UConn Head Coach Dan Hurley, April Fools Has Everyone On Alert, NFL League Meetings, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Guys On Chicks

12:56Big Cat:I've never laughed harder in the history of this show. He started as Big Dom, and then he became Southern. The Southern when he was, I take care of my body. I take care of my body. I didn't know what direction he was going with the accent. Oh, my God, Jerry. That was amazing. That was so good. That was so good. Good question. You really put him on his heels on that one. Yeah, he didn't. He didn't answer at all. I think we had scripted questions, and he had scripted answers. Yeah.

13:22PFT Commenter:Yeah. Wait, so are we telling him? I think we are, right?

13:26Big Cat:Yeah, I think he's going to call in. He's probably going to say something like, bing bong memes, and then -

13:32PFT Commenter:All right, he's going to zoom in. That's perfect. All right, send me the zoom. We'll have him zoom in, and we're going to surprise memes. Gotcha memes. How did Jerry fall for this? I don't know. I think this was his entire probably last two or three days.

13:49Big Cat:Yeah. I mean, to be an actor, you have to have the utmost confidence in yourself. And Jerry O 'Connell definitely has he's got a lot of confidence to pull off any role. This is like his Robert Downey Jr. in Tropic Thunder.

14:00PFT Commenter:Oh, man.

14:04PFT Commenter:This is a great April Fool's. Yeah. And the best part about all this is that Max is still thinking like, how are they getting me max is so nervous he's still wondering like how's this gonna turn around on me how's gonna turn around and and get me okay so now we're having jerry join us oh memes we got a special

14:27Big Cat:guest for you on zoom what's your special guest oh no he got you he got you memes smith Mr. Smith, I have a question for you. You are so stupid, Memes. Come on. Are you as dumb as Max? Max, we all come on. Yeah. That's a ricochet at Max. Memes, you got to be better than that. Come on. Come on. But you sounded just like him. It happens. It happens to the best of us. Fuck. Jerry, you did a great job with the voice. What was your inspiration there? Oh, that woman's looking at you, Jerry. I watched – you guys texted me this morning saying, okay, Colin is Geno Smith. I texted you guys, is that inappropriate just because we are different races?

15:25And I thought with all this Drewski, Erica Kirk stuff, I thought, yeah, I can do this. I can get away with it, you know?

15:32PFT Commenter:Jerry, I just sent you a picture. That was a funny sketch, I want to say. Yes. That was a funny sketch. Check your text. Can you look at your text right now? You want me to look at my text? Yeah, I just show you a picture of memes You should see it And read it out loud Give me a second Alright, you got it? Yeah, I got it What does it say? Oh, fuck What does it say, Jerry? Jerry, what does it say? It says it's 235 and we're actually pranking you You fucking asshole Big bug! April Fool's, Jerry We got you That was so bad Jerry You were not Geno Smith at all That was a double A double doink

16:24Big Cat:Listen we wanted We wanted to hear you try the Geno Smith Yeah And that was really our entertainment for the day And you know what Jerry I've never laughed as hard As I did when you first started talking as Geno Smith I had to push the microphone I almost threw up I was laughing so hard You were big Tom

16:40PFT Commenter:You started as Bing Dom and then you became Southern. And yeah, Jerry, so what happened was we started the show and Max was very nervous about April Fool's. And we were joking and we're like, actually, Jerry texted us and threw out some ideas and I read all your ideas. And PFT was like, actually, I kind of want to see Jerry try Geno Smith. So then we're like, fuck it, let's just reverse prank him. Wow, really good stuff, guys. Really good. You guys are like Jedis. You're Jedi's with this pranking stuff. Yeah, it was interesting. I couldn't. First of all, good one. You're such an idiot for thinking that we all believe that.

17:18You're such a fucking idiot. You're such an idiot. Shut the fuck up, Max. You're such an idiot. You're such an idiot, Jerry. It's crazy that you fell for that. It's insane that you fell for that. I'm scaring this poor young lady who's walking down the street. So old. I'm yelling my phone. Shut the fuck up, Max. Shut the fuck up, Max. Max, shut the fuck up. You fell for that last year hook, line, and sinker, and I was stuttering and everything. I did have to write out everything I was going to say because I have a slight stammer, you know? And if I start to think about words, I stammer. Wait, let me find you my notes.

17:54You don't say. Memes ask you a question about Nick Mangold, and you didn't even think about answering the question. Well, I didn't want to get into, like, serious topics on this thing and say something that was really offensive to somebody, you know?

18:08PFT Commenter:Yeah, we're not Bill Maher. Yeah. Right.

18:16Hey, I like how now that you guys are on Netflix, still no comments there, but these Zooms are fancy now, you know? Like fancy HD Zooms. It's no more just me like FaceTiming with you guys.

18:28Big Cat:Yeah, it's pretty nice. Jerry, I did enjoy your answers. Can you tell us about getting into characters, Geno Smith? Well, actually, Geno Smith is interesting because he – how do I say this without getting canceled? Oh, gosh. I'll tell you what. Yeah. Okay. You're not – it's not – It can't be worse.

18:55PFT Commenter:Yeah. He's got a very distinct way of speaking. He's from Florida, but he spent time in Seattle. toll so i i think he's just got he's got um he's got an interesting cadence my my big um thing was to not stammer or stutter because in the comments uh in that old thing where you guys used to show your show um in the comments you saw a lot like i saw i heard immediately he was stuttering and i knew it was jerry i heard a stammer i heard an um and i knew it was jerry

19:26Big Cat:so i didn't want there to be any ums or anything yeah yeah and and then uh the charity that that Gino has is that a real charity yeah that's that's a real charity yeah was that the charity where he missed the date on the charity thing and then he got punched uh I believe that was about airfare someone wasn't reimbursed or something I don't know maybe um look these are all my notes like by the way you guys really got me I like woke up this morning and this has been like my job all day

19:54PFT Commenter:Hank called it Hank said he was like I bet you Jerry's been spending the entire day on this It's good work, Hank. Maybe you should try it sometime.

20:03Big Cat:Yeah. Yeah. It's called research. Look at this. By the way, Hanky, I wanted to say thank you for Sunday's show, Monday's show for showing us the tootsies. No problem, pervert. Yeah, good tootsies. And then, Jerry, we just discovered today there's a very good chance that there's going to be maybe a Celtics-Knicks or a Celtics-Sixers or a Sixers-Knicks playoff game on Max's bachelor party? Oh, my gosh. Yeah. That's going to be so fun. By the way, sorry I was yelling at you, Max, and called you dumb and everything for falling for that. I'm sorry, too. Yeah. Max, I can't wait for your bachelor party.

20:46I'm literally saving a little bit of money every day. I'm going to have a little nest egg for the party. I'm putting aside a couple bucks every day And I'm just I'm bringing the Narcan I just

21:04It's going to be crazy We're going to lose control You guys have seen me with the briefcase Doing work, coming into the studio All that stuff But by the way You've got to tell me if there's a camera In a place, a camera in a room Camera in a cabana you gotta say because no cameras I think we played golf and remember I was speaking inappropriately inappropriately to you PFT not even more inappropriate than me doing a Gino Smith sorry everyone wow you guys really fucking got me wow you got me so good man I really worked on that all morning

21:45Big Cat:it was awesome Jerry made me laugh so much Yeah, yeah.

21:51PFT Commenter:All right, Jerry, we'll see you in a month. We'll see you in a month. Yeah, can't wait. Oh, I've got wardrobe. I've got all kinds of things. I can't wait. Max, I cannot wait to celebrate you. I cannot wait. I'm excited. I'm excited. You got me, boys. You got me, memes. Memes is the smartest, as always. All right, see you, Jerry. See you, Jerry. Bye, guys. See you.

22:12Big Cat:Oh, that was perfect. Memes also might not be the smartest because when we were waiting to do this, I told memes that we had booked Gino Smith after he had heard us plan out the whole segment and memes got excited about having Gino Smith on the show this afternoon. Yeah. We're a sports podcast. Yeah. We are.

22:27PFT Commenter:We are. All right. Well, let's get... We don't even know where this is going to go in the show because we've disjointed the whole thing, but let's get back to the show. National sports podcast. Let's rip some things. The owners are meeting in Arizona. They sure are.

22:41Big Cat:A lot of sunglasses in the owner's picture, by the way. Well, they finally realized that they have to stare into the sun. Every year. So they bring... I think they...

22:49PFT Commenter:Actually, that was the GM picture. Sorry. The GM picture was all sunglasses.

22:53Big Cat:I think most of the owners went without shades. Yeah. There were a couple that were wearing sunglasses.

22:58PFT Commenter:I don't think the owners took a picture, did they? I don't think the owners...

23:01Big Cat:They should make the owners take a picture, though.

23:03PFT Commenter:Yeah, because I actually saw the GM picture, and I was like, oh, yeah, there's Matt Ryan, the GM for the Falcons. President of the Falcons. Oh, whoops. It's actually in Cunningham who got the promotion. But yeah, the picture has been out. It was probably the most. We have a problem in the NFL. The guys are too good looking. I call this the McVay effect. The McVay tree has made offensive football fantastic in the NFL, but it's also made a bunch of pretty boys who all wear the same shade of blue. And thank God Mike McCarthy, Big Mike is back, because we needed someone like that, an old school football guy who forgot to button one of his buttons.

23:42PFT Commenter:But this is what the new NFL is, pretty boys.

23:45Big Cat:You know what that picture reminds me of? Open it up again, Max. You know the bachelor party of all the dudes at the baseball game? Yeah. They're all leaning over each other? That's what this is right here. Yeah. They're all wearing the same shirt. They all kind of look the same. The one new face that I think is a great addition to the picture is Joe Brady. Yeah. Joe Brady with the fresh fade. I've never been more confident in anything in my life that Joe Brady owned at least seven different Echo Unlimited shirts when he was in high school. and they were all two sizes too big for him and he looked awesome

24:18PFT Commenter:I said in my blog Joe Brady looks like a guy who the first guy in high school who buys a white Jetta and is going to sell you a shitty bag of weed he tricks it out he also might have an earring I looked at it for so long last night I was like I think he has an earring Vrabel just absolutely dominating dominating Halfley like Halfley if you're a Dolphins fan it's not been good for a long time it's going to stay not good. I don't want to look too much into these pictures, but yes, sometimes this picture does tell us something. Like, for instance, Todd Bowles looks like he's just eating his way through the offseason and wearing a gigantic denim muumuu, but Vrabel has just killed Halfley.

24:59PFT Commenter:Killed him. Dominated him.

25:01Big Cat:Yeah, if you look around, the other story in this picture to me is Jim Harbaugh's Band-Aid. Yeah. What happened? Where did he get the gash on his forearm? To me, it looks like it's a cat handling bandage. No. Like one you get when you pick up a stray cat and you try to relocate it. Jim Harbaugh's spread is twice as long. If you look at all the other people's legs, his leg spread is literally twice as wide as everyone else's.

25:26PFT Commenter:No, my theory with Jim Harbaugh is he just happened by a blood bank on the way to the picture. Yeah. And someone was like, hey, sir, could you give some blood? And he's like, Harbaugh blood? Yes.

25:34Big Cat:It could be that. It could also just be he was walking to the picture and he saw a shortcut. Yeah. And the shortcut was like through a hedge.

25:41PFT Commenter:Yeah. But it's always fun watching all the guys get together awkwardly, staring at the sun. Sean McVay not there. I actually think Sean McVay might be embarrassed to what he's done to the league in terms of the pretty boys. What have I done? Yeah. So he's like, I can't even bear it. A lot of tits.

25:57Big Cat:What? A lot of tits.

25:58PFT Commenter:D 'Amico Ryan's nips out hard. It's going to take me a long time to be able to figure out who Mike LaFleur is. Well, he looks like an AI LaFleur. His hair is ridiculous. Jimmy Neutron hair next to Matt.

26:10Big Cat:Yeah. It's pretty boy to the max. I think there's three guys right now that if they sat down next to me, I would not immediately recognize as being a head coach. One would be still Zach Taylor. One would be Michael Flores. Zach Taylor I will never recognize as being a head coach. I would probably be like, oh, hey, nice to see you, Secretary Buttigieg. Yeah. And then who's the other one? Jesse Minter. You probably would. Minter, I think, no, because he looks so much like Nate Borghazi. Oh, yeah. That I would recognize him.

26:41PFT Commenter:Actually, I appreciate Clint Kubiak just being a clone of his dad. Yeah. Because I knew right away that was him.

26:47Big Cat:Shanahan looks like he's been hanging out next to that electric voltage machine. Yeah. Like, he's wasting away a little bit.

26:53PFT Commenter:He's got his security guard back with Robert Salah.

26:55Big Cat:Yeah.

26:56PFT Commenter:The shiniest head ever. Max, are we... Nick Sirianni's... Has he... I have a theory. Is he gaining a little weight? Strong. We've all had shirts that are just a little bit too small.

27:10Big Cat:Yeah. That's it. Is that shirt too small, or is it like his... He looks strong as hell. His arms look strong. His biceps look strong as hell. His stomach... I actually do think he looks way... I didn't realize how big he was until this picture. Yeah, strong. His stomach got higher. Yeah, I think that's strength. Why the buddy pregnant?

