we're waiting for the dm back all right is it sent we

2:06:46PFT Commenter:I did not drink the champagne early.

2:06:47Big Cat:It's officially sent. Sent. We have sent.

2:06:49PFT Commenter:All right. Good for you, Zach. This feels good.

2:06:55Big Cat:Yeah, I'm looking forward to getting to know Rachel. I agree. You're going to be so polite on this date. It's going to be the most polite date of all time. Everybody's polite on first dates, right? No, not always. But you are the most polite, and she's going to love it. She's going to love it.

2:07:08PFT Commenter:Zach, let's try to stay out of the kitchen on this date.

2:07:11Big Cat:What's up?

2:07:12PFT Commenter:Let's try to stay out of the kitchen like the incident at Applebee's.

2:07:15Big Cat:i was just going to tell ann that uh anna or i was going to tell miss anna that uh we enjoyed the uh

2:07:20PFT Commenter:her service we went to the boys went to applebee's to end uh chill week and uh our server came and it was like it was almost like a fine dining experience which i respect her for she took all of our appetizers and didn't take our entrees and we were confused and we're like wait is she gonna also take our entrees i was like zach go go tell her that we have a lot more to order and then zach just came back like 15 seconds later shaking his head and i was like what happened he's like i ran after her and i got all the way into the kitchen and they started yelling at me because i was standing in the middle of the kitchen so this went too deep yeah that's just but you learning experience you just follow directions which i love about you just go get anna you were gonna go to the end of the earth to get her she did come back for the uh she was phenomenal phenomenal fantastic yeah loved having her uh all right good show boys got some good good interviews coming up this week.

2:08:11And, oh, Takey's on Friday.

2:08:15PFT Commenter:So Smash, if you haven't subscribed to YouTube, if you haven't subscribed to all of where you get the podcasts, Takey's are on Friday, officially. Takey's are coming on Friday. Okay. Number three.

2:08:28Big Cat:I think that was me. I don't even think you said a number. I think you just said, ugh. No, that was memes. I said number three. I can see it. I can see it on the waves. That was memes.

2:08:37PFT Commenter:No way.

2:08:37Big Cat:No, that's four. Oh, wait. No, I can't tell. I still think it's memes. I don't even think PFT says it. Sounded like memes. Pug? I hate to say it. I think it was memes. Pug's taking a look. PFT blurted out, ugh. That's first. No, I can't see. Wait, go up. What do we got, Pug? Oh, wait. No, it actually was PFT. Oh, down there. I know exactly. You can see yours. Mine was gone. No, mine was gone. No, yours was not gone. What would you have guessed? I thought it was you, but. I guessed three, but PFT didn't even say enough. No, I said three. No, it was PFT. Push mouth.

2:09:09PFT Commenter:Six? Oh, 77. I'll do... 59.

2:09:2126.

2:09:23Big Cat:I don't know. 99, Pug. 44. 51. 21.

2:09:42PFT Commenter:62 What would have happened there If it was 3 I thought it was going to be 3 What would have happened

2:09:50Big Cat:I think I would have attacked PST You would have had to attack him Absolutely No it would have been my fault Oh yeah it would have been your closest No but I was the one that ruled that it was you So memes who do you kill first Me Always Max Well no actually he would kill Shane first Yeah Yeah.

2:10:10PFT Commenter:We should probably all do a blind poll of what order we'd kill people, and then we could just.

2:10:15Big Cat:I think we could figure out through the blind poll who's who. I bet we could, too. Yeah. Yeah. Pug would just be heartbreaking. No, Pug would pick no one. At the bottom of everything. Yeah. Zach would for sure pick no one.

2:10:27PFT Commenter:No. He would pick himself. He absolutely would. I just want the boys to have a good time. I don't want to be in their way. All right. See you on Wednesday. Love you guys.

2:10:43Thank you.

2:11:10Thank you.

2:11:41Thank you.

2:12:09Thank you.

2:12:38Thank you.