27:32PFT Commenter:It's core strength. But it's a great picture. He's standing a little bit away from everyone. I don't know what that's about. I think he's intimidated by Dan Quinn. Why don't they do this for Hard Knocks? Yeah, just lining everyone up. Yeah, so that was the other news coming out of the owners meeting is the Hard Knocks is going to be the Seattle Seahawks. And then they're... Are they announcing two years in a row? Oh, that's... Yeah. Patriots are the next year. I thought that was this year. No, it's crazy. What? Two years in advance. Yeah. Advance.

27:59Big Cat:It's weird. I don't like that at all. Also, the rule used to be if you made the playoffs, you didn't have to do hard knocks the next year.

28:05PFT Commenter:And if you have a new coach, so congrats to Mike Vrabel. He's not getting fired next year.

28:09Big Cat:I guess not. That's weird.

28:12PFT Commenter:Yeah, it is a little weird. It's not like that. Two years in advance. So it's Seahawks and Patriots. Sean Payton doesn't know how to sit. That's his first day of sitting.

28:21Big Cat:I think Sean Payton doesn't care about the coach's picture. He was probably sitting there early in the morning. They built the coach's picture around him.

28:28PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah. Also, John Harbaugh wearing black loafers and white socks is not great for the Joe Biden. Like, did you forget? Did you get dressed in the dark? Hey, Grandpa, let's get you out to the coach's picture.

28:40Big Cat:Isn't that crazy? And I like Coach Harbaugh, but man, it's a tough one to defend. Also, the feet next to his brother. I'm convinced that Jim Harbaugh knows what size shoe his brother wears. Yeah. And then goes out and buys three sizes too big for himself, knowing that he's going to be sitting next to his brother for the picture. Yeah. So I think that the Hard Knocks two years in advance is a really weird thing considering nobody really cares about Hard Knocks anymore. Yeah. We care about the first episode. Yeah, first episode. I would prefer that it's done. I would like to see the refs this offseason.

29:11PFT Commenter:Actually, this is what they should do. For Hard Knocks. Why not just do a first episode for every team?

29:15Big Cat:Yeah, you could do 32 Hard Knocks. We could just never do another episode. I'd like to see Hard Knocks the league office, like following around Goodell. I would like to see Hard Knocks with the referees. That's going to be an interesting story. It's like the referees have been kind of locked out.

29:29PFT Commenter:Yeah, but so as far as I understand it, the refs kind of want to double dip. So they don't want to be full time. What do you mean? They're getting paid$350 ,000 and they also can work outside of refereeing.

29:41Big Cat:I don't know what's going on with the actual negotiations, but I do know that they're actively hiring replacement refs right now. And they're trying to incorporate something in the rules for next year. that would just be like during replacement ref season, if there's a fuck up, we can overrule anything from Sky Judge in New York.

29:59PFT Commenter:I'm just saying like if it is true, I've always just assumed it's like NFL's being cheap. And now this is all a report I got from T-Bob. Hopefully he did his actual research. I trust that he did. But the NFL is being cheap and not paying the refs. But then he's like, no, they're paying$350 ,000 a year. They want to make them full time, but the refs don't want it because a lot of these refs are getting paid$350 ,000 a year to ref, and then they also work at a law firm and double dip. So we got to figure out the ref thing. I also don't care, really, because I'm going to watch even if the refs suck.

30:33PFT Commenter:I think a lot of the refs. $350 ,000 a year is way more than I thought.

30:36Big Cat:Me too. A lot of the refs, I think, love double dipping because being an NFL referee is a great, great advertisement for their law firm. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I got trialed next week, but it's okay. My lawyer's Ed Hockey.

30:47PFT Commenter:I don't know if that's – all right, so I just looked. Yeah,$200 ,000 to$350 ,000 per year. That's a lot. Okay. Why do they – that would be such a sick job to just not have another job. Just do that. Just do that as your only one. By the way, one last thing about the coach's picture. We had Kevin Stefanski on in the combine, and we talked about how I've been trying to get him dressed for this. I missed it this year. So I sent him all of the shirts. I texted him on Wednesday. I was like shirts arrived. He's like, oh, I'm actually already in Arizona on vacation. So the pursuit continues. I did send him.

31:28PFT Commenter:I shaved my balls for this shirt and a couple other shirts. So we're going to try. There will be a year where I get him dressed.

31:35Big Cat:I'm sure he'll probably wear that at the draft or something. It's a nice shirt.

31:38PFT Commenter:It's his shirt.

31:38Big Cat:He'll find an occasion for it. He's got to wear it. So who is missing from the picture besides McVay? Sean McVay and Todd Munkin. would not have guessed Todd Munkin. Todd Munkin also. I think you could take all these guys' faces and combine them into one, and that's probably exactly what Todd Munkin looks like.

31:54PFT Commenter:Yeah, Todd Munkin. Did you see he's got a gold? What did Shador give Todd Munkin that he's got in his office? I think Todd Munkin. I think Shador is trying to maybe pay off Todd Munkin to get the starting job. A labubu? No, it wasn't a labubu. Hold on. I'm going to try to find it. Todd Munkin. I think he someone asked him about this. It's always funny to these interviews with the coaches is they're like having breakfast. And that's the big thing. What? You just searched Monk and Labubu. I just mentioned her. She's doing her. Jimmy Haslam, by the way, said that there's a chance that the Deshaun Watson trade can go from a swing and a miss to a home run.

32:36Porcelain horse head. Porcelain horse head. You leave it in his bed.

32:40PFT Commenter:Yeah. Yeah, and Munkin said if Deshaun had come into my office and gave me an elephant, I would put that in there, too. So it looks like there's some... Is it illegal payments, Todd Munkin?

32:52Big Cat:They're all trying to bribe him for the world's saddest quarterbacking job?

32:55PFT Commenter:Yeah. He's like, hey, that also is a gift that no one wants. I asked him, what was the meeting? He said, well, I really liked it. I got myself one. I said, well, great.

33:06Big Cat:That was it? Wait, so Shador got matching horse heads for him and his coach? Yeah, according to this. Is he talking about a knight? Did he get him a chess set? No, a porcelain horse head. Yes, like the horse from The Godfather for him.

33:21PFT Commenter:Oh, so Shador's saying, if you don't start me, I'm going to kill you. The horse is the Lunar New Year animal for 2026.

33:30Big Cat:Oh, so Chinese good luck. so with Deshaun Watson Happy New Year Chinese Goshi Fai Shai to you yeah there you go with Deshaun he's actually going to start next year I think and it's kind of weird that Haslam has come out there and been like yeah we've really right now if you look at the trade we really fucked it up but there's still time it would be so awkward if Deshaun goes out and is actually like really good at playing quarterback again. Yeah. I think that would make things very strange.

34:05PFT Commenter:It would be very strange. Yeah, very strange. Any other stories from the owners meeting?

34:11Big Cat:No, just that they're thinking about rewriting the rules for the fake refs that might come in. That'll be interesting because basically it'll be like, what's his name, Butterworth? Yeah. Butterworth will be officiating every game all at the same time this year behind a screen.

34:26PFT Commenter:We also did, I should say, one more Browns thing. they rescinded their proposal to allow teams to trade draft picks five years down the road. Yeah. Which, thank God, the Browns were like, oh, shit, this would only hurt us. Yeah. So, good job. And Hank, congratulations. You're going to get your wish. Your owner has said that he wants an 18-game schedule and every team to have an international game. I disagree with the 18-game schedule. Why? Too many games.

34:56Big Cat:I also think... One more game. Grow the game. What about growing the game? Mr. Grow the Game.

35:01PFT Commenter:It actually sounds like the 18th game will be automatic international. Okay, then I like that. I don't know if we were talking about it on the show or if I was reading an article, but they're trying to spread out the games too much. Sunday games are going to get worse. Yeah, we talked about it on the show. Scarcity of it. I very much agree with where it's like the more games they add, the worse the product is going to be somehow. and what seems like an unstoppable force of the NFL, they could fuck this up. And it's also 18 games is just going to lead to 20 games. This is everything the NFL does when they say, hey, we're going to do a game on Thanksgiving, on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.

35:42PFT Commenter:They're not just doing that because it's the Wednesday before Thanksgiving. They're testing out to see if they can do games future Wednesdays.

35:48Big Cat:I mean, 17 games was the biggest no-duh of all time that they were going to eventually get to 18 games. 17 just is an awkward number to end at. But 20, that would probably be another 10 years in the future. But it will happen. But they're going to try to get it. Yeah, but there's going to be no tackling at that point. Well, it would probably be like the other two games will be flag football games that are integrated with the NFL's new flag football league that they have started. But they have 18 games is like the start of the conversation for the next CBA from the owner's perspective. It's like we're not even going to entertain a seven-game season or a 17-game season.

36:21Big Cat:that we're going to start at 18 and you have to accept that or else we're going to lock you out. So it's going to happen. There will be 18 games. I don't necessarily mind 18 as opposed to 17. I think they'll probably do something with a preseason game.

36:35PFT Commenter:They should do the universal buy. Universal buy is good. Universal buy the week before Christmas when you have to do all your shopping and everyone's busy and you're like, hey, maybe there's a Christmas party and you got to be like, hey, guess what? You know what? And we just don't tell anyone that there's universal buy. and we're like, hey, you know what? This weekend I'm not going to watch football. It would be great for everyone. And you could also throw some college football playoff games on there.

36:59Big Cat:Our dear friend Mike Florio kind of dove into it, and I don't think this is fan fiction. He might be on to something. The February 2028 Super Bowl does not have a date to be played on yet, which means they're holding it for the 18th game, and then once they get that solidified, then they'll announce when the Super Bowl is going to be.

37:17PFT Commenter:And that part I'm in for because I have said this before, but as long as football is being played, winter doesn't exist. I know winter sucks, but when you have football games, especially playoff games, so the closer we get the football season to March Madness, if they're basically kissing. A bridge, yeah.

37:36Big Cat:It's great. That's what's so great about going from March Madness to the Masters. It's like you don't have to think about anything.

37:41PFT Commenter:Right, and you go Masters to NBA and NHL playoffs.

37:44Big Cat:It's perfect. And the only other thing that I saw this morning that came out from the NFL meeting was we can scratch one more team off the list of potential opponents for the Seahawks in the opening game. It's not going to be the Chiefs. So Clark Hunt said he doesn't think it's on the table. From a league standpoint, there would be some concern about whether Patrick Mahomes would be ready to go for that game. Oh, we got to make sure. So we have to make sure that the Chiefs have their best starting lineup to open the season because every other team obviously gets the same consideration with having their best players healthy.

38:16PFT Commenter:More Justin Fields maybe. Maybe we want to start the season with Justin Fields.

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38:53PFT Commenter:Hank, how did you sleep on Sunday night?

38:59Big Cat:Good question. I can check my whoop?

39:02PFT Commenter:Yeah, check your whoop. Let's see how you did it. your route because coach k didn't sleep at all wow he said real shame i hope i hope i hope he can rectify that it's because he was waiting by his phone yeah call i uh i'm back coach i'm with coach k i didn't sleep well either because i was i was basically up till 2 30 in the morning watching

39:22Big Cat:the highlight over and over and over and they were all so good every different angle was was perfect the angle with with coach hurley's mom cussing it was awesome it was great i got a solid

39:32PFT Commenter:seven hours oh wow have you thought anything else about that game no way it could happen i mean not only should they have gotten a technical at the end but but the the referee incident well we're going to talk about that with so early you're wrong yeah you're wrong disgusting you're wrong it should not be a case-by-case basis if you do this this is illegal i can go to hr i can go to hr guys can't snuggle anymore violation what i can't put my like guys can't snuggle? What's the matter? Just because we know each other and we're friends, that still does not make that any less of an HR violation. I was just leaning in to listen.

40:11It's illegal, and he should have received a technical. Duke should have got

40:16Big Cat:free throws and won the game. Wait, so Dan Hurley, what was the part of the court that he was standing in at the time? What's it called? That'd be the coach's box. The coach's box. So he's in his environment. I think I'll give you an analogy. Sometimes Blake... I'm in my seat. You still touch me. My dog Blake, when he feels I feel illegal. Overwhelmed, I put him in his crate because that's where he wants to go to get away from all the commotion. If I go into his crate and he gets mad at me, that's on me for invading his personal space. Hank, whose house is it? Let me try another one for you, Hank.

40:44Big Cat:It's my house.

40:45PFT Commenter:Yeah, exactly. Your personal space.

40:46Big Cat:Oh, does the ref own the entire gym? Yeah. Do we not? It's his court. My court, my rules. That's off the court. My court, my rules. That's out of bounds.

40:53PFT Commenter:Hank, every single summer, do we not mourn our sweet prince? Harambe. Yeah. that ref jumped into his cage and they killed Harambe that's what you want to do you want to kill Hurley he's just chilling in his coach's box it was a crazy crazy crazy clip I thought it was AI honestly I couldn't believe it his explanation makes sense but still I believe in the letter of the law and like if you know you make exceptions for this guy and you make exceptions for that guy then we just won't live in a society anymore

41:22Big Cat:can you imagine what would happen if they called a technical and they had Duke shoot foul shots they should have they would have been like Yeah, why is Danny Hurley doing that?

41:30PFT Commenter:Hank, so yeah, we get into all of it with Danny Hurley. Hank, did you know that this was the first time in Duke history that they won 35 games back-to-back years? Did not. Okay. That's pretty good. I learned it because I listened to... It was the first time in Duke basketball history... This is AI. ...that Duke teams won 35 games in consecutive seasons in back-to-back years. Folks, how greedy are you? Are you really going to lament a lost season or something like that in a year where we won 35 games and hung multiple banners? That's for my guys at the Duke Basketball Roundup. Yes, on Monday morning, I looked up every single Duke podcast and listened to all the recaps.

42:08PFT Commenter:Multiple banners. That sounded like Jerry doing a Duke Basketball podcast.

42:11Big Cat:Multiple banners. What banners are they talking about? The regular season? ACC champs. ACC tournament champs.

42:17PFT Commenter:Jimmy V Classic. Multiple banners. Multiple banners. Do you not think that's real? One seed. Hang up a banner for the one seed. Look up the Duke Basketball Roundup. No, I believe it. It just sounded. I believe it, but listen, thinking that it's Jerry. I might be on Jerry watch right now, but.

42:37That's not Jerry.

42:39Big Cat:You're paranoid right now, Max. I am, but it does kind of sound like Jerry. Max, you're seeing ghosts.

42:43PFT Commenter:Shout out my guys at Duke Basketball Roundup. Great podcast. Did subscribe, so appreciate that. They do a great show. It was a great show. I just had so much fun on Monday.

42:56Big Cat:happy for you yeah not at all but it's it's actually been great and i was talking to big t about this and he was confused why we were so excited about duke losing because he said it might be a it might be a generation of bitter no no no in the dictionary and that's big your answer big t um he brought up a great point don't care by the way yes don't care he brought up a great point and he said he thinks that millennials and and above love to celebrate duke losing but gen z and below they don't really care when duke loses and i said that's probably meaner than us celebrating when duke loses is not giving a fuck about yeah also i think that might be kind of true the big

43:37PFT Commenter:t sample sizes it's tough because i don't think he celebrates anything no he's like a jehovah's witness not even a birthday yeah i love big t but he's not the one to go to be like are you happy about this he's just say i'm average right he's not popping champagne but yeah man what a game

43:52Big Cat:He does like Illinois, though.

43:54PFT Commenter:I mean, listen, this is going to be an awesome Final Four. I'm very excited for this Final Four. It does. I love anyone who's saying that it feels like the championship game is Saturday night is just completely discounting Illinois and UConn is crazy to me because I do think that any of these four teams can win it. It does not feel like a consolation game to me whatsoever. Yes, Michigan and Arizona look like the best teams and have the two best records, but that doesn't mean that UConn, Illinois can't be cutting down the nets on Monday.

44:25Big Cat:Yeah, I definitely think it's anybody's game. Memes is on his bullshit again, too, replying to people on Twitter. Oh. This one just dropped. Matt Miller was talking about the Geno Smith. Is this the guy that's going to lead us to the promised land? Matt Miller says, is the promised land the number one overall pick in 2027? And Memes replies, get fucked. Oh, there you go, Memes. Now, Memes, usually it would be like a get fucked, buddy. There's no buddy on there. No, yeah. I said back here, I was like, I'm only responding to one guy. And it's him. And it's him. Yeah. NFL draft scout. But yeah, I think the Final Four is anybody's game for sure.

45:02PFT Commenter:Yeah, it's going to be a great Final Four, and I'm very excited. Hank, do you see Drake Mates shaved his head? Yeah. Who's back? Is that a crisis? Oh, okay. That's a hot sequel to him. Charity.

45:14Big Cat:Oh, it's charity. Charity? What charity?

45:16PFT Commenter:Because sometimes people shave their heads and they're going through a crisis.

45:18Big Cat:Britney Spears.

45:20PFT Commenter:Little Sass when he asked Dave for a raise. Yeah. It's for a great cause.

45:24Big Cat:Or it might be for racism. Yeah.

45:27PFT Commenter:Skinheads. Pirate Simon. Yep. When he got accused of downloading pirate porn in the Barstool offices back in 2013. Boston Children's Hospital. Okay. All right. So shout out to children. Yeah. The kids.

45:40Big Cat:Shout out to kids. For the kids. That's nice. That was a good job by Hank. No, he just completely. Yeah. It's over. Is he donating the hair? How much hair did you have to donate? It's just a thing they've done. Brady did it back in the day, too.

45:51PFT Commenter:Nice. Oh, good. Good. Beautiful. Beautiful. For the kids. Made me want to shave mine. Do you guys... I don't really want to... Did you shave yours? Made me want to. You should. So then do it. Yeah. For the kids. Do you hate the kids? I don't think me shaving my head can raise... I don't know how we raise money for the kids. Oh, I got an idea. What if you shave your head, and then we do a limited edition Hank dog toy that's like$1 ,000 all to a charity and we put a piece of your hair in the dog toy. This is real life Hank. You figure out if that's logistically possible and then I'll consider it.

46:28It's fine.

46:29PFT Commenter:Give me a piece of tape and a piece of hair, dude. Done. We can then get Hank accused for a crime.

46:35Big Cat:Would you do it? Is he sending his DNA across America? I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think so. You don't like the kids. No. we could also do bald Hank toys just no hair it already is bald look at it this is what Hank would look like if he cared about children yeah I care about my children not other people's golf you care about golf exactly

46:55PFT Commenter:so you need to get a greenskeeper that's your Evans scholarship yeah I don't what else we got

47:06Big Cat:Anthony Edwards in the news because he took a shit. Is Anthony Davis playing? Anthony Davis is playing next year. Yeah. Next year. It's going to be super healthy next year. But Anthony Edwards missed the start of the game because he was taking a shit last night. And then his coach tried to use more flowery language to kind of dismiss it. Yeah. Be like, oh, he was indisposed at the moment. And he's like, yeah, I had to take a shit.

47:30PFT Commenter:And then there's a story I read that Anthony Davis was basically famous in high school for practice being delayed for detention and him having to take a shit.

47:40Big Cat:Stefan Diggs.

47:41PFT Commenter:Yeah. Same thing. I don't really want to talk about the Jaden Ivy. That thing is weird.

47:45Big Cat:Yeah, it's very strange. It doesn't seem... I hope he's okay. I hope he's okay, too.

47:50PFT Commenter:Because it seems like it's not great, but then people are making it very religious, obviously. I think the real story should just be that AK, the Bulls GM, is the worst GM in all of sports and should be fired.

48:01Big Cat:So to me, it feels like he's going through a tough... And has been going through a tough time mentally.

48:06PFT Commenter:Yeah.

48:06Big Cat:And this feels like, I don't know what happened behind the scenes, but it feels like the last time that you would want to get rid of a guy. You'd want to help. Like a good organization would want to help him.

48:18PFT Commenter:You just showed your cards right there. Yeah, whatever. He's a good organization.

48:22Big Cat:They would try to be like, hey, are you okay? Yeah. The Bulls are not a good organization. No. Oh, SGA got called for a push off last night. Did you see this? It's breaking news. Breaking moves. Yes.

48:38Big Cat:SGA got called for an offensive foul last night against the Detroit Pistons. I was watching this game, and SGA's still awesome, obviously. Great offensive player. But he does push off, and they blew the whistle for the first time on him. And the crowd in Oklahoma City freaked out. They could not believe that they called him for an offensive foul. And it was. It was a push-off. I don't know if this is a point of emphasis, if that's going to be called on him in the playoffs. My guess is probably not.

49:07PFT Commenter:The faces of the bench in the crowd looks like when Kevin Durant snapped his Achilles.

49:12Big Cat:It looks like the crowd in Dallas during John F. Kennedy's parade.

49:16PFT Commenter:Or actually, I should take that back. It's the Gordon Hayward clip when he breaks his ankle and you see all the Cavs looking on and putting their heads down. That's what that looked like.

49:26Big Cat:Yeah, people just freaking out. They could not believe it. But it was the right call. And I don't know if that's something that the refs are going to be calling in the playoffs. if they are that'll be very interesting to watch but sga is very good at that at doing the like delicate little push off and getting away with it yeah but they might be calling it on also i think we should become a pro wimby for mvp podcast i mean we are well yeah officially but yeah he's insane i don't think he's played enough games personally damn uh he actually has max because there's a limit oh yeah okay the nba sets a limit and if you reach that limit then you are eligible and right now he is eligible for the mvp no yeah it's so wrong wrong that he okay all right any backup for that i mean it's just everyone is all in tears about the fucking you have to play enough games rule right and no one give a fuck about that when when mb was going for mvp but wait but like that no no no you're not understanding what i'm saying now these guys are This is literally the meme.

50:29PFT Commenter:Get in there and make it about yourself. No, this is like a huge thing of discourse in the NBA right now. Okay. Yes. Go ahead. You guys aren't looking at NBA discourse if you guys aren't seeing it. I am. Go ahead.

50:42Big Cat:I really like Wimby for MVP because he has played enough games. So what's your argument? Discourse with us, please. Yeah, discourse. Well, because guys are playing, are overplaying now because they're trying to get to this threshold. and now everyone in the NBA is up in arms being like, this is the worst rule ever. Why do we ever have this MVP rule that everyone has to play? This amount of games to be considered, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, when no one gave a fuck about that because everyone just hates Joel Embiid. I don't think it's about Joel Embiid. It's literally the Joel Embiid rule.

51:15This rule was made because of Joel Embiid.

51:17PFT Commenter:How many did he play in his MVP season? I don't memorize his fucking stats. We're trying to discourse, dude.

51:25Big Cat:That's a relevant stat for the discourse. We're discoursing. The stat was about me taking my four-year-old son, Chris, to NBA games, and I've saved up all year, and he wants to see LeBron James play, and LeBron James comes out in street clothes, flipping him two middle fingers, saying, Fuck off, kid. You ain't getting shit tonight.

51:44PFT Commenter:Yeah.

51:44Big Cat:And then, finally, Adam Silver was like, LeBron, we'd like you to show more respect to the children. Play more, or else we're taking away your prizes. What year did Joe... I'm finding it. I got it. 66 games.

51:56PFT Commenter:So then he would have been fine. Yeah, 65 is the limit. Wembe's played 60. Right, but there's eight more games left.

52:06Big Cat:Maybe nine for him. I don't know the exact argument, but there's an argument to be had.

52:10PFT Commenter:I think you're a little confused. No. Joe Embiid hit the amount of games that would have, if the rule existed would Joe Embiid won the MVP, he would have been eligible. If Joe Embiid had won the MVP. If Joel Embiid had won the MVP in a year that he played 40 games, your argument would make a lot of sense. Right now, it makes no sense. Someone smarter than me is going to make this argument for me because I'm seeing it a lot and it's pissing me off.

52:38Big Cat:Wait for Daddy to come in and make the argument for you.

52:40PFT Commenter:What is the argument? I don't really know. I'm very confused. All right, shut up. Go to the next thing.

52:47Big Cat:Wait, now I want to know. Now I want to know. Would you be upset if Wimby won the MVP and he played in 68 games this year? Would that upset you?

53:03This is a good one that I saw.

53:06PFT Commenter:What is this? This is a podcast, Max. Yeah. You're calling. I was trying to call Roan to try to help you out. because Roan can definitely probably decipher. Roan could definitely decipher what I'm trying to say. But I don't think you're making sense. What's the argument? Max, answer my question. Joel Embiid should have won MVP. Oh, wait, he did. Oh, he did that year.

53:30Big Cat:No, but we're still mad about the MVP that Joel Embiid won? I think Max's argument boils down to you guys should be angry at Victor Wimbanyama for not playing that many games because you were mad at Joel Embiid several years ago.

53:44PFT Commenter:All right, I'm calling Rosillo. Let's see if Rosillo can help. No, he's anti-MB. No, he's no. No, Rosillo is a trusted source. He loves Embiid. That's just not true at all. Okay, we got to get to the bottom of this. Your call has been. Oh, Jesus, everyone. Why doesn't anyone want to talk to us today? No one wants to talk to us about the NBA. No one wants to talk to us about Joel Embiid winning the MVP four years ago.

54:13PFT Commenter:Jeez.

54:17PFT Commenter:What is your argument, Max? He doesn't know. They made a rule because of Joel Embiid because people were upset that he won the MVP and they didn't think that he played enough games. But he played the 66 games.

54:29Big Cat:Yeah, the amount of games he played would be fine under today's rules.

54:34PFT Commenter:So you're just mad that there's a rule that was linked to Joel Embiid? I'm confused.

54:40Big Cat:I think he wants us to be more upset at Wimby for not playing as many games, despite the fact that he's on pace to play more games than Joel Embiid did.

54:48PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right. So this is it. The Joel Embiid rule. And I also remember the 65 game rule first got announced. Everyone was celebrating and also using it to shit on Embiid. Now, all of a sudden, people are realizing the rule sucks and it's hilarious. Okay. People were seething when Embiid won MVP and when the 65 game rule got put in place. I think people were seething that Joel Embiid won the MVP because Jokic was better. But when the 65 game rule got put in place, a lot of people acted like it was the best idea in the world. And that would really show those load management players. The glaring issue with this rule are finally showing and everyone's surprised that players actually get injured while playing a vigorous 81 game where they sprint up and down.

55:29PFT Commenter:OK, so again, what? But he played 66 games. I think they're mad at the rule, not at Joel B. I think that's where you're confused. I think I figured it out. Max is mad because the rule is kind of silly in that guys actually get hurt. SGA actually got hurt this year, right? So it's weird to put an arbitrary number on like, hey, if SGA actually gets hurt and he plays 62 games, but he's the best player, he should still win MVP. I agree with that. Max is just mad that the rule was put in place because of Joel Embiid. But it's not taking away Joel Embiid's MVP because he played 66 games.

56:15Big Cat:He's upset that it's called the Joel Embiid rule. That's what it comes down to. Precisely. The name of the rule feels insulting to him. Yes. So let's change the name, Max. Okay, what do we want to call it? Let's talk about something else. No, let's change the name. We can do this. This is the discourse right now. Yeah, we're doing the discourse. We're the number one sports podcast maybe in the world. I don't know if there's a bunch of cricket podcasts. I'm doing research. I'm reading. We have the ability to influence a new name. Jalen Brown. The Jalen Brown rule? Okay. You want to do that? I don't think you want to do that.

56:49Big Cat:But he hasn't won. Yeah, you don't want to do that. We should get him MVP first. Yeah. No, I think Wimby should win MVP this year. The no pussies allowed unless you're actually hurt rule. Yeah, prove you're injured. Yeah. Hurt or injured rule. Yeah, hurt or injured. Yeah. If you're hurt, you should play. If you're injured, that's okay. We won't hold it against you. Everyone has to be designated with a hurt or injured. Hurt or injured, but it's spelled like H-U-E-R-T-E-R. Hurt or injured. Yes. Zach, where are you weighing on this? But Jalen Brown hurt and injured.

57:19PFT Commenter:He's hurt and injured? I would say hurt and injured. Right now? Played last night. Hearing a lot of Achilles tendonitis rumors. Some call that crippling down the stretch. I'm not sure. Whoa, Nick Zach is coming out right now. I heard he's got a hairline fracture. I love this. That can't be good. Because this is. That was just a head joke. Hank is ready for Max and memes. He's not ready for Zach. I don't give a fuck. No, you're not ready for Zach. I'll take on that whole booth.

57:43Big Cat:Zach is a hoop head. Zach, I got a question for you. Yes, sir. The Achilles tendonitis. Is that what Christian McCaffrey had when he missed, like, basically a full NFL season? Oh, when the walls talked? That would be correct. Yeah. Huh. Same thing? And he had to, like, fly to Germany? Going global for a fix can't be good. Never good. Never good.

58:04PFT Commenter:Right now, it would be Nick Celtics second round, right? You know who's going to be first round? Celtics possibly Sixers if they win the – There's a lot going on. There's a lot going on. It will be Celtics Sixers and Celtics Knicks. That doesn't – there's so much that needs to happen before that. There's seven games left. And the Sixers are a game back of the team in front of them. It will be Celtics Sixers. and then it will be Celtics. No, no, no. They're a game and a half back of the five.

58:34Big Cat:I think I'm going to take Hank's side. No, they're a game and a half back of the six. I think I'm on Hank's side. Yeah, you have that future, right? Well, no, I cashed it out. Pussy.

58:41PFT Commenter:Have you decided what to do with it? Because remember you said you were going to think of something else?

58:45Big Cat:I'm putting all my mental energy into Wimby getting the MVP right now. That's what I'm dealing with. Oh, they're a game and a half back of both. Oh, so you want to apologize to me? Sure. And me. Sorry. Hey, Big Cat, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Will you please accept my apology? I can't believe you got so mad about us saying Wimby should be the NBA. That was actually our April Fool's joke. You guys are fucking talking about Joel Embiid again. It literally is the Embiid. It is the Embiid. But it doesn't matter because Wimby is going to play enough games where he'll play more than Embiid did. I also don't think that's true.

59:22I think it is true. There's seven games left of the season. He's played 59 games.

59:25Big Cat:Fact check. That would be 66. Fact check. I think he has more because he played in the NBA Cup final, bitch. That doesn't count. But it's a game. It's another game. Bitch. It's another game. Bitch. That is not a game. That game does not exist. Bitch. I think it might count for the Joel Embiid rule, bitch.

59:41PFT Commenter:He's actually right about it. That game does not count, PFT. You know that.

59:44Big Cat:I think it counts for the Joel Embiid rule. No. It does not count. None of the stats count. I think it might. Now who's getting angry? I think it might. I'm not getting angry. You're still getting angry. You're the one who said bitch. You're still angry. You're the one who said bitch. You're trying to talk shit about Wimby when some of us put money on Wimby to win the MVP before the season started and are trying to make a lucrative investment happen here, Max.

1:00:05PFT Commenter:We don't do that on this show. Group stage, quarterfinal, semifinal count. The NBA Cup final does not count. For the Joel Embiid rule? Correct.

1:00:15Big Cat:Bitch. I don't know about that. There's been a lot of wrong information.

1:00:20PFT Commenter:This is where the podcast is at its best where no one knows any facts. But we are aggressively going at each other.

1:00:29Big Cat:I think I read that because they were in the NBA Cup Finals, did the schedule get pushed back at all where they have an additional game? No, the game doesn't exist. No, I know that game doesn't exist, but I think they might have more games left in the regular season than some other teams do.

1:00:50PFT Commenter:I mean, well, of course, it's never even. Right. But no, a lot of teams are at 75 games right now, including the Spurs. Like the Spurs are at 75, the Thunder at 76, the Pistons are at 75, the Celtics are at 75, the Knicks are at 75. So, yeah, I don't think so.

1:01:11Big Cat:I think they might.

1:01:14PFT Commenter:We've learned nothing. This is good. I mean, listen, when there's not a lot going on, we just – no one will do research.

1:01:22Big Cat:And we'll come in with some very strong opinions. Zach, are you worried about the Knicks not beating anybody? There's a world where that's true, but I'm not worried about that now. Seems like it should be. They haven't really beaten anybody recently. But you got to believe sometimes. I'm okay with being a little bit delusional. I like that. And that's where I'm going to start here. We're going to start delusional. We're going to finish strong.

1:01:43PFT Commenter:Would saying out loud that you're okay being a little delusional mean you're not delusional? That didn't help my case whatsoever now that I hear you repeat it back. Right, because the minute you admit you're delusional, it's like, well, actually, you're pretty grounded. Maybe I'm misreading my own delusion. Okay. Could be the case. Yeah. Okay, let's do Hot Seat Cool Throne. Then we have Danny Hurley on the show. It is brought... Most people who have tried to day trade have lost money. Top Step helps you learn the right way. You start in a trading combine, think of it like a trading tryout. Show them you can hit the profit target without blowing the account, and they'll back you up with up to$150 ,000 in buying power to trade with.

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1:03:39PFT Commenter:We couldn't figure out why. Why? It's good for us. Yeah.

1:03:44Big Cat:But no, Roan, I think that Max was upset because everybody made fun of Wemby when he won the MVP playing 66 games. Embiid. Embiid. You said Wemby. You meant to say Embiid. I'm sorry. Embiid. Roan, I think Max is upset because when Embiid won the MVP playing 66 games, people made fun of him. But now Wemby is going to win the MVP playing like 67 games. 66. And nobody's making fun of him.

1:04:10PFT Commenter:I'll make fun of Wemby if that's what we want to do.

1:04:13Big Cat:Does that make you feel better? That's my guy. All right. Should we make fun of him? We can make fun of Wemby. That'd be nice. But only in the sense of like, yes, he won the MVP. He deserves to win the MVP. But also, let's make fun of him on top of that. We don't want to besmirch him too much. Some of us have a lot of money tied up in Wemby MVP futures. I love that. I mean, the real MVP is Jalen Brown, but that's a whole lot. Thank you. Thank you. Wow. Hey. Thank you.

1:04:38PFT Commenter:Thanks, Saint. Thank you. Okay. Well, I think we figured out. It was just like Max got so – it was essentially like when one of – like when your child is having a tantrum and you have to call – like my wife will do it sometimes where one of my kids will be having a tantrum show at the FaceTime and he'd be like, can you please talk to them and talk them down off the ledge? That you were the parent we were getting to have Max calm down. Max, I mean I get it, buddy. They're always going to be hating on somebody from Philly. They're always going to have a worse read on somebody from Philly. He's right.

1:05:14Oh, I love it.

1:05:20PFT Commenter:I love it. All right, Max said you're right. Thank you, Roan. All right, see ya. All right, that's great. I don't like that he said he wanted the Celtics, but maybe that's how I should be. He's not a pussy.

1:05:31Big Cat:Well, who do you think should get coach? I'm a pussy. Who do you think should get coach of the year award?

1:05:35PFT Commenter:Wait. Oh, that was great. Joe Mazzula?

1:05:39Big Cat:Hmm? That quote? You see that? Yeah. Joe Mazzola said, I think it's a stupid award. You shouldn't have it. It's about the players and the work the staff puts in. It's that simple. I really don't want to be asked or talk about it again. I have a question.

1:05:52PFT Commenter:Max, have you been looking at the NBA standings basically every day being like, please don't have it be the Sixers versus the Celtics? Correct. 100%.

1:06:01Big Cat:Max, follow-up question. That's what I said. He's like, there's a lot of games left. Yeah.

1:06:06PFT Commenter:It is head. He's like, there's just no way this could happen. It's happening.

1:06:09Big Cat:Max, is there a possibility that this game could happen? We're going to have the two seed. On your bachelor party? Yes, it could. I think it was like game seven could happen. Wow. That would be a shame. There's no way it gets to game seven. Yeah, that's true. If it gets to game seven. Why, is Sixers going to win that quickly? That would be bad. That would be such a shame if that happened on your bachelor party.

1:06:29PFT Commenter:Oh, my God. All right, hot seat cool to run Hank. The hot seat is Jordan's Furniture. Okay. I guess New England. It's a New England furniture place. They did a deal like January through March. If you bought furniture or anything in the store, it's like a huge warehouse size store. If both UConn teams make the championship, not even win, make the championship, everything you bought is free.

1:06:56Big Cat:So shouldn't they be on the cool throne? Hot seat, they might have to lose. They might be losing money. Yeah.

1:07:02PFT Commenter:But they're not going to lose any money. Why? They always take out insurance on this. I guess. It's just a gimmick. Run the rules by me again It's like Mattress Mac You have to buy something Anything purchased between January 20th and March 4th It's usually in March If you bought it in between that time period And both UConn teams make the championship Everything is free

1:07:29Big Cat:So how does that work Is this a Massachusetts area store It's like New England There's a few in New England Okay. What's the - It's one of those stores that has malls in them. What's the crossover percentage of Patriots fans? They have an IMAX theater in Jordan's Furniture. What's the crossover of Patriots fans who are also UConn fans? Huge. Is it the majority? I think Connecticut's - I think, yeah.

1:07:52PFT Commenter:Connecticut as a state is half and half.

1:07:55Big Cat:They've had it so good. The UConn fans that are also Boston sports fans have had the best life.

1:08:00PFT Commenter:I feel like half of the western southern part of Connecticut is like New York. Yes. But yeah, this is a great. It is Mattress Mac. Remember, he used to do that with the Astros. It's a great deal because you just take out an insurance policy. And if you sell a shitload of furniture, I like to do that.

1:08:18Big Cat:If all four Washington sports teams make it to their finals in the same year, I will give away all my money to one person. Okay. In perpetuity. In perpetuity. I would never earn another cent in my life. No, I'm saying, like, yeah, so it's not this year. It's just... One person would just get every salary I would ever make.

1:08:34PFT Commenter:All they have to do is go to the finals?

1:08:36Big Cat:If all four in the same calendar year ever make it to the finals. And two of them have to win. What do they have to... Whoa! Two of them have to win. What do they have to do in return? I think that's fair. In return. Not absolutely nothing. They have to enter... They have to... Listen to part of my take. Yeah. Prove... Show me one proof of purchase that you have downloaded an episode of part of my take. Subscribe. And I will decide on one person. I like that. I'm a great guy. And guess what? Not only will I give you all my salary, but then I'm going to match that and give away that amount to charity in one lump sum when it happens.

1:09:10PFT Commenter:How would you do that? Because I'm going to save money until then. Got it. Futures.

1:09:15Big Cat:I'm going to give away all my money that I already have to charity. And then one person will just take over my income from that point. I like that. You're welcome, America. What a great guy. Thanks, BFT, for the kids. my cool throne is wild wild what the lottery ball numbers on sunday show oh yeah 73 72 73 72 yukon duke that's wild that is wild we're also very dumb for not picking up on that in the so

1:09:43PFT Commenter:stupid would have been great moment yeah totally ruined by our idiocy yep happens a lot yeah but

1:09:49Big Cat:wild wild very wild okay pft uh my hot seat is protein bars oh because there's a new product that's uh it's debuting in saudi arabia right now it's hookah but it's protein and bcaas like branch chain amino acids this is just protein but for hookah it's bro it's my protein idea but it's you smoke it so they have like these big lounges yeah you have these big lounges that you go to after you're done working out. You can even have them in the gym, and you sit down, and you just chill, and you just smoke your protein after you work out, which sounds fucking hilarious. I don't know how effective it is.

1:10:32Big Cat:How much protein are we talking? How much protein per rip? I think this is still in the nascent phase. They're still studying. It's not even beta yet, I don't think. but yeah they're rolling them out right now in riad and then dubai abu dhabi and bahrain so a doctor claims that uh inhaled protein enters the bloodstream faster and absorbed more efficiently it's kind of like weed like if you eat a brownie it takes a long time for you to get high but if you smoke it you get high like immediately right this guy's thinking about that except for gains huh like the gains happen more immediately if you smoke it okay all i'm saying is like keep your eye on this on this technology because it has protein shisha it has the opportunity to revolutionize bro culture yeah i like this um then my cool throne is going to be jordan did you see what queen did you see what happened with jordan over the weekend no she had another chip she got another ring what yeah jordan won a ring uh she talked a lot of shit to all the haters uh that called her a gold digger she said hashtag gold digger got paid and this was a national championship that they won uh the cheer for charity c4c national championship jordan hudson's cheerleading team they won the title so good for her the pictures that she posted were pretty fantastic they look very accomplished very proud no pictures of bill i don't know if bill was at this or not probably hard at work on the recruiting trail um but yeah if listen you can call jordan hudson a lot of things but you better call her national champion i call her winner yeah she's a winner

1:12:13PFT Commenter:national champion yeah okay my hot seat is uh tiger woods because we got some more details yeah and uh he had some pills loose pills in his pocket also had a vicious case of the hiccups

1:12:28Big Cat:which was reported hiccups that's not evidence of a crime as as a lawyer or somebody who who would like to study for the bar exam at one point they can't arrest you for having to pass the bar exam yes yeah correct which you're gonna do which i will do eventually percent but he had the hiccups

1:12:44PFT Commenter:he had the hiccups they said he had a vicious case of the hiccups uh yeah not good not good to have he admitted to doing his medication earlier in the day um yeah doesn't seem like he was of sound mind and body when driving this car so he was sweating profusely and his movement was lethargic and slow while he's being interviewed by the police they found two hydrocodones in his pocket

1:13:09Big Cat:yeah and a lot of people are like why didn't he get rid of those in the time after the crash before the cops showed up i would say like maybe imagine what he did get rid of in the time in between when he crashed and the cops showed up yeah and he still had those left over yeah not good not good he should just never drive again it's the only place he feels normal yeah it's true he goes to Get away from it all.

1:13:33PFT Commenter:Yeah. No, it's bad. It's bad. He's got to get it figured out because this is like, again, someone could easily die. And it's really, really, it's selfish behavior. How crazy would it be if he still plays the Masters? No chance. He's still on the. Yeah. Well, yeah, because. He's still listed. And he's opening a golf course next to Augusta that next week. So he'll probably be there. Maybe. How crazy would it be if he plays? I mean Scott Van Pelt told us Masters is the one place he's going to play forever because the fans are not aggressive. They don't have phones. Everyone reveres him. It's not like going to play at a U.S.

1:14:13PFT Commenter:Open where people will heckle you. So maybe.

1:14:17Big Cat:Damn. They should just call the parking lot of his new course the driving range. Just get some practice in. Try shots that you haven't tried before.

1:14:26PFT Commenter:our good friend Kate our colleague Kate she said why doesn't he he's so rich why doesn't he just build a course in his backyard that he just flip his car every day like Travis Pastrana yeah just go oh Tiger you want to go drive okay go flip your car in the backyard don't hurt anyone Nitro Circus yeah

1:14:48Big Cat:so I think it'd be kind of crazy if you played and what if you played well how would the announcers talk about it

1:14:54PFT Commenter:be insane be insane.

1:14:55Big Cat:I think they'd immediately jump to what a redemption story this is. Oh, yeah. Oh, the Tiger

1:15:02PFT Commenter:fanboys would be insane. Let's go, Tiger! He doesn't even have to win.

1:15:08Big Cat:He'd have to just make the cut. Yeah, if he makes the cut. Is this the most impressive sports story that we've had in the last 10 years? Yeah. What DUI? Tiger making the cut at Augusta after getting arrested for DUI seven days before.

1:15:23PFT Commenter:murder what murder

1:15:25Big Cat:remember that clip

1:15:26PFT Commenter:it was a great clip the guys in New York John Gotti murder what murder you have a clip for me Max look at you murder John Gotti's a good guy other hot seat is Mark Cuban because he's got some seller's remorse he's kind of this has been rumored for he's buying it again well he's trying to buy it back yeah yeah he basically was like I don't regret selling the team i regret so to who i sold it to and uh he said he made a lot of mistakes in the process i still don't understand what mark cuban thought was going to happen when remember when he was announced that he sold the majority stake he's like but nothing's changing they said he was

1:16:07Big Cat:going to be kept around for for basketball decisions no you aren't no one buys a billion

1:16:12PFT Commenter:dollar organization they're like yeah you know what let's keep the old guy around who did who

1:16:16Big Cat:is a minority stake owner now one thing that mark cuban is very very good at is keeping his name in the news yeah so when he said that it was like yeah i did sell the team but but please continue to treat me as if i still own the correct and then now he's talking about rebuying the team so that people will continue to talk about more cuban yeah like i know you guys just figured out that i don't actually still own the team but don't worry because i'm about to buy it again so if you could just keep talking about me as if i own the team until that point everything will

1:16:43PFT Commenter:be copacetic so mark cuban back in the news uh my cool throne is uh it's me because i'm on our let's check hour 43 of my fast and I don't feel hungry at all I just might be a fast guy

1:17:00Big Cat:are you going 72

1:17:01PFT Commenter:I don't know I miss food I'm not hungry how's your phone battery been fine 43 hours what do you think about that memes well you're charging it right now well yeah I will say it's kind of it's kind of sick you get through the first like 14 to 18 hours you hunger kind of goes away i need you to just keep track of things over the course of days and weeks using this stuff yeah have you had like any lapses in memory any uh tiredness no i woke up he's drinking uh water black coffee that's it there's a little uh i bought some electrolytes on on online that you just put into your water i did that like twice yesterday that's it i feel great i do miss eating because i like eating but i might just be a fast

1:17:54Big Cat:so when you go back to eating back to food life then you're just going to eat like normal yeah

1:18:00PFT Commenter:i'm going to slowly try to i've i i retract what i said last week where i was like i'm just going straight back into regular food people are like that will essentially reverse everything you did and make you feel like a garbage human being so i am going to to i'm going to do it the right way and I'm going to ease myself back in.

1:18:17Big Cat:And then, like, will there be any, like, permanent effects of the fast on your body?

1:18:21PFT Commenter:Yeah, all my cells regenerated.

1:18:24Big Cat:Oh, so it's a new you. Correct. Literally unrecognizable. Correct.

1:18:29PFT Commenter:It's good for gut health. It's good for... What does gut health mean? Don't worry about it. What does the fucking 65 game rule mean? And how does it apply to Embiid? There were many seasons that Embiid didn't get to 65. Yeah, you know why? Because he didn't have guts. Yeah, exactly. Nor health.

1:18:48Big Cat:I'm doing well. Everyone should try it. It's easy. It's actually not that hard. We should actually do a segment where it's just like six degrees of separation from Joel Embiid.

1:18:57PFT Commenter:Yeah.

1:18:58Big Cat:How can we make any story about Joel Embiid?

1:19:00PFT Commenter:Mm-hmm.

1:19:02Big Cat:Zach. Yes, sir.

1:19:05PFT Commenter:How'd she cool throw? How'd she cool throw? I would like to say we do have to respect gut biomes around here. Yep. How'd she eat this week? It's going to be people who think it's a good idea to invest in their future. monetarily. Did anyone see Warren Buffett talking about stocks plummeting?

1:19:18Big Cat:No. No, what do you say? I just saw a video of Warren Buffett being like, hey, all Americans be prepared, 40 % drop. What? So I'm wondering, do we rethink... We shouldn't do stocks. There's got to be new ways to invest. Are stocks done? Protein hookah bars. Bitcoin? Do you think those make you full? The protein shisha? When you smoke it, you think you get satiated? I think you just get jacked up. I think you just rip a bong and then you walk away and you're fucking a beast. You look like that Florida Gators fan.

1:19:45PFT Commenter:No offense, but I can't be having this conversation. I don't eat food anymore.

1:19:49Big Cat:Well, that actually would... Then the protein hookah would be perfect for you. Yeah, maybe I could do that. Great way for people who fast. I don't know. No. But wait, so Zach, so Warren Buffett said the stock market's going to crash. He said 40%, which feels like a... I know that's not a majority when it comes to percentages, but it feels like a majority. That's a lot of percent. Feels like it's all the money, right? We don't want that percent. A big percent. It also sounds like somebody might be trying to crash the market so that maybe then he could buy more of the market. I just put money in the stock market for the first time in my life last week.

1:20:17Oh, yeah. So there's your sign.

1:20:19Big Cat:I'm calling my financial guy. Yep, there's a bubble. Max has jumped in. Okay, good hot seat. And should we still be – is Warren Buffett still in the game? Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's still the guy even at that age? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's good to know. Still alive. You know what? He might be still alive guy of the year. Yeah, he could be. Put Warren Buffett – Is somebody doing a list for the takeies?

1:20:44PFT Commenter:I don't think so. Yeah, I've got a short list.

1:20:46Big Cat:All right, put Warren Buffett as a nominee for Still Alive Guy of the Year. I can do that, sir.

1:20:51PFT Commenter:Okay. All right, what's your cool throne? In my cool throne, I was going to get into a little bit of Wimby talk because he dropped another 40 piece last night, but we won't do that because we covered a lot of Wimby.

1:21:01Big Cat:Zach, do you think he should be MVP? Right now, yes. Love that. I agree. He's creeping on breaking basketball territory. Yeah, I agree. Mm-hmm. and uh so we'll pivot there and we'll just go you know did you guys see colorado rockies dropped pizza donuts yeah yeah i've never seen that kind of mix it mix him before not a fan you're out on the pizza donut i think it's too much is it too savory or is it just like too out there i guess

1:21:24PFT Commenter:i gotta know exactly how it's due because like a donut burger makes sense to me because you could like a sweet glazed donut with a hamburger meat makes sense tomato sauce on a donut doesn't make sense no i disagree with everything that you just said okay great because i don't think there's any sweetness i don't think there's any sweetness i think it's just like the a plain donut with like no glaze or anything but it's just savory and the crust is donut instead of like sweet all right i'm

1:21:58Big Cat:willing to try so pizza is dough talk me through what's on this donut here so we got you we'll go unsweetened. So we got donut, right? Base. Then we got garlic butter which gives us that good garlic.

1:22:10PFT Commenter:See, that's already where... Pepperoni cheese pesto with the drizzle. I would eat the fuck out of this.

1:22:16Big Cat:So that's not asparagus on top. That's a drizzle. That's pesto drizzle. Okay, which, okay, that makes me change my mind a little bit. Is it a glazed donut? Like, is it sweet or the glaze is... I just said this. The glaze is the garlic. Glaze is the garlic. Think in that terms. Yes, the glaze is the garlic. Wait, so there's no glaze. It's just a regular plain donut. Garlic glaze.

1:22:34PFT Commenter:I think that's good then. Fine. But that also. But if it's a sweet donut and you put that on there, I think it's bad. Do you agree with me, Max? I agree. If it's a sweet donut, out. So out. You can only be in one lane of donut with this pizza. Like, whereas the donut burger, you can make it sweet. See, I'm out on that. I think that's too much. I don't really like it, but I'm saying, like, I understand it. I like hey listen I don't even like chocolate covered pretzels because I like to separate my sweet and savory so you guys are out on the bacon on the sweet donut what are you looking at me like no chocolate covered pretzel I like to eat the chocolate then the pretzels then back to the chocolate then back to the pretzels and then it I've said this before but the the hardest thing that I have to go through I know this is going to be a struggle uh it's it's at night trying to figure out what i end with savory or sweet it's fucking it's torture i think that uh the savory

1:23:30Big Cat:sweet combination for most donuts is something that's mostly meant for people to take pictures of and post online and not actually something that most people enjoy eating all these all of

1:23:39PFT Commenter:these ballpark things are exactly that yep boozy ice cream oh i'm okay with actually did you guys see costco the uh we need to get one of these did you guys see i'll get one this weekend maybe i'll get one before friday show they have a 10 pound giant chocolate bunny that is so big instructions

1:23:59Big Cat:uh with a hammer yeah you have to break it open with a hammer to eat it they also have a uh

1:24:04PFT Commenter:costco there's not no free ads they have a bottle of uh whiskey that's uh called i got that dog in me it's hot dog uh whiskey hot dog flavored whiskey i was immediately when i saw the bunny

1:24:14Big Cat:i thought that is a barstool after dark stream waiting to happen yeah yeah eat the bunny put the bunny chocolate football was for everyone that's true yeah that's very true have you so i put max on these last week the chocolate covered gummy bears at trader joe's amazing yeah they're they're

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1:25:24PFT Commenter:okay we now welcome on a very very very very special guest he's a recurring guest it is head coach of the connecticut huskies final four bound dan hurley coach it feels like a tradition every year around this time three out of last four you're in the final four uh and i want to talk about everything that transpired in the lead eight but we have to start with the most pressing question the head butt the head butt with roger airs what's going on there it was not it well head hug yeah there you go i don't know you ever see reindeer where they kind of like with each other's nose they kind of my dog does that sometimes

1:26:11Big Cat:With like the top of his head? Yeah, more of a nuzzle, an affectionate nuzzle. No, with Roger, all these refs are different, right? They all got different thresholds or personalities. Roger's like very playful. I mean, listen, the guy is, he's one of the greatest refs ever. You know, like the guy, he don't mess up a lot of calls. you know when it's when you're going too far he'll give you a look and you know you know he'll tee your ass but but he's playful he's funny he messes with you during the game you you bust his chops back and it was just so like I would say that there's a lot of coaches that that he refs that you have a much different type of relationship with Roger than you do with pretty much every other official.

1:27:06He's funny. He's playful. It wasn't like, I almost wanted to either chest bump him or kiss him on the forehead when we hit that shot. It was like more like, I was almost expecting Roger to be happy for me, but then I realized, oh no, this is a ref.

1:27:22Big Cat:Yeah, I was saying that you should consider kissing the ref next time because I don't think they'll tee you up for that. I think they'd just be like, wait, what just happened? Nobody could be mad at you after the fact either. it's like oh love is love one on each cheek like they do in italy yeah yeah yeah and it was it was

1:27:40PFT Commenter:very clear in the moment it wasn't a uh premeditated it was because i i i was defending you i said that it looked like he was trying to tell you something and it was so loud that you most people listen best when they're forehead to forehead and that's what you were trying to do you're just leaning in to listen yeah he was coming listen he was coming in to say hey listen and there's going to be, you know, 0.3 on the clock or whatever. But, again, it's like it's different with Roger. Roger, this wasn't like the Marquette situation, you know, where, you know, this was different because Roger, you know, Roger's just a, he approaches officiating in a way different manner.

1:28:23he diffuses like you know with with humor um like he's just uh man he's he's one of the best yeah

1:28:31PFT Commenter:and i think it also was just the look in your eye did you black out because it looked like you blacked out well my jacket i mean if you just look at everything that was going on there it was i was like the jim valvano the late jim valvano uh you know verse houston only there was still time left as but I did start running a little bit and I never win a game like that I think the only time I've ever won a game at the buzzer was on like a tip-in put back otherwise I either lose at the buzzer or I never win at the buzzer yeah but yeah there was definitely a blackout because I didn't even reporter asked me like right after the game how we got the ball back and I couldn't even remember that they turned the ball over.

1:29:21PFT Commenter:Yeah. You know, like you're just so much, you know, hysteria and excitement and you're shooting horrible, but you're, you know, like you're one for 17 from three and you're down seven. And you're saying to yourself, man, if we could just make a couple shots, we're going to walk these guys down and beat them. Because you look at the condition that they were in, they looked tired. They were kind of just hanging on. Boozer's eye was all swelled shut. I mean, you know, like it was, man, it was just a crazy game.

1:29:58Big Cat:I heard that your assistants didn't even tell you how bad the shooting performance was for UConn. Is that true? You asked them and they wouldn't give you a straight line? They were lying to me. They were outright lying to me. Luke Murray was lying to me. That's why I sent Luke to Boston College today.

1:30:17PFT Commenter:Yeah, it was crazy. It was an unbelievable game. This is why we love the tournament. I have a theory, and you can tell me if this is way off, but I actually feel like the most important part of that game was not the end, was not like the last four minutes. It was actually like the last three minutes of the first half because you guys were getting dog walked. And then you had a little stretch where Duke missed. I don't think they scored a bucket for like three minutes. How important is that, though, when you're going into the locker room where it's like, hey, we're down 19, we're down 20, whatever it may be.

1:30:46PFT Commenter:can we just cut it to like 11 12 so that we have something going into halftime where we can be like hey guys we're right there yeah i mean it was a i mean it was a crap show at that point uh you know or or you could use the other word we were i mean and tariff reed was like really the only guy that was playing well for us and he was in foul trouble and he was on the bench with two fouls so um and it was 19. And if that game gets, that game gets to mid twenties or even low twenties, it's going to be, it's going to be tough. But, you know, Malachi Smith, you know, a little dude from the Bronx made some plays there and, and you know, we're able to just get it to 15.

1:31:29And, and I've been in, I've been in locker rooms in the NCAA tournament where you got the doom and gloom and, and it's quiet and it's eerie, you know, 22 when we lost to New Mexico State. You know, that locker room was like a dead locker room. Our locker room was – it was a pretty healthy locker room. You know, the guys felt like, you know, we were going to walk them down. We were just going to kind of, you know, wear them down, you know, body blows, possession by possession, make some defensive adjustments, try to get after them a little bit more, turn them over, and then just, you know, just pray that you just finally make some shots.

1:32:07and we finally made some shots.

1:32:10Big Cat:Did you see the video after the game, the live reaction that your mother had in the crowd? Yeah, I saw it. That was an incredible moment, I think. Yeah, I lived it. Yeah. That's where people, they should stop blaming me and they should blame my mother and my family and my parents and where I grew up and how I grew up and how I was parented. People get very, I trigger people. with the way I go about my pursuit of victory and coaching. And now you see where it comes from. You know, that's my mother. Yeah. That's what my father. Yeah. Your mom was locked in and it was a great. Cursing a lot too. Yeah.

1:32:57Big Cat:A lot of cursing. It was a great shot because I think it showed Carlos Boozer and he goes, holy shit, when the ball got stolen. And then immediately panned over to your mom and your mom goes, holy fucking shit when you when you make the shot it was like this is awesome this is the best 10 second video clip i've seen of uh of the stands and i coach i don't know if you had a chance to send it or to see it i sent it to you last night uh we re we recreated that final shot here uh myself big cat and the rest of the guys on part of my take we recreated the final sequence have you had a chance to look at that yet no i haven't viewed it yet um where did you i dm'd it to you on x.com the everything app.

1:33:39Big Cat:It's all happening on X. It's on our part of my take socials. Yeah, you can watch it there as well. First take.

1:33:44PFT Commenter:I took the

1:33:45Big Cat:shot. First take. Big Cat took the shot. I think I was Caravan. I was Caravan. Who deflected it? Who stole it?

1:33:54PFT Commenter:That was our guy Jacob and myself. It was Rico. Was Rico involved? Rico was not involved. We did have it was pretty mean of us. We had Hank who is a Duke fan. he played the role of Caden Boozer, so that wasn't very nice of us.

1:34:09Big Cat:Zach played Carlos Boozer. Cameron Boozer. And Memes played John Shire.

1:34:16PFT Commenter:By the way, another underrated part, because I've watched every video. I hate Duke so much, and I thank you so much for doing this. Your wife was incredible in the moment, too. She had everyone saying, get back on the bench. She always is. Yeah. And she knows nothing. She was on top of it. Like, get on the bench. Get on the bench. Yeah, she's a boss. I mean, she's a Jersey boss lady. And her language is colorful, too. I mean, she was grabbing people around the back of their warm-ups. She doesn't know anything about basketball. You know, like I sent her on the plane. This is wild, huh? three out of four years you go into the final four did you ever imagine this with your life and she's like I didn't even know the final four existed until four years ago

1:35:13Big Cat:that's great I saw that one interview with you guys and she doesn't really understand how good you are at your job has she started to figure that out by now? no no no she does not I mean she she her motivational tactics are probably like the opposite. You know, like when things aren't going well, she makes me feel worse. You know, like coming off of the St. John's loss in the Big East tournament, she didn't try to build me up before the NCAA tournament. She was like very negative in telling me, you know, hey, you're not as good a coach as you think you are. You know, I'm not very confident in you going into the tournament.

1:36:00Big Cat:you know so that's good keeps you humble so you you never talk basketball with her at home no she she um well i just she always thought that uh a three-pointer was a three shooter so like if somebody would hit a not a three-point shooter but a made three was not a three-pointer it was a three shooter okay you know and then just in terms of like she understands like when you're on offense and you're on defense but like does not know what an assist is does not know what a turnover is does not know what a zone defense is you know doesn't i think she knows that you gotta have five players not if you're nebraska does she know uh does she know that if you're struggling to advance the ball up the court you take a timeout she um she might know that yeah by the way you you tried to take a timeout i was caught i don't i don't know if the if if if the fingers touched the the palm but they were

1:37:11PFT Commenter:that was savvy of you i actually was in the gambling cave yelling for a timeout so i was the idiot. It was like, you get the ball back, timeout. But I think that that was a savvy move by you because you did enough of the motion that if the shot doesn't go in, all UConn fans can basically say, well, we tried to take a timeout. And not enough of the motion for it to actually be a timeout. It was like, ah, ah, ah. But the thing that helped us, I think, really, is the best thing for you at that point of a game is obviously a deflection, right? Just some type of deflected pass. And the worst thing that could have happened for us was if Cam Boozer just held on to that ball when he was getting trapped initially on the first pass because most referees at that point, they call a quick foul on that because there's not a lot of time left.

1:38:05So what kind of helped us was that Saar took the ball out, who's not a good free throw shooter, and we were kind of late getting to him which caused that next pass like we couldn't – like we wanted to foul him or Big Pat because they were not good free-throw shooters. But the fact that he was taking the ball out, got that ball thrown to him so quickly. We tried to foul him, but he's not a good free-throw shooter, so he got rid of the ball. But just with every pass that you throw in that situation, you're just – you're playing with fire that something's going to get deflected. and uh yeah like the the building froze when that when that ball got deflected you could just feel the oh you know what in the building and it was almost like the murmuring and just the the like uh like help guide that ball in the basket yeah yeah yeah it felt like it was one of the shots

1:39:04Big Cat:that was like meant to be the second after went in you're like yeah this was always going to happen And that's perfect March Madness. And then you lost – did you lose your lucky pin off your jacket? Oh, no. I think Roger took it. Oh. During the headbutt, he pickpocketed. The nuzzling. The headhuck. Yeah. It was like he took my class ring or whatever. Yeah, the pin means a lot to me because I set up a shrine. Who's the guy from Major League? Roger Dorn? No, the one that would sacrifice. Oh, Joe Pedro was the little thing. Yeah. Yeah. So I have like a little setup like that for myself in the locker room in the pregame.

1:39:48I have all of my essential oils that I like to spray. Your piss.

1:39:52Big Cat:Your piss you like to drink. That's out. That's ready at the court. I mean, this is more like my spritzers. My, you know, the lavender, holy water. Okay. Burt's Bees, a Peppermint Halo. I'll gargle quickly because you've got to go say hi to the other coach. I think that's unpleasant if you don't scope before you go out there. And then I have any little mementos from the season after games we've won. Like if we had like an autism pin or a breast cancer pin and we won that game, I'll keep it, you know? So I have this shrine that I create. so all i could think of is i need that for my shrine in indianapolis and then when my brain gets consumed with something it it stays there yeah no way and so i would never imagine you're that type of guy the pin is mia m turley found it though a trusted soldier okay the ga trusted soldier he found it under the bench he found the pin and delivered it to me and now it's in my my little michael jordan carry case that that i bring to create my shrine that's good and then after the game i saw you were taking good care of your lucky suit you took that off before any of the the festivities did you you took the underwear off too because i saw you wearing a towel yeah i did i um because i had the dragon underwear and i i felt it inappropriate to go into the press conference uh would you say commando or whatever people say yeah yeah yeah um so i just figured let me just risk it with the towel and tie it tight and preserve uh the socks the underwear and and the suit yeah championship experience you know just experience in championship locker rooms prepares you to be smart in that moment yeah yeah i mean you gotta you you can't change up anything that you're doing right now?

1:41:53No, I don't want to be a fool.

1:41:55Big Cat:Yeah.

1:41:56PFT Commenter:I got a slightly nerdy basketball question for you and like coaching and how you mentally get these guys ready. So I actually thought one of the biggest moments was the play before the Braylon Mullins three when you run, it was like a double curl for Caraban. And Caraban was one for nine in the game going into that. He was 0 for five on three. when you draw that up because it's great play because it was like perfect yet terris reed being the screener so they can't leave him like it just it worked perfectly but is there any thought in your head like this guy's ice cold i don't know if we want to draw this play because you need the three there or is it like no this guy it doesn't matter he could shoot oh for a hundred he's going to make this shot yeah you know listen at that point you know if maybe if like if solo ball or or Braylon Mullins were like, you know, were having a great night shooting it from three, you know, you definitely would, you know, you would go in that direction.

1:42:54But because it was, you know, kind of like a team-wide struggle kind of shooting it, you know, Demery, you know, Silas Demery, who was playing hurt, who, you know, I think a big thing for us going to Indianapolis is Silas Demery is going to be like the healthiest he's been in a long time for us. So I think that's going to bode well for us in Indy. But, you know, like, you know, AK, you know, Caravan, you know, the guy just had such a magical career. And you're looking at the situation and saying to yourself, you know, like, I don't have a hot hand I could go to. You know, it feels like we need to run something to get a three.

1:43:33We've been kind of exhausting Reid with post touches. And, you know, he was pretty gassed at that point in the game. So it's like, you know, we ran something we call glow mid pin. And, you know, we try to like misdirection it and get a little curl action off the top of the key to kind of get the screeners man helping on that. And, you know, and Tarris was able to set a great, great screen to get AK a good look. But, you know, the guy's a two time national champion, Big East hardware, too. Guy's been playing the NBA for 15 years. the guy to go to at the moment.

1:44:14Big Cat:In the moment, I think we were all yelling at the TV saying, why is so much time ticking off the clock right now? Was that in your thoughts at all? Trying to get a shot off a little bit quicker? That next possession, they hadn't switched anything the whole game. John did a great job coming out of the timeout just switching everything. So, and we didn't handle, now by this time of year, you've seen everything. So hopefully, you know, your team is ready to react to anything that we've seen. But they haven't played it the whole game. So it kind of screwed up the initial action that we were trying to get.

1:44:53We were trying to get Demery downhill or a throwback for a three, go back to Caravan. But the switching screwed us up. But, you know, thankfully Demery was able to like drive it, get to the free throw line. And obviously, you know, missing the first one, you know, the courage to then like make the second one, you know, like because that building got loud and it got tense. Him making that second free throw was huge.

1:45:22PFT Commenter:And the other thing I noticed in you can tell me is wrong if this was not a point of emphasis. But like when you're down that much and you come out in the second half, did you tell the guys like, hey, we got to attack because we got to get them. We got to get to the line as early as possible, because it does feel like when you have a deficit like that, one of the ways to do it is you got to score points when the clock is stopped. And it did feel totally different in the second half where you guys just kept on trying to attack them, attack them to get those fouls, to get to the point where you're in a bonus early enough that it helps you.

1:45:53Yeah. I mean, we really obviously just tried to throw it inside as much as we could. And they had no matchup for Taris. I mean, no one in this tournament's had a matchup for Taris Reid. I mean, they just read me the list of players, the company that he's in through four games production wise. It's like historic level level stuff. But just we it was a coaching mistake by me to start the game. I think we built up their personnel too much to the point where we gave them too much respect and we were playing defense too defensively. They were a team that at times has turned the ball over. And with some of the injury stuff, we needed to apply more pressure on their offensive end and just be more of the aggressor in the game.

1:46:45A lot of times, you know, the officials end up giving calls to a team that is just more assertive, more aggressive. And, you know, we just started the game just being way too respectful.

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1:47:45Big Cat:What's this next week look like for you? Are you putting any last-minute blobs in? Yes. Yeah? Yeah, yeah. You're always looking for wrinkles on top of wrinkles of things that you're running on offense. I mean, you do a quick study of everything that you've run for the last maybe five to eight games. You throw some of that stuff out. You go back to earlier in the year. You run things that people haven't seen since maybe the non-conference. With these guys, we had the matchup with Illinois already, so we got to go back to that and try to figure out, anticipate the adjustments they're going to make.

1:48:32and then you know yeah but definitely try to go into into Indy with some things that you can run to you know to get more threes that you

1:48:42PFT Commenter:can miss yeah yeah exactly it also is interesting because you guys played Illinois earlier this year but it's like a totally different game because of their personnel your personnel do you take anything from that or are you just like hey that was that feels like that game was played in a different season at this point yeah no I think you You know, when you share the court with the, you know, with the team, you get a sense, you know, you get a sense of their personnel and just what their best attributes are. I mean, just having scrimmaged Michigan State in October, you know, I thought it just it was helpful for us to start the game, just understanding what the level of physicality is when you play against a Spartan.

1:49:26I mean, you go up against a Spartan in your life, it's going to be a hard game, you know? So, and I got that Spartan helmet.

1:49:38PFT Commenter:We did, by the way, we apologize because we had Izzo on the show and we did tip him off to you drinking piss before the game to get you pumped up. I hope you're okay with us giving away secrets like that. I heard it because that's why he he I mean, that's probably the only time, you know, usually after a big win, I act like an ass, you know, like and I think that's what really bothers people is like you get a big win. I'll turn to my wife, our crowd, chest bump, wave my arms. And some people don't like that today. But with that game, if you notice, I just kind of solemnly walked down the handshake line because of how much reverence and respect I got for Coach.

1:50:28That's the worst I've felt after a great win because I just love that guy.

1:50:34Big Cat:Yeah. It sounded like he had a lot of respect for you. And I think he believed us when we said that you drink piss. So he actually thinks you might be insane. He might start drinking piss. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he should. I saw a boxer that actually does it. It actually helps you hydrate better. I guess it's like recycling, like the water cycle taking place in your own body. It's evaporation. Yeah, the whole thing. Did you think about bringing your brother in as another set of eyes? Yeah, just for the Duke game. Yeah. I mean, listen, that would have been awesome. You know, me and muzzling or nuzzling with the official, my mom cursing up a storm, my wife grabbing people on the bench, yanking them off the court.

1:51:25And then, you know, add Bob into the into the fall there.

1:51:30Big Cat:Was he proud of you or was he secretly pissed off at you? No, Bob's Bob's riding with me. I mean, listen, Duke, you know, Duke and the Hurleys, obviously it's complicated for me now. And obviously, you know, I'm not beloved there. I'm not sure that I ever, you know, ever was. But Duke changed my brother's life. And, you know, but Bob is, I mean, Bob was a thousand with me. And I'm sure running around, going crazy when we won it. He's a hurley. Because I was saying between how we saw that game end with the head, which we now know was a sign of ultimate affection, and the Marquette game, you might need somebody that's a get-back coach like we see in football whose job is to just stand behind you, hand on your belt.

1:52:23Big Cat:I've got a hold of you. You're not going anywhere without me. And it feels like Bobby would probably be a pretty effective holdback coach. Yeah. And I've actually, you know, I'll pick a coach on staff. I actually, Mike Nardi, you know, former Villanova, you know, standout player and assistant coach, I actually said to him, you know, at halftime because there was a foul discrepancy in the first half of our game yesterday, and I said to him at halftime, like, watch me. You know, like, you know, watch me. I can ill afford to get to have an incident or get thrown out or have another viral situation.

1:53:03So just like stay in my ear, keep me calm. And for the most part, I actually was again until until that the nuzzling.

1:53:17Big Cat:Have you ever seen the movie Coneheads? Yes. That's like the most intimate thing that they do. Yeah. It's just press foreheads against each other. It's actually how they procreate.

1:53:28PFT Commenter:And I also got to give you credit, Coach. You're such a psycho on the sideline, and we actually – some people don't like how much we defend you, but I love it. I think it's great, the great part of the tournament in college sports. That was such a crazy clip to watch that I actually thought it was AI for about 30 minutes this morning. I was like, there's just no way he nuzzled. But it turns out you did. Yeah. And we will defend you.

1:53:52Big Cat:Yeah. No matter what happens, just know that part of my take is a pro Hurley podcast. Pro-nuzzling. Pro-nuzzling, pro-cuddling. Listen, guys aren't allowed to express their emotions anymore. Apparently, it's a bad thing in society. So why don't we back off and actually use this as a teachable moment to say more men should be in touch with their emotions like Coach Hurley. Yes, and have the level of control I have. But you're sports guys. I mean, what do you want? What do you want? You want intensity. You want emotion. You want, you know, competitive fire. You want your coaches and your players looking at the game or looking at it like it's a battle, like it's war, like it's the zero-sum game that it is.

1:54:41I mean, it's kill or be killed this time of year or in every game in college basketball, you know. And, you know, people that have never played sports, you know, I get all these folks that comment on sports and you look at them and I size them up when I meet them in person. And it's like, you're not a sports guy. You didn't grow up playing. But, you know, this is what we've done in society. You know, like the fact that we're not playing dodgeball in gym class and even there should be some type of standardized test. I agree. I agree. What happened to the SAT? Like we've gone so soft on young people that like you don't even have to go through like the pressure and stress of like having to prepare for that test, take that test, have to get some type of a number or dodgeball in gym class.

1:55:37Yeah.

1:55:38PFT Commenter:It should be like the SAT. There's the math section. There's the English section. And then you got to stand there and we got to whip some wiffle balls at your head and see if you can hit a home run in a backyard.

1:55:49Big Cat:Or if you get a bad score on the math section or the English section, have an opportunity to just like get mad and defend it and explain why your grade should be higher and why it's unfair that you got a bad grade. Yeah. You don't think that this is going to make people tougher and more resilient? Yeah. This is life. greater fortitude be prepared to handle the things that come up in life become the ability to compete you know have to respond from failure deal with pressure yeah and i i saw your clip that was that

1:56:19PFT Commenter:went kind of viral the other day and i love the message of like the toughness and just you know it's a tough world out there and that's part of your job is is making sure that your players are equipped for it and i i think that people when we watch we see a guy go crazy on the sideline and And you could tell me this, but like the amount of time you spend with your guys in the course of a season. And this is a theme we had with Coach Izzo where it's like, hey, they might yell at you. They might go crazy. But at the end of the day, all the hours that we spend together and the love that they have for you, that's why you can do these moments.

1:56:54PFT Commenter:That's why you can have these moments where tough love can be the message being sent. Yeah. If you do this job right, you have the impact of somewhat like a dad has on their son. You have the impact of a great uncle or the impact of a coach on your life and what they can model for you, what they can instill in you, the discipline, the levels of accountability. you know the ability to you know be a be a great teammate be you know learn how to communicate with people you know just be able learn how to be a part of a team being able to handle failure success just everything that you go through together and you know everything that you're trying to teach these guys because like you know like college is really the last place that these guys are going to learn anything you know like once they get done with us and they go to the NBA or they go into the professional world, you know, like the New York Knicks aren't teaching you anything to be an NBA player.

1:57:59You either are or you aren't. And when you go into the real world, it's the same thing. You better be equipped to succeed and handle everything. And yeah, I mean, you got two responsibilities here. You know, you got to coach like a maniac because you have to win here at a place like UConn or else it's going to go bad. So, you know, that explains, you know, my approach on game night, why I'm so maniacal, why I'm so relentless, why I coach every possession, why it's life or death to me, because that's what it is on game night. But then you also have that other aspect where you literally become one of the most important person in a young person's life.

1:58:39And I don't take that responsibility lightly.

1:58:43Big Cat:And you've got not only the UConn men's team, the UConn women's team also back in the final four. We said this stat yesterday, I think it's the sixth time in the past 22 years that UConn has had both teams in the Final Four, which is crazy. Have you had a chance to talk to Gino after the win? Always. You know, Gino is one of the first people. He's got a chat with our staff. You know, we're all close with Gino. You know, we run over there and watch practice. And I remember when I first got here, watched their practice, watched our practice. Pretty embarrassing. where we were at compared to them.

1:59:22And they were taller, I think, even than us too, which... It was surprising. Yeah, surprising. But the yeah, he's a. Yeah, he's always the first one in there. Gino is the man. Gino is super supportive. Our teams are like our besties. They share the training room. They spend a lot of time together. I don't know if the relationship here has always been as good as it is between the men's and women's team, but it is now.

1:59:59Big Cat:Yeah, it sounds like, I mean, I know that it used to be hyper-competitive, which is probably good for both teams, but now it's like more collaborative, it sounds like, which continues to be a good thing. And pretty incredible run. And then the other thing was Caraban. So Caraban, I don't know if you know this, but he has the opportunity to do something that has not been done since the 1970s. win three championships while in college. I think, was it the two? Larry's. The two Larry's at UCLA. Twin Larry's. Twin Larry's did it in 1973. Have you talked to him about that? Because it's a pretty special thing that he's, you know, he came back after the two titles and he's had his share of ups and downs over the course of the last couple of years, but he finds himself yet again in the position to do that.

2:00:41Yeah. I mean, we talked about it when he was going through the pre-drafting, and he was really on the fence because he was slated to go somewhere from 25 to 35 in the draft. So he was kind of in a tough spot. Obviously, NIL helps, especially if you could make kind of what you would make if you entered the draft now. So it doesn't become this financial thing. And it was like I think he looked around at the roster that we put together and what we envisioned and said, I think I got a chance to do it. But so, yeah, so I want to come back and go and try to do something that's never been done, do historical things.

2:01:27He's come such a long way, guys. If you would have saw him just as a freshman, just kind of how he presented physically and personality-wise, you would never think he'd get to where he is right now. The way he presented was – it made me think that game night, you know his socks would be yellow you know like his socks would turn yellow yeah down his leg you get yeah i got you yeah yeah he didn't have any swag now he's got the beard he's got the fade you know a good looking guy like the guy but like freshman year was like eyebrows bushy you know nose hair you know like a pale you know like not a got a good haircut He's come a long way.

2:02:14PFT Commenter:Yeah. All right. We got a couple last questions. One was, did you know it was in when Braylon Mons released it? I had a win. So people say you're lying. I've been saying for about a week as the tournament was starting, I've never won on a buzzer beater. I'm just saying it just randomly to different people, probably about eight or ten different people. But when the ball, when they turned it over, I saw Alex throw to him and I saw I was tracking and I had a feeling. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was the perfect shot. Yeah. Hey, Illinois. Stell Blue Coffee's new canned lattes are here and in a store near you.

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2:03:31PFT Commenter:Try the new cans today. Head to our store locator on StellaBlueCoffee.com and sign up to redeem a buy one, get one free offer. You owe me a pair of pants because I came in my pants after the shot. But the real question is, what happened to your pants? You had a towel around your waist when you went into the locker room. Did you also? No. Okay. No, I did not. What happened to your pants? I just kept them in the coach's locker room. So then when they were done with the water celebration, I was able to then put on my sweaty underwear, my swampy dragons. It's because it's not like they were completely dry.

2:04:18They just had avoided the water shower. Yeah, because that's your lucky underwear. Yeah, so the lucky dragon. So when I actually went back in, I put the socks on that were sweaty, the underwear that was sweaty and then the protected blue suit that again is it's 17 and one right now or 18 and one that suit yeah yeah socks suits socks underwear and shoes or they're literally 18 and one i think in the tournament it's a yeah it's uh it's 18 and one and uh the shoes too the shoes have like no soul left like the shoes are there's nothing basically left on the bottom of them like a ballet slipper do you do a uh the same pre-game meal too yeah and what screwed me up a little bit was good was uh lent you know friday lent um no meat yeah yeah you know so that kind of dealing with god dealing with the spiritual side what you know So if I had a pork chop on a Saturday and we won, and the night before a game I can't have what I was normally having, Lent was kind of God over my superstitions.

2:05:35Big Cat:Yeah, and then this weekend, do you have a place picked out for Mass on Sunday? Well, yeah, I've got to go on Easter. So we'll find a place there. My wife went to a Palm Sunday service. We couldn't get there because it was our shoot-around time, but she came home and gave me the lucky palm, which I think another person in the church gave her after Mass and said, this is going to be like your lucky palm. She made it into a cross and gave it to me. That's pretty special. Yeah, that is. You got to pick out a good church for Easter Sunday. Yeah, that's going to be important. Yeah, I got to find one.

2:06:24I'm sure they got some good ones in Indianapolis.

2:06:26PFT Commenter:Yeah. Well, Coach, you're the best. We love having you on. And best of luck in Indianapolis. If things go well, we'll have you back on in a week and a half. And it's just always fun to watch. You make sports fun. So we appreciate it so much. And thank you, thank you for beating Duke. I appreciate it. It was – I barely slept last night. I watched every highlight a thousand times. so I appreciate it.

2:06:47Big Cat:It was a good moment for America. Yeah. You know, like, we've been at each other's throats. Everybody hates each other. There's a lot of, you know, constant bickering, but it was great to see the nation unite around one thing we can all believe in. Yeah. That's Duke losing in the NCAA tournament. And it was the best possible way that it could happen. It was so good. And to have you be the guy that did it, it was perfect. So thank you.

2:07:09PFT Commenter:If you need any podcast recommendations, I listened to all the Duke fan podcasts this morning, so I have them all. I must have put people in a tough spot because obviously a lot of people want to root against Duke because of their, you know, because of what they've been able to do. But then you also have the people that hate you. Yeah. So it's just that two worlds collided yesterday and look what happened. For us, it was great.

2:07:33Big Cat:And there was, oh man. Cinema theater. Yeah. No, it was. It was perfect. Did you see the Duke student broadcast where they tried to get a technical foul called on your bench for running onto the court? Yeah. Or the people that were calling for a technical foul on me. Like somebody.

2:07:49PFT Commenter:Those are people who've never seen a nuzzle before. Come on. Grow up.

2:07:56PFT Commenter:All right, coach. Best of luck. All right, boys. That interview with Danny Hurley was brought to you by WhatNot. We're trying to pull rookie QBs from the GOAT 2024 class, the greatest QB class of all time. Some are saying each of us picked our guy. I've got Drake May, and we're just going all in to hit these cards. Sent to us by sellers on WhatNot, the live shopping app. At the end of the month, we're going to be giving away everything we pulled to celebrate the biggest card show on earth, the WhatNot card show, which goes from April 30th to May 3rd. Let's rip some packs, boys. Okay, who's going first?

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2:08:31PFT Commenter:We're all going at the same time. I love that. All right. Why don't you tell us to take the plastic off? We have to keep the plastic on to show that it's real. I know, but it's... How do I take the plastic off?

2:08:42Big Cat:I'm biting it. Yeah, I'm going to bite too.

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2:08:59Big Cat:I got a high-definition video game projector. I'm going to try doing the flight sim on the wall. That's awesome. Yeah, turn your living room. This is the hardest thing ever to open.

2:09:09PFT Commenter:Why did you do this? I got some Yu-Gi-Oh cards, and I got a hat. I was watching a guy make custom hats yesterday for, like, way too long. Custom hats? Yeah. And you just, I won the auction, and he was, like, pointing around. He said, which hat do you want? Ooh, okay.

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2:09:43Big Cat:Billy Sims. Why are you disrespecting the career of Billy Sims? These are sick cards. Played in 60 games. Okay. 42 touchdowns. I don't think we have to do stats for each guy. But Hank's disrespectful. Hank was disrespectful. I got Joel Embiid. How many games did you play in that one year? This is football. I got an autographed Edron Cooper. Ooh. Autographed Chris Braswell. So the camera. Chris Braswell.

2:10:12PFT Commenter:Can I just go through them and just tell you if I have Tim Williams? Ooh, I got Charles Tillman, big hat. Oh, Brian Westbrook there. That's big. That's pretty cool.

2:10:21Big Cat:Tavondre Sweat.

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2:11:14Big Cat:No. Is that April Fool's?

2:11:16PFT Commenter:No.

2:11:17Big Cat:Are you serious?

2:11:18PFT Commenter:I swear. You got a Jaden Daniels?

2:11:20Big Cat:I think so. That's awesome. Are you giving that to me? Yeah, I'm giving that to you. Thank you, Big Cat. What? I would have liked that.

2:11:27PFT Commenter:No.

2:11:27Big Cat:Hank, you want it? You want my Jaden Daniels card? Yeah.

2:11:30PFT Commenter:Thank me. Why would you take his Jaden Daniels card?

2:11:32Big Cat:I'll give it to you. Thanks, Hank. You're welcome. That means a lot. I can't believe Hank gave me his autograph, Jane Daniels. I did not get a drink, man. I got an Xavier Worthy. That's pretty cool. It's very cool.

2:11:44PFT Commenter:Yeah. Thanks, big cat. It's very cool. Yeah. Download WhatNot today and get free shipping on your first order. That's W-H-A-T-N-O-T. Download now to start browsing deals and get involved with WhatNot. Okay, Hank. Guys on Chicks time. Guys on Chicks. un momento gaze on cheeks AWL here actually should I I don't know if I should read this one someone DM'd it to me it made me laugh I don't know if it's true or not so if it's not true I apologize nine time AWL talked with big cat on the yak my girlfriend just informed me that she was finger blasted by Billy strings before he was famous rattled

2:12:28Big Cat:made me laugh I mean, good for her. Lucky girl. There's one guy. He does have amazing. He's a finger picker. That's what he does. Good for. Just don't do it. The man knows his way. Just have sex. Don't.

2:12:41PFT Commenter:Yeah. Don't try to do anything else. Also, how does that conversation get brought up? Well, maybe he was like, I like Billy Strings. And she's like, tough. Imagine if he was watching Billy Strings in his living room. And it was like zoomed in on him just ripping a song. And she's like, oh, I know those fingers.

2:12:57Big Cat:Yeah. I'd recognize those anywhere. he's probably like i really like you in that g-string and she's like you know who else is good at playing with g-strings yeah yeah uh awl here was a lot of platonic guy friends when guys are talking was that was that a sound of sympathy for the platonic guy friends no or just like a chick that has guy friends just probably false uh when guys are talking with their platonic girlfriends why this is why must y 'all always make sexual into innuendos when the topic is not sexual nor would there ever be anything sexual between us just think in your head so you don't have to end up screenshot the girls group with a gross emoji you're not they're not platonic and you're also like welcome to having guy friends yeah like that you're not a real

2:13:48PFT Commenter:girl with guy friends i'm sorry but also if they're making a bunch of sexual innuendos they

2:13:52Big Cat:probably want to bang and it's also that's what guys do yeah they're testing the waters yeah and they're around you and they're like hey maybe if she laughs at my joke about penises that means

2:14:02PFT Commenter:that she wants to see mine guys talk like this that's how we talk right zach some guys talking yeah go guys chatting speaking of guys they're speaking of zach apologies hey guys he's a guy i find myself being deeply attracted to zach yeah how can i fix this well first of all take a number

2:14:21Big Cat:and get in line. How can you fix this? You can't until you've had them. You need to have them.

2:14:28PFT Commenter:You're just going to be thinking about them until you do. Zach, what are we doing? Come on, let's get out there. You're a good-looking dude. That's very nice of you to say, Big Guy. I appreciate that. Yeah. Same to you. This is a handsome pod. No, but let's get out there. We got any prospects? Get out there? I'm not prospectless. I'd say I'm out there.

2:14:50Big Cat:Okay, good. Yeah. You know what?

2:14:52PFT Commenter:If you're happy, I'm happy. I don't care.

2:14:54Big Cat:Zach, you know how we discussed maybe getting you out of the apartment for like 30 minutes a week? You want me to double down? I can go an hour. I'd like to see you. So slow down, buddy. Let's not get crazy. Maybe. What about one date a month? One date calendar month? For the summertime. I can do that for you guys. Maybe start in April? I'd love to make new friends. I can do that. Okay. One date a month.

2:15:18PFT Commenter:By the way, the friends, we got all fun friends. Remember that.

2:15:22Big Cat:I've had a lot of people reaching out. I know. I can't take someone that's cold calling me as a friend. It has to be a natural organic friendship.

2:15:30PFT Commenter:Yeah, the whole point is it has to be a friend that does not listen to the podcast. I have my eyes on a friend. I'm just nervous about broaching the subject.

2:15:40Big Cat:Does he know that you're into him? No. Is that like a secret crush? It's easy for me.

2:15:46PFT Commenter:He's the guy at the gas station around the corner. and I just I want to just be like hey dude can we be friends

2:15:52Big Cat:wait that works at the gas station yeah

2:15:53PFT Commenter:I don't think he speaks English

2:15:55Big Cat:we'll get through that I'll tell you what driving the El Camino in the summer it's very easy to meet old dads yeah they're gonna be coming up to me

2:16:03PFT Commenter:yeah you'll get a friend

2:16:04Big Cat:yeah hey boys love the show I've been a listener for seven years you guys are the best my husband travels for work and only stays at hotels with hot tubs he's a big hot tub guy he opted out of going into a hot tub that already had three dudes in it my question for you guys is how many guys is too many guys in the hot tub does it make a difference if you're friends family or what's what if it's a stranger situation would love to hear your thoughts thanks go pats friends unlimited everyone get in the tub depends how big the hot tub is yeah

2:16:33PFT Commenter:but you can just see if you're like on a passion but everyone get in the tub fuck it uh if you're in one of those tubs if you're in like a vacation where you walk by the tub i think you just needed a specific space that you can sit that you feel it out and i also think three might be too many

2:16:50Big Cat:to join if it's two guys and they know each other then you can join if it's three guys even and they're all friends having conversation you can slink in as like the random fourth across the way from right but if there's like three already random guys that are in there sitting in silence that to me feels like just keep walking i don't want to be the fourth random guy

2:17:11PFT Commenter:Or if you're at the Four Seasons in LA and there's a couple trying to enjoy a really nice romantic night and it's you, it's me, PFT, and Hank. You get in and then you have a big, loud argument and try to dunk each other. That did happen.

2:17:26Big Cat:Yeah, you start talking about what type of sporting equipment you would want in your house if you had all the money in the world.

2:17:33PFT Commenter:We give them a free podcast.

2:17:35Big Cat:Yeah. Now, you can also talk about Joel Embiid and drive them out of the hot tub. Can't make the club in the tub. Joel Embiid's probably the other guy that's in the tub. Yeah. Getting healthy. Okay. All right. Last one. What's up, Big Cat PFT and Southpaw Hank with the Masters right around the corner? I've had this thought for a while now and just had to get it to you guys.

2:17:58PFT Commenter:Let's go. Every golf course should have the 18th hole be a short par five. For the casual shitty golfer, it gives them the life and hope that they enjoy the round if they can make it on and two and have an eagle birdie chance. I love this. So they keep going out to play. For the pro tour, it just adds to the drama of a final group on Sunday that you can be two shots back at the leader and have a chance to eagle. I love this. We'd love to hear your guys' thoughts.

2:18:20Big Cat:It's a very, very good idea. Incredible idea. When I design a golf course, it's going to have this. Like a 225-yard par 5. It would be incredible to have. That's too short.

2:18:29PFT Commenter:Why?

2:18:30Big Cat:That's the whole point. But you know what? It's like 400 yards. No, no, no. 225. In my entire career playing golf, which has been about two. That was a super short par five. It's been about two years playing golf. Every single time I've asked, is this a par four? What was that? The other person has said. Two years. Like two and a half years. Yeah.

2:18:52PFT Commenter:Pretty much. What's the issue here?

2:18:57Big Cat:Sorry, continue. He's been playing for longer or less? He thinks I've been playing for longer. Seriously, two and a half years. As a pro, only less than a year. Yeah, true. True. Yeah, less imputational. True. But you know what I'm saying, Hank? How many times have I asked you, is this a par four? Yeah. And the answer's always, yes, it is. I'm always hoping that it's a par five. I've never once been right, asking, is this a par four or par five? I would like very much for that last hole to be the one that I'm right at. Love this idea. 430-yard par four. Everybody's on in two for the most part.

2:19:31PFT Commenter:Or what about like a 170-yard par four? Yeah. That would work too.

2:19:37Big Cat:That would work too.

2:19:38PFT Commenter:Yeah.

2:19:39Big Cat:Everyone drives the green. Yeah.

2:19:41PFT Commenter:Okay. Good show, boys.

2:19:44Big Cat:Numbers. 70. 56. 21.

2:19:51PFT Commenter:I'm going to go three. I'm going to go four. I got injured on the corner of that. 19. I'm going to go 23. Oh, you got injured? Kind of like Joel Embiid. 69. Yeah, Joel Embiid does get injured. 6 '7". A lot of guys. That's why they made the rule. Oh, Jacob. Where'd Jacob say? 6 '7". That goes on Jacob.

2:20:16PFT Commenter:That's it.

2:20:30Oh, my God.

2:20:32PFT Commenter:81. 81.

2:20:35Big Cat:Anyone?

2:20:35PFT Commenter:Anyone?

2:20:35Big Cat:Anyone? 81. Anyone say 81? Let's do one more. Somebody picked 81 last time?

2:20:40PFT Commenter:Did someone pick 81 last time? No. All right. 23, same numbers. Last one. Three. Good day.

2:20:58PFT Commenter:85. 85. 85.

2:21:02Big Cat:Love you guys. Happy birthday to Hank's brother.

2:21:05PFT Commenter:Love that.

2:21:06Big Cat:Also, happy birthday to Sean Taylor, the best football player, my favorite football player of all time in Hank's brother. Kind of sad that I wished Hank's brother a happy birthday before he did, but that's kind of how it goes. I asked you to wish my birthday happy birthday. No, I actually had him on my list already. Oh, nice. Yeah. Happy birthday, Hannah Montoya and Susan Boyle.

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